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Subject: Re: 2 more Aussie Drug Traffickers to be Hanged - GOOD! Repost
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In Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia, all the garbage drug people get the same
treatment, no matter their colour.

All get the "long drop", which means they will no longer be a burden on
society.

They publicly advertise : DADAH MEANS DEATH at all points of entry, so that
the druggies know the penalty before entering the countries.


On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:33:33 +0800, "Agong Mat"  wrote:

>If these two unfortunate smuglers were white, it will be a different
>scaenario. The Oz PM, the GZ Governor and the Queen will all fight to save
>the white trash. So, you see, it alls boils down to racism! I just hope
>spmeday, some whute trash are caught in Malaysia and Singapore.

>"MattKern"  wrote in message
>news:coqt535rehksq4kqo904f0bumc1b13omao@4ax.com...
>> At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people,
>> such as drug dealers.
>>
>> They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
>> criminal will never re-offend!!
>>
>> Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the
>upkeep
>> in some pampering prison system!!
>>
>> If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow
>suit!!!
>> Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just
>arrested!!
>>
>>
>> On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking" 
>wrote:
>>
>> >AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>> >Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>> >this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>> >the streets of Sydney.
>>
>> >The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>> >drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>> >radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>> >doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.
>>
>> >But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>> >tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>> >raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>> >a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>> >opposes the death penalty worldwide.
>>
>> >Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>> >Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>> >to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>> >traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>> >executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.
>>
>> >It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>> >Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>> >December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>> >appeals for clemency.
>>
>> >It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>> >despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>> >there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>> >bodies or conceal it in their luggage.
>>
>> >Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>> >Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>> >and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>> >lethally injects traffickers.
>>
>> >Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>> >Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>> >information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>> >of couriers the trade calls "mules".
>>
>> >"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>> >drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>> >he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>> >the law of quick dollars."
>>
>> >The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>> >sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>> >already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>> >his own party room.
>>
>> >The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>> >February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>> >uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.
>>
>> >Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>> >remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>> >previous successful run and another aborted attempt.
>>
>> >This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>> >determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>> >and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>> >treaties.
>>
>> >"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>> >engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>> >them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>> >we will continue to operate within."
>>
>> >What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>> >over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>> >execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.
>>
>> >The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>> >was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>> >the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.
>>
>> >"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>> >citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.
>>
>> >Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>> >Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>> >illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.
>>
>> >While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>> >action.
>>
>> >The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>> >the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>> >Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>> >charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>> >do as it thought best until charges were laid.
>>
>> >By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>> >evidence had been gathered.
>>
>> >Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>> >drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>> >choose who it chooses to cooperate with."
>>
>> >International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>> >the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>> >Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>> >a decade.
>>
>> >Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>> >threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.
>>
>> >Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>> >penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>> >support of up to 80 per cent.
>>
>> >In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>> >that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>> >for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>> >die.
>>
>> >Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.
>>
>> >In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>> >Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>> >acts of terrorism.
>>
>> >Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>> >Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>> >said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>> >pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.
>>
>> >How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.
>>
>> >Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>> >out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>> >Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.
>>
>> >Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>> >inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>> >times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>> >shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.
>>
>> >It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>> >High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>> >Jakarta.
>>
>> >And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>> >grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>> >his mind.
>>
>> >Death penalty Australia's double dilemma
>> >
>> >18.02.06
>> >By Greg Ansley
>>
>



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Subject: Re: Books in Canada STILL a ripoff! You Get JEWED!
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On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:03:55 -0700, "DetectorTHX11:59:01"  wrote:
>Leftists = traitors  wrote in message
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>> $37.00 for a book that costs $24.99 U.S.  Our dollars are within 10% of
>> each other.
>> Book prices haven't changed since our dollar was worth $0.63 U.S.  Of
>> course, we KNOW who owns Chapters-Indigo and they dictate to the publishers.
>> Their excuse that "you can't tool up that fast" as to why they can't
>> re-price books falls on deaf ears.  It does NOT take YEARS to rectify prices. F--- The Reitmans and
>> their cabal.

>They are part of Israhells fifth column in Canada, and are intertwined with
>the globalist Bilderberg gangsters.  They should be watched in case they are
>involved in any Mossad activities like stealing Canadian passports and
>spying.  They could be sending and recieving more than books.

And the ZYDS wonder why Canadians resent being JEWED, as per dictionary
definition!!



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Subject: Re: Selling house through COMFREE, is it a good idea? YES - Far Better than Parasite Realtors!! - Repost
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Notice that since the media gave the story great coverage, on TV and in
newspapers, the real estate parasites have suddenly become silent.

Guess they finally realised that they were giving the great services of
COMFREE lots of free publicity, which would further lesson their ripoff
commissions!!


On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:34:15 GMT, DaleNorton
 wrote:

>On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:21:25 GMT, "Bernie" 
>wrote:

>>I bought my current house thru welist last june.   I found it the day it was 
>>listed, as I checked every day.  It was a low down assumable, no qualifying. 
>>I picked it up for $10K...price was $219K in Queensland..a detachted 
>>bungalow.  I'm sure it's over $300K now.  My payments are $600 bi weekly, 
>>and I thought at the time that was alot...boy if I had to buy a house now 
>>I'd be SOL.

>>Aren't welist and comfree the same type of thing?

>>I was working with a couple of real estate parasites who knew of my 
>>challenging circumstances...divorce, bankruptcy....do you think those 
>>fuckers gave a rats ass about finding a house for me and my children???  If 
>>I didn't do my homework myself, I'd be fucking homeless, or living in that 
>>disgusting rental I was in.

>>My boyfriend hired a family 'friend' to list his parents house (he takes 
>>care of his elderly parents) in cranston...that fucking c*nt didn't do 
>>shit...just sat there and told them to lower the price when the house didn't 
>>move.  His mom lost out on $16K in parasite fees for nothing.  It made me 
>>crazy at the time....and it wasn't even my house.  Even for elderly, 
>>disabled people on a very fixed income, those fucking parasites won't lower 
>>their commissions....not even for supposed 'friends'.  Real Eastate 
>>parasites don't know the meaning of the word friend. Or the word giving or 
>>compassion.   All they care about is money money money.   As soon as I find 
>>out someone is an agent...I really just don't even want to communicate with 
>>them at all.  They are worse than loan sharks, used car salesmen, and 
>>lawyers.

>Further to your comments about the f**ing parasites, even though it is
>illegal to have price-fixing in real estate, the SOB realtors refuse
>to work for less than MLS max ripoff rates!!

>Avoid real estate scammers, and use a competitor, such as COMFREE, for
>a few hundred dollars, and as the Dutch guy says:
>SAVE YOUR MONEY - $10,000 to $25,000!
>>Long live welist and comfree.
>>Bernie

>>"Jules Striker"  wrote in message 
>>news:6p4me25rnchl9kdiohbjfab2d36o39peoi@4ax.com...
>>> With all the extra free TV publicity, the sales through COMFREE should
>>> really increase, while MLS sales should plummet.

>>> Let the realtors starve, the damn parasites!

>>> On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:03:36 GMT, "Bernie" 
>>> wrote:

>>>>Amen brother.

>>>>"Jules Striker"  wrote in message
>>>>news:c62he2d0brsbjdrecadl2a8ees9jpivh7k@4ax.com...
>>>>> Now that so many realtors are starving, because sensible home sellers
>>>>> have switched to using reasonably priced Comfree, they have filed a
>>>>> lawsuit against Comfree, and the Edmonton Journal gave it front page
>>>>> headline prominence.

>>>>> This is giving Comfree even more free publicity, which will result in
>>>>> even fewer sales by the parasitic realtors.

>>>>> In the current real estate market, where homes are sold in a matter of
>>>>> hours or  days, only an idiot would use a parasitic real estate agent.

>>>>> Firms such as Comfree not only save the seller from $16,000 to $20,000
>>>>> cash, or more, which stays in the seller's pocket, instead of the realtors.

>>>>> Comfree also provides a great set of instructions and guides on how to
>>>>> sell the house, as well as what to do regarding legal,etc.

>>>>> If the person actually owned the house, he should have enough smarts
>>>>> to read and understand the simple instructions from Comfree, thereby
>>>>> saving all the money, for himself.

>>>>> I have yet to find a real estate agent parasite worth the bullet to
>>>>> get rid of him. All the leeches want is a listing, and then you never
>>>>> see him again. He expects some hungrier parasite to sell the property,
>>>>> and he then splits the commission, for doing nothing.

>>>>> Use Comfree, and save all that money, for yourself!
>>>>> Did you see this article?
>>>>> http://www.businessedge.ca/article.cfm/newsID/10851.cfm


>>>>> On 4 Aug 2006 07:03:40 -0700, insomniac_cam@yahoo.com wrote:

>>>>>>Huh? As a seller, I'd show you the house, give you and information on
>>>>>>what needs to be fixed....what I recently fixed and that's it.

>>>>>>I don't like making realestate (or any sale for that matter)
>>>>>>personal... if I'm selling its because the house probably needs more
>>>>>>work than I want to invest in it and I'm not going to have coffee with
>>>>>>you to discuss its 'thermal efficiencies'.... egads.

>>>>>>You either like what you see or you don't.... I absoluetly can't stand
>>>>>>people who hum and haw over the price if we both know its priced
>>>>>>fair... don't waste my time. Maybe thats why I've never tried
>>>>>>comfree..... and me and the wife both hate having someone follow us
>>>>>>around... as much as I appreciate the information from the seller, we
>>>>>>want to look at things and take time to notice any problems.

>>>>>>And if the house is a lemon and the seller knows it...unless he's a
>>>>>>retard he's hardly going to come out and tell you that... Caveat
>>>>>>Emptor. Remember he's trying to sell the house for the most he can get.
>>>>>>If you told me $10 to admission to come look at your house my wife
>>>>>>would kick you in the nuts and tell you youre crazy :)


>>>>>>tatarewicz wrote:
>>>>>>> As a buyer my preference would be to buy directly from the owner and
>>>>>>> find out everything he knows about the house, what needs to be done to
>>>>>>> improve thermal efficiency, etc., instead of trying to figure out what
>>>>>>> the problem is (which often takes twice as long as to fix it). If
>>>>>>> heavy rainfalls have caused some problem in the past, you might start
>>>>>>> on preventative measures as soon as you can rather than have these
>>>>>>> demonstrated to you in the future with associated damage. An owner has
>>>>>>> probably given some thought to various improvements, looked into 
>>>>>>> costs, merits etc. You can benefit from the research he's done; you won't get
>>>>>>> any of this information through real estate agents; they don't want 
>>>>>>> the owner around when showing the house. If the house is a lemon the owner
>>>>>>> might have good reason to stay out of sight.  If I were selling the
>>>>>>> house I'd charge ten dollars an hour for showing it, explaining 
>>>>>>> things, etc., (over and above info in data sheet) to discourage non-serious
>>>>>>> tirekickers.  Tatarewicz




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Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was 
on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!

Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!

Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammer, deserves to get swindled.


On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
 wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
> wrote:

>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!

>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck on some
>junior staffer?

>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>he is respondible?

>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>to make up for his negligence?



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Subject: Re: ENOCH CASINO & DEVELOPMENT-Open =KISS OF DEATH FOR WEM!! Hooray!! More
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The Edmonton Journal had several pages of news in the paper for Friday 27
October 2006, promoting the suberb facility at Enoch.

Now the flunkies at WEM are complaining that smoking is allowed at Enoch,
which is an independent NATION, while at WEM smoking is not allowed, so 
their customers are flooding to Enoch.

Further, Enoch have a shuttle bus service, from across the road at WEM on
87 Avenue, taking WEM customers, for FREE, to Enoch!!

Then to add insult to insury, the Journal had a banner headline story about
INSANITARY CONDITIONS AT WEM WATERPARK!!
No wonder people get sick there, with fecal contamination and worse!!

And do not forget the supersize COCKROACHES near the food stalls at WEM!!

With the strike of workers at the WEM casino now going into month 10, with
massive financial losses, the success of the River Cree casino is assured.


On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:30:34 -0500, "Nomad"  wrote:
>"GourdMcVay"  wrote in message
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>> On 7 September 2006, the Edmonton Journal again did a banner headline
>> feature on the coming opening next month of the Enoch Cree Casino and hotel
>> development.

>> It  OPENED TODAY , putting more pressure on the dying West
>> Edmonton Mall.

>> At the same time, media are reporting that the casino at West Edmonton
>> Mall is having a strike of employees. If it lasts for a few more weeks, all
>> their customers will be flooding into the new Enoch Casino, a few blocks away.

>> The operators of the WEM Casino admit they are losing 45% of their
>> business, so far, due to the strike. With Enoch opening, they will probably go under
>> at WEM.

>> To add insult to injury, while the WEM casino prohibits smoking, at Enoch
>> smokers are welcome!!

>...yep, and another case where the white man gets screwed!   Aaaaaa equality
>at it's best.

What a load of horse puckey!!

The Enoch Band paid out all their oil and gas revenues, not from white man
taxes!!

They have a first-class facility there, much better than the WEM dump!!



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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 18:52:07 -0500, "Nomad"  wrote:

>

>...so they've got a nice venue...so what, THAT's not the argument here...in 
>the event you've slept during this thread...the equality of the law is 
>what's in question here...

The ENOCH NATION is a separate legal NATION, and does not need to follow the
insanely stupid laws of communist Deadmonton!!

And wil the Permanently Constipated party of Oilberta proposing to bar smoking
throughout the province, more gamlers will decide to spend their money where
they are welcomed, and allowed to smoke!!


>"GordChartrand"  wrote in message 
>news:6i94k29vocj7o3knbggj5epkncjk41312q@4ax.com...
>> The Edmonton Journal had several pages of news in the paper for Friday 27
>> October 2006, promoting the suberb facility at Enoch.

>> Now the flunkies at WEM are complaining that smoking is allowed at Enoch,
>> which is an independent NATION, while at WEM smoking is not allowed, so 
>> their customers are flooding to Enoch.

>> Further, Enoch have a shuttle bus service, from across the road at WEM on 
>> 87 Avenue, taking WEM customers, for FREE, to Enoch!!

>> Then to add insult to insury, the Journal had a banner headline story 
>> about INSANITARY CONDITIONS AT WEM WATERPARK!!
>> No wonder people get sick there, with fecal contamination and worse!!

>> On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:30:34 -0500, "Nomad"  
>> wrote:
>>>"GourdMcVay"  wrote in message
>>>news:mpenj2hmvj0pmba902q6b76jffk5a6dvtm@4ax.com...
>>>> On 7 September 2006, the Edmonton Journal again did a banner headline
>>>> feature on the coming opening next month of the Enoch Cree Casino and 
>>>> hotel development.

>>>> It  OPENED TODAY , putting more pressure on the dying West
>>>> Edmonton Mall.

>>>> At the same time, media are reporting that the casino at West Edmonton
>>>> Mall is having a strike of employees. If it lasts for a few more weeks, 
>>>> all their customers will be flooding into the new Enoch Casino, a few blocks 
>>>> away.

>>>> The operators of the WEM Casino admit they are losing 45% of their
>>>> business, so far, due to the strike. With Enoch opening, they will 
>>>> probably go under at WEM.

>>>> To add insult to injury, while the WEM casino prohibits smoking, at 
>>>> Enoch smokers are welcome!!

>>>...yep, and another case where the white man gets screwed!   Aaaaaa equality
>>>at it's best.

>> What a load of horse puckey!!

>> The Enoch Band paid out all their oil and gas revenues, not from white man
>> taxes!!

>> They have a first-class facility there, much better than the WEM dump!!

Plus they believe in choice - re smoking - something Dumb Dave Hancock
doesn't support. Come the next election, he is history!



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On 27 Aug 2006 10:53:01 -0700, in can.politics "Leftists = traitors"
 wrote:

Yes, in the latest bit of irony, the Jews prove once again they are at
the vanguard of censorship and supression of free speech in the 
Western world.

http://www.cjc.ca/template.php?action=itn&Story=1889

Aug 22, 2006 - CBC.CA News
A racist website that shut down Sunday night after a complaint to the
Canadian Human Rights Commission returned to the internet less than 
a day later in a more vitriolic form.

The site, called "Dossier Noir," was originally based in Quebec and
targeted black Canadians, calling them criminals.

http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/homicide/wanted.php

In its new form, the site contains anti-Semitic content.

The man who now runs it, a U.S. neo-Nazi named Bill White, put the 
name and address of a Canadian human rights lawyer Richard Warman, 
who fights against hate, on the website.

The Canadian Jewish Congress has been hoping to see White silenced for
years, but he has been protected by U.S. free-speech laws.

The CJC said White is clearly counselling violence and they hope U.S.
authorities will finally arrest him.

Earlier this month, the Centre for Research-Action on Race Relations
filed a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission about the
website, which published the addresses of a group of men accused in
connection with an alleged gang rape.



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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 04:26:45 GMT, in alt.revisionism "abc" 
wrote:

"Within five minutes, any intelligent, open-minded person can be convinced 
that the Holocaust gassings of World War II are a profitable hoax.

Fred A. Leuchter is America's leading specialist on the design and 
fabrication of execution equipment, including homicidal gas chambers. In 
1988, Leuchter scraped samples from the alleged gas chamber walls in 
Auschwitz, Birkenau and Lublin. Cyanide residue would be clearly evident on 
all these walls if gassings did occur. To his astonishment, Leuchter found 
no significant cyanide traces in any one of these rooms.

In 1991, the Polish government repeated these tests to disprove Leuchter's 
findings, but they as well found no evidence of any gassings ever occurring.

The structural integrity of these "gas chambers" is also extremely faulty. 
These rooms have ordinary doors and windows which are not hermetically 
sealed! There are large gaps between the floors and doors. If the Germans 
had attempted to gas anyone in these rooms, they would have died themselves, 
as the gas would have leaked and contaminated the entire area. Also, no 
equipment exists to exhaust the air-gas mixture from these buildings. 
Nothing was made to introduce or distribute the gas throughout the chambers. 
There are no provisions to prevent condensation of gas on the walls, floors 
or ceilings. No exhaust stacks have ever existed.

Though six million Jews supposedly died in the gas chambers, not one body 
has ever been autopsied and found to have died of gas poisoning. We have 
been shown piles of bodies from World War II, but most of these persons died 
of typhus or starvation or Allied bombings and a great many of those were 
murdered Germans, not Jews. Roughly the equivalent of ten football fields 
should be packed full of gassed bodies to present as evidence, yet not one 
body has ever been discovered.

The Germans documented everything in meticulous detail from shrubbery to 
arbors, but no pre-war or wartime plans or documents exist that detail or 
even mention any gas chambers for reasons of genocide. All documents ever 
presented were drawn up AFTER the war.

Even if we threw away all the evidence and accounted for every so-called gas 
chamber, it would have taken 68 YEARS to accomplish gassing six million 
Jews!

Even The Diary of Anne Frank is a hoax. Portions of the diary were written 
with a ball point pen. These pens were not in use at the time Anne Frank 
lived.

It is not denied concentration camps existed. Tragically, many died of 
typhus or starvation, as often happens in such situations. There is, 
however, no evidence that any gassings occurred for the reasons of genocide.

Israel continues to receive trillions of dollars worldwide as retribution 
for Holocaust gassings. Our country has donated more money to Israel than to 
any other country in the history of the world -- over $35 billion per year, 
everything included. If not for our extravagantly generous gifts to Israel, 
every family in America could afford a brand new Mercedes Benz. Surely the 
American people would be outraged if they realized their hard-earned money 
is being squandered in these difficult times.

With all this money at stake for Israel, it is easy to comprehend why this 
Holocaust hoax is so secretly guarded. The Jewish name for Holocaust is 
"Shoah." In Zionist circles, it is known as "Shoah Business." If nothing 
else, this unbelievable coverup demonstrates the irrepressible Zionist 
influence and control of our country. Their only defense against the facts 
is to cry out "antisemitic," "Skinhead" or "Nazi," whereas the majority of 
those who question the Holocaust are ordinary citizens...though you would 
never know it from the media.

In whatever way you can, please help shatter this profitable myth. It is 
time we stop sacrificing America's welfare for the sake of Israel and spend 
our hard-earned dollars on Americans.

(For more information contact The Institute for Historical Review P.O. Box 
2739 Newport Beach, CA 92659 USA).

There are compelling reasons to believe that the so-called holocaust never 
existed. Page 223, in The Diary of Anne Frank, (Pan Horizons edition, Pan 
Books Ltd., London, 1989), indicates that the size of Auschwitz, the most 
notorious of all German work camps, WAS VERY SMALL, with only 11,000 people 
(many of whom may not even have been Jews) being evacuated by the Germans at 
the time of the Russian advance in 1945. Certainly, compared to Spielberg's 
film, Schindler's List (which Emilie Schindler, Oskar's widow, said was full 
of lies), and other Jewish propaganda, that millions upon millions of Jews 
were systematically exterminated, 11,000 people is a very small number. 
Simple arithmetic tells us that the Germans would have had to have had 
hundreds of camps, or else they would have had to exterminate 137 people PER 
HOUR, in order for six million Jews to have been exterminated at such small 
camps as Auschwitz, a feat that would have been humanly impossible 
considering that, according to Douglas Reed's Behind the Scene and The 
Controversy of Zion, a mere 850,000 soldiers and others were killed by the 
entire German and Japanese war machines combined during WW2 (see p.397-400 
of Douglas Reed's book Controversy of Zion). People who would believe the 
Jewish propaganda that six million Jews were exterminated by Hitler must 
KEEP IN MIND THE SMALL SCALE CONSTRUCTION OF AUSCHWITZ AND THE VERY FEW 
OTHER GERMAN WORK CAMPS THAT EXISTED DURING WW2.
On July 13, 1994, a documentary on the life of Charles A. Lindbergh 
broadcast on the Public Broadcast System (PBS - KENW-TV) said that when 
Lindbergh visited one of these few camps in Germany following WW2, he was 
told that 25,000 died in 1-1/2 years. Again, simple arithmetic tells us that 
25,000 times a half dozen camps does not equal 6,000,000. In fact, it 
doesn't even equal 600,000. . . .

It is an interesting fact that the number of so-called persecuted Jews KEEPS 
INCREASING. Hal Greenwald, program director for the Hillel Foundation at 
Duke University, a Jewish student group, has been promoting the idea that 
NINE MILLION JEWS WERE EXTERMINATED IN HITLER'S GAS CHAMBERS (New York 
Times, Nov. 9, 1991, AP). NOW IT'S 9 MILLION AND GROWING. ..JUST LIKE OUR 
DEBT/TAX MONEY SUPPLY...THE NUMBERS JUST KEEP COMING OUT OF THIN AIR. . 
.(The Bible Caused Economic and Financial Slavery in the New World Order by 
Lee Cheney)".



Read the entire article online in depth:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm




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At least some countries know what to do with the human garbage involved with
drugs!

Malaysia,Singapore,  Indonesia and Saudi Arabia know that an executed criminal
will never re-offend.

Pity that the UK, Canada and the US still have not learned this!


On Wed, 30 May 2007 00:49:01 +1000, BernardZ  wrote:

>Alex the death penalty still exists in Saudi Arabia

>http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?
>xfile=data/middleeast/2007/May/middleeast_May217.xml§ion=middleeast&
>col=


>RIYADH - A Saudi convicted of murder and two Pakistanis found guilty of 
>drug trafficking were beheaded by the sword on Sunday, the interior 
>ministry said.

>Mufreh bin Ahmad al-Missbali Assiri stabbed to death Abdullah bin 
>Mohammed al-Mudhlim Assiri after an argument, the ministry said in a 
>statement carried by the state news agency SPA.

>He was executed in the southwestern region of Assir.

>The two Pakistani men were beheaded in the Red Sea city of Jeddah for 
>drug trafficking, the ministry said in a separate statement.

>Nasser Khan and Abdulrasheed Musharaf were caught trying to smuggle 
>undisclosed amounts of heroin hidden in their stomachs into the kingdom, 
>the ministry said.

>The beheadings brought to 66 the number of executions announced by the 
>Saudi authorities this year.

>At least 37 people were executed in 2006, while 83 were put to death in 
>2005 and 35 the year before, according to AFP tallies based on official 
>statements.

>Executions are usually carried out in public in Saudi Arabia, which 
>applies a strict form of sharia, or Islamic law. Rape, murder, apostasy, 
>armed robbery and drug trafficking can all carry the death penalty.



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Subject: McVay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal Engaged in MONEY LAUNDERING & RICO - Repost
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:55:06 -0700, in can.general Frank Arthur
 wrote:

Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING!
Proof!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering
activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
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http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
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Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
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Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
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Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant



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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, "Venceremos"  wrote:

>The Accusations

>     Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>     Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
>     British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
>     escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
>     February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

>     I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
>     I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
>     deeds of the war.

>     While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still
>     on my arm

>     Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
>     uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

>     Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

>     Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>     little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>     when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>     (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

>     These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>     published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>     "I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
>     commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
>     in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
>     future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
>     directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>     political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>     authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

>     This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>     lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
>     Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
>     collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>     hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
>     Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
>     camps, the price...was not too high for me.

>     "...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
>     Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
>     While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
>     another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
>     with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>     he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>     "Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
>     a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

>     "As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
>     between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
>     immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>     would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>     blood to achieve his political goal...
>     'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
>     this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
>     service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
>     would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>     concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>     That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
>     (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

>     Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
>     do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
>     money and military equipment."

>     Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>     According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
>     When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
>     citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
>     Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
>     views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>     official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
>     Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
>     of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>     -88-

KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER, 
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi 
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer  wrote:

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest.......

>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12

>The Kastner Case
>-----------------

>Introduction

>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question 'The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.

>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.

>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>----------------
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>------------
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another."
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher'.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements." (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>-------------
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense." (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>
>"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose." (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma'ariv*:
>
>"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>rehabilitated'.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>-------------------------
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view...
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>--------------------------
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others....
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.'
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc - and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith...
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>-----------
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the 'dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships'.
>
>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, 'now dead'. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Elias Davidsson - Oldugata 50 - 101 Reykjavik - Iceland
>Tel. (354)-552-6444     Fax: (354)-552-6579
>Email: edavid@itn.is     URL:  http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid


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then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


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yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
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a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
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background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
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I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
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work:(780)492-0473

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As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
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May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur
or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.





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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:12:32 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:34:52 GMT, Carter ,  in wrote:
>>Jeff Rainer wrote:

>>>> Have seen nothing in any of the above which changes my basic premise,
>>>> i.e. if a sentence of "life" really meant life it would take killers
>>>> away from preying on society while also guarding against their being
>>>> executed if later evidence found them to be innocent. DP should remain
>>>> for those who kill police officers or prison guards.

>>> Why is the life of a cop or prison guard more valuable than the life of 
>>> another citizen?

>>It has nothing to do with the value of life.  It recognizes that 
>>to kill someone in authority is a more serious offence than to 
>>kill someone who has no authority over the killer.

>>Carter

Cops do NOT deserve special consideration, any more than do any 
other humans killed.

Killers of cops deserve the DP, the same as do crooked politicians, 
drug dealers, AIDS-spreaderes and similar vermin!!

Go back to law of Hamurabi - an eye for an eye!



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On 1 Sep 2006 02:12:02 -0700, in can.politics "auldbobpeffers@aol.com"
 wrote:

Canada government slips in key battleground: poll

OTTAWA (Reuters) - The decision by Canada's minority Conservative
government to take a strongly pro-Israel stance is costing the party
support in the influential French-speaking province of Quebec,
according to a poll published on Thursday.

A CROP survey for La Presse newspaper put support for the federal
Conservatives at 24 percent, down from 33 percent from the firm's last
poll in late June. The separatist Bloc Quebecois was at 36 percent, up
six points.

The poll -- the latest in a line of surveys showing lackluster support
for the Conservative government -- is likely to dent speculation of a
possible election later this year.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Conservatives control only 125 of the
308 seats in Parliament and need to boost support in Quebec if he is to
stand any chance of winning a majority in the next election. The
Conservatives won 10 of Quebec's 75 seats in the January 23 vote.

CROP vice-president Claude Gauthier said it was clear that people in
Quebec -- one of the more left-leaning provinces -- disliked Harper's
backing for Israeli attacks against Lebanon.

As well, many were outraged when eight members of a Montreal family on
holiday in Lebanon were killed by an Israeli bombardment.

"Quebecers blame the Conservatives for giving almost unconditional
support to one side from the very beginning," Gauthier told the
newspaper. Harper said at the start of the assault that the Israeli
response was measured.

"Quebecers saw that as a lack of compassion, given what was happening
to Lebanese civilians," said Gauthier, adding that some people had also
been upset by recent big military spending announcements and Harper's
decision to skip a major        AIDS conference in Toronto earlier this
month.

The opposition Liberals -- who lost the election amid a Quebec kickback
scandal -- rose four points to 21 percent.

Many political observers doubt Harper will call an election unless
national support for the party hits 40 percent. The Conservatives are
currently hovering around 36 percent, the same level they achieved in
the January election.

Separately, CROP said support for Quebec's provincial Liberal
government was unchanged at 32 percent while the separatist Parti
Quebecois gained two points to 37 percent.

Quebec Premier Jean Charest, who won power in 2003, is expected to call
an election within the next year. Gauthier said the Liberals would need
to be at least five points ahead of the Parti Quebecois to stand a
chance of retaining power.

The Parti Quebecois says that if it wins the next election, it will
quickly hold another referendum on independence. Similar province-wide
polls failed in 1980 and 1995.

The CROP poll of 1,000 people was carried out from August 17 to 28 and
is considered accurate to within three percentage points, 19 times out
of 20.



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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:14:14 -0700, VicRCurious@hotmail.com wrote:

Not only in Canada are the Russian ZYD Mafia making false claims as
alleged "REFUGEES" from israel, just so they can jump the queue for
immigration, as well as being parasites on the taxpayers of the host
countries!!

Just ask taxpayers in Australia and New Zealand about their Israelis!


>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:36:26 -0700, Frank Arthur 
>wrote:
>
>>In a banner headline story on the front page of the issue of Canadian
>>Jew News for January 18 2007, is a huge story detailing how Israelis
>>are filing fraudulent claims as "REFUGEES", to jump the immigration
>>queues, and get into Canada.
>>
>>Even the Embassy in Canada for Israel is enraged about these false
>>claims, usually made by people who emigrated to Israel from the former
>>Soviet Union. They state categorically that these claims are
>>spurious!!
>>
>>The Israeli newspaper Ha'Aretz had a feature story in their issue for
>>31 December 2006. The article claimed that in year 2005 there were 679
>>claims as refugees made by these criminals, with many of these false
>>claims made to Canadian authorities.
>>
>>Canadian Jew News claims that 369 claims were made by Israelis
>>claiming refugee status in the 9 months from January to September 2006
>>alone!!
>>
>>The crooked Canadian Refugee people allowed 91 of these criminals to
>>stay in Canada at taxpayer expense!! In fact Israel has made the top
>>10 list of source countries for people claiming refugee status in the
>>first 3 quarters of 2006!!
>>
>>In fact, since 2000, almost 3,000 Israelis have claimed refugee
>>status, so that they can stay in Canada and live off Canadian
>>taxpayers with their fraudulent claims.



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The death penalty will also apply to female druggies, since they do not
discriminate based on sex.

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 12:26:14 -0400, "Paris Hilton" 
wrote:

>All backwards, ignorant societies, to be sure.

>Why don't you expound on how wonderfully the aforementioned 4 countries 
>treat their women?

>"MattKern"  wrote in message 
>news:po2363d8tmo9g0rscp7hbpusm23m5l5ai0@4ax.com...
>> At least some countries know what to do with the human garbage involved 
>> with drugs!
>>
>> Malaysia,Singapore,  Indonesia and Saudi Arabia know that an executed 
>> criminal
>> will never re-offend.
>>
>> Pity that the UK, Canada and the US still have not learned this!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 00:49:01 +1000, BernardZ  
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Alex the death penalty still exists in Saudi Arabia
>>
>>>http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?
>>>xfile=data/middleeast/2007/May/middleeast_May217.xml§ion=middleeast&
>>>col=
>>
>>
>>>RIYADH - A Saudi convicted of murder and two Pakistanis found guilty of
>>>drug trafficking were beheaded by the sword on Sunday, the interior
>>>ministry said.
>>
>>>Mufreh bin Ahmad al-Missbali Assiri stabbed to death Abdullah bin
>>>Mohammed al-Mudhlim Assiri after an argument, the ministry said in a
>>>statement carried by the state news agency SPA.
>>
>>>He was executed in the southwestern region of Assir.
>>
>>>The two Pakistani men were beheaded in the Red Sea city of Jeddah for
>>>drug trafficking, the ministry said in a separate statement.
>>
>>>Nasser Khan and Abdulrasheed Musharaf were caught trying to smuggle
>>>undisclosed amounts of heroin hidden in their stomachs into the kingdom,
>>>the ministry said.
>>
>>>The beheadings brought to 66 the number of executions announced by the
>>>Saudi authorities this year.
>>
>>>At least 37 people were executed in 2006, while 83 were put to death in
>>>2005 and 35 the year before, according to AFP tallies based on official
>>>statements.
>>
>>>Executions are usually carried out in public in Saudi Arabia, which
>>>applies a strict form of sharia, or Islamic law. Rape, murder, apostasy,
>>>armed robbery and drug trafficking can all carry the death penalty.
>> 
>



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Isn't Black the anglicized version of Schwarz?

And do not forget Black married that well known jew woman Barbara Amiel.

On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:05:27 -0700, Leftists = traitors 
wrote:

>Is Conrad Black Jewish?
>I kind of wonder, because his partner is, Radler.  If not, it's no
>surprise.  Black is likely going to jail, meanwhile Radler basically
>serves no time and walks free. 

> Another one of them, equally or more guilty than Black of absconding 
>with company money (who won't spend 1 day in jail) is Canada's 
>Garth Drabinsky a Jew and his partner, another Jew. 
>In Canada, it is near impossible to ever convict one of
>them of a crime.

And never forget the $1,500 MILLION SCAM BY THE BRONFMANs 
on the Canadian Tax department!

>from Wikipedia:
>Mr. Drabinsky, and his partner, Myron Gottlieb, were indicted in New
>York, New York on charges of accounting fraud. Drabinsky and Gottlieb
>failed to appear for trial and are now under fugitive arrest warrants
>in the United States. Furthermore, in October 2002, the Royal Canadian
>Mounted Police charged Mr. Drabinsky and three other former Livent
>senior executives with fraud affecting the public market. These
>charges were laid under Section 380 (1)(a) of the Criminal Code of
>Canada; police allege that the accused defrauded creditors and private
>and public investors of approximately one-half a billion dollars
>between December 14, 1989, and June 23, 1998, allegedly by falsifying
>the corporate financial statements of Livent Inc. and therefore
>misrepresenting the financial health of the company.



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To see a video about the KOSHER TAX, go to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWn--jlRVAI&mode=related&search=

Thanks for posting this nice little introduction to the KosherNostra,
Tommy.

The Kosher industry is a fungus that has penetrated into every level of
US foods production, to the point that, even if you dig around 'til
you find a brand that *doesn't* bear the mark of the Kosher Beast,
most of the ingredients were still likely certified at some level, so
the Kashrus Khazars are still probably getting a cut.

The film indicates that a portion of the monies extracted from the
sleeping Gentiles in the Kosher racket goes to "support Israel"
(read OPPRESS PALESTINIANS), and this is almost undoubtedly the case.
The OU (Orthodox Union) is the Big Nose in the US Kash-R-Us market, and
they kick massive amounts of cash to support Zionist "causes" in
the Jewish State.

If the Khazars want to eat Kosher from a can, that's fine by me. But
let them pay for their own fetishes - pass around the plat at the ol'
synagogue. But it'd better be a damn BIG plate, as the film indicated
that they'd need to raise about 6 billion a year to replace the
monies that the Goyim currently unwittingly subsidize them.

One final note: As the film mentioned, some companies are now beginning
to balk - disbelieving the lies told them by the Kosher Racketeers, and
dumping certification.  Others are trying to get the best of both
worlds - for instance, right now I'm eating Planters Dry Roasted
Peanuts. On the package is a simple letter "K". It's not a
enclosed in a circle or a triangle, not enmeshed ins some fancy
pattern, just a simple "K" located approximately where an
"official" Kosher Symbol - owned by the racketeers- would be
placed.

This means that the company is self-regulating, and is NOT playing the
Kosher Racketeers game - OR paying them.    0:-(>

This is the company's way of telling the Kash-R-US Rabbis to take a
flying leap - as the Jews can't copyright the letter "K", (and
this drives these Food Nazis mad). Of course, Kosher Keeping Jew would
never buy the product because they know better - but the  "Kosher is
Better" Gentile consumer - those who have been duped into believing
that the Kosher seal somehow translates to mean a "better" product
(it doesn't - EVER) will never know the difference, and will buy it
anyway.


The shitty part for the Rabbinical Racketeers is that they CAN'T try
to educate the Gentile public on this matter - if they do, the jig'll
be up, and they'll soon be paying for their own picnic.  0:-(>


Will Planters (or Tabasco, etc) miss the Kosher Jewish market? Hell no!
Jews make up only about 2% of the US population, and only about 10% of
those are serious about keeping Kosher on a daily basis. To paraphrase
the ADL's article: The profit that companies make by selling mainline
products to Kosher Keeping Jews is SO low that "we can't even
calculate it".
**
Waldo
Observer at Large



Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!

When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the 
KOSHER TAX, who is more believable, them or liars such as you?

 Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
$30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!


On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:43:26 -0400, "zr"  wrote:

>You've got so much crap you should bottle it.
>Heinz & Libby both still have "cor" on their products. Just look on the back 
>of a bottle of Ketchup dimwit!
>Here is also another fact for you "herr grubber" the Heiress to the Heinz 
>fortune is a Jewess married to a Jew John F Kerry. You know the one, he ran 
>for President of the USA.
>Never mind Das Boat you get Das Boot imbecile.
>
>"Joe Bruno"  wrote in message 
>news:esbp729g8oqmc6h0b6hbodfj50rlfqgaa5@4ax.com...
>> Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!

>> When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the 
>> KOSHER TAX, who is more beleivable, them or liars such as you?

>> Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
>> $30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!

>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!

>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:53:33 -0500, "zr"  wrote:
>>
>>>Pure Bullshit!
>>>Next you'll be telling everyone Hallal foods are a rip off. Then Cereal, 
>>>and
>>>baby food.
>>>How about dog food.
>>>Isn't that what you white trash racists eat.
>>
>>>"Jules Streiker"  wrote in message
>>>news:ps7lt11vqd26jm3sc17tvahpierd7qhtha@4ax.com...
>>>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>>>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>>>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!
>>>>
>>>> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
>>>> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
>>>> part-time job!!
>>>>
>>>> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
>>>> extortion tax!!
>>>>
>>>> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>>>> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>>>> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>>>> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
>>>> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>>>> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>>>> qualified to do...
>>>>
>>>> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>>>> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>>>> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!
>>>>
>>>>>From: norma2339@charter.net
>>>>>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>>>>>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>>>>>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>>>>>"veranda"  wrote in message
>>>>>news:...
>>>>>> > >     veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since 
>>>>>> > > it
>>>>>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>>>>>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .
>>>>>> > >     The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>>>>>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost
>>>>
>>>>>>  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:9abc4e06.0304010305.50dc870e@posting.google.com...
>>>>>> > What duplication?  It is a symbol on the container and the cost 
>>>>>> > would
>>>>>> > not change in any way.  This "paranoia" is silly.
>>>>
>>>>>veranda : what 'paranoia' ?? we are talking about saving money .
>>>>>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>>>>>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>>>>>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>>>>>you knew that !
>>>>>Kosher is Israel's food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>>>>>we got our own  !  :)
>>>>
>>>>>Well, to set the record straight.  The Rabbinate council that approves
>>>>>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>>>>>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>>>>>doesn't really care.  It is not an item by item thing.  With the
>>>>>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>>>>>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>>>>>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>>>>>day.)
>>>>
>>>>>What would it save you--less than $10 a year.
>>>>
>>>>>All countries have their own Rabbinate Cousels, so don't think that it
>>>>>is just Canada with their own.  Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>>>>>have demanded more money?
>>>>
>>>>>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>>>>>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>>>>>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>>>>>couldn't make any money either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin 
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>>>>>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!
>>>>
>>>>>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>>>>>by Ernesto Cienfuegos
>>>>>La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>
>>>>>Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>>receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers
>>>>>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>>>>>attention.
>>>>
>>>>>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>>>>>of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can be found
>>>>>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>>>>>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>>>>>do some research into the subject. What we found
>>>>>certainly was "news" to us and it both shocked and angered us.
>>>>
>>>>>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>>>>>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>>>>>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>>>>>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>>>>>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>>>>>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>>>>>container, the Trader Joe's tea box and even the Glads plastic
>>>>>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.
>>>>
>>>>>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>>>>>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>>>>>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>>>>>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>>>>>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>>>>>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>>>>>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>>>>>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>>>>>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>>>>>that the mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher".
>>>>
>>>>>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and
>>>>>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>>>>>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>>>>>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>>>>>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>>>>>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher"
>>>>>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>>>>>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>>>>>products.
>>>>
>>>>>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>>>>>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>>>>>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>>>>>receive protection.
>>>>
>>>>>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>>>>>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>>>>>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>>>>>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>>>>>other similar markings.
>>>>
>>>>>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>>>>>sophisticated "Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the
>>>>>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>>>>>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>>>>>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>>>>>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>>>>>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>>>>>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>>>>>in New York City.
>>>>
>>>>>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>>>>>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>>>>>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>>>>>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>>The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>>>>>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>>>>>certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>>>>>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>>>>>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>>>>>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>>>>>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>>>>>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>>>>>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>>>>>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>>>>
>>>>>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>>>>>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>>>>>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>>>>>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.
>>>>
>>>>>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>>>>>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>>>>>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>>>>>up to "inspect" the company's operations.
>>>>>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>>>>>lucrative salaries.
>>>>
>>>>>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>>>>>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>>>>>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>>>>>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>>>>>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>>>>>it now.
>>>>
>>>>>Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will
>>>>>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>>>>>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>>>>>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>>>>>certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee"
>>>>>or "kosher plastic sandwich bags".
>>>>>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>>>>>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>>>>>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>>>>>other non-Jewish people?
>>>>>* * * * * * * * * * * *
>>>>
>>>>>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>>>>>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below, today's Southam newspapers
>>>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>>>all Heinz products.
>>>>
>>>>>Heinz declared this was done " to keep costs down" according
>>>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.
>>>>
>>>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>>>including those sold under the Libby's label.
>>>>
>>>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis).
>>>>
>>>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>From: tyler 
>>>>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>>>>consumers
>>>>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT
>>>>
>>>>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers
>>>>
>>>>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>>>>proof is easily found.
>>>>
>>>>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>The following has been snipped from:
>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm
>>>>
>>>>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website explains:
>>>>
>>>>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>>>>close investigation and supervision.
>>>>
>>>>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.
>>>>
>>>>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost is minimial to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>>>>that!
>>>>
>>>>>>...and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>>>>annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>>>>friends and neighbours if they  know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>>>>Jewish, they won't have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>>>>because something is certified.
>>>>
>>>>>>tyler
>>>>>>the consumer watchdog!!!
>>>>
>>>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>>>>
>>>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>>>>
>>>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>>> is a revolutionary act."
>>>> (George Orwell)
>>>>
>>>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>>>>
>>>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>>>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>>>
>>>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>>>>
>>>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>>> and impossible to ignore."
>>>> --John Bryant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Posted by:
>>>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>>>> 1836 NW 11th St
>>>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>>>> (405) 524-0576
>>>>
>>>> together with
>>>>
>>>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>>>> Henry who like
>>>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>>>>
>>>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>>>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>>>> VISIT me at:
>>>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>>> office: VISIT at:
>>>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>>>
>>>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>>>> should give an indication as to the why.
>>>>
>>>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>>>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>>>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>>>>
>>>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>>>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>>>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>>
>>>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>>>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David 
>>>> Michael's
>>>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and 
>>>> is
>>>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a 
>>>> grosvenor!!
>>>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>>>>
>>>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late
>>>> nights.
>>>>
>>>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>>>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>>>> work:(780)492-0473
>>>>
>>>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>>>>
>>>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>>> JEW-WATCH:
>>>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>>>>
>>>> Or, other useful websites include:
>>>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>>>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>>>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>>>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>>>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>>>>
>>>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>>>>
>>>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>>>>
>>>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>>>>
>>>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>>>> for many years around the world.
>>>>
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Friday, 30th June is the deadline for filing an Appeal regarding fraudulently
high Tax Assessments.

For a $30 filing fee, one gets the opportunity to say nasty, but true, things
about the crooks in the city tax assessment department.

Plus, with a little work, one has a good chance to get the assessment, and
city taxes, lowered, plus a refund of the $30 fee!

Join the more than 100,000 complainers so far calling Citizen Action Center at
496-8200.


On Fri, 26 May 2006 15:02:43 GMT, Asterix 
wrote:
>On Fri, 26 May 2006 07:56:39 GMT, "sharx35" 
>wrote:

>>Well, SOME day, if you save up all your welfare payments, you, too, may 
>>become a home owner and concerned about property taxes.

>Well said, sharx.

If it wasn't for Grosvenor exposing the HALF MILLION A YEAR DELIBERATE
UNDER-ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY AT 13723 - 93 ST., which was
deliberately under-assessed for 8 years, the public would not have had
the PROOF as to how crooked the city tax assessors are!!


>>> Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
>>> they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. 
>>> If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
>>> should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, 
>>> but
>>> the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the 
>>> erroneous

>>> "sharx35"  wrote in message
>>> news:Feydg.35358$Qq.27711@clgrps12...
>>>> "John Fleming"  wrote in message
>>>> news:vcga7297ahfl0kb5o229s1lqq7gafok2v5@4ax.com...
>>>> > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:07 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>>>> > scriptorium, Lance Boyle  wrote:
>>>> >> $SamIAm wrote:

>>>> >> $> There are many good reasons to appeal your property assessment.
>>> Here are some reasons:

>>>> >> $> Tell them about the busy streets or the noisy development or
>>>> >> $> a problem with your roof or plumbing.

>>>> >> $> 2)  Your property is below average for your community.

>>>> >> $> So if most of the properties in your neighbourhood have
>>>> >> $> upgraded flooring, cabinets, plumbing, etc. and yours isn't then  you are
>>>> >> $> probably over assessed.

>>>> >> $> 3)  You live in a neighbourhood where many of your neighbours have
>>>> >> built
>>>> >> $> garages or have completed basement development or have done renovations
>>>> >> $> and you haven't.

>>>> >> $In other words, you live in an overvalued shithole.
>>>> > LOL

>>>> > Of course, his best option might be to just sell the house and buy
>>>> > something nicer in another neighbourhood.  (I was going to say, he  could
>>>> > do a kitchen upgrade, but if odne legally with all the necessary
>>>> > building permits, the city might just increase the assessed market 
>>>> > value and bump up the taxes.)

>>>> > John Fleming
>>>> > Edmonton, Canada

>>>> Doing upgrades WITHOUT permits eventually pisses off the neighbours  enough
>>>> that at least ONE of them will file a complaint. I know, I've filed such
>>>> complaints. Why should *I* pay more property taxes than some scofflaw who
>>>> refuses to get the permits?



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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, "princeandy"  wrote:

>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.

A lot of good ideas!

Now definitely needed for the members of the pedofilia party in
Holland!!

Also, for judges in Canada releasing repeat child molesters!!


On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:06:56 -0600, Ken McVaySOBC
 wrote:

>Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have approved
>special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags!!

>In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get their just
>punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!


>>DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags!!

>>This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
>>since many US states, and foreign countries are
>>starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.

>>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
>>of televising executions.

>>A few more thoughts on the subject.

>>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
>>VICTIMS of the criminals executed.

>>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
>>not only determine the method of execution, but should also
>>have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.

>>Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
>>but not limited to such, would include:
>
>>         AIDS spreaders
>>         rapists
>>         drug dealers
>>         home invaders
>>         armed robbers
>>         pederasts and similar child molesters
>>         crooked liars/lawyers
>>         corrupt judges
>>         corrupt politicians
>>         insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
>>         members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
>>         useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
>>              criminals being released
>>Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
>>         any spreader of any disease,including STD - this would
>>                obviously  include most faggots
>>        white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
>>                dollars  (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
>>                how they would   exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)


>>Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:

>>         crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
>>         vivisection
>>         medical experiments without anaesthetic
>>         target practice for police and military
>>         beheading
>>         hanging
>>         barbecueing by electrocution
>>         drawing & quartering

>>Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
>>	guillotining, very popular in France
>>	flaying alive until dead
>>	stoning to death - popular in some jurisdictions

>>More suggestions for both categories are invited.


>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant

>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431

>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.

>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473


>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:27:02 -0600, "Robert Sveinson"
>> wrote:
>>>"Roedy Green"  wrote in message
>>>news:81ptr0pj2ibnkktvdlh3ngrr09jgjih5d9@4ax.com...
>>>> The Iraqis are hopelessly outgunned, yet to everyone's surprise that
>>>> tiny country has held the biggest military in the world at bay.

>>>> One of their most successful techniques has been beheadings, and
>>>> releasing videos. This creates maximum horror with minimal loss of
>>>> life.

>>>> I think they could improve on the productions to make clear they are
>>>> in retaliation.

>>>> So I think the next beheading video should be spliced or split screen
>>>> with shots of dozens of people Americans have beheaded with their
>>>> bombs and machine gun fire.

>>>> I think they should branch out from beheadings, partly because
>>>> beheadings are too unreal.  They need something the man in the street
>>>> can more relate to.

>>>> I suggest, removing fingernails and toenails, removing or splitting
>>>> the penis, crushing the testicles in a vice, gouging out an eye with
>>>> a popsicle stick, allowing rats to nibble, nails through the hands and
>>>> feet, throwing darts at a target painted on the stomach, rubbing
>>>> rotting dead baby corpse goo over Americans stretched naked and then
>>>> slashing with knives to create gangrenous infections to be
>>>> photographed in stop motion, squeezing lemon juice into wounds.

>>>> Play with common phobias, e.g. spiders, snakes, scorpions, rats,
>>>> heights. E.g. video falling to death from a tall building with cameras
>>>> situated at top, bottom and attached to the victim.

>>>> Since Bush started the sexual abuse, and condones child rape, how
>>>> about killing a man with ever larger things shoved up his ass, pounded
>>>> home with a sledgehammer till he splits like a watermelon.

>>>> Of course any such violence must be justified by showing video of at
>>>> least a dozen instances of Americans doing something similar first.

>>>> "Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
>>>> Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
>>>> nor of Mussolini."
>>>> ~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
>>>>   on Bush's atrocities in the Iraq war.

>>>> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
>>>> See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes




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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:12:32 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:34:52 GMT, Carter ,  in wrote:
>>Jeff Rainer wrote:

>>>> Have seen nothing in any of the above which changes my basic premise,
>>>> i.e. if a sentence of "life" really meant life it would take killers
>>>> away from preying on society while also guarding against their being
>>>> executed if later evidence found them to be innocent. DP should remain
>>>> for those who kill police officers or prison guards.

>>> Why is the life of a cop or prison guard more valuable than the life of 
>>> another citizen?

>>It has nothing to do with the value of life.  It recognizes that 
>>to kill someone in authority is a more serious offence than to 
>>kill someone who has no authority over the killer.

>>Carter

>Cops do NOT deserve special consideration, any more than do any 
>other humans killed.

>Killers of cops deserve the DP, the same as do crooked politicians, 
>drug dealers, AIDS-spreaderes and similar vermin!!

Go back to law of Hamurabi - an eye for an eye!



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On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>>Trust that idiot?


>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?




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Frank Arthur, alias Grosvomit,  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud



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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:32:23 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Frank Arthur defrauds German,Swiss & other Europeans
>by posting to their newsgroups pretending to be Frank Arthur
>A fraud pretending to be Frank Arthur
>Legit Frank Arthur only posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
>Frank Arthur, and all the aliases is just another common thief. Some are pickpockets.
>Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. This human turd steals names.

>Here are some of his names-
>Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,
>Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
>Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
>GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
>KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
>All from Frank Arthur the fraud

>I am not only a liar, claiming to not post to newsgroups, but I am also a lunatic, 
>since I do not remember all my aliases and lies.




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Subject: Re: Edmonton vs. Toronto - Murders More Than Double in Edmonton!!
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 18:29:16 -0500, "MI Wakefield" 
wrote:

>Edmonton:  Estimated population of 712,000 and 36 murders so far in 2006 - 1 
>murder per 19,800 people.

>Toronto:  Estimated population of 2,480.000 and 58 murders so far in 2006 - 
>1 murder per 42,800 people. 


And the murder total for Deadmonton is NOT including the 107 women 
in the sex trade, possibly killed by a cop, judge or lawyer, but the bodies
were moved out past the city limits!!

Mind you, Redmonton now has the former deputy chief cop from Hogtown, 
who was repeatedly refused the top job there.

Here, he seems just as uselss as when he couldn't, or wouldn't do anything
about gangs in Toronto!!



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Subject: German, Dutch Tour Groups BOYCOTT Canada - Good!
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I doubt that even the fags would bother visiting Canada, 
not even to get a fag "marriage"

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:20:02 GMT, PureVenom 
wrote:

>This should do wonders for the airlines considering landing at the Leduc
>moosepasture with idiots for WEM from Europe!!

>Looks like a very lean summer for the tourist slime in STABmonton, if suckers
>from Europe continue the boycott!!


>On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:18:38 GMT, RevPhelps 
>wrote:

>>In a headline news story today published across Canada, German and 
>>Dutch tour operators will now start to boycott Canada.

>>This is part of a protest against Canada cancelling GST rebates for foreign
>>visitors. As many tour operators stated, "We simply can not afford to lose
>>money on bookings to Canada."

>>European tour operators, because of EU regulations, are unable to pass on to
>>their customers increases in costs, such as being forced to pay the Canadian
>>GST without being able to recover from the Canadian government.

>>The Tourism Industry Association of Canada is very disappointed with the tour
>>operators for their decision to pull out of Rendez-vous Canada.

>>It is a public relations and marketing challenge, president Randy Williams
>>claims.

>>Coming on the heels of all the bad news for tourism in Canada - the
>>over-priced Canuck dollar, SARS, post-911 strict travel security measures at
>>airports, confusion over the US passport rules, and significant crime problems
>>in places such as Edmonton Canada, tourism across Canada will really feel the
>>effect of the boycott.

>>It is expected that Caribbean destinations, Australia, and even South America
>>should all benefit from the stupidity of the Canadian government.



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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:07:17 GMT, BenyaminJKramer
 wrote:
>On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 07:58:39 -0700, YitzhakGoldstein
> wrote:

>>The city of Edmonton finally has opened a public snitchline.

>>Members of the public, as well as honest employees, can now 
>>make anonymous calls, to report wrong-doing by city employees.

>>The senior managers and the city unions do not want the phone 
>>number available to the public.

As a public service, the phone number is: 1-866-889-8297.

Now even Channel8 News is promoting the service, as a feature in 
tonight's news!

>>The service is being handled by a call center in Montreal.

>>They ask what is your connection to the city of Edmonton.
>>The appropriate response, if you own a home, is "SHAREHOLDER".

>>So, Sharx, Grosvenor, Marshall, sewbeit, et al, call in all your complaints
>>about crooks in Edmonton, including about financial irregularities in EPS.

Be sure to call, often, to: 1-866-889-8297

>>And do not forget the crooks in the city tax assessment department, giving
>>preferential treatment to their "friends"

And, all the crooked cops and missing items from the "locked property room",
and so on.





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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:14:14 -0700, VicRCurious@hotmail.com wrote:

Not only in Canada are the Russian ZYD Mafia making false claims as
alleged "REFUGEES" from Israel, just so they can jump the queue for
immigration, as well as being parasites on the taxpayers of the host
countries!!

Just ask taxpayers in Australia and New Zealand about their Israelis!


>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:36:26 -0700, Frank Arthur 
>wrote:
>
>>In a banner headline story on the front page of the issue of Canadian
>>Jew News for January 18 2007, is a huge story detailing how Israelis
>>are filing fraudulent claims as "REFUGEES", to jump the immigration
>>queues, and get into Canada.
>>
>>Even the Embassy in Canada for Israel is enraged about these false
>>claims, usually made by people who emigrated to Israel from the former
>>Soviet Union. They state categorically that these claims are
>>spurious!!
>>
>>The Israeli newspaper Ha'Aretz had a feature story in their issue for
>>31 December 2006. The article claimed that in year 2005 there were 679
>>claims as refugees made by these criminals, with many of these false
>>claims made to Canadian authorities.
>>
>>Canadian Jew News claims that 369 claims were made by Israelis
>>claiming refugee status in the 9 months from January to September 2006
>>alone!!
>>
>>The crooked Canadian Refugee people allowed 91 of these criminals to
>>stay in Canada at taxpayer expense!! In fact Israel has made the top
>>10 list of source countries for people claiming refugee status in the
>>first 3 quarters of 2006!!
>>
>>In fact, since 2000, almost 3,000 Israelis have claimed refugee
>>status, so that they can stay in Canada and live off Canadian
>>taxpayers with their fraudulent claims.



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It seems that even in Alberta, Harpo will lose many seats!

Guess all his scams, and his refusal to support seniors, will cost him the
election, leaving a minority Liberal government!!



On 1 Sep 2006 02:12:02 -0700, in can.politics "auldbobpeffers@aol.com"
 wrote:

Canada government slips in key battleground: poll

OTTAWA (Reuters) - The decision by Canada's minority Conservative
government to take a strongly pro-Israel stance is costing the party
support in the influential French-speaking province of Quebec,
according to a poll published on Thursday.

A CROP survey for La Presse newspaper put support for the federal
Conservatives at 24 percent, down from 33 percent from the firm's last
poll in late June. The separatist Bloc Quebecois was at 36 percent, up
six points.

The poll -- the latest in a line of surveys showing lackluster support
for the Conservative government -- is likely to dent speculation of a
possible election later this year.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Conservatives control only 125 of the
308 seats in Parliament and need to boost support in Quebec if he is to
stand any chance of winning a majority in the next election. The
Conservatives won 10 of Quebec's 75 seats in the January 23 vote.

CROP vice-president Claude Gauthier said it was clear that people in
Quebec -- one of the more left-leaning provinces -- disliked Harper's
backing for Israeli attacks against Lebanon.

As well, many were outraged when eight members of a Montreal family on
holiday in Lebanon were killed by an Israeli bombardment.

"Quebecers blame the Conservatives for giving almost unconditional
support to one side from the very beginning," Gauthier told the
newspaper. Harper said at the start of the assault that the Israeli
response was measured.

"Quebecers saw that as a lack of compassion, given what was happening
to Lebanese civilians," said Gauthier, adding that some people had also
been upset by recent big military spending announcements and Harper's
decision to skip a major        AIDS conference in Toronto earlier this
month.

The opposition Liberals -- who lost the election amid a Quebec kickback
scandal -- rose four points to 21 percent.

Many political observers doubt Harper will call an election unless
national support for the party hits 40 percent. The Conservatives are
currently hovering around 36 percent, the same level they achieved in
the January election.

Separately, CROP said support for Quebec's provincial Liberal
government was unchanged at 32 percent while the separatist Parti
Quebecois gained two points to 37 percent.

Quebec Premier Jean Charest, who won power in 2003, is expected to call
an election within the next year. Gauthier said the Liberals would need
to be at least five points ahead of the Parti Quebecois to stand a
chance of retaining power.

The Parti Quebecois says that if it wins the next election, it will
quickly hold another referendum on independence. Similar province-wide
polls failed in 1980 and 1995.

The CROP poll of 1,000 people was carried out from August 17 to 28 and
is considered accurate to within three percentage points, 19 times out
of 20.



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To see a video about the KOSHER TAX, go to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWn--jlRVAI&mode=related&search=

Thanks for posting this nice little introduction to the KosherNostra,
Tommy.

The Kosher industry is a fungus that has penetrated into every level of
US foods production, to the point that, even if you dig around 'til
you find a brand that *doesn't* bear the mark of the Kosher Beast,
most of the ingredients were still likely certified at some level, so
the Kashrus Khazars are still probably getting a cut.

The film indicates that a portion of the monies extracted from the
sleeping Gentiles in the Kosher racket goes to "support Israel"
(read OPPRESS PALESTINIANS), and this is almost undoubtedly the case.
The OU (Orthodox Union) is the Big Nose in the US Kash-R-Us market, and
they kick massive amounts of cash to support Zionist "causes" in
the Jewish State.

If the Khazars want to eat Kosher from a can, that's fine by me. But
let them pay for their own fetishes - pass around the plat at the ol'
synagogue. But it'd better be a damn BIG plate, as the film indicated
that they'd need to raise about 6 billion a year to replace the
monies that the Goyim currently unwittingly subsidize them.

One final note: As the film mentioned, some companies are now beginning
to balk - disbelieving the lies told them by the Kosher Racketeers, and
dumping certification.  Others are trying to get the best of both
worlds - for instance, right now I'm eating Planters Dry Roasted
Peanuts. On the package is a simple letter "K". It's not a
enclosed in a circle or a triangle, not enmeshed ins some fancy
pattern, just a simple "K" located approximately where an
"official" Kosher Symbol - owned by the racketeers- would be
placed.

This means that the company is self-regulating, and is NOT playing the
Kosher Racketeers game - OR paying them.    0:-(>

This is the company's way of telling the Kash-R-US Rabbis to take a
flying leap - as the Jews can't copyright the letter "K", (and
this drives these Food Nazis mad). Of course, Kosher Keeping Jew would
never buy the product because they know better - but the  "Kosher is
Better" Gentile consumer - those who have been duped into believing
that the Kosher seal somehow translates to mean a "better" product
(it doesn't - EVER) will never know the difference, and will buy it
anyway.


The shitty part for the Rabbinical Racketeers is that they CAN'T try
to educate the Gentile public on this matter - if they do, the jig'll
be up, and they'll soon be paying for their own picnic.  0:-(>


Will Planters (or Tabasco, etc) miss the Kosher Jewish market? Hell no!
Jews make up only about 2% of the US population, and only about 10% of
those are serious about keeping Kosher on a daily basis. To paraphrase
the ADL's article: The profit that companies make by selling mainline
products to Kosher Keeping Jews is SO low that "we can't even
calculate it".
**
Waldo
Observer at Large



Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!

When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the 
KOSHER TAX, who is more believable, them or liars such as you?

 Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
$30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!


On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:43:26 -0400, "zr"  wrote:

>You've got so much crap you should bottle it.
>Heinz & Libby both still have "cor" on their products. Just look on the back 
>of a bottle of Ketchup dimwit!
>Here is also another fact for you "herr grubber" the Heiress to the Heinz 
>fortune is a Jewess married to a Jew John F Kerry. You know the one, he ran 
>for President of the USA.
>Never mind Das Boat you get Das Boot imbecile.
>
>"Joe Bruno"  wrote in message 
>news:esbp729g8oqmc6h0b6hbodfj50rlfqgaa5@4ax.com...
>> Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!

>> When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the 
>> KOSHER TAX, who is more beleivable, them or liars such as you?

>> Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
>> $30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!

>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!

>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:53:33 -0500, "zr"  wrote:
>>
>>>Pure Bullshit!
>>>Next you'll be telling everyone Hallal foods are a rip off. Then Cereal, 
>>>and
>>>baby food.
>>>How about dog food.
>>>Isn't that what you white trash racists eat.
>>
>>>"Jules Streiker"  wrote in message
>>>news:ps7lt11vqd26jm3sc17tvahpierd7qhtha@4ax.com...
>>>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>>>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>>>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!
>>>>
>>>> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
>>>> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
>>>> part-time job!!
>>>>
>>>> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
>>>> extortion tax!!
>>>>
>>>> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>>>> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>>>> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>>>> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
>>>> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>>>> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>>>> qualified to do...
>>>>
>>>> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>>>> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>>>> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!
>>>>
>>>>>From: norma2339@charter.net
>>>>>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>>>>>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>>>>>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>>>>>"veranda"  wrote in message
>>>>>news:...
>>>>>> > >     veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since 
>>>>>> > > it
>>>>>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>>>>>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .
>>>>>> > >     The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>>>>>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost
>>>>
>>>>>>  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:9abc4e06.0304010305.50dc870e@posting.google.com...
>>>>>> > What duplication?  It is a symbol on the container and the cost 
>>>>>> > would
>>>>>> > not change in any way.  This "paranoia" is silly.
>>>>
>>>>>veranda : what 'paranoia' ?? we are talking about saving money .
>>>>>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>>>>>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>>>>>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>>>>>you knew that !
>>>>>Kosher is Israel's food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>>>>>we got our own  !  :)
>>>>
>>>>>Well, to set the record straight.  The Rabbinate council that approves
>>>>>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>>>>>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>>>>>doesn't really care.  It is not an item by item thing.  With the
>>>>>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>>>>>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>>>>>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>>>>>day.)
>>>>
>>>>>What would it save you--less than $10 a year.
>>>>
>>>>>All countries have their own Rabbinate Cousels, so don't think that it
>>>>>is just Canada with their own.  Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>>>>>have demanded more money?
>>>>
>>>>>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>>>>>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>>>>>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>>>>>couldn't make any money either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin 
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>>>>>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!
>>>>
>>>>>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>>>>>by Ernesto Cienfuegos
>>>>>La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>
>>>>>Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>>receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers
>>>>>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>>>>>attention.
>>>>
>>>>>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>>>>>of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can be found
>>>>>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>>>>>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>>>>>do some research into the subject. What we found
>>>>>certainly was "news" to us and it both shocked and angered us.
>>>>
>>>>>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>>>>>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>>>>>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>>>>>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>>>>>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>>>>>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>>>>>container, the Trader Joe's tea box and even the Glads plastic
>>>>>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.
>>>>
>>>>>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>>>>>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>>>>>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>>>>>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>>>>>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>>>>>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>>>>>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>>>>>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>>>>>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>>>>>that the mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher".
>>>>
>>>>>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and
>>>>>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>>>>>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>>>>>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>>>>>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>>>>>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher"
>>>>>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>>>>>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>>>>>products.
>>>>
>>>>>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>>>>>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>>>>>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>>>>>receive protection.
>>>>
>>>>>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>>>>>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>>>>>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>>>>>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>>>>>other similar markings.
>>>>
>>>>>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>>>>>sophisticated "Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the
>>>>>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>>>>>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>>>>>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>>>>>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>>>>>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>>>>>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>>>>>in New York City.
>>>>
>>>>>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>>>>>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>>>>>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>>>>>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>>The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>>>>>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>>>>>certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>>>>>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>>>>>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>>>>>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>>>>>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>>>>>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>>>>>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>>>>>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>>>>
>>>>>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>>>>>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>>>>>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>>>>>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.
>>>>
>>>>>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>>>>>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>>>>>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>>>>>up to "inspect" the company's operations.
>>>>>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>>>>>lucrative salaries.
>>>>
>>>>>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>>>>>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>>>>>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>>>>>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>>>>>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>>>>>it now.
>>>>
>>>>>Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will
>>>>>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>>>>>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>>>>>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>>>>>certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee"
>>>>>or "kosher plastic sandwich bags".
>>>>>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>>>>>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>>>>>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>>>>>other non-Jewish people?
>>>>>* * * * * * * * * * * *
>>>>
>>>>>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>>>>>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below, today's Southam newspapers
>>>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>>>all Heinz products.
>>>>
>>>>>Heinz declared this was done " to keep costs down" according
>>>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.
>>>>
>>>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>>>including those sold under the Libby's label.
>>>>
>>>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis).
>>>>
>>>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>From: tyler 
>>>>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>>>>consumers
>>>>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT
>>>>
>>>>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers
>>>>
>>>>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>>>>proof is easily found.
>>>>
>>>>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>The following has been snipped from:
>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm
>>>>
>>>>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website explains:
>>>>
>>>>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>>>>close investigation and supervision.
>>>>
>>>>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.
>>>>
>>>>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost is minimial to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>>>>that!
>>>>
>>>>>>...and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>>>>annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>>>>friends and neighbours if they  know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>>>>Jewish, they won't have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>>>>because something is certified.
>>>>
>>>>>>tyler
>>>>>>the consumer watchdog!!!
>>>>
>>>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>>>>
>>>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>>>>
>>>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>>> is a revolutionary act."
>>>> (George Orwell)
>>>>
>>>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>>>>
>>>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>>>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>>>
>>>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>>>>
>>>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>>> and impossible to ignore."
>>>> --John Bryant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Posted by:
>>>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>>>> 1836 NW 11th St
>>>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>>>> (405) 524-0576
>>>>
>>>> together with
>>>>
>>>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>>>> Henry who like
>>>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>>>>
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>>>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>>>> VISIT me at:
>>>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> office: VISIT at:
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>>>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>>>
>>>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>>>> should give an indication as to the why.
>>>>
>>>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>>>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>>>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
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>>>>
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>>>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>>
>>>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>>>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David 
>>>> Michael's
>>>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and 
>>>> is
>>>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a 
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>>>>
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>>>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late
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>>>>
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>>>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>>>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>>>> work:(780)492-0473
>>>>
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>>>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>>>>
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>>>> JEW-WATCH:
>>>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>>>>
>>>> Or, other useful websites include:
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>>>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
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In a banner headline story across page B1 of the Edmonton Journal for 21 July
2006, Statistics Canada reports that Edmonton Canada is now the crime capital
of Canada!

