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From: "Anarchore" 
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Subject: Rough Day for "human rights"
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:54:44 -0000

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2008/03/really-rough-day-for-canadian-human
.html

Legally, the admission by CHRC investigator Dean Steacy, and the
subsequent cross-examination by Mr. Lemire's lawyers, was the most
significant part of the day, in that it bolstered Mr. Lemire's case
that he should not be held accountable for what others post on his
site, especially if those others are government employees."

This case should be held aloft for all the world to see. Here we have a
group of people, posing as a human rights organization, that has made
huge amounts of money suing various websites over "hate-speech", and
this case has blown the lid off the fact that the members of this
so-called human rights organization, using a false identity, were
planting the very hate speech on websites that they then sued the
webmasters over.

I append another quote from the article...

"It's a given that Mr Lemire must be acquitted, as he can hardly be
held responsible for the wrongful acts of the investigators. We can
also go further, and note that every single prosecution by the
Commission that involves alleged hate on the internet also has to be
voided, as it is impossible to know whether the 'hate' was the work of
the accused or some government employee (we can hardly now rely on the
employees themselves to tell us they had nothing to do with it).
Finally, all the staff of the Commission have to be subject to their
own hate crime investigations, which cannot be held by the Commission
itself (for obvious reasons). Perhaps the government could appoint a
special judge to investigate and prosecute."



On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:14:11 -0400 (EDT), 
<41861d0f9b1ae94d0ccf1d7fc26a9f0c@hermetix.org>, Anonymous 
 wrote:

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:02:20 -0700 (PDT), <5bc37792-6536-4338-940a-
562c646fa36e@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, "Mr. Smartypants"  wrote:

No Warman, No Nazis... and few answers
Published by Connie Fournier at 3:00 pm under Daily News, Extra
Content, Guest Columnists

I was not surprised by the surroundings when I arrived on the 11th
floor of 160 Elgin Street yesterday morning.  It looked like a typical
court room, and plenty of comfortable chairs had been placed at the
back for the good-sized crowd that showed up to watch the proceedings.
I was rather surprised that we were able to enter after a very quick
metal detector sweep, because I had half suspected that efforts would
be made to keep the public from entering the hearing room.
We took our seats near the back beside Kady O'Malley who was live-
blogging for MacLean's magazine.  We were almost directly behind
Charlie Gillis from MacLean's and, I am deducing, based on his
National Post article, that it was Joseph Brean that was sitting
beside Gillis.

Richard Warman logged his 20th consecutive day of
absence from his own case.

The pro-censorship side has been trying to portray supporters of free
speech as racists and Nazi-supporters.  They must have been surprised,
considering that they believe there is an Nazi epidemic in this
country, that the room was filled with respectable looking people who
listened attentively, took notes...or fell asleep.

The most violent action that Joseph Brean could detect in that room
was a poor guy who was 'violently cracking his [own] neck'.  OK.
The hearing got off to a rocky start for the CHRC lawyer, Ms. Blight.

The Chairman, Mr. Hadjis, had received a list of questions from Ms.
Blight that the CHRC had refused to answer in the previous hearing,
citing Section 37 of the Evidence Act.  It was her intention to try to
limit the questions that were asked in this hearing to only the
questions that had been asked before and refused.  The problem with
the document she sent to Mr. Hadjis is that she had helpfully included
the answers she expected the witnesses to give!

>From that point on, Ms. Blight seemed flustered, her face was red, and
it looked like her blood pressure was dangerously elevated.
The first witness was from Bell Canada.  He had been served with a
subpoena asking for the name, address and telephone number of the
person who owned the Bell account where the last post was made by a
pseudonym "Jadewarr", which Dean Steacy (a Commission investigator)
swore under oath was his online identity.

The information provided by the Bell representative was puzzling.  He
claimed that the person who made that post was using a computer at a
private residence on Laurier Avenue West in Ottawa, and that the
owner's name was Nelly Hechme.

Blackberries went on as people in the room started googling the name,
but, at this writing, nobody has been able to find any connection
between 26 year old Nelly Hechme and the Dean Steacy or any other
Commission employee.

The next witness was Hannya Rizk.  She had taken over the Lemire file
>from Dean Steacy when he went on sick leave, but she no longer works
for the Commission.

Both Ms. Blight and the lawyer representing the Attorney General
attempted to limit the questions that could be asked of Commission
employees by the Lemire defense team.  (So much for Stephen Harper's
"arm's length" excuse.)

Rizk testified that she had received training in investigative
techniques so that she could perform her duties at the Commission.
Oddly, the only training she seems to have received is on how to
perform a Whois search and how to do a "Visual Trace Route" search.
Even stranger was the fact that she said she received her "training"
>from Richard Warman...the complainant in this case.

Mr. Hadjis appeared frustrated because, although Ms. Blight admitted
she had met with Hannya Rizk before the hearing so that she could
prepare her, she had not reviewed the file with her so that details
would be fresh in her mind, and she had not brought the relevant
material to the hearing for her.  As a result, most of Ms. Rizk's
answers were, "I don't remember".

One interesting detail was that Rizk was asked why a document she
printed contained the url "the-cloak.com".  This is an online service
that allows the user to mask their IP address when they visit
websites.  Ms. Rizk, despite her investigative training at the hands
of Richard Warman, seemed to have no idea what software she was using,
or why.
The next witness was Dean Steacy.

Mr. Steacy has been blind since 2004, so he normally brings an
assistant with him to read documents for him so that the process can
be streamlined.  Interestingly, the assistant was absent at this
hearing, so all questions had to be prefaced with a detailed
description of the document.
Shortly after the hearing started, Ms. Blight moved over to sit with
Mr. Steacy in order to assist him.

One of the most significant moments in the hearing came when Mr.
Steacy was asked about the identities that he uses online.  He said
that he used Jadewarr (something he had earlier admitted in a sworn
affidavit), and he said he also used another identity called
"oldensrevenge".

But the most shocking revelation was that, despite the fact that his
affidavit stated that only he had used the Jadewarr identity, Dean
Steacy admitted that several Commission employees had access to that
account and that, in fact, he did not have control over it so he had
no idea who had been using it or who could use it.

When Barbara Kulaszka asked Mr. Steacy if the complainant, Richard
Warman, had access to the account password, Mr. Steacy said, "No."  He
quickly corrected himself, however, by saying, "At least I didn't give
it to him."

Further evidence revealed that a document submitted by Richard Warman
showed a login name of Jadewarr.

Miss Kulaszka reminded Mr. Steacy that he had testified earlier that
investigative activities where CHRC operatives signed up on message
boards were "complaint-driven", so she asked him what complaint had
caused him to sign up as a Free Dominion member.  Mr. Steacy first
tried to say that the reason he signed up as Jadewarr on Free Dominion
was because of the complaint lodged by Marie Line Gentes.

Miss Kulaszka reminded him that the Gentes complaint was not filed until
several months after Steacy's online investigation began.  He then
suggested that Ms. Gentes had contacted him about the complaint before
she formally filed it.  He seemed distinctly uncomfortable when Miss
Kulaszka pointed out that the post in the Gentes complaint was not
posted until two weeks after his registration.

Finally, Mr. Steacy said that there had been other inquiries about
filing a complaint with Free Dominion and that is why he had
registered there.  When asked who the potential complainants were, he
shocked the room by stating, "I refuse to answer that question."

Dean Steacy was also asked why he was sending private messages to Marc
Lemire on a US message board.  The messages were concerning a
complaint that Lemire had filed against an Edmonton Police Officer.  A
complaint which, according to a letter Mr. Lemire received from the
Commission, had been refused because it was not properly formatted.
Miss Kulaszka asked Mr. Steacy if he had been trying to bait Mr.
Lemire into saying something negative about Mr. Warman as that would
be considered "retaliation' under the Human Rights Act, and Mr. Warman
has been awarded money in the past from respondents who posted
negative things about him.

"I don't know how much money he's made," snapped Steacy, "it's none of
my business!"

One of the funniest moments occurred when Miss Kulaszka cited a
tribunal transcript called Warman v Warman (Richard Warman v Eldon
Warman - they're not related.)  Mr. Hadjis said, "What are the
chances?"  To which Miss Kulaszka replied dryly, "With the number of
bogus posts on websites these days, it wouldn't even be surprising."
Mr. Hadjis cracked up.

Doug Christie's questions centered around the apparent cooperation
between the CHRC and a number of police agencies.
The Commission had disclosed a series of letters between Harvey
Goldberg (a Commission employee), and several different groups and
individuals.  Many of the names, and some of the text had been blacked
out on the letters.

One of the sources of frustration on the Lemire side was that Ms.
Blight was constantly objecting to questions, jumping up, and even
answering for Mr. Steacy at times as she sat beside him.  Much time
was wasted by these interruptions, and Doug Christie's patience was
obviously wearing thin by the time he began his questioning.

As he was reading the letters, he was rather dryly replacing the
blacked out portions with "blank".  At one point he said, "And this
letter is to who-knows-who, from who-knows-who".  Hadjis started to
laugh about the ridiculousness of it, and ordered that the CHRC
provide less redacted versions of the letters as soon as possible.

The letters, however, contained very disturbing information about the
amount of cooperation that seems be going on between the CHRC and
police organizations.  One case was cited where a police investigation
was initiated against an individual under the hate crimes section of
the Criminal Code. The police raided his house and seized his
computer, the police forensic department obtained the data from his
hard drive and then turned it over to the CHRC without pursuing
criminal charges.  This maneuver allowed the CHRC to obtain
information that they were not mandated to receive.

Christie produced letters that talked about Memoranda of Understanding
between the CHRC, the RCMP, and various police departments.  Yet, Mr.
Steacy continued to assert that there was no formal or informal
agreement between the CHRC and any police department.

Particularly disturbing was a letter outlining a conference on hate
that was attended by CHRC investigators, along with representatives
>from several police organizations, the RCMP and CSIS.

When asked directly if he had ever received information from the
police in his investigations, Steacy stated that he had done so about
"a dozen times".

Things got a little heated near the end when Mr. Christie blew up at
Ms. Blight for objecting to his questions before they were asked.  He
said he did not come 4000 miles at his own expense to have her waste
the little time he had to ask his questions.  Even Mr. Hadjis appeared
to have had enough of her by that point because shortly after that she
stood up and he just pointed at her and said loudly, "No!  Sit
down!".  She didn't, though.

As things were winding down, Ms. Blight brought in a handful of cover
letters for documents that she said were in the file for the complaint
that Marc Lemire had filed against the police officer.  She said the
dates showed that, despite the fact Lemire had received a letter
saying they case had been rejected, it was still open when Steacy
tried to engage him in conversation about it.  She said that Mr.
Lemire received additional correspondence from the commission after
that letter, but Mr. Lemire denied receiving it.

This struck a chord with us because we did not receive the first few
pieces of communication that were sent to Free Dominion by the
Commission when Marie Line Gentes filed her complaint.
The hearing ended shortly after.

The feeling in the tribunal room was positive and secure.  Despite the
fact that Warren Kinsella and other pro-censorship bloggers seem to
think that Canada is being over-run by Nazis, there was not one person
in that room wearing a Swastika or a uniform, or behaving in a racist
or threatening way.

During the breaks the journalists mingled with Marc Lemire's
supporters, and the sky didn't fall.  As far as I know the issue of
race didn't even come up in the discussion amongst the attendees, and
the discussions that were taking place between people of all stripes
were free and open.

Right now people from all walks of life are being forced to cooperate
to confront this threat to our freedom.  When it is all over, we will
use that freedom to debate our own point of view and attempt to change
people's minds using logic and reason.
Because that is the way it is supposed to be.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Immer die verfluechte Juden seit 2000 Jahren! Vergiss niemals die verfluechte
Juden.

>On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:45:26 -0400, in alt.revisionism Gallows Cheater
> wrote:

>http://www.rense.com/general34/ZAND.HTM

>Zionism And The Third Reich
>By Mark Weber
>Institute for Historical Review
>2-8-3

>Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German
>port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel
>Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the
>ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member.
>Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic
>combination as a "metaphysical absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one
>vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging
>collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.

>Common Aims

>Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
>the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
>non-Jewish society? During the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National
>Socialists shared similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue.
>They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities,
>and that Jews did not belong in Germany. Jews living in the Reich were
>therefore to be regarded not as "Germans of the Jewish faith," but rather
>as members of a separate national community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism)
>also implied an obligation by Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine,
>the "Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
>Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any
>other "foreign" country.
> 
>Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained that
>anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
>understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes.
>The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize reality and live in
>a separate state of their own. "The Jewish question exists wherever Jews
>live in noticeable numbers," he wrote in his most influential work, The
>Jewish State. "Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving
>Jews ... I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex
>phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear."
>The Jewish question, he maintained, is not social or religious. "It is a
>national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
>political issue ..." Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews
>constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a
>Volk.2 Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered the world a welcome "final solution of
>the Jewish question."3
> 
>Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of Germany (by
>far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a detailed
>memorandum to the new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and
>formally offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question."
>The first step, it suggested, had to be a frank recognition of fundamental
>national differences: 4
> 
>Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which
>consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of
>an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own tradition.
>Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist
>trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear ...
> 
>Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is
>now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national
>character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
>Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense
>of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its
>existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era
>must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective
>responsibility ...
> 
>We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that can,
>through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a
>decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be
>dealt with by most European peoples ...
> 
>Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere
>relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities.
>Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we,
>too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the
>Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we -- having
>been brought up in the German language and German culture -- can show an
>interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and
>internal sympathy ...
> 
>For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of
>even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with
>the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem
>whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially
>the German people ... Boycott propaganda -- such as is currently being
>carried on against Germany in many ways -- is in essence un-Zionist,
>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build ...
> 
>We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue
>to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages
>result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples.
>The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
>proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a Jewish
>problem and desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this
>purpose Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether
>pro- or anti-Jewish, because, in its view, we are dealing here with a
>concrete rather than a sentimental problem, the solution of which all
>peoples are interested."5 A young Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz, who later
>settled in the United States and became head of the American Jewish
>Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that the National
>Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the Jews." He
>explained: "No subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we
>desire a new concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6
> 
>Active Collaboration
> 
>On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood,
>National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what each group
>believed was in its own national interest. As a result, the Hitler
>government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine
>from 1933 until 1940-1941, when the Second World War prevented extensive
>collaboration.
> 
>Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews, probably a
>majority, continued to regard themselves, often with considerable pride, as
>Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about pulling up roots to begin a new
>life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews turned
>to Zionism during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement
>flourished in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist
>Federation's bi-weekly Jüdische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist
>books were published. "Zionist work was in full swing" in Germany during
>those years, the Encyclopaedia Judaica notes. A Zionist convention held in
>Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its composition the vigorous party life of
>German Zionists."7
> 
>The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal
>June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for
>Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage
>emigration of Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased
>Jewish self-awareness. Jewish schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish
>cultural organizations -- in short, everything that would encourage this
>new consciousness and self-awareness - should be promoted, the paper
>recommended.8
> 
>SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt
>Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist
>development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein
>wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin
>daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading "A Nazi
>Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great admiration for the
>pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist
>self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He
>praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
>entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding
>article, "pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of
>the world: the Jewish question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a
>Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the
>joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
>Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS
>security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more
>effectively. 9
> 
>The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support for
>Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be too far
>off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who have been
>lost to it for more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with
>official goodwill, go with them."10 Four months later, a similar article
>appeared in the SS paper: 11
> 
>The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on
>religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the
>racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in
>complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the
>so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around
>the world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
>Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the
>future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
> 
>A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service from
>Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly kosher
>food on its ships, under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12 With
>official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate" Germany's Jews.
>As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his 1985 survey, The Third
>Reich and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
>message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
>Palestine and generally to educate German Jews about Palestine. There was
>considerable pressure to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying
>themselves as Germans and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in
>them." 13
> 
>In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist Federation of
>Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation: "The Gestapo did
>everything in those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine.
>We often received their help when we required anything from other
>authorities regarding preparations for emigration." 14
> 
>At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
>adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and sexual
>relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the Jews an
>alien minority nationality. A few days later the Zionist Jüdische Rundschau
>editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
> 
>Germany ... is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it
>declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the
>Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to
>establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The new
>laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life, its own
>national life. In future it will be able to shape its own schools, its own
>theatre, and its own sports associations. In short, it can create its own
>future in all aspects of national life ...
> 
>Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for itself,
>and is offering state protection for this separate life of the Jewish
>minority: Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be
>encouraged and a contribution will be made to the establishment of more
>tolerable relations between the two nations. Georg Kareski, the head of
>both the "Revisionist" Zionist State Organization and the Jewish Cultural
>League, and former head of the Berlin Jewish Community, declared in an
>interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end of 1935: 16
> 
>For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural affairs
>of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for living
>together without conflict... I have long supported such a separation,
>provided it is founded on respect for the alien nationality. The Nuremberg
>Laws ... seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform entirely
>with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect... This
>interruption of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities,
>which had been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a
>Jewish point of view, entirely welcome.
> 
>Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S. Wise,
>president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress,
>told a New York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the
>Jewish faith, I am a Jew... Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
>Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17 The Interior Ministry's Jewish
>affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard Lösener, expressed support for Zionism in
>an article that appeared in a November 1935 issue of the official
>Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
> 
>If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them were
>settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely resolved
>today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of opposition to the
>ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the Zionists,
>because they realize at once that these laws represent the only correct
>solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation must have its own
>state as the outward expression of its particular nationhood.
> 
>In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
>network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany
>where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
>Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag,
>Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white
>Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel
>was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19
> 
>Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
>underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah
>official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and
>for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the
>Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to
>plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even
>included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in
>clashes with Palestinian Arabs. 21 In the aftermath of the November
>1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly
>helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its
>work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. 22
> 
>Official Reservations
> 
>German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party officials
>were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful Jewish communities
>in the United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
>governments and fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry
>remained implacably hostile toward National Socialist Germany, and as long
>as the great majority of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to
>resettle in the Zionist "promised land," a sovereign Jewish state in
>Palestine would not really "solve" the international Jewish question.
>Instead, German officials reasoned, it would immeasurably strengthen this
>dangerous anti-German campaign. German backing for Zionism was therefore
>limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
>control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
> 
>A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June
>1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not be able to
>absorb all Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional
>power base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served
>as a base for international Communism.24 Reflecting something of a shift in
>official policy, the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937
>for Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
>tension and conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply
>increasing. 25
> 
>A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in spite
>of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would nevertheless be a
>mistake to assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure
>in Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the anti-German
>agitation of international Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation
>of a Palestine Jewish state would help the peaceful development of the
>nations of the world."26 "The proclamation of a Jewish state or a
>Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an internal memorandum by the
>Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would create for Germany a new enemy,
>one that would have a deep influence on developments in the Near East."
>Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
>special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
>legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In January
>1939, Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise
>warned in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
>of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it "would bring an international
>increase in power to world Jewry." 28
> 
>Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938 and, in
>spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and misgivings
>that his policies might contribute to the formation of a Jewish state,
>decided to support Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The
>prospect of ridding Germany of its Jews, he concluded, outweighed the
>possible dangers. 29
> 
>Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic restrictions on
>Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and 1939. In response, the
>SS security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
>Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
>Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several convoys of
>ships succeeded in reaching Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish
>migration, both legal and illegal, from Germany (including Austria) to
>Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and 1939. Another 10,000 Jews were
>scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the outbreak of war in September
>brought the effort to an end. All the same, German authorities continued to
>promote indirect Jewish emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
>Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized
>Zionist "kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to
>operate in Hitler's Germany. 31
> 
>The Transfer Agreement
> 
>The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the
>Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to
>migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
>Haavara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933 following
>talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of
>the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization.
>32
> 
>Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine deposited
>money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to purchase
>German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps, fertilizer, and
>so forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
>Jewish-owned Haavara company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to
>the Jewish emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount
>corresponding to his deposit in Germany. German goods poured into Palestine
>through the Haavara, which was supplemented a short time later with a
>barter agreement by which Palestine oranges were exchanged for German
>timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and other goods. The Agreement
>thus served the Zionist aim of bringing Jewish settlers and development
>capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the German goal of
>freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
> 
>Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated the
>merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine the
>international Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist
>officials reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the
>Haavara arrangement, stressed that the Agreement was not economically
>advantageous to Germany. Arthur Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration
>specialist who had helped negotiate the pact, pointed out that "the
>Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the boycott movement, since no
>new currency will flow into Germany as a result of the agreement..." 33 The
>1935 Zionist Congress, meeting in Switzerland, overwhelmingly endorsed the
>pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the Zionist "shadow government" in
>Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara, which remained in
>effect until the Second World War forced its abandonment.
> 
>Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul General in
>Jerusalem, Hans Döhle, for example, sharply criticized the Agreement on
>several occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the
>foreign exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
>would bring if sold elsewhere. The Haavara monopoly sale of German goods to
>Palestine through a Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and
>Arabs there. Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of
>German markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
>resented the arrangement.34 A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal
>bulletin referred to the "foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from
>the Haavara. 35
> 
>A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry reviewed
>the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that the Haavara
>arrangement has contributed most significantly to the very rapid
>development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided not only the
>largest source of money (from Germany!), but also the most intelligent
>group of immigrants, a nd finally it brought to the country the machines
>and industrial products essential for development." The main advantage of
>the pact, the memo reported, was the emigration of large numbers of Jews to
>Palestine, the most desirable target country as far as Germany was
>concerned. But the paper also noted the important drawbacks pointed out by
>Consul Döhle and others. The Interior Minister, it went on, had concluded
>that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the advantages and
>that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
> 
>Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed the
>policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and each time
>decided to maintain the Haavara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
>Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
> 
>The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer company,
>the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria, through which
>Jews in foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine.
>Almost $900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews
>in Palestine.38 Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish
>emigration concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the
>Ha'avara. In 1937 Poland authorized the Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange")
>transfer company. By late summer 1939, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and
>Italy had signed similar arrangements. The outbreak of war in September
>1939, however, prevented large-scale implementation of these agreements. 39


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Zionism & The Third Reich=ZYD Kollaboraci - Not Just KASTNER Case  - Part 2/2
Vergiss nie - immer die verfluechte Kristmordern Juden/ZYDS!!

>Achievements of Haavara

>Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
>through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about ten
>percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews made up
>about 15 percent of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara
>emigrants transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to
>Palestine. As Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these
>people, especially in the late 1930s, were allowed to transfer actual
>replicas of their homes and factories -- indeed rough replicas of their
>very existence."40
 
>The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the Ha'avara
>between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million pounds or 139.57
>million German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This
>amount included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
>Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41

>Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have flowed
>into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements and special
>international banking transactions. The German funds had a major impact on
>a country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed out.
>Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
>Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile firm. The
>influx of Ha'avara goods and capital, concluded Black, "produced an
>economic explosion in Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in
>the creation of the State of Israel."42
 
>The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
>Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli state. A
>January 1939 German Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some
>misgiving, that "the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through
>the Ha'avara agreement] contributed to no small extent to the building of a
>Jewish state in Palestine."43
 
>Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this view in
>a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972: "The economic
>activity made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara
>transfers to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for
>the country's development. Many new industries and commercial enterprises
>were established in Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are
>enormously important even today in the economy of the State of Israel owe
>their existence to the Haavara."44
 
>Dr. Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the 1930s,
>later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
>immigrants "decisively contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and
>educational development of Palestine's Jewish community.45

>The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of cooperation
>between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism. Through this pact,
>Hitler's Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to
>support Jewish development in Palestine.
 
>Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
 
>In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization submitted a
>formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a military-political
>alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made by the radical
>underground "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi
>or Stern Gang. Its leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the
>radical nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi)
>over the group's attitude toward Britain, which had effectively banned
>further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern regarded Britain as the main
>enemy of Zionism.

>This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish question in
>Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in the war on the
>side of Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46
 
>In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
>Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe requires
>as a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question by evacuation.
>("Jew-f ree Europe")
 
>The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
>solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
>achieved is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
>Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state in its
>historical boundaries.

>The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the Israel
>Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun
>Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this way and thus completely
>liberate the Jewish people forever.
 
>The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
>government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany and
>the Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
 
>1. Common interests can exist between a European New Order based on the
>German concept and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as
>embodied by the NMO.
 
>2. Cooperation is possible between the New Germany and a renewed, folk
>ish-national Jewry [Hebr_ertum].
 
>3. The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and
>totalitarian basis, and bound by treaty with the German Reich, would be in
>the interest of maintaining and strengthening the future German position of
>power in the Near East.

>On the basis of these considerations, and upon the condition that the German
>Reich government recognize the national aspirations of the Israel Freedom
>Movement mentioned above, the NMO in Palestine offers to actively take part
>in the war on the side of Germany.
 
>This offer by the NMO could include military, political and informational
>activity within Palestine and, after certain organizational measures,
>outside as well. Along with this the Jewish men of Europe would be
>militarily trained and organized in military units under the leadership and
>command of the NMO. They would take part in combat operations for the
>purpose of conquering Palestine, should such a front by formed.
 
>The indirect participation of the Israel Freedom Movement in the New Order
>of Europe, already in the preparatory stage, combined with a
>positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem on the basis of
>the national aspirations of the Jewish people mentioned above, would
>greatly strengthen the moral foundation of the New Order in the eyes of all
>humanity.

>The cooperation of the Israel Freedom Movement would also be consistent with
>a recent speech by the German Reich Chancellor, in which Hitler stressed
>that he would utilize any combination and coalition in order to isolate and
>defeat England.

>There is no record of any German response. Acceptance was very unlikely
>anyway because by this time German policy was decisively pro-Arab.47
>Remarkably, Stern's group sought to conclude a pact with the Third Reich at
>a time when stories that Hitler was bent on exterminating Jews were already
>in wide circulation. Stern apparently either did not believe the stories or
>he was willing to collaborate with the mortal enemy of his people to help
>bring about a Jewish state. 48
 
>An important Lehi member at the time the group made this offer was Yitzhak
>Shamir, who later served as Israel's Foreign Minister and then, during much
>of the 1980s and until June 1992, as Prime Minister. As Lehi operations
>chief following Stern's death in 1942, Shamir organized numerous acts of
>terror, including the November 1944 assassination of British Middle East
>Minister Lord Moyne and the September 1948 slaying of Swedish United
>Nations mediator Count Bernadotte. Years later, when Shamir was asked about
>the 1941 offer, he confirmed that he was aware of his organization's
>proposed alliance with wartime Germany. 49
 
>Conclusion

>In spite of the basic hostility between the Hitler regime and international
>Jewry, for several years Jewish Zionist and German National Socialist
>interests coincided. In collaborating with the Zionists for a mutually
>desirable and humane solution to a complex problem, the Third Reich was
>willing to make foreign exchange sacrifices, impair relations with Britain
>and anger the Arabs. Indeed, during the 1930s no nation did more to
>substantively further Jewish-Zionist goals than Hitler's Germany.
 
>Notes
 
>1.W. Martini, "Hebr_isch unterm Hakenkreuz," Die Welt (Hamburg), Jan. 10,
>1975. Cited in: Klaus Polken, "The Secret Contacts: Zionism and Nazi
>Germany, 1933-1941," Journal of Palestine Studies, Spring-Summer 1976, p.
>65. 2.Quoted in: Ingrid Weckert, Feuerzeichen: Die "Reichskristallnacht"
>(Tübingen: Grabert, 1981), p. 212. See also: Th. Herzl, The Jewish State
>(New York: Herzl Press, 1970), pp. 33, 35, 36, and, Edwin Black, The
>Transfer Agreement (New York: Macmillan, 1984), p. 73. 3.Th. Herzl, "Der
>Kongress," Welt, June 4, 1897. Reprinted in: Theodor Herzls zionistische
>Schriften (Leon Kellner, ed.), erster Teil, Berlin: Jüdischer Verlag, 1920,
>p. 190 (and p. 139). 4.Memo of June 21, 1933, in: L. Dawidowicz, A
>Holocaust Reader (New York: Behrman, 1976), pp. 150-155, and (in part) in:
>Francis R. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question (Austin:
>Univ. of Texas, 1985), p. 42.; On Zionism in Germany before Hitler's
>assumption of power, see: Donald L. Niewyk, The Jews in Weimar Germany
>(Baton Rouge: 1980), pp. 94-95, 126-131, 140-143.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich
>(Austin: 1985), pp. 1-15. 5.Jüdische Rundschau (Berlin), June 13, 1933.
>Quoted in: Heinz H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (New York:
>Ballantine, pb., 1971, 1984), pp. 376-377. 6.Heinz Höhne, The Order of the
>Death's Head (Ballantine, 1971, 1984), p. 376. 7."Berlin," Encyclopaedia
>Judaica (New York and Jerusalem: 1971), Vol. 5, p. 648. For a look at one
>aspect of this "vigorous life," see: J.-C. Horak, "Zionist Film Propaganda
>in Nazi Germany," Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television, Vol. 4,
>No. 1, 1984, pp. 49-58. 8.Francis R. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
>Palestine Question (1985), pp. 54-55.; Karl A. Schleunes, The Twisted Road
>to Auschwitz (Urbana: Univ. of Illinois, 1970, 1990), pp. 178-181. 9.Jacob
>Boas, "A Nazi Travels to Palestine," History Today (London), January 1980,
>pp. 33-38. 10.Facsimile reprint of front page of Das Schwarze Korps, May
>15, 1935, in: Janusz Piekalkiewicz, Israels Langer Arm (Frankfurt: Goverts,
>1975), pp. 66-67. Also quoted in: Heinz H_hne, The Order of the Death's
>Head (Ballantine, 1971, 1984), p. 377. See also: Erich Kern, ed.,
>Verheimlichte Dokumente (Munich: FZ-Verlag, 1988), p. 184. 11.Das Schwarze
>Korps, Sept. 26, 1935. Quoted in: F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
>Palestine Question (1985), pp. 56-57. 12.Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age
>of the Dictators (1983), p. 83. 13.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
>Palestine Question (1985), p. 60. See also: F. Nicosia, "The Yishuv and the
>Holocaust," The Journal of Modern History (Chicago), Vol. 64, No. 3, Sept.
>1992, pp. 533-540. 14.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine
>Question (1985), p. 57. 15.Jüdische Rundschau, Sept. 17, 1935. Quoted in:
>Yitzhak Arad, with Y. Gutman and A. Margaliot, eds., Documents on the
>Holocaust (Jerusalem: Yad Vashem, 1981), pp. 82-83. 16.Der Angriff, Dec.
>23, 1935, in: E. Kern, ed., Verheimlichte Dokumente (Munich: 1988), p.
>148.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 56.; L. Brenner, Zionism in the
>Age of the Dictators (1983), p. 138.; A. Margaliot, "The Reaction...," Yad
>Vashem Studies (Jerusalem), vol. 12, 1977, pp. 90-91.; On Kareski's
>remarkable career, see: H. Levine, "A Jewish Collaborator in Nazi Germany,"
>Central European History (Atlanta), Sept. 1975, pp. 251-281. 17."Dr. Wise
>Urges Jews to Declare Selves as Such," New York Herald Tribune, June 13,
>1938, p. 12. 18.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich (1985), p. 53. 19.Lucy
>Dawidowicz, The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945 (New York: Bantam, pb.,
>1976), pp. 253-254.; Max Nussbaum, "Zionism Under Hitler," Congress Weekly
>(New York: American Jewish Congress), Sept. 11, 1942.; F. Nicosia, The
>Third Reich (1985), pp. 58-60, 217.; Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement
>(1984), p. 175. 20.H. H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine,
>pb., 1984), pp. 380-382.; K. Schleunes, Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p. 226.;
>Secret internal SS intelligence report about F. Polkes, June 17, 1937, in:
>John Mendelsohn, ed., The Holocaust (New York: Garland, 1982), vol. 5, pp.
>62-64. 21.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 63-64, 105, 219-220. 22.F.
>Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 160. 23.This distinction is also implicit
>in the "Balfour Declaration" of November 1917, in which the British
>government expressed support for "a national home for the Jewish people" in
>Palestine, while carefully avoiding any mention of a Jewish state.
>Referring to the majority Arab population there, the Declaration went on to
>caution, "...it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which
>may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish
>communities in Palestine." The complete text of the Declaration is
>reproduced in facsimile in: Robert John, Behind the Balfour Declaration
>(IHR, 1988), p. 32. 24.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 121. 25.F.
>Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 124. 26.David Yisraeli, The Palestine
>Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Bar-Ilan University, Israel, 1974),
>p. 300.; Also in: Documents on German Foreign Policy, Series D, Vol. 5.
>Doc. No. 564 or 567. 27.K. Schleunes, The Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p.
>209. 28.Circular of January 25, 1939. Nuremberg document 3358-PS.
>International Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before
>the International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg: 1947-1949), vol. 32, pp.
>242-243. Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression (Washington, DC: 1946-1948), vol.
>6, pp. 92-93. 29.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 141-144.; On Hitler's
>critical view of Zionism in Mein Kampf, see esp. Vol. 1, Chap. 11. Quoted
>in: Robert Wistrich, Hitler's Apocalypse (London: 1985), p. 155.; See also:
>F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 26-28.; Hitler told his army adjutant
>in 1939 and again in 1941 that he had asked the British in 1937 about
>transferring all of Germany's Jews to Palestine or Egypt. The British
>rejected the proposal, he said, because it would cause further disorder.
>See: H. v. Kotze, ed., Heeresadjutant bei Hitler (Stuttgart: 1974), pp. 65,
>95. 30.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 156, 160-164, 166-167.; H.
>H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine, pb., 1984), pp. 392-394.;
>Jon and David Kimche, The Secret Roads (London: Secker and Warburg, 1955),
>pp. 39-43. See also: David Yisraeli, "The Third Reich and Palestine,"
>Middle Eastern Studies, October 1971, p. 347.; Bernard Wasserstein, Britain
>and the Jews of Europe, 1939-1945 (1979), pp. 43, 49, 52, 60.; T.
>Kelly, "Man who fooled Nazis," Washington Times, April 28, 1987, pp. 1B,
>4B. Based on interview with Willy Perl, author of The Holocaust Conspiracy.
>31.Y. Arad, et al., eds., Documents On the Holocaust (1981), p. 155. (The
>training kibbutz was at Neuendorf, and may have functioned even after March
>1942.) 32.On the Agreement in general, see: Werner Feilchenfeld, et al.,
>Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (Tübingen: Mohr/Siebeck, 1972).; David
>Yisraeli, "The Third Reich and the Transfer Agreement," Journal of
>Contemporary History (London), No. 2, 1971, pp. 129-148.; "Haavara,"
>Encyclopaedia Judaica (1971), vol. 7, pp. 1012-1013.; F. Nicosia, The Third
>Reich and the Palestine Question (Austin: 1985), pp. 44-49.; Raul Hilberg,
>The Destruction of the European Jews (New York: Holmes and Meier, 1985),
>pp. 140-141.; The Transfer Agreement, by Edwin Black, is detailed and
>useful. However, it contains numerous inaccuracies and wildly erroneous
>conclusions. See, for example, the review by Richard S. Levy in Commentary,
>Sept. 1984, pp. 68-71. 33.E. Black, The Transfer Agreement (1984), pp. 328,
>337. 34.On opposition to the Haavara in official German circles, see: W.
>Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (1972), pp. 31-33.;
>D. Yisraeli, "The Third Reich," Journal of Contemporary History, 1971, pp.
>136-139.; F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question, pp.
>126-139.; I. Weckert, Feuerzeichen (1981), pp. 226-227.; Rolf Vogel, Ein
>Stempel hat gefehlt (Munich: Droemer Knaur, 1977), pp. 110 ff. 35.W.
>Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer (1972), p. 31. Entire text in: David
>Yisraeli, The Palestine Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Israel:
>1974), pp. 298-300. 36.Interior Ministry internal memo (signed by State
>Secretary W. Stuckart), Dec. 17, 1937, in: Helmut Eschwege, ed.,
>Kennzeichen J (Berlin: 1966), pp. 132-136. 37.W. Feilchenfeld, et al,
>Haavara-Transfer (1972), p. 32. 38.E. Black, Transfer Agreement, pp.
>376-377. 39.E. Black, Transfer Agreement (1984), pp. 376, 378.; F. Nicosia,
>Third Reich (1985), pp. 238-239 (n. 91). 40.E. Black, Transfer Agreement,
>p. 379.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich, pp. 212, 255 (n. 66). 41.W. Feilchenfeld,
>et al., Haavara-Transfer, p. 75.; "Haavara," Encyclopaedia Judaica, (1971),
>Vol. 7, p. 1013. 42.E. Black, Transfer Agreement, pp. 379, 373, 382.
>43.Circular of January 25, 1939. Nuremberg document 3358-PS. International
>Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the
>International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg: 1947-1949), Vol. 32, pp.
>242-243. 44.Werner Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina
>(Tübingen: Mohr/Siebeck, 1972). Quoted in: Ingrid Weckert, Feuerzeichen
>(Tübingen: Grabert, 1981), pp. 222-223. 45.W. Feilchenfeld, et al.,
>Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (1972). Quoted in: I. Weckert,
>Feuerzeichen (1981), p. 224. 46.Original document in German Ausw_rtiges Amt
>Archiv, Bestand 47-59, E 224152 and E 234155-58. (Photocopy in author's
>possession).; Complete original German text published in: David Yisraeli,
>The Palestine Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Israel: 1974), pp.
>315-317. See also: Klaus Polkhen, "The Secret Contacts," Journal of
>Palestine Studies, Spring-Summer 1976, pp. 78-80.; (At the time this offer
>was made, Stern's Lehi group still regarded itself as the true Irgun/NMO.)
>47.Arab nationalists opposed Britain, which then dominated much of the Arab
>world, including Egypt, Iraq and Palestine. Because Britain and Germany
>were at war, Germany cultivated Arab support. The leader of Palestine's
>Arabs, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el-Husseini, worked closely
>with Germany during the war years. After escaping from Palestine, he spoke
>to the Arab world over German radio and helped raise Muslim recruits in
>Bosnia for the Waffen SS. 48.Israel Shahak, "Yitzhak Shamir, Then and Now,"
>Middle East Policy (Washington, DC), Vol. 1, No. 1, (Whole No. 39), 1992,
>pp. 27-38.; Yehoshafat Harkabi, Israel's Fateful Hour (New York: Harper and
>Row, 1988), pp. 213-214. Quoted in: Andrew J. Hurley, Israel and the New
>World Order (Santa Barbara, Calif.: 1991), pp. 93, 208-209.; Avishai
>Margalit, "The Violent Life of Yitzhak Shamir," New York Review of Books,
>May 14, 1992, pp. 18-24.; Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the
>Dictators (1983), pp. 266-269.; L. Brenner, Jews in America Today (1986),
>pp. 175-177.; L. Brenner, "Yitzhak Shamir: On Hitler's Side," Arab
>Perspectives (League of Arab States), March 1984, pp. 11-13. 49.Avishai
>Margalit, "The Violent Life of Yitzhak Shamir," New York Review of Books,
>May 14, 1992, pp. 18-24.; Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the
>Dictators (1983), pp. 266-269.; L. Brenner, Jews in America Today (1986),
>pp. 175-177.; L. Brenner, "Skeletons in Shamir's Cupboard," Middle East
>International, Sept. 30, 1983, pp. 15-16.; Sol Stern, L.
>Rapoport, "Israel's Man of the Shadows," Village Voice (New York), July 3,
>1984, pp. 13 ff.

>SSGG - When somebody talks of shutting them down, you get three hundred
>thousand "1st amendment" types jumping to the guy's defense, giving you a
>class on the Bill of Rights - Jacob Baltuch, Brandeis University
>http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/newsreleases/articles/051115chicago.htm


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ZYD Ritual Murder of Children/Ritual Moerder der Kinder von Juden - Documented
No wonder  so many good Christian people really dislike the filthy  ZYDs 
known as Christkillers for more than 2000 years!

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip"
 wrote:

ZYD/JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; 
BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover 
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the 
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk.  Their burnt bodies have been found in 
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many 
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered 
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent 
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic 
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial 
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in 
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of 
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed 
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

"I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring 
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses 
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the 
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the 
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in 
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to 
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the 
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local 
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder 
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor 
overweight among the jury.

"The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the 
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without 
burial", Mr Nazarov said.

"And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the 
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes 
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, 
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the 
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with 
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 


On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:06:27 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>A well researched and documented article,deserving re-posting worldwide.

>On 4 Apr 2007 21:01:42 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "dsfkfnir
>lfdsjsafd"  wrote:

>BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WORKS SUPPORTING
>THE BLOOD ACCUSATION.

>Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band
>of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and
>1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by
>Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century.

> Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher
>(Gaume et Freres, 1845).

> Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler.

> Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice,
>1853-4).

> Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These
>two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent.

> Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill &
>Sons).

> Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913.

> Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563.

> A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into
>England, by William Prynne, 1656.

> Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant.

> Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und
>das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague
>Cathedral.

> La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue
>Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs.

> Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by
>Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is
>devoted to Ritual Murders.

> Le Mystčre du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri
>Desportes, 1889 (Savine).

> Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from
>M. Petit, 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general
>guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was
>Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals.

> Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt.

> Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag).

> Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927.

> Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich
>Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national
>representation of Jewish Ritual Murder."

> Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929.

> Der Stürmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg.
>The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate
>against the editor of Der Stürmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a
>valuable historical record.

> The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W.
>H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898).

> Isabella of Spain, by W. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125,
>439-468, and 628.
>References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder
>are made in the text when describing these cases.

>To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the
>Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion,
>appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C.
>Roth (Woburn Press, 1935)



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NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
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From: "Gnostic" 
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, 
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel 
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- 
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!





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 wrote in message news:f4e119d1-ce2c-47d2-82d9-92d5f9daf703@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Everybody thinks that they know what is justice, but what they
> conceive of as justice is different from place to place. 

There is no justice. 

Judiciary just practice the law (for family cases) based on:

1. "The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as 
a lesbian to be fully feminist." (National NOW Times, Jan.1988).

2. "Since marriage constitutes slavery for women, it is clear that the 
women's movement must concentrate on attacking this institution. Freedom for 
women cannot be won without the abolition of marriage." (radial feminist 
leader Sheila Cronan).

3. "Being a housewife is an illegitimate profession... The choice to serve 
and be protected and plan towards being a family-maker is a choice that 
shouldn't be. The heart of radical feminism is to change that." (Vivian 
Gornick, feminist author, University of Illinois, "The Daily Illini," April 
25, 1981.

4. The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant 
members is to kill it." (Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, in 
"Women and the New Rage," p.67.

5. "In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from 
families and communally raise them." (Dr. Mary Jo Bane, feminist and 
assistant professor of education at Wellesley College and associate director 
of the school's Center for Research on Woman).

6. "Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally 
sanctioned method of control over women... We must work to destroy it. The 
end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the 
liberation of women. Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to 
leave their husbands and not to live individually with men... All of history 
must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to 
ancient female religions like witchcraft." (from "The Declaration of 
Feminism," November 1971).

7. "Overthrowing capitalism is too small for us. We must overthrow the 
whole... patriarch!" (Gloria Steinhem, radical feminist leader, editor of 
'MS' magazine).

8. In response to a question concerning China's policy of compulsory 
abortion after the first child, Molly Yard responded, "I consider the 
Chinese government's policy among the most intelligent in the world." (Gary 
Bauer, "Abetting Coercion in China," The Washington Times", October 10, 
1989).

9. "Let's forget about the mythical Jesus and look for encouragement, solace 
and inspiration from real women... Two thousand years of patriarchal rule 
under the shadow of the cross ought to be enough to turn women toward the 
feminist 'salvation' of this world." (Annie Laurie Gaylor, "Feminist 
Salvation," "The Humanist", July/August 1988, p.37.

10. "By the year 2000 we will, I hope, raise our children to believe in 
human potential, not God." (Gloria Steinhem, editor of 'MS' magazine.)

Source: Center for Children's Justice in Denver, CO (Robert Muchnick) 






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For  the past 2000 years and longer, people all around the world 
have suffered because of the Christkiller ZYDS. 

Never forget what ZYDS have done, and still do. 
No wonder thinking people dislike the  filthy ZYDS so much.


On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:06:32 -0700, Samisdat2 ,  in
wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
> wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZYDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZYD COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

>Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!
>
>More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
>COLLABORATION with the nazis!!
>
>Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
>ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:
>
>It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
>Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
>COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!
>
>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>>> wrote:
>
>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS with
>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>>public.
>
>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.
>
>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
>
>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>> wrote:
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It's no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. 

Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters,
statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
earlier  book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents
Zionist cooperration with the Nazis. 

On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
new Jewish nation. 

