From oneb.almanac.bc.ca!kmcvay Thu Apr 11 12:08:09 1996 Return-Path:Received: by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0u7Rix-000aQWC; Thu, 11 Apr 96 12:08 PDT Received: from oneb (oneb.almanac.bc.ca) by nizkor.almanac.bc.ca ; 11 APR 96 12:08:04 PDT Message-ID: <316D4A2F.5103@oneb.almanac.bc.ca> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:06:39 -0700 From: "Kenneth McVay, OBC" Organization: The Nizkor Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca Subject: DejaNews Document 829249426.27843:dnserver.db96q1:7511508 X-URL: http://dejanews.dejanews.com/cgi-bin/dngetdoc.html?RECNUM=7511508+SERVER=dnserver.db96q1+CONTEXT=829249426.27843 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------5D813C9366F9" Status: RO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5D813C9366F9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://dejanews.dejanews.com/cgi-bin/dngetdoc.html?RECNUM=7511508+SERVER=dnserver.db96q1+CONTEXT=829249426.27843 --------------5D813C9366F9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dngetdoc.html" [Post] [Reply] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- j*ws lead faggots (again)[still] From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Date: 1996/02/25 MessageID: 4goaih$1bko@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com#1/1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- distribution: world organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Date: Thursday, 22-Feb-96 11:07 AM _School Board Bans All Clubs To Prevent Gay Club_ (ANA) The Salt Lake City Board of Education has voted to ban all non-academic clubs in order to prevent gay high school students from forming a club. The Salt Lake City School Board voted late Tuesday (2/20/96) 4-3 in favor of banning the clubs. Members of the school board said that federal law and a US Supreme Court ruling gave them the options of either allowing all clubs or eliminating all of them. During a public hearing about this matter supporters of the gay club said teens struggling with their "sexual identity" need each other's support in a "homophobic" environment. Those against a gay club said the it would be approving immoral behavior. The governor of Utah, Mike Leavitt, said "As far as the activity, as far as the lifestyle, I'd like it not to be promoted." ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Home ] - ] [ Search ] - ] [ Contacts ] - ] [ Help ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------5D813C9366F9-- From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 13 18:34:13 PDT 1996 Article: 30863 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Brando's correct Date: 13 Apr 1996 21:07:08 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 39 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp51s$tle@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <829174164snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> <4kig8r$hre@networking.stanford.edu> <4kk3qv$hj7@wi.combase.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Radical fascist rabbi harvey FIELDS said Brando's comments were "sloppy... anti-semitism". abraham FOXMAN, nat'l director of the White-bashing ADL of b'nai b'rith said that Brando's comments were "utterly false" and called on him to apologize. Brando, who sent his kids to j*wish shule, is hardly an anti-semite. He has also been active in the civil rights movement. He called the j*ws "amazing people". No crap, Marlon! And if we were to take a scientific poll, for instance, by documenting all the sit-coms & movies on ,say, Channel 4 over a 24 hour period, would we find he was telling the truth?? Brando also said j*ws should "have a greater sensitivity about the issue of people who are suffering." This author might add that most of that suffering is CAUSED by the j*ws. Traditionally, j*wish producers have 'silently' bashed Christians by having bimbos & perpetrators of violence wear 4" high crosses as in Christina Applegate's character on "Married With Children" and the terrorist leader's character in "Under Siege". They have also slurred American Blacks by stereotyping them as drug dealers & assaulters of women. Brando is joining the ever growing ranks of Americans of all walks of life who are fed up with the destruction being perpetrated on society by j*ws. Other well known objectors to j*wish propaganda include comedian Pat Cooper & film maker Spike Lee. Cooper's career took sharp turnbacks when he refused to 'cooperate' with the thievery by j*wish agents & producers. Spike Lee said in Nashville, while addressing a group of Black students, "That's where the battle is being fought; that is how you control people's minds. As we move toward the year 2000, the most powerful nations are not those that have nuclear bombs, but those that control the media." Lee was in Nashville this week to shoot scenes for a movie "Get on the Bus." From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 13 18:34:14 PDT 1996 Article: 30869 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Spike Lee agrees with Brando Date: 13 Apr 1996 21:09:45 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 41 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp56p$im2@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4khr65$c6s@wi.combase.com> <4ki1vn$gnn@networking.stanford.edu> <4km8ae$2lt@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 a "kike". Radical fascist rabbi harvey FIELDS said Brando's comments were "sloppy... anti-semitism". abraham FOXMAN, nat'l director of the White-bashing ADL of b'nai b'rith said that Brando's comments were "utterly false" and called on him to apologize. Brando, who sent his kids to j*wish shule, is hardly an anti-semite. He has also been active in the civil rights movement. He called the j*ws "amazing people". No crap, Marlon! And if we were to take a scientific poll, for instance, by documenting all the sit-coms & movies on ,say, Channel 4 over a 24 hour period, would we find he was telling the truth?? Brando also said j*ws should "have a greater sensitivity about the issue of people who are suffering." This author might add that most of that suffering is CAUSED by the j*ws. Traditionally, j*wish producers have 'silently' bashed Christians by having bimbos & perpetrators of violence wear 4" high crosses as in Christina Applegate's character on "Married With Children" and the terrorist leader's character in "Under Siege". They have also slurred American Blacks by stereotyping them as drug dealers & assaulters of women. Brando is joining the ever growing ranks of Americans of all walks of life who are fed up with the destruction being perpetrated on society by j*ws. Other well known objectors to j*wish propaganda include comedian Pat Cooper & film maker Spike Lee. Cooper's career took sharp turnbacks when he refused to 'cooperate' with the thievery by j*wish agents & producers. Spike Lee said in Nashville, while addressing a group of Black students, "That's where the battle is being fought; that is how you control people's minds. As we move toward the year 2000, the most powerful nations are not those that have nuclear bombs, but those that control the media." Lee was in Nashville this week to shoot scenes for a movie "Get on the Bus." From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 13 18:34:15 PDT 1996 Article: 30870 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Evil Little German Babies Date: 13 Apr 1996 21:13:53 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp5eh$1340@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316a61e7.2309376@news.pacificnet.net> <4kk641$iq0@wi.combase.com> <4kkpc2$5lr@wave.rio.com> <4kl0je$3sa@wi.combase.com> <4klqbv$lua@informer1.cis.mcmaster.ca> <4kmv1t$bli@atlas.uniserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >In <4klqbv$lua@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA>, Laura Finsten > wrote: > >[snip] > >>MAJOR PAUPACY ALERT!!! This thread began as a discussion of >>Daniel Goldhagen's recently released book "Hitler's Willing >>Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust". Tom Moran has >>alleged that Goldhagen calls all Germans, even babies, "evil". This attitude doesn't phase me at all, after all, we feel the same way about j*ws. The difference is that when German babies mature, they become productive, hard working people, whereas when a j*w ages, he conspires to destroy society. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 13 18:34:15 PDT 1996 Article: 30871 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Evil Little German Babies Date: 13 Apr 1996 21:17:06 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 14 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp5ki$1gvm@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316a61e7.2309376@news.pacificnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Goldhagen's book alleging the German people in general are >> evil and willingly assisted the "Holocaust" could be the catalyst for >> revisionism in Germany. How long are they going to take being hammered >> endlessly by the Jews. >> Then with A.M.Rosenthal's escalating it into 50,000,000, whoa. >> Evidentally even granmas and granpas, babies and other little kids >> were in on it. Evil, evil little German babies. Why should everyone get so excited over this? We have learned that j*ws do this kind of escalating all the time. For instance, they increased a few normal civilian casualties of war into 6,000,000. Naturally, therefore, we expect the figures for evil Germans to escalate too. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 13 18:47:09 PDT 1996 Article: 25203 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: Clinton: ok to murder Muslims, not j*ws Date: 13 Apr 1996 20:47:32 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 121 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp3t4$1u5k@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 10-Apr-96 06:29 AM Subject: U.S. $$$ to Murder Chechens Foreign Correspondent Inside Track On World News By International Syndicated Columnist & Broadcaster Eric Margolis AMERICA ABETS RUSSIA'S CRIMES IN THE CAUCASUS NEW YORK - When I began writing three years ago about the Chechen people's seemingly impossible struggle to regain their independence after 250 years of savage Russian colonial rule, few people had ever heard of the tiny Caucasian nation of 1.2 million fierce mountaineers. Today, Chechnya is front-page news. Russian President Boris Yeltsin publically admits that failure to end the war in Chechnya may cost him re-election in June. This week, Yeltsin declared yet another cease-fire and peace plan. For the first time, Yeltsin offered to deal with the elected Chechen national leader, President Dzhokar Dudayev. But no one seemed to believe Yeltsin - except perhaps for President Clinton. In Chechnya, Russian generals openly contradicted their president, declaring the war would go on `until all the Muslim bandits are killed.' Russia's military continued its scorched earth campaign, using heavy artillery, rockets and bombs to pulverize any Chechen village, town or city deemed `unfriendly.' When the Soviet Union broke up, Chechnya declared independence. The world failed to recognized the little nation, though its people probably suffered more from Russian savagery than any other on earth. In 1944, Stalin sent 75% of the entire Chechen people to Siberian concentration camps. For the past 250 years, Russia resorted to genocide to crush attempts by Chechen to regain their independence. After Chechen fighters routed a KGB invasion force in mid- 1994, whose goal was the overthrow of President Dudayev, Moscow sent in the Russian Army in December, 1994. Since then, Russian forces have killed 40,000 Chechens and laid waste the country. Two thousand Chechen `disappeared' after being arrested by KGB and Interior Ministry units. Human rights organizations accuse Russian forces of mass executions, bloodthirsty reprisals, and widespread torture. Shockingly, President Clinton keeps supporting Russia's criminal war in Chechnya. He personally rammed a new, US $ 10.2 billion loan for Yeltsin through the IMF, half of which will go to pay for the war. Clinton even publically endorsed the war, saying that he backed Russia's need to `maintain its territorial integrity.' Last month, US Secretary of State Warren Christopher announced in Moscow that US-Russian relations were `excellent,' - at the very moment Russian forces were exterminating large numbers of Chechen civilians. While Clinton anguished on TV over terror attacks that left 63 Israelis dead, he remained mute over Soviet terrorism in Chechnya that killed 600 times more civilians. The respected Georgian writer, Melor Sturua, a columnist for the leading Russian newspaper, `Izvestia,' wrote recently of America's disgraceful silence over Chechnya: `I remember a time when the arrest of even one Soviet dissident would create a storm of indignation here(in the US). Soviet embassies were picketed, Soviet goods boycotted, Soviet crimes were condemned.' Congress imposed trade sanctions on the USSR to force it to allow Jewish emigration to Israel. Today, after Russia slaughters 42, 000 Chechens, Washington gives Moscow US $10.2 billion. A campaign of state-directed racism warns the Russian public that all Chechen are `bandits,' and `Muslim terrorists.' Traditional Russian hatred of Muslims is relentlessly whipped up, aided by the many KGB agents within the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church. The new KGB director, taking a page from Dr. Goebbels, recently declared, `The Chechen can only be a murderer, a robber, or at least a thief.' Claims by Moscow and the Clinton Administration that Russia faces national break-up if Chechnya is allowed independence are nonsense. Save for handfuls of other subject Caucasian peoples on Russia's southern edge, like Ingush, Cherkass, and Daghestanis, Russia's other autonomous-minded regions, like Tatarstan or Yakutia, are deep within Slav territory. It's time for the west to tell Russia: Stop your crimes in the Caucasus. Set the Chechens free. @copyright Eric Margolis 1996 ***************************************************** Boycott America Online, the Fed Snoop Service!! From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 13 18:47:11 PDT 1996 Article: 25204 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: goldBERG a commie Date: 13 Apr 1996 20:48:26 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 93 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp3uq$1f8k@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 10-Apr-96 04:56 AM >From "USA Today", found at: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nds7.htm ____________________________________________________ Twenty years before he became a distinguished Cabinet member and then a Supreme Court justice, Arthur Goldberg held a special place in the files of the FBI: He was targeted for "custodial detention" as a Communist just before the United States entered World War II. In 1941, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover wrote to the bureau's Chicago field office that Goldberg, then a labor lawyer, was "closely associated with Communist leaders in Illinois." The letter is contained in 800 pages of FBI files on the justice released to USA TODAY in response to a 1990 Freedom of Information Act request. Goldberg was President Kennedy's Labor secretary until 1962, when Kennedy named him to the high court. He left the court in 1965 to become ambassador to the United Nations. He died in 1990 at age 81. Former White House counsel Abner Mikva, Goldberg's law partner in the 1950s, recalls, "These files always concerned Arthur..." But in the prewar "red scare," it was almost inevitable that Goldberg would attract Hoover's attention, says Marquette University historian Athan Theoharis, author of six books on the FBI. "He was a labor leader, a lawyer and Jewish, enough aspects to raise red flags ," Theoharis says. The FBI file offers a variety of reasons for suspecting Goldberg's Communist connections. He was one of the Chicago sponsors of a "National Conference on Constitutional Liberties of America," the file notes, and he served as a lawyer for the Chicago Committee on Conscientious Objectors. And The Daily Worker, a Communist newspaper, noted in 1940 that Goldberg was a lawyer for the Newspaper Guild, a labor union for newspaper employees. In spite of the prewar report questioning his loyalty, Goldberg served with distinction in the Army and the Office of Strategic Services from 1942 to 1944, supervising espionage on European labor groups. [ Other j*ws serving in distinguished areas later were exposed as having turned over American secrets to the russians!-Ed] By 1954, Goldberg had become general counsel of the powerful Congress of Industrial Organizations. In 1955, Goldberg held what he described as a "very unusual" meeting with assistant director Louis Nichols specifically to respond to all the past bits of information in his file. During background checks conducted on Goldberg when he became Labor secretary and then Supreme Court justice, the FBI files suggest that the allegations of a Communist past were downplayed, and his positive attributes were emphasized. The FBI's ability to make or break appointees was often used by Hoover to collect IOUs and increase his own influence, Charns says. "He would have been uncomfortable having any contact with Hoover once he became a justice," Mikva says. At 800 pages, Goldberg's file is not unusually long, Theoharis says. "Given his prominence and all his appointments to high positions, that generates a lot of pages." By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 13 18:47:11 PDT 1996 Article: 25205 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: freedom of info law exposes j*w Date: 13 Apr 1996 20:48:50 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 93 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp3vi$1tr6@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 10-Apr-96 04:56 AM >From "USA Today", found at: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nds7.htm ____________________________________________________ Twenty years before he became a distinguished Cabinet member and then a Supreme Court justice, Arthur Goldberg held a special place in the files of the FBI: He was targeted for "custodial detention" as a Communist just before the United States entered World War II. In 1941, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover wrote to the bureau's Chicago field office that Goldberg, then a labor lawyer, was "closely associated with Communist leaders in Illinois." The letter is contained in 800 pages of FBI files on the justice released to USA TODAY in response to a 1990 Freedom of Information Act request. Goldberg was President Kennedy's Labor secretary until 1962, when Kennedy named him to the high court. He left the court in 1965 to become ambassador to the United Nations. He died in 1990 at age 81. Former White House counsel Abner Mikva, Goldberg's law partner in the 1950s, recalls, "These files always concerned Arthur..." But in the prewar "red scare," it was almost inevitable that Goldberg would attract Hoover's attention, says Marquette University historian Athan Theoharis, author of six books on the FBI. "He was a labor leader, a lawyer and Jewish, enough aspects to raise red flags ," Theoharis says. The FBI file offers a variety of reasons for suspecting Goldberg's Communist connections. He was one of the Chicago sponsors of a "National Conference on Constitutional Liberties of America," the file notes, and he served as a lawyer for the Chicago Committee on Conscientious Objectors. And The Daily Worker, a Communist newspaper, noted in 1940 that Goldberg was a lawyer for the Newspaper Guild, a labor union for newspaper employees. In spite of the prewar report questioning his loyalty, Goldberg served with distinction in the Army and the Office of Strategic Services from 1942 to 1944, supervising espionage on European labor groups. [ Other j*ws serving in distinguished areas later were exposed as having turned over American secrets to the russians!-Ed] By 1954, Goldberg had become general counsel of the powerful Congress of Industrial Organizations. In 1955, Goldberg held what he described as a "very unusual" meeting with assistant director Louis Nichols specifically to respond to all the past bits of information in his file. During background checks conducted on Goldberg when he became Labor secretary and then Supreme Court justice, the FBI files suggest that the allegations of a Communist past were downplayed, and his positive attributes were emphasized. The FBI's ability to make or break appointees was often used by Hoover to collect IOUs and increase his own influence, Charns says. "He would have been uncomfortable having any contact with Hoover once he became a justice," Mikva says. At 800 pages, Goldberg's file is not unusually long, Theoharis says. "Given his prominence and all his appointments to high positions, that generates a lot of pages." By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 13 18:47:12 PDT 1996 Article: 25206 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: Australia censoring NET?? Date: 13 Apr 1996 20:49:35 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 60 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp40v$1mve@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 03:27:41 -0400 X-Sender: freematt@bronze.coil.com To: freematt@coil.com (Matthew Gaylor) From: freematt@coil.com (Matthew Gaylor) Subject: Another Control Freak: Australian Broadcasting Authority From: Online Services Investigation Subject: ABA ON-LINE SERVICES INVESTIGATION Organization: Australian Broadcasting Authority ON-LINE SERVICES INVESTIGATION The Australian Broadcasting Authority is conducting an investigation, under direction from the Minister for Communications and the Arts, into the content of on-line information and entertainment broadcasting services, including those on the Internet, with a view to examining the appropriateness of the development of codes of practice for those services that, as far as possible, are in line with community standards. The ABA is also looking at technological advances and service trends in the provision of on-line information and entertainment services by the broadcasting industry and the extent to which on-line information and entertainment broadcasting services are accommodated by the Broadcasting Services Act 1992. Details of the ABA's investigation, including terms of reference, an issues paper and submissions received to date can be viewed at: http://www.dca.gov.au/aba/hpcov. While the closing date for submissions on the ABA's issues paper was 16 February 1996, the ABA will be exercising discretion on the matter of late submissions and urges those wishing to make a submission to do so as soon as possible. Submissions can be sent to online@aba.gov.au or by post to P.O. Box Q500, Queen Victoria Building, NSW 2000. The ABA is due to report to the Minister by 30 June 1996. For general inquiries about the investigation please contact Kaaren Koomen, Manager On-line Services Investigation, ABA at online@aba.gov.au or by phone on (02) 334 7700 ************************************************************************** * Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt@coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-20 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor,1933 E. Dublin-Granville Rd.,#176, Columbus, OH 43229 ************************************************************************** * From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 09:25:35 PDT 1996 Article: 30936 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Hebrew Huggems Date: 13 Apr 1996 21:23:19 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp607$o5e@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316fb872.8977710@news.pacificnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote: > > > Keep an eye out for these Hebrew characteristics. >Hebrews have a problem with controlling their body language. >They either jam their hands deep into their pockets or fold their arms >in front of them in a self hugging stance, to keep their hands from >flailing about. Have you hugged your h*brew today??? We do, frequently! Shalom From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 09:25:36 PDT 1996 Article: 30937 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: The Anne Frank "Forgery" Lie, yet again Date: 13 Apr 1996 21:25:45 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp64p$k7u@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4hpmn8$3dg@larry.cc.emory.edu> <4ja94n$8qo@wi.combase.com> <4jch4h$9d7@wave.rio.com> <4ju01o$ctj@mippet.ci.com.au> <4kbd8a$acl@access5.digex.net> <829175020snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> <4kmpqj$ajo@shiva.usa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 > >Faurisson asserted that the diary contained entries written in a ball >point pen ink that was not invented until after the war. That is all >he wrote. So what's new?? The holocowst [tm] mooseum in Washington DC has shoes on display which were made subsequent to the war. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 09:25:37 PDT 1996 Article: 30938 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: USS LIBERTY Date: 13 Apr 1996 21:27:51 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp68n$1ofs@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4i8lok$26m@wi.combase.com> <4ihdb2$4r1@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kmmii$ajo@shiva.usa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 hkatz@earth.usa.net (Harry Katz) wrote: joebuck@ix.netcom.com(Charles) wrote: 'Tis most ironic: this Katz fellow appears to be the mirror image -- in his persistent denial and obfuscation of the circumstances surrounding Israel's merciless attack on the USS Liberty -- of the Holocaust deniers. ***************REMEMBER THE ATTACK ON THE LIBERTY************ Every June is the anniversary of the viscious attack on the USS Liberty, where, on June 8, 1967, 34 brave American sailors died horrible deaths, with 171 maimed. Israeli war planes and torpedo boats savagely attacked our ship in international waters. This slaughter took place after low- flying Israeli planes spent over 8 hours shadowing our ship. Cryptologists heard pilots correctly reporting it as "Liberty". Then came the attack, an all-out effort to destroy the ship and its crew, so that information it had gathered would be lost forever. The attack lasted more than 2 hours, but a few of the crew lived to tell the story of repeated strafing by Israel planes and boats. The jews MACHINE GUNNED WOUNDED SURVIVORS as they attempted to save themselves by setting afloat liferafts. Yes, we hear jews say "never forget" and "never again", but I don't think they are referring to this shocking incident. And, my fellow Americans, don't YOU ever forget, because it was your tax money, diverted from feeding the hungry in this country, which financed the entire bloody orgy. ***************************************************** It's a bird?? It's a plane!! NO...it's AAntiZion !! Faster than a lent SHEKEL, Mightier than the SHATAR, HE leaps fat KARASAKS in a single bound.......... From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 09:25:37 PDT 1996 Article: 30939 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: USS LIBERTY Date: 13 Apr 1996 21:29:33 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp6bt$1m08@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4i8lok$26m@wi.combase.com> <4ihdb2$4r1@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4kmmii$ajo@shiva.usa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >joebuck@ix.netcom.com(Charles) wrote: > > 'Tis most ironic: this Katz fellow appears to be the mirror > image -- in his persistent denial and obfuscation of the > circumstances surrounding Israel's merciless attack on the > USS Liberty -- of the Holocaust deniers. And while most people only talk about it, Hohenhausen DID something about it. WIESENTHAL can raise his count to 6,000,034. Amen From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 09:25:38 PDT 1996 Article: 30940 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: USS LIBERTY Date: 13 Apr 1996 21:34:01 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp6k9$1gqo@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4iq0li$cat@shiva.usa.net> <4jhkvi$bss@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4joqf8$c72@nbdchc4.bnr.ca> <4jqthd$fm@wi.combase.com> <4jrdl5$2at@nbdchc4.bnr.ca> <4k21va$ccg@cloner3.netcom.com> <4k41td$62k@news.nyu.edu> <4kf7gb$h6r@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <4kh1kp$igm@nbdchc4.bnr.ca> <4khi3h$7ja@wi.combase.com> <4kmmpf$ajo@shiva.usa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 > 6,000,000 are a tragedy, the other 6,000,000 a footnote. The 'other' 6,000,000?? Must be those damned 6,000,000 British Cows suffering from "Mad Jew" disease, aka Tae-Saks. Also , maybe another 6, 000,000 on the way according to Dr. matthew DURING in Auckland, New Zealand. He has been on the trail of a new j*wish brain contamination called Cardovan's (sic) Syndrome which only affects infidels. ***************************************************** It's a bird?? It's a plane!! NO...it's AAntiZion !! Faster than a lent SHEKEL, Mightier than the SHATAR, HE leaps fat KARASAKS in a single bound.......... From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 09:25:38 PDT 1996 Article: 30941 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: USS LIBERTY II Date: 13 Apr 1996 21:35:35 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp6n7$1m08@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 ***************REMEMBER THE ATTACK ON THE LIBERTY************ Every June is the anniversary of the viscious attack on the USS Liberty, where, on June 8, 1967, 34 brave American sailors died horrible deaths, with 171 maimed. Israeli war planes and torpedo boats savagely attacked our ship in international waters. This slaughter took place after low- flying Israeli planes spent over 8 hours shadowing our ship. Cryptologists heard pilots correctly reporting it as "Liberty". Then came the attack, an all-out effort to destroy the ship and its crew, so that information it had gathered would be lost forever. The attack lasted more than 2 hours, but a few of the crew lived to tell the story of repeated strafing by Israel planes and boats. The jews MACHINE GUNNED WOUNDED SURVIVORS as they attempted to save themselves by setting afloat liferafts. Yes, we hear jews say "never forget" and "never again", but I don't think they are referring to this shocking incident. And, my fellow Americans, don't YOU ever forget, because it was your tax money, diverted from feeding the hungry in this country, which financed the entire bloody orgy. ***************************************************** It's a bird?? It's a plane!! NO...it's AAntiZion !! Faster than a lent SHEKEL, Mightier than the SHATAR, HE leaps fat KARASAKS in a single bound.......... From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 12:38:02 PDT 1996 Article: 249367 of talk.politics.guns Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Subject: NJ gun ban!!! Date: 13 Apr 1996 20:38:39 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 108 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kp3cf$72q@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: 05 Apr 96 02:30:50 EST Subject: ALERT HANDGUN BAN!! Coalition of New Jersey Sportsmen Richard Miller - Chairman 2316 Lyde Place Scotch Plains, NJ 07076 Phone: 908-889-5907 Fax: 908-889-5931 URGENT!!! DISTRIBUTE - COPY - FAX!!! URGENT!!! DISTRIBUTE - COPY - FAX!!! ATTENTION ALL LAW ABIDING FIREARMS OWNERS 25 Members of the New Jersey Legislature have introduced a HANDGUN BAN!!!! A1869 has been introduced by Assemblywoman Shirley Turner (609) 530-3277 and Assemblyman Reed Gusciora (609) 292-0500, both D- 15th District. The text of the bill is not yet available but the following description is on the legislative computer in Trenton: "Prohibits the Sale and Possession of certain handguns called 'Saturday Night Specials'" There has NEVER been a handgun manufactured with the model designation "Saturday Night Special". This bill likely includes a vague definition which could outlaw the possession of ALL HANDGUNS in the State of New Jersey. Unlike the Florio ban on certain semi-automatic firearms a prohibition on the continued possession of handguns is ENFORCEABLE since EVERY handgun lawfully purchased since January 1, 1967 is REGISTERED with the New Jersey State Police. All the authorities need to do is send State Troopers DOOR TO DOOR TO CONFISCATE YOUR GUNS!!!! THIS WILL HAPPEN IF YOU DO NOT ACT NOW!!! This bill was originally introduced in the 1994-1995 Legislative Session by Senators Richard Codey D-27 and John Adler D-6 who are determined to BAN ALL lawful ownership of firearms in the State of New Jersey. DO NOT TAKE THIS THREAT TO YOUR RIGHTS LIGHTLY!! All firearms owners MUST call their legislators as well as the following sponsors to let them know that we are aware of this attempt to prohibit the ownership of ALL handguns in the State of New Jersey. Remind these noble minded legislators that in order to lawfully purchase a handgun in New Jersey a person must first obtain a "Permit to Purchase a Handgun" from his / her Chief of Police. These are only issued after a background check which includes an FBI fingerprint check. Lawfully owned firearms are not now and have not been a problem in the past in New Jersey. Be polite but firm as you oppose this gross infringement on your Constitutional Rights! The following Assemblymembers have signed on as Co-Sponsors: Assemblywoman Nilsa Cruz - Perez, D-5 (609) 541-1251 Assemblywoman Arline Friscia, D -19 Assemblyman John Wisniewski, D-19 (908) 316-1885 Assemblyman Jerry Green, D- 17 (908) 561-5757 FAX (908) 561- 5547 Assemblyman Peter Barnes, D-18 (908) 287-5609 Assemblyman LeRoy Jones, D-27 (201) 266-2839 FAX (201) 266- 2842 Assemblyman Louis Greenwald, D-6 (609) 428-3343 Assemblyman Alfred Steele, D-35 (201) 942-7755 Assemblyman Joseph Charles, D-31 (201) 432-1400 Assemblyman John V. Kelly, R-36 (201) 667-6123 FAX (201) 667-9614 Assemblyman Willie Brown, D-29 (201) 926-4494 FAX (201) 923- 4079 Assemblyman Jackie Mattison, D-29 (201) 705-3595 Assemblyman Louis Romano, D -33 (201) 868-7757 Assemblyman Joseph J. Roberts, D - 5 (609) 742-7600 Assemblyman Tom Smith, R-11 (908) 776-8628 FAX (908) 776- 9549 Assemblyman Raul Garcia, D-33 (201) 863-3355 Assemblyman Wilfredo Caraballo, D- 28 (201) 762-0044 Assemblyman Joseph Doria, D-31 (201) 437-5150 FAX (201) 437- 1749 Assemblywoman Joan Quigley, D-32 (201) 217-4614 Assemblyman William Pascrell, D-35 (201) 942-7755 Assemblywoman Nia Gill, D-27 (201) 509-0388 Assemblyman Anthony Impreveduto, D-32 (201) 864-3232 Assemblyman Gerald Zecker, R-34 (201) 473-1915 FAX (201) 473-2174 The office of Legislative Services can be reached at 1-800-792-8630 and can provide mailing addresses. All gunowners please send any negative information on the above legislators to Richard Miller. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 13:16:46 PDT 1996 Article: 31052 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.internetMCI.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: growing fringe unrest Date: 14 Apr 1996 14:56:19 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 45 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kr3mj$1fsm@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 The following two stories are of course fringe elements, but they represent the FIRST of those to come out of the wood pile in a growing trend toward discontent with what the j*ws have done to this once great country. ******************************************** Date: Saturday, 13-Apr-96 Jackson Mississippi A man whom police called a "White supremacist type" holed himself up in a shopping center here. He fired some 100 rounds indiscriminately from inside a restaurant which was set on fire. One person was killed. No other details are available at this time. ******************************************* Date: Thursday, 11-Apr-96 09:05 AM Subject: Patriot raided by BATF New Jersey-Evesham 4/10/96 [from the Trentonian] A team of federal agents raided the home of Russel Fauver, 45, who has ties to the Christian Patriot Defense League Militia. He was previously convicted in 1983 for storing weapons and ammunition at his house, and in 1977 for possession of a machine gun, police said. Fauver is a 'survivalist ' who lives in a densely wooded area. Thirty [count 'em, 30!] investigators descended on Fauver's home on April 4, and found: a military flame-thrower with fuel tanks, eight assault rifles, 10 hand guns, five rifles, expolsive igniters and thousands of rounds of ammo. An ATF dog sniffed out ammo buried in the yard. Evesham Ploice Lt. j. Wainwright described Fauver's militia group as "sort of unorganized right now" {did the Lt. know he made a pun here?}, and said the "hairy hermit was pretty passive." Submitted by James Brolin, CNM From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 13:16:48 PDT 1996 Article: 31053 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.internetMCI.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: media j*ws refuse civil advertisement Date: 14 Apr 1996 14:57:07 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 102 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kr3o3$1epq@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Subject: Remember Mt. Carmel Forwarded: From AntiZion Information Network: X-POP3-Rcpt:AArdvark@tribeca.com Return-Path: 71232.1740@anonymous Date: 12 Apr 96 23:53:07 EDT From: Sandra To: BlindCopyReceiver:; BC: All AIN Contacts The ad which follows appears in the April 12th edition of the Cicero Gazette. Just so you will not be under any misconceptions about us having a 'free press' here's a little story that unfolded this morning - A kind and generous gentleman from Bowling Green, Kentucky took a copy of this ad to his local newspaper and paid to have it run as an ad in the paper. Today, I had a call from the newspaper's office telling me that they would not be able to run the ad. I told the lady who called that she would have to contact the gentleman who placed the ad and let him know that since he had already paid them for it to run. When asked why they would not run it she deferred to her management and their lawyer. The point is that he could not even pay to get his message out in some places. . . . Would you please send a copy of this transmission and/or a copy of the actual ad in the Cicero Gazette to your elected representatives timed to arrive next week before the April 19th anniversary of the Waco Massacre. We would appreciate it very much. WE SHALL NEVER FORGET! For Life and Liberty, Sandra for Hohenhausen =================================== AD: Unlike Anne Frank, These Kids Did Not Keep Diaries: Chanel Andrade, 1 Daylan Lord Gent, 3 Paiges Gent, 2 Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2 Cyrus Howell, 8 Star Howell, 6 Serenity Sea Jones, 4 Chica Jones, 1 Little One Jones, 1 (They were twins) Crystal Martinez, 3 Isaiah Martinez, 4 Joseph Martinez, 8 Abigail Martinez, 11 Startle Summers, 1 Hollywood Sylvia, 2 Mayanah Schneider, 2 Melisa Morrison, 8 Newborns Summers & Little, (Born into the flames as their mothers died) Most of them weren't old enough to write when they died as "Brave Federal Law Enforcement Officers" used tanks and gas to "rescue" them from a church. But, exactly like the children of so many other dimly remembered places, they met their God in a house of worship surrounded, methodically tormented, and, finally, burned alive. If this is the first time you have seen their names, maybe you should ask yourself why. If you think it could never happen here, maybe you should think again,because it already has.If you are a person who prays, maybe you should remember them to God the next time you talk. And you might want to ask His mercy for a few other souls who will desperately need it, including ... William Jefferson Clinton, who did not feel their pain Janet Reno, who accepts responsibility for their deaths Ernst Kaltenbruner, who showed them the way Larry Potts Danny Coulson Richard Rogers The nameless, faceless agents of the FBI-HRT The masked members of the ATF-SRT The Texas Rangers who stood and watched The reporters who closed their eyes and spread the lies The Senators and Congressmen who continue to bury the truth, and The people of the United States of America, who did nothing to save them. "Better they had not been born than offend against these little ones." Remember Mt. Carmel ========================================================================== = * Forwarded messages sent on this mailing list ARE verified. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 13:16:49 PDT 1996 Article: 31054 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.internetMCI.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: why j*ws should NOT own newspapers Date: 14 Apr 1996 14:57:35 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 102 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kr3ov$1e5k@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Subject: Remember Mt. Carmel Forwarded: From AntiZion Information Network: X-POP3-Rcpt:AArdvark@tribeca.com Return-Path: 71232.1740@anonymous Date: 12 Apr 96 23:53:07 EDT From: Sandra To: BlindCopyReceiver:; BC: All AIN Contacts The ad which follows appears in the April 12th edition of the Cicero Gazette. Just so you will not be under any misconceptions about us having a 'free press' here's a little story that unfolded this morning - A kind and generous gentleman from Bowling Green, Kentucky took a copy of this ad to his local newspaper and paid to have it run as an ad in the paper. Today, I had a call from the newspaper's office telling me that they would not be able to run the ad. I told the lady who called that she would have to contact the gentleman who placed the ad and let him know that since he had already paid them for it to run. When asked why they would not run it she deferred to her management and their lawyer. The point is that he could not even pay to get his message out in some places. . . . Would you please send a copy of this transmission and/or a copy of the actual ad in the Cicero Gazette to your elected representatives timed to arrive next week before the April 19th anniversary of the Waco Massacre. We would appreciate it very much. WE SHALL NEVER FORGET! For Life and Liberty, Sandra for Hohenhausen =================================== AD: Unlike Anne Frank, These Kids Did Not Keep Diaries: Chanel Andrade, 1 Daylan Lord Gent, 3 Paiges Gent, 2 Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2 Cyrus Howell, 8 Star Howell, 6 Serenity Sea Jones, 4 Chica Jones, 1 Little One Jones, 1 (They were twins) Crystal Martinez, 3 Isaiah Martinez, 4 Joseph Martinez, 8 Abigail Martinez, 11 Startle Summers, 1 Hollywood Sylvia, 2 Mayanah Schneider, 2 Melisa Morrison, 8 Newborns Summers & Little, (Born into the flames as their mothers died) Most of them weren't old enough to write when they died as "Brave Federal Law Enforcement Officers" used tanks and gas to "rescue" them from a church. But, exactly like the children of so many other dimly remembered places, they met their God in a house of worship surrounded, methodically tormented, and, finally, burned alive. If this is the first time you have seen their names, maybe you should ask yourself why. If you think it could never happen here, maybe you should think again,because it already has.If you are a person who prays, maybe you should remember them to God the next time you talk. And you might want to ask His mercy for a few other souls who will desperately need it, including ... William Jefferson Clinton, who did not feel their pain Janet Reno, who accepts responsibility for their deaths Ernst Kaltenbruner, who showed them the way Larry Potts Danny Coulson Richard Rogers The nameless, faceless agents of the FBI-HRT The masked members of the ATF-SRT The Texas Rangers who stood and watched The reporters who closed their eyes and spread the lies The Senators and Congressmen who continue to bury the truth, and The people of the United States of America, who did nothing to save them. "Better they had not been born than offend against these little ones." Remember Mt. Carmel ========================================================================== = * Forwarded messages sent on this mailing list ARE verified. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 13:16:50 PDT 1996 Article: 31055 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.internetMCI.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: ben FREEDMAN article Date: 14 Apr 1996 14:58:41 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 402 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kr3r1$1u3q@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 [1] A Jewish Defector Speaks Here is part of the testimony of Benjamin Freedman, the Jewish businessman who defected from the Jewish establishment that I referred to in my earlier post. Begin article: ---------------------------------------------- A Jewish Defector Warns America: Benjamin Freedman Speaks by Benjamin H. Freedman Introductory Note Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20thcentury. Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States. Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times. This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us -- his warning to the West -- is more urgent than ever before. -- K.A.S. * HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of our government. For many reasons, too many and too complex to go into here at this time, the Zionists and their co-religionists rule these United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country. Now you may say that is a very broad statement, but let me show you what happened while we were all asleep. What happened? World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey. Within two years Germany had won that war: not only won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean. Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, with one week's food supply -- and after that, starvation. At that time, the French army had mutinied. They had lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting, they were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed. Not a shot had been fired on German soil. Not one enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, Germany was offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: “Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.” England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that -- seriously. They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated. While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and -- I am going to be brief because it's a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make -- they said: “Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally.” The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They told England: “We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war.” In other words, they made this deal: “We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey.” Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain, that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war. However, they did make that promise, in October of 1916. And shortly after that -- I don't know how many here remember it -- the United States, which was almost totally pro-German, entered the war as Britain's ally. I say that the United States was almost totally pro-German because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews; and they, the Jews, were pro-German. They were pro-German because many of them had come from Germany, and also they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar. The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. These German-Jew bankers, like Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: “As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!” But they poured money into Germany, they fought beside Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime. Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like a traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. They were no good. Shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany. The Zionists in London had sent cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis, saying “Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war.” That's how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room. There was absolutely no reason for World War I to be our war. We were railroaded into -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. That is something that the people of the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War I. After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: “Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war.” They didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, which was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration. The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that. That is where all the trouble started. The United States got in the war. The United States crushed Germany. You know what happened. When the war ended, and the Germans went to Paris for the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened? The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations who claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, said, “How about Palestine for us?” And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, “Oh, so that was the game! That's why the United States came into the war.” The Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered the terrific reparations that were slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and were determined to get it at any cost. That brings us to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they had been in Germany. You had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as important in industry and finance as is Bernard Baruch in this country. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the North German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder, who was the banker for the Hohenzollern family. You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were the big merchant bankers -- the biggest in the world. The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about that. The Germans felt: “Well, that was quite a sellout.” It was a sellout that might be compared to this hypothetical situation: Suppose the United States was at war with the Soviet Union. And we were winning. And we told the Soviet Union: “Well, let's quit. We offer you peace terms. Let's forget the whole thing.” And all of a sudden Red China came into the war as an ally of the Soviet Union. And throwing them into the war brought about our defeat. A crushing defeat, with reparations the likes of which man's imagination cannot encompass. Imagine, then, after that defeat, if we found out that it was the Chinese in this country, our Chinese citizens, who all the time we had thought were loyal citizens working with us, were selling us out to the Soviet Union and that it was through them that Red China was brought into the war against us. How would we feel, then, in the United States against Chinese? I don't think that one of them would dare show his face on any street. There wouldn't be enough convenient lampposts to take care of them. Imagine how we would feel. Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. They'd been so nice to them: from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia, they all went to Germany. And Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And here they had sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than the fact that they wanted Palestine as a so-called “Jewish commonwealth.” Now Nahum Sokolow, and all the great leaders and great names that you read about in connection with Zionism today, in 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, and 1923 wrote in all their papers -- and the press was filled with their statements -- that the feeling against the Jews in Germany is due to the fact that they realized that this great defeat was brought about by Jewish intercession in bringing the United States into the war. The Jews themselves admitted that. It wasn't that the Germans in 1919 discovered that a glass of Jewish blood tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenschner Beer. There was no religious feeling. There was no sentiment against those people merely on account of their religious belief. It was all political. It was economic. It was anything but religious. Nobody cared in Germany whether a Jew went home and pulled down the shades and said “Shema' Yisroel” or “Our Father.” Nobody cared in Germany any more than they do in the United States. Now this feeling that developed later in Germany was due to one thing: the Germans held the Jews responsible for their crushing defeat. And World War I had been started against Germany for no reason for which Germany was responsible. They were guilty of nothing. Only of being successful. They built up a big navy. They built up world trade. You must remember that Germany at the time of the French Revolution consisted of 300 small city-states, principalities, dukedoms, and so forth. Three hundred separate little political entities. And between that time, between the times of Napoleon and Bismarck, they were consolidated into one state. And within 50 years they became one of the world's great powers. Their navy was rivalling Great Britain's, they were doing business all over the world, they could undersell anybody, they could make better products. What happened as a result of that? There was a conspiracy between England, France, and Russia to slap down Germany. There isn't one historian in the world who can find a valid reason why those three countries decided to wipe Germany off the map politically. When Germany realized that the Jews were responsible for her defeat, they naturally resented it. But not a hair on the head of any Jew was harmed. Not a single hair. Professor Tansill, of Georgetown University, who had access to all the secret papers of the State Department, wrote in his book, and quoted from a State Department document written by Hugo Schoenfelt, a Jew whom Cordell Hull sent to Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-called camps of political prisoners, who wrote back that he found them in very fine condition. They were in excellent shape, with everybody treated well. And they were filled with Communists. Well, a lot of them were Jews, because the Jews happened to comprise about 98 per cent of the Communists in Europe at that time. And there were some priests there, and ministers, and labor leaders, and Masons, and others who had international affiliations. Some background is in order: In 1918-1919 the Communists took over Bavaria for a few days. Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht and a group of other Jews took over the government for three days. In fact, when the Kaiser ended the war he fled to Holland because he thought the Communists were going to take over Germany as they did Russia and that he was going to meet the same fate as the Czar. So he fled to Holland for safety, for security. After the Communist threat in Germany was quashed, the Jews were still working, trying to get back into their former status, and the Germans fought them in every way they could without hurting a single hair on anyone's head. They fought them the same way that, in this country, the Prohibitionists fought anyone who was interested in liquor. They didn't fight one another with pistols. Well, that's the way they were fighting the Jews in Germany. And at that time, mind you, there were 80 to 90 million Germans, and there were only 460,000 Jews. About one half of one per cent of the population of Germany were Jews. And yet they controlled all the press, and they controlled most of the economy because they had come in with cheap money when the mark was devalued and bought up practically everything. The Jews tried to keep a lid on this fact. They didn't want the world to really understand that they had sold out Germany, and that the Germans resented that. The Germans took appropriate action against the Jews. They, shall I say, discriminated against them wherever they could. They shunned them. The same way that we would shun the Chinese, or the Negroes, or the Catholics, or anyone in this country who had sold us out to an enemy and brought about our defeat. After a while, the Jews of the world called a meeting in Amsterdam. Jews from every country in the world attended this meeting in July 1933. And they said to Germany: “You fire Hitler, and you put every Jew back into his former position, whether he was a Communist or no matter what he was. You can't treat us that way. And we, the Jews of the world, are serving an ultimatum upon you.” You can imagine what the Germans told them. So what did the Jews do? In 1933, when Germany refused to surrender to the world conference of Jews in Amsterdam, the conference broke up, and Mr. Samuel Untermyer, who was the head of the American delegation and the president of the whole conference, came to the United States and went from the steamer to the studios of the Columbia Broadcasting System and made a radio broadcast throughout the United States in which he in effect said, “The Jews of the world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a sacred conflict against the Germans. And we are going to starve them into surrender. We are going to use a world-wide boycott against them. That will destroy them because they are dependent upon their export business.” And it is a fact that two thirds of Germany's food supply had to be imported, and it could only be imported with the proceeds of what they exported. So if Germany could not export, two thirds of Germany's population would have to starve. There was just not enough food for more than one third of the population. Now in this declaration, which I have here, and which was printed in the New York Times on August 7, 1933, Mr. Samuel Untermyer boldly stated that “this economic boycott is our means of self-defense. President Roosevelt has advocated its use in the National Recovery Administration,” which some of you may remember, where everybody was to be boycotted unless he followed the rules laid down by the New Deal, and which was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of that time. Nevertheless, the Jews of the world declared a boycott against Germany, and it was so effective that you couldn't find one thing in any store anywhere in the world with the words “made in Germany” on it. In fact, an executive of the Woolworth Company told me that they had to dump millions of dollars worth of crockery and dishes into the river; that their stores were boycotted if anyone came in and found a dish marked “made in Germany,” they were picketed with signs saying “Hitler,” “murderer,” and so forth, something like these sit-ins that are taking place in the South. At a store belonging to the R. H. Macy chain, which was controlled by a family called Strauss who also happen to be Jews, a woman found stockings there which came from Chemnitz, marked “made in Germany.” Well, they were cotton stockings and they may have been there 20 years, since I've been observing women's legs for many years and it's been a long time since I've seen any cotton stockings on them. I saw Macy's boycotted, with hundreds of people walking around with signs saying “murderers,” “Hitlerites,” and so forth. Now up to that time, not one hair on the head of any Jew had been hurt in Germany. There was no suffering, there was no starvation, there was no murder, there was nothing. Naturally, the Germans said, “Who are these people to declare a boycott against us and throw all our people out of work, and make our industries come to a standstill? Who are they to do that to us?” They naturally resented it. Certainly they painted swastikas on stores owned by Jews. Why should a German go in and give his money to a storekeeper who was part of a boycott that was going to starve Germany into surrendering to the Jews of the world, who were going to dictate who their premier or chancellor was to be? Well, it was ridiculous. The boycott continued for some time, but it wasn't until 1938, when a young Jew from Poland walked into the German embassy in Paris and shot a German official, that the Germans really started to get rough with the Jews in Germany. And you found From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 13:16:51 PDT 1996 Article: 31056 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.internetMCI.