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such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and
refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think
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------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------

January 2, 1997

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

Well, a new year is here, and I am happy to report that a new wind is
blowing.  So far, only in gusts- but, boy, does it feel good to fill your
lungs with air and watch the cob webs swirl!

Remember how I mentioned in a ZGrams just a few weeks ago that Ernst
suggested to the Swiss banks they ought to ". . . invest in Revisionism"
since doing so would be, by far, the cheaper, smarter route to go than to
". . . succumb to  blackmail regarding so-called Nazi loot"?

Ernst was the one, in fact,  who has called the Holocaust ". . . parasitism
elevated to a state of doctrine" for some time.  Since 1981, he has openly
called it an extortion racket.  He has told every Revisionist leader,
writer and researcher since at least 1988 that ". . . we must hammer away
at this latest tool of the eternal parasite - people who hide behind their
self-proclaimed, massively propagandized victimhood, while practicing their
Holocaust terrorism, Holocaust blackmail and Holocaust extortion racket . .
. "

Bernie Farber, head of the Canadian Jewish Congress in his testimony in
Ottawa before the SIRC Committee this spring, correctly pointed out that ".
. . Zundel goes further than any other Holocaust Denier,"  making a direct
connection from the Holocaust story to Jewish greed and money grubbing by
calling it an extortion racket.

That's why there are such desperate attempts in Canada to shut Ernst Zundel
up.  That's how you earn yourself derogatory titles such as "evil
magician," "anti-Semite",  "hate monger" and, for good measure, "racist".
That's why the opposition has to mobilize the media of Canada, spend
millions of tax payers' money, and get huge government organizations to act
as their hit squads for them.  Ernst Zundel of Toronto, Canada - a "crank"
whom no one in his right mind,  takes seriously?

Well.  That is not how the cookie crumbles.

Day before yesterday, the President of Switzerland drew himself up to his
full height on his last day in office, and said, OFFICIALLY, as the first
leader in the so-called "free" world -  what Ernst Zundel has said all
along!

None other than Swiss President Jean-Pascal Delamuraz, in a newspaper
interview, stated that Jewish demands for a fund to be set up for Jews who
MIGHT be entitled to money supposedly stolen by Swiss banks during World
War II was "blackmail" and "extortion".

"This is nothing less than extortion and blackmail," Delamuraz said,
referring to a "temporary fund" suggested as an interim arrangement.  "This
fund would make it much more difficult to establish the truth.  Such a fund
would be considered an admission of guilt."

The President of Switzerland went even further.  He pointed out that
criticism of Swiss banks and the country's war role was not only

". . . due to the nature of the revelations but equally to the not very
pure intentions which lay at their origin."

In this newspaper interview with a reporter from Tribune de Geneve,
Delamuraz reiterated the Swiss government's stance that any compensation
measures should wait for the findings of a nine-member historical panel
named by the Cabinet two weeks ago to investigate the Swiss financial role
in World War II.

Now when Ernst Zundel speaks, here's how he puts these matters:

". . . We are dealing with Ghetto-gangster elements in pin-striped suits
who carry calculators in their violin cases, rather than Thompson machine
guns, the way it was done at the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.  The take of
their terrorism is far more lucrative than if they had used guns.  Dead
victims don't pay 'reparations'".

Live victims, of course, do.  They pay through the nose and keep paying.

Germans have paid to various "beneficiaries" more than DM 100 billion in
the past half century.  Now Switzerland is supposed to start paying - along
with a whole slew of financially less-endowed countries - such as Poland,
for instance, on whom the same elements are kneeling to pay for all the
so-called "confiscated" Jewish property.  The Poles are in a worse fix -
they are worried that if they pay the Jews, then they will also have to pay
compensation to the Silesians and the East and West Prussians.  Such
reparations payments would amount to trillions, not just billions.  So this
development is pregnant with trouble.

And speaking of billions if not trillions:  According to the Washington
Report on Middle East Affairs, October 1996, (p. 44) Americans have
supported the state of Israel to the tune of more than $5.5 billion in 1996
alone.  Imagine how much it adds up to, directly and indirectly, since
1948!  And no end yet in sight!

Somewhere I read that the Aryan race is the only race on earth that carries
its own parasites on its back wherever it goes and wherever it settles -
like some exotic animal species take with them parasitic birds in Africa.
Repeat after me, class:  "The Holocaust is NOT about this so-called
victimhood.  It is a clever TOOL for making victims out of fools by playing
on their sympathies!"

Said Swiss President Delamuraz, who doubles up as economics minister and,
hence, has the credentials, that the initial Swiss response to criticism of
the Swiss banking system had been "naive" - exactly what Ernst said in one
of his newsletters when this matter first came to the fore.

Delamuraz:  "No one . . . appears to see that apart from dogged research
into historical truth there is also a strong political desire to
destabilize and compromise Switzerland," he said.

"This has one link in Washington and another in London, where it was a
matter of nothing else than trying to demolish Switzerland's status as a
financial center," Delamuraz is reported to have said to a reporter of this
French-language Swiss newspaper.

Said Zundel, the Outspoken Swabian:

"No wonder that they want to criminalize Holocaust Denial and Holocaust
Revisionism.  We are the ones who are blowing the whistle on them.  The
Holocaust Promotion Lobby has a protection racket going that makes the
standard Mafia-take mere chicken feed.  These folks are criminals.
Extortionists.  They are hiding behind victimhood while operating on a
global scale.  Show the first sign of weakness, and the hyenas will move
in.

