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ADL ZYDS Dislike Methodists' for Divesting From israel

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:24:43 -0600 (MDT), in soc.culture.europe FrankArthur
 wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:32:23 GMT, in soc.culture.jewish "torresdD"
 wrote:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3418316,00.html
Methodists 'bordering anti-Semitism'

ADL Director slams American Christian group for Israel
divestment call

Yaakov Lappin Published:
06.27.07, 16:37 / Israel Jewish Scene

The United Methodist Church's call to divest from companies linked to
Israel "is bordering on anti-Semitism,"

Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman told Ynetnews
on Wednesday.

Foxman furiously condemned recommendations made by the
New England branch of the Methodist Church for its members to divest
"from twenty companies identified as supporting the Israeli occupation
in Palestine."

The recommendations were made by a "task force" of clergy and church
members set up to implement a "resolution to end the Israeli occupation,"
a statement by the Church added.

Foxman, who is currently in Israel, said it was "sad that a religious
institution whose job should be to reconcile continues to be biased
and bigoted."

He added that in the past two years, "there has been a war perpetrated by
Hizbullah, katyushas rockets, and terrorist acts.

Now Hamas, that does not recognize Israel's right to exist and perpetrated
violence, has gotten itself elected, and is in control of a million and a half
Palestinians.

And the Methodists are still there to teach Israel a lesson."

"My reaction is one of outrage to this biased decision,
which borders on anti-Semitism.

The facts show that any decent fair-minded, spiritual, godly person would not
come to a conclusion to boycott the victim, the one that has been praying for
peace, suing for peace, hoping for peace.

To make Israel the target is just outrageous," Foxman added.

In the Church's statement, William P. Aldrich, chairperson
of the 'Divestment Task Force,' was quoted as saying:
"Selective divestment is consistent with the United Methodist commitment
to a just and sustainable peace for all the people of the Middle East."

He added that the divestment campaign
"offers a tangible way of working toward this goal."

In its press release, the Church said it knew its actions would not have an
impact on Israel's economy, adding that "this is not the goal."

"The goal is to make all United Methodists and other Americans aware of their
relationship to companies that benefit from the Israeli occupation," the
statement added.

"The urgency of the humanitarian crisis in the occupied Palestinian
territories cannot be overstated," the United Methodist Church
declared on its website.

Church ackowledges bias

In a separate development, the ADL has welcomed the United
Church of Christ's (UCC) acknowledgment that it has advocated
an unbalanced and one-sided policy against the state of Israel.

The UCC passed a new resolution this week calling for a more
balanced approach to the Middle East conflict.

"We are heartened that members of the United Church of Christ
have come to recognize that Israel deserves a fair hearing and
that some of their policy declarations in the past were based
on unfair and biased assumptions," Foxman said.

"It is a welcome development, and the start of a healthy process
toward a better understanding of a very complex and complicated
history," he added.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:18:40 GMT, "Chom Noamsky"  wrote:
Just another "friendly fire" death from the doped-up yanks, on their so-called
allies!!

How many more corpses will it take for Harpo to withdraw all the stupid
canucks?

>This is what American troops mean when they say "I got your back":

>----------------------------------

>Globe and Mail
>July 3, 2007 at 2:54 AM EDT
>
>Canadian soldier Robert Costall was shot to death from behind in Afghanistan 
>last year by American troops, who opened machine-gun fire on him and then 
>another friendly position during an insurgent attack, a newly released U.S. 
>army report says.

>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070703.wfriendly03/BNStory/National 




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ADL ZYDS Dislike Methodists' for Divesting From israel

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:24:43 -0600 (MDT), in soc.culture.europe FrankArthur
 wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:32:23 GMT, in soc.culture.jewish "torresdD"
 wrote:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3418316,00.html
Methodists 'bordering anti-Semitism'

ADL Director slams American Christian group for Israel
divestment call

Yaakov Lappin Published:
06.27.07, 16:37 / Israel Jewish Scene

The United Methodist Church's call to divest from companies linked to
Israel "is bordering on anti-Semitism,"

Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman told Ynetnews
on Wednesday.

Foxman furiously condemned recommendations made by the
New England branch of the Methodist Church for its members to divest
"from twenty companies identified as supporting the Israeli occupation
in Palestine."

The recommendations were made by a "task force" of clergy and church
members set up to implement a "resolution to end the Israeli occupation,"
a statement by the Church added.

Foxman, who is currently in Israel, said it was "sad that a religious
institution whose job should be to reconcile continues to be biased
and bigoted."

He added that in the past two years, "there has been a war perpetrated by
Hizbullah, katyushas rockets, and terrorist acts.

Now Hamas, that does not recognize Israel's right to exist and perpetrated
violence, has gotten itself elected, and is in control of a million and a half
Palestinians.

And the Methodists are still there to teach Israel a lesson."

"My reaction is one of outrage to this biased decision,
which borders on anti-Semitism.

The facts show that any decent fair-minded, spiritual, godly person would not
come to a conclusion to boycott the victim, the one that has been praying for
peace, suing for peace, hoping for peace.

To make Israel the target is just outrageous," Foxman added.

In the Church's statement, William P. Aldrich, chairperson
of the 'Divestment Task Force,' was quoted as saying:
"Selective divestment is consistent with the United Methodist commitment
to a just and sustainable peace for all the people of the Middle East."

He added that the divestment campaign
"offers a tangible way of working toward this goal."

In its press release, the Church said it knew its actions would not have an
impact on Israel's economy, adding that "this is not the goal."

"The goal is to make all United Methodists and other Americans aware of their
relationship to companies that benefit from the Israeli occupation," the
statement added.

"The urgency of the humanitarian crisis in the occupied Palestinian
territories cannot be overstated," the United Methodist Church
declared on its website.

Church ackowledges bias

In a separate development, the ADL has welcomed the United
Church of Christ's (UCC) acknowledgment that it has advocated
an unbalanced and one-sided policy against the state of Israel.

The UCC passed a new resolution this week calling for a more
balanced approach to the Middle East conflict.

"We are heartened that members of the United Church of Christ
have come to recognize that Israel deserves a fair hearing and
that some of their policy declarations in the past were based
on unfair and biased assumptions," Foxman said.

"It is a welcome development, and the start of a healthy process
toward a better understanding of a very complex and complicated
history," he added.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
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homosexuals and the like.



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On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:27:17 -0600, Anarchore  wrote:
>robertpeffers@aol.com presented the following explanation :
>> It is quite obvious from his disgustingly racist and despicable anti-
>> Semitism that he is an ignorant, uneducated, low class, common,
>> neanderthalic, hate filled, redneck who is probably an unemployed
>> alcoholic who suffers from erectile dysfunction and who lives in a
>> trailor park.

>> Anarchore represents the old, rapidly shrinking, and ever redundant
>> demographic of White Males who have spent a lifetime trying to stop
>> social change for the better. It would appear from his various online
>> diatribes that he dearly wishes to turn the social clock back to a
>> time when women, visible minorities, aboriginals, people with
>> disabilities, and homosexuals had little or no civil rights in
>> society; and whereby politics, business, academia, law enforcement,
>> and the military were controlled by and for the exclusive benefit of
>> White Males.

>> Sorry Anarchore but mass immigration, equality for women, same-sex
>> marriage, tax payer funded official bilingualism, tax payer funded
>> official multiculturalism, affirmative action, welfare, public
>> healthcare, mass immigration, hate crimes laws for racists and
>> homophobes like you, legal and tax payer funded abortion, and
>> progressive taxation are here to stay for good; and there is
>> absolutely nothing that angry White Males like you can do about it!!!.
>> Demography is simply not on your side!!!.

>Another form letter from Bobber.  


All the disgusting practices endorsed by  Rob Poofters are some of the reasons
so many people now are getting really fed up with Canada!!



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On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:03:21 -0000, Stephen  wrote:

>How on earth was an Edmonton Cop unable to disarm a woman brandishing
>a knife  before resorting to shooting her in the stoamch......Aren't
>the cops supplied with Tasers or Billy Cubs in the West...

Yes, the crooked STABmonton cops ARE supplied with tasers.

However, here the cops prefer to shoot suspects, even in the back, and hope
the suspect dies, so the cops won't have to pay for unlawful force!!

And the crooked cops wonder why the city has such an unsavoury reputation.

Was Mike Boyd as useless in running the Toronto cops, as he is here?



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Subject: FIRE Lowry!! Make Lowry PAY!! EPCOR Screws Up - Penalized $450,000!!  Repost
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When your taxes go skyhigh on your tax bills this month, never forget that
part of it is due to incompetent slime such as LOWRY of EPCOR, and his
negligence in costing Edmonton users an extra $450,000!!


>On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:18:03 GMT, JimMcCarthy
> wrote:

>>Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was 
>>on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!

>>Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!

>>Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammer, deserves to get swindled.


>>On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
>> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
>>> wrote:

>>>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!

>>>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck onto some
>>>junior staffer?

>>>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>>>he is respondible?

>>>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>>>to make up for his negligence?



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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:04:49 -0400, "El Conquistador" 
wrote:

>'Misuse of Canada's identity' questioned in Israeli spy operation

>Stewart Bell
>National Post

>A SENIOR Cabinet official questioned the head of Israel's security service 
>about allegations Israeli undercover agents posed as Canadians during an 
>operation to assassinate a Palestinian terrorist leader, newly released 
>documents show.

>Although Ottawa has said publicly it was convinced all along the spy claims 
>were false, internal documents obtained yesterday show the matter has 
>continued to concern the government and has been the subject of 
>behind-the-scenes diplomacy.

>In a confidential report, officials said they were concerned about "other 
>countries' intelligence services misusing Canada's identity" and that "such 
>misuse endangers Canadians travelling around the world and undermines the 
>integrity of Canadian passports."

>Ronald Bilodeau, the Privy Council Office security and intelligence 
>co-ordinator and Cabinet assistant secretary, met on Oct. 1 with the head of 
>the Israeli Security Agency, whose spies allegedly used false Canadian 
>identities during the operation in Gaza.

>"The ISA is reported to have recently had its agents pose as Canadians to 
>lure a Palestinian, 22-year-old Akram Zatmeh, into informing on Intifada 
>leaders in return for promises of resettlement in Canada," according to a 
>"Secret: Canadian Eyes Only" memo prepared for the meeting.

>  The documents do not describe the response of the ISA chief, who reports 
>directly to Ariel Sharon, the Israeli Prime Minister. Israel has denied the 
>claims. But the papers show Ottawa was worried about being linked to a spy 
>operation and a botched assassination that killed 14 bystanders, nine of 
>them children.

>The allegations surfaced in August, when Mr. Zatmeh publicly detailed how he 
>was lured into becoming an Israeli informant by agents who told him they 
>were Canadians and could help him immigrate. Mr. Zatmeh said he was 
>recruited by three "Canadian" agents who brought him to the Canadian embassy 
>in Tel Aviv before coercing him into helping them, with doctored photos that 
>showed him with naked women.

>On July 23, Mr. Zatmeh helped Israeli agents pinpoint the location of Sheik 
>Salah Shehadeh, a Hamas leader. Twenty minutes later, an Israeli F-16 fired 
>a one-tonne missile at the building, killing not only the sheik but also 
>more than a dozen bystanders.

>Mr. Zatmeh was later arrested as a collaborator and is facing a possible 
>death sentence.

>"Our initial concern ... was that the press articles could be seen by some 
>as alleging Canadian involvement with Israel in the assassination of Sheik 
>Salah Shehadeh," according to an Aug. 29 internal government memo. "Canada 
>has nothing to do with this or with any other purported Israeli operation."

>After the Post learned of the informant's allegations, officials told the 
>newspaper on Sept. 4 they were satisfied the claims were false. However, 
>hours after the Post report on Sept. 5, John McNee, assistant deputy 
>minister for Africa and the Mideast, discussed the matter with Haim Divon, 
>Israel's ambassador to Canada.




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To see a video about the KOSHER TAX, go to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWn--jlRVAI&mode=related&search=

Thanks for posting this nice little introduction to the KosherNostra,
Tommy.

The Kosher industry is a fungus that has penetrated into every level of
US foods production, to the point that, even if you dig around 'til
you find a brand that *doesn't* bear the mark of the Kosher Beast,
most of the ingredients were still likely certified at some level, so
the Kashrus Khazars are still probably getting a cut.

The film indicates that a portion of the monies extracted from the
sleeping Gentiles in the Kosher racket goes to "support Israel"
(read OPPRESS PALESTINIANS), and this is almost undoubtedly the case.
The OU (Orthodox Union) is the Big Nose in the US Kash-R-Us market, and
they kick massive amounts of cash to support Zionist "causes" in
the Jewish State.

If the Khazars want to eat Kosher from a can, that's fine by me. But
let them pay for their own fetishes - pass around the plat at the ol'
synagogue. But it'd better be a damn BIG plate, as the film indicated
that they'd need to raise about 6 billion a year to replace the
monies that the Goyim currently unwittingly subsidize them.

One final note: As the film mentioned, some companies are now beginning
to balk - disbelieving the lies told them by the Kosher Racketeers, and
dumping certification.  Others are trying to get the best of both
worlds - for instance, right now I'm eating Planters Dry Roasted
Peanuts. On the package is a simple letter "K". It's not a
enclosed in a circle or a triangle, not enmeshed ins some fancy
pattern, just a simple "K" located approximately where an
"official" Kosher Symbol - owned by the racketeers- would be
placed.

This means that the company is self-regulating, and is NOT playing the
Kosher Racketeers game - OR paying them.    0:-(>

This is the company's way of telling the Kash-R-US Rabbis to take a
flying leap - as the Jews can't copyright the letter "K", (and
this drives these Food Nazis mad). Of course, Kosher Keeping Jew would
never buy the product because they know better - but the  "Kosher is
Better" Gentile consumer - those who have been duped into believing
that the Kosher seal somehow translates to mean a "better" product
(it doesn't - EVER) will never know the difference, and will buy it
anyway.


The shitty part for the Rabbinical Racketeers is that they CAN'T try
to educate the Gentile public on this matter - if they do, the jig'll
be up, and they'll soon be paying for their own picnic.  0:-(>


Will Planters (or Tabasco, etc) miss the Kosher Jewish market? Hell no!
Jews make up only about 2% of the US population, and only about 10% of
those are serious about keeping Kosher on a daily basis. To paraphrase
the ADL's article: The profit that companies make by selling mainline
products to Kosher Keeping Jews is SO low that "we can't even
calculate it".
**
Waldo
Observer at Large



Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!

When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the 
KOSHER TAX, who is more believable, them or liars such as you?

 Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
$30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!


On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:43:26 -0400, "zr"  wrote:

>You've got so much crap you should bottle it.
>Heinz & Libby both still have "cor" on their products. Just look on the back 
>of a bottle of Ketchup dimwit!
>Here is also another fact for you "herr grubber" the Heiress to the Heinz 
>fortune is a Jewess married to a Jew John F Kerry. You know the one, he ran 
>for President of the USA.
>Never mind Das Boat you get Das Boot imbecile.
>
>"Joe Bruno"  wrote in message 
>news:esbp729g8oqmc6h0b6hbodfj50rlfqgaa5@4ax.com...
>> Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!

>> When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the 
>> KOSHER TAX, who is more beleivable, them or liars such as you?

>> Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
>> $30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!

>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!

>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:53:33 -0500, "zr"  wrote:
>>
>>>Pure Bullshit!
>>>Next you'll be telling everyone Hallal foods are a rip off. Then Cereal, 
>>>and
>>>baby food.
>>>How about dog food.
>>>Isn't that what you white trash racists eat.
>>
>>>"Jules Streiker"  wrote in message
>>>news:ps7lt11vqd26jm3sc17tvahpierd7qhtha@4ax.com...
>>>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>>>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>>>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!
>>>>
>>>> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
>>>> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
>>>> part-time job!!
>>>>
>>>> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
>>>> extortion tax!!
>>>>
>>>> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>>>> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>>>> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>>>> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
>>>> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>>>> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>>>> qualified to do...
>>>>
>>>> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>>>> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>>>> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!
>>>>
>>>>>From: norma2339@charter.net
>>>>>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>>>>>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>>>>>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>>>>>"veranda"  wrote in message
>>>>>news:...
>>>>>> > >     veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since 
>>>>>> > > it
>>>>>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>>>>>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .
>>>>>> > >     The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>>>>>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost
>>>>
>>>>>>  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:9abc4e06.0304010305.50dc870e@posting.google.com...
>>>>>> > What duplication?  It is a symbol on the container and the cost 
>>>>>> > would
>>>>>> > not change in any way.  This "paranoia" is silly.
>>>>
>>>>>veranda : what 'paranoia' ?? we are talking about saving money .
>>>>>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>>>>>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>>>>>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>>>>>you knew that !
>>>>>Kosher is Israel's food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>>>>>we got our own  !  :)
>>>>
>>>>>Well, to set the record straight.  The Rabbinate council that approves
>>>>>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>>>>>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>>>>>doesn't really care.  It is not an item by item thing.  With the
>>>>>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>>>>>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>>>>>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>>>>>day.)
>>>>
>>>>>What would it save you--less than $10 a year.
>>>>
>>>>>All countries have their own Rabbinate Cousels, so don't think that it
>>>>>is just Canada with their own.  Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>>>>>have demanded more money?
>>>>
>>>>>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>>>>>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>>>>>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>>>>>couldn't make any money either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin 
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>>>>>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!
>>>>
>>>>>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>>>>>by Ernesto Cienfuegos
>>>>>La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>
>>>>>Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>>receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers
>>>>>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>>>>>attention.
>>>>
>>>>>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>>>>>of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can be found
>>>>>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>>>>>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>>>>>do some research into the subject. What we found
>>>>>certainly was "news" to us and it both shocked and angered us.
>>>>
>>>>>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>>>>>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>>>>>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>>>>>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>>>>>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>>>>>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>>>>>container, the Trader Joe's tea box and even the Glads plastic
>>>>>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.
>>>>
>>>>>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>>>>>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>>>>>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>>>>>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>>>>>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>>>>>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>>>>>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>>>>>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>>>>>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>>>>>that the mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher".
>>>>
>>>>>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and
>>>>>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>>>>>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>>>>>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>>>>>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>>>>>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher"
>>>>>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>>>>>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>>>>>products.
>>>>
>>>>>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>>>>>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>>>>>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>>>>>receive protection.
>>>>
>>>>>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>>>>>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>>>>>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>>>>>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>>>>>other similar markings.
>>>>
>>>>>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>>>>>sophisticated "Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the
>>>>>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>>>>>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>>>>>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>>>>>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>>>>>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>>>>>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>>>>>in New York City.
>>>>
>>>>>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>>>>>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>>>>>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>>>>>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>>The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>>>>>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>>>>>certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>>>>>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>>>>>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>>>>>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>>>>>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>>>>>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>>>>>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>>>>>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>>>>
>>>>>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>>>>>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>>>>>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>>>>>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.
>>>>
>>>>>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>>>>>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>>>>>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>>>>>up to "inspect" the company's operations.
>>>>>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>>>>>lucrative salaries.
>>>>
>>>>>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>>>>>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>>>>>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>>>>>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>>>>>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>>>>>it now.
>>>>
>>>>>Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will
>>>>>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>>>>>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>>>>>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>>>>>certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee"
>>>>>or "kosher plastic sandwich bags".
>>>>>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>>>>>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>>>>>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>>>>>other non-Jewish people?
>>>>>* * * * * * * * * * * *
>>>>
>>>>>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>>>>>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below, today's Southam newspapers
>>>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>>>all Heinz products.
>>>>
>>>>>Heinz declared this was done " to keep costs down" according
>>>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.
>>>>
>>>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>>>including those sold under the Libby's label.
>>>>
>>>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis).
>>>>
>>>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>From: tyler 
>>>>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>>>>consumers
>>>>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT
>>>>
>>>>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers
>>>>
>>>>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>>>>proof is easily found.
>>>>
>>>>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>The following has been snipped from:
>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm
>>>>
>>>>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website explains:
>>>>
>>>>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>>>>close investigation and supervision.
>>>>
>>>>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.
>>>>
>>>>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost is minimial to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>>>>that!
>>>>
>>>>>>...and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>>>>annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>>>>friends and neighbours if they  know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>>>>Jewish, they won't have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>>>>because something is certified.
>>>>
>>>>>>tyler
>>>>>>the consumer watchdog!!!
>>>>
>>>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>>>>
>>>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>>>>
>>>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>>> is a revolutionary act."
>>>> (George Orwell)
>>>>
>>>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>>>>
>>>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>>>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>>>
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>>>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
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>>>>
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>>>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>>> and impossible to ignore."
>>>> --John Bryant
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> is
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>>>>
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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, "princeandy"  wrote:

>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.

A lot of good ideas!

Now definitely needed for the members of the pedofilia party in
Holland!!

Also, for judges in Canada releasing repeat child molesters!!


On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:06:56 -0600, Ken McVaySOBC
 wrote:

>Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have approved
>special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags!!

>In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get their just
>punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!


>>DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags!!

>>This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
>>since many US states, and foreign countries are
>>starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.

>>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
>>of televising executions.

>>A few more thoughts on the subject.

>>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
>>VICTIMS of the criminals executed.

>>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
>>not only determine the method of execution, but should also
>>have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.

>>Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
>>but not limited to such, would include:
>
>>         AIDS spreaders
>>         rapists
>>         drug dealers
>>         home invaders
>>         armed robbers
>>         pederasts and similar child molesters
>>         crooked liars/lawyers
>>         corrupt judges
>>         corrupt politicians
>>         insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
>>         members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
>>         useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
>>              criminals being released
>>Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
>>         any spreader of any disease,including STD - this would
>>                obviously  include most faggots
>>        white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
>>                dollars  (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
>>                how they would   exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)


>>Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:

>>         crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
>>         vivisection
>>         medical experiments without anaesthetic
>>         target practice for police and military
>>         beheading
>>         hanging
>>         barbecueing by electrocution
>>         drawing & quartering

>>Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
>>	guillotining, very popular in France
>>	flaying alive until dead
>>	stoning to death - popular in some jurisdictions

>>More suggestions for both categories are invited.


>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant

>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431

>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.

>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473


>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:27:02 -0600, "Robert Sveinson"
>> wrote:
>>>"Roedy Green"  wrote in message
>>>news:81ptr0pj2ibnkktvdlh3ngrr09jgjih5d9@4ax.com...
>>>> The Iraqis are hopelessly outgunned, yet to everyone's surprise that
>>>> tiny country has held the biggest military in the world at bay.

>>>> One of their most successful techniques has been beheadings, and
>>>> releasing videos. This creates maximum horror with minimal loss of
>>>> life.

>>>> I think they could improve on the productions to make clear they are
>>>> in retaliation.

>>>> So I think the next beheading video should be spliced or split screen
>>>> with shots of dozens of people Americans have beheaded with their
>>>> bombs and machine gun fire.

>>>> I think they should branch out from beheadings, partly because
>>>> beheadings are too unreal.  They need something the man in the street
>>>> can more relate to.

>>>> I suggest, removing fingernails and toenails, removing or splitting
>>>> the penis, crushing the testicles in a vice, gouging out an eye with
>>>> a popsicle stick, allowing rats to nibble, nails through the hands and
>>>> feet, throwing darts at a target painted on the stomach, rubbing
>>>> rotting dead baby corpse goo over Americans stretched naked and then
>>>> slashing with knives to create gangrenous infections to be
>>>> photographed in stop motion, squeezing lemon juice into wounds.

>>>> Play with common phobias, e.g. spiders, snakes, scorpions, rats,
>>>> heights. E.g. video falling to death from a tall building with cameras
>>>> situated at top, bottom and attached to the victim.

>>>> Since Bush started the sexual abuse, and condones child rape, how
>>>> about killing a man with ever larger things shoved up his ass, pounded
>>>> home with a sledgehammer till he splits like a watermelon.

>>>> Of course any such violence must be justified by showing video of at
>>>> least a dozen instances of Americans doing something similar first.

>>>> "Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
>>>> Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
>>>> nor of Mussolini."
>>>> ~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
>>>>   on Bush's atrocities in the Iraq war.

>>>> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
>>>> See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes




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In a banner headline story across page B1 of the Edmonton Journal for 21 July
2006, Statistics Canada reports that Edmonton Canada is now the crime capital
of Canada!

The Edmonton region homicide/murder rate is documented at 4.3 per 100,000
people, compared to only 2.0 for crime-ridden Toronto!!

And, the Edmonton stats do not include bodies found outside the area, from the
notorious Edmonton serial killer of 107 female prostitiutes!

And the city wonders why it is getting such bad international publicity,
mainly caused by the crooked cops, who apparently can not even catch a cold,
let alone the serial murderer, who is suspected by many, to be either a cop,
judge or criminologist.


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I doubt that even the fags would bother visiting Canada, 
not even to get a fag "marriage"

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:20:02 GMT, PureVenom 
wrote:

>This should do wonders for the airlines considering landing at the Leduc
>moosepasture with idiots for WEM from Europe!!

>Looks like a very lean summer for the tourist slime in STABmonton, if suckers
>from Europe continue the boycott!!


>On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:18:38 GMT, RevPhelps 
>wrote:

>>In a headline news story today published across Canada, German and 
>>Dutch tour operators will now start to boycott Canada.

>>This is part of a protest against Canada cancelling GST rebates for foreign
>>visitors. As many tour operators stated, "We simply can not afford to lose
>>money on bookings to Canada."

>>European tour operators, because of EU regulations, are unable to pass on to
>>their customers increases in costs, such as being forced to pay the Canadian
>>GST without being able to recover from the Canadian government.

>>The Tourism Industry Association of Canada is very disappointed with the tour
>>operators for their decision to pull out of Rendez-vous Canada.

>>It is a public relations and marketing challenge, president Randy Williams
>>claims.

>>Coming on the heels of all the bad news for tourism in Canada - the
>>over-priced Canuck dollar, SARS, post-911 strict travel security measures at
>>airports, confusion over the US passport rules, and significant crime problems
>>in places such as Edmonton Canada, tourism across Canada will really feel the
>>effect of the boycott.

>>It is expected that Caribbean destinations, Australia, and even South America
>>should all benefit from the stupidity of the Canadian government.



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The death penalty will also apply to female druggies, since they do not
discriminate based on sex.

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 12:26:14 -0400, "Paris Hilton" 
wrote:

>All backwards, ignorant societies, to be sure.

>Why don't you expound on how wonderfully the aforementioned 4 countries 
>treat their women?

>"MattKern"  wrote in message 
>news:po2363d8tmo9g0rscp7hbpusm23m5l5ai0@4ax.com...
>> At least some countries know what to do with the human garbage involved 
>> with drugs!

>> Malaysia,Singapore,  Indonesia and Saudi Arabia know that an executed 
>> criminal will never re-offend.

>> Pity that the UK, Canada and the US still have not learned this!


>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 00:49:01 +1000, BernardZ  
>> wrote:

>>>Alex the death penalty still exists in Saudi Arabia

>>>http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?
>>>xfile=data/middleeast/2007/May/middleeast_May217.xml§ion=middleeast&
>>>col=

>>>RIYADH - A Saudi convicted of murder and two Pakistanis found guilty of
>>>drug trafficking were beheaded by the sword on Sunday, the interior
>>>ministry said.

>>>Mufreh bin Ahmad al-Missbali Assiri stabbed to death Abdullah bin
>>>Mohammed al-Mudhlim Assiri after an argument, the ministry said in a
>>>statement carried by the state news agency SPA.

>>>He was executed in the southwestern region of Assir.

>>>The two Pakistani men were beheaded in the Red Sea city of Jeddah for
>>>drug trafficking, the ministry said in a separate statement.

>>>Nasser Khan and Abdulrasheed Musharaf were caught trying to smuggle
>>>undisclosed amounts of heroin hidden in their stomachs into the kingdom,
>>>the ministry said.

>>>The beheadings brought to 66 the number of executions announced by the
>>>Saudi authorities this year.

>>>At least 37 people were executed in 2006, while 83 were put to death in
>>>2005 and 35 the year before, according to AFP tallies based on official
>>>statements.

>>>Executions are usually carried out in public in Saudi Arabia, which
>>>applies a strict form of sharia, or Islamic law. Rape, murder, apostasy,
>>>armed robbery and drug trafficking can all carry the death penalty.




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In Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia, all the garbage drug people get the same
treatment, no matter their colour.

All get the "long drop", which means they will no longer be a burden on
society.

They publicly advertise : DADAH MEANS DEATH at all points of entry, so that
the druggies know the penalty before entering the countries.


On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:33:33 +0800, "Agong Mat"  wrote:

>If these two unfortunate smuglers were white, it will be a different
>scaenario. The Oz PM, the GZ Governor and the Queen will all fight to save
>the white trash. So, you see, it alls boils down to racism! I just hope
>spmeday, some whute trash are caught in Malaysia and Singapore.

>"MattKern"  wrote in message
>news:coqt535rehksq4kqo904f0bumc1b13omao@4ax.com...
>> At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people,
>> such as drug dealers.
>>
>> They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
>> criminal will never re-offend!!
>>
>> Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the
>upkeep
>> in some pampering prison system!!
>>
>> If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow
>suit!!!
>> Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just
>arrested!!
>>
>>
>> On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking" 
>wrote:
>>
>> >AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>> >Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>> >this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>> >the streets of Sydney.
>>
>> >The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>> >drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>> >radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>> >doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.
>>
>> >But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>> >tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>> >raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>> >a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>> >opposes the death penalty worldwide.
>>
>> >Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>> >Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>> >to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>> >traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>> >executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.
>>
>> >It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>> >Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>> >December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>> >appeals for clemency.
>>
>> >It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>> >despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>> >there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>> >bodies or conceal it in their luggage.
>>
>> >Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>> >Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>> >and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>> >lethally injects traffickers.
>>
>> >Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>> >Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>> >information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>> >of couriers the trade calls "mules".
>>
>> >"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>> >drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>> >he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>> >the law of quick dollars."
>>
>> >The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>> >sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>> >already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>> >his own party room.
>>
>> >The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>> >February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>> >uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.
>>
>> >Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>> >remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>> >previous successful run and another aborted attempt.
>>
>> >This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>> >determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>> >and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>> >treaties.
>>
>> >"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>> >engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>> >them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>> >we will continue to operate within."
>>
>> >What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>> >over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>> >execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.
>>
>> >The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>> >was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>> >the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.
>>
>> >"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>> >citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.
>>
>> >Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>> >Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>> >illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.
>>
>> >While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>> >action.
>>
>> >The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>> >the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>> >Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>> >charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>> >do as it thought best until charges were laid.
>>
>> >By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>> >evidence had been gathered.
>>
>> >Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>> >drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>> >choose who it chooses to cooperate with."
>>
>> >International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>> >the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>> >Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>> >a decade.
>>
>> >Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>> >threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.
>>
>> >Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>> >penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>> >support of up to 80 per cent.
>>
>> >In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>> >that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>> >for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>> >die.
>>
>> >Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.
>>
>> >In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>> >Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>> >acts of terrorism.
>>
>> >Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>> >Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>> >said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>> >pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.
>>
>> >How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.
>>
>> >Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>> >out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>> >Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.
>>
>> >Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>> >inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>> >times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>> >shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.
>>
>> >It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>> >High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>> >Jakarta.
>>
>> >And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>> >grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>> >his mind.
>>
>> >Death penalty Australia's double dilemma
>> >
>> >18.02.06
>> >By Greg Ansley
>>
>



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I doubt that even the fags would bother visiting Canada, 
not even to get a fag "marriage"

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:20:02 GMT, PureVenom 
wrote:

>This should do wonders for the airlines considering landing at the Leduc
>moosepasture with idiots for WEM from Europe!!

>Looks like a very lean summer for the tourist slime in STABmonton, if suckers
>from Europe continue the boycott!!


>On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:18:38 GMT, RevPhelps 
>wrote:

>>In a headline news story today published across Canada, German and 
>>Dutch tour operators will now start to boycott Canada.

>>This is part of a protest against Canada cancelling GST rebates for foreign
>>visitors. As many tour operators stated, "We simply can not afford to lose
>>money on bookings to Canada."

>>European tour operators, because of EU regulations, are unable to pass on to
>>their customers increases in costs, such as being forced to pay the Canadian
>>GST without being able to recover from the Canadian government.

>>The Tourism Industry Association of Canada is very disappointed with the tour
>>operators for their decision to pull out of Rendez-vous Canada.

>>It is a public relations and marketing challenge, president Randy Williams
>>claims.

>>Coming on the heels of all the bad news for tourism in Canada - the
>>over-priced Canuck dollar, SARS, post-911 strict travel security measures at
>>airports, confusion over the US passport rules, and significant crime problems
>>in places such as Edmonton Canada, tourism across Canada will really feel the
>>effect of the boycott.

>>It is expected that Caribbean destinations, Australia, and even South America
>>should all benefit from the stupidity of the Canadian government.



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At least some countries know what to do with the human garbage involved with
drugs!

Malaysia,Singapore,  Indonesia and Saudi Arabia know that an executed criminal
will never re-offend.

Pity that the UK, Canada and the US still have not learned this!


On Wed, 30 May 2007 00:49:01 +1000, BernardZ  wrote:

>Alex the death penalty still exists in Saudi Arabia

>http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?
>xfile=data/middleeast/2007/May/middleeast_May217.xml§ion=middleeast&
>col=


>RIYADH - A Saudi convicted of murder and two Pakistanis found guilty of 
>drug trafficking were beheaded by the sword on Sunday, the interior 
>ministry said.

>Mufreh bin Ahmad al-Missbali Assiri stabbed to death Abdullah bin 
>Mohammed al-Mudhlim Assiri after an argument, the ministry said in a 
>statement carried by the state news agency SPA.

>He was executed in the southwestern region of Assir.

>The two Pakistani men were beheaded in the Red Sea city of Jeddah for 
>drug trafficking, the ministry said in a separate statement.

>Nasser Khan and Abdulrasheed Musharaf were caught trying to smuggle 
>undisclosed amounts of heroin hidden in their stomachs into the kingdom, 
>the ministry said.

>The beheadings brought to 66 the number of executions announced by the 
>Saudi authorities this year.

>At least 37 people were executed in 2006, while 83 were put to death in 
>2005 and 35 the year before, according to AFP tallies based on official 
>statements.

>Executions are usually carried out in public in Saudi Arabia, which 
>applies a strict form of sharia, or Islamic law. Rape, murder, apostasy, 
>armed robbery and drug trafficking can all carry the death penalty.



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Guys, stop discussing ambulances.

How much do you think would be fair pay for the clowns on council, plus the
mare?

I doubt that we would get any candidates if we paid them what they are REALLY
worth, but at least give them something, for wasting hundreds of millions -
say welfare rates?


On 9 Apr 2006 21:38:59 -0000, Dump The Crooks  wrote:

>Canadian Taxpayers Association has exposed what many Edmonton taxpayers have
>long suspected.

>Because the city council and mayor pay themselves by having one third TAXFREE,
>unlike most honest taxpayers, they are in fact way overpaid for the scams they
>are endorsing.

>CTA have confirmed that city councillors are in fact getting the equivalent of
>$85,110 per year, which is more than other cities are paying.

>The mayor is seriously overpaid, getting the equivalent of $167,870 a year!!
>This means that the mayor of Deadmonton gets $6,000 more than Ralph Klein,
>Premier of Alberta!!

>Time to dump ALL the mayor and Council, and replace them with honest, hard-working
>councvillors getting a basic pay of $52,000 a year - PLUS BONUSES BASED ON LOWER TAXES
>AND BETTER PERFORMANCE OF CITY ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS!

>At the same time, Council should implement ZBB - Zero Based Budgetting, and fire
>all unnecessary city managers, and close down non-appropriate city departments.
>Let the federal and provincial governments operate those functions which are THEIR responsibilities, 
>such as arts, sports,multiculuralism, and welfare, to name a few.

>Sharx, Sew, Grosvenor - care to comment?



>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant




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When TWO Jew media - Canadian Jew News, and Jewish Telegraph Agency 
both report the story, it must be true!!

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 18:25:51 GMT, scott@free.info wrote:

>Yehuda Bauer on the Wannsee Conference

>THE CANADIAN JEWISH NEWS, Jan. 30, 1992 

>Wannsee's importance rejected 
>London (JTA) - An Israeli Holocaust scholar has debunked the Wannsee
>Conference, at which top Nazi officials are said to have gathered at a
>villa in a Berlin suburb in 1942 to draw the blueprints of the "Final
>Solution." 

>According to Prof. Yehuda Bauer (photo) of the Hebrew University in
>Jerusalem, Wannsee was a meeting, "but hardly a conference", and
>"little of what was said there was executed in detail." 

>"The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at
>Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at."



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From: "Paul Fromm" 
To: 
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:42:09 -0400

Marc Lemire demands adjournment of Canadian Human Rights Tribunal until
Federal Court rules on CHRC abuse of Section 37

Support Marc Lemire's Constitutional Challenge

Be part of our team and contribute what you can to defeat this horrible law
and protect Freedom of Speech in Canada ! 

  
Via Mail: Send Cheque or Money Order to: 

Canadian Association for Free Expression,

P.O. Box 332,

Rexdale, ON

M9W 5L3

Canada


To: Canadian Human Rights Tribunal,

160 Elgin St., 11th Floor,

Ottawa, ON K1A 1J4


To the Tribunal:

This is a motion for an adjournment sine die pending the disposition of the
respondent’s application to the Federal Court of Canada in Lemire v. Warman et
al., Court File No. T-860-07, for a determination of the claim to public
interest immunity by the Canadian Human Rights Commission pursuant to section
37 of the Canada Evidence Act (hereinafter referred to as “the CEA.”)

The respondent filed the Notice of Application on May 17, 2007. The
application concerns the invocation of section 37 of the CEA on May 9 and 10,
2007 by the Commission during the testimony of Hannya Rizk and Dean Steacy. It
also concerns the invocation of section 37 by the Commission in response to
the motion by the respondent for a subpoena of Bell Canada.

The Tribunal was served with the Notice of Application on May 25, 2007.

Notices of Appearance in the proceeding have been filed by the Canadian Human
Rights Commission, the Attorney General of Canada, the Canadian Association
for Free Expression Inc. and the Canadian Free Speech League.


The Law

It is submitted that the normal and expected procedure where a section 37
objection has been made is for the inferior court or tribunal to adjourn the
proceedings to allow the matter to be taken to the superior courts. The
following are examples from the case law:

1. In R. v. Richards (1997), 115 C.C.C. (3d) 377 (Ont. C.A.), the judge in a
preliminary hearing adjourned the inquiry to allow the Crown to bring an
application under s. 37 of the CEA for an order prohibiting disclosure of the
information. On appeal, the Ontario Court of Appeal stated:

Ҧ 2 In the course of the preliminary inquiry, the Crown objected to
disclosure of information pertaining to the location from which the police
officer observed the alleged sale and the description of the automobile used
by the undercover officers when the alleged drug purchase was made. Judge
Casey, of the Provincial Division, concluded, correctly in our view, that the
information was relevant to the issue of identification, and could not be
excluded under the very limited power to exclude relevant defence evidence set
down in R. v. Seaboyer (1991), 66 C.C.C. (3d) 321 (S.C.C.) at 391. We do not
read Judge Casey's reasons as having determined the Crown's public interest
privilege claim. Instead, he adjourned the inquiry to allow the Crown to bring
an application under s. 37 of the Canada Evidence Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-5 for
an order prohibiting disclosure of the information.

…..

¶ 16 In those cases where the judge conducting the preliminary inquiry orders
disclosure, there will be some delay in the completion of the preliminary
inquiry if the Crown chooses to bring a s. 37 application. The Crown also has
the option of avoiding the delay by terminating the preliminary inquiry and
proceeding by way of a direct-line indictment under s. 577.2 The resultant
delay, while unfortunate, is necessary to give effect to Parliament's clear
intention that the Crown have access to the superior court before being
required to disclose information which it claims is protected by the public
interest privilege.”


2. In R. v. Vaillancourt [1995] O.J. No. 898 (QL) (Prov. Div.), a preliminary
inquiry was adjourned so that an objection under section 37 could be
adjudicated in the superior court:

Crown counsel, during the court of defence counsel's cross-examination of one
of its witnesses on a preliminary inquiry, has objected to that witness,
Detective Gauthier, answering certain questions by certifying orally pursuant
to section 37(1) of the Canada Evidence Act, that the witness' answers should
not be disclosed because they would reveal the identity of a police informer.
Crown counsel objected to this disclosure after the witness had refused to
answer certain questions and I had ruled that the information sought was
relevant to the defence and had compelled the witness to answer.

The preliminary inquiry was then adjourned, so that the issue of police
informant privilege could be determined by application to the General Division
of this court, pursuant to the procedure set out in section 37(3) of the
Canada Evidence Act.”


3. In Regina v. Philip (1993), 80 CCC (3d) 167 (Ont. C.A.), the trial
proceedings were adjourned to allow counsel to challenge the privilege claim
by the RCMP under section 37 of the Act. The Ontario Court of Appeal reviewed
the chronology in part as follows: 

“June 12, 1991 -- The trial commences with a voir dire to determine the
admissibility of the seized material. 

June 13, 1991 -- After approximately one and one-half days of evidence on the
voir dire, counsel for the R.C.M.P. appears and objects to the disclosure of
certain material in the police files. The objection is based on "public
interest" grounds. Counsel provides certificates under s. 37 of the Canada
Evidence Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. E-10, certifying the privilege claim. The trial
proceedings are adjourned to allow counsel to challenge the privilege claim in
the superior court as provided for in s. 37(3) of the Canada Evidence Act.”

4. In Re Attorney General of Canada et al. and Sander (1994), 90 CCC (3d) 41
(BCCA), the court held that an application under section 37 to a superior
court is an independent inquiry and not an interlocutory appeal or a review
and that therefore the trial proceedings should be adjourned to allow the
superior court to make its determination under the provision. It held:


“A s. 37 application is an independent inquiry which, by statute, may require
the attention of a judge other than the trial judge. Section 37(3) makes that
plain: 37(3) Subject to sections 38 and 39, where an objection to the
disclosure of information is made under subsection (1) before a court, person
or body other than a superior court, the objection may be determined, on
application, in accordance with subsection (2) by 

(b) the trial division or trial court of the superior court of the province
with which the court, person or body exercises its jurisdiction, in any other
case. 

Thus, when an objection to disclosure under s. 37 is made at trial by the
Crown in a court other than a superior court, the trial proceedings should be
adjourned so the objection may be determined in a superior court. Construing
s. 37 in that way, it cannot be said to authorize an interlocutory appeal or a
review. “ [at page 5 of attached case]

…
The authorities indicate that pursuing one claim does not exclude the other.
The problems experienced in this case arise from failing to separate the two
claims, and in dealing with the s. 37 application as if it was a review of the
disclosure order made at trial. Furthermore, if the provisions of s. 37(3) had
been employed, the application at trial for disclosure should have been
objected to immediately, with a request for an adjournment to allow the Crown
to pursue the s. 37(1) application. If that procedure had been employed, and
if the proper considerations had been advanced on the s. 37(1) application the
confusion could have been avoided. [at page 9 of attached case]

5. In R. v. Sander (1995), 98 CCC(3d) 564 (BCCA), the court held that a 40
month delay in the accused’s trial caused by an objection by the Crown under
s. 37 of the CEA infringed his right to a trial within a reasonable time. The
trial had been adjourned while the section 37 application was taken to the
superior court. The B.C. Court of Appeal, in upholding a stay of the
proceedings, held:

¶ 29 Where the trial is in Provincial Court, an application under s. 37
operates to interrupt the trial, to remove to another court the determination
of an issue ordinarily determined by the trial judge. The judge hearing the s.
37 application examines the documents to see whether the trial judge should
see them.

 
Submissions

The case law under section 37 of the CEA clearly indicates that it is a
separate and independent inquiry and not an interlocutory appeal. Case law
stating that judicial review from an evidentiary ruling during a hearing is
premature and inappropriate is not applicable in these circumstances. This is
obviously so in this case as the Tribunal did not make any rulings whatsoever
on the section 37 objections, acknowledging it had no jurisdiction to do so.


It is established procedure for the hearing or trial to be adjourned while the
determination of the objection under section 37 is made to a superior court. 

The Commission has invoked section 37 and it must be aware that an application
to a superior court will entail delays in this hearing. It has nevertheless
chosen to use an extraordinary procedure in order to protect information from
disclosure. The respondent is entitled under the law to a determination of
whether this information should be disclosed as it goes directly to the
constitutional issues raised in this case.

The respondent therefore requests that this matter be adjourned sine die
pending a final determination by the Federal Court in Lemire v. Warman et al.,
Court File No. T-860-07 and the completion or expiration of any appeals
therefrom.

http://www.freedomsite.org/legal/jun...ection_37.html

CHRC Abuse of Section 37 of the Canada Evidence Act to cover-up the misdeeds
of the CHRC

__________________

 



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>On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, "Venceremos"  wrote:

>>The Accusations

>>     Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>>     Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
>>     British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
>>     escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
>>     February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

>>     I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
>>     I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
>>     deeds of the war.

>>     While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still
>>     on my arm

>>     Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
>>     uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

>>     Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

>>     Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>     little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>>     when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>>     (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

>>     These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>>     published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>>     "I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
>>     commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
>>     in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
>>     future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
>>     directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>     political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>     authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

>>     This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>>     lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
>>     Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
>>     collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>     hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
>>     Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
>>     camps, the price...was not too high for me.

>>     "...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
>>     Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
>>     While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
>>     another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
>>     with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>     he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>>     "Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
>>     a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

>>     "As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
>>     between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
>>     immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>>     would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>>     blood to achieve his political goal...
>>     'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
>>     this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
>>     service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
>>     would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>     concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>>     That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
>>     (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

>>     Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
>>     do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
>>     money and military equipment."

>>     Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>     According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
>>     When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
>>     citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
>>     Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
>>     views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>>     official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
>>     Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
>>     of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>     -88-

>KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

>Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER, 
>and RUMKOWSKI!!
>The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

>Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi 
>GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


>On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer  wrote:

>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest.......

>>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>>Date: 1997/07/12

>>The Kastner Case

>>Introduction

>>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>>and will show that on this question 'The documentation available is
>>overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks
>>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>>most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>>3CR for anti-semitism.

>>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>>what Kastner was accused of.

>>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>>been unable to find out what it is all about.

>>The Accusations

>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>>he wrote:

>>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>>Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>>of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there.

>>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>>not too high for me.

>>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)

>>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>>The Verdict

>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>>backfire on the censors themselves.

>>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.

>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>>the Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.

>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.

>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.

>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.

>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>>expensively if honorably guided.

>>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.

>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.

>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?

>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.

>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from the book of the living.

>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.

>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>>to another."

>>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>>General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>>"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.

>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.

>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.

>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.

>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>>the good intention of good Becher'.

>>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>>Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>>in Nuremberg.

>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements." (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.

>>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>>matter.

>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.

>>But the story does not end there.

>>The Reaction

>>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>>now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.

>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:

>>"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)

>>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
>>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

>>"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>>defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).

>>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:

>>"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>>defense." (23 June 1955)

>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.

>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>> disclose." (23 June 1955)

>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.

>>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
>>*Ma'ariv*:

>>"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>>of our history!

>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)

>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand here
>>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>>representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p. 268)

>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.

>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.

>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.

>>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>>court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>rehabilitated'.

>>The Majority Judgement

>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.

>>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>>totally missing the point.

>>Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>>Kastner.
>>They JOINED him.

>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:

>>"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>>'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>>protocol 465).

>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which on can
>>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

>>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a moral and public point of view...

>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger....

>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.

>>The Minority Judgement

>>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

>>"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others....

>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.'

>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>>bribery, etc - and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a claim of such good faith...

>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...

>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
>>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.

>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.

>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

>>Conclusion

>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration with the Nazis.

>>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the 'dragging in
>>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships'.

>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.

>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>>being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.

>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.

>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.

>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>>'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, 'now dead'. Or
>>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>>Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>>before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
>>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>>secret service.
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
>>admitted in court during the murder trial).

>>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>>dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
>>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>>at least as an insurance policy.

>>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>>existed.
>>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.

>>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

>>We shall go on to prove this in detail.

