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Subject:    ACHMED HUBER WARNING

To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/20
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:    10:11 PM

Just doing some research, don't mind me....                 


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/23
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:    10:22 AM

Andy, you're basically a 'good egg'.                        
Perhaps you jump too quickly to criticise.                  
Ponder how much more impact your posts can deliver should   
they be definitive without critical attack!!                
                                                            
AArdvark                                                    


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To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/23
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:    11:46 AM

I've got bigger fish to fry now, Achmed, thank you very     
much.                                                       
                                                            
P.S. I'm on to you...                                       



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To:                ALL                   Date:    03/10
From:   FGWF47A    RAYMOND NICKLIN       Time:     3:08 AM

                                                            
Date: Tue, 7 MAR 1995 00:36:17 GMT                          
From: ostrovsky victor                 
Newsgroups: ab.politics, alt.bbs.lists,                     
alt.books.tom-clancy, alt.conspiracy,                       
    alt.conspiracy.area51, alt.conspiracy.jfk,              
alt.conspiracy.nhs,                                         
    alt.culture.egyptian, alt.culture.www, alt.desert-shild 
Subject: New <> home page                           
                                                            
The Mossad, Israel's secret intelligence agency.            
A new www home page by Victor Ostrovsky.                    
Look inside the dark corners of the Mossad. See it's methods
of recruitment, liaison, organization and more.             
The place to look is                                        
http:/www.phoenix.ca/mossad                                 
See you in the Mossad.                                      
Enjoy                                                       
Victor                                                      
-----------                                                 
This was on the NET from Victor Ostrovsky, "ex-Mossad       
Officer" and author on Mossad ops.                          
                                                   >>Ray<<  


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To:     UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Date:    03/23
From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    12:47 PM

  I hope you caught the article today on Prodigy about the  
CIA!                                                        


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To:     UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Date:    03/23
From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    12:55 PM

  I hope you caught the article today on Prodigy about the  
CIA!                                                        


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/24
From:   UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Time:     6:38 AM

Asa matter of fact I didn't.  What                          


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To:                ALL                   Date:    03/10
From:   FGWF47A    RAYMOND NICKLIN       Time:     3:19 AM

RE: Ennes                                                   
                                                            
Forwarded from James Ennes (in part)...(USS Liberty)..      
Curiously, that may soon end.  After 27 years, no one who   
has ever looked into the attack with an open mind has been  
able to accept the Israeli story.  And now even the Israelis
seem to be abandoning it.  A new book, "The Secret War      
Against the Jews," by John Loftus and Mark Aarons ADMITS    
that the attack was deliberate. They have finally abandoned 
the lame claim that it was a mistake. Now they have         
concocted a new story.  Now they claim it was NECESSARY to  
attack the Liberty in order to save Israel because,         
according to the authors, Liberty was spying on Israel for  
the benefit of the Egyptians.                               
********                                                    
For a new book about the coverup itself, I recommend THE USS
LIBERTY: DISSENTING HISTORY VS. OFFICIAL HISTORY by John    
Borne, Ph.D.  Dr. Borne won his doctorate in history last   
year with his thesis about the cover-up.  It is powerful    
reading, available from University Microfiche 1 800 521-0600
(order number 9411078) and soon to be available from        
Selective Communications (206 814-2272).                    
                                            >>Ray<<         


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/23
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:    10:22 AM

"Envy of those who prosper" oftimes seems to be the         
underlying cry of the liberals. Yet THEY don't part with    
their OWN sheckles. They use OURS.Makes me wonder about     
their REAL agenda!                                          
                                                            
AArdvark                                                    


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To:     UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Date:    03/23
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:    11:49 AM

OK, Hilda, next question: why don't you support an          
independent homeland for Palestinians?  I mean, if Jews     
deserve a homeland (which we both agree they do), then why  
not other ethno-linguistic groups?  How do you feel about   
the Chechen uprising?  Northern Ireland?  It seems to me any
self-respecting Zionist should support non-fascist          
nationalist movements anywhere, since Zionism itself is a   
non-fascist nationalist movement.                           


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/23
From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    12:59 PM

  I think we should be on guard againt ideologies that      
teach the common good supercedes individual rights.         
  The attacks against the militia's is a good example of how
some would subvert our individual rights in favor of the    
common good.  The folks in the militia's are not violating  
anyones rights and are simply exercising their right to keep
and bear arms and peacefully assemble.  However, some       
groups, such as the ADL and Klanwatch, are asking the       
government to ban the militia's and montior the members, all
in the name of what they percieve as the common good.       
  I have a copy of the Klanwatch propaganda on militia's,   
and it would make Goebbels proud!                           


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/23
From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    12:59 PM

  Socialism requires a certain amount of statism, and in any
statist system it only takes the wrong people to come to    
power for atrocities to occur.                              


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To:     UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Date:    03/23
From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:     1:12 PM

  I don't know a lot about libertarians either.             
                                                            
  In my chart of the America political spectrum, the        
greatest degree of statism occurs at 0 degrees, and the     
least amount of statism occurs at 180 degrees.  The level of
statism decreases on both sides of the circle as one heads  
towards 180 degrees.                                        


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/23
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:09 PM

So what system, therefore, allows dictators NOT to come to  
power?  I can't think of any system of gov't that fully     
safeguards against a dictator investing supreme power in the
state.  After all, Hitler was at first a democratically     
elected official--he only became a dictator and statist     
afterwards.                                                 


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To:     HDDC43B    NANCY JONES           Date:    03/23
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     8:38 PM

Why should it NOT?                                          


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To:     UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Date:    03/23
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     8:38 PM

Hilda, the mask if off?                                     
                                                            
So what would you say to those who emulate your "in a word, 
no" response to the question - if jews merit their own      
homeland.                                                   


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/23
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     8:39 PM

Andy, to ensure that dictators do not attain the power they 
seek, one must first PROMOTE individualism. Collective      
values are only a precursor for collective hysteria. There  
is no such thing as a 'common good' when it comes to freedom
of thought. I have no problem with the 'common good' being  
defined as the government's involvement in the defense of   
our nation, or in the supply of essential services, but once
you allow ANY SINGLE GROUP to influence your thoughts to    
promote a single agenda, you are on the slippery slope to   
collective chaos.  This is why I find the actions of the ADL
and organizations like it, to be so reprehensible in their  
afforts to force-feed their values upon the rest of us.     


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/23
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     8:39 PM

I told you before, there are many more of the zionist       
fascist type, than there are not.                           
                                                            
Fascism is not dead. It is now hides behind the facade of   
zionism.                                                    


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/23
From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    11:40 PM

  Under the origianl intent of the U.S. Constitution each   
state was to be an independant republic with the federal    
government having limited power and no standing army.  Under
that system with no central government and no standing      
federal army, any future dictator or political group would  
have to gain power in all or a majority of the states in    
order rule the entire country.                              
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                              >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          
   From The Lost Peace, by Harold Butler, c1941:            
                                                            
   "This collectivist philosophy is one of the most deeply  
rooted German traits....The herd spirit is stronger among   
the Germans than among any other western people.  The great 
majority have never valued personal liberty, perhaps        
because, as the Nazi leaders assert, they have never felt   
the want of it."                                            
                                                            
  From A Time For Decision, by Sumner Wells, c1944:         
                                                            
  "The unification of Germany, with the centralization of   
all power in Berlin, has made possible the building up of   
Germany's destructive power...It has destroyed the          
opportunity, and even the capacity, for individual          
thinking...The abolition of local government with the       
substitution of authoritarian rule from Berlin destroyed the
last vestiges of regional autonomy....and completed the     
obliteration of German individual liberty."  end quote      


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/24
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     0:38 AM

As usual, you don't answer my question, but answer with     
quotes.  I'll state the question again: what form of        
government is best suited to avoid the rise of              
totalitarianism?                                            
                                                            
                                                            
BTW, it's the Articles of Confederation to which you refer. 
THe U.S. Constitution CLEARLY defines a federal government, 
as well as a Bill of Rights to assure that no state can     
subvert federal law.                                        


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/24
From:   HDDC43B    NANCY JONES           Time:     2:33 AM

Of course, you would...lay a wreath on a Palestinian unnamed
soldier..but I would not want to --- I'm sorry guys die over
there....I'd love for it to stop - immediately....maybe,    
with luck it will by winter....                             
                                                            
                                 Well - maybe?              


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/24
From:   UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Time:     6:35 AM

Because there already is a Palestinian state by the name of 
Jordan.  Both Israel and Jordan were carved out of the      
original Paslestine mandate with  Jordan getting the lion   
share,.  But you already know this. 85% to be precise.      
Everytime the Palestinian population grows and wants more   
does Israel then have to lop off more land and hand it to   
them?  Israel has no responsibility for the socalled        
Palestinian refugees because her Arab neighbors chose to let
them fester in camps at UN and US expense rather than       
integrate them into their economies as Israel did for the   
refugees from Iraq, Iran, Yemen and etc.  Hilda.            


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/24
From:   UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Time:     6:38 AM

I don't as whit to what you AS want.                        


