From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Thu Jan 2 11:10:25 PST 1997 Article: 90600 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!hunter.premier.net!feed1.news.erols.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:11:35 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970102: Music to our ears! X-Original-Subject: ZGram - January 2, 1996 - "Music to our ears!" 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These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 2, 1997 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: Well, a new year is here, and I am happy to report that a new wind is blowing. So far, only in gusts- but, boy, does it feel good to fill your lungs with air and watch the cob webs swirl! Remember how I mentioned in a ZGrams just a few weeks ago that Ernst suggested to the Swiss banks they ought to ". . . invest in Revisionism" since doing so would be, by far, the cheaper, smarter route to go than to ". . . succumb to blackmail regarding so-called Nazi loot"? Ernst was the one, in fact, who has called the Holocaust ". . . parasitism elevated to a state of doctrine" for some time. Since 1981, he has openly called it an extortion racket. He has told every Revisionist leader, writer and researcher since at least 1988 that ". . . we must hammer away at this latest tool of the eternal parasite - people who hide behind their self-proclaimed, massively propagandized victimhood, while practicing their Holocaust terrorism, Holocaust blackmail and Holocaust extortion racket . . . " Bernie Farber, head of the Canadian Jewish Congress in his testimony in Ottawa before the SIRC Committee this spring, correctly pointed out that ". . . Zundel goes further than any other Holocaust Denier," making a direct connection from the Holocaust story to Jewish greed and money grubbing by calling it an extortion racket. That's why there are such desperate attempts in Canada to shut Ernst Zundel up. That's how you earn yourself derogatory titles such as "evil magician," "anti-Semite", "hate monger" and, for good measure, "racist". That's why the opposition has to mobilize the media of Canada, spend millions of tax payers' money, and get huge government organizations to act as their hit squads for them. Ernst Zundel of Toronto, Canada - a "crank" whom no one in his right mind, takes seriously? Well. That is not how the cookie crumbles. Day before yesterday, the President of Switzerland drew himself up to his full height on his last day in office, and said, OFFICIALLY, as the first leader in the so-called "free" world - what Ernst Zundel has said all along! None other than Swiss President Jean-Pascal Delamuraz, in a newspaper interview, stated that Jewish demands for a fund to be set up for Jews who MIGHT be entitled to money supposedly stolen by Swiss banks during World War II was "blackmail" and "extortion". "This is nothing less than extortion and blackmail," Delamuraz said, referring to a "temporary fund" suggested as an interim arrangement. "This fund would make it much more difficult to establish the truth. Such a fund would be considered an admission of guilt." The President of Switzerland went even further. He pointed out that criticism of Swiss banks and the country's war role was not only ". . . due to the nature of the revelations but equally to the not very pure intentions which lay at their origin." In this newspaper interview with a reporter from Tribune de Geneve, Delamuraz reiterated the Swiss government's stance that any compensation measures should wait for the findings of a nine-member historical panel named by the Cabinet two weeks ago to investigate the Swiss financial role in World War II. Now when Ernst Zundel speaks, here's how he puts these matters: ". . . We are dealing with Ghetto-gangster elements in pin-striped suits who carry calculators in their violin cases, rather than Thompson machine guns, the way it was done at the St. Valentine's Day Massacre. The take of their terrorism is far more lucrative than if they had used guns. Dead victims don't pay 'reparations'". Live victims, of course, do. They pay through the nose and keep paying. Germans have paid to various "beneficiaries" more than DM 100 billion in the past half century. Now Switzerland is supposed to start paying - along with a whole slew of financially less-endowed countries - such as Poland, for instance, on whom the same elements are kneeling to pay for all the so-called "confiscated" Jewish property. The Poles are in a worse fix - they are worried that if they pay the Jews, then they will also have to pay compensation to the Silesians and the East and West Prussians. Such reparations payments would amount to trillions, not just billions. So this development is pregnant with trouble. And speaking of billions if not trillions: According to the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, October 1996, (p. 44) Americans have supported the state of Israel to the tune of more than $5.5 billion in 1996 alone. Imagine how much it adds up to, directly and indirectly, since 1948! And no end yet in sight! Somewhere I read that the Aryan race is the only race on earth that carries its own parasites on its back wherever it goes and wherever it settles - like some exotic animal species take with them parasitic birds in Africa. Repeat after me, class: "The Holocaust is NOT about this so-called victimhood. It is a clever TOOL for making victims out of fools by playing on their sympathies!" Said Swiss President Delamuraz, who doubles up as economics minister and, hence, has the credentials, that the initial Swiss response to criticism of the Swiss banking system had been "naive" - exactly what Ernst said in one of his newsletters when this matter first came to the fore. Delamuraz: "No one . . . appears to see that apart from dogged research into historical truth there is also a strong political desire to destabilize and compromise Switzerland," he said. "This has one link in Washington and another in London, where it was a matter of nothing else than trying to demolish Switzerland's status as a financial center," Delamuraz is reported to have said to a reporter of this French-language Swiss newspaper. Said Zundel, the Outspoken Swabian: "No wonder that they want to criminalize Holocaust Denial and Holocaust Revisionism. We are the ones who are blowing the whistle on them. The Holocaust Promotion Lobby has a protection racket going that makes the standard Mafia-take mere chicken feed. These folks are criminals. Extortionists. They are hiding behind victimhood while operating on a global scale. Show the first sign of weakness, and the hyenas will move in. "Remember the IKEA flap, where this billion dollar Swedish furniture store chain was accused of having a president who belonged to a Nazi organization at the end of the war? World-wide strikes were threatened by the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and only when the chain's management flew to Los Angeles and promised to establish a store in Israel were the threatened strikes put on hold. "Remember how the Japanese caved in when. in a similar situation, action was threatened against Marco Polo Magazine, a lucrative, highly popular upscale glossy publication? One of my Japanese contacts had been able to place a seven page, top notch Revisionist article. Immediately, the Israeli consulate and the Simon Wiesenthal Center dispatched a delegation to Tokyo and leaned on Volkswagen Japan to withdraw its large ads from the magazine. The Japanese magazine's management, defiant at first, obediently caved in after its huge parent corporation fell all over itself in abjectly apologizing to the Jewish Lobby. "Result? Everybody was fired. The entire magazine disbanded. "These are just two examples of Holocaust terrorism to extort behavior favorable and profitable to current, not past, Jewish interests. We ought to finally get it straight in 1997, now that we can quote a President . . . " Does the common man in the street need "hate laws"? Or does the Holocaust Promotion Lobby need them sorely? You ask yourself that question. You have in Switzerland a country that WILLINGLY criminalized skepticism about the Auschwitz "gas chambers" a mere few years ago, thereby legally painting itself in a corner! The Swiss are in a fix now. They have outlawed Holocaust skepticism and questioning the details of so-called "gassing" stories and other fabrications. Was it done by forces behind the scenes who knew the "Nazi Gold" scheme was coming? With this "hate law" in place, the Swiss disarmed themselves before the struggle for truth in their history even got going! How can the banks play the Revisionist card now? Publish their findings, which will have to be Revisionist information if they are honest findings, and go directly to jail? Well, it is not too late. There still is Jurgen Graf, right there in Switzerland, to name just one Revisionist - and what a powerhouse of pen, that one! It would be a magnificent beginning if tiny Switzerland would lead the way and systematically start using the hard work of people such as Graf and other pioneers who have, as one of our correspondents put it, ". . . thrown careers and reputations to the winds in their pursuit of truth and fairness. . . " and who, this writer then goes on to say while quoting from a dusty book he found in an old box, ". . . gave their breast(s) to the bullets of a mob, for the rights of free speech and opinion." Ingrid Thought for the Day: "1997 = The Year of the Struggle. Give it your all!" (Michael Hoffman II) ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Fri Jan 3 07:42:14 PST 1997 Article: 90697 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.win.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!nic.wat.hookup.net!xenitec!zenox.com!news2.insinc.net!news.solect.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-4.sprintlink.net!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!feed1.news.erols.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 15:33:39 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970101: Looking back - and ahead! X-Original-Subject: ZGram - January 1, 1997 - "Looking back - and ahead!" 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These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 1, 1997 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: With the New Year only a few hours old, it is time to look back - and ahead. It has been a remarkable year. Without a doubt, the Zundelsite is now a global concept. Hundreds of media sources have commented on our work, and in a recent article in the Toronto Star, the Zundelsite was sourly proclaimed as THE one website ". . . most likely to be censored." That's our badge of honor! There are a lot of websites out there that speak much more bluntly than we do. The difference is that we say things responsibly. With impact. Where it hurts. Another writer grudgingly conceded our Revisionist march in a similar vein, adding that " . . . (i)n the U.S., Mr. Zundel is an anonymous crank. In Canada, he's a celebrity." The gent has that one backwards! Here is more of his commentary, as taken from a December 2 Globe and Mail write-up: "Many high profile attempts to regulate speech on the Net are ultimately self-defeating. When German officials tried to block the Ernst Zundel website, which originates in the US, it was picked up and "mirrored" in other places. Quarry outside a country's borders can be elusive. But in cases where national laws accord - kiddie porn is almost universally illegal - prosecution and shut-down could be swifter. Neo-Nazis and other racists are a more challenging case, because the United States does not consider hate speech a crime. Maybe the Americans are onto something. And Canada's favorite neo-Nazi is about to get even more free publicity. The Canadian Human Rights Commission wants its crack at the California-based Zundel web site. Good luck. All these attempts to prosecute Mr. Zundel only make things worse. How many readers would even have heard of the guy if Canadian governments hadn't gone to the trouble of offering him a decade's worth of courtroom soapboxes? New technology, same old mistakes . . . " Now all this pundit needs to do is to convince Sabina - and members of her tribe! It has been hard, hard work - but what a pay-off! What a pay-off! In terms of quantitative data, as of December 31, we have logged a total of 143,811 visitors with858,385 documents accessed. As I have mentioned previously, we did not start tallying from the beginning. Had we done that, and had we not had several technical shutdowns and other interferences through censorship, chances are we would have topped the 1 million document milestone as of last night, December 31. My goal is to make it 6 million - hard-hitting, solid Revisionist documents downloaded planet-wide by December 31, 1997 - a goal which should be reachable if all our friends help spreading the Zundelsite story (the name alone will pull it up through the search engines) to editors, newsgroups etc. Just practice saying it! It will turn into Revisionist gold! Our e-mail now runs as high as 300 letters a day. A slow day has about 100 letters. I can barely keep up, and it is worrisome to me because I have had to start deleting so as not to clog my computer and personally drown in e-mail, and much of what I throw into the trash is probably of documentary value to future generations. I have also learned invaluable lessons about the tactics employed against us. By far, the most frequently employed weapon - and what a