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. 
>
>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini's Italy.
>>>Brenner's brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.
>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal?Ha'avara?with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of 'nationality' versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>
>>>And when some asked me: Can't you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>'No!  And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I'm guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don't give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)
>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. 
>
>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,'assimilation' of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level, not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, 'It is impossible for a man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own'
>
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).
>
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN  GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.
>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives 'both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli' in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
># 5                           The Kastner Case
>
>Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS - 1981
>
>Introduction
>
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is 
>that involving Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. 
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that 
>there is some "controversy" about negotiations he undertook 
>for "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military 
>equipment," but that he was "fully rehabilitated" by the
>Supreme Court of Israel.
>
>The Accusations
>
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the 
>British Medical Research Council, was one of the few 
>escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in 
>February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
>
>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - 
>I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly 
>deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to 
>their brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their 
>own lives with the price of silence. 
>
>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
>for all Jews in Hungary. 
>While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is
>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me 
>when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian 
>Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned 
>to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...
>Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, "I know of your plans;
>spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet."
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. 
>uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. 
>
>Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this 
>ittle fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom 
>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the 
>commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off 
>in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for 
>future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's 
>directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. 
>
>This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold 
>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the 
>Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the 
>collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to 
>Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the 
>camps, the price...was not too high for me.
>
>"...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, 
>Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse. 
>While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after 
>another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them 
>with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>"Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for 
>a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...
>
>"As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity 
>between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these 
>immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>blood to achieve his political goal...
>'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have 
>this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great 
>service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I 
>would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner." 
>(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, 
>do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for 
>money and military equipment."
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. 
>When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli 
>citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the 
>Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his 
>views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist 
>official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of 
>Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General 
>of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>-88-
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
>nord@powernetonline.com
>
>
>Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!
>
>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12
>
>The Kastner Case
>-----------------
>Introduction
>
>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all and
>will show that on this question 'The documentation available is overwhelming
>and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks claimed in one of the
>extracts complained about by the VJBD.
>
>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the most
>'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration broadcast
>on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.
>
>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books in as
>evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears strongest,
>and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we hope it may
>become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite what they may have
>appeared before this inquiry began.
>
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>
>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.
>
>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.
>
>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing with
>the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert like Dr.
>Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has been unable to
>find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>----------------
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with the
>price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which
>spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz
>- the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in
>1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized
>representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about
>my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>not too high for me.
>
>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he
>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep
>the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid,
>p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel prosecuted
>Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>------------
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR, has
>been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism, in bad
>taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower these
>few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.



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For  the past 2000 years and longer, people all around the world 
have suffered because of the Christkiller ZYDS. 

Never forget what ZYDS have done, and still do. 
No wonder thinking people dislike the  filthy ZYDS so much.


On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:06:32 -0700, Samisdat2 ,  in
wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
> wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZYDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZYD COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

>Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!
>
>More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
>COLLABORATION with the nazis!!
>
>Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
>ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:
>
>It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
>Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
>COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!
>
>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>>> wrote:
>
>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS with
>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>>public.
>
>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.
>
>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
>
>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>> wrote:
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It's no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. 

Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters,
statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
earlier  book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents
Zionist cooperration with the Nazis. 

On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
new Jewish nation. 

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. 
>
>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini's Italy.
>>>Brenner's brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.
>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal?Ha'avara?with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of 'nationality' versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>
>>>And when some asked me: Can't you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>'No!  And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I'm guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don't give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)
>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. 
>
>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,'assimilation' of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level, not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, 'It is impossible for a man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own'
>
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).
>
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN  GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.
>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives 'both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli' in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
># 5                           The Kastner Case
>
>Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS - 1981
>
>Introduction
>
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is 
>that involving Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. 
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that 
>there is some "controversy" about negotiations he undertook 
>for "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military 
>equipment," but that he was "fully rehabilitated" by the
>Supreme Court of Israel.
>
>The Accusations
>
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the 
>British Medical Research Council, was one of the few 
>escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in 
>February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
>
>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - 
>I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly 
>deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to 
>their brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their 
>own lives with the price of silence. 
>
>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
>for all Jews in Hungary. 
>While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is
>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me 
>when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian 
>Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned 
>to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...
>Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, "I know of your plans;
>spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet."
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. 
>uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. 
>
>Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this 
>ittle fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom 
>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the 
>commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off 
>in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for 
>future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's 
>directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. 
>
>This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold 
>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the 
>Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the 
>collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to 
>Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the 
>camps, the price...was not too high for me.
>
>"...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, 
>Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse. 
>While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after 
>another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them 
>with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>"Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for 
>a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...
>
>"As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity 
>between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these 
>immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>blood to achieve his political goal...
>'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have 
>this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great 
>service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I 
>would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner." 
>(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, 
>do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for 
>money and military equipment."
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. 
>When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli 
>citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the 
>Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his 
>views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist 
>official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of 
>Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General 
>of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>-88-
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
>nord@powernetonline.com
>
>
>Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!
>
>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12
>
>The Kastner Case
>-----------------
>Introduction
>
>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all and
>will show that on this question 'The documentation available is overwhelming
>and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks claimed in one of the
>extracts complained about by the VJBD.
>
>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the most
>'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration broadcast
>on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.
>
>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books in as
>evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears strongest,
>and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we hope it may
>become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite what they may have
>appeared before this inquiry began.
>
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>
>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.
>
>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.
>
>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing with
>the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert like Dr.
>Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has been unable to
>find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>----------------
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with the
>price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which
>spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz
>- the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in
>1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized
>representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about
>my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>not too high for me.
>
>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he
>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep
>the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid,
>p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel prosecuted
>Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>------------
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR, has
>been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism, in bad
>taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower these
>few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.



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Eisenhower's Holocaust & Genocide  - His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million Germans
after WWII.
No wonder most  Germans refuse to support Bush!

From: J Young 
Subject: Eisenhower's Holocaust ......  "God, I hate the Germans..."
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 09:31:34 -0700

Unfortunately, the horrors of WWII continued well after May 8, 1945.

http://www.seanbryson.com/articles/eisenhower.html


On Sun, 13 May 2007 12:17:13 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Micha
 wrote:

"God, I hate the Germans..." (Dwight David Eisenhower in a letter to his 
wife in September, 1944)

First, I want you to picture something in your mind. You are a German 
soldier who survived through the battles of World II. You were not 
really politically involved, and your parents were also indifferent to 
politics, but suddenly your education was interrupted and you were 
drafted into the German army and told where to fight. Now, in the Spring 
of 1945, you see that your country has been demolished by the Allies, 
your cities lie in ruins, and half of your family has been killed or is 
missing. Now, your unit is being surrounded, and it is finally time to 
surrender. The fact is, there is no other choice.

It has been a long, cold winter. The German army rations have not been 
all that good, but you managed to survive. Spring came late that year, 
with weeks of cold rainy weather in demolished Europe. Your boots are 
tattered, your uniform is falling apart, and the stress of surrender and 
the confusion that lies ahead for you has your guts being torn out. Now, 
it is over, you must surrender or be shot. This is war and the real world.

You are taken as a German Prisoner of War into American hands. The 
Americans had 200 such Prisoner of War camps scattered across Germany. 
You are marched to a compound surrounded with barbed wire fences as far 
as the eye can see. Thousands upon thousands of your fellow German 
soldiers are already in this make-shift corral. You see no evidence of a 
latrine and after three hours of marching through the mud of the spring 
rain, the comfort of a latrine is upper-most in your mind. You are 
driven through the heavily guarded gate and find yourself free to move 
about, and you begin the futile search for the latrine. Finally, you ask 
for directions, and are informed that no such luxury exists.

No more time. You find a place and squat. First you were exhausted, then 
hungry, then fearful, and now; dirty. Hundreds more German prisoners are 
behind you, pushing you on, jamming you together and every one of them 
searching for the latrine as soon as they could do so. Now, late in the 
day, there is no space to even squat, much less sit down to rest your 
weary legs. None of the prisoners, you quickly learn, have had any food 
that day, in fact there was no food while in the American hands that any 
surviving prisoner can testify to. No one has eaten any food for weeks, 
and they are slowly starving and dying. But, they can't do this to us! 
There are the Geneva Convention rules for the treatment of Prisoners of 
War. There must be some mistake! Hope continues through the night, with 
no shelter from the cold, biting rain.

Your uniform is sopping wet, and formerly brave soldiers are weeping all 
around you, as buddy after buddy dies from the lack of food, water, 
sleep and shelter from the weather. After weeks of this, your own hope 
bleeds off into despair, and finally you actually begin to envy those 
who, having surrendered first manhood and then dignity, now also 
surrender life itself. More hopeless weeks go by. Finally, the last 
thing you remember is falling, unable to get up, and lying face down in 
the mud mixed with the excrement of those who have gone before.

Your body will be picked up long after it is cold, and taken to a 
special tent where your clothing is stripped off. So that you will be 
quickly forgotten, and never again identified, your dog-tag is snipped 
in half and your body along with those of your fellow soldiers are 
covered with chemicals for rapid decomposition and buried. You were not 
one of the exceptions, for more than one million seven hundred thousand 
German Prisoners of War died from a deliberate policy of extermination 
by starvation, exposure, and disease, under direct orders of the General 
Dwight David Eisenhower.

One month before the end of World War 11, General Eisenhower issued 
special orders concerning the treatment of German Prisoners and specific 
in the language of those orders was this statement,

"Prison enclosures are to provide no shelter or other comforts."

Eisenhower biographer Stephen Ambrose, who was given access to the 
Eisenhower personal letters, states that he proposed to exterminate the 
entire German General Staff, thousands of people, after the war.

Eisenhower, in his personal letters, did not merely hate the Nazi 
Regime, and the few who imposed its will down from the top, but that HE 
HATED THE GERMAN PEOPLE AS A RACE. It was his personal intent to destroy 
as many of them as he could, and one way was to wipe out as many 
prisoners of war as possible.

Of course, that was illegal under International law, so he issued an 
order on March 10, 1945 and verified by his initials on a cable of that 
date, that German Prisoners of War be predesignated as "Disarmed Enemy 
Forces" called in these reports as DEF. He ordered that these Germans 
did not fall under the Geneva Rules, and were not to be fed or given any 
water or medical attention. The Swiss Red Cross was not to inspect the 
camps, for under the DEF classification, they had no such authority or 
jurisdiction.

Months after the war was officially over, Eisenhower's special German 
DEF camps were still in operation forcing the men into confinement, but 
denying that they were prisoners. As soon as the war was over, General 
George Patton simply turned his prisoners loose to fend for themselves 
and find their way home as best they could. Eisenhower was furious, and 
issued a specific order to Patton, to turn these men over to the DEF 
camps. Knowing Patton as we do from history, we know that these orders 
were largely ignored, and it may well be that Patton's untimely and 
curious death may have been a result of what he knew about these 
wretched Eisenhower DEF camps.

The book, OTHER LOSSES, found its way into the hands of a Canadian news 
reporter, Peter Worthington, of the OTTAWA SUN. He did his own research 
through contacts he had in Canada, and reported in his column on 
September 12,1989 the following, in part:

"...it is hard to escape the conclusion that Dwight Eisenhower was a war 
criminal of epic proportions. His (DEF) policy killed more Germans in 
peace than were killed in the European Theater."

"For years we have blamed the 1.7 million missing German POW's on the 
Russians. Until now, no one dug too deeply ... Witnesses and survivors 
have been interviewed by the author; one Allied officer compared the 
American camps to Buchenwald."

It is known, that the Allies had sufficient stockpiles of food and 
medicine to care for these German soldiers. This was deliberately and 
intentionally denied them. Many men died of gangrene from frostbite due 
to deliberate exposure. Local German people who offered these men food, 
were denied. General Patton's Third Army was the only command in the 
European Theater to release significant numbers of Germans.

Others, such as Omar Bradley and General J.C.H. Lee, Commander of Com Z, 
tried, and ordered the release of prisoners within a week of the war's 
end. However, a SHAEF Order, signed by Eisenhower, countermanded them on 
May 15th.

Does that make you angry? What will it take to get the average apathetic 
American involved in saving his country from such traitors at the top? 
Thirty years ago, amid the high popularity of Eisenhower, a book was 
written setting out the political and moral philosophy; of Dwight David 
Eisenhower called, THE POLITICIAN, by Robert Welch. This year is the 
107th Anniversary of Eisenhower's birth in Denison, Texas on October 14, 
1890, the son of Jacob David Eisenhower and his wife Ida. Everyone is 
all excited about the celebration of this landmark in the history of 
"this American patriot." Senator Robert Dole, in honor of the Commander 
of the American Death Camps, proposed that Washington's Dulles Airport 
be renamed the Eisenhower Airport!

The UNITED STATES MINT in Philadelphia, PA is actually issuing a special 
Eisenhower Centennial Silver Dollar for only $25 each. They will only 
mint 4 million of these collector's items, and veteran's magazines are 
promoting these coins under the slogan, "Remember the Man...Remember the 
Times..." Pardon me if I regurgitate!

There will be some veterans who will not be buying these coins. Two will 
be Col. James Mason and Col. Charles Beasley who were in the U.S. Army 
Medical Corps who published a paper on the Eisenhower Death Camps in 
1950. They stated in part:

"Huddled close together for warmth, behind the barbed wire was a most 
awesome sight; nearly 100,000 haggard, apathetic, dirty, gaunt, 
blank-staring men clad in dirty gray uniforms, and standing ankle deep 
in mud ... water was a major problem, yet only 200 yards away the River 
Rhine was running bank-full."

Another Veteran, who will not be buying any of the Eisenhower Silver 
Dollars is Martin Brech of Mahopac, New York, a semi-retired professor 
of philosophy at Mercy College in Dobbs Ferry, NY. In 1945, Brech was an 
18 year old Private First Class in Company C of the 14th Infantry, 
assigned as a guard and interpreter at the Eisenhower Death Camp at 
Andernach, along the Rhine River. He stated for SPOTLIGHT, February 12, 
1990:

"My protests (regarding treatment of the German DEF'S) were met with 
hostility or indifference, and when I threw our ample rations to them 
over the barbed wire. I was threatened, making it clear that it was our 
deliberate policy not to adequately feed them."

"When they caught me throwing C- Rations over the fence, they threatened 
me with imprisonment. One Captain told me that he would shoot me if he 
saw me again tossing food to the Germans ... Some of the men were really 
only boys 13 years of age...Some of the prisoners were old men drafted 
by Hitler in his last ditch stand ... I understand that average weight 
of the prisoners at Andernach was 90 pounds...I have received threats 
... Nevertheless, this...has liberated me, for I may now be heard when I 
relate the horrible atrocity I witnessed as a prison guard for one of 
'Ike's death camps' along the Rhine." (Betty Lou Smith Hanson)

Note: Remember the photo of Ike's West Point yearbook picture when he 
was dubbed "IKE, THE TERRIBLE SWEDISH JEW"? By the way, he was next, or 
nearly so, to the last in his class. This article was first printed in 
1990, but we thought it was meaningful to reprint it now.

Note: During Cadet Eisenhower's time at West Point Academy, Eisenhower 
was summoned to the office of the headmaster and was asked some pointed 
questions. At the time, it was routine procedure to test a cadet's blood 
to insure White racial integrity.

Apparently, there was a question of Eisenhower's racial lineage and this 
was brought to Eisenhower's attention by the headmaster. When asked if 
he was part Oriental, Eisenhower replied in the negative. After some 
discussion, Eisenhower admitted having Jewish background. The headmaster 
then reportedly said, "That's where you get your Oriental blood?" 
Although he was allowed to remain at the academy, word got around since 
this was a time in history when non-Whites were not allowed into the 
academy. Note - The issue of Eisenhower's little-known Jewish background 
in academically essential in understanding his psychopathic hatred of 
German men, women and children.

Later, in Eisenhower's West Point Military Academy graduating class 
yearbook, published in 1915, Eisenhower is identified as a "terrible 
Swedish Jew."

Wherever Eisenhower went during his military career, Eisenhower's Jewish 
background and secondary manifesting behavior was a concern to his 
fellow officers. During World War II when Col. Eisenhower was working 
for Gen. Douglas MacArthur in the South Pacific, MacArthur protested to 
his superiors in Washington (DC) that Eisenhower was incompetent and 
that he did not want Eisenhower on his staff.

In 1943, Washington not only transferred Col. Eisenhower to Europe but 
promoted him over more than 30 more experienced senior officers to five 
star general and placed him in charge of all the US forces in Europe.

Thus it comes as no surprise that General George Patton, a real Aryan 
warrior, hated Eisenhower.

[Ed: Patton was keen to fight the Soviets, and reportedly kept some 
German units ready to move against the Soviets...unsurprisingly he was 
killed; after the war, in a 'car crash,' just like Lawrence of Arabia 
was conveniently bumped off, in a similar manner, for his 'pro-fascist' 
views].


Comment
 From George
12-28-3


Finally, the truth about Ike. He was a zionist!, a racist! and a 
slaughterer of innocents! He was always these things. And all anyone 
remembers is his famous quote "to beware of the military/industrial 
complex." Like this knowledge means he was a great precient prophet, 
when he was really a part of the NWO and helped set the US up for all 
that followed. The tooling jobs and industry started to leave the US in 
the early '50's, when Ike got into power. It was Japan they were 
building. Notice the difference between the destruction of Japan and the 
quick buildup of the Philipines and Japan and the Pacific the US took 
over, after the war of hegemony to steal the wealth of the Pacific Rim 
and present day Afghanistan, Iraq etc., now that the zionists rule the 
'world'. The zionist essence is evil, destructive and self-destructive. 
Ike was a tool of the zionist evil essence.


German POW's Diary Reveals More Of Ike's Holocaust
12-29-3

Note - The following diary extract has been provided by the nephew of 
the author under the conditions we honor his request for anonymity. -ed

A transcript of my Uncle's words...from my Mother's diary:

"Suddenly an American Jeep moved towards us and several American 
Soldiers surrounded us. There was no officer in charge, and the first 
thing the 'Amis' did - they liberated us, I mean, from our few 
valuables, mainly rings and watches........ We were now prisoners of 
war- no doubt about it!

The first night we were herded into a barn, where we met about 100 men 
who shared the same fate. To make my story short, we were finally 
transported to Fuerstenfeldbruck near Munich. Here we, who were gathered 
around Hermann, interrupted him and gasped in dismay.

Fuerstenfeldbruck had become known to us as one of the most cruel POW 
camps in the American zone.

Then my brother continued:

Again we were searched and had to surrender everything, even our field 
utensils, except a spoon. Here, in freezing temperature, 20,000 of us 
were squeezed together on the naked ground, without blanket or cover, 
exposed day and night to the winter weather.

For six days we received neither food nor water! We used our spoons to 
catch drops of rain.

We were surrounded by heavy tanks. During the night bright searchlights 
blinded us, so that sleep was impossible. We napped from time to time, 
standing up and leaning against each other. It was keeping us warmer 
that sitting on the frozen ground.

Many of us were near collapse. One of our comrades went mad, he jumped 
around wildly, wailing and whimpering. he was shot at once. His body was 
lying on the ground, and we were not allowed to come near him. He was 
not he only one. Each suspicious movement caused the guards to shoot 
into the crowd, and a few were always hit.

German civilians, mainly women of the surrounding villages, tried to 
approach the camp to bring food and water for us prisoners. they were 
chased away.

Our German officers could finally succeed to submit an official protest, 
particularly because of the deprivation of water. As a response, a fire 
hose was thrown into the midst of the densely crowded prisoners and then 
turned on. Because of the high water pressure the hose moved violently 
to and fro. Prisoners tumbled, fell, got up and ran again to catch a bit 
of water. In that confusion the water went to waste, and the ground 
under us turned into slippery mud. All the while the 'Amis' watched that 
spectacle, finding it very funny and most entertaining. They laughed at 
our predicament as hard as they could. Then suddenly, they turned the 
water off again.

We had not expected that the Americans would behave in such a manner. We 
could hardly believe it. War brutalizes human beings.

One day later we were organized into groups of 400 men .... We were to 
receive two cans of food for each man. This is how it was to be done: 
The prisoners had to run through he slippery mud, and each one had to 
grab his two cans quickly, at the moment he passed the guards. One of my 
comrades slipped and could not run fast enough, He was shot at once ....

On May 10th , several truckloads of us were transported the the garrison 
of Ulm by the Danube..... As each man jumped into the truck, a guard 
kicked him in the backbone with his rifle butt.

We arrived in the city of Heilbronn by the Neckar, In the end we counted 
240,000 men, who lived on the naked ground and without cover.

Spring and summer were mild this year, but we were starving. At 6;00 am 
we received coffee, at noon about a pint of soup and 100 grams of bread 
a day........

The 'Amis' gave us newspapers in German language, describing the terrors 
of the concentration camps. We did not believe any of it. We figured the 
Americans only wanted to demoralize us further.

The fields on which we lived belonged to the farmers of the area...soon 
nothing of the clover and other sprouting greens were left, and the 
trees were barren. We had eaten each blade of grass.....

In some camps there were Hungarian POW's. 15,000 of them. Mutiny against 
their officers broke out twice amongst them. After the second mutiny the 
Americans decided to use German prisoners to govern the Hungarians. 
Since the Hungarians were used as workers they were well fed. There was 
more food than they could eat. But when the Germans asked the Americans 
for permission to bring the Hungarians' leftovers into the camps of the 
starving Germans, it was denied. The Americans rather destroyed surplus 
food, than giving it to the Germans.

Sometimes it happened that groups of our own men were gathered and 
transported away. We presumed they were discharged to go home, and 
naturally, we wished to be among them. Much later we heard they were 
sent to labor camps! My mother's cousin, feared that he would be drafted 
into the Hitler Youth SS, he volunteered to the marines, in 1945 his 
unit was in Denmark. On April 20th they were captured by the Americans. 
his experience in the POW camp was identical that of my brother's. They 
lived in open fields, did not receive and food and water the first six 
days, and starved nearly to death. German wives and mothers who wanted 
to throw loaves of bread over the fence, were chased off. The prisoners, 
just to have something to chew, scraped the bark from young trees. my 
cousins job was to report each morning how many had died during the 
night. "and these were not just a few!" he adds to his report he wrote me.

It became known, that the conditions in the POW camps in the American 
Zone were identical everywhere. We could therefore safely conclude, that 
it was by intent and by orders from higher ups to starve the German 
POW's and we blamed General Eisenhower for it. He, who was of German 
descent could not discern the evildoers during the Nazi time from our 
decent people. We held that neglect of knowledge and understanding 
severely against him.

I wish to quote the inscription on the grave stones of those of my 
German compatriots who have already passed away:

We had to pass through fire and through water. But now you have loosened 
our bonds.


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It was the filthy ZYDS  running NKVD who caused the Ukrainian Holocaust
sometimes called HOLODOMOR, killinng so many TENS OF f MILLIONS Ukrainians
No wonder so many  thinking Ukrainians have disliked the Christkiller ZYDS 
for so  many centuries!

Those who fail to learn from history are forever doomed to repeat the same
mistakes.

http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/1996/219621.shtml
(Link active February 10, 2001)

"Let the chips fall where they may. The inordinate role played by Jews in
bringing Bolshevism to power is certainly a topic worthy of further
exploration."

FACES AND PLACES

by Myron B. Kuropas
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ghostbusting in Ukraine

A funny thing. No sooner does my commentary on Communist ghosts appear in
The Ukrainian Weekly than Ukraine responds.

Any connection? In your dreams, Kuropas.

But it's reassuring to learn that 68 democrats in Ukraine's Parliament
have neither forgiven nor forgotten the ethnocide perpetrated by the
Bolsheviks against the Ukrainian people.

Led by Lev Lukianenko, Yevhen Proniuk and Les Taniuk, the 68
parliamentarians have established Nuremberg II. The purpose, reports
Chrystyna Lapychak in a May 6 story carried by the service UNIAR press, is
to organize a symbolic international trial on crimes committed by the
former Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the Communist Party of
Ukraine. "The legislators plan to use the caucus to collect evidence, hold
public hearings and conferences, and maintain links with parliaments of
other former Soviet republics," reads the release.

It's a brilliant move. Since it's probably unrealistic to assume that,
given the present dominance of the Communist nomenklatura, Ukraine will
soon, if ever, bring anyone to trial, it is at least possible to document
Ukraine's Bolshevik barbarism.

Ukraine needs to authenticate these historical antecedents in some formal
way. The recent past needs to be recorded in its entirety for three major
reasons:
1) to expose the bestial Bolshevik abominations in all their horror in the
hope that they will never be repeated (communism won't go away unless a
silver spike is driven through its wretched heart);
2) academics, both in Ukraine and elsewhere, seem to be shying away from
writing the truth about Ukraine's Bolshevik past;
3) Ukraine can no longer pretend that what transpired between 1920 and
1991 was a mere aberration in a long history. It wasn't. Before Ukraine
can be whole again, past realities, as painful as they may be, must be
addressed.

We in North America can assist Ukraine's ghostbusters in a number of ways.
Dr. Lev Dobriansky's proposal to establish a Holocaust-type museum that
could serve as a reminder of Communist malevolence is an idea worthy of
our support...

Publications in the English language are another way we in North America
can help. There are countless areas that could use the light of truth. We
could begin with the story behind the Russian Bolshevik invasion of
Ukraine, its forced incorporation into the USSR, and the subsequent
annihilation of hundreds of Ukraine's own nationally oriented Bolsheviks
as well as thousands of scholars, editors, teachers and others whose
loyalty to Ukraine superseded loyalty to Lenin and Stalin.

Let the chips fall where they may. The inordinate role played by Jews in
bringing Bolshevism to power is certainly a topic worthy of further
exploration.

Another aspect of this early Bolshevik period was the total destruction of
the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church, which resulted in Siberian
exile or death for thousands of priests and prelates. This history has yet
to be written.

The famine, of course, also requires further research. Yes, there already
are excellent publications on the famine, but we need more. There are
hundreds of books on the Jewish Holocaust. There should also be hundreds
of books on the Ukrainian famine, a malefaction that has no equal in world
history.

There are some excellent books on the killing fields of Vinnytsia as well,
but more documentation is required. We know that in 1943, approximately
9,000 Soviet citizens were found buried in mass graves in the Ukrainian
city of Vinnytsia. It was later established that they were executed by the
Bolsheviks during the years 1937 and 1938. Significantly, none of the
persons killed had been sentenced to death. "In cases where an official
conviction could be linked to a victim," writes Ihor Kamenetsky in "The
Tragedy of Vinnytsia," "either through documentary evidence or on the
basis of the testimony by relatives, the maximum sentence was a term of 10
years' confinement in a labor camp with the denial of the right to
correspondence."

There is also testimony available regarding Soviet butchery of Ukrainian
nationalists as the Germans were approaching the city of Lviv in June of
1941. Unable to evacuate the thousands of prisoners incarcerated following
the Soviet occupation of Galicia, thousands of Ukrainians were simply
massacred in their cells.

The destruction of the Ukrainian Catholic Church by Soviet authorities and
the murder and deportation of thousands of Ukrainian clergy and laity is
still another subject requiring more research. Members of the underground
Church are still alive and could provide excellent testimony.

There are other crimes, some hardly known or mentioned, that need to be
exposed by Nuremberg II and by others. We can't pretend that Bolshevism
was one, big, misguided but well-intentioned error. 'Mistakes" were made,
we are told by devotees of socialism, but the goal was an honorable one.
This is the kind of spin the Left in America is already putting on the
collapse of the Soviet Union.

In an article titled "Socialism Would Strengthen the Republic's
Economies," for example, Mike Davidow argues that it was not socialism
that destroyed the Soviet empire but "retrogression," which was largely
the result of "ideological disorientation." Socialism in the USSR
"constituted a higher state in the progress of mankind," he writes. Mr.
Davidow mourns the Soviet demise because the Bolsheviks played "a
progressive role on the world scene for seven decades" and had "a positive
influence on social development." Mr. Davidow and others like him are one
more reason for setting the record straight.

Once again our community has an obligation to remind the world that no
people, not even the Jews, suffered more during the 20th century than the
Ukrainians....



More on Bolshevism and the Jewish role in slaughtering Ukrainians etc.

http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/~german/discuss/goldhagen/wagner.html
(Link active February 10, 2001)

EXCERPTED



Hitler's Willing Executioners, Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust, by
Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, NY: Alfred A. Knopf, 1996

by: Roland M. Wagner Ph.D., San Jose State University. June 23, 1996
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Understanding Goldhagen: his moral agenda

[...]

While Goldhagen is certainly correct that the Nazi propaganda ministry
demonized the Jews, he is overlooking a factor of great importance by
dismissing everything as being a mere "hallucination." Propaganda becomes
especially potent when it builds on elements of truth. The Nazis were able
to capitalize on the fact that many Jews did play important roles in the
Communist leadership, and Jews comprised a disproportionate number of the
local party officialdom in the Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, and other
areas. Peter Lawrence, in his article "Why Lithuania?" points out that in
Byelosrussia the Jews comprised about 8 percent of the population, and
while only 6.2 percent were members of the Communist party they comprised
23.2 percent of Party Committees at the district level. Nazi estimates for
the Soviet Union (cited on p. 49 in The Einsatzgruppen Reports edited by
Yitzhak Arad et al , 1989), were that the Jews comprised 1.77% of the
general population, 5.2% of the Communist party membership, 25.7% of the
party's Central Committee, and 36.8% of the Politburo, with the latter
percentage rising to 42.9% by the end of Lenin's era. In other words, Jews
had greater public visibility within the Communist bureaucracy, greatly
exceeding their percentage of the population....

Compounding the deadly intensity of this image, the Germans and the
peoples of Eastern Europe were well aware that the Soviet government had
launched ruthless pogroms of genocidal proportion against various ethnic
groups in the Soviet Union. World concern was aroused during the 1920s and
1930s when millions of Ukrainians and Volksdeutsch died as a result of the
deliberate Soviet policy to exterminate these ethnic groups through mass
starvation. The Ukrainians initially hailed the German troops as
liberators who would remove the Bolshevik yoke from their backs. Nazi
propaganda was relentless in its message: either victory, or total slavery
under the Jewish Bolsheviks.

While Goldhagen acknowledges on p. 393 the link drawn by the Nazi
propagandists between Bolshevism and World Zionism, he fails to emphasize
the crucial importance of this belief. Rather than focusing on how German
fears were aroused by rampant Communism in the east (an historically
specific, "situational" factor), he prefers to focus on the deep,
long-term historical roots of hallucinatory anti-Semitism, to which he
devotes an entire section of his book....



http://www.ajc.org/pre/russian.htm#russian
(Link active February 10, 2001)

EXCERPTED




Russian Jewish Elites And Anti-Semitism
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Twice in their history, Russian Jews have been associated in the public
mind with the ruling elite. During the early period of Bolshevism, Jews
played prominent roles in the ruling Communist Party and in the economic,
cultural, and academic life of the young Soviet state. Then, after the
collapse of communism in 1991, Jews again achieved influential positions
in politics as well as in the private sector, especially the media...

On the other hand, the presence of Jews in the Russian elite is cause for
concern among Jews themselves, who fear a backlash of anti-Semitism. As
one Russian Jewish leader has explained, “People here have quite bitter
memories of the participation of Jews in the [Bolshevik] revolution.”

Jews in Soviet Elites, 1917-88
------------------------------------------------------------------------

. Jews flooded into Russia’s economic, political, and cultural life. At
the same time, in proportions quite exceeding their percentage in the
general population of the Russian Empire, they played a highly visible
role in various movements hostile to the existing order-as liberal critics
of the autocratic regime, as Marxists, or as active exponents of
revolutionary terrorism.

After the fall of czarism and the establishment of Bolshevik rule, legal
discrimination against minorities was ended. Scores of Jews became
prominently involved in the destruction of the old regime and the
construction of the new society. Among the first echelon of leaders of the
new Russia were a number of Jews and individuals of Jewish origin.
Outstanding among these were Lev Trotsky (Bronstein), Grigory Zinovyev
(Radomyslskiy), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld), Yakov Sverdlov. There were also
some Jews in the second echelon: Moisey Uritskiy, Adolf Yoffe, Karl Radek
(Sobelson), Grigory Sokolnikov (Briliant), Yuri Steklov (Nekhamkes). These
Jewish Bolsheviks were not especially interested in Jewish matters and in
fact were Jewish only by accident of birth or because they were so
identified in their papers.....

To some Russians it appeared that Jews had taken over the country. Given
the total absence of Jews in the bureaucracy before 1917, their presence
among the state and party leadership and their prominence in the Soviet
military and secret police during the first years of Bolshevik rule
confirmed this impression......

When in the mid-1920s Stalin mounted a campaign against his major
opponents inside the party-a group that was labeled the “left opposition”
and included such prominent Jewish Bolsheviks as Trotsky, Kamenev, and
Zinovyev-his propaganda was spiced with thinly veiled anti-Semitism. In
October 1926 Trotsky, Kamenev, and Zinovyev were deprived of all their
posts in the party’s upper echelon, marking the beginning of the end of
Jewish prominence within the Soviet political elite.

[...]



http://www.ukar.org/shapov01.shtml
(Link active February 10, 2001)

EXCERPTED



Terms of a truce: Were I authorized to represent the Ukrainian position in
negotiating with Jews a cessation of verbal hostilities, I might open with
"If you stop fabricating lies about us, we will stop disclosing the truth
about you."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Prytulak   Cheka-GPU-NKVD in Ukraine   25May98   Jewish conquest of the
Slavs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Shapoval volume, then, provides us with one such reason why some
Ukrainian anti-Semitism might exist. The reason is that Ukrainians have
been aware of the Jewish domination of the experiment in government
through mass murder which went under the name of "Communism," and in which
experiment Ukrainians more than any other peoples have been conscripted
into playing the role of guinea pigs.

Jewish Conquest of the Slavs

The Shapoval volume.  The analyses that I present below are based on
information in the following book written in Ukrainian, with some of its
documentation presented in Russian:

Yuri Shapoval, Volodymyr Prystaiko, and Vadym Zolotariov, Cheka-GPU-NKVD
in Ukraine: People, Facts, Documents, Abris, Kyiv, 1997.

For the sake of brevity, I will refer to the above book as "the Shapoval
volume."

Sponsorship.  It is possibly highly significant that this book was
sponsored by the following:

National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine
M. S. Hrushevsky Institute
of Ukrainian Archaeography and Fontology
Security Service of Ukraine

----------------------------

Nationalities in the Cheka-GPU-NKVD. One may summarize my chief finding
with this succinct approximation:

Out of every 10 senior members
of the Cheka-GPU-NKVD in Ukraine:
6 were Jewish,
2 were Russian,
1 was Ukrainian, and
1 was other.

Latvians.  Latvians led in the "other" category.  More specifically:
NATIONALITY                  NUMBER INVOLVED         PERCENTAGE
Jewish=92 + Father Jewish=1        93                     58.1
Russian                            34                     21.3
Ukrainian                          15                      9.4
Latvian (M)=6 + (F)=1               7                      4.4
Belarusian                          3                      1.9
Polish                              2                      1.3
Polish/German                       1                       .6
Armenian                            1                       .6
Georgian                            1                       .6
German                              1                       .6
Lithuanian                          1                       .6
Moldovan                            1                       .6

Total known nationality           160                      100
Unknown nationality                23
Total                             183

Almost no mixed parentage.  Given that the authors noted the instance in
which only the father was Jewish, it would appear that there are no other
instances of known mixed parentage in this sample.

Almost no females.  In Ukrainian, the word for "a Latvian person" comes in
masculine and feminine versions, and thus it was possible to note upon no
more than seeing their nationality stated that six of the Latvians were
male and one female.  But as all the other nationality names also come in
two versions, then it would also have been possible to note the presence
of a female in them as well, which however I failed to do.  Thus, in the
sample of 160 for which nationalities were specified, there appears to be
only a single female.  The Cheka-GPU-NKVD in Ukraine, then, appears to
have been a male-dominated occupation.

Possible under-estimate of Jewish participation.  The "Polish/German"
above refers to a single official who was inconsistent in identifying his
nationality on various documents, sometimes stating Polish and sometimes
German.  Two possibilities come to mind: first, that neither of these is
his true nationality; second, that other officials may have misrepresented
their nationality more consistently and thus avoided detection.  More
specifically, as Jews commonly assumed non-Jewish names and concealed
their Jewish identity, it is possible that the above statistics constitute
an under-estimate of Jewish presence in the Cheka-GPU-NKVD.

The Shapoval volume offers some evidence in confirmation of this
hypothesis.  That is, in listing the names of the 183 Cheka-GPU-NKVD
officials, when the official used more than one name or changed his name,
Shapoval included the aliases in parentheses.  The number of names
containing parentheses was 20.  Of these, 14 were Jewish, 3 Latvian, 1
Russian, 1 German, and 1 unknown.  Thus, it would appear that the changing
of names was overwhelmingly a Jewish phenomenon.  Furthermore, my
impression is that the name changes tended to be in the direction of
making the names less Jewish and more Slavic, though as this conclusion
requires the exercise of judgment, and as in several cases I did not trust
my judgment, I do not here quantify the direction of the name changes.
Four examples of names that seemed to go from Jewish to Slavic were:

EARLIER JEWISH NAME                       LATER SLAVIC NAME
Holovanivskyi Bernard Volfovych       Kozelskyi Borys Volodymyrovych
Podolsky Davyd Vulfovych              Orlov Danylo Volodymyrovych
Izrail Moiseiovych Radzivilovskyi     Oleksandr Pavlovych
Rosenbardt Abram Borysovych Rozanov   Oleksandr Borysovych

Declining to guess nationality from name?   Among the 23 for whom
nationality was not specified, I noticed a few cases in which nationality
might be inferred from the name alone.  For example, although no
nationality was specified for Solomon Isaakovych Goldman, one might
venture to guess that he is more likely Jewish than Russian or Ukrainian.
I conclude that either the authors had independent evidence concerning
Goldman's nationality but failed to specify it as an oversight, or else
that they had insufficient biographical data to infer nationality, and
followed the general rule of declining to do so from name only.  Of course
if the Shapoval authors declined to guess that Solomon Isaakovych Goldman
was Jewish, then I decline to do so as well, leaving him uncategorized
with respect to nationality.

[...]

A minor paradox resolved.  It should go without saying that even if the
Communist Revolution was controlled mostly by Jews, it does not follow
that most Jews were either Communists or revolutionaries.  Rather, many
writers go out of their way to comment that only a minority of Jews
supported Bolshevism, most were indifferent, and some opposed it.  Thus,
although in the first of the pair of quotations below, we see Hilaire
Belloc unequivocally placing responsibility for the Russian Revolution at
the feet of the Jews, yet in the second of the pair of quotations we find
him unequivocally exonerating Jews in general from blame — a seeming
paradox which a little thought demonstrates contains no contradiction:

It was the pure despotism of a clique, the leaders of which had been
specially launched upon Russia under German direction in order to break
down any chance of a revival of Russian military power, and all those
leaders, without exception, were Jews, or held by the Jews through their
domestic relations, and all that followed was done directly under the
orders of Jews, the most prominent of whom was one Braunstein, who
disguised himself under the assumed name of Trotsky.  A terror was set up,
under which were massacred innumerable Russians of the governing classes,
so that the whole framework of the Russian State disappeared.  Among
these, of course, must specially be noted great numbers of the clergy,
against whom the Jewish revolutionaries had a particular grudge.  A clean
sweep was made of all the old social organization, and under the despotism
of this Jewish clique the old economic order was reversed.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Hilaire Belloc, The Jews, 1937, p. 58)

For the Bolshevist movement, or rather explosion, was Jewish.

That truth may be so easily confused with a falsehood that I must, at the
outset, make it exact and clear.

The Bolshevist Movement was a Jewish movement, but not a movement of the
Jewish race as a whole.  Most Jews were quite extraneous to it; very many
indeed, and those of the most typical, abhor it; many actively combat it.
The imputation of its evils to the Jews as a whole is a grave injustice
and proceeds from a confusion of thought whereof I, at any rate, am free.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Hilaire Belloc, The Jews, 1937, p. 55)

Jews present obstacle to the rule of law in Ukraine.  One of Ukraine's
most pressing needs today is to demonstrate the rule of law by punishing
the most egregious violations of the law — namely torture, murder,
genocide.  To the degree that the number of the guilty and the weakness of
the law make this unfeasible, Ukraine then needs more than anything else
to at least implement a Truth and Reconciliation Commission paralleling
the Truth and Reconciliation Commission so wisely instituted in South
Africa.  However, there is one huge obstacle standing in the way either of
the punishment of the guilty or of inducing them to confess.  That
obstacle is that a disproportionate number of the accused, or of those
revealed to have committed crimes, might turn out to be Jews, with the
result that Ukraine would be portrayed by a mindless world press as having
gone on an anti-Semitic rampage.  Thus, one way that Jews continue to harm
Ukraine today is by standing in the way of Ukraine demonstrating the power
of its law to bring its torturers and its butchers to account, or the
power of its righteousness to command its torturers and its butchers to at
least confess....

.. The Shapoval volume provides us with one such reason why some
Ukrainian anti-Semitism might exist.  The reason is that Ukrainians have
been aware of the Jewish domination of the experiment in government
through mass murder which went under the name of "Communism," and in which
experiment Ukrainians more than any other peoples have been conscripted
into playing the role of guinea pigs.

Terms of a truce.  Were I authorized to represent the Ukrainian position
in negotiating with Jews a cessation of verbal hostilities, I might open
with "If you stop fabricating lies about us, we will stop disclosing the
truth about you."



On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:23:05 -0600, Slawlo@webtv.net (Slawko),  in wrote:

>Its pretty hard to find people on SCU to give any support or sympathy to
>Ukrainian people.
>If you notice how many responses you get when someone post-writes
>something about Ukraine. 
>To many people on SCU keep on posting something that there is no
>connection of any kind to Ukraine or Ukrainians.
>This makes them very happy because they know it will chase Ukrainians
>away from here.
>And its very clear to see what their motif is.

>To make Ukrainians look bad on their own NG.  And they are very happy. 



If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


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It was the filthy ZYDS  running NKVD who caused the Ukrainian Holocaust
sometimes called HOLODOMOR, killinng so many TENS OF f MILLIONS Ukrainians
No wonder so many  thinking Ukrainians have disliked the Christkiller ZYDS 
for so  many centuries!

Those who fail to learn from history are forever doomed to repeat the same
mistakes.

http://www.ukrweekly.com/Archive/1996/219621.shtml
(Link active February 10, 2001)

"Let the chips fall where they may. The inordinate role played by Jews in
bringing Bolshevism to power is certainly a topic worthy of further
exploration."

FACES AND PLACES

by Myron B. Kuropas
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ghostbusting in Ukraine

A funny thing. No sooner does my commentary on Communist ghosts appear in
The Ukrainian Weekly than Ukraine responds.

Any connection? In your dreams, Kuropas.

But it's reassuring to learn that 68 democrats in Ukraine's Parliament
have neither forgiven nor forgotten the ethnocide perpetrated by the
Bolsheviks against the Ukrainian people.

Led by Lev Lukianenko, Yevhen Proniuk and Les Taniuk, the 68
parliamentarians have established Nuremberg II. The purpose, reports
Chrystyna Lapychak in a May 6 story carried by the service UNIAR press, is
to organize a symbolic international trial on crimes committed by the
former Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the Communist Party of
Ukraine. "The legislators plan to use the caucus to collect evidence, hold
public hearings and conferences, and maintain links with parliaments of
other former Soviet republics," reads the release.

It's a brilliant move. Since it's probably unrealistic to assume that,
given the present dominance of the Communist nomenklatura, Ukraine will
soon, if ever, bring anyone to trial, it is at least possible to document
Ukraine's Bolshevik barbarism.

Ukraine needs to authenticate these historical antecedents in some formal
way. The recent past needs to be recorded in its entirety for three major
reasons:
1) to expose the bestial Bolshevik abominations in all their horror in the
hope that they will never be repeated (communism won't go away unless a
silver spike is driven through its wretched heart);
2) academics, both in Ukraine and elsewhere, seem to be shying away from
writing the truth about Ukraine's Bolshevik past;
3) Ukraine can no longer pretend that what transpired between 1920 and
1991 was a mere aberration in a long history. It wasn't. Before Ukraine
can be whole again, past realities, as painful as they may be, must be
addressed.

We in North America can assist Ukraine's ghostbusters in a number of ways.
Dr. Lev Dobriansky's proposal to establish a Holocaust-type museum that
could serve as a reminder of Communist malevolence is an idea worthy of
our support...

Publications in the English language are another way we in North America
can help. There are countless areas that could use the light of truth. We
could begin with the story behind the Russian Bolshevik invasion of
Ukraine, its forced incorporation into the USSR, and the subsequent
annihilation of hundreds of Ukraine's own nationally oriented Bolsheviks
as well as thousands of scholars, editors, teachers and others whose
loyalty to Ukraine superseded loyalty to Lenin and Stalin.

Let the chips fall where they may. The inordinate role played by Jews in
bringing Bolshevism to power is certainly a topic worthy of further
exploration.

Another aspect of this early Bolshevik period was the total destruction of
the Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church, which resulted in Siberian
exile or death for thousands of priests and prelates. This history has yet
to be written.

The famine, of course, also requires further research. Yes, there already
are excellent publications on the famine, but we need more. There are
hundreds of books on the Jewish Holocaust. There should also be hundreds
of books on the Ukrainian famine, a malefaction that has no equal in world
history.

There are some excellent books on the killing fields of Vinnytsia as well,
but more documentation is required. We know that in 1943, approximately
9,000 Soviet citizens were found buried in mass graves in the Ukrainian
city of Vinnytsia. It was later established that they were executed by the
Bolsheviks during the years 1937 and 1938. Significantly, none of the
persons killed had been sentenced to death. "In cases where an official
conviction could be linked to a victim," writes Ihor Kamenetsky in "The
Tragedy of Vinnytsia," "either through documentary evidence or on the
basis of the testimony by relatives, the maximum sentence was a term of 10
years' confinement in a labor camp with the denial of the right to
correspondence."

There is also testimony available regarding Soviet butchery of Ukrainian
nationalists as the Germans were approaching the city of Lviv in June of
1941. Unable to evacuate the thousands of prisoners incarcerated following
the Soviet occupation of Galicia, thousands of Ukrainians were simply
massacred in their cells.

