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Subject: 40 Questions about the holocaust hoax
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These are very interesting questions:


Dan Cook  wrote:
>        1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>
>        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of individual
>"survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have witnessed any
>gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds of ashes, no piles
>of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job, no human soap, no
>lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no demographic statistics.
>
>        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a forensic,
>demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and comparative nature
>which clearly proves the impossibility of such a figure as six million
>Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>
>
>        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING WORLD
>WAR TWO?
>
>        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their race or
>national origin alone.
>
>
>        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE CONCENTRATION
>CAMPS?
>
>        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to their
>national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out. Jews were
>overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion during the
>Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly overrepresented in
>government, commercial, and media positions. However, ALL suspected security
>risks, not just Jews, were in danger of internment once the war broke out.
>
>        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on Germany and
>ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because the German
>government had removed Jews from influential positions and transferred power
>back to the German people. The boycott order and the Jewish war against
>Germany were reported in the world print and broadcast media of the time.
>False stories of German "death camps" were in fact circulated even before
>the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore the German view of the Jewish
>people as enemy aliens would seem to have been fully justified.
>
>
>        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY DEATH
>CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>
>        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the gassing
>of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>
>
>        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT WAS
>NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>        
>        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally murdered
>dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs were led through
>the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas chambers. This story was
>later quietly expunged from official Holocaust lore because it became too
>difficult to maintain in the face of known fact and because Dachau was in
>the Allied occupation zone where access to the camp was too easy and
>unrestricted. 
>
>        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp" version
>gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of the Holocaust
>myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who noticed discrepancies in
>what they had seen and what they read in official accounts. It would be many
>years, though, before this early Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum. 
>
>
>        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT GAS
>CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>
>        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could not
>possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too small and it
>is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred Leuchter, who
>builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took scrapings from the
>walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical analysis. He found no
>cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is a fake, pure and simple, a
>flimsy tourist trap.        
>
>
>        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>
>        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber (Buna)
>was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the same way in
>which inmate labor is increasingly being used in correctional systems
>throughout the United States today.
>
>
>        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>
>        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic gas.
>It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the fumigation of
>lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was applied at Auschwitz.
>Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is commonly used and available
>today.
>
>
>        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>
>        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the figure
>of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not read. Some
>pages of the original document are literally stained with Hoess' blood.
>Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be cross examined.
>
>
>        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED WITH
>ZYKLON-B?
>
>        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved and
>technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians only are
>employed.
>
>
>        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD ENTER THE
>GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE THE BODIES. HOW
>DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>
>        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like that.
>Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate as the
>allegedly exterminated Jews.
>
>
>        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE CIGARETTES
>AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES BEFORE HAD BEEN
>FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>        
>        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>million figure as well. 
>
>
>        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET FROM
>JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE VATICAN, THE
>INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE NOT KNOW?
>
>        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have been
>kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who were
>fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially powerful
>propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at all during
>the war that such an event was occurring. 
>
>
>        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DURING
>THE WAR?
>
>        About 300,000.
>
>
>        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>
>        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe
>during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears whenever
>people are jammed together for long periods without bathing. It is carried
>by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used
>more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews might have survived the
>concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well as many others) also died
>from starvation and lack of medical attention towards the end of the war
>when virtually all rail and road transport had come to a standstill due to
>the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>
>
>        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000 DIED?
>
>        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a deliberate,
>systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to exterminate the Jews of
>Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there was not, and the focus of
>world attention now needs to shift to the identity, the activities, and the
>financial and political motivations of those who have inflicted on all
>humanity for the past fifty years the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie
>that there was a "Holocaust".
>
>
>        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW BODIES
>BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE BEEN USED TO
>PERFORM THIS ACT?
>
>        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have afforded to
>waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.        
>
>
>        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>
>        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own observations
>of both Communist and American atrocities in both the American and Rhodesian
>armed forces that it is impossible completely to destroy human bodies en
>masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any other way in open pits. The
>Holocaust "experts" who claim otherwise are either parroting what they have
>been told without bothering to check their facts, or else they are lying.]
>
>
>        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE BODIES IN
>ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY ACCORDING TO
>PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>
>        About two hours.
>
>
>        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>
>        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>typhus and other diseases.
>
>
>        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL THE
>CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CORPSES
>WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE ENTIRE TIME THE
>CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>
>        About 430,600.
>
>
>        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>
>        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours per
>day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in
>heavy operation.
>        
>
>        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED CORPSE?
>        
>        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate time-consuming
>process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>
>
>        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>
>        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would produce
>literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been no
>discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or anywhere
>else in Europe.
>
>
>        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR, SHOW
>ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>
>        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do they
>show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were burned.
>
>
>        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE WHOLE
>"HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
>
>        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in September
>of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive packages and that
>rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The full official report of
>the International Red Cross on the Second World War makes no mention at all
>of the so-called Holocaust or any of the wilder allegations connected with
>the so-called Holocaust. 
>
>        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the liberal
>media in America and Europe began running a series of articles claiming that
>the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This charge is entirely bogus
>and may be chalked up to belated Jewish attempts at damage control as the
>Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in the light of factual examination and
>critical analysis.
>        
>
>        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>
>        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb Felderer of
>Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves conclusively that the
>published version of the famous diary is a literary hoax. There was a girl
>named Anne Frank, and sections of the diary appear to be genuine, including
>several wherein she describes adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which
>were later excised from the published text. 
>
>        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in New
>York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years. When the
>original diary was put on display a few years later, it was noticed that the
>most poignant sections of the book were interpolations written in a forged
>handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument which was not invented
>until 1950. The original diary was swiftly removed from exhibit and whisked
>away into a safety deposit box in Israel. It has never been produced for
>examination since then despite repeated attempts by scholars to view it.
>
>
>        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES AND
>PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>
>        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning. Corpses of
>German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead Jews. One famous
>and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS man" about to shoot a
>mother holding her child; on closer examination of the blurry print with a
>magnifiying glass, it is clear to military historians familiar with the
>uniforms and weapons of the period that the killer is a Red Army soldier
>wielding a Russian-made carbine. 
>
>        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for atrocities
>actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin remains common, even
>though some of the more notorious examples like the Katyn Forest massacre of
>Polish prisoners have now been properly laid at the door of the Kremlin.
>That this kind of fraud continues to be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts"
>is not surprising in view of the fact that almost all of them espouse
>Marxist or extreme left-wing views and are as quick to apologize for and
>explain away Stalin's butcheries as they are to invent fraudulent crimes
>attributed to Adolf Hitler. The almost universally leftist political and
>social orientation of Holocaust defenders is important and should always be
>born in mind when examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is
>almost as important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler
>and the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay's
>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith asked
>him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>
>
>        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH SIX
>MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>        
>        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly have
>been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed, the
>Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>        
>
>        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>
>        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a deliberate
>extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to light. No
>signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich Himmler, or from any
>other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the extermination of the Jews
>has ever been discovered. The Nazis were meticulous records-keepers and
>literally tons of documents were seized by the Allies at the end of the war,
>so many it took Allied archivists and scholars years to organize, file, and
>catalog them all. Nothing. Zip. Nada. 
>
>
>        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND DURING
>THE WAR?
>
>        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews from
>Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and they
>maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German official in
>charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then British-occupied Palestine
>(including future Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann;
>after the war the Holocaust industry considered this secret so volatile and
>dangerous that Eichmann was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently
>murdered in order to silence him.
>
>
>        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY THE
>GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>
>        Slightly less than four million.
>
>
>        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE NAZIS?
>
>        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to kill them.
>
>
>        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>
>        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United States,
>Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000, they are all
>accounted for.
>
>
>        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE TODAY?
>
>        It shields them from any criticism over their political, economic,
>and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense sums of "guilt
>money", especially from the German government. It justifies aid to the state
>of Israel totaling almost $10 billion dollars per year from various sources.
>Israel has received almost $70 billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust
>reparations" and the ante is growing every year. It is clearly in the
>interest of Israel and the Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>
>
>        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE WINDS
>OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
>
>        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be. They
>are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not real
>people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of events that
>did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a screenplay written by
>Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews are very highly
>overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the creative and financial
>sectors of film making. 
>
>        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history that in
>recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have begun to
>express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the character of
>Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg's production of
>"Schindler's List" was sanitized to the point of being unrecognizable.
>Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none of those still
>living who remember the man have a single good word to say about him. The
>real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a libertine and degenerate
>gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual relations with young female
>camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife and fled with his mistress to
>Brazil after embezzling a large sum of money. Other major directors like
>Oliver Stone have come under fire because their portrayals of historical
>characters like Nixon and events like the JFK assassination reflect a
>paranoid obsession with the most bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>
>
>        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>        Over 100, with more in the works.
>
>
>        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST ANTI-SEMITIC OR
>NEO-NAZIS?
>
>        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same right
>to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so freely to Jews
>and liberals in this purportedly free society is never explained. The NSWPP
>is a National Socialist organization, although unlike the Jews we
>acknowledge our identity and our ideological position in the open. Most
>Revisionists, however, are academics, genuine scholars who seek only the
>truth. Many hold liberal or libertarian views, although these views often
>change as they are subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies
>any deviation from the official orthodocy on the Holocaust.
>
>
>        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL VERSION
>OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have always
>refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with Revisionists. An
>Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose called Nizkor does not in
>fact debate Revisionists, but engages in hysterical campaigns of ad hominem
>abuse against anyone who dares to express any dissent or doubt in re
>Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear from many of the postings to Nizkor's
>Internet playgroups that they have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews
>but some left-liberal Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial
>bigotry and ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in
>some cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>
>        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with hatred,
>violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest giveaway that they
>have something to hide. In many countries those who ask politically
>incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust are arrested, tortured,
>and imprisoned. 
>
>        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat him so
>badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major Revisionist
>bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto Revisionist author Ernst
>Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson attack. Zundel was subjected
>to a bizarre series of show trials lasting over ten years, and after being
>finally acquitted he has been denied Canadian citizenship and is still
>battling attempts to deport him to prison and torture in Germany. 
>
>        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a lengthy
>prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing pro-National Socialist
>commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is legal. Another American citizen,
>Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also abducted, held in prison in Germany for
>almost a year, and released only after an international outcry. Schmidt's
>"crime" was writing a pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter
>published and distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred
>Roeder has been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have
>been stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and subjected
>to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>
>        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people who
>are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else, the
>behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly proves
>that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true, neither the Jews
>nor any state authority would need to use force to silence criticism, any
>more than force need be used against people who believe the earth is flat.
>The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and torchings are the moral equivalent
>of a full confession on the part of the Jewish people that they are
>contemptible liars who have imposed the most massive and vicious hoax in
>history on all of humanity, and have used that hoax as an excuse to rob us
>blind, steal another people's country, and then to slaughter that country's
>original inhabitants at will, as according to National Public Radio they are
>doing even now as I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>       
>
>        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING REVISIONISTS?
>
>        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever to
>ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth understand
>how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and robbed them for
>over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There can be little doubt
>that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will be accepted by mainstream
>historians and the public at large for what it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>
>
>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a pamphlet
>provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further information on
>Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>
>
>	"This destiny does not tire, nor can it be broken, and its mantle of
>strength descends upon those in its service." - Francis Parker Yockey, IMPERIUM
>
>
>




From Dailey@Gramercy.ios.com Wed Oct  2 09:53:21 PDT 1996
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Subject: The Kosher Tax: Non Jews have to pay.
Date: 2 Oct 1996 14:56:25 GMT
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SECRET KOSHER TAX BOOSTS FOOD PRICES 

 A Special Report put out by: 
THE TRUTH AT LAST - P.O. Box 1211, Marietta, Georgia  30061
and:  Be Wise As Serpents:  http://www.pixi.com/~bewise   Mail
to:bewise@pixi.com

SECRET KOSHER FOOD TAX INFLATES FOOD COSTS

Christians Are Unaware That All Food Products Marked
With the "K" or "U" Symbols Have Been Taxed By Jewish Rabbis!

     On every pantry shelf in America lay dozens of canned and packaged food
products which have a tiny "K" or "U" printed on the label. This symbol informs
Orthodox Jews that the items have been checked by a rabbi to make sure that 
they have been prepared in accordance with "Jewish Dietary law" as set forth 
in the Jewish Talmud -(the real "bible" of the Jews.) Note: See description of
the Talmud at the end of this article.

     American food companies are forced to pay multi-millions of dollars to
several Orthodox Jewish organizations just so an estimated 10% to 20% of Jewry,
(or 800,000 to no more than 1.2 million Orthodox Jews), will buy their products. 
Please bear in mind that this is a country of  260 million people and we are all forced to
pay this Kosher Tax just to appease LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION! This comes out of YOUR pocket.

What Does "Kosher" Mean?

     The word "Kosher" means "fit" to eat. Orthodox Jews are forbidden from
eating meat products from any animal that doesn't have a split hoof and chew 
its cud. Pigs, (pork), is not kosher because while they do have the split hooves,
they don't chew their cud. Rabbit meat is not kosher because, while they chew
their cud, they don't have split hooves. Jews are not allowed to eat any dairy 
products along with meat at the same meal. If they eat meat at one meal they 
must wait six hours before they can eat any dairy food.

     All of this is superstitious nonsense and has absolutely nothing to do
with improving the quality of any food product.  Still, this clever scheme
of requiring kosher labeling has become a multi-million dollar business
today!  The Jewish Encyclopedia of 1942 states that the practice of eating
rabbi-approved "kosher" foods goes back to ancient times when Jews were
forbidden from eating with or having sex with Gentiles. The Encyclopedia
says rabbis taught that "Gentiles are ridden with diseases and death from
unclean habits and that God wishes to protect his people from being
contaminated by the Gentiles. The non-kosher goods of the Gentiles were
ruled to have a contaminating effect!" How racist !

Falsehoods Used To Entice Christians To Accept Kosher Products

     One of our subscriber's wrote the "Aunt Jane Foods Co." in Faison, N.C.
asking how much they pay annually for the use of the "U" symbol.  Ms. Donna 
Fonvielle, head of Customer Relations, responded that Jews told them that
by submitting to rabbinical supervision they are informing the public that 
"kosher products are produced under sanitary conditions."

     The Jewish Press of Feb. 26, 1988, quotes Menachem Lubinsky, a major
marketer of kosher products as saying, "the industry should tell inquisitive 
Christians this line, Kosher has become something like the 'Good Housekeeping
Seal of Approva1'.  It makes a product appear to be healthier and of better quality."

     The Washington Post of Nov. 2, 1987 quotes Rabbi Schulem Rubin, an 
Orthodox rabbi from the Bronx as declaring:  "Kosher doesn't taste any better;
kosher isn't healthier; kosher doesn't have less salmonella. You can eat a Holly
Farm chicken which sells for 39 cents a pound on sale and next taste a Kosher
chicken selling for $1.69 a pound and not tell the difference. There's a lot
of money to be made! Religion is not based on logic!"