"Remember the IKEA flap, where this billion dollar Swedish furniture store
chain was accused of having a president who belonged to a Nazi organization
at the end of the war?  World-wide strikes were threatened by the Simon
Wiesenthal Center, and only when the chain's management flew to Los Angeles
and promised to establish a store in Israel were the threatened strikes put
on hold.

"Remember how the Japanese caved in when. in a similar situation, action
was threatened against Marco Polo Magazine, a lucrative, highly popular
upscale glossy publication?  One of my Japanese contacts had been able to
place a seven page, top notch Revisionist article.  Immediately, the
Israeli consulate and the Simon Wiesenthal Center dispatched a delegation
to Tokyo and leaned on Volkswagen Japan to withdraw its large ads from the
magazine.  The Japanese magazine's management, defiant at first, obediently
caved in after its huge parent corporation fell all over itself in abjectly
apologizing to the Jewish Lobby.

"Result?  Everybody was fired.  The entire magazine disbanded.

"These are just two examples of Holocaust terrorism to extort behavior
favorable and profitable to current, not past, Jewish interests.  We ought
to finally get it straight in 1997, now that we can quote a President . . .
"

Does the common man in the street need "hate laws"?  Or does the Holocaust
Promotion Lobby need them sorely?  You ask yourself that question.  You
have in Switzerland a country that WILLINGLY criminalized skepticism about
the Auschwitz "gas chambers" a mere few years ago, thereby legally painting
itself in a corner!

The Swiss are in a fix now.  They have outlawed Holocaust skepticism and
questioning the details of so-called "gassing" stories and other
fabrications.  Was it done by forces behind the scenes who knew the "Nazi
Gold" scheme was coming?  With this "hate law" in place, the Swiss disarmed
themselves before the struggle for truth in their history even got going!
How can the banks play the Revisionist card now?  Publish their findings,
which will have to be Revisionist information if they are honest findings,
and go directly to jail?

Well, it is not too late.  There still is Jurgen Graf, right there in
Switzerland, to name just one Revisionist - and what a powerhouse of pen,
that one!

It would be a magnificent beginning if tiny Switzerland would lead the way
and systematically start using the hard work of people such as Graf and
other pioneers who have, as one of our correspondents put it, ". . . thrown
careers and reputations to the winds in their pursuit of truth and
fairness. . . " and who, this writer then goes on to say while quoting from
a dusty book he found in an old box, ". . .  gave their breast(s) to the
bullets of a mob, for the rights of free speech and opinion."

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"1997 = The Year of the Struggle.  Give it your all!"

(Michael Hoffman II)

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From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Fri Jan  3 07:42:14 PST 1997
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I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor
such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and
refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think
critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the
below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me,
rcgraves@ix.netcom.com.

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------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------

January 1, 1997

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

With the New Year only a few hours old, it is time to look back - and ahead.

It has been a remarkable year.  Without a doubt, the Zundelsite is now a
global concept.  Hundreds of media sources have commented on our work, and
in a recent article in the Toronto Star, the Zundelsite was sourly
proclaimed as THE one website ". . . most likely to be censored."

That's our badge of honor!

There are a lot of websites out there that speak much more bluntly than we
do.  The difference is that we say things responsibly.  With impact.  Where
it hurts.

Another writer grudgingly conceded our Revisionist march in a similar vein,
adding that " . . . (i)n the U.S., Mr. Zundel is an anonymous crank.  In
Canada, he's a celebrity."

The gent has that one backwards!

Here is more of his commentary, as taken from a December 2 Globe and Mail
write-up:

"Many high profile attempts to regulate speech on the Net are ultimately
self-defeating.  When German officials tried to block the Ernst Zundel
website, which originates in the US, it was picked up and "mirrored" in
other places.  Quarry outside a country's borders can be elusive.  But in
cases where national laws accord - kiddie porn is almost universally
illegal - prosecution and shut-down could be swifter.

Neo-Nazis and other racists are a more challenging case, because the United
States does not consider hate speech a crime.  Maybe the Americans are onto
something.

And Canada's favorite neo-Nazi is about to get even more free publicity.
The Canadian Human Rights Commission wants its crack at the
California-based Zundel web site.  Good luck.  All these attempts to
prosecute Mr. Zundel only make things worse.  How many readers would even
have heard of the guy if Canadian governments hadn't gone to the trouble of
offering him a decade's worth of courtroom soapboxes?

New technology, same old mistakes . . . "

Now all this pundit needs to do is to convince Sabina - and members of her
tribe!

It has been hard, hard work - but what a pay-off!  What a pay-off!

In terms of quantitative data, as of December 31, we have logged a total of
143,811 visitors with858,385 documents accessed.  As I have mentioned
previously, we did not start tallying from the beginning.  Had we done
that, and had we not had several technical shutdowns and other
interferences through censorship, chances are we would have topped the 1
million document milestone as of last night, December 31.

My goal is to make it 6 million - hard-hitting, solid Revisionist documents
downloaded planet-wide by December 31, 1997 - a goal which should be
reachable if all our friends help spreading the Zundelsite story   (the
name alone will pull it up through the search engines) to editors,
newsgroups etc.  Just practice saying it!  It will turn into Revisionist
gold!

Our e-mail now runs as high as 300 letters a day.  A slow day has about 100
letters.  I can barely keep up, and it is worrisome to me because I have
had to start deleting so as not to clog my computer and personally drown in
e-mail, and much of what I throw into the trash is probably of documentary
value to future generations.