shabby one at that! - is personal demonization, character assassination and vilification. Subtract the shrieks, and very little else is left of a substantive nature or content to counter our views. And once you realize that, the battle is more than half-won. The antidote is one I learned a long, long time ago. Back on the farm some cattle taught me well - just don't step into it! Ignore it. It will dry. Fresh air and plenty of exposure to the light of day is going to make it stop smelling! Looking ahead, here's what I wish for most: That more good, honest people came forward, saying simply: "Count me in." It's mostly attitude. Commitment doesn't have to come in big, dramatic ways, nor does it have to be grounded in an ideology that many still find hard to grasp in its entire scope. We aren't ushering the Brownshirts in; we are about correcting history and ushering in Truth in History so that mankind be liberated from half a century of lies! With truthful information, the rest will just slide into place. In one of our documents where we ask for our readers' help, we say the following: "People associated with, and sympathetic to, Ernst Zundel's struggle to rehabilitate the falsely accused and politically victimized German nation are not a political party and not strict followers of any ideology. We don't have or require formal membership. We don't require a racialist, Christian or national-socialist mindset or a specific political orientation. We simply ask that you respect our right to think, say and do what we like, to let us be who we are and what we represent, and to let us have our rightful place in the community of nations. We ask that you assist us systematically if you are so inclined. If you give us your support, we promise that we will enrich your lives in ways you could not ever have imagined. There's nothing as rewarding for the soul as following the "Search for Truth," wherever it may lead. We now live in the "Age of Lies" of which past seers and great thinkers, such as the Pan-Aryan thinker, Savitri Devi, spoke in her trail-blazing treatise, "The Lightning and the Sun." We want to usher in the "Age of Truth" - not with a New World Order, but with a True World Order." And though many of us are of German background, our struggle is no longer national. It is, however, ethnic. We are determined to stop the relentless and vicious abuse directed at Western Civilization in general, no longer just the German nation. That is the reason why now so many members of other nationalities - Americans, Poles, French, Belgian, Spaniards, Brazilians, even Mexicans and Turks - have joined us in our struggle. We promise you that your respect for us will grow. You will get to know us better and understand what we are all about - not people who hate other races but people who dearly love their own. THIS IS A STRUGGLE NOT FOR LAND OR POWER OR POSSESSION BUT FOR THE MIND OF MAN. WILL WE BE SLAVES - OR FREE? That is the bottom line. Yesterday, my friend Anita called me up to wish me a happy New Year. In conversation with Anita, I mentioned the "black struggle." That's when Anita said: "Do me a favor, please. Don't call me black. I'm colored. I'm a Negro. I bitterly resent these PC labels that were forced on me, back in the Sixties when all this mischief hit the colleges. I prefer to use the term my family always used. The same people who have made the Germans out to be barbarians have made us out to be stupid. We know we aren't stupid. You know you're not barbarian. Just like you said - we have a common enemy. I would just like to get into the ring and put myself right next to the Germans, roll up my sleeves and start swinging!" If she, an American Nego, can feel like that, what about you out there - you who have children with blue eyes and blond hair and freckles? You owe them. I have thought long and hard about a summarizing construct to give to you as guidepost for this coming year on which to train yourself, and I have come up, naturally, with Racial Athlete. No one is going to strengthen your muscles for you. It takes self-motivation. Discipline. A willingness to sacrifice. Rigorous, uncompromising training - day after day, and schedule by scheduile. Deep inner knowledge that, no matter what it takes, the outcome makes it worthwhile. Get ready now for 1997. Don't expect anyone to babysit your grievances and tell you what to do. Just follow your instincts; follow your drummer. Do what you feel in your gut to be RIGHT. The rest will take care of itself. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "He is not free who can do what he will, but who can become what he should." (Paul de Lagarde in "Deutsche Schriften") ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Sat Jan 4 09:44:19 PST 1997 Article: 90936 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!swrinde!news.sgi.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:01:30 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970104: Israel and the UN X-Original-Subject: ZGram - January 4, 1997 - "Israel and the UN" Message-ID: Reply-To: ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com X-Plug: Community ConneXion provided privacy on the Net. http://www.c2.net/ X-Decency: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/botting.gary X-Zundel: http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Sender: ezundel@mail.cts.com X-Nota-Bene: alpha is no longer a valid return email address; post replies Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Lines: 283 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:90936 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:3299 The following propaganda is reposted to public forums by an automated script in the interest of public oversight. As a general rule, it is not safe to assume that anything following the BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE delimiter is true. Said material is Copyright 1996 Ingrid Rimland, posted by permission (see ZGram 961208). These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 4, 1997 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: Recently, a "Letter to the Editor" campaign was sent out of the Zundel-Haus. I set its contents aside as one of my "Shocking List" ZGrams - such as the "List of the Annas" and the "support list" for the convicted Jewish-American spy Jonathan Pollard by Jewish synagogues and organizations. Here is what was shipped from the Zundel-Haus: "We have just celebrated International Human Rights Day. It would be helpful if ALL people could enjoy those rights proclaimed so loftily by organizations such as the United Nations - not just the politically privileged few. The General Assembly of the UN has recognized ". . . the fundamental right (of Palestinians) to struggle '. . . by any means at their disposal.'" So let's examine the "Human Rights" record, as documented by the UN, of one state and people who accuse the Germans all the time about their so-called "human rights violations" alleged to have occurred more than 50 years ago. In "Deliberate Deceptions: Facing the Facts About US-Israeli Relationship" (Lawrence Hill Books, 1995) author Paul Findley makes the point that Israel, with the collusion of the power elite on our continent, has been successful over the decades in keeping the United Nations on the sidelines in efforts to find a solution to the Middle East problem and to create real peace: Here is a list of UN Resolutions, 1955-1992: * Resolution 106: ". . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid" * Resolution 111: ". . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people" * Resolution 127: ". . . 'recommends' Israel suspend its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem" * Resolution 162: ". . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions" * Resolution 171: ". . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria" * Resolution 228: ". . . 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control" * Resolution 237: ". . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees" * Resolution 248: ". . . 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan" * Resolution 250: ". . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem" * Resolution 251: ". . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250" * Resolution 252: ". . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital" * Resolution 256: ". . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation"" * Resolution 259: ". . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation" * Resolution 262: ". . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airp= ort" * Resolution 265: ". . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan" * Resolution 267: ". . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem" * Resolution 270: ". . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon" * Resolution 271: ". . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem" * Resolution 279: ". . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces >from Lebanon" * Resolution 280: ". . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebano= n" * Resolution 285: ". . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon" * Resolution 298: ". . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem" * Resolution 313: ". . . 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon" * Resolution 316: ". . . 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon" * Resolution 317: ". . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon" * Resolution 332: ". . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon" * Resolution 337: ". . . 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty" * Resolution 347: ". . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon" * Resolution 425: ". . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces >from Lebanon" * Resolution 427: ". . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon' * Resolution 444: ". . . 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces" * Resolution 446: ". . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the =46ourth Geneva Convention" * Resolution 450: ". . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon= " * Resolution 452: ". . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories" * Resolution 465: ". . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel's settlements program" * Resolution 467: ". . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon" * Resolution 468: ". . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return" * Resolution 469: ". . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians" * Resolution 471: ". . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention" * Resolution 476: ". . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'" * Resolution 478: ". . . 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'" * Resolution 484: ". . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors" * Resolution 487: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility" * Resolution 497: ". . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith" * Resolution 498: ". . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon" * Resolution 501: ". . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops" * Resolution 509: ". . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon" * Resolution 515: ". . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in" * Resolution 517: ". . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon" * Resolution 518: ". . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon" * Resolution 520: ". . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut= " * Resolution 573: ". . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters * Resolution 587: ". . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw" * Resolution 592: ". . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops" * Resolution 605: ". . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians * Resolution 607: ". . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention * Resolution 608: ". . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians" * Resolution 636: ". . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians * Resolution 641: ". . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians * Resolution 672: ". . . 'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount * Resolution 673: ". . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations * Resolution 681: ". . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians * Resolution 694: ". . . 