     The Sun-Sentinel of  March 20, 1987, quotes Rabbi Irving Silverman, who
organized the recent giant Kosher Foods Exposition in New York City as stating:
"There's one misconception I would like to clear up.   There's a perception that the
Jewish dietary laws are steeped in health considerations. That's not so at
all. It is a commitment to a strict adherence to a tradition, a thread from
one generation to another.  I'm not kosher because its' healthier - I'm
kosher because my parents were kosher and my grandparents were kosher.  Its
a commitment!"

     Rabbi Bernard Levy, head of the Orthodox, "Committee For The
Furtherance of  Torah Observance," demonstrates how he stamps the Kosher 
symbol which has made him untold millions of dollars.(Tax free)

     There would be no objection if the small Orthodox Jewish community made
their own kosher products and paid for them as they did before the kosher business
was launched in 1919 for the general public. The problem lies in the fact
that the meaning of these kosher labels is a tightly guarded secret of which
most Christians have no knowledge.

     America's huge manufacturers of processed food products keep a tight
lid on this subject so that no explanation is ever allowed to seep out to the public.
They only run ads announcing which products are kosher in Jewish publications and NEVER in the daily press or on TV.  This subject i=
s so sensitive that few daily 
newspapers dare to carry articles about this controversy.  Growing numbers
of Christians who become aware of the secret kosher tax object to being forced
to pay it. This is a clear violation of the U.S.Constitution.

Who Receives The Kosher Food Tax Money?

     In 1960 there were only 225 companies paying the kosher food tax. This
jumped to 475 in 1966 and 800 by 1975. Jewish promoters of kosher labeling
say there now has been a "kosher food explosion" today with over 16,000
products now paying rabbinical organizations for their "stamp of kosher approval."   Kosher products retail sales today amount to $3=
0 billion a year according to 
"The Chicago Jewish Sentinel" of July 7, 1988.

     Orthodox Jewish organizations have copyrighted certain symbols which
only they can use. The giant in the business is "The Union of Orthodox Jewish
Congregations" which issues the "U" imprint. They service some 1,200 
companies or about 80% of the business. They employ nearly 600 rabbis
as part-time "checkers." This is twice as many as ten years ago. The next 
largest is Rabbi Bernard Levy's "Committee For The Furtherance of Torah 
Observance" which uses the "K" symbol.  

     Canadian Kosher products are stamped with the letters "COR" which
stands for "Council of Orthodox Rabbis". This is a front group for the powerful
Canadian Jewish Congress which actually receives all the money from this tax.
The Jews in Canada are so united they do not allow any competition which is 
not the case in the U.S. Here a number of Orthodox rabbis have split away from
the major groups to go into the kosher racket for themselves. (Why split easy 
money with the higher ups?) Note: This is not Just a problem in the United
States and Canada. All nations with an Orthodox Jewish population are being
Extorted this way. Any were you have agents of the World Jewish Congress,
you have this form of Racketeering. Do to NAFTA, Mexico is flooded with
this problem. 100 Million Mexicans, mostly Catholic, have to pay tribute to
Jews in this manner.

     Rabbi Jack Goldman was formerly with the Orthodox Jewish Congregation
but broke away and now runs the "Metropolitan Kashruth Council of Michigan ". 
He has several rabbis working for him and they issue an "MK" label. Some 
believe this stands for "Michigan Kosher." It is said that had he remained in the 
New York-New Jersey area his life would have been in danger. Note: The symbols
differ from country to country, to find out what symbols are use in your nation, check
advertisements in Jewish news papers and magazines.

     Minnesota has Rabbi Asher Zeilingold who immigrated there in 1953 from
England and today issues his own "K with a shield" to some ISO factories.

     This is strictly a religious tax which millions of Christians
unknowingly pay each time they buy a basket load of groceries! What would 
happen if a group of Christian ministers or priests got together and demanded that all 
companies pay them a similar tax? They could use a "C," symbol (for Christian), 
or a cross, (for Christ), threatening that those who refuse to print such a label
on their products would be boycotted by Christians.

     If that happened you would hear an enraged outcry from the ACLU,
American Jewish Committee, Jewish Anti-Defamation League, etc. They would
be filing suits to stop this "violation of  the Constitutional provisions providing for the separation of Church and State." But, be=
cause of the Jews' centuries old claim of 
being "a poor persecuted people" along with the Christian fear of being accused of
"anti-Semitism," there is a deafening silence on this problem.

The Great Kosher Scandal Will One Day Explode

The New York Times, a Jewish owned daily, in a rare article on this subject
back on May 18, 1975, reported that kosher symbols are deliberately printed
"unobtrusively on labels" so that they will go unnoticed by Christians. In
Jewish publications large ads are run to instruct Jews to buy only kosher
marked items. In other words, the Jews are boycotting all products which do
not pay the kosher tax! The biggest secret of all is the exact ANNUAL amount
these companies pay to Orthodox rabbis. This same "Times" article stated:
"Neither kosher group will disclose what gross revenues  are, nor, are
corporations anxious to make their own payments public."

     How often do we hear our congressmen demand that there be "truth in
advertising" and that the "consumer must be protected?"

     "The Times" writer, Leonard Sloane, quizzed Rabbi Bernard Levy about
this and only received an evasive reply. Levy stated that the average cost to a concern
for kosher inspections runs from $1,000 for a "mom and pop" operation to $40,000 per
plant for the larger corporations.  But, he quickly added, that these charges can go much
higher because they are "all keyed to the frequency of inspection which
could be on a continuous, daily, weekly, monthly or quarterly basis."

     The rabbi decides how often your plant must be inspected.  Remember,
these are figures from 1975 - HOW MUCH HIGHER ARE THEY TODAY?

Jewish Editor Calls Kosher Labeling A"'Racket"

The Jewish Newsletter is published by William Zukerman.  In 1970 he came out
with a super-sensational article charging that Orthodox rabbis had turned the
kosher labeling business into a multi-million dollar racket.  He said that absolutely
nothing which does not contain meat or a meat by-product needs a kosher
label.  He quotes Mrs. Weiss-Rosmarin, "the greatest rabbinical authority,"
as testifying that no soft drink, Coca-Cola, nor any other drink needs
kosher approval.  

     Zuckerman charges that "unscrupulous or bogus rabbis" are in back of
this "racket" and when eventually exposed, "this will develop into a scandal
which will rock organized Jewry to its foundation:"  

     The B'nai B'rith Messenger in its April 2, 1965 edition warned that "a
nationally known rabbi who had promised to expose the kosher racket was
allegedly told to shut-up or else!" Zuckerman has stated that Jews who dare
to speak out against the Kosher Food Racket face physical danger.  Powerful
people do not want any of their own kind to rock the boat by exposing this
multi-million dollar fraud.

     American food products are already checked by local and federal
governmental agencies for purity and edibility. Jewish kosher certification in no way
whatsoever makes them any more sanitary or wholesome.  Orthodox Jewish
organizations send rabbis to all the food companies in America.  They tell
them that Jews will refuse to buy their products if they are not marked with
the "U" or "K" kosher symbol. The truth is that only Orthodox Jews, (less
than 1.2 million), follow kosher dietary laws. The rabbis broadly hint that
any refusal to pay for these "kosher inspections" would indicate that they
are "unfriendly or insensitive" to Jewry. They a labeled 
anti-Semites and all hell breaks loose THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF
A VEILED THREAT OF PURE BLACKMAIL AND IS  ILLEGAL! 
If someone with  an Italian last name did this, they would be in prison by now.


From Dailey@Gramercy.ios.com Wed Oct  2 10:15:14 PDT 1996
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SECRET KOSHER TAX BOOSTS FOOD PRICES 

 A Special Report put out by: 
THE TRUTH AT LAST - P.O. Box 1211, Marietta, Georgia  30061
and:  Be Wise As Serpents:  http://www.pixi.com/~bewise   Mail
to:bewise@pixi.com

SECRET KOSHER FOOD TAX INFLATES FOOD COSTS

Christians Are Unaware That All Food Products Marked
With the "K" or "U" Symbols Have Been Taxed By Jewish Rabbis!

     On every pantry shelf in America lay dozens of canned and packaged food
products which have a tiny "K" or "U" printed on the label. This symbol informs
Orthodox Jews that the items have been checked by a rabbi to make sure that 
they have been prepared in accordance with "Jewish Dietary law" as set forth 
in the Jewish Talmud -(the real "bible" of the Jews.) Note: See description of
the Talmud at the end of this article.

     American food companies are forced to pay multi-millions of dollars to
several Orthodox Jewish organizations just so an estimated 10% to 20% of Jewry,
(or 800,000 to no more than 1.2 million Orthodox Jews), will buy their products. 
Please bear in mind that this is a country of  260 million people and we are all forced to
pay this Kosher Tax just to appease LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION! This comes out of YOUR pocket.

What Does "Kosher" Mean?

     The word "Kosher" means "fit" to eat. Orthodox Jews are forbidden from
eating meat products from any animal that doesn't have a split hoof and chew 
its cud. Pigs, (pork), is not kosher because while they do have the split hooves,
they don't chew their cud. Rabbit meat is not kosher because, while they chew
their cud, they don't have split hooves. Jews are not allowed to eat any dairy 
products along with meat at the same meal. If they eat meat at one meal they 
must wait six hours before they can eat any dairy food.

     All of this is superstitious nonsense and has absolutely nothing to do
with improving the quality of any food product.  Still, this clever scheme
of requiring kosher labeling has become a multi-million dollar business
today!  The Jewish Encyclopedia of 1942 states that the practice of eating
rabbi-approved "kosher" foods goes back to ancient times when Jews were
forbidden from eating with or having sex with Gentiles. The Encyclopedia
says rabbis taught that "Gentiles are ridden with diseases and death from
unclean habits and that God wishes to protect his people from being
contaminated by the Gentiles. The non-kosher goods of the Gentiles were
ruled to have a contaminating effect!" How racist !

Falsehoods Used To Entice Christians To Accept Kosher Products

     One of our subscriber's wrote the "Aunt Jane Foods Co." in Faison, N.C.
asking how much they pay annually for the use of the "U" symbol.  Ms. Donna 
Fonvielle, head of Customer Relations, responded that Jews told them that
by submitting to rabbinical supervision they are informing the public that 
"kosher products are produced under sanitary conditions."

     The Jewish Press of Feb. 26, 1988, quotes Menachem Lubinsky, a major
marketer of kosher products as saying, "the industry should tell inquisitive 
Christians this line, Kosher has become something like the 'Good Housekeeping
Seal of Approva1'.  It makes a product appear to be healthier and of better quality."

     The Washington Post of Nov. 2, 1987 quotes Rabbi Schulem Rubin, an 
Orthodox rabbi from the Bronx as declaring:  "Kosher doesn't taste any better;
kosher isn't healthier; kosher doesn't have less salmonella. You can eat a Holly
Farm chicken which sells for 39 cents a pound on sale and next taste a Kosher
chicken selling for $1.69 a pound and not tell the difference. There's a lot
of money to be made! Religion is not based on logic!"

     The Sun-Sentinel of  March 20, 1987, quotes Rabbi Irving Silverman, who
organized the recent giant Kosher Foods Exposition in New York City as stating:
"There's one misconception I would like to clear up.   There's a perception that the
Jewish dietary laws are steeped in health considerations. That's not so at
all. It is a commitment to a strict adherence to a tradition, a thread from
one generation to another.  I'm not kosher because its' healthier - I'm
kosher because my parents were kosher and my grandparents were kosher.  Its
a commitment!"

     Rabbi Bernard Levy, head of the Orthodox, "Committee For The
Furtherance of  Torah Observance," demonstrates how he stamps the Kosher 
symbol which has made him untold millions of dollars.(Tax free)

     There would be no objection if the small Orthodox Jewish community made
their own kosher products and paid for them as they did before the kosher business
was launched in 1919 for the general public. The problem lies in the fact
that the meaning of these kosher labels is a tightly guarded secret of which
most Christians have no knowledge.

     America's huge manufacturers of processed food products keep a tight
lid on this subject so that no explanation is ever allowed to seep out to the public.
They only run ads announcing which products are kosher in Jewish publications and NEVER in the daily press or on TV.  This subject i=
s so sensitive that few daily 
newspapers dare to carry articles about this controversy.  Growing numbers
of Christians who become aware of the secret kosher tax object to being forced
to pay it. This is a clear violation of the U.S.Constitution.

Who Receives The Kosher Food Tax Money?

     In 1960 there were only 225 companies paying the kosher food tax. This
jumped to 475 in 1966 and 800 by 1975. Jewish promoters of kosher labeling
say there now has been a "kosher food explosion" today with over 16,000
products now paying rabbinical organizations for their "stamp of kosher approval."   Kosher products retail sales today amount to $3=
0 billion a year according to 
"The Chicago Jewish Sentinel" of July 7, 1988.

     Orthodox Jewish organizations have copyrighted certain symbols which
only they can use. The giant in the business is "The Union of Orthodox Jewish
Congregations" which issues the "U" imprint. They service some 1,200 
companies or about 80% of the business. They employ nearly 600 rabbis
as part-time "checkers." This is twice as many as ten years ago. The next 
largest is Rabbi Bernard Levy's "Committee For The Furtherance of Torah 
Observance" which uses the "K" symbol.  

     Canadian Kosher products are stamped with the letters "COR" which
stands for "Council of Orthodox Rabbis". This is a front group for the powerful
Canadian Jewish Congress which actually receives all the money from this tax.
The Jews in Canada are so united they do not allow any competition which is 
not the case in the U.S. Here a number of Orthodox rabbis have split away from
the major groups to go into the kosher racket for themselves. (Why split easy 
money with the higher ups?) Note: This is not Just a problem in the United
States and Canada. All nations with an Orthodox Jewish population are being
Extorted this way. Any were you have agents of the World Jewish Congress,
you have this form of Racketeering. Do to NAFTA, Mexico is flooded with
this problem. 100 Million Mexicans, mostly Catholic, have to pay tribute to
Jews in this manner.

     Rabbi Jack Goldman was formerly with the Orthodox Jewish Congregation
but broke away and now runs the "Metropolitan Kashruth Council of Michigan ". 
He has several rabbis working for him and they issue an "MK" label. Some 
believe this stands for "Michigan Kosher." It is said that had he remained in the 
New York-New Jersey area his life would have been in danger. Note: The symbols
differ from country to country, to find out what symbols are use in your nation, check
advertisements in Jewish news papers and magazines.

     Minnesota has Rabbi Asher Zeilingold who immigrated there in 1953 from
England and today issues his own "K with a shield" to some ISO factories.

     This is strictly a religious tax which millions of Christians
unknowingly pay each time they buy a basket load of groceries! What would 
happen if a group of Christian ministers or priests got together and demanded that all 
companies pay them a similar tax? They could use a "C," symbol (for Christian), 
or a cross, (for Christ), threatening that those who refuse to print such a label
on their products would be boycotted by Christians.

     If that happened you would hear an enraged outcry from the ACLU,
American Jewish Committee, Jewish Anti-Defamation League, etc. They would
be filing suits to stop this "violation of  the Constitutional provisions providing for the separation of Church and State." But, be=
cause of the Jews' centuries old claim of 
being "a poor persecuted people" along with the Christian fear of being accused of
"anti-Semitism," there is a deafening silence on this problem.