The Edmonton region homicide/murder rate is documented at 4.3 per 100,000
people, compared to only 2.0 for crime-ridden Toronto!!

And, the Edmonton stats do not include bodies found outside the area, from the
notorious Edmonton serial killer of 107 female prostitiutes!

And the city wonders why it is getting such bad international publicity,
mainly caused by the crooked cops, who apparently can not even catch a cold,
let alone the serial murderer, who is suspected by many, to be either a cop,
judge or criminologist.


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The zionazi ZYDS do not like to be reminded of this!
The ZYDS even use their shabbas-goy McVay, to try and deflect
this TRUE information.

The Christkillers dislike being reminded about the ZYD COLLABORATEURS - such
as KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI AND WIESENTHAL!!

Evean fat Hermann Goering used jews in his home and in the Luftwaffe.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 03:15:15 GMT, "amigo  cabal" 
wrote:

>Germans of Jewish Descent Who Served Hitler

>Possibly one of the most damning indictments of the allegations surrounding 
>the Holocaust and Nazi racial policy, come in an analysis of Germans of part 
>Jewish descent who were not only ardent Nazis but who faithfully served the 
>Nazi state at all levels in its military structure. For if the Nazi state 
>had, as is so often claimed, been hell bent on killing all traces of Jews, 
>it would never have allowed these individuals into positions which they did 
>hold - including army and air force generals.

>As discussed earlier, the Nazi racial laws made specific allowances for such 
>exceptions, and in fact actively sought to assimilate partial Jews into 
>German society, rather than have them re-congregate and form pure Jewish 
>gene pools once again. From the Nazi side, there was therefore no 
>contradiction between the assimilation of part Jews into German society, 
>although this policy is subject to considerable misunderstanding from 
>outside observers.

>As discussed in the book by American Military University professor Bryan 
>Mark Rigg in his book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers, The Untold Story of Nazi 
>Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military" (University 
>Press of Kansas, Modern War Studies, May 2002) as many as 150,000 men of 
>part Jewish descent, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, 
>even generals and admirals, fought for Nazi Germany right to the bitter end.

>Almost all of these 150,000 men received special exemptions and declarations 
>of being "true Germans", many of these orders being signed by Adolf Hitler 
>himself, in a legal provision known as the Deutschblütigkeitserklärung (or 
>literally, the Declaration of German Blood).

>Above: photographs of Wehrmacht soldier and half-Jew Anton Mayer, typical of 
>those which accompanied an application for exemption under the Nazis' racial 
>laws.

>Above left: Quarter-Jew Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing his Knight's Cross 
>(Ritterkreuz) with oak leaves. Above right: Adolf Hitler personally declared 
>Luftwaffe Field Marshall Erhard Milch (standing left) as  an Aryan, even 
>though Milch was half-Jewish. To Milch's right, General Wolfram von 
>Richthofen.

>Above right: Half-Jew Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; above right: The 
>military service book of half-Jew Hermann Aub.

>Above left: World War One veteran and half-Jew, General Johannes Zukertort; 
>and above right: Half-Jew Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens's first 
>staff officer on the battleship Bismarck.

>Above left: Half-Jew Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the 
>Knight's Cross (Ritterkreuz) and German-Cross in Gold; and above right: 
>Half-Jew Wehrmacht soldier Werner Goldberg.

>"KNOWING THE NAZI STATE FOR WHAT IT WAS"

>The significance of these Germans of Jewish descent serving the Third Reich 
>has not been lost on the academic world: for example, the following quote 
>from historian John Keegan in his review of Bryan Mark Rigg's book:
>
>"The revelation that Germans of Jewish blood, knowing the Nazi regime for 
>what it was, served Hitler as uniformed members of his armed forces must 
>come as a profound shock. It will surprise even professional historians of 
>the Nazi years."  - John Keegan, author of The Face of Battle and The Second 
>World War,  (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html)

>Keegan is of course, mistaken in the one sense, in that even a cursory study 
>of Nazi racial laws will have revealed that the Blood Protection Law of 1935 
>make specific allowances for such cases, and only the general hysteria and 
>ignorance of what the Nazis actually said and did has allowed people to be 
>"shocked" by the large number of part Jews serving the Reich.

>The phrase "knowing the Nazi regime for what it was" above by Keegan, is 
>however the real significant part: for indeed, if the Nazis had been mass 
>murdering, gassing and burning millions of Jews, it is extremely unlikely 
>that these 150,000 prominent Germans of part Jewish descent, would have 
>served the Reich at all, never mind having made specific application to be 
>granted full Aryan status - especially given that there were only 
>approximately 600,000 full blooded Jews in Nazi Germany.




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On 26 Nov 2006 13:38:45 -0800, in alt.revisionism "NH"
 wrote:

Today it is taught in the schools that "Anti-Semitism" began in Germany
in the 1930s after which they were deported. What is not studied is the
fact that at one time or other the Jews have been expelled from every
nation in Europe! When the Jews first began to immigrate to America the
early colonialists in New York, Charleston and Savannah tried to ban
their entry. Benjamin Franklin pleaded with the members of the
Continental Congress to enter a specific ban against Jewish immigration
into the U. S. Constitution to bar them for all time to come.

The Jews claim that they are "only" a religion. The truth is that the
Jews are a RACE. Less than 30% are members of any Synagogue. Whether
they are Orthodox religious, atheists, capitalists or communists - they
still claim to be Jews - members of the Jewish race! Every race has
inherited traits. In the case of the Jews they include trading,
money-changing, usury, and a loathing for "productive labor" which is
scorned as beneath the dignity of the Jews in their "bible" called "THE
TALMUD."

The Jews have not changed since the days when Jesus Christ took up a
whip and drove "the money changers out of the Temple." Jews have always
united to form monopolies. Today they control all the department store
chains and speciality shops along with the lucrative jewelry and animal
fur trade. Jews dominate the fields of all precious metals such as
gold, silver, platinum, tin, lead, etc. They will always ban together
to drive Gentile competitors out of business.

Today America is being flooded with Jewish immigrants from Russia and
even 20,000 per year leave Israel for the U. S. - all with dollar signs
in their eyes. Jews have used their vaunted money-power to seize
control of the Democratic Party and constitute over 50% of all its
financial contributions. Today they are buying up more and more major
U. S. companies. While only 3% of the population, the Jews control over
25% of the nation's wealth and this percentage rises every year. They
are the only racial group totally organized to work for political
domination over America.

Opposition to the Jews did not begin in Germany but dates back before
the birth of Christ over 2,000 years ago! Study the statements made by
"The world's greatest men." They reveal why the "wandering Jews" have
made enemies out of every host country that ever accepted them.

CICERO (Marcus Tullius Cicero). First century B.C. Roman stateman,
writer.

    "Softly! Softly! I want none but the judges to hear me. The Jews
have already gotten me into a fine mess, as they have many other
gentleman. I have no desire to furnish further grist for their mills."
(Oration in Defense of Flaccus)


Cicero was serving as defense counsel at the trial of Flaccus, a Roman
official who interfered with Jewish gold shipments to their
international headquarters (then, as now) in Jerusalem. Cicero himself
certainly was not a nobody, and for one of this stature to have to
"speak softly" shows that he was in the presence of a dangerously
powerful sphere of influence.
and on another occasion Cicero wrote:

    "The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how
numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they
exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and
deceivers."

SENECA (Lucius Annaeus Seneca). First century Roman philosopher.

    "The customs of that most criminal nation have gained such strength
that they have now been received in all lands. The conquered have given
laws to the conquerors." (De Superstitione)


DIO CASSIUS. Second century Roman historian. Describing the savage
Jewish uprising against the Roman empire that has been acknowledged as
the turning point downward in the course of that great state-form:

    "The Jews were destroying both Greeks and Romans. They ate the
flesh of their victims, made belts for themselves out of their
entrails, and daubed themselves with their blood... In all, 220,000 men
perished in Cyrene and 240,000 in Cyprus, and for this reason no Jew
may set foot in Cyprus today." (Roman History)


DIODORUS SICULUS. First century Greek historian.Observed that Jews
treated other people as enemies and inferiors.

    "Usury" is the practice of lending money at excessive interest
rates. This has for centuries caused great misery and poverty for
Gentiles. It has brought strong condemnation of the Jews!


BERNARDINO OF FELTRO. 15th century Italian priest. A mild man who
extolled patience and charity in normal circumstances, he described
himself as a "barking dog" when dealing with Jews:

    "Jewish usurers bleed the poor to death and grow fat on their
substance, and I who live on alms, who feed on the bread of the poor,
shall I then be mute before outraged charity? Dogs bark to protect
those who feed them, and I, who am feed by the poor, shall I see them
robbed of what belongs to them and keep silent?" (E. Flornoy, Le
Bienbeureux Bernardin the Feltre)


AQUINAS, THOMAS, Saint. 13th century scholastic philosopher. In his "On
the Governance of the Jews," he wrote:

    "The Jews should not be allowed to keep what they have obtained
>from others by usury; it were best that they were compelled to worked
so that they could earn their living instead of doing nothing but
becoming avaricious."


HILAIARE BELLOC, in the book THE JEWS, page 9

    "There is already something like a Jewish monopoly in high finance
... There is the same element of Jewish monopoly in the silver trade,
and in the control of various other metals, notably lead, nickel,
quicksilver. What is most disquieting of all, this tendency to monopoly
is spreading like a disease."


H. H. BEAMISH, in New York Speech, October 30, 1937

    "The Boer War occurred 37 years ago. Boer means farmer. Many
criticized a great power like Britain for trying to wipe out the Boers.
Upon making inquiry, I found all the gold and diamond mines of South
Africa were owned by Jews; that Rothschild controlled gold; Samuels
controlled silver, Baum controlled other mining, and Moses controlled
base metals. Anything these people touch they inevitably pollute."


W. HUGHES, Premier of Australia, Saturday Evening Post, June 19, 1919

    "The Montefiores have taken Australia for their own, and there is
not a gold field or a sheep run from Tasmania to New South Wales that
does not pay them a heavy tribute. They are the real owners of the
antipodean continent. What is the good of our being a wealthy nation,
if the wealth is all in the hands of German Jews?"


POPE CLEMENT VIII

    "All the world suffers from the usury of the Jews, their monopolies
and deceit. They have brought many unfortunate people into a state of
poverty, especially the farmers, working class people and the very
poor.
    Then as now Jews have to be reminded intermittently anew that they
were enjoying rights in any country since they left Palestine and the
Arabian desert, and subsequently their ethical and moral doctrines as
well as their deeds rightly deserve to be exposed to criticism in
whatever country they happen to live."


NESTA WEBSTER, In World Revolution, The Plot against Civilazation, page
163

    "Since the earliest times it is as the exploiter that the Jew has
been known amongst his fellow men of all races and creeds. Moreover, he
has persistently shown himself ungrateful... The Jews have always
formed a rebellious element in every state."


FRANZ LISZT, famed composer quoted in Col. E. N. Sanctuary's Are These
Things So?, page 278

    "The day will come when all nations amidst which the Jews are
dwelling will have to raise the question of their wholesale expulsion,
a question which will be one of life or death, good health or chronic
disease, peaceful existence or perpetual social fever."


JESUS CHRIST, speaking to the Jews in the Gospel of St. John, VIII:44

    "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lust of your father ye
will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the
truth, because there is not truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he
speaketh of his own: for he is a liar and the father of it. - then
answered the Jews - "

(which makes it clear that Christ was addressing the Jews.)

MARTIN LUTHER, Table Talk of Martin Luther, translated by William
Hazlet, page 43

    "But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though
overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a pernicious
race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If they give a
prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort twenty thousand
>from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep on guard against them."


REV. GORDON WINROD, in his book The Keys to Christian Understanding,
pages 114 - 115

    "Judaism does not know Jesus Christ. Judaism hates Jesus Christ.
When St. Paul was in Judaism, before he was converted to Christianity,
he hated Jesus Christ and persecuted Christians and Christianity."
    Paul said: "You have heard of my earlier career in Judaism - how
furiously I persecuted the Church of God, and made havoc of it; and how
in devotion to Judaism I out-stripped many men of may own age among my
people, being far more zealous than they for the tradition of my
forefathers." (Gal. 1:13, 14, Weymouth Translation)

While in Judaism, Paul persecuted Christians because of his intense
hatred for Christians and because of his conformity to the tradition of
the fathers. This shows that the tradition of teachings of Judaism are
filled with hate for Christians.
Few people know of this because they do not carefully read their
Scriptures and because of the great pains which Jews have take to
deceive the Christians. Care has been exerted by the Jews to hide their
ECONOMIC-POLITICAL conspiracy for complete world domination UNDER high
sounding words that have a "RELIGIOUS" ring in the ears of Christians.
The Jews use such "religious" sounding words as "the Jewish faith,"
"the Jewish religion," "Jewish spiritual values," "Jewish religious
doctrines," and like phrases which deceive and lead the unlearned into
total equanimity.
Behind this mask of religiosity stands a complete plan for world
government, world power, world conquest, a Jewish kingdom of this
world, and the destruction of Christianity.

REV. WILLIAM S. MITCHELL of Philadelphia, quoted in Count
Cherep-Spiridovich's book The Secret World Government, page 194

    "If there is an ingrate in history, it is the Jew. In this land
which befriended him he as conspired, plotted, undermined, prostituted
and corrupted and (hiding to this hour behind the braver screen of
other folks), dares to contrive and scheme the death of every Christian
principle which has protected him."


ST. JUSTIN, martyr stated in 116 A. D.

    "The Jews were behind all the persecutions of the Christians. They
wandered through the country everywhere hating and undermining the
Christian faith."


ST. JOHN, Gospel of St. John VII:1

    "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk
in Jewry because the Jews sought to kill him."


M. H. DE HEEKELINGEN, in Israel: Son Passe, Son Avenir

    "The former Rabbi Drach, converted to Catholicism, says that the
Talmud contains "a large number of musing, utterly ridiculous
extravagancies, most revolting indecencies, and, above all, the most
horrible blasphemies against everything which the Christian religion
holds most sacred and most dear."
    "In the matter of the translation of the Talmud by non-Jews, we
have always preferred that of Luzsensky, whose accuracy has been
established by the Courts. In 1923, the Public Prosecutor of Hungary
caused his Hungarian Talmud to be seized on account of "attack on
public morals" and "pornography." In delivering its verdict, the Court
declared 'INTER ALIA:'
    "The horrors contained in the translation of Alfred Luzsensky are
to be found, without exception, in the Talmud. His translation is
correct, in that it renders these passages, which are actually to be
found in the original text of the Talmud, after their true meaning."
    QUINTAS SPETIMUS FLORENS TERTULLIAN (160 - 230 A. D.) Latin Church
Father "The Jews formed the breeding ground of all anti-Christian
actions."


REV. MARTIN LUTHER, sermon at Eisleben, a few days before his death,
February, 1546

    "Besides, you also have many Jews living in the country, who do
much harm... You should know the Jews blaspheme and violate the name of
our Savior day for day... for that reason you, Milords and men of
authority, should not tolerate but expel them. They are our public
enemies and incessantly blaspheme our Lord Jesus Christ, they call our
Blessed Virgin Mary a harlot and her Holy Son a bastard and to us they
give the epithet of changelings and abortions.
    Therefore deal with them harshly as they do nothing but
excruciatingly blaspheme our Lord Jesus Christ, trying to rob us of our
lives, our health, our honor and belongings."


MARIA THERESA, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia (1771 - 1789)

    "Henceforth no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to
remain here without my written permission. I know of no other
troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverished
the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending and commits all
deeds which an honorable man despises. Subsequently they have to be
removed and excluded from here as much as possible."



(The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia states that "The Talmud is the real
"bible" of the Jews and that it supersedes the Old Testament. This
volume has been condemned down through the ages for preaching hatred
for Christ and all Christians. Read "THE TALMUD UNMASKED" for the full
shocking details.)

DIDEROT, DENIS. 18th century French scholar. His famous ENCYCLOPEDIE,
the bible of the pre-revolutionary French "enlightenment," has often
been complained of by Jewish writers as 'anti-Semitic.' Some of
Diderot's other writings are likewise unfriendly:

    "And you, angry and brutish people, vile and vulgar men, slaves
worthy of the yoke [Talmudism] which you bear ... Go, take back your
books and remove yourselves from me. (LA MOISADE)
    [The Talmud] taught the Jews to steal the goods of Christians, to
regard them as savage beasts, to push them over the precipice ... to
kill them with impunity and to utter every morning the most horrible
imprecations against them. (JUIFS)


NASTA WEBSTER, in Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, page 370

    "The Jewish conception of the Jews as the Chosen People who must
eventually rule the world forms indeed the basis of Rabbinical
Judaism... The Jewish religion now takes its stand on the Talmud rather
than on the Bible."


F. TROCASE, in Jewish Austria

    "No obstacle discourages them; they persevere throughout the world,
throughout the centuries, the unity of their race. The Talmud has given
them a powerful organization which modern progress has been unable to
change. Deep, ineradicable hatred of everything that is not Jewish
stimulates them in war which they wage against Christian Society, which
is too divided to be able to fight with the necessary energy."


COUNT HELMUTH VON MOLTKE, Prussian general

    "The Jews form a state, and, obeying their own laws, they evade
those of their host country.
    The Jews always consider an oath regarding a Christian not binding.
During the Campaign of 1812 the Jews were spies, they were paid by both
sides, they betrayed both sides."


MOHAMMED, in the Koran

    "Whoever is a friend of a Jew, belong to them, becomes one of them,
God cannot tolerate this mean people. The Jews have wandered from
divine religion. You must not relent in your work which must show up
Jewish deceit."


BACON, FRANCIS. 16th century British writer, politician. In his The New
Atlantis, he remarked that Jews

    "hate the name of Christ and have a secret and innate rancor
against the people among whom they live."

He also disapproved of non-Jewish usurers as "Judaizers" who would wear
"tawny bonnets" like Jews.

LUTHER, MARTIN. 16th century German religious reformer.

    "They are the real liars and bloodhounds, who have not only
perverted and falsified the entire Scriptures from beginning to end and
without ceasing with their interpretations. And all of the anxious
sighing, longing and hoping of their hearts is directed to the time
when some day they would like to deal with us heathen as they dealt
with the heathen in Persia at the time of Esther... On how they love
the book of Esther, which so nicely agrees with their bloodthirsty,
revengeful and murderous desire and hope. (1)
    The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful
people as they, who imagine to be the people of God, and who desire to
and think they must murder and crush the heathen. And the foremost
undertaking which they expect of their Messiah is that he should slay
and murder the whole world with the sword. As they at first
demonstrated against us Christians and would like to do now, if they
only could; have also tried it often and have been repeatedly struck on
their snouts...
    Their breath stinks for the gold and silver of the heathen; since
no people under the sun always have been, still are, and always will
remain more avaricious than they, as can be noticed in their cursed
usury. They also find comfort with this: "When the Messiah comes, He
shall take all the gold and silver in the world and distribute it among
the Jews. (2) Thus, wherever they can direct Scripture to their
insatiable avarice, they wickedly do so.
    Therefore know, my dear Christians, that next to the Devil, you
have no more bitter, more poisonous, more vehement and enemy than a
real Jew who earnestly desires to be a Jew. There may be some among
them who believe what the cow or the goose believes. But all of them
are surrounded with their blood and circumcision. In history,
therefore, they are often accused of poisoning wells, stealing children
and mutilating them; as in Trent, Weszensee and the like. Of course
they deny this. Be it so or not, however, I know full well that the
ready will is not lacking with them if they could only transform it
into deeds, in secret or openly. (3)
    A person who does not know the Devil, might wonder why they are so
at enemity with the Christians above all others; for which they have no
reason, since we only do good to them.
    They live among us in our homes, under our protection, use land and
highways, market and streets. Princes and government sit by, snore and
have their maws open, let the Jews take from their purse and chest,
steal and rob whatever they will. That is, they permit themselves and
their subjects to be abused and sucked dry and reduced to beggars with
their own money, through the usury of the Jews. For the Jews, as
foreigners, certainly should have nothing from us; and what they have
certainly must be ours. They do not work, do not earn anything from us,
neither do we donate or give it to them. Yet they have our money and
goods and are lords in our land where they are supposed to be in exile!
    If a thief steals ten gulden he must hang; if he robs people on the
highway, his head is gone. But a Jew, when he steals ten tons of gold
through his usury is dearer than God himself!
    Do not their TALMUD and rabbis write that it is no sin to kill if a
Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in Israel?
It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen. Therefore, to
steal and rob (as they do with their moneylending) from a heathen, is a
divine service... And they are the masters of the world and we are
their servants - yea, their cattle!
    I maintain that in three fables of Aesop there is more wisdom to be
found than in all the books of the Talmudists and rabbis and more than
ever could come into the hearts of the Jews...
    Should someone think I am saying too much - I am saying much too
little! For I see in [their] writings how they curse us Goyim and wish
as all evil in their schools and prayers. They rob us of our money
through usury, and wherever they are able, they play us all manner of
mean tricks... No heathen has done such things and none would to so
except the Devil himself and those whom he possesses - as he possesses
the Jews.
    Burgensis, who was a very learned rabbi among them and by the grace
of God became a Christian (which seldom occurs), is much moved that in
their schools they so horribly curse us Christians (as Lyra also
writes) and from that draws the conclusion that they must not be the
people of God.
    Now behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when they complain
about being captives among us! Jerusalem was destroyed more than 1,400
years ago during that time we Christians have been tortured and
persecuted by the Jews in all the world. On top of that, we do not know
to this day what Devil brought them into our country. We did not fetch
them from Jerusalem!... Yes, we have and hold them captive, as I would
like to keep my rheumatism, and all other diseases and misfortunes, who
must wait as a poor servant, with money and property and everything I
have! I wish they were in Jerusalem with the other Jews and whomsoever
they would like to have with them.

    Now what are we going to do with these rejected, condemned Jewish
people?... Let us apply the ordinary wisdom of other nations like
France, Spain, Bohemia, et al., who made them give an account of what
they had stolen through usury, and divided it evenly; but expelled them
>from their country;. For as heard before, God's wrath is so great over
them that through soft mercy they only become more wicked, through hard
treatment, however, only a little better. Therefore, away with them!
    How much more unbearable it is that we should permit the entire
Christendom and all of us to be bought with our own money, be slandered
and cursed by the Jews, who on top of all that be made rich and our
lords, who laugh us to scorn and are tickled by their audacity!
    What a joyful affair that would be for the Devil and his angels,
and cause them to laugh through their snouts like a sow grinning at her
little pigs, but deserving real wrath before God. (From THE JEWS AND
THEIR LIES)
    Maybe mild-hearted and gentle Christians will believe that I am too
rigorous and drastic against the poor, afflicted Jews, believing that I
ridicule them and treat them with much sarcasm. By my word, I am far
too weak to be able to ridicule such a satanic brood. I would fain to
do so, but they are far greater adepts at mockery than I and possess a
god who is master in this art. It is the Evil One himself.
    Even with no further evidence than the Old Testament, I would
maintain, and no person on earth could alter my opinion, that the Jews
as they are today are veritably a mixture of all the depraved and
malevolent knaves of the whole world over, who have then been dispersed
in all countries, similarly to the Tartars, Gypsies and such folk."


WASHINGTON, GEORGE, in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton &
Co.

    "They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy's
armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and
the great cause we are engaged in... It is much to be lamented that
each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pest to society and
the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America."



This prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND
THE TABLE DURING INTERMISSION," at the Philadelphia Constitutional
Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the dairy of Charles
Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.

    "I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this
young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. The menace,
gentlemen, is the Jews.
    In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they
have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have
segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at
and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is
founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within
the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to
death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal.
    For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate
in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call
Palestine. But gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple,
they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because
they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot
live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other
people not of their race.
    If you do not exclude them from these United States, in their
Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in
such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and
change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our
blood, given our lives our substance and jeopardized our liberty.
    If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants
will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they
will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you,
gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will
curse you in your graves.
    Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will nor
how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be
otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not
even thou they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change
its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted
entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention.


STYVESANT, PETER. 17th century Dutch governor in America.

    "The Jews who have arrived would nearly all like to remain here,
but learning that they (with their customary usury and deceitful
trading with the Christians) were very repugnant to the inferior
magistrates, as also to the people having the most affection for you;
the Deaconry also fearing that owing to their present indigence they
might become a charge in the coming winter, we have, for the benefit of
this weak newly developing place and land in general, deemed it useful
to require them in a friendly way to depart; praying also most
seriously in this connection, for ourselves also for the general
community of your worships, that the deceitful race - such hateful
enemies and blasphemers of the name of Christ - not be allowed further
to infect and trouble this new colony. (Letter to the Amsterdam Chamber
of the Dutch West India Company, from New Amsterdam, September 22,
1654.)

The Jews whom he attempted to oust merely applied to their fellow Jews
in Holland, and the order came back from the Company countermanding the
expulsion. (For a similar situation during the Civil War, see ULYSSES
GRANT). Among the reasons given by "their worships" for over-ruling
their governor, one stands out rather glaringly, in view of the usual
Jewish contention that their people were 'poor and persecuted:' "
...and also because of the large amount of capital which they have
invested in shares of this Company." (Harry Golden and Martin Rywell,
THE JEWS IN AMERICAN HISTORY)
THE GEORGIA COLONY IN AMERICA. On January 5, 1734, the trustees ordered
that three Jews who had been sending correligionists into the colony
without authorization "use their endeavors that the said Jews may be
removed from the Colony of Georgia, as the best and only satisfaction
that they can give to the Trustees for such an indignity offered to
Gentlemen acting under His Majesty's Charter." (C. Jones, HISTORY OF
SAVANNAH)

JEFFERSON, THOMAS. 18th century American statesman.

    "Dispersed as the Jews are, they still form one nation, foreign to
the land they live in. " (D. Boorstin, THE AMERICANS)
    "Those who labor in the earth are the Chosen People of God, if ever
he had a chosen people. " (NOTES ON VIRGINIA)


BEAMISH, HENRY H. 20th century British publisher.

    "There is no need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You must
face them in this country. The Jew should be satisfied here. I was here
forty-seven years ago; your doors were thrown open and you were then
free. Now he has got you absolutely by the throat - that is their
reward. " (New York speech, October 30, 1937)


HARRINGTON, LORD. 19th century British statesman. Opposed admission of
Jewish immigrants to England because:

    "They are the great moneylenders and loan contractors of the
world... The consequence is that the nations of the world are groaning
under heavy systems of taxation and national debt. They have ever been
the greatest enemies of freedom. (Speech in the House of Lords, July
12, 1858)


WALTER CRICK, British Manufacturer, in the NORTHAMPTON DAILY ECHO,
March 19. 1925)

    "Jews can destroy by means of finance. Jews are International.
Control of credits in this country is not in the hands of the English,
but of Jews. It has become the biggest danger the British Empire ever
had to face."


WORLD FAMOUS MEN of the past accused the Jews of founding Communism.
This charge is well founded. The Communist philosopy was drawn up by
Karl Marx who descended from a long line of Rabbis. His ideology of
anti-Christian and Socialist thought is outlined in the Jewish "TALMUD"
which is the "bible" of the Jews. Of the four political groups which
overthrew the Christan Czar of Russia two were 100% Jewish. They were
the Mensheviks and The Jewish Bund. The other two were the Socialist
Revolutionary Party and the Bolsheviks. Both were headed by Jews but
had some Gentile members. Today we now know that Lenin was Jewish and
all of the leaders of his first government were Jews. They were
Trotsky, Zinoviev, Kamenev and Sverdlow. The wealthiest Jewish banker
in the world at that time, Jacob Schiff of Kuhn, Loeb investment bank
of New York City, gave Trotsky and Lenin $20 million to overthrow the
Czar and establish the Soviet tyranny (according to the "NEW YORK
JOURNAL-AMERICAN" of February 3, 1949.)

CHURCHILL, WINSTON. 20th century British politician. In 1920, he wrote
a long newspaper article of the recent Bolshevik seizure of Russia.
After praising what he called the "national Jews" of Russia, he said:

    "In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish efforts rise
the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister
confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of
countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if
not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and
divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This
movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of
Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky
(Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxemburg (Germany), and Emma
Goldman (United States), this world-wide revolutionary conspiracy for
the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on
the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and
impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern
writer, Mrs. Webster has ably shown, a definite recognizable part in
the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworlds of
the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people
by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed
masters of the enormous empire.
    There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creating of
Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution
by these international and for the most part atheistic Jews. It is
certainly the very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With
the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are
Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from
the Jewish leaders... In the Soviet institutions the predominance of
Jews is even more astounding. And the prominent if not the principal
part in the system of terrorism applied by the extraordinary
Commissions for combating Counter Revolution has been take by Jews, and
in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was
obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun
ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany
(especially Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey
upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all
these countries there are many nonJews every whit as bad as the worst
of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in
proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing. ("Zionism
versus Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People."
ILLUSTRATED SUNDAY HERALD, London, February 8, 1920.)


BAKUNYIN, MIKHYL. 19th century Russian revolutionary.

    "Marx is a Jew and is surrounded by a crowd of little, more or less
intelligent, scheming, agile, speculating Jews, just as Jews are
everywhere, commercial and banking agents, writers, politicians,
correspondents for newspapers of all shades; in short, literary
brokers, just as they are financial brokers, with one foot in the bank
and the other in the socialist movement, and their arses sitting upon
the German press. They have grabbed hold of all newspapers, and you can
imagine what a nauseating literature is the outcome of it.
    Now this entire Jewish world, which constitutes an exploiting sect,
a people of leeches, a voracious parasite, Marx feels an instinctive
inclination and a great respect for the Rothschilds. This may seem
strange. What could there be in common between communism and high
finance? Ho ho! The communism of Marx seeks a strong state
centralization, and where this exists there must inevitably exist a
state central bank, and where this exists, there the parasitic Jewish
nation, which speculates upon the labor of the people, will always find
the means for its existence...
    In reality, this would be for the proletariat a barrack regime,
under which the workingmen and the working closely and intimately
connected with one another, regarless not only of frontiers but of
political differences as well - this Jewish world is today largely at
the disposal of Marx or Rothschil. I am sure that, on the one hand, the
Rothschilds appreciate the merits of Marx, and that on the other hand,
women, converted into a uniform mass, would rise, fall asleep, work and
live at the beat of the drum; the privilege of ruling would be in the
hands of the skilled and the learned, with a wide scope left for
profitable crooked deals carried on by the Jews, who would be attracted
by the enormous extension of the international speculations of the
national banks... (Polémique contres les Juifs)

This startling piece of prediction is particularly impressive to those
who have observed the Soviet scene and notice its strange relationship
with capitalist financiers - overwhelmingly Jewish - since the
revolution. The line runs from Olof Aschberg, self-described "Bolshevik
banker" who ferried to Trotsky the huge sums raised for the revolution
by financiers in Europe and America, to Armand Hammer in the 1970s, who
has specialized in multimillion-dollar trade concessions with the now
supposedly 'anti-Semitic' commissars.

WILHELM II. German Kaiser.

    "A Jew cannot be a true patriot. He is something different, like a
bad insect. He must be kept apart, out of a place where he can do
mischief - even by pogroms, if necessary.
    The Jews are responsible for Bolshevism in Russia, and Germany too.
I was far too indulgent with them during my reign, and I bitterly
regret the favors I showed the prominent Jewish bankers." (CHICAGO
TRIBUNE, July 2, 1922)


CARDINAL MINDSZENTY, of Hungary quoted in B'nai B'rith Messenger,
January 28, 1949

    "The troblemakers in Hungary are the Jews... they demoralize our
country and they are the leaders of the revolutionary gang that is
torturing Hungary."


ADRIEN ARCAND, New York speech, October 30, 1937

    "When it came to Mexico, the promoters of Communism were the Jews
Calles, Hubermann and Aaron Saenz; in Spain we saw Azaña and
Rosenberg; in Hungary we saw Bela Kun, Szamuelly, Agoston and dozen
other Jews; in Bavaria, we saw Kurt Eisner and a host of other Jews; in
Belgium Marxian Socialism brought to power Vadervelde alias Epstein,
and Paul Hymans, two Jews; in France, Marxian Socialism brought forth
the Jews Leon Blum (who showed so well his Jewish instincts in his
filthy book Du Mariarge), Mandel, Zyromsky, Danain and a whole tribe of
them; in Italy we had seen the Jews Nathan and Claudio Treves.
Everywhere, Marxism brings Jews on the top - And this is no hazard."


HILAIRE BELLOC, renown historian in G. K.'s WEEKLY, February 4, 1937

    "The propaganda of Communism throughout the world, in organization
and direction is in the hands of Jewish agents. As for anyone who does
not know that the Bolshevist movement in Russia is Jewish, I can only
say that he must be a man who is taken in by the suppression of our
deplorable press."


A. HOMER, writes in Judaism and Bolshevism, page 7

    "History shows that the Jew has always been, by nature, a
revolutionary and that, since the dispersion of his race in the second
century, he has either initiated or assisted revolutionary movements in
religion, politics and finance, which weakened the power of the States
wherein he dwelt. On the other hand, a few far-seeing members of that
race have always been at hand to reap financial and political advantage
coincident with such upheavals."


CAPTAIN MONTGOMERY SCHYLER, American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia, in
a military intelligence report dated March 1, 1919, to Lt. Col. Barrows
in Vladivostok

    "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the United States but
the Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning guided and
controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type, who have been in the
United States and there absorbed every one of the worst phases of our
civilization without having the least understanding of what we really
mean by liberty."


MRS. CLARE SHERIDAN, Traveler, Lecturer in NEW YORK WORLD, December 15,
1923

    "The Communists are Jews, and Russia is being entirely administered
by them. They are in every government office, bureau and newspaper.
They are driving out the Russians and are responsible for the
anti-Semitic feeling which is increasing."


MAJOR ROBERT H. WILLIAMS, in Fecp and the Minority Machine, page 10

    "B'nai B'rith, the secret Jewish fraternity, was organized in 1843,
awakening world Jewish aspirations, or Zionism, and its name, meaning
"Sons of the Covenant," suggests that the 12 men who organized the
fraternity aimed at bringing about the fulfillment of "the Covenant,"
or the supposed Messianic promise of rulership over all peoples. To
rule all peoples, it is first necessary to bring them together in a
world federation or world government - which is the avowed aim of both
Communists and Zionists."


VLADIMIR, LENIN, Founder of Bolshevik Communist (From an article in
Northern Pravda, October-December 1913, qouted in Lenin on the Jewish
Question, page 10)

    "There the great universally progressive features of Jewish culture
have made themselves clearly felt: its internationalism, its
responsiveness of the advanced movements of our times (the percentage
of Jews in democratic and proletarian movements is everywhere higher
than the percentage of Jews in the general population.)
    ...Those Jewish Marxists who join up in the international Marxist
organizations with the Russian, Lithuanian, Ukrainian and other
workers, adding their might (both in Russian and in Jewish) to the
creation of an international culture of the working class movement, are
continuing the best traditions of Jewry."


JOSEPH STALIN in a reply given on January 12, 1931 to an enquiry made
by the Jewish Telegraphic Agency of America (Stars and Sand, page 316)

    "Anti-Semitism is dangerous for the toilers, for it is a false
track which diverts them from the proper road and leads them into the
jungle. Hence, Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but
be irreconcilable and bitter enemies of anti-Semitism. In the U.S.S.R.,
anti-Semitism is strictly prosecuted as a phenomenon hostile to the
Soviet system. According to the laws of the U.S.S.R. active
anti-Semites are punished with death."


HENRY FORD in (The Dearborn Independent, 12-19 February 1921

    "Jews have always controlled the business... The motion picture
influence of the United States and Canada... is exclusively under the
control, moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public
mind."


M. OUDENDYK, the Netherlands' Minister to Petrograd on September 6,
1918, to the British Government, published in the unexpurgated edition
of A Collection of Reports on Bolshevism in Russia, April, 1919

    "...I consider that the immediate suppression of Bolshevism is the
greatest issue before the World, not even excluding the war which is
till raging, and unless, as above stated, Bolshevism is nipped in the
bud immediately, it is bound to spread in one form or another over
Europe and the whole World, as it is organized and worked by Jews who
have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own
ends the existing order of things."


A. N. FIELD, in Today's Greatest Problem

    "Once the Jewishness of Bolshevism is understood, its otherwise
puzzling features become understandable. Hatred of Christianity, for
instance, is not a Russian characteristic; it is a Jewish one."


FATHER DENIS FAHEY; in his book The Rulers of Russia, page 25

    "The real forces behind Bolshevism is Russia are Jewish forces, and
Bolshevism is really an instrument in the hands of the Jews for the
establishment of their future Messianic kingdom."


A. N. FIELD, The Truth About the Slump, page 208

    "The World today, however provides a spectacle of a great
concentration of Jewish power. In New York there is a concentration of
Jewish financial power dominating the entire world in its material
affairs, and side by side with it is the greates physical concentration
of the Jews ever recorded. On the other side of the globe, there has
taken place in Russia the greatest concentration of the Jewish
revolutionary activity in all history...
    The enormously significant thing in the world today is that both
this power of the purse (Theodor Herzl's "terrible (Jewish) power of
the purse") and revolutionary activity are working in the direction of
destroying the entire existing order of things, and not only are they
working in a common direction, but there is a mass of evidence that
they are working in unison."


H. H. BEAMISH, N.Y. speech, 1937

    "Communism is Judaism. The Jewish Revolution in Russia was in
1918."


HILARY COTTER, author of Cardinal Minszenty, The Truth About His Real
"Crime," page 6

    "Communism and Judaism are one and the same."


ADRIEN ARCAND, Canadian political leader in New York Speech, October
30, 1937

    "There is nothing else in Communism - a Jewish conspiracy to grab
the whole world in their clutches; and no intelligent man in the world
can find anything else, except the Jews, who rightly call it for
themselves a "paradise on earth."

    Jews are eager to bring Communism, because they know what it is and
what it means.
    It is because Communism has not been fought for what it really is -
a Jewish scheme invented by Jews - that it has progressed against all
opposition to it. We have fought the smoke-screen presented by Jewish
dialecticians and publicists, refusing to fight the inventor, profiteer
and string-puller. Because Christians and Gentiles have come to fear
the Jews, fear the truth, and they are paralyzed by the paradoxical
slogans shouted by the Jews."
    REV. KENNETH GOFF, in STILL 'TIS OUR ANCIENT FOE, page 99 "The
Frankenstein of Communism is the product of the Jewish mind, and was
turned loose upon the world by the son of a Rabbi, Karl Marx, in the
hopes of destroying Christian civilization - as well as others. The
testimony given before the Senate of the United States which is take
>from the many pages of the Overman Report, reveals beyond a shadow of a
doubt that Jewish bankers financed the Russian Revolution."


POPES, ROMAN CATHOLIC.

SYLVESTER I. Condemned Jewish anti-Christian activity.

GREGORY I ('The Great'). Protested wholesale circumcision of Christian
slaves by Jewish traders, who monopolized the slave trade in Europe and
the Middle East and were widely suspected of supplying white girls to
Oriental and African buyers.

GREGORY VIII. Forbade Jews to have power over Christians, in a letter
to Alfonso VI of Castile.

GREGORY IX. Condemned the TALMUD as containing "every kind of vileness
and blasphemy against Christian doctrine."

BENEDICT XIII. His Bull on the Jewish issue (1450) declared:

    "The heresies, vanities and errors of the TALMUD prevent their
knowing the truth."

JULIUS III. Contra Hebreos retinentes libros (1554) ordered the TALMUD
burned "everywhere" and established a strict censorship over Jewish
genocidal writings - an order that has never been rescinded and which
presumably is still binding upon Catholics.

PAUL IV. Cum nimis absurdim (1555) promulgated immediately after his
coronation, was a powerful condemnation of Jewish usury. It embodies a
model legal code to curb Jewish power that was recommended to all
communities.

PIUS IV. Condemned Jewish genocidal writings.

PIUS V. Hebraeorum gens (1569) expelled all Jews from the Papal States.

GREGORY XIII. Declared that Jews

    "continue to plot horrible crimes" against Christians "with daily
increasing audacity."

CLEMENT VIII. Condemned Jewish genocidal writings.

ALEXANDER VIII. Condemned Jewish genocidal writings.

BENEDICT XIV. Quo Primum 1751) denounced Jewish control of commerce and
"systematical despoliation" of the Christian through usury.

PIUS VII. Known generally as an 'anti-Semite' by Jewish writers.

BENEDICT XV. Warned, in 1920, against

    "the advent of a Universal Republic which is longed for by all the
worst elements of disorder."

This is resented by some Jews because of their active sponsorship and
direction of such projects as the League of Nations and United Nations.
- And in effect, all Popes who have issued editions of the Index
Expurgatorius, in which Jewish genocidal and anti-Christian writings
are condemned, according to the instructions of the Council of Trent.


GRANT, USYSSES S. 19th century American general, politician. While in
command of the 13th Army Corps, headquartered at Oxford, Mississippi,
he became so infuriated at Jewish camp-followers attempting to
penetrate the conquered territory that he finally attempted to expel
the Jews:

    "I have long since believed that in spite of all the vigilance that
can be infused into post commanders, the special regulations of the
Treasury Department have been violated, and that mostly by Jews and
other unprincipled traders. So well satisfied have I been of this that
I instructed the commanding officers at Columbus to refuse all permits
to Jews to come South, and I have frequently had them expelled from the
department, but they come in with their carpet-sacks in spite of all
that can be done to prevent it. The Jews seem to be a privileged class
that can travel anywhere. They will land at any woodyard on the river
and make their way through the country. If not permitted to buy cotton
themselves, they will act as agents for someone else, who will be at
military post with a Treasury permit to receive cotton and pay for it
in Treasury notes which the Jew will buy up at an agreed rate, paying
gold. (Letters to C. P. Wolcott, assistant secretary of war,
Washington, December 17, 1862)
    1. The Jews, as a class, violating every regulation of trade
established by the Treasury Department, and also Department orders, are
hereby expelled from the Department.
    2. Within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order by Post
Commanders, they will see that all of this class of people are
furnished with passes and required to leave, and anyone returning after
such notification, will be arrested and held in confinement until an
opportunity occurs of sending them out as prisoners, unless furnished
with permits from these headquarters.
    3. No permits will be given these people to visit headquarters for
the purpose of making personal application for trade permits.
    By order of Major Gen. Grant Jno. A. Rawlings, Assistant Adjutant
General (General Order Number 11, December 17, 1862)


The expulsion order was immediately countermanded by the
general-in-chief, H. W. Halleck, in Washington. Apparently the expelled
Jews had immediately contacted their kinsmen there and had pressure
brought to bear.

SHERMAN, WILLIAM T. 19th century American soldier. In a letter from
Union-occupied Memphis, July 30, 1862, he wrote:

    "I found so many Jews and speculators here trading in cotton, and
secessionists had become so open in refusing anything but gold, that I
have felt myself bound to stop it. The gold can have but one use - the
purchase of arms and ammunition... Of course, I have respected all
permits by yourself or the Secretary of the Treasury, but in these new
cases (swarms of Jews), I have stopped it." (The Sherman Letters)


ROSS, L. F. 19th century American military man. As did Generals ULYSSES
S. GRANT and WILLIAM T. SHERMAN, Ross confronted Jewish 'carpetbagging'
cotton traders preying upon captured Confederate areas during the Civil
War. In a letter to General John A. McClernand, he wrote:

    "The cotton speculators are quite clamorous for aid in the getting
their cotton away from Middleburg, Hickory Valley, etc., and offer to
pay liberally for the service. I think I can bring it away with safety,
and make it pay to the Government. As some of the Jew owners have as
good as stolen the cotton from the planters, I have no conscientious
scruples in making them pay liberally to take it away."


OLMSTED, GREDERICK LAW. 19th century American architect, historian.

    "A swarm of Jews has, within the last ten years, settled in every
Southern town, many of them men of no character, opening cheap clothing
and trinket shops, ruining or driving out of business many of the old
retailers, and engaging in an unlawful trade with the simple Negroes,
which is found very profitable. (The Cotton Kingdom. For other views on
Jewish involvement in exploiting the South, see ULYSSES S. GRANT and
MARK TWAIN.)


TWAIN, MARK (S. L. Clemens). 19th century American writer.

    "In the U.S. cotton states, after the war... the Jew came down in
force, set up shop on the plantation, supplied all the Negroes' wants
on credit, and at the end of the season was the proprietor of the
Negro's share of the present crop and part of the next one. Before
long, the whites detested the Jew. (1)
    The Jew is being legislated out of Russia. The reason is not
concealed. The movement was instituted because the Christian peasant
stood no chance against his commercial abilities. The Jew was always
ready to lend on a crop. When settlement day came, he owned the crop;
the next year he owned the farm - like Joseph. (2)
    In the England of John's time everybody got into debt to the Jew.
He gathered all lucrative enterprises into his hands. He was the King
of Commerce. He had to be banished from the realm. For like reasons,
Spain had to banish him 400 years ago, and Austria a couple of
centuries later.
    In all ages Christian Europe has been obliged to curtail his
activities. If he entered upon a trade, the Christian had to retire
>from it. If he set up as a doctor, he took the business. If he
exploited agriculture, the other farmers had to get at something else.
The law had to step in to save the Christian from the poor-house.
Still, almost bereft of employments, he found ways to make money. Even
to get rich. This history has a most sordid and practical commercial
look. Religious prejudices may account for one part of it, bit not for
the other nine.
    Protestants have persecuted Catholics - but they did not take their
livelihoods away from them. Catholics have persecuted Protestants - bit
they never closed agriculture and the handicrafts against them. I feel
convinced that the Crucifixion has not much to do with the world's
attitude toward the Jew; that the reasons for it are much older than
that event ...
    I am convinced that the persecution of the Jew is not in any large
degree due to religious prejudice. No, the Jew is a money-getter. He
made it the end and aim of his life. He was at it in Rome. He has been
at it ever since. His success has made the whole human race his enemy.
    You will say that the Jew is everywhere numerically feeble. When I
read in the Cyclopedia Britannica that the Jewish population in the
United States was 250,000 I wrote the editor and explained to him that
I was personally acquainted with more Jews than that, and that his
figures were without doubt a misprint for 25,000,000. People told me
that they had reasons to suspect that for business reasons, many Jews
did not report themselves as Jews. It looks plausible. I am strongly of
the opinion that we have an immense Jewish population in America. I am
assured by men competent to speak that the Jews are exceedingly active
in politics. ("Concerning the Jews," Harper's Monthly Magazine,
September 1899)


Twain's opinion on the Jews is probably the best-kept secret in
American literary history. Immediately after his death, his eccentric
daughter Clara married - or was married by - the Jewish piano player,
Ossip Galbrilowitsch. Twain's publishers were given speedy instructions
to delete "Concerning the Jews" from the collected works, where it had
appeared in the book The Man that Corrupted Hadleybury & Other Stories.
(1) Since Jews provided most of the agitators and orators who pushed
forward the Abolition campaign that culminated in the Civil War (which
Jewish bankers largely financed, on both sides), it seems a legitimate
question whether there was any preplanning for the wholesale - and
retail - economic looting done by mainly Jewish carpetbaggers after the
war. (2) We have cited a host of other writers on the terrible economic
depredation that Jewry visited on the people of Tzarist Russia.

ERNEST RENAN, French historian

    "The Jews are not merely a different religious community, but - and
this is the most important factor - ethnically an altogether different
race. The European felt instinctively that the Jew is a stranger, who
immigrated from Asia. The so-called prejudice is natural sentiment.
Civilization will overcome antipathy against the Israelite who merely
professes another religion, but never against the racially different
Jew...
    In Eastern Europe the Jew is the cancer slowly eating into the
flesh of other nations. Exploitation of the people is his only aim.
Selfishness and a lack of personal courage are his chief
characteristics; self-sacrifice and patriotism are altogether foreign
to him."


GOLDWIN SMITH, Professor of Modern History at Oxford, wrote in
Nineteenth Century, October 1881

    "The Jew alone regard his race as superior to humanity, and looks
forward not to its ultimate union with other races, but to its triumph
over them all and to its final ascendancy under the leadership of a
tribal Messiah."


MENCKEN, H. L. 20th century American writer.

    "The Jews could be put down very plausibly as the most unpleasant
race ever heard of. As commonly encountered they lack any of the
qualities that mark the civilized man: courage, dignity,
incorruptibility, ease, confidence. They have vanity without pride,
voluptuousness without taste, and learning without wisdom. Their
fortitude, such as it is, is wasted upon puerile objects, and their
charity is mainly a form of display." (Treatise on the Gods)
    The fact that what are commonly spoken of as rights are often
really privileges is demonstrated in the case of the Jews. They resent
bitterly their exclusion from certain hotels, resorts and other places
of gathering, and make determined efforts to horn in. But the moment
any considerable number of them horns in, the attractions of the place
diminish, and the more pushful Jews turn to one where they are still
nicht gewuenscht ... ("not wanted.")
    "I am one of the few Goyim who have ever actually tackled the
TALMUD. I suppose you now expect me to add that it is a profound and
noble work, worthy of hard study by all other GOYIM. Unhappily, my
report must differ from this expectation. It seems to me, save for a
few bright spots, to be quite indistinguishable from rubbish..."
    "The Jewish theory that the GOYIM envy the superior ability of the
Jews is not borne out by the facts. Most GOYIM, in fact, deny that the
Jew is superior, and point in evidence to his failure to take the first
prizes: he has to be content with the seconds. No Jewish composer has
ever come within miles of Bach, Beethoven and Brahms; no Jew has ever
challenged the top-flight painters of the world, and no Jewish
scientist has equaled Newton, Darwin, Pasteur or Mendel. In the latter
bracket such apparent exception as Ehrlich, Freud and Einstein are only
apparent. Ehrlich, in fact, contributed less to biochemical fact than
to biochemical theory, and most of his theory was dubious. Freud was
nine-tenths quack, and there is sound reason for believing that even
Einstein will not hold up: in the long run his curved space may be
classed with the psychosomatic bumps of Gall and Spurzheim. But whether
this inferiority of the Jew is real or only a delusion, it must be
manifest that it is generally accepted. The GOY does not, in fact,
believe that the Jew is better than the non-Jew; the most he will admit
is that the Jew is smarter at achieving worldly success. But this he
ascribes to sharp practices, not to superior ability." (Minority
Report: H. L. Mencken's Notebooks)


SHAW, GEORGE BERNARD. 20th century British dramatist.

    "This is the real enemy, the invader from the East, the Druze, the
ruffian, the oriental parasite; in a word: the Jew. (London Morning
Post, December 3, 1925)
    This craving for bouquets by Jews is a symptom of racial
degeneration. The Jews are worse than my own people. Those Jews who
still want to be the chosen race (chosen by the late Lord Balfour) can
go to Palestine and stew in their own juice. The rest had better stop
being Jews and start being human beings. (Literary Digest, October 12,
1932)


WAGNER, RICHARD. 19th century German composer.

    "The Jew has never had an art of his own, hence never a live of
art-enabling import... "So long as the separate art of music had a real
organic life-need in it, down to the epochs of Mozart and Beethoven,
there was nowhere to be found a Jew composer: it was utterly impossible
for an element quiet foreign to that living organism to take a part in
the formative stages of that life. Only when a body's inner death is
manifest, do outside elements win the power of judgment in it - yet
merely to destroy it.
    On one thing am I clear: that is the influence which the Jews have
gained upon our mental life, as displayed in the deflection and
falsification of our highest culture-tendencies. Whether the downfall
of our culture can be arrested by a violent rejection of the
destructive alien element, I an unable to decide, since that would
require forces with whose existence I am unacquainted. (Judaism in
Music)


SOMBART, WERNER. 20th century German economist.

    "Capitalism was born from the money loan. Money lending contains
the root idea of capitalism. Turn to the pages of the TALMUD and you
will find that the Jews made an art of lending money. They were taught
early to look for their chief happiness in the possession of money.
They fathomed all the secrets that lay hid in money. They became Lords
of Money and Lords of the World...


FITZGERALD, F. SCOTT. 20th century American novelist.

    "Down a tall busy street he read a dozen Jewish names on a line of
stores; in the door of each stood a dark little man watching the
passers from intent eyes - eyes gleaming with suspicion, with pride,
with clarity, with cupidity, with comprehension. New York - he could
not dissociate it from the slow, upward creep of this people - the
little stores, growing, expanding, consolidating, moving, watched over
with hawks' eyes and a bee's attention to detail - they [were Jews.]


EMERSON, RALPH WALDO. 19th century American philosopher, poet.

    "The sufferance which is the badge of the Jew has made him, in
these days, the ruler of the rulers of the earth. (Fate an essay)


BURTON, SIR RICHARD FRANCIS. 19th century British diplomat, writer.
After a sting as consul at Damascus, Syria, where some years before, a
Catholic priest was allegedly murdered in a blood ritual by Jews,
Burton took an interest in the matter. His investigations satisfied him
that such killings actually were performed by certain sects of Jews.

    "The Jew's hand was ever, like Ishmael's, against every man but
those belonging to the Synagogue. His fierce passions and fiendish
cunning, combined with abnormal powers of intellect, with intense
vitality, and with a persistency of purpose which the world has rarely
seen, and whetted moreover by a keen thirst for blood engendered by
defeat and subjection, combined to make him the deadly enemy of all
mankind, whilst his unsocial and iniquitous Oral Law contributed to
inflame his wild lust of pelf, and to justify the crimes suggested by
spite and superstition."


DREISER, THEODORE. 20th century American writer.

    "New York to me is a scream - a Kyke's dream of a ghetto. The Lost
Tribe has taken the island. (Letter to H. L. Mencken, November 5, 1922)
"
    "Liberalism, in the case of the Jew, means internationalism. If you
listen to Jews discuss Jews, you will find they are mone-minded, very
sharp in practice. The Jews lack the fine integrity which at last is
endorsed, and to a certain degree followed, by lawyers of other
nationalities. The Jew has been in Germany for a thousand years, and he
is still a Jew. He has been in America for all of 200 years, and he has
not faded into a pure American by any means - and he will not. (Letter
to Hutchins Hapgood, The Nation magazine, April 17, 1935)"


WELLS, H. G. 20th century British writer.

    "The Jews looked for a special savior, a messiah, who was to redeem
mankind by the agreeable process of restoring the fabulous glories of
David and Solomon, and bringing the whole world at last under the firm
but benevolent Jewish heel." (The Outline of History)
    "Zionism is an expression of Jewish refusal to assimilate. If the
Jews have suffered, it is because they have regarded themselves as a
chosen people." (The Anatomy of Frustration)
    "A careful study of anti-Semitism prejudice and accusations might
be of great value to many Jews, who do not adequately realize the
irritations they inflict." (Letter of November 11, 1933)
    Wells was in the habit of referring to KARL MARX as "a shallow
third-rate Jew," and "a lousy Jew" in private correspondence. (Norman
MacKenzie, H. G. Wells)


LINDBERGH, CHARLES. 20th century American aviator, writer.
Wednesday, August 23, 1939

    "We are disturbed about the effect of the Jewish influence in our
press, radio and motion pictures. It may become very serious. [Fulton]
Lewis told us of one instance where the Jewish advertising firms
threatened to remove all their advertising from the Mutual system if a
certain feature were permitted to go on the air. The threat was
powerful enough to have the feature removed."

Thursday, May 1, 1941

    "The pressure for war is high and mounting. The people are opposed
to it, but the Administration seems to have 'the bit in its teeth' and
is hell-bent on its way to war. Most of the Jewish interests in the
country are behind war, and they control a huge part of our press and
radio and most of our motion pictures. There are the 'intellectuals'
and the 'Anglophiles,' and the British agents who are allowed free
rein, the international financial interests, and many others." (The
Wartime Journals)


GENERAL GEORGE VAN HORN MOSELY, in the New York Tribune, March 29, 1939

    "The war now proposed is for the purpose of establishing Jewish
influence throughout the world."


HERDER, JOHANN GOTTFRIED. 18th century German philosopher.

    "The Jewish people is and remains in Europe an Asiatic people alien
to our part of the world, bound to that old law which it received in a
distant climate, and which, according to its confession, it cannot do
away with...
    How many of this alien people can be tolerated without injury to
the true citizen?
    A ministry in which a Jew is supreme, a household in which a Jew
has the key of the wardrobe and the management of the finances, a
department or commissariat in which Jews do the principal business, are
Pontine marshes which cannot be drained. (Bekehrung der Juden)
    For thousands of years, since their emergence on the stage of
history, the Jews were a parasitic growth on the stem of other nations,
a race of cunning brokers all over the earth. They have cause great
evil to many ill-organized states, by retarding the free and natural
economic development of their indigenous population. ("Hebraer," in
Ideen)


BONAPARTE, NAPOLEON. French statesman, general.

    "The Jews provided troops for my campaign in Poland, but they ought
to reimburse me: I soon found that they are no good for anything but
selling old clothes..."
    "Legislating must be put in effect everywhere that the general
well-being is in danger. The government cannot look with indifference
on the way a despicable nation takes possession of all the provinces of
France. The Jews are the master robbers of the modern age; they are the
carrion birds of humanity... "They must be treated with political
justice, not with civil justice. They are surely not real citizens."
    "The Jews have practiced usury since the time of Moses, and
oppressed the other peoples. Meanwhile, the Christians were only rarely
usurers, falling into disgrace when they did so. We ought to ban the
Jews from commerce because they abuse it... The evils of the Jews do
not stem from individuals but from the fundamental nature of this
people." (From Napoleon's Reflections, and from speeches before the
Council of State on April 30 and May 7, 1806.)
    "Nothing more contemptible could be done than the reception of the
Jews by you. I decided to improve the Jews. But I do not want more of
them in my kingdom. Indeed, I have done all to prove my scorn of the
most vile nation in the world." (Letter to his brother Jerome, King of
Westphalia, March 6, 1808)
    (1) Every big and small Jew is the peddling trade must renew his
license every year.
    (2) Checks and other obligations are only redeemable if the Jew can
prove that he has obtained the money without cheating. (Ordinance of
March 17, 1808. Napoleonic Code.)


DE GAULLE, CHARLES. 20th century French politician. Addressing the
Zionist imbroglio in the Mideast in a news conference of November 27,
1967, he observed:

    "The Jews remain what they have been at all times: an elite people,
self-confident and domineering."


SAND, GEORGE (Amantine Dupin Dudevant). 19th century French novelist.

    "I saw in 'the wandering Jew' the personification of the Jewish
people, exiled in the Middle Ages. Nevertheless, they are once again
extremely rich, owing to their unfailing rude greediness and their
indefatigable activity. With their hard-heartedness that they extend
toward people of other faiths and races they are at the point of making
themselves kings of the world. This people can thank its obstinacy that
France will be Judized within fifty years. Already some wise Jews
prophesy this frankly." (Letter to Victor Lorie, 1857)


COMMUNITY OF STRASBOURG, FRANCE. In an address to the ASSEMBLEE in
1790, the city's revolutionary leaders opposed citizenship for Jews,
because:

    "Everyone knew the inherent bad character of the Jews and no one
doubted they were foreigners... Let the 'enlighteners' stop defaming
the Gentiles by blaming them for what is wrong with the Jews. Their
conduct is their own fault. Perhaps the Jews might eventually give up
every aspect of their separation and all the characteristics of their
nature. Let us sit and wait until that happens; we might them judge
them to be worthy of equality. (Tres Humble Adresse qui Presente la
Commune de la Ville Strasbourg)


ROBERTS, STEPHEN H. 20th century Australian historian. Though hostile
on almost every point to National Socialism, his The House that Hitler
Built does admit that Jews were a menace in Germany:

    "It is useless to deny that grave Jewish problems existed in
Germany. The nation was in the unfortunate geographical position of
being the first stage in the perennial push westward of the Polish
Jews. Unless forced on, they tended to stop in Berlin and Hamburg,
where they obtained an unduly share of good professional positions. In
Berlin, for example, when the Nazi came to power, 50.2 percent of the
lawyers were Jews. In medicine, 48 per cent of the doctors were Jews,
and it was said that they systematically seized the principal hospital
posts. The Jews owned the largest and most important Berlin newspapers,
and they had made great inroads on the educational system."


FRANCO, FRANCISCO. 20th century Spanish statesman. In his victory
speech in Madrid, on May 19, 1939, he declared:

    "Let us be under no illusion. The Jewish spirit, which was
responsible for the alliance of large-scale capital with Marxism and
was the driving force behind so many anti-Spanish revolutionary
agreements, will not be got rid of in a day."


PRIMO DE RIVERA, JOSE. 20th century Spanish political reformer
(assassinated by the Communists). He stressed that the instruments of
Jewish domination in the modern world are money and the press, and that
communism is an instrument of international Jewish capitalism used to
smash and afterwards rule the nations. (El Estado Nacional)

H. H. BEAMISH, in a New York address, October 30 - November 1, 1937

    "In 1848 the word "anti-Semitic" was invented by the Jews to
prevent the use of the word "Jew." The right word for them is "Jew" ...
    "I implore all of you to be accurate - call them Jews. There is no
need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You must face them in this
country. The Jew should be satisfied here. I was here forty-seven years
ago; your doors were thrown open to the Jews and they were free. No he
has got you absolutely by the throat - that is your reward."


CHRISTEA, PATRIARCH. 20th century Romanian prelate.

    "The Jews have caused an epidemic of corruption and social unrest.
They monopolize the press, which, with foreign help, flays all the
spiritual treasures of the Romanians. To defend ourselves is a national
and patriotic duty - not anti-Semitism. Lack of measures to get rid of
the plague would indicate that we are lazy cowards who let ourselves be
carried alive to our graves. Why should we not get rid of these
parasites who suck Romanian and Christian blood? It is logical and holy
to react against them." (New York Herald Tribune, August 17, 1937)


HOUSTON STEWART CHAMBERLAIN, world famed author of Foundations of the
Nineteenth Century, Vol. I, page 337

    "The revelation of Christ has no significance for the Jew! ... I
have searched through a whole library of Jewish books in the
expectation of finding - naturally not belief in the Divinity of
Christ, nor the idea of redemption, but the purely human feeling for
the greatness of suffering Savior - but in vain. A Jew who feels that,
is, in fact, no longer a Jew, but a denier of Judiasm. And while we
find, even in Mohammed's Koran, at least a vague conception of the
importance of Christ and profound reverence for His personality, a
cultured leading Jew of the nineteenth century (Graetz) calls Christ
"the new birth with the death mask," which inflicted new and painful
wounds upon the Jewish people; he cannot see anything else in Him. In
view of the Cross he assures us that "the Jews do not require this
convulsive emotion for their spiritual improvement," and adds,
"particularly not among the middle classes of inhabitants of the
cities." His comprehension goes further. In a book, republished in
1880, by a Spanish Jew (Mose de Leon) Jesus Christ is called a "dead
dog" that lies "buried in a dunghill." Besides, the Jews have taken
care to issue in the latter part of the nineteens century several
editions (naturally in Hebrew) of the so-called "censured passages"
>from the Talmud, those passages usually omitted in which Christ is
exposed to our scorn and hatred as a "fool," "sorcerer," "profane
person," "idolater," "dog," "bastard," "child of lust," etc.: so, too,
His sublime Mother."


ADRIEN ARCAND, Canadian political leader of the 1930s

    "Through their (Jew's) international news agencies, they mold your
minds and have you see the world not as it is, but as they want you to
see it. Through their cinema, they are the educators of our youth - and
with just one film in two hours, can wipe out of a child's brain what
he has learned in six months in the home, the church or the school."


NESTA WEBSTER, in her book Germany and England

    "England is no longer controlled by Britons. We are under the
invisible Jewish dictatorship - a dictatorship that can be felt in
every sphere of life."


HENRY WALLACE, Secretary of Commerce, under President Harry Truman,
wrote in his dairy that in 1946

    "Truman was "exasperated" over Jewish pressure that he support
Zionist rule over Palestine. Wallace added "Pres. Truman expressed
himself as being very much 'put out' with the Jews. He said that 'Jesus
Christ couldn't please them when he was here on Earth, so how could
anyone expect that I would have any luck?' Pres. Truman said he hand no
use for them and didn't care what happened to them."


WILLIAM JENNINGS BRYANT, three times the Democratic Party candidate for
President said:

    "New York is the city of privilege. Here is the seat of the
Invisible Power represented by the allied forces of finance and
industry. This Invisible Government is reactionary, sinister,
unscrupulous, mercenary, and sordid. It is wanting in national ideals
and devoid of conscience... This kind of government must be scourged
and destroyed."


HENRY ADAMS (Descendant of President John Adams), in a letter to John
Hay, October 1895

    "The Jewish question is really the most serious of our problems."


SPRING-RICE, SIR CECIL. 20th century British politician.

    "One by one, the Jews are capturing the principal newspapers of
America. (Letter of November 1914, to Sir Edward Grey, foreign
secretary. Letters and Friendships)


CAPOTE, TRUMAN. 20th century American writer. In an interview, he
assailed "the Zionist mafia" monopolizing publishing today, and
protested a tendency to suppress things that do not meet with Jewish
approval. (Playboy magazine, March 1968)

VOLTAIRE (Francois Marie Arouet) 18th century French philosopher,
writer.

