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John Baglow writes:
>A third possibility is that he is in fact Milton Kleim Jr., with yet
>another pseudonym. To investigate this, however, would require reading
>numerous back issues of that bonehead journal, Instauration, a task I
>don't wish on anyone.
That's the *really* intelligent comment of the week! Me defending Turks...
and Hell just froze over.
I state for the record that I am not, have nothing to do with, and will never
have anything to do with the so-called "Serdar Argic."
-- HERMANN
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Subject: Auf Wiedersehen!
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This will come as a surprise but I am leaving this group for an indefinite period. I leave voluntarily and without coercion of
any kind. I leave because more important duties require my attention (duties which you will not have the privilege to know
of).
I must laugh at you Holocaust Myth defenders. I have won and you have lost. No, I didn't convince many of the points I
presented, but yet I still won. You have wanted me off this group since the beginning; you have threatened me, attempted
to insult me, tried psychologically to drive me from alt.revisionism, but yet after five months, I AM STILL HERE!
I concede that little has been accomplished by my actions on this group. However, if I caused the doubt in the Holocaust
Myth of only one person, my objective was achieved. Of course I have been overwhelmingly outnumbered by a motley crew
of liars, misguided but well-meaning individuals, and the ever-present Jews, but my "experiment" has given me many
insights into dealing with the ideological blight which plagues our society. I have made many mistakes -- factual,
grammatical, and tactical -- but I have gained from these errors. I am stronger and wiser because my detractors have
unwittingly taught me valuable lessons.
I had hoped to post a major and possibly devastating rebuttal to the lies posted regarding the Holocaust Myth, but my
new duties have put my research -- conducted since December -- on permanent hold. My accumulated material [*] that
demonstrates the contradictory nature of the Holocaust "evidence," where the notorious "eyewitnesses" testify to
infinitely different versions of impossible happenings, unsubstantiated subjective conclusions (usually based upon
"findings" by other "historians") of "Holocaust scholars," and "certified true copies" of mimeographed copies of
a microfilm copy of an "original" microfilm of a "certified true copy" of a "document" "captured" by the Soviets
serves as "incontrovertible evidence" of "exterminations" via "gas chambers," "electro-chambers," and "steam-
chambers" of a population of Jews whose numbers were grossly exaggerated, shall have to be used for my future
endeavors. Unfortunately, my expertise, as I have said before, is *not* historical revisionism (it is National
Socialism, racial science, and the Jewish Question); if it was, I could have much more easily have countered the
deliberate falsehoods, and the foolish myths repeated incessantly by the slavish mass to please their Jewish masters.
My inability to access many of the documents and other works I once possessed severely handicapped my assaults on the
Holocaust Myth; my lack of preparation is a feeble but honest excuse for the inpotence I have shown against the
zealous work and specialization Ken McVay and Danny Keren have performed. I entered this circus-like arena -- to
be ridiculed and laughed at -- because it was necessary to speak up against relatively unchallenged intellectual
sewage; as one of Arthur's maxims went, "Seeing the need, we assume the responsibility."
The Jew rules only through fear, an atmosphere of conscious and subconscious terror permeating every facet of society
generated by strategic planning, a socially-caustic mix of money, myth, media, and manipulative politics being the
empowering dynamoes of the grand plan. The Jew can only be defeated with courage -- a rejection of the "Big Lies"
which he spews, and the countering of this through the dissemination of truth and wisdom. Only blasphemy against
Jew-worship infuriates him, for only the dismissal of the terrible fear instilled in nearly all of Gentile humankind
can defeat him.
I do not offer any apologies whatsoever for my beliefs. I offer no apologies for the expression of those beliefs on
this group, or on alt.skinheads. I have revealed the heartfelt thoughts of a National Socialist with bold honesty.
I have not been afraid to speak the truth.
I end with encouragement and criticism for Dan Gannon. While I strongly support his efforts at disseminating the
feared truth about the Holocaust Myth, I would recommend that he focus his posts and direct them to more specific
groups. He has done good work in the past, and I wish him the best on the Net in the years to come.
Der Sieg Wird Unser Sein!
