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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Reply from an African subscriber:
*****

The British should also remember that 1999 is also the 100th anniversary 
of
the Anglo/Boer war. During which time they, the British, threw tens of
thousands of innocent Boer women and children into dirty filthy and
hopelessly inadequate concentration tent camps, where they 
systematically
starved 27,000 of them to death!!!! A fact which they to this day still
deny!

The museum and monument here in Bloemfontein stands as a reminder to us 
of
that HOLOCAUST which we, the descendants of those brave Boers who took 
on
the might of the British, will never ever forget!!








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When Rudolf Hess, then a young man of 47 and one of the most popular,
respected comrades-in-arms of Adolf Hitler, took off on his flight of 
peace
to the British Isles, he still believed with all his heart in "honor and
fair play" about which there was, and still is, so much talk in England.

His son, Wolf-R=FCdiger, wrote later:

". . . My father thought it inconceivable that millions of lives would 
be
risked just to please Roosevelt and Churchill and those who stood behind
them .  .  . "

On May 10, Hess parachuted out of an Me 110 into Scotland in order to 
bring
about an armistice through German negotiations with the British 
government
and to prepare for the concluding of a peace treaty between Great 
Britain
and the German Reich.  His mission was a last-minute attempt to prevent 
the
escalation of the war between these two nations into another world war 
that
would bring with it 50 million casualties and the destruction of
irreplaceable cultural assets, along with the eclipsing of the British
empire by the Soviets and the USA.

As we all know today, this mission was defeated by the destructive drive
exhibited by Germany's opponents and by the long-term war aims of the
American President, F.D. Roosevelt and the British Prime Minister, 
Winston
Churchill.

Hess, an unarmed emissary of peace, was promptly arrested and later 
tried
and convicted at Nuremberg for "crimes against the peace"-the only man 
so
stigmatized in what can only be satanically symbolic.

On July 18, 1947, Hess and six others, who also had been given prison
sentences by the infamous Nuremberg Tribunal, were transferred from
Nuremberg into the former military prison, Berlin-Spandau.

He would spend 46 years in confinement-decades of it in solitary
confinement.  The mind refuses to accommodate what that must have meant 
for
a man of Rudolf Hess's insight, intellect and age.

Since Speer's and Von Schirach's release on October 1, 1966, Rudolf Hess
remained there as the only inmate of Spandau.  In 1982, for the first 
time,
the annual administrative costs exceeded 2 million Marks to look after 
one
lonely old man in this vast, dank, old dungeon.

"Since October 1966," wrote his son in 1989, "the German tax payer has
probably spent no less than 30 million Marks for the administration of
Spandau Prison."

Over the years, out of the Z=FCndel-Haus came many attempts to get 
Rudolf
Hess released - petitions, letter writing campaigns, bumper stickers,
T-shirts etc.- so he could spend his last years on earth surrounded by 
his
loved ones.

All were in vain.  For decades, the Russians were blamed.  Wolf-
R=FCdiger
Hess commented after his father's death on his

". . . long-held suspicions that the Soviets were by no means the most 
to
blame. let alone solely to blame, for my father's inhuman incarceration,
even though the Western Allies still try to make it seem that way, and 
are
supported by their endeavor by a compliant public opinion in West Germany.

 ."

In fact, as we now know, nefarious Western powers refused, sabotaged and
crossed all plans for his release.

Then word came that the 93-year-old had committed "suicide."  Various 
news
dispatches reported variations of the following:

"Investigations have confirmed that on 17 August (1987) Rudolf Hess 
hanged
himself from a window latch in a small summerhouse in the prison garden,
using an electrical extension cord which had for some time been kept in 
the
summer house for use in connection with a reading lamp."

Knowing that, by then, the ancient prisoner was physically incapable of
raising his arms beyond his waist because of atrophied muscles and, hence,

could not have hanged himself, the family ordered a second autopsy after 
the
release of the body by Germany's most famous pathologist.

This autopsy revealed that

". . . the alterations observed of the body of Mr. Rudolf Hess are
consistent with violence to the neck caused by a ligature.  The autopsy
yielded no indication of death by natural causes.  . . "

In other words, the ancient prisoner was strangled - and his "secret"
supposedly strangled with him.

What was it that the F=FChrer's former Deputy could have told us that had 
to
be guarded at the tune of millions of Deutschmarks and had to be 
strangled
to prevent it from reaching our hearts?  Why did he have to be 
imprisoned
and systematically subjected to what can only be described as 
unremitting
torture unparalleled in our age?

We get a glimpse.  In his closing words to the Military Tribunal of
Nuremberg, Hess ended his freedom on earth with these words:

"The statements in evidence placed before this court by my defending 
counsel
I will leave to the future judgment of my people and of history, for 
that
alone is essential to me.

I do not defend myself before prosecutors to whom I deny the right to 
make
accusations against me and my fellow countrymen.  I do not propose to 
argue
about charges that are concerned with the internal affairs of Germany, 
with
which foreigners have no right to interfere.  I make no complaints about
statements, the aim of which is to discredit and dishonor myself and the
entire German people.  I regard such statements coming from enemies as
confirmation of our honor.

It has been my privilege to serve for many years under the greatest son 
to
whom my people has given birth in its thousand years of history.  Even if 
it
were possible for me to do so, I would never wish to wipe this period of
service out of my life.  It fills me with happiness to know that I did 
my
duty towards my people:  my duty as a German, as a National Socialist, 
and
as a true follower of the F=FChrer.  I regret nothing.  If I stood at 
the
beginning of my career I would act again as I did act, even if I knew 
that
what awaited me was the stake at which I was to be burnt alive.

Whatever men may do to me, the day will come when I will stand before 
the
judgment seat of the Eternal:  to Him I will give an account of my 
actions,
and I know that He will pronounce me innocent."

Today is "Rudolf Hess Remembrance Day"  - a token "ritual" only because 
to
honor Rudolf Hess is now forbidden and ruthlessly suppressed in Germany. 
The
last official march to honor Rudolf Hess moved into Luxembourg and 
Belgium
in 1995 because it was impossible to have it taken place on Rudolf 
Hess's
native soil.  Even so, this march resulted in the arrest and brutal 
physical
abuse of hundreds of young nationalists.

Today, a much-beholden and enslaved Germany-a country in horrendous
spiritual and intellectual convulsions-could use a genuine role model of 
the
stature and distinction of this man.


Ingrid

_______________
________________  Dr. Ingrid Rimland is an internationally known keynote
speaker and award-winning author of several books and hundreds of 
columns
and articles.

Her best-known books are "The Furies and the Flame," an autobiography, 
and
"The Wanderers," the epic account of a pacifist group of Mennonites 
escaping
during WW II from Communist persecution.








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AMERICA'S FATE

By Milton John Kleim, Jr.


For over two weeks, Rick had felt a man without a soul.  His emotions  
had
roared, but now he knew his inner self was a burned-out shell.  Only  
his
intense will kept him alive, and coupled with his worsening finances,  
kept
him working.

Richard Thompson had presumed his 35th birthday would be a happy cele-
bration.  His life had fulfilled him; a beautiful, bright companion,  
loyal
friends of diverse backgrounds, and despite his low salary, he  couldn't
help but be proud of his seven-year old career with Babcock &  Wilcox.

But it all creeped up, as the iceberg deftly sailed in the path of the 
Titanic, akin to how the "calm before the storm" deadens the senses.

Grandma Thompson adored her only grandchild.  Her dying wish was that 
Rickie carry on her life-mate's family name through several grand- 
children.
 But Jen ended that on April 30th.

Beyond his wildest of nightmares, Jen's plan had been brewing for weeks.  

They _loved_ each other, they planned to build a future together.  They  
had
been lovers for over eleven months.  But then she sprung it on him,  
like
the assassin slides the knife into the unsuspecting victim.

Jen had a new lover.  And she was to marry him on Valentine Day's.

Why, why, why, Rick had cried -- literally -- for one of the few times in 

this masculine young man's life.  

"WHY?!" was she doing this.

It was beyond his understanding, beyond his great sympathy for her 
family's
misfortunes.  She "had to" leave him...for her grandfather's sake.  He 
was
chronically ill, and being without medical insurance of any kind, his 
slim
chance was her only, myopically-perceived, option. 

Ronnie White, the son of Detroit's state senator, an education major from 

Rick's alma mater, Michigan, offered Jen hope.

Jen's Hope was the sinister product of that ultra-liberal bastard from 
California, Congressman Lenny Feld's hideous scheme.  A scheme that both 

houses of Congress passed with overwhelming support -- the only opposi- 
tion
was on economic grounds.

Jen's Hope was $10,000 from Uncle Sap, the price of her body, her mind,  
her
soul, her genes.

The Feld Racism Abatement Act authorized one billion dollars to provide a 

grant to "any American, who, conscious of the fact that America is a more 

beautiful place without racism and prejudice, chooses a marriage partner  
of
another ethnic group, as defined by the 2002 Census Act.  House Bill  
666
will further in an affirmative way the diversity which strengthens  our
Nation."

You see, Jen's new lover was Black.  Nauseatingly shortsighted, she 
believed her racial heritage was the cost of her grandfather's salvation.


Left speechless, Rick just stared penetratingly at Jen, as a battle-wary 

soldier does after many intense engagements.  Some call it the "10,000  
yard
stare."  But his was slightly different.  Rick's was the 10,000  _year_
stare, looking senselessly at the daughter of 10,000 years of  blond 
Nordic
struggle and suffering.

Jen and Rick parted with few words.  Yet soon after, Rick's anger ex-
ploded.  But could he _hate_ his cherished part of his life, the person  
who
was one with him in all but genetic union -- or so he thought?  His  
rage
began to vent toward those monsters who had done this to her, him.

Rick was never a conscious racist.  He felt the "Call of the Blood," as  
he
once heard the Nazis describe it, but he struggled to suppress it.   
Pastor
Lind had often explained the tragedy of God's People in the ovens of 
Auschwitz.  Little Rickie never forgot.  He always knew what his racist 
feelings could become, what malignant weed they could sprout into.  He, 
Rick Thompson, could become the catalyst that murders another six million 

human beings.

Rick remembered his thankfulness for the Electronic Democracy Act of  
1997,
which prohibited hate speech on the Internet, and how he cheered  when a 
few
dozen racists were locked up for distributing white suprem- acist and
anti-Semitic propaganda.  He was unequivocally appalled by the  
brutality
and viciousness of the attacks on government installations by  
conspiracy
nuts and so-called "patriots" on July 4th, 2001, less than  five weeks 
after
the unanimous repeal of the Second Amendment.

But what had happened to _his_ life?  At this point, all was irrelevant, 

all was meaningless, excepting his shattered soul, his obliterated  
dreams,
even his once unshakable will seemed to falter.

All meaningless, all without relevance.

Were the haters right?  Was beloved Pastor Lind wrong?  Rick had never -- 

EVER -- thought of joining a hate crusade.

Rick recounted memories later, in an optimistic effort to recover.  He 
recalled his first encounter with Jen, his first kiss, his first....  He 

looked back to the past, in an attempt to find a future he thought 
unbuildable.

He pondered some of the terrible things out of his past, the terrible 
ideas.  Were his emotions getting the best of him?  Now, previously 
unconscionable, he had a peculiar fondness for those ideas.

It was his 21st birthday, May 1st, 1996, his classmates Bob and Kathy, 
outspoken on the matter of race, invited him to celebrate his rite of 
passage, to share with him his special day.  And they had mentioned an
important program they wanted to discuss with him.  Rick recalled they 
said
it was presented by some sort of physics professor with a keen sense of 
politics.  It had intrigued him, being a nuclear engineering student  
with a
similar interest in social issues, but he wasn't about to be bored  with
politics on his "Big Day," especially if it was racist.  He wanted  to 
go
down to the Wolverine's Den, maybe get laid, too.  He never spoke  to 
Bob
and Kathy again.

But after his escapade at the Wolverine's Den, during his 13 block 
journey 
home from the downtown of Ann Arbor, he noticed another message, a  
powerful
message which was etched deep in his mind even 14 years later.   Then, 
it
was just another bigoted leaflet plastered to a broken-down  facade, but 
now
it surged in his mind, and in his heart.  Emblazened in  red, the text 
spoke
of a "Third World America" and "race-mixing."  

The leaflet closed with a slogan.

"14 years...or 14 Words."
 "We must secure the existence of our People and a future for White
children."
--

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Subject: Benjamin H. Freedman Speaks part 2/3

  Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. They'd been so 
nice
to them: from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia 
failed,
and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia, they all went to Germany. 
And
Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And here 
they
had sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than the fact
that they wanted Palestine as a so-called "Jewish commonwealth."
   Now Nahum Sokolow, and all the great leaders and great names that you
read about in connection with Zionism today, in 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, 
and
1923 wrote in all their papers-and the press was filled with their
statements- that the feeling against the Jews in Ger- many is due to the
fact that they realized that this great defeat was brought about by 
Jewish
intercession in bringing the Untied  States  into the war.  The Jews
themselves admitted that. It wasn't that The Germans in 1919 discovered 
that
a glass of Jewish blood tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenschner Beer.
There was no religious feeling. There was no sentiment against those 
people
merely on account of their religious belief. It was all political. It 
was
economic. It was anything but religious. Nobody cared in Germany wheater 
a
Jew went home and pulled  down  the  shades  and  said "Shema' Yisroel" 
or
"Our Father." No- body cared in Germany any more than they do in the 
United
States. Now this feeling that developed later in Germany was due to one
thing: the Germans held the Jews responsible for their crushing defeat.
  And World War 1 had been started against Germany for no reason for 
which
Germany  was  responsible.  They  were guity of nothing. Only of being
success- ful. They built up a big navy. They built up world trade. You 
must
remember that Germany at the time of the French Revo- lution consisted 
of
300 small city-states, principalities, dukedoms, and so forth. Three 
hundred
separate little political entities. And between that time, between the 
times
of Napoleon and Bismarck, they were consolidated into one state. And 
within
50 years they became one of the world's great powers. Their navy was
rivalling Great Britain's, they were doing business all over the world, 
they
could undersell anybody, they could make bet- ter products. What happened 
as
a result of that?
  There was a conspiracy between Eng- land, France, and Russia to slap 
down
Germany. There isn't one historian in the world who can find a valid 
reason
why those three countries decided to wipe Germany off she map politically.

  When Germany realized  that the Jews were responsible for her defeat, 
they
naturally resented it. But not a hair on the head of any Jew was harmed. 
Not
a single hair. Professor Tansill, of George- town University, who had 
access
to all the secret  papers  of the State  Depart- ment, wrote in his book,

and quoted from a State Departament document writ- ten by Hugo Schoenfelt,
 a
Jew whom Cordell Hull sent to Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-
called
camps of politi- cal prisoners, who wrote back that he found them in 
very
fine condition. They were in excellent shape, with everybody treated well.
 
And they were filled with Communists. Well, a lot of them were Jews, 
because
the Jews happened to com- prise about 98 per cent of the Commu- nists in
Europe at that time. And there were some priests there and ministers and
labor leaders, and  Masons, and others  who had  international  affili-
ations.
   Some  background  is  in  order:  In 1918-1919 the Communists took 
over
Bavaria for a few days. Rosa Luxemburg and  Karl  Liebknecht  and  a  
group
 of other Jews took over the government for three days.  ln fact. when 
the
Kaiser ended the war he fled to Holland be- cause he thought the 
Communists
were going to take over Germany as they did Russia and that he was going 
to
meet the same fate as the Czar. So he fled to Holland for safety, for
security. After Communist threat  in  Germany was quashed, the Jews  
were
still  working, trying  to  get  back  into  their  former status, and 
the
Germans fought them in every way they could without hurting a single  
hair 
on  anyone's  head.  They fought them the same way that, in this country,

the Prohibitionists fought any- one who was interested in liquor. They
didn't fight one another with pistols. Well, that's the way they were
fighting the Jews in Germany. And at that time, mind you, there were 80 
to
90 million Germans, and them were only 460,000 Jews. About one half of 
one
per cent of the population of Germany were Jews. And yet they controlled 
all
the press, and they controlled most of the economy because they had come 
in
with cheap money when the mark was devalued and bought up practically
everything.
   The Jews tried to keep a lid on this fact. They didn't want the world 
to
really understand that they had sold out Ger- many, and that the Germans
resented that.
   The  Germans took  appropriate ac- tion against the Jews. They, shall 
I
say, discriminated  against them  wherever they could.  They shunned them.

The same way that we would shun the Chi- nese, or the Negroes, or the
Catholics, or anyone in this country who had sold us out to an enemy and
brought about our defeat.
  After a while, the Jews of the world called a meeting in Amsterdam. 
Jews
>from  every country in the world attended this meeting in July 1933. And 
they
said to Germany: "You fire Hitler, and you put every Jew back into his
former posi- tion, whether he was a Communist or no matter what he was. 
You
can't treat us that way. And we, the Jews of the world, are serving an
ultimatum upon you." You can imagine what the Ger- mans told them. So 
what
did the Jews do?
  In 1933, when Germany refused to surrender to the world conference of 
Jews
in Amsterdam, the conference broke up, and Mr. Samuel Untermeyer, who 
was
the head of the American dele- gation and the president of the whole
conference, came to the United States and ment from the steamer to the
studios of the Columbia Broadcasting System and made a radio broadcast
throughout the United States in which he in effect said, "The Jews of 
the
world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a 
sacred
conflict against the Germans. And we are going to starve them into
surrender. We are going to use a world-wide boycott against them. That 
will
destroy them because they are de- pendent  upon  their  export  business.
"
And it is a fact that two thirds of Ger- many's food supply had to be
imported, and if could only be imported with the proceeds of what they
exported. So if Germany could not export, two thirds of Germany's 
population
 would  have  to starve. There was just not enough food for more than 
one
third of the popula- tion. Now in this declaration, which I have here, 
and
which was printed in the New York Times on August 7, 1933, Mr. Samuel 
Untermeyer boldly stated that "this economic boycott is our means of
self-defense. President Roosevelt has ad- vocated its use in the 
National
Recovery Administration,"   which  some  of you may remember, where
everybody was to be boycotted unless he followed the rules laid down by 
the
New Deal, and which was declarced unconstitutional by the Su- preme Court 
of
that time. Nevertheless, the Jews of the world declared a boycott 
against
Germany, and it was so effective that you, couldn't find one thing in 
any
store anywhere in the world with the words "made in Germany" on it. In 
fact,
an executive of thc Woolworth, Company told me that they had to dump
millions of dollars worth of crockery and dishes into  the  river;  that 

their  stores  were boycotted if anyone come in and found a dish marked
"made in Germany," they were picketed with signs saying "Hitler,"
"murderer," and so forth, something like these sit-ins that are taking 
place
in the South. At a store belonging to the R. H. Macy chain, which was
controlled by a family called Strauss who also happened to be Jews, a 
woman
found stockings there which  came  from  Chemnitz,  marked "made  in 
Germany."   Well,  they were cotton stockings and they may have been 
there
20 years, since I've been observing women's legs for many years and it's
been  a  long time  since  I've  seen  any cotton stockings on them. I 
saw
Macy's boycotted, with hundreds of people walking- ing arouud with signs
saying "murder- ers," "Hitlerites," and so forth. Now up to that time, 
not
one hair on the head of any Jew had been hurt in Germany. There was  no
suffering, there was no starvation, there was no murder, there was 
nothing.
  Naturally, the Germans said, "Who are these  people to declare a 
boycott
against us and throw all our people out of work, and make our industries
come to a standstill? Who are they to do that to us?" they naturally
resented it. Cer- tainly they painted swastikas on stores owned by Jews. 
Why
should a German go in and give his money to a storekeeper who was part of 
a
boycott that was going to starve Germany into surrendering to the Jews 
of
the world, who were going to dictate who their premier or chancellor was 
to
be? Well, it was ridiculous.
  The boycott continued for some time, but it wasn't until 1938, when a
young Jew from Poland walked into the German embassy in Paris and shot a
German official, that the Germans really started to get rough with the 
Jews
in Germany. And you found them then breaking windows and having street 
fights and so forth.
   Now I don't like to use the word "anti-Semitism"    because  it's 
meaning- less, but it means something to you still, so I'll have to use 
it.
The only reason that there was any feeling in Germany against Jews was 
that
they were respon- sible tor World War 1 andd for this world- wide boycott.

Ultimately they were also responsible for world War II, because after 
this
thing got out of hand, it was absolutely necessary for the Jews and 
Germany
to lock horns in a war to see which one was going to survive.








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The British should also remember that 1999 is also the 100th anniversary 
of
the Anglo/Boer war. During which time they, the British, threw tens of
thousands of innocent Boer women and children into dirty filthy and
hopelessly inadequate concentration tent camps, where they 
systematically
starved 27,000 of them to death!!!! A fact which they to this day still
deny!

The museum and monument here in Bloemfontein stands as a reminder to us 
of
that HOLOCAUST which we, the descendants of those brave Boers who took 
on
the might of the British, will never ever forget!!








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Reply from an African subscriber:
*****

The British should also remember that 1999 is also the 100th anniversary 
of
the Anglo/Boer war. During which time they, the British, threw tens of
thousands of innocent Boer women and children into dirty filthy and
hopelessly inadequate concentration tent camps, where they 
systematically
starved 27,000 of them to death!!!! A fact which they to this day still
deny!

The museum and monument here in Bloemfontein stands as a reminder to us 
of
that HOLOCAUST which we, the descendants of those brave Boers who took 
on
the might of the British, will never ever forget!!








From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Fri May 10 07:27:14 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Rudy & the truth
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When Rudolf Hess, then a young man of 47 and one of the most popular,
respected comrades-in-arms of Adolf Hitler, took off on his flight of 
peace
to the British Isles, he still believed with all his heart in "honor and
fair play" about which there was, and still is, so much talk in England.

His son, Wolf-R=FCdiger, wrote later:

". . . My father thought it inconceivable that millions of lives would 
be
risked just to please Roosevelt and Churchill and those who stood behind
them .  .  . "

On May 10, Hess parachuted out of an Me 110 into Scotland in order to 
bring
about an armistice through German negotiations with the British 
government
and to prepare for the concluding of a peace treaty between Great 
Britain
and the German Reich.  His mission was a last-minute attempt to prevent 
the
escalation of the war between these two nations into another world war 
that
would bring with it 50 million casualties and the destruction of
irreplaceable cultural assets, along with the eclipsing of the British
empire by the Soviets and the USA.

As we all know today, this mission was defeated by the destructive drive
exhibited by Germany's opponents and by the long-term war aims of the
American President, F.D. Roosevelt and the British Prime Minister, 
Winston
Churchill.

Hess, an unarmed emissary of peace, was promptly arrested and later 
tried
and convicted at Nuremberg for "crimes against the peace"-the only man 
so
stigmatized in what can only be satanically symbolic.

On July 18, 1947, Hess and six others, who also had been given prison
sentences by the infamous Nuremberg Tribunal, were transferred from
Nuremberg into the former military prison, Berlin-Spandau.

He would spend 46 years in confinement-decades of it in solitary
confinement.  The mind refuses to accommodate what that must have meant 
for
a man of Rudolf Hess's insight, intellect and age.

Since Speer's and Von Schirach's release on October 1, 1966, Rudolf Hess
remained there as the only inmate of Spandau.  In 1982, for the first 
time,
the annual administrative costs exceeded 2 million Marks to look after 
one
lonely old man in this vast, dank, old dungeon.

"Since October 1966," wrote his son in 1989, "the German tax payer has
probably spent no less than 30 million Marks for the administration of
Spandau Prison."

Over the years, out of the Z=FCndel-Haus came many attempts to get 
Rudolf
Hess released - petitions, letter writing campaigns, bumper stickers,
T-shirts etc.- so he could spend his last years on earth surrounded by 
his
loved ones.

All were in vain.  For decades, the Russians were blamed.  Wolf-
R=FCdiger
Hess commented after his father's death on his

". . . long-held suspicions that the Soviets were by no means the most 
to
blame. let alone solely to blame, for my father's inhuman incarceration,
even though the Western Allies still try to make it seem that way, and 
are
supported by their endeavor by a compliant public opinion in West Germany.

 ."

In fact, as we now know, nefarious Western powers refused, sabotaged and
crossed all plans for his release.

Then word came that the 93-year-old had committed "suicide."  Various 
news
dispatches reported variations of the following:

"Investigations have confirmed that on 17 August (1987) Rudolf Hess 
hanged
himself from a window latch in a small summerhouse in the prison garden,
using an electrical extension cord which had for some time been kept in 
the
summer house for use in connection with a reading lamp."

Knowing that, by then, the ancient prisoner was physically incapable of
raising his arms beyond his waist because of atrophied muscles and, hence,

could not have hanged himself, the family ordered a second autopsy after 
the
release of the body by Germany's most famous pathologist.

This autopsy revealed that

". . . the alterations observed of the body of Mr. Rudolf Hess are
consistent with violence to the neck caused by a ligature.  The autopsy
yielded no indication of death by natural causes.  . . "

In other words, the ancient prisoner was strangled - and his "secret"
supposedly strangled with him.

What was it that the F=FChrer's former Deputy could have told us that had 
to
be guarded at the tune of millions of Deutschmarks and had to be 
strangled
to prevent it from reaching our hearts?  Why did he have to be 
imprisoned
and systematically subjected to what can only be described as 
unremitting
torture unparalleled in our age?

We get a glimpse.  In his closing words to the Military Tribunal of
Nuremberg, Hess ended his freedom on earth with these words:

"The statements in evidence placed before this court by my defending 
counsel
I will leave to the future judgment of my people and of history, for 
that
alone is essential to me.

I do not defend myself before prosecutors to whom I deny the right to 
make
accusations against me and my fellow countrymen.  I do not propose to 
argue
about charges that are concerned with the internal affairs of Germany, 
with
which foreigners have no right to interfere.  I make no complaints about
statements, the aim of which is to discredit and dishonor myself and the
entire German people.  I regard such statements coming from enemies as
confirmation of our honor.

It has been my privilege to serve for many years under the greatest son 
to
whom my people has given birth in its thousand years of history.  Even if 
it
were possible for me to do so, I would never wish to wipe this period of
service out of my life.  It fills me with happiness to know that I did 
my
duty towards my people:  my duty as a German, as a National Socialist, 
and
as a true follower of the F=FChrer.  I regret nothing.  If I stood at 
the
beginning of my career I would act again as I did act, even if I knew 
that
what awaited me was the stake at which I was to be burnt alive.

Whatever men may do to me, the day will come when I will stand before 
the
judgment seat of the Eternal:  to Him I will give an account of my 
actions,
and I know that He will pronounce me innocent."

Today is "Rudolf Hess Remembrance Day"  - a token "ritual" only because 
to
honor Rudolf Hess is now forbidden and ruthlessly suppressed in Germany. 
The
last official march to honor Rudolf Hess moved into Luxembourg and 
Belgium
in 1995 because it was impossible to have it taken place on Rudolf 
Hess's
native soil.  Even so, this march resulted in the arrest and brutal 
physical
abuse of hundreds of young nationalists.

Today, a much-beholden and enslaved Germany-a country in horrendous
spiritual and intellectual convulsions-could use a genuine role model of 
the
stature and distinction of this man.


Ingrid

_______________
________________  Dr. Ingrid Rimland is an internationally known keynote
speaker and award-winning author of several books and hundreds of 
columns
and articles.

Her best-known books are "The Furies and the Flame," an autobiography, 
and
"The Wanderers," the epic account of a pacifist group of Mennonites 
escaping
during WW II from Communist persecution.








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Subject: Benjamin H. Freedman Speaks part 2/3

  Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. They'd been so 
nice
to them: from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia 
failed,
and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia, they all went to Germany. 
And
Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And here 
they
had sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than the fact
that they wanted Palestine as a so-called "Jewish commonwealth."
   Now Nahum Sokolow, and all the great leaders and great names that you
read about in connection with Zionism today, in 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, 
and
1923 wrote in all their papers-and the press was filled with their
statements- that the feeling against the Jews in Ger- many is due to the
fact that they realized that this great defeat was brought about by 
Jewish
intercession in bringing the Untied  States  into the war.  The Jews
themselves admitted that. It wasn't that The Germans in 1919 discovered 
that
a glass of Jewish blood tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenschner Beer.
There was no religious feeling. There was no sentiment against those 
people
merely on account of their religious belief. It was all political. It 
was
economic. It was anything but religious. Nobody cared in Germany wheater 
a
Jew went home and pulled  down  the  shades  and  said "Shema' Yisroel" 
or
"Our Father." No- body cared in Germany any more than they do in the 
United
States. Now this feeling that developed later in Germany was due to one
thing: the Germans held the Jews responsible for their crushing defeat.
  And World War 1 had been started against Germany for no reason for 
which
Germany  was  responsible.  They  were guity of nothing. Only of being
success- ful. They built up a big navy. They built up world trade. You 
must
remember that Germany at the time of the French Revo- lution consisted 
of
300 small city-states, principalities, dukedoms, and so forth. Three 
hundred
separate little political entities. And between that time, between the 
times
of Napoleon and Bismarck, they were consolidated into one state. And 
within
50 years they became one of the world's great powers. Their navy was
rivalling Great Britain's, they were doing business all over the world, 
they
could undersell anybody, they could make bet- ter products. What happened 
as
a result of that?
  There was a conspiracy between Eng- land, France, and Russia to slap 
down
Germany. There isn't one historian in the world who can find a valid 
reason
why those three countries decided to wipe Germany off she map politically.

  When Germany realized  that the Jews were responsible for her defeat, 
they
naturally resented it. But not a hair on the head of any Jew was harmed. 
Not
a single hair. Professor Tansill, of George- town University, who had 
access
to all the secret  papers  of the State  Depart- ment, wrote in his book,

and quoted from a State Departament document writ- ten by Hugo Schoenfelt,
 a
Jew whom Cordell Hull sent to Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-
called
camps of politi- cal prisoners, who wrote back that he found them in 
very
fine condition. They were in excellent shape, with everybody treated well.
 
And they were filled with Communists. Well, a lot of them were Jews, 
because
the Jews happened to com- prise about 98 per cent of the Commu- nists in
Europe at that time. And there were some priests there and ministers and
labor leaders, and  Masons, and others  who had  international  affili-
ations.
   Some  background  is  in  order:  In 1918-1919 the Communists took 
over
Bavaria for a few days. Rosa Luxemburg and  Karl  Liebknecht  and  a  
group
 of other Jews took over the government for three days.  ln fact. when 
the
Kaiser ended the war he fled to Holland be- cause he thought the 
Communists
were going to take over Germany as they did Russia and that he was going 
to
meet the same fate as the Czar. So he fled to Holland for safety, for
security. After Communist threat  in  Germany was quashed, the Jews  
were
still  working, trying  to  get  back  into  their  former status, and 
the
Germans fought them in every way they could without hurting a single  
hair 
on  anyone's  head.  They fought them the same way that, in this country,

the Prohibitionists fought any- one who was interested in liquor. They
didn't fight one another with pistols. Well, that's the way they were
fighting the Jews in Germany. And at that time, mind you, there were 80 
to
90 million Germans, and them were only 460,000 Jews. About one half of 
one
per cent of the population of Germany were Jews. And yet they controlled 
all
the press, and they controlled most of the economy because they had come 
in
with cheap money when the mark was devalued and bought up practically
everything.
   The Jews tried to keep a lid on this fact. They didn't want the world 
to
really understand that they had sold out Ger- many, and that the Germans
resented that.
   The  Germans took  appropriate ac- tion against the Jews. They, shall 
I
say, discriminated  against them  wherever they could.  They shunned them.

The same way that we would shun the Chi- nese, or the Negroes, or the
Catholics, or anyone in this country who had sold us out to an enemy and
brought about our defeat.
  After a while, the Jews of the world called a meeting in Amsterdam. 
Jews
>from  every country in the world attended this meeting in July 1933. And 
they
said to Germany: "You fire Hitler, and you put every Jew back into his
former posi- tion, whether he was a Communist or no matter what he was. 
You
can't treat us that way. And we, the Jews of the world, are serving an
ultimatum upon you." You can imagine what the Ger- mans told them. So 
what
did the Jews do?
  In 1933, when Germany refused to surrender to the world conference of 
Jews
in Amsterdam, the conference broke up, and Mr. Samuel Untermeyer, who 
was
the head of the American dele- gation and the president of the whole
conference, came to the United States and ment from the steamer to the
studios of the Columbia Broadcasting System and made a radio broadcast
throughout the United States in which he in effect said, "The Jews of 
the
world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a 
sacred
conflict against the Germans. And we are going to starve them into
surrender. We are going to use a world-wide boycott against them. That 
will
destroy them because they are de- pendent  upon  their  export  business.
"
And it is a fact that two thirds of Ger- many's food supply had to be
imported, and if could only be imported with the proceeds of what they
exported. So if Germany could not export, two thirds of Germany's 
population
 would  have  to starve. There was just not enough food for more than 
one
third of the popula- tion. Now in this declaration, which I have here, 
and
which was printed in the New York Times on August 7, 1933, Mr. Samuel 
Untermeyer boldly stated that "this economic boycott is our means of
self-defense. President Roosevelt has ad- vocated its use in the 
National
Recovery Administration,"   which  some  of you may remember, where
everybody was to be boycotted unless he followed the rules laid down by 
the
New Deal, and which was declarced unconstitutional by the Su- preme Court 
of
that time. Nevertheless, the Jews of the world declared a boycott 
against
Germany, and it was so effective that you, couldn't find one thing in 
any
store anywhere in the world with the words "made in Germany" on it. In 
fact,
an executive of thc Woolworth, Company told me that they had to dump
millions of dollars worth of crockery and dishes into  the  river;  that 

their  stores  were boycotted if anyone come in and found a dish marked
"made in Germany," they were picketed with signs saying "Hitler,"
"murderer," and so forth, something like these sit-ins that are taking 
place
in the South. At a store belonging to the R. H. Macy chain, which was
controlled by a family called Strauss who also happened to be Jews, a 
woman
found stockings there which  came  from  Chemnitz,  marked "made  in 
Germany."   Well,  they were cotton stockings and they may have been 
there
20 years, since I've been observing women's legs for many years and it's
been  a  long time  since  I've  seen  any cotton stockings on them. I 
saw
Macy's boycotted, with hundreds of people walking- ing arouud with signs
saying "murder- ers," "Hitlerites," and so forth. Now up to that time, 
not
one hair on the head of any Jew had been hurt in Germany. There was  no
suffering, there was no starvation, there was no murder, there was 
nothing.
  Naturally, the Germans said, "Who are these  people to declare a 
boycott
against us and throw all our people out of work, and make our industries
come to a standstill? Who are they to do that to us?" they naturally
resented it. Cer- tainly they painted swastikas on stores owned by Jews. 
Why
should a German go in and give his money to a storekeeper who was part of 
a
boycott that was going to starve Germany into surrendering to the Jews 
of
the world, who were going to dictate who their premier or chancellor was 
to
be? Well, it was ridiculous.
  The boycott continued for some time, but it wasn't until 1938, when a
young Jew from Poland walked into the German embassy in Paris and shot a
German official, that the Germans really started to get rough with the 
Jews
in Germany. And you found them then breaking windows and having street 
fights and so forth.
   Now I don't like to use the word "anti-Semitism"    because  it's 
meaning- less, but it means something to you still, so I'll have to use 
it.
The only reason that there was any feeling in Germany against Jews was 
that
they were respon- sible tor World War 1 andd for this world- wide boycott.

Ultimately they were also responsible for world War II, because after 
this
thing got out of hand, it was absolutely necessary for the Jews and 
Germany
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Date: Sunday, 21-Apr-96 11:11 AM

AMERICA'S FATE

By Milton John Kleim, Jr.


For over two weeks, Rick had felt a man without a soul.  His emotions  
had
roared, but now he knew his inner self was a burned-out shell.  Only  
his
intense will kept him alive, and coupled with his worsening finances,  
kept
him working.

Richard Thompson had presumed his 35th birthday would be a happy cele-
bration.  His life had fulfilled him; a beautiful, bright companion,  
loyal
friends of diverse backgrounds, and despite his low salary, he  couldn't
help but be proud of his seven-year old career with Babcock &  Wilcox.