The destruction of the Ukrainian Catholic Church by Soviet authorities and
the murder and deportation of thousands of Ukrainian clergy and laity is
still another subject requiring more research. Members of the underground
Church are still alive and could provide excellent testimony.

There are other crimes, some hardly known or mentioned, that need to be
exposed by Nuremberg II and by others. We can't pretend that Bolshevism
was one, big, misguided but well-intentioned error. 'Mistakes" were made,
we are told by devotees of socialism, but the goal was an honorable one.
This is the kind of spin the Left in America is already putting on the
collapse of the Soviet Union.

In an article titled "Socialism Would Strengthen the Republic's
Economies," for example, Mike Davidow argues that it was not socialism
that destroyed the Soviet empire but "retrogression," which was largely
the result of "ideological disorientation." Socialism in the USSR
"constituted a higher state in the progress of mankind," he writes. Mr.
Davidow mourns the Soviet demise because the Bolsheviks played "a
progressive role on the world scene for seven decades" and had "a positive
influence on social development." Mr. Davidow and others like him are one
more reason for setting the record straight.

Once again our community has an obligation to remind the world that no
people, not even the Jews, suffered more during the 20th century than the
Ukrainians....



More on Bolshevism and the Jewish role in slaughtering Ukrainians etc.

http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/~german/discuss/goldhagen/wagner.html
(Link active February 10, 2001)

EXCERPTED



Hitler's Willing Executioners, Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust, by
Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, NY: Alfred A. Knopf, 1996

by: Roland M. Wagner Ph.D., San Jose State University. June 23, 1996
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Understanding Goldhagen: his moral agenda

[...]

While Goldhagen is certainly correct that the Nazi propaganda ministry
demonized the Jews, he is overlooking a factor of great importance by
dismissing everything as being a mere "hallucination." Propaganda becomes
especially potent when it builds on elements of truth. The Nazis were able
to capitalize on the fact that many Jews did play important roles in the
Communist leadership, and Jews comprised a disproportionate number of the
local party officialdom in the Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, and other
areas. Peter Lawrence, in his article "Why Lithuania?" points out that in
Byelosrussia the Jews comprised about 8 percent of the population, and
while only 6.2 percent were members of the Communist party they comprised
23.2 percent of Party Committees at the district level. Nazi estimates for
the Soviet Union (cited on p. 49 in The Einsatzgruppen Reports edited by
Yitzhak Arad et al , 1989), were that the Jews comprised 1.77% of the
general population, 5.2% of the Communist party membership, 25.7% of the
party's Central Committee, and 36.8% of the Politburo, with the latter
percentage rising to 42.9% by the end of Lenin's era. In other words, Jews
had greater public visibility within the Communist bureaucracy, greatly
exceeding their percentage of the population....

Compounding the deadly intensity of this image, the Germans and the
peoples of Eastern Europe were well aware that the Soviet government had
launched ruthless pogroms of genocidal proportion against various ethnic
groups in the Soviet Union. World concern was aroused during the 1920s and
1930s when millions of Ukrainians and Volksdeutsch died as a result of the
deliberate Soviet policy to exterminate these ethnic groups through mass
starvation. The Ukrainians initially hailed the German troops as
liberators who would remove the Bolshevik yoke from their backs. Nazi
propaganda was relentless in its message: either victory, or total slavery
under the Jewish Bolsheviks.

While Goldhagen acknowledges on p. 393 the link drawn by the Nazi
propagandists between Bolshevism and World Zionism, he fails to emphasize
the crucial importance of this belief. Rather than focusing on how German
fears were aroused by rampant Communism in the east (an historically
specific, "situational" factor), he prefers to focus on the deep,
long-term historical roots of hallucinatory anti-Semitism, to which he
devotes an entire section of his book....



http://www.ajc.org/pre/russian.htm#russian
(Link active February 10, 2001)

EXCERPTED




Russian Jewish Elites And Anti-Semitism
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Twice in their history, Russian Jews have been associated in the public
mind with the ruling elite. During the early period of Bolshevism, Jews
played prominent roles in the ruling Communist Party and in the economic,
cultural, and academic life of the young Soviet state. Then, after the
collapse of communism in 1991, Jews again achieved influential positions
in politics as well as in the private sector, especially the media...

On the other hand, the presence of Jews in the Russian elite is cause for
concern among Jews themselves, who fear a backlash of anti-Semitism. As
one Russian Jewish leader has explained, “People here have quite bitter
memories of the participation of Jews in the [Bolshevik] revolution.”

Jews in Soviet Elites, 1917-88
------------------------------------------------------------------------

. Jews flooded into Russia’s economic, political, and cultural life. At
the same time, in proportions quite exceeding their percentage in the
general population of the Russian Empire, they played a highly visible
role in various movements hostile to the existing order-as liberal critics
of the autocratic regime, as Marxists, or as active exponents of
revolutionary terrorism.

After the fall of czarism and the establishment of Bolshevik rule, legal
discrimination against minorities was ended. Scores of Jews became
prominently involved in the destruction of the old regime and the
construction of the new society. Among the first echelon of leaders of the
new Russia were a number of Jews and individuals of Jewish origin.
Outstanding among these were Lev Trotsky (Bronstein), Grigory Zinovyev
(Radomyslskiy), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld), Yakov Sverdlov. There were also
some Jews in the second echelon: Moisey Uritskiy, Adolf Yoffe, Karl Radek
(Sobelson), Grigory Sokolnikov (Briliant), Yuri Steklov (Nekhamkes). These
Jewish Bolsheviks were not especially interested in Jewish matters and in
fact were Jewish only by accident of birth or because they were so
identified in their papers.....

To some Russians it appeared that Jews had taken over the country. Given
the total absence of Jews in the bureaucracy before 1917, their presence
among the state and party leadership and their prominence in the Soviet
military and secret police during the first years of Bolshevik rule
confirmed this impression......

When in the mid-1920s Stalin mounted a campaign against his major
opponents inside the party-a group that was labeled the “left opposition”
and included such prominent Jewish Bolsheviks as Trotsky, Kamenev, and
Zinovyev-his propaganda was spiced with thinly veiled anti-Semitism. In
October 1926 Trotsky, Kamenev, and Zinovyev were deprived of all their
posts in the party’s upper echelon, marking the beginning of the end of
Jewish prominence within the Soviet political elite.

[...]



http://www.ukar.org/shapov01.shtml
(Link active February 10, 2001)

EXCERPTED



Terms of a truce: Were I authorized to represent the Ukrainian position in
negotiating with Jews a cessation of verbal hostilities, I might open with
"If you stop fabricating lies about us, we will stop disclosing the truth
about you."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Prytulak   Cheka-GPU-NKVD in Ukraine   25May98   Jewish conquest of the
Slavs
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Shapoval volume, then, provides us with one such reason why some
Ukrainian anti-Semitism might exist. The reason is that Ukrainians have
been aware of the Jewish domination of the experiment in government
through mass murder which went under the name of "Communism," and in which
experiment Ukrainians more than any other peoples have been conscripted
into playing the role of guinea pigs.

Jewish Conquest of the Slavs

The Shapoval volume.  The analyses that I present below are based on
information in the following book written in Ukrainian, with some of its
documentation presented in Russian:

Yuri Shapoval, Volodymyr Prystaiko, and Vadym Zolotariov, Cheka-GPU-NKVD
in Ukraine: People, Facts, Documents, Abris, Kyiv, 1997.

For the sake of brevity, I will refer to the above book as "the Shapoval
volume."

Sponsorship.  It is possibly highly significant that this book was
sponsored by the following:

National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine
M. S. Hrushevsky Institute
of Ukrainian Archaeography and Fontology
Security Service of Ukraine

----------------------------

Nationalities in the Cheka-GPU-NKVD. One may summarize my chief finding
with this succinct approximation:

Out of every 10 senior members
of the Cheka-GPU-NKVD in Ukraine:
6 were Jewish,
2 were Russian,
1 was Ukrainian, and
1 was other.

Latvians.  Latvians led in the "other" category.  More specifically:
NATIONALITY                  NUMBER INVOLVED         PERCENTAGE
Jewish=92 + Father Jewish=1        93                     58.1
Russian                            34                     21.3
Ukrainian                          15                      9.4
Latvian (M)=6 + (F)=1               7                      4.4
Belarusian                          3                      1.9
Polish                              2                      1.3
Polish/German                       1                       .6
Armenian                            1                       .6
Georgian                            1                       .6
German                              1                       .6
Lithuanian                          1                       .6
Moldovan                            1                       .6

Total known nationality           160                      100
Unknown nationality                23
Total                             183

Almost no mixed parentage.  Given that the authors noted the instance in
which only the father was Jewish, it would appear that there are no other
instances of known mixed parentage in this sample.

Almost no females.  In Ukrainian, the word for "a Latvian person" comes in
masculine and feminine versions, and thus it was possible to note upon no
more than seeing their nationality stated that six of the Latvians were
male and one female.  But as all the other nationality names also come in
two versions, then it would also have been possible to note the presence
of a female in them as well, which however I failed to do.  Thus, in the
sample of 160 for which nationalities were specified, there appears to be
only a single female.  The Cheka-GPU-NKVD in Ukraine, then, appears to
have been a male-dominated occupation.

Possible under-estimate of Jewish participation.  The "Polish/German"
above refers to a single official who was inconsistent in identifying his
nationality on various documents, sometimes stating Polish and sometimes
German.  Two possibilities come to mind: first, that neither of these is
his true nationality; second, that other officials may have misrepresented
their nationality more consistently and thus avoided detection.  More
specifically, as Jews commonly assumed non-Jewish names and concealed
their Jewish identity, it is possible that the above statistics constitute
an under-estimate of Jewish presence in the Cheka-GPU-NKVD.

The Shapoval volume offers some evidence in confirmation of this
hypothesis.  That is, in listing the names of the 183 Cheka-GPU-NKVD
officials, when the official used more than one name or changed his name,
Shapoval included the aliases in parentheses.  The number of names
containing parentheses was 20.  Of these, 14 were Jewish, 3 Latvian, 1
Russian, 1 German, and 1 unknown.  Thus, it would appear that the changing
of names was overwhelmingly a Jewish phenomenon.  Furthermore, my
impression is that the name changes tended to be in the direction of
making the names less Jewish and more Slavic, though as this conclusion
requires the exercise of judgment, and as in several cases I did not trust
my judgment, I do not here quantify the direction of the name changes.
Four examples of names that seemed to go from Jewish to Slavic were:

EARLIER JEWISH NAME                       LATER SLAVIC NAME
Holovanivskyi Bernard Volfovych       Kozelskyi Borys Volodymyrovych
Podolsky Davyd Vulfovych              Orlov Danylo Volodymyrovych
Izrail Moiseiovych Radzivilovskyi     Oleksandr Pavlovych
Rosenbardt Abram Borysovych Rozanov   Oleksandr Borysovych

Declining to guess nationality from name?   Among the 23 for whom
nationality was not specified, I noticed a few cases in which nationality
might be inferred from the name alone.  For example, although no
nationality was specified for Solomon Isaakovych Goldman, one might
venture to guess that he is more likely Jewish than Russian or Ukrainian.
I conclude that either the authors had independent evidence concerning
Goldman's nationality but failed to specify it as an oversight, or else
that they had insufficient biographical data to infer nationality, and
followed the general rule of declining to do so from name only.  Of course
if the Shapoval authors declined to guess that Solomon Isaakovych Goldman
was Jewish, then I decline to do so as well, leaving him uncategorized
with respect to nationality.

[...]

A minor paradox resolved.  It should go without saying that even if the
Communist Revolution was controlled mostly by Jews, it does not follow
that most Jews were either Communists or revolutionaries.  Rather, many
writers go out of their way to comment that only a minority of Jews
supported Bolshevism, most were indifferent, and some opposed it.  Thus,
although in the first of the pair of quotations below, we see Hilaire
Belloc unequivocally placing responsibility for the Russian Revolution at
the feet of the Jews, yet in the second of the pair of quotations we find
him unequivocally exonerating Jews in general from blame — a seeming
paradox which a little thought demonstrates contains no contradiction:

It was the pure despotism of a clique, the leaders of which had been
specially launched upon Russia under German direction in order to break
down any chance of a revival of Russian military power, and all those
leaders, without exception, were Jews, or held by the Jews through their
domestic relations, and all that followed was done directly under the
orders of Jews, the most prominent of whom was one Braunstein, who
disguised himself under the assumed name of Trotsky.  A terror was set up,
under which were massacred innumerable Russians of the governing classes,
so that the whole framework of the Russian State disappeared.  Among
these, of course, must specially be noted great numbers of the clergy,
against whom the Jewish revolutionaries had a particular grudge.  A clean
sweep was made of all the old social organization, and under the despotism
of this Jewish clique the old economic order was reversed.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Hilaire Belloc, The Jews, 1937, p. 58)

For the Bolshevist movement, or rather explosion, was Jewish.

That truth may be so easily confused with a falsehood that I must, at the
outset, make it exact and clear.

The Bolshevist Movement was a Jewish movement, but not a movement of the
Jewish race as a whole.  Most Jews were quite extraneous to it; very many
indeed, and those of the most typical, abhor it; many actively combat it.
The imputation of its evils to the Jews as a whole is a grave injustice
and proceeds from a confusion of thought whereof I, at any rate, am free.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
(Hilaire Belloc, The Jews, 1937, p. 55)

Jews present obstacle to the rule of law in Ukraine.  One of Ukraine's
most pressing needs today is to demonstrate the rule of law by punishing
the most egregious violations of the law — namely torture, murder,
genocide.  To the degree that the number of the guilty and the weakness of
the law make this unfeasible, Ukraine then needs more than anything else
to at least implement a Truth and Reconciliation Commission paralleling
the Truth and Reconciliation Commission so wisely instituted in South
Africa.  However, there is one huge obstacle standing in the way either of
the punishment of the guilty or of inducing them to confess.  That
obstacle is that a disproportionate number of the accused, or of those
revealed to have committed crimes, might turn out to be Jews, with the
result that Ukraine would be portrayed by a mindless world press as having
gone on an anti-Semitic rampage.  Thus, one way that Jews continue to harm
Ukraine today is by standing in the way of Ukraine demonstrating the power
of its law to bring its torturers and its butchers to account, or the
power of its righteousness to command its torturers and its butchers to at
least confess....

.. The Shapoval volume provides us with one such reason why some
Ukrainian anti-Semitism might exist.  The reason is that Ukrainians have
been aware of the Jewish domination of the experiment in government
through mass murder which went under the name of "Communism," and in which
experiment Ukrainians more than any other peoples have been conscripted
into playing the role of guinea pigs.

Terms of a truce.  Were I authorized to represent the Ukrainian position
in negotiating with Jews a cessation of verbal hostilities, I might open
with "If you stop fabricating lies about us, we will stop disclosing the
truth about you."



On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 05:23:05 -0600, Slawlo@webtv.net (Slawko),  in wrote:

>Its pretty hard to find people on SCU to give any support or sympathy to
>Ukrainian people.
>If you notice how many responses you get when someone post-writes
>something about Ukraine. 
>To many people on SCU keep on posting something that there is no
>connection of any kind to Ukraine or Ukrainians.
>This makes them very happy because they know it will chase Ukrainians
>away from here.
>And its very clear to see what their motif is.

>To make Ukrainians look bad on their own NG.  And they are very happy. 



If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
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Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
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"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
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they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


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From: "Gnostic" 
Subject: ZYD/Jew money laundering ring busted, 
stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to Israel 
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:58:29 -0500

U.S. Attorney General's Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District
Court for the Central District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and
four other Spinka organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion
dollar tax fraud and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to
Los Angeles to Israel and elsewhere.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/home/preview.php?id=18767

2008-01-11

The Spinka money trail -- and the informant who brought them down

By Amy Klein, Religion Editor

Spinka defendants and supporters as they cross the street to the federal
courthouse in downtown Los Angeles on Dec. 31, 2007. Courthouse photos by
Dan Kacvinski

The first snow flutters hesitantly in Brooklyn. Men wearing fur streimel
hats and women wearing sheitls walk briskly past the corner of 15th Avenue
and 58th Street in Boro Park as if nothing extraordinary has happened here.

And why not? The kosher shops of this self-contained ultra-Orthodox
neighborhood -- practically a city onto itself -- are still a few blocks
down, and here on this bleak corner, there are only three orange school
buses parked in front of a four-story, dark-red brick building, which sits
on a residential street, where tall, narrow houses nearly overlap. The
structure (photo below) is rather nondescript and unimposing -- garbage bags
are piled haphazardly by a front gate, bars protect the windows, young boys
can be heard chanting from behind the locked door and a white sign with sky
blue Hebrew lettering reads: "Yeshiva Imrei Yosef Spinka."


A buzzer sounds. The door opens. No one asks who rang the bell. Up the four
steps, a reception window sits empty. Hazy yellow fluorescent lights
illuminate the narrow hallways adorned with graying yellow paint and frayed
industrial carpeting. If there are millions -- or even thousands -- of
dollars going to the Spinka yeshiva, it certainly doesn't seem like it's
coming here.

This despite the fact that on Dec. 19, 2007, the U.S. Attorney General's
Office filed an indictment in the U.S. District Court for the Central
District of California naming the Chasidic yeshiva and four other Spinka
organizations, as well as eight people, in a multimillion dollar tax fraud
and money-laundering ring that stretched from Brooklyn to Los Angeles to
Israel and elsewhere.

Two of those indicted are Rabbi Naftali Tzi Weisz, 59, the Grand Rabbi of
Spinka, a Brooklyn-based Chasidic sect, whose yeshiva is in this
undistinguished building, and his gabbai (assistant), Moshe Zigelman, 60.

Weisz is just one of a number of Grand Rebbes of Spinka, a Chasidic sect
that originated in Romania in the 19th century. He is the
great-great-grandson of the founding rabbi, and one of about a dozen Grand
Spinka Rebbes who live in Boro Park or Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, or Bnei
Brak and Jerusalem in Israel.

Four Los Angeles men were among those charged with taking part in the
scheme: Yaacov (Yankel) Zeivald, 43, a self-described scribe (sofer) from
Valley Village (photo, right); Yosef Nachum Naiman, 55, the owner of Shatz
Et Naiman, d.b.a. Jerusalem Tours; Alan Jay Friedman, 43, a businessman from
Pico-Robertson who sits on the board of the Orthodox Union; and Moshe Lazar,
60, owner of Lazar Diamonds, a Los Angeles jewelry company.

Although many of the details of the case have not yet been revealed -- a
trial date is set for Feb. 12, but the defendants' lawyers say it will be
postponed at least a year -- what is emerging from the indictment, the
search warrant and other documents of public record is a complex
money-laundering scheme. According to the documents, people donated money to
the Spinka institutions but then received 80 percent to 95 percent of their
donations back, yet wrote off the full amount on their taxes.

These charges are just the beginning of a much larger case, Daniel J.
O'Brien, an assistant U.S. attorney in the major frauds section, based in
Los Angeles, said in an interview with The Journal.

"There were many other people that contributed in this fashion that would be
the subject of government investigations," O'Brien said.

While O'Brien said he has documentation that the Spinka institutions took in
about $750,000 through the scheme -- then writing receipts for $8.7
million -- in 2007 alone, the assistant U.S. attorney believes the fraud has
been going on for decades: "I believe this goes on beyond living memory,"
possibly for generations.

This is certainly not the first time an ultra-Orthodox sect has been accused
of attempting to break the laws of the secular government -- aramos, or
schemes, were perpetrated over the centuries in the shtetls of Europe. In
the last decade, arrests have occurred in religious communities in Brooklyn,
Lakewood, N.J., and upstate New York.

However, this particular case has shocked Los Angeles' ultra-Orthodox
community, not only because Los Angeles had largely been exempt from such
cases in the past, but also because some of the city's prominent members
have been charged as being at the center of the scheme.

As a result, the case has sparked a fierce debate about the type of behavior
that is acceptable for observant people and what type of religious community
Los Angeles would like to be. But there's also debate about the laws of a
moser, an informant, because one person who was not charged was the primary
source of information for the federal case -- though he allegedly started
out as one of the perpetrators.



THE BEGINNING

On June 29, 2004, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil
fraud charges against Robert A. Kasirer and four executives of Heritage
Healthcare of America, which sold $131 million in bonds to 1,800 investors
in 36 states from 1996-1999, claiming that the money would be used to fund
10 health care facilities. In October of that year, Kasirer approached the
federal government and "expressed a desire to plead guilty to criminal
charges arising out of the investigation and agreed to reveal other criminal
conduct he and others had committed, with a view that any sentence he might
receive would be reduced," according to an affidavit for a search warrant
submitted by FBI Special Agent Ryan Heaton on Dec. 18, 2007.

Although the search warrant affidavit identifies Kasirer only as
"confidential witness (CW-1)" and the recent grand jury indictment refers to
a witness named only as RK, the companies in the affidavit attributed to
CW-1 and RK are run by Kasirer, and several members of the Los Angeles
community, who asked for confidentiality, have confirmed his involvement.

In 2004, under federal surveillance, the informant identified in the
transcript as CW-1 resumed activities he admitted to having conducted with
the Spinka since 1990, in which "he caused several million dollars in
contributions to be mailed to the tax-exempt organizations operating within
the umbrella of Spinka," he is quoted in federal documents as having told
the FBI.

As part of the scam, Weisz and Zigelman allegedly would return 80 to 95
percent of Kasirer's contributions.

On Oct. 31, 2007, the SEC issued a final judgment against Kasirer, ordering
him to pay $4,991,434.

"Kasirer consented to the entry of the final judgment without admitting or
denying the allegations contained in the commission's case," according to
the SEC enforcement proceedings.

In the interim, according to the transcripts, Kasirer began to wear a device
to record his interactions for the government. On Dec. 20, 2004, he told
Zigelman, the Spinka rebbe's gabbai, that he never intended to pay the SEC.

According to the wiretapped transcripts, Kasirer told Zigelman: "The SEC
investigation is done. But they want me to pay them a lot of money."

"How much?" Zigelman asked.

"Possibly one, one and a half," Kasirer said.

"Million?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer confirmed the amount and said he had told the SEC he didn't have the
money. In the transcript, Kasirer then went on to say that he'd lied to the
SEC, and that, in fact he had the money but wanted to hide that fact.

"What is SEC?" Zigelman asked.

Kasirer explained, and Zigelman replied, "Yes, yes, but you don't have to
give it to them."

For the next three years, Kasirer recorded conversations with targets of the
government investigation, and, using government funds, conducted a dozen
monetary transactions with Zigelman, according to transcripts of
conversations conducted in English, Hebrew, Yiddish and Hungarian. The
government also tapped the phones of Zigelman and Weisz.



CASH OR CHARGE?

For Kasirer, there were two ways the operation worked: At first he
reportedly received his "donations" back in cash, and when he became
uncomfortable with the large cash amounts floating around, he set up an
Israeli account.

According to the transcripts, Kasirer's money was allegedly refunded to him
by various men, all now defendants in the case: Naiman, Zeivald, Friedman
and Lazar, all of whom have pleaded not guilty to the charges against them.

Among the transactions in the transcripts, for example, was one on Feb. 8,
2007. Kasirer FedEx-ed a check for $20,000 made out to Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
to Zigelman. On Feb. 15, 2007, Lazar delivered $18,600 to Kasirer's house.
On Feb. 22, 2007, Kasirer got a letter in the mail on a Yeshiva Imrei Yosef
Spinka letterhead thanking Kasirer for his $20,000 donation to a tax-exempt
organization, saying the "donation" was entirely tax deductible and Kasirer
had received no "goods" or "services" in exchange for the contribution.

The Spinka Yeshiva charged Kasirer up to 7.5 percent for laundering the
money, which was a cause for some dispute, according to the wiretaps.

On Dec. 16, 2005, Kasirer told Joseph Roth, an assistant manager at Bank
Mizrahi -- which is based in Israel but has a branch in Los Angeles -- to
set up a new account so he could move money internationally.

On Jan. 12, 2006, Tel Aviv lawyer Jacob Kantor -- the only one of those
named in the indictment who is still at large -- is reported in the
transcripts offering to Kasirer to create documents to incorporate a company
called Bedford Holdings & Investments, which would be "held in confidence by
the bank and can only be disclosed after a complicated procedure by the Bank
of Israel, if there is evidence that the monies resulted from criminal
activities, such as drugs -- tax matters are not an issue." Much like
Switzerland, Israel has laws that protect investors, and the country does
not investigate monetary origins, even on suspicion of tax fraud.

"So, we wanted to basically set everything up the same way as it was
before," Kasirer told Roth in the affidavit transcripts. Later in the
document, he tells Zigelman that Kantor set up a trust in Israel so that
nothing would be left in Kasirer's name in order to hide his money from the
SEC. Then he'd take a loan from the Los Angeles branch of an unnamed Israeli
bank, "so I can use the money here." Later, he says in the affidavit, he
would take the money back from Israel and repay the loan here.

Mizrahi Bank, which is never named in the affidavit, is under investigation
by the federal government, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney O'Brien.

"We believe the bank offers this thing as a product to clients in the
U.S. -- the bank pitches this as a money-laundering product. I believe there
are multiple agents involved," O'Brien said, including Kantor.

The government also believes that there are many people like Kasirer, "who
occupy the same role as he did in this conspiracy," O'Brien said.

But Kasirer was not the creator of this conspiracy, according to the
government. His father -- the recently deceased Jacob (Yankel) Kasirer who
founded the Bais Yaakov School for Girls on Beverly Boulevard in Los Angeles
and is known as a "stalwart" of the Jewish community -- was involved with
the scheme. According to the transcripts, when Kasirer was discussing his
distress over his earlier money-laundering penalty with Lazar, the diamond
dealer said, "It's not something you started."

Kasirer replied, "I was really not aware of what he did with my father."

In addition, in a taped conversation, the Spinka Rebbe told Kasirer he
wanted to meet with his father.

"RK's father was engaged in this prior to RK being involved in it," O'Brien
said in an interview. "We believe that this has origins much earlier than
that -- beyond living memory."




CRIME IS NOT SO BAD

"There are a million ways that religious institutions defraud the
government," said one Brooklyn accountant who asked that his name be
withheld. However, it's not just the Jews, he claimed, "churches do the same
thing." Churches and synagogues are exempt from filing tax returns -- 
although many do -- and the government usually does not audit unless it has
probable cause. As a result, this can make fraud easier.

In the last decade or so, a number of Chasidic institutions on the East
Coast have been charged with such crimes, including the 1997 case against
the Skverer Hasidim in Rockland County, N.Y., where four men were found
guilty of defrauding the government of millions of dollars in federal Pell
Grants. But in the Orthodox community, many defended them, despite the
crime, because the money was used to support needy yeshiva students.

"Nobody here owns a yacht," a resident reportedly said, and the feeling
then -- as with many such institutional fraud cases -- that if the money is
used to help the community and not line someone's pockets, it's not so bad.

That, in fact, is a pervasive attitude these days in Brooklyn, where the
Spinka case raised fewer eyebrows than in Los Angeles, because the attitude
is everyone does something. This kind of discussion has been a hot topic on
many Internet blogs that discuss the ultra-Orthodox community.

"The government are thieves, what gives them the right to take 40 percent to
50 percent of someone's income? Anyone who can save yiddishe gelt from going
down that toilet is doing a mitzvah," one contributor wrote on the
Vosizneias (Yiddish for "What Is News?") blog.

The blog comments, though, seem to be about evenly divided between two
camps: On one hand are those castigating the government or the bloggers
posting the news for spreading gossip; on the other are those demanding that
the community finally put a stop to criminal behavior.

One particularly poignant plea came from New York white-collar defense
attorney Joel Cohen, in an essay published in 2006 titled, "Jewish Felons:
The Problem of Criminality in Observant Communities." Cohen described
witnessing a disturbing rise in crime among Orthodox and Chasidic Jews.

"The problem in the observant community, however, is not merely occasional,
nor does it often make headlines. Daily, in metropolises around the country,
yarmulka-wearing criminal defendants appear before the bar of justice," he
wrote.

Some prisons -- especially in New York, Los Angeles and Miami -- have daily
minyans, visiting rabbis, kosher food, classes and Shabbat meals, Cohen
wrote. "The most common charge is fraud: against businessmen and
run-of-the-mill citizens alike, most frequently involving victims outside of
the Jewish community, against the government, against insurance carriers,
against banking institutions, health care fraud, money-laundering and
stock-swindling."

Cohen pleads with his fellow Orthodox Jews to denounce the criminal
activity:

"Only with the open denouncement of wrongdoing from within the particular
observant community can the community hope to demonstrate and protect the
Torah's commitment to honesty in one's interpersonal dealings as being at
least equal to, if not greater than, its commitment to technical observance
of mitzvoth," he wrote



DON'T BLAME THE MESSENGER

But the most talked-about aspect of the case -- both among bloggers and at
Shabbat tables on both coasts -- has been the involvement of Kasirer. From
the start, most here guessed accurately who he was -- an informant who
turned state's evidence to save his own skin -- but what they wanted to know
was what was he? Was he a moser -- an informer, who, according to
traditional Jewish law, must be killed for turning against a Jew and is
denied access to "the world to come."

The Talmud forbids a Jew to inform on another Jew to a secular government,
even if that Jew violated both secular and Jewish law.

Today, among poskim -- Orthodox rabbinic deciders -- there is a debate over
whether a Jew may turn in another Jew in a democratic state. Some rabbis say
that laws of moser do not hold in the United States because they were
established to protect Jews from corrupt and anti-Semitic governments that
would likely torture and give Jews worse treatment than other prisoners than
merited by Jewish law.

This is not the case today in a democracy, they say. "These rules apply only
to one who informs on another to bandits and so endangers that person's
money and life, as these bandits chase after a person's body and money, and
thus one may use deadly force to save oneself," it is written in the Aruch
Hashulchan, ("Laying the Table," a book about Jewish law written in the late
19th century).

But many insist that the laws of moser do apply today, and that it is
forbidden by Jewish law for one Jew to inform on another to any secular
government.

Rabbi Ezra Batzri in "Dinnai Mamonut" ("Laws of Money") says informing is
prohibited. "All rules of informing are applicable even currently .... Even
if they bring all matter to court, it is clear that, through interrogation
and the police, government can destroy people, and in many places they do,
in fact, destroy people."

Some rabbis say you cannot be a moser, even in America, except when the
person doing the questionable act may be a danger to others -- a child
molester, a rapist, a murderer. In those cases, it would be "permitted" to
inform the authorities, writes Rabbi Hershel Schacther, a top posek. Which
means that in the case of financial wrongdoings, a Jew is not allowed to
inform on another Jew.

When the Spinka case broke, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC)
discussed the informant issue, RCC President Rabbi Meyer May said. But the
council decided to let other halachic authorities deal with the question.

"There is no way to explain how perfidious what RK did is. He violated the
spirit of Jewish law," May said. "Having said that, it doesn't justify what
was done on the other side [by the defendants]."

Although many were focusing on the moser and other justifications like
"everybody does it" and "we pay more taxes than everyone else," that is
beside the point, May said. The point, he continued, is to own up to any
wrongdoings. "Our business is the integrity [of the individual]," he said.
"Something which is wrong is wrong."

Still, others, like lawyer and blog commentator Cohen, argue that it is
precisely such concern about laws like that of moser -- which forbid a Jew
to turn in another Jew to authorities, and chilul Hashem, desecrating God's
name in public, which has created an atmosphere were people are more
concerned with protecting their own than following the laws of the U.S.
government.

"To ignore crime within our ranks does us a great disservice, both because
it weakens us as a community and because tolerating it suggests to the
outside world that Judaism does not promote a righteous moral compass,"
Cohen wrote.



BUSINESS AS USUAL

On Monday morning, Dec. 31, the streets of downtown Los Angeles were eerily
empty; nearly everyone had left town. But the Roybal Federal Courthouse was
open, and by 8:30 a.m. there were enough Chasidic men in the third-floor
corridor for a minyan: 11 -- not to mention a few clean-shaven men wearing
black yarmulkes -- all waiting for the morning's arraignment hearings to
begin.

Grand Spinka Rebbe Weisz didn't converse much with his gabbai Zigelman. The
men pored over Hebrew books -- either studying holy texts or reciting
psalms -- and intermittently conversed with the lawyers. It would be an hour
until the court would open and another until their own hearing would begin.

Everyone was anxious for the hearing to start -- not because of the upcoming
secular New Year, which the ultra-Orthodox do not celebrate -- but so that
they could return to their homes and to their lives in Brooklyn.

The seven men had been arrested and jailed on Dec. 19, a Wednesday, and most
were released before Shabbat.

Weisz and Zeligman had spent another Shabbat in Los Angeles, detained until
the arraignment. The Spinka Rebbe attended Rabbi Chaim Boruch Rubin's
synagogue in Hancock Park -- which itself is entangled in a legal battle
over land use -- and was given the honor of leading services. At this, a few
men walked out in protest.

"As a parent in the community and as a rabbi in the community, since there
were children in the room and since we have an obligation to teach our
children right and wrong," one person who left quietly said later. "I have
no problem [with the Spinka Rebbe] sitting in the front in his normal
[honored] seat," but the man who walked out said he would have preferred
"one stage less than normal" to show children "that it's not business as
usual."

When the court opened for the hearing, most of the defendants and their
supporters filed into the first row of the courtroom, except for the
clean-shaven Friedman, who sat in the back, a few seats away from Zeivald,
who was accompanied by an Israeli translator.

A Yiddish translator sat next to the Spinka Rebbe, and only Roth, the
Israeli banker, came from the entrance behind a glass partition, clad in
green prison outfit. He was the only one not yet released on bail, at the
time, because the government said he was believed to pose a flight risk.
Roth remains in custody.

Finally, their turn arrived. The seven filed up front, each with his
separate lawyers. (Famed lawyer Donald Etra, who was originally retained to
defend Weisz, was by then no longer on the case). They each declined to have
the charges read to them.

"How do you plead?" Magistrate Judge Alicia G. Rosenberg asked.

One by one, Weisz, Zigelman, Naiman, Zievald, Friedman, Lazar and Roth each
said: "Not guilty."

By 11 a.m., they filed out of the courtroom.

By Shabbat, Jan. 4, the Grand Spinka Rebbe was back in Boro Park to lead his
congregation. He's free on $2 million bail, allowed to travel for work in
New York and New Jersey, and of course, to California, where he and
Zigelman, among others, await trial.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinka_financial_controversy

This is similar to the TAX FRAUD involving Ken McVay & B'nai Brith!!


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ZYD CRIMES IN RUSSIA  EXPOSED FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE
No wonder normal people hate the filthy Christkiller ZYDS, after more than
2000 years!

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:23:48 -0400, in soc.culture.canada "serwad"
 wrote:

Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution

Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of ZYDS/Jews in 
Soviet-era repression

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist 
gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his 
writing career - the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet 
purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of 
the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the 
repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together - a reference to the 
1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the 
Russian Jewish population - contains three chapters discussing the Jewish 
role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet 
Russia.

  But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book, 
and questioned Solzhenitsyn's motives in writing it, accusing him of factual 
inaccuracies and of fanning the flames of anti-semitism in Russia.
Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period 
"consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians" as being behind the 
genocide. But he states that all the nation's ethnic groups must share the 
blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish 
experience.

In one remark which infuriated Russian Jews, he wrote: "If I would care to 
generalise, and to say that the life of the Jews in the camps was especially 
hard, I could, and would not face reproach for an unjust national 
generalisation. But in the camps where I was kept, it was different. The 
Jews whose experience I saw - their life was softer than that of others."

Yet he added: "But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal 
question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the 
actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds 
were Jews, is certainly incorrect."

Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of 
his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about 
his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given 
last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and 
revolutionary genocides - and that its Jewish population should be as 
offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power 
that also persecuted them.

"My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the 
psychology of the Jews - their spiritual component," he said. "I have never 
made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between 
layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to 
the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time 
was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the 
best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about 
us."

But Solzhenitsyn's book has caused controversy in Russia, where one Jewish 
leader said it was "not of any merit".

"This is a mistake, but even geniuses make mistakes," said Yevgeny 
Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress. "Richard Wagner did 
not like the Jews, but was a great composer. Dostoyevsky was a great Russian 
writer, but had a very sceptical attitude towards the Jews.

"This is not a book about how the Jews and Russians lived together for 200 
years, but one about how they lived apart after finding themselves on the 
same territory. This book is a weak one professionally. Factually, it is so 
bad as to be beyond criticism. As literature, it is not of any merit."

But DM Thomas, one of Solzhenitsyn's biographers, said that he did not think 
the book was fuelled by anti-semitism. "I would not doubt his sincerity. He 
says that he firmly supports the state of Israel. In his fiction and factual 
writing there are Jewish characters that he writes about who are bright, 
decent, anti-Stalinist people."

Professor Robert Service of Oxford University, an expert on 20th century 
Russian history, said that from what he had read about the book, 
Solzhenitsyn was "absolutely right".

Researching a book on Lenin, Prof Service came across details of how 
Trotsky, who was of Jewish origin, asked the politburo in 1919 to ensure 
that Jews were enrolled in the Red army. Trotsky said that Jews were 
disproportionately represented in the Soviet civil bureaucracy, including 
the cheka.

"Trotsky's idea was that the spread of anti-semitism was [partly down to] 
objections about their entrance into the civil service. There is something 
in this; that they were not just passive spectators of the revolution. They 
were part-victims and part-perpetrators.

"It is not a question that anyone can write about without a huge amount of 
bravery, and [it] needs doing in Russia because the Jews are quite often 
written about by fanatics. Mr Solzhenitsyn's book seems much more measured 
than that."

Yet others failed to see the need for Solzhenitsyn's pursuit of this 
particular subject at present. Vassili Berezhkov, a retired KGB colonel and 
historian of the secret services and the NKVD (the precursor of the KGB), 
said: "The question of ethnicity did not have any importance either in the 
revolution or the story of the NKVD. This was a social revolution and those 
who served in the NKVD and cheka were serving ideas of social change.

"If Solzhenitsyn writes that there were many Jews in the NKVD, it will 
increase the passions of anti-semitism, which has deep roots in Russian 
history. I think it is better not to discuss such a question now."



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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:54:04 GMT, in can.politics "Moishe Lipschitz"
 wrote:

http://www.theunjustmedia.com/jew%20organized%20crime.htm


For the real TRUTH about ZYDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for ZYDS= JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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This is more than true, if you read all the well documented details in the
book "OTHER LOSSES" by Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!

Now that more and more German survivors of the post-war genocide by
the US and allies are no longer afraid to testify, perhaps they too
will start demanding reparations for their torture, as did the filthy
ZHIDS for the holohoax?

Rumour is that ZYD photographers used the pictures of dead and dying Germans
in the Eisenhower death camps, as footage for their claims regarding ZYD
concentration camps, for reparations!!


>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:44:49 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
> wrote:
>>What an idiot.
>>The poster stated that he was told about the incident AFTER the war,
>>not that it happened after the war.


>>On 14 Dec 2004 01:33:31 GMT, COL. RSJ 
>>wrote:
>>>On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:59:16 GMT, "Kurt Knoll" 
>>>wrote:

>>>>I knew an older German living her that was in Ike' camp about 35 years
>>>>ago he told me the stories how he watched as they collected the death
>>>>every morning. He said also only the strongest once did get extra food
>>>>rationing to carry away the death. At one time the did stack up the
>>>>death into a pile and a film grew form from America took pictures of it.
>>>>He also said he has seen this film clip here in Canada latter on where
>>>>it was portrayed as a sceene from the concentration camps.

>>>So then, this all happened back in 1969.  I could have sworn that WW2
>>>was long over by then.

>>>>Kurt Knoll
>>>>Kitimat B.C. Canada

>>>>"Ernst Zundholtz"  wrote in message
>>>>news:1102955538.674ea702dd61a9f1ccb0b3a7dde7eba0@teranews...
>>>>> On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch"  wrote:
>>>>> >Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>>>> >> In article <1102789129.632939.294380@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>>>> >> Schorsch  wrote:
>>>>> >> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>>>>> >> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe
>>>>>
>>>>> >> Was there some point you wished to make?
>>>>>
>>>>> >Was there one you wished to make?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>>> the following article...
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>>> Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>>> and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>>> unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>>> Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>>> diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>>>> his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>>> Here is the latest.......
>>>>>
>>>>> From: cmsahe@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>>> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>>> Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>>> Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800
>>>>>
>>>>> A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"
>>>>>
>>>>> By Martin Brech
>>>>>
>>>>> FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>>> starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>>> victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>>> Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>>> book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>>> virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>>> told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>>> a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>>> publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>>> carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>>> January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>>> camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>>> POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>>> at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>>> food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>>> docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>>> and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,'
>>>>> Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>>> who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>>> Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>>> Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>>> of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>>> which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>>> finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>>> this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil",
>>>>> cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>>> put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>>> redemption.
>>>>>
>>>>> In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>>> student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of
>>>>> the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>>> was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>>> we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>>> time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>>> be sent to a hospital in Belgium.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>>> Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>>> placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>>> then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>>> units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>>> states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>>> which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>>> During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>>> outfits also.
>>>>>
>>>>> In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>>> camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>>> German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>>> forbidden.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>>> out the S.S. (I found none.)
>>>>>
>>>>> In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>>> very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>>> field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>>> enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>>> tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>>> numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>>> lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>>> spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>>> it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>>> hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>>
>>>>> Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>>> they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>>> provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>>> day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>>> there was nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>>> dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>>> it momentarily.
>>>>>
>>>>> We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>>> humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>>> nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>>> hauled away to mass graves.
>>>>>
>>>>> My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>>> was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>>> explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer
>>>>> would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>>> felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>>> term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>>> kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>>> repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>>> prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he
>>>>> said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>>> me some.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>>> caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense", and
>>>>> one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>>> bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>>> on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>>> women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>>> "Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>>> women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any
>>>>> had been hit.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>>> cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>>> the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>>> of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>>> Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>>> photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>>> cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>>> oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>>> prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>>> civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>>> have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>>> courageous enemy.
>>>>>
>>>>> The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>>> ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>>> many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>>> still hear in our own country today.
>>>>>
>>>>> As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>>> listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>>> desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>>> daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>>> down.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>>> the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. "Yankee
>>>>> traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>>> for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>>> cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>>> threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>>> indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.
>>>>>
>>>>> A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>>> when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>>> Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>>> not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>>> flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>>> whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>>> became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>>> We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>>> warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>>> from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>>> lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>>> never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>>> Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>>> position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>>> regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>>> reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>>> could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>>> picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>>> even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>>> what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>>> graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.
>>>>>
>>>>> I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>>> against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>>> frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>>> would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>>> beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>>> have never forgotten her face.
>>>>>
>>>>> While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>>> saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>>> admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>>> the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt a
>>>>> touch of spring.
>>>>>
>>>>> (I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>>> moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>>> extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>>> no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>>> understanding.)
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>>> guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>>> prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>>> could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>>> We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>>> part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>>> witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>>> prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, on this day we were happy.
>>>>>
>>>>> After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>>> our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>>> seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>>> tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>>> I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>>> knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice', and
>>>>> soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>>> high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of gratitude,
>>>>> they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>>> explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>>> Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>>> "Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>>> found an opportunity to eat it outside.
>>>>>
>>>>> Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>>> sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>>> gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>>> Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>>> called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>>> Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>>> until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>>> the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>>> open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>>> understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>>> not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>>> within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>>> was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>>> expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>>> mercy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>>> Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>>> soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>>> truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>>> behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>>> remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>>> The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>>> our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>>> Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>>> to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>>> quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>>> Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>>> our slow 'killing fields'.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>>> we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers", selected
>>>>> as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>>> them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>>> must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>>> was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>>> they deserved our treatment.
>>>>>
>>>>> As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>>> arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>>> we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>>> being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy Nazi
>>>>> medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>>> identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>>> more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him "off
>>>>> her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>>> punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>>> released him to continue his "dirty work".
>>>>>
>>>>> Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>>> sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>>> looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>>> away.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>>> their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>>> (foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>>> and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>>> expression of helplessness.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>>> everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>>> helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>>> doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>>> stores and wait until the next harvest.
>>>>>
>>>>> This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available", but,
>>>>> despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>>> additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>>> old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just friends"
>>>>> with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>>> was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>>> also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>>> something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>>> 1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>>> they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>>> racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>>> complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>>> their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>>> been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>>> high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>>> that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse than
>>>>> ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>>> war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>>> for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>>> learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>>> we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>>> unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>>> blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>>> atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>>> speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>>> prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>>> influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>>> depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>>> witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>>> goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>>> human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>>> I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s murder
>>>>> of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.
>>>>>
>>>>> I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>>> magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>>> to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>>> that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>>> directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>>> G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>>> would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>>> all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>>> would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>>> Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>>> Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>>> received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>>> Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>>> suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>>> witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>>> fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".
>>>>>
>>>>> We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>>> self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin Brech
>>>>> (Adjunct Professor,
>>>>> Philosophy & Religion,
>>>>> Mercy College;
>>>>> Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>>> Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301
>>>>>
>>>>> James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Posted by: 
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with

Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry who like
late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787 

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.


