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From schmidt@deepcove.com Fri Jan  3 20:21:17 PST 1997
Article: 93471 of soc.culture.german
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From: schmidt@deepcove.com (Terry Schmidt)
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Subject: Tuettleber Dorfgedichte
Date: 4 Jan 1997 02:49:36 GMT
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Ein fröhliches neues Jahr!

Zum Thema primitives Barbarenvolk:

Wird ein Apfel nicht gepflückt,
fällt hart dann auf den Grund,
kann es passieren das er rollt,
denn Äpfel die sind rund.

Vom Aufschlag den Verstand gerammt,
weiß er nicht mehr von wo er stammt,
die Zukunft ist nun mal vorbei,
mit anderen wird er Apfelbrei.

So ist das Leben fast umsonst,
wenn du nicht weißt woher du kommst,
doch sei es wie es sei,
ein guter Apfel hochpoliert,
kommt nicht in einen Apfelbrei.


Zum Thema Rechtssprechung:

Wir richten für das Vaterland,
und keiner kann uns je entlassen,
egal, wenn wir uns mal vertun,
uns kann man da nur sehr schwer fassen.
Wir sprechen Recht für die Partei,
und die Regierung - wer sie auch sei,
damit sind wir verbunden.
Das Volk das kann uns viel erzählen,
sie dürfen uns nicht einmal wählen,
wir wollen keine Richterwahl,
doch denn Gehalt den müßt ihr zahlen.


Ist Terry männlich oder weiblich?
Aha, der heißt ja gar nicht so.

Ich laß mir nicht von irgendwem 
an meine weise Weste pinckeln.
Ob Telekom, 
ob Zionist 
ein Grüner 
oder gar Faschist 
vielleicht ein Scienceologist
mein Kittel ist so teflonglatt
die Krallen meiner Widersprecher
hacken da nicht einmal ein
und rutschen schlüpfrig davon ab.



From schmidt@deepcove.com Mon Jan  6 01:57:25 PST 1997
Article: 93624 of soc.culture.german
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From: schmidt@deepcove.com (Terry Schmidt)
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Subject: Re: The Trial against the former East German borderguards
Date: 6 Jan 1997 02:57:58 GMT
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In article , olk@login.dknet.dk (Ole Kreiberg) says:
>
>In article , Martin Paegert wrote:
>>Ole Kreiberg (olk@login.dknet.dk) wrote about GDR Border Patrol shooting
>>at those who tried to flee from the GDR:
>>
>>> They even prevented some citizens from breaking the law by shooting at
>>> them.
>>
>>Sounds as if you think it is a particulary good idea to "prevent citizens
>>from breaking law" by shooting them. 
>>
> Well those drastic steps might have been necessary to prevent people
>from fleeing the republic. If too many people left the republic it would
>have broken down. This might have disturbed the balance between East and  
>West which again could have caused dangers of a worldwar.
>
>>
>>> I say that they only did what their superiors ordered them to do. 
>>
>>That does not matter as the international human right is superior to
>>national law or any orders. 
>
> I am not so sure about that. In my country the constitution says that their
>is no authority beside or above the parliament. If the parliament subscribe
>to all of the human rights they are valid. If a majority of the parliament 
>want unsubscribe to some of the human rights they can do so. I think this
>is the same in all countries. The constitution in my country says that it is
>high treason to do something against the majority of the parliament. 
>
>>Thus in severe cases of human rights
>>violations as this you might well find yourself accused and sentenced one
>>day even if everything was "legal under national law".
>>
>This is Kangaroo justice. If you lived in DDR you are subjected to
>the law of the DDR and nothing else.
>
>> But whatever law or orders tell you, there are basics
>>which fall in your responsibility: if the action would violate basic human
>>rights. 
>
> If you live in a democracy you have the right to be in opposition to every
>law and act of the government as well the human rights. The human rights
>are made by humans and can be changed by humans. 
>
>>Example: If you torture somebody you will not come off with a "But
>>it was perfectly legal to do so.".
>>-- 
> A lot of people in innumerable third world dictatorships have done so.
>Or what about the former communist countries? Have all those who 
>have mistreated political prisoners there been tried and convicted?
>--
>Ole Kreiberg  http://login.dknet.dk/~olk