But it all creeped up, as the iceberg deftly sailed in the path of the 
Titanic, akin to how the "calm before the storm" deadens the senses.

Grandma Thompson adored her only grandchild.  Her dying wish was that 
Rickie carry on her life-mate's family name through several grand- 
children.
 But Jen ended that on April 30th.

Beyond his wildest of nightmares, Jen's plan had been brewing for weeks.  

They _loved_ each other, they planned to build a future together.  They  
had
been lovers for over eleven months.  But then she sprung it on him,  
like
the assassin slides the knife into the unsuspecting victim.

Jen had a new lover.  And she was to marry him on Valentine Day's.

Why, why, why, Rick had cried -- literally -- for one of the few times in 

this masculine young man's life.  

"WHY?!" was she doing this.

It was beyond his understanding, beyond his great sympathy for her 
family's
misfortunes.  She "had to" leave him...for her grandfather's sake.  He 
was
chronically ill, and being without medical insurance of any kind, his 
slim
chance was her only, myopically-perceived, option. 

Ronnie White, the son of Detroit's state senator, an education major from 

Rick's alma mater, Michigan, offered Jen hope.

Jen's Hope was the sinister product of that ultra-liberal bastard from 
California, Congressman Lenny Feld's hideous scheme.  A scheme that both 

houses of Congress passed with overwhelming support -- the only opposi- 
tion
was on economic grounds.

Jen's Hope was $10,000 from Uncle Sap, the price of her body, her mind,  
her
soul, her genes.

The Feld Racism Abatement Act authorized one billion dollars to provide a 

grant to "any American, who, conscious of the fact that America is a more 

beautiful place without racism and prejudice, chooses a marriage partner  
of
another ethnic group, as defined by the 2002 Census Act.  House Bill  
666
will further in an affirmative way the diversity which strengthens  our
Nation."

You see, Jen's new lover was Black.  Nauseatingly shortsighted, she 
believed her racial heritage was the cost of her grandfather's salvation.


Left speechless, Rick just stared penetratingly at Jen, as a battle-wary 

soldier does after many intense engagements.  Some call it the "10,000  
yard
stare."  But his was slightly different.  Rick's was the 10,000  _year_
stare, looking senselessly at the daughter of 10,000 years of  blond 
Nordic
struggle and suffering.

Jen and Rick parted with few words.  Yet soon after, Rick's anger ex-
ploded.  But could he _hate_ his cherished part of his life, the person  
who
was one with him in all but genetic union -- or so he thought?  His  
rage
began to vent toward those monsters who had done this to her, him.

Rick was never a conscious racist.  He felt the "Call of the Blood," as  
he
once heard the Nazis describe it, but he struggled to suppress it.   
Pastor
Lind had often explained the tragedy of God's People in the ovens of 
Auschwitz.  Little Rickie never forgot.  He always knew what his racist 
feelings could become, what malignant weed they could sprout into.  He, 
Rick Thompson, could become the catalyst that murders another six million 

human beings.

Rick remembered his thankfulness for the Electronic Democracy Act of  
1997,
which prohibited hate speech on the Internet, and how he cheered  when a 
few
dozen racists were locked up for distributing white suprem- acist and
anti-Semitic propaganda.  He was unequivocally appalled by the  
brutality
and viciousness of the attacks on government installations by  
conspiracy
nuts and so-called "patriots" on July 4th, 2001, less than  five weeks 
after
the unanimous repeal of the Second Amendment.

But what had happened to _his_ life?  At this point, all was irrelevant, 

all was meaningless, excepting his shattered soul, his obliterated  
dreams,
even his once unshakable will seemed to falter.

All meaningless, all without relevance.

Were the haters right?  Was beloved Pastor Lind wrong?  Rick had never -- 

EVER -- thought of joining a hate crusade.

Rick recounted memories later, in an optimistic effort to recover.  He 
recalled his first encounter with Jen, his first kiss, his first....  He 

looked back to the past, in an attempt to find a future he thought 
unbuildable.

He pondered some of the terrible things out of his past, the terrible 
ideas.  Were his emotions getting the best of him?  Now, previously 
unconscionable, he had a peculiar fondness for those ideas.

It was his 21st birthday, May 1st, 1996, his classmates Bob and Kathy, 
outspoken on the matter of race, invited him to celebrate his rite of 
passage, to share with him his special day.  And they had mentioned an
important program they wanted to discuss with him.  Rick recalled they 
said
it was presented by some sort of physics professor with a keen sense of 
politics.  It had intrigued him, being a nuclear engineering student  
with a
similar interest in social issues, but he wasn't about to be bored  with
politics on his "Big Day," especially if it was racist.  He wanted  to 
go
down to the Wolverine's Den, maybe get laid, too.  He never spoke  to 
Bob
and Kathy again.

But after his escapade at the Wolverine's Den, during his 13 block 
journey 
home from the downtown of Ann Arbor, he noticed another message, a  
powerful
message which was etched deep in his mind even 14 years later.   Then, 
it
was just another bigoted leaflet plastered to a broken-down  facade, but 
now
it surged in his mind, and in his heart.  Emblazened in  red, the text 
spoke
of a "Third World America" and "race-mixing."  

The leaflet closed with a slogan.

"14 years...or 14 Words."
 "We must secure the existence of our People and a future for White
children."
--

http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/
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Subject: Eyewitness account: REALITY
Date: 3 May 1996 06:17:47 GMT
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Date:   Thu, Apr 25, 1996 1:13 PM EDT
Two articles by Robert Fisk published in THE INDEPENDENT in London:
 
  MASSACRE IN SANCTUARY; EYEWITNESS
 
   By Robert Fisk
   The Independent 4/19/96, page 1
 
Qana, southern Lebanon - It was a massacre. Not since Sabra and
Chatila had I seen the innocent slaughtered like this. The Lebanese
refugee women and children and men lay in heaps, their hands or arms
or legs missing, beheaded or disembowelled. There were well over a
hundred of them. A baby lay without a head. The Israeli shells had
scythed through them as they lay in the United Nations shelter,
believing that they were safe under the world's protection. Like the
Muslims of Srebrenica, the Muslims of Qana were wrong.
 
    In front of a burning building of the UN's Fijian battalion
headquarters, a girl held a corpse in her arms, the body of a grey-
haired man whose eyes were staring at her, and she rocked the corpse
back and forth in her arms, keening and weeping and crying the same
words over and over: "My father, my father." A Fijian UN soldier
stood amid a sea of bodies and, without saying a word, held aloft
the body of a headless child.
 
    "The Israelis have just told us they'll stop shelling the area,"
a UN soldier said, shaking with anger. "Are we supposed to thank
them?" In the remains of a burning building - the conference room of
the Fijian UN headquarters - a pile of corpses was burning. The roof
had crashed in flames onto their bodies, cremating them in front of
my eyes. When I walked towards them, I slipped on a human hand...
 
    Israel's slaughter of civilians in this terrible 10-day
offensive - 206 by last night - has been so cavalier, so ferocious,
that not a Lebanese will forgive this massacre. There had been the
ambulance attacked on Saturday, the sisters killed in Yohmor the day
before, the 2-year-old girl decapitated by an Israeli missile four
days ago. And earlier yesterday, the Israelis had slaughtered a
family of 12 - the youngest was a four- day-old baby - when Israeli
helicopter pilots fired missiles into their home.
 
    Shortly afterwards, three Israeli jets dropped bombs only 250
metres from a UN convoy on which I was travelling, blasting a house
30 feet into the air in front of my eyes. Travelling back to Beirut
to file my report on the Qana massacre to the Independent last
night, I found two Israeli gunboats firing at the civilian cars on
the river bridge north of Sidon.
 
    Every foreign army comes to grief in Lebanon. The Sabra and
Chatila massacre of Palestinians by Israel's militia allies in 1982
doomed Israel's 1982 invasion. Now the Israelis are stained again by
the bloodbath at Qana, the scruffy little Lebanese hill town where
the Lebanese believe Jesus turned water into wine.
 
    The Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres may now wish to end this
war.  But the Hizbollah are not likely to let him. Israel is back in
the Lebanese quagmire.  Nor will the Arab world forget yesterday'a
terrible scenes.
 
    The blood of all the refugees ran quite literally in streams
>from  the shell-smashed UN compound restaurant in which the Shiite
Muslims from the hill villages of southern Lebanon - who had heeded
Israel's order to leave their homes - had pathetically sought
shelter. Fijian and French soldiers heaved another group of dead -
they lay with their arms tightly wrapped around each other - into
blankets.
 
    A French UN trooper muttered oaths to himself as he opened a bag
in which he was dropping feet, fingers, pieces of people's arms.
 
    And as we walked through this obscenity, a swarm of people burst
into the compound. They had driven in wild convoys down from Tyre
and began to pull the blankets off the mutilated corpses of their
mothers and sons and daughters and to shriek "Allahu Akbar" (God is
Great") and to threaten the UN troops.
 
    We had suddenly become not UN troops and journalists but
Westerners, Israel's allies, an object of hatred and venom. One
bearded man with fierce eyes stared at us, his face dark with fury.
"You are Americans," he screamed at us. "Americans are dogs. You did
this. Americans are dogs."
 
    President Bill Clinton has allied himself with Israel in its war
against "terrorism" and the Lebanese, in their grief, had not
forgotten this.  Israel's official expression of sorrow was rubbing
salt in their wounds.  "I would like to be made into a bomb and blow
myself up amid the Israelis," one old man said.
 
    As for the Hizbollah, which has repeatedly promised that
Israelis will pay for their killing of Lebanese civilians, its
revenge cannot be long in coming. Operation Grapes of Wrath may then
turn out then to be all too aptly named.
 




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Fri May 10 07:27:17 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: j*wsbriefs # 793
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04/29/96
New York

Sen. Alfonse D'Amato today called for the federal govt' to extradite the 
mastermind of the Achille Lauro hifacking to face trial in the U.S.

He called Abul Abbas's recent apology for the accidental death of the 
cruise ship passenger leon KLINGHOFFER an "outrage", and said the Justice 
Department should seek  to punish Abbas.

KLINGHOFFER rolled overboard when the brake on his wheelchair failed.
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Date: Friday, 26-Apr-96 03:10 PM

JAMES FLOYD on 'true believers'

Last week our noble House of Representatives did a very ignoble thing.  
They
 voted 240 to zero to condemn what they termed "Holocaust denial."  This 

writer and his friend have made a game of attempting to find another 
dogma 
which could have brought about this same unanimous meeting of the minds.  

Could Congress have marched in joint step to any other drumbeat?  Have 
they
 ever expressed unanimity regarding any other "true fact" of history, 
religion, political affairs, permissible foreplay, or even accord in 
financing life-altering projects such as the Lawrence Welk Museum?   The
answer is simply, no.

One can only imagine the donnybrook if a chitling-sucking preacher 
demanded
 that this august body sanction a tenent of the majority religion.  What 
a 
headline:  "Reverent Billy Joe goes to Washington and forces Congress to 

condemn anti-feetwashers."

                         Simon says, "Stand on one leg and repeat after
me...."

We are not allowed to deny - "Every J-w must reserve in his inner-being a 

zone of hate, healthy, virile hate, for the German and for what the 
German 
personifies."  Elie Weasel, pg. 142, "Legends of Our Times"

We are not allowed to deny - Mr. Arnold  Friendman's testimony that the 
crematoria chimneys shot "fourteen foot flames" into the air over 
Auschwitz,
 and that one could tell from the yellow smoke that they (the Germans) 
were
 gassing/burning skinny Polish J-ws. When the smoke changed to blue, they 

knew that these were fat Hungarian J-ws.

We are not allowed to deny - At Babi Yar, near Kiev in the Ukraine, the  

Germans gunned-down an unspecified number of J-ws.  "Eyewitnesses say 
that 
for months after the killings, the ground continued to spurt geysers of 
blood into the air."  Elie Weasel, pg. 48, "The J-ws of Silence."

And again - "For month after month, the ground never stopped trembling; 
and,
 from time to time, geysers of blood spurted from it."  Weasel, "Paroles 

d'etranger", pg. 86.

"THE PURE AND SIMPLE TRUTH IS RARELY PURE AND NEVER SIMPLE."
                                                                          
-
OSCAR WILDE -

                                                                          
 
 
        James Floyd
**********************






From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Fri May 10 07:27:18 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: HOLOCAUST
Date: 3 May 1996 06:18:51 GMT
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Date: Thursday, 25-Apr-96 11:38 AM

Reply from an African subscriber:
*****

The British should also remember that 1999 is also the 100th anniversary 
of
the Anglo/Boer war. During which time they, the British, threw tens of
thousands of innocent Boer women and children into dirty filthy and
hopelessly inadequate concentration tent camps, where they 
systematically
starved 27,000 of them to death!!!! A fact which they to this day still
deny!

The museum and monument here in Bloemfontein stands as a reminder to us 
of
that HOLOCAUST which we, the descendants of those brave Boers who took 
on
the might of the British, will never ever forget!!








From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Fri May 10 07:52:21 PDT 1996
Article: 48044 of alt.conspiracy
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Oops!
Date: 3 May 1996 06:33:11 GMT
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04/29/96
New York

Sen. Alfonse D'Amato today called for the federal govt' to extradite the 
mastermind of the Achille Lauro hifacking to face trial in the U.S.

He called Abul Abbas's recent apology for the accidental death of the 
cruise ship passenger leon KLINGHOFFER an "outrage", and said the Justice 
Department should seek  to punish Abbas.

KLINGHOFFER rolled overboard when the brake on his wheelchair failed.
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From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Fri May 10 07:52:22 PDT 1996
Article: 48049 of alt.conspiracy
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Congress violates USA citizens with lies
Date: 3 May 1996 06:30:34 GMT
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Date: Friday, 26-Apr-96 03:10 PM

JAMES FLOYD on 'true believers'

Last week our noble House of Representatives did a very ignoble thing.  
They
 voted 240 to zero to condemn what they termed "Holocaust denial."  This 

writer and his friend have made a game of attempting to find another 
dogma 
which could have brought about this same unanimous meeting of the minds.  

Could Congress have marched in joint step to any other drumbeat?  Have 
they
 ever expressed unanimity regarding any other "true fact" of history, 
religion, political affairs, permissible foreplay, or even accord in 
financing life-altering projects such as the Lawrence Welk Museum?   The
answer is simply, no.

One can only imagine the donnybrook if a chitling-sucking preacher 
demanded
 that this august body sanction a tenent of the majority religion.  What 
a 
headline:  "Reverent Billy Joe goes to Washington and forces Congress to 

condemn anti-feetwashers."

                         Simon says, "Stand on one leg and repeat after
me...."

We are not allowed to deny - "Every J-w must reserve in his inner-being a 

zone of hate, healthy, virile hate, for the German and for what the 
German 
personifies."  Elie Weasel, pg. 142, "Legends of Our Times"

We are not allowed to deny - Mr. Arnold  Friendman's testimony that the 
crematoria chimneys shot "fourteen foot flames" into the air over 
Auschwitz,
 and that one could tell from the yellow smoke that they (the Germans) 
were
 gassing/burning skinny Polish J-ws. When the smoke changed to blue, they 

knew that these were fat Hungarian J-ws.

We are not allowed to deny - At Babi Yar, near Kiev in the Ukraine, the  

Germans gunned-down an unspecified number of J-ws.  "Eyewitnesses say 
that 
for months after the killings, the ground continued to spurt geysers of 
blood into the air."  Elie Weasel, pg. 48, "The J-ws of Silence."

And again - "For month after month, the ground never stopped trembling; 
and,
 from time to time, geysers of blood spurted from it."  Weasel, "Paroles 

d'etranger", pg. 86.

"THE PURE AND SIMPLE TRUTH IS RARELY PURE AND NEVER SIMPLE."
                                                                          
-
OSCAR WILDE -

                                                                          
 
 
        James Floyd
**********************





From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat May 11 09:49:37 PDT 1996
Article: 19596 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Jews killed civilians on purpose says UN
Date: 11 May 1996 11:36:30 GMT
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Jerusalem, May 8, 1996
>From  the Associated Press

A stinging U.N. report released Tuesday accuses Israel of atrocities by 
saying Israel deliberately shelled a refugee camp in south Lebanon. The 
shelling massacred 91 women and children on April 18th. Israel had said 
they had no way to locate the camp and the shelling was therefore an 
'accident'. However, the U.N. released an amateur video broadcast Monday 
showing an Israeli drone flying over the area during the shelling. Drones,
 pilotless reconnaissance planes, are used to pinpoint targets without 
risking loss of a pilot.

Caught in a lie, Israel then changed her story, saying the drone had been 
on a mission to locate Hezbollah guerilla positioins when it was diverted 
to Qana to investigate reports of the U.N. camp being shelled. Israel's 
contention is that the drone showed up after the shelling had begun and 
released 4 minutes of the drone's own 50 minute camera video taken from a 
height of 4,000 feet showing smoke rising from the buildings in the camp.


"We didn't know civilians were there", said Lt. Col. Moshe Fogel, adding 
Israeli gunners aiming at Hezbollah sites had miscalculated by some 150 
yards. The U.N. report questioned that explanation, with Maj. Gen. Frank 
van Kappen, a Dutch officer, daying the pattern of artillery shell 
impacts is "inconsistent with a normal overshooting."

The army's own logs show the shelling lasted 11 minutes, with 15 whells 
hitting the civilians. This contradicts Israel's original version that 
the base was hit by one or two stray shells.




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat May 11 09:49:38 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Jews killed civilians on purpose says UN
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Jerusalem, May 8, 1996
>From  the Associated Press

A stinging U.N. report released Tuesday accuses Israel of atrocities by 
saying Israel deliberately shelled a refugee camp in south Lebanon. The 
shelling massacred 91 women and children on April 18th. Israel had said 
they had no way to locate the camp and the shelling was therefore an 
'accident'. However, the U.N. released an amateur video broadcast Monday 
showing an Israeli drone flying over the area during the shelling. Drones,
 pilotless reconnaissance planes, are used to pinpoint targets without 
risking loss of a pilot.

Caught in a lie, Israel then changed her story, saying the drone had been 
on a mission to locate Hezbollah guerilla positioins when it was diverted 
to Qana to investigate reports of the U.N. camp being shelled. Israel's 
contention is that the drone showed up after the shelling had begun and 
released 4 minutes of the drone's own 50 minute camera video taken from a 
height of 4,000 feet showing smoke rising from the buildings in the camp.


"We didn't know civilians were there", said Lt. Col. Moshe Fogel, adding 
Israeli gunners aiming at Hezbollah sites had miscalculated by some 150 
yards. The U.N. report questioned that explanation, with Maj. Gen. Frank 
van Kappen, a Dutch officer, daying the pattern of artillery shell 
impacts is "inconsistent with a normal overshooting."

The army's own logs show the shelling lasted 11 minutes, with 15 whells 
hitting the civilians. This contradicts Israel's original version that 
the base was hit by one or two stray shells.




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat May 11 09:49:39 PDT 1996
Article: 19598 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: j*ws riot in Crown Heights
Date: 11 May 1996 11:44:26 GMT
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5/10/96
Crown Heights NY

Hassidic vigilantes brutally beat an African American man tonight instead 
of calling the police. The violence arose after a dispute over a bicycle.


When police finally were called by other members of the community to 
quell the disturbance, they attempted to arrest the Hassidics, which 
triggered a riot lasting into the wee hours of the morning.

Vigilante groups are common in the neighborhood since the stabbing-murder 
of Yankel Rosenbaum several years ago. The alleged perpetrator in that 
case was acquitted.




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat May 11 09:49:40 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Israel killed deliberately says UN
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Jerusalem, May 8, 1996
>From  the Associated Press

A stinging U.N. report released Tuesday accuses Israel of atrocities by 
saying Israel deliberately shelled a refugee camp in south Lebanon. The 
shelling massacred 91 women and children on April 18th. Israel had said 
they had no way to locate the camp and the shelling was therefore an 
'accident'. However, the U.N. released an amateur video broadcast Monday 
showing an Israeli drone flying over the area during the shelling. Drones,
 pilotless reconnaissance planes, are used to pinpoint targets without 
risking loss of a pilot.

Caught in a lie, Israel then changed her story, saying the drone had been 
on a mission to locate Hezbollah guerilla positioins when it was diverted 
to Qana to investigate reports of the U.N. camp being shelled. Israel's 
contention is that the drone showed up after the shelling had begun and 
released 4 minutes of the drone's own 50 minute camera video taken from a 
height of 4,000 feet showing smoke rising from the buildings in the camp.


"We didn't know civilians were there", said Lt. Col. Moshe Fogel, adding 
Israeli gunners aiming at Hezbollah sites had miscalculated by some 150 
yards. The U.N. report questioned that explanation, with Maj. Gen. Frank 
van Kappen, a Dutch officer, daying the pattern of artillery shell 
impacts is "inconsistent with a normal overshooting."

The army's own logs show the shelling lasted 11 minutes, with 15 whells 
hitting the civilians. This contradicts Israel's original version that 
the base was hit by one or two stray shells.




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat May 11 09:49:41 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Widow says SHINDLER's list a lie
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Date: Thursday, 09-May-96 02:30 PM

From: E. Zundel                \ Internet:    (ezundel@cts.com)
Subject: Shindler's wife asserts film is a lie.

The widow of Oscar Shindler, about whom Steven spielberg mad a movie, 
decries the film as a hoax and a lie.

"Emilie Pelzl Schindler, the ex-wife of Oscar Schindler, whose story is 
told in the movie _Shindler's List_, asserts that the events told about 
in the film were deformed and that her husband never wrote the famous 
list of Jews to be saved from Auschwitz.

In a book of recollections, _Memoirs_, introduced to the press in Buenos 
Aires, Emilie Pelzl Schindler, a Czech citizen and now 89 years old, 
indicates that her ex-husband never went to Auschwitz and that he could 
never have saved the 1,300 Jews whose salvation is attributed to him.

The famous list would not have been written by her husband, but by a 
certain "Goldfman" (sic). Factually, nobody even knows what became of the 
Jews inscribed on that list.








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Subject: UN chastises Israel
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Jerusalem, May 8, 1996
>From  the Associated Press

A stinging U.N. report released Tuesday accuses Israel of atrocities by 
saying Israel deliberately shelled a refugee camp in south Lebanon. The 
shelling massacred 91 women and children on April 18th. Israel had said 
they had no way to locate the camp and the shelling was therefore an 
'accident'. However, the U.N. released an amateur video broadcast Monday 
showing an Israeli drone flying over the area during the shelling. Drones,
 pilotless reconnaissance planes, are used to pinpoint targets without 
risking loss of a pilot.

Caught in a lie, Israel then changed her story, saying the drone had been 
on a mission to locate Hezbollah guerilla positioins when it was diverted 
to Qana to investigate reports of the U.N. camp being shelled. Israel's 
contention is that the drone showed up after the shelling had begun and 
released 4 minutes of the drone's own 50 minute camera video taken from a 
height of 4,000 feet showing smoke rising from the buildings in the camp.


"We didn't know civilians were there", said Lt. Col. Moshe Fogel, adding 
Israeli gunners aiming at Hezbollah sites had miscalculated by some 150 
yards. The U.N. report questioned that explanation, with Maj. Gen. Frank 
van Kappen, a Dutch officer, daying the pattern of artillery shell 
impacts is "inconsistent with a normal overshooting."

The army's own logs show the shelling lasted 11 minutes, with 15 whells 
hitting the civilians. This contradicts Israel's original version that 
the base was hit by one or two stray shells.




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat May 11 09:53:42 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: j*wish vigilantes
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Crown Heights NY

Hassidic vigilantes brutally beat an African American man tonight instead 
of calling the police. The violence arose after a dispute over a bicycle.


When police finally were called by other members of the community to 
quell the disturbance, they attempted to arrest the Hassidics, which 
triggered a riot lasting into the wee hours of the morning.

Vigilante groups are common in the neighborhood since the stabbing-murder 
of Yankel Rosenbaum several years ago. The alleged perpetrator in that 
case was acquitted.




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5/10/96
Crown Heights NY

Hassidic vigilantes brutally beat an African American man tonight instead 
of calling the police. The violence arose after a dispute over a bicycle.


When police finally were called by other members of the community to 
quell the disturbance, they attempted to arrest the Hassidics, which 
triggered a riot lasting into the wee hours of the morning.

Vigilante groups are common in the neighborhood since the stabbing-murder 
of Yankel Rosenbaum several years ago. The alleged perpetrator in that 
case was acquitted.




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 13 06:29:20 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: how many BTU to barbecue??
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[Note: The sender, Kevin (No World Order) used to chastise us for being 
hard on things j*wish. He now sends us any technical data refuting the 
lies of eye-witnesses. Our hearts were warmed yesterday by a note from a 
j*w saying, "Thankyou, thankyou for exposing the 'real' Israel." In all 
fairness, not EVERY j*w is a Zionist!

From: No World Order           \ Internet:   

Subject: - May 2, 1996 / "Science suspended" 

Here is one letter, slightly "foreign",  that really warmed my heart:

". . . I find your and your group's web-page informative and very 
thorough.  I
am part German and Hungarian where I received part of my real education.  
I
will be going to Germany this summer.

Being an Engineering graduate, I believe that math never lies, but you 
don't
have to be to understand the following logic (if you consider) that one,
roughly needs the heat energy of 300 Kg of coal to combust one person. 
Multiply this by 6 Million (the persons in question) and you get 1.8 
Million
Tons of coal-which is way above the capacities of Germany during the war.


So if bodies were not burned, where are they ?

The question of time.  One needs 2 hr. today with modern ovens to burn 
one
person and need to produce thousands of BTU 's of energy.  Take that 2 hr.

and divide it by a day.  This works out to 12 bodies without time in
between, even with 100 crematories (this is more than existing sites 
today)

One cannot burn the missing numbers!

Keep in mind the time span from 1943 May to 1945 March which is 660 days.

This will only produce 792, 000 bodies max-not even close to a seven 
digit
figure! (6 Mill)

The question of energy, the law of conservation of mass is true! Nothing 
is
lost or gained;  it's transformed!

Where would all that energy (have) come from to fuel these so-called 
ovens?
And nobody could miss the combustion products, the gases and smell.   I
don't think the Germans would waste the coal, gas or fuel to dispose of 
the
Jews when they hardly had enough fuel to run the tanks!

It does not make sense!    Thank you!"

Thank YOU!  A little common sense and grammar school arithmetic will go 
a
long, long way!

However, there might be another explanation.  I found the following  
some
time ago and had it recently translated:

The Natural Sciences and Technology
under National Socialism:  A Dry Analysis of Special Interest to 
Engineers

Over a period of almost 5 decades the act of "Coming to Terms with the 
Past"
has illuminated every nook and cranny of National-Socialist activity in 
war
and peace.

There is however one phenomenon which, until today, has not been 
described
nor explored, and this is that this cynical ("Nazi") system managed to
impose its own laws even on nature itself.

We present the following arguments in support of this claim.

1. The fourth law of thermodynamics, the so-called National-Socialist one,

asserts that under certain political conditions, the effects of the 
other
three laws may be limited.

Proof: Corpses burn like dry wood in the force-field of National 
Socialism .
The burning can be enhanced with the addition of water, as the following
practical cases demonstrate.

At the Jerusalem Trial of J. Demjanjuk, eyewitness Elyiahu ROSENBERG 
stated
that "after the Germans discovered that women and children burn better 
than
adult males, we had to throw the corpses of men into the fire only at 
the
end." (M=FCnchener Abendzeitung, 27.2.87)

Remark: A person consists of between 60 and 70 % of water. The higher
percentage holds for the bodies children, which, according to eye-
witness
testimony, burnt best of all.

The witness Szyia Warszawsky stated that "when the corpses caught fire, 
they
burnt on their own." (Main record of The Investigation of Nazi Crimes in
Poland).

A statement by French-Jewish doctor C.S. Bendel, sworn on 2.3.46 before 
an
Allied military tribunal in Hamburg, stated that "it is an actual fact 
that
1000 bodies thrown into such a ditch disappeared within an hour, they 
turned
into ashes". (Document reprinted in U. Walendy, "Auschwitz in IG Farben
Prozess", Vlotho 1981, p.58)

2. The National-Socialist law of compact packing or the compression of
matter without pressure.

This was applied in order to pack the optimum number of victims into a 
gas
chamber.  According to eyewitness Dr. Bendel (ibid, p.55), "One thousand
people were brought into a room with dimensions 10 by 4 by 1,6 meters 
(64
cubic meters) [...] This could only be achieved by the German method."

Explanation: The body of an adult fits into a National-Socialist cube of
side 40 centimetres.

3. The law of specific National-Socialist gas circulation. (Spontaneous
homogeneous diffusion in a strongly inhomogeneous cavity-system).

This was confirmed by Judge Melder who tried Ernst Z=FCndel in November 
199=
1 at Munich:

In a gas chamber packed full with people the slowly liberated poison-gas
spreads itself evenly throughout the gas chamber without any fall in
concentration.

4. The law of total annihilation of matter.

Proof: At least at Treblinka around 800 000 murdered people disappeared
without leaving a trace.

5. The National-Socialist principle of oxidation. (Burning with a 
throttled
supply of oxygen or without oxygen altogether).

Applied for the disposal of traces during and after mass-murder of Jews 
in
Poland.

According to perpetrator Rudolf Hoess, "[...] for the most part, those
gassed were burnt behind Crematorium IV [...] The bodies were at first 
burnt
with oil residue, later by pouring on methanol. In the ditches corpses 
were
burnt continuously, that is day and night."  (Martin Broszat (Ed.)
"Commandant in Auschwitz", Munich 1981, p.165 and p.161 respectively).

Witness Szlama Dragon on the burning of corpses at Auschwitz (statement 
made
on 11.5.45):  "[...] there were two 30m long 7m wide and 3m deep ditches 
at
Auschwitz. The edges of the pits were blackened by smoke". (Kogon, 
Langbein
& R=F6ckerl: "Nationalsozialistische Massent=F6tung durch Giftgas"
("National-Socialist Mass-Murder with Poison-Gas"), Frankfurt/M 1983,
p.211).

Explanation: In a hole in the ground fire has normally an insufficient
supply of oxygen. Without National-Socialist technology it is impossible
even today to burn wood and paper piles in a 3-metre deep ditch, let 
alone
heaps of bodies.

Remark: Application of the National-Socialist oxidation principle found 
its
perfect fulfilment at Auschwitz, namely under water. For, in the vicinity 
of
the camp the water table reaches a level just beneath the surface of the
ground. (Compare the photograph in the Magazine of the paper 
S=FCdeutschen
Zeitung of 6.12.91, where one can observe a pool of water next to
Crematorium IV). The burning-ditches were thus full of water.

6. The law of racially determined sensitivity to hydrocyanic acid. (The
selective effect of HCN on homo sapiens Hebraeicus).

Proof:  The gas chambers at Auschwitz were in the immediate vicinity of
other camp facilities, for instance the SS field hospital. Continuous
ventilation of the gas chambers would certainly not have affected the 
guard
detail - clearly a genetically  determined phenomenon. Also, following a
still to be unravelled National-Socialist method, the Jewish work 
details
would have been immune to poison, since they hauled the corpses out of 
the
gas chambers without any protective clothing, gloves or gas-masks.  (M.
Broszat, op. cit. p.130).

7. The gas chamber effect.

In the force-field of a National-Socialist gas chamber there occurs a 
wave
alteration effect, so that the invisible becomes visible.

Eyewitness Boeck, a member of the guard detail, announced during the
1964-1965 Frankfurt Auschwitz trial that he saw disposal squads working 
in
the blue haze of Hydrogen cyanide gas.

Hint: Hydrogen Cyanide is normally colourless; ie. invisible. *

8. The National Socialist principle for generating carbon monoxide with 
the
help of a Diesel engine.

Proof in the case of Treblinka: "There was a Diesel motor in an annex 
which
generated poison gas."  (Kogon, Langbein, R=F6ckerl, op.cit., p.163).

Proof in the case of Belzec: "The engine itself stood there [...], it 
was
Diesel-driven. (K. Gerstein, quoted in Kogon, Langbein & R=F6ckerl, op.
cit.
p.173).

Hint: At that time, to all practical purposes the ideal poison-gas 
generator
would have been readily available in the form of one for generating
producer-gas from wood. With 32% of its volume consisting of carbon
monoxide, the propellant gas formed contained a high proportion of this
highly toxic gas. (Meyer's Encyclopedia/Lexicon, 1974, vol. 12, p.207).

It is clear that special wartime circumstances determined that producer-
gas
generators should have been retained for the maintenance of truck 
transport
on the home front. Thus the extermination camps in the East had to make 
do
with Diesel engines, which even under present political conditions can 
only
emit non-dangerous concentrations of about 0.5% carbon monoxide. 
(Meyer's
Encyclopedia/Lexicon, 1971, vol.1, p.88).  Nevertheless, the 
circumstances
prevailing during the National Socialist reign made it clearly possible 
to
gain substantially greater emissions of carbon monoxide from a diesel
engine, contrary to the design of its inventor. In any case one had to
sacrifice extremely scarce Diesel fuel for this purpose; the producer-
gas
carburator would have had to make do with wood shavings.

The disclosure by natural scientists and technologists of these examples 
of
the fearful capabilities of the terror regime (to name only a few) has 
been
long overdue. For, only the knowledge of these things can neatly round 
off
our picture of National Socialism.

It is amazing that the world has not yet been informed of this, even 
though
the victors carried off thousands of scientists as well as all patents 
and
research results as booty from a vanquished Germany.
____

*Remark of the translator. The German word for hydrocyanic acid (HCN),
Blaus=E4ure, named after the blue in Prussian Blue, itself a cyanide 
compou=
nd iron, might suggest to the ignorant that HCN should have a blue
coloration. In order to sound more authentic perhaps Boeck thought this
would be a realistic detail..."

Ingrid

_____  Dr. Ingrid Rimland is an internationally known keynote
speaker and award-winning author of several books and hundreds of 
columns
and articles.

Her best-known books are "The Furies and the Flame," an autobiography, 
and
"The Wanderers," the epic account of a pacifist group of Mennonites 
escaping
during WW II from Communist persecution.








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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Judge revises justice
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Newark NJ
05/10/96

Thief & stock fraud artist "Crazy Eddie" ANTAR has apparently bargained 
years off his sentence in federal prison. This would seem odd for one who 
bilked over 70 million dollars from stockholders and fled to Israel. He 
was hidden by his homeland brothers, eluding a manhunt of 28 months. They 
allowed extradition, but not before they had relieved him of a third of 
his ill-gotten Shekels.

To comprehend the light sentence, whereby he will most likely be out in 
three years, one need only examine the Judge, one Harold A. ACKERMAN, who 
accepted the plea. ANTAR will be sentenced on Sept 16th. ANTAR was co-
founder of the now-defunct Crazy Eddie, Inc. retailing chain.




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 13 06:29:22 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: SPIELBERG's list
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Date: Thursday, 09-May-96 02:30 PM

From: E. Zundel                \ Internet:    (ezundel@cts.com)
Subject: Shindler's wife asserts film is a lie.

The widow of Oscar Shindler, about whom Steven spielberg mad a movie, 
decries the film as a hoax and a lie.

"Emilie Pelzl Schindler, the ex-wife of Oscar Schindler, whose story is 
told in the movie _Shindler's List_, asserts that the events told about 
in the film were deformed and that her husband never wrote the famous 
list of Jews to be saved from Auschwitz.

In a book of recollections, _Memoirs_, introduced to the press in Buenos 
Aires, Emilie Pelzl Schindler, a Czech citizen and now 89 years old, 
indicates that her ex-husband never went to Auschwitz and that he could 
never have saved the 1,300 Jews whose salvation is attributed to him.

The famous list would not have been written by her husband, but by a 
certain "Goldfman" (sic). Factually, nobody even knows what became of the 
Jews inscribed on that list.








