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From Sun Aug  4 08:05:42 PDT 1996
Article: 73828 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
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Subject: Re: Who Are the "Terrorists"?
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>Yet, I thought that terrorists did things for a reason or a cause, and
>announced to the world who they are and what they WANT.
>Yet, in both cases, nobody has yet come forward, claiming 
>responsibility. Why?

I dont think the citizens of America, or, the planet even, would accept 
Bill Clinton , the ATF, the FBI, the freemasons, the news media and the 
rest of the illuminati coming foward without some kind of revolution.

From Sun Aug  4 08:05:44 PDT 1996
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>What is your proof of this "expose?"  Is it as reliable as the "proofs"
>in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, on which anti-Semites have
>relied for years?

No, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was created by the Illuminati to 
divert attention away from them and onto the Jews.

>Who are these secret elders?  Anyone I know?  I find it hard to believe
>that any of the SGIG's with whom I am acquainted are engaged in any 
>fantastic behavior--most of them are too old to perform "wild, wicked,
>filthy acts."

go to
and READ.

From Mon Aug  5 13:41:34 PDT 1996
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>Review the news tapes of a month, up to the Olympics. See for yourself. 
>Did CNN engage a nut-case into "thinking" about something getting a LOT 
>of NEWS, but this ugly event?
>They tend to PUSH NEWS, rather than report it. HEY! JANE! Get tha HO 
>outta my station!

CNN did push alot on the Olympics, especially on the day of the bombing,
 well, thats an understatement, they ran news coverage on it ALL DAY.
The bombing was planned years ago by Bill Clinton and the cabals,
we will be in marshall law within/in a year.

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>stand up and take responsibility for themselves. Your fight is a lost 
>gentlemen. The fact that a vocal number of you are borderline racists 
>paranoids doesn't help, either, I would posit.

and b) if you keep up with things, you have no other choice but to be 
PARANOID and that is FACT.
William Cooper talked about the bomb that would go off at the olympics 
years ago and how a year later marshall law will be declared, and it 

From Thu Aug  8 15:27:25 PDT 1996
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>Who are they?   What are they?    Why are they here?

They arent.

>What is the Alien Agenda?   Do we know?

There is only one agenda for this planet and UFOs have nothing to do 
with it.

>Is the government covering up???

no the government is FABRICATING.

From Fri Aug  9 17:54:59 PDT 1996
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It has begun, the beginning of the agenda to end religion.
N.A.S.A. will use the life on mars theory to aid in the destruction of 
the idea that we have a creator. They have already hinted towards that 
in the news conference which tells me the direction that they are 
researching this in and why they are researching it. I expect certain 
documents containing the 'secrets of man' to be unearthed anytime 
between now and 2003. More than likely 2000. These will be used to put 
an end to all religion. The documents will come straight from the 
pyramid of Cheops in Egypt. 

From Sun Aug 11 08:27:46 PDT 1996
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Josh Olaf ( wrote:

: Agreed.  If there is a God, and this God has the ability to create 
: life throughout the universe, then why should proof of ET deny proof of God?

Because there is no proof, the whole thing is a fraud and they will use 
it to explain a 'scientific' origin of the universe, which will never 
lead to the idea that we have a creator.

From Sun Aug 11 08:27:48 PDT 1996
Article: 76804 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
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[following was retrieved from the 'net.-DS]

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Excerpts from Behold a Pale Horse by Milton William Cooper

Chapter One, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars

Copy furnished by Mr. Tom Young, A fellow Warrior in the cause of freedom.
Excerpts printed word for word exactly as discovered (With the added emph-
asis and comments of William Cooper)


      [above title added by WC]

      WC/Authors note: I read top secret documents which explained that
      "Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars" is the doctrine adopted by the
      Policy Committee of the Bilderberg group during its first known
      meeting in 1954. A copy found in 1969 was in possession of Naval

      The following document, dated May 1979, was found on July 7, 1986,
      in an IBM copier that has been purchased at a surplus sale.

                                 Top Secret

                        Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars

                       an introductory programming manual

                              Operations Research

                              Technical Manual


Welcome aboard

This publication marks the 25th anniversary of the third world war, called
the quiet war, being conducted using subjective biological warfare, fought
with silent weapons.

This book contains an introductory description of this war, it's
strategies, and it's weaponry.

May 1979 #74-1120


It is patently impossible to discuss social engineering or the automation
of society, i.e. the engineering of social automation systems (silent
weapons) on a national or worldwide scale without implying extensive
objectives of social control and destruction of human life, i.e. slavery
and genocide.

This manual is in itself an analog declaration of intent. Such a writing
must be secured from public scrutiny. Otherwise, it might be recognized as
a technically formal declaration of domestic war. Furthermore, whenever any
person or group or group of persons in a position of great power and
without full knowledge and consent of the public, uses such knowledge and
methodology for economic conquest; it must be understood that a state of
domestic warfare exists between said person or group of persons and the

The solution of today's problems requires an approach which is ruthlessly
candid, with no agonizing over religious, moral, or cultural values. You
have qualified for this project because of your ability to look at human
society with cold objectivity, and yet analyze and discuss your
observations and conclusions with others of similar intellectual capacity
without a loss of discretion or humility. Such virtues are exercised in
your own best interest. Do not deviate from them.

Historical Introduction

Silent weapons technology has evolved from operations research, a strategic
and tactical methodology developed under military management in England
during World War II. The original purpose of operations research was to
study the strategic and tactical problems with air and land defense with
the objective of effective use of limited military resources against
foreign enemies (i.e.. Logistics).

It was soon realized by those in positions of power that the same methods
might be useful for totally controlling a society. but better tools were
necessary. Social engineering (the analysis and automation of society)
requires the correlation of great amounts of constantly changing economic
information (data) so a high speed computerized data-processing system was
necessary which could race ahead of the society and predict when society
would arrive for capitulation.

Relay computers were too slow, but the electronic computer, invented in
1946 by J. Presper Eckert and John W. Mauchly, filled the bill. The next
breakthrough was the development of the simplex method of linear
programming in 1947 by George B. Danzig. Then, in 1948, the transistor,
invented by J. Bardeen, W. H. Brittain, and W. Shockley, promised great
expansion of the computer field by reducing space and power requirements.

With these three inventions under their direction, those in positions of
power strongly suspected that it was possible for them to control the whole
world with the push of a button. Immediately the Rockefeller Foundation got
in on the ground floor by making a four-year grant to Harvard college,
funding the Harvard Economic Research Project for the study of the
structure of the American economy. One year later, 1949, the United States
Air Force joined in. In 1952 the original grant period terminated and a
high-level meeting of the elite was to determine the next phase of social
operations research. The Harvard project had been very fruitful, as is
borne out by the publication of some of the results in 1953 suggesting the
feasibility of economic (social) engineering. (Studies in the Structure of
the American Economy, copyright 1953 by Wassily Leontief, International
Sciences Press inc., White Plains, New York).

Engineered in the last half of the decade of the 1940's, the new quiet war
machine stood, so to speak, in sparkling gold-plated hardware on the
showroom floor by 1954. With the creation of the maser in 1954, the promise
of unlocking unlimited sources of fusion atomic energy from the heavy
hydrogen in sea water, and the consequent availability of unlimited social
power was a possibility only decades away. The combination was
irresistible. The quiet war was quietly declared by the international elite
at a meeting held in 1954. Although the silent weapons system was nearly
exposed 13 years later, the evolution of the new weapons system has never
suffered any major setbacks. This volume marks the 25th anniversary of the
beginning of the quiet war. Already this domestic war has had many
victories on many fronts throughout the world.

Political Introduction

In 1954, it was well recognized by those in positions of authority that it
was only a matter of time, only a few decades, before the general public
would be able to grasp and upset the cradle of power, for the very elements
of the new silent-weapons technology were as accessible for a public utopia
as they were for providing a private utopia. The issue of primary concern,
that of dominance, revolved around the subject of the energy sciences.


Energy is recognized as the key to all activity on earth. Natural science
is the study of the sources and control of natural energy, and social
science, theoretically expressed as economics, is the study of the sources
and control of social energy. Both are bookkeeping systems: mathematics.
Therefore, mathematics is the primary energy science. And the bookkeeper
can be king if the public can be kept ignorant of the methodology of
bookkeeping. All Science is simply a means to an end: the means is
knowledge, the end is control, and the end always justifies the means.
Beyond this remains only one issue: who will be the beneficiary?

In 1954 this was the issue of primary concern. Although the so-called
"moral issues" were raised, in view of the law of natural selection, it was
agreed that a nation or world of people who will not use their intelligence
are no better than animals who do not have intelligence. Such people are
beasts of burden and steaks on the table by choice and consent.

Consequently, in the interest of future world order, peace, and
tranquillity, it was decided to privately wage a quiet war against the
American public with an ultimate objective of permanently shifting the
natural and social energy (wealth) of the undisciplined and irresponsible
many into the hands of the self-disciplined, responsible, and worthy few.

In order to implement this objective, it was necessary to create, secure,
and apply new weapons which, as it turned out, were a class of weapons so
subtle and sophisticated in their principle of operation and public
appearance as to earn for themselves the name silent weapons. In
conclusion, the objective of economic research, as conducted by the
magnates of capital (banking) and the industries of commodities (goods) and
services, is the establishment of an economy which is totally predictable
and manipulatible.

In order to achieve a totally predictable economy, the low-class elements
of society must be brought under total control, i.e.. Must be housebroken,
trained, and assigned a yoke and long-term social duties from a very early
age, before they have the opportunity to question the propriety of the
matter. In order to achieve such conformity, the lower-class family unit
must be disintegrated by a process of increasing preoccupation of the
parents, and the establishment of government operated day-care centers for
the occupationally orphaned children.

The quality of education given to the lower class must be of the poorest
sort, so that the moat of ignorance isolating the inferior class from the
superior class is and remains incomprehensible to the inferior class. With
such an initial handicap even the bright lower class individuals have
little, if any hope of extricating themselves from their assigned lot in
life. This form of slavery is essential to maintaining some measure of
social order, peace, and tranquillity for the ruling upper class.

Descriptive Introduction Of The Silent Weapon

Everything that is expected from the ordinary weapon is expected from a
silent weapon by it's creators, but only in it's own manner of functioning.
It shoots situations, instead of bullets: propelled by data processing,
instead of chemical reaction (explosion): originating from bits of data,
instead of grains of gunpowder: from a computer, instead of a gun, operated
by a computer programmer instead of a marksman; under the orders of a
banking magnate, instead of a military general.

It makes no obvious explosive noises, causes no obvious physical or mental
injuries, and does not obviously interfere with anyone's daily social life.
Yet it makes an unmistakable "noise", causes unmistakable physical and
mental damage, and unmistakably interferes with daily social life, i.e.,
unmistakable to a trained observer, one who knows what to look for. The
public cannot comprehend this weapon, and therefore cannot believe that
they are being attacked and subdued by a weapon. The public might
instinctively feel that something is wrong, but because of the technical
nature of the silent weapon, they cannot express their feelings in a
rational way, or handle the problem of intelligence. Therefore, they do not
know how to cry for help, and do not know how to associate with others to
defend themselves against it.

When a silent weapon is applied gradually, the public adjusts/ adapts to
it's presence and learns to tolerate it's encroachment on their lives until
the pressure (psychological via economic) becomes too great and they crack
up. Therefore, the silent weapon is a type of biological warfare. It
attacks the vitality, options, and mobility of the individuals of society
by knowing, understanding manipulating, and attacking their sources of
natural and social energy, and their physical, mental, and emotional
strengths and weaknesses.

Theoretical Introduction

"Give me control of a nation's currency,

and I care not who makes it's laws."

--Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1743-1612)

Today's silent weapons technology is an outgrowth of a simple idea
discovered, succinctly expressed, and effectively applied by the quoted Mr.
Mayer Amschel Rothschild. Mr.Rothschild discovered the missing passive
component of economic theory known as economic inductance. He, of course,
did not think of his discovery in these 20th-century terms, and, to be
sure, mathematical analysis had to wait for the second industrial
revolution, the rise of the theory of mechanics and electronics, and
finally, the invention of the electronic computer before it could be
effectively applied in the control of the world economy.

General Energy Concepts

In the study of energy systems, there always appear three elementary
concepts. These are potential energy, kinetic energy, and energy
dissipation. And corresponding to these concepts, there are three
idealized, essentially pure physical counterparts called passive
components. All of the mathematical theory developed in the study of one
energy system (e.g. Mechanics, electronics) can be immediately applied in
the study of any other energy system (e.g.. Economics).

Energy system Potential energy Kinetic energy Energy dissipation

Physical mechanics: elasticity inertia in friction

or stiffness mass or resistance

Electronic science: capacitance inductance resistor or

(in a capacitor) (in an inductor) conductor

Economic science: capital (money goods (production services (influence

or liquid assets) flow coefficients) of population)

Mr.Rothschild's Energy Discovery

What Mr. Rothschild had discovered was the basic principle of power,
influence, and control over people as applied to economics. That principle
is when you assume the position of power people soon give it to you. Mr.
Rothschild discovered that currency or deposit loan accounts had the
required appearance of power that could be used to induce people
(inductance, with people corresronding to a magnetic field) into
surrendering their real wealth for in exchange for a promise of greater
wealth (instead of real compensation). They would put up real collateral in
exchange for a loan of promissory notes. Mr. Rothschild found that he could
issue more notes than he had backing for, so long as he had someone's stock
of gold to show as a persuader to show to his customers. Mr. Rothschild
loaned his promissory notes to individuals and to governments. These would
create overconfidence. Then he would make money scarce, tighten control of
the system, and collect the collateral through the obligation of contracts.
The cycle was then repeated. These pressures could be used to ignite a war.
That government which agreed to give him control of it's economic system
got his support. Collection of debts was guaranteed by economic aid to the
enemy of the debtor.

Apparent Capital As An Economic Inductor

In this structure, credit, presented as a pure element called "currency",
has the appearance of capital, but is, in fact, negative capital. Hence, it
has the appearance of service, but is in fact, indebtedness or debt. It is
therefore an economic inductance instead of an economic capacitance, and if
balanced in no other way, will be balanced by the negation of population
(war, genocide). The total goods and services represent real capital called
the gross national product, and may be printed up to this level and still
represent economic capacitance: but currency printed beyond this level is
subtractive, represents the introduction of economic inductance and
constitutes notes of indebtedness.

War is therefore the balancing of the system by killing the true creditors
(the public which we have taught to exchange true value for inflated
currency) and falling back on whatever is left of the resources of nature
and the regeneration of those resources. Mr. Rothschild had discovered that
currency gave him the power to rearrange the economic structure to his own
advantage, to shift economic inductance to those economic positions which
would encourage the greatest economic stability and oscillation. The final
key to economic control had to wait until there was sufficient data and
high-speed computing equipment to keep close watch on the economic
oscillations created by price shocking and excess paper energy credits;
paper inductance/inflation.


The aviation field provided the greatest evolution in economic engineering
by way of the mathematical theory of shock testing. In this process, a
projectile is fired from a airframe on the ground and the impulse of the
recoil is monitored by vibration transducers connected to the airframe and
wired to chart recorders. By studying the echoes or reflections of the
recoil impulse in the airframe, it is possible to discover critical
vibrations in the structure of the airframe which either vibrations of the
engine or aeolian vibrations of the wings, or a combination of the two,
might result in a resonant self-destruction of the airframe in flight as an
aircraft. From the standpoint of engineering, this means that the strengths
on weaknesses of the structure of the mainframe in terms of vibrational
energy can be discovered and manipulated.

Application In Economics

To use this method of airframe shocking in economic engineering, the prices
of commodities are shocked, and the public consumer reaction is monitored.
The resulting echoes of the economic shock are interpreted theoretically by
computers and the pseudo-economic structure of the economy is thus
discovered. It is by this process that partial differential and difference
matrices are discovered that define the family household and make possible
it's evaluation as an economic industry (dissipative consumer structure).

Then the response of the household to future shocks can be predicted and
manipulated, and society becomes a well-regulated animal with it's reins
under control of a sophisticate computer-regulated social energy
bookkeeping system. Eventually, every individual element of the structure
comes under computer control through a knowledge of personal preferences,
such knowledge guaranteed by computer association of consumer preferences
(universal product code, U.P.C.) with identified customers (identified via
association with the use of a credit card and later a permanent "tattooed"
body number invisible under normal ambient illumination.

The Economic Model

The Harvard Economic Research Project (1948-) was an extention of World War
II operations research. It's purpose was to discover the science of
controlling an economy: at first the American economy, and then the world
economy. It was felt that with sufficient mathematical foundation and data,
it would be nearly as easy to predict and control the trend of an economy
as to predict and control the trajectory of a projectile. Such has proved
to be the case. Moreover, the economy has been transformed into a guided
missile on target.

