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From: Alec Grynspan 
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Subject: Re: WHY WE HATE CHRISTIANS, a petition
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Mike Cullinan wrote:
> 
 
> The name of Giwer rings a bell.  When I was attending OU and had
> a fidonet account I ran into him in one of fidonet's
> echoes, DEBATE.  Earnest debaters were posting reams of data
> to him about the Holocaust, which he would dismiss as forgery
> or innuendo.  I had a few brief tangles with him, then realized the
> utter pointlessness of it.  It would be like trying to convince a
> flat-earther that the world is actually a sphere.

Matt was such a perfect example of the idiocy of the denier that Lester
Garrett, the moderator, let him stay in long after someone else would
have been banned.

However, Matt was losing nattles in Smartnet's Soapbox (and admitted
it), Ilink's Opinion and Politics - then Fidonet. The closes that he
ever came to a "win" was in the Dahlman-whining-again war in Controv -
and that was because we propped him up as a lightning rod while we
pushed Dahlman's buttons.

> 
> After that, he tried to take his revisionism to another fidonet
> echo, SCEPTIC.  The moderator told him that the Holocaust was
> not a sceptic issue.  He persisted, and was promptly banned
> from that echo.

Not surprising - Matt was a loser back then, too.

> 
> It's interesting: the characters that are making names for themselves
> on the internet who were once fidonet losers.

Are you really surprised?


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Matt Giwer wrote:

> Revisionists are sneaky bastards, always relying on facts and figures.


Yes, but the rest of the world doesn't have to make them up.



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