From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 13 07:05:30 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: this will warm y'all's hearts
Date: 13 May 1996 07:18:52 GMT
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[Note: The sender, Kevin (No World Order) used to chastise us for being 
hard on things j*wish. He now sends us any technical data refuting the 
lies of eye-witnesses. Our hearts were warmed yesterday by a note from a 
j*w saying, "Thankyou, thankyou for exposing the 'real' Israel." In all 
fairness, not EVERY j*w is a Zionist!

From: No World Order           \ Internet:   

Subject: - May 2, 1996 / "Science suspended" 

Here is one letter, slightly "foreign",  that really warmed my heart:

". . . I find your and your group's web-page informative and very 
thorough.  I
am part German and Hungarian where I received part of my real education.  
I
will be going to Germany this summer.

Being an Engineering graduate, I believe that math never lies, but you 
don't
have to be to understand the following logic (if you consider) that one,
roughly needs the heat energy of 300 Kg of coal to combust one person. 
Multiply this by 6 Million (the persons in question) and you get 1.8 
Million
Tons of coal-which is way above the capacities of Germany during the war.


So if bodies were not burned, where are they ?

The question of time.  One needs 2 hr. today with modern ovens to burn 
one
person and need to produce thousands of BTU 's of energy.  Take that 2 hr.

and divide it by a day.  This works out to 12 bodies without time in
between, even with 100 crematories (this is more than existing sites 
today)

One cannot burn the missing numbers!

Keep in mind the time span from 1943 May to 1945 March which is 660 days.

This will only produce 792, 000 bodies max-not even close to a seven 
digit
figure! (6 Mill)

The question of energy, the law of conservation of mass is true! Nothing 
is
lost or gained;  it's transformed!

Where would all that energy (have) come from to fuel these so-called 
ovens?
And nobody could miss the combustion products, the gases and smell.   I
don't think the Germans would waste the coal, gas or fuel to dispose of 
the
Jews when they hardly had enough fuel to run the tanks!

It does not make sense!    Thank you!"

Thank YOU!  A little common sense and grammar school arithmetic will go 
a
long, long way!

However, there might be another explanation.  I found the following  
some
time ago and had it recently translated:

The Natural Sciences and Technology
under National Socialism:  A Dry Analysis of Special Interest to 
Engineers

Over a period of almost 5 decades the act of "Coming to Terms with the 
Past"
has illuminated every nook and cranny of National-Socialist activity in 
war
and peace.

There is however one phenomenon which, until today, has not been 
described
nor explored, and this is that this cynical ("Nazi") system managed to
impose its own laws even on nature itself.

We present the following arguments in support of this claim.

1. The fourth law of thermodynamics, the so-called National-Socialist one,

asserts that under certain political conditions, the effects of the 
other
three laws may be limited.

Proof: Corpses burn like dry wood in the force-field of National 
Socialism .
The burning can be enhanced with the addition of water, as the following
practical cases demonstrate.

At the Jerusalem Trial of J. Demjanjuk, eyewitness Elyiahu ROSENBERG 
stated
that "after the Germans discovered that women and children burn better 
than
adult males, we had to throw the corpses of men into the fire only at 
the
end." (M=FCnchener Abendzeitung, 27.2.87)

Remark: A person consists of between 60 and 70 % of water. The higher
percentage holds for the bodies children, which, according to eye-
witness
testimony, burnt best of all.

The witness Szyia Warszawsky stated that "when the corpses caught fire, 
they
burnt on their own." (Main record of The Investigation of Nazi Crimes in
Poland).

A statement by French-Jewish doctor C.S. Bendel, sworn on 2.3.46 before 
an
Allied military tribunal in Hamburg, stated that "it is an actual fact 
that
1000 bodies thrown into such a ditch disappeared within an hour, they 
turned
into ashes". (Document reprinted in U. Walendy, "Auschwitz in IG Farben
Prozess", Vlotho 1981, p.58)

2. The National-Socialist law of compact packing or the compression of
matter without pressure.

This was applied in order to pack the optimum number of victims into a 
gas
chamber.  According to eyewitness Dr. Bendel (ibid, p.55), "One thousand
people were brought into a room with dimensions 10 by 4 by 1,6 meters 
(64
cubic meters) [...] This could only be achieved by the German method."

Explanation: The body of an adult fits into a National-Socialist cube of
side 40 centimetres.

3. The law of specific National-Socialist gas circulation. (Spontaneous
homogeneous diffusion in a strongly inhomogeneous cavity-system).

This was confirmed by Judge Melder who tried Ernst Z=FCndel in November 
199=
1 at Munich:

In a gas chamber packed full with people the slowly liberated poison-gas
spreads itself evenly throughout the gas chamber without any fall in
concentration.

4. The law of total annihilation of matter.

Proof: At least at Treblinka around 800 000 murdered people disappeared
without leaving a trace.

5. The National-Socialist principle of oxidation. (Burning with a 
throttled
supply of oxygen or without oxygen altogether).

Applied for the disposal of traces during and after mass-murder of Jews 
in
Poland.

According to perpetrator Rudolf Hoess, "[...] for the most part, those
gassed were burnt behind Crematorium IV [...] The bodies were at first 
burnt
with oil residue, later by pouring on methanol. In the ditches corpses 
were
burnt continuously, that is day and night."  (Martin Broszat (Ed.)
"Commandant in Auschwitz", Munich 1981, p.165 and p.161 respectively).

Witness Szlama Dragon on the burning of corpses at Auschwitz (statement 
made
on 11.5.45):  "[...] there were two 30m long 7m wide and 3m deep ditches 
at
Auschwitz. The edges of the pits were blackened by smoke". (Kogon, 
Langbein
& R=F6ckerl: "Nationalsozialistische Massent=F6tung durch Giftgas"
("National-Socialist Mass-Murder with Poison-Gas"), Frankfurt/M 1983,
p.211).

Explanation: In a hole in the ground fire has normally an insufficient
supply of oxygen. Without National-Socialist technology it is impossible
even today to burn wood and paper piles in a 3-metre deep ditch, let 
alone
heaps of bodies.

Remark: Application of the National-Socialist oxidation principle found 
its
perfect fulfilment at Auschwitz, namely under water. For, in the vicinity 
of
the camp the water table reaches a level just beneath the surface of the
ground. (Compare the photograph in the Magazine of the paper 
S=FCdeutschen
Zeitung of 6.12.91, where one can observe a pool of water next to
Crematorium IV). The burning-ditches were thus full of water.

6. The law of racially determined sensitivity to hydrocyanic acid. (The
selective effect of HCN on homo sapiens Hebraeicus).

Proof:  The gas chambers at Auschwitz were in the immediate vicinity of
other camp facilities, for instance the SS field hospital. Continuous
ventilation of the gas chambers would certainly not have affected the 
guard
detail - clearly a genetically  determined phenomenon. Also, following a
still to be unravelled National-Socialist method, the Jewish work 
details
would have been immune to poison, since they hauled the corpses out of 
the
gas chambers without any protective clothing, gloves or gas-masks.  (M.
Broszat, op. cit. p.130).

7. The gas chamber effect.

In the force-field of a National-Socialist gas chamber there occurs a 
wave
alteration effect, so that the invisible becomes visible.

Eyewitness Boeck, a member of the guard detail, announced during the
1964-1965 Frankfurt Auschwitz trial that he saw disposal squads working 
in
the blue haze of Hydrogen cyanide gas.

Hint: Hydrogen Cyanide is normally colourless; ie. invisible. *

8. The National Socialist principle for generating carbon monoxide with 
the
help of a Diesel engine.

Proof in the case of Treblinka: "There was a Diesel motor in an annex 
which
generated poison gas."  (Kogon, Langbein, R=F6ckerl, op.cit., p.163).

Proof in the case of Belzec: "The engine itself stood there [...], it 
was
Diesel-driven. (K. Gerstein, quoted in Kogon, Langbein & R=F6ckerl, op.
cit.
p.173).

Hint: At that time, to all practical purposes the ideal poison-gas 
generator
would have been readily available in the form of one for generating
producer-gas from wood. With 32% of its volume consisting of carbon
monoxide, the propellant gas formed contained a high proportion of this
highly toxic gas. (Meyer's Encyclopedia/Lexicon, 1974, vol. 12, p.207).

It is clear that special wartime circumstances determined that producer-
gas
generators should have been retained for the maintenance of truck 
transport
on the home front. Thus the extermination camps in the East had to make 
do
with Diesel engines, which even under present political conditions can 
only
emit non-dangerous concentrations of about 0.5% carbon monoxide. 
(Meyer's
Encyclopedia/Lexicon, 1971, vol.1, p.88).  Nevertheless, the 
circumstances
prevailing during the National Socialist reign made it clearly possible 
to
gain substantially greater emissions of carbon monoxide from a diesel
engine, contrary to the design of its inventor. In any case one had to
sacrifice extremely scarce Diesel fuel for this purpose; the producer-
gas
carburator would have had to make do with wood shavings.

The disclosure by natural scientists and technologists of these examples 
of
the fearful capabilities of the terror regime (to name only a few) has 
been
long overdue. For, only the knowledge of these things can neatly round 
off
our picture of National Socialism.

It is amazing that the world has not yet been informed of this, even 
though
the victors carried off thousands of scientists as well as all patents 
and
research results as booty from a vanquished Germany.
____

*Remark of the translator. The German word for hydrocyanic acid (HCN),
Blaus=E4ure, named after the blue in Prussian Blue, itself a cyanide 
compou=
nd iron, might suggest to the ignorant that HCN should have a blue
coloration. In order to sound more authentic perhaps Boeck thought this
would be a realistic detail..."

Ingrid

_____  Dr. Ingrid Rimland is an internationally known keynote
speaker and award-winning author of several books and hundreds of 
columns
and articles.

Her best-known books are "The Furies and the Flame," an autobiography, 
and
"The Wanderers," the epic account of a pacifist group of Mennonites 
escaping
during WW II from Communist persecution.








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Thief & stock fraud artist "Crazy Eddie" ANTAR has apparently bargained 
years off his sentence in federal prison. This would seem odd for one who 
bilked over 70 million dollars from stockholders and fled to Israel. He 
was hidden by his homeland brothers, eluding a manhunt of 28 months. They 
allowed extradition, but not before they had relieved him of a third of 
his ill-gotten Shekels.

To comprehend the light sentence, whereby he will most likely be out in 
three years, one need only examine the Judge, one Harold A. ACKERMAN, who 
accepted the plea. ANTAR will be sentenced on Sept 16th. ANTAR was co-
founder of the now-defunct Crazy Eddie, Inc. retailing chain.




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From: E. Zundel                \ Internet:    (ezundel@cts.com)
Subject: Shindler's wife asserts film is a lie.

The widow of Oscar Shindler, about whom Steven spielberg mad a movie, 
decries the film as a hoax and a lie.

"Emilie Pelzl Schindler, the ex-wife of Oscar Schindler, whose story is 
told in the movie _Shindler's List_, asserts that the events told about 
in the film were deformed and that her husband never wrote the famous 
list of Jews to be saved from Auschwitz.

In a book of recollections, _Memoirs_, introduced to the press in Buenos 
Aires, Emilie Pelzl Schindler, a Czech citizen and now 89 years old, 
indicates that her ex-husband never went to Auschwitz and that he could 
never have saved the 1,300 Jews whose salvation is attributed to him.

The famous list would not have been written by her husband, but by a 
certain "Goldfman" (sic). Factually, nobody even knows what became of the 
Jews inscribed on that list.








From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 13 07:13:51 PDT 1996
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[Note: The sender, Kevin (No World Order) used to chastise us for being 
hard on things j*wish. He now sends us any technical data refuting the 
lies of eye-witnesses. Our hearts were warmed yesterday by a note from a 
j*w saying, "Thankyou, thankyou for exposing the 'real' Israel." In all 
fairness, not EVERY j*w is a Zionist!

From: No World Order           \ Internet:   

Subject: - May 2, 1996 / "Science suspended" 

Here is one letter, slightly "foreign",  that really warmed my heart:

". . . I find your and your group's web-page informative and very 
thorough.  I
am part German and Hungarian where I received part of my real education.  
I
will be going to Germany this summer.

Being an Engineering graduate, I believe that math never lies, but you 
don't
have to be to understand the following logic (if you consider) that one,
roughly needs the heat energy of 300 Kg of coal to combust one person. 
Multiply this by 6 Million (the persons in question) and you get 1.8 
Million
Tons of coal-which is way above the capacities of Germany during the war.


So if bodies were not burned, where are they ?

The question of time.  One needs 2 hr. today with modern ovens to burn 
one
person and need to produce thousands of BTU 's of energy.  Take that 2 hr.

and divide it by a day.  This works out to 12 bodies without time in
between, even with 100 crematories (this is more than existing sites 
today)

One cannot burn the missing numbers!

Keep in mind the time span from 1943 May to 1945 March which is 660 days.

This will only produce 792, 000 bodies max-not even close to a seven 
digit
figure! (6 Mill)

The question of energy, the law of conservation of mass is true! Nothing 
is
lost or gained;  it's transformed!

Where would all that energy (have) come from to fuel these so-called 
ovens?
And nobody could miss the combustion products, the gases and smell.   I
don't think the Germans would waste the coal, gas or fuel to dispose of 
the
Jews when they hardly had enough fuel to run the tanks!

It does not make sense!    Thank you!"

Thank YOU!  A little common sense and grammar school arithmetic will go 
a
long, long way!

However, there might be another explanation.  I found the following  
some
time ago and had it recently translated:

The Natural Sciences and Technology
under National Socialism:  A Dry Analysis of Special Interest to 
Engineers

Over a period of almost 5 decades the act of "Coming to Terms with the 
Past"
has illuminated every nook and cranny of National-Socialist activity in 
war
and peace.

There is however one phenomenon which, until today, has not been 
described
nor explored, and this is that this cynical ("Nazi") system managed to
impose its own laws even on nature itself.

We present the following arguments in support of this claim.

1. The fourth law of thermodynamics, the so-called National-Socialist one,

asserts that under certain political conditions, the effects of the 
other
three laws may be limited.

Proof: Corpses burn like dry wood in the force-field of National 
Socialism .
The burning can be enhanced with the addition of water, as the following
practical cases demonstrate.

At the Jerusalem Trial of J. Demjanjuk, eyewitness Elyiahu ROSENBERG 
stated
that "after the Germans discovered that women and children burn better 
than
adult males, we had to throw the corpses of men into the fire only at 
the
end." (M=FCnchener Abendzeitung, 27.2.87)

Remark: A person consists of between 60 and 70 % of water. The higher
percentage holds for the bodies children, which, according to eye-
witness
testimony, burnt best of all.

The witness Szyia Warszawsky stated that "when the corpses caught fire, 
they
burnt on their own." (Main record of The Investigation of Nazi Crimes in
Poland).

A statement by French-Jewish doctor C.S. Bendel, sworn on 2.3.46 before 
an
Allied military tribunal in Hamburg, stated that "it is an actual fact 
that
1000 bodies thrown into such a ditch disappeared within an hour, they 
turned
into ashes". (Document reprinted in U. Walendy, "Auschwitz in IG Farben
Prozess", Vlotho 1981, p.58)

2. The National-Socialist law of compact packing or the compression of
matter without pressure.

This was applied in order to pack the optimum number of victims into a 
gas
chamber.  According to eyewitness Dr. Bendel (ibid, p.55), "One thousand
people were brought into a room with dimensions 10 by 4 by 1,6 meters 
(64
cubic meters) [...] This could only be achieved by the German method."

Explanation: The body of an adult fits into a National-Socialist cube of
side 40 centimetres.

3. The law of specific National-Socialist gas circulation. (Spontaneous
homogeneous diffusion in a strongly inhomogeneous cavity-system).

This was confirmed by Judge Melder who tried Ernst Z=FCndel in November 
199=
1 at Munich:

In a gas chamber packed full with people the slowly liberated poison-gas
spreads itself evenly throughout the gas chamber without any fall in
concentration.

4. The law of total annihilation of matter.

Proof: At least at Treblinka around 800 000 murdered people disappeared
without leaving a trace.

5. The National-Socialist principle of oxidation. (Burning with a 
throttled
supply of oxygen or without oxygen altogether).

Applied for the disposal of traces during and after mass-murder of Jews 
in
Poland.

According to perpetrator Rudolf Hoess, "[...] for the most part, those
gassed were burnt behind Crematorium IV [...] The bodies were at first 
burnt
with oil residue, later by pouring on methanol. In the ditches corpses 
were
burnt continuously, that is day and night."  (Martin Broszat (Ed.)
"Commandant in Auschwitz", Munich 1981, p.165 and p.161 respectively).

Witness Szlama Dragon on the burning of corpses at Auschwitz (statement 
made
on 11.5.45):  "[...] there were two 30m long 7m wide and 3m deep ditches 
at
Auschwitz. The edges of the pits were blackened by smoke". (Kogon, 
Langbein
& R=F6ckerl: "Nationalsozialistische Massent=F6tung durch Giftgas"
("National-Socialist Mass-Murder with Poison-Gas"), Frankfurt/M 1983,
p.211).

Explanation: In a hole in the ground fire has normally an insufficient
supply of oxygen. Without National-Socialist technology it is impossible
even today to burn wood and paper piles in a 3-metre deep ditch, let 
alone
heaps of bodies.

Remark: Application of the National-Socialist oxidation principle found 
its
perfect fulfilment at Auschwitz, namely under water. For, in the vicinity 
of
the camp the water table reaches a level just beneath the surface of the
ground. (Compare the photograph in the Magazine of the paper 
S=FCdeutschen
Zeitung of 6.12.91, where one can observe a pool of water next to
Crematorium IV). The burning-ditches were thus full of water.

6. The law of racially determined sensitivity to hydrocyanic acid. (The
selective effect of HCN on homo sapiens Hebraeicus).

Proof:  The gas chambers at Auschwitz were in the immediate vicinity of
other camp facilities, for instance the SS field hospital. Continuous
ventilation of the gas chambers would certainly not have affected the 
guard
detail - clearly a genetically  determined phenomenon. Also, following a
still to be unravelled National-Socialist method, the Jewish work 
details
would have been immune to poison, since they hauled the corpses out of 
the
gas chambers without any protective clothing, gloves or gas-masks.  (M.
Broszat, op. cit. p.130).

7. The gas chamber effect.

In the force-field of a National-Socialist gas chamber there occurs a 
wave
alteration effect, so that the invisible becomes visible.

Eyewitness Boeck, a member of the guard detail, announced during the
1964-1965 Frankfurt Auschwitz trial that he saw disposal squads working 
in
the blue haze of Hydrogen cyanide gas.

Hint: Hydrogen Cyanide is normally colourless; ie. invisible. *

8. The National Socialist principle for generating carbon monoxide with 
the
help of a Diesel engine.

Proof in the case of Treblinka: "There was a Diesel motor in an annex 
which
generated poison gas."  (Kogon, Langbein, R=F6ckerl, op.cit., p.163).

Proof in the case of Belzec: "The engine itself stood there [...], it 
was
Diesel-driven. (K. Gerstein, quoted in Kogon, Langbein & R=F6ckerl, op.
cit.
p.173).

Hint: At that time, to all practical purposes the ideal poison-gas 
generator
would have been readily available in the form of one for generating
producer-gas from wood. With 32% of its volume consisting of carbon
monoxide, the propellant gas formed contained a high proportion of this
highly toxic gas. (Meyer's Encyclopedia/Lexicon, 1974, vol. 12, p.207).

It is clear that special wartime circumstances determined that producer-
gas
generators should have been retained for the maintenance of truck 
transport
on the home front. Thus the extermination camps in the East had to make 
do
with Diesel engines, which even under present political conditions can 
only
emit non-dangerous concentrations of about 0.5% carbon monoxide. 
(Meyer's
Encyclopedia/Lexicon, 1971, vol.1, p.88).  Nevertheless, the 
circumstances
prevailing during the National Socialist reign made it clearly possible 
to
gain substantially greater emissions of carbon monoxide from a diesel
engine, contrary to the design of its inventor. In any case one had to
sacrifice extremely scarce Diesel fuel for this purpose; the producer-
gas
carburator would have had to make do with wood shavings.

The disclosure by natural scientists and technologists of these examples 
of
the fearful capabilities of the terror regime (to name only a few) has 
been
long overdue. For, only the knowledge of these things can neatly round 
off
our picture of National Socialism.

It is amazing that the world has not yet been informed of this, even 
though
the victors carried off thousands of scientists as well as all patents 
and
research results as booty from a vanquished Germany.
____

*Remark of the translator. The German word for hydrocyanic acid (HCN),
Blaus=E4ure, named after the blue in Prussian Blue, itself a cyanide 
compou=
nd iron, might suggest to the ignorant that HCN should have a blue
coloration. In order to sound more authentic perhaps Boeck thought this
would be a realistic detail..."

Ingrid

_____  Dr. Ingrid Rimland is an internationally known keynote
speaker and award-winning author of several books and hundreds of 
columns
and articles.

Her best-known books are "The Furies and the Flame," an autobiography, 
and
"The Wanderers," the epic account of a pacifist group of Mennonites 
escaping
during WW II from Communist persecution.








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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Crazy Eddie hooks kinsman judge
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Thief & stock fraud artist "Crazy Eddie" ANTAR has apparently bargained 
years off his sentence in federal prison. This would seem odd for one who 
bilked over 70 million dollars from stockholders and fled to Israel. He 
was hidden by his homeland brothers, eluding a manhunt of 28 months. They 
allowed extradition, but not before they had relieved him of a third of 
his ill-gotten Shekels.

To comprehend the light sentence, whereby he will most likely be out in 
three years, one need only examine the Judge, one Harold A. ACKERMAN, who 
accepted the plea. ANTAR will be sentenced on Sept 16th. ANTAR was co-
founder of the now-defunct Crazy Eddie, Inc. retailing chain.




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 13 07:13:53 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: SPIELBERG's lies
Date: 13 May 1996 07:21:29 GMT
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Date: Thursday, 09-May-96 02:30 PM

From: E. Zundel                \ Internet:    (ezundel@cts.com)
Subject: Shindler's wife asserts film is a lie.

The widow of Oscar Shindler, about whom Steven spielberg mad a movie, 
decries the film as a hoax and a lie.

"Emilie Pelzl Schindler, the ex-wife of Oscar Schindler, whose story is 
told in the movie _Shindler's List_, asserts that the events told about 
in the film were deformed and that her husband never wrote the famous 
list of Jews to be saved from Auschwitz.

In a book of recollections, _Memoirs_, introduced to the press in Buenos 
Aires, Emilie Pelzl Schindler, a Czech citizen and now 89 years old, 
indicates that her ex-husband never went to Auschwitz and that he could 
never have saved the 1,300 Jews whose salvation is attributed to him.

The famous list would not have been written by her husband, but by a 
certain "Goldfman" (sic). Factually, nobody even knows what became of the 
Jews inscribed on that list.








From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 13 07:20:31 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: BTU's warm our hearts
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[Note: The sender, Kevin (No World Order) used to chastise us for being 
hard on things j*wish. He now sends us any technical data refuting the 
lies of eye-witnesses. Our hearts were warmed yesterday by a note from a 
j*w saying, "Thankyou, thankyou for exposing the 'real' Israel." In all 
fairness, not EVERY j*w is a Zionist!

From: No World Order           \ Internet:   

Subject: - May 2, 1996 / "Science suspended" 

Here is one letter, slightly "foreign",  that really warmed my heart:

". . . I find your and your group's web-page informative and very 
thorough.  I
am part German and Hungarian where I received part of my real education.  
I
will be going to Germany this summer.

Being an Engineering graduate, I believe that math never lies, but you 
don't
have to be to understand the following logic (if you consider) that one,
roughly needs the heat energy of 300 Kg of coal to combust one person. 
Multiply this by 6 Million (the persons in question) and you get 1.8 
Million
Tons of coal-which is way above the capacities of Germany during the war.


So if bodies were not burned, where are they ?

The question of time.  One needs 2 hr. today with modern ovens to burn 
one
person and need to produce thousands of BTU 's of energy.  Take that 2 hr.

and divide it by a day.  This works out to 12 bodies without time in
between, even with 100 crematories (this is more than existing sites 
today)

One cannot burn the missing numbers!

Keep in mind the time span from 1943 May to 1945 March which is 660 days.

This will only produce 792, 000 bodies max-not even close to a seven 
digit
figure! (6 Mill)

The question of energy, the law of conservation of mass is true! Nothing 
is
lost or gained;  it's transformed!

Where would all that energy (have) come from to fuel these so-called 
ovens?
And nobody could miss the combustion products, the gases and smell.   I
don't think the Germans would waste the coal, gas or fuel to dispose of 
the
Jews when they hardly had enough fuel to run the tanks!

It does not make sense!    Thank you!"

Thank YOU!  A little common sense and grammar school arithmetic will go 
a
long, long way!

However, there might be another explanation.  I found the following  
some
time ago and had it recently translated:

The Natural Sciences and Technology
under National Socialism:  A Dry Analysis of Special Interest to 
Engineers

Over a period of almost 5 decades the act of "Coming to Terms with the 
Past"
has illuminated every nook and cranny of National-Socialist activity in 
war
and peace.

There is however one phenomenon which, until today, has not been 
described
nor explored, and this is that this cynical ("Nazi") system managed to
impose its own laws even on nature itself.

We present the following arguments in support of this claim.

1. The fourth law of thermodynamics, the so-called National-Socialist one,

asserts that under certain political conditions, the effects of the 
other
three laws may be limited.

Proof: Corpses burn like dry wood in the force-field of National 
Socialism .
The burning can be enhanced with the addition of water, as the following
practical cases demonstrate.

At the Jerusalem Trial of J. Demjanjuk, eyewitness Elyiahu ROSENBERG 
stated
that "after the Germans discovered that women and children burn better 
than
adult males, we had to throw the corpses of men into the fire only at 
the
end." (M=FCnchener Abendzeitung, 27.2.87)

Remark: A person consists of between 60 and 70 % of water. The higher
percentage holds for the bodies children, which, according to eye-
witness
testimony, burnt best of all.

The witness Szyia Warszawsky stated that "when the corpses caught fire, 
they
burnt on their own." (Main record of The Investigation of Nazi Crimes in
Poland).

A statement by French-Jewish doctor C.S. Bendel, sworn on 2.3.46 before 
an
Allied military tribunal in Hamburg, stated that "it is an actual fact 
that
1000 bodies thrown into such a ditch disappeared within an hour, they 
turned
into ashes". (Document reprinted in U. Walendy, "Auschwitz in IG Farben
Prozess", Vlotho 1981, p.58)

2. The National-Socialist law of compact packing or the compression of
matter without pressure.

This was applied in order to pack the optimum number of victims into a 
gas
chamber.  According to eyewitness Dr. Bendel (ibid, p.55), "One thousand
people were brought into a room with dimensions 10 by 4 by 1,6 meters 
(64
cubic meters) [...] This could only be achieved by the German method."

Explanation: The body of an adult fits into a National-Socialist cube of
side 40 centimetres.

3. The law of specific National-Socialist gas circulation. (Spontaneous
homogeneous diffusion in a strongly inhomogeneous cavity-system).

This was confirmed by Judge Melder who tried Ernst Z=FCndel in November 
199=
1 at Munich:

In a gas chamber packed full with people the slowly liberated poison-gas
spreads itself evenly throughout the gas chamber without any fall in
concentration.

4. The law of total annihilation of matter.

Proof: At least at Treblinka around 800 000 murdered people disappeared
without leaving a trace.

5. The National-Socialist principle of oxidation. (Burning with a 
throttled
supply of oxygen or without oxygen altogether).

Applied for the disposal of traces during and after mass-murder of Jews 
in
Poland.

According to perpetrator Rudolf Hoess, "[...] for the most part, those
gassed were burnt behind Crematorium IV [...] The bodies were at first 
burnt
with oil residue, later by pouring on methanol. In the ditches corpses 
were
burnt continuously, that is day and night."  (Martin Broszat (Ed.)
"Commandant in Auschwitz", Munich 1981, p.165 and p.161 respectively).

Witness Szlama Dragon on the burning of corpses at Auschwitz (statement 
made
on 11.5.45):  "[...] there were two 30m long 7m wide and 3m deep ditches 
at
Auschwitz. The edges of the pits were blackened by smoke". (Kogon, 
Langbein
& R=F6ckerl: "Nationalsozialistische Massent=F6tung durch Giftgas"
("National-Socialist Mass-Murder with Poison-Gas"), Frankfurt/M 1983,
p.211).

Explanation: In a hole in the ground fire has normally an insufficient
supply of oxygen. Without National-Socialist technology it is impossible
even today to burn wood and paper piles in a 3-metre deep ditch, let 
alone
heaps of bodies.

Remark: Application of the National-Socialist oxidation principle found 
its
perfect fulfilment at Auschwitz, namely under water. For, in the vicinity 
of
the camp the water table reaches a level just beneath the surface of the
ground. (Compare the photograph in the Magazine of the paper 
S=FCdeutschen
Zeitung of 6.12.91, where one can observe a pool of water next to
Crematorium IV). The burning-ditches were thus full of water.

6. The law of racially determined sensitivity to hydrocyanic acid. (The
selective effect of HCN on homo sapiens Hebraeicus).

Proof:  The gas chambers at Auschwitz were in the immediate vicinity of
other camp facilities, for instance the SS field hospital. Continuous
ventilation of the gas chambers would certainly not have affected the 
guard
detail - clearly a genetically  determined phenomenon. Also, following a
still to be unravelled National-Socialist method, the Jewish work 
details
would have been immune to poison, since they hauled the corpses out of 
the
gas chambers without any protective clothing, gloves or gas-masks.  (M.
Broszat, op. cit. p.130).

7. The gas chamber effect.

In the force-field of a National-Socialist gas chamber there occurs a 
wave
alteration effect, so that the invisible becomes visible.

Eyewitness Boeck, a member of the guard detail, announced during the
1964-1965 Frankfurt Auschwitz trial that he saw disposal squads working 
in
the blue haze of Hydrogen cyanide gas.

Hint: Hydrogen Cyanide is normally colourless; ie. invisible. *

8. The National Socialist principle for generating carbon monoxide with 
the
help of a Diesel engine.

Proof in the case of Treblinka: "There was a Diesel motor in an annex 
which
generated poison gas."  (Kogon, Langbein, R=F6ckerl, op.cit., p.163).

Proof in the case of Belzec: "The engine itself stood there [...], it 
was
Diesel-driven. (K. Gerstein, quoted in Kogon, Langbein & R=F6ckerl, op.
cit.
p.173).

Hint: At that time, to all practical purposes the ideal poison-gas 
generator
would have been readily available in the form of one for generating
producer-gas from wood. With 32% of its volume consisting of carbon
monoxide, the propellant gas formed contained a high proportion of this
highly toxic gas. (Meyer's Encyclopedia/Lexicon, 1974, vol. 12, p.207).

It is clear that special wartime circumstances determined that producer-
gas
generators should have been retained for the maintenance of truck 
transport
on the home front. Thus the extermination camps in the East had to make 
do
with Diesel engines, which even under present political conditions can 
only
emit non-dangerous concentrations of about 0.5% carbon monoxide. 
(Meyer's
Encyclopedia/Lexicon, 1971, vol.1, p.88).  Nevertheless, the 
circumstances
prevailing during the National Socialist reign made it clearly possible 
to
gain substantially greater emissions of carbon monoxide from a diesel
engine, contrary to the design of its inventor. In any case one had to
sacrifice extremely scarce Diesel fuel for this purpose; the producer-
gas
carburator would have had to make do with wood shavings.

The disclosure by natural scientists and technologists of these examples 
of
the fearful capabilities of the terror regime (to name only a few) has 
been
long overdue. For, only the knowledge of these things can neatly round 
off
our picture of National Socialism.

It is amazing that the world has not yet been informed of this, even 
though
the victors carried off thousands of scientists as well as all patents 
and
research results as booty from a vanquished Germany.
____

*Remark of the translator. The German word for hydrocyanic acid (HCN),
Blaus=E4ure, named after the blue in Prussian Blue, itself a cyanide 
compou=
nd iron, might suggest to the ignorant that HCN should have a blue
coloration. In order to sound more authentic perhaps Boeck thought this
would be a realistic detail..."

Ingrid

_____  Dr. Ingrid Rimland is an internationally known keynote
speaker and award-winning author of several books and hundreds of 
columns
and articles.

Her best-known books are "The Furies and the Flame," an autobiography, 
and
"The Wanderers," the epic account of a pacifist group of Mennonites 
escaping
during WW II from Communist persecution.








From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 13 07:20:33 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: SPIELBERG's list
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From: E. Zundel                \ Internet:    (ezundel@cts.com)
Subject: Shindler's wife asserts film is a lie.

The widow of Oscar Shindler, about whom Steven spielberg mad a movie, 
decries the film as a hoax and a lie.

"Emilie Pelzl Schindler, the ex-wife of Oscar Schindler, whose story is 
told in the movie _Shindler's List_, asserts that the events told about 
in the film were deformed and that her husband never wrote the famous 
list of Jews to be saved from Auschwitz.

In a book of recollections, _Memoirs_, introduced to the press in Buenos 
Aires, Emilie Pelzl Schindler, a Czech citizen and now 89 years old, 
indicates that her ex-husband never went to Auschwitz and that he could 
never have saved the 1,300 Jews whose salvation is attributed to him.

The famous list would not have been written by her husband, but by a 
certain "Goldfman" (sic). Factually, nobody even knows what became of the 
Jews inscribed on that list.








From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 13 07:20:33 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Newark NJ
05/10/96

Thief & stock fraud artist "Crazy Eddie" ANTAR has apparently bargained 
years off his sentence in federal prison. This would seem odd for one who 
bilked over 70 million dollars from stockholders and fled to Israel. He 
was hidden by his homeland brothers, eluding a manhunt of 28 months. They 
allowed extradition, but not before they had relieved him of a third of 
his ill-gotten Shekels.

To comprehend the light sentence, whereby he will most likely be out in 
three years, one need only examine the Judge, one Harold A. ACKERMAN, who 
accepted the plea. ANTAR will be sentenced on Sept 16th. ANTAR was co-
founder of the now-defunct Crazy Eddie, Inc. retailing chain.




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:15:11 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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05/03/96
_The Cicero Gazette_

Hamilton, Ontario

An honest politician, of sorts, has turned up in Canada. The deputy prime 
minister resigned yesterday after a week of public pressure, reluctantly 
fulfilling a 1993 campaign promise to quit if the govt' didn't scrap the 
national sales tax.

Sheila Copps, 43, the No. 2 official in the Liberal Party of Prime 
Minister Jean Chretien was put in an embarassing position last week when 
the govt' acknowledged it would not carry out its pledge to abolish the 
tax. She did try to hang on (pay attention Americans!) saying her pledge 
to quit was a "fast-lip comment" that shouldn't be held against her. 
Voters in the Lake Ontario steel city of Hamilton demanded she fulfill 
her promise.

It was only 100 years ago that proletariats hung politicians and judges 
for breach of public sentiment.

Ahhhhh.... the good old days.
******************************




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05/13/96
Edmond, OK

After 4 years of litigation, the Supreme Court turned down the town of 
Edmond,Oklahoma today in their bid to keep a cross on the town's shield. 
The logo is on street signs at the edge of town and on the city's flag in 
front of the town hall. 

It is interesting to note that ABC TV has changed their reporting format 
since being taken over by michael EISNER's group. Rather than giving 
detail and full names of those involved in a case like this, they said 
simply the suit was filed by "four Unitarians and a jewish man."
**************************

February, 1996


SUBJECT: J-wish conspiracy continues 
Officials in Vinton County are fighting an attempt by the ACLU to remove 
a cross from atop the county courthouse.  Rep. F Cremeans who represents 
the county in Congress has vowed to fight the ACLU challenge.

To support the county, contact the county commission, 100E Main, Mc 
Arthur, Ohio 45651

(614) 596-4571 




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Subject: two peas in a pod
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5/13/96
Abidjan, Ivory Coast

A freighter teeming with more than 4 thousand sick and hungry Liberian 
refugees is still at sea. The passengers are fleeing the Holocaust being 
inflicted on Liberian nationals by feuding warlords. The ship has been 
turned away at 4 ports of call. Ghanaian authorities only allowed the 
Nigerian freighter _Bulk Challenge_ to dock for refueling before heading 
to Lagos, Nigeria. No passengers were allowed to disembark for medical 
care nor were doctors allowed to board. The refugees are suffering from 
dehydration, dysentery and pneumonia.

