From veritas.nizkor.org!cableinet.co.uk!David.M Mon Apr 19 04:42:07 1999 Return-Path:Received: from veritas.nizkor.org (6122 bytes) by www.nizkor.org via sendmail with P:uucp/D:dotforward/T:pipe (sender: owner: ) id for nizkor; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:42:06 -0400 (EDT) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #1 built 1997-Oct-31) Received: from jaguars.cableinet.net(jaguars-int.cableinet.net[193.38.113.9]) (5715 bytes) by www.nizkor.org via sendmail with P:smtp/D:dotforward/T:pipe (sender: owner: ) id for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 19:07:41 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #1 built 1997-Oct-31) Received: (qmail 14975 invoked from network); 3 Mar 1999 23:51:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO b52.centurione.com) (194.117.148.56) by jaguars with SMTP; 3 Mar 1999 23:51:16 -0000 Message-ID: <36DDCE4E.2F15@cableinet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 00:05:34 +0000 From: David Reply-To: David.M@cableinet.co.uk X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.revisionism To: Kenneth McVay OBC CC: yawen@enter.net Subject: Re: Himmler challenge update References: <36DDB834.4185@cableinet.co.uk> <7bkd62$2ac6$1@hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: kmcvay Status: O In response to my post, in which I indicated that the National Archives were not prepared to release the original Himmler tapes but were prepared to sell a certified copy thereof, and in which I discussed issues arising from that, Kenneth McVay OBC wrote: > In article <36DDB834.4185@cableinet.co.uk>, > David wrote: > > >You may recall that I expressed an interest in taking the Nizkor > >'Himmler Posen speech' challenge, namely to have the tape of the speech > >analysed, pay for the analysis if it proves the tape genuine, or watch > >with satisfaction as Nizkor pays for the analysis if the tape is not > >proven genuine. > > As I told you - I thought I had been clear - you must contact Mr. > Edeiken and come to an agreement with respect to this process. > > Until you have done that, there seems little point in discussing the > matter further. > > I am, given an agreement, prepared to sign a legally binding contract > at the University of London on May 7, or St. Anne's, Oxford, on the > 14th. > > -- > The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org > Ken McVay, Director.ICQ 7015822. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay > Pentium III: Big Brother Inside Let history note that he also sent me the following e-mail, which he chose not to post in alt.revisionism: Return-Path: Delivered-To: David.M@cableinet.co.uk Received: (qmail 7127 invoked from network); 3 Mar 1999 22:23:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www.nizkor.org) (198.96.119.205) by tigers.cableinet.net with SMTP; 3 Mar 1999 22:23:54 -0000 Received: from localhost (1312 bytes) by www.nizkor.org via sendmail with P:stdio/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:39:16 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2.0.98 1997-Oct-16 #1 built 1997-Oct-31) Message-ID: From: kmcvay@www.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC) Subject: Re: Himmler challenge update In-Reply-To: <36DDB834.4185@cableinet.co.uk> from David at "Mar 3, 99 10:31:23 pm" To: David.M@cableinet.co.uk Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:39:16 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 883 X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 You wrote: > You may recall that I expressed an interest in taking the Nizkor > 'Himmler Posen speech' challenge, namely to have the tape of the speech > analysed, pay for the analysis if it proves the tape genuine, or watch > with satisfaction as Nizkor pays for the analysis if the tape is not > proven genuine. > > On 22 February 1999 I asked the National Archives whether the original You have not reached an agreement with Mr. Edeiken. Why is that? Please contact Mr. Edeiken, and come to an agreement, so that we may sign a contract in London. Without such an agreement, there is little point in contacting me. Thanks for the information - all of which I am already well aware of. Ken McVay -- The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org Ken McVay, Director.ICQ 7015822. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay Pentium III: Big Brother Inside This poses several interesting questions: (1) If McVay knew that the National Archives would not release the original Himmler tape, as he claims, why did he issue the challenge in the first place? (2) Is McVay now trying to distance himself from his challenge? (3) Will Mr Edeiken step in and address the points from which Mr McVay has fled? (4) Are Nizkor prepared to attempt to persuade the National Archives to make the original tapes available or are they not? I now publicly challenge Mr Edeiken to address all the points made in my original post 'Himmler Challenge Update', given that his master does not wish to discuss the matter with me. If he, too, does not have the guts to make his full response in alt.revisionism, I will post whatever response comes my way on his behalf. David E Michael
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