I have also learned invaluable lessons about the tactics employed against
us.  By far, the most frequently employed weapon - and what a shabby one at
that! - is personal demonization, character assassination and vilification.
Subtract the shrieks, and very little else is left of a substantive nature
or content to counter our views.  And once you realize that, the battle is
more than half-won.  The antidote is one I learned a long, long time ago.
Back on the farm some cattle taught me well - just don't step into it!
Ignore it.  It will dry.  Fresh air and plenty of exposure to the light of
day is going to make it stop smelling!

Looking ahead, here's what I wish for most:  That more good, honest people
came forward, saying simply:  "Count me in."  It's mostly attitude.
Commitment doesn't have to come in big, dramatic ways, nor does it have to
be grounded in an ideology that many still find hard to grasp in its entire
scope.  We aren't ushering the Brownshirts in;  we are about correcting
history and ushering in Truth in History so that mankind be liberated from
half a century of lies!  With truthful information, the rest will just
slide into place.

In one of our documents where we ask for our readers' help, we say the
following:

"People associated with, and sympathetic to, Ernst Zundel's struggle to
rehabilitate the falsely accused and politically victimized German nation
are not a political party and not strict followers of any ideology. We
don't have or require formal membership. We don't require a racialist,
Christian or national-socialist mindset or a specific political
orientation.

We simply ask that you respect our right to think, say and do what we like,
to let us be who we are and what we represent, and to let us have our
rightful place in the community of nations.

       We ask that you assist us systematically if you are so inclined. If
you give us your support, we promise that we will enrich your lives in ways
you could not ever have imagined. There's nothing as rewarding for the soul
as following the "Search for Truth," wherever it may lead.

We now live in the "Age of Lies" of which past seers and great thinkers,
such as the Pan-Aryan thinker, Savitri Devi, spoke in her trail-blazing
treatise, "The Lightning and the Sun."

       We want to usher in the "Age of Truth" - not with a New World Order,
but with a True  World Order."

And though many of us are of German background, our struggle is no longer
national.  It is, however, ethnic.  We are determined to stop the
relentless and vicious abuse directed at Western Civilization in general,
no longer just the German nation.   That is the reason why now so many
members of other nationalities - Americans, Poles, French, Belgian,
Spaniards, Brazilians, even Mexicans and Turks - have joined us in our
struggle.

We promise you that your respect for us will grow. You will get to know us
better and understand what we are all about - not people who hate other
races but people who dearly love their own.

       THIS IS A STRUGGLE NOT FOR LAND OR POWER OR POSSESSION BUT FOR THE
MIND OF MAN.

WILL WE BE SLAVES - OR FREE?  That is the bottom line.

Yesterday, my friend Anita called me up to wish me a happy New Year.  In
conversation with Anita, I mentioned the "black struggle."

That's when Anita said:  "Do me a favor, please.  Don't call me black.  I'm
colored.  I'm a Negro.  I bitterly resent these PC labels that were forced
on me, back in the Sixties when all this mischief hit the colleges.  I
prefer to use the term my family always used. The same people who have made
the Germans out to be barbarians have made us out to be stupid.  We know we
aren't stupid.  You know you're not barbarian.  Just like you said - we
have a common enemy.  I would just like to get into the ring and put myself
right next to the Germans, roll up my sleeves and start swinging!"

If she, an American Nego, can feel like that, what about you out there -
you who have children with blue eyes and blond hair and freckles?  You owe
them.

I have thought long and hard about a summarizing construct to give to you
as guidepost for this coming year on which to train yourself, and I have
come up, naturally, with Racial Athlete.  No one is going to strengthen
your muscles for you.  It takes self-motivation.  Discipline.  A
willingness to sacrifice.  Rigorous, uncompromising training - day after
day, and schedule by scheduile.  Deep inner knowledge that, no matter what
it takes, the outcome makes it worthwhile.

Get ready now for 1997.  Don't expect anyone to babysit your grievances
and tell you what to do.    Just follow your instincts;  follow your
drummer.  Do  what you feel in your gut to be RIGHT.   The rest will take
care of itself.

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"He is not free who can do what he will, but who can become what he should."

(Paul de Lagarde in "Deutsche Schriften")


















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From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Sat Jan  4 09:44:19 PST 1997
Article: 90936 of alt.revisionism
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Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:01:30 -0800
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Subject: 970104: Israel and the UN
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delimiter is true. Said material is Copyright 1996 Ingrid Rimland, posted
by permission (see ZGram 961208). These four header paragraphs are not.

I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor
such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and
refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think
critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the
below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me,
rcgraves@ix.netcom.com.

In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and
countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may
read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept
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------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------

January 4, 1997

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

Recently, a "Letter to the Editor" campaign was sent out of the
Zundel-Haus.  I set its contents aside as one of my "Shocking List" ZGrams
- such as the "List of the Annas" and the "support list" for the convicted
Jewish-American spy Jonathan Pollard by Jewish synagogues and
organizations.

Here is what was shipped from the Zundel-Haus:

"We have just celebrated International Human Rights Day.  It would be
helpful if ALL people could  enjoy those rights proclaimed so loftily by
organizations such as the United Nations - not just the politically
privileged few.

The General Assembly of the UN has recognized ". . . the fundamental right
(of Palestinians) to struggle '. . . by any means at their disposal.'"  So
let's examine the "Human Rights" record, as documented by the UN, of one
state and people who accuse the Germans all the time about their so-called
"human rights violations" alleged to have occurred more than 50 years ago.