On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:56:15 +1000, "Ben Cramer"
<[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote:
>"kilgore"  wrote in message 
>news:xKE9g.4818$Sh3.2770@trnddc05...
>>  George wrote:
>>> "Ben Cramer" <[remove]bencramer7@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:e4422j$ij6$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>>>> http://www.cyberussr.com/hcunn/for/us-germany-pow.html

>>> They got over it, Ben.  Digging up the past as you do only makes you a 
>>> bitter man.  But then, I doubt if there is a cure for you in that 
>>> respect.

>>> George
>> I lost a daughter  in 95. I will never get over it. Im sure the close 
>> relatives of these people as well as the thousands of German children who 
>> were starved to death in Denmark will be remembered for quite some time. 
>> The present political climate in Germany is run by people who answer to 
>> Washington and Israel.When the Jews say JUMP, the Krauts say Wie hoch?

>Sad, but very true.
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed,
>>  second it is violently opposed,  &
>>   third, it is accepted as self-evident."

>> - Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
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WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
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IHR - www.ihr.org
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OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
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Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
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Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
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Exposing the Holocaust--REVISIONIST HERESY = TRUTH!

On 12 Nov 2006 18:40:03 -0800, in alt.revisionism "hoaxbuster@earthlink.net"
 wrote:

REVISIONIST HERESY

Just as there were no weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq prior
to the recent war-no Jews or gentiles were ever killed in gas
chambers or gas vans by the Nazis during World War 2. The
"intelligence experts" and "scholars" were and are wrong.
Whatever crimes and atrocities the Nazis and Hitler did commit, they
certainly did not include gassings of Jews nor anyone else. The
historians have blindly accepted the wildest pseudo-scientific nonsense
imaginable.

The Jews were still alive

The simplest reason for rejecting the Holocaust story is that the vast
majority of European Jews were still alive at the end of World War 2.
Professor Arthur Butz, the author of The Hoax of the Twentieth Century,
made this claim nearly thirty years ago-and he was absolutely correct
as the following quote from a credible, recent Jewish source shows.

The Jewish Week 11-28-2003
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8774&offset
=10&B1=1&author=Stewart%20Ain&issuedates=oneday&month=&day=&year
=&issuedate=20031128&keyword=
"Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned. Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of
Contemporary Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found
1,092,000 survivors worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in
Manhattan, found 688,000. The Ukeles survey, an update of one he
prepared in 2000 for the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against
Germany, found only minor differences from his previous effort.
Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys. Eagleburger
had hoped to use the figures in determining how to distribute $13.2
million annually in humanitarian funds for needy survivors worldwide."

Clearly, the numbers of "Jewish holocaust survivors" alive more
than fifty-five years after the war are so enormous that one must
surely wonder if any Jews at all perished in World War 2. Any
conservative and reasonable statistical analysis of population decline
over fifty-five years would surely conclude that there were more than
six million Jewish "holocaust survivors" alive at the end of the
war. No doubt, some innocent Jews were killed-but, there is no good
reason to believe Jewish deaths were statistically unusual for a long,
horrific war in which many tens of millions of innocent civilians were
killed of all nationalities. On the basis of numbers alone-the
generally accepted story is a monumental hoax. The continued worldwide
acceptance of that hoax, even in Germany, is a tribute to the enormous
power and influence of the supposed victms and the Jewish community in
general. The uniqueness of the alleged mass gassings has also appealed
to the darker side of the human imagination and gullibility.

The hoax has become a new religion which one must believe without
question or be condemned as "evil"-even imprisoned as in Germany
or Austria, and ruined as well. "Guilt for the holocaust" has come
to replace "original sin" for which all except the jewish victims
themselves must "bear responsibility."

Friedrich Paul Berg
Learn everything at www.nazigassings.com
The "holocaust" is racist hate propaganda.  
Nazi Gassings Never Happened!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
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NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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Ein zweites Katyn - Neue Massengräber polnischer Soldaten bei Kiew

On 4 Sep 2006 16:09:27 -0700, in de.soc.politik.misc "Deinos Dionysos"
 wrote:
Albert Pfündl schrieb:

> "G.Bartels"  schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:1157023229.333519.53750@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Ein zweites Katyn

> > Liegt Babi Yar nicht auch in der Naehe von Kiew?!

> http://www.lsg.musin.de/gesch/geschichte/natsoz/massaker_von_babi_yar.htm

Unter Deinem Link lesen wir:

"Ende 1943 mußten jüdische KZ-Häftlinge die Leichen exhumieren und
verbrennen, um zu versuchen, die Spur des Massenmordes zu verwischen."

Blobel, der für die Beseitigung des Grabes zuständig war, sagte aber:

"3. During my visits in August I myself observed the burning of bodies
in a mass grave near Kiev. This grave was about 55 m. long, 3 m. wide
and 2-1/2 m. deep. After the top had been removed the bodies were
covered with inflammable material and ignited. It took about two days
until the grave burned down to the bottom. I myself observed that the
fire had glowed down to the bottom. After that the grave was filled in
and the traces practically obliterated."

Wie erklären uns die "seriösen Historiker" diesen Widerspruch? Und
was für ein brennbares Material war das wohl? Scheint ja ein wahres
Wunderzeug gewesen zu sein.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
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    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
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EARLY ZIONIST TERRORIST GANGS
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 04:31:22 -0500, in alt.revisionism
chester_field@fastmail.fm wrote:

EARLY ZIONIST TERRORIST GANGS

Soon after the end of World War II, there were three basic
para-military Zionist organizations in Palestine, working against the
Arab people, with the specific purpose of driving it out of Palestine.
These were the Haganah, the Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang.

Before the British Mandate, the Jewish settlers had formed a group of
mounted armed watchmen called "Hashomar" and with the advent of the
British Mandate, it became the Haganah (Defense). With a membership of
60,000 Zionist Jews, the Haganah had a field army of 16,000 trained
men and a unit called the Palmach, which was a full-time force,
numbering about 6000.

The Irgun Zvai Leumi included between 3000 and 5000 armed terrorists,
and grew out of the Haganah and its Palmach branch in 1933. The Irgun
was not ready to obey the Jewish Agency which sought to dilute the
terror of the Haganah in order not to lose its respectability.

In 1939, one of Irgun's commanding officers, Abraham Stern, left the
parent organization and formed the Stern Gang, numbering some 200 to
300 dangerous fanatics.

SOME EARLY EXAMPLES OF JEWISH-ZIONIST TERROR.

August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939. During this period, the Zionists
carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the
death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.

November 25, 1940. S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in
Haifa harbour, killing 268 illegal Jewish immigrants (see below).

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated
the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in
Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in
Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian
administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring
more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for
the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah
and the Jewish Agency were involved.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb
explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to
contain bombs.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office
exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2
persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times,
Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December 11, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs
were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were
killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab
coastal village near Haifa.

December 13,1947. Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun
Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa
and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab
market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into
an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs
were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near
Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the
bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted
responsibility for the attack.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and
32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members
threw a bomb from a taxi.

December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel
Brigade" attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60
Arabs.

1947 -- 1948. Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their
homes and land, and forced to live in refugee camps on Israel's
borders. They have been denied the right to return to their homes.
They have been refused compensation for their homes, orchards, farms
and other property stolen from them by the Israeli government. After
their expulsion, the "Israeli Forces" totally obliterated (usually by
bulldozing) 385 Arab villages and towns, out of a total of 475.
Commonly, Israeli villages were built on the remaining rubble.

January 1, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes
of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33 wounded.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms
penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old
Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab
National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98
others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown
up, killing 20 persons, among them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish
Consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this crime.

January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa
Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further
casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron,
were reported from different parts of the country.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first,
8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of
bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing
138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks
on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4
occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near
Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4
children..

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building
in Haifa (a 7 story block of apartments and shops) by Zionists who
drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the
detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and
3 Armenians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Gang claimed
responsibility for the incident.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up
killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang
drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the
vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time
in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina,
killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern
Gang, supported by the Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of
Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including
countless women and children. Older men and young women were captured
and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the
hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel
Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias,
which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had
been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former
Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by
his wife.

April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried
out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They
stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they
could not take with them.

THE SS PATRIA.

November 25, 1940. In September, 1940, around 3,000 Jewish refugees
>from Vienna, Prague and Danzig were attempting to reach Palestine. In
a convoy of four river steamers, they set sail down the Danube and
reached the Romanian port of Tulcea where they transferred to three
Greek cargo ships named Atlantic, Pacific and Milos. Conditions on
board these three ships were horrendous, reminiscent of Japanese
hell-ships later in the war. Eventually the ships reached Palestinian
waters, but the British Colonial Office refused them permission to
land. It was finally decided to deport the refugees to the island of
Mauritius where a special camp was to be built. The three ships were
then brought into Haifa harbour where the liner Patria was berthed.
The refugees were then embarked on the Patria and as the last
passengers from the Atlantic were coming on board, a tremendous
explosion ripped the liner apart. The death toll amounted to 267
refugees killed. The explosion was the work of the Jewish underground
army, the Haganah, who had meant only to damage the ship to prevent it
sailing but had miscalculated the amount of explosives needed to
disable the ship. Many say that this was no miscalculation and was
deliberate murder of Jews by Jews, in an attempt to influence British
immigration policy to Palestine.
 
A LIGHT UNTO THE NATIONS.

The first act of air piracy in the history of civil aviation was
carried out by Israel, in Dec. 1954, when a civilian Syrian airliner
was forced down in Tel Aviv and its passengers and crew held for days,
despite international condemnation.

In 1968, Israeli commandos blew up 13 civilian airliners at Beirut
airport in Lebanon.

The first deliberate shooting down a civilian airliner was carried out
by Israel, when a Libyan airliner was shot down by Israeli jet
fighters over Sinai, in Feb. 1973, on the direct orders of Israeli
Prime Minister Golda Meir, killing all 107 of its passengers and the
entire French crew


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DRUGS & DRUG MONEY LAUNDERING IN ZYD  NETWORKS (The Jewish Mafia)

On 10 Nov 2006 20:19:40 -0800, in soc.culture.canada "Mirelle"
 wrote:

An important foundation of the old opium trade was the Jewish
Sassoon family (of which famous hair mogul Vidal Sassoon is an heir):

"The legend of the Jewish clan can be traced back to David Sassoon
(1792-1864). Born into a Sephardic Jewish family in Baghdad, Iraq,
David Sassoon set up the Sassoon company in Bombay, India, in 1833. In 1844,
he set up a branch in Hong Kong, and a year later, he set up his Shanghai
branch on the Bund to cash in on the opium trade. At that time, about
one-fifth of all opium brought into China was shipped on the Sassoon fleet.
They brought China opium and British textiles and took away silk, tea and
silver."
[SHANGHAI STAR,
5-10-01]

Beginning with Rothstein, American Jewish underworld
figures became prominently involved in smuggling and distributing
opium and opiates in the United States. During the 1920s and 1930s
Jews competed with Italians for dominance of the trade. The
Italian-American's racketeering predominated during World War II. This
was because of the Nazis. When the Germans began to exterminate
European Jewry, they also destroyed the Jewish criminals who
supplied American distributors." [ROCKAWAY, R., 1993, p. 8]

Rothstein's right-hand man was Louis Lepke, who took over the drug
empire when his boss died in 1928. In the 1930s associate Yasha
Katzenberg journeyed to Shanghai, China, contacted underworld figures
there, and "taught them how to make heroin."  "In the last thirties,"
says Cohen, "when officials at last figured out what Katzenberg was up
to, the League of Nations declared him an international menace. A few
years later Yasha was indicted, along with Lepke and twenty-eight
others, for violation of narcotics laws." [COHEN, R., p. 133-134]  In
the late 1940s, there were still "dozens of Jewish drug dealers roaming
New York City, the remnants of Rothstein's machine." [COHEN, p. 139]
Particularly noteworthy were Solly Gelb, Solly Gordon, Tudi Schoenfeld,
Artie West, Niggy Rutkin, Harry Koch, Sam Haas, Moe Taubman and Harry
Hechinger. Tolly Greenberg even invented a machine to turn liquid
heroin into pill form. [COHEN, p. 139-140] Harry Strauss,
"Philadelphia's gambling czar," later became involved in smuggling
"heroin into the United States from France. He reportedly earned $20
million a year from the trade." [ROCKAWAY, R., 1993, p. 33-34]

Today's drug dealing is probably the world's most profitable
crime; profit margins can range from 200% for cocaine to 1,200% for
heroin. The Colombian international drug cartel, "Kali," which
monopolizes the trade in Los Angeles and Miami, is estimated to
distribute over 80% of the world's cocaine and a third of its heroin.
Illegal drug syndicates are estimated to take in about $25 billion a
year in the United States alone. In 1998, 59 tons of cocaine and 770
pounds of heroin were confiscated by American police authorities.

Little known -- and little publicized -- in America, in recent
years the Jewish "Russian mafia," and Orthodox religious and Israeli
business networks with deep links to drug cartels, have been
instrumental in maintaining the United States drug problem. Many of
these criminals are particularly pious Jews, and a number of Orthodox
Jewish religious institutions have been used for the laundering of
literally hundreds of millions of dollars in drug money in
(particularly) New York City. (Money laundering here refers to the task
of getting huge sums of money that were paid for drugs, originally in
small bills, into a form of assets that has the appearance of
legality.) In 1994 Israeli journalist Ben Kapit exposed this story of
Jewish culpability and corruption in America's growing drug problem; he
wrote in Hebrew, to an Israeli audience, in the newspaper Ma'ariv.

http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/23drug.htm

Mirelle

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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The real HOLOCAUST on Dresden was perpetrated on the innocent 
civilians of Dresden, which had no military importance,  by bomber
Harris/Horowitz !!

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:58:40 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
phantomK777@webtv.net (Whitey Loughmiller) wrote:

Dresden
Kevin Alfred Strom

The night of February 13th, and February 14th, Valentine's Day, mark
an ominous anniversary in the history of Western Civilization. For
beginning on the night of February 13th, 1945, occurred the
destruction of Dresden. 

On the eve of Valentine's Day, 1945, World War II in Europe was nearly
over. For all practical purposes Germany was already defeated. Italy,
and Germany's other European allies, had fallen by the wayside. The
Red Army was rushing to occupy vast areas of what had been Germany in
the East, while the allies of the Soviets, the British and Americans,
were bombing what was left of Germany's defenses and food and
transportation infrastructure into nonexistence. 

And what was Dresden? Most of you have probably heard of Dresden
China, and that delicately executed and meticulously detailed
porcelain is really a perfect symbol for that city. 

For centuries Dresden had been a center of art and culture, and
refined leisure and recreation. She was a city of art museums and
theatres, circuses and sports stadia, a town of ancient half-timbered
buildings looking for all the world like those of medieval England,
with venerable churches and centuries-old cathedrals gracing her
skyline. She was a city of artists and craftsmen, of actors and
dancers, of tourists and the merchants and hotels that served them. 
Above all, what Dresden was, was defined during the war by what she
was not. She had no significant military or industrial installations.
Because of this, Dresden had become, above all other things that she
was, a city of children, of women, of refugees, and of the injured and
maimed who were recovering from their wounds in her many hospitals. 

These women and children, these wounded soldiers, these infirm and
elderly people, these refugees fleeing from the brutal onslaught of
the Communist armies to the East, had come to Dresden because it was
commonly believed at the time that Dresden would not be attacked. Its
lack of strategic or military or industrial significance, and the
well-known presence of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian
refugees and even Allied prisoners of war, seemed to guarantee safety
to the city. Surely, it was thought, not even a the most powerful and
determined enemy would be so depraved and sadistic, and so wasteful of
that enemy's own resources, to attack such a city. But the people of
Dresden, who were happily attending the cinema or eating dinner at
home or watching the show-horses in the circus on that fateful night
were wrong, wrong, wrong. And their leaders were also wrong, for the
city was virtually open and undefended and only minimal civil defense
preparations had been made. 

Dresden's population had almost doubled in the months before the
attack, mainly as a result of the influx of refugees from the Eastern
Front, most of them women and young children. 

According to British historian David Irving, the briefings given to
the British bomber squadrons before the attack on Dresden were
curiously different. In one, the soldiers were told that their target
was the railway center of Dresden. In another, they were told that the
target was a poison-gas factory. In yet another, they were told that
the target was a marshalling-grounds for troops in the city. Another
was told that the target was a major arsenal. These were all lies. 
The only marshalling-grounds for what few troops were in the area were
located well outside the city. The arsenal had burned down in 1916.
There were factories for toothpaste and baby-powder in Dresden, but
none for poison gas. There were, in fact, no fewer than eighteen
railway stations in Dresden, but only one was hit by the bombing, and
that was barely touched and in fact was operating again just three
days later. 

According to copious documentation unearthed by David Irving from the
archives of the American and British governments, the point of the
attack was in fact to inflict the maximum loss of life on the civilian
population and particularly to kill as many refugees as possible who
were fleeing from the Red Army. In achieving these goals it was highly
successful. It was thus planned and executed by those at the very
highest levels of the British and American governments, who to attain
their purposes even lied to their own soldiers and citizens, who to
this day have never been told the full story by their leaders. 
How was this devastating effect accomplished? 
At 10:10 PM on February 13th, the first wave of the attack, consisting
of the British Number 5 Bomber Group, began. The attacking force
consisted of about 2,000 bombers with additional support craft, which
dropped over 3,000 high explosive and 650,000 incendiary bombs (more
commonly known as firebombs) on the center of the city. Incendiary
bombs are not known for their efficiency per pound in destroying heavy
equipment such as military hardware or railroad tracks, but are
extremely effective in producing maximum loss of human life. The loads
carried by the bombers were over 75 per cent incendiaries. In fact,
the goal of the first wave of the attack was, according to British air
commander Sir Arthur Bomber Harris, to set the city well on fire. That
he did. 

The lack of any effective anti-aircraft defenses allowed the bombers
to drop to very low altitudes and thus a relatively high degree of
precision and visual identification of targets was achieved. Despite
the fact that they could clearly see that the marked target area
contained hospitals and sports stadia and residential areas of center
city Dresden, the bombers nevertheless obeyed orders and rained down a
fiery death upon the unlucky inhabitants of that city on a scale which
had never before been seen on planet Earth. 

Hundreds of thousands of innocents were literally consumed by fire, an
actual holocaust by the true definition of the word: complete
consumption by fire. 
  
 
 Dresden after its holocaust
The incendiaries started thousands of fires and, aided by a stiff wind
and the early-on destruction of the telephone exchanges that might
have summoned firefighters from nearby towns, these fires soon
coalesced into one unimaginably huge firestorm. Now such firestorms
are not natural phenomena, and are seldom created by man, so few
people have any idea of their nature. Basically, what happened was
this: The intense heat caused by the huge column of smoke and flame,
miles high and thousands of acres in area, created a terrific updraft
of air in the center of the column. 
This created a very low pressure at the base of the column, and
surrounding fresh air rushed inward at speeds estimated to be thirty
times that of an ordinary tornado. An ordinary tornado wind-force is a
result of temperature differences of perhaps 20 to 30 degrees
centigrade. In this firestorm the temperature differences were on the
order of 600 to 1,000 degrees centigrade. This inward-rushing air
further fed the flames, creating a literal tornado of fire, with winds
in the surrounding area of many hundreds of miles per hour -- sweeping
men, women, children, animals, vehicles and uprooted trees pell-mell
into the glowing inferno. 

But this was only the first stage of the plan. 
Exactly on schedule, three hours after the first attack, a second
massive armada of British bombers arrived, again loaded with high
explosive and massive quantities of incendiary bombs. The residents of
Dresden, their power systems destroyed by the first raid, had no
warning of the second. Again the British bombers attacked the center
city of Dresden, this time dividing their targets  -- one half of the
bombs were to be dropped into the center of the conflagration, to keep
it going, the other half around the edges of the firestorm. No
pretense whatever was made of selecting military targets. The timing
of the second armada was such as to ensure that a large quantity of
the surviving civilians would have emerged from their shelters by that
time, which was the case, and also in hopes that rescue and
firefighting crews would have arrived from surrounding cities, which
also proved to be true. The firefighters and medics thus incinerated
hadn't needed the telephone exchange to know that they were needed --
the firestorm was visible from a distance of 200 miles. 

It is reported that body parts, pieces of clothing, tree branches,
huge quantities of ashes, and miscellaneous debris from the firestorm
fell for days on the surrounding countryside as far away as eighteen
miles.
After the attack finally subsided, rescue workers found nothing but
liquefied remains of the inhabitants of some shelters, where even the
metal kitchen utensils had melted from the intense heat. 

The next day, Ash Wednesday and Valentine's Day, 1945, medical and
other emergency personnel from all over central Germany had converged
on Dresden. Little did they suspect that yet a third wave of bombers
was on its way, this time American. This attack had been carefully
coordinated with the previous raids. Four hundred fifty Flying
Fortresses and a support contingent of fighters arrived to finish the
job at noon. I quote from David Irving's The Destruction of Dresden: 

"Just a few hours before Dresden had been a fairy-tale city of spires
and cobbled streets .... now total war had put an end to all that.
..The ferocity of the US raid of 14th February had finally brought the
people to their knees... but it was not the bombs which finally
demoralised the people ... it was the Mustang fighters, which suddenly
appeared low over the city, firing on everything that moved .... one
section of the Mustangs concentrated on the river banks, where masses
of bombed-out people had gathered. ... British prisoners who had been
released from their burning camps were among the first to suffer the
discomfort of machine-gunning attacks .... wherever columns of
tramping people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced
on by the fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire."
[Image: Dresden skyline after Allied saturation bombing.] 

Ladies and gentlemen, on this program I can only give you a bare
glimpse of the inhuman horror of the holocaust of Dresden. In Dresden,
no fewer than 135,000 innocent victims died, with some estimates as
high as 300,000. More died in Dresden than died in the well-known
attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 

More destruction befell Dresden in one day than was inflicted on the
whole of Britain during the entire war. And yet you haven't been told.
I urge every one of you to read The Destruction of Dresden by David
Irving. I assure you, after reading Irving's book, you will never take
seriously the Establishment's version of what happened in that war
again. 

What you ought to take seriously, though, is the fact that the same
clique that controlled the traitorous Roosevelt and Churchill
governments, whose hatred of our race and civilization and whose
alliance with Communism were the real causes of the holocaust of
Dresden, still controls our government and our media today. It is they
who are pushing for a disarmed, racially mixed America. It is they who
promote the teaching of sodomy to our young children. It is they who
are destroying our industrial infrastructure in the name of a global
economy. It is they who created the drug subculture and then also the
police state agencies which pretend to fight it. 

The hour is very late for America and indeed for all of Western
civilization. But if patriots will heed our call, then there is no
reason for despair. For the enemies of our nation may have power, but
their power is based on lies. Won't you help us cut through the chain
of lies that holds our people in mental slavery? 
Every year, families should commemorate the anniversary of the
holocaust of Dresden on the eve of 13th February. 

Free Speech --  David Irving has generously made his Destruction of
Dresden available as a free download, in PDF format, at his Focal
Point
Press website.

--- 
 

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From: "Venceremos" 
Subject: ONCE AGAIN ZYD PLOTS A RUSSIAN REVOLUTION-Like 1917?

RUSSIA BEWARE, BORIS AND MOISHE ARE GOING FOR THE THROAT,again!

'I am plotting a new Russian revolution'

London exile ZYD Berezovsky says force necessary to bring down President
Putin

Ian Cobain and Matthew Taylor and Luke Harding in Moscow
Friday April 13, 2007
The Guardian

The Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky has told the Guardian he is
plotting the violent overthrow of President Putin from his base in
Britain after forging close contacts with members of Russia's ruling
elite.

In comments which appear calculated to enrage the Kremlin, and which
will further inflame relations between London and Moscow, the
multimillionaire claimed he was already bankrolling people close to
the president who are conspiring to mount a palace coup.

"We need to use force to change this regime," he said. "It isn't
possible to change this regime through democratic means. There can be
no change without force, pressure." Asked if he was effectively
fomenting a revolution, he said: "You are absolutely correct."

Although Mr Berezovsky, with an estimated fortune of Ł850m, may have
the means to finance such a plot, and although he enjoyed enormous
political influence in Russia before being forced into exile, he said
he could not provide details to back up his claims because the
information was too sensitive.

Last night the Kremlin denounced Mr Berezovsky's comments as a
criminal offence which it believed should undermine his refugee status
in the UK.

Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin's chief spokesman, said: "In accordance
with our legislation [his remarks are] being treated as a crime. It
will cause some questions from the British authorities to Mr
Berezovsky. We want to believe that official London will never grant
asylum to someone who wants to use force to change the regime in
Russia."

It will not be the first time the British government has faced
accusations from the Kremlin that it is providing a safe haven for Mr
Berezovsky. When he told a Moscow radio station last year that he
wanted to see Mr Putin overthrown by force, Jack Straw, then foreign
secretary, told the Commons that "advocating the violent overthrow of
a sovereign state is unacceptable" and warned the tycoon he could be
stripped of his refugee status.

Russian authorities subsequently sent an extradition request to
London. That failed, however, when a district judge ruled Mr
Berezovsky could not be extradited as long as he has asylum status.

In an interview with the Guardian, however, Mr Berezovsky goes much
further than before, claiming to be in close contact with members of
Russia's political elite who, he says, share his view that Mr Putin is
damaging Russia by rolling back democratic reforms, smothering
opposition, centralising power and flouting the country's
constitution.

"There is no chance of regime change through democratic elections," he
says. "If one part of the political elite disagrees with another part
of the political elite - that is the only way in Russia to change the
regime. I try to move that."

While declining to describe these contacts - and alleging that they
would be murdered if they were identified - he maintained that he was
offering his "experience and ideology" to members of the country's
political elite, as well as "my understanding of how it could be
done". He added: "There are also practical steps which I am doing now,
and mostly it is financial."

Mr Berezovsky said he was unconcerned by any threat to strip him of
his refugee status. "Straw wasn't in a position to take that decision.
A judge in court said it wasn't in the jurisdiction of Straw."

He added that there was even less chance of such a decision being
taken following the polonium-210 poisoning last November of his former
employee, Alexander Litvinenko. "Today the reality is different
because of the Litvinenko case."

Mr Berezovsky, 61, a former mathematician, turned to business during
the Yeltsin years and made his fortune by capturing state assets at
knockdown prices during Russia's rush towards privatisation.

Although he played a key role in ensuring Mr Putin's victory in the
2000 presidential elections, the two men fell out as the newly elected
leader successfully wrested control of Russia back from the so-called
oligarchy, the small group of tycoons who had come to dominate the
country's economy.

A few months after the election Mr Berezovsky fled Russia, and applied
successfully for asylum in the UK after Mr Litvinenko, an officer with
the KGB's successor, the FSB, came forward to say he had been ordered
to murder the tycoon.

Mr Berezovsky changed his name to Platon Elenin, Platon being the name
of a character in a Russian film based loosely upon his life. He was
subsequently given a British passport in this name.

As well as claiming to be financing and encouraging coup plotters in
Moscow, Mr Berezovsky said he had dedicated much of the last six years
to "trying to destroy the positive image of Putin" that many in the
west held, portraying him whenever possible as a dangerously anti-
democratic figure. He said he had also opposed the Russian president
through Kommersant, the influential Russian newspaper which he
controlled until last year.

Last month Mr Berezovsky was questioned by two detectives from the
Russian prosecutor general's office who were in London to investigate
the death of Mr Litvinenko. He has denied claims that he refused to
answer many of their questions.

Last night the Kremlin said Russian authorities might want to question
him again in the light of his interview with the Guardian. "I now
believe our prosecutor general's office has got lots of questions for
Mr Berezovsky," said Mr Peskov. He added: "His words are very
interesting. This is a very sensitive issue."

The Foreign Office said it had nothing to add to Mr Straw's comments
of last year.


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ZYD CRIMES IN RUSSIA  EXPOSED FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE
No wonder normal people hate the filthy Christkiller ZYDS, after more than
2000 years!

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:23:48 -0400, in soc.culture.canada "serwad"
 wrote:

Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution

Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of ZYDS/Jews in 
Soviet-era repression

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist 
gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his 
writing career - the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet 
purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of 
the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the 
repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together - a reference to the 
1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the 
Russian Jewish population - contains three chapters discussing the Jewish 
role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet 
Russia.

  But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book, 
and questioned Solzhenitsyn's motives in writing it, accusing him of factual 
inaccuracies and of fanning the flames of anti-semitism in Russia.
Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period 
"consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians" as being behind the 
genocide. But he states that all the nation's ethnic groups must share the 
blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish 
experience.

In one remark which infuriated Russian Jews, he wrote: "If I would care to 
generalise, and to say that the life of the Jews in the camps was especially 
hard, I could, and would not face reproach for an unjust national 
generalisation. But in the camps where I was kept, it was different. The 
Jews whose experience I saw - their life was softer than that of others."

Yet he added: "But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal 
question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the 
actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds 
were Jews, is certainly incorrect."

Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of 
his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about 
his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given 
last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and 
revolutionary genocides - and that its Jewish population should be as 
offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power 
that also persecuted them.

"My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the 
psychology of the Jews - their spiritual component," he said. "I have never 
made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between 
layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to 
the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time 
was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the 
best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about 
us."

But Solzhenitsyn's book has caused controversy in Russia, where one Jewish 
leader said it was "not of any merit".

"This is a mistake, but even geniuses make mistakes," said Yevgeny 
Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress. "Richard Wagner did 
not like the Jews, but was a great composer. Dostoyevsky was a great Russian 
writer, but had a very sceptical attitude towards the Jews.

"This is not a book about how the Jews and Russians lived together for 200 
years, but one about how they lived apart after finding themselves on the 
same territory. This book is a weak one professionally. Factually, it is so 
bad as to be beyond criticism. As literature, it is not of any merit."

But DM Thomas, one of Solzhenitsyn's biographers, said that he did not think 
the book was fuelled by anti-semitism. "I would not doubt his sincerity. He 
says that he firmly supports the state of Israel. In his fiction and factual 
writing there are Jewish characters that he writes about who are bright, 
decent, anti-Stalinist people."

Professor Robert Service of Oxford University, an expert on 20th century 
Russian history, said that from what he had read about the book, 
Solzhenitsyn was "absolutely right".

Researching a book on Lenin, Prof Service came across details of how 
Trotsky, who was of Jewish origin, asked the politburo in 1919 to ensure 
that Jews were enrolled in the Red army. Trotsky said that Jews were 
disproportionately represented in the Soviet civil bureaucracy, including 
the cheka.

"Trotsky's idea was that the spread of anti-semitism was [partly down to] 
objections about their entrance into the civil service. There is something 
in this; that they were not just passive spectators of the revolution. They 
were part-victims and part-perpetrators.

"It is not a question that anyone can write about without a huge amount of 
bravery, and [it] needs doing in Russia because the Jews are quite often 
written about by fanatics. Mr Solzhenitsyn's book seems much more measured 
than that."

Yet others failed to see the need for Solzhenitsyn's pursuit of this 
particular subject at present. Vassili Berezhkov, a retired KGB colonel and 
historian of the secret services and the NKVD (the precursor of the KGB), 
said: "The question of ethnicity did not have any importance either in the 
revolution or the story of the NKVD. This was a social revolution and those 
who served in the NKVD and cheka were serving ideas of social change.

"If Solzhenitsyn writes that there were many Jews in the NKVD, it will 
increase the passions of anti-semitism, which has deep roots in Russian 
history. I think it is better not to discuss such a question now."



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Vergiss niemals die verfluechte  Kristmordern ZYDS/Juden!

ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE  MORDUJE W RUSSIA - Pravda/Wahrheit

Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt.
polityce.nacjonalizm.biel "Whip"
< nowhere@none > napisał:

"żYDOWSKI RYTUAł MORDUJE" W RUSSIA
PIĘĆ DZIECI ZNALAZłO CAłKOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SPłYNĘłA OD CIAł!
TRUPY zostały USTAWIONE w płomieniach, BY SCHOWAĆ KREW SPłYWAJąCą

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed początkiem Jewish Passover
dalej April 23, pięć dzieci, Muslim i Christian, "znikniętego" w
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk.  ich spalone ciała zostały
znalezione w kanalizacyjny dół.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj że
dużo Rosjanie w mieście są przekonani, że dzieci rytualnie zostały
zamordowane przez miejscowych Jews, którzy później spłonęli ich ciała ukryć
zbrodnię i zapobiec eksperci znaleźć w ciałach brak krwi, która jest
użyta przez Hasidic Żydzi dla celów rytuału.

Mało ludzi w mieście wierzy, że Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek
przychodzą do próby i, że morderstwa właściwie byłyby rozjaśnione
przez policyjnego investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny
Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentujący zainteresowania rodziców z
zamordowane dzieci powiedziały papierowi, że 5 niezależnych ekspertów
potwierdziło brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych ciałach.

" Jestem pewny, że to było rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem", on
powiedział.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups
Centrum, uzgadnia, że to było rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezależny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski
że jest duża Jewish społeczność w Krasnoyarsk i że
władze robią w ich moc czego, by ukryć, że to rytualne morderstwo
zaangażowane przez Żydzi. Świadek doniósł widzenie ciał dzieci
rzuconych nietkniętych dół jako zakazał przez Jewish rytuał i wtedy ktoś
spalony wtedy do ukrywają rany rytuału w określonych miejscach ciał 
zrobionych dla wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedział.

Badacz przypomniał dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913.
miejscowy Żydowski aktywista społeczności, Beilis, został zatrzymany i został
oskarżony morderstwa i później wypuścił przez sąd z powodu
niewystarczającego dowodu, z mniejszym nadwyżka wagi między sądem.

"Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky też miało miejsce mało dnia przed
Żydowski Passover, jego ciało też zostało skrwawione i zostało
rzucone pogrzeb", Mr którego Nazarov powiedział.

"I Beilis należał do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic gałęzi Judaism jako
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar ... kopie American gangstes
ćwiczy się (on został urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z
poparciem Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish
Governor Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin", Pan, z którym Nazarov dołączył jego
wywiad papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedź światową najlepszy ocenioną
stronę internetową dla  JEW - WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Teraz z więcej dowodem wychodzącym udowadniającym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z
NAZIŚCI - innych 51 przypadków oprócz sławnego przypadku Kastner - nic
dziwne ludzie dookoła świata naprawdę nie lubią Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawierają:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J. Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
JAZEERA AL - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
DRUT HOFFMAN - Dedicated do Freedom Press,
    Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History
    Poprzyj: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Albo, odwiedź stronę internetową dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :
http://www.natall.com
Oni mają dużo informacji, jak również książki i zapisy.


Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < Art@Arthurian.com >, albo do
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, albo Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Czuć się swobodnie , by zaprenumerować nas do maillists dla płci,
homoseksualistów i podobnego.


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ZYD  Ritual Moerder der Kinder / Ritual Murder of Children-  Documented
No wonder  so many good Christian people really dislike the filthy  ZYDs 
known as Christkillers for more than 2000 years!

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip"
 wrote:

ZYD/JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; 
BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover 
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the 
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk.  Their burnt bodies have been found in 
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many 
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered 
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent 
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic 
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial 
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in 
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of 
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed 
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

"I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring 
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses 
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the 
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the 
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in 
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to 
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the 
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local 
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder 
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor 
overweight among the jury.

"The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the 
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without 
burial", Mr Nazarov said.

"And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the 
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes 
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, 
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the 
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with 
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 


On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:06:27 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>A well researched and documented article,deserving re-posting worldwide.

>On 4 Apr 2007 21:01:42 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "dsfkfnir
>lfdsjsafd"  wrote:

>BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WORKS SUPPORTING
>THE BLOOD ACCUSATION.

>Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band
>of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and
>1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by
>Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century.

> Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher
>(Gaume et Freres, 1845).

> Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler.

> Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice,
>1853-4).

> Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These
>two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent.

> Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill &
>Sons).

> Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913.

> Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563.

> A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into
>England, by William Prynne, 1656.

> Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant.

> Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und
>das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague
>Cathedral.

> La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue
>Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs.

> Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by
>Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is
>devoted to Ritual Murders.

> Le Mystčre du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri
>Desportes, 1889 (Savine).

> Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from
>M. Petit, 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general
>guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was
>Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals.

> Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt.

> Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag).

> Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927.

> Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich
>Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national
>representation of Jewish Ritual Murder."

> Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929.

> Der Stürmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg.
>The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate
>against the editor of Der Stürmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a
>valuable historical record.

> The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W.
>H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898).

> Isabella of Spain, by W. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125,
>439-468, and 628.
>References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder
>are made in the text when describing these cases.

>To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the
>Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion,
>appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C.
>Roth (Woburn Press, 1935)

From: Papadillos 
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Haaretz Daily
Last update - 13:57 20/03/2008

In Russia's third largest city, the blood libel is resurfacing

By Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz Correspondent

The blood libel is alive and well in certain circles in Russia. Dozens of
posters have appeared of late in Russia's third largest city, warning
residents to keep a close eye on their children as Passover approaches, lest
they fall victim to Jews seeking to make matzah out of their blood.

The posters, adhered to the walls of houses in the Siberian city of
Novosibirsk, warn: "These vermin are still performing rituals, stealing
small children and draining their blood to make their sacred bread."

They also link a recent spate of child disappearances and murders to Jewish
ritual sacrifices. 
 
The blood libel claims that Jews use the blood of gentiles - particularly
gentile children - to make ritual unleavened bread for Passover. It has been
around for centuries, prevalent primarily in Europe where it was used to
stir up violence and harsh reprisals against the Jewish community.

Amos Herman, Chairman of the Jewish Agency's branch responsible for fighting
anti-Semitism stated that "We are certain that the government of Russia will
find the perpetrators of this crime and solve this problem once and for
all." 

The Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia recently expressed concern
about the rise in attacks targeting Jews, calling it part of "a recent surge
in anti-Semitic manifestations" in Russia.

In 2007, 67 people were killed and more than 550 injured in ethnically
motivated attacks, according the SOVA rights center, which monitors hate
crimes. 

According to varying estimates, between 300,000 and 1.5 million Jews live in
the nation of 142 million. After an exodus in the years before and after
1991 Soviet collapse, the Jewish community is experiencing a moderate
revival, with new synagogues, schools and cultural centers being built
across the country.

During the Soviet era, thousands of Jews were imprisoned or executed as part
of nationwide purges, and many more were forced to conceal their Jewish
identity. 

Resurgence of the blood libel

Last year, Professor Ariel Toaff of Bar-Ilan University ignited a storm of
controversy when he published a book in Italy alleging that there is a
factual basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.

Toaff stood by his findings published in the book "Pasque di Sangue", but
said he was sorry his arguments had been twisted and later released a
revised edition of the book that clarified that Jews were not involved in
ritualized murder in medieval Europe.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966611.html

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Haaretz Daily
Last update - 13:57 20/03/2008

In Russia's third largest city, the blood libel is resurfacing

By Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz Correspondent

The blood libel is alive and well in certain circles in Russia. Dozens of
posters have appeared of late in Russia's third largest city, warning
residents to keep a close eye on their children as Passover approaches, lest
they fall victim to Jews seeking to make matzah out of their blood.

The posters, adhered to the walls of houses in the Siberian city of
Novosibirsk, warn: "These vermin are still performing rituals, stealing
small children and draining their blood to make their sacred bread."

They also link a recent spate of child disappearances and murders to Jewish
ritual sacrifices. 
 
The blood libel claims that Jews use the blood of gentiles - particularly
gentile children - to make ritual unleavened bread for Passover. It has been
around for centuries, prevalent primarily in Europe where it was used to
stir up violence and harsh reprisals against the Jewish community.

Amos Herman, Chairman of the Jewish Agency's branch responsible for fighting
anti-Semitism stated that "We are certain that the government of Russia will
find the perpetrators of this crime and solve this problem once and for
all." 

The Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia recently expressed concern
about the rise in attacks targeting Jews, calling it part of "a recent surge
in anti-Semitic manifestations" in Russia.

In 2007, 67 people were killed and more than 550 injured in ethnically
motivated attacks, according the SOVA rights center, which monitors hate
crimes. 

According to varying estimates, between 300,000 and 1.5 million Jews live in
the nation of 142 million. After an exodus in the years before and after
1991 Soviet collapse, the Jewish community is experiencing a moderate
revival, with new synagogues, schools and cultural centers being built
across the country.

During the Soviet era, thousands of Jews were imprisoned or executed as part
of nationwide purges, and many more were forced to conceal their Jewish
identity. 

Resurgence of the blood libel

Last year, Professor Ariel Toaff of Bar-Ilan University ignited a storm of
controversy when he published a book in Italy alleging that there is a
factual basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.

Toaff stood by his findings published in the book "Pasque di Sangue", but
said he was sorry his arguments had been twisted and later released a
revised edition of the book that clarified that Jews were not involved in
ritualized murder in medieval Europe.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966611.html


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 23:54:04 GMT, in can.politics "Moishe Lipschitz"
 wrote:

http://www.theunjustmedia.com/jew%20organized%20crime.htm


For the real TRUTH about ZYDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for ZYDS= JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
or to Steve Horn ,
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
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From: Frank Arthur 
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Subject: ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
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Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, are
doomed to repeat history. 
Always the cursed Christkillers/ZYDS  cause problems!

With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZYD  COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
HOLOHOAX figures!!

Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO 
KOLLABORATEUR!!

>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:
>
>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.
>
>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.
>
>
>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>>wrote:
>
>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>
>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>>                alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next "relocation"!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>John Bryant
>
>TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
>G. K. Chesterton.
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
>Reply-To: "George" ,
>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
>


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Vergiss niemals die verfluechte  Kristmordern ZYDS!!

ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE  MORDUJE W RUSSIA - Pravda/Wahrheit

Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt.
polityce.nacjonalizm.biel "Whip"
< nowhere@none > napisał:

"żYDOWSKI RYTUAł MORDUJE" W RUSSIA
PIĘĆ DZIECI ZNALAZłO CAłKOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SPłYNĘłA OD CIAł!
TRUPY zostały USTAWIONE w płomieniach, BY SCHOWAĆ KREW SPłYWAJąCą

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed początkiem Jewish Passover
dalej April 23, pięć dzieci, Muslim i Christian, "znikniętego" w
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk.  ich spalone ciała zostały
znalezione w kanalizacyjny dół.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj że
dużo Rosjanie w mieście są przekonani, że dzieci rytualnie zostały
zamordowane przez miejscowych Jews, którzy później spłonęli ich ciała ukryć
zbrodnię i zapobiec eksperci znaleźć w ciałach brak krwi, która jest
użyta przez Hasidic Żydzi dla celów rytuału.

Mało ludzi w mieście wierzy, że Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek
przychodzą do próby i, że morderstwa właściwie byłyby rozjaśnione
przez policyjnego investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny
Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentujący zainteresowania rodziców z
zamordowane dzieci powiedziały papierowi, że 5 niezależnych ekspertów
potwierdziło brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych ciałach.

" Jestem pewny, że to było rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem", on
powiedział.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups
Centrum, uzgadnia, że to było rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezależny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski
że jest duża Jewish społeczność w Krasnoyarsk i że
władze robią w ich moc czego, by ukryć, że to rytualne morderstwo
zaangażowane przez Żydzi. Świadek doniósł widzenie ciał dzieci
rzuconych nietkniętych dół jako zakazał przez Jewish rytuał i wtedy ktoś
spalony wtedy do ukrywają rany rytuału w określonych miejscach ciał 
zrobionych dla wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedział.

Badacz przypomniał dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913.
miejscowy Żydowski aktywista społeczności, Beilis, został zatrzymany i został
oskarżony morderstwa i później wypuścił przez sąd z powodu
niewystarczającego dowodu, z mniejszym nadwyżka wagi między sądem.

"Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky też miało miejsce mało dnia przed
Żydowski Passover, jego ciało też zostało skrwawione i zostało
rzucone pogrzeb", Mr którego Nazarov powiedział.

"I Beilis należał do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic gałęzi Judaism jako
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar ... kopie American gangstes
ćwiczy się (on został urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z
poparciem Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish
Governor Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin", Pan, z którym Nazarov dołączył jego
wywiad papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedź światową najlepszy ocenioną
stronę internetową dla  JEW - WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Teraz z więcej dowodem wychodzącym udowadniającym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z
NAZIŚCI - innych 51 przypadków oprócz sławnego przypadku Kastner - nic
dziwne ludzie dookoła świata naprawdę nie lubią Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawierają:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J. Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
JAZEERA AL - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
DRUT HOFFMAN - Dedicated do Freedom Press,
    Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History
    Poprzyj: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Albo, odwiedź stronę internetową dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :
http://www.natall.com
Oni mają dużo informacji, jak również książki i zapisy.


Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < Art@Arthurian.com >, albo do
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, albo Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Czuć się swobodnie , by zaprenumerować nas do maillists dla płci,
homoseksualistów i podobnego.


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From: Frank Arthur 
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Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, are
doomed to repeat history. 
Always the cursed Christkillers/ZYDS  cause problems!

With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZYD  COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
HOLOHOAX figures!!

Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO 
KOLLABORATEUR!!

>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:
>
>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.
>
>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.
>
>
>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>>wrote:
>
>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>
>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>>                alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next "relocation"!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>John Bryant
>
>TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
>G. K. Chesterton.
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
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>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.
>
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From: "Venceremos" 
Subject: ONCE AGAIN ZYD PLOTS A RUSSIAN REVOLUTION-Like 1917?

RUSSIA BEWARE, BORIS AND MOISHE ARE GOING FOR THE THROAT,again!

