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Global Organized Crime Dominated by Jews

On 7 Sep 2006 11:51:39 -0700, in uk.politics.misc "Orac II"
 wrote:

Russia Takes Underworld to New Level

2006-09-06

Jewish mobsters enjoy safe haven in Israel

Not long ago there was only one Mafia to worry about. But lately guys
with names like "Guido" and "Joey" have been muscled off the most-
wanted list by other guys with names like "Vitaly" and "Slava."
Russian mobsters, as Robert I. Friedman shows in his timely new book,
Red Mafiya, aren't just copying their Italian counterparts. In many
ways, they're taking professional crime to a whole new level.

Consider violence. When the Italian mobsters get mad at somebody, it's
usually just the offending party who pays the price. Get on the wrong
side of the Russians, reports Friedman, and they'll wipe out your
whole family. And that's not the only way the two crime groups differ.
In key profit centers, such as bank fraud, Russians are scoring record
gains, but it's in the global arena where they're really beating the
competition.

Being international in outlook gives Russian mobsters an advantage in
drug sales, money laundering and the illegal trade of military
equipment. And being mostly Jewish gives them a safe haven in Israel
where many Russian Mafia types are citizens and thus immune from
extradition to the United States when the feds get after them.

As they did during Soviet times, crime and government function more or
less as one in post-communist Russia. Today, though, the same thing
may be happening in Israel, which, Friedman claims, is close to
becoming a wholly owned subsidiary of the Russian crime syndicates.
"With two decades of unimpeded growth the Russian Mafiya has succeeded
in turning Israel into its very own "mini-state,' in which it operates
with virtual impunity," he writes. Warns one international law
enforcement official quoted by Friedman: "Israel is going to have to
do something. They could lose their whole country."

Full article
http://www.sptimes.com/News/071600/Perspective/Russia_takes_underwor.shtml


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website 
for JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION 
WITH NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - 
no wonder people around the world are really disliking the 
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IHR - www.ihr.org
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OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
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You seem to dislike the exposure, by renowned researchers of the
TRUTH, that the Christkiller ZHIDS WERE ACTIVE COLLABORATORS
WITH THE NAZIS IN WWII!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL was a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

Now that there at least 52 proven instances, with more being revealed
each month, the world will now see what many victims have known for 60
years!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL was a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


>> > >The Accusations

>> > >Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>> > >"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>> > >Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>> > >In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>> > >he wrote:

>> > >'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>> > >certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>> > >This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>> > >brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>> > >the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>> > >which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>> > >Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>> > >of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>> > >escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three  weeks
>> > >notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>> > >chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>> > >plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

>> > >Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>> > >took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>> > >bargaining end there.

>> > >Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>> > >fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>> > >to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>> > >These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>> > >published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>> > >"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>> > >stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>> > >I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>> > >Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>> > >political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>> > >authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>> > >was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>> > >He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>> > >keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>> > >few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>> > >It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>> > >not too high for me.

>> > >.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>> > >cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>> > >smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>> > >and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and  reserve
>> > >he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>> > >Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>> > >of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>> > >As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>> > >attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>> > >Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>> > >thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>> > >goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>> > >group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>> > >keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>> > >After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>> > >That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26-61)

>> > >Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>> > >merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>> > >equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>> > >that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>> > >accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>> > >circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

>> > >Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>> > >According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>> > >Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>> > >accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>> > >than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>> > >Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>> > >Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>> > >prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>> > >The Verdict

>> > >Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>> > >Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>> > >The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>> > >studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>> > >has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>> > >community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>> > >in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>> > >It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>> > >complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>> > >the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>> > >its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>> > >backfire on the censors themselves.

>> > >Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>> > >became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>> > >"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>> > >deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>> > >confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>> > >Kenyermeze.

>> > >The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>> > >they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>> > >The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>> > >rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>> > >others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>> > >the Jews.
>> > >They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>> > >of Jewish leaders.

>> > >The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>> > >leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>> > >spreading such false information and did not protest.

>> > >Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>> > >persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

>> > >The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>> > >knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>> > >deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>> > >quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>> > >hampering the deportation orders.

>> > >Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>> > >dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>> > >these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>> > >the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>> > >And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>> > >Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>> > >The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>> > >Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>> > >their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>> > >who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>> > >deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>> > >in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>> > >The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>> > >extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>> > >in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>> > >this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>> > >dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>> > >its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>> > >Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>> > >catastrophe.

>> > >The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>> > >Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>> > >The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>> > >ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>> > >expensively if honorably guided.

>> > >Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>> > >exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>> > >The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>> > >Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>> > >task easier.