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return * Resolution 726: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians * Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return. (statistics taken from the above-mentioned title, pages 188 - 192) The following are the resolutions vetoed by the United States during the period of September, 1972, to May, 1990 to protect Israel from council criticism: * . . . condemned Israel's attack against Southern against southern Lebanon and Syria. . . " * . . . affirmed the rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, statehood and equal protections. . . " * . . . condemned Israel's air strikes and attacks in southern Lebanon and its murder of innocent civilians. . . " * . . . called for self-determination of Palestinian people. . . " * . . deplored Israel's altering of the status of Jerusalem, which is recognized as an international city by most world nations and the United Nations . . . " * . . . affirmed the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people . . . " * . . . endorsed self-determination for the Palestinian people . . . " * . . . demanded Israel's withdrawal from the Golan Heights . . . " * . . . condemned Israel's mistreatment of Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip and its refusal to abide by the Geneva convention protocols of civilized nations. . . " * . . . condemned an Israeli soldier who shot eleven Moslem worshippers at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount near Al-Aqsa Mosque in the Old City of Jerusalem. . . " * . . . urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw >from its invasion of Lebanon . . . " * . . . urged sanctions against Israel if it did not withdraw from its invasion of Beirut. . . " * . . . urged cutoff of economic aid to Israel if it refused to withdraw from its occupation of Lebanon. . . " * . . . condemned continued Israeli settlements in occupied territories in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, denouncing them as an obstacle to peace. . . " * . . . deplores Israel's brutal massacre of Arabs in Lebanon and urges its withdrawal. . . " * . . . condemned Israeli brutality in southern Lebanon and denounced the Israeli 'Iron Fist' policy of repression. . . " * . . . denounced Israel's violation of human rights in the occupied territories. . . " * . . . deplored Israel's violence in southern Lebanon. . . " * . . . deplored Israel's activities in occupied Arab East Jerusalem that threatened the sanctity of Muslim holy sites. . . " * . . . condemned Israel's hijacking of a Libyan passenger airplane. . . " * . . . deplored Israel's attacks against Lebanon and its measures and practices against the civilian population of Lebanon. . . " * . . . called on Israel to abandon its policies against the Palestinian intifada that violated the rights of occupied Palestinians, to abide by the Fourth Geneva Conventions, and to formalize a leading role for the United Nations in future peace negotiations. . . " * . . . urged Israel to accept back deported Palestinians, condemned Israel's shooting of civilians, called on Israel to uphold the Fourth Geneva Convention, and called for a peace settlement under UN auspices. . . " * . . . condemned Israel's . . incursion into Lebanon. . . " * . . . deplored Israel's . . . commando raids on Lebanon. .= . " * . . . deplored Israel's repression of the Palestinian intifada and called on Israel to respect the human rights of the Palestinians. . . " * . . . deplored Israel's violation of the human rights of the Palestinians. . . " * . . . demanded that Israel return property confiscated from Palestinians during a tax protest and allow a fact-finding mission to observe Israel's crackdown on the Palestinian intifada . . . " * . . . called for a fact-finding mission on abuses against Palestinians in Israeli-occupied lands. . . " (statistics taken from the above-mentioned title, pages 192 - 194) Ernst Z=FCndel Thought for the Day: "The 1996 total . . . in U.S. grants and loan guarantees (to Israel) amounts to $15,083, 013.67 per day, seven days a week, 365 days a year." (The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, October issue, page 44) ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Mon Jan 6 00:49:09 PST 1997 Article: 91283 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.win.hookup.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!thor.atcon.com!eru.mt.luth.se!www.nntp.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!EU.net!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 10:29:09 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970105: Housekeeping Time X-Original-Subject: ZGram - January 5, 1997 "Housekeeping Time" Message-ID: Reply-To: ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com X-Plug: Community ConneXion provided privacy on the Net. http://www.c2.net/ X-Decency: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/botting.gary X-Zundel: http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Sender: ezundel@mail.cts.com X-Nota-Bene: alpha is no longer a valid return email address; post replies Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Lines: 104 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:91283 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:3306 The following propaganda is reposted to public forums by an automated script in the interest of public oversight. As a general rule, it is not safe to assume that anything following the BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE delimiter is true. Said material is Copyright 1996 Ingrid Rimland, posted by permission (see ZGram 961208). These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 5, 1997 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: Today will be short and prosaic. I need your help in several ways: * I still need translators for our 8-point "Holocaust Hoax 101" document. I have started an International Page and have already placed English, Swedish, Portuguese and German. Japanese and Romanian documents have been translated as well but have not yet been placed. The rest are still to come. Visit the Zundelsite at http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/00.html and let me know if you can help with translations. The original document from which you would translate is the very first - the English one. * I have had many requests for translation of my ZGrams into German. This should be someone who is retired and has lots of time on his or her hands. It's practically a full-time job, believe me! * I need someone in the United States who can occasionally type and copy-edit in German and e-mail documents to me. (It is too expensive to fax originals to other countries) * A fellow Revisionist has offered to pay a talented cartoonist for her services. The Zundelsite is not an option for cartoons, since Ernst has zero tolerance for what he calls frivolity, but many people believe in "stripped down messages" as one of several effective tools to be used on behalf of our cause. Is there a website owner interested in hosting that project? There are hilarious cartoons already published, especially in France, that show that the pomposity of the conventional Holocaust version is being attacked by mainstream media cartoonists - such as the Abbe Pierre cartoons that gave "left-handed" compliments to Dr. Faurisson and other Revisionist pioneers in France. I believe cartoons are legitimate evidence of Revisionist inroads into the consciousness of people in the mainstream. If Revisionist cartoons fit into your website profile, let me know, and I will pass it on. Also, a little housekeeping item: * If your name drops from my list and you don't want it to be dropped, LET ME KNOW. If my ZGrams don't arrive several days in a row, LET ME KNOW. (We still have lots of e-mail-bomb mischief and other sabotage) But ZGrams are being shipped every day, even when I am traveling. For various technical and time-constraint reasons, sometimes they go out late in the afternoon or even evening, but I have NEVER missed a day yet - nor will I, if it can be helped. Finally, there are a couple of website updates: * There is an Arthur Butz/Epstein update at: www.k9ape.com/c96/candor01.html This story has got to be savored! * There is a new Revisionist research service available at the Fenix site called Belling Books. I have used it in the past and have found it both prompt and reliable. For those of you into research, set some time aside to get a feel for all the books and documents out there you haven't yet had a chance to read. www.smartnet.net/~fbooks Have a productive and committed 1997! Ingrid Thought for the Day: "One cannot kill a spiritual master and just think, '. . . that's that!'" (Jan van Helsing in "Secret Societies and their Power in the 20th Century") ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Tue Jan 7 08:37:04 PST 1997 Article: 91580 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!uunet!in1.uu.net!205.252.116.190!feed1.news.erols.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:54:47 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970106: To hide or not to hide X-Original-Subject: ZGram - January 6, 1997 - "To hide or not to hide" Message-ID: Reply-To: ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com X-Plug: Community ConneXion provided privacy on the Net. http://www.c2.net/ X-Decency: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/botting.gary X-Zundel: http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Sender: ezundel@mail.cts.com X-Nota-Bene: alpha is no longer a valid return email address; post replies Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Lines: 147 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:91580 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:3310 The following propaganda is reposted to public forums by an automated script in the interest of public oversight. As a general rule, it is not safe to assume that anything following the BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE delimiter is true. Said material is Copyright 1996 Ingrid Rimland, posted by permission (see ZGram 961208). These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 6, 1997 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: Here is a topic that has been bothering me for quite some time to which I do not have an answer. It is the topic of our personal security. Ernst is constantly onto my case because he worries for my safety - he feels I am too free and careless with revealing personal aspects of my life. I remember quite some time ago a conversation on this topic where Ernst said that he did not wish to ". . . give the enemy the power to alter too much of your personality, but . . . " and then gave several very good reasons why I should be more circumspect. I am not a secretive person, and it causes me profound discomfort to disguise who I am, what I do, and where I might or might not be. I also feel there is a principle involved because we should stand straight for what we say and do. Furthermore, I don't think that this struggle will be as efficient as it should if it is underground. The more people stand up to be counted, the stronger we will be. But, lately, I have received several threatening calls as well as ugly e-mail, and I know that others in the forefront of this battle have experienced much the same - and so I want to throw a few reader responses out for feedback. How do YOU handle this? What are your personal strategies? Here's one: "In today's Zgram you mentioned that you can no longer notify recipients of your Zgram of your planned vacations in advance, due to safety reasons. Because you have brought the subject up, I am going to now say what I have thought about your and Mr. Zundel's situation for a while. I agree that the use of aliases is excessive, and almost cowardly. I am in the process of discontinuing my own. But! I will hold fast to my position that there is nothing cowardly about covering one's loose ends. I am referring to published physical addresses, published phone numbers, the not destroying of one's documentary waste, and the letting out of too much information about one's personal life routine. Because of what we know, and because of the abilities we have been given by chaotic chance, or the ultimate Will of the Cosmos, it is our responsibility to participate in the historical process. It is our responsibility to do our best to realize this most important goal, regardless of selfish desire. Therefore, we no longer belong only to ourselves anymore! We are agents of the Will, and to risk our own few-and-far-between selves is to risk the property of that Will! A while ago, I read a writing of Mr. Zundel's which was contained in one of your Zgrams. In it, he told of his fruitless attempt to locate the NIZKOR office. You know the story. He later went on to exclaim his lack of respect for those who "hide" behind a mail drop! I respect him greatly. He is my blood elder who answered the same call I have. But, for his and your own sake, I don't mind lending my young, inexperienced opinion. His home was practically burned to the ground. That setback speaks for itself." A second wrote: "I use a pseudonym as part of my effort against the oppressors - I am not 'hiding'! I'm pretty certain that those who 'need to know' are aware of my identity, but let (the enemy's) foot soldiers stew in their own juice. When an a/c is found out I change the 'nym and let the idiots go through the tracing business again ;-). Of course I realise your comment was a general view on pseudonyms, not to me in particular, but I thought I'd let you know that they can be of value. There are many ways of struggle, I happen to favour 'nym systems and PGP for irritating the enemy." A third had this to say: "In this Cold War between patriots and (our opposition), many methods of struggle may be implemented. For public announcements and megafone personal opinion, standing up and 'saying out loud what we know in our hearts to be true' is fair enough. However for internal matters/tentative personal views, encryption offers body armour for the patriot who doesn't want his nosy antagonists from knowing his views/intentions of the moment. The enemy doesn't (by nature) like being excluded from our lives, and therefore encryption itself is a form of weapon: they don't like not knowing what (if anything) is being said. They think they have the Yahweh-given right to stick their noses into everything the Goyim do. The tyrant has to be disabused of the notion that it has the automatic right to sneak on people, and if we can't alter the fact of their power to intercept law-abiding citizens messages - we can STOP these arrogant bastards from reading it. THIS IS A FORM OF FIGHTING BACK, not hiding." Well said! In the future, I shall be more careful! Ingrid Thought for the Day: "A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular." (Adlai Stevenson) ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Tue Jan 7 13:08:42 PST 1997 Article: 91646 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!hunter.premier.net!