>>Elias Davidsson - Oldugata 50 - 101 Reykjavik - Iceland
>>Tel. (354)-552-6444     Fax: (354)-552-6579
>>Email: edavid@itn.is     URL:  http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:52:54 -0300, "Justin Case" 
wrote:
> wrote in message
>news:1184161677.311180.238070@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> I just priced a Ford vehicle at $45,000 US and $57,000 in Canada. Our
>> dollar is pretty close and I'm wondering why the big spread.
>> I see the same trend with Chrysler and GM.
>> A call to the local dealer got me nothing. He daid he thought it had
>> something to do with the auto pact deal.
>> Some of the vehicles I researched are actually built in Canada.
>> Would anybody on the board know why we are paying more?

In the USA the Sherman Anti-Trust Law prohibits price fixing.

In Canada, the communist government supports price fixing, even to the 
extent of forcing prices on food items higher through bureaucratic so-called
"marketing boards".

With NAFTA, there is no longer any duty on cars from the US, so if price is
cheaper there, go down and bring back to communist Canada.

Many residents of Toronto buy their cars in New York State.
Similarly, Vancouver B.C. residents shop in Washington State.
To save thousands of dollars, it is worth the trip.

>I was in Mexico a few years ago and our guide pointed out the same thing:
>Mexicans had to pay more for a car made in Mexico than Americans had to pay
>for the same car.

>It may all equalize when the US dollar is devaluated.




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On 30 Sep 2004 18:41:39 -0000,  Student Woes wrote:

>Students complaining about exorbitantly high tuition fees
>should be complaining about all the deadwood profs on
>tenure, drawing obscenely high wages and benefits!!

>So-called professors giving unwanted and useless courses
>to 17 so-called students, (most of whom are natives having
>costs paid by taxpayers,) while drawing $120,000 or so in
>wages, is unfair to poor students struggling to pay for
>tuition, books, other fees, and of course living expenses
>such as rent and food.

>If the students would finally get angry enough to force
>university administrations to ABOLISH TENURE, then perhaps
>tuition fees would actually drop to a more acceptable level.

>Why not abolish all tenured profs, if they can not find enough
>suckers to pay the costs of their wages,class facilities and all
>the other costs connected to having a particular program. In other
>words, have only courses that students who must pay, actually want.

>If the courses are not useful to graduates in obtaining
>worthwhile employment, then the university should not be
>having useless profs sucking at the public teat, to the
>increased cost to students as well.

>How many so-called university graduates are good only for
>a part-time job at McGrungy's, because the courses for
>which they got ripped-off, are not worth anything in the
>real world of employment!!

>FIRE ALL THE USELESS PROFS, [especially those that are PC]
>and let them try to earn a living in the real world.Most of
>these profs would probably have to go on welfare!!



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On Sun, 8 Oct 2006 03:12:14 +0100, in soc.culture.german "Harry"
harry@leavemealone.com> wrote:
"Salah Jafar"  wrote in message 
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Rabbi in sex suit - Ex-students seek $20M
BY AUSTIN FENNER

New York Daily News - May 6, 2006

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/415306p-350953c.html

A Brooklyn rabbi and his yeshiva were hit with a $20 million civil lawsuit 
yesterday, accusing him of molesting two students more than 25 years ago.

One of the alleged victims said Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, 60, sexually assaulted 
him when he was a seventh-grade student attending Yeshiva-Mesivta Torah 
Temimah, an Ocean Parkway, Brooklyn, religious school.

"It happened in his car on the way to school and at recess during summer 
camp," the 48-year-old man said at a press conference.

The plaintiff, identified by his Miami lawyer, Jeffrey Herman, only as John 
Doe No. 1, was allegedly molested during the early 1970s over a two-year 
period, Herman said.

The alleged victim charges that Kolko had instructed him to sit on his lap and
hold the steering wheel while they were in Kolko's car on the way to 
school as the rabbi molested him.

Herman, who claims there are at least 15 victims, charges that school 
officials waged a campaign of intimidation and concealment against victims 
and their families to bury the accusations against the rabbi.

School officials could not be reached for comment.

Kolko, who lives in Midwood in a red-brick house on E. 22nd St., could not 
be reached for comment.

The other plaintiff, who was not present, was identified as a 38-year-old 
man who was allegedly sexually abused when he was also a seventh-grader in 
the 1980s.

The alleged offenses exceed New York's three-year statute of limitations.

Suit claims rabbi molested male students

Political Gateway, FL - May 6, 2006

http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read/11647
NEW YORK, May 6 (UPI) -- A New York rabbi and his religious school are being 
sued by two men who claim they were sexually abused as children more than a 
quarter-century ago.

One man, identified as John Doe No. 1, says Rabbi Yehuda Kolko, 60, molested 
him when he was in the seventh-grade at Yeshiva-Mesivta Torah Temimah in 
Brooklyn in the 1970s, the Daily News reported. The man, now 48, said at a 
news conference that Kolko had him sit on his lap while the rabbi was 
driving him to school and also abused him at a summer camp.

The second man says he was molested 10 years later when he was a seventh 
grader.

Jeffrey Herman, a Miami lawyer representing John Doe No. 1, accuses the 
school of protecting the rabbi by intimidating boys who had been abused.

Kolko cannot face criminal charges under New York law because of a 
three-year statute of limitations.


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It must be jealousy that is causing all the goyim to object to the fact that
he can scam the IRS and CRA, by money laundering through Bnai Brith

Now, with the Canadian tax Department - CRA - authorising an extra $30 million
for a TAX FRAUD TAX FORCE, McVay and his co-conspirators in Bnai Brith will
probably be joining criminal Bernardo in the pen!!

Plus, all those gullible crooks who used the FRAUDULENT charitable donation
receipts given for payments to McVay's BUSINESS, will now get re-assessed, and
have to pay taxes, penalties, and interest!!

CRA should be able to recover most of the $30 million just from McVay,Bnai
Brith, and the suckers!!


Even Jew groups, such as Sol Littman/Bnai Brith, have a website criticising
Ken McVay at:
http://www.freedomsite.org/exposed/littman/littman_on_mcvay/index.shtml

PROOF THAT MCVAY SWINDLES EVERYONE, AND DOES NOT DECLARE INCOME FOR TAXES!!

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/5863ead7b3942e76?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000 Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Ken McVay is
Lying About Funds He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Report for
2002 Is Further Proof! V3.5   T_0929
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 04:41:48 -0500
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http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New Archives
and The Same Funding Lie by Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
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Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.nationalism.white/msg/56a1a43fe4f9d61d?fwc=1
Subject: The Nizkor Project Deals in Forged Documents and Smear Financed With
Exempt Donations V3-2  T_0929
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Date: 29 Sep 2005 15:34:29 GMT

All links have been updated such as internal GOOGLE links! Just quoting parts
of the abov where McVay says one thing and then another pisses him off!

Even ZHID groups are disgusted with McVay, as this website from BB declares:
http://www.freedomsite.org/exposed/littman/littman_on_mcvay/index.shtml 


Mamser Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting 
and car theft in California and Oregon, the 
well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver, 
also a convicted car thief and all round molester, 
and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of 
the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, now dying from AIDS,
wants all to know about all his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
Here is the latest.......

From: timguegen@NAMBLA.org
Subject: Re:NIZKOR/MCVAY SWINDLE CCRA - ALSO JEWS!!!
Date: Wed,  9 May 2001 20:59:21 +0200 (CEST)
From: NIZKOR WATCH                                                         .
Subject: WWW.NIZKOR.ORG IS A TAX SCAM AND YOU,
THE TAX PAYER, ARE FOOTING THE BILL!
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:46:30 -0600

One must wonder, who in CCRA is on the take,
that they do not prosecute for JEW TAX FRAUDS,
such as McVay/NIZKOR, or the BRONFMANS??

Straight from CCRA: "we have no record of a registered
charity by the name of Nizkor.org."
   
THIS  POST  FILED  WITH  CCRA

FOREWORD: Canadian revenue payers you need to contact
CCRA and ask them how a website is able to receive
"exempt donations" when it is neither a registered
charity or a Non Profit Organization.

In a new development, victims of the false NIZKOR 
charitable donation tax receipts may now contact a 
senior official of CCRA (Canadian IRS).

Call Mr.Philippe Robert
Special Investigations - Charities - CCRA
Phone : 1-800-267-2384, or 1-613-946-2423


The equivalent with IRS in the USA,  
2 phone numbers for:
IRS Criminal Investigations H.O.
1-800-829-0433
or, 202-622-7796

Looks like McVay/NIZKOR, as well as related crooks
will soon be joining their buddies in the slammer.


A letter (included below) from CCRA advises me they
never heard of NIZKOR.ORG so you all should be asking
how Nizkor is offering:
"Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax
receipt" when it is nothing more than a website!

It's YOUR tax dollars financing a man who pays HIMSELF
to defame private citizens!

http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation
Canadian receipt)

CCRA said: "we have no record of a registered charity
by the name of Nizkor.org." (Letter included below)
Only registered charities are allowed
to issue "Canadian receipts"!!

"A registered charity is a charity that has specifically
applied to the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency for
registration and has been accepted as such. A registered
charity can issue charitable receipts for tax purposes."
CCRA rule included below with web link for verification!

THE ONE-CREATURE BUSINESS, RUN BY MCVAY SOLELY TO
LINE HIS POCKETS, IN NO WAY IS A CHARITY AS SPECIFIED BY LAW!!!

	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: Charity webmail 
Sender: "Langdon, Blaine" 
To: Scott Bradbury 
Subject: Registered charity question.
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:23:26 -0500
X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)

Thank you for your e-mail.

The Charities Directorate of the Canada Customs and
Revenue Agency is responsible for the registration
and compliance of charities in Canada.
These organizations are similar to "exempt organizations"
as are registered in the United States.
However, we have no record of a registered charity
by the name of Nizkor.org.

Additionally, due to the confidentiality provisions
of the Canadian Income Tax Act, I am unable to
disclose information concerning a particular
organization's tax affairs, including measures
taken or to be taken by the Department resulting
>from complaints. However, I wish to assure you that
all complaints received by the Department are
treated seriously and are fully investigated,
where appropriate.

Finally, the annual information returns of
Canadian registered charities are available to
the public.
However, as you will note from the above,
Nizkor.org is not a registered charity.
The non-profit information return which you
describe is not available to the public.

Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention.

Sincerely,
Blaine Langdon
Charities Directorate

~~~~END~~~~

LURKERS: here is how Ken McVay and his Nizkor business
is robbing you:

Folks I am getting CCRA's attention and you
all should be putting forth the effort to find
out just how and why a "website" receives "exempt
donations" and the proprietor "pays himself" from
such donations and also his website has issued
"tax receipts." This is a scam which bilks
the Canadian Tax Payer!

LOOK!

http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/tax/nonprofit/menu-e.html
Non-profit organizations - Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency

Remember Canadian Tax Payers -
It is YOU who is subsidizing Nizkor!
Do you want your tax dollar subsidizing this web site?

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Nizkor=&rnum=16&seld=909625816&ic
=1&filter=0
From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,bc.general,can.general,tor.general,on.general
Subject: Re: ATTENTION NIZKOR: Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit
Organization (NPO) Information Return Form T1044
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
Message-ID: <99oro0$259r$1@news.tht.net>
References: 
<3abfe742$0$195@news.impulse.net>

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC), kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org
(Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote:

>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.

Glad to see you making that a public record.
Care to explain how a website not being either an
"NPO nor a Charity" can operate as you
do and issue tax deduction receipts?

No personal attacks now McVay because I WILL HOLD
YOUR FEET TO THE FIRE! I think CCRA would be interested
in what you just declared too!

Personal attack is all people have when they can't
argue their position!
Has everyone ever noticed that trait in people who
have something to hide?

Why do you accept "exempt donations" and issue tax
receipts you bold faced liar and sleaze bag?
Answer that instead of making with the wise cracks.

You are NOT allowed by law to grant tax receipts
according to CCRA statutes which you so conveniently
deleted. The more you act like a pompous arrogant ass -
the more it makes me want to put you in your place.

YOU ARE A LIAR!

Canadian revenue payers take note of this sleazer!
He's being subsidized at your expense!

What sleaze bag McVay deleted because he doesn't want
to deal with it:

http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/E/pub/tg/t4117eq/t4117eq.html#P131_12645

Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization (NPO)
Information Return Includes Form T1044
Visually impaired persons can get information on services
available to them, and can order publications in braille
or large print, or on audio cassette or computer diskette,
by calling 1-800-267-1267 weekdays from
8:15 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. (Eastern Time).

[...]

An NPO described in paragraph 149(1)(l) of the Income
Tax Act is a club,society, or association that is
organized and operated solely for:

social welfare;
civic improvement;
pleasure or recreation;
or any other purpose except profit.

Also, no part of the income of these organizations can
be payable to or otherwise available for the personal
benefit of any proprietor, member, or shareholder,
unless the proprietor, member, or shareholder was a
club, society,or association whose primary purpose
was to promote amateur athletics in Canada.

<>

Distinguishing non-profit organizations from registered
charities
An NPO is not a registered charity.
A registered charity is a charity that has specifically
applied to the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency for
registration and has been ACCEPTED by CCRA  as such.

A registered charity can issue charitable receipts for
tax purposes. An NPO does not have to register either
federally or provincially to maintain
its privileged tax status.

Generally, registered charities also have to disburse
80% of the funds for which they issued charitable receipts
on their own charitable activities or as gifts to qualified
donees.

NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations or membership
fees contributed, and they are not required to disburse a
specified percentage of their earnings.


Notice what CCRA said about "issu[ing] charitable receipts
for tax purposes"? Look at McVay's operation and see if it
complies with the law stated above:
"NPOs cannot issue tax receipts for donations.."
yet Ken McVay's very own BUSINESS - NIZKOR page says:
"Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt."
Ken McVay also claims that NIZKOR is NOT a charity
as shown down further in this post.

http://www.nizkor.org/funding.shtml
Click here to learn how to make an exempt donation (Canadian receipt)
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html

The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its
cooperative affiliation with the League for Human Rights
of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a national volunteer
organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism,
racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights
for all Canadians.

Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their
donation may call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224,
and advise the receptionist that they wish to make a
donation to the Nizkor Project;
If you prefer, you can print this form and send to:

The Nizkor Project
c/o
The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
15 Hove Street
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8

Name:________________________________________
Street Address:________________________________________________
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______
E-Mail Address:_________________________________
Amount Enclosed: $___________

Please make your donations payable to "The League for
Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words
"Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section.
A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used
to build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that
all of your donation be invested for Nizkor's future needs,
please earmark your cheque or draft with the notation
'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only.

(All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund,
Care of The League for Human
Rights of B'nai Brith Canada'.)

Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
[#0235903-43-13]

-----------------------

Notice what is said above?
Look what Ken Mcvay has said not too long ago:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=charity=&rnum=4&seld=955885050&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: JEWS DUMPED FAG MCVAY!!!
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Date: 2000-12-05 13:46:34 PST

"McVay/Nizkor" has never issued tax receipts of any sort,
Mr.Grosvenor, so it's rather silly to suggest we got
"caught at it."



Notice how McVay says one thing and then says another?
His very own "website" says: "Donations over $10.00
will receive a Canadian tax receipt."
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
Yet in the post just above McVay said:
"McVay/Nizkor" has never issued tax receipts of any sort,
Mr. Grosvenor, so it's rather silly to suggest we
got "caught at it."

McVay is a LIAR anyway you look at it! I provided the
links to all of my proofs so that you all, the
concerned citizenry may verify my claims.

It is also plain that McVay does not claim Nizkor
to be a charitable organization as shown here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=charitable=&rnum=1&seld=943267125&ic=1
From: Kenneth McVay, OBC (kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org)
Subject: Re: Is Ken McVay's WWW.NIZKOR.ORG A Sham
Which Gets its Director Spending Money? R 2
Date: 2001-01-06 00:00:08 PST

In article <8kjd5t0el7tbd9lv4o7tsg7hii3qmsgns9@4ax.com>,
Doc Tavish   wrote:
>We know that the Nizkor website relies on charitable
>donations in order to survive. We also accept that any
>organization whose survival depends on charitable
>donations should make its records open to the public.
>Will Ken McVay answer these questions as he is the sole
>director of Nizkor!

How does Mr. Bradbury "know" these things?
How does Mr. Bradbury "know" that Nizkor is a "charitable
organization?" (Can he show that anyone from Nizkor has
ever claimed to be such an organization?)



Well now we know Nizkor is not a "charitable organization"
so it has to be an NPO?!
So why does Ken McVay's NPO declare at its web page:
"Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt"
which would be in violation of: "NPOs cannot issue tax
receipts for donations" but Ken McVay lies to a person
who's an object of his smear campaign: "McVay/Nizkor" has
never issued tax receipts of any sort.."
Then again KcVay admitted higher up in this post:
"Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website."
See how NIZKOR skirts all criteria of the tax laws?

Does Nizkor or does Nizkor not look crooked?

Seeing how Ken McVay's Nizkor accepts "exempt donation[s]"
it would be interesting to see why the Canadian Government
actually approves an organization with such tax status to
operate under the conditions Ken McVay's Nizkor does.
To this very day Ken McVay will not answer these
questions:

1) What is the tax number of Nizkor?
2) What is the physical address of Nizkor?
3) What is the phone number of Nizkor?
4) Where can one find the organizational papers for Nizkor?
  a) How many people compose the Nizkor staff?
     According to ex-staffers who have posted articles to newsgroups,
McVay IS THE 
SOLE PAID EMPLOYEE OF THE BUSINESS!!!
  b) What are the financial responsibilities of Nizkor?
5) What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorized to
   solicit tax free contributions?
6) How much money does Nizkor Org receive yearly as charitable donations?
7) You show below that you pay yourself-- what is your yearly pay?

Subject: Re: How much of a cut does the B'nai Brith get from Nizkor?
Date: 05/08/2000
Author: Kenneth McVay, OBC 

>f) Does Ken McVay pay himself a salary for his work for Nizkor?

Yup - I also appreciate revenue from public speaking and site advertising.

~~~~~~~End Archival Excerpt~~~~~~

8) Is Nizkor proper (it's office and main facilities)
   located in a back room of your own residence as this says?
http://www.Xgeocities.com/dcjarviks/Idler/vIn15.htmlX
(Remove the X's to view the site, this is to help prevent
McVay from spamming the search engines. Link active March 24, 2001)

"A Voyage to Nanaimo-- It takes two hours to cross the
Georgia Strait by ferry from Vancouver, British Columbia,
another half-hour by jitney from the Nanaimo terminal to
reach the home of Kenneth N. McVay, webmaster for
The Nizkor Project . The address is an ordinary
suburban split-level in a middle-class neighborhood.
There is nothing distinctive about its location. ....
I am taken to a back room, filled with computer equipment,
monitors, and books... Seated in front of the array is
McVay, apparently a 50-something computer nerd. He is
tall, thin, with short hair and glasses, wired to the
world through his ISP. The Nizkor project which McVay
runs from this room in the back of his house... " 

A question for all reading this:
How many organizations which receive charitable
contributions operate from the backroom of the
director's home? He claims to be non-profit and
it appears that he would have a low overhead--
so how much money does Ken McVay receive for
his backroom operation?
Why won't Ken McVay make public his budget?

9) What sort of legitimate organization keeps
files on private citizens and publicly defames
people on its "hit list" as Nizkor does?

"Canada's Very Own Nizkor's Lies, Smears, and Defamation Answered"
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=digsig=&rnum=5&seld=921850669&ic=1
"Pathological Liar Tubby Edeiken's Perjured Fabricated Evidence"

To continually propagate information which has been
proven false, perjurious, and fabricated and by a person
who incited murder against the person he has litigated
is most deplorable BUT this is what Ken McVay's Nizkor
does with "exempt donation[s]."
An organization such as Nizkor would not be able to
operate in this manner in the United States
and perhaps this is why Ken McVay left the
United States to operate from Canada!>>

Time will tell. Those interested in finding out why
Nizkor can operate in this manner should contact:
http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/contact/
which is the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency.

Nizkor would not be allowed to operate in the manner
it does in America and perhaps this is why Ken McVay,
director of Nizkor, diverts attention
>from having an American money pot!

[...]