The Great Kosher Scandal Will One Day Explode

The New York Times, a Jewish owned daily, in a rare article on this subject
back on May 18, 1975, reported that kosher symbols are deliberately printed
"unobtrusively on labels" so that they will go unnoticed by Christians. In
Jewish publications large ads are run to instruct Jews to buy only kosher
marked items. In other words, the Jews are boycotting all products which do
not pay the kosher tax! The biggest secret of all is the exact ANNUAL amount
these companies pay to Orthodox rabbis. This same "Times" article stated:
"Neither kosher group will disclose what gross revenues  are, nor, are
corporations anxious to make their own payments public."

     How often do we hear our congressmen demand that there be "truth in
advertising" and that the "consumer must be protected?"

     "The Times" writer, Leonard Sloane, quizzed Rabbi Bernard Levy about
this and only received an evasive reply. Levy stated that the average cost to a concern
for kosher inspections runs from $1,000 for a "mom and pop" operation to $40,000 per
plant for the larger corporations.  But, he quickly added, that these charges can go much
higher because they are "all keyed to the frequency of inspection which
could be on a continuous, daily, weekly, monthly or quarterly basis."

     The rabbi decides how often your plant must be inspected.  Remember,
these are figures from 1975 - HOW MUCH HIGHER ARE THEY TODAY?

Jewish Editor Calls Kosher Labeling A"'Racket"

The Jewish Newsletter is published by William Zukerman.  In 1970 he came out
with a super-sensational article charging that Orthodox rabbis had turned the
kosher labeling business into a multi-million dollar racket.  He said that absolutely
nothing which does not contain meat or a meat by-product needs a kosher
label.  He quotes Mrs. Weiss-Rosmarin, "the greatest rabbinical authority,"
as testifying that no soft drink, Coca-Cola, nor any other drink needs
kosher approval.  

     Zuckerman charges that "unscrupulous or bogus rabbis" are in back of
this "racket" and when eventually exposed, "this will develop into a scandal
which will rock organized Jewry to its foundation:"  

     The B'nai B'rith Messenger in its April 2, 1965 edition warned that "a
nationally known rabbi who had promised to expose the kosher racket was
allegedly told to shut-up or else!" Zuckerman has stated that Jews who dare
to speak out against the Kosher Food Racket face physical danger.  Powerful
people do not want any of their own kind to rock the boat by exposing this
multi-million dollar fraud.

     American food products are already checked by local and federal
governmental agencies for purity and edibility. Jewish kosher certification in no way
whatsoever makes them any more sanitary or wholesome.  Orthodox Jewish
organizations send rabbis to all the food companies in America.  They tell
them that Jews will refuse to buy their products if they are not marked with
the "U" or "K" kosher symbol. The truth is that only Orthodox Jews, (less
than 1.2 million), follow kosher dietary laws. The rabbis broadly hint that
any refusal to pay for these "kosher inspections" would indicate that they
are "unfriendly or insensitive" to Jewry. They a labeled 
anti-Semites and all hell breaks loose THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF
A VEILED THREAT OF PURE BLACKMAIL AND IS  ILLEGAL! 
If someone with  an Italian last name did this, they would be in prison by now.


From Dailey@Gramercy.ios.com Wed Oct  2 12:20:11 PDT 1996
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 Someone made the statement that Lenin was a Russian, not a Jew. This is 
a non-sequitur. You can be a Russian Citizen and a Jew.

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Jews are to Communism what Germans are to Nazism, Italians to Facism,
Japanese ,French,Dutch,English,Spanish and the Portuges are to Imperialism.
It is not bigotry to point out this list when the Jews are exluded and it's
not bigotry 
when Jews are added.


"...the main purveyors of funds for the revolution,
however, were neither the crackpot  Russian millionaires nor the
armed bandits of Lenin. The 'real' money primarily came from
certain British and American circles which for a long time past
had lent their support to the  Russian revolutionary cause...The
important part played by the wealthy American Jewish Banker,
Jacob Schiff, in the events in Russia...is no longer a secret."
(Red Symphony, p. 252)

The above was confirmed by the New York Journal
American of February 3, 1949:  "Today it is estimated by Jacob's
grandson, John Schiff, that the old man sank about $20million
for the final triumph of Bolshevism in Russia."

"The founding prophet of the leftist faith, Karl Marx,
was born in 1818, the son of a  Jewish father who changed his
name from Herschel to Heinrich and converted to Christianity to
advance his career. The young Marx grew into a man consumed by
hatred for Christianity.
     Internationalizing the worst antichrist stereotypes, he
incorporated them into his early  revolutionary vision,
identifying Jews as symbols of the system of private property
and bourgeois  democracy he wanted to further. 'The god of the
Jews had been secularized and has become the  god of this
world,' Marx wrote. 'Money is the jealous god of the Jews,
beside which no other  god may stand.' Once the Revolution
succeeds in 'destroying the empirical essence of  Christianity,
he promised, 'the Jew will become the rulers of the world. This
early Marxist  formulation is the transparent seed of the mature
vision, causing Paul Johnson to characterize  Marxism as 'the
antichristian of the intellectuals.'
     The international Communist creed that Marx invented is a
creed of hate. The solution that  Marx proposed to the Christian
'problem' was to eliminate the system that 'creates' the
Christian. The Jews, he said, 'are only symptoms of a more
extensive evil that must eradicate  capitalism. The Jews are
only symbols of a more pervasive enemy that must be destroyed;
capitalists.'
     In the politics of the left, racist hatred is directed not
only against Christian capitalists but  against all capitalists;
not only against capitalists, but anyone who is not poor, and
who is White;  and ultimately against Western Civilization
itself. The Marxist revolution is antichrist elevated  to a
global principle." (David Horowitz, Human Events).

"The Bolshevist officials of Russia are Jews. The
Russian Revolution with all its  ghastly horrors was a Jewish
movement." (The Jewish Chronicle, Sept. 22, 1922)

"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed
in the trail of Trotsky (Bronstein)  these men having come over
>from  the lower east side of New York. Some of them when they
learned that I was the American Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up
to me and seemed very much  pleased that there was somebody who
could speak English, and their broken English showed that  they
had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these men
called on me and were  impressed with the strange Yiddish
element in this thing right from the beginning, and it soon
became evident that more than half the agitators in the socalled
Bolshevik movement were  Jews...I have a firm conviction that
this thing is Yiddish, and that one of its bases is found in
the east side of New York...The latest startling information,
given me by someone with good  authority, startling information,
is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern community of
Petrograd  that is what they call the section of the Soviet
regime under the Presidency of the  man known as Apfelbaum
(Zinovieff)  out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real
Russians, with the exception of one man, a Negro from America
who calls himself Professor  Gordon.
     I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the
great revolution of the winter of  1917, there were scores of
Jews standing on the benches and soap boxes, talking until their
mouths frothed, and I often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what
are we coming to anyway. This  all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that
time we had see very few Jews, because there was, as you  know,
a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd, but after the
revolution they swarmed in  there and most of the agitators were
Jews.
     I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into
power all over Petrograd, we at  once had a predominance of
Yiddish proclamations, big posters and everything in Yiddish. It
became very evident that now that was to be one of the great
languages of Russia; and the real  Russians did not take kindly
to it." (Dr. George A. Simons, a former superintendent of the
Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda Hearing
Before the SubCommittee of the  Committee on the Judiciary,
United States Senate, 65th Congress)

"When one lives in contact with the functionaries who
are serving the Bolshevik  Government, one feature strikes the
attention, which, is almost all of them are Jews. I am not  at
all anti-Semitic; but I must state what strikes the eye:
everywhere in Petrograd, Moscow, in  provincial districts, in
commissariats, in district offices, in Smolny, in the Soviets, I
have met  nothing but Jews and again Jews...The more one studies
the revolution the more one is  convinced that Bolshevism is a
Jewish movement which can be explained by the special
conditions in which the Jewish people were placed in Russia."
(L'Illustration, September 14,  1918)"

"The Soviet movement was a Jewish, and not a Russian
conception. It was forced on  Russia from without, when, in
1917, German and German-American-Jew interests sent Lenin  and
his associates into Russia, furnished with the wherewithal to
bring about the defection of the  Russian armies...The Movement
has never been controlled by Russians.

   (a) Of the 224 revolutionaries who, in 1917, were despatched
to Russia with Lenin to foment  the Bolshevik Revolution, 170
were Jews.

   (b) According to the Times of 29th March, 1919, 'of the 20 or
30 commissaries or leaders  who provide the central machinery of
the Bolshevist movement, not less than 75 percent, are
Jews...among minor officials the number is legion.'

"There was no opposition organized against Bela Kun.
Like Lenin he surrounded  himself with commissaries having
absolute authority. of the 32 principle commissaries 25 were
Jews, a proportion nearly similar to that in Russia. The most
important of them formed a  Directory of five: Bela Kun alias
Kohn, Bela Vaga (Weiss), Joseph Pogany (Schwartz),  Sigismond
Kunfi (Kunstatter), and another. Other chiefs were Alpari and
Szamuelly who directed  the Red Terror, as well as the
executions and tortures of the bourgeoisie." (A report on
revolutionary activities published by a committee of the
Legislature of New York, presided over  by Senator Lusk; The
Secret Powers Behind Revolution, by Vicomte Leon De Poncins, pp.
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This list is by no means comprehensive. To catalog all of the Jewish communists
involved in crimes would require hundreds of pages.
 
V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander of the
Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet Secret Police.
Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim Wallach (Litvinov):
Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director, Soviet KGB, later supreme
dictator of the Soviet Union.
 
Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
massacre of the Czars family--women and children--in the town named after
Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of the
murderer).
 
Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death squad
which carried out Sverdlovs order for the murder of the Czars family,
including the bayoneting to death of the Czars daughters. The Ipatyev house,
where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood intact until 1977, when
the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris Yeltsin, ordered it
demolished lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish sentiment.
 "...don't kill the farmer, he's too valuable to us."
(Jewish Motto).

Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich: chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered the deaths
of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments and churches,
including the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy
commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa
Kaganovich: Stalins mistress; sister of Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of
the Central Committee and wife of Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga
Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of
Kamenev.
 
Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer extraordinaire.
(Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize, wrote a hymn of praise
to Yagoda)."We have exterminated the property owners in Russia.
We are going to do the same  thing in Europe and America." (The
Jew, December 1925, Zinobit)

Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system..
 
Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration. Boris
Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of Matvei.
K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
 
Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of  the White
Sea--Baltic Canal.
 
M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas: commanders,
Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret Police.
 
Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army; officer,
Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the Spanish Civil
War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and peasants in Spain.
 
Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee. Dimitri
Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov (Yankel) Kreiser: general, Soviet Red
Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
 
David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union. Grigori
Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general, Soviet Red
Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni Raskin:
deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of Brest-Litovsk,
Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were Jewish (cf.Canadian
Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
 
Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these were
Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General Pavel
Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders including
Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife insurance policy
extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev and Leonoid Brezhnev.
 
Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The kulaks
were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisensteins Bezhin Meadow).
 
KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized from
murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier Julius
Rosenwald.
 
Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda and disseminator of anti-German
hate material dating from the 1930s. Ehrenburg instigated the Soviet Red Army
rape and murder of German civilians. Referring to German women, Ehrenburg
gloated to the advancing Red Army troops, >that blonde hag is in for a bad
time.
 
In a leaflet addressed to Soviet troops, Ehrenburg wrote: ...the Germans are
not human beings...nothing gives us so much joy as German corpses.(Anatol
Goldberg, Ilya Ehrenburg, p. 197). Goldberg concedes that Ehrenburg, ...had
always disliked the Germans...now that there was a war on he turned his old
prejudice into an asset.(Ibid., p. 193).
 
Another publication distributed to the Red Army, this time as the soldiers
approached Danzig, was described by a historian: Millions of leaflets were
air-dropped on the troops with a message composed by the propagandist  Ilya
Ehrenburg and signed by Stalin: Soldiers of the Red Army! Kill the Germans!
Kill all Germans! Kill! Kill! Kill! (Christopher Duffy, _Red Storm on the
Reich).
 
The Soviet leadership acknowledged that Ehrenburg sought the extermination of
the entire German people (cf. Pravda, April 14, 1945. [Pravda was also
published in a Yiddish edition, Einikeyt).

Ehrenburg won the Order of Lenin and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to
the Israeli Yad Vashem HolocaustMuseum.
 
Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film propagandists:
Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily Grossman, Yevgeny Gabrilovich,
Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies written by her continue to be
broadcast on American telelvision).
 
Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee (JAC): new form of the Bolshevik YEVKOM, Stalins
recruiting conduit for funding money, supplies and political influence for
Soviet Russia from world Jewry as well as the dissemination of gas chamber
atrocity propaganda (cf. The Black Book).
 
Nikolai Bukharin: Lenins chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl Radek:
member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar. A.A. Yoffe:
commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich Levin: physician,
poisoner of Stalins enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev): member of the Central
Committee.
 
Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer: commissar,
Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet terrorist-partisan. Mark
Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
 
Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later Stalins
chief terrorist in the Crimea. Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin.
Henrykas Zimanas: leader of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of
Christians.
 
Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist Peoples
Army. Titos top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian Christians. Pijade
later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist Parliament. At least
eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist Peoples Army were Jewish. The
Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms shipments to Jewish fighters in
Palestine in the 1940s.
 
In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish communists:
the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police; the Politboro commander
Jakub Berman and commissars Minc, Specht (Olszewski) and Spychalski. These men
murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death camps, hundreds of
thousands of Catholic Poles.
 
With this record it is interesting to note that the Polish occupant of the
papacy, John Paul II, consistently lent his prestige and his presence to
canonizations and commemorations of politically correct victims of the Nazis.
Nowhere did this Pope breath a word about the openly Jewish, Communist massacres
of Polish Catholics, Spanish Catholics, Croatian Catholics, Lithuanian
Catholics--he was too busy, intoning the Shoah, referring to the heirs of the
Pharisees as >our Elder Brothers in the Faith and giving official recognition
to an Israeli state which even many orthodox and Haredi rabbis regard as a
blasphemous and abominable entity.
 