>> > >The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>> > >summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>> > >not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>> > >chiefs.
>> > >It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>> > >Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>> > >underground.

>> > >The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>> > >Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>> > >the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>> > >Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>> > >The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>> > >these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>> > >the extermination plan of the killers ?

>> > >The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>> > >Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>> > >friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>> > >annihilation.

>> > >The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>> > >six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>> > >Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>> > >attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>> > >to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>> > >great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>> > >would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>> > >the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>> > >When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>> > >soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>> > >of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>> > >agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>> > >the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>> > >Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>> > >Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>> > >An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>> > >Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>> > >and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>> > >condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>> > >and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>> > >from the book of the living.

>> > >One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>> > >put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>> > >only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>> > >area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>> > >rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>> > >All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>> > >to evade this truth.

>> > >Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>> > >wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted  quickly
>> > >to another."

>> > >(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>> > >General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>> > >Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>> > >Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>> > >'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>> > >"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>> > >stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>> > >According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>> > >Jews.

>> > >This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>> > >'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>> > >of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>> > >criminals.

>> > >Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>> > >achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>> > >Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>> > >Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>> > >Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>> > >Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>> > >In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>> > >the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>> > >All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>> > >were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi continues:

>> > >"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>> > >when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>> > >the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>> > >Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>> > >As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>> > >defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>> > >remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>> > >The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>> > >criminal.

>> > >The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>> > >testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in  the
>> > >activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>> > >minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>> > >truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>> > >Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>> > >stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>> > >declared in the affidavit.

>> > >The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>> > >but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>> > >and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>> > >the good intention of good Becher'.

>> > >It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>> > >his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>> > >World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>> > >exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>> > >of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>> > >contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>> > >sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>> > >was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>> > >Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>> > >given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>> > >in Nuremberg.

>> > >Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>> > >accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>> > >his statements." (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>> > >libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>> > >accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>> > >partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>> > >ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>> > >pounds as court costs.

>> > >In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>> > >been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>> > >Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>> > >completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>> > >matter.

>> > >If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>> > >individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>> > >attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>> > >pointed to much more than that.

>> > >But the story does not end there.






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Subject: ZYD KOLLABORACI WITH NAZIS=KASTNER, RUMKOWSLI, WIESENTHAL + 51 More!! Part 2/3
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You seem to dislike the exposure, by renowned researchers of the
TRUTH, that the Christkiller ZHIDS WERE ACTIVE COLLABORATORS
WITH THE NAZIS IN WWII!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL was a nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

Now that there at least 52 proven instances, with more being revealed
each month, the world will now see what many victims have known for 
more than 60 years!!


>> > >The Accusations

>> > >Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>> > >"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>> > >Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>> > >In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>> > >he wrote:

>> > >'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>> > >certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

>> > >This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>> > >brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>> > >the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>> > >which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>> > >Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>> > >of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>> > >escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three  weeks
>> > >notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>> > >chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>> > >plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

>> > >Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>> > >took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>> > >bargaining end there.

>> > >Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>> > >fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>> > >to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)

>> > >These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>> > >published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>> > >"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>> > >stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>> > >I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>> > >Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>> > >political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>> > >authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>> > >was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>> > >He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>> > >keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>> > >few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>> > >It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>> > >not too high for me.

>> > >.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>> > >cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>> > >smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>> > >and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and  reserve
>> > >he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>> > >Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>> > >of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>> > >As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>> > >attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>> > >Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>> > >thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>> > >goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>> > >group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>> > >keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>> > >After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>> > >That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26-61)

>> > >Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>> > >merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>> > >equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>> > >that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>> > >accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>> > >circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.

>> > >Are the accusations against Kastner true?

>> > >According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>> > >Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>> > >accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>> > >than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>> > >Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>> > >Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>> > >prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

>> > >The Verdict

>> > >Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>> > >Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>> > >The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>> > >studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>> > >has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>> > >community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>> > >in bad taste and contrary to common sense.

>> > >It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>> > >complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>> > >the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>> > >its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>> > >backfire on the censors themselves.

>> > >Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>> > >became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:

>> > >"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>> > >deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>> > >confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>> > >Kenyermeze.

>> > >The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>> > >they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.

>> > >The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>> > >rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>> > >others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>> > >the Jews.
>> > >They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>> > >of Jewish leaders.

>> > >The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>> > >leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>> > >spreading such false information and did not protest.

>> > >Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>> > >persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.

>> > >The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>> > >knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>> > >deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>> > >quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>> > >hampering the deportation orders.

>> > >Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>> > >dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>> > >these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>> > >the deportations were organized in these ghettos.

