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From wmcguire@cybercom.net Tue Jul 30 08:24:19 PDT 1996
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From: wmcguire@cybercom.net (Wayne McGuire)
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Subject: Re: Flight 800, western states blackout - J. Orlin Grabbe
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 23:23:09 GMT
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Ron Katona  wrote:

>>               The Downing of TWA Flight 800
>>                           by
>>                     J. Orlin Grabbe
>.....(mindless rambling deleted)
>
>You sir, should be ashamed for spreading this kind of nonsense. Many of 
>the facts you report are simply not true, or are exaggerated. Take the 
>statement that the stinger was recorded by radar. BS! Can you prove 
>that? Have you seen the radar records first hand? The answer, of course 
>is NO, you can't. But you continue to espouse these facts as if they 
>were written in stone. As a radar technician, I can tell you that ATC 
>radar is not designed to pick up a small, fast object that is moving 
>vertically. 
>How 'bout that power outage. Despite the fact that such outages are not 
>rare, and are usually caused by mother nature (as was the case in the 
>recent Western states outage), or mechanical failure, you offer another 
>explanation without any credible proof.
>Your whole post is a nice work of fiction, perhaps you missed your true 
>calling and should be writing spy novels. 
>-- 
>Ron Katona  ron3b@cris.com

All the issues you raised here are valid. Grabbe should definitely
start writing spy novels, a genre for which he shows a distinct
talent. Or perhaps, like Ron Hubbard, he could start a new religion.

If Grabbe is true to form, he will answer none of your questions, and
his credibility, which is already at the vanishing point, will shrink
even further.

--
Wayne McGuire
wmcguire@cybercom.net
http://www.cybercom.net/~wmcguire/


From wmcguire@cybercom.net Wed Jul 31 15:28:46 PDT 1996
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From: wmcguire@cybercom.net (Wayne McGuire)
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Subject: Re: Flight 800, western states blackout - J. Orlin Grabbe
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Ron Katona  wrote:

>>               The Downing of TWA Flight 800
>>                           by
>>                     J. Orlin Grabbe
>.....(mindless rambling deleted)
>
>You sir, should be ashamed for spreading this kind of nonsense. Many of 
>the facts you report are simply not true, or are exaggerated. Take the 
>statement that the stinger was recorded by radar. BS! Can you prove 
>that? Have you seen the radar records first hand? The answer, of course 
>is NO, you can't. But you continue to espouse these facts as if they 
>were written in stone. As a radar technician, I can tell you that ATC 
>radar is not designed to pick up a small, fast object that is moving 
>vertically. 
>How 'bout that power outage. Despite the fact that such outages are not 
>rare, and are usually caused by mother nature (as was the case in the 
>recent Western states outage), or mechanical failure, you offer another 
>explanation without any credible proof.
>Your whole post is a nice work of fiction, perhaps you missed your true 
>calling and should be writing spy novels. 
>-- 
>Ron Katona  ron3b@cris.com

All the issues you raised here are valid. Grabbe should definitely
start writing spy novels, a genre for which he shows a distinct
talent. Or perhaps, like Ron Hubbard, he could start a new religion.

If Grabbe is true to form, he will answer none of your questions, and
his credibility, which is already at the vanishing point, will shrink
even further.

--
Wayne McGuire
wmcguire@cybercom.net
http://www.cybercom.net/~wmcguire/



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