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From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Wed Sep  2 17:03:47 EDT 1998
Article: 270986 of soc.culture.british
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: BECAUSE LEWINSKY, CLINTON STARTS WORLD WAR III
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Oh, come on.  I am NOT a clinton fan, but get real.  OTOH, we
have not had a good religious war recently.  

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Thu Sep  3 12:19:57 EDT 1998
Article: 202011 of alt.revisionism
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: The Jews Are Not a Race!
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Of course not.  If Jews were a race, DrLaura could not convert
to being a Jew.  Could she convert to being a negro?  Michael
Jackson has attempted to convert to white.  Did it work?

Who is a Jew?  Is DrLaura?

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Thu Sep  3 12:19:57 EDT 1998
Article: 202012 of alt.revisionism
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: Jews are not Israelites
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In article <1998090302584800.WAA06854@ladder01.news.aol.com>, philnancy@aol.com (PHILNANCY) says:

>What does this have to do with the Holocaust, one of the most 
>documented events in history?

Documented?  You joke.  For every Jew who died, at least 10M
words of holocaust "documentation" has been written.  The main
loss in the holocaust has been truth.

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Thu Sep  3 12:19:58 EDT 1998
Article: 202014 of alt.revisionism
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: Bin-Laden
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In article <904762366snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk (Alexander Baron) says:
>
>Somebody told me that this guy Bin-Laden who Clinton has just 
>bombed was funded by the CIA at one time. Is that true?

Yes, during the Russian occupation of Afghanistan.

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Fri Sep  4 18:12:30 EDT 1998
Article: 202201 of alt.revisionism
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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One can but hope.

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Mon Sep  7 12:18:42 EDT 1998
Article: 85609 of soc.culture.german
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: How big is the Nazi party today?
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In article <905088269.14836.0.nnrp-10.c2de8b1c@news.demon.co.uk>, "yardley"  says:

>I know there are plenty of US nazis....

Perhaps as many as 30.

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Mon Sep  7 12:18:42 EDT 1998
Article: 85610 of soc.culture.german
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: Lets Give The Germans A Break
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In article <35F11208.A9F@netscape.net>, jonah  says:

>The war is long over.  

But people are still profiting from it.  Look at the Swiss
settlement, the suits against German auto companies, the
claims against Swiss insurance companies.  Persecuting 
Germans is *big* business.

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Mon Sep  7 12:18:43 EDT 1998
Article: 85724 of soc.culture.german
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: Lets Give The Germans A Break
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In article <905103992.25146.0.nnrp-06.c2de8b1c@news.demon.co.uk>, "yardley"  says:

>And all those settlements will still not amount to 1% of what was 
>robbed from the jews in Europe. 

If property was taken from you (not your ethnic group) you should
sue that person (not anyone handy from another ethnic group).  If
you like "ethnic rights and obligations" you are asking for another 
pogrom.

GFH




From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Mon Sep  7 12:18:43 EDT 1998
Article: 85725 of soc.culture.german
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: Strange German Nazi delusions
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In article <6su9bf$qad$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, vtailor@my-dejanews.com says:
>
>What I have been trying to understand lately is how Germans could have
>taken Hitler seriously.  

The secret is the oppression visited on Germany by the Treaty
of Versailles.  The Rhineland occupied by French colonial (black)
troops.  Just one of many examples.  Ethnic Germans oppressed in
the newly formed Czechoslovakia and Poland.  Hitler promised to,
and did, correct many wrongs.

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Mon Sep  7 12:18:44 EDT 1998
Article: 85726 of soc.culture.german
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Lets Give The Germans A Break
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In article <35F1A791.342A@netscape.net>, jonah  says:

>Oh please!  How sad that German auto companies should have to pay
>backwages to factory workers.  How sad for Diamler Benz.

But their labor was paid for -- to the SS.  Any issue of back wages
is between the workers and the SS.

>How sad that Swiss Banks should have to pay back interest they earned
>on deposits they claimed were never made.  

It is absurd.  If I put money in a bank, my church has NO claim.

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Wed Sep  9 16:36:17 EDT 1998
Article: 203349 of alt.revisionism
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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How about Michael Jackson?

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Mon Sep 14 21:56:02 EDT 1998
Article: 203636 of alt.revisionism
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: SPIELBERG vs GOLDHAGEN
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Spielberg is a propagandist; not unlike Goebbels.  More clever,
but less honest.