>> > >And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>> > >Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.

>> > >The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>> > >Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>> > >their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>> > >who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>> > >deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>> > >in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.

>> > >The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>> > >extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>> > >in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>> > >this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>> > >dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>> > >its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>> > >Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>> > >catastrophe.

>> > >The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>> > >Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.

>> > >The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>> > >ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>> > >expensively if honorably guided.

>> > >Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>> > >exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.

>> > >The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>> > >Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>> > >task easier.

>> > >The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>> > >summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>> > >not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>> > >chiefs.
>> > >It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>> > >Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>> > >underground.

>> > >The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>> > >Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>> > >the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>> > >Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?

>> > >The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>> > >these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>> > >the extermination plan of the killers ?

>> > >The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>> > >Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>> > >friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>> > >annihilation.

>> > >The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>> > >six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>> > >Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>> > >attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>> > >to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>> > >great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>> > >would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>> > >the Nazi patronage of his committee.

>> > >When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>> > >soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>> > >of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>> > >agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>> > >the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>> > >Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>> > >Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>> > >An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>> > >Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>> > >and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>> > >condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>> > >and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>> > >from the book of the living.

>> > >One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>> > >put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>> > >only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>> > >area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>> > >rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.

>> > >All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>> > >to evade this truth.

>> > >Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>> > >wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted  quickly
>> > >to another."

>> > >(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>> > >General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).

>> > >Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>> > >Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>> > >'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:

>> > >"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>> > >stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.

>> > >According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>> > >Jews.

>> > >This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>> > >'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>> > >of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>> > >criminals.

>> > >Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>> > >achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>> > >Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.

>> > >Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>> > >Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>> > >Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.

>> > >In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>> > >the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.

>> > >All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>> > >were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi continues:

>> > >"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>> > >when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>> > >the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>> > >Agency and the Jewish World Congress.

>> > >As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>> > >defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>> > >remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.

>> > >The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>> > >criminal.

>> > >The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>> > >testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in  the
>> > >activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>> > >minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>> > >truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.

>> > >Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>> > >stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>> > >declared in the affidavit.

>> > >The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>> > >but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>> > >and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>> > >the good intention of good Becher'.

>> > >It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>> > >his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>> > >World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>> > >exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>> > >of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>> > >contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>> > >sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>> > >was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>> > >Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>> > >given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>> > >in Nuremberg.

>> > >Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>> > >accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>> > >his statements." (ibid)

>> > >Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>> > >libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>> > >accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>> > >partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>> > >ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>> > >pounds as court costs.

>> > >In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>> > >been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.

>> > >Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>> > >completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>> > >matter.

>> > >If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>> > >individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>> > >attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>> > >pointed to much more than that.

>> > >But the story does not end there.






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This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know 
the truth about the willing ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis.

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!!

Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL has been proven to 
be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

As were Rumkowski, and never forget the infamous KASTNER!!
And at least another 50 well documented ZYD KOLLABORATEURS
well documented in the Rigg book!!
 
>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
> wrote:

>It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
>Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
>COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion 
>>wrote:

>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS with
>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>public.

>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>It was not only the KASTNER CASE!!


>>>On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:27:47 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>> wrote:

>>>>It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
>>>>more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

>>>>Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
>>>>ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?


On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
$15.
Reviewed by Sara Powell

It's no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
imits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
coverage in the American media. 

Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters, 
statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents Zionist
cooperration with the Nazis. 

On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
new Jewish nation. 

In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
others written in response. 

These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists and 
fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini?s Italy. 
Brenner?s brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document 
are helpful, as are the glossary and index.

51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for instance, is that
they had a financial deal?Ha?avara?with Germany allowing Jews to
exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of ?nationality? versus
citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
same concept. 

51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term "Holocaust
guilt"  frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
threatened European brethren.

>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on 
Feb.18, 1943:

And when some asked me: 'Can?t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?' I said:
'No!' And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I?m guilty, for the fact
that we don't give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)

However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined to keep
it that way. 

>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,"assimilation" of Jews 
into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable option. 
Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level, not 
a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, ?It is impossible for a man 
to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
own? 
(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not a 
refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening 
sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).

Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.

3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
position of power in the Near East (p. 301).

Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.

Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.

51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives?both Palestinian and
Israeli?in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
examining Zionism.



# 5                           The Kastner Case
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS - 1981

Introduction

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is 
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. 
Those who have, are generally under the impression that 
there is some "controversy" about negotiations he undertook 
for "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military 
equipment," but that he was "fully rehabilitated" by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the 
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few 
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in 
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - 
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly 
deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to 
their brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their 
own lives with the price of silence. 

