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On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:00:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>Canadian Press, and the prestigious national TV program W5,yesterday
>3rd November 1998,  both have confirmed that Israel's killer group
>MOSSAD is still using Canadian passports for the Mossad terrorists.


>What is even more hypocritical, is that the present communist
>government of Canada, supports the criminal activities of the zionist
>state of Israel and the MOSSAD CRIMINALS, with Canadian taxpayer
>money!!
>
>
>The media now report that Canada has one of its spies resident in
>Israel, as permanent liaison with the MOSSAD terrorists!!!
>
>
>On 12 Oct 1997 16:22:24 GMT, intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:
>
>>Help the assassins, heck no !
>
>>THEY HAVE ALL BEEN ACCEPTED INTO CANADA AS REFUGEES.
>
>>We love all the vermin of the world !  
>
>>Especially criminals !!!
>
>Such as the JEW Mafia from Russia, dope dealers from Viet Nam, faggots
>spreading AIDS from Poland, and white collar criminals from Israel,
>plus lots of other bogus refugees!!!



From sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy Mon Nov 23 19:35:26 EST 1998
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Subject: Re: JEWS had Cross removed from cenotaph for Remembrance Day!!!
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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:43:07 -0400, Fishhawk 
wrote:
>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:45:43 -0500, Sandor Kerekes 
>> wrote:

>> That he did not like the TRUTH about the cursed Christkillers on
>> Internet.....

>> >sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 05:16:58 +1100, "AussiCro" 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> DO  YOU SUPPORT THE ANTI-CHRISTIAN ACTIONS OF THE CURSED CHRISTKILLERS
>> >> - THE JEWS??

Perhaps you should learn to READ, and then read the following:

On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:45:43 -0500, Sandor Kerekes 
wrote:

That he did not like the TRUTH about the cursed Christkillers on
Internet.....


>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 05:16:58 +1100, "AussiCro" 
>> wrote:

>> HOW CAN ONE DENY THE TRUTH, WHICH HAPPENED ONLY LAST YEAR AND WAS
>> PUBLICISED WORLDWIDE?
>>
>> DO  YOU SUPPORT THE ANTI-CHRISTIAN ACTIONS OF THE CURSED CHRISTKILLERS
>> - THE JEWS??
>>
>> >sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote in message
>> >>>On Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:00:33 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>> >>>wrote:

>> >>>>OyVay & NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just do not like for the world to know how
>> >>>>rotten, and anti-Christian the cursed JEWS really are!!!
>>
>> >>>>In Canada, the damned JEWS even had the Cross removed from the
>> >>>>cenotaph, for the Remembrance Day ceremonies!!
>>
>> >>>>Article attached.
>>
>> >>>>There has been worldwide revulsion, and complaints about the damned
>> >>>>JEWS for doing this.
>>
>> >>>>On 26 Nov 1997 04:07:29 GMT, jbellingxx@aol.com (Jbellingxx) wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>Why does Nizkor list ISP's on their Web-site for everyone who disagrees
>> >with
>> >>>>>their opinions?  Why do they do that?  Why do they list instructions on
>> >how to
>> >>>>>mail bomb people who disagree with their opinions-these champions of
>> >social
>> >>>>>justice and free speech?  Sing to "Happy days are here again:
>>
>> >>>>>McCarthy Days are here again
>> >>>>>The Nizkooks strike but you won't know when
>> >>>>>get a mail bomb sent from yer old pal Ken
>> >>>>>Nizkook days are here again
>>
>> >>>>>They'll publicize your ISP's
>> >>>>>They'd like to have you on your knees
>> >>>>>They're busier than a nest of bees
>> >>>>>Nizkook days are here again
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>protect your precious CD rom
>> >>>>>Watch out before you are mail bombed
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>They love to put in false complaints
>> >>>>>Beware of lies the Nizkook paints
>> >>>>>Within this group one will find no saints
>> >>>>>Nizkook days are here again....
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Ach!  I'm a song writer!  Move over, Irving Berlin!
>> >>>>>Ich bin noch ein Berliner!


>> >>>In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>> >>>Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.

>> >>>Len Dolgoy, past president of the Jewish Federation of Edmonton, and
>> >>>also the regional representative on the Canadian Jewish Congress,  had
>> >>>arranged for the removal of the Cross at the Remembrance day
>> >>>celebrations.
>>
>> >>>The Strathcona Legion, representing victims and their families fielded
>> >>>many complaints, particularly from war widows and others who had lost
>> >>>family members.
>>
>> >>>Mind you, the same JEWS do not mind that they will be having a 25 foot
>> >>>scrap iron menorah cluttering up the lawn in front of the provincial
>> >>>Parliament Buildings, to supposedly celebrate the JEW holiday of
>> >>>Hannukah!!!!
>>
>> >>>It seems that the JEWs can have their religious symbol in front of the
>> >>>public, but the Cross, representing the millions of Christians who
>> >>>died, is not to be permitted!!!!
>>
>> sven 88




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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:45:34 GMT,
anthony@nospam.united-general.demon.co.uk (Anthony Zachary) wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:18:04 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>>Thanks for republishing all the jokes.
>>People need a joke, so they can laugh at their misfortunes.
>
>Although laughing tends to be the result of funny jokes.
>
>However, these ones really have whiskers on. In brackets afterwards, I
>indicate the national/regional group about whom I heard the joke
>first.
>
>[OBVIOUS SUBTEXT SPELLED OUT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO ARE A LITTLE
>SLOW AT GETTING THIS SORT OF THING:]
>
>Funny how patterns of this sort of thing recur over and over again.
>Perhaps the Jews are just another ethnic grouping, not a worldwide
>conspiracy.
>
>>>> >How was copper wiring invented?
>>>> >Two Jews fighting over a penny!
>
>[Krakowians]
>
>>>> >How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
>>>> >They put parking meters on the roof!
>
>[Scots]
>
>>>> >Why aren't Jews attacked by sharks?
>>>> >Professional courtesy!
>
>[Lawyers]
>
>>>> >Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
>>>> >Let one in, and he'll keep the rest out.
>
>[Poles]
>
>>>> >How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
>>>> >She's the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!
>
>[Scots]
>
>>>> >How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
>>>> >Marry her!
>
>[Laywers]
>
>>>> >What's the definition of a queer Jew?
>>>> >Someone that likes girls more then money.
>
>[Scots]
>
>>>> >What's the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
>>>> >A vulture waits until you're dead to eat your heart out!
>
>[Lawyers]
>
>etc., can't be bothered with the rest as they appear to be repeating


You perhaps should have included some of your repertoire regarding
LAWYERS? Mind you, most liars seem to be Jews, so what would be the
difference?


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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site. 
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>groups. 
>
>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable. 
>
>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>
>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>
>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists. 
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>forgotten. 
>
>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>be removed. 
>>
>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>
>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>
>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>the moment.'' 
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold. 
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>
>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>
>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>
>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>
>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>Jewish community.
sven88



On 17 Nov 1998 15:22:35 GMT, gupik@aol.com (Gupik) wrote:

>Dziekuje Panom: Super Kaluzy i Pankiewczowi za odpowiedz. Dzieki za filtr ale
>mam juz cos takiego.Jak to ze mna bywa mam watpliwosci. Delikatnie opierdolil
>mnie Delinternet ( czy jakis tam inny deliryk) piszac ze "nie musze czytac ,
>chyba ze jestem sluzbowo". Odpisalem mu ale pozwalam sobie jeszcze raz zauwazyc
>ze filtrowanie tego typu wiadomosci  nie jest najlepszym rozwiazanie z punktu
>widzenia calego forum. Jak widac Sbjarnasson czy Grosvenor nie jest Polakiem.
>Umieszcza te postingi/ wymiociny z regularnoscia zegarka. Nikt z ta menda nie
>wdaje sie w dyskusje a on dalej swoje. Jego obecnosc na tym forum dla
>postronnego obserwatora jest bardzo dobrym przykladem "polskiego
>antysemityzmu". Postingi sa zawsze po angielsku. Jak sadze on nie oczekuje
>odpowiedzi On po prostu chce tu byc. Mozemy go oczywiscie indywidualnie
>filtrowac ale to nie zalatwi sprawy.Na koniec do mojego ukochanego DELIRYKA: ja
>nie jestem tu sluzbowo !!!! (od tego sa inni) ale kurwa Podpisujaca sie
>pseudonimem GROSVENOR lub SBjarnson moze byc !
>I to by bylo na tyle AMEN.



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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:42:41 GMT, sbjarnason@ wanted to keep the
discussion going by writing:
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site. 
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>groups. 
>
>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable. 
>
>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>
>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>
>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists. 
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>forgotten. 
>
>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>be removed. 
>>
>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>
>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>
>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>the moment.'' 
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold. 
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>
>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>
>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>
>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>
>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>Jewish community.
sven88


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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:52:08 -0800, "M. Rahme" 
wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org decided
>to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>>In article <353fd933.625226@news.datanet.ab.ca>, orquemada@inquisition.org
>>>>writes:>>
>>>>n the azi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>
>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>
>Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>weren't illegal.
>
>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>reports to prove this!!!
>
>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference.
>
>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>other references  below, cited.
>
>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>>Sir,
>>>  You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>an open liar?
>>>                               irgun43
>
>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote:
>>>> >Yesss!
>
>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again
>BOYS)
>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who
>feel
>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves s
>>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”>>
>>>>> >So, the Jews are nothig but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>
>>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>>
>>>>
>tp://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hit
>num=0
>
>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:
>>
>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their>>>> >>loyalty to
>Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>>
>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>>>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945
>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>> deportations."]
>
>                         ____________________________
>
>>>> Or how about this?
>
>>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army
>>
>>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge and approval.
>
>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>> Aryan.''
>
>>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>
>>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>
>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>>>> Sources:
>
>>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>
>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>> by Reuters
>
>>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>
>>>> See also:
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>
>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>> served in Nazi army
>
>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>> Los Angeles Times
>
>>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>> of Holocaust history.
>
>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>
>>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>> whole story.]
>
>



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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com



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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:17:20 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 05:38:17 GMT, nails@pacific.net.SPAMMERSDIE.sg
>>(Ken!!!) wrote:
>>>there are idiot jews and there are idiot anti-jews...
>>>
>>>what is scary is the number if idiots willing to listen to these 2
>>>factions of idiots and promote violence...
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:11:56 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>>Those who wish to support the Christkillers, the cursed JEWS, also
>>>>wish to rewrite history.
>>
>>>>They do not want the present survivors around the world to remember
>>>>that 100 million have been killed in the last 80 years by the JEW-led
>>>>communists!! This is well documented in the recently released book in
>>>>France.
>>
>>Quite apart from the more than 30 million people massacred by the
>>JEW-led soviets in the 1930's in the Ukraine.
>
>
>From someone@somewhere.com Thu Nov 13 07:29:56 1997
>
>Subject: OyVay Admits JEW COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>
>
>The key reason OyVay and NAZIKOR/NIZKOR refuse to discuss the 66
>Questions about the HOLOHOAX, is because they must hide the truth
>about the more than 100 MILLIONS the JEW-led communists have murdered,
>in less than 80 years!!!!
>
>
>On 12 Nov 1997 01:51:13 GMT, rwhita8200@aol.com (RWhita8200) wrote:
>
>>>Subject: COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>>>From: alangrist@aol.com (ALAN GRIST)
>>>Date: Mon, Nov 10, 1997 18:15 EST
>
>>>French writers row over "communism killed l00m" claim
>>>            FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN PARIS
>
>>>A BOOK by a team of French historians,  described  as  the
>>>first global accounting of the victims of communism, has
>>>estimated that in this century Communist dictators, regimes
>>>and  movements  have been responsible for the deaths of
>>>up to 100 million people.
>
>>> The 850-page Black Book of Communism - Crimes, Terror  
>>>and  Repression,  by  11 senior French researchers and
>>>published  to  coincide  with yesterday's 80th anniversary
>>>of the Bolshevik Revolution, has triggered a fresh ideologi-
>>>cal battle.
>
>>>The writers have come up with  a  final  estimate  that
>>>communism claimed about 65 million  lives  in  China,  20
>>>million in the Soviet Union, two million in Cambodia, two
>>>million in North Korea,  1.7 Million in Africa, one million
>>>in  Vietnam,  one million in Eastern Europe and 150,000 in
>>>South America. 
>
>>>In a polemical introduction, Stephane Courtois, the chief
>>>editor and co-ordinator of the project,  argued  that  mass 
>>>murder and terror have been central characteristics of com-
>>>munism. "The facts are stubborn," he writes. "They show that 
>>>the Communist regimes committed crimes against   about  100  million
>>>people, compared to about 25 million for the Nazis."   
>>> Some of M Courtois's fellow authors  however, have taken
>>>issue  both  with his  highly charged conclusions and with
>
>>   But there's no MONEY in these victims of Communism, so who cares?
>>
>>Bob Whitaker
>
>
>And do not ever FORGET, that the communists were mainly damn JEWS!!!!
>
>



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On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:34:46 +0000, "Dickey Hard %=====> - $$$$"
 wrote:
>(Heiden, Konrad. Der Fuehrer. Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company. 1944.
>pp. 1-18)
>
>" ... This much was true, that in 1897 in Basel the Jewish Nationalist
>Movement of the Zionists was born. The goal of this group, to put it
>simply,
>was to lead the Jews back again to Palestine; to state it more exactly,
>to create for those Jews who were leading an intolerable life of
>oppression, especially in Russia, a 'legally assured homestead' in
>Palestine. In order to disappear in that little corner on the eastern
>shore of
>the Mediterranean they had, as Theodor Herzi, the founder of the
>movement, put it, 'to make the Jewish problem ... a question of world
>politics ... "

>"The real purpose of Holocaust revisionism is to make National Socialism
>an acceptable  political alternative again."



On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:54:23 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 05:38:17 GMT, nails@pacific.net.SPAMMERSDIE.sg
>(Ken!!!) wrote:
>>there are idiot jews and there are idiot anti-jews...
>>
>>what is scary is the number if idiots willing to listen to these 2
>>factions of idiots and promote violence...
>
>
>>On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:11:56 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>>Those who wish to support the Christkillers, the cursed JEWS, also
>>>wish to rewrite history.
>
>>>They do not want the present survivors around the world to remember
>>>that 100 million have been killed in the last 80 years by the JEW-led
>>>communists!! This is well documented in the recently released book in
>>>France.
>
>Quite apart from the more than 30 million people massacred by the
>JEW-led soviets in the 1930's in the Ukraine.


>From someone@somewhere.com Thu Nov 13 07:29:56 1997

Subject: OyVay Admits JEW COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!


The key reason OyVay and NAZIKOR/NIZKOR refuse to discuss the 66
Questions about the HOLOHOAX, is because they must hide the truth
about the more than 100 MILLIONS the JEW-led communists have murdered,
in less than 80 years!!!!


On 12 Nov 1997 01:51:13 GMT, rwhita8200@aol.com (RWhita8200) wrote:

>>Subject: COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>>From: alangrist@aol.com (ALAN GRIST)
>>Date: Mon, Nov 10, 1997 18:15 EST

>>French writers row over "communism killed l00m" claim
>>            FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN PARIS

>>A BOOK by a team of French historians,  described  as  the
>>first global accounting of the victims of communism, has
>>estimated that in this century Communist dictators, regimes
>>and  movements  have been responsible for the deaths of
>>up to 100 million people.

>> The 850-page Black Book of Communism - Crimes, Terror  
>>and  Repression,  by  11 senior French researchers and
>>published  to  coincide  with yesterday's 80th anniversary
>>of the Bolshevik Revolution, has triggered a fresh ideologi-
>>cal battle.

>>The writers have come up with  a  final  estimate  that
>>communism claimed about 65 million  lives  in  China,  20
>>million in the Soviet Union, two million in Cambodia, two
>>million in North Korea,  1.7 Million in Africa, one million
>>in  Vietnam,  one million in Eastern Europe and 150,000 in
>>South America. 

>>In a polemical introduction, Stephane Courtois, the chief
>>editor and co-ordinator of the project,  argued  that  mass 
>>murder and terror have been central characteristics of com-
>>munism. "The facts are stubborn," he writes. "They show that 
>>the Communist regimes committed crimes against   about  100  million
>>people, compared to about 25 million for the Nazis."   
>> Some of M Courtois's fellow authors  however, have taken
>>issue  both  with his  highly charged conclusions and with

>   But there's no MONEY in these victims of Communism, so who cares?
>
>Bob Whitaker


And do not ever FORGET, that the communists were mainly damn JEWS!!!!






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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:01:17 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:44:09 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>And don't forget the murders of the UN troops in Lebanon by the JEWS;
>>
>>And don't  forget the genocide of the unarmed civilians at the Q'ana
>>refugee camp by the damn Israelis.
>
>
>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:17:05 -0700, Clancy
>> wrote:
>>
>>>someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>> 
>>>> And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>> Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>> gangster!!!
>>
>>
>>>Zionist  terrorist acts from 1939-1996 - part I
>>
>>>1939 
>>>Haganah blew up the Iraqi oil pipeline near Haifa palestine. Moshe Dayan was one of 
>>>the participant in this act. The technique was used again in 1947 at least 4 times.
>>
>>>August 20, 1937-June 29, 1939
>>>During this period, Zionist carrtied out a series of attacks against Arab buses, 
>>>resulting in the seath of 24 persons and wonding 25 others. They are the Master of 
>>>killing people on buses.
>>
>>>Nov.25, 1940
>>>S.S. Patria blown up by Jewish Terrorists in Haifa Harbor, Killing 268 illegal Jewish 
>>>immigrants.
>>
>>>Nov. 6 1944
>>>Zionist Terrorist of Stern gang* assassinated the British Minister Resident in the 
>>>Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
>>
>>>July 22, 1946
>>>Zionist Terrorist blew up the King david Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central 
>>>offices of the civilian administarion of the Governemnt of Palestine, Killing and 
>>>injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun gangs claimed responsibility for this 
>>>criminal act, but subsequentevidence indicated that boith the Haganah and the Jewish 
>>>Agency were involved.
>>
>>>October 1, 1946
>>>The british Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by a bomb explosions, for which Irgun 
>>>cliam responsibility.
>>
>>>June 1947
>>>Letters sent to British Cabnit Minister were found to contain Bombs.
>>
>>>September 3, 1947
>>>A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting 
>>>room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs.( The  
>>>Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8
>>
>>>December 11, 1947
>>>Six Arabs were kiled and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab 
>>>buses in haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and anothers injured in an attack by armed 
>>>Zionist on Arab coastal village near Haifa.
>>
>>>Dec. 13 1947
>>>Zionist terrorist believed to be memeber of Irgun Zvia Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and 
>>>wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda Area. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown 
>>>in an Arab market-place near Damascus Gate; in Jaffa bombs were thrown into an Arab 
>>>cafe; in the Arab village of Al Yahudia near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack 
>>>with mortars and automatic weapons.
>>
>>>Dec. 19, 1947
>>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the 
>>>ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah 
>>>admitted responsibility for the attack.
>>
>>>Dec. 29, 1947
>>>Two British contables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus 
>>>Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun Jews threw a bomb from a taxi.
>>
>>>Dec. 30, 1947
>>>A mixed forces of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village 
>>>of Ballad al Shaikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.
>>
>>>1947-1948
>>>Over 700,000 Plaestine Arabs were uprooted from their beloved homes and land in 
>>>Palestine; since than have been denied the right to return or been given compensation 
>>>for their property. After their expolsion, the "Zionist Israel terrorist Armies" 
>>>razed to the ground 385 Arabs villages ad towns out of a total of 475, ands 
>>>oblitrated their remains. These Are "The GOD Chosen People" who commit murder in the 
>>>name of Judiasm.
>>
>>>January 1, 1948
>>>Haganah terrorists attacked attacked a village on the slop of mount Camel; 17 Arabs 
>>>were killed and 33 were wounded.
>>
>>>January 4, 1948
>>>Haganah terrorist wearing British Army Uniform penetrated into the center of Jaffa 
>>>and blew up the Serai(the old Turkish Governemnt House) which was used as a 
>>>headqaurter of the Arab national Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 
>>>98 others.
>>
>>>January 5, 1948 
>>>The Arab-owned semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blowm up, killing 20 persons, among 
>>>them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this 
>>>outrage.
>>
>>>January 7, 1948
>>>seventeen Arabs were kjilled by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them 
>>>while trying to escape. further casualties, including the murder of a British officer 
>>>near Hebron, were reported from different part of the country.
>>
>>>Jan. 16, 1948
>>>Zionists blew up three Arabs building. in the first, 8 children between the ages of 
>>>18 month and 12 years, died.
>>
>>>Dec. 13, 1947- February 10, 1948
>>>seven incident of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilian in cafe and markets, killing 
>>>138 and wounding 271 others. during this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. 
>>>Zionist mind passenger trains on at least 4 occasions killing 93 persons and wounding 
>>>161 others.
>>
>>>Feb. 15 1948
>>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, 
>>>killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
>>
>>>March 3, 1948
>>>Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa(a 7 story block of 
>>>flat and shops) by zionist who drove an army lorry uo to the building and escaped 
>>>before the detonation of 400 lb. of explosive; casualties numbered 11 Arabs ans 3 
>>>Armanians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Jewish Gang claimed responsibility of the 
>>>crime.
>>
>>>March 22, 1948
>>>A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 
>>>others. Four memeber of the Stern Jewish Gang drove two lorry-loaded of explosive 
>>>into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosive.
>>
>>>March 31, 1948
>>>The Cairo_Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month by an 
>>>electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 
>>>others.
>>
>>>April 9, 1948
>>>A combined forces of Irgun Zvai Leumi and ther Stern Jewish Gang, supported by the 
>>>Palmach forces captured the Arab village of Deir Yassine and killed than 200 unarmed 
>>>civilians, including countless women and childern. Older men and young women were and 
>>>paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were than 
>>>shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
>>
>>>April 16, 1948
>>>Zionist attacked the former British army camp at tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs 
>>>there.
>>
>>>April 19 1948
>>>Fourteen arabs were killed in a hous in Tiberias which was blown up by Zionist 
>>>terrorist Jews.
>>
>>>May 11, 1948
>>>A letter Bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Baker, former commanding Officer in Plaestine, 
>>>was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
>>
>>>April 25, 1948- may 13, 1948
>>>Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and 
>>>Haganah Terrorist Jews. They stripped and carried away everything they could, 
>>>destroying what they could not take with them.
>>
>>>Sept. 17 1948
>>>Count Folk Bernadotte, UN Mediator in Palestine was assassinated by member of the 
>>>Stern Jewish Gang in the Zionist controlled sector of Jerusalem. Bernadotte's aide 
>>>Col. serot was also killed and murdered by Jewish terrorist.
>>
>>>Nov. 1948
>>>The Arab village of Iqrit and Birim were attacked and destroyed, killing and injuring 
>>>countless unarmed Arabs, including women and children. All the Arabs were forcibly 
>>>expelled from their homes and mother land Palestine, Know today as the artificial 
>>>state of zionist Israel.
>>sven88



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:14:11 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught  dealing drugs - this
>time inside a prison!!!
>
>Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
>Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
>balloons of cocaine and marijuana.
>
>He is a former head of the "who's Who in canadian Jewry", and has been
>a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.
>
>
>
>On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>Christ.
>
>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>business.
>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>
>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>
>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>launder  and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
>narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
>synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 
>
>The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>together a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
>representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 
>
> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>Colombian drug lords. 
>
>"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
>Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>announcing the charges. 
>
>Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 
>
>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 
>
>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
>charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
>taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
>synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
>writing checks to drug traffickers. 
>
>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>
>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 
>
>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>Shel Shulem. 
>
>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
>Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
>Family of Mexico Building." 
>
>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>named in the federal complaint. 
>
>The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>officials said. 
>
>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
>conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 
>
>Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
>have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>launder. 
>
>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>
>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>Shulem.
>
>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
>out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
>the federal complaint said. 
>
>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 
>
>Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
>drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>================================================================================
>The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                           News Bureau and Archives Online
>
>
>
>On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:20:49 +0100, "Ulf Alexandersson"
> wrote:
>
>>iearn wrote:
>>>> Jews are greedy, they murdered Jesus, now Jews murdering Arabs.
>>>> What next?
>>>
>>>Next!?  You and Me; just wait they claim that they are the chosen
>>>people.
>>
>>
>>Something reminds me of Manifest Destiny. People who believed in that caused
>>the native-american genocides. In another shape, continued directly with
>>Hiroshima, Corea, Vietnam. Indirectly to mass-slaughter in Latin America,
>>East-Timor, Laos.. Jesus was a Jew, and I think it's tragic how christianity
>>has caused the hostility towards Jews throughout history. I don't like their
>>treatment of palestinians, but that is definately NOT a reason to support
>>anti-semitism.
>
>
>
>How can it be anti-semitism, when one supports the descendants of Ham,
>being the Arabs?
>
>Opposing Zionist Jews is not the same as anti-semitism, despite what
>the Christkillers would claim.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:01:44 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:39:30 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>
>>>Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught  dealing drugs - this
>>>time inside a prison!!!
>>>
>>>Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
>>>Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
>>>balloons of cocaine and marijuana.
>>>
>>>He is a former head of the "who's Who in canadian Jewry", and has been
>>>a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>>>
>>>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>>>Christ.
>>>
>>>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>>>business.
>>>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>>>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>>
>>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>>
>>>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>>>rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>>>launder  and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
>>>narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
>>>synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 
>>>
>>>The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>>>together a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
>>>representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>>>purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>>>ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 
>>>
>>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>>>of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>>>modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>>>American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>>>Colombian drug lords. 
>>>
>>>"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
>>>Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>>>announcing the charges. 
>>>
>>>Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>>>Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>>>Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>>>before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>>>to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>>>5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>>>federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 
>>>
>>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>>>320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>>>released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>>>complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>>>custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>>>the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 
>>>
>>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>>>court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
>>>charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
>>>taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
>>>synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
>>>writing checks to drug traffickers. 
>>>
>>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>>>name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>>>Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>>>than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>>>transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>>>
>>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>>>have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>>>Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>>>drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>>>-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>>>requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>>and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 
>>>
>>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>>>listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>>>people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>>>about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>>>Shel Shulem. 
>>>
>>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>>>front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
>>>Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
>>>Family of Mexico Building." 
>>>
>>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>>>were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>>>would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>>>named in the federal complaint. 
>>>
>>>The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>>>-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>>officials said. 
>>>
>>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>>>techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>>>which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>>>deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
>>>conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 
>>>
>>>Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>>>Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>>>of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>>>Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
>>>have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>>>launder. 
>>>
>>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>>>and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>>>and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>>>
>>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>>>later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>>>Shulem.
>>>
>>>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
>>>out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
>>>the federal complaint said. 
>>>
>>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>>>formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>>>Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>>>laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 
>>>
>>>Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
>>>drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>>>Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>>>a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>>================================================================================
>>>The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:35:35 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote
>On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:17:37 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>>On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:19:23 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:06:54 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> dddddddddddddd
>>>>> 
>>>>> Grigori, if you do not know or do not believe me, please read the
>>>>> monograph about Lazar Kaganowich by his American cousin titled The Wolf
>>>>> of the Kremlin.  Stven eventually was given permission by Brezhnev to
>>>>> visit his uncle in Moscow.  Look in Stevens book at the photo of his
>>>>> aunt Rosa and unkle Mikhail Kaganovich who was shot with the blessing of
>>>>> Lazar and Rosa for treason which was sympathy for Israel.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mikhail learned zionsim on his trip in USA during WW II and he was
>>>>> commissar of Soviet aviation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pawlikowski deserves from you apology, but I doubut he will get it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some Jews are simply michigene
>>>>> ---------
>>>>> RAgan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Grigori Khaskin wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > PAWLIKOWSKI (polhistsoc@earthlink.net) wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > : Klan of Kaganoviches, Soviet Jews who ran USSR at that time (Rosa
>>>>> > : Kaganowich, M.D. being at that time Stalins wife) felt scorned by
>>>>> > : Israel.  Hell know no furry as the woman scorned!
>>>>> >
>>>>> > What interesting here, that all it is lie, but the name of Lazar
>>>>> > Kaganovich.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > #1. Kaganovich had no "clan", especially one who was running USSR.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Better you, patologycal judofob, invent something new, remotely close to
>>>>> > reality, like "Georgian Djugashvili when studied in christian seminary was
>>>>> > forcefullyu converted to Judaizm and than under name Stalin
>>>>> > successfully tried to kill all polish christians worldwide".
>>>>> >
>>>>> > #2. STalin never had a wife with the name "Rosa", not talking about Rosa
>>>>> > Kaganovich, M.D. because:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > #3. Lazar Kaganovich NEVER have a sister Rosa Kaganovich.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That lies you are repeating was put in circulation with Russian
>>>>> > antisemitic blacj hundred organization "Pamiat" in the end of 80th and
>>>>> > was exposed countless times as an open lie in Russian periodicals.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > #4. Affiliation of patologycal commie Kaganovich and Israel came from the
>>>>> > same garbage dumpster.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > #5. Stalin with the help of his henchmen Beria at the time was preparing
>>>>> > the wholesale deportation Jews to death camps in Siberia, and started to
>>>>> > unfold so-called "Case of Jewish doctors", implicating all Jewish M.D. who
>>>>> > worked in Kremlin hospital killing of communist party leaders admitted to
>>>>> > hospital. It had to become a spark to deportation. Thanx G-d the bastard
>>>>> > died himself on Purim night and deportation was aborted.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Does it look, like that scenario was running by a jews? Dear
>>>>> > Padlikowsky? Maybe unexisted M.D. Kaganovich tried to get rid of worldwide
>>>>> > known M.D. in Moscow?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You are laughable, moron.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > G.K.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > : USSR hoped to control Arab oilpipes then going  through Israel.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Pipelines THROUGH Israel? Pumping oil there in 1940th? Time to call Mr.
>>>>> > Padlikowsky a veterinarian, and teacher in geography.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > : USSR staged Kielce and other pogroms to stock Palestine with Soviet
>>>>> > : Jews  but these indoctrinated Jews did not bother with USSR once in
>>>>> > : Israel.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > No, no. Glory of Kielce is a badge of honor on your antisemitic mighty
>>>>> > chest.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > But what pogrom in Kielce has in common with stocking of Palestine with
>>>>> > SOVIET jews? Especially when all info about Kielce was immediately
>>>>> > SUPPRESSED for ten's of years?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Why it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get from Russia to Israel all that years??
>>>>> > And it was a multitude of jews who was refused an exit visas and instead
>>>>> > of Near East were sent to Far North?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > : Elementary HErmie HH
>>>>> > : ---------
>>>>> > : Pawlikowski
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Unfortunately, that tipe of lies almost never elementary. despite such a
>>>>> > lies have been produced by thou who have one convolution in the brain, and
>>>>> > even this one was straiten by Waffen SS side-cap. Unfortunately a rebuke
>>>>> > required and time had been waisted for such an imbecile.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > G.K.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It seems that the Russian JEWs, and their lackeys have already forgotten
>>>>who established the Soviet secret Police, forerunners of the dreaded KGB
>>>>- it was that great JEW Felix DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>>>
>>>>It was the secret police that engaged in genocide - first on the
>>>>Russians, then the more than 30 million Ukrainians murdered by the JEW
>>>>Kommissars!!!
>>>>
>>>>How many tens of millions bodies does it take to REMEMBER - that it was
>>>>the SOVIET JEWS who first engaged in genocide?



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:01:17 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>And don't forget the murders of the UN troops in Lebanon by the JEWS;
>>
>>And don't  forget the genocide of the unarmed civilians at the Q'ana
>>refugee camp by the damn Israelis.
>
>
>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:17:05 -0700, Clancy
>> wrote:
>>
>>>someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>> 
>>>> And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>> Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>> gangster!!!
>>
>>
>>>Zionist  terrorist acts from 1939-1996 - part I
>>
>>>1939 
>>>Haganah blew up the Iraqi oil pipeline near Haifa palestine. Moshe Dayan was one of 
>>>the participant in this act. The technique was used again in 1947 at least 4 times.
>>
>>>August 20, 1937-June 29, 1939
>>>During this period, Zionist carrtied out a series of attacks against Arab buses, 
>>>resulting in the seath of 24 persons and wonding 25 others. They are the Master of 
>>>killing people on buses.
>>
>>>Nov.25, 1940
>>>S.S. Patria blown up by Jewish Terrorists in Haifa Harbor, Killing 268 illegal Jewish 
>>>immigrants.
>>
>>>Nov. 6 1944
>>>Zionist Terrorist of Stern gang* assassinated the British Minister Resident in the 
>>>Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
>>
>>>July 22, 1946
>>>Zionist Terrorist blew up the King david Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central 
>>>offices of the civilian administarion of the Governemnt of Palestine, Killing and 
>>>injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun gangs claimed responsibility for this 
>>>criminal act, but subsequentevidence indicated that boith the Haganah and the Jewish 
>>>Agency were involved.
>>
>>>October 1, 1946
>>>The british Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by a bomb explosions, for which Irgun 
>>>cliam responsibility.
>>
>>>June 1947
>>>Letters sent to British Cabnit Minister were found to contain Bombs.
>>
>>>September 3, 1947
>>>A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting 
>>>room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs.( The  
>>>Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8
>>
>>>December 11, 1947
>>>Six Arabs were kiled and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab 
>>>buses in haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and anothers injured in an attack by armed 
>>>Zionist on Arab coastal village near Haifa.
>>
>>>Dec. 13 1947
>>>Zionist terrorist believed to be memeber of Irgun Zvia Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and 
>>>wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda Area. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown 
>>>in an Arab market-place near Damascus Gate; in Jaffa bombs were thrown into an Arab 
>>>cafe; in the Arab village of Al Yahudia near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack 
>>>with mortars and automatic weapons.
>>
>>>Dec. 19, 1947
>>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the 
>>>ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah 
>>>admitted responsibility for the attack.
>>
>>>Dec. 29, 1947
>>>Two British contables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus 
>>>Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun Jews threw a bomb from a taxi.
>>
>>>Dec. 30, 1947
>>>A mixed forces of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village 
>>>of Ballad al Shaikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.
>>
>>>1947-1948
>>>Over 700,000 Plaestine Arabs were uprooted from their beloved homes and land in 
>>>Palestine; since than have been denied the right to return or been given compensation 
>>>for their property. After their expolsion, the "Zionist Israel terrorist Armies" 
>>>razed to the ground 385 Arabs villages ad towns out of a total of 475, ands 
>>>oblitrated their remains. These Are "The GOD Chosen People" who commit murder in the 
>>>name of Judiasm.
>>
>>>January 1, 1948
>>>Haganah terrorists attacked attacked a village on the slop of mount Camel; 17 Arabs 
>>>were killed and 33 were wounded.
>>
>>>January 4, 1948
>>>Haganah terrorist wearing British Army Uniform penetrated into the center of Jaffa 
>>>and blew up the Serai(the old Turkish Governemnt House) which was used as a 
>>>headqaurter of the Arab national Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 
>>>98 others.
>>
>>>January 5, 1948 
>>>The Arab-owned semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blowm up, killing 20 persons, among 
>>>them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this 
>>>outrage.
>>
>>>January 7, 1948
>>>seventeen Arabs were kjilled by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them 
>>>while trying to escape. further casualties, including the murder of a British officer 
>>>near Hebron, were reported from different part of the country.
>>
>>>Jan. 16, 1948
>>>Zionists blew up three Arabs building. in the first, 8 children between the ages of 
>>>18 month and 12 years, died.
>>
>>>Dec. 13, 1947- February 10, 1948
>>>seven incident of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilian in cafe and markets, killing 
>>>138 and wounding 271 others. during this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. 
>>>Zionist mind passenger trains on at least 4 occasions killing 93 persons and wounding 
>>>161 others.
>>
>>>Feb. 15 1948
>>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, 
>>>killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
>>
>>>March 3, 1948
>>>Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa(a 7 story block of 
>>>flat and shops) by zionist who drove an army lorry uo to the building and escaped 
>>>before the detonation of 400 lb. of explosive; casualties numbered 11 Arabs ans 3 
>>>Armanians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Jewish Gang claimed responsibility of the 
>>>crime.
>>
>>>March 22, 1948
>>>A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 
>>>others. Four memeber of the Stern Jewish Gang drove two lorry-loaded of explosive 
>>>into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosive.
>>
>>>March 31, 1948
>>>The Cairo_Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month by an 
>>>electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 
>>>others.
>>
>>>April 9, 1948
>>>A combined forces of Irgun Zvai Leumi and ther Stern Jewish Gang, supported by the 
>>>Palmach forces captured the Arab village of Deir Yassine and killed than 200 unarmed 
>>>civilians, including countless women and childern. Older men and young women were and 
>>>paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were than 
>>>shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
>>
>>>April 16, 1948
>>>Zionist attacked the former British army camp at tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs 
>>>there.
>>
>>>April 19 1948
>>>Fourteen arabs were killed in a hous in Tiberias which was blown up by Zionist 
>>>terrorist Jews.
>>
>>>May 11, 1948
>>>A letter Bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Baker, former commanding Officer in Plaestine, 
>>>was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
>>
>>>April 25, 1948- may 13, 1948
>>>Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and 
>>>Haganah Terrorist Jews. They stripped and carried away everything they could, 
>>>destroying what they could not take with them.
>>
>>>Sept. 17 1948
>>>Count Folk Bernadotte, UN Mediator in Palestine was assassinated by member of the 
>>>Stern Jewish Gang in the Zionist controlled sector of Jerusalem. Bernadotte's aide 
>>>Col. serot was also killed and murdered by Jewish terrorist.
>>
>>>Nov. 1948
>>>The Arab village of Iqrit and Birim were attacked and destroyed, killing and injuring 
>>>countless unarmed Arabs, including women and children. All the Arabs were forcibly 
>>>expelled from their homes and mother land Palestine, Know today as the artificial 
>>>state of zionist Israel.
>>sven88



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:02:37 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:42 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>
>>>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>
>>>>DAILY MAIL
>>>>Monday June 15 1998
>>>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>>>to clear his name.
>>
>>>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>>>to examine their records.
>>
>>>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>>>with the family.
>>
>>>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>>>end of this month.
>>
>>>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>>>Britain today.'
>>
>>>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:30:27 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>>Tavish II) wrote:
>>
>>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>>Communists and who they were!
>>>
>>>Look:
>>>
>>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>>
>>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>>
>>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>>Results and Prospects.
>>>
>>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>>Committee.
>>>
>>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>>revolution......
>>>
>>>Above found at:
>>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>>
>>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>>
>>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>>>said!>
>>>
>>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>>
>>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>>
>>>Try also:
>>>
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>>
>>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>>Try:
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>>
>>>which states:
>>>
>>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>>
>>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>>
>>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>Consider this:
>>>
>>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>>824-827).
>>>
>>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>>
>>>Here is the link:
>>>
>>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>You will run across this:
>>>
>>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>>
>>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>>this exhibit:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>>
>>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>>
>>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>>
>>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>>
>>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>>
>>>Footnote:
>>>
>>>The BUND:
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>>III, pp 824-827).
>>>
>>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>>
>>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>>
>>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>>                I will find all credible sites
>>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>>                Till the next installment!



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:20:20 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>>On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:08:00 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:57 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>>>>>On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>>>>>Slepokura) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Who lied about Demjanjuk?
>>>>>
>>>>>>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment 
>>>>>
>>>>>>by Yossi Melman
>>>>>
>>>>>>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>>>>>>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha'aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.] 
>>>>>
>>>>>>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>>>>>>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>>>>>>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>>>>>>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>>>>>>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman's noose, and his close
>>>>>>family
>>>>>>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>>>>>>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling -
>>>>>>years later proven to be incorrect - that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>>>>>>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>>>>>>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk's extradition to
>>>>>>Israel. 
>>>>>
>>>>>>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>>>>>>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>>>>>>Court
>>>>>>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>>>>>>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>>>>>>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>>>>>>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>>>>>>hope to reach.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt's star had shone bright. He had extensive
>>>>>>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>>>>>>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>>>>>>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>>>>>>Judge George Paine of the
>>>>>>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>>>>>>and primarily B'nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>>>>>>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>>>>>>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>>>>>>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>>>>>>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>>>>>>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>>>>>>ago. 
>>>>>
>>>>>>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>>>>>>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. "I am just a
>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>more sober," he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt's
>>>>>>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>>>>>>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>>>>>>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>>>>>>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department's Office
>>>>>>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>>>>>>against Demjanjuk.
>>>>>
>>>>>>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>>>>>>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>>>>>>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>>>>>>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>>>>>>being inefficient and
>>>>>>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>>>>>>to "deliver the goods": either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>>>>>>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>>>>>>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>>>>>>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>>>>>>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>>>>>>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>>>>>>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>>>>>>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>>>>>>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>>>>>>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government - through
>>>>>>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>>>>>>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem - to request Demjanjuk's
>>>>>>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>>>>>>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>>>>>>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.
>>>>>
>>>>>>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>>>>>>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>>>>>>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>>>>>>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>>>>>>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>>>>>>Demjanjuk's extradition.
>>>>>>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>>>>>>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>>>>>>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him. 
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Today we know," says Merritt, "that they - the OSI, the prosecution in
>>>>>>the case and the State Department - lied through their teeth. Even then
>>>>>>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>>>>>>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>>>>>>information at the time.
>>>>>>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>>>>>>Israel." Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was "nothing
>>>>>>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>>>>>>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>>>>>>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>>>>>>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>>>>>>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted." 
>>>>>
>>>>>>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>>>>>>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>>>>>>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk's trial, Michael
>>>>>>Shaked. "Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>>>>>>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk's identification as Ivan the
>>>>>>Terrible. It was these doubts
>>>>>>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman's noose.
>>>>>>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>>>>>>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars." As for
>>>>>>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>>>>>>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, "Yes, I heard
>>>>>>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>>>>>>introduced to the court, it's impossible to find him guilty of other
>>>>>>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>>>>>>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>>>>>>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>>>>>>Terrible." 
>>>>>
>>>>>>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>>>>>>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>>>>>>investigation
>>>>>>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>>>>>>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge's claim
>>>>>>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>>>>>>their legal advisers, who
>>>>>>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>>>>>>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>>>>>>Cinncinnati trial
>>>>>>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>>>>>>required by law. "My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>>>>>>judge,
>>>>>>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>>>>>>the officials in Washington - to submit all the information they had to
>>>>>>the court."
>>>>>>The investigation of Judge Merritt's complaint is still underway. 
>>>>>
>>>>>>Gilbert Merritt's curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>>>>>>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor's degree at Yale,
>>>>>>and then
>>>>>>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>>>>>>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>>>>>>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>>>>>>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>>>>>>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>>>>>>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>>>>>>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>>>>>>situation of the black minority of
>>>>>>one of the most racist southern states.
>>>>>
>>>>>>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>>>>>>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>>>>>>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>>>>>>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>>>>>>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him. 
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>>>>>>demand for an investigation," he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>>>>>>"They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>>>>>>organizations could have."
>>>>>
>>>>>>Merritt's friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>>>>>>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>>>>>>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>>>>>>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>>>>>>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>>>>>>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge's chambers in Cinncinnati and
>>>>>>Nashville.
>>>>>
>>>>>>"At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies - golf, tennis,
>>>>>>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>>>>>>universities." 
>>>>>>[End]
>sven88



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 13:50:33 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught  dealing drugs - this
>time inside a prison!!!
>
>Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
>Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
>balloons of cocaine and marijuana.
>
>He is a former head of the "who's Who in canadian Jewry", and has been
>a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.
>
>
>
>On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>Christ.
>
>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>business.
>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>
>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>
>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>launder  and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
>narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
>synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 
>
>The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>together a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
>representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 
>
> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>Colombian drug lords. 
>
>"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
>Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>announcing the charges. 
>
>Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 
>
>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 
>
>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
>charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
>taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
>synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
>writing checks to drug traffickers. 
>
>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>
>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 
>
>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>Shel Shulem. 
>
>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
>Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
>Family of Mexico Building." 
>
>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>named in the federal complaint. 
>
>The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>officials said. 
>
>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
>conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 
>
>Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
>have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>launder. 
>
>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>
>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>Shulem.
>
>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
>out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
>the federal complaint said. 
>
>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 
>
>Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
>drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>================================================================================
>The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                           News Bureau and Archives Online
>
>
>
>On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:20:49 +0100, "Ulf Alexandersson"
> wrote:
>
>>iearn wrote:
>>>> Jews are greedy, they murdered Jesus, now Jews murdering Arabs.
>>>> What next?
>>>
>>>Next!?  You and Me; just wait they claim that they are the chosen
>>>people.
>>
>>
>>Something reminds me of Manifest Destiny. People who believed in that caused
>>the native-american genocides. In another shape, continued directly with
>>Hiroshima, Corea, Vietnam. Indirectly to mass-slaughter in Latin America,
>>East-Timor, Laos.. Jesus was a Jew, and I think it's tragic how christianity
>>has caused the hostility towards Jews throughout history. I don't like their
>>treatment of palestinians, but that is definately NOT a reason to support
>>anti-semitism.
>
>
>
>How can it be anti-semitism, when one supports the descendants of Ham,
>being the Arabs?
>
>Opposing Zionist Jews is not the same as anti-semitism, despite what
>the Christkillers would claim.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:43:26 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:56:31 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:
>>On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:14:46 GMT, doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com
>>(Gunther Schiller) wrote:
>>
>>>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>>>
>>>>Amazing. Blame Hitler on the Jews? What a laugh. And I thought Stalin was a
>>>>reach. 
>>>>No, there were no Jews in Hitler's inner circle. Pure non-sense.
>>>
>>>Wanna bet o' clueless one? You are damned good at running your mouth
>>>and offering your opinion, along with your undocumented uses of the
>>>telephone BUT I have my facts together!
>>>
>>>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>>>
>>>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>>>
>>>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>>>
>>>>Specific example. Pure fantasy. Please make something up
>>>
>>>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>book The War Against The Jews.
>>>
>>>Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>>>
>>>* April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>* ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>deportations."]
>>>
>>>			____________________________
>>>
>>>Or how about this?
>>>
>>>                                       Hitler's Jewish Army
>>>
>>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>>>speaking of World War Two.
>>>
>>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>>
>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>knowledge and approval.
>>>
>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>>>
>>>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>>>
>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>>>
>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>>
>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>>
>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>Aryan.''
>>>
>>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>>
>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>whose father was a Jew.
>>>
>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>>>
>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>
>>>Sources:
>>>
>>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>>
>>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>>
>>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>>>
>>>Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>>>
>>>		----------------------------------
>>>
>>>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>>>
>>>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company 
>>>
>>>Thursday, April 3, 1997 
>>>
>>>Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces 
>>>
>>>by Reuters 
>>>
>>>BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>>>
>>>See also:
>>>
>>>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>
>>>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company 
>>>
>>>Dec. 26, 1996 
>>>
>>>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>served in Nazi army 
>>>
>>>by William D. Montalbano
>>>Los Angeles Times 
>>>
>>>LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>of Holocaust history. 
>>>
>>>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. 
>>>
>>>"Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>whole story.]
>>>
>>> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html 
>>>
>>>			----------------------------------
>>>
>>>>.>Did the Bolsheviks give exemptions?
>>>
>>>>You tell me.
>>>
>>>No, they did not!
>>>
>>>		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:10:57 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:01:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>
>>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>>
>>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>>
>>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>>involved.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>>
>>>sperati wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>> 
>>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>> 
>>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> North Shore News
>>>> February 2, 1997
>>>> 
>>>> Insights from abroad
>>>> Doug Collins
>>>> 
>>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>> 
>>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>>> 
>>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>>> 
>>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>> 
>>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>> 
>>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> alive.
>>>> 
>>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>>> 
>>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>> 
>>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> documents in the process.
>>>> 
>>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>>> 
>>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>>> 
>>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>> 
>>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>> 
>>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> was a Jew.
>>>> 
>>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>>> 
>>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>> 
>>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>> 
>>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> wonder why?
>>>> 
>>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:07:04 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:28:11 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>>wrote:

>>>>Hitler's Jewish Army
>>>>
>>>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Weasel
>>>>speaking of World War Two.
>>>>
>>>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing what
>>>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>>>
>>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>>>'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf
>>>>Hitler's knowledge and approval.
>>>>
>>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including
>>>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to
>>>>100,000 troops."
>>>>
>>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>>>Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's
>>>>Cross.
>>>>
>>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>>>
>>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish
>>>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>>>
>>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew
>>>>and who is an Aryan.''
>>>>
>>>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>>>
>>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>>>
>>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>>>(kapos).
>>>>
>>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>>
>>>>Sources:
>>>>
>>>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>>>
>>>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>>>
>>>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:14:49 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:15:56 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:41:38 -0400, "Richard G. Philllips"
>> wrote:
>>>Scoop wrote:
>>>> Quoth Richard G. Philllips:
>>>> : Scoop wrote:
>>
>>>> : > Dick, since you are alleging that Jews have routinely engaged in ritual
>>>> : > murder throughout our long history, it is incumbent upon you to provide
>>>> : > proof of your assertion.
>>>===========================================
>>>Phillips
>>>I have never alleged and I do not believe that Jews ROUTINELY commit
>>>ritual murder. I am inclined to believe that it has happened but is a
>>>rare thing and certainly not indulged in by the generality of Jews.
>>
>>>After reading covington's original post about the ocurrences in Chicago
>>>in 1955,
>>>I did no more than say that the circumstances, taken as a whole, were
>>>highly suggestive of ritual murder.
>>>===========================================
>>>Phillips (previous)
>>
>>>> : It is well known that liberals and Jews have a penchant for hyperbole of
>>>> : that sort. It reveals far more about the author than it does about the
>>>> : person referred to.
>>>===================================================
>>>> 
>>>> All that it reveals about me is my opinion that you're a spineless, lying
>>>> buffoon.
>>>===========================================
>>>PHillips
>>>
>>>See what I mean?
>>>=====================
>>Notice that the Christkillers refuse to discuss the issue, namely how
>>many of them indulge in Jewish Ritual Murder, of children???