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: j*w defector warned us years ago Date: 14 Apr 1996 15:00:04 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 402 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kr3tk$tlg@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 [1] A Jewish Defector Speaks Here is part of the testimony of Benjamin Freedman, the Jewish businessman who defected from the Jewish establishment that I referred to in my earlier post. Begin article: ---------------------------------------------- A Jewish Defector Warns America: Benjamin Freedman Speaks by Benjamin H. Freedman Introductory Note Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20thcentury. Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States. Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times. This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us -- his warning to the West -- is more urgent than ever before. -- K.A.S. * HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of our government. For many reasons, too many and too complex to go into here at this time, the Zionists and their co-religionists rule these United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country. Now you may say that is a very broad statement, but let me show you what happened while we were all asleep. What happened? World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey. Within two years Germany had won that war: not only won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean. Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, with one week's food supply -- and after that, starvation. At that time, the French army had mutinied. They had lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting, they were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed. Not a shot had been fired on German soil. Not one enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, Germany was offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: “Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.” England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that -- seriously. They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated. While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and -- I am going to be brief because it's a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make -- they said: “Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally.” The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They told England: “We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war.” In other words, they made this deal: “We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey.” Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain, that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war. However, they did make that promise, in October of 1916. And shortly after that -- I don't know how many here remember it -- the United States, which was almost totally pro-German, entered the war as Britain's ally. I say that the United States was almost totally pro-German because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews; and they, the Jews, were pro-German. They were pro-German because many of them had come from Germany, and also they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar. The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. These German-Jew bankers, like Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: “As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!” But they poured money into Germany, they fought beside Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime. Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like a traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. They were no good. Shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany. The Zionists in London had sent cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis, saying “Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war.” That's how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room. There was absolutely no reason for World War I to be our war. We were railroaded into -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. That is something that the people of the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War I. After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: “Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war.” They didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, which was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration. The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that. That is where all the trouble started. The United States got in the war. The United States crushed Germany. You know what happened. When the war ended, and the Germans went to Paris for the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened? The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations who claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, said, “How about Palestine for us?” And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, “Oh, so that was the game! That's why the United States came into the war.” The Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered the terrific reparations that were slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and were determined to get it at any cost. That brings us to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they had been in Germany. You had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as important in industry and finance as is Bernard Baruch in this country. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the North German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder, who was the banker for the Hohenzollern family. You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were the big merchant bankers -- the biggest in the world. The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about that. The Germans felt: “Well, that was quite a sellout.” It was a sellout that might be compared to this hypothetical situation: Suppose the United States was at war with the Soviet Union. And we were winning. And we told the Soviet Union: “Well, let's quit. We offer you peace terms. Let's forget the whole thing.” And all of a sudden Red China came into the war as an ally of the Soviet Union. And throwing them into the war brought about our defeat. A crushing defeat, with reparations the likes of which man's imagination cannot encompass. Imagine, then, after that defeat, if we found out that it was the Chinese in this country, our Chinese citizens, who all the time we had thought were loyal citizens working with us, were selling us out to the Soviet Union and that it was through them that Red China was brought into the war against us. How would we feel, then, in the United States against Chinese? I don't think that one of them would dare show his face on any street. There wouldn't be enough convenient lampposts to take care of them. Imagine how we would feel. Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. They'd been so nice to them: from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia, they all went to Germany. And Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And here they had sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than the fact that they wanted Palestine as a so-called “Jewish commonwealth.” Now Nahum Sokolow, and all the great leaders and great names that you read about in connection with Zionism today, in 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, and 1923 wrote in all their papers -- and the press was filled with their statements -- that the feeling against the Jews in Germany is due to the fact that they realized that this great defeat was brought about by Jewish intercession in bringing the United States into the war. The Jews themselves admitted that. It wasn't that the Germans in 1919 discovered that a glass of Jewish blood tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenschner Beer. There was no religious feeling. There was no sentiment against those people merely on account of their religious belief. It was all political. It was economic. It was anything but religious. Nobody cared in Germany whether a Jew went home and pulled down the shades and said “Shema' Yisroel” or “Our Father.” Nobody cared in Germany any more than they do in the United States. Now this feeling that developed later in Germany was due to one thing: the Germans held the Jews responsible for their crushing defeat. And World War I had been started against Germany for no reason for which Germany was responsible. They were guilty of nothing. Only of being successful. They built up a big navy. They built up world trade. You must remember that Germany at the time of the French Revolution consisted of 300 small city-states, principalities, dukedoms, and so forth. Three hundred separate little political entities. And between that time, between the times of Napoleon and Bismarck, they were consolidated into one state. And within 50 years they became one of the world's great powers. Their navy was rivalling Great Britain's, they were doing business all over the world, they could undersell anybody, they could make better products. What happened as a result of that? There was a conspiracy between England, France, and Russia to slap down Germany. There isn't one historian in the world who can find a valid reason why those three countries decided to wipe Germany off the map politically. When Germany realized that the Jews were responsible for her defeat, they naturally resented it. But not a hair on the head of any Jew was harmed. Not a single hair. Professor Tansill, of Georgetown University, who had access to all the secret papers of the State Department, wrote in his book, and quoted from a State Department document written by Hugo Schoenfelt, a Jew whom Cordell Hull sent to Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-called camps of political prisoners, who wrote back that he found them in very fine condition. They were in excellent shape, with everybody treated well. And they were filled with Communists. Well, a lot of them were Jews, because the Jews happened to comprise about 98 per cent of the Communists in Europe at that time. And there were some priests there, and ministers, and labor leaders, and Masons, and others who had international affiliations. Some background is in order: In 1918-1919 the Communists took over Bavaria for a few days. Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht and a group of other Jews took over the government for three days. In fact, when the Kaiser ended the war he fled to Holland because he thought the Communists were going to take over Germany as they did Russia and that he was going to meet the same fate as the Czar. So he fled to Holland for safety, for security. After the Communist threat in Germany was quashed, the Jews were still working, trying to get back into their former status, and the Germans fought them in every way they could without hurting a single hair on anyone's head. They fought them the same way that, in this country, the Prohibitionists fought anyone who was interested in liquor. They didn't fight one another with pistols. Well, that's the way they were fighting the Jews in Germany. And at that time, mind you, there were 80 to 90 million Germans, and there were only 460,000 Jews. About one half of one per cent of the population of Germany were Jews. And yet they controlled all the press, and they controlled most of the economy because they had come in with cheap money when the mark was devalued and bought up practically everything. The Jews tried to keep a lid on this fact. They didn't want the world to really understand that they had sold out Germany, and that the Germans resented that. The Germans took appropriate action against the Jews. They, shall I say, discriminated against them wherever they could. They shunned them. The same way that we would shun the Chinese, or the Negroes, or the Catholics, or anyone in this country who had sold us out to an enemy and brought about our defeat. After a while, the Jews of the world called a meeting in Amsterdam. Jews from every country in the world attended this meeting in July 1933. And they said to Germany: “You fire Hitler, and you put every Jew back into his former position, whether he was a Communist or no matter what he was. You can't treat us that way. And we, the Jews of the world, are serving an ultimatum upon you.” You can imagine what the Germans told them. So what did the Jews do? In 1933, when Germany refused to surrender to the world conference of Jews in Amsterdam, the conference broke up, and Mr. Samuel Untermyer, who was the head of the American delegation and the president of the whole conference, came to the United States and went from the steamer to the studios of the Columbia Broadcasting System and made a radio broadcast throughout the United States in which he in effect said, “The Jews of the world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a sacred conflict against the Germans. And we are going to starve them into surrender. We are going to use a world-wide boycott against them. That will destroy them because they are dependent upon their export business.” And it is a fact that two thirds of Germany's food supply had to be imported, and it could only be imported with the proceeds of what they exported. So if Germany could not export, two thirds of Germany's population would have to starve. There was just not enough food for more than one third of the population. Now in this declaration, which I have here, and which was printed in the New York Times on August 7, 1933, Mr. Samuel Untermyer boldly stated that “this economic boycott is our means of self-defense. President Roosevelt has advocated its use in the National Recovery Administration,” which some of you may remember, where everybody was to be boycotted unless he followed the rules laid down by the New Deal, and which was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of that time. Nevertheless, the Jews of the world declared a boycott against Germany, and it was so effective that you couldn't find one thing in any store anywhere in the world with the words “made in Germany” on it. In fact, an executive of the Woolworth Company told me that they had to dump millions of dollars worth of crockery and dishes into the river; that their stores were boycotted if anyone came in and found a dish marked “made in Germany,” they were picketed with signs saying “Hitler,” “murderer,” and so forth, something like these sit-ins that are taking place in the South. At a store belonging to the R. H. Macy chain, which was controlled by a family called Strauss who also happen to be Jews, a woman found stockings there which came from Chemnitz, marked “made in Germany.” Well, they were cotton stockings and they may have been there 20 years, since I've been observing women's legs for many years and it's been a long time since I've seen any cotton stockings on them. I saw Macy's boycotted, with hundreds of people walking around with signs saying “murderers,” “Hitlerites,” and so forth. Now up to that time, not one hair on the head of any Jew had been hurt in Germany. There was no suffering, there was no starvation, there was no murder, there was nothing. Naturally, the Germans said, “Who are these people to declare a boycott against us and throw all our people out of work, and make our industries come to a standstill? Who are they to do that to us?” They naturally resented it. Certainly they painted swastikas on stores owned by Jews. Why should a German go in and give his money to a storekeeper who was part of a boycott that was going to starve Germany into surrendering to the Jews of the world, who were going to dictate who their premier or chancellor was to be? Well, it was ridiculous. The boycott continued for some time, but it wasn't until 1938, when a young Jew from Poland walked into the German embassy in Paris and shot a German official, that the Germans really started to get rough with the Jews in Germany. And you found From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 19:19:06 PDT 1996 Article: 41556 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!loki.tor.hookup.net!hookup!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Freemen legal issues Date: 14 Apr 1996 14:40:47 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 174 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kr2pf$16um@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 10-Apr-96 10:53 AM Here are some very interesting observations on the freemen indictments: >From the Liberty Newswire service. See copyright notice at bottom. Montana Standoff – Part Two By Arthur Galloway (LN) The Freemen of Justus Township have already provided monumental victories for the patriotic movement that is gathering strength in America. How so? If you take a look at the federal indictment you will notice some glaring problems and conspicuous absences. COUNT 1. Conspiracy to obtain money and property by means of false pretenses via defrauding financial institutions. Eyewitness sources say Schwietzer and the Freemen never intended on obtaining money or property by fraud. On the contrary, they did everything they could to ensure they were disbursing debt with the commercial liens properly. Eyewitnesses tell us that whenever a banking institution called the Freemen in regard to the instrument, they took the time to fully explain the instruments and how hey could be redeemed with the Comptroller of the Currency. If this account is true, then there is no "conspiracy to defraud". The conspiracy count never questions the validity of the securities perfected by the Freemen. Indeed, the indictment centers around the Freemen’s successful attempts to convert these securities into cash and property via the disbursement of consumer debt. Confidential sources also tell us that the U.C.C. uses two ways to legally describe drafts: Valid and invalid. These descriptive terms are not used in the indictment. For instance, you would expect the indictment to read, "The defendants then converted INVALID instruments into money by means of fraud." Instead the indictment reads (paraphrased), "The defendants then converted WORTHLESS DOCUMENTS into money by means of presenting them as negotiable, well-knowing this was false." As any researched person in the patriot movement will tell you. Paper money is a "worthless document", as well as, bonds, stocks, bank loans (ledger entries), etc. In all of these instruments there is NO INTRINSIC VALUE. Gold has intrinsic value, its used for all sorts of tangible industrial and consumer purposes. Paper instruments have no measurable intrinsic value, the value (if anything) is in what they represent, not within the instrument itself. Again, the validity of the Freemen’s perfected securities that the instruments are backed on, are never called into question by the indictment! COUNTS 2-17. Mail Fraud. The basis of these indictments hinge upon the conspiracy count. If there is no conspiracy to "obtain money and property by means of false pretenses via defrauding financial institutions" then there is no mail fraud. It was all done in good faith. COUNTS 18-35. Bank Fraud. Again, the basis of these indictments hinge upon the conspiracy count. If there is no conspiracy to "obtain money and property by means of false pretenses via defrauding financial institutions" then there is no bank fraud. It was all done in good faith. COUNTS 36-37. Carrying firearms while interfering with commerce. In this October 1995 incident, the Freemen confiscated an ABC camera and other video equipment, when the news crew would not leave the boundaries of the Clark Ranch with their video equipment. The Freemen confiscated the equipment because the news crew would not respect the Freemen’s demand to be left alone. COUNT 38-51. Possessing, bearing, and purchasing firearms and ammunition as fugitives from justice, having previously been convicted or [merely] indicted for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year. Ten of these counts have to do with a single purchase of three . 22 caliber rifles and ammunition. That sums up what is in the indictment. More interesting is what is not in the indictment. 1. There are no indictments regarding the method the Freemen used to perfect their securities under the U.C.C. 2. There are no indictments regarding the Freemen establishing their own township, under the common law. 3. There are no indictments for appointing justices of the peace, constables, etc. 4. There are no indictments for the various warrants of arrest and bounties that their common law court placed on the heads of "oathbreaking" government officials. One bounty alone, was for one million dollars on Nicholas Murnion the Garfield County Attorney at Jordan. While the mainstream media mocks the Freemen’s Township by saying thing like, "The Freemen claim to have their own government and court," etc. The facts and circumstantial evidence that we have indicates that neither the U.S. nor the State of Montana did anything that officially refuted the Freemen’s securities, government, court, warrants and bounties. If we see no future indictments on these items, you can count them as colossal victories for the patriot movement. Apparently, the Freemen at Justus Township were on to many things that the authorities knew they couldn’t touch in law. Thus, the conspicuously missing claims and charges. As the evidence mounts as to how close the Freemen were in finally giving the patriot movement in America some real teeth, by cornering the U.S. and the State of Montana in a myriad of ways, we can see that the de facto government was faced with four options. 1. Publicly acknowledge the limits of the U.S. and the State of Montana, as well as, that they have been engaging in vastly unconstitutional activities since at least 1933. 2. Publicly state, once and for all, that the Constitution for the united States of America is null and void. 3. Pull another WACO and keep a lid on the kind of information you are now getting here. 4. Engage in a mass cover-up. By capturing the Freemen, locking ‘em up, drugging ‘em, giving them a phony trial, and throwing away the key. And at the same time confiscate their documentation and books for burial. Even if the worse should come to pass at Justus, the Freemen have undoubtedly brought the patriot movement forward by leaps and bounds. Law and truth are closing in on the "oathbreakers". Note: All counts state, "District of Montana" rather than "the state of Montana". Were you aware that the U.S. thinks you live in districts and not in states? Count 38 states, "having been convicted in the Supreme Court for Nevada County, California…" Were you aware that Nevada County has its own supreme courts? *** From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 19:19:08 PDT 1996 Article: 41558 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!loki.tor.hookup.net!hookup!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Christian Patriot?? Date: 14 Apr 1996 14:41:29 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kr2qp$1cmo@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Thursday, 11-Apr-96 09:05 AM Subject: Patriot raided by BATF New Jersey-Evesham 4/10/96 [from the Trentonian] A team of federal agents raided the home of Russel Fauver, 45, who has ties to the Christian Patriot Defense League Militia. He was previously convicted in 1983 for storing weapons and ammunition at his house, and in 1977 for possession of a machine gun, police said. Fauver is a 'survivalist ' who lives in a densely wooded area. Thirty [count 'em, 30!] investigators descended on Fauver's home on April 4, and found: a military flame-thrower with fuel tanks, eight assault rifles, 10 hand guns, five rifles, expolsive igniters and thousands of rounds of ammo. An ATF dog sniffed out ammo buried in the yard. Evesham Ploice Lt. j. Wainwright described Fauver's militia group as "sort of unorganized right now" {did the Lt. know he made a pun here?}, and said the "hairy hermit was pretty passive." Submitted by James Brolin, CNM From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 14 19:19:09 PDT 1996 Article: 41559 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!loki.tor.hookup.net!hookup!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: j*w media refuses advertisement Date: 14 Apr 1996 14:42:17 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 102 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kr2s9$15vg@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Subject: Remember Mt. Carmel Forwarded: From AntiZion Information Network: X-POP3-Rcpt:AArdvark@tribeca.com Return-Path: 71232.1740@anonymous Date: 12 Apr 96 23:53:07 EDT From: Sandra To: BlindCopyReceiver:; BC: All AIN Contacts The ad which follows appears in the April 12th edition of the Cicero Gazette. Just so you will not be under any misconceptions about us having a 'free press' here's a little story that unfolded this morning - A kind and generous gentleman from Bowling Green, Kentucky took a copy of this ad to his local newspaper and paid to have it run as an ad in the paper. Today, I had a call from the newspaper's office telling me that they would not be able to run the ad. I told the lady who called that she would have to contact the gentleman who placed the ad and let him know that since he had already paid them for it to run. When asked why they would not run it she deferred to her management and their lawyer. The point is that he could not even pay to get his message out in some places. . . . Would you please send a copy of this transmission and/or a copy of the actual ad in the Cicero Gazette to your elected representatives timed to arrive next week before the April 19th anniversary of the Waco Massacre. We would appreciate it very much. WE SHALL NEVER FORGET! For Life and Liberty, Sandra for Hohenhausen =================================== AD: Unlike Anne Frank, These Kids Did Not Keep Diaries: Chanel Andrade, 1 Daylan Lord Gent, 3 Paiges Gent, 2 Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2 Cyrus Howell, 8 Star Howell, 6 Serenity Sea Jones, 4 Chica Jones, 1 Little One Jones, 1 (They were twins) Crystal Martinez, 3 Isaiah Martinez, 4 Joseph Martinez, 8 Abigail Martinez, 11 Startle Summers, 1 Hollywood Sylvia, 2 Mayanah Schneider, 2 Melisa Morrison, 8 Newborns Summers & Little, (Born into the flames as their mothers died) Most of them weren't old enough to write when they died as "Brave Federal Law Enforcement Officers" used tanks and gas to "rescue" them from a church. But, exactly like the children of so many other dimly remembered places, they met their God in a house of worship surrounded, methodically tormented, and, finally, burned alive. If this is the first time you have seen their names, maybe you should ask yourself why. If you think it could never happen here, maybe you should think again,because it already has.If you are a person who prays, maybe you should remember them to God the next time you talk. And you might want to ask His mercy for a few other souls who will desperately need it, including ... William Jefferson Clinton, who did not feel their pain Janet Reno, who accepts responsibility for their deaths Ernst Kaltenbruner, who showed them the way Larry Potts Danny Coulson Richard Rogers The nameless, faceless agents of the FBI-HRT The masked members of the ATF-SRT The Texas Rangers who stood and watched The reporters who closed their eyes and spread the lies The Senators and Congressmen who continue to bury the truth, and The people of the United States of America, who did nothing to save them. "Better they had not been born than offend against these little ones." Remember Mt. Carmel ========================================================================== = * Forwarded messages sent on this mailing list ARE verified. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 07:14:27 PDT 1996 Article: 31229 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!tau.uac.net!uhog.mit.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!news.sol.net!uniserve!van-bc!news.rmii.com!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Actors screwed by Hollywood j*ws Date: 14 Apr 1996 14:51:14 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kr3d2$1jhe@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 SUBJECT: Re: Brando and the Jews > >> Marlin Brando is so old, rich and famous he can afford to tell the >> truth. The Jews do control Hollywood. But more than that, they control >> all thought in America and the entire White world. It really sucks. > >How do the Jews "control all thought" in the "white world"? Your question is moot. Controlling Hollywood IS one of the ways j*ws control thought. Let's have Mc OyVey conduct an impartial study. Take any TV station, any day of the week INCLUDING sunday, Ch 2 through 11, and document each offering for a twenty-four hour period. Let's see how many are WRITTEN/PRODUCED/DIRECTED by these scum?? We'll do the same for the next 15 movies to come out of Hollywood. Note that one rebbi said , "We are going to make his life a living hell. " If 'they' don't control the industry, the rebbi couldn't make this statement. Another of the infidels said, "Shame on the next j*w who gives him a job. " Ditto on what that means. AArdvark From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 07:39:02 PDT 1996 Article: 41737 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!scramble.lm.com!news.math.psu.edu!lepidopteran.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: jews demand removal of governor Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:05:19 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kte1v$11tu@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:03 AM From: Anton \ Internet: Fwd: AIN@tribeca.com/PPg7z Subject: ANA -- Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated _Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated_ (ANA) Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, Poland's Prime Minister, ordered an investigation today (4/10/96) into the decision of a provincial governor to allow a "Skinhead" group march at Auschwitz. The group of approximately 100 held a demonstration on Saturday and marched between Auschwitz and Birkenau, reportedly shouting anti-West slogans. The Roman Catholic church called the march "an abuse of freedom, for which the whole nation has to be ashamed. " The governor who approved the march said the group blackmailed him by threatening to hold a demonstration on April 16, the date young jews will commemorate the "holocaust" at the camps. Cimoszewicz responded to this, saying "We have to explain the blackmail issue. If this happened, the governor should have taken a different decision." Jewish groups in Poland called the march "a postmortem victory of the racist ideology of Hitler, actively helped by a representative of the government" and demanded the governor be dismissed. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 09:03:47 PDT 1996 Article: 31247 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Adventures in Nizkorland Date: 15 Apr 1996 13:12:51 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kti0j$m6c@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4kkiss$pfl@wi.combase.com> <31719e4c.10548747@news.srv.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Even Buchanan has been accused ot "denying" >>death by monoxide. I do recommend Nizkor to everyone. > >Does it *really* make that much difference whether they died of >asphyxiation or from NOx or CO poisoning? The mode of death is critical. Ask any jew. Most died of natural causes like non-jew war casualties. If the dumbed-down masses understood this, the holyhoax would be finished. > >And why do you find mass murder so damned "amusing?" Because Nitrous oxide is laughing gas. It wasn't a killer, either. Nazi Doctors used it for anesthesia so as not to hurt their patients touchy nerves. Sharon at Hohenhausen From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 09:03:49 PDT 1996 Article: 31250 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Evil Little German Babies Date: 15 Apr 1996 13:15:11 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kti4v$1nsg@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316a61e7.2309376@news.pacificnet.net> <4kp5ki$1gvm@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <31718b25.5645187@news.srv.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >On 13 Apr 1996 21:17:06 GMT, EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) wrote: > >>Why should everyone get so excited over this? We have learned that j*ws >>do this kind of escalating all the time. For instance, they increased a >>few normal civilian casualties of war into 6,000,000. Naturally, >>therefore, we expect the figures for evil Germans to escalate too. >Hi, Anton. How's things at the Aryan News Agency these days? >And they say there's no connection between Holocaust denial and >neo-Nazism. > John Morris What do ANA and neo-Nazism have to do with Dr. Huber? Sharon From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 09:03:50 PDT 1996 Article: 31251 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Evil Little German Babies Date: 15 Apr 1996 13:18:05 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 9 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktiad$agi@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316a61e7.2309376@news.pacificnet.net> <316dc65b.49610841@news.pacificnet.net> <4klqf0$lua@informer1.cis.mcmaster.ca> <4km4cr$jmn@wi.combase.com> <4kopj <4krmpv$cda@news.nyu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Am I mistaken in that there is general support for the use of >: 50,000,000 as the number of Germans involved? Fifty million??? What a joke. The book is jewry's newest attempt to keep the holyhoax alive. Listen, if 50,000,000 Germans were involved, there would not be a single jew left on this planet. Sharon From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 09:03:50 PDT 1996 Article: 31253 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Evil Little German Babies Date: 15 Apr 1996 13:20:26 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 7 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktieq$10bq@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316a61e7.2309376@news.pacificnet.net> <4kr7mp$39sk@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4krl3m$fjl@wi.combase.com> <4ks6gd$mm0@news.nyu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 "Collective" guilt? All 50,000,000 of them? This asinine jewish philosophy is precisely why we feel that the jews can have collective guilt, ie, CONSPIRACY. And they ARE tribal. Sharon From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 09:03:51 PDT 1996 Article: 31254 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: US Jew openly sides with Israel, against USS Liberty crew Date: 15 Apr 1996 13:22:21 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 42 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktiid$1ek6@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4iq0li$cat@shiva.usa.net> <4jhkvi$bss@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4joqf8$c72@nbdchc4.bnr.ca> <4jqthd$fm@wi.combase.com> <4jrdl5$2at@nbdchc4.bnr.ca> <4k21va$ccg@cloner3.netcom.com> <4k <4ks9la$ra0@news.nyu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Charles (joebuck@ix.netcom.com) wrote: >: If there was ever any doubt in the minds of those who wonder to what >: extent will some "American" Jews go to rationalize some of the more >: brazenly savage acts of the US's great "ally," Israel, I feel that what >: follows below may cause them to reconsider. >: For, in no uncertain terms, a self-described "US Jew" has explicitly >: stated that Israel's shocking attack on the American crew of the USS >: Liberty was quite . . . well, kosher. >: To quote the relevant passage from Mr. Grynspan: > >: "That the Israelis attacked the USS Liberty >: legitimately? . . . That's not an issue -- that's >: a foregone conclusion." ***************REMEMBER THE ATTACK ON THE LIBERTY************ Last June was the anniversary of the viscious attack on the USS Liberty, where, on June 8, 1967, 34 brave American sailors died horrible deaths, with 171 maimed. Israeli war planes and torpedo boats savagely attacked our ship in international waters. This slaughter took place after low- flying Israeli planes spent over 8 hours shadowing our ship. Cryptologists heard pilots correctly reporting it as "Liberty". Then came the attack, an all-out effort to destroy the ship and its crew, so that information it had gathered would be lost forever. The attack lasted more than 2 hours, but a few of the crew lived to tell the story of repeated strafing by Israel planes and boats. The jews MACHINE GUNNED WOUNDED SURVIVORS as they attempted to save themselves by setting afloat liferafts. Yes, we hear jews say "never forget" and "never again", but I don't think they are referring to this shocking incident. And, my fellow Americans, don't YOU ever forget, because it was your tax money, diverted from feeding the hungry in this country, which financed the entire bloody orgy. *************************8 Posted courtesy Hohenhausen From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 09:03:52 PDT 1996 Article: 31268 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!news.umbc.edu!cs.umd.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!news.math.psu.edu!lepidopteran.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Rekindle the ovens, man Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:11:16 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kted4$mag@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:03 AM From: Anton \ Internet: Fwd: AIN@tribeca.com/PPg7z Subject: ANA -- Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated _Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated_ (ANA) Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, Poland's Prime Minister, ordered an investigation today (4/10/96) into the decision of a provincial governor to allow a "Skinhead" group march at Auschwitz. The group of approximately 100 held a demonstration on Saturday and marched between Auschwitz and Birkenau, reportedly shouting anti-West slogans. The Roman Catholic church called the march "an abuse of freedom, for which the whole nation has to be ashamed. " The governor who approved the march said the group blackmailed him by threatening to hold a demonstration on April 16, the date young jews will commemorate the "holocaust" at the camps. Cimoszewicz responded to this, saying "We have to explain the blackmail issue. If this happened, the governor should have taken a different decision." Jewish groups in Poland called the march "a postmortem victory of the racist ideology of Hitler, actively helped by a representative of the government" and demanded the governor be dismissed. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 09:03:53 PDT 1996 Article: 31269 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!news.umbc.edu!cs.umd.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!news.math.psu.edu!lepidopteran.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Auschwitz too old to be reused?? Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:11:38 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktedq$rpo@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:03 AM From: Anton \ Internet: Fwd: AIN@tribeca.com/PPg7z Subject: ANA -- Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated _Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated_ (ANA) Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, Poland's Prime Minister, ordered an investigation today (4/10/96) into the decision of a provincial governor to allow a "Skinhead" group march at Auschwitz. The group of approximately 100 held a demonstration on Saturday and marched between Auschwitz and Birkenau, reportedly shouting anti-West slogans. The Roman Catholic church called the march "an abuse of freedom, for which the whole nation has to be ashamed. " The governor who approved the march said the group blackmailed him by threatening to hold a demonstration on April 16, the date young jews will commemorate the "holocaust" at the camps. Cimoszewicz responded to this, saying "We have to explain the blackmail issue. If this happened, the governor should have taken a different decision." Jewish groups in Poland called the march "a postmortem victory of the racist ideology of Hitler, actively helped by a representative of the government" and demanded the governor be dismissed. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 09:27:44 PDT 1996 Article: 41776 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!news.umbc.edu!cs.umd.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!news.math.psu.edu!lepidopteran.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Blacks injected with AIDS[was JewishDoctor Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:08:20 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 109 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kte7k$11tu@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:39 AM To: AIN@tribeca.com/PPg7z Subject: PIML 96041401 - Ex-prisioner Speaks PIML 96041401 / Forwarded by Militia Training NY [This message is, as usual, forwarded UNVERIFIED for your consideration]. 25 EDT >From:AIN > >I'm writing to tell you something I think you need to know. > >When I was a political prisoner incarcerated in the Metropolitan Correctional >Center (appropriately nicknamed the "Warehouse of Death") on Van Buren Street in >Chicago, they were bribing the most ignorant prisoners to allow themselves to be >injected with an "experimental AIDS vaccine", which I was informed by certain >guards and others was actually the AIDS virus. The bribes? An extra portion of>rice on their tray. And extra few minutes in the visiting room. Yes, that's the >kind of "bribes" they received. >SEVERAL times, they called me down to the "medical" department, which consisted >of a bunch of little filipino quacks. The TOLD me (as opposed to "asked" me) >that they were going to inject me with the experimental AIDS vaccine. At that >point, I would kick their little asses all over the room, they would call the >good squad, who would kick MY ass all over the room and then remove me from the >"medical" department. I suppose they were just too stupid to think about having >the guards hold me down while they injected their poison. > >They did this so many times that I finally worked out a system. Whenever they >would call my name for the medical department, my inmate friend, Sam Paiz, would >call my friend, Michael Cross, at this home in Indianapolis, and Michael Cross >would call my court-appointed attorney, William J. Stevens, to tell him to >contact the prison to demand that they not inject me with anything. >Then, Sam would call my wife, who would also call Stevens. >Then Sam would call Peter Sayer, who was with the Hare Krishna community in >Chicago, and he would also call Stevens, or go to his office with a band of Hare >Krishna devotees, if necessary. As funny as this may sound, I must say that the >Hare Krishnas were the ONLY religious organisation that helped me at all during >my imprisonment. Peter Sayer even got on my official visiting list, and visited >me when no one else would. >Sam would call a whole list of people, who would instantly call Stevens and put>extreme pressure on him. That, combined with the boxing abilities I learnt >from >my prizefighter grandfather, Bernard Boren, and perhaps some help from above,>prevented me from ever being injected with their so-called "AIDS vaccine" or the >AIDS virus, of whatever else it might have been. >You have probably heard about the Indian guru, Sri Rajneesh, who died of AIDS >soon after being released from his very brief stay in a U.S. federal prison.>Upon arriving in his native India, he very loudly and publically announced that >he had been injected with the AIDS virus while in federal prison. > >I have just read some very disturbing reports about the treatment Freeman LeRoy >Schweitzer is receiving in prison, which bring this all to mind. I do not wish >to upset the Schweitzer family; I only want to tell the truth, which can be >verified with the people I have mentioned here. I will leave it up to your >discretion whether or not to inform the Schweitzer family about this. If they >haven't already done this to Mr. Schweizter, he should really be on his guard,>in case they try. I'm very, very sorry to have to tell you about this, but I>feel it is my duty. >>We must expose these things to the whole world. > >Sadly, >Michael * To subscribe or unsubscribe, send message with subject line * World's Smallest Political Quiz http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 09:27:45 PDT 1996 Article: 41777 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!news.umbc.edu!cs.umd.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!news.math.psu.edu!lepidopteran.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Chicago prison news Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:10:07 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 104 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kteav$1a2a@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:41 AM To: Distribution List Subject: PIML 96041401 - Ex-prisioner Speaks PIML 96041401 / Forwarded to Patriots*** 25 EDT >From:AIN >I'm writing to tell you something I think you need to know. > >When I was a political prisoner incarcerated in the Metropolitan Correctional >Center (appropriately nicknamed the "Warehouse of Death") on Van Buren Street in >Chicago, they were bribing the most ignorant prisoners to allow themselves to be >injected with an "experimental AIDS vaccine", which I was informed by certain >guards and others was actually the AIDS virus. The bribes? An extra portion of>rice on their tray. And extra few minutes in the visiting room. Yes, that's the >kind of "bribes" they received. >SEVERAL times, they called me down to the "medical" department, which consisted >of a bunch of little filipino quacks. The TOLD me (as opposed to "asked" me) >that they were going to inject me with the experimental AIDS vaccine. At that >point, I would kick their little asses all over the room, they would call the >good squad, who would kick MY ass all over the room and then remove me from the >"medical" department. I suppose they were just too stupid to think about having >the guards hold me down while they injected their poison. > >They did this so many times that I finally worked out a system. Whenever they >would call my name for the medical department, my inmate friend, Sam Paiz, would >call my friend, Michael Cross, at this home in Indianapolis, and Michael Cross >would call my court-appointed attorney, William J. Stevens, to tell him to >contact the prison to demand that they not inject me with anything. >Then, Sam would call my wife, who would also call Stevens. >Then Sam would call Peter Sayer, who was with the Hare Krishna community in >Chicago, and he would also call Stevens, or go to his office with a band of Hare >Krishna devotees, if necessary. As funny as this may sound, I must say that the >Hare Krishnas were the ONLY religious organisation that helped me at all during >my imprisonment. Peter Sayer even got on my official visiting list, and visited >me when no one else would. >Sam would call a whole list of people, who would instantly call Stevens and put>extreme pressure on him. That, combined with the boxing abilities I learnt >from >my prizefighter grandfather, Bernard Boren, and perhaps some help from above,>prevented me from ever being injected with their so-called "AIDS vaccine" or the >AIDS virus, of whatever else it might have been. >You have probably heard about the Indian guru, Sri Rajneesh, who died of AIDS >soon after being released from his very brief stay in a U.S. federal prison.>Upon arriving in his native India, he very loudly and publically announced that >he had been injected with the AIDS virus while in federal prison. > >I have just read some very disturbing reports about the treatment Freeman LeRoy >Schweitzer is receiving in prison, which bring this all to mind. I do not wish >to upset the Schweitzer family; I only want to tell the truth, which can be >verified with the people I have mentioned here. I will leave it up to your >discretion whether or not to inform the Schweitzer family about this. If they >haven't already done this to Mr. Schweizter, he should really be on his guard,>in case they try. I'm very, very sorry to have to tell you about this, but I>feel it is my duty. >>We must expose these things to the whole world. > >Sadly, >Michael * To subscribe or unsubscribe, send message with subject line From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 10:31:01 PDT 1996 Article: 31279 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!tau.uac.net!uhog.mit.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!news.umass.edu!umassd.edu!ulowell.uml.edu!news.tacom.army.mil!marge.eaglequest.com!oxy.rust.net!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Spike Lee agrees w/ Brando Date: 14 Apr 1996 14:50:49 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kr3c9$17kq@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 SUBJECT: Re: Brando and the Jews > >> Marlin Brando is so old, rich and famous he can afford to tell the >> truth. The Jews do control Hollywood. But more than that, they control >> all thought in America and the entire White world. It really sucks. > >How do the Jews "control all thought" in the "white world"? Your question is moot. Controlling Hollywood IS one of the ways j*ws control thought. Let's have Mc OyVey conduct an impartial study. Take any TV station, any day of the week INCLUDING sunday, Ch 2 through 11, and document each offering for a twenty-four hour period. Let's see how many are WRITTEN/PRODUCED/DIRECTED by these scum?? We'll do the same for the next 15 movies to come out of Hollywood. Note that one rebbi said , "We are going to make his life a living hell. " If 'they' don't control the industry, the rebbi couldn't make this statement. Another of the infidels said, "Shame on the next j*w who gives him a job. " Ditto on what that means. AArdvark From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 10:31:03 PDT 1996 Article: 31280 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!tau.uac.net!uhog.mit.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!news.umass.edu!umassd.edu!ulowell.uml.edu!news.tacom.army.mil!marge.eaglequest.com!oxy.rust.net!news.cais.net!news.ac.net!news1.erols.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Brando joins growing unrest Date: 14 Apr 1996 14:50:21 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kr3bd$tv4@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 SUBJECT: Re: Brando and the Jews > >> Marlin Brando is so old, rich and famous he can afford to tell the >> truth. The Jews do control Hollywood. But more than that, they control >> all thought in America and the entire White world. It really sucks. > >How do the Jews "control all thought" in the "white world"? Your question is moot. Controlling Hollywood IS one of the ways j*ws control thought. Let's have Mc OyVey conduct an impartial study. Take any TV station, any day of the week INCLUDING sunday, Ch 2 through 11, and document each offering for a twenty-four hour period. Let's see how many are WRITTEN/PRODUCED/DIRECTED by these scum?? We'll do the same for the next 15 movies to come out of Hollywood. Note that one rebbi said , "We are going to make his life a living hell. " If 'they' don't control the industry, the rebbi couldn't make this statement. Another of the infidels said, "Shame on the next j*w who gives him a job. " Ditto on what that means. AArdvark From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 10:41:46 PDT 1996 Article: 18523 of alt.skinheads Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!loki.tor.hookup.net!hookup!news.umbc.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!wlbr!news.new-york.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads Subject: Can auschwitz be refired? Date: 15 Apr 1996 11:57:10 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktdim$1jja@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:03 AM From: Anton \ Internet: Fwd: AIN@tribeca.com/PPg7z Subject: ANA -- Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated _Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated_ (ANA) Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, Poland's Prime Minister, ordered an investigation today (4/10/96) into the decision of a provincial governor to allow a "Skinhead" group march at Auschwitz. The group of approximately 100 held a demonstration on Saturday and marched between Auschwitz and Birkenau, reportedly shouting anti-West slogans. The Roman Catholic church called the march "an abuse of freedom, for which the whole nation has to be ashamed. " The governor who approved the march said the group blackmailed him by threatening to hold a demonstration on April 16, the date young jews will commemorate the "holocaust" at the camps. Cimoszewicz responded to this, saying "We have to explain the blackmail issue. If this happened, the governor should have taken a different decision." Jewish groups in Poland called the march "a postmortem victory of the racist ideology of Hitler, actively helped by a representative of the government" and demanded the governor be dismissed. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 23:21:10 PDT 1996 Article: 31291 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: keep j*wish Doctors out of prison care Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:13:58 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 105 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktei6$1s30@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:39 AM To: Patriots Information Network From: AIN/z7PPg7 Subject: PIML 96041401 - Ex-prisioner Speaks >From: Williams Institute > >I'm writing to tell you something I think you need to know. > >When I was a political prisoner incarcerated in the Metropolitan Correctional >Center (appropriately nicknamed the "Warehouse of Death") on Van Buren Street in >Chicago, they were bribing the most ignorant prisoners to allow themselves to be >injected with an "experimental AIDS vaccine", which I was informed by certain >guards and others was actually the AIDS virus. The bribes? An extra portion of>rice on their tray. And extra few minutes in the visiting room. Yes, that's the >kind of "bribes" they received. >SEVERAL times, they called me down to the "medical" department, which consisted >of a bunch of little filipino quacks. The TOLD me (as opposed to "asked" me) >that they were going to inject me with the experimental AIDS vaccine. At that >point, I would kick their little asses all over the room, they would call the >good squad, who would kick MY ass all over the room and then remove me from the >"medical" department. I suppose they were just too stupid to think about having >the guards hold me down while they injected their poison. > >They did this so many times that I finally worked out a system. Whenever they >would call my name for the medical department, my inmate friend, Sam Paiz, would >call my friend, Michael Cross, at this home in Indianapolis, and Michael Cross >would call my court-appointed attorney, William J. Stevens, to tell him to >contact the prison to demand that they not inject me with anything. >Then, Sam would call my wife, who would also call Stevens. >Then Sam would call Peter Sayer, who was with the Hare Krishna community in >Chicago, and he would also call Stevens, or go to his office with a band of Hare >Krishna devotees, if necessary. As funny as this may sound, I must say that the >Hare Krishnas were the ONLY religious organisation that helped me at all during >my imprisonment. Peter Sayer even got on my official visiting list, and visited >me when no one else would. >Sam would call a whole list of people, who would instantly call Stevens and put>extreme pressure on him. That, combined with the boxing abilities I learnt >from >my prizefighter grandfather, Bernard Boren, and perhaps some help from above,>prevented me from ever being injected with their so-called "AIDS vaccine" or the >AIDS virus, of whatever else it might have been. >You have probably heard about the Indian guru, Sri Rajneesh, who died of AIDS >soon after being released from his very brief stay in a U.S. federal prison.>Upon arriving in his native India, he very loudly and publically announced that >he had been injected with the AIDS virus while in federal prison. > >I have just read some very disturbing reports about the treatment Freeman LeRoy >Schweitzer is receiving in prison, which bring this all to mind. I do not wish >to upset the Schweitzer family; I only want to tell the truth, which can be >verified with the people I have mentioned here. I will leave it up to your >discretion whether or not to inform the Schweitzer family about this. If they >haven't already done this to Mr. Schweizter, he should really be on his guard,>in case they try. I'm very, very sorry to have to tell you about this, but I>feel it is my duty. >>We must expose these things to the whole world. > >Sadly, >Michael * World's Smallest Political Quiz http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html ************************************************************************** From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 23:21:11 PDT 1996 Article: 31296 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: "10,000" extermination camps - "documented" Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:40:23 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktg3n$11ua@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <31669b42.7032542@news.pacificnet.net> <316d5081.17676042@news.srv.ualberta.ca> <316db96e.46301994@news.pacificnet.net> <3171862b.4370833@news.srv.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >>jmorris@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (John Morris) wrote: > >[snip] > >>>Tom Moran recently issued this challenge to list 0.5% of the "10,000 >>>camps" mentioned in a review of a new book by Jonathon Goldhagen as >>>camps for "incarcerating and destroying Jews." Don't be taken in by numbers liars. Very simply put, ANY prison used for ANY purpose was listed so as to increase the numbers. There weren't 10, 000 prisons in Germany EVER. Same goes for the figure 6,000,000. Try counting that high;see how long it takes you. The crematoria were antiques. There weren't enough Germans/prisoners/ foreigners to shovel that much shit. Think about it. Sharon at Hohenhausen From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 23:21:12 PDT 1996 Article: 31297 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: "10,000" extermination camps - "documented" Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:43:02 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 7 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktg8m$1vfe@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <31669b42.7032542@news.pacificnet.net> <316d5081.17676042@news.srv.ualberta.ca> <316db96e.46301994@news.pacificnet.net> <3171862b.4370833@news.srv.ualberta.ca> <4ks784$p1i@wi.combase.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 > In addition to these age groups - of the approximately >280,000 Jews in Germany proper and Austria on 31 October 1941, >approximately 30% are over 65 years old - The jews own numbers are a joke. Let's see..... 6,000,000 divided by 280, 000, carry the one, add........... From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 23:32:18 PDT 1996 Article: 17400 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news.internetMCI.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: who was benny FREEDMAN anyway? Date: 15 Apr 1996 11:24:04 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 402 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktbkk$10tc@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 [1] A Jewish Defector Speaks Here is part of the testimony of Benjamin Freedman, the Jewish businessman who defected from the Jewish establishment that I referred to in my earlier post. Begin article: ---------------------------------------------- A Jewish Defector Warns America: Benjamin Freedman Speaks by Benjamin H. Freedman Introductory Note Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20thcentury. Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States. Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times. This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us -- his warning to the West -- is more urgent than ever before. -- K.A.S. * HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of our government. For many reasons, too many and too complex to go into here at this time, the Zionists and their co-religionists rule these United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country. Now you may say that is a very broad statement, but let me show you what happened while we were all asleep. What happened? World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey. Within two years Germany had won that war: not only won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean. Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, with one week's food supply -- and after that, starvation. At that time, the French army had mutinied. They had lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting, they were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed. Not a shot had been fired on German soil. Not one enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, Germany was offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: “Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.” England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that -- seriously. They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated. While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and -- I am going to be brief because it's a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make -- they said: “Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally.” The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They told England: “We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war.” In other words, they made this deal: “We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey.” Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain, that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war. However, they did make that promise, in October of 1916. And shortly after that -- I don't know how many here remember it -- the United States, which was almost totally pro-German, entered the war as Britain's ally. I say that the United States was almost totally pro-German because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews; and they, the Jews, were pro-German. They were pro-German because many of them had come from Germany, and also they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar. The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. These German-Jew bankers, like Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: “As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!” But they poured money into Germany, they fought beside Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime. Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like a traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. They were no good. Shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany. The Zionists in London had sent cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis, saying “Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war.” That's how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room. There was absolutely no reason for World War I to be our war. We were railroaded into -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. That is something that the people of the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War I. After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: “Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war.” They didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, which was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration. The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that. That is where all the trouble started. The United States got in the war. The United States crushed Germany. You know what happened. When the war ended, and the Germans went to Paris for the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened? The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations who claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, said, “How about Palestine for us?” And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, “Oh, so that was the game! That's why the United States came into the war.” The Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered the terrific reparations that were slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and were determined to get it at any cost. That brings us to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they had been in Germany. You had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as important in industry and finance as is Bernard Baruch in this country. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the North German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder, who was the banker for the Hohenzollern family. You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were the big merchant bankers -- the biggest in the world. The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about that. The Germans felt: “Well, that was quite a sellout.” It was a sellout that might be compared to this hypothetical situation: Suppose the United States was at war with the Soviet Union. And we were winning. And we told the Soviet Union: “Well, let's quit. We offer you peace terms. Let's forget the whole thing.” And all of a sudden Red China came into the war as an ally of the Soviet Union. And throwing them into the war brought about our defeat. A crushing defeat, with reparations the likes of which man's imagination cannot encompass. Imagine, then, after that defeat, if we found out that it was the Chinese in this country, our Chinese citizens, who all the time we had thought were loyal citizens working with us, were selling us out to the Soviet Union and that it was through them that Red China was brought into the war against us. How would we feel, then, in the United States against Chinese? I don't think that one of them would dare show his face on any street. There wouldn't be enough convenient lampposts to take care of them. Imagine how we would feel. Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. They'd been so nice to them: from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia, they all went to Germany. And Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And here they had sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than the fact that they wanted Palestine as a so-called “Jewish commonwealth.” Now Nahum Sokolow, and all the great leaders and great names that you read about in connection with Zionism today, in 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, and 1923 wrote in all their papers -- and the press was filled with their statements -- that the feeling against the Jews in Germany is due to the fact that they realized that this great defeat was brought about by Jewish intercession in bringing the United States into the war. The Jews themselves admitted that. It wasn't that the Germans in 1919 discovered that a glass of Jewish blood tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenschner Beer. There was no religious feeling. There was no sentiment against those people merely on account of their religious belief. It was all political. It was economic. It was anything but religious. Nobody cared in Germany whether a Jew went home and pulled down the shades and said “Shema' Yisroel” or “Our Father.” Nobody cared in Germany any more than they do in the United States. Now this feeling that developed later in Germany was due to one thing: the Germans held the Jews responsible for their crushing defeat. And World War I had been started against Germany for no reason for which Germany was responsible. They were guilty of nothing. Only of being successful. They built up a big navy. They built up world trade. You must remember that Germany at the time of the French Revolution consisted of 300 small city-states, principalities, dukedoms, and so forth. Three hundred separate little political entities. And between that time, between the times of Napoleon and Bismarck, they were consolidated into one state. And within 50 years they became one of the world's great powers. Their navy was rivalling Great Britain's, they were doing business all over the world, they could undersell anybody, they could make better products. What happened as a result of that? There was a conspiracy between England, France, and Russia to slap down Germany. There isn't one historian in the world who can find a valid reason why those three countries decided to wipe Germany off the map politically. When Germany realized that the Jews were responsible for her defeat, they naturally resented it. But not a hair on the head of any Jew was harmed. Not a single hair. Professor Tansill, of Georgetown University, who had access to all the secret papers of the State Department, wrote in his book, and quoted from a State Department document written by Hugo Schoenfelt, a Jew whom Cordell Hull sent to Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-called camps of political prisoners, who wrote back that he found them in very fine condition. They were in excellent shape, with everybody treated well. And they were filled with Communists. Well, a lot of them were Jews, because the Jews happened to comprise about 98 per cent of the Communists in Europe at that time. And there were some priests there, and ministers, and labor leaders, and Masons, and others who had international affiliations. Some background is in order: In 1918-1919 the Communists took over Bavaria for a few days. Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht and a group of other Jews took over the government for three days. In fact, when the Kaiser ended the war he fled to Holland because he thought the Communists were going to take over Germany as they did Russia and that he was going to meet the same fate as the Czar. So he fled to Holland for safety, for security. After the Communist threat in Germany was quashed, the Jews were still working, trying to get back into their former status, and the Germans fought them in every way they could without hurting a single hair on anyone's head. They fought them the same way that, in this country, the Prohibitionists fought anyone who was interested in liquor. They didn't fight one another with pistols. Well, that's the way they were fighting the Jews in Germany. And at that time, mind you, there were 80 to 90 million Germans, and there were only 460,000 Jews. About one half of one per cent of the population of Germany were Jews. And yet they controlled all the press, and they controlled most of the economy because they had come in with cheap money when the mark was devalued and bought up practically everything. The Jews tried to keep a lid on this fact. They didn't want the world to really understand that they had sold out Germany, and that the Germans resented that. The Germans took appropriate action against the Jews. They, shall I say, discriminated against them wherever they could. They shunned them. The same way that we would shun the Chinese, or the Negroes, or the Catholics, or anyone in this country who had sold us out to an enemy and brought about our defeat. After a while, the Jews of the world called a meeting in Amsterdam. Jews from every country in the world attended this meeting in July 1933. And they said to Germany: “You fire Hitler, and you put every Jew back into his former position, whether he was a Communist or no matter what he was. You can't treat us that way. And we, the Jews of the world, are serving an ultimatum upon you.” You can imagine what the Germans told them. So what did the Jews do? In 1933, when Germany refused to surrender to the world conference of Jews in Amsterdam, the conference broke up, and Mr. Samuel Untermyer, who was the head of the American delegation and the president of the whole conference, came to the United States and went from the steamer to the studios of the Columbia Broadcasting System and made a radio broadcast throughout the United States in which he in effect said, “The Jews of the world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a sacred conflict against the Germans. And we are going to starve them into surrender. We are going to use a world-wide boycott against them. That will destroy them because they are dependent upon their export business.” And it is a fact that two thirds of Germany's food supply had to be imported, and it could only be imported with the proceeds of what they exported. So if Germany could not export, two thirds of Germany's population would have to starve. There was just not enough food for more than one third of the population. Now in this declaration, which I have here, and which was printed in the New York Times on August 7, 1933, Mr. Samuel Untermyer boldly stated that “this economic boycott is our means of self-defense. President Roosevelt has advocated its use in the National Recovery Administration,” which some of you may remember, where everybody was to be boycotted unless he followed the rules laid down by the New Deal, and which was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of that time. Nevertheless, the Jews of the world declared a boycott against Germany, and it was so effective that you couldn't find one thing in any store anywhere in the world with the words “made in Germany” on it. In fact, an executive of the Woolworth Company told me that they had to dump millions of dollars worth of crockery and dishes into the river; that their stores were boycotted if anyone came in and found a dish marked “made in Germany,” they were picketed with signs saying “Hitler,” “murderer,” and so forth, something like these sit-ins that are taking place in the South. At a store belonging to the R. H. Macy chain, which was controlled by a family called Strauss who also happen to be Jews, a woman found stockings there which came from Chemnitz, marked “made in Germany.” Well, they were cotton stockings and they may have been there 20 years, since I've been observing women's legs for many years and it's been a long time since I've seen any cotton stockings on them. I saw Macy's boycotted, with hundreds of people walking around with signs saying “murderers,” “Hitlerites,” and so forth. Now up to that time, not one hair on the head of any Jew had been hurt in Germany. There was no suffering, there was no starvation, there was no murder, there was nothing. Naturally, the Germans said, “Who are these people to declare a boycott against us and throw all our people out of work, and make our industries come to a standstill? Who are they to do that to us?” They naturally resented it. Certainly they painted swastikas on stores owned by Jews. Why should a German go in and give his money to a storekeeper who was part of a boycott that was going to starve Germany into surrendering to the Jews of the world, who were going to dictate who their premier or chancellor was to be? Well, it was ridiculous. The boycott continued for some time, but it wasn't until 1938, when a young Jew from Poland walked into the German embassy in Paris and shot a German official, that the Germans really started to get rough with the Jews in Germany. And you found From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 23:32:19 PDT 1996 Article: 17402 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: Poles love to march too/ umpahpahumpahp Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:15:21 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktekp$1a32@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:03 AM From: Anton \ Internet: Fwd: AIN@tribeca.com/PPg7z Subject: ANA -- Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated _Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated_ (ANA) Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, Poland's Prime Minister, ordered an investigation today (4/10/96) into the decision of a provincial governor to allow a "Skinhead" group march at Auschwitz. The group of approximately 100 held a demonstration on Saturday and marched between Auschwitz and Birkenau, reportedly shouting anti-West slogans. The Roman Catholic church called the march "an abuse of freedom, for which the whole nation has to be ashamed. " The governor who approved the march said the group blackmailed him by threatening to hold a demonstration on April 16, the date young jews will commemorate the "holocaust" at the camps. Cimoszewicz responded to this, saying "We have to explain the blackmail issue. If this happened, the governor should have taken a different decision." Jewish groups in Poland called the march "a postmortem victory of the racist ideology of Hitler, actively helped by a representative of the government" and demanded the governor be dismissed. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 15 23:32:20 PDT 1996 Article: 17403 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: Bring out the bands Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:15:40 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktelc$mqe@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:03 AM From: Anton \ Internet: Fwd: AIN@tribeca.com/PPg7z Subject: ANA -- Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated _Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated_ (ANA) Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, Poland's Prime Minister, ordered an investigation today (4/10/96) into the decision of a provincial governor to allow a "Skinhead" group march at Auschwitz. The group of approximately 100 held a demonstration on Saturday and marched between Auschwitz and Birkenau, reportedly shouting anti-West slogans. The Roman Catholic church called the march "an abuse of freedom, for which the whole nation has to be ashamed. " The governor who approved the march said the group blackmailed him by threatening to hold a demonstration on April 16, the date young jews will commemorate the "holocaust" at the camps. Cimoszewicz responded to this, saying "We have to explain the blackmail issue. If this happened, the governor should have taken a different decision." Jewish groups in Poland called the march "a postmortem victory of the racist ideology of Hitler, actively helped by a representative of the government" and demanded the governor be dismissed. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 00:19:28 PDT 1996 Article: 15809 of misc.activism.militia Approved: militia-request@atype.com (e04733ad66d40ff1b48da6bf75e05793) From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Return-Path: Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!news.thenet.net!trellis.wwnet.com!news.inc.net!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!uhog.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!atype.com!militia-request Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 14:58:54 GMT Message-ID: <829580334$2194@atype.com> Subject: benjamin FREEDMAN Lines: 403 [1] A Jewish Defector Speaks Here is part of the testimony of Benjamin Freedman, the Jewish businessman who defected from the Jewish establishment that I referred to in my earlier post. Begin article: ---------------------------------------------- A Jewish Defector Warns America: Benjamin Freedman Speaks by Benjamin H. Freedman Introductory Note Benjamin H. Freedman was one of the most intriguing and amazing individuals of the 20thcentury. Mr. Freedman, born in 1890, was a successful Jewish businessman of New York City who was at one time the principal owner of the Woodbury Soap Company. He broke with organized Jewry after the Judeo-Communist victory of 1945, and spent the remainder of his life and the great preponderance of his considerable fortune, at least 2.5 million dollars, exposing the Jewish tyranny which has enveloped the United States. Mr. Freedman knew what he was talking about because he had been an insider at the highest levels of Jewish organizations and Jewish machinations to gain power over our nation. Mr. Freedman was personally acquainted with Bernard Baruch, Samuel Untermyer, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Joseph Kennedy, and John F. Kennedy, and many more movers and shakers of our times. This speech was given before a patriotic audience in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C., on behalf of Conde McGinley's patriotic newspaper of that time, Common Sense. Though in some minor ways this wide-ranging and extemporaneous speech has become dated, Mr. Freedman's essential message to us -- his warning to the West -- is more urgent than ever before. -- K.A.S. * HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, the Zionists and their co-religionists have complete control of our government. For many reasons, too many and too complex to go into here at this time, the Zionists and their co-religionists rule these United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country. Now you may say that is a very broad statement, but let me show you what happened while we were all asleep. What happened? World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey. Within two years Germany had won that war: not only won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean. Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, with one week's food supply -- and after that, starvation. At that time, the French army had mutinied. They had lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting, they were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed. Not a shot had been fired on German soil. Not one enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, Germany was offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: “Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.” England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that -- seriously. They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated. While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and -- I am going to be brief because it's a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make -- they said: “Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally.” The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They told England: “We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war.” In other words, they made this deal: “We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Turkey.” Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain, that never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine should offer it as coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war. However, they did make that promise, in October of 1916. And shortly after that -- I don't know how many here remember it -- the United States, which was almost totally pro-German, entered the war as Britain's ally. I say that the United States was almost totally pro-German because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews; and they, the Jews, were pro-German. They were pro-German because many of them had come from Germany, and also they wanted to see Germany lick the Czar. The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. These German-Jew bankers, like Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: “As long as France and England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!” But they poured money into Germany, they fought beside Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime. Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, went to England and they made this deal. At that time, everything changed, like a traffic light that changes from red to green. Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a sudden the Germans were no good. They were villains. They were Huns. They were shooting Red Cross nurses. They were cutting off babies' hands. They were no good. Shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany. The Zionists in London had sent cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis, saying “Go to work on President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war.” That's how the United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room. There was absolutely no reason for World War I to be our war. We were railroaded into -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. That is something that the people of the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War I. After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: “Well, we performed our part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war.” They didn't know whether the war would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took the form of a letter, which was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration. The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration, that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. I don't think I could make it more emphatic than that. That is where all the trouble started. The United States got in the war. The United States crushed Germany. You know what happened. When the war ended, and the Germans went to Paris for the Paris Peace Conference in 1919 there were 117 Jews there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know. Now what happened? The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all these nations who claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, said, “How about Palestine for us?” And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, “Oh, so that was the game! That's why the United States came into the war.” The Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated, they suffered the terrific reparations that were slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine and were determined to get it at any cost. That brings us to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they had been in Germany. You had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as important in industry and finance as is Bernard Baruch in this country. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the North German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder, who was the banker for the Hohenzollern family. You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were the big merchant bankers -- the biggest in the world. The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about that. The Germans felt: “Well, that was quite a sellout.” It was a sellout that might be compared to this hypothetical situation: Suppose the United States was at war with the Soviet Union. And we were winning. And we told the Soviet Union: “Well, let's quit. We offer you peace terms. Let's forget the whole thing.” And all of a sudden Red China came into the war as an ally of the Soviet Union. And throwing them into the war brought about our defeat. A crushing defeat, with reparations the likes of which man's imagination cannot encompass. Imagine, then, after that defeat, if we found out that it was the Chinese in this country, our Chinese citizens, who all the time we had thought were loyal citizens working with us, were selling us out to the Soviet Union and that it was through them that Red China was brought into the war against us. How would we feel, then, in the United States against Chinese? I don't think that one of them would dare show his face on any street. There wouldn't be enough convenient lampposts to take care of them. Imagine how we would feel. Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. They'd been so nice to them: from 1905 on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia, they all went to Germany. And Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And here they had sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than the fact that they wanted Palestine as a so-called “Jewish commonwealth.” Now Nahum Sokolow, and all the great leaders and great names that you read about in connection with Zionism today, in 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, and 1923 wrote in all their papers -- and the press was filled with their statements -- that the feeling against the Jews in Germany is due to the fact that they realized that this great defeat was brought about by Jewish intercession in bringing the United States into the war. The Jews themselves admitted that. It wasn't that the Germans in 1919 discovered that a glass of Jewish blood tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenschner Beer. There was no religious feeling. There was no sentiment against those people merely on account of their religious belief. It was all political. It was economic. It was anything but religious. Nobody cared in Germany whether a Jew went home and pulled down the shades and said “Shema' Yisroel” or “Our Father.” Nobody cared in Germany any more than they do in the United States. Now this feeling that developed later in Germany was due to one thing: the Germans held the Jews responsible for their crushing defeat. And World War I had been started against Germany for no reason for which Germany was responsible. They were guilty of nothing. Only of being successful. They built up a big navy. They built up world trade. You must remember that Germany at the time of the French Revolution consisted of 300 small city-states, principalities, dukedoms, and so forth. Three hundred separate little political entities. And between that time, between the times of Napoleon and Bismarck, they were consolidated into one state. And within 50 years they became one of the world's great powers. Their navy was rivalling Great Britain's, they were doing business all over the world, they could undersell anybody, they could make better products. What happened as a result of that? There was a conspiracy between England, France, and Russia to slap down Germany. There isn't one historian in the world who can find a valid reason why those three countries decided to wipe Germany off the map politically. When Germany realized that the Jews were responsible for her defeat, they naturally resented it. But not a hair on the head of any Jew was harmed. Not a single hair. Professor Tansill, of Georgetown University, who had access to all the secret papers of the State Department, wrote in his book, and quoted from a State Department document written by Hugo Schoenfelt, a Jew whom Cordell Hull sent to Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-called camps of political prisoners, who wrote back that he found them in very fine condition. They were in excellent shape, with everybody treated well. And they were filled with Communists. Well, a lot of them were Jews, because the Jews happened to comprise about 98 per cent of the Communists in Europe at that time. And there were some priests there, and ministers, and labor leaders, and Masons, and others who had international affiliations. Some background is in order: In 1918-1919 the Communists took over Bavaria for a few days. Rosa Luxemburg and Karl Liebknecht and a group of other Jews took over the government for three days. In fact, when the Kaiser ended the war he fled to Holland because he thought the Communists were going to take over Germany as they did Russia and that he was going to meet the same fate as the Czar. So he fled to Holland for safety, for security. After the Communist threat in Germany was quashed, the Jews were still working, trying to get back into their former status, and the Germans fought them in every way they could without hurting a single hair on anyone's head. They fought them the same way that, in this country, the Prohibitionists fought anyone who was interested in liquor. They didn't fight one another with pistols. Well, that's the way they were fighting the Jews in Germany. And at that time, mind you, there were 80 to 90 million Germans, and there were only 460,000 Jews. About one half of one per cent of the population of Germany were Jews. And yet they controlled all the press, and they controlled most of the economy because they had come in with cheap money when the mark was devalued and bought up practically everything. The Jews tried to keep a lid on this fact. They didn't want the world to really understand that they had sold out Germany, and that the Germans resented that. The Germans took appropriate action against the Jews. They, shall I say, discriminated against them wherever they could. They shunned them. The same way that we would shun the Chinese, or the Negroes, or the Catholics, or anyone in this country who had sold us out to an enemy and brought about our defeat. After a while, the Jews of the world called a meeting in Amsterdam. Jews from every country in the world attended this meeting in July 1933. And they said to Germany: “You fire Hitler, and you put every Jew back into his former position, whether he was a Communist or no matter what he was. You can't treat us that way. And we, the Jews of the world, are serving an ultimatum upon you.” You can imagine what the Germans told them. So what did the Jews do? In 1933, when Germany refused to surrender to the world conference of Jews in Amsterdam, the conference broke up, and Mr. Samuel Untermyer, who was the head of the American delegation and the president of the whole conference, came to the United States and went from the steamer to the studios of the Columbia Broadcasting System and made a radio broadcast throughout the United States in which he in effect said, “The Jews of the world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a sacred conflict against the Germans. And we are going to starve them into surrender. We are going to use a world-wide boycott against them. That will destroy them because they are dependent upon their export business.” And it is a fact that two thirds of Germany's food supply had to be imported, and it could only be imported with the proceeds of what they exported. So if Germany could not export, two thirds of Germany's population would have to starve. There was just not enough food for more than one third of the population. Now in this declaration, which I have here, and which was printed in the New York Times on August 7, 1933, Mr. Samuel Untermyer boldly stated that “this economic boycott is our means of self-defense. President Roosevelt has advocated its use in the National Recovery Administration,” which some of you may remember, where everybody was to be boycotted unless he followed the rules laid down by the New Deal, and which was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of that time. Nevertheless, the Jews of the world declared a boycott against Germany, and it was so effective that you couldn't find one thing in any store anywhere in the world with the words “made in Germany” on it. In fact, an executive of the Woolworth Company told me that they had to dump millions of dollars worth of crockery and dishes into the river; that their stores were boycotted if anyone came in and found a dish marked “made in Germany,” they were picketed with signs saying “Hitler,” “murderer,” and so forth, something like these sit-ins that are taking place in the South. At a store belonging to the R. H. Macy chain, which was controlled by a family called Strauss who also happen to be Jews, a woman found stockings there which came from Chemnitz, marked “made in Germany.” Well, they were cotton stockings and they may have been there 20 years, since I've been observing women's legs for many years and it's been a long time since I've seen any cotton stockings on them. I saw Macy's boycotted, with hundreds of people walking around with signs saying “murderers,” “Hitlerites,” and so forth. Now up to that time, not one hair on the head of any Jew had been hurt in Germany. There was no suffering, there was no starvation, there was no murder, there was nothing. Naturally, the Germans said, “Who are these people to declare a boycott against us and throw all our people out of work, and make our industries come to a standstill? Who are they to do that to us?” They naturally resented it. Certainly they painted swastikas on stores owned by Jews. Why should a German go in and give his money to a storekeeper who was part of a boycott that was going to starve Germany into surrendering to the Jews of the world, who were going to dictate who their premier or chancellor was to be? Well, it was ridiculous. The boycott continued for some time, but it wasn't until 1938, when a young Jew from Poland walked into the German embassy in Paris and shot a German official, that the Germans really started to get rough with the Jews in Germany. And you found From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 00:19:30 PDT 1996 Article: 15810 of misc.activism.militia Approved: militia-request@atype.com (fbf7908ddcf51120e6b85a812608d9aa) From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Return-Path: Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!news.thenet.net!trellis.wwnet.com!news.inc.net!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!uhog.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!atype.com!militia-request Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 14:58:42 GMT Message-ID: <829580322$2181@atype.com> Subject: Linda Mull*r where are you Lines: 6 Linda,please e-mail me. az From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 00:19:31 PDT 1996 Article: 15813 of misc.activism.militia Approved: militia-request@atype.com (52ac3aae3c989044e20503726c641f4c) From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Return-Path: Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!news.thenet.net!trellis.wwnet.com!news.inc.net!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!uhog.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!atype.com!militia-request Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 14:58:14 GMT Message-ID: <829580294$2126@atype.com> Subject: j*wish newspaper refuses Mt Carmel ad Lines: 103 Subject: Remember Mt. Carmel Forwarded: From AntiZion Information Network: X-POP3-Rcpt:AArdvark@tribeca.com Return-Path: 71232.1740@anonymous Date: 12 Apr 96 23:53:07 EDT From: Sandra To: BlindCopyReceiver:; BC: All AIN Contacts The ad which follows appears in the April 12th edition of the Cicero Gazette. Just so you will not be under any misconceptions about us having a 'free press' here's a little story that unfolded this morning - A kind and generous gentleman from Bowling Green, Kentucky took a copy of this ad to his local newspaper and paid to have it run as an ad in the paper. Today, I had a call from the newspaper's office telling me that they would not be able to run the ad. I told the lady who called that she would have to contact the gentleman who placed the ad and let him know that since he had already paid them for it to run. When asked why they would not run it she deferred to her management and their lawyer. The point is that he could not even pay to get his message out in some places. . . . Would you please send a copy of this transmission and/or a copy of the actual ad in the Cicero Gazette to your elected representatives timed to arrive next week before the April 19th anniversary of the Waco Massacre. We would appreciate it very much. WE SHALL NEVER FORGET! For Life and Liberty, Sandra for Hohenhausen =================================== AD: Unlike Anne Frank, These Kids Did Not Keep Diaries: Chanel Andrade, 1 Daylan Lord Gent, 3 Paiges Gent, 2 Bobbie Lane Koresh, 2 Cyrus Howell, 8 Star Howell, 6 Serenity Sea Jones, 4 Chica Jones, 1 Little One Jones, 1 (They were twins) Crystal Martinez, 3 Isaiah Martinez, 4 Joseph Martinez, 8 Abigail Martinez, 11 Startle Summers, 1 Hollywood Sylvia, 2 Mayanah Schneider, 2 Melisa Morrison, 8 Newborns Summers & Little, (Born into the flames as their mothers died) Most of them weren't old enough to write when they died as "Brave Federal Law Enforcement Officers" used tanks and gas to "rescue" them from a church. But, exactly like the children of so many other dimly remembered places, they met their God in a house of worship surrounded, methodically tormented, and, finally, burned alive. If this is the first time you have seen their names, maybe you should ask yourself why. If you think it could never happen here, maybe you should think again,because it already has.If you are a person who prays, maybe you should remember them to God the next time you talk. And you might want to ask His mercy for a few other souls who will desperately need it, including ... William Jefferson Clinton, who did not feel their pain Janet Reno, who accepts responsibility for their deaths Ernst Kaltenbruner, who showed them the way Larry Potts Danny Coulson Richard Rogers The nameless, faceless agents of the FBI-HRT The masked members of the ATF-SRT The Texas Rangers who stood and watched The reporters who closed their eyes and spread the lies The Senators and Congressmen who continue to bury the truth, and The people of the United States of America, who did nothing to save them. "Better they had not been born than offend against these little ones." Remember Mt. Carmel ========================================================================== = * Forwarded messages sent on this mailing list ARE verified. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 00:19:31 PDT 1996 Article: 15814 of misc.activism.militia Approved: militia-request@atype.com (7126048908692d3adb435565d83fc579) From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Return-Path: Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!news.thenet.net!trellis.wwnet.com!news.inc.net!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!uhog.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!atype.com!militia-request Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 14:58:06 GMT Message-ID: <829580286$2113@atype.com> Subject: NJ Christian Patriot Lines: 33 Date: Thursday, 11-Apr-96 09:05 AM Subject: Patriot raided by BATF New Jersey-Evesham 4/10/96 [from the Trentonian] A team of federal agents raided the home of Russel Fauver, 45, who has ties to the Christian Patriot Defense League Militia. He was previously convicted in 1983 for storing weapons and ammunition at his house, and in 1977 for possession of a machine gun, police said. Fauver is a 'survivalist ' who lives in a densely wooded area. Thirty [count 'em, 30!] investigators descended on Fauver's home on April 4, and found: a military flame-thrower with fuel tanks, eight assault rifles, 10 hand guns, five rifles, expolsive igniters and thousands of rounds of ammo. An ATF dog sniffed out ammo buried in the yard. Evesham Ploice Lt. j. Wainwright described Fauver's militia group as "sort of unorganized right now" {did the Lt. know he made a pun here?}, and said the "hairy hermit was pretty passive." Submitted by James Brolin, CNM From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 00:19:32 PDT 1996 Article: 15841 of misc.activism.militia Approved: militia-request@atype.com (aa9cb92ad7fc45bd475e0862ac6e0176) From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Return-Path: Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!news.thenet.net!trellis.wwnet.com!news.inc.net!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!uhog.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!atype.com!militia-request Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 14:57:57 GMT Message-ID: <829580277$2101@atype.com> Subject: Montana legal issues Lines: 175 Date: Wednesday, 10-Apr-96 10:53 AM Here are some very interesting observations on the freemen indictments: >From the Liberty Newswire service. See copyright notice at bottom. Montana Standoff – Part Two By Arthur Galloway (LN) The Freemen of Justus Township have already provided monumental victories for the patriotic movement that is gathering strength in America. How so? If you take a look at the federal indictment you will notice some glaring problems and conspicuous absences. COUNT 1. Conspiracy to obtain money and property by means of false pretenses via defrauding financial institutions. Eyewitness sources say Schwietzer and the Freemen never intended on obtaining money or property by fraud. On the contrary, they did everything they could to ensure they were disbursing debt with the commercial liens properly. Eyewitnesses tell us that whenever a banking institution called the Freemen in regard to the instrument, they took the time to fully explain the instruments and how hey could be redeemed with the Comptroller of the Currency. If this account is true, then there is no "conspiracy to defraud". The conspiracy count never questions the validity of the securities perfected by the Freemen. Indeed, the indictment centers around the Freemen’s successful attempts to convert these securities into cash and property via the disbursement of consumer debt. Confidential sources also tell us that the U.C.C. uses two ways to legally describe drafts: Valid and invalid. These descriptive terms are not used in the indictment. For instance, you would expect the indictment to read, "The defendants then converted INVALID instruments into money by means of fraud." Instead the indictment reads (paraphrased), "The defendants then converted WORTHLESS DOCUMENTS into money by means of presenting them as negotiable, well-knowing this was false." As any researched person in the patriot movement will tell you. Paper money is a "worthless document", as well as, bonds, stocks, bank loans (ledger entries), etc. In all of these instruments there is NO INTRINSIC VALUE. Gold has intrinsic value, its used for all sorts of tangible industrial and consumer purposes. Paper instruments have no measurable intrinsic value, the value (if anything) is in what they represent, not within the instrument itself. Again, the validity of the Freemen’s perfected securities that the instruments are backed on, are never called into question by the indictment! COUNTS 2-17. Mail Fraud. The basis of these indictments hinge upon the conspiracy count. If there is no conspiracy to "obtain money and property by means of false pretenses via defrauding financial institutions" then there is no mail fraud. It was all done in good faith. COUNTS 18-35. Bank Fraud. Again, the basis of these indictments hinge upon the conspiracy count. If there is no conspiracy to "obtain money and property by means of false pretenses via defrauding financial institutions" then there is no bank fraud. It was all done in good faith. COUNTS 36-37. Carrying firearms while interfering with commerce. In this October 1995 incident, the Freemen confiscated an ABC camera and other video equipment, when the news crew would not leave the boundaries of the Clark Ranch with their video equipment. The Freemen confiscated the equipment because the news crew would not respect the Freemen’s demand to be left alone. COUNT 38-51. Possessing, bearing, and purchasing firearms and ammunition as fugitives from justice, having previously been convicted or [merely] indicted for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year. Ten of these counts have to do with a single purchase of three . 22 caliber rifles and ammunition. That sums up what is in the indictment. More interesting is what is not in the indictment. 1. There are no indictments regarding the method the Freemen used to perfect their securities under the U.C.C. 2. There are no indictments regarding the Freemen establishing their own township, under the common law. 3. There are no indictments for appointing justices of the peace, constables, etc. 4. There are no indictments for the various warrants of arrest and bounties that their common law court placed on the heads of "oathbreaking" government officials. One bounty alone, was for one million dollars on Nicholas Murnion the Garfield County Attorney at Jordan. While the mainstream media mocks the Freemen’s Township by saying thing like, "The Freemen claim to have their own government and court," etc. The facts and circumstantial evidence that we have indicates that neither the U.S. nor the State of Montana did anything that officially refuted the Freemen’s securities, government, court, warrants and bounties. If we see no future indictments on these items, you can count them as colossal victories for the patriot movement. Apparently, the Freemen at Justus Township were on to many things that the authorities knew they couldn’t touch in law. Thus, the conspicuously missing claims and charges. As the evidence mounts as to how close the Freemen were in finally giving the patriot movement in America some real teeth, by cornering the U.S. and the State of Montana in a myriad of ways, we can see that the de facto government was faced with four options. 1. Publicly acknowledge the limits of the U.S. and the State of Montana, as well as, that they have been engaging in vastly unconstitutional activities since at least 1933. 2. Publicly state, once and for all, that the Constitution for the united States of America is null and void. 3. Pull another WACO and keep a lid on the kind of information you are now getting here. 4. Engage in a mass cover-up. By capturing the Freemen, locking ‘em up, drugging ‘em, giving them a phony trial, and throwing away the key. And at the same time confiscate their documentation and books for burial. Even if the worse should come to pass at Justus, the Freemen have undoubtedly brought the patriot movement forward by leaps and bounds. Law and truth are closing in on the "oathbreakers". Note: All counts state, "District of Montana" rather than "the state of Montana". Were you aware that the U.S. thinks you live in districts and not in states? Count 38 states, "having been convicted in the Supreme Court for Nevada County, California…" Were you aware that Nevada County has its own supreme courts? *** From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 00:47:11 PDT 1996 Article: 18597 of alt.skinheads Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!insync!uunet!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads Subject: Skinheads to march in Germany Date: 15 Apr 1996 11:56:48 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktdi0$vau@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:03 AM From: Anton \ Internet: Fwd: AIN@tribeca.com/PPg7z Subject: ANA -- Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated _Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated_ (ANA) Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, Poland's Prime Minister, ordered an investigation today (4/10/96) into the decision of a provincial governor to allow a "Skinhead" group march at Auschwitz. The group of approximately 100 held a demonstration on Saturday and marched between Auschwitz and Birkenau, reportedly shouting anti-West slogans. The Roman Catholic church called the march "an abuse of freedom, for which the whole nation has to be ashamed. " The governor who approved the march said the group blackmailed him by threatening to hold a demonstration on April 16, the date young jews will commemorate the "holocaust" at the camps. Cimoszewicz responded to this, saying "We have to explain the blackmail issue. If this happened, the governor should have taken a different decision." Jewish groups in Poland called the march "a postmortem victory of the racist ideology of Hitler, actively helped by a representative of the government" and demanded the governor be dismissed. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 00:47:13 PDT 1996 Article: 18598 of alt.skinheads Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!insync!uunet!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads Subject: j*ws injecting prisoners with AIDS Date: 15 Apr 1996 11:55:42 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 109 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktdfu$1tb0@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:39 AM To: AIN@tribeca.com/PPg7z Antizion Information Network Subject: PIML 96041401 - Ex-prisioner Speaks PIML 96041401 / Forwarded to Patriot Information Mailing List: [This message is, as usual, forwarded UNVERIFIED for your consideration]. 25 EDT >From: Williams Institute <100705.1252@CompuServe.COM> > >I'm writing to tell you something I think you need to know. > >When I was a political prisoner incarcerated in the Metropolitan Correctional >Center (appropriately nicknamed the "Warehouse of Death") on Van Buren Street in >Chicago, they were bribing the most ignorant prisoners to allow themselves to be >injected with an "experimental AIDS vaccine", which I was informed by certain >guards and others was actually the AIDS virus. The bribes? An extra portion of>rice on their tray. And extra few minutes in the visiting room. Yes, that's the >kind of "bribes" they received. >SEVERAL times, they called me down to the "medical" department, which consisted >of a bunch of little filipino quacks. The TOLD me (as opposed to "asked" me) >that they were going to inject me with the experimental AIDS vaccine. At that >point, I would kick their little asses all over the room, they would call the >good squad, who would kick MY ass all over the room and then remove me from the >"medical" department. I suppose they were just too stupid to think about having >the guards hold me down while they injected their poison. > >They did this so many times that I finally worked out a system. Whenever they >would call my name for the medical department, my inmate friend, Sam Paiz, would >call my friend, Michael Cross, at this home in Indianapolis, and Michael Cross >would call my court-appointed attorney, William J. Stevens, to tell him to >contact the prison to demand that they not inject me with anything. >Then, Sam would call my wife, who would also call Stevens. >Then Sam would call Peter Sayer, who was with the Hare Krishna community in >Chicago, and he would also call Stevens, or go to his office with a band of Hare >Krishna devotees, if necessary. As funny as this may sound, I must say that the >Hare Krishnas were the ONLY religious organisation that helped me at all during >my imprisonment. Peter Sayer even got on my official visiting list, and visited >me when no one else would. >Sam would call a whole list of people, who would instantly call Stevens and put>extreme pressure on him. That, combined with the boxing abilities I learnt >from >my prizefighter grandfather, Bernard Boren, and perhaps some help from above,>prevented me from ever being injected with their so-called "AIDS vaccine" or the >AIDS virus, of whatever else it might have been. >You have probably heard about the Indian guru, Sri Rajneesh, who died of AIDS >soon after being released from his very brief stay in a U.S. federal prison.>Upon arriving in his native India, he very loudly and publically announced that >he had been injected with the AIDS virus while in federal prison. > >I have just read some very disturbing reports about the treatment Freeman LeRoy >Schweitzer is receiving in prison, which bring this all to mind. I do not wish >to upset the Schweitzer family; I only want to tell the truth, which can be >verified with the people I have mentioned here. I will leave it up to your >discretion whether or not to inform the Schweitzer family about this. If they >haven't already done this to Mr. Schweizter, he should really be on his guard,>in case they try. I'm very, very sorry to have to tell you about this, but I>feel it is my duty. >>We must expose these things to the whole world. > >Sadly, >Michael * To subscribe or unsubscribe, send message with subject line * World's Smallest Political Quiz http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 09:15:56 PDT 1996 Article: 31370 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!news.thenet.net!news.supernet.net!news.cais.net!news.sfo.com!news.zeitgeist.net!bdt.com!news.ossi.com!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: "10,000" extermination camps - "documented" Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:36:27 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktfsb$m7c@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316bb25f.843428@news.pacificnet.net> <4khj1h$4kq@news.enter.net> <4klo1m$lua@informer1.cis.mcmaster.ca> <316f9700.416056@news.pacificnet.net> <4kokta$lbc@informer1.cis.mcmaster.ca> <4ks1dg$iin@informer1.cis.mcmaster.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 There are rather more options for >"solutions" under eliminationist antisemitism, >extermination being only one. My apologies, especially >to Goldhagen, for inaccurately representing his >argument with this careless error. Not to worry. The RESULT is more important than the means, although expeditiousness is desireable under any circumstance. Sharon at Hohenhausen From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 09:15:57 PDT 1996 Article: 31392 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!news1.best.com!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: #Publisher Decides not to Issue Book by Holocaust Denier Date: 15 Apr 1996 13:08:06 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kthnm$1pos@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <31655a92.10262939@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <4k4u40$hfo@crl6.crl.com> <828821771snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> <4k9duc$24r@atlas.uniserve.com> <829001735snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> <4kedmr$d9e@news.nyu.edu> <829174332snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> <316d218f.5656613@ <4kmgui$j4c@news.nyu.edu> <4kqkg5$sfa@wi.combase.com> <4krlk7$bhf@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <4krtf1$ju7@wi.combase.com> <15apr96.01921783.0037@unbvm1.csd.unb.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >> You were asleep all through the Salman Rushdie affair? > >That would be the bruhaha about _The Satanic Verses_, right? The >book I can buy in any good bookstore? Boy, those threats sure >stopped that book from getting around. Those threats were from non-jewish sources. The jews just LOVE any book which criticizes Muslims or Christians, ergo, copies EVERYWHERE. Sharon at Hohenhausen From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 09:15:58 PDT 1996 Article: 31393 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!news1.best.com!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: #Publisher Decides not to Issue Book by Holocaust Denier Date: 15 Apr 1996 13:05:33 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kthit$m6c@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <31655a92.10262939@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <4k4u40$hfo@crl6.crl.com> <828821771snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> <4k9duc$24r@atlas.uniserve.com> <829001735snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> <4kedmr$d9e@news.nyu.edu> <829174332snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> <316d218f.5656613@ <4kmgui$j4c@news.nyu.edu> <4kqkg5$sfa@wi.combase.com> <4krnji$cda@news.nyu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 > >: >REALITY CHECK #1: Mr. Giwer has no evidence of any sort that St. >: >Martin's Press, or anyone there, was threatened; OR that any threats to >: >anyone, anywhere, were the cause of the publciation cancellation. He is >: >just trolling as usual. Not true at all. In fact, numerous jews were quoted in the papers as being so repulsed at the inimitable Martin's Press that they swore to bombard all sources with connections with their venom. Read the Washington Post, pal. Sharon at Hohenhausen From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 10:02:48 PDT 1996 Article: 42041 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!agis!news.tacom.army.mil!ulowell.uml.edu!tribune.meitca.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Auschwitz march approved Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:05:45 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kte2p$rpo@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:03 AM From: Anton \ Internet: Fwd: AIN@tribeca.com/PPg7z Subject: ANA -- Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated _Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated_ (ANA) Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, Poland's Prime Minister, ordered an investigation today (4/10/96) into the decision of a provincial governor to allow a "Skinhead" group march at Auschwitz. The group of approximately 100 held a demonstration on Saturday and marched between Auschwitz and Birkenau, reportedly shouting anti-West slogans. The Roman Catholic church called the march "an abuse of freedom, for which the whole nation has to be ashamed. " The governor who approved the march said the group blackmailed him by threatening to hold a demonstration on April 16, the date young jews will commemorate the "holocaust" at the camps. Cimoszewicz responded to this, saying "We have to explain the blackmail issue. If this happened, the governor should have taken a different decision." Jewish groups in Poland called the march "a postmortem victory of the racist ideology of Hitler, actively helped by a representative of the government" and demanded the governor be dismissed. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 10:02:48 PDT 1996 Article: 42042 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!agis!news.tacom.army.mil!ulowell.uml.edu!tribune.meitca.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Skinheads on the move Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:06:03 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4kte3b$191q@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 14-Apr-96 01:03 AM From: Anton \ Internet: Fwd: AIN@tribeca.com/PPg7z Subject: ANA -- Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated _Approval of Auschwitz March Investigated_ (ANA) Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, Poland's Prime Minister, ordered an investigation today (4/10/96) into the decision of a provincial governor to allow a "Skinhead" group march at Auschwitz. The group of approximately 100 held a demonstration on Saturday and marched between Auschwitz and Birkenau, reportedly shouting anti-West slogans. The Roman Catholic church called the march "an abuse of freedom, for which the whole nation has to be ashamed. " The governor who approved the march said the group blackmailed him by threatening to hold a demonstration on April 16, the date young jews will commemorate the "holocaust" at the camps. Cimoszewicz responded to this, saying "We have to explain the blackmail issue. If this happened, the governor should have taken a different decision." Jewish groups in Poland called the march "a postmortem victory of the racist ideology of Hitler, actively helped by a representative of the government" and demanded the governor be dismissed. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 12:23:15 PDT 1996 Article: 25684 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!news.tcst.com!news.spectrum.titan.com!dildog.lgc.com!news.sesqui.net!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: Re: Asian invasion of England! Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:24:11 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 7 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktf5b$1les@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <199604142004.naa08255@eternity.c2.org> <3171a6ed.68e@scott.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >> and other : 1,618,330 2.8% 6.0% (3,618, 330) >> Jewish : 410,000 .6% Where are all these .6% coming from? Add them up worldwide... I thought they were all cremated by Hilter!! Good grief, something's wrong here. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 16 18:45:23 PDT 1996 Article: 25686 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!news.tcst.com!news.spectrum.titan.com!dildog.lgc.com!news.sesqui.net!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: Re: Brando and the Jews Date: 15 Apr 1996 12:28:43 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ktfdr$190q@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >And a damn fine thing for you, given the considerable superiority of our >work. We're about 2% of the (US) population but I'll eat my yarmulke if >we don't account for 20% of US Nobelists. Methinks the jew braggeth too much. Sharon at Hohenhausen From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 18 07:41:32 PDT 1996 Article: 31733 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!news.tcst.com!news.spectrum.titan.com!dildog.lgc.com!news.sesqui.net!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Israeli agency head stole shekels Date: 17 Apr 1996 14:08:26 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l2u0q$1bna@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 16-Apr-96 09:53 AM _Ex-Head of Jewish Agency Convicted of Fraud_ (ANA) The former head of Israel's Jewish Agency, Simcha Dinitz, was convicted yesterday (4/15/96) of fraud for making personal charges with an agency's credit card while on trips in America. The Jewish Agency is a quasi-governmental agency which serves as a link with world jewry and assists in bringing immigrants to Israel. It has an annual budget of about $500 million and is funded primarily from contributions from jews around the world. Dinitz became head of the agency in 1987 and resigned last year when allegations of fraud came about. Dinitz, who is a former ambassador to the US, claims he is innocent. The Jerusalem District Court convicted him on fraud for using a credit card issued by Syms, a New York clothing store, but acquitted him on a second charge for using an American Express card that belonged to the agency. It was not revealed how much Dinitz charged on each card. A date has not been set for sentencing. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 18 07:41:33 PDT 1996 Article: 31734 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!news.tcst.com!news.spectrum.titan.com!dildog.lgc.com!news.sesqui.net!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: simcha convicted of fraud Date: 17 Apr 1996 14:09:01 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l2u1t$f78@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 16-Apr-96 09:53 AM _Ex-Head of Jewish Agency Convicted of Fraud_ (ANA) The former head of Israel's Jewish Agency, Simcha Dinitz, was convicted yesterday (4/15/96) of fraud for making personal charges with an agency's credit card while on trips in America. The Jewish Agency is a quasi-governmental agency which serves as a link with world jewry and assists in bringing immigrants to Israel. It has an annual budget of about $500 million and is funded primarily from contributions from jews around the world. Dinitz became head of the agency in 1987 and resigned last year when allegations of fraud came about. Dinitz, who is a former ambassador to the US, claims he is innocent. The Jerusalem District Court convicted him on fraud for using a credit card issued by Syms, a New York clothing store, but acquitted him on a second charge for using an American Express card that belonged to the agency. It was not revealed how much Dinitz charged on each card. A date has not been set for sentencing. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 18 08:13:53 PDT 1996 Article: 42562 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!thor.atcon.com!news.nstn.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: the devils people..........what the fuck?? Date: 18 Apr 1996 07:50:01 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 23 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l4s79$24pa@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4imd4b$t9f@news.ios.com> <4j5326$47d@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4j83r6$6eq@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <315bff06.2909@tandem.com> <315c068f.978598@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <315f6b1c.63bb@n2.net> <4k1u2g$a7v@tribune.concentric.net> <4k5a4k$bs2@tribune.concentric.net> <3169f7be.4bdc@n2.net> <4klfp0$4la@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <316eb475.132d@compunet.net> <316efbb9.7812@netset.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 > >The only fucking way anyone on this planet is ever going to get along is if we're >invaded by aliens and we all have a mutual enemy. The way I see it we're the same..I'm >tired of hearing about how evil white people are...how dumb blacks are...how greedy >orientals are.....blah blah blah.. its the same recycled shit. The early european whites >did evil shit by taking over the land of the native indians..ok...they brought black >slaves from africa...ok...you know they learned this shit from watching african and or >indian tribes?...they both made slaves out of people from other tibes... guess >what..WERE ALL IN THE SAME FUCKING BOAT! We have been invaded, but not by aliens. The US of A has been invaded by aionists whose agenda is to destroy all of the above as punishment for some alleged holocaust. We see the signs of destruction all around, from tyrannical taxation to dumbed-down school systems. The mutual enemy is identified. Once the rest of us stop bickering, the remedy will be clear; they know it and thus keep y'all at each others' throats. When WE realize it, the skies will clear. Sharon From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 18 08:13:55 PDT 1996 Article: 42564 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!thor.atcon.com!news.nstn.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: the devils people..........what the fuck?? Date: 18 Apr 1996 07:50:21 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 23 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l4s7t$1fcg@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4imd4b$t9f@news.ios.com> <4j5326$47d@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4j83r6$6eq@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <315bff06.2909@tandem.com> <315c068f.978598@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <315f6b1c.63bb@n2.net> <4k1u2g$a7v@tribune.concentric.net> <4k5a4k$bs2@tribune.concentric.net> <3169f7be.4bdc@n2.net> <4klfp0$4la@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <316eb475.132d@compunet.net> <316efbb9.7812@netset.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 > >The only fucking way anyone on this planet is ever going to get along is if we're >invaded by aliens and we all have a mutual enemy. The way I see it we're the same..I'm >tired of hearing about how evil white people are...how dumb blacks are...how greedy >orientals are.....blah blah blah.. its the same recycled shit. The early european whites >did evil shit by taking over the land of the native indians..ok...they brought black >slaves from africa...ok...you know they learned this shit from watching african and or >indian tribes?...they both made slaves out of people from other tibes... guess >what..WERE ALL IN THE SAME FUCKING BOAT! We have been invaded, but not by aliens. The US of A has been invaded by zionists whose agenda is to destroy all of the above as punishment for some alleged holocaust. We see the signs of destruction all around, from tyrannical taxation to dumbed-down school systems. The mutual enemy is identified. Once the rest of us stop bickering, the remedy will be clear; they know it and thus keep y'all at each others' throats. When WE realize it, the skies will clear. Sharon From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 18 15:36:59 PDT 1996 Article: 25913 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: Re: j*w accuses ALL Germans of hate Date: 18 Apr 1996 14:15:11 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 9 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l5ipf$sli@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4l2ucc$jp4@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <4l5c40$2b3g@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >ncrccjc responds: > >H*ber finally posts an interesting article. Good work M*rk. The article was written by Anton of ANA. Dr. Huber is away on tour right now. Sharon Stone From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Fri Apr 19 07:51:12 PDT 1996 Article: 17639 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!kryten.awinc.com!laslo.netnet.net!en.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: DINITZ & EISNER chasing non $7 Billion Date: 18 Apr 1996 14:09:00 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l5ids$1c3c@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Jerusalem 4/17/96 Two jewish groups have been attempting to steal from the Swiss banking industry by claiming that 'billions' on deposit belong to holocaust victims. The jewish Agency, whose head simcha DINITZ was convicted on April 15th on fraud charges, and the World jewish Congress, presided over by mickey EISNER, producer of the vile movie _Priests_, have been trying to force Swiss banks to disclose what happened to some $7 BILLION alleged to have been deposited by jews later killed in the holocaust. They are said to have sumggled their money out of Nazi controlled territory. The agencies, after an audit revealed no such deposits, accused the banks of having given the unclaimed deposits to European governments rather than trying to locate the heirs. They insist the money was there and want the banks to disclose what happened to it. This author suggests that since the groups want the rightful owners to have the money, if it exists, it should be given back to to the German people from whom it was originally taken, leading to the collapse of the German economic system, and hence to Hitler's rise to power. ************************************ 4/17/96 American Catholic leaders yesterday condemned slick Willie's veto of a bill banning 'partial-birth abortions.' They charged the US is moving closer to accepting infanticide. In unprecedented action, eight Roman Catholic Cardinals and the Pres. of the Nat'l Conference of Catholic Bishops wrote Clinton saying they will urge people to appeal to Congress to override the veto. *********************************** 4/17/96 Trenton NJ The State Division of Consumer Affairs and the State Lottery Commissiion have filed suit against j*wish owned Woodbridge Financial Corp to stop it >from doing business in NJ. The Delaware-based company deceives lottery winners into 'assigning' it their lottery earnings. The 'assignment' practice is a growing problem in NJ. The firm gives winners instant cash, but charges usurious interest rates. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Fri Apr 19 07:58:22 PDT 1996 Article: 25962 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!kryten.awinc.com!laslo.netnet.net!en.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: Sharon takes over jewsbriefs Date: 18 Apr 1996 14:11:02 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 42 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l5ihm$j4a@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 While Huber is away, jewsbriefs will be written by Sharon Stone: Jerusalem 4/17/96 Two jewish groups have been attempting to steal from the Swiss banking industry by claiming that 'billions' on deposit belong to holocaust victims. The jewish Agency, whose head simcha DINITZ was convicted on April 15th on fraud charges, and the World jewish Congress, presided over by mickey EISNER, producer of the vile movie _Priests_, have been trying to force Swiss banks to disclose what happened to some $7 BILLION alleged to have been deposited by jews later killed in the holocaust. They are said to have sumggled their money out of Nazi controlled territory. The agencies, after an audit revealed no such deposits, accused the banks of having given the unclaimed deposits to European governments rather than trying to locate the heirs. They insist the money was there and want the banks to disclose what happened to it. This author suggests that since the groups want the rightful owners to have the money, if it exists, it should be given back to to the German people from whom it was originally taken, leading to the collapse of the German economic system, and hence to Hitler's rise to power. ************************************ 4/17/96 American Catholic leaders yesterday condemned slick Willie's veto of a bill banning 'partial-birth abortions.' They charged the US is moving closer to accepting infanticide. In unprecedented action, eight Roman Catholic Cardinals and the Pres. of the Nat'l Conference of Catholic Bishops wrote Clinton saying they will urge people to appeal to Congress to override the veto. *********************************** 4/17/96 Trenton NJ The State Division of Consumer Affairs and the State Lottery Commissiion have filed suit against j*wish owned Woodbridge Financial Corp to stop it >from doing business in NJ. The Delaware-based company deceives lottery winners into 'assigning' it their lottery earnings. The 'assignment' practice is a growing problem in NJ. The firm gives winners instant cash, but charges usurious interest rates. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Fri Apr 19 08:08:21 PDT 1996 Article: 19305 of alt.skinheads Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads Subject: The plot thickens Date: 19 Apr 1996 06:57:42 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 64 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l7dh6$1spo@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 4/18/96 #764 Subject: World War III Israel has unleashed a Holocaust, heretofore unknown to mankind, against the innocent people of Lebanon. Cities are being razed, thousands of bodies lie murdered beneath the rubble. The horsemen of the Apocalypse are afield. Except for the tears in my eyes, I would have chuckled: here is President Clinton at a newsbrief, somber-faced, explaining how he is trying to negotiate an end to the events unfolding today. What utter contempt he has for the American people! He's the very SON-OF-A-BITCH who armed the perpetrators. For the record, the Lebanese are not war-like people. Abandoned by America, disarmed by Israel, they don't have the physical wherewithall to cope with Israeli's enemy Hezbola. In years past, Israel demonstrated her ability to invade a sovereign country, street by street, building by building, room by room to evicerate the terrorists. She did it then; she can do it now. Instead, the j*ws have elected to destroy an innocent people, children, men, and women, with a venom and carnage strange to civilized beings. There must needs be an end to it. The Regan years fade into memory, and with them also the cognizance of what was familiarly called the USSR. Youngsters today have no clue as to the power and awesomeness which once kept the world's status-quo in balance. Perchance one hears a murmer of Bosnia, so far away, and more recently, mention of some place called Chechnia. What does it all mean? But tucked away in the hills of the now-dismantled Soviet Union are people of rich and mixed backgrounds. There are those of Slavic blood who are Muslims; there are those of Semitic blood who are Christians ( no thanks to the Ottomans). But something else, also faded into memory, is tucked away in those hills and cities: TEN THOUSAND KNOWN NUCLEAR WARHEADS, each perched precipitously atop a viable rocketry device. We here at the Hohenhausen Guild pray for the end of the slaughter, and ask, nay, beseech, the Russian Brothers of the Lebanese peoples to deliver their hardware to its natural destinations: Tel-Aviv Haifa Yafo Ramla Beersheba Gaza Ashdod Nazareth Hadera Hebron Akko Ashqelon Nablus Netanya and Tiberias that the world can once again be pure. May G*d have mercy on our souls. -Sandra From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Fri Apr 19 09:31:20 PDT 1996 Article: 16099 of misc.activism.militia Approved: militia-request@atype.com (f64a7aa44dd6577742e1ae41a44f86a6) From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Return-Path: Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!olivea!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!atype.com!militia-request Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 7:03:16 GMT Message-ID: <829897396$18650@atype.com> Subject: Lebanon under siege Lines: 65 4/18/96 #764 Subject: World War III Israel has unleashed a Holocaust, heretofore unknown to mankind, against the innocent people of Lebanon. Cities are being razed, thousands of bodies lie murdered beneath the rubble. The horsemen of the Apocalypse are afield. Except for the tears in my eyes, I would have chuckled: here is President Clinton at a newsbrief, somber-faced, explaining how he is trying to negotiate an end to the events unfolding today. What utter contempt he has for the American people! He's the very SON-OF-A-BITCH who armed the perpetrators. For the record, the Lebanese are not war-like people. Abandoned by America, disarmed by Israel, they don't have the physical wherewithall to cope with Israeli's enemy Hezbola. In years past, Israel demonstrated her ability to invade a sovereign country, street by street, building by building, room by room to evicerate the terrorists. She did it then; she can do it now. Instead, the j*ws have elected to destroy an innocent people, children, men, and women, with a venom and carnage strange to civilized beings. There must needs be an end to it. The Regan years fade into memory, and with them also the cognizance of what was familiarly called the USSR. Youngsters today have no clue as to the power and awesomeness which once kept the world's status-quo in balance. Perchance one hears a murmer of Bosnia, so far away, and more recently, mention of some place called Chechnia. What does it all mean? But tucked away in the hills of the now-dismantled Soviet Union are people of rich and mixed backgrounds. There are those of Slavic blood who are Muslims; there are those of Semitic blood who are Christians ( no thanks to the Ottomans). But something else, also faded into memory, is tucked away in those hills and cities: TEN THOUSAND KNOWN NUCLEAR WARHEADS, each perched precipitously atop a viable rocketry device. We here at the Hohenhausen Guild pray for the end of the slaughter, and ask, nay, beseech, the Russian Brothers of the Lebanese peoples to deliver their hardware to its natural destinations: Tel-Aviv Haifa Yafo Ramla Beersheba Gaza Ashdod Nazareth Hadera Hebron Akko Ashqelon Nablus Netanya and Tiberias that the world can once again be pure. May G*d have mercy on our souls. -Sandra From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Fri Apr 19 15:04:42 PDT 1996 Article: 17678 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!en.com!in-news.erinet.com!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!imci3!imci4!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: New Holocaust Date: 19 Apr 1996 06:55:22 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 64 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l7dcq$1sja@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 4/18/96 #764 Subject: World War III Israel has unleashed a Holocaust, heretofore unknown to mankind, against the innocent people of Lebanon. Cities are being razed, thousands of bodies lie murdered beneath the rubble. The horsemen of the Apocalypse are afield. Except for the tears in my eyes, I would have chuckled: here is President Clinton at a newsbrief, somber-faced, explaining how he is trying to negotiate an end to the events unfolding today. What utter contempt he has for the American people! He's the very SON-OF-A-BITCH who armed the perpetrators. For the record, the Lebanese are not war-like people. Abandoned by America, disarmed by Israel, they don't have the physical wherewithall to cope with Israeli's enemy Hezbola. In years past, Israel demonstrated her ability to invade a sovereign country, street by street, building by building, room by room to evicerate the terrorists. She did it then; she can do it now. Instead, the j*ws have elected to destroy an innocent people, children, men, and women, with a venom and carnage strange to civilized beings. There must needs be an end to it. The Regan years fade into memory, and with them also the cognizance of what was familiarly called the USSR. Youngsters today have no clue as to the power and awesomeness which once kept the world's status-quo in balance. Perchance one hears a murmer of Bosnia, so far away, and more recently, mention of some place called Chechnia. What does it all mean? But tucked away in the hills of the now-dismantled Soviet Union are people of rich and mixed backgrounds. There are those of Slavic blood who are Muslims; there are those of Semitic blood who are Christians ( no thanks to the Ottomans). But something else, also faded into memory, is tucked away in those hills and cities: TEN THOUSAND KNOWN NUCLEAR WARHEADS, each perched precipitously atop a viable rocketry device. We here at the Hohenhausen Guild pray for the end of the slaughter, and ask, nay, beseech, the Russian Brothers of the Lebanese peoples to deliver their hardware to its natural destinations: Tel-Aviv Haifa Yafo Ramla Beersheba Gaza Ashdod Nazareth Hadera Hebron Akko Ashqelon Nablus Netanya and Tiberias that the world can once again be pure. May G*d have mercy on our souls. -Sandra From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Fri Apr 19 18:44:42 PDT 1996 Article: 31980 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.sdsmt.edu!tau.uac.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.netusa.net!news.newnorth.net!chi-news.cic.net!news-w.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Evil Little Huber Babies Date: 18 Apr 1996 08:21:00 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l4u1c$1vdo@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316a61e7.2309376@news.pacificnet.net> <4klqbv$lua@informer1.cis.mcmaster.ca> <4kmv1t$bli@atlas.uniserve.com> <4kp5eh$1340@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <4kpl61$k9i@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Huber is a performance artist who is >attempting to live out the antisemitic stereotypes that Goldhagen >discusses in his book. This notion that Jews are genetically predestined >to "destroy society" is precisely the sort of magical thinking that >Goldhagen notes was rife in pre-Nazi Germany. GOLDHAGEN is not a historian: he tends to examine the phenomenon of Nazi Germany, and the behavior of Germans during the war years, in isolation >from the broader historical picture, both in space & time. This approach has the effect of reinforcing the tendency to treat the (alleged) holocaust as a unique event. This is profoundly dangerous & unhistorical. As historians are painfully aware, many peoples.....are capable of genocide. The Pentateuch is full of it: read the Book of Joshua.The Turkish genocide of Armenians in 1915 has been termed by scholars "a dress rehearsal for the holocaust." Why? because although the impulse behind the massacres was entirely Turkish, thousands of German officers and NCOs were serving with Turkish authorities at the time. It would be interesting to know how many survived through 1943. ---Paul Johnson From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Fri Apr 19 19:05:07 PDT 1996 Article: 17699 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!insync!uunet!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: Re: who was benny FREEDMAN anyway? Date: 18 Apr 1996 09:15:48 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l5184$orq@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4ktbkk$10tc@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <4l1c90$9uc@news1.panix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 fresh@panix.com (Andrew Mathis) wrote: > >So Huber: > >Does this mean any Jew low enough to kiss your filthy butt is a worthy >human being? Why are you addressing 'Huber'? Sharon From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 20 09:01:51 PDT 1996 Article: 31997 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.sdsmt.edu!tau.uac.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!insync!news.azstarnet.com!news.cais.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Zionism close to extinction Date: 19 Apr 1996 06:54:18 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 64 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l7daq$1uom@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 4/18/96 #764 Subject: World War III Israel has unleashed a Holocaust, heretofore unknown to mankind, against the innocent people of Lebanon. Cities are being razed, thousands of bodies lie murdered beneath the rubble. The horsemen of the Apocalypse are afield. Except for the tears in my eyes, I would have chuckled: here is President Clinton at a newsbrief, somber-faced, explaining how he is trying to negotiate an end to the events unfolding today. What utter contempt he has for the American people! He's the very SON-OF-A-BITCH who armed the perpetrators. For the record, the Lebanese are not war-like people. Abandoned by America, disarmed by Israel, they don't have the physical wherewithall to cope with Israeli's enemy Hezbola. In years past, Israel demonstrated her ability to invade a sovereign country, street by street, building by building, room by room to evicerate the terrorists. She did it then; she can do it now. Instead, the j*ws have elected to destroy an innocent people, children, men, and women, with a venom and carnage strange to civilized beings. There must needs be an end to it. The Regan years fade into memory, and with them also the cognizance of what was familiarly called the USSR. Youngsters today have no clue as to the power and awesomeness which once kept the world's status-quo in balance. Perchance one hears a murmer of Bosnia, so far away, and more recently, mention of some place called Chechnia. What does it all mean? But tucked away in the hills of the now-dismantled Soviet Union are people of rich and mixed backgrounds. There are those of Slavic blood who are Muslims; there are those of Semitic blood who are Christians ( no thanks to the Ottomans). But something else, also faded into memory, is tucked away in those hills and cities: TEN THOUSAND KNOWN NUCLEAR WARHEADS, each perched precipitously atop a viable rocketry device. We here at the Hohenhausen Guild pray for the end of the slaughter, and ask, nay, beseech, the Russian Brothers of the Lebanese peoples to deliver their hardware to its natural destinations: Tel-Aviv Haifa Yafo Ramla Beersheba Gaza Ashdod Nazareth Hadera Hebron Akko Ashqelon Nablus Netanya and Tiberias that the world can once again be pure. May G*d have mercy on our souls. -Sandra From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 20 09:01:52 PDT 1996 Article: 32025 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.sdsmt.edu!tau.uac.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!insync!uunet!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Evil Little German Babies Date: 18 Apr 1996 08:11:07 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l4ter$116g@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316a61e7.2309376@news.pacificnet.net> <4kr7mp$39sk@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4krl3m$fjl@wi.combase.com> <4ks6gd$mm0@news.nyu.edu> <4ktieq$10bq@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <4l3o7d$al7@shiva.usa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 This asinine jewish philosophy is precisely why we feel that >the jews can have collective guilt, ie, CONSPIRACY. And they >ARE tribal. > >What is truly asinine is the way that Mr. Huber makes up a philosophy >of "collective guilt" and then retroactively assigns it to "the Jews" >in order to justify applying it against Jews. >>There is no such thing as collective guilt in Jewish philosophy or >theology, regardless of what ignoramuses like Mr. Huber may assert. >Harry Katz Not so at all. In fact, it is the basis for israel's destruction of houses & families of 'suspected' Palestinian terrorists. Same has been widely debated in the Press. Sharon From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 20 09:01:53 PDT 1996 Article: 32073 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!cobia.gulf.net!news.duke.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!homer.alpha.net!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!sgigate.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Press addresses new hate book Date: 17 Apr 1996 14:05:13 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 132 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l2tqp$1l2m@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 16-Apr-96 09:36 AM From: ANA To: AIN Subject: ANA _German historians, critics up in arms over Harvard professor's book_ (Associated Press) BONN, Germany (Apr 15, 1996 6:30 p.m. EDT) -- German historians and critics are furiously assailing an American author for arguing that the Holocaust sprang from a rabid anti-Semitism that was peculiar to Germany. The uproar over Daniel Jonah Goldhagen's book, "Hitler's Willing Executioners," is one of the loudest to ever to have occurred in this country over how to explain the alleged murder of several million Jews. "We don't dispute the atrocities," Der Spiegel publisher Rudolf Augstein wrote in Monday's editions of the magazine. But to say that most Germans wanted Jews exterminated "is ignorant, if not in fact malicious," he said. Similar reactions to Goldhagen's book have shown up in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung and the Sueddeutsche Zeitung, two of Germany's most respected newspapers. In years past, there have been arguments among German historians over how it happened that normal Germans let Adolf Hitler come to power and then looked the other way as Jews were sent off to extermination camps. So far, however, the consensus among German historians is that Goldhagen's own theses are way off-base. Norbert Frei, a Berlin historian, agrees with Goldhagen that the Third Reich was suffused with anti-Semitism. But Frei says it is wrong to assert that "nearly the whole German society wished for this genocide." In his book, Goldhagen says as many as a half-million Germans were active participants in the Holocaust and that many of them killed with relish. "The most appropriate -- indeed the only appropriate -- general proper name for the Germans who perpetrated the Holocaust is 'Germans,' " says Goldhagen, an assistant professor of political science at Harvard University. Goldhagen tells of Police Battalion 101, whose 500 members included only a few from the Nazis' elite SS force. It was one of many such units that executed Polish Jews and oversaw their deportation to extermination camps. Goldhagen said a commander of the battalion offered to excuse anyone who didn't want to take part in killings, but that few accepted the offer. Some officers even invited their wives to witness an Aug. 25, 1942, bloodbath at Miedzyrzec, Poland, Goldhagen says. According to Goldhagen, the wives watched as their husbands forced hundreds of Jews, including children, from their homes, made them sit in the burning sun and shot those who moved. But Frei says hatred of Jews was not the only motive for such atrocities. Also playing a role, Frei claims, were peer pressure, emotions that had been numbed by the war, alcohol abuse and other factors. Frei says Goldhagen's book contains virtually nothing new. He points out that American historian Christopher Browning wrote about the same police reserve battalion in a book published four years ago. Other critics say that Goldhagen has revived a theory about the origins of the Holocaust that first was introduced by American and British historians after the Nazis' defeat and later abandoned because it assumed "collective guilt" for all Germans. More recent theories have argued that ordinary Germans supported Hitler because of his charisma and his promises to end the country's 1930s economic crisis brought on by the Jews. Frank Schirrmacher, cultural editor for the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, said Goldhagen seems to be arguing that Germans always will be anti- Semites. "If one believes the thesis of this book, the Germans' road into the 21st century can be viewed only with skepticism and fear," Schirrmacher wrote. Freiburg historian Manfred Messerschmidt, a Third Reich expert, said he welcomes Goldhagen's book because the discussion about guilt for the Holocaust needs to be kept alive. He also said Goldhagen goes too far. "It is wrong to say that Germany was the only anti-Semitic culture," because there were strong anti-Jewish sentiments in France and other countries, Messerschmidt said in an interview, just as there is today. Other critics of Goldhagen's work are pointing out that Latvians, Lithaunians and others eagerly helped the Nazis killed Jews. When he was a youth, says Dede, a journalist who has researched the Third Reich, boys his age sang an anti-Semitic song with gusto. One of the stanzas goes: "Farmers, townsfolk and workers are wielding sword and hammer, fighting for Hitler, for work and for bread. As for Jews -- they should be dead." Dede says he thinks many of the boys really wanted Jews to die. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 20 09:50:33 PDT 1996 Article: 42959 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.sdsmt.edu!tau.uac.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!news.thenet.net!trellis.wwnet.com!news.bconnex.net!news1.erols.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: USS LIBERTY Date: 18 Apr 1996 07:56:04 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l4sik$10e2@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4l1smk$k9m@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >But you object because it [aid to Israel] drains American tax coffers, >correct? > >Because it takes American money, and for what it takes it for. The >helicopter gunship that fired rockets at the ambulance in Jordan last >week, killing six children, was an American made Apache which was given to >Israel. I somehow find funding this kind of murder revolting, and that >includes the numerous cases where our own country has engaged in similar >shameful acts. Israel is the most evil little socialist country in the world, sowing even now the seeds for WWIII. Sharon From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 21 10:17:59 PDT 1996 Article: 32134 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: H*ber posting duplicate articles Date: 21 Apr 1996 03:10:47 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lc8vn$1a8e@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4l2u0q$1bna@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <4l5kqo$qta@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> <4l6bu4$c14@wi.combase.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >>My site must pay to receive, store, and distribute your needlessly >>duplicated message, and I find it particularly unreasonable >>that I should do so, given that they could have been posted _once_, >>to the appropriate newsgroups, with cross-posting eliminating >>needless traffic. > > Do you not realize this absurd "must pay" was ridiculed out of >existance years ago and is now only believed by those ignorant of how >the internet works? He was trying to con Prodigy, pretending to be a site manager. In fact, he's just another innocuous poster, and one of ill repute to boot. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 21 10:18:00 PDT 1996 Article: 32168 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!tns.sdsu.edu!news.iag.net!news.math.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!sgigate.sgi.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Rekindle the ovens, man Date: 21 Apr 1996 09:52:17 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 7 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ld0gh$djq@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <199604201924.maa05124@rio.com> <3178e333.666e@kaiwan.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 American soldiers machine-gunning 150-250 SS. Corpses >> piled near the crematories, ashes in piles, dead bodies all over the >> place. OK, now I understand, The ashes found in the crematoria were those of the SS killed by the liberating American forces. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 21 10:18:01 PDT 1996 Article: 32176 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!pravda.aa.msen.com!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: H*ber posting duplicate articles Date: 21 Apr 1996 09:43:41 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 6 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ld00d$1tmi@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4l2u0q$1bna@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <4l5kqo$qta@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> <4l6bu4$c14@wi.combase.com> <4lc8vn$1a8e@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >>>My site must pay to receive, store, and distribute your needlessly >>>duplicated message, and I find it particularly unreasonable >>>that I should do so You must think the kids here are weenies, Mc Oyvey. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 21 10:18:01 PDT 1996 Article: 32177 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!pravda.aa.msen.com!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: JEWS and WANNSEE Date: 21 Apr 1996 09:47:09 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 20 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ld06t$tde@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4lca7i$12k$2@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Cliff Swiger <76053.707@CompuServe.COM> wrote: > >It is a fact that Zionist Jews control the major media at least >here in the U.S. and push a leftist >agenda. Zionist Jews are, based upon population per centages, >over represented in government >and the professional fields such as law. In a nutshell, the Jews >are in a strong position of power to >push any political, religious or racial program they choose. >One of their past accomplishments >has been their ability to convince the populace that the Jewish >interpretations of Nazi Germany, >WW2 and pertinent "incriminating" documents are accurate ones. >How? They manuvered >themselves into a postion of power to do this. When you hold the >trump card, you contol the game. And the arrogance with which they push their power to the brink of one's sanity is reason enough for holocaust II, the sequel. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 21 10:18:02 PDT 1996 Article: 32178 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!pravda.aa.msen.com!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: JEWS and Wannsee Date: 21 Apr 1996 09:49:05 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ld0ah$1tj8@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4lca4m$imj$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 > >The Wannsee Protocol bears no official imprint, no date, no >signature, and was written with an >ordinary typewriter on small sheets of paper. And, for some >reason, the "original" is not available >for examination. I think these facts alone should cause any >rational thinking person not to place to >much weight on this document or any like it. Cliff, you rascal, you want they should blow a gasket when they read this? Oy vey. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 21 10:43:51 PDT 1996 Article: 43177 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!pravda.aa.msen.com!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: It's Anti-Semitic to dislike JEW MURDERERS!!! Date: 20 Apr 1996 13:52:07 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4laq67$kk0@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4l7khq$7f1@orb.direct.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 mad@cow.com (Mad Cow) wrote: > >I am not allowed to dislike the actions of JEW MURDERERS, because >that would be Anti-semitic. > >Those "things" slaughtered in Lebanon, mean nothing, only remember the >"6 million" Jews. The "6 million" are all that matter. Oh, oh!! You were warned not to kiss any j*ws. The 'Mad Jew' disease [Tae- Saks] is contagious. And it makes people confused about numerology, for instance the number 6,000,000 comes to mind. That is the number of British mad cows which will be gassed & then incinerated at the newly rebuilt Auschwitz Ganzeofens. Dr. matthew DURING is the only MD who is studying the phenomena in Auckland New Zealand. He recommends staying in the closet & murmering "6, 000,000" 400 times, kinda like "Hail Mary"s. Take 2 Bitternstuck & call us in the morning. Sandra From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 21 10:43:53 PDT 1996 Article: 43178 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!pravda.aa.msen.com!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Shit - Clinton's Going DOWN (Re: "Clinton Cocaine Video Surfaces in Little Rock") Date: 20 Apr 1996 13:57:16 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4laqfs$1j6i@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4kvrs9$qfh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4la0el$23c@orb.direct.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >>: video-tapes/photographs from their web page. This has the appearance >of >>: a tacit admission that they were hoodwinked. >> >>"Free Press News" has now placed the following announcement on their >web >>site: >> >>Free speech Newspaper has now obtained from Larry Case video tapes, >cassette >>tapes, and audio micro-cassette tapes which we are examining and are >providing >>information as to the tapes to select news sources for our own >protection. Hey, look. The details are irrelevant, after all, no matter what clinton ingested, he didn't inhale, remember? Sandra From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 21 11:10:10 PDT 1996 Article: 16232 of misc.activism.militia Approved: militia-request@atype.com (9f54a9b1a628135209d9cfe84821148d) References: <829913584$19316@atype.com> <829952284$22336@atype.com> From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Return-Path: Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!thor.atcon.com!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!news.unb.ca!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!atype.com!militia-request Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia Date: Sun, 21 Apr 96 9:18:03 GMT Message-ID: <830078283$26446@atype.com> Subject: Re: KABOOM Lines: 9 .but both connote >making money off of their activities. I doubt whether Mr. >Chapman is benefiting financially by posting to m.a.m. >ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote: Don't bet on it. He probably gets the same 'standard' $1775 per month. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 21 11:10:11 PDT 1996 Article: 16233 of misc.activism.militia Approved: militia-request@atype.com (9e8959b540ba329958a1fc2dd3815a05) References: <829899184$18722@atype.com> <829913584$19316@atype.com> <829974784$23394@atype.com> From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Return-Path: Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!thor.atcon.com!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!news.unb.ca!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!atype.com!militia-request Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia Date: Sun, 21 Apr 96 9:18:10 GMT Message-ID: <830078290$26458@atype.com> Subject: Re: KABOOM Lines: 13 mike@cfw.com (Mike Chapman) wrote: >diana@onramp.net wrote: >I'll tell you what, CUNT, don't call me that to my face. > >Citizen Chapman, Esq. ========%%%%%%-/\ >Member, American Liberation Front ========%%%%%% || Now is this the kind of trash you want for YOUR Liberation Front ??? Sandra From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 22 06:36:21 PDT 1996 Article: 32233 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!loki.tor.hookup.net!hookup!sunlight.bat.bellsouth.net!newshost.cyberramp.net!news4.agis.net!agis!ns2.mainstreet.net!news.jersey.net!news.win.bright.net!news.bright.net!chi-news.cic.net!news.math.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: jewsbriefs # 763 Date: 18 Apr 1996 14:07:44 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l5ibg$1ab6@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Jerusalem 4/17/96 Two jewish groups have been attempting to steal from the Swiss banking industry by claiming that 'billions' on deposit belong to holocaust victims. The jewish Agency, whose head simcha DINITZ was convicted on April 15th on fraud charges, and the World jewish Congress, presided over by mickey EISNER, producer of the vile movie _Priests_, have been trying to force Swiss banks to disclose what happened to some $7 BILLION alleged to have been deposited by jews later killed in the holocaust. They are said to have sumggled their money out of Nazi controlled territory. The agencies, after an audit revealed no such deposits, accused the banks of having given the unclaimed deposits to European governments rather than trying to locate the heirs. They insist the money was there and want the banks to disclose what happened to it. This author suggests that since the groups want the rightful owners to have the money, if it exists, it should be given back to to the German people from whom it was originally stolen, leading to the collapse of the German economic system, and hence to Hitler's rise to power. ************************************ 4/17/96 American Catholic leaders yesterday condemned slick Willie's veto of a bill banning 'partial-birth abortions.' They charged the US is moving closer to accepting infanticide. In unprecedented action, eight Roman Catholic Cardinals and the Pres. of the Nat'l Conference of Catholic Bishops wrote Clinton saying they will urge people to appeal to Congress to override the veto. *********************************** 4/17/96 Trenton NJ The State Division of Consumer Affairs and the State Lottery Commissiion have filed suit against j*wish owned Woodbridge Financial Corp to stop it >from doing business in NJ. The Delaware-based company deceives lottery winners into 'assigning' it their lottery earnings. The 'assignment' practice is a growing problem in NJ. The firm gives winners instant cash, but charges usurious interest rates. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Mon Apr 22 06:54:32 PDT 1996 Article: 43283 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Swiss banks robbery expands like 6,000,00 Date: 21 Apr 1996 19:29:22 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4le2ai$1vsg@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Saturday, 20-Apr-96 09:36 AM Forwarded from ANA: WJC Demands Restitution, Issues Threats_ (ANA) The World Jewish Congress (WJC) announced yesterday (4/19/96) that it has ran out of patience with Polish authorities and demanded immediate restitution of jewish property they claim Nazis and Communists stole from them during World War II. General Secretary of the WJC, Israel Singer, said "We've been talking to them for four years and they've been jerking us around, treating us badly, miserably. They're gonna hear from us until Poland freezes over again, the time is now. We're not asking for money now, but we're asking them to take the obligation on themselves." He also threatened that countries that do not make restitution will be "publicly attacked and humiliated." He threatened the same actions against Swiss banks, which he said still hold accounts from "holocaust victims." Singer added "More than three million jews died in Poland and the Polish people are not going to be the heirs of the Polish jews. We are never going to allow this." From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 07:16:56 PDT 1996 Article: 32339 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!globe.indirect.com!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Evil Little H*ber Babies Date: 21 Apr 1996 02:42:41 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lc7b1$f38@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316a61e7.2309376@news.pacificnet.net> <4l3q2q$al7@shiva.usa.net> <4l453o$6ff@wi.combase.com> <4l5it7$4u@moe.cc.emory.edu> <4l6d5s$4nu@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >NOTE TO GOS MEMBERS: Please remove the "ZOG" designation from >your Ferarri plates... folks are beginning to get suspicious. >Stein, sell the yacht. Hostrov, the condo in Maui has to go.. >transfer it to McFee, like you did the Rolls; the Bobsy Twins >are too stupid to figure that one out. > >22837 >ZOGWCDN Make sure you tattoo the number on your forehead so we can identify you >from the other 6,000,000. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 07:16:57 PDT 1996 Article: 32340 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!globe.indirect.com!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Evil Little Huber Babies Date: 21 Apr 1996 02:47:37 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lc7k9$18nu@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316a61e7.2309376@news.pacificnet.net> <4klqbv$lua@informer1.cis.mcmaster.ca> <4kmv1t$bli@atlas.uniserve.com> <4kp5eh$1340@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <4kpl61$k9i@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> <4l4u1c$1vdo@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 > >I'm confused--how many people are posting from A Huber's account? > >---------------------- >Marty Kelley (mkelley@U.Arizona.EDU) This is NOT 'A Huber' 's account. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 07:58:53 PDT 1996 Article: 43428 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.sdsmt.edu!tau.uac.net!cancer.vividnet.com!hunter.premier.net!insync!news.azstarnet.com!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Den kirchlichen Herren Date: 20 Apr 1996 13:38:57 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lapdh$1f3m@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <67b_cjrk1wb@normarz.snafu.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >Gedenket an das Gesetz meines Knechts Mose, das ich ihm befohlen habe auf >dem Berge Horeb fuer ganz Israel, an alle Gebote und Rechte! *Siehe, ich* >*will euch senden den Propheten Elia, ehe der grosse und schreckliche Tag* >*des HERRN kommt* Der soll das Herz der Vaeter bekehren zu den Soehnen und >das Herz der Soehne zu ihren Vaetern, auf dass ich nicht komme und das >Erdreich mit dem Bann schlage. > >Fuer Unwissende: Altes Testament, Prophet Maleachi The recently fallen Jimmy Swaggert had some beautiful spielen about this topic, to wit: Israel will start WW III, and as her enemies converge upon her for her atrocities, she will turn to the United States for help. The United States will say, "NO." The chosen people will then drop to their knees and beg of their Messiah for help. And He will come. He will ride out of the Heavens upon a white steed with His sword drawn; at His right hand will be Abraham and on His left will be Moses, and His name will be Jesus.............. Sandra at the Hohenhausen Guild From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 07:58:53 PDT 1996 Article: 43452 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!apollo.isisnet.com!news2.interlog.com!news1.io.org!clio.trends.ca!worldlinx.com!news.sprintlink.net!news1.inlink.com!news.starnet.net!news.utdallas.edu!news01.aud.alcatel.com!gatech!nntp.netrex.net!news.voyager.net!aanews.merit.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: AJC poll of Ruskies Date: 17 Apr 1996 13:59:23 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 145 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l2tfr$85c@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 _Poll: Anti-Semitism at low ebb_ (AP) MOSCOW (Apr 16, 1996 2:17 p.m. EDT) -- Hostility toward Jews has ebbed as Russians find new targets for their anger -- primarily the Chechens, according to poll results released Tuesday. The nationwide survey was conducted for the American Jewish Committee by the ROMIR polling firm. A spokesman for the Jewish group said the results warn of a potential for problems for Jews and others. "At this moment in Russian society, there are other groups that serve as a lightning rod, as a magnet, that attract anger, that attract hostility, that attract frustration," said David Singer, research director for the New York-based organization. "A society that is intolerant for one group by definition has the capacity for being intolerant toward other groups as well," he told reporters. Russia has a history of discriminating against Jews dating to czarist times. The reforms of the 1980s unleashed a new wave of anti-Semitism led by hate groups and hard-liners who blamed Jews for economic and political chaos and other misfortunes. Still, the survey found that overall, hostility toward Jews in Russia now appears to be relatively low -- especially compared with animosity toward the Chechens and other Caucasus Mountains groups. Asked which groups behave in a manner that provokes hostility in Russia, 4 percent said Jews. Seventy-one percent named the Chechens, who have been fighting for more than four years to secede from Russia. Other groups who received negative responses included Azerbaijanis, 31 percent, Armenians, 25 percent, and Gypsies, 24 percent. Respondents were read a list of 11 groups and were able to name others or say no group provoked hostility. They were allowed to give multiple answers. The poll, based on 1,581 face-to-face interviews from Jan. 12 to Feb. 7, carried a margin of error of 3 percentage points. Seventeen percent said they would prefer not to have Jews as neighbors. Fourteen percent said Jews have too much influence in society. Several other European countries where the American Jewish Committee has sponsored surveys in the past two years: Germany, Austria, Hungary and Poland. Ultranationalist politician Vladimir Zhirinovsky called recently for the resettlement of Jews away from the general population in Russia and the United States. Despite what he called the overall positive results, Singer emphasized that anti-Semitism remains "embedded in Russian society." The poll also found that many Russians are ignorant of even the most basic facts about the extermination of millions of Jews in the Holocaust. Only 21 percent could correctly identify 6 million as the number of Jews killed by the Nazis in World War II, 50 percent could identify Auschwitz, Dachau and Treblinka as concentration camps, and 34 percent knew European Jews were forced to wear a yellow Star of David on their clothes. ===== Subject: Israel launches holocaust against Lebanon even as Israel marks Holocaust day _Sirens wail throughout Israel to mark Holocaust Day_ (AP) JERUSALEM (Apr 16, 1996 2:30 p.m. EDT) -- Israelis in northern bomb shelters and throughout Israel stood in silence for two minutes today as sirens wailed to mark Holocaust Remembrance Day. In the northern town of Kiryat Shemona, residents observed the silence inside bomb shelters as rockets fired by Iranian-backed guerrillas in Lebanon continued to fall. Television footage showed Israeli soldiers on Israel's border with Lebanon standing alongside their tanks to observe the silence. Israel's two television stations broadcast talk shows on the Holocaust from studios in Kiryat Shemona, and some Israelis drew parallels between the persistent attacks of Islamic militants and the Nazi genocide. The names of Holocaust victims were read at state ceremonies held throughout Israel, except in Kiryat Shemona, where ceremonies were called off because of the fighting between Israel and the Hezbollah guerrillas. At a ceremony in Israel's parliament, Prime Minister Shimon Peres, who was born in Poland, read the names of his grandparents and uncle who died at the hands of the Nazis. Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. "My grandfather Rabbi Zvi Miltzer, may he rest in peace, my grandmother Rivka Miltzer ... my Uncle Michael Miltzer. All three went up in flames together with the synagogue in the town of Vishniva," Peres said. People stopped their cars and stood in the middle of the road when the sirens blared at 10 a.m. Buses pulled over to the side of highways and passengers filed out to stand in silence. The day of national mourning for the victims of the Nazi Holocaust has been marked annually in Israel since the founding of the Jewish state in 1948. Many of Israel's founders were {false} Jews from eastern Europe. Holocaust Remembrance Day is calculated according to the Jewish calendar to fall between the date the Warsaw Ghetto uprising began in Poland in 1943 and Israel's Memorial Day, which is April 23 this year. State television broadcast documentaries on the Holocaust, including testimony by survivors. Radio stations refrained from playing songs in English, playing somber songs in Hebrew, including prayers and poems about the Holocaust. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 07:58:54 PDT 1996 Article: 43453 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!apollo.isisnet.com!news2.interlog.com!news1.io.org!clio.trends.ca!worldlinx.com!news.sprintlink.net!crusher.ici.net!news.wizard.com!dimensional.com!csn!news-1.csn.net!ub!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!news.cac.