    "Why are the Jews hated? It is the inevitable result of their laws;
they either have to conquer everybody or be hated by the whole human
race..."
    "The Jewish nation dares to display an irreconcilable hatred toward
all nations, and revolts against all masters; always superstitious,
always greedy for the well-being enjoyed by others, always barbarous -
cringing in misfortune and insolent in prosperity." (Essai sur le
Moeurs)
    "You seem to me to be the maddest of the lot. The Kaffirs, the
Hottentots, and the Negroes of Guinea are much more reasonable and more
honest people than your ancestors, the Jews. You have surpassed all
nations in impertinent fables in bad conduct and in barbarism. You
deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny." (From a letter to a
Jew who had written to him, complaining of his 'anti-Semitism.' Examen
des Quelques Objections... dans L'Essai sur le Moeurs.)
    "You will only find in the Jews an ignorant and barbarous people,
who for a long time have joined the most sordid avarice to the most
detestable superstition and to the most invincible hatred of all
peoples which tolerate and enrich them." ("Juif," Dictionnaire
Philosophique)
    "I know that there are some Jews in the English colonies. These
marranos go wherever there is money to be made... But whether these
circumcised who sell old clothes claim that they are of the tribe of
Naphtali or Issachar is not of the slightest importance. They are,
simply, the biggest scoundrels who have ever dirtied the face of the
earth." (Letter to Jean-Baptiste Nicolas de Lisle de Sales, December
15, 1773. Correspondance. 86:166)
    "They are, all of them, born with raging fanaticism in their
hearts, just as the Bretons and the Germans are born with blond hair. I
would not be in the least bit surprised if these people would not some
day become deadly to the human race." (Lettres de Memmius a Ciceron,
1771)


CANNOT, E. 19th century French reformer. In La Renovation, journal of
the socialist school of CHARLES FOURIER.

    "Jews! To the heights of your Sinai... I humbly lift myself. I
stand erect and cry out to you, in behalf of all my humble equals, of
all those whom your spoliation has brought to grief, who died in misery
through you and whose trembling shades accuse you: Jews! for Cain and
Iscariot, leave us, leave us! Ah, cross the Red Sea again, and go down
there to the desert, to the promised land which is waiting for you, the
only country fit for you; o you wicked, rude and dishonest people, go
there!!! ("Israel")



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A list of possible suitable targets for bombing in Canada 
will probably include the following:

Parliament when full of useless MPs and Senators
Supreme Court when full of anti-normal judges
Toronto slums where criminals based
Port of Vancouver
Port of Halifax
Port of Prince Rupert
Port of Toronto
St.Lawrence Seaway
Oil refinery Sarnia
Oil refineries Edmonton
Oil refineries Calgary
Toronto Stock Exchange
West Deadmonton Mall
Cold Lake military base
Gagetown military base
Halifax naval base
Vancouver airport
Toronto airport
Halifax airport
Montreal airport

Feel free to add other suitable targets for bombing. 


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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, "Venceremos"  wrote:

>The Accusations

>     Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>     Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
>     British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
>     escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
>     February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

>     I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
>     I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
>     deeds of the war.

>     While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still
>     on my arm

>     Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
>     uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

>     Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

>     Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>     little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>     when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>     (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

>     These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>     published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>     "I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
>     commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
>     in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
>     future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
>     directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>     political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>     authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

>     This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>     lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
>     Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
>     collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>     hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
>     Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
>     camps, the price...was not too high for me.

>     "...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
>     Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
>     While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
>     another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
>     with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>     he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>     "Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
>     a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

>     "As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
>     between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
>     immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>     would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>     blood to achieve his political goal...
>     'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
>     this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
>     service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
>     would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>     concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>     That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
>     (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

>     Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
>     do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
>     money and military equipment."

>     Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>     According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
>     When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
>     citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
>     Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
>     views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>     official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
>     Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
>     of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>     -88-

KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER, 
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi 
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer  wrote:

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest.......

>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12

>The Kastner Case
>-----------------

>Introduction

>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question 'The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.

>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.

>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>----------------
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>------------
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another."
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher'.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements." (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>-------------
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense." (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>
>"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose." (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma'ariv*:
>
>"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>rehabilitated'.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>-------------------------
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view...
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>--------------------------
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others....
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.'
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc - and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith...
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>-----------
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the 'dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships'.
>
>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, 'now dead'. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Elias Davidsson - Oldugata 50 - 101 Reykjavik - Iceland
>Tel. (354)-552-6444     Fax: (354)-552-6579
>Email: edavid@itn.is     URL:  http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Posted by: 
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry 
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially late
nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur
or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.





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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:55:06 -0700, in can.general Frank Arthur
 wrote:

Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING!
Proof!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering
activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
Message-ID: 

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
Message-ID: 
Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
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Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
Message-ID: 
Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
Message-ID: 
Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant



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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:59:00 +0100, in soc.culture.europe "Baba­Bey the Turk"
 wrote:

How Israeli spies in the U.S. and Canada and their helpers (sayanim) try 
to silence and censor authors and researchers. Here's an example:


http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/1097/9710037.html
 "
Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, October/November 1997, Page 37 

Bookburners and Their Victims 

First-Hand Accounts of Pro-Israel McCarthyism: When Israel's Mossad 
Set Out to 'Break' Me, It Found Its Helpers Here at Home

by Victor Ostrovsky

"We will get to him by other means, we will break him economically," 
stated the chief of the Mossad, Israel's CIA, to a Knesset committee after 
the failure of the government of Israel's attempt to ban publication of my 
first book, By Way of Deception, in the U.S. and Canada. This statement, 
made on camera, was purposefully leaked to an Israeli reporter and 
printed in the weekend addition of Ma'ariv, Israel's leading daily 
newspaper, with the military censor's approval. Since that day, Israel's 
foreign intelligence agency has waged a war of attrition against me with 
the enthusiastic cooperation of its cabal of North American Zionist 
organizations. 

For years as a Canadian-born, Israel-raised former Mossad caseworker I 
was unwilling to accept the possibility of a wide conspiracy against me. 
After all, my book had finally been published. What more harm could I do 
to the country I had left in disgust to return to the land of my birth. Only 
hitting rock bottom has finally jolted me out of this state of innocence-
and optimism that a change of luck is just around the corner. I'm now 
convinced that I am the target of a broad collusion between elements of 
the Israeli government and their gofers, mostly in the American Jewish 
community. 

Following publication of my By Way of Deception I wrote a spy novel, Lion 
of Judah, using the spycraft I'd learned with the Mossad as background. 
The book described a fictional Mossad operation aimed at thwarting a 
secret peace process underway in the Middle East. (The book was written 
and published before the real-life, year-long secret negotiations that led to 
the Oslo accord came to light.) 

In the book I revealed considerably more about Mossad techniques than I 
had in By Way of Deception. But, despite the wide publicity garnered by 
my first book due to the Israeli government's unsuccessful effort to 
suppress it, my second book was ignored. 

Radio and television interviews that were scheduled by my publisher were 
canceled almost as soon as they were booked. A speaker's bureau in 
Toronto, which seldom had trouble arranging speaking engagements with 
student and other groups eager to have me as a speaker, found that the 
engagements were cancelled before I could appear. In fact, the 
cancellations occurred each time a local B'nai B'rith Anti-Defamation 
League (ADL) chapter got wind of them, and they always did. 

But, of course, the less I spoke, the more time I had to write. In 1995, 
when my third book, The Other Side of Deception, another work of non-
fiction, was published, the efforts against me were stepped up. 

So, on Oct. 21, 1995, I was surprised to be invited by Canadian 
Television (CTV) producer Ron Fine to do a guest appearance on 
"Canada AM," the widely viewed Canadian version of "Good Morning 
America." Scheduled to appear on the same program, via satellite from 
Israel, was Israeli journalist Yosef Lapid, the former head of Israeli 
television. 

An Appeal to Murder

Lapid had earned his 14 minutes of North American media fame by 
appealing openly on the Israeli television show "Popolitica" for the 
Mossad to seek me out in Canada and kill me for writing my books. He 
had followed this with an article making the same appeal in the Tel Aviv 
daily Ma'ariv headlined "By Virtue of Murder" (see accompanying 
translation). 

On cue, Lapid repeated, as I listened, his call for my assassination on the 
Canadian television show, but this time with a twist. He said that, since 
Israel's Mossad could not kill me in Canada without causing a diplomatic 
incident, "I hope that there would be a decent Jew in Canada who would 
do the job for us." 

My reaction was horror mixed with relief. Now it was going to be hard for 
media gatekeepers to pretend that there were not "ugly Israelis" every bit 
as vicious and fanatical as the Iranian ayatollah who had called for the 
assassination in Britain by a British Muslim of author Salman Rushdie. 

Along with the producers of the show, a large percentage of the Canadian 
public had just seen for themselves a former Israeli government official 
calling upon Canadian Jews to murder me on Canadian soil for the books 
I had written. But, to my astonishment, there seemed no inclination by the 
Canadian media to follow up the story when it was an Israeli rather than 
an Iranian inciting the murder of a published author. I had never felt more 
alone and isolated in my life. 

My spirits brightened when a reporter from USA Today viewed the tape of 
the "Canada AM" show and was outraged. "I'm going to write a story 
about this," he declared, and proceeded to interview me for over an hour. 
Then, while I was still in his office, his editor told him by telephone to
kill 
the article. "It's not a story," the editor said. The silence surrounding me 
intensified. 

It was a year later that Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was 
assassinated by a right-wing zealot who got his legitimization for murder 
>from an extremist rabbi and his marching orders from the likes of Lapid. If 
by Lapid's rules I should be killed according to his category "D" (see 
accompanying article), in the eyes of Yigal Amir, Rabin's assassin, so 
should Rabin. I have no doubt in my mind that all those like Lapid who 
make their own rules as to who may live and who must die are partners in 
Rabin's murder. 

A radio host named Tim Kern from a station in Denver, Colorado, called 
me up for an interview. Several days later he sent a file on me he had 
received from the "Mountain state regional office of the Anti-Defamation 
League of B'nai B'rith." The ADL communication suggested that the 
station drop the interview, claiming that I am an unreliable subject. This 
sequence was repeated over and over at radio and television stations in 
the United States and Canada. Ironically, supposedly separate Jewish 
organizations around the United States kept coming up with the same 
wording in their efforts to shut me up. 

The same people who presumably would praise someone from the CIA or 
the U.S. armed forces who exposed serious wrongdoing in those 
institutions were now hard at work to smother my criticisms of an 
intelligence agency for a foreign country that, to put it as charitably as 
possible, does not have America's best interests at heart. The Americans 
who call me a traitor to Israel for exposing the Mossad's efforts to kill the 
peace process hail as a hero Jonathan Pollard, a traitor to the U.S. who 
spied on the American government for Israel. 

In an attempt to break the vicious cycle, I decided to sue in a Canadian 
court Yosef Lapid for inciting my murder and "Canada AM" for airing his 
incitement to the public. I assumed that bringing the issue to public 
attention would expose the attempts of organizations in both the U.S. and 
Canada that in fact are agents of Israel to suppress the truth through 
intimidation and, if necessary, economic or physical terrorism. 

After accepting a hefty retainer and completing the preparations for trial, 
my lawyer, Paul B. Kane of Perley-Robertson, Panet, Hill and McDougall 
in Ottawa, Canada, informed me that he could not continue with the case. 
His explanation was that the safety of his staff would clearly be 
jeopardized if he proceeded. 

Then HarperCollins, my publisher, informed me it was keeping the last 
portion of my advance, some $46,000, against advertising. I pointed out 
that since this was something I had never agreed to, they had no right to 
do it. "Sue us," was their response. 

At the same time, my daughter, a television producer, was denied a job 
she had been offered in a Vancouver television station after its Toronto 
head office learned of her relationship to me. 

Then my Canadian publisher, Stoddart, informed me it had decided not to 
publish my newest spy novel, Dominion of Treason, and also that it was 
holding back all monies coming to me from By Way of Deception and Lion 
of Judah. 

Meanwhile I had suggested to my agent in Toronto a new (fifth) book on 
the American militia movement. I proposed to interview supporters of the 
movement to ascertain their motivations, and then define the movement 
in terms of its members rather than simply labeling them as the enemy 
and shutting the door on them. I believe the growth of misunderstanding 
and mistrust within a nation, and particularly between regions as is the 
case between America's Eastern seaboard on the one hand and its 
Midwest and Far West on the other, is courting disaster. 

My agent was enthusiastic about the proposed project. We called it We 
the People. For several months he told me how this proposed book was 
being received in literary circles of New York. Then he dropped out of 
sight, and I have not been able to make contact with him to this day. I 
know he is in his office and doing business, but he will not return my calls. 

In 1996, a new, New York-based agent struck a light at the end of a very 
long, dark tunnel. Regnery Inc., a Washington-based publisher, signed a 
contract with me for a tongue-in-cheek guide to espionage called The Spy 
Game. They had some suggestions, however, for making the book more 
serious on the grounds that readers don't regard spying as a laughing 
matter. 

As I was in the final stages of the first draft, however, my house burned to 
the ground. The fire marshal's report declared it arson. No one was hurt, 
since we had moved out several weeks earlier and I was using only one 
room in the house for writing. Luckily, aside from the house itself, very 
little was lost-only my computer and several boxes of documents. 

As I was sifting through the ashes of what used to be my bedroom, 
however, I realized things were starting to get out of hand. By then, under 
the Likud government of Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, both the 
Israeli ambassador to the U.S. and the Israeli ambassador to Canada 
were former Mossad officers. I couldn't identify the perpetrators of the fire,
or blame it on one group or another, but it was clear to me that those who 
had vowed to break me "economically" were becoming more 
confrontational and taking greater risks. 

After several days of soul-searching I realized I could no longer allow my 
wife, who had stood by me through thick and thin, to remain in the line of 
fire. This was my battle, my choice. Knowing full well she would not 
abandon me, as almost everyone else had, I told her I needed to be 
alone, to sort out things for myself. 

Our separation lasted several weeks. But we both realized we couldn't 
remain apart. 

So I wasted no more time and re-wrote The Spy Game, having kept my 
notes on Regnery's suggested revisions with me. The work on the book 
was moving along well, and most of the editing had already been 
completed. The publisher, through his project editor, asked that I add a 
chapter on espionage and the Internet and also bring in some 
biographical material on myself. I complied and he expressed his 
satisfaction in a letter to me. 

On July 9 of this year the Regnery publicity department faxed me a copy 
of their catalog page depicting my book, slated to be released in October. 
One day later, on July 10, 1997, I received a letter from Regnery 
informing me that the company had decided not to publish my book. I felt 
as though I had been hit by a freight train. 

It suddenly occurred to me, for the first time, that the forces of racism, 
bigotry and apartheid may win, even here in North America. In calling out, 
finally, for help, I suddenly fear that I may only be shouting into the wind. 

To all who believe that "it can't happen here," I say beware. 

It is immensely satisfying to take a stand and speak out against coercion 
and tyranny. But eventually there may be a price to pay. 

And when that day comes, and the bill is handed out, you may find that 
although your friends cherish you, they may choose to do it from a 
distance. I wonder now if the thousands who have called and written still 
think of me as a prophet and a hero, or only as a fool? 


Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad caseworker in Israel, is author of By 
Way of Deception and The Other Side of Deception about his personal 
observations within Israel's external security service. Both books are 
listed in the AET Book Club Catalog.
"




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On 30 Mar 2007 23:27:30 -0700, in can.politics "Antigone"
 wrote:

The media bosses who cover up heinous crimes committed by
fellow members of their tribe are the most evil of all. It
is an absolute DISASTER having a criminalistic ethnic gang,
called La Kosher Nostra by some, run the mass media in the
U.S. and other Western countries.

		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In the past I've talked about the breakdown of law and order in Russia
in the wake of communist rule. The communists -- which is to say, the
Jews -- sucked the country dry and then headed for greener pastures.
At least most of them did. Some Jews stayed behind to squeeze still
more blood out of the Russian people. In several reports we've looked
at the trade in White sex slaves centered in Israel. Jewish organized
crime gangs kidnap Russian and Ukrainian girls -- or in some cases
lure them to Israel with the promise of employment as secretaries or
housekeepers or nannies -- and then force them to work as sex slaves
in Jewish brothels.

Other Jewish crime gangs in Russia exploit Russian children for the
pedophile market around the world. I reported on October 7, 2000, the
breakup of a child pornography ring operating from Moscow and selling
videos of Russian children, some of them only two or three years old,
being raped, sexually tortured, and even murdered. There actually are
perverts who obtain sexual gratification from viewing such horrors,
and child pornography is big business. The child-porn videos coming
>from Moscow sell for hundreds or even thousands of dollars to
pedophiles in the West. The pornographers in Moscow obtain children
>from Russian orphanages by bribing corrupt administrators at the
orphanages, or they simply kidnap them from public parks or
playgrounds. My report of October 7, 2000, was based on the breakup of
one child-porn operation in Moscow after an investigation by Italian
police and postal officials of the shipment of videos from Russia to
pedophiles in Italy. In that report I quoted from a Reuters news
dispatch datelined Naples, Italy, September 27. I'll read you again
what I quoted in my report:

"Police said on Wednesday they had arrested eight Italians suspected
of belonging to a child-pornography ring that traded videos over the
Internet, including films of Russian children who were abused to
death. Police specializing in Internet crime told reporters that their
19-month investigation had given them enough information to begin
investigations into 1,700 people suspected of buying the material over
the Web. . . . They said three people in Moscow ran an operation to
kidnap children from orphanages, circuses, and public parks and film
them while they were forced to commit sexual acts. Police said they
had intercepted some 3,000 tapes and CDs and digital video discs of
child pornography, including some involving children only several
months old." -- end of quote --

These arrests were big news in Italy, where TV newsmen horrified
millions of Italians by broadcasting excerpts from of a couple of the
child-porn videos on a prime-time national television news program. I
reported that the newsmen responsible for the broadcast were
immediately fired by the news director of the government-run network,
Gad Lerner, a Jew, who obviously was very unhappy that the news had
gotten out.

Perverts in the United States also buy child-porn videos from Russia,
and I commented in my report of October 7, 2000, that in the United
States there was practically a media blackout on the Italian
investigation and the subsequent arrests in Italy and in Russia. But
there was an Associated Press release on September 29, two days after
the arrests. I'll quote a few lines from that release:

". . . [P]olice said they had broken up an online international child-
pornography ring, arrested eight Italians and three Russians, and
seized thousands of videos and photographs. The Russian-run ring,
which distributed an explicit catalog on the Internet, catered to
clients in the United States, Germany, and Italy. Its inventory
included films of children being tortured and killed. . . .
Investigators say the pornography ring produces and distributes images
showing children as young as two years old being sexually abused. Some
of the victims reportedly were stolen from orphanages, others from
families. Its catalog offers films of killings for about $20,000 and
images of people having sex with children for about half that." -- end
quote -- That Associated Press release from September 29, 2000, was
virtually ignored by news media in the United States.

Then on January 4 of last year a man described by Federal authorities
as the U.S. West Coast distributor for a child-pornography ring
operating in Moscow was arrested in Walnut Creek, California. That was
Seth Bekenstein, a Jew. And at the time I thought, "At last! Now the
media cannot avoid reporting this filthy business to the American
people. There will be a hearing and a trial for Bekenstein, and the
whole story will come out."

But of course, the story didn't come out. The mass media did avoid
reporting anything about Bekenstein's arrest or his trial. Even the
big newspapers in California were silent. The American public remained
completely ignorant of the whole business.

Do you understand what Bekenstein was doing? He was selling films to
thousands of American perverts that showed Russian children and
infants being raped, sexually tortured, and murdered. He was a part of
the operation that kidnapped, raped, sexually tortured, and murdered
these Russian children. Without people like Bekenstein to sell the
films, the business couldn't have operated. He was placing wholesale
orders to Moscow for more films, new films, and wiring the money that
kept the operation going. He was as guilty as the people who actually
did the kidnapping, raping, torture, and murder.

Well, last month, on January 4, exactly a year after his arrest, Seth
Bekenstein, who has been out of jail on bond the whole time, was
sentenced to 18 months imprisonment after pleading guilty. That's just
18 months for being a major part of an operation involving the most
horrific criminal activity imaginable -- 18 months for raping,
torturing, and murdering hundreds of  children for the gratification
of unspeakably perverted freaks. And there still hasn't been a peep
about Bekenstein or the child-pornography operation in which he was
engaged in any major media outlets in the United States. So far as the
TV-watching public is concerned it never happened.

Imagine how differently the Bekenstein case would have been handled by
the courts if the Jews had decided that it served their interests to
make a cause celebre of it. Imagine what would have happened to
Bekenstein if the Jewish media had given him the 1998 Jasper, Texas,
treatment. Gruesome excerpts from the films he was peddling would be
shown on prime-time TV in America night after night. TV crews would
have interviewed some of Bekenstein's customers and had them tell
everyone how much they enjoyed seeing little girls or little boys
sexually tortured. There would have been tearful interviews with the
Russian parents of some of the kidnapped children. The Jews would have
kept this up week after week and month after month, until the lemmings
all across America finally had gotten it and were screaming for
Bekenstein's blood.

And, behold!, the Federal prosecutor would have seen the light and
realized that Bekenstein had not only violated a law against sending
child porn through the mail, he also was guilty of kidnapping, rape,
and murder. And the judge would have seen the light too. And
Bekenstein would be sitting on death row now, hoping that the other
inmates didn't get their hands on him before he got his lethal
injection.

But the Jewish media bosses had no interest in punishing their fellow
tribesman for his exploitation of Russian children. After all, the
children were only Gentiles, only goyim. And their fellow tribesmen in
Israel were making a very good living in the sex-slave trade,
exploiting the older sisters of these Russian children. Why stir
things up? And they didn't even have to tell the prosecutor and the
judge in the Bekenstein case to take it easy on Seth. The court system
already has become so corrupted in America that the prosecutor and the
judge understood without being told that they shouldn't be too hard on
Bekenstein. And now this depraved monster will be back in business
again in a few months.

I'll sum it up for you: our whole system of laws and government in
America has become media-driven. Until we drag the filthy creatures
controlling the mass media of news and entertainment out of their
offices and drive stakes through their hearts, the system will only
become more and more corrupt.



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Even the media are carrying lots of news stories about this ripoff!

With canuck buck around 94 cents US$, the swindle is getting obscene.

No wonder more people are ordering books and music from the USa on ebay,
amazon, and the like!!

On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:58:57 GMT, MattKern 
wrote:
>On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 11:03:55 -0700, "DetectorTHX11:59:01"  wrote:
>>Leftists = traitors  wrote in message
>>news:1154710281.114348.317630@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>> $37.00 for a book that costs $24.99 U.S.  Our dollars are within 10% of
>>> each other.
>>> Book prices haven't changed since our dollar was worth $0.63 U.S.  Of
>>> course, we KNOW who owns Chapters-Indigo and they dictate to the publishers.
>>> Their excuse that "you can't tool up that fast" as to why they can't
>>> re-price books falls on deaf ears.  It does NOT take YEARS to rectify prices. F--- The Reitmans and
>>> their cabal.

>>They are part of Israhells fifth column in Canada, and are intertwined with
>>the globalist Bilderberg gangsters.  They should be watched in case they are
>>involved in any Mossad activities like stealing Canadian passports and
>>spying.  They could be sending and recieving more than books.

>And the ZYDS wonder why Canadians resent being JEWED, as per dictionary
>definition!!



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When your taxes go skyhigh on your tax bills this month, never forget that
part of it is due to incompetent slime such as LOWRY of EPCOR, and his
negligence in costing Edmonton users an extra $450,000!!


>On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:18:03 GMT, JimMcCarthy
> wrote:

>>Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was 
>>on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!

>>Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!

>>Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammer, deserves to get swindled.


>>On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
>> wrote:
>>>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
>>> wrote:

>>>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!

>>>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck onto some
>>>junior staffer?

>>>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>>>he is respondible?

>>>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>>>to make up for his negligence?



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Glad to see that the finance and collections manager for Leduc was 
on his toes, and did the job for which he gets paid!!

Time to FIRE Lowry, after recovering the $450 Grand from his pay!!

Anyone stupid enough to hire this scammer, deserves to get swindled.


On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:34:46 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
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>On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:04:02 GMT, LordTweedsmuir
> wrote:

>>The Journal for today, Wednesday 20 September 2006, reports that EPCOR
>>management failed to pay a bill in connection with their power plant, and
>>consequently had to pay a penalty of $450,000!!

>Will Lowry get FIRED for his negligence, or will he pass the buck on some
>junior staffer?

>>Will he be required to pay this penalty, out of his salary and bonuses, since
>>he is respondible?

>>Or, will he try to get the Utilities Board to raise rates to EPCOR customers
>>to make up for his negligence?



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I doubt that even the fags would bother visiting Canada, 
not even to get a fag "marriage"

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:20:02 GMT, PureVenom 
wrote:

>This should do wonders for the airlines considering landing at the Leduc
>moosepasture with idiots for WEM from Europe!!

>Looks like a very lean summer for the tourist slime in STABmonton, if suckers
>from Europe continue the boycott!!


>On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:18:38 GMT, RevPhelps 
>wrote:

>>In a headline news story today published across Canada, German and 
>>Dutch tour operators will now start to boycott Canada.

>>This is part of a protest against Canada cancelling GST rebates for foreign
>>visitors. As many tour operators stated, "We simply can not afford to lose
>>money on bookings to Canada."

>>European tour operators, because of EU regulations, are unable to pass on to
>>their customers increases in costs, such as being forced to pay the Canadian
>>GST without being able to recover from the Canadian government.

>>The Tourism Industry Association of Canada is very disappointed with the tour
>>operators for their decision to pull out of Rendez-vous Canada.

>>It is a public relations and marketing challenge, president Randy Williams
>>claims.

>>Coming on the heels of all the bad news for tourism in Canada - the
>>over-priced Canuck dollar, SARS, post-911 strict travel security measures at
>>airports, confusion over the US passport rules, and significant crime problems
>>in places such as Edmonton Canada, tourism across Canada will really feel the
>>effect of the boycott.

>>It is expected that Caribbean destinations, Australia, and even South America
>>should all benefit from the stupidity of the Canadian government.



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In May, the crooks in the city Tax Assessment Department mail out the
fictitous assessments for taxation for this year.

Jew mare Mandel, featured on TV, was chortling when he stated that tax hikes
this year will be from 20% to 100%!!

If you feel that the assessment for your property is TOO HIGH, while some
neighbours are deliberately UNDER-ASSESSED, then file an appeal!!
If you are angry enough, let everyone know, and tell us on the newsgroups.

Perhaps if there is enough publicity about these crooks, the city will finally
have to fire a few more, and hire some honest assessors!

All city home assessments are readily available on the internet, for easy
comparison.

Don't let yourself get JEWED by the crooks on the city payroll.
Expose them, as Grosvenor did about the lawyer's property, detailed below.

The lawyer even had his property up for city tax sale, this year, for unpaid
taxes, April 27 2006!!


On 29 Jun 2005 15:16:21 -0700, "Brian Boulanger"
 wrote:

>One MUST wonder - was it bribery, graft, corruption or what, that this
>lawyer got a donation from the city tax department of a HALF MILLION
>DOLLARS each year deliberately UNDER-ASSESSED, while honest taxpayers
>got the shaft/got screwed!!

>Perhaps criminal charges should be considered against those city staff
>responsible, for the massive under-collection of proper tax revenues
>for 8 years? Particularly since it took a courageous taxpayer to force
>this scam into the courts and into the open!


>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>From: "Brian Boulanger"  - Find messages
>by this author
>Date: 27 Jun 2005 18:19:01 -0700
>Local: Mon,Jun 27 2005 8:19 pm
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>It seems that now that the City Auditor-General has his teeth into this
>notorious expose, more heads in the City Tax Assessment Department will
>be getting chopped, besides those staff already terminated.

>The notorious William Grosvenor took the city to tax court, and exposed
>the situation where a well-known lawyer's property was improperly
>UNDERASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS - at $149,500, when the
>lawyer's own documentation declared a value of $600,000!!

>Only now, after the courageous expose, is the property properly
>assessed at $651,000!!

>For 8 years the lawyer got off, while taxpayers who did pay their share
>had to make up the difference.

>Everyone involved in the cover-up, and scam, should not only be fired,
>but prosecuted for criminality as well!


>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics
>From: Mike McWilliams  -
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:20:14 -0600
>Subject: APPEAL YOUR TAXES! Don't Get Jewed By Crooks In City Tax
>Dept.!

>If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4% inflation
>certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim of the crooks
>running Deadmonton?!!

>If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled to
>do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against the
>City,win!!

>Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>employed by the city??
>Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is getting overpaid?


>From: heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>Newsgroups:
>edm.general,edm.politics,ab.ge­­neral,ab.politics,can.general
>Subject: Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO
>GET TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to what
>it should be.

>This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and probably
>$608,000!!!

>Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone has
>the guts to force the issue into a court.

>How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?

>heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>...

>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear before
>> the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!
>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM THE
>> CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!
>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!
>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?

>> heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message ...
>> > City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>> > value.
>> > It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in writing,
>> > was $600,000!!

>> > No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>> > why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>> > This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>> > massive tax hikes!!

>> > No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>> > Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax revolt.
>> > > Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>> > > irregularities involving the city tax department.
>> > > Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an out-of-court
>> > > settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal closure
>> > > of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>> > > One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax assessment hike
>> > > this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence that
>> > > business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the businesses!!
>> > > The right hand did not know what the left did.....

>> > > starwars  wrote in message ...
>> > > > Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>> > > > massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is knowingly
>> > > > under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!
>> > > > This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be worth
>> > > > at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is huge,has
>> > > > law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second floor was
>> > > > assessed last year for less than a quarter of value,for only
>> > > > $148,000!!
>> > > > After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal Court last
>> > > > year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now this year it is
>> > > > assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000 UNDER-ASSESSED!!
>> > > > At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!
>> > > > Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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When TWO Jew media - Canadian Jew News, and Jewish Telegraph Agency 
both report the story, it must be true!!

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 18:25:51 GMT, scott@free.info wrote:

>Yehuda Bauer on the Wannsee Conference

>THE CANADIAN JEWISH NEWS, Jan. 30, 1992 

>Wannsee's importance rejected 
>London (JTA) - An Israeli Holocaust scholar has debunked the Wannsee
>Conference, at which top Nazi officials are said to have gathered at a
>villa in a Berlin suburb in 1942 to draw the blueprints of the "Final
>Solution." 

>According to Prof. Yehuda Bauer (photo) of the Hebrew University in
>Jerusalem, Wannsee was a meeting, "but hardly a conference", and
>"little of what was said there was executed in detail." 

>"The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at
>Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at."



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On 20 May 2006 12:13:41 -0700, bcpg@canada.com wrote:
>Why did HELLBERTA give Harpo the loon 28 SEATS if they are so dead
>against the Conservatives?

Because at that time, people actually believed Harpo, and hoped for an
improvement over the Lieberals.

Now that seniors have seen that Harpo doesn't give a damn about them, 
seniors will vote against the Purely Constipated party!!

Any one but PC!!


>Haunting Klein wrote:
>> It seems that the Alberta PCs will soon be as extinct as the dinosaurs
>> of Alberta they so well resemble.

>> A few good reasons why the anti-PC backlash is taking place, not only by seniors,
>> but also by ordinary taxpayers.

>> 1.	Klein and gang for too long took the Alberta seniors for granted, and screwed
>> them at every chance they could.

>> Seniors have not forgotten the removal of the $1,200 a year reduction of city taxes!
>> Seniors have not forgotten the massive reduction in seniors' health benefits!

>> 2.	Seniors now know that the Municipal Government Board is there to further screw
>> seniors who appeal their city tax assessments.
>> It seems that to be an MGB judge equivalent, all one has to be is an old fart,
>> with no knowledge of the law, business, or taxes.
>> But one must kiss Ralph's butt frequently!

>> 3.	Seniors did not forget that Ralph gave his ZYD buddies Triple5 $440 MILLION from ATB,
>> which is money from the taxpayers, at the same time that Ralph was busy shafting seniors!!

>> 4.	Ralph is busy giving millions to the filthy rich horse owners, and other sports
>> activities, while he rips off the seniors every way he can.

>> And then King Ralph pouts when his approval rating deservedly plummets!
>> Time for an honest hard working replacement, not another dinosaur like Manning either!
>> If only the Libertarians were running for election in Alberta, instead of staying in Toronto!!


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>> Lawyers, politicians, crooked cops, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant



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On 30 May 2006 16:57:18 -0700, "His Divine Shadow" 
wrote:
>Asterix wrote:
>> When places like Edmonton get worldwide publicity for POLICE TORTURING
>> INNOCENT CIVILIANS; punk kids murder bus passenger and cops don't
>> bother to attend for over half an hour; many cops now charged with
>> tasering people; all the hooligans amok on Whyte Avenue while cops
>> stand by with fingers up their butts.

>FEAR! UNCERTANTY! DOUBT!

I guess you can not afford to get newspapers, nor do you have a TV.

The media for the past few months have been reporting so many incidents of
crooked cops in Edmonton, one must wonder whether there are any HONEST 
cops in that place.

Even the former police chief had to be fired for just cause.

Then, TV showed all the goons in town rioting, smashing store windows, setting
fires in the streets, and basically looking like somewhere in darkest Africa.

Would any sane person want to go there as a tourist?
Of course, not!


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Yesterday's TV news reported that the young man shot last week by police, was
running away, when police fired 6 shots into his back!!

Guess the crooked cops did not want a live wirness to their criminality? The
victim is still in intensive care in hospital, hanging on to life.

Yet another documented case of police brutality was reported in the Edmonton
Journal, page B2, on 1st July 2006.

Cst. Jan Cichon was finally charged with criminal assault, by his own police
department, for brutalising another innocent civilian.


The Edmonton Journal for yesterday 29 June 2006 had a full page of letters to
the editor complaining about the police brutality!!

These comments are apart from concern by the taxpayers regarding the supposed
extra $2.2MILLION cost claimed by the new police chief.
Guess his undercover rioters did not come cheap?
Is this part of the reason Toronto refused repeatedly to give Mike Boyd the
position of Chief Cop?

Chief Boyd admits that there are at least 35 unresolved complaints filed
against his police in connection with police brutality over the past week or
so!


On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:17:52 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>The local media had a great day publicising the torture of a young woman by
>another rogue Edmonton cop!!

>This Gestapo-like thug was photographed by several reporters, while he beat
>the handcuffed young lady and threw her face onto the pavement, breaking open
>her face!

>In another incident the same night, a 66 year old lawyer , Brian Fish, was
>tasered illegally, for taking pictures of police brutality. He is now laying
>charges against the cops involved.

>And the police chief seems to be doing nothing about all his crooked cops!
>Is this why Mike Boyd was refused the Chief's position in Toronto?

>Guess Chief Boyd was too busy wasting $2,200,000 of taxpayers money 
>setting up his thugs to torture civilians?

>Mind you, the inept cops still have not caught the serial killer of more than
>100 prostitutes, or even the killers of another 2 people this week!!


>On 2006-06-19 11:53:03 -0400, Boadicea  said:

>> The Edmonton Journal for today - 19 June 2006 - carries 2 pages full
>> of photos showing the Edmonton Gestapo TORTURING a woman, who was not 
>> resisting!!

>> Guess the crooked cops forgot that there are people taking
>> photographs?

>> And the jew mayor sees nothing wrong with police brutality.
>> Guess he belongs to the kill-a palestinian school of torture?

>> And they wonder why tourists around the world are starting to avoid
>> visiting UNSAFE Canada!!



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Jeff, dear fool, the story is completely true, and correct.

Whether  you work for Sears, or not, may all your personal ID be obtained 
by an identity thief, so that you may understand the problem.


On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:04:37 GMT, "Jeff Stapleton" 
wrote:
>"Nemesis"  wrote in message 
>news:REM5A56038898.528287037@twistycreek.com...
>> It seems that Sears in Canada is illegally distributing personal data of 
>> its' customers.

>> A charge has been filed with the Alberta Privacy Commissioner, proving 
>> that a major Sears store in Edmonton illegally provided personal confidential 
>> information of  a customer, to someone who was most definitely NOT the customer. 
>> The Alberta government  is prosecuting, to teach Sears that they are not above the law.

>> This situation came to light when the victim received in the mail, from an 
>> anonymous source,  the actual store copy of the receipt involved.

>> HIS personal info including 2 unlisted phone numbers were clearly printed 
>> on the invoice  receipt, together with ther actual customer's VISA card number.
>> Someone had even written on the bill, "wrong number", but the customer was 
>> still given all the details of the original Sears customer.

>> In other words, one MUST NOT TRUST SEARS!


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)


>yo spammer give it up already 




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If those replying want to financially support the overpaid millionaires, then
let them.

But NO TAXPAYER MONEY for these overpriced thugs!!

On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 17:23:27 GMT, NotMyName 
wrote:

>If the stupid Oilers can pay Pronger $6 MILLION, and he still wants to
>leave Deadmonton, then let the Oilers pay themselves for a new rink,
>not taxpayers!!

>If the Oilers can pay Roloson $11 MILLION, then they can afford to pay
>for their own rink!!

>After all, the Oilers is a BUSINESS, so let them survive, if at all,
>by satisfying their actual customers.

>If they don't, then let them go under, just like Woodwards, Eatons,
>Debajis, and other businesses. With what they pay their thugs,
>players, they are most definitely NOT A CHARITY, or even a city
>service!!


>On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:11:40 -0600, Harry Mazal 
>wrote:

>>With the taxpayers already being JEWED OUT OF $2.5 MILLION A YEAR TO SUBSIDIZE
>>FOR THE NEXT 9 YEARS THESE OVERPAID HOCKEY THUGS, WHY SHOULD WE 
>>GIVE THEM ONE BLOODY NICKEL MORE!!

>>LET THEM GET THE MONEY NEEDED FROM THEIR SUCCKERS/SUPPORTERS, not taxpayers!

>>On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 10:47:48 -0600, "TopPoster"  wrote:

>>>> news:fle0k1l6hc3dsgh7lgkvilhdqf2st41637@4ax.com...
>
>>>> > Saw the headline on the front page of today's Edmonton Journal.
>
>>>> > Possibility that, ten years from now, the Oilers could be moving into a
>>>> > new arena.
>
>>>> > While they have nine years left to run in their lease on Rexall Place,
>>>> > they could be looking for a bit of choice real estate to build a bigger
>>>> > arena with seating for more Edmonton fans.  (I'm working on the
>>>> > assumption here that the Edmonton Investors Group plans to keep the team
>>>> > in Edmonton indefinietly.)
>
>>>> > Assuming no unexpected downturn in the Alberta economy, it is reasonable
>>>> > to expect that by that time Edmonton will be a much larger city than it
>>>> > is today.
>
>>>> > So where to put a new arena.  (I'm guessing sharx would prefer
>>>> > Duggan--because then he'd be guaranteed a new LRT station close to sharx
>>>> > manor.)
>
>>>> Well, I have no objection to a new hockey arena AS LONG AS not one FUCKING
>>>> cent of public funds goes into building it or maintaining it. The fucking
>>>> owners group gets all the profit and the fucking owners group will get all
>>>> the profit from the EVENTUAL sale of the team. Under the current
>>>contracts,
>>>> the owners group has no legal obligation to pay back one FUCKING cent of
>>>> that TWO MILLION a year the city has been paying Northlands SO THAT THE
>>>> FUCKING SPOILERS can use Rexall Place. Do I make myself abundantly FUCKING
>>>> clear?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > --
>>>> > John Fleming
>>>> > Edmonton, Canada
>>
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N.B. AS OF 15 AUGUST 2007, one need no longer visit either these incompetent
bookkeepers, or anyone else  to sign as a guarantor!1

As of that date, all you need do is provide the names and addresses of two
people who have known you for at least 2 years.


On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:28:36 -0400, "Gary Renzetti" 
wrote:

>Frank,
>You are posting absolute horseshit.
>A Canadian bookkeeper can NOT "guarantor" a passport application, period! 

Unqualified bookkeepers, with no training, but who pay the $200 fee, and join
the Society of Professional Accountants run by Laura Waters, are now permitted
by the Canadian government to sign as guarantors for passports.

In fact, CGA Alberta also accepted 52 unqualified bookkeepers in 1988 as
members when they paid their fees, and these unqualified bookkeepers are 
also allowed to sign as passport guarantors!!

Is this how Israel is now getting lots of passports for their MOSSAD
criminals?


>Saying that, a Canadian accountant *can*, which sticks in my tookis. 
>Somehow, the Canadian government thinks that an accountant is more 
>trustworthy than a Canadian-born bricklayer or for that matter, a 
>Canadian-born prostitute (say what?). Accountants, in my experience with the 
>breed, are a helluva lot less honest than either bricklayers or whores.

On this point you will get no argument from me.
Just look at all the massive commercial frauds in Canada and the USa, all
involving prominent accounting firms!!

That is why CA stands for CROOKED ACCOUNTANT!!


>How the fuck does a university education make someone a reliable, 
>trustworthy person?

>"Frank Arthur"  wrote in message 
>news:obfaa2pmokcjfs1iq4ss2ur2n5jfrbao97@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:36:57 -0700, Adenoid Heinkel
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Not just the US authorities, but also those throughout Europe as well
>> as Asia should be highly suspicious of ALL Canadian passports and
>> their holders.
>>
>> Not only are unqualified bookkeepers , WHO HAVE NO UNIVERSITY
>> OR SIMILARTLY APPROVED COURSES OF INSTRUCTION!,approved
>> by the Canadiangovernment to guarantee people applying for a Canadian
>> passport, but do not forget the many tens of thousands of Canadian 
>> passports
>> supposed "LOST" each year by the Canadian Passport department.
>>
>> Quite apart from the thousands of passports fabricated by the
>> Israelis!!
>>
>> Now, the USA will require that Canadians entering the USA  as of next year
>> must also have a valid passport.
>>
>> With lax guarantors in Canada, no wonder the US authorities, and in New
>> Zealand are concerned!!
>>
>> Notice that the traditional bookkeepers/accountants are not objecting to
>> including these unqualified bookkeepers as being the same as CA,CGA,CMA.
>>
>> Could this be because the older groups are too busy fighting all the 
>> lawsuits
>> for CRIMINAL fraud involving their members=CA,CGA?
>>
>> The CAs and CGAs do not care that the unqualified PA, APA and RPA , all of
>> whom have no university education or similar qualifications for their
>> competency, are now equal in status to gurantee Canadian passports,
>> since all are now equal in non-credibility!!
>>
>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:57:24 -0700, dandelion 
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>No wonder the INS makes it difficult for Canadians to enter the USA.
>>
>>>>They should make it even harder,especially since thousands of Canadian
>>>>passports are stolen with ease each year from Canadian Government
>>>>offices, as admitted regularly to media!!
>>
>>>>On 26 Sep 2004 12:20:32 -0700, heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net
>>>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:
>>
>>>>>A qualified Engineer wonders about the so-called standards for a
>>>>>Guarantor for a Canadian Passport.
>>
>>>>>Read the article following HIS posting, then complain to your MP.
>>
>>>>>From: "HCH" 
>>>>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
>>>>>Subject: The Passport Guarantor
>>>>>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:19:31 -0400
>>
>>>>>The information required on the Canadian Passport Application Forms is
>>>>>weird. This Declaration of Guarantor is really bizarre. Being a
>>>>>Professional Engineer (I'm retired now), born outside Canada but a
>>>>>Canadian Citizen, makes me MORE trustworthy than a full-blooded
>>>>>Canadian who is an Electrician or Carpenter or with whatever trade.
>>>>>The Application form tells me that a person BORN in Canada and a
>>>>>trades-person can NOT be trusted; it also tells me that a person with
>>>>>a professional states + and only 3 years in Canada + a Canadian
>>>>>citizen CAN be trusted (corrupt or not). Hello, that looks to me as
>>>>>PURE discrimination. Which THINKING TANK added such a stupid
>>>>>requirement? They must have been at that day brain-dead. Then further
>>>>>down the application form TWO more persons are required to vouch for
>>>>>you. No Passport for you if don't want to involve anyone.
>>
>>>>>ENOUGH TO CAUSE US IMMIGRATION TO BAR CANADIANS!!
>>>>>Newsgroups: can.legal,can.general,tor.general,
>>>>>soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
>>>>>Subject: Canada Passport Guarantors-WHY Unqualified Bookkeepers!!
>>
>>>>>Info provided as courtesy to public, under FOI.
>>
>>>>>Good Morning
>>
>>>>>I just had a call from the passport office in Ottawa and the PA's have
>>>>>been officially approved as guarantors for passports as of March 3, 
>>>>>2003.
>>>>>
>>>>>As the passport office has a loggin to our website to electronically
>>>>>check for current paid up members, please make sure that all information 
>>>>>on
>>>>>your website listing is correct and up to date and that your account is 
>>>>>in
>>>>>good standing.
>>
>>>>>Laura Waters-Taverner, PA
>>>>>President
>>
>>>>>MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP (professional accountants) ARE NOT RECOGNISED AS
>>>>>QUALIFIED ACCOUNTANTS, BY THE GOVERNMENT OF ALBERTA, WHO ONLY
>>>>>RECOGNISE CA, CGA, AND CMA!!
>>
>>>>>The Canadian Passport Office has no business allowing these
>>>>>unqualified bookkeepers to be Guarantors for Passports, when even the 
>>>>>province
>>>>>does not recognise them as qualified accountants!!
>>
>>>>>In fact, these people could even be guaranteeing for undesirable,
>>>>>criminals, terrorists and others that the USA would like to keep
>>>>>from entering the USA!!
>>
>>>>>The phone for MICHAEL HUTTON, Director Passport Canada is:
>>>>>1-819-994-3530
>>
>>>>>Even qualified, investigated Commissioners for Oaths are not permitted
>>>>>as Guarantors for Passports, while unqualified, unvetted bookkeepers
>>>>>are!!
>>
>>>>>The US INS are now really getting annoyed with Canada, and Canadian
>>>>>passports.
>>>>>They claim that criminals, dope dealers, and even terrorists will now
>>>>>find it even easier to get Canadian passports.
>>
>>>>>It seems Passports Canada just does not give a damn!!!
>>
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Now that the PCs are planning to implement a 3 strikes law, 
why not also re-introduce the DP?

On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, "princeandy"  wrote:

>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.

> >There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
> >of televising executions.
 
> >A few more thoughts on the subject.

> >The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
> >execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
> >VICTIMS of the criminals executed.

> >The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
> >not only determine the method of execution, but should also
> >have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.
  
> >Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
> >but not limited to such, would include:
> >         rapists
> >         drug dealers
> >         AIDS spreaders
> >         home invaders
> >         armed robbers
> >         pederasts and similar child molesters
> >         crooked liars/lawyers
> >         corrupt judges
> >         corrupt politicians
> >         insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
> >         members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
> >         useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
> >              criminals being released
 
> >Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
> >  any spreader of any disease,including STD - this would
> >     obviously  include most faggots
> >  white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
> >     dollars  (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
> >     how they would   exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)
  
> >More suggestions for both categories are invited.
  
> >Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:
  
> >         crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
> >         vivisection
> >         medical experiments without anaesthetic
> >         target practice for police and military
> >         beheading
> >         hanging
> >         barbecueing by electrocution
> >         drawing & quartering  
> >Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
> >	guillotining, very popular in France
> >	flaying alive until dead
> >	stoning to death - popular in some jurisdictions
 
> >Suggestions are invited, on all the above points.





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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, "princeandy"  wrote:

>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.

A lot of good ideas!

Now definitely needed for the members of the pedofilia party in
Holland!!

Also, for judges in Canada releasing repeat child molesters!!


On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:06:56 -0600, Ken McVaySOBC
 wrote:

>Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have approved
>special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags!!

>In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get their just
>punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!


>>DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags!!

>>This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
>>since many US states, and foreign countries are
>>starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.

>>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
>>of televising executions.

>>A few more thoughts on the subject.

>>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
>>VICTIMS of the criminals executed.

>>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
>>not only determine the method of execution, but should also
>>have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.

>>Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
>>but not limited to such, would include:
>
>>         AIDS spreaders
>>         rapists
>>         drug dealers
>>         home invaders
>>         armed robbers
>>         pederasts and similar child molesters
>>         crooked liars/lawyers
>>         corrupt judges
>>         corrupt politicians
>>         insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
>>         members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
>>         useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
>>              criminals being released
>>Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
>>         any spreader of any disease,including STD - this would
>>                obviously  include most faggots
>>        white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
>>                dollars  (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
>>                how they would   exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)


>>Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:

>>         crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
>>         vivisection
>>         medical experiments without anaesthetic
>>         target practice for police and military
>>         beheading
>>         hanging
>>         barbecueing by electrocution
>>         drawing & quartering

>>Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
>>	guillotining, very popular in France
>>	flaying alive until dead
>>	stoning to death - popular in some jurisdictions

>>More suggestions for both categories are invited.


>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant

>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431

>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.

>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473


>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:27:02 -0600, "Robert Sveinson"
>> wrote:
>>>"Roedy Green"  wrote in message
>>>news:81ptr0pj2ibnkktvdlh3ngrr09jgjih5d9@4ax.com...
>>>> The Iraqis are hopelessly outgunned, yet to everyone's surprise that
>>>> tiny country has held the biggest military in the world at bay.

>>>> One of their most successful techniques has been beheadings, and
>>>> releasing videos. This creates maximum horror with minimal loss of
>>>> life.

>>>> I think they could improve on the productions to make clear they are
>>>> in retaliation.

>>>> So I think the next beheading video should be spliced or split screen
>>>> with shots of dozens of people Americans have beheaded with their
>>>> bombs and machine gun fire.

>>>> I think they should branch out from beheadings, partly because
>>>> beheadings are too unreal.  They need something the man in the street
>>>> can more relate to.

>>>> I suggest, removing fingernails and toenails, removing or splitting
>>>> the penis, crushing the testicles in a vice, gouging out an eye with
>>>> a popsicle stick, allowing rats to nibble, nails through the hands and
>>>> feet, throwing darts at a target painted on the stomach, rubbing
>>>> rotting dead baby corpse goo over Americans stretched naked and then
>>>> slashing with knives to create gangrenous infections to be
>>>> photographed in stop motion, squeezing lemon juice into wounds.

>>>> Play with common phobias, e.g. spiders, snakes, scorpions, rats,
>>>> heights. E.g. video falling to death from a tall building with cameras
>>>> situated at top, bottom and attached to the victim.

>>>> Since Bush started the sexual abuse, and condones child rape, how
>>>> about killing a man with ever larger things shoved up his ass, pounded
>>>> home with a sledgehammer till he splits like a watermelon.

>>>> Of course any such violence must be justified by showing video of at
>>>> least a dozen instances of Americans doing something similar first.

>>>> "Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
>>>> Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
>>>> nor of Mussolini."
>>>> ~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
>>>>   on Bush's atrocities in the Iraq war.

>>>> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
>>>> See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes




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In a banner headline story across page B1 of the Edmonton Journal for 21 July
2006, Statistics Canada reports that Edmonton Canada is now the crime capital
of Canada!

The Edmonton region homicide/murder rate is documented at 4.3 per 100,000
people, compared to only 2.0 for crime-ridden Toronto!!

And, the Edmonton stats do not include bodies found outside the area, from the
notorious Edmonton serial killer of 107 female prostitiutes!

And the city wonders why it is getting such bad international publicity,
mainly caused by the crooked cops, who apparently can not even catch a cold,
let alone the serial murderer, who is suspected by many, to be either a cop,
judge or criminologist.


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In the Edmonton Journal front page [Thursday 23 November 2006] the police
chief is quoted as saying that this year's murder rate will be the third in a
row, increasing each year.

In other words, the imported now chief, is USELESS!!

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:13:09 GMT, ProBonoPublico
 wrote:
>On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 11:30:24 GMT, enquiring minds 
>wrote:
>>Roedy Green wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 19:24:43 GMT, ProBonoPublico
>>>  wrote, quoted or indirectly
>>> quoted someone who said :

>>> > Edmonton Canada is now the crime capital
>>> >of Canada!

>>key of course, is what crimes and how long people go to jail if
>>convicted of them.
>>I think your average murder spends 3 years in jail today whereas in the
>>1970s it was about 10 to 15 years.  That is a huge savings to taxpayers when you think of
>>prison as costing about 200 or more dollars to keep someone in it for a day.

>Judges in Edmonton regulalrly release killers, without any jail time at all!!

>Last week 3 punks involved in the murder of a teenager, got no jail time, just
>probabtion!!

>A former city engineer, stunting with his corvette who killed an innocent
>pedestrian, also got no jail time because he was a supposedly good citizen.

>Hell, a so-called judge, T.D.Clackson even ruled that a convicted murderer in
>the Max Prison should be allowed to have a shiv, for his protection against
>the guards!! {Kerr case]. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled basically that
>Clackson was nuts, and overturned his ruling!!



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On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:17:50 -0400, "Albert Brooks"  wrote:
>"Jules Striker"  wrote in message 
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>> On 20 May 2006 12:13:41 -0700, bcpg@canada.com wrote:
>>>Why did HELLBERTA give Harpo the loon 28 SEATS if they are so dead
>>>against the Conservatives?

>> Because at that time, people actually believed Harpo, and hoped for an
>> improvement over the Lieberals.

>> Now that seniors have seen that Harpo doesn't give a damn about them,
>> seniors will vote against the Purely Constipated party!!

>Do you think it's easy to make priorities!?!?

>It isn't fair!

You are right - it isn't fair that Harpo gives support and finaces to Israel,
the pariah state according to the UN!!

It isn't fair that Harpo RAISED taxed for the poor people of Canada by half of
one percent, while reducing taxes for the filthy rich!!

It isn't fair that Harpo is pouring money into frogland Quebec, while screwing
Alberta!

More to come.



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From: Jules Striker 
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Today at City Hall Edmonton, the tax office REFUSED TO ACCEPT CASH in payment
of the gouging city taxes.

This even though on all banknotes is printed: THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER!!

One is left with only one conclusion:
Staff working at city hall must all be thieves, not just the managers!1

Don't forget, the Auditor for the city recently found cash under some of the
cash registers there, unexplained for many years.


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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 04:14:50 GMT, "sharx35"  wrote:
>"Jules Striker"  wrote in message 
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>> Today at City Hall Edmonton, the tax office REFUSED TO ACCEPT CASH in 
>> payment of the gouging city taxes.

>> This even though on all banknotes is printed: THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER!!

>> One is left with only one conclusion:
>> Staff working at city hall must all be thieves, not just the managers!1

>> Don't forget, the Auditor for the city recently found cash under some of 
>> the cash registers there, unexplained for many years.

>How much?

The auditor did give the amount, which was several thousands, I believe.



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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 23:19:15 GMT, "NotHere"  wrote:

>She got a teat chopped off...see what screwing around with a bunch of 
>assholes gets you..The Domi gizz probably caused it. 

Who cares.
It is not as though she has ever done anything useful to society.

Jumping in and out of beds does not count.



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Today at City Hall Edmonton, the tax office REFUSED TO ACCEPT CASH in payment
of the gouging city taxes.

This even though on all banknotes is printed: THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER!!

One is left with only one conclusion:
Staff working at city hall must all be thieves, not just the managers!1

Don't forget, the Auditor for the city recently found cash under some of the
cash registers there, unexplained for many years.


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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:08:23 -0600, Anarchore  wrote:
>robertpeffers@aol.com explained :
>> Afghanistan: Bringing Canadian troops home

>> Canadians are highly skeptical, at the very least, about the war in
>> Afghanistan. Public opinion polls show that Canadians are almost
>> evenly divided about whether to continue the mission.

>Canadians are mostly too stupid to see the KIKE menace in front of 
>them. Public polls are run by the Jew, the filthy Jew everywhere, the 
>stinking warmongering, lying, filthy hooked nose KIKE scum, subverting 
>freedom, for their alien goatfucking religion based on mutilating baby 
>boys' penises, who see all non-Jews as cattle, whose Talmud says to 
>destroy the Goyim, whose Protocols are being followed to the letter, 
>who are bringing us toward WWIII with their mental ilnesses, their 
>paranioa and power grabs, chase them out of Canada, send them to 
>Israel, the genocidal vermin who are killing Arabs by the millions, who 
>are the most racist vile swine imaginable, send them back to their 
>terrorstate homeland, swimming with a Toronto black under each arm.


Looks like Harpo had better order lots more, for all those who will die for
the US & Israel in both Afghanistan, and Iraq!!

On 13 Jun 2006 15:55:59 -0000, Rob Welldumb  wrote:

>Have the stupid yanks, Canoodleheads, and Ozzies and Brits stocked
>enough body bags for all the victims of the zionazis?

>Each week lately there are more and more stupid Canucks being used as target
>practice in Afghanistan and Iraq, to help the zionazis and US imperialists.
>NOT for the interests of normal Canadians!
>Not just those who will be killed in Iraq, and Afghanistan, but all those others
>who will get killed by those supporting anti-Americanism, worldwide?

>And, don't forget all those being killed by the YANKS!!
>Friendly fire indeed.
>Ask the stupid Canuck victims of "friendly fire",
>or the latest Brit victims, or the Russian diplomats....

>Media are now claiming MANY TENS OF THOUSANDS of allied soldiers
>killed and wounded, many more than censored military are claiming!!

>People all over the world are finally understanding that Dubya
>is just a puppet for the damned ZHID CHRISTKILLERS in Israel,
>and their minions running the USA, Canada, Britain and even
>Australia.

>The Bronfmans, Reichmanns, Rapaports, Fleischers and their
>ilk do not care how many Christians they get killed,
>as long as they make money from killing non-zionists!!


>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


>> by James Laxer
>> June 5, 2007

>> The Canadian mission in Afghanistan has never been as advertised.
>> Apparently a straightforward fight against terrorism and for human
>> rights, the realities of the mission have been shrouded in deception
>> from the very start. Initially, in autumn of 2001, the announcement of
>> the mission was a way for the Chrétien government, with its tense
>> relationship with the Bush administration, to express solidarity with
>> the Americans in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.

>> The members of the Chrétien cabinet undoubtedly thought the conflict
>> would be of brief duration and that the Canadian role in it would be
>> unimportant. By March 2003, when the U.S. invaded Iraq, it was clear
>> that the Afghan mission would be longer lasting than originally
>> anticipated.

>> Jean Chrétien's refusal to join the "coalition of the willing" in
>> Iraq, the most popular decision he ever made as prime minister, put
>> Ottawa more at odds than ever with Washington. The Canadian mission in
>> Afghanistan then became a back door means for Chrétien to assure the
>> Bush administration that Canada was doing its part in the broader War
>> on Terror.

>> The short-lived government of Paul Martin further adjusted the focus
>> on Afghanistan when it signaled its willingness to deploy more
>> Canadians in the south of the country, the zone of heavy fighting. For
>> the Martin government, this move, along with a shift to a more pro-
>> Israeli stance in the Middle East, were ways to cozy up to
>> Washington.

>> When the Harper Conservatives won their minority election victory in
>> January 2006, the politics of Canada's Afghan mission altered yet
>> again. While in opposition, Harper made it clear that he thought
>> Canada should enter the fray in Iraq. As the leader of a shaky
>> minority government, however, at a time when Canadians have been
>> solidly opposed to participation in the Iraq War, Harper found a new
>> use for the Afghanistan mission. It became his way to signal his neo-
>> conservative bona fides both to the Bush administration and to his
>> core right-wing base in Canada.

>> Unlike the Liberals, who were wary of Washington, Harper was genuinely
>> and fervently pro-American. Harper expressed the view that Canada's
>> casualties in Afghanistan were the price the country had to pay for
>> greater influence in global affairs.

>> While the politics of the Afghanistan War for Canadian governments has
>> been a shifting game of smoke and mirrors, there has been a very real
>> consequence. On a per capita basis Canadians have suffered more
>> casualties in the conflict than any other country sending troops from
>> the outside to participate in the war.

>> That this should have been visited upon Canada and Canadians and
>> particularly on those Canadians who have been killed or wounded in
>> this war has been a tragic result of a political process that has
>> never been transparent. Canadians have been poorly served by the
>> Chrétien, Martin and Harper governments on the Afghanistan question.

>> The war in Afghanistan, like the struggle in Iraq, is doing more to
>> promote the cause of terrorism throughout the Islamic world than it is
>> doing to win the so-called War on Terror. The argument made by some
>> that to advocate withdrawal is appeasement and that we have a choice
>> between fighting this enemy in Asia or on our own doorstep is a
>> completely phony one.

>> Like previous invasions of Afghanistan, this one is almost certain to
>> end in failure. Eventually, the West will decide to pull its troops
>> out, leaving an even more despoiled country to sort itself out. The
>> values touted by the West - democracy, human rights, and equality for
>> women - are considered by many in Afghanistan and in other parts of
>> the Middle East and Central Asia as nothing more than the crusader
>> myths of outside invaders. The causes which we hold most dear are
>> being sullied in this war.

>> Canada is not a great power, and has no strategic interests in Central
>> Asia. It is time for this country to signal its NATO allies that we
>> intend to pull our troops out of Afghanistan, giving them reasonable
>> notice of our decision. Withdrawing from Afghanistan will enable
>> Canada to pursue a more independent foreign policy, one that is not
>> hopelessly compromised by support for the failing global policies of
>> the Bush administration.

>> The European effort in Afghanistan has been grudging from the start.
>> When the strategic policy in Washington shifts, as it promises to do,
>> and Afghanistan falls into obscurity, the Europeans will be happy to
>> pick up and go home. They will not be offended by a Canadian decision
>> to do the same.

>> What will we owe the Afghans as we withdraw our military forces? In
>> addition to an explanation for why we came and decided to leave, we
>> owe that country, which has seen far too many foreign armies on its
>> soil, continued economic assistance, in addition to programs tailored
>> to training and educating Afghans in Canada, to help in the
>> reconstruction of their country.

>> The Canadian government has insisted from the very start that the
>> mission in Afghanistan is divided into two crucial components:
>> military and reconstruction aid. In fact, the military side of the
>> mission has received 90 per cent of the funding. That ought to be
>> redressed as we pull our military out of Afghanistan. It should be
>> Canada's policy to provide aid to the people of Afghanistan up the
>> level that we have spent on the military mission. Depending on when we
>> end the military operation there, that would mean that Canada would
>> provide at least $3.5 billion in additional aid.




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In May, the crooks in the city Tax Assessment Department maiedl out the
fictitous assessments for taxation for this year.

Jew mare Mandel, featured on TV, was chortling when he stated that tax hikes
this year will be from 20% to 100%!!

If you feel that the assessment for your property is TOO HIGH, while some
neighbours are deliberately UNDER-ASSESSED, then file an appeal!!
If you are angry enough, let everyone know, and tell us on the newsgroups.

Perhaps if there is enough publicity about these crooks, the city will finally
have to fire a few more, and hire some honest assessors!

All city home assessments are readily available on the internet, for easy
comparison.

Don't let yourself get JEWED by the crooks on the city payroll.
Expose them, as Grosvenor did about the lawyer's property, detailed below.

The lawyer even had his property up for city tax sale, this year, for unpaid
taxes, April 27 2006!!


On 29 Jun 2005 15:16:21 -0700, "Brian Boulanger"
 wrote:

>One MUST wonder - was it bribery, graft, corruption or what, that this
>lawyer got a donation from the city tax department of a HALF MILLION
>DOLLARS each year deliberately UNDER-ASSESSED, while honest taxpayers
>got the shaft/got screwed!!

>Perhaps criminal charges should be considered against those city staff
>responsible, for the massive under-collection of proper tax revenues
>for 8 years? Particularly since it took a courageous taxpayer to force
>this scam into the courts and into the open!


>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>From: "Brian Boulanger"  - Find messages
>by this author
>Date: 27 Jun 2005 18:19:01 -0700
>Local: Mon,Jun 27 2005 8:19 pm
>Subject: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to Roll!!
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>It seems that now that the City Auditor-General has his teeth into this
>notorious expose, more heads in the City Tax Assessment Department will
>be getting chopped, besides those staff already terminated.

>The notorious William Grosvenor took the city to tax court, and exposed
>the situation where a well-known lawyer's property was improperly
>UNDERASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS - at $149,500, when the
>lawyer's own documentation declared a value of $600,000!!

>Only now, after the courageous expose, is the property properly
>assessed at $651,000!!

>For 8 years the lawyer got off, while taxpayers who did pay their share
>had to make up the difference.

>Everyone involved in the cover-up, and scam, should not only be fired,
>but prosecuted for criminality as well!


>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics
>From: Mike McWilliams  -
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:20:14 -0600
>Subject: APPEAL YOUR TAXES! Don't Get Jewed By Crooks In City Tax
>Dept.!

>If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4% inflation
>certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim of the crooks
>running Deadmonton?!!

>If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled to
>do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against the
>City,win!!

>Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>employed by the city??
>Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is getting overpaid?


>From: heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>Newsgroups:
>edm.general,edm.politics,ab.ge­­neral,ab.politics,can.general
>Subject: Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO
>GET TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to what
>it should be.

>This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and probably
>$608,000!!!

>Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone has
>the guts to force the issue into a court.

>How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?

>heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>...

>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear before
>> the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!
>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM THE
>> CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!
>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!
>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?

>> heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message ...
>> > City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>> > value.
>> > It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in writing,
>> > was $600,000!!

>> > No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>> > why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>> > This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>> > massive tax hikes!!

>> > No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>> > Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax revolt.
>> > > Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>> > > irregularities involving the city tax department.
>> > > Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an out-of-court
>> > > settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal closure
>> > > of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>> > > One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax assessment hike
>> > > this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence that
>> > > business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the businesses!!
>> > > The right hand did not know what the left did.....

>> > > starwars  wrote in message ...
>> > > > Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>> > > > massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is knowingly
>> > > > under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!
>> > > > This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be worth
>> > > > at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is huge,has
>> > > > law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second floor was
>> > > > assessed last year for less than a quarter of value,for only
>> > > > $148,000!!
>> > > > After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal Court last
>> > > > year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now this year it is
>> > > > assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000 UNDER-ASSESSED!!
>> > > > At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!
>> > > > Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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On 20 May 2006 12:13:41 -0700, bcpg@canada.com wrote:
>Why did HELLBERTA give Harpo the loon 28 SEATS if they are so dead
>against the Conservatives?

Because at that time, people actually believed Harpo, and hoped for an
improvement over the Lieberals.

Now that seniors have seen that Harpo doesn't give a damn about them, 
seniors will vote against the Purely Constipated party!!

Any one but PC!!


>Haunting Klein wrote:
>> It seems that the Alberta PCs will soon be as extinct as the dinosaurs
>> of Alberta they so well resemble.

>> A few good reasons why the anti-PC backlash is taking place, not only by seniors,
>> but also by ordinary taxpayers.

>> 1.	Klein and gang for too long took the Alberta seniors for granted, and screwed
>> them at every chance they could.