The immediate aim of the Harvard project was to discover the economic
structure, what forces change that structure. How the behavior of the
structure can be predicted, and how it can be manipulated. What was needed
was a well organized knowledge of the mathematical structures and
interrelationships of investment. Production, distribution, and

To make a short story of it all, it was discovered that an economy obeyed
the same laws as electricity, and that all the mathematical theory and
practical computer know-how developed for the electronic field could be
directly applied in the study of economics. This discovery was not openly
declared, and it's more subtle implications were and are kept a closely
guarded secret, for example that in an economic model, human life is
measured in dollars, and that the electrical spark generated when opening a
switch connected to an active inductor is mathematically analogous to the
initiation of war.

The greatest hurdle which theoretical economists faced was the accurate
description of the household as an industry. This is a challenge because
consumer purchases are a matter of choice which in turn is influenced by
income, price, and other economic factors. This hurdle was cleared in an
indirect and statistically approximate way by an application of shock
testing to determine the current characteristics, called current technical
coefficients, of a household industry. Finally, because problems in
theoretical economics can be translated very easily into problems in
theoretical electronics, and the solution translated back again, it follows
that only a book of language translation and concept definition needed to
be written for economics. The remainder could be gotten from standard works
on mathematics and electronics. This makes the publication of books on
advanced economics unnecessary, and greatly simplifies project security

Industrial Diagrams

An ideal industry is defined as a device which receives value from other
industries in several forms and converts it into on specific product for
sales and distribution to other industries. It has several inputs and one
output. What the public normally thinks of as one industry is really an
industrial complex where several industries under one roof produce one or
more products.

Three Industrial Classes

Industries fall into three categories or classes by type of output:

Class #1-Capital (resources), consists of three levels:

-Nature- sources of energy and raw materials.

-Government- printing of currency equal to GNP, inflation of currency
exceeding the GNP.

-Banking- loaning of money for interest, and extension
(inflation/counterfeiting) of economic

value through deposit loan accounts.

Class #2-Goods (commodities or use-dissipative), consists of producers of
tangible or consumer

(dissipated) products. This sort of activity is usually and labeled by the
public as an


Class #3-Services (action of population), service rather than a tangible
product as their output.

These industries are called (1) households, and (2) governments. Their
output is human

activity of a mechanical sort, and their basis is population.


The whole economic system can be represented by a three-industry model if
one allows the names of the outputs to be capital, goods, and services. The
problem with this representation is that it would not show the influence of
say, the textile industry on the ferrous metal industry. This is because
both would be contained within the single classification called the goods
industry and by this process of combining or aggregating these two
industries under one system block they would lose their economic

The E-model

A national economy consists of simultaneous flows of production,
distribution, consumption, and investment. If all these elements including
labor and human functions are assigned a numerical value in like units of
measure, say, 1939 dollars, then this flow can be further represented by a
current flow in an electronic circuit, and it's behavior can be predicted
and manipulated with useful precision. The three ideal passive energy
components of electronics, the capacitor, the resistor, and the inductor
correspond to the three ideal passive energy components of economics called
the pure industries of capital, goods, and services, respectively.

Economic capacitance represents the storage of capital in one form or

Economic conductance represents the level of conductance of materials for
the production of goods.

Economic inductance represents the inertia of economic value in motion.
This is a population phenomenon known as services.

Economic Inductance

An electrical inductor (e.g. coil of wire) has an electrical current as
it's primary phenomenon and a magnetic field as it's secondary phenomenon
(inertia). Corresponding to this, an economic inductor has a flow of
economic value as it's primary phenomenon and a population field as it's
secondary phenomenon of inertia. When the flow of economic value (e.g.
money) diminishes, the human population field collapses in order to keep
the economic value (money) flowing (extreme case-war). This public inertia
is a result of consumer buying habits, expected standard of living etc...
And is generally a phenomenon of self-preservation.

Inductive factors to consider:

(1) population

(2) magnitude of the economic activities of the government

(3) the method of financing these government activities

(see Peter-Paul Principle -- the inflation of currency)


Charge Coulombs (c) Dollars (1939)

flow/current Amperes (c per sec.) Dollar flow per year

Motivating force Volts Dollars (output) demand

Conductance Amperes per volt Dollars of flow per year per dollar demand

Capacitance c per volt Dollars of production, Inventory/stock per dollar

Time Flow Relationships And Self Destructive Oscillations

The ideal industry may be symbolized electronically in various ways. The
simplest way is to represent a demand by a voltage and a supply by a
current. When this is done, the relationship between the two becomes what
is called an admittance, which can result from three economic factors: (1)
hindsight flow, (2) present flow, and (3) foresight flow. Foresight flow is
the result of that property of living entities to cause energy (food) to be
stored for a period of low energy (e.g. winter season). It consists of
demands made upon an economic system for that period of low energy (winter
season). In a production industry it takes several forms, one of which is
known as production stock or inventory. In electronic symbology this
specific industry demand (a pure capital industry) is represented by
capacitance, and the stock or resource is represented by a stored charge.
Satisfaction of an industry demand suffers a lag because of the loading
effect of inventory priorities present flow ideally involves no delays. It
is so to speak input today for output today, a hand to mouth flow in
electronic symbology, this specific industry demand (a pure use industry)
is represented by a conductance which is then a simple economic valve (a
dissipative element).

Hindsight flow is known as habit or inertia. In electronics this phenomenon
is characteristic of an inductor (a pure service industry) in which a
current flow (flow of money) creates a magnetic field (active human
population) which, if the current (money flow) begins to diminish,
collapses (war) to maintain the current (flow of money-energy). Other large
alternatives to war as economic inductors or economic flywheels are an
open-ended social welfare program, or an enormous (but fruitful) open-ended
space program. The problem with stabilizing the economic system is that
there is too much demand on account of (1) too much greed and (2) too much
population. This creates excessive economic inductance which which can only
be balanced with economic capacitance (true resources or value-e.g., in
goods or services).

The social welfare program is nothing more than an open-ended credit
balance system which creates a false capital industry to give nonproductive
people a roof over their heads and food in their stomachs. This can be
useful, however, because the recipients become state property in return for
the "gift", a standing army for the elite. For he who pays the piper picks
the tune. Those who get hooked on the economic drug, must go to the elite
for a fix. In this, the method of introducing large amounts of stabilizing
capacitance is by borrowing on the future credit of the world. This is a
fourth law of motion: onset, and consists of performing an action and
leaving the system before the reflected reaction returns to the point of
action; a delayed reaction. The means of surviving the reaction is by
changing the system before the reaction can return. By these means,
politicians become popular in their own time and the public pays for it
later. The same thing is achieved by a government by printing money beyond
the limit of the gross national product, an economic process called
inflation. This puts a large quantity of money in the hands of the public
and maintains a balance against their greed, creates a false
self-confidence in them and, for awhile, stays the wolf from the door. They
must eventually resort to war to balance the account, because war
ultimately is merely the act of destroying the creditor, and the
politicians are the publicly hired hit men that justify the act to keep the
responsibility and blood off the public conscience (see section on consent
factors and socio-economic structuring). If the people really cared about
their fellow man, they would control their appetites (greed, procreation,
etc...) so that they would not have to operate on a credit or welfare
social system which steals from the worker to satisfy to the bum. Since
most of the general public will not exercise restraint, there are only two
alternatives to reduce the economic inductance of the system:

(l) Let the populace bludgeon each other to death in war, which will only
result in a total destruction of the living earth.

(2) Take control of the world by use of economic "silent weapons" in a form
of quiet warfare": reduce the economic inductance of the world to a safe
level by a process of benevolent slavery and genocide.

The latter option has been taken as the obviously better option. At this
point it should be crystally clear to the reader why absolute secrecy about
the silent weapons is necessary. The general public refuses to improve it's
own mentality and it's faith in it's fellow man. It has become a herd of
proliferating barbarians, and, so to speak, a blight on the face of the
earth. They do not care enough about economic science to learn why they
have not been able to avoid war despite religious morality, and their
religious or self-gratifying refusal to deal with earthly problems renders
the solution of the earthly problem unreachable by them. It is left for
those few who are truly willing to think and survive as the fittest, to
solve the problem for themselves as the few who really care. Otherwise,
exposure of the silent weapons would destroy our only hope of preserving
the seed of future true humanity.

The Household Industry

The industries of finance (banking), manufacturing, and government, real
counterparts of the pure industries of capital, goods, and services, are
easily defined because they are generally logically structured. Because of
this their processes can be described mathematically and their technical
coefficients can be easily deduced. This, however, is not the case with the
service industry known as the household industry.

Household Models

The problem which a theoretical economist faces is that the consumer
preferences of any household is not easily predictable and the technical
coefficients of any one household tend to be a nonlinear, very complex, and
variable function of income, prices, etc. Computer information derived from
the use of the universal product code in conjunction with credit card
purchase as an individual household identifier could change this state of
affairs, but the U.P.C. method is not yet available on a national or even a
significant regional scale. To compensate for this data deficiency, an
alternate indirect approach of analysis has been adopted known as economic
shock testing. This method, widely used in the aircraft manufacturing
industry, develops an aggregate statistical sort of data. Applied to
economics, this means that all the households in one region or in the whole
nation are studied as a group or class rather than individually, and the
mass behavior rather than individual behavior is used to discover useful
estimates of the technical coefficients governing the economic structure of
the hypothetical single-household industry. One method of evaluating the
technical coefficients of the household industry depends on shocking the
prices of a commodity and noting the changes in the sales of all the

Economic Shock Testing

In recent times, the application of operations research to the study of the
public economy has been obvious for anyone that understands the principles
of shock testing. In the shock testing of an aircraft frame, the recoil
impulse of firing a gun mounted on that airframe causes shock waves in that
structure which tell aviation engineers the conditions under which parts of
the airplane or the whole airplane or it's wings will start to vibrate or
flutter like a guitar string, a flute reed, or a tuning fork, and
disintegrate or fall apart in flight.

Economic engineers achieve the same result in studying the behavior of the
economy and the consumer public by carefully selecting a staple commodity
such as beef, coffee, gasoline, or sugar, and then causing a sudden change
in it's price or availability, thus kicking everybody's budget and buying
habits out of shape, and then observe the shock waves which result by
monitoring the changes in advertising, prices, and sales of that and other

The objective of such studies is to acquire the know-how to set the public
economy into a predictable state of motion or change, even a controlled
self-destructive state of motion which will convince the public that
certain "expert" people should take control of the money system and
reestablish security (rather than liberty and justice) for all. When the
subject citizens are rendered unable to control their financial affairs,
they, of course, become totally enslaved, a source of cheap labor.

Not only the prices of commodities, but also the availability of labor can
be used as a means of shock testing. Labor strikes deliver excellent test
shocks to an economy, especially in the critical service areas of trucking
(transportation), communication, public utilities (energy, water, garbage
collection), etc. By shock testing, it is found that there is a direct
relationship between the availability of money flowing in an economy and
the psychological outlook and response of the masses of people dependent
upon that availability. For example, there is a measurable quantitative
relationship between the price of gasoline and the probability that a
person would experience a headache, feel the need to watch a violent movie,
smoke a cigarette, or go to the tavern for a mug of beer.

It is most interesting that, by observing and measuring the economic modes
by which the public tries to run from their problems and escape from
reality, and by applying the mathematical theory of operations research, it
is possible to program computers to predict the most probable combination
of created events (shocks) which will bring about a complete control and
subjugation of the public economy (by shaking the plum tree).

Introduction To Economic Amplifiers

Economic amplifiers are the active components of economic engineering. The
basic characteristic of any amplifier (mechanical, electrical, or economic)
is that it receives an input control signal and delivers energy from an
independent energy source to a specified output terminal in a predictable
relationships to that input control signal. The simplest form of economic
amplifier is a device called advertising.

If a person is spoken to by a TV. Advertiser as if he were a
twelve-year-old, then, due to suggestibility, he will, with a certain
probability, respond or react to that suggestion with the uncritical
response of a twelve-year-old and will reach into his economic reservoir
and deliver it's energy to buy that product on impulse when he passes it in
the store. An economic amplifier may have several inputs and outputs. It's
response might be instantaneous or delayed. It's circuit symbol might be a
rotary switch if it's options are exclusive, qualitative, "go" or "no go",
or it might have it's parametric input/output relationships specified by a
matrix with internal energy sources represented.

Whatever it's form might be, it's purpose is to govern the flow of energy
>from  a source to an output sink in direct relationship to an input control
signal. For this reason, it is called an active circuit element or
component. Economic amplifiers fall into classes called strategies. And, in
comparison with electronic amplifiers, the specific internal functions of
an economic amplifier are called logistical instead of electrical.

Therefore, economic amplifiers not only deliver power gain but also, in
effect, are used to cause changes in the economic circuitry. In the design
of an economic amplifier we must have some idea of

at least five functions, which are:

(1) the available input signals,

(2) the desired output-control objectives,

(3) the strategic objective,

(4) the available economic power sources

(5) the logistical options

The process of defining and evaluating these factors and incorporating the
economic amplifier into an economic system has been popularly called game
theory. The design of an economic amplifier begins with the specification
of the power level of the output, which can range from personal to
national. The second condition is accuracy of response, i.e.., How
accurately the output action is a function of the input commands. High gain
combined with strong feedback helps to deliver the required precision. Most
of the error will be in the data input signal. Personal input data tends to
be specific, while national input data tends to be statistical.

Short List Of Inputs

Questions to be answered: Standard of living: General sources of

(1) what (4) how (1) food (1) telephone taps (3) analysis of garbage

(2) when (5) why (2) clothing (2) surveillance (4) behavior of children

(3) where (6) who (3) shelter in school

(4) transportation

Social contacts, family The Personal Paper Trail Liabilities:

(1) telephone--itemized record of calls (1) checking accounts (1) creditors

(2) family--marriage certificates, birth certificates, etc. (2) credit card
purchases (2) enemies- see legal

(3) friends, associates, etc. (3) "tagged" credit card purchases- (3) loans

(4) membership in organizations (of products bearing the U.P.C..) (4)
consumer credit

(5) political affiliation

Assets: (1) checking accounts Government sources (ploys*): Government
sources (via intimidation)

(2) savings accounts (1) welfare (1) Internal Revenue Service

(3) real estate (2) social security (2) O.S.H.A.

(4) business (3) U.S.D.A.. Surplus food (3) census bureau

(5) automobile, etc. (4) doles (4) etc.

(6) safety deposit at bank (5) grants Other government sources-
surveillance of US mail.

(7) stock market (6) subsidies

*(The principle of this ploy: the citizen will almost always make the
collection of information easy if he can operate on the "free sandwich"
principle of "eat now, pay later")

Habit Patterns--Programming

Strengths and weaknesses: Methods of coping; adaptability-behavior:

(1) activities, (sports, hobbies, etc.) (1) consumption of alcohol

(2) crime record-see "legal" (anger, fear, etc.- crime record) (2)
consumption of drugs

(3) hospital records (drug sensitivities, reaction to pain, etc.) (3)

(4) psychiatric records (fears. angers, disgusts, adaptability, (4)
religious factors influencing behavior

reactions to stimuli, violence, suggestibility or hypnosis, (5) other
methods of escaping reality

pain, pleasure, love, and sex)

Payment modus operandi (m.o.) pay on time, etc.: Banks and credit bureaus:

(1) payment of telephone bills (1) credit information

(2) energy purchases (electric, gas, etc.) (2) payment information

(3) water purchases

(4) repayment of loans Miscellaneous sources:

(5) house payments (1) polls and surveys

(6) automobile payments (2) publications

(7) payments on credit cards (3) telephone records

(4) energy and utility purchases

Political Sensitivity Legal Inputs-Behavioral Control National Input

(1) beliefs (excuses for investigation, search, arrest, Business sources
(via I.R.S., etc.)

(2) contacts or employment of force to modify behavior) (1) prices of

(3) position (1) court records (2) sales

(4) strengths/weaknesses (2) police records-N.C.I.C. (3) investments in

(5) projects/activities (3) driving record (a) stocks/inventory

(4) reports made to police (b) production tools and machinery

(5) insurance information (c) buildings and improvement

(6) anti-establishment acquaintances (d) the stock market

Short List Of Outputs

Outputs--create controlled situations--manipulation of the economy,

hence society-control by control of compensation and income.