-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
The much hated "HERMANN"
-- No Guilt -- No Remorse --
-- White Pride -- White Power! --
I reserve the right to respond to undue criticism of this post. This will be reposted once in the near future.
====================================================================================================================================
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* The following is a small sampling of the material I have gathered in the past two months. It is by no means exhaustive of any
aspect of the Holocaust Myth.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Unholy High Priests of the Holocaust Myth contradict themselves:
"...there were no extermination camps on German soil..." [1]
-- Simon Wiesenthal
"In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 to their deaths each day." [2]
-- Elie Wiesel
----------
An historian respected by the Holocaust Mythologists makes this absurd and impossible assertion:
"...in the spring and early summer of 1942...hundreds of thousands of Jews were being gassed every
day at Belzec, Chelmno, Sobibor, and Treblinka." [3]
-- Martin Gilbert
----------
Although we are told constantly the value of "eyewitnesses" to "gassings," we learn this unexpected fact:
"Filip Mueller's book is a unique document indeed: it is the testimony of the only man who saw the
Jewish people die and lived to tell what he saw." [4]
-- Widely-respected Jewish historian Yehuda Bauer
----------
An example of the unreliability of "eyewitness testimony" is seen in a laughable claim cited by the most respected
"Holocaust survivor" regarding the infamous Babi Yar:
"Eyewitnesses say that for months after the killings the ground continued to spurt geysers of blood." [5]
----------
In a display of necessary "damage-control," Jewish historian Arno J. Mayer concedes points revisionists have forwarded:
Although Holocaust Mythologists such as Deborah Lipstadt claim there can be no debate
with "Holocaust Deniers," Mayer says this --
"...historians are expected to avow their own prejudices and to probe those of their sources. No
less important, they invite critics, both friendly and hostile, to verify the authenicity and re-
liability of their evidence as well as to debate the logic of their constructions and the coher-
ence of their explanations." [6]
"Holocaust scholars" assert that undeniable facts buttress the extermination thesis, yet in reality
this "evidence" is phantasmic:
"No written document containing or reporting an explicit command to exterminate the Jews has come
to light thus far." [7]
The following is part of the text of the famous letter from Goering to Heydrich of July 31, 1941, generally
held as an early directive to "exterminate" the Jews --
"This is to supplement the assignment given to you in the decree of January 24, 1939, to solve the Jewish
question by emigration or evacuation under the most favorable conditions possible given present circum-
stances. I hereby charge you to make all the necessary administrative, practical, and financial prep-
arations for a _Gesamtloesung_ of the Jewish question throughout Germany's European sphere of influ-
ence."
About which Mayer says --
"There is nothing in these instructions, either explicit or implicit, to indicate that by directing
Heydrich to prepare an overall and definitive solution -- a final solution -- of the 'Jewish
problem,' Goering was asking him to prepare for the immediate or eventual mass murder of Jews." [8]
Although we are told that the evidence in support of homicidal gas chambers is "overwhelming,"
and that "eyewitnesses" can offer accurate accounts of happenings at the German camps, Mayer
tells us --
"Sources for the study of the gas chambers are at once rare and unreliable...No written orders
for gassing have turned up thus far...Most of what is known is based on the depositions of Nazi
officials and executioners at postwar trials and on the memory of survivors and bystanders. This
testimony must be screened carefully, since it can be influenced by subjective factors of great
complexity..."
"...there is no denying the many contradictions, ambiguities, and errors in existing sources." [9]
The standard line of the Holocaust Myth is that over a million Jews were "gassed" at Auschwitz,
yet Mayer writes --
"...from 1942 to 1945, certainly at Auschwitz, but probably overall, more Jews were killed by
so-called 'natural' causes than by 'unnatural' ones." [10]
We are assured by Holocaust Myth defenders that at least five million but closer to six million
Jews were killed by the Germans. When asked how these numbers were established, obfuscation is
dispensed. If one presses the Holocaust Myth defenders, he or she is accused of "anti-Semitism."
Mayer is more honest concerning the facts --
"All in all, how many bodies were cremated at Auschwitz? How many died there all told?...