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke 
for all Jews in Hungary. 

While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is 
still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me 
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian 
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned 
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, "I know of your plans; 
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet."

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. 
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. 
Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this 
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom 
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions" 
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the 
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off 
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for 
future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's 
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. 

This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold 
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the 
Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the 
collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to 
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the 
camps, the price...was not too high for me.

"...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, 
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse. 
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after 
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them 
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

"Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for 
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

"As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity 
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these 
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner 
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his 
blood to achieve his political goal...
'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have 
this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great 
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I 
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner." 
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, 
do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for 
money and military equipment."

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. 
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli 
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the 
Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his 
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist 
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of 
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General 
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

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#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.




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Subject: ZYDS=NAZI KOLABORATEURS - KASTNER, RUMKOWSKI, WIESENTHAL + 51 More!!
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This article is so important, it needs to be reposted and passed on,
so that more and more people around the world will come to know 
the truth about the willing ZYD COLLABORATION with nazis.

Even about the HOLOHOAX, based on zyd lies!!

Now even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL has been proven to 
be a Nazi GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!

As were Rumkowski, and never forget the infamous KASTNER!!
And at least another 50 well documented ZYD KOLLABORATEURS
well documented in the Rigg book!!
 
>On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:44 -0700, Joel Eichmann
> wrote:

>It will not be surprising for researchers in Poland, Russia and even
>Germany and Switzerland, to produce even more evidence of even more
>COLLABORATION between the zionists and their colleagues in Germany!!

>>On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 08:41:32 -0700, dandelion 
>>wrote:

>>Now that more and more research, with supporting documentation, is
>>being made public, documenting the collaboration of the ZIONAZIS with
>>the nazis, slime like Shiksa Sueee Cohen do not want this TRUTH made
>>public.

>>Even German historians such as C. Lange are now making public their
>>findings, to the chagrin of the ZHID COLLABORATORS.

>>It was not only the KASTNER CASE!!


>>>On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:27:47 -0700, Susan Shiksa Cohen
>>> wrote:

>>>>It will not be surprising to find after even more research, that even
>>>>more incidents of ZHID/Nazi COLLABORATION happened!!

>>>>Surely this should cause those countries paying tribute dollars to the
>>>>ZHIDS, to consider demanding repayment?


On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 09:25:52 GMT, c@c.cc wrote:
51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With the Nazis  
By Lenni Brenner, ed. Barricade Books, 2002, 342 pp. List: $22; AET:
$15.
Reviewed by Sara Powell

It's no secret that Zionism embraced political expediency to advance
the cause of carving Eretz-Israel from the land of its native
inhabitants. In his 1983 book, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators,
Lenni Brenner shows that 20th century Zionists observed shockingly few
imits to that expediency. Not surprisingly, the book received little
coverage in the American media. 

Now, in 51 Documents, Brenner has compiled a wide variety of letters, 
statements, articles, and judgements?some of which appeared in his
earlier book?by a broad array of activists and authors, that documents Zionist
cooperration with the Nazis. 

On the face of it, the notion seems absurd. However, Brenner
presents the case?made in many Zionists? own words?that the Nazi
agenda of expelling the Jews from Germany fit nicely with the Zionist
plan for enticing those Jews into settling in Palestine and creating a
new Jewish nation. 

In addition to introductory and concluding chapters, the book is
organized into five sections which lead the reader through early,
pre-Zionist documents; pre-Holocaust ideological factions; the
Holocaust era itself; and a chapter on the Stern Gang and the Nazis.
Readers should note that a few documents are not indicative of
collaboration in and of themselves, but provide the background to
others written in response. 

These latter do indicate levels of collaboration between Zionists and 
fascists, both the Nazis in Germany, and those in Mussolini?s Italy. 
Brenner?s brief explanatory notes at the beginning of each document 
are helpful, as are the glossary and index.

51 Documents assumes a certain knowledge of Zionist history, and
requires a close reading and some deconstructive efforts on the part
of the reader. Those willing to commit the time and effort, however,
are rewarded with some stunning revelations. The reason some Zionists
eschewed the boycott against Hitler?s Germany, for instance, is that
they had a financial deal?Ha?avara?with Germany allowing Jews to
exchange their wealth for goods to be exported to Palestine at less of
a loss, as an incentive to emigrate. Those wondering why Zionists
today are so organized and experienced in their public relations
efforts discover that these battles have been fought before. Moreover,
the section on Nazi and Zionist understandings of ?nationality? versus
citizenship reveals how German and Israeli practices are based on the
same concept. 