Solomon Morel: commandant of a concentration camp for Germans in Poland. Morel
tortured and murdered thousands, sometimes with his bare hands (cf. The Wrath
of Solomon,
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Jewish Communist "Szamuelly traveled about Hungary in his special
train; an eye witness gives the  following description: 'This
train of death rumbled through the Hungarian night, and where it
stopped, men hung from trees, and blood flowed in the streets.
A long the railway line one often  found naked and mutilated
corpses. Szamuelly passed sentence of death in the train and
those  forced to enter it never related what they had seen.
Szamuelly lived in it constantly, thirty  Chinese terrorists
watched over his safety; special executioners accompanied him.
The train was  composed of two saloon cars, two first class cars
reserved for the terrorists and two third class  cars reserved
for the(Christian) victims. In the later the executions took place. the
floors were stained with  blood. the corpses were thrown from
the windows while Szamuelly sat at his dainty little writing
table, in the saloon car upholstered in pink silk and ornamented
with mirrors. A single gesture  of his hand dealt out life or
death.'" (C. De Tormay, Le livre proscrit, p. 204. Paris, 1919,
The  Secret Powers Behind Revolution, by Vicomte Leon De
Poncins, p. 122)

"In our decrees, it is definitely proclaimed that
religion is a question for the private  individual; but whilst
opportunists tended to see in these words the meaning that the
state would  adopt the policy of folded arms, the Marxian
revolutionary recognizes the duty of the state to  lead a most
resolute struggle against religion by means of ideological
influences on the  proletarian masses." (The Secret Powers
Behind Revolution, by Vicomte Leon De Poncins, p.  144)

"One can say without exaggeration that the great
Russian social revolution has been  made by the hand of the
Jews. Would the somber, oppressed masses of Russian workmen and
peasants have been capable by themselves of throwing off the
yoke of the bourgeoisie. No, it was especially the Jews who have
led the Russian proletariat to the Dawn of the International and
who have not only guided but still guide today the cause of the
Soviets which they have  preserved in their hands. We can sleep
in peace so long as the commander in chief of the Red  Army of
Comrade Trotsky. It is true that there are now Jews in the Red
Army serving as private  soldiers, but the committees and Soviet
organizations are Jewish. Jews bravely led to victory the
masses of the Russian proletariat. It is not without reason that
in the elections for all the Soviet  institutions Jews are in a
victorious and crushing majority...
     THE JEWISH SYMBOL WHICH FOR CENTURIES 
HAS STRUGGLED AGAINST CAPITALISM (CHRISTIAN)
HAS BECOME THAT ALSO OF THE RUSSIAN PROLETARIAT.
ONE MAY SEE IT IN THE ADOPTION OF THE RED
FIVE POINTED  STAR WHICH HAS BEEN FOR LONG, AS 
ONE KNOWS, THE SYMBOL OF ZIONISM  AND JUDAISM. 
Behind this emblem marches victory, the death of parasites and 
of the  bourgeoisie..." (M.Cohen, in the Communist of Kharkoff, 
April 1919; The Secret Powers  Behind Revolution, by Vicomte 
Leon De Poncins, pp.128129)

"The Gulag Archipelago, 'he informed an incredulous
world that the blood-maddened  Jewish terrorists had murdered
sixty-six million victims in Russia from 1918 to 1957!
Solzhenitsyn cited Cheka Order No. 10, issued on January 8,
1921: 'To intensify the repression  of the bourgeoisie.'"
(Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago)

"When one lives in contact with the functionaries who
are serving the Bolshevik  Government, one feature strikes the
attention, which, is almost all of them are Jews. I am not  at
all anti-Semitic; but I must state what strikes the eye:
everywhere in Petrograd, Moscow, in  the provincial districts;
the commissariats; the district offices; in Smolny, in the
Soviets, I have  met nothing but Jews and again Jews...The more
one studies the revolution the more one is  convinced that
Bolshevism is a Jewish movement which can be explained by the
special  conditions in which the Jewish people were placed in
Russia."

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of
Jewish brains, of Jewish  dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning,
whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was
performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish
brains, and because of Jewish  dissatisfaction and by Jewish
planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an physical
forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920)

"Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could
those halfconverted believers dream  to vanquish the 'Truthful'
and the 'Faithful of their own creed, those holy crusaders, who
had  gathered around the Red standard of the prophet Karl Marx,
and who fought under the daring  guidance of those experienced
officers of all latter-day revolutions  the Jews?" (Dr. Oscar
Levy, Preface to the World Significance of the Russian
Revolution by George PittRivers, 1920)

"Marxism, on which Bolshevism is founded, really did
not express the political side  of the Russian character and the
Bolsheviks were not sincere Socialists or Communists, but Jews,
working for the ulterior motives of Judaism. Lev Cherny divided
these Jews into three main  classes, firstly, financial Jews,
who dabbled in muddy international waters; secondly, Zionists,
whose aims are, of course, well known; and, thirdly, the
Bolsheviks, including the Jewish Bund.  The creed of these
Bolsheviks, according to the lecturer, is, briefly, that the
proletariat of all  countries are nothing but gelatinous masses,
which, if the Intellegentia were destroyed in each  country,
would leave these masses at the mercy of the Jews." (The Cause
of World Unrest  (1920), Gerard Shelley, pp. 136-137; The Rulers
of Russia, Denis Fahey, p. 37-38).
   This mind set is expressed in the Jewish Babylonian Talmud:
Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human 
("Only you are designated men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head,
"Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are designated 
animals ("she-asses").Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human Yebamoth 98a.
All Gentile children are animals. Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a 
state of niddah (filth) from birth. Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer 
sex with cows. Abodah Zarah 67b . "The vessels of Gentiles, do they not impart a worsened flavor to the food cooked in them?" Jews are Divine Sanhedrin 58b.
 If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is
 the same as hitting God.

"During the winter of 1920 the Union of Socialist
Soviet Republics comprised 52  governments with 52 Extraordinary
Commissions (Cheka), 52 special sections and 52  revolutionary
tribunals, Moreover numberless 'EsteChekas,' Chekas for
transport systems,  Chekas for railways, tribunals for troops
for internal security, flying tribunals sent for mass
executions on the spot. To this list of torture chambers the
special sections must be added, 16  army and divisional
tribunals. In all a thousand chambers of torture must be
reckoned, and if we  take into consideration that there existed
at this time cantonal Chekas, we must add even more.
     Since then the number of Soviet Governments has grown:
Siberia, the Crimea, the Far East,  have been conquered. The
number of Chekas has grown in geometrical proportion.
     According to direct data (in 1920, when the Terror had not
diminished and information on  the subject had not been reduced)
it was possible to arrive at a daily average figure for each
tribunal: the curve of executions rises from one to fifty (the
latter figure in the big centers) and  up to one hundred in
regions recently conquered by the Red Army. The crises of Terror
were  periodical, then they ceased, so that it is possible to
establish the (modes) figure of five victims  a day which
multiplied by the number of one thousand tribunals give five
thousand, and about  a million and a half per annum!" (S.P.
Melgounov, p. 104; The Secret Powers Behind  Revolution, by
Vicomte Leon De Poncins, p. 151)
Genocide Advocated by Talmud Minor Tractates. Soferim 
15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim 
harog ("Even the best of the Gentiles should all be killed").

"The Red Terror became so widespread that it is
impossible to give here all the details  of the principal means
employed by the [Jewish] Cheka(s) to master resistance; one of
the mostimportant is that of hostages, taken among all social
classes. These are held responsible for any  antiBolshevist
movements (revolts, the White Army, strikes, refusal of a
village to give its  harvest etc.) and are immediately executed.
Thus, for the assassination of the Jew Ouritzky,  member of the
Extraordinary Commission of Petrograd, several thousands of them
were put to  death, and many of these unfortunate men and women
suffered before death various tortures  inflicted by coldblooded
cruelty in the prisons of the Cheka.
     This I have in front of me photographs taken at Kharkoff,
in the presence of the Allied  Missions, immediately after the
Reds had abandoned the town; they consist of a series of ghastly
 reproductions such as: Bodies of three workmen taken as
hostages from a factory which went on  strike. One had his eyes
burnt, his lips and nose cut off; the other two had their hands
cut off.
     The bodies of hostages, S. Afaniasouk and P. Prokpovitch,
small landed proprietors, who  were scalped by their
executioners; S. Afaniasouk shows numerous burns caused by a
white hot  sword blade. The body of M. Bobroff, a former
officer, who had his tongue and one hand cut  off and the skin
torn off from his left leg.
     Human skin torn from the hands of several victims by means
of a metallic comb. This  sinister find was the result of a
careful inspection of the cellar of the Extraordinary Commission
 of Kharkoff. The retired general Pontiafa, a hostage who had
the skin of his right hand torn off  and the genital parts
mutilated.
     Mutilated bodies of women hostages: S. Ivanovna, owner of a
drapery business, Mme. A.L.  Carolshaja, wife of a colonel, Mmo.
Khlopova, a property owner. They had their breasts slit and
emptied and the genital parts burnt and having trace of coal.
     Bodies of four peasant hostages, Bondarenko, Pookhikle,
Sevenetry, and Sidorfehouk, with  atrociously mutilated faces,
the genital parts having been operated upon by Chinese torturers
in  a manner unknown to European doctors in whose opinion the
agony caused to the victims must  have been dreadful.
     It is impossible to enumerate all the forms of savagery
which the Red Terror took. A volume  would not contain them. The
Cheka of Kharkoff, for example, in which Saenko operated, had
the specialty of scalping victims and taking off the skin of
their hands as one takes off a  glove...At Voronege the victims
were shut up naked in a barrel studded with nails which was
then rolled about. Their foreheads were branded with a red hot
iron FIVE POINTED STAR. At  Tsaritsin and at Kamishin their
bones were sawed...At Keif the victim was shut up in a chest
containing decomposing corpses; after firing shots above his
head his torturers told him that he  would be buried alive. The
chest was buried and opened again half an hour later when the
interrogation of the victim was proceeded with. The scene was
repeated several times over. It  is not surprising that many
victims went mad." (S.P. Melgounov, p. 164166; The Secret Powers
 Behind Revolution, by Vicomte Leon De Poncins, p. 151153)
Talmud:  "...an Israelite is followed to do injury to a Goy, because 
where it  is written, Thou shalt not do injury to thy neighbor, it is not
said, Thou shalt not do injury to a Goy". - Miszna, Sanedryn, 57.

"With him (Bela Kun) twenty six commissaries composed
the new government [of  Hungary], out of the twenty six
commissaries eighteen were Jews. An unheard of proportion if
one considers that in Hungary there were altogether 1,500,000
Jews in a population of 22  million. Add to this that these
eighteen commissaries had in their hands the effective
directionof government. The eight Christian commissaries were
only confederates. In a few weeks, Bela  Kun and his friends had
overthrown in Hungary the ageold order and one saw rising on the
banks of the Danube a new Jerusalem issued from the brain of
Karl Marx and built by Jewish  hands on ancient thoughts.
     For hundreds of years through all misfortunes a Messianic
dream of an ideal city, where  there will be neither rich nor
poor, and where perfect justice and equality will reign, has
never  ceased to haunt the imagination of the Jews. In their
ghettos filled with the dust of ancient  dreams, the uncultured
Jews of Galicia persist in watching on moonlight nights in the
depths of  the sky for some sign precursor of the coming of the
Messiah. Trotsky, Bela Kun and the others  took up, in their
turn, this fabulous dream. But, tired of seeking in heaven this
kingdom of God  which never comes, they have caused it to
descend upon earth (sic)." (J. and J. Tharaud, Quand  Israel est
roi, p. 220. Pion Nourrit, Paris, 1921, The Secret Powers Behind
Revolution, by  Vicomte Leon De Poncins, p. 123)

Something to keep in mind when reading Jewish responses to this post:
  "It is forbidden to disclose the secrets of the Law. He who would do 
it would be as guilty as if he destroyed the whole world".  - Jaktus
Chadasz, 171, 2.
  "If a Jew is called to explain any part of the rabbinical books, he ought
to give false explanations, that he might not by behaving differently,
become an accomplice in betraying these informations. Who will violate
this law shall be put to death." - Libbre David, 37.
  "Every Goy who studies Talmud and every Jew who helps him in it, 
ought to die." - Sanhedryn 59a. Aboda Zora 8-6. Szagiga 13.