Israel has been conspicuous by her silence. We suggest Israel accept 
these pathetic refugees since she made a major issue out of claiming that 
President Roosevelt turned away a shipload of jewish refugees fleeing 
Europe. Rabbi yisroel TANNENBAUM in 1953 promised to "punish America" for 
that incident, and may have been exposing the liberal jewish conspiracy 
to dumb-down America with that statement.
************************************








From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:15:13 PDT 1996
Article: 36953 of alt.revisionism
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: web-site posts banned book info
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5/12/96
Internet

CODOH International (http://www.valleynet.com/~brsmith/) has expanded 
its
"DAVID IRVING PAGE."  In addition to the introduction to Irving's
suppressed book, "Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich," two articles 
are now available that give insight to Irving's recently censored work.  
These
articles, "Revelations from Joseph Goebbels' Diary"  and "The Suppressed
Eichmann and Goebbels Papers" are taken from speeches that Mr. Irving 
gave
at the Eleventh and Twelfth International Revisionist Conferences.

Readers may now access the gist of Irving's controversial assessment of 
the
life and career of Hitler's propaganda minister. Accompanying this 
revealing
document is Irving's account of how he uncovered -- in the former Soviet
archives in Moscow -- days, months and years of key entries in Goebbels'
diaries previously unknown to Western scholars, entries which provide 
the
chief evidentiary basis for the biography.





From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:15:14 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: j*ws FOR revisionism
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05/12/96

Germany:

Readers who speak German, please check the details in our "German News"
section of an upcoming trial in Germany, to start May 7, that will 
involve
the impressively written "Grundlagen zur Zeitgeschichte."  (Foundations 
of
Contemporary History) Of particular interest in this court case is that 
a
number of Jews have agreed to testify on behalf of the defendants that 
they
consider themselves neither "insulted" nor "defamed" by Revisionism, but
nonetheless, they are not expected to be allowed to testify.





From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:45:28 PDT 1996
Article: 19974 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: j*ws vs. crosses
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05/13/96
Edmond, OK

After 4 years of litigation, the Supreme Court turned down the town of 
Edmond,Oklahoma today in their bid to keep a cross on the town's shield. 
The logo is on street signs at the edge of town and on the city's flag in 
front of the town hall. 

It is interesting to note that ABC TV has changed their reporting format 
since being taken over by michael EISNER's group. Rather than giving 
detail and full names of those involved in a case like this, they said 
simply the suit was filed by "four Unitarians and a jewish man."
**************************

February, 1996


SUBJECT: J-wish conspiracy continues 
Officials in Vinton County are fighting an attempt by the ACLU to remove 
a cross from atop the county courthouse.  Rep. F Cremeans who represents 
the county in Congress has vowed to fight the ACLU challenge.

To support the county, contact the county commission, 100E Main, Mc 
Arthur, Ohio 45651

(614) 596-4571 




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:45:29 PDT 1996
Article: 19975 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: j*ws should rescue Liberians
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5/13/96
Abidjan, Ivory Coast

A freighter teeming with more than 4 thousand sick and hungry Liberian 
refugees is still at sea. The passengers are fleeing the Holocaust being 
inflicted on Liberian nationals by feuding warlords. The ship has been 
turned away at 4 ports of call. Ghanaian authorities only allowed the 
Nigerian freighter _Bulk Challenge_ to dock for refueling before heading 
to Lagos, Nigeria. No passengers were allowed to disembark for medical 
care nor were doctors allowed to board. The refugees are suffering from 
dehydration, dysentery and pneumonia.

Israel has been conspicuous by her silence. We suggest Israel accept 
these pathetic refugees since she made a major issue out of claiming that 
President Roosevelt turned away a shipload of jewish refugees fleeing 
Europe. Rabbi yisroel TANNENBAUM in 1953 promised to "punish America" for 
that incident, and may have been exposing the liberal jewish conspiracy 
to dumb-down America with that statement.
************************************








From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:45:30 PDT 1996
Article: 19976 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: banned German book on web-site
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5/12/96
Internet

CODOH International (http://www.valleynet.com/~brsmith/) has expanded 
its
"DAVID IRVING PAGE."  In addition to the introduction to Irving's
suppressed book, "Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich," two articles 
are now available that give insight to Irving's recently censored work.  
These
articles, "Revelations from Joseph Goebbels' Diary"  and "The Suppressed
Eichmann and Goebbels Papers" are taken from speeches that Mr. Irving 
gave
at the Eleventh and Twelfth International Revisionist Conferences.

Readers may now access the gist of Irving's controversial assessment of 
the
life and career of Hitler's propaganda minister. Accompanying this 
revealing
document is Irving's account of how he uncovered -- in the former Soviet
archives in Moscow -- days, months and years of key entries in Goebbels'
diaries previously unknown to Western scholars, entries which provide 
the
chief evidentiary basis for the biography.





From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:45:30 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: j*ws testify FOR White guys
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05/12/96

Germany:

Readers who speak German, please check the details in our "German News"
section of an upcoming trial in Germany, to start May 7, that will 
involve
the impressively written "Grundlagen zur Zeitgeschichte."  (Foundations 
of
Contemporary History) Of particular interest in this court case is that 
a
number of Jews have agreed to testify on behalf of the defendants that 
they
consider themselves neither "insulted" nor "defamed" by Revisionism, but
nonetheless, they are not expected to be allowed to testify.





From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:53:46 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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5/13/96
Abidjan, Ivory Coast

A freighter teeming with more than 4 thousand sick and hungry Liberian 
refugees is still at sea. The passengers are fleeing the Holocaust being 
inflicted on Liberian nationals by feuding warlords. The ship has been 
turned away at 4 ports of call. Ghanaian authorities only allowed the 
Nigerian freighter _Bulk Challenge_ to dock for refueling before heading 
to Lagos, Nigeria. No passengers were allowed to disembark for medical 
care nor were doctors allowed to board. The refugees are suffering from 
dehydration, dysentery and pneumonia.

Israel has been conspicuous by her silence. We suggest Israel accept 
these pathetic refugees since she made a major issue out of claiming that 
President Roosevelt turned away a shipload of jewish refugees fleeing 
Europe. Rabbi yisroel TANNENBAUM in 1953 promised to "punish America" for 
that incident, and may have been exposing the liberal jewish conspiracy 
to dumb-down America with that statement.
************************************








From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:53:47 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: when is YOUR cross to burn??
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************************************************
SUBJECT: J-wish conspiracy continues
 
Officials in Vinton County are fighting an attempt by the ACLU to remove 
a cross from atop the county courthouse.  Rep. F Cremeans who represents 
the county in Congress has vowed to fight the ACLU challenge.

To support the county, contact the county commission, 100E Main, Mc 
Arthur, Ohio 45651

(614) 596-4571
*************************************************** 
05/13/96
Edmond, OK

After 4 years of litigation, the Supreme Court turned down the town of 
Edmond,Oklahoma today in their bid to keep a cross on the town's shield. 
The logo is on street signs at the edge of town and on the city's flag in 
front of the town hall. 

It is interesting to note that ABC TV has changed their reporting format 
since being taken over by michael EISNER's group. Rather than giving 
detail and full names of those involved in a case like this, they said 
simply the suit was filed by "four Unitarians and a jewish man."
**************************




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:53:48 PDT 1996
Article: 28641 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: Goebbels book on web-site
Date: 14 May 1996 09:51:40 GMT
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5/12/96
Internet

CODOH International (http://www.valleynet.com/~brsmith/) has expanded 
its
"DAVID IRVING PAGE."  In addition to the introduction to Irving's
suppressed book, "Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich," two articles 
are now available that give insight to Irving's recently censored work.  
These
articles, "Revelations from Joseph Goebbels' Diary"  and "The Suppressed
Eichmann and Goebbels Papers" are taken from speeches that Mr. Irving 
gave
at the Eleventh and Twelfth International Revisionist Conferences.

Readers may now access the gist of Irving's controversial assessment of 
the
life and career of Hitler's propaganda minister. Accompanying this 
revealing
document is Irving's account of how he uncovered -- in the former Soviet
archives in Moscow -- days, months and years of key entries in Goebbels'
diaries previously unknown to Western scholars, entries which provide 
the
chief evidentiary basis for the biography.





From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:53:48 PDT 1996
Article: 28815 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: j*ws testify FOR White guys
Date: 15 May 1996 15:58:22 GMT
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05/12/96

Germany:

Readers who speak German, please check the details in our "German News"
section of an upcoming trial in Germany, to start May 7, that will 
involve
the impressively written "Grundlagen zur Zeitgeschichte."  (Foundations 
of
Contemporary History) Of particular interest in this court case is that 
a
number of Jews have agreed to testify on behalf of the defendants that 
they
consider themselves neither "insulted" nor "defamed" by Revisionism, but
nonetheless, they are not expected to be allowed to testify.





From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:53:49 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Re: Kevin's honey (was: Water, water everywhere!)
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>
>I can access the web page for you, but essentially, what it says is,
>anyone of wholly white European ancestry.  It makes specific mention of
>jews, why I don't know.  Anyway, it states unequivocally that jews are 
NOT
>white.
>
>Les

Ethnic 'true' j*ws are not White. They are Semites by bloodline.

False j*ws, e.g., European & Slavic [Russian] j*ws are Kerusaks [They 
call 'em Kulaks over there].  They are White, but then they are not j*ws 
by bloodline. They converted under the Ottomans to avoid the bloodshed 
between Christians & Muslims.

Sandra



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:53:50 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Re: Liberian boat mimics j*ws
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>and because Jews looked, acted and
>probably smelled different than the rest of society. Those differences
>don't really stand out in a melting pot like the USA, which is orders of 

>magnituude more prosperous and secure than Germany between the wars 
>(our 
>high levels of street crime irregardless).
>
>But if you want to waste your time, go right ahead. I'm sure you'll be 
>*real proud* when you are old and grey, looking back on a rich life of 
>petty innuendo, malicious distortion and, unquestionably, failure.


And hopefully to look  forward to a world free of Zionist bullshit.

Sandra



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 12:53:50 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Re: To whom are Jews loyal to??
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Who are Jews loyal to?
>
>Jonathan Pollard  is a convicted spy for Israel, yet Jewish groups call 
for
>his release. 
>
>" During a visit to Winnipeg last November, Pollard's sister Carol noted 

>that he suffers from glaucoma and hemmorhoids, and claimed American 
>government authorities were hoping he'd die in prison.


We all know how he got those hemorrhoids in prison.  Anyhow, ex-NYC Mayor 
ed KOCH, the self-styled "Voice of Treason" said on WABC Radio that the 
"only mistake Israel made in the Pollard case was to hire a Jew."

That being said, he joins the ranks of those slime-infested little 
cultish-people working for the destrucktion of America.

Sandra



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 13:26:23 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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5/12/96
Internet

CODOH International (http://www.valleynet.com/~brsmith/) has expanded 
its
"DAVID IRVING PAGE."  In addition to the introduction to Irving's
suppressed book, "Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich," two articles 
are now available that give insight to Irving's recently censored work.  
These
articles, "Revelations from Joseph Goebbels' Diary"  and "The Suppressed
Eichmann and Goebbels Papers" are taken from speeches that Mr. Irving 
gave
at the Eleventh and Twelfth International Revisionist Conferences.

Readers may now access the gist of Irving's controversial assessment of 
the
life and career of Hitler's propaganda minister. Accompanying this 
revealing
document is Irving's account of how he uncovered -- in the former Soviet
archives in Moscow -- days, months and years of key entries in Goebbels'
diaries previously unknown to Western scholars, entries which provide 
the
chief evidentiary basis for the biography.





From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 13:26:24 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Liberians in same boat as j*ws
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5/13/96
Abidjan, Ivory Coast

A freighter teeming with more than 4 thousand sick and hungry Liberian 
refugees is still at sea. The passengers are fleeing the Holocaust being 
inflicted on Liberian nationals by feuding warlords. The ship has been 
turned away at 4 ports of call. Ghanaian authorities only allowed the 
Nigerian freighter _Bulk Challenge_ to dock for refueling before heading 
to Lagos, Nigeria. No passengers were allowed to disembark for medical 
care nor were doctors allowed to board. The refugees are suffering from 
dehydration, dysentery and pneumonia.

Israel has been conspicuous by her silence. We suggest Israel accept 
these pathetic refugees since she made a major issue out of claiming that 
President Roosevelt turned away a shipload of jewish refugees fleeing 
Europe. Rabbi yisroel TANNENBAUM in 1953 promised to "punish America" for 
that incident, and may have been exposing the liberal jewish conspiracy 
to dumb-down America with that statement.
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From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 13:26:25 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: more crosses coming down in USA
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05/13/96
Edmond, OK

After 4 years of litigation, the Supreme Court turned down the town of 
Edmond,Oklahoma today in their bid to keep a cross on the town's shield. 
The logo is on street signs at the edge of town and on the city's flag in 
front of the town hall. 

It is interesting to note that ABC TV has changed their reporting format 
since being taken over by michael EISNER's group. Rather than giving 
detail and full names of those involved in a case like this, they said 
simply the suit was filed by "four Unitarians and a jewish man."
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From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 16 13:26:25 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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05/03/96
_The Cicero Gazette_

Hamilton, Ontario

An honest politician, of sorts, has turned up in Canada. The deputy prime 
minister resigned yesterday after a week of public pressure, reluctantly 
fulfilling a 1993 campaign promise to quit if the govt' didn't scrap the 
national sales tax.

Sheila Copps, 43, the No. 2 official in the Liberal Party of Prime 
Minister Jean Chretien was put in an embarassing position last week when 
the govt' acknowledged it would not carry out its pledge to abolish the 
tax. She did try to hang on (pay attention Americans!) saying her pledge 
to quit was a "fast-lip comment" that shouldn't be held against her. 
Voters in the Lake Ontario steel city of Hamilton demanded she fulfill 
her promise.

It was only 100 years ago that proletariats hung politicians and judges 
for breach of public sentiment.

Ahhhhh.... the good old days.
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05/12/96

Germany:

Readers who speak German, please check the details in our "German News"
section of an upcoming trial in Germany, to start May 7, that will 
involve
the impressively written "Grundlagen zur Zeitgeschichte."  (Foundations 
of
Contemporary History) Of particular interest in this court case is that 
a
number of Jews have agreed to testify on behalf of the defendants that 
they
consider themselves neither "insulted" nor "defamed" by Revisionism, but
nonetheless, they are not expected to be allowed to testify.





From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 22 23:52:18 PDT 1996
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In every country where they have acquired political savvy, j*ws have 
pushed for liberal immigration policies which dilute the area's culture, 
language and financial resources. Nowhere has this sabotage been more 
potent than in america and Germany. Now, a high court may be reversing 
that trend; but is it too late?

Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 11:04 PM

_Avoiding political storm, German high court backs tough asylum law_ 
(AP)

BONN, Germany (May 14, 1996 4:30 p.m. EDT) -- Germany's highest court 
upheld
on Tuesday a 1993 asylum law that dramatically curbed immigration and 
eased
politicians' fears of a resurgence of right-wing violence against
foreigners.

The Federal Constitutional Court rejected a series of challenges to the 
law
that had scrapped Germany's open-door policy for millions of displaced
people and gave authorities wide powers to turn asylum-seekers back to
neighboring countries.

The eight-judge panel ordered additional safeguards to ensure deported
refugees don't wind up back in a country where they risk persecution. 
But
activists involved in the asylum issue called the changes cosmetic and 
said
the court had failed to uphold refugees' human rights.

Chancellor Helmut Kohl said the ruling was "very helpful for the future.
"

The court, meeting at its seat in Karlsruhe, dismissed appeals by five
refugees who charged the asylum law was unconstitutional.

A spokeswoman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, Judith Kumin,
called the verdict "disappointing." Asylum-seekers sent back to 
countries
Germany considers safe often have trouble getting a fair hearing there, 
she
said.

Among the plaintiffs was Maryam Essa, an Iraqi who sought asylum in 
Germany
in 1993 after telling authorities that members of Saddam Hussein's Baath
party had killed her Christian parents for their beliefs and threatened 
her.

The government wants to deport her to Greece, the "safe country" from 
which
she arrived. Essa says Greece might expel her to Turkey, which in turn 
might
send her back to Iraq.

World War II unleashed a flood of refugees across Europe and beyond. 
German
leaders wrote the open-door policy on refugees into the 1949 constitution 
to
show they were sincere about making amends for Nazi crimes.

Germany became a beacon for hundreds of thousands of refugees from 
Soviet
bloc countries after the 1989 fall of the Berlin Wall, adding to a stream 
of
foreigners seeking sanctuary from war and persecution in Third World
countries.

Of the 6 million foreigners in Germany, about one-third are believed to 
be
refugees. They include Kurds from Iraq, Turkey and Iran and other people
>from  Algeria, Iraq, Iran, Sri Lanka, Russia and eastern Europe. About
350,000 Bosnians are allowed to stay under a special rule until their
country is safe enough for their return.

The asylum law was tightened in May 1993 by politicians desperate to 
curb
the xenophobia fueling neo-Nazi violence. That year, the number of
foreigners applying for asylum dropped 70 percent, to 127,937 compared 
to
438,191 in 1992.

Extreme-right attacks dropped by about half, to 1,489 in 1994 from 2,639 
in
1992. Figures for last year are expected to show another decrease.

Germany now grants asylum to about 9 percent of applicants.

The court upheld the law's controversial "safe third nation" rule for
refugees who enter Germany not from their homelands, but via a European
Union country or any other that Germany deems safe.

In practice, it means all refugees who enter Germany by land are
automatically sent back to the transit nations.

Pro-Asyl, a refugee rights group, says the practice has produced "chain
deportations" in which asylum-seekers are expelled from one nation after
another, sometimes ending up in the homelands they fled.

The group urged the government Tuesday to suspend this rule.

The court banned deportations of refugees to countries that might send 
them
back home without examining their cases. But it granted the German
government leeway in deciding each case.

Also upheld was a provision under which refugees whose homelands are 
deemed
free of persecution and who enter Germany by land can be sent home
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Germany bilked
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Germany continues to be bilked of millions by the international j*wish 
community, a never-ending saga of fraud, and a primary method of keeping 
the nation too weak to squeek. Mentioned also is the EU [Europen Union], 
a subdivision of the coming NWO with the Capitol in Jerusalem.

Date: Monday, 13-May-96 03:59 PM

>From  the May 10 issue of _The Germany_ (TWIG)

_Kinkel: Germany Accepts the Responsibility of Its History_

Intensifying the transatlantic dialogue between Europe and North America 
was the core issue Wednesday (May 8) as Foreign Minister Klaus Kinkel met 
with his Canadian and U.S. counterparts. In Ottowa, Kinkel and Foreign 
Minister
Lloyd Axworthy reportedly discussed their nations' engagement in Bosnia 
and opportunities for strengthening bilateral relations. Increasing 
cooperation within the Atlantic alliance was also a topic raised in 
Ottowa. To both Axworthy and, later in the day in Washington, U.S. 
Secretary of State Warren
Christopher, Kinkel conveyed the strong reservations Germany and its EU 
partners share about proposed U.S. trade sanctions against Cuba. 
Washington's efforts to intensify its economic isolation of Cuba, Kinkel 
warned, could provoke a trade war between the U.S. and Europe. Kinkel 
underscored the otherwise harmonious relations between Germany and the U.
S. in an address to the Assembly of the American Jewish Committee 
Wednesday evening in Washington on the 51st anniversary of Germany's 
surrender in World War II. Rejecting notions of collective guilt, Kinkel 
spoke of the German duty to accept responsibility for the past, to try to 
mitigate the suffering Germany caused during the Nazi era, and to make 
sure that memory of the Nazis' crimes remain alive. Through the end of 
1995, he noted, the Federal Republic has provided approximately DM 97 
billion (currently U.S. $62.6 billion) toward making restitution for the 
Holocaust. That sum, he
added, will rise to DM 124 billion ($80 billion) by the year 2030. 
Germany's commitment to maintaining close ties to Israel and to improving 
relations with its eastern neighbors likewise stems from an 
acknowledgement of its past, Kinkel said.  The lessons my country learned 
>from  the crimes of Nazism are as valid now as they were then: an 
unqualified commitment to freedom, democracy and human rights; European 
integration; a close, special relationship with Israel; and friendship 
with the United States.

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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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1994 ?? Los Angeles
SCROLLS REFER TO DEATH OF MESSIAH
Associated Press

Newly released text from the Dead Sea Scrolls mentions the execution of a 
Messiahlike leader, suggesting that some ancient j*ws shared the 
Christian concept of the slaying of a Messiah, scholars said yesterday.

One fragment contains 5 lines of text that describes a "leader of the 
community" being "put to death" and mentions "piercings" or "wouunds," 
said Robert EISENMAN, a professor of Middle East religions at Calif. St. 
University, Long Beach.

The text also uses Messiah-related terms such as "the staff, " "the 
branch of David" and the "Root of Jesse," he said. eisenman helped 
translate the scroll fragments.

Its language is close to that in the Old Testament Book of Isaiah, which 
says, "for our sins he was wounded." Many Christians use Isaiah's 
prophecies to aid their understanding of Jesus. Eisenman didn't know if 
the leader mentioned in the text was Jesus. He said the text has far 
reaching significance because it shows the scrolls' writers and early 
Christians shared similar Messianic ideas. He said the text supports his 
controversial theory that the most recent scrolls were written by j*ws 
who helped form early christianity. Many other scholars believe the 
scrolls were written by an ascetic j*wish cult called Essenes. "We've 
known for a long time there are connections between ideas contained in 
the scrolls and Christianity, however, this particular idea, that of a 
dying Messiah, is new and explosive, " said Michael WISE, a Univ. of 
Chicago professor of Aramaic, the language of Jesus.

Wise also helped translate the fragments. He said it was always thought 
that j*ws at the time of Jesus expected a Messiah who would restore 
Israel to dominance politically. yet the released text shows that the 
j*wish scroll writers had the idea of a Messiah who would suffer and die. 
"That shows this was not an idea unique to Christianity", he said, adding 
, "Anything which potentially impugns the uniqueness of the Christian 
message can be seen by some people as invalidating it or weakening it.

The scrolls contain the oldest known copies of the Old Testament and 
numerous other writings. Scholars believe they were written by a j*wish 
sect sometime between 200 BC and 50 AD. The 800 scrolls, most in 
fragments, were found in caves near the Dead Sea in the late 1940s and 
early '50s and  were stored in Jerusalem. They contain priceless 
information about the period that spawned Christianity. ACCESS TO THE 
SCROLLS WAS CONTROLLED BY JORDANIAN AND LATER ISRAELI AUSPICES FOR 40 
YEARS. Criticism was that the j*ws were afraid to release the information 
and restricted access to only j*wish scholars, who were sluggish , if not 
deceitful , in publishing translations.
The Huntington Library in San Marino broke the monopoly in September by 
giving qualified scholars free access to its 3,000 photographs of scroll 
fragments. Eisenman ws the first granted such access.

If the translation is correct, it "tightens the connection tremendously 
between the early Christians and the people who wrote the scrolls, said 
James Tabor, a Univ of No Carolina associate Prof. of Christian Origins 
and ancient Judaism. 

"I doubt if one would call it revolutionary" wrote Eugene Ulrich, chief 
editor of the scrolls and theology Prof.  of Notre Dame. He, too, had 
early access to the scrolls. Ulrich said it will be published soon and 
some text has already been offered in Madrid by  Emile Puesh, another 
editor.

Eisenman and Tabor said the scrolls could have been published years ago 
and now they want to play it down because it could damage traditional 
religious views. Ulrich denied the text has been withheld.


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The recent publication of Goldhagens book "Hitler's Willing Executioners..
." is contradicted by the recently purchased (rights) to the _Klemperer 
Journals_, painstakingly written over the Hitler years by a j*wish 
eyewitness:

>From  this week's (May 10) issue of _The Week in
Germany_ (TWIG), which can be found on the Internet at
,
 and :


_Aufbau Publishers Sell U.S. Translation Rights to Klemperer Journals for 
Record Sum_

One of Germany's most talked about recent bestsellers will soon be coming 
to bookstores in the United States. In 1935, Victor Klemperer (1881-1960) 
was forced from his position as a professor of Romance languages in 
Dresden because he was a Jew. He was shortly thereafter deprived of all 
access to the university library, making it impossible for him to carry 
on his scholarly work, so he devoted himself all the more intently to the 
journal he had maintained since 1897. Klemperer avoided deportation and 
the prospect of death in a concentration camp, but, even though he was 
married to a
gentile, he could not escape the civic disenfranchisement of the Jews 
under Nazi rule. The step-by-step exclusion of the Jews from German 
society and the indignities heaped upon them figure prominently in 
Klemperer's journal entries from the years 1933-1945, which were 
published last fall by the
Berlin-based Aufbau Verlag under the title Ich will Zeugnis ablegen bis 
zum letzten ( I Want to Give Witness to the End ). Aufbau announced 
Saturday (May 4) that it had sold the rights for a U.S. edition to Random 
House for approximately DM 840,000 (U.S. $542,000), a record sum for the 
translation
rights to a work originally published in German. Despite their formidable 
bulk (1,700 pages) the two volumes of Ich will Zeugnis ablegen bis zum 
letzten made it onto Germany's bestseller list last fall. The work 
stirred much discussion, in part because of Klemperer's eloquently 
precise detailing of the Third Reich's fundamental barbarism, in part 
because of his emphatic defense of Germany in the face of that barbarism. 
Klemperer, a veteran of the First World War and true-believing product of 
Germany's educational tradition in the humanities, insisted in his 
journal that the Nazis were an aberration, that they were the exact 
opposite of all that his Germany represented, something from an 
eyewitness which contradicts the new book by Goldhagen who blames all 
Germans, even little babies.








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Subject: revise those damn museums
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One to the right of me, one to the left of me, cha cha cha.
And now the biggie of them all.

_Holocaust Memorial Construction to Begin in 1999_

The cornerstone for Germany's planned national Holocaust memorial will 
be
laid on January 27, 1999, backers of the memorial and officials from 
Bonn
and Berlin announced April 24. January 27 was chosen, they explained,
because it was recently designated the national day of commemoration for
victims of Nazi persecution (cf. TWIG 1/26/96, p.1). What the memorial 
to
Jews murdered by the Nazis will look like is, however, still open to
question. Artist Christine Jakob-Marcks won the design competition for 
the
memorial with her proposal to build a huge tombstone-like structure
inscribed with the names of the Jews who died in the Holocaust, but many
supporters of the project, including Chancellor Kohl and his cabinet, 
voiced
reservations about her design (cf. TWIG 7/7/95,        p.6; 7/21/95, p.7).
 A
new choice is now to be made from the seven best submissions to the 
original
competition.






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Subject: Where are all the criminazis??
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It seems that for each alleged victim, they want one perpetrator. Note 
the terrible discrepency between the number prosecuted and the number 
convicted.

_Justice Minister: 5,570 Cases of Suspected Nazi Crimes Remain Open_

Fifty years after the end of the Second World War, a total of 5,570 cases 
in
which individuals are suspected of having committed crimes during the
National Socialist regime remain unresolved, Minister of Justice Edzard
Schmidt-Joertzig (FDP) announced in late February at the presentation of
Germany's first national compilation of statistics on the prosecution of
Nazi crimes. "The data show," Schmidt-Joertzig said, "that prosecutors 
still
take the task of bringing those responsible for the horrendous crimes of 
the
Hitler dictatorship to justice seriously." Germany has prosecuted 106,
178
persons since 1945; 6,494 were convicted.
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Subject: Court turns tide on asylum seekers
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In every country where they have acquired political savvy, j*ws have 
pushed for liberal immigration policies which dilute the area's culture, 
language and financial resources. Nowhere has this sabotage been more 
potent than in america and Germany. Now, a high court may be reversing 
that trend; but is it too late? We know why they did it to Germany; the 
question is, "Why are they doing it to the rest of the world?"

Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 11:04 PM

_Avoiding political storm, German high court backs tough asylum law_ 
(AP)

BONN, Germany (May 14, 1996 4:30 p.m. EDT) -- Germany's highest court 
upheld
on Tuesday a 1993 asylum law that dramatically curbed immigration and 
eased
politicians' fears of a resurgence of right-wing violence against
foreigners.

The Federal Constitutional Court rejected a series of challenges to the 
law
that had scrapped Germany's open-door policy for millions of displaced
people and gave authorities wide powers to turn asylum-seekers back to
neighboring countries.

The eight-judge panel ordered additional safeguards to ensure deported
refugees don't wind up back in a country where they risk persecution. 
But
activists involved in the asylum issue called the changes cosmetic and 
said
the court had failed to uphold refugees' human rights.

Chancellor Helmut Kohl said the ruling was "very helpful for the future.
"

The court, meeting at its seat in Karlsruhe, dismissed appeals by five
refugees who charged the asylum law was unconstitutional.

A spokeswoman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, Judith Kumin,
called the verdict "disappointing." Asylum-seekers sent back to 
countries
Germany considers safe often have trouble getting a fair hearing there, 
she
said.

Among the plaintiffs was Maryam Essa, an Iraqi who sought asylum in 
Germany
in 1993 after telling authorities that members of Saddam Hussein's Baath
party had killed her Christian parents for their beliefs and threatened 
her.

The government wants to deport her to Greece, the "safe country" from 
which
she arrived. Essa says Greece might expel her to Turkey, which in turn 
might
send her back to Iraq.

World War II unleashed a flood of refugees across Europe and beyond. 
German
leaders wrote the open-door policy on refugees into the 1949 constitution 
to
show they were sincere about making amends for Nazi crimes.

Germany became a beacon for hundreds of thousands of refugees from 
Soviet
bloc countries after the 1989 fall of the Berlin Wall, adding to a stream 
of
foreigners seeking sanctuary from war and persecution in Third World
countries.

Of the 6 million foreigners in Germany, about one-third are believed to 
be
refugees. They include Kurds from Iraq, Turkey and Iran and other people
>from  Algeria, Iraq, Iran, Sri Lanka, Russia and eastern Europe. About
350,000 Bosnians are allowed to stay under a special rule until their
country is safe enough for their return.

The asylum law was tightened in May 1993 by politicians desperate to 
curb
the xenophobia fueling neo-Nazi violence. That year, the number of
foreigners applying for asylum dropped 70 percent, to 127,937 compared 
to
438,191 in 1992.

Extreme-right attacks dropped by about half, to 1,489 in 1994 from 2,639 
in
1992. Figures for last year are expected to show another decrease.

Germany now grants asylum to about 9 percent of applicants.

The court upheld the law's controversial "safe third nation" rule for
refugees who enter Germany not from their homelands, but via a European
Union country or any other that Germany deems safe.

In practice, it means all refugees who enter Germany by land are
automatically sent back to the transit nations.

Pro-Asyl, a refugee rights group, says the practice has produced "chain
deportations" in which asylum-seekers are expelled from one nation after
another, sometimes ending up in the homelands they fled.

The group urged the government Tuesday to suspend this rule.

The court banned deportations of refugees to countries that might send 
them
back home without examining their cases. But it granted the German
government leeway in deciding each case.

Also upheld was a provision under which refugees whose homelands are 
deemed
free of persecution and who enter Germany by land can be sent home
immediately.








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Subject: Whit guys still being bilked
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Germany continues to be bilked of millions by the international j*wish 
community, a never-ending saga of fraud, and a primary method of keeping 
the nation too weak to squeek. Mentioned also is the EU [Europen Union], 
a subdivision of the coming NWO with the Capitol in Jerusalem.

Date: Monday, 13-May-96 03:59 PM

>From  the May 10 issue of _The Germany_ (TWIG)

_Kinkel: Germany Accepts the Responsibility of Its History_

Intensifying the transatlantic dialogue between Europe and North America 
was the core issue Wednesday (May 8) as Foreign Minister Klaus Kinkel met 
with his Canadian and U.S. counterparts. In Ottowa, Kinkel and Foreign 
Minister
Lloyd Axworthy reportedly discussed their nations' engagement in Bosnia 
and opportunities for strengthening bilateral relations. Increasing 
cooperation within the Atlantic alliance was also a topic raised in 
Ottowa. To both Axworthy and, later in the day in Washington, U.S. 
Secretary of State Warren
Christopher, Kinkel conveyed the strong reservations Germany and its EU 
partners share about proposed U.S. trade sanctions against Cuba. 
Washington's efforts to intensify its economic isolation of Cuba, Kinkel 
warned, could provoke a trade war between the U.S. and Europe. Kinkel 
underscored the otherwise harmonious relations between Germany and the U.
S. in an address to the Assembly of the American Jewish Committee 
Wednesday evening in Washington on the 51st anniversary of Germany's 
surrender in World War II. Rejecting notions of collective guilt, Kinkel 
spoke of the German duty to accept responsibility for the past, to try to 
mitigate the suffering Germany caused during the Nazi era, and to make 
sure that memory of the Nazis' crimes remain alive. Through the end of 
1995, he noted, the Federal Republic has provided approximately DM 97 
billion (currently U.S. $62.6 billion) toward making restitution for the 
Holocaust. That sum, he
added, will rise to DM 124 billion ($80 billion) by the year 2030. 
Germany's commitment to maintaining close ties to Israel and to improving 
relations with its eastern neighbors likewise stems from an 
acknowledgement of its past, Kinkel said.  The lessons my country learned 
>from  the crimes of Nazism are as valid now as they were then: an 
unqualified commitment to freedom, democracy and human rights; European 
integration; a close, special relationship with Israel; and friendship 
with the United States.

   -----







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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Israel afraid of White Man's Christ
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1994 ?? Los Angeles
SCROLLS REFER TO DEATH OF MESSIAH
Associated Press

Newly released text from the Dead Sea Scrolls mentions the execution of a 
Messiahlike leader, suggesting that some ancient j*ws shared the 
Christian concept of the slaying of a Messiah, scholars said yesterday.

One fragment contains 5 lines of text that describes a "leader of the 
community" being "put to death" and mentions "piercings" or "wouunds," 
said Robert EISENMAN, a professor of Middle East religions at Calif. St. 
University, Long Beach.

The text also uses Messiah-related terms such as "the staff, " "the 
branch of David" and the "Root of Jesse," he said. eisenman helped 
translate the scroll fragments.

Its language is close to that in the Old Testament Book of Isaiah, which 
says, "for our sins he was wounded." Many Christians use Isaiah's 
prophecies to aid their understanding of Jesus. Eisenman didn't know if 
the leader mentioned in the text was Jesus. He said the text has far 
reaching significance because it shows the scrolls' writers and early 
Christians shared similar Messianic ideas. He said the text supports his 
controversial theory that the most recent scrolls were written by j*ws 
who helped form early christianity. Many other scholars believe the 
scrolls were written by an ascetic j*wish cult called Essenes. "We've 
known for a long time there are connections between ideas contained in 
the scrolls and Christianity, however, this particular idea, that of a 
dying Messiah, is new and explosive, " said Michael WISE, a Univ. of 
Chicago professor of Aramaic, the language of Jesus.

Wise also helped translate the fragments. He said it was always thought 
that j*ws at the time of Jesus expected a Messiah who would restore 
Israel to dominance politically. yet the released text shows that the 
j*wish scroll writers had the idea of a Messiah who would suffer and die. 
"That shows this was not an idea unique to Christianity", he said, adding 
, "Anything which potentially impugns the uniqueness of the Christian 
message can be seen by some people as invalidating it or weakening it.

