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From schoedel@alaska.net Mon Jul  1 10:20:13 PDT 1996
Article: 24192 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: WHAT IS YOUR GOD--MN PROBLEM?
Date: 25 Jun 1996 23:06:05 GMT
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daryl hoksch  wrote:
>Hi, Yes I am white and I've got a question for you.  WHAT IS WRONG WITH 
>YOU GODDAMN BIGOTS?  Does your life suck so bad that you have to resort 
>to this?  You know, I say that you guys are the biggest wimps and cowards 
>that I have ever seen.  I don't think even one of you would dare to say 
>this stuff anywhere but on the Internet.  I've got an idea.  Why don't 
>you go out in public some day and start saying this stuff.  You'd 
>probably get laughed off the street.  You have NO GUTS!  Why don't you 
>guys just give up?  You're fighting a losing battle.  No matter how hard 
>you try, in the end we'll all have to learn to get along and accept each 
>other regardless of the color of our skin.  
>
>Quit living in the past!  This is the '90s, and this is AMERICA.  
>Remember, this is the country that practically begged Colin Powell (a 
>black man) to run for president.  This is the country that wants 
>INTEGRATION, not segregation.  Just open your minds people.  Quit 
>repeating what you've always been taught and start thinking for 
>yourselves.  If you don't like the way this country is run then why don't 
>YOU get out.
>
>Michelle
>

Gee, with such an intelligent and rational statement of your position,
I would expect a huge flood of e-mail from bigots now interested in
adopting your cheery, loving, tolerant point of view.

Country Ron




From schoedel@alaska.net Mon Jul  1 10:20:14 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: How to Spot a Jew (http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel/jewry/index.html)
Date: 26 Jun 1996 13:36:08 GMT
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slking@husc7.harvard.edu (Stewart King) wrote:
>Ronald C. Schoedel (schoedel@alaska.net) wrote:
>: slking@course2.harvard.edu (Stewart King) wrote:
>
>: >Just look at Jabba the Hutt.
>
>: I particularly like their new Chicken pizzas.
>
>Okay, that was pretty lame.  So was mine.  So much for white nationalism 
>as comedy material.  

Quite the truth, Dave.

>Let's get some Jews telling some jokes, see where we 
>can go with that.


Somebody here said I pretend like I'm a Jew, so can I be included?

Rev Ron a/k/a Country Ron




From schoedel@alaska.net Mon Jul  1 12:53:24 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: Go Pat Go
Date: 26 Jun 1996 21:46:23 GMT
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:
>"Ronald C. Schoedel"  wrote:
>
>>The CORRECT Buchanan Website is http://www. ...

>>Rev. Ron a/k/a Country Ron

Mathis FORGES AGAIN!!!  Your ISP has been alerted of your
forgery, Mathis.  naughty naughty...

Country Ron




From schoedel@alaska.net Mon Jul  1 12:58:33 PDT 1996
Article: 34700 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: A couple humourous items
Date: 26 Jun 1996 13:33:20 GMT
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atticus@mindspring.com (Andy Walton) wrote:

>The same thing happened about 10 years ago, when the same product with
>similar packaging was introduced in the United States. Your point?


Walton,

There was no point.  They were two somewhat humourous stories I came
across, and everyone needs a good laugh every now and then, so I 
posted them for the enjoyment of all.

The Kinder Gentler Rev. Ron a/k/a Country Ron




From schoedel@alaska.net Mon Jul  1 12:58:34 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: I WANT TO HAVE LOTS OF WHITE CHILDREN
Date: 26 Jun 1996 13:38:09 GMT
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nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) wrote:
>Any germanic females willing to assist in this project email me
>
>blonde/blue/athletic preferred
>
>THANKS!!!!


Um, I don't want to help you in that way, but I will kindly suggest
you like actually, ya know, try to meet females in person, by ya know,
going places and doing things, rather than thru the impersonal face-
less usenet, where no female who saw your post would know a single
thing about you.

Better luck next time, though.

