From email@example.com Fri Sep 20 10:51:30 PDT 1996 Article: 30292 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!tribune.usask.ca!mongol.sasknet.sk.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.sas.ab.ca!intphase From: firstname.lastname@example.org () Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: white people organize now Date: 20 Sep 1996 05:18:24 GMT Organization: Edmonton FreeNet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Lines: 50 Message-ID: <email@example.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet.edmonton.ab.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.5] 1¾ Social and economic policies of government will exterminate the white people of this country. Fact: (Vital Statistics) the birth rate of white people is about 1.4. Fact: This means total extinction in about 70 years, a sustained 2.2 birthrate maintains population. This genocide is due to the most comprehensive policy of government ever devised in history. Most "Western countries" have adopted or are implementing these policies. 1. Economic Policy. In Canada, white people are only allowed a mere 10% of all government grants and bank loans, although they represent nearly 80% of the population. Foreigners, immigrants, and other races receive 90% of all funding. Affirmative Actions Programs such as that of the City of Edmonton, disbarred all white males from the 1996 fire- fighter employment. Unemployment for young white males is at least 30%, two or three times higher than normal. 2. Social Policy. Since young white men are discriminated against in employment, it will be very difficult to court, marry or raise families. Young women will be forced to marry coloured men to sire their children. There are far more coloured men marrying white women than white men marrying coloured women. Clearly white men, and coloured women are severely discriminated against. In advertising, media and educat- ional materials white to white parings are disturbingly rare. 3. Homosexuals. To ensure further reductions of births FEMINAZIS are encouraged and financed by our government. In schoolbooks there is little or no reference to raising a family. A satanic approach to the pursuit of money is all that matters. A woman's role as mother is defiled, and the seed of life destroyed. Families have no rights, but homosexuals have legal rights, protections,guarantees and protection. Taxpayers are subsidizing perverted lifestyles which would lead to the extermination of our race. 4. Criminals. It is no accident that the Immigration Department imports thousands of criminals into Canada every year. Drug dealers and pimps, most immigrant and visible minorities, are encouraged to come to Canada, with welcome arms from the Government. If ordered deported by the courts, the Immigration Department will often stay the order. If convicted, jail terms are lightly served in our hotel -prisons. This is obscene compared to the vicious punishment these scum inflict on their victims, mostly young white people. Almost 50% of battered women who go to shelters in Canada are turned away. Every dirty little immigrant who says he is a refugee is immediately given two years of hotels, heath care, lawyers, appeals, food allowances, training and support. We spend 2 billion dollars on these scum, our own people get cutbacks or nothing at all. From firstname.lastname@example.org Mon Sep 23 08:34:13 PDT 1996 Article: 91650 of can.general Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!cunews!freenet-news.carleton.ca!news.flora.ottawa.on.ca!news.synapse.net!news.abs.net!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.bctel.net!news.mag-net.com!aurora.cs.athabascau.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.sas.ab.ca!intphase From: email@example.com () Newsgroups: can.general Subject: criminals rights? Try victims rights Date: 23 Sep 1996 08:34:24 GMT Organization: Edmonton FreeNet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Lines: 415 Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet.edmonton.ab.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.5] PROPOSED VICTIM'S CHARTER OF RIGHTS GENERAL STATEMENT In the last two thousand years, the state has increasingly assumed control of matters of law and dispute. In primitive times, families and clans settled disputes and claims. This often resulted in long and internecine warfare which devastated many involved. As nations formed, crimes became less a matter of two persons in conflict and became more a matter of maintaining the King's Peace. Criminal prosecution proceeds today as the Queen versus the accused. Unfortunately, in this development, the victim has been relegated to simply being a piece of evidence or a witness to suit the bureaucratic whim of prosecutors and lawyers. The victim of a crime has at best been neglected; and at worst, been viciously abused by the system. Victims need to have specific protections and rights. All victims of crime must have enshrined in the CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS basic rights such as dignity, justice and fair treatment. The charter already has over 30 clauses to protect the accused; but not one, to protect the victims of crime. To guarantee that victim's rights are created, protected and respected, a VICTIM'S ADVOCACY OFFICE shall be formed and every victim of crime represented and supported throughout the entire legal process. A victim of a crime shall be advised of