The scrolls contain the oldest known copies of the Old Testament and 
numerous other writings. Scholars believe they were written by a j*wish 
sect sometime between 200 BC and 50 AD. The 800 scrolls, most in 
fragments, were found in caves near the Dead Sea in the late 1940s and 
early '50s and  were stored in Jerusalem. They contain priceless 
information about the period that spawned Christianity. ACCESS TO THE 
SCROLLS WAS CONTROLLED BY JORDANIAN AND LATER ISRAELI AUSPICES FOR 40 
YEARS. Criticism was that the j*ws were afraid to release the information 
and restricted access to only j*wish scholars, who were sluggish , if not 
deceitful , in publishing translations.
The Huntington Library in San Marino broke the monopoly in September by 
giving qualified scholars free access to its 3,000 photographs of scroll 
fragments. Eisenman ws the first granted such access.

If the translation is correct, it "tightens the connection tremendously 
between the early Christians and the people who wrote the scrolls, said 
James Tabor, a Univ of No Carolina associate Prof. of Christian Origins 
and ancient Judaism. 

"I doubt if one would call it revolutionary" wrote Eugene Ulrich, chief 
editor of the scrolls and theology Prof.  of Notre Dame. He, too, had 
early access to the scrolls. Ulrich said it will be published soon and 
some text has already been offered in Madrid by  Emile Puesh, another 
editor.

Eisenman and Tabor said the scrolls could have been published years ago 
and now they want to play it down because it could damage traditional 
religious views. Ulrich denied the text has been withheld.






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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: GOLDHAGEN a liar: survivor's story
Date: 20 May 1996 12:13:38 GMT
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The recent publication of Goldhagens book "Hitler's Willing Executioners..
." is contradicted by the recently purchased (rights) to the _Klemperer 
Journals_, painstakingly written over the Hitler years by a j*wish 
eyewitness:

>From  this week's (May 10) issue of _The Week in
Germany_ (TWIG), which can be found on the Internet at
,
 and :


_Aufbau Publishers Sell U.S. Translation Rights to Klemperer Journals for 
Record Sum_

One of Germany's most talked about recent bestsellers will soon be coming 
to bookstores in the United States. In 1935, Victor Klemperer (1881-1960) 
was forced from his position as a professor of Romance languages in 
Dresden because he was a Jew. He was shortly thereafter deprived of all 
access to the university library, making it impossible for him to carry 
on his scholarly work, so he devoted himself all the more intently to the 
journal he had maintained since 1897. Klemperer avoided deportation and 
the prospect of death in a concentration camp, but, even though he was 
married to a
gentile, he could not escape the civic disenfranchisement of the Jews 
under Nazi rule. The step-by-step exclusion of the Jews from German 
society and the indignities heaped upon them figure prominently in 
Klemperer's journal entries from the years 1933-1945, which were 
published last fall by the
Berlin-based Aufbau Verlag under the title Ich will Zeugnis ablegen bis 
zum letzten ( I Want to Give Witness to the End ). Aufbau announced 
Saturday (May 4) that it had sold the rights for a U.S. edition to Random 
House for approximately DM 840,000 (U.S. $542,000), a record sum for the 
translation
rights to a work originally published in German. Despite their formidable 
bulk (1,700 pages) the two volumes of Ich will Zeugnis ablegen bis zum 
letzten made it onto Germany's bestseller list last fall. The work 
stirred much discussion, in part because of Klemperer's eloquently 
precise detailing of the Third Reich's fundamental barbarism, in part 
because of his emphatic defense of Germany in the face of that barbarism. 
Klemperer, a veteran of the First World War and true-believing product of 
Germany's educational tradition in the humanities, insisted in his 
journal that the Nazis were an aberration, that they were the exact 
opposite of all that his Germany represented, something from an 
eyewitness which contradicts the new book by Goldhagen who blames all 
Germans, even little babies.








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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: where are museums for white people??
Date: 21 May 1996 02:46:32 GMT
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One a day, like a plague.

_Holocaust Memorial Construction to Begin in 1999_

The cornerstone for Germany's planned national Holocaust memorial will 
be
laid on January 27, 1999, backers of the memorial and officials from 
Bonn
and Berlin announced April 24. January 27 was chosen, they explained,
because it was recently designated the national day of commemoration for
victims of Nazi persecution (cf. TWIG 1/26/96, p.1). What the memorial 
to
Jews murdered by the Nazis will look like is, however, still open to
question. Artist Christine Jakob-Marcks won the design competition for 
the
memorial with her proposal to build a huge tombstone-like structure
inscribed with the names of the Jews who died in the Holocaust, but many
supporters of the project, including Chancellor Kohl and his cabinet, 
voiced
reservations about her design (cf. TWIG 7/7/95,        p.6; 7/21/95, p.7).
 A
new choice is now to be made from the seven best submissions to the 
original
competition.






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Subject: j*ws looking for criminals....50 years
Date: 21 May 1996 02:47:14 GMT
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It seems that for each alleged victim, they want one perpetrator. Note 
the terrible discrepency between the number prosecuted and the number 
convicted.

_Justice Minister: 5,570 Cases of Suspected Nazi Crimes Remain Open_

Fifty years after the end of the Second World War, a total of 5,570 cases 
in
which individuals are suspected of having committed crimes during the
National Socialist regime remain unresolved, Minister of Justice Edzard
Schmidt-Joertzig (FDP) announced in late February at the presentation of
Germany's first national compilation of statistics on the prosecution of
Nazi crimes. "The data show," Schmidt-Joertzig said, "that prosecutors 
still
take the task of bringing those responsible for the horrendous crimes of 
the
Hitler dictatorship to justice seriously." Germany has prosecuted 106,
178
persons since 1945; 6,494 were convicted.
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Germany still kowtows to j*ws
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In every country where they have acquired political savvy, j*ws have 
pushed for liberal immigration policies which dilute the area's culture, 
language and financial resources. Nowhere has this sabotage been more 
potent than in america and Germany. Now, a high court may be reversing 
that trend; but is it too late?

Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 11:04 PM

_Avoiding political storm, German high court backs tough asylum law_ 
(AP)

BONN, Germany (May 14, 1996 4:30 p.m. EDT) -- Germany's highest court 
upheld
on Tuesday a 1993 asylum law that dramatically curbed immigration and 
eased
politicians' fears of a resurgence of right-wing violence against
foreigners.

The Federal Constitutional Court rejected a series of challenges to the 
law
that had scrapped Germany's open-door policy for millions of displaced
people and gave authorities wide powers to turn asylum-seekers back to
neighboring countries.

The eight-judge panel ordered additional safeguards to ensure deported
refugees don't wind up back in a country where they risk persecution. 
But
activists involved in the asylum issue called the changes cosmetic and 
said
the court had failed to uphold refugees' human rights.

Chancellor Helmut Kohl said the ruling was "very helpful for the future.
"

The court, meeting at its seat in Karlsruhe, dismissed appeals by five
refugees who charged the asylum law was unconstitutional.

A spokeswoman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, Judith Kumin,
called the verdict "disappointing." Asylum-seekers sent back to 
countries
Germany considers safe often have trouble getting a fair hearing there, 
she
said.

Among the plaintiffs was Maryam Essa, an Iraqi who sought asylum in 
Germany
in 1993 after telling authorities that members of Saddam Hussein's Baath
party had killed her Christian parents for their beliefs and threatened 
her.

The government wants to deport her to Greece, the "safe country" from 
which
she arrived. Essa says Greece might expel her to Turkey, which in turn 
might
send her back to Iraq.

World War II unleashed a flood of refugees across Europe and beyond. 
German
leaders wrote the open-door policy on refugees into the 1949 constitution 
to
show they were sincere about making amends for Nazi crimes.

Germany became a beacon for hundreds of thousands of refugees from 
Soviet
bloc countries after the 1989 fall of the Berlin Wall, adding to a stream 
of
foreigners seeking sanctuary from war and persecution in Third World
countries.

Of the 6 million foreigners in Germany, about one-third are believed to 
be
refugees. They include Kurds from Iraq, Turkey and Iran and other people
>from  Algeria, Iraq, Iran, Sri Lanka, Russia and eastern Europe. About
350,000 Bosnians are allowed to stay under a special rule until their
country is safe enough for their return.

The asylum law was tightened in May 1993 by politicians desperate to 
curb
the xenophobia fueling neo-Nazi violence. That year, the number of
foreigners applying for asylum dropped 70 percent, to 127,937 compared 
to
438,191 in 1992.

Extreme-right attacks dropped by about half, to 1,489 in 1994 from 2,639 
in
1992. Figures for last year are expected to show another decrease.

Germany now grants asylum to about 9 percent of applicants.

The court upheld the law's controversial "safe third nation" rule for
refugees who enter Germany not from their homelands, but via a European
Union country or any other that Germany deems safe.

In practice, it means all refugees who enter Germany by land are
automatically sent back to the transit nations.

Pro-Asyl, a refugee rights group, says the practice has produced "chain
deportations" in which asylum-seekers are expelled from one nation after
another, sometimes ending up in the homelands they fled.

The group urged the government Tuesday to suspend this rule.

The court banned deportations of refugees to countries that might send 
them
back home without examining their cases. But it granted the German
government leeway in deciding each case.

Also upheld was a provision under which refugees whose homelands are 
deemed
free of persecution and who enter Germany by land can be sent home
immediately.








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Germany continues to be bilked of millions by the international j*wish 
community, a never-ending saga of fraud, and a primary method of keeping 
the nation too weak to squeek. Mentioned also is the EU [Europen Union], 
a subdivision of the coming NWO with the Capitol in Jerusalem.

Date: Monday, 13-May-96 03:59 PM

>From  the May 10 issue of _The Germany_ (TWIG)

_Kinkel: Germany Accepts the Responsibility of Its History_

Intensifying the transatlantic dialogue between Europe and North America 
was the core issue Wednesday (May 8) as Foreign Minister Klaus Kinkel met 
with his Canadian and U.S. counterparts. In Ottowa, Kinkel and Foreign 
Minister
Lloyd Axworthy reportedly discussed their nations' engagement in Bosnia 
and opportunities for strengthening bilateral relations. Increasing 
cooperation within the Atlantic alliance was also a topic raised in 
Ottowa. To both Axworthy and, later in the day in Washington, U.S. 
Secretary of State Warren
Christopher, Kinkel conveyed the strong reservations Germany and its EU 
partners share about proposed U.S. trade sanctions against Cuba. 
Washington's efforts to intensify its economic isolation of Cuba, Kinkel 
warned, could provoke a trade war between the U.S. and Europe. Kinkel 
underscored the otherwise harmonious relations between Germany and the U.
S. in an address to the Assembly of the American Jewish Committee 
Wednesday evening in Washington on the 51st anniversary of Germany's 
surrender in World War II. Rejecting notions of collective guilt, Kinkel 
spoke of the German duty to accept responsibility for the past, to try to 
mitigate the suffering Germany caused during the Nazi era, and to make 
sure that memory of the Nazis' crimes remain alive. Through the end of 
1995, he noted, the Federal Republic has provided approximately DM 97 
billion (currently U.S. $62.6 billion) toward making restitution for the 
Holocaust. That sum, he
added, will rise to DM 124 billion ($80 billion) by the year 2030. 
Germany's commitment to maintaining close ties to Israel and to improving 
relations with its eastern neighbors likewise stems from an 
acknowledgement of its past, Kinkel said.  The lessons my country learned 
>from  the crimes of Nazism are as valid now as they were then: an 
unqualified commitment to freedom, democracy and human rights; European 
integration; a close, special relationship with Israel; and friendship 
with the United States.

   -----







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Subject: 'Eyewitness' contradicts GOLDHAGEN
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The recent publication of Goldhagens book "Hitler's Willing Executioners..
." is contradicted by the recently purchased (rights) to the _Klemperer 
Journals_, painstakingly written over the Hitler years by a j*wish 
eyewitness:

>From  this week's (May 10) issue of _The Week in
Germany_ (TWIG), which can be found on the Internet at
,
 and :


_Aufbau Publishers Sell U.S. Translation Rights to Klemperer Journals for 
Record Sum_

One of Germany's most talked about recent bestsellers will soon be coming 
to bookstores in the United States. In 1935, Victor Klemperer (1881-1960) 
was forced from his position as a professor of Romance languages in 
Dresden because he was a Jew. He was shortly thereafter deprived of all 
access to the university library, making it impossible for him to carry 
on his scholarly work, so he devoted himself all the more intently to the 
journal he had maintained since 1897. Klemperer avoided deportation and 
the prospect of death in a concentration camp, but, even though he was 
married to a
gentile, he could not escape the civic disenfranchisement of the Jews 
under Nazi rule. The step-by-step exclusion of the Jews from German 
society and the indignities heaped upon them figure prominently in 
Klemperer's journal entries from the years 1933-1945, which were 
published last fall by the
Berlin-based Aufbau Verlag under the title Ich will Zeugnis ablegen bis 
zum letzten ( I Want to Give Witness to the End ). Aufbau announced 
Saturday (May 4) that it had sold the rights for a U.S. edition to Random 
House for approximately DM 840,000 (U.S. $542,000), a record sum for the 
translation
rights to a work originally published in German. Despite their formidable 
bulk (1,700 pages) the two volumes of Ich will Zeugnis ablegen bis zum 
letzten made it onto Germany's bestseller list last fall. The work 
stirred much discussion, in part because of Klemperer's eloquently 
precise detailing of the Third Reich's fundamental barbarism, in part 
because of his emphatic defense of Germany in the face of that barbarism. 
Klemperer, a veteran of the First World War and true-believing product of 
Germany's educational tradition in the humanities, insisted in his 
journal that the Nazis were an aberration, that they were the exact 
opposite of all that his Germany represented, something from an 
eyewitness which contradicts the new book by Goldhagen who blames all 
Germans, even little babies.








From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 23 00:37:59 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Israel scams DS Scrolls
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1994 ?? Los Angeles
SCROLLS REFER TO DEATH OF MESSIAH
Associated Press

Newly released text from the Dead Sea Scrolls mentions the execution of a 
Messiahlike leader, suggesting that some ancient j*ws shared the 
Christian concept of the slaying of a Messiah, scholars said yesterday.

One fragment contains 5 lines of text that describes a "leader of the 
community" being "put to death" and mentions "piercings" or "wouunds," 
said Robert EISENMAN, a professor of Middle East religions at Calif. St. 
University, Long Beach.

The text also uses Messiah-related terms such as "the staff, " "the 
branch of David" and the "Root of Jesse," he said. eisenman helped 
translate the scroll fragments.

Its language is close to that in the Old Testament Book of Isaiah, which 
says, "for our sins he was wounded." Many Christians use Isaiah's 
prophecies to aid their understanding of Jesus. Eisenman didn't know if 
the leader mentioned in the text was Jesus. He said the text has far 
reaching significance because it shows the scrolls' writers and early 
Christians shared similar Messianic ideas. He said the text supports his 
controversial theory that the most recent scrolls were written by j*ws 
who helped form early christianity. Many other scholars believe the 
scrolls were written by an ascetic j*wish cult called Essenes. "We've 
known for a long time there are connections between ideas contained in 
the scrolls and Christianity, however, this particular idea, that of a 
dying Messiah, is new and explosive, " said Michael WISE, a Univ. of 
Chicago professor of Aramaic, the language of Jesus.

Wise also helped translate the fragments. He said it was always thought 
that j*ws at the time of Jesus expected a Messiah who would restore 
Israel to dominance politically. yet the released text shows that the 
j*wish scroll writers had the idea of a Messiah who would suffer and die. 
"That shows this was not an idea unique to Christianity", he said, adding 
, "Anything which potentially impugns the uniqueness of the Christian 
message can be seen by some people as invalidating it or weakening it.

The scrolls contain the oldest known copies of the Old Testament and 
numerous other writings. Scholars believe they were written by a j*wish 
sect sometime between 200 BC and 50 AD. The 800 scrolls, most in 
fragments, were found in caves near the Dead Sea in the late 1940s and 
early '50s and  were stored in Jerusalem. They contain priceless 
information about the period that spawned Christianity. ACCESS TO THE 
SCROLLS WAS CONTROLLED BY JORDANIAN AND LATER ISRAELI AUSPICES FOR 40 
YEARS. Criticism was that the j*ws were afraid to release the information 
and restricted access to only j*wish scholars, who were sluggish , if not 
deceitful , in publishing translations.
The Huntington Library in San Marino broke the monopoly in September by 
giving qualified scholars free access to its 3,000 photographs of scroll 
fragments. Eisenman ws the first granted such access.

If the translation is correct, it "tightens the connection tremendously 
between the early Christians and the people who wrote the scrolls, said 
James Tabor, a Univ of No Carolina associate Prof. of Christian Origins 
and ancient Judaism. 

"I doubt if one would call it revolutionary" wrote Eugene Ulrich, chief 
editor of the scrolls and theology Prof.  of Notre Dame. He, too, had 
early access to the scrolls. Ulrich said it will be published soon and 
some text has already been offered in Madrid by  Emile Puesh, another 
editor.

Eisenman and Tabor said the scrolls could have been published years ago 
and now they want to play it down because it could damage traditional 
religious views. Ulrich denied the text has been withheld.






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It seems that for each alleged victim, they want one perpetrator. Note 
the terrible discrepency between the number prosecuted and the number 
convicted.

_Justice Minister: 5,570 Cases of Suspected Nazi Crimes Remain Open_

Fifty years after the end of the Second World War, a total of 5,570 cases 
in
which individuals are suspected of having committed crimes during the
National Socialist regime remain unresolved, Minister of Justice Edzard
Schmidt-Joertzig (FDP) announced in late February at the presentation of
Germany's first national compilation of statistics on the prosecution of
Nazi crimes. "The data show," Schmidt-Joertzig said, "that prosecutors 
still
take the task of bringing those responsible for the horrendous crimes of 
the
Hitler dictatorship to justice seriously." Germany has prosecuted 106,
178
persons since 1945; 6,494 were convicted.
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Date: 21 May 1996 02:39:39 GMT
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Tuesday, 07-May-96 12:47 AM

From: Anton                    \ Internet:    (anton88@cris.com)

The following articles appeared in this week's issue (5/3/96) of _The
Week In Germany_ (http://www.germany-info.org/whats-new/):

_Extreme Right Is Using the Internet, Government Reports_

According to a statement by the federal government Tuesday (April 30),
right-wing extremists are increasingly turning to the Internet to 
transmit
propaganda materials produced in other countries to Germany. Extreme
right-wing networking appears to concentrate on the use of electronic
"mailboxes," the government said. Germany's domestic intelligence 
service
has identified twelve mailboxes in the country connected to the Thule
network (Thule-Netz), an international meeting place on the Internet of
members of extremist right-wing groups, and also found mailboxes 
connected
to the Thule network in Norway, Austria and the Netherlands.

       The dissemination of certain types of materials and symbols is 
banned
under German law. At government request, Deutsche Telekom recently 
blocked
access through its network to a site operated by Ernst Zuendel, a
German-born Canadian neo-Nazi (cf. TWIG 2/2/96, p.6). A German 
investigation
forced CompuServe to block worldwide access to some Internet sites that 
were
believed to violate German child-pornography law. The conflict was 
resolved
when the company produced software restricting access to those sites in
Germany (cf. TWIG 1/5/96, p.5; 2/16/96, p.4).
===================================================





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_Holocaust Memorial Construction to Begin in 1999_

The cornerstone for Germany's planned national Holocaust memorial will 
be
laid on January 27, 1999, backers of the memorial and officials from 
Bonn
and Berlin announced April 24. January 27 was chosen, they explained,
because it was recently designated the national day of commemoration for
victims of Nazi persecution (cf. TWIG 1/26/96, p.1). What the memorial 
to
Jews murdered by the Nazis will look like is, however, still open to
question. Artist Christine Jakob-Marcks won the design competition for 
the
memorial with her proposal to build a huge tombstone-like structure
inscribed with the names of the Jews who died in the Holocaust, but many
supporters of the project, including Chancellor Kohl and his cabinet, 
voiced
reservations about her design (cf. TWIG 7/7/95,   p.6; 7/21/95, p.7). A
new choice is now to be made from the seven best submissions to the 
original competition.






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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: j*w censors getting headache in Germany
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Date: Tuesday, 07-May-96 12:47 AM

From: Anton                    \ Internet:    (anton88@cris.com)

The following articles appeared in this week's issue (5/3/96) of _The
Week In Germany_ (http://www.germany-info.org/whats-new/):

_Extreme Right Is Using the Internet, Government Reports_

According to a statement by the federal government Tuesday (April 30),
right-wing extremists are increasingly turning to the Internet to 
transmit
propaganda materials produced in other countries to Germany. Extreme
right-wing networking appears to concentrate on the use of electronic
"mailboxes," the government said. Germany's domestic intelligence 
service
has identified twelve mailboxes in the country connected to the Thule
network (Thule-Netz), an international meeting place on the Internet of
members of extremist right-wing groups, and also found mailboxes 
connected
to the Thule network in Norway, Austria and the Netherlands.

       The dissemination of certain types of materials and symbols is 
banned
under German law. At government request, Deutsche Telekom recently 
blocked
access through its network to a site operated by Ernst Zuendel, a
German-born Canadian neo-Nazi (cf. TWIG 2/2/96, p.6). A German 
investigation
forced CompuServe to block worldwide access to some Internet sites that 
were
believed to violate German child-pornography law. The conflict was 
resolved
when the company produced software restricting access to those sites in
Germany (cf. TWIG 1/5/96, p.5; 2/16/96, p.4).
===================================================





From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu May 23 08:01:57 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: court denies asylum
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In every country where they have acquired political savvy, j*ws have 
pushed for liberal immigration policies which dilute the area's culture, 
language and financial resources. Nowhere has this sabotage been more 
potent than in america and Germany. Now, a high court may be reversing 
that trend; but is it too late?

Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 11:04 PM

_Avoiding political storm, German high court backs tough asylum law_ 
(AP)

BONN, Germany (May 14, 1996 4:30 p.m. EDT) -- Germany's highest court 
upheld
on Tuesday a 1993 asylum law that dramatically curbed immigration and 
eased
politicians' fears of a resurgence of right-wing violence against
foreigners.

The Federal Constitutional Court rejected a series of challenges to the 
law
that had scrapped Germany's open-door policy for millions of displaced
people and gave authorities wide powers to turn asylum-seekers back to
neighboring countries.

The eight-judge panel ordered additional safeguards to ensure deported
refugees don't wind up back in a country where they risk persecution. 
But
activists involved in the asylum issue called the changes cosmetic and 
said
the court had failed to uphold refugees' human rights.

Chancellor Helmut Kohl said the ruling was "very helpful for the future.
"

The court, meeting at its seat in Karlsruhe, dismissed appeals by five
refugees who charged the asylum law was unconstitutional.

A spokeswoman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, Judith Kumin,
called the verdict "disappointing." Asylum-seekers sent back to 
countries
Germany considers safe often have trouble getting a fair hearing there, 
she
said.

Among the plaintiffs was Maryam Essa, an Iraqi who sought asylum in 
Germany
in 1993 after telling authorities that members of Saddam Hussein's Baath
party had killed her Christian parents for their beliefs and threatened 
her.

The government wants to deport her to Greece, the "safe country" from 
which
she arrived. Essa says Greece might expel her to Turkey, which in turn 
might
send her back to Iraq.

World War II unleashed a flood of refugees across Europe and beyond. 
German
leaders wrote the open-door policy on refugees into the 1949 constitution 
to
show they were sincere about making amends for Nazi crimes.

Germany became a beacon for hundreds of thousands of refugees from 
Soviet
bloc countries after the 1989 fall of the Berlin Wall, adding to a stream 
of
foreigners seeking sanctuary from war and persecution in Third World
countries.

Of the 6 million foreigners in Germany, about one-third are believed to 
be
refugees. They include Kurds from Iraq, Turkey and Iran and other people
>from  Algeria, Iraq, Iran, Sri Lanka, Russia and eastern Europe. About
350,000 Bosnians are allowed to stay under a special rule until their
country is safe enough for their return.

The asylum law was tightened in May 1993 by politicians desperate to 
curb
the xenophobia fueling neo-Nazi violence. That year, the number of
foreigners applying for asylum dropped 70 percent, to 127,937 compared 
to
438,191 in 1992.

Extreme-right attacks dropped by about half, to 1,489 in 1994 from 2,639 
in
1992. Figures for last year are expected to show another decrease.

Germany now grants asylum to about 9 percent of applicants.

The court upheld the law's controversial "safe third nation" rule for
refugees who enter Germany not from their homelands, but via a European
Union country or any other that Germany deems safe.

In practice, it means all refugees who enter Germany by land are
automatically sent back to the transit nations.

Pro-Asyl, a refugee rights group, says the practice has produced "chain
deportations" in which asylum-seekers are expelled from one nation after
another, sometimes ending up in the homelands they fled.

The group urged the government Tuesday to suspend this rule.

The court banned deportations of refugees to countries that might send 
them
back home without examining their cases. But it granted the German
government leeway in deciding each case.

Also upheld was a provision under which refugees whose homelands are 
deemed
free of persecution and who enter Germany by land can be sent home
immediately.








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Germany continues to be bilked of millions by the international j*wish 
community, a never-ending saga of fraud, and a primary method of keeping 
the nation too weak to squeek. Mentioned also is the EU [Europen Union], 
a subdivision of the coming NWO with the Capitol in Jerusalem.

Date: Monday, 13-May-96 03:59 PM

>From  the May 10 issue of _The Germany_ (TWIG)

_Kinkel: Germany Accepts the Responsibility of Its History_

Intensifying the transatlantic dialogue between Europe and North America 
was the core issue Wednesday (May 8) as Foreign Minister Klaus Kinkel met 
with his Canadian and U.S. counterparts. In Ottowa, Kinkel and Foreign 
Minister
Lloyd Axworthy reportedly discussed their nations' engagement in Bosnia 
and opportunities for strengthening bilateral relations. Increasing 
cooperation within the Atlantic alliance was also a topic raised in 
Ottowa. To both Axworthy and, later in the day in Washington, U.S. 
Secretary of State Warren
Christopher, Kinkel conveyed the strong reservations Germany and its EU 
partners share about proposed U.S. trade sanctions against Cuba. 
Washington's efforts to intensify its economic isolation of Cuba, Kinkel 
warned, could provoke a trade war between the U.S. and Europe. Kinkel 
underscored the otherwise harmonious relations between Germany and the U.
S. in an address to the Assembly of the American Jewish Committee 
Wednesday evening in Washington on the 51st anniversary of Germany's 
surrender in World War II. Rejecting notions of collective guilt, Kinkel 
spoke of the German duty to accept responsibility for the past, to try to 
mitigate the suffering Germany caused during the Nazi era, and to make 
sure that memory of the Nazis' crimes remain alive. Through the end of 
1995, he noted, the Federal Republic has provided approximately DM 97 
billion (currently U.S. $62.6 billion) toward making restitution for the 
Holocaust. That sum, he
added, will rise to DM 124 billion ($80 billion) by the year 2030. 
Germany's commitment to maintaining close ties to Israel and to improving 
relations with its eastern neighbors likewise stems from an 
acknowledgement of its past, Kinkel said.  The lessons my country learned 
>from  the crimes of Nazism are as valid now as they were then: an 
unqualified commitment to freedom, democracy and human rights; European 
integration; a close, special relationship with Israel; and friendship 
with the United States.

   -----







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1994 ?? Los Angeles
SCROLLS REFER TO DEATH OF MESSIAH
Associated Press

Newly released text from the Dead Sea Scrolls mentions the execution of a 
Messiahlike leader, suggesting that some ancient j*ws shared the 
Christian concept of the slaying of a Messiah, scholars said yesterday.

One fragment contains 5 lines of text that describes a "leader of the 
community" being "put to death" and mentions "piercings" or "wouunds," 
said Robert EISENMAN, a professor of Middle East religions at Calif. St. 
University, Long Beach.

The text also uses Messiah-related terms such as "the staff, " "the 
branch of David" and the "Root of Jesse," he said. eisenman helped 
translate the scroll fragments.

Its language is close to that in the Old Testament Book of Isaiah, which 
says, "for our sins he was wounded." Many Christians use Isaiah's 
prophecies to aid their understanding of Jesus. Eisenman didn't know if 
the leader mentioned in the text was Jesus. He said the text has far 
reaching significance because it shows the scrolls' writers and early 
Christians shared similar Messianic ideas. He said the text supports his 
controversial theory that the most recent scrolls were written by j*ws 
who helped form early christianity. Many other scholars believe the 
scrolls were written by an ascetic j*wish cult called Essenes. "We've 
known for a long time there are connections between ideas contained in 
the scrolls and Christianity, however, this particular idea, that of a 
dying Messiah, is new and explosive, " said Michael WISE, a Univ. of 
Chicago professor of Aramaic, the language of Jesus.

Wise also helped translate the fragments. He said it was always thought 
that j*ws at the time of Jesus expected a Messiah who would restore 
Israel to dominance politically. yet the released text shows that the 
j*wish scroll writers had the idea of a Messiah who would suffer and die. 
"That shows this was not an idea unique to Christianity", he said, adding 
, "Anything which potentially impugns the uniqueness of the Christian 
message can be seen by some people as invalidating it or weakening it.

The scrolls contain the oldest known copies of the Old Testament and 
numerous other writings. Scholars believe they were written by a j*wish 
sect sometime between 200 BC and 50 AD. The 800 scrolls, most in 
fragments, were found in caves near the Dead Sea in the late 1940s and 
early '50s and  were stored in Jerusalem. They contain priceless 
information about the period that spawned Christianity. ACCESS TO THE 
SCROLLS WAS CONTROLLED BY JORDANIAN AND LATER ISRAELI AUSPICES FOR 40 
YEARS. Criticism was that the j*ws were afraid to release the information 
and restricted access to only j*wish scholars, who were sluggish , if not 
deceitful , in publishing translations.
The Huntington Library in San Marino broke the monopoly in September by 
giving qualified scholars free access to its 3,000 photographs of scroll 
fragments. Eisenman ws the first granted such access.

If the translation is correct, it "tightens the connection tremendously 
between the early Christians and the people who wrote the scrolls, said 
James Tabor, a Univ of No Carolina associate Prof. of Christian Origins 
and ancient Judaism. 

"I doubt if one would call it revolutionary" wrote Eugene Ulrich, chief 
editor of the scrolls and theology Prof.  of Notre Dame. He, too, had 
early access to the scrolls. Ulrich said it will be published soon and 
some text has already been offered in Madrid by  Emile Puesh, another 
editor.

Eisenman and Tabor said the scrolls could have been published years ago 
and now they want to play it down because it could damage traditional 
religious views. Ulrich denied the text has been withheld.






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The recent publication of Goldhagens book "Hitler's Willing Executioners..
." is contradicted by the recently purchased (rights) to the _Klemperer 
Journals_, painstakingly written over the Hitler years by a j*wish 
eyewitness:

>From  this week's (May 10) issue of _The Week in
Germany_ (TWIG), which can be found on the Internet at
,
 and :


_Aufbau Publishers Sell U.S. Translation Rights to Klemperer Journals for 
Record Sum_

One of Germany's most talked about recent bestsellers will soon be coming 
to bookstores in the United States. In 1935, Victor Klemperer (1881-1960) 
was forced from his position as a professor of Romance languages in 
Dresden because he was a Jew. He was shortly thereafter deprived of all 
access to the university library, making it impossible for him to carry 
on his scholarly work, so he devoted himself all the more intently to the 
journal he had maintained since 1897. Klemperer avoided deportation and 
the prospect of death in a concentration camp, but, even though he was 
married to a
gentile, he could not escape the civic disenfranchisement of the Jews 
under Nazi rule. The step-by-step exclusion of the Jews from German 
society and the indignities heaped upon them figure prominently in 
Klemperer's journal entries from the years 1933-1945, which were 
published last fall by the
Berlin-based Aufbau Verlag under the title Ich will Zeugnis ablegen bis 
zum letzten ( I Want to Give Witness to the End ). Aufbau announced 
Saturday (May 4) that it had sold the rights for a U.S. edition to Random 
House for approximately DM 840,000 (U.S. $542,000), a record sum for the 
translation
rights to a work originally published in German. Despite their formidable 
bulk (1,700 pages) the two volumes of Ich will Zeugnis ablegen bis zum 
letzten made it onto Germany's bestseller list last fall. The work 
stirred much discussion, in part because of Klemperer's eloquently 
precise detailing of the Third Reich's fundamental barbarism, in part 
because of his emphatic defense of Germany in the face of that barbarism. 
Klemperer, a veteran of the First World War and true-believing product of 
Germany's educational tradition in the humanities, insisted in his 
journal that the Nazis were an aberration, that they were the exact 
opposite of all that his Germany represented, something from an 
eyewitness which contradicts the new book by Goldhagen who blames all 
Germans, even little babies.








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From: Anton                    \ Internet:    (anton88@cris.com)

The following articles appeared in this week's issue (5/3/96) of _The
Week In Germany_ (http://www.germany-info.org/whats-new/):

_Extreme Right Is Using the Internet, Government Reports_

According to a statement by the federal government Tuesday (April 30),
right-wing extremists are increasingly turning to the Internet to 
transmit
propaganda materials produced in other countries to Germany. Extreme
right-wing networking appears to concentrate on the use of electronic
"mailboxes," the government said. Germany's domestic intelligence 
service
has identified twelve mailboxes in the country connected to the Thule
network (Thule-Netz), an international meeting place on the Internet of
members of extremist right-wing groups, and also found mailboxes 
connected
to the Thule network in Norway, Austria and the Netherlands.

       The dissemination of certain types of materials and symbols is 
banned
under German law. At government request, Deutsche Telekom recently 
blocked
access through its network to a site operated by Ernst Zuendel, a
German-born Canadian neo-Nazi (cf. TWIG 2/2/96, p.6). A German 
investigation
forced CompuServe to block worldwide access to some Internet sites that 
were
believed to violate German child-pornography law. The conflict was 
resolved
when the company produced software restricting access to those sites in
Germany (cf. TWIG 1/5/96, p.5; 2/16/96, p.4).
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At the rate of one-a-day, these things are taking up lots of 
environmental space. What'cha gonna do??


_Holocaust Memorial Construction to Begin in 1999_

The cornerstone for Germany's planned national Holocaust memorial will 
be
laid on January 27, 1999, backers of the memorial and officials from 
Bonn
and Berlin announced April 24. January 27 was chosen, they explained,
because it was recently designated the national day of commemoration for
victims of Nazi persecution (cf. TWIG 1/26/96, p.1). What the memorial 
to
Jews murdered by the Nazis will look like is, however, still open to
question. Artist Christine Jakob-Marcks won the design competition for 
the
memorial with her proposal to build a huge tombstone-like structure
inscribed with the names of the Jews who died in the Holocaust, but many
supporters of the project, including Chancellor Kohl and his cabinet, 
voiced
reservations about her design (cf. TWIG 7/7/95,        p.6; 7/21/95, p.7).
 A
new choice is now to be made from the seven best submissions to the 
original
competition.






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It seems that for each alleged victim, they want one perpetrator. Note 
the terrible discrepency between the number prosecuted and the number 
convicted.

_Justice Minister: 5,570 Cases of Suspected Nazi Crimes Remain Open_

Fifty years after the end of the Second World War, a total of 5,570 cases 
in
which individuals are suspected of having committed crimes during the
National Socialist regime remain unresolved, Minister of Justice Edzard
Schmidt-Joertzig (FDP) announced in late February at the presentation of
Germany's first national compilation of statistics on the prosecution of
Nazi crimes. "The data show," Schmidt-Joertzig said, "that prosecutors 
still
take the task of bringing those responsible for the horrendous crimes of 
the
Hitler dictatorship to justice seriously." Germany has prosecuted 106,
178
persons since 1945; 6,494 were convicted.
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4/18/96		#764
Subject: World War III

Israel has unleashed a Holocaust, heretofore unknown to mankind, against 
the innocent people of Lebanon. Cities are being razed, thousands of 
bodies lie murdered beneath the rubble. The horsemen of the Apocalypse 
are afield.

Except for the tears in my eyes, I would have chuckled: here is President 
Clinton at a newsbrief, somber-faced, explaining how he is trying to 
negotiate an end to the events unfolding today. What utter contempt he 
has for the American people! He's the very SON-OF-A-BITCH who armed the 
perpetrators.