Country Ron




From schoedel@alaska.net Tue Jul  2 06:56:07 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism,alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: SelfIMPORTANT STATEMENT FROM REV. RON, also can be found at http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel/movement.html
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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>Besides, the "Reverend" clearly admits that his employers would be interested, 
>by his blatant omission of the link to his website.  


Joel, here's a deal for you: provide a link from *your* webpage to my 
archive of your bestiality posts, and then we can talk.  

What's the matter, afraid your "fans" and others interested in your
books might think twice when they see the filth you have posted, about
"dog-f--king"?

Put up or shut up.

Country Ron



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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism,alt.skinheads
Subject: Joel, why don't YOU link to YOUR filth from YOUR webpage, eh?
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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>Besides, the "Reverend" clearly admits that his employers would be interested, 
>by his blatant omission of the link to his website.  


Joel, here's a deal for you: provide a link from *your* webpage to my 
archive of your bestiality posts, and then we can talk.  

What's the matter, afraid your "fans" and others interested in your
books might think twice when they see the filth you have posted, about
"dog-f--king"?

Put up or shut up.

Country Ron



From schoedel@alaska.net Tue Jul  2 07:22:56 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Re: The "best" of kinky Joel Rosenberg
Date: 1 Jul 1996 20:35:56 GMT
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olk@login.dknet.dk (Ole Kreiberg) wrote:
>
>This is one of crackpot Joel Rosenbergs deranged e-mails sent to and once 
>posted by Ron Schoedel. I wonder what Joel's employer would think about his 
>sanity after reading this:


I'll go a step further.  Not only does Joel improperly mock another
on this newsgroup who is happily married with 2 kids by making perverted
references to masturbation, Joel also has a fascination with beastial-
ity.  Nevermind he made the remarks about moi, who was at the time 
happily engaged to be married, and who has no interest in any form of
perversion whatsoever.  It is always Joel, our wonderful kind-hearted
Jewish friend who makes references to bathroom functions, beastiality
and masturbation.  I say papa Freud would have a big old time with
Joel...perhaps in more ways than one.

So, those of you interested in seeing just how perverse this man can be,
can link to http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel/pervert.txt

There you will find an almost complete collection of Joel's perverse
postings.  One has to wonder if Joel will provide a link to his posts
>from  HIS website.

Why not Joel???

Country Ron



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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
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Subject: Re: The "best" of kinky Joel Rosenberg
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olk@login.dknet.dk (Ole Kreiberg) wrote:
>
>This is one of crackpot Joel Rosenbergs deranged e-mails sent to and once 
>posted by Ron Schoedel. I wonder what Joel's employer would think about his 
>sanity after reading this:


I'll go a step further.  Not only does Joel improperly mock another
on this newsgroup who is happily married with 2 kids by making perverted
references to masturbation, Joel also has a fascination with beastial-
ity.  Nevermind he made the remarks about moi, who was at the time 
happily engaged to be married, and who has no interest in any form of
perversion whatsoever.  It is always Joel, our wonderful kind-hearted
Jewish friend who makes references to bathroom functions, beastiality
and masturbation.  I say papa Freud would have a big old time with
Joel...perhaps in more ways than one.

So, those of you interested in seeing just how perverse this man can be,
can link to http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel/pervert.txt

There you will find an almost complete collection of Joel's perverse
postings.  One has to wonder if Joel will provide a link to his posts
>from  HIS website.

Why not Joel???

Country Ron



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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Rosenburger: Sick Old Bastard
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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>(And, again to correct Ole "The Stopped Clock" Kreiberg:  the quote wasn't 
>email to the "Reverend" Ron.  It was publicly posted to the newsgroup, and I'm 
>perfectly pleased to see it posted again.)  


You are a sick old pervert, Joel.  Would you like for those precious little
daughters of yours to see what their daddy writes in his spare time?  Only a
really sick old bastard would, something tells me Joel you would not want anyone
who knows you and respects you to see your filth, which you post on here, hoping
that only a few computer geeks see what you are really about.

Tell me Joel, when you put your little girls to bed, do you read them stories
about dog-f--king, excrement and masturbation; all of which you have shown a 
special love for here?