We have simply no answers to these questions at this time." [11]
----------
Danny Keren has said that he accepts German documents as genuine. Let him try to explain away the following:
"...camp doctors must use all means at their disposal to reduce essentially this death rate in the various
camps." [12]
"The camp doctors must supervise more often than in the past the food of the prisoners and, with the
approval of the administration, submit improvement proposals to the camp commandants. These, however,
must not only appear on paper, but must be controlled regularly by the camp doctors. Furthermore,
the camp doctors are to see to it that the working conditions at the various labor places are im-
proved as much as possible. To this purpose it will be necessary that the camp doctors inspect the
labor places on the ground and convince themselves about the conditions of work."
"The SS Reichsfuehrer has ordered that the death rate absolutely must be reduced." [13]
-- Extracts from a secret memorandum from the SS Main Office
of Economic Administration to all concentration camps,
including Auschwitz,
December 28, 1942
"_The fact that the Fuehrer intends to evacuate all Jews from Europe was communicated to me as early
as August 1940..._"
"Hence the basic _instruction of the_ Reich Foreign Minister, to promote the evacuation of the Jews
in closest cooperation with the agencies of the Reich Leader SS, is still in force..." [14]
"_In his letter of 24 June 1940...SS Major General Heydrich informed the Reich Foreign Mini-
ster that the whole problem of the approximately three and a quarter million Jews in the areas
under German control can no longer be solved by emigration -- a territorial final solution
(territorial Endloesung) would be necessary_."
"_In recognition of this Reich Marshal Goering on 31 July 1941 commissioned SS Major General
Heydrich to make, in conjunction with the interested German Control agencies, all necessary
preparations for a total solution (Gesamtloesung) of the Jewish problem in the German sphere
of influence in Europe_...In the conference General Heydrich explained that Reich Marshal Goering's
assignment to him had been made on the Fuehrer's instruction _and that the Fuehrer instead of
emigration had now authorized the evacuation of the Jews to the East as the solution_..." [15]
"_The intended deportations are a further step forward on the way of the total solution...The
deportation to the Government General is a temporary measure. The Jews will be moved on fur-
ther to the Occupied Eastern Territories as soon as the technical conditions for it are
given_." [16]
-- Extracts from a memorandum of August 21, 1942, by
Unterstaatssekretaer Martin Luther,
Director of Abteilung Deutschland of the
Reich Foreign Ministry, and attendee at
the "Wannsee Conference"
----------
To this day, thousands of G.I.s would swear that they witnessed deliberate and calculated murder of
inmates at the concentration camps they captured, despite Simon Wiesenthal's admission that "there
were no extermination camps on German soil." Are they lying? Or merely misinterpreting what they
saw -- disease and famine, common in war -- for something they were *told* they saw -- a policy of
genocide? One responsible eyewitness, Dr. John E. Gordon, explains why Allied Forces encountered so
many dead and dying inmates:
"The outbreaks in concentration camps and prisons made up the great bulk of typhus infection en-
countered in Germany...Germany was in chaos. The destruction of whole cities and the path left by
advancing armies produced a disruption of living conditions contributing to the spread of the
disease. Sanitation was low grade, public utilities were seriously disrupted, food supply and
food distribution were poor, housing was inadequate and order and discipline were everywhere
lacking. Still more important, a shifting of populations was occurring such as few countries
and few times have experienced." [17]
----------
A "fact" circulated during the war and for decades afterwards, having the same evidential level as the "fact" of the
"gas chambers," is now declared to be false. "Holocaust scholar" Deborah Lipstadt admits:
"The fact is that the Nazis never used the bodies of Jews, or for that matter anyone else, for
the production of soap. The soap rumor was prevalent both during and after the war. It may have
had its origin in the cadaver factory atrocity story that came out of World War I...The soap rumor
was thoroughly investigated after the war and proved to be untrue." [18]
----------
What do Jews stand to gain from the "Holocaust" fraud? Read on:
"With regard to Israel, the Holocaust may be used to forestall political criticism and suppress
debate; it reinforces the sense of Jews as an eternally beleaguered people who can rely for
their defense only upon themselves. The invocation of the suffering endured by the Jews under
the Nazis often takes the place of rational argument, and is expected to convince doubters
of the legitimacy of current Israeli Government policy." [19]
-- Paula E. Hyman
"The devastating barb: 'There's no business like _Shoah_ business' is, sad to say, a recog-
nizable truth." [20]
-- Leon A. Jick
----------
Although there is an attitude of required veneration for St. Elie, the notorious lying hypocrite and illegitimate
recipient of the 1986 Nobel Peace Prize promotes feelings much different than the saintly ideals he is commonly
believed to:
"Every Jew, somewhere in his being, should set apart a zone of hate -- healthy, virile hate -- for what
the German personifies and for what persists in the German." [21]
----------
The hate-centered, profit-driven Cult of the Holocaust will be obliterated at the latest by the end of this century.
