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On July 4, 1996, CODOH (Committee for Open Debate On the Holocaust)
suddenly found itself without access to the Internet. Unlike the film,

_Independence Day_, in which alien space ships vaporize the White
House and other American shrines, the motivation for "vaporizing"
CODOH wasn't allegiance to a alien galaxy, but allegiance to an
alian power: the bandit state of Israel and the web of Zionist agents,
passing themselves off as adherents of a religious faith.
   Investigation into the matter revealed that Rick Horowitz (from the
name alone, we see we're dealing with unsullied Swedish stock!),
division manager for valleynet, CODOH's (former) server, unilaterally
decided to "pull the plug" because he was displeased by CODOH's
"content." It was later discovered that this same Horowitz operates
his own web-site devoted exclusively to Zionist agit-prop, and with
the hypocrisy one has come to expect from those of his ilk, desplay-
ing the Blue Ribbon emblem of Freedom From Censorship on the Net:
an act in the "noble" Zionist tradition, like bombing the King David
Hotel and massacring every inhabitant of Deir Yassin (in following
Yaweh's divine mandate on genocide: Deuteronomy xx 15-17).
   Well CODOH's back on the net, now with Virtual Domain: immune
>from  further Zionist terror-tactics, providing access to repressed
Holocaustomania fabrications in six languages, for a growing world-
wide audience, including making available to Francophones in
Europe and Quebec Roger Gaudry's _The Founding Myths of
Israeli Politics_: the origins of that vile scrub of Levantine dessert
which has already bled Americans for over $200 BILLION in
"foreign aid." 
   Whether in English, French, Italian, German, Spanish, or Nor-
wegian, you'll find a host of revelations on CODOH, now at

			http://www.codoh.com

Drop in, look around, check out what Horowitz and the heirs of
the Irgun and the Stern Gang DON'T want you to consider. You
may start wondering why Americans are shelling out $5,000 per
yamulka per year in "foreign aid," while many REAL Americans
are forced to live on less than that as their total income. If Eretz
Israel needs money, their "supporters" can raise it by selling the
U.S. and Canada back to the _goyim_. 



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: Negroes in the olympics
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bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:

>
>Been watching the Olympics recently, when a thought occured to me: 
>Negroes are only (over)represented in running and boxing.  Where's all the
>negroes in OTHER events, like equestrian, track and field, water sports
>(especially swimming), etc.?
> 
>Of course, some screamy-meemy liberal will now say that running and boxing
>don't require a lot of expensive equipment, the insinuation being, of
>course, that all of us White people have horses out back, kayaks and canoes
>and white-water rivers, javelins and disci, Olympic-sized pools and diving
>boards at 10 and 30 metres.  Ah, the wonders of the liberal mind!
> 
>Les
>
If you consult with an honest anatomist, he will inform you Negroes
CANNOT compete in swimming, because of the way their bodies
store fat. The Negro needs no protection against excessive cold.
Their natural environment presents problems of heat radiation,
especially as the quasi-black skin to protect against sunlight ab-
sorbs heat according to Stefan's law, as a function of n^2 (2^4=16).
For that reason, the Negro is far more prone to store fat in the but-
tocks. This makes swimming very difficult, as fat being lighter than
water tends to rise, pushing the buttocks up and the head down,
making breathing far much more difficult. This racial characteristic
is also an impediment in gymnastics. Logically, it should be a benefit
in figure skating, where a lower center-of-gravity would be an aid,
but few Negroes go out for snow-related sports. The superior loco-
motor coordination of the Negro and running endurance help ex-
plain why Negroes do very well at basket-ball and football. When's
the last time you can recall a non-Negro winning the Marathon?




SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sun Aug  4 07:58:37 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: YGGDRASIL & F.P. YOCKEY (ULICK VARANGE): AN OPEN LETTER
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Ave, Defensor Europae Stirpis!

You have taken up the burden, where the martyred Spenglerian,
Francis Parker Yockey (1917-1960) laid it down. For that, you earn
my respect. This, however, is the wrong forum for your efforts. You
are trying to teach pigs to sing: merely wasting your time and annoy-
ing the pigs. (Your _opera omnia_ is also in DIRE need of contructive
editing and proper organization. Too much of that more suited to
footnotes and references is, because of structural limitations, inclu-
ded in the main body of your text.)

Lest this effort and your good intentions simply vanish down the
Memory Hole, I urge you to contact the Euro-American Student Union:
                      http://www.nwlink.com/~justin49
The ESU isn't ANTI anything; it's PRO the preservation of the funda-
mentally European foundations of the U.S.: as much a European nation
as Germany, France, or Switzerland. It's basic premise is that Europe
extends from the Urals to the Pacific Coast of White North Armerica.

It is BY students and FOR students, but it welcomes input and guidance
>from  those older, those interested in passing on the Torch.

I'm sure they would welcome providing you a forum for your efforts,
after the requisite editing and reformatting.

Further, any other readers of this newsgroup who are interested in the
preservation of White racial consciousness among young people, and
especially students interested in forming an ESU chapter on their
campus are cordially invited to visit the website and discuss any and
all relevant topics with other White students. Let us not forget that
Euro-Americans may be derived from many peoples, but they form
one common stock, one "essence."

MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!

          "Ursus Major" (Mentor Primus)

ESU:  http://www.nwlink.com/~justin49

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sun Aug  4 07:58:38 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: Tell me I'm wrong!
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pturn@stlnet.com (Spoon) wrote:

>There is a  bona fide undisputed reality that the media is unwilling
>to face. IQ testing has been going on since the first world war. No
>matter how the tests are tweaked and massaged people of African origin
>score in the neigborhood of 85; people of European origin score in the
>neighborhood of 100 ( Okay - by definition); and people of Asian
>origin score in the neighborhood of 105. For my money, the only reason
>that these numbers were ever questioned is because these results are
>unacceptable to individuals who are attracted to the concept of racial
>equality in all facets of human life.
>
>Let us ponder how this translates into our world.  I honest to God
>think that there is a possibilty that  the "race card" in the Simpson
>case is in fact an "intelligence card". Let's face it,  the elite in
>this country is (for once) on the same page as the masses. The reason
>why is because the more intellingent a person is the more likely it is
>they will think that O. J. Simpson is guilty. 
>
>According to Charles  Murray's  book 75% (more or less) of
>African-Americans have IQs less than 100 as do 25% of the
>European-Americans. Am I absolutely lost at sea or is this is more or
>less the ratio of people in general who believe that O. J. Simpson is
>not a murderer. 
>
>I'm not interested in hearing that I'm a racist. I know that.  I'm
>interested in somebody showing me that I'm wrong.
>
>                                                        Spoon

YOU'RE NOT WRONG, BUT ONLY JEWS ARE ALLOWED TO
BE RACISTS WITH IMPUNITY. THE _GOYIM_ AREN'T "CHOSEN,"
SO THEY MAY NOT PARTAKE OF YAWEH'S DISPENSATION!




SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sun Aug  4 07:58:39 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: French apartheid
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an569972@anon.penet.fi (White Aryan Warrior) wrote:

>
>Every English man and women should leave Quebec which is an
>apartheid state.
>As long as the Quebec maintains their view that French
>is preferrable to English, you MÃST leave.
>Anglo-Saxons are under havily attack, help your brother and
>sister.
>
MAIS QUI! DEPARTEZ TOUTE DE SUITE!
VIVE LE QUEBEC LIBRE!

(First the damn imperialist steal their country,
then they try to stamp out their country and
religion, treating the Quebecois, like they were
a pack of simians. Move to f**cking Alberta,
and pretend you're Texans, with snow up your
ass! Instead of focusing on the solidarity of all
WHITE people, you hassle the Quebecois, like
you stuffed the Afrikaners into concentration
camps--and then goaded them into committing
suicide. The best thing that could have happened
to Mother England was for the Germans to have
won the Battle of Britain. London wouldn't be
swarming with the scum of the Indies and odious
wogs, coming back to haunt a defunct empire!

Note: the poster is neither Canadian nor of British or
French extraction, but a Euro-American who is sick and
tired of seeing Euro-stock malign and murder each other,
while the Third-World simians breed like rabbits and await
the day when Jean Raspail's _Le Camp du Saints_ isn't
fiction!



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sun Aug  4 07:58:40 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: Ft. Bragg Swastika Incident
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preston@anv.net (John Preston) wrote:

>What is the current status of the investigation regarding the incident
>several weeks ago in which red swastikas were spray-painted on the
>dormitory doors of black soldiers at Ft. Bragg?
>
>The media went hysterical over the incident and Clinton won lots of PR
>points by condemning the act and reiterating his admistration's zero-
>tolerance for racism in the military.  Prominent black leaders also
>expressed their indignation and wallowed in their victimization.
>
>Then I heard that a black soldier had become the primary suspect and I
>haven't seen or heard anything about it since.
>
And you probably won't either. The use of an
_agent provocateur_ is old hat. The sheep are
so brain-washed, they do a Pavlovian number
when encountering a symbol which was in use
4,000 years before Hitler & Co. came along. There
are examples of Roman pottery with swastikas on
them. The very word "swastika" is from the Sanskrit.
The German word is  _Hakenkreuz_, which no one's
ever heard of. 



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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preston@anv.net (John Preston) wrote:

>The government has described the person who called in the bomb threat
>18 minutes before the Olympic Park explosion as sounding like a "white
>American male."  
>
>How can they possibly determine the person's race by the sound of his
>voice?  They would never be insensitive enough to say a criminal suspect
>"sounded black."  The caller might be Asian, Hispanic, etc. who was born
>and raised in the USA and therefore has no discernible accent.
>
>How do they know that the caller wasn't really a womyn with a serious
>hormonal imbalance?
>
>I notice that the leftist propaganda machine is wasting no time trying
>to connect this bombing with American militia groups.
>
"Insensitivity" has nothing to do with it. Blatant anti-White bias is
at the core of it. We saw the same thing in Atlanta, when a number of
young Negro males fell victim to a serial killer.

OBVIOUSLY, the perpetrator was a demented White Racist Bigot!!
When the serial killer was apprehended and turned out to be a Negro
sexual psychopath, the media immediately blacked out the story.

The portents are not good. Egged on by the bastard media, the U.S.
has all the earmarks of a mega-Bosnia in the making. The ghost of
Sarajevo seems to be hovering over L.A., which may well prove to
be flash point. It calls itself, "The City of the Future," which may
prove to be all-too-true. If there's anyone in L.A. under the age of
60 without AT LEAST an AK47, he's an idiot!



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sun Aug  4 07:58:41 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: Should I buy the _turner Diaries_
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an569972@anon.penet.fi (White Aryan Warrior) wrote:

>
>Should I buy the Turner Diaries or search for them in a
>library?
>Why are this fictional book so controversial tht no one
>other than Layle Stuard would touch it?

If you want to read it, you'll have to buy it. You won't find it
in any library: it's VERBOTEN!

The work is an anti-Semitic polemic, taking up where Hitler
left off--only more extreme in it's views. Certainly you can get
a copy through the Metzgers, but don't go looking for it from
IHR or any Revisionst org. Revisionists aren't anti-Semites.
They simply object to history being falsified to rationalize
Zionist extortion (and keeping McVey shopping at Brooks
Brothers).



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:

>
>Been watching the Olympics recently, when a thought occured to me: 
>Negroes are only (over)represented in running and boxing.  Where's all the
>negroes in OTHER events, like equestrian, track and field, water sports
>(especially swimming), etc.?
> 
>Of course, some screamy-meemy liberal will now say that running and boxing
>don't require a lot of expensive equipment, the insinuation being, of
>course, that all of us White people have horses out back, kayaks and canoes
>and white-water rivers, javelins and disci, Olympic-sized pools and diving
>boards at 10 and 30 metres.  Ah, the wonders of the liberal mind!
> 
>Les
>
If you consult with an honest anatomist, he will inform you Negroes
CANNOT compete in swimming, because of the way their bodies
store fat. The Negro needs no protection against excessive cold.
Their natural environment presents problems of heat radiation,
especially as the quasi-black skin to protect against sunlight ab-
sorbs heat according to Stefan's law, as a function of n^2 (2^4=16).
For that reason, the Negro is far more prone to store fat in the but-
tocks. This makes swimming very difficult, as fat being lighter than
water tends to rise, pushing the buttocks up and the head down,
making breathing far much more difficult. This racial characteristic
is also an impediment in gymnastics. Logically, it should be a benefit
in figure skating, where a lower center-of-gravity would be an aid,
but few Negroes go out for snow-related sports. The superior loco-
motor coordination of the Negro and running endurance help ex-
plain why Negroes do very well at basket-ball and football. When's
the last time you can recall a non-Negro winning the Marathon?




SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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an569972@anon.penet.fi (White Aryan Warrior) wrote:

>
>Every English man and women should leave Quebec which is an
>apartheid state.
>As long as the Quebec maintains their view that French
>is preferrable to English, you MÃST leave.
>Anglo-Saxons are under havily attack, help your brother and
>sister.
>
MAIS QUI! DEPARTEZ TOUTE DE SUITE!
VIVE LE QUEBEC LIBRE!

(First the damn imperialist steal their country,
then they try to stamp out their country and
religion, treating the Quebecois, like they were
a pack of simians. Move to f**cking Alberta,
and pretend you're Texans, with snow up your
ass! Instead of focusing on the solidarity of all
WHITE people, you hassle the Quebecois, like
you stuffed the Afrikaners into concentration
camps--and then goaded them into committing
suicide. The best thing that could have happened
to Mother England was for the Germans to have
won the Battle of Britain. London wouldn't be
swarming with the scum of the Indies and odious
wogs, coming back to haunt a defunct empire!

Note: the poster is neither Canadian nor of British or
French extraction, but a Euro-American who is sick and
tired of seeing Euro-stock malign and murder each other,
while the Third-World simians breed like rabbits and await
the day when Jean Raspail's _Le Camp du Saints_ isn't
fiction!



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sun Aug  4 08:01:41 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: Should I buy the _turner Diaries_
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an569972@anon.penet.fi (White Aryan Warrior) wrote:

>
>Should I buy the Turner Diaries or search for them in a
>library?
>Why are this fictional book so controversial tht no one
>other than Layle Stuard would touch it?

If you want to read it, you'll have to buy it. You won't find it
in any library: it's VERBOTEN!

The work is an anti-Semitic polemic, taking up where Hitler
left off--only more extreme in it's views. Certainly you can get
a copy through the Metzgers, but don't go looking for it from
IHR or any Revisionst org. Revisionists aren't anti-Semites.
They simply object to history being falsified to rationalize
Zionist extortion (and keeping McVey shopping at Brooks
Brothers).



SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!

           "Ursus Major"

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From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug  5 15:52:20 PDT 1996
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bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:

>
>Been watching the Olympics recently, when a thought occured to me: 
>Negroes are only (over)represented in running and boxing.  Where's all the
>negroes in OTHER events, like equestrian, track and field, water sports
>(especially swimming), etc.?
> 
>Of course, some screamy-meemy liberal will now say that running and boxing
>don't require a lot of expensive equipment, the insinuation being, of
>course, that all of us White people have horses out back, kayaks and canoes
>and white-water rivers, javelins and disci, Olympic-sized pools and diving
>boards at 10 and 30 metres.  Ah, the wonders of the liberal mind!
> 
>Les
>
If you consult with an honest anatomist, he will inform you Negroes
CANNOT compete in swimming, because of the way their bodies
store fat. The Negro needs no protection against excessive cold.
Their natural environment presents problems of heat radiation,
especially as the quasi-black skin to protect against sunlight ab-
sorbs heat according to Stefan's law, as a function of n^2 (2^4=16).
For that reason, the Negro is far more prone to store fat in the but-
tocks. This makes swimming very difficult, as fat being lighter than
water tends to rise, pushing the buttocks up and the head down,
making breathing far much more difficult. This racial characteristic
is also an impediment in gymnastics. Logically, it should be a benefit
in figure skating, where a lower center-of-gravity would be an aid,
but few Negroes go out for snow-related sports. The superior loco-
motor coordination of the Negro and running endurance help ex-
plain why Negroes do very well at basket-ball and football. When's
the last time you can recall a non-Negro winning the Marathon?




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>
>Yours truly,
>ANDREW Mathis
>Jew Bastard
>
UNCOMMON CANDOR, ANDREW!

SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!
        "Ursus Major"


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If you're bent out of shape over paying extra for the certification
that the product is "kosher," just buy another brand which re-
fuses to submit to this extortion. I don't know of any fresh meat,
poultry, or chicken sold in California anyway, which carries this
label, because one can only buy kosher meats from a kosher
butcher. Ditto for eggs and dairy products. No ethnic foods I've
seen have the little "U"--Ever heard of "kosher salsa"?--so what
does it boil down to, some frozen veggies or cereals?

There are plenty of brands which DON'T pay the "kosher tax,"
so buy those. Canucks have it easy. They're not shelling out
$3 billion (C$ 4 billion) annually in "aid" to Israel. Yanks have a
legitimate gripe about that. Canadians don't. You guys up north
are getting off easy. Consider yourselfs lucky.

============================================


SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!
        "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Wed Aug  7 13:50:23 PDT 1996
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ygg@netcom.com (Yggdrasil) wrote:

>
>Yggdrasil's "Conservative Hypothetical"
>
>Suppose a frustrated conservative finally realized that he can't
>possibly roll back the welfare state as part of the loyal
>conservative opposition.
>
>Suppose he has watched Bill Buckley, the YAFers, and various
>stripes of libertarians debate theory for years and realizes that
>debate just doesn't change anything.
>
>Suppose he suddenly realizes that Liberals don't need to worry
>about rational arguments concerning the welfare state and its
>destructive power because voters respond to advertising and not
>distant concepts like economic efficiency.
>
>Suppose he gets tired of seeing liberals manipulate the political
>process by buying minority votes, and then splitting the majority
>over how much tribute to pay them.
>
>Suppose he tires of the same old answer all the time - higher
>taxes and more tribute. Suppose he is sick of the liberals taking
>their cut of the spoils and commandeering jobs in the bureaucracies
>they create to pass out this tribute.
>
>Suppose also that this frustrated conservative is truly outraged
>at the destruction the welfare state wreaks on blacks and other
>people of color, including family break-up, decreasing
>opportunity for economic interaction with the majority, and
>increasing racial hostility within those racial communities - all
>with the purpose of ensuring block voting for those "high minded"
>liberals who designed the system.
>
>Now suppose this frustrated conservative starts looking around
>for a political force strong enough to unite the majority against
>the liberals and their political manipulation and political
>profiteering. 
>
>Where would such a conservative look?
>
>The answer is obvious!
>
>Every liberal instinctively knows how to defeat a liberal!
>
>What is the one thing that liberals fear? What thoughts are so
>horribly threatening to them so as to be banished from public
>discourse?
>
>Could the answer be race?
>
>But of course! Liberals are afraid of race because they know it
>is the one political force strong enough to overthrow them.
>(And indeed, while nothing much is likely to come of the 1994
>Republican electoral victory, that victory was, according to the
>Wall Street Journal, attributable to "angry white males".)
>
>Now let us suppose that this frustrated conservative has
>absolutely no interest in being mean to blacks or jews, and has
>no interest whatever in kicking them out of the country.
>(Suppose, in fact, that he prefers them to white liberals.)
>
>But suppose also that this frustrated conservative figures out
>that the only way to stop white liberals from plundering his
>wallet and destroying his culture is for him, and other like
>minded Americans, to declare independence from those few states
>in which liberals and minorities are concentrated.
>
>If this newly independent nation has no racial minorities, then
>the liberals are going to have a much tougher time manipulating
>elections.
>
>Better yet, if most of the liberal agenda is made unconstitutional,
>then it will take years for liberals to fashion new manipulative myths 
>and propaganda to set themselves apart as morally superior beings, and
>it will take decades for them to fashion new special claims on the
>power to meddle in the lives of others.
>
>Now if the liberals remain concentrated in the parts of the
>country dominated by blacks and browns, their pretensions to
>power are going to become frightfully conspicuous.
>
>What a delightful prospect! Freedom from liberalism all around!
>
>Freedom from liberalism for whites, plus freedom from the welfare
>state for races now being destroyed by it! - Double bonus!
>
>Now suppose our frustrated conservative looks at the rest of the
>world and sees that everywhere else on earth, races and ethnic
>groups are separating into their own little separate countries.
>
>Suppose that academic economists say that these separate
>countries are economically viable in the information age as long
>they follow free trade policies.
>
>Suppose also that there are examples of secession and nation-
>splitting that are carried out peacefully, without bloodshed.
>
>Now I am going to ask a simple question:
>
>Aside the fact that liberals would lose their jobs manipulating
>productive citizens, and would be forced to get real jobs
>producing something that customers value, what is so
>reprehensible about this vision that tempts our hypothetical,
>frustrated conservative to reject the integrationist premise?
>
>No reason to start fantasizing about weird racial superiority
>theories, race wars, pogroms or other stuff that our hypothetical
>conservative has not advocated!  No need to seek opportunities
>for knee-jerk displays of liberal moral outrage!
>
>Just a simple means to a humane result! - No?
>
>Yggdrasil-
>
Why not? The Soviet Union imploded, shouldn't the U.S. follow suit?
Because of it's geographic peculiarity, Florida would do nicely as
New Africa. If that's not a just partition, portions of Georgia and
Mississippi might be incorporated. One would want the partition to
be just; however, not imbalanced against any ethnic group.

There is the matter of apportioning the national debt. Perhaps all
of the assets held by the current federal government (Z.O.G.) should
be sold, and the debt redeemed at, say, 10-20c on the dollar: a
corporate restructuring of junk bonds. (More likely, it would be done
as was done when East Germany collapsed: small amounts would
be redeemed at full value and larger amounts steeply discounted.
The theory being that large bondholders are best able to absorb
the shock. Hawaii, Alaska, and Puerto Rico should be forced to
accept independence. American Samoa should be offered the choice
of independence or restoration as a German colony (German is still
widely spoken in Samoa, and the chief of police is named Otto von
Bismarck. Honest!) The Virgin Island should be part of New Africa.
   Hispanic-America would include Southern California (sorry to see
San Diego go, but the partition deserves a 1st-rate Pacific harbor,
much of Arizona and parts of New Mexico (but not Santa Fe, which
cherishes it's SPANISH origin and loaths cholos. The California
Prefecture would include So. Calif. from Oxnard to and including
San Jose. (San Francisco would be a free city: the Danzig of the
Pacific.) That way Oriental America would also have (half) an
excellent harbor, plus the agricultural land of the San Juaquin
Valley (which could be renamed Buddha's Bredbasket or some
such), and it would also include Silicon Valley, as the Japs and
Chinks already control the electronics market. Inland, it would
extend as far as Las Vegas, which should also be made a free
city. The Jews could take advantage of the Law of the Return
and change the Passover Ritual to "This year in Jerusalem!"
(Those Jew who claim they're not professing, deny being "Chosen,"
and are genuinely European in coloration and mentality are Euro-
stock.) America Albia would be devided into several countries
(like the old Soviet empire). Northern Calif., Ore. & Wash. would
be Ectopia. Idaho and Utah, Deseret. Texas restored to indepen-
dences, with its border as the Nueces, where belongs. Oklahoma,
in toto--oil and all--would be restored as the Amer-Indian nation.
The Dead Zone, spilling over into Canada (which would rush to
join) would probably have it's capital at Minneapolis or Baniff
(mainly because no civilized nation's capital should be named
"Jackson Hole). Québec would be an independent French-speaking
nation, containing the Francophone enclaves in the U.S. New York
(like San Francisco, Las Vegas, and possibly Los Angeles--although
I'm tempted to say, "Let the Negroes, Chicanos, and Orientals fight
it out for L.A., and hopefully they'll be nothing left when they're
done--New York should be a free city. The mid-west would be named
Ceres Occidentalis, capital St. Louis. The eastern seaboard north of
Maryland, Pennsylvania was of the App., New York, New England and the
Maritime Provinces would be Greater New England. South of there to New
Africa, then west to Texas, the north to Ceres, would be Dixie.
Eastern Penn., Ohio, up through and including Detroit and down to
where it meets Dixie, would be New Ruhrland. Makes sense.
	Rabbi Meyer Schiller with American Renaissance--indeed American
Renaissance--would go along, so probably would The Nation of Islam,
The demagogue Al Torres would love a shot at being Presidente of
America-Hispanica. Although The Dead Zone would appear to lack
harbor facilities, that's no so: all ocean vessals can make it to
Duluth. So no new country would be land-locked.
	What about the old capital, Washington. That would be sold to
Disney--as a new theme park. With a little work, it could be trans-
formed into New Rome: replete with a revival of the gladiator combats:
a guaranteed money-maker. No feeding of Christians to the lions,
however. The U.S. may be going out of business, but not the SPCA!