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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:15:28 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:20:03 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:35:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>>>>On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:15:39 GMT, adam.radek@england.com wrote:
>>>>>http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/news/21friedman.shtml
>>>
>>>>>The Village Voice
>>>>>22May98
>>>
>>>If the following story is true, why has INTERPOL not done anything??
>>>Just because the criminals are JEWS??
>>>
>>>
>>>>The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World
>>>
>>>>According to the FBI and Israeli Intelligence, Semion Mogilevich Rules
>>>>Over an Arms-Trafficking, Money-Laundering, Drug-Running, and
>>>>Art-Smuggling 'Red Mafia'
>>>
>>>>by Robert I. Friedman
>>>
>>>
>>>>In two posh villas outside  the small town of Ricany, near Prague, one
>>>>of the most dreaded mob families in the world savagely murders its
>>>>terrified victims. The  mob's young enforcers, trained by veterans of
>>>>the Afghanistan war, are infamous for their extreme brutality. Their
>>>>quarry, usually businessmen who have balked at extortion demands, are
>>>>repeatedly stabbed and tortured, then mutilated before they are
>>>>butchered. The carnage is so hideous that it has scared the daylights
>>>>out of competing crime groups in the area.
>>>
>>>>The torture chambers are run by what international police officials call
>>>>the Red Mafia, a notorious  Russian mob family that in onlysix years has
>>>>become a nefarious global crime cartel. Based in Budapest, it haskey
>>>>centers in New York, Pennsylvania, Southern California, and as far away
>>>>as New Zealand.
>>>>
>>>>The enigmatic leader of the Red Mafia is a  52-year-old Ukrainian-born
>>>>JEW named Semion Mogilevich. He is a shadowy figure known as the
>>>>''Brainy Don''--he holds an economics degree from  the University of
>>>>Lvov--and until now, he has never  been exposed by the media. But the
>>>>Voice has  obtained hundreds of pages of classified FBI and  Israeli
>>>>intelligence documents from August 1996, and   these documents--as well
>>>>as recent interviews with a key criminal associate and with dozens of
>>>>law  enforcement sources here and abroad--describe him as someone who
>>>>has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel and Eastern Europe.
>>>
>>>>''He's the most powerful mobster in the world,'' crows Monya Elson, who
>>>>is listed in classified documents as one of Mogilevich's closest
>>>>associates and  partners in prostitution and money laundering rings. The
>>>>Brighton Beach-based Elson, who once led a pack of thugs and killers
>>>>known as Monya's Brigada,  is currently in the Metropolitan Correctional
>>>>Center in  lower Manhattan awaiting trial for three murders and numerous
>>>>extortions.
>>>
>>>>In July 1993, after Elson was grievously wounded by rival mobsters in a
>>>>bloody shoot-out outside his Brooklyn apartment building, Mogilevich
>>>>spirited him out of the country. Mogilevich then set up his Russian
>>>>Jewish refugee friend in an alleged massive  money-laundering scheme in
>>>>Fano, Italy, where he was eventually arrested and extradited back to
>>>>America. Elson, an integral part of the Red Mafia, had been one of the
>>>>most feared mobsters in Brighton Beach, ground zero for Russian
>>>>organized crime in America, which has exploded here following
>>>>perestroika.
>>>>
>>>>''If I tell on Mogilevich, Interpol will give me $20 million,'' boasted
>>>>Elson. ''I lived with him. I'm his partner, don't forget. We are very,
>>>>very close friends. I don't mean close, I mean very, very close. He's my
>>>>best friend.'' Nevertheless, after extensive interviews over the course
>>>>of the last six months, Elson ultimately confirmed some of the details
>>>>about Mogilevich contained in the classified FBI and Israeli documents.
>>>>
>>>>Allegations of Mogilevich's devilish array of criminal activities are
>>>>extensively detailed in the reports:The FBI and Israeli intelligence
>>>>assert that he traffics in nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes,
>>>>precious gems, and stolen art. His contract hit squads operate in the
>>>>U.S. and Europe. He controls everything that goes in and out of Moscow's
>>>>Sheremetyevo International Airport, a ''smugglers' paradise,'' says
>>>>Elson. Mogilevich bought a bankrupt airline in a former Central Asian
>>>>Soviet republic for millions of dollars in cash so he could haul heroin
>>>>out of the Golden Triangle. Most worrisome to U.S. authorities is
>>>>Mogilevich's apparently legal purchase of virtually the entire Hungarian
>>>>armaments industry, jeopardizing regional security, NATO, and the war
>>>>against terrorism.
>>>>
>>>>In one typical criminal deal, Mogilevich and two Moscow-based gangsters
>>>>sold $20 million worth of pilfered Warsaw Pact weapons from East
>>>>Germany,  including ground-to-air missiles and 12 armored troop
>>>>carriers, according to the classified Israeli and FBI documents. The
>>>>buyer was Iran, says a top-level U.S. Customs official who requested
>>>>anonymity.
>>>>
>>>>In another deal, an FBI informant told the bureau that one of
>>>>Mogilevich's chief lieutenants in Los Angeles met two Russians from New
>>>>York City with Genovese crime family ties to broker a scheme to dump
>>>>American toxic waste in Russia. Mogilevich's man from L.A. said the Red
>>>>Mafia would dispose of  the toxic waste in the Chernobyl region,
>>>>''probably through payoffs to the decontamination authorities there,''
>>>>says a classified FBI report.
>>>>
>>>>Mogilevich is particularly intrigued by art fraud. In early 1993, he
>>>>reached an agreement with the  leaders of the powerful Solntsevskaya
>>>>crime family in Moscow to invest huge sums of money in a joint venture:
>>>>acquiring a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest. The business,
>>>>according to classified FBI documents, was to serve as a front for the
>>>>acquisition of jewelry, antiques, and art, which the Solntsevskaya mob
>>>>had stolen from churches and museums in Russia, including the Hermitage
>>>>in St. Petersburg. The gangsters also robbed the homes of  art
>>>>collectors and even broke into synagogues in Germany and Eastern Europe
>>>>to steal rare religious books and Torahs.
>>>>
>>>>Mogilevich's operation, again in collusion with the Solntsevskaya mob,
>>>>also purchased a large jewelry factory in Budapest. Russian antiques,
>>>>such as Faberge eggs, are sent to Budapest for ''restoration.''
>>>>Mogilevich's men ship the genuine Faberge eggs to  an unwitting
>>>>Sotheby's auction house in London for sale, then send fake Faberge eggs
>>>>as well as other ''restored'' objects back to Moscow.
>>>>
>>>>MOGILEVICH'S EARLY years are murky. Soviet authorities first learned of
>>>>his criminal activities in the 1970s, when he was a member of the
>>>>Liubertskaya crime group that operated in the Moscow suburb of  the same
>>>>name. He was involved in petty thefts and counterfeiting.
>>>>
>>>>But Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the mid
>>>>1980s, when tens of thousands of  Jewish refugees were hurriedly
>>>>immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
>>>>assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
>>>>goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
>>>>currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
>>>>profits.
>>>>
>>>>In the 1980s, he established a petroleum  import-export company, Arbat
>>>>International, and registered it in Alderney, one of the Channel
>>>>Islands, which is known to be a tax haven. One of his partners--with a
>>>>quarter share of the company--was Vyacheslav Ivankov, the legendary
>>>>Russian criminal who in March 1992 became Godfather of the Russian mob
>>>>in America. Ivankov was convicted in 1996 of extorting two Russian-born
>>>>Wall Street stockbrokers. He now resides in Raybrook, a Federal prison
>>>>in upstate New York.
>>>>
>>>>In early 1990, Mogilevich fled Moscow, as did many other dons, to avoid
>>>>the gangland wars that were then roiling the capital. Mogilevich and his
>>>>top henchmen settled in Israel, where they received  Israeli
>>>>citizenship. He ''succeeded in building a bridgehead in Israel'' and
>>>>''developing significant and influential [political] ties,'' says an
>>>>Israeli intelligence report.
>>>>
>>>>Mogilevich is married to a Hungarian national, Katalin Papp. That
>>>>marriage allowed him to legally emigrate to Budapest, Hungary, in 1991,
>>>>where he began to build the foundations of his global criminal empire.
>>>>He bought a string of nightclubs in Prague, Riga, and  Kiev--called the
>>>>''Black and White Clubs''--that has become one of the world's foremost
>>>>centers of  prostitution. Monya Elson is a partner in the clubs,
>>>>according to his own admission and classified FBI  documents. The Black
>>>>and White Club in Budapest became the hub of Mogilevich's operations. He
>>>>quickly built a highly structured criminal organization,  in the mode of
>>>>a traditional American mafia family.  Indeed, many of the organization's
>>>>250 members are his relatives.
>>>>
>>>>To the consternation of international law enforcement officials,
>>>>Mogilevich began to legally purchase much of Hungary's arms industry.
>>>>The legitimate companies he bought include:
>>>>
>>>>-Magnex 2000: a giant magnet manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>>-Digep General Machine Works: an artillery shell, mortar, and fire
>>>>equipment manufacturer, which was financed by a $3.8 million loan from
>>>>the London  branch of Banque Francaise De L'orean.
>>>>
>>>>-Army Co-op: a mortar and anti-aircraft gun factory. Army Co-op was
>>>>established in 1991 by two  Hungarian nationals, both in the local arms
>>>>industry,  who were looking for a partner. Mogilevich has bought 95 per
>>>>cent of Army Co-op through another Channel Island holding company,
>>>>Arigon, Ltd., and also deals extensively with the Ukraine, selling oil
>>>>products to the Ukrainian railway administration.
>>>>
>>>>These transactions enabled the Mogilevich organization to become a
>>>>direct owner of the Hungarian armaments industry. In 1994, he purchased
>>>>a license enabling him to buy and sell  weapons. Now a legitimate
>>>>armaments manufacturer, one of his companies participated in at least
>>>>one arms exhibition in the U.S., where it displayed mortars modified by
>>>>Israel.
>>>>
>>>>Like mob bosses everywhere, Mogilevich couldn't  sustain his empire
>>>>without the help of corrupt police and politicians. There is one
>>>>documented example of  a criminal associate of Mogilevich mingling with
>>>>American politicians. In March 1994, Vahtang Ubiriya, one of
>>>>Mogilevich's top lieutenants, was photographed by the FBI at a tony
>>>>Republican Party fundraiser in Dallas, says an FBI report. Ubiriya, a
>>>>high-ranking official in the Ukrainian railway administration, has a
>>>>prior conviction for bribery in the Ukraine.
>>>>
>>>>In Europe and Russia, the ''corruption of police and public officials
>>>>has been part of the Semion  Mogilevich Organization's modus operandi,''
>>>>says a classified FBI document. ''The corruptive influence of  the
>>>>Mogilevich organization apparently extends to the Russian security
>>>>system. During 1995, two colonels from Department of the Russian
>>>>Presidential Security Service . . . traveled to Hungary under commercia
>>>>cover to meet with Mogilevich . . . seeking  information for use in the
>>>>Russian political campaign.'' An Israeli associate of Mogilevich met
>>>>with the two colonels and provided intelligence.  Mogilevich also paid
>>>>off a Russian judge to secure  Vyacheslav Ivankov's early release from a
>>>>Siberian prison, where he was doing hard time for robbery and torture,
>>>>according to U.S. court records and  classified FBI documents.
>>>>
>>>>On April 28, the German national television network ZDF reported that
>>>>the BND (the German intelligence agency) had entered into a secret
>>>>contract with  Mogilevich to provide information on the Russian  mob.
>>>>The charges were made by several sources,   including Pierre Delilez, a
>>>>highly regarded Belgium  police investigator who specializes in Russian
>>>>Organized Crime. Because of this deal with the BND,  police in Belgium,
>>>>Germany, and Austria have complained that it is now impossible to
>>>>investigate  the ''Brainy Don.'' If the television report is accurate,
>>>>one possible motive for BND's deal, says a U.S. law enforcement expert
>>>>on the Russian mob, is that the Germans recently ''pulled their people
>>>>out of Moscow  because they didn't like the level of cooperation they
>>>>were getting from the Russian authorities on the  Russian mob.''
>>>>Gangsters, said this source, often talk to intelligence agencies about
>>>>their rivals.
>>>>
>>>>MOGILEVICH'S MAIN activity in the U.S. appears to be money laundering,
>>>>says a classified FBI report.  He has set up companies in Los
>>>>Angeles--FNJ Trade Management--and Newton, Pennsylvania--YBM  Magnex
>>>>International--as well as dozens of shell  companies, which have
>>>>received more than $30 million from Arigon, Ltd., the center of
>>>>Mogilevich's  financial operations.
>>>>
>>>>Last Friday, U.S. Attorney Robert Courtney, head of  the organized-crime
>>>>strike force, led a a joint FBI,  IRS, INS, and Customs raid of YBM's
>>>>offices in  Newton. Cartons of documents were seized, with  Canadian and
>>>>U.S. police citing the company's alleged ties to Russian organized
>>>>crime. YBM is  publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and  two
>>>>days before Friday's raid, trading in its stock was suspended by
>>>>Canadian authorities.
>>>>
>>>>The president and CEO of YBM is Jacob Bogatin, a professor of physical
>>>>metallurgy. In May 1996, he contacted the FBI in Philadelphia to find
>>>>out why the  INS had denied visas to YBM employees arriving from Hungary
>>>>and the Ukraine. When he was rebuffed, he had intermediaries step
>>>>forward and pester the FBI. The State Department has banned Mogilevich
>>>>himself from obtaining a U.S. visa because he's on the department's
>>>>watch list of  international organized-crime figures. Nevertheless, he
>>>>has surreptitiously entered America under aliases and on visitor visas
>>>>issued in Tel Aviv to visit Elson  and Ivankov.
>>>>
>>>>Bogatin admitted during a telephone interview that Mogilevich owns his
>>>>company. When asked if he knew that numerous law enforcement agencies
>>>>here and abroad considered Mogilevich to be a leader of  one of the most
>>>>ruthless organized-crime families in  recent times, Bogatin replied,
>>>>''We have an investors relations guy. You want to talk with him about
>>>>this stuff.'' He added that he had read allegations in the Eastern
>>>>European press that his boss was a Mafia don, but didn't believe them.
>>>>YBM vehemently denies that it is connected to Russian organized crime or
>>>>has engaged in any criminal activities.
>>>>
>>>>Bogatin is no stranger to the mob, however. His brother, David, a top
>>>>Russian crime figure who once served in North Vietnam for the Soviets in
>>>>an anti-aircraft unit, is now serving an eight-year term in  a New York
>>>>State prison for a multimillion-dollar gasoline tax fraud scheme. Just
>>>>prior to trial, he had jumped bail, fleeing to Poland. There he set up
>>>>the  first commercial banks, which moved vast sums of  money controlled
>>>>by Russian wiseguys. (This after handing over his mortgages for five
>>>>pricey Trump Tower apartments to a Genovese associate. The mortgages
>>>>were liquidated and the funds were moved  through a mafia-controlled
>>>>bank in Chelsea.)  Eventually he was caught and returned to the U.S. In
>>>>the meantime, he lived like royalty in a five-star  Viennese hotel,
>>>>surrounded by a praetorian guard of 125 Polish parachutists, some of
>>>>them bedecked in shiny gold uniforms.
>>>>
>>>>Mogilevich has not refrained from associating with known killers in
>>>>America, prime among them Elson and Ivankov. A confidential informant
>>>>told the FBI that Vladimir Berkovich, an L.A. resident, is a chief
>>>>lieutenant in Mogilevich's organization and has arranged contract
>>>>killings here, supplying the  weapons and spiriting the killers out of
>>>>the country. The visas, says the report, were obtained through the Palm
>>>>Terrace restaurant, a watering hole for Russian gangsters, which
>>>>Berkovich owns. Berkovich told the Voice that he is aware of the
>>>>government's charges, and that they are ''total bullshit.'' Although he
>>>>has no criminal record in the U.S., Berkovich's son, Oleg, was convicted
>>>>in Los Angeles of solicitation to commit murder on October 11, 1989. He
>>>>was sentenced to four years. Oleg's business card  identified his
>>>>employer as Magnex, Ltd., a company owned by Mogilevich in Budapest.
>>>>Oleg was recently arrested in Hungary on unspecified charges but was
>>>>released.
>>>>
>>>>Oleg's uncle, the colorful Lazar Berkovich, whose last known address was
>>>>New York City, arrived in the  Big Apple after having survived a
>>>>shootout with Italian gangsters, says his brother Vladimir. The FBI
>>>>report claims that Lazar was head of Russian criminal activities in
>>>>Italy prior to his coming to America to recuperate from his wounds,
>>>>though Vladimir  Bercovich denies that Lazar was ever connected to the
>>>>Russian mob.
>>>>
>>>>Israeli and U.S. law enforcement sources agree that the Red Mafia,
>>>>though in existence for a mere six years, has become one of the most
>>>>formidable Russian organized-crime families in the world. Strongest in
>>>>the Ukraine, Hungary, the Czech  Republic, and the U.S., Mogilevich has
>>>>increased his strength by forging ties with other powerful Russian mob
>>>>groups as well as with the Italian Camorra. His reported ties to the
>>>>German BND and ex-police officers in Hungary keep him informed of police
>>>>efforts to penetrate his organization. ''He also  ingratiates himself
>>>>with the police by providing information on other [Russian crime]
>>>>groups'  activities, thus appearing to be a cooperative good  citizen,''
>>>>says a classfied FBI report. This, along with  his strong leadership
>>>>qualities, his acute financial  skills, his talented and highly educated
>>>>associates,  and his use of cutting-edge technology, has so far  made
>>>>the ''Brainy Don'' impervious to prosecution.
>>>>
>>>>This document last modified Friday, May 22, 1998, 10:31 AM EDT.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:20:57 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:56:12 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:04:43 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>>
>>>The article has more than enough active website addresses, that you
>>>should have been able to read more useful material.
>>>
>>>By the way, why not comment on your ideas relevant to the subject
>>>heading.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:56:12 +0000, philip de cadenet
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Roger,
>>>>>In view of the constant reports by Interpol that the Russian JEW Mafia
>>>>>is spreading its control around the world, combined with the strength of
>>>>>the JEWS under communism, one wonders, is Russia now under the full
>>>>>control of JEWS??
>>>>>
>>>>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org
>>>>>
>>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>>>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>>>>>       
>>>>>       One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>>>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>>>
>>>>>       First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>>>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>>>>>
>>>>>       While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>>Archives:         
>>>>>         
>>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>>>>>         
>>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>>>>>
>>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>>>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>>Government."         
>>>>>
>>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>>>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>>>>>
>>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>>>>>
>>>>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>>>>>
>>>>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>>>>>
>>>>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>>Gordon. 
>>>>>
>>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>>were Jews. 
>>>>>
>>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>>did not take kindly to it." 
>>>>>
>>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>>>
>>>>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>>>>>
>>>>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>>4, 1919) 
>>>>>       
>>>>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>>>
>>>>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>>>>>
>>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>>himself:
>>>>>
>>>>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>>>
>>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>>>
>>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>>>>>
>>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>>Communist bosses.
>>>>>  
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>>>
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People 
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>>>>                http://www.natvan.com
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>     Roger's Page  http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>>>      Keep It White Because You Know It's Right!
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>You posted a ficticious e-mail address thereby defeating the object of
>>>>your final sentence above!
>>>>One does have to wonder how much credence you expect us, the readers of
>>>>this newgroup, to give someone who does not print their real e-mail
>>>>address.
>>>>Nuff said.
>>>>
>>>>Philip de Cadenet / UK



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:11:26 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:54:42 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>>On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:43:14 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:

>>>And never forget that the KGB was established by the cursed Polish JEW
>>>DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>>
>>>Never forget that the KATYN murders were by the JEW-led Soviet KGB!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>And don't forget the murders of the UN troops in Lebanon by the JEWS;
>>>
>>>And don't  forget the genocide of the unarmed civilians at the Q'ana
>>>refugee camp by the damn Israelis.


>>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:17:05 -0700, Clancy
>>> wrote:
>>>>someone@somewhere.com wrote:

>>>>> And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>>> Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>>> gangster!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>Zionist  terrorist acts from 1939-1996 - part I
>>>
>>>>1939 
>>>>Haganah blew up the Iraqi oil pipeline near Haifa palestine. Moshe Dayan was one of 
>>>>the participant in this act. The technique was used again in 1947 at least 4 times.
>>>
>>>>August 20, 1937-June 29, 1939
>>>>During this period, Zionist carrtied out a series of attacks against Arab buses, 
>>>>resulting in the seath of 24 persons and wonding 25 others. They are the Master of 
>>>>killing people on buses.
>>>
>>>>Nov.25, 1940
>>>>S.S. Patria blown up by Jewish Terrorists in Haifa Harbor, Killing 268 illegal Jewish 
>>>>immigrants.
>>>
>>>>Nov. 6 1944
>>>>Zionist Terrorist of Stern gang* assassinated the British Minister Resident in the 
>>>>Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
>>>
>>>>July 22, 1946
>>>>Zionist Terrorist blew up the King david Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central 
>>>>offices of the civilian administarion of the Governemnt of Palestine, Killing and 
>>>>injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun gangs claimed responsibility for this 
>>>>criminal act, but subsequentevidence indicated that boith the Haganah and the Jewish 
>>>>Agency were involved.
>>>
>>>>October 1, 1946
>>>>The british Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by a bomb explosions, for which Irgun 
>>>>cliam responsibility.
>>>
>>>>June 1947
>>>>Letters sent to British Cabnit Minister were found to contain Bombs.
>>>
>>>>September 3, 1947
>>>>A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting 
>>>>room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs.( The  
>>>>Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8
>>>
>>>>December 11, 1947
>>>>Six Arabs were kiled and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab 
>>>>buses in haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and anothers injured in an attack by armed 
>>>>Zionist on Arab coastal village near Haifa.
>>>
>>>>Dec. 13 1947
>>>>Zionist terrorist believed to be memeber of Irgun Zvia Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and 
>>>>wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda Area. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown 
>>>>in an Arab market-place near Damascus Gate; in Jaffa bombs were thrown into an Arab 
>>>>cafe; in the Arab village of Al Yahudia near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack 
>>>>with mortars and automatic weapons.
>>>
>>>>Dec. 19, 1947
>>>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the 
>>>>ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah 
>>>>admitted responsibility for the attack.
>>>
>>>>Dec. 29, 1947
>>>>Two British contables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus 
>>>>Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun Jews threw a bomb from a taxi.
>>>
>>>>Dec. 30, 1947
>>>>A mixed forces of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village 
>>>>of Ballad al Shaikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.
>>>
>>>>1947-1948
>>>>Over 700,000 Plaestine Arabs were uprooted from their beloved homes and land in 
>>>>Palestine; since than have been denied the right to return or been given compensation 
>>>>for their property. After their expolsion, the "Zionist Israel terrorist Armies" 
>>>>razed to the ground 385 Arabs villages ad towns out of a total of 475, ands 
>>>>oblitrated their remains. These Are "The GOD Chosen People" who commit murder in the 
>>>>name of Judiasm.
>>>
>>>>January 1, 1948
>>>>Haganah terrorists attacked attacked a village on the slop of mount Camel; 17 Arabs 
>>>>were killed and 33 were wounded.
>>>
>>>>January 4, 1948
>>>>Haganah terrorist wearing British Army Uniform penetrated into the center of Jaffa 
>>>>and blew up the Serai(the old Turkish Governemnt House) which was used as a 
>>>>headqaurter of the Arab national Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 
>>>>98 others.
>>>
>>>>January 5, 1948 
>>>>The Arab-owned semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blowm up, killing 20 persons, among 
>>>>them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this 
>>>>outrage.
>>>
>>>>January 7, 1948
>>>>seventeen Arabs were kjilled by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them 
>>>>while trying to escape. further casualties, including the murder of a British officer 
>>>>near Hebron, were reported from different part of the country.
>>>
>>>>Jan. 16, 1948
>>>>Zionists blew up three Arabs building. in the first, 8 children between the ages of 
>>>>18 month and 12 years, died.
>>>
>>>>Dec. 13, 1947- February 10, 1948
>>>>seven incident of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilian in cafe and markets, killing 
>>>>138 and wounding 271 others. during this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. 
>>>>Zionist mind passenger trains on at least 4 occasions killing 93 persons and wounding 
>>>>161 others.
>>>
>>>>Feb. 15 1948
>>>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, 
>>>>killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
>>>
>>>>March 3, 1948
>>>>Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa(a 7 story block of 
>>>>flat and shops) by zionist who drove an army lorry uo to the building and escaped 
>>>>before the detonation of 400 lb. of explosive; casualties numbered 11 Arabs ans 3 
>>>>Armanians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Jewish Gang claimed responsibility of the 
>>>>crime.
>>>
>>>>March 22, 1948
>>>>A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 
>>>>others. Four memeber of the Stern Jewish Gang drove two lorry-loaded of explosive 
>>>>into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosive.
>>>
>>>>March 31, 1948
>>>>The Cairo_Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month by an 
>>>>electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 
>>>>others.
>>>
>>>>April 9, 1948
>>>>A combined forces of Irgun Zvai Leumi and ther Stern Jewish Gang, supported by the 
>>>>Palmach forces captured the Arab village of Deir Yassine and killed than 200 unarmed 
>>>>civilians, including countless women and childern. Older men and young women were and 
>>>>paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were than 
>>>>shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
>>>
>>>>April 16, 1948
>>>>Zionist attacked the former British army camp at tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs 
>>>>there.
>>>
>>>>April 19 1948
>>>>Fourteen arabs were killed in a hous in Tiberias which was blown up by Zionist 
>>>>terrorist Jews.
>>>
>>>>May 11, 1948
>>>>A letter Bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Baker, former commanding Officer in Plaestine, 
>>>>was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
>>>
>>>>April 25, 1948- may 13, 1948
>>>>Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and 
>>>>Haganah Terrorist Jews. They stripped and carried away everything they could, 
>>>>destroying what they could not take with them.
>>>
>>>>Sept. 17 1948
>>>>Count Folk Bernadotte, UN Mediator in Palestine was assassinated by memeber of the 
>>>>Stern Jewish Gang in the Zionist controlled sector of Jerusalem. Bernadotte's aide 
>>>>Col. serot was also killed and murdered by Jewish terrorist.
>>>
>>>>Nov. 1948
>>>>The Arab village of Iqrit and Birim were attacked and destroyed, killing and injuring 
>>>>countless unarmed Arabs, including women and children. All the Arabs were forcibly 
>>>>expelled from their homes and mother land Palestine, Know today as the artificial 
>>>>state of zionist Israel.
>>>
>>>On 14 Apr 1998 17:11:47 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article , "peter" 
>>>>writes:
>>>
>>>>>>Even the JEW media in the US have repeatedly documented the camps
>>>>>>where the cursed JEWs are imprisoning many thousands of innocent
>>>>>>Palestinians, both within Israel, and also in occupied Lebanon!!!
>>>>>>Don't you even believe the JEWISH media??/
>>>
>>>>The only ones cursed are you Polish Catholics and that is for the Muder of
>>>>Jesus the Christ which your ancesstors did 2000 years ago,
>>>>It was a Polish Mercinary in the Roman Army who drove the nails into his arms.
>>>>For that all poles are doomed and cursed to forever be the butt of Polish Jokes
>>>>and to suffer terminal stupidity.
>>>
>>>>Forever another  stain on Poland and the Polish people.
>>>>And you are damn right.
>>>>Ask a Jew from Poland what he is and he will say " A Jew " and not a Pollack.
>>>>My farther would never tell any one he was from POland, It is a thing to be
>>>>ashamed of and few want to admit it.
>>>
>>>
>>>No wonder honest people of Poland dislike the foul JEWS!!!
>>>



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:24:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:00:51 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:

>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>>
>>>They haven't.
>>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>
>>>>David Maddison
>>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>>Harold.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, Mr_I@TIO>not.awww....
>>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>>woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>> 
>>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>>> peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>>
>>
>>>Shouldn't that be "Oingo Boingo"?
>>
>>>Doesn't Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of 
>>>"Be careful who you hate, because you'll end up being just like them".
>>
>>>They're behaving like Nazi's in Palestine (let's call it by it's real name
>>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn't one of the
>>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>>the Past AND the Future?...).
>>
>>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli's are secular and
>>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!.  WHO DON'T WORK.  WHO DON'T HAVE TO DO
>>>MILITARY SERVICE.  WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>>peace.
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 04:42:35 GMT, cartman@southpark.com (Eric Cartman)
>>wrote:
>>>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:28:39 GMT, management.dolitle@omcs.com.au
>>>(Scott Steel) wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:20:36 GMT, zsero@bigfoot.com (Zev Sero) wrote:
>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James) wrote:
>>
>>>>>The publication of a portion of the membership list of One Nation is
>>>>>in no way comparable to your Nazi heroes' making up of lists of Jews
>>>>>to murder.  Neither Mark Leibler nor anyone else involved in AIR has
>>>>>given the slightest indication that they might be prone to violence
>>>>>against One Nation members.
>>
>>>>Im sure they havent.
>>>>But they printed the List with the expectation of intimidating One
>>>>Nation members.This is not acceptable in a country with a right to
>>>>free political association.
>>
>>>>>  It's clear that the purpose of publishing
>>>>>the list was to shame these people who have lent a hand to that unworthy
>>>>>cause. 
>>
>>>>To "shame" these people?
>>>>Who  is Leibler to define whom needs "shaming"?
>>>>Since when did that little imp carry the collective conscience of
>>>>Australia?
>>
>>>Seems to be a preoccupation of the people of Jehovah.



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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:53:28 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:00:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>Canadian Press, and the prestigious national TV program W5,yesterday
>>3rd November 1998,  both have confirmed that Israel's killer group
>>MOSSAD is still using Canadian passports for the Mossad terrorists.
>
>
>>What is even more hypocritical, is that the present communist
>>government of Canada, supports the criminal activities of the zionist
>>state of Israel and the MOSSAD CRIMINALS, with Canadian taxpayer
>>money!!
>>
>>
>>The media now report that Canada has one of its spies resident in
>>Israel, as permanent liaison with the MOSSAD terrorists!!!
>>
>>
>>On 12 Oct 1997 16:22:24 GMT, intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:
>>
>>>Help the assassins, heck no !
>>
>>>THEY HAVE ALL BEEN ACCEPTED INTO CANADA AS REFUGEES.
>>
>>>We love all the vermin of the world !  
>>
>>>Especially criminals !!!
>>
>>Such as the JEW Mafia from Russia, dope dealers from Viet Nam, faggots
>>spreading AIDS from Poland, and white collar criminals from Israel,
>>plus lots of other bogus refugees!!!



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Subject: INTERPOL  wants  Jew war criminal.
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:07:44 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:12 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Translated from Polish:
>>>
>>>>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.
>>>
>>>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>>>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>>>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>>>
>>>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>>>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>>>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>>>Poland).
>>>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>>>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>>>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>>>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>>>big. 
>>>
>>>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>>>again came back to Poland. 
>>>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>>>He should.....
>>>
>>>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>>>



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Subject: Hitler's Jew Army
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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:07:04 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:28:11 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>>wrote:

>>>>Hitler's Jewish Army
>>>>
>>>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>>>>speaking of World War Two.
>>>>
>>>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing what
>>>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>>>
>>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>>>'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf
>>>>Hitler's knowledge and approval.
>>>>
>>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including
>>>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to
>>>>100,000 troops."
>>>>
>>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>>>Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's
>>>>Cross.
>>>>
>>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>>>
>>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish
>>>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>>>
>>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew
>>>>and who is an Aryan.''
>>>>
>>>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>>>
>>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>>>
>>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>>>(kapos).
>>>>
>>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>>
>>>>Sources:
>>>>
>>>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>>>
>>>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>>>
>>>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.



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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:15:28 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:20:03 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:35:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>>>>On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:15:39 GMT, adam.radek@england.com wrote:
>>>>>http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/news/21friedman.shtml
>>>
>>>>>The Village Voice
>>>>>22May98
>>>
>>>If the following story is true, why has INTERPOL not done anything??
>>>Just because the criminals are JEWS??
>>>
>>>
>>>>The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World
>>>
>>>>According to the FBI and Israeli Intelligence, Semion Mogilevich Rules
>>>>Over an Arms-Trafficking, Money-Laundering, Drug-Running, and
>>>>Art-Smuggling 'Red Mafia'
>>>
>>>>by Robert I. Friedman
>>>
>>>
>>>>In two posh villas outside  the small town of Ricany, near Prague, one
>>>>of the most dreaded mob families in the world savagely murders its
>>>>terrified victims. The  mob's young enforcers, trained by veterans of
>>>>the Afghanistan war, are infamous for their extreme brutality. Their
>>>>quarry, usually businessmen who have balked at extortion demands, are
>>>>repeatedly stabbed and tortured, then mutilated before they are
>>>>butchered. The carnage is so hideous that it has scared the daylights
>>>>out of competing crime groups in the area.
>>>
>>>>The torture chambers are run by what international police officials call
>>>>the Red Mafia, a notorious  Russian mob family that in onlysix years has
>>>>become a nefarious global crime cartel. Based in Budapest, it haskey
>>>>centers in New York, Pennsylvania, Southern California, and as far away
>>>>as New Zealand.
>>>>
>>>>The enigmatic leader of the Red Mafia is a  52-year-old Ukrainian-born
>>>>JEW named Semion Mogilevich. He is a shadowy figure known as the
>>>>''Brainy Don''--he holds an economics degree from  the University of
>>>>Lvov--and until now, he has never  been exposed by the media. But the
>>>>Voice has  obtained hundreds of pages of classified FBI and  Israeli
>>>>intelligence documents from August 1996, and   these documents--as well
>>>>as recent interviews with a key criminal associate and with dozens of
>>>>law  enforcement sources here and abroad--describe him as someone who
>>>>has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel and Eastern Europe.
>>>
>>>>''He's the most powerful mobster in the world,'' crows Monya Elson, who
>>>>is listed in classified documents as one of Mogilevich's closest
>>>>associates and  partners in prostitution and money laundering rings. The
>>>>Brighton Beach-based Elson, who once led a pack of thugs and killers
>>>>known as Monya's Brigada,  is currently in the Metropolitan Correctional
>>>>Center in  lower Manhattan awaiting trial for three murders and numerous
>>>>extortions.
>>>
>>>>In July 1993, after Elson was grievously wounded by rival mobsters in a
>>>>bloody shoot-out outside his Brooklyn apartment building, Mogilevich
>>>>spirited him out of the country. Mogilevich then set up his Russian
>>>>Jewish refugee friend in an alleged massive  money-laundering scheme in
>>>>Fano, Italy, where he was eventually arrested and extradited back to
>>>>America. Elson, an integral part of the Red Mafia, had been one of the
>>>>most feared mobsters in Brighton Beach, ground zero for Russian
>>>>organized crime in America, which has exploded here following
>>>>perestroika.
>>>>
>>>>''If I tell on Mogilevich, Interpol will give me $20 million,'' boasted
>>>>Elson. ''I lived with him. I'm his partner, don't forget. We are very,
>>>>very close friends. I don't mean close, I mean very, very close. He's my
>>>>best friend.'' Nevertheless, after extensive interviews over the course
>>>>of the last six months, Elson ultimately confirmed some of the details
>>>>about Mogilevich contained in the classified FBI and Israeli documents.
>>>>
>>>>Allegations of Mogilevich's devilish array of criminal activities are
>>>>extensively detailed in the reports:The FBI and Israeli intelligence
>>>>assert that he traffics in nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes,
>>>>precious gems, and stolen art. His contract hit squads operate in the
>>>>U.S. and Europe. He controls everything that goes in and out of Moscow's
>>>>Sheremetyevo International Airport, a ''smugglers' paradise,'' says
>>>>Elson. Mogilevich bought a bankrupt airline in a former Central Asian
>>>>Soviet republic for millions of dollars in cash so he could haul heroin
>>>>out of the Golden Triangle. Most worrisome to U.S. authorities is
>>>>Mogilevich's apparently legal purchase of virtually the entire Hungarian
>>>>armaments industry, jeopardizing regional security, NATO, and the war
>>>>against terrorism.
>>>>
>>>>In one typical criminal deal, Mogilevich and two Moscow-based gangsters
>>>>sold $20 million worth of pilfered Warsaw Pact weapons from East
>>>>Germany,  including ground-to-air missiles and 12 armored troop
>>>>carriers, according to the classified Israeli and FBI documents. The
>>>>buyer was Iran, says a top-level U.S. Customs official who requested
>>>>anonymity.
>>>>
>>>>In another deal, an FBI informant told the bureau that one of
>>>>Mogilevich's chief lieutenants in Los Angeles met two Russians from New
>>>>York City with Genovese crime family ties to broker a scheme to dump
>>>>American toxic waste in Russia. Mogilevich's man from L.A. said the Red
>>>>Mafia would dispose of  the toxic waste in the Chernobyl region,
>>>>''probably through payoffs to the decontamination authorities there,''
>>>>says a classified FBI report.
>>>>
>>>>Mogilevich is particularly intrigued by art fraud. In early 1993, he
>>>>reached an agreement with the  leaders of the powerful Solntsevskaya
>>>>crime family in Moscow to invest huge sums of money in a joint venture:
>>>>acquiring a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest. The business,
>>>>according to classified FBI documents, was to serve as a front for the
>>>>acquisition of jewelry, antiques, and art, which the Solntsevskaya mob
>>>>had stolen from churches and museums in Russia, including the Hermitage
>>>>in St. Petersburg. The gangsters also robbed the homes of  art
>>>>collectors and even broke into synagogues in Germany and Eastern Europe
>>>>to steal rare religious books and Torahs.
>>>>
>>>>Mogilevich's operation, again in collusion with the Solntsevskaya mob,
>>>>also purchased a large jewelry factory in Budapest. Russian antiques,
>>>>such as Faberge eggs, are sent to Budapest for ''restoration.''
>>>>Mogilevich's men ship the genuine Faberge eggs to  an unwitting
>>>>Sotheby's auction house in London for sale, then send fake Faberge eggs
>>>>as well as other ''restored'' objects back to Moscow.
>>>>
>>>>MOGILEVICH'S EARLY years are murky. Soviet authorities first learned of
>>>>his criminal activities in the 1970s, when he was a member of the
>>>>Liubertskaya crime group that operated in the Moscow suburb of  the same
>>>>name. He was involved in petty thefts and counterfeiting.
>>>>
>>>>But Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the mid
>>>>1980s, when tens of thousands of  Jewish refugees were hurriedly
>>>>immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
>>>>assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
>>>>goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
>>>>currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
>>>>profits.
>>>>
>>>>In the 1980s, he established a petroleum  import-export company, Arbat
>>>>International, and registered it in Alderney, one of the Channel
>>>>Islands, which is known to be a tax haven. One of his partners--with a
>>>>quarter share of the company--was Vyacheslav Ivankov, the legendary
>>>>Russian criminal who in March 1992 became Godfather of the Russian mob
>>>>in America. Ivankov was convicted in 1996 of extorting two Russian-born
>>>>Wall Street stockbrokers. He now resides in Raybrook, a Federal prison
>>>>in upstate New York.
>>>>
>>>>In early 1990, Mogilevich fled Moscow, as did many other dons, to avoid
>>>>the gangland wars that were then roiling the capital. Mogilevich and his
>>>>top henchmen settled in Israel, where they received  Israeli
>>>>citizenship. He ''succeeded in building a bridgehead in Israel'' and
>>>>''developing significant and influential [political] ties,'' says an
>>>>Israeli intelligence report.
>>>>
>>>>Mogilevich is married to a Hungarian national, Katalin Papp. That
>>>>marriage allowed him to legally emigrate to Budapest, Hungary, in 1991,
>>>>where he began to build the foundations of his global criminal empire.
>>>>He bought a string of nightclubs in Prague, Riga, and  Kiev--called the
>>>>''Black and White Clubs''--that has become one of the world's foremost
>>>>centers of  prostitution. Monya Elson is a partner in the clubs,
>>>>according to his own admission and classified FBI  documents. The Black
>>>>and White Club in Budapest became the hub of Mogilevich's operations. He
>>>>quickly built a highly structured criminal organization,  in the mode of
>>>>a traditional American mafia family.  Indeed, many of the organization's
>>>>250 members are his relatives.
>>>>
>>>>To the consternation of international law enforcement officials,
>>>>Mogilevich began to legally purchase much of Hungary's arms industry.
>>>>The legitimate companies he bought include:
>>>>
>>>>-Magnex 2000: a giant magnet manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>>-Digep General Machine Works: an artillery shell, mortar, and fire
>>>>equipment manufacturer, which was financed by a $3.8 million loan from
>>>>the London  branch of Banque Francaise De L'orean.
>>>>
>>>>-Army Co-op: a mortar and anti-aircraft gun factory. Army Co-op was
>>>>established in 1991 by two  Hungarian nationals, both in the local arms
>>>>industry,  who were looking for a partner. Mogilevich has bought 95 per
>>>>cent of Army Co-op through another Channel Island holding company,
>>>>Arigon, Ltd., and also deals extensively with the Ukraine, selling oil
>>>>products to the Ukrainian railway administration.
>>>>
>>>>These transactions enabled the Mogilevich organization to become a
>>>>direct owner of the Hungarian armaments industry. In 1994, he purchased
>>>>a license enabling him to buy and sell  weapons. Now a legitimate
>>>>armaments manufacturer, one of his companies participated in at least
>>>>one arms exhibition in the U.S., where it displayed mortars modified by
>>>>Israel.
>>>>
>>>>Like mob bosses everywhere, Mogilevich couldn't  sustain his empire
>>>>without the help of corrupt police and politicians. There is one
>>>>documented example of  a criminal associate of Mogilevich mingling with
>>>>American politicians. In March 1994, Vahtang Ubiriya, one of
>>>>Mogilevich's top lieutenants, was photographed by the FBI at a tony
>>>>Republican Party fundraiser in Dallas, says an FBI report. Ubiriya, a
>>>>high-ranking official in the Ukrainian railway administration, has a
>>>>prior conviction for bribery in the Ukraine.
>>>>
>>>>In Europe and Russia, the ''corruption of police and public officials
>>>>has been part of the Semion  Mogilevich Organization's modus operandi,''
>>>>says a classified FBI document. ''The corruptive influence of  the
>>>>Mogilevich organization apparently extends to the Russian security
>>>>system. During 1995, two colonels from Department of the Russian
>>>>Presidential Security Service . . . traveled to Hungary under commercia
>>>>cover to meet with Mogilevich . . . seeking  information for use in the
>>>>Russian political campaign.'' An Israeli associate of Mogilevich met
>>>>with the two colonels and provided intelligence.  Mogilevich also paid
>>>>off a Russian judge to secure  Vyacheslav Ivankov's early release from a
>>>>Siberian prison, where he was doing hard time for robbery and torture,
>>>>according to U.S. court records and  classified FBI documents.
>>>>
>>>>On April 28, the German national television network ZDF reported that
>>>>the BND (the German intelligence agency) had entered into a secret
>>>>contract with  Mogilevich to provide information on the Russian  mob.
>>>>The charges were made by several sources,   including Pierre Delilez, a
>>>>highly regarded Belgium  police investigator who specializes in Russian
>>>>Organized Crime. Because of this deal with the BND,  police in Belgium,
>>>>Germany, and Austria have complained that it is now impossible to
>>>>investigate  the ''Brainy Don.'' If the television report is accurate,
>>>>one possible motive for BND's deal, says a U.S. law enforcement expert
>>>>on the Russian mob, is that the Germans recently ''pulled their people
>>>>out of Moscow  because they didn't like the level of cooperation they
>>>>were getting from the Russian authorities on the  Russian mob.''
>>>>Gangsters, said this source, often talk to intelligence agencies about
>>>>their rivals.
>>>>
>>>>MOGILEVICH'S MAIN activity in the U.S. appears to be money laundering,
>>>>says a classified FBI report.  He has set up companies in Los
>>>>Angeles--FNJ Trade Management--and Newton, Pennsylvania--YBM  Magnex
>>>>International--as well as dozens of shell  companies, which have
>>>>received more than $30 million from Arigon, Ltd., the center of
>>>>Mogilevich's  financial operations.
>>>>
>>>>Last Friday, U.S. Attorney Robert Courtney, head of  the organized-crime
>>>>strike force, led a a joint FBI,  IRS, INS, and Customs raid of YBM's
>>>>offices in  Newton. Cartons of documents were seized, with  Canadian and
>>>>U.S. police citing the company's alleged ties to Russian organized
>>>>crime. YBM is  publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and  two
>>>>days before Friday's raid, trading in its stock was suspended by
>>>>Canadian authorities.
>>>>
>>>>The president and CEO of YBM is Jacob Bogatin, a professor of physical
>>>>metallurgy. In May 1996, he contacted the FBI in Philadelphia to find
>>>>out why the  INS had denied visas to YBM employees arriving from Hungary
>>>>and the Ukraine. When he was rebuffed, he had intermediaries step
>>>>forward and pester the FBI. The State Department has banned Mogilevich
>>>>himself from obtaining a U.S. visa because he's on the department's
>>>>watch list of  international organized-crime figures. Nevertheless, he
>>>>has surreptitiously entered America under aliases and on visitor visas
>>>>issued in Tel Aviv to visit Elson  and Ivankov.
>>>>
>>>>Bogatin admitted during a telephone interview that Mogilevich owns his
>>>>company. When asked if he knew that numerous law enforcement agencies
>>>>here and abroad considered Mogilevich to be a leader of  one of the most
>>>>ruthless organized-crime families in  recent times, Bogatin replied,
>>>>''We have an investors relations guy. You want to talk with him about
>>>>this stuff.'' He added that he had read allegations in the Eastern
>>>>European press that his boss was a Mafia don, but didn't believe them.
>>>>YBM vehemently denies that it is connected to Russian organized crime or
>>>>has engaged in any criminal activities.
>>>>
>>>>Bogatin is no stranger to the mob, however. His brother, David, a top
>>>>Russian crime figure who once served in North Vietnam for the Soviets in
>>>>an anti-aircraft unit, is now serving an eight-year term in  a New York
>>>>State prison for a multimillion-dollar gasoline tax fraud scheme. Just
>>>>prior to trial, he had jumped bail, fleeing to Poland. There he set up
>>>>the  first commercial banks, which moved vast sums of  money controlled
>>>>by Russian wiseguys. (This after handing over his mortgages for five
>>>>pricey Trump Tower apartments to a Genovese associate. The mortgages
>>>>were liquidated and the funds were moved  through a mafia-controlled
>>>>bank in Chelsea.)  Eventually he was caught and returned to the U.S. In
>>>>the meantime, he lived like royalty in a five-star  Viennese hotel,
>>>>surrounded by a praetorian guard of 125 Polish parachutists, some of
>>>>them bedecked in shiny gold uniforms.
>>>>
>>>>Mogilevich has not refrained from associating with known killers in
>>>>America, prime among them Elson and Ivankov. A confidential informant
>>>>told the FBI that Vladimir Berkovich, an L.A. resident, is a chief
>>>>lieutenant in Mogilevich's organization and has arranged contract
>>>>killings here, supplying the  weapons and spiriting the killers out of
>>>>the country. The visas, says the report, were obtained through the Palm
>>>>Terrace restaurant, a watering hole for Russian gangsters, which
>>>>Berkovich owns. Berkovich told the Voice that he is aware of the
>>>>government's charges, and that they are ''total bullshit.'' Although he
>>>>has no criminal record in the U.S., Berkovich's son, Oleg, was convicted
>>>>in Los Angeles of solicitation to commit murder on October 11, 1989. He
>>>>was sentenced to four years. Oleg's business card  identified his
>>>>employer as Magnex, Ltd., a company owned by Mogilevich in Budapest.
>>>>Oleg was recently arrested in Hungary on unspecified charges but was
>>>>released.
>>>>
>>>>Oleg's uncle, the colorful Lazar Berkovich, whose last known address was
>>>>New York City, arrived in the  Big Apple after having survived a
>>>>shootout with Italian gangsters, says his brother Vladimir. The FBI
>>>>report claims that Lazar was head of Russian criminal activities in
>>>>Italy prior to his coming to America to recuperate from his wounds,
>>>>though Vladimir  Bercovich denies that Lazar was ever connected to the
>>>>Russian mob.
>>>>
>>>>Israeli and U.S. law enforcement sources agree that the Red Mafia,
>>>>though in existence for a mere six years, has become one of the most
>>>>formidable Russian organized-crime families in the world. Strongest in
>>>>the Ukraine, Hungary, the Czech  Republic, and the U.S., Mogilevich has
>>>>increased his strength by forging ties with other powerful Russian mob
>>>>groups as well as with the Italian Camorra. His reported ties to the
>>>>German BND and ex-police officers in Hungary keep him informed of police
>>>>efforts to penetrate his organization. ''He also  ingratiates himself
>>>>with the police by providing information on other [Russian crime]
>>>>groups'  activities, thus appearing to be a cooperative good  citizen,''
>>>>says a classfied FBI report. This, along with  his strong leadership
>>>>qualities, his acute financial  skills, his talented and highly educated
>>>>associates,  and his use of cutting-edge technology, has so far  made
>>>>the ''Brainy Don'' impervious to prosecution.
>>>>
>>>>This document last modified Friday, May 22, 1998, 10:31 AM EDT.



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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:18:04 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:05:12 GMT, bark2000@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>>It would be better of you to take your medicine instead of writing
>>hundreds stupid messages like this one.
>
>
>Thanks for republishing all the jokes.
>People need a joke, so they can laugh at their misfortunes.
>I am sure that the Jews will thank you also.
>
>
>
>>> On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:48:22 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>> >JEWISH JOKES
>>> >
>>> >How was copper wiring invented?
>>> >Two Jews fighting over a penny!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
>>> >They put parking meters on the roof!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Why is money green?
>>> >Because Jews pick it before it's ripe!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >What candy did Hitler hate more then any other?
>>> >Jew Jew Beans... Although I heard he enjoyed them "roasted!"
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >If Tarzan and Jane were Jewish, what would Cheetah be?
>>> >A fur coat!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Why don't Jews eat pork?
>>> >They may be a lot of things, but CANNIBALS they're not!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Why aren't Jews attacked by sharks?
>>> >Professional courtesy!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
>>> >Let one in, and he'll keep the rest out.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >What's the Jewish version of foreplay?
>>> >Half an hour of begging.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
>>> >She's the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Did you hear about the new tires, Firestein?
>>> >They not only stop on a dime, they also pick it up!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >What's the difference between a circumcision and crucifixion?
>>> >In a crucifixion, they throw the whole Jew out!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
>>> >Someone dropped a quarter!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Why do Jews have such big noses?
>>> >Because air is free.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >What did the Jewish mother ask her daughter when she learned she had
>>> >an
>>> >affair?
>>> >Who catered it?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >What happens when a Jew with an erection walks into a wall?
>>> >He breaks his nose.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >What's a Jewish dilemma?
>>> >Free ham.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >What's the difference between a Jewish bitch and a barracuda?
>>> >Nail polish.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >What's the difference between an elephant and a Jew?
>>> >An elephant eventually forgets.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >A nigger was walking down the street, kicking some rubbish out of his
>>> >way,
>>> >when he spotted something amid the trash that gleamed
>>> >strangely. It urned out to be an oddly shaped bottle, and when he
>>> >rubbed it, a
>>> >Jewish genie appeared. "I'll give you two wishes," quipped
>>> >the genie. "Far out," said the black man. "First, I want to be white,
>>> >uptight,
>>> >and out of sight!" Second, I want to be surrounded by warm,
>>> >sweet pussy. So the genie turned him into a TAMPON! The moral of this
>>> >story:
>>> >You can't get anything from a Jew without strings
>>> >attached!
>
>
>>> >How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
>>> >Marry her!
>
>>> >Why do jewish bitches only sleep with circumcised men?
>>> >They want 20% off everything!
>
>>> >What's the difference between between karate and judo?
>>> >Karate is a form of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.
>
>>> >Did you hear that the limbo was invented by the Jews?
>>> >Yeah, from sneaking into pay toilets.
>
>>> >What's the definition of a queer Jew?
>>> >Someone that likes girls more then money.
>
>>> >What do you call ten Jewish bitches in a basement?
>>> >A WHINE cellar.
>>> >
>>> >Why did the Jewish mother have herself entombed at Bloomingdales?
>>> >So her daughter would visit at least twice a week.
>
>>> >What's the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
>>> >A vulture waits until you're dead to eat your heart out!
>
>
>>> >On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0700, "WaRR" 
>>> >wrote:
>
>>> >>what do you get when you cross a jewish women and an arab women??
>>> >>oil of no lay!!
>
>>> >>=what is the difference between karate and judo?
>>> >>karate is the art of self-defense, and judo is what bagels aremade of.
>
>>> >>=i knew a jewish woman once who thought the apostle's creed was
>>> >>what fought rocky balboa.
>
>>> >>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a toilet?
>>> >>a toilet doesn't follow you around for 9 months after you use it.
>
>>> >>=did you hear that al italia and el al were merging to form a new airline?
>>> >>it's called well i'll tell ya.=what do you call a jewish woman's waterbed?
>>> >>the dead sea. second prize: lake placid.
>
>>> >>=how was copper wire invented?
>>> >> by 2 jews fighting over a penny.
>
>>> >>=why are jewish men circumcised?
>>> >> because jewish women won't buy anything unless it's 20% off.
>
>>> >>=what do you call an uncircumcised jewish baby?
>>> >>a girl.
>
>>> >>=what do you get when you cross a jewish british princess & a computer?
>>> >>a computer that never goes down on you.
>
>>> >>=what's a jewish british princess' favorite wine?
>>> >> i wanna go to palmsprings.
>
>>> >>=how do you know a jewish british princess has an orgasm?
>>> >>she drops her nail file.
>
>>> >>=what do you have when you get 3 jewish british princesses together
>>> >>with 3 other women who have yeast infections?a whine and cheese party.
>
>>> >>=how many jewish british princesses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>>> >>two, one to get a diet coke and one to call daddy.
>
>>> >>=why do jewish girls like prostitution?
>>> >>because they can sell it again and again and again.
>
>>> >>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and jello?
>>> >>jello moves when you eat it.
>
>>> >>=how does a jewish british princess do it doggie style?
>>> >>she makes him beg for an hour.
>
>>> >>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a catholic
>>> >>british princess?
>>> >>the catholic british princess has fake jewelry and real orgasms.
>
>>> >>=what's the difference between jews and canoes?
>>> >>canoes tip.   ( THIS ONE FREAKS ME OUT :)))))
>
>>> >>=what's the difference between jews and pizzas?
>>> >>pizzas don't scream when you put them in the oven.
>
>>> >>=what is a jewish dilemma?
>>> >>free ham.
>
>>> >>=what do you call a jewish piano?
>>> >>a cash register.
>
>>> >>=how many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
>>> >>none. they are used to sitting in the dark.
>
>>> >>=did you hear about the rabbi who did free circumcisions?
>>> >>he only took tips.
>
>>> >>=how many jews can you fit in a vw?
>>> >>two in the front, two in the back, and ten thousand in the ash tray.
>
>>> >>=a priest, a baptist minister, and a rabbi were asked how they would
>>> >>divide up some gold coins between themselves and god. the priest
>>> >>replied, "i'd draw a line down the middle of the room, throw the
>>> >>coins in the air, and whatever landed on one side goes to god,
>>> >>the other to me." the minister replied, "i'd draw a circle in
>>> >>the middle of the room, and whatever lands inside is for god,
>>> >>outside for me." the rabbi's answer was, he wouldn't draw any
>>> >>line, just throw the money in the air and whatever god caughthe could keep.
>
>>> >>=an italian, a jew, and a homosexual were walking down the street and
>>> >>were hit by the same bolt of lightning. next thing they know they're
>>> >>in front of st. peter begging for a second chance. "ok," he says,
>>> >>"but on one condition: you must give up that which you love the most.
>>> >>if you don't, you go straight to hell." after agreeing, they find
>>> >>themselves back on the street and they start walking again. a few
>>> >>blocks down they pass a pizza store. "i can't help myself!" says the
>>> >>italian... he goes in, takes a bite of pizza, and poof!, he
>>> >>disappears. so the jew and the homosexual continue walking
>>> >>down the street. the jew sees a penny on the sidewalk. "i can't
>>> >>help myself!" he says. he reaches for the penny and poof! the
>>> >>homosexual disappears.
>
>>> >>yours truly
>>> >>WaRR
>



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:10:07 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 15:56:19 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:

>>One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>>may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>>who were in the German military!!!
>One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>who were in the German military!!!
>
>Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide
>for
>themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.