>> Seniors have not forgotten the removal of the $1,200 a year reduction of city taxes!
>> Seniors have not forgotten the massive reduction in seniors' health benefits!

>> 2.	Seniors now know that the Municipal Government Board is there to further screw
>> seniors who appeal their city tax assessments.
>> It seems that to be an MGB judge equivalent, all one has to be is an old fart,
>> with no knowledge of the law, business, or taxes.
>> But one must kiss Ralph's butt frequently!

>> 3.	Seniors did not forget that Ralph gave his ZYD buddies Triple5 $440 MILLION from ATB,
>> which is money from the taxpayers, at the same time that Ralph was busy shafting seniors!!

>> 4.	Ralph is busy giving millions to the filthy rich horse owners, and other sports
>> activities, while he rips off the seniors every way he can.

>> And then King Ralph pouts when his approval rating deservedly plummets!
>> Time for an honest hard working replacement, not another dinosaur like Manning either!
>> If only the Libertarians were running for election in Alberta, instead of staying in Toronto!!


>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>> Lawyers, politicians, crooked cops, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>> is a revolutionary act."
>> (George Orwell)

>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)

>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>> and impossible to ignore."
>> --John Bryant



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On 30 Sep 2004 18:41:39 -0000,  Student Woes wrote:

>Students complaining about exorbitantly high tuition fees
>should be complaining about all the deadwood profs on
>tenure, drawing obscenely high wages and benefits!!

>So-called professors giving unwanted and useless courses
>to 17 so-called students, (most of whom are natives having
>costs paid by taxpayers,) while drawing $120,000 or so in
>wages, is unfair to poor students struggling to pay for
>tuition, books, other fees, and of course living expenses
>such as rent and food.

>If the students would finally get angry enough to force
>university administrations to ABOLISH TENURE, then perhaps
>tuition fees would actually drop to a more acceptable level.

>Why not abolish all tenured profs, if they can not find enough
>suckers to pay the costs of their wages,class facilities and all
>the other costs connected to having a particular program. In other
>words, have only courses that students who must pay, actually want.

>If the courses are not useful to graduates in obtaining
>worthwhile employment, then the university should not be
>having useless profs sucking at the public teat, to the
>increased cost to students as well.

>How many so-called university graduates are good only for
>a part-time job at McGrungy's, because the courses for
>which they got ripped-off, are not worth anything in the
>real world of employment!!

>FIRE ALL THE USELESS PROFS, [especially those that are PC]
>and let them try to earn a living in the real world.Most of
>these profs would probably have to go on welfare!!



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To see a video about the KOSHER TAX, go to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWn--jlRVAI&mode=related&search=

Thanks for posting this nice little introduction to the KosherNostra,
Tommy.

The Kosher industry is a fungus that has penetrated into every level of
US foods production, to the point that, even if you dig around 'til
you find a brand that *doesn't* bear the mark of the Kosher Beast,
most of the ingredients were still likely certified at some level, so
the Kashrus Khazars are still probably getting a cut.

The film indicates that a portion of the monies extracted from the
sleeping Gentiles in the Kosher racket goes to "support Israel"
(read OPPRESS PALESTINIANS), and this is almost undoubtedly the case.
The OU (Orthodox Union) is the Big Nose in the US Kash-R-Us market, and
they kick massive amounts of cash to support Zionist "causes" in
the Jewish State.

If the Khazars want to eat Kosher from a can, that's fine by me. But
let them pay for their own fetishes - pass around the plat at the ol'
synagogue. But it'd better be a damn BIG plate, as the film indicated
that they'd need to raise about 6 billion a year to replace the
monies that the Goyim currently unwittingly subsidize them.

One final note: As the film mentioned, some companies are now beginning
to balk - disbelieving the lies told them by the Kosher Racketeers, and
dumping certification.  Others are trying to get the best of both
worlds - for instance, right now I'm eating Planters Dry Roasted
Peanuts. On the package is a simple letter "K". It's not a
enclosed in a circle or a triangle, not enmeshed ins some fancy
pattern, just a simple "K" located approximately where an
"official" Kosher Symbol - owned by the racketeers- would be
placed.

This means that the company is self-regulating, and is NOT playing the
Kosher Racketeers game - OR paying them.    0:-(>

This is the company's way of telling the Kash-R-US Rabbis to take a
flying leap - as the Jews can't copyright the letter "K", (and
this drives these Food Nazis mad). Of course, Kosher Keeping Jew would
never buy the product because they know better - but the  "Kosher is
Better" Gentile consumer - those who have been duped into believing
that the Kosher seal somehow translates to mean a "better" product
(it doesn't - EVER) will never know the difference, and will buy it
anyway.


The shitty part for the Rabbinical Racketeers is that they CAN'T try
to educate the Gentile public on this matter - if they do, the jig'll
be up, and they'll soon be paying for their own picnic.  0:-(>


Will Planters (or Tabasco, etc) miss the Kosher Jewish market? Hell no!
Jews make up only about 2% of the US population, and only about 10% of
those are serious about keeping Kosher on a daily basis. To paraphrase
the ADL's article: The profit that companies make by selling mainline
products to Kosher Keeping Jews is SO low that "we can't even
calculate it".
**
Waldo
Observer at Large



Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!

When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the 
KOSHER TAX, who is more believable, them or liars such as you?

 Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
$30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!


On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:43:26 -0400, "zr"  wrote:

>You've got so much crap you should bottle it.
>Heinz & Libby both still have "cor" on their products. Just look on the back 
>of a bottle of Ketchup dimwit!
>Here is also another fact for you "herr grubber" the Heiress to the Heinz 
>fortune is a Jewess married to a Jew John F Kerry. You know the one, he ran 
>for President of the USA.
>Never mind Das Boat you get Das Boot imbecile.
>
>"Joe Bruno"  wrote in message 
>news:esbp729g8oqmc6h0b6hbodfj50rlfqgaa5@4ax.com...
>> Yes, YOU ARE PURE BS!!

>> When even Heinz/Libby must go public to announce why they dumped the 
>> KOSHER TAX, who is more beleivable, them or liars such as you?

>> Even Philip Wolf of Calgary Canada testified in Court that he made around
>> $30,000 a year, standing around businesses as a kosher food inspector!!

>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!

>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 01:53:33 -0500, "zr"  wrote:
>>
>>>Pure Bullshit!
>>>Next you'll be telling everyone Hallal foods are a rip off. Then Cereal, 
>>>and
>>>baby food.
>>>How about dog food.
>>>Isn't that what you white trash racists eat.
>>
>>>"Jules Streiker"  wrote in message
>>>news:ps7lt11vqd26jm3sc17tvahpierd7qhtha@4ax.com...
>>>> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
>>>> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
>>>> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!
>>>>
>>>> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
>>>> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
>>>> part-time job!!
>>>>
>>>> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
>>>> extortion tax!!
>>>>
>>>> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
>>>> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
>>>> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
>>>> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
>>>> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
>>>> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
>>>> qualified to do...
>>>>
>>>> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
>>>> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
>>>> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!
>>>>
>>>>>From: norma2339@charter.net
>>>>>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>>>>>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>>>>>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>>>>>"veranda"  wrote in message
>>>>>news:...
>>>>>> > >     veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since 
>>>>>> > > it
>>>>>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>>>>>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .
>>>>>> > >     The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>>>>>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost
>>>>
>>>>>>  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:9abc4e06.0304010305.50dc870e@posting.google.com...
>>>>>> > What duplication?  It is a symbol on the container and the cost 
>>>>>> > would
>>>>>> > not change in any way.  This "paranoia" is silly.
>>>>
>>>>>veranda : what 'paranoia' ?? we are talking about saving money .
>>>>>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>>>>>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>>>>>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>>>>>you knew that !
>>>>>Kosher is Israel's food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>>>>>we got our own  !  :)
>>>>
>>>>>Well, to set the record straight.  The Rabbinate council that approves
>>>>>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>>>>>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>>>>>doesn't really care.  It is not an item by item thing.  With the
>>>>>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>>>>>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>>>>>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>>>>>day.)
>>>>
>>>>>What would it save you--less than $10 a year.
>>>>
>>>>>All countries have their own Rabbinate Cousels, so don't think that it
>>>>>is just Canada with their own.  Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>>>>>have demanded more money?
>>>>
>>>>>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>>>>>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>>>>>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>>>>>couldn't make any money either.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin 
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>>>>>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!
>>>>
>>>>>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>>>>>by Ernesto Cienfuegos
>>>>>La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>
>>>>>Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>>>>>receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers
>>>>>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>>>>>attention.
>>>>
>>>>>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>>>>>of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can be found
>>>>>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>>>>>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>>>>>do some research into the subject. What we found
>>>>>certainly was "news" to us and it both shocked and angered us.
>>>>
>>>>>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>>>>>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>>>>>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>>>>>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>>>>>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>>>>>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>>>>>container, the Trader Joe's tea box and even the Glads plastic
>>>>>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.
>>>>
>>>>>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>>>>>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>>>>>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>>>>>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>>>>>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>>>>>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>>>>>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>>>>>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>>>>>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>>>>>that the mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher".
>>>>
>>>>>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and
>>>>>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>>>>>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>>>>>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>>>>>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>>>>>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher"
>>>>>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>>>>>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>>>>>products.
>>>>
>>>>>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>>>>>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>>>>>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>>>>>receive protection.
>>>>
>>>>>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>>>>>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>>>>>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>>>>>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>>>>>other similar markings.
>>>>
>>>>>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>>>>>sophisticated "Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the
>>>>>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>>>>>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>>>>>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>>>>>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>>>>>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>>>>>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>>>>>in New York City.
>>>>
>>>>>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>>>>>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>>>>>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>>>>>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.
>>>>
>>>>>The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>>>>>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>>>>>certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>>>>>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>>>>>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>>>>>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>>>>>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>>>>>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>>>>>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>>>>>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.
>>>>
>>>>>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>>>>>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>>>>>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>>>>>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.
>>>>
>>>>>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>>>>>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>>>>>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>>>>>up to "inspect" the company's operations.
>>>>>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>>>>>lucrative salaries.
>>>>
>>>>>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>>>>>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>>>>>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>>>>>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>>>>>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>>>>>it now.
>>>>
>>>>>Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will
>>>>>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>>>>>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>>>>>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>>>>>certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee"
>>>>>or "kosher plastic sandwich bags".
>>>>>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>>>>>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>>>>>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>>>>>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>>>>>other non-Jewish people?
>>>>>* * * * * * * * * * * *
>>>>
>>>>>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>>>>>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Further to the article below, today's Southam newspapers
>>>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>>>all Heinz products.
>>>>
>>>>>Heinz declared this was done " to keep costs down" according
>>>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.
>>>>
>>>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>>>including those sold under the Libby's label.
>>>>
>>>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>>>Orthodox Rabbis).
>>>>
>>>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>From: tyler 
>>>>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>>>>consumers
>>>>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT
>>>>
>>>>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers
>>>>
>>>>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>>>>proof is easily found.
>>>>
>>>>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>The following has been snipped from:
>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm
>>>>
>>>>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website explains:
>>>>
>>>>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>>>>close investigation and supervision.
>>>>
>>>>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.
>>>>
>>>>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>>>>The cost is minimial to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>>>>that!
>>>>
>>>>>>...and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>>>>annual sales of the product.
>>>>
>>>>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>>>>friends and neighbours if they  know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>>>>Jewish, they won't have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>>>>because something is certified.
>>>>
>>>>>>tyler
>>>>>>the consumer watchdog!!!
>>>>
>>>> If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>>> then visit  www.freedomsite.org
>>>>
>>>> Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!
>>>>
>>>> "At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>>>> is a revolutionary act."
>>>> (George Orwell)
>>>>
>>>> David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'
>>>>
>>>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>>>> First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>>>> and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>>> (Arthur Schopenhauer)
>>>>
>>>> "The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>>>> but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>>>> falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>>>> they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>>> against them -- except force." -- John Bryant
>>>>
>>>> "To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>>>> acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>>>> and impossible to ignore."
>>>> --John Bryant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Posted by:
>>>> Steven Horn (KCOM)
>>>> 1836 NW 11th St
>>>> Oklahoma City, OK 73106
>>>> (405) 524-0576
>>>>
>>>> together with
>>>>
>>>> Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive &
>>>> Henry who like
>>>> late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
>>>> Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
>>>> I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
>>>> We like young children, so that we can train them our way.
>>>>
>>>> CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
>>>> Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even
>>>> VISIT me at:
>>>> 55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>>>> office: VISIT at:
>>>> #5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>>>> Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>>>> or call: 1-250-616-9431
>>>>
>>>> As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is
>>>> called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material
>>>> should give an indication as to the why.
>>>>
>>>> "I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>> proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>>>> yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>>>> seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>>>> my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>>>> moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>>>> http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>>>> also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]
>>>>
>>>> Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like
>>>> a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>>>> even if he or she were not naked"?
>>>> http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>>
>>>> For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>>>> background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David 
>>>> Michael's
>>>> detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and 
>>>> is
>>>> known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a 
>>>> grosvenor!!
>>>> It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just
>>>> to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.
>>>>
>>>> Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>>>> NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>>>> Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late
>>>> nights.
>>>>
>>>> Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>>>> Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>>>> I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or
>>>> send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>>>> work:(780)492-0473
>>>>
>>>> Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
>>>> Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!
>>>>
>>>> For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>>> JEW-WATCH:
>>>> http://www.jewwatch.com
>>>>
>>>> Or, other useful websites include:
>>>> ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>>> IHR - www.ihr.org
>>>> OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>>> PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>>> Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>>> AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>>>> THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>>>>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>>>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>>>>
>>>> Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>>> They have lots of information, as well as books and records.
>>>>
>>>> They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>>> and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.
>>>>
>>>> As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a
>>>> victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>>> of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>>> May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.
>>>>
>>>> In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>>>> for many years around the world.
>>>>
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On Fri, 26 May 2006 16:21:08 GMT, Asterix 
wrote:

Even Robert Weldon wants everyone to know about the crooks in the city
tax department, which is why he reposts the header.

Guess even a high roller like Weldon resents other crooks in town getting away
with graft and corruption?

>On Fri, 26 May 2006 07:56:39 GMT, "sharx35" 
>wrote:
>>"TopPoster."  wrote in message 
>>news:Ggydg.230$Dq.236618@news.sisna.com...
>>> Sharx the nark

>>Well, SOME day, if you save up all your welfare payments, you, too, may 
>>become a home owner and concerned about property taxes.

>Well said, sharx.

If it wasn't for Grosvenor exposing the HALF MILLION A YEAR DELIBERATE
UNDER-ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY AT 13723 - 93 ST., which was
deliberately under-assessed for 8 years, the public would not have had
the PROOF as to how crooked the city tax assessors are!!


>>> Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
>>> they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. 
>>> If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
>>> should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, 
>>> but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the 
>>> erroneous

>>> "sharx35"  wrote in message
>>> news:Feydg.35358$Qq.27711@clgrps12...
>>>> "John Fleming"  wrote in message
>>>> news:vcga7297ahfl0kb5o229s1lqq7gafok2v5@4ax.com...
>>>> > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:07 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>>>> > scriptorium, Lance Boyle  wrote:
>>>> >> $SamIAm wrote:

>>>> >> $> There are many good reasons to appeal your property assessment.
>>> Here are some reasons:

>>>> >> $> Tell them about the busy streets or the noisy development or
>>>> >> $> a problem with your roof or plumbing.

>>>> >> $> 2)  Your property is below average for your community.

>>>> >> $> So if most of the properties in your neighbourhood have
>>>> >> $> upgraded flooring, cabinets, plumbing, etc. and yours isn't then 
>>>> >> you are probably over assessed.

>>>> >> $> 3)  You live in a neighbourhood where many of your neighbours have
>>>> >> built garages or have completed basement development or have done
>>>> >> renovations and you haven't.

>>>> >> $In other words, you live in an overvalued shithole.

>>>> > LOL

>>>> > Of course, his best option might be to just sell the house and buy
>>>> > something nicer in another neighbourhood.  (I was going to say, he 
>>>> > could do a kitchen upgrade, but if odne legally with all the necessary
>>>> > building permits, the city might just increase the assessed market 
>>>> > value and bump up the taxes.)
>>>> > John Fleming
>>>> > Edmonton, Canada

>>>> Doing upgrades WITHOUT permits eventually pisses off the neighbours 
>>>> enough that at least ONE of them will file a complaint. I know, I've filed such
>>>> complaints. Why should *I* pay more property taxes than some scofflaw who
>>>> refuses to get the permits?



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Friday, 30th June is the deadline for filing an Appeal regarding fraudulently
high Tax Assessments.

For a $30 filing fee, one gets the opportunity to say nasty, but true, things
about the crooks in the city tax assessment department.

Plus, with a little work, one has a good chance to get the assessment, and
city taxes, lowered, plus a refund of the $30 fee!

Join the more than 100,000 complainers so far calling Citizen Action Center at
496-8200.


On Fri, 26 May 2006 15:02:43 GMT, Asterix 
wrote:
>On Fri, 26 May 2006 07:56:39 GMT, "sharx35" 
>wrote:

>>Well, SOME day, if you save up all your welfare payments, you, too, may 
>>become a home owner and concerned about property taxes.

>Well said, sharx.

If it wasn't for Grosvenor exposing the HALF MILLION A YEAR DELIBERATE
UNDER-ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY AT 13723 - 93 ST., which was
deliberately under-assessed for 8 years, the public would not have had
the PROOF as to how crooked the city tax assessors are!!


>>> Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
>>> they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. 
>>> If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
>>> should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, 
>>> but
>>> the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the 
>>> erroneous

>>> "sharx35"  wrote in message
>>> news:Feydg.35358$Qq.27711@clgrps12...
>>>> "John Fleming"  wrote in message
>>>> news:vcga7297ahfl0kb5o229s1lqq7gafok2v5@4ax.com...
>>>> > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:07 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>>>> > scriptorium, Lance Boyle  wrote:
>>>> >> $SamIAm wrote:

>>>> >> $> There are many good reasons to appeal your property assessment.
>>> Here are some reasons:

>>>> >> $> Tell them about the busy streets or the noisy development or
>>>> >> $> a problem with your roof or plumbing.

>>>> >> $> 2)  Your property is below average for your community.

>>>> >> $> So if most of the properties in your neighbourhood have
>>>> >> $> upgraded flooring, cabinets, plumbing, etc. and yours isn't then  you are
>>>> >> $> probably over assessed.

>>>> >> $> 3)  You live in a neighbourhood where many of your neighbours have
>>>> >> built
>>>> >> $> garages or have completed basement development or have done renovations
>>>> >> $> and you haven't.

>>>> >> $In other words, you live in an overvalued shithole.
>>>> > LOL

>>>> > Of course, his best option might be to just sell the house and buy
>>>> > something nicer in another neighbourhood.  (I was going to say, he  could
>>>> > do a kitchen upgrade, but if odne legally with all the necessary
>>>> > building permits, the city might just increase the assessed market 
>>>> > value and bump up the taxes.)

>>>> > John Fleming
>>>> > Edmonton, Canada

>>>> Doing upgrades WITHOUT permits eventually pisses off the neighbours  enough
>>>> that at least ONE of them will file a complaint. I know, I've filed such
>>>> complaints. Why should *I* pay more property taxes than some scofflaw who
>>>> refuses to get the permits?



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N.B. AS OF 15 AUGUST 2007, one need no longer visit either these incompetent
bookkeepers, or anyone else  to sign as a guarantor!1

As of that date, all you need do is provide the names and addresses of two
people who have known you for at least 2 years.


On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 23:28:36 -0400, "Gary Renzetti" 
wrote:

>Frank,
>You are posting absolute horseshit.
>A Canadian bookkeeper can NOT "guarantor" a passport application, period! 

Unqualified bookkeepers, with no training, but who pay the $200 fee, and join
the Society of Professional Accountants run by Laura Waters, are now permitted
by the Canadian government to sign as guarantors for passports.

In fact, CGA Alberta also accepted 52 unqualified bookkeepers in 1988 as
members when they paid their fees, and these unqualified bookkeepers are 
also allowed to sign as passport guarantors!!

Is this how Israel is now getting lots of passports for their MOSSAD
criminals?


>Saying that, a Canadian accountant *can*, which sticks in my tookis. 
>Somehow, the Canadian government thinks that an accountant is more 
>trustworthy than a Canadian-born bricklayer or for that matter, a 
>Canadian-born prostitute (say what?). Accountants, in my experience with the 
>breed, are a helluva lot less honest than either bricklayers or whores.

On this point you will get no argument from me.
Just look at all the massive commercial frauds in Canada and the USa, all
involving prominent accounting firms!!

That is why CA stands for CROOKED ACCOUNTANT!!


>How the fuck does a university education make someone a reliable, 
>trustworthy person?

>"Frank Arthur"  wrote in message 
>news:obfaa2pmokcjfs1iq4ss2ur2n5jfrbao97@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 09:36:57 -0700, Adenoid Heinkel
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Not just the US authorities, but also those throughout Europe as well
>> as Asia should be highly suspicious of ALL Canadian passports and
>> their holders.
>>
>> Not only are unqualified bookkeepers , WHO HAVE NO UNIVERSITY
>> OR SIMILARTLY APPROVED COURSES OF INSTRUCTION!,approved
>> by the Canadiangovernment to guarantee people applying for a Canadian
>> passport, but do not forget the many tens of thousands of Canadian 
>> passports
>> supposed "LOST" each year by the Canadian Passport department.
>>
>> Quite apart from the thousands of passports fabricated by the
>> Israelis!!
>>
>> Now, the USA will require that Canadians entering the USA  as of next year
>> must also have a valid passport.
>>
>> With lax guarantors in Canada, no wonder the US authorities, and in New
>> Zealand are concerned!!
>>
>> Notice that the traditional bookkeepers/accountants are not objecting to
>> including these unqualified bookkeepers as being the same as CA,CGA,CMA.
>>
>> Could this be because the older groups are too busy fighting all the 
>> lawsuits
>> for CRIMINAL fraud involving their members=CA,CGA?
>>
>> The CAs and CGAs do not care that the unqualified PA, APA and RPA , all of
>> whom have no university education or similar qualifications for their
>> competency, are now equal in status to gurantee Canadian passports,
>> since all are now equal in non-credibility!!
>>
>>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 18:57:24 -0700, dandelion 
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>No wonder the INS makes it difficult for Canadians to enter the USA.
>>
>>>>They should make it even harder,especially since thousands of Canadian
>>>>passports are stolen with ease each year from Canadian Government
>>>>offices, as admitted regularly to media!!
>>
>>>>On 26 Sep 2004 12:20:32 -0700, heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net
>>>>(HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote:
>>
>>>>>A qualified Engineer wonders about the so-called standards for a
>>>>>Guarantor for a Canadian Passport.
>>
>>>>>Read the article following HIS posting, then complain to your MP.
>>
>>>>>From: "HCH" 
>>>>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
>>>>>Subject: The Passport Guarantor
>>>>>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 22:19:31 -0400
>>
>>>>>The information required on the Canadian Passport Application Forms is
>>>>>weird. This Declaration of Guarantor is really bizarre. Being a
>>>>>Professional Engineer (I'm retired now), born outside Canada but a
>>>>>Canadian Citizen, makes me MORE trustworthy than a full-blooded
>>>>>Canadian who is an Electrician or Carpenter or with whatever trade.
>>>>>The Application form tells me that a person BORN in Canada and a
>>>>>trades-person can NOT be trusted; it also tells me that a person with
>>>>>a professional states + and only 3 years in Canada + a Canadian
>>>>>citizen CAN be trusted (corrupt or not). Hello, that looks to me as
>>>>>PURE discrimination. Which THINKING TANK added such a stupid
>>>>>requirement? They must have been at that day brain-dead. Then further
>>>>>down the application form TWO more persons are required to vouch for
>>>>>you. No Passport for you if don't want to involve anyone.
>>
>>>>>ENOUGH TO CAUSE US IMMIGRATION TO BAR CANADIANS!!
>>>>>Newsgroups: can.legal,can.general,tor.general,
>>>>>soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
>>>>>Subject: Canada Passport Guarantors-WHY Unqualified Bookkeepers!!
>>
>>>>>Info provided as courtesy to public, under FOI.
>>
>>>>>Good Morning
>>
>>>>>I just had a call from the passport office in Ottawa and the PA's have
>>>>>been officially approved as guarantors for passports as of March 3, 
>>>>>2003.
>>>>>
>>>>>As the passport office has a loggin to our website to electronically
>>>>>check for current paid up members, please make sure that all information 
>>>>>on
>>>>>your website listing is correct and up to date and that your account is 
>>>>>in
>>>>>good standing.
>>
>>>>>Laura Waters-Taverner, PA
>>>>>President
>>
>>>>>MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP (professional accountants) ARE NOT RECOGNISED AS
>>>>>QUALIFIED ACCOUNTANTS, BY THE GOVERNMENT OF ALBERTA, WHO ONLY
>>>>>RECOGNISE CA, CGA, AND CMA!!
>>
>>>>>The Canadian Passport Office has no business allowing these
>>>>>unqualified bookkeepers to be Guarantors for Passports, when even the 
>>>>>province
>>>>>does not recognise them as qualified accountants!!
>>
>>>>>In fact, these people could even be guaranteeing for undesirable,
>>>>>criminals, terrorists and others that the USA would like to keep
>>>>>from entering the USA!!
>>
>>>>>The phone for MICHAEL HUTTON, Director Passport Canada is:
>>>>>1-819-994-3530
>>
>>>>>Even qualified, investigated Commissioners for Oaths are not permitted
>>>>>as Guarantors for Passports, while unqualified, unvetted bookkeepers
>>>>>are!!
>>
>>>>>The US INS are now really getting annoyed with Canada, and Canadian
>>>>>passports.
>>>>>They claim that criminals, dope dealers, and even terrorists will now
>>>>>find it even easier to get Canadian passports.
>>
>>>>>It seems Passports Canada just does not give a damn!!!
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:53:21 GMT, Mountain Goat  wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:26:38 -0700, Loaf of Bread
> wrote:
>>On Jun 24, 8:12 am, Jules Striker
>> wrote:

>And clearly an idiot. Can you imagine hundreds of people coming in to
>the tax office carrying $2000 cash (median tax payment) each during
>the last week of June. What a temptation for robbers, and the risk to
>staff and other citizens of having that much cash on the premises.
>That's why Costco for example has a system of sending all the cash to
>a central cash office via pneumatic tubes on a regular basis (every
>time a till gets over a certain amount).

So you admit that the clowns managing the city are not even as intelligent as
those running Costco?

Since the city could easily pay Brinks to pick up cash at regular intervals,
as do other businesses accumulating large amounts of cash such as casinos,
what is so difficult to comprehend/

And since banknotes are specified as legal tender in Canada, the city can not
legally refuse legal tender!


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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:31:14 GMT, "sharx35"  wrote:
>"Jules Striker"  wrote in message 
>news:51r483h4mj5tinitbrt127j46q1du0vaue@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:53:21 GMT, Mountain Goat  
>> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:26:38 -0700, Loaf of Bread
>>> wrote:
>>>>On Jun 24, 8:12 am, Jules Striker
>>>> wrote:

>>>And clearly an idiot. Can you imagine hundreds of people coming in to
>>>the tax office carrying $2000 cash (median tax payment) each during
>>>the last week of June. What a temptation for robbers, and the risk to
>>>staff and other citizens of having that much cash on the premises.
>>>That's why Costco for example has a system of sending all the cash to
>>>a central cash office via pneumatic tubes on a regular basis (every
>>>time a till gets over a certain amount).

>> So you admit that the clowns managing the city are not even as intelligent 
>> as those running Costco?

>> Since the city could easily pay Brinks to pick up cash at regular  intervals,
>> as do other businesses accumulating large amounts of cash such as casinos,
>> what is so difficult to comprehend?

>> And since banknotes are specified as legal tender in Canada, the city can 
>> not  legally refuse legal tender!


>Bill, what is so difficult with sending them a bloody cheque, once a year, 
>or a money order? Or having them debit your bank account once a month? I've 
>been on the monthly plan--NO extra charges, by the way, for years. No muss, 
>No fuss, No strings attached.


Banks charge for any and all services, so why finance banks?

Cash is supposed to be legal tender.

If businesses, and even casinos, can handle large amounts of cash, 
why not the crooks at city hall?




From MattKern@roc.usenetexchange.com Sat Oct 13 23:32:41 EDT 2007
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In Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia, all the garbage drug people get the same
treatment, no matter their colour.

All get the "long drop", which means they will no longer be a burden on
society.

They publicly advertise : DADAH MEANS DEATH at all points of entry, so that
the druggies know the penalty before entering the countries.


On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 09:33:33 +0800, "Agong Mat"  wrote:

>If these two unfortunate smuglers were white, it will be a different
>scaenario. The Oz PM, the GZ Governor and the Queen will all fight to save
>the white trash. So, you see, it alls boils down to racism! I just hope
>spmeday, some whute trash are caught in Malaysia and Singapore.

>"MattKern"  wrote in message
>news:coqt535rehksq4kqo904f0bumc1b13omao@4ax.com...
>> At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage people,
>> such as drug dealers.
>>
>> They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an executed
>> criminal will never re-offend!!
>>
>> Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for the
>upkeep
>> in some pampering prison system!!
>>
>> If only the justice systems in Australia & North America would follow
>suit!!!
>> Oz could start by executing the 4 Canadian drug trafickers it just
>arrested!!
>>
>>
>> On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking" 
>wrote:
>>
>> >AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>> >Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>> >this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>> >the streets of Sydney.
>>
>> >The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>> >drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>> >radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>> >doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.
>>
>> >But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>> >tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>> >raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>> >a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>> >opposes the death penalty worldwide.
>>
>> >Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>> >Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>> >to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>> >traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>> >executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.
>>
>> >It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>> >Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>> >December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>> >appeals for clemency.
>>
>> >It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>> >despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>> >there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>> >bodies or conceal it in their luggage.
>>
>> >Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>> >Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>> >and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>> >lethally injects traffickers.
>>
>> >Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>> >Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>> >information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>> >of couriers the trade calls "mules".
>>
>> >"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>> >drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>> >he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>> >the law of quick dollars."
>>
>> >The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>> >sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>> >already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>> >his own party room.
>>
>> >The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>> >February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>> >uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.
>>
>> >Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>> >remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>> >previous successful run and another aborted attempt.
>>
>> >This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>> >determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>> >and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>> >treaties.
>>
>> >"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>> >engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>> >them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>> >we will continue to operate within."
>>
>> >What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>> >over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>> >execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.
>>
>> >The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>> >was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>> >the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.
>>
>> >"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>> >citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.
>>
>> >Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>> >Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>> >illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.
>>
>> >While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>> >action.
>>
>> >The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>> >the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>> >Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>> >charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>> >do as it thought best until charges were laid.
>>
>> >By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>> >evidence had been gathered.
>>
>> >Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>> >drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>> >choose who it chooses to cooperate with."
>>
>> >International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>> >the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>> >Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>> >a decade.
>>
>> >Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>> >threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.
>>
>> >Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>> >penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>> >support of up to 80 per cent.
>>
>> >In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>> >that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>> >for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>> >die.
>>
>> >Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.
>>
>> >In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>> >Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>> >acts of terrorism.
>>
>> >Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>> >Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>> >said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>> >pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.
>>
>> >How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.
>>
>> >Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>> >out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>> >Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.
>>
>> >Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>> >inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>> >times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>> >shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.
>>
>> >It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>> >High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>> >Jakarta.
>>
>> >And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>> >grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>> >his mind.
>>
>> >Death penalty Australia's double dilemma
>> >
>> >18.02.06
>> >By Greg Ansley
>>
>



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The vote was NOT "close" as ADL had hoped for!!


On Thu, 31 May 2007 04:43:34 GMT, NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org wrote:

>British academics approve Israel boycott

>Via NY Transfer News Collective  *  All the News that Doesn't Fit

>sent by Andy Pollack

>This is huge -- a huge union taking a huge step.
>Get ready to defend them and to follow their lead!

>The Guardian - May 30, 2007
>http://education.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329949066-108234,00.html

>7.30pm update
>Lecturers back boycott of Israel

>by James Meikle, Education corresponden

>University lecturers today threatened to provoke international
>condemnation over academic freedom by forcing their union into a
>year-long debate over boycotting work with Israeli universities.

>Delegates at the first conference of the new University and College
>Union in Bournemouth voted by more than three to two to recommend
>boycotts in protest at Israel's "40-year occupation" of Palestinian
>land and to condemn the "complicity" of Israeli academics.

>The conference motion said there should be "a comprehensive and
>consistent boycott" of all Israeli academic institutions, as called for
>by Palestinian trade unions.

>Delegates voted by 158 to 99 in favour of the motion. The union's
>leadership must now circulate calls from Palestinians for a boycott of
>Israeli universities to all branches throughout the country.

>Tom Hickey, a Brighton University academic and union national executive
>member, who led the call for stronger moves towards a boycott, said:
>"There will be adverse effects on individuals, but this is not
>targeting individuals or trying to break contacts with them."

>He said the vote in favour of a boycott call to all branches reflected
>"the deep concern" people have about the issue. A boycott could involve
>lecturers refusing to collaborate on research contracts with Israeli
>academics and refusing to work with journals published by Israeli
>companies.

>However, Sally Hunt, the general secretary of the union, said: "I do
>not believe a boycott is supported by a majority of (the 120,000) UCU
>members; nor do I believe that members see it as a priority for the
>union."

>Ofir Frankel, a spokesman for the Advisory Board for Academic Freedom,
>said: "This was a disappointment. We see it as discriminatory and
>counterproductive. It will make British academia look a little less
>serious." He added that it would also damage existing links between
>Israelis and Palestinians, Jews and Arabs.

>The decision was greeted with outrage among Jewish groups and
>activists. Jeremy Newmark, chief executive of the Jewish Leadership
>Council, said: "The UCU boycott motion is an assault on academic
>freedom. While the vast majority of academics do not support a boycott,
>this decision damages the credibility of British academia as a whole."

>Jon Benjamin, chief executive of the Board of Deputies of British Jews,
>said: "Now is the time to strengthen the kinds of relationships that
>will bring all sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict together and,
>in this country, create a better understanding of the complex issues
>through that engagement. We call upon the Union's leadership and all
>members who are rightly outraged by the decision to work towards a
>reversal of this policy."

>Mitch Simmons, campaigns director for the Union of Jewish Students,
>said: "Academic freedom is part of the fabric of modern society. The
>exchange of information and the advancement of human knowledge should
>have no borders. Disappointingly, it seems that no value can be left
>unviolated by the proposers of this motion."

>During the debate, which lasted well over an hour, Michael Cushman,
>from the London School of Economics, said: "Universities are to Israel
>what the springboks were to South Africa: the symbol of their national
>identity."

>Israel wanted to claim it was a normal democratic state and
>universities were integral to that, Mr Cushman said. "[But] it is not a
>normal state. They are not normal universities.

>"Senior academics move from universities into ministries and back
>again," he said.

>"Regularly, lecturers take up their commissions in the Israeli Defence
>Force as reserve officers to go into the West Bank to dominate, control
>and shoot the population."

>But Mary Davis, from London Metropolitan University, said there were
>"many, many academics ... who oppose Israeli government policy tooth
>and nail ... This notion that Israeli academia is the Springbok of
>Israel is just plain wrong and foolish."

>Guardian News and Media Limited 2007
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On 30 May 2007 09:15:23 -0700, in soc.culture.palestine ADL Reporter
 wrote:

Published: May 30, 07, 16:31 / Israel News

Hours before members of the University and College Union (UCU) gather
in Bournemouth, southern England, to vote on a motion calling for a
boycott of Israeli academic institutions, British-Jewish academics
told Ynetnews they expected the vote to be close, adding that it could
"could go either way."

"I really don't know what will happen," said Ronnie Fraser, Chairman
of the Academic Friends of Israel. "Sally Hunter (Joint Secretary
General of UCU) has just spoken, coming out against a boycott. But
there are too many unknowns."

British academic unions have flirted with boycotts of Israel on a
number of occasions in the past few years, and in 2005, the
Association of University Teachers (AUT) passed an Israel boycott
motion. It was overturned shortly afterwards.... See more at the URL
below.

http://adlonline.us/#israel_ostracized




On 31 May 2007 13:27:46 -0700, V i v a     P a l e s t i n e!
 wrote:

>UK Academics Union Backs Israel Boycott
>IslamOnline.net & Newspapers

>CAIRO - Britain's largest association for professors and lecturers has
>backed a call by Palestinian trade unions to boycott Israeli academic
>institutions to protest the crackdown on the Palestinian school and
>university system, The Guardian reported on Thursday, May 31.

>Representatives of the University and College Union (UCU)'s 120,000
>members supported the boycott motion by 158 votes to 99, with 17
>abstentions, at the UCU inaugural congress on Wednesday, May 30.

>The motion calls on British college lecturers and professors to
>"consider the moral implications of existing and proposed links with
>Israeli academic institutions."

>Under union procedures, the motion will be sent to all UC branches
>nationwide for a debate, with the hope of voting on a formal boycott
>in the union's conference next year.

>"Today's motion on boycott means all branches now have a
>responsibility to consult all of their members on the issue," said
>Sally Hunt, the UCU's general secretary.

>"I do not believe a boycott is supported by the majority of UCU
>members, nor do I believe that members see it is a priority for the
>union."

>A boycott could sever academic contacts and exchanges of personnel
>between British and Israeli academic institutions.

>The pro-boycott ballot was the first since the merger of two leading
>associations of higher education teachers last year.

>Two years ago the Association of University Lecturers (AUT) endorsed a
>similar boycott.

>It overturned the resolution later that year when it merged with the
>University and College Lecturers' Union into the UCU.

>Complicit

>The UCU said the boycott is to protest "the complicity of Israeli
>academia" in the occupation of Palestinian lands.

>"Passivity or neutrality is unacceptable, and criticism of Israel
>cannot be construed as anti-Semitic," read the motion.

>Tom Hickey, the UCU executive member, said the vote aimed at
>condemning the denial of educational rights for Palestinians under the
>Israeli occupation.

>"The vote reflected the deep concern people have."

>Other motion's backers blasted the Israeli policies in the occupied
>territories as "apartheid".

>Delegates of universities who have visited the occupied territories
>recently described the appalling conditions Palestinian students
>endure while learning amid nonstop arrests and incursions by Israeli
>forces.

>Journeys of Palestinians across the West Bank, which should take no
>more than 20 minutes, now takes several hours because of countless
>checkpoints, they said.

>UNESCO estimates hundreds of thousands of Palestinian students cannot
>attend their regular schools and universities because of Israeli
>measures in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip.

>It says that many Palestinian children are now being schooled at home
>or in makeshift classrooms such as mosques, basements and alleyways.

>Boycott of Israeli products and companies have picked pace in Britain
>recently.

>In April, Britain's National Union of Journalists voted in favor of a
>boycott of Israeli goods.

>More than 100 British doctors have also called for a boycott of the
>Israeli Medical Association, which represents physicians.

>On Monday, May 28, Britain's Architects and Planners for Justice in
>Palestine (APJP) blasted fellow professionals in Israel for
>participating in the occupation projects that oppresses Palestinians.

> http://tinyurl.com/35vfok



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Subject: Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People=Ike's Death Camps!! Repost
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On Sun, 20 August 2006  08:54:37 -0700, Ken McVaySOBC
wrote:

This is more than true, if you read the book "OTHER LOSSES" by
Bacque!

It seems that those who were involved in this gencoide after the war,
tried hard to suppress news about their crimes, and many of the
victims died, fearing harm to their families if they told the truth.

Now, with more and more survivors willing to testify, including some
of the US military involved, the truth is being substantiated!


>>>On 13 Dec 2004 01:34:52 -0800, "Schorsch"  wrote:
>>>Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:
>>> In article <1102789129.632939.294380@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Schorsch  wrote:
>> >Allied Plans for the Annihilation of the German People
>> >Measures for the Devastation of the Heart of Europe

>>> Was there some point you wished to make?

>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...

>>>Subject: Es Stimmt-Ike's Death Camps for Germans!!

>>>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting 
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still 
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the 
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>>>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all 
>>>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>>>Here is the latest.......

>>>From: cmsahe@excite.com (Carlos cmsahe)
>>>Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.palestine,soc.culture.europe
>>>Subject: "Ike"'s Death camps
>>>Date: 18 Feb 2002 07:43:47 -0800

>>>A U.S. PRISON GUARD AT ONE OF "IKE'S DEATH CAMPS"

>>>By Martin Brech

>>>FORTY-FIVE years ago, I witnessed an atrocity: the deliberate
>>>starvation of German POWs by our own army. History, written by the
>>>victors, suppressed all news of this atrocity until James Bacque, a
>>>Canadian author, published his brilliant expose, OTHER LOSSES. This
>>>book is a best seller in Canada, a sensation in Europe, yet is
>>>virtually unavailable (censored?) in the U.S. Our major booksellers
>>>told me their distributors are not handling it. When I prevailed upon
>>>a small, independent bookstore to order direct from Canada, the
>>>publisher told them they would be the only store in New York State to
>>>carry the book. This in 'the land of the free'?"

>>>Fortunately, Pat Buchanan called attention to OTHER LOSSES in his
>>>January 10, 1990 column. He wrote:

>>>"Conclusion: the U.S. Army killed ten times as many Germans in POW
>>>camps as we did on battlefields from Normandy to V.E. day. (German
>>>POWs) had their rations cut below survival level until they were dying
>>>at rates up to 30% of exposure, starvation and neglect... Red Cross
>>>food trains were turned back and U.S. food shipments sat on the
>>>docks...One French officer said the U.S. camps reminded him of Dachau
>>>and Buchenwald...The book blames Eisenhower. 'The German is a beast,'
>>>Ike had written...But that was not how the Canadians and British felt,
>>>who treated their prisoners justly...It was not the view of General
>>>Mark Clark, nor of Patton...Ignoring the book is not enough."
>>>Pat Buchanan's courageous column inspired me to help end the cover-up
>>>of the atrocity I had witnessed. I wrote letters to several newspapers
>>>which were, of necessity, short and incomplete. Now I would like to
>>>finally free more of my painful memories, hoping to be heard, so that
>>>this will help us to acknowledge our share in the "banality of evil",
>>>cleansing ourselves with the truth. Perhaps we as a nation may then
>>>put this behind us with some integrity and with some hope for
>>>redemption.

>>>In October 1944, at age eighteen, I was drafted into the army while a
>>>student at the NYS College of Forestry. Largely due to the "Battle of
>>>the Bulge", my training was cut short, my furlough cut in half, and I
>>>was then immediately sent overseas. Upon arrival in Le Havre, France,
>>>we were quickly loaded into boxcars and shipped to the front. By the
>>>time we reached it, I had developed mononucleosis severely enough to
>>>be sent to a hospital in Belgium.

>>>By the time I left the hospital, the unit I had trained with in
>>>Spartenburg, South Carolina was so deeply into Germany that I warn
>>>placed in a "repo depo" (a replacement depot) despite my protests. I
>>>then lost interest in which units I was assigned to because non-combat
>>>units were generally not respected. My separation qualification record
>>>states that I served mostly with the 14th Infantry Regiment, during
>>>which time I guarded prisoners of war and served as an interpreter.
>>>During my seventeen month stay in Germany, I was transferred to other
>>>outfits also.

>>>In late March or early April 1945, I was assigned to help guard a POW
>>>camp near Andernach along the Rhine. I had four years of high school
>>>German, so I was able to talk to the prisoners, although this was
>>>forbidden.

>>>Gradually, however, I was used as an interpreter and asked to ferret
>>>out the S.S. (I found none.)

>>>In Andernach, between 50,000 and 65,000 prisoners, ranging in age from
>>>very young teens to very old men, were crowded together in an open
>>>field surrounded by barbed wire. The women were kept in a separate
>>>enclosure which I did not see until later. The men I guarded had no
>>>tents or other shelter, no blankets and many had no coats. Inadequate
>>>numbers of slit trenches were provided for excrement, and so the men
>>>lived and slept in the mud and increasing filth during a cold, wet
>>>spring. Their misery from exposure alone was evident.

>>>It was even more shocking to see them eating grass, sometimes throwing
>>>it into a tin can containing a thin soup. They told me they did this
>>>hoping to ease their hunger pains. Soon their emaciation was evident.
>>>Dysentery raged and, too weak and crowded to reach the slit trenches,
>>>they were increasingly sleeping in excrement. I saw no sign of
>>>provision for water, so the thin soup was their food and water for the
>>>day. Some days there was bread, less than a slice each. Other days
>>>there was nothing.

>>>The sight of so many men desperate for food and water, sickening and
>>>dying before our eyes, is indescribable. Even now, I can only think of
>>>it momentarily.

>>>We had ample food and supplies that could have been shared more
>>>humanely, and we could have offered some medical assistance, but did
>>>nothing. Only the dead were quickly and efficiently taken care of:
>>>hauled away to mass graves.

>>>My outrage reached the point that I protested to my officers, but I
>>>was met with hostility or bland indifference. When pressed, they
>>>explained they were under strict orders from "higher up". No officer
>>>would dare to systematically do this to over 50,000 prisoners if he
>>>felt he was violating general policy and subject to court martial. The
>>>term "war criminal" was just beginning to come into fashion.

>>>Realizing my protests were useless, I asked a friend working in the
>>>kitchen if he could slip me some extra food for the prisoners. He too
>>>repeated that they were under strict orders to severely ration the
>>>prisoners' food, and that these orders came from "higher up". But he
>>>said they had more food than they knew what to do with and would sneak
>>>me some.

>>>When I threw this food over the barbed wires to the prisoners I was
>>>caught and threatened with imprisonment. I repeated the "offense", and
>>>one officer threatened to shoot me. I naturally assumed this was a
>>>bluff, but I began to have some doubts after I encountered a captain
>>>on a hill above the Rhine shooting down at a group of German civilian
>>>women with his .45 caliber pistol. When I asked, "Why?" he mumbled,
>>>"Target practice," and fired until his pistol was empty. I saw the
>>>women running for cover, but, at that distance, couldn't tell if any
>>>had been hit.

>>>This is when I more fully realized I was dealing with some
>>>cold-blooded killers filled with moralistic hatred. They considered
>>>the Germans sub-human and worthy of extermination; another expression
>>>of the downward spiral of racism. Articles in the G.I. newspaper,
>>>Stars & Stripes, played up the Nazi concentration camps, complete with
>>>photographs of emaciated bodies; this amplified our self-righteous
>>>cruelty and made it easier to imitate behavior we were supposed to
>>>oppose. Also, I think, soldiers not exposed to combat were trying to
>>>prove how tough they were by taking it out on the prisoners and
>>>civilians. At least, many combat soldiers told me later they would not
>>>have tolerated this, for they combined hatred with respect for a
>>>courageous enemy.

>>>The prisoners I spoke to were mostly simple farmers and workingmen, as
>>>ignorant, albeit nationalistic, as many of our own troops. I heard
>>>many versions of "my country, right or wrong, my country," which we
>>>still hear in our own country today.

>>>As time went on, many of them lapsed into a Zombie-like state of
>>>listlessness. Others, maddened by thirst, tried to escape in a
>>>desperate or suicidal fashion, running through open fields in broad
>>>daylight towards the Rhine to quench their thirst. They were mowed
>>>down.

>>>Some prisoners were extremely eager for cigarettes, saying they took
>>>the edge off their hunger. Accordingly, some enterprising G.I. "Yankee
>>>traders" were acquiring hordes of wrist watches and rings in exchange
>>>for handfuls of cigarettes or less. When I began throwing cartons of
>>>cigar-ettes to the prisoners to ruin this trade, I found myself
>>>threatened by rank-and-file G.I.s also. At least this taught me an
>>>indelible lesson: how wrong majorities and authorities can be.

>>>A bright spot in this gloomy picture came, oddly enough, one night
>>>when I was put on the "graveyard shift", from two to four A.M.
>>>Actually, there was a graveyard on the uphill side of this enclosure,
>>>not many yards away. My superiors had forgotten to give me a
>>>flashlight and I hadn't bothered to ask, being disgusted with the
>>>whole situation by that time. It was a fairly bright night and I soon
>>>became aware of a prisoner crawling under the wires to the graveyard.
>>>We were supposed to shoot escapees on sight, so I started to get up to
>>>warn him to get back. Suddenly I noticed another prisoner crawling
>>>from the graveyard back to the enclosure. They were risking their
>>>lives to get to the graveyard for something; I had to investigate.

>>>When I entered the gloom of this shrubby, tree-shaded cemetery, I
>>>never felt more vulnerable, but somehow curiosity kept me going.
>>>Despite my caution, I tripped over the legs of someone in a prone
>>>position. Whipping my rifle around while stumbling and trying to
>>>regain composure of mind and body, I soon was relieved I hadn't
>>>reflexively fired. The figure sat up, moving erratically. Gradually I
>>>could see the beautiful but terror-stricken face of a woman with a
>>>picnic basket nearby. German civilians were not allowed to feed, nor
>>>even come near, the prisoners, so I quickly assured her I approved of
>>>what she was doing, not to be afraid, and that I would leave the
>>>graveyard to get out of the way, telling no one.

>>>I left the graveyard as quickly as possible and sat down, leaning
>>>against a tree at the edge CF the cemetary to be inconspicuous and not
>>>frighten the prisoners. I imagined then, and often since, what it
>>>would be like to be a prisoner under those conditions and meet a
>>>beautiful woman with a picnic basket. I never saw her again, but I
>>>have never forgotten her face.

>>>While I watched, more prisoners crawled to and from the enclosure. I
>>>saw they were dragging food back to their comrades and could only
>>>admire their courage and devotion. As I walked back to my quarters at
>>>the end of my shift, a nightingale and I were singing -- both felt a
>>>touch of spring.

>>>(I originally did not intend to reveal the following incident, for it
>>>moves into a realm termed "mystical". However, for me, it was an
>>>extremely significant experience, changing my life, providing a light
>>>no darkness can extinguish. It must be told, hoping it will foster
>>>understanding.)

>>>On May 8, V.E. day, I decided to celebrate with some prisoners I was
>>>guarding who were baking bread, meager amounts of which the other
>>>prisoners occasionally received. This group had all the bread they
>>>could eat, and shared the jovial mood generated by the end of the war.
>>>We all thought we would be going home soon, a pathetic hope on their
>>>part. We were in what was to become the French zone, and I later
>>>witnessed the brutality of the French soldiers when we transferred our
>>>prisoners to them for their slave labor camps (see below).

>>>However, on this day we were happy.

>>>After chatting with them about the potentials of peace for the rest of
>>>our lives, I decided to risk a gesture of trust that objectively would
>>>seem foolish. I emptied my rifle and stood it in the corner. They
>>>tested me further by asking to play with it, and I agreed. Intuitively
>>>I felt I could rely on their sense of honor not to attack me, for they
>>>knew they too were being tested. This thoroughly 'broke the ice', and
>>>soon we were singing songs we taught each other or I had learned in
>>>high school German ("Du, du, liegst mir im Herzen"). Out of gratitude,
>>>they secretly baked a small sweet bread and insisted I take it,
>>>explaining it was the only possible gift they had left to offer.
>>>Expressing my gratitude with a lump in my throat, I put it in my tight
>>>"Eisenhower jacket" so I could sneak it back to my barracks. I later
>>>found an opportunity to eat it outside.

>>>Never had bread tasted more delicious, nor conveyed to me a deeper
>>>sense of communion while eating it. A wonderful feeling pervaded me,
>>>gently opening me to an intimation of the Oneness of all Being.
>>>Through those prisoners I sensed the ~cosmic presence of what has been
>>>called the Christ, Buddha-nature, or, perhaps most aptly, the
>>>Ineffable: cosmically present, but hidden and apparently separate,
>>>until revealed in the wholeness of the giving of the self. Even within
>>>the horror humans had created, I was taught a path to redemption may
>>>open by taking a first, tentative step in the direction of love,
>>>understanding and forgiveness. This above all the prisoners taught me:
>>>not only are we all potentially humane humans, there is divinity
>>>within us waiting for us to dissolve the defensive shield of ego. I
>>>was pleased to discover later the words of Matthew 25:34-46,
>>>expressing the potential within prisoners and all who are at our
>>>mercy.

>>>Shortly after this experience I was plunged into even greater horror.
>>>Some of our weak and sickly prisoners were being marched off by French
>>>soldiers to their camp. The truck we were on first passed another
>>>truck picking up bodies along the side of the road, and then came up
>>>behind a slowly moving column of men. Temporarily we slowed down and
>>>remained behind, perhaps because the driver was as shocked as I was.
>>>The French soldiers were apparently incensed at the poor condition of
>>>our prisoners, not only for labor but for marching to another camp.
>>>Whenever a prisoner staggered or dropped back, the French clubbed him
>>>to death and then dragged him to the side of the road. For many, this
>>>quick death might have been preferable to their prolonged suffering.
>>>Even gas would have been more merciful than our murder by neglect in
>>>our slow 'killing fields'.

>>>When I saw the German women held in a separate enclosure, I asked why
>>>we were keeping them. I was told they were "camp followers", selected
>>>as breeding stock for the S.S. to create a super-race. We provided
>>>them with tents but they were extremely hungry. I spoke to some and
>>>must say they were still spirited and attractive. However, I believe I
>>>was objective enough when I told all concerned that I didn't think
>>>they deserved our treatment.

>>>As an interpreter, I was able to prevent some particularly unfortunate
>>>arrests. One somewhat amusing incident occurred during a pre-dawn raid
>>>we conducted on a town to discover Nazis or arms. An old farmer was
>>>being dragged away by some soldiers. I was told he had a "fancy Nazi
>>>medal", which they showed to me. Fortunately, I had a chart
>>>identifying such medals. He had been awarded it for having five or
>>>more children! Perhaps his wife was somewhat relieved to get him "off
>>>her back", but I didn't think one of our 'death camps' was a fair
>>>punishment for his contribution to Germany. The soldiers agreed and
>>>released him to continue his "dirty work".

>>>Famine was spreading amongst German civilians also. It was a common
>>>sight to see German women up to their elbows in our garbage cans
>>>looking for something edible -- that is, when they weren't chased
>>>away.

>>>When I interviewed mayors of small towns and villages, I was told
>>>their supply of food had been taken away by "displaced persons"
>>>(foreigners who had worked in Germany), who packed the food on trucks
>>>and drove away. When I reported this, the response was a shrug or an
>>>expression of helplessness.

>>>Although the Red Cross coffee and doughnut stands were available
>>>everywhere for us, I never saw any Red Cross in the prison camps or
>>>helping the civilians. While my girlfriend had all the "contraband"
>>>doughnuts she could eat, most Germans had to share their meager hidden
>>>stores and wait until the next harvest.

>>>This hunger undoubtedly made many German women more "available", but,
>>>despite this, rape was incredibly prevalent and often accompanied by
>>>additional violence. I particularly remember a charming eighteen year
>>>old girl who had several unsuccessful suitors and was "just friends"
>>>with me, who had the side of her face smashed with a rifle butt and
>>>was then raped by two G.I.s. The casual shooting of German civilians
>>>also continued, usually by drunken soldiers who would tell of this as
>>>something amusing. All too many G.I.s gave the impression they were
>>>1ike animals released from cages, free to do what they liked because
>>>they were dealing with yet a lower species of animal, a reverse
>>>racism, inflamed by our propaganda. However, even the French
>>>complained to me that our rape and drunken destructive behavior in
>>>their country was excessive. When we had arrived in Le Havre, we had
>>>been given booklets instructing us that the Germans had maintained a
>>>high standard of behavior with French civilians who were peaceful, and
>>>that we should do the same. In this we failed miserably.

>>>So what? we might still say. The enemies' atrocities were worse than
>>>ours. Certainly my experiences were only of the last phases of the
>>>war, when we were already clearly the victors. The Nazi opportunity
>>>for atrocities had faded and ours was unleashed. But we might have
>>>learned the simple lesson that two wrongs do not make a right. Perhaps
>>>we might even have broken the cycle of vengeful retaliation and
>>>unbridled hatred, fed by racism, that has plagued human history and
>>>blighted human potential all to long. Instead, we committed our own
>>>atrocities and now are clinging to a cover-up. That is why I am
>>>speaking out now, forty-five years after the crime. We can never
>>>prevent individual war crimes, but we can, if enough of us speak out,
>>>influence government policy. We can reject government propaganda that
>>>depicts our enemies as subhuman and encourages the kinds of outrages I
>>>witnessed. We can protest the bombing of civilian targets, which still
>>>goes on today. (I will never forget the sickly sweet smell of rotting
>>>human flesh rising from the shattered remains of the cities and towns
>>>I entered.) And we can refuse ever to condone our government' s murder
>>>of unarmed and defeated prisoners of war.

>>>I realized it's difficult to admit witnessing a crime of this
>>>magnitude, especially if implicated oneself. Even G.I .s sympathetic
>>>to the victims told me they were afraid to oppose so massive a policy
>>>that would surely seek to cover its tracks. I never heard this
>>>directly from an officer, but it was the belief of the rank-and-file
>>>G.I.s I spoke to that we were not to "talk" because, first, no one
>>>would believe us, and second, we would surely get into trouble. They
>>>all insisted it was better not to talk, and slowly I too realized it
>>>would be futile and dangerous. That is, until now, thanks to James
>>>Bacque and Pat Buchanan. This is not to say the danger has passed.
>>>Since I "spoke out" recently, my mailbox has been smashed and I have
>>>received threatening phone calls. But I believe it is worth the risk.
>>>Writing about these atrocities has been a catharsis of feelings
>>>suppressed too long, a liberation, and perhaps will remind other
>>>witnesses and citizens -that "the truth shall make us free, have no
>>>fear." And, in any case, "the truth shall out".

>>>We may even learn a supreme lesson from all this: Hate is
>>>self-destructive; only love can conquer and evolve all as One.

>>>Martin Brech
>>>(Adjunct Professor,
>>>Philosophy & Religion,
>>>Mercy College;
>>>Ex-G.I., Finally Free)
>>>Martin Brech, 187 Archer Road, Mahopac, NY 10541, Tel.: 914-628-6301

>>>James Bacque: Did the Allies starve millions of Germans?


>>>Perhaps the Scheissedreck Shabbasgoy McVay wanted to further repost
>>>the following article...


Ken McVay from Nizkor seems to actually deny that something like death
camps for Germans even existed or that Germans were deliberately
starved to death (Rheinwiesenlager).
http://www.rheinwiesenlager.de/

He himself is some kind of "Holocaust Denier", when it comes to German
suffering.
Note that Nizkor virtually doesn't mention any German suffering:
http://www.nizkor.org/other-sites/genocides.html
No mentioning of Germans at all. But after all, why bother about those
subhumans that according to Nizkor and related sources "gassed millions of
Jews"?!


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just  to
justify his existence to his ZYD masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZYD COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZYDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZYDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
for many years around the world.



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On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:01:09 GMT, "Princeandy"  wrote:

51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives 'both Palestinian and
Israeli' in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult not to
remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when examining
Zionism.

>http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch06.htm

>Hitler was history's flail to drive the stiff-necked Jews back to their own
>kind and their own land

>How many times have we heard the impious wish uttered in despair over the
>apathy of American Jews to Zionism, that a Hitler descend upon them? Then
>they would realize the need for Palestine! ([6]

>However, defeating Jabotinsky's resolution did not necessarily mean that the
>delegates favoured a deal with Hitler and, when the Nazis announced that
>they had signed an agreement with the Zionists allowing German Jews to ship
>three million Reichmarks' worth of Jewish wealth to Palestine in the form of
>German export goods, much of the Congress dismissed the statement as a
>propaganda stunt. When the truth became clear, pandemonium broke loose. The
>leadership had completely miscalculated and genuinely expected the pact to
>be immensely popular. Now, stunned by the hostile opposition, they tried to
>protect themselves by outright lying; the Labour leader, Berl Locker,
>brazenly proclaimed: "the executive of the World Zionist Organisation had
>nothing to do with the negotiations which led to an agreement with the
>German government". [17] No one believed this crude fabrication

>Read the Red Cross reports. Go to the Red Cross museum, headquarters
> in your city and pick up the records. Anyway theres a few independent
> witnesses.
>> http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndstats.html

>http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=news_international&Numbe
>> r=293321480
>> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=2735

>> http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htm

>> Rassinier seems to wrap it up.
>> http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.html

>During World WarII, Rassinier was a highly decorated member of the French
>Resistance. In October of 1943 he was arrested by the Gestapo for various
>activities including the smuggling of Jewish refugees over the Franco-Swiss
>border.  http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/PORT1RAS.HTML

>> http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v19/v19n2_Letters.html
>> On July 13, 1994, a documentary on the life of Charles A. Lindbergh
>> broadcast on the Public Broadcast System (PBS - KENW-TV) said that when
>> Lindbergh visited one of these few camps in Germany following WW2, he was
>> told that 25,000 died in 1-1/2 years
>> http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Timeline/lindbergh3.html

>http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html
>I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons
>with PhD's in various fields who also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence
> is forensic. Until recently, there was never a forensic examination of the alleged 
>murder weapon (gas chambers). Demographic figures are incomplete. After the fall
>of East Europe to communism, many of the millions of Jews who fled Poland
>into the Soviet Union or ended up behind the Iron Curtain changed their names 
>to assimilate, many civilians died in the war, many died in the
>concentration camps of louse-born typhus. During World War One, two million
>civilians in the Soviet Union died of typhus. Many died in Stalin's gulags.
>Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust
>Documentation Center in Israel has a database of  3,000,000 alleged victims
>of  Nazi extermination. But as you can see HERE
>(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly
>every name is listed at least twice, some as many as five times!
>http://www.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/IY_HON_Welcome

>Yad Vashem's 3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearly
>everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including
>you can submit a "Page of Testimony".

>And of course we have lists duplicated, unconfirmed, but 3m according to our
>usual jewish/Zionist sources.

>Put your name in, you might be missing out on reparations.

>Has been improvements since this, numbers still very dicey.

>Name                                  Town          District          Region
>Country          Bday          Source

>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1879         list of victims from Germany
>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1879         list of deportation from Berlin
>Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
>1905         list of deportation from Berlin

>It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with
>louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas) or diesel exhaust as alleged 
>by malicious "witnesses" or tortured confessors. There are no written orders for
>extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps
>show no smoke and flames belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged. 
>The photos and records show there was not enough coke or
>crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses" and confessors
>lied about how many minutes it takes to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust 
>does not contain significant amount of carbon monoxide to kill a human. If
>the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired
>train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed 'em with the exhaust from 
>the locomotive or used the exhaust from the crematoria. At Auschwitz, 
>during a typhus epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the 
>crematoria, shaving of heads and requisitions for tons of
>Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very dangerous, impractical, messy
>method for extermination.
>http://www.vho.org/
>The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate
>The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing,
>impractical/impossible, malicious atrocity propaganda spread by the communists, 
>who hated Hitler and perpetrated by Jews, who were always
>looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have
>extorted billions from the US Treasury, Germany, Swiss banks and insurance 
>companies on account of the Holohoax fraud. The Holohoax also makes
>those who fought Hitler feel like they did something good fighting the
>demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take
>on Stalin alone.

>A "liberal" person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.

>Without Jewish co operation through the zionists the Germans would never
>have had the resources to herd the Jews into the various camps. And the
>zionists made it impossible for the underground to trust the jews.
>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.

>http://www.geocities.com/chabaan_2000/safad.HTM
>Is The same authors also describe co-operation between Zionist leaders and
>Eichmann. It is interesting to note that the extreme right-wing revisionists
>only chose wealthy Jews for emigration, whereas other Zionists insisted on
>taking only young and healthy Jews. Eichmann helped them to carry out these
>plans, in return for which the Zionist Organization paid large sums to the
>Nazis. As Kimche says about the Zionist delegates in Germany: They had not
>come to Germany to save Jews. That was not their job. When the Nazis began
>the systematic murder of Jews in 1941, the Zionists decided neither to
>support Jewish resistance in Europe, nor to attack the Nazis, nor to say
>anything about the mass liquidation of their fellow Jews. Their sole purpose
>was to save certain selected Jews as future settlers in Palestine. They were
>not interested in Jews who wished to stay in their home countries and fight
>the Nazis.

>God told the jews the earthly struggles facing them if they didn't
>follow his lead. Well, they didn't and will continue to face Gods
>promise.




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Man muss wundern, wer hat die $32 MILLIONEN, wenn das Plant existiert nicht?
Ist GEKO vor der Pleite?

On Mon, 29 May 2006 12:14:42 -0600, Joe Bruno  wrote:

>In a half page headline story in the Edmonton Journal today in December, the
>report complains that even after more than 3 years, THERE IS STILL NOT EVEN
>THE START OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE GEKO GARBAGE COMPUTER 
>RECYCLING PLANT IN EDMONTON,CANADA!!

>Because of the non-existence of the GEKO recycling plant, there is now 3235
>tonnes of computers piled at the site. This has caused criticism from the
>Electronic Recycling Corporation of Alberta, who recycle usable computers for
>charities. They see the waste of usable computers in the open air stockpiles,
>in mud and water because GEKO is not functioning, as being against the best
>interests of the public, and charities.

>Dieter Obergfell, of GEKO, explaining from Essen, , now claims that
>construction MIGHT start this August, 3 years later than originally proposed.

>From: Ken Levi 
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>Subject: Re: GEKO-Who Is Pocketing Extra $28 MILLION?? WER
>PROFITIERT,Bundesfinanzamt?
>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:28:28 -0700

>When GEKO claims that they will be spending more than 10 TIMES what
>the successful competitor MAXUS paid for their plant, and when MAXUS
>even paid for their land which GEKO will not, one has to ask, WHO IS
>GETTING THE EXTRA 28 MILLIONEN??

>Has Bundesfinanzamt approved the removal of the more than 30 millionen
>from Germany?