For those who are curious, here the details of

the neutral people behind Mr Mazal:
His above website is registered by the
"San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund" c/o BASIC of
600 Sandau Suite 400,
San Antonio, TX 78216, in Texas, USA.
The billing contact is Mr Harry Mazal of the same address:
San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund c/o BASIC,
600 Sandau, Suite 400, San Antonio, TX 78216,
and their phone number is 210-377-2422.
Somebody might like to check them out in more details.
We will be happy in the spirit of openness to post all
that we are told of these people.
It is the old Nizkor gang at work again.

	~~~~END~~~~

Again- Canadian tax payers- do you wish to subsidize Ken McVay?

					Doc Tavish
---
If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.




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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:22:29 -0700, Leftists = traitors 
wrote:

>On Jul 11, 10:36 pm, "Chom Noamsky"  wrote:
>> Do you think calling for the death of Jews, blacks and retards is stepping
>> over the bounds of what should be tolerated as free speech?

>Let him.  Who cares?  Charging people with crimes should come after
>they either commit them or actively PLAN them.
>Idle talk about them is nothing.  Stifling free speech is the thin
>edge of the wedge.

he does not believe in normal freedoms for people in canada, since he follows
the orders of his puppetmasters.

Warman deserves to be harrassed the same way that he does to others.

Notice that he looks just as faggotty as his sidekick Gay Ken Mcvay!!




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From: Patrick Humpboys 
Newsgroups:
alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power,can.general
Subject: Richard Warman's Song
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:10:01 -0600

Now perhaps if enough people do to Warman what he does to 
innocent civilians, then perhaps he will mend the error of his ways?

Date: 9 Apr 2007 00:35:23 +0200
From: Cyberiade.it Anonymous Remailer 
Subject: Richard Warman's Song

There's a pale horse comin',
And Richie's gonna ride it.
He'll rise in the mornin',
With his fate beside it.

He's a dead Jew walkin'.
He's a dead Jew walkin'.

In Lahr, Germany,
He was born and Christened.
How he got his story,
Mister, there ain't no need for you to listen.

It's just a dead Jew talkin'.

He had a job, he had a boyfriend,
But between his dreams and actions lie this world.

In the deep forest,
Their blood and tears rushed over him.
All he could feel was the drugs and shotgun,
And his fear up inside him.

Like a dead Jew walkin'.

Neath the summer sky his eyes went black,
Sister, he won't ask for forgiveness, his sins are all he has.

Now the clouds above his prison,
Move slowly cross the sky.
There's a new day comin',
And his dreams are full tonight.

To find out more about this communist, scumbag menace to free expression,
just do a Google search on his name. And then pay him a visit:

Richard Warman,
512-440 Wiggins Private,
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K1N 1A7
Phone: (613) 233-2070
E-mail: richardwarman@yahoo.ca
Employer: Bernie "Superkike" Farber, Canadian Jewish Congress
Mugshots of the white nigger can be found here:
http://www.canadianfreespeech.com/updates/warman/warman.html

For more info on the depredations of this slimeball, see:
http://www.canadianfreespeech.com/updates/warman/warman_threatens_to_sue.html



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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>Anonymous Nazi Coward nobody@remailer.paranoici.org said:
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:25:49 -0700, Leftists = traitors wrote:

>> > Lawyer doggedly pursues neo-Nazis using the Internet The result has been a
>> > string of tribunal victories -- and threats Don Butler, CanWest News
>> > Service

>> CanWest - that's all I need to see. The media empire run by the Asper
>> kike.

To find out more about this communist, scumbag menace to free
expression, just do a Google search on his name. And then pay him a
visit:

Richard Warman lives in co-op housing called Co-op Voisins.
Richard Warman
512-440 Wiggins Privee
Ottawa, Ontario K1N 1A7 Canada
Phone: 613-233-2070
The website of his co-op can be found here:
http://www.chaseo.org/voisins/

Aerial photos and map to _512-440 Wiggins Privee_:
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209293_1024.ts1170371065000.jpg
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209298_1024.ts1170371071000.jpg

Encourage your readers to email the co-op and complain about their
resident (he may get kicked out if they get enough complaints)

I believe that the management at the co-op should be aware of the fact
that Richard Warman himself associates with a violent street gang
(ARA) and has previously passed private information on to them. This
street gang has posted Paul Fromm's and other peoples' home addresses
online.

The management can be contacted by email at: voisins@eisa.com

By fax: (613) 565-3050
or by phone: (613) 565-0284

I'm sure that if the people at the co-op realize that Warman's
involvement with this shit may make their building a target (caution.
no direct or veiled threats. there is no need for that) that they
might not want a target living within them.

Hopefully this will get him evicted from his place and give him
something else to worry about for a bit. Or he won't realize what's
going on while he is in the U.S. trying to find a cop that will blow
him.

E-mail: richardwarman@yahoo.ca
Employer: Bernie "Superkike" Farber, Canadian Jewish Congress
Mugshots of the white nigger can be found here:
http://www.canadianfreespeech.com/updates/warman/warman.html

Warman paranoia detailed here:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=44180

Warman Whines: “My Life is In Danger”

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TORONTO. January 30, 2007. More “security” fireworks at the Canadian Human
tribunal investigating Freedomsite webmaster Marc Lemire today. Yelping “my
life is in danger”, the complainant, veteran Sec. 13.1 complaint filer
Richard Warman, demanded that the Tribunal be reconvened just after the it
had broken for lunch.

The apparent cause of the hysteria was a small pamphlet left on several
chairs by another Warman victim Alexan Kulbashian. The pamphlet dealt with
a highly inflammatory and racist posting that the Respondent will prove
through expert testimony was posted by professional anti- racist Warman in
his role as a snoop and troll spying on the websites of Canadian dissidents.

"I'm the masked man, just like my anti's, yeah, like the Lone Ranger- gonna
get all those 'bad Nazis' . I'm a hero, yes I am. Next time, I am NOT going
to be scared in court. Lone Ranger wouldn't be scared in court.."..
photo: http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4214/lonewarmannr7.jpg

The pamphlets which Mr. Kulbashian had left on the chairs of two middle aged
supporters of Marc Lemire had been snatched up by Anita Bomberg. She is a
lawyer for the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith an intervenor or
“interested party” active in this case against Mr. Lemire. She scuttled up and
urgently handed the pamphlets to Mr. Warman. Warman wrote a large part of the
Canadian Internet report section of B’nai Brith’s 2005 Audit of Anti-Semitic
Incidents.

In an obvious flutter and visibly upset, Warman had Tribunal Member (judge)
Athanasios Hadjis summoned back from his car on his way out to lunch.

Waving the offending pamphlet, Mr. Warman insisted “my life is in danger, my
security is threatened.” Alleging that Mr. Kulbashian had posted his home
address on the Internet and denounced him after Warman had filed a Sec. 13.1
complaint against him and several of his websites, Mr. Warman said he felt
threatened by the very presence of Mr. Kulbashian. “Words lead to the
holocaust,” Warman said, his voice rising...

FORUM COMMENTS ON JEWBOY WARMAN'S WHINING:

"Who knows whether he is actually fearful or whether this is just a marketing
ploy and part of his shtick. Anyone that actively campaigns to deny others
their God given natural Rights should be looking over his shoulder."

"Personally, I think it is just a ploy to get sympathy and to get a few more
people arrested."

"Warman is a modern day cleric in the Judaic system, a monk. He thought it
would be fun to ride the cutting edge of the Jew power in Canada and he's
getting a whole new experience."

    "I don’t know why Warwoman is so scared. Just because he is worried about
repercussions for the lives he has ruined?
     He has nothing to fear. Just because white people are known hunters who
can shoot a high powered hunting riffle with accuracy for a few hundred yards.
Just because we blend in so well with everyone around him does not mean he
will get a knife in the diaphragm, or back, or neck by the jogger near his
home when he steps out to get the morning paper. Hell, something
could happen in the restroom at the courthouse. Someone who blends in like
white people do could even tamper with food if Warman goes out to eat.
     Now I am just running over things that might be on Warwoman’s mind, I’m
not saying anyone has plans to do any of these things. If I was out fucking up
peoples lives like this asshat is, I would be very very concerned for my
safety. People can only take so much.
     And Wartman, I know you will be reading this so I will give you some free
advice. Depends are a good product. If I were in your shoes I would be pissing
myself every time a car backfired."

Richard Warman lives in co-op housing called Co-op Voisins.
Richard Warman
512-440 Wiggins Privee
Ottawa, Ontario K1N 1A7 Canada
Phone: 613-233-2070
The website of his co-op can be found here:
http://www.chaseo.org/voisins/

Aerial photos and map to _512-440 Wiggins Privee_:
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209293_1024.ts1170371065000.jpg
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209298_1024.ts1170371071000.jpg



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ADL ZYDS Dislike Methodists' for Divesting From israel

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:24:43 -0600 (MDT), in soc.culture.europe FrankArthur
 wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:32:23 GMT, in soc.culture.jewish "torresdD"
 wrote:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3418316,00.html
Methodists 'bordering anti-Semitism'

ADL Director slams American Christian group for Israel
divestment call

Yaakov Lappin Published:
06.27.07, 16:37 / Israel Jewish Scene

The United Methodist Church's call to divest from companies linked to
Israel "is bordering on anti-Semitism,"

Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman told Ynetnews
on Wednesday.

Foxman furiously condemned recommendations made by the
New England branch of the Methodist Church for its members to divest
"from twenty companies identified as supporting the Israeli occupation
in Palestine."

The recommendations were made by a "task force" of clergy and church
members set up to implement a "resolution to end the Israeli occupation,"
a statement by the Church added.

Foxman, who is currently in Israel, said it was "sad that a religious
institution whose job should be to reconcile continues to be biased
and bigoted."

He added that in the past two years, "there has been a war perpetrated by
Hizbullah, katyushas rockets, and terrorist acts.

Now Hamas, that does not recognize Israel's right to exist and perpetrated
violence, has gotten itself elected, and is in control of a million and a half
Palestinians.

And the Methodists are still there to teach Israel a lesson."

"My reaction is one of outrage to this biased decision,
which borders on anti-Semitism.

The facts show that any decent fair-minded, spiritual, godly person would not
come to a conclusion to boycott the victim, the one that has been praying for
peace, suing for peace, hoping for peace.

To make Israel the target is just outrageous," Foxman added.

In the Church's statement, William P. Aldrich, chairperson
of the 'Divestment Task Force,' was quoted as saying:
"Selective divestment is consistent with the United Methodist commitment
to a just and sustainable peace for all the people of the Middle East."

He added that the divestment campaign
"offers a tangible way of working toward this goal."

In its press release, the Church said it knew its actions would not have an
impact on Israel's economy, adding that "this is not the goal."

"The goal is to make all United Methodists and other Americans aware of their
relationship to companies that benefit from the Israeli occupation," the
statement added.

"The urgency of the humanitarian crisis in the occupied Palestinian
territories cannot be overstated," the United Methodist Church
declared on its website.

Church ackowledges bias

In a separate development, the ADL has welcomed the United
Church of Christ's (UCC) acknowledgment that it has advocated
an unbalanced and one-sided policy against the state of Israel.

The UCC passed a new resolution this week calling for a more
balanced approach to the Middle East conflict.

"We are heartened that members of the United Church of Christ
have come to recognize that Israel deserves a fair hearing and
that some of their policy declarations in the past were based
on unfair and biased assumptions," Foxman said.

"It is a welcome development, and the start of a healthy process
toward a better understanding of a very complex and complicated
history," he added.


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PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
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On 4 July 2007 a Judge Ian Kirkpatrick threw out the case against Edmonton cop
Jan Cichon for criminally assaulting Raymond Anderson.

The witness, Andewrson, was in fact in a provincial jail, and could easily
have been delivered to the court.

Now the Attorney General and Solicitor General are being asked to appeal the
dismissal.

Justice must not only be done, but must be seen to be done!!

It seems that in Alberta crooked cops get preferential treatment.

This same cop Cichon is also being charged in a civil lawsuit for $45,000,
for another similar criminal assault. 
The charges are by actor Dakota House star of North of 60.

No wonder people no longer have any respect for the rogue cops of Deadmonton.


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On 4 July 2007 a Judge Ian Kirkpatrick threw out the case against Edmonton 
cop Jan Cichon for criminally assaulting Raymond Anderson, because the
prosecution and the cops had not bothered to produce the victim!!

The witness, Anderson, was in fact in a provincial jail, and could easily 
have been delivered to the court.

Now the Attorney General and Solicitor General are being asked to 
appeal the dismissal.

Justice must not only be done, but must be seen to be done!!

It seems that in Alberta crooked cops get preferential treatment.

This same cop Cichon is also being charged in a civil lawsuit for $45,000,
for another similar criminal assault. 
The charges are by actor Dakota House star of North of 60.

No wonder people no longer have any respect for the rogue cops of Deadmonton.


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On Thu, 31 May 2007 15:35:10 GMT, MattKern 
wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:06:59 GMT, "Leon Trollski"  wrote:
>>"Bob Loblaw"  wrote in message
>>news:GNqLf.65797$H%4.18710@pd7tw2no...

>>with pay???  This is disgusting.

>The 2 low level cops Bell and Nesbitt were arrested, and charged in connection 
>with the $437,000 in bribes documented.
>They are the ones now on paid holidays!

But what about their crooked BOSS, the one who gave the orders, 
and presumably got MORE THAN THE $437,000?!!
The junior cops did not have the authority to sign the contracts, 
only the chief did!!

See from the Journal that the charges against the 2 cops were quietly dropped
in June.

Guess this is just another scandal involving crooked Edmonton cops.



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>On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, "Venceremos"  wrote:

>>The Accusations

>>     Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>>     Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
>>     British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
>>     escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
>>     February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

>>     I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
>>     I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
>>     deeds of the war.

>>     While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still
>>     on my arm

>>     Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
>>     uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

>>     Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

>>     Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>     little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>>     when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>>     (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

>>     These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>>     published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>>     "I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
>>     commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
>>     in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
>>     future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
>>     directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>     political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>     authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

>>     This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>>     lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
>>     Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
>>     collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>     hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
>>     Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
>>     camps, the price...was not too high for me.

>>     "...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
>>     Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
>>     While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
>>     another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
>>     with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>     he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>>     "Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
>>     a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

>>     "As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
>>     between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
>>     immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>>     would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>>     blood to achieve his political goal...
>>     'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
>>     this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
>>     service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
>>     would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>     concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>>     That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
>>     (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

>>     Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
>>     do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
>>     money and military equipment."

>>     Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>     According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
>>     When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
>>     citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
>>     Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
>>     views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>>     official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
>>     Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
>>     of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>     -88-

>KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

>Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER, 
>and RUMKOWSKI!!
>The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

>Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi 
>GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


>On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer  wrote:

>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest.......

>>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>>Date: 1997/07/12

>>The Kastner Case

>>Introduction

>>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>>and will show that on this question 'The documentation available is
>>overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks
>>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>>most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>>3CR for anti-semitism.

>>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>>what Kastner was accused of.

>>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>>been unable to find out what it is all about.

>>The Accusations

>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>>he wrote:

>>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>>Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>>of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there.

>>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>>not too high for me.

>>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)

>>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>>The Verdict

>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>>backfire on the censors themselves.

>>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.

>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>>the Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.

>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.

>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.

>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.

>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>>expensively if honorably guided.

>>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.

>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.

>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?

>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.

>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from the book of the living.

>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.

>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>>to another."

>>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>>General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>>"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.

>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.

>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.

>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.

>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>>the good intention of good Becher'.

>>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>>Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>>in Nuremberg.

>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements." (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.

>>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>>matter.

>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.

>>But the story does not end there.

>>The Reaction

>>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>>now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.

>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:

>>"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)

>>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
>>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

>>"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>>defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).

>>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:

>>"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>>defense." (23 June 1955)

>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.

>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>> disclose." (23 June 1955)

>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.

>>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
>>*Ma'ariv*:

>>"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>>of our history!

>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)

>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand here
>>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>>representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p. 268)

>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.

>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.

>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.

>>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>>court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>rehabilitated'.

>>The Majority Judgement

>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.

>>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>>totally missing the point.

>>Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>>Kastner.
>>They JOINED him.

>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:

>>"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>>'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>>protocol 465).

>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which on can
>>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

>>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a moral and public point of view...

>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger....

>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.

>>The Minority Judgement

>>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

>>"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others....

>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.'

>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>>bribery, etc - and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a claim of such good faith...

>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...

>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
>>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.

>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.

>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

>>Conclusion

>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration with the Nazis.

>>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the 'dragging in
>>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships'.

>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.

>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>>being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.

>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.

>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.

>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>>'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, 'now dead'. Or
>>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>>Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>>before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
>>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>>secret service.
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
>>admitted in court during the murder trial).

>>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>>dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
>>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>>at least as an insurance policy.

>>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>>existed.
>>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.

>>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

>>We shall go on to prove this in detail.

>>Elias Davidsson - Oldugata 50 - 101 Reykjavik - Iceland
>>Tel. (354)-552-6444     Fax: (354)-552-6579
>>Email: edavid@itn.is     URL:  http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
or to Steve Horn ,
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.



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>Anonymous nobody@remailer.paranoici.org said:
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:25:49 -0700, Leftists = traitors wrote:

>> > Lawyer doggedly pursues neo-Nazis using the Internet 
>> > The result has been astring of tribunal victories -- and threats 
>> > Don Butler, CanWest NewsService

>> CanWest - that's all I need to see. The media empire run by the Asper
>> kike.

To find out more about this communist, scumbag menace to free
expression, just do a Google search on his name. 
And then pay him a visit:

Richard Warman lives in co-op housing called Co-op Voisins.
Richard Warman
512-440 Wiggins Privee
Ottawa, Ontario K1N 1A7 Canada
Phone: 613-233-2070
The website of his co-op can be found here:
http://www.chaseo.org/voisins/

Aerial photos and map to _512-440 Wiggins Privee_:
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209293_1024.ts1170371065000.jpg
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209298_1024.ts1170371071000.jpg

Encourage your readers to email the co-op and complain about their
resident (he may get kicked out if they get enough complaints)

I believe that the management at the co-op should be aware of the 
fact that Richard Warman himself associates with a violent street gang
(ARA) and has previously passed private information on to them. 
This street gang has posted Paul Fromm's and other peoples' home 
addresses online.

The management can be contacted by email at: voisins@eisa.com

By fax: (613) 565-3050
or by phone: (613) 565-0284

I'm sure that if the people at the co-op realize that Warman's
involvement with this shit may make their building a target 
(caution. no direct or veiled threats. there is no need for that) 
that they might not want a target living within them.

Hopefully this will get him evicted from his place and give him
something else to worry about for a bit. Or he won't realize 
what's going on while he is in the U.S. trying to find a cop
that will blow him.

E-mail: richardwarman@yahoo.ca
Employer: Bernie "Superkike" Farber, Canadian Jewish Congress
Mugshots of the white nigger can be found here:
http://www.canadianfreespeech.com/updates/warman/warman.html

Warman paranoia detailed here:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=44180

Warman Whines: “My Life is In Danger”

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

TORONTO. January 30, 2007. More “security” fireworks at the Canadian 
Human Rights tribunal investigating Freedomsite webmaster Marc Lemire today.
Yelping “my life is in danger”, the complainant, veteran Sec. 13.1 complaint
filer Richard Warman, demanded that the Tribunal be reconvened just after 
it had broken for lunch.

The apparent cause of the hysteria was a small pamphlet left on several
chairs by another Warman victim Alexan Kulbashian. The pamphlet dealt 
with a highly inflammatory and racist posting that the Respondent will prove
through expert testimony was posted by professional anti- racist Warman in
his role as a snoop and troll spying on the websites of Canadian dissidents.

"I'm the masked man, just like my anti's, yeah, like the Lone Ranger- gonna
get all those 'bad Nazis' . I'm a hero, yes I am. Next time, I am NOT going
to be scared in court. Lone Ranger wouldn't be scared in court.."..
photo: http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4214/lonewarmannr7.jpg

The pamphlets which Mr. Kulbashian had left on the chairs of two middle aged
supporters of Marc Lemire had been snatched up by Anita Bomberg. She is a
lawyer for the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith an intervenor or
“interested party” active in this case against Mr. Lemire. She scuttled up and
urgently handed the pamphlets to Mr. Warman. Warman wrote a large part of the
Canadian Internet report section of B’nai Brith’s 2005 Audit of Anti-Semitic
Incidents.

In an obvious flutter and visibly upset, Warman had Tribunal Member (judge)
Athanasios Hadjis summoned back from his car on his way out to lunch.

Waving the offending pamphlet, Mr. Warman insisted “my life is in danger, my
security is threatened.” Alleging that Mr. Kulbashian had posted his home
address on the Internet and denounced him after Warman had filed a Sec. 13.1
complaint against him and several of his websites, Mr. Warman said he felt
threatened by the very presence of Mr. Kulbashian. “Words lead to the
holocaust,” Warman said, his voice rising...

FORUM COMMENTS ON JEWBOY WARMAN'S WHINING:

"Who knows whether he is actually fearful or whether this is just a marketing
ploy and part of his shtick. Anyone that actively campaigns to deny others
their God given natural Rights should be looking over his shoulder."

"Personally, I think it is just a ploy to get sympathy and to get a few more
people arrested."

"Warman is a modern day cleric in the Judaic system, a monk. He thought it
would be fun to ride the cutting edge of the Jew power in Canada and he's
getting a whole new experience."

    "I don’t know why Warwoman is so scared. Just because he is worried about
repercussions for the lives he has ruined?
     He has nothing to fear. Just because white people are known hunters who
can shoot a high powered hunting riffle with accuracy for a few hundred yards.
Just because we blend in so well with everyone around him does not mean he
will get a knife in the diaphragm, or back, or neck by the jogger near his
home when he steps out to get the morning paper. Hell, something
could happen in the restroom at the courthouse. Someone who blends in like
white people do could even tamper with food if Warman goes out to eat.
     Now I am just running over things that might be on Warwoman’s mind, I’m
not saying anyone has plans to do any of these things. If I was out fucking up
peoples lives like this asshat is, I would be very very concerned for my
safety. People can only take so much.
     And Wartman, I know you will be reading this so I will give you some free
advice. Depends are a good product. If I were in your shoes I would be pissing
myself every time a car backfired."

Richard Warman lives in co-op housing called Co-op Voisins.
Richard Warman
512-440 Wiggins Privee
Ottawa, Ontario K1N 1A7 Canada
Phone: 613-233-2070
The website of his co-op can be found here:
http://www.chaseo.org/voisins/

Aerial photos and map to _512-440 Wiggins Privee_:
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209293_1024.ts1170371065000.jpg
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209298_1024.ts1170371071000.jpg



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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:12:32 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:34:52 GMT, Carter ,  in wrote:
>>Jeff Rainer wrote:

>>>> Have seen nothing in any of the above which changes my basic premise,
>>>> i.e. if a sentence of "life" really meant life it would take killers
>>>> away from preying on society while also guarding against their being
>>>> executed if later evidence found them to be innocent. DP should remain
>>>> for those who kill police officers or prison guards.

>>> Why is the life of a cop or prison guard more valuable than the life of 
>>> another citizen?

>>It has nothing to do with the value of life.  It recognizes that 
>>to kill someone in authority is a more serious offence than to 
>>kill someone who has no authority over the killer.

>>Carter

Cops do NOT deserve special consideration, any more than do any 
other humans killed.

Killers of cops deserve the DP, the same as do crooked politicians, 
drug dealers, AIDS-spreaderes and similar vermin!!

Go back to law of Hamurabi - an eye for an eye!



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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:18:59 -0600, "TopPoster..." 
wrote:

Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous

Kenneth McVay has nothing else to do with his time. He is an unemployable 
bum with a criminal record, and mentally useless.


Mind you, he was employed for a few months as a gas station attendant, until
customers complained.

For full details about the unsavoury background of Mcvay, be sure to read the
Dr. Michael files about McVay.


> Greg P Carr  wrote:
>>Give it up.  No is going to believe your lies.
>>On Mar 28, 7:11 am, Rob Welldumb 
>>wrote:



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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:59:00 +0100, in soc.culture.europe "Baba­Bey the Turk"
 wrote:

How Israeli spies in the U.S. and Canada and their helpers (sayanim) try 
to silence and censor authors and researchers. Here's an example:

http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/1097/9710037.html
 "
Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, October/November 1997, Page 37 

Bookburners and Their Victims 

First-Hand Accounts of Pro-Israel McCarthyism: When Israel's Mossad 
Set Out to 'Break' Me, It Found Its Helpers Here at Home

by Victor Ostrovsky

"We will get to him by other means, we will break him economically," 
stated the chief of the Mossad, Israel's CIA, to a Knesset committee after 
the failure of the government of Israel's attempt to ban publication of my 
first book, By Way of Deception, in the U.S. and Canada. This statement, 
made on camera, was purposefully leaked to an Israeli reporter and 
printed in the weekend addition of Ma'ariv, Israel's leading daily 
newspaper, with the military censor's approval. Since that day, Israel's 
foreign intelligence agency has waged a war of attrition against me with 
the enthusiastic cooperation of its cabal of North American Zionist 
organizations. 

For years as a Canadian-born, Israel-raised former Mossad caseworker I 
was unwilling to accept the possibility of a wide conspiracy against me. 
After all, my book had finally been published. What more harm could I do 
to the country I had left in disgust to return to the land of my birth. Only 
hitting rock bottom has finally jolted me out of this state of innocence-
and optimism that a change of luck is just around the corner. I'm now 
convinced that I am the target of a broad collusion between elements of 
the Israeli government and their gofers, mostly in the American Jewish 
community. 

Following publication of my By Way of Deception I wrote a spy novel, Lion 
of Judah, using the spycraft I'd learned with the Mossad as background. 
The book described a fictional Mossad operation aimed at thwarting a 
secret peace process underway in the Middle East. (The book was written 
and published before the real-life, year-long secret negotiations that led to 
the Oslo accord came to light.) 

In the book I revealed considerably more about Mossad techniques than I 
had in By Way of Deception. But, despite the wide publicity garnered by 
my first book due to the Israeli government's unsuccessful effort to 
suppress it, my second book was ignored. 

Radio and television interviews that were scheduled by my publisher were 
canceled almost as soon as they were booked. A speaker's bureau in 
Toronto, which seldom had trouble arranging speaking engagements with 
student and other groups eager to have me as a speaker, found that the 
engagements were cancelled before I could appear. In fact, the 
cancellations occurred each time a local B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation 
League (ADL) chapter got wind of them, and they always did. 

But, of course, the less I spoke, the more time I had to write. In 1995, 
when my third book, The Other Side of Deception, another work of non-
fiction, was published, the efforts against me were stepped up. 

So, on Oct. 21, 1995, I was surprised to be invited by Canadian 
Television (CTV) producer Ron Fine to do a guest appearance on 
"Canada AM," the widely viewed Canadian version of "Good Morning 
America." Scheduled to appear on the same program, via satellite from 
Israel, was Israeli journalist Yosef Lapid, the former head of Israeli 
television. 

An Appeal to Murder

Lapid had earned his 14 minutes of North American media fame by 
appealing openly on the Israeli television show "Popolitica" for the 
Mossad to seek me out in Canada and kill me for writing my books. He 
had followed this with an article making the same appeal in the Tel Aviv 
daily Ma'ariv headlined "By Virtue of Murder" (see accompanying 
translation). 

On cue, Lapid repeated, as I listened, his call for my assassination on the 
Canadian television show, but this time with a twist. He said that, since 
Israel's Mossad could not kill me in Canada without causing a diplomatic 
incident, "I hope that there would be a decent Jew in Canada who would 
do the job for us." 

My reaction was horror mixed with relief. Now it was going to be hard for 
media gatekeepers to pretend that there were not "ugly Israelis" every bit 
as vicious and fanatical as the Iranian ayatollah who had called for the 
assassination in Britain by a British Muslim of author Salman Rushdie. 

Along with the producers of the show, a large percentage of the Canadian 
public had just seen for themselves a former Israeli government official 
calling upon Canadian Jews to murder me on Canadian soil for the books 
I had written. But, to my astonishment, there seemed no inclination by the 
Canadian media to follow up the story when it was an Israeli rather than 
an Iranian inciting the murder of a published author. I had never felt more 
alone and isolated in my life. 

My spirits brightened when a reporter from USA Today viewed the tape of 
the "Canada AM" show and was outraged. "I'm going to write a story 
about this," he declared, and proceeded to interview me for over an hour. 
Then, while I was still in his office, his editor told him by telephone to
kill 
the article. "It's not a story," the editor said. The silence surrounding me 
intensified. 

It was a year later that Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was 
assassinated by a right-wing zealot who got his legitimization for murder 
>from an extremist rabbi and his marching orders from the likes of Lapid. If 
by Lapid's rules I should be killed according to his category "D" (see 
accompanying article), in the eyes of Yigal Amir, Rabin's assassin, so 
should Rabin. I have no doubt in my mind that all those like Lapid who 
make their own rules as to who may live and who must die are partners in 
Rabin's murder. 

A radio host named Tim Kern from a station in Denver, Colorado, called 
me up for an interview. Several days later he sent a file on me he had 
received from the "Mountain state regional office of the Anti-Defamation 
League of B'nai B'rith." The ADL communication suggested that the 
station drop the interview, claiming that I am an unreliable subject. This 
sequence was repeated over and over at radio and television stations in 
the United States and Canada. Ironically, supposedly separate Jewish 
organizations around the United States kept coming up with the same 
wording in their efforts to shut me up. 

The same people who presumably would praise someone from the CIA or 
the U.S. armed forces who exposed serious wrongdoing in those 
institutions were now hard at work to smother my criticisms of an 
intelligence agency for a foreign country that, to put it as charitably as 
possible, does not have America's best interests at heart. The Americans 
who call me a traitor to Israel for exposing the Mossad's efforts to kill the 
peace process hail as a hero Jonathan Pollard, a traitor to the U.S. who 
spied on the American government for Israel. 

In an attempt to break the vicious cycle, I decided to sue in a Canadian 
court Yosef Lapid for inciting my murder and "Canada AM" for airing his 
incitement to the public. I assumed that bringing the issue to public 
attention would expose the attempts of organizations in both the U.S. and 
Canada that in fact are agents of Israel to suppress the truth through 
intimidation and, if necessary, economic or physical terrorism. 

After accepting a hefty retainer and completing the preparations for trial, 
my lawyer, Paul B. Kane of Perley-Robertson, Panet, Hill and McDougall 
in Ottawa, Canada, informed me that he could not continue with the case. 
His explanation was that the safety of his staff would clearly be 
jeopardized if he proceeded. 

Then HarperCollins, my publisher, informed me it was keeping the last 
portion of my advance, some $46,000, against advertising. I pointed out 
that since this was something I had never agreed to, they had no right to 
do it. "Sue us," was their response. 

At the same time, my daughter, a television producer, was denied a job 
she had been offered in a Vancouver television station after its Toronto 
head office learned of her relationship to me. 

Then my Canadian publisher, Stoddart, informed me it had decided not to 
publish my newest spy novel, Dominion of Treason, and also that it was 
holding back all monies coming to me from By Way of Deception and Lion 
of Judah. 

Meanwhile I had suggested to my agent in Toronto a new (fifth) book on 
the American militia movement. I proposed to interview supporters of the 
movement to ascertain their motivations, and then define the movement 
in terms of its members rather than simply labeling them as the enemy 
and shutting the door on them. I believe the growth of misunderstanding 
and mistrust within a nation, and particularly between regions as is the 
case between America's Eastern seaboard on the one hand and its 
Midwest and Far West on the other, is courting disaster. 

My agent was enthusiastic about the proposed project. We called it We 
the People. For several months he told me how this proposed book was 
being received in literary circles of New York. Then he dropped out of 
sight, and I have not been able to make contact with him to this day. I 
know he is in his office and doing business, but he will not return my calls. 

In 1996, a new, New York-based agent struck a light at the end of a very 
long, dark tunnel. Regnery Inc., a Washington-based publisher, signed a 
contract with me for a tongue-in-cheek guide to espionage called The Spy 
Game. They had some suggestions, however, for making the book more 
serious on the grounds that readers don't regard spying as a laughing 
matter. 

As I was in the final stages of the first draft, however, my house burned to 
the ground. The fire marshal's report declared it arson. No one was hurt, 
since we had moved out several weeks earlier and I was using only one 
room in the house for writing. Luckily, aside from the house itself, very 
little was lost-only my computer and several boxes of documents. 

As I was sifting through the ashes of what used to be my bedroom, 
however, I realized things were starting to get out of hand. By then, under 
the Likud government of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, both the 
Israeli ambassador to the U.S. and the Israeli ambassador to Canada 
were former Mossad officers. I couldn't identify the perpetrators of the fire,
or blame it on one group or another, but it was clear to me that those who 
had vowed to break me "economically" were becoming more 
confrontational and taking greater risks. 

After several days of soul-searching I realized I could no longer allow my 
wife, who had stood by me through thick and thin, to remain in the line of 
fire. This was my battle, my choice. Knowing full well she would not 
abandon me, as almost everyone else had, I told her I needed to be 
alone, to sort out things for myself. 

Our separation lasted several weeks. But we both realized we couldn't 
remain apart. 

So I wasted no more time and re-wrote The Spy Game, having kept my 
notes on Regnery's suggested revisions with me. The work on the book 
was moving along well, and most of the editing had already been 
completed. The publisher, through his project editor, asked that I add a 
chapter on espionage and the Internet and also bring in some 
biographical material on myself. I complied and he expressed his 
satisfaction in a letter to me. 

On July 9 of this year the Regnery publicity department faxed me a copy 
of their catalog page depicting my book, slated to be released in October. 
One day later, on July 10, 1997, I received a letter from Regnery 
informing me that the company had decided not to publish my book. I felt 
as though I had been hit by a freight train. 

It suddenly occurred to me, for the first time, that the forces of racism, 
bigotry and apartheid may win, even here in North America. In calling out, 
finally, for help, I suddenly fear that I may only be shouting into the wind. 

To all who believe that "it can't happen here," I say beware. 

It is immensely satisfying to take a stand and speak out against coercion 
and tyranny. But eventually there may be a price to pay. 

And when that day comes, and the bill is handed out, you may find that 
although your friends cherish you, they may choose to do it from a 
distance. I wonder now if the thousands who have called and written still 
think of me as a prophet and a hero, or only as a fool? 


Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad caseworker in Israel, is author of By 
Way of Deception and The Other Side of Deception about his personal 
observations within Israel's external security service. Both books are 
listed in the AET Book Club Catalog.
"




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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:07:34 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:
>Jew/ZYD  taxes on grocery items - Repost
>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:54:46 -0600
>Message-ID: 

Frank Arthur is to be commended for posting this truthful expose 
of the KOSHER TAX.

>On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:17:56 GMT, in can.politics LordTweedsmuir
> wrote:

>On 24 Jul 2005 14:33:54 -0700, gordonv8@hotmail.com wrote:

>>Jewish taxation without Gentile representation

>>"A hypothesis(?) that readily springs to mind from the above
>>revelations is that what we have stumbled upon here is a Jewish tax on
>>food which appears to have spread throughout the kitchen to non-food
>>items so as to become a Jewish tax on food plus kitchen products, and
>>from there made its way to the laundry room so as to become a Jewish
>>tax on food plus kitchen products plus laundry products, and from there
>>metastacized to the medicine cabinet so as to become a Jewish tax on
>>food plus kitchen products plus laundry products plus over-the-counter
>>medications.  And the question that the above revelations urgently
>>presses upon consciousness is how much this Jewish tax - if it may be
>>so described - costs the average Canadian household each year.  Ten
>>dollars?  A hundred dollars?  A thousand dollars?  What?  Why don't we
>>know?  Why is there no way to find out?  Why isn't this a matter of
>>public record?"

>>Many graphics of grocery items on this page, click below:

>>http://www.ukar.org/tax02.html

>>Faster download, less graphics on (this) prior page:

>>http://www.ukar.org/ronen01.html

>Subject: KOSHER TAX Ripoff-HEINZ/Libby Dumps,Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>MORE!

>On 27 Sep 2004 15:50:36 -0000, ErnstZundel  wrote:
>
>Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
>Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>qualified to do...

>Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!

>>From: norma2339@charter.net
>>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>>"veranda"  wrote in message 
>>news:...
>>> > >     veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since  it
>>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .
>
>>> > >     The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost
>
>>>  wrote in message
>>> news:9abc4e06.0304010305.50dc870e@posting.google.com...
>>> > What duplication?  It is a symbol on the container and the cost  would
>>> > not change in any way.  This "paranoia" is silly.
>
>>veranda : what 'paranoia' ?? we are talking about saving money .
>>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>>you knew that !
>>Kosher is Israel's food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>>we got our own  !  :)
>
>>Well, to set the record straight.  The Rabbinate council that approves
>>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>>doesn't really care.  It is not an item by item thing.  With the
>>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>>day.)
>
>>What would it save you--less than $10 a year.
>
>>All countries have their own Rabbinate Councils, so don't think that it
>>is just Canada with their own.  Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>>have demanded more money?
>
>>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>>couldn't make any money either.
>
>
>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin  wrote:
>
>>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!
>
>>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>>by
>>Ernesto Cienfuegos
>>La Voz de Aztlan
>
>>Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>>receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers
>>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>>attention.
>>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>>of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can be found
>>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>>do some research into the subject. What we found
>>certainly was "news" to us and it both shocked and angered us.
>
>>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>>container, the Trader Joe's tea box and even the Glads plastic
>>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.
>
>>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>>that the mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher".
>
>>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and
>>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher"
>>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>>products.
>
>>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>>receive protection.
>>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>>other similar markings.
>
>>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>>sophisticated "Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the
>>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>>in New York City.
>
>>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>
>>The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>>certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>
>>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.
>
>>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>>up to "inspect" the company's operations.
>>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>>lucrative salaries.
>
>>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>>it now.
>
>>Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will
>>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>>certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee"
>>or "kosher plastic sandwich bags".
>>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>>other non-Jewish people?
>>* * * * * * * * * * * *
>
>>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!
>
>>>>Further to the article below, today's Southam newspapers
>>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>>all Heinz products.
>
>>>>Heinz declared this was done " to keep costs down" according
>>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.
>
>>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>>including those sold under the Libby's label.
>
>>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>>Orthodox Rabbis).
>
>>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!
>
>
>>>>From: tyler 
>>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>>consumers
>>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT
>
>>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers
>
>>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>>proof is easily found.
>
>>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.
>
>
>>>>The following has been snipped from:
>
>>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm
>
>>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.
>
>>>>The website explains:
>
>>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>>close investigation and supervision.
>
>>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.
>
>>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.
>
>>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.
>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>>>>The cost is minimal to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>>that!
>
>>>>...and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>>annual sales of the product.
>
>>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>>friends and neighbours if they  know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>>Jewish, they won't have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>>because something is certified.
>
>>>>tyler
>>>>the consumer watchdog!!!
>
>As to what those markings mean: 
>
>The letter "K" simply means "Kosher." Kosher, in Hebrew, means fit or proper, 
>and is generally used to describe foods that are prepared in accordance with 
>special Jewish dietary laws. These laws are stringent and almost 
>incomprehensible to those not versed in them. 
>
>The small "u" in a circle or ("OU") stands for the Union of Orthodox Jewish 
>Congregations and shows that the food underwent rabbinical supervision in its 
>preparation. (An "OUD" marking shows that the package contains dairy products,
>while an "OUM" indicates the presence of meat.) 
>
>"Parve" (also "pareve") is Yiddish for "neutral." The presence of this word on
>packaging signifies that the contents of the package contain neither milk nor 
>meat and thus can be combined with other ingredients in recipes. (Jewish 
>dietary law forbids the mixing of meat and dairy, thus a packaged food that 
>contained cheese could not be combined with, say, hamburger.) 
>
>This variety of markings used on packaged foods alert consumers that items 
>contained therein either meet the strict dietary constraints imposed by
>Judaism 
>on its followers or that the contents of the package can be mixed with other 
>foods or can touch them. Not all Jews keep kosher, nor even among those who do
>are the strictures always adhered to rigorously, but those determined upon 
>being truly pious are aided in this endeavor by the presence of those
>markings. 
>The devout go so far as to maintain two separate sets of utensils, cookware, 
>and cutting surfaces so that meat and dairy never encounter one another in 
>their kitchens. It is for their benefit that otherwise puzzling kosher 
>certifications on non-foodstuff items are there (e.g., certifications are 
>placed upon dishwashing liquid because dishes used for dairy cannot be washed 
>using a soap made from animal fats). 
>
>Less observant Jews do not bother themselves overly much about the kosherness 
>of everyday items; they avoid the out-and-out no-nos such as pork and
>shellfish 
>but don't lose much sleep over the animal fat content of their washing-up 
>liquid, nor do they fret that cold cuts might now be resting upon a plate that
>had months earlier been used to serve cheese. The proponents of the "Jewish 
>Secret Tax" slander often assert that a sub rosa Jewish cabal forces large 
>companies to comply via the threat of a nationwide boycott, backed by the 
>underlying presumption that all Jews can be marshalled into turning their
>backs 
>on products that fail to display kosher certification marks. That is not the 
>case ? Jews buy and use non-kosher items too, so although lack of kosher 
>certification keeps the ultra-conservative crowd from buying certain products,
>it doesn't prevent the less stringent from making such purchases, nor would a 
>"don't buy that because it's not kosher" directive have much effect even if 
>there were a secret Jewish cabal to issue it. 
>
>Those seeking kosher certification for their products have to adhere to kosher
>practices through the manufacturing process, use only kosher ingredients, and 
>have their facilities regularly vetted by qualified inspectors. Kosher 
>certification companies do charge for this service, which is the backbone of 
>the "secret tax" claim ? it costs money to obtain and maintain kosher 
>certification, thus this is an extra expense a manufacturer must bear if he's 
>determined upon having that certification. Where the rumor and reality part 
>ways, however, is where the money goes. Fees paid to kosher certification 
>companies go to keeping those businesses afloat with the profits siphoned off 
>by those companies' owners; they do not flow off into some special Jewish fund
>used to advance Zionist causes. These are businesses, not charities, and those
>who run them do so with every expectation of making a living, in the same 
>manner that someone who owns a hardware store does so with the notion of
>making 
>enough from the endeavor to support himself and his family. 
>
>Does certification add to the price of a product? Certainly, but the amount is
>miniscule, especially compared to the advertising, packaging, shipping, 
>research, testing, admin and finance-related costs, and a myriad of other 
>components that contribute to the process of bringing a product to market or 
>making it better appeal to consumers. One might as well rail against the costs
>associated with selecting the ink colors and style of lettering used on a 
>package ? it's all legitimate business expense, even though no one ever rails 
>against the "Secret Red Ink Conspiracy" or rants about the "Helvetica Font 
>Tax." 
>
>Barbara "heading for Helvetica in a handbasket" Mikkelson 
>
>Additional information: 
>
>    	    A Kosher Primer 
>    (Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America) 	
>
>Last updated:   24 May 2002 
>  
>The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/kosher.htm
>
>
>Harry Mazal  wrote:
>  
>> Heinz/Libby held a press conference, to tell the world the truth.
>> Canadian Jewish News published articles detailing the situation, and
>> complaining about the fact that some of the ZHID groups would not be getting
>> the many millions of dollars from Heinz.
>
>> Which is more reliable, Heinz and the newspaper, or you, you snivelling rat?
>
>> On 1 Sep 2005 14:53:43 -0700, sheldon@liberman.com wrote:
>> >GeorgeF wrote:
>> >> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>> >> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>> >> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!
>
>> >> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
>> >> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
>> >> part-time job!!
>
>> >> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
>> >> extortion tax!!
>
>> >> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>> >> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>> >> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>> >> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
>> >> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>> >> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>> >> qualified to do...
>
>> >> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>> >> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>> >> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!
>
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>Posted by: 
>Patrick Lee Humphrey
>7500 Bellerive #1807
>Houston, Texas 77036-3040
>1-713-266-7764
>
>Steven Horn (KCOM)
>1836 NW 11th St
>Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>(405) 524-0576
>
>together with
>Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
>Henry 
>CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
>VISIT me at:
>55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
>and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.
>
>Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>
>Reply-To: Frank Arthur 
>or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.
>
>~~



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On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 04:11:18 GMT, "Greg Carr"  wrote:
>"jimjames5417"  wrote in message 
>news:1184543364.837950.10080@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 15, 5:57 pm, robertpeff...@aol.com wrote:
>>> Angus Reid Global Monitor : Polls & Research
>>> Canadians Want Sexual Orientation in Charter
>>> February 13, 2007

>>> (Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Most Canadians believe sexual
>>> orientation rights are just as important as other existing rights,
>>> according to a poll by SES Research. 62 per cent of respondents would
>>> approve of the inclusion of sexual orientation equality rights in the
>>> Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

>Change the Constitution so that homosexuality is a death penalty crime along 
>with rape and bestiality. Glad to see that despite decades of being told 
>that being homosexual is ok by the media and the education system and most 
>politicians as well as Anglican and United church leaders among others that 
>38% reject protecting their equality rights. End same-sex marriage. I 
>thought the declining birth rate was a concern for some. This is not  a step 
>in the right direction to solve that problem.

Good on you, Greg.
Not only jail the perverts and AIDS-spreaders.

Faggots are good for incineration as well.


>>> Additionally, 54 per cent of respondents think the courts, and not
>>> Parliament, should have the final decision on the topic of rights
>>> issues.

>>> In 1977, Quebec became the first jurisdiction in Canada to amend the
>>> province's Charter of Human Rights to include sexual orientation as a
>>> prohibited ground for discrimination.

>No surprise it has the lowest birth rate.

Fags do not reproduce, because they are more involved in spreading diseases.

>>> In July 2005, Canada legalized same-sex marriage. The legislation
>>> covers civil ceremonies, and states that no members of the clergy
>>> would be forced to perform a same-sex wedding unless they so desire.
>>> More than 12,000 marriage licenses have been issued to gay and lesbian
>>> couples in Canada.

>total lie. Barely a thousand have been issued and the first ABOMINATION 
>marriage ended in divorce since they couldn't handle the pressure.

>>> In December 2006, the Canadian government-headed by Conservative prime
>>> minister Stephen Harper-introduced a motion which sought to "restore
>>> the traditional definition of marriage without affecting civil unions,
>>> and while respecting existing same-sex marriages." The motion was
>>> rejected in a 175-123 House of Commons vote.

>Too bad. Try again. This time affecting civil unions and not respecting 
>existing same-sex marriages as well.

>>> Polling Data

>>> As you may know, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms includes equality
>>> rights based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion,
>>> sex, age and mental or physical disability. Do you support or oppose
>>> adding sexual orientation to the equality rights section of the
>>> Charter?

>Against.

>>> Support
>>>  62%

>>> Oppose
>>>  29%
>>>
>>> Unsure
>>>  9%
>>>
>>> In your opinion, should the courts or Parliament have the final
>>> decision related to rights issues?
>>>
>>> Courts
>>>  54%
>>>
>>> Parliament
>>>  31%
>>>
>>> Unsure
>>>  15%

>Courts but then the politicians appoint them and enact the Constitution and 
>the laws.
>>
>> Source: SES Research
>>> Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,002 Canadian adults,
>>> conducted from Nov. 5 to Nov. 9, 2006. Margin of error is 3.1 per cent.




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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:55:06 -0700, in can.general Frank Arthur
 wrote:

Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING!
Proof!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering
activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
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http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
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Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
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Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant



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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, "Venceremos"  wrote:

>The Accusations

>     Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>     Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
>     British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
>     escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
>     February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

>     I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
>     I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
>     deeds of the war.

>     While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still
>     on my arm

>     Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
>     uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

>     Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

>     Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>     little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>     when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>     (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

>     These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>     published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>     "I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
>     commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
>     in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
>     future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
>     directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>     political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>     authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

>     This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>     lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
>     Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
>     collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>     hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
>     Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
>     camps, the price...was not too high for me.

>     "...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
>     Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
>     While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
>     another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
>     with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>     he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>     "Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
>     a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

>     "As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
>     between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
>     immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>     would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>     blood to achieve his political goal...
>     'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
>     this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
>     service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
>     would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>     concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>     That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
>     (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

>     Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
>     do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
>     money and military equipment."

>     Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>     According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
>     When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
>     citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
>     Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
>     views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>     official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
>     Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
>     of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>     -88-

KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER, 
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi 
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer  wrote:

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest.......

>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12

>The Kastner Case
>-----------------

>Introduction

>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question 'The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.

>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.

>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>----------------
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>------------