'I am plotting a new Russian revolution'

London exile ZYD Berezovsky says force necessary to bring down President
Putin

Ian Cobain and Matthew Taylor and Luke Harding in Moscow
Friday April 13, 2007
The Guardian

The Russian tycoon Boris Berezovsky has told the Guardian he is
plotting the violent overthrow of President Putin from his base in
Britain after forging close contacts with members of Russia's ruling
elite.

In comments which appear calculated to enrage the Kremlin, and which
will further inflame relations between London and Moscow, the
multimillionaire claimed he was already bankrolling people close to
the president who are conspiring to mount a palace coup.

"We need to use force to change this regime," he said. "It isn't
possible to change this regime through democratic means. There can be
no change without force, pressure." Asked if he was effectively
fomenting a revolution, he said: "You are absolutely correct."

Although Mr Berezovsky, with an estimated fortune of Ł850m, may have
the means to finance such a plot, and although he enjoyed enormous
political influence in Russia before being forced into exile, he said
he could not provide details to back up his claims because the
information was too sensitive.

Last night the Kremlin denounced Mr Berezovsky's comments as a
criminal offence which it believed should undermine his refugee status
in the UK.

Dmitry Peskov, the Kremlin's chief spokesman, said: "In accordance
with our legislation [his remarks are] being treated as a crime. It
will cause some questions from the British authorities to Mr
Berezovsky. We want to believe that official London will never grant
asylum to someone who wants to use force to change the regime in
Russia."

It will not be the first time the British government has faced
accusations from the Kremlin that it is providing a safe haven for Mr
Berezovsky. When he told a Moscow radio station last year that he
wanted to see Mr Putin overthrown by force, Jack Straw, then foreign
secretary, told the Commons that "advocating the violent overthrow of
a sovereign state is unacceptable" and warned the tycoon he could be
stripped of his refugee status.

Russian authorities subsequently sent an extradition request to
London. That failed, however, when a district judge ruled Mr
Berezovsky could not be extradited as long as he has asylum status.

In an interview with the Guardian, however, Mr Berezovsky goes much
further than before, claiming to be in close contact with members of
Russia's political elite who, he says, share his view that Mr Putin is
damaging Russia by rolling back democratic reforms, smothering
opposition, centralising power and flouting the country's
constitution.

"There is no chance of regime change through democratic elections," he
says. "If one part of the political elite disagrees with another part
of the political elite - that is the only way in Russia to change the
regime. I try to move that."

While declining to describe these contacts - and alleging that they
would be murdered if they were identified - he maintained that he was
offering his "experience and ideology" to members of the country's
political elite, as well as "my understanding of how it could be
done". He added: "There are also practical steps which I am doing now,
and mostly it is financial."

Mr Berezovsky said he was unconcerned by any threat to strip him of
his refugee status. "Straw wasn't in a position to take that decision.
A judge in court said it wasn't in the jurisdiction of Straw."

He added that there was even less chance of such a decision being
taken following the polonium-210 poisoning last November of his former
employee, Alexander Litvinenko. "Today the reality is different
because of the Litvinenko case."

Mr Berezovsky, 61, a former mathematician, turned to business during
the Yeltsin years and made his fortune by capturing state assets at
knockdown prices during Russia's rush towards privatisation.

Although he played a key role in ensuring Mr Putin's victory in the
2000 presidential elections, the two men fell out as the newly elected
leader successfully wrested control of Russia back from the so-called
oligarchy, the small group of tycoons who had come to dominate the
country's economy.

A few months after the election Mr Berezovsky fled Russia, and applied
successfully for asylum in the UK after Mr Litvinenko, an officer with
the KGB's successor, the FSB, came forward to say he had been ordered
to murder the tycoon.

Mr Berezovsky changed his name to Platon Elenin, Platon being the name
of a character in a Russian film based loosely upon his life. He was
subsequently given a British passport in this name.

As well as claiming to be financing and encouraging coup plotters in
Moscow, Mr Berezovsky said he had dedicated much of the last six years
to "trying to destroy the positive image of Putin" that many in the
west held, portraying him whenever possible as a dangerously anti-
democratic figure. He said he had also opposed the Russian president
through Kommersant, the influential Russian newspaper which he
controlled until last year.

Last month Mr Berezovsky was questioned by two detectives from the
Russian prosecutor general's office who were in London to investigate
the death of Mr Litvinenko. He has denied claims that he refused to
answer many of their questions.

Last night the Kremlin said Russian authorities might want to question
him again in the light of his interview with the Guardian. "I now
believe our prosecutor general's office has got lots of questions for
Mr Berezovsky," said Mr Peskov. He added: "His words are very
interesting. This is a very sensitive issue."

The Foreign Office said it had nothing to add to Mr Straw's comments
of last year.


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Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

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IHR - www.ihr.org
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PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
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From Art@arthurian.com Tue Apr 15 15:47:31 EDT 2008
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Canada should immediately get out of Afghanistan, and also Iraq.
Canada has no legal right to be yet one more invader of a sovereign 
nation, who never invited the stupid Canucks to invade.

That Canada has failed to learn from history, such as the recent 
experiences of many thousands of the Russians killed in Afghanistan 
is just one more example of the blind being led by the criminally stupid, 
the US.

If Canada does not pull out all the Canadians from Afghanistan, now, 
they had better have a huge stock of body bags ready, for both male 
and female corpses.

Canada will then be forced to learn what Russia learned - the hard way. 
And don't forget, Afghanistan is a predominately Muslim nation, so do not 
be surprised if other Islamic nations join in, against Canada, with who knows
what consequences - all just because 
some wanker politicians wanted to kiss Dubya's butt!


On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:01:10 -0500, "Islam Will Replace Collapsing Amerikan
Empire"  wrote:

>Canada, Get Out of Afghanistan
>
>By Eric Margolis
>
>03/14/06 "ICH" -- -- PARIS - Scattered across South Africa's windswept veldt 
>are the forgotten graves of 266 Canadian soldiers killed from 1899-1902 
>fighting to impose British Imperial rule on fiercely resisting Boer farmers.
>
>A century later, Canadian troops have again been sent to fight as 
>auxiliaries in another remote war - this time Afghanistan.
>
>Since time immemorial, when great emperors went to war, they summoned 
>contingents of their vassals and tributaries to their standards. So it was 
>in Afghanistan, and then Iraq, when the U.S. decided to invade those nations 
>and demand its allies join the so-called "war on terrorism."
>
>Under irresistible pressure from Washington to aid its highly unpopular 
>military expeditions in either Iraq or Afghanistan, America's allies and 
>NATO partners opted for the lesser evil, Afghanistan.
>
>That is why 2,100 Canadian troops have ended up in a nation in which Canada 
>has absolutely no strategic, commercial, cultural or emotional interests.
>
>Now, as the number of Canadian military casualties rises, the dismayed 
>public rightly asks, "What are we doing there? We thought it was another 
>peacekeeping mission."
>
>Thank Ottawa and Canada's media for misinforming the public. There was no 
>significant debate in Parliament. The media indulged in flag-waving instead 
>of warning Canadians they were walking into a small, but real, war.
>
>Canadians are not peacekeeping in Kandahar: There is no peace to keep. They 
>are there to help impose U.S. rule over Afghanistan, and safeguard routes 
>for planned oil pipelines.
>
>Canadian soldiers are on a war-fighting mission, auxiliaries in the U.S.-led 
>military occupation of Afghanistan. In the southern heartland of the 
>nation's largest tribe, the famously warlike and xenophobic Pashtun, U.S. 
>forces and their allies are seen as foreign occupiers and enemies of Islam. 
>Pashtun are slow to act but ferocious, and they never forget a wrong.
>
>For some reason, Ottawa agreed to put its little garrison into Afghanistan's 
>most dangerous area, Kandahar, in the centre of Pashtun territory and the 
>heartland of the Taliban. Afghans do not differentiate between Americans and 
>Canadians.
>
>Fierce tribes
>
>Afghan tribes are taking up arms against their foreign occupiers. I saw this 
>happen during the 1980s, when growing hatred of Soviet occupation forces 
>ignited a national uprising.
>
>Today, in the eyes of many Afghans, the U.S. has merely replaced the 
>Soviets. All past occupiers, starting with Alexander the Great, were driven 
>out by the fierce Afghan tribes.
>
>Canucks are prime targets. They lack effective liaison with circling U.S. 
>warplanes that normally bomb and rocket any attackers within 2-3 minutes of 
>an assault. Such deadly instant response by U.S. air power forced the 
>resistance to resort to roadside explosives and car bombs, as in Iraq.
>
>National resistance is growing. The U.S.-installed Karzai regime in Kabul 
>would not last a day without foreign bayonets.
>
>The former Taliban regime almost totally suppressed the heroin trade. Today, 
>Afghanistan is a narcostate. It supplies 90% of the world's heroin - the 
>economy runs on drug money. This is the "democratic" régime Canadian troops 
>are defending with their lives.
>
>Parliament, media, and all Canadians have got to begin debating what their 
>soldiers are doing in this war that lacks any foreseeable political 
>resolution. Forget all the cheery propaganda fed to the gullible press: 
>Afghanistan is a dangerous mess and Canadians are right in the middle of it.
>
>When more body bags come home from Kandahar, as they likely will, Canada's 
>politicians are going to have to start explaining to the public what, 
>exactly, its soldiers are dying for in Afghanistan.
>
>Eric Margolis, < margolis@foreigncorrespondent.com > contributing foreign 
>editor for Sun National Media Canada, is the author of War at the Top of the 
>World. http://www.ericmargolis.com/
>
>http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12327.htm 
>



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The so called greek christians have obliterated more ancient art then
any Muslim. It was very fashionable and endorsed by the fag orthodox
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For much  longer than the past 2000 plus years, people all around the world 
have suffered because of the Christkiller ZYDS. 

Never forget what ZYDS have done, and still do. 
No wonder thinking people dislike the  filthy ZYDS so much.


On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:06:32 -0700, Samisdat2 ,  in
wrote:
>On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
> wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZYDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZYD COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

>Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!
>
>More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
>COLLABORATION with the nazis!!
>
>Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
>ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?

>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:
>
>It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
>Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
>COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!
>
>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>>> wrote:
>
>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS with
>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>>public.
>
>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.
>
>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!
>
>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>> wrote:
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
>>>September 2004, page 86 
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It's no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
>>>coverage in the American media. 

Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters,
statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
earlier  book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents
Zionist cooperration with the Nazis. 

On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
new Jewish nation. 

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
>
>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response. 
>
>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini's Italy.
>>>Brenner's brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.
>
>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
>>>eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for instance, is that
>>>they had a financial deal?Ha'avara?with Germany allowing Jews to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
>>>the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of 'nationality' versus
>>>citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
>>>same concept. 
>
>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
>>>the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
>>>Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
>>>threatened European brethren.
>
>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on Feb.
>>>18, 1943:
>
>>>And when some asked me: Can't you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>'No!  And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I'm guilty, for the fact
>>>that we don't give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)
>
>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
>>>themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
>>>as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined to keep
>>>it that way. 
>
>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,'assimilation' of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level, not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, 'It is impossible for a man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own'
>
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).
>
>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN  GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.
>
>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).
>
>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.
>
>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
>>>cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
>>>another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.
>
>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
>>>information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives 'both Palestinian and
>>>Israeli' in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
>>>not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
>>>examining Zionism.
>
>
># 5                           The Kastner Case
>
>Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS - 1981
>
>Introduction
>
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is 
>that involving Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. 
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that 
>there is some "controversy" about negotiations he undertook 
>for "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military 
>equipment," but that he was "fully rehabilitated" by the
>Supreme Court of Israel.
>
>The Accusations
>
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the 
>British Medical Research Council, was one of the few 
>escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in 
>February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
>
>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - 
>I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly 
>deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to 
>their brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their 
>own lives with the price of silence. 
>
>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
>for all Jews in Hungary. 
>While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is
>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me 
>when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian 
>Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned 
>to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...
>Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, "I know of your plans;
>spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet."
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. 
>uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. 
>
>Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this 
>ittle fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom 
>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the 
>commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off 
>in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for 
>future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's 
>directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. 
>
>This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold 
>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the 
>Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the 
>collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to 
>Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the 
>camps, the price...was not too high for me.
>
>"...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, 
>Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse. 
>While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after 
>another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them 
>with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>"Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for 
>a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...
>
>"As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity 
>between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these 
>immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>blood to achieve his political goal...
>'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have 
>this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great 
>service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I 
>would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner." 
>(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, 
>do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for 
>money and military equipment."
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. 
>When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli 
>citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the 
>Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his 
>views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist 
>official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of 
>Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General 
>of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>-88-
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
>nord@powernetonline.com
>
>
>Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!
>
>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12
>
>The Kastner Case
>-----------------
>Introduction
>
>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all and
>will show that on this question 'The documentation available is overwhelming
>and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks claimed in one of the
>extracts complained about by the VJBD.
>
>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the most
>'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration broadcast
>on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.
>
>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books in as
>evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears strongest,
>and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we hope it may
>become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite what they may have
>appeared before this inquiry began.
>
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>
>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.
>
>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.
>
>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing with
>the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert like Dr.
>Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has been unable to
>find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>----------------
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with the
>price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which
>spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz
>- the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in
>1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized
>representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about
>my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>not too high for me.
>
>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he
>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep
>the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid,
>p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel prosecuted
>Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>------------
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR, has
>been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism, in bad
>taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower these
>few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.



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Still another  mass grave of Poles Murdered  By  the Chritkiller ZYDs/SOVIET
NKVD Found in Ukraine - NOT by Germans!

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:03:45 -0400, in alt.revisionism
chester_field@fastmail.fm wrote:

A Ukrainian government commission has concluded that thousands of
people buried in a mass grave outside Kiev were killed during Stalin's
purges, not by Nazi soldiers.

Halyna Pastushuk reports from Kyiv,

12.08.06

The commission's conclusion supports the testimony of elderly
witnesses in the nearby village of Bykovnia, who said they saw trucks
dripping blood en route to the site in the 1930's, before the Nazis
occupied the area.
Unofficial estimates put the number of bodies in the grave at 200,000
to 300,000.
Villagers in Bykovnia broke five decades of silence to accuse Stalin's
secret police after the Ukrainian government erected a monument in May
1988 blaming Nazi occupiers for the crime. The villagers in December
forced Ukrainian authorities to establish the commission, saying three
previous investigations had covered up the truth by blaming Nazi
troops.
Dr. S?awomir Kalbarczyk, Chief Commission for the Prosecution of
Crimes against the Polish Nation, said during the international
scientific conference “Archeology and Terror” conference that took
place in Tallin in Novembre 2005:
It is worth mentioning that the Bykovnia pits did not say their „last
world” and may provide still a lot of valuable information, since the
Ukrainian authorities plan to carry out further exhumations there.
They were to be conducted in August last year, however were postponed
til this year. The National Remembrance Institute’s prosecutors have
been invited in the capacity of observers.
There were found in Bykovnia numerous objects, belonging undoubtedly
to the Polish citizens, among others, the uniforms, military caps,
“knee-boots”, Polish coins (including their issue of 1939), and also
the objects manufactured in Poland or in the Western Europe.
Unfortunately, all those things were separated from the corpses, so
they could not be attributed to any concrete persons. One thing is
however of a crucial value – it is a driving license belonging to the
person who appears on a partial list of the executed civilians, drawn
up by the NKVD (those who were murdered in Ukraine).

Besides, the Ukrainian soil conceals more secrets. In 1997, the
Ukrainian authorities carried out exhumations in the neighborhood of
the former NKVD prison in Vladimir in Volhynien in order to check
information disclosed by the local population on burial of Stalin’s
regime victims at that place. From death-pits there were excavated the
remains of 100 persons, whose skulls had bullet holes in their rear
part. With the corpses there were many items of the Polish origin:
shoulder boards of the Polish military men and policemen, uniform
buttons with the image of the White Eagle, etc. Just recently, the
Institute of National Remembrance has been informed that one of the
investigations, conducted by the Military Prosecutor’s Office in
Ukraine brought to discovery in Kiev of the remains of 270
unidentified Polish officers. In cooperation with the Ukrainian party
Poles will do their very best to explain this gloomy atrocity which,
supposedly, may have a certain link with the Katyn Crime. Such
assumptions are justified as a trace of the prisoners murdered in
Ukraine breaks off, among others, in the Kiev prison. 

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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ZYD RITUAL MURDER IN RUSSIA - ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE  MORDUJE W RUSSIA
- Pravda ! Wahr -  Immer  die verfluechte Kristmordern Juden! 

Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt.
polityce.nacjonalizm.biel "Whip"< nowhere@none > napisał:

"żYDOWSKI RYTUAł MORDUJE" W RUSSIA
PIĘĆ DZIECI ZNALAZłO CAłKOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SPłYNĘłA OD CIAł!
TRUPY zostały USTAWIONE w płomieniach, BY SCHOWAĆ KREW SPłYWAJąCą

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed początkiem Jewish Passover
dalej April 23, pięć dzieci, Muslim i Christian, "znikniętego" w
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk.  ich spalone ciała zostały
znalezione w kanalizacyjny dół.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj że
dużo Rosjanie w mieście są przekonani, że dzieci rytualnie zostały
zamordowane przez miejscowych Jews, którzy później spłonęli ich ciała ukryć
zbrodnię i zapobiec eksperci znaleźć w ciałach brak krwi, która jest
użyta przez Hasidic Żydzi dla celów rytuału.

Mało ludzi w mieście wierzy, że Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek
przychodzą do próby i, że morderstwa właściwie byłyby rozjaśnione
przez policyjnego investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny
Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentujący zainteresowania rodziców z
zamordowane dzieci powiedziały papierowi, że 5 niezależnych ekspertów
potwierdziło brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych ciałach.

" Jestem pewny, że to było rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem", on
powiedział.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups
Centrum, uzgadnia, że to było rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezależny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski
że jest duża Jewish społeczność w Krasnoyarsk i że
władze robią w ich moc czego, by ukryć, że to rytualne morderstwo
zaangażowane przez Żydzi. Świadek doniósł widzenie ciał dzieci
rzuconych nietkniętych dół jako zakazał przez Jewish rytuał i wtedy ktoś
spalony wtedy do ukrywają rany rytuału w określonych miejscach ciał 
zrobionych dla wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedział.

Badacz przypomniał dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913.
miejscowy Żydowski aktywista społeczności, Beilis, został zatrzymany i został
oskarżony morderstwa i później wypuścił przez sąd z powodu
niewystarczającego dowodu, z mniejszym nadwyżka wagi między sądem.

"Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky też miało miejsce mało dnia przed
Żydowski Passover, jego ciało też zostało skrwawione i zostało
rzucone pogrzeb", Mr którego Nazarov powiedział.

"I Beilis należał do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic gałęzi Judaism jako
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar ... kopie American gangstes
ćwiczy się (on został urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z
poparciem Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish
Governor Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin", Pan, z którym Nazarov dołączył jego
wywiad papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedź światową najlepszy ocenioną
stronę internetową dla  JEW - WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Teraz z więcej dowodem wychodzącym udowadniającym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z
NAZIŚCI - innych 51 przypadków oprócz sławnego przypadku Kastner - nic
dziwne ludzie dookoła świata naprawdę nie lubią Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawierają:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J. Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
JAZEERA AL - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
DRUT HOFFMAN - Dedicated do Freedom Press,
    Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History
    Poprzyj: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Albo, odwiedź stronę internetową dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :
http://www.natall.com
Oni mają dużo informacji, jak również książki i zapisy.


Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < Art@Arthurian.com >, albo do
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, albo Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Czuć się swobodnie , by zaprenumerować nas do maillists dla płci,
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Vergiss niemals! Bewaehrt Euch vor ZYDS! 
Never forget the ZYD Christkillers, now after more than 2000 years.

ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE  MORDUJE W RUSSIA - Wahrheit
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Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt. polityce.nacjonalizm.biel "Whip"
< nowhere@none > napisał:

"żYDOWSKI RYTUAł MORDUJE" W RUSSIA 
PIĘĆ DZIECI ZNALAZłO CAłKOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SPłYNĘłA OD CIAł!
TRUPY zostały USTAWIONE w płomieniach, BY SCHOWAĆ KREW SPłYWAJąCą 

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed początkiem Jewish Passover 
dalej April 23, pięć dzieci, Muslim i Christian, "znikniętego" w 
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk.  ich spalone ciała zostały znalezione w
kanalizacyjny dół.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj że dużo 
Rosjanie w mieście są przekonani, że dzieci rytualnie zostały zamordowane 
przez miejscowych Jews, którzy później spłonęli ich ciała ukryć zbrodnię i
zapobiec eksperci znaleźć w ciałach brak krwi, która jest użyta przez Hasidic 
Żydzi dla celów rytuału.

Mało ludzi w mieście wierzy, że Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek przychodzą do
próby i, że morderstwa właściwie byłyby rozjaśnione przez policyjnego
investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentujący zainteresowania rodziców z 
zamordowane dzieci powiedziały papierowi, że 5 niezależnych ekspertów
potwierdziło brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych ciałach.

" Jestem pewny, że to było rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem", on
powiedział.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups 
Centrum, uzgadnia, że to było rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezależny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski 
że jest duża Jewish społeczność w Krasnoyarsk i że 
władze robią w ich moc czego, by ukryć, że to rytualne morderstwo zaangażowane
przez Żydzi. Świadek doniósł widzenie ciał dzieci rzuconych nietkniętych 
dół jako zakazał przez Jewish rytuał i wtedy ktoś spalony wtedy do 
ukrywają rany rytuału w określonych miejscach ciał zrobionych dla 
wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedział.

Badacz przypomniał dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa 
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913. miejscowy 
Żydowski aktywista społeczności, Beilis, został zatrzymany i został oskarżony
morderstwa i później wypuścił przez sąd z powodu niewystarczającego dowodu, z
mniejszym nadwyżka wagi między sądem.

"Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky też miało miejsce mało dnia przed 
Żydowski Passover, jego ciało też zostało skrwawione i zostało rzucone 
pogrzeb", Mr którego Nazarov powiedział.

"I Beilis należał do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic gałęzi Judaism jako 
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar ... kopie American gangstes 
ćwiczy się (on został urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z poparciem
Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish Governor 
Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin", Pan, z którym Nazarov dołączył jego wywiad 
papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedź światową najlepszy ocenioną stronę
internetową dla  JEW - WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com 

Teraz z więcej dowodem wychodzącym udowadniającym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z 
NAZIŚCI - innych 51 przypadków oprócz sławnego przypadku Kastner - nic dziwne 
ludzie dookoła świata naprawdę nie lubią Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawierają:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org 
IHR - www.ihr.org 
OSTARA - www.ostara.org 
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html 
Edgar J. Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com 
JAZEERA AL - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage 
DRUT HOFFMAN - Dedicated do Freedom Press, 
    Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History 
    Poprzyj: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com 

Albo, odwiedź stronę internetową dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :
http://www.natall.com 
Oni mają dużo informacji, jak również książki i zapisy.


Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < Art@Arthurian.com >, albo do 
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, albo Ariadne.mac@gmail.com 
Czuć się swobodnie , by zaprenumerować nas do maillists dla płci,
homoseksualistów i podobnego.


From MatthiasKern@hotmail.com Tue Apr 22 12:49:13 EDT 2008
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From: Matthias Kern 
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Vergiss niemals! Bewaehrt Euch vor ZYDS/Juden! 
Never forget the ZYD Christkillers, now after more than 2000 years.

ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE  MORDUJE W RUSSIA - Wahrheit
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Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt. polityce.nacjonalizm.biel "Whip"
< nowhere@none > napisał:

"żYDOWSKI RYTUAł MORDUJE" W RUSSIA 
PIĘĆ DZIECI ZNALAZłO CAłKOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SPłYNĘłA OD CIAł!
TRUPY zostały USTAWIONE w płomieniach, BY SCHOWAĆ KREW SPłYWAJąCą 

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed początkiem Jewish Passover 
dalej April 23, pięć dzieci, Muslim i Christian, "znikniętego" w 
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk.  ich spalone ciała zostały znalezione w
kanalizacyjny dół.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj że dużo 
Rosjanie w mieście są przekonani, że dzieci rytualnie zostały zamordowane 
przez miejscowych Jews, którzy później spłonęli ich ciała ukryć zbrodnię i
zapobiec eksperci znaleźć w ciałach brak krwi, która jest użyta przez Hasidic 
Żydzi dla celów rytuału.

Mało ludzi w mieście wierzy, że Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek przychodzą do
próby i, że morderstwa właściwie byłyby rozjaśnione przez policyjnego
investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentujący zainteresowania rodziców z 
zamordowane dzieci powiedziały papierowi, że 5 niezależnych ekspertów
potwierdziło brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych ciałach.

" Jestem pewny, że to było rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem", on
powiedział.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups 
Centrum, uzgadnia, że to było rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezależny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski 
że jest duża Jewish społeczność w Krasnoyarsk i że 
władze robią w ich moc czego, by ukryć, że to rytualne morderstwo zaangażowane
przez Żydzi. Świadek doniósł widzenie ciał dzieci rzuconych nietkniętych 
dół jako zakazał przez Jewish rytuał i wtedy ktoś spalony wtedy do 
ukrywają rany rytuału w określonych miejscach ciał zrobionych dla 
wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedział.

Badacz przypomniał dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa 
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913. miejscowy 
Żydowski aktywista społeczności, Beilis, został zatrzymany i został oskarżony
morderstwa i później wypuścił przez sąd z powodu niewystarczającego dowodu, z
mniejszym nadwyżka wagi między sądem.

"Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky też miało miejsce mało dnia przed 
Żydowski Passover, jego ciało też zostało skrwawione i zostało rzucone 
pogrzeb", Mr którego Nazarov powiedział.

"I Beilis należał do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic gałęzi Judaism jako 
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar ... kopie American gangstes 
ćwiczy się (on został urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z poparciem
Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish Governor 
Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin", Pan, z którym Nazarov dołączył jego wywiad 
papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedź światową najlepszy ocenioną stronę
internetową dla  JEW - WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com 

Teraz z więcej dowodem wychodzącym udowadniającym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z 
NAZIŚCI - innych 51 przypadków oprócz sławnego przypadku Kastner - nic dziwne 
ludzie dookoła świata naprawdę nie lubią Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawierają:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org 
IHR - www.ihr.org 
OSTARA - www.ostara.org 
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html 
Edgar J. Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com 
JAZEERA AL - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage 
DRUT HOFFMAN - Dedicated do Freedom Press, 
    Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History 
    Poprzyj: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com 

Albo, odwiedź stronę internetową dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :
http://www.natall.com 
Oni mają dużo informacji, jak również książki i zapisy.


Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < Art@Arthurian.com >, albo do 
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, albo Ariadne.mac@gmail.com 
Czuć się swobodnie , by zaprenumerować nas do maillists dla płci,
homoseksualistów i podobnego.


From Art@Arthurian.com Tue Apr 22 12:34:58 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his  one faggot  business Nizkor, [only gay McVay 
supposedly works there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged 
in completely Illegal  MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! 
They are being considered for  prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's  own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


From Art@Arthurian.com Tue Apr 22 12:38:34 EDT 2008
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Full details of McVay's CRIMINAL TAX FRAUD and moneylaundering SWINDLE 
provided from his own  posts over the years! A real goniff !

Now, he is causing the breakup of B'nai Brith in Canada, because of his
ILLEGAL TAX FRAUD & MONEY-LAUNDERING!


On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:18:13 -0500, in alt.revisionism Doc Tavish
 wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:55:03 -0000, 
<12h5gv7b39f8s37@corp.supernews.com>,
kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC) wrote:

>From: kmcvay@shell.vex.net (Kenneth McVay OBC)
>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.fan.adolf-hitler
>Subject: Alex Vangel, liar, pimp for National Appliance

The Nizkor Project - Kenneth McVay Director
P.O. Box 244, Station A
Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada

On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 22:45:01 -0000, <11brnjdsm8fhafb@corp.supernews.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/764a44f4a73c885e?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySigLineLie)
>-- 
>"The Nizkor website (secretly financed by the ADL and other Jewish front
>organizations) is behind it." (David Irving, whining about Google's 
>description of him as a disgraced historian.)  Judge for yourself:
>http://nizkor.org/.. 



Addressed to liar Goyim Kenneth McVay:
Here is proof the Jews do finance you and proof you are "owned" by
Jews which you can't deny. You can't be objective because your 
sponsors are Jews.

On to identifying the funding behind Kenneth McVay and proving him to be a
lying kept "whore" of Jewry:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/72d376fef3c983cf?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: KleinsorgNizkorFinancing)
From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Nizkor Project financing and Kleinsorg's slandering Germans
Date: 1996/06/15
Message-ID: <4pvbkg$auc@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>

>First tell us who is financing your Nizkor, then we perahps can
>talk.

Thank you for bringing that up, Mr. Kleinsorg. I am financed
by thousands of "just plain folks" who wish to support my
work. In Canada, they make their cheques payable to
Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project
and mail them to:

          Congregation Emmanu-El / Nizkor Project
          1461 Blanshard St.
          Victoria, BC
          V8W 2J3

In the United States, they make their cheques payable to:
 
	SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund
 
and mail them to:
 
	San Antonio Area Foundation
	Nizkor Fund
	P.O. Box 120366
	San Antonio, TX 78212-9566

Once again, Mr. Kleinsorg, thank you for asking. I trust this
open, public response will satisfy your query.

By the way, Mr. Kleinsorg... now that I have responded openly
and honestly to your question, perhaps you can tell us what
difference it makes who finances my work... you are still
slandering Germans, and the German military, and I fail to see
how my financing changes that.
-- 
The Nizkor Project (Canada) - An Electronic Holocaust Educational Resource

		~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Thus above we can see at that time a Jewish Synagogue was handling 
donations in Canada and in the United States we can see the "SAN ANTONIO 
AREA FOUNDATION - Nizkor Fund" handling donations and as proven further 
down the "custodian" is a Jew named Harry W. Mazal.

Proof Congregation Emmanu-El on 1461 Blanshard St. is a Jewish Synagogue
instead of a Church of Christendom:

http://142.26.134.124/arcom/calendardetails.asp?Event_ID=50 

Some info on Harry W. Mazal aka San Antonio Area Foundation - 
Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM):

http://www3.telus.net/myssiwyg/mcvay.html
(Archived locally as: mcvay-internet_fighter)
                           mcvay@internet.fighter
Note to the reader: This article, written by Michelle Betz, was published in 
the March 9, 1995 issue of The Jewish Western Bulletin. 

...McVay's Internet work, now known officially as the Nizkor Project, began 
as a one-man show...

McVay has also found some outside backing - an American who will provide 
"some pretty solid financial backing for the project." A 77-year-old
businessman and Holocaust scholar from Texas will fund legal expenses 
incurred in setting up the project. McVay will then further establish the
Nizkor Project in Canada.

"We are in the process of establishing a non-profit organization in the U.S.
That should be operational within a month or six weeks and that foundation
will undoubtedly fund the establishment of the Canadian foundation by the 
same name," he explained, referring to the Nizkor Project..."

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The person referred to above with the sentence: "A 77-year-old businessman 
and Holocaust scholar from Texas will fund legal expenses incurred in setting 
up the project." is Harry W. Mazal who is based in San Antonio, Texas and 
who  also administered the San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund"!!
I.E.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cfa0944d81241a6d?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: WhoIsSAAFmazal)
From: ragland37@webtv.net (Michael Ragland)
Subject: Re: Some Holes, Some Holocaust (Danny Keren)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:19:26 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <14152-3D1BD5BE-337@storefull-2253.public.lawson.webtv.net>

Veri Sign Whois 
http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois 

Enter mazal.org and read results 
You are Here:WHOIS -> Search Results
Search Results
 
Registrant: 
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM) 
600 Sandau Suite 400 
San Antonio, TX 78216 US
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG 
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: 
Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hmazal@TXDIRECT.NET
The Mazal Library 600 Sandau, Suite 400 San Antonio, TX 78216  US 
210-377-2742
Record expires on 28-Jun-2006.
Record created on 27-Jun-1997. 
Database last updated on 27-Jun-2002 22:55:14 EDT. 

		~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Also from Ken McVay's very own Nizkor Project web site

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/press/express-news.
960803   (Archived locally as: express-news.960803)

..The Nizkor Project is not only a tool to fight bigotry, it has 
also "make an impact in terms of Holocaust education," McVay said.

Some of the new material he will add to the web site -- which 
will have sound and movement -- includes speeches by Nazi 
statesmen advocating genocide, 68 volumes of military 
documentation from the Nuremburg war crimes tribunals and 
material from the National Archives in Washington.

Some of the new material is being donated by San Antonio resident 
Harry Mazal, who is the director of the Nizkor Project in the 
United States.  Mazal also has one of the world's largest private 
collections of Holocaust material...   

       Proof Harry W. Mazal is also a Jew:
http://www.galvnews.com/story.lasso?wcd=14894 
or http://tinyurl.com/alook
(Archived locally as: HarryMazal_Jewish)
Excerpt:
        Galveston County - The Daily News
Historian confronts Holocaust revisionists
 By Carolina Amengual
 The Daily News   
    Published November 5, 2003
[...]

Fueled by the Internet, Holocaust denial is becoming a growing 
phenomenon mainlyin the United States and Europe, and lately in Middle 
Eastern countries...“The crime is so unspeakable,” said Harry W. Mazal,
president of the Holocaust History Project. ...Researching his Jewish roots,
Mazal came across chat rooms... Harry Mazal, president of The Holocaust
History Project... 

Proof Harry W. Mazal is connected to the "San Antonio Area Foundation - 
Nizkor Fund":


 Veri Sign Whois 
http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois 

Enter mazal.org and read results 

You are Here:WHOIS -> Search Results
Search Results
 
Registrant: 
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC (MAZAL2-DOM) 
600 Sandau Suite 400 
San Antonio, TX 78216 US
Domain Name: MAZAL.ORG 
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: 
Mazal, Harry (HM1296) hmazal@TXDIRECT.NET
The Mazal Library 
600 Sandau, Suite 400 
San Antonio, TX 78216  US 
210-377-2742
Record expires on 28-Jun-2006.
Record created on 27-Jun-1997. 
Database last updated on 27-Jun-2002 22:55:14 EDT. 

 http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/cfa0944d81241a6d
?fwc=1
 From: ragland37@webtv.net (Michael Ragland)
 Subject: Re: Some Holes, Some Holocaust (Danny Keren)
 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:19:26 -0400 (EDT)
 Message-ID: <14152-3D1BD5BE-337@storefull-2253.public.lawson.
webtv.net>
 (Archived locally as: WhoIsSAAFmazal)
                  AND
http://www.ghwk.de/engl/linksengl1.htm
(Archived locally as: linksengl)
House of the Wannsee Conference
Memorial and Educational Site
-------------------------------
Related Links  

[...]

USA

[...]

 The Mazal Library - A Holocaust Resource
c/o The San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
600 Sandau, San Antonio, Tx 78216


NEW ADDITIONS for September 24, 2006:

(I have to correct a McVay half truth):
http://nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/m/mcvay.ken/2000/San_Antonio_Area_
Foundation_donation
(Link active November 20, 2003. Archived locally as: SAAF_NizkorWEB)

"Blakely"  wrote in message
news:282e6175.3c2814b6@usw-ex0103-086.remarq.com...
> What did you do with the $50,000 given to you to start a Nizkor
> operation in San Antonio? Since you claim you don't have a San
> Antonio operation, is it safe to say that you simply embezzled
> the money?

No one ever gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio
Area Foundation... The San Antonio Area Foundation has never paid me - 
or anyone else, to my knowledge...

I have no connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor. Get used
to it.


Ken McVay was not 100% truthful when he stated above: "No one ever 
gave me $50,000. That sum was donated to the San Antonio Area 
Foundation..." In truth that $50,000 was given to the San Antonio Area
Foundation by Harry W. Mazal (as the evidence shown higher up proves) 
and then the San Antonio Area Foundation gave the money to Mcvay.
I wonder if Mazal declared such as a tax deduction for that year?! One
wonders!! As for McVay's outright lie from the above: "The San Antonio 
Area Foundation has never paid me - or anyone else,  to my knowledge... 
I have no connection in San Antonio, and neither does Nizkor.."-
I now offer Harry W. Mazal himself:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/4e874cb48c170b87?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: Mazal_SAAF_DonationsForNizkor)
From: hmazal@txdirect.net (Harry W. Mazal OBE)
Subject: Re: Attack on Alt.Revisionism -- Gate.Net Refuses to Help
Date: 1996/11/21
Message-ID: <3293fbd6.26418507@news.txdirect.net>#1/1

Nizkor receives (very) modest donations from a number of sources.
Some are Jewish, most are not.  If Mr. Giwer wishes to make a donation
to a non-synagogue based chapter of Nizkor, he may do so through the
San Antonio Area Foundation.  The address can be found on the Nizkor
Web Page.   Thank you!

Harry W. Mazal OBE
		  ~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

As for Mazal's untruth when he implied above the San Antonio Area Foundation
wasn't Jewish:

http://www.saafdn.org/about/about_history.shtml 
(Archived locally as: SAAF Area Foundation - History)
About Us - History

One man impacts an entire community.
	Nat Goldsmith lived out the American dream in service and gratitude.
He was born to immigrant parents, moved to San Antonio at an early age, 
earned an education and went into business for himself. Never forgetting the
importance of giving back, Nat contributed to his community in many selfless
ways – in the Jewish community he loved; the Chamber of Commerce he led as
president; the Community Chest (now the United Way) of which he was a 
founding member; the City-County Tuberculosis Control Board of which he 
was a founder; the commission he chaired that zoned San Antonio; the Good
Government League he helped organize and numerous other causes that 
benefited from his business acumen, vision for the future and generosity. 

The San Antonio Area Foundation is established.
	Mannie Goldsmith was so inspired by the life of his brother, Nat
Goldsmith, that he wanted to create a memorial to honor Nat's vision,
compassion, and love for his community. Mannie established the Nat Goldsmith
Memorial Trust as the founding trust that would inaugurate the San Antonio
Area Foundation and provide for its initial funding.

Celebrating 40 years in San Antonio.
	By 2004, the San Antonio Area Foundation had grown to over $110
million in assets and $65 million in charitable distributions – a fitting
tribute to Nat and Mannie Goldsmith, whose philanthropic vision inspired the
Area Foundation – spurring growth and support for the arts, humanities,
education, health and environment throughout San Antonio, Bexar County 
and the surrounding area. 


Thus the money launderer San Antonio Area Foundation has deep Jewish 
roots too! BTW why does Jewish conceived SAAF who stated above: 
"Nat and Mannie Goldsmith, whose philanthropic vision inspired the Area
Foundation – spurring growth and support for the arts, humanities, education,
health and environment throughout San Antonio, Bexar County and the
surrounding area." send funding to Kenneth McVay who is in Nanaimo, British
Columbia, Canada and issue tax receipts so American donors can deduct such
donations from their federal income taxes?!
Imagine the outrage if a "Revisionist" website operated by one sole person
were to try the same racketeering? McVay has as money launderers B'nai Brith
in Canada and the San Antonio Area Foundation in America (both of which are
Jewish conceptions).

Also see:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
Subject: The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the 
San  Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 01:50:56 -0500
Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>

End of September 24, 2006 new additions.

Here is McVay's own web site pandering for money and take notice of who 
launders the money in Canada (another group of Jews!).

http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
(Archived locally as: league-donation)

 The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada....
 Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation may
call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the receptionist
that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor Project....

..Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's
memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to
build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation
be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft
with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)

Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]



Here are detailed archives which are fully documented in my usual manner on
the above scheme to fund McVay with exempt donations he is not entitled to
receive:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0   Message-ID:
<6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
 (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund should both 
be renamed the Kenneth McVay Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay 
Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor Project is a web site solely operated by
Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is the 
sole recipient and beneficiary of those two "bogus" funds!)
----------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam
V2.0      Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
 (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and currently
perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in 
which B'nai Brith launders exempt donations and passes them to McVay as tax
free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive exempt donations.
This is more or less a similar tax scheme which resulted in criminal
prosecutions.)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here is another Jewish Front that has done money laundering for Ken McVay;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/46868da0ffff43e5?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVayZikaron)
From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
Subject: Re: McVay's Addresses & Phone Numbers again
Date: 1996/09/15
Message-ID: <51hqme$btg@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
William Gruber-Grosvenor-Acumen-Wahrheit wrote:

>Since OyVey likes to have everyone contact him at home, for more money 
>according to his own messages,here again are his address and phone numbers: 
> Kenneth McVay
> 462 - 1150 North terminal Avenue
> Nanaimo, BC V9S 5T8
> Phone - 604-382-0615 
>Hope this helps you, and others, who may wish to discuss with 
>Ken aspects of the truth about Jewish control.....

Although it is kind of Mr. Grosvenor-Gruber-Acumen-Wahrheit to
provide this information, there are some minor errors which,
as is usually the case, have appeared in his article.

1. My name is spelled McVay, but Mr. Grosvenor's lack of spelling 
   skills can be excused. He is, after all, one of Canada's
   immigrants, and English is not his first language.

2. The address provided is not that of my home.

3. The address provided can be used for donations, but it is
   only checked once a month, and tax receipts will be
   delayed. The correct information for donations is as
   follows:
                             Canada

     Donations for the Project's efforts may be made payable
     to

          The Zikaron Society / Nizkor Fund

     Please mail your cheque to

          The Zikaron Tolerance and Remembrance Society
          6540 East Hastings Street, Suite 221
          Burnaby, BC
          V5B 4Z5

	~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Proof the above was Jewish too:

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:8ZQgaPpb2FkJ:www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/
gaming/reports/direct_access.html++%22FORMERLY:+ZIKARON+TOLERANCE
%22&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8
or http://tinyurl.com/7ey94
(Archived locally as: Zikaron_Jewish_1.jpg and Zikaron_Jewish_2.jpg  I had to
take snap shots of the web page because it would not let me save it. As the
old saying goes-- A picture is worth a 1000 words.)

VANCOUVER AUXILIARY TO B.C.'S WOMEN'S HOSPITAL AND HEALTH 
CENTRE 112913
30-11-2005 

VANCOUVER B'NAI B'RITH FOUNDATION OF BC (FORMERLY: 
ZIKARON TOLERANCE AND REMEMBRANCE SOCIETY) 110932 02-12-2005 

VANCOUVER B.C. ASSOCIATION FOR COMMUNITY LIVING 109198 30-11-2005 


Now I ask you Ken McVay do you still want to deny the Jews fund you?

Your Nizkor web site also foists forgeries as being authentic and it's fully
documented irrefutably here:

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7b61fed6f1b4c516?fwc=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V4.0 T_1220
Message-ID: 
Date: 21 Dec 2005 05:29:58 GMT
							Tavish



From Art@Arthurian.com Tue Apr 22 12:47:32 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his  one faggot  business Nizkor, [only gay McVay 
supposedly works there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged 
in completely Illegal  MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! 
They are being considered for  prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's  own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
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against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

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acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
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From Art@Arthurian.com Tue Apr 22 12:47:33 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.palestine,alt.homosexuality
Subject: Frank Arthur=alias Grosvenor=Gay Ken McVay - Invites Calls & Visits
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Yes for sooth , I am indeed  Frank Arthur - sometimes alias Grosvenor -  
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

Frank Arthur  [me]  sometimes I post using  Bellsouth Internet Group, 
except when I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor  [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to 
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really  gay Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


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Why Jews/ZYDs  Are a Real Problem, Simplified
Basically, people for the past more than 2000 years can not trust 
the Christkiller ZYDS!

On 12 Oct 2006 11:13:47 -0700, in uk.politics.misc "Magnus"
 wrote:

Why Jews Are a Problem, Simplified

Contrary to what you have probably heard, Jews were the world's first
racists. They created racist ideas, as official doctrine, long before
Christianity or Islam existed.

Jews claimed that they were superior to all other humans [i.e. that
they were "The Chosen People"]. They did this mainly to keep
themselves apart from other groups of people so that their genetic
strain would not be 'polluted.'

Then, many years later, the French leader Napoleon 'freed' the Jews
[he granted them various rights that they did not previously have],
and Jews became part of White European society. Their bigoted, racist,
money-oriented ways did not endear them to the benevolent Europeans.

So-called "anti-Semitism" resulted from that gentile/Jewish contact in
Europe, and became the norm. European attitudes about Jews became
worse when Jews overtook Russia in 1917. That event resulted in, or at
least coincided with, a worldwide Jewish revolution. Within that
revolution, Jews tried different methods of conquering the gentile-
dominated world that had 'oppressed' them for years: some Jews tried
Communism, some tried global capitalism, some tried feminism, some
tried leftism. All such ideas were designed to weaken traditional
gentile culture so that Jews, as both a religion and a race by long
interbreeding among themselves, would never be 'oppressed' again.

Jews dominate the West today by controlling the media, Hollywood,
banking/finance, left-wing political causes, and other areas of
Western culture. They are smarter than gentiles as a rule, and are
much more ruthless and cunning. They do not have White morals; they do
not feel guilty about cheating a non-Jew. They are not White even
though they appear to be so. They are basically aliens living among
Whites. Some people have likened Jews to invaders from another planet
who look human; that description seems reasonable as a whole.

Furthermore, Jews see themselves as being in a perpetual war with non-
Jews. They are willing to go to further racial and political extremes
than gentiles, because they take that ongoing "war" with gentiles more
seriously than non-Jews do. Therefore, Jews will lie, cheat and steal
more readily than a non-Jew. This, in our opinion, makes Jews a
security risk within all Western countries.