It's one thing to say something sickening, it's another thing to be proud of it
Joel.  

Country Ron




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Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
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janellco@nyc.pipeline.com(janellco) wrote:

> Do tell the station, day and time, ...  or can the broadcast only be heard
>
>  with an official  Christian Identity coat hanger antenna and decoder
>ring? 


Nope, once again I have found my way onto the airwaves of NW Ohio, this
time on two stations covering a total of 27 counties, with an approx.
audience of 20,000.

Come to Toledo and find out for yourself where I work.  

Sorry, but the day I disclose my current job to you losers is when you
disclose your places of employment to me.  I am still waiting for McOyVay
to refute that he works at a gas station for a living.  YOU people are
all ashamed of your careers, thus have no business asking about mine.

Sorry charlie.

Country Ron



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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white
Subject: Rosenburger: Sick Old Bastard
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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>(And, again to correct Ole "The Stopped Clock" Kreiberg:  the quote wasn't 
>email to the "Reverend" Ron.  It was publicly posted to the newsgroup, and I'm 
>perfectly pleased to see it posted again.)  


You are a sick old pervert, Joel.  Would you like for those precious little
daughters of yours to see what their daddy writes in his spare time?  Only a
really sick old bastard would, something tells me Joel you would not want anyone
who knows you and respects you to see your filth, which you post on here, hoping
that only a few computer geeks see what you are really about.

Tell me Joel, when you put your little girls to bed, do you read them stories
about dog-f--king, excrement and masturbation; all of which you have shown a 
special love for here?

It's one thing to say something sickening, it's another thing to be proud of it
Joel.  

Country Ron




From Schoedel@alaska.Net Tue Jul  2 17:46:18 PDT 1996
Article: 34863 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: Schoedel@alaska.Net (Schoedel@alaska.Net)
Date: 28 Jun 96 17:39:00 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT STATEMENT FROM REV. RON, also can be found at
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT STATEMENT FROM REV. RON, also can be found at
http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel/movement.html
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rich@c2.org (Rich Graves) wrote:

>Thanks, sweetie.

Shore thang hun.

>By the way, I notice a disjunction between your "CIO" website,
>http://www.alaska.net/~schoedel/home.html, and your "please, please hire
>me" web site, http://www.cris.com/~cbc/resume.shtml. 

Because they are totally non-associated.  Just as I do not put my church
name on work applications. Discrimination in hiring because of
religious preference is illegal; no one who wants to hire me needs to know
my religion, and I don't care about theirs.

>Your resume and your "personal story" also tell sharply contrasting
>stories about why you went to and then left Alaska. I've heard some other
>stories about that, too. Could you maybe clear that up?

My resume says the FIRST station i went to in Alaska I got laid off from.
That is correct.  That happened 31 March 1996.  I remained in Alaska at
two other stations, until I left after my fianc#e and I split.

Hmmm...let's see.  I remained in Alaska thru 4 June.  I left the first station
on 31 March.  DUH!!!  No conflict there.

Why do you care anyhoo?  

Country Ron


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From schoedel@alaska.net Wed Jul  3 07:38:11 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism,alt.skinheads
Subject: Re: Joel, why don't YOU link to YOUR filth from YOUR webpage, eh?
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libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) wrote:

>Ron, I thought you were supposed to be undergoing a period of contrition
>just now.  Shouldn't you be, y'know, remorseful and stuff?

Toward a sick old bastard who has nothing better to do than write
about beastiality, masturbation and bathroom function?  Nah, the pervert
needs to be shown for what he is.  A Perverted fat old slob.  (Don't
believe me, check his picture)

Country Ron



From Schoedel_alaska_Net@gifl.com Wed Jul  3 20:06:51 PDT 1996
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Date: 29 Jun 96 23:41:00 
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Subject: Re: Public Apology from Rev. Ron

joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:
>In article <4r2jt3$lva@tribune.concentric.net> "Ronald C. Schoedel"
 writes:
>
>There's an amazing coincidence to report.  
>
>Ron Schoedel finds himself alone and jobless

BZZZZZT.   Alone, yes.  Jobless, no.  Sorry Joel.  Wrong again


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From rschoedel@aol.com Wed Jul  3 22:43:02 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.skinheads,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: No kidding, honest:  anybody know where Milton "Mortie" Kleim is?
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rich@c2.org (Rich Graves) wrote:
>joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) writes:
>>
>>Pinky swear:  got some email from a reporter for a major newspaper who's 
>>trying to find Kleim, and apparently his last email address is no longer 
>>working.