In "Deliberate Deceptions:  Facing the Facts About US-Israeli Relationship"
(Lawrence Hill Books, 1995) author Paul Findley makes the point that
Israel, with the collusion of the power elite on our continent, has been
successful over the decades in keeping the United Nations on the sidelines
in efforts to find a solution to the Middle East problem and to create real
peace:

Here is a list of UN Resolutions, 1955-1992:

*        Resolution 106:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid"
*        Resolution 111:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that
killed fifty-six people"
*        Resolution 127:  ". . . 'recommends' Israel suspend its 'no-man's
zone' in Jerusalem"
*        Resolution 162:  ". . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions"
*        Resolution 171:  ". . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel
in its attack on Syria"
*        Resolution 228:  ". . . 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu
in the West Bank, then under Jordanian        control"
*        Resolution 237:  ". . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967
Palestinian refugees"
*        Resolution 248:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack
on Karameh in Jordan"
*        Resolution 250:  ". . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding
military parade in Jerusalem"
*        Resolution 251:  ". . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade
in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
*        Resolution 252:  ". . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify
Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
*        Resolution 256:  ". . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as
'flagrant violation""
*        Resolution 259:  ". . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN
mission to probe occupation"
*        Resolution 262:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airp=
ort"
*        Resolution 265:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt
in Jordan"
*        Resolution 267:  ". . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts
to change the status of Jerusalem"
*        Resolution 270:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on
villages in southern Lebanon"
*        Resolution 271:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN
resolutions on Jerusalem"
*        Resolution 279:  ". . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces
>from  Lebanon"
*        Resolution 280:  ". . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebano=
n"
*        Resolution 285:  ". . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal
form Lebanon"
*        Resolution 298:  ". . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status
of Jerusalem"
*        Resolution 313:  ". . . 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against
Lebanon"
*        Resolution 316:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on
Lebanon"
*        Resolution 317:  ". . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release
Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
*        Resolution 332:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks
against Lebanon"
*        Resolution 337:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's
sovereignty"
*        Resolution 347:  ". . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
*        Resolution 425:  ". . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces
>from  Lebanon"
*        Resolution 427:  ". . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its
withdrawal from Lebanon'
*        Resolution 444:  ". . . 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation
with UN peacekeeping forces"
*        Resolution 446:  ". . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are
a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on        Israel to abide by the
=46ourth Geneva Convention"
*        Resolution 450:  ". . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon=
"
*        Resolution 452:  ". . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building
settlements in occupied territories"
*        Resolution 465:  ". . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks
all member states not to assist Israel's      settlements program"
*        Resolution 467:  ". . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military
intervention in Lebanon"
*        Resolution 468:  ". . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal
expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge  and to facilitate their
return"
*        Resolution 469:  ". . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to
observe the council's order not to deport      Palestinians"
*        Resolution 471:  ". . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's
failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva     Convention"
*        Resolution 476:  ". . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to
Jerusalem are 'null and void'"
*        Resolution 478:  ". . . 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms'
for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'"
*        Resolution 484:  ". . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel
re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
*        Resolution 487:  ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack
on Iraq's nuclear facility"
*        Resolution 497:  ". . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of
Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and     demands that Israel
rescinds its decision forthwith"
*        Resolution 498:  ". . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
*        Resolution 501:  ". . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against
Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
*        Resolution 509:  ". . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces
forthwith and unconditionally from   Lebanon"
*        Resolution 515:  ". . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of
Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought   in"
*        Resolution 517:  ". . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN
resolutions and demands that Israel   withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
*        Resolution 518:  ". . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with
UN forces in Lebanon"
*        Resolution 520:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut=
"
*        Resolution 573:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing
Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
*        Resolution 587:  ". . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel
to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and       urges all parties to
withdraw"
*        Resolution 592:  ". . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of
Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by      Israeli troops"
*        Resolution 605:  ". . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and
practices denying the human rights of        Palestinians
*        Resolution 607:  ". . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport
Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the  Fourth Geneva
Convention
*        Resolution 608:  ". . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied
the United Nations and deported Palestinian    civilians"
*        Resolution 636:  ". . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of
Palestinian civilians
*        Resolution 641:  ". . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation
of Palestinians
*        Resolution 672:  ". . . 'condemns' Israel for violence against
Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple      Mount
*        Resolution 673:  ". . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate
with the United Nations
*        Resolution 681:  ". . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the
deportation of Palestinians
*        Resolution 694:  ". . . 'deplores' Israel's deportation of
Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and       immediate
return
*        Resolution 726:  ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation
of Palestinians
*        Resolution 799:  ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation
of 413 Palestinians and calls for their       immediate return.

(statistics taken from the above-mentioned title, pages 188 - 192)

The following are the resolutions vetoed by the United States during the
period of  September, 1972,  to May, 1990 to protect Israel from council
criticism:

*               . . . condemned Israel's attack against Southern against
southern Lebanon and Syria. . . "
*               . . . affirmed the rights of the Palestinian people to
self-determination, statehood and equal protections. . . "
*                . . . condemned Israel's air strikes and attacks in
southern Lebanon and its murder of innocent civilians. . . "
*                . . . called for self-determination of Palestinian people.
. . "
*                . . deplored Israel's altering of the status of Jerusalem,
which is recognized as an international city by most        world nations
and the United Nations . . . "
*               . . . affirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian
people . . . "
*                . . . endorsed self-determination for the Palestinian
people  . . . "
*               . . . demanded Israel's withdrawal from the Golan Heights .
. . "
*               . . . condemned Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians in
the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip and its refusal  to abide by the
Geneva convention protocols of civilized nations. . . "
*               . . . condemned an Israeli soldier who shot eleven Moslem
worshippers at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple     Mount near Al-Aqsa Mosque in
the Old City of Jerusalem. . . "
*               . . . urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw
>from  its invasion of Lebanon . . . "
*                . . . urged sanctions against Israel if it did not
withdraw from its invasion of Beirut. . . "
*               . . . urged cutoff of economic aid to Israel if it refused
to withdraw from its occupation of Lebanon. . . "
*                . . . condemned continued Israeli settlements in occupied
territories in the West Bank and Gaza Strip,         denouncing them as an
obstacle to peace. . . "
*               . . . deplores Israel's brutal massacre of Arabs in Lebanon
and urges its withdrawal. . . "
*                . . . condemned Israeli brutality in southern Lebanon and
denounced the Israeli 'Iron Fist' policy of repression.      . . "
*               . . . denounced Israel's violation of human rights in the
occupied territories. . . "
*                . . . deplored Israel's violence in southern Lebanon. . . "
*               . . . deplored Israel's activities in occupied Arab East
Jerusalem that threatened the sanctity of Muslim holy  sites. . . "
*               . . . condemned Israel's hijacking of a Libyan passenger
airplane. . . "
*                . . . deplored Israel's attacks against Lebanon and its
measures and practices against the civilian population of      Lebanon. . .
"
*               . . . called on Israel to abandon its policies against the
Palestinian intifada that violated the rights of occupied    Palestinians,
to abide by the Fourth Geneva Conventions, and to formalize a leading role
for the United         Nations in future peace negotiations. . . "
*               . . . urged Israel to accept back deported Palestinians,
condemned Israel's shooting of civilians, called on Israel     to uphold
the Fourth Geneva Convention, and called for a peace settlement under UN
auspices. . . "
*                . . . condemned Israel's . .  incursion into Lebanon. . . "
*                . . . deplored Israel's . . . commando raids on Lebanon. .=
 . "
*               . . . deplored Israel's repression of the Palestinian
intifada and called on Israel to respect the human rights of      the
Palestinians. . . "
*               . . . deplored Israel's violation of the human rights of
the Palestinians. . . "
*               . . . demanded that Israel return property confiscated from
Palestinians during a tax protest and allow a fact-finding mission to
observe Israel's crackdown on the Palestinian intifada . . . "
*               . . . called for a fact-finding mission on abuses against
Palestinians in Israeli-occupied lands. . .  "

(statistics taken from the above-mentioned title, pages 192 - 194)

                                                        Ernst Z=FCndel

Thought for the Day:

"The 1996 total . . . in U.S. grants and loan guarantees (to Israel)
amounts to $15,083,  013.67 per day, seven days a week, 365 days a year."

(The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, October issue, page 44)

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January 5, 1997

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

Today will be short and prosaic.  I need your help in several ways:

*       I still need translators for our 8-point "Holocaust Hoax 101"
document.  I have started an International Page and have already placed
English, Swedish, Portuguese and German.  Japanese and Romanian documents
have been translated as well but have not yet been placed.  The rest are
still to come.  Visit the Zundelsite at
http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/00.html and let me know if you can
help with translations.  The original document from which you would
translate is the very first - the English one.

*       I have had many requests for translation of my ZGrams into German.
This should be someone who is retired and has lots of time on his or her
hands.  It's practically a full-time job, believe me!

*       I need someone in the United States who can occasionally type and
copy-edit in German and e-mail documents to me.  (It is too expensive to
fax originals to other countries)

*       A fellow Revisionist has offered to pay a talented cartoonist for
her services.  The Zundelsite is not an option for cartoons, since Ernst
has zero tolerance for what he calls frivolity, but many people believe in
"stripped down messages" as one of several effective tools to be used on
behalf of our cause.

Is there a website owner interested in hosting that project?  There are
hilarious cartoons already published, especially in France, that show  that
the pomposity of the conventional Holocaust version is being attacked by
mainstream media cartoonists - such as the Abbe Pierre cartoons that gave
"left-handed" compliments to Dr. Faurisson and other Revisionist pioneers
in France.

I believe cartoons are legitimate evidence of Revisionist inroads into the
consciousness of people in the mainstream.  If Revisionist cartoons fit
into your website profile, let me know, and I will pass it on.

Also, a little housekeeping item:

*       If your name drops from my list and you don't want it to be
dropped, LET ME KNOW.  If my ZGrams don't arrive several days in a row, LET
ME KNOW.  (We still have lots of e-mail-bomb mischief and other sabotage)
But ZGrams are being shipped every day, even when I am traveling.  For
various technical and time-constraint reasons, sometimes they go out late
in the afternoon or even evening, but I have NEVER missed a day yet - nor
will I, if it can be helped.

Finally, there are a couple of website updates:

*       There is an Arthur Butz/Epstein update at:
www.k9ape.com/c96/candor01.html  This story has got to be savored!

*       There is a new Revisionist research service available at the Fenix
site called Belling Books.  I have used it in the past and have found it
both prompt and reliable.  For those of you into research, set some time
aside to get a feel for all the books and documents out there you haven't
yet had a chance to read.  www.smartnet.net/~fbooks

Have a productive and committed 1997!

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"One cannot kill a spiritual master and just think, '. . . that's that!'"

(Jan van Helsing in "Secret Societies and their Power in the 20th Century")


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January 6, 1997

Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

Here is a topic that has been bothering me for quite some time to which I
do not have an answer.  It is the topic of our personal security.

Ernst is constantly onto my case because he worries for my safety - he
feels I am too free and careless with revealing personal aspects of my
life.  I remember quite some time ago a conversation on this topic where
Ernst said that he did not wish to ". . . give the enemy the power to alter
too much of your personality, but . . . " and then gave several very good
reasons why I should be more circumspect.