>someone@somewhere.com wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>> Holman) wrote: 
>> >Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims 
>> >made here.
>
>
>
>> >1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>> >DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>
>> >        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>> >individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>> >witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No 
>> >mounds of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing 
>> >the job, no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no 
>> >records, no demographic statistics.
>
>> >        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>> >forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>> >comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>> >figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>
>> Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>> half of the original 600,000 JEWS in Germany were in the German
>> military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>> extort money from gullible governments!!!
> 
>> >        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>> >RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>> >WORLD WAR TWO?
> 
>> >        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>> >interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German 
>> >war effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of 
>> >their race or national origin alone.
> 
>> >        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>> >CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
> 
>> >        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>> >their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>> >Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist 
>> >subversion during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were 
>> >highly overrepresented in government, commercial, and media 
>> >positions.
>
>> >However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger 
>> >of internment once the war broke out.
>
>> >        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>> >Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply 
>> >because the German government had removed Jews from influential 
>> >positions and transferred power back to the German people. The 
>> >boycott order and the Jewish war against Germany were reported in 
>> >the world print and broadcast media of the time. False stories of 
>> >German "death camps" were in fact circulated even before the outbreak 
>> >of World War Two. Therefore the German view of the Jewish people 
>> >as enemy aliens would seem to have been fully justified.
> 
>> >        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>> >DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
> 
>> >        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>> >gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
> 
>> >        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS 
>> >IT WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT 
>> >WAS?
>
>> >        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>> >murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>> >were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>> >chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official 
>> >Holocaust lore because it became too difficult to maintain in 
>> >the face of known fact and because Dachau was in the Allied 
>> >occupation zone where access to the camp was too 
>> >easy and unrestricted.
> 
>> >        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>> >version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning 
>> >of the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>> >noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>> >official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>> >Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
> 
>> >        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF 
>> >THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED 
>> >AT AUSCHWITZ?
> 
>> >        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz 
>> >could not possibly have been used to carry out executions; 
>> >it is far too small and it is not even airtight. 
>> >In the 1980s, American expert Fred Leuchter, who builds gas chambers 
>> >for American penal systems, took scrapings from the walls 
>> >of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>> >analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit 
>> >is a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
> 
>> Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>> 1949, long after the war???
>
>> >        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE 
>> >PURPOSE?
> 
>> >        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>> >(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in 
>> >the same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>> >correctional systems throughout the United States today.
> 
>> >        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
> 
>> >        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of 
>> >hydrocyanic gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, 
>> >including the fumigation of lice-infested clothing, 
>> >the purpose for which it was applied at Auschwitz. 
>> >Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>> >commonly used and available today.
> 
>> >        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>> >COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
> 
>> >        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>> >brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>> >figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>> >read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>> >Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>> >cross examined.
> 
>> >        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA 
>> >FUMIGATED WITH ZYKLON-B?
> 
>> >        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>> >and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>> >only are employed.
> 
>> >        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>> >ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>> >THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
> 
>> >        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened 
>> >like that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered 
>> >the same fate as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
> 
>> >        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>> >CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>> >BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
> 
>> >        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the 
>> >six million figure as well.
> 
>> >        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT 
>> >SECRET FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE 
>> >POPE, THE VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND 
>> >ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE NOT KNOW?
> 
>> >        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>> >British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>> >been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>> >were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a 
>> >potentially powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any 
>> >contemporary evidence at all during the war that such an event was 
>> >occurring.
>
>> >        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>> >DURING THE WAR?
> 
>> >        About 300,000.
> 
>> >        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
> 
>> >        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>> >Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably 
>> >appears whenever people are jammed together for long periods 
>> >without bathing.It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. 
>> >Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant 
>> >purposes, more Jews  might have survived the concentration camps. 
>> >Jewish prisoners (as well as many others) also died from starvation 
>> >and lack of medical attention towards the end of the war 
>> >when virtually all rail and road transport had come to a standstill 
>> >due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
> 
>> >        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 
>> >300,000 DIED?
>
>> >        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>> >deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>> >exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>> >was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>> >identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>> >of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>> >the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
> 
>> >        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>> >BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD 
>> >HAVE BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
> 
>> >        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>> >afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.
> 
>> >        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
> 
>> >        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed 
>> >by flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated 
>> >in open pits.
>> >[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>> >observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>> >American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely 
>> >to destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in 
>> >any other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim 
>> >otherwise are either parroting what they have been told without 
>> >bothering to check their facts, or else they are lying.]
>
>> >        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>> >BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A 
>> >BODY ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
> 
>> >        About two hours.
> 
>> >        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
> 
>> >        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead 
>> >from typhus and other diseases.
> 
>> >        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN 
>> >ALL THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE 
>> >MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO 
>> >INCINERATE DURING THE ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
> 
>> >        About 430,600.
> 
>> >        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
> 
>> >        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>> >per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>> >when in heavy operation.
> 
>> >        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>> >CORPSE?
> 
>> >        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>> >time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
> 
>> >        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>> >HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
> 
>> >        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>> >produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have 
>> >been no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz 
>> >area or anywhere else in Europe.
> 
>> >        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE 
>> >AIR, SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
> 
>> >        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the 
>> >immense amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the 
>> >camp, nor do they show any evidence of the alleged open 
>> >pits where the bodies were burned.
> 
>> >        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 
>> >THE WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
> 
>> >        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>> >September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>> >packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>> >full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second 
>> >World War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or 
>> >any of the wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
> 
>> >        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>> >liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of 
>> >articles claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". 
>> >This charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated 
>> >Jewish attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles 
>> >steadily in the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
> 
>> >        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
> 
>> >        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>> >Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>> >conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>> >literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>> >diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>> >adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from 
>> >the published text.
>>
>> >        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the 
>> >actual writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. 
>> >A Jewish judge in New York ordered the records of the court case 
>> >sealed for 100 years.
>> >When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>> >noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were 
>> >interpolations written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, 
>> >a writing instrument which was not invented until 1950. The original 
>> >diary was swiftly removed from exhibit and whisked away 
>> >into a safety deposit box inIsrael. It has never been produced for 
>> >examination since then despite repeated attempts by scholars to view 
>> >it.
> 
>> >        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>> >ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED 
>> >CORPSES AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
> 
>> >        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>> >Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>> >Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>> >man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>> >of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>> >historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>> >the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
> 
>> >        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>> >atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>> >remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>> >the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>> >laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>> >be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of 
>> >the fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme 
>> >left-wing views and are as quick to apologize for and explain 
>> >away Stalin's butcheries as they are to invent fraudulent crimes 
>> >attributed to Adolf Hitler. The almost universally leftist 
>> >political and social orientation of
>> >Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind 
>> >when examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>> >important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>> >the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken 
>> >McVay's refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General 
>> >Secretary Smith asked him why he did not condemn the 
>> >mass murders of Stalin.)
> 
>> >        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>> >SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
> 
>> >        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>> >predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would 
>> >certainlyhave been in a position to learn about it. Since no such 
>> >plan existed,the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
> 
>> >        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>> >EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
> 
>> >        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>> >deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come 
>> >tolight. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>> >Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering  
>> >the extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis 
>> >were meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were 
>> >seized by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied 
>> >archivists and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them 
>> >all. Nothing. Zip. Nada.
>
>> >        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>> >DURING THE WAR?
> 
>> >        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>> >from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>> >they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>> >official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>> >British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>> >Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>> >industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that 
>> >Eichmann was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered 
>> >in order to silence him.
> 
>
>> In Canada there was a detailed story in Toronto Life magazine about the 
>> roles  of the Reichman and Gestetner families in providing assistance 
>> to the Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public 
>> exposure,and have tried to restrict distribution of this news, 
>> which is available from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
> 
>
>
>> >        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED 
>> >BY THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
> 
>> >        Slightly less than four million.
> 
>> >        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE 
>> >THE NAZIS?
> 
>> >        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>> >kill them.
> 
>> >        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>> >HAPPENED TO THEM?
> 
>> >        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>> >States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 
>> >300,000, they are all accounted for.
> 
>> >        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>> >TODAY?
>
>> >        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>> >economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>> >sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>> >justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>> >dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>> >billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>> >growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>> >Jewish people to keep the scam going.
> 
>> >        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>> >WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
> 
>> >        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>> >They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, 
>> >not real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals 
>> >of events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>> >screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where 
>> >Jews are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and 
>> >the creative and financial sectors of film making.
> 
>> >        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>> >that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>> >begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, 
>> >the character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in 
>> >Spielberg's production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the 
>> >point of being unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost 
>> >saintly,  and yet none of those still living who remember 
>> >the man have a single good word to say about him. The real Schindler 
>> >was a confidence artist, a thief, a libertine and degenerate gambler 
>> >who indulged freely in forced sexual relations with young 
>> >female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>> >and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>> >money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>> >because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and 
>> >events like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with 
>> >the most bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
> 
>> >        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE 
>> >SOME ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
> 
>> >        Over 100, with more in the works.
> 
>> >        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>> >ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>
>> >        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>> >right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>> >freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>> >explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>> >unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>> >position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>> >genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>> >libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>> >subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>> >from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
> 
>> >        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>> >VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> >        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>> >always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>> >Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>> >called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>> >hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>> >express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>> >from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>> >have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>> >Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>> >ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>> >cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
> 
>> >        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>> >hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>> >giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those 
>> >who ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the 
>> >Holocaust are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
> 
>> >        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>> >him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>> >Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>> >Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an 
>> >arson attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of 
>> >show trials lasting over ten years, and after being finally acquitted 
>> >he has been denied Canadian citizenship and is still battling 
>> >attempts  to deport him to prison and torture in Germany.
>
>> >        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>> >kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>> >lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>> >pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>> >legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>> >abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>> >only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>> >pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>> >distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder 
>> >has been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists 
>> >have been stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure 
>> >in universities, victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs 
>> >in the mail, and subjected to constant death threats 
>> >from Jews and Marxists.
>
>> >        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent 
>> >people who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by 
>> >trying to kill, imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. 
>> >More than anything else, the behavior of the Jews and the 
>> >governments they influence so strongly proves that the 
>> >Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>> >neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>> >silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people 
>> >who believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults 
>> >and torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the 
>> >part of the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have 
>> >imposed the most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of 
>> >humanity, and have used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, 
>> >steal another people's country, and then to slaughter that country's 
>> >original inhabitants at will, as according to National Public Radio 
>> >they are doing even now as I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
> 
>> >        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>> >REVISIONISTS?
> 
>> >        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than 
>> >ever to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the 
>> >earth understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded 
>> >them, and robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust 
>> >lie. There can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the
>> >Holocaust will be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at 
>> >large for what it is: a politically inspired hoax.
> 
>> >NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>> >pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>> >information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>> >ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>
>
> 
>One MUST question the validity of the EXTORTION on gullible
>governments
>by the damn JEWS for alleged compensation.
>
>
>
>If half of the German JEWS were in the German military, as the
>attached
>article documents, why give them any money??
> 
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
> From: stefan lemieszewski 
> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
> 
> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals.
>One
> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
> 
> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in
>England
> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would
>like
> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
> Stefan Lemieszewski
> 
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> North Shore News
> February 2, 1997
> 
> Insights from abroad
> Doug Collins
> 
> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
> that is ignored in Canada.
> 
> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
> 
> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two
>pages
> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
> 
> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of
>whom
> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
> 
> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five
>major
> generals, and 23 colonels.
> 
> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
> more. The research is continuing.
> 
> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied
>France
> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
> alive.
> 
> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
> 
> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
> 
> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked
>in
> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
> 
> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews
>and
> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long
>investigation
> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
> documents in the process.
> 
> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed
>that
> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew>
>could 
> ever have fought for Hitler.
> 
> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
> 
> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
> 
> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may
>be
> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers
>of
> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
> 
> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into
>an
> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who
>can
> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of
>the
> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
> 
> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor
>Helmut
> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
> was a Jew.
> 
> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
> 
> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or
>even
> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
> 
> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was
>Jewish.
> 
> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom
>he
> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced
>to a
> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
> 
> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
> 
> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and
>obtained,
> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox
>Lubavitcher
> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944
>for
> plotting against Hitler.
> 
> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via
>Latvia,
> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a
>Jew
> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler
>saw
> to it that he was discharged from the army.
> 
> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time
>magazine. I
> wonder why?
> 
> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and
>the
> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published
>in
> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>
>sven88



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:02:37 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:42 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:



>>>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>
>>>>DAILY MAIL
>>>>Monday June 15 1998
>>>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>>>to clear his name.
>>
>>>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>>>to examine their records.
>>
>>>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>>>with the family.
>>
>>>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>>>end of this month.
>>
>>>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>>>Britain today.'
>>
>>>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:45:33 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:40:06 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>>wrote:

>>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>>Christian natives.
>>>
>>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>>humanity in Palestine.
>>>
>>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>>
>>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>>
>>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>>
>>>
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:22:09 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:29:05 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:26:24 -0400, "Dan Parker"
>> wrote:

>>>Traffickers' New Cargo:
>>>Naive Slavic Women
>>>By MICHAEL SPECTER
>>>
>>>Ramle, Israel—Irina always assumed that her beauty would somehow rescue her
>>>from the poverty and hopelessness of village life. A few months ago, after
>>>answering a vague ad in a small Ukrainian newspaper, she slipped off a tour
>>>boat when it put in at Haifa, hoping to make a bundle dancing naked on the
>>>tops of tables.
>>>
>>>She was 21, self-assured and glad to be out of Ukraine. Israel offered a new
>>>world, and for a week or two everything seemed possible. Then, one morning,
>>>she was driven to a brothel, where her boss burned her passport before her
>>>eyes.
>>>
>>>“I own you,” she recalled his saying. “You are my property, and you will
>>>work until you earn your way out. Don’t try to leave. You have no papers and
>>>you don’t speak Hebrew. You will be arrested and deported. Then we will get
>>>you and bring you back.”
>>>
>>>It happens every single day. Not just in Israel, which has deported nearly
>>>1,500 Russian and Ukrainian women like Irina in the past three years. But
>>>throughout the world, where selling naive and desperate young women into
>>>sexual bondage has become one of the fastest-growing criminal enterprises in
>>>the robust global economy.
>>>
>>>The international bazaar for women is hardly new, of course. Asians have
>>>been its basic commodity for decades. But economic hopelessness in the
>>>Slavic world has opened what experts call the most lucrative market of all
>>>to criminal gangs that have flourished since the fall of Communism: Eastern
>>>European women with little to sustain them but their dreams. Pimps, law-
>>>enforcement officials and relief groups all agree that Ukrainian and Russian
>>>women are now the most valuable in the trade.
>>>
>>>Because their immigration is often illegal—and because some percentage of
>>>the women choose to work as prostitutes—statistics are difficult to assess.
>>>But the United Nations estimates that 4 million people throughout the world
>>>are trafficked each year—forced through lies and coercion to work against
>>>their will in many types of servitude. The International Organization for
>>>Migration has said that as many as 500,000 women are annually trafficked
>>>into Western Europe alone.
>>>
>>>Many end up like Irina. Stunned and outraged by the sudden order to
>>>prostitute herself, she simply refused. She was beaten and raped before she
>>>succumbed. Finally she got a break. The brothel was raided, and she was
>>>brought here to Neve Tirtsa in Ramle, the only women’s prison in Israel.
>>>Now, like hundreds of Ukrainian and Russian women with no documents or
>>>obvious forgeries, she is waiting to be sent home.
>>>
>>>“I don’t think the man who ruined my life will even be fined,” she said
>>>softly, slow tears filling her enormous green eyes. “You can call me a fool
>>>for coming here. That’s my crime. I am stupid. A stupid girl from a little
>>>village. But can people really buy and sell women and get away with it?
>>>Sometimes I sit here and ask myself if that really happened to me, if it can
>>>really happen at all.”
>>>
>>>Then, waving her arm toward the muddy prison yard, where Russian is spoken
>>>more commonly than Hebrew, she whispered one last thought: “I’m not the only
>>>one, you know. They have ruined us all.”
>>>
>>>Traffic Patterns: Russia and Ukraine Supply the Flesh
>>>
>>>Centered in Moscow and the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, the networks trafficking
>>>women run east to Japan and Thailand, where thousands of young Slavic women
>>>now work against their will as prostitutes, and west to the Adriatic Coast
>>>and beyond. The routes are controlled by Russian crime gangs based in
>>>Moscow. Even when they do not specifically move the women overseas, they
>>>provide security, logistical support, liaison with brothel owners in many
>>>countries and, usually, false documents.
>>>
>>>Women often start their hellish journey by choice. Seeking a better life,
>>>they are lured by local advertisements for good jobs in foreign countries at
>>>wages they could never imagine at home.
>>>
>>>In Ukraine alone, the number of women who leave is staggering. As many as
>>>400,000 women under 30 have gone in the past decade, according to their
>>>country’s interior ministry. The Thai Embassy in Moscow, which processes
>>>visa applications from Russia and Ukraine, says it receives nearly 1,000
>>>visa applications a day, most of these from women.
>>>
>>>Israel is a fairly typical destination. Prostitution is not illegal here,
>>>although brothels are, and with 250,000 foreign male workers—most of whom
>>>are single or here without their wives—the demand is great. Police officials
>>>estimate that there are 25,000 paid sexual transactions every day. Brothels
>>>are ubiquitous.
>>>
>>>None of the women seem to realize the risks they run until it is too late.
>>>Once they cross the border their passports will be confiscated, their
>>>freedoms curtailed and what little money they have taken from them at once.
>>>
>>>“You want to tell these kids that if something seems too good to be true it
>>>usually is,” said Lyudmilla Biryuk, a Ukrainian psychologist who has
>>>counseled women who have escaped or been released from bondage. “But you can
>>>’t imagine what fear and real ignorance can do to a person.”
>>>
>>>The women are smuggled by car, bus, boat and plane. Handed off in the dead
>>>of night, many are told they will pick oranges, work as dancers or as
>>>waitresses. Others have decided to try their luck at prostitution, usually
>>>for what they assume will be a few lucrative months. They have no idea of
>>>the violence that awaits them.
>>>
>>>The efficient, economically brutal routine—whether here in Israel, or in one
>>>of a dozen other countries—rarely varies. Women are held in apartments, bars
>>>and makeshift brothels; there they service, by their own count, as many as
>>>15 clients a day. Often they sleep in shifts, four to a bed. The best that
>>>most hope for is to be deported after the police finally catch up with their
>>>captors.
>>>
>>>Few ever testify. Those who do risk death. Last year in Istanbul, Turkey,
>>>according to Ukrainian police investigators, two women were thrown to their
>>>deaths from a balcony while six of their Russian friends watched.
>>>
>>>In Serbia, also last year, said a young Ukrainian woman who escaped in
>>>October, a woman who refused to work as a prostitute was beheaded in public.
>>>
>>>In Milan, Italy, a week before Christmas, the police broke up a ring that
>>>was holding auctions in which women abducted from the countries of the
>>>former Soviet Union were put on blocks, partially naked, and sold at an
>>>average price of just under $1,000.
>>>
>>>“This is happening wherever you look now,” said Michael Platzer, the Vienna,
>>>Austria-based head of operations for the U.N.’s Center for International
>>>Crime Prevention. “The Mafia is not stupid. There is less law enforcement
>>>since the Soviet Union fell apart and more freedom of movement. The earnings
>>>are incredible. The overhead is low—you don’t have to buy cars and guns.
>>>Drugs you sell once and they are gone. Women can earn money for a long
>>>time.”
>>>
>>>“Also,” he added, “the laws help the gangsters. Prostitution is semilegal in
>>>many places and that makes enforcement tricky. In most cases punishment is
>>>very light.”
>>>
>>>In some countries, Israel among them, there is not even a specific law
>>>against the sale of human beings.
>>>
>>>Platzer said that although certainly “tens of thousands” of women were sold
>>>into prostitution each year, he was uncomfortable with statistics since
>>>nobody involved has any reason to tell the truth.
>>>
>>>“But if you want to use numbers,” he said, “think about this. Two hundred
>>>million people are victims of contemporary forms of slavery. Most aren’t
>>>prostitutes, of course, but children in sweatshops, domestic workers,
>>>migrants. During four centuries, 12 million people were believed to be
>>>involved in the slave trade between Africa and the New World. The 200
>>>million—and many of course are women who are trafficked for sex—is a current
>>>figure. It’s happening now. Today.”
>>>
>>>Distress Calls: Far-Flung Victims Provide Few Clues
>>>
>>>The distress call came from Donetsk, the bleak center of coal production in
>>>southern Ukraine. A woman was screaming on the telephone line. Her sister
>>>and a friend were prisoners in a bar somewhere near Rome. They spoke no
>>>Italian and had no way out, but had managed, briefly, to get hold of a man’s
>>>cell phone.
>>>
>>>“Do you have any idea where they are, exactly?” asked Olga Shved, who runs
>>>La Strada in Kiev, Ukraine’s new center dedicated to fighting the
>>>trafficking of women in Eastern Europe and the countries of the former
>>>Soviet Union.
>>>
>>>The woman’s answer was no. Ms. Shved began searching for files and telephone
>>>numbers of the local consul, the police, anybody who could help.
>>>
>>>“Do they know how far from Rome they are?” she asked, her voice tightening
>>>with each word. “What about the name of the street or the bar? Anything will
>>>help,” she said, jotting notes furiously as she spoke. “We can get the
>>>police on this, but we need something. If they call back, tell them to give
>>>us a clue. The street number. The number of a bus that runs past. One thing
>>>is all we need.”
>>>
>>>Ms. Shved hung up and called officials at Ukraine’s Interior Ministry and
>>>the Foreign Ministry. Her conversations were short, direct and obviously a
>>>routine part of her job.
>>>
>>>That is because Ukraine—and to a lesser degree its Slavic neighbors Russia
>>>and Belarus—has replaced Thailand and the Philippines as the epicenter of
>>>the global business in trafficking women. The Ukrainian problem has been
>>>worsened by a ravaged economy, an atrophied system of law enforcement, and
>>>criminal gangs that grow more brazen each year. Young European women are in
>>>demand, and Ukraine, a country of 51 million people, has a seemingly endless
>>>supply. It is not that hard to see why.
>>>
>>>Neither Russia nor Ukraine reports accurate unemployment statistics. But
>>>even partial numbers present a clear story of chaos and economic
>>>dislocation. Federal employment statistics in Ukraine indicate that more
>>>than two-thirds of the unemployed are women. The government also keeps
>>>another statistic: employed but not working. Those are people who
>>>technically have jobs, and can use company amenities like day-care centers
>>>and hospitals. But they do not work or get paid. Three-quarters are women.
>>>And of those who have lost their jobs since the Soviet Union dissolved in
>>>1991, more than 80 percent are women.
>>>
>>>The average salary in Ukraine today is slightly less than $30 a month, but
>>>it is half that in the small towns that criminal gangs favor for recruiting
>>>women to work abroad. On average, there are 30 applicants for every job in
>>>most Ukrainian cities. There is no real hope; but there is freedom.
>>>
>>>In that climate, looking for work in foreign countries has increasingly
>>>become a matter of survival.
>>>
>>>“It’s no secret that the highest prices now go for the white women,” said
>>>Marco Buffo, executive director of On the Road, an antitrafficking
>>>organization in northern Italy. “They are the novelty item now. It used to
>>>be Nigerians and Asians at the top of the market. Now it’s the Ukrainians.”
>>>
>>>Economics is not the only factor causing women to flee their homelands.
>>>There is also social reality. For the first time, young women in Ukraine and
>>>Russia have the right, the ability and the willpower to walk away from their
>>>parents and their hometowns. Village life is disintegrating throughout much
>>>of the former Soviet world, and youngsters are grabbing any chance they can
>>>find to save themselves.
>>>“After the wall fell down, the Ukrainian people tried to live in the new
>>>circumstances,” said Ms. Shved. “It was very hard, and it gets no easier.
>>>Girls now have few opportunities yet great freedom. They see ‘Pretty Woman,’
>>>or a thousand movies and ads with the same point, that somebody who is rich
>>>can save them. The glory and ease of wealth is almost the basic point of the
>>>Western advertising that we see. Here the towns are dying. What jobs there
>>>are go to men. So they leave.”
>>>
>>>First, however, they answer ads from employment agencies promising to find
>>>them work in a foreign country. Here again, Russian crime gangs play a
>>>central role. They often recruit people through seemingly innocuous “mail
>>>order bride” meetings. Even when they do not, few such organizations can
>>>operate without paying off one gang or another. Sometimes want ads are
>>>almost honest, suggesting that the women can earn up to $1,000 a month as
>>>“escorts” abroad. Often they are vague or blatantly untrue.
>>>
>>>Recruiting Methods: Ads Make Offers Too Good To Be True
>>>
>>>One typical ad used by traffickers in Kiev last year read: “Girls: Must be
>>>single and very pretty. Young and tall. We invite you for work as models,
>>>secretaries, dancers, choreographers, gymnasts. Housing is supplied. Foreign
>>>posts available. Must apply in person.”
>>>
>>>One young woman who did, and made it back alive, described a harrowing
>>>journey. “I met with these guys, and they asked if I would work at a strip
>>>bar,” she said. “Why not, I thought. They said we would have to leave at
>>>once. We went by car to the Slovak Republic where they grabbed my passport.
>>>I think they got me new papers there, but threatened me if I spoke out. We
>>>made it to Vienna, then to Turkey. I was kept in a bar and I was told I owed
>>>$5,000 for my travel. I worked for three days, and on the fourth I was
>>>arrested.”
>>>
>>>Lately, the ads have started to disappear from the main cities—where the
>>>realities of such offers are known now. These days the appeals are made in
>>>the provinces, where their success is undiminished.
>>>
>>>Most of the thousands of Ukrainian women who go abroad each year are illegal
>>>immigrants who do not work in the sex business. Often they apply for a legal
>>>visa—to dance, or work in a bar—and then stay after it expires.
>>>
>>>Many go to Turkey and Germany, where Russian crime groups are particularly
>>>powerful. Israeli leaders say that Russian women—they tend to refer to all
>>>women from the former Soviet Union as Russian—disappear off tour boats every
>>>day. Officials in Italy estimate that at least 30,000 Ukrainian women are
>>>employed illegally there now.
>>>
>>>Most are domestic workers, but a growing number are prostitutes, some of
>>>them having been promised work as domestics only to find out their jobs were
>>>a lie. Part of the problem became clear in a two-year study recently
>>>concluded by the Washington-based nonprofit group Global Survival Network:
>>>Police officials in many countries just don’t care.
>>>
>>>The network, after undercover interviews with gangsters, pimps and corrupt
>>>officials, found that local police forces—often those best able to prevent
>>>trafficking—are least interested in helping.
>>>
>>>Gillian Caldwell of Global Survival Network has been deeply involved in the
>>>study. “In Tokyo,” she said, “a sympathetic senator arranged a meeting for
>>>us with senior police officials to discuss the growing prevalence of
>>>trafficking from Russia into Japan. The police insisted it wasn’t a problem,
>>>and they didn’t even want the concrete information we could have provided.
>>>That didn’t surprise local relief agencies, who cited instances in which
>>>police had actually sold trafficked women back to the criminal networks
>>>which had enslaved them.”
>>>
>>>Official Reactions: Best-Placed To Help, but Least Inclined
>>>
>>>Complacency among police agencies is not uncommon.
>>>
>>>“Women’s groups want to blow this all out of proportion,” said Gennadi
>>>Lepenko, chief of Kiev’s branch of Interpol, the international police
>>>agency. “Perhaps this was a problem a few years ago. But it’s under control
>>>now.”
>>>
>>>That is not the view at Ukraine’s parliament—which is trying to pass new
>>>laws to protect young women—or at the Interior Ministry.
>>>“We have a very serious problem here, and we are simply not equipped to
>>>solve it by ourselves,” said Mikhail Lebed, chief of criminal investigations
>>>for the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. “It is a human tragedy, but also,
>>>frankly, a national crisis. Gangsters make more from these women in a week
>>>than we have in our law-enforcement budget for the whole year. To be honest,
>>>unless we get some help we are not going to stop it.”
>>>
>>>But solutions will not be simple. Criminal gangs risk little by ferrying
>>>women out of the country; indeed, many of the women go voluntarily. Laws are
>>>vague, cooperation between countries rare and punishment of traffickers
>>>almost nonexistent. Without work or much hope of a future at home, an eager
>>>teen-ager will find it hard to believe that the promise of a job in Italy,
>>>Turkey or Israel is almost certain to be worthless.
>>>
>>>“I answered an ad to be a waitress,” said Tamara, 19, a Ukrainian prostitute
>>>in a massage parlor near Tel Aviv’s old Central Bus Station, a Russian-
>>>language ghetto for the cheapest brothels. “I’m not sure I would go back now
>>>if I could. What would I do there, stand on a bread line or work in a
>>>factory for no wages?”
>>>
>>>Tamara, like all other such women interviewed for this article, asked that
>>>her full name not be published. She has classic Slavic features, with long
>>>blond hair and deep green eyes. She turned several potential customers away
>>>so she could speak at length with a reporter. She was willing to talk as
>>>long as her boss was out. She said she was not watched closely while she
>>>remained within the garish confines of the “health club.”
>>>
>>>“I didn’t plan to do this,” she said, looking sourly at the rich red walls
>>>and leopard prints around her. “They took my passport, so I don’t have much
>>>choice. But they do give me money. And believe me, it’s better than anything
>>>I could ever get at home.”
>>>
>>>Yitzhak Tyler, the chief of undercover activities for the Haifa police, is a
>>>big, open-faced man who doesn’t mince words.
>>>
>>>“We got a hell of a problem on our hands,” he said. The port city of 200,000
>>>has become the easiest entryway for women brought to Israel to work as
>>>prostitutes—though by no means the only one. Sometimes they walk off tour
>>>boats, but increasingly they come with forged documents that enable them to
>>>live and work in Israel. These have often been bought or stolen from elderly
>>>Jewish women in Russia or Ukraine.
>>>
>>>“This is a sophisticated, global operation,” Tyler said. “It’s evil, and it’
>>>s successful because the money is so good. These men pay $500 to $1,000 for
>>>a Ukrainian or Russian woman. Do you understand what I am telling you? They
>>>will buy these women and make a fortune out of them.”
>>>
>>>To illustrate his point, Tyler grabbed a black calculator and started
>>>calling out the sums as he punched them in.
>>>“Take a small place,” he said, “with 10 girls. Each has 15 to 20 clients a
>>>day. Multiply that by say 200 shekels. So say 30,000 shekels a day comes in
>>>to each place. Each girl works 25 days a month. Minimum.”
>>>
>>>Tyler was busy doing math as he spoke. “So we are talking about 750,000
>>>shekels a month, or about $215,000. A man often owns five of these places.
>>>That’s a million dollars. No taxes, no real overhead. It’s a factory with
>>>slave labor. And we’ve got them all over Israel.”
>>>
>>>The Tropicana, in Tel Aviv’s bustling business district, is one of the
>>>busiest bordellos. The women who work there, like nearly all prostitutes in
>>>Israel today, are Russian. Their boss, however, is not.
>>>
>>>“Israelis love Russian girls,” said Jacob Golan, who owns this and two other
>>>clubs, and spoke willingly about the business he finds so “successful.”
>>>“They are blonde and good-looking and different from us,” he said, chuckling
>>>as he drew his hand over his black hair. “And they are desperate. They are
>>>ready to do anything for money.”
>>>
>>>Always filled with half-naked Russian women, the club is open around the
>>>clock. There is a schedule on the wall next to the receptionist—with each
>>>woman’s hours listed in a different color, and the days and shifts rotating,
>>>as at a restaurant or a bar. Next to the schedule a sign reads, “We don’t
>>>accept checks.” Next to that there is a poster for a missing Israeli woman.
>>>
>>>There are 12 cubicles at the Tropicana where 20 women work in shifts, eight
>>>during the daytime, 12 at night. Business is always booming, and not just
>>>with foreign workers. Israeli soldiers, with rifles on their shoulders,
>>>frequent the place, as do business executives and tourists.
>>>Golan was asked if most women who work at the club do so voluntarily. He
>>>laughed heartily.
>>>
>>>“I don’t get into that,” he said, staring vacantly across his club at four
>>>Russian women sitting on a low couch. “They are brought here and told to
>>>work. I don’t force them. I pay them. What goes on between them and the men
>>>they are with, how could that be my problem?”
>>>
>>>Deterrent Strategies: A System that Fails Those Who Testify
>>>
>>>Every once in a while, usually with great fanfare and plenty of advance
>>>notice, Golan gets raided. He pays a fine, and the women without good false
>>>documents are taken to prison.
>>>
>>>If they are deported, the charges against them are dropped. But if a woman
>>>wants to file a complaint, then she must remain in prison until a trial is
>>>held. “In the past four years,” Betty Lahan, prison director of Neve Tirtsa
>>>here, said, “I don’t know of a single case where a woman chose to testify.”
>>>
>>>Such punitive treatment of victims is the rule rather than the exception. In
>>>Italy, where the police say killings of women forced into prostitution
>>>average one a month, parliament tried to create a sort of witness protection
>>>program. But it only allowed women to stay in the country for one year and
>>>did nothing to hide their identities.
>>>
>>>“The deck is just so completely stacked against the women in all this,” said
>>>Daniella Pompei, an immigration specialist with the community of Sant’
>>>Egidio, the Catholic relief agency in Rome. “The police is the last place
>>>these women want to go.” She said that only 20 women had ever used the
>>>protection program.
>>>
>>>It is not clear who will stop the mob. On a trip to Ukraine late last year,
>>>Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke out about the new slave trade that has
>>>developed so rapidly there. The United States and the European Union have
>>>plans to work together to educate young women about the dangers of working
>>>abroad. Other initiatives, like stays of deportation for prisoners, victims’
>>>shelters and counseling, have also been discussed.
>>>
>>>“I don’t care about any of that,” said Lena, a young Latvian, one of the
>>>inmates waiting to be deported here. “I just want to know one thing. How
>>>will I ever walk down the street like a human being again?”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:20:57 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:56:12 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:04:43 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>>
>>>The article has more than enough active website addresses, that you
>>>should have been able to read more useful material.
>>>
>>>By the way, why not comment on your ideas relevant to the subject
>>>heading.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:56:12 +0000, philip de cadenet
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Roger,
>>>>>In view of the constant reports by Interpol that the Russian JEW Mafia
>>>>>is spreading its control around the world, combined with the strength of
>>>>>the JEWS under communism, one wonders, is Russia now under the full
>>>>>control of JEWS??
>>>>>
>>>>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org
>>>>>
>>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>>>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>>>>>       
>>>>>       One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>>>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>>>
>>>>>       First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>>>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>>>>>
>>>>>       While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>>Archives:         
>>>>>         
>>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>>>>>         
>>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>>>>>
>>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>>>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>>Government."         
>>>>>
>>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>>>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>>>>>
>>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>>>>>
>>>>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>>>>>
>>>>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>>>>>
>>>>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>>Gordon. 
>>>>>
>>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>>were Jews. 
>>>>>
>>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>>did not take kindly to it." 
>>>>>
>>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>>>
>>>>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>>>>>
>>>>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>>4, 1919) 
>>>>>       
>>>>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>>>
>>>>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>>>>>
>>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>>himself:
>>>>>
>>>>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>>>
>>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>>>
>>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>>>>>
>>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>>Communist bosses.
>>>>>  
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>>>
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People 
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>>>>                http://www.natvan.com
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>     Roger's Page  http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>>>      Keep It White Because You Know It's Right!
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>You posted a ficticious e-mail address thereby defeating the object of
>>>>your final sentence above!
>>>>One does have to wonder how much credence you expect us, the readers of
>>>>this newgroup, to give someone who does not print their real e-mail
>>>>address.
>>>>Nuff said.
>>>>
>>>>Philip de Cadenet / UK



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:14:49 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:15:56 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>On Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:41:38 -0400, "Richard G. Philllips"
>> wrote:
>>>Scoop wrote:
>>>> Quoth Richard G. Philllips:
>>>> : Scoop wrote:
>>
>>>> : > Dick, since you are alleging that Jews have routinely engaged in ritual
>>>> : > murder throughout our long history, it is incumbent upon you to provide
>>>> : > proof of your assertion.
>>>===========================================
>>>Phillips
>>>I have never alleged and I do not believe that Jews ROUTINELY commit
>>>ritual murder. I am inclined to believe that it has happened but is a
>>>rare thing and certainly not indulged in by the generality of Jews.
>>
>>>After reading covington's original post about the ocurrences in Chicago
>>>in 1955,
>>>I did no more than say that the circumstances, taken as a whole, were
>>>highly suggestive of ritual murder.
>>>===========================================
>>>Phillips (previous)
>>
>>>> : It is well known that liberals and Jews have a penchant for hyperbole of
>>>> : that sort. It reveals far more about the author than it does about the
>>>> : person referred to.
>>>===================================================
>>>> 
>>>> All that it reveals about me is my opinion that you're a spineless, lying
>>>> buffoon.
>>>===========================================
>>>PHillips
>>>
>>>See what I mean?
>>>=====================
>>Notice that the Christkillers refuse to discuss the issue, namely how
>>many of them indulge in Jewish Ritual Murder, of children???



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:45:03 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:40:41 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:24:48 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>
>>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>>
>>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>>
>>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>>
>>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>>murder of Christ?
>>>
>>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>>want to generate more?
>>>
>>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>>
>>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>>
>>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>>
>>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>>
>>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>>where your mouth is...
>>>
>>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>>
>>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>>
>>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>>the year 2000!!!



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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:53:28 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:00:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:

>>Canadian Press, and the prestigious national TV program W5,yesterday
>>3rd November 1998,  both have confirmed that Israel's killer group
>>MOSSAD is still using Canadian passports for the Mossad terrorists.
>
>
>>What is even more hypocritical, is that the present communist
>>government of Canada, supports the criminal activities of the zionist
>>state of Israel and the MOSSAD CRIMINALS, with Canadian taxpayer
>>money!!
>>
>>
>>The media now report that Canada has one of its spies resident in
>>Israel, as permanent liaison with the MOSSAD terrorists!!!
>>
>>
>>On 12 Oct 1997 16:22:24 GMT, intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:
>>
>>>Help the assassins, heck no !
>>
>>>THEY HAVE ALL BEEN ACCEPTED INTO CANADA AS REFUGEES.
>>
>>>We love all the vermin of the world !  
>>
>>>Especially criminals !!!
>>
>>Such as the JEW Mafia from Russia, dope dealers from Viet Nam, faggots
>>spreading AIDS from Poland, and white collar criminals from Israel,
>>plus lots of other bogus refugees!!!



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:37:36 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:00:33 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>
>>>OyVay & NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just do not like for the world to know how
>>>rotten, and anti-Christian the cursed JEWS really are!!!
>>>
>>>In Canada, the damned JEWS even had the Cross removed from the
>>>cenotaph, for the Remembrance Day ceremonies!!
>>>
>>>Article attached.
>>>
>>>There has been worldwide revulsion, and complaints about the damned
>>>JEWS for doing this.
>>>
>>>On 26 Nov 1997 04:07:29 GMT, jbellingxx@aol.com (Jbellingxx) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why does Nizkor list ISP's on their Web-site for everyone who disagrees with
>>>>their opinions?  Why do they do that?  Why do they list instructions on how to
>>>>mail bomb people who disagree with their opinions-these champions of social
>>>>justice and free speech?  Sing to "Happy days are here again:
>>>>
>>>>McCarthy Days are here again
>>>>The Nizkooks strike but you won't know when
>>>>get a mail bomb sent from yer old pal Ken
>>>>Nizkook days are here again
>>>>
>>>>They'll publicize your ISP's
>>>>They'd like to have you on your knees
>>>>They're busier than a nest of bees
>>>>Nizkook days are here again
>>>>
>>>>protect your precious CD rom
>>>>Watch out before you are mail bombed
>>>>
>>>>They love to put in false complaints
>>>>Beware of lies the Nizkook paints
>>>>Within this group one will find no saints
>>>>Nizkook days are here again....
>>>>
>>>>Ach!  I'm a song writer!  Move over, Irving Berlin!
>>>>Ich bin noch ein Berliner!
>>
>>
>>In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>>Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.
>>
>>Len Dolgoy, past president of the Jewish Federation of Edmonton, and
>>also the regional representative on the Canadian Jewish Congress,  had
>>arranged for the removal of the Cross at the Remembrance day
>>celebrations.
>>
>>The Strathcona Legion, represnting victims and their families fielded
>>many complaints, particularly from war widows and others who had lost
>>family members.
>>
>>
>>Mind you, the same JEWS do not mind that they will be having a 25 foot
>>scrap iron menorah cluttering up the lawn in front of the provincial
>>Parliament Buildings, to supposedly celebrate the JEW holiday of
>>Hannukah!!!!
>>
>>It seems that the JEWs can have their religious symbol in front of the
>>public, but the Cross, representing the millions of Christians who
>>died, is not to be permitted!!!!
>>
>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser
>>



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:01:26 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:26:58 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:06:50 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>>>>And don't forget the roles of the cursed Christkillers - the damned
>>>>JEWS - in the spread of Communism, and their involvement in the murder
>>>>of more than 100 millions in this century!!!
>>>>
>>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>>and activating their  accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>>
>>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>>
>>>>"Individual revolutionary leaders and Sverdlov -- played a conspicuous
>>>>part in the revolution of November, 1917,  which enabled the
>>>>Bolshevists to take possession of the state apparatus" (Univ. Jew.
>>>>Encyd., Vol. IX, p.668). Here and there in the Universal Jewish
>>>>Encyclopedia other Jews are named as co-founders of Russian 
>>>>Communism, but not Lenin and Stalin. Both of these, however, 
>>>>are said by some writers to be half-Jewish. Whatever the racial
>>>>antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet commissariats were 
>>>>largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in the Communist
>>>>movement was well understood in Russia. "The White Armies which
>>>>opposed the Bolsehvik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks 
>>>>as common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>>
>>>>The Ukrainians were part of the White Army (Gentile) that
>>>>opposed the Red Army (loyal to Jewish Commissariats).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 23:41:29 -0000, "ANAS  JZAYRLI"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Since the times of Moses the Jews were oppressors or usurers, all the talent
>>>>>of Jews Is concentrated on predatory acts...They have a creed which blesses
>>>>>their thieving and misdeeds, they are real liars and bloodhounds, who have
>>>>>not only perverted and  alsified the entire Scriptures from beginning to end
>>>>>and without ceasing with their interpretations.
>>>>>And all of the anxious sighing, longing and hope of their hearts is directed
>>>>>to the time when some day they would like to deal with us as they dealt with
>>>>>the heathen in Persia  at the time of Esther... O how they love that Book of
>>>>>Esther, which is so suitable to their bloodthirsty revengeful,  murderous
>>>>>appetite and hopes ! The sun has never shown on such a bloodthirsty and
>>>>>revengeful people, who fancy themselves to be the chosen  people so they can
>>>>>murder and strangle the heathen. No people under the sun is more greedy than
>>>>>they are than they have been and always will be, as one can see from their
>>>>>accursed usury. They console themselves that when their Messiah comes, he
>>>>>will collect all the gold and silver in the world and divide it amongst
>>>>>them.
>>>>>Since childhood they have devoured such poisonous hatred against the Goyim
>>>>>from  their parents and rabbis, and still devour such without ceasing, that
>>>>>flesh and blood, bone and marrow, and has become their life and being. And
>>>>>as little as they can alter flesh and blood, bone and marrow, so little can
>>>>>they change such pride and envy, they just have to stay that way and be
>>>>>ruined, if God does not perform a special miracle.
>>>>>
>>>>>"The Jews are locusts or caterpillars which are devouring France." Sayings
>>>>>often repeated by Napoleon Bonaparte, quoted in Cherep-Spiridovich's
>>>>>THE SECRET WORLD GOVERNMENT, page 87.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>



