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Article: 39281 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: ourhero@village.ios.com (our hero)
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Subject: thoughts from an ongoing debate . .
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 07:53:10 GMT
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The following is a copy of part of a discussion I've had with a
THINKING PERSON  . . .i emphasize the term 'thinking person' becuase
it is almost impossible to have a calm rational discussion about these
issues with people who don't agree with Pro-Aryan thinking . . . this
excerpt only covers my side of the discussino, i plan to post my
opposing debators responce to this -- i will also see if I can get him
to send me the transcript of our debate on IRC to repost here


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>I am sorry that I was unable to speak the other day . .  .
>
>I noticed an interesting story on the cover of the village voice (which of
>course I don't buy) but it said something to the effect that certain people
>are immune to aids.  Just glancing at the cover, it seemed that both of the
>men photographed where general nordic types - which brings me back to the
>point I was trying to make the other day - yes I know that as you say the
>various races are not truly seperate enough to qualify as different species
>but for the sake of having different 'immunity pools' wouldn't it be a good
>idea to develop these (ie: to develop different species of human beings) --
>thus ensuring that if there where a disease such as aids - that it would not
>wipe out the entire human race. Just think how the indians where wiped out
by diseases carried form europe - but more of them might have survived
if
they had evolved into seperate species or races. Of course I am also
concerned and disturbed by an evil that faces a group of organisms
when they
become to 'specialized' or 'separated' from the main - namely the
adverse
effects of inbreeding -- and I don't really understand why it is that
'inbreeding' produces malignant effect - yet the various races must
have
began from inbreeding at some point -- why is the factor that makes
inbreeding lead to the creation of a successful new race as oppossed
to a
colony of genetic defects? (this I would like to know) --- the
ultimate
nightmare would be to suggest that the various european types enact
'voluntary eugenics' only to have the whole thing back fire with
'inbreeding-like' results..  
>
>
>Now of course, I have to admit that my -wanting- this to be the case (namely
>- to have purer more intelligent european races) is not driven solely by a
>concern for immunization strains - No, the drive behind my reasoning is
>because I have lived among different groups of people - and have seen how
various groups of people act when no one else (other than their own
kind) is
around - and i have come to the conclusion that some 'races' are more
advanced (by western standards) than others (and i emphasize 'western'
because the african, being more in touch with the primitive animistic
instinct is far more advanced in things involving instinct, or
feeling, or
what i term 'the occult'). So I feel that some groups are more
advanced
(under a european measurement system) and we should seek to emulate,
isolate, and multiply those advanced groups.  Incidently opinions do
not
always run along color lines -- i have found the irish to have
inherited the
physical characteristics of nordic man but not the intelligence -- on
this
level the irishman is as low as many non-white groups (if not lower
becuase
of his violent nature), the same holds true to many southern italians
and
scililians.  I have found the jew (although the race will vary) to be
culturally and genetically (in the case of the ashkenazic and
sephardic
races) to be inferior primarily because of their institutionalized
intolerance of their religion and for their general lack of morals --
the
one thing i find emulateable about the jews is their respect for
knowledge -
however i do not find them to be smarter than the average european
(although
they want everyone to believe so and are constantly implying it)
rather they
have a WILL or wanting to be more knowledgable.  Of course every rule
has
exceptions so it is always possible to pull a 'rabbit out of the hat'
to
disprove every generalization, but in order to talk about large
numbers of
people one must generalize in order to say any kind of statement. 
>
>------------
>
>
>Also, as I ponder all these things, and also contemplate of the probability
that I may be wrong about them - because I do not know everything (nor
does
anyone), 
>In particular, I am not a person who is not able to admit a mistake or to
change my views when I learn something new, one change in me that has
occcurred is my respect for the concept of FREEDOM. (incidentaly,
freedom
has always been held in high esteem by most nordic and germanic races
and in
fact the concept of democracy was invented in ICELAND under the
'Althing').
>
>
>
>I am learning to appreciate the concept of FREEDOM, and that is why i have
taken the standpoint of 'voluntary-ism' meaning that I will give
leaway for
the possiblity that my ideas may be wrong, and thus I am not speaking
out
-against- as much as I am speaking out -in support of- various issues.
For
example, I won't create a room saying 'blacks are savages' but I will
create
a room called 'how can we (whites) become more civilized' - which I
say
rather than 'whites -are- civilized' 
>
>because i am finding that to be less and less the case (cf. irish,
italians, jews, and lower classes of every european race).  It always
rends
my heart when I have to lose a certain ammount of respect for a group
of
people becuase of the actions of some of them -- and it is also
heart-rending when I come in contact with the declined modern
ancestors of
prior great races - such as italians, greeks etc.. it is very sad --
and I
don't want this to continue to happen -- why should it have to happen
to
everyone but the jews? - this angers and frustrates me and I have
spend many
hours asking myself -- why have the jews survived -why is there no
'eternal
frenchman' or 'eternal greek'?  . . . . 
>Further more it angers me many people I think) not only do not ponder these
questions but when confronted with them they flee in terror, or
angrily
spout irrational hatred slogans . . .
>
>
>Anyway I am digressing a bit - but I bring up the concept of freedom with
you becuase when you spoke of 'genetic emotions and predispositions'
etc.. I
great dread came over me that one day people like me will cease to
exist
because we will not have 'the right to ' or the 'freedom' to.  Most
dreadful
of all is the knowledge that the jew is totally intollerant, and has
no
respect for freedom ' god has given the world for him to be fruitful
and
multiply' not to respect other forms of life.  The jew sees everyone
and
everything else as 'his to use',  and incidently this jewish
weltanschauung
permeates through christianity and through western corporations..  
>
>I dread came over me when you started saying that maybe some of my ideas
are genetic to me (which is probably true) but I felt that you were
taking
the posibition that 'this is an illness - it must be cured' and that
reminded me how important freedom is -- this is why i will not ever be
on
the side of anyone who  forces people to do something or imposes his
ideas
or will on others - this is why even though I -do- believe it would be
in
the best interest of the human race for africans, jews, irish and
lower
classes to stop breeding - I will not say that they -have- to nor
would I
support anyone who try to force them to.  This is also why rather than
have
a chat room open for all peoples i created my various chat rooms and
specifically restricted certain groups - namely because I only wanted
to
talk about 'pro-white' issues rather than touch on non-white subjects
-- the
exception being the jews...
>
>I did and will condemn and attack them because their aspirations infring on
the freedom and survival of not just whites but all the other (free?)
races
of the world -- but this is another discussion too long to begin in
this
letter...
>
>
>-OURHERO 'The Spirit of Our Hero Adolf Hitler'
>






From ourhero@village.ios.com Tue Aug 13 09:32:34 PDT 1996
Article: 39274 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: ourhero@village.ios.com (our hero)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: transcripts from an IRC chat - puterman.log (0/2)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 1996 08:08:03 GMT
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attached is a text file with the transcripts of an IRC chat - this
posting is connected with my posting entitled 'Thoughts . . .' this
shoudlbe read before in order to understand the previous posting.
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From ourhero@village.ios.com Tue Aug 13 09:32:36 PDT 1996
Article: 39282 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: ourhero@village.ios.com (our hero)
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Subject: transcripts from an IRC chat - puterman.log (1/2)
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