their rights by the police and be allowed immediate access to an advocate. Criminals already have this right with a lawyer. THE RIGHTS OF A VICTIM, SHALL NOT BE LESS THAN THOSE OF THE ACCUSED. Criminals are already guaranteed many rights, as in the Correctional and Conditional Release Act such as: safe and healthful living conditions, education, medical care, early releases, no physical punishment, and personal dignity. Why can rapists, murderers, pimps and child molesters be guaranteed "personal dignity" and no "physical punishment"? i.e. be given what they deny their victims. Victims have no rights, no protections nor any guarantees enshrined in law at all. This proposed charter is intended to correct the current legal deficiency and political negligence. SPECIFICALLY, ALL VICTIMS SHALL HAVE THE GENERAL RIGHT TO: A - DURING INVESTIGATION 1 - BELIEF The victim of a crime has the right to be believed. Many crimes are so bizarre and evil that the police and juries often have difficulty believing them. Cindy James repeatedly complained for years to the police that she was being stalked. Even after she was found in a ditch; beaten, assaulted, gagged, and bound hand and foot, the police still maintained that she was simply paranoid and seeking attention. She was eventually murdered, days after leaving a mental asylum. No arrests have yet been made. 2 - MEDICAL TREATMENT Victims must have the right to immediate and comprehensive medical treatment. In 1994, a little ten year old Indian girl from the Enoch Reserve was taken to several hospitals by the R.C.M.P. This unfortunate little girl was repeatedly refused treatment because the rural doctors did not want to involve themselves in a child molestation case. No victim of crime should ever be refused medical treatment. This right will include access to the accused's medical records to determine such risks as Sexually Transmitted Diseases. In 1992 Quebec Court Judge Yvon Roberge ruled that a victim does not have this right. 3 - DUE ATTENTION Victims of crime have the right to appropriate response from the police, investigative agencies, and the courts. Personal crimes are often treated with less consideration than property crimes. If a car is reported missing, the police will make a report without complaint. If a child or adult is missing the police often refuse to fill out a report, let alone act on it. Every one of Clifford Olsen's murder victims was a missing person to the families, who were usually told not to be concerned with teenage disappearances. On Canada's ten most wanted list this week, all wanted suspects are bank robbers; none are pimps, or child molestors or even murderers. Surely, thefts even from banks, are not as important as the lives of children. 4 - PERSONAL PROTECTION Victims and their families have the right to immediate and continuing protection from the criminal and any associates. Hundreds of victims and witnesses have been murdered, "have disappeared", or have have suddenly dropped charges; often after the accused has been given bail, even for the most heinous crimes. Pimps in particular make deadly sure that their talkative girls don't live long enough to testify. The charges are then usually dropped and the criminal allowed to go free. The sworn statements of witnesses should be allowed in court in emergent situations. Bail should not be allowed in serious criminal cases. 5 - COLLECTION OF EVIDENCE Prompt, compassionate, comprehensive and efficient collection of evidence shall be practiced. The victim is not simply an information source or vessel for gathering evidence. The victims shall be treated with dignity and respect. In one sexual assault case in Leduc, Alberta the police simply left the scene at the end of their shift. The victim fortunately protected the assailant's fingerprints on the glass patio door so that after the weekend break the police could get this crucial evidence. 6 - DEFENCE The victim of a crime has an inherent right to defend their person, family and property. Criminals in recent years have successfully charged or sued victims for assault and damages such as a rapist whose eyes had been scratched and a burglar who had accidentally fallen down some stairs after tripping on a child's toy. Under current Canadian Judicial review is a proposal to allow a battered woman to kill in defence of their person. A victim fighting for their immediate life should not be required to make a "proper arrest" complete with the least necessary use of force and then presumably advisement of the assailant(s) of "legal rights". In the middle ages, persons who scoffed at the law were frequently declared outside of the law and were not allowed to invoke it for their own protection. Hence the term "outlaw". Persons committing criminal acts should not be protected in the same manner or degree, as law abiding citizens. 7 - FREEDOM FROM REPETITION Crime victims should be free of bureaucratic and administrative excess. Numerous recountings of the crime are painful for the victim and are frequently unnecessary. 8 - REASONABLE EFFORTS TO APPREHEND The police and investigating agencies shall be given sufficient powers, funding, and incentive to conduct investigations including D.N.A. sampling, hypnosis, voice prints and kirlian imaging. Paul Bernardo's D.N.A. sample for multiple rapes in Scarborough, Ontario was untested for at least two years. Many dozens of girls were viciously raped, and at least two girls tortured, repeatedly raped and finally murdered because; there were "insufficient funds to test low priority rape cases." In contrast, there were plenty of funds, many millions of dollars to pay several lawyers to defend this evil monster in court. 