As a former borderguard, who escaped, I can only say that soldiers
were there by choice. No one got drafted into this "elite" section of
the DDR military.  It was under the supervision of state security.
I've chosen the borderguards as my ticket out of the DDR. 
Those who killed other germans, trying to get out had other options,
like shooting over their heads. No , they made the choice to kill
and as far as I am concerned should be killed too. 
They are Bastards  -  Minutes before I escaped I asked my patrol
partner what he would do if his brother escaped? He said he would
shoot him. By switching guns , I gave him mine, without bullets, it
was possible for me to get out.  There is always a way!!!


From schmidt@deepcove.com Mon Jan 13 07:50:11 PST 1997
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From: "ADVENTURE!!!" 
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SAILING IN WESTERN CANADA

PRINCESS LOUISA INLET BY 65' SAILING YACHT:
Spend 6 days aboard a luxurious yacht, experiencing some of the most
spectacular sceneries in Canada. 
This backpacker special cruise includes many of Canada's favourite
past-times: sailing, hiking, fishing and viewing amazing scenery and
wildlife. 
The destination is a remote inlet at the end of a huge fjord on the
Sunshine Coast that can only be reached by boat or sea-plane. 
Set the sails, navigate around coastal islands, fish for almost anything,
hike from the sea to the snow and wade in waterfalls.

"On the trip we caught a shark, some cod, and saw bald eagles, seals and
whales. 
Sailing was a blast and the spectacular scenery made the 6 day trip an
unbelievable experience."  Paul Jones - England

So, all what you would need now is a sleeping bag, food, $395 per person,
and a camera. (trips will start in May and troughout the whole summer)

Email me for more Information, Images of the boat, ...


---
Cruise to Princess Louisa Inlet - 1 week of wonderful sights and relaxation

The princess Louisa Inlet is in one of the many beautiful British Columbia 
marine parks. This fjord is like no
other in the world. It has a charm and scenic beauty no words can
adequately describe, it must be seen and
experienced to be known.
Far inland, approched from the Straights of Georgia, by way of Jervis
Inlet, this magnificent granite-walled
gorge was cut out by an ice glacier of milleniums past through the snow
tipped mountains that rise sharply
>from  the water's edge to a height in excess of  2100 meters or 7000 feet.
As placid as a Mountain lake, the
ocean waters of Princess Louisa Inlet move constantly with the tides.
Currents are practically non-existent
except for the 7-10 knot Malibu Rapids at the very entrance. The inlet is
almost completely enclosed, is 300
meters (1000 feet) deep and never more than 800 meters (1/2 mile) wide
inits 8 Km length.

Until  mid-June the warm sun melting the snow of the mountains creates more
than 60 waterfalls which
cascade down the steep walls. The biggest is Chatterbox Falls at the head
of the inlet tumbles 40 meters
into the water to chatter the stillness that is otherwise  disturbed only
by the murmor of boat motors or the
lap of water against hulls or pontoons. During  July and August the waters
near the fall reach a comfortable
20 degrees Celsius and a sandy beach is ideal for swimmers.

Princess Louisa Inlet, called by the Natives "Suivoolot" meaning sunny and
warm, has beckoned sea
travelers since it was first seen by man. And, except for Seaplanes, the
sea is the only way there. No public 
road is closer than 68 kilometers ( 40 miles).

The privilege of enjoying this bit of paradise comes through the generosity
and farsightedness of James
F. Macdonald. who saw and experienced the charm of Princess Louisa Inlet in
1919. He had learned of the
inlet from an uncle who had sailed it in 1907. He bought the land
surounding Chatterbox Falls in 1927 and
built a lovely log cabin unfortunately it was destroyed 1940 by fire. 1953
Mac. willed it to the yachtsmen of
the Pacific North West . The property passed to the Government of B.C. from
the international Princess
Louisa Society which to this day cares for this wonderful place on earth.