================================================
ALL WHITE! ALL RIGHT! ALWAYS!

U.M.


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If you're bent out of shape over paying extra for the certification
that the product is "kosher," just buy another brand which re-
fuses to submit to this extortion. I don't know of any fresh meat,
poultry, or chicken sold in California anyway, which carries this
label, because one can only buy kosher meats from a kosher
butcher. Ditto for eggs and dairy products. No ethnic foods I've
seen have the little "U"--Ever heard of "kosher salsa"?--so what
does it boil down to, some frozen veggies or cereals?

There are plenty of brands which DON'T pay the "kosher tax,"
so buy those. Canucks have it easy. They're not shelling out
$3 billion (C$ 4 billion) annually in "aid" to Israel. Yanks have a
legitimate gripe about that. Canadians don't. You guys up north
are getting off easy. Consider yourselfs lucky.

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SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!
        "Ursus Major"


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If you're bent out of shape over paying extra for the certification
that the product is "kosher," just buy another brand which re-
fuses to submit to this extortion. I don't know of any fresh meat,
poultry, or chicken sold in California anyway, which carries this
label, because one can only buy kosher meats from a kosher
butcher. Ditto for eggs and dairy products. No ethnic foods I've
seen have the little "U"--Ever heard of "kosher salsa"?--so what
does it boil down to, some frozen veggies or cereals?

There are plenty of brands which DON'T pay the "kosher tax,"
so buy those. Canucks have it easy. They're not shelling out
$3 billion (C$ 4 billion) annually in "aid" to Israel. Yanks have a
legitimate gripe about that. Canadians don't. You guys up north
are getting off easy. Consider yourselfs lucky.

============================================


SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!
        "Ursus Major"


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If you're bent out of shape over paying extra for the certification
that the product is "kosher," just buy another brand which re-
fuses to submit to this extortion. I don't know of any fresh meat,
poultry, or chicken sold in California anyway, which carries this
label, because one can only buy kosher meats from a kosher
butcher. Ditto for eggs and dairy products. No ethnic foods I've
seen have the little "U"--Ever heard of "kosher salsa"?--so what
does it boil down to, some frozen veggies or cereals?

There are plenty of brands which DON'T pay the "kosher tax,"
so buy those. Canucks have it easy. They're not shelling out
$3 billion (C$ 4 billion) annually in "aid" to Israel. Yanks have a
legitimate gripe about that. Canadians don't. You guys up north
are getting off easy. Consider yourselfs lucky.

============================================


SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!
        "Ursus Major"


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The Euro-American Student Union extends a sincere
invitation to visit its website and look around ...
There are articles, newsbulletins, and other items
of special interest to European students and American
Students of European heritage. As Europe moves
toward political unity, so should all Euro-stock move
toward spiritual unity.

The ESU is By Student and For Students!
Die ESU ist Von Studented und Fuer Studenten!
La ESU, c'est Par les Etudients et Pour les Etudients!

       http://www.nwlink.com/~justin49

Thanks! / Danke! / Merci!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Aug 10 11:14:53 PDT 1996
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duncan  wrote:

>	Ah, Number-One-Son, College-in-America, Oriental-Trash 
>"tyu@ecst.csuchico.edu "  writes:
>
>	
>
>	and shows why survival of the White race is so important. You can
>write all this stuff about Whites, in `their' (well, you know what I mean)
>lands, while a billion spineless dorks like you daren't even THINK such
>thoughts about each other in your own land.
>	In fact, your post illustrates quite nicely the limitations of the
>Orient- conformity. You all look alike, you all think alike.
>	Whites have this ability to incorporate anybody else's good ideas into
>their own ongoing revolution. Ragheads and Chinks are all very well at solving
>puzzles that others (mostly Whites) think up, but because they can't think
>them up for themselves, get hung up on Foreign Devils. So, after a few decades
>of dramatic progress, the shutters go up and everything grinds to a halt until
>the next Aryan migration/Muslim conquest/Ming/Mao dynasty.
>	It is Whites behavioural genes that allows us to exploit the source of
>our creativity, our grade A sensory system. But, these traits are RECESSIVE, so
>if our race ever gets browned-out with that brutalisisng melanin, watch out
>progress.
>	And while you're on the case, Mr. Moto, mentally superimpose a
>China-sized map over Northern Europe and the Mediterranean basin. Notice how
>it takes in that-which-was-Sumer, too?
>	Now go fuck a gnat and see if it notices.
>
>---
>The Sensational
>                D. MacMillan.


Despite your vulgarity, MacMillan, you're sort of on the right track
-- but it has less to do with genes than orientation of a High
Culture. (It's a pity you don't seem to possess the intellect to cope
with Oswald Spengler. If you did, his _Decline of the West_ would
allow you to understand what is going on.

With China as it lynch-pin, the Orient long ago went through the
"culture" phase and passed into that of a Civilization. Who's the
last Chinese philosopher of any note? Mencius! (Buddhism is an
Aryan import. We seem to forget that the language the Gautama
spoke had a lot more in common with modern Lithuanian that
Korean has with Japanese.)
   The copy-the-West (which is also now a civilization, but was a
culture until about 1800; Hegel put the date at 1806: the Battle of
Jena) occurred in different places at different times. Japan was
first and began copy-the-West during the period of rampant imper-
ialism, becoming a rampant imperialistic power until crushed by
Super Imperialism Uncle Sam. China started later and followed both
halves: the British-American (Chang) and Marxist (Mao). The ersatz-
theology is gone, but the Marxist name is preserved to justify author-
itarianism: a collective dynasty, if you like.
   Copy-the-West is most obvious in the supreme artform of the West,
classical music. While Orientals are busy studying the violin, Euro-
stock sinks into the black hole of Electronic-Niggerdom. Half the
students at Salzburg's Mozarteum are Orientals, while increasingly
the string sections of all major orchestras are becoming dominated
by rice eaters. Technology and classical music: the best the West
has to offer. One can't find fault in adopting the superior.
   What should be noted is the stunning failure of Christianity to
make any inroads into the High Civilization of the Orient. Revealed
religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) have fallen on deaf ears.
They are so crude compared to that which evolved from Aryan
enlightenment (there have been three Aryan High Cultures). No
doubt, if the Export-Model of Judaism had not been forced upon
the West, our religion would have been based upon the teachings
of the Western Buddha: Epicurus. Epicureanism was the religion of
the Enlightened few in the 18th century. They called it "Deism," but
it didn't differ one iota from the fundamental teachings of Epicurus.
The leaders in founding the U.S., including Ben Franklin and the
first three presidents were all Epicureans. Jefferson didn't even
bother with the Deist label, rather boldly writing "I too am an
Epicurean!" Real Buddhism is not for the masses. They don't
understand it any more than you understand Spengler. If you
did, you wouldn't be making such foolish and vulgar statements.
   Orientals recognize what is the Best in the West; degenerate
Whites don't -- and you want to blame the Orientals for adopting
what the White spurns. That's an idiotic position.

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SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!
        "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sun Aug 11 08:21:04 PDT 1996
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Calsmnd@ix.netcom.com(Ashdon/Costello) wrote:

>    As sickle-cell anemia threatens Africans, so the WT (white trash)
>gene threatens Europeans. This genetic defect can be seen in too many
>Europeans and those Americans of European descent.  Learn from the
>example in Massachusetts, where a WT carrier allowed his 17 year old
>daughter to live with her 32 year old WT boyfriend in the father's
>house, despite said boyfriend's 43 arrests. This WT bludgeoned to death
>the girl and one of  her friends. This case cannot be blamed on
>minorities, as it happened in a lily-white rural area.
>    WT can happen in any economic class (eg., the Kennedy family, Bill
>Clinton,Pat Buchanan etc.), but it can be identified by certain
>behaviors:
>    *Lack of personal hygene and uncouth behavior.
>    *Obsession and overidentification with professional sports teams.
>    *Public drunkenness, drug use and obnoxious behavior near any      
>    television camera(the COPS syndrome).
>    *Repeated arrests and inability to hold a job.
>    *Sexual promiscuity and repeated inability to use contraception,
>    resulting in unwed mother-, and fatherhood.
>    *Constant obsession with, and hatred of minorities, government,
>    etc., to explain lack of personal responsibilty.
>    Even on the Mayflower, there were crew members pilfering beer
>    from the common supply.  This is the earliest recorded incidence
>    of WT in North America.
>    
>    YOU can help stop the spread of WT, by encouraging persons with WT
>that you know of to be sterilzed.  Explain WT to these unfortunates,
>and their duty not to pass the WT gene to their descendants, and they
>will undoubtedly thank you for your concern and interest!     
>
>                    Thanks,
>                    A/C

Look, every society needs slaves, but it needs slaves of its own
racial stock. WTs were intended to be slaves (read Aristotle about
this). The exceptional non-servile WT is manumitted and raised out
of this milieu. Such is exactly what Jefferson and Lincoln had in
mind. Call it "African Zionism," despite the inherent anachronism.
   With the Romans, WT were formal chattel slaves; afterwards,
it because less obvious with serfdom and a hereditary nobility to
keep WT in its place. Hitler had a very distorted view of the
WT phenomenon: he thought it was race-related. (Besides,
the Germans are a total mixture of Nordic, Alpine, Celtic, Slavic,
and Roman stock (1/3 of present Germany/Austria was part of
the Roman Empire). WT is to be found in all branches of Euro-
stock. Once we get that through our heads, we can commence
to deal with the problem in a sensible manner.

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SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!
        "Ursus Major"


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Calsmnd@ix.netcom.com(Ashdon/Costello) wrote:

>    As sickle-cell anemia threatens Africans, so the WT (white trash)
>gene threatens Europeans. This genetic defect can be seen in too many
>Europeans and those Americans of European descent.  Learn from the
>example in Massachusetts, where a WT carrier allowed his 17 year old
>daughter to live with her 32 year old WT boyfriend in the father's
>house, despite said boyfriend's 43 arrests. This WT bludgeoned to death
>the girl and one of  her friends. This case cannot be blamed on
>minorities, as it happened in a lily-white rural area.
>    WT can happen in any economic class (eg., the Kennedy family, Bill
>Clinton,Pat Buchanan etc.), but it can be identified by certain
>behaviors:
>    *Lack of personal hygene and uncouth behavior.
>    *Obsession and overidentification with professional sports teams.
>    *Public drunkenness, drug use and obnoxious behavior near any      
>    television camera(the COPS syndrome).
>    *Repeated arrests and inability to hold a job.
>    *Sexual promiscuity and repeated inability to use contraception,
>    resulting in unwed mother-, and fatherhood.
>    *Constant obsession with, and hatred of minorities, government,
>    etc., to explain lack of personal responsibilty.
>    Even on the Mayflower, there were crew members pilfering beer
>    from the common supply.  This is the earliest recorded incidence
>    of WT in North America.
>    
>    YOU can help stop the spread of WT, by encouraging persons with WT
>that you know of to be sterilzed.  Explain WT to these unfortunates,
>and their duty not to pass the WT gene to their descendants, and they
>will undoubtedly thank you for your concern and interest!     
>
>                    Thanks,
>                    A/C

Look, every society needs slaves, but it needs slaves of its own
racial stock. WTs were intended to be slaves (read Aristotle about
this). The exceptional non-servile WT is manumitted and raised out
of this milieu. Such is exactly what Jefferson and Lincoln had in
mind. Call it "African Zionism," despite the inherent anachronism.
   With the Romans, WT were formal chattel slaves; afterwards,
it because less obvious with serfdom and a hereditary nobility to
keep WT in its place. Hitler had a very distorted view of the
WT phenomenon: he thought it was race-related. (Besides,
the Germans are a total mixture of Nordic, Alpine, Celtic, Slavic,
and Roman stock (1/3 of present Germany/Austria was part of
the Roman Empire). WT is to be found in all branches of Euro-
stock. Once we get that through our heads, we can commence
to deal with the problem in a sensible manner.

===================================


SEMPER FIDELIS (et Semper Prudens)!
        "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 12 16:42:42 PDT 1996
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an686316@anon.penet.fi wrote:

>
>
>    Hitler saw Russia as being the "Communist jews" rather than the 
>whole country as being enslaved by Communist jews and it was a mistake, 
>and his demise, when he attacked the Slavic Russians.
>    It was the Slavic "subhumans" who ended up actually defeating 
>Hitler (although it is obviously only the jews who have benefitted from 
>it).
>   
>    The Slavic's have suffered, and survived, an oppression worse than 
>what the Nazis in Germany are experiencing now. The controls and laws 
>that have been implemented in Germany (in a lesser extent) are 
>reminiscent of the controls and laws that were implemented by the 
>Communists - where also only one interpretation of history was allowed 
>to exist.
>
>    To attract a larger audience, you (as in white nationalists) really 
>should outwardly welcome all nationalities and not make the same 
>mistake twice.
>
>
>Eva
>
Hitler's anti-Slavic bias was a legacy from his Austrian origins,
where the Slavic element of the multi-national Habsburg state
was in conflict with the ethnic Germans, yet favored by the
Emperor Franz-Josef. If one reads _Mein Kampf_, he sees
that Hitler detested the Habsburgs more than the Jews!

Unlike Mussolini, Hitler was not an intellectual. He was what
is called in German _ein Gefuehlsmensch_: a person whose
actions are determined by his emotions. His education was
poor. The only subjects he did well in were art, history, and
phys. ed. Subjects requiring analytical thought were beyond
him. (These qualities are what caused Freud to call Hitler, "a
woman." Jung would have expressed it as an excess of the
_anima_ and a virtually non-existence of the _animus_.)
   The Wehrmacht was delighted by the reception given the
Germans in the Ukraine, where the Ukrainians had been
subjected to a terror-campaign which made the Holocaust,
even in its Canonical Version look benign. Himmler (whose
personality closely resembled Hitler's) and his off-the-wall
racial theories managed to alienate the very people whose
good office might well have resulted in a German victory.
   The German and Austrian liberation of the Ukraine in WWI
had not been forgotten. Despite Himmler's heavy-handed
methods, tens of thousands of Ukrainians volunteered to serve
in the Waffen-SS. If any survived, it was a miracle.
   It was Stalin (a Georgian and not a Russian at all), who revived
Russian nationalism to fight the Germans. While Churchill was pre-
pared to let the two grind each other to powder, Roosevelt (totally a
pawn of Soviet agents) prepared for the "liberation" of a France,
which had over 40,000 volunteers in the Waffen-SS, which was a
proto-Nato.
   Russia is not exclusively Slavic. There are pronounced Nordic
elements in the population, resulting from the original Rus, the
Varangians, and later Swedish and German stock, acquired when
Peter the Great overran Sweden's Baltic territories. Unlike Stalin,
Peter didn't massacre his POWs. He settled them in Russia, found
them Russian wives and assimilated them into the population. The
German princess, who later became the autocrat (and the only wo-
man to which history has accorded the title "the Great" invited large
numbers of Germans to settle in Russia. (The German autonomous
region in the Ukraine was exterminated by Stalin, who either mur-
dered the residents or packed them off to the far reaches of the
Soviet Empire, like Uzbeckistan.)
   That the Slavs are "White" is incontestible. Their language has
a structure similar in many respects to Latin. What Hitler failed to
realize was that the difficulty with the Slavs was not their racial
composition, but the low-level of prevailing education. Furthermore,
the orientation to the Byanztines tinged the culture with an oriental
cast. (There are Russians who maintain that Russia is NOT a Euro-
pean nations, but rather a unique entity. Indeed, Oswald Spengler
thought Russia would produce the next High Culture, because it
possessed the spiritual depth to do so. First, it had to rid itself of
Western Materialism (of which Marxism was the grossest form).
   There was a spiritual depth to National Socialism also, which in
part accounts for the fact it will not die. (Just as Christianity has
kept the Roman Empire alive, the ersatz-religion Holocausto-
mania is doing the same for the Third Reich.) The full, rich voice
of the Slavic peoples has yet to be heard: as deep as the chorus
at an Orthdox mass. Once that voice comes through loud and clear,
I feel the mistaken idea that the Slavs are "second-class Whites"
will be totally dispelled. The problem was education and cultural
development. What Roman would have thought those barbarians
across the Rhine would one day produce a Goethe and a Mozart?
   To speak of white nationalism while excluding the Slavs is ab-
solutely absurd!


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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john.lane@ukonline.co.uk wrote:

>When Whites went to Africa they found that blacks had 
>not invented the wheel or sails for their boats.
>The ancient Egyptians had African slaves so don`t 
>me any of that old twaddle either.
>                        14-88-Hail The Order!
>                                  Hail David Lane!
>                                               John Lane.

Actually, there's an extant pharoanic stele at what was the once the
Egyptian-Nubian border saying that no Negro male was to be allowed
access, save on official business (with proper identification) or
safely gelded. The Egyptians didn't possess many Negro slaves,
mainly because they opposed doing the castrating themselves, and
the idea of cross-breeding with a Negro was anathema. Therefore,
Negress weren't allowed in--period. Only ambassadors as such who woudl
return, along with eunuchs (a Negro passtime, it seems) who not
present a threat were to be allowed in.


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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nobody@flame.alias.net (Anonymous) wrote:

>Newsgroups:alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,
>alt.politics.correct,alt.politics.usa.misc
>
>Yes, whites are not having (additional) children because of the 
>financial burden. But most non-whites have their housing and 
>medical care government-subsidized/assisted, so these costs as 
>they pertain to raising additional children are not/less a 
>factor in such decisions. Similarly, a much greater proportion
>are receiving food stamps/welfare - for longer time frames. That
>gives financial incentive toward having even more kids for which 
>low-skill jobs cannot now, or ever, be created quickly enough by 
>our economy to employ when adult. The ramifications are obvious,
>once whites become a minority.
>White American, in your desire for economic egalitarianism in the
>last 50 years, you have decreed your own genocide in the next 50
>years.
>
>
>
FIFTY? Aren't we the optomist! Check out Hacker's book: _Two Nations_
.... 70% of all Negro whelps are bastards (vs. 6% among Amer-Asian). %
of Negro females still virgins at age 15? About 30%. Five times as
many Negroes in prison for violent crimes as Whites (on % basis).
Chances of a Negress being raped by a White as opposed to a White
[female] being raped by a Negro: over 1,000 times.

Let's hear it for AFRICAN ZIONISM!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>What's fascinating about Jim Bowery isn't just that he's a kook -- it's the 
>depth and texture and richness of his kookiness.   Neologisms like "erocide"  
>and "deeper cultures" and "apolitical genes" and "extended phenotypes" seem to 
>flow from his fingers like water from a hidden spring.  
>
"Broken sewer main" would be closer to it. What is "erocide" supposed
to mean, "killing lust"? In forming compounds with the Latin verb _oc-
cidere_ (to kill), the combinative form of the noun is used as the
prefix: uxoricide (from ux, uxoris: wife) = wife-murder, fratricide
(from frater, fratris: brother) = to kill one's brother. The same for
patricide, matricide, insecticide, herbacide, and that yummy 1943 cre-
ation of an American lounge-lizard, genocide [lapsing into the Greek,
because "stirpicide" would be to unfamiliar). Is Bowery trying to say
"kill by gnawing away, or eroding"? If so, erocide isn't the neologysm
of the month, it's the malaprop of the month.
   "Deeper culture"? Yeah--about six feet deeper!

  His is a post where one can't tell the _Drammatis Personae_ with-
out a playbill AND program notes. Who's the hero we should cheer,
the villain we should hiss? The northern European AND their (pre-
1933) fellow travellers? Booh-hiss Felix Mendelssohn and Sigmund
Freud, along with Goethe, Disraeli, Mozart, and Copernicus?
   It was the Spanish who bounced the Jews and Muslims out in
1942, and they were Sephardic, speaking a really debased Latin
called "Ladino," and spawing the only Jew who made a significant
contribution to Western Culture before Napoleon: Spinoza. But the
Jews _detested_ Spinoza. Even though they couldn't give him back
his foreskin, they cursed him, anathematized him, tried to bribe him,
denounce him to the Dutch (who didn't care), and tried to kill him.
Spinoza's reaction? He changed his first name from the Hebrew
"Baruch" to the Latin equivalent "Benedictus"--and then went on to
make pan-Theism worthy of consideration.
   The Ashkenazim aren't (racially) Semites at all! They're the _13th
Tribe_, a Turkic people who converted en masse to Judaism in the
Dark Ages (in Europe). (See Arthur Koestler's work on this.) Even
Hitler, who was not exactly supportive of the Jews acknowledged
(in private) there was no such thing as a "Jewish race." It was the
"Jewish mindset" which became his monomania. The supreme arrogance
of calling themselves "The Chosen People!" You can't have TWO
Chosen Peoples, can you? One's got to go. The Aryan was the _Kul-
tererschoepfer_ ("Culture creator"). Probably the basis of Hitler's 
fanatic hatred of the Jews stemmed from their having provided the
basis for Christianity. The idea was kicked around to revive Odinism,
but discarded: Christianity was (still) too embedded in Germany. Be-
sides, there wasn't really anything to go on, except folk tales and
such. The OLDEST runes were from the 4th century a.d., and later
runes added some letters, dropped some out. When the Scanda-
navian outposts converted to Christianity, Latin letters replaced the
runes, which acquired a hocus-pocus aura to them--mainly because
no one knew what they meant. Really, all the Nazis had to go on
was Tacitus (who liked the Germans because of their honesty, but
had to concede they were hopeless barbarians--at the time). As
Hitler told Himmler, who was spending a fortune looking for a Ger-
manic culture, "All you're going to find is that Greece and Rome had
reached the apex of culture, when we were throwing stone axes at
each other!" (Ever see Hitler's model for "Germania," as Berlin was
to be renamed upon being rebuilt? It makes the Rome of Hadrian
look like a provincial village!) One senses that Hitler despised
Christianity and blamed the Jews for allowing to happen in the
first place. (One Marcus Eli Ravage, a Rumanian Jew, writing in the
1920s, advanced that very premise. The Aryan "collective unconscious"
has never been comfortable with this alien mythology, implanted by the
sword. Periodically, it shucked it off, sometimes peacefully. (In the
18th century, neo-Epicureans--calling themselves "Deists," because it
sounded better--secured the independence of the British colonies in
North America and set out to found a New Roman Republic in the New
World. The first three presidents of the U.S. were MANIFESTLY not
Christians, nor was Ben Franklin, the spiritual godfather. Of the
three, Jefferson was the arch-neo-Roman: Exclaiming, "I, too, am an
Epicurean!" In the election of 1800, Jefferson's opponents called him
"the atheist." John Adams, the Federalist candidate didn't like that
smear being used: Adams was as much an Epicurean as Jefferson--
as were Washington and Franklyn.) Sometimes, it was not so peace-
ful, like the Russian pogroms of the 1880s--and of course the ghastly
pogrom under Hitler. (Maybe Bowery hasn't met as many "psychoprenic"
Jews as I have: those openly atheistic--and still claim to be Chosen!)
   Nietzsche was a bit more level headed: he despised Christianity was
much as Hitler (who seems to have been some closet Tantraist), but was
philo-Semitic, because the Jews (although their religion was absurd)
had NOT become Christians (which Nietzsche considered malevolent).

   Were all this not enough, Bowery, castigates both Jews and
"northern" Europeans--carefully avoiding any reference as to where
"northern" Europe starts--and has narry a word so say about _south-
ern_ Europe, including where IT starts. (I can only tell you where the
Northern Italians say it ends: 40km south of Rome. Everything further
south being "Africa."