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To:     MAKB53A    STEPHEN LEVINE        Date:    03/15
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     1:22 AM

contd..                                                     
                                                            
You said, "(when you) start talking about excessive         
Jewish influence of the media (your MEDIA/JEWS/INFLUENCE    
thread of this summer), then that is Jew-bashing."          
As you imply that the "MEDIA/JEWS/INFLUENCE" thread was     
written to highlight, criticize, and berrate the            
influence of Jews in the media, allow me to CORRECT         
you and refresh your memory. Luckily I have those posts     
in archive, IN ANTICIPATION of just such  allegations being 
made some time in the future - from someone such            
as you, who is more interested in "building a case",        
than presenting the facts. You have lived up to my          
expectations. But here is my response.                      
                                                            
MEDIA/JEWS/INFLUENCE was a subject I coined to illustrate   
the bias within our media - against Arabs and for the Jews. 
My posts in that subject studied the reporting of the       
Hebron Massacre over a period of time in the Washington     
Post and other journals. I demonstrated quite conclusively  
that it was a good example of a CONCERTED, AND DELIBERATE   
effort to minimize the crimes committed by Israel against   
arabs, while the opposite happened when the victims         
were Jewish. In support of my thesis, I quoted from         
newspapers, radio, and TV reports beginning on the day      
of the massacre when first reports over the initial         
48 hour period indicated that the casualties numbered 64.   
Over time, these numbers gradually decreased. As one rarely 
miscounts bodies of the dead at a figure HIGHER than        
what they really are at the scene of the crime, such a      
'down size' is hard to explain, and it never was. One can   
imagine the death count going UP, as some of the wounded    
succumb to their injuries...but DOWN???? A case of media    
manipulation? A clear possibility.                          
Given the unassailable evidence that our media does play    
the 'bad arab good jew' game, why are you so uptight that   
I have pointed it out?!                                     
                                                            
In another example you said that I had SINGLED out the      
Jews for criticism. You provided the following example:     
"And the Jews for their chutzpah, their persistence, their  
smarts, their unquestioning loyalty to Israel....           
                                                            
I reviewed the post in question, and not surprisingly,      
you did not post the quote in the manner written.           
While you complained that I 'SINGLED OUT' the Jews, you     
conveniently IGNORED the preceeding statements in the SAME  
paragraph that dealt with the English, the Japanese,        
ourselves, the Arabs, AND the Jews. Hardly a case for       
"singling out", as you deliberately and falsely claimed.    
And if you read the post again, you will recognize that     
the issue being discussed were the 'traits' of several      
different peoples. NOT a CRITICISM of Jews all by their     
lonesome. So while none of our  English, Japanese, Arab, or 
American readers, have voiced similar objections,           
one cannot ignore the fact that you, as a Jew, have found   
it unacceptable to be part of a larger group of people all  
being discussed in the same vein - yet you complain??!      
                                                            
Either you should consider yourself as part of a world      
community, and take you lumps as they come to the rest      
of us, OR stop complaining when you are looked as a         
breed apart. You cannot have it both ways. You want         
to be IMMUNE from the kind of scrutiny that we as           
Americans impose upon EVERYBODY else, yet you want          
to enjoy that privilege in anonimity! Just how do  you      
propose we do that?                                         


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To:     MAKB53A    STEPHEN LEVINE        Date:    03/23
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     8:39 PM

Do you pay attention when you talk - ever?                  
                                                            
You said that making derogatory remarks about Muslims is an 
'American problem, not a Jewish problem'.                   
                                                            
Getouttahere! Anything else that Jews have been doing you   
would like to lay on Americans? Iam not surprised that you  
did, - although that does make my most consistent argument. 
......They cant do ANYTHING wrong, can they?                
                                                            
While I agree that you cant blame the entire community for  
the actions of a few, what about for the actions of MOST?   


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/23
From:   MAKB53A    STEPHEN LEVINE        Time:    10:44 PM

Sorry case                                                  
                                                            
Derogatory remarks about muslims are an American problem,   
which I think needs resolution.  I can think of several     
films that stereotyped Egyptians and/or Arabs badly.        
                                                            
You just cannot blame that on the Jews.  Or is that what you
are using as evidence for your theory that Jews control the 
media?                                                      
                                                            
sjl                                                         


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/18
From:   GBRT32A    PATRICK GROFF         Time:    10:28 PM

Why would you address Mr. Levine as "you guys"?             
you did say that you address Mr. Levine as a single person, 
as oppossed to his representing all Jews.                   
                                                            
casey sez; in a note to Stephen Levine dated 03/17 0:48     
"I already DO treat you as individuals."                    
Reallly?? then way the following?                           
"What I find most offensive about all this, is that this is 
a                                                           
deliberate and diabolical attempt by organized Jewry, to    
deceive the American people in a very methodical and        
reasoned manner."                                           
"Its not just that the people here 'do not know', but that  
those who DO know, are portrayed as lunatics, antisemites,  
or just plain liars."                                       
                                                            
I have to appreciate your ability to stick your foot in your
mouth and swizzle it around for a while, and thank you for  
proving your own point, I appreciate that most of all,      
especally the part where you call yourself a "antisemite",  
that to me was that special touch, that self admittance is  
the crowning touch.   ROFL ROFL                             
                                                            
Oh, almost forgot but "irregardless"?? give me a break and  
let me educate you, IRREGARDLESS, REGARDLESS; and incorrect 
or humorous usage, and I know that you weren't being        
humorous, far to comsumed for that.. ROFL,ROFL,ROFLMAO...   


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To:     MAKB53A    STEPHEN LEVINE        Date:    03/23
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     8:39 PM

The issue is not what you 'like', BUT THE LEVEL OF HYSTERIA 
you generate when it comes around.                          
                                                            
Blacks, asians, Christians, and assorted gentry have        
exhibited a remarkable tolerance for such generalizations.As
your example pointed out, the worst the black guy did,was to
short-tip the waitress. In a similar situation one can only 
hypothesize what a jewish patron would have done.But let me 
give you a scenario that is based in reality. He would have 
called the manager,and berated him for having an antisemitic
employee. Then he would write a letter of protest to the    
local newspaper, and get the guy fired. Same difference???! 


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/23
From:   MAKB53A    STEPHEN LEVINE        Time:    10:54 PM

Case                                                        
                                                            
Remeber what happened to Jimmy The Greek.  All because he   
claimed blacks were better athletes than whites because     
they had slightly different arrangement of musculature.     
                                                            
While Jimmy did not know what he was talking about, you     
consider his firing an example of "remarkable tolerance"?   
                                                            
sjl                                                         



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Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/12
From:   FCRF11A    DON KORY              Time:     8:16 PM

I am really interested in who shut down this board and      
topic, subject etc.  I have had Casey getting so personal   
that there is little time for the other hate stuff. Oh      
well, Prodigy folks, you own the system.  Me, If we no      
longer pick on Casey, then so what. Casey is noone anyway.  


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/23
From:   FCRF11A    DON KORY              Time:    11:39 AM

casey you ought to quit when you are ahead.  Bye again.     


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To:     FCRF11A    DON KORY              Date:    03/23
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     8:52 PM

Iam ahead?                                                  


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/23
From:   FCRF11A    DON KORY              Time:    11:06 PM

You're asking me?????  CAAAAAAAASSSSSSIIIIII!  Qu'est que   
-- oh what the devil, I am tired of this crap. Most of the  
folks out there are meatballs anyway.  The only way one     
motivates a meatball is to put it at the top of an inclined 
plane.  Rave on Casey!  Sayonara!                           



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Subject:    HEROES BY AARDVARK  

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/19
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:18 PM

This month' list of Heroes continues:                       
                                                            
Marqis Anthony Kennon                                       
Scott Johnson                                               
State Supreme Court Justice Politan                         
SS Action Group                                             
                                                            
Keep up the good work,men!!                                 


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To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/23
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:    10:28 AM

Thankyou all for your e-mail & suggestions for additions to 
the several indexes ( indices). I'll compile the data &     
after verification will put your suggestions on the list.   
                                                            
AArdvark                                                    


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To:     GBRT32A    PATRICK GROFF         Date:    03/23
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:    10:28 AM

"Anti-heroes" of the AArdvark??                             
They probably belong on the other index, IF you can verify  
the authenticity of same. Try the "Criminals" listing.      
                                                            
AArdvark                                                    


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To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/23
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:    11:53 AM

Hey coward, why don't you explain to everyone on line       
exactly what the "SS Action Group" is?  Or are you too      
afraid to show your real colors?                            
                                                            
I'll give y'all a clue...think of those first two letters...


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To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/23
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:09 PM

Oh and by the way, I'm on to you.....                       



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To:                ALL                   Date:    03/19
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:18 PM

This month's list of criminals continues:                   
                                                            
Jeffrey Wolf                                                
The Bronfmans                                               
Rensburger                                                  
Ivan Boesky                                                 


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To:     GBRT32A    PATRICK GROFF         Date:    03/23
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:    10:22 AM

Apparently it is YOU who can't get with the inuendo.        
Think BEFORE you act, Joker!                                
                                                            
AArdvark                                                    


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To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/23
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:    10:36 AM

Thanks everyone for your e-mail & suggestions. They will be 
added to the list if I can verify the newspaper reporting of
same.                                                       
Again, thanks                                               
                                                            
AArdvark                                                    



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Subject:    JEW FREE PALISTINE? 

To:     CFGT82A    AARON DERMAN          Date:    02/26
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     2:48 AM

Aaron,                                                      
the palestinians are not required to 'endear' themselves to 
the Jews for anything, any more than the Jews should have   
endeared themselves to the Nazis to avoid the Holocaust. If 
for no other reason, it was because some Jews DID try to do 
just that, that they were led like lambs to the slaughter.  
                                                            
Iam astonished at your naive suggestion that the            
Palestinians should now learn to 'endear themselves' to the 
Jews. On the contrary, they should make it as unpleasant as 
they possibly can for the Israelis to continue their        
occupation. They owe that to their own people. Anything else
will not only ensure their continued enslavement at the     
hands of the Jews, but send a signal to other renegade      
nations around the world, that if sufficient pressure is    
exerted upon a people, they can be eventually subdued.      
                                                            
It is the OPPOSITE message that we as Americans should      
ensure that the world will hear. We should make it clear    
that aggression, and occupation will NOT be tolerated at any
price - no matter WHO the perpetrators might be. EVEN if    
they be Jews .... unless you believe that Jews merit a      
special dispensation that exempts them from such resistance,
or retaliation, regardless of their own actions.            


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/23
From:   CFGT82A    AARON DERMAN          Time:     8:39 PM

Casey-                                                      
I absolutely consider a rational aproach to meeting the     
needs of the Palestinians imperative.  But, I should be     
careful here.  I didn't grow up or at any time live in      
Israel.  You may want to ask an Israeli the same question.  
I think they would agree with me.                           
                                                            
The biggest problem I see with finding a rational way to    
address the Palestinian problem is this.  Every case the    
Palestinians make for the sake of their people is based on  
de-ligitimizing that of the Israelis.  They have some very  
strong cases to adress.  But, just like they say they can't>
be at peace with the Israelis because of the violations of  
their rights.  The Israelis can't be at peace with people   
who show every indication of wanting to de-ligitimize       
Israel.  It's kind of like two people with guns pointed at  
each other's heads.  Each says, I can't put the gun down    
because the other has one pointed at me.                    
                                                            
That's where I get very pointed with the arguments you      
present.  You're arguments, which are always pro-Palestinian
and anti-Israel, are inciteful.  There is truth to much of  
what you say, but your not helping the situation.           
                                                    -Aaron  


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To:     CFGT82A    AARON DERMAN          Date:    03/23
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     8:52 PM

The issue should not be the 'incitefulness' of my notes, but
its TRUTHFULNESS - as you have acknowledged.                
                                                            
If the Israelis are the aggressors, and if they are the     
occupiers, and if they are the CAUSE of the violence, there 
really should not be any mollycoddling of such villans.     
                                                            
We did not take a sweet and understanding view of the Iraqi 
occupation, there is no need for us to do otherwise for the 
Israelis - just because they have a powerful lobby within   
our borders. At least NOT if we want to be able to look the 
world in the eye, and stand up proud, in the morning.       