>Have the shareholders of GEKO been given all the facts regarding the
>disappearance of this money from their control?
>
>
>On 9 Nov 2004 00:39:27 -0000, Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header
>(DanChristensen) wrote:
>
>>Here in Canada, people have another extremely interesting question, which manager of
>>GEKO Recycling Technologies Dieter Obergfell can not answer!!
>>WHY IS THE EDMONTON CANADA GARBAGE PROJECT FOR GEKO GOING TO COST 30 MILLIONEN,
>>since they do not have to pay for the land of 5 acres?
>
>>In the nearby community of Ryley, the competitor doing the same work,
>>MAXUS TECHNOLOGTY CORPORATION, paid under
>>$3 millionen, which included the cost for their land!!
>
>>WHO IS POCKETING THE EXTRA $27 MILLIONEN? WER PROFITIERT?
>
>
>>An interesting question for Deutsche Bundesfinanzamt - Did GEKO pay the taxes 
>>in Germany, on the 30 million they say they will spend/lose
>>in Edmonton, Canada?
>
>
>>A local paper in Edmonton,Canada is reporting that the firm GEKO, division of DiHAG/GEKO
>>is supposed to be spending $30 million for a computer recycling plant at the 
>>local garbage dump.
>
>>It is not clear why GEKO are building this overpriced facility.
>
>>For more than 3 years, a competitor, MAXUS Technology Corporation, has been in 
>>business in a nearby town.
>>MAXUS have also made contracts with communities throughout western Canada and 
>>also the USA, to have trainloads of computers and similar
>>materials available for processing, leaving next to no product for GEKO!!
>
>>Because GEKO did NOT build when they said they would, 2 years ago, the mayor 
>>was defeated in his bid for re- election this week!!
>
>
>>Subject: Germany Continues Boycott of Deadmonton
>>Date: 1999/07/25
>>Message-ID: <199907251430.QAA17273@mail.replay.com>#1/1
>>Newsgroups: edm.general,ab.general,soc.culture.german
>
>>The media report that no businesses from Germany bothered
>>to attend this year's Klondike Days in Deadmonton, (Edmonton)Canada
>
>>Even though GERMANY was the featured nation.
>
>>Could this perhaps have something to do with the snubbing
>>by Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH Smith, of the international trade
>>delegation from Germany, whom he REFUSED to meet?
>
>>Smith refused to meet with the large delegation of people from Berlin,
>>who had been scheduled by both the provincial government trade office,
>>as well as City Hall.
>
>>The trade delegation after being snubbed by Smith, then went on to
>>Calgary, where they were welcomed. They also did do considerable
>>business, in the pro-business city, unlike the welfare  dump of
>>Deadmonton.
>
>>This INTERNATIONAL INCIDENT was documented in detail in the
>>Edmonton Journal 3 times - 1 December 1995 on page B2,
>>on 12 January 1996 on page B3, and again on 28 March 1996 on page A14.
>
>>The media in Germany carried many articles, denouncing the
>>anti-German actions of Burgermeister ARSCHLOCH.
>
>>It seems that even though slick Willy squanders piles of
>>taxpayer dollars wining and dining and traipsing off to
>>Germany, the businesspeople there still remember him as
>>Burgermeister Arschloch.
>
>>That is why Deadmonton is still blackballed by thinking Germans.
>
>>Now, slick Willy is trying to con some Germans running GEKO to
>>build a recycling plant for computers, WITHOUT TELLING THEM THAT
>>THEY ARE TOO LATE!!
>
>>Another local firm MAXUS TECHNOLOGY INC. has built a multi-million dollar 
>>facility near Edmonton, already operating, to handle millions of tonnes of old computers from all over 
>>Canada and the USA!!
>
>>Are Germans so stupid as to believe a mayor, whose own business as
>>a used tire dealer went under?? Ask Michelin about B & D Tiretown,
>>or even ask Jan Reimer who brought it up in the election campaign...
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:45:36 GMT, "Godzilla Pimp"  wrote:

>From: http://snipurl.com/dzm1

>"German prosecutors have provoked outrage by ruling that the 1945 RAF 
>bombing of Dresden can legally be termed a "holocaust"."

>Well duh, it certainly was a holocaust if anything ever was (From Greek 
>holokaustos, burnt whole). They burned the whole city and everyone in it, 
>among other cities like Hamburg.

>Besides, the Jews were not burned to death but supposedly gassed, according 
>the final version of the fable (earlier ones included mass electrocution and 
>steaming). No evidence of gas chambers has ever been found, of course, 
>because they never existed. But the Jews have a talent for getting the dumb 
>"goyim" (cattle) to believe in such myths of murdered Jewish heroes, 
>Christianity being the most notable one.

>GP 

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:58:40 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
phantomK777@webtv.net (Whitey Loughmiller) wrote:

Dresden
Kevin Alfred Strom

The night of February 13th, and February 14th, Valentine's Day, mark an
ominous anniversary in the history of Western Civilization. For
beginning on the night of February 13th, 1945, occurred the destruction
of Dresden. 

On the eve of Valentine's Day, 1945, World War II in Europe was nearly
over. For all practical purposes Germany was already defeated. Italy,
and Germany's other European allies, had fallen by the wayside. The Red
Army was rushing to occupy vast areas of what had been Germany in the
East, while the allies of the Soviets, the British and Americans, were
bombing what was left of Germany's defenses and food and transportation
infrastructure into nonexistence. 

And what was Dresden? Most of you have probably heard of Dresden China,
and that delicately executed and meticulously detailed porcelain is
really a perfect symbol for that city. 

For centuries Dresden had been a center of art and culture, and refined
leisure and recreation. She was a city of art museums and theatres,
circuses and sports stadia, a town of ancient half-timbered buildings
looking for all the world like those of medieval England, with venerable
churches and centuries-old cathedrals gracing her skyline. She was a
city of artists and craftsmen, of actors and dancers, of tourists and
the merchants and hotels that served them. 
Above all, what Dresden was, was defined during the war by what she was
not. She had no significant military or industrial installations.
Because of this, Dresden had become, above all other things that she
was, a city of children, of women, of refugees, and of the injured and
maimed who were recovering from their wounds in her many hospitals. 

These women and children, these wounded soldiers, these infirm and
elderly people, these refugees fleeing from the brutal onslaught of the
Communist armies to the East, had come to Dresden because it was
commonly believed at the time that Dresden would not be attacked. Its
lack of strategic or military or industrial significance, and the
well-known presence of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian
refugees and even Allied prisoners of war, seemed to guarantee safety to
the city. Surely, it was thought, not even a the most powerful and
determined enemy would be so depraved and sadistic, and so wasteful of
that enemy's own resources, to attack such a city. But the people of
Dresden, who were happily attending the cinema or eating dinner at home
or watching the show-horses in the circus on that fateful night were
wrong, wrong, wrong. And their leaders were also wrong, for the city was
virtually open and undefended and only minimal civil defense
preparations had been made. 

Dresden's population had almost doubled in the months before the attack,
mainly as a result of the influx of refugees from the Eastern Front,
most of them women and young children. 

According to British historian David Irving, the briefings given to the
British bomber squadrons before the attack on Dresden were curiously
different. In one, the soldiers were told that their target was the
railway center of Dresden. In another, they were told that the target
was a poison-gas factory. In yet another, they were told that the target
was a marshalling-grounds for troops in the city. Another was told that
the target was a major arsenal. These were all lies. 
The only marshalling-grounds for what few troops were in the area were
located well outside the city. The arsenal had burned down in 1916.
There were factories for toothpaste and baby-powder in Dresden, but none
for poison gas. There were, in fact, no fewer than eighteen railway
stations in Dresden, but only one was hit by the bombing, and that was
barely touched and in fact was operating again just three days later. 

According to copious documentation unearthed by David Irving from the
archives of the American and British governments, the point of the
attack was in fact to inflict the maximum loss of life on the civilian
population and particularly to kill as many refugees as possible who
were fleeing from the Red Army. In achieving these goals it was highly
successful. It was thus planned and executed by those at the very
highest levels of the British and American governments, who to attain
their purposes even lied to their own soldiers and citizens, who to this
day have never been told the full story by their leaders. 
How was this devastating effect accomplished? 
At 10:10 PM on February 13th, the first wave of the attack, consisting
of the British Number 5 Bomber Group, began. The attacking force
consisted of about 2,000 bombers with additional support craft, which
dropped over 3,000 high explosive and 650,000 incendiary bombs (more
commonly known as firebombs) on the center of the city. Incendiary bombs
are not known for their efficiency per pound in destroying heavy
equipment such as military hardware or railroad tracks, but are
extremely effective in producing maximum loss of human life. The loads
carried by the bombers were over 75 per cent incendiaries. In fact, the
goal of the first wave of the attack was, according to British air
commander Sir Arthur Bomber Harris, to set the city well on fire. That
he did. 

The lack of any effective anti-aircraft defenses allowed the bombers to
drop to very low altitudes and thus a relatively high degree of
precision and visual identification of targets was achieved. Despite the
fact that they could clearly see that the marked target area contained
hospitals and sports stadia and residential areas of center city
Dresden, the bombers nevertheless obeyed orders and rained down a fiery
death upon the unlucky inhabitants of that city on a scale which had
never before been seen on planet Earth. 

Hundreds of thousands of innocents were literally consumed by fire, an
actual holocaust by the true definition of the word: complete
consumption by fire. 
  
 
 Dresden after its holocaust
The incendiaries started thousands of fires and, aided by a stiff wind
and the early-on destruction of the telephone exchanges that might have
summoned firefighters from nearby towns, these fires soon coalesced into
one unimaginably huge firestorm. Now such firestorms are not natural
phenomena, and are seldom created by man, so few people have any idea of
their nature. Basically, what happened was this: The intense heat caused
by the huge column of smoke and flame, miles high and thousands of acres
in area, created a terrific updraft of air in the center of the column. 
This created a very low pressure at the base of the column, and
surrounding fresh air rushed inward at speeds estimated to be thirty
times that of an ordinary tornado. An ordinary tornado wind-force is a
result of temperature differences of perhaps 20 to 30 degrees
centigrade. In this firestorm the temperature differences were on the
order of 600 to 1,000 degrees centigrade. This inward-rushing air
further fed the flames, creating a literal tornado of fire, with winds
in the surrounding area of many hundreds of miles per hour -- sweeping
men, women, children, animals, vehicles and uprooted trees pell-mell
into the glowing inferno. 

But this was only the first stage of the plan. 
Exactly on schedule, three hours after the first attack, a second
massive armada of British bombers arrived, again loaded with high
explosive and massive quantities of incendiary bombs. The residents of
Dresden, their power systems destroyed by the first raid, had no warning
of the second. Again the British bombers attacked the center city of
Dresden, this time dividing their targets  -- one half of the bombs
were to be dropped into the center of the conflagration, to keep it
going, the other half around the edges of the firestorm. No pretense
whatever was made of selecting military targets. The timing of the
second armada was such as to ensure that a large quantity of the
surviving civilians would have emerged from their shelters by that time,
which was the case, and also in hopes that rescue and firefighting crews
would have arrived from surrounding cities, which also proved to be
true. The firefighters and medics thus incinerated hadn't needed the
telephone exchange to know that they were needed -- the firestorm was
visible from a distance of 200 miles. 

It is reported that body parts, pieces of clothing, tree branches, huge
quantities of ashes, and miscellaneous debris from the firestorm fell
for days on the surrounding countryside as far away as eighteen miles.
After the attack finally subsided, rescue workers found nothing but
liquefied remains of the inhabitants of some shelters, where even the
metal kitchen utensils had melted from the intense heat. 

The next day, Ash Wednesday and Valentine's Day, 1945, medical and other
emergency personnel from all over central Germany had converged on
Dresden. Little did they suspect that yet a third wave of bombers was on
its way, this time American. This attack had been carefully coordinated
with the previous raids. Four hundred fifty Flying Fortresses and a
support contingent of fighters arrived to finish the job at noon. I
quote from David Irving's The Destruction of Dresden: 

"Just a few hours before Dresden had been a fairy-tale city of spires
and cobbled streets .... now total war had put an end to all that.
..The ferocity of the US raid of 14th February had finally brought the
people to their knees... but it was not the bombs which finally
demoralised the people ... it was the Mustang fighters, which suddenly
appeared low over the city, firing on everything that moved .... one
section of the Mustangs concentrated on the river banks, where masses of
bombed-out people had gathered. ... British prisoners who had been
released from their burning camps were among the first to suffer the
discomfort of machine-gunning attacks .... wherever columns of tramping
people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced on by the
fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire." [Image: Dresden
skyline after Allied saturation bombing.] 

Ladies and gentlemen, on this program I can only give you a bare glimpse
of the inhuman horror of the holocaust of Dresden. In Dresden, no fewer
than 135,000 innocent victims died, with some estimates as high as
300,000. More died in Dresden than died in the well-known attacks on
Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 

More destruction befell Dresden in one day than was inflicted on the
whole of Britain during the entire war. And yet you haven't been told. 

I urge every one of you to read The Destruction of Dresden by David
Irving. I assure you, after reading Irving's book, you will never take
seriously the Establishment's version of what happened in that war
again. 

What you ought to take seriously, though, is the fact that the same
clique that controlled the traitorous Roosevelt and Churchill
governments, whose hatred of our race and civilization and whose
alliance with Communism were the real causes of the holocaust of
Dresden, still controls our government and our media today. It is they
who are pushing for a disarmed, racially mixed America. It is they who
promote the teaching of sodomy to our young children. It is they who are
destroying our industrial infrastructure in the name of a global
economy. It is they who created the drug subculture and then also the
police state agencies which pretend to fight it. 

The hour is very late for America and indeed for all of Western
civilization. But if patriots will heed our call, then there is no
reason for despair. For the enemies of our nation may have power, but
their power is based on lies. Won't you help us cut through the chain of
lies that holds our people in mental slavery? 
Every year, families should commemorate the anniversary of the holocaust
of Dresden on the eve of 13th February. 

Free Speech --  David Irving has generously made his Destruction of
Dresden available as a free download, in PDF format, at his Focal Point
Press website.

--- 
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prizes would fall out of him. " 

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If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved. 

If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed." 

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It is not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved . " 

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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg 
wrote:

>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.

>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID  COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!

>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!

>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:

>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.

>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.


>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>>wrote:

>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>>                alone with your children?


>>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!

>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next "relocation"!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.

>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski

>> Herman


>First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me

>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant


>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.



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On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:14:11 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>The poster using Frank Arthur  IS  a fraud.
>"Grosvomit of Canada" often uses many fraudulent names.
There is no such poster.

>Garbage like me causes distrust among readers here.

>I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup. The 
>pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.


You are a disgusting pervert, and a LIAR, since you regularly post to this,
and other newsgroups, many hundreds of articles each day!!

>The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray tab:
>Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

Lunatic - there are no gray tabs in newsgroup articles!!




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Thanks for re-posting the entire article, so that more people can read it, 
and discuss the topic.

On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 23:12:46 GMT, "Marek Maciej  Ziemba"
 wrote:

>snipped

>"ArthurFranks"  wrote in message 
>news:hkqs23hsohblh0ir3vrcel37sbt3oge8v7@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:59:13 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc egon-karl 
>> ullrich
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Ein Teil der Auflösung des 'Rätsel - ja-wie-kann-denn-der-sowas-sagen-?'
>> ist ja bereits veröffentlicht im Artikelstran "Der Jude ist ein Parasit"
>> (wer lesen kann und will ist klar im Vorteil, der meist dämliche Spruch
>> trifft hier mal wirklich zu), dort gibts auch ein zion. Original-Buch
>> zum runterladen:
>>
>> Es handelt sich in den "Subjects" um Zitate aus der zionistischen
>> Literatur von zionistischen Philosophen und zion. Vordenkern bzw. aus
>> der unangefochtenen Fachliteratur über den Zionismus bzw. über die zion.
>> Ideologie. Und die zitierten sind noch harmlos, statt "dreckiger Hund",
>> kann man auch übersetzen "stinkender Hund", lt. 'LEO.dict'
>>
>> Wer meine Schriften kennt, dem war das auch von Anfang an klar. Anfänger
>> und Deppen gibts aber auch hier in dieser NG.
>>
>>
>> Hier der Beweis aus dem marxistischen Bereich (eigentl. jüd.-marx.
>> Bereich) des Herkunftsjuden Lenni Brenner, Wissenschaftsjournalist:
>>
>> (aus dem Englischen)
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> Lenni Brenner
>>
>> Zionismus im Zeitalter der Diktatoren
>> (Zionism in the Age of the Dictators)
>>
>>
>> 2. Blut und Boden (Blood and Soil)
>>
>>
>> Die Wurzeln des zionistischen Rassismus
>>
>>
>> Es war der Antisemitismus - alleine - welcher den Zionismus begründete.
>> Herzl konnte seine Bewegung in keiner Weise auf irgendeinem positiven
>> jüdischen Selbstverständnis aufbauen.
>>
>> Obwohl er die Unterstützung durch die Rabbiner anstrebte, war er
>> persönlich nicht gläubig. Er hatte kein besonderes Interesse an
>> Palästina, dem antiken Heimatland; er war ganz erpicht darauf, daß das
>> kenianische Hochland akzeptiert wird, zumindest auf einer zeitweiligen
>> Grundlage. Er hatte kein Interesse an Hebräisch; er betrachtete seinen
>> jüdischen Staat als ein sprachliches Abbild der Schweiz.
>>
>> Der Rassengedanke lag für ihn in der Luft; die deutschen Antisemiten
>> sprachen von den Juden als Rasse, bald jedoch verwarf er diese Doktrin
>> und nutzte in einer paradoxen Diskussion Israel Zangwill, einen seiner
>> frühesten Gefolgsleute, als ein Beispiel für seine Ablehnung dieser
>> Idee. Er beschrieb den englisch-jüdischen Autor so:
>>
>> "... vom langnasigen Neger-Typ, mit wolligem, tief-schwarzem Haar ... er
>> stützt jedoch den Rassegedanken - manches daran kann ich gelten lassen,
>> ich muß lediglich ihn und dann wieder mich anschauen. Alles was ich
>> sagen kann: wir sind eine historische Einheit, eine Nation mit
>> anthropologischer Vielfalt." [1]
>>
>>
>> Unbekümmert von religiösen Überlegungen, schlug er einen Atheisten, den
>> damals weltberühmten Autor Max Nordau, als seinen Nachfolger als
>> Präsident der WZO (Zionistische Weltorganisation) vor.
>>
>>
>> Und wieder waren die Jünger weniger liberal als ihr Herr.
>>
>> Nordau war mit einer Christin verheiratet und befürchtete, daß sich die
>> Orthodoxen auf allen Ebenen daran stoßen würden. Er war bereits
>> verheiratet, als er zum Zionismus konvertierte und wurde bald, trotz
>> seiner nichtjüdischen Ehefrau, ein anerkannter jüdischer Rassist.
>>
>> Am 21. Dezember 1903 gab er Eduard Drumonts radikal antisemitischer
>> Zeitung 'La Libre Parole' ein Interview, in welchem er sagte, daß der
>> Zionismus keine Sache der Religion sondern der Rassen-Exklusivität sei
>> und "es gibt keinen, mit welchem ich in größerer Übereinstimmung in
>> diesem Punkt stehe, als M. Drupont". [3]
>>
>> Obwohl sich nur ein einziger nationaler Ableger der WZO (der
>> holländische Verband im Jahr 1913) jemals darum bemühte, die Juden,
>> welche in gemischten Ehen lebten, auszuschließen, starb der
>> kosmopolitische Zionismus einen frühen Tod mit Herzl im Jahr 1904. [4]
>>
>>
>> Die Bewegung in Osteuropa, ihre Massenbasis, teilte die spontanen
>> volks-religiösen Vorurteile der orthodoxen Gemeinden ihres Umfeldes.
>>
>> Obwohl die traditionellen Juden Missionierung kannten und Ehen mit
>> Nicht-Juden als Verstärkung ihrer Glaubenskraft ansahen, brachte später
>> von der katholischen Kirche ausgehender Druck die Rabbiner dazu,
>> Konvertierungen als "lästiges Jucken" zu betrachten und sie stellten die
>> Missionierung ein.
>>
>> Im Laufe der Jahrhunderte, wurde die Selbst-Abgrenzung zum Kennzeichen
>> der Juden. Mit der Zeit betrachteten die Massen Mischehen als Verrat an
>> der Orthodoxie. Obwohl im Westen nur manche Juden die Religion
>> abwandelten und "Reform"-Sekten bildeten sowie andere sich vom Gott
>> ihrer Vorväter gänzlich abwandten, ging der Lauf im Wesentlichen weg vom
>> Judaismus.
>>
>> Wenige nur stießen zur jüdischen Welt hinzu, entweder durch
>> Konvertierung oder Heiraten.
>>
>> Obschon der westliche Zionismus sich in einer mehr säkularen Atmosphäre
>> entwickelte als jener Ost-Europas, betrachtete die Masse seiner
>> Mitglieder Misch-Ehen eher als Wegführung der Juden von der Gemeinde
>> denn als Hinzufügung zu ihr.
>>
>> Die deutschen Akademiker, welche die zionistische Bewegung nach Herzls
>> Tod übernahmen, entwickelten die modernistisch-rassistische Ideologie
>> vom jüdischen Separatismus [Loslösungsstreben].
>>
>> Sie waren stark beeinflußt von ihren pan-germanischen Studenten-Kollegen
>> der 'Wandervögel' (Zugvögel oder Freigeister), welche den deutschen
>> Campus vor 1914 dominierten. Diese Chauvinisten wiesen die Juden als
>> nicht von germanischem Blut zurück; folglich konnten sie niemals Teil
>> des Deutschen Volkes sein und waren grundsätzlich Fremde auf deutschem
>> Boden. Alle jüdischen Studenten waren gezwungen, sich mit diesen
>> Konzepten, welche sie umringten, auseinander zu setzen.
>>
>> Ein paar bewegten sich nach links und wurden Sozialdemokraten. Für jene
>> war dies [der Wandervögel-Chauvinismus, Anm. eku] nur ein mehr
>> bourgeoiser Nationalismus und war als solcher zu bekämpfen.
>>
>> Die meisten blieben herkömmlich kaisertreu, standhafte Nationalisten,
>> welche darauf beharrten, daß tausend Jahre auf deutschem Boden aus ihnen
>> "Deutsche mosaischen Glaubens" gemacht hatten.
>>
>> Aber ein Anteil der jüdischen Studenten eignete sich die
>> 'Wandervögel'-Ideologie an und übertrug sie einfach in zionistische
>> Terminologie.
>>
>> Sie stimmten mit den Antisemiten in mehreren Punkten überein: die Juden
>> waren kein Teil des Deutschen Volkes und, natürlich, Juden und Deutsche
>> sollten sich nicht geschlechtlich vermischen, nicht aus den traditionell
>> religiösen Gründen, sondern um der Reinheit ihres eigenen einzigartigen
>> Blutes willen.
>>
>> Da nicht von deutschem Blut, hätten sie zwangsläufig ihren eigenen Boden
>> zu bekommen: Palästina.
>>
>> Auf den ersten Blick schien es befremdlich, daß jüdische Studenten aus
>> der Mittel-Klasse derart beeinflußt durch antisemitisches Gedankengut
>> sein sollten, besonders, da zur selben Zeit der Sozialismus mit seiner
>> assimilationistischen Haltung gegenüber den Juden beträchtliche
>> Unterstützung in der Gesellschaft um sie herum gewann.
>>
>> Der Sozialismus appelierte jedoch vorwiegend an die Arbeiter, nicht an
>> die Mittel-Klasse; in ihrer Umwelt herrschte der Chauvinismus vor,
>> obwohl intellektuell, lehnten sie ihre Verbindung zum Deutschen Volk ab,
>> und in der Tat, niemals emanzipierten sie sich von der deutschen
>> Kapitalistenklasse, den ganzen Ersten Weltkrieg hindurch unterstüzten
>> sie leidenschaftlich ihre eigene Regierung.
>>
>>
>> [Anm. eku: s.a. "Max-Bodenheimer-Archiv". Deutsche Zionisten bilden im
>> 1. WK mittels maßgeblicher Beteiligung der Kölner Fam. Bodenheimer
>> (=zionistisches Establishment) Unterstützungskommitee, dieses reist an
>> die Ostfront, bildet Judenräte in den befreiten Gebieten Polens, nennt
>> die Juden Europas "Deutsche" oder "deutschenfreundlich" und - nicht
>> zuletzt - sitzt buchstäblich als Ehren-Gast an Kaisers Esstisch!]
>>
>>
>> In all ihrem grandiosen intellektuellen Anspruch, war ihr völkischer
>> Zionismus doch nur einfach eine Imitation der deutschen
>> nationalistischen Ideologie. Deshalb war der junge Philosoph Martin
>> Buber fähig, während dem Ersten Weltkrieg den Zionismus mit inbrünstigem
>> deutschen Patriotismus zu verbinden.
>>
>> In seinem Buch 'Drei Reden über das Judentum', veröffentlicht im Jahre
>> 1911, sprach Buber über einen Jugendlichen, der:
>>
>> "einen Sinn hat für die Unsterblichkeit der Generationen einer
>> Blutgemeinschaft, welche er als Vorgänger seines Ich empfindet, dessen
>> Ausdauer wird unendlich währen.
>>
>> Hinzu kommt die Entdeckung, befördert durch sein Bewußtsein, daß Blut
>> eine tief verwurzelte, nährende Kraft im Inneren jedes einzelnen
>> Menschen ist;
>>
>> daß die tiefsten Schichten unseres Seins vom Blut bestimmt sind;
>>
>> daß unser innerstes Denken und unser Wille davon gefärbt sind.
>>
>> Jetzt findet er heraus, daß die Welt um ihn eine Welt der Eindrücke und
>> Einflüsse ist, wohingegen Blut das Reich einer beeinflußbaren und
>> beeindruckbaren Substanz ist, einer Sustanz die alles in ihre eigene
>> Form aufnimmt und anpasst, und, wer auch immer, vor die Wahl, Umgebung
>> oder Blut gestellt, sich für die Substanz entscheidet, fortan ein wahrer
>> Jude aus seinem Innersten sein muß, um zu leben als ein Jude mit all den
>> Widersprüchen, der Tragödie und all der späteren Verheißung seines
>> Blutes" [5]
>>
>> [Anm. eku: naturgemäß unvollkommene Rückübersetzung, werde noch
>> versuchen, den Originaltext Bubers zu bekommen...]
>>
>> Die Juden leben in Europa seit Jahrtausenden, weit länger, sagen wir
>> mal, als die Ungarn. Niemand träumte davon, sich auf die Ungarn als
>> Asiaten zu beziehen, jedoch, so Buber, die Juden Europas wären noch
>> Asiaten und würden es voraussichtlich immer bleiben.
>>
>> "Du kannst den Juden aus Palästina rauskriegen, aber niemals Palästina
>> raus aus dem Juden."
>>
>>
>> Im Jahr 1916 schrieb Buber, daß der Jude:
>>
>> "vertrieben wurde aus seinem Land und über die Länder des Abendlandes
>> verstreut wurde, jedoch, trotz all dem, blieb er ein Orientale. Man kann
>> all dies im noch so sehr assimlierten Juden entdecken, wenn man Zugang
>> zu seiner Seele gewinnt ... der unvergängliche, allen Juden gemeinsame
>> Trieb - dieser wird in das Sein einkehren nach einer Fortdauer des
>> Lebens in Palästina ... Sobald der Trieb mit seiner Mutters Scholle in
>> Berührung kommt, wird er wieder schöpferisch." [6]
>>
>> Bubers völkischer Zionismus, mit seinen ausgesuchten Strängen mystischen
>> Überschwangs, war jedoch zu vergeistigt um ein breites Publikum
>> anzusprechen.
>>
>> Was gebraucht wurde, war eine populäre zionistische Version des
>> Sozial-Darwinismus, welcher die bourgoise intellektuelle Welt des
>> aufbrechenden europäischen imperialen Wettbewerbs nach Afrika und nach
>> Osten überschwemmte.
>>
>> Die zionistische Version dieser Auffassung wurde von dem
>> österreichischen Anthropologen Ignatz Zollschan entwickelt. Für ihn war
>> der verborgene Nutzen des Judaismus, daß jener, obgleich unabsichtlich,
>> das Wunder der Wunder bewirken würde:
>>
>> "Eine Nation von reinem Blut, unverdorben von den Krankheiten des
>> Exzesses oder der Unmoral, von einem hoch entwickelten Sinn für
>> familiäre Reinheit und von tief verwurzelten tugendhaften Gewohnheiten
>> würde eine außergewöhnliche geistige Regsamkeit entwickeln.
>> Darüberhinaus sorgt das Verbot der Mischehen dafür, daß dieser
>> höchst-ethische Schatz durch reinmixen von weniger umsichtig
>> hervorgebrachten Rassen nicht verloren geht ... daraus resultiert eine
>> naturgemäße Auswahl, welche keine Parallele in der Geschichte der
>> menschlichen Rasse findet ... Wenn eine Rasse, die so hoch beschenkt
>> ist, die Gelegenheit bekommt, erneut ihre ursprüngliche Kraft zu
>> entwickeln, kann dem nichts gleichkommen, soweit es den kulturellen Wert
>> anbelangt." [7]
>>
>> Sogar Albert Einstein unterschrieb die zionistischen Rassenkonzepte,
>> damit verstärkte er den Rassismus und verlieh ihm das Prestige seiner
>> Reputation. Seine eigenen Beiträge zur Diskussion klingen entsprechend
>> tiefsinnig, sie beruhen jedoch auf dem selben Unsinn.
>>
>> "Nationen mit rassischen Unterschieden scheinen Instinkte zu besitzen,
>> welche gegen ihre Verschmelzung wirken. Die Assimilation der Juden in
>> die europäischen Nationen ... konnte nicht das Gefühl eines Mangels an
>> Verwandtschaft zwischen ihnen und jenen, unter denen sie lebten,
>> beseitigen. Letzten Endes ist das instinktive Gefühl des fehlenden
>> Verwandschaftsverhältnisses auf das Gesetz der Energieerhaltung
>> zurückzuführen. Aus diesem Grund kann es [das instinktive Mangelgefühl,
>> Anm. eku] durch keinen noch so wohlmeinenden Druck ausgerottet werden." 
>> [8]
>>
>> Buber, Zollschan und Einstein waren nur drei der klassischen Zionisten,
>> welche hochtrabend gelehrt über Rassen-Reinheit redeten. Jedoch konnte
>> der schiere Fanatismus Einiger nicht den des Amerikaners Maurice Samuel
>> einholen.
>>
>> Als ein gut bekannter Autor jener Zeit - später, in den 1940er Jahren
>> arbeitete er mit Weizman an dessen Autobiographie - wendete sich Samuel
>> im Jahre 1927 in seinem Werk, 'Ich, der Jude', an die amerikanische
>> Öffentlichkeit. Er denunzierte mit Horror eine Stadt, der er
>> bereitwillig zugestand, daß er sie nur vom Hörensagen kannte - und von
>> der uns die vorgelegten Hinweise nahelegen, daß es sich um die
>> ungebunden lebende Künstler-Kolonie bei Taos, Neu-Mexiko, handelt:
>>
>> "Auf diesem kleinen Platz kamen Repräsentanten der afrikanischen Neger,
>> der Amerikaner und der chinesischen Mongolen zusammen, der Semite und
>> der Arier ... freie Mischehen setzen sich durch ... Warum erfüllt mich
>> dieses Bild, teils wirklich, teils phantastisch, mit einem befremdenden
>> Abscheu, suggeriert es das Ekelerregende, das düstere Bestialische? ...
>> Wieso ruft dieses Dorf, wie meine Phantasie heraufbeschwört, den
>> Gedanken an einen Haufen Reptilien hervor, die hässlich in einem
>> Wasserkübel brüten?" [9]
>>
>>
>>
>> "Um ein guter Zionist zu sein, muß man ein bißchen Antisemit sein"
>>
>>
>> Obwohl 'Blut' ein wiederkehrendes Thema in der zionistischen
>> vor-Holokaust-Literatur war, war dieses nicht so zentral wie die
>> Botschaft vom 'Boden'.
>>
>> Solange Amerikas Grenzen [relativ, Anm. eku] offen blieben, fragten
>> Europas Juden: wenn der Antisemitismus nicht in seiner Heimat bekämpft
>> werden konnte, warum sollten sie nicht einfach der Menge nach Amerika
>> folgen?
>>
>> Die zionistische Antwort war doppelt gewappnet: Antisemitismus würde die
>> Juden begleiten, wohin immer sie auch gingen, und, darüberhinaus, es
>> waren die Juden selbst, welche den Antisemitismus durch ihre eigene
>> Charackteristik hervor riefen.
>>
>> Die Wurzel des Antisemitismus, beharrten die Zionisten, war die jüdische
>> Exil-Existenz.
>>
>> Die Juden lebten parasitär von ihren "Wirtsvölkern". Es gäbe so gut wie
>> keine jüdischen Bauern in der Diaspora. Die Juden lebten in den Städten,
>> sie waren der manuellen Arbeit entfremdet, oder, um es unverblümt zu
>> sagen, sie mieden diese und beschäftigten sich lieber mit
>> intellektuellen oder kommerziellen Angelegenheiten. Ihre Beanspruchung
>> des Patriotismus war bestenfalls hohl, da sie ewig von Land zu Land
>> wanderten. Und als sie selbst sich einbildeten, sie wären Sozialisten
>> und Internationalisten, waren sie in Wirklichkeit nicht mehr als die
>> Mittelsmänner der Revolution, welche die "Schlachten anderer Leute"
>> ausfochten.
>>
>> Diese zusammengefaßten Lehren waren bekannt als 'Shelilat Ha'galut' [Die
>> Verneinung der Diaspora], an der sich das gesamte Spektrum der Zionisten
>> festhielt, nur in Details variiert.
>>
>> Sie wurden in der zionistischen Presse energisch vertreten, in der die
>> ausgeprägte Qualität vieler Artikel aus der Feindseligkeit gegenüber dem
>> gesamten jüdischen Volk bestand. Wenn irgendjemand diese Fetzen ohne
>> Kenntnis der Quellen las, würde er automatisch vermuten, daß sie der
>> antisemitischen Presse entstammten.
>>
>> Die 'Weltanschauung' der Jugendorganisation 'Hashomer Hatzair' [Junge
>> Wächter], ursprünglich verfaßt im Jahr 1917, allerdings erst 1936 wieder
>> neu veröffentlicht, war typisch für diese Art Ergüsse:
>>
>> "Der Jude ist die Karikatur eines normalen, natürlichen Menschen, in
>> physischer wie spiritueller Hinsicht. Als Einzelwesen in der
>> Gesellschaft rebelliert er und wirft die gesellschaftlichen Bindungen
>> ab, er kennt weder Ordnung noch Disziplin." [10]
>>
>>
>> Ganz ähnlich konnte so im Jahre 1935 Ben Frommer, ein Autor der
>> ultra-rechten zionistisch-revisionistischen Bewegung, nicht weniger als
>> 16 Millionen seiner Mit-Juden [offenbar wurde seine Erklärung weltweit
>> verbreitet, Anm. eku] erklären, daß:
>>
>> "Die Tatsache ist unabweisbar, daß die Juden kollektiv krank und
>> neurotisch sind. Jene Berufs-Juden, welche nun erschüttert diese
>> Wahrheit entrüstet zurückweisen, sind die größten Feinde ihrer Rasse,
>> denn sie führen sie dadurch auf die Suche nach falschen Lösungen oder
>> zumeist nur nach Beschönigungen." [11]
>>
>> Diese Art des jüdischen Selbsthasses durchsetzte einen großen Teil des
>> zionistischen Schrifttums.
>>
>> Im Jahre 1934 erregte Yehezkel Kaufman - damals berühmt als Gelehrter
>> für biblische Geschichte an der Hebräischen Universität zu Jerusalem,
>> und obwohl selbst Zionist, dennoch ein Gegner der bizarren Theorie der
>> Negation der Diaspora - wütende Kontroversen durch eine Auswahl der
>> hebräischen Literatur mit noch schlimmeren Beispielen.
>>
>> Auf Hebräisch konnten die pathetischen Schreiber ihre Mit-Juden ohne
>> Furcht vor dem Vorwurf, den Judenhassern Munition zu liefern, regelrecht
>> zur Sau machen. Kaufmans 'Hurban Hanefesh' (Holokaust der Seele) zitiert
>> dazu drei der klassisch-zionistischen Vordenker.
>>
>> Für Micah Yosef Berdichevsky waren die Juden "keine Nation, kein Volk,
>> keine Menschen".
>>
>> Für Yosef Chaim Brenner waren sie nicht mehr als "Zigeuner, dreckige
>> Hunde, nicht-menschlich, erbärmliche Hunde".
>>
>> Für Aaron David Gordon war sein Volk nicht besser als "Parasiten,
>> grundsätzlich unnütze Leute". [12]
>>
>> [Anm. eku: dieses Buch Kaufmans, wohl als eine Kritik an den
>> zionistischen Pöbeleien gemeint, hatte Julius Streicher lt. Text der
>> Webseite der frommen, ultra-orthodoxen Juden, JewsAgainstZionism,
>> gekannt, aus dieser Quell hatte Streicher offenbar eine Reihe seiner
>> Beschreibungen und Ausdrücke für die Juden gewonnen]
>>
>> Natürlich mußte Maurice Samuel seine Schönschrift einbringen, um
>> Verleumdungen gegen seine Mit-Juden zusammen zu brauen.
>>
>> Im Jahr 1924 fabrizierte er in seinem Werk 'Ihr Nicht-Juden' (You
>> Gentiles) eine von ihrem eigenen bösartigen Schöpfer gegen die
>> christliche Ordnung angetriebene Judenheit:
>>
>> "Wir Juden, wir, die Zerstörer, werden für immer die Zerstörer bleiben.
>> Egal was ihr macht, nie wird es unserem Anspruch genügen. Ewig werden
>> wir zerstören, denn wir brauchen unsere eigene Welt, eine Gottes-Welt,
>> zu deren Erschaffung ihr nicht veranlagt seid ... jene von uns, welche
>> diese Wahrheit nicht begreifen, werden sich immer wiederfinden in
>> Allianz mit euren rebellischen Gruppen, bis die Desillusionierung kommt,
>> unser elendes Schicksal, welches uns in eurer Mitte verstreute, hat uns
>> diese unwillkommene Rolle aufgedrängt." [13]
>>
>>
>> Der Labour-Zionismus [linke, nicht-marxistische Strömung] brachte seine
>> eigene einzigartige Sorte des jüdischen Selbsthasses hervor.
>>
>> Trotz seines Namens und Anspruches, war der Labour-Zionismus niemals
>> fähig, einen signifikanten Anteil der jüdischen Arbeiterklasse in auch
>> nur irgendeinem Land der Diaspora für sich einzunehmen.
>>
>> Seine Mitglieder führten ein selbst-widerlegendes Argument an: sie
>> behaupteten, daß die jüdischen Arbeiter nur in "marginalen" Industrien
>> beschäftigt seien, in solchen wie der Nadel-Industrie [Nadeln für
>> Textilherstellung und Grammophone, Anm. eku], welche keine wesentliche
>> Bedeutung für die VolksWirtschaften der "Wirts"-Nationen hatten, daher
>> würden die jüdischen Arbeiter immerwährend marginal für die
>> Arbeiterbewegung in den Ländern ihres Aufenthalts bleiben.
>>
>> Jüdische Arbeiter, so wurde behauptet, könnten einen "gesunden"
>> Klassenkampf nur in ihrem eigenen Land wagen.
>>
>> Arme Juden zeigten natürlich wenig Interesse an einer sogenannten
>> Arbeiter-Bewegung, welche ihnen nicht etwa erzählte, mit allem was sie
>> vermochten für die Verbesserung der gegenwärtigen Bedingungen zu
>> kämpfen, sondern sich eher um das weit entfernte Palästina zu sorgen.
>>
>> Der Ruf der zionistischen Arbeiter-Bewegung richtete sich paradoxerweise
>> primär an jene jungen Mittelklasse-Juden, welche den Bruch zu ihrer
>> Herkunfts-Klasse suchten, war jedoch nicht bereit, sich dann den
>> Arbeitern der Länder ihres Aufenthalts zu zuwenden.
>>
>> Der Labour-Zionismus wurde so eine Art Gegenkultur-Sekte, welche die
>> jüdischen Marxisten wegen deren Internationalismus und die jüdische
>> Mittelklasse als parasitische Ausbeuter der "Wirts"völker anprangerte.
>>
>> Im Endeffekt übertrugen sie den traditionellen Antisemitismus ins
>> Jiddische: die Juden waren in den falschen Ländern in den falschen
>> Berufen und machten die falsche Politik.
>>
>> Es brauchte den Holokaust, um diesem Gejammer einen Sinn zu geben.
>>
>> Erst dann erkannten sie den gemeinsamen Nenner in ihrer eigenen
>> Botschaft und der anti-jüdischen Propaganda der Nazis.
>>
>> Im März 1942 gestand Chaim Greenberg, zu der Zeit Herausgeber des
>> Labour-zionistischen Presse-Organs 'Jewish Frontier' in New York,
>> schmerzlich ein, daß es tatsächlich
>>
>> "eine Zeit [gegeben hat,] als es für zionistische Sprecher
>> (einschließlich den Schreiber) modisch war, von ihrem Standpunkt aus zu
>> erklären, 'um ein guter Zionist zu sein, muß man ein bißchen Antisemit
>> sein'. Bis zu diesem Tag stehen die zionistischen Labour-Kreise unter
>> dem Einfluß der Vorstellung, daß die Rückkehr nach Zion einen Prozeß der
>> Reinigung von unseren ökonomischen Unsauberkeiten einschließt. Jeden,
>> der keine sogenannte 'produktive' manuelle Arbeit ergreift, hält man für
>> einen Sünder gegen das Volk Israel und gegen die Menschheit." [14]
>>
>>
>>
>> [b]"Wasser auf die Mühlen der Nazi-Propaganda"[/b]
>>
>> Wenn irgendjemandem ohne weitere Fakten erzählt würde, daß die ersten
>> Zionisten Rassisten waren, würde derjenige automatisch vermuten, daß
>> dies ein Teil der kolonialistischen Seite des Zionismus in Palästina sei.
>>
>> Tatsächlich ist dem nicht so; Der 'Blut-Zionismus' hätte sich auch
>> entwickelt, wenn Palästina komplett unbewohnt gewesen wäre. Die
>> Begeisterung für 'Blut und Boden' war bereits Teil des Zionismus, bevor
>> der erste moderne Zionist jemals Europa verließ.
>>
>> Der Rassen-Zionismus hingegen war ein merkwürdiger Ableger des
>> Rassen-Antisemitismus.
>>
>> Gewiß, so argumentierten die Zionisten, die Juden waren eine reine
>> Rasse, bestimmt reiner als, sagen wir mal, die Deutschen, die einen
>> großen Zuschlag slawischen Blutes besaßen, wie sogar die All-Deutschen
>> eingestanden. Für diese Zionisten konnte jedoch noch nicht mal ihr
>> Glaube an die Rassen-Reinheit den einen Makel der jüdischen Existenz
>> überspielen: die Juden verfügten nicht über ihren eigenen jüdischen Boden.
>>
>> Wenn die teutonischen Rassisten sich als 'Übermenschen' sehen konnten,
>> sahen diese hebräischen Rassisten die Juden eben nicht in diesem Licht;
>> eher war das Gegenteil der Fall.
>>
>> Sie glaubten, daß wegen des Fehlens eines eigenen Bodens die Juden
>> "Untermenschen" wären, daher wären diese, aus der Sicht ihrer "Wirte",
>> wenig mehr als Blutsauger: die Welt-Pest eben.
>>
>> Wenn man an den Wahrheitsgehalt der rassischen Exklusivität glaubt,
>> fällt es schwer, etwas gegen den Rassismus von irgendjemand anderem
>> einzuwenden.
>>
>> Wenn man weiters daran glaubt, daß es für ein Volk unmöglich ist, gesund
>> zu bleiben, außer in seinem eigenen Heimatland, kann man nichts gegen
>> irgendeinen anderen einwenden, der "Fremde" von seinem Territorium
>> ausschließt.
>>
>> Tatsächlich jedoch dachte der Durchschnitts-Zionist selbst niemals
>> daran, das zivilisierte Europa zu verlassen, um es gegen die Wildnis
>> Palästinas einzutauschen. In Wirklichkeit ist es offensichtlich, daß ihm
>> die zionistische 'Blut und Boden'-Ideologie eine vortreffliche
>> Begründung lieferte, den Antisemitismus nicht auf dessen Heimatboden zu
>> bekämpfen: Es war nicht der Fehler der Antisemiten, es kam von dem
>> eigenen Pech der Juden, ihrem Dasein im Exil.
>>
>> Die Zionisten konnten tränenreich darlegen, daß in dem Verlust
>> Palästinas die Wurzel des Antisemitismus lag und die Wiedergewinnung
>> Palästinas die einzige Lösung der Judenfrage wäre. Alles andere könne
>> nur Beschönigung sein oder zwecklos.
>>
>> Walter Laqueur, Wortführer der zionistischen Historiker, fragte in
>> seinem Buch, 'A History of Zionism' [Die Geschichte des Zionismus], ob
>> das zionistische Beharren auf der Naturgegebenheit des Antisemitismus
>> nicht doch das "Wasser auf die Mühlen der Nazi-Propaganda" war. [15]
>>
>> Sicher war es das.
>>
>> Laqueurs Frage kann jedoch am besten mit einer anderen Frage beantwortet
>> werden: ist es schwierig, den leichtgläubigen Leser einer Nazi-Zeitung
>> zu verstehen, der daraus schloß, daß das, was die Nazis erklärten und
>> welchem die Zionisten - Juden - zustimmten, richtig sein müsse?
>>
>> Und es kam noch schlimmer: jede jüdische Bewegung, welche über die
>> Naturgegebenheit des Antisemitismus schwätzte, geradeso, als wäre jener
>> "natürlich", strebte nach vertraglichen Übereinkommen mit den Nazis, als
>> diese an die Macht kamen.
>>
>> --------
>>
>> Fußnoten und Quellen:
>>
>> 1. Marvin Lowenthal (ed.), The Diaries of Theodor Herzl, p.78.
>>
>> 2. Amos Elon, Herzl, p.255.
>>
>> 3. Desmond Stewart, Theodor Herzl, p.322.
>>
>> 4. The WZO is structured by national states, and elections are held on a
>> national basis for the World Zionist Congress; the various ideological
>> tendencies which are world-wide in their structure, run in the various
>> national elections for delegates.
>>
>> 5. Martin Buber, On Judaism, pp.15-19.
>>
>> 6. Ibid., pp.75-7.
>>
>> 7. Ignatz Zollschan, Jewish Questions (1914) pp.17-18.
>>
>> 8. Solomon Goldman, Crisis and Decision (1938), p.116.
>>
>> 9. Maurice Samuel, I, the Jew, pp.244-6.
>>
>> 10. Our Shomer "Weltanschauung", Hashomer Hatzair (December 1936), p.26.
>>
>> 11. Ben Frommer, The Significance of a Jewish State, Jewish Call
>> (Shanghai, May 1935), p.10.
>>
>> 12. Yehezkel Kaufman, Hurban Hanefesh: A Discussion of Zionism and
>> Anti-Semitism, Issues (Winter 1967), p.106.
>>
>> 13. Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, p.155.
>>
>> 14. Chaim Greenberg, The Myth of Jewish Parasitism, Jewish Frontiers
>> (March 1942), p.20.
>>
>> 15. Walter Laqueur, A History of Zionism, p.500.
>>
>> ************************************************************************
>> http://www.marxists.de/middleast/brenner/ch02.htm
>> 
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 04:26:45 GMT, in alt.revisionism "abc" 
wrote:

"Within five minutes, any intelligent, open-minded person can be convinced 
that the Holocaust gassings of World War II are a profitable hoax.

Fred A. Leuchter is America's leading specialist on the design and 
fabrication of execution equipment, including homicidal gas chambers. In 
1988, Leuchter scraped samples from the alleged gas chamber walls in 
Auschwitz, Birkenau and Lublin. Cyanide residue would be clearly evident on 
all these walls if gassings did occur. To his astonishment, Leuchter found 
no significant cyanide traces in any one of these rooms.

In 1991, the Polish government repeated these tests to disprove Leuchter's 
findings, but they as well found no evidence of any gassings ever occurring.

The structural integrity of these "gas chambers" is also extremely faulty. 
These rooms have ordinary doors and windows which are not hermetically 
sealed! There are large gaps between the floors and doors. If the Germans 
had attempted to gas anyone in these rooms, they would have died themselves, 
as the gas would have leaked and contaminated the entire area. Also, no 
equipment exists to exhaust the air-gas mixture from these buildings. 
Nothing was made to introduce or distribute the gas throughout the chambers. 
There are no provisions to prevent condensation of gas on the walls, floors 
or ceilings. No exhaust stacks have ever existed.

Though six million Jews supposedly died in the gas chambers, not one body 
has ever been autopsied and found to have died of gas poisoning. We have 
been shown piles of bodies from World War II, but most of these persons died 
of typhus or starvation or Allied bombings and a great many of those were 
murdered Germans, not Jews. Roughly the equivalent of ten football fields 
should be packed full of gassed bodies to present as evidence, yet not one 
body has ever been discovered.

The Germans documented everything in meticulous detail from shrubbery to 
arbors, but no pre-war or wartime plans or documents exist that detail or 
even mention any gas chambers for reasons of genocide. All documents ever 
presented were drawn up AFTER the war.

Even if we threw away all the evidence and accounted for every so-called gas 
chamber, it would have taken 68 YEARS to accomplish gassing six million 
Jews!

Even The Diary of Anne Frank is a hoax. Portions of the diary were written 
with a ball point pen. These pens were not in use at the time Anne Frank 
lived.

It is not denied concentration camps existed. Tragically, many died of 
typhus or starvation, as often happens in such situations. There is, 
however, no evidence that any gassings occurred for the reasons of genocide.

Israel continues to receive trillions of dollars worldwide as retribution 
for Holocaust gassings. Our country has donated more money to Israel than to 
any other country in the history of the world -- over $35 billion per year, 
everything included. If not for our extravagantly generous gifts to Israel, 
every family in America could afford a brand new Mercedes Benz. Surely the 
American people would be outraged if they realized their hard-earned money 
is being squandered in these difficult times.

With all this money at stake for Israel, it is easy to comprehend why this 
Holocaust hoax is so secretly guarded. The Jewish name for Holocaust is 
"Shoah." In Zionist circles, it is known as "Shoah Business." If nothing 
else, this unbelievable coverup demonstrates the irrepressible Zionist 
influence and control of our country. Their only defense against the facts 
is to cry out "antisemitic," "Skinhead" or "Nazi," whereas the majority of 
those who question the Holocaust are ordinary citizens...though you would 
never know it from the media.

In whatever way you can, please help shatter this profitable myth. It is 
time we stop sacrificing America's welfare for the sake of Israel and spend 
our hard-earned dollars on Americans.

(For more information contact The Institute for Historical Review P.O. Box 
2739 Newport Beach, CA 92659 USA).

There are compelling reasons to believe that the so-called holocaust never 
existed. Page 223, in The Diary of Anne Frank, (Pan Horizons edition, Pan 
Books Ltd., London, 1989), indicates that the size of Auschwitz, the most 
notorious of all German work camps, WAS VERY SMALL, with only 11,000 people 
(many of whom may not even have been Jews) being evacuated by the Germans at 
the time of the Russian advance in 1945. Certainly, compared to Spielberg's 
film, Schindler's List (which Emilie Schindler, Oskar's widow, said was full 
of lies), and other Jewish propaganda, that millions upon millions of Jews 
were systematically exterminated, 11,000 people is a very small number. 
Simple arithmetic tells us that the Germans would have had to have had 
hundreds of camps, or else they would have had to exterminate 137 people PER 
HOUR, in order for six million Jews to have been exterminated at such small 
camps as Auschwitz, a feat that would have been humanly impossible 
considering that, according to Douglas Reed's Behind the Scene and The 
Controversy of Zion, a mere 850,000 soldiers and others were killed by the 
entire German and Japanese war machines combined during WW2 (see p.397-400 
of Douglas Reed's book Controversy of Zion). People who would believe the 
Jewish propaganda that six million Jews were exterminated by Hitler must 
KEEP IN MIND THE SMALL SCALE CONSTRUCTION OF AUSCHWITZ AND THE VERY FEW 
OTHER GERMAN WORK CAMPS THAT EXISTED DURING WW2.
On July 13, 1994, a documentary on the life of Charles A. Lindbergh 
broadcast on the Public Broadcast System (PBS - KENW-TV) said that when 
Lindbergh visited one of these few camps in Germany following WW2, he was 
told that 25,000 died in 1-1/2 years. Again, simple arithmetic tells us that 
25,000 times a half dozen camps does not equal 6,000,000. In fact, it 
doesn't even equal 600,000. . . .

It is an interesting fact that the number of so-called persecuted Jews KEEPS 
INCREASING. Hal Greenwald, program director for the Hillel Foundation at 
Duke University, a Jewish student group, has been promoting the idea that 
NINE MILLION JEWS WERE EXTERMINATED IN HITLER'S GAS CHAMBERS (New York 
Times, Nov. 9, 1991, AP). NOW IT'S 9 MILLION AND GROWING. ..JUST LIKE OUR 
DEBT/TAX MONEY SUPPLY...THE NUMBERS JUST KEEP COMING OUT OF THIN AIR. . 
.(The Bible Caused Economic and Financial Slavery in the New World Order by 
Lee Cheney)".



Read the entire article online in depth:

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/holohoax.htm




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BIGGEST SWISS PAPER SAYS 911 CAUSED BY BUSH AND HIS ZYDS
(TRANSLATION AT THE BOTTOM)

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:48:34 -0400, in soc.culture.russian "serwad"
 wrote:

BLICK, the biggest Newspaper of Switzerland and its Cover Story: "Bush-Clan 
is behind 9/11"
The rest of the article is in German, the CIA might have fast translators to 
decipher the message...

Jetzt sagen auch Schweizer zum 9/11: «Steckt doch der Bush-Clan dahinter?»

VON ELIE PETER 15.09.2006 | 12:03:15

ZÜRICH - 2973 Menschen starben bei den Anschlägen von 9/11. «Bin Laden» 
und «Al Kaida», schrie der Bush-Clan. Die Welt glaubte ihm. Inzwischen
zweifeln selbst Wissenschaftler an der Bush-Version. Auch die Schweizer
Uni-Dozenten Albert A. Stahel (63) und Daniele Ganser (34) stellen jetzt
heisse Fragen.

«Etwas stimmt nicht», sagt Strategieexperte Stahel in der «Weltwoche» und 
verweist auf den «lückenhaften» offiziellen 9/11-Report der US-Regierung 
von 2004.

Gegenüber BLICK bestätigt der Uni-Professor die Kritik:

Osama Bin Laden kann «nicht der grosse Pate» hinter den Anschlägen sein. 
Er habe nicht genug Kommunikationsmittel gehabt.

Stahel bezweifelt, dass ein Passagierflugzeug ins Pentagon krachte: «Für 
Flug-Anfänger ist es eigentlich unmöglich, das Gebäude so genau zu treffen.»

Sieben Stunden nach den Twin Towers stürzte daneben das World Trade 
Center 7 ein. Die offizielle Version: Es brannte lange. Stahel: «Gar nichts
ist klar.»

Noch weiter als Stahel geht Historiker Daniele Ganser, sein Kollege an der 
Uni Zürich. Auch die offizielle US-Version nennt er «eine 
Verschwörungstheorie»: «Es gibt 3 Theorien, die wir gleichberechtigt 
behandeln sollten»:

«Überraschungs-Theorie» Bin Laden und Al Kaida führten die Anschläge aus.

«Lass es absichtlich passieren» Teile der US-Regierung kannten die 
Al-Kaida-Pläne. Sie reagierten nicht, um eine Serie von Kriegen zu 
legitimieren.

«Führe es absichtlich selbst aus» Die Anschläge wurden vom Pentagon 
und/oder Geheimdiensten ausgeführt. Die Bin-Laden-Videos sind gefälscht. 
3000 Menschen wurden für strategische Interessen geopfert.

Ganser: «Je mehr wir forschen, desto mehr zweifeln wir an Bushs Version.» 
Für ihn ist denkbar, dass die Bush-Regierung verantwortlich war. «Bush hat 
schon so viel gelogen! Und bereits 1962 gab es im Pentagon einen Plan, 
unschuldige US-Bürger für eigene Interessen zu opfern.» So weit wie Ganser 
geht Stahel nicht: «Ich stelle nur Fragen.»

Hier der Link zum Blick: 
[url=http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/9-11/artikel45057?display=kommentar]
http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/9-11/arti...splay=kommentar[/url]

Heutiges Blick-Cover: 
[img]http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/P/d/HBPdF4VF_Pxgen_r_442xA.jpg[/img]


Was the Bush-Clan behind 9/11?
Swiss University Lecturers ask the HOT QUESTIONS
"The More We Research, the More We Doubt It"

BLICK
BY ELIE PETER
15.09.2006
ZURICH

http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/9-11/artikel45057?display=kommentar

2973 humans died in the events of 9/11. "Bin Laden" and "al-Queda", the 
Bush clan cried. The world believed him. In the meantime, even scientists
doubt the Bush version. Also the Swiss University lecturers, Albert A. Stahel
(63) and Daniele Ganser (34), now ask hot questions.

"Something is not right", says strategy expert, Stahel, in the "World Week", 
and he refers to the "incomplete" official 9/11-Report of the US Government 
of 2004.

In response to BLICK the university professor confirms the criticism:

Osama Ben Laden cannot be "the grand godfather" behind the events. 
He could not have had enough means of communication.

Stahel doubts that a passenger airline hit the Pentagon: "For flight 
beginners it would have been actually impossible to target the building so 
exactly."

Seven hours after the twin Towers collapsed, beside it, the World Trade 
Center 7 collapsed. The official version: It burned for a long time. Stahel: 
"nothing at all is clear."

Stahel goes further than historian, Daniele Ganser, his colleague at the 
University of Zurich. He also calls the official US version "a conspiracy 
theory": "There are 3 theories, which should we treat equally?":

* "Surprise theory" - Bin Laden and al-Qaeda implemented the events.

* "Let it happen intentionally" - parts of the US Government knew of 
al-Queda's plans. They did not react, in order to legitimize a series of 
wars.

* "It was intentionally played out" - the events were implemented by the 
Pentagon and/or secret services. The Bin Laden videos were falsified. 
3000 humans were sacrificed for strategic interests.

Ganser: "The more we research, the more we doubt the Bush version." It is 
conceivable that the Bush government was responsible. "Bush already lied 
so much! And it already occured in 1962 that the Pentagon had a plan to 
sacrifice innocent US citizens for its own interests." Stahel does not go as 
far as Ganser: "I have only questions."







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At least some countries know what to do with the human garbage involved with
drugs!

Malaysia,Singapore,  Indonesia and Saudi Arabia know that an executed criminal
will never re-offend.

Pity that the UK, Canada and the US still have not learned this!


On Wed, 30 May 2007 00:49:01 +1000, BernardZ  wrote:

>Alex the death penalty still exists in Saudi Arabia

>http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?
>xfile=data/middleeast/2007/May/middleeast_May217.xml§ion=middleeast&
>col=


>RIYADH - A Saudi convicted of murder and two Pakistanis found guilty of 
>drug trafficking were beheaded by the sword on Sunday, the interior 
>ministry said.

>Mufreh bin Ahmad al-Missbali Assiri stabbed to death Abdullah bin 
>Mohammed al-Mudhlim Assiri after an argument, the ministry said in a 
>statement carried by the state news agency SPA.

>He was executed in the southwestern region of Assir.

>The two Pakistani men were beheaded in the Red Sea city of Jeddah for 
>drug trafficking, the ministry said in a separate statement.

>Nasser Khan and Abdulrasheed Musharaf were caught trying to smuggle 
>undisclosed amounts of heroin hidden in their stomachs into the kingdom, 
>the ministry said.

>The beheadings brought to 66 the number of executions announced by the 
>Saudi authorities this year.

>At least 37 people were executed in 2006, while 83 were put to death in 
>2005 and 35 the year before, according to AFP tallies based on official 
>statements.

>Executions are usually carried out in public in Saudi Arabia, which 
>applies a strict form of sharia, or Islamic law. Rape, murder, apostasy, 
>armed robbery and drug trafficking can all carry the death penalty.



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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip"
 wrote:

"JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover 
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the 
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk.  their burnt bodies have been found in 
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many 
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered 
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent 
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic 
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial 
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in 
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of 
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed 
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

"I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring 
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses 
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the 
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the 
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in 
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to 
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the 
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local 
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder 
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor 
overweight among the jury.

"The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the 
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without 
burial", Mr Nazarov said.

"And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the 
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes 
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, 
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the 
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with 
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 




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On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism "thedarkman"
 wrote:

I wouldn't pay much attention to the nutter who appeared on Oprah; I
remember that, it caused eruptions at the time. So what do we have
here then? A Jewish academic who admits that hey, maybe Jews had their
bad guys too, maybe they had their share of bloodthirsty, superstious
bigots. Like I said before, this really is no big deal for me, but
watch the shabbez goyim like Mock scream, watch the ADL shriek. Don't
these people make you wanna laugh?

http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm

Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
Murders

According to a recent report by the newspaper "The Guardian," Jewish
Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
Italy, has written a book,"Pasque di Sangue" (Easter of Blood), which
describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.

Some details of the book were published in the paper "Corriere Della
Sera," which also has an online section describing the book.

Prof. Toaff's book reportedly "describes the mutilation and
crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ's execution at
Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
>from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for 'magic and
therapeutic practices,'" noted the Guardian. Further describing the
bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
which was eaten during their religious rites.

He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
cross.

Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff's
accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
frightening customs from the general public.

However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of "Rachel" on
the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
including that of infanticide (video of Oprah's interview with Polin).

In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
family that "participated in human sacrifice," undoubtedly causing
emotional scars that may never heal.

Here is part of the interview:

OPRAH: ...You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
track of who's been involved and who hasn't been involved, and it's
gone back to like 1700.

OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.

POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.

OPRAH: Does everyone else think it's a nice Jewish family? From the
outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?

POLIN: Definitely.

OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?

POLIN: Right. There's other Jewish families across the country. It's
not just my own family.

OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.

POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
several of my friends know, and I've spoke publicly before, and...

OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
just think it was normal?

RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it's like if you grow
up with something, you think it's normal. I always thought
something...

OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don't have to give us the gory
details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?

POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
sacrificed, and you would have to, you know...

[end of Oprah excerpt]

You can read more about Polin's ordeal at the website Lukeford.net,
which also describes many exchanges from Jews about this whole ordeal.
No doubt, it has caused a big scandal among them, with one of their
own reportedly acknowledging such grisly crimes.


Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.

In more recent times, the book "Blood Ritual" by Philip DeVier and the
DVD "Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed," the
latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).

There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
attributed as Satanic acts.



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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, "Venceremos"  wrote:

>The Accusations

>     Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>     Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
>     British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
>     escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
>     February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

>     I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
>     I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
>     deeds of the war.

>     While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still
>     on my arm

>     Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
>     uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

>     Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

>     Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>     little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>     when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>     (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

>     These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>     published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>     "I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
>     commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
>     in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
>     future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
>     directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>     political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>     authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

>     This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>     lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
>     Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
>     collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>     hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
>     Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
>     camps, the price...was not too high for me.

>     "...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
>     Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
>     While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
>     another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
>     with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>     he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>     "Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
>     a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

>     "As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
>     between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
>     immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>     would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>     blood to achieve his political goal...
>     'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
>     this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
>     service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
>     would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>     concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>     That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
>     (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

>     Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
>     do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
>     money and military equipment."

>     Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>     According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
>     When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
>     citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
>     Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
>     views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>     official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
>     Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
>     of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>     -88-

KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER, 
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi 
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer  wrote:

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest.......

>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12

>The Kastner Case
>-----------------

>Introduction

>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question 'The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.

>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.

>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>----------------
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>------------
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another."
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher'.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements." (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>-------------
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense." (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>
>"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose." (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma'ariv*:
>
>"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>rehabilitated'.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>-------------------------
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view...
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>--------------------------
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others....
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.'
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc - and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith...
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>-----------
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the 'dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships'.
>
>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, 'now dead'. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Elias Davidsson - Oldugata 50 - 101 Reykjavik - Iceland
>Tel. (354)-552-6444     Fax: (354)-552-6579
>Email: edavid@itn.is     URL:  http://www.nyherji.is/~edavid


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On 15 Aug 2006 06:29:08 -0700, in alt.revisionism "GB" 
wrote:

How Many Survivors Are There?
Studies counted on to allocate funds for the distressed are far apart
on the number.
Stewart Ain - Staff Writer

Two new studies to determine the location of Jewish Holocaust
survivors, for use in making future allocations to the most needy,
differ widely on the number of survivors worldwide, The Jewish Week has
learned.

Sergio Della Pergola, a demographer for the Institute of Contemporary
Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, found 1,092,000 survivors
worldwide. Jacob Ukeles, a policy researcher in Manhattan, found
688,000.

The Ukeles survey, an update of one he prepared in 2000 for the
Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, found only minor
differences from his previous effort.

Lawrence Eagleburger, chairman of the International Commission on
Holocaust Era Insurance Claims, commissioned both surveys.

Eagleburger had hoped to use the figures in determining how to
distribute $13.2 million annually in humanitarian funds for needy
survivors worldwide. The funds were obtained as part of a settlement
for unpaid Holocaust-era insurance claims against German and other
European companies.

Brooklyn Federal Judge Edward Korman, who is presiding over the $1.25
billion Swiss bank settlement, has been using the original Ukeles
survey to allocate money to needy Jewish survivors.

Both surveys found the highest percentage of Jewish survivors are
living in Israel. In his updated version, Ukeles reported the figure at
265,000, or 38.5 percent. Della Pergola put the number at 511,000, or
46.8 percent.

The numbers breakdown of where survivors are living:


The United States: Ukeles, 110,000 survivors, or 16 percent; Della
Pergola, 174,000, or 15.9 percent.

Europe: Ukeles, 126,000, or 18.3 percent; Della Pergola, 229,000, or 21
percent.

The former Soviet Union: Ukeles, 150,000, or 21.8 percent; Della
Pergola, 146,000, or 13.4 percent.

Other parts of the world: Ukeles, 38,000, or 5.5 percent; Della
Pergola, 32,000, or 2.9 percent.

The difference in the studies stems from the fact that Della Pergola
included as survivors Jews who lived in Arab countries - Morocco,
Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Lebanon and Algeria - that passed anti-Jewish
laws. Ukeles did not.

Asked his reaction to the disparities, Ukeles said that since their
purpose is to determine allocations based on need, a new needs
assessment study might be in order.

In such a study in 2000 for the Claims Conference, Ukeles found 119,000
survivors in the former Soviet Union in need - almost double that of
any other area.

Gideon Taylor, executive vice president of the Claims Conference, said
his organization's allocations committee would be meeting Monday to
vote on staff recommendations for the allocation of more than $50
million.

Taylor said the staff considered both the Della Pergola and Ukeles
studies, as well as recent needs studies performed in the United
States, Israel and the former Soviet Union. He said those studies would
soon be posted on his organization's Web site.

Elan Steinberg, executive vice president of the World Jewish Congress,
said despite the different number of survivors in the studies, the
percentage of Jews does not differ markedly except in Israel and the
former Soviet Union.

He said Della Pergola's figures represent a "dramatic shift" in
populations that "call into question the basis on which distributions
have been made."

Taylor stressed that both the Claims Conference and the World Jewish
Restitution Organization "can only act in an empirical manner" and
thus must base their allocations "on the most recent statistics and
on the basis of where the greatest needs are."

The allocations committee of the Claims Conference will be submitting
its recommendations to its full membership in coming weeks. Steinberg
said the WJC, a member of the Claims Conference, would take into
consideration Della Pergola's statistics when voting on the
committee's recommendations.

Israel Singer, president of the Claims Conference, said that instead of
each organization determining on its own how best to allocate
settlement monies to needy survivors, there should be a "global,
coordinated strategy" in determining allocations. He said it should
apply to the insurance and Swiss bank settlements, as well as the
allocations from the Claims Conference.

Samuel Dubbin, an attorney for the Holocaust Survivors Foundation,
welcomed such a move. He said he is convinced that if there was a
global allocation, "there would be enough funds available to meet the
needs of survivors all over the world."