   After reading all the posts (especially that of "Randy Andy," inde-
fatigable heckler of the _goyim_), one comes away with the feeling
that he's just been through a race-cultural version of the classic
Abbot and Costello routine: "Who's on first, What's on second."
No question as to where Joel and Andy are coming from: they'd post
the whole _Mishna_ as a signature, if they could get away with it. But
Bowery seems straight out of left-field--which Bud and Abbott left out
of their routine? Some reference to George Lincoln Rockwell, the
American _Fuehrer_ gunned down on his way to (or was it from?) a
laundromat, being cut out, and then Bowery referring to AskaNAZIs,
as opposed to the (nice) Sephardics? In Israel, it's the Sephardics
and ortho-loonies, who are mainstay of the slightly-to-the-right-of-
Atilla-the-Hun Likud, while the Euro-jews are almost all pro-Labour.
The Shephards have been known to tell their co-religionists, "Is a
pity Hitler didn't get ALL of you!"
   Finally this escapade Down the Rabbit Hole, ends up with Bowery
referencing "Asartu": an attempt to recreate Odinism (or is it Onan-
ism? No, that never vanished). Well, it's nice to see someone come
along with an alternative to the Hari-Krishna set, but it's hard to
make up a religion based on corrupted oral folklore, comments (in-
correctly translated) of a Roman man-of-letters. Runic inscriptions,
whose meanings still are clear and whose alphabet varies from locale
to locale. Better off to stick with Thomas Carlyle's lecture: "Odin:
the hero as god." (Wonderful work!)
   Joel and Randy Andy doen't bother with anything not tinted with
anti-Semitism. Bowery's collection of malaprops seems to be some
type of rotating sprinker, spewing forth on anyone who comes close
enough. Maybe something got lost in translation?

========================================

MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 15 10:08:22 PDT 1996
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It's pretty obvious: integration hasn't worked and can't work.
If Hacker's book shows anything, it shows that.
What applies to us applies to South Africa.

Solution: Transplant American Negroes to South Africa and
South African Aryans to the U.S. (Exemptions can be made for those
Negroes passing very stiff means and educational level tests. It's up
to the ANC as to which Whites may be allowed to remain in So. Africa.)

It was a horrendous error to ever allow the Negro entry--indentured or
not. What's done is done, now how do we rectify it? Integration isn't
working: no self-respecting White or Negro wants any part of it.

The alternatives seem to be partitioning or race-war ... or a humane
exchange of populations, as was carried out between Greece and
Turkey, following WWI. That shows it can be done fairly, not like what
was done to the ethnic Germans after WWII or to the Jews during the
war, or to the Palestinians to make room for the Zionists.

Just and humane IS possible, if undertaken BEFORE hostilities, which
seem most probable, actually commence. Time is running out on both
sides. Think how different history might have been, if cooler heads
had been running things in 1914.

=================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 19 16:03:16 PDT 1996
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Ira  wrote:

>fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:
---  ---
>
> Yup, she is a bitch and and filth. Then again all germans are filth.
>
> Ira
>
J.S. Bach * W.A. Mozart * Emmanual Kant * Leibnitz * Robert Schumann *
Friedrich Nietzsche * Oswald Spengler * Max Plank * K.F. Gauss * all
the Strausses * W. Roentgen * F.v.Schiller * Gustav Klimt * Beethoven
* Thomas & Heinrich Mann * Johannes Brahms * R. Wagner * Husserl * D.
Bonhoeffer * Meister Eckhardt * A. Duerer * M. Gruenewald * H. Holbein
* W.v.Braun * Carl Orff * W. Busch * W. Heisenberg * W. Gropius * FJ
Haydn * Schubert * Goethe * Konrad Lorenz * Karl Jung * Wilhelm Tell *
ETA Hoffmann * Peter Behrens * T. Billroth * H. Schuetz * F.v.Hayek *
L. Riefenstahl * Max Mueller * O. Daimler-K. Benz * G. Hauptmann * E.
Rommel * K. Barth * M. Niemueller * Albertus Magnus * Hroswitha * The
Grimm Bros. * Messier * A. Schweitzer * F. Duerrenmatt * Lessing * M.
Heidigger *  Hegel * A. Schopenhauer * Max Weber * Otto Hahn *

.... merely the tip of the iceberg, you revolting cretin!

====================================================
"If it's ordered in a Chinese restaurant--it's kosher!"
       ... definative statement in the Babylonian _Mishna_.


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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>Ingrid  wrote:
>
>
>> Just click the send mail/post a reply button and write: Subscibe Zgrams 
>>please and you will receive the world famuos Zgrams the has the world 
>>talking.
>
>Ingrid, why don't you go back to breast-feeding your idiot son and
>masturbating to pictures of Der Fuehrer.
>
>You disgust me, as you disgust the people who you claim as
>"testimonials" on your webpage.
>
>You're a disgrace to humanity.  It's a shame you ever bred.
>
>Go to hell,
>Andrew Mathis
>
>=================================================================
>
>What's new with Frente?--http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html
>
>The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous--http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608
>
>"Peyno derech Hashem"
>--Yeshayahu 40:3
>
========================================================

Andy, do you get spittle all over your monitor, or are you able to
contain it all in a controllable froth? -- Love & kisses, U.M.

"Mit meshuggies, is best staying upwind!"
    -- Rabbi Moishe ben Tsurris, of Lodz and Grossinger's.



From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 19 17:51:57 PDT 1996
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baddab@sprynet.com wrote:

>HOLOCAUST, AMERICAN RESPONSE TO THE
>The systematic persecution of German Jewry began with Adolf Hitler's rise to power in 1933. Facing economic, social, and political 
>oppression, thousands of German Jews wanted to flee the Third Reich but found few countries willing to accept them.

and then the rest of the Gospel According to Nizkor.

You forgot to include the "Nihil Obstadt" (Simon Wiesenthal) and
"Imprimatur" (Deborah Lipstadt) -- multiculturalism being quite
politically correct, ya know ...

=============================================

MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 19 17:51:59 PDT 1996
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ygg@netcom.com (Yggdrasil) wrote:

>Who Stays and Who Goes?
>
>On this newsgroup we advocate secession - the creation of a
>breakaway nation- as the vehicle for escaping liberalism and its
>assorted multicultural attacks on Americans of European ancestry.
>
Dear "Ygg," are you using the royal "we"? A newsgroup is a forum,
where ideas are discussed (that is how I understand it). It's all well
and good to build castles in cyberspace, but what do grand schemes
that exist merely a glowing phosphores have to do with Reality? As
Catherine the Great is reported to have said, "Paper will put up with
whatever foolishness is placed upon it." The same may be said for 
monitors.
    It strikes me that you have been fixated, not only in this but in
all your well-crafted posts with EFFECTS. You give far too little at-
tention, if any, to CAUSE; and THE CAUSE IS GOVERNMENT.
	Drive a stake through the heart of the Vampire on the Potomic,
and these problems would cease to exist. A radical libertarian stance
would end these abuses in one fell swoop. There'd be no public educa-
tion to corrupt, because there'd be no public education. There'd be no
welfare fraud, because there'd be no welfare. One wouldn't have to
worry about neo-Neanderthals invading your neighborhood, because
there'd be no public access for them to get there.
	Had Earl Warren not completed the final folly of turning the Con-
stitution into one large spit-ball, none of this would occurred. When
one can say, with a straight-face, that an individual is engaged in 
Inter-State Commerce, because vehicles with out-of-state license
plates have been seen in his parking lot (as WAS stated in the case
of Lester Maddox), then the Constitution of the United States is
merely an exercise in sophistry. But there is a ray of light in this
otherside Black Hole of Government Usurpation.
    The ONE provision of the Consitution which MAY NOT be amended
is the provision that each state shall elect two Senators. Alaska,
whose total population is less than Long Beach, CA send two members
to the Senate. California, with a population 50 times that of Alaska
also elects two members. One can amend the Constitution to makes the
Moonies the state religion, but NOT on how the House and Senate are
composed. One has to adopt a new constitution, and there is no pro-
vision made for doing that, for "carrying on business" during the time
when there is, literally, no federal government.
   Population is distributed most unevenly in God's Own Funny Farm.
The combined population of the 10 least populated states is about
equal to that of California: 20 Senators vrs. 2. As a whole, we see
that 25% of the population theorectically controls the Senate. Now,
what percentage of the population votes in an off-year election? 50%?
So 12.5% of the eligible voters will determine the composition of the
Senate. But ALL of them? No, large numbers may vote for the candidate
who supports the Leviathan State PROVIDING that candidate LOSES!
SEVEN PERCENT can, if properly distributed and organized, drive a
stake through the heart of the Federal Vampire! The Senate's sole
limitation is the introduction of revenue bills. It may not propose
new taxes, but it can prevent the Feds from spending ONE DIME!
How many bureaucrats are going to show up, if there's no pay check in
the offing? How many are going to stand in line at the (unmanned) Wel-
fare Office to get zip? IT ALL COMES TO A GRINDING HAULT! And it's the
ONE provision of the Constitution which CANNOT be amended!

   A major plus is that Empty America is almost pure White. Another
factor is that it hates the Feds for reasons of its own. Who cares
what those reasons are: promise 'em two hours of Bible Study daily,
promise 'em ANYTHING--just get them to KILL THE DRAGON!
   Now, that's a can-do project. Not easily done, don't take me
wrong. But it CAN be done: every dollop of energy and resource applied
to one and only one thing: getting Dragonslayers elected to the
Senate. That's the Beast's Achilles Heel, and there's lots of room in
the Dakotas and Wyoming for California Whites who have had enough
of Gog in Sacramento and Magog in Washington. The courage, the
samina to do it? That's another question. What's more important: the
restoration of your race-cultural legacy or a shot at a BMW?
   The Whites who settled those territories endured sod houses and un-
predictable behavior from the "Native Americans" to conquer that soil.
Are their descendents too soft, to flabby to endure far less depriva-
tion to win it back? If so, they don't deserve it: _Fortuna fauvet 
fortibus_: fortune favors the strong. 
   One need only come to one obvious conclusion: The Government of
The United States is the ENEMY of the Euro-American. That is the
whole revelation; the rest is mere commentary.

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>john.lane@ukonline.co.uk wrote:
>
>>When Whites went to Africa they found that blacks had 
>>not invented the wheel or sails for their boats.

Welcome to Randy Andy's Disinformation Center. When the
Spaniards arrived in the America's, they found that the by then
extinct Mayan civilization had devised an remarkably accurante
calendar, but so had the builders of Stonehenge. The Incas, on
the otherhand, had managed to forge an empire, possessing
neither the wheel nor writing. Necessity isn't the mother of inven-
tions, it's the mother of accommodations. (The ability to write im-
pressed the Inca as much as gunpowder, and played a major role
in Pizarro's walk-though.)

Civilization emerged in Egypt, Mesopotamia, the Indus River valley and
the Valley of the Yangtse, because the large rivers presented both a
reliable source of water for irregation and a barrier against attack.
(One must remember that at this stage, neither the horse nor camel had
been domesticated. Try crossing the Egyptian dessert on foot!) That
given a certain level of civilization, major discoveries might be made
completely independent of each other should come as no surprise.
Even in very modern times, this occurred: Newton and Leibnitz indepen-
dently discovered the calculus at the same time. (Newton did every- 
thing he could to prevent Leibnitz being given due credit or the mani-
festly superior notation scheme devised by Leibnitz adopted. In many
ways, Sir Issac was a petty, nasty individual.]
   The prerequisites for the development of a High Culture are 1)
stability: political and of the food supply, 2) settlement to a fixed 
area and an end to nomadic existence, and 3) sufficient leisure for
a significant segment of the population to allow the culture grow.
That is what "culture" means: controlled growth.

(To discuss this topic without thoroughly knowing the enormous
contribution made by Oswald Spengler is a virtual waste of time.)

=================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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DHawk666xx@pop.gnn.com (dannie hawkins) wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:11:59 GMT, ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
>wrote:
>
>>Solution: Transplant American Negroes to South Africa and
>>South African Aryans to the U.S. (Exemptions can be made for those
>>Negroes passing very stiff means and educational level tests.
>
>Sounds as tho you're a "levinist" (AR) instead of racist.
>
>Are you?  
>--

A WHAT? "Levinist"? Does that mean one eats bread with yeast in it?
Sorry, but this categorization sounds like it was lifted from "The
Life  of Brian." If one is forced to employ such nomenclature, how
about "non-practising celibate"?

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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A Albu  wrote:

>From : Ovidiu Gules                                 ogules@mb.sorostm.ro
>
>
>>Amongst all nations on Earth, the German one is exemplary. Featured by God
>with an amount of beautifull qualities - discipline spirit, good hard
>working, technical creativity, traditionalism, tenacity etc. - it proved
>them oftenly in history. The same in the periods of glory as in the times
>of grief and oppression, like the ones we are living now.<
>
>
>Germans, unified under Prussian will. In the late 19th century started rejecting the epical 
>values of the western world and embraces a subscribed to a lyrical value system. 
>
>All cultures preponderantly lyrical defy civilization. 
>
>Transhumant Balkan cultures are also defying the western civilization.  Goete admired this trace 
>of the Serbs being himself in rebellion with the civilization. The Orthodox creed mystified 
>Christ.  The Byzantine existence is frozen in time. After a thousand years with out change, the 
>Balkans exist outside the realm of the western civilization. The epic struggle of the western 
>world has no resplendence in it. 
>
>Wants you defy civilization you reduce yourself to a tribal system of values, burning and 
>gassing the unwanted is a acceptable for a civilization ( system base on epical values)
>
>We have to rethink our past. 
>
>A. Albu

_Ex Oriente Lux?_ Oswald Spengler postulated that the next great High
Culture would arise in Russia, because of the untapped depth of the
Slavic soul. This may take some time, but don't forget there was an
era when Mozart's ancestors were throwing stone axes at the Romans,
who were building houses with inside plumbing.

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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What YOU want is totally immaterial. What is NEEDED is 51 radical
libertarian Senators for no more than 72 hours! (Aside from that,
Delilah, how was the entertainment?)

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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alistair_f@mail.global.co.za (Alistair) wrote:

>duncan  wrote:
>
>::>"Dogs bark, cows moo and niggers suck"   Martin Luther King, sr.
>::>                               
>::>"Pop, nobody never got nowheres telling the truth about niggers"
>::>                                         Martin Luther King, jr.
>
>hey, Dunc, that was SO funny.  Here's another one:
>
>
>(rot13 applied) (And if anybody who reads this doesn't know what rot13
>is, find someone who can tell you before you flame me.)
>
>"Url, oebgure, yvfgra hc ! "
>
>"Lrnu, fvf, jung vf vg ?"
>
>"Jryy, V'z yvxr, certanag, ln xabj ?"
>
>"Url fvf, gung'f terng.  Jub'f gur sngure ?"
>
>"Jryy, yvxr, LBH ner "
>
>"Bu, url, gung'f terng.  Lbh fher vg'f abg Qnq, gubhtu ?  Ur'f orra
>shpxvat lbh rirel avtug nf jryy...  Url, vs vg'f n obl, pna jr pnyy vg
>Qhapna ?  Lrnu, gung fbhaqf pbby....  Qhapna ZnpZvyyna"
>
>::>	Arkg jrrx: jung Uvyynel fnvq jura Ovyy fnvq fur zhfg unir pnhtug vg
>::>bss n gbvyrg frng.
>
>
>Arkg jrrx:  jung Qhapna'f nyyrtrq Qnqql fnvq jura ur sbhaq bhg uvf
>fvfgre jnf ylvat, naq vg jnf npghnyyl n qbaxrl jvgu n ovt qvpx gung
>fur unq orra univat n guvat jvgu...  (gung jnf ubj Q. ZnpZvyyna vf
>erfcbafvoyr sbe Znxvat uvfgbel unccra.)

The lyrics to the latest rock top-o'-the-charts? (U.M.)

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"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American
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john.lane@ukonline.co.uk wrote:

>This tyu@est.csuch etc is talking bollocks.
>He is a commie kike.
>                                  14-88-H.T.O.

And a remarkable grammarian! - U.M.
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Coming soon to a bookstore near you:
    "Mozart and Mass-Murder" by J. Goldhagen, Ph.D.


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rich@c2.org (Rich quoting Harold Covington) wrote:

>Harold Covington, who writes under the pseudonym Winton Smith (an
>Orwellian allusion to Orwell), claims to be the authentic heir to George
>Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party, but most Nazis hate his guts. For
>background, see: 
>
> http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/ext.htm
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?orgs/american
>
>In this dispatch, Harry comments on various scandals in the neo-Nazi
>movement.
>
>The home page of the National Appliance is:
>
> http://www.io.com/~arclight/National_Appliance/
>
National APPLIANCE? What is it, a blow-drier? A hot-air
corn-popper? How about a laser-powered alarm, which goes
off when anyone with an IQ above 70 comes within a hundred
meter range?

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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All the KoM candidates gathered on one posting -- which SERIOUSLY
discusses connection between Mel Blanc's _opera omnia_ and "The
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion"?

The envelope, please!

==========================
t-t-that's all folks,
                                  "Ursus Major."
MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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jabowery@netcom.com (Jim Bowery) wrote:

>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>Erocide: The incidental and systemic destruction of a genetic group 
>during a period of encroachment by other genetic groups.

Wait a minute: how can something be "incidental AND systemic" ? Your
neologysm merely reflects a shoddy-to-non-extent education, but your
"definition" is pure bunkum. "Incidental" is lieu of "intentional"?
"Systemic" in lieu of "systematic"? For starters, _mon vieux_ , you're
functionally illiterate. That DOES tend to create confusion!
>
>Erocide's sine qua non is the elevated sexual status of females of the 
>group being destroyed while, correlated with lowered sexual status of males of 
>that same group -- more so than the lowering of the status of males of 
>other, sexually competing, groups.

Did you perloin this from a rejected "Amos 'n' Andy" script? Again,
the simple fact is you're functionally illiterate. _Sine qua non_ is a
Latin expression referring to one, single, specific item upon which
all else depends (e.g. premeditation is the _sine qua non_ when deal-
ing with murder). 

>No female is more revered by the "dream meisters" than is the blond female.
>No male is more reviled by the "dream meisters" than is the blond male.

Tell that to Robert Redford! The blondE female image is utilized as
the stereotype of the sex-kitten: an expensive playtoy (a la Marylin
Monroe or Jane Mansfield). The out-of-the-bottle blonde is rarely, if
ever, used to portray the maternal, breeding-stock image. Sluts, yes;
moms, no. Name one film, ONE, in which Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mans-
field, Veronica Lake, or Jean Harlowe (taking the stereotype back to
the advent of talkies) was EVER shown as a mother, ONE! (Doris Day was
blondish, but she was not a "blonde" in the Hollywood sense. She was
blondish, because her real name was something like Doris Hasenpfeffer-
kochtopf.) Every "Hollywood" blonde was STERILE!

Not so the males (with the sole exception of Tab Hunter, who was a sop
to the homosexual movie buffs). There are scads of films were "dad" is
a blond (no "e," Dummkopf!): John Voight, Redford, Don Sutherland--
a whole host of blond "dads."
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
Bowery, you're so off-the-wall one can't get angry with you. You're
just pathetic, and too far off in the Twighlight Zone to realize it.
I'm not going to take you to task any more. It's too akin to flogging
a dog, because it can't play Chopin. I'll let Randy Andy, who relishes
that type of invective, wallow in it--if he wants to. To mock you for
your ignorance and illiteracy is futile and tinged with sadism. Let's
just end it by saying that if they institute the intellectual equiva-
lent of the Special Olympics, _you'll qualify_ hands down!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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What YOU want is totally immaterial. What is NEEDED is 51 radical
libertarian Senators for no more than 72 hours! (Aside from that,
Delilah, how was the entertainment?)

==================================================

MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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rich@c2.org (Rich quoting Harold Covington) wrote:

>Harold Covington, who writes under the pseudonym Winton Smith (an
>Orwellian allusion to Orwell), claims to be the authentic heir to George
>Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party, but most Nazis hate his guts. For
>background, see: 
>
> http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/ext.htm
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?orgs/american
>
>In this dispatch, Harry comments on various scandals in the neo-Nazi
>movement.
>
>The home page of the National Appliance is:
>
> http://www.io.com/~arclight/National_Appliance/
>
National APPLIANCE? What is it, a blow-drier? A hot-air
corn-popper? How about a laser-powered alarm, which goes
off when anyone with an IQ above 70 comes within a hundred
meter range?

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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rich@c2.org (Rich quoting Harold Covington) wrote:

>Harold Covington, who writes under the pseudonym Winton Smith (an
>Orwellian allusion to Orwell), claims to be the authentic heir to George
>Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party, but most Nazis hate his guts. For
>background, see: 
>
> http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/ext.htm
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?orgs/american
>
>In this dispatch, Harry comments on various scandals in the neo-Nazi
>movement.
>
>The home page of the National Appliance is:
>
> http://www.io.com/~arclight/National_Appliance/
>
National APPLIANCE? What is it, a blow-drier? A hot-air
corn-popper? How about a laser-powered alarm, which goes
off when anyone with an IQ above 70 comes within a hundred
meter range?

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 19 18:07:18 PDT 1996
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rich@c2.org (Rich quoting Harold Covington) wrote:

>Harold Covington, who writes under the pseudonym Winton Smith (an
>Orwellian allusion to Orwell), claims to be the authentic heir to George
>Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party, but most Nazis hate his guts. For
>background, see: 
>
> http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/ext.htm
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?orgs/american
>
>In this dispatch, Harry comments on various scandals in the neo-Nazi
>movement.
>
>The home page of the National Appliance is:
>
> http://www.io.com/~arclight/National_Appliance/
>
National APPLIANCE? What is it, a blow-drier? A hot-air
corn-popper? How about a laser-powered alarm, which goes
off when anyone with an IQ above 70 comes within a hundred
meter range?

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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rich@c2.org (Rich quoting Harold Covington) wrote:

>Harold Covington, who writes under the pseudonym Winton Smith (an
>Orwellian allusion to Orwell), claims to be the authentic heir to George
>Lincoln Rockwell's American Nazi Party, but most Nazis hate his guts. For
>background, see: 
>
> http://www.pafb.af.mil/deomi/ext.htm
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?orgs/american
>
>In this dispatch, Harry comments on various scandals in the neo-Nazi
>movement.
>
>The home page of the National Appliance is:
>
> http://www.io.com/~arclight/National_Appliance/
>
National APPLIANCE? What is it, a blow-drier? A hot-air
corn-popper? How about a laser-powered alarm, which goes
off when anyone with an IQ above 70 comes within a hundred
meter range?

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 19 18:27:21 PDT 1996
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A Albu  wrote:

>From : Ovidiu Gules                                 ogules@mb.sorostm.ro
>
>
>>Amongst all nations on Earth, the German one is exemplary. Featured by God
>with an amount of beautifull qualities - discipline spirit, good hard
>working, technical creativity, traditionalism, tenacity etc. - it proved
>them oftenly in history. The same in the periods of glory as in the times
>of grief and oppression, like the ones we are living now.<
>
>
>Germans, unified under Prussian will. In the late 19th century started rejecting the epical 
>values of the western world and embraces a subscribed to a lyrical value system. 
>
>All cultures preponderantly lyrical defy civilization. 
>
>Transhumant Balkan cultures are also defying the western civilization.  Goete admired this trace 
>of the Serbs being himself in rebellion with the civilization. The Orthodox creed mystified 
>Christ.  The Byzantine existence is frozen in time. After a thousand years with out change, the 
>Balkans exist outside the realm of the western civilization. The epic struggle of the western 
>world has no resplendence in it. 
>
>Wants you defy civilization you reduce yourself to a tribal system of values, burning and 
>gassing the unwanted is a acceptable for a civilization ( system base on epical values)
>
>We have to rethink our past. 
>
>A. Albu

_Ex Oriente Lux?_ Oswald Spengler postulated that the next great High
Culture would arise in Russia, because of the untapped depth of the
Slavic soul. This may take some time, but don't forget there was an
era when Mozart's ancestors were throwing stone axes at the Romans,
who were building houses with inside plumbing.

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 20 08:33:16 PDT 1996
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Rare indeed are the situations where I find myself in agreement with
Joel, but when it comes to Bowery, there's no one else even in the
running, not even Randy Andy. (Just for the record, pesticide is also
a neologysm. While the Romans had flushing toilets, they didn't have
"Raid" in aerosol cans.)
   As for the Khazars not coverting to Judaism, check the writings of
Maimonodies about that: open mouth, insert impoverished education.
Of course Christianity was spread by persuasion--especially by Chatle-
magne among the Saxons.
   Well, having tired of looking into MacLaine's crystals, it's now 
discovered Do-it-Yourself-Odinism. I'm not exactly sure what the folk-
tales of Reseda are, but if you find out, let us know.
   On second thought ... don't bother.