 (1) allocates opportunities           (17) controls advertising
 (2) destroys opportunities            (18) controls media contact

 (3) controls the economic environment (19) controls material available
                                       for T.V. Viewing
 (4) controls the availability of raw  (20) disengages attention from
 materials                             real issues
 (5) controls capital                  (21) engages emotions

 (6) controls bank rates               (22) creates disorder, chaos, and
 (7) controls the inflation of         (23) controls the design of more
 currency                              probing tax forms
 (8) controls possession of property   (24) controls surveillance

 (9) controls industrial capacity      (25) controls the storage of
                                       (26) develops psychological
 (10) controls manufacturing           analysis and profiles on
 (11) controls the availability of
 goods (commodities)                   (27) controls legal functions
 (12) controls the prices of
 commodities                           (28) controls sociological factors
 (13) controls services, the labor
 force, etc.                           (29) controls health options
 (14) controls payments made
 government officials                  (30) preys on weaknesses
 (15) controls the legal functions     (31) cripples strengths
 (16) controls the personal data files
 -uncorrectable by party slandered     (32) leaches wealth and substance

Table Of Strategies

 Do this:                       to get this:
 Keep the public ignorant       Less public organization
 Maintain access to control     Required reaction to outputs (prices,
 points for feedback (prices)   sales)
 Create preoccupation           Lower defenses
 Stabilize the consent          Simplify coefficients
 Attack the family unit         Control over education of young
 Give less cash and more credit
 and doles                      More self-indulgence and more data
 Attack the privacy of the
 church                         Destroy faith in this sort of government
 Social conformity              Computer programming simplicity
 Proper timing                  Less data shift and blurring
 Maximize control               Minimum resistance to control

 Collapse of currency           Destroy the faith of american people in
                                each other

 Tighten control of variables   Simpler computer input data, greater

 Minimize the tax protest       Maximum economic data, minimum enforcement

 Establish boundary conditions  Problem simplicity/solutions of
                                differential and difference equations

Diversion, The Primary Strategy

Experience has proven that the simplest method of securing a silent weapon
and gaining control of the public is to keep the public undisciplined and
ignorant of basic systems principles on the one hand, while keeping them
confused, disorganized, and distracted with matters of no real importance
on the other hand. This is achieved by: (1) Disengaging their minds;
sabotaging their mental activities providing a low quality program of
public education in logic, mathematics, systems design and economics;
discouraging technical creativity. (2) Engaging their emotions, increasing
their self-indulgence and their indulgence in emotional or physical
activities, by: (a) unrelenting emotional affrontations and attacks (mental
and emotional rape) by way of a constant barrage of sex violence, and wars
in the media, especially the T.V. and the newspapers. (b) Giving them what
they desire-in excess-"junk food for thought"- and depriving them of what
they really need. (3) Rewriting history and law and subjecting the public
to the deviant creation, thus being able to shift their thinking from
personal needs to highly fabricated outside priorities.

These preclude their interest in and discovery of the silent weapons of
social automation technology. The general rule is that there is profit in
confusion; the more confusion, the more profit. Therefore, the best
approach is to create problems, then offer the solutions.

Diversion Summary

Schools: Keep the young public ignorant of real mathematics, real
economics, real law, and real history.

Entertainment: Keep public entertainment below a sixth-grade level.

Work: Keep the public busy, busy, busy, with no time to think: back on the
farm with the other animals.

Media: Keep the adult public diverted away from the real social issues, and
captivated by matters of no real importance

Consent, The Primary Victory

A silent weapon operates upon data obtained from a docile public by legal
(but not always lawful) force. Much information is made available to silent
weapon systems programmers through the I.R.S. (see Studies In The Structure
Of The American Economy for an I.R.S. Source list). This information
consists of the enforced delivery of well-organized data contained in
federal and state tax forms collected, assembled, and submitted by slave
labor provided by taxpayers and employers. Furthermore, the number of such
forms submitted to the I.R.S. is a useful indicator of public consent. An
important factor in strategic decision making. Other sources of data are
given in the short list of inputs, consent coefficients-numerical feedback
indicating victory status. Psychological basis: when the government is able
to collect tax and seize private property without just compensation it is
an indication that the public is ripe for surrender and is consenting to
enslavement and legal encroachment. A good and easily quantified indicator
of harvest time is the number of public citizens who pay income tax despite
an obvious lack of reciprocal or honest service from the government.

Amplification Energy Sources

The next step in the process of designing an economic amplifier is
discovering the energy sources. The energy sources which support any
primitive economic system are, of course, a supply of raw materials, and
the consent of the people to labor and consequently assume a certain rank,
level, or class in the social structure; i.e., To provide labor at various
levels in the pecking order. Each class, in guaranteeing it's own level of
income, controls the class immediately below it. Hence preserves the class
structure. This provides stability and security, but also government from
the top.

As time goes on and communication and education improve the lower class
elements of the social labor structure become knowledgeable and envious of
the good things that the upper class members have. They also begin to
attain knowledge of energy systems and the ability to enforce their rise
through the class structure.

This threatens the sovereignty of the elite. If this rise of the lower
classes can be postponed long enough, the elite can achieve energy
dominance, and labor by consent no longer will hold a position of an
essential economic energy source.

Until such energy dominance is absolutely established, the consent of the
people to labor and let others handle their affairs must be taken into
consideration, since failure to do so could cause the people to interfere
in the final transfer of energy sources to the control of the elite. It is
essential to recognize that at this time, public consent is still an
essential key to the release of energy in the process of economic
amplification. Therefore, consent as an energy release mechanism will now
be considered.


The successful application of a strategy requires a careful study of inputs
outputs, the strategy connected with inputs and outputs and the available
energy sources to fuel the strategy. This study is called logistics. A
logistical problem is studied at the elementary level first, and then
levels of greater complexity are studied as a synthesis of elementary
factors. This means that a given system is analyzed, i.e., Broken down into
it's subsystems, and these in turn are analyzed, until, by this process,
one arrives at the logistical "atom", the individual.

The Artificial Womb

>From  the time a person leaves it's mother's womb, it's every effort is
directed towards building, maintaining, and withdrawing into artificial
wombs, various sorts of substitute protective devices or shells. The
objective of these artificial wombs is to provide a stable environment for
both stable and unstable activity; to provide a shelter for the
evolutionary processes of growth and maturity i.e., Survival; to provide
security for freedom and to provide defensive protection for offensive
activity. This is equally true of both the general public and the elite.
However, there is a definite difference in the way each of these classes go
about the solution of problems.

The Political Structure Of A Nation--Dependency

The primary reason why the individual citizens of a country create a
political structure is a subconscious wish or desire to perpetuate their
own dependency relationship of childhood. Simply put, they want a human god
to eliminate all risk from their life, pat them on the head, kiss their
bruises, put a chicken on every dinner table, clothe their bodies, tuck
them into bed at night, and tell them that everything will be alright when
they wake up in the morning.

This public demand is incredible, so that the human god, the politician,
meets incredibility with incredibility by promising the world and
delivering nothing. So who is the bigger liar? The public or the
"godfather"? This public behavior is surrender born of fear, laziness, and
expediency. It is the basis of the welfare state as a strategic weapon,
useful against a disgusting public.


Most people want to be able to subdue and/or kill other human beings which
disturb their daily lives. But they do not want to have to cope with the
moral and religious issues which such an overt act on their part might
raise. Therefore, they assign the dirty work to others (including their own
children) so as to keep the blood off their own hands. They rave about the
humane treatment of animals and then sit down to a delicious hamburger from
a whitewashed slaughterhouse down the street and out of sight. But even
more hypocritical, they pay taxes to finance a professional association of
hit men collectively called politicians, and then complain about corruption
in government.


Again, most people want to be free to do things (to explore, etc.) But they
are afraid to fail. The fear of failure is manifested in irresponsibility,
and especially in delegating those personal responsibilities to others
where success is uncertain or carries possible or created liabilities (law)
which the person is not prepared to accept. They want authority (root word,
author), but they will not accept responsibility or liability. So they hire
politicians to face reality for them.


The people hire politicians so that the people can:

(1) obtain security without managing it

(2) obtain action without thinking about it

(3) inflict theft, injury, and death upon others without having to
contemplate either life or death

(4) avoid responsibility for their own intentions

(5) obtain the benefits of reality and science without exerting themselves
in the discipline of facing or learning either of these things.

They give the politicians the power to create and manage a war machine to:

(1) provide for the survival of the nation/womb

(2) prevent the encroachment of anything upon the nation/womb

(3) destroy the enemy that threatens the nation/womb

(4) destroy those citizens of their own country who do not conform for the
sake of stability of the nation/womb.

Politicians hold many quasi-military jobs, the lowest being the police
which are soldiers, the attorneys and C.P.A.s next who are spies and
saboteurs (licensed), and the judges who shout the orders and run the
closed union military shop for whatever the market will bear. The generals
are industrialists. The "presidential" level of commander-in-chief is
shared by the international bankers. The people know that they have created
this farse and financed it with their own taxes (consent), but they would
rather knuckle under than be the hypocrite. Thus, a nation becomes divided
into two distinct parts, a docile sub-nation, and a political sub-nation.
The political sub-nation remains attached to the docile sub-nation,
tolerates it, and leaches it's substance until it grows strong enough to
detach itself and then devour it's parent.

System Analysis

In order to create meaningful computerized economic decisions about war,
the primary economic flywheel, it is necessary to assign concrete
logistical values to each element of the war structure- personnel and
material alike. This process begins with a clear and candid description of
the subsystems of such a structure. Few efforts of human behavior
modification are more remarkable or more effective than that of the
socio-military institution known as the draft. The primary purpose of a
draft or other such institution is to instill, by intimidation, in the
young males of a society the uncritical conviction that the government is
omnipotent. He is soon taught that a prayer is slow to reverse what a
bullet can do an instant. Thus a man trained in a religious environment for
eighteen-years can, by this instrument of the government, be broken down,
be purged of his fantasies and delusions in a matter of mere months. Once
that conviction is instilled, all else becomes easy to instill. Even more
interesting is the process by which a young man's parents, who purportedly
love him, can be induced to send him off to war to his death. Although the
scope of this work will not allow this matter to be expanded in full
detail, nevertheless, a coarse overview will be possible and can serve to
reveal those factors which must be included in some numerical form in a
computer analysis of social and war systems.

We begin with a tentative definition of the draft. The draft (selective
service, etc) is an institution of compulsory collective sacrifice and
slavery, devised by the middle-aged and the elderly for the purpose of
pressing the young into doing the public dirty work. It further serves to
make the young as guilty as the elders, thus making criticism of the elders
by the youth less likely (generational stabilizer). It is marketed and sold
to the public under the label of "patriotic-national" service. Once a
candid economic definition of the draft is achieved, that definition is
used to outline the boundaries of the structure called a human value
system, which in turn is translated into the terms of game theory. The
value of such a slave laborer is given in a table of human values, a table
broken down into categories by intellect, experience, post-service job
demand, etc. Some of these categories are ordinary and can be tentatively
evaluated in terms of the value of certain jobs for which a known fee
exists. Some jobs are harder to value because they are unique to the
demands of social subversion, for an extreme example: the value of a
mother's instruction to her daughter, causing that daughter to put certain
behavioral demands upon a future husband ten or fifteen years hence; thus,
by suppressing his resistance to a perversion in government, making it
easier for a banking cartel to buy the state of New York in, say, twenty

Such a problem leans heavily upon the observations and data of wartime
espionage and many types of psychological testing. But crude mathematical
models (algorithms, etc) can be devised, if not to predict, at least to
predetermine these events with maximum certainty. What does not exist by
natural cooperation is thus enhanced by calculated compulsion. Human beings
are machines, levers which may be grasped and turned, and there is little
real difference between automating a society and automating a shoe factory.
These derived values are variable. It is necessary to use a current table
of human values for computer analysis. These values are given in true
measure rather than U.S. Dollars, since the latter is unstable, being
presently inflated beyond the production of national goods and services so
as to give the economy a false kinetic energy ("paper" inductance). The
silver value is stable, it being possible to buy the same amount with a
gram of silver today as could be bought in 1920. Human value measured in
silver units changes slightly due to changes in production technology.


Factor I: As in every social system approach, stability is achieved only by
understanding and accounting for human nature (action/reaction patterns). A
failure to do so can be, and usually is, disastrous. As in other human
social schemes, one form or another of intimidation (or incentive) is
essential to the success of the draft. Physical principles of action and
reaction must be applied to both internal and external subsystems. To
secure the draft, individual brainwashing/programming in both the family
unit and the peer group must be engaged and brought under control.

Factor II--father: The man of the household must be housebroken to ensure
that junior will grow up with the right social training and attitudes. The
advertising media, etc., are engaged to see to it that the father-to-be is
"pussy-whipped" before or by the time he is married. He is taught that he
either conforms to the social notch cut out for him or his sex life will be
hobbled and his tender companionship will be zero. He is made to see that
women demand security more than logical, principled, or honorable behavior.
By the time that son must go off to war, father, with jelly for a backbone,
will slam a gun into junior's hand before the father will risk the censure
of his peers, or make a hypocrite of himself by crossing the investment he
has in his own personal opinion or self-esteem. Junior will go off to war
or father will be embarrassed. So junior will go off to war, the true
purpose notwithstanding.

Factor III--mother: The female element of society is ruled by emotion first
and logic second. In the battle between logic and imagination, imagination
always wins, fantasy prevails, maternal instinct dominates so that the
child comes first and the future comes second. A woman with a newborn baby
is too starry-eyed to see a wealthy man's cannon fodder or a cheap source
of slave labor. A woman must, however, be conditioned to accept the
transition to "reality" when it comes, or sooner. As the transition becomes
more difficult to manage, the family unit must be carefully disintegrated,
and state-controlled public education and state-operated child-care centers
must become more common and legally enforced so as to begin the detachment
of the child from the mother and father at an earlier age. Inoculation of
behavioral drugs can speed the transition of the child (manditory).
Caution: a woman's impulsive anger can override her fear. An irate woman's
power must never be underestimated, and her power over a "pussy-whipped"
husband must likewise never be underestimated. It got women the vote in

Factor IV--junior: The emotional pressure of self-preservation during time
of war and the self-serving attitude of the common herd that have the
option of avoiding the battlefield- if junior can be persuaded to go- is
all of the pressure finally necessary to propel Johnny off to war. Their
quiet blackmailings of him are the threats:"no sacrifice, no friends, no
glory, no girlfriends".

Factor V--sister: And what about junior's sister? She is given all the good
things of life by her father. And is taught to expect the same from here
future husband, regardless of the price.

Factor VI--cattle: Those who will not use their brain are no better off
than those with no brains, and so this mindless school of jellyfish,
father, mother, son, and daughter, become useful beasts of burden, and
trainers of the same.

(end of excerpt)

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Leslie M. Scott, 33 degree

Sovereign Grand Inspector General in Oregon

Address before Multnomah Council of Kadosh, at Portland, Ore.

Old as philosophy is the phrase, "To know is to live." We find that
thought in the Ancient Mysteries, running back thousands of years.

To know, said the sages of antiquity, is to believe in the unity of God,
to purify the soul, to prepare for the future life, and to do our duty
to our fellow men.  So said Zarathustra, Socrates and the Man of
Nazareth; the authors of Jewish and Christian Scriptures; the authors of
Masonic doctrine; the thinkers and reformers of every age, and Albert
Pike, the formulator of the Scottish Rite.

To know is to live.  Men seek to know, so that they may live wiser,
better and happier.  "Seek and ye shall find." (Luke XI:9.)

The phrase "live and learn" is a cynical reversal of words. Better for
spiritual and material progress is first to learn, so that one may
thereafter live; and "keep himself unspotted from the world." (James

The ancients practised a moral science which the Greeks, 2,500 years
ago, called Mysteries.  The word generically meant to close the eyes and
mouth, to hide.  The hidden things inspired the Apostle Paul, who was
versed in the Mysteries, to say: "For the things which are seen are
temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal." (2 Cor. IV:

The science seems to have originated in India, and to have spread to
Ethiopia, Egypt, Phoenicia, Greece, Persia, Assyria, Rome, Britain and
Scandinavia.  It consisted originally of secret religious rite's.  The
Egyptians made much of them, and attached legends to their supreme gods
Osiris, the father, Horus, the son, and Isis, the spirit.  These legends
were imitated in the religious and philosophical lore of the peoples of
antiquity, including the Goths and Scandinavians of Northern Europe, and
the Druids of Britain.  The early Christians used them in their
sacramental rites, especially as to the eucharistic elements of Christ,
the communion, and the exclusion of strangers and persecutors.

Says Albert Pike: "Originally, the Mysteries were meant to be the
beginning of a new life of reason and virtue.  The initiated, or
esoteric, companions were taught the doctrine of the One Supreme God,
the theory of death and eternity, the hidden mysteries of nature, the
prospect of the ultimate restoration of the soul to that state of
perfection from which it had fallen, its immortality, and the states of
reward and punishment after death.  The uninitiated were deemed profane,
unworthy of public employment or private confidence, sometimes,
proscribed as atheists, and certain of everlasting punishment beyond the

"The veil of secrecy was impenetrable, sealed by oaths and penalties,
the most tremendous and appalling.