9 - BE INFORMED Crime victims have the right to be present at and be informed of significant aspects of their cases. Victims are often not told about developments in their case, changes in trial dates, or even that their cases had been dropped. The prosecutor in one Scottish case unilaterally dropped charges against the wishes of the victim, in a solid rape case where a girl had been assaulted and stabbed 120 times by four teenagers. Victims have a right to appeal decisions made by the legal system. 10- ECONOMIC PROTECTION The victim of a crime is often severely traumatized and cannot immediately return to work. A reasonable degree of sympathy and compassion from employers is justified to allow time for physical and psychological healing. The family of the victim shall be assisted where necessary. The family of a murder victim for example, faces a large unexpected funeral bill. The crimes compensation fund should be considerably expanded to assist victims and their families while their capacity for earning is impaired. Our governments, which freely spend billions of dollars on criminal rights and privileges, should be at least as willing to help the victim. All criminal assets should be impounded to provide such funds. The F.B.I. report on organized crime porfits, suggests that in Canada, criminals make at least 70 BILLION DOLLARS IN CRIME PROFITS A YEAR, twice that of honest businesses. B - DURING PROSECUTION 1 - ESSENCE OF CRIME DEFINITION Crime shall be defined as a violation of the victim's rights. The religion, culture, age or state of mind (mens rea) of the offender is of no relevance, in any way, as to whether a crime has been committed. The drunken defence of a rape case of recent Canadian Supreme Court note is a classic example of the ridiculous claim of innocence based on the criminal's perception. A crime has been committed, when a victim's rights were infringed upon, and this should be the primary and perhaps only determinant of guilt or innocence. The degree of guilt or innocence may (and only may), be affected by other considerations. 2 - EVIDENCE CONFIDENTIALITY Some "evidence" shall be confidential and be protected from the defence and the press. In recent years, for example, lawyers have been trying to get access to the files of victims >from rape crisis centers. The Supreme Court of Canada now allows such access. This is an horrendous assault of the rights of victims and medical confidentiality. And yet, the accused's criminal records are not allowed in court, before sentencing. The victim is not on trial and should not have privacy and medical confidentiality violated. The victim's counselling is a healing process and should be absolutely protected. In glaring contrast, the Supreme Court does not allow conversations or records between accused clients and lawyers to be subjected to scrutiny and/or considered necessary for a "fair trial". Lawyer's records are considered sacrosanct. 3 - AN IMMEDIATE DEFENCE STATEMENT Upon arrest, the accused should be required to make a detailed statement. If so, this shall be recorded and commit the offender to a story immediately, so no tailoring to evidence can occur. 4 - PROSECUTION The victim should have the right to appove the laying of the charges. Victims are not disposable witnesses to be used at the discretion of the court officers. Prosecution now engages in too much plea bargaining, without the victim's knowledge, or power to protest. It makes no sense to investigate a charge of rape and theft of a handbag, to drop the rape charge and prosecute for petty theft to "save time and money." Multiple rapist Larry Takahashi had over 100 charges of rape dropped, and was then released on parole in a mere four years by the Parole Board because he was "not considered to be a risk to society." 5 - JOINDER OF COUNTS All multiple crimes or offenders shall be joined in charge to save trauma to the victims and costs to the taxpayer. In a Montreal case, a victim was put through unnecessary grief because five separate trials were needed for a gang rape. No victim should ever have to go through this sort of nonsense five times. The taxpayers were further subjected to court costs of over a million dollars. 6 - TRANSPORTATION Where necessary, the victim shall be provided separate transportation to court. In the N.W.T. a sexual assault victim was inexplicably and callously transported, in the same van as the assailant, to court in a remote community. 7 - TRIAL SUPPORT A secure waiting room should be provided for all victims. To suggest that a victim of a child molesting should have to wait outside the court with the assailant laughing and taunting them is incredible. 8 - PRIVACY Victims of crime have the right to privacy. This legal protection would include the right to lay charges and to receive compensation. The famous Canadian lawyer Edward Greenspan is now defending former Provincial Premier Gerald Regan on 17 charges of sexual assault. Greenspan said he would advertise in local papers for men who had slept with the victims. The victim's past is not generally relevant to the immediate case. In contrast, the accused's records and past are not generally allowed. The reverse should be the case. The accused's records should be admissible in court as it demonstrates pattern. 