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 20 08:33:17 PDT 1996
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fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister) wrote:

>Pissed Youth (qut@netcom.com) wrote:
>: [Followups-To: alt.flame]
>
>: In <4unf43$h9r@bigboote.WPI.EDU> qwerty@WPI.EDU (Michael David Scott) writes:
>
>: ! >You're my Cleopatra
>: ! 
>: ! Wasn't Cleopatra Egyptian, hence black, and therefore not very pretty?
>
Cleopatra was Queen of Egypt, but she was totally of (ancient) Mace-
donian and Greek stock. She didn't have a drop of Egyptian blood in
her background. "Cleopatra" is an ancient Greek name. Alexander the
Great had a sister named Cleopatra.

The fact that the rulers of a country can be of a totally different
ethnic group than the population is hardly new. The Russian Czars
after Peter the Great had no Slavic blood. They were all Germans.

Franz-Josef I and Carl I were Kings of Hungary, but totally devoid of
Hungarian stock. Dom Pedro was Emperor of Brazil and pure Port-
ueguese. The current royal family of Sweden is descended from a
high-ranking officer in the army of Napoleon.

True, all Whites are one "stirpes": one "common stock, essence," but
there is great diversity within this "family." The Egyptians, on the
otherhand, were a Hammitic peope, not Negroid in the least. (The Ethy-
opian is a cross between the Hammitic Egyptians and Negroid stock.)

If one looks and the copious amounts of tomb and temple paintings that
survive, he will see no Negroes, save as prisoners (who were sometimes
ransomed, and sometimes safely gelded before being put to work).

Sorry to bust your bubble, but Cleo was as lily-white as Liz Taylor,
who last portrayed her in style.

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>While I disagree with Ira...
>
>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>
>>Ira  wrote:
>
>>>fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:
>>---  ---
>>>
>>> Yup, she is a bitch and and filth. Then again all germans are filth.
>>>
>>> Ira
>>>
>>J.S. Bach * W.A. Mozart 
>
>Mozart was insane, a neglectful husband, a drunk.
>
>>* Emmanual Kant *
>
>died a virgin
>
>> Leibnitz * Robert Schumann *
>>Friedrich Nietzsche * Oswald Spengler 
>
>was a racist.
>
>>* Max Plank * K.F. Gauss * all
>>the Strausses * W. Roentgen * F.v.Schiller * Gustav Klimt * Beethoven
>>* Thomas & Heinrich Mann * Johannes Brahms * R. Wagner 
>
>don't even get me started on Wagner...
>
>>* Husserl * D.
>>Bonhoeffer * Meister Eckhardt * A. Duerer * M. Gruenewald * H. Holbein
>>* W.v.Braun 
>
>A Nazi.
>
>>* Carl Orff * W. Busch * W. Heisenberg * W. Gropius * FJ
>>Haydn * Schubert * Goethe * Konrad Lorenz * Karl Jung 
>
>A Nazi sympathizer
>
>>* Wilhelm Tell *
>
>Who apparently found it sporting to shoot apples off his kids' heads.
>
>>ETA Hoffmann * Peter Behrens * T. Billroth * H. Schuetz * F.v.Hayek *
>>L. Riefenstahl 
>
>Nazi filmmaker
>
>>* Max Mueller * O. Daimler-K. Benz * G. Hauptmann * E.
>>Rommel 
>
>Nazi Field Marshall
>
>>* K. Barth * M. Niemueller * Albertus Magnus * Hroswitha * The
>>Grimm Bros. * Messier * A. Schweitzer * F. Duerrenmatt * Lessing * M.
>>Heidigger 
>
>A Nazi.
>
>>*  Hegel * A. Schopenhauer * Max Weber * Otto Hahn *
>
>>.... merely the tip of the iceberg, you revolting cretin!
>
>Indeed.
>
>=================================================================
>
>What's new with Frente?--http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html
>
>The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous--http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608
>
>"Peyno derech Hashem"
>--Yeshayahu 40:3
>
With "Defenders of the Law" like Randy Andy, the world doesn't NEED
          anti-Semites. Bowery's got some stiff competition from this
          foul-mouthed Yid! - U.M.

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         it's _ipso facto_ kosher."

	Yehuddah Nussbaum, Spirtual Advisor at Trump's Taj Mahal.


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bob whitaker  wrote:

>   *Twilight Zone:The Movie* consisted of three stories, but 
>one had to be cancelled becaue of a helicopter accident killing 
>main characters.  They needed a quick, cheap-whot replacement.
>So they had a white man drinking and complaining about Asian 
>immigration into th US.
>    As soon as this man came out of the bar, his world turned 
>into Nazi Germany, and he got what he deserved.  The Nazis got 
>him, the Klan got him, and he died in terror.

-------------------------------------------------------

If you want to know what goes on in Hollywood, ask ,,,
                Marlon Brando!

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"If the standards developed at Nuremberg had been
kept in force and effect, there isn't an American presi-
dent since WWII, who would not have been hanged."
                                       --- N. Chomsky.


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ygg@netcom.com (Yggdrasil) wrote:

>Rabbi Schiller's Racial Separation
>
>Below is an article by Rabbi Mayer Schiller advocating racial 
>separatism.
>
>His argues for peaceful disengagement.
>
>He sees no necessary logical link between the impulse toward
>racial separatism and the impulse to attack other races.
>
>One can take a cynical view that, having seen what is happening
>in dozens of other multi-racial empires around the World, Rabbi
>Schiller understands that Euro-American self-determination is
>inevitable and wants to ensure that the process of
>"disentanglement" is safe for Jews.
>
>But it is only natural that he should seek the safety of his own
>group.
>
>We should do the same. After all, about 14 million Germans and a
>larger number of "Aryan" Russians died in WWII. Not exactly a
>desirable outcome!
>
>But Rabbi Schiller is conceding something that few of his co-
>religionists are willing to concede, namely, that White European
>culture is worth preserving.
>
>Most of his co-religionists share a deep seated bolshevik impulse
>to transform Western man into consumerist domestic cattle.
>
>While it should be possible to convince the black-brown-talmudist
>coalition that we mean them no harm, the problem of whether white 
>liberal elites will peacefully give up their valuable "feeding rights"
>in the White middle class remains. The white liberal elites shrewdly 
>share these feeding rights with their black-brown-talmudist coalition
>partners, thereby providing the leaders of these groups with plenty
>of incentive to provoke violence if any serious effort at separation 
>should occur. 
>
>But allowing for the complexities of the real world, Rabbi Schiller's
>viewpoint should be encouraged.
>
>Yggdrasil-
>     ----------------------------------
> "Bigotry and Racism - Beyond the Cliches"
> by Rabbi Mayer Schiller
>
>Third Way Publications Ltd.
>P.O. Box 1243
>London SW7 3PB
>U.K.
>
>To hate a human being because of his race, religion or
>nationality is a horrible thing. The history of all mankind is
>marred by the outbreak of unspeakable violence against people
>perpetrated, not because of anything they did, but merely because
>of who they were. Bigotry is a vile thing, its prejudgment of a
>man in direct violation of Judeo-Christian morality as well as
>the norms of Western Civilization.
>
>Yet, it is also clear that so much of what makes life worth
>living is to be found in group identity. We are who we are not
>only as individuals, but also as members of larger entities, i.e.
>families, neighborhoods, towns, nations, races, religions and
>civilizations. No man is born into a total vacuum of identity. We
>are the products of genetic, familial and cultural forces. In the
>end meaning is provided solely by these extra forces which
>provide our perceptions and action with conceptual or at 
>least visceral coherence.
>
>Whether these extra personal loyalties be of a metaphysical
>nature deriving their essence from an essentially spiritual (God
>centered universe) or be they merely an inherent part of the
>rational world is a question beyond the confines of this brief
>essay. What is relevant for our purpose is that man needs
>identity, meaning and purpose and becomes confused and
>demoralized without them.
>
>Accordingly it is one of the moral imperatives of our era to
>articulate a philosophy and seek to implement a policy which will
>allow men to realize themselves in a group without falling prey
>to hating or harming other groups. This is far from an easy task.
>Indeed, there are those who would maintain that the enmity which
>often goes hand-in-hand with group identification is inevitable
>and it is best to pursue policies which will inexorably weaken
>those loyalties. It is an alluring position and one to which the
>"respectable" media and politicians of our era are all pledged.
>
>It is, an illusory, immoral and unnatural agenda, however.
>Illusory, for history's testimony is that widely diverse people
>cannot and will not live peacefully together. Immoral, because
>its ultimate results will be the end of the truths and virtues of
>the world's various faiths, races and nations. Unnatural, because
>group identity is a fundamental need of all men.
>
>The way out of our current impasse on matters of race, ethnicity,
>etc. would seem not to lie in the direction of totalitarian
>coercive mixing, but towards voluntary disentanglement by men of
>good intentions.
>
>All any man really desires is a sense of physical security, some 
>orientation towards a life of meaning, a community whose ways are
>familiar and pleasant to him and a place to call his (and his
>peoples') own.
>
>Sadly, today all the above is granted certain groupings but not
>others. Europeans, White people and those attached to traditional
>faiths and lifestyles of the West are told by the powers-that-be
>that they alone among mankind's tribes are forbidden to have or
>even articulate a collective identity.
>
>Perhaps this is due to their having overstepped the proper
>boundaries in the past, or alternatively to their own current
>weakness and gullibility. Whatever the reason none can deny the
>current threat to Western Man. Other peoples define themselves as
>groups, only European Man is forbidden to do this.
>
>A solution to our crisis will be found to the degree that all of
>the world's assorted tribes can say to each other: "You have your
>way of life and your place to live. We wish you well. Now let
>each of us live among our own. We bear you no ill will."
>
>It is in the spirit of separation founded on mutual respect that
>I have attempted on a personal level over the past decade to
>communicate with nationalists (White and Black), to patriots of
>many nations and to committed members of many faiths. My goal has
>been to strip group identity of hatred and the responses I have
>received have been almost uniformly encouraging. I have found
>that when you face a man and say; "Your people are a people with
>a unique identity. They have a right (perhaps an obligation) to
>survive as a people. Yet you must realize there are other peoples
>in the world who have similar yearnings. How can we work this
>out?"  - that most men are willing to act in a positive fashion. 
>
>To sum up, groups should speak to each other as groups (away from
>media terror and self-seeking politicians). Far more important
>than speaking, though, is listening. To hear the other as we
>remain ourselves is our contemporary task.
>
One should take note of the following facts:

1) Rabbi Schiller lives in Monsey, NY: a community of orthodox Jews,
who were forced to flee NYC because being constantly preyed upon
by "minorities," and the indifference of the NYPD to unrelenting
vandalism.

2) Rabbi Schiller is heavily involved with "American Renaissance," a
pro-White group dedicated to preserving the European foundations
of the U.S. AR is also unabashedly pro-White in general and pro-White
in particular.

3) The original article on this topic was much larger than Yigg's
extract, occupying nearly an entire issue of AR. (They have a web-site
but the URL escapes me. Check Web Crawler or Yahoo for address.)

4) Rabbi Schiller made three (3) trips to So. Africa, imploring them
NOT  to commit suicide by abandoning apartheid and turning the govern-
ment over to the ANC. He met with TerreHaute and several die-hard
Afrikaner leaders in an effort to prevent the suicide of that Western
Country. (One has a feeling the last chapter on South Africa has yet
to be written. This author has often suggested a population exchange,
like that between Greece and Turkey after WWI, where Euro-So-Africans
would be brought to the U.S. and American Negroes reestablished on
African soil; thereby, ending a confruntation that will otherwise
never heal.)

5) Rabbi Schiller--who is also a devotee of F.P.Yockey, an American
genius and martyred Spenglarian--has videos and tapes available
through I.H.R., the pricipal Revisionist publisher & publisher of
David Irving's masterful biography on Goebbels (after St. Martin's
Press caved in to Zionist extortion and cancelled publication.
(The IHR, Institute for Historal Revision, also has a web site.)

===========================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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1) Einstein was not deported from Germany. No Jews were deported. They
were encouraged to emigrate, but not deported. (The Jewish cemetary in
Berlin was still operating when the Russians took the city.)

2) Martin Luther was left off because of confessional differences.

3) The German "Nationality" of Wiesenthal has already been shown.

4) Anyone who would describe Mozart was "insane, an irresponsible
partent, and a drunk" is a cretin: a particulary odious subspecies of
vermin, who takes Hollywood exaggerations (intended to be drama
and never presented as a documentary), and simply smears his fecal
villifications on the topic.

You're not called "Randy Andy" without sound reason. You are, bar
none, the most odious, vile, _Untermensch_ to post on this newsgroup.
So vile, that even the other Holohuggers, like Rosenberg, won't make
asses of themselves and come to your defense. You ooze defilement: a
broken sewer-main with access to a modem. You're Kalfka's cockroach
after the transformation. You're an embarrassment to the Jews and a
disgrace to Western civilization. You're _treffe_ incarnate: unclean,
a festering, puss-filled, venom-spewer. A thing fit only for flies to
feed on.
                                    U.M.



From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Wed Aug 21 18:48:35 PDT 1996
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>mgiwer@ix.netcom.com (Matt  Giwer) wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 18 Aug 1996 18:20:56 GMT, ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Ira  wrote:
>
>>>>fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:
>>>---  ---
>>>>
>>>> Yup, she is a bitch and and filth. Then again all germans are filth.
>>>>
>>>> Ira
>>>>
>>>J.S. Bach * W.A. Mozart * Emmanual Kant * Leibnitz * Robert Schumann *
>>>Friedrich Nietzsche * Oswald Spengler * Max Plank * K.F. Gauss * all
>>>the Strausses * W. Roentgen * F.v.Schiller * Gustav Klimt * Beethoven
>>>* Thomas & Heinrich Mann * Johannes Brahms * R. Wagner * Husserl * D.
>>>Bonhoeffer * Meister Eckhardt * A. Duerer * M. Gruenewald * H. Holbein
>>>* W.v.Braun * Carl Orff * W. Busch * W. Heisenberg * W. Gropius * FJ
>>>Haydn * Schubert * Goethe * Konrad Lorenz * Karl Jung * Wilhelm Tell *
>>>ETA Hoffmann * Peter Behrens * T. Billroth * H. Schuetz * F.v.Hayek *
>>>L. Riefenstahl * Max Mueller * O. Daimler-K. Benz * G. Hauptmann * E.
>>>Rommel * K. Barth * M. Niemueller * Albertus Magnus * Hroswitha * The
>>>Grimm Bros. * Messier * A. Schweitzer * F. Duerrenmatt * Lessing * M.
>>>Heidigger *  Hegel * A. Schopenhauer * Max Weber * Otto Hahn *
>
>>>.... merely the tip of the iceberg, you revolting cretin!
>
>>	To get to the iceberg, Wiesel, Wiesenthal, Golda Meyer despite her
>>spelling and pronunciation along with most of the founders and
>>"fathers" of Israel.  And if they were not "German" then just what
>>were they?  The best of Israel is if German origin.  
>
>Wiesel was born in Transylvanian Romania, Wiesenthal may have been
>German by birth, but Meir was born in Ukraine and raised in America.
>
>They were Semites all--Askenazic Jews and NOT Germans.
>
>>	
>>	Perhaps that explains their treatment of Palestinians.  
>
>You mean to imply that all  Germans are genocidal?
>
>>	I do not notice Einstein in that list, Martin Luther else Rome is
>>right, a fellow name Gutenberg without whom we would not be here, in
>>the US Steinmetz (AC electricity).
>
>Einstein was deported from Germany and died an American citizen and
>was  a Jew.
>
>Luther was an antisemite pig.
>
>Gutenberg was a century or two after the Chinese on moveable type.
>
>>	But then an inclusive list would take forever and if it were honest
>>the absurdity of the claim would be obvious.  
>
>Of course.

I purposely left off German Jews, because Randy Andy and others of his
ilk, would have claimed they weren't Germans, but rather Jews (which
is what the Nazis DID claim!) Amazing how rabid castigators of the
goyim end up adopting the same position as "demonic" National
Socialists. (Randy Andy do doubt dismisses the Hebron massacre as a
mere incident, much as Goebbels described _Kristallnacht_ as a
"spontaneous expression of outrage." When you get right down to it,
Randy Andy and Goebbels are cut from the same piece of cloth.
	Among those Germans "of the Mosaic confession" (as they preferred
to put it) or descended from a Jewish background, who would have been
outraged if one called them Jews rather than Germans were,

Felix Mendelssohn (grandson of Moses Mendelssohn, baptized a Lutheran
and quite sincere in the faith the whole Mendelssohn family converted
to, adding "Bartholdy" to the name, to distinguish themselves from the
other family members who remained "in the Mosaic confession.")
Sigmund Freud, Gustav Mahler, Arthur Schnitzler, the Wittgenstein
family--all of them, Stefan Zweig, Alfred (not Albert) Einstein (Mo-
zart's great biographer), Riemann, Tausig ... and the list goes on ...

For your information, Andy, Wiesenthal (meaning "valley of the
weasels": _nomen est omen_) was born in the area which was an integral
part of Austria-Hungary before WWI and his primary language was either
German or Yiddish. The Habsburgs considered Judaism a religion, not a
nationality (how naive !). Jews who spoke German or Yiddish, which is
a German dialect--like Scots to English--were classified as "German"
by nationality, which made people like Hitler livid. Hassidim their
"drag" classified as "German"? It became a monomania with the resident
of the hostel, pastel postcards sold quite well.

===============================================
"In keeping with the dictum, 'There's no business like _Shoah_
business,' the important thing is not whether is was impossible,
but rather how many times daily it occurred."
       -- Aaron Fiknelstein, professional "Holocaust" survivor,
          and holder of the record of having been interned in the
          largest number of "extermination" centers--at the same time.




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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>
>>I purposely left off German Jews, because Randy Andy and others of his
>>ilk, would have claimed they weren't Germans, but rather Jews (which
>>is what the Nazis DID claim!) Amazing how rabid castigators of the
>>goyim end up adopting the same position as "demonic" National
>>Socialists. (Randy Andy do doubt dismisses the Hebron massacre as a
>>mere incident, much as Goebbels described _Kristallnacht_ as a
>>"spontaneous expression of outrage." When you get right down to it,
>>Randy Andy and Goebbels are cut from the same piece of cloth.
>
>Face facts, anonymous coward; Jews are not Germans. 

Here comes the Sewer Leak and spells it out:

JEWS ARE NOT GERMANS;

therefore, they are an ALIEN NATIONALITY
AND NOT A RELIGION AT ALL! RANDY ANDY AGREES 100% WITH THE NAZIS!
			RANDY
			ANDY
			IS  A
			NAZI!!
He stands proven and condemned by his own posting: "Jews aren't
Germans!" Why didn't you add the rest of it, you Hiterite Sewer-Leak:
"The Jews are Germany's Misfortune! Get out, alien! You're not a
German. Why are you living in Germany, paracite? How dare you sit
in judgement on REAL Germans?"

RANDY ANDY ENDORCES THE NUREMBERG LAWS!
RANDY ANDY ADMITS, THE JEWS ARE NOT GERMANS!

				RANDY
				ANDY
				IS A NAZI!

Trying to make Jews look odious and vile, with his moronic postings:
Mozart's a drunk! MOZART: THE VOICE OF GOD! Ol' fecal-fingers has been
exposed for what he is, an agent-provocatuer, attempting to defile the

Jews by making them appear irrational, venom-spewing vermin.

	You've been exposed now, so you can take your Brown Shirt out of
the closet. O, I forgot, cockroaches don't wear shirts!

===================
"You don't talk with a Randy Andy; you FLUSH it!"
                            -- Hyman Mandelbaum: Torah scribe & pundit


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>
>>1) Einstein was not deported from Germany. No Jews were deported. They
>>were encouraged to emigrate, but not deported. (The Jewish cemetary in
>>Berlin was still operating when the Russians took the city.)
>
>Jews were very much deported, most notably on the night of
>Kristallnacht.

[Right: on the NIGHT of 9-Nov-38, Goebbels' agents (_Kristallnacht_
Goebbels' stunt. Himmler was appalled by it, calling it, "a vicious,
vile, pogrom." Goering quoted Talleyrand: "It's worse than a crime.
It's a mistake." Hitler loved to see his henchmen quaralling among
themselves; it made him the sole agent for keeping everything to-
gether. So, on the same night, they rounded up all the Jews in Ger-
many (which also included Austria & the Sudetenland)and deported
them to ... to where, Miami?
THERE'S A GOOD YIDDISH WORD FOR YOU, RANDY ANDY, AND
THE WORD IS "MESHUGGENEH" (phonetically translitterated)!

Both Cal Tech and the Princeton Institute for Advanced Studies had
been trying for years to get Einstein to move. He was comfortable in
Berlin, where he had his own observatory. After the Reichstag fire,
he decided that things would only get worse, not better, and took
Princeton up on its offer (mainly because no mandatory teaching was
involved). The Director asked AE if $16k per year would be sufficient
(= about $150k in today's debased dollars). AE said is was far too ex-
cessive and suggested $5k as tops. Princeton said it couldn't have a
man of his paid LESS than staff with nowhere near his reputation. He
had to accept at least $16k. Einstein agreed, and the family moved to
N.J. in 1933--long before Hitler's dictatorship was set in stone.

Starting in 1943, Jews in Germany were subject to relocation (still
inside the "Grossdeutsches Reich" as it was called). Theresien-
stadt was billed as a "model relocation center": replete with its own
symphony orchestra. Jews married to Germans were exempt from
relocation, so pressure was put on Germans to divorce their Jewish
spouces. This led to full-scale RIOTS in Berlin and other cities, by
"Hitler's Willing Executioners" who had no intention of divorcing
their Jewish spouses. (The government backed down.)
>
>>2) Martin Luther was left off because of confessional differences.
>
>>3) The German "Nationality" of Wiesenthal has already been shown.
>
>I never denied he was a German national; ethnically, he's a Jew.

You most certainly DID deny it, specifically mentioning "Rumania."
He was born a subject of Franz-Josef, and classified as "German"
by nationality. The Habsburgs considered Judaism a religion. You
and the Nazis consider it a race. Let's face it, Randy Andy: You're
a NAZI!

>>4) Anyone who would describe Mozart was "insane, an irresponsible
>>partent, and a drunk" is a cretin: a particulary odious subspecies of
>>vermin, who takes Hollywood exaggerations (intended to be drama
>>and never presented as a documentary), and simply smears his fecal
>>villifications on the topic.
>
>"Amadeus" doesn't depict him this way.

Bull shit, you lying crud! Mozart's youngest son was
only a few months old when Mozart died. (That's the reason
Consatze was a Baden-bei-Wien: recovering from the effects
of a rather hard delivery.) His other son was only a couple years
old. (The other children had died in infancy, which was all-too-common
in the 18th century.) HOW DARE YOU DEFILE THE CONSUMMATE
GENIUS OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION! A WORM LIKE YOU!! As a Yiddish
_Babushka_ would put it: "You should bite your tongue!"

>
>>You're not called "Randy Andy" without sound reason. You are, bar
>>none, the most odious, vile, _Untermensch_ to post on this newsgroup.
>>So vile, that even the other Holohuggers, like Rosenberg, won't make
>>asses of themselves and come to your defense. You ooze defilement: a
>>broken sewer-main with access to a modem. You're Kalfka's cockroach
>>after the transformation. You're an embarrassment to the Jews and a
>>disgrace to Western civilization. You're _treffe_ incarnate: unclean,
>>a festering, puss-filled, venom-spewer. A thing fit only for flies to
>>feed on.
>
>1) You're the only one calling me "Randy Andy"
>2) Untermensch was Nazi terminology

_Untermensch_: behaving in a sub-human manner: low-life, gangster,
scum (all of which apply to you) has been a valid German word for
centuries. The Nazis also used words like, _Haus, Arm, Hand, Haar,
Film, and Musik_. In your sicko, paranoid dementia, you think that
anything the Hitler dicatorship was Satanic, simply because it was
done. They also praised Carl Orff's _Carmina Burana_ to the skies,
promoting performances of it at every opportunity.

>3) Kafka WAS the cockroach; he was also a Jew, like me.

It's obvious you've never read _Die Metamorphose_. The central theme
is a surreal depiction of low self-esteem. Nothing indicates Kafka had
a low self-esteem. Quite the contrary, he was active in the Zionist
movement, but died from T.B. He was also a master of German prose,
which is the only language he used.

If YOU accept the blanket villification the Nazis accorded the Jews
(although even Junius Streicher, who was the worst, was never that
gross) it's simply because you ARE a self-hating Jew, who identifies
with all the lunacy of a bygone age replete with lunatics. You wanna
see an Arch-Nazi, Randy Andy, more rabid than one who ever wore
a brown shirt or an SS uniform? LOOK IN THE MIRROR!