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.pbi.net!news.infonex.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:03:06 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970107: American Wars, Part I X-Original-Subject: ZGRam - January 7, 1997 - "American Wars, Part I" Message-ID: Reply-To: ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com X-Plug: Community ConneXion provided privacy on the Net. http://www.c2.net/ X-Decency: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/botting.gary X-Zundel: http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Sender: ezundel@mail.cts.com (Unverified) X-Nota-Bene: alpha is no longer a valid return email address; post replies Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Lines: 125 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:91646 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:3312 The following propaganda is reposted to public forums by an automated script in the interest of public oversight. As a general rule, it is not safe to assume that anything following the BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE delimiter is true. Said material is Copyright 1996 Ingrid Rimland, posted by permission (see ZGram 961208). These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 7, 1997 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: The text below was part of a book review of Buechner's, "The Avengers," and it speaks to a topic dear to Ernst's heart and fervently hoped for - the awakening of the American conscience. It was submitted by one of the most widely read dissident writers, J.B. Campbell, author of "The American Man". Here is Part One. Part Two will come tomorrow: "The nature of the American government has become clear to those who have studied its conduct during and after its wars. The reasons for Sherman's sadistic campaign in Georgia and the Carolinas, authorized by Grant and Lincoln, which began this country's descent into a perpetual state of total war, were revealed during the twelve years of Reconstruction, during which everything of value was stolen from the surviving Southerners, who were reduced to destitution. The reason for our seemingly inexplicable participation in World War I was revealed in the terms and execution of the Versailles Treaty, under which everything of value was stolen from the surviving Germans, who were reduced to starvation levels of existence. The reason for our participation in World War II was revealed by the fact that we bombed millions of German civilians to death and slaughtered more millions of them after the war than during the war. In addition, there has never been a peace treaty with Germany in all these years. It is clear that the objective of our government is the liquidation or subjugation of the best of the White race. Our young people participate in periodic orgies of death and destruction, the gruesome details of which are suppressed by journalists in league with the government. Without exception, the Washington government is always the aggressor. It is always the warlords behind our government who cause the wars to happen, who prolong the killing beyond comprehension and who profit >from the spending of our taxes on the most terrible weapons of mass murder. 600,000 (killed) in Lincoln's War. Ten million in Wilson's War. Forty-five to sixty million in Roosevelt's War. The ones who fought and died in (these) wars were better genetic material than the ones who were kept out for physical reasons, which seems to have been the whole point. Observe England, which had 450,000 casualties just in the Battle of the Somme! You can't kill and maim the best of our young men in these horrible numbers and expect life to go on as usual. Of course, the warlords didn't expect that it would. There is something flawed in the American mentality which permits our young men--and now our young women!--, decade after decade, to drop megatons of high explosives on other people who have not threatened us in the slightest. This must include the Japanese, who were in December, 1941 our number one trading partner and who had, after the Battle of Midway in April, 1942, as I quoted the US Strategic Bombing Survey in my 1989 book, The New American Man, tried in vain to surrender to us right up until we dropped two atom bombs on them. Even the Pearl Harbor "sneak attack" was a natural (and expected) response to Roosevelt's deliberate diplomatic and economic provocations and military adventures such as his illegal Flying Tigers in China and his illegal naval operations in the Pacific. We are so provincial and self-important that we simply cannot imagine how other people see things. Such an idea never even occurs to us. It is one of the reasons we are hated so around the world." Much more could be said, and will be said, in 1997 about that topic. Meanwhile, consider this, taken from Houston Steward Chamberlain's "Political Ideals", which shall be your Thought for the Day: "Ideas work with natural necessity and with elemental power as soon as they have found their way really into the head and heart of millions: and so the field-cry 'freedom' produced the guillotine, the field-cry 'equality' proscription, the field-cry 'brotherhood'. . . the entire devastation of the Palatinate, where indeed not only castles and religious institutions, but especially all the property and possessions of the farmers were obliterated to the last stock; and where the 'comrade in command' of those who implored him that the world betterer should however at least spare their poor, cried out: 'Everything belongs to us! We leave you only your eyes to cry with!'" Ingrid ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 8 16:19:12 PST 1997 Article: 91808 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:56:02 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970108: American Wars, Part II X-Original-Subject: ZGRam - January 8, 1997 - "American Wars, Part II" Message-ID: Reply-To: ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com X-Plug: Community ConneXion provided privacy on the Net. http://www.c2.net/ X-Decency: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/botting.gary X-Zundel: http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Sender: ezundel@mail.cts.com (Unverified) X-Nota-Bene: alpha is no longer a valid return email address; post replies Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Lines: 139 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:91808 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:3314 The following propaganda is reposted to public forums by an automated script in the interest of public oversight. As a general rule, it is not safe to assume that anything following the BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE delimiter is true. Said material is Copyright 1996 Ingrid Rimland, posted by permission (see ZGram 961208). These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 8, 1997 Good Morning from the Zundelsite This is Part II of an analysis by J. B. Campbell, based on a book review of Buechner's "The Avengers." Where I substituted words, I put those words in brackets: "Enough of us have this deadly combination of ignorance, arrogance, cowardice and cruelty which leads us inevitably to atrocities, from Atlanta to Dresden to Hiroshima to My Lai to Panama City to Baghdad to Waco to Oklahoma City. This is not to say that we are all ignorant, or arrogant, or cowardly, or cruel. But the ones who always do the dirty work against our latest enemy are found on our military bases. By their very youthful nature they are ignorant. They often become quite arrogant when given power over others. They are not brave enough to say "no" when ordered to attack civilian targets or slaughter unarmed prisoners of war. Their natural cruelty is easily exploited by psycho-specialists who can quickly condition them to hate and kill strangers en masse with simple propaganda and big lies. And then there are our non-aggression pacts and actual military partnership with the Soviet Union. This last item is something from which America will never recover. Our little military arrangement with Israel is an obscenity but our partnership with the Soviets was so horrific that it may never become possible for future Americans to come to terms with it. Our military partnership with the Soviet Communists from 1942 to 1945 was the watershed event in human history. It was during this four-year period that the New World Order, as we know and fear it, became established. Following our mutual destruction of Germany and most of Europe, we encouraged our partners to subject hundreds of millions of people, from East Germany to China, to the gory delights of insatiable fiends known as commissars. Millions were slaughtered or sent to slave labor camps and psychiatric prisons. The rest have lived in abject terror of sharing the victims' fates. Our government made this happen. For example, our government in 1945 ordered our wonderful boys in Austria and Italy to round up millions of anti-communist Russians and East Europeans at gunpoint, process them and force them at bayonet point into box cars to be shipped to Stalin for execution in what the army called "Operation Keelhaul." The Soviets couldn't have gotten their hands on these people without our help. Our government pretended to be shocked at Soviet "excesses" while it continued to support its partner with military and financial aid, all conducted profitably through the warlords' New York banks, to the present day. This included the forty-five year period of the phoney "Cold War." The fact that both the Capitalist and Communist systems are controlled is known or suspected by many of our people. Many of those who know feel that it would be impolite to mention this fact. They have been conditioned to feel this way. It is incumbent on those of us who know this fact to re-condition them to speak freely. It is incumbent on all of us to make (the perpetrators) feel uncomfortable in our knowledge of their activities. The high death rate in Germany toward the end of the war was the result of our wonderful boys in their fighter planes flying around at will, blasting things on the ground to smithereens. Anything that moved was destroyed. Chuck Yeager brags that he strafed farmers on their tractors. Trains were favorite targets--they loved to hit the steam engines and watch them explode. Trucks carrying food--well, forget them! All of Germany was starving and those in the camps starved right along with them. Those who cannot quite comprehend this sort of thing today must only look back to 1991 when our wonderful boys completely destroyed life as it was known in Baghdad and other Iraqi cities and towns. (Special interests) had demanded that Iraq be destroyed by us and within a few short months it was so." And is it over yet? Here is what is still happening, according to the latest issue (Jan/Feb.'97) of the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs: "Commendable U.S. government and media concern for relieving famine in Zaire and Rwanda stand in sharp contrast to the continuing major famine which the United States has caused in Iran. "What the Iraqi people have been suffering is a continuing hell on earth the dimensions of which are staggering. Carol Bellamy, who heads the United Nations Relief Fund, estimates that in Iraq 'approximately 4.500 children under the age of five die every month from hunger and disease.' . . . "Add to that those who died during the 100-hour ground war, when a bomb a minute was dropped. . . . "Today, almost six years after the end of the Gulf War, as many as 100,000 Iraqis may still be dying every year for lack of food and medicine." (p. 17) Thought for the Day: "Why should martial law not be proclaimed continuously against baseness and profiteering?" (Houston Stewart Chamberlain in "Political Ideals") ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Sat Jan 11 19:25:38 PST 1997 Article: 92360 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.InterGate.BC.CA!n1van.istar!van.istar!west.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!tor.istar!east.istar!uunet!in1.uu.net!206.229.87.25!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-ana-7.sprintlink.net!re.hotwired.