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To:                ALL                   Date:    03/20
From:   NGNS40D    JOSH KEIDAN           Time:     8:07 PM

   Okay by the logic of the last note a lot in the the world
should change. Here are some suggestions I have:            
1. The United States should return all its land to the      
Mexicans and Native Americans                               
2. France should find the descendents of the visagoths and  
return all the land to them                                 
  Pretty dumb eh? Listen The jews have repeatedly offerd    
peace to the Arabs who live Gaza and the west bank and each 
time the peace ovetures have been turned down. Furthermore  
the arabs in the west bank and gaza have said repeatedly    
thta they will take over all of Israel if they get achance. 
Obviously these guys just love the idea of peace.           
It is called reality buddy . Either join it or shut up.     
Thanks.                                                     
      :)                                                    


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/23
From:   XFVP93C    MORGAN LAYNE          Time:     8:39 PM

What revisionist history are you spouting now?              


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/23
From:   CFGT82A    AARON DERMAN          Time:     8:39 PM

Casey-                                                      
The only reason why America got involved in opposing the    
Iraqi expansion was oil.  If Iraq were to take Kuwait they  
would have controlled the Persian oil empire.  Historically 
speaking Kuwait was actually part of Iraq.  Kuwait gained   
independence from Iraq due to Western Influences and their  
interst in having a neutral country with which to do        
bussiness in the Gulf.  Kuwait has been independent too long
for it to be taken back by Iraq by force.  And, the Kuwaitis
are not at all interested in falling under Iraq's influence 
again.                                                      
                                                  >>>       
The Israelis, on the other hand, took control of territories
which had been annexed by hostile nieghbors.  The           
Palestinians didn't accept the partition plan, and the Arab 
states used the Palestinians like pawns against the         
Israelis.  The Israeli move into the West Bank and Golan    
didn't threaten world stability the way the Iraqi move into 
Kuwait did.  In the end, I think the occupied territories   
will be returned to the Palestinians.  But, only after      
Israel can be assured that countries like Jordan, Syria, and
Egypt won't use them as a spring board for launching a war  
of ahniallation against Israel.                             
                                                -Aaron      


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To:     CFGT82A    AARON DERMAN          Date:    03/23
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     9:22 PM

Oil was an ESCUSE. Let us look at the facts. You say, we    
entered the war to ensure that our oil supplies were not    
cornered. You felt that Iraq would control all the oil that 
flows through the gulf, if it conquered Kuwait.             
                                                            
1. The worst Iraq could have done with Kuwaiti oil was to   
reduce its supply to force prices up.                       
                                                            
But the world is already doing WITHOUT Iraqi oil - with no  
adverse affect. We are also doing without much Iranian oil -
without adverse affect.                                     
So the 'control of oil' argument does not wash.             
2. You said that if Iraq took over Kuwait it would control  
the world's primary oil lanes.                              
                                                            
Till the gulf war, we were indeed quite HAPPY with Iraq on  
our side - against the Iranians. And if the Iranian mines   
did not provoke us into an invasion, why would something    
that would have little or NO effect on oil, its price, (we  
have already established that), or its supply route (we are 
establishing that argument now), be ANY reason for us to    
punish Iraq?                                                
                                                            
No, I think the reason WAS Iraq's violation of international
law. Oil had little or nothing to do with it, except to     
serve as a convenient diversion to those who would not think
too profoundly on the subject.                              
                                                            
Now there WAS another troubling issue that could have       
triggered such a response. But that was of importance merely
to Israel - and its supporters. Israel had expressed much   
concern about Iraq's growing military strength  - especially
after its war with Iran cooled down, and it became more     
battle ready than ever before. (in much the same way Israel 
is grunting about Iran of late). It is not inconceivable    
that Buchanan was right when he said (didnt he?), that the  
primary supporters of the Gulf war were the Jewish lobbies  
who were willing to fight the war with Iraq to the last     
American soldier.  Even that argument makes more sense in   
analysis than the one about 'protecting oil'.               
                                                            
But did you really mean it when you said that the Israeli   
occupation of the Golan and other occupied territories "did 
not threaten world stability"???? Really?                   
                                                            
What the heck do you think we have been paying for all these
years? And why are we in the dog house with the rest of the 
world - IF NOT FOR THAT ACTION? You are kidding, right?     


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To:     XWDC96B    ROD RIGAS             Date:    03/23
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     9:41 PM

many thanks rigas. Your antics lend spice to this board.    
                                                            
They also help make your side look quite foolish - not that 
they need much help, but since you are willing to give me a 
helping hand, thanks again.                                 
                                                            
With adversaries like you, who needs allies?  VBG           


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To:     CFGT82A    AARON DERMAN          Date:    03/24
From:   YJWA54A    JOSEPH WEISS          Time:     6:17 AM

Aaron,                                                      
      What is the point of engaging him? There is nthing you
can write that won`t be be a springboard for an attack on   
Israel or American Jewry.                                   
   His explanation of the Iraqi invasion is pure idiocy.If  
Iraq continued through the rest of the Gulf,they would have 
controlled more than 50% of the world`s oil reserves.       
   Of course Israel wanted Iraq`s military destroyed.Iraq   
took part in three Arab invasions of Israel!                
   Aaron,you are too sincere to engage this guy in any kind 
of meaningful discussion.If you do this long enough,you`ll  
realize that Rod has the right idea. He`s right on!     >   
                                                            
                      Best of luck,                         
                                   Joe                      



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Subject:    PALESTINIANS UNITE? 

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/23
From:   FCRF11A    DON KORY              Time:    11:06 PM

I live in an area wherein the current maximum agreement     
among the population is the Fidel Castro must go.  Now if   
Castro were to drop dead tomorrow, would Cuba be free?  I   
doubt it, but let's say that by magic, it happens.  I have  
a number of Cuban-American friends, many born in Cuba, many 
now having been born there but really grew up in the U.S.A. 
They still have a lot of Cuban culture and still speak      
Spanish a lot, but they are Americans with a slight ethnic  
quality and though they rave about how Castro must go,      
should the regime fail and it is left open to a democratic  
rule, I have asked many of my friends, "Who among you will  
go back to Cuba to live and rebuild the country?"  Very few 
will, though they think that it should be done.  Who is     
going back to Cuba?  Probably some who will exploit what    
Cuba has and at the same time build industry and            
agriculture there to help, but to LIVE THERE? NO WAY!  Now  
that exodus began in the '60's and there are people who are 
so young that they were barely infants, yet they scream     
about Castro and how Cuba must be freed.                    
In 1948, Israel became a country according to the U.N. and  
not so according to most of the Arab Countries.  The more   
militarily powerful assured the indiginous people of the    
mandate of Palestine that they need not accept the West     
Bank area as their country of Palestine and Jerusalem as an 
International City, they must wait until their Arab         
brothers squelch Israel and then they will HAVE IT ALL.     
That was clearly 12 or more years before Fidel Castro and   
now many Palestinians are ensconced in Jordan, Kuwait, etc. 
and doing quite well for themselves.  Oh some may claim     
that they were dislocated and maybe they were, but will     
they move back to PALESTINE, a country?  Not likely!  They, 
like our American Cubans have a traditional enemy a sort of 
ethnic hate, but when it comes to uprooting and building a  
country, Let the PLO or Hamas or whomever else, do it.      
People do get spread all over and over the years, they      
adapt to their current environment.  They may hate their    
history of what they may term as an oppressed people, but,  
in fact, only a few hotheads will really seek to return to  
the homeland.  Others will love to complain, but they will  
enjoy their status quo. And the promises of the Arab        
bretheren in other countries? -- where has that led? It     
isn't BAD, it is just a fact that one cannot continue to    
hold a grudge forever and in so doing kick themselves       
around all the time.  One has to get on with his or her     
life and his or her lot.  Pease is being disturbed, not by  
the great mass of dislocated Palestinians but by the        
militant few who have learned the nature of terrorist       
politics or how to fire up the sympathetic to either their  
cause or those with antipathy for those represented as the  
Palestinian enemy.  Oh don't get me wrong.  There are folks 
like that on both sides of the drawn lines.  It will take   
many generations to have what can be considered real peace. 



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To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/20
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:    10:11 PM

Just doing some research, don't mind me....                 


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     2:28 PM

You may be 'on to me', but if you have bigger fishes to     
fricasse, keep me posted....they probably fit into one of   
the AArdvark's indexes!!                                    
                                                            
AArdvark                                                    



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Subject:    ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED  

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/10
From:   FGWF47A    RAYMOND NICKLIN       Time:     3:08 AM

                                                            
Date: Tue, 7 MAR 1995 00:36:17 GMT                          
From: ostrovsky victor                 
Newsgroups: ab.politics, alt.bbs.lists,                     
alt.books.tom-clancy, alt.conspiracy,                       
    alt.conspiracy.area51, alt.conspiracy.jfk,              
alt.conspiracy.nhs,                                         
    alt.culture.egyptian, alt.culture.www, alt.desert-shild 
Subject: New <> home page                           
                                                            
The Mossad, Israel's secret intelligence agency.            
A new www home page by Victor Ostrovsky.                    
Look inside the dark corners of the Mossad. See it's methods
of recruitment, liaison, organization and more.             
The place to look is                                        
http:/www.phoenix.ca/mossad                                 
See you in the Mossad.                                      
Enjoy                                                       
Victor                                                      
-----------                                                 
This was on the NET from Victor Ostrovsky, "ex-Mossad       
Officer" and author on Mossad ops.                          
                                                   >>Ray<<  


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/25
From:   UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Time:     9:44 AM

why am I not surprised.?                                    