>4) Why don't you identify yourself, coward?

To be harassed by a nut-case, self-loathing Jew? To those rational,
individuals who are white-nationalists (actually white-particularists)
vitally concerned with restoring the integrity of and preserving
Western Civilization, some of whom are Jewish (and one of which is
both an Orthodox Rabbi and teacher at a Yeshiva), I'm not only known,
we've exchanged telephone and fax numbers. I don't, however, write
my name and phone number on the walls in public toilets, which is iso-
morphic to your demented state and demeanor. (Why don't you write
Daniel Barenboim, General Music Director of the Chicago Symphony,
that he's a vile Nazi and traitor to his Jewish heritage, because of
the stunning production of Wagner's _Ring_ he recently mounted in
Berlin. You can get the address of the Chicago Symphony from the
 telephone company. No doubt Maestro Barenboim's reaction would
be the same as everybody else's when confronted with your up-chucks:
"Who the hell's this nut-case? " -- and then consign your castigation
where it, and its the author belong: in a trash basket!)


>=================================================================
>
>What's new with Frente?--http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html
>
>The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous--http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608
>
> "Feh! a meshuggeh shemiel is a meshugge shemiel! Don't waste your time with dreck!"
>--Yeshayahu 40:3 (almost, but only by interpretation).
>
====================================================

MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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Subject: Re: RANDY ANDY (MATHIS) EXPOSED AS NAZI! States, "Jews are NOT Germans"!!
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>
>>fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:
>
>>>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>>>
>>>>I purposely left off German Jews, because Randy Andy and others of his
>>>>ilk, would have claimed they weren't Germans, but rather Jews (which
>>>>is what the Nazis DID claim!) Amazing how rabid castigators of the
>>>>goyim end up adopting the same position as "demonic" National
>>>>Socialists. (Randy Andy do doubt dismisses the Hebron massacre as a
>>>>mere incident, much as Goebbels described _Kristallnacht_ as a
>>>>"spontaneous expression of outrage." When you get right down to it,
>>>>Randy Andy and Goebbels are cut from the same piece of cloth.
>>>
>>>Face facts, anonymous coward; Jews are not Germans. 
>
>>Here comes the Sewer Leak and spells it out:
>
>>JEWS ARE NOT GERMANS;
>
>>therefore, they are an ALIEN NATIONALITY
>>AND NOT A RELIGION AT ALL! RANDY ANDY AGREES 100% WITH THE NAZIS!
>>			RANDY
>>			ANDY
>>			IS  A
>>			NAZI!!
>
>yawn.
>
>Jews living in Germany in 1930's were: Jewish religion, Ashkenazic
>ethnicity, German nationalisty.
>
>There is no Jewish nationality.
>
>>He stands proven and condemned by his own posting: "Jews aren't
>>Germans!" Why didn't you add the rest of it, you Hiterite Sewer-Leak:
>>"The Jews are Germany's Misfortune! Get out, alien! You're not a
>>German. Why are you living in Germany, paracite? How dare you sit
>>in judgement on REAL Germans?"
>
>>RANDY ANDY ENDORCES THE NUREMBERG LAWS!
>>RANDY ANDY ADMITS, THE JEWS ARE NOT GERMANS!
>
>>				RANDY
>>				ANDY
>>				IS A NAZI!
>
>>Trying to make Jews look odious and vile, with his moronic postings:
>>Mozart's a drunk! MOZART: THE VOICE OF GOD! Ol' fecal-fingers has been
>>exposed for what he is, an agent-provocatuer, attempting to defile the
>
>>Jews by making them appear irrational, venom-spewing vermin.
>
>>	You've been exposed now, so you can take your Brown Shirt out of
>>the closet. O, I forgot, cockroaches don't wear shirts!
>
>>===================
>>"You don't talk with a Randy Andy; you FLUSH it!"
>>                            -- Hyman Mandelbaum: Torah scribe & pundit
>
>
>From now on, I shall be ignoring you, since you're such a vile coward
>as to deny the Holocaust and label Jews as Nazis, and also not to
>supply your real name.
>
>Write me when you grow some gonads, youngster.
>
>=================================================================
>
>What's new with Frente?--http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html
>
>The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous--http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608
>
>"Peyno derech Hashem"
>--Yeshayahu 40:3
>
"Pasatrmi on rye, hold the mustard!"
--Greenblatt's Order # 40.3


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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>
>>fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:
>
>>>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>>>
>>>>I purposely left off German Jews, because Randy Andy and others of his
>>>>ilk, would have claimed they weren't Germans, but rather Jews (which
>>>>is what the Nazis DID claim!) Amazing how rabid castigators of the
>>>>goyim end up adopting the same position as "demonic" National
>>>>Socialists. (Randy Andy do doubt dismisses the Hebron massacre as a
>>>>mere incident, much as Goebbels described _Kristallnacht_ as a
>>>>"spontaneous expression of outrage." When you get right down to it,
>>>>Randy Andy and Goebbels are cut from the same piece of cloth.
>>>
>>>Face facts, anonymous coward; Jews are not Germans. 
>
>>Here comes the Sewer Leak and spells it out:
>
>>JEWS ARE NOT GERMANS;
>
>>therefore, they are an ALIEN NATIONALITY
>>AND NOT A RELIGION AT ALL! RANDY ANDY AGREES 100% WITH THE NAZIS!
>>			RANDY
>>			ANDY
>>			IS  A
>>			NAZI!!
>
>yawn.
>
>Jews living in Germany in 1930's were: Jewish religion, Ashkenazic
>ethnicity, German nationalisty.
>
>There is no Jewish nationality.
>
>>He stands proven and condemned by his own posting: "Jews aren't
>>Germans!" Why didn't you add the rest of it, you Hiterite Sewer-Leak:
>>"The Jews are Germany's Misfortune! Get out, alien! You're not a
>>German. Why are you living in Germany, paracite? How dare you sit
>>in judgement on REAL Germans?"
>
>>RANDY ANDY ENDORCES THE NUREMBERG LAWS!
>>RANDY ANDY ADMITS, THE JEWS ARE NOT GERMANS!
>
>>				RANDY
>>				ANDY
>>				IS A NAZI!
>
>>Trying to make Jews look odious and vile, with his moronic postings:
>>Mozart's a drunk! MOZART: THE VOICE OF GOD! Ol' fecal-fingers has been
>>exposed for what he is, an agent-provocatuer, attempting to defile the
>
>>Jews by making them appear irrational, venom-spewing vermin.
>
>>	You've been exposed now, so you can take your Brown Shirt out of
>>the closet. O, I forgot, cockroaches don't wear shirts!
>
>>===================
>>"You don't talk with a Randy Andy; you FLUSH it!"
>>                            -- Hyman Mandelbaum: Torah scribe & pundit
>
>
>From now on, I shall be ignoring you, since you're such a vile coward
>as to deny the Holocaust and label Jews as Nazis, and also not to
>supply your real name.
>
>Write me when you grow some gonads, youngster.
>
>=================================================================
>
>What's new with Frente?--http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html
>
>The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous--http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608
>
>"Peyno derech Hashem"
>--Yeshayahu 40:3
>
"Pasatrmi on rye, hold the mustard!"
--Greenblatt's Order # 40.3


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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>
>>fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:
>
>>>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>>>
>>>>I purposely left off German Jews, because Randy Andy and others of his
>>>>ilk, would have claimed they weren't Germans, but rather Jews (which
>>>>is what the Nazis DID claim!) Amazing how rabid castigators of the
>>>>goyim end up adopting the same position as "demonic" National
>>>>Socialists. (Randy Andy do doubt dismisses the Hebron massacre as a
>>>>mere incident, much as Goebbels described _Kristallnacht_ as a
>>>>"spontaneous expression of outrage." When you get right down to it,
>>>>Randy Andy and Goebbels are cut from the same piece of cloth.
>>>
>>>Face facts, anonymous coward; Jews are not Germans. 
>
>>Here comes the Sewer Leak and spells it out:
>
>>JEWS ARE NOT GERMANS;
>
>>therefore, they are an ALIEN NATIONALITY
>>AND NOT A RELIGION AT ALL! RANDY ANDY AGREES 100% WITH THE NAZIS!
>>			RANDY
>>			ANDY
>>			IS  A
>>			NAZI!!
>
>yawn.
>
>Jews living in Germany in 1930's were: Jewish religion, Ashkenazic
>ethnicity, German nationalisty.
>
>There is no Jewish nationality.
>
>>He stands proven and condemned by his own posting: "Jews aren't
>>Germans!" Why didn't you add the rest of it, you Hiterite Sewer-Leak:
>>"The Jews are Germany's Misfortune! Get out, alien! You're not a
>>German. Why are you living in Germany, paracite? How dare you sit
>>in judgement on REAL Germans?"
>
>>RANDY ANDY ENDORCES THE NUREMBERG LAWS!
>>RANDY ANDY ADMITS, THE JEWS ARE NOT GERMANS!
>
>>				RANDY
>>				ANDY
>>				IS A NAZI!
>
>>Trying to make Jews look odious and vile, with his moronic postings:
>>Mozart's a drunk! MOZART: THE VOICE OF GOD! Ol' fecal-fingers has been
>>exposed for what he is, an agent-provocatuer, attempting to defile the
>
>>Jews by making them appear irrational, venom-spewing vermin.
>
>>	You've been exposed now, so you can take your Brown Shirt out of
>>the closet. O, I forgot, cockroaches don't wear shirts!
>
>>===================
>>"You don't talk with a Randy Andy; you FLUSH it!"
>>                            -- Hyman Mandelbaum: Torah scribe & pundit
>
>
>From now on, I shall be ignoring you, since you're such a vile coward
>as to deny the Holocaust and label Jews as Nazis, and also not to
>supply your real name.
>
>Write me when you grow some gonads, youngster.
>
>=================================================================
>
>What's new with Frente?--http://www.nj.com/maxwells/july96/frente.html
>
>The Homepage that made Milwaukee famous--http://pages.nyu.edu/~aem0608
>
>"Peyno derech Hashem"
>--Yeshayahu 40:3
>
"Pasatrmi on rye, hold the mustard!"
--Greenblatt's Order # 40.3


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slking@husc7.harvard.edu (Stewart King) wrote:

>dannie hawkins (adruid@netdoor.com) wrote:
>>On Tue, 13 Aug 1996 10:11:59 GMT, ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
>>wrote:
>
>>>(Exemptions can be made for those Negroes passing very stiff
>>>means and educational level tests.
>
>: Upps... What's This?  Think you can bring yourself to explain???
>: Forget the "livinist" crap and get to the bottom line.
>
>Don't bother the big dipper, he's on a roll right now.
>
>
>Stewart.

(I'm not sure what Stewart's comment is supposed to mean.
the term is usually applied to someone in Las Vegas, who has
thrown four or five sevens in a row. But then does anyone know
what Stewart's comments mean -- ever?)

Sure, it can be explained--and with a far less esoteric term than
"levinist" (small "L" yet, indicating something to do with yeast)!
Some foundation IS necessary, and I can think of no better one
than Andrew Hacker's _Two Nations: Black and White, Seperate,
Hostile, Unequal_. The book spent nearly a year on the NY Times
best-seller list (and then was updated to include the O.J. "trial").
It's perhaps presumptuous to expect a regular reader of Metzger's
WAR (the "Altantic Monthly" for rednecks who find the KKK too
moderate) to be familiar with Prof. Hacker's book. (Hacker avoids
use of his academic title and the fact he's a Negro, in hope of de-
personalizing his material.) The facts are as grim as the title--and
the situation's getting worse, not better. It's pointing toward  a
race-war, which this on-a-roll-Bear would like to avoid. (But Metzger
would probably welcome!)
   One solution might be a partitioning: an implosian of the American
Empire, like that of the Soviet Empire. The case for that has been ad-
vocated by such diverse advocates as Rabbi Meyer Schiller (or the AR
set) and (imam?) Farrakhan.  Another possibility is to implement a
solution which DID work between Greece and Turkey after WWI: a peace-
ful population exchange. The ANC doesn't want the Anglo-Dutch presence
in South Africa. It looks like that country is also heading for a race
war. The indications are that such is the situation here. So ...
exploring a solution which will avoid mass slaughter seems worth the
effort--at least in my arrogant opinion.

Clearly, there are those Negroes, who by mental outlook, education,
and system of values are Euro-Americans in all but color. Now, one is
forced to throw another name out to the Great Unlettered: F. P. Yockey
Among Yockey's myriad contributions is the delineation of Race as,
first and foremost, a state of mind: you are with whom you identify.
For that reason, exceptions have to be made--because there are "dusky
Europeans" in the U.S. (I don't think Leontyne Price, for example,
would find her performance as _Tosca_ would do much to excite either
Negroes transplanted from the Bronx or native Xosha stock in a recon-
stituted South Africa, but--dark Chocolate or no--her rendering of
Puccini's heroine is a major event amoung the 5-6% of the Eurostock
with any affinity for High Culture of the West.

Does that explain it? (And please don't bother telling me that I'm an
elitist. The only exection I would take to that is your not preceeding
it by "ultra" and spelling it with a small "E.")

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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rcgraves@ix.netcom.com (Rich Graves) wrote:
Do you put any credence in any book written about Hitler and National 
Socialism with the following stats:
>
>From Konrad Heider, *Der Führer*, Ralph Manheim, trans. Boston: Houghton
>Mifflin, 1944. Pages 5-9.
>
If so, perhaps you'd be interested in some OCEAN-front property ... in
Fargo, ND!

Why don't you post the whole Protocols? Henry Ford certainly thought
they were authentic. They were serialized in his newspaper. Put them
up and let the reader decide how fake they are.

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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Randy Andy, with a little work, could turn
Sielberg and Eisner into anti-Semites or
Unitarian converts.


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>Kevin Alfred Strom  wrote:
>
>>Ursus Major wrote:
>>> ...
>>> 
>>> Here comes the Sewer Leak and spells it out:
>>> 
>>> JEWS ARE NOT GERMANS;
>>> 
>>> therefore, they are an ALIEN NATIONALITY
>>> AND NOT A RELIGION AT ALL! RANDY ANDY AGREES 100% WITH THE NAZIS!...
>>> Trying to make Jews look odious and vile, with his moronic postings:
>>> Mozart's a drunk! MOZART: THE VOICE OF GOD! Ol' fecal-fingers has been
>>> exposed for what he is, an agent-provocatuer, attempting to defile the
>>> 
>>> Jews by making them appear irrational, venom-spewing vermin.
>>> ...
>
>
>>I too have often wondered at the utility of Andrew Mathis to his 
>>professed Jewish cause.
>
>>After all, he openly advocates the killing, rape, torture, and 
>>imprisonment of those with whome he disagrees, and his posts often 
>>consist of obscene one-liners tacked on the end of long documents with 
>>which he purportedly disagrees. He may indeed be influencing readers to 
>>consider again the merits of a case made so poorly, and with such obvious 
>>calls to violence and other methods of "silencing" his putative 
>>opposition he is not likely to attract many to his side.
>
>Please cite some examples of my advocation of the killing, torture and
>especially the RAPE of my enemies.  Or, for that matter, imprisonment,
>except where they break the law?
>
>You, Kevin, serve a despicable excuse for a human being, carrying
>forth the cause of Adolf Hitler in my country.  For this, you AND Dr.
>Twitchy should rightfully be tried for sedition and/or treason.
>
>Andrew Mathis
>
The Constitution of the United States of America wisely defines trea-
son as waging war against the United States or giving aid and comfort
to the enemy in wartime. The last time the U.S. tried as sedition
trial was under the dicatorship of Roosevelt II -- and that blew up in
in the government's face. As far as trials go, Norm Chomsky (who ain't
no Episcopalian) put in rather succinctly: "If the standards applied
at Nuremburg had been evenly upheld, there isn't an American pres-
ident since the end of WWII, who would not have been HANGED!"

---------- Deuteronomy xx 15-17 -------------------------

"rather, you shall utterly destroy all that breathes":
Divine Mandate for Genocide -- but only of  _goyem_!


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Should not Rabbi Meyer Schiller, who is closely associated with the
White Nationalist _American Renaissance_ and has done more to
advance the preservation of the European essence of the United
States than 99+% than the blah-blah posters PROVED his dedication
to White Nationalism?
   Rabbi Schiller made three--t-h-r-e-e--trips to South Africa, im-
ploring them NOT to commit suicide! How many of the big-mouth, big-
guns around here have done anything? If Rabbi Schiller, not only a Jew
but a teacher at a yeshva, is not a White Nationalist, then there is
no such thing as a White Nationalist!!

(P.S. It should also be recalled that the foremost classist of recent
times was the late Moses Hadis, and Walter Kaufmann was, without a
doubt, the foremost scholar on and promoter of Friedrich Nietzsche in
the English-speaking world. The preemiminent conductors of the operas
of Richard Wagner are James Levine and Daniel Barenboim. Need I
write more?)

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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It should be noted that until the infamy of the Warren Court, nearly
every state had laws prohibiting inter-racial marriages. Enlistened
men in the armed forces could not get married without permission of
theirc.o. (preventing an invasion of gooks, which took place after
Warren-the-Damned), and blood tests were required.

The right of the state to enforce involuntary sterlization to prevent 
hereditary diseases was unheld by the U.S. Supreme Court, none
other than Oliver Wendell Holmes writing, "Three generations of
idiots is ENOUGH! (Involuntary sterilization was often part of the
punishment for sexual crimes, and totally Constitutional.) What one
tends to ignore is that, barring rape, it is the FEMALE who is respon-
sible for genentic decay. Modern medicine has made sterilization of
the female far simpler and risk-free, which was not true before.

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) wrote:

>In article <4unjdr$m3i@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA>, Laura Finsten  wrote:
>
>> fische11@ix.netcom.com(some bizzare guy on the internet) wrote:
>>
>> I disagree with you that racism itself is instinctual.  Children
>> must be taught to fear people, for the most part.  Children must
>> be taught that certain categories of people are not to be trusted,
>> are not as good as they are.  Racism may be built on generalised
>> instincts, but in my opinion it is very much a learned view of
>> the world.

   Children have an innate xenophobia as a protective instinct. The
author takes it as a given--an axiom or item of religious dogma--that
"racism" (which no one bothers to define) is "bad" and/or pathologic.
Other than Owellian Goodthink, what's the basis for this? Is limiting
one's social activities to kith and kin--and by extention the _Volk_
and by further extention the race (a bad term: better "stirps" or
"stirpes") _ipso facto_ wrong/evil/bad/pathelogic? Why?
	If I happen to be Euro-stock and limit myself exclusively to music
of European origin--Bach, Mozart, Debussy, Tchaikovsky--where's the
_malum_? If pondering the philosophical questions raised by the Greeks
to the exlusion of other schools, where's the _malum_? If racisim is a
fetish, so what? Credence is religions expounding the manifestly im-
possible isn't a fetish? Reverence for a manifestly sado-masochistic
image--an all but naked male affixed to a torture devise and oozing
blood--ISN'T fetishistic? Come now! Before one can logically advocate
a cure, he has to show the condition is pathelogic. Where's the PROOF?
   What you call "racism," others may call "ethnic solidarity." The
image you project is simply that of one who has been thoroughly brain-
washed: "Well, I don't know why 'racism' is bad. Indeed, I don't act-
ually know what it is, but I do know it just HAS to be bad!"

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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adruid@netdoor.com (dannie hawkins) wrote:

>On Fri, 23 Aug 1996 23:32:16 GMT, ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
>wrote:
>
><"ultra" elitist multiracial crap cut to get to the bottom line>
>
>..................You are....... THE ENEMY
>
Why, you flatter me, _Untermensch_!
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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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The Forumlation for Peace contained in Deuteronomy xx 10 ...
is for "cities that are very far from you" (and if they decline to be
the Jews' slaves, all the males are to be killed). Yummy god,
ol' Yaweh. Where'd they find him. Oh yes, out in the desert, where
he showed Moise his butt!

The residents of Cannan were not to be offered any "peace," not even
slavery, but EXTERMINATED (15-17)-- every man, woman, and child! Lucky
for the Yids the Babylonians, Persians, Asserians, Greeks, and Romans
had kinder gods, (15-17), or there'd be no Jews around to be yapping
like Randy Andy.

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: A Yankee Question
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kmcvay@nizkor.org (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:

>In article <4vqu7l$re6@news-f.iadfw.net>, 
>mbusby@airmail.net (Another Texas loser) wrote:
>
>>Wrong again, oh Great Salami! After serving his country in WWI as an
>>infantryman,  and getting severely wounded in combat,
>>he returned home to find that jewish moneymen, called factors
>>nowadays, if you know anything about economics, never served their
>>country in the war, staying safely home, reaping huge profits from the
>
>Ah, grand! Another "revisionist scholar" shooting off his
>mouth about matters of which he knows nothing. (Did you study
>under Professor Alsbrook?)
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hitler-adolf/
>
>Tell us, oh Noble Aryan Scholar, where all those decorated
>German (Jewish) veterans got their WW I decorations?
>
>Go ahead - we'll wait.
>(But we sure won't hold our breath, because you haven't a
>clue.)
>
There is no question but that the Jewish populations of Germany and
Austria-Hungary (especially Austria-Hungary, which had a far larger
Jewish population than the German Empire) EXTHUSIASTICALLY
supported the war against Russia. Austria was dragged into the war in
the West quite against her will. As far as the population of Austria-
Hungary was concerned, the war was against Russia. (The Jews in the
U.S. were so supportive of the Central Powers that they were subjected
to the infamous Palmer raids.)

WWI was, perhaps, the greatest tragedy to befall the West. Future
historians, looking upon it, will probably compare it to the Pelepon-
nesian War, which destroyed Greek culture. It was the war NOBODY
wanted; yet no one could stop. (One should bear in mind that the
French had their Plan XVII, which was every bit as aggressive as the
German Schlieffern Plan.) Perhaps the greatest error of the era was
the universally accepted belief that no war could last more than 3-4
months. Both sides believed they would return victorious "before
Christmas." In reality, it became the Great Suicide Pact of the West.

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 26 15:00:30 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: Racist Education 2: The Protocols of the Wise Elders of Zion
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>jaklein@unix.amherst.edu (Josh Klein) wrote:
>
>>Ursus Major (ursus_m@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
>
>>> Why don't you post the whole Protocols? Henry Ford certainly thought
>>> they were authentic. They were serialized in his newspaper. Put them
>>> up and let the reader decide how fake they are.
>
>>How come there's a new group of nimrods on this group every time I pop over
>>for a visit?  The Protocols are already available on the Web and are 
>>available in book form in several languages.
>
>>There have also been several excellent exposes of the forgery -- I seem to
>>recall, in particular, an article which put several stretches of the Joly
>>pamphelet and the "Protocols" side by side.
>
Fine! Then put up the URLs where the material, including the exposés,
can be found. Don't just say "They're around." That doesn't mean
anything.

"We can tolerate any error of opinion, as long as Reason is left free
to combat it." -- Thomas Jefferson.

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[some squeeks by Talmudic scholar Randy Andy, who would rather
NOT discuss Deuteronomy xx 15-17, snipped out.]

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 26 15:45:54 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: USA To Europe:  Don't Let Non-Whites Into Your Country -- Sadly We Did.
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mbusby@airmail.net (Dish_It_Out) wrote:

>truth@nowhere.com ((test)) wrote:
>
>>rcentral@ix.netcom.com(JeffL) wrote:
>
>>>    To all those wonderful diverse Europeans that don't really care
>>>about race, just care about one thing -- YOUR CULTURE.
>
>
>>>    Sure, the non-Whites are only there for the rich cultural
>>>traditions of Europe.  I mean why else would they leave their country
>>>(perhaps for welfare?)  humm...oh well.
>
>>>     
>>"True" Americans to Jeff:
>
>>Yea, look what happend when the american indian let the "cultured"
>>europeans into their country.  They ended up getting murdered, and
>>their land stolen.  Some culture...
>
>
>
>A little lesson in genetics: only the strong survive. What many white
>Americans are concerned about is whether we now have the WILL to fight
>and survive. Do we?
>
>
>---Unite and Fight!------------
>
FORTUNA FAUVIT FORTIBUS: Fortune favors the strong!