51 Documents also sheds a whole new light on the term "Holocaust
guilt"  frequently understood to mean Western, non-Jewish guilt for
not acting against the Holocaust earlier. However, these documents
make it clear that Holocaust guilt began with those Zionists who made
the undoubtedly difficult, but politically expedient choice to place
Eretz-Israel at the top of their priorities, above the lives of their
threatened European brethren.

>From a Zionist Executive Meeting speech by Yitzhak Gruenbaum on 
Feb.18, 1943:

And when some asked me: 'Can?t you give money from Keren Ha Yesod
(Palestine Foundation Fund) to save Jews in the Diaspora?' I said:
'No!' And again I say no....And, because of these things, people
called me an anti-Semite, and concluded that I?m guilty, for the fact
that we don't give ourselves completely to rescue actions. (p. 211)

However difficult it may be, the reader must confront some rather
disturbing conclusions. The most unsettling realization for this
reviewer is that pre-Holocaust Zionists were able to politically align
themselves with the Nazis because both groups fundamentally saw race
as an important dividing line?and, moreover, were determined to keep
it that way. 

>From Vladimir Jabotinsky to Albert Einstein,"assimilation" of Jews 
into the societies in which they lived was not an acceptable option. 
Rather, Jewish nationalism required equality on a national level, not 
a personal one. As Jabotinsky explained, ?It is impossible for a man 
to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his
own? 
(p. 10); in Einstein?s words, ?Palestine is first and foremost not a 
refuge for East European Jews, but the incarnation of a reawakening 
sense of national solidarity? (p. 29).

Finally, David Yisraeli, a member of the Stern Gang, wrote the
following in late 1940, as part of a proposal to Hitler. It was
delivered in 1941 to two German diplomats in Lebanon.

3. The establishment of the historic Jewish state on a national and
totalitarian basis, bound by a treaty with the German Reich, would be
in the interest of a maintained and strengthened future German
position of power in the Near East (p. 301).

Such beliefs, of course, were not limited to Nazis and Zionists.
Scientific and philosophical constructs of the day considered such
differentiation legitimate, and ideas of racial difference?and,
therefore, racial supremacy?were practiced around the world.

Another disturbing conclusion a reader must inevitably face is that
Zionists learned both tactical and political lessons from the Nazis
and that, even today, these lessons are applied to further the Zionist
cause. Although most likely known to potential readers of this book,
another disturbing element is the cover-up of the less than savory
roles of current Israeli leaders, including former prime ministers, in
the terrorist Irgun and Stern Gang just before, during, and after the
Holocaust. Likewise, the succumbing of various U.S. officials to
Zionist pressure is a familiar, but distressing, story.

51 Documents seems to represent a renewed attempt by Brenner to bring
information regarding Zionist collaboration with the Nazis to U.S.
supporters of Israel, as well as to Jews and Muslims, in order to
expand dialogue with knowledge, and save lives?both Palestinian and
Israeli?in the process. Readers of 51 Documents will find it difficult
not to remove the rose colored glasses that so many seem to wear when
examining Zionism.



# 5                           The Kastner Case
Extracted from a pamphlet issued by BAZO-PS - 1981

Introduction

The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is 
that involving Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. 
Those who have, are generally under the impression that 
there is some "controversy" about negotiations he undertook 
for "the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military 
equipment," but that he was "fully rehabilitated" by the
Supreme Court of Israel.

The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the 
British Medical Research Council, was one of the few 
escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in 
February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - 
I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly 
deeds of the war.

This small group of quislings knew what was happening to 
their brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their 
own lives with the price of silence. 

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke 
for all Jews in Hungary. 

While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is 
still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me 
when I escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian 
Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann planned 
to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...
Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, "I know of your plans; 
spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet."

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. 
uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. 
Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this 
little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom 
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions" 
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the 
commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off 
in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for 
future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's 
directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. 

This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold 
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the 
Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the 
collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to 
Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the 
camps, the price...was not too high for me.

"...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, 
Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse. 
While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after 
another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them 
with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

"Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for 
a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

"As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity 
between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these 
immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner 
would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his 
blood to achieve his political goal...
'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have 
this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great 
service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I 
would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner." 
(Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, 
do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for 
money and military equipment."

Are the accusations against Kastner true?

According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. 
When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli 
citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the 
Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his 
views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist 
official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of 
Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General 
of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.

-88-
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Posted by Robert E. Nordlander
nord@powernetonline.com


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Posted by: 
Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
NAMBLA executive Ken McVay.

We  like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
I am together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.

CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases, just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: FlaviaR@verizon.net, especially late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  


For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.





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