Spoke with Milton today, he will no longer have e-mail access as of tonight.
Sorry.

>I could pass on a message, but I seriously doubt he wants to talk to the
>press. Believe it or not, he wasn't lying when he said he was out, and
>wanted to be left alone. 
>
>Personally, I don't think Ron was, either, until you trolled him back.

That would be correct, Rich.  One will note that the substance of all my
recent posts has been nothing but defending myself against lies and
slander from sick old bastards with two much time on their hands.

>In general, I think Milton deserves a lot of things, but at least today,
>utter disrespect isn't one of them.

I will second that.

Country Ron




From schoedel@alaska.net Wed Jul  3 23:07:17 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Re: Direct answers from McOyVay? Fat chance
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:
>In article <4ra896$5nj@tribune.concentric.net>, 
>"Ronald C. Schoedel"  wrote:
>
>>disclose your places of employment to me.  I am still waiting for McOyVay
>>to refute that he works at a gas station for a living.  YOU people are
>>all ashamed of your careers, thus have no business asking about mine.
>
>http:// * * *

Why don't you just answer the damned question, without referring me to
some crap URL that takes two minutes to get thru to?  Hiding something, 
eh?

Country Ron



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Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism,alt.skinheads
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Friends and others:

Effective 23:10 EDT, 3 July 1996, the portion of the Christian Identity
Online website known as "World Jewry Exposed" has been dismantled and
removed from our website.  

This is the latest step in my continual re-evaluation of my efforts and
my materials.  If World Jewry Exposed has caused any harm in any way,
may Yahweh Almighty forgive me.

Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel
a/k/a Country Ron




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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism
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Friends and others:

Now removed from the CIO website:

	"World Jewry Exposed" -- gone.
	Revisionist History material -- gone
	Material pertaining to National socialism -- gone

Changes made  as of 23:10 EDT, 3 July 1996.

Best regards,

Rev. Ronald C. Schoedel




From schoedel@alaska.net Thu Jul  4 08:21:02 PDT 1996
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Tsk, tsk, spammage again, Rosenburg?  Let's stay on topic in the NG's 
boy!




From rschoedel@aol.com Thu Jul  4 08:26:02 PDT 1996
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pristine@news.hk.super.net (Mr Richard Ethan Latker) wrote:
>I don't think so. I don't think you've given Ron half a chance to pull
>his shit together. He admitted publicly that he was trying to grow out of
>mistakes, and took a bunch of flack from his old white-power buddies in
>the process. 

Certainly I did.  You may be interested in knowing that I too am now a
race traitor (I'll take one Pakistani for two Yupik Eskimoes, please),
and other things.  Or so the W-P folks say.  Oh well, que sera sera,
whatever will be will be.

>Yes, he still has a bunch of anti-semitic crapola on his
>website -- call him on it. Give him a chance to *really* repudiate it. 
>Reason with him. He's only 20 or something, for Chrissake. 

Correct, I'm 20.  But I guess I don't deserve a chance.  Everyone knows
that we all have the ability to change on a dime, right?  Or maybe some
people like Mr. Latker knows that change is a process.

>If it becomes
>clear after a couple of weeks that he's insincere, *then* nail his ass to the
>wall. *Then* call him a dog-fucker, if you relly think that's an effective
>way to struggle against hate and intolerance. 

I've said it before, I will say it again.  I do not have any hatred for
anybody based on race.  If ever such feelings did exist in any capacity
within me, they certainly do not anymore.

>But I don't you've greeted
>his attempts at reformation with the compassion they deserve. 