"It was by initiation only, that a knowledge of the hieroglyphics
(Egyptian) could be obtained, with which the walls, columns and ceilings
of the Temples were decorated....

"The ceremonies were performed at dead of night ... with every appliance
that could alarm and excite the candidate. . . .

"The early Christians, taught by the founder of their religion, but in
greater perfection, those primitive truths that from the Egyptians had
passed to the Jews, and been preserved among the latter by the Essenes,
received also the institution of the Mysteries; adopted as their object
the building of the symbolic Temple, preserving the old Scriptures of
the Jews as their sacred book, and as the fundamental law, which
furnished the new veil of initiation with the Hebraic words and
formulas, that, corrupted a nd disfigured by time and ignorance, appear
in many of our degrees....

"The formula which the primitive [Christian] church pronounced at the
moment of celebrating its Mysteries, was this: 'Depart, ye profane! Let
the catechumens [neophytes] and those who have not been admitted or
initiated, go forth'."

The unity of design of the Mysteries of all lands shows their common
origin.  They contained secret knowledge and rites of secret worship.
At first religious, they became political and promotive of caste, and
degenerated into charlatanry.  They were imitated in public pageants.
The Rose Festival of Portland uses some of the imitations, as in the
obligation of Rosaria; likewise, the Mardi Gras of New Orleans.  Such
pageants were common in Elusinian and Orphic Greece.  But the real
Mysteries were exclusive and secretive to their devotees and initiates.
The obligations and penalties were solemn and harrowing.

The rites contained not only moral precepts and doctrines of Deity, the
soul, and future life, but also knowledge of astronomy, the harmonious
and regular procession of the stars and the seasons, and the precision
of numbers and mathematics.

They taught lessons of life, death and after-life; they were funereal,
heroic, dramatic, as in our Mysteries of Hiram.  To the Egyptians, Hiram
was Osiris; to the Persians, Mithras; to the Greeks, Dionysus; to the
Christians, the Man of Nazareth.  Hiram is Khuram, Hebrew, meaning Noble
Born, higher type of humanity; "exemplar of what man may and should
become, in the course of ages ... ; gifted with a glorious intellect, a
noble soul, a fine organization, and a perfectly balanced moral being
... ; the possi bility of the race made real."

Cicero said of the Mysteries: "For a wild and ferocious life, [they]
have substituted humanity and urbanity of manners.  It is with good
reason they use the term initiation; for it is through them that we in
reality have learned the first principles of life; and they not only
teach us to live in a manner more consoling and agreeable, but they
soften the pains of death by the hope of a better life hereafter."

Plato, 400 B. C., said that the object was to reestablish the soul in
its primitive purity; the Roman philosopher, 500 years later, Epictetus,
to uphold the "instruction of man and the correction of morals."

Aristotle said the Mysteries were the most valuable of all religious
institutions; Socrates, that they brought to the dying the most glorious
hopes for eternity.

The Mysteries were practised in Rome until 400 A.D.; in Athens, until
700 A.D.; in Wales and Scotland, until 1100 A.D. They contained
conceptions that have deeply affected the religious history of the
world.  In Greece they were given in four stages:

(1) Preliminary purification;
(2) Communication of mystic knowledge;
(3)  Revelation of holy things;
(4) Crowning of the mystic as a privileged person.

The Homeric poems, 800 B.C., speak of the comfort brought to the
afflicted.  Modern Catholics are said to receive similar consolation
>from  the elevation of the Host at Mass, which is imitative of the
Mysteries.  The early Christians adopted the mass of Mithras of the
Persian Mysteries, and thence took their sacraments and their rites of
confirmation.  The priests of Mithras used confession and baptism, and
promised future life of happiness or misery; they celebrated the
oblation of bread, image of resurrect ion, and gave extreme unction.

Pythagoras, 500 B.C., had three Mystery Degrees, for which a preparation
of five years of abstinence and silence was required.  He was familiar
with the Mysteries of Egypt.  He taught Mathematics as an evidence of
God and His laws; grammar, rhetoric and logic to improve the reasoning
powers, and geometry, music and astronomy for useful knowledge.  He
taught also the omnipotence of God, the immortality of the soul,
truthfulness, silence, temperance, fortitude, prudence, justice, and
abstinence from vice.  Pa rticularly we owe the Fellowcraft instructions
to Pythagoras.  Plato elaborated the Pythagoras doctrines, one hundred
years later.

The Masonic Fraternity is the modern repository of the Mysteries.  As
used by us, they are shorn of mysticism and superstition, and are
retentive of spiritual and moral values, and doctrines of Divine unity
and harmony, and future life of the soul.  Mankind has made little or no
progress in spiritual and moral excellence in thousands of years, nor in
expression.  The Golden Rule seems as distant an ideal as when
pronounced by the founders of Christianity, and Confucianism, 500 B.C.

Masonry does not specify the type of future life, nor the dogma or
doctrine that is to be followed.  Blue Lodge Masonry pledges belief in
"future life," but not in "immortal life." Scottish Rite Masonry holds
the soul to be immortal, but does not postulate the soul's mode of
existence hereafter.

Some of our degrees are likened to degrees of the Ancient Mysteries.
That is to say, our degrees, in their ritual, use the ancient teachings
and symbolisms and ceremonials.  Other degrees of our series follow the
philosophy of the Ancient Mysteries.  We use Hebrew symbolisms and
discipline; the Druse combination of Hebrew, Mohammedan and Christian,
and the Christian symbolism, for Masonry is a faith universal, sharing
the beliefs that are common to all great religions, of God, future life,
earthly duty, an d personal rectitude.

The early Christians practised three degrees, based upon the Ancient
Mysteries. Some of ours have a similar sequence and present the essence
of Scottish Rite philosophy.

Ancient astronomers saw symbols in the stars; the circle, triangle,
square, parallelogram.  The Spring constellation of Taurus, the Bull,
ushered in the Blazing Star of Sirius, the three kinds of Orion, the
five Hyades and the seven Pleiades, signifying the mystic numbers 1, 3,
5, 7. The Nile began to rise, as our Columbia River does, in the
springtime; Osiris returned with Taurus at the Vernal Equinox to
regenerate the world, after being slain by Python, six months before, in
the constellation Scorpio, whi ch is opposite Taurus in the sky.

Masonic Lodges have many astronomical symbols from the Ancient
Mysteries; churches have them also.  The cross is astronomical, pointing
four directions to the universe.  The Bible makes many references to the
stars.  The Mysteries have permeated the great religions, and still live
in them.  The birth of the Christ was heralded by a star in the East.

We are Knights of the Brazen Serpent, because the serpent was an emblem
of reason, faith and repentance.  The pharaohs wore the serpent emblem
on their brow, as a symbol of their piety in the Mystery religion.

Have we moderns found a better way of explaining the soul's origin and
its advent to, and departure from, the body, than the ancients had? Are
the plain virtues better known now than then?

One of our degrees may be likened to the Master's Degree and to the
third degree of the early Christians, to their Degree of the Faithful,
in which their sacramental secrets were confined.  Our degree uses
Christian symbolisms and Christian forms of discipline, and leads to the
explanation of the Word, in the final Masonic Trinity: God, the Source
of All; His Thought conceiving the Universe; His Word, uttering the
Thought and becoming the Creator.  The manifestation, the revelation of
the Word is the Univer se: material, mental, spiritual.

The triple dogma has long been known in the sanctuaries of the sages,
and Masonry has other expressions of Trinity, such as Wisdom, Strength
(Force), Beauty (Harmony); Faith, Hope, Charity; Liberty, Equality,
Fraternity; also many references to other triads.

The search for the Word has engaged the great minds of the ages.  It is
a search for the Logos, the nature and purpose of the Divine Plan, for
spiritual life and light, by which to guide in the pathway of Truth.
Philosophers have variously struggled to define the Word.

To a Mason the Word is a synonym of the true nature of God, of wisdom,
intellect, of the soul of the universe.  It is the unuttered expression
of being and life that are in the Absolute.

The search is an allegory of attempts to find the Word.  In the allegory
are represented the general ignorance of the nature and attributes of
the true Deity, the worship of other deities, and faulty ideas of the
Great Architect.

We say the Word once found was lost.  That is part of the allegory.  The
writer of St. John's Gospel says: "In the beginning was the Word, and
the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Men have contrived one substitute definition after another.  And in this
atomic age they are finding new substitutes for their concepts.  We say
Masonry is a science of seeking and finding.  We have been told that the
substitute Word of the Master's third degree is Sanskrit, meaning, The
Holy Child, the Son of God.  The formulators of Masonry were Christians,
to whom the True Word was a synonym of Christ the Saviour.  We could go
on and on with substitutes for the Word, on which men have not been able
to jo in, and from which they have passed, one after another,

Such is the climax of the Mystery Degrees of the Scottish Rite,
paralleling the Craft Degrees and the Christian Degrees, and signifying
three steps or stages:

(1) Material: blindness, repentance, light.

(2) Intellectual: sympathy, justice, gratitude, veneration, geometry,
rule of harmony.

(3) Spiritual: rebirth, death, resurrection, faith, the New Law - Love
ye one another.

Masonry holds that justice and beneficence are divine attributes, shared
by imperfect man.  Evil, pain and sorrow are parts of the Divine
Harmony, to be balanced according to the Divine Plan, and not by human
creed or doctrine.

Says Albert Pike: "Masonry inculcates its old doctrine . . , that God is
One; that His Thought, uttered in His Word, created the Universe, and
preserves it by those Eternal Laws which are the expression of that
thought; that the Soul of Man, breathed into him by God, is immortal as
his thoughts are; that he is free to do evil or to choose good,
responsible for his acts and punishable for his sins; that all evil and
wrong and suffering are but temporary, the discords of one great
Harmony, and that in His goo d time they will lead by infinite
modulations to the great, harmonic, final chord and cadence of Truth,
Love, Peace and Happiness, that will ring forever and ever under the
arches of heaven, among all the stars and worlds, and in all souls of
men and angels."

This is the Masonic Creed, expressed in these four degrees:

"Believe in God's infinite benevolence, wisdom, and justice;

"Hope for the final triumph of good over evil, and for perfect harmony,
as the final result of all the concords and discords of the Universe;

"Be charitable, as God is, toward the unfaith, the errors, the follies
and the faults of men; for all make one great brotherhood."

And, by the revealing light of initiation, learn, know and live.

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Part 1 of 2

The Hour of the Time
Friday, June 7, 1996
"The Rose Cross"

COOPER:  You're listening to "The Hour of the Time."  I'm William Cooper.
Ladies and gentlemen, I guess about a month ago or maybe not that long -- I
don't really remember, to tell you the truth -- I began a broadcast well
after the half-way mark of the broadcast had gone by on the Rose Cross, and
the meaning of the rose upon the cross, and the Rose Cross Order.  And of
course, I didn't get very far before the broadcast was over.  So, I'm going
to start all over again tonight and we're going to do that now.  

I suggest you get pen and paper because this is one of those broadcasts that
you're going to want to take notes and you're going to want to remember.
And if you can't take notes, you can't remember, or the static or the
propagation is bad, then you can always order the tape.  

For non-members, they are $10.00.  For members they are $8.00.  If you don't
know whether you're a member or not, then you're not.  It's as simple as
that.  So you don't even need to call and ask.  And make money order payable to:
	P.O. Box 1970
	Eagar, AZ  85925

[MUSIC BREAK:  "The Rose," performed by Bette Midler]

The Rose Cross, the Rosicrucians, the Ancient Order of the Rosae Crucis, all
stem from the same origin.  The name of the organization _____ is an apt
illustration of the uncanny ability to interpret all things and make them fit.  

It happens that in the 13th century, a man named Christian Rosencrutz -- or
so they say -- began to bring out into the open teachings which hitherto had
been promulgated only in secret.  Christian Rosencrutz.  What a name to
conjure with!

And did he really exist?  From the depths of all of the research that we
have done here I can tell you it is extremely doubtful if any such man ever
lived, but was more possibly a creation of the secret order of the Mystery
Religion, stemming from ancient Babylon in order to create a reawakening in
the minds of the curious men and women emerging from what had been called
throughout history the Dark Ages.  He supposedly founded the mysterious
Order of Rosicrucians, or Rosae Crucis, with the object of throwing occult
light upon the misunderstood Christian religion.

Now, don't you think it's a little bit too coincidental that here is this
man, coming up with an ancient Christian religion -- or the religion of the
Christos -- the perfection of the soul through the adversities of the
crucifixion of life's trials and his name is 
Christian Rosencrutz?

Supposedly his religion was to explain the mystery of life and being from
the scientific standpoint in harmony with religion.  And this has always
been one of the goals of the Mysteries is to make some kind of a
reconciliation between science and religion -- or in language that you might
more readily understand, between Lucifer and God -- all of which it will be
seen might have been written by theosophical Rogers _____, all except for
the symbolical name, Christian Rosencrutz.

The Rosicrucians have taken the offense out of the cross and they call that
"esoteric Christianity." 

"The cross should not be interpreted as an emblem of suffering and shame,"
so reads the amazing account of this mystic Christianity, "but rather it is
the means of the perfection of the soul" -- the apotheosis of man, if you will. 

What does it stand for?  Well, you could ask Plato who was an initiate and
wrote, "The world soul is crucified."  With these words we are informed the
Greek philosopher gave out occult truth -- or so they say.  

And what is that truth?  That the cross is symbolical of the life currents
vitalizing the bodies of plants, animal, and man.  In other words, through
the living of life, through the learning of lessons, through the facing and
overcoming of adversity comes the perfection of the soul, the intellect, the
man.  It is symbolical of man's past evolution, present constitution, and
future development.  

And they call this the Christian religion?  Well, in fact, it is not, ladies
gentlemen.  This religion, in fact, existed long before the man that you
know as Jesus ever was born or walked upon this earth.  It is what we now
look back and call the Gnostic or Nazarene.

The mineral kingdom -- these people say -- enfolds all chemical substance of
whatever kind so that the cross of whatever material it is made is first
symbol of that kingdom.

The upright lower limb of the cross is a symbol of the plant kingdom,
because the currents of the group's spirits which give life to the plants
come from the center of the earth (or ghia -- the Mother) where these
group's spirits are located and reach out toward the periphery of our planet
and then into space.

Of course, you have to have a tremendous stretch of your imagination to
believe any of this and none of it can be proven.  It is like all religions,
ladies and gentlemen.  It is accepted as a matter of faith.

The upper limb of the cross is the symbol of man -- they say -- because the
life currents of the human kingdom pass downward from the sun -- (spelled
S-U-N), the 
manifestation of God's power to this earth -- through the vertical spine.
Thus, man is the inverted plant.  For as the plant takes its food through
the root, passing it upward, so does the man take his nourishment by way of
the head, passing it downward. 

I saw a commercial on television this evening that manifests this very
story.  It showed the brilliant sun and the moon and then it showed the
product being sold with a reflection in its perfectly polished hood and roof
of the inverted tree, roots stretched up to heaven for nourishment.  The
leaves and branches pointed down toward the earth.  You are being bombarded
with the symbology of this ancient mystery esoteric hidden religion every
day and you don't even know it.  I challenge you.  Watch for that commercial
and many, many others.

Remember, the sun is the manifestation of the generative force, the phallus,
the penis.  Without the sun or the generative force, no life could exist
upon this planet.  The moon ... well, let me go back to the sun for a
second.  The manifestation of this generative force in symbology on the
earth is the obelisk -- the Washington Monument, if you will.  The moon is
the reflective or receptive of the two -- the sun being the male, the moon
being the female reflecting the pure light of her master onto the earth.
The moon in symbology is represented by the reflecting pool.  

In Washington, D.C. you'll see the obelisk, the Washington Monument, and
then the reflecting pool long and narrow -- the Washington Monument being
the phallus or the penis, the reflecting pool being the feminine or the
vagina.  And they point directly toward the Oval Office in the White House
which is the egg from which are hatched the full body of adepts or Horus,
the Child, who will bring into being the New Order, the Golden Dawn.

[quiet laughter]  Have I... have I shaken your tree?  I certainly hope so.

The sun or the obelisk or the phallus is the doctrine.  

The moon or the reflecting pool or the vagina is the church.  

And Horus, the Child, represents the full body of the priesthood, the adepts
who will bring about the realization and the teaching of the doctrine of the
church of the hidden mystery religion of the worship of the sun.

Now, that's for the masses, ladies and gentlemen.  For these adepts, these
priests, do not believe that the sun is indeed God, but the manifestation of
God's power, the light.  But they also believe that the God of the Bible is
a corrupt, degenerate, cruel and inhumane God, and that that God is evil.  