I am glad to have played a small part in its exposure and exorcision.
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NOTES
[Underlining in quoted text denotes original italics]
#1: Wiesenthal, Simon. "Letters from," in _Books and Bookmen_, April 1975, p. 5.
#2: Wiesel, Elie. Quoted in "Author, Teacher, Witness," in _Time_, March 18, 1985, p. 79.
#3: Gilbert, Martin. _Auschwitz and the Allies_ (New York: Holt, Rinehart and Winston, 1981), p. 26.
#4: Bauer, Yehuda. Foreward to _Eyewitness Auschwitz: Three Years in the Gas Chambers_, by Filip Mueller, edited and
translated by Susanne Flatauer (New York: Stein and Day, 1979), p. xi.
#5: Wiesel, Elie. _The Jews of Silence: A Personal Report on Soviet Jewry_, translated by Neal Kozodoy (New York: Holt,
Rinehart and Winston, 1966), p. 35.
#6: Mayer, Arno J. _Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?: The "Final Solution" in History_ (New York: Pantheon, 1988). p. 17.
#7: _Ibid_, p. 235.
#8: _Ibid_, pp. 291-292.
#9: _Ibid_, pp. 362-363.
#10: _Ibid_, p. 365.
#11: _Ibid_, p. 366.
#12: "Document 2171-PS, Annex II," in _Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, Volume IV_ (Washington: U.S. Government Printing
Office, 1946), p. 833.
#13: _Ibid_, p. 834.
#14: "Partial translation of Document NG-2586-J," in _Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunals Under
Control Council Law No. 10, Nuernberg October 1946 - April 1949, Volume XIII_ (Washington: U.S. Government Printing
Office, 1952). p. 244.
#15: _Ibid_, p. 245.
#16: _Ibid_, p. 249.
#17: Gordon, John E. "Louse-Borne Typhus Fever in the European Theater of Operations, U.S. Army, 1945," in _Rickettsial
Diseases of Man_, edited by Forest Ray Moulton (Washington: American Association for the Advancement of Science,
1948), pp. 25-26.
#18: Lipstadt, Deborah. "Nazi Soap Rumor During World War II," in _The Los Angeles Times_, May 16, 1981, Part II, p. 2.
#19: Hyman, Paula E. "New Debate on the Holocaust," in _New York Times Magazine_, September 14, 1980, p. 79.
#20: Jick, Leon A. "The Holocaust: Its Use and Abuse Within the American Public," in _Yad Vashem Studies, Volume
XIV_, edited by Livia Rothkirchen (Jerusalem: Yad Vashem Martyrs' and Heroes' Rememberance Authority, 1981),
p. 316.
#21: Wiesel, Elie. _Legends of Our Time_ (New York: Holt, Rinehart and Winston, 1968), p. 142.
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"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed that all right-thinking people will accept
without question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the other, but it is 'not done'...Anyone who challenges
the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness. A genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost
never given a fair hearing, either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals."
-- George Orwell
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Subject: Auf Wiedersehen! (Repost)
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I am leaving this group for an indefinite period. I leave voluntarily
and without coercion of any kind. I leave because more important duties
require my attention (duties which you will not have the privilege to
know of).
I must laugh at you Holocaust Myth defenders. I have won and you have lost.
No, I didn't convince many of the points I presented, but yet I still won.