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another."
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher'.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements." (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>-------------
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense." (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>
>"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose." (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma'ariv*:
>
>"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>rehabilitated'.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>-------------------------
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view...
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>--------------------------
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others....
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.'
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc - and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith...
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>-----------
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the 'dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships'.
>
>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, 'now dead'. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Elias Davidsson - Oldugata 50 - 101 Reykjavik - Iceland
>Tel. (354)-552-6444     Fax: (354)-552-6579
>Email: edavid@itn.is     URL:  http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Posted by: 
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry 
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur
or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.





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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:14:14 -0700, VicRCurious@hotmail.com wrote:

Not only in Canada are the Russian ZYD Mafia making false claims as
alleged "REFUGEES" from Israel, just so they can jump the queue for
immigration, as well as being parasites on the taxpayers of the host
countries!!

Just ask taxpayers in Australia and New Zealand about their Israelis!


>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:36:26 -0700, Frank Arthur 
>wrote:
>
>>In a banner headline story on the front page of the issue of Canadian
>>Jew News for January 18 2007, is a huge story detailing how Israelis
>>are filing fraudulent claims as "REFUGEES", to jump the immigration
>>queues, and get into Canada.
>>
>>Even the Embassy in Canada for Israel is enraged about these false
>>claims, usually made by people who emigrated to Israel from the former
>>Soviet Union. They state categorically that these claims are
>>spurious!!
>>
>>The Israeli newspaper Ha'Aretz had a feature story in their issue for
>>31 December 2006. The article claimed that in year 2005 there were 679
>>claims as refugees made by these criminals, with many of these false
>>claims made to Canadian authorities.
>>
>>Canadian Jew News claims that 369 claims were made by Israelis
>>claiming refugee status in the 9 months from January to September 2006
>>alone!!
>>
>>The crooked Canadian Refugee people allowed 91 of these criminals to
>>stay in Canada at taxpayer expense!! In fact Israel has made the top
>>10 list of source countries for people claiming refugee status in the
>>first 3 quarters of 2006!!
>>
>>In fact, since 2000, almost 3,000 Israelis have claimed refugee
>>status, so that they can stay in Canada and live off Canadian
>>taxpayers with their fraudulent claims.



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On 29 Aug 2006 11:46:41 -0700, in can.politics "Russ"
 wrote:

JEWISH CRIME

"Of all the areas of Jewish enterprise," notes Gerald Krafetz, "none
has been so overlooked as the field of crime. And it isn't because of
a lack of Jewish criminality. For an introspective people, this
oversight is significant. It is as if Jewish crime did not exist, an
unsavory skeleton is best left in the family closet ... The
sociopathology of Jews is not an acceptable notion since it runs
counter to both religious precepts and preconceived ideas that Jews
have of themselves." [KREFETZ, p. 112] "Jews were ... involved in many
of the most visible and spectacular frauds of the post-Civil War
period," notes Benjamin Ginsberg, "as well as in economic dislocations
and financial manipulations that characterize the era." [GINSBERG, p.
75] In one much publicized scandal for instance, the Jewish governor
of South Carolina, Franklin Moses, oversaw the issue and selling of $6
million in fraudulent state securities, as well as funneling hundreds
of thousands of dollars in public funds into his own pocket.
[GINSBERG, p. 75]

In a broader financial sphere, very visibly at the top of the socio-
economic pyramid, Jewish businessman Joseph Seligman's nefarious
activities in the late 1800s helped to create the infamous "Black
Friday" stock market crash.  Benjamin Ginsberg notes that the crash

"ruined thousands of investors, implicated President Grant, and led to
a Congressional investigation of [Jay] Gould and Seligman ...
Similarly, in the early 1890s, Jacob Schiff collaborated with E. H.
Harriman in the latter's attempts to wrest control of the Northern
Pacific Railroad from J. P. Morgan and James Hill ... When the price
of the Northern Pacific Stock collapsed, the entire market crashed in
the notorious 'Black Thursday' panic that led to a nationwide economic
depression." [GINZBURG, p. 73]

In 1885 the French-based project to build the Panama Canal collapsed,
resulting in financial scandal that led, in part, to Seligman again.

"Both the United States Congress and the French Parliament had
inquiries," says Ginsberg, "In both countries major Jewish financiers
were implicated: Baron Jacques de Reinach in Paris and Joseph Seligman
in the United States. Many shareholders lost everything, but Seligman
lost nothing. In contemporary parlance, the Seligmans engaged in
influence peddling, insider trading, and corporate asset stripping and
looting -- all at the expense of credulous investors." [GINZBURG, p.
74] The French end of the Panama Canal scandals, notes Albert
Lindemann, "involved large amounts of French capital and threatened
national prestige -- and Jewish agents were deeply involved. The
intermediaries between the Panama company and parliament were almost
exclusively Jews with German names and backgrounds, some of whom tried
to blackmail one another." [LINDEMANN, p. 87]


continued at
http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/09crime.htm



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On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:18:59 -0600, "TopPoster..." 
wrote:

Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous

Kenneth McVay has nothing else to do with his time. He is an unemployable 
bum with a criminal record, and mentally useless.


Mind you, he was employed for a few months as a gas station attendant, until
customers complained.

For full details about the unsavoury background of Mcvay, be sure to read the
Dr. Michael files about McVay.


> Greg P Carr  wrote:
>>Give it up.  No is going to believe your lies.
>>On Mar 28, 7:11 am, Rob Welldumb 
>>wrote:



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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:55:47 GMT, beg2differ@notactive.com wrote:
>On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 13:56:44 GMT, ErnstZundholz
> wrote:

>>'Stabmonton' website cuts the wrong way
>>By BROOKES MERRITT -- Sun Media

>>"Let's face it, if you live in Edmonton, you're going to get stabbed every so
>>often. It's like saying hello."

>>That's a quote from the satirical "Stabmonton" Internet forum, part of a
>>Facebook.com website that's got the mayor and city cops wondering how 
>>someone could be so insensitive.

>>Especially since several Edmonton families are still grieving loved ones lost
>>in recent fatal stabbings.

>>Since being uploaded Thursday by local computer geek Jeffrey Grajkowski , 
>>over 50 people have become members of the online group.

>>Posts on the forum include haikus about stabbings in Edmonton, flippant
>>discussions on knives of choice and instructions about how to win knife fights
>>- including "declare that you're from Edmonton, in any other city this will
>>cause your opponent to run in fear."

>>"It's disturbing and a bit perverse," Mayor Stephen Mandel told Sun Media.

>>"I guess there are more ways than I knew of to use the Internet in a
>>completely dysfunctional fashion."

>>Police spokesman Jeff Wuite said the Stabmonton forum falls in with other
>>distasteful monickers for Edmonton, such as "deadmonton" and areas like 
>>Mill Woods being called "killwoods."

>>The entire city has been plagued by stabbings in recent years and last year
>>was dubbed the murder capital of Canada.

>>"It's in very poor taste. We're not pleased to hear about this," Wuite said.

>Poor taste? I guess sometimes the TRUTH really can hurt politcians but
>maybe if we did not have so many stabbings and killings in this city
>this website would not have gone up. So? Who really is to blame? Whey
>to open people's eyes to this problem Jeffrey. 


Poor taste maybe, but if the crooked cops would catch a few criminals, instead
of constantly doing coverups, perhaps the public might eventually respect them

>How much is the cost of our police service these days anyway? 
Over $220 MILLION dollars wasted in the city budget!!

Also, do not forget that Wuite is one of the overpaid hacks and flacks on the
trough at police headquarters, getting paid $95,000 plus benefits according to
their last ad for more bums.

In fact over $2 MILLION is wasted from the police budget to pay for 9, yes 9,
bums in the BS section, even though the chief gets around quarter MILLIOn,
plus benefits, and the deputy chiefs get around $180,000 plus benefits.

For their salaries, the chief and deputies should be able to speak proper
English, and save the taxpayers the costs of all their hacks in the BS
section!!




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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:01:00 GMT, in alt.revisionism Mel Kelly
 wrote:

I like this site.  It has a forum for discussion.

Committee for Open Debate of the Holocaust (CODOH)
http://codoh.com

-- 
I am interested in historical accuracy only and reject:
Jewish Supremacist, White Supremacist, Christian Supremacist,
Bible Supremacist, American Supremacist, etc?



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Guess Robert Welldum just does not like the goyim knowing about 
what is published in his 2 ZYD news media!!

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:06:29 GMT, ErnstZundholz
 wrote:

>When TWO Jew media - Canadian Jew News, and Jewish Telegraph Agency 
>both report the story, it must be true!!

>On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 18:25:51 GMT, scott@free.info wrote:

>>Yehuda Bauer on the Wannsee Conference

>>THE CANADIAN JEWISH NEWS, Jan. 30, 1992 

>>Wannsee's importance rejected 
>>London (JTA) - An Israeli Holocaust scholar has debunked the Wannsee
>>Conference, at which top Nazi officials are said to have gathered at a
>>villa in a Berlin suburb in 1942 to draw the blueprints of the "Final
>>Solution." 

>>According to Prof. Yehuda Bauer (photo) of the Hebrew University in
>>Jerusalem, Wannsee was a meeting, "but hardly a conference", and
>>"little of what was said there was executed in detail." 

>>"The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at
>>Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at."



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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 04:26:45 GMT, in alt.revisionism "abc" 
wrote:

"Within five minutes, any intelligent, open-minded person can be convinced 
that the Holocaust gassings of World War II are a profitable hoax.

Fred A. Leuchter is America's leading specialist on the design and 
fabrication of execution equipment, including homicidal gas chambers. In 
1988, Leuchter scraped samples from the alleged gas chamber walls in 
Auschwitz, Birkenau and Lublin. Cyanide residue would be clearly evident on 
all these walls if gassings did occur. To his astonishment, Leuchter found 
no significant cyanide traces in any one of these rooms.

In 1991, the Polish government repeated these tests to disprove Leuchter's 
findings, but they as well found no evidence of any gassings ever occurring.

The structural integrity of these "gas chambers" is also extremely faulty. 
These rooms have ordinary doors and windows which are not hermetically 
sealed! There are large gaps between the floors and doors. If the Germans 
had attempted to gas anyone in these rooms, they would have died themselves, 
as the gas would have leaked and contaminated the entire area. Also, no 
equipment exists to exhaust the air-gas mixture from these buildings. 
Nothing was made to introduce or distribute the gas throughout the chambers. 
There are no provisions to prevent condensation of gas on the walls, floors 
or ceilings. No exhaust stacks have ever existed.

Though six million Jews supposedly died in the gas chambers, not one body 
has ever been autopsied and found to have died of gas poisoning. We have 
been shown piles of bodies from World War II, but most of these persons died 
of typhus or starvation or Allied bombings and a great many of those were 
murdered Germans, not Jews. Roughly the equivalent of ten football fields 
should be packed full of gassed bodies to present as evidence, yet not one 
body has ever been discovered.

The Germans documented everything in meticulous detail from shrubbery to 
arbors, but no pre-war or wartime plans or documents exist that detail or 
even mention any gas chambers for reasons of genocide. All documents ever 
presented were drawn up AFTER the war.

Even if we threw away all the evidence and accounted for every so-called gas 
chamber, it would have taken 68 YEARS to accomplish gassing six million 
Jews!

Even The Diary of Anne Frank is a hoax. Portions of the diary were written 
with a ball point pen. These pens were not in use at the time Anne Frank 
lived.

It is not denied concentration camps existed. Tragically, many died of 
typhus or starvation, as often happens in such situations. There is, 
however, no evidence that any gassings occurred for the reasons of genocide.

Israel continues to receive trillions of dollars worldwide as retribution 
for Holocaust gassings. Our country has donated more money to Israel than to 
any other country in the history of the world -- over $35 billion per year, 
everything included. If not for our extravagantly generous gifts to Israel, 
every family in America could afford a brand new Mercedes Benz. Surely the 
American people would be outraged if they realized their hard-earned money 
is being squandered in these difficult times.

With all this money at stake for Israel, it is easy to comprehend why this 
Holocaust hoax is so secretly guarded. The Jewish name for Holocaust is 
"Shoah." In Zionist circles, it is known as "Shoah Business." If nothing 
else, this unbelievable coverup demonstrates the irrepressible Zionist 
influence and control of our country. Their only defense against the facts 
is to cry out "antisemitic," "Skinhead" or "Nazi," whereas the majority of 
those who question the Holocaust are ordinary citizens...though you would 
never know it from the media.

In whatever way you can, please help shatter this profitable myth. It is 
time we stop sacrificing America's welfare for the sake of Israel and spend 
our hard-earned dollars on Americans.

(For more information contact The Institute for Historical Review P.O. Box 
2739 Newport Beach, CA 92659 USA).

There are compelling reasons to believe that the so-called holocaust never 
existed. Page 223, in The Diary of Anne Frank, (Pan Horizons edition, Pan 
Books Ltd., London, 1989), indicates that the size of Auschwitz, the most 
notorious of all German work camps, WAS VERY SMALL, with only 11,000 people 
(many of whom may not even have been Jews) being evacuated by the Germans at 
the time of the Russian advance in 1945. Certainly, compared to Spielberg's 
film, Schindler's List (which Emilie Schindler, Oskar's widow, said was full 
of lies), and other Jewish propaganda, that millions upon millions of Jews 
were systematically exterminated, 11,000 people is a very small number. 
Simple arithmetic tells us that the Germans would have had to have had 
hundreds of camps, or else they would have had to exterminate 137 people PER 
HOUR, in order for six million Jews to have been exterminated at such small 
camps as Auschwitz, a feat that would have been humanly impossible 
considering that, according to Douglas Reed's Behind the Scene and The 
Controversy of Zion, a mere 850,000 soldiers and others were killed by the 
entire German and Japanese war machines combined during WW2 (see p.397-400 
of Douglas Reed's book Controversy of Zion). People who would believe the 
Jewish propaganda that six million Jews were exterminated by Hitler must 
KEEP IN MIND THE SMALL SCALE CONSTRUCTION OF AUSCHWITZ AND THE VERY FEW 
OTHER GERMAN WORK CAMPS THAT EXISTED DURING WW2.
On July 13, 1994, a documentary on the life of Charles A. Lindbergh 
broadcast on the Public Broadcast System (PBS - KENW-TV) said that when 
Lindbergh visited one of these few camps in Germany following WW2, he was 
told that 25,000 died in 1-1/2 years. Again, simple arithmetic tells us that 
25,000 times a half dozen camps does not equal 6,000,000. In fact, it 
doesn't even equal 600,000. . . .

It is an interesting fact that the number of so-called persecuted Jews KEEPS 
INCREASING. Hal Greenwald, program director for the Hillel Foundation at 
Duke University, a Jewish student group, has been promoting the idea that 
NINE MILLION JEWS WERE EXTERMINATED IN HITLER'S GAS CHAMBERS (New York 
Times, Nov. 9, 1991, AP). NOW IT'S 9 MILLION AND GROWING. ..JUST LIKE OUR 
DEBT/TAX MONEY SUPPLY...THE NUMBERS JUST KEEP COMING OUT OF THIN AIR. . 
.(The Bible Caused Economic and Financial Slavery in the New World Order by 
Lee Cheney)".



Read the entire article online in depth:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm




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On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:00:13 -0400, Johannes von Ebersdorf
 wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 15:22:13 GMT, ArthurFranks
> wrote:

>>A list of possible suitable targets for bombing in Canada 
>>will probably include the following:
>>
>>Parliament when full of useless MPs and Senators
>>Supreme Court when full of anti-normal judges
>>Toronto slums where criminals based
>>Port of Vancouver
>>Port of Halifax
>>Port of Prince Rupert
>>Port of Toronto
>>St.Lawrence Seaway
>>Oil refinery Sarnia
>>Oil refineries Edmonton
>>Oil refineries Calgary
>>Toronto Stock Exchange
>>West Deadmonton Mall
>>Cold Lake military base
>>Gagetown military base
>>Halifax naval base
>>Vancouver airport
>>Toronto airport
>>Halifax airport
>>Montreal airport

>>Feel free to add other suitable targets for bombing. 

>Your claim is nonsense. Why the hell would anybody bother to dedicate
>people and resources to destroying targets in Canada? The whole
>scenario makes no sense. The people you apparently think might do this
>have far more significant enemies about whom to worry. On a list of
>100 enemies, sorted in order of importance, Canada might make the list
>as #100.

CSIS and their MOSSAD masters recently claimed that Canada was now on the
hitlist for terrorism acts.

Or, do you believe that MOSSAD will bomb targets in Canada, just to keep
Canada active with the Us in wars to defend Israhell?


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To all of you who paid your taxes, remember that the BRONFMAN ZYDS 
screwed CRA out of $1,500 MILLION.

You and other taxpayers will have to make up the shortage.

Then there is the scam run by McVay and Bnai Brith - where they give
fraudulent donation receipts for payments for McVay's BUSINESS!!


On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:08:09 -0700, Sueee Shiksa Cohen 
wrote:

>Re: ZYDS $60 MILLION TAX FRAUD & BOGUS TAX RECEIPTS BY
>MCVAY/NIZKOR!!MONEY LAUNDERING!

>On 16 Oct 2004 20:53:45 -0000, HolohoaxByZHIDS   wrote:
>Perhaps Alan Baggett can get some honest SI Division of CCRA official
>to charge McVay and Bnai Brith with criminal fraud for issuing false
>charity donation receipts for payments to McVay's advertising
>business!!

>Then, CCRA can re-assess all those zhids who had filed for fraudulent 
>donations, and also CCRA would be entitled to not only taxes, but also
>penalties and interest!! The amount recovered should help to
>drastically reduce the national debt of Canada.

><<exclusive rights: Fair use [The fair use of a copyrighted work,
>including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any
>other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism,
>comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for
>classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of
>copyright. [I]n any particular case is a fair use the factors
>to be considered shall include - (1) whether such use is of a
>commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes.. ((this
>material is distributed without profit or payment to those who have
>expressed a prior interest in receiving this information for
>non-profit research and educational purposes
>only. - FAIR USE INTENDED))>>>
>
>Foreword: Here are the key banner phrases to look for and to keep in
>mind:
>
>
>HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH $60 MILLION FRAUD
>The Tash folks, who may or may not have invited neo-Nazi Haider to
>their wedding, now have worse headaches to worry about.
>
>Huge tax scam exposed
>
>Religious group issued phony receipts for tens of millions
>
>
>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>--
>The Nizkor Project
>
>
>
>Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization (NPO)
>Information Return Includes Form T1044
>.An NPO described in paragraph 149(1)(l) of the Income
>Tax Act is a club,society, or association that is
>organized and operated solely for:
>social welfare;
>civic improvement;
>pleasure or recreation;
>or any other purpose except profit.
>   Also, no part of the income of these organizations can
>be payable to or otherwise available for the personal
>benefit of any proprietor, member, or shareholder,
>unless the proprietor, member, or shareholder was a
>club, society,or association whose primary purpose
>was to promote amateur athletics in Canada.
>
>
>
>The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
>with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada...
> Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation
>may call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the
>receptionist that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor
>Project...
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13]
>
>
>
>	-----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>http://www.usajewish.com/scripts/usaj/paper/Article.asp?ArticleID=932
>(Link active November 21, 2003. Archived locally as: yid_tax_scam)
>
>HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH $60 MILLION FRAUD
>The Tash folks, who may or may not have invited neo-Nazi Haider to
>their wedding, now have worse headaches to worry about.
>
>Huge tax scam exposed
>
>Religious group issued phony receipts for tens of millions
>
>Hundreds of people and businesses in Montreal's Jewish community are
>to face criminal charges or be required to pay tens of millions of
>dollars in evaded taxes as a result of a guilty plea yesterday in a
>Saint-Jerome court. The guilty plea by a religious group connected to
>the Hasidic community in suburban Boisbriand capped a two-year
>investigation of what federal tax auditors say is the largest-ever tax
>fraud involving a religious organization in Quebec.
>
>The religious group, which is known as Construit Toujours Avec Bonte
>and has links to the Montreal Rabbinical College, pleaded guilty to
>issuing tax receipts for charitable donations that overstated the
>amount of the donation.
>
>A senior Montreal construction executive blew the whistle on the scam
>when he approached Revenue Canada, now part of the Canadian Customs
>and Revenue Agency, with taped information in 1997. The resulting
>investigation saw federal tax sleuths seize about $60 million in phony
>receipts from individuals and businesses in the Jewish community,
>court documents say.
>
>Joseph Gutstadt, president of Magil Construction International, the
>whistle-blower who exposed the fraud, said in a telephone interview
>last night from Israel: "I'm happy that, at the end of the day,
>justice has prevailed."
>
>But Gutstadt said he was disappointed that Construit Toujours was
>fined only $400,000, and that none of the administrators of the
>organization or the rabbinical college were charged.
>(Montreal Gazette, sent in by R. Shultz)
>
>In pursuit of donors linked to tax evasion Hundreds in Jewish
>community under scrutiny by federal officials. Federal tax
>investigators insisted yesterday that they will continue an
>investigation involving hundreds of people and businesses
>in the Jewish community suspected of participating in a
>charitable-donation tax fraud. The case involves about $60 million in
>claimed donations, federal tax officials said, making it Quebec's
>largest-ever tax fraud involving a religious organization.
>
>On Wednesday, a religious group connected to the Hasidic community of
>Tash, in suburban Boisbriand, pleaded guilty to issuing
>charitable-donation tax receipts which overstated the amounts actually
>given.
>
>Yesterday, the community, through a public-relations firm, asserted
>that government officials had agreed not to go after donors who
>participated in the scam. The same statement said the community's
>Montreal Rabbinical College would retain the right to issue
>charitable-donation receipts that can be used to reduce donors' tax
>liabilities.
>(Montreal Gazette, sent in by R. Shultz)
>
>
>
>Remember the key headline from above: "Religious group issued phony
>receipts for tens of millions"
>
>Here is essentially the same thing done by B'nai Brith to launder
>exempt donations to The Nizkor Project:
>
>The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay Director
>P.O. Box 244, Station A
>Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
>1-250-616-9431
>
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-
>1&as_umsgid=8f71th%241331%241@news.tht.net&lr=&hl=en
>(Archived locally as: BBsCUT)
>http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8f71th%241331%241%40news.tht.net&output=gp
>lain
>From: kmcvay@vex.net (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: How much of a cut does the B'nai Brith get from Nizkor?
>Date: 2000/05/08
>Message-ID: <8f71th$1331$1@news.tht.net>#1/1
>References: <2e2f77da.4cdf39c9@usw-ex0105-038.remarq.com>
>X-Trace: news.tht.net 957811441 35937 216.126.72.2
>(8 May 2000 18:44:01 GMT)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Reply-To: kmcvay@nizkor.org
>
>In article <2e2f77da.4cdf39c9@usw-ex0105-038.remarq.com>,
>Blakely   wrote:
>>http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
>
>>The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative
>>affiliation with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith
>>Canada. The League is a national volunteer organization
>>dedicated to combatting antisemitism, racism and bigotry,
>>and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
>
>>Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their
>>donation may call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224,
>>and advise the receptionist >that they wish to make a
>>donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer, you can print
>>this form and send to:
>
>>The Nizkor Project
>>c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
>>15 Hove Street
>>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
>
>>Name:________________________________________
>>Street Address:____________________________________________
>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code___
>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>
>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human
>>Rights of B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust
>>Fund" to the cheque's memo section. A portion of amounts donated
>>to the Trust Fund is used to build the Nizkor Endowment Fund.
>>If you prefer that all of your donation be invested for Nizkor's
>>future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft with the
>>notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
>>should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for
>>Human Rights of B'nai Brith
>>Canada'.)
>
>
>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>[#0235903-43-13]
>
>>
>
>>How much of cut does this middle man for Nizkor get? 30 percent,
>>40 percent?
>
>Nizkor tenders 5% to the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith
>Canada. This is done to compensate the League for administration
>and accounting expenses. (This was done at my request, since the
>League offered to handle the fund on a pro bono basis, and I did
>not think that would be fair.)
>
>Ten per cent of all donated funds are credited to the Nizkor
>Endowment Fund. Fund assets are invested to provide support for
>Nizkor in perpetuity, and are not used for current expenses.
>
>>this also raises a few more questions, questions I am sure the
>>Nizkorites will avoid answering:
>
>I hate to burst your bubble, Bubba, but this information is
>public knowledge.
>
>>a) Why can't you write a check payable to Nizkor directly?
>
>You can, but it won't get cashed, since Nizkor does not have
>any bank accounts. If you feel the need, of course, by all means
>write a cheque to Nizkor. It will be returned to you promptly
>if you enclose a self-addressed, stamped envelope (Canadian
>postage only).
>
>>b) Why does Nizkor not list a PO Box or a valid physical
>>address?
>
>It does - see Whois.
>
>>c) Can the B'nai Brith prove every cent given to them for
>>Nizkor, actually goes to Nizkor?
>
>Yes, in fact, they can.
>
>>d) Why is Nizkor more secretive than the Klu Klux Klan is? The
>>American Knights gladly give out their phone number, street
>>address and PO Box. Nizkor does none of that.
>
>Tough break, eh? Nizkor's post office address is public knowledge,
>and that's as good as you're going to get. Live with it. (Who on
>earth would want a filthy-mouthed twit like Don Ellis calling them?)
>
>>e) Why does every other holocaust group gladly give their
>>personal information, but the Gentile ran Nizkor project does
>>not? All the Jewish run holocaust groups gladly will explain
>>where their donations come from.
>
>It's my part in the continuing global conspiracy to keep you
>ignorant, of course. (You are correct, however, in asserting that
>Nizkor is run by a gentile, but your bedfellows won't believe you.)
>
>>f) Does Ken McVay pay himself a salary for his work for Nizkor?
>
>Yup - I also appreciate revenue from public speaking and site
>advertising.
>
>
>
>The above only proves "one hand washes the other" and this statement
>made by Ken McVay "Nizkor tenders 5% to the League for Human Rights of
>B'nai Brith Canada. This is done to compensate the League for
>administration and accounting expenses." only shows him giving a
>"reward" to the very people who launder his exempt donations he
>receives which he is not by law entitled to receive on his own; hence
>the tax scheme devised to circumvent the law.
>
>As for Ken McVay's statement: "Ten per cent of all donated funds are
>credited to the Nizkor Endowment Fund. Fund assets are invested to
>provide support for Nizkor in perpetuity.." is also very telling
>seeing how Nizkor is Ken McVay so just substitute Ken McVay where you
>see Nizkor mentioned. It is Ken McVay Endowment Fund and it is Ken
>McVay Trust Fund and both being funded through B'nai Brith. Ken McVay
>is the sole operator (and sole recipient of exempt funding) of Nizkor.
>
>I.E.
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e060868_1%40news2.uncensored-
>news.com&rnum=1
>Subject: Is NIZKOR Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
>Message-ID: <3e060868_1@news2.uncensored-news.com>
>Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:46:15 GMT
>
>Here is what CCRA regs say about exempt donations and what is said
>about Nizkor.
>
>The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay (Sole Operator)
>P.O. Box 244, Station A
>Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
>1-250-616-9431
>
>
>Straight from CCRA: "we have no record of a registered
>charity by the name of Nizkor.org."
>
>Canadian revenue payers you need to contact CCRA and
>ask them how a website is able to receive "exempt
>donations" when it is neither a registered charity or
>a Non Profit Organization.
>
>A letter (included below) from CCRA advises me they
>never heard of NIZKOR.ORG so you all should be asking
>how Nizkor is offering:
>"Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax
>receipt" when it is nothing more than a website!
>  A ONE-MAN BUSINESS RUN BY KEN MCVAY!!
>
>CCRA said: "we have no record of a registered charity
>by the name of Nizkor.org." (Letter included below)
>Only registered charities are allowed to issue "Canadian
>receipts"!!
>
>"A registered charity is a charity that has specifically
>applied to the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency for
>registration and has been accepted as such. A registered
>charity can issue charitable receipts for tax purposes."
>CCRA rule included below with web link for verification!
>
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>From: Charity webmail 
>Sender: "Langdon, Blaine" 
>To: 
>Subject: Registered charity question.
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:23:26 -0500
>X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
>(On file and archived locally with all headers as: CCRAreply)
>
>Thank you for your e-mail.
>
>The Charities Directorate of the Canada Customs and
>Revenue Agency is responsible for the registration
>and compliance of charities in Canada.
>These organizations are similar to "exempt organizations"
>as are registered in the United States.
>However, we have no record of a registered charity
>by the name of Nizkor.org.
>
>Additionally, due to the confidentiality provisions
>of the Canadian Income Tax Act, I am unable to
>disclose information concerning a particular
>organization's tax affairs, including measures
>taken or to be taken by the Department resulting
>from complaints. However, I wish to assure you that
>all complaints received by the Department are
>treated seriously and are fully investigated,
>where appropriate.
>
>Finally, the annual information returns of
>Canadian registered charities are available to
>the public. However, as you will note from the above,
>Nizkor.org is not a registered charity.
>The non-profit information return which you
>describe is not available to the public.
>
>Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Blaine Langdon
>Charities Directorate
>
>	~~~~END~~~~
>
>LURKERS here is how Ken McVay and his Nizkor
>is robbing you:
>
>
>http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/tax/nonprofit/menu-e.html
>(Link active November 21, 2003. Archived locally as CCRAnpo)
>Non-profit organizations - Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency
>A non-profit organization (NPO) is a club, society, or association
>that's organized and operated solely for:
>
>social welfare
>civic improvement
>pleasure or recreation
>any other purpose except profit.
>
>
>Ken McVay's NIZKOR.ORG does not fall under any of the above
>categories.
>
>http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/
>Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency
>
>Remember Canadian Tax Payers -
>It is YOU who are subsidizing Nizkor!
>Do you want your tax dollar subsidizing this web site?
>
>Here is Ken McVay, Director of The Nizkor Project, publicly stating:
>"Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website."
>
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-
>1&as_umsgid=99oro0%24259r%241@news.tht.net&lr=&hl=en
>(Archived locally as: NizkorNOTcharity)
>From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: ATTENTION NIZKOR: Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit
>Organization (NPO) Information Return Form T1044
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <99oro0$259r$1@news.tht.net>
>References: 
><3abfe742$0$195@news.impulse.net>
>
>Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
>
>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>
>Paranoia is a terrible thing, particularly when coupled with Mr.
>Bradbury's abysmal ignorance.



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In the Edmonton Journal for Tuesday 17 July 2007, is a banner headline story
on page B5.

Some faggoty student was allegedly assaulted in Red Deer Alberta, following a
letter to the editor of the Red Deer Advocate newspaper in 2002.

Rev.Stephen Boissoin had stated in his letter to the editor, that "war has
been declared" against the gay movement.

Boissoin also felt that the fags were "spreading their psychological disease"
and he further compared fags to pedophiles, drug dealers and pimps plaguing
our communities.

As the Reverend stated,"Where homosexuality flourishes, all manner of
wickedness abounds."

Apparently fags in Canada do not believe in the right of free speech, or
freedom of expression.

What is alarming, is that the government of Alberta through the Human Rights
body, is supporting the fag agenda!!

Boissoin is getting support from normal Albertans, and also from the Alliance
Defence Fund a USA religious rights group.


Previously, well known anti-fag campaigner Bill Whatcott was featured on TV
news recently, busy distributing anti-fag leaflets door to door in Edmonton.

The usual suspects, reps of the fags and lezzies, have filed complaints
against Whatcott under so-called human rights laws.

The perverts claim that Whatcott is causing them to feel hated.

Whatcott now has group supporting his campaigns in Canada.
No doubt the Rev. Phelps of Westboro Baptist Church will also 
provide assistance, if needed.

People should never ever forget - it was a Canuck fag who spread AIDS
worldwide, with the collusion of the Canadian government. This well
documented in the book: And the Band Played On".


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A few more examples of the City WASTING TAXPAYER DOLLARS!!

The papers now are reporting about the city taking over the photo-radar scams
>from the crooked Texas based business.

This Texas firm has been charged with BRIBERY in connection with $437,000 that
police found in an account controlled by 2 crooked Edmonton cops.

Mind you, the former police  chief, who had to have signed the crooked
contract was miraculously NOT CHARGED by his fellow cops!!

Why it will take a year and a half to switch over to city control, other than
to continue paying the crooks in Texas is not explained by the clowns on
council!!


Then another story in the news relates to the current chief cop being annoyed
that one of his expert cops wants to testify for the defence in Court cases,
instead of lying and framing innocent people!!

Why no uproar regarding the $175,000 being paid to a BS fiorm in Toronto, to
put a spin on stories about Deadmonton?
If citizens are currently paying $8 MILLION to EDE, why are we paying, if they
are not doing their job?

Funding to EDE MUST BE TERMINATED!!



On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:55:48 GMT, "sharx35"  wrote:
>"JimmieD"  wrote in message 
>news:h2hp93hcuq3v4t829kusg9lq0vc3gcn9s9@4ax.com...
>>A few more examples of how the incompetents on the city pay trough waste
>> YOUR money:

>> The former city head engineer wasted more than $12 millions for the  Highlands
>> sewer line, which was not needed, and couldn't work because it went 
>> UPHILL!
>> Schnablegger instead of being prosecuted, got a golden handshake!

>> The city then had to pay an out of court settlement, in compensation to 
>> the assistant chief engineer, Riaz Chaudry, who exposed this scam!!

>> Have you forgotten the $12 million stolen from Edmonton Transit cash  machines
>> over a number of years, even though the City Auditor told Management of 
>> both Transit and Finance?
>> Yet the managers did nothing, apart from wining and dining at the  criminal's
>> home. They did not even get prosecuted as his accomplices, or for their
>> negligence!!!

>> 2 years ago city taxpayers got stuck with hundreds of thousands in costs
>> because the city transportation incompetents ILLEGALLY CLOSED the
>> access road beside Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>> The city not only had to rebuild the access, but also had to pay 
>> compensation to a business litigating!!

>> Why did the city not FIRE the incompetent FINANCE MANAGER who lost $40
>> millions by making bad investments with the city investment fund? Instead 
>> of being fired, he got a performance bonus!!
>> Last year's papers report that he  resigned.

>> Instead of prosecuting those who mis-appropriated funds from EDE, such as 
>> the more than $200,000 improperly spent on so-called travel expenses, the city 
>> had no controls and the scammers get away with the money, not even having it
>> declared on their T-4's!!

>> Lots of extra topics meriting a tax revolt, include  such as:
>> Paying off City officials who screw up, instead of jail time

>> The $600 millions of taxpayer money given to Triple 5.

>> City paying for responsibilities of Feds and Province - such as sports,
>> multi-culturalism, welfare.

>> Don't forget the $650,000 a year given to the WEM Grand Prix car races 
>> each July!!
>> Mind you, the city now wants to jump transit fares for poor workers 
>> skyhigh, while they give YOUR money to their friends such as Triple5!!

>> Why wasn't LOWRY, of EPCOR, FIRED when he negligently forgot to pay local
>> taxes to Leduc, costing EPCOR an unnecessary extra $450,000 penalty?

>> Howard Jarvis in California started Proposition 13.
>> We need similar to stop the incompetents on Council from needlessly 
>> raising taxes!!

>> In the real world, when cash is short, essentials are prioritised, and
>> useless wants are avoided.

>> The whole lot of Council need to not only be FIRED, but PROSECUTED
>> for wasting BILLIONS!!

>> If you are a concerned homeowner, who feels that multi-millionaire Oilers 
>> do not deserve $4.8 millions a year in subsidies;

>> If you are a tourist flyer, who feels the disgraced general mismanaging 
>> the Leduc airport does not deserve more than $6 millions a year in subsidies
>> from Edmonton taxpayers;

>> If you are a small business owner fed up with giving more than $6 MILLIONS
>> a year to EDE, which hasn't brought in one new business, or any new jobs,
>> other than those of the high-spending fat cats running the scam. To add 
>> insult to injury, the Chamber of Commerce does the job, without any taxpayer 
>> money!!

>> If you are one of the frightened taxpayers, scared to leave home because  of
>> escalating crime, how do you feel about the Council wasting more than $12
>> MILLIONS for redoing Churchill Square?

>> How about the MILLIONS of dollars, for cops,fire department and ambulance- 
>> for B.S./PR staff, when the chief honchos of each makes more than $100,000 
>> each!!
>> For that money they should be able to speak proper English!!

>> On the subject of the cops, what happened to the $5 MILLIONS a year saving 
>> in wages, as a result of the overpaid senior officers retiring, earning 
>> $80,000 to $120,000, now replaced by rookies earning $35,000??
>> Who is pocketing the money saved?

>> If you are fed up with skyrocketing taxes, if you are fed up with paying 
>> for buddies of the mayor, if you are fed up with all the scams - those now 
>> known, and those covered up - CALL CITY ACTION CENTER at 496-8200

>> No doubt Sharx and others will have more examples of wastage of city 
>> money!!

>Many of the examples above bear a LOT of looking into. Do NOT discount their 
>veracity on account of your dislike for the original poster--I recognize 
>most of the content as being factual.





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On the front page of the  Edmonton Journal, Saturday 30 December 2006, 
is a huge story detailing the conviction of the promoter of this scam, which
involved Edmonton Police!!

The government investigation confirmed that real charities received only 10%
of the money collected, while the promoters and the crooked cops, kept the
rest!!


It was the crooked Edmonton cops, who willingly gave their name to this scam,
so that the Police Hockey team would get publicity.

Because they are cops, they can not plead ignorance, of the laws!!

Just another scam involving crooked Edmonton cops, what?


On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:58:35 GMT, "PV"  wrote:
>"Asterix"  wrote in message 
>news:h6bv32hi1ur7da598ubcid0ic0jovabblm@4ax.com...
>> The Edmonton Journal, in a banner headline story on page B1 of today's
>> paper, exposes yet another swindle involving Edmonton's crooked cops!!

>> They exposed a so-called CHARITY SCAM, for a so-called "benefit" game
>> run under the style of "Oldtimers Hockey Challenge".

>> This scam collected more than $250,000 through fraudulent telephone
>> solicitors, claiming the money was going to a charity.

>> In fact, only $20,000 actually goes to a local women's shelter safe
>> house.

>> Almost all the money goes to a scam business called Xentel DM Inc, out
>> of Calgary, not even a local business. In the USA, XENTEL has been the
>> subject of investigations alleging deceptive telemarketing, as well as
>> for breaching do-not-call laws.

>> In Iowa, in November 2004, Xentel was forced to stop abusive and
>> misleading calls in fundraising and solicitations, and was forced to
>> pay $30,000 in penalties.

>> Since almost all the money goes to a for-profit business, rather than
>> to a registered charity, why isn't the provincial government charging
>> the crooks and their sponsors with FRAUD?

>> This scam was being promoted by the Edmonton Police Faded Blues
>> Hockey team.

>> Just one more scandal for the new chief to clean up!

>Xentel approached the faded blues, set it up, organized it and then skimmed 
>85% of the money.  This is a Xentel scam, not a police scam, the police 
>hired the wrong organization.

>Of course so did the Organ Donation and Transplant Association of Canada.  I 
>am not calling them corrupt but told them I would not donate anything to 
>Xentel who would pull the same scam.

>It's time the Alberta government shut down this company, or force them to 
>clean up their act.
>PV 




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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:04:49 -0400, "El Conquistador" 
wrote:

>'Misuse of Canada's identity' questioned in Israeli spy operation

>Stewart Bell
>National Post

>A SENIOR Cabinet official questioned the head of Israel's security service 
>about allegations Israeli undercover agents posed as Canadians during an 
>operation to assassinate a Palestinian terrorist leader, newly released 
>documents show.

>Although Ottawa has said publicly it was convinced all along the spy claims 
>were false, internal documents obtained yesterday show the matter has 
>continued to concern the government and has been the subject of 
>behind-the-scenes diplomacy.

>In a confidential report, officials said they were concerned about "other 
>countries' intelligence services misusing Canada's identity" and that "such 
>misuse endangers Canadians travelling around the world and undermines the 
>integrity of Canadian passports."

>Ronald Bilodeau, the Privy Council Office security and intelligence 
>co-ordinator and Cabinet assistant secretary, met on Oct. 1 with the head of 
>the Israeli Security Agency, whose spies allegedly used false Canadian 
>identities during the operation in Gaza.

>"The ISA is reported to have recently had its agents pose as Canadians to 
>lure a Palestinian, 22-year-old Akram Zatmeh, into informing on Intifada 
>leaders in return for promises of resettlement in Canada," according to a 
>"Secret: Canadian Eyes Only" memo prepared for the meeting.

>  The documents do not describe the response of the ISA chief, who reports 
>directly to Ariel Sharon, the Israeli Prime Minister. Israel has denied the 
>claims. But the papers show Ottawa was worried about being linked to a spy 
>operation and a botched assassination that killed 14 bystanders, nine of 
>them children.

>The allegations surfaced in August, when Mr. Zatmeh publicly detailed how he 
>was lured into becoming an Israeli informant by agents who told him they 
>were Canadians and could help him immigrate. Mr. Zatmeh said he was 
>recruited by three "Canadian" agents who brought him to the Canadian embassy 
>in Tel Aviv before coercing him into helping them, with doctored photos that 
>showed him with naked women.

>On July 23, Mr. Zatmeh helped Israeli agents pinpoint the location of Sheik 
>Salah Shehadeh, a Hamas leader. Twenty minutes later, an Israeli F-16 fired 
>a one-tonne missile at the building, killing not only the sheik but also 
>more than a dozen bystanders.

>Mr. Zatmeh was later arrested as a collaborator and is facing a possible 
>death sentence.

>"Our initial concern ... was that the press articles could be seen by some 
>as alleging Canadian involvement with Israel in the assassination of Sheik 
>Salah Shehadeh," according to an Aug. 29 internal government memo. "Canada 
>has nothing to do with this or with any other purported Israeli operation."

>After the Post learned of the informant's allegations, officials told the 
>newspaper on Sept. 4 they were satisfied the claims were false. However, 
>hours after the Post report on Sept. 5, John McNee, assistant deputy 
>minister for Africa and the Mideast, discussed the matter with Haim Divon, 
>Israel's ambassador to Canada.




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Why Cop Mike Boyd , who was Deputy Chief for ages, Refused as 
Chief of Police Toronto?

If you have inside info on this, kindly post, so we all can know.

Now that he is chief cop in Edmonton, people there are starting to 
wonder also.

Since he left Toronto, all of a sudden there is anti-gang arrests in volume.
Why so little real anti-criminal work while Boyd was in Toronto?

In Edmonton, the serial killer continues his depredations against sex trade
workers, with the total now well over 100 bodies!!

But no arrests by the Edmonton cops, which has people wondering whether 
the killer is one of the cops?

In today's news [18 July 2007] is a major news story about Boyd blackballing
an honest cop who is an expert witness on blood spatter, who  testifies
AGAINST crooked cops, for the defence. The media report that Boyd and his
crooked cops are more interested in getting convictions against innocent
civilians, even if it means lieing, cheating, and framing the innocent.

No wonder people have no respect for Edmonton cops!


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On Fri, 26 May 2006 19:52:23 GMT, "TJ"  wrote:

>get a grip will you...over 100 bodies...ya right...show me the stats on that 
>1...just because they are missing that doesn't prove they are dead, they 
>lead a dangerous life sytle and move all over the place. If anything we need 
>better looking hookers instead of the skank we have walking the streets.

It is the media who have tabulated more than 109 bodies of sex trade workers
in the past few years.

>suuurrreeeeeee....we are all wondering if it's a cop, what BS....

>and how do you know it's "1" killer or a cop for that matter...maybe more 
>than 1....your watching to much tv my friend.....

Perhaps, but surely you are not denying the fact, that a crooked cop would
easily know how to cover his trail, so his brother cops would not bother to
investigate? Particularly the cops hired and promoted over the past 20 years!

>better get your facts straight....as for Boyd, he has done a bang up job 
>since he has been here. Our police service is so screwed up it was a wonder 
>Boyd or anyone would take the job. But he did get them to up the salary to 
>$250 grand a year to take the job, nice cheque every 2 weeks eh.......


You failed to answer the question in the header - why was he constantly
REFUSED THE TOP JOB IN TORONTO?
Was it something to do with his wife also being on the public trough there?

>there's nothing to wonder, he's doing a great job and has the respect of the 
>people in this city and from the members of the EPS...it's the members of 
>the EPS I would wonder about.

Who says he has the respect of the public here, apart from you?

>they all seem taser happy these days....
 Including the kids of the former chief, don't forget...

>"Asterix"  wrote in message 
>news:6ojc72t48htptgc2kogrektlb7qbask92s@4ax.com...
>> Why Cop Mike Boyd , who was Deputy Chief for ages, Refused as Chief of
>> Police Toronto?
>>
>> If you have inside info on this, kindly post, so we all can know.
>>
>> Now that he is chief cop in Edmonton, people there are starting to
>> wonder also.
>>
>> Since he left Toronto, all of a sudden there is anti-gang arrests in
>> volume. Why so little real anti-criminal work while Boyd was in
>> Toronto?
>>
>> In Edmonton, the serial killer continues his depredations against sex
>> trade workers, with the total now well over 100 bodies!!
>>
>> But no arrests by the Edmonton cops, which has people wondering
>> whether the killer is one of the cops? 
>



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On 11 Nov 2005 21:47:08 -0800, david_deilley@yahoo.ca wrote:

>In one of Terry Pearson's most boneheaded moves ever, he sat in Edmonton
>waging a dishonest propaganda war that tried to connect the murder rate
>in Toronto with "socialism" in southern Ontario.  What TeeWee didn't
>realize -- the man is a semi-literate blowhard, and lacks even the most
>basic skills for fact-checking -- is that the Edmonton murder rate is
>double that in Toronto.  (In an infantile attempted to be "witty,"
>Pearson repeatedly calls Toronto "Cherranna.")

>Now the Edmonton city council -- elected by the virtuous citizens of
>Edmonton -- have reached "outside the box" for a solution to lawless
>Edmonton's shameful murder rate: they have recruited the former Deputy
>Chief of the "Cherranna" police as the new head of of the floundering
>Edmonton Police Department.

>Let's hope that Chief Mike Boyd can bring some of that eastern Canadian
>management skill to the transformation of the Edmonton Police homocide
>squad from Pearson-like blowhard amateurs to a well-organized
>crime-fighting machine.

As the header says, Toronto is now finally doing something about local
gangs.

Why was nothing done while Mike Boyd was Deputy police chief in
Toronto?

Why is nothing being done about the gangs in Edmonton, now that the
same Mike Boyd is their new chief of crooked police?

Interested minds are wondering about the correlationship!
Why no anti-gang activity by the cops while Mike Boyd was 
running the show?

What is the real reason why Toronto refused to have Mike Boyd as chief?

>Who knows -- with an effective police department in Edmonton, the next
>time Terry finds himself in Criminal court, perhaps the tables will be
>turned after the judgement, and it will be the prosecutor smirking at
>Mr. Pearson rather than the other way around.



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On 30 May 2006 16:57:18 -0700, "His Divine Shadow" 
wrote:
>Asterix wrote:
>> When places like Edmonton get worldwide publicity for POLICE TORTURING
>> INNOCENT CIVILIANS; punk kids murder bus passenger and cops don't
>> bother to attend for over half an hour; many cops now charged with
>> tasering people; all the hooligans amok on Whyte Avenue while cops
>> stand by with fingers up their butts.

>FEAR! UNCERTANTY! DOUBT!

I guess you can not afford to get newspapers, nor do you have a TV.

The media for the past few months have been reporting so many incidents of
crooked cops in Edmonton, one must wonder whether there are any HONEST 
cops in that place.

Even the former police chief had to be fired for just cause.

Then, TV showed all the goons in town rioting, smashing store windows, setting
fires in the streets, and basically looking like somewhere in darkest Africa.

Would any sane person want to go there as a tourist?
Of course, not!


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Yesterday's TV news reported that the young man shot last week by police, was
running away, when police fired 6 shots into his back!!

Guess the crooked cops did not want a live wirness to their criminality? The
victim is still in intensive care in hospital, hanging on to life.

Yet another documented case of police brutality was reported in the Edmonton
Journal, page B2, on 1st July 2006.

Cst. Jan Cichon was finally charged with criminal assault, by his own police
department, for brutalising another innocent civilian.


The Edmonton Journal for yesterday 29 June 2006 had a full page of letters to
the editor complaining about the police brutality!!

These comments are apart from concern by the taxpayers regarding the supposed
extra $2.2MILLION cost claimed by the new police chief.
Guess his undercover rioters did not come cheap?
Is this part of the reason Toronto refused repeatedly to give Mike Boyd the
position of Chief Cop?

Chief Boyd admits that there are at least 35 unresolved complaints filed
against his police in connection with police brutality over the past week or
so!


On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:17:52 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>The local media had a great day publicising the torture of a young woman by
>another rogue Edmonton cop!!

>This Gestapo-like thug was photographed by several reporters, while he beat
>the handcuffed young lady and threw her face onto the pavement, breaking open
>her face!

>In another incident the same night, a 66 year old lawyer , Brian Fish, was
>tasered illegally, for taking pictures of police brutality. He is now laying
>charges against the cops involved.

>And the police chief seems to be doing nothing about all his crooked cops!
>Is this why Mike Boyd was refused the Chief's position in Toronto?

>Guess Chief Boyd was too busy wasting $2,200,000 of taxpayers money 
>setting up his thugs to torture civilians?

>Mind you, the inept cops still have not caught the serial killer of more than
>100 prostitutes, or even the killers of another 2 people this week!!


>On 2006-06-19 11:53:03 -0400, Boadicea  said:

>> The Edmonton Journal for today - 19 June 2006 - carries 2 pages full
>> of photos showing the Edmonton Gestapo TORTURING a woman, who was not 
>> resisting!!

>> Guess the crooked cops forgot that there are people taking
>> photographs?

>> And the jew mayor sees nothing wrong with police brutality.
>> Guess he belongs to the kill-a palestinian school of torture?

>> And they wonder why tourists around the world are starting to avoid
>> visiting UNSAFE Canada!!



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Alan Baggett is providing an essential, and accurate public service, by
exposing the crooks in CRA!

Alan, care to comment on the "meal allowance" the crooks at CRA are given,
in comparison to the meal allowance deduction actual hard-working truckers 
are allowed?

Keep up the great work Alan, and best wishes.


On 5 Jul 2006 10:11:26 -0700, "Alan Baggett" 
wrote:

>Just say you were in the midst of a discussion, an argument, a debate
>or whatever and your opponent came up with (what you thought to be
>anyways) an error. Or maybe you just thought your anti was an out and
>out liar.

>What would you do?

>Would you prove your point and counter with the correct facts?

>Or would you unmercifully malign and smear your opponent? Never
>countering any supposed 'error' with fact.

>Because in the case of the weekly Canada Customs and Revenue Agency
>Story of the Week (CCRA SOTW) and pen name 'Alan Baggett' this
>seems to be the only remedy. Making claims of error and lies and then,
>instead of countering with facts, to malign and smear. Stating such
>smears as Alan Baggett was:

>Arrested for Impaired Driving in
>http://groups.google.ca/group/can.taxes/browse_frm/thread/e7f248e4a17921cb/ec5c80c3d3227ceb?lnk=st&q=&rnum=2#ec5c80c3d3227ceb
>This statement is COMPLETELY FALSE

>Allegations of Homosexuality
>http://groups.google.ca/group/can.taxes/browse_frm/thread/f0d102443f1e2c99/a84f9256d8ea5cf2?lnk=st&q=&rnum=13#a84f9256d8ea5cf2
>COMPLETELY FALSE again.

>Allegations of Pedophilia
>http://groups.google.ca/group/can.taxes/browse_frm/thread/b8395938f960b902/a19197251e6a4e6f#a19197251e6a4e6f
>All COMPLETELY FALSE again.

>We could go on and on here but you get the point. Why, if the CCRA SOTW
>and 'Alan Baggett' are lies and liars, are these the only counters?

>And then there's 'The Dirt' a proud CRA employee of  Toronto
>North TSO (who's name may be Anjum Qureshi, Eusene James, Rob
>Swastek, Howard Noseworthy, Cindy Manser - who knows for sure but
>God) who countered facts with this noted and fact filled thread:

>http://groups.google.ca/group/bc.general/browse_frm/thread/802195c8ad3df419/703781ea2ba56c31?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1#703781ea2ba56c31

>A shame the riff raff that the CRA hires these days. Is there any
>wonder why it is Canada's most complained about Public Institution.

>These are just some of the things that Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) tax
>employees have come up with to counter the weekly Canada Customs and
>Revenue Agency Story of the Week (CCRA SOTW) and pen name 'Alan
>Baggett'.

>And if the weekly Canada Customs and Revenue Agency Story of the Week
>(CCRA SOTW) and pen name 'Alan Baggett' are wrong/lies/error filled
>then why not counter with their supposed facts instead of doing
>everything but.

>What kind of people are these?

>Only God knows.

>And, no doubt, that's who such people will have to answer to in the
>end.

>Good luck.

>God knows you will be needing it.

>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Miss a Tax Tale Miss a lot!
>Click the link for the new, updated and revised CCRA SOTW index!
>
>http://groups.google.ca/group/can.taxes/browse_frm/thread/5a2f8e264e0db530/b86cdd9c5f5e247a?hl=en#b86cdd9c5f5e247a
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, "princeandy"  wrote:

>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.

A lot of good ideas!

Now definitely needed for the members of the pedofilia party in
Holland!!

Also, for judges in Canada releasing repeat child molesters!!

Sensible places such as texas, Singapore and saudi Arabia use the 
DP to get rid of serious criminals.


On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:06:56 -0600, Ken McVaySOBC
 wrote:

>Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have approved
>special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags!!

>In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get their just
>punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!


>>DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags!!

>>This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
>>since many US states, and foreign countries are
>>starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.

>>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
>>of televising executions.

>>A few more thoughts on the subject.

>>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
>>VICTIMS of the criminals executed.

>>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
>>not only determine the method of execution, but should also
>>have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.

>>Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
>>but not limited to such, would include:
>
>>         AIDS spreaders
>>         rapists
>>         drug dealers
>>         home invaders
>>         armed robbers
>>         pederasts and similar child molesters
>>         crooked liars/lawyers
>>         corrupt judges
>>         corrupt politicians
>>         insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
>>         members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
>>         useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
>>              criminals being released
>>Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
>>         any spreader of any disease,including STD - this would
>>                obviously  include most faggots
>>        white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
>>                dollars  (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
>>                how they would   exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)


>>Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:

>>         crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
>>         vivisection
>>         medical experiments without anaesthetic
>>         target practice for police and military
>>         beheading
>>         hanging
>>         barbecueing by electrocution
>>         drawing & quartering

>>Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
>>	guillotining, very popular in France
>>	flaying alive until dead
>>	stoning to death - popular in some jurisdictions

>>More suggestions for both categories are invited.


>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant

>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431

>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.

>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473


>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:27:02 -0600, "Robert Sveinson"
>> wrote:
>>>"Roedy Green"  wrote in message
>>>news:81ptr0pj2ibnkktvdlh3ngrr09jgjih5d9@4ax.com...
>>>> The Iraqis are hopelessly outgunned, yet to everyone's surprise that
>>>> tiny country has held the biggest military in the world at bay.

>>>> One of their most successful techniques has been beheadings, and
>>>> releasing videos. This creates maximum horror with minimal loss of
>>>> life.

>>>> I think they could improve on the productions to make clear they are
>>>> in retaliation.

>>>> So I think the next beheading video should be spliced or split screen
>>>> with shots of dozens of people Americans have beheaded with their
>>>> bombs and machine gun fire.

>>>> I think they should branch out from beheadings, partly because
>>>> beheadings are too unreal.  They need something the man in the street
>>>> can more relate to.

>>>> I suggest, removing fingernails and toenails, removing or splitting
>>>> the penis, crushing the testicles in a vice, gouging out an eye with
>>>> a popsicle stick, allowing rats to nibble, nails through the hands and
>>>> feet, throwing darts at a target painted on the stomach, rubbing
>>>> rotting dead baby corpse goo over Americans stretched naked and then
>>>> slashing with knives to create gangrenous infections to be
>>>> photographed in stop motion, squeezing lemon juice into wounds.

>>>> Play with common phobias, e.g. spiders, snakes, scorpions, rats,
>>>> heights. E.g. video falling to death from a tall building with cameras
>>>> situated at top, bottom and attached to the victim.

>>>> Since Bush started the sexual abuse, and condones child rape, how
>>>> about killing a man with ever larger things shoved up his ass, pounded
>>>> home with a sledgehammer till he splits like a watermelon.

>>>> Of course any such violence must be justified by showing video of at
>>>> least a dozen instances of Americans doing something similar first.

>>>> "Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
>>>> Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
>>>> nor of Mussolini."
>>>> ~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
>>>>   on Bush's atrocities in the Iraq war.

>>>> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
>>>> See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes




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Thanks for the info.
Now people can decide whether the book is worth the outrageous sum demanded.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:16:45 +1000, "goharrygo" 
wrote:

>Dear my brothers,
>Voldemort killed Hermione. Yes, that's true. And we knew that 2 days ago.

>This is the end of the not yet published (someone could call that 0day) book
>                Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows .

>At the end of the story Hagrid was killed by Snape in the attempt of ambush 
>Hermione and Ron.

>Ron and Hermione flees in privet drive but Voldermort, surprising them, 
>engaged a magical duel with Ron and Hermione.

>Voldemort attacked trough the imperius curse and Hermione, to protect the 
>life of Ron fight hardly for more than 6 pages and then finally die.
>(boring, very boring... it's always the same story!)

>Then, to make a long story short, Harry came up, killed all the bad guys and 
>Hogwarts against became a good place to stay and have fun.

>Ah, i missed one important information about Draco Malfoy, he started to 
>create Horcrux (for fun and profit!).
>The end.



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>Anonymous nobody@remailer.paranoici.org said:
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:25:49 -0700, Leftists = traitors wrote:

>> > Lawyer doggedly pursues neo-Nazis using the Internet 
>> > The result has been astring of tribunal victories -- and threats 
>> > Don Butler, CanWest NewsService

>> CanWest - that's all I need to see. The media empire run by the Asper
>> kike.

To find out more about this communist, scumbag menace to free
expression, just do a Google search on his name. 
And then pay him a visit:

Richard Warman lives in co-op housing called Co-op Voisins.
Richard Warman
512-440 Wiggins Privee
Ottawa, Ontario K1N 1A7 Canada
Phone: 613-233-2070
The website of his co-op can be found here:
http://www.chaseo.org/voisins/

Aerial photos and map to _512-440 Wiggins Privee_:
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209293_1024.ts1170371065000.jpg
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209298_1024.ts1170371071000.jpg

Encourage your readers to email the co-op and complain about their
resident (he may get kicked out if they get enough complaints)

I believe that the management at the co-op should be aware of the 
fact that Richard Warman himself associates with a violent street gang
(ARA) and has previously passed private information on to them. 
This street gang has posted Paul Fromm's and other peoples' home 
addresses online.

The management can be contacted by email at: voisins@eisa.com

By fax: (613) 565-3050
or by phone: (613) 565-0284

I'm sure that if the people at the co-op realize that Warman's
involvement with this shit may make their building a target 
(caution. no direct or veiled threats. there is no need for that) 
that they might not want a target living within them.

Hopefully this will get him evicted from his place and give him
something else to worry about for a bit. Or he won't realize 
what's going on while he is in the U.S. trying to find a cop
that will blow him.

E-mail: richardwarman@yahoo.ca
Employer: Bernie "Superkike" Farber, Canadian Jewish Congress
Mugshots of the white nigger can be found here:
http://www.canadianfreespeech.com/updates/warman/warman.html

Warman paranoia detailed here:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=44180

Warman Whines: “My Life is In Danger”

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TORONTO. January 30, 2007. More “security” fireworks at the Canadian 
Human Rights tribunal investigating Freedomsite webmaster Marc Lemire today.
Yelping “my life is in danger”, the complainant, veteran Sec. 13.1 complaint
filer Richard Warman, demanded that the Tribunal be reconvened just after 
it had broken for lunch.

The apparent cause of the hysteria was a small pamphlet left on several
chairs by another Warman victim Alexan Kulbashian. The pamphlet dealt 
with a highly inflammatory and racist posting that the Respondent will prove
through expert testimony was posted by professional anti- racist Warman in
his role as a snoop and troll spying on the websites of Canadian dissidents.

"I'm the masked man, just like my anti's, yeah, like the Lone Ranger- gonna
get all those 'bad Nazis' . I'm a hero, yes I am. Next time, I am NOT going
to be scared in court. Lone Ranger wouldn't be scared in court.."..
photo: http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4214/lonewarmannr7.jpg

The pamphlets which Mr. Kulbashian had left on the chairs of two middle aged
supporters of Marc Lemire had been snatched up by Anita Bomberg. She is a
lawyer for the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith an intervenor or
“interested party” active in this case against Mr. Lemire. She scuttled up and
urgently handed the pamphlets to Mr. Warman. Warman wrote a large part of the
Canadian Internet report section of B’nai Brith’s 2005 Audit of Anti-Semitic
Incidents.

In an obvious flutter and visibly upset, Warman had Tribunal Member (judge)