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To:                ALL                   Date:    03/10
From:   FGWF47A    RAYMOND NICKLIN       Time:     3:19 AM

RE: Ennes                                                   
                                                            
Forwarded from James Ennes (in part)...(USS Liberty)..      
Curiously, that may soon end.  After 27 years, no one who   
has ever looked into the attack with an open mind has been  
able to accept the Israeli story.  And now even the Israelis
seem to be abandoning it.  A new book, "The Secret War      
Against the Jews," by John Loftus and Mark Aarons ADMITS    
that the attack was deliberate. They have finally abandoned 
the lame claim that it was a mistake. Now they have         
concocted a new story.  Now they claim it was NECESSARY to  
attack the Liberty in order to save Israel because,         
according to the authors, Liberty was spying on Israel for  
the benefit of the Egyptians.                               
********                                                    
For a new book about the coverup itself, I recommend THE USS
LIBERTY: DISSENTING HISTORY VS. OFFICIAL HISTORY by John    
Borne, Ph.D.  Dr. Borne won his doctorate in history last   
year with his thesis about the cover-up.  It is powerful    
reading, available from University Microfiche 1 800 521-0600
(order number 9411078) and soon to be available from        
Selective Communications (206 814-2272).                    
                                            >>Ray<<         


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To:     UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Date:    03/24
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:    10:25 PM

I dont as whit either - whatever that means. So there.      


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/24
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:    11:28 PM

                                                            
Well, I never claimed that the president has the power to   
make laws....that power lies with Congress, but our system  
of checks and balances gives the president veto power over  
such lawmaking.                                             
                                                            
Some further questions: how has the Federal gov't been too  
powerful since 1933?  And are you saying that our president 
gov't is a centralized one and one at risk of fascism?      


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/25
From:   UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Time:     9:44 AM

Andrew if you believe that Palestinians will give peace  for
land you are either very naive or heartless against Jews.   
They  show very little reason to make real peace  and still 
maintain that the peace is just one step to taking over the 
whole land.  Don't you listen to what they say?  Be         
realistic.  More Jews have died in the pursuit of peace than
during the pursuit of war.at thehands of ther Palestinians. 


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To:     UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:    10:07 AM

It's really disgusting  how you make such blanket statements
about Palestinians.  It seems to me that like most people,  
the majority of Palestinians are moderates, and that they   
are very willing to make peace in exchange for land that    
they can call their own.  Do I think they'll make peace in  
exchange for the occupied territories?  Yes, I do.          
                                                            
Am I heartless against Jews?  Why not ask my father, my     
roommate, and my last two girlfriends, all of whom agree    
that Palestinians need a homeland.  It seems like Likudniks 
like you are the minority, Hilda.                           


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/25
From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    12:11 PM

  An excerpt from Executive Order No. 12947, Jan 23, 1995:  
  I, William J. Clinton, President of the United States of  
America, find that grave acts of violence committed by      
foreign terrorists that disrupt the Middle East peace       
process constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to   
the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the   
United States, and hereby declare a national emergency to   
deal with that threat.      end quote                       
                                                            
  An excerpt from Senate Report 93-549, Nov. 19, 1973:      
  Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state
  of declared national emergency....These proclamations give
  force to 470 provisions of Federal law....This vast range 
  of powers, taken together, confer enough authority to rule
  the country without reference to normal constitutional    
  processes...For 40 years, freedoms and governmental       
  procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying
  degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by      
  states of national emergency.   end quote                 
                                                            
  This latest national emergency is one of 5 that I know of 
at this time, and there are most likely more!               


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/25
From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    12:11 PM

  "Virtually all of the specific economic policies advocated
by the Italian and Germany fascists of the 1930s have also  
been adopted in the United States in some form, and continue
to be adopted to this day.  Sixty years ago, those who      
adopted these interventionist policies in Italy and Germany 
did so because they wanted to destroy economic liberty, free
enterprise, and individualism.  Only if these institutions  
were abolished could they hope to acheive the kind of       
totalalitarian state they had in mind.....As most of the    
rest of the world struggles to privatize industry and       
encourage free enterprise, we in the United States are      
seriously debating whether or not we should adopt 1930s era 
economic fascism as the organizational principle of our     
entire health care system....The state and it academic      
apologists are so skilled at generating propaganda in       
support of such schemes that Americans are mostly unaware of
the dire threat they pose for the future of freedom."       
 - Dr. Thomas J. DiLorenzo, (Professor of Economics at      
   Loyola College, Baltimore, MD) from The Freeman: Ideas on
   Liberty, June 1994, pages 292 & 293.                     


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/25
From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    12:12 PM

  "In the popular mind, the two words [fascist and Nazi,rf] 
are assumed to mean anyone who is a bigot, a racist, an     
extreme nationalist, or a political ultra-conservative.  If 
we examine the political evolution that produced fascism, we
find that fascism has an entirely different meaning.  Once  
we understand what that meaning is, it's easy to understand 
why it is that while the epithet fascist is so popular with 
liberal politicians and commentators, hence little is ever  
written about fascism as a political philosophy.  Liberal   
statists don't want the public to know that when they point 
the finger of fascism at someone else, they are pointing    
four fingers at themselves....Much of modern American       
liberalism is fascism and always has been.  We ought to     
start calling it that.  By calling it what is really is, we 
can draw attention to what is happening in our country and  
explain why we keep losing freedom while violence and hate  
grow and spread through our country.                        
  - Mack Tanner, retired American diplomat, in The Freeman: 
    Ideal on Liberty, June 1994, pages 285 & 287.           


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From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    12:20 PM

  "When the Nazis advocated the boycott of Jewish businesses
because they didn't like Jews, no one believed this coould  
ever lead to wholesale genocide.  Because the Nazis were    
crude, vicious, and didn't care much for reasoned debate in 
search of the truth, a country as civilized as Germany would
never allow them to do everything they wanted to do.  Yet,  
they eventually murdered millions of Jews.  Today, I find   
the never ending calls for boycotts from the left against   
businesses, states, and religious groups they disagree with,
often based upon rumor and hearsay, frighteningly           
reminiscent of Germany in the twenties....The road to hell  
is paved with good intentions.  I fear we are on that road, 
and we travel dwon it at an ever-increasing speed because we
refuse to read the road signs all around us."               
 - Robert Zimmerman, film producer and writer, from The     
   Freeman: Ideas on Liberty, June 1994, page 304.          


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From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    12:20 PM

  "I see creeping fascism in America, just as in Germany, a 
drip at a time; a law here, a law there, all supposedly     
passed to protect the public.  Soon you have total          
enslavement.  Too many Americans have forgotten that tyranny
often masquerades as doing good.  This is the technique the 
Liberal politicans/Liberal media alliance are using to      
enslave America." - Theodore Haas, Dachau survivor.         


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/25
From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    12:20 PM

  From the book Educating for the New World Order, by       
Beverly Eakman, U.S. Dept, of Justice research consultant,  
c1991;                                                      
  pages xi & xii:  List of Allegations                      
  * storing cross-referenceable personal information in non-
    secure data banks in such a way as to pose a threat to  
    national and individual security and to violate the     
    Fourth Amendment;                                       
  * permitting the unauthorized cross-use of offical        
    records;                                                
  * using the social security number in a manner            
    inconsistent with Section 7 of the Privacy Act of 1974; 
  * using taxpayer's money to amass personal data accessible
    as psychological profiles, on children and their        
    famlies, through the use of mandated school assessment  
    tests, fraudulently passed of as academice achievement  
    tests;                                                  
  * scoring tests for "correct" attitudes (in violation of  
    the pluralism ethic) and giving offical seals of        
    approval to curricula whihc purport to remediate        
    incorrect attitudes (as assessed from the test), in     
    violation of the legal prohibition against the federal  
    government establishing curriculum for the nations      
    schools;.                                               
  * creating a closed-loop distribution mechanism for       
    federally approved curricular materials;                
  * fraudulently representing (or allowing to be            
    fraudulently represented) corrective "remedial" programs
    aimed at promoting state-desired opinions and attitudes;
  * abetting the obstruction of public access to documents  
    that would truthfully explain and label attitudinal     
    tests and programs;                                     
  * colluding with private, tax-free organizations for the  
    purpose of creating a national test and national        
    curriculum in violation of federal law;                 
  * allowing certain government agenices to be used as pawns
    of private organizations seeking to redefine, if not    
    revamp, America's social and economic framework (thereby
    placing these government agencies in the position of    
    conspiring to overthrow the U.S. Constitution);         
  * obtaing funds for one purpose and using them for        
    another;                                                
  * inducing local educational institutions to accept       
    federal money-for ulterior purposes and by decpetive    
    means;                                                  
  * creating and subsidizing, in effect, legalized private  
    education system mislabeled a "public" school;          
  * subsidizing a policy of practicing medicine without a   
    license (by permitting medically unlicensed             
    practitioners to carry out therapeutic programs; and    
  * violating the Competition in Contracts Act.             
                                                            
 page 98:  "Did American soldiers lie in their own blood on 
foreign soil in World War II so that policymakers at home   
could perpetrate an Americanized verison of Hitler's youth?"
                                                            
  page 217: This is not the flower children of the 1960s    
wanting to go back to nature and living in communes. This is
extreme, pure fascism, totalitarian-and very high tech.     
This is the futurists' "new world order."                   


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/25
From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    12:20 PM

   From the book Omnipotent Government: The Rise of the     
Total State and Total War, by Ludwig von Mises, c1985 by    
Margit von Mises, original copyright 1944:                  
                                                            
  "What the Nazis really have in mind when indicting the    
Jewish mind for internationalism is the liberal theory of   
free trade and the mutual advantages of international       
division of labor.  The Jews, they say, want to corrupt the 
innate Aryan spirit of heroism by the fallacious doctrines  
of the advantages of peace...the Nazis call the business    
mentality Jewish.  Tacitus informs us that the German tribes
of his day considered it clumsy and shameful to acquire with
sweat what could be won by bloodshed.  This is also the     
first moral principle of the Nazis. They despise individuals
and nations eager to profit by serving other people; in     
their eyes robbery is the noblest way to make a living......
..The Nazis simply call everything that is contrary to their
own doctrines and tenets Jewish and communist.  When        
executing hostages in the occupied countries they always    
say they have  punished Jews and communists. They call the  
President of the United States a Jew and a communist. He who
is not prepared to surrender to them is by that token a Jew.
In the Nazi dictionary the terms Jew and communist are      
synonymous with non-Nazi......Not alone in France but the   
world over anti-semitism made propaganda for Nazism. Such   
was the detrimental effect of interventionism [government   
intervention in the marketplace,rf] and its tendencies      
toward discrimination....The hope of being delivered from a 
Jewish competitor fascinated them while they forgot         
everything else, their nation's independence, freedom,      
religion, civilization...The Nazis have an ally in every    
town or village where there is a man eager to get rid of a  
Jewish competitor. The secret weapon of Hitler is the anti- 
Jewish inclinations of many millions of shopkeepers and     
grocers, of doctors and lawyers, professors and writers.    
  The present war would never have originated but for anti- 
semitism. Only anti-semitism made it possible for the Nazis 
to restore the German people's faith in the invincibility of
its armed forces, and thus to drive Germany again into the  
policy of aggression and the struggle for hegemony.  Only   
the anti-semitic entanglement of a good deal of French      
public opinion prevented France from stopping Hitler when he
could still be stopped without war. And it was anti-semitism
that helped the German armies find in every European country
men ready to open the doors to them.                        
  Mankind has paid a high price indeed for anti-semitism.   
end quote.                                                  
   I am sure some of you will disagree with me, but the way 
I read this is that while anti-semitism was always prevalent
in Europe people still did business with Jews and Jewish    
businesses up until their respective governments intervened.
That government intervention was made possible because of   
envy, an anti-capitalistic mentality, and a disregard for   
individual rights and liberty; three tenets that are        
prevalent in America today!   60 years ago the Nazis' used  
anti-semitism to promote their ideology and called those    
that opposed them Jews and communists.  Today's similar     
mindset in America uses envy and anti-captialism to promote 
their ideology and calls those that oppose them "the rich," 
"big business," "angry whites," and "patriots."             