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Beth Dailey  wrote:
>This list is by no means comprehensive. To catalog all of the Jewish communists
>involved in crimes would require hundreds of pages.
> 
>V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander of the
>Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet Secret Police.
>Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim Wallach (Litvinov):
>Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director, Soviet KGB, later supreme
>dictator of the Soviet Union.
> 
>Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>massacre of the Czars family--women and children--in the town named after
>Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of the
>murderer).
> 
>Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death squad
>which carried out Sverdlovs order for the murder of the Czars family,
>including the bayoneting to death of the Czars daughters. The Ipatyev house,
>where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood intact until 1977, when
>the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris Yeltsin, ordered it
>demolished lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish sentiment.
> "...don't kill the farmer, he's too valuable to us."
>(Jewish Motto).
>
>Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich: chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered the deaths
>of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments and churches,
>including the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy
>commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa
>Kaganovich: Stalins mistress; sister of Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of
>the Central Committee and wife of Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga
>Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of
>Kamenev.
> 
>Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer extraordinaire.
>(Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize, wrote a hymn of praise
>to Yagoda)."We have exterminated the property owners in Russia.
>We are going to do the same  thing in Europe and America." (The
>Jew, December 1925, Zinobit)
>
>Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system..
> 
>Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration. Boris
>Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of Matvei.
>K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
> 
>Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of  the White
>Sea--Baltic Canal.
> 
>M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas: commanders,
>Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret Police.
> 
>Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army; officer,
>Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the Spanish Civil
>War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and peasants in Spain.
> 
>Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee. Dimitri
>Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov (Yankel) Kreiser: general, Soviet Red
>Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
> 
>David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union. Grigori
>Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general, Soviet Red
>Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni Raskin:
>deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of Brest-Litovsk,
>Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were Jewish (cf.Canadian
>Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
> 
>Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these were
>Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General Pavel
>Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders including
>Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife insurance policy
>extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev and Leonoid Brezhnev.
> 
>Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The kulaks
>were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisensteins Bezhin Meadow).
> 
>KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized from
>murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier Julius
>Rosenwald.
> 
>Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda and disseminator of anti-German
>hate material dating from the 1930s. Ehrenburg instigated the Soviet Red Army
>rape and murder of German civilians. Referring to German women, Ehrenburg
>gloated to the advancing Red Army troops, >that blonde hag is in for a bad
>time.
> 
>In a leaflet addressed to Soviet troops, Ehrenburg wrote: ...the Germans are
>not human beings...nothing gives us so much joy as German corpses.(Anatol
>Goldberg, Ilya Ehrenburg, p. 197). Goldberg concedes that Ehrenburg, ...had
>always disliked the Germans...now that there was a war on he turned his old
>prejudice into an asset.(Ibid., p. 193).
> 
>Another publication distributed to the Red Army, this time as the soldiers
>approached Danzig, was described by a historian: Millions of leaflets were
>air-dropped on the troops with a message composed by the propagandist  Ilya
>Ehrenburg and signed by Stalin: Soldiers of the Red Army! Kill the Germans!
>Kill all Germans! Kill! Kill! Kill! (Christopher Duffy, _Red Storm on the
>Reich).
> 
>The Soviet leadership acknowledged that Ehrenburg sought the extermination of
>the entire German people (cf. Pravda, April 14, 1945. [Pravda was also
>published in a Yiddish edition, Einikeyt).
>
>Ehrenburg won the Order of Lenin and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to
>the Israeli Yad Vashem HolocaustMuseum.
> 
>Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film propagandists:
>Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily Grossman, Yevgeny Gabrilovich,
>Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies written by her continue to be
>broadcast on American telelvision).
> 
>Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee (JAC): new form of the Bolshevik YEVKOM, Stalins
>recruiting conduit for funding money, supplies and political influence for
>Soviet Russia from world Jewry as well as the dissemination of gas chamber
>atrocity propaganda (cf. The Black Book).
> 
>Nikolai Bukharin: Lenins chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl Radek:
>member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar. A.A. Yoffe:
>commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich Levin: physician,
>poisoner of Stalins enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev): member of the Central
>Committee.
> 
>Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer: commissar,
>Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet terrorist-partisan. Mark
>Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
> 
>Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later Stalins
>chief terrorist in the Crimea. Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin.
>Henrykas Zimanas: leader of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of
>Christians.
> 
>Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist Peoples
>Army. Titos top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian Christians. Pijade
>later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist Parliament. At least
>eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist Peoples Army were Jewish. The
>Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms shipments to Jewish fighters in
>Palestine in the 1940s.
> 
>In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish communists:
>the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police; the Politboro commander
>Jakub Berman and commissars Minc, Specht (Olszewski) and Spychalski. These men
>murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death camps, hundreds of
>thousands of Catholic Poles.
> 
>With this record it is interesting to note that the Polish occupant of the
>papacy, John Paul II, consistently lent his prestige and his presence to
>canonizations and commemorations of politically correct victims of the Nazis.
>Nowhere did this Pope breath a word about the openly Jewish, Communist massacres
>of Polish Catholics, Spanish Catholics, Croatian Catholics, Lithuanian
>Catholics--he was too busy, intoning the Shoah, referring to the heirs of the
>Pharisees as >our Elder Brothers in the Faith and giving official recognition
>to an Israeli state which even many orthodox and Haredi rabbis regard as a
>blasphemous and abominable entity.
> 
>Solomon Morel: commandant of a concentration camp for Germans in Poland. Morel
>tortured and murdered thousands, sometimes with his bare hands (cf. The Wrath
>of Solomon,Eye). Morel is comfortably esconsed in Tel Aviv. No war crime-trial worries
>need trouble him.
> 
>Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and Stalin,
>son of Julius.
> 
>Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic bomb.
>Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth Werner: colonel,
>Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and Ethel Rosenberg: stole
>American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted
>the Rosenbergs.  Markus Wolf: chief of German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
> 
>Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>Dubinsky:Stalins ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment Workers
>Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist propagandist.
>Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor Rothschild: top
>British espionage agent for Stalin.
> 
>National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form
>of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism...under USSR
>law active anti-Semites are liable to the death penalty.(Stalin, Collected
>Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>"We intend to remake the Gentiles (in America) what the
>Communists are doing in Russia."  (Rabbi Lewish Brown in How Odd
>of God, New York, 1924)
>
>"All the cement floor of the great garage (the
>execution hall of the departmental  {Jewish} Cheka of Kief) was
>flooded with blood. This blood was no longer flowing, it formed
>a layer of several inches: it was a horrible mixture of blood,
>brains, of pieces of skull, of tufts  of hair and other human
>remains. All the walls riddled by thousands of bullets were
>bespattered  with blood; pieces of brains and of scalps were
>sticking to them.
>     A gutter twentyfive centimeters wide by twentyfive
>centimeters deep and about ten meters  long ran from the center
>of the garage towards a subterranean drain. This gutter along,
>its whole  length was full to the top of blood...Usually, as
>soon as the massacre had taken place the bodies  were conveyed
>out of the town in motor lorries and buried beside the grave
>about which we have  spoken; we found in a corner of the garden
>another grave which was older and contained about  eighty
>bodies. Here we discovered on the bodies traces of cruelty and
>mutilations the most varied  and unimaginable. Some bodies were
>disemboweled, others had limbs chopped off, some were  literally
>hacked to pieces. Some had their eyes put out and the head,
>face, neck and trunk  covered with deep wounds. Further on we
>found a corpse with a wedge driven into the chest.  Some had no
>tongues. In a corner of the grave we discovered a certain
>quantity of arms and  legs..." (Rohrberg, Commission of Enquiry,
>August 1919; S.P. Melgounov, La terreur rouge  en Russie. Payot,
>1927, p. 161; The Secret Powers Behind Revolution, by Vicomte
>Leon De  Poncins, pp. 149150)
>
>"The Jewish people as a whole will be its own
>Messiah. It will attain world dominion  by the dissolution of
>other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of
>monarchy, and  by the establishment of a world republic in which
>the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship.
>In this new world order the Children of  (psydo)Israel will furnish all
>the leaders without  encountering opposition. The Governments of
>the different peoples forming the world republic will fall
>without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be
>possible for the Jewish  rulers to abolish private property, and
>everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus  will
>the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that
>when the Messianic time is  come the Jews will have all the
>property of the whole world in their hands." (Baruch Levy,
>Letter to Karl Marx, La Revue de Paris, p. 54, June 1, 1928)
>
> "The Christians are always singing about the blood.
>Let us give them enough of it! Let  us cut their throats and
>drag them over the altar! And let them drown in their own blood!
>I  dream of the day when the last priest is strangled on the
>guts of the last preacher." (Jewish  Chairman of the American
>Communist Party, Gus Hall).
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>




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"
Jewish Hero and Communist Llya Ehrnbug:

"Kill the Germans, wherever you find them! Every German
is our moral enemy. Have  no mercy on women, children, or the
aged! Kill every German  wipe them out!" (Llya  Ehrenburg,
Glaser, p. 111). 

Llya Ehrenburg's order being carried out:
Published recently in "Der Freiwillige, June 1995, pages 10-11, under the
title "In Their Terror All Were Alike," written (or edited) by Hans Koppe.

". . . Since the same old stories of war crimes allegedly committed by the
Germans are being parroted over and over again in prayer-wheel fashion,
particularly by the younger generations who are too lazy (or deliberately
unwilling) to obtain a real grasp of the subject through the study of
documents from the archives of our former enemies' documents which are both
accessible and irrefutable - we wish to call to mind the following report
which first appeared 30 years ago in the Deutschland Journal of April 23,
on p. 7 of issue 17.

It is supplemented with the eyewitness report of an armoured infantryman
who recorded his impressions on March 7, 1995. P. 7, issue 17, April 23,
1965 (Deutschland-Journal). Report of the German-Brazilian citizen Leonora
Geier, nee Cavoa, born on October 22, 1925 in Sao Paulo, Brazil.   Before
the expulsion she lived in Hirschberg, Bahnstrasse 8.

Present at the writing of this report:

Bernhard Wassmann, born on May 10, 1901, Bautzen, Senftenberger Strasse 15;

Reiner Halhammer, born on February 3, 1910, Bautzen, Sterngasse 2;

Manfred Haer, born on April 9, 1929, Gorlitz, A.Bebel-Strasse 1;

KyrillWratilavo, born on March 3, 1918,
Bautzen, Karl-Marx-Strasse 25.

The witnesses present confirm that the aforementioned, Leonora Geier, made
this report without any coercion, threats or other outside influence,
motivated solely by the need to make the terrible events of the time of the
German Reich's collapse known to posterity since she has received
permission to emigrate to Brazil.

The report was drawn up on October 6, 1955 and discusses the events of
February 16, 17 and 18 1945, which are already partially known. At that
time the witness was employed as typist in Camp "Vilmsee" of the RAD), the
Women's Labour Service.  Being a Brazilian. she was considered by the
Russian Army to be an ally put to forced labour in the .service of the
National-Socialist state.

These prerogatives were attested to by a document which she presented here
and which bears the rubber stamp of the First White Russian Army. Since the
present report disregards existing moral standards and sexual taboos, it
must under no circumstances be made available to underage persons.

All events are recounted in a plain, straight-forward manner in order to
document historical accuracy. Nothing has been added, nothing was withheld.


Bernhard Wassmann and Manfred Haer were members of the Infantry Artillery
and Training Company I. G. 81 and were assigned to rescue operations in the
aforementioned camp when the city of Neustettin was occupied following the
temporary retreat of the First White Russian Army:

"On the morning of February 16 [19451 a Russian division occupied the Reich
Labour Service camp of Vilmsee in Neustettin. The Commissar, who spoke
German well, informed me that the camp was dissolved and that, as we were a
uniformed unit, we were to be transported immediately to a collecting camp.


Since 1, being a Brazilian, belonged to a nation on friendly terms with the
Allies, he entrusted me with the leadership of the transport which went to
Neustettin, into the yard of what used to be an iron foundry. We were some
500 girls from the Women's Reich Labour Service.

The Commissar was very polite to us and assigned us to the foreign workers'
barracks of the factory. But the allocated space was too small
for 11 of us, and so I went to speak to the Commissar about it.

He said that it was, after all, only a temporary arrangement, and offered
that I could come to the typists' office if it was too crowded for me,
which I gladly accepted. He immediately warned me to avoid any further
contact with the others, as those were members of an illegal army. My
protests that this was not true were cut off with the remark that if I ever
said anything like that ever again, I would be shot.

Suddenly I heard loud screams, and immediately two Red Army soldiers
brought in five girls. The commissar ordered them to undress. When they
refused out of modesty, he ordered me to do it to them, and for all of us
to follow him.

We crossed the yard to the former works kitchen, which had been completely
cleared out except for a few tables on the window side. It was terribly
cold, and the poor girls shivered. In the large, tiled room some Russians
were waiting for us, making remarks that must have been very obscene,
judging from how everything they said drew gales of laughter.

The Commissar told me to watch and learn how to turn the Master Race into
whimpering bits of misery. Now two Poles came in, dressed only in trousers,
and the girls cried out at their sight. They quickly grabbed the first of
the girls, and bent her backwards over the edge of the table until her
joints cracked. I was close to passing out as one of them took his knife
and, before the very eyes of the other girls, cut off her right breast. He
paused for a moment, then cut off the other side.

I have never-heard anyone scream as desperately as that girl. After this
operation he drove his knife into her abdomen several times, which again
was accompanied by the cheers of the Russians.

The next girl cried for mercy, but in vain, it even seemed that the
gruesome deed was done particularly slowly because she was especially
pretty. The other three had collapsed, they cried for their mothers and
begged for a quick death, but the same fate awaited them as well.

The last of them was still almost a child, with barely developed breasts.
They literally tore the flesh off her ribs until the white bones showed.

Another five girls were brought in. They had been carefully chosen this
time. All of them were well-developed and pretty. When they saw the bodies
of their predecessors they began to cry and scream. Weakly, they tried
desperately to defend themselves, but it did them no good as the Poles grew
ever more cruel.

They sliced the body of one of them open lengthwise and poured in a can of
machine oil, which they tried to light. A Russian shot one of the other
girls in the genitals before they cut off her breasts.

Loud howls of approval began when someone brought a saw from a tool chest.
This was used to tear off the breasts of the other girls, which soon caused
the floor to be awash in blood. The Russians were in a blood frenzy.

More girls were being brought in continually. I saw these grisly
proceedings as through a red haze. Over and over again I heard the terrible
screams when the breasts were tortured, and the loud groans at the
mutilation of the genitals.

When my knees buckled I was forced onto a chair. The Commissar always made
sure that I was watching, and when I had to throw up they even paused in
their tortures.

One girl had not undressed completely, she may also have been a little
older than the others, who were around seventeen years of age. They soaked
her bra with oil and set it on fire, and while she screamed, a thin iron
rod was shoved into her vagina until it came out her navel.

In the yard entire groups of girls were clubbed to death after the
prettiest of them had been selected for this torture. The air was filled
with the death cries of many hundreds of girls. But compared to what
happened in here, the beating to death outside was almost humane.

It was a horrible fact that not one of the girls mutilated here ever
fainted. Each of them suffered mutilation fully conscious. In their terror
all of them were alike in their pleading; it was always the same, the
begging for mercy, the high-pitched scream when the breasts were cut and
the groans when the genitals were mutilated.

The slaughter was interrupted several times to sweep the blood out of the
room and to clear away the bodies. That evening I succumbed to a severe
case of nervous fever. I do not remember anything from that point on until
I came to in a field hospital.

German troops had temporarily recaptured Neustettin, thus liberating us. As
I learned later, some 2,000 girls who had been in RAD, BDM and other camps
nearby were murdered in the first three days of Russian occupation."

(signed) Mrs. Leonora Geier, nee Cavoa

Copy of a handwritten report:

"I read the account of an eyewitness, Mrs. Leonora Geier. The bestiality
she experienced, and described in her account, is 100% true. and a typical
reflection of the fantasies and exhortations of the Soviet propagandist and
chief ideologist Ilya Ehrenburg.

This bestiality was a tactical measure intended to force the German
population to flee from the Eastern regions en masse, and was the rule
rather than the exception all the way over to the Oder River.

What I myself witnessed:

I was an armoured infantryman and had been trained on the most modern
German tank of those days, the Panther. Survivors from tank crews were
reassembled in the Reserves at Cottbus and kept ready for action.

In mid January, 1945, we were transferred to Frankfurt on the Oder River,
into a school building. One morning we were issued infantry weapons, guns,
bazookas and submachine guns.

The next day we were ordered to march to Neustettin. We traveled the first
60 miles or so by lorry, and after that  some 90 miles per day in forced
marches.

We were to take over some tanks that were kept ready for us in a forest
west of Neustettin. After a march lasting two days and nights, some ten
crews reached the forest just before dawn.

Two tanks were immediately readied for action and guarded the approach
roads while the other comrades, bone-weary, got a little sleep. By noon all
tanks, approximately 20, had been readied.

Our orders were to set up a front-line and to recapture villages and towns
>from  the Russians. My platoon of three tanks attacked a suburb that had a
train station with a forecourt. After we destroyed several anti-tank guns
the Russians surrendered.

More and more of them emerged from the houses. They were gathered into the
forecourt about 200 sat crowded closely together. Then something unexpected
happened.

Several German women ran towards the Russians and stabbed at them with
cutlery forks and knives. It was our responsibility to protect prisoners,
and we could not permit this. But it was not until I fired a submachine gun
into the air that the women drew back, and cursed us for presuming to
protect these animals. They urged us to go into the houses and take a look
at what (the Russians) had done there.

We did so, a few of us at a time, and we were totally devastated. We had
never seen anything like it utterly, unbelievably monstrous! Naked, dead
women lay in many of the rooms. Swastikas had been cut into their abdomens,
in some the intestines bulged out, breasts were cut up, faces beaten to a
pulp and swollen puffy.

Others had been tied to the furniture by their hands and feet, and
massacred. A broomstick protruded from the vagina of one, a besom from that
of another, etc. To me, a young man of 24 years at that time, it was a
devastating sight, simply incomprehensible!

Then the women told their story:

The mothers had had to witness how their teen and twelve-year-old daughters
were raped by some 20 men; the daughters in turn saw their mothers being
raped, even their grandmothers.

Women who tried to resist were brutally tortured to death. There was no
mercy. Many women were not local; they had come there from other towns,
fleeing from the Russians.

They also told us of the fate of the girls from the RAD whose barracks had
been captured by the Russians. When the butchery of the girls began, a few
of them had been able to crawl underneath the barracks and hide. At night
they escaped, and told us what they knew. There were three of them.

The women and girls saw parts of what Mrs. Leonora Geier described. The
women we liberated were in a state almost impossible to describe. They were
overfatigued and their faces had a confused, vacant look. Some were beyond
speaking, ran up and down and moaned the same sentences over and over
again.

Having seen the consequences of these bestial atrocities, we were terribly
agitated and determined to fight. We knew the war was past winning; but it
was our obligation and sacred duty to fight to the last bullet . . ."

"World War II was a Zionist plot to make way for the
foundation of the Jewish State  in Palestine." (Joseph Burg, an
anti-Zionist Jew).