Athanasios Hadjis summoned back from his car on his way out to lunch.

Waving the offending pamphlet, Mr. Warman insisted “my life is in danger, my
security is threatened.” Alleging that Mr. Kulbashian had posted his home
address on the Internet and denounced him after Warman had filed a Sec. 13.1
complaint against him and several of his websites, Mr. Warman said he felt
threatened by the very presence of Mr. Kulbashian. “Words lead to the
holocaust,” Warman said, his voice rising...

FORUM COMMENTS ON JEWBOY WARMAN'S WHINING:

"Who knows whether he is actually fearful or whether this is just a marketing
ploy and part of his shtick. Anyone that actively campaigns to deny others
their God given natural Rights should be looking over his shoulder."

"Personally, I think it is just a ploy to get sympathy and to get a few more
people arrested."

"Warman is a modern day cleric in the Judaic system, a monk. He thought it
would be fun to ride the cutting edge of the Jew power in Canada and he's
getting a whole new experience."

    "I don’t know why Warwoman is so scared. Just because he is worried about
repercussions for the lives he has ruined?
     He has nothing to fear. Just because white people are known hunters who
can shoot a high powered hunting riffle with accuracy for a few hundred yards.
Just because we blend in so well with everyone around him does not mean he
will get a knife in the diaphragm, or back, or neck by the jogger near his
home when he steps out to get the morning paper. Hell, something
could happen in the restroom at the courthouse. Someone who blends in like
white people do could even tamper with food if Warman goes out to eat.
     Now I am just running over things that might be on Warwoman’s mind, I’m
not saying anyone has plans to do any of these things. If I was out fucking up
peoples lives like this asshat is, I would be very very concerned for my
safety. People can only take so much.
     And Wartman, I know you will be reading this so I will give you some free
advice. Depends are a good product. If I were in your shoes I would be pissing
myself every time a car backfired."

Richard Warman lives in co-op housing called Co-op Voisins.
Richard Warman
512-440 Wiggins Privee
Ottawa, Ontario K1N 1A7 Canada
Phone: 613-233-2070
The website of his co-op can be found here:
http://www.chaseo.org/voisins/

Aerial photos and map to _512-440 Wiggins Privee_:
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209293_1024.ts1170371065000.jpg
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Many thanks for this useful info.

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:00:10 -0700, Jason P  wrote:

>SPOILER ALERT: DO NOT READ IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE ENDING SECRET

>What happens to the major characters?

>HARRY was the final horcrux. Willing to die, his sacrifice made
>Voldemort's attack rebound on the Dark Lord. He keeps the Hallows in
>order that they will never be used for evil, marries Ginny and has
>three children.

>RON and HERMIONE emerge unscathed from the final confrontation, and
>finally admit their feelings for each other. They have two children,
>and Ron passes his driving test.

>HAGRID is still the gamekeeper at Hogwarts, and keeps an eye on the
>next generation of wizards, along with Professor Neville Longbottom.

>DRACO MALFOY was saved by Harry. He also gets married, and has a son,
>Scorpius. We don't get to know the name of his wife.

>SEVERUS SNAPE was in love with Harry's mother, and worked as a double
>agent for Dumbledore throughout Voldemort's reign. He was murdered by
>Voldemort when his essential goodness was revealed.

>R.A.B was REGULUS BLACK, and played little part in the novel.

>LUPIN and TONKS got married, had a child, and died in the Battle
>against Voldemort. Their son is adopted by the Potters.

>DOBBY, MAD-EYE MOODY, FRED WEASLEY, CRABBE and PETER PETTIGREW all
>died as well.

>VOLDEMORT died, because he didn't believe in love.

>--- --- --- --- ---
>©2007 Scotsman.com



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On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 04:11:18 GMT, "Greg Carr"  wrote:
>"jimjames5417"  wrote in message 
>news:1184543364.837950.10080@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jul 15, 5:57 pm, robertpeff...@aol.com wrote:
>>> Angus Reid Global Monitor : Polls & Research
>>> Canadians Want Sexual Orientation in Charter
>>> February 13, 2007

>>> (Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Most Canadians believe sexual
>>> orientation rights are just as important as other existing rights,
>>> according to a poll by SES Research. 62 per cent of respondents would
>>> approve of the inclusion of sexual orientation equality rights in the
>>> Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

>Change the Constitution so that homosexuality is a death penalty crime along 
>with rape and bestiality. Glad to see that despite decades of being told 
>that being homosexual is ok by the media and the education system and most 
>politicians as well as Anglican and United church leaders among others that 
>38% reject protecting their equality rights. End same-sex marriage. I 
>thought the declining birth rate was a concern for some. This is not  a step 
>in the right direction to solve that problem.

Good on you, Greg.
Not only jail the perverts and AIDS-spreaders.

Faggots are good for incineration as well.


>>> Additionally, 54 per cent of respondents think the courts, and not
>>> Parliament, should have the final decision on the topic of rights
>>> issues.

>>> In 1977, Quebec became the first jurisdiction in Canada to amend the
>>> province's Charter of Human Rights to include sexual orientation as a
>>> prohibited ground for discrimination.

>No surprise it has the lowest birth rate.

Fags do not reproduce, because they are more involved in spreading diseases.

>>> In July 2005, Canada legalized same-sex marriage. The legislation
>>> covers civil ceremonies, and states that no members of the clergy
>>> would be forced to perform a same-sex wedding unless they so desire.
>>> More than 12,000 marriage licenses have been issued to gay and lesbian
>>> couples in Canada.

>total lie. Barely a thousand have been issued and the first ABOMINATION 
>marriage ended in divorce since they couldn't handle the pressure.

>>> In December 2006, the Canadian government-headed by Conservative prime
>>> minister Stephen Harper-introduced a motion which sought to "restore
>>> the traditional definition of marriage without affecting civil unions,
>>> and while respecting existing same-sex marriages." The motion was
>>> rejected in a 175-123 House of Commons vote.

>Too bad. Try again. This time affecting civil unions and not respecting 
>existing same-sex marriages as well.

>>> Polling Data

>>> As you may know, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms includes equality
>>> rights based on race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion,
>>> sex, age and mental or physical disability. Do you support or oppose
>>> adding sexual orientation to the equality rights section of the
>>> Charter?

>Against.

>>> Support
>>>  62%

>>> Oppose
>>>  29%
>>>
>>> Unsure
>>>  9%
>>>
>>> In your opinion, should the courts or Parliament have the final
>>> decision related to rights issues?
>>>
>>> Courts
>>>  54%
>>>
>>> Parliament
>>>  31%
>>>
>>> Unsure
>>>  15%

>Courts but then the politicians appoint them and enact the Constitution and 
>the laws.
>>
>> Source: SES Research
>>> Methodology: Telephone interviews with 1,002 Canadian adults,
>>> conducted from Nov. 5 to Nov. 9, 2006. Margin of error is 3.1 per cent.




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>On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, "Venceremos"  wrote:

>>The Accusations

>>     Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>>     Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
>>     British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
>>     escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
>>     February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

>>     I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
>>     I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
>>     deeds of the war.

>>     While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still
>>     on my arm

>>     Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
>>     uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

>>     Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

>>     Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>     little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>>     when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>>     (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

>>     These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>>     published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>>     "I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
>>     commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
>>     in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
>>     future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
>>     directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>     political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>     authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

>>     This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>>     lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
>>     Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
>>     collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>     hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
>>     Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
>>     camps, the price...was not too high for me.

>>     "...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
>>     Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
>>     While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
>>     another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
>>     with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>     he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>>     "Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
>>     a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

>>     "As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
>>     between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
>>     immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>>     would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>>     blood to achieve his political goal...
>>     'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
>>     this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
>>     service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
>>     would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>     concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>>     That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
>>     (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

>>     Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
>>     do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
>>     money and military equipment."

>>     Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>     According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
>>     When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
>>     citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
>>     Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
>>     views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>>     official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
>>     Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
>>     of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>     -88-

>KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

>Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER, 
>and RUMKOWSKI!!
>The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

>Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi 
>GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


>On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer  wrote:

>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest.......

>>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>>Date: 1997/07/12

>>The Kastner Case

>>Introduction

>>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>>and will show that on this question 'The documentation available is
>>overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks
>>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>>most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>>3CR for anti-semitism.

>>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>>what Kastner was accused of.

>>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>>been unable to find out what it is all about.

>>The Accusations

>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>>he wrote:

>>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>>Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>>of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there.

>>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>>not too high for me.

>>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)

>>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>>The Verdict

>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>>backfire on the censors themselves.

>>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.

>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>>the Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.

>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.

>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.

>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.

>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>>expensively if honorably guided.

>>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.

>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.

>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?

>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.

>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from the book of the living.

>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.

>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>>to another."

>>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>>General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>>"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.

>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.

>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.

>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.

>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>>the good intention of good Becher'.

>>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>>Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>>in Nuremberg.

>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements." (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.

>>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>>matter.

>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.

>>But the story does not end there.

>>The Reaction

>>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>>now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.

>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:

>>"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)

>>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
>>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

>>"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>>defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).

>>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:

>>"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>>defense." (23 June 1955)

>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.

>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>> disclose." (23 June 1955)

>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.

>>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
>>*Ma'ariv*:

>>"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>>of our history!

>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)

>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand here
>>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>>representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p. 268)

>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.

>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.

>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.

>>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>>court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>rehabilitated'.

>>The Majority Judgement

>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.

>>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>>totally missing the point.

>>Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>>Kastner.
>>They JOINED him.

>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:

>>"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>>'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>>protocol 465).

>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which on can
>>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

>>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a moral and public point of view...

>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger....

>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.

>>The Minority Judgement

>>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

>>"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others....

>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.'

>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>>bribery, etc - and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a claim of such good faith...

>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...

>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
>>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.

>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.

>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

>>Conclusion

>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration with the Nazis.

>>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the 'dragging in
>>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships'.

>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.

>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>>being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.

>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.

>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.

>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>>'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, 'now dead'. Or
>>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>>Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>>before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
>>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>>secret service.
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
>>admitted in court during the murder trial).

>>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>>dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
>>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>>at least as an insurance policy.

>>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>>existed.
>>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.

>>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

>>We shall go on to prove this in detail.

>>Elias Davidsson - Oldugata 50 - 101 Reykjavik - Iceland
>>Tel. (354)-552-6444     Fax: (354)-552-6579
>>Email: edavid@itn.is     URL:  http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , 
or to Steve Horn ,
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, 
homosexuals and the like.



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>Anonymous nobody@remailer.paranoici.org said:
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:25:49 -0700, Leftists = traitors wrote:

>> > Lawyer doggedly pursues neo-Nazis using the Internet 
>> > The result has been astring of tribunal victories -- and threats 
>> > Don Butler, CanWest NewsService

>> CanWest - that's all I need to see. The media empire run by the Asper
>> kike.

To find out more about this communist, scumbag menace to free
expression, just do a Google search on his name. 
And then pay him a visit:

Richard Warman lives in co-op housing called Co-op Voisins.
Richard Warman
512-440 Wiggins Privee
Ottawa, Ontario K1N 1A7 Canada
Phone: 613-233-2070
The website of his co-op can be found here:
http://www.chaseo.org/voisins/

Aerial photos and map to _512-440 Wiggins Privee_:
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209293_1024.ts1170371065000.jpg
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209298_1024.ts1170371071000.jpg

Encourage your readers to email the co-op and complain about their
resident (he may get kicked out if they get enough complaints)

I believe that the management at the co-op should be aware of the 
fact that Richard Warman himself associates with a violent street gang
(ARA) and has previously passed private information on to them. 
This street gang has posted Paul Fromm's and other peoples' home 
addresses online.

The management can be contacted by email at: voisins@eisa.com

By fax: (613) 565-3050
or by phone: (613) 565-0284

I'm sure that if the people at the co-op realize that Warman's
involvement with this shit may make their building a target 
(caution. no direct or veiled threats. there is no need for that) 
that they might not want a target living within them.

Hopefully this will get him evicted from his place and give him
something else to worry about for a bit. Or he won't realize 
what's going on while he is in the U.S. trying to find a cop
that will blow him.

E-mail: richardwarman@yahoo.ca
Employer: Bernie "Superkike" Farber, Canadian Jewish Congress
Mugshots of the white nigger can be found here:
http://www.canadianfreespeech.com/updates/warman/warman.html

Warman paranoia detailed here:

http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=44180

Warman Whines: “My Life is In Danger”

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

TORONTO. January 30, 2007. More “security” fireworks at the Canadian 
Human Rights tribunal investigating Freedomsite webmaster Marc Lemire today.
Yelping “my life is in danger”, the complainant, veteran Sec. 13.1 complaint
filer Richard Warman, demanded that the Tribunal be reconvened just after 
it had broken for lunch.

The apparent cause of the hysteria was a small pamphlet left on several
chairs by another Warman victim Alexan Kulbashian. The pamphlet dealt 
with a highly inflammatory and racist posting that the Respondent will prove
through expert testimony was posted by professional anti- racist Warman in
his role as a snoop and troll spying on the websites of Canadian dissidents.

"I'm the masked man, just like my anti's, yeah, like the Lone Ranger- gonna
get all those 'bad Nazis' . I'm a hero, yes I am. Next time, I am NOT going
to be scared in court. Lone Ranger wouldn't be scared in court.."..
photo: http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4214/lonewarmannr7.jpg

The pamphlets which Mr. Kulbashian had left on the chairs of two middle aged
supporters of Marc Lemire had been snatched up by Anita Bomberg. She is a
lawyer for the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith an intervenor or
“interested party” active in this case against Mr. Lemire. She scuttled up and
urgently handed the pamphlets to Mr. Warman. Warman wrote a large part of the
Canadian Internet report section of B’nai Brith’s 2005 Audit of Anti-Semitic
Incidents.

In an obvious flutter and visibly upset, Warman had Tribunal Member (judge)
Athanasios Hadjis summoned back from his car on his way out to lunch.

Waving the offending pamphlet, Mr. Warman insisted “my life is in danger, my
security is threatened.” Alleging that Mr. Kulbashian had posted his home
address on the Internet and denounced him after Warman had filed a Sec. 13.1
complaint against him and several of his websites, Mr. Warman said he felt
threatened by the very presence of Mr. Kulbashian. “Words lead to the
holocaust,” Warman said, his voice rising...

FORUM COMMENTS ON JEWBOY WARMAN'S WHINING:

"Who knows whether he is actually fearful or whether this is just a marketing
ploy and part of his shtick. Anyone that actively campaigns to deny others
their God given natural Rights should be looking over his shoulder."

"Personally, I think it is just a ploy to get sympathy and to get a few more
people arrested."

"Warman is a modern day cleric in the Judaic system, a monk. He thought it
would be fun to ride the cutting edge of the Jew power in Canada and he's
getting a whole new experience."

    "I don’t know why Warwoman is so scared. Just because he is worried about
repercussions for the lives he has ruined?
     He has nothing to fear. Just because white people are known hunters who
can shoot a high powered hunting riffle with accuracy for a few hundred yards.
Just because we blend in so well with everyone around him does not mean he
will get a knife in the diaphragm, or back, or neck by the jogger near his
home when he steps out to get the morning paper. Hell, something
could happen in the restroom at the courthouse. Someone who blends in like
white people do could even tamper with food if Warman goes out to eat.
     Now I am just running over things that might be on Warwoman’s mind, I’m
not saying anyone has plans to do any of these things. If I was out fucking up
peoples lives like this asshat is, I would be very very concerned for my
safety. People can only take so much.
     And Wartman, I know you will be reading this so I will give you some free
advice. Depends are a good product. If I were in your shoes I would be pissing
myself every time a car backfired."

Richard Warman lives in co-op housing called Co-op Voisins.
Richard Warman
512-440 Wiggins Privee
Ottawa, Ontario K1N 1A7 Canada
Phone: 613-233-2070
The website of his co-op can be found here:
http://www.chaseo.org/voisins/

Aerial photos and map to _512-440 Wiggins Privee_:
http://preview.sspade2.photosite.com/~photos/tn/8209293_1024.ts1170371065000.jpg
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 07:22:29 -0700, Leftists = traitors 
wrote:
>On Jul 11, 10:36 pm, "Chom Noamsky"  wrote:
>> Do you think calling for the death of Jews, blacks and retards is stepping
>> over the bounds of what should be tolerated as free speech?

>Let him.  Who cares?  Charging people with crimes should come after
>they either commit them or actively PLAN them.
>Idle talk about them is nothing.  Stifling free speech is the thin
>edge of the wedge.

Warman does not believe in normal freedoms for people in Canada, 
since he follows the orders of his puppetmasters.

Warman deserves to be harrassed the same way that he does to others.

Notice that he looks just as faggotty as his sidekick Gay Ken Mcvay!!




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>On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, "Venceremos"  wrote:

>>The Accusations

>>     Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>>     Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
>>     British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
>>     escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
>>     February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

>>     I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
>>     I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
>>     deeds of the war.

>>     While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still
>>     on my arm

>>     Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
>>     uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

>>     Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

>>     Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>     little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>>     when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>>     (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

>>     These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>>     published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>>     "I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
>>     commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
>>     in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
>>     future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
>>     directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>     political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>     authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

>>     This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>>     lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
>>     Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
>>     collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>     hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
>>     Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
>>     camps, the price...was not too high for me.

>>     "...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
>>     Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
>>     While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
>>     another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
>>     with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>     he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>>     "Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
>>     a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

>>     "As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
>>     between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
>>     immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>>     would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>>     blood to achieve his political goal...
>>     'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
>>     this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
>>     service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
>>     would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>     concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>>     That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
>>     (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

>>     Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
>>     do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
>>     money and military equipment."

>>     Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>     According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
>>     When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
>>     citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
>>     Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
>>     views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>>     official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
>>     Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
>>     of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>     -88-

>KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

>Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER, 
>and RUMKOWSKI!!
>The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

>Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi 
>GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


>On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer  wrote:

>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest.......

>>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>>Date: 1997/07/12

>>The Kastner Case

>>Introduction

>>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>>and will show that on this question 'The documentation available is
>>overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks
>>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>>most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>>3CR for anti-semitism.

>>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>>what Kastner was accused of.

>>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>>been unable to find out what it is all about.

>>The Accusations

>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>>he wrote:

>>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>>Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>>of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there.

>>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>>not too high for me.

>>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)

>>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>>The Verdict

>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>>backfire on the censors themselves.

>>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.

>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>>the Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.

>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.

>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.

>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.

>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>>expensively if honorably guided.

>>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.

>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.

>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?

>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.

>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from the book of the living.

>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.

>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>>to another."

>>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>>General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>>"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.

>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.

>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.

>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.

>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>>the good intention of good Becher'.

>>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>>Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>>in Nuremberg.

>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements." (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.

>>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>>matter.

>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.

>>But the story does not end there.

>>The Reaction

>>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>>now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.

>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:

>>"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)

>>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
>>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

>>"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>>defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).

>>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:

>>"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>>defense." (23 June 1955)

>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.

>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>> disclose." (23 June 1955)

>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.

>>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
>>*Ma'ariv*:

>>"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>>of our history!

>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)

>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand here
>>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>>representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p. 268)

>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.

>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.

>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.

>>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>>court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>rehabilitated'.

>>The Majority Judgement

>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.

>>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>>totally missing the point.

>>Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>>Kastner.
>>They JOINED him.

>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:

>>"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>>'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>>protocol 465).

>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which on can
>>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

>>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a moral and public point of view...

>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger....

>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.

>>The Minority Judgement

>>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

>>"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others....

>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.'

>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>>bribery, etc - and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a claim of such good faith...

>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...

>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
>>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.

>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.

>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

>>Conclusion

>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration with the Nazis.

>>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the 'dragging in
>>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships'.

>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.

>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>>being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.

>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.

>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.

>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>>'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, 'now dead'. Or
>>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>>Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>>before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
>>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>>secret service.
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
>>admitted in court during the murder trial).

>>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>>dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
>>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>>at least as an insurance policy.

>>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>>existed.
>>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.

>>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

>>We shall go on to prove this in detail.

>>Elias Davidsson - Oldugata 50 - 101 Reykjavik - Iceland
>>Tel. (354)-552-6444     Fax: (354)-552-6579
>>Email: edavid@itn.is     URL:  http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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or to Steve Horn ,
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:01:45 -0400, in alt.revisionism "Neil Harrington"
 wrote:

>From Prof. Norman Finkelstein's site, January 2006 article

New Woes at the House of Hucksters (w/Finkelstein's comment)

NGF comments: In The Holocaust Industry I documented the World Jewish 
Congress's double shakedown of Swiss banks and Nazi holocaust victims. The 
mastermind of this plot was a repellant sewer rat named Rabbi Israel Singer 
who headed the World Jewish Congress. In the appendix to the second 
paperback edition of my book I stated that Singer won't be stopped "unless 
he is finally put where he belongs, behind bars." It seems that day might 
not be so far off. In the past year it has been reported that while 
denouncing the Swiss banks for using secrecy laws to deny Jews access to 
their Holocaust-era accounts, Singer himself opened up a secret Swiss bank 
account where he was squirreling away monies pilfered from the World Jewish 
Congress. Now it seems that the House of Hucksters is beset with yet new 
scandals.

Ganzfried, the Swiss journalist, has been sharply critical of Jewish 
communal efforts to win back Holocaust-era assets, which have roiled Swiss 
Jews' relations with their neighbors. He said his upcoming articles will be 
aimed at documenting the shortcomings in that process.


WJC Fights Publication Of Articles On Its Woes

January 20, 2006 | The Forward
By NATHANIEL POPPER

The World Jewish Congress is fighting to block publication in Switzerland of 
a series of magazine articles that reportedly will contain damaging new 
allegations about the organization's management and handling of funds.

(article continues at this link)

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=3&ar=55 




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Normal, sensible people owning a quality car, would include in their insurance
coverage, provision for a rental car, usually for up to 30 days.

Admittedly, this coverage costs a few dollars.

It seems that you are just a cheap skinflint, trying to blame Acura for YOUR
mistake in not having adequate insurance.

It was not Acura who caused your accident, but your wife.

You should maybe try to sue the driver of the vehicle that you claim caused
the accident, and perhaps they may cover rental costs.

In any case, it most definitely has nothing to do with Acura.



On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:39:45 -0700, "06CSX.3.19.26@gmail.com"
<06CSX.3.19.26@gmail.com> wrote:

>Honda likes to advertise that they offer above average service... Acura,
>prides itself on being the luxury division so one might expect luxury
>service. But given the following set of circumstances, what do you
>think?
>
>May 26th my wife's '06 Acura CSX was involved in a single vehicle
>accident by narrowly avoiding the car running a red light at 11
>o'clock on a Friday night.  Unfortunately, the CSX sustains not only
>body damage, but some pretty impressive undercarriage and safety
>equipment damage.
>
>We sent the car to the body shop where we get most of the work ever
>required on our cars, Clear Collision.  CC works with Manitoba Public
>Insurance but in order to get several safety measures properly fixed
>it needs to be sent to the dealer.
>
>This is the part where Crown Acura, a Dilarwi Group car dealership and
>the only Acura dealer in Manitoba, gets involved.
>
>The car is brought to the dealership on July 9th.  Looked and on the
>10th and work starts on the 11th.  It is now the 27th and various
>parts are being shipped, have arrived, been mislabeled, not installed,
>and safety checks not yet completed as a result.  EIGHTEEN days to not
>have the car even close to being road worthy yet.  According to the
>service fellow, they can build an entire CSX in under 6 hours... of
>course, that is before they have your money!
>
>So, with a vacation pending on Sunday, no car in sight, it would seem
>reasonable that Acura would want to keep an unhappy Acura customer
>slightly more mollified by providing them with some assistance in the
>way of a rental car, or some such option, for the pending vacation.  A
>reasonable consumer might think that, wouldn't one?
>
>The answer according to Acura Rental and Customer Care - is no.  This
>is not Acura's problem.
>
>Let's see here, Crown Acura (Acura Canada's licensee) has had the car
>for 18 days with no end in sight for the car being road worthy.  Parts
>have arrived that have been mislabeled and therefore useless - more
>than useless, they have slowed down the repair process - and the
>answer is not our problem.
>
>Friday afternoon after an hour of watching the service fellow try all
>the available avenues available to him, he passes the file over to the
>service manager.  At 4:15 he suggests that he will make some calls to
>see what he can do.
>
>We head back at 5:15, still no contact from Crown Acura.  After going
>around the "we're Acura customers that are unhappy" - "we're not
>responsible" shtick a few times, the service manager comes up with a
>solution that gets them off the hook for their part of this debacle...
>they will strip out a shoulder harness from an '07 CSX and put it into
>our '06.  That way, Crown Acura has provided the most minimal level of
>service required.
>
>Does this sound like the level of service you might expect from a
>luxury car company?
>
>I suggest that you very carefully consider your options when buying a
>new Honda luxury car... does it sound to you like Acura has any clue
>what the expectations of its clientele are?
>
>I have received far superior service from your run of mill North
>American car dealerships.  Why bother paying for the Honda/Acura name;
>when you can save yourself $5-10,000 and buy local?



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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:18:19 GMT, "Roy"  wrote:
>"The Right One"  wrote in message 
>news:5Jwri.19185$rX4.1562@pd7urf2no...
>> While Cherranna goes broke
>>
>> Shell applies to build $27B oilsands plant
>>
>> Royal Dutch Shell Plc has applied to build a massive oilsands 
>> upgrading complex at the site of its Edmonton, Alberta, 
>> refinery that could cost as much as $27-billion 

The Shell refinery is NOT IN DEADMONTON!!

It is in Fort Saskatchewan, about 50 km north of the dump called STABmonton!!


>> (US$25-billion), putting it among Canada's costliest projects, 
>> it said on Monday.
>> Shell said Upgrader 2 would be built in four 100,000 barrel a 
>> day stages, processing tar-like bitumen from the Athabasca Oil 
>> Sands Project in northern Alberta -- which is undergoing a 
>> multibillion-dollar expansion -- as well as its steam-driven 
>> oil sands projects in the same region.
>>
>> Construction on Shell's new project could start in 2009 and 
>> the first phase would be operational by 2012, the Anglo-Dutch 
>> oil major said. It did not give a timetable for future phases.
>>
>> Overall costs are estimated at $22-billion to $27-billion, 
>> Shell said in a regulatory document.
>>
>> http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=d249822e-efa1-4032-b517-379a63d0f28d&k=9109
>>
>> Come to Alberta
>>
>> There are jobs, jobs, jobs, and more jobs.
>> -- 
>> Terry Pearson
>-
>But no affordable homes, so bring a tent with you.

And the cops will hassle the tent dwellers, who are trespassing on property.




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ADL ZYDS Dislike Methodists' for Divesting From israel

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:24:43 -0600 (MDT), in soc.culture.europe FrankArthur
 wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:32:23 GMT, in soc.culture.jewish "torresdD"
 wrote:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3418316,00.html
Methodists 'bordering anti-Semitism'

ADL Director slams American Christian group for Israel
divestment call

Yaakov Lappin Published:
06.27.07, 16:37 / Israel Jewish Scene

The United Methodist Church's call to divest from companies linked to
Israel "is bordering on anti-Semitism,"

Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman told Ynetnews
on Wednesday.

Foxman furiously condemned recommendations made by the
New England branch of the Methodist Church for its members to divest
"from twenty companies identified as supporting the Israeli occupation
in Palestine."

The recommendations were made by a "task force" of clergy and church
members set up to implement a "resolution to end the Israeli occupation,"
a statement by the Church added.

Foxman, who is currently in Israel, said it was "sad that a religious
institution whose job should be to reconcile continues to be biased
and bigoted."

He added that in the past two years, "there has been a war perpetrated by
Hizbullah, katyushas rockets, and terrorist acts.

Now Hamas, that does not recognize Israel's right to exist and perpetrated
violence, has gotten itself elected, and is in control of a million and a half
Palestinians.

And the Methodists are still there to teach Israel a lesson."

"My reaction is one of outrage to this biased decision,
which borders on anti-Semitism.

The facts show that any decent fair-minded, spiritual, godly person would not
come to a conclusion to boycott the victim, the one that has been praying for
peace, suing for peace, hoping for peace.

To make Israel the target is just outrageous," Foxman added.

In the Church's statement, William P. Aldrich, chairperson
of the 'Divestment Task Force,' was quoted as saying:
"Selective divestment is consistent with the United Methodist commitment
to a just and sustainable peace for all the people of the Middle East."

He added that the divestment campaign
"offers a tangible way of working toward this goal."

In its press release, the Church said it knew its actions would not have an
impact on Israel's economy, adding that "this is not the goal."

"The goal is to make all United Methodists and other Americans aware of their
relationship to companies that benefit from the Israeli occupation," the
statement added.

"The urgency of the humanitarian crisis in the occupied Palestinian
territories cannot be overstated," the United Methodist Church
declared on its website.

Church ackowledges bias

In a separate development, the ADL has welcomed the United
Church of Christ's (UCC) acknowledgment that it has advocated
an unbalanced and one-sided policy against the state of Israel.

The UCC passed a new resolution this week calling for a more
balanced approach to the Middle East conflict.

"We are heartened that members of the United Church of Christ
have come to recognize that Israel deserves a fair hearing and
that some of their policy declarations in the past were based
on unfair and biased assumptions," Foxman said.

"It is a welcome development, and the start of a healthy process
toward a better understanding of a very complex and complicated
history," he added.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Copies of all ads from Rodd and his many aliases are forwarded to CRA, 
Head Office Ottawa - Special Investigations - Tax Avoidance Section, 
as primae faciae proof of illegal tax avoidance activities.
So far, a full CD of his ads has been supplied,with more being readied.

He sure has a lot of junk for sale, under all his aliases.


On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:46:56 GMT, ErnstZundholz
 wrote:

If you must deal with this scammer, make sure you get a receipt showing 
name,address, phone and Social Insurance Number.
This would be evidence for when you have to sue him.

Or, if the police fiind out that what you bought was stolen goods, then at
least you would have some evidence for suing him.


>On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:20:17 GMT, JimMcCarthy
> wrote:

>>Not only does David Poon exist, he reports to William Reich, Director, for the
>>Edmonton CRA office.

>>Glad to see that you are admitting to being an unlicenced second-hand dealer
>>of computers, flooding the newsgroups with all your secondhand computers 
>>and parts.

>>Now the City Licence inspectors will be demanding money for operating 
>>without a licence.

>>Then, the City Tax department will force you to get a rezoning, for operating
>>a second-hand business from the home.

>>And, you might even get fired from working at Dell, and selling their used
>>junk parts, in competition with their new crap, which is in contravention to
>>their terms of employment you signed.


>>On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:52:31 GMT, "RodnSue"  wrote:

>>>DAVID POON is a figment of your sad imagination, no such person exists at 
>>>canada place dill hole, your such an old sienile man. A poor excuse for a 
>>>human, you should be hung upside down on a tree, with a fork stuck in your 
>>>ass. David Poon will then appear and smear yougurt all over your pulsating 
>>>balls. No thats too good for ya....1 Bullet would do....
>>>David Poon  can blow me, and lick my nutts, because he dont exists. 
>>>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>>Now down to business, I have 23-Optiplex GX 270`s, 12-280`s and a bunch of 
>>>Latitude`s to unload cheap, Just dont expect a warranty, because there as 
>>>real as David Poon.

>>>"BenJKramer"  wrote in message 
>>>news:eaebo2lgjldcrag4dhg523ei2qj0tr880o@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:59:54 GMT, "Mike W."  wrote:

>>>>>Hey dipshit...
>>>>>WHERE did Rodd ever say he bought this computer from his employer Dell ?

>>>> He admitted this several times in response to comments from another 
>>>> poster, claiming he worked on Dell's 3rd floor.

>>>>>Even so ? QUOTE me the regulation, asshole.. SHOW me where it says I can't
>>>>>resell a purchased used computer without running a business for it ? Show 
>>>>>me the regulation that says I can't sell a THOUSAND of them, so long as I am
>>>>>not doing it under a company name or charging any tax for it.

>>>> You need to read the Canada Income Tax Act, and also CRA Regulations.

>>>>>I am sure it's YOU the tax department is interested in, Bill. Probably 
>>>>>CSIS and the RCMP too. Oh and by the way ? The CRA? BY LAW has to list all
>>>>>employees publicly. No David Poon listed anywhere. You imagined him. You
>>>>>know it... Now we all know it.

>>>> CRA does have an Insp. David Poon, whom you can reach at Canada Place.

>>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in 
>>>>>message
>>>>>news:8k5kk2pqtpud3r9lapdd8rnbq46jrkcv8g@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2006 18:17:45 -0800, "Tangent"  wrote:

>>>>>> Buying and selling quantities of computers, purchased from the employer
>>>>>> DELL, at staff discount pricing, constitutes running a business under 
>>>>>> CRA  Regulations.

>>>>>> The tax department is very interested in the "underground economy" and 
>>>>>> tax avoiders. Just ask Bax and the senior people of Edmonton Freenet for
>>>>>> example.

>>>>>>>> The person he named has never in his life ever been to Saskatchewan, 
>>>>>>>> nor has had business dealings there either.

>>>>>>>> On the other hand, Inspector David Poon of S.I.-CRA will be 
>>>>>>>> considering what to do about Rod and his unlicenced second-hand computers 
>>>>>>>> business.

>>>>>>>> When the tax people visit Dell to verify how many computers you bought
>>>>>>>> and sold, do you still think that you will be working at Dell?




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To all of you who paid your taxes, remember that the BRONFMAN ZYDS 
screwed CRA out of $1,500 MILLION.

You and other taxpayers will have to make up the shortage.

Then there is the scam run by McVay and Bnai Brith - where they give
fraudulent donation receipts for payments for McVay's BUSINESS!!


On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 10:08:09 -0700, Sueee Shiksa Cohen 
wrote:

>Re: ZYDS $60 MILLION TAX FRAUD & BOGUS TAX RECEIPTS BY
>MCVAY/NIZKOR!!MONEY LAUNDERING!

>On 16 Oct 2004 20:53:45 -0000, HolohoaxByZHIDS   wrote:
>Perhaps Alan Baggett can get some honest SI Division of CCRA official
>to charge McVay and Bnai Brith with criminal fraud for issuing false
>charity donation receipts for payments to McVay's advertising
>business!!

>Then, CCRA can re-assess all those zhids who had filed for fraudulent 
>donations, and also CCRA would be entitled to not only taxes, but also
>penalties and interest!! The amount recovered should help to
>drastically reduce the national debt of Canada.

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>
>Foreword: Here are the key banner phrases to look for and to keep in
>mind:
>
>
>HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH $60 MILLION FRAUD
>The Tash folks, who may or may not have invited neo-Nazi Haider to
>their wedding, now have worse headaches to worry about.
>
>Huge tax scam exposed
>
>Religious group issued phony receipts for tens of millions
>
>
>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>--
>The Nizkor Project
>
>
>
>Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit Organization (NPO)
>Information Return Includes Form T1044
>.An NPO described in paragraph 149(1)(l) of the Income
>Tax Act is a club,society, or association that is
>organized and operated solely for:
>social welfare;
>civic improvement;
>pleasure or recreation;
>or any other purpose except profit.
>   Also, no part of the income of these organizations can
>be payable to or otherwise available for the personal
>benefit of any proprietor, member, or shareholder,
>unless the proprietor, member, or shareholder was a
>club, society,or association whose primary purpose
>was to promote amateur athletics in Canada.
>
>
>
>The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation
>with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada...
> Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their donation
>may call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224, and advise the
>receptionist that they wish to make a donation to the Nizkor
>Project...
>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>[#0235903-43-13]
>
>
>
>	-----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>http://www.usajewish.com/scripts/usaj/paper/Article.asp?ArticleID=932
>(Link active November 21, 2003. Archived locally as: yid_tax_scam)
>
>HASIDIC GROUP CHARGED WITH $60 MILLION FRAUD
>The Tash folks, who may or may not have invited neo-Nazi Haider to
>their wedding, now have worse headaches to worry about.
>
>Huge tax scam exposed
>
>Religious group issued phony receipts for tens of millions
>
>Hundreds of people and businesses in Montreal's Jewish community are
>to face criminal charges or be required to pay tens of millions of
>dollars in evaded taxes as a result of a guilty plea yesterday in a
>Saint-Jerome court. The guilty plea by a religious group connected to
>the Hasidic community in suburban Boisbriand capped a two-year
>investigation of what federal tax auditors say is the largest-ever tax
>fraud involving a religious organization in Quebec.
>
>The religious group, which is known as Construit Toujours Avec Bonte
>and has links to the Montreal Rabbinical College, pleaded guilty to
>issuing tax receipts for charitable donations that overstated the
>amount of the donation.
>
>A senior Montreal construction executive blew the whistle on the scam
>when he approached Revenue Canada, now part of the Canadian Customs
>and Revenue Agency, with taped information in 1997. The resulting
>investigation saw federal tax sleuths seize about $60 million in phony
>receipts from individuals and businesses in the Jewish community,
>court documents say.
>
>Joseph Gutstadt, president of Magil Construction International, the
>whistle-blower who exposed the fraud, said in a telephone interview
>last night from Israel: "I'm happy that, at the end of the day,
>justice has prevailed."
>
>But Gutstadt said he was disappointed that Construit Toujours was
>fined only $400,000, and that none of the administrators of the
>organization or the rabbinical college were charged.
>(Montreal Gazette, sent in by R. Shultz)
>
>In pursuit of donors linked to tax evasion Hundreds in Jewish
>community under scrutiny by federal officials. Federal tax
>investigators insisted yesterday that they will continue an
>investigation involving hundreds of people and businesses
>in the Jewish community suspected of participating in a
>charitable-donation tax fraud. The case involves about $60 million in
>claimed donations, federal tax officials said, making it Quebec's
>largest-ever tax fraud involving a religious organization.
>
>On Wednesday, a religious group connected to the Hasidic community of
>Tash, in suburban Boisbriand, pleaded guilty to issuing
>charitable-donation tax receipts which overstated the amounts actually
>given.
>
>Yesterday, the community, through a public-relations firm, asserted
>that government officials had agreed not to go after donors who
>participated in the scam. The same statement said the community's
>Montreal Rabbinical College would retain the right to issue
>charitable-donation receipts that can be used to reduce donors' tax
>liabilities.
>(Montreal Gazette, sent in by R. Shultz)
>
>
>
>Remember the key headline from above: "Religious group issued phony
>receipts for tens of millions"
>
>Here is essentially the same thing done by B'nai Brith to launder
>exempt donations to The Nizkor Project:
>
>The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay Director
>P.O. Box 244, Station A
>Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
>1-250-616-9431
>
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-
>1&as_umsgid=8f71th%241331%241@news.tht.net&lr=&hl=en
>(Archived locally as: BBsCUT)
>http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8f71th%241331%241%40news.tht.net&output=gp
>lain
>From: kmcvay@vex.net (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: How much of a cut does the B'nai Brith get from Nizkor?
>Date: 2000/05/08
>Message-ID: <8f71th$1331$1@news.tht.net>#1/1
>References: <2e2f77da.4cdf39c9@usw-ex0105-038.remarq.com>
>X-Trace: news.tht.net 957811441 35937 216.126.72.2
>(8 May 2000 18:44:01 GMT)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Reply-To: kmcvay@nizkor.org
>
>In article <2e2f77da.4cdf39c9@usw-ex0105-038.remarq.com>,
>Blakely   wrote:
>>http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html
>
>>The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative
>>affiliation with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith
>>Canada. The League is a national volunteer organization
>>dedicated to combatting antisemitism, racism and bigotry,
>>and to promoting human rights for all Canadians.
>
>>Donors wishing to use their VISA or MASTER CARD for their
>>donation may call B'nai Brith directly, at 1-416-633-6224,
>>and advise the receptionist >that they wish to make a
>>donation to the Nizkor Project; If you prefer, you can print
>>this form and send to:
>
>>The Nizkor Project
>>c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada
>>15 Hove Street
>>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8
>
>>Name:________________________________________
>>Street Address:____________________________________________
>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code___
>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________
>>Amount Enclosed: $___________
>
>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human
>>Rights of B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust
>>Fund" to the cheque's memo section. A portion of amounts donated
>>to the Trust Fund is used to build the Nizkor Endowment Fund.
>>If you prefer that all of your donation be invested for Nizkor's
>>future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft with the
>>notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests
>>should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for
>>Human Rights of B'nai Brith
>>Canada'.)
>
>
>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>[#0235903-43-13]
>
>>
>
>>How much of cut does this middle man for Nizkor get? 30 percent,
>>40 percent?
>
>Nizkor tenders 5% to the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith
>Canada. This is done to compensate the League for administration
>and accounting expenses. (This was done at my request, since the
>League offered to handle the fund on a pro bono basis, and I did
>not think that would be fair.)
>
>Ten per cent of all donated funds are credited to the Nizkor
>Endowment Fund. Fund assets are invested to provide support for
>Nizkor in perpetuity, and are not used for current expenses.
>
>>this also raises a few more questions, questions I am sure the
>>Nizkorites will avoid answering:
>
>I hate to burst your bubble, Bubba, but this information is
>public knowledge.
>
>>a) Why can't you write a check payable to Nizkor directly?
>
>You can, but it won't get cashed, since Nizkor does not have
>any bank accounts. If you feel the need, of course, by all means
>write a cheque to Nizkor. It will be returned to you promptly
>if you enclose a self-addressed, stamped envelope (Canadian
>postage only).
>
>>b) Why does Nizkor not list a PO Box or a valid physical
>>address?
>
>It does - see Whois.
>
>>c) Can the B'nai Brith prove every cent given to them for
>>Nizkor, actually goes to Nizkor?
>
>Yes, in fact, they can.
>
>>d) Why is Nizkor more secretive than the Klu Klux Klan is? The
>>American Knights gladly give out their phone number, street
>>address and PO Box. Nizkor does none of that.
>
>Tough break, eh? Nizkor's post office address is public knowledge,
>and that's as good as you're going to get. Live with it. (Who on
>earth would want a filthy-mouthed twit like Don Ellis calling them?)
>
>>e) Why does every other holocaust group gladly give their
>>personal information, but the Gentile ran Nizkor project does
>>not? All the Jewish run holocaust groups gladly will explain
>>where their donations come from.
>
>It's my part in the continuing global conspiracy to keep you
>ignorant, of course. (You are correct, however, in asserting that
>Nizkor is run by a gentile, but your bedfellows won't believe you.)
>
>>f) Does Ken McVay pay himself a salary for his work for Nizkor?
>
>Yup - I also appreciate revenue from public speaking and site
>advertising.
>
>
>
>The above only proves "one hand washes the other" and this statement
>made by Ken McVay "Nizkor tenders 5% to the League for Human Rights of
>B'nai Brith Canada. This is done to compensate the League for
>administration and accounting expenses." only shows him giving a
>"reward" to the very people who launder his exempt donations he
>receives which he is not by law entitled to receive on his own; hence
>the tax scheme devised to circumvent the law.
>
>As for Ken McVay's statement: "Ten per cent of all donated funds are
>credited to the Nizkor Endowment Fund. Fund assets are invested to
>provide support for Nizkor in perpetuity.." is also very telling
>seeing how Nizkor is Ken McVay so just substitute Ken McVay where you
>see Nizkor mentioned. It is Ken McVay Endowment Fund and it is Ken
>McVay Trust Fund and both being funded through B'nai Brith. Ken McVay
>is the sole operator (and sole recipient of exempt funding) of Nizkor.
>
>I.E.
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=3e060868_1%40news2.uncensored-
>news.com&rnum=1
>Subject: Is NIZKOR Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam?
>Message-ID: <3e060868_1@news2.uncensored-news.com>
>Date: 22 Dec 2002 18:46:15 GMT
>
>Here is what CCRA regs say about exempt donations and what is said
>about Nizkor.
>
>The Nizkor Project -- Ken McVay (Sole Operator)
>P.O. Box 244, Station A
>Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5K9 Canada
>1-250-616-9431
>
>
>Straight from CCRA: "we have no record of a registered
>charity by the name of Nizkor.org."
>
>Canadian revenue payers you need to contact CCRA and
>ask them how a website is able to receive "exempt
>donations" when it is neither a registered charity or
>a Non Profit Organization.
>
>A letter (included below) from CCRA advises me they
>never heard of NIZKOR.ORG so you all should be asking
>how Nizkor is offering:
>"Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax
>receipt" when it is nothing more than a website!
>  A ONE-MAN BUSINESS RUN BY KEN MCVAY!!
>
>CCRA said: "we have no record of a registered charity
>by the name of Nizkor.org." (Letter included below)
>Only registered charities are allowed to issue "Canadian
>receipts"!!
>
>"A registered charity is a charity that has specifically
>applied to the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency for
>registration and has been accepted as such. A registered
>charity can issue charitable receipts for tax purposes."
>CCRA rule included below with web link for verification!
>
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>From: Charity webmail 
>Sender: "Langdon, Blaine" 
>To: 
>Subject: Registered charity question.
>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:23:26 -0500
>X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)
>(On file and archived locally with all headers as: CCRAreply)
>
>Thank you for your e-mail.
>
>The Charities Directorate of the Canada Customs and
>Revenue Agency is responsible for the registration
>and compliance of charities in Canada.
>These organizations are similar to "exempt organizations"
>as are registered in the United States.
>However, we have no record of a registered charity
>by the name of Nizkor.org.
>
>Additionally, due to the confidentiality provisions
>of the Canadian Income Tax Act, I am unable to
>disclose information concerning a particular
>organization's tax affairs, including measures
>taken or to be taken by the Department resulting
>from complaints. However, I wish to assure you that
>all complaints received by the Department are
>treated seriously and are fully investigated,
>where appropriate.
>
>Finally, the annual information returns of
>Canadian registered charities are available to
>the public. However, as you will note from the above,
>Nizkor.org is not a registered charity.
>The non-profit information return which you
>describe is not available to the public.
>
>Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Blaine Langdon
>Charities Directorate
>
>	~~~~END~~~~
>
>LURKERS here is how Ken McVay and his Nizkor
>is robbing you:
>
>
>http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/tax/nonprofit/menu-e.html
>(Link active November 21, 2003. Archived locally as CCRAnpo)
>Non-profit organizations - Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency
>A non-profit organization (NPO) is a club, society, or association
>that's organized and operated solely for:
>
>social welfare
>civic improvement
>pleasure or recreation
>any other purpose except profit.
>
>
>Ken McVay's NIZKOR.ORG does not fall under any of the above
>categories.
>
>http://www.ccra-adrc.gc.ca/
>Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency
>
>Remember Canadian Tax Payers -
>It is YOU who are subsidizing Nizkor!
>Do you want your tax dollar subsidizing this web site?
>
>Here is Ken McVay, Director of The Nizkor Project, publicly stating:
>"Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website."
>
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-
>1&as_umsgid=99oro0%24259r%241@news.tht.net&lr=&hl=en
>(Archived locally as: NizkorNOTcharity)
>From: kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC)
>Subject: Re: ATTENTION NIZKOR: Income Tax Guide to the Non-Profit
>Organization (NPO) Information Return Form T1044
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:52:00 +0000 (UTC)
>Organization: The Nizkor Project, http://www.nizkor.org/
>Message-ID: <99oro0$259r$1@news.tht.net>
>References: 
><3abfe742$0$195@news.impulse.net>
>
>Poor Mr. Bradbury... if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.
>
>Nizkor is neither an NPO nor a Charity. Nizkor is a website.
>
>Paranoia is a terrible thing, particularly when coupled with Mr.
>Bradbury's abysmal ignorance.



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When TWO Jew media - Canadian Jew News, and Jewish Telegraph Agency 
both report the story, it must be true!!

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 18:25:51 GMT, scott@free.info wrote:

>Yehuda Bauer on the Wannsee Conference

>THE CANADIAN JEWISH NEWS, Jan. 30, 1992 

>Wannsee's importance rejected 
>London (JTA) - An Israeli Holocaust scholar has debunked the Wannsee
>Conference, at which top Nazi officials are said to have gathered at a
>villa in a Berlin suburb in 1942 to draw the blueprints of the "Final
>Solution." 

>According to Prof. Yehuda Bauer (photo) of the Hebrew University in
>Jerusalem, Wannsee was a meeting, "but hardly a conference", and
>"little of what was said there was executed in detail." 

>"The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at
>Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at."



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To see a video about the KOSHER TAX, go to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWn--jlRVAI&mode=related&search=

Thanks for posting this nice little introduction to the KosherNostra,
Tommy.

The Kosher industry is a fungus that has penetrated into every level of
US foods production, to the point that, even if you dig around 'til
you find a brand that *doesn't* bear the mark of the Kosher Beast,
most of the ingredients were still likely certified at some level, so
the Kashrus Khazars are still probably getting a cut.

The film indicates that a portion of the monies extracted from the
sleeping Gentiles in the Kosher racket goes to "support Israel"
(read OPPRESS PALESTINIANS), and this is almost undoubtedly the case.
The OU (Orthodox Union) is the Big Nose in the US Kash-R-Us market, and
they kick massive amounts of cash to support Zionist "causes" in
the Jewish State.

If the Khazars want to eat Kosher from a can, that's fine by me. But
let them pay for their own fetishes - pass around the plat at the ol'
synagogue. But it'd better be a damn BIG plate, as the film indicated
that they'd need to raise about 6 billion a year to replace the
monies that the Goyim currently unwittingly subsidize them.

One final note: As the film mentioned, some companies are now beginning
to balk - disbelieving the lies told them by the Kosher Racketeers, and