Either the Whites of _Magna Europa_ discard their stupid, inter-
nacine factionalism and meet the challenge of the "Third World,"
or they will perish. Nature has no pity and plays no favorites.
   To lose the cultural legacy of the Occident and merely preserve
the pigmentation would be no victory at all. We should be flattered
that there are more kids in China studying the violin than there are
kids in the US, but it will be of scant value if the only place the
name "Beethoven" is regarded with reverence is Beijing.
   "Race" is a meaningless term unless bound together with "culture."
If the Jew has shown you nothing else, he has shown you that. It's
time for Aryans to stop carping about the Jews and start learning
>from  them. Do you know of a better teacher in cultural preservation
and survival? You yahoos sit around branishing names, while the Jew
revives Hebrew, a language dead for 2,000+ years and makes it
the everyday language of Israel. How many of YOU are queuing up
for Latin instruction?

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Mon Aug 26 15:45:55 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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yourmama@god.com wrote:

>Fucking skinheads make me sick. Fuckers attack Indians wearing
>a Swastika and claiming your an Aryan while doing it.  Fact Hitler borrowed the Swastika and the term Aryan from the ancient Indo-aryans. The term Aryan was used by the Indo-Iranians to describe their race for 8000 years and Europe started adopting this during the late 19th century.  The term aryan tought in most universities only to the Indo-Iranians not the Europeans. Next time a skinhead attacks a Indian with a swastika on his arm remeber this you trailer park inbreed decendent of child molester, pedifiles, and murderers bannishes of Europe.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
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"pidiffiles and murder bannishes"? Well, it's colorful vocabulary. Not
meaningful, but colorful!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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jmanish@suffolk.lib.ny.us (Manny) wrote:

>In article <3220468a.905932@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
>   ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>>Should not Rabbi Meyer Schiller, who is closely associated with the
>>White Nationalist _American Renaissance_ and has done more to
>>advance the preservation of the European essence of the United
>>States than 99+% than the blah-blah posters PROVED his dedication
>>to White Nationalism?
>>   Rabbi Schiller made three--t-h-r-e-e--trips to South Africa, im-
>>ploring them NOT to commit suicide! How many of the big-mouth, big-
>>guns around here have done anything? If Rabbi Schiller, not only a Jew
>>but a teacher at a yeshva, is not a White Nationalist, then there is
>>no such thing as a White Nationalist!!
>>
>>(P.S. It should also be recalled that the foremost classist of recent
>>times was the late Moses Hadis, and Walter Kaufmann was, without a
>>doubt, the foremost scholar on and promoter of Friedrich Nietzsche in
>>the English-speaking world. The preemiminent conductors of the operas
>>of Richard Wagner are James Levine and Daniel Barenboim. Need I
>>write more?)
>>
>>====================================================
>>
>>
>>MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
>>      "Ursus Major"
>
>So pathetic Ursus Major (Stupid fucking name!)...I take it you're a dirty 
>Jew?!
>
>Well look at this...a Jew groveling for acceptence to a crowd who would in 
>a heartbeat shove you in an oven! You must have SERIOUS SELF-ESTEEM problem 
>dude! What would you have done during Hilter's Germany?...Shout "SEIG HEIL" 
>side-by-side with SS while they are GASING, SHOOTING, BEATING, BURING YOUR 
>FAMILY?! You pathetic fucking piece-of-shit human garbage!
>
>Don't for a moment misinterpret White Christians "acceptence" of you as 
>some binding of brotherhood. It's happening because there are NON-WHITES 
>who represent immidiate threat. The moment non-whites dissapper from US, 
>for example, the European Whites WILL TURN ON YOU, YOU DIRTY, STINKING JEW!
>
>DON'T FOOL YOUR SELF - YOU WILL BE BURNT ALIVE! White supramacists HAS NO 
>PLACE FOR A BLOOD-SUCKING JEW!
>
Sorry to bust your bubble, you Metzgerite-scum, but this Bear is 100%
_goy_: a true _shegitz_, Austro-German paternal background, NORTH-
ERN Italian maternal extraction. Looks like it's back to the trailer
park with you to come up with another rationale! (Naturally, you're
too uneducated to know Latin. The signature means: "Many peoples,
One basic stock / essence  [the White race]."  _Dummkopf!_

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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jmanish@suffolk.lib.ny.us (Manny) wrote:

>In article <3220468a.905932@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
>   ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>>Should not Rabbi Meyer Schiller, who is closely associated with the
>>White Nationalist _American Renaissance_ and has done more to
>>advance the preservation of the European essence of the United
>>States than 99+% than the blah-blah posters PROVED his dedication
>>to White Nationalism?
>>   Rabbi Schiller made three--t-h-r-e-e--trips to South Africa, im-
>>ploring them NOT to commit suicide! How many of the big-mouth, big-
>>guns around here have done anything? If Rabbi Schiller, not only a Jew
>>but a teacher at a yeshva, is not a White Nationalist, then there is
>>no such thing as a White Nationalist!!
>>
>>(P.S. It should also be recalled that the foremost classist of recent
>>times was the late Moses Hadis, and Walter Kaufmann was, without a
>>doubt, the foremost scholar on and promoter of Friedrich Nietzsche in
>>the English-speaking world. The preemiminent conductors of the operas
>>of Richard Wagner are James Levine and Daniel Barenboim. Need I
>>write more?)
>>
>>====================================================
>>
>>
>>MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
>>      "Ursus Major"
>
>So pathetic Ursus Major (Stupid fucking name!)...I take it you're a dirty 
>Jew?!
>
>Well look at this...a Jew groveling for acceptence to a crowd who would in 
>a heartbeat shove you in an oven! You must have SERIOUS SELF-ESTEEM problem 
>dude! What would you have done during Hilter's Germany?...Shout "SEIG HEIL" 
>side-by-side with SS while they are GASING, SHOOTING, BEATING, BURING YOUR 
>FAMILY?! You pathetic fucking piece-of-shit human garbage!
>
>Don't for a moment misinterpret White Christians "acceptence" of you as 
>some binding of brotherhood. It's happening because there are NON-WHITES 
>who represent immidiate threat. The moment non-whites dissapper from US, 
>for example, the European Whites WILL TURN ON YOU, YOU DIRTY, STINKING JEW!
>
>DON'T FOOL YOUR SELF - YOU WILL BE BURNT ALIVE! White supramacists HAS NO 
>PLACE FOR A BLOOD-SUCKING JEW!
>
Sorry to bust your bubble, you Metzgerite-scum, but this Bear is 100%
_goy_: a true _shegitz_, Austro-German paternal background, NORTH-
ERN Italian maternal extraction. Looks like it's back to the trailer
park with you to come up with another rationale! (Naturally, you're
too uneducated to know Latin. The signature means: "Many peoples,
One basic stock / essence  [the White race]."  _Dummkopf!_

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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jmanish@suffolk.lib.ny.us (Manny) wrote:

>In article <3220468a.905932@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
>   ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) wrote:
>>Should not Rabbi Meyer Schiller, who is closely associated with the
>>White Nationalist _American Renaissance_ and has done more to
>>advance the preservation of the European essence of the United
>>States than 99+% than the blah-blah posters PROVED his dedication
>>to White Nationalism?
>>   Rabbi Schiller made three--t-h-r-e-e--trips to South Africa, im-
>>ploring them NOT to commit suicide! How many of the big-mouth, big-
>>guns around here have done anything? If Rabbi Schiller, not only a Jew
>>but a teacher at a yeshva, is not a White Nationalist, then there is
>>no such thing as a White Nationalist!!
>>
>>(P.S. It should also be recalled that the foremost classist of recent
>>times was the late Moses Hadis, and Walter Kaufmann was, without a
>>doubt, the foremost scholar on and promoter of Friedrich Nietzsche in
>>the English-speaking world. The preemiminent conductors of the operas
>>of Richard Wagner are James Levine and Daniel Barenboim. Need I
>>write more?)
>>
>>====================================================
>>
>>
>>MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
>>      "Ursus Major"
>
>So pathetic Ursus Major (Stupid fucking name!)...I take it you're a dirty 
>Jew?!
>
>Well look at this...a Jew groveling for acceptence to a crowd who would in 
>a heartbeat shove you in an oven! You must have SERIOUS SELF-ESTEEM problem 
>dude! What would you have done during Hilter's Germany?...Shout "SEIG HEIL" 
>side-by-side with SS while they are GASING, SHOOTING, BEATING, BURING YOUR 
>FAMILY?! You pathetic fucking piece-of-shit human garbage!
>
>Don't for a moment misinterpret White Christians "acceptence" of you as 
>some binding of brotherhood. It's happening because there are NON-WHITES 
>who represent immidiate threat. The moment non-whites dissapper from US, 
>for example, the European Whites WILL TURN ON YOU, YOU DIRTY, STINKING JEW!
>
>DON'T FOOL YOUR SELF - YOU WILL BE BURNT ALIVE! White supramacists HAS NO 
>PLACE FOR A BLOOD-SUCKING JEW!
>
Sorry to bust your bubble, you Metzgerite-scum, but this Bear is 100%
_goy_: a true _shegitz_, Austro-German paternal background, NORTH-
ERN Italian maternal extraction. Looks like it's back to the trailer
park with you to come up with another rationale! (Naturally, you're
too uneducated to know Latin. The signature means: "Many peoples,
One basic stock / essence  [the White race]."  _Dummkopf!_

==================================================================

MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>George:
>
>I have discussed verse 15-17 of Deuteronomy 20 ad nauseum.
>
>As I have stated, these passages are genocidal indeed, but they apply
>only to the seven tribes of Canaan, specifically because a) they
>practiced idolatry, which is forbidden even to Gentiles; and b) it was
>the punishment the Israelites had to bear for having worshipped the
>Golden Calf.
>
>Now stop calling me Randy Andy or I'll post your phone number.
>
>Andrew
>
Let me inform you, Randy Andy, that you are engaging in EXTORTION:
That this threat, which is a violation of Federal Law, is--in and of
itself--actionable. You have already committed a severe violation of
privacy, and you are publically on record as threatening extortion.
Now think about THAT for a while!

Good, I'm glad you finally admitted that Deuteronomy xx 15-17 is a
DEVINE MANDATE FOR GENOCIDE. (How could it be "punishment"
for worshiping a Golden Calf? It wasn't the Hittites or the Jezzubites
or the ... who were doing the worshiping, was it?)

Furthermore, how can an infant child be guilty of "idolatry"? Can a
10-month-old baby be an idolator? But the verses are VERY CLEAR:
"You must KILL THEM ALL: the men, the women, the children--yes, even
the infants--you MUST Kill Them All!!
   Do you know of any other "god" in the folklore of any other re-
ligion which made such a demand? Zeus? Apollo? Odin? NAME ONE! (Maybe
Hitler's "god" told him the same thing? Who knows.) You believe in
YOUR god, but I don't. Neither does the great bulk of mankind. How
many in China believe in Yaweh-stories, or in Japan? Who says "idola-
try" is forbidden to the gentiles. According to the Jews, everyone who
isn't a Jew is an idolator, to one degree or another.
   So what it boils down to is "Genocide's o.k., if MY god commands
it!" You can't have it both ways: either it's UNCONDITIONALLY immoral
to murder a one-year-old child because of it's race or it is not.
   Think about it!

   That Deuteronomy is obviously a fake--it wasn't "found" until about
1,000 years later [!] and has the "author" describing his own burial--
is really beside the point. The point is, HOW IS IT REGARDED? CAN
GENOCIDE EVER BE MORAL? CAN "GOD" COMMAND AN IMMORAL
ACT? If the answer to the first question is "Yes, if MY god demands
it? Then the whole structure of a universal morality is a fake. Whose
"god"? If the answer to the second is "Yes," then there is no such
thing as a moral absolute.

Christian Europe, accepting the Compendium of Jewish Folklore, burned
thousands and thousands of people was "witches." NOW, we laugh and
shake our heads that there's no such thing as a "witch," but the Folk-
lore Book has Saul going to the WITCH of Endor, and the law "Thou
shalt not suffer a witch to live!" So, either there ARE witches, or
the Folklore Book's way off base, because how does one summon up a
ghost through ordinary means?

I, personally, don't believe the spiritual ancestors of today's Jews
ever followed those infamous verses, or even knew about them. They
were composed as a rationale for Josiah to destroy, using genocidal
means, various sites at the time of a major purge (just like the
"witchomania" in Europe). I don't know of any Jews, no matter how
orthdox, who demand that male homosexuals be put to death (no penalty
for female homosexuals!) or that adultresses be stoned, or ...

Furthermore, you ascribe to Revisionists the basest of motives. Has it
ever occurred to you that the SOLE motivation of most revisionists is
that history be accurate. That and NOTHING more? As Thomas Jefferson
said, "We can tolerate any error of opinion, as long as reason is left
free to combat it." History should consist of facts and not Goodthink.

Beware of skating where the ice is thin!

=========================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 27 08:00:14 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: White man were educated by Niggers
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Tabernapy Abernapy Funkernaple  wrote:

>In article <4vqukp$rlq@news-f.iadfw.net>,
>    mbusby@airmail.net (Dish_It_Out) wrote:
>
>> From one who has lived and worked several years in the land of the
>> sand nigger:
>
>Fuck you, ass hole because you don't know what the fuck you are
>talking about.
>
>>    Arabs do not consider themselves related to African negroes and
>> consider Africans something less than their wild dogs 
>
>You dumb-ass son of a bitch, some of the greatest men in Arabian 
>History are coal black African negroes. This is clearly written
>out in Arabic History books and other literature.
>
>>which are not
>> highly prized. Oh, by the way, I have visited numerous times in
>> princley palaces in Saudi Arabia. Behind the walls where diplomats
>> cannot go I have trod and seen the negro slaves still kept by the
>> royals and the bedouin princes. We certainly keep strange bedfellows,
>> don't we?
>
>Listen, don't anyone believe this mother-fucker. If he went to Saudia
>Arabia they would kill his ass for talking that nigger shit. They
>have coal-black negroes in the highest positions in Saudia Arabia
>who would not hesitate to cut his sorry ass head off.
>
>---Tabernapy
>
>
>> ------------Unite and Fight!-------------------
>>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>This article was posted to Usenet via the Posting Service at Deja News:
>    http://www.dejanews.com/      [Search, Post, and Read Usenet News!]

THIS IS A COMPLETE LIE! WHILE ISLAM PROHIBITS RACIAL DISCRIMINATION,
IT IS A FACT THAT SOCIALLY, THE LIGHTER ONE'S COMPLEXION, THE GREATER
THE EASE OF SOCIAL MOBILITY, NOT ONLY IN SAUDI ARABIA, BUT THROUGH THE
ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST. ANWAR SADAT WAS ABLE TO ACHIEVE HIS POSITION _DE-
SPITE_ HIS COMPLEXION, NOT BECAUSE OF IT. FOR CENTURIES, MOORS WOULD
ALLOW NEGROES IN, ONLY AFTER THEY HAD BEEN SAFELY GELDED. (ISLAMIC LAW
FORBIDS CASTRATION, BUT PERMITS SLAVERY. OTHER NEGROES DID THE GELDING
BEFORE SELLING THEIR "WARES" TO ARAB TRADERS. RESENTMENT OF THIS AGE-
OLD CUSTOM WAS SO STRONG, THAT WHEN ZANZIBAR FELL UNDER NEGRO RULE,
WITH THE CREATION OF TANZANIA, THE ARABIC POPULATION WAS MASSACRED--
AND NOBODY EVEN NOTICED.)

=============================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 27 08:00:16 PDT 1996
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>George:
>
>I have discussed verse 15-17 of Deuteronomy 20 ad nauseum.
>
>As I have stated, these passages are genocidal indeed, but they apply
>only to the seven tribes of Canaan, specifically because a) they
>practiced idolatry, which is forbidden even to Gentiles; and b) it was
>the punishment the Israelites had to bear for having worshipped the
>Golden Calf.
>
>Now stop calling me Randy Andy or I'll post your phone number.
>
>Andrew
>
Let me inform you, Randy Andy, that you are engaging in EXTORTION:
That this threat, which is a violation of Federal Law, is--in and of
itself--actionable. You have already committed a severe violation of
privacy, and you are publically on record as threatening extortion.
Now think about THAT for a while!

Good, I'm glad you finally admitted that Deuteronomy xx 15-17 is a
DEVINE MANDATE FOR GENOCIDE. (How could it be "punishment"
for worshiping a Golden Calf? It wasn't the Hittites or the Jezzubites
or the ... who were doing the worshiping, was it?)

Furthermore, how can an infant child be guilty of "idolatry"? Can a
10-month-old baby be an idolator? But the verses are VERY CLEAR:
"You must KILL THEM ALL: the men, the women, the children--yes, even
the infants--you MUST Kill Them All!!
   Do you know of any other "god" in the folklore of any other re-
ligion which made such a demand? Zeus? Apollo? Odin? NAME ONE! (Maybe
Hitler's "god" told him the same thing? Who knows.) You believe in
YOUR god, but I don't. Neither does the great bulk of mankind. How
many in China believe in Yaweh-stories, or in Japan? Who says "idola-
try" is forbidden to the gentiles. According to the Jews, everyone who
isn't a Jew is an idolator, to one degree or another.
   So what it boils down to is "Genocide's o.k., if MY god commands
it!" You can't have it both ways: either it's UNCONDITIONALLY immoral
to murder a one-year-old child because of it's race or it is not.
   Think about it!

   That Deuteronomy is obviously a fake--it wasn't "found" until about
1,000 years later [!] and has the "author" describing his own burial--
is really beside the point. The point is, HOW IS IT REGARDED? CAN
GENOCIDE EVER BE MORAL? CAN "GOD" COMMAND AN IMMORAL
ACT? If the answer to the first question is "Yes, if MY god demands
it? Then the whole structure of a universal morality is a fake. Whose
"god"? If the answer to the second is "Yes," then there is no such
thing as a moral absolute.

Christian Europe, accepting the Compendium of Jewish Folklore, burned
thousands and thousands of people was "witches." NOW, we laugh and
shake our heads that there's no such thing as a "witch," but the Folk-
lore Book has Saul going to the WITCH of Endor, and the law "Thou
shalt not suffer a witch to live!" So, either there ARE witches, or
the Folklore Book's way off base, because how does one summon up a
ghost through ordinary means?

I, personally, don't believe the spiritual ancestors of today's Jews
ever followed those infamous verses, or even knew about them. They
were composed as a rationale for Josiah to destroy, using genocidal
means, various sites at the time of a major purge (just like the
"witchomania" in Europe). I don't know of any Jews, no matter how
orthdox, who demand that male homosexuals be put to death (no penalty
for female homosexuals!) or that adultresses be stoned, or ...

Furthermore, you ascribe to Revisionists the basest of motives. Has it
ever occurred to you that the SOLE motivation of most revisionists is
that history be accurate. That and NOTHING more? As Thomas Jefferson
said, "We can tolerate any error of opinion, as long as reason is left
free to combat it." History should consist of facts and not Goodthink.

Beware of skating where the ice is thin!

=========================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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tmw@nilenet.com (tmw) wrote:

>New on the GOAL Resource LIbrary Home Page:
>   http://www.nilenet.com/~tmw/
>
>Jewish Ritual Murder by Arnold Leese
>
>                          CONTENTS 

This is simply an OUTRAGE! That yahoos would have the GALL to
promulgate lies even the most rabid anti-Semites would balk at stuns
the imagination. One doesn't "analyse" something like this anymore
than he analysizes used toilet-tissue. It's disgusting!

========================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>In article <3221e2a4.5197442@nntp.ix.netcom.com> ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) writes:
>
>>Fine! Then put up the URLs where the material, including the exposés,
>>can be found. Don't just say "They're around." That doesn't mean
>>anything.
>
>Why should he do your work for you?  You're the one who wants them; find them. 
> 
Because he's alleging they exist. If that be the case, then concrete
proof for his allegations could easily be presented. He claims they're
fake and proven to be fake; therefore, either present the material in
its entirety, or (at a bare minimum) supply the URL where it is to be
found. That's not doing MY work for me; that's verifying a claim.

As for wallowing around NIZKOR, you've got to be kidding! That place
makes the Nuremberg Kangaroo Court look unbiased!

===========================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 27 08:35:23 PDT 1996
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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>George:
>
>I have discussed verse 15-17 of Deuteronomy 20 ad nauseum.
>
>As I have stated, these passages are genocidal indeed, but they apply
>only to the seven tribes of Canaan, specifically because a) they
>practiced idolatry, which is forbidden even to Gentiles; and b) it was
>the punishment the Israelites had to bear for having worshipped the
>Golden Calf.
>
>Now stop calling me Randy Andy or I'll post your phone number.
>
>Andrew
>
Let me inform you, Randy Andy, that you are engaging in EXTORTION:
That this threat, which is a violation of Federal Law, is--in and of
itself--actionable. You have already committed a severe violation of
privacy, and you are publically on record as threatening extortion.
Now think about THAT for a while!

Good, I'm glad you finally admitted that Deuteronomy xx 15-17 is a
DEVINE MANDATE FOR GENOCIDE. (How could it be "punishment"
for worshiping a Golden Calf? It wasn't the Hittites or the Jezzubites
or the ... who were doing the worshiping, was it?)

Furthermore, how can an infant child be guilty of "idolatry"? Can a
10-month-old baby be an idolator? But the verses are VERY CLEAR:
"You must KILL THEM ALL: the men, the women, the children--yes, even
the infants--you MUST Kill Them All!!
   Do you know of any other "god" in the folklore of any other re-
ligion which made such a demand? Zeus? Apollo? Odin? NAME ONE! (Maybe
Hitler's "god" told him the same thing? Who knows.) You believe in
YOUR god, but I don't. Neither does the great bulk of mankind. How
many in China believe in Yaweh-stories, or in Japan? Who says "idola-
try" is forbidden to the gentiles. According to the Jews, everyone who
isn't a Jew is an idolator, to one degree or another.
   So what it boils down to is "Genocide's o.k., if MY god commands
it!" You can't have it both ways: either it's UNCONDITIONALLY immoral
to murder a one-year-old child because of it's race or it is not.
   Think about it!

   That Deuteronomy is obviously a fake--it wasn't "found" until about
1,000 years later [!] and has the "author" describing his own burial--
is really beside the point. The point is, HOW IS IT REGARDED? CAN
GENOCIDE EVER BE MORAL? CAN "GOD" COMMAND AN IMMORAL
ACT? If the answer to the first question is "Yes, if MY god demands
it? Then the whole structure of a universal morality is a fake. Whose
"god"? If the answer to the second is "Yes," then there is no such
thing as a moral absolute.

Christian Europe, accepting the Compendium of Jewish Folklore, burned
thousands and thousands of people was "witches." NOW, we laugh and
shake our heads that there's no such thing as a "witch," but the Folk-
lore Book has Saul going to the WITCH of Endor, and the law "Thou
shalt not suffer a witch to live!" So, either there ARE witches, or
the Folklore Book's way off base, because how does one summon up a
ghost through ordinary means?

I, personally, don't believe the spiritual ancestors of today's Jews
ever followed those infamous verses, or even knew about them. They
were composed as a rationale for Josiah to destroy, using genocidal
means, various sites at the time of a major purge (just like the
"witchomania" in Europe). I don't know of any Jews, no matter how
orthdox, who demand that male homosexuals be put to death (no penalty
for female homosexuals!) or that adultresses be stoned, or ...

Furthermore, you ascribe to Revisionists the basest of motives. Has it
ever occurred to you that the SOLE motivation of most revisionists is
that history be accurate. That and NOTHING more? As Thomas Jefferson
said, "We can tolerate any error of opinion, as long as reason is left
free to combat it." History should consist of facts and not Goodthink.

Beware of skating where the ice is thin!

=========================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>In article <3221e2a4.5197442@nntp.ix.netcom.com> ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) writes:
>
>>Fine! Then put up the URLs where the material, including the exposés,
>>can be found. Don't just say "They're around." That doesn't mean
>>anything.
>
>Why should he do your work for you?  You're the one who wants them; find them. 
> 
Because he's alleging they exist. If that be the case, then concrete
proof for his allegations could easily be presented. He claims they're
fake and proven to be fake; therefore, either present the material in
its entirety, or (at a bare minimum) supply the URL where it is to be
found. That's not doing MY work for me; that's verifying a claim.

As for wallowing around NIZKOR, you've got to be kidding! That place
makes the Nuremberg Kangaroo Court look unbiased!

===========================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote:

>George:
>
>I have discussed verse 15-17 of Deuteronomy 20 ad nauseum.
>
>As I have stated, these passages are genocidal indeed, but they apply
>only to the seven tribes of Canaan, specifically because a) they
>practiced idolatry, which is forbidden even to Gentiles; and b) it was
>the punishment the Israelites had to bear for having worshipped the
>Golden Calf.
>
>Now stop calling me Randy Andy or I'll post your phone number.
>
>Andrew
>
Let me inform you, Randy Andy, that you are engaging in EXTORTION:
That this threat, which is a violation of Federal Law, is--in and of
itself--actionable. You have already committed a severe violation of
privacy, and you are publically on record as threatening extortion.
Now think about THAT for a while!