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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:15:28 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:20:03 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:35:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>>>>On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 22:15:39 GMT, adam.radek@england.com wrote:
>>>>>http://www.villagevoice.com/ink/news/21friedman.shtml
>>>
>>>>>The Village Voice
>>>>>22May98
>>>
>>>If the following story is true, why has INTERPOL not done anything??
>>>Just because the criminals are JEWS??
>>>
>>>
>>>>The Most Dangerous Mobster in the World
>>>
>>>>According to the FBI and Israeli Intelligence, Semion Mogilevich Rules
>>>>Over an Arms-Trafficking, Money-Laundering, Drug-Running, and
>>>>Art-Smuggling 'Red Mafia'
>>>
>>>>by Robert I. Friedman
>>>
>>>
>>>>In two posh villas outside  the small town of Ricany, near Prague, one
>>>>of the most dreaded mob families in the world savagely murders its
>>>>terrified victims. The  mob's young enforcers, trained by veterans of
>>>>the Afghanistan war, are infamous for their extreme brutality. Their
>>>>quarry, usually businessmen who have balked at extortion demands, are
>>>>repeatedly stabbed and tortured, then mutilated before they are
>>>>butchered. The carnage is so hideous that it has scared the daylights
>>>>out of competing crime groups in the area.
>>>
>>>>The torture chambers are run by what international police officials call
>>>>the Red Mafia, a notorious  Russian mob family that in onlysix years has
>>>>become a nefarious global crime cartel. Based in Budapest, it haskey
>>>>centers in New York, Pennsylvania, Southern California, and as far away
>>>>as New Zealand.
>>>>
>>>>The enigmatic leader of the Red Mafia is a  52-year-old Ukrainian-born
>>>>JEW named Semion Mogilevich. He is a shadowy figure known as the
>>>>''Brainy Don''--he holds an economics degree from  the University of
>>>>Lvov--and until now, he has never  been exposed by the media. But the
>>>>Voice has  obtained hundreds of pages of classified FBI and  Israeli
>>>>intelligence documents from August 1996, and   these documents--as well
>>>>as recent interviews with a key criminal associate and with dozens of
>>>>law  enforcement sources here and abroad--describe him as someone who
>>>>has become a grave threat to the stability of Israel and Eastern Europe.
>>>
>>>>''He's the most powerful mobster in the world,'' crows Monya Elson, who
>>>>is listed in classified documents as one of Mogilevich's closest
>>>>associates and  partners in prostitution and money laundering rings. The
>>>>Brighton Beach-based Elson, who once led a pack of thugs and killers
>>>>known as Monya's Brigada,  is currently in the Metropolitan Correctional
>>>>Center in  lower Manhattan awaiting trial for three murders and numerous
>>>>extortions.
>>>
>>>>In July 1993, after Elson was grievously wounded by rival mobsters in a
>>>>bloody shoot-out outside his Brooklyn apartment building, Mogilevich
>>>>spirited him out of the country. Mogilevich then set up his Russian
>>>>Jewish refugee friend in an alleged massive  money-laundering scheme in
>>>>Fano, Italy, where he was eventually arrested and extradited back to
>>>>America. Elson, an integral part of the Red Mafia, had been one of the
>>>>most feared mobsters in Brighton Beach, ground zero for Russian
>>>>organized crime in America, which has exploded here following
>>>>perestroika.
>>>>
>>>>''If I tell on Mogilevich, Interpol will give me $20 million,'' boasted
>>>>Elson. ''I lived with him. I'm his partner, don't forget. We are very,
>>>>very close friends. I don't mean close, I mean very, very close. He's my
>>>>best friend.'' Nevertheless, after extensive interviews over the course
>>>>of the last six months, Elson ultimately confirmed some of the details
>>>>about Mogilevich contained in the classified FBI and Israeli documents.
>>>>
>>>>Allegations of Mogilevich's devilish array of criminal activities are
>>>>extensively detailed in the reports:The FBI and Israeli intelligence
>>>>assert that he traffics in nuclear materials, drugs, prostitutes,
>>>>precious gems, and stolen art. His contract hit squads operate in the
>>>>U.S. and Europe. He controls everything that goes in and out of Moscow's
>>>>Sheremetyevo International Airport, a ''smugglers' paradise,'' says
>>>>Elson. Mogilevich bought a bankrupt airline in a former Central Asian
>>>>Soviet republic for millions of dollars in cash so he could haul heroin
>>>>out of the Golden Triangle. Most worrisome to U.S. authorities is
>>>>Mogilevich's apparently legal purchase of virtually the entire Hungarian
>>>>armaments industry, jeopardizing regional security, NATO, and the war
>>>>against terrorism.
>>>>
>>>>In one typical criminal deal, Mogilevich and two Moscow-based gangsters
>>>>sold $20 million worth of pilfered Warsaw Pact weapons from East
>>>>Germany,  including ground-to-air missiles and 12 armored troop
>>>>carriers, according to the classified Israeli and FBI documents. The
>>>>buyer was Iran, says a top-level U.S. Customs official who requested
>>>>anonymity.
>>>>
>>>>In another deal, an FBI informant told the bureau that one of
>>>>Mogilevich's chief lieutenants in Los Angeles met two Russians from New
>>>>York City with Genovese crime family ties to broker a scheme to dump
>>>>American toxic waste in Russia. Mogilevich's man from L.A. said the Red
>>>>Mafia would dispose of  the toxic waste in the Chernobyl region,
>>>>''probably through payoffs to the decontamination authorities there,''
>>>>says a classified FBI report.
>>>>
>>>>Mogilevich is particularly intrigued by art fraud. In early 1993, he
>>>>reached an agreement with the  leaders of the powerful Solntsevskaya
>>>>crime family in Moscow to invest huge sums of money in a joint venture:
>>>>acquiring a jewelry business in Moscow and Budapest. The business,
>>>>according to classified FBI documents, was to serve as a front for the
>>>>acquisition of jewelry, antiques, and art, which the Solntsevskaya mob
>>>>had stolen from churches and museums in Russia, including the Hermitage
>>>>in St. Petersburg. The gangsters also robbed the homes of  art
>>>>collectors and even broke into synagogues in Germany and Eastern Europe
>>>>to steal rare religious books and Torahs.
>>>>
>>>>Mogilevich's operation, again in collusion with the Solntsevskaya mob,
>>>>also purchased a large jewelry factory in Budapest. Russian antiques,
>>>>such as Faberge eggs, are sent to Budapest for ''restoration.''
>>>>Mogilevich's men ship the genuine Faberge eggs to  an unwitting
>>>>Sotheby's auction house in London for sale, then send fake Faberge eggs
>>>>as well as other ''restored'' objects back to Moscow.
>>>>
>>>>MOGILEVICH'S EARLY years are murky. Soviet authorities first learned of
>>>>his criminal activities in the 1970s, when he was a member of the
>>>>Liubertskaya crime group that operated in the Moscow suburb of  the same
>>>>name. He was involved in petty thefts and counterfeiting.
>>>>
>>>>But Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the mid
>>>>1980s, when tens of thousands of  Jewish refugees were hurriedly
>>>>immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
>>>>assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
>>>>goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
>>>>currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
>>>>profits.
>>>>
>>>>In the 1980s, he established a petroleum  import-export company, Arbat
>>>>International, and registered it in Alderney, one of the Channel
>>>>Islands, which is known to be a tax haven. One of his partners--with a
>>>>quarter share of the company--was Vyacheslav Ivankov, the legendary
>>>>Russian criminal who in March 1992 became Godfather of the Russian mob
>>>>in America. Ivankov was convicted in 1996 of extorting two Russian-born
>>>>Wall Street stockbrokers. He now resides in Raybrook, a Federal prison
>>>>in upstate New York.
>>>>
>>>>In early 1990, Mogilevich fled Moscow, as did many other dons, to avoid
>>>>the gangland wars that were then roiling the capital. Mogilevich and his
>>>>top henchmen settled in Israel, where they received  Israeli
>>>>citizenship. He ''succeeded in building a bridgehead in Israel'' and
>>>>''developing significant and influential [political] ties,'' says an
>>>>Israeli intelligence report.
>>>>
>>>>Mogilevich is married to a Hungarian national, Katalin Papp. That
>>>>marriage allowed him to legally emigrate to Budapest, Hungary, in 1991,
>>>>where he began to build the foundations of his global criminal empire.
>>>>He bought a string of nightclubs in Prague, Riga, and  Kiev--called the
>>>>''Black and White Clubs''--that has become one of the world's foremost
>>>>centers of  prostitution. Monya Elson is a partner in the clubs,
>>>>according to his own admission and classified FBI  documents. The Black
>>>>and White Club in Budapest became the hub of Mogilevich's operations. He
>>>>quickly built a highly structured criminal organization,  in the mode of
>>>>a traditional American mafia family.  Indeed, many of the organization's
>>>>250 members are his relatives.
>>>>
>>>>To the consternation of international law enforcement officials,
>>>>Mogilevich began to legally purchase much of Hungary's arms industry.
>>>>The legitimate companies he bought include:
>>>>
>>>>-Magnex 2000: a giant magnet manufacturer.
>>>>
>>>>-Digep General Machine Works: an artillery shell, mortar, and fire
>>>>equipment manufacturer, which was financed by a $3.8 million loan from
>>>>the London  branch of Banque Francaise De L'orean.
>>>>
>>>>-Army Co-op: a mortar and anti-aircraft gun factory. Army Co-op was
>>>>established in 1991 by two  Hungarian nationals, both in the local arms
>>>>industry,  who were looking for a partner. Mogilevich has bought 95 per
>>>>cent of Army Co-op through another Channel Island holding company,
>>>>Arigon, Ltd., and also deals extensively with the Ukraine, selling oil
>>>>products to the Ukrainian railway administration.
>>>>
>>>>These transactions enabled the Mogilevich organization to become a
>>>>direct owner of the Hungarian armaments industry. In 1994, he purchased
>>>>a license enabling him to buy and sell  weapons. Now a legitimate
>>>>armaments manufacturer, one of his companies participated in at least
>>>>one arms exhibition in the U.S., where it displayed mortars modified by
>>>>Israel.
>>>>
>>>>Like mob bosses everywhere, Mogilevich couldn't  sustain his empire
>>>>without the help of corrupt police and politicians. There is one
>>>>documented example of  a criminal associate of Mogilevich mingling with
>>>>American politicians. In March 1994, Vahtang Ubiriya, one of
>>>>Mogilevich's top lieutenants, was photographed by the FBI at a tony
>>>>Republican Party fundraiser in Dallas, says an FBI report. Ubiriya, a
>>>>high-ranking official in the Ukrainian railway administration, has a
>>>>prior conviction for bribery in the Ukraine.
>>>>
>>>>In Europe and Russia, the ''corruption of police and public officials
>>>>has been part of the Semion  Mogilevich Organization's modus operandi,''
>>>>says a classified FBI document. ''The corruptive influence of  the
>>>>Mogilevich organization apparently extends to the Russian security
>>>>system. During 1995, two colonels from Department of the Russian
>>>>Presidential Security Service . . . traveled to Hungary under commercia
>>>>cover to meet with Mogilevich . . . seeking  information for use in the
>>>>Russian political campaign.'' An Israeli associate of Mogilevich met
>>>>with the two colonels and provided intelligence.  Mogilevich also paid
>>>>off a Russian judge to secure  Vyacheslav Ivankov's early release from a
>>>>Siberian prison, where he was doing hard time for robbery and torture,
>>>>according to U.S. court records and  classified FBI documents.
>>>>
>>>>On April 28, the German national television network ZDF reported that
>>>>the BND (the German intelligence agency) had entered into a secret
>>>>contract with  Mogilevich to provide information on the Russian  mob.
>>>>The charges were made by several sources,   including Pierre Delilez, a
>>>>highly regarded Belgium  police investigator who specializes in Russian
>>>>Organized Crime. Because of this deal with the BND,  police in Belgium,
>>>>Germany, and Austria have complained that it is now impossible to
>>>>investigate  the ''Brainy Don.'' If the television report is accurate,
>>>>one possible motive for BND's deal, says a U.S. law enforcement expert
>>>>on the Russian mob, is that the Germans recently ''pulled their people
>>>>out of Moscow  because they didn't like the level of cooperation they
>>>>were getting from the Russian authorities on the  Russian mob.''
>>>>Gangsters, said this source, often talk to intelligence agencies about
>>>>their rivals.
>>>>
>>>>MOGILEVICH'S MAIN activity in the U.S. appears to be money laundering,
>>>>says a classified FBI report.  He has set up companies in Los
>>>>Angeles--FNJ Trade Management--and Newton, Pennsylvania--YBM  Magnex
>>>>International--as well as dozens of shell  companies, which have
>>>>received more than $30 million from Arigon, Ltd., the center of
>>>>Mogilevich's  financial operations.
>>>>
>>>>Last Friday, U.S. Attorney Robert Courtney, head of  the organized-crime
>>>>strike force, led a a joint FBI,  IRS, INS, and Customs raid of YBM's
>>>>offices in  Newton. Cartons of documents were seized, with  Canadian and
>>>>U.S. police citing the company's alleged ties to Russian organized
>>>>crime. YBM is  publicly traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange, and  two
>>>>days before Friday's raid, trading in its stock was suspended by
>>>>Canadian authorities.
>>>>
>>>>The president and CEO of YBM is Jacob Bogatin, a professor of physical
>>>>metallurgy. In May 1996, he contacted the FBI in Philadelphia to find
>>>>out why the  INS had denied visas to YBM employees arriving from Hungary
>>>>and the Ukraine. When he was rebuffed, he had intermediaries step
>>>>forward and pester the FBI. The State Department has banned Mogilevich
>>>>himself from obtaining a U.S. visa because he's on the department's
>>>>watch list of  international organized-crime figures. Nevertheless, he
>>>>has surreptitiously entered America under aliases and on visitor visas
>>>>issued in Tel Aviv to visit Elson  and Ivankov.
>>>>
>>>>Bogatin admitted during a telephone interview that Mogilevich owns his
>>>>company. When asked if he knew that numerous law enforcement agencies
>>>>here and abroad considered Mogilevich to be a leader of  one of the most
>>>>ruthless organized-crime families in  recent times, Bogatin replied,
>>>>''We have an investors relations guy. You want to talk with him about
>>>>this stuff.'' He added that he had read allegations in the Eastern
>>>>European press that his boss was a Mafia don, but didn't believe them.
>>>>YBM vehemently denies that it is connected to Russian organized crime or
>>>>has engaged in any criminal activities.
>>>>
>>>>Bogatin is no stranger to the mob, however. His brother, David, a top
>>>>Russian crime figure who once served in North Vietnam for the Soviets in
>>>>an anti-aircraft unit, is now serving an eight-year term in  a New York
>>>>State prison for a multimillion-dollar gasoline tax fraud scheme. Just
>>>>prior to trial, he had jumped bail, fleeing to Poland. There he set up
>>>>the  first commercial banks, which moved vast sums of  money controlled
>>>>by Russian wiseguys. (This after handing over his mortgages for five
>>>>pricey Trump Tower apartments to a Genovese associate. The mortgages
>>>>were liquidated and the funds were moved  through a mafia-controlled
>>>>bank in Chelsea.)  Eventually he was caught and returned to the U.S. In
>>>>the meantime, he lived like royalty in a five-star  Viennese hotel,
>>>>surrounded by a praetorian guard of 125 Polish parachutists, some of
>>>>them bedecked in shiny gold uniforms.
>>>>
>>>>Mogilevich has not refrained from associating with known killers in
>>>>America, prime among them Elson and Ivankov. A confidential informant
>>>>told the FBI that Vladimir Berkovich, an L.A. resident, is a chief
>>>>lieutenant in Mogilevich's organization and has arranged contract
>>>>killings here, supplying the  weapons and spiriting the killers out of
>>>>the country. The visas, says the report, were obtained through the Palm
>>>>Terrace restaurant, a watering hole for Russian gangsters, which
>>>>Berkovich owns. Berkovich told the Voice that he is aware of the
>>>>government's charges, and that they are ''total bullshit.'' Although he
>>>>has no criminal record in the U.S., Berkovich's son, Oleg, was convicted
>>>>in Los Angeles of solicitation to commit murder on October 11, 1989. He
>>>>was sentenced to four years. Oleg's business card  identified his
>>>>employer as Magnex, Ltd., a company owned by Mogilevich in Budapest.
>>>>Oleg was recently arrested in Hungary on unspecified charges but was
>>>>released.
>>>>
>>>>Oleg's uncle, the colorful Lazar Berkovich, whose last known address was
>>>>New York City, arrived in the  Big Apple after having survived a
>>>>shootout with Italian gangsters, says his brother Vladimir. The FBI
>>>>report claims that Lazar was head of Russian criminal activities in
>>>>Italy prior to his coming to America to recuperate from his wounds,
>>>>though Vladimir  Bercovich denies that Lazar was ever connected to the
>>>>Russian mob.
>>>>
>>>>Israeli and U.S. law enforcement sources agree that the Red Mafia,
>>>>though in existence for a mere six years, has become one of the most
>>>>formidable Russian organized-crime families in the world. Strongest in
>>>>the Ukraine, Hungary, the Czech  Republic, and the U.S., Mogilevich has
>>>>increased his strength by forging ties with other powerful Russian mob
>>>>groups as well as with the Italian Camorra. His reported ties to the
>>>>German BND and ex-police officers in Hungary keep him informed of police
>>>>efforts to penetrate his organization. ''He also  ingratiates himself
>>>>with the police by providing information on other [Russian crime]
>>>>groups'  activities, thus appearing to be a cooperative good  citizen,''
>>>>says a classfied FBI report. This, along with  his strong leadership
>>>>qualities, his acute financial  skills, his talented and highly educated
>>>>associates,  and his use of cutting-edge technology, has so far  made
>>>>the ''Brainy Don'' impervious to prosecution.
>>>>
>>>>This document last modified Friday, May 22, 1998, 10:31 AM EDT.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:32:24 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:45:25 -0600, John Walker
> wrote:
>
>>(See reply below)
>>
>>sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>>> >non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>>> >
>>> >A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>>> >ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews' physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>>> >repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>>> >naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>>> >why Jews are disliked.
>>> >
>>> >In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>>> >and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>>> >distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>>> >and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>>> >Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>>> >
>>> >Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>>> >with them.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>>> >to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>>> >aid.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>>> >more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>>> >(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>>> >of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>>> >the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>>> >world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>>> >to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>>> >all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>>> >congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>>> >billion/year of US taxpayers' money continues to be sent to Israel as
>>> >foreign aid.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>>> >more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>>> >communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>>> >strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews stole the Palestinians' homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>>> >Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>>> >the Jews.
>>> >
>>> >In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the "anti-semitism" they are
>>> >always complaining about.
>>
>>==== Reply: ===========
>>Jewish Leadership
>>------------------
>>There is an old saying in the world of salesmanship: "Once you have made the
>>sale, shut up!."
>>This is what I see to be a major reason for the growing "anti-Semitic"
>>provocation mentioned above.
>>The result  is a backlash against a tired old formula which is starting to
>>lose it's effectiveness. The Jewish problem is that they can't "shut up".
>>
>>Everywhere on the Internet we witness Jews promoting Jewish leadership.
>>Anyone with the
>>slightest argument against them is accused by Jews of hate. Those refusing to
>>accept Jewish self promotion and  Jewish leadership  are placed in the unfair
>>position of being  branded as  hate mongers. The real hate mongers, in this
>>case, is the Jews.
>>Intellectual honesty in these debates  is seldom condoned. Rather than an
>>offering of counter facts,
>>most often anti Jewish rebuttals are substituted with mere insults which
>>almost always  include accusations of unfounded hatred against the Jews.
>>
>>While Christians, Muslims, and others are busy converting people to their
>>religion, Jews are busy
>>promoting people to their Jewish influence. Gaining success in this activity
>>they are able to form a thought control machine wherein Jewish interests are
>>to be paramount.  The  very powerful Jewish lobby in the United States of
>>America is an example of that influence and leadership  which Jews now enjoy
>>- and it is supported for through the USA gifting of around 3 billion dollars
>>per year to Israel. Much of that money comes back to haunt us.
>>
>>Currently (981025), Jewish influence is testing their level of control by way
>>of trying to get the Jewish American traitor and super spy, J. Pollard,
>>released from prison even though Pollard remains a continuing threat to USA
>>security.. But Israel itself  has betrayed her friendship with the United
>>States by recruiting Pollard to spy for the Jewish state.  Through such acts,
>>Israel was able to sell top secret technical information to countries which
>>act against our security interests.  All of this amounts to even more reason
>>why so much "anti-Semitism" is generated by the Jews themselves.
>>
>>A real friend would not do what Israel has been doing to the United States.
>>Can any reasonable
>>USA patriot citizen offer continued loyalty to that country - Israel - which
>>has betrayed the US more than all others combined?
>>
>>The common pro-Jewish argument is that Jews have suffered throughout the ages
>>and that they must
>>gain world leadership as a matter of security.  The argument continues to be
>>strained as we observe
>>that, more and more, according to the Jews, only Jewish suffering is to have
>>any real meaning.  Witness the Jewish Holocaust museums where none but the
>>Jewish victims  are remembered for the carnage's of W.W.II. The over one
>>hundred million victims of socialist states, since the communist revolution,
>>don't even make it to most history books.
>>
>>I believe I have been objective and honest  in this reply. My message was
>>more by way of observation than it was of accusation.  Still, I can expect
>>extreme distortions from Jews all over,  Jews who I have not met, who will
>>accuse me of hating them.  But, they want me to hate them because that
>>alleged hate is what motivates Jews more than anything else to fight, ever
>>more, for their selfish influence in the affairs of our daily lives.
>>
>>Jews are the only ones who will tell you that you hate them -
>>and if  you disagree, they will argue with you until you do.
>>
>>== jw =====



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:30:27 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>>Tavish II) wrote:
>>
>>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>>Communists and who they were!
>>>
>>>Look:
>>>
>>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>>
>>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>>
>>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>>Results and Prospects.
>>>
>>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>>Committee.
>>>
>>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>>revolution......
>>>
>>>Above found at:
>>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>>
>>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>>
>>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>>>said!>
>>>
>>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>>
>>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>>
>>>Try also:
>>>
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>>
>>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>>Try:
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>>
>>>which states:
>>>
>>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>>
>>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>>
>>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>Consider this:
>>>
>>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>>824-827).
>>>
>>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>>
>>>Here is the link:
>>>
>>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>You will run across this:
>>>
>>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>>
>>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>>this exhibit:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>>
>>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>>
>>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>>
>>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>>
>>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>>
>>>Footnote:
>>>
>>>The BUND:
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>>III, pp 824-827).
>>>
>>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>>
>>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>>
>>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>>                I will find all credible sites
>>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>>                Till the next installment!



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:30:27 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>>Tavish II) wrote:
>>
>>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>>Communists and who they were!
>>>
>>>Look:
>>>
>>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>>
>>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>>
>>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>>Results and Prospects.
>>>
>>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>>Committee.
>>>
>>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>>revolution......
>>>
>>>Above found at:
>>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>>
>>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>>
>>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>>>said!>
>>>
>>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>>
>>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>>
>>>Try also:
>>>
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>>
>>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>>Try:
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>>
>>>which states:
>>>
>>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>>
>>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>>
>>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>Consider this:
>>>
>>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>>824-827).
>>>
>>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>>
>>>Here is the link:
>>>
>>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>You will run across this:
>>>
>>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>>
>>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>>this exhibit:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>>
>>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>>
>>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>>
>>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>>
>>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>>
>>>Footnote:
>>>
>>>The BUND:
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>>III, pp 824-827).
>>>
>>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>>
>>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>>
>>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>>                I will find all credible sites
>>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>>                Till the next installment!



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On Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:39:24 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

>In article ,
>  holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene Holman) wrote:
>> In article <3655c091.1714627@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>,
>> bismarck88@antizhid.org wrote:
>>
>> > And do not ever FORGET, that the communists were mainly damn JEWS!!!!
>> Yes, the list is long....
On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:34:46 +0000, "Dickey Hard %=====> - $$$$"
 wrote:
>(Heiden, Konrad. Der Fuehrer. Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company. 1944.
>pp. 1-18)
>
>" ... This much was true, that in 1897 in Basel the Jewish Nationalist
>Movement of the Zionists was born. The goal of this group, to put it
>simply,
>was to lead the Jews back again to Palestine; to state it more exactly,
>to create for those Jews who were leading an intolerable life of
>oppression, especially in Russia, a 'legally assured homestead' in
>Palestine. In order to disappear in that little corner on the eastern
>shore of
>the Mediterranean they had, as Theodor Herzi, the founder of the
>movement, put it, 'to make the Jewish problem ... a question of world
>politics ... "

>"The real purpose of Holocaust revisionism is to make National Socialism
>an acceptable  political alternative again."



On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:54:23 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:
>On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 05:38:17 GMT, nails@pacific.net.SPAMMERSDIE.sg
>(Ken!!!) wrote:
>>there are idiot jews and there are idiot anti-jews...
>>
>>what is scary is the number if idiots willing to listen to these 2
>>factions of idiots and promote violence...
>
>
>>On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:11:56 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>>Those who wish to support the Christkillers, the cursed JEWS, also
>>>wish to rewrite history.
>
>>>They do not want the present survivors around the world to remember
>>>that 100 million have been killed in the last 80 years by the JEW-led
>>>communists!! This is well documented in the recently released book in
>>>France.
>
>Quite apart from the more than 30 million people massacred by the
>JEW-led soviets in the 1930's in the Ukraine.


>From someone@somewhere.com Thu Nov 13 07:29:56 1997

Subject: OyVay Admits JEW COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!


The key reason OyVay and NAZIKOR/NIZKOR refuse to discuss the 66
Questions about the HOLOHOAX, is because they must hide the truth
about the more than 100 MILLIONS the JEW-led communists have murdered,
in less than 80 years!!!!


On 12 Nov 1997 01:51:13 GMT, rwhita8200@aol.com (RWhita8200) wrote:

>>Subject: COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>>From: alangrist@aol.com (ALAN GRIST)
>>Date: Mon, Nov 10, 1997 18:15 EST

>>French writers row over "communism killed l00m" claim
>>            FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN PARIS

>>A BOOK by a team of French historians,  described  as  the
>>first global accounting of the victims of communism, has
>>estimated that in this century Communist dictators, regimes
>>and  movements  have been responsible for the deaths of
>>up to 100 million people.

>> The 850-page Black Book of Communism - Crimes, Terror  
>>and  Repression,  by  11 senior French researchers and
>>published  to  coincide  with yesterday's 80th anniversary
>>of the Bolshevik Revolution, has triggered a fresh ideologi-
>>cal battle.

>>The writers have come up with  a  final  estimate  that
>>communism claimed about 65 million  lives  in  China,  20
>>million in the Soviet Union, two million in Cambodia, two
>>million in North Korea,  1.7 Million in Africa, one million
>>in  Vietnam,  one million in Eastern Europe and 150,000 in
>>South America. 

>>In a polemical introduction, Stephane Courtois, the chief
>>editor and co-ordinator of the project,  argued  that  mass 
>>murder and terror have been central characteristics of com-
>>munism. "The facts are stubborn," he writes. "They show that 
>>the Communist regimes committed crimes against   about  100  million
>>people, compared to about 25 million for the Nazis."   
>> Some of M Courtois's fellow authors  however, have taken
>>issue  both  with his  highly charged conclusions and with

>   But there's no MONEY in these victims of Communism, so who cares?
>
>Bob Whitaker


And do not ever FORGET, that the communists were mainly damn JEWS!!!!






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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 03:10:56 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com
>
>
>
>
>On 31 Oct 1998 16:30:03 GMT, Wlodzimierz Godlowski
> wrote:
>
>>igal_peacemaker@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>: ( Sory for long post. I=P)
>>
>>: First, let's think about ammount of the victims:
>>
>>: from: http://www.powerup.com.au/~dominion/ff/h15.htm
>>: “”Evidence found in  the pockets of  the victims --
>>: such  as diaries,  unsent letters  and  Soviet newspapers  -- and
>>: forensic tests  confirmed the  date.  In  all, 4,143  bodies were
>>: positively identified.””
>>
>>: So, pan RU8xx,pan Wlodzimierz Godlowski and pan Jerzy Pankiewicz
>>:  and others, we have proof ammount of the victims:
>>
>>: “”4,143 victims””
>>
>>: it is not 3000 as I wrote, but it is also not a 40 000 or 2 000 000 000
>>: as wrote some other readers.
>>
>>more then 10 000 was total number of killing from Kozielsk (only people
>>from that camp was killd in Katyn) Starobielsk and Ostaszkow (on the one 
>>decision of the soviet politbiuro.
>>2 000 000 not 2 000 000 000 it is total number of Polish Citizen Polish
>>and Judaic origin murder by Sowiet in conection with II WW.
>>You should know abut it.
>>: ========================
>>
>>: Now, we can go to discussion about political aspects.
>>: maybe another interesting fact, who found bodies of the victims:
>>
>>: <>: Katyn forests near Smolensk of  mass graves containing the bodies
>>: of  Polish  officers who  the  Germans  said were  killed  by the
>>: Soviets in the spring of 1940.>>
>>
>>Of course that Germans use it in his propaganda. They was not so stiupid
>>not do it.
>>
>>: Bodies were found by German special forces, then the  Polish
>>: government-in-exile  in  London  asked  the
>>: International Red  Cross to  investigate, the  Soviet Union broke
>>: diplomatic  relations  with  the   exiles  and  objected  to  any
>>: investigation.  Britain and the U.S.  took the Soviet side in the
>>: issue.
>>
>>: I think, that apperently happend because Lord Churchil and Mr. Rusvelt
>>:  were KGB/communists soviet jews.
>>????? Are you joking?
>>Churchil and Poosvelt was aliant of Stalin and do not want make him angry.
>>Thats enough
>>
>>
>>: Later, during the Nuremberg trial, the
>>: Soviets accused the  Germans of this  crime. But cold war began and
>>: On Dec. 22, 1952, the U.S. Congress, following an investigation by its Select
>>: Committee on the Katyn Forest Massacre, unanimously ruled that it
>>: was the Soviets who were guilty.
>>Not only U.S. Congres say that Katyn was done for Soviet. Also for example
>>International Medical Comision from non - participation country.
>>In Norymberga on the Soviet demand German was prosecute for Katyn but
>>Norymberga Court do not say that German was gilty for Katyn even Soviet
>>participated in the Court.
>>: Since  World  War  II  the  Katyn  massacre  slipped  into near-oblivion, 
>>: except in  Poland.  But  it  has resurfaced  as a result of  a joint 
>>: declaration by	Mikhail Gorbachev (great traitor of the USSR and west lackey
>>: only) and Polish leader  Gen.  Wojciech Jaruzelski  in	April 21,  1987.  The
>>: two agreed that ``blank  spots'' is Soviet-Polish  relations would be
>>: removed. 
>>
>>But Gorbahov was not agrre that Katyn was done by  Soviet. Even now a lot
>>of Soviet oficials not agree that Katyn was done by SDoviet
>>
>> Although the Soviets	committed many crimes against the Poles
>>: during and  after World War  II, Katyn remains	high on the agenda, and the
>>: joint  Soviet-Polish commission of historians has addressed it.  The  Polish
>>: side has  no doubt who	is guilty (who like former occupant), but the Soviets
>>: keep repeating the old claim to have ``no evidence to the contrary'' in their
>>: archives.  The issue remains deadlocked.  Meanwhile, the Katyn cemetery has
>>: been opened to the public -- and the  Germans are  still blamed  for the 
>>: crime (poor German Nazis - they never killed any one civilian or military
>>: unarmed Pols in WWII, hey Miecz - S³awomir and motherfacker Warr - am I wrong
>>: ? ).  However, the Soviets have  claimed about 500 Soviet POWs perished with 
>>: the Polish officers (but who is worry about it, Soviet loose Cold War and we
>>: do not belive them).
>>Nearly all my family was morder by Soviet (and a have documents that it
>>was done by Soviet) and I have a lot of friend like me. It is a lot of
>>documents that Soviet killed a lot of
>>Polish People.
>>
>> Since the end of the Second World War many facts and
>>: many legends have been built up surrounding the events or even "non-events"
>>: of that international conflict. Many stories which originated through the
>>: official and unofficial propaganda channels have become a part of the popular
>>: history of the war. From the time of the war itself, many of the propaganda
>>: claims which circulated widely were questioned by official sources. Since the
>>: late 1940's, revisionist historians have attempted to bring our official
>>: history into accord with the facts. I do not like Stalin regime, but in Katyn
>>: story last word was not wrote yet.
>>
>>It is lie like that "it was only fee Jeavs killed diurin holocaust.
>>In Poland You could be prosecute for it.
>>My Grand Father was murde in Katyn  and I am very interested in the
>>subject of Katyn.
>>
>>: Documents:
>>
>>: KATYN FOREST MASSACRE
>>
>>:       THE CLAIM:
>>: Nuremberg Document 054-USSR. Report by a Special
>>:  Soviet Commission, 24 January 1944, concerning the
>>:  shooting of Polish officer prisoners of war in the forest of
>>:  Katyn. The executions had been carried out in autumn 1941
>>:  by the German "Staff of the Construction Battalion 537". In
>>:  spring 1943 the Germans, by blackmailing witnesses into
>>:  giving false evidence and by other means, had tried to make
>>:  it appear that the Soviet NKVD was responsible for the
>>:  shooting of the 11,000 victims.
>>It is a lot of provement that it is lie (even documents Soviet Politbiuro-
>>used by Russian Supreme Court durin proces for delegalization of the
>>Comunist Pary  after Janayew take over. That documents was also publish in
>>Poland (and as I know in the west too).
>>
>>: (as I proofbefore only 4,143  bodies were found and all were
>>: positively identified. I=P)
>>
>>: THE REVISIONS:
>>
>>:  "This committee unanimously finds... that the Soviet NKVD
>>:  committed the mass murders of the Polish officers and
>>:  intellectual leaders in the Katyn Forest... there has not
>>:  been... even any remote circumstantial evidence presented
>>:  that could indict any other nation in this international crime.
>>:  It is an established fact that approximately 15,000 Polish
>>:  prisoners were interned in three Soviet camps: Kozielsk,
>>:  Starobielsk, and Ostashkov in the winter of 1939-40. With
>>:  the exception of 400 prisoners, these men have not been
>>:  heard from... since the spring of 1940...."
>>: ===
>>:  U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee to
>>:  Investigate the Facts, The Katyn Forest Massacre:
>>:  Final Report. Issued 22 December 1952.
>>
>>: ( I can belive that from Stalin camps “these men have not been
>>:    heard from... since the spring of 1940....", 20 000 000 000 were killed in
>>: GULAG, but not because they were Pols, Jews or Russin - no, because they were
>>: HUMANs and Stalin do not like HUMANs)
>>
>>According Mr Chruszczow Report Stalin was killed 60 000 000 milion of
>>people (including meny Jews) partialy becous he give represion agains
>>human but often becouse thay murder people becouse of nationality
>>(aspecialy 
>>Polish, Ukrainien, Czeczenien )
>>
>>: In all cases innocent victims are unforgetable, but we have to know what kind
>>: of games politics play. Now Poland like German and do not like Russian, what
>>: the time will be after 40 years???
>>
>>I like Rusian as people and have Russian friends (and Germent friends
>>also) but it is a different that even in that moment german vwas danger
>>for Poland. Morower Germen was mostly prosecuted for his criminals 
>>Russian not.
>>
>>: I=P
>>
>>: -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>>: http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own    
>>Wlodzimierz Godlowski



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:32:24 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:45:25 -0600, John Walker
> wrote:
>
>>(See reply below)
>>
>>sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>>> >non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>>> >
>>> >A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>>> >ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews' physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>>> >repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>>> >naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>>> >why Jews are disliked.
>>> >
>>> >In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>>> >and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>>> >distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>>> >and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>>> >Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>>> >
>>> >Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>>> >with them.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>>> >to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>>> >aid.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>>> >more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>>> >(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>>> >of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>>> >the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>>> >world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>>> >to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>>> >all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>>> >congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>>> >billion/year of US taxpayers' money continues to be sent to Israel as
>>> >foreign aid.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>>> >more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>>> >communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>>> >strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews stole the Palestinians' homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>>> >Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>>> >the Jews.
>>> >
>>> >In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the "anti-semitism" they are
>>> >always complaining about.
>>
>>==== Reply: ===========
>>Jewish Leadership
>>------------------
>>There is an old saying in the world of salesmanship: "Once you have made the
>>sale, shut up!."
>>This is what I see to be a major reason for the growing "anti-Semitic"
>>provocation mentioned above.
>>The result  is a backlash against a tired old formula which is starting to
>>lose it's effectiveness. The Jewish problem is that they can't "shut up".
>>
>>Everywhere on the Internet we witness Jews promoting Jewish leadership.
>>Anyone with the
>>slightest argument against them is accused by Jews of hate. Those refusing to
>>accept Jewish self promotion and  Jewish leadership  are placed in the unfair
>>position of being  branded as  hate mongers. The real hate mongers, in this
>>case, is the Jews.
>>Intellectual honesty in these debates  is seldom condoned. Rather than an
>>offering of counter facts,
>>most often anti Jewish rebuttals are substituted with mere insults which
>>almost always  include accusations of unfounded hatred against the Jews.
>>
>>While Christians, Muslims, and others are busy converting people to their
>>religion, Jews are busy
>>promoting people to their Jewish influence. Gaining success in this activity
>>they are able to form a thought control machine wherein Jewish interests are
>>to be paramount.  The  very powerful Jewish lobby in the United States of
>>America is an example of that influence and leadership  which Jews now enjoy
>>- and it is supported for through the USA gifting of around 3 billion dollars
>>per year to Israel. Much of that money comes back to haunt us.
>>
>>Currently (981025), Jewish influence is testing their level of control by way
>>of trying to get the Jewish American traitor and super spy, J. Pollard,
>>released from prison even though Pollard remains a continuing threat to USA
>>security.. But Israel itself  has betrayed her friendship with the United
>>States by recruiting Pollard to spy for the Jewish state.  Through such acts,
>>Israel was able to sell top secret technical information to countries which
>>act against our security interests.  All of this amounts to even more reason
>>why so much "anti-Semitism" is generated by the Jews themselves.
>>
>>A real friend would not do what Israel has been doing to the United States.
>>Can any reasonable
>>USA patriot citizen offer continued loyalty to that country - Israel - which
>>has betrayed the US more than all others combined?
>>
>>The common pro-Jewish argument is that Jews have suffered throughout the ages
>>and that they must
>>gain world leadership as a matter of security.  The argument continues to be
>>strained as we observe
>>that, more and more, according to the Jews, only Jewish suffering is to have
>>any real meaning.  Witness the Jewish Holocaust museums where none but the
>>Jewish victims  are remembered for the carnage's of W.W.II. The over one
>>hundred million victims of socialist states, since the communist revolution,
>>don't even make it to most history books.
>>
>>I believe I have been objective and honest  in this reply. My message was
>>more by way of observation than it was of accusation.  Still, I can expect
>>extreme distortions from Jews all over,  Jews who I have not met, who will
>>accuse me of hating them.  But, they want me to hate them because that
>>alleged hate is what motivates Jews more than anything else to fight, ever
>>more, for their selfish influence in the affairs of our daily lives.
>>
>>Jews are the only ones who will tell you that you hate them -
>>and if  you disagree, they will argue with you until you do.
>>
>>== jw =====



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On Sat, 02 May 1998 17:33:40 +0100, John S Moore
 wrote:

>If you mean to persuade us that Hitler’s racial policy was a justified response to the horrors of Jewish
>bolshevism, why do you spoil your case by publishing childish genocidal rant on your site?
>http://207.105.95.101/texts/cng/nordicslut.html
>
>Doc Tavish wrote:
>
>> http://weber.u.washington.edu/~newstdnt/fsem/win97fsem/fsem_8.html
>> University of Washington
>>
>> Crimes Without Punishment: The Communist Holocaust
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Dr. Nikolai Popov -- Comparative Literature
>> GEN ST 197 H (SLN: 3690) M 2:30-3:20 THO 231
>>
>> From 1917 on, the Soviet regime exterminated tens of millions of
>> people. How can the numbing dimensions of that Holocaust be
>> represented? This seminar will read testimonies and historical
>> studies, fiction and poetry, grappling with history's longest re ign
>> of terror and its consequences today. With its broad humanistic appeal
>> and through the topic of representation, this seminar will familiarize
>> students with the concerns and methods of a range of disciplines, from
>> literary studies and history to political science and international
>> studies. Text(s): none
>>
>>         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/ad2kulak.html
>>
>> Hanging Order
>>
>> 11-8-18
>>
>> Send to Penza To Comrades Kuraev, Bosh, Minkin and other Penza
>> communists
>>
>> Comrades! The revolt by the five kulak volost's must be suppressed
>> without mercy. The interest of the entire revolution demands this,
>> because we have now before us our final decisive battle "with the
>> kulaks." We need to set an example.
>>
>> 1.You need to hang (hang without fail, so that the public sees) at
>> least 100 notorious kulaks, the rich, and the bloodsuckers. 2.Publish
>> their names. 3.Take away all of their grain. 4.Execute the hostages -
>> in accordance with yesterday's telegram.
>>
>> This needs to be accomplished in such a way, that people for hundreds
>> of miles around will see, tremble, know and scream out: let's choke
>> and strangle those blood-sucking kulaks.
>>
>> Telegraph us acknowledging receipt and execution of this.
>>
>> Yours, Lenin
>>
>> P.S. Use your toughest people for this.
>>
>> ______________________
>>
>> TRANSLATOR'S COMMENTS: Lenin uses the derogative term kulach'e in
>> reference to the class of prosperous peasants. A volost' was a
>> territorial/administrative unit consisting of a few villages and
>> surrounding land.
>>
>> [not numbered]
>>
>>               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> This Library of Congress Soviet Archives exhibition is important for
>> what it represents, what it contains, and what it suggests.
>>
>> MAIN PAGE
>>
>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>> Here is a link within Sunsite:
>>
>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>
>> You will see as an opener the following:
>>
>> "The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>> April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>> Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>> the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>> meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>> military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>> contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>> States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>> support for the Soviet war effort.
>>
>> The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>> director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>> Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>> newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>> poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>> movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>> [see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>> General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>> Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>> non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>
>> A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>> became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>> Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>> pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>> telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>> anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>
>>                 -------------------------------------------
>>
>> The GULAG
>>
>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/gulag.html
>>
>> The Soviet system of forced labor camps was first established in 1919
>> under the Cheka, but it was not until the early 1930s that the camp
>> population reached significant numbers. By 1934 the GULAG, or Main
>> Directorate for Corrective Labor Camps, then under the Cheka's
>> successor organization the NKVD, had several million inmates.
>> Prisoners included murderers, thieves, and other common
>> criminals--along with political and religious dissenters. The GULAG,
>> whose camps were located mainly in remote regions of Siberia and the
>> Far North, made significant contributions to the Soviet economy in the
>> period of Joseph Stalin. GULAG prisoners constructed the White
>> Sea-Baltic Canal, the Moscow-Volga Canal, the Baikal-Amur main
>> railroad line, numerous hydroelectric stations, and strategic roads
>> and industrial enterprises in remote regions. GULAG manpower was also
>> used for much of the country's lumbering and for the mining of coal,
>> copper, and gold.
>>
>> Stalin constantly increased the number of projects assigned to the
>> NKVD, which led to an increasing reliance on its labor. The GULAG also
>> served as a source of workers for economic projects independent of the
>> NKVD, which contracted its prisoners out to various economic
>> enterprises.
>>
>> Conditions in the camps were extremely harsh. Prisoners received
>> inadequate food rations and insufficient clothing, which made it
>> difficult to endure the severe weatherand the long working hours;
>> sometimes the inmates were physically abused by camp guards. As a
>> result, the death rate from exhaustion and disease in the camps was
>> high. After Stalin died in 1953, the GULAG population was reduced
>> significantly, and conditions for inmates somewhat improved. Forced
>> labor camps continued to exist, although on a small scale, into the
>> Gorbachev period, and the government even opened some camps to
>> scrutiny by journalists and human rights activists. With the advance
>> of democratization, political prisoners and prisoners of conscience
>> all but disappeared from the camps.
>>
>> > all the way up to and including the Gorbachev period!>
>>
>> The conditions of the Gulags:
>>
>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/d2presid.html
>>
>> To the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the All-Union
>> Communist Party (Bolshevik)
>>
>> We appeal to you, asking you to pay a minimum of attention to our
>> request.
>>
>> We are prisoners who are returning from the Solovetsky concentration
>> camp because of our poor health. We went there full of energy and good
>> health, and now we are returning as invalids, broken and crippled
>> emotionally and physically. We are asking you to draw your attention
>> to the arbitrary use of power and the violence that reign at the
>> Solovetsky concentration camp in Kemi and in all sections of the
>> concentration camp. It is difficult for a human being even to imagine
>> such terror, tyranny, violence, and lawlessness. When we went there,
>> we could not conceive of such a horror, and now we, crippled
>> ourselves, together with several thousands who are still there, appeal
>> to the ruling center of the Soviet state to curb the terror that
>> reigns there. As though it weren't enough that the Unified State
>> Political Directorate [OGPU] without oversight and due process sends
>> workers and peasants there who are by and large innocent (we are not
>> talking about criminals who deserve to be punished), the former
>> tsarist penal servitude system in comparison to Solovky had 99% more
>> humanity, fairness, and legality. [...]
>>
>> People die like flies, i.e., they die a slow and painful death; we
>> repeat that all this torment and suffering is placed only on the
>> shoulders of the proletariat without money, i.e., on workers who, we
>> repeat, were unfortunate to find themselves in the period of hunger
>> and destruction accompanying the events of the October Revolution, and
>> who committed crimes only to save themselves and their families from
>> death by starvation; they have already borne the punishment for these
>> crimes, and the vast majority of them subsequently chose the path of
>> honest labor. Now because of their past, for whose crime they have
>> already paid, they are fired from their jobs. Yet, the main thing is
>> that the entire weight of this scandalous abuse of power, brute
>> violence, and lawlessness that reign at Solovky and other sections of
>> the OGPU concentration camp is placed on the shoulders of workers and
>> peasants; others, such as counterrevolutionaries, profiteers and so
>> on, have full wallets and have set themselves up and live in clover in
>> the Soviet State, while next to them, in the literal meaning of the
>> word, the penniless proletariat dies from hunger, cold, and back-
>> breaking 14-16 hour days under the tyranny and lawlessness of inmates
>> who are the agents and collaborators of the State Political
>> Directorate [GPU].
>>
>> If you complain or write anything ("Heaven forbid"), they will frame
>> you for an attempted escape or for something else, and they will shoot
>> you like a dog. They line us up naked and barefoot at 22 degrees below
>> zero and keep us outside for up to an hour. It is difficult to
>> describe all the chaos and terror that is going on in Kemi, Solovky,
>> and the other sections of the concentrations camp. All annual
>> inspections uncover a lot of abuses. But what they discover in
>> comparison to what actually exists is only a part of the horror and
>> abuse of power, which the inspection accidently uncovers. (One example
>> is the following fact, one of a thousand, which is registered in GPU
>> and for which the guilty have been punished: THEY FORCED THE INMATES
>> TO EAT THEIR OWN FECES. "Comrades," if we dare to use this phrase,
>> verify that this is a fact from reality, about which, we repeat, OGPU
>> has the official evidence, and judge for yourself the full extent of
>> effrontery and humiliation in the supervision by those who want to
>> make a career for themselves. [...]
>>
>> We are sure and we hope that in the All-Union Communist Party there
>> are people, as we have been told, who are humane and sympathetic; it
>> is possible, that you might think that it is our imagination, but we
>> swear to you all, by everything that is sacred to us, that this is
>> only one small part of the nightmarish truth, because it makes no
>> sense to make this up. We repeat, and will repeat 100 times, that yes,
>> indeed there are some guilty people, but the majority suffer
>> innocently, as is described above. The word law, according to the law
>> of the GPU concentration camps, does not exist; what does exist is
>> only the autocratic power of petty tyrants, i.e., collaborators,
>> serving time, who have power over life and death. Everything described
>> above is the truth and we, ourselves, who are close to the grave after
>> 3 years in Solovky and Kemi and other sections, are asking you to
>> improve the pathetic, tortured existence of those who are there who
>> languish under the yoke of the OGPU's tyranny, violence, and complete
>> lawlessness....
>>
>> To this we subscribe: G. Zheleznov, Vinogradov, F. Belinskii.
>>
>> Dec. 14, 1926
>>
>> True copy
>>
>> ______________________
>>
>> TRANSLATOR'S COMMENTS: The letter is written in very poor Russian. For
>> the sake of clarity, the translator corrected the grammar and
>> substituted a few words.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> More on Jewish Antifacist Committee:
>>
>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/m2antfac.html
>>
>> JEWISH ANTIFASCIST COMMITTEE IN THE USSR
>>
>> Moscow, ulitsa Kropotkina, 10, Telephone: G-6-71-00, G-6-47-07
>>
>> [letterhead also in Russian and Yiddish]
>>                                                 ^^^^^
>>
>> 21 June 1946
>>
>> TO COMRADE M. A. SUSLOV, DIRECTOR OF THE SECTION FOR FOREIGN POLICY OF
>> THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY
>>
>> Pursuant to the inquiry of Comrade Shumeiko, we are providing some
>> information about the Jewish Antifascist Committee in the USSR and its
>> activity.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> The Jewish Antifascist Committee in the USSR was formed soon after the
>> first antifascist radio broadcast political rally of representatives
>> of the Jewish people, which was held in Moscow in August 1941.
>>
>> The Committee consists of 70 members (a list of Committee members is
>> attached), and its executive committee has 19 members (a list of
>> executive committee members is attached).
>>
>> The working staff of the Committee consists of:
>>
>> 1.Secretary of the Committee, whose duties (following the death of
>> Comrade Shakhno Epshtein) are carried out by the writer I. Fefer,
>> member of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) [VKP(b)] since
>> 1919. 2.Deputy Secretary of the Committee, Comrade S.M. Shpigel'glias,
>> VKP(b) member since 1919 and formerly a party worker. 3.Senior
>> editors: N. IA. Levin, VKP(b) member since 1944 and veteran of World
>> War II; L. A. Goldberg, not a party member, former director of the
>> publishing house Der Emes; editor S.O. Berman, VKP(b) member since
>> 1940, veteran of World War II; and three translators and several
>> technical workers.
>>
>> In the course of the last two years, representatives of a series of
>> foreign Jewish antifascist organizations have visited the Committee:
>> Deputy Chairman of the Jewish Antifascist Committee of Bulgaria, Mr.
>> Zhak Vradzhali; one of the leaders of the Union of Jews of
>> Czechoslovakia, Mr. Rozenberg; representatives of Jewish organizations
>> of France, Poland, et al.
>>
>> Recently Mr. Ben Zion Goldberg (Waife), the son-in-law of Sholem
>> Aleichem, visited the Soviet Union. He is a prominent public figure in
>> the United States, a member of the executive committee of the
>> Soviet-American Friendship Society (headed by Lamont), chairman of the
>> Committee of Jewish Scientists, Writers, and Artists of the United
>> States (Albert Einstein is president of the Committee), vice-president
>> of Ambidjan, the All-American Society for Aid to Birobidzhan
>> (president of Ambidzhan-- Steffenson). Mr. Goldberg is also a major
>> American journalist, a contributor to the newspapers Toronto Star,
>> Saint Louis Dispatch, New York Post, and Today, and to the magazine
>> New Republic. Mr. Goldberg stayed in the Soviet Union from January 11
>> to June 8, excluding one month when he traveled to Finland, Sweden,
>> and Denmark.
>>
>> During his stay in the Soviet Union, Mr. Goldberg was received in
>> Moscow by M. I. Kalinin and S. A. Lozovskii; he attended all meetings
>> of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union; and he had a series of
>> meetings with Soviet writers (including a banquet at the Union of
>> Writers), with representatives of the Soviet Jewish community (at the
>> Jewish Antifascist Committee in the USSR headquarters), with leaders
>> of the State Jewish Theater, with the chief rabbi of the Moscow Jewish
>> congregation, Shliffer, and with leaders of the Red Cross, among
>> others.
>>
>> Mr. Goldberg visited Riga, Tallin, Leningrad, Minsk, Vilnius, Kaunas,
>> Kiev, Odessa, Lvov, Uzhgorod, Mukachevo, Brody, and Stalingrad. He was
>> received by the leading workers and writers in the capitals of the
>> union republics.
>>
>> During his stay in the Soviet Union, Mr. Goldberg dispatched via the
>> Soviet Information Bureau 33 articles to the American, Canadian,
>> English, Palestinian, Polish, and Yiddish press. The articles were
>> extremely friendly toward the Soviet Union.
>>
>> Before his departure, Mr. Goldberg began to write a book in English
>> entitled England, the Opponent of Peace, and a book in Yiddish
>> entitled Jewish Culture in the Soviet Union.
>>
>> Recently the Committee has received a series of requests from
>> prominent Jewish public figures from several countries seeking
>> assistance in visiting the Soviet Union. Such requests were received
>> from: N. Goldman, the chairman of the executive committee of the World
>> Jewish Congress; Dr. Stephen Wise, chairman of the American Jewish
>> Congress; Louis Levine, chairman of the Jewish Union for Soviet Aid
>> under Russian War Relief; Mr. Raiskii, the editor-in-chief of the
>> newspaper Presse Nouvelle in Paris; et al.
>>
>> The Jewish Antifascist Committee in the USSR has sent during its
>> entire existence one delegation, composed of Comrades Mikhoels and
>> Fefer, to the United States, England, Canada, and Mexico. This
>> delegations's trip report has been published in the book The Jewish
>> People against Fascism (attached; see pp. 91- 129).
>>
>> [signed]
>>
>> Chairman of the Jewish Anfifascist Committee in the USSR: S. Mikhoels
>>
>> Member of the Executive Committee of the Jewish Antifascist Committee
>> in the USSR: I. Fefer
>>
>> _____________________
>>
>> TRANSLATOR'S COMMENTS:
>>
>> [Stamps at upper right:] Removed from the register; to the dossier of
>> [blank] sector; date: 9 Jan. 1947.
>>
>> [Secretariat OMI], Central Committee of the Communist Party No. 2074 1
>> July 1946
>>
>> [Handwritten marginalia at left margin of p. 1:] To the archive
>> [illegible notations and signature] The book stays. [signed] G.
>> Shumeiko 25/1948
>>
>> ...................................................................................................
>>
>> All material above is from a Library of Congress Web Site as stated on
>> its main page: Soviet Archives Exhibit
>> Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit.
>>
>> ....................................................................................................
>>
>> More on RED TERROR
>>
>> THE RED TERROR [Section of Article]
>>
>> http://www.hrc.wmin.ac.uk/guest/radical/ES-BOLSH.HTM#4
>>
>> The Red Terror was partly a reaction to the greater horrors of the
>> anti-Bolshevik terror in which 23,000 Reds were killed in Finland and
>> 100,000 Jews were murdered in the Ukraine. Nevertheless Lenin
>> repeatedly advocated terror even before the attempt on his life in
>> September 1918. For example during one anti-Bolshevik revolt he told
>> the authorities to organise "mass terror, shoot and deport the
>> hundreds of prostitutes who are making drunkards of the soldiers."
>>
>> Such attitudes enabled the Cheka to acquire widespread powers with
>> virtually no external controls. By the end of the war its head,
>> Dzerzhinsky, was able to say that "the prisons are packed chiefly with
>> workers and peasants instead of the bourgeoisie", and one of his chief
>> lieutenants, Latsis, wrote that: "there is no sphere of life exempt
>> from Cheka coverage." Lenin himself said that "during the war -
>> anybody who placed his own interest above the common interests ... was
>> shot.... we could not emerge from the old society without resorting to
>> compulsion as far as the backward section of the proletariat was
>> concerned."
>>
>> Estimates of the numbers executed include 50,000 and 140,000 and
>> George Leggett lists many unsubstantiated accusations of torture.
>> Victor Serge later claimed that "during the civil war there was
>> perfect order behind the front itself.... There was nothing to prevent
>> the functioning of regular courts." But most of those killed never had
>> a trial and one Cheka member recalled that "our Red detachments would
>> 'clean up' villages exactly the way the Whites did. What was left of
>> the inhabitants, old men, women, children, were machine-gunned for
>> having given assistance to the enemy." 30
>>
>> The Bolshevik leadership sometimes clearly encouraged brutality. For
>> instance, as the Whites threatened Petrograd, Lenin asked Trotsky: "Is
>> it impossible to mobilise another 2,000 Petrograd workers plus 10,000
>> members of the bourgeoisie, set up cannons behind them, shoot a few
>> hundred of them and obtain a real mass impact on Yudenich?" Trotsky
>> thankfully disregarded this but the Bolsheviks did use terror against
>> whole groups of people such as the Cossacks or the Tambov peasants.
>> The Tambov rebellion of 1920-21 was extremely brutal and the Red Army
>> crushed the uprising with the burning of villages and mass executions.
>> One government order demanded that peasants should be shot simply for
>> "giving shelter to members of a 'bandit's' family".
>>
>> The Terror encouraged many anarchists to join Nestor Makhno's peasant
>> movement in the Ukraine. This movement was much more popular than the
>> Bolsheviks in some areas so the Red Army made three successful
>> alliances with him against the Whites. In these areas only 'working
>> people' could stand for soviet elections, not Bolsheviks or SRs, but
>> there were no restrictions on their press provided they did not
>> advocate an armed uprising. However in the summer of 1919 the
>> Bolsheviks executed several of Makhno's officers and tried to ban the
>> Makhnovist peasant congresses. From then on the two sides fought
>> fiercely whenever the White threat diminished. Both sides shot
>> prisoners but Makhno's army tended to restrict executions to those in
>> authority whereas the Bolsheviks shot many rank-and-file Makhnovists.
>> 31
>>
>> Notes used:
>>
>> 30 Farber, 117-19; LCW v35, 349; v30, 510; Leggett, 465, 198, 184,
>> 328-33, 349; E.Poretsky, Our Own People, 214. In the first months
>> repression was relatively mild and many prisons had education
>> facilities. However concentration camps were set up from July 1918 and
>> mortality reached 30% in those in the north. Leggett says they were
>> sometimes cleared by mass executions. The death penalty was formally
>> abolished in 1920 but it was evaded by the local chekas and revoked by
>> the summer. M.Jakobson, The Origins of the Gulag, 37, 23-4, 40.
>>
>> 31 Farber, 123; Service, 43; M.Palij, The Anarchism of Nestor Makhno,
>> 151-2, 175-7, 212-19; M.Malet, Nestor Makhno..., 32, 39, 100, 129,
>> 136.
>>
>>                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Notice that the opening sentence declared the cause of the Red Terror.
>> It said: "The Red Terror was partly a reaction to the greater horrors
>> of the anti-Bolshevik terror in which 23,000 Reds were killed in
>> Finland and 100,000 Jews were murdered in the Ukraine."
>>
>> Anti-Bolsheviks killed 100,000 Jews. Were Bolsheviks Jews?
>>
>> Here are some extracts from numerous sources:
>>
>> "Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>> commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>> the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>> which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>> common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>> Consider this:
>>
>> Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>> Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>> Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>> Russian Bolshevik party.
>>
>> In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>> and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>> scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>> on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>> 824-827).
>>                         -------------------------------------
>>
>> U.S. Gov't Printing Office House Document 1868
>> (65th Congress, 3d session- file# 861.00/8029):
>> Report of the Netherland Minister Relating to the conditions in
>> Petrograd.
>>
>> "Whole Soviet government has sunk to the level of a criminal
>> organisation. Bolsheviks realise that their game is up and have
>> entered into a career of criminal madness."
>>
>> "I found it necessary to promise that Litvinov should be allowed to
>> leave England at once..."
>>
>> "The foregoing report will indicate the extremely critical nature of
>> the present situation. The danger is now so great that I feel it is my
>> duty to call the attention of the British and all other Governments to
>> the fact that if an end is not put to Bolshevism in Russia at once the
>> civilisation of the whole world will be threatened...."
>>
>> "...the danger is also being realised in German and Austrian quarters.
>> I consider that the immediate suppression of Bolshevism is the
>> greatest issue now before the world, not even excluding the war which
>> is still raging, and unless as above stated Bolshevism is nipped in
>> the bud immediately it is bound to spread in one form or another over
>> Europe and the whole world as it is organised and worked by Jews who
>> have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own
>> ends the existing order of things."
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>> About Trotsky, who authorized the slaughter mentioned above:
>>
>> http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>
>> Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>> November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>> Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>> with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>
>> Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>> Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>> Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>> Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>> exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>> adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>> Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>> publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>> writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>
>> At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>> Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>> independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>> ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>> an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>> practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>> Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>> Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>> backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>> Results and Prospects.
>>
>> Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>> his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>> 1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>> Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>> leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>> Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>> Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>> eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>> Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>> Committee.
>>
>> As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>> September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>> provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>> support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>> hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>> directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>> revolution......
>>
>>
>> ----
>> Visit the Official Doc Tavish Library at:
>>
>> http://www.crusader.net/texts/cng/doc
>



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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:20:34 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:

>Kolyan wrote:
>> 
>> SOMEONE is absolutely false in many facts (52 per in VKP(b) are judes...),
>> but there were a lot of judes involved to revoluton 17. He forgot only one
>> simple
>> thing - 99 per of them were executed by Iosif Vissarionovich.
>
>I presume you mean Josef Vissarionovich Dzugashvili??
>
>> The simpliest
>> example is Bronstein (Trotsky) who was very talanted organizator. I want to
>> mention that many judes served to Hitler and holocost is reconsidered now.
>> Hitler wanted to improve nazist influence on Middle East by help of Israel
>> and judes - what would you say on that?
>
>Of course the judes worked for Hitler, the same as they worked for
>Stalin. Read the attached for clarification.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:32:24 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:45:25 -0600, John Walker
> wrote:
>
>>(See reply below)
>>
>>sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>>> >non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>>> >
>>> >A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>>> >ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews' physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>>> >repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>>> >naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>>> >why Jews are disliked.
>>> >
>>> >In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>>> >and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>>> >distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>>> >and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>>> >Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>>> >
>>> >Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>>> >with them.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>>> >to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>>> >aid.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>>> >more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>>> >(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>>> >of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>>> >the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>>> >world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>>> >to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>>> >all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>>> >congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>>> >billion/year of US taxpayers' money continues to be sent to Israel as
>>> >foreign aid.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>>> >more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>>> >communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>>> >strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews stole the Palestinians' homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>>> >Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>>> >the Jews.
>>> >
>>> >In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the "anti-semitism" they are
>>> >always complaining about.
>>
>>==== Reply: ===========
>>Jewish Leadership
>>------------------
>>There is an old saying in the world of salesmanship: "Once you have made the
>>sale, shut up!."
>>This is what I see to be a major reason for the growing "anti-Semitic"
>>provocation mentioned above.
>>The result  is a backlash against a tired old formula which is starting to
>>lose it's effectiveness. The Jewish problem is that they can't "shut up".
>>
>>Everywhere on the Internet we witness Jews promoting Jewish leadership.
>>Anyone with the
>>slightest argument against them is accused by Jews of hate. Those refusing to
>>accept Jewish self promotion and  Jewish leadership  are placed in the unfair
>>position of being  branded as  hate mongers. The real hate mongers, in this
>>case, is the Jews.
>>Intellectual honesty in these debates  is seldom condoned. Rather than an
>>offering of counter facts,
>>most often anti Jewish rebuttals are substituted with mere insults which
>>almost always  include accusations of unfounded hatred against the Jews.
>>
>>While Christians, Muslims, and others are busy converting people to their
>>religion, Jews are busy
>>promoting people to their Jewish influence. Gaining success in this activity
>>they are able to form a thought control machine wherein Jewish interests are
>>to be paramount.  The  very powerful Jewish lobby in the United States of
>>America is an example of that influence and leadership  which Jews now enjoy
>>- and it is supported for through the USA gifting of around 3 billion dollars
>>per year to Israel. Much of that money comes back to haunt us.
>>
>>Currently (981025), Jewish influence is testing their level of control by way
>>of trying to get the Jewish American traitor and super spy, J. Pollard,
>>released from prison even though Pollard remains a continuing threat to USA
>>security.. But Israel itself  has betrayed her friendship with the United
>>States by recruiting Pollard to spy for the Jewish state.  Through such acts,
>>Israel was able to sell top secret technical information to countries which
>>act against our security interests.  All of this amounts to even more reason
>>why so much "anti-Semitism" is generated by the Jews themselves.
>>
>>A real friend would not do what Israel has been doing to the United States.
>>Can any reasonable
>>USA patriot citizen offer continued loyalty to that country - Israel - which
>>has betrayed the US more than all others combined?
>>
>>The common pro-Jewish argument is that Jews have suffered throughout the ages
>>and that they must
>>gain world leadership as a matter of security.  The argument continues to be
>>strained as we observe
>>that, more and more, according to the Jews, only Jewish suffering is to have
>>any real meaning.  Witness the Jewish Holocaust museums where none but the
>>Jewish victims  are remembered for the carnage's of W.W.II. The over one
>>hundred million victims of socialist states, since the communist revolution,
>>don't even make it to most history books.
>>
>>I believe I have been objective and honest  in this reply. My message was
>>more by way of observation than it was of accusation.  Still, I can expect
>>extreme distortions from Jews all over,  Jews who I have not met, who will
>>accuse me of hating them.  But, they want me to hate them because that
>>alleged hate is what motivates Jews more than anything else to fight, ever
>>more, for their selfish influence in the affairs of our daily lives.
>>
>>Jews are the only ones who will tell you that you hate them -
>>and if  you disagree, they will argue with you until you do.
>>
>>== jw =====



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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:41:19 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.      
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>>        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>>        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>>        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>>        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>>        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>>        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German "death camps" were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>>        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>>        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>>        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>   
>>>>        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted. 
>>>
>>>>        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum. 
>>>
>>>>        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>>        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.        
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>>        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>>        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>>        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>>        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>>        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>>        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>>        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>>        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>>        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>>        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>>        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>  
>>>>        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well. 
>>>
>>>>        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>>        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring. 
>>>
>>>>        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        About 300,000.
>>>
>>>>        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>>        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>>        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>>        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
>>>
>>>>        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>>        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.        
>>>
>>>>        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>>        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>>        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>>        About two hours.
>>>
>>>>        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>>        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>>        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>>        About 430,600.
>>>
>>>>        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>>        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>>        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>        
>>>>        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>>        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>>        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>>        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>>        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>>        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
>>>
>>>>        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust. 
>>>
>>>>        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>>        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>>        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text. 
>>>
>>>>        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it. 
>>>
>>>>        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>>>>man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine. 
>>>
>>>>        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin's butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay's
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>>        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>       
>>>>        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>>        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>>        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada. 
>>>
>>>>        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>>        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>>        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>>        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>>        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>>        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>>        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>>        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making. 
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg's
>>>>production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>>        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>>        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>>        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>>        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned. 
>>>
>>>>        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany. 
>>>
>>>>        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>>        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people's
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country's original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>>        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>>        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew> could 
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser



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On Fri, 19 Sep 1997 13:15:13 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
 wrote:

>dddddddddd
>below, Hermie's cyberthrash
>-------------
>md
>
>greatdane@mindspring.com wrote:
>> 
>> PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>> 
>> More Pawlikowski apologies for Nazi behavior!
>> > ============
>> > Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>> > Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>> > the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>> > occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>> > seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>> > Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>> > draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>> > after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>> > why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>> >
>> > Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres.
>> > Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>> > hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>> > grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>> > that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>> > young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>> > afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>> > find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>> > presently in Lithuania.
>> >
>> > But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>> > occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>> > were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei.
>> > They were ususally not armed,
>> 
>> Pawlikowski will have you believe that the German occupation police in
>> Minsk were unarmed!!!!!!
>> 
>> > and when armed never given more than five
>> > bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>> > (as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>> > each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>> > the genocide.
>> 
>> Hardly truth to Pawlikowski's story too.
>> 
>> > On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>> > service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>> > emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>> > Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>> > post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>> > education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>> >
>> > But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>> > Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>> > of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>> > journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>> > from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>> > closed.
>> 
>> The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>> longer or die now!
>> 
>> Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>> ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>> > While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>> > intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>> >
>> > Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>> > description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>> > Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>> > Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>> > three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>> > Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>> > the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>> >
>> > -------------
>> > Jozef Pawlikowski
>> >
>> > We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>> > graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>> > ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>> > dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>> > ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>> >
>> Does there any normal healthy human being want to see the corpses of
>> your loved ones excavated? Maybe Pawlikowski would enjoy watching the
>> bones of his or her mother exhumed to count the bones as they demand of
>> other people.
>> 
>> Herman
>> > ------------



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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:

>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.      