dumping certification.  Others are trying to get the best of both
worlds - for instance, right now I'm eating Planters Dry Roasted
Peanuts. On the package is a simple letter "K". It's not a
enclosed in a circle or a triangle, not enmeshed ins some fancy
pattern, just a simple "K" located approximately where an
"official" Kosher Symbol - owned by the racketeers- would be
placed.

This means that the company is self-regulating, and is NOT playing the
Kosher Racketeers game - OR paying them.    0:-(>

This is the company's way of telling the Kash-R-US Rabbis to take a
flying leap - as the Jews can't copyright the letter "K", (and
this drives these Food Nazis mad). Of course, Kosher Keeping Jew would
never buy the product because they know better - but the  "Kosher is
Better" Gentile consumer - those who have been duped into believing
that the Kosher seal somehow translates to mean a "better" product
(it doesn't - EVER) will never know the difference, and will buy it
anyway.


The shitty part for the Rabbinical Racketeers is that they CAN'T try
to educate the Gentile public on this matter - if they do, the jig'll
be up, and they'll soon be paying for their own picnic.  0:-(>


Will Planters (or Tabasco, etc) miss the Kosher Jewish market? Hell no!
Jews make up only about 2% of the US population, and only about 10% of
those are serious about keeping Kosher on a daily basis. To paraphrase
the ADL's article: The profit that companies make by selling mainline
products to Kosher Keeping Jews is SO low that "we can't even
calculate it".
**
Waldo
Observer at Large



Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!

When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the 
KOSHER TAX, who is more believable, them or liars such as you?

 Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
$30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!


On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:43:26 -0400, "zr"  wrote:

>You've got so much crap you should bottle it.
>Heinz & Libby both still have "cor" on their products. Just look on the back 
>of a bottle of Ketchup dimwit!
>Here is also another fact for you "herr grubber" the Heiress to the Heinz 
>fortune is a Jewess married to a Jew John F Kerry. You know the one, he ran 
>for President of the USA.
>Never mind Das Boat you get Das Boot imbecile.
>
>"Joe Bruno"  wrote in message 
>news:esbp729g8oqmc6h0b6hbodfj50rlfqgaa5@4ax.com...
>> Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!

>> When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the 
>> KOSHER TAX, who is more beleivable, them or liars such as you?

>> Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
>> $30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!

>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!

>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:53:33 -0500, "zr"  wrote:
>>
>>>Pure Bullshit!
>>>Next you'll be telling everyone Hallal foods are a rip off. Then Cereal, 
>>>and
>>>baby food.
>>>How about dog food.
>>>Isn't that what you white trash racists eat.
>>
>>>"Jules Streiker"  wrote in message
>>>news:ps7lt11vqd26jm3sc17tvahpierd7qhtha@4ax.com...
>>>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>>>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>>>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!
>>>>
>>>> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
>>>> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
>>>> part-time job!!
>>>>
>>>> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
>>>> extortion tax!!
>>>>
>>>> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>>>> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>>>> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>>>> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
>>>> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>>>> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>>>> qualified to do...
>>>>
>>>> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>>>> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>>>> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!
>>>>
>>>>>From: norma2339@charter.net
>>>>>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>>>>>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>>>>>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>>>>>"veranda"  wrote in message
>>>>>news:...
>>>>>> > >     veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since 
>>>>>> > > it
>>>>>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>>>>>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .
>>>>>> > >     The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>>>>>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost
>>>>
>>>>>>  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:9abc4e06.0304010305.50dc870e@posting.google.com...
>>>>>> > What duplication?  It is a symbol on the container and the cost 
>>>>>> > would
>>>>>> > not change in any way.  This "paranoia" is silly.
>>>>
>>>>>veranda : what 'paranoia' ?? we are talking about saving money .
>>>>>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>>>>>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>>>>>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>>>>>you knew that !
>>>>>Kosher is Israel's food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>>>>>we got our own  !  :)
>>>>
>>>>>Well, to set the record straight.  The Rabbinate council that approves
>>>>>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>>>>>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>>>>>doesn't really care.  It is not an item by item thing.  With the
>>>>>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>>>>>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>>>>>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>>>>>day.)
>>>>
>>>>>What would it save you--less than $10 a year.
>>>>
>>>>>All countries have their own Rabbinate Cousels, so don't think that it
>>>>>is just Canada with their own.  Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>>>>>have demanded more money?
>>>>
>>>>>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>>>>>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>>>>>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>>>>>couldn't make any money either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin 
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>>>>>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!
>>>>
>>>>>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>>>>>by Ernesto Cienfuegos
>>>>>La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>
>>>>>Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>>receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers
>>>>>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>>>>>attention.
>>>>
>>>>>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>>>>>of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can be found
>>>>>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>>>>>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>>>>>do some research into the subject. What we found
>>>>>certainly was "news" to us and it both shocked and angered us.
>>>>
>>>>>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>>>>>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>>>>>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>>>>>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>>>>>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>>>>>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>>>>>container, the Trader Joe's tea box and even the Glads plastic
>>>>>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.
>>>>
>>>>>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>>>>>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>>>>>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>>>>>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>>>>>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>>>>>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>>>>>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>>>>>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>>>>>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>>>>>that the mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher".
>>>>
>>>>>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and
>>>>>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>>>>>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>>>>>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>>>>>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>>>>>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher"
>>>>>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>>>>>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>>>>>products.
>>>>
>>>>>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>>>>>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>>>>>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>>>>>receive protection.
>>>>
>>>>>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>>>>>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>>>>>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>>>>>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>>>>>other similar markings.
>>>>
>>>>>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>>>>>sophisticated "Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the
>>>>>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>>>>>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>>>>>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>>>>>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>>>>>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>>>>>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>>>>>in New York City.
>>>>
>>>>>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>>>>>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>>>>>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>>>>>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>>The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>>>>>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>>>>>certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>>>>>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>>>>>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>>>>>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>>>>>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>>>>>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>>>>>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>>>>>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>>>>
>>>>>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>>>>>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>>>>>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>>>>>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.
>>>>
>>>>>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>>>>>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>>>>>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>>>>>up to "inspect" the company's operations.
>>>>>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>>>>>lucrative salaries.
>>>>
>>>>>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>>>>>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>>>>>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>>>>>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>>>>>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>>>>>it now.
>>>>
>>>>>Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will
>>>>>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>>>>>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>>>>>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>>>>>certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee"
>>>>>or "kosher plastic sandwich bags".
>>>>>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>>>>>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>>>>>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>>>>>other non-Jewish people?
>>>>>* * * * * * * * * * * *
>>>>
>>>>>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>>>>>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below, today's Southam newspapers
>>>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>>>all Heinz products.
>>>>
>>>>>Heinz declared this was done " to keep costs down" according
>>>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.
>>>>
>>>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>>>including those sold under the Libby's label.
>>>>
>>>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis).
>>>>
>>>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>From: tyler 
>>>>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>>>>consumers
>>>>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT
>>>>
>>>>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers
>>>>
>>>>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>>>>proof is easily found.
>>>>
>>>>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>The following has been snipped from:
>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm
>>>>
>>>>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website explains:
>>>>
>>>>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>>>>close investigation and supervision.
>>>>
>>>>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.
>>>>
>>>>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost is minimial to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>>>>that!
>>>>
>>>>>>...and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>>>>annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>>>>friends and neighbours if they  know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>>>>Jewish, they won't have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>>>>because something is certified.
>>>>
>>>>>>tyler
>>>>>>the consumer watchdog!!!
>>>>
>>>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>>>>
>>>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>>>>
>>>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>>> is a revolutionary act."
>>>> (George Orwell)
>>>>
>>>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>>>>
>>>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>>>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>>>
>>>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>>>>
>>>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>>> and impossible to ignore."
>>>> --John Bryant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Posted by:
>>>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>>>> 1836 NW 11th St
>>>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>>>> (405) 524-0576
>>>>
>>>> together with
>>>>
>>>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>>>> Henry who like
>>>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>>>>
>>>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>>>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>>>> VISIT me at:
>>>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>>> office: VISIT at:
>>>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>>>
>>>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>>>> should give an indication as to the why.
>>>>
>>>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>>>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>>>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>>>>
>>>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
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>>>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>>>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>>
>>>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>>>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David 
>>>> Michael's
>>>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and 
>>>> is
>>>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a 
>>>> grosvenor!!
>>>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>>>>
>>>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late
>>>> nights.
>>>>
>>>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
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>>>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>>>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>>>> work:(780)492-0473
>>>>
>>>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>>>>
>>>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>>> JEW-WATCH:
>>>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>>>>
>>>> Or, other useful websites include:
>>>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>>>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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>>>>
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>>>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
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>>>>
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Yesterday's TV news reported that the young man shot last week by police, was
running away, when police fired 6 shots into his back!!

Guess the crooked cops did not want a live wirness to their criminality? The
victim is still in intensive care in hospital, hanging on to life.

Yet another documented case of police brutality was reported in the Edmonton
Journal, page B2, on 1st July 2006.

Cst. Jan Cichon was finally charged with criminal assault, by her  own police
department, for brutalising another innocent civilian.


The Edmonton Journal for yesterday 29 June 2006 had a full page of letters to
the editor complaining about the police brutality!!

These comments are apart from concern by the taxpayers regarding the supposed
extra $2.2MILLION cost claimed by the new police chief.
Guess his undercover rioters did not come cheap?
Is this part of the reason Toronto refused repeatedly to give Mike Boyd the
position of Chief Cop?

Chief Boyd admits that there are at least 35 unresolved complaints filed
against his police in connection with police brutality over the past week or
so!


On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:17:52 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>The local media had a great day publicising the torture of a young woman by
>another rogue Edmonton cop!!

>This Gestapo-like thug was photographed by several reporters, while he beat
>the handcuffed young lady and threw her face onto the pavement, breaking open
>her face!

>In another incident the same night, a 66 year old lawyer , Brian Fish, was
>tasered illegally, for taking pictures of police brutality. He is now laying
>charges against the cops involved.

>And the police chief seems to be doing nothing about all his crooked cops!
>Is this why Mike Boyd was refused the Chief's position in Toronto?

>Guess Chief Boyd was too busy wasting $2,200,000 of taxpayers money 
>setting up his thugs to torture civilians?

>Mind you, the inept cops still have not caught the serial killer of more than
>100 prostitutes, or even the killers of another 2 people this week!!


>On 2006-06-19 11:53:03 -0400, Boadicea  said:

>> The Edmonton Journal for today - 19 June 2006 - carries 2 pages full
>> of photos showing the Edmonton Gestapo TORTURING a woman, who was not 
>> resisting!!

>> Guess the crooked cops forgot that there are people taking
>> photographs?

>> And the jew mayor sees nothing wrong with police brutality.
>> Guess he belongs to the kill-a palestinian school of torture?

>> And they wonder why tourists around the world are starting to avoid
>> visiting UNSAFE Canada!!



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Harris - Heydrich: Ein Unterschied? 

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner


On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner



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ADL ZYDS Dislike Methodists' for Divesting From israel

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:24:43 -0600 (MDT), in soc.culture.europe FrankArthur
 wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:32:23 GMT, in soc.culture.jewish "torresdD"
 wrote:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3418316,00.html
Methodists 'bordering anti-Semitism'

ADL Director slams American Christian group for Israel
divestment call

Yaakov Lappin Published:
06.27.07, 16:37 / Israel Jewish Scene

The United Methodist Church's call to divest from companies linked to
Israel "is bordering on anti-Semitism,"

Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman told Ynetnews
on Wednesday.

Foxman furiously condemned recommendations made by the
New England branch of the Methodist Church for its members to divest
"from twenty companies identified as supporting the Israeli occupation
in Palestine."

The recommendations were made by a "task force" of clergy and church
members set up to implement a "resolution to end the Israeli occupation,"
a statement by the Church added.

Foxman, who is currently in Israel, said it was "sad that a religious
institution whose job should be to reconcile continues to be biased
and bigoted."

He added that in the past two years, "there has been a war perpetrated by
Hizbullah, katyushas rockets, and terrorist acts.

Now Hamas, that does not recognize Israel's right to exist and perpetrated
violence, has gotten itself elected, and is in control of a million and a half
Palestinians.

And the Methodists are still there to teach Israel a lesson."

"My reaction is one of outrage to this biased decision,
which borders on anti-Semitism.

The facts show that any decent fair-minded, spiritual, godly person would not
come to a conclusion to boycott the victim, the one that has been praying for
peace, suing for peace, hoping for peace.

To make Israel the target is just outrageous," Foxman added.

In the Church's statement, William P. Aldrich, chairperson
of the 'Divestment Task Force,' was quoted as saying:
"Selective divestment is consistent with the United Methodist commitment
to a just and sustainable peace for all the people of the Middle East."

He added that the divestment campaign
"offers a tangible way of working toward this goal."

In its press release, the Church said it knew its actions would not have an
impact on Israel's economy, adding that "this is not the goal."

"The goal is to make all United Methodists and other Americans aware of their
relationship to companies that benefit from the Israeli occupation," the
statement added.

"The urgency of the humanitarian crisis in the occupied Palestinian
territories cannot be overstated," the United Methodist Church
declared on its website.

Church ackowledges bias

In a separate development, the ADL has welcomed the United
Church of Christ's (UCC) acknowledgment that it has advocated
an unbalanced and one-sided policy against the state of Israel.

The UCC passed a new resolution this week calling for a more
balanced approach to the Middle East conflict.

"We are heartened that members of the United Church of Christ
have come to recognize that Israel deserves a fair hearing and
that some of their policy declarations in the past were based
on unfair and biased assumptions," Foxman said.

"It is a welcome development, and the start of a healthy process
toward a better understanding of a very complex and complicated
history," he added.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

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WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case -
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


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Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
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ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE  MORDUJE W RUSSIA - Wahrheit
Data: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:29:40 -0600
WiadomoϾ - ID: < 8u2fj29n2462up5sk1nm57drl2qs6i98is@4ax.com >

Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt.
polityce.nacjonalizm.biel "Whip"
< nowhere@none > napisa³:

"¿YDOWSKI RYTUA³ MORDUJE" W RUSSIA
PIÊÆ DZIECI ZNALAZ³O CA³KOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SP³YNʳA OD CIA³!
TRUPY zosta³y USTAWIONE w p³omieniach, BY SCHOWAÆ KREW SP³YWAJ¹C¹

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed pocz¹tkiem Jewish Passover
dalej April 23, piêæ dzieci, Muslim i Christian, "znikniêtego" w
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk.  ich spalone cia³a zosta³y
znalezione w kanalizacyjny dó³.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj ¿e
du¿o Rosjanie w mieœcie s¹ przekonani, ¿e dzieci rytualnie zosta³y
zamordowane przez miejscowych Jews, którzy póŸniej sp³onêli ich cia³a ukryæ
zbrodniê i zapobiec eksperci znaleŸæ w cia³ach brak krwi, która jest
u¿yta przez Hasidic ¯ydzi dla celów rytua³u.

Ma³o ludzi w mieœcie wierzy, ¿e Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek
przychodz¹ do próby i, ¿e morderstwa w³aœciwie by³yby rozjaœnione
przez policyjnego investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny
Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentuj¹cy zainteresowania rodziców z
zamordowane dzieci powiedzia³y papierowi, ¿e 5 niezale¿nych ekspertów
potwierdzi³o brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych cia³ach.

" Jestem pewny, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem", on
powiedzia³.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups
Centrum, uzgadnia, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezale¿ny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski
¿e jest du¿a Jewish spo³ecznoœæ w Krasnoyarsk i ¿e
w³adze robi¹ w ich moc czego, by ukryæ, ¿e to rytualne morderstwo
zaanga¿owane przez ¯ydzi. Œwiadek doniós³ widzenie cia³ dzieci
rzuconych nietkniêtych dó³ jako zakaza³ przez Jewish rytua³ i wtedy ktoœ
spalony wtedy do ukrywaj¹ rany rytua³u w okreœlonych miejscach cia³ 
zrobionych dla wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedzia³.

Badacz przypomnia³ dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913.
miejscowy ¯ydowski aktywista spo³ecznoœci, Beilis, zosta³ zatrzymany i zosta³
oskar¿ony morderstwa i póŸniej wypuœci³ przez s¹d z powodu
niewystarczaj¹cego dowodu, z mniejszym nadwy¿ka wagi miêdzy s¹dem.

"Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky te¿ mia³o miejsce ma³o dnia przed
¯ydowski Passover, jego cia³o te¿ zosta³o skrwawione i zosta³o
rzucone pogrzeb", Mr którego Nazarov powiedzia³.

"I Beilis nale¿a³ do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic ga³êzi Judaism jako
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar ... kopie American gangstes
æwiczy siê (on zosta³ urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z
poparciem Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish
Governor Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin", Pan, z którym Nazarov do³¹czy³ jego
wywiad papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedŸ œwiatow¹ najlepszy ocenion¹
stronê internetow¹ dla  JEW - WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Teraz z wiêcej dowodem wychodz¹cym udowadniaj¹cym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z
NAZIŒCI - innych 51 przypadków oprócz s³awnego przypadku Kastner - nic
dziwne ludzie dooko³a œwiata naprawdê nie lubi¹ Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawieraj¹:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J. Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
JAZEERA AL - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
DRUT HOFFMAN - Dedicated do Freedom Press,
    Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History
    Poprzyj: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Albo, odwiedŸ stronê internetow¹ dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :
http://www.natall.com
Oni maj¹ du¿o informacji, jak równie¿ ksi¹¿ki i zapisy.


Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < Art@Arthurian.com >, albo do
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, albo Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Czuæ siê swobodnie , by zaprenumerowaæ nas do maillists dla p³ci,
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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:01:45 -0400, in alt.revisionism "Neil Harrington"
 wrote:

>From Prof. Norman Finkelstein's site, January 2006 article

New Woes at the House of Hucksters (w/Finkelstein's comment)

NGF comments: In The Holocaust Industry I documented the World Jewish 
Congress's double shakedown of Swiss banks and Nazi holocaust victims. The 
mastermind of this plot was a repellant sewer rat named Rabbi Israel Singer 
who headed the World Jewish Congress. In the appendix to the second 
paperback edition of my book I stated that Singer won't be stopped "unless 
he is finally put where he belongs, behind bars." It seems that day might 
not be so far off. In the past year it has been reported that while 
denouncing the Swiss banks for using secrecy laws to deny Jews access to 
their Holocaust-era accounts, Singer himself opened up a secret Swiss bank 
account where he was squirreling away monies pilfered from the World Jewish 
Congress. Now it seems that the House of Hucksters is beset with yet new 
scandals.

Ganzfried, the Swiss journalist, has been sharply critical of Jewish 
communal efforts to win back Holocaust-era assets, which have roiled Swiss 
Jews' relations with their neighbors. He said his upcoming articles will be 
aimed at documenting the shortcomings in that process.


WJC Fights Publication Of Articles On Its Woes

January 20, 2006 | The Forward
By NATHANIEL POPPER

The World Jewish Congress is fighting to block publication in Switzerland of 
a series of magazine articles that reportedly will contain damaging new 
allegations about the organization's management and handling of funds.

(article continues at this link)

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=3&ar=55 




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Data: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:29:40 -0600
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Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt.
polityce.nacjonalizm.biel "Whip"
< nowhere@none > napisa³:

"¿YDOWSKI RYTUA³ MORDUJE" W RUSSIA
PIÊÆ DZIECI ZNALAZ³O CA³KOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SP³YNʳA OD CIA³!
TRUPY zosta³y USTAWIONE w p³omieniach, BY SCHOWAÆ KREW SP³YWAJ¹C¹

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed pocz¹tkiem Jewish Passover
dalej April 23, piêæ dzieci, Muslim i Christian, "znikniêtego" w
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk.  ich spalone cia³a zosta³y
znalezione w kanalizacyjny dó³.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj ¿e
du¿o Rosjanie w mieœcie s¹ przekonani, ¿e dzieci rytualnie zosta³y
zamordowane przez miejscowych Jews, którzy póŸniej sp³onêli ich cia³a ukryæ
zbrodniê i zapobiec eksperci znaleŸæ w cia³ach brak krwi, która jest
u¿yta przez Hasidic ¯ydzi dla celów rytua³u.

Ma³o ludzi w mieœcie wierzy, ¿e Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek
przychodz¹ do próby i, ¿e morderstwa w³aœciwie by³yby rozjaœnione
przez policyjnego investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny
Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentuj¹cy zainteresowania rodziców z
zamordowane dzieci powiedzia³y papierowi, ¿e 5 niezale¿nych ekspertów
potwierdzi³o brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych cia³ach.

" Jestem pewny, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem", on
powiedzia³.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups
Centrum, uzgadnia, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezale¿ny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski
¿e jest du¿a Jewish spo³ecznoœæ w Krasnoyarsk i ¿e
w³adze robi¹ w ich moc czego, by ukryæ, ¿e to rytualne morderstwo
zaanga¿owane przez ¯ydzi. Œwiadek doniós³ widzenie cia³ dzieci
rzuconych nietkniêtych dó³ jako zakaza³ przez Jewish rytua³ i wtedy ktoœ
spalony wtedy do ukrywaj¹ rany rytua³u w okreœlonych miejscach cia³ 
zrobionych dla wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedzia³.

Badacz przypomnia³ dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913.
miejscowy ¯ydowski aktywista spo³ecznoœci, Beilis, zosta³ zatrzymany i zosta³
oskar¿ony morderstwa i póŸniej wypuœci³ przez s¹d z powodu
niewystarczaj¹cego dowodu, z mniejszym nadwy¿ka wagi miêdzy s¹dem.

"Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky te¿ mia³o miejsce ma³o dnia przed
¯ydowski Passover, jego cia³o te¿ zosta³o skrwawione i zosta³o
rzucone pogrzeb", Mr którego Nazarov powiedzia³.

"I Beilis nale¿a³ do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic ga³êzi Judaism jako
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar ... kopie American gangstes
æwiczy siê (on zosta³ urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z
poparciem Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish
Governor Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin", Pan, z którym Nazarov do³¹czy³ jego
wywiad papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedŸ œwiatow¹ najlepszy ocenion¹
stronê internetow¹ dla  JEW - WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Teraz z wiêcej dowodem wychodz¹cym udowadniaj¹cym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z
NAZIŒCI - innych 51 przypadków oprócz s³awnego przypadku Kastner - nic
dziwne ludzie dooko³a œwiata naprawdê nie lubi¹ Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawieraj¹:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J. Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
JAZEERA AL - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
DRUT HOFFMAN - Dedicated do Freedom Press,
    Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History
    Poprzyj: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Albo, odwiedŸ stronê internetow¹ dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :
http://www.natall.com
Oni maj¹ du¿o informacji, jak równie¿ ksi¹¿ki i zapisy.


Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < Art@Arthurian.com >, albo do
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ADL ZYDS Dislike Methodists' for Divesting From israel

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:24:43 -0600 (MDT), in soc.culture.europe FrankArthur
 wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:32:23 GMT, in soc.culture.jewish "torresdD"
 wrote:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3418316,00.html
Methodists 'bordering anti-Semitism'

ADL Director slams American Christian group for Israel
divestment call

Yaakov Lappin Published:
06.27.07, 16:37 / Israel Jewish Scene

The United Methodist Church's call to divest from companies linked to
Israel "is bordering on anti-Semitism,"

Anti-Defamation League Director Abraham Foxman told Ynetnews
on Wednesday.

Foxman furiously condemned recommendations made by the
New England branch of the Methodist Church for its members to divest
"from twenty companies identified as supporting the Israeli occupation
in Palestine."

The recommendations were made by a "task force" of clergy and church
members set up to implement a "resolution to end the Israeli occupation,"
a statement by the Church added.

Foxman, who is currently in Israel, said it was "sad that a religious
institution whose job should be to reconcile continues to be biased
and bigoted."

He added that in the past two years, "there has been a war perpetrated by
Hizbullah, katyushas rockets, and terrorist acts.

Now Hamas, that does not recognize Israel's right to exist and perpetrated
violence, has gotten itself elected, and is in control of a million and a half
Palestinians.

And the Methodists are still there to teach Israel a lesson."

"My reaction is one of outrage to this biased decision,
which borders on anti-Semitism.

The facts show that any decent fair-minded, spiritual, godly person would not
come to a conclusion to boycott the victim, the one that has been praying for
peace, suing for peace, hoping for peace.

To make Israel the target is just outrageous," Foxman added.

In the Church's statement, William P. Aldrich, chairperson
of the 'Divestment Task Force,' was quoted as saying:
"Selective divestment is consistent with the United Methodist commitment
to a just and sustainable peace for all the people of the Middle East."

He added that the divestment campaign
"offers a tangible way of working toward this goal."

In its press release, the Church said it knew its actions would not have an
impact on Israel's economy, adding that "this is not the goal."

"The goal is to make all United Methodists and other Americans aware of their
relationship to companies that benefit from the Israeli occupation," the
statement added.

"The urgency of the humanitarian crisis in the occupied Palestinian
territories cannot be overstated," the United Methodist Church
declared on its website.

Church ackowledges bias

In a separate development, the ADL has welcomed the United
Church of Christ's (UCC) acknowledgment that it has advocated
an unbalanced and one-sided policy against the state of Israel.

The UCC passed a new resolution this week calling for a more
balanced approach to the Middle East conflict.

"We are heartened that members of the United Church of Christ
have come to recognize that Israel deserves a fair hearing and
that some of their policy declarations in the past were based
on unfair and biased assumptions," Foxman said.

"It is a welcome development, and the start of a healthy process
toward a better understanding of a very complex and complicated
history," he added.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website
for JEW-WATCH:
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Or, other useful websites include:
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IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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Harris - Heydrich: Ein Unterschied? 

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner


On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:19:36 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc Werner Schneider
 wrote:

Nein.

Begründung:

1) Harris wollte soviele Deutsche wie möglich umbringen
lassen, Heydrich soviele Juden wie möglich.

2) Heydrich wollte natürlich auch die jüdische Kultur mit
allem, was dazu gehört, beseitigen. Harris liess bevorzugt
deutsche Innenstädte bombardieren, um soviel deutsche Kultur
wie möglich zu zerstören.

3) Grossbritannien führte gegen das Deutsche Reich einen
selbst erklärten Krieg, dessen Bestandteil "Luftkrieg" mit
grösstmöglicher Grausamkeit geführt wurde. Auch jeder deutsche
Zivilist war Angriffsziel. Für die Nazis waren die Juden
schlechthin Angriffsziel. Es fehlte bei beiden jegliche
Differenzierung nach gut und schlecht, nach erlaubt und
nicht erlaubt. Erlaubt war alles. Sowohl hier wie da.

4) Die Briten gaben und geben vor, gegen ein Verbrecher-
Regime zu kämpfen bzw. gekämpft zu haben und nutzen dieses
Argument als Begründung für ihre brutale Luftkriegsführung.
Es zieht allerdings nicht. Wie kann man 500.000 Zivilisten
töten und sich dann die Hände in Unschuld waschen? Auch
den 500.000 wurde ein Holocaust bereitet. Wenn Harris
gekonnt hätte, wären ihm auch 6 Millionen Recht gewesen.

5) Verbrechen sind Verbrechen, egal, wie man sie begründet.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

6) Worin unterscheiden sich also Harris und Heydrich:
Für Harris wurde in London ein Denkmal errichtet.

Werner



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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:01:45 -0400, in alt.revisionism "Neil Harrington"
 wrote:

>From Prof. Norman Finkelstein's site, January 2006 article

New Woes at the House of Hucksters (w/Finkelstein's comment)

NGF comments: In The Holocaust Industry I documented the World Jewish 
Congress's double shakedown of Swiss banks and Nazi holocaust victims. The 
mastermind of this plot was a repellant sewer rat named Rabbi Israel Singer 
who headed the World Jewish Congress. In the appendix to the second 
paperback edition of my book I stated that Singer won't be stopped "unless 
he is finally put where he belongs, behind bars." It seems that day might 
not be so far off. In the past year it has been reported that while 
denouncing the Swiss banks for using secrecy laws to deny Jews access to 
their Holocaust-era accounts, Singer himself opened up a secret Swiss bank 
account where he was squirreling away monies pilfered from the World Jewish 
Congress. Now it seems that the House of Hucksters is beset with yet new 
scandals.

Ganzfried, the Swiss journalist, has been sharply critical of Jewish 
communal efforts to win back Holocaust-era assets, which have roiled Swiss 
Jews' relations with their neighbors. He said his upcoming articles will be 
aimed at documenting the shortcomings in that process.


WJC Fights Publication Of Articles On Its Woes

January 20, 2006 | The Forward
By NATHANIEL POPPER

The World Jewish Congress is fighting to block publication in Switzerland of 
a series of magazine articles that reportedly will contain damaging new 
allegations about the organization's management and handling of funds.

(article continues at this link)

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=3&ar=55 




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Vergiss niemals! Bewaehrt Euch vor ZYDS!Niemals wieder!

ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE  MORDUJE W RUSSIA - Wahrheit
Data: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:29:40 -0600
WiadomoϾ - ID: < 8u2fj29n2462up5sk1nm57drl2qs6i98is@4ax.com >

Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt.
polityce.nacjonalizm.biel "Whip"
< nowhere@none > napisa³:

"¿YDOWSKI RYTUA³ MORDUJE" W RUSSIA
PIÊÆ DZIECI ZNALAZ³O CA³KOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SP³YNʳA OD CIA³!
TRUPY zosta³y USTAWIONE w p³omieniach, BY SCHOWAÆ KREW SP³YWAJ¹C¹

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed pocz¹tkiem Jewish Passover
dalej April 23, piêæ dzieci, Muslim i Christian, "znikniêtego" w
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk.  ich spalone cia³a zosta³y
znalezione w kanalizacyjny dó³.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj ¿e
du¿o Rosjanie w mieœcie s¹ przekonani, ¿e dzieci rytualnie zosta³y
zamordowane przez miejscowych Jews, którzy póŸniej sp³onêli ich cia³a ukryæ
zbrodniê i zapobiec eksperci znaleŸæ w cia³ach brak krwi, która jest
u¿yta przez Hasidic ¯ydzi dla celów rytua³u.

Ma³o ludzi w mieœcie wierzy, ¿e Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek
przychodz¹ do próby i, ¿e morderstwa w³aœciwie by³yby rozjaœnione
przez policyjnego investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny
Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentuj¹cy zainteresowania rodziców z
zamordowane dzieci powiedzia³y papierowi, ¿e 5 niezale¿nych ekspertów
potwierdzi³o brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych cia³ach.

" Jestem pewny, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem", on
powiedzia³.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups
Centrum, uzgadnia, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezale¿ny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski
¿e jest du¿a Jewish spo³ecznoœæ w Krasnoyarsk i ¿e
w³adze robi¹ w ich moc czego, by ukryæ, ¿e to rytualne morderstwo
zaanga¿owane przez ¯ydzi. Œwiadek doniós³ widzenie cia³ dzieci
rzuconych nietkniêtych dó³ jako zakaza³ przez Jewish rytua³ i wtedy ktoœ
spalony wtedy do ukrywaj¹ rany rytua³u w okreœlonych miejscach cia³ 
zrobionych dla wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedzia³.

Badacz przypomnia³ dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913.
miejscowy ¯ydowski aktywista spo³ecznoœci, Beilis, zosta³ zatrzymany i zosta³
oskar¿ony morderstwa i póŸniej wypuœci³ przez s¹d z powodu
niewystarczaj¹cego dowodu, z mniejszym nadwy¿ka wagi miêdzy s¹dem.

"Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky te¿ mia³o miejsce ma³o dnia przed
¯ydowski Passover, jego cia³o te¿ zosta³o skrwawione i zosta³o
rzucone pogrzeb", Mr którego Nazarov powiedzia³.

"I Beilis nale¿a³ do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic ga³êzi Judaism jako
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar ... kopie American gangstes
æwiczy siê (on zosta³ urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z
poparciem Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish
Governor Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin", Pan, z którym Nazarov do³¹czy³ jego
wywiad papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedŸ œwiatow¹ najlepszy ocenion¹
stronê internetow¹ dla  JEW - WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Teraz z wiêcej dowodem wychodz¹cym udowadniaj¹cym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z
NAZIŒCI - innych 51 przypadków oprócz s³awnego przypadku Kastner - nic
dziwne ludzie dooko³a œwiata naprawdê nie lubi¹ Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawieraj¹:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J. Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
JAZEERA AL - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
DRUT HOFFMAN - Dedicated do Freedom Press,
    Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History
    Poprzyj: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Albo, odwiedŸ stronê internetow¹ dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :
http://www.natall.com
Oni maj¹ du¿o informacji, jak równie¿ ksi¹¿ki i zapisy.


Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < Art@Arthurian.com >, albo do
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, albo Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Czuæ siê swobodnie , by zaprenumerowaæ nas do maillists dla p³ci,
homoseksualistów i podobnego.



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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 00:03:30 +1000, "Binyamin Cramer"
 wrote:
>"Jason P"  wrote in message 
>news:1182354943.397495.139420@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> JEWS GET MARRIAGE NOD

>> by Benedict Brook

>> Pic -- http://tinyurl.com/2v53r6
>> Christopher and Scott at their commitment ceremony in Watson's Bay.

>> Two Sydney men are hoping to become the first Jewish gay couple in
>> Australia to have their partnership officially sanctified following a
>> decision to allow rabbis to officiate at same-sex ceremonies.

>Fucking poofters. Should all be fucked and burned.

The appropriate use of faggots, per dictionary, is for incineration.
For such AIDS-spreaders, that is more than appropriate.


>The turds have even managed to get the local government in Melbourne to make 
>a pub "poofters only." It's now agains the law to enter if you're not a 
>faggot.

>How fucking sad is that?

>> Christopher Whitmont-Stephenson, from Wollstonecraft, said he and his
>> partner Scott Whitmont would be the "first to put their hands up", and
>> hoped to get married in October - straight after the new rules are
>> likely to come into effect.

>> The Council of Progressive Rabbis said it would fall into line with
>> the United States by allowing rabbis who wish to perform same-sex
>> ceremonies to do so.

>> The ruling will affect Jews in New Zealand and Asia as well as
>> Australia.

>> Whitmont-Stephenson and his partner had a commitment ceremony in 2002.
>> However, because rabbis were banned from performing at the ceremony,
>> it was not recognised.

>> "It's important to us and we wanted to make a public statement,"
>> Whitmont-Stephenson said.

>> "So we thought, 'Let's just do it and damn the law - that can change
>> later.'"

>> When asked to explain his desire for the rule change to the
>> congregation at the Temple Emanuel in Woollahra, Whitmont-Stephenson
>> gave a simple message.

>> "I gave the message that we are like any other practising Jewish
>> couple with a Jewish home and Jewish Friday night ceremonies, we go to
>> synagogue, we eat kosher food, we love each other - the only
>> difference is we are two men."

>> Plans were already afoot for another ceremony but, Whitmont-Stephenson
>> said, as it was the second time around, there wouldn't be "a big hoo-
>> hah", just close friends and family in attendance.

>> "I'm really thrilled," Rabbi Jacqueline Ninio said. "If a same-sex
>> couple are in a committed and loving relationship then they have the
>> right to have that commitment to be honoured in the presence of their
>> community and God."

>> Ninio, of Temple Emanuel, backs the changes and said she would be
>> "honoured to officiate" at a same-sex ceremony.

>> However, some Orthodox rabbis, who are not affected by the Progressive
>> decision, have poured scorn on the changes.

>> Rabbi Benzion Milecki of Rose Bay's South Head Synagogue said in his
>> weekly shabbat message that the decision was a "huge step backwards".

>> "Pandering to so-called 'modernity', keeping up with the Joneses in
>> the form of the latest moral fads and fashions - which are here today
>> and gone tomorrow - has never been the authentic Jewish way," he said.

>> While acknowledging the decision might give some congregations
>> "something to think about", Ninio said she did not share Milecki's
>> views.

>> "I don't think it's a fad - there's a lot who say that we are made in
>> the image of God and our sexuality is part of that," she said.

>> Jewish gay group Dayenu welcomed the Progressive Council's decision.

>> "We feel that it is recognition of the depth of commitment to our
>> partners and rejoice that we are now able to do so within our faith,"
>> the organisation said in a statement.

>> "We pray that those opposed to it will eventually see it as a
>> complementary institution to marriage, designed to strengthen our
>> community, not divide it."

>> There is unlikely, however, to be a rush for sanctified ceremonies as,
>> under Jewish law, rabbis can only officiate if both people are part of
>> the religion.

>> --- --- --- --- ---
>> (c) Sydney Star Observer - Issue 872 - Published  21/06/2007

Obviously these fags, and their rabbi do not believe in the section from
leviticus, which denounces fags!!



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The vote was NOT "close" as ADL had hoped for!!


On Thu, 31 May 2007 04:43:34 GMT, NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org wrote:

>British academics approve Israel boycott

>Via NY Transfer News Collective  *  All the News that Doesn't Fit

>sent by Andy Pollack

>This is huge -- a huge union taking a huge step.
>Get ready to defend them and to follow their lead!

>The Guardian - May 30, 2007
>http://education.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329949066-108234,00.html

>7.30pm update
>Lecturers back boycott of Israel

>by James Meikle, Education corresponden

>University lecturers today threatened to provoke international
>condemnation over academic freedom by forcing their union into a
>year-long debate over boycotting work with Israeli universities.

>Delegates at the first conference of the new University and College
>Union in Bournemouth voted by more than three to two to recommend
>boycotts in protest at Israel's "40-year occupation" of Palestinian
>land and to condemn the "complicity" of Israeli academics.

>The conference motion said there should be "a comprehensive and
>consistent boycott" of all Israeli academic institutions, as called for
>by Palestinian trade unions.

>Delegates voted by 158 to 99 in favour of the motion. The union's
>leadership must now circulate calls from Palestinians for a boycott of
>Israeli universities to all branches throughout the country.

>Tom Hickey, a Brighton University academic and union national executive
>member, who led the call for stronger moves towards a boycott, said:
>"There will be adverse effects on individuals, but this is not
>targeting individuals or trying to break contacts with them."

>He said the vote in favour of a boycott call to all branches reflected
>"the deep concern" people have about the issue. A boycott could involve
>lecturers refusing to collaborate on research contracts with Israeli
>academics and refusing to work with journals published by Israeli
>companies.

>However, Sally Hunt, the general secretary of the union, said: "I do
>not believe a boycott is supported by a majority of (the 120,000) UCU
>members; nor do I believe that members see it as a priority for the
>union."

>Ofir Frankel, a spokesman for the Advisory Board for Academic Freedom,
>said: "This was a disappointment. We see it as discriminatory and
>counterproductive. It will make British academia look a little less
>serious." He added that it would also damage existing links between
>Israelis and Palestinians, Jews and Arabs.

>The decision was greeted with outrage among Jewish groups and
>activists. Jeremy Newmark, chief executive of the Jewish Leadership
>Council, said: "The UCU boycott motion is an assault on academic
>freedom. While the vast majority of academics do not support a boycott,
>this decision damages the credibility of British academia as a whole."

>Jon Benjamin, chief executive of the Board of Deputies of British Jews,
>said: "Now is the time to strengthen the kinds of relationships that
>will bring all sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict together and,
>in this country, create a better understanding of the complex issues
>through that engagement. We call upon the Union's leadership and all
>members who are rightly outraged by the decision to work towards a
>reversal of this policy."

>Mitch Simmons, campaigns director for the Union of Jewish Students,
>said: "Academic freedom is part of the fabric of modern society. The
>exchange of information and the advancement of human knowledge should
>have no borders. Disappointingly, it seems that no value can be left
>unviolated by the proposers of this motion."

>During the debate, which lasted well over an hour, Michael Cushman,
>from the London School of Economics, said: "Universities are to Israel
>what the springboks were to South Africa: the symbol of their national
>identity."

>Israel wanted to claim it was a normal democratic state and
>universities were integral to that, Mr Cushman said. "[But] it is not a
>normal state. They are not normal universities.

>"Senior academics move from universities into ministries and back
>again," he said.

>"Regularly, lecturers take up their commissions in the Israeli Defence
>Force as reserve officers to go into the West Bank to dominate, control
>and shoot the population."

>But Mary Davis, from London Metropolitan University, said there were
>"many, many academics ... who oppose Israeli government policy tooth
>and nail ... This notion that Israeli academia is the Springbok of
>Israel is just plain wrong and foolish."

>Guardian News and Media Limited 2007
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On 30 May 2007 09:15:23 -0700, in soc.culture.palestine ADL Reporter
 wrote:

Published: May 30, 07, 16:31 / Israel News

Hours before members of the University and College Union (UCU) gather
in Bournemouth, southern England, to vote on a motion calling for a
boycott of Israeli academic institutions, British-Jewish academics
told Ynetnews they expected the vote to be close, adding that it could
"could go either way."

"I really don't know what will happen," said Ronnie Fraser, Chairman
of the Academic Friends of Israel. "Sally Hunter (Joint Secretary
General of UCU) has just spoken, coming out against a boycott. But
there are too many unknowns."

British academic unions have flirted with boycotts of Israel on a
number of occasions in the past few years, and in 2005, the
Association of University Teachers (AUT) passed an Israel boycott
motion. It was overturned shortly afterwards.... See more at the URL
below.

http://adlonline.us/#israel_ostracized




On 31 May 2007 13:27:46 -0700, V i v a     P a l e s t i n e!
 wrote:

>UK Academics Union Backs Israel Boycott
>IslamOnline.net & Newspapers

>CAIRO - Britain's largest association for professors and lecturers has
>backed a call by Palestinian trade unions to boycott Israeli academic
>institutions to protest the crackdown on the Palestinian school and
>university system, The Guardian reported on Thursday, May 31.

>Representatives of the University and College Union (UCU)'s 120,000
>members supported the boycott motion by 158 votes to 99, with 17
>abstentions, at the UCU inaugural congress on Wednesday, May 30.

>The motion calls on British college lecturers and professors to
>"consider the moral implications of existing and proposed links with
>Israeli academic institutions."

>Under union procedures, the motion will be sent to all UC branches
>nationwide for a debate, with the hope of voting on a formal boycott
>in the union's conference next year.

>"Today's motion on boycott means all branches now have a
>responsibility to consult all of their members on the issue," said
>Sally Hunt, the UCU's general secretary.

>"I do not believe a boycott is supported by the majority of UCU
>members, nor do I believe that members see it is a priority for the
>union."

>A boycott could sever academic contacts and exchanges of personnel
>between British and Israeli academic institutions.

>The pro-boycott ballot was the first since the merger of two leading
>associations of higher education teachers last year.

>Two years ago the Association of University Lecturers (AUT) endorsed a
>similar boycott.

>It overturned the resolution later that year when it merged with the
>University and College Lecturers' Union into the UCU.

>Complicit

>The UCU said the boycott is to protest "the complicity of Israeli
>academia" in the occupation of Palestinian lands.

>"Passivity or neutrality is unacceptable, and criticism of Israel
>cannot be construed as anti-Semitic," read the motion.

>Tom Hickey, the UCU executive member, said the vote aimed at
>condemning the denial of educational rights for Palestinians under the
>Israeli occupation.

>"The vote reflected the deep concern people have."

>Other motion's backers blasted the Israeli policies in the occupied
>territories as "apartheid".

>Delegates of universities who have visited the occupied territories
>recently described the appalling conditions Palestinian students
>endure while learning amid nonstop arrests and incursions by Israeli
>forces.

>Journeys of Palestinians across the West Bank, which should take no
>more than 20 minutes, now takes several hours because of countless
>checkpoints, they said.

>UNESCO estimates hundreds of thousands of Palestinian students cannot
>attend their regular schools and universities because of Israeli
>measures in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip.

>It says that many Palestinian children are now being schooled at home
>or in makeshift classrooms such as mosques, basements and alleyways.

>Boycott of Israeli products and companies have picked pace in Britain
>recently.

>In April, Britain's National Union of Journalists voted in favor of a
>boycott of Israeli goods.

>More than 100 British doctors have also called for a boycott of the
>Israeli Medical Association, which represents physicians.

>On Monday, May 28, Britain's Architects and Planners for Justice in
>Palestine (APJP) blasted fellow professionals in Israel for
>participating in the occupation projects that oppresses Palestinians.

> http://tinyurl.com/35vfok



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Subject: Re: Christian Girls Sold to ZYD Sex Slavery!! Repost
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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:04:49 -0400, "El Conquistador" 
wrote:

>'Misuse of Canada's identity' questioned in Israeli spy operation

>Stewart Bell
>National Post

>A SENIOR Cabinet official questioned the head of Israel's security service 
>about allegations Israeli undercover agents posed as Canadians during an 
>operation to assassinate a Palestinian terrorist leader, newly released 
>documents show.

>Although Ottawa has said publicly it was convinced all along the spy claims 
>were false, internal documents obtained yesterday show the matter has 
>continued to concern the government and has been the subject of 
>behind-the-scenes diplomacy.

>In a confidential report, officials said they were concerned about "other 
>countries' intelligence services misusing Canada's identity" and that "such 
>misuse endangers Canadians travelling around the world and undermines the 
>integrity of Canadian passports."

>Ronald Bilodeau, the Privy Council Office security and intelligence 
>co-ordinator and Cabinet assistant secretary, met on Oct. 1 with the head of 
>the Israeli Security Agency, whose spies allegedly used false Canadian 
>identities during the operation in Gaza.

>"The ISA is reported to have recently had its agents pose as Canadians to 
>lure a Palestinian, 22-year-old Akram Zatmeh, into informing on Intifada 
>leaders in return for promises of resettlement in Canada," according to a 
>"Secret: Canadian Eyes Only" memo prepared for the meeting.

>  The documents do not describe the response of the ISA chief, who reports 
>directly to Ariel Sharon, the Israeli Prime Minister. Israel has denied the 
>claims. But the papers show Ottawa was worried about being linked to a spy 
>operation and a botched assassination that killed 14 bystanders, nine of 
>them children.

>The allegations surfaced in August, when Mr. Zatmeh publicly detailed how he 
>was lured into becoming an Israeli informant by agents who told him they 
>were Canadians and could help him immigrate. Mr. Zatmeh said he was 
>recruited by three "Canadian" agents who brought him to the Canadian embassy 
>in Tel Aviv before coercing him into helping them, with doctored photos that 
>showed him with naked women.

>On July 23, Mr. Zatmeh helped Israeli agents pinpoint the location of Sheik 
>Salah Shehadeh, a Hamas leader. Twenty minutes later, an Israeli F-16 fired 
>a one-tonne missile at the building, killing not only the sheik but also 
>more than a dozen bystanders.

>Mr. Zatmeh was later arrested as a collaborator and is facing a possible 
>death sentence.

>"Our initial concern ... was that the press articles could be seen by some 
>as alleging Canadian involvement with Israel in the assassination of Sheik 
>Salah Shehadeh," according to an Aug. 29 internal government memo. "Canada 
>has nothing to do with this or with any other purported Israeli operation."

>After the Post learned of the informant's allegations, officials told the 
>newspaper on Sept. 4 they were satisfied the claims were false. However, 
>hours after the Post report on Sept. 5, John McNee, assistant deputy 
>minister for Africa and the Mideast, discussed the matter with Haim Divon, 
>Israel's ambassador to Canada.




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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, "princeandy"  wrote:

>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.

A lot of good ideas!

Now definitely needed for the members of the pedofilia party in
Holland!!

Also, for judges in Canada releasing repeat child molesters!!


On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:06:56 -0600, Ken McVaySOBC
 wrote:

>Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have approved
>special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags!!

>In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get their just
>punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!


>>DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags!!

>>This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
>>since many US states, and foreign countries are
>>starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.

>>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
>>of televising executions.

>>A few more thoughts on the subject.

>>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
>>VICTIMS of the criminals executed.

>>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
>>not only determine the method of execution, but should also
>>have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.

>>Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
>>but not limited to such, would include:
>
>>         AIDS spreaders
>>         rapists
>>         drug dealers
>>         home invaders
>>         armed robbers
>>         pederasts and similar child molesters
>>         crooked liars/lawyers
>>         corrupt judges
>>         corrupt politicians
>>         insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
>>         members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
>>         useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
>>              criminals being released
>>Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
>>         any spreader of any disease,including STD - this would
>>                obviously  include most faggots
>>        white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
>>                dollars  (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
>>                how they would   exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)


>>Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:

>>         crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
>>         vivisection
>>         medical experiments without anaesthetic
>>         target practice for police and military
>>         beheading
>>         hanging
>>         barbecueing by electrocution
>>         drawing & quartering

>>Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
>>	guillotining, very popular in France
>>	flaying alive until dead
>>	stoning to death - popular in some jurisdictions

>>More suggestions for both categories are invited.


>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant

>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431

>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.

>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473


>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:27:02 -0600, "Robert Sveinson"
>> wrote:
>>>"Roedy Green"  wrote in message
>>>news:81ptr0pj2ibnkktvdlh3ngrr09jgjih5d9@4ax.com...
>>>> The Iraqis are hopelessly outgunned, yet to everyone's surprise that
>>>> tiny country has held the biggest military in the world at bay.

>>>> One of their most successful techniques has been beheadings, and
>>>> releasing videos. This creates maximum horror with minimal loss of
>>>> life.

>>>> I think they could improve on the productions to make clear they are
>>>> in retaliation.

>>>> So I think the next beheading video should be spliced or split screen
>>>> with shots of dozens of people Americans have beheaded with their
>>>> bombs and machine gun fire.

>>>> I think they should branch out from beheadings, partly because
>>>> beheadings are too unreal.  They need something the man in the street
>>>> can more relate to.

>>>> I suggest, removing fingernails and toenails, removing or splitting
>>>> the penis, crushing the testicles in a vice, gouging out an eye with
>>>> a popsicle stick, allowing rats to nibble, nails through the hands and
>>>> feet, throwing darts at a target painted on the stomach, rubbing
>>>> rotting dead baby corpse goo over Americans stretched naked and then
>>>> slashing with knives to create gangrenous infections to be
>>>> photographed in stop motion, squeezing lemon juice into wounds.

>>>> Play with common phobias, e.g. spiders, snakes, scorpions, rats,
>>>> heights. E.g. video falling to death from a tall building with cameras
>>>> situated at top, bottom and attached to the victim.

>>>> Since Bush started the sexual abuse, and condones child rape, how
>>>> about killing a man with ever larger things shoved up his ass, pounded
>>>> home with a sledgehammer till he splits like a watermelon.

>>>> Of course any such violence must be justified by showing video of at
>>>> least a dozen instances of Americans doing something similar first.

>>>> "Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
>>>> Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
>>>> nor of Mussolini."
>>>> ~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
>>>>   on Bush's atrocities in the Iraq war.

>>>> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
>>>> See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes




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Rabbi David A. Kaye is a filthy J-w pedophile! by M. K. Madding

On 29 Jul 2006 01:11:35 -0700, in alt.revisionism "M. K. Madding"
 wrote:

http://chaptzem.blogspot.com/2005/11/rabbi-teacher-lose-jobs-after-taping.html


Rabbi, Teacher Lose Jobs After Taping

A rabbi for a national youth group based in Rockville and a Prince
George's County special education teacher have lost their jobs after
they were allegedly videotaped by a hidden camera as part of a
forthcoming "Dateline NBC" story about men who try to solicit sex from
minors online, officials said yesterday.

Rabbi David A. Kaye, 55, vice president of programs for PANIM: the
Institute for Jewish Leaders and Values, resigned this week after
disclosing that he might be featured on a national television news
program, according to a statement released by the organization's
president, Rabbi Sidney Schwarz.

Schwarz said Kaye, who lives in Potomac, "informed me of certain
personal conduct that took place outside our organization that may soon
be aired as part of a larger news story on national television. . . .
We currently are undertaking an internal inquiry to be certain there
has been no similar misconduct at PANIM in any way." The organization
conducts nationwide programs for high school students.

Steven Bennof, 54, of the District, a special education teacher at
Woodridge Elementary School in Prince George's, was fired Aug. 23, said
John White, a spokesman for the school system. White said the firing
occurred after Fairfax County police notified school officials about
"information relating to children."

Neither man has been criminally charged. Kaye told a reporter Wednesday
evening that he had resigned for personal reasons, declining to
elaborate. Bennof did not return a message left on his telephone
answering machine.

The "Dateline NBC" show is scheduled to air tonight. According to video
excerpts that NBC officials provided yesterday and a summary posted on
"Dateline's" Web site, a crew conducted a sting operation with the help
of an Internet watchdog group, Perverted Justice.

Adult members of the watchdog group pretended to be 12- to 14-year-old
children chatting online and waited to see whether adults would contact
them to solicit sex, NBC officials said. According to the program
excerpts and NBC officials, many men did so, and 19 men visited a house
in a Washington suburb over a three-day period in mid-August after a
person posing online as a child provided the address. There, they were
confronted by "Dateline" reporter Chris Hansen.

In the video excerpts provided by "Dateline," a man whom the program
identifies as Kaye walks into the kitchen of a house and is soon met by
Hansen. Without identifying himself as a journalist, Hansen begins
peppering the man with questions about his Internet activities and his
presence at the house. After the man asks Hansen for the second time
who he is, the reporter explains that he is with "Dateline" and that
the program is taping a story about men who visit Internet chat rooms
in pursuit of children.

The excerpts also show Hansen confronting a man identified in the
voiceover as a special education teacher. Hansen said in an interview
yesterday that the show identified Bennof by a phone number he provided
over the Internet and through contacting the school district.

The house "Dateline" used is in Fairfax County, Hansen said. Fairfax
police said yesterday that they are investigating information provided
by Perverted Justice but that they would not provide further details.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/03/AR2005110302297.html?nav=rss_metro


Leave Comment ---This article posted by Chaptzem : 12:33 AM

Comments:
1) Dateline exposed Rabbi David Kaye has connections to other child
molesters with same MO.

3 Rabbis different denominations all child molesters and all posed
together for a photo. All three rabbis have used the same MO when
preying online on children.

Rabbi Jerold Levy - Reform
Rabbi Israel Kestenbaum - Orthodox
Rabbi David Kaye - Reconstructionist/Conse rvative

See photo together:
http://theawarenesscenter.org/jerroldlevy.html#Interesting%20Photo

2) Part of the photo of himself, Rabbi David Kaye sent to what he
believed was a 13 year old boy. Also a transcript of their online
conversation. Caution this is NOT recommended reading. It is very
graphic and truly repugnant.

http://www.perverted-justice.com/?archive=REDBD

3) Panim statement
http://www.panim.org/statement.htm

4)
News articles about Friday Dateline expose on Rabbi Kaye:

http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?intarticleid=15998&intcategoryid=4

http://www.washingtonjewishweek.com/main.asp?SectionID=4&SubSectionID=4&ArticleID=4303&TM=102.596

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9878187/
http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/56780.htm

Comment Credit ---This article posted by jewishwhistleblower : November
04, 2005 7:42 AM

This was a very sad story. Sad, becuase few if any of these men will be
charged. This was a publicity stunt to earn Dateline viewers, and
nothing more. Such irresponsible behavior, as luring men to a
neighborhood house with no law enforcement present, and then letting