Their God is the manifestation of light -- Lucifer, cast out of heaven for
challenging the authority of God, who became the ruler of the material
world.  And that is what they worship -- the material world, happiness,
wealth, money, perversion, temptations.  "Do as thou wilt shall be the whole
of the law."

The plant is chaste, pure, and passionless, and stretches its creative orb
into flower, chastely and unshamed toward the sun -- a thing of beauty and
delight.  Man turns his passion-filled generative organ toward the earth.
Man inhales the life-giving oxygen and exhales the poisonous carbon dioxide.
A plant takes the poison exhaled by man, building its body therefrom, and
returning to us the elixir of life, the cleansed oxygen.

Now, you can see how they can turn a phrase, a word -- how they can make
right wrong and wrong right -- very simply, ladies and gentlemen, because
they make man seem as if he is poisoning something.  But you see, oxygen is
poisonous to the plant.  What man is doing, the plant is doing, and that
makes a balance in nature.  If man did not exhale carbon dioxide -- which
their religion labels poison -- which the wonderful, beautiful green plants
inhale and purify and exhale oxygen, then the earth would be, of course,
destroyed.  What they don't tell you is if the opposite happened -- if there
were no men, if there were no animals -- if the plants inhaled the carbon
dioxide and exhaled oxygen, you would soon reach a point where the earth
would be in danger of consuming itself by fire and all living things would
perish into flame.  You see, because oxygen is a poison to the plant.

This deception and this kind of gobbledygook of backwards
looking-in-the-mirror-type reasoning exists today in the Green Party, in the
Sierra Club, in environmental wacko crowd.  Don't get me wrong.  There is
nothing, nothing at all bad about wanting to preserve the environment or
take care of our natural resources.  But not to the point of lies and
deceptions and just out and out idiocy.  It is the hallmark of these people
-- that they can look each other in the face, lie to each other, know that
they are lying to each other, and accept it and like each other and go about
their business.  I could never do that in a million years.  I don't know
about you.

They say that between the plant and the human kingdoms stands the animal
with the horizontal spine, and in the horizontal spine the life currents of
the animal group spirit play as they circle around the globe.  Therefore,
the horizontal limb of the cross is the symbol of the animal kingdom.  The
animal, which is symbolized by the horizontal limb of the cross, is between
plant and man.  Its spine is in horizontal position and through it play the
currents of animal group spirit which encircle the earth.   Were you aware
that this group spirit of all the animals is playing up and down your spine?

To keep him steadfast and true through adversity, the cross, or the Rose
Cross, holds aloft as an inspiration the glorious consummation in store for
him that overcometh -- remember what I told you? -- and points to Christ as
the star of hope.  And Christ, in their language, ladies and gentlemen, has
nothing to do with the Christ of your language.

See, they call Christ "the star of hope, the firstfruits who wrought that
choicest of all gems, the Philosopher's Stone, while inhabiting --
inhabiting -- the body of Jesus."  You see, to them, Jesus was not the Son
of God manifest in the flesh living and walking upon this earth.  Nope.  To
them, Christ is an office that can be held by anyone or everyone.  

And in the New Age, the goal is to become "Christed," to perfect your soul,
to discover the Philosopher's Stone, to become the Christ.  Or, as some
would believe, to be such a good person and have such a good clean body as a
temple that the Christ would choose to walk into your body and thus perform
his office amongst us here on earth.

This, then, interprets the Rosicrucian emblem -- the cross as well as the
star against which it stands -- while the garland of roses around the center
of the cross points to yet another symbolism.  In the form where it is
represented with a single rose in the center, it symbolizes the spirit
radiating from itself the four vehicles -- the dense, vital, and desire
bodies plus the mind, where the spirit is drawn into its instruments and
becomes the indwelling human spirit.

But there was a time when that condition did not obtain -- these people
believe -- a time when the three-fold spirit hovered above its vehicles and
was unable to enter.  Man did not have a soul.  And they believe that man
today does not have a soul.  But through the perfection of good works, man
realizes or discovers his soul.  The soul enters the body and through the
perfection of the soul, through facing the adversities of life and
overcoming and conquering and taking full advantage of the material world,
they become God.

It's the same doctrine that is taught in the Mormon Church, in Freemasonry,
and I could go on and on.  So many.  The Worldwide Church of God -- as you
heard on the tape -- they believe exactly the same thing.

Then the cross stood alone without the rose, symbolizing the condition which
prevailed in the early third of Atlantis.  This is another legend that they
believe in. 

There was even a time when the upper limb of the cross was lacking, and
man's constitution was represented by the Tau.  That was in the Limurian
epoch.  They also believe in that legend.  And they believe that in the
Limurian epoch man only had the dense, vital, and desire bodies, but lacked
the mind.  Then the animal nature was paramount.  Man followed desire
without reserve.  

And in still earlier time -- in the Hyperborean epoch -- he was also minus
the desire body and possessed only the dense and vital bodies.  Then man in
the making was like the plants -- chaste and void of desire.  At that time,
his constitution could not have been represented by a cross.  It was
symbolized by a straight shaft, a pillar.  

This is where all of the theory of evolution comes from, ladies and
gentlemen, right out of the Mysteries.  It is as ancient as man himself.  It
was not discovered by Charles Darwin.  It has been believed and promulgated
and passed down from father to son and mother to daughter through the secret
fraternal orders and mystery religions since the very beginning.

Thought and voice -- we are told further -- are both creative.  But the
selfish, dominating, creative faculty symbolized by the larynx at the cross
of head and body must give way to a less selfish creative force.  

It is here that the roses enter.

Now, the rose, like any other flower, is the generative organ of the plant.
Its green stem carries the colorless, passionless plant blood.  The
blood-red rose shows the passion-filled blood of the human race.  But in the
rose, the vital fluid is not sensuous.  It is chaste and pure.  Thus, it is
an excellent symbol, ladies and gentlemen, of the generative organ in the
pure and holy state to which man will attain when he has cleansed and
purified his blood of desire, when he has become chaste, pure, and
Christ-like -- or "Christed."  Or, to go even further, when he becomes as God.

Remember the promise of Lucifer in the Garden of Eden?  If you don't, go
back to your Bible and read it.  That's what this is all about.

Thus, we get the cross -- 
	the long limb representing the body; 
	the two horizontals, the two arms; and 
	the short upper limb, the head; 
with the circle of roses around the center instead of the larynx.  

Therefore, the Rosae Crucis looks ardently forward to the day when the roses
shall bloom upon the cross of humanity.  Therefore, the elder brothers greet
the aspiring soul with the words of the Rosicrucian greeting, and I quote:

"May the roses bloom upon your cross."

End quote.  And therefore, the greeting is given in the meetings of the
fellowship centers by the leader to the assembled students, probationers and
disciples, who respond to the greeting by saying, quote:

"And on yours also."

End quote.  The rose is the international symbol of socialism.  

One red rose was handed to everyone who attended the memorial service of the
victims of the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.  All
of the government officials who took part had a ceremony after the end of
the rescue and the clean-up and the razing and destruction of the building.
And they all placed one red rose upon a makeshift altar. 

Bill Clinton was photographed holding one red rosebud to his nose.  And in
his speech, he made the incredible statement, "...those who have

And I would remind you, ladies and gentlemen, is an intentional act for the
appeasement of the gods to ensure the success of your endeavor.  

When he made that statement, he was spilling the beans, but only for those
who understand the symbology, the esoteric language of the ancient
brotherhood.  It is all very profound for those who understand it.  Quite
esoteric -- which means hidden.

Imminently fitting -- the name of Christian Rosenkrutz of the 13th century.
Perhaps though the name was not quite as accidental as an outsider might
surmise.  We are told that this Mr. Rosenkrutz -- or rather the eagle
dwelling in him, the Christ within -- was already then a high spiritual
teacher.  His birth as Christian Rosenkrutz merely marked the beginning of a
new epoch of spiritual life in the western world.  And he has, since that
day, taken a new body when his successive vehicles have outlived their
usefulness or circumstances rendered it expedient that he change the scene
of his activities. 

He inspired Bacon's works, although through an intermediary -- they believe
-- and he enlightened the mystic Jacob Bohm.  He is also embodied today an
initiate of high degree, an active and potent factor in all affairs of the

But they say he is unknown to the world.  Of course.  Because if you try to
point him out, everyone would quickly discover that this whole concept is
one of the biggest frauds ever foisted upon mankind.


CONTINUED IN "The Rose Cross - 2 of 2"
Posted by Michele Moore



The Hour of the Time
Friday, June 7, 1996
"The Rose Cross"

Part 2 of 2


In accordance with all this symbolism, ladies and gentlemen, Christian
emblems of long standing are made to fit in.  This is also what they say. 

But if you really study the Christian religion, you will find that many of
these symbols existed long before Christ was even born, and actually do not
belong to the Christian religion at all, but were melded with the teachings
and the followers of Christ when Constantine made Christianity the official
religion of Rome in order to preserve the Roman empire, which then became
the Vatican. 

He melded the Roman pantheon of saints with the Christian religion; the
celebration of the sacrifice upon the altar; the rites -- the rites, ladies
and gentlemen -- of Ishtar in spring; and the celebration of the Winter
Solstice, which became Christian -- Christmas -- and all of these things
extended the role of the Roman empire for another 1,200 years as the emperor
became the Pope, and the empire became the Catholic Church.

In esotericism, the cross was never looked upon as an instrument of torture,
and it was not until the 6th century that the crucified Christ was shown in
pictures.  This is fact.  

Previous to that time, the symbol of the Christ was a cross and a lamb
resting on its foot to convey the idea that at the time when Christ was born
the sun at the vernal equinox crossed the equator in the sign of Aries, the
ram.  Some claimed that the vernal equinox at his birth was really in sight
of the sign of Pisces the fishes and that the symbol of our savior should
have been a fish.  It is in memory of that dispute that the bishop's miter
still takes the form of the head of a fish.

St. John evidently lacked this occult information and in his ignorance
interpreted the lamb in Old Testament style, as a sacrifice that takes away
the sin of the world.  And the early Christians -- who for fear of being
betrayed to the enemy drew a fish in the sand to see if there were an
understanding response -- interpreted the symbol of the fish like this,
ladies and gentlemen:  ICHTHUS -- the Greek for "fish" --  Iesous Ch - ristos.

Are you following me?

If you take ICHTHUS -- the Greek word for "fish" -- and break it down into
these parts:  
	I and add ESOUS (or Iesous); 
	CH and add RISTOS (for Christos); 
	TH and add EOU (theou); 
	S, add OTR.  

In effect, what you have when you pronounce the Greek word for "fish" or
draw the fish in the sand is "Jesus Christ, God's Son, Savior."

The explanation of the cross, however, contains sufficient hints at other
Rosicrucian or Rosae Crucis doctrines to launch us upon a more complete --
though ever so brief -- exposition of this complicated system of thought.
For we have heard of the various bodies of man, of many spirits, of
evolution through reincarnation, and of many races -- all believed in by
these people.  And I have exposed all of these beliefs right down to the
very basis foundation of these doctrines over many, many hours of broadcasts
of "The Hour of the Time."  

They believe there are seven worlds which together form the universe.  Each
one is amenable to laws which are practically inoperative in the other --
exactly the architecture of the myth of Atlantis.  And it comes right out of
the ancient eastern religions, specifically Hindu.

For instance, the laws of gravitation and of contraction and expansion to
which matter is subject in the physical -- or what they call the lowest
world -- do not exist in the next higher -- or what is known as the desire
-- world.  Neither is there heat or cold there.  

Each world is subdivided into seven regions or subdivisions of matter.  In
the physical world we have denser forms, namely solids, liquids and gases;
and also four ethers of varying densities.  And it is THIS that Plato was
exposing in his discussion and his elaboration upon the so-called ancient
city of Atlantis, which never, ladies and gentlemen, really existed.

But ether still remains a physical matter.  The four etherics together form
the etheric region.  Above all this is the Universal Spirit expressing
itself in the visible world as four great streams of life.  Remember the
four rivers at varying stages of development.  

This four-fold spiritual impulse molds the chemical matter of the earth into
variegated forms of the four kingdoms:  mineral, plant, animal, and man.
The etheric region of the physical world, according to these people, is as
tangible to the clairvoyant as are the solids, liquids, and gases of the
chemical region to ordinary people.

The clairvoyant, they say, sees four ethers -- chemical ether, life ether,
light ether, reflecting ether -- all of which science has proven without any
doubt do not exist.  

Rather than invent instruments to learn the secrets of nature, as does the
scientist, the occultist would develop the investigator himself.  And since
the occultist is the only one who ever sees these things, any challenge
becomes in their eyes a revelation of your status on a lower rung.  So
they've got all the bases covered.

Thus, they find that their senses or faculties may become the "open sesame"
in searching for truth.  This is why they are so wedded to the material
world.  Even in their search for spirituality it is only done through the
material world, through the desire body, through the five senses.

They say that the trained senses of the clairvoyant see clearly the
interaction between the physical and the etheric body of man.  For instance,
the chemical ether expels from the physical body of man the materials inside
which are unfit for use -- negative pull -- and also assimilates that which
can be incorporated into the body -- positive pull.  

And they forget to tell you the same thing happens with plants and microbes
and birds.

The life ether, also working through a positive and a negative pull, takes
care of the forces of propagation -- the positive working in the female
during the period of gestation, and the negative pull of life enabling the
male to produce semen.

What absolute gobbledegook!  But they thrive on this.  

They believe that light ether negatively operates through the senses,
manifesting the passive functions of sight, hearing, feeling, tasting,
smelling.  And it also builds and nourishes the eye.  Positively it is the
avenue of the forces that circulate the blood.  In plants and animals light
ether is responsible for color.

And then there is the reflecting ether.  It has in it the reflections of the
memory of nature, as the giant ferns of the childhood of the earth have left
their pictures in the coal beds.  I'm sure those giant ferns were acting as
film or were acting as the camera and the light, when they lay down upon the
film of some ancient mud river, hoping to leave their picture for those of
us in the future.

More absolute ridiculosity.  ... if there is such a word.  Probably not.
But my word "ridiculosity" is just as good as their nonsense.

They say that no clairvoyant likes to read in this book of memory as the
pictures are blurred.  I bet they are!  Spiritist mediums and psychometers
may be forced to do that sort of thing.  The Rosicrucian clairvoyant rises
to greater heights, knowing that in higher worlds nature has better memories.

And all this is to cover the fact that if you ask them what the memory tells
them, this is their way out.

The desire world, like the physical world and like every other realm of
nature, according to these people, has the seven subdivisions, called
regions -- just like the city of Atlantis.  But it does not have the four
great divisions of chemical, etc. -- desire stuff -- in the desire world,
consisting through its seven subdivisions and regions as material for the
embodiment of desire.

The desires, wishes, passions, and feelings of man express themselves
through these seven regions of desire matter which is only one degree less
dense than the matter of the physical world.  It is not a finer physical
matter, according to them, rather it is an unceasing motion -- a vibration,
so to speak -- whereas the matter of the physical world is inert or harmless
-- does not act in concert with anything else to either create or destroy.  

The desire world is ever-changing light and color in which forces of animal
and man intermingle with the forces of innumerable hierarchies of spiritual
beings which mold -- they say -- our desires. 

They reflect their own philosophy, their own belief, in  these hierarchies
in their creation of these fraternal orders with their hierarchies of
degrees.  Where they are profane initiates, Blue Lodges; and of course, the
elect or the elite reach the highest levels -- all looking for that magical
secret which, when discovered, reveals only the means of controlling many
others through that promise of that magical secret -- which has never, does
not now, and most likely will never exist.

Their desires in turn create interest.  Interest, once it is thoroughly
aroused, starts the forces of attraction and repulsion, and then things
begin to happen.  
It is the meaning of the pyramid -- or I should say, the triangle.  The
triangle is made up of ....  Actually, the pyramid is made up of four
triangles, ladies and gentlemen.  But the triangle represents thought,
desire, and action.

Observe this verbatim quote, if you will, which they say points out the
close resemblance of the western occultism to the oriental esoteric --
remember esoteric means hidden -- Christianity.  Not the Christianity that
YOU know, or that you practice in your church, or that you read from your
Bible, or that you observe in your home.  But the hidden Christianity that
existed before the birth of Christ in the worship of the perfection of the
soul -- the Luciferian religion that man himself will become God.  I quote:

"The physical and the desire worlds are not separated from each other by
space.  They are closer than hands and feet.  It is not necessary to move to
get from one to the other, nor from one region to the next.  Just as solids,
liquids, and gases are all together in our bodies, enter, penetrating one
another, so are the different regions of the desire world within us also."