I am not a secretive person, and it causes me profound discomfort to
disguise who I am, what I do, and where I might or might not be.  I also
feel there is a principle involved because we should stand straight for
what we say and do.  Furthermore, I don't think that this struggle will be
as efficient as it should if it is underground.  The more people stand up
to be counted, the stronger we will be.

But, lately, I have received several threatening calls as well as ugly
e-mail, and I know that others in the forefront of this battle have
experienced much the same - and so I want to throw a few reader responses
out for feedback.

How do YOU handle this?  What are your personal strategies?

Here's one:

"In today's Zgram you mentioned that you can no longer notify recipients of
your Zgram of your planned vacations in advance, due to safety reasons.
Because you have brought the subject up, I am going to now say what I have
thought about your and Mr. Zundel's situation for a while.

I agree that the use of aliases is excessive, and almost cowardly. I am in
the process of discontinuing my own.  But!  I will hold fast to my position
that there is nothing cowardly about covering one's loose ends. I am
referring to published physical addresses, published phone numbers, the not
destroying of one's documentary waste, and the letting out of too much
information about one's personal life routine.

Because of what we know, and because of the abilities we have been given by
chaotic chance, or the ultimate Will of the Cosmos, it is our
responsibility to participate in the historical process. It is our
responsibility to do our best to realize this most important goal,
regardless of selfish desire.

Therefore, we no longer belong only to ourselves anymore! We are agents of
the Will, and to risk our own few-and-far-between selves is to risk the
property of that Will!

A while ago, I read a writing of Mr. Zundel's which was contained in one of
your Zgrams. In it, he told of his fruitless attempt to locate the NIZKOR
office. You know the story. He later went on to exclaim his lack of respect
for those who "hide" behind a mail drop! I respect him greatly. He is my
blood elder who answered the same call I have.

But, for his and your own sake, I don't mind lending my young,
inexperienced opinion. His home was practically burned to the ground. That
setback speaks for itself."

A second wrote:

"I use a pseudonym as part of my effort against the oppressors - I am not
'hiding'! I'm pretty certain that those who 'need to know' are aware of my
identity, but let (the enemy's) foot soldiers stew in their own juice.

When an a/c is found out I change the 'nym and let the idiots go through
the tracing business again ;-).

Of course I realise your comment was a general view on pseudonyms, not to
me in particular, but I thought I'd let you know that they can be of value.


There are many ways of struggle, I happen to favour 'nym systems and PGP
for irritating the enemy."

A third had this to say:

"In this Cold War between patriots and (our opposition), many methods of
struggle may be implemented. For public announcements and megafone personal
opinion, standing up and 'saying out loud what we know in our hearts to be
true' is fair enough.

However for internal matters/tentative personal views, encryption offers
body armour for the patriot who doesn't want his nosy antagonists from
knowing his views/intentions of the moment.

The enemy doesn't (by nature) like being excluded from our lives, and
therefore encryption itself is a form of weapon: they don't like not
knowing what (if anything) is being said.  They think they have the
Yahweh-given right to stick their noses into everything the Goyim do.

The tyrant has to be disabused of the notion that it has the automatic
right to sneak on people, and if we can't alter the fact of their power to
intercept law-abiding citizens messages - we can STOP these arrogant
bastards from reading it.

THIS IS A FORM OF FIGHTING BACK, not hiding."

Well said!  In the future, I shall be more careful!

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular."

(Adlai Stevenson)





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Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

The text below was part of a book review of Buechner's, "The Avengers," and
it speaks to a topic dear to Ernst's heart and fervently hoped for - the
awakening of the American conscience.

It was submitted by one of the most widely read dissident writers, J.B.
Campbell, author of "The American Man".

Here is Part One.   Part Two will come tomorrow:

"The nature of the American government has become clear to those who have
studied its conduct during and after its wars.

The reasons for Sherman's sadistic campaign in Georgia and the Carolinas,
authorized by Grant and Lincoln, which began this country's descent into a
perpetual state of total war, were revealed during the twelve years of
Reconstruction, during which everything of value was stolen from the
surviving Southerners, who were reduced to destitution.

The reason for our seemingly inexplicable participation in World War I was
revealed in the terms and execution of the Versailles Treaty, under which
everything of value was stolen from the surviving Germans, who were reduced
to starvation levels of existence.

The reason for our participation in World War II was revealed by the fact
that we bombed millions of German civilians to death and slaughtered more
millions of them after the war than during the war. In addition, there has
never been a peace treaty with Germany in all these years. It is clear that
the objective of our government is the liquidation or subjugation of the
best of the White race.

Our young people participate in periodic orgies of death and destruction,
the gruesome details of which are suppressed by journalists in league with
the government. Without exception, the Washington government is always the
aggressor. It is always the warlords behind our government who cause the
wars to happen, who prolong the killing beyond comprehension and who profit
>from  the spending of our taxes on the most terrible weapons of mass murder.


600,000 (killed) in Lincoln's War. Ten million in Wilson's War. Forty-five
to sixty million in Roosevelt's War.

The ones who fought and died in (these) wars were better genetic material
than the ones who were kept out for physical reasons, which seems to have
been the whole point. Observe England, which had 450,000 casualties just in
the Battle of the Somme! You can't kill and maim the best of our young men
in these horrible numbers and expect life to go on as usual. Of course, the
warlords didn't expect that it would.

There is something flawed in the American mentality which permits our young
men--and now our young women!--, decade after decade, to drop megatons of
high explosives on other people who have not threatened us in the
slightest.