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From:   FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Time:    12:20 PM

   "A number of nineteenth-century political theorists and  
organizers had advocated a synthesis of nationalism and     
socialism and some had given their conceptions an anti-     
Semitic volkisch twist....What did distinguish the NSDAP    
from others was the skill and the tenacity with which the   
party's views were packaged and presented to the public..." 
     -The Nazi Voter, Thomas Childers, c1983, pages 45 & 46.
 "The Social Democratic voters of the Free Trade Unions are 
in confusion...They have grown doubtful that Marxism is     
really the socialism for which they have struggled."        
     - Nieder mit den Ausbeutern! Enteignet den Besitzenden!
NSDAP leaflet, 1932, - The Nazi Voter.                      


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To:     UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:00 PM

Hilda, Andy apparently DOES think Israel should hand over   
land en masse.                                              
There isn't much there to begin with.                       
There are other alternatives, not of my compilation, by the 
way, such as expelling everyone not a Jew.                  
Then the world can blow up entire countries instead of just 
pieces of cities. GASP.                                     
The Arabs in Israel are indigenous.                         
Remember when Bob Grant went to Israel last year. The Jewish
tourists told him they felt uncomfortable eating in         
restaurants with so many Arabs in them. An Israeli told them
those were JEWS. SHOCKING. They dress alike & you can't (p2)
tell the Arabs & Israelis apart.!!!                         
SO how come we're killing each other??                      
                                                            
AArdvark's curious                                          


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:15 PM

Casey, refer to Rick's 360 degree cirle of 'libertarians'.  
And JEWs do have the right to a Vatterland.                 
Remember, that to live in a group called society, there MUST
be 'common good' requisites or the group falls apart.       
Doesn't matter that such rights might pre-empt individual   
rights. The concept of the individual above & beyond is as  
absurd as the state above & beyond.                         
Democratic govt's ATTEMPT to strike a balance.              
Of course, that doesn' work well here in the US because of  
numerous conspiracies......                                 


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To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:15 PM

He said Zionism is non-facist!!                             
Should have said neo-facist.                                


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To:     UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:27 PM

Very good Hilda. The Israelis did more for the Palestinians 
, or tried to, than their own Arab relatives. Anyone who has
been there can attest that , in essence, the REAL problem is
 one of 'class' differentiation. To make an analogy,        
(politely?) the Palestinian masses are very much like the   
masses in our 'welfare' slums. And relational analogies are 
just as true. Rev. Jackson doesn't help Afro-Americans      
'cause he lives off disparity. Until the Arab Nation deals  
with the Palestinians, they will continue to rot.           
                                                            
AArdvark                                                    


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To:     UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:27 PM

Hilda, when you watch the politicing in Tel-Aviv, the Jews  
AND the Arabs BOTH are fighting peace. All talk peace but do
otherwise. Egypt caved in. Arafat caved in. Who would have  
thought????                                                 
Once in hand, however, the Israelis are just as much to     
blame.                                                      
Reality: come to the table or your grandchildren will die.  
Arafat probably realizes this as he is getting up in years. 
Peace with the 'enemy' or death.                            
Israeli conservatives are even now taking pot-shots at      
Egypt. If any peace can be wrought, in a hundred years their
children will play together.     AArdvark                   


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:37 PM

You call it an alliance, I call it a conspiracy. And which  
peoples are at the top of the liberal think-tank??          
One guess!                                                  
I say it will come back to haunt them, rather than give them
the enslavement of America,as you suggest.                  
                                                            
AArdvark                                                    


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:29 PM

Am I to assume, then, that you disagree with the idea of    
federal or national emergency because it, in some way, could
lead to fascistic or totalitarian excesses?                 


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:29 PM

Dr. DiLorenzo is an idiot from a mediocre college at best.  
The economic reforms he speaks of are not "fascist" but     
"socialist"--New Deal, Nationalism of industry in Italy,    
Germany, etc.  So he's an idiot for misusing terms.         
Furthermore, I don't seem to recall the US making           
territorial claims against other countries, either during   
the 1930s or since as both Italy (Ethiopia) and Germany     
(Western Europe, Poland) both did.  These actions are not a 
function of the socialistic elements of these states.  It is
a result of the rampant, fascist ultra-nationalism of these 
states.  If DiLorenzo's idea were valid, then all socialist 
states would be expansionist....and are they?               


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:29 PM

Rick, the rantings of some arch-conservative are just not   
going to convince me that liberalism=fascism.               
                                                            
Sorry.                                                      


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:33 PM

Zimmerman is an even bigger idiot than DiLorenzi.  If he'd  
ever read American history, he'd know that it was a boycott 
of white-dominated industries in the South that helped pave 
the way for integration.  Of course, perhaps Zimmerman is a 
segregationist.  Boycotts are simply a way of stating       
political beliefs through economic action.  Boycotting of   
Jewish business was based on race, not on unfair business   
practices.  Furthermore, Nazi boycotts culminated in        
Kristallnacht, the worst pogrom in history.  Can you name me
an American boycott that ended this way?  If you can't, it's
merely paranoia.                                            


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:33 PM

Theodore Haas is probably a Likudnik.  What can I say: if it
wasn't for liberalism, Haas wouldn't be able to live in the 
buildings or eat in the same restaurants as us.             
Anti-semitic segregation was common, even in New York, well 
into the 1930's.  It seems it was Roosevelt and his         
successors, mostly liberal, who put an end to that.         


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:34 PM

OK, here you make some decent points, but can you in any way
tie your claims to either the worldwide socialist movement, 
or the American liberalism movement?                        


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:39 PM

You've already sent me this note, so I'll make my reply     
brief.                                                      
                                                            
Nazi Germany employed some socialist principles, but        
certainly not all.  SO WHAT?????  Where is the link that it 
was the socialism and not the race hatred that led to the   
Holocaust??????????                                         
                                                            
PROOF, DAMMIT!!!  I can name dozens of socialist states, or 
states that incorporate socialist ideals that are           
non-violent.                                                


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To:     FTRB61A    RICK FARLEY           Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:39 PM

Fine, so you've proven that the Nazis disliked Jews because 
of their involvement in business.  Of course, here we fall  
upon a classic anti-Semitic syllogism: how could the Jewish 
people be simultaneously responsible for communism and for  
too much control over the banking which supported private   
enterprise.  You seem to contradict yourself, as Mises and  
the Nazis themselves did.  The Nazis claimed to be striking 
a blow for the German average businessman.                  
                                                            
And you still don't link any of this to present-day America.
 Frankly, you are growing quite tiresome.                   


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To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:43 PM

1) My name is Andrew, not Andy.                             
2) Where do you suggest we deport all those Jews from Israel
to?                                                         
3) What's this "we" stuff when you discuss the Arab/Israeli 
conflict.  Are you one or the other?  Huber sounds awfully  
Germanic in origin to me, and frankly I think your assertion
that your name is "Achmed" is a load of bull.               
4) I'm on to you....                                        


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To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:43 PM

No, if you could read, you'd see that I'd said that I       
supported non-fascist Zionism.  I'm perfectly aware that    
there are fascistic Zionist movements.  Why not read the    
whole note instead of looking for buzzwords?                
                                                            
And why'll you're at it, why don't you learn to spell the   
world FASCIST.                                              
                                                            
And by the way, when are you coming to New YOrk to insult me
to my face.                                                 
                                                            
I'm on to you, Huber...                                     


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To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:45 PM

Oh, almost forgot....how are your friends in Yemen?         


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To:     UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Date:    03/26
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     0:27 AM

You cannot claim that more Jews have died in the 'pursuit of
peace', when they are sitting pretty on Palestinian land.   
                                                            
You cannot occupy another people's land, and then call for a
peace with the original occupants, without a committement to
evacuate the property, compensate them for their loss,and   
punish the perpetrators.                                    
                                                            
It does not work that way. Criminals cannot call for        
'peace', when they are being pursued for murder and         
burglary. Once they commit the crime, they loose any rights 
they may have had to expect to live in 'peace'.             


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To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/26
From:   UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Time:     6:55 AM

Your father??? Ask him He married a non Jew so he was  not  
faithful to Judaism.  Your girlfriends---maybe they were    
Arabs, how do we know..  Is that why Netanyahu is leading in
all the polls?  I am disgusting eh?  Then let the           
Palestinians stop all their terrorism.  I never trust anyone
who is out to kill me.                                      


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To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/26
From:   UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Time:     6:58 AM

Very good qwuestion.  Perhaps the best question yet. For an 
answer you will have to contact the Arabs because they      
started the killing.  What would you do if someone stuck a  
gun in your face?                                           


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From:   UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Time:     7:00 AM

You are beginning to show a great deal of insight.          


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To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/26
From:   UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Time:     7:06 AM

I take back what I said in the last note  at least          
partially.  Egyp never came to the reality of peace.---Sadat
did and he died for it.  Egypt never made peace with Israel.
 They took from Israel and the US and even today they write 
dreadful things about Israel in their newspapaers.  If it   
wasn't for US aid they probasbly would be shooting off      
rockets instead of their mouths.  They never sent an        
ambassador to Israel---after all these years.               