9 - QUICK AND EFFECTIVE TRIAL The victim should be guaranteed a quick trial. Most trial time and cost is wasted on testing non crucial, and eventually agreed upon evidence. This is an emotional burden to the victim and a financial one to the taxpayer. Physical evidence should only be presented if there is a conflict of claim. Preliminary trials and grand juries which double or triple trial time and cost, essentially allow the defence to have all the evidence of the prosecution. The defence then builds their case to tailor to the prosecution evidence. The defence should not have this universal right, an outline of the case is sufficient. Further, any evidence that supports criminal investigation shall be admissible, however obtained. In Detroit, the police found a list with a number of girl's names struck off. The millionaire rapist's lawyer was able to declare his "this hit list of rape victims" to be inadmissible because there was no search warrant. 10 - DISTANCE The victim shall be allowed to have videotaped testimony. In Montreal, a rape gang leader was found not guilty by Judge Luc Trudel because the victim was too afraid to testify in person. The Judge proceeded to rebuke the frightened 16 year old girl who fled the courtroom in tears. In the other four cases of his partners, the videotape testimony was allowed. A joinder of counts was not allowed. 11 - FREEDOM FROM HARASSMENT The victim shall be free from harassment. Of all places in the country where law should be practiced; it should be in a court of law. However, during cross examination, many lawyers engage in suggestion, slander, innuendo, outright fabrication, and lies to win a case. Doctors are allowed to examine, but not fondle their patients. Similarly, lawyers and judges are allowed to cross examine and instruct, but should not be allowed to harass or intimidate witnesses, especially victims. Court officials should be criminally and civilly accountable for anything they do or say in court. Judges must constantly bear in mind the rights of victims, particularly since all judges were lawyers and are generally more concerned with the accused's rights, rather than the victim's rights. 12 - DISASSOCIATION The victim is entitled to a professional trial. In a bizarre U.S. case, a convicted murderer whose death sentence had been recently commuted was allowed to defend himself, and cross examine his rape victim for two days. This was recently duplicated in Canada as accused rapist Ferreira represented himself. No victim should ever have to be subjected to this kind of assault. In the House of Commons, the Members of Parliament are guaranteed this right of disassociation. Members must address the chair, the speaker or the judge. Grown men are protected from the terrible effects of vicious barbs ;---- but an innocent defenceless rape victim is forced to relive the primal terror of a rape at the direction of their assailant. The issue of trial by jury is open to question. Professionalization might also include a professional jury. It seems very odd, that a potentially life and death decision should rest with people picked randomly off the streets, who have little or no training or experience whatsoever in law or justice. 13 - CONFRONTATION Criminals already have the right to face and to cross examine their accuser. The victim should have the equal right to confront and cross examine the accused on the stand. Criminals normally do not like to testify. However, they are a vital witness and should be required to testify. The issue of trial coaching by the lawyer needs to be examined as to morality and legality. C - DURING SENTENCING 1 - VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT The victim shall have the absolute right to make a victim impact statement. Multiple murder and rapist Paul Bernardo was well dressed, immaculately groomed, and very polite on the stand. He was very well coached by his lawyer; on what to wear and say. This deceptive presentation tends to soften a jury's opinion of a criminal. The victim impact statement should help put the account into perspective. The suffering of the victims and their families should be at the forefront of the judge and jury at sentencing. 2 - PUNISHMENT SUITING THE CRIME All crimes should be punished by an appropriate measure. The average sentence now given to a child molester is less than that given to a car thief. Thomas Eneas beat a man to death and received a mere one year sentence. Randy Kirton was given a 14 month sentence for drugging and prostituting 14 year old girls. Former Toronto Maple Leafs owner, Harold Ballard was convicted of tax evasion of a quarter of a million dollars and received a one day jail sentence by the judge. As penalties, these are absurd. Sentences should be appropriately and severely formulized; the onus being placed on the defence to reduce it, or the prosecution to increase it. A minimum and a maximum sentence should be a mandatory policy. Criminals should not be allowed to milk the taxpayers with frivolous rights such as personal development. Taxpayers paying for University rape counselling courses for Charles Ng, who raped, tortured and murdered a number of women; or serial child killer, Clifford Olsen to take law courses is totally idiotic. Honest people do not get these things free, why do criminals? 