This must include the Japanese, who were in December, 1941 our number one
trading partner and who had, after the Battle of Midway in April, 1942, as
I quoted the US Strategic Bombing Survey in my 1989 book, The New American
Man, tried in vain to surrender to us right up until we dropped two atom
bombs on them.

Even the Pearl Harbor "sneak attack" was a natural (and expected) response
to Roosevelt's deliberate diplomatic and economic provocations and military
adventures such as his illegal Flying Tigers in China and his illegal naval
operations in the Pacific. We are so provincial and self-important that we
simply cannot imagine how other people see things. Such an idea never even
occurs to us.

It is one of the reasons we are hated so around the world."

Much more could be said, and will be said, in 1997 about that topic.
Meanwhile, consider this, taken from Houston Steward Chamberlain's
"Political Ideals", which shall be your Thought for the Day:

"Ideas work with natural necessity and with elemental power as soon as they
have found their way really into the head and heart of millions:  and so
the field-cry 'freedom' produced the guillotine, the field-cry 'equality'
proscription, the field-cry 'brotherhood'. . . the entire devastation of
the Palatinate, where indeed not only castles and religious institutions,
but especially all the property and possessions of the farmers were
obliterated to the last stock;  and where the 'comrade in command' of those
who implored him that the world betterer should however at least spare
their poor, cried out:  'Everything belongs to us!  We leave you only your
eyes to cry with!'"

Ingrid






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January 8, 1997

Good Morning from the Zundelsite

This is Part II of an analysis by J. B. Campbell, based on a book review of
Buechner's "The Avengers."  Where I substituted words, I put those words in
brackets:

"Enough of us have this deadly combination of ignorance, arrogance,
cowardice and cruelty which leads us inevitably to atrocities, from Atlanta
to Dresden to Hiroshima to My Lai to Panama City to Baghdad to Waco to
Oklahoma City.

This is not to say that we are all ignorant, or arrogant, or cowardly, or
cruel. But the ones who always do the dirty work against our latest enemy
are found on our military bases.

By their very youthful nature they are ignorant. They often become quite
arrogant when given power over others. They are not brave enough to say
"no" when ordered to attack civilian targets or slaughter unarmed prisoners
of war. Their natural cruelty is easily exploited by psycho-specialists who
can quickly condition them to hate and kill strangers en masse with simple
propaganda and big lies.

And then there are our non-aggression pacts and actual military partnership
with the Soviet Union. This last item is something from which America will
never recover. Our little military arrangement with Israel is an obscenity
but our partnership with the Soviets was so horrific that it may never
become possible for future Americans to come to terms with it.

Our military partnership with the Soviet Communists from 1942 to 1945 was
the watershed event in human history. It was during this four-year period
that the New World Order, as we know and fear it, became established.

Following our mutual destruction of Germany and most of Europe, we
encouraged our partners to subject hundreds of millions of people, from
East Germany to China, to the gory delights of  insatiable fiends known as
commissars. Millions were slaughtered or sent to slave labor camps and
psychiatric prisons. The rest have lived in abject terror of sharing the
victims' fates.

Our government made this happen. For example, our government in 1945
ordered our wonderful boys in Austria and Italy to round up millions of
anti-communist Russians and East Europeans at gunpoint, process them and
force them at bayonet point into box cars to be shipped to Stalin for
execution in what the army called "Operation Keelhaul." The Soviets
couldn't have gotten their hands on these people without our help.

Our government pretended to be shocked at Soviet "excesses" while it
continued to support its partner with military and financial aid, all
conducted profitably through the warlords' New York banks, to the present
day.

This included the forty-five year period of the phoney "Cold War."

The fact that both the Capitalist and Communist systems are controlled is
known or suspected by many of our people. Many of those who know feel that
it would be impolite to mention this fact. They have been conditioned to
feel this way. It is incumbent on those of us who know this fact to
re-condition them to speak freely. It is incumbent on all of us to make
(the perpetrators) feel uncomfortable in our knowledge of their activities.

The high death rate in Germany toward the end of the war was the result of
our wonderful boys in their fighter planes flying around at will, blasting
things on the ground to smithereens. Anything that moved was destroyed.
Chuck Yeager brags that he strafed farmers on their tractors. Trains were
favorite targets--they loved to hit the steam engines and watch them
explode. Trucks carrying food--well, forget them!

All of Germany was starving and those in the camps starved right along with
them. Those who cannot quite comprehend this sort of thing today must only
look back to 1991 when our wonderful boys completely destroyed life as it
was known in Baghdad and other Iraqi cities and towns.   (Special
interests) had demanded that Iraq be destroyed by us and within a few short
months it was so."

And is it over yet?  Here is what is still happening, according to the
latest issue (Jan/Feb.'97) of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs:

"Commendable U.S. government and media concern for relieving famine in
Zaire and Rwanda stand in sharp contrast to the continuing major famine
which the United States has caused in Iran.

"What the Iraqi people have been suffering is a continuing hell on earth
the dimensions of which are staggering.  Carol Bellamy, who heads the
United Nations Relief Fund, estimates that in Iraq 'approximately 4.500
children under the age of five die every month from hunger and disease.' .
. .

"Add to that those who died during the 100-hour ground war, when a bomb a
minute was dropped. . . .

"Today, almost six years after the end of the Gulf War, as many as 100,000
Iraqis may still be dying every year for lack of food and medicine."  (p.
17)

Thought for the Day:

"Why should martial law not be proclaimed continuously against baseness and
profiteering?"