Singer said he would be meeting shortly after Thanksgiving with Korman
to review the latest demographic statistics and to discuss the global
allocation idea.

"I'd love the judge to look at it and if he has to make allocations
earlier, it does not mean we can't reassess our allocations based on
what he does," Singer said.

Singer stressed that all of the settlements combined, along with money
the Claims Conference obtains from various sources, contains hundreds
of millions of dollars that together might meet the needs of survivors
for the next five years.

Any distribution plans that call for allocations beyond that time frame
should be shortened, he said.

"Survivors are dying at the rate of 15 percent a year," Singer
said. "We should telescope the amount of time allocations are
made."

In addition, Singer said the money must go directly to help survivors.
If the survivors have moved, they should still receive the money if
they are in need.

"The money should not be an entitlement for places but for
individuals," he said.

At a meeting this week in Jerusalem, the executive committee of the
Claims Conference decided to press the German government to provide
funds for homecare for Holocaust survivors in need worldwide.

Dubbin pointed out that the Association of Jewish Family and
Children's Services Agencies in 2002 estimated that a minimum of $30
million is needed annually to care for needy survivors in the United
States.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8774



All this quvatch about the ZYDs, but no concern for the many MORE 
MILLIONS of Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, German people killed!!


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On 10 Feb 2007 12:14:16 -0800, in alt.revisionism "thedarkman"
 wrote:

I wouldn't pay much attention to the nutter who appeared on Oprah; I
remember that, it caused eruptions at the time. So what do we have
here then? A Jewish academic who admits that hey, maybe Jews had their
bad guys too, maybe they had their share of bloodthirsty, superstious
bigots. Like I said before, this really is no big deal for me, but
watch the shabbez goyim like Mock scream, watch the ADL shriek. Don't
these people make you wanna laugh?

http://www.honestmediatoday.com/professor_admits_jewish_ritual_murder.htm


Jewish Professor Admits Jewish Cult Engaged in Past Jewish Ritual
Murders

According to a recent report by the newspaper "The Guardian," Jewish
Prof. Ariel Toaff, who is a professor at Bar-Ilan University in Israel
of Medieval Jewish history but is currently a visiting professor in
Italy, has written a book,"Pasque di Sangue" (Easter of Blood), which
describes Jewish ritual murder rites of Jews in the past.

Some details of the book were published in the paper "Corriere Della
Sera," which also has an online section describing the book.

Prof. Toaff's book reportedly "describes the mutilation and
crucifixion of a two-year-old boy to recreate Christ's execution at
Pesach, the Jewish Easter. The festival marks the fleeing of the Jews
>from Egypt and Prof Toaff says Christian blood was used for 'magic and
therapeutic practices,'" noted the Guardian. Further describing the
bizarre and hateful customs of Jewish extremists, Prof. Toaff noted
that Jewish occultists would sometimes mix blood in their matzo balls,
which was eaten during their religious rites.

He also describes many children who were reportedly crucified on the
cross.

Unsurprisingly, many Jewish supremacists quickly denied Prof. Toaff's
accurate findings in an attempt to hide their ancient, bizarre, and
frightening customs from the general public.

However, Prof. Toaff was hardly the first to acknowledge such crimes
in recent times. Indeed, in more recent times, a Jewish lady had
appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show several years ago and described how
some of her relatives had engaged in similar crimes. The honest and
brave Jewish lady, Vicki Polin (who used the pseudonym of "Rachel" on
the Oprah Winfrey show to avoid reprisals), told of how her family had
engaged in some extremely bizarre Satanic Jewish kabbalistic rites,
including that of infanticide (video of Oprah's interview with Polin).

In the interview, Oprah asked the young woman, who undoubtedly had
been traumatized by the ordeal, about what exactly had occurred. Oprah
opened the discussion, telling of how the poor girl had grown up in a
family that "participated in human sacrifice," undoubtedly causing
emotional scars that may never heal.

Here is part of the interview:

OPRAH: ...You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

POLIN: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep
track of who's been involved and who hasn't been involved, and it's
gone back to like 1700.

OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.

POLIN: Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.

OPRAH: Does everyone else think it's a nice Jewish family? From the
outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?

POLIN: Definitely.

OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?

POLIN: Right. There's other Jewish families across the country. It's
not just my own family.

OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.

POLIN: Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and
several of my friends know, and I've spoke publicly before, and...

OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you
just think it was normal?

RACHEL: I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my
multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it's like if you grow
up with something, you think it's normal. I always thought
something...

OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don't have to give us the gory
details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?

POLIN: Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be
sacrificed, and you would have to, you know...

[end of Oprah excerpt]

You can read more about Polin's ordeal at the website Lukeford.net,
which also describes many exchanges from Jews about this whole ordeal.
No doubt, it has caused a big scandal among them, with one of their
own reportedly acknowledging such grisly crimes.


Polin is now the CEO of the Awareness Center, which honorably works to
prevent ritual abuse and other acts of child cruelty.

In more recent times, the book "Blood Ritual" by Philip DeVier and the
DVD "Jewish Ritual Murder Revisited: The Hidden Cult Revealed," the
latter having an interview with noted scholar Dr. Harrell Rhome and
also being found online in streamable format, have also covered this
wicked crime committed by Jewish extremists (video).

There is no reason to believe that all Jews commit ritualistic
infanticide. However, there appears to be too much evidence to neglect
such crimes altogether in the past. If committed today, it is mostly
occurring in Israel, where Jewish occults and extremists remain
rampant, and possibly occurring elsewhere in small numbers, often
attributed as Satanic acts.



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On 12 Feb 2007 17:24:18 -0800, in soc.culture.palestine "Zionism is a cancer
growing on Uncle Sam's ass. -"  wrote:

Israeli historian: "blood libel" not completely unfounded
By Khalid Amayreh
Feb 12, 2007, 19:15

Reports

A prominent Israeli Jewish historian has revealed that the medieval
canard about Jews killing Christian children and using their blood in
making pasta for the Jewish holiday of Passover is not entirely
unfounded.

Ariel Toaff, Professor of History at the Bar-Illan University argued
in a new book, published recently in Italy, that "there is a factual
basis for some of the medieval blood libels against the Jews."

"I tried to show that the Jewish world at that time was also violent,
among other things because it had been hurt by Christian violence. I
don't claim that Judaism condones murder. But within Ashkenazi
Judaism, there were extremist groups that could have committed such an
act and justified it."

In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz Monday, 12
February, Toaff said he reached this conclusion after examining the
records of the trial for the murder, ostensibly by Jews, of a
Christian child, Simon of Trento in 1475.

The 3-year-old child went missing around Easter in Trento, Italy, in
March 1475 and his father accused the Jews of the town of kidnapping
and murdering him, and then draining his blood for use in baking their
Passover matzohs and also for occult rituals secretly adhered to by
them.

The leaders of the Jewish community in Trento were arrested and
seventeen of them confessed to the murder, probably under torture.
Fifteen of them, including Samule, the head of the community, were
sentenced to death and burned at the stake.

"I found there were statements and parts of the testimony that were
not part of the Christian culture of the judges, and they could not
have been invented or added by them. They were components appearing in
prayers known from the Jewish prayer book," Toaff was quoted as
saying.

He argued that the established view that Ashkenazi Jews didn't use
human blood on Passover was not entirely true.

"Over many dozens of pages I proved the centrality of blood on
Passover.

"Based on many sermons, I concluded that blood was used, especially by
Ashkenazi Jews, and that there was a belief in the special curative
powers of children's blood. It turns out that among the remedies of
Ashkenazi Jews were powders made of blood."

Toaff said that although the use of blood was prohibited by Jewish
religious law, he found proof of rabbinic permission to use blood,
even human blood.

Toaff has been the target of vitriolic attacks and vilifications by
Jewish leaders and commentators for "vindicating anti-Semitism" and
giving anti-Semites a "cause celebre."

Bar-Illan University President Moshe Kaveh said he would summon Toaff
to explain his research once he returned from Italy.

Israeli and Jewish commentators, as well as talks-backers on several
Israeli websites, have been heaping calumny on Toaff, calling him,
inter alia, "self-hating Jew" and "collaborator with anti-Semites."

However, Toaff said he wouldn't be silenced no matter how vociferous
are the criticisms of his book.

"I will not give up my devotion to the truth and academic freedom even
if the world crucifies me."

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/printer_21417.shtml



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On 1 Aug 2006 17:04:37 -0700, in ab.politics "auldbobpeffers@aol.com"
 wrote:

With the rising tide of anti-Jewish hostility in Europe getting so much
attention in recent years, it is somewhat surprising that an equally
worrisome trend across the Atlantic has gone largely unnoticed,
mounting anti-Semitism in Canada.

With 360,000 Jews, Canada is home to the fifth largest Jewish community
outside of Israel, and America's northern neighbor has long prided
itself for its tolerance, openness, and freedom. But that legacy is now
under assault amid a spate of recent, and deeply troubling, incidents.

Over the past few, there have been many high profile anti-Semitic
incidents in Canada. Synagogues have been the targets of arson attacks,
Jewish day schools have received bomb threats, and there have been
numerous property crimes and hate propaganda directed against Jews and
their institutions. The most serious incident occurred in July of 2002,
when David Rosenzweig, an Orthodox Jew, was murdered outside a kosher
restaurant in Toronto by a neo-Nazi skinhead.

For a country that has spent the past two decades fostering
multiculturalism and decrying xenophobia, the spate of anti-Semitism in
Canada is especially disconcerting. The fact that it has received less
global attention than it deserves does not take away from the danger
which it poses to Canadian society and its democratic institutions.

One Jew was already murdered in the heart of Toronto because of his
identity. It is time for the Canadian government to step in and take a
firmer stand against anti-Semitism, before this age-old prejudice
claims any more victims.

Since Stephen Harper assumed the leadership of the new Conservative
Party of Canada, all of the progressive, centrist, practical, reasonable,
pluralistic policies held by the former Progressive Conservative Party of
Canada have been almost completely abolished from the new Conservative 
Party of Canada. Furthermore, all socially moderate conservatives
such as Red Tories and Libertarians have been either silenced or purged
>from positions of power within the new Conservative Party of Canada; and
replaced with American style Conservatives who harbour racist, sexist,
homophobic, bigoted, recklessly populist, rigidly social conformist ideals.
Among those who have been card carrying members of the former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance in the past and who are either themselves
still members and/or have influential supporters currently within the
new Conservative Party of Canada seem to be many anti-Semites.

In particular, Stockwell Day, the former leader of the old Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance which has now more or less simply been
rebranded and repackaged as the new Conservative Party of Canada, has
come under suspicion for his past remarks. Charges that Stockwell Day
is an anti-Semite, or at least in the past promoted hostility to Jews,
continue to circulate. During the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
leadership race Stockwell Day tried to lay such allegations to rest.
Yet questions about Stockwell Day's beliefs persist. Stockwell Day is
currently Canada's Minister for Public Safety.

Stockwell Day has a past association with James Keegstra, a vile
holocaust denier and notorious anti-Semite. As a church school
principal and spokesman for the Alberta Association of Independent
Church Schools, Stockwell Day promoted a Christian fundamentalist
curriculum that included materials that denounced Jews, Muslims, and
the purported, "liberal-humanist fallacy of democratic government". And
last but not least, there is the new Conservative Party of Canada
itself-its policies and origins and the people it attracts. The new
Conservative Party of Canada's own predecessor, the Reform 
Party/Canadian Alliance, frequently made racist, sexist,
homophobic, anti-feminist, anti-immigrant, anti-French Canadian, 
anti-Quebec, anti-Ontario,anti-Atlantic Canadian,
remarks and blatently Anglo chauvinist appeals.

During the 2000 federal election campaign, the former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance had sought to depict the most impoverished and
marginalized section of Canada's population, the native peoples, as a
"coddled minority". Unlike the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance, the new
Conservative Party of Canada does not expressly call for a sharp cut in
immigration, but it suggests, even if its subtlety and by way of
remarks made by its backbench MPs, that the Liberals have been allowing
the wrong type of people into the country. Several former Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance candidates during the 2000 federal election
campaign made even more blatant appeals to anti-immigrant prejudice.
Calgary Center MP Eric Lowther has said Canadians could use the Reform
Party/Canadian Alliance's scheme for citizen-initiated referenda to
limit immigration. Betty Granger resigned as a Reform Party/Canadian
Alliance candidate in Winnipeg after she spoke of an "Asian invasion"
of Canada's West Coast and accused Sri Lankan Tamil immigrants of using
Canada to support "terrorism". Many of these vile, disgusting,
despicably racist comments from former Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
candidates beg the question: How many of these same candidates,
employees, and MPs both past and present are still actively involved
with the new Conservative Party of Canada?.

Neo-Nazi scumbag James Keegstra and his associate Jim Green, a fellow
anti-Semite and an official in the national Social Credit party,
attended prayer meetings led by current Conservative Party of Canada
foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day. Moreover, according to James
Keegstra, in 1983 and 1984 he and Stockwell Day had chats about
"freedom of speech issues" and James Keegstra's own case.

In May 1983 the Tory Premier of Alberta, Peter Lougheed, felt it
necessary to deliver a prepared speech to the provincial legislature
that condemned James Keegstra's views as "unequivocally racial,
religiously prejudiced, historically inaccurate and distorted." He
pledged the province would undertake a review of the curriculum and
classroom monitoring to ensure "greater tolerance and respect for
minority groups."

Reputedly, Stockwell Day first met James Keegstra in 1983, after James
Keegstra, who had been fired from his job at the Eckville public high
school, moved to Bentley so he could work as an auto mechanic. Earlier
this year, Green told freelance journalist Gordon Laird that Day "had
said he wanted to be one of the first ones in there when Keegstra
opened his garage."

In Bentley, James Keegstra continued his fascist political activities.
He won election to the post of second vice-president for Alberta of the
national Social Credit Party and with Green founded the Christian
Defence League to raise founds for his battles with the Alberta
government and courts. In 1984, the arch neo-Nazi Ernst Zundel made the
pilgrimage to Bentley to solidarize himself with James Keegstra.

It might appear strange that someone like the new Conservative Party of
Canada's foreign affairs critic Stockwell Day, who was involved in his
own struggle with the government and interested in making a career in
politics, did not take pains to disassociate himself from fascists scum
like James Keegstra and Jim Green. But anti-Semitism has long had a
popular base in rural Alberta, where it has fed off two distinct but
intertwined traditions,
that of extreme right-wing Protestant fundamentalism and extreme
right-wing populism.

>From 1935 to 1971, Alberta was ruled by a party that drew its name and
initial political inspiration from the doctrine of Social Credit.
"Bible Bill" Aberhart, the preacher who founded Alberta's Social Credit
Party, made openly anti-Semitic speeches and, as a concession to
the social credit ideologues in his party, founded a government board
to disseminate social credit propaganda, principally populist and
anti-Semitic writings. In 1947-48, Aberhart's successor as Alberta
premier, Ernest Manning (father of Reform Party/Canadian Alliance
Preston Manning), purged the party's leadership of anti-Semites and
closed down the Social Credit Board. But anti-Semitic views continued
to circulate among the Social Credit periphery and feed into the
religious intolerance promoted by extreme right-wing Protestant
Fundamentalist sects, who exercised a great deal of power within the
party.

In 1980s Alberta, anti-Semitic views were not the exclusive preserve of
the remnants of the Social Credit party. One reason Alberta Premier
Lougheed publicly denounced James Keegstra was that one of his own Tory
MLAs had given a press interview in which he claimed he had never seen
"any evidence Jews were subject to mass extermination or even
persecuted under the Nazi regime". This sort of vile, disgusting,
dispicable anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial is to be found within the
grassroots of the new Conservative Party of Canada's Alberta faction.

Neo-Nazi scumbag trash James Keegstra is a product of rural Alberta's
right-wing religious/political tradition. Stockwell Day, by contrast,
was drawn to Bentley, which has been called the buckle in Alberta's
Bible belt, by his increasing commitment to religious fundamentalism.
While Stockwell Day reportedly disagreed with James Keegstra and Jim
Green about their virulent hatred of Jews, he gravitated to the very
milieu of fundamentalist religion and political reaction from which
they emerged. Moreover, Stockwell Day, whether because of sympathy or
political calculation, saw no reason to vigorously disassociate himself
>from ethier of this Neo-Nazi pigs. For their part, James Keegstra and
Jim Green continue to express admiration for Stockwell Day, thus
further underscoring that their parting, such as it was, was amicable.

Stockwell Day's successful struggle to secure legal recognition for 15
unlicensed Christian schools, including his own Bentley Christian
Training School, helped precipitate his entry into party politics. In
this fight, Stockwell Day vigorously advocated before various
government bodies the Accelerated Christian Education (ACE) curriculum
prepared by the Texas-based School of Tomorrow. He even said that he
was prepared "to go to jail, if need be" to uphold the right of his
school to chose what it taught.

The ACE curriculum propagated the views of the American religious
right, and arguably its more extreme elements. The curriculum was
criticized by an Alberta government Committee on Tolerance and
Understanding as promoting "a degree of insensitivity towards blacks,
Jews and natives." According to Ron Ghitter, the Committee's chairman
and a Tory of Jewish decent, "ACE schools were schools of dogma ...the
kids who came out had sort of a twisted Christianity with anti-Semitic
overtones." Remember folks, the Conservative Party of
Canada's Stockwell Day could become our next foreign minister!!!.

The ACE curriculum dismissed evolution and espoused "creation science."
Science booklets instructed, "Not all sickness is caused by demons, but
some sickness is."

Democracy was condemned, while Ian Smith, the prime minister of the
white minority-led Republic of Rhodesia, Ian Paisley, Northern
Ireland's anti-Catholic demagogue, and Chilean military dictator
Augusto Pinochet were lauded. Democracy, declared an ACE publication,
"represent(s) the ultimate deification of man, which is the very
essence of humanism and totally alien to God's word."

Obviously, there is the difficulty of explaining how a man purportedly
free of antipathy to Jews simultaneously found himself keeping company
with virulent anti-Semites and fighting for the right to use a school
curriculum which included anti-Semitic materials. More fundamentally,
Stockwell Day's defenders are most anxious that his fundamentalist
beliefs and the right-wing political tradition from which he emerges
not be made the object of public scrutiny, because they recognize the
vast majority of Canadians will find them abhorrent.

If not anti-Semitism per se, certainly intolerant attitudes toward
women, jews, gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, trangendered people,
aboriginals, and other historically marginal groups seem to be integral
both to the new Conservative Party of Canada and the
political-religious make-up of Stockwell Day and many others within the
party.



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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:21:11 -0400, in soc.culture.usa "serwad"
 wrote:

Israeli diplomat arrested on suspicion of pedophilia
An Israeli diplomat, Yosef Sagiv, was arrested Friday in the American city  of
Atlanta on suspicion of computer related offences linked to pornography  and
the sexual exploitation of children.

This sort of thing seems to happen a lot with Israeli diplomats.
Sex Scandal Past Haunts New Envoy 
The Strange Case of the Disappearing Diplomat 
Israel Has Second Thoughts on Consul
Israeli Consul in Nude Picture Storm
Australia Consul Appointment Reviewed
Diplomat Said to Unnerve Women
Jewish Diplomat Involved in Child Prostitution Scandal
Brazil Links Israeli Consul to Child Prostitution
Wanted Israeli Diplomat Flees Brazil
The Principal Villains of Brasilian Pedofilia Crimes
Brazilian Police Stake Out Diplomat Accused of Running Kiddie-Porn Ring 




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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:14:51 -0400, in soc.culture.usa "serwad"
 wrote:

Provided By:  The Associated Press
Last Modified: 9/1/2006 12:38:12 PM

ATLANTA (AP) -- An employee of Israel's consulate in Atlanta was arrested
Thursday on charges that he used the Internet to try to lure a minor into
having sex.

Yosef Sagiv Ofri was indicted by a grand jury in Columbia County yesterday.

District Attorney Daniel Craig of Augusta says the 37-year-old Ofri was
arrested at about 7:30 a.m. outside his home in DeKalb County, near Atlanta.

Craig says authorities also obtained a warrant to search Ofri's home, 
according to a statement from Craig's office.

The indictment says that Ofri used e-mail and online messages to lure a  child
>from Columbia County-about two hours east of Atlanta-for "illegal acts
relating to sodomy, aggravated sodomy, child molestation and aggravated  child
molestation."

Captain Steve Morris of the Columbia County Sheriff's office said Ofri works
for the Israeli Consulate in Atlanta.

He said officials from the consulate visited with Ofri today at the county's
detention center, where he is being held.

The Jerusalem Post reports that Ofri is a security officer with the 
consulate and carries an Israeli diplomatic passport. 


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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:14:14 -0700, VicRCurious@hotmail.com wrote:

Not only in Canada are the Russian ZYD Mafia making false claims as
alleged "REFUGEES" from israel, just so they can jump the queue for
immigration, as well as being parasites on the taxpayers of the host
countries!!

Just ask taxpayers in Australia and New Zealand about their Israelis!


>On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:36:26 -0700, Frank Arthur 
>wrote:
>
>>In a banner headline story on the front page of the issue of Canadian
>>Jew News for January 18 2007, is a huge story detailing how Israelis
>>are filing fraudulent claims as "REFUGEES", to jump the immigration
>>queues, and get into Canada.
>>
>>Even the Embassy in Canada for Israel is enraged about these false
>>claims, usually made by people who emigrated to Israel from the former
>>Soviet Union. They state categorically that these claims are
>>spurious!!
>>
>>The Israeli newspaper Ha'Aretz had a feature story in their issue for
>>31 December 2006. The article claimed that in year 2005 there were 679
>>claims as refugees made by these criminals, with many of these false
>>claims made to Canadian authorities.
>>
>>Canadian Jew News claims that 369 claims were made by Israelis
>>claiming refugee status in the 9 months from January to September 2006
>>alone!!
>>
>>The crooked Canadian Refugee people allowed 91 of these criminals to
>>stay in Canada at taxpayer expense!! In fact Israel has made the top
>>10 list of source countries for people claiming refugee status in the
>>first 3 quarters of 2006!!
>>
>>In fact, since 2000, almost 3,000 Israelis have claimed refugee
>>status, so that they can stay in Canada and live off Canadian
>>taxpayers with their fraudulent claims.



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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:22:28 -0500, Briga  wrote:
>David Johnston wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:37:50 -0800, "i.am.not.usenetizen"
>>  wrote:
 
>>>> American oil interests in the Middle East would put the United States
>>>> at war with them anyway.  
>>> Really?  I don't ever remember any country threatening to cut off oil to 
>>> the USA.

>> Israel did not cause Iraq to invade Kuwait.  Israel did not cause the
>> United States to get nervous about that and the possibility that Iraq
>> would move on to Saudi Arabia.  The United States would have nervous
>> about that if Israel had never been founded.  Israel did not cause
>> Osama Bin Ladin to want to overthrow the Saudi monarchy.  Israel did
>> not cause the Americans to want to prop up the Saudi monarchy with the
>> result being that OBL blamed the Americans for his inability to take
>> over Saudi Arabia.  Israel did not cause the United States to back the
>> Shah of Iran with the result that the subsequent regime had a massive
>> grudge against the Americans.  

>The media has always favored Israel in its news coverage. Billy Graham 
>said it to President Nixon "the Jewish "stranglehold" on the media "has 
>got to be broken or this country's going down the drain"."
>http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/658



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The death penalty will also apply to female druggies, since they do not
discriminate based on sex.

On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 12:26:14 -0400, "Paris Hilton" 
wrote:

>All backwards, ignorant societies, to be sure.

>Why don't you expound on how wonderfully the aforementioned 4 countries 
>treat their women?

>"MattKern"  wrote in message 
>news:po2363d8tmo9g0rscp7hbpusm23m5l5ai0@4ax.com...
>> At least some countries know what to do with the human garbage involved 
>> with drugs!
>>
>> Malaysia,Singapore,  Indonesia and Saudi Arabia know that an executed 
>> criminal
>> will never re-offend.
>>
>> Pity that the UK, Canada and the US still have not learned this!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 30 May 2007 00:49:01 +1000, BernardZ  
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Alex the death penalty still exists in Saudi Arabia
>>
>>>http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticleNew.asp?
>>>xfile=data/middleeast/2007/May/middleeast_May217.xml§ion=middleeast&
>>>col=
>>
>>
>>>RIYADH - A Saudi convicted of murder and two Pakistanis found guilty of
>>>drug trafficking were beheaded by the sword on Sunday, the interior
>>>ministry said.
>>
>>>Mufreh bin Ahmad al-Missbali Assiri stabbed to death Abdullah bin
>>>Mohammed al-Mudhlim Assiri after an argument, the ministry said in a
>>>statement carried by the state news agency SPA.
>>
>>>He was executed in the southwestern region of Assir.
>>
>>>The two Pakistani men were beheaded in the Red Sea city of Jeddah for
>>>drug trafficking, the ministry said in a separate statement.
>>
>>>Nasser Khan and Abdulrasheed Musharaf were caught trying to smuggle
>>>undisclosed amounts of heroin hidden in their stomachs into the kingdom,
>>>the ministry said.
>>
>>>The beheadings brought to 66 the number of executions announced by the
>>>Saudi authorities this year.
>>
>>>At least 37 people were executed in 2006, while 83 were put to death in
>>>2005 and 35 the year before, according to AFP tallies based on official
>>>statements.
>>
>>>Executions are usually carried out in public in Saudi Arabia, which
>>>applies a strict form of sharia, or Islamic law. Rape, murder, apostasy,
>>>armed robbery and drug trafficking can all carry the death penalty.
>> 
>



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On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:39:12 GMT, "princeandy"  wrote:

>It might not stop them, but sure as hell makes sure they wont offend again.

A lot of good ideas!

Now definitely needed for the members of the pedofilia party in
Holland!!

Also, for judges in Canada releasing repeat child molesters!!


On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:06:56 -0600, Ken McVaySOBC
 wrote:

>Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have approved
>special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags!!

>In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get their just
>punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!


>>DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags!!

>>This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
>>since many US states, and foreign countries are
>>starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.

>>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
>>of televising executions.

>>A few more thoughts on the subject.

>>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
>>VICTIMS of the criminals executed.

>>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
>>not only determine the method of execution, but should also
>>have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.

>>Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
>>but not limited to such, would include:
>
>>         AIDS spreaders
>>         rapists
>>         drug dealers
>>         home invaders
>>         armed robbers
>>         pederasts and similar child molesters
>>         crooked liars/lawyers
>>         corrupt judges
>>         corrupt politicians
>>         insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
>>         members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
>>         useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
>>              criminals being released
>>Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
>>         any spreader of any disease,including STD - this would
>>                obviously  include most faggots
>>        white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
>>                dollars  (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
>>                how they would   exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)


>>Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:

>>         crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
>>         vivisection
>>         medical experiments without anaesthetic
>>         target practice for police and military
>>         beheading
>>         hanging
>>         barbecueing by electrocution
>>         drawing & quartering

>>Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
>>	guillotining, very popular in France
>>	flaying alive until dead
>>	stoning to death - popular in some jurisdictions

>>More suggestions for both categories are invited.


>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>is a revolutionary act." 
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant

>Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
>office: VISIT at:
>#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
>Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
>or call: 1-250-616-9431

>As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
>called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
>should give an indication as to the why.

>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
>yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
>seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
>my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
>moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
>http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
>also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

>Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
>a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
>even if he or she were not naked"?
>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

>For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
>background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
>detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
>known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
>It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
>to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

>Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
>NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
>Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

>Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
>Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
>I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
>send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
>work:(780)492-0473


>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.

>In memory of William Grosvenor who courageously posted the TRUTH
>for many years around the world.


>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:27:02 -0600, "Robert Sveinson"
>> wrote:
>>>"Roedy Green"  wrote in message
>>>news:81ptr0pj2ibnkktvdlh3ngrr09jgjih5d9@4ax.com...
>>>> The Iraqis are hopelessly outgunned, yet to everyone's surprise that
>>>> tiny country has held the biggest military in the world at bay.

>>>> One of their most successful techniques has been beheadings, and
>>>> releasing videos. This creates maximum horror with minimal loss of
>>>> life.

>>>> I think they could improve on the productions to make clear they are
>>>> in retaliation.

>>>> So I think the next beheading video should be spliced or split screen
>>>> with shots of dozens of people Americans have beheaded with their
>>>> bombs and machine gun fire.

>>>> I think they should branch out from beheadings, partly because
>>>> beheadings are too unreal.  They need something the man in the street
>>>> can more relate to.

>>>> I suggest, removing fingernails and toenails, removing or splitting
>>>> the penis, crushing the testicles in a vice, gouging out an eye with
>>>> a popsicle stick, allowing rats to nibble, nails through the hands and
>>>> feet, throwing darts at a target painted on the stomach, rubbing
>>>> rotting dead baby corpse goo over Americans stretched naked and then
>>>> slashing with knives to create gangrenous infections to be
>>>> photographed in stop motion, squeezing lemon juice into wounds.

>>>> Play with common phobias, e.g. spiders, snakes, scorpions, rats,
>>>> heights. E.g. video falling to death from a tall building with cameras
>>>> situated at top, bottom and attached to the victim.

>>>> Since Bush started the sexual abuse, and condones child rape, how
>>>> about killing a man with ever larger things shoved up his ass, pounded
>>>> home with a sledgehammer till he splits like a watermelon.

>>>> Of course any such violence must be justified by showing video of at
>>>> least a dozen instances of Americans doing something similar first.

>>>> "Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
>>>> Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
>>>> nor of Mussolini."
>>>> ~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
>>>>   on Bush's atrocities in the Iraq war.

>>>> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
>>>> See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes




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It seems that the new pariah state replacing South Africa, is Israel!


>On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 17:47:29 GMT, in soc.culture.jewish "torresdD"
> wrote:

>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1180527989112&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
>In an indication that Israel is starting to take the threats of
>union boycotts against it more seriously,

>Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni is scheduled to hold an inter-ministerial
>meeting on the matter early this week.

>According to Foreign Ministry officials, the purpose of the meeting -
>which will also include members of academia - will be to draw up an 
>action plan on how to combat both last week's British Union of
>Colleges and Universities decision to consider an academic boycott,
>and how to keep the boycott movement from gaining momentum.

>Britain's largest labor union, UNISON, is also considering a boycott,
>and a boycott has been endorsed by the leader of the South
>African trade union federation.

>The scheduled governmental meeting comes as some in the Foreign Ministry
>have said privately that Israel has not done enough over the last few months -
>as various groups in Britain debated boycott and divesture - to protest these
>moves, and to persuade the British government to register its opposition
>loudly and publicly as well.

>Livni spoke to British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett about the matter on
>Friday and said that Israel viewed these steps "gravely" and that they stood
>in complete opposition to the good relations that exist between the two
>countries.

>A few days earlier, before the vote by the academic union, Livni discussed the
>matter with British Ambassador Tom Phillips - the first time she held a
>meeting with him devoted primarily to the topic.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


>Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to
>Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.



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It seems that the new pariah state replacing South Africa, is Israel!


>On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 17:47:29 GMT, in soc.culture.jewish "torresdD"
> wrote:

>http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1180527989112&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
>In an indication that Israel is starting to take the threats of
>union boycotts against it more seriously,

>Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni is scheduled to hold an inter-ministerial
>meeting on the matter early this week.

>According to Foreign Ministry officials, the purpose of the meeting -
>which will also include members of academia - will be to draw up an 
>action plan on how to combat both last week's British Union of
>Colleges and Universities decision to consider an academic boycott,
>and how to keep the boycott movement from gaining momentum.

>Britain's largest labor union, UNISON, is also considering a boycott,
>and a boycott has been endorsed by the leader of the South
>African trade union federation.

>The scheduled governmental meeting comes as some in the Foreign Ministry
>have said privately that Israel has not done enough over the last few months -
>as various groups in Britain debated boycott and divesture - to protest these
>moves, and to persuade the British government to register its opposition
>loudly and publicly as well.

>Livni spoke to British Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett about the matter on
>Friday and said that Israel viewed these steps "gravely" and that they stood
>in complete opposition to the good relations that exist between the two
>countries.

>A few days earlier, before the vote by the academic union, Livni discussed the
>matter with British Ambassador Tom Phillips - the first time she held a
>meeting with him devoted primarily to the topic.

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>Stormfront - http://www.stormfront.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com
>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library - http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>American Renaissance - http://www.amren.com
>Campaign for Radical Truth in History - http://www.hoffman-info.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


>Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to
>Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
>Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.



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On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 02:22:28 -0500, Briga  wrote:
>David Johnston wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:37:50 -0800, "i.am.not.usenetizen"
>>  wrote:
 
>>>> American oil interests in the Middle East would put the United States
>>>> at war with them anyway.  
>>> Really?  I don't ever remember any country threatening to cut off oil to 
>>> the USA.

>> Israel did not cause Iraq to invade Kuwait.  Israel did not cause the
>> United States to get nervous about that and the possibility that Iraq
>> would move on to Saudi Arabia.  The United States would have nervous
>> about that if Israel had never been founded.  Israel did not cause
>> Osama Bin Ladin to want to overthrow the Saudi monarchy.  Israel did
>> not cause the Americans to want to prop up the Saudi monarchy with the
>> result being that OBL blamed the Americans for his inability to take
>> over Saudi Arabia.  Israel did not cause the United States to back the
>> Shah of Iran with the result that the subsequent regime had a massive
>> grudge against the Americans.  

>The media has always favored Israel in its news coverage. Billy Graham 
>said it to President Nixon "the Jewish "stranglehold" on the media "has 
>got to be broken or this country's going down the drain"."
>http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/658



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Subject: Is Ken McVay Still Dealing Drugs? Repost
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From:	 	SueeeShiksaCohen 
Date:		Sat, Sep 23 2006 8:24 am

In the massively detailed Dr. Michaels file on McVay, McVay is quoted as
claiming to have been an undercover "narc", who ratted out some of his
competitor drug dealers.

Enquiring minds now wonder whether McVay is still dealing drugs, and is
himself a user.His inside information seems to support this assumption.

Is that how McVay actually got his AIDS, from infected needles from his
butt-buddies who were junkies?

Even Jews are now so critical of this disgusting pervert, that Sol Littman set
up a special website critical of McVay at:
http://www.freedomsite.org/exposed/littman/littman_on_mcvay/index.shtml


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org 

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net,

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.





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Subject: KOSHER TAX VIDEO = ZYD/Jew Kosher Tax on Groceries - Repost
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To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWn--jlRVAI&mode=related&search=


This interesting video gives lots of details about the KOSHER TAX, and all the
emblems used by the ZYDS on products showing they got paid the KOSHER TAX.

By the way, Heinz/Libby stopped paying the KOSHER TAX on many products,
according to articles published in Canadian Jew News!!


On 24 Jul 2005 14:33:54 -0700, gordonv8@hotmail.com wrote:

>Jewish taxation without Gentile representation

>"A hypothesis(?) that readily springs to mind from the above
>revelations is that what we have stumbled upon here is a Jewish tax on
>food which appears to have spread throughout the kitchen to non-food
>items so as to become a Jewish tax on food plus kitchen products, and
>from there made its way to the laundry room so as to become a Jewish
>tax on food plus kitchen products plus laundry products, and from there
>metastacized to the medicine cabinet so as to become a Jewish tax on
>food plus kitchen products plus laundry products plus over-the-counter
>medications.  And the question that the above revelations urgently
>presses upon consciousness is how much this Jewish tax - if it may be
>so described - costs the average Canadian household each year.  Ten
>dollars?  A hundred dollars?  A thousand dollars?  What?  Why don't we
>know?  Why is there no way to find out?  Why isn't this a matter of
>public record?"

>Many graphics of grocery items on this page, click below:

>http://www.ukar.org/tax02.html

>Faster download, less graphics on (this) prior page:

>http://www.ukar.org/ronen01.html

Subject: KOSHER TAX Ripoff-HEINZ/Libby Dumps,Too Expensive to Consumers!!
MORE!

On 27 Sep 2004 15:50:36 -0000, ErnstZundel  wrote:

Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
qualified to do...

Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!

>From: norma2339@charter.net
>Newsgroups: wpg.general,calgary.general
>Subject: Re: Heinz Dumps KOSHER TAX-Too Expensive to Consumers!!
>Date: 2 Apr 2003 02:33:32 -0800
>"veranda"  wrote in message 
>news:...
>> > >     veranda : the origins of Kosher are of very good value since  it
>> > > teaches sanitary way of food storage , handling and preparation .
>> > > Those were valuable practices hundreds of years ago .

>> > >     The whole point is that Today it only duplicates the work of
>> > > Public Food Inspectors and therefore is an unjustified extra cost

>>  wrote in message
>> news:9abc4e06.0304010305.50dc870e@posting.google.com...
>> > What duplication?  It is a symbol on the container and the cost  would
>> > not change in any way.  This "paranoia" is silly.

>veranda : what 'paranoia' ?? we are talking about saving money .
>In order to have the Kosher mark on a product the manufacturer
>must subscribe to the Rabbi inspections ( just like Public
>Inspectors ) and the Rabbi are charging money for their services ,
>you knew that !
>Kosher is Israel's food inspectors , dear , not in Canada though ,
>we got our own  !  :)

>Well, to set the record straight.  The Rabbinate council that approves
>something Kosher according to milk and meat products probably got a
>flat fee and if the company continued to raise the prices that counsel
>doesn't really care.  It is not an item by item thing.  With the
>Kosher diet it matters what foods are eate together (and never mil and
>meat) and one eats mostly milk meals, because the time period between
>those types of meals is longer after meat (a much heavier meal in the
>day.)

>What would it save you--less than $10 a year.

>All countries have their own Rabbinate Councils, so don't think that it
>is just Canada with their own.  Maybe it is the Canadian Rabbis who
>have demanded more money?

>Or, perhaps Philip Wolf, the KOSHER FOOD INSPECTOR in Calgary wanted
>more than the $35,000 a year he got for duplicating the work of the
>Canadian authorities?? Apparently, his part-time stamps business
>couldn't make any money either.


>On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 10:25:20 -0600, Boris Dynin  wrote:

>Further to the article below about Heinz/Libby, the smaller article
>following sheds more light on the KOSHER NOSTRA EXTORTION TAX!!

>The "Kosher Nostra Scam" on the American Consumer
>by
>Ernesto Cienfuegos
>La Voz de Aztlan

>Los Angeles, Alta California - 4/27/2002 - (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan
>receives quite a few "news tips" per week from our many subscribers
>and readers. Some we dismiss immediately but a very few catch our
>attention.
>Last week we received an e-mail asking us if we knew the significance
>of the small encircled letter "U" or letter "K" that can be found
>printed on many food cans, food packages and on other kitchen
>products. The message gave us some clues and suggested that we
>do some research into the subject. What we found
>certainly was "news" to us and it both shocked and angered us.

>On arriving at my residence, I immediately went to the pantry to
>verify that what I had just learned was actually true. Sure enough,
>most of the packaged and canned foods from major companies, like
>Proctor & Gamble and others, did have the (U), the (K) or other
>similar markings. The Arrowhead water bottle, the instant Folgers
>Coffee, the Kelloggs box, the Jiff Peanut Butter, the Pepper
>container, the Trader Joe's tea box and even the Glads plastic
>sandwich bags carton had the (U) or (K) mark on them.

>We needed a little more verification so we called two major companies
>to ask some questions. We chose Proctor & Gamble that markets the
>Folgers Coffee and the Clorox Company that manufactures the Glads
>plastic zip lock sandwich bags. Each of the two companies, as well as
>most others, have 1-800 telephone numbers printed on their packages
>for consumers to call in case they have any questions about their
>products. When we asked the Proctor & Gamble representative what the
>(U) meant on their Folgers Coffee container, she asked us to wait
>until she consulted with her supervisor. She came back and informed us
>that the mark meant that the coffee was " certified kosher".

>We than asked her how and who certified the coffee to be "kosher" and
>whether it cost any money to do so. She refused to answer these and
>other questions. She suggested that we write to their Corporate Public
>Affairs Department. We than called the Clorox Corporation to ask what
>the (U) meant on the package of their Glads plastic sandwich bags and
>she also said that the (U) meant that the plastic bags were "kosher"
>but refused to answer questions concerning payments the Clorox
>Corporation has to make in order to be able to print the (U) on their
>products.

>What we learned next, pretty much floored me personally. I learned
>that major food companies throughout America actually pay a Jewish Tax
>amounting to hundreds of million of dollars per year in order to
>receive protection.
>This hidden tax gets passed, of course, to all non-Jewish consumers of
>the products. The scam is to coerce the companies to pay up or suffer
>the consequences of a Jewish boycott. Jewish consumers have learned
>not to buy any kitchen product that does not have the (U) the (K) and
>other similar markings.

>Another shocker was learning who is actually behind these
>sophisticated "Kosher Nostra Scams." It turns out that the
>perpetrators of these elaborate extortion schemes are actually
>Rabbinical Councils that are set up, not just in the U.S. but in other
>western countries as well. For example, the largest payola operation
>in the U.S. is run by those who license the (U) symbol. The
>(U) symbol provides protection for many products sold here in Aztlan
>and in the United States. This symbol is managed by the The Union of
>Orthodox Jewish Congregations with headquarters at 333 Seventh Avenue
>in New York City.

>The scam works like a well oiled machine and is now generating vast
>amounts of funds, some of which are being utilized by the Union of
>Orthodox Rabbis to support the Ariel Sharon Zionist government in
>Israel. The website of the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations is
>full of pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian propaganda.

>The "Kosher Nostra" protection racket starts when an Orthodox Rabbi
>approaches a company to warn the owners that unless their product is
>certified as kosher, or "fit for a Jew to eat", they will face a
>boycott by every Jew in America. Most, if not all of the food
>companies, succumb to the blackmail because of fear of the Jewish
>dominated media and a boycott that may eventually culminate in
>bankruptcy. Also, the food companies know that the cost can be passed
>on to the consumer anyway. The food companies have kept secret from
>the general consumer the meaning of the (U) and the amount
>of money they have to pay the Jewish Rabbis.

>It is estimated that the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations, which
>manages the (U) symbol protection racket, controls about 85% of the
>"Kosher Nostra " certification business. They now employ about 1200
>Rabbi agents that are spread through out the U.S.

>Food companies must first pay an exorbitant application fee and then a
>large annual fee for the use of the (U) copyright symbol. Secondly,
>the companies must pay separate fees each time a team of Rabbis shows
>up to "inspect" the company's operations.
>Certain food companies are required to hire Rabbis full time at very
>lucrative salaries.

>The amount of money that the non-Jewish consumer has paid the food
>companies to make up for the hidden Jewish Tax is unknown, but it is
>estimated to be in the BILLIONS since the scam first started. The
>Orthodox Jewish Councils as well as the food companies keep the amount
>of the fees very secret. The Jewish owned Wall Street Journal wrote
>about the problem many years ago, but they have stopped writing about
>it now.

>Only public awareness concerning the "Kosher Nostra Scam" will
>eventually help stop this swindle of the American consumer. Public
>education of the scam may lead to an eventual non-Jewish boycott of
>all products with the (U), (K) or other Jewish protection symbols. I
>certainly do not need to pay extra for "kosher water", "kosher coffee"
>or "kosher plastic sandwich bags".
>In fact, I demand my money back for all I had to pay over the years
>for the hidden and illegal Jewish Tax. Are there any bright attorneys
>out there that could bring a class action suit against the Union of
>Orthodox Jewish Congregations on behalf of the citizens of Aztlan and
>other non-Jewish people?
>* * * * * * * * * * * *

>CONGRATULATIONS TO HEINZ/LIBBY FOR STARTING THE
>ANTI-KOSHER NOSTRA REVOLT!!

>>>Further to the article below, today's Southam newspapers
>>>report that Canadian Jew News stated that Heinz Canada
>>>have removed the Koosher Tax Certification from almost
>>>all Heinz products.

>>>Heinz declared this was done " to keep costs down" according
>>>to Heinz spokeman Anna Relyea.

>>>To save money Heinz stopped the KOSHER TAX on tomato sauces
>>>and pastes, vinegar and mustard, and also jars of baby foods.
>>>Also, the KOSHER TAX was dropped on all domestic beans,
>>>including those sold under the Libby's label.

>>>Naturally, the ZHID rabbis who made a killing in fees from
>>>the KOSHER TAX are now complaining, according to Rabbi
>>>Mordechai Levin, executive director of COR(Council of
>>>Orthodox Rabbis).

>>>Good for Heinz!! Perhaps now more firms will join the
>>>refusal to pay the KOSHER TAX!!!


>>>From: tyler 
>>>Newsgroups: calgary.general,soc.culture.jewish,edm.general
>>>Subject: You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs
>>>consumers
>>>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:55:49 GMT

>>>You asked for it! Proof that COR religous tax on food costs consumers

>>>It has been said by zionists and orthodox that the COR tax on Canadian
>>>food does not cost the consumer. Of course this is ridiculous and the
>>>proof is easily found.

>>>COR stands for Council of Orthodox Jews. They certify foods as kosher.
>>>Foods such as Heinz Ketchup and Windsor Salt, and non foods such as
>>>aluminum foil and bleach, have COR certification. Look at the label,
>>>if you see COR followed by a number then the manufacturer pays rabbis
>>>to inspect food, facilities and preparation methods. If they conform
>>>to religious law then the product is certified as kosher.


>>>The following has been snipped from:

>>>http://www.kosherquest.org/html/Reliable_Kosher_Symbols.htm

>>>Pay attention to the fact that kosher certification, in other words
>>>rabbinical organizations, can derive profit. COR certification costs
>>>are passed along to the consumer by the manufacturer and a religious
>>>organization is profitting. Canadian consumers must boyocott any COR
>>>certified food product to stop a religion from hijiacking Canadian
>>>food production and unfairly profiting from the sale of food items.

>>>The website explains:

>>>Once contact with a certifying agency is made, the detective work
>>>begins. The manufacturer must supply a complete, detailed list of
>>>every ingredient in the product, including preservatives, release
>>>agents, stabilizers or other inert ingredients. In addition, every
>>>step in the manufacturing process, every cleansing agent used on the
>>>equipment and all other products produced on the same premises require
>>>close investigation and supervision.

>>>The certifying agency must track down each ingredient to its ultimate
>>>source. If, for instance, the ingredient is meat or a meat by-product,
>>>the item cannot be kosher unless the meat source itself is strictly
>>>kosher. Wine and wine by-products, cheese, and some dairy by-products
>>>(such as whey) present the same problem. Any oil used in the
>>>manufacture of foodstuffs has to be traced back to the oil processor.
>>>The supervising agency must conduct a complete and intense
>>>investigation into the origin of all the ingredients.

>>>The results of all these investigations are forwarded to the rabbinic
>>>authority (or board) of the supervising agency. If changes in
>>>ingredients or processes are required, the manufacturer must make the
>>>changes before the agency will do further work. Once all is
>>>acceptable, the rabbinic authority will determine the amount of
>>>on-plant supervision necessary. This information is written into a
>>>contract and then sent to the manufacturer.

>>>The cost of certification to the manufacturer is minimal. For
>>>non-profit agencies, cost depends on the amount of on-site work.
>>>Agencies making a profit might have a minimum annual charge and fees
>>>depending on the gross annual sales of the product.

>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>>The cost is minimal to the manufacturer because they are passed on to
>>>the consumer. The consumer pays 100% of the costs, no wonder they say
>>>that!

>>>...and whoever heard of a rabbinical agency not making money. They
>>>likely all have a minimum annual charge and fees based on the gross
>>>annual sales of the product.

>>>The website claims that certification increases sales. Ask your
>>>friends and neighbours if they  know what COR means. Unless they are
>>>Jewish, they won't have any idea. So much for sales being increased
>>>because something is certified.

>>>tyler
>>>the consumer watchdog!!!

As to what those markings mean: 

The letter "K" simply means "Kosher." Kosher, in Hebrew, means fit or proper, 
and is generally used to describe foods that are prepared in accordance with 
special Jewish dietary laws. These laws are stringent and almost 
incomprehensible to those not versed in them. 

The small "u" in a circle or ("OU") stands for the Union of Orthodox Jewish 
Congregations and shows that the food underwent rabbinical supervision in its 
preparation. (An "OUD" marking shows that the package contains dairy products,
while an "OUM" indicates the presence of meat.) 

"Parve" (also "pareve") is Yiddish for "neutral." The presence of this word on
packaging signifies that the contents of the package contain neither milk nor 
meat and thus can be combined with other ingredients in recipes. (Jewish 
dietary law forbids the mixing of meat and dairy, thus a packaged food that 
contained cheese could not be combined with, say, hamburger.) 

This variety of markings used on packaged foods alert consumers that items 
contained therein either meet the strict dietary constraints imposed by
Judaism 
on its followers or that the contents of the package can be mixed with other 
foods or can touch them. Not all Jews keep kosher, nor even among those who do
are the strictures always adhered to rigorously, but those determined upon 
being truly pious are aided in this endeavor by the presence of those
markings. 
The devout go so far as to maintain two separate sets of utensils, cookware, 
and cutting surfaces so that meat and dairy never encounter one another in 
their kitchens. It is for their benefit that otherwise puzzling kosher 
certifications on non-foodstuff items are there (e.g., certifications are 
placed upon dishwashing liquid because dishes used for dairy cannot be washed 
using a soap made from animal fats). 

Less observant Jews do not bother themselves overly much about the kosherness 
of everyday items; they avoid the out-and-out no-nos such as pork and
shellfish 
but don't lose much sleep over the animal fat content of their washing-up 
liquid, nor do they fret that cold cuts might now be resting upon a plate that
had months earlier been used to serve cheese. The proponents of the "Jewish 
Secret Tax" slander often assert that a sub rosa Jewish cabal forces large 
companies to comply via the threat of a nationwide boycott, backed by the 
underlying presumption that all Jews can be marshalled into turning their
backs 
on products that fail to display kosher certification marks. That is not the 
case ? Jews buy and use non-kosher items too, so although lack of kosher 
certification keeps the ultra-conservative crowd from buying certain products,
it doesn't prevent the less stringent from making such purchases, nor would a 
"don't buy that because it's not kosher" directive have much effect even if 
there were a secret Jewish cabal to issue it. 

Those seeking kosher certification for their products have to adhere to kosher
practices through the manufacturing process, use only kosher ingredients, and 
have their facilities regularly vetted by qualified inspectors. Kosher 
certification companies do charge for this service, which is the backbone of 
the "secret tax" claim ? it costs money to obtain and maintain kosher 
certification, thus this is an extra expense a manufacturer must bear if he's 
determined upon having that certification. Where the rumor and reality part 
ways, however, is where the money goes. Fees paid to kosher certification 
companies go to keeping those businesses afloat with the profits siphoned off 
by those companies' owners; they do not flow off into some special Jewish fund
used to advance Zionist causes. These are businesses, not charities, and those
who run them do so with every expectation of making a living, in the same 
manner that someone who owns a hardware store does so with the notion of
making 
enough from the endeavor to support himself and his family. 

Does certification add to the price of a product? Certainly, but the amount is
miniscule, especially compared to the advertising, packaging, shipping, 
research, testing, admin and finance-related costs, and a myriad of other 
components that contribute to the process of bringing a product to market or 
making it better appeal to consumers. One might as well rail against the costs
associated with selecting the ink colors and style of lettering used on a 
package ? it's all legitimate business expense, even though no one ever rails 
against the "Secret Red Ink Conspiracy" or rants about the "Helvetica Font 
Tax." 

Barbara "heading for Helvetica in a handbasket" Mikkelson 

Additional information: 

    	    A Kosher Primer 
    (Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America) 	

Last updated:   24 May 2002 
  
The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/kosher.htm


Harry Mazal  wrote:
  
> Heinz/Libby held a press conference, to tell the world the truth.
> Canadian Jewish News published articles detailing the situation, and
> complaining about the fact that some of the ZHID groups would not be getting
> the many millions of dollars from Heinz.

> Which is more reliable, Heinz and the newspaper, or you, you snivelling rat?

> On 1 Sep 2005 14:53:43 -0700, sheldon@liberman.com wrote:
> >GeorgeF wrote:
> >> NOTICE THAT NONE OF THE FILTHY ZHID APOLOGISTS FOR THIS EXTORTION
> >> WILL SAY WHAT IS THE TOTAL IN HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PAID
> >> FOR THIS EXTORTION!!

> >> We do know that Philip Wolf a part-time kosher food inspector (sic)
> >> in Calgary Canada testified in court that he gets $35,000 for his
> >> part-time job!!

> >> Heinz/Libby finally got fed up this year,and stopped paying the
> >> extortion tax!!

> >> Now, when you buy HEINZ and LIBBY goods, you are no
> >> longer lining the pocketrs of the COR Jew parasites,
> >> like the so-called kosher food inspector in Calgary,
> >> Toronto and wherever they hide under the rocks....
> >> Now, these leeches will have to try and find some work to do,
> >> such as janitorial, road sweeping or whatever they may be
> >> qualified to do...

> >> Notice that parasite Ken McVay AGREES WITH THE TRUTH OF THE
> >> ARTICLES. That is why his Jew masters have him do ad
> >> hominem attacks instead, to try and divert attention!!


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant



For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.


Reply-To: "George" ,
or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
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~~




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On Thu, 24 May 2007 12:28:25 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Like Fraud? DickWarren is also known as Edmond Grosvomit the fraud who 
>changes names every 5 minutes.
>Quick send him money IF you are stupid!

Frank Arthur, alias Grosvomit,[me]  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh,
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud

On Wed, 02 May 2007 17:02:32 GMT, KenOyVeigh
 wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:10:00 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>>Edmond Grosvomit still reeks of fraudulent names-Arthur Franks today?
>>Then a continuous list of faked names again.
>>Trust that idiot?


>From all the postings from Frank Arthur, with all the aliases, it seems that
you must be the Grosvomit, nicht wahr?

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:45:29 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.[me]

>I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup.

I am  either insane, or just another ZYD liar, since I have constantly
been posting to this, and other newsgroups!!

>The pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.
>He is known as Grosvomit from Canada

There have never been any postings by anyone named Grosvomit, 
just piles of articles by me, Frank Arthur.


>The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
>tab:

>Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

There are no gray tabs on newsgroup articles, which proves I am a lunatic




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From: "Syja Macohstain" 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Nazi-Zionist collaboration
Date: 10 Feb 2007 11:30:05 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com

EICHMANN IN JERUSALEM
byHannah Arendt

Zionist Emigration and Gestapo Expulsion

(pp. 59-61)

During its first few years, Hitler's rise to power appeared to the
Zionists chiefly as 'the decisive defeat of assimilationism'. Hence, the
Zionists could, for a time, at least, engage in a certain amount of non-
criminal cooperation with the Nazi authorities; the Zionists too believed 
that "dissimilation," combined with the emigration to Palestine of Jewish
youngsters and, they hoped, Jewish capitalists, could be a "mutually
fair solution."

At the time, many German officials held this opinion, and this kind
of seems to have been quite common up to the end. A letter from a
survivor of Theresienstadt, a German Jew, relates that all leading
positions in the Nazi-appointed "Reichsvereiningung" were held by
Zionists (whereas the authentic Jewish "Reichsvereiningung" had 
been composed of both Zionists and non-Zionists), because Zionists, 
according to the Nazis, were the "decent" Jews since they too thought 
in "national terms." To be sure, no prominent Nazi ever spoke publicly 
in this vein; from beginning to end, Nazi propaganda was fiercely,
unequivocally, uncompromisingly anti-Semitic, and eventually nothing 
counted but what people who were still without experience in the 
mysteries of totalitarian government dismissed as "mere propaganda."

There existed in those first years a mutually highly satisfactory
agreement between the Nazi authorities and the Jewish Agency for 
Palestine - a ' Ha'avara', or Transfer Agreement, which provided that 
an emigrant to Palestine could transfer his money there in German 
goods and exchange them for pounds upon arrival. It was soon the 
only legal way for a Jew to take his money with him (the alternative then
being the establishment of a blocked account, which could be liquidated 
abroad only at a loss of between fifty and ninety-five per cent). The result
was that in the thirties, when American Jewry took great pains to organize 
a boycott of German merchandise, Palestine, of all places, was swamped 
with all kinds of goods "made in Germany."

Of Greater importance for Eichmann were the emissaries from Palestine,
who would approach the Gestapo and the S.S. on their own initiative,
without taking orders from either the German Zionists or the Jewish Agency
for Palestine. They came in order to enlist the help for the illegal
immigration of Jews into British-ruled Palestine, and both the Gestapo 
and the S.S: were helpful. They negotiated with Eichmann in Vienna, 
and they reported that he was "polite, not the shouting type," and that 
he even provided them with farms and facilities for setting up vocational
training camps for prospective immigrants. ("On one occasion, he expelled 
a group of nuns from a convent to provide a training farm for young Jews" 
and on another 'a special train was made available and Nazi officials
accompanied' a group of emigrants, ostensibly headed for Zionist training
farms in Yugoslavia, to see them safely across the border).

According to the story told by Jon and David Kimche, with "the full
and generous cooperation of all the chief actors" (THE SECRET ROADS: 
THE ILLEGAL MIGRATION OF A PEOPLE, 1938-1948, London, 1954), 
these Jews from Palestine spoke a language not totally different from that 
of Eichmann. They had been sent to Europe by the communal settlements 
in Palestine, and they were not interested in rescue operations: "That was 
not their job." They wanted to select "suitable material," and their chief
enemy, prior to the extermination program, was not those who made life
impossible for Jews in the old countries, Germany or Austria, but those 
who barred access to the new homeland: that enemy was definitely 
Britain, not Germany.

Indeed, they were in a position to deal with the Nazi authorities on a
footing amounting to equality, which native Jews were not, since they 
enjoyed the protection of the mandatory power. They were probably 
among the first Jews to talk openly about mutual interests and were 
certainly the first to be given permission "to pick young Jewish pioneers"
>from among the Jews in the concentration camps. Of course, they were 
unaware of the sinister implications of this deal, which still lay in the
future; but they too somehow believed that if it was a question of selecting
Jews for survival, the Jews should do the selecting themselves. It was this
fundamental error in judgement that eventually led to a situation in which 
the non-selected majority of Jews inevitably found themselves confronted 
with two enemies - the Nazi authorities and the Jewish authorities".



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Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history,
will be doomed to repeat history.

With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID
COLLABORATION WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  
plus RUMKOWSKI, one MUST question the HOLOHOAX figures!!

Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi 
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi 
wrote:

>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>Christkiller ZHIDS.

>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.


>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>wrote:

>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>                alone with your children?


>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!

>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
> wrote:

> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
> > 1) who were the members of the
> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
> > 2) what was their social status?
> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.

> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
> > know the answers.
> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.

> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
> > a report for what target each bullet was used
> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
> > the genocide.

>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.

> > On the other hand there was a police force in
> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.

> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
> > has at least matura (two years of college)
> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
> > journalist who with the day of German
> > occupation immediately were fired from
> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
> > the schools were closed.

> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
> your life a little longer or die now!

> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
> killed in the next "relocation"!

> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.

> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
> > women passing out and forced into
> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
> > -------------
> > Jozef Pawlikowski

> Herman


First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!!
Me

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
John Bryant

TOLERANCE is a virtue of a man WITHOUT convictions.
G. K. Chesterton.


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur,
or to Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
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like.


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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 22:16:48 +0200, in de.soc.politik.misc Sonia
Cabrera wrote:

Weiss jemand genaueres über die Vorwürfe, das Wiesenthal mit der
Gestapo kollaborierte? In der Tagesschau wurde gemeldet, das
Wiesenthal die Kollaboration unterstellt wurde, da es unerklärlich
scheint, das er 12 verschiedene KZs überlebte.
Dazu folgendes im Netz:

Eichmann reiste zusammen mit Hagen. Ihr Unternehmen war in der Ge-
schichte der Kooperation zwischen Zionisten und Nazis gewiß nur eine
Episode. Aber die Tatsache, daß der berüchtigte Judenmörder Eichmann
damals bei den Zionisten sich größter Wertschätzung er- freute, war so
entlarvend, daß man sie tunlichst zu verbergen trachtete. Da die
Tatsache der Reise früher oder später ans Licht kommen mochte, wählte
man das einfachste Verfahren: Man gab den Schwarzen Peter weiter.
Bereits 1947 findet sich in einer Broschüre von Simon Wiesenthal die
Mitteilung, Eichmanns Reise habe dem Ziel gedient, Kontakt zu den
aufständischen Palästinensern aufzunehmen und mit dem Mufti
zu konspirieren.[28] Diese Lüge hat seither immer neue Varianten
erlebt und ist sogar im Eichmann-Prozess in Jerusalem wiederholt
worden.

http://www.aldeilis.net/zion/zionhol12.html


On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:30:16 -0700, in soc.culture.palestine
WakeUp2005@adelphia.net wrote:

Simon Wiesenthal: Fraudulent 'Nazi Hunter'

By Mark Weber

For more than 40 years, Simon Wiesenthal has been tracking hundreds of
"Nazi criminals" from his "Jewish Documentation Center" in Vienna. For
his work as the world's most prominent "Nazi hunter," he has been
awarded several honorary degrees and numerous medals, including
Germany's highest decoration. In a formal White House ceremony in
August 1980, a teary-eyed President Carter presented him with a
special gold medal awarded by the US Congress. President Reagan
praised him in November 1988 as one of the "true heroes" of this
century.

This living legend was portrayed in flattering terms by the late
Laurence Oliver in the 1978 film fantasy "The Boys From Brazil," and
by Ben Kingsley in the 1989 HBO made-for-television movie "Murderers
Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal Story." One of world's most prominent
Holocaust organizations bears his name: the Simon Wiesenthal Center of
Los Angeles.

Wiesenthal's reputation as a moral authority is undeserved. The man
whom The Washington Post has called the "Holocaust's Avenging Angel"
[1] has a little known but well-documented record of reckless
disregard for truth. He has lied about his own wartime experiences,
misrepresented his postwar "Nazi-hunting" achievements, and has spread
vile falsehoods about alleged German atrocities.

Different Stories
Szymon (Simon) Wiesenthal was born on December 31, 1908, in Buczacz, a
town in the province of Galicia (now Buchach in Ukraine) in what was
then the eastern fringe of the Austro-Hungarian empire. His father was
a prosperous wholesale sugar merchant.

In spite of all that has been written about him, just what Wiesenthal
did during the war years under German occupation remains unclear. He
has given conflicting stories in three separate accounts of his
wartime activities. The first was given under oath during a two day
interrogation session in May 1948 conducted by an official of the US
Nuremberg war crimes commission. [2] The second is a summary of his
life provided by Wiesenthal as part of a January 1949 "Application for
Assistance" to the International Refugee Committee. [3] And the third
account is given in his autobiography, The Murderers Among Us, first
published in 1967. [4]

Soviet Engineer or Factory Mechanic?
In his 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal declared that "between 1939 and
1941" he was a "Soviet chief engineer working in Lvov and Odessa." [5]
Consistent with that, he stated in his 1949 declaration that from
December 1939 to April 1940 he worked as an architect in the Black Sea
port of Odessa. But according to his autobiography, he spent the
period between mid-September 1939 and June 1941 in Soviet-ruled Lvov,
where he worked "as a mechanic in a factory that produced bedsprings."
[6]

Relative Freedom
After the Germans took control of Galicia province in June 1941,
Wiesenthal was interned for a time in the Janowska concentration camp
near Lvov, from where he was transferred a few months later to a camp
affiliated with the repair works (OAW) in Lvov of the Ostbahn
("Eastern Railroad") of German-ruled Poland. Wiesenthal reported in
his autobiography that he worked there "as a technician and
draftsman," that he was rather well treated, and that his immediate
superior, who was "secretly anti-Nazi," even permitted him to own two
pistols. He had his own office in a "small wooden hut," and enjoyed
"relative freedom and was permitted to walk all over the yards." [7]

Partisan Fighter?
The next segment of Wiesenthal's life -- from October 1943 to June
1944 -- is the most obscure, and his accounts of this period are
contradictory. During his 1948 interrogation, Wiesenthal said that he
fled from the Janowska camp in Lvov and joined a "partisan group which
operated in the Tarnopol-Kamenopodolsk area." [8] He said that "I was
a partisan from October 6, 1943, until the middle of February 1944,"
and declared that his unit fought against Ukrainian forces, both of
the SS "Galicia" division and of the independent UPA partisan force.
[9]

Wiesenthal said that he held the rank of lieutenant and then major,
and was responsible for building bunkers and fortification lines.
Although he was not explicit, he suggested that this (supposed)
partisan unit was part of the Armia Ludowa ("Peoples Army"), the
Polish Communist military force established and controlled by the
Soviets. [10]

He said that he and other partisans slipped into Lvov in February
1944, where they were "hidden by friends of the A.L. ['People's Army']
group." On June 13, 1944, his group was captured by the German Secret
Field Police. (Although Jewish partisans caught in hiding were often
shot, Wiesenthal reports that he was somehow spared.) Wiesenthal told
much the same story in his 1949 statement. He said that he fled from
internment in early October 1943 and then "fought against the Germans
as a partisan in the forest" for eight months -- from October 2, 1943,
to March 1944. After that, he was "in hiding" in Lvov from March to
June 1944.

Wiesenthal tells a totally different story in his 1967 autobiography.
He reports there that after escaping from the Ostbahn Repair Works on
Oct. 2, 1943, he lived in hiding in the houses of various friends
until June 13, 1944, when he was discovered by Polish and German
police and returned to a concentration camp. He makes no mention of
any partisan membership or activity. [11]

According to both his 1948 interrogation and his 1967 autobiography,
he tried to commit suicide on June 15, 1944, by cutting his wrists.
Remarkably, though, he was saved from death by German SS doctors and
recovered in an SS hospital. [12] He remained in the Lvov
concentration camp "with double rations" for a time, and then, he
reports in his autobiography, he was transferred to various work
camps. He spent the remaining chaotic months, until the end of the
war, in different camps until he was liberated from Mauthausen (in
Austria) by American forces on May 5, 1945. [13]

Did Wiesenthal invent a past as a heroic wartime partisan? Or did he
later try to suppress his record as a Communist fighter? Or is the
true story altogether different -- and too shameful to admit?

Nazi Agent?
Did Wiesenthal voluntarily work for his wartime oppressors? That's the
accusation leveled by Austrian Chancellor Bruno Kreisky, himself of
Jewish ancestry and leader for many years of his country's Socialist
Party. During an interview with foreign journalists in 1975, Kreisky
charged Wiesenthal with using "Mafia methods," rejected his pretense
of "moral authority," and suggested that he was an agent for the
German authorities. Some of his more pertinent remarks, which appeared
in Austria's leading news magazine Profil, include: [14]

I really know Mr. Wiesenthal only from secret reports, and they are
bad, very nasty. I say this as Federal Chancellor ... And I say that
Mr. Wiesenthal had a different relationship with the Gestapo than I
did. Yes, and this can be proven. I can't say more [now]. Everything
else, I'll say in court.

My relationship with the Gestapo is unambiguous. I was their prisoner,
their inmate, and I was interrogated. His relationship was a different
one, I can say, and this will come out clearly. It's bad enough what
I've already said here. But he can't clear himself by charging me with
defaming his honor in the press, as he might wish. It's not that
simple, because that would mean a big court case ... A man like this
doesn't have the right to pretend to be a moral authority. That's what
I say. He doesn't have the right ...