For the record, the Lebanese are not war-like people. Abandoned by 
America, disarmed by Israel, they don't have the physical wherewithall to 
cope with Israeli's enemy Hezbola. In years past, Israel demonstrated her 
ability to invade a sovereign country, street by street, building by 
building, room by room to evicerate the terrorists. She did it then; she 
can do it now.

Instead, the j*ws have elected to destroy an innocent people, children, 
men, and women, with a venom and carnage strange to civilized beings. 
There must needs be an end to it.

The Regan years fade into memory, and with them also the cognizance of 
what was familiarly called the USSR. Youngsters today have no clue as to 
the power and awesomeness which once kept the world's status-quo in 
balance. Perchance one hears a murmer of Bosnia, so far away, and more 
recently, mention of some place called Chechnia. What does it all mean? 
But tucked away in the hills of the now-dismantled Soviet Union are 
people of rich and mixed backgrounds. There are those of Slavic blood who 
are Muslims; there are those of Semitic blood who are Christians ( no 
thanks to the Ottomans). 

But something else, also faded into memory, is tucked away in those hills 
and cities: TEN THOUSAND KNOWN NUCLEAR WARHEADS, each perched 
precipitously atop a viable rocketry device.

We here at the Hohenhausen Guild pray for the end of the slaughter, and 
ask, nay, beseech, the Russian Brothers of the Lebanese peoples to 
deliver their hardware to its natural destinations:
	Tel-Aviv
	Haifa
	Yafo
	Ramla
	Beersheba
	Gaza
	Ashdod
	Nazareth
	Hadera
	Hebron	
	Akko
	Ashqelon
	Nablus
	Netanya and 
	Tiberias
that the world can once again be pure.

May G*d have mercy on our souls.

-Sandra




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Date: Thursday, 02-May-96 09:55 PM

FIRE AND SWORD IN THE LEBANON
by
Eric Margolis  April 22 1996 [The Toronto Sun]

In 1982, when Israel invaded Lebanon, there was no Hizbullah. The 
guerillas
who today bedevil Israel, and have provoked Israel's latest, massive 
assault
against Lebanon, didn't exist.   

Soon after the 1982 invasion, I was with the Israeli Army  in southern
Lebanon, a rough, hilly region  known as `Fatahland,' after the 
Palestinian
groups who had dominated the border area, and used it to attack northern
Israel.  My convoy passed through the deserted cities of Sidon and Tyre,
shattered by Israeli artillery; abandoned Palestinian refugee camps 
shredded
by Israeli cluster bombs; through eerie, empty towns, like beautiful
Jezzine, where PLO snipers lurked.  And, finally, t the Litani River. 
Here,
after withdrawing from Beirut, the Israelis decided to dig in and stay. 

Southern Lebanon was then a terrifying place, and so it remains today. 
Every turn of the road can bring sniper fire, mines or bombs.  The great,

ruined Crusader fortress, Beaufort Castle, overwatches the entire area. 
After driving the PLO out of southern Lebanon, Israeli set up  a self-
styled `security zone' there, garrisoned  by 1,000 Israeli soldiers and 
a
few thousand thuggish Lebanese mercenaries.  This zone, ostensibly 
designed
to protect northern Israel from attack, has ironically become Israel's 
last
active military front- and a  zone of permanent insecurity.

Before Israel's 1982 invasion, the Shia Muslim villagers of southern 
Lebanon
were apolitical.  Dirt-poor, without  political power, they had always 
been
excluded and marginalized by the French-backed Christian elite that 
ruled
Lebanon and exploited its commercial wealth.  As the PLO became more
aggressive in southern Lebanon,. Shia resentment grew apace.  Israeli 
agents
slipped across the border to help arm and organize anti-PLO Shia groups,
most notably Amal, and a smaller group, Hizbullah, the Party of God. 

The end of Israel's budding alliance with the Shias in Lebanon came while 
I
was there.  An Israeli Army convoy drove through downtown Nabatiyah, a 
major
farming and religious center.  It was Ashura, the most emotional time of
year, when Shias erupt in frenzied grief for their  historical leader, 
the
martyred Ali.  The streets were packed with mourners.  The Israeli 
soldiers
refused to go around the town. Instead, they bulldozed their way through 
the
throngs, firing to disperse the Shia. The Shia fired back.  Thus  began 
the
14-year struggle between Israel and Hizbullah.

Iran, the center of the Shia faith, sent arms, money and advisors, both
spiritual and military, to organize the Shia. Nevertheless, Hizbullah 
was
then, and remains today, an indigenous national Lebanese movement. 
Hizbullah is Lebanon's leading political party.  In south Beirut, and 
across
southern Lebanon, Hizbullah is the de facto government, efficiently 
running
hospitals, charities, clinics, schools, and public order.  The feeble,
Syrian- backed government in Beirut rules only the capitol.  

Ever since the Nabatiyah incident, Hizbullah guerillas have battled to 
oust
Israel occupation forces from southern Lebanon.  To everyone's surprise,
Hizbullah guerillas proved Israel's most effective, courageous, and 
deadly
enemies. While the Arab World gave up its struggle with Israel, Hizbullah,

backed by Syria and Iran, fought on.

Israel and its close ally, the Clinton Administration, brand Hizbullah
`terrorists.'  But many nations see Hizbullah as a legitimate - if 
rather
scary - organization opposing continued Israeli occupation of Lebanon. 
The
UN has repeatedly demanded that Israel withdraw from Lebanon.   Every 
Israeli effort to destroy Hizbullah has only strengthened the party and
caused Israel heavy casualties.

Last week, Israeli guns and aircraft savaged southern Lebanon after
Hizbullah fired rockets into northern Israel. Both sides claimed they 
were
retaliating for attacks on civilians.  Israel casualties  were light; 
the
Hizbullah attacks were more of an irritant than national threat. But 
they
directly challenged Prime Minister Shimon Peres, who must convince 
Israeli
voters that he is not a dove, as critics charge, but tough enough to 
crush
any security threat. Israel's Operation Grapes of Wrath showed Peres can 
be
as hawkish as the opposition Likud. Peres did not initiate this crisis, 
but
he will certainly benefit from it. 

By ravaging southern Lebanon, killing some 150 civilians, and driving
400,000 refugees northward to Beirut, Israel was clearly also attempting 
to
pressure the Lebanese government and its patron, Syria, to curb or even
crush Hizbullah.  Israel has learned the folly of sending ground troops 
deep
into Lebanon. 

Normally, the US would pressure both  sides into quickly ending the
fighting. Instead, the Clinton Administration gave Israel carte blanche 
in
Lebanon, leading an Israeli newspaper to call Clinton, `the last Zionist.
' 
His motivation was more likely domestic US politics than Zionism.  
Critics
charge the Clinton Administration, gripped by election fever, has 
virtually
delegated direction of US Mideast policy to Jerusalem. 

Even so, Israel's latest foray into Lebanon will probably backfire. 
Lebanese of all factions have united behind Hizbullah.  Syria will not 
be
easily pressured out of Lebanon, nor will it let Israel off the hook 
there
until the Golan Heights are returned.  The heavy Lebanese civilian
casualties caused by Israeli shelling are obviously counter- productive 
to a
regional peace.

Occupation of southern Lebanon has brought Israel and the Lebanese 
nothing
but grief.  One day, Israel must withdraw. But as previous Israeli
governments have discovered to their dismay, getting out of the Lebanese
quagmire is far harder than getting in.  Until then, angrier-than-ever
Hizbullah guerrillas will likely continue battling Israel in a dirty war
that neither side wants. 

copyright   Eric Margolis   1996






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Jerusalem, May 8, 1996
>From  the Associated Press

A stinging U.N. report released Tuesday accuses Israel of atrocities by 
saying Israel deliberately shelled a refugee camp in south Lebanon. The 
shelling massacred 91 women and children on April 18th. Israel had said 
they had no way to locate the camp and the shelling was therefore an 
'accident'. However, the U.N. released an amateur video broadcast Monday 
showing an Israeli drone flying over the area during the shelling. Drones,
 pilotless reconnaissance planes, are used to pinpoint targets without 
risking loss of a pilot.

Caught in a lie, Israel then changed her story, saying the drone had been 
on a mission to locate Hezbollah guerilla positioins when it was diverted 
to Qana to investigate reports of the U.N. camp being shelled. Israel's 
contention is that the drone showed up after the shelling had begun and 
released 4 minutes of the drone's own 50 minute camera video taken from a 
height of 4,000 feet showing smoke rising from the buildings in the camp.


"We didn't know civilians were there", said Lt. Col. Moshe Fogel, adding 
Israeli gunners aiming at Hezbollah sites had miscalculated by some 150 
yards. The U.N. report questioned that explanation, with Maj. Gen. Frank 
van Kappen, a Dutch officer, daying the pattern of artillery shell 
impacts is "inconsistent with a normal overshooting."

The army's own logs show the shelling lasted 11 minutes, with 15 whells 
hitting the civilians. This contradicts Israel's original version that 
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05/15/96
Crown Hts, Brooklyn, NYC

Jewish vigilantes who beat an African-American man last week were 
indicted by a grand jury today. Eli Rogatsky, 20, and Josef Prus, 39, 
face charges of assault & criminal possession of a weapon for savagely 
beating handyman Kenneth Hartley, 36, who is Black.

Hassidic residents stood by and did nothing when the vigilantes assaulted 
Hartley in front of a crowd of pre-teens. Other area residents called 
police, who then tried to arrest the vigilantes. The incident led to 
riots by Hassidics till the wee hours of the morning, keeping Mayor 
Jiuliani up all night trying to mediate.

According to the indictments, the pair, backed up by other Hassidics, 
beat, punched and kicked Hartley and struck him with their radios. Eleven 
other Jews were arrested in the all-night affair in the racially divided 
neighborhood.

The Rev. Al Sharpton, who spoke on behalf of the victim, said the 
indictments were "a good first step." "We're monitoring to make sure 
there is no inappropriate plea-bargaining and that they go to trial and 
that they prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law."

The Hassidics repeatedly referred to Hartley as a "Schwartze." Prus and 
Rogatsky are members of the Shomrin Volunteer Patrol and confronted 
Hartley in the mistaken belief his 8-year-old nephew had stolen a bicycle.

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Date: Monday, 06-May-96 08:22 AM

From: Slayer@orbiter.com       \ Internet:    (slayer@orbiter.com)

Subject: Hassidic Jews.

Just to give you an idea of what Hassidic Jews believe, while the
so-called "good socialists" in Germany where "struggling against racism",

Martin Buber (the leader of the hassidic movement) was compiling his
blood thirsty "pious" movement. It is a very blood thirsty and
honestly hate-laced movement. (as an example) Habbad is just another off-
shoot of this:

"My final, more general example is, if possible, even more shocking than
the others. It concerns the attitude of the Hassidic movement towards
non-Jews. Hassidism - a continuation and debasement of Jewish
mysticism - is still a living movement, with hundreds of thousands of
active adherents who have acquired a very considerable political
influence in Israel among the leaders of most parties and even more so
in the higher echelons of the army."

"What, then, are the views of this movement concerining non-jews? As an
example, let us take the famous Hatanya, a fundamental book of the
Habbad movement, one of the most important branches of Hassidism.
According to this book, all non-jews are totally satanic creatures 'in
whom there is absolutely nothing good'. Even a non-jewish embryo is
qualitatively different from a jewish one. The very existence of a
non-jew is 'inessential', whereas all of creation was created solely for
the sake of the jews."
(pages 26 & 27 of Jewish History, Jewish Religion The Weight of 3,000
years. By Israel Shahak)

Not to go in depth with this, it also talks about how evil Christians are,

as well as in general how evil all non-jews are. How evil Muslims are,
specificly, and more... Israel Shahak is indeed one of the few rareities,

seeing as how it looks more like he is just alittle afraid that people
(non-jews) will figure out what jews really think of us. Remember the 
first page of the Yeshiva prayerbook, "Thank God for having made me a Jew.
 Thank God for having made me a man instead of a woman."
*********************************************

May 15, 1996
_American Goes on Trial in Hamburg_

Gary Rex Lauck is finally getting his day in court. Lauck, a U.S. citizen,

was taken into custody by Danish police in March 1995 in response to a
German warrant for his arrest and extradited to Germany five months 
later
after he exhausted all possibilities for appeal (cf. TWIG 4/7/95, p.2;
9/8/95, p.2). On Thursday (May 9), he went on trial in Hamburg for
incitement to violence and hatred (Volksverhetzung) and 37 other offenses.

German law enforcement authorities maintain that Lauck is one of the 
most
active suppliers of neo-Nazi publications and paraphernalia to rightwing
extremist groups in Germany. Operating from his home in Lincoln, Nebraska,

he is believed to have been in contact with German neo-Nazis since 1972.
Production and distribution of such materials in Germany is explicitly
prohibited under German law. Lauck (42) has long styled himself the 
leader
of the foreign branch of the Nazi party (National Socialist Workers'
Party-Overseas Organization/ Nationalsozialistische Deutsche
Arbeiterpartei/Auslands- und Aufbauorganisation). Among the publications 
he
produces is the bimonthly NS Kampfruf! ( NationalSocialist Battle Call ), 
which has an
estimated circulation of 20,000. The case has attracted widespread 
attention
not only because of the person Lauck, but because it illustrates the
differences between the U.S. concept of unrestricted free speech and the
German system, which forbids neo-Nazi propaganda. If sentenced, Lauck 
could
face up to five years in a German prison.

************************************************

Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 01:24 PM

I received the following from a reader in Switzerland who took the
information below from a regular news wire. 

". . . Fifty years after the end of the Second World War, a total of 5,
570
cases in which individuals are suspected of having committed crimes 
during
the National Socialist regime remain unresolved, Minister of Justice 
Edward
Schmidt-Joertzig (FDP) announced in late February at the presentation of
Germany's first national compilation of statistics on the prosecution of
Nazi crimes.

 'The data show,' Schmidt-Joertzig said, 'that prosecutors still take 
the
task of bringing those responsible for the horrendous crimes of the 
Hitler
dictatorship to justice seriously. . . '"

According to this correspondent, Germany has prosecuted 106,178 (!) 
persons
since 1945.  6,494 were convicted.  This amounts to a conviction rate of
6.12% (!)  And I would like to add that many were convicted in the 
immediate
postwar era when the "eye witness" testimony and affidavits were 
massively
faked and could seldom be verified.

A perfect example:  remember the 7 Germans convicted of the Katyn 
massacre
(by the Soviets), based on "eye witness" testimony and 4,400 (!) 
fraudulent
affidavits by Russian witnesses?   All later proven to be coerced and 
faked.

Nonetheless, the German soldiers were executed and to this day never
rehabilitated by the Germans or the Russians, even though Gorbachev 
ADMITTED
Katyn as one of Stalin's crimes!

 ". . . And this," writes my Swiss correspondent, referring to the
statistics of people charged compared to people actually convicted, 
"using
all the kangaroo court powers of the allies and their German puppets! 
They
should be laughed into oblivion by the world.

These "horrendous" crimes must be in the same realm as the fictitious
"holocaust"- or the conviction rate would be in the 90+%.

Imagine 6% conviction!  That boggles the mind!  . . "

It does - doesn't it?     When you think of all the money, misery, 
destroyed
reputations and ruined careers etc. that this has meant, you wonder how 
the
Allies and their Quislings in Europe can look at themselves in the mirror.


Ingrid
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SUBJECT: Like vitamins..one-a-day 
Museums & memorials are opening at the rate of one a day world-wide as 
j*ws panic with the expected demise of so-called eye-witnesses. No 
'survivors' are expected to be alive by the year 2000. A coincidence...or 
does this coincide with Global 2000 and the NWO headquartered in 
Jerusalem??

We will have a major story on the above to be posted Sunday AM.

Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 11:14 PM

_Berlin Rail Station to Become Memorial_ (ANA)

German officials announced today (5/14/96) that a Berlin railway station 
is
to be converted to a memorial to thousands of jews they say were deported 
to
their deaths by Nazis during World War II.  Representatives from German 
Rail
and jewish organizations agreed to cover a portion of a Grunewald 
station
platform with steel plates that have the dates of supposed deportations, 
the
number of supposed prisoners and the supposed destination.  German Rail 
will
fund the project, which is scheduled to begin later this year.

   =====

Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor
*****************************************
Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 09:25 AM

_Argentina to Build "Holocaust" Memorial_ (ANA)

The Argentine jewish community announced yesterday (5/13/96) that their
country will be building a monument to "holocaust victims" which will 
face
Argentina's Congress building.  In a statement the Delegation of
Argentine-Israeli Associations (DAIA) said "This honors democratic 
society
and the jewish community of Argentina and the world."  Alfredo Neuburger,

DAIA's Executive Director, said a law ordering the creation of the 
monument
called for artists and architects to present projects.  Argentina is said 
to
have one of the world's largest jewish communities.

   =====

Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor
****************************************

Date: Monday, 06-May-96 09:17 AM

_Israel's "Holocaust" Museum Criticized_ (ANA)

Israel's Yad Vashem "holocaust" museum came under attack yesterday 
(5/5/96)
>from  several "survivors" for selling stones with inscriptions of 
"perished
survivors."  The stones can be purchased for between $500 and $1000. 
Daniel
Chanoch said "This is enraging.  Those who have no money will not be
memorialized.  It is just like in the ghettos: Those who had no money 
were
the first ones sent to the gas chambers."  A spokeswoman for the museum 
said
that proceeds from sales benefit "survivors" and their families and Yad
Vashem makes no profit.

   =====

Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor
********************************************

_Planned Museum of Jewish History in Poland Receives German Backing_

Organizers of the  Museum for Jewish History in Poland  soon to be built 
in
Warsaw now officially have German friends in high places. In mid-April,
President Roman Herzog and a committee of prominent public figures 
formally
established a German support organization to help raise funds for the
museum. Besides contributing to the U.S. $50 million building costs and 
the
museum's annual operating budget, the German group intends  to support
educational measures that will serve in fighting anti-Semitism and
reconciliation and understanding .  The establishment of the German 
support
organization fulfills a promise Herzog had made during a visit to Poland 
in
1994. The Warsaw museum also enjoys the backing of an international 
support
committee headed by Chaim Herzog, the former president of Israel. As its
name suggests, the planned museum will document the history of Poland's 
once
sizeable Jewish community and its contributions to Polish and European
culture. A piece of property on the site of the 1943 Warsaw ghetto 
uprising
has been set aside for the museum.

   AND THIS from the EU subdivision of the NWO:

Germany's Greens and their Polish counterparts are joining forces.
Representatives of Alliance 90/Greens and of the environmental forum of 
Unia Wolnosci, Poland's largest opposition party, announced plans for 
joint
action last month in Bonn. The two parties, like others in their 
respective
nations, support the rapid integration of Poland and the other reform 
states
of Eastern Europe in the European Union. Expanding the EU eastwards, 
they
said, would provide occasion for an environmentally oriented reform of
agriculture to correct the errors propagated under the EU's existing
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In every country where they have acquired political savvy, j*ws have 
pushed for liberal immigration policies which dilute the area's culture, 
language and financial resources. Nowhere has this sabotage been more 
potent than in america and Germany. Now, a high court may be reversing 
that trend; but is it too late?

Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 11:04 PM

_Avoiding political storm, German high court backs tough asylum law_ 
(AP)

BONN, Germany (May 14, 1996 4:30 p.m. EDT) -- Germany's highest court 
upheld
on Tuesday a 1993 asylum law that dramatically curbed immigration and 
eased
politicians' fears of a resurgence of right-wing violence against
foreigners.

The Federal Constitutional Court rejected a series of challenges to the 
law
that had scrapped Germany's open-door policy for millions of displaced
people and gave authorities wide powers to turn asylum-seekers back to
neighboring countries.

The eight-judge panel ordered additional safeguards to ensure deported
refugees don't wind up back in a country where they risk persecution. 
But
activists involved in the asylum issue called the changes cosmetic and 
said
the court had failed to uphold refugees' human rights.

Chancellor Helmut Kohl said the ruling was "very helpful for the future.
"

The court, meeting at its seat in Karlsruhe, dismissed appeals by five
refugees who charged the asylum law was unconstitutional.

A spokeswoman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, Judith Kumin,
called the verdict "disappointing." Asylum-seekers sent back to 
countries
Germany considers safe often have trouble getting a fair hearing there, 
she
said.

Among the plaintiffs was Maryam Essa, an Iraqi who sought asylum in 
Germany
in 1993 after telling authorities that members of Saddam Hussein's Baath
party had killed her Christian parents for their beliefs and threatened 
her.

The government wants to deport her to Greece, the "safe country" from 
which
she arrived. Essa says Greece might expel her to Turkey, which in turn 
might
send her back to Iraq.

World War II unleashed a flood of refugees across Europe and beyond. 
German
leaders wrote the open-door policy on refugees into the 1949 constitution 
to
show they were sincere about making amends for Nazi crimes.

Germany became a beacon for hundreds of thousands of refugees from 
Soviet
bloc countries after the 1989 fall of the Berlin Wall, adding to a stream 
of
foreigners seeking sanctuary from war and persecution in Third World
countries.

Of the 6 million foreigners in Germany, about one-third are believed to 
be
refugees. They include Kurds from Iraq, Turkey and Iran and other people
>from  Algeria, Iraq, Iran, Sri Lanka, Russia and eastern Europe. About
350,000 Bosnians are allowed to stay under a special rule until their
country is safe enough for their return.

The asylum law was tightened in May 1993 by politicians desperate to 
curb
the xenophobia fueling neo-Nazi violence. That year, the number of
foreigners applying for asylum dropped 70 percent, to 127,937 compared 
to
438,191 in 1992.

Extreme-right attacks dropped by about half, to 1,489 in 1994 from 2,639 
in
1992. Figures for last year are expected to show another decrease.

Germany now grants asylum to about 9 percent of applicants.

The court upheld the law's controversial "safe third nation" rule for
refugees who enter Germany not from their homelands, but via a European
Union country or any other that Germany deems safe.

In practice, it means all refugees who enter Germany by land are
automatically sent back to the transit nations.

Pro-Asyl, a refugee rights group, says the practice has produced "chain
deportations" in which asylum-seekers are expelled from one nation after
another, sometimes ending up in the homelands they fled.

The group urged the government Tuesday to suspend this rule.

The court banned deportations of refugees to countries that might send 
them
back home without examining their cases. But it granted the German
government leeway in deciding each case.

Also upheld was a provision under which refugees whose homelands are 
deemed
free of persecution and who enter Germany by land can be sent home
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Germany continues to be bilked of millions by the international j*wish 
community, a never-ending saga of fraud, and a primary method of keeping 
the nation too weak to squeek. Mentioned also is the EU [Europen Union], 
a subdivision of the coming NWO with the Capitol in Jerusalem.

Date: Monday, 13-May-96 03:59 PM

>From  the May 10 issue of _The Germany_ (TWIG)

_Kinkel: Germany Accepts the Responsibility of Its History_

Intensifying the transatlantic dialogue between Europe and North America 
was the core issue Wednesday (May 8) as Foreign Minister Klaus Kinkel met 
with his Canadian and U.S. counterparts. In Ottowa, Kinkel and Foreign 
Minister
Lloyd Axworthy reportedly discussed their nations' engagement in Bosnia 
and opportunities for strengthening bilateral relations. Increasing 
cooperation within the Atlantic alliance was also a topic raised in 
Ottowa. To both Axworthy and, later in the day in Washington, U.S. 
Secretary of State Warren
Christopher, Kinkel conveyed the strong reservations Germany and its EU 
partners share about proposed U.S. trade sanctions against Cuba. 
Washington's efforts to intensify its economic isolation of Cuba, Kinkel 
warned, could provoke a trade war between the U.S. and Europe. Kinkel 
underscored the otherwise harmonious relations between Germany and the U.
S. in an address to the Assembly of the American Jewish Committee 
Wednesday evening in Washington on the 51st anniversary of Germany's 
surrender in World War II. Rejecting notions of collective guilt, Kinkel 
spoke of the German duty to accept responsibility for the past, to try to 
mitigate the suffering Germany caused during the Nazi era, and to make 
sure that memory of the Nazis' crimes remain alive. Through the end of 
1995, he noted, the Federal Republic has provided approximately DM 97 
billion (currently U.S. $62.6 billion) toward making restitution for the 
Holocaust. That sum, he
added, will rise to DM 124 billion ($80 billion) by the year 2030. 
Germany's commitment to maintaining close ties to Israel and to improving 
relations with its eastern neighbors likewise stems from an 
acknowledgement of its past, Kinkel said.  The lessons my country learned 
>from  the crimes of Nazism are as valid now as they were then: an 
unqualified commitment to freedom, democracy and human rights; European 
integration; a close, special relationship with Israel; and friendship 
with the United States.

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1994 ?? Los Angeles
SCROLLS REFER TO DEATH OF MESSIAH
Associated Press

Newly released text from the Dead Sea Scrolls mentions the execution of a 
Messiahlike leader, suggesting that some ancient j*ws shared the 
Christian concept of the slaying of a Messiah, scholars said yesterday.

One fragment contains 5 lines of text that describes a "leader of the 
community" being "put to death" and mentions "piercings" or "wouunds," 
said Robert EISENMAN, a professor of Middle East religions at Calif. St. 
University, Long Beach.

The text also uses Messiah-related terms such as "the staff, " "the 
branch of David" and the "Root of Jesse," he said. eisenman helped 
translate the scroll fragments.

Its language is close to that in the Old Testament Book of Isaiah, which 
says, "for our sins he was wounded." Many Christians use Isaiah's 
prophecies to aid their understanding of Jesus. Eisenman didn't know if 
the leader mentioned in the text was Jesus. He said the text has far 
reaching significance because it shows the scrolls' writers and early 
Christians shared similar Messianic ideas. He said the text supports his 
controversial theory that the most recent scrolls were written by j*ws 
who helped form early christianity. Many other scholars believe the 
scrolls were written by an ascetic j*wish cult called Essenes. "We've 
known for a long time there are connections between ideas contained in 
the scrolls and Christianity, however, this particular idea, that of a 
dying Messiah, is new and explosive, " said Michael WISE, a Univ. of 
Chicago professor of Aramaic, the language of Jesus.

Wise also helped translate the fragments. He said it was always thought 
that j*ws at the time of Jesus expected a Messiah who would restore 
Israel to dominance politically. yet the released text shows that the 
j*wish scroll writers had the idea of a Messiah who would suffer and die. 
"That shows this was not an idea unique to Christianity", he said, adding 
, "Anything which potentially impugns the uniqueness of the Christian 
message can be seen by some people as invalidating it or weakening it.

The scrolls contain the oldest known copies of the Old Testament and 
numerous other writings. Scholars believe they were written by a j*wish 
sect sometime between 200 BC and 50 AD. The 800 scrolls, most in 
fragments, were found in caves near the Dead Sea in the late 1940s and 
early '50s and  were stored in Jerusalem. They contain priceless 
information about the period that spawned Christianity. ACCESS TO THE 
SCROLLS WAS CONTROLLED BY JORDANIAN AND LATER ISRAELI AUSPICES FOR 40 
YEARS. Criticism was that the j*ws were afraid to release the information 
and restricted access to only j*wish scholars, who were sluggish , if not 
deceitful , in publishing translations.
The Huntington Library in San Marino broke the monopoly in September by 
giving qualified scholars free access to its 3,000 photographs of scroll 
fragments. Eisenman ws the first granted such access.

If the translation is correct, it "tightens the connection tremendously 
between the early Christians and the people who wrote the scrolls, said 
James Tabor, a Univ of No Carolina associate Prof. of Christian Origins 
and ancient Judaism. 

"I doubt if one would call it revolutionary" wrote Eugene Ulrich, chief 
editor of the scrolls and theology Prof.  of Notre Dame. He, too, had 
early access to the scrolls. Ulrich said it will be published soon and 
some text has already been offered in Madrid by  Emile Puesh, another 
editor.

Eisenman and Tabor said the scrolls could have been published years ago 
and now they want to play it down because it could damage traditional 
religious views. Ulrich denied the text has been withheld.






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Subject: Survivor contradicts GOLDHAGEN
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The recent publication of Goldhagens book "Hitler's Willing Executioners..
." is contradicted by the recently purchased (rights) to the _Klemperer 
Journals_, painstakingly written over the Hitler years by a j*wish 
eyewitness:

>From  this week's (May 10) issue of _The Week in
Germany_ (TWIG), which can be found on the Internet at
,
 and :


_Aufbau Publishers Sell U.S. Translation Rights to Klemperer Journals for 
Record Sum_

One of Germany's most talked about recent bestsellers will soon be coming 
to bookstores in the United States. In 1935, Victor Klemperer (1881-1960) 
was forced from his position as a professor of Romance languages in 
Dresden because he was a Jew. He was shortly thereafter deprived of all 
access to the university library, making it impossible for him to carry 
on his scholarly work, so he devoted himself all the more intently to the 
journal he had maintained since 1897. Klemperer avoided deportation and 
the prospect of death in a concentration camp, but, even though he was 
married to a
gentile, he could not escape the civic disenfranchisement of the Jews 
under Nazi rule. The step-by-step exclusion of the Jews from German 
society and the indignities heaped upon them figure prominently in 
Klemperer's journal entries from the years 1933-1945, which were 
published last fall by the
Berlin-based Aufbau Verlag under the title Ich will Zeugnis ablegen bis 
zum letzten ( I Want to Give Witness to the End ). Aufbau announced 
Saturday (May 4) that it had sold the rights for a U.S. edition to Random 
House for approximately DM 840,000 (U.S. $542,000), a record sum for the 
translation
rights to a work originally published in German. Despite their formidable 
bulk (1,700 pages) the two volumes of Ich will Zeugnis ablegen bis zum 
letzten made it onto Germany's bestseller list last fall. The work 
stirred much discussion, in part because of Klemperer's eloquently 
precise detailing of the Third Reich's fundamental barbarism, in part 
because of his emphatic defense of Germany in the face of that barbarism. 
Klemperer, a veteran of the First World War and true-believing product of 
Germany's educational tradition in the humanities, insisted in his 
journal that the Nazis were an aberration, that they were the exact 
opposite of all that his Germany represented, something from an 
eyewitness which contradicts the new book by Goldhagen who blames all 
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_Holocaust Memorial Construction to Begin in 1999_

The cornerstone for Germany's planned national Holocaust memorial will 
be
laid on January 27, 1999, backers of the memorial and officials from 
Bonn
and Berlin announced April 24. January 27 was chosen, they explained,
because it was recently designated the national day of commemoration for
victims of Nazi persecution (cf. TWIG 1/26/96, p.1). What the memorial 
to
Jews murdered by the Nazis will look like is, however, still open to
question. Artist Christine Jakob-Marcks won the design competition for 
the
memorial with her proposal to build a huge tombstone-like structure
inscribed with the names of the Jews who died in the Holocaust, but many
supporters of the project, including Chancellor Kohl and his cabinet, 
voiced
reservations about her design (cf. TWIG 7/7/95,        p.6; 7/21/95, p.7).
 A
new choice is now to be made from the seven best submissions to the 
original
competition.






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It seems that for each alleged victim, they want one perpetrator. Note 
the terrible discrepency between the number prosecuted and the number 
convicted.

_Justice Minister: 5,570 Cases of Suspected Nazi Crimes Remain Open_

Fifty years after the end of the Second World War, a total of 5,570 cases 
in
which individuals are suspected of having committed crimes during the
National Socialist regime remain unresolved, Minister of Justice Edzard
Schmidt-Joertzig (FDP) announced in late February at the presentation of
Germany's first national compilation of statistics on the prosecution of
Nazi crimes. "The data show," Schmidt-Joertzig said, "that prosecutors 
still
take the task of bringing those responsible for the horrendous crimes of 
the
Hitler dictatorship to justice seriously." Germany has prosecuted 106,
178
persons since 1945; 6,494 were convicted.
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From: Anton     \ Internet:    (anton88@cris.com)

The following articles appeared in this week's issue (5/3/96) of _The
Week In Germany_ (http://www.germany-info.org/whats-new/):

_Extreme Right Is Using the Internet, Government Reports_

According to a statement by the federal government Tuesday (April 30),
right-wing extremists are increasingly turning to the Internet to 
transmit
propaganda materials produced in other countries to Germany. Extreme
right-wing networking appears to concentrate on the use of electronic
"mailboxes," the government said. Germany's domestic intelligence 
service
has identified twelve mailboxes in the country connected to the Thule
network (Thule-Netz), an international meeting place on the Internet of
members of extremist right-wing groups, and also found mailboxes 
connected to the Thule network in Norway, Austria and the Netherlands.

       The dissemination of certain types of materials and symbols is 
banned
under German law. At government request, Deutsche Telekom recently 
blocked
access through its network to a site operated by Ernst Zuendel, a
German-born Canadian neo-Nazi (cf. TWIG 2/2/96, p.6). A German 
investigation
forced CompuServe to block worldwide access to some Internet sites that 
were
believed to violate German child-pornography law. The conflict was 
resolved
when the company produced software restricting access to those sites in
Germany (cf. TWIG 1/5/96, p.5; 2/16/96, p.4).
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05/16/96
Hohenhausen Guild
New York

Subject: Jews and wasting your taxes; social destruction

NY State Supreme Court Judge Helen FREEDMAN is encouraging homelessness 
by ordering the Giuliani administration to spend $150 "for the benefit" 
of each and every family CLAIMING to be homeless and forced to stay more 
than one night in the Bronx's Emergency Assistance Unit. The unit is a 
temporary reception center for people awaiting placement in the shelter 
system.

The city estimates direct payments to OSTENSIBLY homeless families will 
cost New York over $1 million.

The ruling goes further, to be sure. Indeed , it stands to evicerate City 
Hall's effort to bring some order to the long-chaotic system. Judge 
FREEDMAN is determined to impose her PERSONAL belief that all who declare 
themselves homeless have an unconditional right to taxpayer-funded 
housing. FREEDMAN's intervention could spell fiscal disaster.

FREEDMAN has previously held city officials in contempt for failing to 
place new arrivals in shelters, no questions asked. The Dept of Homeless 
Services has limited recipients to those referred by Social Services. The 
court order guts this pattern and serves those who show up for criminal 
activities (drug-dealing and robbery), as well as those are not actually 
homeless.

Attorneys say they will appeal, however, officials of FREEDMANS ilk 
constantly blast the system with consent decrees which undermine sound 
public policy.




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05/16/96
Hohenhausen Guild
New York

Subject: Jews and wasting your taxes; social destruction

NY State Supreme Court Judge Helen FREEDMAN is encouraging homelessness 
by ordering the Giuliani administration to spend $150 "for the benefit" 
of each and every family CLAIMING to be homeless and forced to stay more 
than one night in the Bronx's Emergency Assistance Unit. The unit is a 
temporary reception center for people awaiting placement in the shelter 
system.

The city estimates direct payments to OSTENSIBLY homeless families will 
cost New York over $1 million.

The ruling goes further, to be sure. Indeed , it stands to evicerate City 
Hall's effort to bring some order to the long-chaotic system. Judge 
FREEDMAN is determined to impose her PERSONAL belief that all who declare 
themselves homeless have an unconditional right to taxpayer-funded 
housing. FREEDMAN's intervention could spell fiscal disaster.

FREEDMAN has previously held city officials in contempt for failing to 
place new arrivals in shelters, no questions asked. The Dept of Homeless 
Services has limited recipients to those referred by Social Services. The 
court order guts this pattern and serves those who show up for criminal 
activities (drug-dealing and robbery), as well as those are not actually 
homeless.

Attorneys say they will appeal, however, officials of FREEDMANS ilk 
constantly blast the system with consent decrees which undermine sound 
public policy.




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05/16/96
Hohenhausen Guild
New York

Subject: Jews and wasting your taxes; social destruction

NY State Supreme Court Judge Helen FREEDMAN is encouraging homelessness 
by ordering the Giuliani administration to spend $150 "for the benefit" 
of each and every family CLAIMING to be homeless and forced to stay more 
than one night in the Bronx's Emergency Assistance Unit. The unit is a 
temporary reception center for people awaiting placement in the shelter 
system.

The city estimates direct payments to OSTENSIBLY homeless families will 
cost New York over $1 million.