Also, Jews are in deep, pathological denial about why gentiles do not
like them. A Jew will engage in lying to and swindling non-Jews, and
then will wonder with complete honesty why gentiles do not like Jews.
Jews seem unable to grasp the fact that their actions are unsavory to
gentiles. In fact, we suggest that this blindness of Jews to the many
unsavory aspects of Jewry is actually a form of mental illness,
although it will never be labeled as such.

While there are, no doubt, a few 'good' Jews in the West, their
numbers are very small. Jews cannot be counted on to preserve White
values since they are not White.

Jews are the greatest enemy of traditional Western culture.

********************

See the following for many links on Jews and Judaism:
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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ZYD CRIMES IN RUSSIA  EXPOSED FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE
No wonder normal people hate the filthy Christkiller ZYDS, still after more
than 2000 years!

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:23:48 -0400, in soc.culture.canada "serwad"
 wrote:

Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution

Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of ZYDS/Jews in 
Soviet-era repression

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist 
gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his 
writing career - the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet 
purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of 
the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the 
repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together - a reference to the 
1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the 
Russian Jewish population - contains three chapters discussing the Jewish 
role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet 
Russia.

  But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book, 
and questioned Solzhenitsyn's motives in writing it, accusing him of factual 
inaccuracies and of fanning the flames of anti-semitism in Russia.
Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period 
"consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians" as being behind the 
genocide. But he states that all the nation's ethnic groups must share the 
blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish 
experience.

In one remark which infuriated Russian Jews, he wrote: "If I would care to 
generalise, and to say that the life of the Jews in the camps was especially 
hard, I could, and would not face reproach for an unjust national 
generalisation. But in the camps where I was kept, it was different. The 
Jews whose experience I saw - their life was softer than that of others."

Yet he added: "But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal 
question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the 
actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds 
were Jews, is certainly incorrect."

Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of 
his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about 
his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given 
last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and 
revolutionary genocides - and that its Jewish population should be as 
offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power 
that also persecuted them.

"My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the 
psychology of the Jews - their spiritual component," he said. "I have never 
made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between 
layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to 
the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time 
was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the 
best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about 
us."

But Solzhenitsyn's book has caused controversy in Russia, where one Jewish 
leader said it was "not of any merit".

"This is a mistake, but even geniuses make mistakes," said Yevgeny 
Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress. "Richard Wagner did 
not like the Jews, but was a great composer. Dostoyevsky was a great Russian 
writer, but had a very sceptical attitude towards the Jews.

"This is not a book about how the Jews and Russians lived together for 200 
years, but one about how they lived apart after finding themselves on the 
same territory. This book is a weak one professionally. Factually, it is so 
bad as to be beyond criticism. As literature, it is not of any merit."

But DM Thomas, one of Solzhenitsyn's biographers, said that he did not think 
the book was fuelled by anti-semitism. "I would not doubt his sincerity. He 
says that he firmly supports the state of Israel. In his fiction and factual 
writing there are Jewish characters that he writes about who are bright, 
decent, anti-Stalinist people."

Professor Robert Service of Oxford University, an expert on 20th century 
Russian history, said that from what he had read about the book, 
Solzhenitsyn was "absolutely right".

Researching a book on Lenin, Prof Service came across details of how 
Trotsky, who was of Jewish origin, asked the politburo in 1919 to ensure 
that Jews were enrolled in the Red army. Trotsky said that Jews were 
disproportionately represented in the Soviet civil bureaucracy, including 
the cheka.

"Trotsky's idea was that the spread of anti-semitism was [partly down to] 
objections about their entrance into the civil service. There is something 
in this; that they were not just passive spectators of the revolution. They 
were part-victims and part-perpetrators.

"It is not a question that anyone can write about without a huge amount of 
bravery, and [it] needs doing in Russia because the Jews are quite often 
written about by fanatics. Mr Solzhenitsyn's book seems much more measured 
than that."

Yet others failed to see the need for Solzhenitsyn's pursuit of this 
particular subject at present. Vassili Berezhkov, a retired KGB colonel and 
historian of the secret services and the NKVD (the precursor of the KGB), 
said: "The question of ethnicity did not have any importance either in the 
revolution or the story of the NKVD. This was a social revolution and those 
who served in the NKVD and cheka were serving ideas of social change.

"If Solzhenitsyn writes that there were many Jews in the NKVD, it will 
increase the passions of anti-semitism, which has deep roots in Russian 
history. I think it is better not to discuss such a question now."



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But the filthy Christkiller ZYDS are still demanding  billions from Christians
everywhere  for the so-called HOLOHOAX!!

This, even though prominent ZYDs COLLABORATED with Nazis!

On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:22:13 -0400, in soc.culture.jewish "ElParedon"
 wrote:
"Daniel Bernard"  wrote in message 
news:n7o8c3l7jisibe4g52itld86ci98bb8r8j@4ax.com...
> The Dynamic Duo Of Lies

> Written by Jayne Gardner

> Part of what helped me to finally understand that I had been lied to
> about the Holocaust was the very testimony of some of the more famous
> survivors. Reading what happened to them during the war made
> absolutely no sense when stacked up against what we were being told
> about the horrors endured by the Jews in Europe's concentration camps.
> For instance, Elie Wiesel, a man who has come to personify the
> Holocaust, told of Jews being thrown into open pits of fire at
> Auschwitz, a fate that he only managed to escape by sheer chance.
> Here he differs from the majority of survivors who told of gas
> chambers being the instrument of death for the majority of camp
> inmates:

> "Forced to choose from among several Allied war propaganda lies, he
> chose to defend the fire lie instead of the boiling water, gassing, or
> electrocution lies. In 1956, when he published his testimony in
> Yiddish, the fire lie was still alive in certain circles. This lie is
> the origin of the term Holocaust. Today there is no longer a single
> historian who believes that Jews were burned alive. The myths of the
> boiling water and of electrocution have also disappeared. Only the gas
> remains."

> "In his autobiography, Wiesel writes:

> "Not far from us, flames were leaping up from a ditch, gigantic
> flames. They were burning something there. A lorry drew up at the pit
> and delivered its load - little children. Babies! Yes, I saw it - saw
> it with my own eyes. those children in the flames. (Is it surprising
> that I could not sleep after that? Sleep had fled from my eyes.) So
> this is where we were going. A little farther on was another and
> larger ditch for adults. [.] 'Father,' I said, 'if that is so, I don't
> want to wait here. I'm going to run to the electric wire. That would
> be better than slow agony in the flames.'"

> Compare this with the explanation given by Thies Christopherson in his
> article entitled Reflection On Auschwitz And West German Justice:

> "At first, those who died at Auschwitz were buried, but because of the
> high ground water level (one meter) in this area between the Vistula
> and Sola rivers, that practice couldn't be continued. A labor team
> headed by SS Staff Sergeant Moll (who had been in charge of the
> agricultural nursery at Raisko) was assigned to dig up the buried
> corpses and burn them. This was done on an open fire. The most
> unbelievable stories were told about this procedure. West German
> television even broadcast a film of this which was supposedly made in
> secret by an SS man."

> As Wiesel continues his story, he is saved by nothing short of a
> miracle:

> "Our line had now only fifteen paces to go. I bit my lips so that my
> father would not hear my teeth chattering. Ten steps still. Eight.
> Seven. We marched slowly on as though following a hearse at our own
> funeral. Four more steps. Three steps. There it was now, right in
> front of us, the pit and its flames. I gathered all that was left of
> my strength, so that I could break the ranks and throw myself upon the
> barbed wire. In the depth of my heart I bade farewell to my father, to
> the whole universe; and, in spite of myself, the words formed
> themselves and issued a whisper from my lips: Yitgadal veyitkadach
> shmé raba. May His name be blessed and magnified.. My heart was
> bursting. The moment had come. I was face to face with the Angel of
> Death. No. Two steps from the pit we were ordered to turn to the left
> and made to go into our barracks."

> Mr. Wiesel's lies are many and varied. When writing about the
> slaughter at Babi Yar, he wrote:

> "Later, I learn from a witness that, for month after month, the ground
> never stopped trembling; and that, from time to time, geysers of blood
> spurted from it."

> He claimed that they killed 10,000 Jews a day at Buchenwald but some
> how, miraculously, he was always spared. Is it likely that one 15 year
> old boy could survive not one, but three concentration camps whose
> entire raison d'etre was to kill as many Jews as possible?

> It has been said that Elie Wiesel "is the Holocaust," and yet when he
> wrote his autobiographical novel, Night there is no mention of gas
> chambers. He has been caught in lie after lie and yet to this day he
> holds to his story in spite of a great deal of evidence that he has
> been less than truthful.

> In an account of Wiesel's time at Auschwitz, he claims that, while
> working, he injured his foot and had to spend some time in the camp
> infirmary. Of course, this begs the question as to why a camp which
> was built, ostensibly, to annihilate Jews would even have an
> infirmary. Does it make any sense that a place built for the sole
> purpose of killing Jews on a large scale would bother having an
> infirmary staffed with doctors and nurses? And if Wiesel, then a 15
> year old boy with an injured foot, could not even work, why would they
> not just kill him on the spot?

> What really convinced me that Wiesel is a liar is that, as the Russian
> army approached Auschwitz and liberation was on the horizon, why, when
> given the chance of remaining in the camp to be freed by the Soviets
> or to evacuate with the Germans, Wiesel decided, along with about
> 20,000 other survivors, to leave with the Germans? In light of what we
> have been taught about the Holocaust, why would someone leave with his
> tormentors, who, he claimed, were depraved mass murderers, instead of
> waiting for his liberators?

> It makes no sense whatsoever to rational people and it is to his
> eternal shame that Wiesel has been one of the worst offenders when it
> comes to selling Holocaust lies to an unsuspecting public, even
> winning the Nobel Peace Prize in the process. When President Jimmy
> Carter needed to choose someone to take charge of the President's
> Commission on the Holocaust he chose an unapologetic liar, Elie
> Wiesel.

> A few weeks back, I watched the Oprah Winfrey show in which she
> escorted Mr. Wiesel around the grounds of Auschwitz. He showed great
> humility as he walked with Ms. Winfrey through the camp where he had
> been interned as a child, a performance which should be considered for
> an Academy Award in the category of keeping a poker face while
> continuing to recite the same old lies.

> Mr. Wiesel should be ashamed of himself.

> Our second liar is none other than Nazi-hunter extraordinaire, Simon
> Wiesenthal, who devoted his post war life to hunting down Nazi war
> criminals. According to Mark Webber, of the Institute For Historical
> Review:

> "Wiesenthal's reputation as a moral authority is undeserved. The man
> whom The Washington Post has called the "Holocaust's Avenging Angel"
> has a little known but well-documented record of reckless disregard
> for truth. He has lied about his own wartime experiences,
> misrepresented his postwar "Nazi-hunting" achievements, and has spread
> vile falsehoods about alleged German atrocities."

> It is unclear what exactly happened during Wiesenthal's war years,
> since he has said various things at various times that are completely
> at odds with one another. There were accusations that he was, at one
> time, a Communist fighter, and still others that he was a Nazi
> collaborator, an accusation leveled against him by Austrian Chancellor
> Bruno Kreisky, who said:

> "I really know Mr. Wiesenthal only from secret reports, and they are
> bad, very nasty. I say this as Federal Chancellor ... And I say that
> Mr. Wiesenthal had a different relationship with the Gestapo than I
> did. Yes, and this can be proven. I can't say more [now]. Everything
> else, I'll say in court.

> My relationship with the Gestapo is unambiguous. I was their prisoner,
> their inmate, and I was interrogated. His relationship was a different
> one, I can say, and this will come out clearly. It's bad enough what
> I've already said here. But he can't clear himself by charging me with
> defaming his honor in the press, as he might wish. It's not that
> simple, because that would mean a big court case ... A man like this
> doesn't have the right to pretend to be a moral authority. That's what
> I say. He doesn't have the right ...

> Whether a man who, in my view, is an agent, yes, that's right, and who
> uses Mafia methods ...

> Such a man has to go....

> He is no gentleman, and I would say, to make this clear, so that he
> won't become a moral authority, because he is not ... He shouldn't
> pretend to be a moral authority ...

> I say that Mr. Wiesenthal lived in that time in the Nazi sphere of
> influence without being persecuted. Right? And he lived openly without
> being persecuted, right? Is that clear? And you perhaps know, if you
> know what was going on, that no one could risk that.

> He wasn't a "submarine" ... that is, submerged and in hiding, but
> instead, he was completely in the open without having to, well, ever
> risk persecution. I think that's enough. There were so many
> opportunities to be an agent. He didn't have to be a Gestapo agent.
> There were many other services."

> Before Wiesenthal became famous for being a "Nazi hunter," he had
> already made a name for himself spreading Holocaust propaganda,
> including the famous claim of Jewish fat being rendered and made into
> soap which was later proven to be a complete fabrication.

> In 1946, he published a book in which he included what he purported to
> be his own original sketches of the horrors going on in Mauthausen
> concentration camp. One of the drawings was of three inmates, tied to
> a post who had been murdered by the Germans. Unfortunately for Mr.
> Wiesenthal, this was soon exposed as a fraud, since the original
> drawing was an actual photograph of three German soldiers who had been
> executed by firing squad for spying and was found in a 1945 edition of
> Life Magazine.

> "The irresponsible character of this book is also shown by
> Wiesenthal's extensive citation therein of the supposed "death bed
> confession" of Mauthausen Commandant Franz Ziereis, according to which
> four million were gassed to death with carbon monoxide at the nearby
> Hartheim satellite camp. This claim is totally absurd, and no serious
> Holocaust historian still accepts it. Also according to the Ziereis
> "confession" cited by Wiesenthal, the Germans supposedly killed
> another ten million people in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia. In fact,
> this fraudulent "confession" was obtained by torture.

> Years later, Wiesenthal was still lying about Mauthausen. In a 1983
> interview with the daily newspaper USA Today, he said of his
> experience in Mauthausen: "I was one of 34 prisoners alive out of
> 150,000 who had been put there. "This is a blatant falsehood. The
> years have apparently not been kind to Wiesenthal's memory, because in
> his own autobiography he wrote that "almost 3,000 prisoners died in
> Mauthausen after the Americans liberated us on May 5, 1945."

> Another former inmate, Evelyn Le Chene, reported in her standard work
> about Mauthausen that there were 64,000 inmates in the camp when it
> was liberated in May 1945. And according to the Encyclopaedia Judaica,
> at least 212,000 inmates survived internment in the Mauthausen camp
> complex."

> Wiesenthal's lies continued with his outrageous claims that millions
> of Jews were killed in "electrocution showers," something that has
> since been completely debunked by historians. In 1975 and again in
> 1993, Weisenthal confessed that there were no extermination camps on
> German soil.

> "He thus implicitly conceded that the claims made at the postwar
> Nuremberg Tribunal and elsewhere that Buchenwald, Dachau and other
> camps in Germany proper were "extermination camps" are not true."

> Wiesenthal lied yet again when he claimed that he was responsible for
> the capture and trial of Adolph Eichmann and because of his
> machinations, an innocent man by the name of Frank Walus was smeared
> and denounced (falsely) by Wiesenthal as being a Nazi war criminal.

> "It was only after an exhausting legal battle that the man who was
> vilified and physically attacked as "the butcher of Kielce" was
> finally able to prove that he had spent the war years as a peaceful
> farm laborer in Germany. Frank Walus died in August 1994, a broken and
> bitterly disappointed man. Wiesenthal's recklessness in the Walus case
> should have been enough to permanently discredit him as a reliable
> investigator. But his Teflon reputation survived even this."

> Wiesenthal kept the world enthralled with his hunt for the infamous
> "Angel of Death," Dr. Josef Mengele who Weisenthal claimed had been
> sighted in various Latin-American countries. He played the role of
> "Nazi crime sleuth" with a vengeance, ultimately damaging his
> credibility with his outrageous claims.

> Wiesenthal was paid $75,000 annually for the use of his name at the
> Los Angeles Wiesenthal Centre and has been criticized widely for the
> commercializtion of the Holocaust. The director of Israels Yad Vashem
> Holocaust Centre said that: "Both the Center and Wiesenthal
> "commercialize" and "trivialize" the Holocaust."

> It was Simon Wiesenthal who gave us the 11 million figure for the
> Holocaust, comprising 6 million Jews and another 5 million non-Jews.

> "Wiesenthal "threw out" the figure of "11 million who were murdered in
> the Holocaust -- six million Jews and five million non-Jews," said the
> Yad Vashem official. When asked why he gave these figures, Wiesenthal
> replied: "The gentiles will not pay attention if we do not mention
> their victims, too." Wiesenthal "chose 'five million (gentiles)'
> because he wanted a 'diplomatic' number, one that told of a large
> number of gentile victims but in no way was larger than that of Jews

> Towards the end of his life, Wiesenthal became disturbed by the claims
> made by "historical revisionists" and was particularly incensed by the
> work of David Duke. I'm sure that's understandable in light of the
> fact that Wiesenthal was an adept and convincing liar and greatly
> feared having those lies exposed.

> What is particularly telling is that Simon Wiesenthal attempted
> suicide twice while in a concentration camp and both times he was
> taken to the infirmary to be nursed back to health. Surely such a
> thing would never happen in a place dedicated to exterminating every
> Jew in Europe.

> These two men, Wiesel and Wiesenthal, have come to represent the
> Holocaust. Mr. Wiesel is the consummate victim, the self-appointed
> guru of pathos and martyrdom, telling lies and fabricating aspects of
> the Holocaust in order to garner sympathy. Mr. Wiesenthal devoted his
> life to tracking down Nazi war criminals, seeking self-aggrandizement
> in the process, perhaps also trying to run from his troubling and
> largely fabricated past.

> These two men will go down in history as heroes, most likely, unless
> they are exposed, and rightly so, as charlatans and liars.

> Because that's what they are.

ELIE WIESENTHAL  was a Gestapo agent who sent dozens of Bukovina partizans 
to the gallows. If he ever crossed the border into the Soviet Union he would 
have been hung on the spot!

> Daniel
> http://toutsaufsarkozy.com/ 

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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It was ZYDS Who Killed many ZYDS - Nazis Kept Hands Clean
Remember the KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, and even WIESENTHAL
cases of ZYD KOLLABORACI!!

From: "ElParedon" 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.israel,
soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.russian
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:54:26 -0400

    In his moving letter to the editor below, Israel Shahak underlines that 
almost all the administrative tasks and policing required by the Nazis was 
placed in Jewish hands, that Jewish collaborators were ubiquitous, and that 
it was Jewish collaborators who rendered the Jewish Holocaust feasible and 
who stood as obstacles in the path of Jewish resistance.  Note, 
particularly, that the children of the Warsaw ghetto were taught to fear the 
Jewish collaborator more than the Ukrainian collaborator:

      Falsification of the Holocaust

      Letter to the editor by Prof. Israel Shahak,
      published on 19 May 1989 in Kol Ha'ir, Jerusalem. Available online at:
      http://www.kaiwan.com/codoh/newsdesk/890519.HTML

           I disagree with the opinion of Haim Baram that the Israeli 
education system has managed to instil a "Holocaust awareness" in its pupils 
(Kol Ha'Ir 12.5.89).  It's not an awareness of the Holocaust but rather the 
myth of the Holocaust or even a falsification of the Holocaust (in the sense 
that "a half-truth is worse than a lie") which has been instilled here.
          As one who himself lived through the Holocaust, first in Warsaw 
then in Bergen-Belsen, I will give an immediate example of the total 
ignorance of daily life during the Holocaust.  In the Warsaw ghetto, even 
during the period of the first massive extermination (June to October 1943), 
one saw almost no German soldiers.  Nearly all the work of administration, 
and later the work of transporting hundreds of thousands of Jews to their 
deaths, was carried out by Jewish collaborators.  Before the outbreak of the 
Warsaw Ghetto Uprising (the planning of which only started after the 
extermination of the majority of Jews in Warsaw), the Jewish underground 
killed, with perfect justification, every Jewish collaborator they could 
find.  If they had not done so the Uprising could never have started.  The 
majority of the population of the Ghetto hated the collaborators far more 
than the German Nazis.  Every Jewish child was taught, and this saved the 
lives of some of them "if you enter a square from which there are three 
exits, one guarded by a German SS man, one by an Ukrainian and one by a 
Jewish policeman, then you should first try to pass the German, and then 
maybe the Ukrainian, but never the Jew".
          One of my own strongest memories is that, when the Jewish 
underground killed a despicable collaborator close to my home at the end of 
February 1943, I danced and sang around the still bleeding corpse together 
with the other children.  I still do not regret this, quite the contrary.
          It is clear that such events were not exclusive to the Jews, the 
entire Nazi success in easy and continued rule over millions of people 
stemmed from the subtle and diabolical use of collaborators, who did most of 
the dirty work for them.  But does anybody now know about this?  This, and 
not what is "instilled" was the reality.  Of the Yad Vashem (official state 
Holocaust museum in Jerusalem - Ed.) theatre, I do not wish to speak at all. 
It, and its vile exploiting, such as honouring South Africa collaborators 
with the Nazis are truly beneath contempt.
          Therefore, if we knew a little of the truth about the Holocaust, 
we would at least understand (with or without agreeing) why the Palestinians 
are now eliminating their collaborators.  That is the only means they have 
if they wish to continue to struggle against our limb-breaking regime.

      Kind regards,

      [Israel Shahak]

Here is the story of one such Jewish collaborator:

          Moldetsky, a leader of the Zionist Workers Party (Poalei Zion), 
who was appointed head of the council of elders in Bedzin, and who, over the 
course of years, chose thousands of Jews for forced labor and extermination, 
succeeded in remaining alive.  For the mass deportations, Moldetsky 
published a decree which was completely fraudulent and deceiving, in which 
he said: "Jews, dress up in your holiday clothes and march joyfully to the 
gathering places mentioned above.  No one is to remain at home.  ..."  The 
Jews, in their innocence, obeyed him.  The result was that people with large 
families - as well as the elderly - a total of 8,000, were sent to 
Auschwitz.  The babies were pushed into sacks by the Nazis.
          ...
          After the war, Moldetsky - by merit of Zionist activities - was 
understandably one of the first to receive an immigration certificate to 
Palestine.  His collaboration in the murder of tens of thousands of Jews did 
not make him unfit in the eyes of the officials of the Jewish Agency, who 
were distributing the certificates.  He went to Eretz Yisroel where, it has 
been reported, the revengeful hand of the Jews of Bedzin killed him while he 
was taking a trip in the mountains.
      (Reb Moshe Shonfeld, The Holocaust Victims Accuse: Documents and 
Testimony on Jewish War Criminals, Neturei Karta of U.S.A., Brooklyn, 1977, 
pp. 122-123)

    The media make much of Ukrainians welcoming the invading Germans.  For 
example, on October 24, 1993, Morley Safer stated on the 60 Minutes story 
The Ugly Face of Freedom that "The same square [in Lviv, Ukraine] greeted 
Hitler's troops fifty years ago as liberators," making this seem like a 
symptom of a Ukrainian sympathy for Naziism.  What Mr. Safer did not specify 
is who were the people in that square who were welcoming Hitler's troops, 
and the truth was that all people - Ukrainians, Poles, and Jews - welcomed 
Hitler's troops.  Jews welcomed Hitler's troops?  Yes, so it would appear:


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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ZYD CRIMES IN RUSSIA  EXPOSED FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE
No wonder normal people hate the filthy Christkiller ZYDS, still after more
than 2000 years!

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:23:48 -0400, in soc.culture.canada "serwad"
 wrote:

Solzhenitsyn breaks last taboo of the revolution

Nobel laureate under fire for new book on the role of ZYDS/Jews in 
Soviet-era repression

Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who first exposed the horrors of the Stalinist 
gulag, is now attempting to tackle one of the most sensitive topics of his 
writing career - the role of the Jews in the Bolshevik revolution and Soviet 
purges.
In his latest book Solzhenitsyn, 84, deals with one of the last taboos of 
the communist revolution: that Jews were as much perpetrators of the 
repression as its victims. Two Hundred Years Together - a reference to the 
1772 partial annexation of Poland and Russia which greatly increased the 
Russian Jewish population - contains three chapters discussing the Jewish 
role in the revolutionary genocide and secret police purges of Soviet 
Russia.

  But Jewish leaders and some historians have reacted furiously to the book, 
and questioned Solzhenitsyn's motives in writing it, accusing him of factual 
inaccuracies and of fanning the flames of anti-semitism in Russia.
Solzhenitsyn argues that some Jewish satire of the revolutionary period 
"consciously or unconsciously descends on the Russians" as being behind the 
genocide. But he states that all the nation's ethnic groups must share the 
blame, and that people shy away from speaking the truth about the Jewish 
experience.

In one remark which infuriated Russian Jews, he wrote: "If I would care to 
generalise, and to say that the life of the Jews in the camps was especially 
hard, I could, and would not face reproach for an unjust national 
generalisation. But in the camps where I was kept, it was different. The 
Jews whose experience I saw - their life was softer than that of others."

Yet he added: "But it is impossible to find the answer to the eternal 
question: who is to be blamed, who led us to our death? To explain the 
actions of the Kiev cheka [secret police] only by the fact that two thirds 
were Jews, is certainly incorrect."

Solzhenitsyn, awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1970, spent much of 
his life in Soviet prison camps, enduring persecution when he wrote about 
his experiences. He is currently in frail health, but in an interview given 
last month he said that Russia must come to terms with the Stalinist and 
revolutionary genocides - and that its Jewish population should be as 
offended at their own role in the purges as they are at the Soviet power 
that also persecuted them.

"My book was directed to empathise with the thoughts, feelings and the 
psychology of the Jews - their spiritual component," he said. "I have never 
made general conclusions about a people. I will always differentiate between 
layers of Jews. One layer rushed headfirst to the revolution. Another, to 
the contrary, was trying to stand back. The Jewish subject for a long time 
was considered prohibited. Zhabotinsky [a Jewish writer] once said that the 
best service our Russian friends give to us is never to speak aloud about 
us."

But Solzhenitsyn's book has caused controversy in Russia, where one Jewish 
leader said it was "not of any merit".

"This is a mistake, but even geniuses make mistakes," said Yevgeny 
Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress. "Richard Wagner did 
not like the Jews, but was a great composer. Dostoyevsky was a great Russian 
writer, but had a very sceptical attitude towards the Jews.

"This is not a book about how the Jews and Russians lived together for 200 
years, but one about how they lived apart after finding themselves on the 
same territory. This book is a weak one professionally. Factually, it is so 
bad as to be beyond criticism. As literature, it is not of any merit."

But DM Thomas, one of Solzhenitsyn's biographers, said that he did not think 
the book was fuelled by anti-semitism. "I would not doubt his sincerity. He 
says that he firmly supports the state of Israel. In his fiction and factual 
writing there are Jewish characters that he writes about who are bright, 
decent, anti-Stalinist people."

Professor Robert Service of Oxford University, an expert on 20th century 
Russian history, said that from what he had read about the book, 
Solzhenitsyn was "absolutely right".

Researching a book on Lenin, Prof Service came across details of how 
Trotsky, who was of Jewish origin, asked the politburo in 1919 to ensure 
that Jews were enrolled in the Red army. Trotsky said that Jews were 
disproportionately represented in the Soviet civil bureaucracy, including 
the cheka.

"Trotsky's idea was that the spread of anti-semitism was [partly down to] 
objections about their entrance into the civil service. There is something 
in this; that they were not just passive spectators of the revolution. They 
were part-victims and part-perpetrators.

"It is not a question that anyone can write about without a huge amount of 
bravery, and [it] needs doing in Russia because the Jews are quite often 
written about by fanatics. Mr Solzhenitsyn's book seems much more measured 
than that."

Yet others failed to see the need for Solzhenitsyn's pursuit of this 
particular subject at present. Vassili Berezhkov, a retired KGB colonel and 
historian of the secret services and the NKVD (the precursor of the KGB), 
said: "The question of ethnicity did not have any importance either in the 
revolution or the story of the NKVD. This was a social revolution and those 
who served in the NKVD and cheka were serving ideas of social change.

"If Solzhenitsyn writes that there were many Jews in the NKVD, it will 
increase the passions of anti-semitism, which has deep roots in Russian 
history. I think it is better not to discuss such a question now."



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ZYD  Ritual Moerder der Kinder / Ritual Murder of Children-  Documented
No wonder  so many good Christian people really dislike the filthy  ZYDs 
known as Christkillers for more than 2000 years!

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip"
 wrote:

ZYD/JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; 
BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover 
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the 
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk.  Their burnt bodies have been found in 
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many 
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered 
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent 
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic 
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial 
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in 
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of 
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed 
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

"I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring 
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses 
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the 
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the 
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in 
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to 
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the 
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local 
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder 
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor 
overweight among the jury.

"The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the 
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without 
burial", Mr Nazarov said.

"And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the 
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes 
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, 
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the 
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with 
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 


On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:06:27 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>A well researched and documented article,deserving re-posting worldwide.

>On 4 Apr 2007 21:01:42 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "dsfkfnir
>lfdsjsafd"  wrote:

>BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WORKS SUPPORTING
>THE BLOOD ACCUSATION.

>Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band
>of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and
>1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by
>Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century.

> Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher
>(Gaume et Freres, 1845).

> Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler.

> Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice,
>1853-4).

> Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These
>two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent.

> Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill &
>Sons).

> Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913.

> Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563.

> A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into
>England, by William Prynne, 1656.

> Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant.

> Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und
>das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague
>Cathedral.

> La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue
>Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs.

> Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by
>Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is
>devoted to Ritual Murders.

> Le Mystčre du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri
>Desportes, 1889 (Savine).

> Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from
>M. Petit, 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general
>guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was
>Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals.

> Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt.

> Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag).

> Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927.

> Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich
>Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national
>representation of Jewish Ritual Murder."

> Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929.

> Der Stürmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg.
>The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate
>against the editor of Der Stürmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a
>valuable historical record.

> The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W.
>H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898).

> Isabella of Spain, by W. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125,
>439-468, and 628.
>References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder
>are made in the text when describing these cases.

>To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the
>Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion,
>appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C.
>Roth (Woburn Press, 1935)

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Last update - 13:57 20/03/2008

In Russia's third largest city, the blood libel is resurfacing

By Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz Correspondent

The blood libel is alive and well in certain circles in Russia. Dozens of
posters have appeared of late in Russia's third largest city, warning
residents to keep a close eye on their children as Passover approaches, lest
they fall victim to Jews seeking to make matzah out of their blood.

The posters, adhered to the walls of houses in the Siberian city of
Novosibirsk, warn: "These vermin are still performing rituals, stealing
small children and draining their blood to make their sacred bread."

They also link a recent spate of child disappearances and murders to Jewish
ritual sacrifices. 
 
The blood libel claims that Jews use the blood of gentiles - particularly
gentile children - to make ritual unleavened bread for Passover. It has been
around for centuries, prevalent primarily in Europe where it was used to
stir up violence and harsh reprisals against the Jewish community.

Amos Herman, Chairman of the Jewish Agency's branch responsible for fighting
anti-Semitism stated that "We are certain that the government of Russia will
find the perpetrators of this crime and solve this problem once and for
all." 

The Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia recently expressed concern
about the rise in attacks targeting Jews, calling it part of "a recent surge
in anti-Semitic manifestations" in Russia.

In 2007, 67 people were killed and more than 550 injured in ethnically
motivated attacks, according the SOVA rights center, which monitors hate
crimes. 

According to varying estimates, between 300,000 and 1.5 million Jews live in
the nation of 142 million. After an exodus in the years before and after
1991 Soviet collapse, the Jewish community is experiencing a moderate
revival, with new synagogues, schools and cultural centers being built
across the country.

During the Soviet era, thousands of Jews were imprisoned or executed as part
of nationwide purges, and many more were forced to conceal their Jewish
identity. 

Resurgence of the blood libel

Last year, Professor Ariel Toaff of Bar-Ilan University ignited a storm of
controversy when he published a book in Italy alleging that there is a
factual basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.

Toaff stood by his findings published in the book "Pasque di Sangue", but
said he was sorry his arguments had been twisted and later released a
revised edition of the book that clarified that Jews were not involved in
ritualized murder in medieval Europe.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966611.html

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In Russia's third largest city, the blood libel is resurfacing

By Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz Correspondent

The blood libel is alive and well in certain circles in Russia. Dozens of
posters have appeared of late in Russia's third largest city, warning
residents to keep a close eye on their children as Passover approaches, lest
they fall victim to Jews seeking to make matzah out of their blood.

The posters, adhered to the walls of houses in the Siberian city of
Novosibirsk, warn: "These vermin are still performing rituals, stealing
small children and draining their blood to make their sacred bread."

They also link a recent spate of child disappearances and murders to Jewish
ritual sacrifices. 
 
The blood libel claims that Jews use the blood of gentiles - particularly
gentile children - to make ritual unleavened bread for Passover. It has been
around for centuries, prevalent primarily in Europe where it was used to
stir up violence and harsh reprisals against the Jewish community.

Amos Herman, Chairman of the Jewish Agency's branch responsible for fighting
anti-Semitism stated that "We are certain that the government of Russia will
find the perpetrators of this crime and solve this problem once and for
all." 

The Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia recently expressed concern
about the rise in attacks targeting Jews, calling it part of "a recent surge
in anti-Semitic manifestations" in Russia.

In 2007, 67 people were killed and more than 550 injured in ethnically
motivated attacks, according the SOVA rights center, which monitors hate
crimes. 

According to varying estimates, between 300,000 and 1.5 million Jews live in
the nation of 142 million. After an exodus in the years before and after
1991 Soviet collapse, the Jewish community is experiencing a moderate
revival, with new synagogues, schools and cultural centers being built
across the country.

During the Soviet era, thousands of Jews were imprisoned or executed as part
of nationwide purges, and many more were forced to conceal their Jewish
identity. 

Resurgence of the blood libel

Last year, Professor Ariel Toaff of Bar-Ilan University ignited a storm of
controversy when he published a book in Italy alleging that there is a
factual basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews.

Toaff stood by his findings published in the book "Pasque di Sangue", but
said he was sorry his arguments had been twisted and later released a
revised edition of the book that clarified that Jews were not involved in
ritualized murder in medieval Europe.

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966611.html


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

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Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
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From Art@Arthurian.com Tue Apr 22 12:49:11 EDT 2008
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Vergiss niemals die verfluechte  Kristmordern ZYDS!!

ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE  MORDUJE W RUSSIA - Pravda/Wahrheit

Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt.
polityce.nacjonalizm.biel "Whip"
< nowhere@none > napisał:

"żYDOWSKI RYTUAł MORDUJE" W RUSSIA
PIĘĆ DZIECI ZNALAZłO CAłKOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SPłYNĘłA OD CIAł!
TRUPY zostały USTAWIONE w płomieniach, BY SCHOWAĆ KREW SPłYWAJąCą

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed początkiem Jewish Passover
dalej April 23, pięć dzieci, Muslim i Christian, "znikniętego" w
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk.  ich spalone ciała zostały
znalezione w kanalizacyjny dół.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj że
dużo Rosjanie w mieście są przekonani, że dzieci rytualnie zostały
zamordowane przez miejscowych Jews, którzy później spłonęli ich ciała ukryć
zbrodnię i zapobiec eksperci znaleźć w ciałach brak krwi, która jest
użyta przez Hasidic Żydzi dla celów rytuału.

Mało ludzi w mieście wierzy, że Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek
przychodzą do próby i, że morderstwa właściwie byłyby rozjaśnione
przez policyjnego investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny
Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentujący zainteresowania rodziców z
zamordowane dzieci powiedziały papierowi, że 5 niezależnych ekspertów
potwierdziło brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych ciałach.

" Jestem pewny, że to było rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem", on
powiedział.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups
Centrum, uzgadnia, że to było rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezależny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski
że jest duża Jewish społeczność w Krasnoyarsk i że
władze robią w ich moc czego, by ukryć, że to rytualne morderstwo
zaangażowane przez Żydzi. Świadek doniósł widzenie ciał dzieci
rzuconych nietkniętych dół jako zakazał przez Jewish rytuał i wtedy ktoś
spalony wtedy do ukrywają rany rytuału w określonych miejscach ciał 
zrobionych dla wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedział.

Badacz przypomniał dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913.
miejscowy Żydowski aktywista społeczności, Beilis, został zatrzymany i został
oskarżony morderstwa i później wypuścił przez sąd z powodu
niewystarczającego dowodu, z mniejszym nadwyżka wagi między sądem.

"Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky też miało miejsce mało dnia przed
Żydowski Passover, jego ciało też zostało skrwawione i zostało
rzucone pogrzeb", Mr którego Nazarov powiedział.

"I Beilis należał do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic gałęzi Judaism jako
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar ... kopie American gangstes
ćwiczy się (on został urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z
poparciem Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish
Governor Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin", Pan, z którym Nazarov dołączył jego
wywiad papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedź światową najlepszy ocenioną
stronę internetową dla  JEW - WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Teraz z więcej dowodem wychodzącym udowadniającym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z
NAZIŚCI - innych 51 przypadków oprócz sławnego przypadku Kastner - nic
dziwne ludzie dookoła świata naprawdę nie lubią Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawierają:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J. Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
JAZEERA AL - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
DRUT HOFFMAN - Dedicated do Freedom Press,
    Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History
    Poprzyj: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Albo, odwiedź stronę internetową dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :
http://www.natall.com
Oni mają dużo informacji, jak również książki i zapisy.


Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < Art@Arthurian.com >, albo do
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, albo Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Czuć się swobodnie , by zaprenumerować nas do maillists dla płci,
homoseksualistów i podobnego.


From Art@Arthurian.com Tue Apr 22 12:50:21 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his  one faggot  business Nizkor, [only gay McVay 
supposedly works there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged 
in completely Illegal  MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! 
They are being considered for  prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's  own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant




From Art@Arthurian.com Tue Apr 22 12:50:21 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine
Subject: Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING! PROOF!!
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Mcvay and his  one faggot  business Nizkor, [only gay McVay 
supposedly works there], together with Harry Mazal/BB ARE Engaged 
in completely Illegal  MONEY LAUNDERING and tax frauds! 
They are being considered for  prosecution in both USA & Canada!

Proof is from McVay's & Harry Mazal's  own postings detailing his money
laundering!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

No wonder BB are not happy at all the government investigations of the scam!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com>
Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant




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From: Frank Arthur 
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Subject: Why the World Hates the Jews/ZYDs
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Why after more than 2000 years does the World Still Hate the  Christkiller
ZYDS/Jews!


On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:18:34 -0500, in soc.culture.usa "DoD" 
wrote:

[Interesting, and probably true for most people outside the U.S. and a few
inside the U.S., but I dont think it tells the whole story]

Many of the bitter controversies in every corner of the globe inevitably
raise the same ancient question: why does the world hate the Jews?
Whether it's the angry international reaction to Israel's efforts to defend
itself in Lebanon, or Mel Gibson's drunken rant in Malibu, the age-old
specter of anti-Semitism refuses to disappear. With only 13 million Jews in
the world - less than one fourth of one percent of the earth's population -
why does this tiny group inspire such bitter, widespread and often violent
animosity?

The answer is obvious to anyone who monitors anti-Semitic propaganda from
all its multifarious sources. People who express hatred, resentment or fear
regarding the Jews almost always focus on charges of Jewish arrogance,
elitism, aggressiveness and lust for power.

According to the logic of anti-Semites everywhere, Jews deserve harsher
treatment than anyone else because they work harder than anyone else to
enshrine their own superior status. This argument suggests that the only way
to answer constant Jewish demands for special treatment and privilege is to
impose special limitations and restrictions on their instinctive will to
dominate.

According to such logic, the rest of the world must work together to cut
Jews down to size; only then will they function on the same plane as
everyone else. As Hutton Gibson (Holocaust-denying father of the
scandal-tarnished star, Mel) revealingly declared to interviewer Steve
Feuerstein: "I don't know what the Jewish agenda is except that it's all
about control. They're after one world religion and one world government."

This central, primeval charge that arrogant Jews seek global dominance
originates from three distinct historical factors:

1- The emphasis on the "Chosen People" concept in the Bible

2- The prominence and prosperity of Jews in most nations in which they've
established significant communities, and

3- The startling successes of the State of Israel in the mere 60 years of
its existence.

These circumstances sometimes perplex even people of good will and therefore
deserve deeper consideration and explanation.

I. CHOSEN PEOPLE CONCEPT

While it's true that the Bible speaks repeatedly of a special relationship
between God and the Jews, anti-Semitic agitators have always misunderstood
or distorted the essential nature of that connection. According to
Scripture, the Jews have been chosen for distinct responsibilities, not for
unique privileges: we accept special obligations, rather than claiming
special power. In Jewish tradition, non-Jews are expected to follow just
seven commandments-the Noahide laws of basic morality. According to
mainstream Torah teaching, gentiles who follow these rules (don't murder,
don't steal, don't commit gross sexual immorality, and so forth) should be
judged as righteous and assumed to earn their share in the World to Come
(the afterlife). God, however, expects his covenantal people to apply far
more numerous and stringent commandments to their behavior - 613
commandments, to be exact - regarding everything from food, to business
ethics, marital relations, and Sabbath observance.

The concept of chosen-ness, in other words, involves a significant burden
rather than privileged status -a burden reflected in the common phrase, "Ohl
Malchus Shamayim" or "The Yoke of the Kingdom of Heaven," to describe the
commitment of every Jew who accepts the covenant of Abraham. Moreover, Jews
remain more a "choosing people" than a "chosen people" because so many
non-Jews over the centuries (and particularly in recent years) have selected
Jewish identity and converted to our faith. In the US, nearly 10% of today's
Jewish population of 5.2 million counts as converts to Judaism. Though we
don't emphasize proselytizing efforts in the style of Evangelical
Christians, many of the leaders of the Jewish people (including hugely
significant rabbis in nearly every era for the last 2000 years) have been
"Jews by Choice" --- those who weren't born Jewish, but chose to join our
people through an ancient, well-established process of conversion.

Finally, the whole idea of the "Chosen People" has never brought the
assumption that God selected us for unusual political, military or even
economic authority. The Bible suggests that the Jews will be "a nation of
priests and a holy nation" --- not some sort of all-conquering superpower
within the Middle East or the world at large. Our tradition has always
defined Jewish power as spiritual, rather than practical and worldly. No
Jewish leader, going all the way back to Moses and Abraham, has ever
suggested that our people should dominate the world and control other
nations. The Bible specifies relatively modest borders for the Holy Land,
and repeatedly mentions the much larger, far more formidable empires to the
south (Egypt) and to the East (Babylonia, Assyria, Persia). Even during the
glory days of ancient Israel under David and Solomon the Jewish state never
achieved full control of that promised territory-let alone a world-girdling
empire. At that time, as with Israel today, the Jewish people sought only to
live unmolested within the confines of their own cherished land, each man
"beneath his own vine and own fig tree."

II. JEWISH PROMINENCE AND SUCCESS IN THE LANDS OF THE DIASPORA

No one can deny that Jews in the United States and in many other nations
recently have achieved surprising levels of prosperity and influence but any
talk of Jewish "dominance" or "control" in those societies remains the
province of neo-Nazi propagandists. There is no significant industry or
arena of endeavor - no, not one--in any nation in the world (outside of
Israel) in which Jews outnumber or rule over non-Jews. Even the famous
Jewish command of Hollywood is an ignorant myth concerning an increasingly
international industry in which the prominence of influential Jews has
actually decreased in the last seventy years. Most of the pioneering movie
studios founded and owned by immigrant Jewish families have either gone out
of the movie production business altogether (M-G-M) or else sold out to
strikingly non-Jewish corporations (Columbia to the Japanese Sony
Corporation, and 20th Century Fox to an Australian descendant of
Presbyterian clergy, Rupert Murdoch). The two largest entertainment
conglomerates in the world boast board chairmen who are African-American
(Richard Parsons at Time Warner) and Arab American (George Mitchell at
Disney) neither of whom are remotely Jewish. The yearly lists of Hollywood's
most influential power players, as identified by Premiere Magazine and other
sources, regularly show that close to one-fourth of the movers-and-shakers
are Jews-a disproportionate showing, to be sure, but hardly an indication of
Jewish dominance. Similarly, the Fortune 500 list of the nation's largest
corporations features a top ten ranking that includes three oil companies
with strong Arab ties and no affection whatever for Israel, as well as a car
company (Ford) founded by one of history's most outspoken anti-Semites, and
a retailer run by conservative Christians from Arkansas (Wal-Mart)-but not a
single corporation that was founded, run, or owned by Jews. Among the top
100, at most six (including Home Depot, Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers)
could classify in any way as "Jewish companies." With these incontrovertible
facts easy to verify for anyone with access to the internet or a library, it
becomes even more difficult to explain the persistent, pernicious and
utterly false belief that Jews "own" or "control" most of the world's banks,
newspapers, media companies and other important instiutions. Part of the
confusion involves appalling lies and misinformation: many callers to my
radio show somehow believe that the Rockefellers are Jewish (they were
actually German Christians who arrived in Philadelphia in 1723) or that the
Rothschild family-a favorite target of anti-Semites for more than 200
years-- still dominates world banking (the family's power actually peaked in
the Napoleonic era and their influence on the global economy today is either
invisible or non-existent).