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: j*w agency head convicted of fraud Date: 17 Apr 1996 14:00:46 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l2tie$e10@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 16-Apr-96 09:53 AM _Ex-Head of Jewish Agency Convicted of Fraud_ (ANA) The former head of Israel's Jewish Agency, Simcha Dinitz, was convicted yesterday (4/15/96) of fraud for making personal charges with an agency's credit card while on trips in America. The Jewish Agency is a quasi-governmental agency which serves as a link with world jewry and assists in bringing immigrants to Israel. It has an annual budget of about $500 million and is funded primarily from contributions from jews around the world. Dinitz became head of the agency in 1987 and resigned last year when allegations of fraud came about. Dinitz, who is a former ambassador to the US, claims he is innocent. The Jerusalem District Court convicted him on fraud for using a credit card issued by Syms, a New York clothing store, but acquitted him on a second charge for using an American Express card that belonged to the agency. It was not revealed how much Dinitz charged on each card. A date has not been set for sentencing. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 07:58:55 PDT 1996 Article: 43514 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!news.tcst.com!news.spectrum.titan.com!dildog.lgc.com!news.sesqui.net!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: USS LIBERTY Date: 21 Apr 1996 02:22:21 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lc64t$1vn2@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4l1smk$k9m@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >I see. > >So why do you think it is that the United States gives so much aid >(financial and otherwise) to this parasite? Because the parasites now control your pocketbook via Congress. Sandra From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 09:35:13 PDT 1996 Article: 32363 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!news.tcst.com!news.spectrum.titan.com!dildog.lgc.com!news.sesqui.net!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: "10,000" extermination camps - "documented" Date: 21 Apr 1996 09:21:14 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lcuma$jgu@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <31669b42.7032542@news.pacificnet.net> <316d5081.17676042@news.srv.ualberta.ca> <316db96e.46301994@news.pacificnet.net> <3171862b.4370833@news.srv.ualberta.ca> <16apr199618074932@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu> <4l2510$56p@wi.combase.com> <4l2rqn$1gi@hackberry.zilker.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >>>> >>>>Human beings from the ghettos were ultimately transported to camps to >>>>die. Notice the words 'to die'; this does not mean 'to be executed'. I would remind you that crematoria were not used for executions, but to prevent the spreading of contagion, thus they are irrelevant to any alleged holocaust. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 09:35:14 PDT 1996 Article: 32364 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!news.tcst.com!news.spectrum.titan.com!dildog.lgc.com!news.sesqui.net!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Evil Little German Babies Date: 21 Apr 1996 09:24:40 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lcuso$2096@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316a61e7.2309376@news.pacificnet.net> <4kr7mp$39sk@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4krl3m$fjl@wi.combase.com> <4l3q2q$al7@shiva.usa.net> <4l453o$6ff@wi.combase.com> <4l8mnl$lcf@shiva.usa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 > >Only a man who is totally intellectually bankrupt would repeat >himself when faced with an argument he cannot refute. This must be why j*ws repeat: 6,000,000 6,000,000 6,000,000 6,000,000 6,000,000 ad nauseum From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 09:35:15 PDT 1996 Article: 32365 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!news.tcst.com!news.spectrum.titan.com!dildog.lgc.com!news.sesqui.net!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Evil Little German Babies Date: 21 Apr 1996 09:32:29 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lcvbd$18ps@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <316a61e7.2309376@news.pacificnet.net> <4kr7mp$39sk@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4krl3m$fjl@wi.combase.com> <4l3q2q$al7@shiva.usa.net> <4l453o$6ff@wi.combase.com> <4l8lbj$lcf@shiva.usa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 > Mr. Giwer's anti-Jewish prejudice is showing! All Jews were > blamed for events that were totally beyond the control of any > German Jew to influence or ameliorate. Not true. j*ws have always behaved as a collective entity when within countries in which they were, well, "guests". j*ws today advocate collective guilt against Germans (GOLDHAGEN comes to mind), against the Lebanese (bombing of children comes to mind) and against the Palestinians ( starving them ). Have you heard on CNN where the j*ws are castrating male Palestinian children in the refugee camps!! No. You deserved what you got. And there will be an Act II. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 09:35:15 PDT 1996 Article: 32367 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!news.tcst.com!news.spectrum.titan.com!dildog.lgc.com!news.sesqui.net!oitnews.harvard.edu!cmcl2!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Giwer & outright lies: so what's new? Date: 21 Apr 1996 09:36:46 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lcvje$11ee@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4l16cl$hhu@wi.combase.com> <4l7hpt$1dp@wi.combase.com> <4l915h$nn0@wi.combase.com> <4lb3mv$s09@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >In article <4l915h$nn0@wi.combase.com>, >mgiwer@combase.com (Matt Giwer) wrote: > >> The caption said the following. > >>c_krema4.gif Closeup of Krema II, showing slits used to introduce >>gas Ahhh, the power of suggestion. Slits can be for the entrance of sunshine or so that the inhabitants can have a panoramic view. Sandra From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 09:51:55 PDT 1996 Article: 26263 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!xmission!newsfeed.kdcol.net!news.iag.net!news.worldpath.net!news.cic.net!chi-news.cic.net!news.cais.net!news1.erols.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: World War III and Israel Date: 19 Apr 1996 06:56:37 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 64 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l7df5$m1q@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 4/18/96 #764 Subject: World War III Israel has unleashed a Holocaust, heretofore unknown to mankind, against the innocent people of Lebanon. Cities are being razed, thousands of bodies lie murdered beneath the rubble. The horsemen of the Apocalypse are afield. Except for the tears in my eyes, I would have chuckled: here is President Clinton at a newsbrief, somber-faced, explaining how he is trying to negotiate an end to the events unfolding today. What utter contempt he has for the American people! He's the very SON-OF-A-BITCH who armed the perpetrators. For the record, the Lebanese are not war-like people. Abandoned by America, disarmed by Israel, they don't have the physical wherewithall to cope with Israeli's enemy Hezbola. In years past, Israel demonstrated her ability to invade a sovereign country, street by street, building by building, room by room to evicerate the terrorists. She did it then; she can do it now. Instead, the j*ws have elected to destroy an innocent people, children, men, and women, with a venom and carnage strange to civilized beings. There must needs be an end to it. The Regan years fade into memory, and with them also the cognizance of what was familiarly called the USSR. Youngsters today have no clue as to the power and awesomeness which once kept the world's status-quo in balance. Perchance one hears a murmer of Bosnia, so far away, and more recently, mention of some place called Chechnia. What does it all mean? But tucked away in the hills of the now-dismantled Soviet Union are people of rich and mixed backgrounds. There are those of Slavic blood who are Muslims; there are those of Semitic blood who are Christians ( no thanks to the Ottomans). But something else, also faded into memory, is tucked away in those hills and cities: TEN THOUSAND KNOWN NUCLEAR WARHEADS, each perched precipitously atop a viable rocketry device. We here at the Hohenhausen Guild pray for the end of the slaughter, and ask, nay, beseech, the Russian Brothers of the Lebanese peoples to deliver their hardware to its natural destinations: Tel-Aviv Haifa Yafo Ramla Beersheba Gaza Ashdod Nazareth Hadera Hebron Akko Ashqelon Nablus Netanya and Tiberias that the world can once again be pure. May G*d have mercy on our souls. -Sandra From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 10:02:35 PDT 1996 Article: 19746 of alt.skinheads Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!xmission!newsfeed.kdcol.net!news.iag.net!news.math.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!sgigate.sgi.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads Subject: j*wsbriefs # 775 Date: 21 Apr 1996 12:55:04 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ldb78$a4q@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 BLOCH pleads guilty: New York, 19 April, 1996 Ex-radio host irwin h. 'sonny' BLOCK pleaded guilty to perjury and 7 counts of income tax evasion in federal court today. BLOCK, 59, admitted that he failed to pay from 1991 to 1993 in personal & corporate taxes and that he lied to the SEC. He also admitted lying during the SEC's investigation of his affairs on Sept. 12, 1994. Like "crazy eddy" ANTAR, BLOCK fled the country taking his shekels with him when his scams began to come to light. The monies he didn't pay tax on were stolen through scams from listeners of his syndicated radio show on 170 stations around the nation. He broadcast from Tampa, Fla. six days a week for 15 years. -by Sharon Stone From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 10:12:17 PDT 1996 Article: 16325 of misc.activism.militia Approved: militia-request@atype.com (96564fc03104166f09efb69cb66bc129) References: <829899184$18722@atype.com> <829921692$19658@atype.com> From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Return-Path: Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!news.tcst.com!news.spectrum.titan.com!dildog.lgc.com!news.sesqui.net!news01.aud.alcatel.com!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!atype.com!militia-request Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia Date: Sun, 21 Apr 96 9:03:34 GMT Message-ID: <830077414$26422@atype.com> Subject: Re: KABOOM Lines: 14 ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote: > > >Not funny Mike. It's stuff like this that makes the Mike Chapman user >name look suspiciously like a front for an agent provocateur for those who >dislike us. A lot of people are upset with me, but remember Tri-States!! CHAPMAN comes from the same mold. Cheers From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 11:24:52 PDT 1996 Article: 43555 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.ece.uc.edu!babbage.ece.uc.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: 1 Israeli Worth 1000 Checnyans Date: 20 Apr 1996 13:31:23 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4laovb$25e4@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) wrote: > >While US Mass media are having an orgasm over the fact that ~100 >Israelis have been killed by by Hamas in the last couple of weeks, >that same press totally ignores the *30,000* Checnyan civilians >that have been massacred by the Russian army during the last year. You will see more of this as the j*ws buy up more & more media outlets. Already ABC can be seen as part of the greater conspiracy since purchased by mickey EISNER's group. Once they have bought all the internet providers, your voice will be totally silenced. The attitude of the zionists that they are each worth a thousand of the rest of us is one of the major reasons [arrogance] why they are no longer the chosen people but rather the hated people. Sandra From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 15:05:22 PDT 1996 Article: 26294 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.ece.uc.edu!babbage.ece.uc.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!newshub.csu.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: j*wsbriefs # 777 Date: 21 Apr 1996 19:33:04 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4le2hg$1nho@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com Date: Saturday, 20-Apr-96 09:36 AM Forwarded from Aryan News Agency: WJC Demands Restitution, Issues Threats_ (ANA) The World Jewish Congress (WJC) announced yesterday (4/19/96) that it has ran out of patience with Polish authorities and demanded immediate restitution of jewish property they claim Nazis and Communists stole from them during World War II. General Secretary of the WJC, Israel Singer, said "We've been talking to them for four years and they've been jerking us around, treating us badly, miserably. They're gonna hear from us until Poland freezes over again, the time is now. We're not asking for money now, but we're asking them to take the obligation on themselves." He also threatened that countries that do not make restitution will be "publicly attacked and humiliated." He threatened the same actions against Swiss banks, which he said still hold accounts from "holocaust victims." Singer added "More than three million jews died in Poland and the Polish people are not going to be the heirs of the Polish jews. We are never going to allow this." From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 23 15:39:02 PDT 1996 Article: 17938 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.ece.uc.edu!babbage.ece.uc.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.physics.uiowa.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: j*wsbriefs # 772 Date: 20 Apr 1996 13:16:41 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 140 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lao3p$1pge@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Submitted by andrew MATHIS via Elizabeth Saez: [1] ALL vs j*ws in NY Showdown Showdown in Williamsburg (Brooklyn, NY) : Blacks, Latinos & Whites v.s. Jews NEW YORK - Racial tensions are on the rise in the South Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, NY, as Blacks, Whites and Latinos join forces to battle the Jews, in their demand for fair housing in a case that has glaringly placed the notion of preferential treatment for Jews, on the map. According to the Brooklyn Legal Services (BLS) corporation, a state-funded primary provider of free legal services to low income individuals and groups throughout North and East Brooklyn, the New York City Housing Authority (NYCHA) is guilty of corruption and discriminatory practices in three low income public housing facilities which only want to favor the Jews above all other races - the Independence Towers, Taylor-Wythe and the John Williams Plaza projects in the Williamsburg section of Brooklyn, NY. They have been charged with favoring the placement of Hasidic Jewish families and Jewish immigrants, over Blacks, Whites and Latinos in defiance of a federal court decree to eliminate mathematical quotas favoring the politically powerful Hasidic community. These quotas--requiring that 68 percent, and 60 percent of all apartments in three large projects be occupied by Hasidim--had been in place since 1964. In 1976 the Southside Fair Housing committee filed a lawsuit attacking the mathematical quotas and in 1978 the Federal Court of Manhattan ordered an end to the discrimination by Jews against Blacks, Whites and Latinos. In 1991,BLS and the Puerto Rican Legal Defense Fund returned to Federal Court because the Housing Authority ignored the 1978 court ruling. Again, the court ruled for compliance to the previous decree, as well as added remedies to address the Housing Authority’s continued violation of rights towards Black, White and Latino applicants for housing, who had been skipped over in support of the Hasidic applicants. The NYCHA's waiting list is over 90 percent non-Jewish, many of which have been waiting on the list for years. But, as soon as a person of Jewish background applies, they are placed on the top of the list, and given an apartment. "It's just shocking. Really amazing," says BLS Project Director and Chief Counsel Martin S. Needleman in an exclusive interview. "It's more palatable, for some reason, if this was South Africa, or Newark, New Jersey, or Topeka, Kansas; but when it’s in your area, it's just shocking." Another shock to Mr. Needleman's comes on the heels of an explosive discovery. Mounds of evidence has been unearthed, showing massive illegal trafficking of low rent, government subsidized apartments. NYCHA also has not complied with the federal court ruling once again. According to a 1995 motion filed by BLS against NYCHA for contempt, the Authority has aided the Hasidic families in the "fabrication" of quotas "by permitting illegal transfer of apartments (subletting)" to other Hasidic families who had no right to them. Some illegal residents took up front cash payments of $15,000-$25,000 and were allowed to pay the rent in the legitimate tenant’s name, critics charge. In addition, a continuing probe by BLS along with housing advocacy groups have determined that several of the 250 or more Hasidic families under investigation, while paying a low income, government--subsidized rent (a rent that is not to exceed $450 per month), are land and home owners in the state of Florida, and have condominiums throughout the city of New York and are also owners of commercial properties. Rueben Franco, chairman of the Housing Authority, said that no tenant who owns a home or a commercial building should be living in public housing. Records have been obtained by Nation of Islam (The Final Call), showing Rabbi Lieb Glanz, a tenant of a three bedroom unit of Independence Towers, is listed as having purchased and sold a three-story brick condo at 31 Ross Street in Williamsburg, valued at $187,000. Rabbi Glanz, who declined to be interviewed, is also a member of the Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes' advisory board to the Jewish community. DA Hynes was also unavailable for comment. Though Housing advocates and BLS insist that the evidence is overwhelming, local Jewish politicians have now attacked the agency and have filed letters with state legislatures to punish BLS by discontinuing their funding to BLS. One such letter came from Assemblywoman Nettie Mayerson, to Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver asking for a halt of state support and demanded that BLS stop "becoming involved in the competition for apartments in the politics of the communities." "You understand that through this, racism is reinforced by political considerations," says Ms. Needleman. "Here it's clearly driven by a pro-Hasidic dynamic. It reflects a lack of respect for the non-Jewish communities, but it is not driven by a hatred of non-Jews. It's driven by the desire to do political favors for the Hasidic community, but it has the same results." Which is racism based on race. Rallies and town hall meetings are being held, attempting to bring closure to this two decade abuse of public housing and force it to serve many thousands who apply and really need it. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed Apr 24 11:05:09 PDT 1996 Article: 43787 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Nazi freed Date: 24 Apr 1996 14:45:02 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 28 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4llepe$anm@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 4/23/96 # 780 Duesseldorf, Germany: Fromer Majdanek concentration camp guard Hermine Ryan, 76, has been freed >from a life sentence in prison because she is ill. Convicted of murder in 1981, she has been in prison since 1975 ( in 'investigative' custody) after extradition from New York, where she was a housewife. She was found by a Duesseldorf court to be involved in the selecting of whether inmates arriving at Mafdanek were gassed or spared to perform labor. ************************************************** 4/23/96 # 780a Oranienburg, Germany: A $2.9 million project to preserve the charred remains of the former Sachsenhausen Barracks was begun today by anti-revisionists. Workers will conserve the frame of Barracks # 39 and rebuild Barracks # 38. The site will be dedicated in 1997 as a museum focused on jewish suffering , according to the Brandenburg Memorial Foundation. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed Apr 24 15:44:30 PDT 1996 Article: 26388 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: Nazi freed Date: 24 Apr 1996 14:59:49 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 28 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4llfl5$c5s@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 4/23/96 # 780 Duesseldorf, Germany: Fromer Majdanek concentration camp guard Hermine Ryan, 76, has been freed >from a life sentence in prison because she is ill. Convicted of murder in 1981, she has been in prison since 1975 ( in 'investigative' custody) after extradition from New York, where she was a housewife. She was found by a Duesseldorf court to be involved in the selecting of whether inmates arriving at Mafdanek were gassed or spared to perform labor. ************************************************** 4/23/96 # 780a Oranienburg, Germany: A $2.9 million project to preserve the charred remains of the former Sachsenhausen Barracks was begun today by anti-revisionists. Workers will conserve the frame of Barracks # 39 and rebuild Barracks # 38. The site will be dedicated in 1997 as a museum focused on jewish suffering , according to the Brandenburg Memorial Foundation. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed Apr 24 15:46:01 PDT 1996 Article: 43840 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Anti-revisionists repair Camp Date: 24 Apr 1996 14:45:34 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 28 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lleqe$e70@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 4/23/96 # 780 Duesseldorf, Germany: Fromer Majdanek concentration camp guard Hermine Ryan, 76, has been freed >from a life sentence in prison because she is ill. Convicted of murder in 1981, she has been in prison since 1975 ( in 'investigative' custody) after extradition from New York, where she was a housewife. She was found by a Duesseldorf court to be involved in the selecting of whether inmates arriving at Mafdanek were gassed or spared to perform labor. ************************************************** 4/23/96 # 780a Oranienburg, Germany: A $2.9 million project to preserve the charred remains of the former Sachsenhausen Barracks was begun today by anti-revisionists. Workers will conserve the frame of Barracks # 39 and rebuild Barracks # 38. The site will be dedicated in 1997 as a museum focused on jewish suffering , according to the Brandenburg Memorial Foundation. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed Apr 24 15:46:02 PDT 1996 Article: 43846 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Bank robbery escalated Date: 24 Apr 1996 14:46:18 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 31 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4llerq$1vco@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Saturday, 20-Apr-96 09:36 AM _WJC Demands Restitution, Issues Threats_ (ANA) The World Jewish Congress (WJC) announced yesterday (4/19/96) that it has ran out of patience with Polish authorities and demanded immediate restitution of jewish property they claim Nazis and Communists stole from them during World War II. General Secretary of the WJC, Israel Singer, said "We've been talking to them for four years and they've been jerking us around, treating us badly, miserably. They're gonna hear from us until Poland freezes over again, the time is now. We're not asking for money now, but we're asking them to take the obligation on themselves." He also threatened that countries that do not make restitution will be "publicly attacked and humiliated." He threatened the same actions against Swiss banks, which he said still hold accounts from "holocaust victims." Singer added "More than three million jews died in Poland and the Polish people are not going to be the heirs of the Polish jews. We are never going to allow this." ===== From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed Apr 24 15:46:03 PDT 1996 Article: 43847 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: j*ws threaten Swiss Date: 24 Apr 1996 14:46:36 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 31 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4llesc$dsu@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Saturday, 20-Apr-96 09:36 AM _WJC Demands Restitution, Issues Threats_ (ANA) The World Jewish Congress (WJC) announced yesterday (4/19/96) that it has ran out of patience with Polish authorities and demanded immediate restitution of jewish property they claim Nazis and Communists stole from them during World War II. General Secretary of the WJC, Israel Singer, said "We've been talking to them for four years and they've been jerking us around, treating us badly, miserably. They're gonna hear from us until Poland freezes over again, the time is now. We're not asking for money now, but we're asking them to take the obligation on themselves." He also threatened that countries that do not make restitution will be "publicly attacked and humiliated." He threatened the same actions against Swiss banks, which he said still hold accounts from "holocaust victims." Singer added "More than three million jews died in Poland and the Polish people are not going to be the heirs of the Polish jews. We are never going to allow this." ===== From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 10:08:11 PDT 1996 Article: 18079 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: where do they stand?? Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:26:54 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 183 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmnte$n4g@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler's birthday Re: the recent posts on Hitler's birthday. Here are some additional thoughts: Ideas and world views are not inherited genetically. They are passed down through the culture or the civilization to which a person belongs. Some people may be born into a society that practices communism and infanticide and authoritarian rule. A child growing up in this society acquires those values, and maintains them, unless the growing adult examines his ideas critically and rejects them. Any number of cultures subscribe to the idea of racial/cultural superiority. The Northern Europeans, and specifically Germans ("the master race"), have historically subscribed to this idea. So have the Jews ("God's chosen people.") In the case of the Germans, the Germanic tribes occupied a specific areas in Europe; in the case of the Jews, the "Jewish nation" was scattered throughout the world without a home base (between the diaspora and the establishment of the state of Israel.) German and Jewish cultures are marked by worship of the collective good, the collective wisdom, the beehive. The Old Testament is illustrative of this thread in Jewish history. It seems to me that the Holocaust in Nazi Germany occurred at least in part because "the master [German] race" and "God's chosen people [the Jews]" had a face-off. The Jews lost. I have a friend who was born an Israeli. He became a medical doctor and then an psychiatrist. He was an officer in the Israeli Army. After a few years he left in disgust, and came to the US. He told me that there was no difference between the Nazis and the Israelis--his explanation was that the dead Nazis had been reincarnated as modern day Israelis. The idea of the ruler and the ruled is endemic in history, from the Egyptians on down. A significant departure from this caste system of human organization was seen during the days of the American Revolution. The American Revolution asserted the Natural Rights of individual persons, and asserted that all legitimate political power arose from those persons. Government was to be the servant of the citizens, not the ruler. The American Revolution was anti-authoritarian, anti-monarchist and anti- state established religion. "Every man his own king and priest!" could have been the cry. Like it or not, these ideas came to us through white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian Protestants. Nope. The Founding Fathers were not Jews, they were not Italians, they were not Germans, they were not Japanese. Does that mean that the Anglo- Saxon genes produced the Founding Fathers' ideas? No. It means that those ideas were developed and nurtured within that culture. Nor do you have to be Anglo-Saxon to consider these ideas good. If a person who was brought up in the German culture thinks the Founding Fathers' ideas were good, that person can consciously adopt the ideas and live by them. Of course, in doing so, the person will have to reject the ideas of the German culture on the subject. The same applies to Italians, and to Jews, etc. A conflict arises when Americans who were brought up in, for example, German or Jewish cultures refuse to embrace the "every man his own king and priest" idea of the American Revolution. This is an issue of political loyalty. Of course German Americans can still enjoy sauerbraten and Wagner, Italians can still enjoy meatballs and Verdi . . . Victor Ostrovsky, the Mossad defector, has told us that the Mossad has relatively few paid employees, but a veritable contingent of people working for it. He says that Jews all over the world secretly work for the state of Israel as Mossad volunteers. (See "by Way of Deception," St. Martin's Paperbacks.) As Germany was an imperialist nation, as the US is an imperialist nation, so also is the Jewish nation, now, and probably before the modern state of Israel. In coming to this country and taking citizenship, our forefathers, no matter >from which land, swore allegiance to our republic, and to abandon allegiance to all foreign princes. A friend of mine was a professor at a university during the Vietnam war, and an anti-war activist. He worked closely with another professor (Jewish), also an anti-war activist. When election time came around, the Jewish professor told my friend that he would vote for Nixon instead of McGovern because, even though Nixon's supported the war in Vietnam, his policy towards Israeli was supportive, whereas McGovern was anti-war and neutral on Israel. We see here that the loyalties of the Jewish professor were first to the Jewish homeland, Israel. America took second place. The above is an illustration of a real problem. The controversy around the US Jews pertains to their loyalty to the US and the goals of the Founding Fathers, and is a legitimate concern. - Linda Valentine At 10:09 PM 4/19/96 -0400, joaquin wrote: >I would most respectfully like to remind everyone that tomorrow, April 20, >is Adolf Hitler's birthday. The man has had a lot of bad press and his >ideology has been a casualty of so very many vicious and mendacious attacks. >I do this because, in my view, National Socialism is essential to civilized >living. >-- >Internet Communications of America, Inc. > > Carol A. Valentine "The UN made me do it!" Uncle Sam's great excuse for Bosnia, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Somalia, Nicaragua, Panama, El Salvador, Haiti, Iraq, Libya . . . I didn't see any UN flag at Waco . . . From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 10:08:12 PDT 1996 Article: 18078 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: even abroad they cause internal trouble Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:27:41 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 84 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmnut$d2m@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 09:24 AM From: Anton Subject: _Extreme Romanian politician stripped of immunity_ (Reuter Information Service) BUCHAREST (Apr 22, 1996 4:18 p.m. EDT) - The Romanian Senate on Monday stripped an extreme nationalist anti-Semitic politician of his parliamentary immunity, opening him up to possible prosecution for defamation. Corneliu Vadim Tudor, maverick and former court poet of late communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, lashed out at those behind the 85-39 vote. "I expected this to happen, the Senate is a bunch of crooks. This is illegal," Vadim Tudor shouted to about 30 supporters surrounded by dozens of riot police outside the Senate, formerly the old Communist Party central committee headquarters. At the root of the case was Vadim Tudor's vitriolic campaign against the two most powerful men in Romania, President Ion Iliescu and Intelligence Service chief Virgil Magureanu. "This is a crooked scheme of the pair, Iliescu and Magureanu," Tudor said. Using the pages of his Romania Mare newspaper, mouthpiece for his Greater Romania Party, Vadim Tudor published anti-Semitic and other smears, on at least one occasion involving his former ally Iliescu. "Comrade Iliescu, you subordinated the country to the Jews. The Jews brought you in power, you stay with the Jews," the weekly newspaper said last year. Such language is Vadim Tudor's stock-in-trade but had never been directed at Iliescu. Monday night's Senate vote means he could be compelled to face up to a dozen charges of defamation against individuals and state institutions, including the serious charge of defaming the authority of the presidency. A conviction could mean prison. Prosecutors will now decide if he has a case to answer. But more significantly for the immediate political outlook, the decision denies Vadim Tudor his cover of immunity and prevents him standing against Iliescu in elections this year. Analysts see stripping Vadim Tudor's immunity as part of the ruling Party of Social Democracy's campaign to break with nationalist allies and remake itself as a centrist party. The PDSR, criticised by western diplomats for relying on Vadim Tudor and other hardliners, used the insults in Romania Mare as a reason to break a coalition with Greater Romania. "Through this gesture we are showing that we do not give in to blackmail and to absurd accusations," PDSR president Adrian Nastase said the time it broke with Romania Mare last October. Liberal newspaper Libertatea welcomed moves to silence Vadim Tudor, but warned: "Vadim could turn into a martyr." -Written by Anton, editor ANA From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 10:08:12 PDT 1996 Article: 18077 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: 1999 Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:28:21 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmo05$otc@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:44 AM _London To Create "Holocaust" Museum_ (ANA) British officials announced yesterday (4/23/96) that London's Imperial War Museum will contain Europe's first comprehensive "holocaust" museum by the year 1999. They said it will emphasize how the British might have been able to do more to save the jews during the war. Suzanne Bardgett, coordinator of the project, said "Few in Britain were properly able to take on board the gravity of the jews' predicament." Rabbi Hugo Gryn said "It will make the point that in a civilized society, you can never be a bystander when something evil is happening." The cost of building the museum is $20 million and construction is to begin in January. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 10:08:13 PDT 1996 Article: 18076 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: pretty soon there will be 1 in your house Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:28:48 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmo10$ifs@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:44 AM _London To Create "Holocaust" Museum_ (ANA) British officials announced yesterday (4/23/96) that London's Imperial War Museum will contain Europe's first comprehensive "holocaust" museum by the year 1999. They said it will emphasize how the British might have been able to do more to save the jews during the war. Suzanne Bardgett, coordinator of the project, said "Few in Britain were properly able to take on board the gravity of the jews' predicament." Rabbi Hugo Gryn said "It will make the point that in a civilized society, you can never be a bystander when something evil is happening." The cost of building the museum is $20 million and construction is to begin in January. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 10:08:14 PDT 1996 Article: 18075 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: no no nannette Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:29:20 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 60 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmo20$cc8@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Monday, 22-Apr-96 09:03 PM Below are quotes from Theodore N. Kaufman's Book Germany Must Perish... ----------------------------- This book was first published in 1941 and the New York Times called it: "A plan for permanent peace among civilzed Nations!" and Time Magazine called it "A Sensational Idea!" ----------------------------- "The population of Germany, excluding conquered and annexed territories, is about 70,000,000, almost equally divided between male and female. To achieve the purpose of german extinction it would be necessary to only sterilize some 48,000,000-- a figure which excludes, because of their limited power to procreate, males over 60 years of age, and females over 45." (Theodore N. Kaufman, Germany Must Perish - Pages 87 & 88) "Of course, after complete sterilization, there will cease to be a birth rate in Germany. At the normal death rate of 2% per annum, German life will diminish at the rate of 1,500,000 yearly. Accordlingly in the spam of two generations that which cost millions of lives and centuries of useless effort, namely, the elimination of Germanism and its carriers, will have been an accomplised fact. By virtue of its loss of self-propetuation German Will, will have atrophied and German power reduced to negligible importance." (Theodore N. Kaufman, Germany Must Perish - Pages 88 & 89) ----------------------------------- Anyone want to defend the So-called j*ws? "Mr. Morgenthau now stands convicted before the conscience of the world as an instigator of systematic annihilation of the German speaking people. The record further proves beyond any question of doubt, that these fanatical and reactionary high priests of hate and vengeance will never be able to defend their conspiracy before the bar of human reason and human decency." (Congresional Record, April 18, 1946 - U.S. Senator William Langer of N. Dakota) -------------------- -Submitted by Slayer Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: j*ws attack polit Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:21:23 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 84 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmnj3$1vpg@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 09:24 AM From: Anton Subject: _Extreme Romanian politician stripped of immunity_ (Reuter Information Service) BUCHAREST (Apr 22, 1996 4:18 p.m. EDT) - The Romanian Senate on Monday stripped an extreme nationalist anti-Semitic politician of his parliamentary immunity, opening him up to possible prosecution for defamation. Corneliu Vadim Tudor, maverick and former court poet of late communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, lashed out at those behind the 85-39 vote. "I expected this to happen, the Senate is a bunch of crooks. This is illegal," Vadim Tudor shouted to about 30 supporters surrounded by dozens of riot police outside the Senate, formerly the old Communist Party central committee headquarters. At the root of the case was Vadim Tudor's vitriolic campaign against the two most powerful men in Romania, President Ion Iliescu and Intelligence Service chief Virgil Magureanu. "This is a crooked scheme of the pair, Iliescu and Magureanu," Tudor said. Using the pages of his Romania Mare newspaper, mouthpiece for his Greater Romania Party, Vadim Tudor published anti-Semitic and other smears, on at least one occasion involving his former ally Iliescu. "Comrade Iliescu, you subordinated the country to the Jews. The Jews brought you in power, you stay with the Jews," the weekly newspaper said last year. Such language is Vadim Tudor's stock-in-trade but had never been directed at Iliescu. Monday night's Senate vote means he could be compelled to face up to a dozen charges of defamation against individuals and state institutions, including the serious charge of defaming the authority of the presidency. A conviction could mean prison. Prosecutors will now decide if he has a case to answer. But more significantly for the immediate political outlook, the decision denies Vadim Tudor his cover of immunity and prevents him standing against Iliescu in elections this year. Analysts see stripping Vadim Tudor's immunity as part of the ruling Party of Social Democracy's campaign to break with nationalist allies and remake itself as a centrist party. The PDSR, criticised by western diplomats for relying on Vadim Tudor and other hardliners, used the insults in Romania Mare as a reason to break a coalition with Greater Romania. "Through this gesture we are showing that we do not give in to blackmail and to absurd accusations," PDSR president Adrian Nastase said the time it broke with Romania Mare last October. Liberal newspaper Libertatea welcomed moves to silence Vadim Tudor, but warned: "Vadim could turn into a martyr." -Written by Anton, editor ANA Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: can't trust a j*w, any j*w Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:20:39 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 183 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmnhn$18ic@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler's birthday Re: the recent posts on Hitler's birthday. Here are some additional thoughts: Ideas and world views are not inherited genetically. They are passed down through the culture or the civilization to which a person belongs. Some people may be born into a society that practices communism and infanticide and authoritarian rule. A child growing up in this society acquires those values, and maintains them, unless the growing adult examines his ideas critically and rejects them. Any number of cultures subscribe to the idea of racial/cultural superiority. The Northern Europeans, and specifically Germans ("the master race"), have historically subscribed to this idea. So have the Jews ("God's chosen people.") In the case of the Germans, the Germanic tribes occupied a specific areas in Europe; in the case of the Jews, the "Jewish nation" was scattered throughout the world without a home base (between the diaspora and the establishment of the state of Israel.) German and Jewish cultures are marked by worship of the collective good, the collective wisdom, the beehive. The Old Testament is illustrative of this thread in Jewish history. It seems to me that the Holocaust in Nazi Germany occurred at least in part because "the master [German] race" and "God's chosen people [the Jews]" had a face-off. The Jews lost. I have a friend who was born an Israeli. He became a medical doctor and then an psychiatrist. He was an officer in the Israeli Army. After a few years he left in disgust, and came to the US. He told me that there was no difference between the Nazis and the Israelis--his explanation was that the dead Nazis had been reincarnated as modern day Israelis. The idea of the ruler and the ruled is endemic in history, from the Egyptians on down. A significant departure from this caste system of human organization was seen during the days of the American Revolution. The American Revolution asserted the Natural Rights of individual persons, and asserted that all legitimate political power arose from those persons. Government was to be the servant of the citizens, not the ruler. The American Revolution was anti-authoritarian, anti-monarchist and anti- state established religion. "Every man his own king and priest!" could have been the cry. Like it or not, these ideas came to us through white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian Protestants. Nope. The Founding Fathers were not Jews, they were not Italians, they were not Germans, they were not Japanese. Does that mean that the Anglo- Saxon genes produced the Founding Fathers' ideas? No. It means that those ideas were developed and nurtured within that culture. Nor do you have to be Anglo-Saxon to consider these ideas good. If a person who was brought up in the German culture thinks the Founding Fathers' ideas were good, that person can consciously adopt the ideas and live by them. Of course, in doing so, the person will have to reject the ideas of the German culture on the subject. The same applies to Italians, and to Jews, etc. A conflict arises when Americans who were brought up in, for example, German or Jewish cultures refuse to embrace the "every man his own king and priest" idea of the American Revolution. This is an issue of political loyalty. Of course German Americans can still enjoy sauerbraten and Wagner, Italians can still enjoy meatballs and Verdi . . . Victor Ostrovsky, the Mossad defector, has told us that the Mossad has relatively few paid employees, but a veritable contingent of people working for it. He says that Jews all over the world secretly work for the state of Israel as Mossad volunteers. (See "by Way of Deception," St. Martin's Paperbacks.) As Germany was an imperialist nation, as the US is an imperialist nation, so also is the Jewish nation, now, and probably before the modern state of Israel. In coming to this country and taking citizenship, our forefathers, no matter from which land, swore allegiance to our republic, and to abandon allegiance to all foreign princes. A friend of mine was a professor at a university during the Vietnam war, and an anti-war activist. He worked closely with another professor (Jewish), also an anti-war activist. When election time came around, the Jewish professor told my friend that he would vote for Nixon instead of McGovern because, even though Nixon's supported the war in Vietnam, his policy towards Israeli was supportive, whereas McGovern was anti-war and neutral on Israel. We see here that the loyalties of the Jewish professor were first to the Jewish homeland, Israel. America took second place. The above is an illustration of a real problem. The controversy around the US Jews pertains to their loyalty to the US and the goals of the Founding Fathers, and is a legitimate concern. - Linda Valentine At 10:09 PM 4/19/96 -0400, joaquin wrote: >I would most respectfully like to remind everyone that tomorrow, April 20, >is Adolf Hitler's birthday. The man has had a lot of bad press and his >ideology has been a casualty of so very many vicious and mendacious attacks. >I do this because, in my view, National Socialism is essential to civilized >living. >-- >Internet Communications of America, Inc. > > Carol A. Valentine "The UN made me do it!" Uncle Sam's great excuse for Bosnia, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Somalia, Nicaragua, Panama, El Salvador, Haiti, Iraq, Libya . . . I didn't see any UN flag at Waco . . . From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 10:22:09 PDT 1996 Article: 43940 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!tns.sdsu.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newshub.csu.net!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Anti-revisionists repair Camp Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:46:59 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 36 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmp33$ufa@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4lleqe$e70@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Workers will conserve the frame of Barracks # 39 and rebuild Barracks # >38. The site will be dedicated in 1997 as a museum focused on jewish >suffering , according to the Brandenburg Memorial Foundation. Hey, I forgot: we're going to have a holocaust museum in every home pretty soon: looky here..... Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:44 AM _London To Create "Holocaust" Museum_ (ANA) British officials announced yesterday (4/23/96) that London's Imperial War Museum will contain Europe's first comprehensive "holocaust" museum by the year 1999. They said it will emphasize how the British might have been able to do more to save the jews during the war. Suzanne Bardgett, coordinator of the project, said "Few in Britain were properly able to take on board the gravity of the jews' predicament." Rabbi Hugo Gryn said "It will make the point that in a civilized society, you can never be a bystander when something evil is happening." The cost of building the museum is $20 million and construction is to begin in January. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 10:22:12 PDT 1996 Article: 43992 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!fury.berkshire.net!lori.albany.net!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!news.randomc.com!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: alleged holocaust con't Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:14:55 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmn6v$m2o@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:44 AM _London To Create "Holocaust" Museum_ (ANA) British officials announced yesterday (4/23/96) that London's Imperial War Museum will contain Europe's first comprehensive "holocaust" museum by the year 1999. They said it will emphasize how the British might have been able to do more to save the jews during the war. Suzanne Bardgett, coordinator of the project, said "Few in Britain were properly able to take on board the gravity of the jews' predicament." Rabbi Hugo Gryn said "It will make the point that in a civilized society, you can never be a bystander when something evil is happening." The cost of building the museum is $20 million and construction is to begin in January. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 10:29:01 PDT 1996 Article: 20003 of alt.skinheads Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads Subject: can't trust them there j*ws Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:35:09 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 183 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmoct$d56@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler's birthday Re: the recent posts on Hitler's birthday. Here are some additional thoughts: Ideas and world views are not inherited genetically. They are passed down through the culture or the civilization to which a person belongs. Some people may be born into a society that practices communism and infanticide and authoritarian rule. A child growing up in this society acquires those values, and maintains them, unless the growing adult examines his ideas critically and rejects them. Any number of cultures subscribe to the idea of racial/cultural superiority. The Northern Europeans, and specifically Germans ("the master race"), have historically subscribed to this idea. So have the Jews ("God's chosen people.") In the case of the Germans, the Germanic tribes occupied a specific areas in Europe; in the case of the Jews, the "Jewish nation" was scattered throughout the world without a home base (between the diaspora and the establishment of the state of Israel.) German and Jewish cultures are marked by worship of the collective good, the collective wisdom, the beehive. The Old Testament is illustrative of this thread in Jewish history. It seems to me that the Holocaust in Nazi Germany occurred at least in part because "the master [German] race" and "God's chosen people [the Jews]" had a face-off. The Jews lost. I have a friend who was born an Israeli. He became a medical doctor and then an psychiatrist. He was an officer in the Israeli Army. After a few years he left in disgust, and came to the US. He told me that there was no difference between the Nazis and the Israelis--his explanation was that the dead Nazis had been reincarnated as modern day Israelis. The idea of the ruler and the ruled is endemic in history, from the Egyptians on down. A significant departure from this caste system of human organization was seen during the days of the American Revolution. The American Revolution asserted the Natural Rights of individual persons, and asserted that all legitimate political power arose from those persons. Government was to be the servant of the citizens, not the ruler. The American Revolution was anti-authoritarian, anti-monarchist and anti- state established religion. "Every man his own king and priest!" could have been the cry. Like it or not, these ideas came to us through white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian Protestants. Nope. The Founding Fathers were not Jews, they were not Italians, they were not Germans, they were not Japanese. Does that mean that the Anglo- Saxon genes produced the Founding Fathers' ideas? No. It means that those ideas were developed and nurtured within that culture. Nor do you have to be Anglo-Saxon to consider these ideas good. If a person who was brought up in the German culture thinks the Founding Fathers' ideas were good, that person can consciously adopt the ideas and live by them. Of course, in doing so, the person will have to reject the ideas of the German culture on the subject. The same applies to Italians, and to Jews, etc. A conflict arises when Americans who were brought up in, for example, German or Jewish cultures refuse to embrace the "every man his own king and priest" idea of the American Revolution. This is an issue of political loyalty. Of course German Americans can still enjoy sauerbraten and Wagner, Italians can still enjoy meatballs and Verdi . . . Victor Ostrovsky, the Mossad defector, has told us that the Mossad has relatively few paid employees, but a veritable contingent of people working for it. He says that Jews all over the world secretly work for the state of Israel as Mossad volunteers. (See "by Way of Deception," St. Martin's Paperbacks.) As Germany was an imperialist nation, as the US is an imperialist nation, so also is the Jewish nation, now, and probably before the modern state of Israel. In coming to this country and taking citizenship, our forefathers, no matter >from which land, swore allegiance to our republic, and to abandon allegiance to all foreign princes. A friend of mine was a professor at a university during the Vietnam war, and an anti-war activist. He worked closely with another professor (Jewish), also an anti-war activist. When election time came around, the Jewish professor told my friend that he would vote for Nixon instead of McGovern because, even though Nixon's supported the war in Vietnam, his policy towards Israeli was supportive, whereas McGovern was anti-war and neutral on Israel. We see here that the loyalties of the Jewish professor were first to the Jewish homeland, Israel. America took second place. The above is an illustration of a real problem. The controversy around the US Jews pertains to their loyalty to the US and the goals of the Founding Fathers, and is a legitimate concern. - Linda Valentine At 10:09 PM 4/19/96 -0400, joaquin wrote: >I would most respectfully like to remind everyone that tomorrow, April 20, >is Adolf Hitler's birthday. The man has had a lot of bad press and his >ideology has been a casualty of so very many vicious and mendacious attacks. >I do this because, in my view, National Socialism is essential to civilized >living. >-- >Internet Communications of America, Inc. > > Carol A. Valentine "The UN made me do it!" Uncle Sam's great excuse for Bosnia, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Somalia, Nicaragua, Panama, El Salvador, Haiti, Iraq, Libya . . . I didn't see any UN flag at Waco . . . From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 10:29:02 PDT 1996 Article: 20020 of alt.skinheads Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!news.sdsmt.edu!news.mid.net!newsfeeder.gi.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads Subject: Garaudy supported by all...except you gues Date: 24 Apr 1996 15:05:10 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 56 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4llfv6$1lhk@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Sunday, 21-Apr-96 11:57 PM >From Nando Times, internet version, Sunday April 21. * French champion of poor under fire over Holocaust PARIS - A Roman Catholic priest who champions France's poor and homeless came under fire Saturday for backing the author of a book that claims Hitler's killings of the Jews did not rank as genocide. Abbe Pierre, 83 and regularly shown by opinion polls to be the most popular person in France, defended author Roger Garaudy as an "honest man" despite a storm about his new book "The Founding Myths of Israeli Policy." The anti-racist group MRAP expressed dismay at Abbe Pierre's support for Garaudy, a long-time friend, and said it would seek to take Garaudy to court on charges of illegal revisionism about Nazi crimes in World War II. Garaudy told TF1 television that the Nazis committed "massacres" or "pogroms" of Jews but it was an exaggeration to call the killings a "Holocaust" or "genocide." "I consider that to compare Garaudy's work to revisionism is completely excessive," Abbe Pierre said. Abbe Pierre, who helped Jews escape from France to neutral Switzerland during World War II, said that Hitler's crimes may have been exaggerated by passions about Nazi abominations after the end of the war. He said a plaque at the Auschwitz death camp commemorated the deaths of FOUR MILLLION people there, even though the figure now accepted is ONE MILLION. "Even though I don't contest the overall figure of six million Jewish victims, my abomination would be the same faced with a million. At this level of horror, mathematics don't count," Abbe Pierre told the daily Le Monde. Abbe Pierre has long shamed politicians of all sides into action. With a soft voice and dishevelled white beard, dressed in simple robes, a beret and sturdy work shoes, he spent most of his life aiding society's outcasts. He said he had read some of Garaudy's work. "The worst service...one can render to a cause is to give it exaggerated arguments," he said. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 14:35:40 PDT 1996 Article: 32656 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Bucharest unrest per j*ws Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:25:41 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 84 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmnr5$1hia@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 09:24 AM From: Anton Subject: _Extreme Romanian politician stripped of immunity_ (Reuter Information Service) BUCHAREST (Apr 22, 1996 4:18 p.m. EDT) - The Romanian Senate on Monday stripped an extreme nationalist anti-Semitic politician of his parliamentary immunity, opening him up to possible prosecution for defamation. Corneliu Vadim Tudor, maverick and former court poet of late communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, lashed out at those behind the 85-39 vote. "I expected this to happen, the Senate is a bunch of crooks. This is illegal," Vadim Tudor shouted to about 30 supporters surrounded by dozens of riot police outside the Senate, formerly the old Communist Party central committee headquarters. At the root of the case was Vadim Tudor's vitriolic campaign against the two most powerful men in Romania, President Ion Iliescu and Intelligence Service chief Virgil Magureanu. "This is a crooked scheme of the pair, Iliescu and Magureanu," Tudor said. Using the pages of his Romania Mare newspaper, mouthpiece for his Greater Romania Party, Vadim Tudor published anti-Semitic and other smears, on at least one occasion involving his former ally Iliescu. "Comrade Iliescu, you subordinated the country to the Jews. The Jews brought you in power, you stay with the Jews," the weekly newspaper said last year. Such language is Vadim Tudor's stock-in-trade but had never been directed at Iliescu. Monday night's Senate vote means he could be compelled to face up to a dozen charges of defamation against individuals and state institutions, including the serious charge of defaming the authority of the presidency. A conviction could mean prison. Prosecutors will now decide if he has a case to answer. But more significantly for the immediate political outlook, the decision denies Vadim Tudor his cover of immunity and prevents him standing against Iliescu in elections this year. Analysts see stripping Vadim Tudor's immunity as part of the ruling Party of Social Democracy's campaign to break with nationalist allies and remake itself as a centrist party. The PDSR, criticised by western diplomats for relying on Vadim Tudor and other hardliners, used the insults in Romania Mare as a reason to break a coalition with Greater Romania. "Through this gesture we are showing that we do not give in to blackmail and to absurd accusations," PDSR president Adrian Nastase said the time it broke with Romania Mare last October. Liberal newspaper Libertatea welcomed moves to silence Vadim Tudor, but warned: "Vadim could turn into a martyr." -Written by Anton, editor ANA From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 14:35:41 PDT 1996 Article: 32657 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: consensus on j*ws grows Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:24:52 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 183 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmnpk$18ic@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler's birthday Re: the recent posts on Hitler's birthday. Here are some additional thoughts: Ideas and world views are not inherited genetically. They are passed down through the culture or the civilization to which a person belongs. Some people may be born into a society that practices communism and infanticide and authoritarian rule. A child growing up in this society acquires those values, and maintains them, unless the growing adult examines his ideas critically and rejects them. Any number of cultures subscribe to the idea of racial/cultural superiority. The Northern Europeans, and specifically Germans ("the master race"), have historically subscribed to this idea. So have the Jews ("God's chosen people.") In the case of the Germans, the Germanic tribes occupied a specific areas in Europe; in the case of the Jews, the "Jewish nation" was scattered throughout the world without a home base (between the diaspora and the establishment of the state of Israel.) German and Jewish cultures are marked by worship of the collective good, the collective wisdom, the beehive. The Old Testament is illustrative of this thread in Jewish history. It seems to me that the Holocaust in Nazi Germany occurred at least in part because "the master [German] race" and "God's chosen people [the Jews]" had a face-off. The Jews lost. I have a friend who was born an Israeli. He became a medical doctor and then an psychiatrist. He was an officer in the Israeli Army. After a few years he left in disgust, and came to the US. He told me that there was no difference between the Nazis and the Israelis--his explanation was that the dead Nazis had been reincarnated as modern day Israelis. The idea of the ruler and the ruled is endemic in history, from the Egyptians on down. A significant departure from this caste system of human organization was seen during the days of the American Revolution. The American Revolution asserted the Natural Rights of individual persons, and asserted that all legitimate political power arose from those persons. Government was to be the servant of the citizens, not the ruler. The American Revolution was anti-authoritarian, anti-monarchist and anti- state established religion. "Every man his own king and priest!" could have been the cry. Like it or not, these ideas came to us through white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian Protestants. Nope. The Founding Fathers were not Jews, they were not Italians, they were not Germans, they were not Japanese. Does that mean that the Anglo- Saxon genes produced the Founding Fathers' ideas? No. It means that those ideas were developed and nurtured within that culture. Nor do you have to be Anglo-Saxon to consider these ideas good. If a person who was brought up in the German culture thinks the Founding Fathers' ideas were good, that person can consciously adopt the ideas and live by them. Of course, in doing so, the person will have to reject the ideas of the German culture on the subject. The same applies to Italians, and to Jews, etc. A conflict arises when Americans who were brought up in, for example, German or Jewish cultures refuse to embrace the "every man his own king and priest" idea of the American Revolution. This is an issue of political loyalty. Of course German Americans can still enjoy sauerbraten and Wagner, Italians can still enjoy meatballs and Verdi . . . Victor Ostrovsky, the Mossad defector, has told us that the Mossad has relatively few paid employees, but a veritable contingent of people working for it. He says that Jews all over the world secretly work for the state of Israel as Mossad volunteers. (See "by Way of Deception," St. Martin's Paperbacks.) As Germany was an imperialist nation, as the US is an imperialist nation, so also is the Jewish nation, now, and probably before the modern state of Israel. In coming to this country and taking citizenship, our forefathers, no matter >from which land, swore allegiance to our republic, and to abandon allegiance to all foreign princes. A friend of mine was a professor at a university during the Vietnam war, and an anti-war activist. He worked closely with another professor (Jewish), also an anti-war activist. When election time came around, the Jewish professor told my friend that he would vote for Nixon instead of McGovern because, even though Nixon's supported the war in Vietnam, his policy towards Israeli was supportive, whereas McGovern was anti-war and neutral on Israel. We see here that the loyalties of the Jewish professor were first to the Jewish homeland, Israel. America took second place. The above is an illustration of a real problem. The controversy around the US Jews pertains to their loyalty to the US and the goals of the Founding Fathers, and is a legitimate concern. - Linda Valentine At 10:09 PM 4/19/96 -0400, joaquin wrote: >I would most respectfully like to remind everyone that tomorrow, April 20, >is Adolf Hitler's birthday. The man has had a lot of bad press and his >ideology has been a casualty of so very many vicious and mendacious attacks. >I do this because, in my view, National Socialism is essential to civilized >living. >-- >Internet Communications of America, Inc. > > Carol A. Valentine "The UN made me do it!" Uncle Sam's great excuse for Bosnia, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Somalia, Nicaragua, Panama, El Salvador, Haiti, Iraq, Libya . . . I didn't see any UN flag at Waco . . . From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 14:35:42 PDT 1996 Article: 32658 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Germany must perish Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:23:24 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 60 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmnms$2334@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Monday, 22-Apr-96 09:03 PM Below are quotes from Theodore N. Kaufman's Book Germany Must Perish... ----------------------------- This book was first published in 1941 and the New York Times called it: "A plan for permanent peace among civilzed Nations!" and Time Magazine called it "A Sensational Idea!" ----------------------------- "The population of Germany, excluding conquered and annexed territories, is about 70,000,000, almost equally divided between male and female. To achieve the purpose of german extinction it would be necessary to only sterilize some 48,000,000-- a figure which excludes, because of their limited power to procreate, males over 60 years of age, and females over 45." (Theodore N. Kaufman, Germany Must Perish - Pages 87 & 88) "Of course, after complete sterilization, there will cease to be a birth rate in Germany. At the normal death rate of 2% per annum, German life will diminish at the rate of 1,500,000 yearly. Accordlingly in the spam of two generations that which cost millions of lives and centuries of useless effort, namely, the elimination of Germanism and its carriers, will have been an accomplised fact. By virtue of its loss of self-propetuation German Will, will have atrophied and German power reduced to negligible importance." (Theodore N. Kaufman, Germany Must Perish - Pages 88 & 89) ----------------------------------- Anyone want to defend the So-called j*ws? "Mr. Morgenthau now stands convicted before the conscience of the world as an instigator of systematic annihilation of the German speaking people. The record further proves beyond any question of doubt, that these fanatical and reactionary high priests of hate and vengeance will never be able to defend their conspiracy before the bar of human reason and human decency." (Congresional Record, April 18, 1946 - U.S. Senator William Langer of N. Dakota) -------------------- -Submitted by Slayer From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 14:35:43 PDT 1996 Article: 32659 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: more & more j*w books Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:23:01 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 60 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmnm5$1af4@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Monday, 22-Apr-96 09:03 PM Below are quotes from Theodore N. Kaufman's Book Germany Must Perish... ----------------------------- This book was first published in 1941 and the New York Times called it: "A plan for permanent peace among civilzed Nations!" and Time Magazine called it "A Sensational Idea!" ----------------------------- "The population of Germany, excluding conquered and annexed territories, is about 70,000,000, almost equally divided between male and female. To achieve the purpose of german extinction it would be necessary to only sterilize some 48,000,000-- a figure which excludes, because of their limited power to procreate, males over 60 years of age, and females over 45." (Theodore N. Kaufman, Germany Must Perish - Pages 87 & 88) "Of course, after complete sterilization, there will cease to be a birth rate in Germany. At the normal death rate of 2% per annum, German life will diminish at the rate of 1,500,000 yearly. Accordlingly in the spam of two generations that which cost millions of lives and centuries of useless effort, namely, the elimination of Germanism and its carriers, will have been an accomplised fact. By virtue of its loss of self-propetuation German Will, will have atrophied and German power reduced to negligible importance." (Theodore N. Kaufman, Germany Must Perish - Pages 88 & 89) ----------------------------------- Anyone want to defend the So-called j*ws? "Mr. Morgenthau now stands convicted before the conscience of the world as an instigator of systematic annihilation of the German speaking people. The record further proves beyond any question of doubt, that these fanatical and reactionary high priests of hate and vengeance will never be able to defend their conspiracy before the bar of human reason and human decency." (Congresional Record, April 18, 1946 - U.S. Senator William Langer of N. Dakota) -------------------- -Submitted by Slayer From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 14:35:44 PDT 1996 Article: 32660 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: j*ws attack polit Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:21:23 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 84 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmnj3$1vpg@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 09:24 AM From: Anton Subject: _Extreme Romanian politician stripped of immunity_ (Reuter Information Service) BUCHAREST (Apr 22, 1996 4:18 p.m. EDT) - The Romanian Senate on Monday stripped an extreme nationalist anti-Semitic politician of his parliamentary immunity, opening him up to possible prosecution for defamation. Corneliu Vadim Tudor, maverick and former court poet of late communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, lashed out at those behind the 85-39 vote. "I expected this to happen, the Senate is a bunch of crooks. This is illegal," Vadim Tudor shouted to about 30 supporters surrounded by dozens of riot police outside the Senate, formerly the old Communist Party central committee headquarters. At the root of the case was Vadim Tudor's vitriolic campaign against the two most powerful men in Romania, President Ion Iliescu and Intelligence Service chief Virgil Magureanu. "This is a crooked scheme of the pair, Iliescu and Magureanu," Tudor said. Using the pages of his Romania Mare newspaper, mouthpiece for his Greater Romania Party, Vadim Tudor published anti-Semitic and other smears, on at least one occasion involving his former ally Iliescu. "Comrade Iliescu, you subordinated the country to the Jews. The Jews brought you in power, you stay with the Jews," the weekly newspaper said last year. Such language is Vadim Tudor's stock-in-trade but had never been directed at Iliescu. Monday night's Senate vote means he could be compelled to face up to a dozen charges of defamation against individuals and state institutions, including the serious charge of defaming the authority of the presidency. A conviction could mean prison. Prosecutors will now decide if he has a case to answer. But more significantly for the immediate political outlook, the decision denies Vadim Tudor his cover of immunity and prevents him standing against Iliescu in elections this year. Analysts see stripping Vadim Tudor's immunity as part of the ruling Party of Social Democracy's campaign to break with nationalist allies and remake itself as a centrist party. The PDSR, criticised by western diplomats for relying on Vadim Tudor and other hardliners, used the insults in Romania Mare as a reason to break a coalition with Greater Romania. "Through this gesture we are showing that we do not give in to blackmail and to absurd accusations," PDSR president Adrian Nastase said the time it broke with Romania Mare last October. Liberal newspaper Libertatea welcomed moves to silence Vadim Tudor, but warned: "Vadim could turn into a martyr." -Written by Anton, editor ANA From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 14:35:44 PDT 1996 Article: 32661 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!cdc2.cdc.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: can't trust a j*w, any j*w Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:20:39 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 183 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmnhn$18ic@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler's birthday Re: the recent posts on Hitler's birthday. Here are some additional thoughts: Ideas and world views are not inherited genetically. They are passed down through the culture or the civilization to which a person belongs. Some people may be born into a society that practices communism and infanticide and authoritarian rule. A child growing up in this society acquires those values, and maintains them, unless the growing adult examines his ideas critically and rejects them. Any number of cultures subscribe to the idea of racial/cultural superiority. The Northern Europeans, and specifically Germans ("the master race"), have historically subscribed to this idea. So have the Jews ("God's chosen people.") In the case of the Germans, the Germanic tribes occupied a specific areas in Europe; in the case of the Jews, the "Jewish nation" was scattered throughout the world without a home base (between the diaspora and the establishment of the state of Israel.) German and Jewish cultures are marked by worship of the collective good, the collective wisdom, the beehive. The Old Testament is illustrative of this thread in Jewish history. It seems to me that the Holocaust in Nazi Germany occurred at least in part because "the master [German] race" and "God's chosen people [the Jews]" had a face-off. The Jews lost. I have a friend who was born an Israeli. He became a medical doctor and then an psychiatrist. He was an officer in the Israeli Army. After a few years he left in disgust, and came to the US. He told me that there was no difference between the Nazis and the Israelis--his explanation was that the dead Nazis had been reincarnated as modern day Israelis. The idea of the ruler and the ruled is endemic in history, from the Egyptians on down. A significant departure from this caste system of human organization was seen during the days of the American Revolution. The American Revolution asserted the Natural Rights of individual persons, and asserted that all legitimate political power arose from those persons. Government was to be the servant of the citizens, not the ruler. The American Revolution was anti-authoritarian, anti-monarchist and anti- state established religion. "Every man his own king and priest!" could have been the cry. Like it or not, these ideas came to us through white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian Protestants. Nope. The Founding Fathers were not Jews, they were not Italians, they were not Germans, they were not Japanese. Does that mean that the Anglo- Saxon genes produced the Founding Fathers' ideas? No. It means that those ideas were developed and nurtured within that culture. Nor do you have to be Anglo-Saxon to consider these ideas good. If a person who was brought up in the German culture thinks the Founding Fathers' ideas were good, that person can consciously adopt the ideas and live by them. Of course, in doing so, the person will have to reject the ideas of the German culture on the subject. The same applies to Italians, and to Jews, etc. A conflict arises when Americans who were brought up in, for example, German or Jewish cultures refuse to embrace the "every man his own king and priest" idea of the American Revolution. This is an issue of political loyalty. Of course German Americans can still enjoy sauerbraten and Wagner, Italians can still enjoy meatballs and Verdi . . . Victor Ostrovsky, the Mossad defector, has told us that the Mossad has relatively few paid employees, but a veritable contingent of people working for it. He says that Jews all over the world secretly work for the state of Israel as Mossad volunteers. (See "by Way of Deception," St. Martin's Paperbacks.) As Germany was an imperialist nation, as the US is an imperialist nation, so also is the Jewish nation, now, and probably before the modern state of Israel. In coming to this country and taking citizenship, our forefathers, no matter >from which land, swore allegiance to our republic, and to abandon allegiance to all foreign princes. A friend of mine was a professor at a university during the Vietnam war, and an anti-war activist. He worked closely with another professor (Jewish), also an anti-war activist. When election time came around, the Jewish professor told my friend that he would vote for Nixon instead of McGovern because, even though Nixon's supported the war in Vietnam, his policy towards Israeli was supportive, whereas McGovern was anti-war and neutral on Israel. We see here that the loyalties of the Jewish professor were first to the Jewish homeland, Israel. America took second place. The above is an illustration of a real problem. The controversy around the US Jews pertains to their loyalty to the US and the goals of the Founding Fathers, and is a legitimate concern. - Linda Valentine At 10:09 PM 4/19/96 -0400, joaquin wrote: >I would most respectfully like to remind everyone that tomorrow, April 20, >is Adolf Hitler's birthday. The man has had a lot of bad press and his >ideology has been a casualty of so very many vicious and mendacious attacks. >I do this because, in my view, National Socialism is essential to civilized >living. >-- >Internet Communications of America, Inc. > > Carol A. Valentine "The UN made me do it!" Uncle Sam's great excuse for Bosnia, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Somalia, Nicaragua, Panama, El Salvador, Haiti, Iraq, Libya . . . I didn't see any UN flag at Waco . . . From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 15:36:18 PDT 1996 Article: 18097 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: Germany must perish Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:29:39 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 60 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmo2j$20nq@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Monday, 22-Apr-96 09:03 PM Below are quotes from Theodore N. Kaufman's Book Germany Must Perish... ----------------------------- This book was first published in 1941 and the New York Times called it: "A plan for permanent peace among civilzed Nations!" and Time Magazine called it "A Sensational Idea!" ----------------------------- "The population of Germany, excluding conquered and annexed territories, is about 70,000,000, almost equally divided between male and female. To achieve the purpose of german extinction it would be necessary to only sterilize some 48,000,000-- a figure which excludes, because of their limited power to procreate, males over 60 years of age, and females over 45." (Theodore N. Kaufman, Germany Must Perish - Pages 87 & 88) "Of course, after complete sterilization, there will cease to be a birth rate in Germany. At the normal death rate of 2% per annum, German life will diminish at the rate of 1,500,000 yearly. Accordlingly in the spam of two generations that which cost millions of lives and centuries of useless effort, namely, the elimination of Germanism and its carriers, will have been an accomplised fact. By virtue of its loss of self-propetuation German Will, will have atrophied and German power reduced to negligible importance." (Theodore N. Kaufman, Germany Must Perish - Pages 88 & 89) ----------------------------------- Anyone want to defend the So-called j*ws? "Mr. Morgenthau now stands convicted before the conscience of the world as an instigator of systematic annihilation of the German speaking people. The record further proves beyond any question of doubt, that these fanatical and reactionary high priests of hate and vengeance will never be able to defend their conspiracy before the bar of human reason and human decency." (Congresional Record, April 18, 1946 - U.S. Senator William Langer of N. Dakota) -------------------- -Submitted by Slayer From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 15:42:18 PDT 1996 Article: 26470 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!condor.ic.net!news.cic.net!news.worldpath.net!news.iag.net!news.math.psu.edu!news.cac.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: Hitler can have a birthday celebration too Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:32:53 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 183 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmo8l$1bf8@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler's birthday Re: the recent posts on Hitler's birthday. Here are some additional thoughts: Ideas and world views are not inherited genetically. They are passed down through the culture or the civilization to which a person belongs. Some people may be born into a society that practices communism and infanticide and authoritarian rule. A child growing up in this society acquires those values, and maintains them, unless the growing adult examines his ideas critically and rejects them. Any number of cultures subscribe to the idea of racial/cultural superiority. The Northern Europeans, and specifically Germans ("the master race"), have historically subscribed to this idea. So have the Jews ("God's chosen people.") In the case of the Germans, the Germanic tribes occupied a specific areas in Europe; in the case of the Jews, the "Jewish nation" was scattered throughout the world without a home base (between the diaspora and the establishment of the state of Israel.) German and Jewish cultures are marked by worship of the collective good, the collective wisdom, the beehive. The Old Testament is illustrative of this thread in Jewish history. It seems to me that the Holocaust in Nazi Germany occurred at least in part because "the master [German] race" and "God's chosen people [the Jews]" had a face-off. The Jews lost. I have a friend who was born an Israeli. He became a medical doctor and then an psychiatrist. He was an officer in the Israeli Army. After a few years he left in disgust, and came to the US. He told me that there was no difference between the Nazis and the Israelis--his explanation was that the dead Nazis had been reincarnated as modern day Israelis. The idea of the ruler and the ruled is endemic in history, from the Egyptians on down. A significant departure from this caste system of human organization was seen during the days of the American Revolution. The American Revolution asserted the Natural Rights of individual persons, and asserted that all legitimate political power arose from those persons. Government was to be the servant of the citizens, not the ruler. The American Revolution was anti-authoritarian, anti-monarchist and anti- state established religion. "Every man his own king and priest!" could have been the cry. Like it or not, these ideas came to us through white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian Protestants. Nope. The Founding Fathers were not Jews, they were not Italians, they were not Germans, they were not Japanese. Does that mean that the Anglo- Saxon genes produced the Founding Fathers' ideas? No. It means that those ideas were developed and nurtured within that culture. Nor do you have to be Anglo-Saxon to consider these ideas good. If a person who was brought up in the German culture thinks the Founding Fathers' ideas were good, that person can consciously adopt the ideas and live by them. Of course, in doing so, the person will have to reject the ideas of the German culture on the subject. The same applies to Italians, and to Jews, etc. A conflict arises when Americans who were brought up in, for example, German or Jewish cultures refuse to embrace the "every man his own king and priest" idea of the American Revolution. This is an issue of political loyalty. Of course German Americans can still enjoy sauerbraten and Wagner, Italians can still enjoy meatballs and Verdi . . . Victor Ostrovsky, the Mossad defector, has told us that the Mossad has relatively few paid employees, but a veritable contingent of people working for it. He says that Jews all over the world secretly work for the state of Israel as Mossad volunteers. (See "by Way of Deception," St. Martin's Paperbacks.) As Germany was an imperialist nation, as the US is an imperialist nation, so also is the Jewish nation, now, and probably before the modern state of Israel. In coming to this country and taking citizenship, our forefathers, no matter >from which land, swore allegiance to our republic, and to abandon allegiance to all foreign princes. A friend of mine was a professor at a university during the Vietnam war, and an anti-war activist. He worked closely with another professor (Jewish), also an anti-war activist. When election time came around, the Jewish professor told my friend that he would vote for Nixon instead of McGovern because, even though Nixon's supported the war in Vietnam, his policy towards Israeli was supportive, whereas McGovern was anti-war and neutral on Israel. We see here that the loyalties of the Jewish professor were first to the Jewish homeland, Israel. America took second place. The above is an illustration of a real problem. The controversy around the US Jews pertains to their loyalty to the US and the goals of the Founding Fathers, and is a legitimate concern. - Linda Valentine At 10:09 PM 4/19/96 -0400, joaquin wrote: >I would most respectfully like to remind everyone that tomorrow, April 20, >is Adolf Hitler's birthday. The man has had a lot of bad press and his >ideology has been a casualty of so very many vicious and mendacious attacks. >I do this because, in my view, National Socialism is essential to civilized >living. >-- >Internet Communications of America, Inc. > > Carol A. Valentine "The UN made me do it!" Uncle Sam's great excuse for Bosnia, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Somalia, Nicaragua, Panama, El Salvador, Haiti, Iraq, Libya . . . I didn't see any UN flag at Waco . . . From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 15:42:18 PDT 1996 Article: 26471 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.wildstar.net!cancer.vividnet.com!news.sojourn.com!condor.ic.net!news.cic.net!news.worldpath.net!news.iag.net!news.math.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: loyalty questioned.........again Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:32:23 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 183 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmo7n$20uc@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler's birthday Re: the recent posts on Hitler's birthday. Here are some additional thoughts: Ideas and world views are not inherited genetically. They are passed down through the culture or the civilization to which a person belongs. Some people may be born into a society that practices communism and infanticide and authoritarian rule. A child growing up in this society acquires those values, and maintains them, unless the growing adult examines his ideas critically and rejects them. Any number of cultures subscribe to the idea of racial/cultural superiority. The Northern Europeans, and specifically Germans ("the master race"), have historically subscribed to this idea. So have the Jews ("God's chosen people.") In the case of the Germans, the Germanic tribes occupied a specific areas in Europe; in the case of the Jews, the "Jewish nation" was scattered throughout the world without a home base (between the diaspora and the establishment of the state of Israel.) German and Jewish cultures are marked by worship of the collective good, the collective wisdom, the beehive. The Old Testament is illustrative of this thread in Jewish history. It seems to me that the Holocaust in Nazi Germany occurred at least in part because "the master [German] race" and "God's chosen people [the Jews]" had a face-off. The Jews lost. I have a friend who was born an Israeli. He became a medical doctor and then an psychiatrist. He was an officer in the Israeli Army. After a few years he left in disgust, and came to the US. He told me that there was no difference between the Nazis and the Israelis--his explanation was that the dead Nazis had been reincarnated as modern day Israelis. The idea of the ruler and the ruled is endemic in history, from the Egyptians on down. A significant departure from this caste system of human organization was seen during the days of the American Revolution. The American Revolution asserted the Natural Rights of individual persons, and asserted that all legitimate political power arose from those persons. Government was to be the servant of the citizens, not the ruler. The American Revolution was anti-authoritarian, anti-monarchist and anti- state established religion. "Every man his own king and priest!" could have been the cry. Like it or not, these ideas came to us through white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian Protestants. Nope. The Founding Fathers were not Jews, they were not Italians, they were not Germans, they were not Japanese. Does that mean that the Anglo- Saxon genes produced the Founding Fathers' ideas? No. It means that those ideas were developed and nurtured within that culture. Nor do you have to be Anglo-Saxon to consider these ideas good. If a person who was brought up in the German culture thinks the Founding Fathers' ideas were good, that person can consciously adopt the ideas and live by them. Of course, in doing so, the person will have to reject the ideas of the German culture on the subject. The same applies to Italians, and to Jews, etc. A conflict arises when Americans who were brought up in, for example, German or Jewish cultures refuse to embrace the "every man his own king and priest" idea of the American Revolution. This is an issue of political loyalty. Of course German Americans can still enjoy sauerbraten and Wagner, Italians can still enjoy meatballs and Verdi . . . Victor Ostrovsky, the Mossad defector, has told us that the Mossad has relatively few paid employees, but a veritable contingent of people working for it. He says that Jews all over the world secretly work for the state of Israel as Mossad volunteers. (See "by Way of Deception," St. Martin's Paperbacks.) As Germany was an imperialist nation, as the US is an imperialist nation, so also is the Jewish nation, now, and probably before the modern state of Israel. In coming to this country and taking citizenship, our forefathers, no matter >from which land, swore allegiance to our republic, and to abandon allegiance to all foreign princes. A friend of mine was a professor at a university during the Vietnam war, and an anti-war activist. He worked closely with another professor (Jewish), also an anti-war activist. When election time came around, the Jewish professor told my friend that he would vote for Nixon instead of McGovern because, even though Nixon's supported the war in Vietnam, his policy towards Israeli was supportive, whereas McGovern was anti-war and neutral on Israel. We see here that the loyalties of the Jewish professor were first to the Jewish homeland, Israel. America took second place. The above is an illustration of a real problem. The controversy around the US Jews pertains to their loyalty to the US and the goals of the Founding Fathers, and is a legitimate concern. - Linda Valentine At 10:09 PM 4/19/96 -0400, joaquin wrote: >I would most respectfully like to remind everyone that tomorrow, April 20, >is Adolf Hitler's birthday. The man has had a lot of bad press and his >ideology has been a casualty of so very many vicious and mendacious attacks. >I do this because, in my view, National Socialism is essential to civilized >living. >-- >Internet Communications of America, Inc. > > Carol A. Valentine "The UN made me do it!" Uncle Sam's great excuse for Bosnia, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Somalia, Nicaragua, Panama, El Salvador, Haiti, Iraq, Libya . . . I didn't see any UN flag at Waco . . . From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 15:42:19 PDT 1996 Article: 26475 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: oy vey, anudder vun Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:30:36 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmo4c$lri@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:44 AM _London To Create "Holocaust" Museum_ (ANA) British officials announced yesterday (4/23/96) that London's Imperial War Museum will contain Europe's first comprehensive "holocaust" museum by the year 1999. They said it will emphasize how the British might have been able to do more to save the jews during the war. Suzanne Bardgett, coordinator of the project, said "Few in Britain were properly able to take on board the gravity of the jews' predicament." Rabbi Hugo Gryn said "It will make the point that in a civilized society, you can never be a bystander when something evil is happening." The cost of building the museum is $20 million and construction is to begin in January. ===== Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 15:42:20 PDT 1996 Article: 26481 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: oy vey, anudder vun uv dees too Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:31:26 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 60 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmo5u$j6k@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Monday, 22-Apr-96 09:03 PM Below are quotes from Theodore N. Kaufman's Book Germany Must Perish... ----------------------------- This book was first published in 1941 and the New York Times called it: "A plan for permanent peace among civilzed Nations!" and Time Magazine called it "A Sensational Idea!" ----------------------------- "The population of Germany, excluding conquered and annexed territories, is about 70,000,000, almost equally divided between male and female. To achieve the purpose of german extinction it would be necessary to only sterilize some 48,000,000-- a figure which excludes, because of their limited power to procreate, males over 60 years of age, and females over 45." (Theodore N. Kaufman, Germany Must Perish - Pages 87 & 88) "Of course, after complete sterilization, there will cease to be a birth rate in Germany. At the normal death rate of 2% per annum, German life will diminish at the rate of 1,500,000 yearly. Accordlingly in the spam of two generations that which cost millions of lives and centuries of useless effort, namely, the elimination of Germanism and its carriers, will have been an accomplised fact. By virtue of its loss of self-propetuation German Will, will have atrophied and German power reduced to negligible importance." (Theodore N. Kaufman, Germany Must Perish - Pages 88 & 89) ----------------------------------- Anyone want to defend the So-called j*ws? "Mr. Morgenthau now stands convicted before the conscience of the world as an instigator of systematic annihilation of the German speaking people. The record further proves beyond any question of doubt, that these fanatical and reactionary high priests of hate and vengeance will never be able to defend their conspiracy before the bar of human reason and human decency." (Congresional Record, April 18, 1946 - U.S. Senator William Langer of N. Dakota) -------------------- -Submitted by Slayer From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Thu Apr 25 15:42:20 PDT 1996 Article: 26482 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: j*ws interfere in everyone's politics Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:33:50 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 84 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmoae$1866@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 09:24 AM From: Anton Subject: _Extreme Romanian politician stripped of immunity_ (Reuter Information Service) BUCHAREST (Apr 22, 1996 4:18 p.m. EDT) - The Romanian Senate on Monday stripped an extreme nationalist anti-Semitic politician of his parliamentary immunity, opening him up to possible prosecution for defamation. Corneliu Vadim Tudor, maverick and former court poet of late communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, lashed out at those behind the 85-39 vote. "I expected this to happen, the Senate is a bunch of crooks. This is illegal," Vadim Tudor shouted to about 30 supporters surrounded by dozens of riot police outside the Senate, formerly the old Communist Party central committee headquarters. At the root of the case was Vadim Tudor's vitriolic campaign against the two most powerful men in Romania, President Ion Iliescu and Intelligence Service chief Virgil Magureanu. "This is a crooked scheme of the pair, Iliescu and Magureanu," Tudor said. Using the pages of his Romania Mare newspaper, mouthpiece for his Greater Romania Party, Vadim Tudor published anti-Semitic and other smears, on at least one occasion involving his former ally Iliescu. "Comrade Iliescu, you subordinated the country to the Jews. The Jews brought you in power, you stay with the Jews," the weekly newspaper said last year. Such language is Vadim Tudor's stock-in-trade but had never been directed at Iliescu. Monday night's Senate vote means he could be compelled to face up to a dozen charges of defamation against individuals and state institutions, including the serious charge of defaming the authority of the presidency. A conviction could mean prison. Prosecutors will now decide if he has a case to answer. But more significantly for the immediate political outlook, the decision denies Vadim Tudor his cover of immunity and prevents him standing against Iliescu in elections this year. Analysts see stripping Vadim Tudor's immunity as part of the ruling Party of Social Democracy's campaign to break with nationalist allies and remake itself as a centrist party. The PDSR, criticised by western diplomats for relying on Vadim Tudor and other hardliners, used the insults in Romania Mare as a reason to break a coalition with Greater Romania. "Through this gesture we are showing that we do not give in to blackmail and to absurd accusations," PDSR president Adrian Nastase said the time it broke with Romania Mare last October. Liberal newspaper Libertatea welcomed moves to silence Vadim Tudor, but warned: "Vadim could turn into a martyr." -Written by Anton, editor ANA From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 07:16:22 PDT 1996 Article: 44549 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: more OLD books Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:16:14 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 60 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmn9e$q0m@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Monday, 22-Apr-96 09:03 PM Below are quotes from Theodore N. Kaufman's Book Germany Must Perish... ----------------------------- This book was first published in 1941 and the New York Times called it: "A plan for permanent peace among civilzed Nations!" and Time Magazine called it "A Sensational Idea!" ----------------------------- "The population of Germany, excluding conquered and annexed territories, is about 70,000,000, almost equally divided between male and female. To achieve the purpose of german extinction it would be necessary to only sterilize some 48,000,000-- a figure which excludes, because of their limited power to procreate, males over 60 years of age, and females over 45." (Theodore N. Kaufman, Germany Must Perish - Pages 87 & 88) "Of course, after complete sterilization, there will cease to be a birth rate in Germany. At the normal death rate of 2% per annum, German life will diminish at the rate of 1,500,000 yearly. Accordlingly in the spam of two generations that which cost millions of lives and centuries of useless effort, namely, the elimination of Germanism and its carriers, will have been an accomplised fact. By virtue of its loss of self-propetuation German Will, will have atrophied and German power reduced to negligible importance." (Theodore N. Kaufman, Germany Must Perish - Pages 88 & 89) ----------------------------------- Anyone want to defend the So-called j*ws? "Mr. Morgenthau now stands convicted before the conscience of the world as an instigator of systematic annihilation of the German speaking people. The record further proves beyond any question of doubt, that these fanatical and reactionary high priests of hate and vengeance will never be able to defend their conspiracy before the bar of human reason and human decency." (Congresional Record, April 18, 1946 - U.S. Senator William Langer of N. Dakota) -------------------- -Submitted by Slayer From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 11:39:03 PDT 1996 Article: 33110 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: mideast war Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:50:45 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 43 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ltfol$1fea@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Thursday, 25-Apr-96 06:00 AM 4/24/96 >From _Los Angeles Times_ Washington--The Pentagon's top scientists said yesterday that for the United States to destroy Libya's chemical weapons plant, as threatened, it will have to use nuclear weapons. The libyan chemical site is underground. During the Persian Gulf war, the U.S.'s most powerful conventional weapons proved futile in penetrating Saddam Hussein's underground bunkers. "If we wanted to destroy (the Libyan plant), B-61 will be the weapon of choice", said Harold P. Smith, an assistant to Defense Secty' William J. Perry. The remark was made during a breakfast session with reporters in response to questions about destroying the plant. B-61 is a tacticle nuclear device. In general when a top official makes 'premature' remarks, it lays the political & social groungwork (brainwash) for events to come and indicates that diplomatic initiatives and economic sanctions have failed. The scientist's comments constituted one of the first times since the Cold War ended that a top Pentagon official has even implied publicly that the U.S. might resort to nuclear weapons. The Libyan facility identified by U.S. intelligence is built in a mountain 40 miles southeast of Tripoli. Gadhafi has insisted it is part of a water project. CIA Director John M. Deutch has told Congress it is the largest chemical-weapons plant in the world. An artist's rendering, based on satellite photos, was published by the Pentagon. ========================================= Written by Sharon Stone From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 11:39:05 PDT 1996 Article: 33111 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Swiss under continued assault Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:51:22 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ltfpq$1tai@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:58 PM _Clinton Shows Support For WJC_ (ANA) President Clinton told the World Jewish Congress (WJC) today (4/24/96) that they have his "full moral and political support" in their quest to raid assets of so-called "holocaust victims" allegedly in Swiss banks. A WJC spokesman said "The question of Holocaust-era funds in Swiss banks was fully addressed and the President gave the WJC his full moral and political support. He even expressed willingness to work with Senator D'Amato of the Banking Committee on legislation if that was necessary." A representative of the Swiss Bankers Association (SBA) said that an independent commission would becreated to determine the amount of the assets and half of its members would be appointed by jewish groups and the other half by the SBA. It was alsoreported that this commission would be authorized to hire an international accounting firm and other "experts" to identify the assets that may have belonged to "victims." From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 11:39:05 PDT 1996 Article: 33112 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: j*wsbriefs # 782 Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:52:00 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 86 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ltfr0$18pa@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:58 PM _Clinton Shows Support For WJC_ (ANA) President Clinton told the World Jewish Congress (WJC) today (4/24/96) that they have his "full moral and political support" in their quest to gain assets of "holocaust victims" from Swiss banks. A WJC spokesman said "The question of Holocaust-era funds in Swiss banks was fully addressed and the President gave the WJC his full moral and political support. He even expressed willingness to work with Senator D'Amato of the Banking Committee on legislation if that was necessary." A representative of the Swiss Bankers Association (SBA) said that an independent commission would be created to determine the amount of the assets and half of its members would be appointed by jewish groups and the other half by the SBA. It was also reported that this commission would be authorized to hire an international accounting firm and other "experts" to identify the assets that may have belonged to "victims." -Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor Those old scions of loving neutrality, the Swiss, will now join the rest of mankind in their despising of these "monsters from hell". -ED ************** Coming to a theater near you: Around the world, a holocaust edifice of some sort is either planned, built or dedicated DAILY. Berlin 4/24/96 The cornerstone for Germany's holocaust memorial will be delayed & laid in 1999. A new design has to be found after the winning one from a competition was ruled too controversial, officials said today. Berlin artist christine JACKOB-MARKS and her team won with a 1,000-square-foot sloping stone plate to be engraved with names of millions of j*ws. German artists & newspapers sniped at the design as too 'grandiose and lacking educational value.' Great Britain Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:44 AM _London To Create "Holocaust" Museum_ (ANA) British officials announced yesterday (4/23/96) that London's Imperial War Museum will contain Europe's first comprehensive "holocaust" museum by the year 1999. They said it will emphasize how the British might have been able to do more to save the jews during the war. Suzanne Bardgett, coordinator of the project, said "Few in Britain were properly able to take on board the gravity of the jews' predicament." Rabbi Hugo Gryn said "It will make the point that in a civilized society, you can never be a bystander when something evil is happening." The cost of building the museum is $20 million and construction is to begin in January. Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor ************* 4/24/96 In other news, the US Embassy in Cairo, Egypt urged Americans today to exercise caution because of Islamic threats and the anger raised in the Arab world by israel's vicious military attacks on Lebanese civilian and infrastructure sites. US citizens were cautioned to avoid mosques, universities and other public places in Egypt tomorrow when Arab groups have called for demonstrations in solidartity with the Lebanese. Americans have been singled out in threats by Egyptian Muslims. *************** March 28, 1996 Los Angeles, Calif. The Los Angeles Times, in its inimical liberal fashion, left readers hurt & offended: several days before Easter, Christianity's most sacred holiday, an editorial cartoon slapped Christians by depicting Bob Dole as Jesus nailed to a cross . The Crown of Thorns around his head spells 'Christian Coalition." _Times_ officials refused to apologize. Simultaneously with the insulting cartoon, however, the _Times_ dropped cartoons 3 times recently by "B.C." cartoonist Johnny Hart, a regular therein, when he depicted Christians in a positive light. _Times_ editors pulled "B.C." cartoons marking Palm Sunday and Easter Sunday. In 1995 they pulled one commemorating Christmas. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 13:24:22 PDT 1996 Article: 18294 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: don't tread on Swiss Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:52:54 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ltfsm$hke@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:58 PM _Clinton Shows Support For WJC_ (ANA) President Clinton told the World Jewish Congress (WJC) today (4/24/96) that they have his "full moral and political support" in their quest to raid assets of so-called "holocaust victims" allegedly in Swiss banks. A WJC spokesman said "The question of Holocaust-era funds in Swiss banks was fully addressed and the President gave the WJC his full moral and political support. He even expressed willingness to work with Senator D'Amato of the Banking Committee on legislation if that was necessary." A representative of the Swiss Bankers Association (SBA) said that an independent commission would becreated to determine the amount of the assets and half of its members would be appointed by jewish groups and the other half by the SBA. It was alsoreported that this commission would be authorized to hire an international accounting firm and other "experts" to identify the assets that may have belonged to "victims." From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 13:24:25 PDT 1996 Article: 18295 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: j*wsbriefs # 782 Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:53:27 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 86 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ltftn$udm@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:58 PM _Clinton Shows Support For WJC_ (ANA) President Clinton told the World Jewish Congress (WJC) today (4/24/96) that they have his "full moral and political support" in their quest to gain assets of "holocaust victims" from Swiss banks. A WJC spokesman said "The question of Holocaust-era funds in Swiss banks was fully addressed and the President gave the WJC his full moral and political support. He even expressed willingness to work with Senator D'Amato of the Banking Committee on legislation if that was necessary." A representative of the Swiss Bankers Association (SBA) said that an independent commission would be created to determine the amount of the assets and half of its members would be appointed by jewish groups and the other half by the SBA. It was also reported that this commission would be authorized to hire an international accounting firm and other "experts" to identify the assets that may have belonged to "victims." -Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor Those old scions of loving neutrality, the Swiss, will now join the rest of mankind in their despising of these "monsters from hell". -ED ************** Coming to a theater near you: Around the world, a holocaust edifice of some sort is either planned, built or dedicated DAILY. Berlin 4/24/96 The cornerstone for Germany's holocaust memorial will be delayed & laid in 1999. A new design has to be found after the winning one from a competition was ruled too controversial, officials said today. Berlin artist christine JACKOB-MARKS and her team won with a 1,000-square-foot sloping stone plate to be engraved with names of millions of j*ws. German artists & newspapers sniped at the design as too 'grandiose and lacking educational value.' Great Britain Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:44 AM _London To Create "Holocaust" Museum_ (ANA) British officials announced yesterday (4/23/96) that London's Imperial War Museum will contain Europe's first comprehensive "holocaust" museum by the year 1999. They said it will emphasize how the British might have been able to do more to save the jews during the war. Suzanne Bardgett, coordinator of the project, said "Few in Britain were properly able to take on board the gravity of the jews' predicament." Rabbi Hugo Gryn said "It will make the point that in a civilized society, you can never be a bystander when something evil is happening." The cost of building the museum is $20 million and construction is to begin in January. Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor ************* 4/24/96 In other news, the US Embassy in Cairo, Egypt urged Americans today to exercise caution because of Islamic threats and the anger raised in the Arab world by israel's vicious military attacks on Lebanese civilian and infrastructure sites. US citizens were cautioned to avoid mosques, universities and other public places in Egypt tomorrow when Arab groups have called for demonstrations in solidartity with the Lebanese. Americans have been singled out in threats by Egyptian Muslims. *************** March 28, 1996 Los Angeles, Calif. The Los Angeles Times, in its inimical liberal fashion, left readers hurt & offended: several days before Easter, Christianity's most sacred holiday, an editorial cartoon slapped Christians by depicting Bob Dole as Jesus nailed to a cross . The Crown of Thorns around his head spells 'Christian Coalition." _Times_ officials refused to apologize. Simultaneously with the insulting cartoon, however, the _Times_ dropped cartoons 3 times recently by "B.C." cartoonist Johnny Hart, a regular therein, when he depicted Christians in a positive light. _Times_ editors pulled "B.C." cartoons marking Palm Sunday and Easter Sunday. In 1995 they pulled one commemorating Christmas. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 13:30:18 PDT 1996 Article: 26713 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: j*wsbriefs # 782 Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:54:31 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 86 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ltfvn$23su@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:58 PM _Clinton Shows Support For WJC_ (ANA) President Clinton told the World Jewish Congress (WJC) today (4/24/96) that they have his "full moral and political support" in their quest to gain assets of "holocaust victims" from Swiss banks. A WJC spokesman said "The question of Holocaust-era funds in Swiss banks was fully addressed and the President gave the WJC his full moral and political support. He even expressed willingness to work with Senator D'Amato of the Banking Committee on legislation if that was necessary." A representative of the Swiss Bankers Association (SBA) said that an independent commission would be created to determine the amount of the assets and half of its members would be appointed by jewish groups and the other half by the SBA. It was also reported that this commission would be authorized to hire an international accounting firm and other "experts" to identify the assets that may have belonged to "victims." -Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor Those old scions of loving neutrality, the Swiss, will now join the rest of mankind in their despising of these "monsters from hell". -ED ************** Coming to a theater near you: Around the world, a holocaust edifice of some sort is either planned, built or dedicated DAILY. Berlin 4/24/96 The cornerstone for Germany's holocaust memorial will be delayed & laid in 1999. A new design has to be found after the winning one from a competition was ruled too controversial, officials said today. Berlin artist christine JACKOB-MARKS and her team won with a 1,000-square-foot sloping stone plate to be engraved with names of millions of j*ws. German artists & newspapers sniped at the design as too 'grandiose and lacking educational value.' Great Britain Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:44 AM _London To Create "Holocaust" Museum_ (ANA) British officials announced yesterday (4/23/96) that London's Imperial War Museum will contain Europe's first comprehensive "holocaust" museum by the year 1999. They said it will emphasize how the British might have been able to do more to save the jews during the war. Suzanne Bardgett, coordinator of the project, said "Few in Britain were properly able to take on board the gravity of the jews' predicament." Rabbi Hugo Gryn said "It will make the point that in a civilized society, you can never be a bystander when something evil is happening." The cost of building the museum is $20 million and construction is to begin in January. Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor ************* 4/24/96 In other news, the US Embassy in Cairo, Egypt urged Americans today to exercise caution because of Islamic threats and the anger raised in the Arab world by israel's vicious military attacks on Lebanese civilian and infrastructure sites. US citizens were cautioned to avoid mosques, universities and other public places in Egypt tomorrow when Arab groups have called for demonstrations in solidartity with the Lebanese. Americans have been singled out in threats by Egyptian Muslims. *************** March 28, 1996 Los Angeles, Calif. The Los Angeles Times, in its inimical liberal fashion, left readers hurt & offended: several days before Easter, Christianity's most sacred holiday, an editorial cartoon slapped Christians by depicting Bob Dole as Jesus nailed to a cross . The Crown of Thorns around his head spells 'Christian Coalition." _Times_ officials refused to apologize. Simultaneously with the insulting cartoon, however, the _Times_ dropped cartoons 3 times recently by "B.C." cartoonist Johnny Hart, a regular therein, when he depicted Christians in a positive light. _Times_ editors pulled "B.C." cartoons marking Palm Sunday and Easter Sunday. In 1995 they pulled one commemorating Christmas. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 13:34:25 PDT 1996 Article: 44613 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: j*wsbriefs # 782 Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:47:23 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 86 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ltfib$1rli@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:58 PM _Clinton Shows Support For WJC_ (ANA) President Clinton told the World Jewish Congress (WJC) today (4/24/96) that they have his "full moral and political support" in their quest to gain assets of "holocaust victims" from Swiss banks. A WJC spokesman said "The question of Holocaust-era funds in Swiss banks was fully addressed and the President gave the WJC his full moral and political support. He even expressed willingness to work with Senator D'Amato of the Banking Committee on legislation if that was necessary." A representative of the Swiss Bankers Association (SBA) said that an independent commission would be created to determine the amount of the assets and half of its members would be appointed by jewish groups and the other half by the SBA. It was also reported that this commission would be authorized to hire an international accounting firm and other "experts" to identify the assets that may have belonged to "victims." -Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor Those old scions of loving neutrality, the Swiss, will now join the rest of mankind in their despising of these "monsters from hell". -ED ************** Coming to a theater near you: Around the world, a holocaust edifice of some sort is either planned, built or dedicated DAILY. Berlin 4/24/96 The cornerstone for Germany's holocaust memorial will be delayed & laid in 1999. A new design has to be found after the winning one from a competition was ruled too controversial, officials said today. Berlin artist christine JACKOB-MARKS and her team won with a 1,000-square-foot sloping stone plate to be engraved with names of millions of j*ws. German artists & newspapers sniped at the design as too 'grandiose and lacking educational value.' Great Britain Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:44 AM _London To Create "Holocaust" Museum_ (ANA) British officials announced yesterday (4/23/96) that London's Imperial War Museum will contain Europe's first comprehensive "holocaust" museum by the year 1999. They said it will emphasize how the British might have been able to do more to save the jews during the war. Suzanne Bardgett, coordinator of the project, said "Few in Britain were properly able to take on board the gravity of the jews' predicament." Rabbi Hugo Gryn said "It will make the point that in a civilized society, you can never be a bystander when something evil is happening." The cost of building the museum is $20 million and construction is to begin in January. Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor ************* 4/24/96 In other news, the US Embassy in Cairo, Egypt urged Americans today to exercise caution because of Islamic threats and the anger raised in the Arab world by israel's vicious military attacks on Lebanese civilian and infrastructure sites. US citizens were cautioned to avoid mosques, universities and other public places in Egypt tomorrow when Arab groups have called for demonstrations in solidartity with the Lebanese. Americans have been singled out in threats by Egyptian Muslims. *************** March 28, 1996 Los Angeles, Calif. The Los Angeles Times, in its inimical liberal fashion, left readers hurt & offended: several days before Easter, Christianity's most sacred holiday, an editorial cartoon slapped Christians by depicting Bob Dole as Jesus nailed to a cross . The Crown of Thorns around his head spells 'Christian Coalition." _Times_ officials refused to apologize. Simultaneously with the insulting cartoon, however, the _Times_ dropped cartoons 3 times recently by "B.C." cartoonist Johnny Hart, a regular therein, when he depicted Christians in a positive light. _Times_ editors pulled "B.C." cartoons marking Palm Sunday and Easter Sunday. In 1995 they pulled one commemorating Christmas. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 13:34:28 PDT 1996 Article: 44614 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: theft continues....... Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:47:55 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ltfjb$26m2@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:58 PM _Clinton Shows Support For WJC_ (ANA) President Clinton told the World Jewish Congress (WJC) today (4/24/96) that they have his "full moral and political support" in their quest to raid assets of so-called "holocaust victims" allegedly in Swiss banks. A WJC spokesman said "The question of Holocaust-era funds in Swiss banks was fully addressed and the President gave the WJC his full moral and political support. He even expressed willingness to work with Senator D'Amato of the Banking Committee on legislation if that was necessary." A representative of the Swiss Bankers Association (SBA) said that an independent commission would becreated to determine the amount of the assets and half of its members would be appointed by jewish groups and the other half by the SBA. It was alsoreported that this commission would be authorized to hire an international accounting firm and other "experts" to identify the assets that may have belonged to "victims." From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 13:34:29 PDT 1996 Article: 44615 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: A-Bomb Libya Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:48:26 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 43 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ltfka$27ec@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Thursday, 25-Apr-96 06:00 AM 4/24/96 >From _Los Angeles Times_ Washington--The Pentagon's top scientists said yesterday that for the United States to destroy Libya's chemical weapons plant, as threatened, it will have to use nuclear weapons. The libyan chemical site is underground. During the Persian Gulf war, the U.S.'s most powerful conventional weapons proved futile in penetrating Saddam Hussein's underground bunkers. "If we wanted to destroy (the Libyan plant), B-61 will be the weapon of choice", said Harold P. Smith, an assistant to Defense Secty' William J. Perry. The remark was made during a breakfast session with reporters in response to questions about destroying the plant. B-61 is a tacticle nuclear device. In general when a top official makes 'premature' remarks, it lays the political & social groungwork (brainwash) for events to come and indicates that diplomatic initiatives and economic sanctions have failed. The scientist's comments constituted one of the first times since the Cold War ended that a top Pentagon official has even implied publicly that the U.S. might resort to nuclear weapons. The Libyan facility identified by U.S. intelligence is built in a mountain 40 miles southeast of Tripoli. Gadhafi has insisted it is part of a water project. CIA Director John M. Deutch has told Congress it is the largest chemical-weapons plant in the world. An artist's rendering, based on satellite photos, was published by the Pentagon. ========================================= Written by Sharon Stone From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 13:34:31 PDT 1996 Article: 44631 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Hitler's B'day response Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:17:41 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 183 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmnc5$cc8@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 11:54 AM Subject: Re: Adolf Hitler's birthday Re: the recent posts on Hitler's birthday. Here are some additional thoughts: Ideas and world views are not inherited genetically. They are passed down through the culture or the civilization to which a person belongs. Some people may be born into a society that practices communism and infanticide and authoritarian rule. A child growing up in this society acquires those values, and maintains them, unless the growing adult examines his ideas critically and rejects them. Any number of cultures subscribe to the idea of racial/cultural superiority. The Northern Europeans, and specifically Germans ("the master race"), have historically subscribed to this idea. So have the Jews ("God's chosen people.") In the case of the Germans, the Germanic tribes occupied a specific areas in Europe; in the case of the Jews, the "Jewish nation" was scattered throughout the world without a home base (between the diaspora and the establishment of the state of Israel.) German and Jewish cultures are marked by worship of the collective good, the collective wisdom, the beehive. The Old Testament is illustrative of this thread in Jewish history. It seems to me that the Holocaust in Nazi Germany occurred at least in part because "the master [German] race" and "God's chosen people [the Jews]" had a face-off. The Jews lost. I have a friend who was born an Israeli. He became a medical doctor and then an psychiatrist. He was an officer in the Israeli Army. After a few years he left in disgust, and came to the US. He told me that there was no difference between the Nazis and the Israelis--his explanation was that the dead Nazis had been reincarnated as modern day Israelis. The idea of the ruler and the ruled is endemic in history, from the Egyptians on down. A significant departure from this caste system of human organization was seen during the days of the American Revolution. The American Revolution asserted the Natural Rights of individual persons, and asserted that all legitimate political power arose from those persons. Government was to be the servant of the citizens, not the ruler. The American Revolution was anti-authoritarian, anti-monarchist and anti- state established religion. "Every man his own king and priest!" could have been the cry. Like it or not, these ideas came to us through white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian Protestants. Nope. The Founding Fathers were not Jews, they were not Italians, they were not Germans, they were not Japanese. Does that mean that the Anglo- Saxon genes produced the Founding Fathers' ideas? No. It means that those ideas were developed and nurtured within that culture. Nor do you have to be Anglo-Saxon to consider these ideas good. If a person who was brought up in the German culture thinks the Founding Fathers' ideas were good, that person can consciously adopt the ideas and live by them. Of course, in doing so, the person will have to reject the ideas of the German culture on the subject. The same applies to Italians, and to Jews, etc. A conflict arises when Americans who were brought up in, for example, German or Jewish cultures refuse to embrace the "every man his own king and priest" idea of the American Revolution. This is an issue of political loyalty. Of course German Americans can still enjoy sauerbraten and Wagner, Italians can still enjoy meatballs and Verdi . . . Victor Ostrovsky, the Mossad defector, has told us that the Mossad has relatively few paid employees, but a veritable contingent of people working for it. He says that Jews all over the world secretly work for the state of Israel as Mossad volunteers. (See "by Way of Deception," St. Martin's Paperbacks.) As Germany was an imperialist nation, as the US is an imperialist nation, so also is the Jewish nation, now, and probably before the modern state of Israel. In coming to this country and taking citizenship, our forefathers, no matter >from which land, swore allegiance to our republic, and to abandon allegiance to all foreign princes. A friend of mine was a professor at a university during the Vietnam war, and an anti-war activist. He worked closely with another professor (Jewish), also an anti-war activist. When election time came around, the Jewish professor told my friend that he would vote for Nixon instead of McGovern because, even though Nixon's supported the war in Vietnam, his policy towards Israeli was supportive, whereas McGovern was anti-war and neutral on Israel. We see here that the loyalties of the Jewish professor were first to the Jewish homeland, Israel. America took second place. The above is an illustration of a real problem. The controversy around the US Jews pertains to their loyalty to the US and the goals of the Founding Fathers, and is a legitimate concern. - Linda Valentine At 10:09 PM 4/19/96 -0400, joaquin wrote: >I would most respectfully like to remind everyone that tomorrow, April 20, >is Adolf Hitler's birthday. The man has had a lot of bad press and his >ideology has been a casualty of so very many vicious and mendacious attacks. >I do this because, in my view, National Socialism is essential to civilized >living. >-- >Internet Communications of America, Inc. > > Carol A. Valentine "The UN made me do it!" Uncle Sam's great excuse for Bosnia, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Somalia, Nicaragua, Panama, El Salvador, Haiti, Iraq, Libya . . . I didn't see any UN flag at Waco . . . From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 13:37:17 PDT 1996 Article: 20474 of alt.skinheads Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads Subject: j*wsbriefs # 782 Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:55:36 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 86 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ltg1o$1sle@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:58 PM _Clinton Shows Support For WJC_ (ANA) President Clinton told the World Jewish Congress (WJC) today (4/24/96) that they have his "full moral and political support" in their quest to gain assets of "holocaust victims" from Swiss banks. A WJC spokesman said "The question of Holocaust-era funds in Swiss banks was fully addressed and the President gave the WJC his full moral and political support. He even expressed willingness to work with Senator D'Amato of the Banking Committee on legislation if that was necessary." A representative of the Swiss Bankers Association (SBA) said that an independent commission would be created to determine the amount of the assets and half of its members would be appointed by jewish groups and the other half by the SBA. It was also reported that this commission would be authorized to hire an international accounting firm and other "experts" to identify the assets that may have belonged to "victims." -Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor Those old scions of loving neutrality, the Swiss, will now join the rest of mankind in their despising of these "monsters from hell". -ED ************** Coming to a theater near you: Around the world, a holocaust edifice of some sort is either planned, built or dedicated DAILY. Berlin 4/24/96 The cornerstone for Germany's holocaust memorial will be delayed & laid in 1999. A new design has to be found after the winning one from a competition was ruled too controversial, officials said today. Berlin artist christine JACKOB-MARKS and her team won with a 1,000-square-foot sloping stone plate to be engraved with names of millions of j*ws. German artists & newspapers sniped at the design as too 'grandiose and lacking educational value.' Great Britain Date: Wednesday, 24-Apr-96 09:44 AM _London To Create "Holocaust" Museum_ (ANA) British officials announced yesterday (4/23/96) that London's Imperial War Museum will contain Europe's first comprehensive "holocaust" museum by the year 1999. They said it will emphasize how the British might have been able to do more to save the jews during the war. Suzanne Bardgett, coordinator of the project, said "Few in Britain were properly able to take on board the gravity of the jews' predicament." Rabbi Hugo Gryn said "It will make the point that in a civilized society, you can never be a bystander when something evil is happening." The cost of building the museum is $20 million and construction is to begin in January. Written by Anton H., ANA Assistant Editor ************* 4/24/96 In other news, the US Embassy in Cairo, Egypt urged Americans today to exercise caution because of Islamic threats and the anger raised in the Arab world by israel's vicious military attacks on Lebanese civilian and infrastructure sites. US citizens were cautioned to avoid mosques, universities and other public places in Egypt tomorrow when Arab groups have called for demonstrations in solidartity with the Lebanese. Americans have been singled out in threats by Egyptian Muslims. *************** March 28, 1996 Los Angeles, Calif. The Los Angeles Times, in its inimical liberal fashion, left readers hurt & offended: several days before Easter, Christianity's most sacred holiday, an editorial cartoon slapped Christians by depicting Bob Dole as Jesus nailed to a cross . The Crown of Thorns around his head spells 'Christian Coalition." _Times_ officials refused to apologize. Simultaneously with the insulting cartoon, however, the _Times_ dropped cartoons 3 times recently by "B.C." cartoonist Johnny Hart, a regular therein, when he depicted Christians in a positive light. _Times_ editors pulled "B.C." cartoons marking Palm Sunday and Easter Sunday. In 1995 they pulled one commemorating Christmas. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 13:37:19 PDT 1996 Article: 20475 of alt.skinheads Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads Subject: Yaaaaaaaaaa, Nuke 'em Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:56:06 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 43 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ltg2m$1rli@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Thursday, 25-Apr-96 06:00 AM 4/24/96 >From _Los Angeles Times_ Washington--The Pentagon's top scientists said yesterday that for the United States to destroy Libya's chemical weapons plant, as threatened, it will have to use nuclear weapons. The libyan chemical site is underground. During the Persian Gulf war, the U.S.'s most powerful conventional weapons proved futile in penetrating Saddam Hussein's underground bunkers. "If we wanted to destroy (the Libyan plant), B-61 will be the weapon of choice", said Harold P. Smith, an assistant to Defense Secty' William J. Perry. The remark was made during a breakfast session with reporters in response to questions about destroying the plant. B-61 is a tacticle nuclear device. In general when a top official makes 'premature' remarks, it lays the political & social groungwork (brainwash) for events to come and indicates that diplomatic initiatives and economic sanctions have failed. The scientist's comments constituted one of the first times since the Cold War ended that a top Pentagon official has even implied publicly that the U.S. might resort to nuclear weapons. The Libyan facility identified by U.S. intelligence is built in a mountain 40 miles southeast of Tripoli. Gadhafi has insisted it is part of a water project. CIA Director John M. Deutch has told Congress it is the largest chemical-weapons plant in the world. An artist's rendering, based on satellite photos, was published by the Pentagon. ========================================= Written by Sharon Stone From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 13:37:20 PDT 1996 Article: 20489 of alt.skinheads Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!loki.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads Subject: here a j*w, there a j*w Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:35:44 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 84 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmoe0$1hma@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Tuesday, 23-Apr-96 09:24 AM From: Anton Subject: _Extreme Romanian politician stripped of immunity_ (Reuter Information Service) BUCHAREST (Apr 22, 1996 4:18 p.m. EDT) - The Romanian Senate on Monday stripped an extreme nationalist anti-Semitic politician of his parliamentary immunity, opening him up to possible prosecution for defamation. Corneliu Vadim Tudor, maverick and former court poet of late communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, lashed out at those behind the 85-39 vote. "I expected this to happen, the Senate is a bunch of crooks. This is illegal," Vadim Tudor shouted to about 30 supporters surrounded by dozens of riot police outside the Senate, formerly the old Communist Party central committee headquarters. At the root of the case was Vadim Tudor's vitriolic campaign against the two most powerful men in Romania, President Ion Iliescu and Intelligence Service chief Virgil Magureanu. "This is a crooked scheme of the pair, Iliescu and Magureanu," Tudor said. Using the pages of his Romania Mare newspaper, mouthpiece for his Greater Romania Party, Vadim Tudor published anti-Semitic and other smears, on at least one occasion involving his former ally Iliescu. "Comrade Iliescu, you subordinated the country to the Jews. The Jews brought you in power, you stay with the Jews," the weekly newspaper said last year. Such language is Vadim Tudor's stock-in-trade but had never been directed at Iliescu. Monday night's Senate vote means he could be compelled to face up to a dozen charges of defamation against individuals and state institutions, including the serious charge of defaming the authority of the presidency. A conviction could mean prison. Prosecutors will now decide if he has a case to answer. But more significantly for the immediate political outlook, the decision denies Vadim Tudor his cover of immunity and prevents him standing against Iliescu in elections this year. Analysts see stripping Vadim Tudor's immunity as part of the ruling Party of Social Democracy's campaign to break with nationalist allies and remake itself as a centrist party. The PDSR, criticised by western diplomats for relying on Vadim Tudor and other hardliners, used the insults in Romania Mare as a reason to break a coalition with Greater Romania. "Through this gesture we are showing that we do not give in to blackmail and to absurd accusations," PDSR president Adrian Nastase said the time it broke with Romania Mare last October. Liberal newspaper Libertatea welcomed moves to silence Vadim Tudor, but warned: "Vadim could turn into a martyr." -Written by Anton, editor ANA From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 14:00:48 PDT 1996 Article: 16643 of misc.activism.militia Approved: militia-request@atype.com (7b62ef17504cd003707b3976bdcf7af2) From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Return-Path: Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!grapevine.lcs.mit.edu!atype.com!militia-request Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia Date: Sat, 27 Apr 96 16:03:04 GMT Message-ID: <830620984$4446@atype.com> Subject: Libya to be nuked, says Harold Smith Lines: 44 Date: Thursday, 25-Apr-96 06:00 AM 4/24/96 >From _Los Angeles Times_ Washington--The Pentagon's top scientists said yesterday that for the United States to destroy Libya's chemical weapons plant, as threatened, it will have to use nuclear weapons. The libyan chemical site is underground. During the Persian Gulf war, the U.S.'s most powerful conventional weapons proved futile in penetrating Saddam Hussein's underground bunkers. "If we wanted to destroy (the Libyan plant), B-61 will be the weapon of choice", said Harold P. Smith, an assistant to Defense Secty' William J. Perry. The remark was made during a breakfast session with reporters in response to questions about destroying the plant. B-61 is a tacticle nuclear device. In general when a top official makes 'premature' remarks, it lays the political & social groungwork (brainwash) for events to come and indicates that diplomatic initiatives and economic sanctions have failed. The scientist's comments constituted one of the first times since the Cold War ended that a top Pentagon official has even implied publicly that the U.S. might resort to nuclear weapons. The Libyan facility identified by U.S. intelligence is built in a mountain 40 miles southeast of Tripoli. Gadhafi has insisted it is part of a water project. CIA Director John M. Deutch has told Congress it is the largest chemical-weapons plant in the world. An artist's rendering, based on satellite photos, was published by the Pentagon. ========================================= Written by Sharon Stone From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 15:12:13 PDT 1996 Article: 33164 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!sunlight.bat.bellsouth.net!newshost.cyberramp.net!news4.agis.net!agis!ns2.mainstreet.net!news.us.world.net!news.inc.net!trellis.wwnet.com!news.thenet.net!hunter.premier.net!insync!news.io.com!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Jews subvert militias Date: 18 Apr 1996 08:34:12 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 14 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l4uq4$ngo@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4kgh5e$1j7i@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <829678629snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 > >> There are around 3 million Jews in the US out of a population of over >> 250,000,000. That's a bit over 1% of the population. Do you really >> believe that so few people can be so powerful. It shows a lot of respect >> for Jews and a very low opinion of Gentiles if you do. Gee, jews love to change numbers. First a couple of thousand civilian casualties of war become 6,000,000, now the 6,500,000 tribalists in the US of A become only 3,000,000. Sharon From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 16:45:03 PDT 1996 Article: 44672 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!gatech!news.jsums.edu!news2.cais.net!news.cais.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: join the pepsi conspiracy Date: 25 Apr 1996 02:49:12 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 4 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4lmp78$ukq@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <317d4d95.167eb0e7@asparagus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Great idea......but where ya gonna store 'em? Sandra From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sat Apr 27 18:34:11 PDT 1996 Article: 253522 of talk.politics.guns Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Subject: BIG guns a comin' Date: 27 Apr 1996 15:59:34 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 43 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ltg96$1k4o@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Thursday, 25-Apr-96 06:00 AM 4/24/96 >From _Los Angeles Times_ Washington--The Pentagon's top scientists said yesterday that for the United States to destroy Libya's chemical weapons plant, as threatened, it will have to use nuclear weapons. The libyan chemical site is underground. During the Persian Gulf war, the U.S.'s most powerful conventional weapons proved futile in penetrating Saddam Hussein's underground bunkers. "If we wanted to destroy (the Libyan plant), B-61 will be the weapon of choice", said Harold P. Smith, an assistant to Defense Secty' William J. Perry. The remark was made during a breakfast session with reporters in response to questions about destroying the plant. B-61 is a tacticle nuclear device. In general when a top official makes 'premature' remarks, it lays the political & social groungwork (brainwash) for events to come and indicates that diplomatic initiatives and economic sanctions have failed. The scientist's comments constituted one of the first times since the Cold War ended that a top Pentagon official has even implied publicly that the U.S. might resort to nuclear weapons. The Libyan facility identified by U.S. intelligence is built in a mountain 40 miles southeast of Tripoli. Gadhafi has insisted it is part of a water project. CIA Director John M. Deutch has told Congress it is the largest chemical-weapons plant in the world. An artist's rendering, based on satellite photos, was published by the Pentagon. ========================================= Written by Sharon Stone From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Sun Apr 28 12:47:38 PDT 1996 Article: 44999 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!sunlight.bat.bellsouth.net!news.eng.bellsouth.net!news1.zap.net!news1.i1.net!imci2!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: j*ws take poll Date: 17 Apr 1996 13:59:47 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 145 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4l2tgj$8dm@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 _Poll: Anti-Semitism at low ebb_ (AP) MOSCOW (Apr 16, 1996 2:17 p.m. EDT) -- Hostility toward Jews has ebbed as Russians find new targets for their anger -- primarily the Chechens, according to poll results released Tuesday. The nationwide survey was conducted for the American Jewish Committee by the ROMIR polling firm. A spokesman for the Jewish group said the results warn of a potential for problems for Jews and others. "At this moment in Russian society, there are other groups that serve as a lightning rod, as a magnet, that attract anger, that attract hostility, that attract frustration," said David Singer, research director for the New York-based organization. "A society that is intolerant for one group by definition has the capacity for being intolerant toward other groups as well," he told reporters. Russia has a history of discriminating against Jews dating to czarist times. The reforms of the 1980s unleashed a new wave of anti-Semitism led by hate groups and hard-liners who blamed Jews for economic and political chaos and other misfortunes. Still, the survey found that overall, hostility toward Jews in Russia now appears to be relatively low -- especially compared with animosity toward the Chechens and other Caucasus Mountains groups. Asked which groups behave in a manner that provokes hostility in Russia, 4 percent said Jews. Seventy-one percent named the Chechens, who have been fighting for more than four years to secede from Russia. Other groups who received negative responses included Azerbaijanis, 31 percent, Armenians, 25 percent, and Gypsies, 24 percent. Respondents were read a list of 11 groups and were able to name others or say no group provoked hostility. They were allowed to give multiple answers. The poll, based on 1,581 face-to-face interviews from Jan. 12 to Feb. 7, carried a margin of error of 3 percentage points. Seventeen percent said they would prefer not to have Jews as neighbors. Fourteen percent said Jews have too much influence in society. Several other European countries where the American Jewish Committee has sponsored surveys in the past two years: Germany, Austria, Hungary and Poland. Ultranationalist politician Vladimir Zhirinovsky called recently for the resettlement of Jews away from the general population in Russia and the United States. Despite what he called the overall positive results, Singer emphasized that anti-Semitism remains "embedded in Russian society." The poll also found that many Russians are ignorant of even the most basic facts about the extermination of millions of Jews in the Holocaust. Only 21 percent could correctly identify 6 million as the number of Jews killed by the Nazis in World War II, 50 percent could identify Auschwitz, Dachau and Treblinka as concentration camps, and 34 percent knew European Jews were forced to wear a yellow Star of David on their clothes. ===== Subject: Israel launches holocaust against Lebanon even as Israel marks Holocaust day _Sirens wail throughout Israel to mark Holocaust Day_ (AP) JERUSALEM (Apr 16, 1996 2:30 p.m. EDT) -- Israelis in northern bomb shelters and throughout Israel stood in silence for two minutes today as sirens wailed to mark Holocaust Remembrance Day. In the northern town of Kiryat Shemona, residents observed the silence inside bomb shelters as rockets fired by Iranian-backed guerrillas in Lebanon continued to fall. Television footage showed Israeli soldiers on Israel's border with Lebanon standing alongside their tanks to observe the silence. Israel's two television stations broadcast talk shows on the Holocaust from studios in Kiryat Shemona, and some Israelis drew parallels between the persistent attacks of Islamic militants and the Nazi genocide. The names of Holocaust victims were read at state ceremonies held throughout Israel, except in Kiryat Shemona, where ceremonies were called off because of the fighting between Israel and the Hezbollah guerrillas. At a ceremony in Israel's parliament, Prime Minister Shimon Peres, who was born in Poland, read the names of his grandparents and uncle who died at the hands of the Nazis. Six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. "My grandfather Rabbi Zvi Miltzer, may he rest in peace, my grandmother Rivka Miltzer ... my Uncle Michael Miltzer. All three went up in flames together with the synagogue in the town of Vishniva," Peres said. People stopped their cars and stood in the middle of the road when the sirens blared at 10 a.m. Buses pulled over to the side of highways and passengers filed out to stand in silence. The day of national mourning for the victims of the Nazi Holocaust has been marked annually in Israel since the founding of the Jewish state in 1948. Many of Israel's founders were {false} Jews from eastern Europe. Holocaust Remembrance Day is calculated according to the Jewish calendar to fall between the date the Warsaw Ghetto uprising began in Poland in 1943 and Israel's Memorial Day, which is April 23 this year. State television broadcast documentaries on the Holocaust, including testimony by survivors. Radio stations refrained from playing songs in English, playing somber songs in Hebrew, including prayers and poems about the Holocaust. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 30 23:41:09 PDT 1996 Article: 33684 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Lebanese undergoing Holocaust Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:00:48 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 399 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2p3g$rc4@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Saturday, 27-Apr-96 11:13 AM Subject: READ THIS YOU FUCKING MEDIA WHORES Content-Length: 26702 The subject line is for the media whores, not the distribution list. Everytime one of KKKlinton's backers is assassinated, i.e., Ron Brown being the most recent, KKKlinton throws money at Israel. Just a coincidence? AEN NEWS This email was received directly from Beirut. It is a compelling testimony of someone living through the horrors currently being inflicted upon our sisters and brothers there. I will include her warning, though, about the language in the post: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 18 Apr 1996 22:51:00 -0200 From: Aboudi@BIGnet.com.lb Subject: Down but not out! Hi. Firas is in the states. I will hopefully be in the states around the 1st week of July to join a research program. This is the situation: We are ready to evacuate immediately, I think!!! Things here are NOT improving. I do not know how much longer we can communicate - be it thru e-mail or phone. The Israeli's are shelling nothing but civilian targets. They hit not a single Hizbullah target. The sea ports are closed because of Israeli gunboats warding off ships!! They shot three of the power stations, rendering one of them totally nonfunctional. According to the new, one of them has attained damages worth 3 millions USDs. They are also shooting the telephone switchboards. They have gunned one of the main ones, and off and on they have destroyed major telephone cables around the country. I know that at least 18000 phones are out! Things are really NOT optimistic here. Schools have been shut down for at least one more week. I do not know if my uni will open. Please distribute this message please to as many people as you can; it is important that they see the truth. Today..... they attacked a UN center. It was a bomb shelter. They massacred every soul in there - mentally and physically. Hundreds of armless, helpless, hungry people were hiding in two tents. The Israeli's attacked the base. People started fleeing into the shelters, but they did not make it on time. The seen was a giagantic shish kabab scene!!!! Bodies were charcoaled.... I actually saw some guts, intestines, and other gross things..... it was an open anatomy class, for heaven's sake.... my girlfriend burst into tears... so did my mom!!! Who is the attacker here? A motherfucker behind a tank or a child who is just looking for food and shelter???? The folks from the south are all packed in schools in Beirut. Things are not sanitary at all. Diseases are beginning to spread! For God's sake who is the aggressor!?!?!? They showed us how the Israelis take a moment of silence for the massacre of the Jews in Germany!!!!!! What is this.... some kind of avenge?!?! We have to pay for it??!? Half a million people were forced out of their homes because their presence would threaten the heavily armed army of Israel..... the tanks are vulnerable to an attack from young children!!! Children are lethal...... we should abolish them....eh?????? Man... the situation is not improving. What is the world after... destroying Lebanon's new infrastructure because it could beat Israel's economy in a few years???? Is it after taking away the Arab's arsenal and money?? If Syria were to move, the American Air Force and the Israeli Air Force would take it as an attack and a breach of peace!!!!!!! They take our land.... and call us aggressors. They say that if we stop attacking them with a few guerilla soldiers, they would leave..... is this preposterous or what??? You occupy my house and I ask to leave, but you refuse to because I am hitting you?!??!? Well..... leave my house and I will not attack you. You just ought to see the brains of 3 day old splattered all over the blanket!!! His head lost its top!!!! Literally!!!! The 3-day-old had no top to his head.... his brains were over the blanker and on the floor. They wiped out 2 families of 12 people in one building...... their argument.... Hizbullah fired a Katyusha from that area..... bullshit!!!! Since the beginning of the attacks, the Israeli army has hit nothing.... NOTHING... but civilian targets..... An ambulance with 4 children and old folks was hit by a rocket from a plane.... their excuse: The driver was Hizbullah..... now give me a break!!!!!! WE ARE THE KILLERS....WE OWN THE HI-TECH STUFF..... For God's sake, we do not even have an airforce!!!!!!! We have one bloody fucked up jet.... just one!!!!!!!!! Tomorrow morning I am taking my car to all the near grocery stores to buy as much baby milk as the car can carry and distribute it all to the schools that have lactating children or children in need of milk. Our academic year has been disrupted because the southerners have been placed in schools. If anyone wants the true scenes, please contact me and I will do my best to send a copy. I have two INTERNET addresses: ziad-g@beirut.com aboudi@bignet.com.lb I am now using the aboudi one. Please send your messages to both. Take care. Aboudi Posted mike_burns@margeotes.com Thu Apr 25 18:13:07 1996 Mail*Link(r) SMTP FWD>An Antidote 2: Other news on the Lebanon attacks An Antidote 2: Other news on the Lebanon attacks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REALITY BITES AT QANA By Robert Fisk The Independent' - 4/22/96 Qana, Southern Lebanon Herve de Charette's face was as white as death. The French Foreign Minister, neatly clad in blue suit and tie, had gingerly walked through the scene of last week's massacre at the UN's compound, nodding diplomatically as the UN's Fijian commander described the 12 minutes in which Israeli shells slaughtered up to 120 refugees, the sliced-up corpses that his soldiers were forced to pick up, the difficulty in identifying parts of the children who had been torn to pieces. Mr de Charette listened with distaste. But then he was confronted by a survivor. Fawzaya Zrir, a small, frail woman in a scarf, simply walked up to the French Foreign Minister and began talking to him with an odd mixture of affection and anger. "For us, France is our mother and God is our Father," she said in a flight of rhetoric that might have been written by the Quai d'Orsay public relations men, who beamed happily at this fortunate encounter. Then things began to go wrong. "We have lived through hell," Mrs Zrir continued. "The people were chopped into pieces by the Israeli bombs. They bleed, these people. You should have seen the heads." At the French foreign minister's right, a Lebanese softly translated the woman's dreadful words. The PR men began to look uneasy. "We have lived here 40 years and now we are treated like animals," the woman cried. "Do you know what the dogs did at night after the killings? They were hungry and I saw them in the ruins eating fingers and pieces of our people." Mr de Charette stared at her as if he had seen a ghost. This had clearly not been part of the programme, a schedule that was supposed to have whisked the foreign minister from a light lunch at UN headquarters in Naqqoura to a photo-opportunity on the roof of the wrecked UN battalion HQ, a three-minutes press conference to give the impression of openness and a swift drive back to the coast and a helicopter to Beirut - everything, in fact, that would enhance France's much-trumpeted love for Lebanon. Reality had very definitely not been part of the programme. A UN soldier was quite blunt about it. "This place is going to be turned into one of those awful pilgrimage sites for the great and the good," he muttered. "Boutros-Ghali sent his emissaries today to express their horror. But they'll do no more than they did after Srebrenica. They'll tut-tut and shrug it off. and they won#018#t even have the guts to condemn Israel even now - for this wickedness." And indeed, the UN Secretary-General did send General Frank Van Kappen of the Netherlands army - not, perhaps, a happy choice after the Dutch army's disgrace at Srebrenica and he duly marched round the site of the worst carnage, asking how many rounds landed, where the Katyusha missiles were fired from and whether he could be shown this site to discover if any Israeli shells bad fallen there. He would be meeting with General Amnon lipkin Shahak, the Israeli chief of staff, he said. Yes, he would be asking to meet the soldiers who fired the fatal artillery rounds - "fat chance of that," another UN soldier said as he listened to all this - and with that, Van Kappen, an immense figure in his steel flak jacket and huge helmet clanked out of the compound with a colonel from the Royal Engineers. Mr de Charette was even more gentle of spirit. What had happened on Thursday was 'unfortunate", an event for which France wished to show its sympathy for the Lebanese. So how did it rank in the scale of civilian atrocities? How did it rank, for example, beside the Sarajevo market massacre? "Frankly," the Foreign Minister replied sharply, "I have not had an opportunity to make categories of unhappiness we have to work to do is to make it impossible for this to happen in the future in Lebanon." And so any all of us. Did he believe Israel had given sufficient explanation of the massacre? "I hear there is an inquiry we have to await the result." The problem, however is that neither America nor Europe are going to condemn a country which pounded refugees of Qana with 155mm shells for 12 minutes; and such condemnation is about the only palliative that the Lebanese might accept for the moment. And you can see their point. On the coast road back to Beirut last night there were burning cars, civilians deliberately targeted by Israeli warships north of Sidon, three of whom had been badly wounded. Had this being a Syrian warship shelling Israeli civilians on the Haifa-Tel Aviv road, of course, Mr Clinton himself would have deplored -rightly- an act of "international terrorism". But not a word of criticism about this scandalous targeting of Lebanese civilians was uttered by the foreign ministers of America, Russia, France and Italy as they sought to bring an end to an apparently unstoppable war. Forwarded by: MID-EAST REALITIES News, Information, & Analysis that Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Do Not Want You To Know! To receive MER regularly message to MIDDLEEAST@aol.com with the words "Send MER". ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, Apr 18, 1996 7:54 PM EDT Posted: JCOME Subj: JCOME Condemns Israeli Policies Toward Lebanese & Palestinians - Press Release Jewish Committee On The Middle East P.O. Box 18367 - Washington, D.C. 20036 (202) 362-JCOME (362-5266) Fax: (202) 362-6965 Email:JCOME@aol.com The only national organization led by American Jews advocating a sovereign, independent and truly democratic Palestinian State in all of the occupied territories with capital in Jerusalem J C O M E P r e s s R e l e a s e - 4/18/96 For press spokesperson contact (202) 362-5266, Ext 278, 24-hours. JCOME condemns Israeli actions in Lebanon. Furthermore JCOME believes the Israelis are involved in a gross campaign of disinformation and deception regarding their actual policies and motives, both in regard to the Palestinians as well as in Lebanon. This afternoon the Israeli Army Chief of Staff said there have been "no mistakes on Israel's part" and Prime Minister Shimon Peres blamed Lebanon and Hizballah for what Israel is doing claiming Israel's policies of gross collective punishment are justifiable. These Israeli attitudes, coupled with Israeli policies are totally unacceptable. Furthermore, the complicity of the United States government, especially the Clinton Administration, in arming and encouraging the Israelis should be of growing concern to all Americans. Just yesterday MID-EAST REALITIES sent out the information contained on which has appeared in the British press outlining the cynical Israeli policy of targetting civilians and devastating Lebanon -- and this was all published prior to today's tragic developements. It should not be forgotten that Hizballah was created in the aftermath of Israel's terrible destruction of Lebanon in 1982 -- during which tens of thousands of people were killed and terrible massacres comparable to war crimes occurred with clear Israeli complicity and knowledge. Israel's occupation of parts of Lebanon ever since has created the conditions for Hizballah's growth and support in opposing Israel's occupation. JCOME believes Israel should immediately suspend all military operations in Lebanon and should immediately agree to fully withdraw from all Lebanese territory as a precondition for serious negotiations with Lebanon, Syria, and Hizballah. JCOME further believes that Israel should stop its policies of attempting to put Palestinians on reservations in the name of peace and publicly accept Palestinian Statehood in all the areas of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem. # # # # Since 1988 JCOME has supported full Palestinian Statehood in all of the territories occupied by Israel including East Jerusalem, and full Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon to the recognized international border. JCOME helps produce and distribute the unique weekly TV Program "Mid- East Realities" showing on all cable systems in the Washington area and regular MER information on the Internet. JCOME Advisory Committee: Prof. Jane Adas; Rutgers Univ.; Prof. Alex Alland, Columbia University; Prof. Michael Astour, Univ. of Southern Il.; Prof. Howard Baumgartel, Emeritus Univ. of Kansas; Prof. Charles Black, Emeritus Yale Univ Law School; Mark Bruzonsky; writer and lawyer; Former Washington Representative, World Jewish Congress; Prof. Noam Chomsky, M.I.T.; Mark Dow, Miami; Prof. Richard Falk, Princeton Univ.; Prof. Sherna Gluck, CA State Univ (Long Beach); Prof. Clement Henry, Univ. Of TX; Prof. Herbert Hill, Univ of WI (Madison); Prof. Elie Katz; Sonoma State Univ; Prof. George Kent, Univ. Of Hawaii; Jeremy Levin, Former CNN Beirut Bureau Chief and hostage; Prof. Seymour Melman, Columbia Univ.; Henry Schwarzschild, New York; Prof. Herbert Schiller, Univ. of CA (San Diego); Prof. J. David Singer, Univ of MI (Ann Arbor); Ms. Shifra Stern, New York. With Jewish Professors at over 175 Universities and supporters of all backgrounds nationwide. ________________________________________________ From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Tue Apr 30 23:41:10 PDT 1996 Article: 33685 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Sanctuary??? Not to israelis Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:01:42 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 96 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2p56$1s9a@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Thu, Apr 25, 1996 1:13 PM EDT Two articles by Robert Fisk published in THE INDEPENDENT in London: MASSACRE IN SANCTUARY; EYEWITNESS By Robert Fisk The Independent 4/19/96, page 1 Qana, southern Lebanon - It was a massacre. Not since Sabra and Chatila had I seen the innocent slaughtered like this. The Lebanese refugee women and children and men lay in heaps, their hands or arms or legs missing, beheaded or disembowelled. There were well over a hundred of them. A baby lay without a head. The Israeli shells had scythed through them as they lay in the United Nations shelter, believing that they were safe under the world's protection. Like the Muslims of Srebrenica, the Muslims of Qana were wrong. In front of a burning building of the UN's Fijian battalion headquarters, a girl held a corpse in her arms, the body of a grey- haired man whose eyes were staring at her, and she rocked the corpse back and forth in her arms, keening and weeping and crying the same words over and over: "My father, my father." A Fijian UN soldier stood amid a sea of bodies and, without saying a word, held aloft the body of a headless child. "The Israelis have just told us they'll stop shelling the area," a UN soldier said, shaking with anger. "Are we supposed to thank them?" In the remains of a burning building - the conference room of the Fijian UN headquarters - a pile of corpses was burning. The roof had crashed in flames onto their bodies, cremating them in front of my eyes. When I walked towards them, I slipped on a human hand... Israel's slaughter of civilians in this terrible 10-day offensive - 206 by last night - has been so cavalier, so ferocious, that not a Lebanese will forgive this massacre. There had been the ambulance attacked on Saturday, the sisters killed in Yohmor the day before, the 2-year-old girl decapitated by an Israeli missile four days ago. And earlier yesterday, the Israelis had slaughtered a family of 12 - the youngest was a four- day-old baby - when Israeli helicopter pilots fired missiles into their home. Shortly afterwards, three Israeli jets dropped bombs only 250 metres from a UN convoy on which I was travelling, blasting a house 30 feet into the air in front of my eyes. Travelling back to Beirut to file my report on the Qana massacre to the Independent last night, I found two Israeli gunboats firing at the civilian cars on the river bridge north of Sidon. Every foreign army comes to grief in Lebanon. The Sabra and Chatila massacre of Palestinians by Israel's militia allies in 1982 doomed Israel's 1982 invasion. Now the Israelis are stained again by the bloodbath at Qana, the scruffy little Lebanese hill town where the Lebanese believe Jesus turned water into wine. The Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres may now wish to end this war. But the Hizbollah are not likely to let him. Israel is back in the Lebanese quagmire. Nor will the Arab world forget yesterday'a terrible scenes. The blood of all the refugees ran quite literally in streams >from the shell-smashed UN compound restaurant in which the Shiite Muslims from the hill villages of southern Lebanon - who had heeded Israel's order to leave their homes - had pathetically sought shelter. Fijian and French soldiers heaved another group of dead - they lay with their arms tightly wrapped around each other - into blankets. A French UN trooper muttered oaths to himself as he opened a bag in which he was dropping feet, fingers, pieces of people's arms. And as we walked through this obscenity, a swarm of people burst into the compound. They had driven in wild convoys down from Tyre and began to pull the blankets off the mutilated corpses of their mothers and sons and daughters and to shriek "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great") and to threaten the UN troops. We had suddenly become not UN troops and journalists but Westerners, Israel's allies, an object of hatred and venom. One bearded man with fierce eyes stared at us, his face dark with fury. "You are Americans," he screamed at us. "Americans are dogs. You did this. Americans are dogs." President Bill Clinton has allied himself with Israel in its war against "terrorism" and the Lebanese, in their grief, had not forgotten this. Israel's official expression of sorrow was rubbing salt in their wounds. "I would like to be made into a bomb and blow myself up amid the Israelis," one old man said. As for the Hizbollah, which has repeatedly promised that Israelis will pay for their killing of Lebanese civilians, its revenge cannot be long in coming. Operation Grapes of Wrath may then turn out then to be all too aptly named. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 00:15:01 PDT 1996 Article: 18625 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: israel on holocaust rampage Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:02:59 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 399 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2p7j$1ii6@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Saturday, 27-Apr-96 11:13 AM Subject: READ THIS YOU FUCKING MEDIA WHORES Content-Length: 26702 The subject line is for the media whores, not the distribution list. Everytime one of KKKlinton's backers is assassinated, i.e., Ron Brown being the most recent, KKKlinton throws money at Israel. Just a coincidence? AEN NEWS This email was received directly from Beirut. It is a compelling testimony of someone living through the horrors currently being inflicted upon our sisters and brothers there. I will include her warning, though, about the language in the post: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 18 Apr 1996 22:51:00 -0200 From: Aboudi@BIGnet.com.lb Subject: Down but not out! Hi. Firas is in the states. I will hopefully be in the states around the 1st week of July to join a research program. This is the situation: We are ready to evacuate immediately, I think!!! Things here are NOT improving. I do not know how much longer we can communicate - be it thru e-mail or phone. The Israeli's are shelling nothing but civilian targets. They hit not a single Hizbullah target. The sea ports are closed because of Israeli gunboats warding off ships!! They shot three of the power stations, rendering one of them totally nonfunctional. According to the new, one of them has attained damages worth 3 millions USDs. They are also shooting the telephone switchboards. They have gunned one of the main ones, and off and on they have destroyed major telephone cables around the country. I know that at least 18000 phones are out! Things are really NOT optimistic here. Schools have been shut down for at least one more week. I do not know if my uni will open. Please distribute this message please to as many people as you can; it is important that they see the truth. Today..... they attacked a UN center. It was a bomb shelter. They massacred every soul in there - mentally and physically. Hundreds of armless, helpless, hungry people were hiding in two tents. The Israeli's attacked the base. People started fleeing into the shelters, but they did not make it on time. The seen was a giagantic shish kabab scene!!!! Bodies were charcoaled.... I actually saw some guts, intestines, and other gross things..... it was an open anatomy class, for heaven's sake.... my girlfriend burst into tears... so did my mom!!! Who is the attacker here? A motherfucker behind a tank or a child who is just looking for food and shelter???? The folks from the south are all packed in schools in Beirut. Things are not sanitary at all. Diseases are beginning to spread! For God's sake who is the aggressor!?!?!? They showed us how the Israelis take a moment of silence for the massacre of the Jews in Germany!!!!!! What is this.... some kind of avenge?!?! We have to pay for it??!? Half a million people were forced out of their homes because their presence would threaten the heavily armed army of Israel..... the tanks are vulnerable to an attack from young children!!! Children are lethal...... we should abolish them....eh?????? Man... the situation is not improving. What is the world after... destroying Lebanon's new infrastructure because it could beat Israel's economy in a few years???? Is it after taking away the Arab's arsenal and money?? If Syria were to move, the American Air Force and the Israeli Air Force would take it as an attack and a breach of peace!!!!!!! They take our land.... and call us aggressors. They say that if we stop attacking them with a few guerilla soldiers, they would leave..... is this preposterous or what??? You occupy my house and I ask to leave, but you refuse to because I am hitting you?!??!? Well..... leave my house and I will not attack you. You just ought to see the brains of 3 day old splattered all over the blanket!!! His head lost its top!!!! Literally!!!! The 3-day-old had no top to his head.... his brains were over the blanker and on the floor. They wiped out 2 families of 12 people in one building...... their argument.... Hizbullah fired a Katyusha from that area..... bullshit!!!! Since the beginning of the attacks, the Israeli army has hit nothing.... NOTHING... but civilian targets..... An ambulance with 4 children and old folks was hit by a rocket from a plane.... their excuse: The driver was Hizbullah..... now give me a break!!!!!! WE ARE THE KILLERS....WE OWN THE HI-TECH STUFF..... For God's sake, we do not even have an airforce!!!!!!! We have one bloody fucked up jet.... just one!!!!!!!!! Tomorrow morning I am taking my car to all the near grocery stores to buy as much baby milk as the car can carry and distribute it all to the schools that have lactating children or children in need of milk. Our academic year has been disrupted because the southerners have been placed in schools. If anyone wants the true scenes, please contact me and I will do my best to send a copy. I have two INTERNET addresses: ziad-g@beirut.com aboudi@bignet.com.lb I am now using the aboudi one. Please send your messages to both. Take care. Aboudi Posted mike_burns@margeotes.com Thu Apr 25 18:13:07 1996 Mail*Link(r) SMTP FWD>An Antidote 2: Other news on the Lebanon attacks An Antidote 2: Other news on the Lebanon attacks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REALITY BITES AT QANA By Robert Fisk The Independent' - 4/22/96 Qana, Southern Lebanon Herve de Charette's face was as white as death. The French Foreign Minister, neatly clad in blue suit and tie, had gingerly walked through the scene of last week's massacre at the UN's compound, nodding diplomatically as the UN's Fijian commander described the 12 minutes in which Israeli shells slaughtered up to 120 refugees, the sliced-up corpses that his soldiers were forced to pick up, the difficulty in identifying parts of the children who had been torn to pieces. Mr de Charette listened with distaste. But then he was confronted by a survivor. Fawzaya Zrir, a small, frail woman in a scarf, simply walked up to the French Foreign Minister and began talking to him with an odd mixture of affection and anger. "For us, France is our mother and God is our Father," she said in a flight of rhetoric that might have been written by the Quai d'Orsay public relations men, who beamed happily at this fortunate encounter. Then things began to go wrong. "We have lived through hell," Mrs Zrir continued. "The people were chopped into pieces by the Israeli bombs. They bleed, these people. You should have seen the heads." At the French foreign minister's right, a Lebanese softly translated the woman's dreadful words. The PR men began to look uneasy. "We have lived here 40 years and now we are treated like animals," the woman cried. "Do you know what the dogs did at night after the killings? They were hungry and I saw them in the ruins eating fingers and pieces of our people." Mr de Charette stared at her as if he had seen a ghost. This had clearly not been part of the programme, a schedule that was supposed to have whisked the foreign minister from a light lunch at UN headquarters in Naqqoura to a photo-opportunity on the roof of the wrecked UN battalion HQ, a three-minutes press conference to give the impression of openness and a swift drive back to the coast and a helicopter to Beirut - everything, in fact, that would enhance France's much-trumpeted love for Lebanon. Reality had very definitely not been part of the programme. A UN soldier was quite blunt about it. "This place is going to be turned into one of those awful pilgrimage sites for the great and the good," he muttered. "Boutros-Ghali sent his emissaries today to express their horror. But they'll do no more than they did after Srebrenica. They'll tut-tut and shrug it off. and they won#018#t even have the guts to condemn Israel even now - for this wickedness." And indeed, the UN Secretary-General did send General Frank Van Kappen of the Netherlands army - not, perhaps, a happy choice after the Dutch army's disgrace at Srebrenica and he duly marched round the site of the worst carnage, asking how many rounds landed, where the Katyusha missiles were fired from and whether he could be shown this site to discover if any Israeli shells bad fallen there. He would be meeting with General Amnon lipkin Shahak, the Israeli chief of staff, he said. Yes, he would be asking to meet the soldiers who fired the fatal artillery rounds - "fat chance of that," another UN soldier said as he listened to all this - and with that, Van Kappen, an immense figure in his steel flak jacket and huge helmet clanked out of the compound with a colonel from the Royal Engineers. Mr de Charette was even more gentle of spirit. What had happened on Thursday was 'unfortunate", an event for which France wished to show its sympathy for the Lebanese. So how did it rank in the scale of civilian atrocities? How did it rank, for example, beside the Sarajevo market massacre? "Frankly," the Foreign Minister replied sharply, "I have not had an opportunity to make categories of unhappiness we have to work to do is to make it impossible for this to happen in the future in Lebanon." And so any all of us. Did he believe Israel had given sufficient explanation of the massacre? "I hear there is an inquiry we have to await the result." The problem, however is that neither America nor Europe are going to condemn a country which pounded refugees of Qana with 155mm shells for 12 minutes; and such condemnation is about the only palliative that the Lebanese might accept for the moment. And you can see their point. On the coast road back to Beirut last night there were burning cars, civilians deliberately targeted by Israeli warships north of Sidon, three of whom had been badly wounded. Had this being a Syrian warship shelling Israeli civilians on the Haifa-Tel Aviv road, of course, Mr Clinton himself would have deplored -rightly- an act of "international terrorism". But not a word of criticism about this scandalous targeting of Lebanese civilians was uttered by the foreign ministers of America, Russia, France and Italy as they sought to bring an end to an apparently unstoppable war. Forwarded by: MID-EAST REALITIES News, Information, & Analysis that Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Do Not Want You To Know! To receive MER regularly message to MIDDLEEAST@aol.com with the words "Send MER". ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, Apr 18, 1996 7:54 PM EDT Posted: JCOME Subj: JCOME Condemns Israeli Policies Toward Lebanese & Palestinians - Press Release Jewish Committee On The Middle East P.O. Box 18367 - Washington, D.C. 20036 (202) 362-JCOME (362-5266) Fax: (202) 362-6965 Email:JCOME@aol.com The only national organization led by American Jews advocating a sovereign, independent and truly democratic Palestinian State in all of the occupied territories with capital in Jerusalem J C O M E P r e s s R e l e a s e - 4/18/96 For press spokesperson contact (202) 362-5266, Ext 278, 24-hours. JCOME condemns Israeli actions in Lebanon. Furthermore JCOME believes the Israelis are involved in a gross campaign of disinformation and deception regarding their actual policies and motives, both in regard to the Palestinians as well as in Lebanon. This afternoon the Israeli Army Chief of Staff said there have been "no mistakes on Israel's part" and Prime Minister Shimon Peres blamed Lebanon and Hizballah for what Israel is doing claiming Israel's policies of gross collective punishment are justifiable. These Israeli attitudes, coupled with Israeli policies are totally unacceptable. Furthermore, the complicity of the United States government, especially the Clinton Administration, in arming and encouraging the Israelis should be of growing concern to all Americans. Just yesterday MID-EAST REALITIES sent out the information contained on which has appeared in the British press outlining the cynical Israeli policy of targetting civilians and devastating Lebanon -- and this was all published prior to today's tragic developements. It should not be forgotten that Hizballah was created in the aftermath of Israel's terrible destruction of Lebanon in 1982 -- during which tens of thousands of people were killed and terrible massacres comparable to war crimes occurred with clear Israeli complicity and knowledge. Israel's occupation of parts of Lebanon ever since has created the conditions for Hizballah's growth and support in opposing Israel's occupation. JCOME believes Israel should immediately suspend all military operations in Lebanon and should immediately agree to fully withdraw from all Lebanese territory as a precondition for serious negotiations with Lebanon, Syria, and Hizballah. JCOME further believes that Israel should stop its policies of attempting to put Palestinians on reservations in the name of peace and publicly accept Palestinian Statehood in all the areas of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem. # # # # Since 1988 JCOME has supported full Palestinian Statehood in all of the territories occupied by Israel including East Jerusalem, and full Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon to the recognized international border. JCOME helps produce and distribute the unique weekly TV Program "Mid- East Realities" showing on all cable systems in the Washington area and regular MER information on the Internet. JCOME Advisory Committee: Prof. Jane Adas; Rutgers Univ.; Prof. Alex Alland, Columbia University; Prof. Michael Astour, Univ. of Southern Il.; Prof. Howard Baumgartel, Emeritus Univ. of Kansas; Prof. Charles Black, Emeritus Yale Univ Law School; Mark Bruzonsky; writer and lawyer; Former Washington Representative, World Jewish Congress; Prof. Noam Chomsky, M.I.T.; Mark Dow, Miami; Prof. Richard Falk, Princeton Univ.; Prof. Sherna Gluck, CA State Univ (Long Beach); Prof. Clement Henry, Univ. Of TX; Prof. Herbert Hill, Univ of WI (Madison); Prof. Elie Katz; Sonoma State Univ; Prof. George Kent, Univ. Of Hawaii; Jeremy Levin, Former CNN Beirut Bureau Chief and hostage; Prof. Seymour Melman, Columbia Univ.; Henry Schwarzschild, New York; Prof. Herbert Schiller, Univ. of CA (San Diego); Prof. J. David Singer, Univ of MI (Ann Arbor); Ms. Shifra Stern, New York. With Jewish Professors at over 175 Universities and supporters of all backgrounds nationwide. ________________________________________________ From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 00:15:02 PDT 1996 Article: 18626 of alt.politics.nationalism.white Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white Subject: kkkkill civilians Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:03:39 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 96 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2p8r$1l3a@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Thu, Apr 25, 1996 1:13 PM EDT Two articles by Robert Fisk published in THE INDEPENDENT in London: MASSACRE IN SANCTUARY; EYEWITNESS By Robert Fisk The Independent 4/19/96, page 1 Qana, southern Lebanon - It was a massacre. Not since Sabra and Chatila had I seen the innocent slaughtered like this. The Lebanese refugee women and children and men lay in heaps, their hands or arms or legs missing, beheaded or disembowelled. There were well over a hundred of them. A baby lay without a head. The Israeli shells had scythed through them as they lay in the United Nations shelter, believing that they were safe under the world's protection. Like the Muslims of Srebrenica, the Muslims of Qana were wrong. In front of a burning building of the UN's Fijian battalion headquarters, a girl held a corpse in her arms, the body of a grey- haired man whose eyes were staring at her, and she rocked the corpse back and forth in her arms, keening and weeping and crying the same words over and over: "My father, my father." A Fijian UN soldier stood amid a sea of bodies and, without saying a word, held aloft the body of a headless child. "The Israelis have just told us they'll stop shelling the area," a UN soldier said, shaking with anger. "Are we supposed to thank them?" In the remains of a burning building - the conference room of the Fijian UN headquarters - a pile of corpses was burning. The roof had crashed in flames onto their bodies, cremating them in front of my eyes. When I walked towards them, I slipped on a human hand... Israel's slaughter of civilians in this terrible 10-day offensive - 206 by last night - has been so cavalier, so ferocious, that not a Lebanese will forgive this massacre. There had been the ambulance attacked on Saturday, the sisters killed in Yohmor the day before, the 2-year-old girl decapitated by an Israeli missile four days ago. And earlier yesterday, the Israelis had slaughtered a family of 12 - the youngest was a four- day-old baby - when Israeli helicopter pilots fired missiles into their home. Shortly afterwards, three Israeli jets dropped bombs only 250 metres from a UN convoy on which I was travelling, blasting a house 30 feet into the air in front of my eyes. Travelling back to Beirut to file my report on the Qana massacre to the Independent last night, I found two Israeli gunboats firing at the civilian cars on the river bridge north of Sidon. Every foreign army comes to grief in Lebanon. The Sabra and Chatila massacre of Palestinians by Israel's militia allies in 1982 doomed Israel's 1982 invasion. Now the Israelis are stained again by the bloodbath at Qana, the scruffy little Lebanese hill town where the Lebanese believe Jesus turned water into wine. The Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres may now wish to end this war. But the Hizbollah are not likely to let him. Israel is back in the Lebanese quagmire. Nor will the Arab world forget yesterday'a terrible scenes. The blood of all the refugees ran quite literally in streams >from the shell-smashed UN compound restaurant in which the Shiite Muslims from the hill villages of southern Lebanon - who had heeded Israel's order to leave their homes - had pathetically sought shelter. Fijian and French soldiers heaved another group of dead - they lay with their arms tightly wrapped around each other - into blankets. A French UN trooper muttered oaths to himself as he opened a bag in which he was dropping feet, fingers, pieces of people's arms. And as we walked through this obscenity, a swarm of people burst into the compound. They had driven in wild convoys down from Tyre and began to pull the blankets off the mutilated corpses of their mothers and sons and daughters and to shriek "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great") and to threaten the UN troops. We had suddenly become not UN troops and journalists but Westerners, Israel's allies, an object of hatred and venom. One bearded man with fierce eyes stared at us, his face dark with fury. "You are Americans," he screamed at us. "Americans are dogs. You did this. Americans are dogs." President Bill Clinton has allied himself with Israel in its war against "terrorism" and the Lebanese, in their grief, had not forgotten this. Israel's official expression of sorrow was rubbing salt in their wounds. "I would like to be made into a bomb and blow myself up amid the Israelis," one old man said. As for the Hizbollah, which has repeatedly promised that Israelis will pay for their killing of Lebanese civilians, its revenge cannot be long in coming. Operation Grapes of Wrath may then turn out then to be all too aptly named. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 00:18:37 PDT 1996 Article: 27051 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: israel wants YOU Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:04:31 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 96 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2paf$1r5g@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Thu, Apr 25, 1996 1:13 PM EDT Two articles by Robert Fisk published in THE INDEPENDENT in London: MASSACRE IN SANCTUARY; EYEWITNESS By Robert Fisk The Independent 4/19/96, page 1 Qana, southern Lebanon - It was a massacre. Not since Sabra and Chatila had I seen the innocent slaughtered like this. The Lebanese refugee women and children and men lay in heaps, their hands or arms or legs missing, beheaded or disembowelled. There were well over a hundred of them. A baby lay without a head. The Israeli shells had scythed through them as they lay in the United Nations shelter, believing that they were safe under the world's protection. Like the Muslims of Srebrenica, the Muslims of Qana were wrong. In front of a burning building of the UN's Fijian battalion headquarters, a girl held a corpse in her arms, the body of a grey- haired man whose eyes were staring at her, and she rocked the corpse back and forth in her arms, keening and weeping and crying the same words over and over: "My father, my father." A Fijian UN soldier stood amid a sea of bodies and, without saying a word, held aloft the body of a headless child. "The Israelis have just told us they'll stop shelling the area," a UN soldier said, shaking with anger. "Are we supposed to thank them?" In the remains of a burning building - the conference room of the Fijian UN headquarters - a pile of corpses was burning. The roof had crashed in flames onto their bodies, cremating them in front of my eyes. When I walked towards them, I slipped on a human hand... Israel's slaughter of civilians in this terrible 10-day offensive - 206 by last night - has been so cavalier, so ferocious, that not a Lebanese will forgive this massacre. There had been the ambulance attacked on Saturday, the sisters killed in Yohmor the day before, the 2-year-old girl decapitated by an Israeli missile four days ago. And earlier yesterday, the Israelis had slaughtered a family of 12 - the youngest was a four- day-old baby - when Israeli helicopter pilots fired missiles into their home. Shortly afterwards, three Israeli jets dropped bombs only 250 metres from a UN convoy on which I was travelling, blasting a house 30 feet into the air in front of my eyes. Travelling back to Beirut to file my report on the Qana massacre to the Independent last night, I found two Israeli gunboats firing at the civilian cars on the river bridge north of Sidon. Every foreign army comes to grief in Lebanon. The Sabra and Chatila massacre of Palestinians by Israel's militia allies in 1982 doomed Israel's 1982 invasion. Now the Israelis are stained again by the bloodbath at Qana, the scruffy little Lebanese hill town where the Lebanese believe Jesus turned water into wine. The Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres may now wish to end this war. But the Hizbollah are not likely to let him. Israel is back in the Lebanese quagmire. Nor will the Arab world forget yesterday'a terrible scenes. The blood of all the refugees ran quite literally in streams >from the shell-smashed UN compound restaurant in which the Shiite Muslims from the hill villages of southern Lebanon - who had heeded Israel's order to leave their homes - had pathetically sought shelter. Fijian and French soldiers heaved another group of dead - they lay with their arms tightly wrapped around each other - into blankets. A French UN trooper muttered oaths to himself as he opened a bag in which he was dropping feet, fingers, pieces of people's arms. And as we walked through this obscenity, a swarm of people burst into the compound. They had driven in wild convoys down from Tyre and began to pull the blankets off the mutilated corpses of their mothers and sons and daughters and to shriek "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great") and to threaten the UN troops. We had suddenly become not UN troops and journalists but Westerners, Israel's allies, an object of hatred and venom. One bearded man with fierce eyes stared at us, his face dark with fury. "You are Americans," he screamed at us. "Americans are dogs. You did this. Americans are dogs." President Bill Clinton has allied himself with Israel in its war against "terrorism" and the Lebanese, in their grief, had not forgotten this. Israel's official expression of sorrow was rubbing salt in their wounds. "I would like to be made into a bomb and blow myself up amid the Israelis," one old man said. As for the Hizbollah, which has repeatedly promised that Israelis will pay for their killing of Lebanese civilians, its revenge cannot be long in coming. Operation Grapes of Wrath may then turn out then to be all too aptly named. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 00:18:37 PDT 1996 Article: 27058 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!imci3!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: accidental death & D'Amato wants blood Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:23:15 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2qdj$nf2@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 04/29/96 New York Sen. Alfonse D'Amato today called for the federal govt' to extradite the mastermind of the Achille Lauro hijacking to face trial in the U.S. He called Abul Abbas's recent apology for the accidental death of the cruise ship passenger leon KLINGHOFFER an "outrage", and said the Justice Department should seek to punish Abbas. KLINGHOFFER rolled overboard when the brake on his wheelchair failed during an onboard party, er... or was it a boarding party?? <:) From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 00:18:38 PDT 1996 Article: 27059 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: one Abbas worth 6,000,000 j*ws Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:25:13 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 22 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2qh9$pnu@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 04/29/96 New York Sen. Alfonse D'Amato today called for the federal govt' to extradite the alleged mastermind of the Achille Lauro "hijacking" to face trial in the U.S. He called Abul Abbas's recent apology for the accidental death of the cruise ship passenger leon KLINGHOFFER an "outrage", and said the Justice Department should seek to punish Abbas. KLINGHOFFER rolled overboard when the brake on his wheelchair failed during an onboard party, er... or was it a boarding party?? It has never occurred to D'Amato that we don't own the world. <:) From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 00:18:39 PDT 1996 Article: 27120 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: Beirut Holocaust Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:05:23 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 399 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2pc3$1dti@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Saturday, 27-Apr-96 11:13 AM Subject: READ THIS YOU FUCKING MEDIA WHORES Content-Length: 26702 The subject line is for the media whores, not the distribution list. Everytime one of KKKlinton's backers is assassinated, i.e., Ron Brown being the most recent, KKKlinton throws money at Israel. Just a coincidence? AEN NEWS This email was received directly from Beirut. It is a compelling testimony of someone living through the horrors currently being inflicted upon our sisters and brothers there. I will include her warning, though, about the language in the post: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 18 Apr 1996 22:51:00 -0200 From: Aboudi@BIGnet.com.lb Subject: Down but not out! Hi. Firas is in the states. I will hopefully be in the states around the 1st week of July to join a research program. This is the situation: We are ready to evacuate immediately, I think!!! Things here are NOT improving. I do not know how much longer we can communicate - be it thru e-mail or phone. The Israeli's are shelling nothing but civilian targets. They hit not a single Hizbullah target. The sea ports are closed because of Israeli gunboats warding off ships!! They shot three of the power stations, rendering one of them totally nonfunctional. According to the new, one of them has attained damages worth 3 millions USDs. They are also shooting the telephone switchboards. They have gunned one of the main ones, and off and on they have destroyed major telephone cables around the country. I know that at least 18000 phones are out! Things are really NOT optimistic here. Schools have been shut down for at least one more week. I do not know if my uni will open. Please distribute this message please to as many people as you can; it is important that they see the truth. Today..... they attacked a UN center. It was a bomb shelter. They massacred every soul in there - mentally and physically. Hundreds of armless, helpless, hungry people were hiding in two tents. The Israeli's attacked the base. People started fleeing into the shelters, but they did not make it on time. The seen was a giagantic shish kabab scene!!!! Bodies were charcoaled.... I actually saw some guts, intestines, and other gross things..... it was an open anatomy class, for heaven's sake.... my girlfriend burst into tears... so did my mom!!! Who is the attacker here? A motherfucker behind a tank or a child who is just looking for food and shelter???? The folks from the south are all packed in schools in Beirut. Things are not sanitary at all. Diseases are beginning to spread! For God's sake who is the aggressor!?!?!? They showed us how the Israelis take a moment of silence for the massacre of the Jews in Germany!!!!!! What is this.... some kind of avenge?!?! We have to pay for it??!? Half a million people were forced out of their homes because their presence would threaten the heavily armed army of Israel..... the tanks are vulnerable to an attack from young children!!! Children are lethal...... we should abolish them....eh?????? Man... the situation is not improving. What is the world after... destroying Lebanon's new infrastructure because it could beat Israel's economy in a few years???? Is it after taking away the Arab's arsenal and money?? If Syria were to move, the American Air Force and the Israeli Air Force would take it as an attack and a breach of peace!!!!!!! They take our land.... and call us aggressors. They say that if we stop attacking them with a few guerilla soldiers, they would leave..... is this preposterous or what??? You occupy my house and I ask to leave, but you refuse to because I am hitting you?!??!? Well..... leave my house and I will not attack you. You just ought to see the brains of 3 day old splattered all over the blanket!!! His head lost its top!!!! Literally!!!! The 3-day-old had no top to his head.... his brains were over the blanker and on the floor. They wiped out 2 families of 12 people in one building...... their argument.... Hizbullah fired a Katyusha from that area..... bullshit!!!! Since the beginning of the attacks, the Israeli army has hit nothing.... NOTHING... but civilian targets..... An ambulance with 4 children and old folks was hit by a rocket from a plane.... their excuse: The driver was Hizbullah..... now give me a break!!!!!! WE ARE THE KILLERS....WE OWN THE HI-TECH STUFF..... For God's sake, we do not even have an airforce!!!!!!! We have one bloody fucked up jet.... just one!!!!!!!!! Tomorrow morning I am taking my car to all the near grocery stores to buy as much baby milk as the car can carry and distribute it all to the schools that have lactating children or children in need of milk. Our academic year has been disrupted because the southerners have been placed in schools. If anyone wants the true scenes, please contact me and I will do my best to send a copy. I have two INTERNET addresses: ziad-g@beirut.com aboudi@bignet.com.lb I am now using the aboudi one. Please send your messages to both. Take care. Aboudi Posted mike_burns@margeotes.com Thu Apr 25 18:13:07 1996 Mail*Link(r) SMTP FWD>An Antidote 2: Other news on the Lebanon attacks An Antidote 2: Other news on the Lebanon attacks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REALITY BITES AT QANA By Robert Fisk The Independent' - 4/22/96 Qana, Southern Lebanon Herve de Charette's face was as white as death. The French Foreign Minister, neatly clad in blue suit and tie, had gingerly walked through the scene of last week's massacre at the UN's compound, nodding diplomatically as the UN's Fijian commander described the 12 minutes in which Israeli shells slaughtered up to 120 refugees, the sliced-up corpses that his soldiers were forced to pick up, the difficulty in identifying parts of the children who had been torn to pieces. Mr de Charette listened with distaste. But then he was confronted by a survivor. Fawzaya Zrir, a small, frail woman in a scarf, simply walked up to the French Foreign Minister and began talking to him with an odd mixture of affection and anger. "For us, France is our mother and God is our Father," she said in a flight of rhetoric that might have been written by the Quai d'Orsay public relations men, who beamed happily at this fortunate encounter. Then things began to go wrong. "We have lived through hell," Mrs Zrir continued. "The people were chopped into pieces by the Israeli bombs. They bleed, these people. You should have seen the heads." At the French foreign minister's right, a Lebanese softly translated the woman's dreadful words. The PR men began to look uneasy. "We have lived here 40 years and now we are treated like animals," the woman cried. "Do you know what the dogs did at night after the killings? They were hungry and I saw them in the ruins eating fingers and pieces of our people." Mr de Charette stared at her as if he had seen a ghost. This had clearly not been part of the programme, a schedule that was supposed to have whisked the foreign minister from a light lunch at UN headquarters in Naqqoura to a photo-opportunity on the roof of the wrecked UN battalion HQ, a three-minutes press conference to give the impression of openness and a swift drive back to the coast and a helicopter to Beirut - everything, in fact, that would enhance France's much-trumpeted love for Lebanon. Reality had very definitely not been part of the programme. A UN soldier was quite blunt about it. "This place is going to be turned into one of those awful pilgrimage sites for the great and the good," he muttered. "Boutros-Ghali sent his emissaries today to express their horror. But they'll do no more than they did after Srebrenica. They'll tut-tut and shrug it off. and they won#018#t even have the guts to condemn Israel even now - for this wickedness." And indeed, the UN Secretary-General did send General Frank Van Kappen of the Netherlands army - not, perhaps, a happy choice after the Dutch army's disgrace at Srebrenica and he duly marched round the site of the worst carnage, asking how many rounds landed, where the Katyusha missiles were fired from and whether he could be shown this site to discover if any Israeli shells bad fallen there. He would be meeting with General Amnon lipkin Shahak, the Israeli chief of staff, he said. Yes, he would be asking to meet the soldiers who fired the fatal artillery rounds - "fat chance of that," another UN soldier said as he listened to all this - and with that, Van Kappen, an immense figure in his steel flak jacket and huge helmet clanked out of the compound with a colonel from the Royal Engineers. Mr de Charette was even more gentle of spirit. What had happened on Thursday was 'unfortunate", an event for which France wished to show its sympathy for the Lebanese. So how did it rank in the scale of civilian atrocities? How did it rank, for example, beside the Sarajevo market massacre? "Frankly," the Foreign Minister replied sharply, "I have not had an opportunity to make categories of unhappiness we have to work to do is to make it impossible for this to happen in the future in Lebanon." And so any all of us. Did he believe Israel had given sufficient explanation of the massacre? "I hear there is an inquiry we have to await the result." The problem, however is that neither America nor Europe are going to condemn a country which pounded refugees of Qana with 155mm shells for 12 minutes; and such condemnation is about the only palliative that the Lebanese might accept for the moment. And you can see their point. On the coast road back to Beirut last night there were burning cars, civilians deliberately targeted by Israeli warships north of Sidon, three of whom had been badly wounded. Had this being a Syrian warship shelling Israeli civilians on the Haifa-Tel Aviv road, of course, Mr Clinton himself would have deplored -rightly- an act of "international terrorism". But not a word of criticism about this scandalous targeting of Lebanese civilians was uttered by the foreign ministers of America, Russia, France and Italy as they sought to bring an end to an apparently unstoppable war. Forwarded by: MID-EAST REALITIES News, Information, & Analysis that Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Do Not Want You To Know! To receive MER regularly message to MIDDLEEAST@aol.com with the words "Send MER". ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, Apr 18, 1996 7:54 PM EDT Posted: JCOME Subj: JCOME Condemns Israeli Policies Toward Lebanese & Palestinians - Press Release Jewish Committee On The Middle East P.O. Box 18367 - Washington, D.C. 20036 (202) 362-JCOME (362-5266) Fax: (202) 362-6965 Email:JCOME@aol.com The only national organization led by American Jews advocating a sovereign, independent and truly democratic Palestinian State in all of the occupied territories with capital in Jerusalem J C O M E P r e s s R e l e a s e - 4/18/96 For press spokesperson contact (202) 362-5266, Ext 278, 24-hours. JCOME condemns Israeli actions in Lebanon. Furthermore JCOME believes the Israelis are involved in a gross campaign of disinformation and deception regarding their actual policies and motives, both in regard to the Palestinians as well as in Lebanon. This afternoon the Israeli Army Chief of Staff said there have been "no mistakes on Israel's part" and Prime Minister Shimon Peres blamed Lebanon and Hizballah for what Israel is doing claiming Israel's policies of gross collective punishment are justifiable. These Israeli attitudes, coupled with Israeli policies are totally unacceptable. Furthermore, the complicity of the United States government, especially the Clinton Administration, in arming and encouraging the Israelis should be of growing concern to all Americans. Just yesterday MID-EAST REALITIES sent out the information contained on which has appeared in the British press outlining the cynical Israeli policy of targetting civilians and devastating Lebanon -- and this was all published prior to today's tragic developements. It should not be forgotten that Hizballah was created in the aftermath of Israel's terrible destruction of Lebanon in 1982 -- during which tens of thousands of people were killed and terrible massacres comparable to war crimes occurred with clear Israeli complicity and knowledge. Israel's occupation of parts of Lebanon ever since has created the conditions for Hizballah's growth and support in opposing Israel's occupation. JCOME believes Israel should immediately suspend all military operations in Lebanon and should immediately agree to fully withdraw from all Lebanese territory as a precondition for serious negotiations with Lebanon, Syria, and Hizballah. JCOME further believes that Israel should stop its policies of attempting to put Palestinians on reservations in the name of peace and publicly accept Palestinian Statehood in all the areas of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem. # # # # Since 1988 JCOME has supported full Palestinian Statehood in all of the territories occupied by Israel including East Jerusalem, and full Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon to the recognized international border. JCOME helps produce and distribute the unique weekly TV Program "Mid- East Realities" showing on all cable systems in the Washington area and regular MER information on the Internet. 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With Jewish Professors at over 175 Universities and supporters of all backgrounds nationwide. ________________________________________________ From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 00:18:40 PDT 1996 Article: 27123 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: Re: The Turner Diaries Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:31:21 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2qsp$1k9a@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4lmk2h$hcd@news1.panix.com> <4lmpqj$f9@freenet-news.carleton.ca> <4ltu2c$891@news1.panix.com> <4m00f1$ccf@umbc9.umbc.edu> <4m22e5$auv@freenet-news.carleton.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >> >> By being rude you will not prove anything. At least to me. > >Rudeness is stock-in-trade for jews. > >Les It's called A R R O G A N C E, for which they will die 6,000,000 deaths. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 07:57:32 PDT 1996 Article: 27051 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: israel wants YOU Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:04:31 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 96 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2paf$1r5g@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Thu, Apr 25, 1996 1:13 PM EDT Two articles by Robert Fisk published in THE INDEPENDENT in London: MASSACRE IN SANCTUARY; EYEWITNESS By Robert Fisk The Independent 4/19/96, page 1 Qana, southern Lebanon - It was a massacre. Not since Sabra and Chatila had I seen the innocent slaughtered like this. The Lebanese refugee women and children and men lay in heaps, their hands or arms or legs missing, beheaded or disembowelled. There were well over a hundred of them. A baby lay without a head. The Israeli shells had scythed through them as they lay in the United Nations shelter, believing that they were safe under the world's protection. Like the Muslims of Srebrenica, the Muslims of Qana were wrong. In front of a burning building of the UN's Fijian battalion headquarters, a girl held a corpse in her arms, the body of a grey- haired man whose eyes were staring at her, and she rocked the corpse back and forth in her arms, keening and weeping and crying the same words over and over: "My father, my father." A Fijian UN soldier stood amid a sea of bodies and, without saying a word, held aloft the body of a headless child. "The Israelis have just told us they'll stop shelling the area," a UN soldier said, shaking with anger. "Are we supposed to thank them?" In the remains of a burning building - the conference room of the Fijian UN headquarters - a pile of corpses was burning. The roof had crashed in flames onto their bodies, cremating them in front of my eyes. When I walked towards them, I slipped on a human hand... Israel's slaughter of civilians in this terrible 10-day offensive - 206 by last night - has been so cavalier, so ferocious, that not a Lebanese will forgive this massacre. There had been the ambulance attacked on Saturday, the sisters killed in Yohmor the day before, the 2-year-old girl decapitated by an Israeli missile four days ago. And earlier yesterday, the Israelis had slaughtered a family of 12 - the youngest was a four- day-old baby - when Israeli helicopter pilots fired missiles into their home. Shortly afterwards, three Israeli jets dropped bombs only 250 metres from a UN convoy on which I was travelling, blasting a house 30 feet into the air in front of my eyes. Travelling back to Beirut to file my report on the Qana massacre to the Independent last night, I found two Israeli gunboats firing at the civilian cars on the river bridge north of Sidon. Every foreign army comes to grief in Lebanon. The Sabra and Chatila massacre of Palestinians by Israel's militia allies in 1982 doomed Israel's 1982 invasion. Now the Israelis are stained again by the bloodbath at Qana, the scruffy little Lebanese hill town where the Lebanese believe Jesus turned water into wine. The Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres may now wish to end this war. But the Hizbollah are not likely to let him. Israel is back in the Lebanese quagmire. Nor will the Arab world forget yesterday'a terrible scenes. The blood of all the refugees ran quite literally in streams >from the shell-smashed UN compound restaurant in which the Shiite Muslims from the hill villages of southern Lebanon - who had heeded Israel's order to leave their homes - had pathetically sought shelter. Fijian and French soldiers heaved another group of dead - they lay with their arms tightly wrapped around each other - into blankets. A French UN trooper muttered oaths to himself as he opened a bag in which he was dropping feet, fingers, pieces of people's arms. And as we walked through this obscenity, a swarm of people burst into the compound. They had driven in wild convoys down from Tyre and began to pull the blankets off the mutilated corpses of their mothers and sons and daughters and to shriek "Allahu Akbar" (God is Great") and to threaten the UN troops. We had suddenly become not UN troops and journalists but Westerners, Israel's allies, an object of hatred and venom. One bearded man with fierce eyes stared at us, his face dark with fury. "You are Americans," he screamed at us. "Americans are dogs. You did this. Americans are dogs." President Bill Clinton has allied himself with Israel in its war against "terrorism" and the Lebanese, in their grief, had not forgotten this. Israel's official expression of sorrow was rubbing salt in their wounds. "I would like to be made into a bomb and blow myself up amid the Israelis," one old man said. As for the Hizbollah, which has repeatedly promised that Israelis will pay for their killing of Lebanese civilians, its revenge cannot be long in coming. Operation Grapes of Wrath may then turn out then to be all too aptly named. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 07:57:33 PDT 1996 Article: 27123 of alt.politics.white-power Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power Subject: Re: The Turner Diaries Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:31:21 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2qsp$1k9a@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4lmk2h$hcd@news1.panix.com> <4lmpqj$f9@freenet-news.carleton.ca> <4ltu2c$891@news1.panix.com> <4m00f1$ccf@umbc9.umbc.edu> <4m22e5$auv@freenet-news.carleton.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >> >> By being rude you will not prove anything. At least to me. > >Rudeness is stock-in-trade for jews. > >Les It's called A R R O G A N C E, for which they will die 6,000,000 deaths. From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 08:13:34 PDT 1996 Article: 45345 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Holocaust against Lebanese Date: 29 Apr 1996 15:56:50 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 399 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2os2$1dak@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Saturday, 27-Apr-96 11:13 AM Subject: READ THIS YOU FUCKING MEDIA WHORES Content-Length: 26702 The subject line is for the media whores, not the distribution list. Everytime one of KKKlinton's backers is assassinated, i.e., Ron Brown being the most recent, KKKlinton throws money at Israel. Just a coincidence? AEN NEWS This email was received directly from Beirut. It is a compelling testimony of someone living through the horrors currently being inflicted upon our sisters and brothers there. I will include her warning, though, about the language in the post: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 18 Apr 1996 22:51:00 -0200 From: Aboudi@BIGnet.com.lb Subject: Down but not out! Hi. Firas is in the states. I will hopefully be in the states around the 1st week of July to join a research program. This is the situation: We are ready to evacuate immediately, I think!!! Things here are NOT improving. I do not know how much longer we can communicate - be it thru e-mail or phone. The Israeli's are shelling nothing but civilian targets. They hit not a single Hizbullah target. The sea ports are closed because of Israeli gunboats warding off ships!! They shot three of the power stations, rendering one of them totally nonfunctional. According to the new, one of them has attained damages worth 3 millions USDs. They are also shooting the telephone switchboards. They have gunned one of the main ones, and off and on they have destroyed major telephone cables around the country. I know that at least 18000 phones are out! Things are really NOT optimistic here. Schools have been shut down for at least one more week. I do not know if my uni will open. Please distribute this message please to as many people as you can; it is important that they see the truth. Today..... they attacked a UN center. It was a bomb shelter. They massacred every soul in there - mentally and physically. Hundreds of armless, helpless, hungry people were hiding in two tents. The Israeli's attacked the base. People started fleeing into the shelters, but they did not make it on time. The seen was a giagantic shish kabab scene!!!! Bodies were charcoaled.... I actually saw some guts, intestines, and other gross things..... it was an open anatomy class, for heaven's sake.... my girlfriend burst into tears... so did my mom!!! Who is the attacker here? A motherfucker behind a tank or a child who is just looking for food and shelter???? The folks from the south are all packed in schools in Beirut. Things are not sanitary at all. Diseases are beginning to spread! For God's sake who is the aggressor!?!?!? They showed us how the Israelis take a moment of silence for the massacre of the Jews in Germany!!!!!! What is this.... some kind of avenge?!?! We have to pay for it??!? Half a million people were forced out of their homes because their presence would threaten the heavily armed army of Israel..... the tanks are vulnerable to an attack from young children!!! Children are lethal...... we should abolish them....eh?????? Man... the situation is not improving. What is the world after... destroying Lebanon's new infrastructure because it could beat Israel's economy in a few years???? Is it after taking away the Arab's arsenal and money?? If Syria were to move, the American Air Force and the Israeli Air Force would take it as an attack and a breach of peace!!!!!!! They take our land.... and call us aggressors. They say that if we stop attacking them with a few guerilla soldiers, they would leave..... is this preposterous or what??? You occupy my house and I ask to leave, but you refuse to because I am hitting you?!??!? Well..... leave my house and I will not attack you. You just ought to see the brains of 3 day old splattered all over the blanket!!! His head lost its top!!!! Literally!!!! The 3-day-old had no top to his head.... his brains were over the blanker and on the floor. They wiped out 2 families of 12 people in one building...... their argument.... Hizbullah fired a Katyusha from that area..... bullshit!!!! Since the beginning of the attacks, the Israeli army has hit nothing.... NOTHING... but civilian targets..... An ambulance with 4 children and old folks was hit by a rocket from a plane.... their excuse: The driver was Hizbullah..... now give me a break!!!!!! WE ARE THE KILLERS....WE OWN THE HI-TECH STUFF..... For God's sake, we do not even have an airforce!!!!!!! We have one bloody fucked up jet.... just one!!!!!!!!! Tomorrow morning I am taking my car to all the near grocery stores to buy as much baby milk as the car can carry and distribute it all to the schools that have lactating children or children in need of milk. Our academic year has been disrupted because the southerners have been placed in schools. If anyone wants the true scenes, please contact me and I will do my best to send a copy. I have two INTERNET addresses: ziad-g@beirut.com aboudi@bignet.com.lb I am now using the aboudi one. Please send your messages to both. Take care. Aboudi Posted mike_burns@margeotes.com Thu Apr 25 18:13:07 1996 Mail*Link(r) SMTP FWD>An Antidote 2: Other news on the Lebanon attacks An Antidote 2: Other news on the Lebanon attacks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ REALITY BITES AT QANA By Robert Fisk The Independent' - 4/22/96 Qana, Southern Lebanon Herve de Charette's face was as white as death. The French Foreign Minister, neatly clad in blue suit and tie, had gingerly walked through the scene of last week's massacre at the UN's compound, nodding diplomatically as the UN's Fijian commander described the 12 minutes in which Israeli shells slaughtered up to 120 refugees, the sliced-up corpses that his soldiers were forced to pick up, the difficulty in identifying parts of the children who had been torn to pieces. Mr de Charette listened with distaste. But then he was confronted by a survivor. Fawzaya Zrir, a small, frail woman in a scarf, simply walked up to the French Foreign Minister and began talking to him with an odd mixture of affection and anger. "For us, France is our mother and God is our Father," she said in a flight of rhetoric that might have been written by the Quai d'Orsay public relations men, who beamed happily at this fortunate encounter. Then things began to go wrong. "We have lived through hell," Mrs Zrir continued. "The people were chopped into pieces by the Israeli bombs. They bleed, these people. You should have seen the heads." At the French foreign minister's right, a Lebanese softly translated the woman's dreadful words. The PR men began to look uneasy. "We have lived here 40 years and now we are treated like animals," the woman cried. "Do you know what the dogs did at night after the killings? They were hungry and I saw them in the ruins eating fingers and pieces of our people." Mr de Charette stared at her as if he had seen a ghost. This had clearly not been part of the programme, a schedule that was supposed to have whisked the foreign minister from a light lunch at UN headquarters in Naqqoura to a photo-opportunity on the roof of the wrecked UN battalion HQ, a three-minutes press conference to give the impression of openness and a swift drive back to the coast and a helicopter to Beirut - everything, in fact, that would enhance France's much-trumpeted love for Lebanon. Reality had very definitely not been part of the programme. A UN soldier was quite blunt about it. "This place is going to be turned into one of those awful pilgrimage sites for the great and the good," he muttered. "Boutros-Ghali sent his emissaries today to express their horror. But they'll do no more than they did after Srebrenica. They'll tut-tut and shrug it off. and they won#018#t even have the guts to condemn Israel even now - for this wickedness." And indeed, the UN Secretary-General did send General Frank Van Kappen of the Netherlands army - not, perhaps, a happy choice after the Dutch army's disgrace at Srebrenica and he duly marched round the site of the worst carnage, asking how many rounds landed, where the Katyusha missiles were fired from and whether he could be shown this site to discover if any Israeli shells bad fallen there. He would be meeting with General Amnon lipkin Shahak, the Israeli chief of staff, he said. Yes, he would be asking to meet the soldiers who fired the fatal artillery rounds - "fat chance of that," another UN soldier said as he listened to all this - and with that, Van Kappen, an immense figure in his steel flak jacket and huge helmet clanked out of the compound with a colonel from the Royal Engineers. Mr de Charette was even more gentle of spirit. What had happened on Thursday was 'unfortunate", an event for which France wished to show its sympathy for the Lebanese. So how did it rank in the scale of civilian atrocities? How did it rank, for example, beside the Sarajevo market massacre? "Frankly," the Foreign Minister replied sharply, "I have not had an opportunity to make categories of unhappiness we have to work to do is to make it impossible for this to happen in the future in Lebanon." And so any all of us. Did he believe Israel had given sufficient explanation of the massacre? "I hear there is an inquiry we have to await the result." The problem, however is that neither America nor Europe are going to condemn a country which pounded refugees of Qana with 155mm shells for 12 minutes; and such condemnation is about the only palliative that the Lebanese might accept for the moment. And you can see their point. On the coast road back to Beirut last night there were burning cars, civilians deliberately targeted by Israeli warships north of Sidon, three of whom had been badly wounded. Had this being a Syrian warship shelling Israeli civilians on the Haifa-Tel Aviv road, of course, Mr Clinton himself would have deplored -rightly- an act of "international terrorism". But not a word of criticism about this scandalous targeting of Lebanese civilians was uttered by the foreign ministers of America, Russia, France and Italy as they sought to bring an end to an apparently unstoppable war. Forwarded by: MID-EAST REALITIES News, Information, & Analysis that Governments, Interest Groups, and the Corporate Media Do Not Want You To Know! To receive MER regularly message to MIDDLEEAST@aol.com with the words "Send MER". ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, Apr 18, 1996 7:54 PM EDT Posted: JCOME Subj: JCOME Condemns Israeli Policies Toward Lebanese & Palestinians - Press Release Jewish Committee On The Middle East P.O. Box 18367 - Washington, D.C. 20036 (202) 362-JCOME (362-5266) Fax: (202) 362-6965 Email:JCOME@aol.com The only national organization led by American Jews advocating a sovereign, independent and truly democratic Palestinian State in all of the occupied territories with capital in Jerusalem J C O M E P r e s s R e l e a s e - 4/18/96 For press spokesperson contact (202) 362-5266, Ext 278, 24-hours. JCOME condemns Israeli actions in Lebanon. Furthermore JCOME believes the Israelis are involved in a gross campaign of disinformation and deception regarding their actual policies and motives, both in regard to the Palestinians as well as in Lebanon. This afternoon the Israeli Army Chief of Staff said there have been "no mistakes on Israel's part" and Prime Minister Shimon Peres blamed Lebanon and Hizballah for what Israel is doing claiming Israel's policies of gross collective punishment are justifiable. These Israeli attitudes, coupled with Israeli policies are totally unacceptable. Furthermore, the complicity of the United States government, especially the Clinton Administration, in arming and encouraging the Israelis should be of growing concern to all Americans. Just yesterday MID-EAST REALITIES sent out the information contained on which has appeared in the British press outlining the cynical Israeli policy of targetting civilians and devastating Lebanon -- and this was all published prior to today's tragic developements. It should not be forgotten that Hizballah was created in the aftermath of Israel's terrible destruction of Lebanon in 1982 -- during which tens of thousands of people were killed and terrible massacres comparable to war crimes occurred with clear Israeli complicity and knowledge. Israel's occupation of parts of Lebanon ever since has created the conditions for Hizballah's growth and support in opposing Israel's occupation. JCOME believes Israel should immediately suspend all military operations in Lebanon and should immediately agree to fully withdraw from all Lebanese territory as a precondition for serious negotiations with Lebanon, Syria, and Hizballah. JCOME further believes that Israel should stop its policies of attempting to put Palestinians on reservations in the name of peace and publicly accept Palestinian Statehood in all the areas of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem. # # # # Since 1988 JCOME has supported full Palestinian Statehood in all of the territories occupied by Israel including East Jerusalem, and full Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon to the recognized international border. JCOME helps produce and distribute the unique weekly TV Program "Mid- East Realities" showing on all cable systems in the Washington area and regular MER information on the Internet. JCOME Advisory Committee: Prof. Jane Adas; Rutgers Univ.; Prof. Alex Alland, Columbia University; Prof. Michael Astour, Univ. of Southern Il.; Prof. Howard Baumgartel, Emeritus Univ. of Kansas; Prof. Charles Black, Emeritus Yale Univ Law School; Mark Bruzonsky; writer and lawyer; Former Washington Representative, World Jewish Congress; Prof. Noam Chomsky, M.I.T.; Mark Dow, Miami; Prof. Richard Falk, Princeton Univ.; Prof. Sherna Gluck, CA State Univ (Long Beach); Prof. Clement Henry, Univ. Of TX; Prof. Herbert Hill, Univ of WI (Madison); Prof. Elie Katz; Sonoma State Univ; Prof. George Kent, Univ. Of Hawaii; Jeremy Levin, Former CNN Beirut Bureau Chief and hostage; Prof. Seymour Melman, Columbia Univ.; Henry Schwarzschild, New York; Prof. Herbert Schiller, Univ. of CA (San Diego); Prof. J. David Singer, Univ of MI (Ann Arbor); Ms. Shifra Stern, New York. With Jewish Professors at over 175 Universities and supporters of all backgrounds nationwide. ________________________________________________ From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 08:13:35 PDT 1996 Article: 45346 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: first step in making it a felony Date: 29 Apr 1996 15:57:38 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 76 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2oti$rc4@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Friday, 26-Apr-96 03:10 PM From: Jim Floyd \ Internet: (jimfloyd@cneti.com) To: tribeca.com/~save-outgo \ PRODIGY: (EEGG87A) Subject: True believers JAMES FLOYD on 'true believers' Last week our noble House of Representatives did a very ignoble thing. They voted 240 to zero to condemn what they termed "Holocaust denial." This writer and his friend have made a game of attempting to find another dogma which could have brought about this same unanimous meeting of the minds. Could Congress have marched in joint step to any other drumbeat? Have they ever expressed unanimity regarding any other "true fact" of history, religion, political affairs, permissible foreplay, or even accord in financing life-altering projects such as the Lawrence Welk Museum? The answer is simply, no. One can only imagine the donnybrook if a chitling-sucking preacher demanded that this august body sanction a tenent of the majority religion. What a headline: "Reverent Billy Joe goes to Washington and forces Congress to condemn anti-feetwashers." Simon says, "Stand on one leg and repeat after me...." We are not allowed to deny - "Every J-w must reserve in his inner-being a zone of hate, healthy, virile hate, for the German and for what the German personifies." Elie Weasel, pg. 142, "Legends of Our Times" We are not allowed to deny - Mr. Arnold Friendman's testimony that the crematoria chimneys shot "fourteen foot flames" into the air over Auschwitz, and that one could tell from the yellow smoke that they (the Germans) were gassing/burning skinny Polish J-ws. When the smoke changed to blue, they knew that these were fat Hungarian J-ws. We are not allowed to deny - At Babi Yar, near Kiev in the Ukraine, the Germans gunned-down an unspecified number of J-ws. "Eyewitnesses say that for months after the killings, the ground continued to spurt geysers of blood into the air." Elie Weasel, pg. 48, "The J-ws of Silence." And again - "For month after month, the ground never stopped trembling; and, from time to time, geysers of blood spurted from it." Weasel, "Paroles d'etranger", pg. 86. "THE PURE AND SIMPLE TRUTH IS RARELY PURE AND NEVER SIMPLE." - OSCAR WILDE - James Floyd ********************** From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 08:13:36 PDT 1996 Article: 45496 of alt.conspiracy Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Unabomber Jokes on Letterman Date: 29 Apr 1996 16:14:09 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4m2psh$120s@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap8-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >Is the Unabomber gonna get trendy and popular before this is all over? >The terrorist with a good cause? >The killer with credentials of compassion? >The murderer who meant well? > >I guess he's lucky he never blew up an abortuary; then the media would >*really* be pissed at him. the Polish j*w From EEGG87E@prodigy.com Wed May 1 08:20:12 PDT 1996 Article: 20927 of alt.skinheads Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.jumppoint.com!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.BSDI.COM!uunet!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: EEGG87E@prodigy.com (M Huber) Newsgroups: alt.skinheads Subject: Pray, brother, pray Date: 24 Apr 1996 15:05:59 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 85 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4llg0n$o9m@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: innugap5-int.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Date: Friday, 19-Apr-96 10:06 PM Subject: Prayer by mail AN OPEN LETTER TO GOD with reverence from a heavy heart Where were You yesterday? Were You with the Israelis who fired that deadly blitz into the U.N. camp? Did You go there and see the carnage? Did You see the baby with her head severed from her tiny body? Is your heart filled with tears as are the eyes and hearts of human kind at the sight of this brutality? Is this some cruel, sick cosmic joke? Are we to understand that You and Your followers "love the little children of the world" except Palestinian and Lebanese children? Are these butchers really Your "chosen", best, friends? Do You agree with Madeleine Kerbel Albright that the transfer of culpability to children, in order to kill them, is justifiable? Why do You allow Clinton, Christopher and their murdering handlers to continue to make us all a party to this inhumane slaughter by their condoning, encouraging, and supporting Israel with our money and weapons. Last night one of Your Ministers told me that these unconscionable killings are "Your perfect will" and that it must be "so Jesus will come back soon." Are You the author of this insanity? Why do Your people hide their eyes and harden their hearts - otherwise passionate, intelligent people listening to and believing the apologist in the press and government who rationalize and excuse these horrid crimes? Were You at Deir Yassin when these same uncivilized beasts packed the bodies of women and babies into wells after their massacre? Did You feel anything when they forced naked pregnant women onto flat-bed trucks to be paraded through Jerusalem, stoned and spat upon? Were You anywhere near Sabra and Shatila when Your 'chosen one' Ariel Sharon, flooded these filthy refugee camps with bright lights and sent his and his men and the 'Christian (?) Phalangist' militia, puppets in with only orders to not rape girls under 12 years old? Did You watch as these storm-troops held young boys on the ground cutting away their testicles and then slitting their young throats? Why are so few of Your worshipers aware of these heinous war crimes in hundreds of nameless villages? Did You 'go before' these maniacal, fiendish bastards as they forced POWs to crawl and bark like dogs while shouting, "long live Begin, long live Sharon?" Are You behind this blatant demonstration of 'selective humanitarianism' wherein we are instructed to make such a prodigious difference between the terrorist killing of some children and treat the deaths of others with callous disregard? I just observed a period of silence in respect for the lives of those slain in Oklahoma, as it should be, but will there ever be any recognition or even acknowledgement of our dastardly involvement in Israel's terrorism? While near 100 men, women, and little babies lay mangled in this UN camp our duplicitous masters used only one word to describe this unpardonable crime, "regrettable". Will You be with those hypocrits next week at the Holocaust Museum who participate in the iconical worship of fifty year old corpses, while the soil of Your Holy Land is sullied with the fresh blood of children? Why would You send Billy Graham to Oklahoma City and not to Waco or Beirut? Answer me damn-it, answer me! '' DEATH IS THEIR TOOL AND LIFE WAS THEIR TOY'' Nuremberg, 1947 Israel, 1996 -James Floyd
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