>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>>        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>>        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>>        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>>        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>>        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>>        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German "death camps" were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>>        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>>        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>>        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>   
>>>>        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted. 
>>>
>>>>        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum. 
>>>
>>>>        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>>        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.        
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>>        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>>        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>>        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>>        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>>        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>>        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>>        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>>        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>>        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>>        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>>        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>  
>>>>        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well. 
>>>
>>>>        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>>        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring. 
>>>
>>>>        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        About 300,000.
>>>
>>>>        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>>        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>>        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>>        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
>>>
>>>>        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>>        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.        
>>>
>>>>        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>>        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>>        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>>        About two hours.
>>>
>>>>        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>>        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>>        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>>        About 430,600.
>>>
>>>>        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>>        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>>        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>        
>>>>        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>>        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>>        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>>        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>>        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>>        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
>>>
>>>>        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust. 
>>>
>>>>        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>>        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>>        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text. 
>>>
>>>>        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it. 
>>>
>>>>        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>>>>man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine. 
>>>
>>>>        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin's butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay's
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>>        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>       
>>>>        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>>        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>>        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada. 
>>>
>>>>        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>>        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>>        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>>        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>>        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>>        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>>        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>>        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making. 
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg's
>>>>production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>>        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>>        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>>        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>>        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned. 
>>>
>>>>        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany. 
>>>
>>>>        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>>        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people's
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country's original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>>        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>>        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew> could 
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser
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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:29:59 -0700, Ed Kadach 
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>
>>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>>
>>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>>
>>
>>>Clancy wrote:
>>
>>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>>
>>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>>
>>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>>
>>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>>> the murderer).
>>
>>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>>> sentiment.
>>
>>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
>> 
>>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>>
>>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
>> 
>>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>>
>>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>>
>>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
>> 
>>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>>> Police.
>>
>>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>>> peasants in Spain.
>> 
>>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>>
>>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>>
>>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
>> 
>>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>>> Meadow).
>>
>>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>>> Julius Rosenwald.
>> 
>>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>>
>>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
>> 
>>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
>> 
>>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>>> member of the Central Committee.
>>
>>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
>> 
>>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
>> 
>>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
>> 
>>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
>> 
>>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
>> 
>>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
>> 
>>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
>> 
>>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>>> LEON KASMAN,
>> 
>>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
>> 
>>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
>> 
>>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>>> raised.
>> 
>>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
>> 
>>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
>> 
>>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
>> 
>>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
>> 
>>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>>> 1992).
>> 
>>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
>> 
>>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
>> 
>>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
>> 
>>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
>> 
>>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
>> 
>>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>>      world-wide social revolution."
>> 
>>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
>> 
>>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
>> 
>>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
>> 
>>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
>> 
>>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
>> 
>>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
>> 
>>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
>> 
>>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>>> 414 New York (1937):
>> 
>>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
>> 
>>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
>> 
>>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>>      Judaism."
>> 
>>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>>
>>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>>
>>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
>> 
>>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
>> 
>>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
>> 
>>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>>      executioners."
>>
>>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>>
>>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
>> 
>>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
>> 
>>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>>> Jewesses.
>>
>>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
>> 
>>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>>> people."
>>
>>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
>> 
>>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
>> 
>>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
>> 
>>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
>> 
>>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
>> 
>>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
>> 
>>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>>
>>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>>> government-funded."
>>
>>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
>> 
>>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>> 
>>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:32:18 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 19:06:28 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 19 Sep 1998 22:15:24 +1000, observor 
>>wrote:
>
>>>Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>>>speaking of World War Two.
>
>>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing what
>>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>>'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf
>>>Hitler's knowledge and approval.
>
>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including
>>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to
>>>100,000 troops."
>
>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>>Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's
>>>Cross.
>
>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish
>>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew
>>>and who is an Aryan.''
>
>>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>
>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>>(kapos).
>
>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>>>Sources:
>
>>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:32:10 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 13:45:53 GMT, abu-jihad@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Commercializing' the Holocaust
>>
>>The Los Angeles Wiesenthal Center pays the Vienna "Nazi Hunter" $75,000 a year for the use of his name, the director of Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust
>>center said in 1988. 
>>
>>Both the Center and Wiesenthal "commercialize" and "trivialize" the Holocaust, the director added. 
>>
>>Wiesenthal "threw out" the figure of "11 million who were murdered in the Holocaust -- six million Jews and five million non-Jews," said the Yad
>>Vashem official. When asked why he gave these figures, Wiesenthal replied: "The gentiles will not pay attention if we do not mention their victims,
>>too." Wiesenthal "chose 'five million (gentiles)' because he wanted a 'diplomatic' number, one that told of a large number of gentile victims but in
>>no way was larger than that of Jews ..."
>>
>>"What Wiesenthal and the Los Angeles Center that bears his name do is to trivialize the Holocaust," commented The Jewish Press, a weekly that claims
>>to be the largest-circulation English-language Jewish community paper in America. 
>>
>>In recent years Wiesenthal has been concerned about the growing impact of Holocaust revisionism. In "A Message from Simon Wiesenthal" published by the
>>Center that bears his name, he said: "Today, when I see the rise of antisemitism here in Europe ... the popularity of Le Pen, of David Duke, of the
>>Holocaust revisionists, then I am convinced more than ever about the need for our new [Wiesenthal Center] Beit Hashoah-Museum of Tolerance" in Los
>>Angeles.
>>
>>Wiesenthal is often asked why he does not forgive those who persecuted Jews half a century ago. His stock answer is that although he has the right to
>>forgive for himself, he does not have the right to forgive on behalf of others.On the basis of this sophistical logic, though, neither does he have
>>the right to accuse and track down anyone in the name of others. Wiesenthal has never confined his "hunt" to those who victimized him personally.
>>
>>END OF ARTICLE  (From  Radio Islam     http://www.radioislam.org)
>>
>>Sadly the above portrayal is the type of crazy person that results from zionist breeding (inbreeding ?) and zionist  brainwashing. 
>>
>>A proof that zionism makes the human mind go crazy by it's demands on  adherents that they believe the unbelievable. 
>>
>>I , Abu Jihad , have dealt with and seen too many screaming zionist crazies on these newsgroups to believe that this is an isolated phenomenon.
>>Sometimes one can almost feel these rabid "jewish" zionists foaming at the mouth like demented creatures of the Twilight Zone as they clatter away at
>>their keyboards with their transmogrifying hands-cum-paws. Trying desperately to hide the truth about Satanic World Zionism and the Satanic Zionist
>>Occupation of Palestine. But God has truly cursed them and now more and more people are spreading the truth about their lying ways. On USENET. On the
>>Web. On Radio (what little of it that remains free of Zionist "jewish" control- and that's very little). Slowly but surely more and more people are
>>waking up to the reality of Zionist control and conspiracy of the world's media , resources and markets.
>>
>>Their devious manipulation and world-wide control of the newsmedia and newspapers turning them into JEWSMEDIA and JEWSPAPERS.
>>
>>Their USURY ,and swindling of the world financial system Look at Wall Street for example Wall Street is a hornet's nest of scheming Jewish thieves and
>>criminals.In the 1980s four men nearly destroyed Wall Street,the four--Michael Milken, Ivan Boesky, Dennis Levine, and Martin Siegel--are Jews, and
>>they stole billions of dollars.Not to forget to mention George Soros and the other International Jewish Bankers who have raped Thailand , Malaysia ,
>>Britain , Indonesia by speculating on their currencies. Yet again we see the pattern emerging of the International Jew-Zionist rampant throughout the
>>world's Nations in search of profits and destroying whole Nations' economies in the process.
>>
>>
>>
>>ABU JIHAD ...The voice from the desert crying out for all to see the rising danger before it is too late.
>>
>>**************************************************
>>VISIT   Radio Islam     http://www.radioislam.org
>>**************************************************
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>TO ALL THE PEOPLES OF THE WORLD :
>>SATANIC ZIONISM IS THE ENEMY OF ALL THE WORLD'S PEOPLE
>>UNITE TO FREE YOURSELF FROM THE "jewish" ZIONIST SHACKLES AND CHAINS BINDING YOU !!!
>>FREE PALESTINE FROM ZIONIST OCCUPATION
>>NO MORE HOLOHOAX LIES
>>NO MORE JEWSMEDIA LIES. 
>>NO MORE JEWSMEDIA PERIOD.
>>NO MORE JEWSPAPERS HIDING THE PALESTINIAN HOLOCAUST.
>>NO MORE JEWSPAPERS PERIOD.
>>
>>
>>ABU JIHAD



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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:58:52 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 19:18:07 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>In article <35d8e619.638387@news.nucleus.com>,  klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>> Do you not feel that even these filthy rich Jews should pay their
>>> taxes, as do other honest people??
>
>>> Why should these rich Jews not have to pay their taxes, becuase they
>>> are Jews??
>
>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:02:23 GMT, sibernot@bigfoot.com (E. Barry
>Bruyea) wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:59:28 -0600, "Barry S. Marjanovich"
>> wrote:
>
>>>The Calgary Herald
>>>July 9, 1998
>
>>>A Revenue Canada decision to let a family move more than $2 billion out of
>>>Canada tax free was fundamentally wrong and threatens to corrupt public
>>>trust in the system, a Federal Court judge heard Wednesday.
>
>>>"Revenue Canada had a legal duty to apply the tax," lawyer Arne Peltz told
>>>Justice Francis Muldoon.
>
>>>"It was not only an oops, they missed the boat altogether," Peltz said.
>
>>>"They screwed it up."
>
>>>Peltz is representing George Harris, a 53-year-old office manager who took
>>>on the federal tax collectors after he found out in 1996 that the family
>>>was allowed to transfer assets of a $2.2-billion trust to the United
>>>States without paying taxes.
>
>>>The family members haven't been named under confidentiality rules, but
>>>published reports have identified them as the Bronfmans [the richest
>>>family in Canada] who control the Montreal-based Seagram Co. distilling
>>>and entertainment empire.
>
>>>Throughout the controversy, there has never been any suggestion the family
>>>tried to evade tax.
>
>>>Harris is appealing a Federal Court decision last year saying he didn't
>>>have the right to question the Revenue Canada decision because he doesn't
>>>have a personal stake in the matter.
>
>>>But Harris has argued the matter is one of simple fairness for all.
>
>>>He said all taxpayers suffer when Revenue Canada fails to collect taxes,
>>>estimated at $700 million in this case.
>
>>>Peltz argued Wednesday there should be a process to review such decisions,
>>>adding a similar transfer-trust case in 1985 involving a different party
>>>required tax to be paid.
>
>>>ccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
>
>> one wonders
>>what his purpose was in posting the above, as it is very old news 
>
>
>How can you lie that it is old news, when the case is presently before
>a PUBLIC COURT in Canada??
>
>Even the news report is last week's news, not last year, idiot!!!
>
>Do you not feel that even these filthy rich Jews should pay their
>taxes, as do other honest people??
>
>Why should these rich Jews not have to pay their taxes, becuase they
>are Jews??



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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:54:42 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>>And never forget that the KGB was established by the cursed Polish JEW
>>DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>
>>Never forget that the KATYN murders were by the JEW-led Soviet KGB!!!
>>
>>
>>And don't forget the murders of the UN troops in Lebanon by the JEWS;
>>
>>And don't  forget the genocide of the unarmed civilians at the Q'ana
>>refugee camp by the damn Israelis.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:17:05 -0700, Clancy
>> wrote:
>>
>>>someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>> 
>>>> And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>>> Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>>> gangster!!!
>>
>>
>>>Zionist  terrorist acts from 1939-1996 - part I
>>
>>>1939 
>>>Haganah blew up the Iraqi oil pipeline near Haifa palestine. Moshe Dayan was one of 
>>>the participant in this act. The technique was used again in 1947 at least 4 times.
>>
>>>August 20, 1937-June 29, 1939
>>>During this period, Zionist carrtied out a series of attacks against Arab buses, 
>>>resulting in the seath of 24 persons and wonding 25 others. They are the Master of 
>>>killing people on buses.
>>
>>>Nov.25, 1940
>>>S.S. Patria blown up by Jewish Terrorists in Haifa Harbor, Killing 268 illegal Jewish 
>>>immigrants.
>>
>>>Nov. 6 1944
>>>Zionist Terrorist of Stern gang* assassinated the British Minister Resident in the 
>>>Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
>>
>>>July 22, 1946
>>>Zionist Terrorist blew up the King david Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central 
>>>offices of the civilian administarion of the Governemnt of Palestine, Killing and 
>>>injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun gangs claimed responsibility for this 
>>>criminal act, but subsequentevidence indicated that boith the Haganah and the Jewish 
>>>Agency were involved.
>>
>>>October 1, 1946
>>>The british Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by a bomb explosions, for which Irgun 
>>>cliam responsibility.
>>
>>>June 1947
>>>Letters sent to British Cabnit Minister were found to contain Bombs.
>>
>>>September 3, 1947
>>>A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting 
>>>room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs.( The  
>>>Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8
>>
>>>December 11, 1947
>>>Six Arabs were kiled and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab 
>>>buses in haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and anothers injured in an attack by armed 
>>>Zionist on Arab coastal village near Haifa.
>>
>>>Dec. 13 1947
>>>Zionist terrorist believed to be memeber of Irgun Zvia Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and 
>>>wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda Area. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown 
>>>in an Arab market-place near Damascus Gate; in Jaffa bombs were thrown into an Arab 
>>>cafe; in the Arab village of Al Yahudia near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack 
>>>with mortars and automatic weapons.
>>
>>>Dec. 19, 1947
>>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the 
>>>ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah 
>>>admitted responsibility for the attack.
>>
>>>Dec. 29, 1947
>>>Two British contables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus 
>>>Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun Jews threw a bomb from a taxi.
>>
>>>Dec. 30, 1947
>>>A mixed forces of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village 
>>>of Ballad al Shaikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.
>>
>>>1947-1948
>>>Over 700,000 Plaestine Arabs were uprooted from their beloved homes and land in 
>>>Palestine; since than have been denied the right to return or been given compensation 
>>>for their property. After their expolsion, the "Zionist Israel terrorist Armies" 
>>>razed to the ground 385 Arabs villages ad towns out of a total of 475, ands 
>>>oblitrated their remains. These Are "The GOD Chosen People" who commit murder in the 
>>>name of Judiasm.
>>
>>>January 1, 1948
>>>Haganah terrorists attacked attacked a village on the slop of mount Camel; 17 Arabs 
>>>were killed and 33 were wounded.
>>
>>>January 4, 1948
>>>Haganah terrorist wearing British Army Uniform penetrated into the center of Jaffa 
>>>and blew up the Serai(the old Turkish Governemnt House) which was used as a 
>>>headqaurter of the Arab national Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 
>>>98 others.
>>
>>>January 5, 1948 
>>>The Arab-owned semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blowm up, killing 20 persons, among 
>>>them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this 
>>>outrage.
>>
>>>January 7, 1948
>>>seventeen Arabs were kjilled by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them 
>>>while trying to escape. further casualties, including the murder of a British officer 
>>>near Hebron, were reported from different part of the country.
>>
>>>Jan. 16, 1948
>>>Zionists blew up three Arabs building. in the first, 8 children between the ages of 
>>>18 month and 12 years, died.
>>
>>>Dec. 13, 1947- February 10, 1948
>>>seven incident of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilian in cafe and markets, killing 
>>>138 and wounding 271 others. during this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. 
>>>Zionist mind passenger trains on at least 4 occasions killing 93 persons and wounding 
>>>161 others.
>>
>>>Feb. 15 1948
>>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, 
>>>killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
>>
>>>March 3, 1948
>>>Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa(a 7 story block of 
>>>flat and shops) by zionist who drove an army lorry uo to the building and escaped 
>>>before the detonation of 400 lb. of explosive; casualties numbered 11 Arabs ans 3 
>>>Armanians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Jewish Gang claimed responsibility of the 
>>>crime.
>>
>>>March 22, 1948
>>>A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 
>>>others. Four memeber of the Stern Jewish Gang drove two lorry-loaded of explosive 
>>>into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosive.
>>
>>>March 31, 1948
>>>The Cairo_Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month by an 
>>>electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 
>>>others.
>>
>>>April 9, 1948
>>>A combined forces of Irgun Zvai Leumi and ther Stern Jewish Gang, supported by the 
>>>Palmach forces captured the Arab village of Deir Yassine and killed than 200 unarmed 
>>>civilians, including countless women and childern. Older men and young women were and 
>>>paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were than 
>>>shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
>>
>>>April 16, 1948
>>>Zionist attacked the former British army camp at tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs 
>>>there.
>>
>>>April 19 1948
>>>Fourteen arabs were killed in a hous in Tiberias which was blown up by Zionist 
>>>terrorist Jews.
>>
>>>May 11, 1948
>>>A letter Bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Baker, former commanding Officer in Plaestine, 
>>>was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
>>
>>>April 25, 1948- may 13, 1948
>>>Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and 
>>>Haganah Terrorist Jews. They stripped and carried away everything they could, 
>>>destroying what they could not take with them.
>>
>>>Sept. 17 1948
>>>Count Folk Bernadotte, UN Mediator in Palestine was assassinated by memeber of the 
>>>Stern Jewish Gang in the Zionist controlled sector of Jerusalem. Bernadotte's aide 
>>>Col. serot was also killed and murdered by Jewish terrorist.
>>
>>>Nov. 1948
>>>The Arab village of Iqrit and Birim were attacked and destroyed, killing and injuring 
>>>countless unarmed Arabs, including women and children. All the Arabs were forcibly 
>>>expelled from their homes and mother land Palestine, Know today as the artificial 
>>>state of zionist Israel.
>>
>>On 14 Apr 1998 17:11:47 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>>
>>>In article , "peter" 
>>>writes:
>>
>>>>>Even the JEW media in the US have repeatedly documented the camps
>>>>>where the cursed JEWs are imprisoning many thousands of innocent
>>>>>Palestinians, both within Israel, and also in occupied Lebanon!!!
>>>>>Don't you even believe the JEWISH media??/
>>
>>>The only ones cursed are you Polish Catholics and that is for the Muder of
>>>Jesus the Christ which your ancesstors did 2000 years ago,
>>>It was a Polish Mercinary in the Roman Army who drove the nails into his arms.
>>>For that all poles are doomed and cursed to forever be the butt of Polish Jokes
>>>and to suffer terminal stupidity.
>>
>>>Forever another  stain on Poland and the Polish people.
>>>And you are damn right.
>>>Ask a Jew from Poland what he is and he will say " A Jew " and not a Pollack.
>>>My farther would never tell any one he was from POland, It is a thing to be
>>>ashamed of and few want to admit it.
>>
>>
>>No wonder honest people of Poland dislike the foul JEWS!!!
>>



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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:46:19 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>Subject: Der ewige Jude [The Eternal Jew]
>
>The Film of a 2000-Year Rat Migration
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>The Eternal Jew is the first film that not only gives a full picture
>of Jewry, but provides a broad treatment of the life and effects of
>this parasitic race using genuine material taken from real life. It
>also shows why healthy peoples in every age have responded to the Jews
>with disgust and loathing, often enough expressing their feelings
>though deeds.
>
>Just like rats, the Jews 2000 years ago moved from the Middle East, to
>Egypt, at that time a flourishing land. Even then they had all the
>criminal traits they display today, even then they were the enemy of
>hard-working, creative peoples. In large hordes they migrated from
>there to the "Promised Land," flooded the entire Mediterranean region,
>broke into Spain, France and Southern Germany, then followed the
>German colonists as they moved into the
>countries of the East. Along they way they remained eternal parasites,
>haggling and cheating, Poland above all became the enormous reservoir
>from which Jewry sent its agents to every leading nation of Europe and
>the world.
>
>The self-portrait Jewry offered the world was disgusting from the
>beginning. All that is overshadowed by the powerful examples of this
>new and most valuable film, The Eternal Jew. This film with its
>persuasive power must be shown everywhere where anti-Semitism is still
>questioned. No one will will fail to shudder at the sneaking servility
>and dirty bartering of the Jews when they start out, at the perfidy,
>insidiousness and vulgarity of their methods, at the brutality and
>all-devouring hatred they exhibit when they
>reach their goal and control finance.
>
>The most revolting scenes show Jewish slaughtering methods. These
>customs, which cast a particularly vivid spotlight on the so-called
>Jewish religion, are so terrible that it is hard to watch the film as
>the grinning Jewish butchers carry out their work. It is illuminating
>to see how stubbornly Jewry holds to its method of slaughter and with
>which casuistry it defends it against the horror of the civilized
>world. Rarely will people feel more horror than which watching the
>desperate and horrible death struggle of the
>slaughtered animals. Long before the seizure of power, the NSDAP
>fought against Jewish slaughter. National Socialist representatives in
>parliament repeatedly introduced legislation to abolish this form of
>animal torture through a ban on Jewish slaughter. Such proposals were
>always rejected, since the entire Jewish and Jewish-influenced press
>ran long articles against them and the so-called German parties
>refused to support National Socialism in its battle against this evil.
>
>Not only in this regard, but in other areas too we are reminded with a
>shudder of what once was reality in Germany: the power of the Jews in
>the economy, finance, culture, theater, film, publishing, press,
>radio, education and politics. All these Jewish leaders of the Weimar
>era had their home or their origin in the filthy ghettos of the East.
>
>
>One has a deep sense of salvation after seeing this film. We have
>broken their power over us. We are the initiators of the fight against
>world Jewry, which now directs its hate, its brutal greed and
>destructive will toward us. We must win this battle for ourselves, for
>Europe, for the world. This film will be a valuable tool in that
>struggle.



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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:42:04 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On 20 Oct 1998 14:46:50 GMT, "firefly" 
>wrote:
>
>>THE CROSS IS NOBODY BUSSINESS< IT IS ON  POLAND LAND
>>POLAND HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT WHAT THEY WANT  INSIDE
>>IN THEIR COUNTRY.THIS IS INTERNAL AFFAIR   < IT IS NOT AOUR
>>AFFAIR.COMPRENDE!!!!
>
>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>>
>>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>>By Sean Maguire
>>>Sept. 14, 1998
>>
>>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>>
>>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>>sensitive site. 
>>
>>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>>groups. 
>>
>>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>>
>>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>>site inevitable. 
>>
>>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>>
>>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>>
>>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>>
>>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>>
>>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>>
>>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>>and nationalists. 
>>
>>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>>forgotten. 
>>
>>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>>be removed. 
>>>
>>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>>
>>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>>
>>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>>the moment.'' 
>>
>>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>>
>>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>>
>>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>>international funding, are on hold. 
>>
>>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>>
>>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>>
>>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>>
>>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>>
>>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>>
>>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>>
>>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>>
>>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>>Jewish community.
>



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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:46 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org
>>>
>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>>	
>>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>
>>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>>
>>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>Archives:         
>>        
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>>         
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>>
>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>>       
>>         
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government."         
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>>
>>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>>
>>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>Gordon. 
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>were Jews. 
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>did not take kindly to it." 
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>>
>>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>4, 1919) 
>>	
>>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>himself:
>>
>>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>virtually untouched.
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>Communist bosses.
>> 
>>>Regards,
>>>Roger Hughes
>>
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People 
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>>                http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>     Roger's Page  http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>      Keep It White Because You Know It's Right!
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>-88-



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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:15:21 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:15:20 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:03:43 GMT, asumat@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>
>>>ARE THE ROTHSCHILD BEHIND THE CONSPIRACY?
>>>By: Efraim Menashe
>>>
>>>
>>>Jerusalem, Israel--It isn't easy being a conspiracy researcher- let
>>>alone a Jewish conspiracy researcher- when so many Jews are involved
>>>in political intrigue and world domination. This is a fact any
>>>objective thinker must conclude- whether the researcher is a Jew or
>>>not. As a Jew, the decision is harder to accept.
>>>
>>>But I guess I am an objective thinker before I am a Jew, and for that
>>>reason I am prepared to publicly admit to all who are reading that
>>>indeed, there is a conspiracy to control and dominate the world, and
>>>that many, many Jews play, and have played a role, in that conspiracy.
>>>For this is not speculation, it is fact. The names are well known to
>>>all:  Rothschild, Warburg, George Soros, Henry Kissinger, the
>>>Bronfmans, Jacob Shiff, Bernard Baruch, Judah Benjamin, etc. However,
>>>one must remember that included in the conspiracy are also the
>>>Rockefellers, J.P. Morgan, Cecil Rhodes, the British Royal Family, the
>>>Vatican, the French and Italian members of the "NWO planning
>>>committee." Most of the players in the NWO arena are not Jews, if all
>>>the members are included.
>>>
>>>The problem is that for some reason only the Rothschilds are
>>>associated with being behind the creation of "the Illuminati." All the
>>>conspiracy literature points the sole finger at this family for
>>>creating the Illuminati and causing revolutions in France, Russia, the
>>>US, the murder of Lincoln, the creation of the Federal Reserve, the
>>>crash of l929, the Bank of England, two World Wars: in fact,
>>>everything that supposedly happens in the NWO is carried out via
>>>"agents of Rothschild." It is quite amazing how every conspiracy
>>>researcher whether it is Tex Marrs, David Icke, Guradas, Ralph
>>>Epperson, Eustice Mullins, John Coleman, it doesn't matter from which
>>>perspective they came to understand the grand conspiracy, they all
>>>agree on one thing that is that the "Rothschilds who are behind
>>>everything."
>>>
>>>The Schiffs, the Warburgs, Bernard Baruch, are said to be "agents of
>>>Rothschilds" but this may only mean that no other higher chain of
>>>command has been identified. None of these so-called agents ever
>>>admitted to being an agent, nor do we really know if they were. The
>>>way the conspiracy is described in the revisionist view of history, it
>>>is just assumed that they are, as it is assumed that the Rothschilds
>>>are behind the creation of the Illuminati. I have yet to see any proof
>>>that this is the case. I am not suggesting that the Rothschilds are
>>>not players in the NWO, only that they are far from being the only
>>>ones and it has never been shown by any conspiracy researcher that
>>>they are indeed, "Chairmen of the Board."
>>>
>>>It is possible that the Rothschilds agreed to have all the blame
>>>placed on them so there would be an outlet for those observant people
>>>who discovered the conspiracy. The family appears to have accepted
>>>that they would be blamed for the conspiracy and this would cause an
>>>increase in anti-semitism. The Rothschilds may have gone along with
>>>this in order to gain more power in the circle of powerbrokers.
>>>
>>>It doesn't seem to occur to the the Rothschilds' accusers that the
>>>likelihood of so much power being accumulated by one family is
>>>infinitely remote. What is never asked is "What was so special about
>>>the policies of the Rothschilds?"  So they lent money to kings.
>>>Couldn't other rich people do that? How come no king ever tried to
>>>kill one of them to get rid of his debt? There is no recorded event
>>>anywhere of any type of opposition to Rothschilds' evil practices. Why
>>>not? the Knights Templer made enemies and were defeated by their
>>>enemies. How come the Rothschilds had no enemies who took revenge?
>>>How is it possible that a family dynasty can attain such power and
>>>wealth and yet have no enemies?
>>>
>>>Another question which needs to be answered is: "Did the Rothschilds
>>>run the Illuminati on their own?" Did they alone create all the
>>>intrigue and figure out all the plots and carry out the plans to cause
>>>the revolutions and wars?
>>>
>>>The running of the conspiracy is so complex, it defies all logic to
>>>suggest that it can be managed by just only one family. They must have
>>>had promoters and advocates who were prepared to go along with them.
>>>Yet there isn't one recorded event of a rebellion by the people who
>>>were following them or any other powerbroker competing for the top
>>>spot. The so-called Rothschilds' agents, Schiff, Benjamin, Warburg,
>>>Baruch, all went along without any challenge Rothschilds' leadership.
>>>Why? Since when has such power entrenched in one family not met with
>>>opposition?
>>>
>>>If the conspiracy theory that the Rothschilds with the Illuminati
>>>created the French revolution is true, and that the War of 1812, the
>>>Civil War, murder of Abraham Lincoln, the Russian revolution, the
>>>Russian-Japan war were Rothschild inspired, how is it that hrough all
>>>of these years the family was able to keep themselves so completely
>>>hidden from the public and free of blame? Why are they so untouchable?
>>>Perhaps the near "supermen" status many conspiracy researchers give
>>>the Rothschilds needs to be reevaluated. It simply isn't possible for
>>>one family to be so powerful over a period of 200 years and for one
>>>family to control everything the way conspiracy researchers present
>>>it.
>>>
>>>I am prepared to buy that the Rothschilds from their beginnings are
>>>one of the world's lowest form of lifes and responsible for the death
>>>of hundreds of millions of people, Jews included. They may even be a
>>>devil worshipers.  The entire family is a shame to the Jewish people.
>>>They have no love for the Jewish people and they have caused much
>>>hardship for their brethren.  So they are criminals but they are just
>>>one powerful family out of many.  Why are they being singled out as
>>>sitting on top of the heap? Who are all the others that we don't hear
>>>about?
>>>
>>>How could one family have become so powerful that even the Kings of
>>>Europe they were lending money to never tried to eliminate the debt by
>>>eliminating the moneylender? Certainly these heads of state had the
>>>means, militarily and in other ways, to handle the Rothschilds in
>>>order not to have to repay debts. However no proof exists anywhere to
>>>prove that the Rothschilds were behind the creation of the Illuminati.
>>>
>>>My point is that they may have been involved in the affair, but they
>>>aren't the sole architects of the conspiracy.
>>>
>>>Fellow conspiracy researchers: there is no Jewish conspiracy. There
>>>are plenty of Jews wrapped up in the quest for a NWO, but to ascribe
>>>the entire agenda to a small group of Jews, is plainly wrong. The
>>>anti-Semites like to point out "how powerful the Jews are", but are
>>>the Jews as a people so powerful or is a tiny group of Jews dominating
>>>the power?
>>>
>>>Are these Jews really the ones in charge of the entire agenda to
>>>enslave the world? Hardly. The notion that there is a cabal of Jews
>>>who sit together once a year and decide how to control the world, and
>>>they do this on behalf of some Jewish entity, or Israel, is what we
>>>are asked to believe. If such a cabal exists, and the anti-Semites say
>>>it has existed for centuries, then where is one recorded historical
>>>event of a group of Jews assembling to plan their control over the
>>>world? There is no proof anywhere showing that The Protocols of Zion
>>>was describing a group of Jews intent on dominating the world so they,
>>>the Jews, would be kings. Indeed the protocols was probably an
>>>accurate description of a group of people bent on world domination.
>>>There may have been some Jews sitting at the table. I believe that. I
>>>just don't believe that the majority were Jews.  If not, then who are
>>>the others? Who sits at that table other than the selected Jewish
>>>powerbrokers?
>>>
>>>There are Jews involved in the conspiracy to subject the world to a
>>>one-world government, no question of that, yet none of them are
>>>representing any Jews other than themselves. We know the Jewish masses
>>>are wonderful, hardworking educated people. The select few who are
>>>rich and are powerbrokers are a disgrace and should be exposed. How
>>>Israel's leadership has been thoroughly compromised and corrupted by
>>>the international Jewish powerbrokers should also be exposed. Rich,
>>>powerful Jews abroad exploit Israel for the gain of the people they
>>>work for. If these truths were exposed at least the issue would be
>>>confronted and the wound could, at least, start to heal.
>>>
>>>Unlike the majority of Jews, I have no reason to respect people like
>>>George Soros or Edgar Bronfman. They don't represent anyone other than
>>>other powerbrokers. I offer no guilt for these people. They are
>>>gangsters and like all other gangsters, they need to be punished. It
>>>smears the entire Jewish people for these people to claim they are
>>>"Jewish leaders."  I'm one Jew/Israeli who never voted for Bronfman
>>>and object to his involvement in Jewish affairs and Israeli diplomacy.
>>>Jews like Soros and Bronfman are a cancer in the body of the Jewish
>>>people and to the state of Israel. I'm all for exposing these
>>>criminals and letting them face justice. Perhaps that's the difference
>>>between me and the rest of my fellow Jews: I don't care if we "wash
>>>our dirty laundry in front of the goyim," we need to wash our dirty
>>>laundry in front of ourselves.
>>>
>>>That, fellow conspiracy researchers, is where I end my apologies. I
>>>don't believe there is a Jewish conspiracy or ever was. What happened
>>>was that many rich and unscrupulous Jews throughout the past 300 years
>>>were prepared to take the blame for the conspiracy in exchange for
>>>power and influence. They believed that a little exploitation of your
>>>fellow Jews wasn't such a high price to pay if it meant personal
>>>advancement. Edgar Bronfman and George Soros were the Baruchs and
>>>Warburgs of a generation ago. Nothing changes in the conspiracy. Jews
>>>play in the game today as they did then. However I am not sure they
>>>are in charge today anymore than they were then.
>>>
>>>Let's not forget that the Vatican, the French, German, and Italian
>>>families, and the existing Monarchies in Europe, are still major
>>>sources of political and economic power in the world. The Jews are
>>>just one player in a game with many players. The only difference is
>>>that the Jews and Israel ARE in the news and identifiable.  Thus it's
>>>easy to point the finger at the Jews because they stand out due to
>>>their economic strength.  The others remain hidden behind thrones and
>>>Churches and a European tradition of secrecy. The Jews are featured in
>>>the mainstream media while everything the Vatican and the others do
>>>are held in secret so names are not recognizable.
>>>
>>>No fellow researchers, the Jews don't control the NWO. This conclusion
>>>may not be accepted by the Spotlight crowd who are looking for the
>>>simple answer and to them, it is just to blame the Jews for world
>>>domination.  This is what the non-Jewish NWO players have planned and
>>>executed as a cunning policy to keep their plan for a one-world
>>>government secret: When it is threatened with exposure, get a few
>>>stooges to "blame the Jews" then have a few other dupes point the
>>>finger at the stooges and scream "anti-Semite."
>>>
>>>While the Spotlight crowd may not be capable of realizing how they are
>>>being duped, I hope all other sincere conspiracy researchers begin to
>>>question their basic contention that "the Rothschilds are behind the
>>>conspiracy to dominate the world." While the Rothschilds may be
>>>members of the team, they are far from being a one-man show.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:38:49 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Aug 1998 01:12:18 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>Hoaxbustir wrote:
>>> 
>>> >Subject: Re: Hoaxbuster
>>> >From: John.Morris@x-nospam-x.UAlberta.CA (John Morris)
>>> >Date: 8/21/98 5:52 PM EST
>>> >Message-id: <35def9ca.2347952@news.srv.ualberta.ca>
>>> >
>>> >In <1998082119500100.PAA02464@ladder01.news.aol.com>, on 21 Aug 1998
>>> >19:50:00 GMT, hoaxbustin@aol.com (Hoaxbustin) wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>There's something strange in the holohood
>>> >>Who ya gonna call?--Hoaxbuster
>>> >
>>> >>They're telling lies, and that ain't so good
>>> >>Who ya gonna call--Hoaxbuster.
>>> >
>>> >Just for a change, do you think you could make this persona a little
>>> >less of a cry baby, Joe?
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> > John Morris                                
>>> 
>>> Naw, someone has to take this newsgroup seriously.
>>
>>
>>CRACKS IN THE HOLOCAUST MYTH
>>
>>
>>Having seen the success of the British propaganda about the Germans
>>using
>>the skins of dead babies as lamp shades in World War I [which the
>>British
>>later apologized for after the end of the war and admitted it was only
>>propaganda to get the troops to fight harder]. They conceived of the
>>"Six
>>Million Jew Lie" and spared no amount of expense to forward this program
>>[The Zionists even executed several thousand of the so-called lesser
>>Jews -
>>so as to further their diabolical plans after all what was a few
>>thousand
>>lesser Jews compared to the master plan of World Control!]. (Genocide
>>Charged: Perhaps the most stupid and cowardly people of all times are
>>the
>>Sephardic Jews. Charges made by the Israeli media and confirmed by a
>>former
>>Israeli immigration inspector that "hundreds, perhaps thousands" of the
>>children of Sephardic Jews were taken from their parents and never
>>returned. Sephardic Jews live in the Middle East and are thought to be
>>descended from Jewish inhabitants of Judea. However, the majority of the
>>Jews are Ashkenazi. History says that they are the descendants of the
>>Khazars, a people near the Caucus mountains who converted to Talmudic
>>Judaism in the eighth century. Children of Sephardic Jews from Yemen
>>were
>>subjected to a policy of the Israeli government in the '50s to the
>>present
>>like the charges made against the Nazis during WW II. The Tel Aviv daily
>>newspaper was told by the former inspector Ami Hovev that a "substantial
>>number" of these children were killed in medical experiments and buried
>>in
>>lime pits. "I know that (Israeli physicians in state hospitals)
>>conducted
>>experiments on living children, extracting phosphorus and bone marrow
>>from
>>the spinal chord." Hovev told Israeli TV. The parents were told that
>>immigration regulations required underage children from the East to be
>>hospitalized at entry. Families received "notification" that their child
>>had died in the hospital. Those kidnapped children who were not used for
>>medical experiments were given to European families to raise. The
>>revelation of this Israeli genocidal policy against Sephardic Jews has
>>electrified the press in the Middle East, but the news has been
>>completely
>>suppressed by the controlled media in the United States. (American
>>Information Newsletter, Box 44534, Boise, Idaho 83711, 4/96 Issue).
>>
>>     The Zionists who are always far sighted saw in it a chance to
>>accomplish two things:
>>
>>   (a) To destroy Nationalism by claiming that the Germans killed "Six
>>Million Jews" in an effort at exterminating them, and the Germans were
>>extremely nationalistic, then it must follow, that Nationalism must be
>>very
>>evil if millions of people can be murdered in its name! [In other words
>>do
>>not be too Patriotic because if you do you will have Six Million or more
>>Dead Jews. And if you don't believe it they will show you another
>>holocaust
>>movie, then another, then another until you do]. Do you see what I am
>>saying?
>>
>>   (b) Their claim to Palestine which came soon after the end of the War
>>has enabled them [the Jews] to replace God and the Lord Jesus Christ and
>>become the Chosen People: a triple counterfeit, to most of the Christian
>>World!
>>
>>     Thus it is clear for all to see if they will look with any honesty
>>at
>>all America fought World War II so that World Jewry could dominate the
>>Financial Money Markets of the world; Expose any existing opposition to
>>their designs for world conquest and destroy such opposition; destroy
>>Nationalism, Patriotism, in the major countries of the world.
>>
>>     Perhaps William Anderson in his Afterword in a book "WAR WAR WAR!"
>>by
>>Cincinnatus describes it best:
>>
>>        How The Jews Forced America
>>        Into World War II
>>
>>     In the years before World War II, the American public had no desire
>>to
>>go to war in either Europe or Asia. We, as Americans, had no interest in
>>waring with Germany, Italy or Japan. Yet America was forced to battle
>>the
>>Axis Powers for four long years at the sole behest of International
>>Jewry.
>>In fact, World Jewry commenced its war against Germany in 1933, the year
>>Hitler came to power, even before he had time to begin implementing a
>>program for pulling Germany out of its own economic depression.
>>
>>     Jewry's declaration of a 'holy war' against Germany was issued by
>>Samuel Untermeyer of the World Jewish Federation, who said in the New
>>York
>>'Times' August 7, 1933, that it would be means of an 'economic boycott
>>that
>>will undermine the Hitler regime and bring the German people to their
>>senses by destroying their export trade on which their very existence
>>depends.'
>>
>>     The Toronto 'Evening Telegram' February 26, 1940, quotes Rabbi
>>Maurice
>>Perlzweig of the World Jewish Congress as telling a Canadian audience
>>that
>>'the World Jewish Congress has been at war with Germany for seven years'
>>[i.e. 1933].
>>
>>     Jews were obviously willing to back up their threats, for the
>>London
>>'Sunday Chronicle' of January 2, 1938, reported that 'leaders of
>>International Jewry' had met in Geneva, Switzerland to set up a $2.5
>>BILLION fund to undermine the economic stability of Germany.
>>
>>     However, Jewish boycotts against Germany failed to bring that
>>nation
>>to its knees as [because] Hitler had already freed Germany from
>>dependence
>>on Jewish usury.
>>
>>     Since economic pressure by World Jewry could not break the back of
>>Germany, it was determined that an actual war would be necessary to
>>destroy
>>Hitler [the German People for they had thrown off the control of the
>>International Banks].
>>
>>     This desire to decimate Germany is understandable when one
>>recognizes
>>that Jews are a parasitic race and as parasites will fight to the death
>>when the host attempts to expel them.
>>
>>     The Jewish desire for war was admitted by Rabbi Felix Mendelsohn in
>>the Chicago "Sentinel" of October 8, 1942, where he states:
>>
>>        "The second World War is being fought for the Defense of the
>>Fundamentals
>>of Judaism."
>>
>>      Thus, Rabbi Mendelsohn flatly expresses the view that WW II was a
>>Jewish war. This Jewish scheme came to fruitation in 1939, Germany
>>invaded
>>Poland. Britain and France, under Jewish domination, then declared war
>>on
>>Germany, conveniently ignoring the fact that The Soviet Union [under
>>Jewish
>>rule] also invaded Poland.
>>
>>     Think about it damn it - use your head - if England and France
>>declared war on Germany just because they invaded Poland then why did
>>they
>>not also declare war against Russia because Russia also invaded Poland
>>when
>>Germany did?
>>
>>     James Forestall, later to become Secretary of Defense in his diary
>>of
>>December 27, 1945, notes that he played golf with Joseph Kennedy FDR's
>>Ambassador to Britain, who told him that ex-Prime Minister Neville
>>Chamberlain 'stated that America and the world Jews had forced England
>>into
>>war.' For his candor and later opposition to the bandit state of Israel,
>>Forestall was murdered in 1949 [ruled a 'suicide']. Jews throughout the
>>world screamed that Germany was intent on ruling the world, but General
>>George C. Marshall admitted after the war, in testimony before Congress
>>[it
>>is recorded in the Congressional Record], that no proof could be found
>>that
>>Hitler planned any conquest of the world.
>>
>>     In fact, Hitler's actions against Czechoslovakia over the
>>Sudentenland
>>and Poland over Danzig were just part of Hitler's long stated desire to
>>re-acquire the territory taken from Germany after WW I in the Treaty of
>>Versailles [is that not what the Jews claim to be doing in Palestine at
>>the
>>present time?].
>>
>>     While stones are being cast, it should be recalled that after
>>Germany
>>took back the Sudentenland from Czechoslovakia, Poland seized the
>>territory
>>of Treschen from the Czechs which had no claims toward it. So, after the
>>Jews had ignited a war in Europe, it was found to be necessary to draw
>>America into that war as France had fallen and Britain tottered on the
>>brink of defeat.
>>
>>     To bring the U.S. into this Jewish war, International Jewry had the
>>services of a master at corrupt politics, the one and only Franklin
>>Delano
>>Roosevelt [Who will without doubt, someday go down as the greatest
>>traitor
>>America has ever known].
>>
>>
>>Ed



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:05:12 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>>>
>>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Clancy wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>>>> 
>>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>>>> 
>>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>>>> 
>>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>>> the murderer).
>>>> 
>>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>>> sentiment.
>>>> 
>>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
>>>> 
>>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>>>> 
>>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
>>>> 
>>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>>>> 
>>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>>>> 
>>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
>>>> 
>>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>>> Police.
>>>> 
>>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>>> peasants in Spain.
>>>> 
>>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>>>> 
>>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>>>> 
>>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
>>>> 
>>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>>> Meadow).
>>>> 
>>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>>> Julius Rosenwald.
>>>> 
>>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>>>> 
>>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
>>>> 
>>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
>>>> 
>>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>>> member of the Central Committee.
>>>> 
>>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
>>>> 
>>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
>>>> 
>>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
>>>> 
>>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
>>>> 
>>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
>>>> 
>>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
>>>> 
>>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
>>>> 
>>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>>> LEON KASMAN,
>>>> 
>>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
>>>> 
>>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
>>>> 
>>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>>> raised.
>>>> 
>>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
>>>> 
>>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
>>>> 
>>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
>>>> 
>>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>>> 1992).
>>>> 
>>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
>>>> 
>>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
>>>> 
>>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
>>>> 
>>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
>>>> 
>>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>>      world-wide social revolution."
>>>> 
>>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
>>>> 
>>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
>>>> 
>>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
>>>> 
>>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
>>>> 
>>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
>>>> 
>>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
>>>> 
>>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
>>>> 
>>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>>> 414 New York (1937):
>>>> 
>>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
>>>> 
>>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
>>>> 
>>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>>      Judaism."
>>>> 
>>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>>>> 
>>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>>>> 
>>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
>>>> 
>>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
>>>> 
>>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>>      executioners."
>>>> 
>>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
>>>> 
>>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
>>>> 
>>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>>> Jewesses.
>>>> 
>>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
>>>> 
>>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>>> people."
>>>> 
>>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
>>>> 
>>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
>>>> 
>>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
>>>> 
>>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
>>>> 
>>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
>>>> 
>>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>>>> 
>>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>>> government-funded."
>>>> 
>>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
>>>> 
>>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>>>> 
>>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).