You have wanted me off this group since the beginning; you have threatened
me, attempted to insult me, tried psychologically to drive me from
alt.revisionism, but yet after five months, I WAS STILL HERE!
I concede that little has been accomplished by my actions on this group.
However, if I caused the doubt in the Holocaust Myth of only one person,
my objective was achieved. Of course I have been overwhelmingly outnumbered
by a motley crew of liars, misguided but well-meaning individuals, and the
ever-present Jews, but my "experiment" has given me many insights into
dealing with the ideological blight which plagues our society. I have made
many mistakes -- factual, grammatical, and tactical -- but I have gained from
these errors. I am stronger and wiser because my detractors have unwittingly
taught me valuable lessons.
I had hoped to post a major and possibly devastating rebuttal to the lies
posted regarding the Holocaust Myth, but my new duties have put my research
-- conducted since December -- on permanent hold. My accumulated material [*]
that demonstrates the contradictory nature of the Holocaust "evidence,"
where the notorious "eyewitnesses" testify to infinitely different versions
of impossible happenings, unsubstantiated subjective conclusions (usually
based upon "findings" by other "historians") of "Holocaust scholars," and
"certified true copies" of mimeographed copies of a microfilm copy of an
"original" microfilm of a "certified true copy" of a "document" "captured"
by the Soviets serves as "incontrovertible evidence" of "exterminations"
via "gas chambers," "electro-chambers," and "steam-chambers" of a population
of Jews whose numbers were grossly exaggerated, shall have to be used for my
future endeavors. Unfortunately, my expertise, as I have said before, is
*not* historical revisionism (it is National Socialism, racial science, and
the Jewish Question); if it was, I could have much more easily have countered
the deliberate falsehoods, and the foolish myths repeated incessantly by the
slavish mass to please their Jewish masters. My inability to access many of
the documents and other works I once possessed severely handicapped my
assaults on the Holocaust Myth; my lack of preparation is a feeble but honest
excuse for the inpotence I have shown against the zealous work and speciali-
zation Ken McVay and Danny Keren have performed. I entered this circus-like
arena -- to be ridiculed and laughed at -- because it was necessary to speak
up against relatively unchallenged intellectual sewage; as one of Arthur's
maxims went, "Seeing the need, we assume the responsibility."
The Jew rules only through fear, an atmosphere of conscious and subconscious
terror permeating every facet of society generated by strategic planning, a
socially-caustic mix of money, myth, media, and manipulative politics being
the empowering dynamoes of the grand plan. The Jew can only be defeated with
courage -- a rejection of the "Big Lies" which he spews, and the countering of
this through the dissemination of truth and wisdom. Only blasphemy against
Jew-worship infuriates him, for only the dismissal of the terrible fear in-
stilled in nearly all of Gentile humankind can defeat him.
I do not offer any apologies whatsoever for my beliefs. I offer no apologies
for the expression of those beliefs on this group, or on alt.skinheads. I
have revealed the heartfelt thoughts of a National Socialist with bold honesty.
I have not been afraid to speak the truth.
I end with encouragement and criticism for Dan Gannon. While I strongly
support his efforts at disseminating the feared truth about the Holocaust
Myth, I would recommend that he focus his posts and direct them to more
specific groups. He has done good work in the past, and I wish him the best
on the Net in the years to come.
Der Sieg Wird Unser Sein!
-- Milton John Kleim, Jr.
The much hated "HERMANN"
-- No Guilt -- No Remorse --
-- White Pride -- White Power! --
I reserve the right to respond to undue criticism of this post.