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 00:01:08 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970111: Revisionist Defectors X-Original-Subject: ZGRam - January 11, 1997 - "Revisionist Defectors" Message-ID: Reply-To: ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com X-Plug: Community ConneXion provided privacy on the Net. http://www.c2.net/ X-Decency: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/botting.gary X-Zundel: http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Sender: ezundel@mail.cts.com (Unverified) X-Nota-Bene: alpha is no longer a valid return email address; post replies Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Lines: 114 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:92360 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:3321 The following propaganda is reposted to public forums by an automated script in the interest of public oversight. As a general rule, it is not safe to assume that anything following the BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE delimiter is true. Said material is Copyright 1996 Ingrid Rimland, posted by permission (see ZGram 961208). These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 11, 1997 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: I have often thought that one of the markers of proving that our mission is correct is that intellectual fatalities are practically non-existent. Once you become convinced of the scientific evidence and subsequent inherent logic of the Revisionist argument, there is no going back. Not all of us choose to act on Revisionist content and draw the necessary consequences, but it is hard to lie to yourself when you, quite simply, know better. In fact, when I first started thinking about strictly Revisionist defectors, I could come up with only two: Jean Claude Pressac and a woman named Cecelia who speaks German with a Yiddish accent. (Ernst told me since that he knows of a third, Charles Provan of Cleveland. Not bad for twenty years of inroads into the greatest hoax in history!) So for a week or two I thought that there were three. Since then, I have received word from a fellow Revisionist that we are back to two: "Your labelling of Pressac once having been a Revisionist is not correct. In fact he never became a guy who was looking for the truth. He got into contact with Dr. Faurisson because he was looking for material for his planned novel "If Hitler Would Have Won The War". Dr. Faurisson gave him tasks to do for getting knowledge about the topic he was interested in, but Dr. Faurisson recognized quickly that Pressac wasn't able to do any concentrated, systematic, scientific work. When Pressac realized Dr. Faurisson's willingness to find and tell only the truth and nothing but the truth and that it would be better ( for Pressac's purposes ) to be satisfied with bits and pieces of the truth, Dr. Faurisson refused to have further contact with him. That's the story as it was told to me by Dr. Faurisson in December 1991, as far as I remember. Pressac phoned me at the Max-Planck-Institute in early spring 1993 after I wrote him two letters without getting any reply. He told me that my behaviour as a Revisionist researcher was extremely dangerous for me, that I should be very cautious, and that it would be better for me not to tell the whole truth. I told him that I didn't want to talk with him on the phone but that I was waiting for a reply to my letters. He refused to write me because it would be dangerous for him to answer my questions, he explained. You can think what you want about this. For me it was the proof that Pressac is still what he was, when he first met Dr. Faurisson: He is absolutely convinced that the Revisionists are right, but he is full of fear saying it. His tactics are "salami tactics" as one can see by reading his books. In each issue he comes a bit closer to the whole (revisionist) truth. But now the Jews have recognised his tactics and refuse to continue their support. They noticed that Pressac was cheating. Now, Pressac is unmasked as what he is: A lying semi-revisionist mole." Any more semi-Revisionist moles out there who can be spotted by their salami tactics? Ingrid Thought for the Day: "The history of the world is the record of a man in quest of his daily bread and butter." (Hendrick Willem van Loon) ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Sun Jan 12 06:34:36 PST 1997 Article: 92420 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!clicnet!news.clic.net!wesley.videotron.net!news-dc.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news-penn.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news1.rad.net.id!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-11.sprintlink.net!metro.atlanta.com!news.he.net!news.enteract.com!insync!feed1.news.erols.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!hammer.uoregon.edu!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:55:48 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970110: Irma Grese X-Original-Subject: ZGram - January 10, 1997 - "Irma Grese" Message-ID: Reply-To: ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com X-Plug: Community ConneXion provided privacy on the Net. http://www.c2.net/ X-Decency: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/botting.gary X-Zundel: http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Sender: ezundel@mail.cts.com (Unverified) X-Nota-Bene: alpha is no longer a valid return email address; post replies Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Lines: 199 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:92420 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:3322 The following propaganda is reposted to public forums by an automated script in the interest of public oversight. As a general rule, it is not safe to assume that anything following the BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE delimiter is true. Said material is Copyright 1996 Ingrid Rimland, posted by permission (see ZGram 961208). These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 10, 1997 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: I did not know until a week ago that there were female SS members in the Third Reich during World War II, nor did I know that females were put to death as "war criminals" after the war was over. One of them was a young girl named Irma Grese. The following was submitted by rblackmore@juno.com: "Irma Grese was only 21 years old when she became a defendant at the infamous Belsen Trial. Few would have imagined that the young and beautiful Grese was capable of committing the crimes of which she was accused. The testimony from the Belsen Trial indicates that Miss Grese was an SS "Aufseherin", or Overseer, who was assigned duties along with seven other women to guard over tens of thousands of inmates, most of them Hungarian Jewesses detained at Auschwitz. Indeed, it was more for her tenure of service at Auschwitz, rather than Belsen, for which she was charged and convicted. In the case of Irma Grese, one should simply reflect on the fact that it is an herculean task to manage that many inmates. Auschwitz was a detention center where criminals were freely interspersed among those simply being held in investigative custody or interned because they posed a security threat as members of a group hostile to the war effort. It is only common sense to assume that as a guard among so many prisoners, Miss Grese, being of rather slight stature, took measures to safeguard her own safety. Thus, it has been reported that she carried a stick with her and was often escorted by a dog. In correctional facilities all over the world, such measures are commonplace among staff members justifiably concerned with their own safety. Guards at Auschwitz had every legal right to take measures to ensure their own safety and to maintain order - as guards of prisoners have done everywhere since times immemorial. Grese joined the SS in 1942, against the wishes of her father, and was stationed for a time at Ravensbrueck, a camp for women. In 1943 she was transferred to Auschwitz and stationed in Birkenau. How she actually came to be a member of the SS is unclear. According to her testimony, she was sent to work in the camps by the German Labour Exchange. Obviously the recruiting and acceptance criteria for female members of the SS was different from that of males, although I have been unable to uncover any guidelines. At any rate, Grese remained at Auschwitz until January, 1945, after which time she was sent on to Belsen at her own request. If she had been sent to any other camp, we most likely would never have even heard of her. Grese's duties at Auschwitz varied. Most of her work was rather benign, such as sorting through parcels and overseeing construction projects. However, from May until December, 1944, Grese was appointed senior "Aufseherin" for Compound C which turned out to be the eventual cause of her undoing. There, as stated above, she had to oversee tens of thousands of interned Hungarian Jewesses. The huge influx of detainees created problems which were addressed with difficulty by the relatively young and inexperienced Grese. As head Aufseherin, Grese was also responsible for conducting roll call. Often prisoners were compelled to stand for hours until the roll call was verified as correct. This is common procedure at any institution. Most of the problems centered around the distribution of food. The overcrowding also led to sanitation problems, which Grese was scarcely capable of handling. The detainees themselves helped to create many of the problem situations, as at Belsen, where they urinated and defecated whenever and wherever the urge struck them. They also filled the latrines and compound with trash and filth, so much so that the latrines eventually ceased to function. This would explain the pervasive stench around Auschwitz and another reason why it was referred to as Anus Mundi. Grese was accused of beating prisoners herself or ordering them to be beaten. Grese herself admitted that she sometimes struck prisoners with a cellophane whip and gave orders that anyone caught stealing from the kitchens was to be beaten. While this seems harsh, one should bear in mind that the prisoners who stole food from the kitchens were actually stealing the food right out of the mouths of fellow prisoners at a time when food was very scarce for everybody. Grese was accused of administering vicious beatings. (T)he accusations were never proven. At Belsen, she was too horrified at the condition of the sick inmates to even approach them. Grese's comments about the alleged gas chambers at Auschwitz are most interesting. She never saw a gas chamber, but remarked that she heard about them from prisoners. Other SS staff also seemed to know nothing about them save what the prisoners rumored. There is no doubt that Miss Grese struck prisoners, but there is also no doubt that the prisoners deliberately exaggerated their alleged mistreatment. Much ado was made over the accusation that Grese was always accompanied by a fierce dog, which she set upon the prisoners for amusement. Grese denied ever having had a dog. In fact, the matter could have been cleared up by asking the other "Aufseherin" who worked with her, but neither the prosecution nor the defense ever pursued this line of questioning as they should have. Though the prosecutor tried his best, (h)e was unable to connect her to any alleged gassings, as well as any individual cases of murder. The curious thing about the accusations is that the victims were all anonymous. Not one alleged victim of murder was ever mentioned by name by any of the accusers. Summing up, it is clear that Irma Grese did not deserve the death penalty, as the prosecution failed to live up to the burden of proof which would be required in any impartial court today. Clearly Miss Grese was guilty of striking prisoners on occasion, but this was usually for some offense or infraction of one sort or another - which the prisoners knew carried the penalty of corporal punishment such as caning, still practiced in Singapore and custom in Canada until the 1960s, where prisoners were given lashes with leather belts. As usual, the professional witnesses and survivors failed to get their stories straight and their testimony differed considerably from their written affidavits. It was hardly necessary for an Allied court to try Miss Grese on charges of mistreating prisoners in a detention camp, which was legally instituted by the legitimate government of Germany. Such offenses as beating prisoners were, in fact, effectively handled by the German authorities themselves and punished if unjustified. However, the Allied conquerors found it necessary that examples of "Nazi brutality" be made in 1945-46. Thus, Miss Grese was convicted and sentenced to death. Neither her youth nor the truth saved her life from being terminated by some hypocritical representative of the British Empire faithfully fulfilling the orders and expectations of his own victorious government whose hands were hardly clean. Under the guise of legality, Irma Grese was lynched. In his memoirs, the English hangman Albert Pierrepoint described Irma Grese's last hours on earth with an admiration for her beauty, her courage, and her dignity he could barely conceal. He referred to her as a "bonnie lassie" and said she spent the night before her execution singing "Nazi songs" with her fellow inmates. She was hanged the next morning along with two other German women, nurses Elisabeth Volkenrath and Juana Bormann. Irma Grese was led to the gallows first, and Pierrepoint wrote that as he slipped the noose around her neck and pulled the hood down over her face she gave him an "enigmatic smile" which haunted him for the rest of his life. "She was the bravest prisoner, man or woman, whom I ever hanged," he concluded. (Comments to: rblackmore@juno.com) Thought for the Day: "The measure of man is what he does with power." (Pittacus, 650 - 569 B.C.) ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Mon Jan 13 07:14:22 PST 1997 Article: 92571 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!clicnet!news.clic.net!wesley.videotron.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!iol!news-out.internetmci.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news-out.internetmci.com!panix!feed1.news.erols.com!super.zippo.com!zdc!