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To:     MAKB53A    STEPHEN LEVINE        Date:    03/15
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     1:22 AM

contd..                                                     
                                                            
You said, "(when you) start talking about excessive         
Jewish influence of the media (your MEDIA/JEWS/INFLUENCE    
thread of this summer), then that is Jew-bashing."          
As you imply that the "MEDIA/JEWS/INFLUENCE" thread was     
written to highlight, criticize, and berrate the            
influence of Jews in the media, allow me to CORRECT         
you and refresh your memory. Luckily I have those posts     
in archive, IN ANTICIPATION of just such  allegations being 
made some time in the future - from someone such            
as you, who is more interested in "building a case",        
than presenting the facts. You have lived up to my          
expectations. But here is my response.                      
                                                            
MEDIA/JEWS/INFLUENCE was a subject I coined to illustrate   
the bias within our media - against Arabs and for the Jews. 
My posts in that subject studied the reporting of the       
Hebron Massacre over a period of time in the Washington     
Post and other journals. I demonstrated quite conclusively  
that it was a good example of a CONCERTED, AND DELIBERATE   
effort to minimize the crimes committed by Israel against   
arabs, while the opposite happened when the victims         
were Jewish. In support of my thesis, I quoted from         
newspapers, radio, and TV reports beginning on the day      
of the massacre when first reports over the initial         
48 hour period indicated that the casualties numbered 64.   
Over time, these numbers gradually decreased. As one rarely 
miscounts bodies of the dead at a figure HIGHER than        
what they really are at the scene of the crime, such a      
'down size' is hard to explain, and it never was. One can   
imagine the death count going UP, as some of the wounded    
succumb to their injuries...but DOWN???? A case of media    
manipulation? A clear possibility.                          
Given the unassailable evidence that our media does play    
the 'bad arab good jew' game, why are you so uptight that   
I have pointed it out?!                                     
                                                            
In another example you said that I had SINGLED out the      
Jews for criticism. You provided the following example:     
"And the Jews for their chutzpah, their persistence, their  
smarts, their unquestioning loyalty to Israel....           
                                                            
I reviewed the post in question, and not surprisingly,      
you did not post the quote in the manner written.           
While you complained that I 'SINGLED OUT' the Jews, you     
conveniently IGNORED the preceeding statements in the SAME  
paragraph that dealt with the English, the Japanese,        
ourselves, the Arabs, AND the Jews. Hardly a case for       
"singling out", as you deliberately and falsely claimed.    
And if you read the post again, you will recognize that     
the issue being discussed were the 'traits' of several      
different peoples. NOT a CRITICISM of Jews all by their     
lonesome. So while none of our  English, Japanese, Arab, or 
American readers, have voiced similar objections,           
one cannot ignore the fact that you, as a Jew, have found   
it unacceptable to be part of a larger group of people all  
being discussed in the same vein - yet you complain??!      
                                                            
Either you should consider yourself as part of a world      
community, and take you lumps as they come to the rest      
of us, OR stop complaining when you are looked as a         
breed apart. You cannot have it both ways. You want         
to be IMMUNE from the kind of scrutiny that we as           
Americans impose upon EVERYBODY else, yet you want          
to enjoy that privilege in anonimity! Just how do  you      
propose we do that?                                         


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED  

To:     MAKB53A    STEPHEN LEVINE        Date:    03/24
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     7:52 PM

So you dont think that Jews are involved in the denigration 
of Muslims, Islam or arabs? - just us regular Americans do  
that. Huh, who'd have thought.                              
                                                            
I guess members of the Jewish Congress have a right to sit  
in on meetings where America's foreign policy decisions are 
made. I guess our constitution gives them special powers and
authority to 'help' us make such decisions, huh? I guess all
minorities enjoy such priviledges, huh?  I guess this does  
not indicate that Jews make any special efforts to malign   
the muslim world, huh?  They are just 'innocent bystanders'.
huh?  ...................You've been inhaling, havent you?. 


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED  

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/25
From:   MAKB53A    STEPHEN LEVINE        Time:     1:27 PM

Casey                                                       
                                                            
End discussion.  What you are spouting is garbage.          
                                                            
I do not think the American Jewish community gets any       
special privileges.  If a meeting is open and people can sit
in, they get to sit in.  If not, they do not.               
                                                            
As to anti-arab bigotry in this country, you are living in  
la la land if you want to blame the Jews for it.  But I     
think you live in la la land anyway .                    
sjl                                                         


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED  

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:47 PM

V, all the way around..full circle.                         
We can't blame the film "Priest" on them either.            
Disney's Chairman isprobably  an Arab. BIG .             
                                                            
AArdvark never shocked                                      


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED  

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/18
From:   GBRT32A    PATRICK GROFF         Time:    10:28 PM

Why would you address Mr. Levine as "you guys"?             
you did say that you address Mr. Levine as a single person, 
as oppossed to his representing all Jews.                   
                                                            
casey sez; in a note to Stephen Levine dated 03/17 0:48     
"I already DO treat you as individuals."                    
Reallly?? then way the following?                           
"What I find most offensive about all this, is that this is 
a                                                           
deliberate and diabolical attempt by organized Jewry, to    
deceive the American people in a very methodical and        
reasoned manner."                                           
"Its not just that the people here 'do not know', but that  
those who DO know, are portrayed as lunatics, antisemites,  
or just plain liars."                                       
                                                            
I have to appreciate your ability to stick your foot in your
mouth and swizzle it around for a while, and thank you for  
proving your own point, I appreciate that most of all,      
especally the part where you call yourself a "antisemite",  
that to me was that special touch, that self admittance is  
the crowning touch.   ROFL ROFL                             
                                                            
Oh, almost forgot but "irregardless"?? give me a break and  
let me educate you, IRREGARDLESS, REGARDLESS; and incorrect 
or humorous usage, and I know that you weren't being        
humorous, far to comsumed for that.. ROFL,ROFL,ROFLMAO...   


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED  

To:     MAKB53A    STEPHEN LEVINE        Date:    03/24
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     8:16 PM

No steve, we are not talking about such comments from       
PROMINENT personalities. We are talking about the freedom of
people to express their opinions without fear of            
persecution. Jewish organizations have been notorious in    
making concerted efforts to muzzle such opinions from       
Americans at all levels. From Congressmen to media          
personalities, from librarians to teachers, Jewish          
organizations have succeeded in hounding off their critics -
- not through strength of argument, but sheer harrassement. 
                                                            
Only when ALL Americans realize that we have nothing to fear
but fear itself, will such tactics be neutralized.          


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED  

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/25
From:   MAKB53A    STEPHEN LEVINE        Time:     1:35 PM

Case                                                        
                                                            
Come now:                                                   
                                                            
You really expect us to believe that congressmen, teachers, 
media personne, etc. only come under fire when they make    
anti-jewish remarks and not when they make bigotted         
remarks against other peoples?                              
                                                            
What do you take the readership of this board for?  You     
insult their intelligence.                                  
sjl                                                         


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED  

To:     MAKB53A    STEPHEN LEVINE        Date:    03/26
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     0:43 AM

Insult your intelligence?                                   
Dont flatter yourself, Steve.                               
                                                            
As for 'expecting' anyone to believe that Jews are far, far,
FAR, more organized in their attempts to seek out any       
perceived comment that would put them in a less than        
pristine light, is not a particularly demanding expectation.
You might not want to believe it, but then, you have also   
refused to acknowledge that there is ANYthing Jews can be   
criticized for without some ulterior antisemitic motives.   
With such objectivity (sic), I wonder how you intereact with
so many gentiles in this country. Must be hard on you, eh?  


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    ADL/MOSSAD EXPOSED  

To:     MAKB53A    STEPHEN LEVINE        Date:    03/26
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     1:12 AM

Stevie,                                                     
                                                            
I know Ive asked this before, but as you have not answered  
my question, would you at least let us know if you will EVER
respond to the following querry ......                      
                                                            
Are there ANY criticisms of Jews, or Israel that you would  
consider to be justified, and NOT necessarily a benchmark of
a person's antisemitism?  We have already determined that   
such criticisms of Christians and others, are often levelled
by many Jews, who in turn are aghast and aroused to outrage,
when similar accusations are levelled back at them.         



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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/12
From:   FCRF11A    DON KORY              Time:     8:16 PM

I am really interested in who shut down this board and      
topic, subject etc.  I have had Casey getting so personal   
that there is little time for the other hate stuff. Oh      
well, Prodigy folks, you own the system.  Me, If we no      
longer pick on Casey, then so what. Casey is noone anyway.  


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:     FCRF11A    DON KORY              Date:    03/24
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     8:24 PM

Of course Iam asking you. YOU said it!                      
                                                            
And why do you think that 'most of the others are           
meatballs'?  Did somebody else say something you didnt like?
                                                            
You poor persecuted bugger - Donkory against the world...   
what a thought.                                             


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/24
From:   FCRF11A    DON KORY              Time:    10:17 PM

Casey your value on this BB has just diminished to that     
lower than whale deficatiion at the bottom of he sea.       


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:     FCRF11A    DON KORY              Date:    03/24
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:    10:35 PM

Oh NO! Not "whale deficatiion at the bottom of he sea"      
Anything but that! aiiiiiii!                                
                                                            
Spelling bee champ you were not - or are you translating    
from Hebrew again?                                          


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/25
From:   FCRF11A    DON KORY              Time:     3:15 PM

CASEY AND CASE DISMISSED.                                   


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:47 PM

Actually you are ahead, V.                                  
Tonight you are HOT.                                        
Previous subject board shows it.                            


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/25
From:   JDLN50A    JOHN COLLIAS          Time:     6:12 PM

LET US DEFINE OUR TERMS, SHALL WE? "PALESTINIANS" DO NOT    
EXIST; THEY ARE MERELY ARABS RESIDING ON JEWISH LAND. THE   
LAND WAS CALLED "PALESTINA" BY THE CONQUERING ROMANS. BEFORE
THAT, IT WAS ISRAEL. IT WILL ALWAYS BE ISRAEL.              


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:     JDLN50A    JOHN COLLIAS          Date:    03/26
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     1:12 AM

Oh? Well I humbly apologize to your vast insight on this    
subject. But I guess you have a lot of education to do for  
the rest of the world. Right now its fairly well accepted   
that the Palestinians are a distinct and indigenous people. 
You got your work cut out for you fella. You can start with 
our State Department.                                       
                                                            
As for Europeans who practice a form of Judaism that is     
unique to most orthodox Jews, and many Jewish sects like the
Naturai Karta and the Samaritans in Israel, have about as   
much right to the land as a monkey's hand in a hornet's     
nest.  Naturally, some are brighter than others.            