Give Joel a chance! :-)  After all, if you had been accustomed to dog-
fucking and speaking of it for eight months, you might have a hard time
sewaring off it, as our buddy Joel evidently has. 

> (snip) But I have a feeling that "Revrend Ron" is looking
>for a way out of the sewer he's found himself in. 

Um, yes, that would be a correct assessment of the situation, Richard.

>You could at least provide a perfunctory measure of support (or at 
>least refrain from attacking him) for a reasonable period, at least until 
>doubts as to his sincerity (which I don't discount) are definitively confirmed. 

True, but that would require Joel to actually (GASP!) apologise and admit
error.  Jew or not, that makes no difference.  Joel is just a really sick old
bastard, with a hell of a big ego.  That's what it boils down to.

Country Ron




From schoedel@alaska.net Thu Jul  4 11:53:25 PDT 1996
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libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) wrote:

>On the off chance that there's the slightest outside possibility that
>Ron is sincere, here, I recommending we give him the benefit of the
>doubt.  Not that we invite him over for martinis, or let him marry 
>our sisters, or any of those things--just that we lay off him until
>the dust settles.  He may very well be trying to save his professional
>ass, but people do have changes of heart--why not accept (in not the
>likelyhood) at least the possibility?


Bill,

I can definitely see some people looking at this as a way of trying to
save my professional ass.  But here's the thing:  my professional ass
has been successful already, all the while I was involved in this stuff.
I do not worry about my career going down the tubes, for it is now and
will continue to be successful, apart from anything I may have done or
said in the past.

Unless maybe I tried to run for president or something, but I do not
have any political aspirations.  My real sincere honest goals have
already been stated for all to see.

I do not particularly need the approval of anyone here, or seek it.  I
thought I would leave the ng's last week or whenever, but decided it
was worth it to stick around, if nothing else, for the purpose of
proving myself.  My recent dismantling and blowing up of over half
my website should be some indicator.  And no, the material is not still
there on a hidden link.  It is gone.  Ka-put.  History.

Country Ron




From schoedel@alaska.net Thu Jul  4 11:53:25 PDT 1996
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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>Yes, it's clear you're spending part of this evening trying to clean up your 
>image, and that's perhaps a wise tactical move on your part.   
>
>(I *strongly* suspect that your entire website has long since been downloaded 
>elsewhere to make a record of it -- thereby preventing you from effectively 
>denying what was there.)  

Who's going to deny ti was there?  Are you kidding?  At one time I was proud of
that.  No denying it.  Just changing and making ammends for it.

>From your own site, what you refer to -- in your own, self-damning words as -- 
>"more insightful quotes."
>
>Begin Schoedel's chosen quotes:


Joel or others:

Please provide me with the file name which includes those quotes.  I may well
have missed a file or two.  It's tough to keep track of a website that had five
hundred-or so files and what every one of those has said.


Country Ron




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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

>Well, I judge his reality by his web page - the last time I
>looked, a day or two back, it was the same antisemitic,
>hateful content that had always been there. The Protocols were
>still there, via BeWISE' Identity site... 

No longer!  All five whopping megs of WORLD JEWRY EXPOSED have
been dismantled and trashed.  All revisionist historical
materials on CIO have been dumped.  All National-socialist
materials have been dropped.  All this as of yesterday night.


>When Mr. Schoedel retracts - specifically and without
>reservation - the lies he has told about me

Without posting some stupid long thing that no one has any
desire to read, summarise these lies I have told about you.
Do so in a civil manner, as though you were a sane rational
person, trying to carry on a sane rational conversation, and
I will see what I might have need to retract.

>and when he repudiates his anti-Jewish agenda

I did this simply by leaving the white power junk behind
me.

>_then_ I will believe he is
>trying to dig his way out of a rather sticky wicket. Until
>then, I shall maintain a very heavy dose of skepticism.
>Perhaps, like David Duke, Mr. Schoedel is trying to clean up
>his image. We shall see.

Well, the difference being Dave Duke is involved in politics.
I no longer am.  This has nothing to do with me advancing in
the political realm.  It has everything to do with settling
down and enjoying a quiet, more private life.