==========================================================================
==========================================================================
* The following is a small sampling of the material I have gathered in the
past two months. It is by no means exhaustive of any aspect of the
Holocaust Myth. The following material may be reposted IN ITS ENTIRETY
with or without credit to the original poster.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Unholy High Priests of the Holocaust Myth contradict themselves:
"...there were no extermination camps on German soil..." [1]
-- Simon Wiesenthal
"In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 to their deaths each day." [2]
-- Elie Wiesel
----------
An historian respected by the Holocaust Mythologists makes this absurd and
impossible assertion:
"...in the spring and early summer of 1942...hundreds of
thousands of Jews were being gassed every day at Belzec, Chelmno,
Sobibor, and Treblinka." [3]
-- Martin Gilbert
----------
Although we are told constantly the value of "eyewitnesses" to "gassings," we
learn this unexpected fact:
"Filip Mueller's book is a unique document indeed: it is the
testimony of the only man who saw the Jewish people die and lived
to tell what he saw." [4]
-- Widely-respected Jewish historian
Yehuda Bauer
----------
An example of the unreliability of "eyewitness testimony" is seen in a
laughable claim cited by the most respected "Holocaust survivor" regarding
the infamous Babi Yar:
"Eyewitnesses say that for months after the killings the ground
continued to spurt geysers of blood." [5]
----------
In a display of necessary "damage-control," Jewish historian Arno J. Mayer
concedes points revisionists have forwarded:
Although Holocaust Mythologists such as Deborah Lipstadt claim
there can be no debate with "Holocaust Deniers," Mayer says
this --
"...historians are expected to avow their own prejudices and to
probe those of their sources. No less important, they invite critics,
both friendly and hostile, to verify the authenicity and reliability
of their evidence as well as to debate the logic of their con-
structions and the coherence of their explanations." [6]
"Holocaust scholars" assert that undeniable facts buttress the
extermination thesis, yet in reality this "evidence" is
phantasmic --
"No written document containing or reporting an explicit command
to exterminate the Jews has come to light thus far." [7]
The following is part of the text of the famous letter from Goering
to Heydrich of July 31, 1941, generally held as an early directive
to "exterminate" the Jews --
"This is to supplement the assignment given to you in the decree
of January 24, 1939, to solve the Jewish question by emigration or
evacuation under the most favorable conditions possible given present
circumstances. I hereby charge you to make all the necessary admini-
strative, practical, and financial preparations for a _Gesamtloesung_
of the Jewish question throughout Germany's European sphere of influ-
ence."
About which Mayer says --
"There is nothing in these instructions, either explicit or implicit,
to indicate that by directing Heydrich to prepare an overall and defini-
tive solution -- a final solution -- of the 'Jewish problem,' Goering
was asking him to prepare for the immediate or eventual mass murder of
Jews." [8]
Although we are told that the evidence in support of homicidal
gas chambers is "overwhelming," and that "eyewitnesses" can offer
accurate accounts of happenings at the German camps, Mayer tells
us --
"Sources for the study of the gas chambers are at once rare
and unreliable...No written orders for gassing have turned up
thus far...Most of what is known is based on the depositions of
Nazi officials and executioners at postwar trials and on the memory
of survivors and bystanders. This testimony must be screened care-
fully, since it can be influenced by subjective factors of great
complexity..."
"...there is no denying the many contradictions, ambiguities,
and errors in existing sources." [9]
The standard line of the Holocaust Myth is that over a million
Jews were "gassed" at Auschwitz, yet Mayer writes --
"...from 1942 to 1945, certainly at Auschwitz, but probably
overall, more Jews were killed by so-called 'natural' causes than
by 'unnatural' ones." [10]
We are assured by Holocaust Myth defenders that at least five
million but closer to six million Jews were killed by the Germans.
When asked how these numbers were established, obfuscation is
dispensed. If one presses the Holocaust Myth defenders, he or
she is accused of "anti-Semitism." Mayer is more honest con-
cerning the facts --
"All in all, how many bodies were cremated at Auschwitz? How many
died there all told?...We have simply no answers to these questions
at this time." [11]
----------
Danny Keren has said that he accepts German documents as genuine. Let him try
to explain away the following:
"...camp doctors must use all means at their disposal to reduce
essentially this death rate in the various camps." [12]
"The camp doctors must supervise more often than in the past the
food of the prisoners and, with the approval of the administration,
submit improvement proposals to the camp commandants. These, however,
must not only appear on paper, but must be controlled regularly by the
camp doctors. Furthermore, the camp doctors are to see to it that the
working conditions at the various labor places are improved as much as
possible. To this purpose it will be necessary that the camp doctors
inspect the labor places on the ground and convince themselves about
the conditions of work."