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Durring the 1920's and 1930's Communism was thought to be the savor of man
and the solution to all his problems. It was fasionable to a Communist or a
Socialist.
Through out this times Jews and Jewish organizations bragged about it's
Jewish origin,causing many articals to be writen about it. Once it came out
that Communism was evil, out of no were, It was a Russain thing. If you
would like to do the research, all you have to do is look under Communism
and turn your attention to 
the time period of 1930's and go back via time.

"Lenin had taken part in Jewish student meetings in
Switzerland thirty-five years before."  (Dr. Chaim Weizmann, in
The London Jewish Chronicle, December 16, 1932)

"It was my first sight of him {Lenin} - a
smooth-headed, oval-faced, narrow-eyed,  typical Jew, with a
devilish sureness in every line of his powerful magnetic face.
Beside him was  a different type of Jew, the kind one might see
in any Soho shop, strong-nosed, sallow-faced,  long-moustached,
with a little tuft of beard wagging from his chin and a great
shock of wild hair,  Leiba Bronstein, afterwards Lev Trotsky."
(Herbert T. Fitch, Scotland Yark detective, in his  book
Traitors Within, p. 16)

"Lenin, or Oulianov by adoption, originally Zederbaum,
a Kalmuck Jew, married a  Jewess, and whose children speak
Yiddish." (Major-General, Count Cherep-Spiridovich, The  Secret
World Government, p. 36)

"Lenin, as a child, was left behind, there, by a
company of prisoners passing through,  and later his Jewish
convict father, Ilko Sroul Goldman, wrote inquiring his
whereabouts. Lenin  had already been picked up and adopted by
Qulianoff." (D. Petrovsky, Russia under the Jews,  p. 86)

"Lenin was born on April 10, 1870 in the vicinity of
Odessa, South of Russia, as a son  of Ilko Sroul Goldmann, a
German Jew, and Sofie Goldmann, a German Jewess. Lenin was
circumcised as Hiam Goldmann." (Common Sense, April 1, 1963)

"Many Jewish leaders of the early days of the
revolution have been done to death  during the Trotsky trials,
others are in prison. Trotsky-Bronstein is in exile. Jankel
Gamarnik,  the Jewish head of the political section of the army
administration, is dead. Another ferocious  Jew, Jagoda
(Guerchol Yakouda), who was for a long time head of the G.P.U.,
is now in prison.  The Jewish general, Jakir, is dead, and along
with him a number of others sacrificed by those  of his race.
And if we are to judge by the fragmentary and sometimes even
contradictory listswhich reach us from the Soviet Union,
Russians have taken the places of certain Jews on the  highest
rungs of the Soviet official ladder. Can we draw from this the
conclusion that Stalin's  government has shaken itself free of
Jewish control and has become a National Government?  Certainly
no opinion could be more erroneous or more dangerous than that...
     The Jews are yielding ground at some points and are
sacrificing certain lives, in the hope that  by clever
arrangements they may succeed in saving their threatened power.
They still have in  their hands the principal levers of control.
The day they will be obliged to give them up the  Marxist
edifice will collapse like a house of cards.
     To prove that, though Jewish domination is gravely
compromised, the Jews are still in  control, we have only to
take the list of the highly placed officials of the Red State.
The two  brothers-in-law of Stalin, Lazarus and Moses
Kaganovitch, are ministers of Transport and of  Industry,
respectively; Litvinoff (Wallach-Jeyer-Finkelstein) still
directs the foreign policy of the  Soviet Union...The post of
ambassador at Paris is entrusted to the Jew, Louritz, in place
of the  Russian, Potemkine, who has been recalled to Moscow. If
the ambassador of the U.S.S.R. in  London, the Jew Maiski, seems
to have fallen into disgrace, it is his fellow-Jew, Samuel
Kagan,  who represents U.S.S.R. on the London Non-Intervention
Committee. A Jew named Yureneff  (Gofmann) is the ambassador of
the U.S.S.R. at Berlin...Since the beginning of the discontent
in the Red Army the guard of the Kremlin and the responsibility
for Stalin's personal safety is  confided to the Jewish colonel,
Jacob Rapaport.
     All the internment camps, with their population of seven
million Russians, are in charge of  the Jew, Mendel Kermann,
aided by the Jews, Lazarus Kagan and Semen Firkin. All the
prisons  of the country, filled with working men and peasants,
are governed by the Jew, Kairn Apeter.  The News-Agency and the
whole Press of the country are controlled by the Jews...The
clever  system of double control, organized by the late Jankel
Gamarnik, head of the political staff of  the army, is still
functioning, so far as we can discover. I have before me the
list of these highly  placed Jews, more powerful than the
Bluchers and the Egonoffs, to whom the European Press  so often
alludes. Thus the Jew, Aronchtam, whose name is never mentioned,
is the Political  Commissar of the Army in the Far East: the Jew
Rabinovitch is the Political Commissar of the  Baltic Fleet, etc.
     All this goes to prove that Stalin's government, in spite
of all its attempts at camouflage, has  never been, and will
never be, a national government. Israel will always be the
controlling power  and driving force behind it. Those who do not
see that the Soviet Union is not Russian must be  blind."
(Contre-Revolution, Edited at Geneva by Leon de Poncins,
September, 1911; The Rulers  of Russia, Denis Fahey, pp. 40-42)

"...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself. In
the fact that so many Jews are  Bolsheviks. In the fact that the
ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with the finest ideals of
Judaism." (The Jewish Chronicle, April 4, 1918)

"...the main purveyors of funds for the revolution,
however, were neither the crackpot  Russian millionaires nor the
armed bandits of Lenin. The 'real' money primarily came from
certain British and American circles which for a long time past
had lent their support to the  Russian revolutionary cause...The
important part played by the wealthy American Jewish Banker,
Jacob Schiff, in the events in Russia...is no longer a secret."
(Red Symphony, p. 252)

The above was confirmed by the New York Journal
American of February 3, 1949:  "Today it is estimated by Jacob's
grandson, John Schiff, that the old man sank about $20million
for the final triumph of Bolshevism in Russia."

"The founding prophet of the leftist faith, Karl Marx,
was born in 1818, the son of a  Jewish father who changed his
name from Herschel to Heinrich and converted to Christianity to
advance his career. The young Marx grew into a man consumed by
hatred for Christianity.
     Internationalizing the worst antichrist stereotypes, he
incorporated them into his early  revolutionary vision,
identifying Jews as symbols of the system of private property
and bourgeois  democracy he wanted to further. 'The god of the
Jews had been secularized and has become the  god of this
world,' Marx wrote. 'Money is the jealous god of the Jews,
beside which no other  god may stand.' Once the Revolution
succeeds in 'destroying the empirical essence of  Christianity,
he promised, 'the Jew will become the rulers of the world. This
early Marxist  formulation is the transparent seed of the mature
vision, causing Paul Johnson to characterize  Marxism as 'the
antichristian of the intellectuals.'
     The international Communist creed that Marx invented is a
creed of hate. The solution that  Marx proposed to the Christian
'problem' was to eliminate the system that 'creates' the
Christian. The Jews, he said, 'are only symptoms of a more
extensive evil that must eradicate  capitalism. The Jews are
only symbols of a more pervasive enemy that must be destroyed;
capitalists.'
     In the politics of the left, racist hatred is directed not
only against Christian capitalists but  against all capitalists;
not only against capitalists, but anyone who is not poor, and
who is White;  and ultimately against Western Civilization
itself. The Marxist revolution is antichrist elevated  to a
global principle." (David Horowitz, Human Events).

"The Bolshevist officials of Russia are Jews. The
Russian Revolution with all its  ghastly horrors was a Jewish
movement." (The Jewish Chronicle, Sept. 22, 1922)






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Subject: Re: The Kosher Tax: Non Jews have to pay. Part II
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BRIEF HISTORY OF KOSHER LABELING

     Special kosher approval by rabbis, down through the centuries, has only
been applied to requiring the Jewish ritual slaughter of animals.  This
includes the killing of unstunned cattle by an approved Jewish "shocktim."
It requires their throat be cut from ear to ear. They slowly bleed to death
in a horrible manner  because the animals heart must pump out all its blood
before death.  Jews are not allowed to eat any meat with blood in it.
Jewish ritual slaughter of animals has been condemned by humane societies
the world over and has been  banned  in  numerous countries  in  the  past
for constituting "cruelty to animals."

     The idea of applying kosher regulations  to  non-meat products was
originated by the late Joseph Jacobs.  All of this first began in 1919 in
New york City when Jacobs sold an advertising  idea to a  few Jewish-owned
food companies if they would print a "K" for kosher on their food products
he would advertise them in Jewish publications and also on the Yiddish radio
station, WEVD.  None of the products were inspected by rabbis.  This began
as purely an advertising venture.  Thus the "Joseph Jacobs Organization,
Inc." was founded and today is run by his relatives.   This business
prospered but Jacobs was not a rabbi and saw the advantage of linking his
kosher approval scheme to the Jewish religion. Then in 1925 he formed a new
group with some rabbis and called it "The Committee For the Furtherance of
Torah Observance."  A few years later other Orthodox rabbis recognized its
money making potential and with the leadership of the far larger "Union of
Orthodox Congregations" they begin issuing their own "U" label. Today these
two 2 groups control over 90% of the kosher business.

COMPANIES REPLY TO OUR READERS' INQUIRIES 

     Our readers have sent us many letters they have received from some of
the nation's largest companies who have silently  submitted  to this kosher
blackmail.
In other words, they had rather make the "pay off" when threatened with a
Jewish boycott, than stand up for their own rights as well  as  protect
Christian consumers against this gigantic fraud! Why should we be forced to
pay ever higher food bills in part caused by this needless secret kosher tax?

     Proof that it is indeed secret can be found in the replies printed
below in which not one single company would answer the simple question, "How
much do you pay annually for the "kosher certification"?

     This information should be made public for the simple reason we
Christian consumers pay a far larger share of this tax than do the Jews!

     New  York columnist, Dorothy Kilgallen, just before her death wrote
that the U.S. Post Office changed the makeup of the glue on the back of the
postage stamps at the demand of Orthodox rabbis.   It was changed from a
pork-fat based glue to a vegetable derivative that had Kosher approval!  The
rabbis  had objected that "no Jew should be forced to lick pork!"

     Along this same line we find organized Jewry forcing the federal
prison system and the U.S. Armed Forces into buying kosher food for Jews who
are either in prison or in the military.  No politician has raised his voice
in protest 
against this interference by Jews with U.S. government programs!  This causes
unnecessary extra costs which the taxpayer ends up paying.

A TYPICAL LETTER COMPANIES USE TRYING TO EXPLAIN AWAY THE
SECRET KOSHER FOOD TAX:

GENERAL FOODS CORPORATION / 250 North Street, White Plains, N.Y. 
PUBLIC RELATIONS DEPARTMENT

Dear Mr. __________

This is in response to your recent letter inquiring about the letter "K" on
the labels of our Maxwell House coffee. 

As I believe you know, the "K" (for Kosher), is carried on the labels of
some of our products, including our coffees, as a service to consumers who
are of the Jewish faith. The letter certifies that nothing occurs in the
processing
of the products which would violate Jewish dietary laws.  The certification is 
made by one or more*highly respected rabbis* who actually visit our production
plants to observe our manufacturing processes. For this service, *they are paid 
a nominal fee* which is such a minute fraction of the over-all cost of
processing and
marketing our products that it has no effect on the selling price. The use
of the "K" is a common practice in the packaged food industry today, and we
view it as simply providing helpful information to a substantial number of
consumers.  As for the letter "U" that you mentioned, we have heard of it,
but are not
familiar with its background since we do not use it.  

Sincerely yours;

Robert O. Carboni   

HOW MUCH DO THEY PAY?!  

     Following are excerpts of replies to our readers' inquiries about the
kosher tax.  General Foods representative Robert O. Carboni wrote that
"highly respected rabbis visit the plant....they are paid a nominal fee..."
Mueller's Spaghetti, Mrs. Agnes Stile's, Director writes; "We pay a nominal
fee for periodic  inspection.''Delmonico Foods, Joseph P. Viviano, "The "U"
means we have passed the Rabbinical investigation." Hunt-Wesson Foods,
Inc.W. R. Kittredge, Manager Technical Services:  "We permit inspection
visits...there is a minor cost  associated with this."   Procter and Gamble
Co., W. S. Carter, Public Relations, "this is a way of helping observant
Jewish shoppers . . . without adding significantly to cost."   General Foods
Kitchens, Katherine C. Egan; "It is not the policy of this corporation to
reveal the cost."   Morton Salt Co., Ray W. McDonald, Advertising and
promotion manager, "We must have a designated Rabbi inspect our plant and
make certain that they meet the requirements for us to receive the symbol."
The Nestle Co., Helen J. Britt, Director Home Economics, "There is no
premium price exacted for a product so identified."  Lever Brothers Co.,
Therese  Bergstrom, Consumer Service Dept., "The cost of this certification
is minimal and infinitesimal."

     Club House Foods, of Canada, Mrs. D. Kitching head of Consumer
Services: "Kosher meat products require a much more involved certification
process
directly requiring the supervision by a rabbi who usually commands a premium
price for
this service."

BUT - How Much Do We Pay? 

     Above you have read the evasive answers that the largest food companies
in America have given our readers in answer  to  a  very  simple question. 
All we want to know is -How much money do you pay annually for kosher 
certification?"  Christian consumers have a right to know since actually it
is we
who pay most of the kosher tax!

Spider-Web Effect Of The Kosher Tax

     Reynolds Aluminum Foil is "kosher" with the "U" imprint, as are Glad
Sandwich Bags, Ivory Liquid Detergent, also Glass Plus for window cleaning and 
Comet Cleanser.  Why should any of these companies be forced to pay the "Kosher
Food Tax"?  You can't [even] eat these products! Check labels the next
time you go shopping, you will be shocked at just how many non-food items 
are Kosher. Remember that YOU have to pay their tax.

     Note the article by the Jewish Union on Reynolds Wrap [not featured
here].  It states that one food firm had a product with 21 ingredients from
12 other companies.  Each of them were also required to pay the kosher tax
before the original company could receive kosher certification!  Also, a
giant company with scores of products can't pay one fee for all its food
products.  It must pay a separate kosher tax for each product and each must
be inspected by the Rabbi on different visits.  This can run the total tax
up into the millions of dollars!  This is also a GRADUATED TAX that
increases each year.  

KOSHER FOOD SYMBOL VIOLATES "TRUTH IN ADVERTISING LAWS." 
This Dobie Pad ad appeared in "Women's Day Magazine" - note the "U" symbol
has been deliberately  painted out.    

This Dobie Pad ad appeared in Jewish publications nation-wide. - Note how
the "U" is emphasized with an arrow to draw attention.   

Most advertising agencies paint out Kosher symbols in ads.  This violates
the federal "Truth in Advertising Law!"   No daily paper or TV program has
ever explained to the American people how this Kosher food tax costs
consumers millions of dollars every year. In Jewish publications they have
arrows pointing at the symbol so that Jews will be on the lookout for their
product.  