End quote.  

The world of thought, they believe, consists of seven regions of varying
qualities and densities.  And like the physical world, the world of thought
is divided into two main divisions -- the region of concrete thought
composing the four densest regions, and the region of abstract thought
comprising the three regions of finest substance.  All of this is thought of
as consisting, if not of material, at least of, quote "mind stuff," end quote.

The thought forms are acting as regulators and balance wheels upon the
impulses engendered in the desire world by impacts from the phenomenal world.  

And on Monday night, ladies and gentlemen, we will go into their beliefs
regarding the evolution of man, the separation of mankind into different
races, the races that have existed, and the races that they believe are coming.

Good night.  And God bless each and every single one of you.

[CLOSING MUSIC:  "The Rose" performed by Joan Baez]

[end of episode]

Posted by Michele Moore


From Sun Aug 11 22:25:58 PDT 1996
Article: 77004 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
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Date Sun, 11 Aug 1996 14:12:04 -0400
>From  Jackie Patru <104645.452@CompuServe.COM>
Subject CAJI! CDR Action Alert #78- They want our cars!!!

P.O. Box 190, Millerton, Pennsylvania  16936
voice  847-471-6747 or 717-537-3035     fax  717-537-3045
Action Alert #78 - Saturday, 8-10-96  
From:  Jackie Patru



      Thanks to Charlie Peters and Stella Pyrtek-Blond of Clean 
Air Performance Professionals (CAPP) for their diligence.  They've
been leading the initiative for the great shake-up occurring 
around our country to constrain the manipulations of the 
out-of-control, Federal Environmental Protection Agency and some 
Orwellian provisions of its so-called Clean Air Act.  

We've discovered that this push from the EPA isn't about clean air
at all, but rather it's about our right to travel freely in our 
privately owned vehicles.  It's about control from a Federal 
Bureaucracy.  "Vehicles" include autos, trucks, and motor cycles... 

      Stella attended a meeting in Colorado a couple of years ago
and has a tape recording of one of the EPA bureaucratic stooges, 
William Yellowtail, claiming, "OUR JOB IS TO GET CARS OFF THE 

(Montanans - take note.  William Yellowtail, is currently a U.S.
Congressional candidate in your great state) 

     We have UN documents which lay out plans to "urbanize" 
America - to get us out of the country and into cities.  Without 
privately owned vehicles we'll be tied to their mass transit 
systems.  THINK ABOUT THAT.      

     The majority of vehicles targeted are pre-1980 models.  
Bureaucrats claim that even though there are a small percentage of
these vehicles on the road, they are the "gross polluters". 

     We believe they want to destroy our older vehicles because 
pre-1980 vehicles are not equipped with computers.  Without 
computers Big Brother cannot monitor, track, and ticket-by-mail 
American motorists.  

     AND... the Feds cannot use their new, super-technology to 
shut down the engines of law abiding Citizens who travel in 
pre-'80 vehicles. 

FLASH !!!  Recent news broadcasts have stated that California will
begin testing this "shut-down" system this month.  They allege 
that they will use the system to "stop illegal immigrants".
Right!  How many of these illegals do we suppose will be driving
vehicles new enough to be equipped with the electronics neccessary
for the system to work.  BETTER GET ON THIS !!!          

     The good news is, because of the unrelenting campaign led by 
CAPP to educate local, state and federal elected officials, the 
horns of the EPA have been somewhat retracted.  We say somewhat, 
because the controlling powers don't give up easily.  


     California Governor, Pete Wilson, is about to sign long-term 
contracts with Global Corporations.  The contract mandates public 
participation in rigged emission testing protocols to create chaos 
in order to bring about their desired change... ORDOR AB CHAO.  
This endangers all of us because many states follow California's 

     To demonstrate our description of the EPA as "out of control",
read these excerpts from the Wall Street Journal, October '93 - 


    "In *regions* of 11 states, lawyers are advising big employers
to brace themselves for a little noticed provision of the Clean 
Air Act. Starting in November, 1994, many employers in areas of 
severe air pollution must begin reducing the number of people who 
drive to work... or face fines and possible criminal penalties 
under the Employee Trip Reduction Act (ETRA)." 

["big employers" in this article does not refer to Global 
Corporations.  They are American small-business owners with 100 or
more employees. They are businesses which have stayed in America 
and are providing decent wages to American workers.] 

"They are changing what everyone has come to see as a sign of 
freedom and individual liberty, the right to drive" says 
environmental lawyer Joseph J. McGovern, of Philadelphia.  Not 
complying will be costly.  The potential fines reach $25,000 a
day... Repeated refusals to comply could result in criminal fines 
and prison sentences."  

                  AND GLOBAL CORPORATIONS ? ! ?
     Consider the audacity of appointed bureaucrats dictating to 
private Citizens! Consider the un-Constitutionality and the danger 
of appointed bureaucrats holding the power and authority to have 
CEO's of privately-owned businesses in America fined and 

     It is our understanding the EPA made some "concessions" with 
respect to ETRA.  However, their concessions gave business-owners 
a choice between arsenic and strychnine.  

    Many state legislatures, commandeered by corrupt governors, 
are attempting to implement "car crushing" laws.  Under 
California's current law, the intention is to "crush" 50,000 cars 
per day.  This amounts to 12 million in a year, which is one-half 
- ONE-HALF - of  all cars now in California!  By "crushing" the 
cars all components and parts are destroyed so those who own older
model cars will not be able to find parts for repairs.  Insidious!    

HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO - MUST DO... to protect your right - not 
your privilege, your RIGHT - to travel.   

     Let's let Pete Wilson hear from Americans all over the 
country!  If this insanity can be stopped once and for all - 
exposed for what it really is - maybe we won't have to fight it in
our own states.  New Jersey Citizens can relate to this message
because draconian laws have already passed. Coloradans are 
experiencing the oppression, corruption, inconvenience and 
incompetence of the IM-240 system.  They've discovered that it's 
much easier to stop the process than to reverse it.  

     In Pennsylvania, the state legislators, after entering into 
the contracts with Envirotest, realized the mistake; cancelled the
contracts and we've been sued by the big boys.  That means big 
bucks (from our tax dollars) to a sham operation.      

     Call and / or fax a message to Governor Wilson's office.  
Fax # is 916-445-4633.  Voice # is 916-445-2841.  
You'll get a voice-mail message when you call.  To by-pass the
message and speak directly to a real person, press 3.   

Tell Governor Wilson "NO" to "Smog-check II".  

Tell him to give the Pilot Program, presented by Clean Air
Performance Professionals, a chance.  

Tell Wilson that CAPP's Pilot Program will prove that Californians
 - private industry - can more effectively protect the environment 
than the current MANDATED plan.  

Tell him it will save jobs.  It will save our vehicles.  It will 
NOT violate the individual rights of Citizens as secured by our 

You might also mention that IF HE DOES SIGN THE CONTRACT, YOU WILL

     Whether you reside in or out of California you should make 
the call.  If Governor Wilson's office wonders why you're calling
>from  out of state let them know that you know how critical this 
issue is to the rights of ALL Americans. 

     Californians need our help.  Let's do it!  We may need their 
help one day.

          Please redistribute this information to your mail lists.
 Make hard copies to distribute to family,friends, co-workers, 
group members and strangers who are not on the Net.

          Most especially...  get this information to your state 
legislators.  If they aren't aware of the hoax surrounding this 
issue they may be duped into voting for similar legislation in 
your state.  Our state legislators have the Constitutional
authority to say "NO" to government bureaucracies' mandates and 
regulations which violate the Constitution, infringe upon our 
individual rights, and usurp states' rights. 

     And remember...  Federal courts have NO JURISDICTION IN THE 
SOVEREIGN STATES of these united States of America.

For real details of this scam on Americans contact Stella at 
                 MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA  ! !

If you've received  this message direct and  want
your name removed, please post me at [Jackie Patru - CDR]
be removed

From Mon Aug 12 09:26:11 PDT 1996
Article: 77242 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
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Subject: Firefighters briefed on UFOs in new manual (fwd)
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>Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 22:23:42 -0700
>From: Jan Farmer 
>Subject: CAJI! Firefighters Briefed on UFO Emergencies in New Manual
>Look who's getting ready for an invasion!.....
>                                  [Image]
>        Firefighters Briefed on UFO Emergencies in New Manual
>        According to the Jan. 1995 issue of OMNI, the Federal
>        Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), in its National Fire
>        Training Academy Open Learning Program, is using a book for
>        emergency crews titled the Fire Officer's Guide to Disaster
>        Control (second edition). The book, put together by the late
>        Charles W. Bahme and William M. Kramer, has a section that
>        takes a look at emergency situations involving UFOs.
>        According to the OMNI article, "It only makes sense that
>        civilian emergency personnel from police to firefighters may
>        be called to the scene of a close encounter, real or
>        not...[O]ur country's 'first responders' have never been
>        given any kind of background on the UFO phenomenon, until
>        now...
>        "For a detailed briefing on the topic, all professional
>        rescuers need do is refer to the new, second edition of the
>        Fire Officer's Guide to Disaster Control (Fire Engineering
>        Books and Videos). Used by the Federal Emergency Management
>        Agency (FEMA) in its National Fire Training Academy Open
>        Learning Program, the book covers, in addition to more
>        traditional fire fare, the ABCs of UFOs: In practical
>        language, the manual examines potential problems like
>        disruption of transportation and communication, possible
>        psychological and physical impacts, and speculations about
>        government secrecy. To fire up imaginations, the manual also
>        presents a hypothetical alien encounter.
>        "The guide's UFO section is primarily informational, says
>        Kramer, 'intended to get fire officers thinking. Nearly
>        everyone has told me they were impressed that a mysterious
>        subject was taken out of the closet, and many believe we
>        are, somehow, eventually going to make contact with other
>        forms of intelligent life.'"
>        Return to: Article Index, Category Index, Our Main Homepage

From Mon Aug 12 13:40:30 PDT 1996
Article: 77292 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
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Subject: Upcoming Invasion of the Alien Demons(fwd)
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>Date: Sun, 11 Aug 1996 23:35:49 +0100
>To: Danny Sale 
>From: "Peter W. Watson" 
>Subject: Fossilised 
>  ------- Forwarded message follows -------
>Danny - Here it is.  Your feedback appreciated. peter
>  ------- Forwarded message follows -------
>The front page of almost every U.K. newspaper today (7 August 1996) contains
>details of a discovery made by the National Aeronautics and Space
>(NASA) that a fossil embedded in a meteorite found in Antarctica in 1984
>allegedly provides, according to NASA spokesman James Hartsfield, "chemical
>evidence of past biological activity on Mars".  Full details of the 
>will appear in the next published edition of the U.S. journal "Science".  I 
>sending this message out this morning (even prior to the official 
>which will be made later today) because of the gargantuan importance of this
>event for the Christian Church.
>It so happens that for the past few weeks I have been writing an article for
>consumption in the mainstream Christian press on this very subject of
aliens and
>UFOs.  Today's announcement represents a major part in the strategy of New
>Order revelation in this area.  Three years ago in my book, "The Serpent
and the
>Cross", I made the following statement:
><<"The increasing number of UFO sightings has nothing to do with genuine
>extra-terrestrial civilisations, but is part of an ongoing strategy of the
>powers of darkness (Eph.6:12), under the direction of their prince of the
>power of the air (Eph.2:2), who are engaged in convincing the minds of the
>gullible that something out there is trying to contact us.  To those whose
>minds are attuned to such contact, demonic beings will actually manifest
>themselves as benign extra-terrestrials (ETs) who wish to offer help to
>humanity -- an offer that will, if it presents itself more openly, be avidly
>received as the influence of the New Gnosticism develops in world culture.  
>it can be proven that ETs do exist, and that they are on a higher plane
>the inhabitants of planet Earth, this will go a long way towards
vindicating the
>claims of the Neo-Gnostics, as well as establishing the suppositions of the 
>Physics and the evolutionary theories of secular humanism.  If this was to 
>supplemented by an alleged scientific discovery of the secret of the
>life-force, the way would be paved for some truly cataclysmic changes on 
>planet.  We should not be at all surprised if these developments occur in 
>near future as part of the advancing strategy of the powers of darkness to
>discredit the Gospel, debunk the Bible, and eradicate the concept of a
>transcendent Creator God.  The world will then be ready to believe the Lie
>Satan has always sought to perpetuate, and the global conditions will be in
>place for the revealing of the ultimate Man of Sin (2 Th.2:3-12)." [end of
>And elsewhere, in the same book, I reported on some events and drew some
><<"It is also surely of some significance here that Javier Perez de Cuellar 
>Secretary-General of the United Nations from 1982-1992 -- is reputed to have
>been abducted by space-aliens on 30th November 1989.  Perez de Cuellar has
>persistently refused to speak about this experience.  However, in response
to an
>enquiry about the matter from the Prince of Liechtenstein -- a leading world
>authority on UFOs -- he did not deny that it had occurred.
>"Whether or not this event really happened, its public disclosure through 
>international media could easily be part of a softening-up process designed 
>security agencies to prepare people to accept the idea of a relationship
>between alien beings and world government leaders.  Is it possible that the
>putting-out of films such as E.T. and Close Encounters of the Third Kind
>have also been part of the same information-feeding process, in preparation 
>an announcement of the real thing?  Admittedly, this is speculative; but
>are a number of comparable intelligence reports which claim that there has 
>some mysterious involvement of alleged alien beings (which Christians would
>identify as demonic entities) with a shadow world government since around 
>time that the United Nations was formally set up in 1948.  We have also seen 
>number of documents propounding the conceit that the human race was 
>the product of an experiment in genetic engineering by an advanced race of 
>from another world.  Religious writings such as the Bible, Koran, etc., are
>to contain a record of their ancient deeds, while the world religions
>have been based on the teachings of the messengers which they sent (e.g.,
>Buddha, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, etc.) to prepare us for the time that the 
>about all this could be revealed, and their Great Teacher could finally 
>to earth to lead mankind into the next world-era.  Even the Oxford 
>evolutionary biologist, William Hamilton, has proposed that our planet may 
be a
>zoo controlled by extraterrestrial beings, who have "planted the seeds of
>evolution on Earth hoping to create interesting, intelligent creatures."  
>now and then, he speculates, they see things not working very well and "so 
>insert a finger and just change some little thing.  And maybe those are the
>miracles which the religious people like to emphasise".
>If this fiendishly clever idea -- which has so far only been purported in
>academic and Neo-Gnostic circles -- was to be developed into a full-blown
>strategy, then we would be caught up in the most intensive spiritual battle
>involving deception on a universal scale.  It is not at all beyond the
bounds of
>possibility that demons posing as highly evolved beings from another world
>will be involved in the massive deception surrounding the revealing of the
>manifestation of Antichrist, whose coming is according to the working of
>with all power, signs, and lying wonders (2 Th.2:9).  Such a scenario could
>easily be part of the strong delusion which will be energised shortly 
>the time of the End among those who would rather believe the lie than love 
>Truth (2 Th.2:10-11)."   [end of quote]>>
>{All quotations in the quotes above are fully referenced in footnotes in the
>actual book}
>Not surprisingly, the media circus (which is now under New World Order 
>has made a number of important connections in respect to the above.  Two
>examples from today's newspapers corroborate where all this is heading:
>DAILY MIRROR (7/8/96):  Headline: "LIFE ON MARS [OFFICIAL]".  "A tiny fossil
>will today be held up as proof of life on Mars and the key to unlock the
>mysteries of the Universe.  The amazing discovery...could prove the
existence of
>alien life-forms.  It may well lead to a rewriting of the Bib Bang Theory of
>Earth's beginning and help to explain where the human race came from.  The 
>that we are descended from Martians is also a staggering possibility."
>DAILY TELEGRAPH (7/8/96): "This discovery will back the suspicion of many
>scientists that the kind of self-replicating chemical processes that can 
>the watershed between the inamimate and the living are more common than we
>think, making alien life inevitable."
>Friends, all this is so obviously the next major stage in the softening-up
>process which has been happening over the past thirty years to acclimatise 
>world to receive the Big Announcement:  "They're here!"  I believe that the 
>Announcement is not far off now -- maybe within the next year.  It is all so
>fiendishly clever, because today's announcement breaks the ground in an
>non-threatening but very effective manner -- enabling us to accept the
>hypothesis that there is "life out there" which can also "come here".  After
>all, fossilised micro-organisms are hardly going to cause an Orson Wells War 
>the Worlds style panic acoss the globe! -- but they do prepare the ground 
>the next stage, the Bib One.
>There is no doubt that discarnate entities have been increasingly active in 
>religious life of the planet in the past century (Medjugorje, eat your heart
>out!).  I believe they are also behind the increasing accounts of UFO 
>and alleged "alien" abductions.  In fact, I am also thoroughly inclined to
>believe the reports which suggest that "alien" manifestations have been
>colluding secretly with governmental powers for some years now, but which 
>not be officially announced because the lumpen proletariat could not take 
>However, a generation of 'friendly alien' space movies and announcements
such as
>that given by NASA today and in the upcoming edition of the journal 
>have 'respectabilised" the entire concept and readied the world for the Big
>The implications for the Church are enormous.  Bible Christianity and the 
>of a personal God will be claimed to be redundant, divisive and even
>to progress on this planet.  After all, if the human race is the product of 
>alien experiment, what need is there for the God of the Bible?  The man 
>Christ will be explained away as an avatar from an extra-terrestrial
>civilisation who came to announce the cataclysmic occurrences of earth which
>would precede his return with his ET buddies (i.e., the angels, in their
>thinking) from the other world at the end of the age.  All the New Age 
>of the transition into the Age of Aquarius provide a remarkable caricature
>(sanitised of its portents of Judgement) of what the Bible says will happen
>all hell breaks loose as the end of the age approaches (the New English 
>even obligingly says: "With these things, the birth pangs of the new age
>Matt.24:8; Mk.13:8)!.
>So where does all this leave the Church?  Well, the mainstream denominations 
>the false church (e.g., the Roman Catholic, Anglican and Methodist
>organisations, etc.) will jump straight on the bandwagon.  Their teachings 
>their repudiation of true Christianity have been paving the way for the 
>AntiChrist.  So don't expect any theological responses to UFO's from that
>department!  However, the true Church (i.e., genuine believers, clinging to 
>Cross, preaching the Word, and eschewing the world) will be utterly
>by all this and our churches will be ridiculed as dangerous sects which 
>to move with these "beneficial" discoveries of our times.
>Some of you may this this is all crazy; but it is nothing new (Eph.6:12; cf.
>Gen.6:2).  So watch this space and see how it pans out in the coming months 
>years.  We have nothing to fear, but it is important to be informed.  If
this is
>all as I suspect, then truly we have entered Satan's "little season" and the
>closing phase of this evil age is upon us.  Ultimately, it is all yet more
>confirmation of the veracity of Bible prophecy!
>More will follow this as the story develops.
>Your Servant, in Christ Jesus,
>Peter W. Watson

From Mon Aug 12 17:00:31 PDT 1996
Article: 77350 of alt.conspiracy
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 Found at

                 "CAN YOU HEAR US NOW !!!!"