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/25
From:   FCRF11A    DON KORY              Time:     8:34 AM

This case has been concluded.  All witnesses have departed  
to parts unknown.  The court rules: CASE DISMISSED!         


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/25
From:   AEFR07A    ALAN BERNSON          Time:    11:09 AM

It calls for the destruction of Israel and for the          
annhilation of it Jewish residents.                         
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
Portions of the Charter are as follows:                     
                                                            
Article 6: Jews who were living permanently in Palestine    
until the beginning of the Zionist invasion will be         
considered Palestinians.                                    
                                                            
Comment: Arab literature marks the  so called "Zionist      
Invasion" as 1917, the date of the Balfour Declaration..    
Arab leaders state openly that they will  exterminate all   
Jews living in Israel once they "liberate" Palestine.In     
fact, the Mufti of Jerusalem, spent the war years as a      
guest of Himmler , pouring over blueprints of gas chambers  
to be built in  Tel Aviv and Haifa after the German victory.
                                                            
Article 15 : The liberation of Palestine, ...is a national  
duty to eliminate the Zionist [ read "Jewish] presence from 
Palestine.                                                  
                                                            
Article 19. The partitioning of Palestine in 1947 and the   
establishment of Israel are  null and void.                 
                                                            
Comment: The Arab armies  thumbed their noses at the UN in  
1947, and unilaterally voided the UN partition when they    
invaded the Palestinian Jewish state in  1948.              
                                                            
Article 21: The Palestinian Arab people, in expressing      
itself thru armed Palestinian revolution, rejects every     
solution that is a substitute for a complete liberation of  
Palestine [read: all land which is now Israel ] and rejects 
all plans that aim at the settlement of the Palestine issue 
or its internationalization.                                
                                                            
Article 22: ....the liberation of Palestine will destroy    
the Zionist  [read "Jewish " presence ."]                   
                                                            
                                                            
III Writer's Comment:                                       
                                                            
The PLO Covenant  declares that the objective of the        
Palestinian People is to  conquer what is now Israel and    
annhilate or expel all of its Jewish inhabitants.           
                                                            
The Palestinians are the only group of people in the World  
whose national Charter or Constitution imposes a duty on    
its citizens to destroy another people.                     
                                                            
As an agressor group, Palestinians are not "victims"        
.Israeli Jews are more than justified in using every means  
and every method to frustrate the ghoulsh plans of          
Palestinians.If Palestinians are suffering, it is because   
of the evil they are trying to accomplish.                  
                                                            
                                                            
Alan Bernson                                                
                                                            
                                                            
                                                            
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Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.                                 
                                                            
To:                                      Date:    3/25/95   
From:   AEFR07A    Alan                  Time:    9:48AM ET 


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:     AEFR07A    ALAN BERNSON          Date:    03/26
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     1:12 AM

You said the Palestinian Charter calls for THE DESTRUCTION  
OF ISRAEL, and to push the Jews into the sea.               
                                                            
I do not see those statements in your quotes.               
                                                            
All that came across, were YOUR attempts to equate "zionist"
with "jew".  Thats like equating 'Nazi' with 'German'.      
                                                            
As for whether the Palestinians "DESERVE" their fate as you 
claim, I can only point out to your own reactions to similar
comments about the Jewish role in the Holocaust. Why should 
ONE explanation be 'acceptable', and the other, not ?       


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/25
From:   AEFR07A    ALAN BERNSON          Time:    11:09 AM

                                                            
                                                            
I.Some quotes from Arab Leaders:                            
                                                            
"This will be a war of extermination and a momentous        
massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian         
massacres and the Crusades. " Arab League Sec. Gen Azzam    
Pasha- May 15, 1948, the day five Arab armies invaded the   
new state of Israel.                                        
                                                            
" I declare a holy war, my Moslem brothers ! Murder Jews!   
Murder them all "                                           
                                                            
Haj Amin  Husseini, Mufti of Jerusalem 1948                 
                                                            
"I announce from here, on behalf of the United Arab         
Republic people, that this time we will exterminate         
Israel." Abdel Gamal Nasser, Speech at Alexandria, July 26, 
1959.                                                       
                                                            
"The existence of Israel is an error which must be          
rectified. This is our our opportunity to wipe out the      
ignominy which has been with us since 1948. Our goal is     
clear-- to wipe Israel of the Map." President Abdel Raman   
Aref, of Iraq, May 31, 1967                                 
                                                            
"The goal of our struggle is the end of Israel and there    
can be no compromise." Yasser Arafat, the Washington Post,  
March 29, 1970                                              
                                                            
The non-Arab people in the world who sympathize with        
Palestinians do so only because they believe that Jews, be  
they in Israel or anywhere else, should be  destroyed.      
                                                            
"The struggle with the Zionist enemy is not a struggle      
about Israel's borders but about Israel's existence . We    
will never agree  to anything less than the return of all   
our land and the establishment of an independent state."    
Bassam Abu  Sharif, PLO spokesman, quoted  by Kuwait News   
Agency, May 31 1986                                         
                                                            
"The  establishment of an independent Palestinian state on  
the West Bank and the Gaza Strip does not contradict our    
ultimate strategic aim, which is the establishment of a     
democratic state in the entire territory of Palestine, but  
rather is a step in that direction." Abu Iyad, PLO          
executive in interview with Al-Safir, Lebanon, Jan. 25,     
1988.                                                       
                                                            
II. The PLO Charter                                         
                                                            
The foregoing  attitudes were the basis for the PLO Charter 
which  was written in 1964, three years before the  June    
1967 war..In May of 1967, Arab leaders declared they would  
invade and destroy Israel and ordered UN Peacekeeping       
forces out of  the area in preprartion for  their announced 
invasion.Arabs danced in the streets in anticipation of     
the promised massacre and  Arab radio broadcasts in Hebrew  
told the Jews to prepare for death..To frustrate Arab       
plans, although surrounded and outnumbered by Arab armies   
equipped by Russia to the hilt, the Jews attacked and in 6  
days, destroyed five invading Arab armies and occupied what 
is now the so called "territories"..                        
                                                            
The PLO Charter is the National Constitution of             
Palestinian Arabs. and it must be remembered that it was    
written in 1964, three years before the 1967 war when there 
 were no "occupied territories.."                           
                                                            
The charter  never been changed and if it were changed, it  
would be changed only for the purpose of gaining some bases 
from which to carry out the destruction of Israel.          


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    CASEY - A CASE.     

To:     AEFR07A    ALAN BERNSON          Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:47 PM

Have you tried quoting that great statesman of tolerance,   
Yitzak Shamir???                                            



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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    HEROES BY AARDVARK  

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/19
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:18 PM

This month' list of Heroes continues:                       
                                                            
Marqis Anthony Kennon                                       
Scott Johnson                                               
State Supreme Court Justice Politan                         
SS Action Group                                             
                                                            
Keep up the good work,men!!                                 


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    HEROES BY AARDVARK  

To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     2:28 PM

Thanks for your interesting suggestions. Note that Jill     
(your favorite purveyor) DEMANDED I remove jeffrey wolf from
the index, while Nancy suggested he be on BOTH indexes!!    
It's kind of like the 'chicken or the egg' theory.          
Was he involved from the beginning in orchestrating his     
wife's demise or was he just an efficient opportunist??     
Either way, we won't know 'till the cops capture 'gottlieb' 
& debrief him.                                              
Yawn......                                                  


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    HEROES BY AARDVARK  

To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     2:34 PM

SS.... super-sport??                                        
Actually, I don't know, nor do I care.                      
We cull newspaper reports & list the 'perps' on one of the  
indexes, depending on whether they accomplished their goal  
or whether they screwed themselves up royally.              
You seem to have a thing about this. Do you call the NY     
TIMES & make disparaging remarks??                          
Do you want to censor the news??                            
Most of my e-mails suggests they find it very humorous.     
YOu have no sense of humor, joker.                          
                                                            
AArdvark                                                    


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    HEROES BY AARDVARK  

To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     2:48 PM

It appears you are not intellectually sophistocated enough  
to comprehend the ironicism involved in these indices.      
Try again. There will be a test tomorrow.                   
You see one word you don't like & rather than trying to     
glean what's very apparent before your eyes, you jump into  
the fire of dupes.                                          
Sheeeeesh                                                   


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    HEROES BY AARDVARK  

To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:51 PM

The SS Action Group (SS standing for Schutzstaffel, the Nazi
special forces in charge of operating the concentration     
camps) is a Neo-Nazi organization.  For you to applaud the  
successful completion of their actions (whatever they may   
be) implies Nazi tendencies on your part.                   
                                                            
So when are you going to come to New York and call me       
"joker" to my face?                                         
                                                            
P.S. I'm on to you...                                       


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    HEROES BY AARDVARK  

To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:53 PM

Come on coward and insult me to my face.  Face up to your   
beliefs.  If you'd like, I can page back and list every     
post, by number, where you've espoused anti-Semitic and     
downright Nazi beliefs, and when I've pressed you to back up
your cryptic points, you duck and run.  That sounds an awful
lot more like cowardice than "irony" and "wit."  Actually,  
what it is rhymes with the latter term.                     
                                                            
I'll say it for you, Achmed (if that's your real name).  You
are an anti-Semite and most likely a neo-Nazi to boot.  And 
I'm more than willing to come to where you live and tell you
that to your face, if you're too coward to come to New York>
and face me.                                                
                                                            
In the meantime, say hi to all your friends in Yemen and    
remember...I'm on to you....                                


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Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    HEROES BY AARDVARK  

To:     EEGG87A    A HUBER               Date:    03/25
From:   CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Time:     5:53 PM

Oh, and as far as intellectual sophistication, you          
misspelled the word "sophistication."                       
                                                            
If it wasn't so pathetic, it'd be funny.                    
                                                            
P.S. I'm on to you...                                       


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Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    HEROES BY AARDVARK  

To:     CBKG24B    ANDREW MATHIS         Date:    03/26
From:   UUVR02B    HILDA ROTHSCHILD      Time:     7:15 AM

At least he is more honest than you.  What you see is what's
you got.  He doesn't pretend to like Jews as some others I  
know who hide behind--I'm partially Jewish---so is Jill and 
by Nazi standards so is Cap Wineburg but that doesn't stop  
him from beinf Anti semitic                                 



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Board:      NEWS BB           
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Subject:    JEW FREE PALISTINE? 