TALMUD: The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book. Its authority takes precedence
over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud
itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the
observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old
Testament)."
   The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be
seen in the case of the Black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians have more
knowledge of the Old Testament than the Israelis.
   However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes Talmud, of
which they have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29,
1992, p.4: "The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further
than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form
the basis of modern traditions never came their way." Because they don't
traffic in Talmudic traditions, the Black Ethiopians are discriminated
against and have been forbidden to perform marriages, funerals and other
services in the Israeli state.
   Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most influential
rabbis of the 20th century, the "unchallenged leader" of Orthodox Judaism
and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish religious law).
Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining more than 2,000
rabbis, "an entire generation" of Jewish leadership.
   N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the rabbis
authority: "Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic
scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to
the study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva University's Elchanan
Theological Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the
Talmud...He held the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud...sitting
with his feet crossed in front of a table bearing an open volume of the
Talmud." (N.Y. Times, April 10, 1993, p. 38).
   Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchiks knowledge of the Bible as the
basis for being one of the top world authorities on Jewish law. The rabbis
credentials are predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. All other
studies are clearly secondary. Britains Jewish Chronicle of March 26, 1993
states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are "devoted to the Talmud
to the exclusion of everything else."





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BRIEF HISTORY OF KOSHER LABELING

     Special kosher approval by rabbis, down through the centuries, has only
been applied to requiring the Jewish ritual slaughter of animals.  This
includes the killing of unstunned cattle by an approved Jewish "shocktim."
It requires their throat be cut from ear to ear. They slowly bleed to death
in a horrible manner  because the animals heart must pump out all its blood
before death.  Jews are not allowed to eat any meat with blood in it.
Jewish ritual slaughter of animals has been condemned by humane societies
the world over and has been  banned  in  numerous countries  in  the  past
for constituting "cruelty to animals."

     The idea of applying kosher regulations  to  non-meat products was
originated by the late Joseph Jacobs.  All of this first began in 1919 in
New york City when Jacobs sold an advertising  idea to a  few Jewish-owned
food companies if they would print a "K" for kosher on their food products
he would advertise them in Jewish publications and also on the Yiddish radio
station, WEVD.  None of the products were inspected by rabbis.  This began
as purely an advertising venture.  Thus the "Joseph Jacobs Organization,
Inc." was founded and today is run by his relatives.   This business
prospered but Jacobs was not a rabbi and saw the advantage of linking his
kosher approval scheme to the Jewish religion. Then in 1925 he formed a new
group with some rabbis and called it "The Committee For the Furtherance of
Torah Observance."  A few years later other Orthodox rabbis recognized its
money making potential and with the leadership of the far larger "Union of
Orthodox Congregations" they begin issuing their own "U" label. Today these
two 2 groups control over 90% of the kosher business.

COMPANIES REPLY TO OUR READERS' INQUIRIES 

     Our readers have sent us many letters they have received from some of
the nation's largest companies who have silently  submitted  to this kosher
blackmail.
In other words, they had rather make the "pay off" when threatened with a
Jewish boycott, than stand up for their own rights as well  as  protect
Christian consumers against this gigantic fraud! Why should we be forced to
pay ever higher food bills in part caused by this needless secret kosher tax?

     Proof that it is indeed secret can be found in the replies printed
below in which not one single company would answer the simple question, "How
much do you pay annually for the "kosher certification"?

     This information should be made public for the simple reason we
Christian consumers pay a far larger share of this tax than do the Jews!

     New  York columnist, Dorothy Kilgallen, just before her death wrote
that the U.S. Post Office changed the makeup of the glue on the back of the
postage stamps at the demand of Orthodox rabbis.   It was changed from a
pork-fat based glue to a vegetable derivative that had Kosher approval!  The
rabbis  had objected that "no Jew should be forced to lick pork!"

     Along this same line we find organized Jewry forcing the federal
prison system and the U.S. Armed Forces into buying kosher food for Jews who
are either in prison or in the military.  No politician has raised his voice
in protest 
against this interference by Jews with U.S. government programs!  This causes
unnecessary extra costs which the taxpayer ends up paying.

A TYPICAL LETTER COMPANIES USE TRYING TO EXPLAIN AWAY THE
SECRET KOSHER FOOD TAX:

GENERAL FOODS CORPORATION / 250 North Street, White Plains, N.Y. 
PUBLIC RELATIONS DEPARTMENT

Dear Mr. __________

This is in response to your recent letter inquiring about the letter "K" on
the labels of our Maxwell House coffee. 

As I believe you know, the "K" (for Kosher), is carried on the labels of
some of our products, including our coffees, as a service to consumers who
are of the Jewish faith. The letter certifies that nothing occurs in the
processing
of the products which would violate Jewish dietary laws.  The certification is 
made by one or more*highly respected rabbis* who actually visit our production
plants to observe our manufacturing processes. For this service, *they are paid 
a nominal fee* which is such a minute fraction of the over-all cost of
processing and
marketing our products that it has no effect on the selling price. The use
of the "K" is a common practice in the packaged food industry today, and we
view it as simply providing helpful information to a substantial number of
consumers.  As for the letter "U" that you mentioned, we have heard of it,
but are not
familiar with its background since we do not use it.  

Sincerely yours;

Robert O. Carboni   

HOW MUCH DO THEY PAY?!  

     Following are excerpts of replies to our readers' inquiries about the
kosher tax.  General Foods representative Robert O. Carboni wrote that
"highly respected rabbis visit the plant....they are paid a nominal fee..."
Mueller's Spaghetti, Mrs. Agnes Stile's, Director writes; "We pay a nominal
fee for periodic  inspection.''Delmonico Foods, Joseph P. Viviano, "The "U"
means we have passed the Rabbinical investigation." Hunt-Wesson Foods,
Inc.W. R. Kittredge, Manager Technical Services:  "We permit inspection
visits...there is a minor cost  associated with this."   Procter and Gamble
Co., W. S. Carter, Public Relations, "this is a way of helping observant
Jewish shoppers . . . without adding significantly to cost."   General Foods
Kitchens, Katherine C. Egan; "It is not the policy of this corporation to
reveal the cost."   Morton Salt Co., Ray W. McDonald, Advertising and
promotion manager, "We must have a designated Rabbi inspect our plant and
make certain that they meet the requirements for us to receive the symbol."
The Nestle Co., Helen J. Britt, Director Home Economics, "There is no
premium price exacted for a product so identified."  Lever Brothers Co.,
Therese  Bergstrom, Consumer Service Dept., "The cost of this certification
is minimal and infinitesimal."

     Club House Foods, of Canada, Mrs. D. Kitching head of Consumer
Services: "Kosher meat products require a much more involved certification
process
directly requiring the supervision by a rabbi who usually commands a premium
price for
this service."

BUT - How Much Do We Pay? 

     Above you have read the evasive answers that the largest food companies
in America have given our readers in answer  to  a  very  simple question. 
All we want to know is -How much money do you pay annually for kosher 
certification?"  Christian consumers have a right to know since actually it
is we
who pay most of the kosher tax!

Spider-Web Effect Of The Kosher Tax

     Reynolds Aluminum Foil is "kosher" with the "U" imprint, as are Glad
Sandwich Bags, Ivory Liquid Detergent, also Glass Plus for window cleaning and 
Comet Cleanser.  Why should any of these companies be forced to pay the "Kosher
Food Tax"?  You can't [even] eat these products! Check labels the next
time you go shopping, you will be shocked at just how many non-food items 
are Kosher. Remember that YOU have to pay their tax.

     Note the article by the Jewish Union on Reynolds Wrap [not featured
here].  It states that one food firm had a product with 21 ingredients from
12 other companies.  Each of them were also required to pay the kosher tax
before the original company could receive kosher certification!  Also, a
giant company with scores of products can't pay one fee for all its food
products.  It must pay a separate kosher tax for each product and each must
be inspected by the Rabbi on different visits.  This can run the total tax
up into the millions of dollars!  This is also a GRADUATED TAX that
increases each year.  

KOSHER FOOD SYMBOL VIOLATES "TRUTH IN ADVERTISING LAWS." 
This Dobie Pad ad appeared in "Women's Day Magazine" - note the "U" symbol
has been deliberately  painted out.    

This Dobie Pad ad appeared in Jewish publications nation-wide. - Note how
the "U" is emphasized with an arrow to draw attention.   

Most advertising agencies paint out Kosher symbols in ads.  This violates
the federal "Truth in Advertising Law!"   No daily paper or TV program has
ever explained to the American people how this Kosher food tax costs
consumers millions of dollars every year. In Jewish publications they have
arrows pointing at the symbol so that Jews will be on the lookout for their
product.  

TALMUD: The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book. Its authority takes precedence
over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud
itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the
observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old
Testament)."
   The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be
seen in the case of the Black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians have more
knowledge of the Old Testament than the Israelis.
   However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes Talmud, of
which they have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29,
1992, p.4: "The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further
than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form
the basis of modern traditions never came their way." Because they don't
traffic in Talmudic traditions, the Black Ethiopians are discriminated
against and have been forbidden to perform marriages, funerals and other
services in the Israeli state.
   Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most influential
rabbis of the 20th century, the "unchallenged leader" of Orthodox Judaism
and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish religious law).
Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining more than 2,000
rabbis, "an entire generation" of Jewish leadership.
   N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the rabbis
authority: "Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic
scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to
the study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva University's Elchanan
Theological Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the
Talmud...He held the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud...sitting
with his feet crossed in front of a table bearing an open volume of the
Talmud." (N.Y. Times, April 10, 1993, p. 38).
   Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchiks knowledge of the Bible as the
basis for being one of the top world authorities on Jewish law. The rabbis
credentials are predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. All other
studies are clearly secondary. Britains Jewish Chronicle of March 26, 1993
states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are "devoted to the Talmud
to the exclusion of everything else."





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Beth Dailey  wrote:
>BRIEF HISTORY OF KOSHER LABELING
>
>     Special kosher approval by rabbis, down through the centuries, has only
>been applied to requiring the Jewish ritual slaughter of animals.  This
>includes the killing of unstunned cattle by an approved Jewish "shocktim."
>It requires their throat be cut from ear to ear. They slowly bleed to death
>in a horrible manner  because the animals heart must pump out all its blood
>before death.  Jews are not allowed to eat any meat with blood in it.
>Jewish ritual slaughter of animals has been condemned by humane societies
>the world over and has been  banned  in  numerous countries  in  the  past
>for constituting "cruelty to animals."
>
>     The idea of applying kosher regulations  to  non-meat products was
>originated by the late Joseph Jacobs.  All of this first began in 1919 in
>New york City when Jacobs sold an advertising  idea to a  few Jewish-owned
>food companies if they would print a "K" for kosher on their food products
>he would advertise them in Jewish publications and also on the Yiddish radio
>station, WEVD.  None of the products were inspected by rabbis.  This began
>as purely an advertising venture.  Thus the "Joseph Jacobs Organization,
>Inc." was founded and today is run by his relatives.   This business
>prospered but Jacobs was not a rabbi and saw the advantage of linking his
>kosher approval scheme to the Jewish religion. Then in 1925 he formed a new
>group with some rabbis and called it "The Committee For the Furtherance of
>Torah Observance."  A few years later other Orthodox rabbis recognized its
>money making potential and with the leadership of the far larger "Union of
>Orthodox Congregations" they begin issuing their own "U" label. Today these
>two 2 groups control over 90% of the kosher business.
>
>COMPANIES REPLY TO OUR READERS' INQUIRIES 
>
>     Our readers have sent us many letters they have received from some of
>the nation's largest companies who have silently  submitted  to this kosher
>blackmail.
>In other words, they had rather make the "pay off" when threatened with a
>Jewish boycott, than stand up for their own rights as well  as  protect
>Christian consumers against this gigantic fraud! Why should we be forced to
>pay ever higher food bills in part caused by this needless secret kosher tax?
>
>     Proof that it is indeed secret can be found in the replies printed
>below in which not one single company would answer the simple question, "How
>much do you pay annually for the "kosher certification"?
>
>     This information should be made public for the simple reason we
>Christian consumers pay a far larger share of this tax than do the Jews!
>
>     New  York columnist, Dorothy Kilgallen, just before her death wrote
>that the U.S. Post Office changed the makeup of the glue on the back of the
>postage stamps at the demand of Orthodox rabbis.   It was changed from a
>pork-fat based glue to a vegetable derivative that had Kosher approval!  The
>rabbis  had objected that "no Jew should be forced to lick pork!"
>
>     Along this same line we find organized Jewry forcing the federal
>prison system and the U.S. Armed Forces into buying kosher food for Jews who
>are either in prison or in the military.  No politician has raised his voice
>in protest 
>against this interference by Jews with U.S. government programs!  This causes
>unnecessary extra costs which the taxpayer ends up paying.
>
>A TYPICAL LETTER COMPANIES USE TRYING TO EXPLAIN AWAY THE
>SECRET KOSHER FOOD TAX:
>
>GENERAL FOODS CORPORATION / 250 North Street, White Plains, N.Y. 
>PUBLIC RELATIONS DEPARTMENT
>
>Dear Mr. __________
>
>This is in response to your recent letter inquiring about the letter "K" on
>the labels of our Maxwell House coffee. 
>
>As I believe you know, the "K" (for Kosher), is carried on the labels of
>some of our products, including our coffees, as a service to consumers who
>are of the Jewish faith. The letter certifies that nothing occurs in the
>processing
>of the products which would violate Jewish dietary laws.  The certification is 
>made by one or more*highly respected rabbis* who actually visit our production
>plants to observe our manufacturing processes. For this service, *they are paid 
>a nominal fee* which is such a minute fraction of the over-all cost of
>processing and
>marketing our products that it has no effect on the selling price. The use
>of the "K" is a common practice in the packaged food industry today, and we
>view it as simply providing helpful information to a substantial number of
>consumers.  As for the letter "U" that you mentioned, we have heard of it,
>but are not
>familiar with its background since we do not use it.  
>
>Sincerely yours;
>
>Robert O. Carboni   
>
>HOW MUCH DO THEY PAY?!  
>
>     Following are excerpts of replies to our readers' inquiries about the
>kosher tax.  General Foods representative Robert O. Carboni wrote that
>"highly respected rabbis visit the plant....they are paid a nominal fee..."
>Mueller's Spaghetti, Mrs. Agnes Stile's, Director writes; "We pay a nominal
>fee for periodic  inspection.''Delmonico Foods, Joseph P. Viviano, "The "U"
>means we have passed the Rabbinical investigation." Hunt-Wesson Foods,
>Inc.W. R. Kittredge, Manager Technical Services:  "We permit inspection
>visits...there is a minor cost  associated with this."   Procter and Gamble
>Co., W. S. Carter, Public Relations, "this is a way of helping observant
>Jewish shoppers . . . without adding significantly to cost."   General Foods
>Kitchens, Katherine C. Egan; "It is not the policy of this corporation to
>reveal the cost."   Morton Salt Co., Ray W. McDonald, Advertising and
>promotion manager, "We must have a designated Rabbi inspect our plant and
>make certain that they meet the requirements for us to receive the symbol."
>The Nestle Co., Helen J. Britt, Director Home Economics, "There is no
>premium price exacted for a product so identified."  Lever Brothers Co.,
>Therese  Bergstrom, Consumer Service Dept., "The cost of this certification
>is minimal and infinitesimal."
>
>     Club House Foods, of Canada, Mrs. D. Kitching head of Consumer
>Services: "Kosher meat products require a much more involved certification
>process
>directly requiring the supervision by a rabbi who usually commands a premium
>price for
>this service."
>
>BUT - How Much Do We Pay? 
>
>     Above you have read the evasive answers that the largest food companies
>in America have given our readers in answer  to  a  very  simple question. 
>All we want to know is -How much money do you pay annually for kosher 
>certification?"  Christian consumers have a right to know since actually it
>is we
>who pay most of the kosher tax!
>
>Spider-Web Effect Of The Kosher Tax
>
>     Reynolds Aluminum Foil is "kosher" with the "U" imprint, as are Glad
>Sandwich Bags, Ivory Liquid Detergent, also Glass Plus for window cleaning and 
>Comet Cleanser.  Why should any of these companies be forced to pay the "Kosher
>Food Tax"?  You can't [even] eat these products! Check labels the next
>time you go shopping, you will be shocked at just how many non-food items 
>are Kosher. Remember that YOU have to pay their tax.
>
>     Note the article by the Jewish Union on Reynolds Wrap [not featured
>here].  It states that one food firm had a product with 21 ingredients from
>12 other companies.  Each of them were also required to pay the kosher tax
>before the original company could receive kosher certification!  Also, a
>giant company with scores of products can't pay one fee for all its food
>products.  It must pay a separate kosher tax for each product and each must
>be inspected by the Rabbi on different visits.  This can run the total tax
>up into the millions of dollars!  This is also a GRADUATED TAX that
>increases each year.  
>
>KOSHER FOOD SYMBOL VIOLATES "TRUTH IN ADVERTISING LAWS." 
>This Dobie Pad ad appeared in "Women's Day Magazine" - note the "U" symbol
>has been deliberately  painted out.    
>
>This Dobie Pad ad appeared in Jewish publications nation-wide. - Note how
>the "U" is emphasized with an arrow to draw attention.   
>
>Most advertising agencies paint out Kosher symbols in ads.  This violates
>the federal "Truth in Advertising Law!"   No daily paper or TV program has
>ever explained to the American people how this Kosher food tax costs
>consumers millions of dollars every year. In Jewish publications they have
>arrows pointing at the symbol so that Jews will be on the lookout for their
>product.  
>
>TALMUD: The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book. Its authority takes precedence
>over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud
>itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the
>observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old
>Testament)."
>   The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be
>seen in the case of the Black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians have more
>knowledge of the Old Testament than the Israelis.
>   However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes Talmud, of
>which they have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29,
>1992, p.4: "The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further
>than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form
>the basis of modern traditions never came their way." Because they don't
>traffic in Talmudic traditions, the Black Ethiopians are discriminated
>against and have been forbidden to perform marriages, funerals and other
>services in the Israeli state.
>   Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most influential
>rabbis of the 20th century, the "unchallenged leader" of Orthodox Judaism
>and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish religious law).
>Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining more than 2,000
>rabbis, "an entire generation" of Jewish leadership.
>   N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the rabbis
>authority: "Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic
>scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to
>the study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva University's Elchanan
>Theological Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the
>Talmud...He held the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud...sitting
>with his feet crossed in front of a table bearing an open volume of the
>Talmud." (N.Y. Times, April 10, 1993, p. 38).
>   Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchiks knowledge of the Bible as the
>basis for being one of the top world authorities on Jewish law. The rabbis
>credentials are predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. All other
>studies are clearly secondary. Britains Jewish Chronicle of March 26, 1993
>states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are "devoted to the Talmud
>to the exclusion of everything else."
>
>
>