Whether a man who, in my view, is an agent, yes, that's right, and who
uses Mafia methods ... Such a man has to go ...

He is no gentleman, and I would say, to make this clear, so that he
won't become a moral authority, because he is not ... He shouldn't
pretend to be a moral authority ...

I say that Mr. Wiesenthal lived in that time in the Nazi sphere of
influence without being persecuted. Right? And he lived openly without
being persecuted, right? Is that clear? And you perhaps know, if you
know what was going on, that no one could risk that.

He wasn't a "submarine" ... that is, submerged and in hiding, but
instead, he was completely in the open without having to, well, ever
risk persecution. I think that's enough. There were so many
opportunities to be an agent. He didn't have to be a Gestapo agent.
There were many other services.

In response to these damning words, Wiesenthal began efforts to bring
a lawsuit against the Chancellor. Eventually, though, both Wiesenthal
and Kreisky backed away from a major legal clash.

Mauthausen Myths
Before he became famous as a "Nazi hunter," he made a name for himself
as a propagandist. In 1946 Wiesenthal published KZ Mauthausen, an
85-page work that consists mainly of his own amateurish sketches
purporting to represent the horrors of the Mauthausen concentration
camp. One drawing depicts three inmates who had been bound to posts
and brutally put to death by the Germans. [15]

The sketch is completely phony. It was copied -- with some minor
alterations -- from photographs that appeared in Life magazine in
1945, which graphically record the firing-squad execution in December
1944 of three German soldiers who had been caught operating as spies
behind the lines during the "Battle of the Bulge." [16] The source of
the Wiesenthal drawing is instantly obvious to anyone who compares it
with the Life photos. [17]

The irresponsible character of this book is also shown by Wiesenthal's
extensive citation therein of the supposed "death bed confession" of
Mauthausen Commandant Franz Ziereis, according to which four million
were gassed to death with carbon monoxide at the nearby Hartheim
satellite camp. [18] This claim is totally absurd, and no serious
Holocaust historian still accepts it. [19] Also according to the
Ziereis "confession" cited by Wiesenthal, the Germans supposedly
killed another ten million people in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia.
[20] In fact, this fraudulent "confession" was obtained by torture.
[21]

Years later, Wiesenthal was still lying about Mauthausen. In a 1983
interview with the daily newspaper USA Today, he said of his
experience in Mauthausen: "I was one of 34 prisoners alive out of
150,000 who had been put there." [22] This is a blatant falsehood. The
years have apparently not been kind to Wiesenthal's memory, because in
his own autobiography he wrote that "almost 3,000 prisoners died in
Mauthausen after the Americans liberated us on May 5, 1945." [23]
Another former inmate, Evelyn Le Chene, reported in her standard work
about Mauthausen that there were 64,000 inmates in the camp when it
was liberated in May 1945. [24] And according to the Encyclopaedia
Judaica, at least 212,000 inmates survived internment in the
Mauthausen camp complex. [25]

After the war Wiesenthal worked for the US Office of Strategic
Services (the forerunner of the CIA) and the US Army's
Counter-Intelligence Corps (CIC). He was also vice chairman of the
Jewish Central Committee in the US occupation zone of Austria. [26]

'Human Soap'
Wiesenthal has given circulation and credence to one of the most
scurrilous Holocaust stories, the charge that the Germans manufactured
soap from the corpses of murdered Jews. According to this tale, the
letters "RIF" in bars of German-made soap allegedly stood for "Pure
Jewish Fat" ("Rein judisches Fett"). In reality, the initials stood
for "National Center for Industrial Fat Provisioning" ("Reichstelle
fur industrielle Fettversorgung"). [27]

Wiesenthal promoted the "human soap" legend in articles published in
1946 in the Austrian Jewish community paper Der Neue Weg ("The New
Path"). In an article entitled "RIF," he wrote: "The terrible words
'transport for soap' were first heard at the end of 1942. It was in
the [Polish] General Government, and the factory was in Galicia, in
Belzec. From April 1942 until May 1943, 900,000 Jews were used as raw
material in this factory." After the corpses were turned into various
raw materials, Wiesenthal wrote, "The rest, the residual fat stuff,
was used for soap production."

He continued: "After 1942 people in the General Government knew quite
well what the RIF soap meant. The civilized world may not believe the
joy with which the Nazis and their women in the General Government
thought of this soap. In each piece of soap they saw a Jew who had
been magically put there, and had thus been prevented from growing
into a second Freud, Ehrlich or Einstein." [28]

In another imaginative article published in 1946 entitled "Belzec Soap
Factory," Wiesenthal alleged that masses of Jews were exterminated in
electrocution showers: [29]

The people, pressed together and driven on by the SS, Latvians and
Ukrainians, go through the open door into the "bath." Five hundred
persons could fit at a time. The floor of the "bath chamber" was made
of metal and shower heads hung from the ceiling. When the room was
full, the SS turned on the 5,000 volts of electric current in the
metal plate. At the same time water poured from the shower heads. A
short scream and the execution was over. An SS chief physician named
Schmidt determined through a peep hole that the victims were dead. The
second door was opened and the "corpse commando" came in and quickly
removed the dead. It was ready for the next 500.

Today no serious historian accepts the stories that Jewish corpses
were manufactured into bars of soap or that Jews were electrocuted to
death at Belzec (or anywhere).

Wiesenthal's imaginative view of history is not limited to the
twentieth century. In his 1973 book Sails of Hope, he argued that
Christopher Columbus was a secret Jew, and that his famous voyage to
the western hemisphere in 1492 was actually a search for a new
homeland for Europe's Jews. [30]

Wiesenthal is not always wrong, of course. In 1975 and again in 1993
he publicly acknowledged that "there were no extermination camps on
German soil." [31] He thus implicitly conceded that the claims made at
the postwar Nuremberg Tribunal and elsewhere that Buchenwald, Dachau
and other camps in Germany proper were "extermination camps" are not
true.

'Fabrications' About Eichmann
In more than 40 years of "Nazi hunting," Wiesenthal's role in locating
and capturing Adolf Eichmann is often considered his greatest
achievement. [32] (Eichmann headed the wartime SS Jewish affairs
department. He was kidnapped by Israeli agents in Argentina in May
1960 and hanged in Jerusalem after a trial that received worldwide
media attention.)

But Isser Harel, the Israeli official who headed the team that seized
Eichmann, has declared unequivocally that Wiesenthal had "absolutely
nothing" to do with the capture. (Harel is a former head of both the
Mossad and Shin Bet, Israel's foreign and domestic security agencies.)
[33]

Wiesenthal not only "had no role whatsoever" in the apprehension, said
Harel, but in fact he endangered the entire Eichmann operation. In a
278-page manuscript, Harel carefully refuted every claim by Wiesenthal
about his supposed role in identifying and capturing Eichmann. Claims
by Wiesenthal and his many friends about his supposedly crucial role
in capturing the former SS officer, said Harel, have no foundation in
fact. Many specific assertions and incidents described in two books by
Wiesenthal, said the Israeli official, are "complete fabrications."
[34]

"Wiesenthal's reports and statements at that period prove beyond any
doubt that he had no notion of Eichmann's whereabouts," said Harel.
[35] (For example, just before Eichmann's capture in Argentina,
Wiesenthal was placing him in Japan and Saudi Arabia.) [36]

Characterizing Wiesenthal as a rank opportunist, Harel summed up: "All
the information supplied by Wiesenthal before and in anticipation of
the [Eichmann] operation was utterly worthless, and sometimes even
misleading and of negative value." [37]

Reckless Charges in Walus Case
One of Wiesenthal's most spectacular cases involved a Polish-born
Chicago man named Frank Walus. In a letter dated December 10, 1974, he
charged that Walus "delivered Jews to the Gestapo" in Czestochowa and
Kielce in Poland during the war. This letter prompted a US government
investigation and legal action. [38] The Washington Post dealt with
the case in a 1981 article entitled "The Nazi Who Never Was: How a
witch hunt by judge, press and investigators branded an innocent man a
war criminal." The lengthy piece, which was copyrighted by the
American Bar Association, reported: [39]

In January 1977, the United States government accused a Chicagoan
named Frank Walus of having committed atrocities in Poland during
World War II.

In the following years, this retired factory worker went into debt in
order to raise more than $60,000 to defend himself. He sat in a
courtroom while eleven Jewish survivors of the Nazi occupation of
Poland testified that they saw him murder children, an old woman, a
young woman, a hunchback and others ...

Overwhelming evidence shows that Walus was not a Nazi War criminal,
that he was not even in Poland during World War II.

... In an atmosphere of hatred and loathing verging on hysteria, the
government persecuted an innocent man. In 1974, Simon Wiesenthal, the
famous "Nazi hunter" of Vienna, denounced Walus as "a Pole in Chicago
who performed duties with the Gestapo in the ghettos of Czestochowa
and Kielce and handed over a number of Jews to the Gestapo."

The Chicago weekly newspaper Reader also reported on the case in a
detailed 1981 article headlined: "The Persecution of Frank Walus: To
Catch a Nazi: The U.S. government wanted a war criminal. So, with the
help of Simon Wiesenthal, the Israeli police, the local press and
Judge Julius Hoffman, they invented one." [40] The article stated:

... It is logical to assume that the "reports received by Wiesenthal
[against Walus] actually were rumors... In other words, Simon
Wiesenthal had no evidence against Walus. He denounced him anyway.

While [Judge] Hoffman had the Walus case under advisement, Holocaust
aired on television. During the same period, in April 1978, Simon
Wiesenthal came to Chicago, where he gave interviews taking credit for
the Walus case. "How Nazi-Hunter Helped Find Walus," was the Sun-Times
headline on a story by Bob Olmstead. Wiesenthal told Sun-Times Abe
Peck that he "has never had a case of mistaken identity." "I know
there are thousands of people who wait for my mistake," he said.

It was only after an exhausting legal battle that the man who was
vilified and physically attacked as "the butcher of Kielce" was
finally able to prove that he had spent the war years as a peaceful
farm laborer in Germany. Frank Walus died in August 1994, a broken and
bitterly disappointed man, man.

Wiesenthal's recklessness in the Walus case should have been enough to
permanently discredit him as a reliable investigator. But his Teflon
reputation survived even this.

Wrong about Mengele
Much of the Wiesenthal myth is based on his hunt for Joseph Mengele,
the wartime physician at Auschwitz known as the "Angel of Death." Time
and time again, Wiesenthal claimed to be close on Mengele's heels.
Wiesenthal reported that his informants had "seen" or "just missed"
the elusive physician in Peru, Chile, Brazil, Spain, Greece, and half
a dozen locations in Paraguay. [41]

One of the closest shaves came in the summer of 1960. Wiesenthal
reported that Mengele had been hiding out on a small Greek island,
>from where he escaped by just a few hours. Wiesenthal continued to
peddle this story, complete with precise details, even after a
reporter whom he had hired to check it out informed him that the tale
was false from beginning to end. [42]

According to another Wiesenthal report, Mengele arranged for the
murder in 1960 of one of his former victims, a woman he had supposedly
sterilized in Auschwitz. After spotting her, and her distinctive camp
tattoo, at a hotel in Argentina where he was staying, Mengele
allegedly arranged to have her killed because he feared that she would
expose him. It turned out that the woman was never in a concentration
camp, had no tattoo, had never met Mengele, and her death was a simple
mountaineering accident. [43]

Mengele regularly dined at the finest restaurants in Asuncion, the
Paraguayan capital, Wiesenthal said in 1977, and supposedly drove
around the city with a bevy of armed guards in his black Mercedes
Benz. [44]

Wiesenthal announced in 1985 that he was "100 percent sure" that
Mengele had been hiding out in Paraguay until at least June 1984, and
charged that the Mengele family in Germany knew exactly where. As it
turned out, Wiesenthal was completely wrong. It was later definitively
established that Mengele had died in 1979 in Brazil, where he had been
living for years in anonymous poverty. [45]

Israel's ambassador to Paraguay from 1968 to 1972, Benjamin (Benno)
Varon, remarked in 1983 on the Mengele campaign: "Wiesenthal makes
periodic statements that he is about to catch him, perhaps since
Wiesenthal must raise funds for his activities and the name Mengele is
always good for a plug." Wiesenthal "failed miserably" in the Mengele
case, the diplomat said on another occasion. [46] In the Mengele case,
former Mossad chief Harel remarked, "Wiesenthal's folly borders on the
criminal." [47]

In truth, the bulging Mengele file in Wiesenthal's Vienna
"Documentation Center" was such a jumble of useless information that,
in the words of the London Times, it "only sustained his
self-confirmatory myths and gave scant satisfaction to those who
apparently needed a definitive answer to Mengele's fate." [48]

In the considered view of Gerald Posner and John Ware, coauthors of
Mengele: The Complete Story, Wiesenthal spent years assiduously
cultivating a mythical "self-image of a tireless, dogged sleuth,
pitted against the omnipotent and sinister might of Mengele and a vast
Nazi network." Because of his "knack of playing to the gallery,"
Posner and Ware concluded, Wiesenthal "ultimately compromised his
credibility." [49]

'Incompetence and Arrogance'
Eli Rosenbaum, an official with the US government's "Nazi hunting"
Office of Special Investigations and an investigator for the World
Jewish Congress, took aim at Wiesenthal's carefully cultivated "Nazi
hunter" reputation in a detailed 1993 book, Betrayal. [50] For
example, Rosenbaum mentioned, Wiesenthal "had all these reports
placing Mengele in almost every country in Latin America except the
one he was in -- namely, Brazil." [51]

Wiesenthal, wrote Rosenbaum, has been a "pathetically ineffective"
investigator who had "gone far beyond the buffoonery and false boasts
in prior years." Much of his illustrious career, Rosenbaum said, has
been characterized by "incompetence and arrogance." [52]

Bruno Kreisky once summed up his attitude towards the "Nazi hunter" in
these words: [53]

The engineer Wiesenthal, or whatever else his title is, hates me
because he knows that I despise his activity. The Wiesenthal group is
a quasi-political Mafia that works against Austria with disgraceful
methods. Wiesenthal is known as someone who isn't very careful about
the truth, who is not very selective about his methods and who uses
tricks. He pretends to be the "Eichmann hunter," even though everyone
knows that this was the work of a secret service, and that Wiesenthal
only takes credit for that.

'Commercializing' the Holocaust
The Los Angeles Wiesenthal Center pays the Vienna "Nazi Hunter"
$75,000 a year for the use of his name, the director of Israel's Yad
Vashem Holocaust center said in 1988.

Both the Center and Wiesenthal "commercialize" and "trivialize" the
Holocaust, the director added.

Wiesenthal "threw out" the figure of "11 million who were murdered in
the Holocaust -- six million Jews and five million non-Jews," said the
Yad Vashem official. When asked why he gave these figures, Wiesenthal
replied: "The gentiles will not pay attention if we do not mention
their victims, too." Wiesenthal "chose 'five million (gentiles)'
because he wanted a 'diplomatic' number, one that told of a large
number of gentile victims but in no way was larger than that of Jews
..." [54]

"What Wiesenthal and the Los Angeles Center that bears his name do is
to trivialize the Holocaust," commented The Jewish Press, a weekly
that claims to be the largest-circulation English-language Jewish
community paper in America.

In recent years Wiesenthal has been concerned about the growing impact
of Holocaust revisionism. In "A Message from Simon Wiesenthal"
published by the Center that bears his name, he said: "Today, when I
see the rise of antisemitism here in Europe ... the popularity of Le
Pen, of David Duke, of the Holocaust revisionists, then I am convinced
more than ever about the need for our new [Wiesenthal Center] Beit
Hashoah-Museum of Tolerance" in Los Angeles. [55]

Wiesenthal is often asked why he does not forgive those who persecuted
Jews half a century ago. His stock answer is that although he has the
right to forgive for himself, he does not have the right to forgive on
behalf of others. [56] On the basis of this sophistical logic, though,
neither does he have the right to accuse and track down anyone in the
name of others. Wiesenthal has never confined his "hunt" to those who
victimized him personally.

'Driven by Hatred'
It is difficult to say just what drives this remarkable man. Is it a
craving for fame and praise? Or is he trying to live down a shameful
episode from his past?

Wiesenthal clearly enjoys the praise he receives. "He is a man of
considerable ego, proud of testimonials and honorary degrees," the Los
Angeles Times has reported. [57] Bruno Kreisky has given a simpler
explanation. He said that Wiesenthal is "driven by hatred." [58]

In light of his well-documented record of deceit, lies and
incompetence, the extravagant praise heaped upon this contemptible man
is a sorry reflection of the venal corruptibility and unprincipled
self-deception of our age.

Notes
Quoted in: M. Weber, "'Nazi Hunter' Caught Lying," The Spotlight
(Washington, DC), Oct. 26, 1981, p. 9.
Interrogation of S. Wiesenthal on May 27 and 28, 1948, conducted by
Curt Ponger of the Interrogation Branch of the Evidence Division of
the Office (U.S.) Chief of Counsel for War Crimes. Interrogation No.
2820. On file at the National Archives (Washington, DC), "Records of
the U.S. Nürnberg War Crimes Trials Interrogations, 1946-49," Record
Group 238, microfilm M-1019, roll 79, frames 460-469 and 470-476. Also
cited in: "New Documents Raise New Doubts About Simon Wiesenthal's War
Years," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1988-89 (Vol. 8, No.
4), pp. 489-503.
PCIRO (International Refugee Organization, Austria) "Application for
Assistance" filled out and signed by Wiesenthal. Dated Jan. 16,1949.
(This was a trial exhibit in the Walus court case. Photocopy in
author's possession.)
Simon Wiesenthal, The Murderers Among Us: The Simon Wiesenthal
Memoirs. Edited by Joseph Wechsberg. (New York: McGraw Hill, 1967)
Interrogation of S. Wiesenthal, May 27, 1948, pp. 1-2.
The Murderers Among Us, p. 27.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 29-35. This account is not inconsistent
with his 1948 and 1949 statements; See also: Simon Wiesenthal, Justice
Not Vengeance (New York: Grove Weidenfeld: 1989), pp. 7-9.
Interrogation of May 27, 1948, p. 2. In a signed 1945 statement,
Wiesenthal wrote:
"... I escaped on October 18, 1943, from the Lemberg [Lvov] hard labor
camp where I was kept as a prisoner during my two years of labor at
the railroad works... and went into hiding until joining Jewish
partisans on November 21, 1943, who operated there. It was while
fighting in the partisan ranks against the Nazis that we managed to
collect and bury for safekeeping considerable amount of evidence...
When the partisans were dispersed by the Germans I fled to Lemberg on
February 10, 1944, and again went into hiding. On June 13, 1944, I was
found during a house to house search and was immediately sent to the
famous Lacki camp, near that city ..." Source: "Curriculum Vitae of
Ing. Wiesenthal, Szymon." SHAEF, Subject: War Crimes, July 6, 1945.
Records of USAEUR, War Crimes Branch, National Archives (Suitland,
Maryland), Records Group 338, Box 534, Folder 000-50-59. Wiesenthal's
alleged partisans activities are also recounted in Alan Levy, The
Wiesenthal File (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans, 1994), pp. 50-53.
Interrogation of May 28, 1948, pp. 1-2.
Interrogation of May 28, 1948, p. 5.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 35-37.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 37-38; Interrogation, May 27, 1948, p. 2,
and May 28, 1948, p. 5; A. Levy, The Wiesenthal File (1994), p. 54.
The Murderers Among Us, pp. 39-44; Interrogation, May 27, 1948, pp.
2-3.
Interview with foreign journalists in Vienna, Nov. 10, 1975. Text
published in: "War Wiesenthal ein Gestapo-Kollaborateur?," Profil
(Vienna), No. 47, Nov. 18, 1975, pp. 16, 22-23; Reprinted in: Robert
H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), pp.
215-218, 222-223; Quoted in part in A. Levy, The Wiesenthal File
(1994), p. 349, and in, S. Wiesenthal, Justice Not Vengeance (New
York: 1989), pp. 7, 299. Kreisky was not alone in charging that
Wiesenthal had collaborated with the German Gestapo. Wim Van Leer,
columnist for the English-language daily Jerusalem Post, stated in May
1986 that a high-level police official in Vienna, citing confidential
police records, had told him during the early 1960s that these and
other charges against Wiesenthal were true. Source: J. Bushinsky,
"Nazi hunter sues over charges of links to Gestapo," Chicago
Sun-Times, Jan. 31, 1987.
Simon Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (Linz and Vienna: Ibis-Verlag, 1946).
Facsimile reprint in: Robert H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal:
Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), p. 64.
"Firing Squad," Life magazine, US edition, June 11, 1945, p. 50.
M. Weber and K. Stimely, "The Sleight-of-Hand of Simon Wiesenthal,"
The Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1984 (Vol. 5, No. 1), pp.
120-122; D. National-Zeitung (Munich), May 21, 1993, p. 3.
S. Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (1946). See also facsimile reprint in:
Robert H. Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982),
pp. 42, 46. This "confession" is a somewhat altered version of
Nuremberg document NO-1973; A new edition of Wiesenthal's 1946 book
has been published under the title Denn sie Wussten, was sie tun:
Zeichnungen und Aufzeichnungen aus dem KZ Mauthausen (Vienna: F.
Deuticke, 1995). I am grateful to Robert Faurisson for bringing this
to my attention. He points out in a July 1995 essay that Wiesenthal
has deleted from this new edition both the "death bed confession" of
Ziereis as well as his drawing of the three Mauthausen inmates.
According to the Encyclopaedia Judaica ("Mauthausen,", Vol. 11, p.
1138), a grand total of 206,000 persons were inmates of Mauthausen and
its satellite camps (including Hartheim) at one time or another.
S. Wiesenthal, KZ Mauthausen (1946). Facsimile reprint in: R.
Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation, p. 47.
R. Faurisson, "The Gas Chambers: Truth or Lie?," The Journal of
Historical Review, Winter 1981, pp. 330, 361. See also: Hans
Fritzsche, The Sword in the Scales (London: 1953), p. 185; Gerald
Reitlinger, The Final Solution (London: Sphere, pb., 1971), p. 515; M.
Weber, "The Nuremberg Trials and the Holocaust," The Journal of
Historical Review, Summer 1992 (Vol. 12, No. 2), p. 182.
USA Today, April 21, 1983, p. 9A.
The Murderers Among Us, p. 44.
Evelyn Le Chene, Mauthausen: The History of a Death Camp (London:
1971), pp. 166-168 and 190-191.
"Mauthausen", Encyclopaedia Judaica (New York and Jerusalem: 1971),
vol. 11, p. 1138.
C. Moritz, ed., Current Biography 1975 (New York: H.W. Wilson, 1975),
p. 442; Wiesenthal interrogation of May 27, 1948, p. 3.
Mark Weber, "Jewish Soap," The Journal of Historical Review, Summer
1991 (Vol. 11, No. 2), pp. 217-227; See also: Robert Faurisson, "La
savon juif," Annales d'Histoire Revisionniste (Paris), No. 1,
Printemps 1987, pp. 153-159.
Der Neue Weg (Vienna), No. 17/18, 1946, pp. 4-5. Article entitled
"RIF" by "Ing. Wiesenth." (Simon Wiesenthal).
Der Neue Weg (Vienna), Nr. 19/20, 1946, pp. 14-15. Article entitled
"Seifenfabrik Belsetz" ("Belzec Soap Factory"), by "Ing. S.Wiesenth."
S. Wiesenthal, Sails of Hope (Macmillan, 1973).
Letters by Wiesenthal in Books and Bookmen (London), April 1975, p. 5,
and in Stars and Stripes (European edition), Jan. 24, 1993, p. 14.
Facsimile of Stars and Stripes letter in The Journal of Historical
Review, May-June 1993, p. 10; In 1986 Wiesenthal lied about his 1975
statement. In a letter dated May 12, 1986, to Prof. John George of
Central State University in Edmond, Oklahoma (copy in author's
possession), Wiesenthal wrote: "I have never stated that 'there were
no extermination camps on German soil.' This quote is false, I could
never have said such a thing."
For example, in a letter (dated Sept. 13, 1993), published in The New
York Times, Sept. 29, 1993, Wiesenthal boasted: "I succeeded in
putting a number of Nazis on trial who had perpetrated horrendous
crimes in the Nazi era, including Adolf Eichmann, Franz Stangl, Gustav
Wagner,..."
S. Birnbaum, "Wiesenthal's Claim on Eichmann Disputed by Former Mossad
Head," Jewish Telegraphic Agency Daily News Bulletin (New York), April
4, 1989. (Dispatch dated April 3).
J. Schachter, "Wiesenthal had no role in Eichmann capture," The
Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991. Facsimile reprint in Christian News, May
27, 1991, p. 19. See also: Ruth Sinai, "Wiesenthal's role in
Eichmann's capture disputed," Associated Press, The Orange County
Register, Feb. 25, 1990, p. A 26; L. Lagnado, "How Simon Wiesenthal
Helped a Secret Nazi," Forward (New York), Sept. 24, 1993, pp. 1, 3.
J. Schachter, The Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991 (cited above).
Facsimile in Christian News, May 27, 1991, p. 19.
Arnold Forster, Square One (New York: 1988), pp. 187-189. (Forster was
general counsel of the Anti-Defamation League, a major Zionist
organization.)
J. Goldberg, "Top Spy Says Wiesenthal Lied About His Exploits,"
Forward (New York), Nov. 12, 1993, pp. 1, 4; R. Sinai, "Wiesenthal's
role...," The Orange County Register, Feb. 25, 1990 (cited above).
Michael Arndt, "The Wrong Man," The Chicago Tribune Magazine, Dec. 2,
1984, pp. 15-35, esp. p. 23; Charles Ashman and Robert J. Wagman, The
Nazi Hunters (New York: Pharos Books, 1988), pp. 193-195.
"The Nazi Who Never Was," The Washington Post, May 10, 1981, pp. B5,
B8.
"The Persecution of Frank Walus," Reader (Chicago), Jan. 23, 1981, pp.
19, 30. After Wiesenthal was ultimately proven wrong in a similar case
in Canada, the Toronto Sun newspaper commented in an editorial: "It
seems that material provided by professional Nazi hunter Simon
Wiesenthal is wrong, but repeated anyway [in the media]." (Quoted by
M. Weber in The Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1984, pp.
120-122.)
Gerald L. Posner and John Ware, Mengele: The Complete Story (New York:
Dell, 1987), pp. 220-221; Gerald Astor, The 'Last' Nazi: The Life and
Times of Dr. Joseph Mengele (Toronto: Paperjacks, 1986), p. 202.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele: The Complete Story (cited above), p.
220.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 179-180; G. Astor,
The 'Last' Nazi (cited above), pp. 178-180.
Time magazine, Sept. 26, 1977, pp. 36-38. Cited in: G. Posner and J.
Ware, Mengele (cited above), p. 219.
"Hunting the 'Angel of Death'," Newsweek, May 20, 1985, pp. 36-38. See
also: M. Weber, "Lessons of the Mengele Affair," Journal of Historical
Review, Fall 1985 (Vol. 6, No. 3), p. 382. On Wiesenthal's distortion
of truth in the Mermelstein-IHR case, see: M. Weber, "Declaration,"
Journal of Historical Review, Spring 1982 (Vol. 3, No. 1), pp. 42-43;
M. Weber, "Albert Speer and the 'Holocaust,"' Journal of Historical
Review, Winter 1984 (Vol. 5, Nos. 2-4), p. 439.
Midstream, Dec. 1983, p. 24. Quoted in: G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele
(cited above), p. 219; Los Angeles Times, Nov. 15, 1985, p. 2.
J. Schachter, "Wiesenthal had no role in Eichmann capture," The
Jerusalem Post, May 18, 1991. Facsimile reprint in Christian News, May
27, 1991, p. 19.
Tom Bower in The Times (London), June 14, 1985, p. 14. Quoted in: G.
Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 222-223.
G. Posner and J. Ware, Mengele (cited above), pp. 222-223.
Betrayal, by Eli M. Rosenbaum, with William Hoffer. Published in 1993
by St. Martin's Press (New York). Reviewed by Jacob Heilbrunn in The
New York Times Book Review, Oct. 10, 1993, p. 9.
Quoted in L. Lagnado, "How Simon Wiesenthal...," Forward (New York),
Sept. 24, 1993, p. 3.
The New York Times Book Review, Oct. 10, 1993, p. 9; Forward (New
York), Sept. 24, 1993, p. 3.
"Was hat Wiesenthal zu verbergen?," D. National-Zeitung (Munich), Nov.
11, 1988, p. 4.
David Sinai, "News We Doubt You've Seen," The Jewish Press (Brooklyn,
NY), Dec. 23, 1988. Based on report in the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz,
Dec. 16, 1988.
"A Message from Simon Wiesenthal," Response: The Wiesenthal Center
World Report, Winter 1992, p. 11.
Charles Ashman and Robert J. Wagman, The Nazi Hunters (New York:
Pharos Books, 1988), p. 286; A. Popkin, "Nazi-Hunter Simon Wiesenthal:
'Information is Our Best Defense'," Washington Jewish Week, Oct. 29,
1987, p. 2.
Quoted in: M. Weber, The Spotlight, Oct. 26, 1981, p. 9.
Quoted in D. National-Zeitung (Munich), July 8, 1988, p. 7, and in, R.
Drechsler, Simon Wiesenthal: Dokumentation (Vienna: 1982), p. 199.
#2009
 From The Journal of Historical Review, July-August 1995 (Vol. 15, No.
4), pages 8-16. This is a revised and updated version of an article
that first appeared in the Winter 1989-90 issue of The Journal of
Historical Review.
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studied history at the University of Illinois (Chicago), the
University of Munich, Portland State University and Indiana University
(M.A., 1977). For nine years he served as editor of the IHR's Journal
of Historical Review.
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Frank Arthur, alias Grosvomit,  is just another common thief. 
Some are pickpockets.
Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. 
This human turd steals names.

Here are some of his names-
Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,KenOyVeigh
Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
All from Frank Arthur alias Edmond Grosvomit the fraud



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From: Frank Arthur 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.europe,soc.culture.swiss,pl.regionalne.warszawa
Subject: Wahr-Das Spiel mit Auschwitz Opferzahlen-Wahrheit!!
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:34:26 -0600

McVay is right in reposting this interesting article.
Now that more and more evidence is being revealed about 
ZYD  COLLABORATION  WITH  NAZIS, such as the additional 
51 cases, besides the notorious KASTNER case, 
one MUST question the HOLOHOAX!!

Even the nototious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a 
Nazi GESTAPO  COLLABORATOR!!

The filthy ZYDS manufactured figures, just to steal money from countries!!


On 18 Oct 2004 06:58:42 -0000, Ken McVay  wrote:

>NOTE:  Do not print this out if you reside in  Austria;
>Belgium; France; Germany; Israel; Spain or Switzerland.

>WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
>Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,
>imprisoned or both for discussing the topics set
>forth in this article.

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, now finally dying as a
>diseased spreader of AIDS,wants all to know
>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.


>Here is the latest.......

>Oktober 1998

>Subject.: HOLO-SCHWINDEL OHNE ENDE - HOLO-OBSKURANTEN

>HOLOCAUST SCHWINDEL-ZAHLEN AKTUALISIERT
>EIN PANOPTIKUM DEUTSCHER & OESTERREICHISCHER POLITIKER

>http://www.ostara.org/autor
>http://www.nationaljournal.org

>Wer in diesen beiden, oben genannten Laendern, auch
>Bananenrepubliken genannt, naturgeschichtlich  erwiesene
>und historisch belegbare und beweisbare Fakten ueber den
>Holocaust- und Gaskammer-Schwindel veroeffentlicht, laeuft
>Gefahr wie tausende andere auch, psychiatrierte oder/und
>auf Jahre hinter Gitter zu wandern. Im Vorkriegs-Deutschland,
>zu Beginn Hitlers Machtergreifung gab es lndesweit nur rund
>30.000 kriminelle Gefangene. Null politische.

>Im "freiesten" Deutschland aller Zeiten unter Hennoch Kohn
>explodiert die "normale" Kriminalitaet, Mord und Totschlag,
>Drogen und Drogentote und es befinden sich rund 9000
>poltische Haeftlinge hinter Gitter. Tendenz:  Alles
>rapide steigend bis die Laender voellig kaputt sind.

>Welcher freche Schwindel und Luegen mit dem Holocaust getrieben
>wird, moegen die folgenden Zahlen aus oeffentlichen Quellen
>verdeutlichen.
>Die duemmste Aussage kommt jedoch von der Deutschen Bundestags
>Praesidentin Rita Suessmut, eine extrem dumme und geistig
>zurueckgebliebene Dumpfbacke,  die die Holocaustzahlen sogar
>heute noch auf 11 Millionen (!!) hinauslizitiert.


>Datum		Wo veroeffentlichet				      Zahlen
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------

>31.12.1945	Franzoesische Ermittlungsstelle			8,0 Mill
>		fuer Nazi-Kriegsverbrechen

>20.04.1978	Le Monde (franzoesische Tageszeitung)		5 Mill

>23.01.1995	Die Welt					5 Mill

>20.04.1989	Eugen Kogon, Der SS-Staat (Seite 176)		4,5 Mill

>31.12.1952	Der Neue Herder (Lexikon, 7. Auflage)		4,5 Mill

>01.10.1946	IMT-Dokument 008-USSR
>		(Alliertes Militaergericht N?rnberg)       	              4,0 Mill

>02.05.1997	USA-Today (groesste Tageszeitung der USA)	 4,0 Mill

>24.11.1989  Oberstaatsanwalt Majorowsky
>		(Anklage 12 Js 1037/89)     			 4,0 Mill

>26.07.1990	Allgem. Juedische Wochenzeitung (Bonn)		4,0 Mill

>08.10.1993  ZDF-Nachrichten					4,0 Mill

>25.01.1995	Wetzlarer Neue Zeitung       			4.0 Mill

>01.10.1946  IMT-Dokument 3868-PS
>		(Alliiertes Militaergericht Nuernberg)		3,0 Mill

>01.01.1995	DAMALS (amtliches Bonner Geschichtsmagazin)	3,0 Mill

>18.07.1990	The Peninsula Times
>		(Tageszeitung, S.Francisco, USA)    		2,0 Mill

>25.07.1990  Hamburger Abendblatt				2,0 Mill

>27.01.1995  Die Welt (Kanzler Kohls "Millonen-Luege")                   2,0 Mill

>02.05.1997	USA-Today (gruesste Tageszeitung der USA)      	1,5 Mill

>11.06.1992 	Allgem. Juedische Wochenzeitung (Bonn)       	1,5 Mill

>08.10.1993	ZDF (berichtigendes Schreiben zur Nachricht
>		von "4 Millionen")				 1,5 Mill

>23.01.1995	Die Welt					 1,5 Mill

>01.09.1989	Le Monde (franzoesische Tageszeitung)		 1.43Mill

>02.02.1995  BUNTE Illustrierte       			               1,4 Mill

>22.01.1995	Welt am Sonntag			               1,2 Mill

>27.01.1995	Die Welt       					  1,1 Mill

>27.01.1995	IfZ (Institut fuer Zeitgeschichte, Muenchen)	  1,0 Mill

>31.12.1989	Pressac, Auschwitz, Technique ...
>		(im Auftrag der Klarsfeldstiftung) 		               0,928 Mill

>27.09.1993	Die Welt				 	   800.000

>22.01.1995  Welt am Sonntag					   750.000

>01.05.1994  Focus						    700.000

>23.01.1995	Die Welt 					    700.000

>31.12.1994	Pressac, Die Krematorien ...
>		(Im Auftrag der Klarsfeldstiftung)		                 470.000

>08.01.1948	Welt im Film
>		(britische Wochenschau-Reportage Nr. 137)  	    300.000

>06.01.1990  Frankfurter Rundschau       			                   74.000

>31.05.1994	Hoffmann, Stalins Vernichtungskrieg, Seite 302	      74.000

>17.08.1994	Internat. Suchdienst Arolsen (Sach Nr.10824)	      66.206


>Aus dem Werk "Grundlagen zur Zeitgeschichte" entnehmen wir weiters,
>dass die beurkundete Gesamtanzahl aller Sterbefaelle in ALLEN
>deutschen KZ  bei 289.597 lagen. Kann man davon ausgehen, dass
>davon rund 150.000 bis max. 200.000 Juden betroffen waren?
>Auch die in Moskauer Archiven gefundenen Totenbuecher registrierten
>fuer Auschwitz nicht mehr als 70.000 Sterbefaelle.

>Hoechst wichtig: Auch der Vatikan, eine  Hochburg der Freimaurerei
>und damit unter juedischer Kontrolle, bzw. der  Papst selbst
>(juedische Abstammung, seine Mutter hiess Katz), denen man wegen
>ihrem Schweigen zum Holocaust und Judenvernichtung (unter Pius XII)
>immer heftiger attackiert, wollte diese Zahlen nicht kommentieren
>sondern der Papst verbeitet nach wie vor die Millionen-Luege
>der Juden.

>Waehrend des Krieges betrieb der amerikanische Geheimdienst OSS
>im Vatikan sogar eine Spionage-Zentrale,  wo auch alle Nachrichten
>aus den KZs zusammenliefen.   Es gibt zum Leidwesen der Zionisten
>KEIN einziges Dokument das den Holocaust und die chronischen Luegen und
>Utopien der Juden bestaetigen wuerde. Moeglicherweise arbeitet man
>aber jetzt schon emsig an einer Faelschung eines Dokumentes das man
>wie "zufaellig" in den Keller-Archiven des Vatikans gefunden hat.

>Wolfgang Froehlich, den man in einem neuen Machwerk (Das Netz des
>Hasses) des linken  Verbrecher- und Bombenbastler-Vereines DOEW unter
>Wolfgang Neugebauer als wuesten "Antisemiten" bezeichnete, hat zum Thema
>Holocaust ebenfalls einiges Datenmaterial und Fakten gesammelt die
>wir hiermit mit groesster Genugtuung und  Befriedigung praesentieren.
>Wir wollen hoffen, dass dieser Text in moeglichst vielen Schulen
>Oesterreichs und Deutschlands gelesen, studiert und verteilt wird.

>Dabei freuen wir uns ganz besonders, die publizierten Luegen dieser
>staatlich subventionierten linken Ganoven-Mafia in ihrem
>Sprachrohr, das rosa freimaurerische Schmutz- und Schundblatt
>STANDARD zu korrigieren. So schreibt Hubertus Czernin am 1. Nov:

>"... bei rund 108.000 Internet-Anschluessen im Land macht der Zugriff
>auf die Ostara-Seite nur wenige Promille aus. Sie irren Czernin:
>Dank Ihrer Schmutzkuebel-Werbung im Standard wurden in den letzten
>zwei Wochen mehr 22.000 Zugriffe registriert wobei an Holocaust
>voellig uninteressierte Personen sich rund 200 MB an Daten runtergeholt
>haben.  Wir danken den Schreiberling Czernin und Wolfgang Neugebauer
>auf diese Weise mit dem grossen symbolischen Stalin-Orden.
>Und wie uns der anonyme Betreiber der Webseite freundlichst
>und rechtsverbindlich mitteilte, betraegt der woechentliche
>Zugriff rund 2500, wobei in nur neun Monaten mehr als
>103.000 Zugriffe registriert wurden. Eine sehr schmerzliche Statistik
>fuer den linken Bodensatz und dem stalinistischen Abschaum Oesterreichs.

>Die Kernfrage ist, wohin sind Millionen europaeische Juden
>verschwunden? Falls sie ueberhaupt "verschwunden" sind.
>Auch der Brockhaus gibt uns einige Antworten auf diese Frage.
>Aus der folgenden Liste, die auch Wolfgang Frohlich publizierte
>und an hunderte Richter und Staatsanwaelte schickte, entnehmen wir:

>Die juedischen Wanderbewegungen im 20. Jahrhundert (aus: Das Recht
>auf Wahrheit von Herbert Schweiger).  Dazu einige wichtige Basiszahlen:

>Aus dem Schweizer "ENCYCLOPEDIA LEXIKON" entnehmen wir z.B.
>dass es in ganz Europa vor Hitler 9,8 Millionen Juden gab.
>Nach Hitler waren es noch 4,2 Millionen.
>Halten wir fest, es fehlen also 5.6 Millionen.

>Zu Beginn des zweiten Weltkrieges und im deutschen Einflussgebiet
>gab es in Europa max. 3.3 Millionen Juden auf die Hitler "Zugriff"
>hatte.
>Quelle: American Jewish Yearbook, Nr. 43.  Walter Sanning nennt in
>seinem
>Buch The Dissolution of Eastern Jewry, 2. Auflage, 1985 die Zahl von
>2.9 Millionen. Die Baseler Nachrichten vom 13.6.1946 behaupten, dass es
>hoechstens 3 Millionen gewesen sind.

>Juedische Bevoelkerung	1930	1938	   1968	   Gesamt  Zuwachs 1930-1968
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Israel		                 285.000   410.000   3,100.000	    2,815.000
>USA	                              4,4 Mill    4,7 Mill      6.200.000	     1,738.400
>Suedamerika                     306.000   373.600      762.700          456.000
>Kanada		    140.000   160.000      280.000	         140.000
>Frankreich	                 225.000   270.000      535.000	         310.000
>England		    300.000   340.000      410.000          110.000
>Australien	                   25.000     27.000	 74.000	          50.000
>Suedafrika	                   60.000   100.000	114.000	          54.000

>SUMME		5,783.000   6,360.000     11.456.000	    + 5,7 Mill.

>Im Klartext:  Das europaeische Judentum "verlor" keine 6 Millionen durch
>den Holocaust, sondern hauptsaechlich durch Migration und Auswanderung.
>Rund 1,5 Millionen wanderten nach dem Krieg aus Europa in die typischen
>Einwanderungslaender aus.

>Trotz dieser enormen Diskrepanzen  haben bis zum 1. Juli 1980 mehr als
>5 Millionen "Holocaust-Ueberlebende" Antraege auf Wiedergutmachung
>gestellt und 4,346.608 wurden auch bewilligt. Wie ist dieser
>rein rechnerische Schwachsinn moeglich?

>Die folgenden Zahlen beweisen in noch deutlicheren Form welcher
>Schwindel
>mit dem Holocaust und "Wiedergutmachungen" getrieben wird.
>Die Zahlen der juedischen Weltbevoelkerung stammen ausschliesslich
>aus juedischen Quellen.

>Vor dem 2. Weltkieg:

>The National Council of Churches, USA 1930		             15,0 Mill
>Jewish Encyclopedia, USA 1933				15,6 Mill
>World Almanach (Jewish Committee 1939)			15,6 Mill

>NACH DEM 2. WELTKRIEG:

>World Almanach (American Jewish Committee, USA)
>1945							            15,19 Mill
>1946							            15,75 Mill
>1947							            15,69 Mill
>1948							            15,50 Mill
>New York Times, div. Meldungen, 1948	                         15,7 bis 18,60 Mill
>World Almanach, 1949					            15,50 Mill
>World Almanach, 1950					            11,50 Mill
>National Council of Churches, USA, 1951		            15,31 Mill

>Aus diesen Zahlen ist klar und deutlich ersichtlich, dass der
>Holocaust nicht zwischen 1939 und 1942 stattgefunden hat,
>sondern erst 1950 bzw. 1949 (!)

>Oesterreichische  (und auch Deutsche) Leser dieser Berichte
>werden aber diese Zahlen in Oesterreich  NICHT
>nachvollziehen koennen. Das bolschewistische System dieser beiden
>Laender hat dafuer gesorgt, dass fast alle original Lexiken und
>Geschichtswerke bis 1950 aus allen Bibliotheken des Landes entfernt
>wurden oder/und nicht zugreifbar sind.
>Das Volk soll, nein, muss dumm sterben.

>Seltsamerweise verschwanden in allen Lexiken und Jahrbuechern
>anno 1950 - je nachdem welcher Verlag -  4-6 Millionen Juden spurlos.
>Und entgegen vieler Geruechte, sie emigrierten  auch NICHT auf den Mars
>oder flogen mit UFOs zum Aldebaran.

>Und noch seltsamer ist, dass diese 4 Millionen Juden  ausgerechnet
>zu einem Zeitpunkt  (1950) spurlos verschwanden, nachdem auch der
>damalige deutsche Bundeskanzler und Krypto-Jude Konrad Adenauer
>sein Land verraten hatte und mit Nahum Goldmann neue
>"Wiedergutmachungs-Verhandlungen" fuehrte.  Dann musste man aber
>frech, aus allen Lexiken 4 Millionen Menschen verschwinden lassen.
>Damit die Statistik wieder "stimmt" Oder fand der "Holocaust"
>gar schon 1949 statt, nach Redaktionsschluss des juedischen
>"Welt-Almanachs".

>Egal wie man das Thema Holocaust auch dreht und wendet und die Zahlen
>faelscht, Tatsache ist und bleibt, dass man auf Kosten Millionen
>von unschuldigen Menschen auf viele Generationen hinweg,
>mit Hilfe gekaufter Politiker einen gigantischen Betrug inszenierte.
>Oesterreich zahlte fuer diesen frechen Schwindel bereits die
>gigantische Summe von weit mehr als 300 Milliarden AS
>(rund 25 Milliarden US $)

>Wie hoch und wie lange die ewigen "Wiedergutmachungs-Zahlungen",
>das Abkassieren und Absahnen ohne Ende noch werden wird,
>darueber werden wir - sofern es dann das Internet noch gibt -
>und unsere Enkelkinder mit ohnmaechtigen Zorn berichten koennen.
>Bis dahin finden sich immer wieder rueckgratlose Kreaturen
>und Kanalratten die ihr Land und das Volk fuer wenige Silberlinge
>verraten und verkaufen.  Wie z.B. Viktor Klima, der dumm
>grinsend, auf Grund einer internationalen Raubgold-Konferenz
>in London Ende 1997 bzw. 1998 eindeutig oesterreichisches
>Waehrungsgold in der Hoehe von rund 110 Millionen AS einfach
>an die Juden und Netanyahu verschenkte.


 wrote:

HENRY FORD (The Dearborn Independent, 12-19 February 1921): Jews have
always controlled the business. . . The motion picture influence of
the United States and Canada . . . is exclusively under the control,
moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public mind.

At one time, anti-Semites were considered to be people who did not like Jews.
Now, anti-Semites are people whom the Jews don't like.  Jews use the term as a
weapon to smear people who for one reason or another they don't like. They use
it to keep politicians in line who might otherwise stray from the Jewish
agenda and they  use it to label revisionists as 'holocaust deniers' I have
been "branded by the Jews" and am proud to be in the esteemed company of the
following:

T.S. Eliot; Norman Finkelstein; Father Coughlin; 
John Wayne;  Joseph P. Kennedy; Charles Lindburgh;
George Lincoln Rockwell; Marlon Brando; Robert Mitchum; 
Richard Nixon; Henry Ford Sr.; Walt Disney; David Irving;
H.L. Mencken; Kurt Waldheim; Napoleon; Bismarck; Claudis;
Voltaire; George Ball; Israel Shahak; Joe Sobran; Gerald L.K. Smith;
Karl Marx; William Dudley Pelley; Cicero; Heinriche Heine;
Oswald Mosley; Rowland Evans; Robert Novak; Anthony Lewis; Charles Dickens;
Patrick Buchanan; Benjamin Friedman; Martin Luther; Mahomet;
Bruno Bauer;  Elizabeth Dilling; Senator Burton Wheeler


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant



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JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
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Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:32:23 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Frank Arthur defrauds German,Swiss & other Europeans
>by posting to their newsgroups pretending to be Frank Arthur
>A fraud pretending to be Frank Arthur
>Legit Frank Arthur only posts via Bellsouth Internet Group
>Frank Arthur, and all the aliases is just another common thief. Some are pickpockets.
>Some steal cars. Some steal groceries. This human turd steals names.

>Here are some of his names-
>Arthur Franks,Ernst Zundholz,Yitzak Goldstein,
>Frank Arthur,Ariadne,Boris,Bruno,DesiCohen,Flavia13,
>Firestone@hemisphere,GeorgesFirestein,HansMueller,
>GayMcvay,PanPiotr,RiainBartoski,VictorArcurius,
>KenMcvaySOBC Ad infinitum.
>All from Frank Arthur the fraud

>I am not only a liar, claiming to not post to newsgroups, but I am also a lunatic, 
>since I do not remember all my aliases and lies.




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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:32:05 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>Why do Jews also defraud everyone?
>The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.
>"Grosvomit of Canada" is one of my aliases, and I often use many fraudulent names.
>Garbage like me causes distrust among readers here.

>I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup. The 
>pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.

>Since I am a fag, and a liar, of course I DO post to this newsgroups, as well as many others!!


>The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
>tab:
>Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

>Since I am insane, I Frank Arthur know that the gray tab does not show in newsgroups.



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ZYD Ritual Murder of Children/Ritual Morder der Kinder - Documented

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 21:44:15 -0400, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "Whip"
 wrote:

"JEWISH RITUAL MURDERS" IN RUSSIA
FIVE CHILDREN FOUND DEAD IN PIT; 
BLOOD DRAINED FROM BODIES!
CORPSES WERE SET ON FIRE TO HIDE BLOOD DRAINING

On April 16, 2005, just a week before the beginning the the Jewish Passover 
on April 23, five children, Muslim and Christian, "disappeared" in the 
Russian Siberian city of Krasnoyarsk.  Their burnt bodies have been found in 
a sewage pit.

A popular Russian daily, Komsomolskaya Pravda, writes today that many 
Russians in the city are convinced that the children were ritually murdered 
by local Jews who later burnt their bodies to conceal the crime and prevent 
experts to find in the bodies the lack of blood which is used by Hasidic 
Jews for ritual purposes.

Few people in the city believe that the Jewish murderers ever come to trial 
and that the murders would be properly clarified by police investigaters in 
present-day new democratic Russia.

Vladimir Salamatov, the lawyer representing the interests of the parents of 
the murdered children told the paper that 5 independent experts confirmed 
the lack of hemoglobine (red substance in human blood) in all burnt bodies.

"I am sure that it was a ritual murder with exsanguination", he said.

Evgeny Kazantsev, the Head of Untraditional Religious Groups Monitoring 
Center, agrees that it was a ritual murder.

A Moscow independent researcher and journalist, Mikhail Nazarov, stresses 
that there is a large Jewish community in Krasnoyarsk and that the 
authorities do their best to conceal this ritual murder committed by the 
Jews. A witness reported seeing the bodies of the children thrown intact in 
the pit as proscribed by the Jewish ritual and then somebody burnt then to 
conceal ritual wounds in specific places of the bodies made for the 
exsanguination, Mr nazarov said.

The researcher reminded of a well-known case of the ritual murder of a 
10-year-old Christian child, Andyusha Yushchinsky in Kiev in 1913. A local 
Jewish community activist, Beilis, was arrested and accused of the murder 
and later released by a court because of insufficient evidence, with a minor 
overweight among the jury.

"The murder of Andryusha Yushchinsky also took place few day before the 
Jewish Passover, his body was also exsanguinated and thrown off without 
burial", Mr Nazarov said.

"And Beilis belonged to the same Lubavichi Hasidic branch of Judaism as the 
present Chief Rabbi of Russia Berl Lazar who ... copies American gangstes 
practises (he was born in the US) and acts with support of Jewish oligarchs, 
the Kransnoyarsk Chief Rabbi Wagner and the Jewish Governor of the 
Krasnoyarsk Territory Khloponin", Mr. Nazarov added in his interview with 
the Moscow paper.

http://krsk.kp.ru/2006/09/20/doc137434/ 


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

Reply-To: Frank Arthur , or to
Ariadne@mac.hush.com, or Ariadne.mac@gmail.com
Feel free to subscribe us to maillists for sex, homosexuals and the like.




On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:06:27 -0600, Frank Arthur  wrote:

>A well researched and documented article,deserving re-posting worldwide.

>On 4 Apr 2007 21:01:42 -0700, in alt.politics.nationalism.white "dsfkfnir
>lfdsjsafd"  wrote:

>BIBLIOGRAPHY OF WORKS SUPPORTING
>THE BLOOD ACCUSATION.

>Acta Sanctorum. This is the work of the Bollandists, who were a band
>of Jesuits devoting themselves to historical record between 1643 and
>1883. The volumes in which they recorded various ritual murders by
>Jews are mainly those written in the seventeenth century.

> Histoire Universelle de l'Englise Catholique, by Abbe Rohrbacher
>(Gaume et Freres, 1845).

> Lives of the Saints, by Alban Butler.

> Dizionario Ecclesiastico, Vol. 64-66 (Semenario Peo-scire, Venice,
>1853-4).

> Annales Ecclesiastici, ab 1198, p. 568, by O. Raynaldus, 1753. These
>two deal with the case of St. Simon of Trent.

> Catholic Bulletin, August, 1916 (published at Dublin, M. H. Gill &
>Sons).

> Cahiers Romains, Catholic publication in Rome, 29th November, 1913.

> Acts and Monuments of the Church, by John Foxe, 1563.

> A Short Demurrer to the Jewes long discontinued Remitter into
>England, by William Prynne, 1656.

> Les Juifs devant l'Eglise et l' Histoire, by Rev. Father Constant.

> Meine Antworten an die Rabbiner: Funf Briefe uber den Talmudismus und
>das Blut-Ritual der Juden, by August Rohling (1883), Canon of Prague
>Cathedral.

> La France Juive, by Edouard Drumont. Obtainable from M. Petit, 12 rue
>Laugier, Paris 17. 70 francs.

> Le Juif, le Judaisme et la Judaisation des Peuples Chretiens, by
>Gougenot des Mousseaux, Chevalier, 1886. The whole of Chapter VI is
>devoted to Ritual Murders.

> Le Mystère du Sang chez les Juifs de tous les Temps, by Henri
>Desportes, 1889 (Savine).

> Le Crime Rituel chez les Juifs, by A. Monniot, 1914. Obtainable from
>M. Petit, 12 rue Laugier, Paris 17. 10 francs. An excellent general
>guide to the whole subject, with preface by Edouard Drumont. It was
>Drumont who exposed the Jewish Panama scandals.

> Der Ritual Mord bei den Juden, by Eugen Brandt.

> Ritual Morde, by Ottokar Stauf von der March (Hammer Verlag).

> Judische Moral und Blut Mysterium, by A. Fern, 1927.

> Der Ritual Mord, by G. Utikal. This book is recommended by the Reich
>Office for the Promotion of German Literature as "a truly national
>representation of Jewish Ritual Murder."

> Das Blut in Judischen Schriftum, by Dr. Bischoff, 1929.

> Der Stürmer, Special Ritual Murder Issue, dated May, 1934, Nuremburg.
>The reader should not be prejudiced by the Jewish campaign of hate
>against the editor of Der Stürmer. The Ritual Murder issue is a
>valuable historical record.

> The Jew, the Gypsy, and El Islam, by Sir Richard Burton, edited by W.
>H. Wilkins (Hutchinson, 1898).

> Isabella of Spain, by W. T. Walsh, 1931 (Sheed & Ward), pp. 125,
>439-468, and 628.
>References to other authorities in particular cases of Ritual Murder
>are made in the text when describing these cases.

>To the above list should be added a recent work intended to clear the
>Jews from the Blood Accusation, but which, at least in my own opinion,
>appears to support it: -- The Ritual Murder Libel and the Jews, by C.
>Roth (Woburn Press, 1935)



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Glad to see that you admit to being both a fag, and a fraud!!


On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:12:51 -0400, "Frank Arthur"  wrote:

>The poster using Frank Arthur is a fraud.
>"Grosvomit of Canada"  uses many fraudulent names.
>Garbage like him causes distrust among readers here.
There is no such poster as you claim!

>I am the legitimate Frank Arthur and I did not post to this newsgroup. The 
>pervert who used my name is a person of no honor.

You are also a LIAR, since you have been posting regularly to this and other
newsgroups.


>The way to know if I am the legitimate Frank Arthur it will show on the gray 
>tab:
>Organization: BellSouth Internet Group

You are certifiably insane, since there is no gray tab in newsgroups, as you
have been advised frequently before.


>"Frank Arthur"  wrote in message 
>news:l6c13391g79l2c63vep7qg8m87mq7knda6@4ax.com...
>> Facts About Fags




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JEWISH COMMISSARS KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN WERE KILLED IN ALL THE WARS COMBINED
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On 29 Mar 2007 15:24:52 -0700, in soc.culture.canada "Venceremos"
 wrote:

The worlds largest Holocaust occured when Jewish dominated CHEKA,
NKVD, KGB etc. slaughtered close to 100 million Russians, and almost
wiped out several racial groups, such as Tatars, Chechens, Uigurs and
Tajiks.

Jewish Commissars mercilessly killed people with a bullet in the back
of the head, or worked them to death in the slave camps.

The details on the greatest Holocaust that befell world are readily
available in Aleksndr Solzhenitsyn's "200 YEARS TOGETHER" so far
available in many languages only in Russia, on the behest of the
Zionists of the world.

(The family of yours truly was slaughtered by the Jews at Posad
Pokrovskoe with a bullet in the back of the head, by the Jewish Commissars)



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Unfortunately, too true.
Always, the ZYDS do their best to foment wars, and other miseries, everywhere
in the world, just to increase their power and the Jew World Order.

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 09:19:19 -0700, FredBurg 
wrote:

>Those who have failed to learn from the past 2000 years of history, will be
>doomed to repeat history.

>With now an extra 51 well documented proven cases of ZHID  COLLABORATION
>WITH NAZIS, besides notorious KASTNER case,  one MUST question the
>HOLOHOAX figures!!

>Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to be a nazi GESTAPO
>COLLABORATOR!!

>On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:11:30 -0700, Ken Levi  wrote:

>>For the past 2000 years, the world has suffered because of the cursed
>>Christkiller ZHIDS.

>>Not just the Kollaboraci of the ZHIDS with the nazis.


>>On 27 Sep 2004 16:03:09 -0000, PhilMathews 
>>wrote:

>>>Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag in Canada,
>>>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>>>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>>>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>>>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
>>>about all his fellow criminals and perverts.

>>>Here is a photo of Ken McVay, director of WWW.NIZKOR.ORG--
>>>Does he not have the uncouth look as to fit the profile of a
>>>person who would say in general regarding child porn:
>>>"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
>>>proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and
>>>have yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn."
>>>I've seen photos of naked children, ... and fail to see the
>>>harm, or any great moral danger to our society)."?
>>>http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg
>>>     Would any of you want to leave this person, Ken McVay,
>>>                alone with your children?


>>>From: Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (JohannSebastianBott)
>>>Subject: Re:ZHID ORDNUNGSPOLIZEI = ZYDOWSKY KOLABORANCI!!!
>>>Newsgroups: pl.regionalne.krakow,pl.regionalne.wroclaw
>>>On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:33:28 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>>Another significant article that merits discussion!!!

>>On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
>> wrote:
>
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish,
>> > Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate Professor of Sociology
>> > and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of
>> > Germans during occupation of Poland.  The only
>> > reason for this question at this time seems to be
>> > his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provocatively,
>> > Dr. Ilicki asks:
>> > 1) who were the members of the
>> > police, volunteers or draftees?,
>> > 2) what was their social status?
>> > 3) what happened to them after the war?
>> > Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not
>> > know the answers.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested
>> > in Pinsk the hometown of his parents and allegedly
>> > the site of the burial of his grandparents and over
>> > 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitte
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with
>> > Yad Vashem.  However, young (about 40 years old)
>> > Julian pretends disintrest, because he is afraid that
>> > exhumations might start at the alleged burial site
>> > and will find no skeletons as same happened last
>> > year at nearby Mariompole, presently in Lithuania.
>
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police
>> > during German occupation was  dramatically reduced
>> > in numbers and pre-war policemen were forced to
>> > serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,and when armed never
>> > given more than five bullets for their long rifles.
>> > Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write
>> > a report for what target each bullet was used
>> > and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>
>>>>>>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in
>> > the Third Reich, in which service was completely
>> > voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The
>> > social background of these Jewish collaborators
>> > according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>> > with post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree,
>> > 20% with elementary education.  These are data
>> > from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the
>> > requirement was that EACH Jewish policeman
>> > has at least matura (two years of college)
>> > see page 489 of his book.  In practice, the
>> > Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German
>> > occupation immediately were fired from
>> > their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because
>> > the schools were closed.
>
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep
>> your life a little longer or die now!
>
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted.
>> Under Stalin they ran to enlist hoping to avoid being
>> killed in the next "relocation"!
>
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground,
>> > unemployed Jewish intelligentia clamored for the police work.

>> > Some of it was really gruesome as you remember
>> > from our previous description of the Feb. 1942
>> > execution on Rybna Street market place in Lodz.
>> > German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown
>> > endlessly in Wiesenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands
>> > of Jews standing and watching behind three
>> > uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered
>> > pistols facing Jewish crowd and about to be hanged
>> > women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski

>> Herman


>First,let us kill all the lawyers! - W.Shakespeare
>First, we get rid of all the politicians! - Mao Tse Dung
>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled-as fertiliser!! Me

>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth
>is a revolutionary act."
>(George Orwell)

>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>"All truth passes through three stages.
>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed,
>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>(Arthur Schopenhauer)

>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely,
>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak
>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if
>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant

>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an
>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer
>and impossible to ignore."
>--John Bryant


>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>JEW-WATCH:
>http://www.jewwatch.com

>Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
>NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
>people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

>Or, other useful websites include:
>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>IHR - www.ihr.org
>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press,
>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.



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And never forget the ZYD prominente Kollaborateurs such as KASTNER, 
RUMKOWSKI and WIESENTHAL!!


On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 17:45:26 -0400, in alt.revisionism Gallows Cheater
 wrote:

http://www.rense.com/general34/ZAND.HTM

Zionism And The Third Reich
By Mark Weber
Institute for Historical Review
2-8-3

Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German
port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel
Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the
ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member.
Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic
combination as a "metaphysical absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one
vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging
collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.
 
Common Aims
 
Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with
the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in
non-Jewish society? During the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National
Socialists shared similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue.
They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities,
and that Jews did not belong in Germany. Jews living in the Reich were
therefore to be regarded not as "Germans of the Jewish faith," but rather
as members of a separate national community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism)
also implied an obligation by Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine,
the "Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere
Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any
other "foreign" country.
 
Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained that
anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely
understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes.
The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize reality and live in
a separate state of their own. "The Jewish question exists wherever Jews
live in noticeable numbers," he wrote in his most influential work, The
Jewish State. "Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving
Jews ... I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex
phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear."
The Jewish question, he maintained, is not social or religious. "It is a
national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international
political issue ..." Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews
constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a
Volk.2 Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered the world a welcome "final solution of
the Jewish question."3
 
Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of Germany (by
far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a detailed
memorandum to the new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and
formally offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question."
The first step, it suggested, had to be a frank recognition of fundamental
national differences: 4
 
Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which
consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of
an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own tradition.
Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist
trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear ...
 
Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is
now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national
character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the
Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense
of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its
existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era
must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective
responsibility ...
 
We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that can,
through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a
decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be
dealt with by most European peoples ...
 
Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere
relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities.
Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we,
too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the
Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we -- having
been brought up in the German language and German culture -- can show an
interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and
internal sympathy ...
 
For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of
even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with
the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem
whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially
the German people ... Boycott propaganda -- such as is currently being
carried on against Germany in many ways -- is in essence un-Zionist,
because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build ...
 
We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue
to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages
result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples.
The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"),
proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a Jewish
problem and desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this
purpose Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether
pro- or anti-Jewish, because, in its view, we are dealing here with a
concrete rather than a sentimental problem, the solution of which all
peoples are interested."5 A young Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz, who later
settled in the United States and became head of the American Jewish
Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that the National
Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the Jews." He
explained: "No subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we
desire a new concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6
 
Active Collaboration
 
On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood,
National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what each group
believed was in its own national interest. As a result, the Hitler
government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine
>from 1933 until 1940-1941, when the Second World War prevented extensive
collaboration.
 
Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews, probably a
majority, continued to regard themselves, often with considerable pride, as
Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about pulling up roots to begin a new
life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews turned
to Zionism during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement
flourished in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist
Federation's bi-weekly Jüdische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist
books were published. "Zionist work was in full swing" in Germany during
those years, the Encyclopaedia Judaica notes. A Zionist convention held in
Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its composition the vigorous party life of
German Zionists."7
 
The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal
June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for
Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage
emigration of Germany's Jews to Palestine. This would require increased
Jewish self-awareness. Jewish schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish
cultural organizations -- in short, everything that would encourage this
new consciousness and self-awareness - should be promoted, the paper
recommended.8
 
SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt
Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist
development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein
wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin
daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading "A Nazi
Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great admiration for the
pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist
self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He
praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the
entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding
article, "pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of
the world: the Jewish question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a
Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the
joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von
Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS
security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more
effectively. 9
 
The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support for
Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: "The time may not be too far
off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who have been
lost to it for more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with
official goodwill, go with them."10 Four months later, a similar article
appeared in the SS paper: 11
 
The recognition of Jewry as a racial community based on blood and not on
religion leads the German government to guarantee without reservation the
racial separateness of this community. The government finds itself in
complete agreement with the great spiritual movement within Jewry, the
so-called Zionism, with its recognition of the solidarity of Jewry around
the world and its rejection of all assimilationist notions. On this basis,
Germany undertakes measures that will surely play a significant role in the
future in the handling of the Jewish problem around the world.
 
A leading German shipping line began direct passenger liner service from
Hamburg to Haifa, Palestine, in October 1933 providing "strictly kosher
food on its ships, under the supervision of the Hamburg rabbinate." 12 With
official backing, Zionists worked tirelessly to "reeducate" Germany's Jews.
As American historian Francis Nicosia put it in his 1985 survey, The Third
Reich and the Palestine Question: "Zionists were encouraged to take their
message to the Jewish community, to collect money, to show films on
Palestine and generally to educate German Jews about Palestine. There was
considerable pressure to teach Jews in Germany to cease identifying
themselves as Germans and to awaken a new Jewish national identity in
them." 13
 
In an interview after the war, the former head of the Zionist Federation of
Germany, Dr. Hans Friedenthal, summed up the situation: "The Gestapo did
everything in those days to promote emigration, particularly to Palestine.
We often received their help when we required anything from other
authorities regarding preparations for emigration." 14
 
At the September 1935 National Socialist Party Congress, the Reichstag
adopted the so-called "Nuremberg laws" that prohibited marriages and sexual
relations between Jews and Germans and, in effect, proclaimed the Jews an
alien minority nationality. A few days later the Zionist Jüdische Rundschau
editorially welcomed the new measures: 15
 
Germany ... is meeting the demands of the World Zionist Congress when it
declares the Jews now living in Germany to be a national minority. Once the
Jews have been stamped a national minority it is again possible to
establish normal relations between the German nation and Jewry. The new
laws give the Jewish minority in Germany its own cultural life, its own
national life. In future it will be able to shape its own schools, its own
theatre, and its own sports associations. In short, it can create its own
future in all aspects of national life ...
 