3 - TRUTH IN SENTENCING Society has the right to a sentence being truthful. Concurrent sentences for example, allow the criminal to serve many sentences at the same time. This practice should be outlawed. A million year sentence could mean one year. The Corrections and Conditional Release Act states the maximum sentence that can be served before being eligible for parole is four years, with the one weak exception of life without parole for a number of years, say 25. This is further subject to a Judicial review. The Parole Board should not be allowed to unilaterally override and ignore up to 99% of the considered sentence of the judge and jury as in Takahashi's case. 4 - PROTECTION OF POTENTIAL VICTIMS Potential victims have the right to be protected. All criminals convicted of two or more serious violent offences such as murder, rape, child molestation, drug dealing and pimping should automatically be declared DANGEROUS OFFENDERS and given infinite sentences. Almost no judicial or bureaucratic discretion to release should be allowed. Nothing, but a unanimous vote in Parliament should allow the offender to be released. 5 - SENTENCE CARRIED OUT Society, and especially crime victims, have the right to the sentence being carried out. The Correctional and Conditional Release Act gives absolute power to THE PAROLE BOARD TO RELEASE CRIMINALS. Multiple rapist Larry Takahashi was sentenced to three life terms and 89 years. And yet he was released on parole by the PAROLE BOARD in four years. The parole act states that "no offender shall be released, if by reoffending, it would pose an undue risk to society." HE COMMITTED 120 RAPES, IS THIS NOT AN UNDUE RISK TO SOCIETY??!! How many rapes does he have to commit before he is unduly dangerous and a risk? 6 - PART OF SENTENCING The victim and the Victim's Advocate should have a say in the sentencing of the offender. The victim needs to have a healing process and may wish to contribute to this legal process by suggesting compensation and punishment. The victim in a native sentencing circle has this right and is part of the legal process. 7 - COMPENSATION The victim of a crime should have the right to compensation from criminals who committed, and officials that permit a crime to be committed. An American Governor in 1995 pardoned a murderer >from the death sentence, who was subsequently released on parole; and almost immediately raped a woman. The Governor should pay substantial compensation to the victim. Justice Susan Lang found Corrections Canada largely responsible for allowing a convicted killer to escape. The "jail" apparently has no locked doors or fences. The escapee's rape victim was awarded $340,000 compensation. 8 - ACCOUNTABILITY All bureaucrats and officials should be subject to review and their competence examined. The Victim's Advocate should be allowed to challange appointments. The Correctional and Conditional Release Act section 155 provides total immunity for the Parole Board and its decisions. Many, many Canadians die every year as a result of Parole Board mistakes. And yet, they are given absolute discretionary powers; and are then allowed to write their own report card for success. No wonder their success rate is 99%! This situation is scandalous and absolutely ridiculous. Clifford Olsen committed at least four murders while he was on bail after the rape of a 15 year old girl. The justice made a decision at the time that was clearly wrong; based on dozens of serious outstanding charges of rape, assault, and child molestation. The Victims Advocate shall be empowered to initiate proceedings to an independent Competency Review Board which shall be empowered to disbar lawyers, and dismiss judges and parole officers. The victim or Victim's Advocate should be allowed to lay criminal charges such as negligent homicide and be allowed to initiate civil proceedings for damages from officials in appropriate circumstances. 9 - REPRESENTION ON PAROLE Parole should not be allowed except within the framework of the minimum sentence. The victim or the Victim's Advocate should be allowed to challenge early release. The Parole Board should not be composed of political hacks. A sensible balance of competent citizens needs to be established to serve the public good. However, since there are appeal courts, the very need of the Parole Board is debateable. 10 - OF APPEAL Criminals are protected from double jeopardy whereby they can only be charged once for a crime and yet they are allowed seemingly infinite appeals. Such publicly funded appeals should not be allowed. The taxpayers of Canada paid over five million dollars fighting Charles Ng's deportation to the U.S.; where he faced the death sentence for multiple rape, torture and murder. One limited appeal should be allowed. The victim should be allowed the same appeal rights. Higher courts should be allowed to refuse, and perhaps required to refuse further appeals. Ng's American lawyer expects to make over 20 million dollars in the defence of this evil criminal. Ng's videotaped rapes, torture and murder should require that a jury take a mere five minutes to come to a decision. Victims of crime have had enough. Their needs and rights must now be addressed. From email@example.com Mon Sep 23 13:19:33 PDT 1996 Article: 44361 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!netaxs.com!hunter.premier.net!news1.erols.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!tribune.usask.ca!mongol.sasknet.sk.