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Subject: Re: The Kosher Tax: Non Jews have to pay. Part one:
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Beth Dailey  wrote:
>SECRET KOSHER TAX BOOSTS FOOD PRICES 
>
> A Special Report put out by: 
>THE TRUTH AT LAST - P.O. Box 1211, Marietta, Georgia  30061
>and:  Be Wise As Serpents:  http://www.pixi.com/~bewise   Mail
>to:bewise@pixi.com
>
>SECRET KOSHER FOOD TAX INFLATES FOOD COSTS
>
>Christians Are Unaware That All Food Products Marked
>With the "K" or "U" Symbols Have Been Taxed By Jewish Rabbis!
>
>     On every pantry shelf in America lay dozens of canned and packaged food
>products which have a tiny "K" or "U" printed on the label. This symbol informs
>Orthodox Jews that the items have been checked by a rabbi to make sure that 
>they have been prepared in accordance with "Jewish Dietary law" as set forth 
>in the Jewish Talmud -(the real "bible" of the Jews.) Note: See description of
>the Talmud at the end of this article.
>
>     American food companies are forced to pay multi-millions of dollars to
>several Orthodox Jewish organizations just so an estimated 10% to 20% of Jewry,
>(or 800,000 to no more than 1.2 million Orthodox Jews), will buy their products. 
>Please bear in mind that this is a country of  260 million people and we are all forced to
>pay this Kosher Tax just to appease LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION! This comes out of YOUR pocket.
>
>What Does "Kosher" Mean?
>
>     The word "Kosher" means "fit" to eat. Orthodox Jews are forbidden from
>eating meat products from any animal that doesn't have a split hoof and chew 
>its cud. Pigs, (pork), is not kosher because while they do have the split hooves,
>they don't chew their cud. Rabbit meat is not kosher because, while they chew
>their cud, they don't have split hooves. Jews are not allowed to eat any dairy 
>products along with meat at the same meal. If they eat meat at one meal they 
>must wait six hours before they can eat any dairy food.
>
>     All of this is superstitious nonsense and has absolutely nothing to do
>with improving the quality of any food product.  Still, this clever scheme
>of requiring kosher labeling has become a multi-million dollar business
>today!  The Jewish Encyclopedia of 1942 states that the practice of eating
>rabbi-approved "kosher" foods goes back to ancient times when Jews were
>forbidden from eating with or having sex with Gentiles. The Encyclopedia
>says rabbis taught that "Gentiles are ridden with diseases and death from
>unclean habits and that God wishes to protect his people from being
>contaminated by the Gentiles. The non-kosher goods of the Gentiles were
>ruled to have a contaminating effect!" How racist !
>
>Falsehoods Used To Entice Christians To Accept Kosher Products
>
>     One of our subscriber's wrote the "Aunt Jane Foods Co." in Faison, N.C.
>asking how much they pay annually for the use of the "U" symbol.  Ms. Donna 
>Fonvielle, head of Customer Relations, responded that Jews told them that
>by submitting to rabbinical supervision they are informing the public that 
>"kosher products are produced under sanitary conditions."
>
>     The Jewish Press of Feb. 26, 1988, quotes Menachem Lubinsky, a major
>marketer of kosher products as saying, "the industry should tell inquisitive 
>Christians this line, Kosher has become something like the 'Good Housekeeping
>Seal of Approva1'.  It makes a product appear to be healthier and of better quality."
>
>     The Washington Post of Nov. 2, 1987 quotes Rabbi Schulem Rubin, an 
>Orthodox rabbi from the Bronx as declaring:  "Kosher doesn't taste any better;
>kosher isn't healthier; kosher doesn't have less salmonella. You can eat a Holly
>Farm chicken which sells for 39 cents a pound on sale and next taste a Kosher
>chicken selling for $1.69 a pound and not tell the difference. There's a lot
>of money to be made! Religion is not based on logic!"
>
>     The Sun-Sentinel of  March 20, 1987, quotes Rabbi Irving Silverman, who
>organized the recent giant Kosher Foods Exposition in New York City as stating:
>"There's one misconception I would like to clear up.   There's a perception that the
>Jewish dietary laws are steeped in health considerations. That's not so at
>all. It is a commitment to a strict adherence to a tradition, a thread from
>one generation to another.  I'm not kosher because its' healthier - I'm
>kosher because my parents were kosher and my grandparents were kosher.  Its
>a commitment!"
>
>     Rabbi Bernard Levy, head of the Orthodox, "Committee For The
>Furtherance of  Torah Observance," demonstrates how he stamps the Kosher 
>symbol which has made him untold millions of dollars.(Tax free)
>
>     There would be no objection if the small Orthodox Jewish community made
>their own kosher products and paid for them as they did before the kosher business
>was launched in 1919 for the general public. The problem lies in the fact
>that the meaning of these kosher labels is a tightly guarded secret of which
>most Christians have no knowledge.
>
>     America's huge manufacturers of processed food products keep a tight
>lid on this subject so that no explanation is ever allowed to seep out to the public.
>They only run ads announcing which products are kosher in Jewish publications and NEVER in the daily press or on TV.  This subject i=
>s so sensitive that few daily 
>newspapers dare to carry articles about this controversy.  Growing numbers
>of Christians who become aware of the secret kosher tax object to being forced
>to pay it. This is a clear violation of the U.S.Constitution.
>
>Who Receives The Kosher Food Tax Money?
>
>     In 1960 there were only 225 companies paying the kosher food tax. This
>jumped to 475 in 1966 and 800 by 1975. Jewish promoters of kosher labeling
>say there now has been a "kosher food explosion" today with over 16,000
>products now paying rabbinical organizations for their "stamp of kosher approval."   Kosher products retail sales today amount to $3=
>0 billion a year according to 
>"The Chicago Jewish Sentinel" of July 7, 1988.
>
>     Orthodox Jewish organizations have copyrighted certain symbols which
>only they can use. The giant in the business is "The Union of Orthodox Jewish
>Congregations" which issues the "U" imprint. They service some 1,200 
>companies or about 80% of the business. They employ nearly 600 rabbis
>as part-time "checkers." This is twice as many as ten years ago. The next 
>largest is Rabbi Bernard Levy's "Committee For The Furtherance of Torah 
>Observance" which uses the "K" symbol.  
>
>     Canadian Kosher products are stamped with the letters "COR" which
>stands for "Council of Orthodox Rabbis". This is a front group for the powerful
>Canadian Jewish Congress which actually receives all the money from this tax.
>The Jews in Canada are so united they do not allow any competition which is 
>not the case in the U.S. Here a number of Orthodox rabbis have split away from
>the major groups to go into the kosher racket for themselves. (Why split easy 
>money with the higher ups?) Note: This is not Just a problem in the United
>States and Canada. All nations with an Orthodox Jewish population are being
>Extorted this way. Any were you have agents of the World Jewish Congress,
>you have this form of Racketeering. Do to NAFTA, Mexico is flooded with
>this problem. 100 Million Mexicans, mostly Catholic, have to pay tribute to
>Jews in this manner.
>
>     Rabbi Jack Goldman was formerly with the Orthodox Jewish Congregation
>but broke away and now runs the "Metropolitan Kashruth Council of Michigan ". 
>He has several rabbis working for him and they issue an "MK" label. Some 
>believe this stands for "Michigan Kosher." It is said that had he remained in the 
>New York-New Jersey area his life would have been in danger. Note: The symbols
>differ from country to country, to find out what symbols are use in your nation, check
>advertisements in Jewish news papers and magazines.
>
>     Minnesota has Rabbi Asher Zeilingold who immigrated there in 1953 from
>England and today issues his own "K with a shield" to some ISO factories.
>
>     This is strictly a religious tax which millions of Christians
>unknowingly pay each time they buy a basket load of groceries! What would 
>happen if a group of Christian ministers or priests got together and demanded that all 
>companies pay them a similar tax? They could use a "C," symbol (for Christian), 
>or a cross, (for Christ), threatening that those who refuse to print such a label
>on their products would be boycotted by Christians.
>
>     If that happened you would hear an enraged outcry from the ACLU,
>American Jewish Committee, Jewish Anti-Defamation League, etc. They would
>be filing suits to stop this "violation of  the Constitutional provisions providing for the separation of Church and State." But, be=
>cause of the Jews' centuries old claim of 
>being "a poor persecuted people" along with the Christian fear of being accused of
>"anti-Semitism," there is a deafening silence on this problem.
>
>The Great Kosher Scandal Will One Day Explode
>
>The New York Times, a Jewish owned daily, in a rare article on this subject
>back on May 18, 1975, reported that kosher symbols are deliberately printed
>"unobtrusively on labels" so that they will go unnoticed by Christians. In
>Jewish publications large ads are run to instruct Jews to buy only kosher
>marked items. In other words, the Jews are boycotting all products which do
>not pay the kosher tax! The biggest secret of all is the exact ANNUAL amount
>these companies pay to Orthodox rabbis. This same "Times" article stated:
>"Neither kosher group will disclose what gross revenues  are, nor, are
>corporations anxious to make their own payments public."
>
>     How often do we hear our congressmen demand that there be "truth in
>advertising" and that the "consumer must be protected?"
>
>     "The Times" writer, Leonard Sloane, quizzed Rabbi Bernard Levy about
>this and only received an evasive reply. Levy stated that the average cost to a concern
>for kosher inspections runs from $1,000 for a "mom and pop" operation to $40,000 per
>plant for the larger corporations.  But, he quickly added, that these charges can go much
>higher because they are "all keyed to the frequency of inspection which
>could be on a continuous, daily, weekly, monthly or quarterly basis."
>
>     The rabbi decides how often your plant must be inspected.  Remember,
>these are figures from 1975 - HOW MUCH HIGHER ARE THEY TODAY?
>
>Jewish Editor Calls Kosher Labeling A"'Racket"
>
>The Jewish Newsletter is published by William Zukerman.  In 1970 he came out
>with a super-sensational article charging that Orthodox rabbis had turned the
>kosher labeling business into a multi-million dollar racket.  He said that absolutely
>nothing which does not contain meat or a meat by-product needs a kosher
>label.  He quotes Mrs. Weiss-Rosmarin, "the greatest rabbinical authority,"
>as testifying that no soft drink, Coca-Cola, nor any other drink needs
>kosher approval.  
>
>     Zuckerman charges that "unscrupulous or bogus rabbis" are in back of
>this "racket" and when eventually exposed, "this will develop into a scandal
>which will rock organized Jewry to its foundation:"  
>
>     The B'nai B'rith Messenger in its April 2, 1965 edition warned that "a
>nationally known rabbi who had promised to expose the kosher racket was
>allegedly told to shut-up or else!" Zuckerman has stated that Jews who dare
>to speak out against the Kosher Food Racket face physical danger.  Powerful
>people do not want any of their own kind to rock the boat by exposing this
>multi-million dollar fraud.
>
>     American food products are already checked by local and federal
>governmental agencies for purity and edibility. Jewish kosher certification in no way
>whatsoever makes them any more sanitary or wholesome.  Orthodox Jewish
>organizations send rabbis to all the food companies in America.  They tell
>them that Jews will refuse to buy their products if they are not marked with
>the "U" or "K" kosher symbol. The truth is that only Orthodox Jews, (less
>than 1.2 million), follow kosher dietary laws. The rabbis broadly hint that
>any refusal to pay for these "kosher inspections" would indicate that they
>are "unfriendly or insensitive" to Jewry. They a labeled 
>anti-Semites and all hell breaks loose THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF
>A VEILED THREAT OF PURE BLACKMAIL AND IS  ILLEGAL! 
>If someone with  an Italian last name did this, they would be in prison by now.

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