"The SS Reichsfuehrer has ordered that the death rate absolutely
must be reduced." [13]
-- Extracts from a secret memorandum
from the SS Main Office
of Economic Administration to all
concentration camps,
including Auschwitz,
December 28, 1942
"_The fact that the Fuehrer intends to evacuate all Jews from
Europe was communicated to me as early as August 1940..._"
"Hence the basic _instruction of the_ Reich Foreign Minister,
to promote the evacuation of the Jews in closest cooperation with
the agencies of the Reich Leader SS, is still in force..." [14]
"_In his letter of 24 June 1940...SS Major General Heydrich
informed the Reich Foreign Minister that the whole problem of the
approximately three and a quarter million Jews in the areas under
German control can no longer be solved by emigration -- a terri-
torial final solution (territorial Endloesung) would be necessary_."
"_In recognition of this Reich Marshal Goering on 31 July 1941
commissioned SS Major General Heydrich to make, in conjunction with
the interested German Control agencies, all necessary preparations
for a total solution (Gesamtloesung) of the Jewish problem in the
German sphere of influence in Europe_...In the conference General
Heydrich explained that Reich Marshal Goering's assignment to him
had been made on the Fuehrer's instruction _and that the Fuehrer
instead of emigration had now authorized the evacuation of the Jews
to the East as the solution_..." [15]
"_The intended deportations are a further step forward on the
way of the total solution...The deportation to the Government
General is a temporary measure. The Jews will be moved on fur-
ther to the Occupied Eastern Territories as soon as the technical
conditions for it are given_." [16]
-- Extracts from a memorandum of
August 21, 1942, by
Unterstaatssekretaer Martin
Luther, Director of Abteilung
Deutschland of the Reich
Foreign Ministry, and attendee at
the "Wannsee Conference"
----------
To this day, thousands of G.I.s would swear that they witnessed deliberate and
calculated murder of inmates at the concentration camps they captured, despite
Simon Wiesenthal's admission that "there were no extermination camps on German
soil." Are they lying? Or merely misinterpreting what they saw -- disease
and famine, common in wartime -- for something they were *told* they saw -- a
policy of genocide? One responsible eyewitness, Dr. John E. Gordon, explains
why Allied Forces encountered so many dead and dying inmates:
"The outbreaks in concentration camps and prisons made up the
great bulk of typhus infection encountered in Germany...Germany
was in chaos. The destruction of whole cities and the path left by
advancing armies produced a disruption of living conditions con-
tributing to the spread of the disease. Sanitation was low grade,
public utilities were seriously disrupted, food supply and food
distribution were poor, housing was inadequate and order and
discipline were everywhere lacking. Still more important, a
shifting of populations was occurring such as few countries and
few times have experienced." [17]
----------
A "fact" circulated during the war and for decades afterwards, having the
same evidential level as the "fact" of the "gas chambers," is now declared
to be false. "Holocaust scholar" Deborah Lipstadt admits:
"The fact is that the Nazis never used the bodies of Jews, or
for that matter anyone else, for the production of soap. The soap
rumor was prevalent both during and after the war. It may have had
its origin in the cadaver factory atrocity story that came out of
World War I...The soap rumor was thoroughly investigated after the
war and proved to be untrue." [18]
----------
What do Jews stand to gain from the "Holocaust" fraud? Read on:
"With regard to Israel, the Holocaust may be used to forestall
political criticism and suppress debate; it reinforces the sense
of Jews as an eternally beleaguered people who can rely for their
defense only upon themselves. The invocation of the suffering
endured by the Jews under the Nazis often takes the place of
rational argument, and is expected to convince doubters of the
legitimacy of current Israeli Government policy." [19]
-- Paula E. Hyman
"The devastating barb: 'There's no business like _Shoah_
business' is, sad to say, a recognizable truth." [20]
-- Leon A. Jick
----------
Although there is an attitude of required veneration for St. Elie, the
notorious hypocrite and illegitimate recipient of the 1986 Nobel Peace
Prize promotes feelings much different than the saintly ideals he is commonly
believed to:
"Every Jew, somewhere in his being, should set apart a zone
of hate -- healthy, virile hate -- for what the German personifies
and for what persists in the German." [21]
----------
The hate-centered, profit-driven Cult of the Holocaust will be obliterated at
the latest by the end of this century. I am glad to have played a small part
in its exposure and exorcision.
