From qut@netcom.com Wed Jun 5 20:45:08 PDT 1996 Article: 57576 of control Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!op.net!en.com!in-news.erinet.com!bug.rahul.net!rahul.net!a2i!ns2.mainstreet.net!viper.inow.com!newshub.internex.net!newshub1.internex.net!news.Stanford.EDU!usenet From: qut@netcom.com Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel,alt.binaries.pictures.erotica Subject: cmsg cancelControl: cancel Date: 4 Jun 1996 03:52:46 GMT Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Lines: 1 Sender: qut@netcom6.netcom.com Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: networking.stanford.edu X-No-Archive: yes cancel From qut@netcom.com Tue Jun 11 19:23:35 PDT 1996 Article: 42652 of alt.revisionism Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,alt.flame.dan.gannon.nazi.scum Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news2.bctel.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.emf.net!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.coast.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!pacbell.com!amdahl.com!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!netcom.com!news.feline.net!speaker.org From: Don't Read Subject: We Love You, McVay Message-ID: Ftp: ftp.netcom.com/pub/qu/qut/ Sender: qut@netcom23.netcom.com Reply-To: qut@netcom.com Http: www.stanford.edu/~llurch/potw2/skippy Organization: Qut X-No-Archive: yes Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 01:56:54 GMT Lines: 33 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.revisionism:42652 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1383 soc.culture.jewish:56259 soc.culture.israel:36089 alt.flame.dan.gannon.nazi.scum:78 I agree 100% with you that Katz, Morrison, Rosenberg, Littan, Curtis, Graves, Alstine, Mcfee, Silverman, Keren, Edeiken, Morris, McCarthy, Finsten, Lambert, etc. are such an embarrassment to your work, that they should be kept off the Nizkor server as much as possible to protect the image of Holocaust scholars, as well as avoiding legal risks. There is actually a serious threat of your being arrested by the Canadian and German governments if they smell a double-cross, considering the mass flooding by your server of illegal information. You might want to modify your statement, that all criminals should be prosecuted, considering your own shakey legal status. But we keep wondering: Where oh where are the actual anti-revisionists, you know the actual researchers, I mean we're getting a little sick and tired of the shills. Maybe you should change your mind about advising historians to avoid usenet like the plague, stating that the knaves are all that's needed to stop anti-semitism. -- Kill Your Television -- Kill Your Television From qut@netcom.com Thu Jun 20 11:28:50 PDT 1996 Article: 68397 of control Newsgroups: control,your,junk,alt.culture.internet,alt.culture.usenet,alt.internet.media-coverage Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ixnews1.ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!news.feline.net!speaker.org From: Slacker Subject: Re: A Reckoning Message-ID: Followup-To: control,your,junk Ftp: ftp.netcom.com/pub/qu/qut/ Sender: qut@netcom7.netcom.com Reply-To: qut@netcom.com Http: www.stanford.edu/~llurch/potw2/skippy Organization: Qut X-No-Archive: yes References: Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:26:59 GMT Lines: 24 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca control:68397 junk:435917 alt.culture.internet:18186 alt.culture.usenet:24906 alt.internet.media-coverage:16105 In modemac@netcom.com (Modemac) writes: ! Milton Kleim (bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote: ! : I am certain to be denounced as a "race-traitor" by many of my so-called ! : "friends" for these statements. That's OK; they have a right to their ! : opinion, as I and my Winchester have a right to mine. ! ! This has nothing to do with alt.internet.media-coverage, which is intended ! for discussion of how the Internet is covered by the major mass media ! (radio, TV, newspapers, magazines). Followups are directed to the ! appropriate group. This is hypocritical of you considering you had no problem with the anti-racist spam concerning the rec.music.white-power CFV in israel.gayjews,comp.unix.shell,soc.culture.israel,alt.flame,alt.2600, news.admin.policy,rec.music.klezmer,alt.slack,alt.religion.scientology, alt.atheism and scores of other groups I sometimes read. ! -- ! Reverend Modemac (modemac@netcom.com) ! First Online Church of "Bob" "There is no black and white." ! 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From qut@netcom.com Fri Jun 21 12:42:13 PDT 1996 Article: 16105 of alt.internet.media-coverage Newsgroups: control,your,junk,alt.culture.internet,alt.culture.usenet,alt.internet.media-coverage Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ixnews1.ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!news.feline.net!speaker.org From: Slacker Subject: Re: A Reckoning Message-ID: Followup-To: control,your,junk Ftp: ftp.netcom.com/pub/qu/qut/ Sender: qut@netcom7.netcom.com Reply-To: qut@netcom.com Http: www.stanford.edu/~llurch/potw2/skippy Organization: Qut X-No-Archive: yes References: Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:26:59 GMT Lines: 24 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca control:68397 junk:435917 alt.culture.internet:18186 alt.culture.usenet:24906 alt.internet.media-coverage:16105 In modemac@netcom.com (Modemac) writes: ! Milton Kleim (bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote: ! : I am certain to be denounced as a "race-traitor" by many of my so-called ! : "friends" for these statements. That's OK; they have a right to their ! : opinion, as I and my Winchester have a right to mine. ! ! This has nothing to do with alt.internet.media-coverage, which is intended ! for discussion of how the Internet is covered by the major mass media ! (radio, TV, newspapers, magazines). Followups are directed to the ! appropriate group. This is hypocritical of you considering you had no problem with the anti-racist spam concerning the rec.music.white-power CFV in israel.gayjews,comp.unix.shell,soc.culture.israel,alt.flame,alt.2600, news.admin.policy,rec.music.klezmer,alt.slack,alt.religion.scientology, alt.atheism and scores of other groups I sometimes read. ! -- ! Reverend Modemac (modemac@netcom.com) ! First Online Church of "Bob" "There is no black and white." ! PGP Key Fingerprint: 47 90 41 70 B4 5B 06 90 7B 38 4E 11 8A ED 80 DF ! URL: http://www.tiac.net/users/modemac/ ! (FINGER modemac@netcom.com for a FREE SubGenius Pamphlet!) Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel,soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,alt.flame.dan.gannon.nazi.scum Path: news.voyager.net!aanews.merit.net!imci3!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!pacbell.com!amdahl.com!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!netcom.com!news.feline.net!speaker.org From: Don't Read Subject: We Love You, McVay Message-ID: Ftp: ftp.netcom.com/pub/qu/qut/ Sender: qut@netcom23.netcom.com Reply-To: qut@netcom.com Http: www.stanford.edu/~llurch/potw2/skippy Organization: Qut X-No-Archive: yes Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 01:56:54 GMT Lines: 33 Xref: news.voyager.net alt.revisionism:46617 soc.culture.jewish:103117 soc.culture.israel:37924 I agree 100% with you that Katz, Morrison, Rosenberg, Littan, Curtis, Graves, Alstine, Mcfee, Silverman, Keren, Edeiken, Morris, McCarthy, Finsten, Lambert, etc. are such an embarrassment to your work, that they should be kept off the Nizkor server as much as possible to protect the image of Holocaust scholars, as well as avoiding legal risks. There is actually a serious threat of your being arrested by the Canadian and German governments if they smell a double-cross, considering the mass flooding by your server of illegal information. You might want to modify your statement, that all criminals should be prosecuted, considering your own shakey legal status. But we keep wondering: Where oh where are the actual anti-revisionists, you know the actual researchers, I mean we're getting a little sick and tired of the shills. Maybe you should change your mind about advising historians to avoid usenet like the plague, stating that the knaves are all that's needed to stop anti-semitism. -- Kill Your Television -- Kill Your Television From qut@netcom.com Sat Jun 29 11:19:18 PDT 1996 Article: 59073 of soc.culture.jewish Newsgroups: alt.flame.dan.gannon.nazi.scum,alt.communism.moderated,alt.politics.radical-left,alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel,soc.culture.jewish,misc.test Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!lll-winken.llnl.gov!news.larc.nasa.gov!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.voicenet.com!news2.noc.netcom.net!noc.netcom.net!netcom.com!news.feline.net!speaker.org!slacker From: Slacker Subject: Differences between Communisism and Socialism Message-ID: Sender: qut@netcom4.netcom.com Organization: Qut Stuff: My censored pageMy pageMy mutilated page X-No-Archive: yes Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:43:51 GMT Approved: Slacker, Moderator of alt.communism.moderated (Moderated) Lines: 60 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.flame.dan.gannon.nazi.scum:91 alt.politics.radical-left:100850 alt.revisionism:46723 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1564 soc.culture.jewish:59073 misc.test:80393 In <4pd1k1$fp8@coconut.epix.net> "Denes S. Varady" writes: ! Does anti-fascim equals semitism? Since Jews would love to be in charge of a society like Fascist Italy, it wouldn't seem correct to equate Judaism with anti-fascism, would it? ! Does semitism equal COMMUNISM??? Yes, in one sense, the Communist party was formed as a pro-capitalist party, to provide a weapon to specifically attack non-Jewish business. For instance, one of their scandals, was to order a violent strike against a business, while behind the scenes soliciting bribes from the bosses, to call off the strike, which they