The ruling goes further, to be sure. Indeed , it stands to evicerate City 
Hall's effort to bring some order to the long-chaotic system. Judge 
FREEDMAN is determined to impose her PERSONAL belief that all who declare 
themselves homeless have an unconditional right to taxpayer-funded 
housing. FREEDMAN's intervention could spell fiscal disaster.

FREEDMAN has previously held city officials in contempt for failing to 
place new arrivals in shelters, no questions asked. The Dept of Homeless 
Services has limited recipients to those referred by Social Services. The 
court order guts this pattern and serves those who show up for criminal 
activities (drug-dealing and robbery), as well as those are not actually 
homeless.

Attorneys say they will appeal, however, officials of FREEDMANS ilk 
constantly blast the system with consent decrees which undermine sound 
public policy.




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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Turner Diaries
Date: 26 May 1996 16:57:41 GMT
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Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 09:09 AM

Novel is coming out of hiding_ (Scripps-McClatchy Western Service)

(May 14, 1996 00:06 a.m. EDT) "The Turner Diaries" is a dreadful book. 
"The Turner Diaries" is a bigoted book. It is ignorant. It may make 
readers sick to the stomach.

And that's according to the book's publisher, who this month will enable 
more Americans to buy what the FBI considers the bible of white 
supremacists.

The novel, written by William Pierce, has been an underground
best-seller for nearly two decades. Most of the nearly 200,000 copies 
sold belong to Aryans who thrill to the fictional account of a climactic 
U.S. race war in the 1990s.

Also among its readers are prosecutors who trace similarities between 
events in the book and real-life crimes, including the Oklahoma City 
bombing, the murder of Denver radio talk-show host Alan BERG and the Utah 
odyssey of a man who helped rob an armored car.

Until now, readers have had to special-order the book from West 
Virginia's National Vanguard. But within the next few weeks, Lyle 
Stuart's Barricade Books will begin shipping a newly printed edition to 
bookstores around the nation.

Bookstores are ordering the new edition, despite appeals from the 
Southern Poverty Law Center and The American Jewish Committee. Those 
groups noted that some proceeds from the book will finance Pierce's neo-
Nazi group.

"The book clearly has been used to promote domestic terrorism," said 
Kenneth STERN, an expert on anti-Semitism who wrote to booksellers on 
behalf of The American Jewish Committee.

In the early 1980s, the group The Order patterned itself after the 
fictional "Organization" of The Turner Diaries. And Page 38 of the book, 
which recounts the fictional bombing of a building in Washington, D.C., 
mirrors the April 19, 1995, bombing in Oklahoma City that killed 168 
people.

The book figured prominently in the 1985 Utah trial of white supremacist 
Michael Stanley Norris, who was convicted of being an accessory after the 
fact in a $3.6 million armored-car robbery in California. Norris had 
acted as lookout as The Order robbers fled through Utah.

Leaders of The Order, a violent splinter group of the Aryan Nations, 
recruited members such as Norris with the question, "How would you like 
to live the life of Earl Turner?"

The fictional Turner is a member of the Organization, which overthrows 
the U.S. government and ultimately rules a white world. The Organization 
launches its revolution after the JEWISH-run "System" confiscates private 
guns. At the book's close, cities are littered with the bodies of 
minorities, federal judges, Jews and white women who "betrayed their 
race" by marrying Jewish men.

Stern said the book should be titled: "How to Start a Program of Killing .
... Jews." Then people would understand what it really is about.

The apocalypse depicted in The Turner Diaries is no surprise as the new 
millennium approaches, said University of Utah history Professor Robert 
Goldberg. Books that foretold a U.S. governmental collapse or shift in 
power also emerged in the late 1800s.

"As we approach the end of the millennium, you're going to see an
intensification of these kinds of books and unfortunately this kind of 
thinking," said GOLDBERG, author of "Hooded Empire: The Ku Klux Klan in 
Colorado." He has read "The Turner Diaries."

Part of what makes "The Turner Diaries" so popular among Whites
is its utility as a manual, he said. Because of its use as a guidebook, 
Stern likens "The Turner Diaries" to "The Anarchist Cookbook," which 
Stuart's Barricade Books also published.
Bookstores have the right to sell it, he said, but they should consider 
the consequences.

Stuart, who declined to be interviewed, argues in a foreword to "The 
Turner Diaries" that "we have a right to know what the enemy is thinking. 
This book will tell you that. In ways it may infuriate you."

What Stuart doesn't say in his foreword is that "The Turner Diaries" also 
may bore readers. Ten years after he prosecuted Norris, now-U.S. 
Magistrate Samuel Alba remembers nothing of the book except that it is 
poorly written and "weird."








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Date: Wednesday, 08-May-96 06:16 AM

_Reds' Owner Criticized For Comments About Hitler_ (ANA)

Marge Schott, owner of the Cincinnati Reds baseball team, has come under 
fire from jewish groups for her recent comment that Hitler "went too far.
" In an interview for ESPN that aired Sunday night Schott said about 
Hitler's leadership:  "Everything you read, when he came in he was good.  
They built tremendous highways and got all the factories going.  He went 
nuts, he went berserk.  I think his own generals tried to kill him, 
didn't they? Everybody knows he was good at the beginning, but he just 
went too far." The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the American Jewish 
Congress (AJC) have asked baseball officials to take action against 
Schott for her comments.  Phil Baum of the AJC called Schott a "crude and 
thoughtless woman [who] has now reached a new low."  Ken Jacobson of the 
ADL called the comments "profoundly ignorant" and "offensive."  Schott 
was suspended for the 1993 season for making "racial" and "ethnic" slurs 
and had to undergo sensitivity training.

   =====

Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor
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Subject: Uber alles
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Date: Wednesday, 08-May-96 06:16 AM

_Reds' Owner Criticized For Comments About Hitler_ (ANA)

Marge Schott, owner of the Cincinnati Reds baseball team, has come under 
fire from jewish groups for her recent comment that Hitler "went too far.
" In an interview for ESPN that aired Sunday night Schott said about 
Hitler's leadership:  "Everything you read, when he came in he was good.  
They built tremendous highways and got all the factories going.  He went 
nuts, he went berserk.  I think his own generals tried to kill him, 
didn't they? Everybody knows he was good at the beginning, but he just 
went too far." The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the American Jewish 
Congress (AJC) have asked baseball officials to take action against 
Schott for her comments.  Phil Baum of the AJC called Schott a "crude and 
thoughtless woman [who] has now reached a new low."  Ken Jacobson of the 
ADL called the comments "profoundly ignorant" and "offensive."  Schott 
was suspended for the 1993 season for making "racial" and "ethnic" slurs 
and had to undergo sensitivity training.

   =====

Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: j*w eyewitness rebukes holocaust
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Date: Thursday, 09-May-96 05:36 PM

Thursday, April 18, 1996 - The NEWS-JOURNAL - 5C

Scholar rebuts Holocaust deniers

                By GINA GINSBURG
                News-Journal Correspondent
    ORMOND  BEACH  -  Holocaust  revisionism, the movement to deny the
breadth of the holcaust, "is not about history," said Marc Pollick, a 
guest lecturer at the Yom Hashoah Holocaust Memorial Observance.
    Pollick spoke Sunday night at the Ormond Beach Performing Arts 
Center
as part of a community-wide memorial service.
    The new antisemitism - people who deny the holocaust - is a slick,
well-financed movement with clear motives and a distinct political agenda,

Pollick said.
    Their motives are to attack Jewish history and memory, rehabilitate
the Nazi regime and attack and undermine Israel, he said.
    "Their agenda is to resurrect Nazism " Pollick said, and they are
"dangerous because they have learned to mainstream themselves."
    As an example, Pollick told the audience about an organization 
called
the Institute for Historical Review, which produces many scholarly 
looking
publications denying the Holocaust ever happened.
    Pollick, who is from Boston and a doctoral candidate in holocaust
studies, said holocaust deniers try to argue that there was never a 
single
document outlining the plan to exterminate the Jews. They claim the 6 
million deaths were caused only by disease and harsh conditions in the 
concentration camps rather than by gas chambers.
    The Germans, however, were meticulous at record keeping and had an
identification number for every Jew sent to the camps, Pollick said The
holocaust deniers fail to tell about warehouses full of documentation as
well as the lists of names at the Yad Vashem Memorial Museum in Jerusalem.

    Pollick urged everyone to hear stories, first hand, from survivors of 
the contration Camps.
    He quoted survivor and Nobel winner Elie Wiesel and said to use 
"truth
and memory as weapons" to fight against igorance and hate.
"If you can deny the holocaust, then no history is safe," Pollick said.
    Holocaust survivors were asked to come forward to light a candle, and 
then eventually all the pro- gram participants and audience members held 
a lit candle before silently leaving the auditorium.
    "The children today are so far removed from this," said Marilyn 
Richard,
whose mother and father were both holcaust survivors. "The memory has to 
go
on and impact the next generation."
    The memorial observance was sponsored by the Jewish Federation of
Volusia and Flagler counties in conjunction with Temple Beth El, Ormond
Beach, Temple Israel, Day- tona Beach, and Temple Beth Shalom, Palm Coast.

------------------------------------------------------------
It would be well to note that the j*wish conspiracy invented the idea of 
revisionism, particularly as it applies to the curriculum being taught in 
our nation's schools. An example of their revisionism is the undermining 
of traditional beliefs previously taught in this country such as honoring 
Christopher Columbus. To scatter our heritage, they teach Columbus was a 
purveyor of genocide against the indigenous American Indians, raping, 
stealing and killing.
    -Ed
Submitted by Slayer




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Date: Thursday, 09-May-96 05:36 PM

Thursday, April 18, 1996 - The NEWS-JOURNAL - 5C

Scholar rebuts Holocaust deniers

                By GINA GINSBURG
                News-Journal Correspondent
    ORMOND  BEACH  -  Holocaust  revisionism, the movement to deny the
breadth of the holcaust, "is not about history," said Marc Pollick, a 
guest lecturer at the Yom Hashoah Holocaust Memorial Observance.
    Pollick spoke Sunday night at the Ormond Beach Performing Arts 
Center
as part of a community-wide memorial service.
    The new antisemitism - people who deny the holocaust - is a slick,
well-financed movement with clear motives and a distinct political agenda,

Pollick said.
    Their motives are to attack Jewish history and memory, rehabilitate
the Nazi regime and attack and undermine Israel, he said.
    "Their agenda is to resurrect Nazism " Pollick said, and they are
"dangerous because they have learned to mainstream themselves."
    As an example, Pollick told the audience about an organization 
called
the Institute for Historical Review, which produces many scholarly 
looking
publications denying the Holocaust ever happened.
    Pollick, who is from Boston and a doctoral candidate in holocaust
studies, said holocaust deniers try to argue that there was never a 
single
document outlining the plan to exterminate the Jews. They claim the 6 
million deaths were caused only by disease and harsh conditions in the 
concentration camps rather than by gas chambers.
    The Germans, however, were meticulous at record keeping and had an
identification number for every Jew sent to the camps, Pollick said The
holocaust deniers fail to tell about warehouses full of documentation as
well as the lists of names at the Yad Vashem Memorial Museum in Jerusalem.

    Pollick urged everyone to hear stories, first hand, from survivors of 
the contration Camps.
    He quoted survivor and Nobel winner Elie Wiesel and said to use 
"truth
and memory as weapons" to fight against igorance and hate.
"If you can deny the holocaust, then no history is safe," Pollick said.
    Holocaust survivors were asked to come forward to light a candle, and 
then eventually all the pro- gram participants and audience members held 
a lit candle before silently leaving the auditorium.
    "The children today are so far removed from this," said Marilyn 
Richard,
whose mother and father were both holcaust survivors. "The memory has to 
go
on and impact the next generation."
    The memorial observance was sponsored by the Jewish Federation of
Volusia and Flagler counties in conjunction with Temple Beth El, Ormond
Beach, Temple Israel, Day- tona Beach, and Temple Beth Shalom, Palm Coast.

------------------------------------------------------------
It would be well to note that the j*wish conspiracy invented the idea of 
revisionism, particularly as it applies to the curriculum being taught in 
our nation's schools. An example of their revisionism is the undermining 
of traditional beliefs previously taught in this country such as honoring 
Christopher Columbus. To scatter our heritage, they teach Columbus was a 
purveyor of genocide against the indigenous American Indians, raping, 
stealing and killing.
    -Ed
Submitted by Slayer




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05/23/96
Beit Horon, West Bank
Israel

Subject: Americans join Israeli army.

Two American females have graduated from basic training here. They are 
members of the first all-female conbat unit isnce 1948, One from 
Washington refused to give her name. The other, Yifat Liva from Los 
Angeles, said, "My dream was always to come here and join the army."

The graduates belong to the border police, a paramilitary unit of the 
national police. They will perform all the tasks of men, except for 
patrolling the West Bank where duties are shared with the army for 
containing Palestinian unrest.
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Bedford, Va.
05/23/96

An elementary teacher here took a copy of Limbaugh's book _The Way Things 
Ought to Be_ from a 4th-grader and is getting a lot of flak for that. The 
book was open to Chapter 12 _Condoms: The New Diplomas_. The principal 
agreed, "The page was open to a story about bungee-jumping condoms."

Limbaugh is hollering censorship and the school was swamped with 'phone 
calls. The principal said, "My secretary was called a Communist." But of 
course, it's OK for j*ws in New Jersey to invite a guest to a school's 
'diversity day' who puts a condom on a purple phallis with her mouth in 
front of 400 kids. One is politically correct, Rush isn't.
*******************************************

"Watch my lips," seems to be a growing infectiion in Washington. Clinton 
won the election like so many politicians with promises in particular to 
the vocal but small segments of sickos in society. He can't even keep his 
word to them. Clinton's spokesman on 05/22/96 said Slick Willie would 
sign legislation to outlaw faggot marriages. "The president would sign 
that bill if it was presented to him as it's currently written," said 
Mike McCurry. "The predident doesn't have objections to the two things 
the bill does. One, it says that no state is forced to recognize another 
state's codification of the union. And then the second thing it does is 
it says that marriage is a union between a single man and a single woman.
"

The bill would give states authority to reject the legality of same-sex 
marriages performed in another state.
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04/12/96
Mount Holly , NJ

67-year old Dr. edward FLEISCHMAN was indicted for fondling the derriers 
of female patients. He can go to prison for 15 years. The married doctor 
was arrested after victims charged he grabbed, rubbed and kissed them 
during examinations, said Burlington County prosecutor Steven Raymond. He 
also made suggestive comments.

On every occasion FLEISCHMAN would move the patient's gown so he could 
see their buttocks, then start to engage in inappropriate rubbing. each 
of the 10 counts carries a maximum of 18 months in prison and a $7500 
fine. The sentences may run consecutively because each count of the 
indictment charges FLEISCHMAN with separate incidents, Raymond said.

FLEISCHMAN continues to practice at his Church Road office. The good 
doctor was arrested last year for rubbing hi9s groin against a 25-year-
old female's rear. The state Board of Medical Examiners prohibited him 
>from  seeing any female patients and required him to pay a licensed 
practitioner to be present for the examination of male patients, said 
Rita Malley, the Board's sppokeswoman. The doctor had also faced 
sanctions prior to that incident. In 1987 FLEISCHMAN was suspended for 
regularly engaging "in professional misconduct with female patients by 
taking sexual liberties with them physically".




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun May 26 12:25:56 PDT 1996
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>!"One of Dahlman's favorite past-times is to ridicule Holocaust victims
>!who disgree with him - to the point of claiming that they sound 
younger
>!than the necessary years, lie, have anti-semite friends."
>!A good addition to Net Kooks.

With holocaust museums opening at the rate of one-a-day world-wide, where 
are they going to get all the 'authentic' goodies needed for exhibits?? 
They will do the same as the above, but in reverse. Now we'll have 60,000,
000 shoes from alleged victims, 20,000,000 hats, 16 zillion bones, etc. 

j*ws perpetrate the biggest fraud of all. In fact, the WIESENTHAL center 
is panicing, saying that in 15 years there will no longer be any 
'eyewitnesses' alive [to authenticate the lies], and therefore they must 
'act' to make the holocaust lies a fact in history and law. By law, they 
mean that questioning any facet of what a j*w says should be a crime! It 
is that way in Canada, Germany and Austria. The U.S. Congress just took 
the first step toward that goal, passing a resolution that the alleged 
holocaust is an "historical fact'. The next step is ligislation. 

Then our next step will be to authenticate a holocaust wherein they can 
claim, "12,000,000."



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun May 26 12:25:57 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Re: j*wish Thug
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> writes:
>> >
>> >>    After living on Eretz Israel I am not surprized at all the
>> >>non-Jewish deviats posting to soc.culture.israel.  What I really 
enjoy
>> >>when I am on Eretz Israel is beating the fuck out of goyim and not 
being
>> >>persecuted for it.  Down with the goyim long live Israel.
>> >>Israel Tekhelet
>> 
>> Stop talking bullshit and come to live in Israel 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>/
>
>I hope you are not serious, but if you are you are a disgrace to all the 

>things the State of Israel stands for.
>Ralph Salinger

And j*ws wonder where anti-semitism comes from!
As to non-j*wish postings on soc.culture.israel, why not?   j*ws are 
harassing the hell out of White Power NGs.



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun May 26 13:18:48 PDT 1996
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Subject: j*wsbriefs # 804
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05/23/96
Beit Horon, West Bank
Israel

Subject: Americans join Israeli army.

Two American females have graduated from basic training here. They are 
members of the first all-female conbat unit isnce 1948, One from 
Washington refused to give her name. The other, Yifat Liva from Los 
Angeles, said, "My dream was always to come here and join the army."

The graduates belong to the border police, a paramilitary unit of the 
national police. They will perform all the tasks of men, except for 
patrolling the West Bank where duties are shared with the army for 
containing Palestinian unrest.
*******************************************

Bedford, Va.
05/23/96

An elementary teacher here took a copy of Limbaugh's book _The Way Things 
Ought to Be_ from a 4th-grader and is getting a lot of flak for that. The 
book was open to Chapter 12 _Condoms: The New Diplomas_. The principal 
agreed, "The page was open to a story about bungee-jumping condoms."

Limbaugh is hollering censorship and the school was swamped with 'phone 
calls. The principal said, "My secretary was called a Communist." But of 
course, it's OK for j*ws in New Jersey to invite a guest to a school's 
'diversity day' who puts a condom on a purple phallis with her mouth in 
front of 400 kids. One is politically correct, Rush isn't.
*******************************************

"Watch my lips," seems to be a growing infectiion in Washington. Clinton 
won the election like so many politicians with promises in particular to 
the vocal but small segments of sickos in society. He can't even keep his 
word to them. Clinton's spokesman on 05/22/96 said Slick Willie would 
sign legislation to outlaw faggot marriages. "The president would sign 
that bill if it was presented to him as it's currently written," said 
Mike McCurry. "The predident doesn't have objections to the two things 
the bill does. One, it says that no state is forced to recognize another 
state's codification of the union. And then the second thing it does is 
it says that marriage is a union between a single man and a single woman.
"

The bill would give states authority to reject the legality of same-sex 
marriages performed in another state.
********************************************

04/12/96
Mount Holly , NJ

67-year old Dr. edward FLEISCHMAN was indicted for fondling the derriers 
of female patients. He can go to prison for 15 years. The married doctor 
was arrested after victims charged he grabbed, rubbed and kissed them 
during examinations, said Burlington County prosecutor Steven Raymond. He 
also made suggestive comments.

On every occasion FLEISCHMAN would move the patient's gown so he could 
see their buttocks, then start to engage in inappropriate rubbing. each 
of the 10 counts carries a maximum of 18 months in prison and a $7500 
fine. The sentences may run consecutively because each count of the 
indictment charges FLEISCHMAN with separate incidents, Raymond said.

FLEISCHMAN continues to practice at his Church Road office. The good 
doctor was arrested last year for rubbing hi9s groin against a 25-year-
old female's rear. The state Board of Medical Examiners prohibited him 
>from  seeing any female patients and required him to pay a licensed 
practitioner to be present for the examination of male patients, said 
Rita Malley, the Board's sppokeswoman. The doctor had also faced 
sanctions prior to that incident. In 1987 FLEISCHMAN was suspended for 
regularly engaging "in professional misconduct with female patients by 
taking sexual liberties with them physically".




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun May 26 13:18:49 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Social destruction continues
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05/16/96
Hohenhausen Guild
New York

Subject: Jews and wasting your taxes; social destruction

NY State Supreme Court Judge Helen FREEDMAN is encouraging homelessness 
by ordering the Giuliani administration to spend $150 "for the benefit" 
of each and every family CLAIMING to be homeless and forced to stay more 
than one night in the Bronx's Emergency Assistance Unit. The unit is a 
temporary reception center for people awaiting placement in the shelter 
system.

The city estimates direct payments to OSTENSIBLY homeless families will 
cost New York over $1 million.

The ruling goes further, to be sure. Indeed , it stands to evicerate City 
Hall's effort to bring some order to the long-chaotic system. Judge 
FREEDMAN is determined to impose her PERSONAL belief that all who declare 
themselves homeless have an unconditional right to taxpayer-funded 
housing. FREEDMAN's intervention could spell fiscal disaster.

FREEDMAN has previously held city officials in contempt for failing to 
place new arrivals in shelters, no questions asked. The Dept of Homeless 
Services has limited recipients to those referred by Social Services. The 
court order guts this pattern and serves those who show up for criminal 
activities (drug-dealing and robbery), as well as those are not actually 
homeless.

Attorneys say they will appeal, however, officials of FREEDMANS ilk 
constantly blast the system with consent decrees which undermine sound 
public policy.




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun May 26 13:18:50 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: why do j*ws fear Turner Diaries??
Date: 26 May 1996 17:03:45 GMT
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Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 09:09 AM

Novel is coming out of hiding_ (Scripps-McClatchy Western Service)

(May 14, 1996 00:06 a.m. EDT) "The Turner Diaries" is a dreadful book. 
"The Turner Diaries" is a bigoted book. It is ignorant. It may make 
readers sick to the stomach.

And that's according to the book's publisher, who this month will enable 
more Americans to buy what the FBI considers the bible of white 
supremacists.

The novel, written by William Pierce, has been an underground
best-seller for nearly two decades. Most of the nearly 200,000 copies 
sold belong to Aryans who thrill to the fictional account of a climactic 
U.S. race war in the 1990s.

Also among its readers are prosecutors who trace similarities between 
events in the book and real-life crimes, including the Oklahoma City 
bombing, the murder of Denver radio talk-show host Alan BERG and the Utah 
odyssey of a man who helped rob an armored car.

Until now, readers have had to special-order the book from West 
Virginia's National Vanguard. But within the next few weeks, Lyle 
Stuart's Barricade Books will begin shipping a newly printed edition to 
bookstores around the nation.

Bookstores are ordering the new edition, despite appeals from the 
Southern Poverty Law Center and The American Jewish Committee. Those 
groups noted that some proceeds from the book will finance Pierce's neo-
Nazi group.

"The book clearly has been used to promote domestic terrorism," said 
Kenneth STERN, an expert on anti-Semitism who wrote to booksellers on 
behalf of The American Jewish Committee.

In the early 1980s, the group The Order patterned itself after the 
fictional "Organization" of The Turner Diaries. And Page 38 of the book, 
which recounts the fictional bombing of a building in Washington, D.C., 
mirrors the April 19, 1995, bombing in Oklahoma City that killed 168 
people.

The book figured prominently in the 1985 Utah trial of white supremacist 
Michael Stanley Norris, who was convicted of being an accessory after the 
fact in a $3.6 million armored-car robbery in California. Norris had 
acted as lookout as The Order robbers fled through Utah.

Leaders of The Order, a violent splinter group of the Aryan Nations, 
recruited members such as Norris with the question, "How would you like 
to live the life of Earl Turner?"

The fictional Turner is a member of the Organization, which overthrows 
the U.S. government and ultimately rules a white world. The Organization 
launches its revolution after the JEWISH-run "System" confiscates private 
guns. At the book's close, cities are littered with the bodies of 
minorities, federal judges, Jews and white women who "betrayed their 
race" by marrying Jewish men.

Stern said the book should be titled: "How to Start a Program of Killing .
... Jews." Then people would understand what it really is about.

The apocalypse depicted in The Turner Diaries is no surprise as the new 
millennium approaches, said University of Utah history Professor Robert 
Goldberg. Books that foretold a U.S. governmental collapse or shift in 
power also emerged in the late 1800s.

"As we approach the end of the millennium, you're going to see an
intensification of these kinds of books and unfortunately this kind of 
thinking," said GOLDBERG, author of "Hooded Empire: The Ku Klux Klan in 
Colorado." He has read "The Turner Diaries."

Part of what makes "The Turner Diaries" so popular among Whites
is its utility as a manual, he said. Because of its use as a guidebook, 
Stern likens "The Turner Diaries" to "The Anarchist Cookbook," which 
Stuart's Barricade Books also published.
Bookstores have the right to sell it, he said, but they should consider 
the consequences.

Stuart, who declined to be interviewed, argues in a foreword to "The 
Turner Diaries" that "we have a right to know what the enemy is thinking. 
This book will tell you that. In ways it may infuriate you."

What Stuart doesn't say in his foreword is that "The Turner Diaries" also 
may bore readers. Ten years after he prosecuted Norris, now-U.S. 
Magistrate Samuel Alba remembers nothing of the book except that it is 
poorly written and "weird."








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Subject: Our gal Marge
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Date: Wednesday, 08-May-96 06:16 AM

_Reds' Owner Criticized For Comments About Hitler_ (ANA)

Marge Schott, owner of the Cincinnati Reds baseball team, has come under 
fire from jewish groups for her recent comment that Hitler "went too far.
" In an interview for ESPN that aired Sunday night Schott said about 
Hitler's leadership:  "Everything you read, when he came in he was good.  
They built tremendous highways and got all the factories going.  He went 
nuts, he went berserk.  I think his own generals tried to kill him, 
didn't they? Everybody knows he was good at the beginning, but he just 
went too far." The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the American Jewish 
Congress (AJC) have asked baseball officials to take action against 
Schott for her comments.  Phil Baum of the AJC called Schott a "crude and 
thoughtless woman [who] has now reached a new low."  Ken Jacobson of the 
ADL called the comments "profoundly ignorant" and "offensive."  Schott 
was suspended for the 1993 season for making "racial" and "ethnic" slurs 
and had to undergo sensitivity training.

   =====

Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: eyewitness rebukes holocaust
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Date: Thursday, 09-May-96 05:36 PM

Thursday, April 18, 1996 - The NEWS-JOURNAL - 5C

Scholar rebuts Holocaust deniers

                By GINA GINSBURG
                News-Journal Correspondent
    ORMOND  BEACH  -  Holocaust  revisionism, the movement to deny the
breadth of the holcaust, "is not about history," said Marc Pollick, a 
guest lecturer at the Yom Hashoah Holocaust Memorial Observance.
    Pollick spoke Sunday night at the Ormond Beach Performing Arts 
Center
as part of a community-wide memorial service.
    The new antisemitism - people who deny the holocaust - is a slick,
well-financed movement with clear motives and a distinct political agenda,

Pollick said.
    Their motives are to attack Jewish history and memory, rehabilitate
the Nazi regime and attack and undermine Israel, he said.
    "Their agenda is to resurrect Nazism " Pollick said, and they are
"dangerous because they have learned to mainstream themselves."
    As an example, Pollick told the audience about an organization 
called
the Institute for Historical Review, which produces many scholarly 
looking
publications denying the Holocaust ever happened.
    Pollick, who is from Boston and a doctoral candidate in holocaust
studies, said holocaust deniers try to argue that there was never a 
single
document outlining the plan to exterminate the Jews. They claim the 6 
million deaths were caused only by disease and harsh conditions in the 
concentration camps rather than by gas chambers.
    The Germans, however, were meticulous at record keeping and had an
identification number for every Jew sent to the camps, Pollick said The
holocaust deniers fail to tell about warehouses full of documentation as
well as the lists of names at the Yad Vashem Memorial Museum in Jerusalem.

    Pollick urged everyone to hear stories, first hand, from survivors of 
the contration Camps.
    He quoted survivor and Nobel winner Elie Wiesel and said to use 
"truth
and memory as weapons" to fight against igorance and hate.
"If you can deny the holocaust, then no history is safe," Pollick said.
    Holocaust survivors were asked to come forward to light a candle, and 
then eventually all the pro- gram participants and audience members held 
a lit candle before silently leaving the auditorium.
    "The children today are so far removed from this," said Marilyn 
Richard,
whose mother and father were both holcaust survivors. "The memory has to 
go
on and impact the next generation."
    The memorial observance was sponsored by the Jewish Federation of
Volusia and Flagler counties in conjunction with Temple Beth El, Ormond
Beach, Temple Israel, Day- tona Beach, and Temple Beth Shalom, Palm Coast.

------------------------------------------------------------
It would be well to note that the j*wish conspiracy invented the idea of 
revisionism, particularly as it applies to the curriculum being taught in 
our nation's schools. An example of their revisionism is the undermining 
of traditional beliefs previously taught in this country such as honoring 
Christopher Columbus. To scatter our heritage, they teach Columbus was a 
purveyor of genocide against the indigenous American Indians, raping, 
stealing and killing.
    -Ed
Submitted by Slayer




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05/16/96
Hohenhausen Guild
New York

Subject: Jews and wasting your taxes; social destruction

NY State Supreme Court Judge Helen FREEDMAN is encouraging homelessness 
by ordering the Giuliani administration to spend $150 "for the benefit" 
of each and every family CLAIMING to be homeless and forced to stay more 
than one night in the Bronx's Emergency Assistance Unit. The unit is a 
temporary reception center for people awaiting placement in the shelter 
system.

The city estimates direct payments to OSTENSIBLY homeless families will 
cost New York over $1 million.

The ruling goes further, to be sure. Indeed , it stands to evicerate City 
Hall's effort to bring some order to the long-chaotic system. Judge 
FREEDMAN is determined to impose her PERSONAL belief that all who declare 
themselves homeless have an unconditional right to taxpayer-funded 
housing. FREEDMAN's intervention could spell fiscal disaster.

FREEDMAN has previously held city officials in contempt for failing to 
place new arrivals in shelters, no questions asked. The Dept of Homeless 
Services has limited recipients to those referred by Social Services. The 
court order guts this pattern and serves those who show up for criminal 
activities (drug-dealing and robbery), as well as those are not actually 
homeless.

Attorneys say they will appeal, however, officials of FREEDMANS ilk 
constantly blast the system with consent decrees which undermine sound 
public policy.




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun May 26 15:36:40 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Turner Diaries
Date: 26 May 1996 16:50:08 GMT
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Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 09:09 AM

Novel is coming out of hiding_ (Scripps-McClatchy Western Service)

(May 14, 1996 00:06 a.m. EDT) "The Turner Diaries" is a dreadful book. 
"The Turner Diaries" is a bigoted book. It is ignorant. It may make 
readers sick to the stomach.

And that's according to the book's publisher, who this month will enable 
more Americans to buy what the FBI considers the bible of white 
supremacists.

The novel, written by William Pierce, has been an underground
best-seller for nearly two decades. Most of the nearly 200,000 copies 
sold belong to Aryans who thrill to the fictional account of a climactic 
U.S. race war in the 1990s.

Also among its readers are prosecutors who trace similarities between 
events in the book and real-life crimes, including the Oklahoma City 
bombing, the murder of Denver radio talk-show host Alan BERG and the Utah 
odyssey of a man who helped rob an armored car.

Until now, readers have had to special-order the book from West 
Virginia's National Vanguard. But within the next few weeks, Lyle 
Stuart's Barricade Books will begin shipping a newly printed edition to 
bookstores around the nation.

Bookstores are ordering the new edition, despite appeals from the 
Southern Poverty Law Center and The American Jewish Committee. Those 
groups noted that some proceeds from the book will finance Pierce's neo-
Nazi group.

"The book clearly has been used to promote domestic terrorism," said 
Kenneth STERN, an expert on anti-Semitism who wrote to booksellers on 
behalf of The American Jewish Committee.

In the early 1980s, the group The Order patterned itself after the 
fictional "Organization" of The Turner Diaries. And Page 38 of the book, 
which recounts the fictional bombing of a building in Washington, D.C., 
mirrors the April 19, 1995, bombing in Oklahoma City that killed 168 
people.

The book figured prominently in the 1985 Utah trial of white supremacist 
Michael Stanley Norris, who was convicted of being an accessory after the 
fact in a $3.6 million armored-car robbery in California. Norris had 
acted as lookout as The Order robbers fled through Utah.

Leaders of The Order, a violent splinter group of the Aryan Nations, 
recruited members such as Norris with the question, "How would you like 
to live the life of Earl Turner?"

The fictional Turner is a member of the Organization, which overthrows 
the U.S. government and ultimately rules a white world. The Organization 
launches its revolution after the JEWISH-run "System" confiscates private 
guns. At the book's close, cities are littered with the bodies of 
minorities, federal judges, Jews and white women who "betrayed their 
race" by marrying Jewish men.

Stern said the book should be titled: "How to Start a Program of Killing .
... Jews." Then people would understand what it really is about.

The apocalypse depicted in The Turner Diaries is no surprise as the new 
millennium approaches, said University of Utah history Professor Robert 
Goldberg. Books that foretold a U.S. governmental collapse or shift in 
power also emerged in the late 1800s.

"As we approach the end of the millennium, you're going to see an
intensification of these kinds of books and unfortunately this kind of 
thinking," said GOLDBERG, author of "Hooded Empire: The Ku Klux Klan in 
Colorado." He has read "The Turner Diaries."

Part of what makes "The Turner Diaries" so popular among Whites
is its utility as a manual, he said. Because of its use as a guidebook, 
Stern likens "The Turner Diaries" to "The Anarchist Cookbook," which 
Stuart's Barricade Books also published.
Bookstores have the right to sell it, he said, but they should consider 
the consequences.

Stuart, who declined to be interviewed, argues in a foreword to "The 
Turner Diaries" that "we have a right to know what the enemy is thinking. 
This book will tell you that. In ways it may infuriate you."

What Stuart doesn't say in his foreword is that "The Turner Diaries" also 
may bore readers. Ten years after he prosecuted Norris, now-U.S. 
Magistrate Samuel Alba remembers nothing of the book except that it is 
poorly written and "weird."








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Date: Wednesday, 08-May-96 06:16 AM

_Reds' Owner Criticized For Comments About Hitler_ (ANA)

Marge Schott, owner of the Cincinnati Reds baseball team, has come under 
fire from jewish groups for her recent comment that Hitler "went too far.
" In an interview for ESPN that aired Sunday night Schott said about 
Hitler's leadership:  "Everything you read, when he came in he was good.  
They built tremendous highways and got all the factories going.  He went 
nuts, he went berserk.  I think his own generals tried to kill him, 
didn't they? Everybody knows he was good at the beginning, but he just 
went too far." The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the American Jewish 
Congress (AJC) have asked baseball officials to take action against 
Schott for her comments.  Phil Baum of the AJC called Schott a "crude and 
thoughtless woman [who] has now reached a new low."  Ken Jacobson of the 
ADL called the comments "profoundly ignorant" and "offensive."  Schott 
was suspended for the 1993 season for making "racial" and "ethnic" slurs 
and had to undergo sensitivity training.