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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:13:18 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:30:14 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:08:03 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>From swoj@no6million.com Sat Sep 13 17:14:03 1997
>>>
>>>Subject: [Fwd: 66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust]
>>>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:14:03 -0500
>>>
>>>Laura is my kind of gal... she has many a valid point in the following
>>>post.  In fact, 66 valid points.  Don't know why she
>>>didn't post this to alt.revisionism, so I will do the honors..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Sixty-six Questions and Answers on the Holocaust
>>>------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews? 
>>>
>>>None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual 
>>>"survivors." This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have 
>>>actually witnessed any "gassing." There are no contemporaneous documents 
>>>or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of 
>>>disposing of millions of corpses, no "human soap," no lamp shades made 
>>>of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics. 
>>>
>>>2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the 
>>>Nazis? 
>>>
>>>Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence 
>>>demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated 
>>>"six million" figure is an irresponsible exaggeration. 
>>>
>>>3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that "there were no 
>>>extermination camps on German soil"? 
>>>
>>>Yes. The famous "Nazi hunter" wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24, 
>>>1993. He also claimed that "gassings" of Jews took place only in Poland. 
>>>
>>>4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an 
>>>extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an 
>>>extermination camp? 
>>>
>>>After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through 
>>>the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a "gas chamber." The 
>>>mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a 
>>>"gassing" camp. 
>>>
>>>5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used 
>>>to kill people there? 
>>>
>>>No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified after the war, and 
>>>a room was reconstructed to look like a large "gas chamber." After 
>>>America's leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred 
>>>Leuchter, examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities, 
>>>he stated that it was an "absurdity" to claim that they were, or could 
>>>have been, used for executions. 
>>>
>>>6. If Auschwitz wasn't a "death camp," what was its true purpose? 
>>>It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing 
>>>complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as 
>>>a workforce. 
>>>
>>>7. Who set up the first concentration camps? 
>>>During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called 
>>>"concentration camps" in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and 
>>>children. Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as 
>>>terrible as German concentration camps of World War II. 
>>>
>>>8. How did German concentration camps differ from American "relocation" 
>>>camps in which Japanese-Americans were interned during WWII? 
>>>
>>>The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons on 
>>>the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war 
>>>effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the 
>>>basis of race alone. 
>>>
>>>9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps? 
>>>
>>>It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were 
>>>overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all 
>>>suspected security risks -- not just Jews -- were in danger of 
>>>internment. 
>>>
>>>10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as 
>>>early as 1933? 
>>>
>>>In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an 
>>>international boycott of German goods. 
>>>
>>>11. Did the Jews of the world "declare war on Germany"? 
>>>
>>>Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in 
>>>the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced "Judea 
>>>Declares War on Germany." 
>>>
>>>12. Was this before or after the "death camp" stories began? 
>>>
>>>This was years before the "death camp" stories, which began in 
>>>1941-1942. 
>>>
>>>13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass 
>>>civilian bombing? 
>>>
>>>Britain -- on May 11, 1940. 
>>>
>>>14. How many "gas chambers" to kill people were there at Auschwitz? 
>>>None. 
>>>
>>>15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German 
>>>control during the war? 
>>>
>>>Fewer than six million. 
>>>
>>>16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what 
>>>happened to them? 
>>>
>>>After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of 
>>>thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all 
>>>causes during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United 
>>>States, and other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war. 
>>>
>>>17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet 
>>>Union? 
>>>
>>>More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in 
>>>1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control. 
>>>
>>>18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting 
>>>them outside of German reach? 
>>>
>>>Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR). 
>>>
>>>19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant, 
>>>Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was? 
>>>
>>>He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators 
>>>later admitted. 
>>>
>>>20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to 
>>>torture German prisoners in order to exact "confessions" for use at the 
>>>trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere? 
>>>
>>>Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent "evidence" for 
>>>the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar "war crimes" trials. 
>>>
>>>21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today? 
>>>
>>>It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular 
>>>religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders. 
>>>It is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to 
>>>justify US aid to Israel. 
>>>
>>>22. How does it benefit the State of Israel? 
>>>
>>>It justifies the billions of dollars in "reparations" Germany has paid 
>>>to Israel and many individual "survivors." It is used by the 
>>>Zionist/Israeli lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in 
>>>the Middle East, and to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling 
>>>billions of dollars per year. 
>>>
>>>23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen? 
>>>
>>>The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of Jews 
>>>as a holy and eternally persecuted "Chosen People." 
>>>
>>>24. How did it benefit the Communists? 
>>>
>>>It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before, 
>>>during and after the Second World War. 
>>>
>>>25. How does it benefit Britain? 
>>>
>>>In much the same way it benefitted the Soviet Union. 
>>>
>>>26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of 
>>>Jews? 
>>>
>>>No. 
>>>
>>>27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps? 
>>>Hydrocyanic gas from "Zyklon B," a commercial pesticide that was widely 
>>>used throughout Europe. 
>>>
>>>28. For what purpose was "Zyklon B" manufactured? 
>>>
>>>It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill 
>>>typhus-bearing lice and other pests. 
>>>
>>>29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination? 
>>>
>>>No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people, 
>>>far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting 
>>>fumigation agent. 
>>>
>>>30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with 
>>>Zyklon B? 
>>>
>>>Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and 
>>>dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are 
>>>employed. 
>>>
>>>31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the "gas 
>>>chambers" to remove bodies ten minutes after the victims had died. How 
>>>do you explain this? 
>>>
>>>It can't be explained because had they done so they would have suffered 
>>>the same fate as the "gassing" victims. 
>>>
>>>32. Hoess said in his "confession" that his men would smoke cigarettes 
>>>as they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing. 
>>>Isn't Zyklon B explosive? 
>>>
>>>Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false. 
>>>
>>>33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate 
>>>Jews? 
>>>
>>>The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from a 
>>>hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to "steam 
>>>chambers," to "electrocution" machinery. Millions are alleged to have 
>>>been killed in these ways. 
>>>
>>>34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from 
>>>those who were scheduled to be killed? 
>>>
>>>It couldn't have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass 
>>>gassings. The extermination stories originated as wartime atrocity 
>>>propaganda. 
>>>
>>>35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why 
>>>did they go along with the Germans without resisting? 
>>>They didn't fight back because they did not believe there was any 
>>>intention to kill them. 
>>>
>>>36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps? 
>>>
>>>Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000. 
>>>
>>>37. How did they die? 
>>>
>>>Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe 
>>>during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention 
>>>during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and 
>>>rail transportation had been bombed out by the Allies.
>>> 
>>>38. What is typhus? 
>>>
>>>This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under 
>>>unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and 
>>>clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews 
>>>might have survived the camps. 
>>>
>>>39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during 
>>>the Second World War? 
>>>
>>>5,700,000. 
>>>
>>>40. Some Jewish "death camp" survivors say they saw bodies being dumped 
>>>into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this? 
>>>A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a 
>>>substantial fuel shortage during the war. 
>>>
>>>41. Can bodies be burned in pits? 
>>>
>>>No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames 
>>>in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
>>> 
>>>42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate 
>>>bodies in about ten minutes. How long does it take to incinerate one 
>>>body, according to professional crematory operators? 
>>>
>>>About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further 
>>>processing afterwards. 
>>>
>>>43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens? 
>>>To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had 
>>>died. 
>>>
>>>44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the 
>>>camps in German-controlled territory, what is the maximum number of 
>>>corpses it would have been possible to incinerate during the entire 
>>>period such crematories were in operation? 
>>>
>>>About 430,600. 
>>>
>>>45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time? 
>>>No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per day). 
>>>Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in 
>>>heavy operation. 
>>>
>>>46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse? 
>>>
>>>After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full. 
>>>
>>>47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what 
>>>happened to the ashes? 
>>>
>>>That remains to be "explained." Six million bodies would have produced 
>>>many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash 
>>>depositories. 
>>>
>>>48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken 
>>>during the period when the "gas chambers" and crematoria were supposedly 
>>>in full operation) show evidence of extermination? 
>>>
>>>No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the 
>>>enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp, 
>>>nor do they show evidence of the "open pits" in which bodies were 
>>>allegedly burned. 
>>>
>>>49. What was the main provision of the German "Nuremberg Laws" of 1935? 
>>>
>>>They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews, 
>>>similar to laws existing in Israel today. 
>>>
>>>50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws? 
>>>
>>>Years before Hitler's Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted 
>>>laws prohibiting marriage between persons of different races. 
>>>
>>>51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to 
>>>the "Holocaust" question? 
>>>
>>>An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in 
>>>September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive 
>>>packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. 
>>>
>>>52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews 
>>>were allegedly being exterminated? 
>>>
>>>If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most 
>>>certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there 
>>>was none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn't. 
>>>
>>>53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish 
>>>extermination program? 
>>>
>>>None. 
>>>
>>>54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate? 
>>>
>>>As early as 1933, Hitler's government signed an agreement with the 
>>>Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate from Germany to Palestine, taking 
>>>large amounts of capital with them. 
>>>
>>>55. How did Anne Frank die?
>>> 
>>>After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the 
>>>Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. The was 
>>>not gassed. 
>>>
>>>56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine? 
>>>
>>>No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes that 
>>>the famous diary is a literary hoax. 
>>>
>>>57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the 
>>>liberated German camps showing piles of emaciated corpses? Are these 
>>>faked? 
>>>
>>>Photographs can be faked, but it's far easier merely to add a misleading 
>>>caption to a photo or commentary to a piece of footage. Piles of 
>>>emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were "gassed" or 
>>>deliberately starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of 
>>>raging epidemics or of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps 
>>>toward the end of the war. 
>>>
>>>58. Who originated the term "genocide"? 
>>>
>>>Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944. 
>>>
>>>59. Are films such as "Schindler's List" or "The Winds of War" 
>>>documentaries? 
>>>
>>>No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history. 
>>>Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical 
>>>representations.
>>> 
>>>60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the 
>>>standard "Holocaust" story? 
>>>
>>>Dozens. More are in production.
>>> 
>>>61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered 
>>>$50,000 to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
>>> 
>>>No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was 
>>>sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who 
>>>claimed that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business 
>>>to suffer, and represented "injurious denial of established fact." 
>>>
>>>62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story 
>>>are merely anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi? 
>>>
>>>This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest 
>>>arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all 
>>>persuasions and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There 
>>>is no correlation between "Holocaust" refutation and anti-Semitism or
>>>"neo-Naziism".
>>>
>>>63. What has happened to "revisionist" historians who have challenged 
>>>the Holocaust story? 
>>>
>>>They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions, 
>>>loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence. 
>>>
>>>64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for 
>>>its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of speech and academic 
>>>freedom?
>>> 
>>>The IHR had been bombed three times, and was completely destroyed on 
>>>July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by 
>>>telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been 
>>>overwhelmingly hostile. 
>>>
>>>65. Why is there so little publicity for the revisionist view? 
>>>Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any 
>>>in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story. 
>>>
>>>66. Where can I get more information about the "other side" of the 
>>>Holocaust story, as well as facts concerning other aspects of World War 
>>>II historical revisionism? 
>>>
>>>The Institute for Historical Review, P.O. Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA 
>>>92659, carries a wide variety of books, cassette and video tapes on 
>>>significant historical subjects. 
>>>
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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:22 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:12 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>>
>>>Translated from Polish:
>>
>>>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.
>>
>>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>>
>>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>>Poland).
>>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>>big. 
>>
>>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>>again came back to Poland. 
>>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>>He should.....
>>
>>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>>



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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:39:08 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:53:01 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:36:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:47:27 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:48:22 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:
>>
>>>JEWISH JOKES
>>>
>>>How was copper wiring invented?
>>>Two Jews fighting over a penny!
>>>
>>>
>>>How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
>>>They put parking meters on the roof!
>>>
>>>
>>>Why is money green?
>>>Because Jews pick it before it's ripe!
>>>
>>>
>>>What candy did Hitler hate more then any other?
>>>Jew Jew Beans... Although I heard he enjoyed them "roasted!"
>>>
>>>
>>>If Tarzan and Jane were Jewish, what would Cheetah be?
>>>A fur coat!
>>>
>>>
>>>Why don't Jews eat pork?
>>>They may be a lot of things, but CANNIBALS they're not!
>>>
>>>
>>>Why aren't Jews attacked by sharks?
>>>Professional courtesy!
>>>
>>>
>>>Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
>>>Let one in, and he'll keep the rest out.
>>>
>>>
>>>What's the Jewish version of foreplay?
>>>Half an hour of begging.
>>>
>>>
>>>How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
>>>She's the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!
>>>
>>>
>>>Did you hear about the new tires, Firestein?
>>>They not only stop on a dime, they also pick it up!
>>>
>>>
>>>What's the difference between a circumcision and crucifixion?
>>>In a crucifixion, they throw the whole Jew out!
>>>
>>>
>>>Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
>>>Someone dropped a quarter!
>>>
>>>
>>>Why do Jews have such big noses?
>>>Because air is free.
>>>
>>>
>>>What did the Jewish mother ask her daughter when she learned she had
>>>an
>>>affair?
>>>Who catered it?
>>>
>>>
>>>What happens when a Jew with an erection walks into a wall?
>>>He breaks his nose.
>>>
>>>
>>>What's a Jewish dilemma?
>>>Free ham.
>>>
>>>
>>>What's the difference between a Jewish bitch and a barracuda?
>>>Nail polish.
>>>
>>>
>>>What's the difference between an elephant and a Jew?
>>>An elephant eventually forgets.
>>>
>>>
>>>A nigger was walking down the street, kicking some rubbish out of his
>>>way,
>>>when he spotted something amid the trash that gleamed
>>>strangely. It urned out to be an oddly shaped bottle, and when he
>>>rubbed it, a
>>>Jewish genie appeared. "I'll give you two wishes," quipped
>>>the genie. "Far out," said the black man. "First, I want to be white,
>>>uptight,
>>>and out of sight!" Second, I want to be surrounded by warm,
>>>sweet pussy. So the genie turned him into a TAMPON! The moral of this
>>>story:
>>>You can't get anything from a Jew without strings
>>>attached!
>>>
>>>
>>>How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
>>>Marry her!
>>>
>>>
>>>Why do jewish bitches only sleep with circumcised men?
>>>They want 20% off everything!
>>>
>>>
>>>What's the difference between between karate and judo?
>>>Karate is a form of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.
>>>
>>>
>>>Did you hear that the limbo was invented by the Jews?
>>>Yeah, from sneaking into pay toilets.
>>>
>>>
>>>What's the definition of a queer Jew?
>>>Someone that likes girls more then money.
>>>
>>>
>>>What do you call ten Jewish bitches in a basement?
>>>A WHINE cellar.
>>>
>>>
>>>Why did the Jewish mother have herself entombed at Bloomingdales?
>>>So her daughter would visit at least twice a week.
>>>
>>>
>>>What's the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
>>>A vulture waits until you're dead to eat your heart out!
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0700, "WaRR" 
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>what do you get when you cross a jewish women and an arab women??
>>>>oil of no lay!!
>>>>
>>>>=what is the difference between karate and judo?
>>>>karate is the art of self-defense, and judo is what bagels aremade of.
>>>>
>>>>=i knew a jewish woman once who thought the apostle's creed was
>>>>what fought rocky balboa.
>>>>
>>>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a toilet?
>>>>a toilet doesn't follow you around for 9 months after you use it.
>>>>
>>>>=did you hear that al italia and el al were merging to form a new airline?
>>>>it's called well i'll tell ya.=what do you call a jewish woman's waterbed?
>>>>the dead sea. second prize: lake placid.
>>>>
>>>>=how was copper wire invented?
>>>> by 2 jews fighting over a penny.
>>>>
>>>>=why are jewish men circumcised?
>>>> because jewish women won't buy anything unless it's 20% off.
>>>>
>>>>=what do you call an uncircumcised jewish baby?
>>>>a girl.
>>>>
>>>>=what do you get when you cross a jewish british princess & a computer?
>>>>a computer that never goes down on you.
>>>>=what's a jewish british princess' favorite wine?
>>>> i wanna go to palmsprings.
>>>>=how do you know a jewish british princess has an orgasm?
>>>>she drops her nail file.
>>>>
>>>>=what do you have when you get 3 jewish british princesses together
>>>>with 3 other women who have yeast infections?a whine and cheese party.
>>>>=how many jewish british princesses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>>>>two, one to get a diet coke and one to call daddy.
>>>>
>>>>=why do jewish girls like prostitution?
>>>>because they can sell it again and again and again.
>>>>
>>>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and jello?
>>>>jello moves when you eat it.
>>>>
>>>>=how does a jewish british princess do it doggie style?
>>>>she makes him beg for an hour.
>>>>
>>>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a catholic
>>>>british princess?
>>>>the catholic british princess has fake jewelry and real orgasms.
>>>>
>>>>=what's the difference between jews and canoes?
>>>>canoes tip.   ( THIS ONE FREAKS ME OUT :)))))
>>>>
>>>>=what's the difference between jews and pizzas?
>>>>pizzas don't scream when you put them in the oven.
>>>>
>>>>=what is a jewish dilemma?
>>>>free ham.
>>>>=what do you call a jewish piano?
>>>>a cash register.
>>>>=how many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
>>>>none. they are used to sitting in the dark.
>>>>=did you hear about the rabbi who did free circumcisions?
>>>>he only took tips.
>>>>=how many jews can you fit in a vw?
>>>>two in the front, two in the back, and ten thousand in the ash tray.
>>>>
>>>>=a priest, a baptist minister, and a rabbi were asked how they would
>>>>divide up some gold coins between themselves and god. the priest
>>>>replied, "i'd draw a line down the middle of the room, throw the
>>>>coins in the air, and whatever landed on one side goes to god,
>>>>the other to me." the minister replied, "i'd draw a circle in
>>>>the middle of the room, and whatever lands inside is for god,
>>>>outside for me." the rabbi's answer was, he wouldn't draw any
>>>>line, just throw the money in the air and whatever god caughthe could keep.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>=an italian, a jew, and a homosexual were walking down the street and
>>>>were hit by the same bolt of lightning. next thing they know they're
>>>>in front of st. peter begging for a second chance. "ok," he says,
>>>>"but on one condition: you must give up that which you love the most.
>>>>if you don't, you go straight to hell." after agreeing, they find
>>>>themselves back on the street and they start walking again. a few
>>>>blocks down they pass a pizza store. "i can't help myself!" says the
>>>>italian... he goes in, takes a bite of pizza, and poof!, he
>>>>disappears. so the jew and the homosexual continue walking
>>>>down the street. the jew sees a penny on the sidewalk. "i can't
>>>>help myself!" he says. he reaches for the penny and poof! the
>>>>homosexual disappears.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>yours truly
>>>>
>>>>WaRR
>>>>



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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 03:10:56 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com
>
>
>
>
>On 31 Oct 1998 16:30:03 GMT, Wlodzimierz Godlowski
> wrote:
>
>>igal_peacemaker@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>: ( Sory for long post. I=P)
>>
>>: First, let's think about ammount of the victims:
>>
>>: from: http://www.powerup.com.au/~dominion/ff/h15.htm
>>: “”Evidence found in  the pockets of  the victims --
>>: such  as diaries,  unsent letters  and  Soviet newspapers  -- and
>>: forensic tests  confirmed the  date.  In  all, 4,143  bodies were
>>: positively identified.””
>>
>>: So, pan RU8xx,pan Wlodzimierz Godlowski and pan Jerzy Pankiewicz
>>:  and others, we have proof ammount of the victims:
>>
>>: “”4,143 victims””
>>
>>: it is not 3000 as I wrote, but it is also not a 40 000 or 2 000 000 000
>>: as wrote some other readers.
>>
>>more then 10 000 was total number of killing from Kozielsk (only people
>>from that camp was killd in Katyn) Starobielsk and Ostaszkow (on the one 
>>decision of the soviet politbiuro.
>>2 000 000 not 2 000 000 000 it is total number of Polish Citizen Polish
>>and Judaic origin murder by Sowiet in conection with II WW.
>>You should know abut it.
>>: ========================
>>
>>: Now, we can go to discussion about political aspects.
>>: maybe another interesting fact, who found bodies of the victims:
>>
>>: <>: Katyn forests near Smolensk of  mass graves containing the bodies
>>: of  Polish  officers who  the  Germans  said were  killed  by the
>>: Soviets in the spring of 1940.>>
>>
>>Of course that Germans use it in his propaganda. They was not so stiupid
>>not do it.
>>
>>: Bodies were found by German special forces, then the  Polish
>>: government-in-exile  in  London  asked  the
>>: International Red  Cross to  investigate, the  Soviet Union broke
>>: diplomatic  relations  with  the   exiles  and  objected  to  any
>>: investigation.  Britain and the U.S.  took the Soviet side in the
>>: issue.
>>
>>: I think, that apperently happend because Lord Churchil and Mr. Rusvelt
>>:  were KGB/communists soviet jews.
>>????? Are you joking?
>>Churchil and Poosvelt was aliant of Stalin and do not want make him angry.
>>Thats enough
>>
>>
>>: Later, during the Nuremberg trial, the
>>: Soviets accused the  Germans of this  crime. But cold war began and
>>: On Dec. 22, 1952, the U.S. Congress, following an investigation by its Select
>>: Committee on the Katyn Forest Massacre, unanimously ruled that it
>>: was the Soviets who were guilty.
>>Not only U.S. Congres say that Katyn was done for Soviet. Also for example
>>International Medical Comision from non - participation country.
>>In Norymberga on the Soviet demand German was prosecute for Katyn but
>>Norymberga Court do not say that German was gilty for Katyn even Soviet
>>participated in the Court.
>>: Since  World  War  II  the  Katyn  massacre  slipped  into near-oblivion, 
>>: except in  Poland.  But  it  has resurfaced  as a result of  a joint 
>>: declaration by	Mikhail Gorbachev (great traitor of the USSR and west lackey
>>: only) and Polish leader  Gen.  Wojciech Jaruzelski  in	April 21,  1987.  The
>>: two agreed that ``blank  spots'' is Soviet-Polish  relations would be
>>: removed. 
>>
>>But Gorbahov was not agrre that Katyn was done by  Soviet. Even now a lot
>>of Soviet oficials not agree that Katyn was done by SDoviet
>>
>> Although the Soviets	committed many crimes against the Poles
>>: during and  after World War  II, Katyn remains	high on the agenda, and the
>>: joint  Soviet-Polish commission of historians has addressed it.  The  Polish
>>: side has  no doubt who	is guilty (who like former occupant), but the Soviets
>>: keep repeating the old claim to have ``no evidence to the contrary'' in their
>>: archives.  The issue remains deadlocked.  Meanwhile, the Katyn cemetery has
>>: been opened to the public -- and the  Germans are  still blamed  for the 
>>: crime (poor German Nazis - they never killed any one civilian or military
>>: unarmed Pols in WWII, hey Miecz - S³awomir and motherfacker Warr - am I wrong
>>: ? ).  However, the Soviets have  claimed about 500 Soviet POWs perished with 
>>: the Polish officers (but who is worry about it, Soviet loose Cold War and we
>>: do not belive them).
>>Nearly all my family was morder by Soviet (and a have documents that it
>>was done by Soviet) and I have a lot of friend like me. It is a lot of
>>documents that Soviet killed a lot of
>>Polish People.
>>
>> Since the end of the Second World War many facts and
>>: many legends have been built up surrounding the events or even "non-events"
>>: of that international conflict. Many stories which originated through the
>>: official and unofficial propaganda channels have become a part of the popular
>>: history of the war. From the time of the war itself, many of the propaganda
>>: claims which circulated widely were questioned by official sources. Since the
>>: late 1940's, revisionist historians have attempted to bring our official
>>: history into accord with the facts. I do not like Stalin regime, but in Katyn
>>: story last word was not wrote yet.
>>
>>It is lie like that "it was only fee Jeavs killed diurin holocaust.
>>In Poland You could be prosecute for it.
>>My Grand Father was murde in Katyn  and I am very interested in the
>>subject of Katyn.
>>
>>: Documents:
>>
>>: KATYN FOREST MASSACRE
>>
>>:       THE CLAIM:
>>: Nuremberg Document 054-USSR. Report by a Special
>>:  Soviet Commission, 24 January 1944, concerning the
>>:  shooting of Polish officer prisoners of war in the forest of
>>:  Katyn. The executions had been carried out in autumn 1941
>>:  by the German "Staff of the Construction Battalion 537". In
>>:  spring 1943 the Germans, by blackmailing witnesses into
>>:  giving false evidence and by other means, had tried to make
>>:  it appear that the Soviet NKVD was responsible for the
>>:  shooting of the 11,000 victims.
>>It is a lot of provement that it is lie (even documents Soviet Politbiuro-
>>used by Russian Supreme Court durin proces for delegalization of the
>>Comunist Pary  after Janayew take over. That documents was also publish in
>>Poland (and as I know in the west too).
>>
>>: (as I proofbefore only 4,143  bodies were found and all were
>>: positively identified. I=P)
>>
>>: THE REVISIONS:
>>
>>:  "This committee unanimously finds... that the Soviet NKVD
>>:  committed the mass murders of the Polish officers and
>>:  intellectual leaders in the Katyn Forest... there has not
>>:  been... even any remote circumstantial evidence presented
>>:  that could indict any other nation in this international crime.
>>:  It is an established fact that approximately 15,000 Polish
>>:  prisoners were interned in three Soviet camps: Kozielsk,
>>:  Starobielsk, and Ostashkov in the winter of 1939-40. With
>>:  the exception of 400 prisoners, these men have not been
>>:  heard from... since the spring of 1940...."
>>: ===
>>:  U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee to
>>:  Investigate the Facts, The Katyn Forest Massacre:
>>:  Final Report. Issued 22 December 1952.
>>
>>: ( I can belive that from Stalin camps “these men have not been
>>:    heard from... since the spring of 1940....", 20 000 000 000 were killed in
>>: GULAG, but not because they were Pols, Jews or Russin - no, because they were
>>: HUMANs and Stalin do not like HUMANs)
>>
>>According Mr Chruszczow Report Stalin was killed 60 000 000 milion of
>>people (including meny Jews) partialy becous he give represion agains
>>human but often becouse thay murder people becouse of nationality
>>(aspecialy 
>>Polish, Ukrainien, Czeczenien )
>>
>>: In all cases innocent victims are unforgetable, but we have to know what kind
>>: of games politics play. Now Poland like German and do not like Russian, what
>>: the time will be after 40 years???
>>
>>I like Rusian as people and have Russian friends (and Germent friends
>>also) but it is a different that even in that moment german vwas danger
>>for Poland. Morower Germen was mostly prosecuted for his criminals 
>>Russian not.
>>
>>: I=P
>>
>>: -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
>>: http://www.dejanews.com/       Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own    
>>Wlodzimierz Godlowski



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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:42:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>You will probably be branded a racist by the Jew Sol Littman and his
>band of terrorists!!!
>
>They do not want non-Jews like you to read their books, which detail
>THEIR RACIST POLICIES!!!
>
>
>On 22 Mar 1998 17:57:57 GMT, intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:
>
>>vark! (mjh@idigital.net) wrote:
>>: intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
>>
>>: > But who decides.  The flat earth people say it is hatred against their
>>: > beliefs for schools to teach that the world is round.
>>
>>: *We* are to say, the collective voice of our nation.  You know,
>>: 'Democracy'.  But congratulations for utterly trivializing a serious
>>: debate.
>>
>>Ok, read the following from the Jewish Talmud and ask yourself if it is
>>racism and promotes hatred.
>>
>>
>>
>>Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:56:42 -0800
>>From: Cool Canadian 
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>>Subject: Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud
>>
>>
>>
>>"The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud..." 
>>
>>            "Babylonian Talmud", published by the Boston Talmud Society,
>>p. XII
>>
>>The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish
>>peoples, as "Gentiles",
>>"Goyim". Let's see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the Jews concerning
>>the non-Jewish majority,
>>i.e. those who are not part of Jahve's "Chosen People": 
>>
>>"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They
>>are beasts." 
>>
>>Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b 
>>
>>"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor
>>the the dog more
>>than the non-Jew." 
>>
>>Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30 
>>
>>"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human
>>form. It is not
>>becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served
>>by animals in
>>human form." 
>>
>>Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855 
>>
>>"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." 
>>
>>Coschen hamischpat 405 
>>
>>"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs." 
>>
>>Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b 
>>
>>"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they
>>compare with the
>>Jew like a monkey to a human." 
>>
>>Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b 
>>
>>"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog." 
>>
>>Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b 
>>
>>"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not
>>express sympathy to
>>the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as
>>if one of his oxen or
>>asses had died"." 
>>
>>Jore dea 377, 1 
>>
>>"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between
>>animals." 
>>
>>Talmud Sanhedrin 74b 
>>
>>"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile." 
>>
>>Sepher ikkarim III c 25 
>>
>>"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians
>>belong to the denying
>>ones of the Torah." 
>>
>>Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5 
>>
>>"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." 
>>
>>Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b 
>>
>>"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the
>>same as making a
>>sacrifice to God." 
>>
>>Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772



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On Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:01:43 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:32:34 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:53:08 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>>>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>>>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>>>
>>>They haven't.
>>>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>>>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>>
>>>>David Maddison
>>>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>>
>>>Harold.
>-88-



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On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:30:50 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:15:01 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>Notice that supporters of the Christkillers can not answer the
>>questions, or respond to points, so they try ad hominem attacks.
>>
>>History has shown that far too many of the murderers of Christ, and
>>their followers, have been involved in one disaster after another, up
>>to and including communism...
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 05:45:30 -0400, alg3@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>>
>>>Ivan Petrenko wrote:
>>>
>>>> ATTENTION SUSAN COHEN:
>>>>
>>>> OK, so I am now reading so many of your posts that I think to myself-
>>>
>>>And you shoud've kept to yourself whatever you were thinking. Mark Twain had
>>>a good advice to the trolls like yourself: "It is better to keep quiet and
>>>look intelligent then open your mouth and remove all doubts." :)
>>>
>>>> etah zhenzchinah/this woman has incredible amount hate and anger, enough
>>>> hate in her to start war.
>>>
>>>Another well known tactic, the lame hatemongers like you are so fond of:
>>>"Substitute the lack of arguments with the character assassination"
>>>
>>>> If you don't relax and lighten up little bit, Susan Cohen, I afraid you
>>>> get high blood pressure. Really I think real problem is you can't find
>>>> man.
>>>
>>>Lame, lame...
>>>
>>>> Mozhet bit, maybe you is old maid woman who is very angry at whole
>>>> world.  You need consult with our wise advisor on this site- his name is
>>>> Panikovsky.  You look for his name on posts and read his website.  He
>>>> has help for women like you Susan.
>>>
>>>Did you use his help as well? :)
>>>
>>>> Who has time to write so many posts like you Susan?  Also on this day,
>>>> which is big day for Jews holiday - the Passover.  But you home alone
>>>> writing hate mail.  What sad life you have. But Panikovsky can help you.
>>>> There is hope for you to become happy nice woman someday. Then we
>>>> all not think of you as arrogant bitch.
>>>
>>>> I. Petrenko
>>>
>>>Crawl back into your hole, loser
>>
>>[File: C:\Program Files\Netscape\files\100MILLIONS.TXT]



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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:02:36 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:15:56 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:41:38 -0400, "Richard G. Philllips"
>> wrote:
>>>Scoop wrote:
>>>> Quoth Richard G. Philllips:
>>>> : Scoop wrote:
>>
>>>> : > Dick, since you are alleging that Jews have routinely engaged in ritual
>>>> : > murder throughout our long history, it is incumbent upon you to provide
>>>> : > proof of your assertion.
>>>===========================================
>>>Phillips
>>>I have never alleged and I do not believe that Jews ROUTINELY commit
>>>ritual murder. I am inclined to believe that it has happened but is a
>>>rare thing and certainly not indulged in by the generality of Jews.
>>
>>>After reading covington's original post about the ocurrences in Chicago
>>>in 1955,
>>>I did no more than say that the circumstances, taken as a whole, were
>>>highly suggestive of ritual murder.
>>>===========================================
>>>Phillips (previous)
>>
>>>> : It is well known that liberals and Jews have a penchant for hyperbole of
>>>> : that sort. It reveals far more about the author than it does about the
>>>> : person referred to.
>>>===================================================
>>>> 
>>>> All that it reveals about me is my opinion that you're a spineless, lying
>>>> buffoon.
>>>===========================================
>>>PHillips
>>>
>>>See what I mean?
>>>=====================
>>Notice that the Christkillers refuse to discuss the issue, namely how
>>many of them indulge in Jewish Ritual Murder, of children???



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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:26:48 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:55 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>
>>>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>>>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>>>working for Hitler??
>>>
>>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>>> > sperati wrote:
>>>
>>>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>
>>>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>
>>>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>> > > North Shore News
>>>> > > February 2, 1997
>>>
>>>> > > Insights from abroad
>>>> > > Doug Collins
>>>
>>>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>>>
>>>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>>
>>>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>>
>>>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>>
>>>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>
>>>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>>>
>>>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> > > alive.
>>>
>>>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>>
>>>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>>
>>>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>
>>>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> > > documents in the process.
>>>
>>>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>>
>>>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>>
>>>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>
>>>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>
>>>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> > > was a Jew.
>>>
>>>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>>
>>>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>
>>>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>
>>>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>
>>>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>>>
>>>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>
>>>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> > > wonder why?
>>>
>>>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>
>>>==============================================
>>>Phillips
>>>
>>>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>>>Heydrich,
>>>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>>>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>>>thaat
>>>depended on the degree of mixture.
>>>===========
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>>>Slepokura) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>>
>>>>Orest Slepokura:
>>>
>>>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>>>
>>>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>>>
>>>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>>>
>>>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>>>
>>>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>>>Zionist Organization. 
>>>
>>>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi there,
>>>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>>>
>>>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>>>Zyclon
>>>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>>>that
>>>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>>>ask
>>>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>>>That
>>>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>>>place,
>>>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>>>
>>>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>>>idiots of
>>>>>scp.
>>>
>>>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>>>too much for you to deal with. 
>>>
>>>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>>>And what bothers you?
>>>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>>>WWII by
>>>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>>>
>>>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>>>at their minds. 
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Alexander Sharon
>>>
>>>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:13:00 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:26:53 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:42:09 +0930, Seppo Renfors
>> wrote:
>>>Scott Balson wrote:
>>>> yvonne cooke wrote:
>>
>>>> > If "One Nation" is so worthy, what is wrong with people being members? Would
>>>> > not such a person as the woman (now deceased) named on his web page and her
>>>> > family have been proud of her membership?
>> 
>>>> OK then how would YOU and the MEDIA react if I published the Australia/Israel
>>>> Review subscription list?
>>
>>>THEY would laugh at you. Try it an see I dare you to!
>>
>>>> I would be labelled anti-semitic and a danger to society, but the politically
>>>> correct community niches (such as some zionists) are untouchable. Sounds like
>>>> the Indian caste system to me AND IT STINKS!
>>
>>>> > If publication was so bad, why has the web page owner named her on his web
>>>> > page, spreading confidential membership information so much further?
>> 
>>>> She is with friends on our web site she is with bigoted little arseholes when
>>>> she is referred to in that trashy magazine.
>>
>>>> > What is more likely to concern the executive of ON is that members of the
>>>> > reported totalitarian structure now know who other members are.
>>>> > The author of the web page has joined tabloid print and TV in doing more
>>>> > harm than the original article with its limited readership ever would have.
>>
>>
>>>> Bullshit - you are a complete arsehole aren't you.
>>
>>>The PHONey logic, if confronted with the TRUTH, resort to
>>>abuse, standard PHONey policy!
>>
>>>> The problem facing these zionist publishers is that they are without ethics by
>>>> publishing names and suburbs and if a One Nation member is firebombed because of
>>>> their action they will face bankruptcy through legal claims against them.
>>
>>



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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:42:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>You will probably be branded a racist by the Jew Sol Littman and his
>band of terrorists!!!
>
>They do not want non-Jews like you to read their books, which detail
>THEIR RACIST POLICIES!!!
>
>
>On 22 Mar 1998 17:57:57 GMT, intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:
>
>>vark! (mjh@idigital.net) wrote:
>>: intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
>>
>>: > But who decides.  The flat earth people say it is hatred against their
>>: > beliefs for schools to teach that the world is round.
>>
>>: *We* are to say, the collective voice of our nation.  You know,
>>: 'Democracy'.  But congratulations for utterly trivializing a serious
>>: debate.
>>
>>Ok, read the following from the Jewish Talmud and ask yourself if it is
>>racism and promotes hatred.
>>
>>
>>
>>Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:56:42 -0800
>>From: Cool Canadian 
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>>Subject: Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud
>>
>>
>>
>>"The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud..." 
>>
>>            "Babylonian Talmud", published by the Boston Talmud Society,
>>p. XII
>>
>>The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish
>>peoples, as "Gentiles",
>>"Goyim". Let's see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the Jews concerning
>>the non-Jewish majority,
>>i.e. those who are not part of Jahve's "Chosen People": 
>>
>>"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They
>>are beasts." 
>>
>>Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b 
>>
>>"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor
>>the the dog more
>>than the non-Jew." 
>>
>>Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30 
>>
>>"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human
>>form. It is not
>>becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served
>>by animals in
>>human form." 
>>
>>Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855 
>>
>>"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." 
>>
>>Coschen hamischpat 405 
>>
>>"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs." 
>>
>>Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b 
>>
>>"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they
>>compare with the
>>Jew like a monkey to a human." 
>>
>>Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b 
>>
>>"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog." 
>>
>>Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b 
>>
>>"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not
>>express sympathy to
>>the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as
>>if one of his oxen or
>>asses had died"." 
>>
>>Jore dea 377, 1 
>>
>>"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between
>>animals." 
>>
>>Talmud Sanhedrin 74b 
>>
>>"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile." 
>>
>>Sepher ikkarim III c 25 
>>
>>"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians
>>belong to the denying
>>ones of the Torah." 
>>
>>Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5 
>>
>>"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." 
>>
>>Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b 
>>
>>"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the
>>same as making a
>>sacrifice to God." 
>>
>>Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772



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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:02:42 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>
>>>DAILY MAIL
>>>Monday June 15 1998
>>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>
>>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>
>>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>
>>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>
>>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>
>>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>
>>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>
>>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>>has caused consider-able anger.
>
>>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>>to clear his name.
>
>>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>
>>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>>get on with our lives in peace.
>
>>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>
>>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>>where his wife and children live.
>
>>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>>to examine their records.
>
>>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>>with the family.
>
>>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>
>>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>
>>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>
>>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>
>>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>>end of this month.
>
>>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>
>>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>>'revival of common decencies'.
>
>>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>
>>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>>other cities in Britain.
>
>>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>
>>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>>Britain today.'
>
>>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.



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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:47:27 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:48:22 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>JEWISH JOKES
>>
>>How was copper wiring invented?
>>Two Jews fighting over a penny!
>>
>>
>>How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
>>They put parking meters on the roof!
>>
>>
>>Why is money green?
>>Because Jews pick it before it's ripe!
>>
>>
>>What candy did Hitler hate more then any other?
>>Jew Jew Beans... Although I heard he enjoyed them "roasted!"
>>
>>
>>If Tarzan and Jane were Jewish, what would Cheetah be?
>>A fur coat!
>>
>>
>>Why don't Jews eat pork?
>>They may be a lot of things, but CANNIBALS they're not!
>>
>>
>>Why aren't Jews attacked by sharks?
>>Professional courtesy!
>>
>>
>>Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
>>Let one in, and he'll keep the rest out.
>>
>>
>>What's the Jewish version of foreplay?
>>Half an hour of begging.
>>
>>
>>How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
>>She's the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!
>>
>>
>>Did you hear about the new tires, Firestein?
>>They not only stop on a dime, they also pick it up!
>>
>>
>>What's the difference between a circumcision and crucifixion?
>>In a crucifixion, they throw the whole Jew out!
>>
>>
>>Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
>>Someone dropped a quarter!
>>
>>
>>Why do Jews have such big noses?
>>Because air is free.
>>
>>
>>What did the Jewish mother ask her daughter when she learned she had
>>an
>>affair?
>>Who catered it?
>>
>>
>>What happens when a Jew with an erection walks into a wall?
>>He breaks his nose.
>>
>>
>>What's a Jewish dilemma?
>>Free ham.
>>
>>
>>What's the difference between a Jewish bitch and a barracuda?
>>Nail polish.
>>
>>
>>What's the difference between an elephant and a Jew?
>>An elephant eventually forgets.
>>
>>
>>A nigger was walking down the street, kicking some rubbish out of his
>>way,
>>when he spotted something amid the trash that gleamed
>>strangely. It urned out to be an oddly shaped bottle, and when he
>>rubbed it, a
>>Jewish genie appeared. "I'll give you two wishes," quipped
>>the genie. "Far out," said the black man. "First, I want to be white,
>>uptight,
>>and out of sight!" Second, I want to be surrounded by warm,
>>sweet pussy. So the genie turned him into a TAMPON! The moral of this
>>story:
>>You can't get anything from a Jew without strings
>>attached!
>>
>>
>>How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
>>Marry her!
>>
>>
>>Why do jewish bitches only sleep with circumcised men?
>>They want 20% off everything!
>>
>>
>>What's the difference between between karate and judo?
>>Karate is a form of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.
>>
>>
>>Did you hear that the limbo was invented by the Jews?
>>Yeah, from sneaking into pay toilets.
>>
>>
>>What's the definition of a queer Jew?
>>Someone that likes girls more then money.
>>
>>
>>What do you call ten Jewish bitches in a basement?
>>A WHINE cellar.
>>
>>
>>Why did the Jewish mother have herself entombed at Bloomingdales?
>>So her daughter would visit at least twice a week.
>>
>>
>>What's the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
>>A vulture waits until you're dead to eat your heart out!
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0700, "WaRR" 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>what do you get when you cross a jewish women and an arab women??
>>>oil of no lay!!
>>>
>>>=what is the difference between karate and judo?
>>>karate is the art of self-defense, and judo is what bagels aremade of.
>>>
>>>=i knew a jewish woman once who thought the apostle's creed was
>>>what fought rocky balboa.
>>>
>>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a toilet?
>>>a toilet doesn't follow you around for 9 months after you use it.
>>>
>>>=did you hear that al italia and el al were merging to form a new airline?
>>>it's called well i'll tell ya.=what do you call a jewish woman's waterbed?
>>>the dead sea. second prize: lake placid.
>>>
>>>=how was copper wire invented?
>>> by 2 jews fighting over a penny.
>>>
>>>=why are jewish men circumcised?
>>> because jewish women won't buy anything unless it's 20% off.
>>>
>>>=what do you call an uncircumcised jewish baby?
>>>a girl.
>>>
>>>=what do you get when you cross a jewish british princess & a computer?
>>>a computer that never goes down on you.
>>>=what's a jewish british princess' favorite wine?
>>> i wanna go to palmsprings.
>>>=how do you know a jewish british princess has an orgasm?
>>>she drops her nail file.
>>>
>>>=what do you have when you get 3 jewish british princesses together
>>>with 3 other women who have yeast infections?a whine and cheese party.
>>>=how many jewish british princesses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>>>two, one to get a diet coke and one to call daddy.
>>>
>>>=why do jewish girls like prostitution?
>>>because they can sell it again and again and again.
>>>
>>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and jello?
>>>jello moves when you eat it.
>>>
>>>=how does a jewish british princess do it doggie style?
>>>she makes him beg for an hour.
>>>
>>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a catholic
>>>british princess?
>>>the catholic british princess has fake jewelry and real orgasms.
>>>
>>>=what's the difference between jews and canoes?
>>>canoes tip.   ( THIS ONE FREAKS ME OUT :)))))
>>>
>>>=what's the difference between jews and pizzas?
>>>pizzas don't scream when you put them in the oven.
>>>
>>>=what is a jewish dilemma?
>>>free ham.
>>>=what do you call a jewish piano?
>>>a cash register.
>>>=how many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
>>>none. they are used to sitting in the dark.
>>>=did you hear about the rabbi who did free circumcisions?
>>>he only took tips.
>>>=how many jews can you fit in a vw?
>>>two in the front, two in the back, and ten thousand in the ash tray.
>>>
>>>=a priest, a baptist minister, and a rabbi were asked how they would
>>>divide up some gold coins between themselves and god. the priest
>>>replied, "i'd draw a line down the middle of the room, throw the
>>>coins in the air, and whatever landed on one side goes to god,
>>>the other to me." the minister replied, "i'd draw a circle in
>>>the middle of the room, and whatever lands inside is for god,
>>>outside for me." the rabbi's answer was, he wouldn't draw any
>>>line, just throw the money in the air and whatever god caughthe could keep.
>>>
>>>
>>>=an italian, a jew, and a homosexual were walking down the street and
>>>were hit by the same bolt of lightning. next thing they know they're
>>>in front of st. peter begging for a second chance. "ok," he says,
>>>"but on one condition: you must give up that which you love the most.
>>>if you don't, you go straight to hell." after agreeing, they find
>>>themselves back on the street and they start walking again. a few
>>>blocks down they pass a pizza store. "i can't help myself!" says the
>>>italian... he goes in, takes a bite of pizza, and poof!, he
>>>disappears. so the jew and the homosexual continue walking
>>>down the street. the jew sees a penny on the sidewalk. "i can't
>>>help myself!" he says. he reaches for the penny and poof! the
>>>homosexual disappears.
>>>
>>>
>>>yours truly
>>>
>>>WaRR
>>>



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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:55:25 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 20:51:21 +0100, joswig@lavielle.com (Rainer
>Joswig) wrote:
>
>>In article <366818c2.3693143@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>,
>>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 15:56:19 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> >One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>>> >may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>>> >who were in the German military!!!
>>> One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>>> may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>>> who were in the German military!!!
>>> 
>>> Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide
>>> for
>>> themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.
>>
>>JEW lies, so they can continue to swindle Christians with their HOLOHOAX....
>
>One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>who were in the German military!!!
>
>Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide
>for
>themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.
>
>
>
>
>someone@somewhere.com wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>> Holman) wrote: 
>> >Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims 
>> >made here.
>
>
>
>> >1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>> >DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>
>> >        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>> >individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>> >witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No 
>> >mounds of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing 
>> >the job, no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no 
>> >records, no demographic statistics.
>
>> >        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>> >forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>> >comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>> >figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>
>> Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>> half of the original 600,000 JEWS in Germany were in the German
>> military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>> extort money from gullible governments!!!
> 
>> >        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>> >RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>> >WORLD WAR TWO?
> 
>> >        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>> >interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German 
>> >war effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of 
>> >their race or national origin alone.
> 
>> >        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>> >CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
> 
>> >        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>> >their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>> >Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist 
>> >subversion during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were 
>> >highly overrepresented in government, commercial, and media 
>> >positions.
>
>> >However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger 
>> >of internment once the war broke out.
>
>> >        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>> >Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply 
>> >because the German government had removed Jews from influential 
>> >positions and transferred power back to the German people. The 
>> >boycott order and the Jewish war against Germany were reported in 
>> >the world print and broadcast media of the time. False stories of 
>> >German "death camps" were in fact circulated even before the outbreak 
>> >of World War Two. Therefore the German view of the Jewish people 
>> >as enemy aliens would seem to have been fully justified.
> 
>> >        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>> >DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
> 
>> >        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>> >gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
> 
>> >        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS 
>> >IT WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT 
>> >WAS?
>
>> >        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>> >murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>> >were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>> >chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official 
>> >Holocaust lore because it became too difficult to maintain in 
>> >the face of known fact and because Dachau was in the Allied 
>> >occupation zone where access to the camp was too 
>> >easy and unrestricted.
> 
>> >        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>> >version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning 
>> >of the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>> >noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>> >official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>> >Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
> 
>> >        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF 
>> >THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED 
>> >AT AUSCHWITZ?
> 
>> >        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz 
>> >could not possibly have been used to carry out executions; 
>> >it is far too small and it is not even airtight. 
>> >In the 1980s, American expert Fred Leuchter, who builds gas chambers 
>> >for American penal systems, took scrapings from the walls 
>> >of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>> >analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit 
>> >is a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
> 
>> Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>> 1949, long after the war???
>
>> >        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE 
>> >PURPOSE?
> 
>> >        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>> >(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in 
>> >the same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>> >correctional systems throughout the United States today.
> 
>> >        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
> 
>> >        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of 
>> >hydrocyanic gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, 
>> >including the fumigation of lice-infested clothing, 
>> >the purpose for which it was applied at Auschwitz. 
>> >Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>> >commonly used and available today.
> 
>> >        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>> >COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
> 
>> >        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>> >brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>> >figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>> >read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>> >Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>> >cross examined.
> 
>> >        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA 
>> >FUMIGATED WITH ZYKLON-B?
> 
>> >        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>> >and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>> >only are employed.
> 
>> >        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>> >ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>> >THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
> 
>> >        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened 
>> >like that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered 
>> >the same fate as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
> 
>> >        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>> >CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>> >BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
> 
>> >        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the 
>> >six million figure as well.
> 
>> >        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT 
>> >SECRET FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE 
>> >POPE, THE VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND 
>> >ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE NOT KNOW?
> 
>> >        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>> >British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>> >been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>> >were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a 
>> >potentially powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any 
>> >contemporary evidence at all during the war that such an event was 
>> >occurring.
>
>> >        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>> >DURING THE WAR?
> 
>> >        About 300,000.
> 
>> >        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
> 
>> >        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>> >Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably 
>> >appears whenever people are jammed together for long periods 
>> >without bathing.It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. 
>> >Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant 
>> >purposes, more Jews  might have survived the concentration camps. 
>> >Jewish prisoners (as well as many others) also died from starvation 
>> >and lack of medical attention towards the end of the war 
>> >when virtually all rail and road transport had come to a standstill 
>> >due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
> 
>> >        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 
>> >300,000 DIED?
>
>> >        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>> >deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>> >exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>> >was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>> >identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>> >of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>> >the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
> 
>> >        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>> >BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD 
>> >HAVE BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
> 
>> >        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>> >afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.
> 
>> >        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
> 
>> >        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed 
>> >by flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated 
>> >in open pits.
>> >[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>> >observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>> >American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely 
>> >to destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in 
>> >any other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim 
>> >otherwise are either parroting what they have been told without 
>> >bothering to check their facts, or else they are lying.]
>
>> >        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>> >BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A 
>> >BODY ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
> 
>> >        About two hours.
> 
>> >        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
> 
>> >        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead 
>> >from typhus and other diseases.
> 
>> >        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN 
>> >ALL THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE 
>> >MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO 
>> >INCINERATE DURING THE ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
> 
>> >        About 430,600.
> 
>> >        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
> 
>> >        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>> >per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>> >when in heavy operation.
> 
>> >        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>> >CORPSE?
> 
>> >        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>> >time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
> 
>> >        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>> >HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
> 
>> >        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>> >produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have 
>> >been no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz 
>> >area or anywhere else in Europe.
> 
>> >        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE 
>> >AIR, SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
> 
>> >        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the 
>> >immense amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the 
>> >camp, nor do they show any evidence of the alleged open 
>> >pits where the bodies were burned.
> 
>> >        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 
>> >THE WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
> 
>> >        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>> >September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>> >packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>> >full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second 
>> >World War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or 
>> >any of the wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
> 
>> >        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>> >liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of 
>> >articles claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". 
>> >This charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated 
>> >Jewish attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles 
>> >steadily in the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
> 
>> >        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
> 
>> >        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>> >Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>> >conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>> >literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>> >diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>> >adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from 
>> >the published text.
>>
>> >        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the 
>> >actual writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. 
>> >A Jewish judge in New York ordered the records of the court case 
>> >sealed for 100 years.
>> >When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>> >noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were 
>> >interpolations written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, 
>> >a writing instrument which was not invented until 1950. The original 
>> >diary was swiftly removed from exhibit and whisked away 
>> >into a safety deposit box inIsrael. It has never been produced for 
>> >examination since then despite repeated attempts by scholars to view 
>> >it.
> 
>> >        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>> >ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED 
>> >CORPSES AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
> 
>> >        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>> >Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>> >Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>> >man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>> >of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>> >historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>> >the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
> 
>> >        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>> >atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>> >remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>> >the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>> >laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>> >be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of 
>> >the fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme 
>> >left-wing views and are as quick to apologize for and explain 
>> >away Stalin's butcheries as they are to invent fraudulent crimes 
>> >attributed to Adolf Hitler. The almost universally leftist 
>> >political and social orientation of
>> >Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind 
>> >when examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>> >important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>> >the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken 
>> >McVay's refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General 
>> >Secretary Smith asked him why he did not condemn the 
>> >mass murders of Stalin.)
> 
>> >        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>> >SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
> 
>> >        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>> >predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would 
>> >certainlyhave been in a position to learn about it. Since no such 
>> >plan existed,the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
> 
>> >        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>> >EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
> 
>> >        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>> >deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come 
>> >tolight. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>> >Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering  
>> >the extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis 
>> >were meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were 
>> >seized by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied 
>> >archivists and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them 
>> >all. Nothing. Zip. Nada.
>
>> >        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>> >DURING THE WAR?
> 
>> >        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>> >from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>> >they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>> >official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>> >British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>> >Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>> >industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that 
>> >Eichmann was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered 
>> >in order to silence him.
> 
>
>> In Canada there was a detailed story in Toronto Life magazine about the 
>> roles  of the Reichman and Gestetner families in providing assistance 
>> to the Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public 
>> exposure,and have tried to restrict distribution of this news, 
>> which is available from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
> 
>
>
>> >        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED 
>> >BY THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
> 
>> >        Slightly less than four million.
> 
>> >        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE 
>> >THE NAZIS?
> 
>> >        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>> >kill them.
> 
>> >        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>> >HAPPENED TO THEM?
> 
>> >        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>> >States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 
>> >300,000, they are all accounted for.
> 
>> >        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>> >TODAY?
>
>> >        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>> >economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>> >sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>> >justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>> >dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>> >billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>> >growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>> >Jewish people to keep the scam going.
> 
>> >        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>> >WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
> 
>> >        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>> >They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, 
>> >not real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals 
>> >of events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>> >screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where 
>> >Jews are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and 
>> >the creative and financial sectors of film making.
> 
>> >        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>> >that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>> >begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, 
>> >the character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in 
>> >Spielberg's production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the 
>> >point of being unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost 
>> >saintly,  and yet none of those still living who remember 
>> >the man have a single good word to say about him. The real Schindler 
>> >was a confidence artist, a thief, a libertine and degenerate gambler 
>> >who indulged freely in forced sexual relations with young 
>> >female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>> >and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>> >money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>> >because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and 
>> >events like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with 
>> >the most bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
> 
>> >        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE 
>> >SOME ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
> 
>> >        Over 100, with more in the works.
> 
>> >        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>> >ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>
>> >        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>> >right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>> >freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>> >explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>> >unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>> >position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>> >genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>> >libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>> >subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>> >from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
> 
>> >        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>> >VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> >        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>> >always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>> >Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>> >called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>> >hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>> >express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>> >from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>> >have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>> >Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>> >ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>> >cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
> 
>> >        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>> >hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>> >giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those 
>> >who ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the 
>> >Holocaust are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
> 
>> >        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>> >him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>> >Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>> >Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an 
>> >arson attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of 
>> >show trials lasting over ten years, and after being finally acquitted 
>> >he has been denied Canadian citizenship and is still battling 
>> >attempts  to deport him to prison and torture in Germany.
>
>> >        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>> >kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>> >lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>> >pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>> >legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>> >abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>> >only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>> >pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>> >distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder 
>> >has been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists 
>> >have been stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure 
>> >in universities, victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs 
>> >in the mail, and subjected to constant death threats 
>> >from Jews and Marxists.
>
>> >        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent 
>> >people who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by 
>> >trying to kill, imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. 
>> >More than anything else, the behavior of the Jews and the 
>> >governments they influence so strongly proves that the 
>> >Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>> >neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>> >silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people 
>> >who believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults 
>> >and torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the 
>> >part of the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have 
>> >imposed the most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of 
>> >humanity, and have used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, 
>> >steal another people's country, and then to slaughter that country's 
>> >original inhabitants at will, as according to National Public Radio 
>> >they are doing even now as I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
> 
>> >        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>> >REVISIONISTS?
> 
>> >        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than 
>> >ever to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the 
>> >earth understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded 
>> >them, and robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust 
>> >lie. There can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the
>> >Holocaust will be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at 
>> >large for what it is: a politically inspired hoax.
> 
>> >NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>> >pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>> >information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>> >ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>
>
> 
>One MUST question the validity of the EXTORTION on gullible
>governments
>by the damn JEWS for alleged compensation.
>
>
>
>If half of the German JEWS were in the German military, as the
>attached
>article documents, why give them any money??
> 
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
> From: stefan lemieszewski 
> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
> 
> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals.
>One
> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
> 
> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in
>England
> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would
>like
> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
> Stefan Lemieszewski
> 
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> North Shore News
> February 2, 1997
> 
> Insights from abroad
> Doug Collins
> 
> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
> that is ignored in Canada.
> 
> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
> 
> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two
>pages
> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
> 
> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of
>whom
> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
> 
> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five
>major
> generals, and 23 colonels.
> 
> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
> more. The research is continuing.
> 
> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied
>France
> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
> alive.
> 
> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
> 
> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
> 
> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked
>in
> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
> 
> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews
>and
> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long
>investigation
> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
> documents in the process.
> 
> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed
>that
> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew>
>could 
> ever have fought for Hitler.
> 
> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
> 
> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
> 
> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may
>be
> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers
>of
> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
> 
> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into
>an
> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who
>can
> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of
>the
> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
> 
> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor
>Helmut
> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
> was a Jew.
> 
> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
> 
> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or
>even
> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
> 
> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was
>Jewish.
> 
> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom
>he
> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced
>to a
> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
> 
> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
> 
> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and
>obtained,
> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox
>Lubavitcher
> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944
>for
> plotting against Hitler.
> 
> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via
>Latvia,
> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a
>Jew
> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler
>saw
> to it that he was discharged from the army.
> 
> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time
>magazine. I
> wonder why?
> 
> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and
>the
> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published
>in
> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>sven88