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NOTES
[Underlining in quoted text denotes original italics]
#1: Wiesenthal, Simon. "Letters from," in _Books and Bookmen_, April 1975,
p. 5.
#2: Wiesel, Elie. Quoted in "Author, Teacher, Witness," in _Time_, March
18, 1985, p 79.
#3: Gilbert, Martin. _Auschwitz and the Allies_ (New York: Holt, Rinehart
and Winston, 1981), p. 26.
#4: Bauer, Yehuda. Foreward to _Eyewitness Auschwitz: Three Years in the
Gas Chambers_, by Filip Mueller, edited and translated by Susanne
Flatauer (New York: Stein and Day, 1979), p. xi.
#5: Wiesel, Elie. _The Jews of Silence: A Personal Report on Soviet
Jewry_, translated by Neal Kozodoy (New York: Holt, Rinehart
and Winston, 1966), p. 35.
#6: Mayer, Arno J. _Why Did the Heavens Not Darken?: The "Final
Solution" in History_ (New York: Pantheon, 1988). p. 17.
#7: _Ibid_, p. 235.
#8: _Ibid_, pp. 291-292.
#9: _Ibid_, pp. 362-363.
#10: _Ibid_, p. 365.
#11: _Ibid_, p. 366.
#12: "Document 2171-PS, Annex II," in _Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression,
Volume IV_ (Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office,
1946), p. 833.
#13: _Ibid_, p. 834.
#14: "Partial translation of Document NG-2586-J," in _Trials of War
Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunal Under
Control Council Law No. 10, Nuernberg October 1946 -
April 1949, Volume XIII_ (Washington: U.S. Government
Printing Office, 1952). p. 244.
#15: _Ibid_, p. 245.
#16: _Ibid_, p. 249.
#17: Gordon, John E. "Louse-Borne Typhus Fever in the European
Theater of Operations, U.S. Army, 1945," in _Rickettsial
Diseases of Man_, edited by Forest Ray Moulton (Washington:
American Association for the Advancement of Science, 1948),
pp. 25-26.
#18: Lipstadt, Deborah. "Nazi Soap Rumor During World War II," in
_The Los Angeles Times_, May 16, 1981, Part II, p. 2.
#19: Hyman, Paula E. "New Debate on the Holocaust," in _New York
Times Magazine_, September 14, 1980, p. 79.
#20: Jick, Leon A. "The Holocaust: Its Use and Abuse Within
the American Public," in _Yad Vashem Studies, Volume
XIV_, edited by Livia Rothkirchen (Jerusalem: Yad
Vashem Martyrs' and Heroes' Rememberance Authority,
1981), p. 316.
#21: Wiesel, Elie. _Legends of Our Time_ (New York: Holt,
Rinehart and Winston, 1968), p. 142.
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"At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which
it is assumed that all right-thinking people will accept without
question. It is not exactly forbidden to state this or that or the
other, but it is 'not done'...Anyone who challenges the prevailing
orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness. A
genuinely unfashionable opinion is almost never given a fair hearing,
either in the popular press or in the highbrow periodicals."
-- George Orwell
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Four friends have monitored this group -- one in Europe, one in
Washington, and two in California -- for me, and have forwarded the recent
posts commenting on my departure from alt.revisionism.
As of March 3rd, I have ceased active participation in this group's
discussions. However, *as was stated in my first post* (and second, to
give credit to Mr. Hoover), I would repost my good-bye article at a
future date (3/21), and that I might respond to undue criticism.
You may ridicule my repost (and this message) all you like, but I am aware
that none of you has had the courage to attempt (and fail) to refute the
facts appended to my good-bye post regarding the mythical "six million"
of the Hoaxocaust.
You may finger my account all you wish. I never said I was ceasing all
computer use; you will find that I am logged in nearly every day. In
response to your fingers, be assured that I return your finger with my
own -- though not an electronic one.
-- HERMANN
-- No Guilt -- No Remorse --
-- White Pride -- White Power! --
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