   =====

Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Date: Thursday, 09-May-96 05:36 PM

Thursday, April 18, 1996 - The NEWS-JOURNAL - 5C

Scholar rebuts Holocaust deniers

                By GINA GINSBURG
                News-Journal Correspondent
    ORMOND  BEACH  -  Holocaust  revisionism, the movement to deny the
breadth of the holcaust, "is not about history," said Marc Pollick, a 
guest lecturer at the Yom Hashoah Holocaust Memorial Observance.
    Pollick spoke Sunday night at the Ormond Beach Performing Arts 
Center
as part of a community-wide memorial service.
    The new antisemitism - people who deny the holocaust - is a slick,
well-financed movement with clear motives and a distinct political agenda,

Pollick said.
    Their motives are to attack Jewish history and memory, rehabilitate
the Nazi regime and attack and undermine Israel, he said.
    "Their agenda is to resurrect Nazism " Pollick said, and they are
"dangerous because they have learned to mainstream themselves."
    As an example, Pollick told the audience about an organization 
called
the Institute for Historical Review, which produces many scholarly 
looking
publications denying the Holocaust ever happened.
    Pollick, who is from Boston and a doctoral candidate in holocaust
studies, said holocaust deniers try to argue that there was never a 
single
document outlining the plan to exterminate the Jews. They claim the 6 
million deaths were caused only by disease and harsh conditions in the 
concentration camps rather than by gas chambers.
    The Germans, however, were meticulous at record keeping and had an
identification number for every Jew sent to the camps, Pollick said The
holocaust deniers fail to tell about warehouses full of documentation as
well as the lists of names at the Yad Vashem Memorial Museum in Jerusalem.

    Pollick urged everyone to hear stories, first hand, from survivors of 
the contration Camps.
    He quoted survivor and Nobel winner Elie Wiesel and said to use 
"truth
and memory as weapons" to fight against igorance and hate.
"If you can deny the holocaust, then no history is safe," Pollick said.
    Holocaust survivors were asked to come forward to light a candle, and 
then eventually all the pro- gram participants and audience members held 
a lit candle before silently leaving the auditorium.
    "The children today are so far removed from this," said Marilyn 
Richard,
whose mother and father were both holcaust survivors. "The memory has to 
go
on and impact the next generation."
    The memorial observance was sponsored by the Jewish Federation of
Volusia and Flagler counties in conjunction with Temple Beth El, Ormond
Beach, Temple Israel, Day- tona Beach, and Temple Beth Shalom, Palm Coast.

------------------------------------------------------------
It would be well to note that the j*wish conspiracy invented the idea of 
revisionism, particularly as it applies to the curriculum being taught in 
our nation's schools. An example of their revisionism is the undermining 
of traditional beliefs previously taught in this country such as honoring 
Christopher Columbus. To scatter our heritage, they teach Columbus was a 
purveyor of genocide against the indigenous American Indians, raping, 
stealing and killing.
    -Ed
Submitted by Slayer




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun May 26 15:36:42 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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05/23/96
Beit Horon, West Bank
Israel

Subject: Americans join Israeli army.

Two American females have graduated from basic training here. They are 
members of the first all-female conbat unit isnce 1948, One from 
Washington refused to give her name. The other, Yifat Liva from Los 
Angeles, said, "My dream was always to come here and join the army."

The graduates belong to the border police, a paramilitary unit of the 
national police. They will perform all the tasks of men, except for 
patrolling the West Bank where duties are shared with the army for 
containing Palestinian unrest.
*******************************************

Bedford, Va.
05/23/96

An elementary teacher here took a copy of Limbaugh's book _The Way Things 
Ought to Be_ from a 4th-grader and is getting a lot of flak for that. The 
book was open to Chapter 12 _Condoms: The New Diplomas_. The principal 
agreed, "The page was open to a story about bungee-jumping condoms."

Limbaugh is hollering censorship and the school was swamped with 'phone 
calls. The principal said, "My secretary was called a Communist." But of 
course, it's OK for j*ws in New Jersey to invite a guest to a school's 
'diversity day' who puts a condom on a purple phallis with her mouth in 
front of 400 kids. One is politically correct, Rush isn't.
*******************************************

"Watch my lips," seems to be a growing infectiion in Washington. Clinton 
won the election like so many politicians with promises in particular to 
the vocal but small segments of sickos in society. He can't even keep his 
word to them. Clinton's spokesman on 05/22/96 said Slick Willie would 
sign legislation to outlaw faggot marriages. "The president would sign 
that bill if it was presented to him as it's currently written," said 
Mike McCurry. "The predident doesn't have objections to the two things 
the bill does. One, it says that no state is forced to recognize another 
state's codification of the union. And then the second thing it does is 
it says that marriage is a union between a single man and a single woman.
"

The bill would give states authority to reject the legality of same-sex 
marriages performed in another state.
********************************************

04/12/96
Mount Holly , NJ

67-year old Dr. edward FLEISCHMAN was indicted for fondling the derriers 
of female patients. He can go to prison for 15 years. The married doctor 
was arrested after victims charged he grabbed, rubbed and kissed them 
during examinations, said Burlington County prosecutor Steven Raymond. He 
also made suggestive comments.

On every occasion FLEISCHMAN would move the patient's gown so he could 
see their buttocks, then start to engage in inappropriate rubbing. each 
of the 10 counts carries a maximum of 18 months in prison and a $7500 
fine. The sentences may run consecutively because each count of the 
indictment charges FLEISCHMAN with separate incidents, Raymond said.

FLEISCHMAN continues to practice at his Church Road office. The good 
doctor was arrested last year for rubbing hi9s groin against a 25-year-
old female's rear. The state Board of Medical Examiners prohibited him 
>from  seeing any female patients and required him to pay a licensed 
practitioner to be present for the examination of male patients, said 
Rita Malley, the Board's sppokeswoman. The doctor had also faced 
sanctions prior to that incident. In 1987 FLEISCHMAN was suspended for 
regularly engaging "in professional misconduct with female patients by 
taking sexual liberties with them physically".




From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun May 26 15:36:43 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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>>The ADL issued a report shortly before the Oklahoma City bombing, 
warning
>>that April 19 had a special meaning to certain far-right militants, 
and
>>that an attack on a Government facility was likely.  If we all had 
paid
>>attention to the ADL report, the most important right of many Oklahoma
>>City residents (their right to life) could have been preserved.

Big error. Most likely the ADL and JDL are involved. They always seem to 
know about things like this in advance. Listening to them would be like 
listening to the toilet flush.

Sandra



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>
>I strongly suggest the ADL investigate the FBI and other gov't agencies
>for their failure to act on the confidential information provide from a
>senior militia leader.

Again, like sending the Fox to investigate chicken behavior.



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>: The ADL's concern is that some militia groups are run by anti-Semites,

>: even though the membership in those militias, by and large, don't
>: necessarily share those views. 

The ADL's concern is that many militias are based in Christian theology.

Why isn't the ADL concerned about non-Christian militias? Why did the 
gov't listen to them re: Weaver and Waco?? Not because they were j*wish 
tribes, but because they were ARMED Christians!
And how about the JDL militia in NY state?? Not a word about that one.



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun May 26 17:34:59 PDT 1996
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>--
>Harry Katz
>
>An Israelite is prohibited from deceiving even an idolator.
>	-- The Wit and Wisdom of the Talmud, Madison C. Peters, ed.

Since 'American j*ws' are the biggest source of deception, this would 
prove they are not of the House of Israel. Probably Kulaks.



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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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>Which is it:  Should we be ashamed for killing too many Jews or ashamed
>for letting too many of them live?
>
>-Ahlf

The latter would seem to be appropriate. The alleged survivors are meting 
out punishment to Americans via social degeneration in a manner unheard 
of throughout history. Be assured their beloved '6,000,000' can become a 
reality tomorrow.



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>>Anyway...  Just for the record, why don't you lay out your views on the 

>>Holocaust. 


"Holocaust?? What's a holocaust?" 

-Heard from the ' little kids on our block.'   God bless their parents!



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>The fact is that while the scrolls languished under "Israeli
>auspices" it was in fact being jealously and zealously guarded by a
>research team headed up by a Christian, whose name I do not recall.


Naturally, you 'do not recall' the name. There is no such person. And 
Huber didn't post the article. Get your heads out of the zion cesspool.

Sandra



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 the lies come easily to his/her/its pen, but the
>explanations later seem lacking. H*ber is a liar, plain and
>simple, no matter which userid-of-the-month he uses to express
>himself.

Huber responded to you three times and the mail came back as 
automatically returned and unread by your mail program. Your lies are 
offensive to all Gentiles and Blacks.

He only uses one ID. 

You have apparently run out of excuses for not addressing the issues, 
since you now lambaste his punctuation, spelling and parental heritage. I 
guess you have no answers with which to refute the truth.

Sandra



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>At the end of February 1945 I was called with Dr. Trommer to the
>office of the camp commandant, Sturmbannfuehrer Suhren. Suhren
>informed us that he had received an order from Reichsfuehrer Himmler
>to liquidate all the women who were sick or unable to walk. 

So?? This was compassioinate euthanasia. Dr. Kevorkian would just love it.




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>
>     It is not a question of how many died without gassing rather 
>the miracle that so many survived with gassing.

Nice add-on. Giwer, with so many eyewitnesses and survivors, one HAS to 
wonder, "Where are the victims?"




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>
>
>>>Giwer, does it ever accure to you to wonder why some innocent little 
>>>girl like Anne Frank had to die like that?
>>>Chuckles

anne FRANK is hereself a FRAUD, like the alleged 6,000,000. The novel was 
used & abused for political gain & sympathy by the j*ws who saw 
opportunity.



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>
>ezundel@alpha.c2.org (E. Zundel Repost) writes:
>
>>I haven't yet read the Goldhagen book, "Hitler's Willing Executioners:
>>Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust," but many people urged me to 
respond to
>>the flagrant literary smear, and so I thought I would let Hans Schmidt 
do
>>it for me because he has had some "hands-on experience" with having 
used a
>>careless pen, and he has done considerable "study" on this topic.
>
>Schmidt's words fail to point out a single "smear"; the fail to quote
>Goldhagen at all, indeed show no first-hand acquaintance with 
Goldhagen's
>book.

Historian Paul Johnson and j*w KLEMPERER also refute the viability of 
GOLDHAGEN's novel.



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 27 12:18:25 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Re: GOLDHAGEN's book & H*ber's lies
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>>I've just finished reading Goldhagen's book, by the way, and my copy 
>>doesn't include anything about his blaming "all Germans, even little 
>>babies."  He does discuss German police and army units who, without any 

>>apparent qualms, regularly shot little babies because they were Jewish. 
 
>>Perhaps you confused the two.

The entire first quarter of the book is devoted to what GOLDHAGEN refers 
to as "the evolution of elimination antisemitism" within the German 
populace, a people who hardly ever resorted to violence out of uniform.  
The book was written from a particularly jaundiced view, not taking in 
the wider scope of European attitudes, and particularly suspect in that 
no mention of the Austrians is made. Austrians killed half of the j*ws 
who died during WWII.

The book is, therefore, a zionist production novel.



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 27 12:46:44 PDT 1996
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Date: Thursday, 09-May-96 05:36 PM

Thursday, April 18, 1996 - The NEWS-JOURNAL - 5C

Scholar rebuts Holocaust deniers

                By GINA GINSBURG
                News-Journal Correspondent
    ORMOND  BEACH  -  Holocaust  revisionism, the movement to deny the
breadth of the holcaust, "is not about history," said Marc Pollick, a 
guest lecturer at the Yom Hashoah Holocaust Memorial Observance.
    Pollick spoke Sunday night at the Ormond Beach Performing Arts 
Center
as part of a community-wide memorial service.
    The new antisemitism - people who deny the holocaust - is a slick,
well-financed movement with clear motives and a distinct political agenda,

Pollick said.
    Their motives are to attack Jewish history and memory, rehabilitate
the Nazi regime and attack and undermine Israel, he said.
    "Their agenda is to resurrect Nazism " Pollick said, and they are
"dangerous because they have learned to mainstream themselves."
    As an example, Pollick told the audience about an organization 
called
the Institute for Historical Review, which produces many scholarly 
looking
publications denying the Holocaust ever happened.
    Pollick, who is from Boston and a doctoral candidate in holocaust
studies, said holocaust deniers try to argue that there was never a 
single
document outlining the plan to exterminate the Jews. They claim the 6 
million deaths were caused only by disease and harsh conditions in the 
concentration camps rather than by gas chambers.
    The Germans, however, were meticulous at record keeping and had an
identification number for every Jew sent to the camps, Pollick said The
holocaust deniers fail to tell about warehouses full of documentation as
well as the lists of names at the Yad Vashem Memorial Museum in Jerusalem.

    Pollick urged everyone to hear stories, first hand, from survivors of 
the contration Camps.
    He quoted survivor and Nobel winner Elie Wiesel and said to use 
"truth
and memory as weapons" to fight against igorance and hate.
"If you can deny the holocaust, then no history is safe," Pollick said.
    Holocaust survivors were asked to come forward to light a candle, and 
then eventually all the pro- gram participants and audience members held 
a lit candle before silently leaving the auditorium.
    "The children today are so far removed from this," said Marilyn 
Richard,
whose mother and father were both holcaust survivors. "The memory has to 
go
on and impact the next generation."
    The memorial observance was sponsored by the Jewish Federation of
Volusia and Flagler counties in conjunction with Temple Beth El, Ormond
Beach, Temple Israel, Day- tona Beach, and Temple Beth Shalom, Palm Coast.

------------------------------------------------------------
It would be well to note that the j*wish conspiracy invented the idea of 
revisionism, particularly as it applies to the curriculum being taught in 
our nation's schools. An example of their revisionism is the undermining 
of traditional beliefs previously taught in this country such as honoring 
Christopher Columbus. To scatter our heritage, they teach Columbus was a 
purveyor of genocide against the indigenous American Indians, raping, 
stealing and killing.
    -Ed
Submitted by Slayer




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05/16/96
Hohenhausen Guild
New York

Subject: Jews and wasting your taxes; social destruction

NY State Supreme Court Judge Helen FREEDMAN is encouraging homelessness 
by ordering the Giuliani administration to spend $150 "for the benefit" 
of each and every family CLAIMING to be homeless and forced to stay more 
than one night in the Bronx's Emergency Assistance Unit. The unit is a 
temporary reception center for people awaiting placement in the shelter 
system.

The city estimates direct payments to OSTENSIBLY homeless families will 
cost New York over $1 million.

The ruling goes further, to be sure. Indeed , it stands to evicerate City 
Hall's effort to bring some order to the long-chaotic system. Judge 
FREEDMAN is determined to impose her PERSONAL belief that all who declare 
themselves homeless have an unconditional right to taxpayer-funded 
housing. FREEDMAN's intervention could spell fiscal disaster.

FREEDMAN has previously held city officials in contempt for failing to 
place new arrivals in shelters, no questions asked. The Dept of Homeless 
Services has limited recipients to those referred by Social Services. The 
court order guts this pattern and serves those who show up for criminal 
activities (drug-dealing and robbery), as well as those are not actually 
homeless.

Attorneys say they will appeal, however, officials of FREEDMANS ilk 
constantly blast the system with consent decrees which undermine sound 
public policy.




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05/16/96
Hohenhausen Guild
New York

Subject: Jews and wasting your taxes; social destruction

NY State Supreme Court Judge Helen FREEDMAN is encouraging homelessness 
by ordering the Giuliani administration to spend $150 "for the benefit" 
of each and every family CLAIMING to be homeless and forced to stay more 
than one night in the Bronx's Emergency Assistance Unit. The unit is a 
temporary reception center for people awaiting placement in the shelter 
system.

The city estimates direct payments to OSTENSIBLY homeless families will 
cost New York over $1 million.

The ruling goes further, to be sure. Indeed , it stands to evicerate City 
Hall's effort to bring some order to the long-chaotic system. Judge 
FREEDMAN is determined to impose her PERSONAL belief that all who declare 
themselves homeless have an unconditional right to taxpayer-funded 
housing. FREEDMAN's intervention could spell fiscal disaster.

FREEDMAN has previously held city officials in contempt for failing to 
place new arrivals in shelters, no questions asked. The Dept of Homeless 
Services has limited recipients to those referred by Social Services. The 
court order guts this pattern and serves those who show up for criminal 
activities (drug-dealing and robbery), as well as those are not actually 
homeless.

Attorneys say they will appeal, however, officials of FREEDMANS ilk 
constantly blast the system with consent decrees which undermine sound 
public policy.




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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: no holocaust say eyewitness j*w
Date: 26 May 1996 17:09:38 GMT
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Date: Thursday, 09-May-96 05:36 PM

Thursday, April 18, 1996 - The NEWS-JOURNAL - 5C

Scholar rebuts Holocaust deniers

                By GINA GINSBURG
                News-Journal Correspondent
    ORMOND  BEACH  -  Holocaust  revisionism, the movement to deny the
breadth of the holcaust, "is not about history," said Marc Pollick, a 
guest lecturer at the Yom Hashoah Holocaust Memorial Observance.
    Pollick spoke Sunday night at the Ormond Beach Performing Arts 
Center
as part of a community-wide memorial service.
    The new antisemitism - people who deny the holocaust - is a slick,
well-financed movement with clear motives and a distinct political agenda,

Pollick said.
    Their motives are to attack Jewish history and memory, rehabilitate
the Nazi regime and attack and undermine Israel, he said.
    "Their agenda is to resurrect Nazism " Pollick said, and they are
"dangerous because they have learned to mainstream themselves."
    As an example, Pollick told the audience about an organization 
called
the Institute for Historical Review, which produces many scholarly 
looking
publications denying the Holocaust ever happened.
    Pollick, who is from Boston and a doctoral candidate in holocaust
studies, said holocaust deniers try to argue that there was never a 
single
document outlining the plan to exterminate the Jews. They claim the 6 
million deaths were caused only by disease and harsh conditions in the 
concentration camps rather than by gas chambers.
    The Germans, however, were meticulous at record keeping and had an
identification number for every Jew sent to the camps, Pollick said The
holocaust deniers fail to tell about warehouses full of documentation as
well as the lists of names at the Yad Vashem Memorial Museum in Jerusalem.

    Pollick urged everyone to hear stories, first hand, from survivors of 
the contration Camps.
    He quoted survivor and Nobel winner Elie Wiesel and said to use 
"truth
and memory as weapons" to fight against igorance and hate.
"If you can deny the holocaust, then no history is safe," Pollick said.
    Holocaust survivors were asked to come forward to light a candle, and 
then eventually all the pro- gram participants and audience members held 
a lit candle before silently leaving the auditorium.
    "The children today are so far removed from this," said Marilyn 
Richard,
whose mother and father were both holcaust survivors. "The memory has to 
go
on and impact the next generation."
    The memorial observance was sponsored by the Jewish Federation of
Volusia and Flagler counties in conjunction with Temple Beth El, Ormond
Beach, Temple Israel, Day- tona Beach, and Temple Beth Shalom, Palm Coast.

------------------------------------------------------------
It would be well to note that the j*wish conspiracy invented the idea of 
revisionism, particularly as it applies to the curriculum being taught in 
our nation's schools. An example of their revisionism is the undermining 
of traditional beliefs previously taught in this country such as honoring 
Christopher Columbus. To scatter our heritage, they teach Columbus was a 
purveyor of genocide against the indigenous American Indians, raping, 
stealing and killing.
    -Ed
Submitted by Slayer




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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: j*wsbriefs # 804
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05/23/96
Beit Horon, West Bank
Israel

Subject: Americans join Israeli army.

Two American females have graduated from basic training here. They are 
members of the first all-female conbat unit isnce 1948, One from 
Washington refused to give her name. The other, Yifat Liva from Los 
Angeles, said, "My dream was always to come here and join the army."

The graduates belong to the border police, a paramilitary unit of the 
national police. They will perform all the tasks of men, except for 
patrolling the West Bank where duties are shared with the army for 
containing Palestinian unrest.
*******************************************

Bedford, Va.
05/23/96

An elementary teacher here took a copy of Limbaugh's book _The Way Things 
Ought to Be_ from a 4th-grader and is getting a lot of flak for that. The 
book was open to Chapter 12 _Condoms: The New Diplomas_. The principal 
agreed, "The page was open to a story about bungee-jumping condoms."

Limbaugh is hollering censorship and the school was swamped with 'phone 
calls. The principal said, "My secretary was called a Communist." But of 
course, it's OK for j*ws in New Jersey to invite a guest to a school's 
'diversity day' who puts a condom on a purple phallis with her mouth in 
front of 400 kids. One is politically correct, Rush isn't.
*******************************************

"Watch my lips," seems to be a growing infectiion in Washington. Clinton 
won the election like so many politicians with promises in particular to 
the vocal but small segments of sickos in society. He can't even keep his 
word to them. Clinton's spokesman on 05/22/96 said Slick Willie would 
sign legislation to outlaw faggot marriages. "The president would sign 
that bill if it was presented to him as it's currently written," said 
Mike McCurry. "The predident doesn't have objections to the two things 
the bill does. One, it says that no state is forced to recognize another 
state's codification of the union. And then the second thing it does is 
it says that marriage is a union between a single man and a single woman.
"

The bill would give states authority to reject the legality of same-sex 
marriages performed in another state.
********************************************

04/12/96
Mount Holly , NJ

67-year old Dr. edward FLEISCHMAN was indicted for fondling the derriers 
of female patients. He can go to prison for 15 years. The married doctor 
was arrested after victims charged he grabbed, rubbed and kissed them 
during examinations, said Burlington County prosecutor Steven Raymond. He 
also made suggestive comments.

On every occasion FLEISCHMAN would move the patient's gown so he could 
see their buttocks, then start to engage in inappropriate rubbing. each 
of the 10 counts carries a maximum of 18 months in prison and a $7500 
fine. The sentences may run consecutively because each count of the 
indictment charges FLEISCHMAN with separate incidents, Raymond said.

FLEISCHMAN continues to practice at his Church Road office. The good 
doctor was arrested last year for rubbing hi9s groin against a 25-year-
old female's rear. The state Board of Medical Examiners prohibited him 
>from  seeing any female patients and required him to pay a licensed 
practitioner to be present for the examination of male patients, said 
Rita Malley, the Board's sppokeswoman. The doctor had also faced 
sanctions prior to that incident. In 1987 FLEISCHMAN was suspended for 
regularly engaging "in professional misconduct with female patients by 
taking sexual liberties with them physically".




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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: j*ws fight Turner Diaries...why??
Date: 26 May 1996 17:08:07 GMT
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Date: Tuesday, 14-May-96 09:09 AM

Novel is coming out of hiding_ (Scripps-McClatchy Western Service)

(May 14, 1996 00:06 a.m. EDT) "The Turner Diaries" is a dreadful book. 
"The Turner Diaries" is a bigoted book. It is ignorant. It may make 
readers sick to the stomach.

And that's according to the book's publisher, who this month will enable 
more Americans to buy what the FBI considers the bible of white 
supremacists.

The novel, written by William Pierce, has been an underground
best-seller for nearly two decades. Most of the nearly 200,000 copies 
sold belong to Aryans who thrill to the fictional account of a climactic 
U.S. race war in the 1990s.

Also among its readers are prosecutors who trace similarities between 
events in the book and real-life crimes, including the Oklahoma City 
bombing, the murder of Denver radio talk-show host Alan BERG and the Utah 
odyssey of a man who helped rob an armored car.

Until now, readers have had to special-order the book from West 
Virginia's National Vanguard. But within the next few weeks, Lyle 
Stuart's Barricade Books will begin shipping a newly printed edition to 
bookstores around the nation.

Bookstores are ordering the new edition, despite appeals from the 
Southern Poverty Law Center and The American Jewish Committee. Those 
groups noted that some proceeds from the book will finance Pierce's neo-
Nazi group.

"The book clearly has been used to promote domestic terrorism," said 
Kenneth STERN, an expert on anti-Semitism who wrote to booksellers on 
behalf of The American Jewish Committee.

In the early 1980s, the group The Order patterned itself after the 
fictional "Organization" of The Turner Diaries. And Page 38 of the book, 
which recounts the fictional bombing of a building in Washington, D.C., 
mirrors the April 19, 1995, bombing in Oklahoma City that killed 168 
people.

The book figured prominently in the 1985 Utah trial of white supremacist 
Michael Stanley Norris, who was convicted of being an accessory after the 
fact in a $3.6 million armored-car robbery in California. Norris had 
acted as lookout as The Order robbers fled through Utah.

Leaders of The Order, a violent splinter group of the Aryan Nations, 
recruited members such as Norris with the question, "How would you like 
to live the life of Earl Turner?"

The fictional Turner is a member of the Organization, which overthrows 
the U.S. government and ultimately rules a white world. The Organization 
launches its revolution after the JEWISH-run "System" confiscates private 
guns. At the book's close, cities are littered with the bodies of 
minorities, federal judges, Jews and white women who "betrayed their 
race" by marrying Jewish men.

Stern said the book should be titled: "How to Start a Program of Killing .
... Jews." Then people would understand what it really is about.

The apocalypse depicted in The Turner Diaries is no surprise as the new 
millennium approaches, said University of Utah history Professor Robert 
Goldberg. Books that foretold a U.S. governmental collapse or shift in 
power also emerged in the late 1800s.

"As we approach the end of the millennium, you're going to see an
intensification of these kinds of books and unfortunately this kind of 
thinking," said GOLDBERG, author of "Hooded Empire: The Ku Klux Klan in 
Colorado." He has read "The Turner Diaries."

Part of what makes "The Turner Diaries" so popular among Whites
is its utility as a manual, he said. Because of its use as a guidebook, 
Stern likens "The Turner Diaries" to "The Anarchist Cookbook," which 
Stuart's Barricade Books also published.
Bookstores have the right to sell it, he said, but they should consider 
the consequences.

Stuart, who declined to be interviewed, argues in a foreword to "The 
Turner Diaries" that "we have a right to know what the enemy is thinking. 
This book will tell you that. In ways it may infuriate you."

What Stuart doesn't say in his foreword is that "The Turner Diaries" also 
may bore readers. Ten years after he prosecuted Norris, now-U.S. 
Magistrate Samuel Alba remembers nothing of the book except that it is 
poorly written and "weird."








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Date: Wednesday, 08-May-96 06:16 AM

_Reds' Owner Criticized For Comments About Hitler_ (ANA)

Marge Schott, owner of the Cincinnati Reds baseball team, has come under 
fire from jewish groups for her recent comment that Hitler "went too far.
" In an interview for ESPN that aired Sunday night Schott said about 
Hitler's leadership:  "Everything you read, when he came in he was good.  
They built tremendous highways and got all the factories going.  He went 
nuts, he went berserk.  I think his own generals tried to kill him, 
didn't they? Everybody knows he was good at the beginning, but he just 
went too far." The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the American Jewish 
Congress (AJC) have asked baseball officials to take action against 
Schott for her comments.  Phil Baum of the AJC called Schott a "crude and 
thoughtless woman [who] has now reached a new low."  Ken Jacobson of the 
ADL called the comments "profoundly ignorant" and "offensive."  Schott 
was suspended for the 1993 season for making "racial" and "ethnic" slurs 
and had to undergo sensitivity training.

   =====

Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor
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rich@c2.org (Rich Graves) wrote:
>
>joebuck@ix.netcom.com(Charles) writes:
>>In <4nu12j$59m@newsbf02.news.aol.com> jbrolin546@aol.com (JBrolin546)
>>writes: 
>
>Who cares; it's not on topic for *any* of the groups to which it was
>posted, none of which the JBrolin troller reads. This belongs in
>talk.politics.mideast, to which this article was spammed some time ago,
>and which has a healthy discussion on this topic.  Followups set there.
>
>-rich
> ht

rich GRAVES, the protector of our readerships, typically calling anything 
he disagrees with "not on topic." The only thing not on topic here is 
j*ws, who should be moderated from posting here.



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 27 12:58:12 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Re: j*wsbriefs # 802
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>Ha ha ha. It's so cute when you guys miss that Farrakhan
>is really our agent. It took forever to teach him the violin.
>
>We fly him to his speaking engagements on the black helicopters.
>I should know -- I've sat next to him several times.
>
>/stern
>-- 
>*************************************************************************
*****
>   We'll add creationism to science textbooks  * stern@empowerment.com
>  just as soon as you add Darwin to the Bible  * http://www.panix.
com/~stern/
>*************************************************************************
*****

STERN, so typical a j*w: you are part & parcel of the problems in America 
today. Farrakhan is wise to your deception. Soon the Black masses in the 
streets will understand THE WORD. Your exodus will begin. Be sure to wrap 
your SHEKELS for a quick get-a-way. Maybe put them in a Swiss bank??

Sandra



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 27 12:58:13 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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jabowery@netcom.com (Jim Bowery) wrote:
>
>stonet (stonet@pathcom.com) wrote:
>: Luther signed the end of Christianity as we know it.  It stopped being 
a 
>: relevant religion and splittered off into self serving political 
organisation 
>: with a history of control fetish freaks.
>
>The central authorities always decry the absence of unity.
>
>Talk about control freaks...
>
>[... various examples that support my earlier statements ...]
>
>: Sophistry is so easy to denigrate.
>
>Well, in your case, it appears sophistry is very easy to generate.

This in-fighting is why you are under j*wish control, pal.

Sandra



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 27 12:58:14 PDT 1996
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>
>Wish you all the best John.
>
>There's nothing else I can do from where I am except suicide of one
>sort or the other.  I don't know jack shit, but as far as I can see,
>the FBI is ONLY interested in serving their plutocrat masters.
>
>The Freemen may end up headed for martyrdom one of these days.
>
>I wish I could do more.


You can do something. Get personally involved, even if only financially 
or on the net by posting. Doing nothing will result in your coming for 
help when it is too late. You WILL be next, as has been said.

Sandra



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 27 12:58:15 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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>
>So.... What did the British ever do for us other than build our roads, 
>bring law and order, build our railways, bring us medicine, invent the 
>steam engine, educate us, invent the jet engine, invent the petrol 
engine 
>....
>
>
>at this point I will save you having to read about 30,000,000 things 
that 
>those SHITS the BRITS did for the rest of the world.

As long as you White guys keep arguing, the j*ws will stay in control 
over YOU. In the tratoriously enlightening words of yitzhak SHAMIR, "As 
long as they are fighting each other, no one looks at us." (responding to 
the charge that israel was arming both Iraq AND Iran.]



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 27 12:58:15 PDT 1996
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: Re: If it quacks like a duck Was: Pat Buchanan has sold us out.
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>
>Have a look at the Pat Buchannan site http://www.buchanan.org/
>Interesting eh? NAZI propaganda was scarcely less direct.
>
>Note the use of the term "Buchanan Brigades" more than a hint of
>Mosely's Black shirts. Also note the pages describing how to stuff
>online ballots in favour of Pat.
>
>Note that the site concentrates almost exclusively on immigration 
issues
>and abortion. Education gets only a solitary mention and that in
>relation to pushing rightwing propaganda into schools. What is Pat's
>policy on funding for schools? Improving teacher training? Curriculum
>development? 

What are you bitching about?? Buchanan merely sees the j*wish agenda 
destroying the social fabric of this country. 



From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon May 27 14:14:33 PDT 1996
Article: 75691 of soc.culture.german
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From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber)
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Subject: eyewitness j*w rebukes holocaust
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Date: Thursday, 09-May-96 05:36 PM

Thursday, April 18, 1996 - The NEWS-JOURNAL - 5C

Scholar rebuts Holocaust deniers

                By GINA GINSBURG
                News-Journal Correspondent
    ORMOND  BEACH  -  Holocaust  revisionism, the movement to deny the
breadth of the holcaust, "is not about history," said Marc Pollick, a 
guest lecturer at the Yom Hashoah Holocaust Memorial Observance.
    Pollick spoke Sunday night at the Ormond Beach Performing Arts 
Center
as part of a community-wide memorial service.
    The new antisemitism - people who deny the holocaust - is a slick,
well-financed movement with clear motives and a distinct political agenda,

Pollick said.
    Their motives are to attack Jewish history and memory, rehabilitate
the Nazi regime and attack and undermine Israel, he said.
    "Their agenda is to resurrect Nazism " Pollick said, and they are
"dangerous because they have learned to mainstream themselves."
    As an example, Pollick told the audience about an organization 
called
the Institute for Historical Review, which produces many scholarly 
looking
publications denying the Holocaust ever happened.
    Pollick, who is from Boston and a doctoral candidate in holocaust
studies, said holocaust deniers try to argue that there was never a 
single
document outlining the plan to exterminate the Jews. They claim the 6 
million deaths were caused only by disease and harsh conditions in the 
concentration camps rather than by gas chambers.
    The Germans, however, were meticulous at record keeping and had an
identification number for every Jew sent to the camps, Pollick said The
holocaust deniers fail to tell about warehouses full of documentation as
well as the lists of names at the Yad Vashem Memorial Museum in Jerusalem.

    Pollick urged everyone to hear stories, first hand, from survivors of 
the contration Camps.
    He quoted survivor and Nobel winner Elie Wiesel and said to use 
"truth
and memory as weapons" to fight against igorance and hate.
"If you can deny the holocaust, then no history is safe," Pollick said.
    Holocaust survivors were asked to come forward to light a candle, and 
then eventually all the pro- gram participants and audience members held 
a lit candle before silently leaving the auditorium.
    "The children today are so far removed from this," said Marilyn 
Richard,
whose mother and father were both holcaust survivors. "The memory has to 
go
on and impact the next generation."
    The memorial observance was sponsored by the Jewish Federation of
Volusia and Flagler counties in conjunction with Temple Beth El, Ormond
Beach, Temple Israel, Day- tona Beach, and Temple Beth Shalom, Palm Coast.

------------------------------------------------------------
It would be well to note that the j*wish conspiracy invented the idea of 
revisionism, particularly as it applies to the curriculum being taught in 
our nation's schools. An example of their revisionism is the undermining 
of traditional beliefs previously taught in this country such as honoring 
Christopher Columbus. To scatter our heritage, they teach Columbus was a 
purveyor of genocide against the indigenous American Indians, raping, 
stealing and killing.
    -Ed
Submitted by Slayer




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05/16/96
Hohenhausen Guild
New York

Subject: wasting your taxes; social destruction; political correctness

NY State Supreme Court Judge Helen FREEDMAN is encouraging homelessness 
by ordering the Giuliani administration to spend $150 "for the benefit" 
of each and every family CLAIMING to be homeless and forced to stay more 
than one night in the Bronx's Emergency Assistance Unit. The unit is a 
temporary reception center for people awaiting placement in the shelter 
system.

The city estimates direct payments to OSTENSIBLY homeless families will 
cost New York over $1 million.

The ruling goes further, to be sure. Indeed , it stands to evicerate City 
Hall's effort to bring some order to the long-chaotic system. Judge 
FREEDMAN is determined to impose her PERSONAL belief that all who declare 
themselves homeless have an unconditional right to taxpayer-funded 
housing. FREEDMAN's intervention could spell fiscal disaster.

FREEDMAN has previously held city officials in contempt for failing to 
place new arrivals in shelters, no questions asked. The Dept of Homeless 
Services has limited recipients to those referred by Social Services. The 
court order guts this pattern and serves those who show up for criminal 
activities (drug-dealing and robbery), as well as those are not actually 
homeless.

Attorneys say they will appeal, however, officials of FREEDMANS ilk 
constantly blast the system with consent decrees which undermine sound 
public policy.




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>
>>!>Let me get this right.
>>!>FACT -- ComBase Communications (as did Giwer)emailed VOLANT to have 
my
>>!>website taken down with threats of a lawsuit because I inferred Matt
>>!>Giwer was *associated* with them.

While you gentlemen are squabbling over one site, the honcho j*ws are in 
the process of removing ALL web-sites not pro-j*wish. SPIELBERG testified 
before Congress, but was ignored, as censorship goes against the American 
grain. Now his buddies, edgar BRONFMAN and mickey mouse EISNER are in the 
process of purchasing all major net-windows in the U.S. of A. Remember, 
too, Congress DID, however, pass the resolution proclaiming the alleged 
holocaust to be an historical fact. Soon it will be criminal to deny this 
hoax called ' holocaust.' 

Maybe we should make the 6,000,000 into a modern reality for them.

Sandra



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>
>>!That was the first thing I said about it in response to how I
>>!found out so quickly about your phone call trying to get my
>>!account cancelled.

Our solution to the j*wish question [pun intended] on the net was to make 
our site off-limits to j*ws. They are prohibited from accessing it, 
prohibited from posting to it. Our site is for discussions & postings 
relating to the holocaust lies and is for the benefit of believers, not 
detractors. Access is by subscription only.  Solves all the problems from 
the git-go. No complaints. No letters & threats to the provider. No 
flamed mailboxes. 

Sandra




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