them go, free to offend again, is truly a travesty! These men will only
go further underground, but will reoffend, and be much harder to catch
now.Case in pont - the guy who showed up naked the first night, and
then at McDonald's the second. What did he learn? Certainly not to try
to meet children for sex. Shame on Perverted-Justice and shame on
Dateline. Leave catching predators to people who are trained to do it.
Police don't tell the news. Dateline should not be catching criminals.

Comment Credit ---This article posted by Anonymous : November 08, 2005
6:56 PM

Chaptzem - the way you word and the overall tone of your blog regarding
the confrontation with Dateline sounds as if you believe Rabbi Kaye was
wronged -- you even seem to question the identity of the man even
though we can clearly see him in the videos! You seem more intent on
attacking the journalists. Are you his attorney? Perhaps if Mr. Kaye
had been able to get to one of your children or your younger brother or
sister you might feel a bit more strongly about this. But if you really
are naive enough to believe that Mr. Kaye just happened to walk into
that house to perform a blessing I suggest you watch the story and take
your blinders off and try to remember that this is a man of God who was
hoping to have a sexual liason with an underaged boy.

Comment Credit ---This article posted by Anonymous : November 08, 2005
10:50 PM

I am shocked that someone such as Anonymous (1st anonymous post) thinks
that private citizens do not have the right to know the method by which
these scumbags operate and how extensive they are. Perverted Justice
and Dateline did the country a great service and they certainly are
well-trained at what they're doing. Being retired from law enforcement
myself, I know for a fact that snitches and whistleblowers are a very
valuable asset. Anonymous #1 sounds like he's angry these people were
caught! Maybe Anonymous #1 has the same problem. How would he know this
sting will drive the baby-rapers further underground if not from
experience?

Comment Credit ---This article posted by proudtobeanamerican : November
10, 2005 5:33 AM

Let's not circle our Jewish wagons. It's pretty obvious that "Rabbi"
Kaye is, at the very least, a sicko.

Comment Credit ---This article posted by Anonymous : December 19, 2005
1:42 AM

David Kaye was leading a double-life. He got caught. He was at one
temple 15-16 years, not one complaint has been acknowledged. A man his
age, background, and community position who posts those ridiculous
pictures of himself online exceeds my understanding of the word insane.
Then, a whole group of like minded perverts just meander into an
unknown house (!) as if it were a coffee shop? Did the camera crew have
barf bags and oxygen after this craziness?

Comment Credit ---This article posted by Anonymous : December 19, 2005
2:00 PM

Anonymous from before is indeed correct. Private citizens DO NOT have
the right to do what perverted justice does. Does anyone know why? Look
at the news following this event. None of it is of use! There is NO
chain of evidence. Rabbi Kaye showed up, but Perverted Justice would
have to prove that the chat transcripts were NEVER tampered with. The
data was not gathered by police therefor, they are all free to walk
again.

Rabbi Kaye was not done wrong, we were all done wrong because Dateline
screwed us all by giving these men a way out without any legal
repurcussions.

Comment Credit ---This article posted by Anonymous : January 14, 2006
11:12 PM

I hope you all eat your words when Dateline airs on Feb 3, where LE
were present and arrested all 51 men. All of PeeJs chatlogs are
archived and have been used numerous times by LE to prosecute in other
cases. Visit the site and all will be explained. 49 convictions so far,
not including the latest bust house.

Comment Credit ---This article posted by Anonymous : January 17, 2006
12:03 AM

So, now you are saying that this filthy $#@&^%&%^$ homosexual
degenerate predator is "falsely accussed"?

I am interested in seing what occurred after that. I want to see if the
laws did not apply to that flith!

C Lombana

Comment Credit ---This article posted by Anonymous : February 15, 2006
10:03 PM

Looks like Kaye is finally being indicted for his actions...

Search Google News for "Rabbi David Kaye" and see the reports.

Comment Credit ---This article posted by Anonymous : May 22, 2006 7:34
PM

This really bothers me. David Kaye is a man I would have dated.And he
likes to -----young kids!!How many women like me??Attractive, loving
accomplished, not needy Jewish woman,54 and alone?/ Married
men,penniless men who want your finances, and now perverts....Where are
the decent,good men???



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On Sat, 19 May 2007 10:41:26 -0600, in de.soc.politik.misc Matthias Kern
 wrote:

Israel will wieder mal in Deutschland regieren...
Immer die verfluechten Juden!

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 14:03:15 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Andreas Gumtow
 wrote:

21. Oktober 2006
Stein dringt auf Initiative gegen Rechtsextreme

Israels Botschafter in Deutschland, Schimon Stein, hat an Politik und 
Gesellschaft appelliert, gemeinsam gegen den Rechtsradikalismus aktiv 
zu werden.
In der "Neuen Osnabrücker Zeitung" sagte Stein, es handele sich "nicht 
mehr um Randerscheinungen", wenn Rechtsradikale in die Landtage von 
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Brandenburg und Sachsen gewählt worden seien.
] N24

Wann geht Herr Stein denn nun gegen Liebermann vor? Der ist wesentlich 
extremer und sitzt nicht etwa "nur" in einem Landtag sondern in der 
Knesset. Welche extreme Partei, außer natürlich der linksextremen 
SED/PDS NAchfolgeorganisation "LINKE", sitzt im Bundestag? Oder ist 
das nicht so schlimm weil Liebermann und Co ja zu den "RICHTIGEN"(tm) 
gehört?

-- 
In der Politik ist es ähnlich wie im Pflegeheim...

Auch Politiker müssen öfter mal gewendet werden,
sonst lügen die sich durch.

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.



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On Wed, 09 May 2007 16:41:55 GMT, Pepsifreak
 wrote:

Vergiss niemals! Bewaehrt Euch vor ZYDS!Niemals wieder!

ZYDOWSKI RYTUALNE  MORDUJE W RUSSIA - Wahrheit
Data: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:29:40 -0600
WiadomoϾ - ID: < 8u2fj29n2462up5sk1nm57drl2qs6i98is@4ax.com >

Dalej Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, w alt.
polityce.nacjonalizm.biel "Whip"
< nowhere@none > napisa³:

"¿YDOWSKI RYTUA³ MORDUJE" W RUSSIA
PIÊÆ DZIECI ZNALAZ³O CA³KOWICIE W DOLE; KREW SP³YNʳA OD CIA³!
TRUPY zosta³y USTAWIONE w p³omieniach, BY SCHOWAÆ KREW SP³YWAJ¹C¹

Dalej April 16, 2005, tylko tygodnia przed pocz¹tkiem Jewish Passover
dalej April 23, piêæ dzieci, Muslim i Christian, "znikniêtego" w
Rosyjskie miasto Siberian Krasnoyarsk.  ich spalone cia³a zosta³y
znalezione w kanalizacyjny dó³.

Popularny Russian codzienny, Komsomolskaya Pravda, pisze dzisiaj ¿e
du¿o Rosjanie w mieœcie s¹ przekonani, ¿e dzieci rytualnie zosta³y
zamordowane przez miejscowych Jews, którzy póŸniej sp³onêli ich cia³a ukryæ
zbrodniê i zapobiec eksperci znaleŸæ w cia³ach brak krwi, która jest
u¿yta przez Hasidic ¯ydzi dla celów rytua³u.

Ma³o ludzi w mieœcie wierzy, ¿e Jewish mordercy kiedykolwiek
przychodz¹ do próby i, ¿e morderstwa w³aœciwie by³yby rozjaœnione
przez policyjnego investigaters w dzisiejszy nowy demokratyczny
Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, prawnik reprezentuj¹cy zainteresowania rodziców z
zamordowane dzieci powiedzia³y papierowi, ¿e 5 niezale¿nych ekspertów
potwierdzi³o brak hemoglobine (czerwony substancja w ludzkiej krwi) w
wszystkich spalonych cia³ach.

" Jestem pewny, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo z wykrwawieniem", on
powiedzia³.

Evgeny Kazantsev, Head Untraditional Religious Monitoring Groups
Centrum, uzgadnia, ¿e to by³o rytualne morderstwo.

Moscow niezale¿ny badacz i dziennikarz, Mikhail Nazarov, naciski
¿e jest du¿a Jewish spo³ecznoœæ w Krasnoyarsk i ¿e
w³adze robi¹ w ich moc czego, by ukryæ, ¿e to rytualne morderstwo
zaanga¿owane przez ¯ydzi. Œwiadek doniós³ widzenie cia³ dzieci
rzuconych nietkniêtych dó³ jako zakaza³ przez Jewish rytua³ i wtedy ktoœ
spalony wtedy do ukrywaj¹ rany rytua³u w okreœlonych miejscach cia³ 
zrobionych dla wykrwawienie, nazarov Mr powiedzia³.

Badacz przypomnia³ dobrze znanego przypadku rytualnego morderstwa
Letnie 10 Christian dziecko, Andyusha Yushchinsky w Kiev w 1913.
miejscowy ¯ydowski aktywista spo³ecznoœci, Beilis, zosta³ zatrzymany i zosta³
oskar¿ony morderstwa i póŸniej wypuœci³ przez s¹d z powodu
niewystarczaj¹cego dowodu, z mniejszym nadwy¿ka wagi miêdzy s¹dem.

"Morderstwo Andryusha Yushchinsky te¿ mia³o miejsce ma³o dnia przed
¯ydowski Passover, jego cia³o te¿ zosta³o skrwawione i zosta³o
rzucone pogrzeb", Mr którego Nazarov powiedzia³.

"I Beilis nale¿a³ do tej samej Lubavichi Hasidic ga³êzi Judaism jako
obecny Chief Rabbi Russia Berl Lazar ... kopie American gangstes
æwiczy siê (on zosta³ urodzony w Stanach Zjednoczonych) i czyny z
poparciem Jewish oligarchów, Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner i Jewish
Governor Territory Krasnoyarsk Khloponin", Pan, z którym Nazarov do³¹czy³ jego
wywiad papier Moscow.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/

Dla prawdziwej PRAWDY o ZHIDS, odwiedŸ œwiatow¹ najlepszy ocenion¹
stronê internetow¹ dla  JEW - WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Teraz z wiêcej dowodem wychodz¹cym udowadniaj¹cym KOLABORACJI ZHID Z
NAZIŒCI - innych 51 przypadków oprócz s³awnego przypadku Kastner - nic
dziwne ludzie dooko³a œwiata naprawdê nie lubi¹ Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Albo, inne przydatne strony internetowe zawieraj¹:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J. Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
JAZEERA AL - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
DRUT HOFFMAN - Dedicated do Freedom Press,
    Dochodzeniowy Reporting i Revisionist History
    Poprzyj: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Albo, odwiedŸ stronê internetow¹ dla NARODOWEGO PRZYMIERZA :
http://www.natall.com
Oni maj¹ du¿o informacji, jak równie¿ ksi¹¿ki i zapisy.


Odpowiedz -: Frank Arthur < Art@Arthurian.com >, albo do
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, albo Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Czuæ siê swobodnie , by zaprenumerowaæ nas do maillists dla p³ci,
homoseksualistów i podobnego.



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On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
>changes names every 5 minutes.
>Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvomit,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>>Trust that idiot?


>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

>I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

>The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
>He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.


>The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
>tab:

>Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic




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To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWn--jlRVAI&mode=related&search=


This interesting video gives lots of details about the KOSHER TAX, and all the
emblems used by the ZYDS on products showing they got paid the KOSHER TAX.

By the way, Heinz/Libby stopped paying the KOSHER TAX on many products,
according to articles published in Canadian Jew News!!


On 24 Jul 2005 14:33:54 -0700, gordonv8@hotmail.com wrote:

>Jewish taxation without Gentile representation

>"A hypothesis(?) that readily springs to mind from the above
>revelations is that what we have stumbled upon here is a Jewish tax on
>food which appears to have spread throughout the kitchen to non-food
>items so as to become a Jewish tax on food plus kitchen products, and
>from there made its way to the laundry room so as to become a Jewish
>tax on food plus kitchen products plus laundry products, and from there
>metastacized to the medicine cabinet so as to become a Jewish tax on
>food plus kitchen products plus laundry products plus over-the-counter
>medications.  And the question that the above revelations urgently
>presses upon consciousness is how much this Jewish tax - if it may be
>so described - costs the average Canadian household each year.  Ten
>dollars?  A hundred dollars?  A thousand dollars?  What?  Why don't we
>know?  Why is there no way to find out?  Why isn't this a matter of
>public record?"

>Many graphics of grocery items on this page, click below:

>http://www.ukar.org/tax02.html

>Faster download, less graphics on (this) prior page:

>http://www.ukar.org/ronen01.html

Subject: KOSHER TAX Ripoff-HEINZ/Libby Dumps,Too Expensive to Consumers!!
MORE!

On 27 Sep 2004 15:50:36 -0000, ErnstZundel  wrote:

Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
qualified to do...

Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!

>From: norma2339@charter.net
>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>"veranda"  wrote in message 
>news:...
>> > >     veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since  it
>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .

>> > >     The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost

>>  wrote in message
>> news:9abc4e06.0304010305.50dc870e@posting.google.com...
>> > What duplication?  It is a symbol on the container and the cost  would
>> > not change in any way.  This "paranoia" is silly.

>veranda : what 'paranoia' ?? we are talking about saving money .
>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>you knew that !
>Kosher is Israel's food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>we got our own  !  :)

>Well, to set the record straight.  The Rabbinate council that approves
>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>doesn't really care.  It is not an item by item thing.  With the
>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>day.)

>What would it save you--less than $10 a year.

>All countries have their own Rabbinate Councils, so don't think that it
>is just Canada with their own.  Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>have demanded more money?

>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>couldn't make any money either.


>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin  wrote:

>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!

>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>by
>Ernesto Cienfuegos
>La Voz de Aztlan

>Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers
>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>attention.
>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can be found
>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>do some research into the subject. What we found
>certainly was "news" to us and it both shocked and angered us.

>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>container, the Trader Joe's tea box and even the Glads plastic
>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.

>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>that the mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher".

>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and
>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher"
>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>products.

>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>receive protection.
>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>other similar markings.

>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>sophisticated "Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the
>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>in New York City.

>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.

>The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.

>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.

>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>up to "inspect" the company's operations.
>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>lucrative salaries.

>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>it now.

>Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will
>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee"
>or "kosher plastic sandwich bags".
>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>other non-Jewish people?
>* * * * * * * * * * * *

>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!

>>>Further to the article below, today's Southam newspapers
>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>all Heinz products.

>>>Heinz declared this was done " to keep costs down" according
>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.

>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>including those sold under the Libby's label.

>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>Orthodox Rabbis).

>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!


>>>From: tyler 
>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>consumers
>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT

>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers

>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>proof is easily found.

>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.


>>>The following has been snipped from:

>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm

>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.

>>>The website explains:

>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>close investigation and supervision.

>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.

>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.

>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.

>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>>The cost is minimal to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>that!

>>>...and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>annual sales of the product.

>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>friends and neighbours if they  know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>Jewish, they won't have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>because something is certified.

>>>tyler
>>>the consumer watchdog!!!

As to what those markings mean: 

The letter "K" simply means "Kosher." Kosher, in Hebrew, means fit or proper, 
and is generally used to describe foods that are prepared in accordance with 
special Jewish dietary laws. These laws are stringent and almost 
incomprehensible to those not versed in them. 

The small "u" in a circle or ("OU") stands for the Union of Orthodox Jewish 
Congregations and shows that the food underwent rabbinical supervision in its 
preparation. (An "OUD" marking shows that the package contains dairy products,
while an "OUM" indicates the presence of meat.) 

"Parve" (also "pareve") is Yiddish for "neutral." The presence of this word on
packaging signifies that the contents of the package contain neither milk nor 
meat and thus can be combined with other ingredients in recipes. (Jewish 
dietary law forbids the mixing of meat and dairy, thus a packaged food that 
contained cheese could not be combined with, say, hamburger.) 

This variety of markings used on packaged foods alert consumers that items 
contained therein either meet the strict dietary constraints imposed by
Judaism 
on its followers or that the contents of the package can be mixed with other 
foods or can touch them. Not all Jews keep kosher, nor even among those who do
are the strictures always adhered to rigorously, but those determined upon 
being truly pious are aided in this endeavor by the presence of those
markings. 
The devout go so far as to maintain two separate sets of utensils, cookware, 
and cutting surfaces so that meat and dairy never encounter one another in 
their kitchens. It is for their benefit that otherwise puzzling kosher 
certifications on non-foodstuff items are there (e.g., certifications are 
placed upon dishwashing liquid because dishes used for dairy cannot be washed 
using a soap made from animal fats). 

Less observant Jews do not bother themselves overly much about the kosherness 
of everyday items; they avoid the out-and-out no-nos such as pork and
shellfish 
but don't lose much sleep over the animal fat content of their washing-up 
liquid, nor do they fret that cold cuts might now be resting upon a plate that
had months earlier been used to serve cheese. The proponents of the "Jewish 
Secret Tax" slander often assert that a sub rosa Jewish cabal forces large 
companies to comply via the threat of a nationwide boycott, backed by the 
underlying presumption that all Jews can be marshalled into turning their
backs 
on products that fail to display kosher certification marks. That is not the 
case ? Jews buy and use non-kosher items too, so although lack of kosher 
certification keeps the ultra-conservative crowd from buying certain products,
it doesn't prevent the less stringent from making such purchases, nor would a 
"don't buy that because it's not kosher" directive have much effect even if 
there were a secret Jewish cabal to issue it. 

Those seeking kosher certification for their products have to adhere to kosher
practices through the manufacturing process, use only kosher ingredients, and 
have their facilities regularly vetted by qualified inspectors. Kosher 
certification companies do charge for this service, which is the backbone of 
the "secret tax" claim ? it costs money to obtain and maintain kosher 
certification, thus this is an extra expense a manufacturer must bear if he's 
determined upon having that certification. Where the rumor and reality part 
ways, however, is where the money goes. Fees paid to kosher certification 
companies go to keeping those businesses afloat with the profits siphoned off 
by those companies' owners; they do not flow off into some special Jewish fund
used to advance Zionist causes. These are businesses, not charities, and those
who run them do so with every expectation of making a living, in the same 
manner that someone who owns a hardware store does so with the notion of
making 
enough from the endeavor to support himself and his family. 

Does certification add to the price of a product? Certainly, but the amount is
miniscule, especially compared to the advertising, packaging, shipping, 
research, testing, admin and finance-related costs, and a myriad of other 
components that contribute to the process of bringing a product to market or 
making it better appeal to consumers. One might as well rail against the costs
associated with selecting the ink colors and style of lettering used on a 
package ? it's all legitimate business expense, even though no one ever rails 
against the "Secret Red Ink Conspiracy" or rants about the "Helvetica Font 
Tax." 

Barbara "heading for Helvetica in a handbasket" Mikkelson 

Additional information: 

    	    A Kosher Primer 
    (Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America) 	

Last updated:   24 May 2002 
  
The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/kosher.htm


Harry Mazal  wrote:
  
> Heinz/Libby held a press conference, to tell the world the truth.
> Canadian Jewish News published articles detailing the situation, and
> complaining about the fact that some of the ZHID groups would not be getting
> the many millions of dollars from Heinz.

> Which is more reliable, Heinz and the newspaper, or you, you snivelling rat?

> On 1 Sep 2005 14:53:43 -0700, sheldon@liberman.com wrote:
> >GeorgeF wrote:
> >> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
> >> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
> >> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!

> >> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
> >> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
> >> part-time job!!

> >> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
> >> extortion tax!!

> >> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
> >> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
> >> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
> >> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
> >> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
> >> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
> >> qualified to do...

> >> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
> >> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
> >> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!


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BIGGEST SWISS PAPER SAYS 911 CAUSED BY BUSH AND HIS ZYDS
(TRANSLATION AT THE BOTTOM)

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:48:34 -0400, in soc.culture.russian "serwad"
 wrote:

BLICK, the biggest Newspaper of Switzerland and its Cover Story: "Bush-Clan 
is behind 9/11"
The rest of the article is in German, the CIA might have fast translators to 
decipher the message...

Jetzt sagen auch Schweizer zum 9/11: «Steckt doch der Bush-Clan dahinter?»

VON ELIE PETER 15.09.2006 | 12:03:15

ZÜRICH - 2973 Menschen starben bei den Anschlägen von 9/11. «Bin Laden» 
und «Al Kaida», schrie der Bush-Clan. Die Welt glaubte ihm. Inzwischen
zweifeln selbst Wissenschaftler an der Bush-Version. Auch die Schweizer
Uni-Dozenten Albert A. Stahel (63) und Daniele Ganser (34) stellen jetzt
heisse Fragen.

«Etwas stimmt nicht», sagt Strategieexperte Stahel in der «Weltwoche» und 
verweist auf den «lückenhaften» offiziellen 9/11-Report der US-Regierung 
von 2004.

Gegenüber BLICK bestätigt der Uni-Professor die Kritik:

Osama Bin Laden kann «nicht der grosse Pate» hinter den Anschlägen sein. 
Er habe nicht genug Kommunikationsmittel gehabt.

Stahel bezweifelt, dass ein Passagierflugzeug ins Pentagon krachte: «Für 
Flug-Anfänger ist es eigentlich unmöglich, das Gebäude so genau zu treffen.»

Sieben Stunden nach den Twin Towers stürzte daneben das World Trade 
Center 7 ein. Die offizielle Version: Es brannte lange. Stahel: «Gar nichts
ist klar.»

Noch weiter als Stahel geht Historiker Daniele Ganser, sein Kollege an der 
Uni Zürich. Auch die offizielle US-Version nennt er «eine 
Verschwörungstheorie»: «Es gibt 3 Theorien, die wir gleichberechtigt 
behandeln sollten»:

«Überraschungs-Theorie» Bin Laden und Al Kaida führten die Anschläge aus.

«Lass es absichtlich passieren» Teile der US-Regierung kannten die 
Al-Kaida-Pläne. Sie reagierten nicht, um eine Serie von Kriegen zu 
legitimieren.

«Führe es absichtlich selbst aus» Die Anschläge wurden vom Pentagon 
und/oder Geheimdiensten ausgeführt. Die Bin-Laden-Videos sind gefälscht. 
3000 Menschen wurden für strategische Interessen geopfert.

Ganser: «Je mehr wir forschen, desto mehr zweifeln wir an Bushs Version.» 
Für ihn ist denkbar, dass die Bush-Regierung verantwortlich war. «Bush hat 
schon so viel gelogen! Und bereits 1962 gab es im Pentagon einen Plan, 
unschuldige US-Bürger für eigene Interessen zu opfern.» So weit wie Ganser 
geht Stahel nicht: «Ich stelle nur Fragen.»

Hier der Link zum Blick: 
[url=http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/9-11/artikel45057?display=kommentar]
http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/9-11/arti...splay=kommentar[/url]

Heutiges Blick-Cover: 
[img]http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/P/d/HBPdF4VF_Pxgen_r_442xA.jpg[/img]


Was the Bush-Clan behind 9/11?
Swiss University Lecturers ask the HOT QUESTIONS
"The More We Research, the More We Doubt It"

BLICK
BY ELIE PETER
15.09.2006
ZURICH

http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/9-11/artikel45057?display=kommentar

2973 humans died in the events of 9/11. "Bin Laden" and "al-Queda", the 
Bush clan cried. The world believed him. In the meantime, even scientists
doubt the Bush version. Also the Swiss University lecturers, Albert A. Stahel
(63) and Daniele Ganser (34), now ask hot questions.

"Something is not right", says strategy expert, Stahel, in the "World Week", 
and he refers to the "incomplete" official 9/11-Report of the US Government 
of 2004.

In response to BLICK the university professor confirms the criticism:

Osama Ben Laden cannot be "the grand godfather" behind the events. 
He could not have had enough means of communication.

Stahel doubts that a passenger airline hit the Pentagon: "For flight 
beginners it would have been actually impossible to target the building so 
exactly."

Seven hours after the twin Towers collapsed, beside it, the World Trade 
Center 7 collapsed. The official version: It burned for a long time. Stahel: 
"nothing at all is clear."

Stahel goes further than historian, Daniele Ganser, his colleague at the 
University of Zurich. He also calls the official US version "a conspiracy 
theory": "There are 3 theories, which should we treat equally?":

* "Surprise theory" - Bin Laden and al-Qaeda implemented the events.

* "Let it happen intentionally" - parts of the US Government knew of 
al-Queda's plans. They did not react, in order to legitimize a series of 
wars.

* "It was intentionally played out" - the events were implemented by the 
Pentagon and/or secret services. The Bin Laden videos were falsified. 
3000 humans were sacrificed for strategic interests.

Ganser: "The more we research, the more we doubt the Bush version." It is 
conceivable that the Bush government was responsible. "Bush already lied 
so much! And it already occured in 1962 that the Pentagon had a plan to 
sacrifice innocent US citizens for its own interests." Stahel does not go as 
far as Ganser: "I have only questions."







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Der Jude ist ein dreckiger Hund, erbärmlich, Parasit usw. (Auflösung)

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:59:13 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc egon-karl ullrich
 wrote:

Ein Teil der Auflösung des 'Rätsel - ja-wie-kann-denn-der-sowas-sagen-?' 
ist ja bereits veröffentlicht im Artikelstran "Der Jude ist ein Parasit" 
(wer lesen kann und will ist klar im Vorteil, der meist dämliche Spruch 
trifft hier mal wirklich zu), dort gibts auch ein zion. Original-Buch 
zum runterladen:

Es handelt sich in den "Subjects" um Zitate aus der zionistischen 
Literatur von zionistischen Philosophen und zion. Vordenkern bzw. aus 
der unangefochtenen Fachliteratur über den Zionismus bzw. über die zion. 
Ideologie. Und die zitierten sind noch harmlos, statt "dreckiger Hund", 
kann man auch übersetzen "stinkender Hund", lt. 'LEO.dict'

Wer meine Schriften kennt, dem war das auch von Anfang an klar. Anfänger 
und Deppen gibts aber auch hier in dieser NG.


Hier der Beweis aus dem marxistischen Bereich (eigentl. jüd.-marx. 
Bereich) des Herkunftsjuden Lenni Brenner, Wissenschaftsjournalist:

(aus dem Englischen)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Lenni Brenner

Zionismus im Zeitalter der Diktatoren
(Zionism in the Age of the Dictators)


2. Blut und Boden (Blood and Soil)


Die Wurzeln des zionistischen Rassismus


Es war der Antisemitismus - alleine - welcher den Zionismus begründete. 
Herzl konnte seine Bewegung in keiner Weise auf irgendeinem positiven 
jüdischen Selbstverständnis aufbauen.

Obwohl er die Unterstützung durch die Rabbiner anstrebte, war er 
persönlich nicht gläubig. Er hatte kein besonderes Interesse an 
Palästina, dem antiken Heimatland; er war ganz erpicht darauf, daß das 
kenianische Hochland akzeptiert wird, zumindest auf einer zeitweiligen 
Grundlage. Er hatte kein Interesse an Hebräisch; er betrachtete seinen 
jüdischen Staat als ein sprachliches Abbild der Schweiz.

Der Rassengedanke lag für ihn in der Luft; die deutschen Antisemiten 
sprachen von den Juden als Rasse, bald jedoch verwarf er diese Doktrin 
und nutzte in einer paradoxen Diskussion Israel Zangwill, einen seiner 
frühesten Gefolgsleute, als ein Beispiel für seine Ablehnung dieser 
Idee. Er beschrieb den englisch-jüdischen Autor so:

"... vom langnasigen Neger-Typ, mit wolligem, tief-schwarzem Haar ... er 
stützt jedoch den Rassegedanken - manches daran kann ich gelten lassen, 
ich muß lediglich ihn und dann wieder mich anschauen. Alles was ich 
sagen kann: wir sind eine historische Einheit, eine Nation mit 
anthropologischer Vielfalt." [1]


Unbekümmert von religiösen Überlegungen, schlug er einen Atheisten, den 
damals weltberühmten Autor Max Nordau, als seinen Nachfolger als 
Präsident der WZO (Zionistische Weltorganisation) vor.


Und wieder waren die Jünger weniger liberal als ihr Herr.

Nordau war mit einer Christin verheiratet und befürchtete, daß sich die 
Orthodoxen auf allen Ebenen daran stoßen würden. Er war bereits 
verheiratet, als er zum Zionismus konvertierte und wurde bald, trotz 
seiner nichtjüdischen Ehefrau, ein anerkannter jüdischer Rassist.

Am 21. Dezember 1903 gab er Eduard Drumonts radikal antisemitischer 
Zeitung 'La Libre Parole' ein Interview, in welchem er sagte, daß der 
Zionismus keine Sache der Religion sondern der Rassen-Exklusivität sei 
und "es gibt keinen, mit welchem ich in größerer Übereinstimmung in 
diesem Punkt stehe, als M. Drupont". [3]

Obwohl sich nur ein einziger nationaler Ableger der WZO (der 
holländische Verband im Jahr 1913) jemals darum bemühte, die Juden, 
welche in gemischten Ehen lebten, auszuschließen, starb der 
kosmopolitische Zionismus einen frühen Tod mit Herzl im Jahr 1904. [4]


Die Bewegung in Osteuropa, ihre Massenbasis, teilte die spontanen 
volks-religiösen Vorurteile der orthodoxen Gemeinden ihres Umfeldes.

Obwohl die traditionellen Juden Missionierung kannten und Ehen mit 
Nicht-Juden als Verstärkung ihrer Glaubenskraft ansahen, brachte später 
von der katholischen Kirche ausgehender Druck die Rabbiner dazu, 
Konvertierungen als "lästiges Jucken" zu betrachten und sie stellten die 
Missionierung ein.

Im Laufe der Jahrhunderte, wurde die Selbst-Abgrenzung zum Kennzeichen 
der Juden. Mit der Zeit betrachteten die Massen Mischehen als Verrat an 
der Orthodoxie. Obwohl im Westen nur manche Juden die Religion 
abwandelten und "Reform"-Sekten bildeten sowie andere sich vom Gott 
ihrer Vorväter gänzlich abwandten, ging der Lauf im Wesentlichen weg vom 
Judaismus.

Wenige nur stießen zur jüdischen Welt hinzu, entweder durch 
Konvertierung oder Heiraten.

Obschon der westliche Zionismus sich in einer mehr säkularen Atmosphäre 
entwickelte als jener Ost-Europas, betrachtete die Masse seiner 
Mitglieder Misch-Ehen eher als Wegführung der Juden von der Gemeinde 
denn als Hinzufügung zu ihr.

Die deutschen Akademiker, welche die zionistische Bewegung nach Herzls 
Tod übernahmen, entwickelten die modernistisch-rassistische Ideologie 
vom jüdischen Separatismus [Loslösungsstreben].

Sie waren stark beeinflußt von ihren pan-germanischen Studenten-Kollegen 
der 'Wandervögel' (Zugvögel oder Freigeister), welche den deutschen 
Campus vor 1914 dominierten. Diese Chauvinisten wiesen die Juden als 
nicht von germanischem Blut zurück; folglich konnten sie niemals Teil 
des Deutschen Volkes sein und waren grundsätzlich Fremde auf deutschem 
Boden. Alle jüdischen Studenten waren gezwungen, sich mit diesen 
Konzepten, welche sie umringten, auseinander zu setzen.

Ein paar bewegten sich nach links und wurden Sozialdemokraten. Für jene 
war dies [der Wandervögel-Chauvinismus, Anm. eku] nur ein mehr 
bourgeoiser Nationalismus und war als solcher zu bekämpfen.

Die meisten blieben herkömmlich kaisertreu, standhafte Nationalisten, 
welche darauf beharrten, daß tausend Jahre auf deutschem Boden aus ihnen 
"Deutsche mosaischen Glaubens" gemacht hatten.

Aber ein Anteil der jüdischen Studenten eignete sich die 
'Wandervögel'-Ideologie an und übertrug sie einfach in zionistische 
Terminologie.

Sie stimmten mit den Antisemiten in mehreren Punkten überein: die Juden 
waren kein Teil des Deutschen Volkes und, natürlich, Juden und Deutsche 
sollten sich nicht geschlechtlich vermischen, nicht aus den traditionell 
religiösen Gründen, sondern um der Reinheit ihres eigenen einzigartigen 
Blutes willen.

Da nicht von deutschem Blut, hätten sie zwangsläufig ihren eigenen Boden 
zu bekommen: Palästina.

Auf den ersten Blick schien es befremdlich, daß jüdische Studenten aus 
der Mittel-Klasse derart beeinflußt durch antisemitisches Gedankengut 
sein sollten, besonders, da zur selben Zeit der Sozialismus mit seiner 
assimilationistischen Haltung gegenüber den Juden beträchtliche 
Unterstützung in der Gesellschaft um sie herum gewann.

Der Sozialismus appelierte jedoch vorwiegend an die Arbeiter, nicht an 
die Mittel-Klasse; in ihrer Umwelt herrschte der Chauvinismus vor, 
obwohl intellektuell, lehnten sie ihre Verbindung zum Deutschen Volk ab, 
und in der Tat, niemals emanzipierten sie sich von der deutschen 
Kapitalistenklasse, den ganzen Ersten Weltkrieg hindurch unterstüzten 
sie leidenschaftlich ihre eigene Regierung.


[Anm. eku: s.a. "Max-Bodenheimer-Archiv". Deutsche Zionisten bilden im 
1. WK mittels maßgeblicher Beteiligung der Kölner Fam. Bodenheimer 
(=zionistisches Establishment) Unterstützungskommitee, dieses reist an 
die Ostfront, bildet Judenräte in den befreiten Gebieten Polens, nennt 
die Juden Europas "Deutsche" oder "deutschenfreundlich" und - nicht 
zuletzt - sitzt buchstäblich als Ehren-Gast an Kaisers Esstisch!]


In all ihrem grandiosen intellektuellen Anspruch, war ihr völkischer 
Zionismus doch nur einfach eine Imitation der deutschen 
nationalistischen Ideologie. Deshalb war der junge Philosoph Martin 
Buber fähig, während dem Ersten Weltkrieg den Zionismus mit inbrünstigem 
deutschen Patriotismus zu verbinden.

In seinem Buch 'Drei Reden über das Judentum', veröffentlicht im Jahre 
1911, sprach Buber über einen Jugendlichen, der:

"einen Sinn hat für die Unsterblichkeit der Generationen einer 
Blutgemeinschaft, welche er als Vorgänger seines Ich empfindet, dessen 
Ausdauer wird unendlich währen.

Hinzu kommt die Entdeckung, befördert durch sein Bewußtsein, daß Blut 
eine tief verwurzelte, nährende Kraft im Inneren jedes einzelnen 
Menschen ist;

daß die tiefsten Schichten unseres Seins vom Blut bestimmt sind;

daß unser innerstes Denken und unser Wille davon gefärbt sind.

Jetzt findet er heraus, daß die Welt um ihn eine Welt der Eindrücke und 
Einflüsse ist, wohingegen Blut das Reich einer beeinflußbaren und 
beeindruckbaren Substanz ist, einer Sustanz die alles in ihre eigene 
Form aufnimmt und anpasst, und, wer auch immer, vor die Wahl, Umgebung 
oder Blut gestellt, sich für die Substanz entscheidet, fortan ein wahrer 
Jude aus seinem Innersten sein muß, um zu leben als ein Jude mit all den 
Widersprüchen, der Tragödie und all der späteren Verheißung seines 
Blutes" [5]

[Anm. eku: naturgemäß unvollkommene Rückübersetzung, werde noch 
versuchen, den Originaltext Bubers zu bekommen...]

Die Juden leben in Europa seit Jahrtausenden, weit länger, sagen wir 
mal, als die Ungarn. Niemand träumte davon, sich auf die Ungarn als 
Asiaten zu beziehen, jedoch, so Buber, die Juden Europas wären noch 
Asiaten und würden es voraussichtlich immer bleiben.

"Du kannst den Juden aus Palästina rauskriegen, aber niemals Palästina 
raus aus dem Juden."


Im Jahr 1916 schrieb Buber, daß der Jude:

"vertrieben wurde aus seinem Land und über die Länder des Abendlandes 
verstreut wurde, jedoch, trotz all dem, blieb er ein Orientale. Man kann 
all dies im noch so sehr assimlierten Juden entdecken, wenn man Zugang 
zu seiner Seele gewinnt ... der unvergängliche, allen Juden gemeinsame 
Trieb - dieser wird in das Sein einkehren nach einer Fortdauer des 
Lebens in Palästina ... Sobald der Trieb mit seiner Mutters Scholle in 
Berührung kommt, wird er wieder schöpferisch." [6]

Bubers völkischer Zionismus, mit seinen ausgesuchten Strängen mystischen 
Überschwangs, war jedoch zu vergeistigt um ein breites Publikum 
anzusprechen.

Was gebraucht wurde, war eine populäre zionistische Version des 
Sozial-Darwinismus, welcher die bourgoise intellektuelle Welt des 
aufbrechenden europäischen imperialen Wettbewerbs nach Afrika und nach 
Osten überschwemmte.

Die zionistische Version dieser Auffassung wurde von dem 
österreichischen Anthropologen Ignatz Zollschan entwickelt. Für ihn war 
der verborgene Nutzen des Judaismus, daß jener, obgleich unabsichtlich, 
das Wunder der Wunder bewirken würde:

"Eine Nation von reinem Blut, unverdorben von den Krankheiten des 
Exzesses oder der Unmoral, von einem hoch entwickelten Sinn für 
familiäre Reinheit und von tief verwurzelten tugendhaften Gewohnheiten 
würde eine außergewöhnliche geistige Regsamkeit entwickeln. 
Darüberhinaus sorgt das Verbot der Mischehen dafür, daß dieser 
höchst-ethische Schatz durch reinmixen von weniger umsichtig 
hervorgebrachten Rassen nicht verloren geht ... daraus resultiert eine 
naturgemäße Auswahl, welche keine Parallele in der Geschichte der 
menschlichen Rasse findet ... Wenn eine Rasse, die so hoch beschenkt 
ist, die Gelegenheit bekommt, erneut ihre ursprüngliche Kraft zu 
entwickeln, kann dem nichts gleichkommen, soweit es den kulturellen Wert 
anbelangt." [7]

Sogar Albert Einstein unterschrieb die zionistischen Rassenkonzepte, 
damit verstärkte er den Rassismus und verlieh ihm das Prestige seiner 
Reputation. Seine eigenen Beiträge zur Diskussion klingen entsprechend 
tiefsinnig, sie beruhen jedoch auf dem selben Unsinn.

"Nationen mit rassischen Unterschieden scheinen Instinkte zu besitzen, 
welche gegen ihre Verschmelzung wirken. Die Assimilation der Juden in 
die europäischen Nationen ... konnte nicht das Gefühl eines Mangels an 
Verwandtschaft zwischen ihnen und jenen, unter denen sie lebten, 
beseitigen. Letzten Endes ist das instinktive Gefühl des fehlenden 
Verwandschaftsverhältnisses auf das Gesetz der Energieerhaltung 
zurückzuführen. Aus diesem Grund kann es [das instinktive Mangelgefühl, 
Anm. eku] durch keinen noch so wohlmeinenden Druck ausgerottet werden." [8]

Buber, Zollschan und Einstein waren nur drei der klassischen Zionisten, 
welche hochtrabend gelehrt über Rassen-Reinheit redeten. Jedoch konnte 
der schiere Fanatismus Einiger nicht den des Amerikaners Maurice Samuel 
einholen.

Als ein gut bekannter Autor jener Zeit - später, in den 1940er Jahren 
arbeitete er mit Weizman an dessen Autobiographie - wendete sich Samuel 
im Jahre 1927 in seinem Werk, 'Ich, der Jude', an die amerikanische 
Öffentlichkeit. Er denunzierte mit Horror eine Stadt, der er 
bereitwillig zugestand, daß er sie nur vom Hörensagen kannte - und von 
der uns die vorgelegten Hinweise nahelegen, daß es sich um die 
ungebunden lebende Künstler-Kolonie bei Taos, Neu-Mexiko, handelt:

"Auf diesem kleinen Platz kamen Repräsentanten der afrikanischen Neger, 
der Amerikaner und der chinesischen Mongolen zusammen, der Semite und 
der Arier ... freie Mischehen setzen sich durch ... Warum erfüllt mich 
dieses Bild, teils wirklich, teils phantastisch, mit einem befremdenden 
Abscheu, suggeriert es das Ekelerregende, das düstere Bestialische? ... 
Wieso ruft dieses Dorf, wie meine Phantasie heraufbeschwört, den 
Gedanken an einen Haufen Reptilien hervor, die hässlich in einem 
Wasserkübel brüten?" [9]



"Um ein guter Zionist zu sein, muß man ein bißchen Antisemit sein"


Obwohl 'Blut' ein wiederkehrendes Thema in der zionistischen 
vor-Holokaust-Literatur war, war dieses nicht so zentral wie die 
Botschaft vom 'Boden'.

Solange Amerikas Grenzen [relativ, Anm. eku] offen blieben, fragten 
Europas Juden: wenn der Antisemitismus nicht in seiner Heimat bekämpft 
werden konnte, warum sollten sie nicht einfach der Menge nach Amerika 
folgen?

Die zionistische Antwort war doppelt gewappnet: Antisemitismus würde die 
Juden begleiten, wohin immer sie auch gingen, und, darüberhinaus, es 
waren die Juden selbst, welche den Antisemitismus durch ihre eigene 
Charackteristik hervor riefen.

Die Wurzel des Antisemitismus, beharrten die Zionisten, war die jüdische 
Exil-Existenz.

Die Juden lebten parasitär von ihren "Wirtsvölkern". Es gäbe so gut wie 
keine jüdischen Bauern in der Diaspora. Die Juden lebten in den Städten, 
sie waren der manuellen Arbeit entfremdet, oder, um es unverblümt zu 
sagen, sie mieden diese und beschäftigten sich lieber mit 
intellektuellen oder kommerziellen Angelegenheiten. Ihre Beanspruchung 
des Patriotismus war bestenfalls hohl, da sie ewig von Land zu Land 
wanderten. Und als sie selbst sich einbildeten, sie wären Sozialisten 
und Internationalisten, waren sie in Wirklichkeit nicht mehr als die 
Mittelsmänner der Revolution, welche die "Schlachten anderer Leute" 
ausfochten.

Diese zusammengefaßten Lehren waren bekannt als 'Shelilat Ha'galut' [Die 
Verneinung der Diaspora], an der sich das gesamte Spektrum der Zionisten 
festhielt, nur in Details variiert.

Sie wurden in der zionistischen Presse energisch vertreten, in der die 
ausgeprägte Qualität vieler Artikel aus der Feindseligkeit gegenüber dem 
gesamten jüdischen Volk bestand. Wenn irgendjemand diese Fetzen ohne 
Kenntnis der Quellen las, würde er automatisch vermuten, daß sie der 
antisemitischen Presse entstammten.

Die 'Weltanschauung' der Jugendorganisation 'Hashomer Hatzair' [Junge 
Wächter], ursprünglich verfaßt im Jahr 1917, allerdings erst 1936 wieder 
neu veröffentlicht, war typisch für diese Art Ergüsse:

"Der Jude ist die Karikatur eines normalen, natürlichen Menschen, in 
physischer wie spiritueller Hinsicht. Als Einzelwesen in der 
Gesellschaft rebelliert er und wirft die gesellschaftlichen Bindungen 
ab, er kennt weder Ordnung noch Disziplin." [10]


Ganz ähnlich konnte so im Jahre 1935 Ben Frommer, ein Autor der 
ultra-rechten zionistisch-revisionistischen Bewegung, nicht weniger als 
16 Millionen seiner Mit-Juden [offenbar wurde seine Erklärung weltweit 
verbreitet, Anm. eku] erklären, daß:

"Die Tatsache ist unabweisbar, daß die Juden kollektiv krank und 
neurotisch sind. Jene Berufs-Juden, welche nun erschüttert diese 
Wahrheit entrüstet zurückweisen, sind die größten Feinde ihrer Rasse, 
denn sie führen sie dadurch auf die Suche nach falschen Lösungen oder 
zumeist nur nach Beschönigungen." [11]

Diese Art des jüdischen Selbsthasses durchsetzte einen großen Teil des 
zionistischen Schrifttums.

Im Jahre 1934 erregte Yehezkel Kaufman - damals berühmt als Gelehrter 
für biblische Geschichte an der Hebräischen Universität zu Jerusalem, 
und obwohl selbst Zionist, dennoch ein Gegner der bizarren Theorie der 
Negation der Diaspora - wütende Kontroversen durch eine Auswahl der 
hebräischen Literatur mit noch schlimmeren Beispielen.

Auf Hebräisch konnten die pathetischen Schreiber ihre Mit-Juden ohne 
Furcht vor dem Vorwurf, den Judenhassern Munition zu liefern, regelrecht 
zur Sau machen. Kaufmans 'Hurban Hanefesh' (Holokaust der Seele) zitiert 
dazu drei der klassisch-zionistischen Vordenker.

Für Micah Yosef Berdichevsky waren die Juden "keine Nation, kein Volk, 
keine Menschen".

Für Yosef Chaim Brenner waren sie nicht mehr als "Zigeuner, dreckige 
Hunde, nicht-menschlich, erbärmliche Hunde".

Für Aaron David Gordon war sein Volk nicht besser als "Parasiten, 
grundsätzlich unnütze Leute". [12]

[Anm. eku: dieses Buch Kaufmans, wohl als eine Kritik an den 
zionistischen Pöbeleien gemeint, hatte Julius Streicher lt. Text der 
Webseite der frommen, ultra-orthodoxen Juden, JewsAgainstZionism, 
gekannt, aus dieser Quell hatte Streicher offenbar eine Reihe seiner 
Beschreibungen und Ausdrücke für die Juden gewonnen]

Natürlich mußte Maurice Samuel seine Schönschrift einbringen, um 
Verleumdungen gegen seine Mit-Juden zusammen zu brauen.

Im Jahr 1924 fabrizierte er in seinem Werk 'Ihr Nicht-Juden' (You 
Gentiles) eine von ihrem eigenen bösartigen Schöpfer gegen die 
christliche Ordnung angetriebene Judenheit:

"Wir Juden, wir, die Zerstörer, werden für immer die Zerstörer bleiben. 
Egal was ihr macht, nie wird es unserem Anspruch genügen. Ewig werden 
wir zerstören, denn wir brauchen unsere eigene Welt, eine Gottes-Welt, 
zu deren Erschaffung ihr nicht veranlagt seid ... jene von uns, welche 
diese Wahrheit nicht begreifen, werden sich immer wiederfinden in 
Allianz mit euren rebellischen Gruppen, bis die Desillusionierung kommt, 
unser elendes Schicksal, welches uns in eurer Mitte verstreute, hat uns 
diese unwillkommene Rolle aufgedrängt." [13]


Der Labour-Zionismus [linke, nicht-marxistische Strömung] brachte seine 
eigene einzigartige Sorte des jüdischen Selbsthasses hervor.

Trotz seines Namens und Anspruches, war der Labour-Zionismus niemals 
fähig, einen signifikanten Anteil der jüdischen Arbeiterklasse in auch 
nur irgendeinem Land der Diaspora für sich einzunehmen.

Seine Mitglieder führten ein selbst-widerlegendes Argument an: sie 
behaupteten, daß die jüdischen Arbeiter nur in "marginalen" Industrien 
beschäftigt seien, in solchen wie der Nadel-Industrie [Nadeln für 
Textilherstellung und Grammophone, Anm. eku], welche keine wesentliche 
Bedeutung für die VolksWirtschaften der "Wirts"-Nationen hatten, daher 
würden die jüdischen Arbeiter immerwährend marginal für die 
Arbeiterbewegung in den Ländern ihres Aufenthalts bleiben.

Jüdische Arbeiter, so wurde behauptet, könnten einen "gesunden" 
Klassenkampf nur in ihrem eigenen Land wagen.

Arme Juden zeigten natürlich wenig Interesse an einer sogenannten 
Arbeiter-Bewegung, welche ihnen nicht etwa erzählte, mit allem was sie 
vermochten für die Verbesserung der gegenwärtigen Bedingungen zu 
kämpfen, sondern sich eher um das weit entfernte Palästina zu sorgen.

Der Ruf der zionistischen Arbeiter-Bewegung richtete sich paradoxerweise 
primär an jene jungen Mittelklasse-Juden, welche den Bruch zu ihrer 
Herkunfts-Klasse suchten, war jedoch nicht bereit, sich dann den 
Arbeitern der Länder ihres Aufenthalts zu zuwenden.

Der Labour-Zionismus wurde so eine Art Gegenkultur-Sekte, welche die 
jüdischen Marxisten wegen deren Internationalismus und die jüdische 
Mittelklasse als parasitische Ausbeuter der "Wirts"völker anprangerte.

Im Endeffekt übertrugen sie den traditionellen Antisemitismus ins 
Jiddische: die Juden waren in den falschen Ländern in den falschen 
Berufen und machten die falsche Politik.

Es brauchte den Holokaust, um diesem Gejammer einen Sinn zu geben.

Erst dann erkannten sie den gemeinsamen Nenner in ihrer eigenen 
Botschaft und der anti-jüdischen Propaganda der Nazis.

Im März 1942 gestand Chaim Greenberg, zu der Zeit Herausgeber des 
Labour-zionistischen Presse-Organs 'Jewish Frontier' in New York, 
schmerzlich ein, daß es tatsächlich

"eine Zeit [gegeben hat,] als es für zionistische Sprecher 
(einschließlich den Schreiber) modisch war, von ihrem Standpunkt aus zu 
erklären, 'um ein guter Zionist zu sein, muß man ein bißchen Antisemit 
sein'. Bis zu diesem Tag stehen die zionistischen Labour-Kreise unter 
dem Einfluß der Vorstellung, daß die Rückkehr nach Zion einen Prozeß der 
Reinigung von unseren ökonomischen Unsauberkeiten einschließt. Jeden, 
der keine sogenannte 'produktive' manuelle Arbeit ergreift, hält man für 
einen Sünder gegen das Volk Israel und gegen die Menschheit." [14]



[b]"Wasser auf die Mühlen der Nazi-Propaganda"[/b]

Wenn irgendjemandem ohne weitere Fakten erzählt würde, daß die ersten 
Zionisten Rassisten waren, würde derjenige automatisch vermuten, daß 
dies ein Teil der kolonialistischen Seite des Zionismus in Palästina sei.

Tatsächlich ist dem nicht so; Der 'Blut-Zionismus' hätte sich auch 
entwickelt, wenn Palästina komplett unbewohnt gewesen wäre. Die 
Begeisterung für 'Blut und Boden' war bereits Teil des Zionismus, bevor 
der erste moderne Zionist jemals Europa verließ.

Der Rassen-Zionismus hingegen war ein merkwürdiger Ableger des 
Rassen-Antisemitismus.

Gewiß, so argumentierten die Zionisten, die Juden waren eine reine 
Rasse, bestimmt reiner als, sagen wir mal, die Deutschen, die einen 
großen Zuschlag slawischen Blutes besaßen, wie sogar die All-Deutschen 
eingestanden. Für diese Zionisten konnte jedoch noch nicht mal ihr 
Glaube an die Rassen-Reinheit den einen Makel der jüdischen Existenz 
überspielen: die Juden verfügten nicht über ihren eigenen jüdischen Boden.

Wenn die teutonischen Rassisten sich als 'Übermenschen' sehen konnten, 
sahen diese hebräischen Rassisten die Juden eben nicht in diesem Licht; 
eher war das Gegenteil der Fall.

Sie glaubten, daß wegen des Fehlens eines eigenen Bodens die Juden 
"Untermenschen" wären, daher wären diese, aus der Sicht ihrer "Wirte", 
wenig mehr als Blutsauger: die Welt-Pest eben.

Wenn man an den Wahrheitsgehalt der rassischen Exklusivität glaubt, 
fällt es schwer, etwas gegen den Rassismus von irgendjemand anderem 
einzuwenden.

Wenn man weiters daran glaubt, daß es für ein Volk unmöglich ist, gesund 
zu bleiben, außer in seinem eigenen Heimatland, kann man nichts gegen 
irgendeinen anderen einwenden, der "Fremde" von seinem Territorium 
ausschließt.

Tatsächlich jedoch dachte der Durchschnitts-Zionist selbst niemals 
daran, das zivilisierte Europa zu verlassen, um es gegen die Wildnis 
Palästinas einzutauschen. In Wirklichkeit ist es offensichtlich, daß ihm 
die zionistische 'Blut und Boden'-Ideologie eine vortreffliche 
Begründung lieferte, den Antisemitismus nicht auf dessen Heimatboden zu 
bekämpfen: Es war nicht der Fehler der Antisemiten, es kam von dem 
eigenen Pech der Juden, ihrem Dasein im Exil.

Die Zionisten konnten tränenreich darlegen, daß in dem Verlust 
Palästinas die Wurzel des Antisemitismus lag und die Wiedergewinnung 
Palästinas die einzige Lösung der Judenfrage wäre. Alles andere könne 
nur Beschönigung sein oder zwecklos.

Walter Laqueur, Wortführer der zionistischen Historiker, fragte in 
seinem Buch, 'A History of Zionism' [Die Geschichte des Zionismus], ob 
das zionistische Beharren auf der Naturgegebenheit des Antisemitismus 
nicht doch das "Wasser auf die Mühlen der Nazi-Propaganda" war. [15]

Sicher war es das.

Laqueurs Frage kann jedoch am besten mit einer anderen Frage beantwortet 
werden: ist es schwierig, den leichtgläubigen Leser einer Nazi-Zeitung 
zu verstehen, der daraus schloß, daß das, was die Nazis erklärten und 
welchem die Zionisten - Juden - zustimmten, richtig sein müsse?

Und es kam noch schlimmer: jede jüdische Bewegung, welche über die 
Naturgegebenheit des Antisemitismus schwätzte, geradeso, als wäre jener 
"natürlich", strebte nach vertraglichen Übereinkommen mit den Nazis, als 
diese an die Macht kamen.

--------

Fußnoten und Quellen:

1. Marvin Lowenthal (ed.), The Diaries of Theodor Herzl, p.78.

2. Amos Elon, Herzl, p.255.

3. Desmond Stewart, Theodor Herzl, p.322.

4. The WZO is structured by national states, and elections are held on a 
national basis for the World Zionist Congress; the various ideological 
tendencies which are world-wide in their structure, run in the various 
national elections for delegates.

5. Martin Buber, On Judaism, pp.15-19.

6. Ibid., pp.75-7.

7. Ignatz Zollschan, Jewish Questions (1914) pp.17-18.

8. Solomon Goldman, Crisis and Decision (1938), p.116.

9. Maurice Samuel, I, the Jew, pp.244-6.

10. Our Shomer “Weltanschauung”, Hashomer Hatzair (December 1936), p.26.

11. Ben Frommer, The Significance of a Jewish State, Jewish Call 
(Shanghai, May 1935), p.10.

12. Yehezkel Kaufman, Hurban Hanefesh: A Discussion of Zionism and 
Anti-Semitism, Issues (Winter 1967), p.106.

13. Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, p.155.

14. Chaim Greenberg, The Myth of Jewish Parasitism, Jewish Frontiers 
(March 1942), p.20.

15. Walter Laqueur, A History of Zionism, p.500.

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The death penalty will also apply to female druggies, since they do not
discriminate based on sex.

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 12:26:14 -0400, "Paris Hilton" 
wrote:

>All backwards, ignorant societies, to be sure.

>Why don't you expound on how wonderfully the aforementioned 4 countries 
>treat their women?

>"MattKern"  wrote in message 
>news:po2363d8tmo9g0rscp7hbpusm23m5l5ai0@4ax.com...
>> At least some countries know what to do with the human garbage involved 
>> with drugs!

>> Malaysia,Singapore,  Indonesia and Saudi Arabia know that an executed 
>> criminal will never re-offend.

>> Pity that the UK, Canada and the US still have not learned this!


>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 00:49:01 +1000, BernardZ  
>> wrote:

>>>Alex the death penalty still exists in Saudi Arabia

>>>http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?
>>>xfile=data/middleeast/2007/May/middleeast_May217.xml§ion=middleeast&
>>>col=

>>>RIYADH - A Saudi convicted of murder and two Pakistanis found guilty of
>>>drug trafficking were beheaded by the sword on Sunday, the interior
>>>ministry said.

>>>Mufreh bin Ahmad al-Missbali Assiri stabbed to death Abdullah bin
>>>Mohammed al-Mudhlim Assiri after an argument, the ministry said in a
>>>statement carried by the state news agency SPA.

>>>He was executed in the southwestern region of Assir.

>>>The two Pakistani men were beheaded in the Red Sea city of Jeddah for
>>>drug trafficking, the ministry said in a separate statement.

>>>Nasser Khan and Abdulrasheed Musharaf were caught trying to smuggle
>>>undisclosed amounts of heroin hidden in their stomachs into the kingdom,
>>>the ministry said.

>>>The beheadings brought to 66 the number of executions announced by the
>>>Saudi authorities this year.

>>>At least 37 people were executed in 2006, while 83 were put to death in
>>>2005 and 35 the year before, according to AFP tallies based on official
>>>statements.

>>>Executions are usually carried out in public in Saudi Arabia, which
>>>applies a strict form of sharia, or Islamic law. Rape, murder, apostasy,
>>>armed robbery and drug trafficking can all carry the death penalty.




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In Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia, all the garbage drug people get the same
treatment, no matter their colour.

All get the "long drop", which means they will no longer be a burden on
society.

They publicly advertise : DADAH MEANS DEATH at all points of entry, so that
the druggies know the penalty before entering the countries.


On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:33:33 +0800, "Agong Mat"  wrote:

>If these two unfortunate smuglers were white, it will be a different
>scaenario. The Oz PM, the GZ Governor and the Queen will all fight to save
>the white trash. So, you see, it alls boils down to racism! I just hope
>spmeday, some whute trash are caught in Malaysia and Singapore.

>"MattKern"  wrote in message
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>> At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people,
>> such as drug dealers.
>>
>> They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
>> criminal will never re-offend!!
>>
>> Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the
>upkeep
>> in some pampering prison system!!
>>
>> If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow
>suit!!!
>> Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just
>arrested!!
>>
>>
>> On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking" 
>wrote:
>>
>> >AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>> >Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>> >this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>> >the streets of Sydney.
>>
>> >The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>> >drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>> >radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>> >doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.
>>
>> >But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>> >tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>> >raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>> >a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>> >opposes the death penalty worldwide.
>>
>> >Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>> >Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>> >to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>> >traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>> >executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.
>>
>> >It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>> >Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>> >December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>> >appeals for clemency.
>>
>> >It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>> >despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>> >there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>> >bodies or conceal it in their luggage.
>>
>> >Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>> >Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>> >and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>> >lethally injects traffickers.
>>
>> >Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>> >Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>> >information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>> >of couriers the trade calls "mules".
>>
>> >"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>> >drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>> >he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>> >the law of quick dollars."
>>
>> >The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>> >sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>> >already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>> >his own party room.
>>
>> >The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>> >February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>> >uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.
>>
>> >Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>> >remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>> >previous successful run and another aborted attempt.
>>
>> >This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>> >determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>> >and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>> >treaties.
>>
>> >"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>> >engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>> >them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>> >we will continue to operate within."
>>
>> >What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>> >over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>> >execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.
>>
>> >The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>> >was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>> >the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.
>>
>> >"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>> >citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.
>>
>> >Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>> >Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>> >illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.
>>
>> >While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>> >action.
>>
>> >The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>> >the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>> >Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>> >charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>> >do as it thought best until charges were laid.
>>
>> >By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>> >evidence had been gathered.
>>
>> >Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>> >drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>> >choose who it chooses to cooperate with."
>>
>> >International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>> >the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>> >Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>> >a decade.
>>
>> >Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>> >threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.
>>
>> >Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>> >penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>> >support of up to 80 per cent.
>>
>> >In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>> >that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>> >for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>> >die.
>>
>> >Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.
>>
>> >In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>> >Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>> >acts of terrorism.
>>
>> >Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>> >Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>> >said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>> >pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.
>>
>> >How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.
>>
>> >Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>> >out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>> >Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.
>>
>> >Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>> >inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>> >times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>> >shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.
>>
>> >It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>> >High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>> >Jakarta.
>>
>> >And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>> >grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>> >his mind.
>>
>> >Death penalty Australia's double dilemma
>> >
>> >18.02.06
>> >By Greg Ansley
>>
>



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At least some countries know what to do with the human garbage involved with
drugs!

Malaysia,Singapore,  Indonesia and Saudi Arabia know that an executed criminal
will never re-offend.

Pity that the UK, Canada and the US still have not learned this!


On Wed, 30 May 2007 00:49:01 +1000, BernardZ  wrote:

>Alex the death penalty still exists in Saudi Arabia

>http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?
>xfile=data/middleeast/2007/May/middleeast_May217.xml§ion=middleeast&
>col=


>RIYADH - A Saudi convicted of murder and two Pakistanis found guilty of 
>drug trafficking were beheaded by the sword on Sunday, the interior 
>ministry said.

>Mufreh bin Ahmad al-Missbali Assiri stabbed to death Abdullah bin 
>Mohammed al-Mudhlim Assiri after an argument, the ministry said in a 
>statement carried by the state news agency SPA.

>He was executed in the southwestern region of Assir.

>The two Pakistani men were beheaded in the Red Sea city of Jeddah for 
>drug trafficking, the ministry said in a separate statement.

>Nasser Khan and Abdulrasheed Musharaf were caught trying to smuggle 
>undisclosed amounts of heroin hidden in their stomachs into the kingdom, 
>the ministry said.

>The beheadings brought to 66 the number of executions announced by the 
>Saudi authorities this year.

>At least 37 people were executed in 2006, while 83 were put to death in 
>2005 and 35 the year before, according to AFP tallies based on official 
>statements.

>Executions are usually carried out in public in Saudi Arabia, which 
>applies a strict form of sharia, or Islamic law. Rape, murder, apostasy, 
>armed robbery and drug trafficking can all carry the death penalty.



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On TV, reporters are complaining about the fact that GEKO never did build the
facility in Edmonton, Canada, which was supposed to cost C$32 Million!!

Man muss wundern, wer hat $32 Millionen Geld, wenn es kein Plant gibt?
Ist $32 MILLIONEN  verschwunden?

On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:23:37 -0700, Ariadne  wrote:

>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today in December, the
>report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT EVEN
>THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE COMPUTER 
>RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!

>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>interests of the public, and charities.

>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.

>From: Ken Levi 
>Newsgroups:
>de.soc.wirtschaft,de.soc.politik.misc,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.germany
>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700

>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??

>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>from Germany?

>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>disappearance of this money from their control?
>
>
>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>
>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>
>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>
>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>
>
>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt - Did GEKO pay the taxes 
>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>
>
>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the 
>>local garbage dump.
>
>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>
>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in 
>>business in a nearby town.
>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and 
>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>
>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor 
>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>
>
>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>Message-ID: <199907251430.QAA17273@mail.replay.com>#1/1
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>
>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>to attend this year's Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>
>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>
>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>
>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>as well as City Hall.
>
>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare  dump of
>>Deadmonton.
>
>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>Edmonton Journal 3 times - 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>
>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>
>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>
>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>
>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>
>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar 
>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over 
>>Canada and the USA!!
>
>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign...
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When your wife, daughter or girlfriend is sold into sex slavery for the ZYDS,
then perhaps you might have some compassions!!

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:53:59 -0400, Vladimir Makarenko
 wrote:

>According to number of times you posted it here there left no Christian
>girls to sell. And we Christians don't give a damn about girls of other
>confessions. 
>Could you please switch to some alt.business?
>VM.

>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:04:35 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>  wrote:

>> Russian girls who are beautiful, as well as Polish and Ukrainian
>> girls, are all sold on the open slave markets in ZHID Israel, where
>> white slavery is legal.

>> >On 25 Oct 2004 11:21:36 -0000, DerTavish 
>> >wrote:

>> >>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
>> >>and car theft in California and Oregon, the
>> >>well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
>> >>and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
>> >>the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, finally dying as a diseased
>> >>AIDS-spreader, wants all to know
>> >>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
>> >>Here is the latest.......

>> >>From: Rameses 
>> >>Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian
>> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 09:40:57 -0700
 
>> >>The June 16 Saturday supplement to the Jerusalem Post reported:

>> >>"Every year hundreds of women, and an unknown number of
>> >>girls under the age of 18, are bought, sold, drugged,
>> >>imprisoned, and forced to work as prostitutes in Israel's
>> >>thriving sex industry.
 
>> >>In countries such as Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, and Hungary,
>> >>traffickers prey on desperate women. Facing poverty, the
>> >>women are lured to Israel with the promise that they will
>> >>make fabulous salaries working as teachers or caregivers.

>> >>In Israel prostitution is not illegal. Nor is there
>> >>legislation against trafficking or slavery".

>> >>With the governments of eastern Europe controlled by the
>> >>evil mafia bosses that profit from this trade, don't
>> >>expect anything to be done about this sickening crime
>> >>against humanity.


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
 
>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
 
>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant


>> Posted by:
>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>> 1836 NW 11th St
>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>> (405) 524-0576

>> together with
 
>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>> Henry who like
>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>> VISIT me at:
>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>> office: VISIT at:
>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>> or call: 1-250-616-9431

>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>> should give an indication as to the why.

>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>> work:(780)492-0473