Good, I'm glad you finally admitted that Deuteronomy xx 15-17 is a
DEVINE MANDATE FOR GENOCIDE. (How could it be "punishment"
for worshiping a Golden Calf? It wasn't the Hittites or the Jezzubites
or the ... who were doing the worshiping, was it?)

Furthermore, how can an infant child be guilty of "idolatry"? Can a
10-month-old baby be an idolator? But the verses are VERY CLEAR:
"You must KILL THEM ALL: the men, the women, the children--yes, even
the infants--you MUST Kill Them All!!
   Do you know of any other "god" in the folklore of any other re-
ligion which made such a demand? Zeus? Apollo? Odin? NAME ONE! (Maybe
Hitler's "god" told him the same thing? Who knows.) You believe in
YOUR god, but I don't. Neither does the great bulk of mankind. How
many in China believe in Yaweh-stories, or in Japan? Who says "idola-
try" is forbidden to the gentiles. According to the Jews, everyone who
isn't a Jew is an idolator, to one degree or another.
   So what it boils down to is "Genocide's o.k., if MY god commands
it!" You can't have it both ways: either it's UNCONDITIONALLY immoral
to murder a one-year-old child because of it's race or it is not.
   Think about it!

   That Deuteronomy is obviously a fake--it wasn't "found" until about
1,000 years later [!] and has the "author" describing his own burial--
is really beside the point. The point is, HOW IS IT REGARDED? CAN
GENOCIDE EVER BE MORAL? CAN "GOD" COMMAND AN IMMORAL
ACT? If the answer to the first question is "Yes, if MY god demands
it? Then the whole structure of a universal morality is a fake. Whose
"god"? If the answer to the second is "Yes," then there is no such
thing as a moral absolute.

Christian Europe, accepting the Compendium of Jewish Folklore, burned
thousands and thousands of people was "witches." NOW, we laugh and
shake our heads that there's no such thing as a "witch," but the Folk-
lore Book has Saul going to the WITCH of Endor, and the law "Thou
shalt not suffer a witch to live!" So, either there ARE witches, or
the Folklore Book's way off base, because how does one summon up a
ghost through ordinary means?

I, personally, don't believe the spiritual ancestors of today's Jews
ever followed those infamous verses, or even knew about them. They
were composed as a rationale for Josiah to destroy, using genocidal
means, various sites at the time of a major purge (just like the
"witchomania" in Europe). I don't know of any Jews, no matter how
orthdox, who demand that male homosexuals be put to death (no penalty
for female homosexuals!) or that adultresses be stoned, or ...

Furthermore, you ascribe to Revisionists the basest of motives. Has it
ever occurred to you that the SOLE motivation of most revisionists is
that history be accurate. That and NOTHING more? As Thomas Jefferson
said, "We can tolerate any error of opinion, as long as reason is left
free to combat it." History should consist of facts and not Goodthink.

Beware of skating where the ice is thin!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>In article <3221e2a4.5197442@nntp.ix.netcom.com> ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) writes:
>
>>Fine! Then put up the URLs where the material, including the exposés,
>>can be found. Don't just say "They're around." That doesn't mean
>>anything.
>
>Why should he do your work for you?  You're the one who wants them; find them. 
> 
Because he's alleging they exist. If that be the case, then concrete
proof for his allegations could easily be presented. He claims they're
fake and proven to be fake; therefore, either present the material in
its entirety, or (at a bare minimum) supply the URL where it is to be
found. That's not doing MY work for me; that's verifying a claim.

As for wallowing around NIZKOR, you've got to be kidding! That place
makes the Nuremberg Kangaroo Court look unbiased!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>In article <3221e2a4.5197442@nntp.ix.netcom.com> ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) writes:
>
>>Fine! Then put up the URLs where the material, including the exposés,
>>can be found. Don't just say "They're around." That doesn't mean
>>anything.
>
>Why should he do your work for you?  You're the one who wants them; find them. 
> 
Because he's alleging they exist. If that be the case, then concrete
proof for his allegations could easily be presented. He claims they're
fake and proven to be fake; therefore, either present the material in
its entirety, or (at a bare minimum) supply the URL where it is to be
found. That's not doing MY work for me; that's verifying a claim.

As for wallowing around NIZKOR, you've got to be kidding! That place
makes the Nuremberg Kangaroo Court look unbiased!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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>
>George, they carry the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which I
>believe you were looking to evaluate. Please check them out and
>let us know what you think of their authenticity and value to
>"The Movement." Isn't it good to have GOAL on your side?
>
>Have you talked to Milton Kleim recently?
>
>Followups set.
>
>-rich

1) I would be extremely skeptical that such a pack of vermin would
present ANYTHING which had not been doctored to suit their vile
purposes.

2) I don't know which "Movement" you are referring to. My primary
concern is the preservation of the fundamentally European nature
of the United States and the preservation of the High Culture of the
Occident (a "movement"--if you wish to call it that--which is shared
by such well-known Jewish intellectuals as Rabbi Meyer Schiller,
Irving Kristal, and Norm Chomsky, _inter alios_.

3) The other area of concern is historical revision: that the horrible
pogrom of the Jews and others during WWII be accurate as to FACT,
and not merely a collection of unproven--and in some cases--DIS-
proven allegations. For example, none other than Deborah Lipstadt
(I feel SURE you've heard the name!) wrote in a letter to the L.A.
Times that there was NO truth to the allegation that soap was ever
made from Jewish (or any other) corpses. Furthermore, the "lamp-
shade" myth has been similarly discarded. Let us not forget that a
number of German POWs were hanged for participation in the Katyn
Massacre, a monstrous crime the Russians now admit was carried out
by the Soviets. If the Search for Truth be a crime, I proudly enter a
plea of "guilty"!

===============================================================

MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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Jim Vassallo  wrote:

>Jean A Robards wrote:
>
>(Snip of irrelevant stuff Jim doesn't want to talk about) 
>
>> 
>>    Like YEAH FUCKING RIGHT.Christians are the most blood thirst fuckers
>> around...killing supposed 'heathen non belivers" and the such.The
>> others are the same,except maybe the Buddists.
>
>I wish that was true. I could go on a holy crusade with God at my side and kill all 
>sorts of dumb freaks like yourself. Unfortunately, it isn't. Read a book once and 
>awhile, you might just learn something.

Why don't YOU practice what you preach? I suggest you start with an
unbiased book on "Witchomania": the madness which ran through
Europe for over 200 years, in which hundreds of thousands of people
--perhaps over a million!--were brutally executed as "witches," after
being subjected to tortures that would get you to confess to ANYTHING!
   It wasn't a Catholic show or a Protestant one: both sides tried to
out do each other as to how many "witches" they could burn. It even
spread to New England, where several were hanged and one poor devil
was pressed to death for refusing to enter a plea. (A board was placed
on his chest, and more and more weights added until he suffocated.)
Why did he refuse to enter a plea? Being being a witch or sorcerer was
a felony, and if convicted, all of one's property was confiscated. As
during Witchomania, to be CHARGED was to be CONVICTED, he at least
saved something for his family.

What other "religion"--anywhere, at any time in history--has come up
with something like that? And Witchomania was in full flower, while
people like Johannes Kepler and Galilleo were laying the foundation
for modern science.

Christianity isn't a religion; it's a MENTAL ABBERATION!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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Jim Vassallo  wrote:

>Jean A Robards wrote:
>
>(Snip of irrelevant stuff Jim doesn't want to talk about) 
>
>> 
>>    Like YEAH FUCKING RIGHT.Christians are the most blood thirst fuckers
>> around...killing supposed 'heathen non belivers" and the such.The
>> others are the same,except maybe the Buddists.
>
>I wish that was true. I could go on a holy crusade with God at my side and kill all 
>sorts of dumb freaks like yourself. Unfortunately, it isn't. Read a book once and 
>awhile, you might just learn something.

Why don't YOU practice what you preach? I suggest you start with an
unbiased book on "Witchomania": the madness which ran through
Europe for over 200 years, in which hundreds of thousands of people
--perhaps over a million!--were brutally executed as "witches," after
being subjected to tortures that would get you to confess to ANYTHING!
   It wasn't a Catholic show or a Protestant one: both sides tried to
out do each other as to how many "witches" they could burn. It even
spread to New England, where several were hanged and one poor devil
was pressed to death for refusing to enter a plea. (A board was placed
on his chest, and more and more weights added until he suffocated.)
Why did he refuse to enter a plea? Being being a witch or sorcerer was
a felony, and if convicted, all of one's property was confiscated. As
during Witchomania, to be CHARGED was to be CONVICTED, he at least
saved something for his family.

What other "religion"--anywhere, at any time in history--has come up
with something like that? And Witchomania was in full flower, while
people like Johannes Kepler and Galilleo were laying the foundation
for modern science.

Christianity isn't a religion; it's a MENTAL ABBERATION!

=============================================================

MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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Jim Vassallo  wrote:

>Jean A Robards wrote:
>
>(Snip of irrelevant stuff Jim doesn't want to talk about) 
>
>> 
>>    Like YEAH FUCKING RIGHT.Christians are the most blood thirst fuckers
>> around...killing supposed 'heathen non belivers" and the such.The
>> others are the same,except maybe the Buddists.
>
>I wish that was true. I could go on a holy crusade with God at my side and kill all 
>sorts of dumb freaks like yourself. Unfortunately, it isn't. Read a book once and 
>awhile, you might just learn something.

Why don't YOU practice what you preach? I suggest you start with an
unbiased book on "Witchomania": the madness which ran through
Europe for over 200 years, in which hundreds of thousands of people
--perhaps over a million!--were brutally executed as "witches," after
being subjected to tortures that would get you to confess to ANYTHING!
   It wasn't a Catholic show or a Protestant one: both sides tried to
out do each other as to how many "witches" they could burn. It even
spread to New England, where several were hanged and one poor devil
was pressed to death for refusing to enter a plea. (A board was placed
on his chest, and more and more weights added until he suffocated.)
Why did he refuse to enter a plea? Being being a witch or sorcerer was
a felony, and if convicted, all of one's property was confiscated. As
during Witchomania, to be CHARGED was to be CONVICTED, he at least
saved something for his family.

What other "religion"--anywhere, at any time in history--has come up
with something like that? And Witchomania was in full flower, while
people like Johannes Kepler and Galilleo were laying the foundation
for modern science.

Christianity isn't a religion; it's a MENTAL ABBERATION!

=============================================================

MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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Jim Vassallo  wrote:

>Jean A Robards wrote:
>
>(Snip of irrelevant stuff Jim doesn't want to talk about) 
>
>> 
>>    Like YEAH FUCKING RIGHT.Christians are the most blood thirst fuckers
>> around...killing supposed 'heathen non belivers" and the such.The
>> others are the same,except maybe the Buddists.
>
>I wish that was true. I could go on a holy crusade with God at my side and kill all 
>sorts of dumb freaks like yourself. Unfortunately, it isn't. Read a book once and 
>awhile, you might just learn something.

Why don't YOU practice what you preach? I suggest you start with an
unbiased book on "Witchomania": the madness which ran through
Europe for over 200 years, in which hundreds of thousands of people
--perhaps over a million!--were brutally executed as "witches," after
being subjected to tortures that would get you to confess to ANYTHING!
   It wasn't a Catholic show or a Protestant one: both sides tried to
out do each other as to how many "witches" they could burn. It even
spread to New England, where several were hanged and one poor devil
was pressed to death for refusing to enter a plea. (A board was placed
on his chest, and more and more weights added until he suffocated.)
Why did he refuse to enter a plea? Being being a witch or sorcerer was
a felony, and if convicted, all of one's property was confiscated. As
during Witchomania, to be CHARGED was to be CONVICTED, he at least
saved something for his family.

What other "religion"--anywhere, at any time in history--has come up
with something like that? And Witchomania was in full flower, while
people like Johannes Kepler and Galilleo were laying the foundation
for modern science.

Christianity isn't a religion; it's a MENTAL ABBERATION!

=============================================================

MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 29 08:41:43 PDT 1996
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From: ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major)
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Subject: Re: Conflicts in White Nationalist thought, Mr. Strom?
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rkadel@course2.harvard.edu (Rachel Meredith Kadel) wrote:

>In article <32204b03.2051283@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
>Ursus Major  wrote:
>>What one tends to ignore is that, barring rape, it is the FEMALE who is
>>responsible for genentic decay. 
>
>Eh?  All children have equal numbers of genes from their father and their
>mother -- and men are responsible for the children they father just as
>much as women are for the children they bear.
>
>>Modern medicine has made sterilization of
>>the female far simpler and risk-free, which was not true before.
>
>Scuzi?  Simpler than what?  Vasectomy is simpler and less risky than
>tube-tying.
>
>						Rachel
>
You are quite correct in one respect: both the male and the female
contribute an equal amount of genetic material to form the zygote.
The male, however, DOES NOT incubate this material for 9 months
to produce a specimen incorporating genetic decay. After coition,
it's the female's show--100%. As the Supreme Court has (despite
monstrous pressure) upheld >Roe<, the responsibility for allowing
defective genetic material to reach maturity is the female's decision,
and therefore her responsibility.

Admittedly vasectomies are easier to perform than tublar legation;
however, with modern medical means, the latter runs no risk, even if
a more complex procedure.

Man is a mamma like any other mammal. The priciples of eugenics
apply to humans as much as they apply to horses, dogs, etc.

===========================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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rkadel@course2.harvard.edu (Rachel Meredith Kadel) wrote:

>In article <32204b03.2051283@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
>Ursus Major  wrote:
>>What one tends to ignore is that, barring rape, it is the FEMALE who is
>>responsible for genentic decay. 
>
>Eh?  All children have equal numbers of genes from their father and their
>mother -- and men are responsible for the children they father just as
>much as women are for the children they bear.
>
>>Modern medicine has made sterilization of
>>the female far simpler and risk-free, which was not true before.
>
>Scuzi?  Simpler than what?  Vasectomy is simpler and less risky than
>tube-tying.
>
>						Rachel
>
You are quite correct in one respect: both the male and the female
contribute an equal amount of genetic material to form the zygote.
The male, however, DOES NOT incubate this material for 9 months
to produce a specimen incorporating genetic decay. After coition,
it's the female's show--100%. As the Supreme Court has (despite
monstrous pressure) upheld >Roe<, the responsibility for allowing
defective genetic material to reach maturity is the female's decision,
and therefore her responsibility.

Admittedly vasectomies are easier to perform than tublar legation;
however, with modern medical means, the latter runs no risk, even if
a more complex procedure.

Man is a mamma like any other mammal. The priciples of eugenics
apply to humans as much as they apply to horses, dogs, etc.

===========================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 29 14:18:04 PDT 1996
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amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews) wrote:

>You know, you should avoid things that get you high.  Just what does this 
>"High" culture of yours consist of anyway?  

The High Culture of the Occident is that culture which arose out of
the compost heap following the exaustion of the Apollonian (Graeco-
Roman) culture. It's birth pangs occurred around the year 1,000 c.e.
(not being a Christian, I eschew >Anno Domini<, which is Latin for "in
the year of the Lord). For a complete description of what that Culture
entails, I'd refer you to Oswald Spengler's >Decline of the West<.
   Suffice it to say, that within a few centuries of its birth it
reached a momentum to devise perspective art (unknown in any
other culture), lay the foundations for contrapunctal music (unique to
the West) and come to grips with concept not only of irrational num-
bers (which had terrified the Greeks), but leading to the recognition
of the >imaginary< (square root of -1), which culminated in Euler's
equation: the foundation of functional analysis.
   Within approx. 100 years, it progressed from the invention of prin-
ting from >movable< type to discovering and conquering the Amer-
icas (such was the vitality of this Culture, that Pizarro with a mere
handful of troops was able to overthrow the whole Inca empire),
to breaking the monopoly of the papacy, and finally to reordering
the entire cosmos--all between 1438 and 1542. That will do for
starters.

>
>>(a "movement"--if you wish to call it that--which is shared
>>by such well-known Jewish intellectuals as Rabbi Meyer Schiller,
>>Irving Kristal, and Norm Chomsky, _inter alios_.
>
>Who the hell is Norm Chomsky?   Wasn't he the fat guy on "Cheers?"  Or do you 
>mean NOAM Chomsky, the sexist MIT professor, who's been called a "self-hating 
>Jew" by some?  Prof. Chomsky is, as another Cambridge professor put it, "the 
>most likely to loudly lecture us all on things he really doesn't know anything 
>about."  Calling him a Jewish intellectual is a little like calling Martin 
>Luther a great Catholic theologian - it can be done, but its a bit of a 
>stretch all the same.  

Of course I mean Noam Chomsky. It is an elementary aspect of netti-
qute to ignore spelling errors, typos, and such items. You knew damn
well whom I was referring to, but you're so steeped in vitriol, you
can't avoid any opportunity to debase and villify your opponents
with ad hominum attacks and snide inferences that they're cretins,
because of a typo. You're not here to discuss anything. You're here
to BLOCK serious consideration by villifying those Jews who put
integrity and intellectual honesty ahead of confessional differences
by calling them "self-hating." Any Jew who refuses to follow the dogma
laid down by the Weasels is >ipso facto< "self-hating." That how you
try to discredit them. As you can't call an MIT professor a dolt, you
fall back on the ol' "self-hating" rationale. What do you call your-
sevles, the >Lipstadt JugendAnd as for Irving Kristol, he, like his son Bill, is no great champion of 
>civil rights for all people. 
Again, a villification without one iota of proof, without a single
example of what would lead one to this defamation, just another
ad hominum attack, mere slander which is your stock in trade.

>>3) The other area of concern is historical revision:
>
>That's why people like me post to this NG - we're trying to stop guys like you 
>from rewriting history into a twisted lie.

People like you post to this NG to interdict the rectification of the
twisted lies you and others of your ilk have been passing off as
"history" for over 50 years. The Polish government carted off
the stone commemorating the "Four Million" who died as Auschwitz
and replaced it with another stone, commemorating the "ONE
Million" who died at Auschwitz--and the forensic evidence mounts
up that this number is also grossly exaggerated. But, for the sake
of argument, let's go with the Pole's figures: an 80% reduction in
the number of died, >of all causes<, at Auschwitz. And what does
this do to the total? NOTHING!

NO MATTER HOW GREAT THE FIGURES ARE REDUCED, THE DOGMA STANDS: THE
NAZIS MURDERED SIX MILLION JEWS.  (Well, if they didn't murder them at
Auschwitz like we used to have everyone believing--they murdered them
somewhere else. Give us a little time. We'll come up with the some-
where else as soon as we can find a spot which doesn't lend itself to
chemical analysis.)

>
>> that the horrible
>>pogrom of the Jews and others during WWII be accurate as to FACT,
>>and not merely a collection of unproven--and in some cases--DIS-
>>proven allegations. 
>>[snip]
>> Furthermore, the "lampshade" myth has been similarly discarded. 
>
>Oh, how so, given that there were such lampshades?  They may not have been 
>produced in quantity but some were made.

There were as many made,
>allan,
as there have been attempts by you and the Thought Police
to insure that history is a recordation of fact and not extremely
profitable intentional fraud.

=========================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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amatthews@cybercom.net (Allan Matthews) wrote:

>You know, you should avoid things that get you high.  Just what does this 
>"High" culture of yours consist of anyway?  

The High Culture of the Occident is that culture which arose out of
the compost heap following the exaustion of the Apollonian (Graeco-
Roman) culture. It's birth pangs occurred around the year 1,000 c.e.
(not being a Christian, I eschew >Anno Domini<, which is Latin for "in
the year of the Lord). For a complete description of what that Culture
entails, I'd refer you to Oswald Spengler's >Decline of the West<.
   Suffice it to say, that within a few centuries of its birth it
reached a momentum to devise perspective art (unknown in any
other culture), lay the foundations for contrapunctal music (unique to
the West) and come to grips with concept not only of irrational num-
bers (which had terrified the Greeks), but leading to the recognition
of the >imaginary< (square root of -1), which culminated in Euler's
equation: the foundation of functional analysis.
   Within approx. 100 years, it progressed from the invention of prin-
ting from >movable< type to discovering and conquering the Amer-
icas (such was the vitality of this Culture, that Pizarro with a mere
handful of troops was able to overthrow the whole Inca empire),
to breaking the monopoly of the papacy, and finally to reordering
the entire cosmos--all between 1438 and 1542. That will do for
starters.

>
>>(a "movement"--if you wish to call it that--which is shared
>>by such well-known Jewish intellectuals as Rabbi Meyer Schiller,
>>Irving Kristal, and Norm Chomsky, _inter alios_.
>
>Who the hell is Norm Chomsky?   Wasn't he the fat guy on "Cheers?"  Or do you 
>mean NOAM Chomsky, the sexist MIT professor, who's been called a "self-hating 
>Jew" by some?  Prof. Chomsky is, as another Cambridge professor put it, "the 
>most likely to loudly lecture us all on things he really doesn't know anything 
>about."  Calling him a Jewish intellectual is a little like calling Martin 
>Luther a great Catholic theologian - it can be done, but its a bit of a 
>stretch all the same.  

Of course I mean Noam Chomsky. It is an elementary aspect of netti-
qute to ignore spelling errors, typos, and such items. You knew damn
well whom I was referring to, but you're so steeped in vitriol, you
can't avoid any opportunity to debase and villify your opponents
with ad hominum attacks and snide inferences that they're cretins,
because of a typo. You're not here to discuss anything. You're here
to BLOCK serious consideration by villifying those Jews who put
integrity and intellectual honesty ahead of confessional differences
by calling them "self-hating." Any Jew who refuses to follow the dogma
laid down by the Weasels is >ipso facto< "self-hating." That how you
try to discredit them. As you can't call an MIT professor a dolt, you
fall back on the ol' "self-hating" rationale. What do you call your-
sevles, the >Lipstadt JugendAnd as for Irving Kristol, he, like his son Bill, is no great champion of 
>civil rights for all people. 
Again, a villification without one iota of proof, without a single
example of what would lead one to this defamation, just another
ad hominum attack, mere slander which is your stock in trade.

>>3) The other area of concern is historical revision:
>
>That's why people like me post to this NG - we're trying to stop guys like you 
>from rewriting history into a twisted lie.

People like you post to this NG to interdict the rectification of the
twisted lies you and others of your ilk have been passing off as
"history" for over 50 years. The Polish government carted off
the stone commemorating the "Four Million" who died as Auschwitz
and replaced it with another stone, commemorating the "ONE
Million" who died at Auschwitz--and the forensic evidence mounts
up that this number is also grossly exaggerated. But, for the sake
of argument, let's go with the Pole's figures: an 80% reduction in
the number of died, >of all causes<, at Auschwitz. And what does
this do to the total? NOTHING!

NO MATTER HOW GREAT THE FIGURES ARE REDUCED, THE DOGMA STANDS: THE
NAZIS MURDERED SIX MILLION JEWS.  (Well, if they didn't murder them at
Auschwitz like we used to have everyone believing--they murdered them
somewhere else. Give us a little time. We'll come up with the some-
where else as soon as we can find a spot which doesn't lend itself to
chemical analysis.)

>
>> that the horrible
>>pogrom of the Jews and others during WWII be accurate as to FACT,
>>and not merely a collection of unproven--and in some cases--DIS-
>>proven allegations. 
>>[snip]
>> Furthermore, the "lampshade" myth has been similarly discarded. 
>
>Oh, how so, given that there were such lampshades?  They may not have been 
>produced in quantity but some were made.

There were as many made,
>allan,
as there have been attempts by you and the Thought Police
to insure that history is a recordation of fact and not extremely
profitable intentional fraud.