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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:11:33 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:07:24 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>
>>Here  is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>
>>The Kastner Case
>>
>>                              
>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>
>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>are generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy'
>>about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for
>>money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated'
>>by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>>
>>                              The Accusations
>>
>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>
>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
>>Herald, he wrote:
>>
>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>
>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>silence.
>>
>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>>exterminations.
>>
>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>
>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
>>With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben
>>Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
>>
>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>
>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
>>operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
>>elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
>>negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
>>them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
>>Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
>>resisting deportation - and even keep order in the collection camps -
>>if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
>>Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
>>not too high for me.
>>
>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
>>case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
>>and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>
>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>
>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal 'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
>>helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
>>escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
>>or so Jews...That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>of  Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
>>prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
>>Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
>>the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>>                                The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court
>>of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence  in the false information that they were being transferred
>>to Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
>>mislead the Jews.
>>
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
>>overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
>>activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
>>leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
>>community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
>>Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
>>Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
>>The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
>>they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
>>will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
>>Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
>>the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs
>>.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
>>S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
>>Jews.
>>
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
>>a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
>>that would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with
>>Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
>>whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
>>great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
>>on the other hand.
>>
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
>>was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
>>the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
>>fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
>>the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
>>already been wiped out from the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
>>not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
>>the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
>>chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
>>quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
>>124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
>>Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
>>S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he
>>concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
>>of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
>>prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
>>negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation
>>in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
>>last minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one
>>overwhelming truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one
>>moment the good intention of good Becher'.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
>>the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
>>were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
>>there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
>>criminal. Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
>>affidavit given in favor of a war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements." 
>>
>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
>>unproved accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from
>>his Nazi 
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>> 
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June
>>1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
>>criminal libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an
>>appeal filed.
>>
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
>>such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
>>come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
>>institutions."(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the  name  of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
>>this point  Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
>>'fully rehabilitated'.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court - that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
>>take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
>>'fully rehabilitated'.
>>                        
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
>>two, found that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and
>>convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
>>'collaboration'.
>>
>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
>>that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner. They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
>>the end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
>>saying, 'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
>>tree'. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
>>witness about the Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in
>>Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a
>>Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
>>with force against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view
>>no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
>>news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
>>can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
>>result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
>>Jewish community.
>>
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
>>and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
>>that Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
>>scale...And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
>>very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
>>knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
>>save a few Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his
>>hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
>>their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
>>question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
>>a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
>>should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
>>awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
>>although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
>>many or should he disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
>>will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I
>>said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
>>President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
>>me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
>>demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>>
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
>>leadership both from a moral and public point of view...
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
>>extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
>>Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
>>gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
>>what was known to them and did not warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
>>Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
>>people in Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
>>exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did -
>>concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
>>Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
>>Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
>>have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
>>dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
>>judgements on the guilt of others....
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
>>ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
>>he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
>>of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
>>of the few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
>>accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
>>extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
>>result.'
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
>>the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
>>emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
>>had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
>>thousands would have been able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
>>money, bribery,etc. - and when this is the case and when one deals
>>with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
>>reject with complete certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency
>>of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
>>thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God? 
>>Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
>>to a claim of such good faith...
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
>>will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
>>as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
>>the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
>>rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
>>make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
>>his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
>>many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
>>escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
>>these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
>>proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
>>claim that Kastner had concealed the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
>>and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
>>working  smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional
>>proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
>>tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
>>occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
>>proof of  evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
>>great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
>>eyes...I couldn't base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
>>been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
>>of events it throws retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
>>have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
>>advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
>>to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
>>and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
>>on trial .
>>
>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the  Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
>>Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
>>eventually to Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
>>leadership in Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less
>>delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately
>>after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
>>'rehabilitating' him was delivered.
>>
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the  Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
>>'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the
>>murder trial).
>>
>>
>>sven88



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:24:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:00:51 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>>
>>>They haven't.
>>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>
>>>>David Maddison
>>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>>Harold.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, Mr_I@TIO>not.awww....
>>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>>woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>> 
>>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>>> peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>>
>>
>>>Shouldn't that be "Oingo Boingo"?
>>
>>>Doesn't Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of 
>>>"Be careful who you hate, because you'll end up being just like them".
>>
>>>They're behaving like Nazi's in Palestine (let's call it by it's real name
>>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn't one of the
>>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>>the Past AND the Future?...).
>>
>>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli's are secular and
>>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!.  WHO DON'T WORK.  WHO DON'T HAVE TO DO
>>>MILITARY SERVICE.  WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>>peace.
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 04:42:35 GMT, cartman@southpark.com (Eric Cartman)
>>wrote:
>>>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:28:39 GMT, management.dolitle@omcs.com.au
>>>(Scott Steel) wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:20:36 GMT, zsero@bigfoot.com (Zev Sero) wrote:
>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James) wrote:
>>
>>>>>The publication of a portion of the membership list of One Nation is
>>>>>in no way comparable to your Nazi heroes' making up of lists of Jews
>>>>>to murder.  Neither Mark Leibler nor anyone else involved in AIR has
>>>>>given the slightest indication that they might be prone to violence
>>>>>against One Nation members.
>>
>>>>Im sure they havent.
>>>>But they printed the List with the expectation of intimidating One
>>>>Nation members.This is not acceptable in a country with a right to
>>>>free political association.
>>
>>>>>  It's clear that the purpose of publishing
>>>>>the list was to shame these people who have lent a hand to that unworthy
>>>>>cause. 
>>
>>>>To "shame" these people?
>>>>Who  is Leibler to define whom needs "shaming"?
>>>>Since when did that little imp carry the collective conscience of
>>>>Australia?
>>
>>>Seems to be a preoccupation of the people of Jehovah.



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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:38:01 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 14:19:49 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, "William Hubbard" 
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Strakitch tye golevo!
>>
>>>Should be shta allah aboukir!!!
>>
>>>>bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote in article
>>>><35ff8fb8.1840244@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>>>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote: 
>>>>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, "Fenian" < fenian@hibernian.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>morgan@shamrock.com wrote in article
>>>><35995802.2904819@news.nucleus.com>...
>>>>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>>
>>>>> >>> >>> Shouldn't the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>>>>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the swine???
>>
>>>>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower than
>>>>> >>> >the feces of swine.
>>
>>>>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>>>>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>>>>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!
>>
>>>>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being conducted
>>>>> >>> in the Temples.
>>



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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:21:43 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:56:06, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>
>>Here  is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>
>>The Kastner Case
>>
>>                              
>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>
>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>are generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy'
>>about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for
>>money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated'
>>by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>>
>>                              The Accusations
>>
>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>
>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
>>Herald, he wrote:
>>
>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>
>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>silence.
>>
>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>>exterminations.
>>
>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>
>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
>>With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben
>>Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
>>
>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>
>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
>>operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
>>elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
>>negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
>>them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
>>Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
>>resisting deportation - and even keep order in the collection camps -
>>if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
>>Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
>>not too high for me.
>>
>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
>>case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
>>and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>
>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>
>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal 'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
>>helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
>>escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
>>or so Jews...That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>of  Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
>>prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
>>Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
>>the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>>                                The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court
>>of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence  in the false information that they were being transferred
>>to Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
>>mislead the Jews.
>>
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
>>overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
>>activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
>>leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
>>community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
>>Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
>>Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
>>The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
>>they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
>>will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
>>Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
>>the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs
>>.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
>>S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
>>Jews.
>>
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
>>a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
>>that would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with
>>Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
>>whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
>>great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
>>on the other hand.
>>
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
>>was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
>>the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
>>fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
>>the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
>>already been wiped out from the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
>>not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
>>the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
>>chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
>>quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
>>124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
>>Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
>>S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he
>>concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
>>of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
>>prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
>>negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation
>>in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
>>last minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one
>>overwhelming truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one
>>moment the good intention of good Becher'.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
>>the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
>>were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
>>there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
>>criminal. Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
>>affidavit given in favor of a war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements." 
>>
>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
>>unproved accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from
>>his Nazi 
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>> 
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June
>>1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
>>criminal libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an
>>appeal filed.
>>
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
>>such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
>>come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
>>institutions."(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the  name  of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
>>this point  Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
>>'fully rehabilitated'.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court - that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
>>take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
>>'fully rehabilitated'.
>>                        
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
>>two, found that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and
>>convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
>>'collaboration'.
>>
>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
>>that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner. They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
>>the end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
>>saying, 'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
>>tree'. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
>>witness about the Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in
>>Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a
>>Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
>>with force against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view
>>no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
>>news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
>>can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
>>result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
>>Jewish community.
>>
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
>>and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
>>that Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
>>scale...And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
>>very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
>>knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
>>save a few Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his
>>hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
>>their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
>>question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
>>a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
>>should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
>>awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
>>although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
>>many or should he disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
>>will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I
>>said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
>>President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
>>me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
>>demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>>
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
>>leadership both from a moral and public point of view...
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
>>extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
>>Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
>>gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
>>what was known to them and did not warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
>>Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
>>people in Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
>>exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did -
>>concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
>>Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
>>Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
>>have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
>>dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
>>judgements on the guilt of others....
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
>>ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
>>he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
>>of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
>>of the few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
>>accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
>>extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
>>result.'
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
>>the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
>>emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
>>had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
>>thousands would have been able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
>>money, bribery,etc. - and when this is the case and when one deals
>>with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
>>reject with complete certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency
>>of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
>>thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God? 
>>Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
>>to a claim of such good faith...
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
>>will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
>>as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
>>the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
>>rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
>>make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
>>his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
>>many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
>>escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
>>these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
>>proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
>>claim that Kastner had concealed the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
>>and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
>>working  smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional
>>proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
>>tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
>>occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
>>proof of  evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
>>great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
>>eyes...I couldn't base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
>>been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
>>of events it throws retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
>>have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
>>advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
>>to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
>>and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
>>on trial .
>>
>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the  Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
>>Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
>>eventually to Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
>>leadership in Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less
>>delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately
>>after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
>>'rehabilitating' him was delivered.
>>
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the  Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
>>'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the
>>murder trial).
>>
>>
>>sven88
>>>



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On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:45:55 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:54:25 GMT, vincent@dreamon.com wrote:
>
>>[From The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 1992 issue]
>>
>> "The Secret Files: How AIPAC Can Slander You By Stealth -- An
>>Insider's Expose"
>>
>>-or-
>>
>>"The Secret Section in Israel's U.S. Lobby That Stifles American
>>Debate"
>>
>> by Gregory D. Slabodkin
>>
>> 
>>During the reign of terror that Senator Joseph McCarthy unleashed in
>>the 1950s, when the reputations and lives of many loyal Americans were
>>ruined by false charges of "communism" and "treason," American Jewry
>>was overwhelmingly opposed to the Wisconsin senator and his blackmail
>>by blacklists. According to the Gallup polls of the time, the
>>percentage of U.S. Jews who opposed McCarthy's smear tactics was twice
>>that of the rest of the population. Many Jewish organizations passed
>>resolutions condemning McCarthy's ruthless character assassination.
>>
>>Today, however, such national Jewish organizations as the
>>Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) and the American Israel
>>Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) are using the same tactics to stifle
>>open debate of U.S. policy in the Middle East.
>>
>>
>>Secretly Circulated Lists
>>
>>
>> To Conduct this "neo-McCarthyism," AIPAC operates a covert section
>>within its research department that monitors and keeps files on
>>politicians, journalists, academics, Arab-American activists, Jewish
>>liberals, and others it labels "anti-Israel."  AIPAC selects
>>information from these files and secretly circulates lists of the
>>"guilty," together with their alleged political misdeeds, buttressed
>>by their statements, often totally out of context.
>>
>>Just as McCarthy's permanent investigations subcommittee labeled
>>criticism of specific policies of the U.S. government as "anti-
>>American" or "pro-Soviet," AIPAC labels criticism of Israeli
>>government policies "anti-Israel," "pro-Arab" or "pro-PLO."  Still
>>worse is the pro-Israel lobby's redefinition of "anti-Semitism" to
>>include any such criticism of Israel or its actions.
>>
>> To date, revelations about AIPAC's blacklisting and smear tactics
>>have barely scratched the surface of the pro-Israel lobby's secret
>>activities. Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his 1985 best-selling
>>book _They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront
>>Israel's Lobby_, documented what he could see of that lobby's impact
>>on U.S. politics, defense, foreign and economic policies, as well as
>>academia and the media. However, as an insider who worked within
>>AIPAC's stealth section, I can confirm what Findley could only
>>surmise. That an organized blacklisting operation exists is a tragic
>>fact that no longer should be ignored.
>>
>> AIPAC's "opposition research" department traces its roots to I.L.
>>(Sy) Kenen, who founded AIPAC in 1954. As editor of AIPAC's weekly
>>_Near East Report_, he often attacked critics of Israel in his aptly
>>titled column, "The Monitor."  Besides monitoring, analyzing, and
>>responding to "anti-Israel" comment and activities in the United
>>States, Kenen also kept files on AIPAC's "enemies."  In his final year
>>AIPAC began to expand its intelligence-gathering operations.
>>
>> Kenen's memoirs, _Israel's Defense Line: Her Friends and Foes in 
>>Washington_, record how AIPAC pooled resources in 1974 with the
>>American Jewish Committee and other national Jewish organizations to
>>create a "truth squad."  Its purpose was to combat "pro-Arab
>>propaganda" and the emerging "Arab lobby," which Kenen believed to be
>>a growing threat to the U.S.-Israel relationship.
>>
>> "While vigorously defending Israel's perceived interests, the
>>organizations that created the truth squad turned into a kind of
>>Jewish thought police," journalist Robert I. Friedman explains.
>>"Investigators -- sometimes overzealous Jewish college students,
>>sometimes sources with access to U.S. intelligence agencies -- were
>>used to ferret out critics of Israel, Jew or gentile, wherever they
>>might be. At ADL and AIPAC, files were opened on journalists,
>>politicians, scholars and community activists. Their speeches and
>>writings were monitored, as were, in some cases, their other
>>professional activities. And they were often smeared with charges of
>>anti-Semitism or with the pernicious label of self-hating Jew. The
>>intention was to stifle debate on the Middle East within the Jewish
>>community, the media and academia, for fear that criticism of any kind
>>would weaken the Jewish state."
>>
>> When Kenen stepped down as executive director of AIPAC in December
>>1974, the task of monitoring Israel's "enemies" was left to the
>>department of research and information at AIPAC, where it has remained
>>ever since.
>>
>>
>> Monitoring Israel's "Enemies"
>>
>>
>>Morris Amitay, Kenen's successor as AIPAC executive director, did not 
>>follow Kenen's practice of countering "pro-Arab propaganda" with
>>polished editorials in the _Near East Report_.  Amitay was more
>>concerned with developing AIPAC into a first-rate lobbying
>>organization, as demonstrated by the fact that AIPAC grew dramatically
>>during his six-year reign. These also were key years in the growth of
>>intelligence gathering.
>>
>>Some of the growth resulted from the challenge presented by a small, 
>>dovish, Jewish organization of the late 1970s known as Breira.
>>"Breira," the Hebrew word for "alternative," was organized by a tiny
>>group of American Jewish rabbis, professors and other activists from
>>the civil rights and anti-war movement of the 1960s.
>>
>>Recognizing that the U.S. Jewish community was not monolithic on the
>>subject of Israel, Breira encouraged American Jews to question
>>Israel's policies in the occupied territories after the 1967 Six-Day
>>War and to engage in an open and frank debate on U.S. foreign policy
>>in the Middle East. Many Breira positions reflected those of the Peace
>>Now movement in Israel.
>>
>>However, American Jewish organizations would not tolerate in the U.S. 
>>the dissent that characterized political debate in Israel. Instead
>>AIPAC and other Jewish organizations set out to silence Breira by
>>discrediting its members. Although these Jewish peaceniks were
>>motivated by love and concern for Israel, they were smeared as "anti-
>>Israel," "pro-PLO," and "self-hating Jews."
>>
>>Kenen, still serving as acting editor of AIPAC's _Near East Report_, 
>>charged that Breira "undermined U.S. support for Israel."  Only one
>>prominent Jewish leader defended Breira. He was Rabbi Alexander
>>Schindler, president of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations,
>>who called the attack on Breira a "witch hunt."  He was ignored,
>>however, and the swift and successful campaign to snuff out Breira set
>>the "rules" for dissent in the American Jewish community, as well as
>>who would be the "enforcer" of these "rules."
>>
>>As Edward Tivnan observed in his book, _The Lobby: Jewish Political 
>>Power and American Foreign Policy_: "By attacking Breira, Jewish
>>leaders had turned over much of their power to AIPAC, Israel's most
>>loyal agent in the U.S. and a proved enemy of dissent from Israeli
>>policies, among Jews as well as gentiles."
>>
>>In the late 1970s and early 1980s, AIPAC published an annual "Who's
>>Who" of "anti-Israel organizations and personalities, providing
>>important background information for AIPAC members who must deal with
>>them in the political arena."  AIPAC photocopied these "enemies lists"
>>to meet increasing requests by its members for materials on
>>"anti-Israel" forces.
>>
>>
>>AIPAC's "War for Washington"
>>
>>
>>Thomas Dine, a former legislative assistant to Senator Ted Kennedy,
>>who replaced Amitay in 1980 as AIPAC executive director, expanded
>>AIPAC's opposition research. This was part of Dine's "War for
>>Washington," inspired by what he portrayed as the dramatic growth of
>>"anti-Israel" organizations in the nation's capital. AIPAC was
>>particularly worried about the Arab-American community, just beginning
>>to organize.
>>
>>In August 1982, AIPAC hired Amy Goott as its first full-time employee
>>to monitor Israel's "enemies."  Goott was recruited from the
>>Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, where she had similar duties.
>>In a speech at the 1983 AIPAC Policy Conference, Goott called on AIPAC
>>members to send useful information to her in Washington.
>>
>>In June 1983, AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_, 
>>coauthored by Goott. As Dine explained in the handbook's preface, its
>>purpose was to update the activities of "anti-Israel" organizations
>>and individuals, and to provide a "more complete and convenient
>>analysis of this activity" to "meet the needs of AIPAC members."  Yet,
>>despite its glossy cover and carefully worded and seemingly objective
>>descriptions, _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_ was nothing more than
>>a blacklist. By lumping them together, it sought to categorize critics
>>of all kinds as "enemies" of Israel. The final chapter, "A Directory
>>of the Actors," profiled 21 organizations and 38 individuals to be
>>monitored and discredited whenever possible.
>>
>>At about the same time that AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit
>>
>>Israel_, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith published its own 
>>document entitled _Pro-Arab Propaganda in America: Vehicles and
>>Voices_. Overlaps in the texts and the timing reflect Ms. Goott's
>>employment by both organizations during the period both publications
>>were in preparation.
>>
>>"The primary accusation leveled against the groups and individuals 
>>listed in the B'nai B'rith and AIPAC books is that they are
>>'pro-Palestinian' or 'pro-PLO,'" Cheryl Rubenberg writes in her book,
>>_Israel and the American National Interest_.  "Pro-Israeli groups have
>>succeeded in associating the words 'Palestinian' and 'PLO' with
>>terrorism in the minds of Americans; then with techniques reminiscent
>>of the McCarthy era, they smear their opposition with the label
>>'pro-PLO.'"
>>
>>The smear campaign did not go totally unchallenged within the U.S. 
>>Jewish community. In December 1983, _New York Times_ columnist Anthony
>>Lewis criticized AIPAC's tactics, particularly the inclusion in its
>>"enemies list" of Walid Khalidi, a Palestinian intellectual living in
>>Boston, as does Lewis.
>>
>>Khalidi supports a two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. In
>>
>>its handbook, however, AIPAC quoted selectively from one of his
>>articles to depict him as an extremist calling for the destruction of
>>Israel.
>>
>>"Joe McCarthy could not have produced a nastier distortion" of
>>Khalidi's views, Lewis wrote. He suggested that Israel's lobby should
>>welcome Palestinian moderation instead of trying to "smear" it.
>> 
>>In November 1984, the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), the 
>>largest organization of Middle East educators in the United States,
>>unanimously condemned AIPAC and ADL blacklisting. MESA called on both 
>>national Jewish organizations to "disavow and refrain from such
>>activities" as soliciting "unbalanced information on students, faculty
>>and other parties at American campuses" and "listing factually
>>inaccurate and unsubstantiated assertions that defame specific
>>students, teachers and researchers as 'pro-Arab propagandists,' who
>>'use their anti-Zionism as merely a guise for their deeply felt
>>anti-Semitism.'"
>>
>>When it released the first edition of _The Campaign to Discredit
>>Israel_ in 1983, AIPAC had announced plans to publish updated versions
>>annually. 
>>
>>However, due to the negative publicity it engendered, the first
>>edition was also the last. Instead, AIPAC continued its monitoring of
>>"anti-Israel" activities, but disseminated the results secretly.
>>
>>
>> Going Underground
>> 
>>
>>AIPAC's decision to take its opposition research underground coincided
>>
>>with the hiring in the mid-1980s of Michael Lewis and Anna Gottlieb.
>>Gottlieb joined AIPAC after a stint at the Justice Department's Office
>>of Special Investigations (OSI). Lewis came to AIPAC from the
>>Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank closely
>>associated with the pro-Israel lobby.  
>>
>>He is the son of Princeton University "orientalist" Bernard Lewis,
>>whose writings have been criticized in the Middle East for denigrating
>>Islam as a religion and Arabs as a people.
>>
>>Michael Lewis, the present head of AIPAC's stealth section,
>>innocuously named Policy Analysis, describes it as a "clearing-house"
>>for information on anti-Israel organizations and activists to provide
>>a "resource, and fulfill a need, unreplicated anywhere else."  He has
>>provided negative information both to rival politicians and to
>>journalists about prominent individuals whom 
>>
>>
>>AIPAC considers to be "anti-Israel."
>>
>>
>>In one case Lewis provided information that became the basis of a
>>racist brochure mailed to voters in California's 44th congressional
>>district by candidate Randy "Duke" Cunningham's campaign in the spring
>>of 1990. The brochure accused former U.S. Ambassador to Qatar Joseph
>>Ghougassian, Cunningham's Republican primary election opponent, of
>>being "bank-rolled by Arab oil interests."  The brochure, featuring a
>>photo of Ghougassian with a drawing of Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi,
>>asked: "We don't need a congressman bought and paid for by these
>>special interests.  Do we?"
>>
>>What made this brochure particularly offensive was the fact that 
>>Cunningham's campaign listed contributors to Ghougassian with Arabic
>>sounding last names, all of whom were in fact U.S. citizens, and
>>included the National Association of Arab Americans (NAAA).
>>Ghougassian, an Egyptian-born Armenian and naturalized U.S. citizen,
>>lost the primary race against Cunningham who, with AIPAC's support,
>>went on to win a seat in the 102nd Congress.
>>
>>Lewis reports that AIPAC also "provided Steve Emerson with information
>>
>>on Alexander Cockburn."  That followed a heated exchange between 
>>Israel-apologist Emerson and frequent critic of Israel Cockburn on the
>>
>>editorial page of _The Wall Street Journal_ in May 1990. Emerson
>>attacked Cockburn for his "financial agenda."
>>
>>"It ought to be remembered," Emerson wrote, "that several years ago
>>Mr. Cockburn secretly took $10,000 from an organization that had been
>>funded primarily by the governments of Iraq and Libya and by a bank
>>known as the PLO's bank."
>>
>>Emerson's charge was based on a story which had appeared in a weekly 
>>alternative newspaper, _The Boston Phoenix_, on Jan. 10, 1984.  _The
>>Phoenix_ reported that Cockburn received in 1982 a $10,000 grant from
>>the now defunct Institute of Arab Studies to write a book on the
>>Israeli invasion of Lebanon and, because Cockburn did not inform them,
>>editors of the _Village Voice_ "indefinitely suspended" him due to
>>"appearance of conflict [of interest] and nondisclosure."
>>
>>Not surprisingly, AIPAC was the source of the original _Phoenix_ story
>>
>>as well as Emerson's attack based on it in _The Wall Street Journal_.
>>Alan Lupo, _The Boston Phoenix_ reporter who broke the story back in
>>1984, said AIPAC had told him the Institute for Arab Studies was
>>"linked to a $100 million campaign to sway U.S. policy against
>>Israel."  In fact, the Institute had U.S. tax-exempt status and listed
>>individual contributors within the United States until it closed down
>>in 1983 due to a lack of funds.
>>
>>Deploring the AIPAC-generated "misinformation," editor David 
>>Schneiderman of the _Village Voice_ wrote on Jan. 24, 1984: "What
>>Cockburn did not do was take money from an 'Arab propaganda group.'
>>Moreover he was not 'bought'--he clearly received the grant because of
>>views he already firmly held. The _Phoenix_ offered no evidence that
>>the Institute [of Arab Studies] is anything more than what it purports
>>to be. And despite the reporter's clumsy attempt to say so, Arab does
>>not always equal Palestinian which does not always equal terrorist.
>>His unquestioned adoption of claims by the Anti-Defamation League and
>>the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, hardly disinterested
>>parties, is poor journalism."
>>
>>Even _The Wall Street Journal_, a newspaper with a demonstrated 
>>pro-Israel editorial bias, questioned the AIPAC-originated charges. In
>>a Jan. 13, 1984 editorial, _WSJ_ editor Robert Bartley wrote: "Among
>>all the things I can imagine Alex doing, this one seems fairly
>>innocuous... On all this we have no opinion, except that even Arabs
>>should enjoy freedom of speech."
>>
>> _The Wall Street Journal_ continued to run Cockburn's monthly column 
>>opposite the editorial page. Said the _Journal_, tongue only partly in
>>cheek, "We hired him because of his biases, which we're sure are
>>totally incorruptible."
>>
>>In both of the cases cited, AIPAC attempted to discredit critics of 
>>Israel not by refuting their arguments, but by trying to tie them to
>>Arab money. Making an Arab connection can damage the victim's
>>reputation, the pro-Israel lobby believes, so long as it can encourage
>>a mindset in the United States that anything Arab-related is tainted.
>>
>>Ironically, it is precisely the same kind of racist stereotype to
>>which the Jewish community is so sensitive, particularly the charge
>>that Jews exert tremendous influence through the use of their money.
>>Jewish organizations can and do talk about the power of "Arab money"
>>and "petro-dollars," yet are quick to decry as anti-Semitic similar
>>innuendo regarding Jewish financing.
>>
>>In another case, AIPAC executive director Dine asked Lewis to analyze 
>>the positions of Brookings Institution Middle East specialist Judith
>>Kipper. In an Aug. 17, 1990 memo, Lewis responded: "For the most part,
>>Kipper is extremely skillful in her writings and statements to avoid
>>being pinned down as 'anti-Israel.'  She often achieves her goals by
>>presenting the views of 'moderate Israelis' to state her case."
>>
>>In _The New Republic_, and ardently pro-Israel magazine, writer David 
>>Segal put a more positive spin on Kipper's views in its March 25, 1991
>>issue: 
>>
>>"Her analysis throughout the Gulf crisis said little about the
>>politics of the Middle East, but a great deal about the politics of
>>Judith Kipper. It's not that she's anti-Israel -- her criticism would
>>put her not far from the center of the Israeli Labor Party -- or that
>>she is pro-Arab. Rather, her politics stem from an unwavering
>>quasi-religious faith in the power of dialogue."
>>
>>There is no greater admission of guilt and wrongdoing than AIPAC's 
>>strenuous attempts to conceal its blacklisting activities. Senior
>>AIPAC officials fear that public outrage might follow disclosure of
>>their covert activities. The name change from "Opposition Research" to
>>"Policy Analysis" was designed to conceal AIPAC's surveillance,
>>monitoring, and intelligence-gathering operations. In an Aug 7, 1990
>>internal memorandum to Steve Rosen, AIPAC Foreign Policy Issues
>>director, Lewis boasted: 
>>
>>"There is no question that we exert a policy impact, but working
>>behind the scenes and taking care not to leave fingerprints, that
>>impact is not always traceable to us."
>>
>>As part of its intelligence-gathering operation, Policy Analysis has 
>>created a fictional person and a bogus company to infiltrate opposing 
>>organizations by paying membership dues or making donations to them.
>>This AIPAC creation is "Paul Hunt" of "Paul Hunt & Associates."  AIPAC
>>rents a post office box on Capitol Hill for Mr. Hunt's mail, and has
>>installed a separate Paul Hunt telephone line in the AIPAC office.
>>"Paul Hunt" has even been listed as a donor to the _Washington Report
>>on Middle East Affairs_. 
>>
>>Secret _Activities_
>>
>>Nowhere is secrecy more meticulously applied than to the production
>>and distribution of _Activities_, the weekly AIPAC publication which
>>disseminates information on individuals and organizations critical of
>>Israel or Israeli policies. Although _Activities_ is the most visible
>>product of its Policy Analysis section, AIPAC takes great pains to
>>hide its connection with _Activities_, in order to avoid the
>>controversy that arose over its blacklisting of "enemies" in its 1983
>>publication of _The Campaign to 
>>
>>
>>Discredit Israel_.
>>
>>
>> _Activities_' select and tightly controlled recipients are encouraged
>>to use the material as they see fit, "subject only to the provision
>>that AIPAC not be attributed as its source."  _Activities_ is
>>distributed to AIPAC's Washington and regional staff, its officers,
>>the major Jewish organizational leaders, Jewish Federations and
>>Community Relations Councils around the nation, pro-Israel activists
>>and academics.
>>
>>It also goes to the Israeli Embassy in Washington and to other
>>Israelis both in the U.S. and in Israel. AIPAC employees are not
>>permitted to take _Activities_ out of the office and may not mention
>>the existence of _Activities_ outside AIPAC's walls. A disquieting
>>breach of security was revealed at the 1990 national convention of the
>>American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) when that
>>organization's president, Abdeen Jabara, referred casually to having
>>received an AIPAC study entitled 
>>
>>
>>_Activities_.
>>
>>
>>Assessing the problem, Lewis wrote in an April 2, 1990 memorandum to 
>>Dine: "_Activities_ is distributed to some 400+ people, so it will
>>probably be impossible to trace the source of this leak. There is
>>nothing in _Activities_ which points to who is its originator and it
>>is sent out in plain envelopes, so the material obviously did not just
>>accidentally get passed on to ADC. This is the first time that any of
>>these groups have made any reference to their being in receipt of
>>_Activities_."
>>
>>Information contained in _Activities_ has been used by the National 
>>Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC), American Jewish 
>>Congress (AJC), Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), Committee for
>>Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), National Jewish
>>Coalition (NJC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security
>>Affairs (JINSA).
>>
>>According to Lewis: "Because _Activities_ is read by many of the major
>>
>>Jewish and pro-Israel organizational players, _Activities_ ensures
>>that there is a cognizance of the activities of the anti-Israel forces
>>both in Washington and the grassroots and the issues on which they are
>>focusing.
>>
>>Ultimately, of all the information disseminated from AIPAC,
>>_Activities_ may well be the most eagerly sought, read and used to
>>good advantage."
>>
>>One of the ways that this information was "used to good advantage" was
>>
>>in a 1990 American Jewish Congress fund-raising letter. It accused
>>Executive Director James Zogby of the Arab American Institute of "the
>>new anti-Semitism" (criticism of Israeli policies) and compared him
>>with white supremacist David Duke and black nationalist Rev. Louis
>>Farrakhan because Zogby criticized pro-Israel political action
>>committees. No sources were given in the letter for quotations
>>attributed to Zogby.
>>
>>When Zogby protested, AJC Executive Director Henry Siegman, whose name
>>
>>appeared at the bottom of the letter, denied prior knowledge of the
>>mailing and blamed overzealous fund-raisers for its wording.
>>_Washington Post_ columnist Richard Cohen wrote in an Oct. 3, 1990,
>>column, "There's no doubt in my mind that the American Jewish
>>Congress' letter writers went off half-cocked -- and without Siegman's
>>knowledge. "It might surprise Cohen to know that Siegman, not AJC's
>>fund-raisers, is one of the select recipients of AIPAC's _Activities_,
>>from which every one of the quotes attributed to Zogby had been taken.
>>
>>Nor, after publication of Cohen's article, was it some unnamed "letter
>>
>>writer" but Siegman, personally, who contacted AIPAC's Michael Lewis
>>for help in trying to build a case that Zogby was indeed an
>>"anti-Semite."  Lewis faxed an AIPAC "living memo" of Zogby's
>>statements, actions and affiliations to Siegman in New York.
>>
>>"I hope this information is of help," Lewis wrote on the cover sheet. 
>>
>>"The compilation as such should not be sent to Richard Cohen, and the 
>>information should not be attributed to AIPAC."
>>
>>Writing in the _Village Voice_ on Jan. 22, 1991, Nat Hentoff argued
>>that the AJC letter had "resurrected the spirit of Joe McCarthy."
>>Hentoff also quoted Zogby's reaction to his own personal ordeal with
>>neo-McCarthyism: 
>>
>>"When the ADL and AIPAC falsely and maliciously labeled me a
>>'terrorist member of the PLO' speaking engagements were canceled,
>>political candidates refused to associate with me, and my family and I
>>were harassed and threatened with violence. Now, I know that ADL and
>>AIPAC were not involved in the harassment or the violence -- but
>>vilification and scurrilous attacks of the sort they indulged in can
>>create the atmosphere in which ugly actions can occur."
>>
>>Siegman never apologized to Zogby for the actions of his "overzealous 
>>fund-raisers."
>>
>>
>> Disingenuous Disclaiming
>>
>>
>>AIPAC is careful never to advocate specific actions to be taken
>>against individuals and organizations named in _Activities_. In fact,
>>it puts on the front cover of every edition the disingenuous
>>disclaimer that "the inclusion of material in _Activities_ implies
>>neither endorsement nor criticism of any group."  By distributing
>>derogatory allegations about critics of Israel, however, AIPAC in
>>effect tells pro-Israel activists, "Here are the people who are your
>>enemies -- now go out and do something about it!"
>>
>>AIPAC's Policy Analysis section works closely with its college liaison
>>department, the Political Leadership Development Program (PLDP). When
>>AIPAC is informed of an upcoming speech by an "anti-Israel"
>>personality, summaries of that person's standard arguments,
>>question-and-answer style, and a list of possibly damaging quotations
>>are sent to pro-Israel activists at the host institution, who also are
>>asked to send tapes or accounts of the speech back to AIPAC. AIPAC
>>also draws up questions for "plants" in the audience, and suggests
>>other strategies suited to the particular venue.
>>
>>Typical of this kind of preparation was a confidential memo sent in
>>1985 to AIPAC opposition researcher Anna Gottlieb by AIPAC regional
>>director Murray Wood in Los Angeles. For an October 20th "Conference
>>on Peace With Justice in the Middle East" at Mira Costa College,
>>arrangements were made to "monitor the conference...have a corps of
>>'our' people in the audience, well-trained and briefed...call a
>>meeting with the local ADL and American Jewish Committee directors to
>>develop a coordinated strategy...(and provide) background material" on
>>the speakers.
>>
>>Human rights activist Noam Chomsky, a linguistics professor at 
>>Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described the ADL file compiled
>>on him: "It's just like an FBI file -- 150 pages of material, clips
>>from newspapers and inter-office memos saying I was going to show up
>>at this or that place, surveillance of talks I have given,
>>characterization of what was said in the talks [often falsified]. All
>>this material goes into a central source. Then when I give a talk
>>somewhere, my file will be given to the appropriate local group, who
>>will be able to dig through it, and come up with statements that I
>>allegedly made at some time during the last 15 years to be publicized
>>in unsigned pamphlets."
>>
>>Under lock and key in the office of Michael Lewis are literally
>>hundreds and hundreds of such files on people and organizations that
>>AIPAC deems to be "anti-Israel."  Among politicians upon whom such
>>files exist are former Bush administration White House Chief of Staff
>>John Sununu, former Reagan administration secretaries of defense
>>Caspar Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former President Jimmy Carter
>>and former Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern, Senate
>>Minority Leader Robert Dole, Republican Senate John Chafee, House
>>Majority Whip David Bonior, and Democratic Representatives John
>>Conyers, John Dingell, Mervyn Dymally, Mary Rose Oakar, Nick Joe
>>Rahall, James Traficant and many others.
>>
>> The largest file that AIPAC keeps on any single person is that of 
>>District of Columbia "Shadow Senator" Jesse Jackson. While AIPAC's 
>>surveillance and monitoring is mostly confined to an individual's 
>>professional statements and activities, in Jackson's case, AIPAC was
>>caught venturing into personal innuendo. As revealed by CBS' "60
>>Minutes," an internal AIPAC memorandum dated Nov. 3, 1987 proposed
>>generating media interest in allegations that Jackson had extramarital
>>affairs.
>>
>>AIPAC also maintains files on what it characterizes as "anti-Israel" 
>>journalists to stifle open media discussion on the Middle East. AIPAC 
>>maintains files on Peter Jennings, Mike Wallace, Patrick Buchanan,
>>Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, Thomas Friedman, Anthony Lewis,
>>Richard Cohen, Carl Rowan, Alexander Cockburn and Joseph Sobran, among
>>others.
>>
>>Reminiscent of Senator Joe McCarthy's scouring of Hollywood for 
>>"communists," and their "fellow travelers" in the entertainment
>>industry, AIPAC also has opened files on Ed Asner, Woody Allen,
>>Richard Dreyfus, Vanessa Redgrave, Casey Kasem, Mike Farrell, Barbra
>>Streisand, Michael Moore, Peter Yarrow, and many more.
>>
>> 
>>"Have You No Shame?"
>>
>>
>> In the spring of 1954, a nationwide audience watching the televised
>>Army-McCarthy hearings sat transfixed as Boston attorney Joseph Welch
>>stood to demand of Senator McCarthy, "Sir, have you no shame?"  Only
>>after that dramatic confrontation, pictured over and over as
>>intimidated journalists and politicians finally dared to speak out,
>>did the shadow of "McCarthyism" slowly recede from American public
>>life.
>> 
>>Today, some Jewish organizations finally are asking that same question
>>of the Israel lobby. Two years ago, several local Jewish community
>>relations organizations issued a statement condemning an attack by the
>>hard-line Americans For A Safe Israel (AFSI) against the New Israel
>>Fund (NIF).
>> 
>>This local initiative inspired a resolution adopted nationally by the
>>National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC)
>>condemning the "McCarthy-like" tactics used by some Jewish
>>organizations. The resolution proposed guidelines for dealing with
>>"the right of dissent" on Israeli policies, and emphasized the
>>importance of open and thoughtful exchange in an atmosphere of "mutual
>>tolerance and civility."  However, while NJCRAC denounced such fringe
>>groups as AFSI, it failed to address the problem of neo-McCarthyism
>>within more mainstream Jewish organizations.
>>
>>AIPAC and ADL must be held accountable by the organized American
>>Jewish community for their blacklisting and smear tactics and for the
>>climate of hatred and repression they have created. Let American
>>Jewish organizations demand that AIPAC stop circulation of its
>>blacklists and destroy the files it keeps on the "enemies of Israel."
>>
>>Only if Americans refuse to be silenced by false charges of hatred and
>>racism can there be free and open debate on U.S. policy in the Middle
>>East.  
>>
>>And only through such debate will the U.S. be able to contribute
>>toward a lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict.
>>
>>[Gregory D. Slabodkin, a free-lance writer in Washington, DC, was an
>>opposition researcher for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee
>>(AIPAC) in 1990 and 1991.]
>>
>>Call the American Educational Trust TOLL-FREE at 1-800-368-5788 or
>>write: American Educational Trust P.O. Box 53062 Washington, DC 20009
>>
>> NOTE: They may still be giving out free sample copies of _The
>>Washington Report on Middle East Affairs_.  Ask for one!   * END
>>
>>
>>
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>>http://www.natvan.com
>>
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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:56:26 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:04:59 -0500, "Shabati..Zvi Äbuishneineh"
> wrote:
>
>>SJAFAR@newsnet., new wrote:
>>> 
>>> Investigators reportedly have opened several graves of Yemenite Jewish
>>> babies and found them to be empty - a discovery that might support
>>> claims that Yemenite children were taken from their parents for adoption
>>> decades ago.
>>> 
>>> For years, Yemenite activists have claimed hundreds of babies declared
>>> dead were actually given to adoptive parents of European descent. If the
>>> claims are true, it could further sour relations between Middle Eastern
>>> and European Jews in Israel.
>>> 
>>> The four graves at Tel Aviv's Givat Shaul cemetery were opened last
>>> Wednesday as part of an official investigation, with a rabbi and family
>>> members present.
>>> 
>>> Wooden signs over the empty graves bore the names Ruthie Babu, Ruthie
>>> Cohen, Reuven Rafaelo and Moshe Mishraki, Israel TV reported Saturday.
>>> All were hospitalized when only a few months old. Their parents never
>>> saw them again, nor did they see a body or a death certificate.
>>> 
>>> ``Now there is no doubt that this was an affair of planned fraud in
>>> which funerals were staged and evidence was falsified,'' said Ora
>>> Shifris, a spokesman for the Yemenite families.
>>> 
>>> Hundreds of children disappeared during the mass immigration of Yemenite
>>> Jews in the early 1950s, when the immigrants were housed in tent camps.
>>> Camp officials and medical staff denied any wrongdoing, saying there was
>>> chaos in the camps, where many babies were sickly and died.
>>> 
>>> Two other commissions have investigated the affair, but many families
>>> dismissed their inconclusive findings.
>>> 
>>> In 1994, radical Yemenite activist Uzi Meshulam and a group of armed
>>> followers barricaded themselves in a house in Tel Aviv for six weeks to
>>> press demands for a new inquiry. One of the followers was killed in a
>>> shootout with police, and Meshulam is serving a 6  1/2-year prison term.
>>> But the confrontation created a furor that led to the current
>>> commission, which has subpoena powers.
>>> 
>>> Israel's 4.7 million Jews are roughly evenly divided between those of
>>> Middle Eastern and European descent, but the latter have always been
>>> dominant economically and socially.
>>
>>
>>Mr. Jafar.
>>1. The number of children exceeded the thousands, not hundreds.
>>2. Most of the low Paige and menial jobs are given to Arab Jews.
>>3. For economic reasons, most of the prostitutes in Israel are underage
>>Yemenites (and now Russian) Jewish little girls.
>>4. Rejecting the blood of the African Jews (the Falasha) is just on of
>>the facet of the fascist Zionist life. The Falasha Jews are prohibited
>>from performing marriages and funeral. Only Aryan Jews are allowed to do
>>that besides some Arab Jews who had to (convert) to Judaism, the Aryan
>>style.