>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>> JEW-WATCH:
>> http://www.jewwatch.com

>> Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>> NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>> people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>> Or, other useful websites include:
>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>     Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>     Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
 
>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>> for many years around the world.

>> Reply-To: "George" 



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>On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, "Venceremos"  wrote:

>>The Accusations

>>     Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>>     Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
>>     British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
>>     escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
>>     February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

>>     I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
>>     I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
>>     deeds of the war.

>>     While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still
>>     on my arm

>>     Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
>>     uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

>>     Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

>>     Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>     little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>>     when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>>     (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

>>     These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>>     published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>>     "I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
>>     commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
>>     in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
>>     future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
>>     directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>     political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>     authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

>>     This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>>     lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
>>     Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
>>     collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>     hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
>>     Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
>>     camps, the price...was not too high for me.

>>     "...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
>>     Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
>>     While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
>>     another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
>>     with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>     he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>>     "Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
>>     a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

>>     "As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
>>     between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
>>     immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>>     would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>>     blood to achieve his political goal...
>>     'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
>>     this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
>>     service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
>>     would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>     concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>>     That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
>>     (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

>>     Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
>>     do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
>>     money and military equipment."

>>     Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>     According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
>>     When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
>>     citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
>>     Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
>>     views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>>     official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
>>     Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
>>     of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>     -88-

>KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

>Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER, 
>and RUMKOWSKI!!
>The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

>Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi 
>GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


>On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer  wrote:

>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>Here is the latest.......

>>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>>Date: 1997/07/12

>>The Kastner Case

>>Introduction

>>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>>and will show that on this question 'The documentation available is
>>overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks
>>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>>most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>>3CR for anti-semitism.

>>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>>what Kastner was accused of.

>>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>>been unable to find out what it is all about.

>>The Accusations

>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>>he wrote:

>>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>>Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>>of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there.

>>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>>not too high for me.

>>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)

>>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>>The Verdict

>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>>backfire on the censors themselves.

>>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.

>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>>the Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.

>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.

>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.

>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.

>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>>expensively if honorably guided.

>>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.

>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.

>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?

>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.

>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from the book of the living.

>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.

>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>>to another."

>>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>>General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>>"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.

>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.

>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.

>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.

>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>>the good intention of good Becher'.

>>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>>Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>>in Nuremberg.

>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements." (ibid)

>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.

>>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>>matter.

>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.

>>But the story does not end there.

>>The Reaction

>>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>>now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.

>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:

>>"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)

>>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
>>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

>>"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>>defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).

>>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:

>>"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>>defense." (23 June 1955)

>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.

>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>> disclose." (23 June 1955)

>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.

>>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
>>*Ma'ariv*:

>>"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>>of our history!

>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)

>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand here
>>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>>representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p. 268)

>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.

>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.

>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.

>>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>>court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>rehabilitated'.

>>The Majority Judgement

>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.

>>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>>totally missing the point.

>>Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>>Kastner.
>>They JOINED him.

>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:

>>"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>>'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>>protocol 465).

>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which on can
>>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

>>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a moral and public point of view...

>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger....

>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.

>>The Minority Judgement

>>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

>>"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others....

>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.'

>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>>bribery, etc - and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a claim of such good faith...

>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...

>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
>>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.

>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>>evidence for this.

>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)

>>Conclusion

>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration with the Nazis.

>>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the 'dragging in
>>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships'.

>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.

>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>>being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.

>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.

>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.

>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>>'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, 'now dead'. Or
>>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>>Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>>before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
>>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>>secret service.
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
>>admitted in court during the murder trial).

>>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>>dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
>>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>>at least as an insurance policy.

>>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>>existed.
>>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.

>>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

>>We shall go on to prove this in detail.

>>Elias Davidsson - Oldugata 50 - 101 Reykjavik - Iceland
>>Tel. (354)-552-6444     Fax: (354)-552-6579
>>Email: edavid@itn.is     URL:  http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
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Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
Christkiller ZHIDS!!

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OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
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Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

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The more than 100 MILLION killed by ZYD COMMUNISM in the USSR, far outweighs
the few hundred thousand ZYDS who died in WWII.

The 33 millions who perished in the Ukraine alone gave the Ukrainians cause to
really dislike the ZYD kommissars and their henchmen, when they had a chance
to retaliate in the Great Patriotic war.


On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:07:02 GMT, dk@no.email.thankstospam.net (DK) wrote:
>In article <1184200078.353876.126670@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, alejandro de tacobell  wrote:
>>it's often been said that the holocaust was uniquely horrific while
>>mass killings under communism was just run-of-the-mill, only on a
>>larger scale. supposedly, nothing like the holocaust had ever happened
>>before or since.

>>jews can criticize, condemn, ridicule, mock, and spit on aspects of
>>non-jewish culture but we cannot criticize anything about jews, jewish
>>history, jewish values, jewish influence. this must change.

>The usual Tony Gaza's mental diarrhea.





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On Tue, 30 May 2006 12:19:07 -0000, Yitzhak Isaac Goldstein 
wrote:

>On 2006-05-30, le Corbeau  wrote ... 

>> wow! is Jew boy a pedophile too??? Such a pervert, his parents must be
>> mortified!

Why do you think that Dezi's dad, a cop, committed suicide?


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On Sun, 28 May 2006 15:38:31 GMT, "Daz"  wrote:
>"Unicorn"  wrote in message 
>news:AHieg.1636$xH1.280@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>> Here is a Video:
>> Scenes from the streets of Moscow
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5023466.stm

>> "Asterix"  wrote in message 
>> news:vjcj729p026a7sjcdlmosmn2jvhv2k5jd0@4ax.com...
>>> Aren't faggots supposed to be burned?
>>> Did someone forget the Molotov Cocktails for the celebrations?

>Can you imagine Asterix as president of the USA? He'd probably extend the 
>death penalty to include puffs.
>LOL
>Daz

A hell of a good idea.
I should have thought of it before you did.

>>> Glad to see that even in Russia, sensible people there do not want to
>>> create another Sodom & Gomorrah as is now in Canada, Usa and Britain!!

>>> On Sat, 27 May 2006 19:45:32 +0100, Michael McCann >>> wrote:

>>>>http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13526011,00.html

>>>>The first Gay Rights march held in Moscow has been broken up by
>>>>Russian police, militant Orthodox Christians and neo-fascists.

>>>>A group of about 40 marchers, led by 28-year-old Nikolia Alexeyev,
>>>>planned to lay flowers at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. The tomb is
>>>>symbolic of the World War Two struggle against fascism.




On Sun, 28 May 2006 19:31:28 +0300, holman@mappi.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman)
wrote:

>In article <%Sheg.31$Su3.7784@news20.bellglobal.com>, "«Pas de deux»"
> wrote:
>
>> "Pçteris Cedriòð (Peteris Cedrins)"  wrote in message
>> 
>> " even in Daugavpils the red stars on the tombs [of Red Army soldiers 
>> who died for Stalin and the Soviet Union]
>> have been replaced by Orthodox crosses (one hopes that none of those 
>> buried there were were fervent Marxist-Leninists...).
>> 
>> On the contrary.  I think it's cool that some fervent Marxist-Leninists 
>> may have ended up with crosses instead of stars on their graves.  It's 
>> only a drop in the sea of redress for the tens of thousands of Balts who 
>> sleep in crappy cemeteries {or unmarked or star-marked graves} in 
>> Siberia.  Some of my relatives included.  But Holman and a few others 
>> will tell me it was all for a good cause ... 
>
>I most certainly will not.
>
>\EH



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This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,so
that more and more people around the world will come to know the truth
about the ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZYD
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZYDS, to consider demanding repayment?


>>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>public.

>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

>>>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:51:02 -0700, Heinrich Himmelfarb
>>> wrote:
>>>Newsgroups:soc.culture.swiss,soc.culture.european,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.polish,soc.culture.germany
>>>On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>September 2004, page 86
>>>Book Review
>>>51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis
>>>By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List:$22; AET:
>>>$15.
>>>Reviewed by Sara Powell
>>>It's no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to
advance
>>>the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
>>>inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
>>>Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly
few
>>>limits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received
little
>>>coverage in the American media.

>>>Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of
letters,
>>>statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
>>>earlier  book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that
>>>documents Zionist cooperration with the Nazis.

>>>On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
>>>presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
>>>agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the
>>>Zionist plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and
>>>creating a new Jewish nation.

>>>In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
>>>organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
>>>pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
>>>Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the
Nazis.

>>>Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
>>>collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
>>>others written in response.

>>>These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists
and
>>>fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini's
Italy.
>>>Brenner's brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document
>>>are helpful, as are the glossary and index.

>>>51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
>>>requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the
part
>>>of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort,
however,
>>>are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some
>>>Zionists eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for
instance, is
>>>that they had a financial deal?Ha'avara?with Germany allowing Jews
to
>>>exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less
of
>>>a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
>>>today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
>>>efforts discover that these battles have been fought before.
>>>Moreover, the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of
'nationality'
>>>versus citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are
based on
>>>the same concept.

>>>51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term Holocaust
>>>guilt, frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
>>>not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
>>>make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who
>>>made the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to
>>>place Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives
of
>>>their threatened European brethren.

>>>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on
>>>Feb. 18, 1943:

>>>And when some asked me: Can't you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
>>>(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora? I said:
>>>?No!  And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
>>>called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I'm guilty, for the
fact
>>>that we don't give ourselves completely to rescue actions.(p. 211)

>>>However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
>>>disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
>>>reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically
>>>align themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally
saw
>>>race as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined
to
>>>keep it that way.

>>>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,'assimilation' of Jews
>>>into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable
option.
>>>Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level,
not
>>>a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, 'It is impossible for a
man
>>>to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
>>>own'
>>>(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not
a
>>>refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening
>>>sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).

>>>Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the STERN  GANG, , wrote the
>>>following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
>>>delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.

>>>3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
>>>totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would
be
>>>in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
>>>position of power in the Near East (p. 301).

>>>Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
>>>Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
>>>differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
>>>therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.

>>>Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
>>>Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
>>>and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the
>>>Zionist cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of
this
>>>book,another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than
savory
>>>roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers,
in
>>>the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after
the
>>>Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
>>>Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.

>>>51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to
>>>bring information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to
U.S.
>>>supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
>>>expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives 'both Palestinian
>>>and Israeli' in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it
>>>difficult not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem
to wear
>>>when examining Zionism.


# 5                           The Kastner Case
ZHID  KOLABORACI WITH EICHMANN & NAZIS!!
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS - 1981

Introduction

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that
there is some "controversy" about negotiations he undertook
for "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment," but that he was "fully rehabilitated" by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to
their brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their
own lives with the price of silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke
for all Jews in Hungary.
While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is
still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, "I know of your plans;
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet."

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
camps, the price...was not too high for me.

"...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

"Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

"As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
blood to achieve his political goal...
'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment."

Are the accusations against Kastner true?
According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
-88-
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Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
nord@powernetonline.com


Subject: Kastner Case=ZHID KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS!!

From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
Date: 1997/07/12

The Kastner Case

Introduction

Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of
all and will show that on this question 'The documentation available
is overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine
Speaks claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly
the most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist
collaboration broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first,
and in greater detail.

Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some
books in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its 
case appears strongest, and on the points to which it has given
greatest emphasis,we hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that
things are not quite what they may have appeared before this inquiry
began.

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
ehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
3CR for anti-semitism.

It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
what Kastner was accused of.

This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works
dealing with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart
>from 3CR, the suppression of information has been so complete, that
even an expert like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on
the matter, has been unable to find out what it is all about.

The Accusations
----------------
Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives
with the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the
council which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner
number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled
careful statistics of the exterminations...I took these terrible
statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give
Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned to
send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner went to
Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
choice and I shall keep quiet.'

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany
collapsed,to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit.
pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let
a few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
Palestine.
It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoked
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
oal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
group here'.

And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so
Jews...
That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid,
p.26ö-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is
the term that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had
known what the accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR
saying 'In these circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious
and absurd'.

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

The Verdict
------------
Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on
3CR, has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to
the Jewish community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to
promote racism, in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information
can backfire on the censors themselves.

Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
confidence in the false information that they were being transferred
to Kenyermeze.

The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
mislead the Jews.
They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
of Jewish leaders.

The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
spreading such false information and did not protest.

Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
hampering the deportation orders.

Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to
overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
community n their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
Rescue train.

The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into oollaboration with
the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.

The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
expensively if honorably guided.

Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
task easier.

The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
chiefs.

It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
underground.

The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
the extermination plan of the killers ?

The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
annihilation.

The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
Jews.
Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
that would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with
Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.

When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the
majority of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic
element in the agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement
fixed the division of the nation into two unequal camps: a small
fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on
the one hand, and the great majority of Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis
designated for death, on the other hand.
An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
already been wiped out from the book of the living.

One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
to evade this truth.

Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated
quickly to another."

(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
Generalv. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
1955).

Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
Jews.

This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
criminals.

Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

Judge Halevi continues:

"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he
concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
negate the affidavit.

The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
criminal.

The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation
in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
last minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one
overwhelming truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
declared in the affidavit.

The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one
moment the good intention of good Becher'.

It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
criminal.
Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
n Nuremberg.

Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
his statements." (ibid)

Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
unproven accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from
his Nazi partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge
also ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred
Israeli pounds as court costs.

In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
matter.

If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
pointed to much more than that.

But the story does not end there.

The Reaction
-------------
Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.

The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:

"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June
1955)

In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:

"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).

*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
defense." (23 June 1955)

But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
Government of Israel.

As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
disclose." (23 June 1955)

Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
criminal libel.

As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
*Ma'ariv*:
"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
of our history!

At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an
appeal filed.
What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24
June 1955)

At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand
here as a private individual. He was a recognized representative,
official or non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in
Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court
to defend the representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p.
268)

The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
leadership.

So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
But the story gets worse.

The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
the name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
this point Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
rehabilitated'.

The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
'fully rehabilitated'.

The Majority Judgement
-------------------------
But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
two, found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and
convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
'collaboration'.

In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
totally missing the point.

Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
that prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.

The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
Kastner.
They JOINED him.

Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
Chesin:

"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
the end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
saying, 'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
tree'.
This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness
about the Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary,
without any ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner
aide in Budapest, protocol 465).

I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
with force against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view
no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
news to the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which
one  can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.

.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
result from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the
Jewish community.
Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration
and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
that Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
scale...And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
save a few Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his
hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.

Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
many or should he disclose the truth to many though it is his best
opinion that this way everybody will perish. I think that the answer
is clear. What good will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to
perish?...As I said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings
of the learned President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi)
but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as
of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
leadership both from a moral and public point of view...

In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
what was known to them and did not warn and did not cry out of the
coming danger....

Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
people in Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)

n other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
exactly what many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did -
concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different train for Palestine.

The Minority Judgement
--------------------------
It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority
judgement of S>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General
therefore shrinks into Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:

"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
judgements on the guilt of others....

an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
he, as a result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret
of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
of the few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
result.'

I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
thousands would have been able to save their lives by local, partial,
specific or indirect rescue operations like local revolts, resistance,
escapes, hidings, concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of
documents, ransom money, bribery, etc - and when this is the case and
when one deals with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human
being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty and with an extreme
'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he
examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead
of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the last hope
of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as his
defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
to a claim of such good faith...

If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.

Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.

And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
claim that Kastner had concealed the news about the fate of the ghetto
inmates in good faith and only as a result of his complete despairing
of the chances of escaping or resisting the Germans. You can not claim
at the same time helplessness and activity.
Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...

We can sum up with three facts:
A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to
Kastner from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had
additional proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and
misleading tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first
moment of occupation.

B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
murder.
This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
evidence for this.

C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.

And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
great war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his
eyes...I couldn't base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
of events it throws retroactive light on the whole affair and serves
as a dozen proofs of our conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe
Silberg, 1957)

Conclusion
-----------
If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
advocate collaboration with the Nazis.

One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the
'dragging in of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi
relationships'.

But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.

The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.

It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.

Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.

Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
West Germany.

Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
fear of what might come out.

Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
on trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds
of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that
they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for
tickets on the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.

As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
leadership in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it,
'now dead'.

Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
secret service.
(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
admitted in court during the murder trial).

Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many
people have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is
whether, if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many
more could have been saved, and whether this is not an essential
future consideration, at least as an insurance policy.

The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the
Nazis and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had
not existed.
Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
insurance policy, is like using petrol for a fire extinguisher.

Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.

We shall go on to prove this in detail.
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Tel. (354)-552-6444     Fax: (354)-552-6579
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Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:35:10 -0700, Ernst Zundholtz
 wrote:

Looks like the filthy ZHIDS just do not like this well-documented
expose of their holohoax, and the fact that it documents 52 cases of
ZHID COLLABORATION WITH THE NAZIS!!

>>On 28 Nov 2004 10:59:36 -0800, heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net
>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:

This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know the
truth about the ZHID COLLABORATION with nazis.
It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zhid lies!!

More and more truth is coming out, about the perfidious ZHID
COLLABORATION with the nazis!!

Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?


>>>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
>>> wrote:

It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion
>> wrote:

>>>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS
with
>>>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH
made
>>>>public.

>>>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public
their
>>>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>>>It was not only the notorious KASTNER CASE!!

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Posted by:
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.


Posted by: 
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry 
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
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We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
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or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
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    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.




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From: Vishnu - destroyer of Nazi Coughlan's support of the Shoah

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On 26 Jan 2006 06:04:44 -0800, "Philippe 'Suffer the little children to come
onto me and give me a blowjob' KKKoughlan " 
after lovingly laving his tongue around the lips of his bust to Hitler wrote:

>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/

Oh, my... KKKoughlan is again displaying his affection for Grosvenor.
Arguing between themselves as to who hates the Jews more.  The fight
is on... and the votes are now being cast.  Does Grosvenor or KKKoughlan
hate the Jews more?

Think KKK doesn't hate the Jews?  Think again.  This is just a short list
of his past comments demonstrating his support for Nazi doctrine and
the "innocence" (sic) of every Nazi --

His words -- "The issue is whether or not, the Nazis, in declaring
Jews 'inhuman', were acting illegally.  They were not."  See --
http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8fcc1c8e5cb0f3d3
Him finding that it is LEGAL to declare the Jews as "inhuman."

His words -- "The Holocaust was 'a just execution for those found
guilty of being Jewish'."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/9e47adb28f22faaf

His words -- "even Auschwitz would not execute a 72-year-old man..."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/2e39751aaf992176
Insisting that Auschwitz was "more humane" than California.  And one elder
murderers is more valuable than every elderly Jewish victim of the Holocaust.

His words -- "'The Holocaust' is a term used to refer to the legal execution
of 6,000,000 Jews in the Second World War."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/88e428e1da2cf26f

His words -- "the attempted extermination of the Jews was legal..."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/0a0dee548a7e68d6

His words -- "if it's legal, it's moral, Jed"  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4e24f3730b022c53
Him finding it MORAL to find the Jews "legally inhuman" and MORAL
to kill six million of them.

His words -- "Are we to accept the word of a committee, bent
on revenge, which in itself violated the human rights of the Nazis ? See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/944deb89e3e1b631

His words posted with a slap in the face to the contributions of Simon
Wiesenthal -- 
"At the same time, let no one forget that the kidnap and hanging of Eichmann,
was a crime under international law."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7acc13b56d18263c
Essentially calling Simon Wiesenthal both a kidnapper and complicit in what
KKK insists was the "murder by lynching" of Eichmann.

In respect to the question -- "Should Maurice Papon still be imprisoned ?"
His words -- "Isn't there room for mercy ?  For the sure knowledge that this
91-year-  old man, isn't in a position to harm anyone."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/5d44b6c90151f6c4
And then begging everyone to forgive every Nazi... because he insist it's been
60 years.

His words -- "German society said that the extermination of the Jews
was a moral, legal, ethical thing to do ..."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/6028d5703b310f29
Blaming every German for the Holocaust, in the most bigoted
and hateful comment ever directed against ALL of "German society."
He might as well have said -- "Every German was a Nazi guard in an
Eastern European extermination camp."  Since his comment means
just the same.  A large part of the German population of that time
might well have supported various anti-Semitic practices, but the
idea that "German society" supported the HOLOCAUST as a
"moral, legal, ethical thing to do," is an obscenity on the part of KKK.
It is a racist comment, unparalleled by hardly any other racist comment
made in AADP.

His words -- "In the absolute, the Nazi Holocaust and the death penalty
are perfect equivalents, both morally and legally."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/09343f66a6cea661
In his words reducing six million innocent Jewish victims murdered in a few
short years to no better than a thousand proven murderers executed in more
than 25 years.  The fact is the life expectancy of a Jew setting foot in
Treblinka was measured in minutes.  Yet he insists that "morally and legally"
this was in the absolute no different than the execution of any murderer,
making each and every Jew setting foot on Treblinka the same as a proven
murderer.

His words -- "Europe has not had a war now since 1945, and in
matters of morals, has led the world for over two thousand years."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/969ba9ff6d41a2e4
A truly bizarre comment from him, which argues that all wars in Europe
for the past 2000 years were fought for moral principles.  In addition to
him claiming the Holocaust was moral.  And concluding with that
obligatory reference to Christ, to support his hate for the Jews, who
he insists were responsible for that death those 2000 years ago, with
his words -- " Educated Americans are insanely jealous of Europe,
for it is on this continent that human rights, philosophy, thought, and
science, has been a beacon to the world since the time of Christ."

Notice that he DARED to mention "human rights," given the bloody
past of Europe and so much hate for the Jews.   The persecution for
those 2000 years, the pogroms, the ghettoization, the blaming of the
Jews for every ill having befallen Europe in those 2000 years, the
crusades of killing Jews, and finally the attempt to exterminate the
Jews.  All part of what he argued was the "bright beacon of morality"
in Europe during what he insists was "it's Golden age of persecution
of the Jews."    Yeah... Americans are in awe and
insanely jealous of how perverse and methodically efficient Europeans
were at blaming the Jews for all of Europe's problems and dispatching
them with such religious fervor during those 2000 years.  Let's all
give a big cheer for Jesus 'motherfucker' Christ...the name lent to
being responsible as the greatest mass murderer of all time... but
KKKoughlan's hero.

His words in a very direct insult to the Jews of today -- "yet by
milking those terrible events for all they are worth, 60 years later, Israel
and World Jewry are only cutting their noses, to spite their face."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/c2ef9625017cc935
A comment from him filled with insults toward anyone who would
express a pro-Jewish comment of any kind, insisting that being 
pro-Jewish means being too biased to actually have a view that
is less than 150% pro-Jewish.  Essentially insulting every Jew
living today.

His words -- "certain sections of the Jewish community use the Shoah to
justify their own excesses."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e18cca69bc258b4f
His argument presumes that the Arab community needs no excuse to
justify their own excesses.

His words -- "Make up your mind: either the Holocaust was mass murder, in
which case, so is the death penalty, or the death penalty is 'just', in 
which case, so was the extermination of the Jews.   See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/b8c995d30833c827
Which is undoubtedly the most ignorantly contrived attempt at pseudo-logic
ever witnessed in AADP.  Since the proposition is only true if one equates
convicted murderers as the same as innocent Jews.  But looking beyond
that his argument is that every person who find the death penalty for
even a single murderer, even those such as John Wayne Gacy, or Ted
Bundy, or Kenneth McDuff, to be "just," by his definition must also find
the Holocaust to have been "just."

His words in denial of anti-Semitism in Europe but insisting that the
Jews of Israel are anti-Semitic -- "However, it's fatuous to claim that Europe
is 'anti-Semitic', based on the number of 'anti-Semitic' events that take
place.  If that were the only criterion, then Israel would be the most
anti-Semitic country on the planet."  See -- 
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/39504e62ed6562a9
Hoping to redefine the meaning of anti-Semitism in the English language
and excuse the anti-Semitism of Muslims at the same time.

He defended the words of the French ambassador to England, Daniel
Bernard, who referred to Israel as "that shitty little country."  In his
post that grew hysterical in accusations against the Jews of Israel
and defended that perverse comment.  One of his comments in
that blast of anti-Semitic raving from him was -- "Israel does not need to
kill children, to ensure its survival.  Israel does not need to target the
innocent families of suicide bombers, to ensure its survival.  Israel does
not need to engage in daily humiliation of innocent men and women, to
ensure its survival.  The current policies will hurt Israel more in the
long run, than they will help it.  Sharon came to power on a security
'ticket', and his brutal repression of the Palestinian people, has _not_
ensured the security of Israel and her citizens."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/4d4ec92a10b91a76
Of course you will notice the one-sided argument offered in which he
excuses children being taught to become suicide bombers to kill
innocent Jews.  Forgetting that Arafat came to power on a "kill every
Jew" ticket.  As he also admits he is "anti-Jewish government."

He claimed the Jews were quite possibly responsible for 9/11.  His
words -- "I'd put my money on either Israel, or Pakistan being behind the
attacks."  While attempting to totally absolve bin Laden as innocent.  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/ca5cddf2d27b074d

Of course he also screamed in rage that -- "No one is 'BORN' (sic) a Jew, you
spagmerchant."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/7ecf6157652669e5

But when it came to providing what he considered "proof" of him being
Jewish, he stated --  "I don't believe in God ... but I was 'born Jewish.'
See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/e7e8dbd3116d2dc6

 And how many here... even those who would call him a "friend," have said they
believe he is Jewish?  The answer is ZERO.  Even when I cajole them for an
answer.
While nine have come out and stated here that they do not believe he is
Jewish.  All we have is his raving claim, even going so far as to insist he
"wears the yellow star" as an insult to the true victims of the Holocaust, and
even going so far as to call himself a Rabbi in the use of a handle in AADP,
while laughing at the joke he believe he is playing on AADP and the Jews in
using that handle.  The fact is well-known that he makes a joke out of playing
the role of a Jew, in order to turn the tragedy of the Holocaust into his
personal comic parody.

And of course we have John Rennie's comment regarding the personal
conversation he had with Coughlan when Coughlan admitted he was not Jewish.
His words in the same BLOCK LETTERS he posted here -- "DESMOND
UNEQUIVOCALLY CONFIRMED TO ME THAT HE WAS NOT
JEWISH.   AT THE TIME OF OUR MEETING HE THOUGHT IT A
GREAT JOKE AND HE STILL DOES. HE IS NOT JEWISH, HE WAS
NOT BORN JEWISH, HE DOES NOT HAVE JEWISH ANCESTRY,
HE DOES NOT PRACTICE THE JEWISH RELIGION."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/92c993bba5d24130

Planet Visitor II 
http://home.earthlink.net/~onetimeuse/dict.html

KKKoughlan's words -- ""send that 16-year-old niece of yours around to 
give me a blowjob whenever I want one." See --
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism.death-penalty/msg/8db6438f040c09bf

Perhaps the gentle reader is not aware of KKKoughlan's own feeling as to
who he considers a "CHILD."  If so, let me provide KKKoughlan's own
words of who he feels is a "CHILD."  His words -- ""the term 'child' isn't
defined by you and your NRA buddies.  It's defined in international law,
and a 17 year old is a child until his eighteenth birthday."  See --
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/msg/a1b77a27fe4c6928

KKKoughlan... a self-admitted pedophile.



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From: Ken McVay 
Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUEDEN-MAFIA!!
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From: dna-no-spam@cotse.com
Subject: DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:10:10 -0500
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22.1.2001

DIE MACHT DER GLOBALEN JUDEN-MAFIA

Pardon, was wir genau sagen wollten ist DROGEN-, WAFFEN-,
PORNO-  und ABZOCKMAFIA.

Waehrend heutzutage rechte und braune Furze weltweit auf
den Titelseiten der Freimaurerpresse Schlagzeilen
machen, werden andere Meldungen - die tatsaechlich
veruebten Verbrechen der Globalisten und Juden betreffend,
bestenfalls als Minimeldung auf der Chronikseite gebracht.

Der freimaurerisch-judea kontrollierten Medien-Mafia ist
es z.B. gelungen einen blutigen Massenmord und
Massenvergewaltigung in Wichita (USA) an 5 Weisse
durch zwei Neger voellig zu unterdruecken.
Wird jedoch einem Nigger-Drogendealer in Deutschland
auch nur ein Haar gekruemmt, gibt es sofort in allen Medien
einen Proteststurm, Kerzerlmaersche  und alle irren
Gruen-Bolschewisten weltweit beginnen schlagartig mit
Lichterketten, Sanktionen und sonstigen Unsinn.

Ein weiteres Beispiel fuer die Macht der Juden-Mafia:
Aus Mexiko wurde heute gemeldet, dass der Ober-Pate
und einer der maechtigsten mexikanischen Drogenbosse,
der Jude Joaquin Guzman aus einem luxurioesen
"Hochsicherheitsgefaengnis" offenbar problemlos
entfliehen konnte. Wie das?

Der Direktor dieses noblen "Etablishments" und weitere
30 Waerter (!) wurden als mutmassliche Fluchthelfer
verhaftet.  Eine reine Alibihandlung, denn welcher
Richter oder Polizist dem seine Karriere, sein Leben
oder/und Familie lieb und wert ist, wird der
"Ueberredungskunst" oder/und Scheck eines Mosche
Rothschild oder Sharon Feigenbaum einen Widerstand
entgegensetzen?

Beweis: Die russisch-juedischen Pornohersteller in Moskau,
die zwar pro Forma verhaftet wurden, aber nach drei Tagen
schon wieder ihren Geschaeften im Internet nachgehen konnten.
In russischen Gefaengnissen gibt es offenbar kein koscheres
Essen und keine Synagoge. Das Verbrechen dieser
beschnittenen Ratten aus der ostjuedischen Khasarengosse:
Vor laufender Videokamera wurde Babys zu Tode vergewaltigt
und diese Videos mit horrenden Profiten verkauft, im
Internet angeboten und Teilausschnitte davon (dank
einem juedischen TV-Boss) im italienischen Fernsehen
gezeigt.  Eindeutig ein Fall fuer unsere Politiker
auch diese Art von Kulturbereicherung zu foerdern.

Da fast alle globalen Top-Verbrecher und Mafiosi
(egal ob Drogen, Menschen- oder Waffenschoieber oder
Pornokoenige) dieser Erde aus dem auserwaehlten Volk
Gottes stammen, besitzen sie zumeist auch eine israelische
Staatsbuergerschaft. Oder sie geben mitunter auch
vor, Jude zu sein.  Wohl wissend, dass Israel nicht
nur der groesste  antisemitische und rassistische
Killerstaat der Erde ist, sondern auch das Paradies
fuer jede Art von Dieben, Betrueger, Schwindler,
Spekulanten, Kriegsverbrecher,  Holocaust-Luegner
und auch Massenmoerder ist.

Grund genug fuer den oesterreichischen Bundeskanzler
Wolfgang Schuessel und Co. dieses dekadente Volk von
Ganoven und  Banditen und ihre menschenrechtswidrigen
Verbrechen (3 Millionen Semiten aus ihrer Heimat vertrieben,
hunderte Tote in wenigen Monaten) mit weiteren
Milliardenbetraegen zu finanzieren. Die Ausbeute
des von "Jahwe auserwaehlten Volk" fuer nur 12 Monate
Erpressung kann sich sehen lassen: 15 Mrd. AS die man
dem Volk und der Wirtschaft frech aus der Tasche stiehlt.

Sei's wie sei, Oesterreich ist nicht das einizige Opfer
dieser Parasiten, denn auch andere Laender werden von
diesen genetisch kaputten Blutegeln zu Kasse gebeten -
und von der Presse tunlichst verheimlicht.

Mit rund 100 Millionen US$ wird auch Frankreich zur
Kasse gebeten. Geld bekommen auch jene Nachkommen
und Kinder die nur GLAUBEN, dass ihrer Eltern ein Konto
bei einer Bank oder Versicherung hatten. Beweisen
muessen sie als Juden nichts.

Mit rund 4,4 Milliarden wird Deutschland zur Kasse
gebeten. Oder hat man das schon wieder vergessen?
Das inkludiert selbstverstaendlich nicht die laufenden
Geschenke wie zum Beispiel hochmoderne Atom U-Boote.
(damit die Israelis weltweit unbemerkt ihre Bio-Chemischen
voelkervernichtenden Waffen abfeuern koennen)

Und diese Summen inkludieren aber keine Sonderleistungen
wie  bezahlte Urlaubsreisen in Luxushotels, Schulen, Synagogen,
und die Pflege der juedischen Friedhoefe bzw.
"Holocaustdenkmaeler" (in Berlin alleine fast 500 und
weltweit werden es sicher bei 10.000 sein).

Und diese Liste des Horrors laesst sich fast endlos fortsetzen.
Nur von den Eskimos am Nordpol, den Buschnegern
Zentralafrikas oder den Kannibalen Borneos wurden
noch keine "Wiedergutmachungen" und "Entschuldigungen"
(spricht Kniefall und Fuesse kuessen) verlangt. Kein Land
der Welt kann heute mehr sicher sein, nicht in den Zangengriff
dieser beschnittenen Raubritter zu gelangen.

Man schaetzt, 300-400 Milliarden US$ an Mafia-Schutzgelder
wurden seit 1948 mit Hilfe der Holocaust-Keule
und Gaskammerschwindel an die Juden bezahlt. Und dieser
Betrag ist sicher nicht zu hoch gegriffen. Wieviele Milliarden
davon allerdings in den Aufbau und Erhalt des organisierten
Verbrechens geflossen sind, kann nur geschaetzt werden.



I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
I like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, PAMYAT, HAMAS or Aryan Nations,etc.

CALL late nights best, or even VISIT me:
Dr Laurence B. Shiff (Nazihunter)
327 Cortleigh Boulevard
Toronto, Ontario M5N 1R2 CA
Tel: 416-785-4574.

alternate

KASPU COM
2788 Bathurst St.
Toronto, Ontario m6b3a3 CA
Tel: 416-789-5691
(FAX) 416-789-5691
E-Mail: shiff@kaspu.com


My associate in the USA, who is like me, is:
Donald Ray Ellis
aka Pat Blakely/RevWhite/Mike Kalvatis/Rob Stewart ET AL
108 E. Victory Street
Star City, Arkansas 71667
Tel: (870) 628-1437
Email: voiceofreason@blakely.harrogate.net


Posted courtesy of : Paul Kneisel, who likes late
night discussions, even from Christian Identity,
Pamyat, Aryan Nations, Stormfront, HAMAS, etc.
I am together with McVay and L.Schiff,
regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers to his homosexuals escorts office:
1-250-616-9431
Or, VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?

http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg


Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to work:(780)492-0473


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the website for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
National Alliance - www.natvan.com
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natvan.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
is a revolutionary act."
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org


As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay. May he rot in hell.



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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:55:20 GMT, in can.politics "torresD"
 wrote:

GERMAN JEWISH COUNCIL PRESIDENT CHARLOTTE KNOBLOCH
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,434508,00.html
SPIEGEL ONLINE:

When you took office you said one of the main focuses of your work
would be the struggle against right-wing extremism.

Has the conflict in the Middle East worsened anti-Semitic
attitudes in Germany?

Knobloch: It has, unfortunately.

I see an absolutely hostile attitude towards Jews and Israel.

Signs that read "Israel -- Child Murderers" are being carried through the
streets at demonstrations here, for example.

The police don't confiscate these placards.

Persons that deal with the issue only marginally,
or not at all, are influenced negatively.

That's the basis of this hostile attitude.

You can find it everywhere.

We're currently organizing a fundraising concert, for example,
and even there we get negative, anti-Semitic mail.

No distinctions are made.

We're sucked into the current Middle East conflict one hundred percent,
as Jewish citizens in Germany.

And those politicians who latch onto this hostile mood with carefully
prepared statements are of course doing better than ever.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Who do you mean?

Knobloch:

Oskar Lafontaine, the leader of the Left Party, for example.

Left Party parliamentarians aren't particularly objective in their
evaluation of the catastrophe in the Middle East.

I'm also thinking of Heidemarie Wieczorek-Zeul, the Minister of Economic 
Aid and Development and member of the Social Democrat Party (SPD).

These people encourage the hostile mood against Jews.

I've never experienced anything quite like this.

It's on a new level.

This hostile mood is now more noticeable in the German public
than it used to be.

It's infiltrated every group and every level of society.

I hope this development can be reversed by a joint effort on
the part of all democratic forces.

Otherwise all the positive images I have about Germany would be put
into question.

I unpacked my suitcase in this country.
And I don't want to have to repack it.

Interview conducted by Sebastian Fischer and Claus Christian Malzahn.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
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Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.


~~



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These are the best pictures I can find of me, LOL...
Spouting Hot Air: http://tinyurl.com/apzwp

Isn't 'Ariadne' the literal for (female) "spawn of Satan?"
The "spawn" on her treadmill... http://tinyurl.com/qomwc

This is one from when she was up on a midnight run to the
refrigerator: 
http://tinyurl.com/rxum3

Arid-Asshole at a ladies only Sumo Swim-Meet in Sheffield:
http://tinyurl.com/p2zbq


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"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
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David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

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First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
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falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

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acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
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On Sun, 20 August 2006  08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by
Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!


>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch"  wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <1102789129.632939.294380@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Schorsch  wrote:
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...

>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!

>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting 
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still 
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the 
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all 
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest.......

>>>From: cmsahe@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800

>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"

>>>By Martin Brech

>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"

>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:

>>>"Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,'
>>>Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil",
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.

>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of
>>>the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.

>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.

>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.

>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)

>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.

>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.

>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.

>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.

>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.

>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.

>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense", and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>"Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any
>>>had been hit.

>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.

>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.

>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.

>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. "Yankee
>>>traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.

>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.

>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.

>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.

>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt a
>>>touch of spring.

>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)

>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).

>>>However, on this day we were happy.

>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice', and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>"Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.

>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.

>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow 'killing fields'.

>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers", selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>they deserved our treatment.

>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy Nazi
>>>medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him "off
>>>her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his "dirty work".

>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>away.

>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.

>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.

>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available", but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just friends"
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.

>>>I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".

>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.

>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301

>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?


>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...


Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/

He himself is some kind of "Holocaust Denier", when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn't mention any German suffering:
http://www.nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources "gassed millions of
Jews"?!


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just  to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!

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IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
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They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
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of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.



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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg 
wrote:

>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.

>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID  COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!

>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!

>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:

>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.

>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.


>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>>wrote:

>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>>                alone with your children?
>
>
>>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!
>
>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next "relocation"!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>
>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>> Herman
>
>First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me
>
>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>
>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)
>
>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>
>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>
>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant
>
>
>We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>
>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431
>
>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>should give an indication as to the why.
>
>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>
>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>
>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!!
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>
>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
>nights.
>
>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473
>
>And also:panPiotrGlownia - panPiotrGlownia@swipnet.se
>SINCE I LIKE TO RECEIVE LOTS OF EMAILS, FEEL FREE TO SUBSCRIBE ME TO
>ALL KINDS OF MAILLISTS, ESPECIALLY FOR SEX, AND HOMOSEXUALS.
>
>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com
>
>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!
>
>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
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>
>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>
>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>
>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>
>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.



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