(Houston Stewart Chamberlain in "Political Ideals")






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Good Morning from the Zundelsite:

I have often thought that one of the markers of proving that our mission is
correct is that intellectual fatalities are practically non-existent.  Once
you become convinced of the scientific evidence and subsequent inherent
logic of the Revisionist argument, there is no going back.

Not all of us choose to act on Revisionist content and draw the necessary
consequences, but it is hard to lie to yourself when you, quite simply,
know better.

In fact, when I first started thinking about strictly Revisionist
defectors, I could come up with only two:  Jean Claude Pressac and a woman
named Cecelia who speaks German with a Yiddish accent.  (Ernst told me
since that he knows of a third, Charles Provan of Cleveland.  Not bad for
twenty years of inroads into the greatest hoax in history!)

So for a week or two I thought that there were three.  Since then, I have
received word from a fellow Revisionist that we are back to two:

"Your labelling of Pressac once having been a Revisionist is not correct.
In fact he never became a guy who was looking for the truth.

He got into contact with Dr. Faurisson because he was looking for material
for his planned novel "If Hitler Would Have Won The War".  Dr. Faurisson
gave him tasks to do for getting knowledge about the topic he was
interested in, but Dr. Faurisson recognized quickly that Pressac wasn't
able to do any concentrated, systematic, scientific work.

When Pressac realized Dr. Faurisson's willingness to find and tell only the
truth and nothing but the truth and that it would be better ( for Pressac's
purposes ) to be satisfied with bits and pieces of the truth, Dr. Faurisson
refused to have further contact with him.

That's the story as it was told to me by Dr. Faurisson in December 1991, as
far as I remember.

Pressac phoned me at the Max-Planck-Institute in early spring 1993 after I
wrote him two letters without getting any reply. He told me that my
behaviour as a Revisionist researcher was extremely dangerous for me, that
I should be very cautious, and that it would be better for me not to tell
the whole truth.

I told him that I didn't want to talk with him on the phone but that I was
waiting for a reply to my letters. He refused to write me because it would
be dangerous for him to answer my questions, he explained.

You can think what you want about this. For me it was the proof that
Pressac is still what he was, when he first met Dr. Faurisson: He is
absolutely convinced that the Revisionists are right, but he is full of
fear saying it.

His tactics are "salami tactics" as one can see by reading his books. In
each issue he comes a bit closer to the whole (revisionist) truth.

But now the Jews have recognised his tactics and refuse to continue their
support. They noticed that Pressac was cheating.  Now, Pressac is unmasked
as what he is: A lying semi-revisionist mole."

Any more semi-Revisionist moles out there who can be spotted by their
salami tactics?

Ingrid

Thought for the Day:

"The history of the world is the record of a man in quest of his daily
bread and butter."

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I did not know until a week ago that there were female SS members in the
Third Reich during World War II, nor did I know that females were put to
death as "war criminals" after the war was over.  One of them was a young
girl named Irma Grese.

The following was submitted by rblackmore@juno.com:

"Irma Grese was only 21 years old when she became a defendant at the
infamous Belsen Trial. Few would have imagined that the young and beautiful
Grese was capable of committing the crimes of which she was accused.

The testimony from the Belsen Trial indicates that Miss Grese was an SS
"Aufseherin", or Overseer, who was assigned duties along with seven other
women to guard over tens of thousands of inmates, most of them Hungarian
Jewesses detained at Auschwitz. Indeed, it was more for her tenure of
service at Auschwitz, rather than Belsen, for which she was charged and
convicted.

In the case of Irma Grese, one should simply reflect on the fact that it is
an herculean task to manage that many inmates. Auschwitz was a detention
center where criminals were freely interspersed among those simply being
held in investigative custody or interned because they posed a security
threat as members of a group hostile to the war effort.

It is only common sense to assume that as a guard among so many prisoners,
Miss Grese, being of rather slight stature, took measures to safeguard her
own safety. Thus, it has been reported that she carried a stick with her
and was often escorted by a dog.

In correctional facilities all over the world, such measures are
commonplace among staff members justifiably concerned with their own
safety. Guards at Auschwitz had every legal right to take measures to
ensure their own safety and to maintain order - as guards of prisoners have
done everywhere since times immemorial.

Grese joined the SS in 1942, against the wishes of her father, and was
stationed for a time at Ravensbrueck, a camp for women. In 1943 she was
transferred to Auschwitz and stationed in Birkenau.

How she actually came to be a member of the SS is unclear.  According to
her testimony, she was sent to work in the camps by the German Labour
Exchange. Obviously the recruiting and acceptance criteria for female
members of the SS was different from that of males, although I have been
unable to uncover any guidelines. At any rate, Grese remained at Auschwitz
until January, 1945, after which time she was sent on to Belsen at her own
request. If she had been sent to any other camp, we most likely would never
have even heard of her.

Grese's duties at Auschwitz varied. Most of her work was rather benign,
such as sorting through parcels and overseeing construction projects.
However, from May until December, 1944, Grese was appointed senior
"Aufseherin" for Compound C which turned out to be the eventual cause of
her undoing.

There, as stated above, she had to oversee tens of thousands of interned
Hungarian Jewesses. The huge influx of detainees created problems which
were addressed with difficulty by the relatively young and inexperienced
Grese.

As head Aufseherin, Grese was also responsible for conducting roll call.
Often prisoners were compelled to stand for hours until the roll call was
verified as correct. This is common procedure at any institution.

Most of the problems centered around the distribution of food. The
overcrowding also led to sanitation problems, which Grese was scarcely
capable of handling. The detainees themselves helped to create many of the
probl