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:32:08 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970109: PC Prayer Chants X-Original-Subject: ZGRam - January 9, 1997 - "PC Prayer Chants" Message-ID: Reply-To: ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com X-Plug: Community ConneXion provided privacy on the Net. http://www.c2.net/ X-Decency: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/botting.gary X-Zundel: http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Sender: ezundel@mail.cts.com (Unverified) X-Nota-Bene: alpha is no longer a valid return email address; post replies Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Lines: 209 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:92571 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:3325 The following propaganda is reposted to public forums by an automated script in the interest of public oversight. As a general rule, it is not safe to assume that anything following the BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE delimiter is true. Said material is Copyright 1996 Ingrid Rimland, posted by permission (see ZGram 961208). These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 9, 1997 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: One of the stories out of my mother's store house of memories has haunted me throughout my life. She told me that at the height of the Stalinist purges, the children of "kulak" parents, who had been either executed or sent to Siberia, where put into huge orphanages where, every morning, a political prayer-chant went as follows: "We thank thee, Comrade Stalin, for a happy childhood." It seems that, in Germany, not only children but adults now practice their prayer-chants likewise. The following "thank you's" were submitted to the Zundelsite around the New Year which I have edited down just a bit to take the frazzle out. Here's what one German offered in his prayer-chant: At the close of 1996 we would like to send a big THANKS to the following people: * We thank our Government Leaders, who are destroying Central Europe and the German (people) using the Kaufmann Plan after more than 50 years of waiting. * We thank our Government Leaders for always finding new ways to plug tax loopholes and raise our taxes, so that we will not become fat, lazy or complacent. * We thank you, our Leaders, for Reparations Payments of over 100 Billion DM for the Crimes of the Holocaust. * We thank you, our Leaders, for the Maastricht-Euro Dollar, for using NATO, the UN, as well as Military and Development Aid to the whole world, so that we can never be strong ourselves. * We thank our Politicians for the never-ending drone about Human Rights, so that War Refugees and Asylum Seekers can come here and live off of us, instead of fighting their wars themselves. * We thank you for attempt(s) to destroy the beloved, strong D(eutsche)-Mark and for fighting all attempts to prevent the D-Mark from becoming worthless paper. * We thank our Politicians, the Thought Police in the Press, Radio and TV stations of the land, for using all the resources of the State, and especially the reason: Protection of the State - actions which cannot even remotely be compared to the Stasi - and of course we thank all of the lawyers and political justice ministers, for using these Draconian methods so that we have the privilege of living in the "freeest democracy ever". * We thank the Government of Helmut Kohl, who, through his wisdom alone, protects our young people from the terrible influence of the past, by using censorship to control the Internet. * We thank you for using your own interpretations of history, for changing German history, so that every single German and Austrian may have the privilege of being called a murderer, cheat and criminal. * We thank you, our leaders, for fully implementing all the plans of the Allies, so that our criminal elements as well as world peace incentives can be used to justify the importation of millions of foreigners to help us better ourselves. * We rejoice in the fact that some politicians, through their tremondous services, have succeeded in their plan to destroy the German people by rewarding the achievements of B'nai Brith, whose activities would otherwise be considered as spreading Anti-German sentiment. * We thank you, our Leaders, for your helpful changes to the laws of the land so that the growth of the population can be reduced. Of course, we must also thank you for your Multi-Cultural, Multi-Criminal (influx), so that the people can - as you put it - have protection for their pensions through a broader tax base. * We especially thank you for your thoughtfully aranged "Family Planning", so that Germany has the lowest birth rate of all Nations and furthermore, so that the plan of the Allies - the final destruction of the German (people) - is only years away. * We would like to thank all "socially relevant and advanced liberal forces" for (fighting) Revisionist History and for trying to destroy with every possible means, the TRUTH, the basis of which would endanger the Master Plan (NWO). Thank you using harsh sentences and forbidding us from expressing our opinions in this "democratic" society. * We thank our President that, in his speech about Dresden, he was able to make the Germans responsible for the destruction of this city. * And a special thanks to (German) Prosecutor Klestil, whose judgment was able to label all (German) soldiers in WWII as murderers. * We thank him and others like him who, through clever means, have reduced the casualities from the Holocaust, without endangering the uniqness of this event or without harming the image of German crimes or German guilt. * We thank you, our Leaders, for your unlimited courage in regards to the German-Czech tragedy, whereby the figure of the Czech losses was increased by adding a few zeros, and likewise by reducing the German casualities- so the that figures match official statistics. We likewise thank our leaders for simply shoving under the carpet the 50,000 civilian victims - mostly woman and children - caused during the Brunner Death March (of Sudeten-Germans after the war). * We thank our Interior Minister - Kanther - for his unparalled courage in forbidding 14 year old boys and girls from forming groups that might harm the State. We thank Mr. Kanther for showing these "Viking" youths the true meaning of democracy, peace and justice. We futhermore expect, through Mr. Kanther's genius and courage, that he will soon outlaw other groups like German Dance Companies, simple German Youth Groups and other gatherings. * We thank him and all those responsible, that you have countered these 14 year olds with new laws that allow foreign criminals, Mafia and drug dealers to continue their activities, with the reproach that hatred against foreigners and the good German image might be harmed by hindering these activities. * We thank all "defenders of democracy" for their contribution to the democratic system, by monitoring the telephone lines of 80, 90 and 100 year olds, by searching their homes, by searching through bookshelves and (cabinets), and by the especially hard-nosed line taken in the name of justice, so that their (politically incorrect) opinion can be brought to justice - if necessary in a wheelchair. * We thank all "defenders of science" in the Government, who through sheer courage have succeded in convincing us - through scientific methods - that the earth is flat again, the moon is made of green cheese and is carried around by a big green turtle. * We especially thank all "defenders of Human Rights", that our right to Freedom of Expression has not (yet) allowed the burning of dissidents and books (like the witch hunts of yore), but instead uses "democratic principles" to arrest dissidents, publically identify them and destroy the printing plates (of their books after confiscation of said books). * We thank everyone who is "part of the social fabric" in the German Democratic Republic and in Austria, that never a kind word (is) spoken about the German people, because to do so would naturally heal old wounds. * We thank also all Politicians, like Helmut Kohl, whose wisdom and forsight have identified the bad German GENE and for listening to intelligent, thoughtful people like Simon Weisenthal, who suggest that this GENE is best destroyed by killing German embryos while they are still in the womb, in order to create a better Germany. * We thank all those Politicians and their tireless helpers for putting Holocaust Memorials in all empty and unused places, so that Holocaust believers can have their free thoughts firmly cemented in this new religion. * Last but not least, we thank the World for the Freedom brought to us in 1945, today our "best friends" - who freed us from our old culture, values and traditions, to give us a new identity: The absolute organized Chaos of Kiddyporn, Drugs, Murders and Robberies. * We give our warmest, heartfelt thanks to our Friends (who thoughtfully did not invite us the 50th anniversary celebrations of the end of WWII), the Americans, the British, the French and the Russians, whose actions laid the groundwork for the New World Order, as well as the destruction of the Palestinian people and the requirement for Atom Bombs in the Middle East. We thank you for your part in helping to destroy (first) the Germans and now our whole race. Without your help, none of this would (have been) possible!" Thought for the Day: "There simply aren't enough white children on earth for all the coloured ones to sit beside." (Robert Whitaker) ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Tue Jan 14 12:54:54 PST 1997 Article: 92879 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:06:18 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970113: Wagons Around The Fire X-Original-Subject: ZGram - January 13, 1997 - "Wagons Around The Fire" Message-ID: Reply-To: ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com X-Plug: Community ConneXion provided privacy on the Net. http://www.c2.net/ X-Decency: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/botting.gary X-Zundel: http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Sender: ezundel@mail.cts.com X-Nota-Bene: alpha is no longer a valid return email address; post replies Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Lines: 193 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:92879 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:3326 The following propaganda is reposted to public forums by an automated script in the interest of public oversight. As a general rule, it is not safe to assume that anything following the BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE delimiter is true. Said material is Copyright 1996 Ingrid Rimland, posted by permission (see ZGram 961208). These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 13, 1997 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: A quick summary of items of interest: * Something interesting has happened in Germany. The prosecutor at the court of Berlin has indicted one Angela Marquardt, vice president of the socialist party PDS, for providing a hypertext LINK to certain issues of a banned publication. What this means is that Germany has stationed itself as a police force on a certain segment of the cyber highway itself. As I understand this, to "criminalize" a link is different from "criminalizing" an electronic publication per se. It's political impairment of a global navigational device. It's stepping up the censorship. * Dr. Arthur Butz of Northwestern University is still very much in the news. According to Art, it's a tempest in a tea pot; according to others, it's anything but that. The Washington Post, the Chronicle of Higher Education, AP, NY Times Cyber edition, and CNN have run short interviews. What you have here is the rare spectacle of our enemies "dancing the hapak" around one of their own - with amazing contortions! - because a young Jewish snit, through-and-through politically correct, came up with the brilliant idea of "teaching the Holocaust" in an engineering class! Additional URLs for Revisionist connoisseurs: http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/ http://nuinfo.nwu.edu/univ-relations/media/news- releases/*univ/butz.html http://www.ece.nwu.edu/~ahaddad/epsbut.html http://www.k9ape.com/c96/candor04.html * From Austria comes something even more amazing: That you can land yourself in jail not only for Holocaust-doubting - a no-no in itself! - but for EXPLAINING to others how someone else, doubting the Holocaust, was charged and managed to get the charges dropped. We are talking of the case of Mr. Lueftl, president of the Chamber of Austrian Engineers for many years, a highly esteemed professional who has his own successful engineering firm and who was in demand by Austrian courts as a court-approved expert in engineering matters in well-publicized court cases for decades - until he came to the conclusion as an engineer who managed to put two and two together that the conventional stories told as "experienced" by "Holocaust eye witnesses" (read propagandists) were non-scientific nonsense. He published his findings in the Lueftl-Report - and was promptly charged for his scientific findings. The Government of Austria had initiated court proceedings against Lueftl 9 years (!) ago, but ultimately the charges were dropped. A pyrrhic victory, it seems: You cannot COMMENT on this victory in common sense in Austria! No kidding! The magazine AULA, a publication for university students, published something about