There is also a tendency on the part of paranoid anti-Semites to search out
a few Jewish names even in areas in which Jews play minor roles in order to
triumphantly affirm the myth of "Jewish control." Consider the case of the
Bush administration and the frequent, laughably absurd charge that it's
somehow dominated by Jewish "neo-conservatives" who forced the President to
make war on Iraq for the sake of Israel. In truth, Jews remained
conspicuously absent from positions of authority during the first Bush term:
for the first time in more than 65 years (since the Presidency of FDR!) the
President's Cabinet (15 department heads in all) included not a single Jew.
The true believers in a Neo-Con cabal invariably cite just two names who
held sub-cabinet posts (Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense and
Douglas Feith, Under Secretary of Defense for Policy) and a single civilian
advisor to the Defense Department (Richard Perle, of the Defense Policy
Board) who doesn't even count as an administration employee. The
anti-Semites focus on these names not because of their importance (anyone
who believes that Wolfowitz and Feith secretly controlled their imperious,
tough-as-nails boss, Don Rumsfeld, knows nothing about Rummy) but because
they happen to be Jewish. Similarly, conspiracists like to blame Jews in the
Senate for pushing us into war with Iraq, while ignoring the fact that a
bare majority of the eleven Jewish Senators at the time (including such
fierce anti-war advocates as Russ Feingold and Barbara Boxer) actually voted
against the resolution authorizing war -at a time when nearly 80% of their
gentile colleagues lined up on the other side to support the President in
deposing Saddam Hussein.

To me, one of the most mystifying aspects of the stubborn belief in Jewish
influence and power is the notion that our fractious, deeply divided,
largely disaffiliated people somehow manages to get together to exert that
authority. I'm a Jewish radio talk show host, and so is the appalling (and
unfunny) Al Franken of Air America. We agree on nothing, and we've both
managed to survive several very angry, bitter, public confrontations. Do
Jew-haters believe that behind the scenes we receive the same secret memos
>from Jewish Conspiracy Central, or else get together in dank, shadowy rooms
to study the one-hundred-year-old hoax, "The Protocols of the Elders of
 Zion"? Less than half of the U.S. Jewish population (alas!) gives to any
Jewish charity, or holds membership in any synagogue, Temple, pro-Israel
lobbying group, B'nai B'rith lodge, or other Jewish organization.

In this context, the almost mystical, profoundly illogical belief in "Jewish
power" based on our over-representation among accountants and dentists
amounts to more than a delusion; it is, in fact, a sickness.

III: ISRAEL'S SUCCESS - AND ALLEGEDLY "EXPANSIONIST" AND "IMPERIALIST"
NATURE

In order to credit Islamist denunciations of an "Israeli Empire," or worry
that the perennially embattled Jewish state might indeed count as uniquely
aggressive and power hungry, one must remain incurably ignorant not only of
contemporary history but of rudimentary geography. The merest glance at a
map reveals the incontrovertible fact that Israel remains, in every sense, a
tiny nation. Egypt alone - representing only one of Israel's twenty hostile
Arab neighbors-is more than 48 times the land area of Israel. Adding
together only the various Arab nations (without including other vast Islamic
homelands like Iran and Afghanistan and Pakistan), the Arabs control well
over 300 times the area of the New Jersey-sized Jewish state. In other
words, even before President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran succeeds (God
forbid) in his plan to "wipe Israel from the map," 99.7% of the Arab lands
are already free of Jews.

Moreover, for nearly thirty years, Israel has been shrinking and
retreating - not expanding - hardly the behavior of an aggressive empire
bent on world domination. After capturing the Sinai Peninsula, Gaza and the
West Bank in a defensive war in 1967, Israel returned the vast Sinai to
Egypt in 1978, agreed to the establishment of a Palestinian State on most of
the West Bank and Gaza in 1993, vacated its security zone in Lebanon in
2000, abandoned Gaza entirely in 2005 and, under the current Prime Minister,
committed to moving out of nearly all territory in the West Bank in the near
future. In retrospect, some of these moves look like horrible policy
mistakes, but they unequivocally indicate that there is no basis at all to
suggest that Israeli aggression accounts for contemporary anti-Semitism.

The establishment of the modern Jewish state wasn't a cause of Jew hatred,
but a response to Jew hatred-not only in Europe, but throughout the Islamic
world where some 800,000 Middle Eastern and North African Jews were driven
>from their ancient communities and found new homes in Israel. None of Israel
's eight major wars has been about a Jewish lust for new territory. All of
them have been about a beleaguered nation's ceaseless attempts to make its
citizens secure from murderous attack in the distinctly limited area of
their ancestral homeland. Every Arab child in Lebanon, in Gaza, and in the
West Bank could sleep sweet, undisturbed slumber as soon as tomorrow night
if the adults once-and-for-all gave up their long-standing project of
driving the Jews out of the Middle East.

Contrary to anti-Semitic presumptions, Israel has never demanded special
privileges of any kind, but yearns (and bleeds) only for the same rights
other nations enjoy: to live undisturbed beside its neighbors without
unceasing attack by terrorists, militias and, occasionally, major armies.
Montenegro, the newest member of the family of nations after a referendum
this year, won independence and worldwide recognition despite the fact that
more than 45% of the electorate opposed bringing the nation into existence,
and only a bare majority claims Montenegran (as opposed to Serbian)
nationality. More than 80% of the residents of Israel are Jewish, and they
have fought tenaciously for their nationhood for nearly sixty years. The
desire for peaceful borders and acceptance from fanatical neighbors hardly
amounts to an Israeli demand of privileged status, but the refusal to grant
that recognition reflects the classical attitude of the anti-Semite: that
Jews indeed deserve different treatment from all other nations on earth but
in a negative, hostile and, ultimately murderous sense.

In conclusion, none of the three obsessive fears of Jew haters-the "Chosen
People" concept, Jewish prosperity in the Diaspora, and Israel's success (so
far) in nation-building and self-defense -demonstrates in any way a push for
world conquest or superior standing for the children of Abraham. How, then,
can we understand the imperishable belief that Jews function as an arrogant,
imperious, overbearing people? In a few words, that resentment stems in
truth from the age-old Jewish refusal to abandon our separate identity, our
irreducible distinctiveness through the millennia. My friends Dennis Prager
and Joseph Telushkin provide the most compelling exposition on this dynamic
in their invaluable book, Why the Jews?, recently reissued.

In any event, the logic becomes most accessible when considered in personal,
intimate terms. If a small group among your neighbors refuses invitations to
worship in your churches and mosques, to eat the food you prepare in your
homes, to marry your daughters, to embrace your nationalisms, or to share
your enthusiasm for the ultimate, universally applicable perfection of your
Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Byzantine, Catholic, Islamic, Nazi or Communist
worldview, then it's all but certain you will resent the members of that
stubborn group - and assume that they exclude themselves from elements of
your society due to an innate, obnoxious sense of superiority.

For Jews who try to remain faithful to the old covenant, there's no choice
about the unyielding refusal to assimilate and disappear-and no surprise at
the angry reaction in much of the world. After all, the Bible repeatedly
predicts that response. This realization doesn't make it any easier to cope
with anti-Semitism, but it does make the eternal hatred comprehensible. No
matter how inconvenient or unpopular, we get our marching orders from the
commandments--including the crucial and celebrated injunction to choose
life, for ourselves and our people.
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Why still after more than 2000 years does the World Still Hate the
Christkiller ZYDS/Jews!


On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:18:34 -0500, in soc.culture.usa "DoD" 
wrote:

[Interesting, and probably true for most people outside the U.S. and a few
inside the U.S., but I dont think it tells the whole story]

Many of the bitter controversies in every corner of the globe inevitably
raise the same ancient question: why does the world hate the Jews?
Whether it's the angry international reaction to Israel's efforts to defend
itself in Lebanon, or Mel Gibson's drunken rant in Malibu, the age-old
specter of anti-Semitism refuses to disappear. With only 13 million Jews in
the world - less than one fourth of one percent of the earth's population -
why does this tiny group inspire such bitter, widespread and often violent
animosity?

The answer is obvious to anyone who monitors anti-Semitic propaganda from
all its multifarious sources. People who express hatred, resentment or fear
regarding the Jews almost always focus on charges of Jewish arrogance,
elitism, aggressiveness and lust for power.

According to the logic of anti-Semites everywhere, Jews deserve harsher
treatment than anyone else because they work harder than anyone else to
enshrine their own superior status. This argument suggests that the only way
to answer constant Jewish demands for special treatment and privilege is to
impose special limitations and restrictions on their instinctive will to
dominate.

According to such logic, the rest of the world must work together to cut
Jews down to size; only then will they function on the same plane as
everyone else. As Hutton Gibson (Holocaust-denying father of the
scandal-tarnished star, Mel) revealingly declared to interviewer Steve
Feuerstein: "I don't know what the Jewish agenda is except that it's all
about control. They're after one world religion and one world government."

This central, primeval charge that arrogant Jews seek global dominance
originates from three distinct historical factors:

1- The emphasis on the "Chosen People" concept in the Bible

2- The prominence and prosperity of Jews in most nations in which they've
established significant communities, and

3- The startling successes of the State of Israel in the mere 60 years of
its existence.

These circumstances sometimes perplex even people of good will and therefore
deserve deeper consideration and explanation.

I. CHOSEN PEOPLE CONCEPT

While it's true that the Bible speaks repeatedly of a special relationship
between God and the Jews, anti-Semitic agitators have always misunderstood
or distorted the essential nature of that connection. According to
Scripture, the Jews have been chosen for distinct responsibilities, not for
unique privileges: we accept special obligations, rather than claiming
special power. In Jewish tradition, non-Jews are expected to follow just
seven commandments-the Noahide laws of basic morality. According to
mainstream Torah teaching, gentiles who follow these rules (don't murder,
don't steal, don't commit gross sexual immorality, and so forth) should be
judged as righteous and assumed to earn their share in the World to Come
(the afterlife). God, however, expects his covenantal people to apply far
more numerous and stringent commandments to their behavior - 613
commandments, to be exact - regarding everything from food, to business
ethics, marital relations, and Sabbath observance.

The concept of chosen-ness, in other words, involves a significant burden
rather than privileged status -a burden reflected in the common phrase, "Ohl
Malchus Shamayim" or "The Yoke of the Kingdom of Heaven," to describe the
commitment of every Jew who accepts the covenant of Abraham. Moreover, Jews
remain more a "choosing people" than a "chosen people" because so many
non-Jews over the centuries (and particularly in recent years) have selected
Jewish identity and converted to our faith. In the US, nearly 10% of today's
Jewish population of 5.2 million counts as converts to Judaism. Though we
don't emphasize proselytizing efforts in the style of Evangelical
Christians, many of the leaders of the Jewish people (including hugely
significant rabbis in nearly every era for the last 2000 years) have been
"Jews by Choice" --- those who weren't born Jewish, but chose to join our
people through an ancient, well-established process of conversion.

Finally, the whole idea of the "Chosen People" has never brought the
assumption that God selected us for unusual political, military or even
economic authority. The Bible suggests that the Jews will be "a nation of
priests and a holy nation" --- not some sort of all-conquering superpower
within the Middle East or the world at large. Our tradition has always
defined Jewish power as spiritual, rather than practical and worldly. No
Jewish leader, going all the way back to Moses and Abraham, has ever
suggested that our people should dominate the world and control other
nations. The Bible specifies relatively modest borders for the Holy Land,
and repeatedly mentions the much larger, far more formidable empires to the
south (Egypt) and to the East (Babylonia, Assyria, Persia). Even during the
glory days of ancient Israel under David and Solomon the Jewish state never
achieved full control of that promised territory-let alone a world-girdling
empire. At that time, as with Israel today, the Jewish people sought only to
live unmolested within the confines of their own cherished land, each man
"beneath his own vine and own fig tree."

II. JEWISH PROMINENCE AND SUCCESS IN THE LANDS OF THE DIASPORA

No one can deny that Jews in the United States and in many other nations
recently have achieved surprising levels of prosperity and influence but any
talk of Jewish "dominance" or "control" in those societies remains the
province of neo-Nazi propagandists. There is no significant industry or
arena of endeavor - no, not one--in any nation in the world (outside of
Israel) in which Jews outnumber or rule over non-Jews. Even the famous
Jewish command of Hollywood is an ignorant myth concerning an increasingly
international industry in which the prominence of influential Jews has
actually decreased in the last seventy years. Most of the pioneering movie
studios founded and owned by immigrant Jewish families have either gone out
of the movie production business altogether (M-G-M) or else sold out to
strikingly non-Jewish corporations (Columbia to the Japanese Sony
Corporation, and 20th Century Fox to an Australian descendant of
Presbyterian clergy, Rupert Murdoch). The two largest entertainment
conglomerates in the world boast board chairmen who are African-American
(Richard Parsons at Time Warner) and Arab American (George Mitchell at
Disney) neither of whom are remotely Jewish. The yearly lists of Hollywood's
most influential power players, as identified by Premiere Magazine and other
sources, regularly show that close to one-fourth of the movers-and-shakers
are Jews-a disproportionate showing, to be sure, but hardly an indication of
Jewish dominance. Similarly, the Fortune 500 list of the nation's largest
corporations features a top ten ranking that includes three oil companies
with strong Arab ties and no affection whatever for Israel, as well as a car
company (Ford) founded by one of history's most outspoken anti-Semites, and
a retailer run by conservative Christians from Arkansas (Wal-Mart)-but not a
single corporation that was founded, run, or owned by Jews. Among the top
100, at most six (including Home Depot, Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers)
could classify in any way as "Jewish companies." With these incontrovertible
facts easy to verify for anyone with access to the internet or a library, it
becomes even more difficult to explain the persistent, pernicious and
utterly false belief that Jews "own" or "control" most of the world's banks,
newspapers, media companies and other important instiutions. Part of the
confusion involves appalling lies and misinformation: many callers to my
radio show somehow believe that the Rockefellers are Jewish (they were
actually German Christians who arrived in Philadelphia in 1723) or that the
Rothschild family-a favorite target of anti-Semites for more than 200
years-- still dominates world banking (the family's power actually peaked in
the Napoleonic era and their influence on the global economy today is either
invisible or non-existent).

There is also a tendency on the part of paranoid anti-Semites to search out
a few Jewish names even in areas in which Jews play minor roles in order to
triumphantly affirm the myth of "Jewish control." Consider the case of the
Bush administration and the frequent, laughably absurd charge that it's
somehow dominated by Jewish "neo-conservatives" who forced the President to
make war on Iraq for the sake of Israel. In truth, Jews remained
conspicuously absent from positions of authority during the first Bush term:
for the first time in more than 65 years (since the Presidency of FDR!) the
President's Cabinet (15 department heads in all) included not a single Jew.
The true believers in a Neo-Con cabal invariably cite just two names who
held sub-cabinet posts (Paul Wolfowitz, Deputy Secretary of Defense and
Douglas Feith, Under Secretary of Defense for Policy) and a single civilian
advisor to the Defense Department (Richard Perle, of the Defense Policy
Board) who doesn't even count as an administration employee. The
anti-Semites focus on these names not because of their importance (anyone
who believes that Wolfowitz and Feith secretly controlled their imperious,
tough-as-nails boss, Don Rumsfeld, knows nothing about Rummy) but because
they happen to be Jewish. Similarly, conspiracists like to blame Jews in the
Senate for pushing us into war with Iraq, while ignoring the fact that a
bare majority of the eleven Jewish Senators at the time (including such
fierce anti-war advocates as Russ Feingold and Barbara Boxer) actually voted
against the resolution authorizing war -at a time when nearly 80% of their
gentile colleagues lined up on the other side to support the President in
deposing Saddam Hussein.

To me, one of the most mystifying aspects of the stubborn belief in Jewish
influence and power is the notion that our fractious, deeply divided,
largely disaffiliated people somehow manages to get together to exert that
authority. I'm a Jewish radio talk show host, and so is the appalling (and
unfunny) Al Franken of Air America. We agree on nothing, and we've both
managed to survive several very angry, bitter, public confrontations. Do
Jew-haters believe that behind the scenes we receive the same secret memos
>from Jewish Conspiracy Central, or else get together in dank, shadowy rooms
to study the one-hundred-year-old hoax, "The Protocols of the Elders of
 Zion"? Less than half of the U.S. Jewish population (alas!) gives to any
Jewish charity, or holds membership in any synagogue, Temple, pro-Israel
lobbying group, B'nai B'rith lodge, or other Jewish organization.

In this context, the almost mystical, profoundly illogical belief in "Jewish
power" based on our over-representation among accountants and dentists
amounts to more than a delusion; it is, in fact, a sickness.

III: ISRAEL'S SUCCESS - AND ALLEGEDLY "EXPANSIONIST" AND "IMPERIALIST"
NATURE

In order to credit Islamist denunciations of an "Israeli Empire," or worry
that the perennially embattled Jewish state might indeed count as uniquely
aggressive and power hungry, one must remain incurably ignorant not only of
contemporary history but of rudimentary geography. The merest glance at a
map reveals the incontrovertible fact that Israel remains, in every sense, a
tiny nation. Egypt alone - representing only one of Israel's twenty hostile
Arab neighbors-is more than 48 times the land area of Israel. Adding
together only the various Arab nations (without including other vast Islamic
homelands like Iran and Afghanistan and Pakistan), the Arabs control well
over 300 times the area of the New Jersey-sized Jewish state. In other
words, even before President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran succeeds (God
forbid) in his plan to "wipe Israel from the map," 99.7% of the Arab lands
are already free of Jews.

Moreover, for nearly thirty years, Israel has been shrinking and
retreating - not expanding - hardly the behavior of an aggressive empire
bent on world domination. After capturing the Sinai Peninsula, Gaza and the
West Bank in a defensive war in 1967, Israel returned the vast Sinai to
Egypt in 1978, agreed to the establishment of a Palestinian State on most of
the West Bank and Gaza in 1993, vacated its security zone in Lebanon in
2000, abandoned Gaza entirely in 2005 and, under the current Prime Minister,
committed to moving out of nearly all territory in the West Bank in the near
future. In retrospect, some of these moves look like horrible policy
mistakes, but they unequivocally indicate that there is no basis at all to
suggest that Israeli aggression accounts for contemporary anti-Semitism.

The establishment of the modern Jewish state wasn't a cause of Jew hatred,
but a response to Jew hatred-not only in Europe, but throughout the Islamic
world where some 800,000 Middle Eastern and North African Jews were driven
>from their ancient communities and found new homes in Israel. None of Israel
's eight major wars has been about a Jewish lust for new territory. All of
them have been about a beleaguered nation's ceaseless attempts to make its
citizens secure from murderous attack in the distinctly limited area of
their ancestral homeland. Every Arab child in Lebanon, in Gaza, and in the
West Bank could sleep sweet, undisturbed slumber as soon as tomorrow night
if the adults once-and-for-all gave up their long-standing project of
driving the Jews out of the Middle East.

Contrary to anti-Semitic presumptions, Israel has never demanded special
privileges of any kind, but yearns (and bleeds) only for the same rights
other nations enjoy: to live undisturbed beside its neighbors without
unceasing attack by terrorists, militias and, occasionally, major armies.
Montenegro, the newest member of the family of nations after a referendum
this year, won independence and worldwide recognition despite the fact that
more than 45% of the electorate opposed bringing the nation into existence,
and only a bare majority claims Montenegran (as opposed to Serbian)
nationality. More than 80% of the residents of Israel are Jewish, and they
have fought tenaciously for their nationhood for nearly sixty years. The
desire for peaceful borders and acceptance from fanatical neighbors hardly
amounts to an Israeli demand of privileged status, but the refusal to grant
that recognition reflects the classical attitude of the anti-Semite: that
Jews indeed deserve different treatment from all other nations on earth but
in a negative, hostile and, ultimately murderous sense.

In conclusion, none of the three obsessive fears of Jew haters-the "Chosen
People" concept, Jewish prosperity in the Diaspora, and Israel's success (so
far) in nation-building and self-defense -demonstrates in any way a push for
world conquest or superior standing for the children of Abraham. How, then,
can we understand the imperishable belief that Jews function as an arrogant,
imperious, overbearing people? In a few words, that resentment stems in
truth from the age-old Jewish refusal to abandon our separate identity, our
irreducible distinctiveness through the millennia. My friends Dennis Prager
and Joseph Telushkin provide the most compelling exposition on this dynamic
in their invaluable book, Why the Jews?, recently reissued.

In any event, the logic becomes most accessible when considered in personal,
intimate terms. If a small group among your neighbors refuses invitations to
worship in your churches and mosques, to eat the food you prepare in your
homes, to marry your daughters, to embrace your nationalisms, or to share
your enthusiasm for the ultimate, universally applicable perfection of your
Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Byzantine, Catholic, Islamic, Nazi or Communist
worldview, then it's all but certain you will resent the members of that
stubborn group - and assume that they exclude themselves from elements of
your society due to an innate, obnoxious sense of superiority.

For Jews who try to remain faithful to the old covenant, there's no choice
about the unyielding refusal to assimilate and disappear-and no surprise at
the angry reaction in much of the world. After all, the Bible repeatedly
predicts that response. This realization doesn't make it any easier to cope
with anti-Semitism, but it does make the eternal hatred comprehensible. No
matter how inconvenient or unpopular, we get our marching orders from the
commandments--including the crucial and celebrated injunction to choose
life, for ourselves and our people.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23787


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.


From Art@Arthurian.com Tue Apr 22 12:50:24 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.palestine,alt.homosexuality
Subject: Frank Arthur=alias Grosvenor=Gay Ken McVay - Invites Calls & Visits
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Yes for sooth , I am indeed  Frank Arthur - sometimes alias Grosvenor -  
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

Frank Arthur  [me]  sometimes I post using  Bellsouth Internet Group, 
except when I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor  [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to 
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really  gay Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.


From Art@Arthurian.com Thu Apr 24 14:43:53 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
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Yes for sooth , I am indeed  Frank Arthur - sometimes alias Grosvenor -  
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

Frank Arthur  [me]  sometimes I post using  Bellsouth Internet Group, 
except when I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor  [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to 
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really  gay Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.


From Art@Arthurian.com Thu Apr 24 14:45:10 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian
Subject: Some Teachings of  ZYD Talmud - ZYDs may lie, cheat, and steal, from Goyim
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Some Teachings of  ZYD Talmud - Christkiller ZYDs may lie, cheat, 
and steal, from Goyim

>On 18 Aug 2006 07:13:30 -0700, in uk.politics.misc "Jason P"
> wrote:

>Some Teachings of the  ZYD Talmud

>Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite
>there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an
>Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

>Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no
>death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

>Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a
>Gentile.

>Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
And here is my address as promised, so call or visit:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 

or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@nizkor.org.

Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.


From Art@Arthurian.com Thu Apr 24 14:45:10 EDT 2008
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From: Frank  Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.australian,soc.culture.europe,uk.politics.misc
Subject: SHOAH IS SIMPLY ZYD MONEY-MAKER!!
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Reply-To: "El Conquistador" 
From: "El Conquistador" 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,soc.culture.usa,
soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.russian
Subject: "SHOA" IS SIMPLY A MONEY MAKING VENTURE...

JEWS MAKE BILLIONS WITH THEIR OWN INVENTION OF HOLOCAUST.
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IS STAGGERING THAT THEY RAISE FROM THE 
AMERICAN TAXPAYER FOR THEIR BULLSHIT.

JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THIS TAX RETURN OF ONE SMALL BRANCH OF
SIMON WIESENTHAL CENTRE:
http://fpp.co.uk/docs/Wiesenthal/swc_finances_2002.pdf


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
And here is my address as promised, so call or visit:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 

or to Steve Horn ,
or to KenMcVay@nizkor.org.

Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.


From Art@Arthurian.com Thu Apr 24 14:45:11 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.europe
Subject: WIESENTHAL = ZYD KOLLABORATEUR MIT NAZIS! WAHR 1/2
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:16:48 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Sonia Cabrera
 wrote:

Weiss jemand genaueres über die Vorwürfe, das Wiesenthal mit der Gestapo
kollaborierte? In der Tagesschau wurde gemeldet, das Wiesenthal die
Kollaboration unterstellt wurde, da es unerklärlich scheint, das er 12
verschiedene KZs überlebte.
Dazu folgendes im Netz:

Eichmann reiste zusammen mit Hagen. Ihr Unternehmen war in der Ge- schichte
der Kooperation zwischen Zionisten und Nazis gewiß nur eine Episode. Aber
die Tatsache, daß der berüchtigte Judenmörder Eichmann damals bei den
Zionisten sich größter Wertschätzung er- freute, war so entlarvend, daß man
sie tunlichst zu verbergen trachtete. Da die Tatsache der Reise früher oder
später ans Licht kommen mochte, wählte man das einfachste Verfahren: Man
gab den Schwarzen Peter weiter. Bereits 1947 findet sich in einer Broschüre
von Simon Wiesenthal die Mitteilung, Eichmanns Reise habe dem Ziel gedient,
Kontakt zu den aufständischen Palästinensern aufzunehmen und mit dem Mufti
zu konspirieren.[28] Diese Lüge hat seither immer neue Varianten erlebt und
ist sogar im Eichmann-Prozess in Jerusalem wiederholt worden.

http://www.aldeilis.net/zion/zionhol12.html


On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:30:16 -0700, in soc.culture.palestine
WakeUp2005@adelphia.net wrote:

Simon Wiesenthal: Fraudulent 'Nazi Hunter'
By Mark Weber

For more than 40 years, Simon Wiesenthal has been tracking hundreds of
"Nazi criminals" from his "Jewish Documentation Center" in Vienna. For
his work as the world's most prominent "Nazi hunter," he has been
awarded several honorary degrees and numerous medals, including
Germany's highest decoration. In a formal White House ceremony in
August 1980, a teary-eyed President Carter presented him with a
special gold medal awarded by the US Congress. President Reagan
praised him in November 1988 as one of the "true heroes" of this
century.

This living legend was portrayed in flattering terms by the late
Laurence Oliver in the 1978 film fantasy "The Boys From Brazil," and
by Ben Kingsley in the 1989 HBO made-for-television movie "Murderers
Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal Story." One of world's most prominent
Holocaust organizations bears his name: the Simon Wiesenthal Center of
Los Angeles.

Wiesenthal's reputation as a moral authority is undeserved. The man
whom The Washington Post has called the "Holocaust's Avenging Angel"
[1] has a little known but well-documented record of reckless
disregard for truth. He has lied about his own wartime experiences,
misrepresented his postwar "Nazi-hunting" achievements, and has spread
vile falsehoods about alleged German atrocities.

Different Stories
Szymon (Simon) Wiesenthal was born on December 31, 1908, in Buczacz, a
town in the province of Galicia (now Buchach in Ukraine) in what was
then the eastern fringe of the Austro-Hungarian empire. His father was
a prosperous wholesale sugar merchant.

In spite of all that has been written about him, just what Wiesenthal
did during the war years under German occupation remains unclear. He
has given conflicting stories in three separate accounts of his
wartime activities. The first was given under oath during a two day
interrogation session in May 1948 conducted by an official of the US
Nuremberg war crimes commission. [2] The second is a summary of his
life provided by Wiesenthal as part of a January 1949 "Application for
Assistance" to the International Refugee Committee. [3] And the third
account is given in his autobiography, The Murderers Among Us, first
published in 1967. [4]

Soviet Engineer or Factory Mechanic?
In his 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal declared that "between 1939 and
1941" he was a "Soviet chief engineer working in Lvov and Odessa." [5]
Consistent with that, he stated in his 1949 declaration that from
December 1939 to April 1940 he worked as an architect in the Black Sea
port of Odessa. But according to his autobiography, he spent the
period between mid-September 1939 and June 1941 in Soviet-ruled Lvov,
where he worked "as a mechanic in a factory that produced bedsprings."
[6]

Relative Freedom
After the Germans took control of Galicia province in June 1941,
Wiesenthal was interned for a time in the Janowska concentration camp
near Lvov, from where he was transferred a few months later to a camp
affiliated with the repair works (OAW) in Lvov of the Ostbahn
("Eastern Railroad") of German-ruled Poland. Wiesenthal reported in
his autobiography that he worked there "as a technician and
draftsman," that he was rather well treated, and that his immediate
superior, who was "secretly anti-Nazi," even permitted him to own two
pistols. He had his own office in a "small wooden hut," and enjoyed
"relative freedom and was permitted to walk all over the yards." [7]

Partisan Fighter?
The next segment of Wiesenthal's life -- from October 1943 to June
1944 -- is the most obscure, and his accounts of this period are
contradictory. During his 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal said that he
fled from the Janowska camp in Lvov and joined a "partisan group which
operated in the Tarnopol-Kamenopodolsk area." [8] He said that "I was
a partisan from October 6, 1943, until the middle of February 1944,"
and declared that his unit fought against Ukrainian forces, both of
the SS "Galicia" division and of the independent UPA partisan force.
[9]

Wiesenthal said that he held the rank of lieutenant and then major,
and was responsible for building bunkers and fortification lines.
Although he was not explicit, he suggested that this (supposed)
partisan unit was part of the Armia Ludowa ("Peoples Army"), the
Polish Communist military force established and controlled by the
Soviets. [10]

He said that he and other partisans slipped into Lvov in February
1944, where they were "hidden by friends of the A.L. ['People's Army']
group." On June 13, 1944, his group was captured by the German Secret
Field Police. (Although Jewish partisans caught in hiding were often
shot, Wiesenthal reports that he was somehow spared.) Wiesenthal told
much the same story in his 1949 statement. He said that he fled from
internment in early October 1943 and then "fought against the Germans
as a partisan in the forest" for eight months -- from October 2, 1943,
to March 1944. After that, he was "in hiding" in Lvov from March to
June 1944.

Wiesenthal tells a totally different story in his 1967 autobiography.
He reports there that after escaping from the Ostbahn Repair Works on
Oct. 2, 1943, he lived in hiding in the houses of various friends
until June 13, 1944, when he was discovered by Polish and German
police and returned to a concentration camp. He makes no mention of
any partisan membership or activity. [11]

According to both his 1948 interrogation and his 1967 autobiography,
he tried to commit suicide on June 15, 1944, by cutting his wrists.
Remarkably, though, he was saved from death by German SS doctors and
recovered in an SS hospital. [12] He remained in the Lvov
concentration camp "with double rations" for a time, and then, he
reports in his autobiography, he was transferred to various work
camps. He spent the remaining chaotic months, until the end of the
war, in different camps until he was liberated from Mauthausen (in
Austria) by American forces on May 5, 1945. [13]

Did Wiesenthal invent a past as a heroic wartime partisan? Or did he
later try to suppress his record as a Communist fighter? Or is the
true story altogether different -- and too shameful to admit?

Nazi Agent?
Did Wiesenthal voluntarily work for his wartime oppressors? That's the
accusation leveled by Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky, himself of
Jewish ancestry and leader for many years of his country's Socialist
Party. During an interview with foreign journalists in 1975, Kreisky
charged Wiesenthal with using "Mafia methods," rejected his pretense
of "moral authority," and suggested that he was an agent for the
German authorities. Some of his more pertinent remarks, which appeared
in Austria's leading news magazine Profil, include: [14]

I really know Mr. Wiesenthal only from secret reports, and they are
bad, very nasty. I say this as Federal Chancellor ... And I say that
Mr. Wiesenthal had a different relationship with the Gestapo than I
did. Yes, and this can be proven. I can't say more [now]. Everything
else, I'll say in court.

My relationship with the Gestapo is unambiguous. I was their prisoner,
their inmate, and I was interrogated. His relationship was a different
one, I can say, and this will come out clearly. It's bad enough what
I've already said here. But he can't clear himself by charging me with
defaming his honor in the press, as he might wish. It's not that
simple, because that would mean a big court case ... A man like this
doesn't have the right to pretend to be a moral authority. That's what
I say. He doesn't have the right ...

Whether a man who, in my view, is an agent, yes, that's right, and who
uses Mafia methods ... Such a man has to go ...

He is no gentleman, and I would say, to make this clear, so that he
won't become a moral authority, because he is not ... He shouldn't
pretend to be a moral authority ...

I say that Mr. Wiesenthal lived in that time in the Nazi sphere of
influence without being persecuted. Right? And he lived openly without
being persecuted, right? Is that clear? And you perhaps know, if you
know what was going on, that no one could risk that.

He wasn't a "submarine" ... that is, submerged and in hiding, but
instead, he was completely in the open without having to, well, ever
risk persecution. I think that's enough. There were so many
opportunities to be an agent. He didn't have to be a Gestapo agent.
There were many other services.

In response to these damning words, Wiesenthal began efforts to bring
a lawsuit against the Chancellor. Eventually, though, both Wiesenthal
and Kreisky backed away from a major legal clash.

Mauthausen Myths
Before he became famous as a "Nazi hunter," he made a name for himself
as a propagandist. In 1946 Wiesenthal published KZ Mauthausen, an
85-page work that consists mainly of his own amateurish sketches
purporting to represent the horrors of the Mauthausen concentration
camp. One drawing depicts three inmates who had been bound to posts
and brutally put to death by the Germans. [15]

The sketch is completely phony. It was copied -- with some minor
alterations -- from photographs that appeared in Life magazine in
1945, which graphically record the firing-squad execution in December
1944 of three German soldiers who had been caught operating as spies
behind the lines during the "Battle of the Bulge." [16] The source of
the Wiesenthal drawing is instantly obvious to anyone who compares it
with the Life photos. [17]

The irresponsible character of this book is also shown by Wiesenthal's
extensive citation therein of the supposed "death bed confession" of
Mauthausen Commandant Franz Ziereis, according to which four million
were gassed to death with carbon monoxide at the nearby Hartheim
satellite camp. [18] This claim is totally absurd, and no serious
Holocaust historian still accepts it. [19] Also according to the
Ziereis "confession" cited by Wiesenthal, the Germans supposedly
killed another ten million people in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.
[20] In fact, this fraudulent "confession" was obtained by torture.
[21]

Years later, Wiesenthal was still lying about Mauthausen. In a 1983
interview with the daily newspaper USA Today, he said of his
experience in Mauthausen: "I was one of 34 prisoners alive out of
150,000 who had been put there." [22] This is a blatant falsehood. The
years have apparently not been kind to Wiesenthal's memory, because in
his own autobiography he wrote that "almost 3,000 prisoners died in
Mauthausen after the Americans liberated us on May 5, 1945." [23]
Another former inmate, Evelyn Le Chene, reported in her standard work
about Mauthausen that there were 64,000 inmates in the camp when it
was liberated in May 1945. [24] And according to the Encyclopaedia
Judaica, at least 212,000 inmates survived internment in the
Mauthausen camp complex. [25]

After the war Wiesenthal worked for the US Office of Strategic
Services (the forerunner of the CIA) and the US Army's
Counter-Intelligence Corps (CIC). He was also vice chairman of the
Jewish Central Committee in the US occupation zone of Austria. [26]

'Human Soap'
Wiesenthal has given circulation and credence to one of the most
scurrilous Holocaust stories, the charge that the Germans manufactured
soap from the corpses of murdered Jews. According to this tale, the
letters "RIF" in bars of German-made soap allegedly stood for "Pure
Jewish Fat" ("Rein judisches Fett"). In reality, the initials stood
for "National Center for Industrial Fat Provisioning" ("Reichstelle
fur industrielle Fettversorgung"). [27]

Wiesenthal promoted the "human soap" legend in articles published in
1946 in the Austrian Jewish community paper Der Neue Weg ("The New
Path"). In an article entitled "RIF," he wrote: "The terrible words
'transport for soap' were first heard at the end of 1942. It was in
the [Polish] General Government, and the factory was in Galicia, in
Belzec. From April 1942 until May 1943, 900,000 Jews were used as raw
material in this factory." After the corpses were turned into various
raw materials, Wiesenthal wrote, "The rest, the residual fat stuff,
was used for soap production."

He continued: "After 1942 people in the General Government knew quite
well what the RIF soap meant. The civilized world may not believe the
joy with which the Nazis and their women in the General Government
thought of this soap. In each piece of soap they saw a Jew who had
been magically put there, and had thus been prevented from growing
into a second Freud, Ehrlich or Einstein." [28]

In another imaginative article published in 1946 entitled "Belzec Soap
Factory," Wiesenthal alleged that masses of Jews were exterminated in
electrocution showers: [29]

The people, pressed together and driven on by the SS, Latvians and
Ukrainians, go through the open door into the "bath." Five hundred
persons could fit at a time. The floor of the "bath chamber" was made
of metal and shower heads hung from the ceiling. When the room was
full, the SS turned on the 5,000 volts of electric current in the
metal plate. At the same time water poured from the shower heads. A
short scream and the execution was over. An SS chief physician named
Schmidt determined through a peep hole that the victims were dead. The
second door was opened and the "corpse commando" came in and quickly
removed the dead. It was ready for the next 500.

Today no serious historian accepts the stories that Jewish corpses
were manufactured into bars of soap or that Jews were electrocuted to
death at Belzec (or anywhere).

Wiesenthal's imaginative view of history is not limited to the
twentieth century. In his 1973 book Sails of Hope, he argued that
Christopher Columbus was a secret Jew, and that his famous voyage to
the western hemisphere in 1492 was actually a search for a new
homeland for Europe's Jews. [30]

Wiesenthal is not always wrong, of course. In 1975 and again in 1993
he publicly acknowledged that "there were no extermination camps on
German soil." [31] He thus implicitly conceded that the claims made at
the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal and elsewhere that Buchenwald, Dachau
and other camps in Germany proper were "extermination camps" are not
true.

'Fabrications' About Eichmann
In more than 40 years of "Nazi hunting," Wiesenthal's role in locating
and capturing Adolf Eichmann is often considered his greatest
achievement. [32] (Eichmann headed the wartime SS Jewish affairs
department. He was kidnapped by Israeli agents in Argentina in May
1960 and hanged in Jerusalem after a trial that received worldwide
media attention.)

But Isser Harel, the Israeli official who headed the team that seized
Eichmann, has declared unequivocally that Wiesenthal had "absolutely
nothing" to do with the capture. (Harel is a former head of both the
Mossad and Shin Bet, Israel's foreign and domestic security agencies.)
[33]

Wiesenthal not only "had no role whatsoever" in the apprehension, said
Harel, but in fact he endangered the entire Eichmann operation. In a
278-page manuscript, Harel carefully refuted every claim by Wiesenthal
about his supposed role in identifying and capturing Eichmann. Claims
by Wiesenthal and his many friends about his supposedly crucial role
in capturing the former SS officer, said Harel, have no foundation in
fact. Many specific assertions and incidents described in two books by
Wiesenthal, said the Israeli official, are "complete fabrications."
[34]

"Wiesenthal's reports and statements at that period prove beyond any
doubt that he had no notion of Eichmann's whereabouts," said Harel.
[35] (For example, just before Eichmann's capture in Argentina,
Wiesenthal was placing him in Japan and Saudi Arabia.) [36]

Characterizing Wiesenthal as a rank opportunist, Harel summed up: "All
the information supplied by Wiesenthal before and in anticipation of
the [Eichmann] operation was utterly worthless, and sometimes even
misleading and of negative value." [37]

Reckless Charges in Walus Case
One of Wiesenthal's most spectacular cases involved a Polish-born
Chicago man named Frank Walus. In a letter dated December 10, 1974, he
charged that Walus "delivered Jews to the Gestapo" in Czestochowa and
Kielce in Poland during the war. This letter prompted a US government
investigation and legal action. [38] The Washington Post dealt with
the case in a 1981 article entitled "The Nazi Who Never Was: How a
witch hunt by judge, press and investigators branded an innocent man a
war criminal." The lengthy piece, which was copyrighted by the
American Bar Association, reported: [39]

In January 1977, the United States government accused a Chicagoan
named Frank Walus of having committed atrocities in Poland during
World War II.


And here is my address as promised, so call or visit:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 



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In the following years, this retired factory worker went into debt in
order to raise more than $60,000 to defend himself. He sat in a
courtroom while eleven Jewish survivors of the Nazi occupation of
Poland testified that they saw him murder children, an old woman, a
young woman, a hunchback and others ...

Overwhelming evidence shows that Walus was not a Nazi War criminal,
that he was not even in Poland during World War II.

... In an atmosphere of hatred and loathing verging on hysteria, the
government persecuted an innocent man. In 1974, Simon Wiesenthal, the
famous "Nazi hunter" of Vienna, denounced Walus as "a Pole in Chicago
who performed duties with the Gestapo in the ghettos of Czestochowa
and Kielce and handed over a number of Jews to the Gestapo."

The Chicago weekly newspaper Reader also reported on the case in a
detailed 1981 article headlined: "The Persecution of Frank Walus: To
Catch a Nazi: The U.S. government wanted a war criminal. So, with the
help of Simon Wiesenthal, the Israeli police, the local press and
Judge Julius Hoffman, they invented one." [40] The article stated:

... It is logical to assume that the "reports received by Wiesenthal
[against Walus] actually were rumors... In other words, Simon
Wiesenthal had no evidence against Walus. He denounced him anyway.

While [Judge] Hoffman had the Walus case under advisement, Holocaust
aired on television. During the same period, in April 1978, Simon
Wiesenthal came to Chicago, where he gave interviews taking credit for
the Walus case. "How Nazi-Hunter Helped Find Walus," was the Sun-Times
headline on a story by Bob Olmstead. Wiesenthal told Sun-Times Abe
Peck that he "has never had a case of mistaken identity." "I know
there are thousands of people who wait for my mistake," he said.

It was only after an exhausting legal battle that the man who was
vilified and physically attacked as "the butcher of Kielce" was
finally able to prove that he had spent the war years as a peaceful
farm laborer in Germany. Frank Walus died in August 1994, a broken and
bitterly disappointed man, man.

Wiesenthal's recklessness in the Walus case should have been enough to
permanently discredit him as a reliable investigator. But his Teflon
reputation survived even this.

Wrong about Mengele
Much of the Wiesenthal myth is based on his hunt for Joseph Mengele,
the wartime physician at Auschwitz known as the "Angel of Death." Time
and time again, Wiesenthal claimed to be close on Mengele's heels.
Wiesenthal reported that his informants had "seen" or "just missed"
the elusive physician in Peru, Chile, Brazil, Spain, Greece, and half
a dozen locations in Paraguay. [41]

One of the closest shaves came in the summer of 1960. Wiesenthal
reported that Mengele had been hiding out on a small Greek island,
>from where he escaped by just a few hours. Wiesenthal continued to
peddle this story, complete with precise details, even after a
reporter whom he had hired to check it out informed him that the tale
was false from beginning to end. [42]

According to another Wiesenthal report, Mengele arranged for the
murder in 1960 of one of his former victims, a woman he had supposedly
sterilized in Auschwitz. After spotting her, and her distinctive camp
tattoo, at a hotel in Argentina where he was staying, Mengele
allegedly arranged to have her killed because he feared that she would
expose him. It turned out that the woman was never in a concentration
camp, had no tattoo, had never met Mengele, and her death was a simple
mountaineering accident. [43]

Mengele regularly dined at the finest restaurants in Asuncion, the
Paraguayan capital, Wiesenthal said in 1977, and supposedly drove
around the city with a bevy of armed guards in his black Mercedes
Benz. [44]

Wiesenthal announced in 1985 that he was "100 percent sure" that
Mengele had been hiding out in Paraguay until at least June 1984, and
charged that the Mengele family in Germany knew exactly where. As it
turned out, Wiesenthal was completely wrong. It was later definitively
established that Mengele had died in 1979 in Brazil, where he had been
living for years in anonymous poverty. [45]

Israel's ambassador to Paraguay from 1968 to 1972, Benjamin (Benno)
Varon, remarked in 1983 on the Mengele campaign: "Wiesenthal makes
periodic statements that he is about to catch him, perhaps since
Wiesenthal must raise funds for his activities and the name Mengele is
always good for a plug." Wiesenthal "failed miserably" in the Mengele
case, the diplomat said on another occasion. [46] In the Mengele case,
former Mossad chief Harel remarked, "Wiesenthal's folly borders on the
criminal." [47]

In truth, the bulging Mengele file in Wiesenthal's Vienna
"Documentation Center" was such a jumble of useless information that,
in the words of the London Times, it "only sustained his
self-confirmatory myths and gave scant satisfaction to those who
apparently needed a definitive answer to Mengele's fate." [48]

In the considered view of Gerald Posner and John Ware, coauthors of
Mengele: The Complete Story, Wiesenthal spent years assiduously
cultivating a mythical "self-image of a tireless, dogged sleuth,
pitted against the omnipotent and sinister might of Mengele and a vast
Nazi network." Because of his "knack of playing to the gallery,"
Posner and Ware concluded, Wiesenthal "ultimately compromised his
credibility." [49]

'Incompetence and Arrogance'
Eli Rosenbaum, an official with the US government's "Nazi hunting"
Office of Special Investigations and an investigator for the World
Jewish Congress, took aim at Wiesenthal's carefully cultivated "Nazi
hunter" reputation in a detailed 1993 book, Betrayal. [50] For
example, Rosenbaum mentioned, Wiesenthal "had all these reports
placing Mengele in almost every country in Latin America except the
one he was in -- namely, Brazil." [51]

Wiesenthal, wrote Rosenbaum, has been a "pathetically ineffective"
investigator who had "gone far beyond the buffoonery and false boasts
in prior years." Much of his illustrious career, Rosenbaum said, has
been characterized by "incompetence and arrogance." [52]

Bruno Kreisky once summed up his attitude towards the "Nazi hunter" in
these words: [53]

The engineer Wiesenthal, or whatever else his title is, hates me
because he knows that I despise his activity. The Wiesenthal group is
a quasi-political Mafia that works against Austria with disgraceful
methods. Wiesenthal is known as someone who isn't very careful about
the truth, who is not very selective about his methods and who uses
tricks. He pretends to be the "Eichmann hunter," even though everyone
knows that this was the work of a secret service, and that Wiesenthal
only takes credit for that.