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/20
From:   NGNS40D    JOSH KEIDAN           Time:     8:07 PM

   Okay by the logic of the last note a lot in the the world
should change. Here are some suggestions I have:            
1. The United States should return all its land to the      
Mexicans and Native Americans                               
2. France should find the descendents of the visagoths and  
return all the land to them                                 
  Pretty dumb eh? Listen The jews have repeatedly offerd    
peace to the Arabs who live Gaza and the west bank and each 
time the peace ovetures have been turned down. Furthermore  
the arabs in the west bank and gaza have said repeatedly    
thta they will take over all of Israel if they get achance. 
Obviously these guys just love the idea of peace.           
It is called reality buddy . Either join it or shut up.     
Thanks.                                                     
      :)                                                    


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Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    JEW FREE PALISTINE? 

To:     YJWA54A    JOSEPH WEISS          Date:    03/24
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     8:36 PM

I expect birds of a feather to flock together.              
                                                            
But your note was most interesting in what it did not say.  
                                                            
You concede then, that there is no argument you can make on 
behalf of Israel, and that you side is now reduced to       
obscenities and namecalling which are the only weapons you  
have left - and rigas your only hope! How pathetic.         
But I could have told you that months ago, when you began   
the now familar "Israel good, Arab bad" anthem of American  
jewry. A peek behind its mask has revealed a beast of a     
different nature, hasnt it?Thats justthe tip of the iceburg.


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    JEW FREE PALISTINE? 

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/25
From:   YJWA54A    JOSEPH WEISS          Time:     6:12 AM

We`re all convinced that you know more about Jews,Jewish cul
ture,and Jewish history,than anyone on Earth,so please      
answer a few questions.                                     
   1. How many Jews are there in the House of               
Representatives and the Senate?                             
   2. How many of the world`s top 100 commercial banks are  
owned by Jews?                                              
   3. How many of the "Fortune 100" businesses are owned by 
Jews?                                                       
   4. Aside from the motion picture medium, which of the    
other media are inordinately influenced by Jews, and who,by 
name,are these people?                                      
   5.How many of the states of The United States have more  
than 50,000 Jewish residents?                               
   Your input would be greatly appreciated.                 
                                                            
                             Joe                            


===============   Reply    3 of Note    1 =================

Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    JEW FREE PALISTINE? 

To:     XFVP93C    MORGAN LAYNE          Date:    03/25
From:   EEGG87A    A HUBER               Time:     3:59 PM

Morgan, Casey doesn't spout revisionism. He complains, as do
I, about the liberals' successful attempts to-date to revise
European influence in the Americas.                         
                                                            
Guarantee it will be their demise.                          
                                                            
AArdvark backfires.                                         



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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    PALESTINIANS UNITE? 

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/23
From:   FCRF11A    DON KORY              Time:    11:06 PM

I live in an area wherein the current maximum agreement     
among the population is the Fidel Castro must go.  Now if   
Castro were to drop dead tomorrow, would Cuba be free?  I   
doubt it, but let's say that by magic, it happens.  I have  
a number of Cuban-American friends, many born in Cuba, many 
now having been born there but really grew up in the U.S.A. 
They still have a lot of Cuban culture and still speak      
Spanish a lot, but they are Americans with a slight ethnic  
quality and though they rave about how Castro must go,      
should the regime fail and it is left open to a democratic  
rule, I have asked many of my friends, "Who among you will  
go back to Cuba to live and rebuild the country?"  Very few 
will, though they think that it should be done.  Who is     
going back to Cuba?  Probably some who will exploit what    
Cuba has and at the same time build industry and            
agriculture there to help, but to LIVE THERE? NO WAY!  Now  
that exodus began in the '60's and there are people who are 
so young that they were barely infants, yet they scream     
about Castro and how Cuba must be freed.                    
In 1948, Israel became a country according to the U.N. and  
not so according to most of the Arab Countries.  The more   
militarily powerful assured the indiginous people of the    
mandate of Palestine that they need not accept the West     
Bank area as their country of Palestine and Jerusalem as an 
International City, they must wait until their Arab         
brothers squelch Israel and then they will HAVE IT ALL.     
That was clearly 12 or more years before Fidel Castro and   
now many Palestinians are ensconced in Jordan, Kuwait, etc. 
and doing quite well for themselves.  Oh some may claim     
that they were dislocated and maybe they were, but will     
they move back to PALESTINE, a country?  Not likely!  They, 
like our American Cubans have a traditional enemy a sort of 
ethnic hate, but when it comes to uprooting and building a  
country, Let the PLO or Hamas or whomever else, do it.      
People do get spread all over and over the years, they      
adapt to their current environment.  They may hate their    
history of what they may term as an oppressed people, but,  
in fact, only a few hotheads will really seek to return to  
the homeland.  Others will love to complain, but they will  
enjoy their status quo. And the promises of the Arab        
bretheren in other countries? -- where has that led? It     
isn't BAD, it is just a fact that one cannot continue to    
hold a grudge forever and in so doing kick themselves       
around all the time.  One has to get on with his or her     
life and his or her lot.  Pease is being disturbed, not by  
the great mass of dislocated Palestinians but by the        
militant few who have learned the nature of terrorist       
politics or how to fire up the sympathetic to either their  
cause or those with antipathy for those represented as the  
Palestinian enemy.  Oh don't get me wrong.  There are folks 
like that on both sides of the drawn lines.  It will take   
many generations to have what can be considered real peace. 


===============   Reply    1 of Note    1 =================

Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    PALESTINIANS UNITE? 

To:     FCRF11A    DON KORY              Date:    03/24
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:     8:48 PM

And Don Kory, pretends he offers a viable solution.         
Allow me propose, that the Palestinians INDEED SHOULD NOT   
compromise their integrity, or their demand for freedom. It 
is the RIGHT of all people to be free - AT LEAST IN THEIR   
OWN HOMELAND! As Arafat, other arab leaders, AND EVEN       
AMERICANS have learnt,  negotiating a peace WITH Israel, or 
FOR Israel, is an expensive and treacherous process.        
Until Israel DEMONSTRATES that it is willing to abandon its 
territorial ambitions, the arabs AND AMERICA would do well  
to withold its concessions, and its aid. Else its just      
throwing good concessions and aid into an Israeli black     
hole.Yes indeed, the Palestinians MUST unite.               


===============   Reply    2 of Note    1 =================

Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    PALESTINIANS UNITE? 

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/24
From:   FCRF11A    DON KORY              Time:    10:17 PM

Casey you are a noisy loser.  So get lost.                  


===============   Reply    3 of Note    1 =================

Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    PALESTINIANS UNITE? 

To:     FCRF11A    DON KORY              Date:    03/24
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:    10:44 PM

I guess being called 'noisy' by an Israel-first Jew is some 
achievement. Ive been around you guys too long, and am just 
a product of my environment.  I learnt how to argue at the  
knee of an argumentative zionist, now the Jews dont like me.
                                                            
Pity.                                                       


===============   Reply    4 of Note    1 =================

Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    PALESTINIANS UNITE? 

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/24
From:   UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Time:    10:52 PM

Ive been instructed to revise my last note.                 
                                                            
Where I said, "Now the Jews dont like me"                   
                                                            
I must now change to                                        
                                                            
              "Now SOME Jews dont like me"                  
                                                            
                                                            
Thanks a lot sweetheart.                                    


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Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    PALESTINIANS UNITE? 

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/25
From:   YJWA54A    JOSEPH WEISS          Time:     6:17 AM

What`s not to like?                                         
You`re a tremendous asset!                                  
Keep up the good work!                                      
                                                            
                       Joe                                  


===============   Reply    6 of Note    1 =================

Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    PALESTINIANS UNITE? 

To:     UTPJ62A    V CASEY               Date:    03/25
From:   FCRF11A    DON KORY              Time:     3:15 PM

I seriously doubt that they would accept you in the West    
Bank, say Hebron -- unless of course you may want to try    
becoming a human bomb.  So far V. Casey, you are the only   
one writing as a "champion" of the Palestinian cause.  I    
really wonder why they haven't joined in to defend both you 
and their own position.  I also wonder if you have ever set 
foot in the Middle East, ANYWHERE!  North Africa? probably  
not.  I wonder if you have ever been out of town.  Do you   
have any Jewish friends?  Do you know any other than        
through this board?  Of course you won't answer most of     
these questions.  Yours is to spout platitudes, sarcasms,   
etc. I am tired of someone known as Casey, an anti-Semite   
who is now using the Palestinians' cause to spout the same  
old venom.  Maybe the suggestion of becoming a human bomb   
is not a bad one -- only if you do it in an open field in   
the middle of the Sahara Desert.  Your words, like "pity"   
show the lack of intelligence and inability to truly answer 
any good legitimate question, no matter what the source.    
Now before you judge whether my questions are good and      
legitimate, go find a Muslim professor or a Hindu or        
someone on a neutral ground and quit being your own judge   
and jury.  Your judgement has even fallen below your        
ability write well.  You are not even within 1 light year   
of William Safire who is far better at the language than I. 
 When one stoops to becoming a spelling champ in these      
World Politics matters, he has nothing really to say.  That 
is probably the fact.  In addition, I have nothing to       
say, at least to the likes of a meatball rolling down an    
inclined plane.                                             


===============   Note     2              =================

Board:      NEWS BB           
Topic:      WORLD POLITICS      
Subject:    PALESTINIANS UNITE? 

To:                ALL                   Date:    03/25
From:   FCRF11A    DON KORY              Time:     8:34 AM

Please, any Palestinians out there who are discouraged by   
those meatballs who pretend to defend them, speak up for    
yourselves.  It is interesting that Palestinians on this    
board, if any, have not spoken up where their meatball      
defender, whose name is unmentionable here, continues to    
cry the screams of Hamas militants.  You see, should one    
wonder how meatballs are motivated -- they are placed at    
the top of an inclined plane and let go.  The typical       
meatball either gets personal with me and calls me names,   
most of which I have been called before by more expert      
meatballs or screams the platitudes of a victim when not    
even one sho can claim being a REAL victim.  Aren't there   
any REAL Palestinians out there who will speak.  Do not let 
these meatball "defenders" of you and yours speak for you   
for all the meatball answers are the same platitudes, ad    
ridiculum,  ad nauseum.  Answers from meatballs will not be 
accepted, though it is obvious the meatballs are on a roll. 



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