Germany has given the Jewish minority the opportunity to live for itself,
and is offering state protection for this separate life of the Jewish
minority: Jewry's process of growth into a nation will thereby be
encouraged and a contribution will be made to the establishment of more
tolerable relations between the two nations. Georg Kareski, the head of
both the "Revisionist" Zionist State Organization and the Jewish Cultural
League, and former head of the Berlin Jewish Community, declared in an
interview with the Berlin daily Der Angriff at the end of 1935: 16
 
For many years I have regarded a complete separation of the cultural affairs
of the two peoples [Jews and Germans] as a pre-condition for living
together without conflict... I have long supported such a separation,
provided it is founded on respect for the alien nationality. The Nuremberg
Laws ... seem to me, apart from their legal provisions, to conform entirely
with this desire for a separate life based on mutual respect... This
interruption of the process of dissolution in many Jewish communities,
which had been promoted through mixed marriages, is therefore, from a
Jewish point of view, entirely welcome.
 
Zionist leaders in other countries echoed these views. Stephen S. Wise,
president of the American Jewish Congress and the World Jewish Congress,
told a New York rally in June 1938: "I am not an American citizen of the
Jewish faith, I am a Jew... Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the
Jewish people a race and we are a race." 17 The Interior Ministry's Jewish
affairs specialist, Dr. Bernhard Lösener, expressed support for Zionism in
an article that appeared in a November 1935 issue of the official
Reichsverwaltungsblatt: 18
 
If the Jews already had their own state in which the majority of them were
settled, then the Jewish question could be regarded as completely resolved
today, also for the Jews themselves. The least amount of opposition to the
ideas underlying the Nuremberg Laws have been shown by the Zionists,
because they realize at once that these laws represent the only correct
solution for the Jewish people as well. For each nation must have its own
state as the outward expression of its particular nationhood.
 
In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a
network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany
where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine.
Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag,
Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white
Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel
was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. 19
 
Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist
underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah
official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and
for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the
Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to
plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS.20 Haganah-SS collaboration even
included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in
clashes with Palestinian Arabs. 21 In the aftermath of the November
1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly
helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its
work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. 22
 
Official Reservations
 
German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party officials
were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful Jewish communities
in the United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their"
governments and fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry
remained implacably hostile toward National Socialist Germany, and as long
as the great majority of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to
resettle in the Zionist "promised land," a sovereign Jewish state in
Palestine would not really "solve" the international Jewish question.
Instead, German officials reasoned, it would immeasurably strengthen this
dangerous anti-German campaign. German backing for Zionism was therefore
limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British
control, not a sovereign Jewish state. 23
 
A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June
1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not be able to
absorb all Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional
power base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served
as a base for international Communism.24 Reflecting something of a shift in
official policy, the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937
for Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when
tension and conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply
increasing. 25
 
A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in spite
of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would nevertheless be a
mistake to assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure
in Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the anti-German
agitation of international Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation
of a Palestine Jewish state would help the peaceful development of the
nations of the world."26 "The proclamation of a Jewish state or a
Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an internal memorandum by the
Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would create for Germany a new enemy,
one that would have a deep influence on developments in the Near East."
Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring
special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving
legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry."27 In January
1939, Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise
warned in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation
of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it "would bring an international
increase in power to world Jewry." 28
 
Hitler himself personally reviewed this entire issue in early 1938 and, in
spite of his long-standing skepticism of Zionist ambitions and misgivings
that his policies might contribute to the formation of a Jewish state,
decided to support Jewish migration to Palestine even more vigorously. The
prospect of ridding Germany of its Jews, he concluded, outweighed the
possible dangers. 29
 
Meanwhile, the British government imposed ever more drastic restrictions on
Jewish immigration into Palestine in 1937, 1938 and 1939. In response, the
SS security service concluded a secret alliance with the clandestine
Zionist agency Mossad le-Aliya Bet to smuggle Jews illegally into
Palestine. As a result of this intensive collaboration, several convoys of
ships succeeded in reaching Palestine past British gunboats. Jewish
migration, both legal and illegal, from Germany (including Austria) to
Palestine increased dramatically in 1938 and 1939. Another 10,000 Jews were
scheduled to depart in October 1939, but the outbreak of war in September
brought the effort to an end. All the same, German authorities continued to
promote indirect Jewish emigration to Palestine during 1940 and 1941. 30
Even as late as March 1942, at least one officially authorized
Zionist "kibbutz" training camp for potential emigrants continued to
operate in Hitler's Germany. 31
 
The Transfer Agreement
 
The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the
Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to
migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the
Haavara (Hebrew for "transfer"), was concluded in August 1933 following
talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of
the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization.
32
 
Through this unusual arrangement, each Jew bound for Palestine deposited
money in a special account in Germany. The money was used to purchase
German-made agricultural tools, building materials, pumps, fertilizer, and
so forth, which were exported to Palestine and sold there by the
Jewish-owned Haavara company in Tel-Aviv. Money from the sales was given to
the Jewish emigrant upon his arrival in Palestine in an amount
corresponding to his deposit in Germany. German goods poured into Palestine
through the Haavara, which was supplemented a short time later with a
barter agreement by which Palestine oranges were exchanged for German
timber, automobiles, agricultural machinery, and other goods. The Agreement
thus served the Zionist aim of bringing Jewish settlers and development
capital to Palestine, while simultaneously serving the German goal of
freeing the country of an unwanted alien group.
 
Delegates at the 1933 Zionist Congress in Prague vigorously debated the
merits of the Agreement. Some feared that the pact would undermine the
international Jewish economic boycott against Germany. But Zionist
officials reassured the Congress. Sam Cohen, a key figure behind the
Haavara arrangement, stressed that the Agreement was not economically
advantageous to Germany. Arthur Ruppin, a Zionist Organization emigration
specialist who had helped negotiate the pact, pointed out that "the
Transfer Agreement in no way interfered with the boycott movement, since no
new currency will flow into Germany as a result of the agreement..." 33 The
1935 Zionist Congress, meeting in Switzerland, overwhelmingly endorsed the
pact. In 1936, the Jewish Agency (the Zionist "shadow government" in
Palestine) took over direct control of the Ha'avara, which remained in
effect until the Second World War forced its abandonment.
 
Some German officials opposed the arrangement. Germany's Consul General in
Jerusalem, Hans Döhle, for example, sharply criticized the Agreement on
several occasions during 1937. He pointed out that it cost Germany the
foreign exchange that the products exported to Palestine through the pact
would bring if sold elsewhere. The Haavara monopoly sale of German goods to
Palestine through a Jewish agency naturally angered German businessmen and
Arabs there. Official German support for Zionism could lead to a loss of
German markets throughout the Arab world. The British government also
resented the arrangement.34 A June 1937 German Foreign Office internal
bulletin referred to the "foreign exchange sacrifices" that resulted from
the Haavara. 35
 
A December 1937 internal memorandum by the German Interior Ministry reviewed
the impact of the Transfer Agreement: "There is no doubt that the Haavara
arrangement has contributed most significantly to the very rapid
development of Palestine since 1933. The Agreement provided not only the
largest source of money (from Germany!), but also the most intelligent
group of immigrants, a nd finally it brought to the country the machines
and industrial products essential for development." The main advantage of
the pact, the memo reported, was the emigration of large numbers of Jews to
Palestine, the most desirable target country as far as Germany was
concerned. But the paper also noted the important drawbacks pointed out by
Consul Döhle and others. The Interior Minister, it went on, had concluded
that the disadvantages of the agreement now outweighed the advantages and
that, therefore, it should be terminated. 36
 
Only one man could resolve the controversy. Hitler personally reviewed the
policy in July and September 1937, and again in January 1938, and each time
decided to maintain the Haavara arrangement. The goal of removing Jews from
Germany, he concluded, justified the drawbacks. 37
 
The Reich Economics Ministry helped to organize another transfer company,
the International Trade and Investment Agency, or Intria, through which
Jews in foreign countries could help German Jews emigrate to Palestine.
Almost $900,000 was eventually channeled through the Intria to German Jews
in Palestine.38 Other European countries eager to encourage Jewish
emigration concluded agreements with the Zionists modeled after the
Ha'avara. In 1937 Poland authorized the Halifin (Hebrew for "exchange")
transfer company. By late summer 1939, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary and
Italy had signed similar arrangements. The outbreak of war in September
1939, however, prevented large-scale implementation of these agreements. 39
 
Achievements of Haavara
 
Between 1933 and 1941, some 60,000 German Jews emigrated to Palestine
through the Ha'avara and other German-Zionist arrangements, or about ten
percent of Germany's 1933 Jewish population. (These German Jews made up
about 15 percent of Palestine's 1939 Jewish population.) Some Ha'avara
emigrants transferred considerable personal wealth from Germany to
Palestine. As Jewish historian Edwin Black has noted: "Many of these
people, especially in the late 1930s, were allowed to transfer actual
replicas of their homes and factories -- indeed rough replicas of their
very existence."40
 
The total amount transferred from Germany to Palestine through the Ha'avara
between August 1933 and the end of 1939 was 8.1 million pounds or 139.57
million German marks (then equivalent to more than $40 million). This
amount included 33.9 million German marks ($13.8 million) provided by the
Reichsbank in connection with the Agreement.41
 
Historian Black has estimated that an additional $70 million may have flowed
into Palestine through corollary German commercial agreements and special
international banking transactions. The German funds had a major impact on
a country as underdeveloped as Palestine was in the 1930s, he pointed out.
Several major industrial enterprises were built with the capital from
Germany, including the Mekoroth waterworks and the Lodzia textile firm. The
influx of Ha'avara goods and capital, concluded Black, "produced an
economic explosion in Jewish Palestine" and was "an indispensable factor in
the creation of the State of Israel."42
 
The Ha'avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in
Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli state. A
January 1939 German Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some
misgiving, that "the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through
the Ha'avara agreement] contributed to no small extent to the building of a
Jewish state in Palestine."43
 
Former officials of the Ha'avara company in Palestine confirmed this view in
a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972: "The economic
activity made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara
transfers to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for
the country's development. Many new industries and commercial enterprises
were established in Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are
enormously important even today in the economy of the State of Israel owe
their existence to the Haavara."44
 
Dr. Ludwig Pinner, a Ha'avara company official in Tel Aviv during the 1930s,
later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha'avara
immigrants "decisively contributed" to the economic, social, cultural and
educational development of Palestine's Jewish community.45
 
The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of cooperation
between Hitler's Germany and international Zionism. Through this pact,
Hitler's Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to
support Jewish development in Palestine.
 
Zionists Offer a Military Alliance With Hitler
 
In early January 1941 a small but important Zionist organization submitted a
formal proposal to German diplomats in Beirut for a military-political
alliance with wartime Germany. The offer was made by the radical
underground "Fighters for the Freedom of Israel," better known as the Lehi
or Stern Gang. Its leader, Avraham Stern, had recently broken with the
radical nationalist "National Military Organization" (Irgun Zvai Leumi)
over the group's attitude toward Britain, which had effectively banned
further Jewish settlement of Palestine. Stern regarded Britain as the main
enemy of Zionism.
 
This remarkable Zionist proposal "for the solution of the Jewish question in
Europe and the active participation of the NMO [Lehi] in the war on the
side of Germany" is worth quoting at some length:46
 
In their speeches and statements, the leading statesmen of National
Socialist Germany have often emphasized that a New Order in Europe requires
as a prerequisite a radical solution of the Jewish question by evacuation.
("Jew-f ree Europe")
 
The evacuation of the Jewish masses from Europe is a precondition for
solving the Jewish question. However, the only way this can be totally
achieved is through settlement of these masses in the homeland of the
Jewish people, Palestine, and by the establishment of a Jewish state in its
historical boundaries.
 
The goal of the political activity and the years of struggle by the Israel
Freedom Movement, the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun
Zvai Leumi), is to solve the Jewish problem in this way and thus completely
liberate the Jewish people forever.
 
The NMO, which is very familiar with the good will of the German Reich
government and its officials towards Zionist activities within Germany and
the Zionist emigration program, takes that view that:
 
1. Common interests can exist between a European New Order based on the
German concept and the true national aspirations of the Jewish people as
embodied by the NMO.
 
2. Cooperation is possible between the New Germany and a renewed, folk
ish-national Jewry [Hebr_ertum].
 
3. The establishment of the historical Jewish state on a national and
totalitarian basis, and bound by treaty with the German Reich, would be in
the interest of maintaining and strengthening the future German position of
power in the Near East.
 
On the basis of these considerations, and upon the condition that the German
Reich government recognize the national aspirations of the Israel Freedom
Movement mentioned above, the NMO in Palestine offers to actively take part
in the war on the side of Germany.
 
This offer by the NMO could include military, political and informational
activity within Palestine and, after certain organizational measures,
outside as well. Along with this the Jewish men of Europe would be
militarily trained and organized in military units under the leadership and
command of the NMO. They would take part in combat operations for the
purpose of conquering Palestine, should such a front by formed.
 
The indirect participation of the Israel Freedom Movement in the New Order
of Europe, already in the preparatory stage, combined with a
positive-radical solution of the European Jewish problem on the basis of
the national aspirations of the Jewish people mentioned above, would
greatly strengthen the moral foundation of the New Order in the eyes of all
humanity.
 
The cooperation of the Israel Freedom Movement would also be consistent with
a recent speech by the German Reich Chancellor, in which Hitler stressed
that he would utilize any combination and coalition in order to isolate and
defeat England.
 
There is no record of any German response. Acceptance was very unlikely
anyway because by this time German policy was decisively pro-Arab.47
Remarkably, Stern's group sought to conclude a pact with the Third Reich at
a time when stories that Hitler was bent on exterminating Jews were already
in wide circulation. Stern apparently either did not believe the stories or
he was willing to collaborate with the mortal enemy of his people to help
bring about a Jewish state. 48
 
An important Lehi member at the time the group made this offer was Yitzhak
Shamir, who later served as Israel's Foreign Minister and then, during much
of the 1980s and until June 1992, as Prime Minister. As Lehi operations
chief following Stern's death in 1942, Shamir organized numerous acts of
terror, including the November 1944 assassination of British Middle East
Minister Lord Moyne and the September 1948 slaying of Swedish United
Nations mediator Count Bernadotte. Years later, when Shamir was asked about
the 1941 offer, he confirmed that he was aware of his organization's
proposed alliance with wartime Germany. 49
 
Conclusion
 
In spite of the basic hostility between the Hitler regime and international
Jewry, for several years Jewish Zionist and German National Socialist
interests coincided. In collaborating with the Zionists for a mutually
desirable and humane solution to a complex problem, the Third Reich was
willing to make foreign exchange sacrifices, impair relations with Britain
and anger the Arabs. Indeed, during the 1930s no nation did more to
substantively further Jewish-Zionist goals than Hitler's Germany.
 
Notes
 
1.W. Martini, "Hebr_isch unterm Hakenkreuz," Die Welt (Hamburg), Jan. 10,
1975. Cited in: Klaus Polken, "The Secret Contacts: Zionism and Nazi
Germany, 1933-1941," Journal of Palestine Studies, Spring-Summer 1976, p.
65. 2.Quoted in: Ingrid Weckert, Feuerzeichen: Die "Reichskristallnacht"
(Tübingen: Grabert, 1981), p. 212. See also: Th. Herzl, The Jewish State
(New York: Herzl Press, 1970), pp. 33, 35, 36, and, Edwin Black, The
Transfer Agreement (New York: Macmillan, 1984), p. 73. 3.Th. Herzl, "Der
Kongress," Welt, June 4, 1897. Reprinted in: Theodor Herzls zionistische
Schriften (Leon Kellner, ed.), erster Teil, Berlin: Jüdischer Verlag, 1920,
p. 190 (and p. 139). 4.Memo of June 21, 1933, in: L. Dawidowicz, A
Holocaust Reader (New York: Behrman, 1976), pp. 150-155, and (in part) in:
Francis R. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question (Austin:
Univ. of Texas, 1985), p. 42.; On Zionism in Germany before Hitler's
assumption of power, see: Donald L. Niewyk, The Jews in Weimar Germany
(Baton Rouge: 1980), pp. 94-95, 126-131, 140-143.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich
(Austin: 1985), pp. 1-15. 5.Jüdische Rundschau (Berlin), June 13, 1933.
Quoted in: Heinz H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (New York:
Ballantine, pb., 1971, 1984), pp. 376-377. 6.Heinz Höhne, The Order of the
Death's Head (Ballantine, 1971, 1984), p. 376. 7."Berlin," Encyclopaedia
Judaica (New York and Jerusalem: 1971), Vol. 5, p. 648. For a look at one
aspect of this "vigorous life," see: J.-C. Horak, "Zionist Film Propaganda
in Nazi Germany," Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television, Vol. 4,
No. 1, 1984, pp. 49-58. 8.Francis R. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
Palestine Question (1985), pp. 54-55.; Karl A. Schleunes, The Twisted Road
to Auschwitz (Urbana: Univ. of Illinois, 1970, 1990), pp. 178-181. 9.Jacob
Boas, "A Nazi Travels to Palestine," History Today (London), January 1980,
pp. 33-38. 10.Facsimile reprint of front page of Das Schwarze Korps, May
15, 1935, in: Janusz Piekalkiewicz, Israels Langer Arm (Frankfurt: Goverts,
1975), pp. 66-67. Also quoted in: Heinz H_hne, The Order of the Death's
Head (Ballantine, 1971, 1984), p. 377. See also: Erich Kern, ed.,
Verheimlichte Dokumente (Munich: FZ-Verlag, 1988), p. 184. 11.Das Schwarze
Korps, Sept. 26, 1935. Quoted in: F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
Palestine Question (1985), pp. 56-57. 12.Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age
of the Dictators (1983), p. 83. 13.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the
Palestine Question (1985), p. 60. See also: F. Nicosia, "The Yishuv and the
Holocaust," The Journal of Modern History (Chicago), Vol. 64, No. 3, Sept.
1992, pp. 533-540. 14.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine
Question (1985), p. 57. 15.Jüdische Rundschau, Sept. 17, 1935. Quoted in:
Yitzhak Arad, with Y. Gutman and A. Margaliot, eds., Documents on the
Holocaust (Jerusalem: Yad Vashem, 1981), pp. 82-83. 16.Der Angriff, Dec.
23, 1935, in: E. Kern, ed., Verheimlichte Dokumente (Munich: 1988), p.
148.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 56.; L. Brenner, Zionism in the
Age of the Dictators (1983), p. 138.; A. Margaliot, "The Reaction...," Yad
Vashem Studies (Jerusalem), vol. 12, 1977, pp. 90-91.; On Kareski's
remarkable career, see: H. Levine, "A Jewish Collaborator in Nazi Germany,"
Central European History (Atlanta), Sept. 1975, pp. 251-281. 17."Dr. Wise
Urges Jews to Declare Selves as Such," New York Herald Tribune, June 13,
1938, p. 12. 18.F. Nicosia, The Third Reich (1985), p. 53. 19.Lucy
Dawidowicz, The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945 (New York: Bantam, pb.,
1976), pp. 253-254.; Max Nussbaum, "Zionism Under Hitler," Congress Weekly
(New York: American Jewish Congress), Sept. 11, 1942.; F. Nicosia, The
Third Reich (1985), pp. 58-60, 217.; Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement
(1984), p. 175. 20.H. H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine,
pb., 1984), pp. 380-382.; K. Schleunes, Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p. 226.;
Secret internal SS intelligence report about F. Polkes, June 17, 1937, in:
John Mendelsohn, ed., The Holocaust (New York: Garland, 1982), vol. 5, pp.
62-64. 21.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 63-64, 105, 219-220. 22.F.
Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 160. 23.This distinction is also implicit
in the "Balfour Declaration" of November 1917, in which the British
government expressed support for "a national home for the Jewish people" in
Palestine, while carefully avoiding any mention of a Jewish state.
Referring to the majority Arab population there, the Declaration went on to
caution, "...it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which
may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish
communities in Palestine." The complete text of the Declaration is
reproduced in facsimile in: Robert John, Behind the Balfour Declaration
(IHR, 1988), p. 32. 24.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 121. 25.F.
Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 124. 26.David Yisraeli, The Palestine
Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Bar-Ilan University, Israel, 1974),
p. 300.; Also in: Documents on German Foreign Policy, Series D, Vol. 5.
Doc. No. 564 or 567. 27.K. Schleunes, The Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p.
209. 28.Circular of January 25, 1939. Nuremberg document 3358-PS.
International Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before
the International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg: 1947-1949), vol. 32, pp.
242-243. Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression (Washington, DC: 1946-1948), vol.
6, pp. 92-93. 29.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 141-144.; On Hitler's
critical view of Zionism in Mein Kampf, see esp. Vol. 1, Chap. 11. Quoted
in: Robert Wistrich, Hitler's Apocalypse (London: 1985), p. 155.; See also:
F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 26-28.; Hitler told his army adjutant
in 1939 and again in 1941 that he had asked the British in 1937 about
transferring all of Germany's Jews to Palestine or Egypt. The British
rejected the proposal, he said, because it would cause further disorder.
See: H. v. Kotze, ed., Heeresadjutant bei Hitler (Stuttgart: 1974), pp. 65,
95. 30.F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 156, 160-164, 166-167.; H.
H_hne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine, pb., 1984), pp. 392-394.;
Jon and David Kimche, The Secret Roads (London: Secker and Warburg, 1955),
pp. 39-43. See also: David Yisraeli, "The Third Reich and Palestine,"
Middle Eastern Studies, October 1971, p. 347.; Bernard Wasserstein, Britain
and the Jews of Europe, 1939-1945 (1979), pp. 43, 49, 52, 60.; T.
Kelly, "Man who fooled Nazis," Washington Times, April 28, 1987, pp. 1B,
4B. Based on interview with Willy Perl, author of The Holocaust Conspiracy.
31.Y. Arad, et al., eds., Documents On the Holocaust (1981), p. 155. (The
training kibbutz was at Neuendorf, and may have functioned even after March
1942.) 32.On the Agreement in general, see: Werner Feilchenfeld, et al.,
Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (Tübingen: Mohr/Siebeck, 1972).; David
Yisraeli, "The Third Reich and the Transfer Agreement," Journal of
Contemporary History (London), No. 2, 1971, pp. 129-148.; "Haavara,"
Encyclopaedia Judaica (1971), vol. 7, pp. 1012-1013.; F. Nicosia, The Third
Reich and the Palestine Question (Austin: 1985), pp. 44-49.; Raul Hilberg,
The Destruction of the European Jews (New York: Holmes and Meier, 1985),
pp. 140-141.; The Transfer Agreement, by Edwin Black, is detailed and
useful. However, it contains numerous inaccuracies and wildly erroneous
conclusions. See, for example, the review by Richard S. Levy in Commentary,
Sept. 1984, pp. 68-71. 33.E. Black, The Transfer Agreement (1984), pp. 328,
337. 34.On opposition to the Haavara in official German circles, see: W.
Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (1972), pp. 31-33.;
D. Yisraeli, "The Third Reich," Journal of Contemporary History, 1971, pp.
136-139.; F. Nicosia, The Third Reich and the Palestine Question, pp.
126-139.; I. Weckert, Feuerzeichen (1981), pp. 226-227.; Rolf Vogel, Ein
Stempel hat gefehlt (Munich: Droemer Knaur, 1977), pp. 110 ff. 35.W.
Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer (1972), p. 31. Entire text in: David
Yisraeli, The Palestine Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Israel:
1974), pp. 298-300. 36.Interior Ministry internal memo (signed by State
Secretary W. Stuckart), Dec. 17, 1937, in: Helmut Eschwege, ed.,
Kennzeichen J (Berlin: 1966), pp. 132-136. 37.W. Feilchenfeld, et al,
Haavara-Transfer (1972), p. 32. 38.E. Black, Transfer Agreement, pp.
376-377. 39.E. Black, Transfer Agreement (1984), pp. 376, 378.; F. Nicosia,
Third Reich (1985), pp. 238-239 (n. 91). 40.E. Black, Transfer Agreement,
p. 379.; F. Nicosia, Third Reich, pp. 212, 255 (n. 66). 41.W. Feilchenfeld,
et al., Haavara-Transfer, p. 75.; "Haavara," Encyclopaedia Judaica, (1971),
Vol. 7, p. 1013. 42.E. Black, Transfer Agreement, pp. 379, 373, 382.
43.Circular of January 25, 1939. Nuremberg document 3358-PS. International
Military Tribunal, Trial of the Major War Criminals Before the
International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg: 1947-1949), Vol. 32, pp.
242-243. 44.Werner Feilchenfeld, et al., Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina
(Tübingen: Mohr/Siebeck, 1972). Quoted in: Ingrid Weckert, Feuerzeichen
(Tübingen: Grabert, 1981), pp. 222-223. 45.W. Feilchenfeld, et al.,
Haavara-Transfer nach Palaestina (1972). Quoted in: I. Weckert,
Feuerzeichen (1981), p. 224. 46.Original document in German Ausw_rtiges Amt
Archiv, Bestand 47-59, E 224152 and E 234155-58. (Photocopy in author's
possession).; Complete original German text published in: David Yisraeli,
The Palestine Problem in German Politics 1889-1945 (Israel: 1974), pp.
315-317. See also: Klaus Polkhen, "The Secret Contacts," Journal of
Palestine Studies, Spring-Summer 1976, pp. 78-80.; (At the time this offer
was made, Stern's Lehi group still regarded itself as the true Irgun/NMO.)
47.Arab nationalists opposed Britain, which then dominated much of the Arab
world, including Egypt, Iraq and Palestine. Because Britain and Germany
were at war, Germany cultivated Arab support. The leader of Palestine's
Arabs, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el-Husseini, worked closely
with Germany during the war years. After escaping from Palestine, he spoke
to the Arab world over German radio and helped raise Muslim recruits in
Bosnia for the Waffen SS. 48.Israel Shahak, "Yitzhak Shamir, Then and Now,"
Middle East Policy (Washington, DC), Vol. 1, No. 1, (Whole No. 39), 1992,
pp. 27-38.; Yehoshafat Harkabi, Israel's Fateful Hour (New York: Harper and
Row, 1988), pp. 213-214. Quoted in: Andrew J. Hurley, Israel and the New
World Order (Santa Barbara, Calif.: 1991), pp. 93, 208-209.; Avishai
Margalit, "The Violent Life of Yitzhak Shamir," New York Review of Books,
May 14, 1992, pp. 18-24.; Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the
Dictators (1983), pp. 266-269.; L. Brenner, Jews in America Today (1986),
pp. 175-177.; L. Brenner, "Yitzhak Shamir: On Hitler's Side," Arab
Perspectives (League of Arab States), March 1984, pp. 11-13. 49.Avishai
Margalit, "The Violent Life of Yitzhak Shamir," New York Review of Books,
May 14, 1992, pp. 18-24.; Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the
Dictators (1983), pp. 266-269.; L. Brenner, Jews in America Today (1986),
pp. 175-177.; L. Brenner, "Skeletons in Shamir's Cupboard," Middle East
International, Sept. 30, 1983, pp. 15-16.; Sol Stern, L.
Rapoport, "Israel's Man of the Shadows," Village Voice (New York), July 3,
1984, pp. 13 ff.

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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:10:29 +1000, in alt.revisionism "Benja'min"
 wrote:

The Communist secret police, which underwent many name
changes, including Cheka, OGPU, GPU, NKVD, NKGB, MGB, 
and KGB, was the most feared police agency in the history of 
the world.
They imprisoned, tortured, or murdered more than 30 million 
Russians and Eastern Europeans.

Even the more conservative Soviet historians of the 1960s were 
placing the number of murdered at about 20 to 40 million - figures 
that do not include the millions more who were dispossessed, 
imprisoned, exiled, tortured, and displaced.

Nobel Prizewinner Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn in his opus, The Gulag 
Archipelago, using the research of a Soviet statistician who had 
access to secret  government files, I. A. Kurganov, estimated that 
between 1918 and 1959, at least 66  million died at the hands of 
the Communistrulers of Russia.

Although that number may be far too high, in Gulag Archipelago II, 
Solzhenitsyn affirms that Jews created and administered the 
organized Soviet concentration camp system  in which tens 
of millions of Christians died.

Pictured on page 79 of the Gulag Archipelago II are the leading 
administrators of the greatest killing machine in the history of the world.

They are Aron Solts, Yakov Rappoport, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, 
Genrikh  Yagoda, and Naftaly Frenkel. All six are Jews. 



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On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 17:20:22 -0500, in alt.revisionism Doc Tavish
 wrote:

On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:26:59 -0400, <4955325.fRsBnHI3AA@X221c>, "127.0.0.1"
<127.0.0.1@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>Globalist Parasites Take 
>Fright As German Patriots 
>Prepare for Government
>By Michael James in Frankfurt, Germany
>9-23-6

>Swimming against a swelling tide of popular anger, disillusionment and
>despair, Germany's corrupt and self-serving political elites are reacting
>with horror to the quiet revolution that is taking place in the heartlands
>of the German nation. 
 
>Galvanised by a growing rage at the massive annual transfers of taxpayers'
>money to the state of Israel and the European Union against the backdrop of
>Germany's biggest tax hike in history, a bankrupt and collapsing health
>sector, failed education system, mass unemployment and a tidal wave of
>immigration, voters are terrifying their ruling masters by switching their
>allegiance to radical patriots. 
 
>Michel Friedman, a notoriously sleazy Jewish politician, wealthy activist
>lawyer and heavily promoted television personality with a criminal record
>for cocaine abuse and a penchant for vicious anti-German tirades, was among
>the first to condemn voters for sending nationalist candidates to the state
>parliament in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern last Sunday. 
 
>"The patient Germany must now be healed with antibiotics because Aspirin no
>longer works," the enraged Friedman wrote in Stern Magazine. "We must make
>it clear to voters that while protest votes in a democracy are legitimate
>they should not be used to legitimate hostile parties." 

>The pro-German Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands (National
>Democratic Party of Germany) secured six seats in the new parliament, which
>oversees a constituency suffering an 18 percent jobless rate, widespread
>poverty, swingeing cuts in public welfare and an invasion of immigrants
>seeking handouts and black market jobs. The success follows its 2004 entry
>into the state parliament in Saxony, where it now boasts twelve
>representatives, and the consolidation of a substantial parliamentary
>presence in Bremen and Brandenburg in the shape of its sister party, the
>German People's Union (DVU). 
  
>The NPD gained significantly in stature last year by staging a walkout in
>the Saxon parliament in Dresden, protesting a one-minute silence in
>remembrance of the "victims" of Auschwitz in place of a similar
>commemoration for the victims of the Dresden Holocaust. Between February 13
>and 15, 1945, an estimated 250,000 German civilians, most of them women and
>children, died in a terrorist firestorm of nightmare proportions unleashed
>by American and British bombers. It has been described as a war crime of an
>even greater magnitude to that of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and
>Nagasaki, amounting to a cold and calculated act of genocide against the
>German people and the irrational destruction of one of Europe's most
>beautiful historical cities, which at the time posed no military threat.  

>Efforts to ban the NPD failed spectacularly in March 2003 when Germany's
>Federal Constitutional Court rejected a petition from the government and
>mainstream political parties. The court was unable to obtain testimony from
>operatives working for the federal secret police, who had infiltrated the
>NPD as informers and agents provocateur. 

>However, members of Angela Merkel's increasingly unpopular coalition
>government have moved swiftly to re-state plans for a new banning order.
>Complaining that the NPD's "increasingly aggressive self-confidence" is
>partly based on its constitutionality, the Vice-President of the German
>federal parliament, Wolfgang Thierse (Social Democratic Party of Germany),
>and the chairman of the SPD's parliamentary faction, Peter Struck, are
>seeking urgent talks with the Minister of the Interior, Wolfgang Schaeuble
>(Christian Democratic Union), ahead of moves to outlaw German patriotism. 
  
>Demanding "a tougher response from the police and a prohibition of the NPD",
>Thierse reiterated Friedman's argument that protests could only be
>tolerated insofar that such protests are not translated into support for
>anti-Zionist and pro-German political movements. It was acceptable, he
>stated, that the communist PDS be allowed to absorb "rage, indignation and
>disappointment", but the same should not apply to the nationalist NPD. If
>you can't beat it, he argues, ban it. 
  
>"Unconstitutional wickedness," says Gerhard Frey, leader of the DVU and
>historical truth campaigner. "It's a cheap idea." 
 
>NPD leader Udo Voigt also remains unfazed at the fuss generated by a
>frightened elite and its journalists-for-hire in the Zionist mainstream
>media, pointing out that most of the damage directed at campaign posters
>during the election had been directed at the NPD by their opponents. The
>Berlin police went on record by saying that the emotional hysteria whipped
>up by the tabloid press in regard to alleged attacks on globalists had no
>foundation in reality "and could not be established". 
  
>Voigt is now eyeing upcoming elections in the states of Bavaria, Hessen,
>Niedersachsen and Saarland and expects a steadily increasing "momentum in
>the west" with the ultimate prize in mind: the Bundestag in 2009. But for
>the moment, all eyes are on Udo Pastoers, the prospective chief of the
>NPD's parliamentary group in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Less than a day after
>securing victory, Pastoers paid special tribute to prisoner of conscience
>and historian, Ernst Zundel, placing him alongside Mahatma Gandhi as an
>idealist and freedom fighter. 

>"Ernst Zundel has achieved the unbelievable," Pastoers said admiringly. 

>Zundel, who was illegally kidnapped from his home in the United States by
>Zionist agents working on behalf of the German government, is currently on
>trial in Mannheim for publishing scientific and historical information that
>brings into question the factual integrity of the so-called
>Jewish "holocaust". A succession of defence lawyers have been dismissed and
>threatened with prosecution for attempting to provide the court with
>evidence that Mr Zundel is correct in his assertions: a bizarre and surreal
>legal process that is unique to Germany, and which has angered millions of
>civil libertarians in Europe, Britain, Ireland, America, Canada and the
>Arab world. 

>Both Voigt and Frey have emphasised their keen willingness to work with
>other national independence movements in Europe as part of a long-term
>strategy to bring an end to the European Union, NATO, the World Bank, the
>United Nations and other institutions that represent corporate and global
>parasiticism at the expense of ordinary working and middle-class people. 
 
>"There are only two different causes that historically lead over and over
>again to destruction, murder, war and suffering," says 17-year old
>Sebastian Seidel, a member of the NPD's youth wing, the Freien
>Kameradschaften. "On the one side is the abuse of power, greed and the
>arbitrary expansion of hegemony that embraces the insanity of world
>government. On the other side is the response to injustice, resistance to
>the dark powers of evil, the struggle against those who would eliminate us,
>and the dawning of a new will to freedom that fights against everything
>that falsifies and destroys the survival imperative of peoples and their
>cultures." 
  
>As the Berlin coalition government comes to typify the worst excesses of the
>decadent Weimar Republic, endlessly promoting abortion, homosexuality,
>atheism and a hatred of all things German while sending precious young
>soldiers to die for counterfeit Israel in Afghanistan and the Lebanon,
>increasing numbers of angry German citizens are quietly and patiently
>preparing to take back their nation and declare independence from the
>Satanic New World Order. 

>"This time," says Voigt, smiling. "This time."
>http://www.rense.com/general73/global.htm
(Archived locally as: Rense_Global)

Looks like good news and hopefully the tide will turn in Canada and 
America as it is in Germany and France as well!

							Tavish


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/4f3f54c2954fe23?fwc=1
Subject: UPDATED! Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v4.0
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Subject: Re: UPDATED! Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer
Totally
Owned and Controlled by Jews v4.0
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:37:48 -0500
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				 PLUS
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Subject: The reason Canadian Kenneth McVay is distancing himself from the San
Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund? (It's illegal for one thing!)
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 01:50:56 -0500
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On 24 Sep 2006 15:25:56 -0000, in soc.culture.usa FrankFarber  wrote:

To view the video on the KOSHER TAX, go to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWn--jlRVAI&mode=related&search=

From: tyler 
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Subject: Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay!
Even Israelites Agree!
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Mr. Durden Wins the Match! Knockout of McVay and his jackals!

Here are all the important points that prove McVay has been
lying all along. Lying through his zionist teeth.

1)	US businesses are complaining about kosher tax
       http://www.ustr.gov/reports/nte/1998/israel.pdf

2)	Jewish businesses are complaining about kosher tax
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

3)	Jewish businesses complain about Rabbinical power:
http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

4)	Rabbinical firms are taking huge amounts out of the pockets of
the consumer for a religious tax that serves only a religious
minority. Circle K alone takes in over 20 million dollars per year.
The estimates do not include the cost that the manufacturer incurs in
equipment changes that are also passed to the consumer.

            Kosher Cooking: Keeping kosher is a big business
      By Peter Sinton / San Francisco Chronicle   April 2001

5) Muslims are not crazy about Kosher Foods:
         http://64.41.98.55/DoMuslimsKnowMay2001.shtml

6) Whenever anyone complains about the rabbinical or kosher tax McVay
and his jackals label them as anti-semitic, immediately! Well are
these Jewish businessmen and lawmakers in Israel also anti-semitic?
      http://www.jpost.com/Editions/2000/01/11/News/News.1181.html

It is clear that the intimidation, name calling and labeling that
McVay and his followers levy against any discussion of this matter is
also leveled at honest American and Canadian businesses. McVay's
behaviour is but an example of the verbal abuse that Zionists and the
rabbinical organizations use to extort money and compliance with
kosher certification.

Using reasoning and deductive logic one can clearly conclude that the
kosher tax is a drain on the gentile purse. It is not FOR the gentile
and it costs many millions and not a trivial amount. Even Jews in
Israel complain! Why in the world don't Americans and Canadians?

The Rabbinical Organizations are economic vampires. They drain money
>from the poorest Canadian and American for food they desparately need
and support a religious minority that practices barbaric acts on
animals. These acts, such as slitting throats of living creatures and
bleeding them to death, have been banned in progressive Sweden.

It's time we found out the truth! It's hard because of the secretive
nature of the Rabbinical organizations, but it can be rooted out!

Yours truly, in triumph,
tyler



Kenneth McVay,SOBC, convicted of child molesting
and car theft in California and Oregon, the
well-known fag in Canada,Fag McVay of Vancouver,
also a convicted car thief and all round molester,
and still unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of
the Canadian branch of NAMBLA, wants all to know
about all his fellow criminals and perverts.
Here is the latest.......

From: tyler 
Newsgroups: edm.general
Subject: The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
Message-ID: 
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:05:45 GMT

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis or COR is a certification for
kosher foods. Part of every dollar on an item that you purchase
that has the abreviation COR followed by a number goes to the
council of orthodox rabbis, a religious organization. As a
consumer you should be aware that some products that you are
purchasing cost more because of this certification.

The COR certification is now on foods and items that according
to Jewish law do not have to be certified. Salt is one of these
yet you will find COR 69 on Sifto salt and COR 92 on Windsor salt. Ketchup
also
does not need certification yet there is a COR 10 on
Heinz ketchup. You will also find COR certification on such absurd
items as Javex Bleach.Can anyone please inform me that as a result
of rabbinical supervision, Javex Bleach has become purer or more hygienic or
more effectiveI  Or ketchup? Or salt? Is it the amount
of iodine in the salt that the rabbis have to approve or what? I
thought this was done by nutritionists? Do the rabbis visit and
inspect every salt mine and tomato patch?

What the hell gives here? Why am I as a non-denominational Canadian
consumer being forced to pay a religious group for their certification
not only on a product that doesn't need it according to their own laws
but on any product whatsoever? Why is a religious minority scamming
money off of millions of Canadians on essential products such as salt
that doesn't even need kosher certification? Is this not religious
fraud? Certification for products that don't need it?

Write to:
Reuben Mark, Chairman & CEO
Colgate-Palmolive
300 Pak Avenue
New York, NY
USA      10022

and ask for a non kosher javex bleach product as you shouldn't have
to pay for COR certification. Unbelievable that this is being done.

Write to:
Guy L. Leblanc
Vice President, Production & Administration
The Canadian Salt Company, Ltd.
7th Floor
755 Boulevard St. Jean
Pointe Claire, Quebec  H9R 5M9

and ask for non kosher table salt. It should be cheaper. Ask him
specifically, how has Windsor Salt production been modified so as
to comply with Jewish religious laws?  How frequent is rabbinical
inspection of Windsor Salt plants, and of what does this inspection
consist?  Is there anyone who will claim that Windsor Table Salt is
in any detectable way different following kosher certification from
what it was before?

As a matter of fact ask these guys:
Do you have information on how Council of Orthodox Rabbis
kosher-certification earnings are distributed, as for example what
proportion of them goes toward supporting the ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians by the State of Israel, or what proportion goes toward
the expansion of Israel's nuclear arsenal, etc.etc In other words,do
the proceeds go to political as well as religious agendas that have
nothing to do with Canada?

Where is W5  on this matter? Are there any newsreporters that can
explain this? Maybe the Protestants and Catholics will catch on and
start making their own certification organization. I can see it now,
GFJ, good for jesus certification...

Wow, god is such good business...

tyler

On 2 Jan 2002 09:40:35 -0800,
in edm.general
his_shadow@my-deja.com (His Divine Shadow) used both functioning neurons to
say:

>kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay, OBC) wrote in message
news:...
>> ADL Special Edition, January 1991
>> A periodic update from the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith
>> Civil Rights Division
>>
>> "The Kosher Food Tax is the biggest consumer fraud existing in
>> America."
>>
>> The bizarre claim by right wing extremists that kosher certification
>> markings on food labels ("U," "K," etc.) cost consumers extra money
>> and represent, in effect, a "kosher tax" to make rabbis rich, is a
>> striking example of the propaganda used by anti-Semites to trick the
>> uninformed into accepting conspiracy charges and stereotypes about
>> Jews.
>
>
>Thanks for the info, Kenneth.

Ken's information is all well and good but it still doesn't address all
of the issues raised in the appended post,  which probably was the
reason why he was moved to comment on the subject in the first place.

All and all, I don't suppose it is any worse than anything perpetuated
by the tradition of 'Royal Warrants' (http://www.royalwarrant.org/)
but I personally find the traditional rant and spin attached to everything
Ken puts out as some neo-nazi neo-conservative conspirarcy to be
getting a bit thin, and tiresome. A simple explaination of fact would
have sufficed.

It's a continual appeal to developing a mindset that says if you aren't
a friend then you are any enemy. It's bullshit. I dare say there are
probably proportionately just as many Jews that are political right
wing extremeists as any other religion, including Baptists.

No one has to be a neo-nazi to object to any spcial concession to a
religious organization thing that increases the cost all consumers must
bear, even if it adds only $0.0005 to the cost of an individual item.

A few years back many people got their undies in a twist when it
was revealed that Rev. Sun Myung Moon was involved in many
well known companies, and boycotted it's products.

AFAIC it doesn't matter if a religion is termed a cult, there is no
reason to attribute arcane motivations to anything that helps people
to appreciate the complexity of the world we live in.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: tyler 
Newsgroups: winnipeg.general
Subject: The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 05:14:25 GMT

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis: Kosher Tax on Canadians?

The Council of Orthodox Rabbis or COR is a certification for kosher
foods. Part of every dollar on an item that you purchase  that has the
abreviation COR followed by a number goes to the council of orthodox
rabbis, a religious organization. As a consumer you should be aware
than some products that you are purchasing cost more because of this
ceritification.

The COR certification is now on foods and items that according to
Jewish law do not have to be certified. Salt is one of these yet you
will find COR 69 on SIfto salt and COR 92 on Windsor salt. Ketchup
also does not need certification yet there is a COR 10 on Heinz
ketchup. You will also find COR certification on such absurd items as
Javex Bleach.Can anyone please inform me  that as a result of
rabbinical supervision, Javex Bleach has become purer or more hygienic
or more effectiveI  Or ketchup? Or salt? Is it the amount of iodine in
the salt that the rabbis have to approve or what? I thought this was
done by nutritionists? Do the rabbis visit and inspect every salt mine
and tomato patch?

What the hell gives here? Why am I as a non-denominational Canadian
consumer being forced to pay a religious group for their certification
not only on a product that doesn't need it according to their own laws
but on any product whatsoever? Why is a religious minority scamming
money off of millions of Canadians on essential products such as salt
that doesn't even need kosher certification? Is this not religious
fraud? Certification for products that don't need it?

Write to:
Reuben Mark, Chairman & CEO
Colgate-Palmolive
300 Pak Avenue
New York, NY
USA      10022

and ask for a non kosher javex bleach product as you shouldn't have to
pay for COR certification. Unbelievable that this is being done.

Write to:
Guy L. Leblanc
Vice President, Production & Administration
The Canadian Salt Company, Ltd.
7th Floor
755 Boulevard St. Jean
Pointe Claire, Quebec  H9R 5M9

and ask for non kosher table salt. It should be cheaper. Ask him
specifically, how has Windsor Salt production been modified so as to
comply with Jewish religious laws?  How frequent is rabbinical
inspection of Windsor Salt plants, and of what does this inspection
consist?  Is there anyone who will claim that Windsor Table Salt is in
any detectable way different following kosher certification from what
it was before?

As a matter of fact ask these guys:
Do you have information on how Council of Orthodox Rabbis
kosher-certification earnings are distributed, as for example what
proportion of them goes toward supporting the ethnic cleansing of
Palestinians by the State of Israel, or what proportion goes toward
the expansion of Israel's nuclear arsenal, etc.etc In other words, do
the proceeds go to political as well as religious agendas that have
nothing to do with Canada?

Where is W5  on this matter? Are there any newsreporters that can
explain this? Maybe the Protestants and Catholics will catch on and
start making their own certification organization. I can see it now,
GFJ, good for jesus certification...

Wow, god is such good business...

tyler

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BIGGEST SWISS PAPER SAYS 911 CAUSED BY BUSH AND HIS JEWS (TRANSLATION AT THE
BOTTOM)

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 18:48:34 -0400, in soc.culture.russian "serwad"
 wrote:

BLICK, the biggest Newspaper of Switzerland brings Cover Story: "Bush-Clan 
is behind 9/11"

The rest of the article is in German, the CIA might have fast translators to 
decifer the message...

Jetzt sagen auch Schweizer zum 9/11: «Steckt doch der Bush-Clan dahinter?»

VON ELIE PETER 15.09.2006 | 12:03:15

ZÜRICH - 2973 Menschen starben bei den Anschlägen von 9/11. «Bin Laden» und 
«Al Kaida», schrie der Bush-Clan. Die Welt glaubte ihm. Inzwischen zweifeln 
selbst Wissenschaftler an der Bush-Version. Auch die Schweizer Uni-Dozenten 
Albert A. Stahel (63) und Daniele Ganser (34) stellen jetzt heisse Fragen.

«Etwas stimmt nicht», sagt Strategieexperte Stahel in der «Weltwoche» und 
verweist auf den «lückenhaften» offiziellen 9/11-Report der US-Regierung von 
2004.

Gegenüber BLICK bestätigt der Uni-Professor die Kritik:

Osama Bin Laden kann «nicht der grosse Pate» hinter den Anschlägen sein. Er 
habe nicht genug Kommunikationsmittel gehabt.

Stahel bezweifelt, dass ein Passagierflugzeug ins Pentagon krachte: «Für 
Flug-Anfänger ist es eigentlich unmöglich, das Gebäude so genau zu treffen.»

Sieben Stunden nach den Twin Towers stürzte daneben das World Trade Center 7 
ein. Die offizielle Version: Es brannte lange. Stahel: «Gar nichts ist 
klar.»

Noch weiter als Stahel geht Historiker Daniele Ganser, sein Kollege an der 
Uni Zürich. Auch die offizielle US-Version nennt er «eine 
Verschwörungstheorie»: «Es gibt 3 Theorien, die wir gleichberechtigt 
behandeln sollten»:

«Überraschungs-Theorie» Bin Laden und Al Kaida führten die Anschläge aus.

«Lass es absichtlich passieren» Teile der US-Regierung kannten die 
Al-Kaida-Pläne. Sie reagierten nicht, um eine Serie von Kriegen zu 
legitimieren.

«Führe es absichtlich selbst aus» Die Anschläge wurden vom Pentagon und/oder 
Geheimdiensten ausgeführt. Die Bin-Laden-Videos sind gefälscht. 3000 
Menschen wurden für strategische Interessen geopfert.

Ganser: «Je mehr wir forschen, desto mehr zweifeln wir an Bushs Version.» 
Für ihn ist denkbar, dass die Bush-Regierung verantwortlich war. «Bush hat 
schon so viel gelogen! Und bereits 1962 gab es im Pentagon einen Plan, 
unschuldige US-Bürger für eigene Interessen zu opfern.» So weit wie Ganser 
geht Stahel nicht: «Ich stelle nur Fragen.»

Hier der Link zum Blick: 
[url=http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/9-11/artikel45057?display=kommentar]http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/9-11/arti...splay=kommentar[/url]

Heutiges Blick-Cover: 
[img]http://is.blick.ch/img/gen/P/d/HBPdF4VF_Pxgen_r_442xA.jpg[/img]



Was the Bush-Clan behind 9/11?

Swiss University Lecturers ask the HOT QUESTIONS

"The More We Research, the More We Doubt It"

BLICK
BY ELIE PETER
15.09.2006

ZURICH

http://www.blick.ch/news/ausland/9-11/artikel45057?display=kommentar

2973 humans died in the events of 9/11. "Bin Laden" and "al-Queda", the Bush 
clan cried. The world believed him. In the meantime, even scientists doubt 
the Bush version. Also the Swiss University lecturers, Albert A. Stahel (63) 
and Daniele Ganser (34), now ask hot questions.

"Something is not right", says strategy expert, Stahel, in the "World Week", 
and he refers to the "incomplete" official 9/11-Report of the US Government 
of 2004.

In response to BLICK the university professor confirms the criticism:

Osama Ben Laden cannot be "the grand godfather" behind the events. He could 
not have had enough means of communication.

Stahel doubts that a passenger airline hit the Pentagon: "For flight 
beginners it would have been actually impossible to target the building so 
exactly."

Seven hours after the twin Towers collapsed, beside it, the World Trade 
Center 7 collapsed. The official version: It burned for a long time. Stahel: 
"nothing at all is clear."

Stahel goes further than historian, Daniele Ganser, his colleague at the 
University of Zurich. He also calls the official US version "a conspiracy 
theory": "There are 3 theories, which should we treat equally?":

* "Surprise theory" - Bin Laden and al-Qaeda implemented the events.

* "Let it happen intentionally" - parts of the US Government knew of 
al-Queda's plans. They did not react, in order to legitimize a series of 
wars.

* "It was intentionally played out" - the events were implemented by the 
Pentagon and/or secret services. The Bin Laden videos were falsified. 3000 
humans were sacrificed for strategic interests.

Ganser: "The more we research, the more we doubt the Bush version." It is 
conceivable that the Bush government was responsible. "Bush already lied so 
much! And it already occured in 1962 that the Pentagon had a plan to 
sacrifice innocent US citizens for its own interests." Stahel does not go as 
far as Ganser: "I have only questions."







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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:45:36 GMT, "Godzilla Pimp"  wrote:

>From: http://snipurl.com/dzm1

>"German prosecutors have provoked outrage by ruling that the 1945 RAF 
>bombing of Dresden can legally be termed a "holocaust"."

>Well duh, it certainly was a holocaust if anything ever was (From Greek 
>holokaustos, burnt whole). They burned the whole city and everyone in it, 
>among other cities like Hamburg.

>Besides, the Jews were not burned to death but supposedly gassed, according 
>the final version of the fable (earlier ones included mass electrocution and 
>steaming). No evidence of gas chambers has ever been found, of course, 
>because they never existed. But the Jews have a talent for getting the dumb 
>"goyim" (cattle) to believe in such myths of murdered Jewish heroes, 
>Christianity being the most notable one.

>GP 

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:58:40 -0500, in alt.politics.nationalism.white
phantomK777@webtv.net (Whitey Loughmiller) wrote:

Dresden
Kevin Alfred Strom

The night of February 13th, and February 14th, Valentine's Day, mark an
ominous anniversary in the history of Western Civilization. For
beginning on the night of February 13th, 1945, occurred the destruction
of Dresden. 

On the eve of Valentine's Day, 1945, World War II in Europe was nearly
over. For all practical purposes Germany was already defeated. Italy,
and Germany's other European allies, had fallen by the wayside. The Red
Army was rushing to occupy vast areas of what had been Germany in the
East, while the allies of the Soviets, the British and Americans, were
bombing what was left of Germany's defenses and food and transportation
infrastructure into nonexistence. 

And what was Dresden? Most of you have probably heard of Dresden China,
and that delicately executed and meticulously detailed porcelain is
really a perfect symbol for that city. 

For centuries Dresden had been a center of art and culture, and refined
leisure and recreation. She was a city of art museums and theatres,
circuses and sports stadia, a town of ancient half-timbered buildings
looking for all the world like those of medieval England, with venerable
churches and centuries-old cathedrals gracing her skyline. She was a
city of artists and craftsmen, of actors and dancers, of tourists and
the merchants and hotels that served them. 
Above all, what Dresden was, was defined during the war by what she was
not. She had no significant military or industrial installations.
Because of this, Dresden had become, above all other things that she
was, a city of children, of women, of refugees, and of the injured and
maimed who were recovering from their wounds in her many hospitals. 

These women and children, these wounded soldiers, these infirm and
elderly people, these refugees fleeing from the brutal onslaught of the
Communist armies to the East, had come to Dresden because it was
commonly believed at the time that Dresden would not be attacked. Its
lack of strategic or military or industrial significance, and the
well-known presence of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilian
refugees and even Allied prisoners of war, seemed to guarantee safety to
the city. Surely, it was thought, not even a the most powerful and
determined enemy would be so depraved and sadistic, and so wasteful of
that enemy's own resources, to attack such a city. But the people of
Dresden, who were happily attending the cinema or eating dinner at home
or watching the show-horses in the circus on that fateful night were
wrong, wrong, wrong. And their leaders were also wrong, for the city was
virtually open and undefended and only minimal civil defense
preparations had been made. 

Dresden's population had almost doubled in the months before the attack,
mainly as a result of the influx of refugees from the Eastern Front,
most of them women and young children. 

According to British historian David Irving, the briefings given to the
British bomber squadrons before the attack on Dresden were curiously
different. In one, the soldiers were told that their target was the
railway center of Dresden. In another, they were told that the target
was a poison-gas factory. In yet another, they were told that the target
was a marshalling-grounds for troops in the city. Another was told that
the target was a major arsenal. These were all lies. 
The only marshalling-grounds for what few troops were in the area were
located well outside the city. The arsenal had burned down in 1916.
There were factories for toothpaste and baby-powder in Dresden, but none
for poison gas. There were, in fact, no fewer than eighteen railway
stations in Dresden, but only one was hit by the bombing, and that was
barely touched and in fact was operating again just three days later. 

According to copious documentation unearthed by David Irving from the
archives of the American and British governments, the point of the
attack was in fact to inflict the maximum loss of life on the civilian
population and particularly to kill as many refugees as possible who
were fleeing from the Red Army. In achieving these goals it was highly
successful. It was thus planned and executed by those at the very
highest levels of the British and American governments, who to attain
their purposes even lied to their own soldiers and citizens, who to this
day have never been told the full story by their leaders. 
How was this devastating effect accomplished? 
At 10:10 PM on February 13th, the first wave of the attack, consisting
of the British Number 5 Bomber Group, began. The attacking force
consisted of about 2,000 bombers with additional support craft, which
dropped over 3,000 high explosive and 650,000 incendiary bombs (more
commonly known as firebombs) on the center of the city. Incendiary bombs
are not known for their efficiency per pound in destroying heavy
equipment such as military hardware or railroad tracks, but are
extremely effective in producing maximum loss of human life. The loads
carried by the bombers were over 75 per cent incendiaries. In fact, the
goal of the first wave of the attack was, according to British air
commander Sir Arthur Bomber Harris, to set the city well on fire. That
he did. 

The lack of any effective anti-aircraft defenses allowed the bombers to
drop to very low altitudes and thus a relatively high degree of
precision and visual identification of targets was achieved. Despite the
fact that they could clearly see that the marked target area contained
hospitals and sports stadia and residential areas of center city
Dresden, the bombers nevertheless obeyed orders and rained down a fiery
death upon the unlucky inhabitants of that city on a scale which had
never before been seen on planet Earth. 

Hundreds of thousands of innocents were literally consumed by fire, an
actual holocaust by the true definition of the word: complete
consumption by fire. 
  
 
 Dresden after its holocaust
The incendiaries started thousands of fires and, aided by a stiff wind
and the early-on destruction of the telephone exchanges that might have
summoned firefighters from nearby towns, these fires soon coalesced into
one unimaginably huge firestorm. Now such firestorms are not natural
phenomena, and are seldom created by man, so few people have any idea of
their nature. Basically, what happened was this: The intense heat caused
by the huge column of smoke and flame, miles high and thousands of acres
in area, created a terrific updraft of air in the center of the column. 
This created a very low pressure at the base of the column, and
surrounding fresh air rushed inward at speeds estimated to be thirty
times that of an ordinary tornado. An ordinary tornado wind-force is a
result of temperature differences of perhaps 20 to 30 degrees
centigrade. In this firestorm the temperature differences were on the
order of 600 to 1,000 degrees centigrade. This inward-rushing air
further fed the flames, creating a literal tornado of fire, with winds
in the surrounding area of many hundreds of miles per hour -- sweeping
men, women, children, animals, vehicles and uprooted trees pell-mell
into the glowing inferno. 

But this was only the first stage of the plan. 
Exactly on schedule, three hours after the first attack, a second
massive armada of British bombers arrived, again loaded with high
explosive and massive quantities of incendiary bombs. The residents of
Dresden, their power systems destroyed by the first raid, had no warning
of the second. Again the British bombers attacked the center city of
Dresden, this time dividing their targets  -- one half of the bombs
were to be dropped into the center of the conflagration, to keep it
going, the other half around the edges of the firestorm. No pretense
whatever was made of selecting military targets. The timing of the
second armada was such as to ensure that a large quantity of the
surviving civilians would have emerged from their shelters by that time,
which was the case, and also in hopes that rescue and firefighting crews
would have arrived from surrounding cities, which also proved to be
true. The firefighters and medics thus incinerated hadn't needed the
telephone exchange to know that they were needed -- the firestorm was
visible from a distance of 200 miles. 

It is reported that body parts, pieces of clothing, tree branches, huge
quantities of ashes, and miscellaneous debris from the firestorm fell
for days on the surrounding countryside as far away as eighteen miles.
After the attack finally subsided, rescue workers found nothing but
liquefied remains of the inhabitants of some shelters, where even the
metal kitchen utensils had melted from the intense heat. 

The next day, Ash Wednesday and Valentine's Day, 1945, medical and other
emergency personnel from all over central Germany had converged on
Dresden. Little did they suspect that yet a third wave of bombers was on
its way, this time American. This attack had been carefully coordinated
with the previous raids. Four hundred fifty Flying Fortresses and a
support contingent of fighters arrived to finish the job at noon. I
quote from David Irving's The Destruction of Dresden: 

"Just a few hours before Dresden had been a fairy-tale city of spires
and cobbled streets .... now total war had put an end to all that.
..The ferocity of the US raid of 14th February had finally brought the
people to their knees... but it was not the bombs which finally
demoralised the people ... it was the Mustang fighters, which suddenly
appeared low over the city, firing on everything that moved .... one
section of the Mustangs concentrated on the river banks, where masses of
bombed-out people had gathered. ... British prisoners who had been
released from their burning camps were among the first to suffer the
discomfort of machine-gunning attacks .... wherever columns of tramping
people were marching in or out of the city they were pounced on by the
fighters, and machine-gunned or raked with cannon fire." [Image: Dresden
skyline after Allied saturation bombing.] 

Ladies and gentlemen, on this program I can only give you a bare glimpse
of the inhuman horror of the holocaust of Dresden. In Dresden, no fewer
than 135,000 innocent victims died, with some estimates as high as
300,000. More died in Dresden than died in the well-known attacks on
Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 

More destruction befell Dresden in one day than was inflicted on the
whole of Britain during the entire war. And yet you haven't been told. 

I urge every one of you to read The Destruction of Dresden by David
Irving. I assure you, after reading Irving's book, you will never take
seriously the Establishment's version of what happened in that war
again. 

What you ought to take seriously, though, is the fact that the same
clique that controlled the traitorous Roosevelt and Churchill
governments, whose hatred of our race and civilization and whose
alliance with Communism were the real causes of the holocaust of
Dresden, still controls our government and our media today. It is they
who are pushing for a disarmed, racially mixed America. It is they who
promote the teaching of sodomy to our young children. It is they who are
destroying our industrial infrastructure in the name of a global
economy. It is they who created the drug subculture and then also the
police state agencies which pretend to fight it. 

The hour is very late for America and indeed for all of Western
civilization. But if patriots will heed our call, then there is no
reason for despair. For the enemies of our nation may have power, but
their power is based on lies. Won't you help us cut through the chain of
lies that holds our people in mental slavery? 
Every year, families should commemorate the anniversary of the holocaust
of Dresden on the eve of 13th February. 

Free Speech --  David Irving has generously made his Destruction of
Dresden available as a free download, in PDF format, at his Focal Point
Press website.

--- 
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate , tireless
minority keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men. " --
Samuel Adams 

" George W. Bush is so pro-Mexico that if you hit him with a stick
prizes would fall out of him. " 

--Argus Hamilton  

"If you worship your enemy, you are defeated. 

If you adopt your enemy's religion you are enslaved. 

If you breed with your enemy you are destroyed." 

-- Polydoros

"Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice. 
It is not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved . " 

-- William Jennings Bryan
   
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www.Stormfront.org
www.WhiteRevolution.com
www.V-News.org 



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On Thu, 31 May 2007 19:31:35 -0700, in soc.culture.jewish ADL Reporter
 wrote:

New York, NY, May 31, 2007 -- The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today
expressed outrage at a report that the Swiss Foreign Ministry proposed
a seminar "about different perceptions about the Holocaust" during
talks with Iran over its nuclear program last year.... See more at the
URL below.

http://antidefamationleague.us/#adl_outraged



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The vote was NOT "close" as ADL had hoped for!!


On Thu, 31 May 2007 04:43:34 GMT, NY.Transfer.News@blythe.org wrote:

>British academics approve Israel boycott

>Via NY Transfer News Collective  *  All the News that Doesn't Fit

>sent by Andy Pollack

>This is huge -- a huge union taking a huge step.
>Get ready to defend them and to follow their lead!

>The Guardian - May 30, 2007
>http://education.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329949066-108234,00.html

>7.30pm update
>Lecturers back boycott of Israel

>by James Meikle, Education corresponden

>University lecturers today threatened to provoke international
>condemnation over academic freedom by forcing their union into a
>year-long debate over boycotting work with Israeli universities.

>Delegates at the first conference of the new University and College
>Union in Bournemouth voted by more than three to two to recommend
>boycotts in protest at Israel's "40-year occupation" of Palestinian
>land and to condemn the "complicity" of Israeli academics.

>The conference motion said there should be "a comprehensive and
>consistent boycott" of all Israeli academic institutions, as called for
>by Palestinian trade unions.

>Delegates voted by 158 to 99 in favour of the motion. The union's
>leadership must now circulate calls from Palestinians for a boycott of
>Israeli universities to all branches throughout the country.

>Tom Hickey, a Brighton University academic and union national executive
>member, who led the call for stronger moves towards a boycott, said:
>"There will be adverse effects on individuals, but this is not
>targeting individuals or trying to break contacts with them."

>He said the vote in favour of a boycott call to all branches reflected
>"the deep concern" people have about the issue. A boycott could involve
>lecturers refusing to collaborate on research contracts with Israeli
>academics and refusing to work with journals published by Israeli
>companies.

>However, Sally Hunt, the general secretary of the union, said: "I do
>not believe a boycott is supported by a majority of (the 120,000) UCU
>members; nor do I believe that members see it as a priority for the
>union."

>Ofir Frankel, a spokesman for the Advisory Board for Academic Freedom,
>said: "This was a disappointment. We see it as discriminatory and
>counterproductive. It will make British academia look a little less
>serious." He added that it would also damage existing links between
>Israelis and Palestinians, Jews and Arabs.

>The decision was greeted with outrage among Jewish groups and
>activists. Jeremy Newmark, chief executive of the Jewish Leadership
>Council, said: "The UCU boycott motion is an assault on academic
>freedom. While the vast majority of academics do not support a boycott,
>this decision damages the credibility of British academia as a whole."

>Jon Benjamin, chief executive of the Board of Deputies of British Jews,
>said: "Now is the time to strengthen the kinds of relationships that
>will bring all sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict together and,
>in this country, create a better understanding of the complex issues
>through that engagement. We call upon the Union's leadership and all
>members who are rightly outraged by the decision to work towards a
>reversal of this policy."

>Mitch Simmons, campaigns director for the Union of Jewish Students,
>said: "Academic freedom is part of the fabric of modern society. The
>exchange of information and the advancement of human knowledge should
>have no borders. Disappointingly, it seems that no value can be left
>unviolated by the proposers of this motion."

>During the debate, which lasted well over an hour, Michael Cushman,
>from the London School of Economics, said: "Universities are to Israel
>what the springboks were to South Africa: the symbol of their national
>identity."

>Israel wanted to claim it was a normal democratic state and
>universities were integral to that, Mr Cushman said. "[But] it is not a
>normal state. They are not normal universities.

>"Senior academics move from universities into ministries and back
>again," he said.

>"Regularly, lecturers take up their commissions in the Israeli Defence
>Force as reserve officers to go into the West Bank to dominate, control
>and shoot the population."

>But Mary Davis, from London Metropolitan University, said there were
>"many, many academics ... who oppose Israeli government policy tooth
>and nail ... This notion that Israeli academia is the Springbok of
>Israel is just plain wrong and foolish."

>Guardian News and Media Limited 2007
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On 30 May 2007 09:15:23 -0700, in soc.culture.palestine ADL Reporter
 wrote:

Published: May 30, 07, 16:31 / Israel News

Hours before members of the University and College Union (UCU) gather
in Bournemouth, southern England, to vote on a motion calling for a
boycott of Israeli academic institutions, British-Jewish academics
told Ynetnews they expected the vote to be close, adding that it could
"could go either way."

"I really don't know what will happen," said Ronnie Fraser, Chairman
of the Academic Friends of Israel. "Sally Hunter (Joint Secretary
General of UCU) has just spoken, coming out against a boycott. But
there are too many unknowns."

British academic unions have flirted with boycotts of Israel on a
number of occasions in the past few years, and in 2005, the
Association of University Teachers (AUT) passed an Israel boycott
motion. It was overturned shortly afterwards.... See more at the URL
below.

http://adlonline.us/#israel_ostracized




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Der Jude ist ein dreckiger Hund, erbärmlich, Parasit usw. (Auflösung)

On Wed, 27 Dec 2006 12:59:13 +0100, in de.soc.politik.misc egon-karl ullrich
 wrote:

Ein Teil der Auflösung des 'Rätsel - ja-wie-kann-denn-der-sowas-sagen-?' 
ist ja bereits veröffentlicht im Artikelstran "Der Jude ist ein Parasit" 
(wer lesen kann und will ist klar im Vorteil, der meist dämliche Spruch 
trifft hier mal wirklich zu), dort gibts auch ein zion. Original-Buch 
zum runterladen:

Es handelt sich in den "Subjects" um Zitate aus