the Lueftl case, and promptly got slapped with a heavy fine. Says one Revisionist: "But nothing will stop us - short of shooting us - from publishing this on the Internet." Also from Austria: Holocaust Skeptic Wolfgang Frohlich has been freed after much protest nationally and much help internationally. People have been sending money and even offered themselves as hostage exchanges - willing to let themselves be jailed so that he could go free. World-wide support for Frohlich, we have been told, was overwhelming. Said one of his supporters: "We don't know what you call this, but we call it state terror." In order to be released, Frohlich had to sign a paper agreeing to be gagged. (Shades of the court-imposed Zundel gag order in Canada some time ago that lasted for almost a year - which even higher courts in Canada found "constitutional"! After Ernst won his victory in the Supreme Court on August 27, 1992 and asked for compensation, the government refused to pay him a cent - not even for his lawyers' fees. Which won't be the end of the story!) * In Germany, by contrast, we are happy to report for a change, a highly successful, frequently aired documentary "film maker" was charged and convicted for lying and defaming the Germans. According to a Reuters release, Michael Born, a German television journalist, was convicted to four years' worth of prison time for selling bogus documentaries featuring staged racist gatherings, artificial Ku Klux Klan gatherings, cat shootings, drug smuggling and terrorist bomb-making operations. Born's defense was that he was merely giving the networks what they wanted and were willing to underwrite financially. Boy, did the Holocaust industry leave itself wide open for similar law suits through this one! * Closer to home but moving right along: Canada's civilian spy agency, CSIS, has been extremely busy trying to dig for non-existent dirt on Right Wing people and organizations. Toward that end, more than a dozen people in the Heritage Front alone have been approached to become informants for CSIS. Some people will turn snitch for money. * As a precaution against anticipated trouble from these Canadian-Stalinist snoopers, our Revisionist friends are drawing their wagons in a tight circle around the Zundelsite. When I came home, I learned that several Zundel-Mirrors are in place which were apparently set up during the Christmas holidays by free-speech Internet activists who have their own websites, and more, it seems, are in the making. I have a few additional offers on my list from people who will set up mirrors once we have everything in place to allow a simple and smooth transfer of documents. More of you out there in cyberspace might still consider it. As soon as I catch up, I will have a list ready for those of you who want to offer the locations as a service to your readers so they can find us - just in case the censors should succeed. Even if you have no space for a full Zundel Mirror site, place some of the information you deem important - or establish a separate link to the ZGram page. So. We are ready for a standoff. A volunteer with whom I have worked closely in the past has done a spectacular job in pulling together the entire sordid CSIS schlimazel into two sub-pages, "CSIS Exposed" and "SIRC Exposed" which feature not just legal documents revealing this Canadian based, KGB-type duo's official stance but actual video and audio clips of HOW they do their hatchet jobs. Take a look at the very first Zundelsite link. Bless the Internet permitting us to be part of the rapidly expanding alternate news media! For how long? For as along as the electronic website wagons stay drawn around the fire of the Zundelsite! And let no one deceive you, for this is merely the beginning. I have said it before, but it bears repeating: Please understand this very clearly! This is not about Ernst Zundel and the Zundel-Haus. There are now a lot of Revisionist voices and related websites on the Internet far more outspoken than we are. What sets the message of the Zundelsite apart and makes it dangerous to our enemies is something very simple: It's called substance and verisimilitude, well-grounded in name-recognition and decades of courageous, principled high-profile global work. Ernst Zundel has been at it for a long time. What is at stake is an entire century's worth of almost total mind control that we are wrestling from the claws of information managers, news twisters, spin doctors and would-be-censors - manipulated and controlled conventional media put to the use of Rule of Evil over the affairs of all mankind, not just our race and our civilization. That kind of awesome power won't be surrendered without the fiercest fight and dirtiest means by our opposition. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "In an unprecedented move in late November, the United Nations requested that the government of Israel submit a detailed report on its torture proceedings. Israel has two months to complete the report." (The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, Jan/Feb. 1997, p. 86) ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Tue Jan 14 14:44:42 PST 1997 Article: 92888 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!clicnet!news.clic.net!news.bconnex.net!feed1.news.erols.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 12:35:42 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970112: Letter to a Liberal Activist X-Original-Subject: ZGram - January 12, 1997 - "Letter to a Liberal Activist" Message-ID: Reply-To: ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com X-Plug: Community ConneXion provided privacy on the Net. http://www.c2.net/ X-Decency: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/botting.gary X-Zundel: http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Sender: ezundel@mail.cts.com X-Nota-Bene: alpha is no longer a valid return email address; post replies Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Lines: 256 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:92888 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:3328 The following propaganda is reposted to public forums by an automated script in the interest of public oversight. As a general rule, it is not safe to assume that anything following the BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE delimiter is true. Said material is Copyright 1996 Ingrid Rimland, posted by permission (see ZGram 961208). These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 12. 1997 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: I was gone again for a week and have just now returned to my computer after sleeping off the horror of the Central California floods in which I was caught for a few days. It was something to be seen to be believed! At any rate, I'm back, and those of you who either asked to be added to, or to be taken off, the ZGram list - it will be done today. Just give me a few hours! Meanwhile, here is one of the best pieces of writing I have seen in recent months. I don't know the author personally, but he gave me permission to use his "Letter to a Liberal about the Holocaust" for one of my ZGrams, and I consider it a classic for its clean-cut, lucid and quietly understated conclusions. Ken Blewitt here in a letter to a friend he describes as a "liberal activist": "Seven or eight years ago, when I first heard of Holocaust revisionism, I thought it was probably a mean- spirited propaganda campaign, the allegations of which those making them did not themselves believe. Since I had such a negative first impression - although I had been exposed to "anti-Semitic" literature, and had formed the belief that the Jews were a nation, not a religion, a nation, moreover, whose long-standing practice it was to do evil to its various host nations with the intention of taking them over, and since such thinking generates an *a priori* possibility that would otherwise be lacking that the Holocaust was a hoax - I can only anticipate that you, who are less "anti- Semitic" than I, must be very skeptical about the claims of the Holocaust revisionists. So let me make a few remarks about some of the considerations that changed my initial negativity regarding Holocaust skepticism or denial. (1) One of the founders of Holocaust revisionism was a Socialist named Rassinier who had been imprisoned in a concentration camp by the Nazis due to his Leftist opinions. Rassinier was a French geologist. I don't recall if he had a Ph.D., but he was an intelligent, educated man. After the war, claims of atrocities committed against the Jews in the camp where he had been interred were made that contradicted his experiences in this camp. Rassinier conducted research that confirmed his suspicions that these claims were untrue. Having made this discovery regarding his own camp he proceeded to research the question of the claimed atrocities committed against the Jews in the Nazi concentration camps in general, and, between 1950 and 1964, wrote a series of books on the subject. In 1950 Rassinier questioned the reality of the Holocaust; and as time progressed, his doubts that the Holocaust was real grew stronger, until he denied it completely in 1962, when he called it "...a historic lie: the most tragic and the most macabre imposture of all time." I do not know how Rassinier felt about the Jews - (though it would seem probable that if he had been significantly anti-Semitic the Nazis would not have been as down on him as they were). At any rate, inasmuch as he was imprisoned in a Nazi camp, I do not see how he could possibly be called a "Nazi apologist." In all likelihood he hated the Nazis. (2) Largely as a result of Rassinier's books, coupled with the fact that the camps on German soil (unlike those behind the Iron Curtain) were able to be inspected, an agency of the German government issued a statement in 1960 stating that none of the camps on German soil had been "extermination" camps - i.e., there had been no gas chambers or genocide in any of the camps on German soil. There are two points to be made here: (a) The films we are constantly shown on television of the horrible scenes our troops discovered when they liberated these camps on German soil are not proof of any Holocaust - as they purport to be. A total breakdown of Germany's infrastructure during the last months of the war caused starvation and outbreaks of disease in these camps. That is what these films depict - not genocide, as it is insinuated on television. Given that it has been known since 1960 that these camps that our troops liberated were not extermination camps, the manner in which the gruesome scenes filmed in these places are presented on television - as proof of genocide - must be termed deceptive. What is the meaning of this deception? (b) Several ranking officers who ran these camps on German soil "confessed" that they had killed Jews in gas chambers. Here we have "confessions" that are known to be false. What does this suggest? (3) Auschwitz was the site of Germany's newest and most technologically advanced synthetic rubber plant; and Germany was the world's leader in this particular field of technology. Shortly after Pearl Harbor the Japanese cut off our supply of natural rubber. In the months that followed we set about building our own synthetic rubber plants. This was an area where we had no experience. It stands to reason that efforts would have been made to obtain aerial photographs of the synthetic rubber plant in Auschwitz (the most modern of such plants in existence) during the summer of 1942, when Congress authorized the construction of such plants - which was after the mass murder of Jews had allegedly begun in Auschwitz and thousands of Jews were allegedly being killed every day. It is probable that such aerial surveillance was carried out. Yet no damning aerial photographs of Auschwitz were offered as evidence at Nuremberg. Furthermore, is it credible that the Germans were conducting their largest mass murder operation at a site that they must have known America would be going to lengths to photograph from the air? (4) Let us draw a distinction between "hard" and "soft" evidence, such that the former includes aerial photographs and contemporaneous German documents, and the latter consists of testimony: both confessions of Germans and eyewitness testimony of camp inmates. The overwhelming bulk of evidence for the Holocaust consists of "soft" evidence. The few aerial photographs cited as evidence are inconclusive. And only a few German documents have been found that suggest the existence of gas chambers, genocide, etc. - while the meaning of these few documents is subject to interpretation. Isn't it doubtful that an operation of such massive scale as the alleged Holocaust would leave only traces of "hard" evidence? (5) The Germans did not have DDT. Their general purpose pesticide, which was used whether the pests were rats, lice, or whatever, was a commercial product named Zyklon B. Its active ingredient was hydrogen cyanide. Zyklon B consisted of solid disks that would give off hydrogen cyanide gas when exposed to air. Large amounts of Zyklon B were found in the Nazi camps. But there is a non- criminal explanation for this that is well documented. In the camps there were outbreaks of typhus fever, which was carried by lice. Zyklon B was the agent supposedly used to kill Jews in mass in the alleged gas chambers. However, since 1988 forensic evidence has existed that refutes this claim. Hydrogen cyanide combines with iron found in bricks and mortar to form a stable iron-cyanide compound that