Text: Legend of Princess Louisa Inlet  B.C.. Parks

A Sailing voyage in calm waters with nature at it's best.
It is more than beauitful, it is sacred.
I have seen Princess Louisa Inlet, I dont need to see the rest of the
world..
A must for those living in a pressure cooker.






From schmidt@deepcove.com Mon Jan 13 07:50:46 PST 1997
Article: 101699 of can.general
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From: "ADVENTURE!!!" 
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SAILING IN WESTERN CANADA

PRINCESS LOUISA INLET BY 65' SAILING YACHT:
Spend 6 days aboard a luxurious yacht, experiencing some of the most
spectacular sceneries in Canada. 
This backpacker special cruise includes many of Canada's favourite
past-times: sailing, hiking, fishing and viewing amazing scenery and
wildlife. 
The destination is a remote inlet at the end of a huge fjord on the
Sunshine Coast that can only be reached by boat or sea-plane. 
Set the sails, navigate around coastal islands, fish for almost anything,
hike from the sea to the snow and wade in waterfalls.

"On the trip we caught a shark, some cod, and saw bald eagles, seals and
whales. 
Sailing was a blast and the spectacular scenery made the 6 day trip an
unbelievable experience."  Paul Jones - England

So, all what you would need now is a sleeping bag, food, $395 per person,
and a camera. (trips will start in May and troughout the whole summer)

Email me for more Information, Images of the boat, ...


---
Cruise to Princess Louisa Inlet - 1 week of wonderful sights and relaxation

The princess Louisa Inlet is in one of the many beautiful British Columbia 
marine parks. This fjord is like no
other in the world. It has a charm and scenic beauty no words can
adequately describe, it must be seen and
experienced to be known.
Far inland, approched from the Straights of Georgia, by way of Jervis
Inlet, this magnificent granite-walled
gorge was cut out by an ice glacier of milleniums past through the snow
tipped mountains that rise sharply
>from  the water's edge to a height in excess of  2100 meters or 7000 feet.
As placid as a Mountain lake, the
ocean waters of Princess Louisa Inlet move constantly with the tides.
Currents are practically non-existent
except for the 7-10 knot Malibu Rapids at the very entrance. The inlet is
almost completely enclosed, is 300
meters (1000 feet) deep and never more than 800 meters (1/2 mile) wide
inits 8 Km length.

Until  mid-June the warm sun melting the snow of the mountains creates more
than 60 waterfalls which
cascade down the steep walls. The biggest is Chatterbox Falls at the head
of the inlet tumbles 40 meters
into the water to chatter the stillness that is otherwise  disturbed only
by the murmor of boat motors or the
lap of water against hulls or pontoons. During  July and August the waters
near the fall reach a comfortable
20 degrees Celsius and a sandy beach is ideal for swimmers.

Princess Louisa Inlet, called by the Natives "Suivoolot" meaning sunny and
warm, has beckoned sea
travelers since it was first seen by man. And, except for Seaplanes, the
sea is the only way there. No public 
road is closer than 68 kilometers ( 40 miles).

The privilege of enjoying this bit of paradise comes through the generosity
and farsightedness of James
F. Macdonald. who saw and experienced the charm of Princess Louisa Inlet in
1919. He had learned of the
inlet from an uncle who had sailed it in 1907. He bought the land
surounding Chatterbox Falls in 1927 and
built a lovely log cabin unfortunately it was destroyed 1940 by fire. 1953
Mac. willed it to the yachtsmen of
the Pacific North West . The property passed to the Government of B.C. from
the international Princess
Louisa Society which to this day cares for this wonderful place on earth.

Text: Legend of Princess Louisa Inlet  B.C.. Parks

A Sailing voyage in calm waters with nature at it's best.
It is more than beauitful, it is sacred.
I have seen Princess Louisa Inlet, I dont need to see the rest of the
world..
A must for those living in a pressure cooker.