                                  AUGUST 21, 1996
                                 BEGINS AT 6AM

Lee Rodgers, Melanie Morgan and Geoff Metcalf take their morning shows 
the road to the West steps of the State Capital
Building in Sacramento Wednesday, August 21, 1996.



The broadcasts will begin at 6AM from the West steps of the Capital
building and continue until noon. Listeners are
invited to visit the site and join the broadcast to share their own 
" stories and their reactions to this new legislation.

KSFO Radio is the ABC radio station broadcasting at 560 AM in San
Francisco. Michael Luckoff is president & generalmanager of KSFO Radio.
Jack Swanson is operations director.

                                             KSFO Radio
                             900 Front Street San Francisco, CA. 
                              Telephone 415 398-5600 Fax 415 391-3616

                       Get the FACTS Here !! STOP SMOG II !

                                    SAVE OUR AIR!

       Sell big business the right to make dirty air.
       Operate smog test stations designed and intended to fail all our 
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       Force the sale of high priced imitation gasoline which makes our 
      fail the Smog II tests.
       Force us to pay high prices for unnecessary tests and useless 
       Refuse to register test-failed vehicles or allow us to drive 
       on private ground.
       Invade without a warrant our yards and garages, take away 
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       Cancel our Constitutional rights and freedoms to travel .

                           IN WHATEVER CAR OR TRUCK WE WANT
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Send whatever you can spare so none of us will be made to walk 
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                               CONTACT THE FOLLOWING:

California State Governor Pete Wilson California
Ph: 916/445-1455-or- 916/445-2841
Regional Ph 415/703-2218

Attorney General Dan Lungren CA State
Ph 916/324-5765-or-916/445-9555 Fax 916/323-5333

California State Employee Locator Bureau
ph: 916/322-2760 (Call for Phone Listings of Other State Government 

California State Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR), Sacramento, CA.
Chief of BAR/Head of the Agency: Martin Keller
Ph: 916/445-7964-or-800-952-5210

Patrick Dorais, Former Chief of the EPA-
Ph: 916/445-7964; and presently with the
California State Bureau of Consumer Affairs- Ph: 916/445-4626

United States Office of the EPA, Region9, San Francisco, CA
Environmental Scientist, Sylvia Dugre- PH: 415/774-1224
Specialist in Mobile Source Air & Toxic Division- Roxanne Johnson Ph:
Environmental Engineer Sam Agtawa-Ph: 415/744-1228

                  "Can You Hear Us Now!" Demonstration Protest Rally

DATE: Wednesday, Aug. 21, 1996
TIME: 6:00am - 12:30
PLACE: In front of the West Side of the State Capitol Building

Directions From San Francisco:
Take San Francisco/Bay Bridge onto Highway 80 N.E. to Sacramento. Take
Capitol City Freeway/Business Hwy 80, Merge
to right after Madison Exit. Follow Capitol City Freeway past Arden Way,
Take Hwy. 160 (it turns into 12th Street).
Follow 12th Street to the State Capitol Building at 1315-10th Street.

Republican Party House Whip- Texas State Congressman Thomas Delay (State
Capitol, Austin, TX)
Phone: 202/225-5951;
Congressman Delay organized and successfully stopped the EPA Plan in his
State of Texas.
Dan Lynn Congressman Delay's Legislative Assistant, Phone: 202/225-0882

To receive copies of The Investigative Reporter, dealing with the topic 
the New EPA Smog Check Law and other equally
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Ph: 714/847-7534,
Huntington Beach, CA.

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To learn more about what you can do to fight this EPA Phase II Plan, 
to KSFO 560 AM:
KSFO Radio 560 AM 900 Front Street San Francisco, CA. 94111
More talk radio programs are scheduled to air dealing with this EPA 
II Plan

                                      Call KSFO Radio Station:
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                 415/954-7523- Melanie Morgan Demonstration Rally 

From Tue Aug 13 09:37:07 PDT 1996
Article: 77384 of alt.conspiracy
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> Thanks for sending this tid bit, Kathy.
> j:      UN vehicles!!!!
> Date:   96-08-11 09:26:59 EDT
> From:
> From:
> To:
> Dear Sister Paula,
> This morning at about 8 a.m. my husband observed a west bound train
> pulling about 10 flatcars.  They contained tanks, armored cars and troop
> transport trucks.  All of them were securely covered with tarps BUT one
> of the tarps had blown off and the troop transport truck that my husband
> saw had the UN emblem on the doors.  As they were all tarped and all
> painted the same color we assume that they surely all had UN markings.
> We live in central Indiana and this track runs from New York to
> California.
> Thought that you might find this interesting!
> In Christ's love,
> Kathy

From Tue Aug 13 09:37:12 PDT 1996
Article: 77407 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
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>outage.  Are they doing some kind of test runs to see if it "works?"  
>have both of these outages occurred on the West coast?  Have you 
>that in both cases the glitch was reported to happen in the Pacific
>Northwest?  ...which is the nearest part of continental US to Alaska? 

And, why do all the christian/conservative radio stations go dead during 
these outages.

From Thu Aug 15 10:12:26 PDT 1996
Article: 78095 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
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>        Well, there's his fraternity, Skull and Bones.

Skull and Bones? The one where you lie in a coffin naked with a ribbon 
around your penis and shout out details of your sex life representing 
the seperation of animal and man? never heard of 'em.

From Fri Aug 16 09:18:16 PDT 1996
Article: 78248 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
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The following was posted to a mailing list about Skull and Bones:


        Did anyone catch the segment on "Yale's most elite and powerful"
secret society? (American Journal--on ABC network 8/14/96;12:00 AM).The
following info is from the airing.
        The society meets in a place called the "Tomb", on campus.  It 
shown as having heavy metal doors. Dating back to 1832, membership now 
women and minorities, at the rate of fifteen per year. As the door is 
inside, the initiate is taken in and "hooded" with a black head covering
just like
that of the KKK.  As a matter of fact their ensemble could be compared 
to that
of the Klansmen, only black.  The members then climb into a coffin and
reveal their
sexual secrets.
        Members were mentioned, such as Sen. Chaffee, William Buckley, 
and the 
Bush males. It was mentioned that members include top businessmen and
federal Judges.
        Clips showed George Bush in the Oval Office being asked if he 
was a
He didn't answer the question.  His son GB jr. was asked the same 
to which
he replied,"Does it still exist?  I mean the thing is so secret, I'm not
sure it 
still exists." 
        The cook was interviewed, and revealed having seen skulls, 
25.  Ned
Anderson, an Apache leader claims the Indian skull is that of Geronimo. 
says it
was stolen from Ft. Sillin Oklahoma by none other than Prescott Bush.  
denys this, althouh they did admit to having an Indian skull, probably 
that of a
        Jack Mc Lamb, "a leader of so-called patriot group" makes an
outlandish claim
about this society, saying they network together in politics, religion, 
confronted with this, Chaffee said "Are we plotting the destruction of 
of course not, that's nonsense."
____________________________end of report__________________June C    


From Fri Aug 16 09:18:19 PDT 1996
Article: 78334 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: NWO De-Populating Flu Virus (fwd)
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Date Thu, 15 Aug 1996 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT)
>From (John K. Whitley)
Subject NWO de-populating Great Flu virus....


Because of the nature and seriousness of this item, I'm coping it
it my own NWO list. Feel free to make the same use of it yourself.

First, a possible correction. I don't have the TORONTO STAR article
to hand which mentioned the CDC/University of Toronto "expedition"
to the Arctic, so can't confirm this either way immediately but a
colleague of mine believes that it is *next* summer that the 
attempt to retrieve the Great 1918 Influenza virus from the four or 
five corpses known to be buried under the Arctic permafrost
will occur. I seem to recollect that it was planned for *this*
summer. We have huge files on just about every topic, so when 
we can determine how that item got filed, we'll settle the date
for you!

I'd recommend avoiding *any* immunization shots unless absolutely
needful [because of foreign travel, etc]. Unknown to most people,
many of these vaccines also include - unbelievable, but true! -
a brain-destroying amoeba which is cultured with the vaccine [it
appears that this is inadvertent, and - statistically - the
companies that market these probably figure that the protection
is worth the odd fatality]. People would be far better building
up their immune systems, making sure they have vitamin supplements,
and having some prescription penecillin tablets to hand [LEGAL
NOTE for the FDA: this is not "medical advice", but it *is* my
opinion. Have a nice day!]

The 1918 influenza epidemic is an interesting possible example
of "allied eugenics" at work. It first broke out on the German
side of the trench lines on the Western Front, and so devastated
their armies and capabilities that it was *the* single cause
for their suit for an Armistice. Up to that point, they were a 
formidable enemy still. There was comparatively *little* incidence 
of it among the Allied armies facing them, which makes one wonder
if it wasn't an early example of biological warfare.
Penicillin had not been invented at this point.

It was an extraordinarily virulent flu, which spread rapidly 
in both the US and Britain as soldiers returned home after 
demobilization. A major Battle Fleet of the Royal Navy chose 
that time to circumnavigate much of the old Empire and wherever 
it made port, especially in India, the flu erupted with deadly 
and mounting effects. For those who doubt the eugenics/Malthusian 
influences at work in British ruling circles at this time, I 
would point out that their Lordships of the Admiralty [in collusion
with the US Navy and government] had mounted an iron-clad embargo of
all *food* shipments by sea into Germany, which embargo continued for
nine months after the War without the knowledge of the Prime Minister
[Lloyd-George, a Christian socialist, thought it was a legitimate
embargo on machine tools, industrial equipment, etc., and was 
horrified to discover that H.M. warships had been efficiently and 
deliberately intercepting all food shipments and confiscating or
barring passage to them - he was *powerless* for months to stop
this, largely because of the depth of anti-German feeling in Britain
at the time] and led to the starvation of millions of Germans and
the setting up of city "Soviets". All of this helped lay the later
ground for Hitler's ascent.

Lloyd-George, incidentally, within a short time of his election as
first Labour Prime Minister of Britain, cut off reinforcements of
British troops to Field Marshall the Earl Haig, British commander
in France [unaffectionately referred to by his troops as "Butcher
Haig", for his apparent ability to get vast numbers of them 
efficiently killed in pointless battles] beacuse, he said, "He'll
just slaughter them!" At this point, we can assume, Lloyd-Jones had 
just been introduced to the Establishment's Malthusian population
control policies, designed to cut the population [and future 
numbers of families] in Britain's huge industrial cities, where
the elite feared, above all else, the growth of Bolshevism and
the possibility of revolution. The Germans had the same fear, and 
the British and German aristocracies were, and are, tightly linked
by marriage - and, quite possibly, mutual interests and concerns. 
So they, deliberately or not, killed off millions of each other's
males rapidly during the Great War, and starvation and disease
then wielded the dealy sickle on the rest of Europe and the
world's population.

With a war planned in Bosnia which would rapidly widen, the 
"retrieval" of the 1918 flu virus from the Arctic, and the
same Malthusian mindset among the modern aristocracy [Prince
Philip, the Rockefellers, etc.,] are we now fated to see a
repeat performance? I wouldn't be surprised! 

I believe, by the way, that the original posting about 
"British scientists" finding this virus and accidently 
releasing it to the atmosphere is a *hoax*, for a number
of sound reasons. Note also its lack of attribution. But
the fact that efforts *are* being made to *retrieve* it
>from  the Arctic is verifiably true, and one wonders on
the basis of what, and whose, agenda?

                      Best wishes,

                  John Whitley, Editor                              

   Interested in learning more about communist influence
   in the American media, the resurging Soviet empire,
   the FBI's proposed domestic terrorism centre, the
   TWA800 shootdown, the ATF's "Operation Piedmont" plans
   to plant pipe bombs at the Atlanta Olympics and blame 
   them on the militias...and much, much more that the
   media will not tell you?




                 [This item may be re-posted]

>John, are you suggesting we avoid any "flu shots" from the CDC this 
>flu season? 
>Would you mind if I shared your note to me with my list? 
>I've read a bit about the flu epidemic of WWI years. Without penicillin 
>was terrible and it killed many millions of people--more than the war, 
if I
>recall correctly. Was it because it was a much worse flu, or did it 
kill so
>many because penicillin hadn't been invented yet? I don't know--do you?
>All best,
> Patty
>>This is no joke, but the *facts* are [deliberately?] askew.
>>A team from the [Rockefeller-connected] CDC and Canadian scientists
>>from the University of Toronto *did* go up to the Arctic to exhume
>>these corpses this summer. I have the Toronto newspaper account.
>>The "British team accidentally release the virus into the 
>>atmosphere" sounds like a distracting cover story for what's
>>coming coutesy of the CDC, who went up there *specifically* to
>>obtain this virus.
>>More in a forthcoming issue of THE NEW WORLD ORDER INTELLIGENCE
>>                            John                       
>>>This sounds like a really bad B Grade movie to me, but I thought I'd 
pass it
>>>on. Patty
>>>>Date: Wed, 14 Aug 1996 18:28:12 +0100
>>>>From: Bazzer 
>>>>Subject: Flu Virus..
>>>>Sender: snetnews-approval@alterzone.COM
>>>>To: snetnews@alterzone.COM
>>>>Reply-to: snetnews@alterzone.COM
>>>>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>>->  SearchNet's   snetnews   Mailing List
>>>>Hi there.
>>>>Hope it is OK to post this here.  Not sure what/who the source is 
>>>>Millions and millions of people may die this year from a devastating 
>>>>that firs struck 78 years ago.
>>>>Doctors fear an imminent global disaster because a scientific bungle 
>>>>accidentally re-released into the atmosphere the deadly virus that 
>>>>out over 20-million people during the spanish Flu epidemic of 1918.
>>>>Government health officials all over the world are scrambling to 
>>>>precautions so that their darkest fears are not realized.  But a 
>>>>of great magnitude seems inevitable.
>>>>According to Dr. Gleeber, the deadly flu virus of 1918 accidentally 
>>>>re-entered the earth's atmosphere during the first week in July when 
>>>>team of British scientists travelled to the Norwegian island of 
>>>>in the Arctic Circle and dug up the graves of five victims of the 
>>>>flu epidemic.
>>>>They were hoping to find conclusive answers to what still remains as 
>>>>world's deadliest health disaster.
>>>>Using new DNA techniques, they planned to extract answers from the 
>>>>bodies of the flu victims which had been naturally preserved by the 
>>>>permafrost conditions of the Artic Circle.
>>>>One of the young gravediggcontainer 
>>>>filled with the flu virus from the DNA of one of the corpses.
>>>>"The worst fears of the researchers came true," says Dr. Gleever.  
>>>>all knew it the moment that the vial of influenza virus was exposed 
>>>>the air.  Once that happened, there was no turning back.  The damage 
>>>>been done--and the blueprint for global disaster was in place."
>>>>The story was subsequently hushed up in a conspiracy by world 
>>>>governments to prevent global panic.  Since news of the fatal 
>>>>slipped out, health officials all over the world hae been huddled 
>>>>scientists to see how a repeat of the Spanish Flu epidemic of 1918 
>>>>carried a genetic mutation that made it super deadly," says Dr. 
>>>>"It was a lethal combination of influenza and a pneumonia-causing 
>>>>bacteria that simply overpowered the human body.  Millions of people 
>>>>literally drowned in their own lung fluid.  Of course now we have 
>>>>powerful antibiotics that can stave off most infections.  But we 
>>>>yet have the proper antidote to fight the powerful 1918 flu virus.  
>>>>have a deadly time bomb on our hands with this situation.  If 
>>>>don't find the right vaccine by late October or November, we could 
be in 
>>>>for a tragedy of horrible proportions.
>>>>                     "One is One and All is All,
>>>>                      And ever more shall Be So."
>>>>                                               (Traditional)
>>>>AOL :
>>>>-> Send "subscribe   snetnews " to
>>>>->  Posted by: "Bazzer" 

From Fri Aug 16 13:46:39 PDT 1996
Article: 78395 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: This newsgroup is 20% info, 80% crap.
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>I like this newsgroup, but there are so many people on here producing


From Mon Aug 19 17:59:56 PDT 1996
Article: 78562 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: A message to Illuminati Primus
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>about George Bush being involved with the Illuminati. I asked if
>anyone knew if it was true that he was involved. You responded by
>saying this: "Duh".
>This is a pretty immature response. 
>If you are so smart at least give us some ineresting info on the 

What!??! What the hell do we owe *YOU*?! Why dont you do your damn 
research and quit making demands and calling us immature, when you are 
the little puppet that is going to be led to the slaughter. We do NOT 
feel obligated to tell the story of secret societies from ancient india 
and egypt to the present every time someone asks. YOU ARE  IMMATURE. YOU 
ARE AN IDIOT, as well. It isn't that WE ARE SO SMART it is that we READ, 
which apparently you do NOT.