can be detected years later. In 1988 Fred Leuchter took samples from the inner walls and floors of the alleged gas chambers in Auschwitz and compared them with samples taken from the inner walls and floor of what was known to be a delousing chamber in Auschwitz - a delousing chamber that was used to disinfect clothing. Enormous differences in the amounts of iron-cyanide compound found in the samples taken from the alleged gas chambers and those taken from the delousing chamber were discovered. The former were only trace elements whose probable cause was occasional delousings of the buildings in question. Leuchter's findings have been confirmed by subsequent forensic analyses, including one that was commissioned by the Auschwitz State Museum. My readings of revisionist literature have convinced me that the Holocaust was a hoax from the very beginning. I think a sizable percentage of educated Americans, especially those with a liberal arts education, would draw the same conclusion if they were familiar with the revisionist arguments. But one does not have to make such a strong statement in order to derive far-reaching implications. From the mere fact that the Holocaust fails to be an "established fact," as it has been presented to us as being for fifty years, conclusions of very great significance follow. * An established fact is something that your society assures you is beyond doubt. The proposition that the earth is round is an example. You can verify this somewhat by observing ships on the horizon of a sea or large lake; but it is your trust in your society that mostly makes you believe it. * Through your trust in your society you believe that when something has been given the status of an established fact it has been determined to be knowledge, and you can examine it all you like and find no contradictory evidence. * From the points I have made above it is clear that the Holocaust falls short of what an established fact is supposed to be. Critical examination turns up far more contradictory evidence than should be possible in the case of an established fact. * We are obviously not dealing with knowledge here. Even if the Holocaust happened, it is not KNOWN to have happened. If tomorrow or next year new evidence should emerge that proved beyond all doubt that the Holocaust was real, the fact would remain that for fifty years it held the status of an established fact when in truth it fell short of what an established fact should be. This can be said with the highest certainty. * How did this failure come about? What was the condition of the possibility that the Holocaust, which lacked the certainty required of an established fact, was given the status of an established fact - for no less than fifty years? * I submit that this could not have happened unless the Jews possessed near absolute control of publicity - in violation of the free press principle that is law in America by the First Amendment. * From the failure of the Holocaust to be what an established fact should be there is additionally an important implication found in the fact that university professors, who have been given tenure to ensure that they will not fear to expose falsity, have remained silent. * Must we not conclude that the power of the Jews has overridden the security provided by, as well as the duty implicit in, the institution of tenure? * And what does it mean that our Congressmen have remained silent? Again this speaks of Jewish power. * That the Holocaust has been given the status of an established fact when it has lacked the requisite indubitability to be knowledge is not mere conjecture. This is something that we can know. It is a reality. * And from this reality a number of things of extreme importance follow by clear logic: the main one of which is that the Jews control our press in violation of basic American law." Thought for the Day: "The whole world has . . . sunk today to a slave of the Revolutionary ideal; and yet this ideal is, before which all, without exception, on this point, bow to the ground, here, too, so basically false, so incredibly foolish, that future generations will not comprehend how it was possible to stultify even the intelligent among us for so long." (Houston Steward Chamberlain in "Political Ideals") ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ From ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com Wed Jan 15 11:42:15 PST 1997 Article: 93015 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!noc.van.hookup.net!nic.mtl.hookup.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!n3ott.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!van.istar!west.istar!n1van.istar!van-bc!news.mindlink.net!nntp.portal.ca!news.bc.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news1.mpcs.com!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!zog.gov!zundel-repost Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:37:10 -0800 From: zundel-repost@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel Organization: The Jooooooooooooooooooish CaBaL that Censors Everybody (tm) III Subject: 970114: UN Casts Its Eye On Ernst Zundel X-Original-Subject: ZGRam - January 14, 1997 - "UN Casts Its Eye On Ernst Zundel" Message-ID: Reply-To: ezundel@cts.com, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com X-Plug: Community ConneXion provided privacy on the Net. http://www.c2.net/ X-Decency: http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/b/botting.gary X-Zundel: http://www1.us.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z/zundel-ernst/ X-Ingrid: http://www.webcom.com/~ina/ X-Ingrid-Really: ftp://ftp.eye.net/pub/nizkor/people/r/rimland.ingrid X-Remember: http://www.nizkor.org/ X-Sender: ezundel@mail.cts.com X-Nota-Bene: alpha is no longer a valid return email address; post replies Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Lines: 178 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:93015 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:3330 The following propaganda is reposted to public forums by an automated script in the interest of public oversight. As a general rule, it is not safe to assume that anything following the BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE delimiter is true. Said material is Copyright 1996 Ingrid Rimland, posted by permission (see ZGram 961208). These four header paragraphs are not. I firmly believe that since it is not only unwise but impossible to censor such material, the best response is to facilitate the public exposure and refutation of same in appropriate forums, and to educate children to think critically about racialist propaganda and disinformation such as the below. If you have a different view, please post publicly or email me, rcgraves@ix.netcom.com. In my opinion, the best resource available on the net for researching and countering this material is the Nizkor Project, whose objectives you may read at http://www.nizkor.org/objectives.html. For keyword and concept searches of material on Nizkor, see http://search.nizkor.org/search.html. Nizkor now has a mirror site in Germany, http://www1.de.nizkor.org/nizkor/ Please contribute to the global conversation by following up to this post with corrections of any errors or lies in Ingrid's Zundelgram that have not already been pointed out. Header text last updated Mon, Dec 9, 1996. ------------ BEGIN ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------ January 14, 1996 Good Morning from the Zundelsite: This morning I woke up to some four pages of the January issue of "Germania" - the German version of Ernst Zundel's monthly report to his financial and moral supporters on what will happen next. One of the headlines says, translated: "Ernst Zundel is appealing to the 25 most influential global Human Rights organizations to assist Germans, especially German Revisionists and dissidents, to regain and retain THEIR human rights." When Ernst first said that he was now prepared to take on the UN, most people scoffed, and many felt that he was shifting his resources into an area made much too slippery with droppings from those bounteous do-gooders on which the Evil Forces slide our once-proud and accomplished Western civilization right into the abyss. But there is something to be said for the fastidious Zundel nose when it comes to discerning just what it is, this time around, that's smelling up the air. What's in the air of late is this, condensed and partly paraphrased: (Source: Inter Press Service via Individual Inc., 11-21-1996) "Alarmed at the dramatic increase in racial discrimination and xenophobia worldwide, the United Nations is pushing for an international conference on racism. 'The international community cannot remain indifferent . . . to the racist ideologies being spread by the most modern information techniques," warned Maurice Glele-Ahanhanzo, U.N. Special Rapporteur on Human Rights. Glele-Ahanhanzo said the 185-member General Assembly should not only convene 'without further delay' a world conference on racism but also explore the possibility of holding a second conference specifically on xenophobia." Such a conference, it is held, ". . . could also examine further the question of whether the incitement of racial hatred, particularly through new information media, is justifiable under the right to freedom of speech and expression." Based on a 24-page study on "contemporary forms of racism", the United Nations claims it is ". . . alarmed at the speed and intensity with which racial hatred is spreading along the global information superhighway. . ." Now if you are a Zundelist, of course immediately you will assume that they must mean the Zundelsite, since they have tried their darndest to smear us with the label of "hate mongering". Read on: "A growing trend has been observed among racist organizations to use electronic mail or the Internet to spread racist or xenophobic propaganda," the study notes. The study next goes on to say that the United Nations blames the rise in racism on several factors - and sure enough: '. . . including the worldwide immigration crisis and renewed denials of the existence of the Nazi holocaust." The study also cites ". . . desecration and arson in places of worship and cemeteries." It furthermore points out that, in the United States alone, more than 70 African-American churches have been burned down last year, ". . . at least some of them presumably by white supremacists." Following that inflammatory, pictorial preamble you get this, in case you missed the point: "The study cites the case of a Toronto-based extremist, Ernest (sic) Zuendel, (sic) who publishes anti-Semitic literature under such explicit titles as "Auschwitz: Myth and Reality," "The Holocaust: Let's Hear Both Sides," and "Were There Really Six Million Deaths?" (sic) So then Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali went on to do the bidding of the Powers That Be and sent letters to member states soliciting support for a world conference on racism. "Regrettably", only two countries, Denmark and Uruguay, responded. Regrettably? To whom? Should it not be read as "sensible" rather than "regrettable", that only two countries responded? One might say that most national government quite correctly read this call for examining the so-called rampant "xenophobia" on the Internet as being a politically motivated Marxist ploy that's really wearing thin - and just ignore the mirror-fencing exercise, having better things to do. The study next delves into reasons why most member states, particularly those dependent on migrant labor, have little interest in that kind of conference, for a variety of reasons, concluding with ". . . Thailand considers the presence of 350,000 "illegal" immigrants from Burma a threat to the country's security while South Korea has declared it will expel all "illegal immigrants" in 1999. The same attitude toward immigration is seen in Europe, where most member states of the European Union have adopted tougher legislation." As an example of this "major trend," the study next goes on to mourn, is ". . . the example of France which has proposed a series of measures to improve control over immigration by non-Europeans. " "Many observers consider that these measures contravene human rights," the study notes. It also singles out the United States where there has been "a mobilization against foreigners unprecedented since the Second World War. . . " In other words, big racial trouble. Absolutely everywhere. Having nothing to do with Ernst Zundel the man who voices his legitimate concerns on behalf of his people and race - but having everything to do with one lone, inconvenient but ever-more-quickening message adjudicating the so-called "Holocaust" as THE convenient pretext for unmatched mischief on a global scale. What mischief, some still ask? INCLUDING the forced, brutal, genocidal mixing of the races so as to keep and to exploit a cheap, convenient labor pool, thus guaranteeing a supply of Third World slaves to take the jobs away from the First-Worlders - for the sole benefit of some anonymous large corporations and slick banksters. Ingrid Thought for the Day: "There is much written about 'The Great Conspiracy', the New World Order, and secret organizations of one kind or another. People are asking - what is the game, and who runs it?" (From the Introduction of "In the Beginning. . . " by R. K. Hoskins) ________ ________ ________ The Zundelsite can be found at http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/ ------------ END ZUNDELGRAM MESSAGE ------------
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