From schmidt@deepcove.com Mon Jan 13 07:57:27 PST 1997
Article: 107401 of soc.culture.jewish
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From: "ADVENTURE!!!" 
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SAILING IN WESTERN CANADA

PRINCESS LOUISA INLET BY 65' SAILING YACHT:
Spend 6 days aboard a luxurious yacht, experiencing some of the most
spectacular sceneries in Canada. 
This backpacker special cruise includes many of Canada's favourite
past-times: sailing, hiking, fishing and viewing amazing scenery and
wildlife. 
The destination is a remote inlet at the end of a huge fjord on the
Sunshine Coast that can only be reached by boat or sea-plane. 
Set the sails, navigate around coastal islands, fish for almost anything,
hike from the sea to the snow and wade in waterfalls.

"On the trip we caught a shark, some cod, and saw bald eagles, seals and
whales. 
Sailing was a blast and the spectacular scenery made the 6 day trip an
unbelievable experience."  Paul Jones - England

So, all what you would need now is a sleeping bag, food, $395 per person,
and a camera. (trips will start in May and troughout the whole summer)

Email me for more Information, Images of the boat, ...


---
Cruise to Princess Louisa Inlet - 1 week of wonderful sights and relaxation

The princess Louisa Inlet is in one of the many beautiful British Columbia 
marine parks. This fjord is like no
other in the world. It has a charm and scenic beauty no words can
adequately describe, it must be seen and
experienced to be known.
Far inland, approched from the Straights of Georgia, by way of Jervis
Inlet, this magnificent granite-walled
gorge was cut out by an ice glacier of milleniums past through the snow
tipped mountains that rise sharply
>from  the water's edge to a height in excess of  2100 meters or 7000 feet.
As placid as a Mountain lake, the
ocean waters of Princess Louisa Inlet move constantly with the tides.
Currents are practically non-existent
except for the 7-10 knot Malibu Rapids at the very entrance. The inlet is
almost completely enclosed, is 300
meters (1000 feet) deep and never more than 800 meters (1/2 mile) wide
inits 8 Km length.

Until  mid-June the warm sun melting the snow of the mountains creates more
than 60 waterfalls which
cascade down the steep walls. The biggest is Chatterbox Falls at the head
of the inlet tumbles 40 meters
into the water to chatter the stillness that is otherwise  disturbed only
by the murmor of boat motors or the
lap of water against hulls or pontoons. During  July and August the waters
near the fall reach a comfortable
20 degrees Celsius and a sandy beach is ideal for swimmers.

Princess Louisa Inlet, called by the Natives "Suivoolot" meaning sunny and
warm, has beckoned sea
travelers since it was first seen by man. And, except for Seaplanes, the
sea is the only way there. No public 
road is closer than 68 kilometers ( 40 miles).

The privilege of enjoying this bit of paradise comes through the generosity
and farsightedness of James
F. Macdonald. who saw and experienced the charm of Princess Louisa Inlet in
1919. He had learned of the
inlet from an uncle who had sailed it in 1907. He bought the land
surounding Chatterbox Falls in 1927 and
built a lovely log cabin unfortunately it was destroyed 1940 by fire. 1953
Mac. willed it to the yachtsmen of
the Pacific North West . The property passed to the Government of B.C. from
the international Princess
Louisa Society which to this day cares for this wonderful place on earth.

Text: Legend of Princess Louisa Inlet  B.C.. Parks

A Sailing voyage in calm waters with nature at it's best.
It is more than beauitful, it is sacred.
I have seen Princess Louisa Inlet, I dont need to see the rest of the
world..
A must for those living in a pressure cooker.






From schmidt@deepcove.com Tue Jan 14 10:40:38 PST 1997
Article: 101850 of can.general
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From: "CDR's CDR's CDR's" 
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Subject: I'll buy your ruined CD-ROM Medias!
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I'll buy your ruined CD-ROM Medias! 

Email me what you've got and I'll email what you'll get therefore! o.k.?





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