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Tue Sep 15 15:25:31 EDT 1998
Article: 203997 of alt.revisionism
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?
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Yes, quite deliberately.  About 1M held in POW camps.  
(Germans who attempted to feed them were shot.  Yes,
by American GIs.)  The others were civilains, and
include about 2M refugees who were in very poor
condition when they crossed over into cooupied Germany 
and Austria.  

But it is OK.  None were Jews.

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Tue Sep 15 15:25:32 EDT 1998
Article: 203999 of alt.revisionism
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?
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In article <35FE399F.24EEA4A3@rio.com>, Chuck Ferree  says:
>
>The answer to the question is: No the Allies did not starve 
>millions of German POWs, as a matter of fact without the American 
>Marshall Plan, many Germans *would have starved, but we spent 
>billions of $$$$$$  feeding the German people for years.

Total BS.  1) The Marshall Plan began when?  1948?  People eat
every day.  2) Germany got less than $2B in Marshall Plan aid,
which they paid back (the only ones who did) while paying out
$20B in reparations.  Fact: about 10M Germans starved to death
in Allied hands (non-USSR hands).

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Wed Sep 16 12:18:13 EDT 1998
Article: 204293 of alt.revisionism
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?
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In article , mvanalst@netmail.!spam!home.com (Mark Van Alstine) says:
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>> Yes, quite deliberately.  About 1M held in POW camps.  
>
>Tsk tsk, Georgie! Have you already forgotten the drubbing you took in
>soc.history.war.world-war-ii on this? Evidently so.


All I found was denial.  Very common for you.  Facts are not; denial
is.  As I suggested at the time, read "Crimes and Mercies".  You do
not because you know 1) it is true and 2) you cannot refute it.

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Wed Sep 16 12:18:14 EDT 1998
Article: 204295 of alt.revisionism
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?
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In article , mvanalst@netmail.!spam!home.com (Mark Van Alstine) says:

>Bacque's "other losses" was nothing more than a malicious (snip of bs)
>An excellent collection of the essays that did so can be found
>in Ambrose and Bischoff's _Eisenhower and the POWs_. 

Yes, a great book, as it proves my case.  In 1987 Bacque wrote "Other
Losses" showing about 1M German POWs died in Allied hands.  So in
1990, Ambrose, to save Ike's reputation, assembled a 'refute Bacque'
conference; the book come from that conference.  The book agrees with
Bacque that about 1.5M German POWs died.  It says that the USSR was
responsible for almost all of them.  But, now the USSR files are
open.  They killed off 456K POWs.  So now both Bacque and Ambrose
agree.  The other 1M died, but not in USSR hands.  Guess whose?

Yes, I know.  No number of German deaths can make up for a single Jew.

GFH
 


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Wed Sep 16 12:31:48 EDT 1998
Article: 86374 of soc.culture.german
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: Lets Give The Germans A Break
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In article <905103992.25146.0.nnrp-06.c2de8b1c@news.demon.co.uk>, "yardley"  says:

>And all those settlements will still not amount to 1% of what was 
>robbed from the jews in Europe. 

If property was taken from you (not your ethnic group) you should
sue that person (not anyone handy from another ethnic group).  If
you like "ethnic rights and obligations" you are asking for another 
pogrom.

GFH




From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Wed Sep 16 12:31:49 EDT 1998
Article: 86376 of soc.culture.german
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: East Germany
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Do not overlook the deliberate elimination of competitive eastern
companies.  Western German companies acquired, and then closed,
companies whose competition they feared.  Just visit Suhl.  The
firearms business was destroyed to keep FWB, RWS, Walther, Anschütz
>from facing the competition.

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Wed Sep 16 16:26:54 EDT 1998
Article: 204350 of alt.revisionism
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: Did someone try to peddle Braque's Folly again? Must be Dan.
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Why does starving Germans make Jews feel good?  Humanity?

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Tue Sep 22 20:47:53 EDT 1998
Article: 205708 of alt.revisionism
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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In article <3607E6C8.91F4BB88@truth.com>, The Truth  says:
>
>be real careful around this bisexual, HIV + pervert.
>and please keep your children away from him.

Oh, come on.  Clinton is not that bad.