Country Ron




From schoedel@alaska.net Fri Jul  5 07:00:08 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
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Subject: CIO GONE
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jeannek@rio.com (Jeanne Kowalewski) wrote:

>*            Wouldn't the first step in demonstrating your 'repentence'
>* be to pull down immediately your theoretical anti-Catholic web site?
>* I haven't visited Ron's christian lack of identity garbage dump lately,
>* but after reading this ng for the last few days many have stated it's
>* still there.  That hardly smacks of repentence to me.  Though if it is
>* gone, I for one will at least say that is a good first step. 
>* 
>*                                             Chuck 
>
>Of course, you are both right. You also have the maturity to know a lot of
>things that Ron is still trying to learn. As some of my friends in
>recovery say, "Get their butts in the chair and their brains will follow."
>Another appropriate quote might be "Do not despise small beginnings."


CIO has been permanently disbanded and dismantled.  it is no more.  In it's
entirety.


Country Ron




From schoedel@alaska.net Fri Jul  5 07:07:44 PDT 1996
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
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Subject: Re: Rev. Ron - same old racist or ?
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Joel:

My calling McVay a "draft dodger" is not in the least bit
different than you calling me a "dog-fucker".  They're both just FLAMES.
Ya know, designed to piss people off and make them look bad, without
any substantiation?  Get over it.

Country Ron




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CIO has entered the never never land of websites that are no more.  This
is a permanent move, do not look for CIO to come back online anytime in
the future.  My website will now be devoted to other things, but contro-
versial religious and political things I am done with.

Country Ron




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Date: 02 Jul 96 00:24:00 
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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Subject: Re: Public Apology from Rev. Ron

janellco@nyc.pipeline.com(janellco) wrote:

> Do tell the station, day and time, ...  or can the broadcast only be heard
>
>  with an official  Christian Identity coat hanger antenna and decoder
>ring? 


Nope, once again I have found my way onto the airwaves of NW Ohio, this
time on two stations covering a total of 27 counties, with an approx.
audience of 20,000.

Come to Toledo and find out for yourself where I work.  

Sorry, but the day I disclose my current job to you losers is when you
disclose your places of employment to me.  I am still waiting for McOyVay
to refute that he works at a gas station for a living.  YOU people are
all ashamed of your careers, thus have no business asking about mine.

Sorry charlie.

Country Ron

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From rschoedel@aol.com Fri Jul  5 15:28:37 PDT 1996
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From: rschoedel@aol.com (RSchoedel)
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Joel Rosenburg so candidly (and face-savingly) admits his error,

>Well, now we know that I was apparently wrong about Schoedel still being
out 
>of work.  

and goes on to say,

>(Anybody who knows care to confirm or deny that he works for WJYM radio?)

I have been off the payroll of WJYM Radio since December 1995, and have
not worked
for them since.

Country Ron


From rschoedel@aol.com Fri Jul  5 15:28:38 PDT 1996
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From: rschoedel@aol.com (RSchoedel)
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Subject: Re: Foregiveness -- real-world style
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>I might. If I were a 20-year old guy, trying to emerge from a period that
>now caused me great doubt and acute embarrassment while trying to retain
>some dignity and self-esteem, I probably would have a great deal of
>trouble figuring out how to approach the whole mess.

Um, yes.  Mess would be a good word to use.  But one that I got myself
into,
I freely admit.  But one that anyone can also get themselves out of, if
given
the chance.

>Despite Ron's history of malicious attacks against the Jewish people and
>other groups, I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt and
>well-meaning advice now that he has moved towards repudiating these
views.

My claim to fame, my former labour of love, the huge whopping ten megs of
CHRISTIAN IDENTITY ONLINE, I have nuked.  My darling, my baby, which I
have
nurtured and grown from a little teeny weeny website a year ago, to one of
the most prominent religious political sites, I have blown up.  It is the
most
sensible move to me in repudiating my involvment with unsavory types and
ideas.

>He has shown himself open to dialogue with all kinds of people

Absolutely correct.

>and is clearly seeking to extract himself from the racist milieu. This
isn't
>easy, especially if he feels he has nowhere else to go.