'Commercializing' the Holocaust
The Los Angeles Wiesenthal Center pays the Vienna "Nazi Hunter"
$75,000 a year for the use of his name, the director of Israel's Yad
Vashem Holocaust center said in 1988.

Both the Center and Wiesenthal "commercialize" and "trivialize" the
Holocaust, the director added.

Wiesenthal "threw out" the figure of "11 million who were murdered in
the Holocaust -- six million Jews and five million non-Jews," said the
Yad Vashem official. When asked why he gave these figures, Wiesenthal
replied: "The gentiles will not pay attention if we do not mention
their victims, too." Wiesenthal "chose 'five million (gentiles)'
because he wanted a 'diplomatic' number, one that told of a large
number of gentile victims but in no way was larger than that of Jews
..." [54]

"What Wiesenthal and the Los Angeles Center that bears his name do is
to trivialize the Holocaust," commented The Jewish Press, a weekly
that claims to be the largest-circulation English-language Jewish
community paper in America.

In recent years Wiesenthal has been concerned about the growing impact
of Holocaust revisionism. In "A Message from Simon Wiesenthal"
published by the Center that bears his name, he said: "Today, when I
see the rise of antisemitism here in Europe ... the popularity of Le
Pen, of David Duke, of the Holocaust revisionists, then I am convinced
more than ever about the need for our new [Wiesenthal Center] Beit
Hashoah-Museum of Tolerance" in Los Angeles. [55]

Wiesenthal is often asked why he does not forgive those who persecuted
Jews half a century ago. His stock answer is that although he has the
right to forgive for himself, he does not have the right to forgive on
behalf of others. [56] On the basis of this sophistical logic, though,
neither does he have the right to accuse and track down anyone in the
name of others. Wiesenthal has never confined his "hunt" to those who
victimized him personally.

'Driven by Hatred'
It is difficult to say just what drives this remarkable man. Is it a
craving for fame and praise? Or is he trying to live down a shameful
episode from his past?

Wiesenthal clearly enjoys the praise he receives. "He is a man of
considerable ego, proud of testimonials and honorary degrees," the Los
Angeles Times has reported. [57] Bruno Kreisky has given a simpler
explanation. He said that Wiesenthal is "driven by hatred." [58]

In light of his well-documented record of deceit, lies and
incompetence, the extravagant praise heaped upon this contemptible man
is a sorry reflection of the venal corruptibility and unprincipled
self-deception of our age.

Notes
Quoted in: M. Weber, "'Nazi Hunter' Caught Lying," The Spotlight
(Washington, DC), Oct. 26, 1981, p. 9.
Interrogation of S. Wiesenthal on May 27 and 28, 1948, conducted by
Curt Ponger of the Interrogation Branch of the Evidence Division of
the Office (U.S.) Chief of Counsel for War Crimes. Interrogation No.
2820. On file at the National Archives (Washington, DC), "Records of
the U.S. Nürnberg War Crimes Trials Interrogations, 1946-49," Record
Group 238, microfilm M-1019, roll 79, frames 460-469 and 470-476. Also
cited in: "New Documents Raise New Doubts About Simon Wiesenthal's War
Years," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1988-89 (Vol. 8, No.
4), pp. 489-503.
PCIRO (International Refugee Organization, Austria) "Application for
Assistance" filled out and signed by Wiesenthal. Dated Jan. 16,1949.
(This was a trial exhibit in the Walus court case. Photocopy in
author's possession.)
Simon Wiesenthal, The Murderers Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal
Memoirs. Edited by Joseph Wechsberg. (New York: McGraw Hill, 1967)
Interrogation of S. Wiesenthal, May 27, 1948, pp. 1-2.
The Murderers Among Us, p. 27.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 29-35. This account is not inconsistent
with his 1948 and 1949 statements; See also: Simon Wiesenthal, Justice
Not Vengeance (New York: Grove Weidenfeld: 1989), pp. 7-9.
Interrogation of May 27, 1948, p. 2. In a signed 1945 statement,
Wiesenthal wrote:
"... I escaped on October 18, 1943, from the Lemberg [Lvov] hard labor
camp where I was kept as a prisoner during my two years of labor at
the railroad works... and went into hiding until joining Jewish
partisans on November 21, 1943, who operated there. It was while
fighting in the partisan ranks against the Nazis that we managed to
collect and bury for safekeeping considerable amount of evidence...
When the partisans were dispersed by the Germans I fled to Lemberg on
February 10, 1944, and again went into hiding. On June 13, 1944, I was
found during a house to house search and was immediately sent to the
famous Lacki camp, near that city ..." Source: "Curriculum Vitae of
Ing. Wiesenthal, Szymon." SHAEF, Subject: War Crimes, July 6, 1945.
Records of USAEUR, War Crimes Branch, National Archives (Suitland,
Maryland), Records Group 338, Box 534, Folder 000-50-59. Wiesenthal's
alleged partisans activities are also recounted in Alan Levy, The
Wiesenthal File (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans, 1994), pp. 50-53.
Interrogation of May 28, 1948, pp. 1-2.
Interrogation of May 28, 1948, p. 5.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 35-37.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 37-38; Interrogation, May 27, 1948, p. 2,
and May 28, 1948, p. 5; A. Levy, The Wiesenthal File (1994), p. 54.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 39-44; Interrogation, May 27, 1948, pp.
2-3.
Interview with foreign journalists in Vienna, Nov. 10, 1975. Text
published in: "War Wiesenthal ein Gestapo-Kollaborateur?," Profil
(Vienna), No. 47, Nov. 18, 1975, pp. 16, 22-23; Reprinted in: Robert
H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), pp.
215-218, 222-223; Quoted in part in A. Levy, The Wiesenthal File
(1994), p. 349, and in, S. Wiesenthal, Justice Not Vengeance (New
York: 1989), pp. 7, 299. Kreisky was not alone in charging that
Wiesenthal had collaborated with the German Gestapo. Wim Van Leer,
columnist for the English-language daily Jerusalem Post, stated in May
1986 that a high-level police official in Vienna, citing confidential
police records, had told him during the early 1960s that these and
other charges against Wiesenthal were true. Source: J. Bushinsky,
"Nazi hunter sues over charges of links to Gestapo," Chicago
Sun-Times, Jan. 31, 1987.
Simon Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (Linz and Vienna: Ibis-Verlag, 1946).
Facsimile reprint in: Robert H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal:
Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), p. 64.
"Firing Squad," Life magazine, US edition, June 11, 1945, p. 50.
M. Weber and K. Stimely, "The Sleight-of-Hand of Simon Wiesenthal,"
The Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1984 (Vol. 5, No. 1), pp.
120-122; D. National-Zeitung (Munich), May 21, 1993, p. 3.
S. Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (1946). See also facsimile reprint in:
Robert H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982),
pp. 42, 46. This "confession" is a somewhat altered version of
Nuremberg document NO-1973; A new edition of Wiesenthal's 1946 book
has been published under the title Denn sie Wussten, was sie tun:
Zeichnungen und Aufzeichnungen aus dem KZ Mauthausen (Vienna: F.
Deuticke, 1995). I am grateful to Robert Faurisson for bringing this
to my attention. He points out in a July 1995 essay that Wiesenthal
has deleted from this new edition both the "death bed confession" of
Ziereis as well as his drawing of the three Mauthausen inmates.
According to the Encyclopaedia Judaica ("Mauthausen,", Vol. 11, p.
1138), a grand total of 206,000 persons were inmates of Mauthausen and
its satellite camps (including Hartheim) at one time or another.
S. Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (1946). Facsimile reprint in: R.
Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation, p. 47.
R. Faurisson, "The Gas Chambers: Truth or Lie?," The Journal of
Historical Review, Winter 1981, pp. 330, 361. See also: Hans
Fritzsche, The Sword in the Scales (London: 1953), p. 185; Gerald
Reitlinger, The Final Solution (London: Sphere, pb., 1971), p. 515; M.
Weber, "The Nuremberg Trials and the Holocaust," The Journal of
Historical Review, Summer 1992 (Vol. 12, No. 2), p. 182.
USA Today, April 21, 1983, p. 9A.
The Murderers Among Us, p. 44.
Evelyn Le Chene, Mauthausen: The History of a Death Camp (London:
1971), pp. 166-168 and 190-191.
"Mauthausen", Encyclopaedia Judaica (New York and Jerusalem: 1971),
vol. 11, p. 1138.
C. Moritz, ed., Current Biography 1975 (New York: H.W. Wilson, 1975),
p. 442; Wiesenthal interrogation of May 27, 1948, p. 3.
Mark Weber, "Jewish Soap," The Journal of Historical Review, Summer
1991 (Vol. 11, No. 2), pp. 217-227; See also: Robert Faurisson, "La
savon juif," Annales d'Histoire Revisionniste (Paris), No. 1,
Printemps 1987, pp. 153-159.
Der Neue Weg (Vienna), No. 17/18, 1946, pp. 4-5. Article entitled
"RIF" by "Ing. Wiesenth." (Simon Wiesenthal).
Der Neue Weg (Vienna), Nr. 19/20, 1946, pp. 14-15. Article entitled
"Seifenfabrik Belsetz" ("Belzec Soap Factory"), by "Ing. S.Wiesenth."
S. Wiesenthal, Sails of Hope (Macmillan, 1973).
Letters by Wiesenthal in Books and Bookmen (London), April 1975, p. 5,
and in Stars and Stripes (European edition), Jan. 24, 1993, p. 14.
Facsimile of Stars and Stripes letter in The Journal of Historical
Review, May-June 1993, p. 10; In 1986 Wiesenthal lied about his 1975
statement. In a letter dated May 12, 1986, to Prof. John George of
Central State University in Edmond, Oklahoma (copy in author's
possession), Wiesenthal wrote: "I have never stated that 'there were
no extermination camps on German soil.' This quote is false, I could
never have said such a thing."
For example, in a letter (dated Sept. 13, 1993), published in The New
York Times, Sept. 29, 1993, Wiesenthal boasted: "I succeeded in
putting a number of Nazis on trial who had perpetrated horrendous
crimes in the Nazi era, including Adolf Eichmann, Franz Stangl, Gustav
Wagner,..."
S. Birnbaum, "Wiesenthal's Claim on Eichmann Disputed by Former Mossad
Head," Jewish Telegraphic Agency Daily News Bulletin (New York), April
4, 1989. (Dispatch dated April 3).
J. Schachter, "Wiesenthal had no role in Eichmann capture," The
Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991. Facsimile reprint in Christian News, May
27, 1991, p. 19. See also: Ruth Sinai, "Wiesenthal's role in
Eichmann's capture disputed," Associated Press, The Orange County
Register, Feb. 25, 1990, p. A 26; L. Lagnado, "How Simon Wiesenthal
Helped a Secret Nazi," Forward (New York), Sept. 24, 1993, pp. 1, 3.
J. Schachter, The Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991 (cited above).
Facsimile in Christian News, May 27, 1991, p. 19.
Arnold Forster, Square One (New York: 1988), pp. 187-189. (Forster was
general counsel of the Anti-Defamation League, a major Zionist
organization.)
J. Goldberg, "Top Spy Says Wiesenthal Lied About His Exploits,"
Forward (New York), Nov. 12, 1993, pp. 1, 4; R. Sinai, "Wiesenthal's
role...," The Orange County Register, Feb. 25, 1990 (cited above).
Michael Arndt, "The Wrong Man," The Chicago Tribune Magazine, Dec. 2,
1984, pp. 15-35, esp. p. 23; Charles Ashman and Robert J. Wagman, The
Nazi Hunters (New York: Pharos Books, 1988), pp. 193-195.
"The Nazi Who Never Was," The Washington Post, May 10, 1981, pp. B5,
B8.
"The Persecution of Frank Walus," Reader (Chicago), Jan. 23, 1981, pp.
19, 30. After Wiesenthal was ultimately proven wrong in a similar case
in Canada, the Toronto Sun newspaper commented in an editorial: "It
seems that material provided by professional Nazi hunter Simon
Wiesenthal is wrong, but repeated anyway [in the media]." (Quoted by
M. Weber in The Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1984, pp.
120-122.)
Gerald L. Posner and John Ware, Mengele: The Complete Story (New York:
Dell, 1987), pp. 220-221; Gerald Astor, The 'Last' Nazi: The Life and
Times of Dr. Joseph Mengele (Toronto: Paperjacks, 1986), p. 202.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele: The Complete Story (cited above), p.
220.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 179-180; G. Astor,
The 'Last' Nazi (cited above), pp. 178-180.
Time magazine, Sept. 26, 1977, pp. 36-38. Cited in: G. Posner and J.
Ware, Mengele (cited above), p. 219.
"Hunting the 'Angel of Death'," Newsweek, May 20, 1985, pp. 36-38. See
also: M. Weber, "Lessons of the Mengele Affair," Journal of Historical
Review, Fall 1985 (Vol. 6, No. 3), p. 382. On Wiesenthal's distortion
of truth in the Mermelstein-IHR case, see: M. Weber, "Declaration,"
Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1982 (Vol. 3, No. 1), pp. 42-43;
M. Weber, "Albert Speer and the 'Holocaust,"' Journal of Historical
Review, Winter 1984 (Vol. 5, Nos. 2-4), p. 439.
Midstream, Dec. 1983, p. 24. Quoted in: G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele
(cited above), p. 219; Los Angeles Times, Nov. 15, 1985, p. 2.
J. Schachter, "Wiesenthal had no role in Eichmann capture," The
Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991. Facsimile reprint in Christian News, May
27, 1991, p. 19.
Tom Bower in The Times (London), June 14, 1985, p. 14. Quoted in: G.
Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 222-223.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 222-223.
Betrayal, by Eli M. Rosenbaum, with William Hoffer. Published in 1993
by St. Martin's Press (New York). Reviewed by Jacob Heilbrunn in The
New York Times Book Review, Oct. 10, 1993, p. 9.
Quoted in L. Lagnado, "How Simon Wiesenthal...," Forward (New York),
Sept. 24, 1993, p. 3.
The New York Times Book Review, Oct. 10, 1993, p. 9; Forward (New
York), Sept. 24, 1993, p. 3.
"Was hat Wiesenthal zu verbergen?," D. National-Zeitung (Munich), Nov.
11, 1988, p. 4.
David Sinai, "News We Doubt You've Seen," The Jewish Press (Brooklyn,
NY), Dec. 23, 1988. Based on report in the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz,
Dec. 16, 1988.
"A Message from Simon Wiesenthal," Response: The Wiesenthal Center
World Report, Winter 1992, p. 11.
Charles Ashman and Robert J. Wagman, The Nazi Hunters (New York:
Pharos Books, 1988), p. 286; A. Popkin, "Nazi-Hunter Simon Wiesenthal:
'Information is Our Best Defense'," Washington Jewish Week, Oct. 29,
1987, p. 2.
Quoted in: M. Weber, The Spotlight, Oct. 26, 1981, p. 9.
Quoted in D. National-Zeitung (Munich), July 8, 1988, p. 7, and in, R.
Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), p. 199.
#2009
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4), pages 8-16. This is a revised and updated version of an article
that first appeared in the Winter 1989-90 issue of The Journal of
Historical Review.
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studied history at the University of Illinois (Chicago), the
University of Munich, Portland State University and Indiana University
(M.A., 1977). For nine years he served as editor of the IHR's Journal
of Historical Review.
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We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
And here is my address as promised, so call or visit:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 

or to KenMcVay@nizkor.org.

Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.


From Art@Arthurian.com Thu Apr 24 14:45:49 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.russian,soc.culture.ukrainian
Subject: Some Teachings of  ZYD Talmud - ZYDs may lie, cheat, and steal, from Goyim
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Some Teachings of  ZYD Talmud - Christkiller ZYDs may lie, cheat, 
and steal, from Goyim

>On 18 Aug 2006 07:13:30 -0700, in uk.politics.misc "Jason P"
> wrote:

>Some Teachings of the  ZYD Talmud

>Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite
>there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an
>Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

>Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no
>death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

>Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a
>Gentile.

>Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
And here is my address as promised, so call or visit:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 

or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@nizkor.org.

Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.


From Art@Arthurian.com Thu Apr 24 14:47:48 EDT 2008
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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.palestine,alt.homosexuality
Subject: Frank Arthur=alias Grosvenor=Gay Ken McVay - Invites Calls & Visits
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Yes for sooth , I am indeed  Frank Arthur - sometimes alias Grosvenor -  
also alias Gay Ken McVay, and even alias Yitzhak Goldstein.

I am  the filthy  fraud  who changes names every few minutes,
because I am truly certifiably insane.

I am so insane I claim that all my critics are a "grosvenor"!
Now, I even claim that some of the "grosvenors" are now "mirelles"

Frank Arthur  [me]  sometimes I post using  Bellsouth Internet Group, 
except when I post using remailers, anonymously,  to  confuse people.

I am the fraud Grosvenor  [again me] and I often use anonymous remailers.
Sometimes as Grosvenor , or Frank Arthur, or Ken McVay, or Yitzhak Goldstein.
I often post to alt.homosexual - just to satisfy my need!

The genuine Grosvenor has not posted for years, so I stole his name to 
annoy him, and also readers!

Many people believe that I am really  gay Ken McVay the disgusting 
pervert fag from Nanaimo Canada doing all the posting, now that my
ZYD  benefactors  stopped financing all the BS and my one person 
web business.

All entries below collated from various sources and are
public domain.

And here is my address as promised, so call or visit, days or nights:
FRANK H ARTHUR 
378 MCDONOUGH BLVD SE 
ATLANTA, GA 30315 
(770) 739-6508 


On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:43 GMT, Venceremos2
 wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
changes names every 5 minutes.
Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvenor ,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud
There is no real person named Grosvomit, just me.

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>Trust that idiot?

>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
>you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.

The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
tab:

Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.



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Yet another Montreal Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now
Charge & Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B'nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY, 
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS 
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge  tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING 
TAX FRAUD  involving the collusion of senior management at B'nai Brith, 
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is 
now a major cause of  B'Nai Brith Canada  Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried 
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week 
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB 
AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members 
are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn't the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

"Everything was manipulated."

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don't know."


No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, 
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing 
problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing 
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past 
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the 
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as 
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS 
TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing  B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn 
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!


Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND 
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING 
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?


JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
  Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.


BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN 
SOPHISTICATED  TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH 
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. ...

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."


[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
"NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
"Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en


Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com


B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL 
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE 
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT 
GO UNPUNISHED.


JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? 
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.

>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn't you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. members 
>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada  
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter     
Thursday, 06 December 2007  
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86


In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.
 
  
>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>"Everything was manipulated."

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don't know."

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR - www.ihr.org

>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.


From: Caduceus@eris.io.com
Date: Sat,  5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of
B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
"BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith
International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and
the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
 Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a
"breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's
been talk about it," he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said
they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still
does good work," he said.

What he is after is reform.

"I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to
get some accountability and transparency."

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

"We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization," he said.

Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been
debunked."

"This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community," he said.

Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed."

Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small."

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way
they remembered.

"My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community," he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a
travesty of justice."

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization.

"I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone."

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

     Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
 Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
 Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com>


Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for 
payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
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Yet another Montreal Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now
Charge & Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B'nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY, 
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS 
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge  tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING 
TAX FRAUD  involving the collusion of senior management at B'nai Brith, 
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is 
now a major cause of  B'Nai Brith Canada  Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried 
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week 
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB 
AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members 
are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn't the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

"Everything was manipulated."

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don't know."


No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, 
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing 
problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing 
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past 
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the 
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as 
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS 
TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing  B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn 
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!


Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND 
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING 
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?


JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
  Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.


BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN 
SOPHISTICATED  TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH 
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. ...

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."


[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
"NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
"Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en


Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com


B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL 
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE 
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT 
GO UNPUNISHED.


JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? 
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.

>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn't you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. members 
>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada  
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter     
Thursday, 06 December 2007  
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86


In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.
 
  
>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>"Everything was manipulated."

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don't know."

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR - www.ihr.org

>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.


From: Caduceus@eris.io.com
Date: Sat,  5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of
B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
"BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith
International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and
the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
 Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a
"breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's
been talk about it," he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said
they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still
does good work," he said.

What he is after is reform.

"I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to
get some accountability and transparency."

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

"We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization," he said.

Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been
debunked."

"This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community," he said.

Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed."

Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small."

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way
they remembered.

"My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community," he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a
travesty of justice."

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization.

"I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone."

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

     Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
 Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
 Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com>


Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for 
payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
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Yet another Montreal Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now
Charge & Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B'nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY, 
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS 
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge  tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING 
TAX FRAUD  involving the collusion of senior management at B'nai Brith, 
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is 
now a major cause of  B'Nai Brith Canada  Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried 
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week 
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB 
AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members 
are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn't the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

"Everything was manipulated."

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don't know."


No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, 
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing 
problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing 
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past 
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the 
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as 
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS 
TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing  B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn 
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!


Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND 
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING 
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?


JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
  Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.


BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN 
SOPHISTICATED  TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH 
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. ...

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."


[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
"NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
"Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en


Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com


B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL 
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE 
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT 
GO UNPUNISHED.


JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? 
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
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or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
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>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn't you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. members 
>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada  
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter     
Thursday, 06 December 2007  
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86


In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.
 
  
>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>"Everything was manipulated."

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don't know."

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR - www.ihr.org

>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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From: Caduceus@eris.io.com
Date: Sat,  5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of
B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
"BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith
International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and
the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
 Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a
"breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's
been talk about it," he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said
they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still
does good work," he said.

What he is after is reform.

"I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to
get some accountability and transparency."

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

"We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization," he said.

Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been
debunked."

"This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community," he said.

Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed."

Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small."

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way
they remembered.

"My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community," he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a
travesty of justice."

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization.

"I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone."

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

     Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
 Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
 Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com>


Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for 
payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
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homosexuals and the like.




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On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:42:14 GMT, 20April <20April@xmail.com> wrote:

>Yet another Montreal Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now
>Charge & Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

>Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
>35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

>Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
>Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
>A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

>According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
>charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
>in 2005.

>In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
>registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

>This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
>that time.
>This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
>fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
>the nursery school.

>Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
>be only a matter of days before B'nai Brith will also get convicted, in
>connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY, 
>THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS 
>for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

>Ken McVay and his huge  tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING 
>TAX FRAUD  involving the collusion of senior management at B'nai Brith, 
>is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is 
>now a major cause of  B'Nai Brith Canada  Breaking Up!!

>No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!
>
>McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried 
>in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week 
>after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !
>
>Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
>BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's
>CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB 
>AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!!
>
>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members 
>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, isn't the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>"Everything was manipulated."

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don't know."


>No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

>Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, 
>there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing 
>problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

>On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing 
>managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past 
>presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the 
>mismanagement and financial irregularities.

>Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
>so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as 
>ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS 
>TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!!

>McVay TAX FRAUD Causing  B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
>Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
>Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
>The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

>On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
> wrote:
>On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn 
>wrote:

>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!


>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.
>
>JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND 
>A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING 
>AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?
>
>
>JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
>http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
>  Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
>Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
>Tax Fraud
>
>A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
>a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
>United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
>fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
>claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
>international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
>tax returns.
>
>
>BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN 
>SOPHISTICATED  TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH 
>NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.
>
>Canadian Jewish News
>Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
>By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
>Thursday, 06 December 2007
>
>TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
>allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
>power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
>Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
>addressed the issue.
>
>At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
>raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
>BBC's head office in Toronto. ...
>
>Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
>20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
>presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
>been taking.
>
>A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
>said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
>statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
>slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
>"Everything was manipulated," he said.
>
>"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
>that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."
>
>
>[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
>in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
>charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
>http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
>"NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
>Message-ID: 
>http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
>"Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
>Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]
>
>http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86
>
>http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq
>
>http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
>index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
>Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
>=us&lr=lang_en
>
>
>Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
>http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
>"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
>Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
>Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
>"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
>Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com
>
>
>B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL 
>BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE 
>PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
>ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT 
>GO UNPUNISHED.
>
>
>JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
>NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? 
>IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?

>>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

>So stupid why didn't you show the url?
>The entire original article is below, cretin.

>>No wonder honest jews are incensed!

>>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>>up a new jew charity group.

>>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. members 
>>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?


>>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

>Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada  
>By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter     
>Thursday, 06 December 2007  

>TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
>allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
>power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
>Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
>addressed the issue.
>
>At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
>raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
>BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
>been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
>the ex-officials said.

>At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
>B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
>“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
>the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
>governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
>respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
>community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
>past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
>administrative board.

>The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
>the Forward.

>BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
>anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
>Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
>have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
>corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
>International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
>organization.

>In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
>chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
>power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
>the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
>decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
>transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
>constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
>statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

>Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
>20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
>presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
>been taking.

>A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
>said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
>statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
>slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

>“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

>“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
>that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

>Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
>if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
>“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
>been talk about it,” he said.
>
>Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
>they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
>representative and transparent organization.

>Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
>headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
>activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

>He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
>does good work,” he said.

>What he is after is reform.

>“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
>get some accountability and transparency.”

>Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
>been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
>presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
>organizational governance.

>“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
>community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
>and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
>democratically run organization,” he said.

>Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
>and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
>debunked.”

>“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
>without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
>Jewish community,” he said.

>Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
>rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
>organizations.

>In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
>designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
>president Gerry Weinstein.

>BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
>appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
>documentation.

>The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
>arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
>of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
>the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
>of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
>of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
>irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
>made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
>Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

>Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
>members, a handful, very small.”

>He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
>conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
>newspaper.

>As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
>think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
>to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
>they remembered.

>“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
>profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
>Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
>to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
>the Jewish community,” he said.

>For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
>travesty of justice.”

>He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
>cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

>“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
>fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

>http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

>In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
>documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
>the Jewish faith is backing him.

>>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>>"Everything was manipulated."

>>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>>How is that money used?
>>Where does it go?
>>We don't know."

>>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>>executives of BB are very concerned.


>>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>>for JEW-WATCH:
>>http://www.jewwatch.com

>>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
>>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>>Or, other useful websites include:
>>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>IHR - www.ihr.org
>>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
>>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


>From: Caduceus@eris.io.com
>Date: Sat,  5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

>Canadian Jewish News
>Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
>By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
>Thursday, 06 December 2007

>TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
>allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
>power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
>Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
>addressed the issue.
>
>At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
>raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
>BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
>been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
>the ex-officials said.
>
>At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of
>B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
>"BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
>the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate
>governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
>respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
>community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
>past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national
>administrative board.
>
>The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
>the Forward.
>
>BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
>anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank
>Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
>have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's
>corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith
>International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent
>organization.
>
>In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
>chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
>power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and
>the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of
>decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
>transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's
>constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
>statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).
>
>Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
>20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
>presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
>been taking.
>
>A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
>said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
>statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
>slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
>
>"Everything was manipulated," he said.
>
>"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
>that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."
>
>[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
>in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
>charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
>http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
> "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
> Message-ID: 
>http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
> "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
> Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]
>
>Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
>if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a
>"breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's
>been talk about it," he said.
>
>Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said
>they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
>representative and transparent organization.
>
>Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at
>headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
>activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added.
>
>He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still
>does good work," he said.
>
>What he is after is reform.
>
>"I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to
>get some accountability and transparency."
>
>Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
>been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
>presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
>organizational governance.
>
>"We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
>community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on
>and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
>democratically run organization," he said.
>
>Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms
>and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been
>debunked."
>
>"This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
>without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
>Jewish community," he said.
>
>Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
>rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
>organizations.
>
>In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
>designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
>president Gerry Weinstein.
>
>BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
>appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
>documentation.
>
>The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
>arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
>of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
>the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
>of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
>of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No
>irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been
>made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
>Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed."
>
>Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled
>members, a handful, very small."
>
>He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
>conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune
>newspaper.
>
>As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to
>think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
>to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way
>they remembered.
>
>"My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
>profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
>Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
>to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
>the Jewish community," he said.
>
>For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a
>travesty of justice."
>
>He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
>cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization.
>
>"I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
>fed up. The lodges will be gone."
>
>http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86
>
>http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq
>
>http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
>index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
>+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en
>
>     Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
>
>http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
>"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
>Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
> Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
>"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
> Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com>


>Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
>TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for 
>payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!!


>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


>Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com, 
>or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
>or KenMcVay@vex.net

>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
>homosexuals and the like.




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Yet another Montreal Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now
Charge & Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

When even jew news media must give a half page with banner headline to the
story, that will indicate how serious the story is.

Even honest jews do not like to have their crooked brethren bringing further
disrepute upon them.

What will the executives presently mismanaging B'Nai Brith do now, in
connection with their ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN McVay?

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B'nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY, 
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS 
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge  tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING 
TAX FRAUD  involving the collusion of senior management at B'nai Brith, 
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is 
now a major cause of  B'Nai Brith Canada  Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried 
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week 
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB 
AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members 
are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn't the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

"Everything was manipulated."

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don't know."


No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, 
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing 
problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing 
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past 
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the 
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as 
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS 
TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing  B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn 
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!


Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND 
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING 
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?


JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
  Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.


BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN 
SOPHISTICATED  TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH 
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. ...

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."


[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
"NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
"Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en


Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com


B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL 
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE 
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT 
GO UNPUNISHED.


JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? 
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.

>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn't you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. members 
>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada  
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter     
Thursday, 06 December 2007  
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86


In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.
 
  
>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>"Everything was manipulated."

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don't know."

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR - www.ihr.org

>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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From: Caduceus@eris.io.com
Date: Sat,  5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of
B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
"BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith
International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and
the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
 Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a
"breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's
been talk about it," he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said
they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still
does good work," he said.

What he is after is reform.

"I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to
get some accountability and transparency."

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

"We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization," he said.

Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been
debunked."

"This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community," he said.

Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed."

Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small."

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way
they remembered.

"My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community," he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a
travesty of justice."

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization.

"I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone."

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

     Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
 Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
 Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com>


Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for 
payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Yet another Montreal Synagogue Convicted for massive TAX FRAUD- Will CRA Now
Charge & Convict McVay & BB For Similar TAX FRAUD?

Canadian Jew News have a banner headline story covering half a page, on page
35 of the issue for April 10 2008.

When even jew news media must give a half page with banner headline to the
story, that will indicate how serious the story is.

Even honest jews do not like to have their crooked brethren bringing further
disrepute upon them.

What will the executives presently mismanaging B'NAI  BRITH  do now, in
connection with their ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN McVay?

Canada Revenue Agency [CRA] convicted the Montreal synagogue Congregation
Adath Israel Poale Zedek Anshei Ozeroff, and they were also fined almost HALF
A MILLION DOLLARS FOR TAX FRAUD!!

According to documents made public by CRA, the synagogue had issued fraudulent
charitable donation receipts worth almost $400,000 in the fiscal year ending
in 2005.

In addition to the huge fine, the synagogue has now also lost status as a
registered charity, and can no longer issue charitable donation receipts.

This synagogue had been previously audited in 2002, and had been warned at
that time.
This synagogue had been giving false charitable donation receipts for
fraudulent items such as membership fees, cemetery plots and the services of
the nursery school.

Now that CRA have finally got some balls in prosecuting for TAX FRAUD, it will
be only a matter of days before B'nai Brith will also get convicted, in
connection with their MONEY LAUNDERING FOR KEN MCVAY, 
THEIR ISSUING OF FRAUDULENT CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS 
for payments to Ken McVays BUSINESS!!

Ken McVay and his huge  tax swindle, CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING 
TAX FRAUD  involving the collusion of senior management at B'nai Brith, 
is now being exposed by Canadian Jew News, week after week, and is 
now a major cause of  B'Nai Brith Canada  Breaking Up!!

No wonder CRA & IRS are also very interested!

McVay can not call all the news stories false, since they are carried 
in the leading jew newspaper in Canada, Canadian Jew News, week 
after week with more and more prominent jews in BB demanding details !

Rumor is that CJN is now investigating further, with CRA, IRS,
BB executives, as well as RCMP and FBI regarding McVay's
CRIMINAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH COLLUSION OF BB 
AND ALSO MAZAL'S SAAF!!

It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
up a new jew charity group.

Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. Members 
are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

For example, isn't the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay ILLEGAL?

Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

"Everything was manipulated."

We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
How is that money used?
Where does it go?
We don't know."


No wonder Ken McVay does not want this publicised!

Now, in the issue of Canadian Jew News for January 17 2008, 
there is a 2 page banner headline story about the ongoing 
problems at B'nai Brith Canada caused by this scandal.

On pages 6 and 17 of this issue, is a huge article about the existing 
managers of BB wanting to remove as members the dissident past 
presidents and long time members, who have been questioning the 
mismanagement and financial irregularities.

Many of the past executives now want the whole mess to go to Court,
so that the public will get proof of the irregularities, such as 
ILLEGAL CHARITABLE DONATION RECEIPTS FOR PAYMENTS 
TO McVAY'S BUSINESS!!

McVay TAX FRAUD Causing  B'Nai Brith Canada to Break Up!!
Also, it is stimulating Canadian & USA Tax FRAUD Investigations!
Full text of article follows at bottom of comments.
The article is from the JEW newspaper, so it must be true!

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0800, in can.politics Greg Carr
 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:35:11 -0700, SteveHorn 
wrote:

Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE,even if it does expose crooks!!


Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
executives of BB are very concerned.

JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND 
A NON-EXEMPT NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING 
AND KICKBACK SCAM? IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?


JEWS ARE INDICTED FOR TAX FRAUD IN AMERICA:
http://www.pgdc.com/usa/item/?itemID=932870
  Thursday, January 10, 2008 Posted: 1:42 AM EST
Religious Leader and Others Indicted on Charitable Contribution Scheme; Other
Tax Fraud

A federal grand jury has handed down a 37-count indictment against the head of
a religious organization and related parties for conspiracy to defraud the
United States and agencies thereof. The numerous allegations include a
fraudulent charitable contribution and kickback scheme that resulted in
claimed deductions of up to 20 times the amount actually contributed,
international money laundering, mail and wire fraud, and filing false income
tax returns.


BROOKLYN RABBI AND SEVERAL ASSOCIATES CHARGED IN 
SOPHISTICATED  TAX FRAUD AND MONEY LAUNDERING SCHEME
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
THE ABOVE CON-GAME MIRRORS WHAT B'NAI BRITH DOES WITH 
NIZKOR.ORG RUN BY CONFIDENCE MAN KENNETH NEAL MCVAY.

Canadian Jewish News
Battle brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. ...

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.
"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."


[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
"NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
"Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26
Itemid%3D86+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl
=us&lr=lang_en


Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
Message-ID: 97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com


B'NAI BRITH, SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION AND NIZKOR.ORG SHOULD ALL 
BE SHUT DOWN AND THE PERPETRATORS IN EACH INSTITUTION MUST BE 
PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW. THEIR TAX EVASIONS SCHEMES
ARE CRIMES AGAINST THE WORKING PEOPLE; CRIMES WHICH SHOULD NOT 
GO UNPUNISHED.


JEWS ONCE AGAIN ABUSING THEIR TAX EXEMPT STATUS TO FUND A NON-EXEMPT
NIZKOR.ORG IN ELABORATE MONEY LAUNDERING AND KICKBACK SCAM? 
IRS & CRA WHERE ARE YOU?



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur - Art@Arthurian.com,
or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex,
homosexuals and the like.

>Canadian Jew News had  a huge banner headline story, over 2 pages,
>[pages 12 & 28] in the issue of December 6 2007 regarding a major 
>scandal involving the current BB Canada  managers.

>Since this is a ZYD newspaper, it can not be called anti-semitic.
>Published for jews, it MUST be TRUE!!

So stupid why didn't you show the url?
The entire original article is below, cretin.

>No wonder honest jews are incenced!

>It seems that large group of past presidents, and BB lodge presidents,
>are even considering breaking away from the present BB and setting 
>up a new jew charity group.

>Apparently the present gang running BB have refused to provide 
>audited  financial statements before the AGM, as required. members 
>are concerned about  what is happening to all the funds collected.

>For example, is the money being LAUNDERED for the BUSINESS 
>RUN BY Shabbas-Goy Ken McVay LEGAL?

Ken McVay uber alles.

>Henry Gimpel a former regional BB Chair, said that a core
>group of 15-20 former BB executives,are extremely concerned.

Battle brewing at B’nai Brith Canada  
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter     
Thursday, 06 December 2007  
TORONTO — A nasty battle is brewing at B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization’s head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members – despite a decision of B’nai
Brith International’s (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B’nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC’s head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves “concerned members of
B’nai Brith Canada” have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
“BBC news without the spin.” Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group’s goal is to “end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community.” The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC’s board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group’s concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC’s head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization’s corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC’s executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization’s
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B’nai Brith
International’s (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC’s parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization’s head office in Toronto and
the service group’s 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization’s
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that “problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements” in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

“Everything was manipulated,” he said.

“We want accountability. We are raising funds for B’nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don’t know.”

Gimpel suggested B’nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive – perhaps even a
“breakaway” by some. “They’re getting more and more fed up. There’s
been talk about it,” he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl – both BBC past presidents – said
they want to see B’nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don’t know or don’t care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don’t realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC “still
does good work,” he said.

What he is after is reform.

“I’m not trying to destroy the organization,” he said. “I’m trying to
get some accountability and transparency.”

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

“We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B’nai Brith to realize what’s going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization,” he said.

Dimant stated that BBI’s appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that “all the accusations have been
debunked.”

“This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community,” he said.

Dimant said B’nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: “Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B’nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body’s full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B’nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed.”

Dimant said despite the court’s finding, “you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small.”

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC’s Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, “we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn’t happen the way
they remembered.

“My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community,” he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it “a
travesty of justice.”

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC’s membership might eventually leave the organization.

“I give B’nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up… The lodges will be gone.”

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86


In other words at worst only 20% will leave. Jews argue it is well
documented in the Bible. One person has a complaint and no one else of
the Jewish faith is backing him.
 
  
>Gimpel has stated that"problems really started when we stopped 
>getting financial statements in advance of the AGMs"

>"Everything was manipulated."

>We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith.
>How is that money used?
>Where does it go?
>We don't know."

>Since Ken McVay has been outed as being involved in
>ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for
>fraudulent tax charity receipts from Bb, no wonder
>executives of BB are very concerned.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
>for JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
>no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
>Christkiller ZHIDS!!

The Romans killed the LORD not Jews. You Nazis don't even tithe.
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org

Does he still clean the toilets of Turks?
>IHR - www.ihr.org

>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org

Under constant FBI surveillance and the SCPL as well.
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
or KenMcVay@vex.net
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From: Caduceus@eris.io.com
Date: Sat,  5 Jan 2008 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC)

Canadian Jewish News
Battle Brewing at B'nai Brith Canada
By PAUL LUNGEN, Staff Reporter
Thursday, 06 December 2007

TORONTO - A nasty battle is brewing at B'nai Brith Canada (BBC) over
allegations the organization's head office has centralized too much
power and is unaccountable to members - despite a decision of B'nai
Brith International's (BBI) court of appeal that appears to have
addressed the issue.

At least three former senior officials of B'nai Brith Canada are
raising concerns over a lack of accountability and transparency at
BBC's head office in Toronto. Dissatisfaction is so great there has
been talk of breaking away to form a new service organization, one of
the ex-officials said.

At the same time, a group calling themselves "concerned members of
B'nai Brith Canada" have launched a newsletter purporting to offer
"BBC news without the spin." Its May 10, 2007, inaugural issue states
the group's goal is to "end the current dysfunctional corporate
governance at BBC and restore it to its once prominent position as a
respected and admired organization both inside and outside the Jewish
community." The group claims to represent lodge past presidents, BBC
past presidents, members of BBC's board of governors and national
administrative board.

The group's concerns were first reported in the New York-based paper
the Forward.

BBC's head office, meanwhile, rejects outright any suggestion there is
anything amiss in the organization's corporate governance. Frank
Dimant, BBC's executive vice-president, said all institutional changes
have been passed lawfully and complaints regarding the organization's
corporate structure have been definitively rejected by B'nai Brith
International's (BBI) highest appeal court. BBI is BBC's parent
organization.

In interviews with The CJN, two former national presidents and a past
chair of the Toronto regional co-ordinating committee said too much
power is concentrated at the organization's head office in Toronto and
the service group's 4,000 members are being shut out of
decision-making. They called for greater corporate accountability and
transparency, particularly strict adherence to the organization's
constitution, which requires the presentation of audited financial
statements prior to the annual general meeting  (AGM).

Henry Gimpel, the onetime regional chair, said a core group of 15 to
20 people, four of them past presidents of BBC, others onetime lodge
presidents, are concerned about the direction the organization has
been taking.

A native of South Africa who immigrated to Canada 20 years ago, Gimpel
said that "problems really started when we stopped getting financial
statements" in advance of the AGMs about seven years ago and when
slates of officers began being chosen by acclamation.

"Everything was manipulated," he said.

"We want accountability. We are raising funds for B'nai Brith. How is
that money used? Where does it go? We don't know."

[Since Ken McVay [The Nizkor Project] has been outed as being involved
in ILLEGAL MONEY LAUNDERING WITH BB, and responsible for fraudulent tax
charity receipts from BB, no wonder executives of BB are very concerned.
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
 "NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Funding Kick Backs and Tax Scam"
 Message-ID: 
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
 "Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?"
 Message-ID: <6vttb1hmmg9m76457msmetlim0g1k5ib1f@4ax.com> ]

Gimpel suggested B'nai Brith might face a serious revolt of the lodges
if the organization is not more responsive - perhaps even a
"breakaway" by some. "They're getting more and more fed up. There's
been talk about it," he said.

Morley Wolfe and Harvey Crestohl - both BBC past presidents - said
they want to see B'nai Brith revert to a more democratic,
representative and transparent organization.

Most BBC members don't know or don't care about the goings-on at
headquarters, Wolfe said. They are content to participate in lodge
activities and don't realize the organization has changed, he added.

He discounted suggestions that lodges might break away. BBC "still
does good work," he said.

What he is after is reform.

"I'm not trying to destroy the organization," he said. "I'm trying to
get some accountability and transparency."

Crestohl, who served as BBC president in the late 1970s and who has
been a lodge member for 51 years, said he and the other past
presidents would like to see more BBC members get involved in
organizational governance.

"We need a grassroots movement. We also need some leaders in the
community who give support to B'nai Brith to realize what's going on
and exert their influence on those running things to revert to being a
democratically run organization," he said.

Dimant stated that BBI's appeals court considered all the criticisms
and on July 20, 2007, ruled that "all the accusations have been
debunked."

"This kind of guerrilla war is baseless and has been judged to be
without merit, without basis and can only be harmful to the total
Jewish community," he said.

Dimant said B'nai Brith Canada has adopted a new constitution and
rules of governance similar to those employed by many other Jewish
organizations.

In particular, its constitution mirrors that of BBI. The change was
designed to strengthen its governance practices, stated BBC national
president Gerry Weinstein.

BBC provided The CJN with a one-paragraph statement quoting the BBI
appeals court judgment, but it did not provide any supporting
documentation.

The court ruled: "Having carefully reviewed all the pleadings,
arguments and documentation put forward by the parties, the justices
of this honourable court do unanimously find that there is no basis to
the complaints on which the appellants rely. The amended constitution
of B'nai Brith Canada was duly passed at a legally constituted meeting
of the organization within its governing body's full jurisdiction. No
irregularity in the procedures followed by B'nai Brith Canada has been
made out that would invoke the jurisdiction of this court.
Accordingly, the appeal is hereby dismissed."

Dimant said despite the court's finding, "you have some disgruntled
members, a handful, very small."

He said some have ties to The CJN and can be said to have a personal
conflict of interest in seeking to undermine BBC's Jewish Tribune
newspaper.

As for the others, "we are talking about some individuals who like to
think history was different at one point. I think lots of people want
to recapture youth and reflect on things that didn't happen the way
they remembered.

"My concern is that BBC is a leading Jewish organization, high
profile, which has great government relations. Our League [for Human
Rights] is doing a superb job to battle anti-Semitism. It would seem
to me the energies of these people should be directed forward to help
the Jewish community," he said.

For his part, Gimpel rejects the BBI court decision, calling it "a
travesty of justice."

He speculated that three, perhaps four lodges accounting for 25 per
cent of BBC's membership might eventually leave the organization.

"I give B'nai Brith two years if this carries on. Members are getting
fed up. The lodges will be gone."

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13693&Itemid=86

http://tinyurl.com/3ceybq

http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:XWq_EgV_AFYJ:www.cjnews.com/
index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D13693%26Itemid%3D86
+%22Battle+brewing+at+B%27nai+Brith+Canada%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&lr=lang_en

     Kenneth McVay's American money laundering operation exposed;

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/7e8cbfce5f14ee8c?fwc=1
"The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San Antonio
Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)"
 Message-ID: <1o9ch2pv1bc148161ihkt26ngjteacj4p8@4ax.com>
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/e0028c076ac46510?fwc=1
"Kenneth N McVay is a Goy Mamzer Totally Owned by Jewry"
 Message-ID: <97ba28fa14b592c4ca0079950858babe@remailer.metacolo.com>


Even the past executives of BB did not know about the FRAUD INVOLVING PAYMENTS
TO KEN McVAY, and the issuing of fraudulent charitable donation receipts for 
payments to McVay's one man BUSINESS!!


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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or to Steve Horn - kcom@breakthru.com,
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