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Thu Sep 24 17:40:05 EDT 1998
Article: 86867 of soc.culture.german
From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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In article <3612fa0c.14755551@news.pf.bawue.de>, oliver-gassner@bigfoot.com (Oliver Gassner) says:
>
>Teuer ist Telefon. ich mache sehr viel im netz und habe ca. allein fuer
>online ca. 200 DM Kosten/Monat. 100 DM hat man bald.

Plus a "per minute" charge, nicht wahr?

GFH


From georgeh@mail.rlc.net Fri Sep 25 01:56:39 EDT 1998
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dodont insult the people of this newssgroup with that stupid shit.
Ntgo back to the kkk ng or the shit for brains ng or better yet the inbred
ng.

EL HAQQ
TRUTH





On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Blood Stained Boots wrote:

> El Haqq  The Truth  wrote:
> 
> >exactly what do you mean when you say nigger.
> 
> >EL HAQQ
> >TRUTH
> 
> 
> nigger 2: a member of any dark-skinned race -- usu. taken to be
> offensive  (Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary)
> 
> BSB
> 
> 
> 





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From: georgeh@mail.rlc.net (George F. Hardy)
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Subject: Re: Did someone try to peddle Braque's Folly again? Must be Dan.
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Gord McFee wrote:
> 
> In <36042465.1A19@earthlink.net>, on Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:38:45 -0400,
> "Richard G. Philllips"  wrote:
> 
> > Gord McFee wrote:
> > >
> > > In , on Thu, 17 Sep
> > > 1998 10:09:47 +0200, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman) wrote:
> > >
> > > [deleted]
> > >
> > > > All this would not be so laughable if Mr. Phillips himself, the
> > > > self-admitted grandson of four (4) Russian Jewish immigrants, were not
> > > > himself a member of a minority within one of the minorities which Mr.
> > > > Phillips himself so dislikes. Talk about self-hate!
> > >
> > > With four Jewish grandparents, Mr Phillips surely meets in spades the
> > > Nazi definition of "Jew".  Does this mean that he meets this revolting
> > > description by Adolf Hitler?
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Diese Verpestung unseres Blutes, an der Hunderttausende unseres
> > > Volkes wie blind vorübergehen, wird aber vom Juden heute planmäßig
> > > betrieben. Planmäßig schänden diese schwarzen Völkerparasiten unsere
> > > unerfahrenen, jungen blonden Mädchen und zerstören dadurch etwas, was
> > > auf dieser Welt nicht mehr ersetzt werden kann.
> > >
> > > This contamination of our blood, which hundreds of thousands of our
> > > people blindly ignore, is used by the Jew today according to plan.
> > > These black parasites of the peoples deliberately violate our
> > > inexperienced, young blond girls and thereby destroy something that
> > > cannot be replaced in this world.
> > >
> > > -- Adolf Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, Vol II, pages 629-30
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > Mr Phillips has surely inserted his foot *way* into his mouth this time.
> >
> > ===================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > Welcome to the club.  YOu are having the same problme I had: the >
> > Problem.  that passage was not from me.
> >
> > However, since my cage HAS been rattled, I might point otu that Hitler's
> > concern for racial pollution was no different from that of leading
> > American men at the turn of the century who pleaded not to let our
> > "Nordic gold" be polluted by the lesser breeds swarming to our shores.
> 
> Are you now reversing yourself and saying you do not have Jewish
> grandparents?
================================================
Phillips

My opinions may vary; my grandparents do not because they cannot.  All
four were Russian-Jewish immigrants.
=======================================================
> 
> --
> Gord McFee
> I'll write no line before its time
> 
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In <19980922001503.02489.00003178@ng87.aol.com>, on 22 Sep 1998 04:15:03
GMT, deppitybob@aol.compugeek (DeppityBob) wrote:

> 
> Alexander "May I Have My Rabies Shot Now?" Baron wrote:
> 
> >>
> Is Mr Phillips being attacked simply because he's Jewish, or is it okay to
> attack Jews who hold "incorrect" opinions?<<
> 
> Hmmmm no...he is being disagreed with because he supports Revisionism, a
> fallacious and methodologically untenable view of the events during the World
> War 2 era which have come to be known, collectively, as The Holocaust; and
> because of the incredible dissonance of that position, given that Phillips is
> himself a Jew by Nazi-era definitions, and very likely would have been killed
> by the Einsatzgruppen activities he seeks to deny.

Gee, wish I had said it like that.  :-)  I said it was because he is an
asshole.

-- 
Gord McFee
I'll write no line before its time

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