Well, um, gee, thanks to the open arms of so many around here (not), this 
extraction from this mess has been soooo easy and comforting.  My lord, if
this is the kind of compassion a reformed individual gets...

>He'll have to live with the fact that some will never forgive him. 

Que sera, sera.  

>And this isn't to say you shouldn't be skeptical. For years he has sought
out
>the most negative points of view possible, and that will affect his
>thinking for a long time. 

Not much longer, I am convinced.  I have already been going through a
process
of change for nearly six months, as one friend who TOTALLY disagrees with
my former politics observed nearly six months ago in me.  

>But you'd have far more influence over him (and
>others) if you showed your best side, or at least refrained from 
>attacking him. You demand contrition, yet refuse to demonstrate that it 
>is even possible.

So I have noticed.  

>The old cliche ... to err is human, to forgive divine ... retains a great

>deal of truth. 

And so does the fact that I know my sins of the past, in getting involved
with unsavory types and political movements, have all been forgiven by
the only One who really matters.

>Show us your divinity, Joel.

Something tells me he'd rather bring the conversation back around to 
beastiality.  Other Jews have written me (several of them) congratulating
me and extending kindness to me.  So I know it's possible for Joel to act
like a human being, and share the charity his religious brethren have. 
The
question is will he?  

Country Ron



From rschoedel@aol.com Fri Jul  5 15:28:39 PDT 1996
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From: rschoedel@aol.com (RSchoedel)
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Subject: Re: Owner of Rev. Schoedel's station.
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In article <4rhm59$gif@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Patrick Blakely
 wrote:

>The ownership of "Rev" Schoedel station in Bowling Green is none other 
>than Jimmy Swaggart ministries.
>Remember that.

Um, I have not been associated with that radio station for six months.  I
resigned (voluntarily, thank you) in December of 1995.

Your point?  Besides the fact that your fact-finding mission has led you
to
 seriously out of date information...

Country Ron


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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:
>>Without posting some stupid long thing that no one has any
>>desire to read, summarise these lies I have told about you.
>
>A good many people have read them, Mr. Schoedel - that is,
>after all, the reason they exist.
>
>1. You have stated that I am a draft dodger. Let's begin
>there.

If that is false, my sincerest apologies.

>>>and when he repudiates his anti-Jewish agenda
>
>>I did this simply by leaving the white power junk behind
>>me.
>
>Have you left Identity behind you as well? 

I have indeed.

>>Well, the difference being Dave Duke is involved in politics.
>>I no longer am.  This has nothing to do with me advancing in
>>the political realm.  It has everything to do with settling
>>down and enjoying a quiet, more private life.
>
>I hope you are sincere. 

I am indeed.

>Have you left Identity behind, then, as a hateful remnant of your past?

Again, indeed I have.

Schoedel




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From: "Ronald C. Schoedel" 
Subject: Rosenburger: Sick Old Bastard

joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>(And, again to correct Ole "The Stopped Clock" Kreiberg:  the quote wasn't 
>email to the "Reverend" Ron.  It was publicly posted to the newsgroup, and I'm

>perfectly pleased to see it posted again.)  


You are a sick old pervert, Joel.  Would you like for those precious little
daughters of yours to see what their daddy writes in his spare time?  Only a
really sick old bastard would, something tells me Joel you would not want
anyone
who knows you and respects you to see your filth, which you post on here,
hoping
that only a few computer geeks see what you are really about.

Tell me Joel, when you put your little girls to bed, do you read them stories
about dog-f--king, excrement and masturbation; all of which you have shown a 
special love for here?

It's one thing to say something sickening, it's another thing to be proud of it
Joel.  

Country Ron


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From rschoedel@aol.com Sat Jul 13 13:56:35 PDT 1996
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Subject: Calling Ken McVay...
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CQ Ken McVay...CQ Ken McVay...

Drop me a line Ken at this AOL address (alaska.net address is outdated) or
give me a call sometime.  We need to talk.  I think you'll be very
interested in what I need to talk about.

Schoedel



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