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.sas.ab.ca!intphase From: firstname.lastname@example.org () Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: white people vs the government Date: 23 Sep 1996 08:30:32 GMT Organization: Edmonton FreeNet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Lines: 53 Message-ID: <email@example.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet.edmonton.ab.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.5] 1¾ Social and economic policies of government will exterminate the white people of this country. Fact: (Vital Statistics) the birth rate of white people is about 1.4. Fact: This means total extinction in about 70 years, a sustained 2.2 birthrate maintains population. This genocide is due to the most comprehensive policy of government ever devised in history. Most "Western countries" have adopted or are implementing these policies. 1. Economic Policy. In Canada, white people are only allowed a mere 10% of all government grants and bank loans, although they represent nearly 80% of the population. Foreigners, immigrants, and other races receive 90% of all funding. Affirmative Actions Programs such as that of the City of Edmonton, disbarred all white males from the 1996 fire- fighter employment. Unemployment for young white males is at least 30%, two or three times higher than normal. 2. Social Policy. Since young white men are discriminated against in employment, it will be very difficult to court, marry or raise families. Young women will be forced to marry coloured men to sire their children. There are far more coloured men marrying white women than white men marrying coloured women. Clearly white men, and coloured women are severely discriminated against. In advertising, media and educat- ional materials white to white parings are disturbingly rare. 3. Homosexuals. To ensure further reductions of births FEMINAZIS are encouraged and financed by our government. In schoolbooks there is little or no reference to raising a family. A satanic approach to the pursuit of money is all that matters. A woman's role as mother is defiled, and the seed of life destroyed. Families have no rights, but homosexuals have legal rights, protections,guarantees and protection. Taxpayers are subsidizing perverted lifestyles which would lead to the extermination of our race. 4. Criminals. It is no accident that the Immigration Department imports thousands of criminals into Canada every year. Drug dealers and pimps, most immigrant and visible minorities, are encouraged to come to Canada, with welcome arms from the Government. If ordered deported by the courts, the Immigration Department will often stay the order. If convicted, jail terms are lightly served in our hotel -prisons. This is obscene compared to the vicious punishment these scum inflict on their victims, mostly young white people. Almost 50% of battered women who go to shelters in Canada are turned away. Every dirty little immigrant who says he is a refugee is immediately given two years of hotels, heath care, lawyers, appeals, food allowances, training and support. We spend 2 billion dollars on these scum, our own people get cutbacks or nothing at all. From firstname.lastname@example.org Mon Sep 23 17:42:10 PDT 1996 Article: 126355 of soc.culture.african.american Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!noc.van.hookup.net!hookup!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!cpk-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!van-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.sas.ab.ca!intphase From: email@example.com () Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.radical-left,soc.culture.african.american,pa.politics Subject: Re: Moratorium on Death Penalty Followup-To: alt.activism.death-penalty,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.radical-left,soc.culture.african.american,pa.politics Date: 23 Sep 1996 18:06:12 GMT Organization: Edmonton FreeNet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Lines: 20 Message-ID: <firstname.lastname@example.org> References: <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> <email@example.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet.edmonton.ab.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.5] Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.activism.death-penalty:33801 alt.politics.usa.misc:114000 alt.politics.radical-left:121008 soc.culture.african.american:126355 Roger Phillips (firstname.lastname@example.org) wrote: : As a Brit I would be interested to know what you guys do for a living. : Are you LEOs? The death penalty has been an outmoded form of : punishment for many years in the UK. In my view quite right too. I : suspect you are not police officers. What many of us in the UK do : believe that where a person is convicted of murder and are given life : - that is what it should mean. There is only one entity who may take : life and it is not us. Just a personal view - but valid all the : same. I am a counsellor for victims of crime, most of whom are victimized by criminals on parole or passes. In Canada the average sentence served by a life criminal is less than ten years. 120 time rapist Takahashi was given 3 life terms and 89 years. He was released on day pass to play golf in four years. The entity gave us the Bible. If I recall my religious quotes. He that smiteth a man so that he die shall surely be put to death.
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