From Mon Aug 19 17:59:57 PDT 1996
Article: 78700 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
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> I am trying to read and understand this, with people like around it's
>harder for people like me to try to gain knowledge. What is your
>problem anyway? 

BUY SOME BOOKS, dont call people 'immature' because they dont want to 
explain everything they know to you.
Go to your local christian bookstore and see if you can find THE DEADLY 

Also, you must get BEHOLD A PALE HORSE by William Cooper.

>have. And what is this newsgroup about anyway? I thought it was about
>exchanging interesting info, not sending offensive messages to people
>as you did.

Most people atleast get the *basics* down and have a REASON to come 
here, rather come here and say 'Tell me about this. Oh you dont want to? 
your immature.'

>  Your post is immature and outragious. I'm not suprised
>though. Ever since I've been using newsgroups I constantly come across
>people who have no tolerence for anyone. As many of you can see, my
>original post was not offinsive, I was just trying to clarify

You apparently have no tolerance for us, we're immature.

From Mon Aug 19 17:59:58 PDT 1996
Article: 78722 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
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>Date: Fri, 16 Aug 1996 17:31:01 -0400
>From: (Ed Hertzog)
>Subject: CAJI! Fwd: East Coast Black-Out
>Here's a little something I got today...
>Forwarded message:
>From: (Jackie Madison)
>Date: 96-08-14 09:42:38 EDT
>To ALL:  Please take note of this post and print out for distribution to you
>family and friends..also to your lists.
>In the wake of West Coast Black outs (2 recently) ..short wave radio host
>Steve Quale had a guest on his show who warned of a planned black-out over
>the entire East happen shortly. No dates available but this is a
>warning and alert for people to be prepared. As for me and my family we are
>stocking in emergency supplies like food, kerosene, candle, batteries, etc. 
>The "excuses" given for the West Coast black-outs are so silly and stupid,
>it shows how dumb they think American citizens are these days. A brush fire
>in Northern CA was said to have caused the most recent incident and
>lightning hitting a tree was claimed to be the cause of the first one. We
>have engineers
>in our family and they actually laughed at those claims. 
>I hope this will will not happen but I see some strange goings on lately so
>for safety and survival sake I will be prepared for anything! I hope you all
>will be too!   Jackie

I do not advocate the initiation of force or
violence to accomplish any political, social, or
 economic goal under any circumstance.

Ed Hertzog                            A= A

Without Prejudice: UCC 1-207

"Let us consider for a moment the statement: 
'There is no objective reality.' Now, if we 
consider that to be a fact and ponder the 
statement it immediately disproves itself.
The statment would have to be false because,
by definition, a fact must be objective; hence... 


"Does the government fear us?  Or do we fear
 the government?  When the people
fear the government, tyranny has found victory. 
 The federal government 
is our servant, not our master!"
- Thomas Jefferson


From Mon Aug 19 17:59:59 PDT 1996
Article: 78902 of alt.conspiracy
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              [Put online by Danny Sale,]

Excerpt from "A History of Secret Societies" by Arkon Daraul, copyright 1961.
    It should be noted that this book is not presented as anti-masonic ; It
               gives history and rituals of secret societies.

       Initiation Ritual and Oaths of the German branch of the Illuminati

               As found in the chapter "The Illuminated Ones."

"As in the case of the German branch, it was soon alleged that they pursued
terrible aims and practiced frightful orgies. An extract from a French book
(almost certainly grossly exaggerated)  [<-Author's note, not mine] of the
seventeen-nineties - La Secte des Illumines - will give a fair idea of this:
  'The huge chateau of Ermenonville near Paris was one of the chief lodges of
the Illuminated. It belonged to the Marquis of Gerardin, who protected 
and later gave him a tomb on his estate. St. Germain, the notable imposter,
presided over it. He claimed to be a thousand years old, and to be able to
make gold. He was said to be immortal, but died in 1784. On the day of his
initiation, the candidate was conducted through a long, dark passage into an
immense hall draped with black. He was able to see, by the faint light of
sepulchral lamps, corpses in their shrouds. The altar, built of human skele-
tons, stood in the centre. Ghostly forms moved through the hall, leaving be-
hind them a foul odour. At length two men, dressed as spectres, appeared and
tied a pink band or ribbon smeared with blood around his forehead. Upon this
was an image of the Lady of Loretto. A crucifix was placed in his hand, and
an amulet hung around his neck. His clothes were removed and laid upon a
funeral pyre, while upon his body crosses were smeared in blood. Then his
pudenda were tied with string.
  'Now five and horrid and frightening figures, bloodstained and mumbling,
approached him and threw themselves down in prayer. After an hour, sounds of
weeping were heard, the funeral pyre started to burn, and his clothes were
consumed. From the flames of this fire a huge and almost transparent form
arose, while the five prostrate figures went into terrible convulsions. Now
came the voice of an invisible hierophant, booming from somewhere below. The
words were those of these oaths, which the candidate had to repeat:

      " 'In the name of the crucified one, I swear to sever all bonds
         which unite me with mother, brothers, sisters, wife, relatives,
         friends, mistress, kings, superiors, benefactors or any other
         man to whom I have promised faith, service or obedience;

      " 'I name the place of which I was born. Henceforth I live in an-
         other dimension, which I will not reach until I have renounced
         the evil globe which has been cursed by Heaven;

       " 'From now onwards I shall reveal to my new chief all that I have
         heard or found out; and I shall also seek out and observe things
         which might otherwise have escaped me;

       " 'I honour the aqua toffana; it is a quick and essential medium of
         removing from the earth, through death or robbing them of their
         wits, of those who oppose truth, and those who try to take it from

         out hands;
       " 'I shall avoid Spain, Naples, and all other accursed lands, and I
         shall avoid the temptation to betray what I have now heard;

       " 'Lightning will not strike as rapidly as the dagger, which will
         reach me, wherever I may be, should I betray my initiation.'

  'Now a candelabrum, bearing seven black candles, is placed before the cand-
idate, and also a bowl containing human blood. He washes himself in the
blood, and drinks a quantity of it. The string around his pudenda is removed,
he is placed in a bath to undergo complete ablution. After this, he eats a
meal composed of root vegetables.'
   While it is possible that such ceremonies as this have actually taken
place, it will be recalled that such items as 'human blood' are generally not
of the genuine variety in any society other than those reputed to be ded-
icated to criminal or perverted ends. But, as with the initiations of other
societies, there is no doubt that the candidate may have been made to believe
that he was actually going through an initiation which involved horrible
things of this nature. Initiation into the ancient mysteries was often acc-
ompanied by the exposure of the candidate to fear and other emotions, in
order to make him receptive to the oath or message which was to be made


From Mon Aug 19 17:59:59 PDT 1996
Article: 79330 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Annuit Coeptis & Dollar Bill symbology
Date: 19 Aug 1996 00:15:30 GMT
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To whomever it was that was asking about the dollar bill symbology;

[information from THE CULT OF THE ALL-SEEING EYE by Robert Keith 

Annuit Coeptis was drawn from Virgil: "Audacibus annue coeptis," which 
means "Favor my daring undertaking" (Aeneid, Book 9 verse 625; also in 
Georgics, I, 40). Novus Ordo Seclorum was taken from Virgil's 4th 
Eclogue, 5th verse: "Magnus ab integro seclorum nascitur ordo," 
translated "The great series of ages begins anew".

The entire quotation is as follows: 'The last age of Cumaen song now 
comes. Novus Ordo Seclorum, or Magnus Soeclorum ordo, A mighty order of 
ages is born anew. Both the prophetic Virgin and Saturnian kingdoms now 
return. Now a new progeny is let down from the lofty heavens. Favor, 
chaste Lucina, the boy soon to be born in whome the iron age shall come 
to an end, and the golden one shall rise again in the whole earth'

Much more in this book, I suggest purchasing it.

From Tue Aug 20 08:44:53 PDT 1996
Article: 79556 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
Newsgroups: alt.illuminati,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Adam Weishaupt, a HUMAN DEVIL
Date: 19 Aug 1996 00:38:05 GMT
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I have recently purchased a book entitled "Adam Weishaupt, a HUMAN 
DEVIL" by Gerald B. Winrod. I was told it was printed in 1935 yet there 
is no date nor printing company named, no nothing, just, the book.
Can anyone confirm? it definately looks as if it is from 1935.
You can order it and many more from:

Anti-Federalist Research Group
3115 White Horse Road, Suite 171
Greenville, South Carolina pz29611

803-295-4452 order line

From Wed Aug 21 07:59:54 PDT 1996
Article: 79809 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
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Why dont you just go there.

From Wed Aug 21 07:59:54 PDT 1996
Article: 79810 of alt.conspiracy
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In article <4v9v7s$>, says...
>So, is the book any good?

pretty killer d00d.

From Wed Aug 21 07:59:55 PDT 1996
Article: 79818 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Life on Mars - A Biblical Response
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>Most christians, including the Church and current Pope, have moved

The current Pope?!? HAHA.

>It is an ongoing tragedy that some are unwilling to accept that
>science is not a threat to spiritual beliefs and that it is in
>fact irrelevant to them.  Those who cannot seperate the two are
>damning themselves to irrelevancy.  Alan Morrison is a textbook

Wrong, he is right on the money and I suspect you know it.

From Thu Aug 22 17:52:32 PDT 1996
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>I was recently watching a travel show concerning Vietnam. Seems they
>have a fairly new religion that supposedly blends many of the concepts
>of Christianity, Buddahism, Taoism, and some others. Called Kow Dai,
>the sect's most sacred idol looks as if it came directly off the US
>dollar bill. It is the eye of Horace. 

Its Cao Dai, and it is a luciferic CULT that (as well as many others) 
uses the symbol of enlightenment, or illumination, the pyramid and the 
eye. Get the book called THE CULT OF THE ALL-SEEING EYE.
It is a part of Masonry as much as the Order of the Golden Dawn is. 
They may not admit to it but it is all the same thing, headed up by the 
same people as all of them are, the antichrist bankers, the illuminati.

From Sat Aug 24 10:07:00 PDT 1996
Article: 80673 of alt.conspiracy
From: (Danny Sale)
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>But who are God's chosen people?  The Catholic Church has had an 
>so did the the Protestent Church (they were anti-semetic for a time), 
>so did the Jews, Muslims, Hitler, Jim Jones, David Koresh, and many 

Im not against jews. You apparently dont know what is going on. In 
Revelation, it refers to the Jews that are NOT jews, rather the 
synagogue of satan. What do you think this means? research tells me that 
jews have been persecuted for a very long time - but no longer, to a 
certain extent, because of certain events and certain categorizations, 
like anti-semit. And because of this, there have been certain types of 
people (one is from france) that are claiming to be jews to avoid 
persecution and investigation into what they are really doing. There are
 indeed jews, and I have no problem with them. However, as I said, there 
are people claiming to be jews just to avoid investigation, and anything 
 that would result in their exposure will result in their outcry.

From Sat Aug 24 13:02:21 PDT 1996
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>||  If so, why weren't we *all* informed?  C'mon frankie, the masons 
>|| about as dangerous as the Moose (?mooses? meece?) or perhaps more 

go to

From Sun Aug 25 13:20:41 PDT 1996
Article: 81022 of alt.conspiracy
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>web... For years people have passed on codes and clues via rock lyrics 
>just as the French did before the French Revolution.  History repeats 

Nirvana, come as your are and Wild Boys, duran duran, I never looked at 
these in that fashion.
Perhaps you should check out Led Zeppelin's KASHMIR and the IMMIGRANT 
SONG. They reveal *alot*. Jimmy Page is a member of the Temple of Isis 
and the Order of the Golden Dawn, he knows what is up, hell, They *ALL* 
know what is up.
THE *ONLY* PEOPLE THAT DONT are the blind, blind normal 
everyday citizens that go around singing songs of which they know 
NOTHING about.
I would encourage EVERYONE to go to that page, and my page to get the background of 
where these singers are getting their lyrics. I, myself, play guitar and 
 listen to most of these bands, because I am heavily into music and 
always will be. It still doesn't change the fact that you should know 
what they are singing about.

From Sun Aug 25 13:20:42 PDT 1996
Article: 81192 of alt.conspiracy
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>Vote Libertarian from now on if you want a government that abides
>strictly by the constitution.

NOBODY that makes it onto the television screen is going to help us, it 
is all the same. They all want us DEAD.

From Sun Aug 25 13:45:14 PDT 1996
Article: 96147 of alt.censorship
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>web... For years people have passed on codes and clues via rock lyrics 
>just as the French did before the French Revolution.  History repeats 

Nirvana, come as your are and Wild Boys, duran duran, I never looked at 
these in that fashion.
Perhaps you should check out Led Zeppelin's KASHMIR and the IMMIGRANT 
SONG. They reveal *alot*. Jimmy Page is a member of the Temple of Isis 
and the Order of the Golden Dawn, he knows what is up, hell, They *ALL* 
know what is up.
THE *ONLY* PEOPLE THAT DONT are the blind, blind normal 
everyday citizens that go around singing songs of which they know 
NOTHING about.
I would encourage EVERYONE to go to that page, and my page to get the background of 
where these singers are getting their lyrics. I, myself, play guitar and 
 listen to most of these bands, because I am heavily into music and 
always will be. It still doesn't change the fact that you should know 
what they are singing about.

From Mon Aug 26 09:10:24 PDT 1996
Article: 81396 of alt.conspiracy
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>	Brain transplants, huh?  


From Mon Aug 26 09:16:34 PDT 1996
Article: 96583 of alt.censorship
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>	Brain transplants, huh?  


From Mon Aug 26 10:34:15 PDT 1996
Article: 69961 of soc.culture.jewish
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>	Brain transplants, huh?  


From Mon Aug 26 13:59:51 PDT 1996
Article: 440680 of talk.politics.misc
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>	Brain transplants, huh?  


From Mon Aug 26 14:08:45 PDT 1996
Article: 303446 of talk.politics.guns
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>	Brain transplants, huh?  


From Mon Aug 26 14:28:13 PDT 1996
Article: 50047 of alt.society.civil-liberty
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>	Brain transplants, huh?  


From Tue Aug 27 12:39:53 PDT 1996
Article: 124515 of soc.culture.african.american
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>	Brain transplants, huh?  


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