=========================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 29 14:21:12 PDT 1996
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rcgraves@ix.netcom.com (Rich Graves) wrote:

>ursus_m@ix.netcom.com (Ursus Major) writes:
>>joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <3221e2a4.5197442@nntp.ix.netcom.com> ursus_m@ix.netcom.com
>>>(Ursus Major) writes: 
>>>
>>>>Fine! Then put up the URLs where the material, including the exposés,
>>>>can be found. Don't just say "They're around." That doesn't mean
>>>>anything.
>>>
>>>Why should he do your work for you?  You're the one who wants them; find
>>>them.
>>> 
>>Because he's alleging they exist. If that be the case, then concrete
>>proof for his allegations could easily be presented. He claims they're
>>fake and proven to be fake; therefore, either present the material in
>>its entirety, or (at a bare minimum) supply the URL where it is to be
>>found. That's not doing MY work for me; that's verifying a claim.
>
>OK, moron. The Protocols themselves, which are on the web in at least 20
>places, are 183K (in HTML format, a little less text-only), and the
>refutations of same amount to several gigabytes online, so I hope you will
>be content with the URLs. (Though if you are incapable of doing a simple
>web search, I'm not sure we can help you.) For verification of the claims
>that the Protocols are 1) on the web and 2) a fabrication of the Tsarist
>police, almost 100% plagiarized from a book by Maurice Joly written long,
>long before the alleged meeting of the Elders, see: 
>
>http://www.iahushua.com/BeWise/protocol.html
>http://www.danger.com/elders.html
---------------------------------------
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>-rich

Thank you for your efforts and the diversity of the sources, Rich.
I believe, however, that your referring to me as a "moron" warrants an
apology.

=========================================================


MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Thu Aug 29 16:20:23 PDT 1996
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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>In article  ramuhammad@aol.com (Richard A. Muhammad) writes:
>
>>MINISTER FARRAKHAN: Ladies and gentlemen of the press, first, thank you
>>very much for coming. We called this conference to announce that we will
>>be leaving shortly for Tripoli to receive the Humanitarian prize, called
>>the Gadhafi Prize.
>
>Presumably, he'll also be receiving the Jim Jones Religious Leadership award 
>as well.
>
Along with The Deuteronomy xx 15-17 Award for How to Win Friends and
Massacre Infants. (A little out of date? O.K., make it "The Deir
Yassin Award")

========================================

>
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>http://www.winternet.com/~joelr
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0380973227/joelrosenbergA/
>...and for the last bit of geekitry:  to receive the latest version of my FAQ, 
>send me a message with the phrase "your FAQ" anywhere in the subject line.

MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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You'd better check with your friends "of the Mosaic confession" as to
what constitutes extortion, Andrew. It has nothing to do with threat
of bodily injury. Furthermore, I have an unlisted number AND unre-
stricted blocker installed. If you did indeed obtain my telephone
number, without there being any reference as to which area of God's
Own Funny Farm is my situs, you did so through some espionage network
established by the holohuggers in an attempt to intimidate and villify
those involved in historical revision.

(I might add that I immediately forwarded FOUR copies of your open
threat of extortion to repositories beyond reproach. You are either 1)
bluffing or 2) in gross violation of the various federal laws concern-
ing the Right to Privacy. Let us hope, for your sake, that it's the
former and not the latter.

As for calling you "Randy Andy," it is because of your penchant for
using "spray-can graffitti" techniques on the posts of those you don't
agree with. Stop trying to ruin the NG through such childish and in-
sulting actions, and people won't call you names.

Thirdly, you may believe anything you choose. That's what Freedom of
Religion and Freedom FROM Religion are all about. I don't believe in
your god. At all. Nada! I have no credence whatsoever in your "Holy
Writ" or comments on such writ or comments to the comments on such
writ. If you want to pour over the Talmud, the Mishna, and all the
other material you chose to believe in, that's your affair. I'll have
a chocolate shake and a pork chop in front of my altar to Apollo, if
I feel like it. That's my affair. So my beliefs (or lack of them) have
nothing to do with your beliefs and adherence to them. Your folk-
tales are as valid for you as those of the Pawnee Indians are for
them. The difference, of course, is that those of the Pawnee were not
used to construct an "Export Model" as were yours, which were shoved
down the throat of Europeans at sword point.

I'm naturally a skeptic. I'm not an "easy sell." I'm also old enough
to remember when "The" Holocaust was INVENTED. Before about 1970,
the word did not exist (outside the vocabulary of those familiar with
ancient religious rites). The word appeared out of nowhere, as it
were, not long after Israel occuppied the West Bank. There was a big
broo-ha-ha about that, which led to an oil embargo against the U.S.
and a monstrous increase in the price of gasoline. People started to
say, "What's going on here?" The time for a REALLY hard sell had come,
and (probably right of out some office on Madison Ave.) materialized
the expression "The Holocaust." 

Then scholars began to look at WWII in general and the Nazi pogrom
against the Jews in particular, and the facts simply did not mesh with
the "evidence" presented at Nuremberg and all the other trials--when
they bothered to hold trials. Television mini-series were rushed into
production. Great selling job, but it does nothing to alter the resi-
due of HCn in the brick work of building which were supposed to be
deployed as 'round-the-clock extermination centers, where hapless
millions were gassed using a compound manufactured for killing lice,
which are the principal agents in transmitting typhus, a virulent dis-
ease which often arises in locals with poor sanitation facilities.

Then books began appearing by obstensibly reliable sources that the
mysicial, magical, dogmatic Six Million Jewish Victims (oh yeah, and
some Gypsies) of Nazi "genocide" (a word which didn't even exist until
1943) was absurdly high. That large numbers of Jews--and not just Jews
--died through criminal acts and natural causes (abetted by horrid
conditions and slave-labor)--but that the number was no where near six
million. Oppss ... REALLY hard sell time: build a MUSEUM.

A WHAT? A Museum? You mean to the Indians who were massacred at
Wounded Knee? No! To the victims of "The Holocaust"--which included
exactly ZERO Americans; therefore we build it in Washington D.C. Con-
gratulations, we have just entered The Twighlight Zone: $22 million
(mainly paid for by tax-deductible donations) for a museum in Washing-
ton, DC commemerating atrocities against non-Americans? NOW THAT'S
HARD SELL!!

Then, whammo, the bulk--not the whole, but the bulk--of the Myth
begins to fall apart. The Polish government OFFICIALLY reduces the
number of fatalities at Auschwitz, which has become the Eye of The
Holocaust, by 80%. E-i-g-h-t-y p-e-r-c-e-n-t! Does this in result in
an "adjustment" to the Mystical, Magicial, Canonical, and Dogmatic
Six Million? Not much, if any.  Then chemical studies are performed on
the fiednish gas chambers, and there's no residuum of HCn. In the
buildings where matresses and such were disinfected, the residuum
goes through the roof, but in the homicidal "gas chambers," there's no
significant residuum. The first one to expose this is an American
gineer, who designed also every gas chamber in the U.S. Not only is he
villified at every turn--he now finds out he's >persona non grata< and
unable to get employment. Hmmm....

Hang in there, it gets worse! A crack Polish team is send to Auschwitz
to rebut these findings--and ends up confirming them. Then squads from
other countries take a look at each and every one of them come up with
the same answer: IT COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED AS DESCRIBED!

Hey, why doesn't Nizkor send its own team of engineers and chemists?
They've awash in funds. No, just silence. Nobody is offering one shred
of impartial evidence that these technicians are WRONG.

And you're coming to me, saying "Now you stop calling me Randy Andy,
and don't you make any Crimethink comments about Revisionism ... or
I'll post your telephone number right here!" Careful, Andy, careful --
you'd better confer about extortion, especially as it's already been
documented and I'm sure the same sources will inform you about the
federal privacy legislation.

If you want to refute those with whom you disagree according to gener-
ally accepted standards of debate, I'm not going to villify you.
(Randy Andy is even a villification. Obviously you don't know what
"randy" means, and it's not insulting.) It seems to be your side which
has the monopoly on >ad hominum< insults, villifications, and the
like, and when they encounter someone who IS Jewish and STILL a
Revisionist, they go bonkers: there aren't enough vile names in the
lexicon to go around.

Well, to put matters straight: I'm a >goy<. I don't believe one shred
of any Jewish religious text, none of it. You should follow decent
manners in using the Internet, or be taken to task for rank abuse.
I'm led to the conclusion that the Nazi (and not just German) pogrom
of the Jews during WWII was a horrid, monstrous act--but not a unique
one. Compared to Stalin, Hitler was an altar-boy.

And you can take it from there.

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Fri Aug 30 08:39:51 PDT 1996
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libwca@curly.cc.emory.edu (william c anderson) wrote:

>Ursus Major (ursus_m@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>
>: I'm naturally a skeptic. I'm not an "easy sell." I'm also old enough
>: to remember when "The" Holocaust was INVENTED. Before about 1970,
>: the word did not exist (outside the vocabulary of those familiar with
>: ancient religious rites). The word appeared out of nowhere, as it
>: were, not long after Israel occuppied the West Bank. There was a big
>: broo-ha-ha about that, which led to an oil embargo against the U.S.
>: and a monstrous increase in the price of gasoline. People started to
>: say, "What's going on here?" The time for a REALLY hard sell had come,
>: and (probably right of out some office on Madison Ave.) materialized
>: the expression "The Holocaust." 
>
>Gee, that's funny--the OED disagrees with you.  I suppose the
>JOOS are in control of that, too, huh?
>
>

It may well have been used in specialized journals or among
select groups. It was not in COMMON use, however. I don't know
when homosexuals first began referring to themselves as "gay."
I know is was not in COMMON use as a surrogate term for "male
homosexual" until sometime in the 1970s.

If you had stopped someone on the street in, say, the 1960s and asked,
"What does is mean, if I say 'Bob is gay'? There response would have
been most likely, 'Well, it's a term usually associated with events or
females, but it means carefree and rather irresponsible.' In homosex-
ual circles and publications, it may have already acquired the meaning
is seems to have universally."

So too with the word "Holocaust"--or more correctly--"THE Holocaust.."
It did not acquire it's present recognition among the public at large
until the 70s. It may be indeed been in use (who am I to say?), but it
had no general recognition until that time. Don't weasel (that's
spelled w-e-a-s-e-l in this instance, and not w-i-e-s-e-l) out of
throw-away line in newspapers predating the era. If your ploy--and
that's all you engage in: ploys--is the spurious attempt to damn by
one argument (which is what you are trying to do), come up with the
title of a best-seller which had "The Holocaust" in it prior to the
1970s. For a word to be in use, means nothing. It has to be COMMONLY
understood to have significance.

Narry a peep from you on the level of HCn saturation in the "gas
chambers," however. Could it be that you're trying to distract atten-
tion from the REAL issue, which is Historical Veracity, by focusing on
a totally trivial side issue as to when "The Holocaust" became a
household word, for that's what I was talking about.

Now the question arises, as to when it became an as yet unnamed 
RELIGION--although "Holocaustomania" will do until something more
definative comes along--replete with Heretics (aka "self-hating" Jews:
has Yahuda Bauer made it there yet, like David Cole, Sam Kunkin and
all the rest?), Infidels (aka _goyische_ "Deniers"), an Index of Pro-
scribed Books, and the auto-de-fés when they can be carried out.

The problem is you CAN'T censor the Net. All you can do is to try to
destroy newsgroups, using meaningless side issues to malign the
integrity of the poster. Let's get down to the REAL issues: how many
tons of coke would it take to cremate x thousands of bodies in a 24-
hour-period? What's the level of HCn residue in "gas chambers" that
were used non-stop for mass-murder, as opposed to residue in the
actual living quarters of inmates. How many SS-personnel died of
typhus, just like the inmates, what about the fly-by photos showing no
trains of doomed victims, no hundreds of thousands of tons of coke
necessary to cremate the bodies, accurate camp records taken by
the Soviets and now held by the Russians, and Dr. Piper's videotape,
replete with new memorial stone: an 80% DECREASE in the OFFICIAL
(and highly suspect) figures, but NO CHANGE in the mystical, magical,
dogmatic SIX MILLION. This is just an updated version of Christ (you
know, the _mumzer_, the illegitimate son of Miriam and Panthera)
feeding the multitudes with a couple loaves and fishes. It's RELIGIOUS
DOGMA, so if you want to call the structure in Washington, The Temple
of Holocautomania, go ahead. It's called Freedom of (and from)
Religion. Call it what it is, A RELIGION, and you'll get scant static.
(Do the Mormons get static about Joe Smith's magic glasses?)
JUST DON'T CALL IT HISTORY, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FLY!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>Quite by accident, I found a vaguely interesting site earlier today at 
>
>http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~bb748/
>
>It's Kleim, of course, and he's remarkably unchanged.   
>
>Reading between the lines, it's pretty clear he and Schoedel were hoping to 
>get some attention (and, in Schoedel's case, clearly some speaking gigs) out 
>of the whole abandoning-the-failed-movement shtick, and it's clear it didn't 
>work.
>
>But Kleim's kinda klever -- he even includes a link to the quotes on Nizkor 
>that he used to whine were an illegal abuse of his copyright.  
>
>Leopard and spots and dog and vomit and all that . . .
>
>
Kleim and Schoedel? Weren't they a warm-up act at Grossinger's,
in the good ol' days, when it was safe for Rabbi Schiller's flock to
live in the Bronx?

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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Jim Vassallo  wrote:

>Ursus Major wrote:
>> 
>> Jim Vassallo  wrote:
>> 
>> >Jean A Robards wrote:
>> >
>> >(Snip of irrelevant stuff Jim doesn't want to talk about)
>> >  [snip] not by Ursus Major
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >I wish that was true. I could go on a holy crusade with God at my side and kill all
>> >sorts of dumb freaks like yourself. Unfortunately, it isn't. Read a book once and
>> >awhile, you might just learn something.
>> 
>> Why don't YOU practice what you preach? I suggest you start with an
>> unbiased book on "Witchomania": the madness which ran through
>> Europe for over 200 years, in which hundreds of thousands of people
>> --perhaps over a million!--were brutally executed as "witches," after
>> being subjected to tortures that would get you to confess to ANYTHING!
>
>First of all, were did you get the word "Witchomania?" What you are referring to is 
>known as the "Burning Times" my uneducated friend so it seems to me you've just 
>stepped upon a gnarled path you now little about.

I am referring to "Witchomania" a term used in a classic book entitled
_Extraordinary Delusions and Madness of Crowds_. It covers insane acts
like Witchomania, the Dutch Tulip Bubble, where sound-headed business
men spent their entire capital of a glorified onion, the Mississippi
Scheme, where a Scot financier ruined France by a wild speculation is
a company that was never really formed, the infamous South Sea Bubble,
which did nearly the same for England. As the book was first published
in the 1840s, later _Extraordinary Delusions and Madness of Crowds_
could not be covered in detail, but Witchomania [sic] was.

>>    It wasn't a Catholic show or a Protestant one: both sides tried to
>> out do each other as to how many "witches" they could burn. It even
>> spread to New England, where several were hanged and one poor devil
>> was pressed to death for refusing to enter a plea. (A board was placed
>> on his chest, and more and more weights added until he suffocated.)
>
>Here's a little bit of revisionist history for you seeing as how much of your ramblings 
>are based on heresy. While I do not disput the actions of the Church during this time 
>period it must be noted that facts have recently emerged changing historians perception 
>of the Burning Times.

What "facts"? You are a mere apologist for this monstrosity. I've seen
the "Hexenhaus" in Bamberg (a major burning center), which still has
the implements Holy Mother Church used to exact confessions: they
boggle the imagination. Of course, the "confession" was merely the
start. After the "witch" confessed, it was necessary to name all the 
OTHERS at the Satanic rituals, who were of course, subjected to the
same "persuation" to make their "confessions." Have you ever been
to Bamberg? (Tatsaechlich ist Bamberg eine schoene Stadt, und wurde im
Zweiten Weltkrieg nicht ganz zerzoert, wie viele aendere Staedte.)

 First it has been proven, although I'm afraid the studies are not 
>close at hand at the moment, that the number of deaths are not nearly as high as once 
>expected. The number of million has been thrown in the church's faces for century's by 
>liberals and, more recently, various commercialized Pagan groups but it turns out the 
>number isn't even close to that. 

Of course your "proof" isn't readily available. It doesn't exist. But
there does exist an exact record of a splendid auto-de-fe given by the
Archbishop of Tolouse, in which THOUSANDS were burned on one day,
and this went on for HUNDREDS OF YEARS!

>IT's also been shown, which I find a delicious irony in light of all the heat the 
>Church has taken over the years, that many of the accusations of witchcraft were done 
>by other women and other pagan groups.

Of course! Want to get rid of ANYBODY? Just bring a charge of
_Witchcraft_ and Holy Mother will get rid of them ... PRONTO!

 It seems the Burning Times brought out the 
>machiavellian political nature of all sides. 
>
>FYI, the Salem witch trials were perpetrated by a group of young women and the church 
>had no involvement what so ever. IF I recall one of the men who was hanged was a 
>preacher who had begun to "annoy" one of the girls.
>
>> Why did he refuse to enter a plea? Being being a witch or sorcerer was
>> a felony, and if convicted, all of one's property was confiscated. As
>> during Witchomania, to be CHARGED was to be CONVICTED, he at least
>> saved something for his family.
>
>And what a noble soul he was. Here's another history lesson for you, representitive 
>democracy did not exist until the 18th and 19th century. The "Burning Times" occured 
>during the 15th to 17th century. Equality, freedom et al, was not exactly high priority 
>on anyone's list. To blame christianity in entirety for this is moronic.

Actually, it goes back much earlier than that: to the compilation of a
book, whose Latin title translates as "The Witches' Hammer." Far from
being a product of the Dark Ages, it was shown that in the so-called
Dark Ages, charges of witchcraft were dismissed as delusions. But the
Chruch had had so much fun with the Albigensians and other heretics,
why stop? The begghards, the fraticielli, the Lombards--BURN 'EM ALL!
 
>> What other "religion"--anywhere, at any time in history--has come up
>> with something like that? And Witchomania was in full flower, while
>> people like Johannes Kepler and Galilleo were laying the foundation
>> for modern science.
>
>The Burning Times was motivated by politics. It was a way for the Catholic church to 
>slow the reformation, a way for the protestant church to preserve its growing numbers, 
>a way for pagan group A to eliminate pagan Group B, a way for quarreling neighbours to 
>get revenge and a way for housewives to gain noteriety and power within the community. 
>Somehow your warped logic follows along this line:

It happened long before there was any talk of the Reformation. The
Albigensians were EXTERMINATED in the 13th century. Luther was in the
16th century. The comment by the Bishop of Bezier to Simon de Monfort,
as the city of Bezier, part Bogomil, part orthodox Catholics was about
to surrender: "But, your Grace, how will we know which are the here-
tics and which are the faithful?" Simon de Monfort asked the bishop.
And how did the bishop reply? With true Christian LOVE: "KILL THEM
ALL! God will know his own." And so ever man, woman, and child of
Bezier was put to the sword ...
               ad magnam gloriam Dei!

>A christian killed a witch 400 years ago = All Christians are murderers.

Not a Christians, CHRISTIANITY, the Church, the institution. It was
BORN in intolerance and violent persecution. Augustine (the psycho
called "Saint") gave his approval, when the first victims were other
Christians: the Donatists. After they'd massacred their own--basically
over the Greek letter iota!!: the word "homousion" means "same sub-
stance" in Greek; the word "homo-i-ousion (just add an iota) means
"similar substance," and for that little quibble, whole cities were
put to the sword, populations massacred. So much so that when the
Muslims entered Egypt, they were welcomed as LIBERATORS from the
tyranny of the CHURCH	.

>Or perhaps you prefer:
>
>Hitler ruled Germany and killed jews = All Germans are Jew killers.

No, that's Goldhagen's insanity. "While Hitler ruled Germany, the Nazi
state killed Jews; therefore, the Nazi state was Jew killers."
Substitute Christian CHURCH for Nazi STATE and the analogy holds." It
is the Church, the power structure, which is the foul beast.

>Or better yet:
>
>2 + 2 = 5 because that's what I'd like to believe

No, that's what YOU'D like everybody to believe: Oh yes, there were
some unfortunate incidents over a period of say 3-400 years, in which
a few (a mere handfull really) were unjustly accused of witchcraft and
suffered as a result, but then nobody's perfect (except the Pope
speaking _ex cathedra_ on matters of faith and morals).
> 
>> Christianity isn't a religion; it's a MENTAL ABBERATION!
>
>I know you are... 

And I know you're a Professional Apologist for a foul and vile thing,
which has sat upon Western Man for 2,000 years: the Great Guilt
Machine, oozing sado-masochistic perverion on its temple walls!



MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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Hasn't occurred to anyone that if they'd just left Austria-Hungary 
alone in 1914, we'd have none of this scuzz to put up with.

True the idea of the world lobbing whipped-cream on top of
coffee and dancing waltzes does strike one as weird.

You know, like he'd died and gone to heaven!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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Hasn't occurred to anyone that if they'd just left Austria-Hungary 
alone in 1914, we'd have none of this scuzz to put up with.

True the idea of the world lobbing whipped-cream on top of
coffee and dancing waltzes does strike one as weird.

You know, like he'd died and gone to heaven!

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And we can thank a Serbian terrorist for destroying the world!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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Hasn't occurred to anyone that if they'd just left Austria-Hungary 
alone in 1914, we'd have none of this scuzz to put up with.

True the idea of the world lobbing whipped-cream on top of
coffee and dancing waltzes does strike one as weird.

You know, like he'd died and gone to heaven!

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And we can thank a Serbian terrorist for destroying the world!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Aug 31 20:44:31 PDT 1996
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David Irving, the renouned British Historian, will be speaking at the
Marriot Hotel in Newport Beach, CA on September 7th. Irving, who
specializes in the history of World War II was propelled to the front
ranks of historians of this era by his 1963 study on the annihilation
of the defenseless city of Dresden by British and American bombers.

Irving's technique has been, whenever possible, to work from source
documents, not easily-tainted "eyewitness" reports. His reliance on
hardcopy source material resulted in his becoming a Revisionist, and
one of the most hated by the devotees of Holocaustomania.

His most recent book is a biography of Josef Goebbels, Hiter's "Evil
Genius": the Propaganda Minister of the Third Reich. It was to be
published by St. Martin's Press; however, the entire "clergy" of Holo-
caustomania (which has ceased being concerned with history and has
turned into an ersatz-religion), headed by Arch-Priestess Deborah
Lipstadt, brought all the power they could muster--AND IT'S IMPRESSIVE
(ask Marlon Brando)--on St. Martin's Press to cancel the publication
of Irving's book. When confronted with the choice of publishing
Irving's book or going out of business, St. Martin's caved in.
(Watching Lipstadt and her minions in action gives one the impression
that the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" currently being circulated
is the EXPURGATED version!)

The speech is scheduled for 7 P.M. on Sat., Sept. 7th, at the Marriot
Hotel in Newport Beach. The fee is $10, payable at the door. Even
though it's a good two hour drive for me (got that Joel?), I wouldn't
miss it. I recommend it to anyone interested in how The Power of the
Purse can be used to stiffle Freedom of the Press.

DAVID IRVING / MARRIOT, NEWPORT BEACH, CA / 9-7 7PM

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


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Hasn't occurred to anyone that if they'd just left Austria-Hungary 
alone in 1914, we'd have none of this scuzz to put up with.

True the idea of the world lobbing whipped-cream on top of
coffee and dancing waltzes does strike one as weird.

You know, like he'd died and gone to heaven!

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And we can thank a Serbian terrorist for destroying the world!

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"


From ursus_m@ix.netcom.com Sat Aug 31 22:05:25 PDT 1996
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joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg) wrote:

>From: joelr@winternet.com (Joel Rosenberg)
>Subject: George Lehmann of Sunnyvale CA is NOT our George "Ursus Major" Lehmann
>Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:12:48

Well written, Joel.

Not Gore Vidal or Norman Mailer, or even Kurt Vonnegut, who survived
the terror bombing of Dresden. (He was a POW whom the Nazi beasts
sent to work each day on the streetcar. As he didn't speak German, he
had to learn the address of his camp: >Schagthof 5<, in case he got 
lost. It was the old stockyards, but the Germans had long since been
without meat, so it became a refugee camp and POW compound.
   Fortunately, the old slaughterhouse had deep cellars, so the POWs
and their German guards--in such situations, the only enemy is Death--
survived the terror-bombing of the defenseless city. 100,000-120,000
(maybe more, maybe less: no one will ever know, because the city
was filled with refugees and POWs; it was an open city--undefended and
therefore immune from attack according to the Geneva Convention ...
but the British and Americans forgot [?]) perished in a real Holo-
caust--a baroque one at that. Vonnegut finally found the courage to
describe it, and used his address (translated) as the title:
>Slaughterhouse Five<.

No, definately not Kurt Vonnegut. But still well written, Joel.

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MULTAE GENTES, UNA STIRPES!
      "Ursus Major"



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