did, betraying the workers. No, in the sense that the economic theories were adopted from the Socialists, considerably less vain than Jewish activists tend to be. Socialists were a divided, but essentially honest, power of the international working class, that nonetheless, was white supremacist. For instance the socialists risked their life opposing the first World War, while the Communists joined the ruling class in frothing at the mouth in support of the war, utterly betraying every principle, except, of course, for the race of the leadership. There had never been a war, up to that point, fought so purely for nothing but the fleeting virtues of trade-capital, and the greatest lies told by it's propaganda, about it's actual goal. Whatever you feel about them, there IS a difference among types of capitalists and socialists, and it's not just a matter of degree. Consider the hypothetical idealogical debates between the following: Upton Sinclair and Angela Davis, two international socialists, both with racial prejudice Henry Ford and Harry Oppenheimer, an antisemitic antiwar near the top capitalist, and the richest man in the world, prowar, created wealth through a generation of Apartheid Tom Metzger and Jesse Jackson one socialist, and one widely admired/suspected socialist Jack London and Julius Rosenberg rags to riches through patriotic socialist writings, and a cog in the wheel of a group who stabbed the American working class in the back by granting American nuclear weapon technology to Beria, Kaganovich, and Stalin ! Please advise!! We are so eager to learn.. --Your Welcome ! -- ! ! Denes S. Varady, N3NV __ This is OUR land -- ALL of it From qut@netcom.com Sat Jun 29 13:21:01 PDT 1996 Article: 46723 of alt.revisionism Newsgroups: alt.flame.dan.gannon.nazi.scum,alt.communism.moderated,alt.politics.radical-left,alt.revisionism,alt.fan.ernst-zundel,soc.culture.jewish,misc.test Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!vertex.tor.hookup.net!hookup!lll-winken.llnl.gov!news.larc.nasa.gov!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.voicenet.com!news2.noc.netcom.net!noc.netcom.net!netcom.com!news.feline.net!speaker.org!slacker From: Slacker Subject: Differences between Communisism and Socialism Message-ID: Sender: qut@netcom4.netcom.com Organization: Qut Stuff: My censored pageMy pageMy mutilated page X-No-Archive: yes Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:43:51 GMT Approved: Slacker, Moderator of alt.communism.moderated (Moderated) Lines: 60 Xref: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca alt.flame.dan.gannon.nazi.scum:91 alt.politics.radical-left:100850 alt.revisionism:46723 alt.fan.ernst-zundel:1564 soc.culture.jewish:59073 misc.test:80393 In <4pd1k1$fp8@coconut.epix.net> "Denes S. Varady" writes: ! Does anti-fascim equals semitism? Since Jews would love to be in charge of a society like Fascist Italy, it wouldn't seem correct to equate Judaism with anti-fascism, would it? ! Does semitism equal COMMUNISM??? Yes, in one sense, the Communist party was formed as a pro-capitalist party, to provide a weapon to specifically attack non-Jewish business. For instance, one of their scandals, was to order a violent strike against a business, while behind the scenes soliciting bribes from the bosses, to call off the strike, which they did, betraying the workers. No, in the sense that the economic theories were adopted from the Socialists, considerably less vain than Jewish activists tend to be. Socialists were a divided, but essentially honest, power of the international working class, that nonetheless, was white supremacist. For instance the socialists risked their life opposing the first World War, while the Communists joined the ruling class in frothing at the mouth in support of the war, utterly betraying every principle, except, of course, for the race of the leadership. There had never been a war, up to that point, fought so purely for nothing but the fleeting virtues of trade-capital, and the greatest lies told by it's propaganda, about it's actual goal. Whatever you feel about them, there IS a difference among types of capitalists and socialists, and it's not just a matter of degree. Consider the hypothetical idealogical debates between the following: Upton Sinclair and Angela Davis, two international socialists, both with racial prejudice Henry Ford and Harry Oppenheimer, an antisemitic antiwar near the top capitalist, and the richest man in the world, prowar, created wealth through a generation of Apartheid Tom Metzger and Jesse Jackson one socialist, and one widely admired/suspected socialist Jack London and Julius Rosenberg rags to riches through patriotic socialist writings, and a cog in the wheel of a group who stabbed the American working class in the back by granting American nuclear weapon technology to Beria, Kaganovich, and Stalin ! Please advise!! We are so eager to learn.. --Your Welcome ! -- ! ! Denes S. Varady, N3NV __ This is OUR land -- ALL of it
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