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From: holman@mappi.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman)
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Subject: Re: Saturday chuckle!
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 05:23:57 +0300
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In article <42A2448C.8010407@localnet.com>, "Dr. Anthony J. Lomenzo"
 wrote:


> 
> I've got to go with Verdi simply because there is more Verdi than 
> Puccini but my overall favorite is Mozart with "Le Nozze di Figaro" 
> coming in first [Glyndebourne '73 production with Skatt, Cotrubas, 
> Luxon, Kanawa, Von Stade ET AL] plus his other biggies and then a mixed 
> bag of others [Bizet, Rossini [Watch now, Steve Wolk, 
> "Fiiiiiiiiiiii-garrrrrr-ohhhhhhhhhhhhh .... Figaro, Figaro, Figaro 
> [with, IMHO, John Rawnsley as the best "barbiere di qualita...."], ET AL 
> and of course my "3,7, Ace" riddle opera, Tchaikovsky's "Pique Dame." 
> Traditional opera only tho' ....not those 'updates' or what I consider 
> to be Calixto Bieito butcheries! Don Giovanni [per Bieito in his 2004 
> ENO farce where Mozart would no doubt have have fainted] whizzing on 
> stage while mimicking fornication with the cast and assorted sexual acts 
> and drug/alcohol shoot-ups is not my idea of opera. Bieito however seems 
> to relish patron walk-outs, shouts of "TRASH" or protracted Booing as an 
> apparent barometer of 'success' of his "productions" or, as I would term 
> same, his ventures into pseudo-operatic excrement.


Suggestions:

Lully: Atys
Campra: Idoménée
Charpentier: Médée 
Handel: Julius Caesar
Handel: Rinaldo
Handel: Saul [an oratorio with an operatic plot]
Handel: L'allegro, il penseroso ed il moderato
Glück: Orpheus und Eurydike/Orfeo ed Eurydice
Glück: Alceste
Mozart: Die Entführung aus dem Serail
Mozart: Die Zauberflöte
Beethoven: Fidelio

Regards,
Eugene Holman


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From: holman@mappi.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman)
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Subject: Re: Saturday chuckle!
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 10:26:28 +0300
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In article <42A27B2D.6060508@localnet.com>, "Dr. Anthony J. Lomenzo"
 wrote:

> Eugene Holman wrote:
> > In article <42A2448C.8010407@localnet.com>, "Dr. Anthony J. Lomenzo"



> > Suggestions:
> > 
> > Lully: Atys
> > Campra: Idoménée
> > Charpentier: Médée 
> > Handel: Julius Caesar
> > Handel: Rinaldo
> > Handel: Saul [an oratorio with an operatic plot]
> > Handel: L'allegro, il penseroso ed il moderato
> > Glück: Orpheus und Eurydike/Orfeo ed Eurydice
> > Glück: Alceste
> > Mozart: Die Entführung aus dem Serail
> > Mozart: Die Zauberflöte
> > Beethoven: Fidelio
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Eugene Holman
> 
> 
> Thank you, Eugene. Already have and saw Die Zauberflöte [PA! PA PA! PA 
> PA PA PA PA PA PA PAHHHHHH!]and "Die Entführung aus dem Serail" [Look 
> for Joe Bellinger playing the stuffed "crock" [!] in the moat! ;-)  ]
> Recently enjoyed Rossini's "La Cenerentola" with Cecilia Bartoli as 
> Angelina and Verdi's "Rigoletto"  with this time Domingo as Il Duca di 
> Mantova and [excellently played] Cornell Macneil as Rigoletto.
> 
> Fidelio [Herr B's only opera] should be arriving within the week.
> 
> And you .... any particular favorite? Opera or classical music pieces?

I am a Handel/Bach man.

Right now I am listening to Handel's Saul, one of my absolute favorite
pieces of music. Another favorite, in quite a different mood and style, is
the sublime duet "As steals the morn upon the night" from Handel's
*L'allegro, il penseroso ed il moderato*. Bach's B-minor mass, St. Matthew
Passion, and the cantatas, particularly cantatas 1, 19, 23, 34, 50, 51,
78, 79, 80, 82, 106, 130, 140, 147, 208, and 211. If I were to boil this
down to the essentials, what would remain are the duet "Wir eilen mit
schwachen doch emsigen Schritten" from cantata 78 and the aria "Schlummert
ein" from contata 82. I also enjoy the music of a few lesser known
composers, such as André Campra, William Boyce, John Stanley, and Johan
Helmich Roman

For an emotional experience that will leave you unnerved, see a good
performance of Beethoven's *Fidelio*. The plot is trite, but the music
and, if done well, the performance, can and usually are electrifying.

I don't play any instrument, but have been interested in the history and
social function of music, particularly 18th century German and English
music, since childhood. I have taught courses on Handel's English-language
oratorios as an option in our department's cultural studies program.

Regards,
Eugene Holman


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From: holman@mappi.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman)
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Subject: Re: Saturday chuckle!
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 09:01:41 +0300
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In article <9eOdnQuWFYYzCz7fRVn-sQ@comcast.com>, "steve wolk"
 wrote:



> 
> For some reason, I have never been fond of Boris.  Different strokes, I 
> suppose.

Ivan was terrible, Alexander was great, and Boris good enough.

Regards,
Eugene Holman

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