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On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:31:02 -0600, "Bassam Kouatli"
 wrote:

>Zionism and the Holocaust
>
>
>
>Haim Bresheeth, in RETURN, March 1989
>The first point to note regarding the appropriation of the history of the
>Holocaust by Zionist propaganda is that Zionism without anti-Semitism is
>impossible. Zionism agrees with the basic tenet of anti-Semitism, namely
>that Jews cannot live with non-Jews.
>The history and roots of the Holocaust go back a long way. While the
>industry of death and destruction did not operate before 1942, its roots
>were firmly placed in the 19th Century. Jewish aspirations for emancipation
>emerged out of the national struggles in Europe. When the hopes for
>liberation through bourgeois-democratic change were dashed, other
>alternatives for improving the lot of the Jews of Europe achieved
>prominence.
>
>The socialist Bund, a mass movement with enormous following, had to contend
>with opposition from a new and small, almost insignificant opponent, the
>political Zionists. In outline these two offered diametrically opposed
>options for Jews in Europe. While the Bund was suggesting joining forces
>with the rest of Europe's workers, the Zionists were proposing a new
>programme aimed at ridding Europe of its Jews by setting up some form of a
>Jewish state.
>
>Historically, nothing is inevitable, all depends on the balance of forces
>involved in the struggle. History can be seen as an option tree: every time
>a certain option is chosen, other routes become barred. Because of that
>choice, movement backwards to the point before that choice was mad is
>impossible. While Zionism as an option was taken by many young Jews, it
>remained a minority position until the first days of the 3rd Reich. The
>Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a tiny
>minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to represent
>the Jews of the Reich. Its was the only flag of an international
>organisation allowed to fly in Berlin, and this was the only international
>organisation allowed to operate during this period. From a marginal
>position, the leaders of the Zionist Federation were propelled to a
>prominence and centrality that surprised even them. All of a sudden they
>attained political power, power based not on representation, but from being
>selected as the choice of the Nazi regime for dealing with the 'Jewish
>problem'. Their position in negotiating with the Nazis agreements that
>affected the lives of many tens of thousands of the Jews in Germany
>transformed them from a utopian, marginal organisation in Germany (and some
>other countries in Europe) into a real option to be considered by German
>Jews.
>
>The best example of this was the 'Transfer Agreement' of 1934. Immediately
>after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
>organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi
>regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way disabling
>the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
>out, the campaign would collapse.
>
>This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as
>early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
>two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the
>'Jewish problem', and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:
>
>The realisation of Zionism could only be hurt by resentment of Jews abroad
>against the German development. Boycott propaganda - such as is currently
>being carried on against Germany in many ways - is in essence unZionist,
>because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and build...
>
>In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the
>Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
>was the signature of the 'Transfer Agreement' with the Nazi authorities
>during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed
>to get Germany's Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It
>provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property
>out of the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
>right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis - ED).
>The Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
>organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts 'helping' Jews
>to leave the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German
>goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the
>regime to be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies,
>the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now
>the Jews come and agree with them.
>
>After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist
>Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
>import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first
>time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
>public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish
>Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to
>Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
>Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
>favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the 'new Jew' of Zionism, a
>Jew Nazis could accept and understand.
>
>This little-known episode established quite clearly the relationship during
>the early days of Nazism, between the new regime and the ZVfD, a
>relationship that was echoed later in a number of key instances, even after
>the nature of the Final Solution became clear. In many cases this meant a
>silencing of reports about the horrors of the exterminations. A book
>concentrating on this aspect of the Zionist reaction to the Holocaust is
>Post-Ugandan Zionism in the Crucible of the Holocaust, by S.B. Beth-Zvi.
>
>In the case of the Kastner episode, around which Jim Allen's play PERDITION
>is based, even the normal excuse of lack of knowledge of the real nature of
>events does not exist. It occurred near the end of the war. The USSR had
>advanced almost up to Germany. Italy and the African bases had been lost.
>The Nazis were on the run, with a number of key countries, such as Rumania,
>leaving the Axis. A second front was a matter of months away, as the western
>Allies prepared their forces. In the midst of all this we find Eichmann, the
>master bureaucrat of industrial murder, setting up is HQ in occupied
>Budapest, after the German takeover of the country in April 1944. His first
>act was to have a conference with the Jewish leadership, and to appoint
>Zionist Federation members, headed by Kastner, as the agent and clearing
>house for all Jews in their relationship with the SS and Nazi authorities.
>Why they did this is not difficult to see. As opposed to Poland, where its
>three and half million Jews lived in ghettoes and were visible different
>from the rest of the Polish population, the Hungarian Jews were in
>integrated part of the community. The middle class was mainly Jewish, the
>Jews were mainly middle class. They enjoyed freedom of travel, served in the
>Hungarian (fascist) army in frontline units, as officers and soldiers, their
>names were Hungarian - how was Eichmann to find them if they were to be
>exterminated ? The task was not easy, there were a million Jews in Hungary,
>most of them resident, the rest being refugees from other countries. Many
>had heard about the fate of Jews elsewhere, and were unlikely to believe any
>statements by Nazi officials.
>
>Like elsewhere, the only people who had the information and the ear of the
>frightened Jewish population were the Judenrat. In this case the Judenrat
>comprised mainly the Zionist Federation members. Without their help the SS,
>with 19 officers and less than 90 men, plus a few hundred Hungarian police,
>could not have collected and controlled a million Jews, when they did not
>even know their whereabouts. Kastner and the others were left under no
>illusions. Eichmann told Joel Brand, one of the members of Kastner's
>committee, that he intended to send all Hungary's Jews to Auschwitz, before
>he even started the expulsions! He told them clearly that all these Jews
>will die, 12,000 a day, unless certain conditions were met.
>
>The Committee faced a simple choice - to tell the Jews of Hungary about
>their fate, (with neutral Rumania, where many could escape, being in most
>cases a few hours away) or to collaborate with the Nazis by assisting in the
>concentration process. What would not have been believed when coming from
>the SS, sounded quite plausible when coming from the mouths of the Zionist
>leadership. Thus it is, that most of the Hungarian Jews went quietly to
>their death, assured by their leadership that they were sent to work camps.
>
>To be sure, there are thirty pieces of silver in this narrative of
>destruction: the trains of 'prominents' which Eichmann promised to Kastner -
>a promise he kept to the last detail. For Eichmann it was a bargain:
>allowing 1,680 Jews to survive, as the price paid for the silent
>collaboration over the death of almost a million Jews.
>
>There was no way in which the Jews of Hungary could even be located, not to
>say murdered, without the full collaboration of Kastner and his few friends.
>No doubt the SS would hunt a few Jews here and there, but the scale of the
>operation would have been minuscule compared to the half million who died in
>Auschwitz.
>
>It is important to realise that Kastner was not an aberration, like say
>Rumkovky in Lodz. Kastner acted as a result of his strongly held Zionist
>convictions. His actions were a logical outcome of earlier positions. This
>is instanced when he exposed to the Gestapo the existence of a British cell
>of saboteurs, Palgi and Senesh, and persuaded them to give themselves up, so
>as not to disrupt his operations. At no point during his trial or elsewhere,
>did Kastner deny that he knew exactly what was to happen to those Jews.
>
>To conclude, the role played by Zionists in this period, was connected to
>another role they could, and should have played, that of alarming the whole
>world to what was happening in Europe. They had the information, but
>politically it was contrary to their priorities. The priorities were, and
>still are, quite simple: All that furthers the Zionist enterprise in
>Palestine is followed, whatever the price. The lives of individuals, Jews
>and non-Jews, are secondary. If this process requires dealing with fascists,
>Nazis and other assorted dictatorial regimes across the world, so be it.
>
>
>
>You'll find more at: http://www.alquds.org/palestine/
>
>
>



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On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:23:57 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:42:30 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:25:17 -0700, Chuck Ferree 
>>wrote:
>>>The post re alleged criminal acts by Jews,
>
>>>The Zionists, and other Jewish leaders
>>> obviously made a decision
>>>they would have to take drastic measures themselves
>>> the Jewish leaders went on the offensive.
>>>Some of the things they did were violent,  they should not be condemmed
>>>nor criticized
>
>>>              ZIONIST HEROES - WAR CRIMINALS!!!!
>>>        Date: 
>>>              Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:16:05 GMT
>>>       From: 
>>>              someone@somewhere.com
>>
>>>
>>>And don't  forget the genocide of the unarmed civilians at the Q'ana
>>>refugee camp by the damn Israelis.
>>
>>>CHUCK:>>>>And don't forget the hundreds or thousands of years people of
>>>the Jewish Faith have been kicked around by just about every country on
>>>earth.
>>
>>
>>From all the hsitorical documents, the Christkillers deserved what
>>they received, nicht wahr???
>
>
>And don't forget the murders of the UN troops in Lebanon by the JEWS;
>
>And don't  forget the genocide of the unarmed civilians at the Q'ana
>refugee camp by the damn Israelis.
>
>
>On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:17:05 -0700, Clancy
> wrote:
>
>>someone@somewhere.com wrote:
> 
>>> And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>>> Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>>> gangster!!!
>
>
>>Zionist  terrorist acts from 1939-1996 - part I
>
>>1939 
>>Haganah blew up the Iraqi oil pipeline near Haifa palestine. Moshe Dayan was one of 
>>the participant in this act. The technique was used again in 1947 at least 4 times.
>
>>August 20, 1937-June 29, 1939
>>During this period, Zionist carrtied out a series of attacks against Arab buses, 
>>resulting in the seath of 24 persons and wonding 25 others. They are the Master of 
>>killing people on buses.
>
>>Nov.25, 1940
>>S.S. Patria blown up by Jewish Terrorists in Haifa Harbor, Killing 268 illegal Jewish 
>>immigrants.
>
>>Nov. 6 1944
>>Zionist Terrorist of Stern gang* assassinated the British Minister Resident in the 
>>Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
>
>>July 22, 1946
>>Zionist Terrorist blew up the King david Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central 
>>offices of the civilian administarion of the Governemnt of Palestine, Killing and 
>>injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun gangs claimed responsibility for this 
>>criminal act, but subsequentevidence indicated that boith the Haganah and the Jewish 
>>Agency were involved.
>
>>October 1, 1946
>>The british Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by a bomb explosions, for which Irgun 
>>cliam responsibility.
>
>>June 1947
>>Letters sent to British Cabnit Minister were found to contain Bombs.
>
>>September 3, 1947
>>A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting 
>>room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs.( The  
>>Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8
>
>>December 11, 1947
>>Six Arabs were kiled and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab 
>>buses in haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and anothers injured in an attack by armed 
>>Zionist on Arab coastal village near Haifa.
>
>>Dec. 13 1947
>>Zionist terrorist believed to be memeber of Irgun Zvia Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and 
>>wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda Area. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown 
>>in an Arab market-place near Damascus Gate; in Jaffa bombs were thrown into an Arab 
>>cafe; in the Arab village of Al Yahudia near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack 
>>with mortars and automatic weapons.
>
>>Dec. 19, 1947
>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the 
>>ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah 
>>admitted responsibility for the attack.
>
>>Dec. 29, 1947
>>Two British contables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus 
>>Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun Jews threw a bomb from a taxi.
>
>>Dec. 30, 1947
>>A mixed forces of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village 
>>of Ballad al Shaikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.
>
>>1947-1948
>>Over 700,000 Plaestine Arabs were uprooted from their beloved homes and land in 
>>Palestine; since than have been denied the right to return or been given compensation 
>>for their property. After their expolsion, the "Zionist Israel terrorist Armies" 
>>razed to the ground 385 Arabs villages ad towns out of a total of 475, ands 
>>oblitrated their remains. These Are "The GOD Chosen People" who commit murder in the 
>>name of Judiasm.
>
>>January 1, 1948
>>Haganah terrorists attacked attacked a village on the slop of mount Camel; 17 Arabs 
>>were killed and 33 were wounded.
>
>>January 4, 1948
>>Haganah terrorist wearing British Army Uniform penetrated into the center of Jaffa 
>>and blew up the Serai(the old Turkish Governemnt House) which was used as a 
>>headqaurter of the Arab national Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 
>>98 others.
>
>>January 5, 1948 
>>The Arab-owned semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blowm up, killing 20 persons, among 
>>them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this 
>>outrage.
>
>>January 7, 1948
>>seventeen Arabs were kjilled by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them 
>>while trying to escape. further casualties, including the murder of a British officer 
>>near Hebron, were reported from different part of the country.
>
>>Jan. 16, 1948
>>Zionists blew up three Arabs building. in the first, 8 children between the ages of 
>>18 month and 12 years, died.
>
>>Dec. 13, 1947- February 10, 1948
>>seven incident of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilian in cafe and markets, killing 
>>138 and wounding 271 others. during this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. 
>>Zionist mind passenger trains on at least 4 occasions killing 93 persons and wounding 
>>161 others.
>
>>Feb. 15 1948
>>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, 
>>killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.
>
>>March 3, 1948
>>Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa(a 7 story block of 
>>flat and shops) by zionist who drove an army lorry uo to the building and escaped 
>>before the detonation of 400 lb. of explosive; casualties numbered 11 Arabs ans 3 
>>Armanians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Jewish Gang claimed responsibility of the 
>>crime.
>
>>March 22, 1948
>>A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 
>>others. Four memeber of the Stern Jewish Gang drove two lorry-loaded of explosive 
>>into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosive.
>
>>March 31, 1948
>>The Cairo_Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month by an 
>>electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 
>>others.
>
>>April 9, 1948
>>A combined forces of Irgun Zvai Leumi and ther Stern Jewish Gang, supported by the 
>>Palmach forces captured the Arab village of Deir Yassine and killed than 200 unarmed 
>>civilians, including countless women and childern. Older men and young women were and 
>>paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were than 
>>shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
>
>>April 16, 1948
>>Zionist attacked the former British army camp at tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs 
>>there.
>
>>April 19 1948
>>Fourteen arabs were killed in a hous in Tiberias which was blown up by Zionist 
>>terrorist Jews.
>
>>May 11, 1948
>>A letter Bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Baker, former commanding Officer in Plaestine, 
>>was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
>
>>April 25, 1948- may 13, 1948
>>Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and 
>>Haganah Terrorist Jews. They stripped and carried away everything they could, 
>>destroying what they could not take with them.
>
>>Sept. 17 1948
>>Count Folk Bernadotte, UN Mediator in Palestine was assassinated by memeber of the 
>>Stern Jewish Gang in the Zionist controlled sector of Jerusalem. Bernadotte's aide 
>>Col. serot was also killed and murdered by Jewish terrorist.
>
>>Nov. 1948
>>The Arab village of Iqrit and Birim were attacked and destroyed, killing and injuring 
>>countless unarmed Arabs, including women and children. All the Arabs were forcibly 
>>expelled from their homes and mother land Palestine, Know today as the artificial 
>>state of zionist Israel.
>
>
>sven88



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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:57:56 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:50:06 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On 20 Oct 1998 14:46:50 GMT, "firefly" 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>THE CROSS IS NOBODY BUSSINESS< IT IS ON  POLAND LAND
>>>POLAND HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT WHAT THEY WANT  INSIDE
>>>IN THEIR COUNTRY.THIS IS INTERNAL AFFAIR   < IT IS NOT AOUR
>>>AFFAIR.COMPRENDE!!!!
>>
>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>>>
>>>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>>>By Sean Maguire
>>>>Sept. 14, 1998
>>>
>>>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>>>
>>>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>>>sensitive site. 
>>>
>>>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>>>groups. 
>>>
>>>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>>>
>>>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>>>site inevitable. 
>>>
>>>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>>>
>>>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>>>
>>>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>>>
>>>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>>>
>>>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>>>
>>>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>>>and nationalists. 
>>>
>>>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>>>forgotten. 
>>>
>>>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>>>be removed. 
>>>>
>>>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>>>
>>>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>>>
>>>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>>>the moment.'' 
>>>
>>>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>>>
>>>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>>>
>>>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>>>international funding, are on hold. 
>>>
>>>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>>>
>>>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>>>
>>>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>>>
>>>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>>>
>>>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>>>
>>>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>>>
>>>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>>>
>>>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>>>Jewish community.
>>



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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:33:37 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On 19 Oct 1998 12:07:17 GMT, deppitybob@aol.compugeek (DeppityBob)
>wrote:
>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>>Hitler's Jewish Army
>>>
>>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>>>speaking of World War Two.
>>>
>>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing what
>>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>>
>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>>'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf
>>>Hitler's knowledge and approval.
>>>
>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including
>>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to
>>>100,000 troops."
>>>
>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>>Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's
>>>Cross.
>>>
>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>>
>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish
>>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>>
>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew
>>>and who is an Aryan.''
>>>
>>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>>
>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>>
>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>>(kapos).
>>>
>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>
>>>Sources:
>>>
>>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>>
>>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>>
>
>>From the World According to Alex came:
>>
>>
>>
>>Don't tell me, Fred Leuchter, right? Is this supposed to make me throw up
>>again?
>>
>>
>>Dep  
>>
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>"MY SCREENNAME IS LEGION!"
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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On Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:26:24 -0400, "Dan Parker"
 wrote:

>Traffickers' New Cargo:
>Naive Slavic Women
>By MICHAEL SPECTER
>
>Ramle, Israel—Irina always assumed that her beauty would somehow rescue her
>from the poverty and hopelessness of village life. A few months ago, after
>answering a vague ad in a small Ukrainian newspaper, she slipped off a tour
>boat when it put in at Haifa, hoping to make a bundle dancing naked on the
>tops of tables.
>
>She was 21, self-assured and glad to be out of Ukraine. Israel offered a new
>world, and for a week or two everything seemed possible. Then, one morning,
>she was driven to a brothel, where her boss burned her passport before her
>eyes.
>
>“I own you,” she recalled his saying. “You are my property, and you will
>work until you earn your way out. Don’t try to leave. You have no papers and
>you don’t speak Hebrew. You will be arrested and deported. Then we will get
>you and bring you back.”
>
>It happens every single day. Not just in Israel, which has deported nearly
>1,500 Russian and Ukrainian women like Irina in the past three years. But
>throughout the world, where selling naive and desperate young women into
>sexual bondage has become one of the fastest-growing criminal enterprises in
>the robust global economy.
>
>The international bazaar for women is hardly new, of course. Asians have
>been its basic commodity for decades. But economic hopelessness in the
>Slavic world has opened what experts call the most lucrative market of all
>to criminal gangs that have flourished since the fall of Communism: Eastern
>European women with little to sustain them but their dreams. Pimps, law-
>enforcement officials and relief groups all agree that Ukrainian and Russian
>women are now the most valuable in the trade.
>
>Because their immigration is often illegal—and because some percentage of
>the women choose to work as prostitutes—statistics are difficult to assess.
>But the United Nations estimates that 4 million people throughout the world
>are trafficked each year—forced through lies and coercion to work against
>their will in many types of servitude. The International Organization for
>Migration has said that as many as 500,000 women are annually trafficked
>into Western Europe alone.
>
>Many end up like Irina. Stunned and outraged by the sudden order to
>prostitute herself, she simply refused. She was beaten and raped before she
>succumbed. Finally she got a break. The brothel was raided, and she was
>brought here to Neve Tirtsa in Ramle, the only women’s prison in Israel.
>Now, like hundreds of Ukrainian and Russian women with no documents or
>obvious forgeries, she is waiting to be sent home.
>
>“I don’t think the man who ruined my life will even be fined,” she said
>softly, slow tears filling her enormous green eyes. “You can call me a fool
>for coming here. That’s my crime. I am stupid. A stupid girl from a little
>village. But can people really buy and sell women and get away with it?
>Sometimes I sit here and ask myself if that really happened to me, if it can
>really happen at all.”
>
>Then, waving her arm toward the muddy prison yard, where Russian is spoken
>more commonly than Hebrew, she whispered one last thought: “I’m not the only
>one, you know. They have ruined us all.”
>
>Traffic Patterns: Russia and Ukraine Supply the Flesh
>
>Centered in Moscow and the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, the networks trafficking
>women run east to Japan and Thailand, where thousands of young Slavic women
>now work against their will as prostitutes, and west to the Adriatic Coast
>and beyond. The routes are controlled by Russian crime gangs based in
>Moscow. Even when they do not specifically move the women overseas, they
>provide security, logistical support, liaison with brothel owners in many
>countries and, usually, false documents.
>
>Women often start their hellish journey by choice. Seeking a better life,
>they are lured by local advertisements for good jobs in foreign countries at
>wages they could never imagine at home.
>
>In Ukraine alone, the number of women who leave is staggering. As many as
>400,000 women under 30 have gone in the past decade, according to their
>country’s interior ministry. The Thai Embassy in Moscow, which processes
>visa applications from Russia and Ukraine, says it receives nearly 1,000
>visa applications a day, most of these from women.
>
>Israel is a fairly typical destination. Prostitution is not illegal here,
>although brothels are, and with 250,000 foreign male workers—most of whom
>are single or here without their wives—the demand is great. Police officials
>estimate that there are 25,000 paid sexual transactions every day. Brothels
>are ubiquitous.
>
>None of the women seem to realize the risks they run until it is too late.
>Once they cross the border their passports will be confiscated, their
>freedoms curtailed and what little money they have taken from them at once.
>
>“You want to tell these kids that if something seems too good to be true it
>usually is,” said Lyudmilla Biryuk, a Ukrainian psychologist who has
>counseled women who have escaped or been released from bondage. “But you can
>’t imagine what fear and real ignorance can do to a person.”
>
>The women are smuggled by car, bus, boat and plane. Handed off in the dead
>of night, many are told they will pick oranges, work as dancers or as
>waitresses. Others have decided to try their luck at prostitution, usually
>for what they assume will be a few lucrative months. They have no idea of
>the violence that awaits them.
>
>The efficient, economically brutal routine—whether here in Israel, or in one
>of a dozen other countries—rarely varies. Women are held in apartments, bars
>and makeshift brothels; there they service, by their own count, as many as
>15 clients a day. Often they sleep in shifts, four to a bed. The best that
>most hope for is to be deported after the police finally catch up with their
>captors.
>
>Few ever testify. Those who do risk death. Last year in Istanbul, Turkey,
>according to Ukrainian police investigators, two women were thrown to their
>deaths from a balcony while six of their Russian friends watched.
>
>In Serbia, also last year, said a young Ukrainian woman who escaped in
>October, a woman who refused to work as a prostitute was beheaded in public.
>
>In Milan, Italy, a week before Christmas, the police broke up a ring that
>was holding auctions in which women abducted from the countries of the
>former Soviet Union were put on blocks, partially naked, and sold at an
>average price of just under $1,000.
>
>“This is happening wherever you look now,” said Michael Platzer, the Vienna,
>Austria-based head of operations for the U.N.’s Center for International
>Crime Prevention. “The Mafia is not stupid. There is less law enforcement
>since the Soviet Union fell apart and more freedom of movement. The earnings
>are incredible. The overhead is low—you don’t have to buy cars and guns.
>Drugs you sell once and they are gone. Women can earn money for a long
>time.”
>
>“Also,” he added, “the laws help the gangsters. Prostitution is semilegal in
>many places and that makes enforcement tricky. In most cases punishment is
>very light.”
>
>In some countries, Israel among them, there is not even a specific law
>against the sale of human beings.
>
>Platzer said that although certainly “tens of thousands” of women were sold
>into prostitution each year, he was uncomfortable with statistics since
>nobody involved has any reason to tell the truth.
>
>“But if you want to use numbers,” he said, “think about this. Two hundred
>million people are victims of contemporary forms of slavery. Most aren’t
>prostitutes, of course, but children in sweatshops, domestic workers,
>migrants. During four centuries, 12 million people were believed to be
>involved in the slave trade between Africa and the New World. The 200
>million—and many of course are women who are trafficked for sex—is a current
>figure. It’s happening now. Today.”
>
>Distress Calls: Far-Flung Victims Provide Few Clues
>
>The distress call came from Donetsk, the bleak center of coal production in
>southern Ukraine. A woman was screaming on the telephone line. Her sister
>and a friend were prisoners in a bar somewhere near Rome. They spoke no
>Italian and had no way out, but had managed, briefly, to get hold of a man’s
>cell phone.
>
>“Do you have any idea where they are, exactly?” asked Olga Shved, who runs
>La Strada in Kiev, Ukraine’s new center dedicated to fighting the
>trafficking of women in Eastern Europe and the countries of the former
>Soviet Union.
>
>The woman’s answer was no. Ms. Shved began searching for files and telephone
>numbers of the local consul, the police, anybody who could help.
>
>“Do they know how far from Rome they are?” she asked, her voice tightening
>with each word. “What about the name of the street or the bar? Anything will
>help,” she said, jotting notes furiously as she spoke. “We can get the
>police on this, but we need something. If they call back, tell them to give
>us a clue. The street number. The number of a bus that runs past. One thing
>is all we need.”
>
>Ms. Shved hung up and called officials at Ukraine’s Interior Ministry and
>the Foreign Ministry. Her conversations were short, direct and obviously a
>routine part of her job.
>
>That is because Ukraine—and to a lesser degree its Slavic neighbors Russia
>and Belarus—has replaced Thailand and the Philippines as the epicenter of
>the global business in trafficking women. The Ukrainian problem has been
>worsened by a ravaged economy, an atrophied system of law enforcement, and
>criminal gangs that grow more brazen each year. Young European women are in
>demand, and Ukraine, a country of 51 million people, has a seemingly endless
>supply. It is not that hard to see why.
>
>Neither Russia nor Ukraine reports accurate unemployment statistics. But
>even partial numbers present a clear story of chaos and economic
>dislocation. Federal employment statistics in Ukraine indicate that more
>than two-thirds of the unemployed are women. The government also keeps
>another statistic: employed but not working. Those are people who
>technically have jobs, and can use company amenities like day-care centers
>and hospitals. But they do not work or get paid. Three-quarters are women.
>And of those who have lost their jobs since the Soviet Union dissolved in
>1991, more than 80 percent are women.
>
>The average salary in Ukraine today is slightly less than $30 a month, but
>it is half that in the small towns that criminal gangs favor for recruiting
>women to work abroad. On average, there are 30 applicants for every job in
>most Ukrainian cities. There is no real hope; but there is freedom.
>
>In that climate, looking for work in foreign countries has increasingly
>become a matter of survival.
>
>“It’s no secret that the highest prices now go for the white women,” said
>Marco Buffo, executive director of On the Road, an antitrafficking
>organization in northern Italy. “They are the novelty item now. It used to
>be Nigerians and Asians at the top of the market. Now it’s the Ukrainians.”
>
>Economics is not the only factor causing women to flee their homelands.
>There is also social reality. For the first time, young women in Ukraine and
>Russia have the right, the ability and the willpower to walk away from their
>parents and their hometowns. Village life is disintegrating throughout much
>of the former Soviet world, and youngsters are grabbing any chance they can
>find to save themselves.
>“After the wall fell down, the Ukrainian people tried to live in the new
>circumstances,” said Ms. Shved. “It was very hard, and it gets no easier.
>Girls now have few opportunities yet great freedom. They see ‘Pretty Woman,’
>or a thousand movies and ads with the same point, that somebody who is rich
>can save them. The glory and ease of wealth is almost the basic point of the
>Western advertising that we see. Here the towns are dying. What jobs there
>are go to men. So they leave.”
>
>First, however, they answer ads from employment agencies promising to find
>them work in a foreign country. Here again, Russian crime gangs play a
>central role. They often recruit people through seemingly innocuous “mail
>order bride” meetings. Even when they do not, few such organizations can
>operate without paying off one gang or another. Sometimes want ads are
>almost honest, suggesting that the women can earn up to $1,000 a month as
>“escorts” abroad. Often they are vague or blatantly untrue.
>
>Recruiting Methods: Ads Make Offers Too Good To Be True
>
>One typical ad used by traffickers in Kiev last year read: “Girls: Must be
>single and very pretty. Young and tall. We invite you for work as models,
>secretaries, dancers, choreographers, gymnasts. Housing is supplied. Foreign
>posts available. Must apply in person.”
>
>One young woman who did, and made it back alive, described a harrowing
>journey. “I met with these guys, and they asked if I would work at a strip
>bar,” she said. “Why not, I thought. They said we would have to leave at
>once. We went by car to the Slovak Republic where they grabbed my passport.
>I think they got me new papers there, but threatened me if I spoke out. We
>made it to Vienna, then to Turkey. I was kept in a bar and I was told I owed
>$5,000 for my travel. I worked for three days, and on the fourth I was
>arrested.”
>
>Lately, the ads have started to disappear from the main cities—where the
>realities of such offers are known now. These days the appeals are made in
>the provinces, where their success is undiminished.
>
>Most of the thousands of Ukrainian women who go abroad each year are illegal
>immigrants who do not work in the sex business. Often they apply for a legal
>visa—to dance, or work in a bar—and then stay after it expires.
>
>Many go to Turkey and Germany, where Russian crime groups are particularly
>powerful. Israeli leaders say that Russian women—they tend to refer to all
>women from the former Soviet Union as Russian—disappear off tour boats every
>day. Officials in Italy estimate that at least 30,000 Ukrainian women are
>employed illegally there now.
>
>Most are domestic workers, but a growing number are prostitutes, some of
>them having been promised work as domestics only to find out their jobs were
>a lie. Part of the problem became clear in a two-year study recently
>concluded by the Washington-based nonprofit group Global Survival Network:
>Police officials in many countries just don’t care.
>
>The network, after undercover interviews with gangsters, pimps and corrupt
>officials, found that local police forces—often those best able to prevent
>trafficking—are least interested in helping.
>
>Gillian Caldwell of Global Survival Network has been deeply involved in the
>study. “In Tokyo,” she said, “a sympathetic senator arranged a meeting for
>us with senior police officials to discuss the growing prevalence of
>trafficking from Russia into Japan. The police insisted it wasn’t a problem,
>and they didn’t even want the concrete information we could have provided.
>That didn’t surprise local relief agencies, who cited instances in which
>police had actually sold trafficked women back to the criminal networks
>which had enslaved them.”
>
>Official Reactions: Best-Placed To Help, but Least Inclined
>
>Complacency among police agencies is not uncommon.
>
>“Women’s groups want to blow this all out of proportion,” said Gennadi
>Lepenko, chief of Kiev’s branch of Interpol, the international police
>agency. “Perhaps this was a problem a few years ago. But it’s under control
>now.”
>
>That is not the view at Ukraine’s parliament—which is trying to pass new
>laws to protect young women—or at the Interior Ministry.
>“We have a very serious problem here, and we are simply not equipped to
>solve it by ourselves,” said Mikhail Lebed, chief of criminal investigations
>for the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. “It is a human tragedy, but also,
>frankly, a national crisis. Gangsters make more from these women in a week
>than we have in our law-enforcement budget for the whole year. To be honest,
>unless we get some help we are not going to stop it.”
>
>But solutions will not be simple. Criminal gangs risk little by ferrying
>women out of the country; indeed, many of the women go voluntarily. Laws are
>vague, cooperation between countries rare and punishment of traffickers
>almost nonexistent. Without work or much hope of a future at home, an eager
>teen-ager will find it hard to believe that the promise of a job in Italy,
>Turkey or Israel is almost certain to be worthless.
>
>“I answered an ad to be a waitress,” said Tamara, 19, a Ukrainian prostitute
>in a massage parlor near Tel Aviv’s old Central Bus Station, a Russian-
>language ghetto for the cheapest brothels. “I’m not sure I would go back now
>if I could. What would I do there, stand on a bread line or work in a
>factory for no wages?”
>
>Tamara, like all other such women interviewed for this article, asked that
>her full name not be published. She has classic Slavic features, with long
>blond hair and deep green eyes. She turned several potential customers away
>so she could speak at length with a reporter. She was willing to talk as
>long as her boss was out. She said she was not watched closely while she
>remained within the garish confines of the “health club.”
>
>“I didn’t plan to do this,” she said, looking sourly at the rich red walls
>and leopard prints around her. “They took my passport, so I don’t have much
>choice. But they do give me money. And believe me, it’s better than anything
>I could ever get at home.”
>
>Yitzhak Tyler, the chief of undercover activities for the Haifa police, is a
>big, open-faced man who doesn’t mince words.
>
>“We got a hell of a problem on our hands,” he said. The port city of 200,000
>has become the easiest entryway for women brought to Israel to work as
>prostitutes—though by no means the only one. Sometimes they walk off tour
>boats, but increasingly they come with forged documents that enable them to
>live and work in Israel. These have often been bought or stolen from elderly
>Jewish women in Russia or Ukraine.
>
>“This is a sophisticated, global operation,” Tyler said. “It’s evil, and it’
>s successful because the money is so good. These men pay $500 to $1,000 for
>a Ukrainian or Russian woman. Do you understand what I am telling you? They
>will buy these women and make a fortune out of them.”
>
>To illustrate his point, Tyler grabbed a black calculator and started
>calling out the sums as he punched them in.
>“Take a small place,” he said, “with 10 girls. Each has 15 to 20 clients a
>day. Multiply that by say 200 shekels. So say 30,000 shekels a day comes in
>to each place. Each girl works 25 days a month. Minimum.”
>
>Tyler was busy doing math as he spoke. “So we are talking about 750,000
>shekels a month, or about $215,000. A man often owns five of these places.
>That’s a million dollars. No taxes, no real overhead. It’s a factory with
>slave labor. And we’ve got them all over Israel.”
>
>The Tropicana, in Tel Aviv’s bustling business district, is one of the
>busiest bordellos. The women who work there, like nearly all prostitutes in
>Israel today, are Russian. Their boss, however, is not.
>
>“Israelis love Russian girls,” said Jacob Golan, who owns this and two other
>clubs, and spoke willingly about the business he finds so “successful.”
>“They are blonde and good-looking and different from us,” he said, chuckling
>as he drew his hand over his black hair. “And they are desperate. They are
>ready to do anything for money.”
>
>Always filled with half-naked Russian women, the club is open around the
>clock. There is a schedule on the wall next to the receptionist—with each
>woman’s hours listed in a different color, and the days and shifts rotating,
>as at a restaurant or a bar. Next to the schedule a sign reads, “We don’t
>accept checks.” Next to that there is a poster for a missing Israeli woman.
>
>There are 12 cubicles at the Tropicana where 20 women work in shifts, eight
>during the daytime, 12 at night. Business is always booming, and not just
>with foreign workers. Israeli soldiers, with rifles on their shoulders,
>frequent the place, as do business executives and tourists.
>Golan was asked if most women who work at the club do so voluntarily. He
>laughed heartily.
>
>“I don’t get into that,” he said, staring vacantly across his club at four
>Russian women sitting on a low couch. “They are brought here and told to
>work. I don’t force them. I pay them. What goes on between them and the men
>they are with, how could that be my problem?”
>
>Deterrent Strategies: A System that Fails Those Who Testify
>
>Every once in a while, usually with great fanfare and plenty of advance
>notice, Golan gets raided. He pays a fine, and the women without good false
>documents are taken to prison.
>
>If they are deported, the charges against them are dropped. But if a woman
>wants to file a complaint, then she must remain in prison until a trial is
>held. “In the past four years,” Betty Lahan, prison director of Neve Tirtsa
>here, said, “I don’t know of a single case where a woman chose to testify.”
>
>Such punitive treatment of victims is the rule rather than the exception. In
>Italy, where the police say killings of women forced into prostitution
>average one a month, parliament tried to create a sort of witness protection
>program. But it only allowed women to stay in the country for one year and
>did nothing to hide their identities.
>
>“The deck is just so completely stacked against the women in all this,” said
>Daniella Pompei, an immigration specialist with the community of Sant’
>Egidio, the Catholic relief agency in Rome. “The police is the last place
>these women want to go.” She said that only 20 women had ever used the
>protection program.
>
>It is not clear who will stop the mob. On a trip to Ukraine late last year,
>Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke out about the new slave trade that has
>developed so rapidly there. The United States and the European Union have
>plans to work together to educate young women about the dangers of working
>abroad. Other initiatives, like stays of deportation for prisoners, victims’
>shelters and counseling, have also been discussed.
>
>“I don’t care about any of that,” said Lena, a young Latvian, one of the
>inmates waiting to be deported here. “I just want to know one thing. How
>will I ever walk down the street like a human being again?”
>
>
>
>



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:56:26 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:04:59 -0500, "Shabati..Zvi Äbuishneineh"
> wrote:
>
>>SJAFAR@newsnet., new wrote:
>>> 
>>> Investigators reportedly have opened several graves of Yemenite Jewish
>>> babies and found them to be empty - a discovery that might support
>>> claims that Yemenite children were taken from their parents for adoption
>>> decades ago.
>>> 
>>> For years, Yemenite activists have claimed hundreds of babies declared
>>> dead were actually given to adoptive parents of European descent. If the
>>> claims are true, it could further sour relations between Middle Eastern
>>> and European Jews in Israel.
>>> 
>>> The four graves at Tel Aviv's Givat Shaul cemetery were opened last
>>> Wednesday as part of an official investigation, with a rabbi and family
>>> members present.
>>> 
>>> Wooden signs over the empty graves bore the names Ruthie Babu, Ruthie
>>> Cohen, Reuven Rafaelo and Moshe Mishraki, Israel TV reported Saturday.
>>> All were hospitalized when only a few months old. Their parents never
>>> saw them again, nor did they see a body or a death certificate.
>>> 
>>> ``Now there is no doubt that this was an affair of planned fraud in
>>> which funerals were staged and evidence was falsified,'' said Ora
>>> Shifris, a spokesman for the Yemenite families.
>>> 
>>> Hundreds of children disappeared during the mass immigration of Yemenite
>>> Jews in the early 1950s, when the immigrants were housed in tent camps.
>>> Camp officials and medical staff denied any wrongdoing, saying there was
>>> chaos in the camps, where many babies were sickly and died.
>>> 
>>> Two other commissions have investigated the affair, but many families
>>> dismissed their inconclusive findings.
>>> 
>>> In 1994, radical Yemenite activist Uzi Meshulam and a group of armed
>>> followers barricaded themselves in a house in Tel Aviv for six weeks to
>>> press demands for a new inquiry. One of the followers was killed in a
>>> shootout with police, and Meshulam is serving a 6  1/2-year prison term.
>>> But the confrontation created a furor that led to the current
>>> commission, which has subpoena powers.
>>> 
>>> Israel's 4.7 million Jews are roughly evenly divided between those of
>>> Middle Eastern and European descent, but the latter have always been
>>> dominant economically and socially.
>>
>>
>>Mr. Jafar.
>>1. The number of children exceeded the thousands, not hundreds.
>>2. Most of the low Paige and menial jobs are given to Arab Jews.
>>3. For economic reasons, most of the prostitutes in Israel are underage
>>Yemenites (and now Russian) Jewish little girls.
>>4. Rejecting the blood of the African Jews (the Falasha) is just on of
>>the facet of the fascist Zionist life. The Falasha Jews are prohibited
>>from performing marriages and funeral. Only Aryan Jews are allowed to do
>>that besides some Arab Jews who had to (convert) to Judaism, the Aryan
>>style.



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On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:59:40 GMT, doc_tavish@DELETEME.bigfoot.com (Doc
Tavish) wrote:

>X-NO-ARCHIVE: YES
>
>Let us first examine what "Talmudic Pharisaic Jews" are.
>From their own writings we have this information to give us an overall
>definition:
>
>"The Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent, without a
>break, through all the centuries, from the Pharisees. Their leading
>ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent,
>of which a very great deal is still in existence. The Talmud is the
>largest and most important single member of that literature, and round
>it are gathered a number of Midrashim, partly legal (Halachic) and
>partly works of edification (Haggadic)." The Universal Jewish
>Encyclopedia (1943 edition, page 474]
>
>[NOTE: The words in parenthesis are as they appeared in the text; they
>are not my additions.]
>
>".... any decision regarding the Jewish religion must be based on the
>TALMUD as the final resume...."   "The JEWS - Their History, Culture,
>and Religion", Vol. 4, p. 1332, Jewish Publication Society of America
>
>"The TALMUD is to this day the circulting heart's blood of the Jewish
>religion. Whatever laws, customs or ceremonies we observe- whether we
>are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform or merely spasmodic
>sentimentalists-we follow the TALMUD. It is our common law."
>THE TALMUD; HEART'S BLOOD of the JEWISH FAITH 
>by Herman Wouk which also ran serially in the (11/17/59) 
>New York Herald Tribune
>
>We can safely reason that The Talmud was written by the Pharisees and
>that today's Judaism is Talmudic in scope.
>
>Let us now examine what famous people in the Bible said of the
>Pharisees (Talmud authors) and to their faces.
>
>Matthew 3:1,7-10 (English-RSV)
>1 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of
>Judea....
>7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sad'ducees coming for
>baptism, he said to them, "You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee
>from the wrath to come? 
>8 Bear fruit that befits repentance, 
>9 and do not presume to say to yourselves, 'We have Abraham as our
>father'; for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up
>children to Abraham. 
>10 Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees; every tree
>therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into
>the fire. 
>
>Matthew 5:20 (English-RSV)
>[Jesus said] For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of
>the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
>
>
>The following tells who has been cursed with the "unforgivable sin"
>
>Matthew 12:22-37 (English-RSV)
>22 Then a blind and dumb demoniac was brought to him [Jesus], and he
>healed him, so that the dumb man spoke and saw.
>23 And all the people were amazed, and said, "Can this be the Son of
>David?" 
>24 But when the Pharisees heard it they said, "It is only by
>Be-el'zebul, the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons." 
>25 Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, "Every kingdom divided
>against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against
>itself will stand; 
>26 and if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how
>then will his kingdom stand? 
>27 And if I cast out demons by Be-el'zebul, by whom do your sons cast
>them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. 
>28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the
>kingdom of God has come upon you. 
>29 Or how can one enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods,
>unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his
>house. 
>30 He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather
>with me scatters. 
>31Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men,
>but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 
>32 And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven;
>but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven,
>either in this age or in the age to come. 
>33 "Either make the tree good, and its fruit good; or make the tree
>bad, and its fruit bad; for the tree is known by its fruit. 
>34 You brood of vipers! how can you speak good, when you are evil? For
>out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 
>35 The good man out of his good treasure brings forth good, and the
>evil man out of his evil treasure brings forth evil. 
>36 I tell you, on the day of judgment men will render account for
>every careless word they utter; 
>37 for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will
>be condemned."
>
>Mark 3:28-30 (English-RSV)
>28 [Jesus said] "Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the
>sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter;
>29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has
>forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin" -- 
>30 for they had said, "He has an unclean spirit." 
>
>{Special note: The only unforgivable sin is what is declared above.
>According to the above only one group has done this. They were not
>Nazis either. Hitler and everyone of his adherents stands a better
>chance on Judgment Day than Pharisees if we accept what was said
>above. Just something to think about! There are no ifs, ands, or buts.
>I would rather be labeled by the Pahrisees of today an anti-Semite
>than be labeled by God as an anti-Christ!}
>
>Notice whose Children Jesus said the Pharisees were:
>
>John 8:44-49 (English-RSV)
>44 [Jesus said] You are of your father the devil, and your will is to
>do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and
>has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him.
>When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar
>and the father of lies.
>45 But, because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. 
>46 Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you
>not believe me? 
>47 He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not
>hear them is that you are not of God." 
>48 The Jews answered him, "Are we not right in saying that you are a
>Samaritan and have a demon?"  {Remember the two preceding scriptural
>accounts on the "unforgivable sin"- go review.}
>49 Jesus answered, "I have not a demon; but I honor my Father, and you
>dishonor me. 
>
>On Pharisees and their traditions and teachings:
>
>Mark 7:1-19 (English-RSV)
>1 Now when the Pharisees gathered together to him, with some of the
>scribes, who had come from Jerusalem,
>2 they saw that some of his disciples ate with hands defiled, that is,
>unwashed. 
>3 (For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, do not eat unless they wash
>their hands, observing the tradition of the elders; 
>4 and when they come from the market place, they do not eat unless
>they purify themselves; and there are many other traditions which they
>observe, the washing of cups and pots and vessels of bronze.) 
>5 And the Pharisees and the scribes asked him, "Why do your disciples
>not live according to the tradition of the elders, but eat with hands
>defiled?" 
>6 And he said to them, "Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as
>it is written, 'This people honors me with their lips, but their heart
>is far from me; 
>7 in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of
>men.' 
>8 You leave the commandment of God, and hold fast the tradition of
>men." 
>9 And he said to them, "You have a fine way of rejecting the
>commandment of God, in order to keep your tradition! 
>10 For Moses said, 'Honor your father and your mother'; and, 'He who
>speaks evil of father or mother, let him surely die'; 
>11 but you say, 'If a man tells his father or his mother, What you
>would have gained from me is Corban' (that is, given to God) -- 
>12 then you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or
>mother, 
>13 thus making void the word of God through your tradition which you
>hand on. And many such things you do." 
>14 And he called the people to him again, and said to them, "Hear me,
>all of you, and understand: 
>15 there is nothing outside a man which by going into him can defile
>him; but the things which come out of a man are what defile him." 
>16 _
>17 And when he had entered the house, and left the people, his
>disciples asked him about the parable. 
>18 And he said to them, "Then are you also without understanding? Do
>you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot defile
>him, 
>19 since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes on?"
>(Thus he declared all foods clean.) 
>
>Matthew 23:6,7,8,13,15,24,25,27,33-35 (English-RSV)
>6 [Jesus said].....and they love the place of honor at feasts and the
>best seats in the synagogues,
>7 and salutations in the market places, and being called rabbi by men.
>
>8 But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and
>you are all brethren. 
>13 "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you
>shut the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither enter
>yourselves, nor allow those who would enter to go in. 
>15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you traverse sea
>and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte,
>you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves. 
>24 You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel! 
>25 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you cleanse the
>outside of the cup and of the plate, but inside they are full of
>extortion and rapacity. 
>27 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you are like
>whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within they
>are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness. 
>33 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how are you to escape being
>sentenced to hell? 
>34 Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and scribes, some of
>whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will scourge in your
>synagogues and persecute from town to town, 
>35 that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from
>the blood of innocent Abel to the blood of Zechari'ah the son of
>Barachi'ah, whom you murdered between the sanctuary and the altar. 
>
>Notice what Jeus said in verse 34 about scourging or whipping in the
>synagogues. Here is Biblical proof that 1st Century Jewish Talmudic
>Pharises tortured newly eastablished Christians. All verifiable- look
>in your Bibles!
>
>Persecution and torture:
>
>Matthew 23:34 (English-RSV)
>[Jesus warned]  Therefore I send you prophets and wise men and
>scribes, some of whom you will kill and crucify, and some you will
>scourge in your synagogues and persecute from town to town....
>
>The fulfillment:
>
>Acts 5:27-30,40,41 (English-RSV)
>27 And when they had brought them [Apostles], they set them before the
>council. And the high priest questioned them,
>28 saying, "We strictly charged you not to teach in this name, yet
>here you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and you intend to
>bring this man's blood upon us." 
>29 But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God rather than
>men. 
>30 The God of our fathers raised Jesus whom you killed by hanging him
>on a tree. 
>40 ... they had called in the apostles, they beat them and charged
>them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go. 
>41 Then they left the presence of the council, rejoicing that they
>were counted worthy to suffer dishonor for the name. 
>
>Acts 8:1-3 (English-RSV)
>1 And Saul was consenting to his death. And on that day a great
>persecution arose against the church in Jerusalem; and they were all
>scattered throughout the region of Judea and Sama'ria, except the
>apostles.
>2 Devout men buried Stephen, and made great lamentation over him. 
>3 But Saul was ravaging the church, and entering house after house, he
>dragged off men and women and committed them to prison.
>
>Acts 9:1,2 (English-RSV)
>1 But Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples
>of the Lord, went to the high priest
>2 and asked him for letters to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if
>he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them
>bound to Jerusalem.  
>
>Saul later became the Apostle Paul after being "converted" on the road
>to Damascus and here is his confession of what he did to Christians:
>
>Acts 22:1,2,4,5-8,19,20 (English-RSV)
>1[Apostle Paul speaks]"Brethren and fathers, hear the defense which I
>now make before you."
>2 And when they heard that he addressed them in the Hebrew language,
>they were the more quiet. And he said: 
>4 I persecuted this Way to the death, binding and delivering to prison
>both men and women, 
>5 as the high priest and the whole council of elders bear me witness.
>From them I received letters to the brethren, and I journeyed to
>Damascus to take those also who were there and bring them in bonds to
>Jerusalem to be punished. 
>6 "As I made my journey and drew near to Damascus, about noon a great
>light from heaven suddenly shone about me. 
>7 And I fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to me, 'Saul,
>Saul, why do you persecute me?' 
>8 And I answered, 'Who are you, Lord?' And he said to me, 'I am Jesus
>of Nazareth whom you are persecuting.' ......
>19 And I said, 'Lord, they themselves know that in every synagogue I
>imprisoned and beat those who believed in thee. [YLT version: and I
>said, Lord, they -- they know that I was imprisoning and was scourging
>in every synagogue those believing on thee] 
>20 And when the blood of Stephen thy witness was shed, I also was
>standing by and approving, and keeping the garments of those who
>killed him.' ....
>
>More of Apostle Paul confessing and repenting from his wickedness:
>
>Acts 26:9-11 (English-RSV)
>9 "I myself was convinced that I ought to do many things in opposing
>the name of Jesus of Nazareth.
>10 And I did so in Jerusalem; I not only shut up many of the saints in
>prison, by authority from the chief priests, but when they were put to
>death I cast my vote against them. 
>11 And I punished them often in all the synagogues and tried to make
>them blaspheme; and in raging fury against them, I persecuted them
>even to foreign cities. 
>
>{The Apostle Paul was really some sort of a vicious "Nazi" wasn't he
>when he existed as a Pharisee named Saul? He did all of this
>persecution in the name of Judaism! Proof below.}
>
>Galatians 1:1,13,14 (English-RSV)
>1 Paul an apostle--not from men nor through man, but through Jesus
>Christ and God the Father, who raised him from the dead--
>13 For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted
>the church of God violently and tried to destroy it; 
>14 and I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my
>people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers. 
>
>Acts 26:1,4,5 (English-RSV)
>1 Agrippa said to Paul, "You have permission to speak for yourself."
>Then Paul stretched out his hand and made his defense:
>4 "My manner of life from my youth, spent from the beginning among my
>own nation and at Jerusalem, is known by all the Jews. 
>5 They have known for a long time, if they are willing to testify,
>that according to the strictest party of our religion I have lived as
>a Pharisee. 
>
>Here is what the Universal Encyclopedia (1905 ed) says of the
>relations of the First Century Christians and Pharisees:  "In the
>passages referring to the Christian period, "minim" usually indicates
>Judeo-Christians.... During the first century of Christianity the
>Rabbis lived on friendly terms with the minim.... These friendly
>feelings, however, gradually gave way to violent hatred, as the minim
>separated themselves from all connection with Jews and propagated
>writings which the Rabbis considered more dangerous to the unity of
>Judaism than those of the pagans. 'The writings of the minim,' says
>Rabbi Tarfon, 'deserve to be burned, even though the holy name of God
>occurs therein'... It was forbidden to partake meat, bread, and wine
>with the min. Scrolls of the Law, tefillin, and mezuzot written by a
>min were burned (Git. 45b ; Yer, Shab. 14b ; Ab, Zarah 40b...) ... The
>relatives of a min were not permitted to observe the laws of mourning
>after his death, but they were required to assume festive garments and
>rejoice (Sem. ii. 10; Yoreh De'ah, 345).... an Israelite who found
>anything belonging to a min was forbidden to return it to him (see
>Hoshen Mishpat, 266, 2)." Univ Jew Encyc (1905) page 595 
>
>{The claim made above: "During the first century of Christianity the
>Rabbis lived on friendly terms with the minim." is out of agreement
>with what the Bible said.}
>
>We can only conclude with what was written before our time:
>[From a previous post]
>
>The Apostle now says of the enemies of Christ: "Who is the liar if it
>is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the
>antichrist..." 1 John 2:22 Note that there are many antichrists not
>just one that is taught by the Pharisees allies: "...just as you have
>heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many
>antichrists..." 1 John 2:19 
>
>Many of the "Churches of Polluted Christendom" teach that "only one
>antichrist will come at a certain hour in the future" but this is not
>true and it blows a smoke screen to defend all the antichrists in
>operation today. If you falsely teach that antichrist is not here yet;
>then you are only covering for those that deny Jesus and his
>teachings. Much of Christendom has already received its thirty 
>pieces of silver from the Pharisees and has therefore made 
>itself a Judas or betrayer too!
>
>	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>For further information:
>
>Looking at what the first century Pharisees did to Christians and
>knowing what they did during the Bolshevik Revolution only make you
>wonder why they are still seeking damages from the decendents of
>Nazis. The Pharisees were first in everything so why should they keep
>hand wringing and wailing for what was done to them as they had done
>to others?
>
>
>http://lcweb.loc.gov/exhibits/archives/d2presid.html
>
>http://www.hrc.wmin.ac.uk/guest/radical/ES-BOLSH.HTM#4
>
>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>
>Date:  Thu, Nov 30, 1995 5:32 PM EDT
>
>      By Philippa Fletcher 
>
> MOSCOW (Reuter) - A Russian presidential commission said
>Monday that 200,000 clergy were systematically murdered under
>Soviet rule in a horrific cycle of crucifixions, scalpings and
>``bestial tortures.''
>
> Commission chairman Alexander Yakovlev, presenting the
>report at a news conference, seemed unconcerned that it might
>deter electors from voting communist or nationalist in
>parliamentary elections on Dec. 17.
>
> ``If it has an influence, I will be very satisfied,'' he
>said.
>
> The report by the Commission for the Rehabilitation of the
>Victims of Political Repression also found that another 500,000
>religious figures suffered persecution in the decades after
>Vladimir Lenin's Bolsheviks seized power.
>
> ``Documents relate how clergymen, monks, nuns were crucified
>on royal gates and shot in the basements of the Cheka (secret
>police), scalped, strangled, drowned and submitted to other
>bestial tortures,'' he said.
>
> Yakovlev said some of the material, from archives of the
>former ruling politburo and security services, had not been
>previously published and that uncovering it was traumatic.
>
> ``I was especially shocked by accounts of priests turned
>into columns of ice in winter... But that's not all, there were
>crucifixions ... It was total cruelty.''
>
> He said hundreds of people were shot for not giving up
>church property, and only a fraction of the proceeds were spent
>on the poor as the authorities had promised.
>
>		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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understand the role of the cursed JEWS in their problems.


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>
>To be honest, I find the connection between the content of your newsletters
>and the name "soc.culture.russian" very vague. So perhaps you would like to
>explain why you are not posting your oppinions in a more relevant newsgroup?
>Because I find it quite iritating to go through approximately 70% of
>anti-semitic newsletters, when trying to find some serious letters about
>Russian society!
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On Sun, 22 Nov 1998 03:32:26 GMT, Lennier@b5.spam.com (Lennier) wrote:
>On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 20:51:21 +0100,	 joswig@lavielle.com (Rainer
>Joswig) posted:
>>In article <366818c2.3693143@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>,
>>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>> On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 15:56:19 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> >One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>>> >may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>>> >who were in the German military!!!
>>> One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>>> may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>>> who were in the German military!!!
>>> 
>>> Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide
>>> for
>>> themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.
>>
>>NAZI lies...
>
>	Nazis were disolved 53 years ago. Most of the ex-nazis are
>dead.
>
>	Impossible to be their lies. 

Even though you speak the TRUTH, and it is evident the Christkillers
and their descendants want to perpetuate their HOLOHOAX so that they
can continue to extort billions from those gullible, the truth will
prevail!!!

On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:55:25 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 20:51:21 +0100, joswig@lavielle.com (Rainer
>Joswig) wrote:
>
>>In article <366818c2.3693143@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>,
>>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 15:56:19 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> >One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>>> >may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>>> >who were in the German military!!!
>>> One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>>> may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>>> who were in the German military!!!
>>> 
>>> Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide
>>> for
>>> themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.
>>
>>JEW lies, so they can continue to swindle Christians with their HOLOHOAX....
>
>One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>who were in the German military!!!
>
>Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide
>for
>themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.
>
>
>
>
>someone@somewhere.com wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>> Holman) wrote: 
>> >Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims 
>> >made here.
>
>
>
>> >1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>> >DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>
>> >        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>> >individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>> >witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No 
>> >mounds of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing 
>> >the job, no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no 
>> >records, no demographic statistics.
>
>> >        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>> >forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>> >comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>> >figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>
>> Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>> half of the original 600,000 JEWS in Germany were in the German
>> military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>> extort money from gullible governments!!!
> 
>> >        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>> >RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>> >WORLD WAR TWO?
> 
>> >        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>> >interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German 
>> >war effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of 
>> >their race or national origin alone.
> 
>> >        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>> >CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
> 
>> >        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>> >their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>> >Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist 
>> >subversion during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were 
>> >highly overrepresented in government, commercial, and media 
>> >positions.
>
>> >However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger 
>> >of internment once the war broke out.
>
>> >        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>> >Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply 
>> >because the German government had removed Jews from influential 
>> >positions and transferred power back to the German people. The 
>> >boycott order and the Jewish war against Germany were reported in 
>> >the world print and broadcast media of the time. False stories of 
>> >German "death camps" were in fact circulated even before the outbreak 
>> >of World War Two. Therefore the German view of the Jewish people 
>> >as enemy aliens would seem to have been fully justified.
> 
>> >        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>> >DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
> 
>> >        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>> >gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
> 
>> >        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS 
>> >IT WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT 
>> >WAS?
>
>> >        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>> >murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>> >were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>> >chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official 
>> >Holocaust lore because it became too difficult to maintain in 
>> >the face of known fact and because Dachau was in the Allied 
>> >occupation zone where access to the camp was too 
>> >easy and unrestricted.
> 
>> >        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>> >version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning 
>> >of the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>> >noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>> >official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>> >Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
> 
>> >        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF 
>> >THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED 
>> >AT AUSCHWITZ?
> 
>> >        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz 
>> >could not possibly have been used to carry out executions; 
>> >it is far too small and it is not even airtight. 
>> >In the 1980s, American expert Fred Leuchter, who builds gas chambers 
>> >for American penal systems, took scrapings from the walls 
>> >of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>> >analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit 
>> >is a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
> 
>> Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>> 1949, long after the war???
>
>> >        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE 
>> >PURPOSE?
> 
>> >        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>> >(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in 
>> >the same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>> >correctional systems throughout the United States today.
> 
>> >        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
> 
>> >        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of 
>> >hydrocyanic gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, 
>> >including the fumigation of lice-infested clothing, 
>> >the purpose for which it was applied at Auschwitz. 
>> >Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>> >commonly used and available today.
> 
>> >        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>> >COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
> 
>> >        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>> >brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>> >figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>> >read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>> >Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>> >cross examined.
> 
>> >        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA 
>> >FUMIGATED WITH ZYKLON-B?
> 
>> >        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>> >and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>> >only are employed.
> 
>> >        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>> >ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>> >THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
> 
>> >        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened 
>> >like that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered 
>> >the same fate as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
> 
>> >        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>> >CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>> >BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
> 
>> >        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the 
>> >six million figure as well.
> 
>> >        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT 
>> >SECRET FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE 
>> >POPE, THE VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND 
>> >ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE NOT KNOW?
> 
>> >        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>> >British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>> >been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>> >were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a 
>> >potentially powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any 
>> >contemporary evidence at all during the war that such an event was 
>> >occurring.
>
>> >        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>> >DURING THE WAR?
> 
>> >        About 300,000.
> 
>> >        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
> 
>> >        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>> >Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably 
>> >appears whenever people are jammed together for long periods 
>> >without bathing.It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. 
>> >Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant 
>> >purposes, more Jews  might have survived the concentration camps. 
>> >Jewish prisoners (as well as many others) also died from starvation 
>> >and lack of medical attention towards the end of the war 
>> >when virtually all rail and road transport had come to a standstill 
>> >due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
> 
>> >        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 
>> >300,000 DIED?
>
>> >        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>> >deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>> >exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>> >was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>> >identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>> >of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>> >the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
> 
>> >        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>> >BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD 
>> >HAVE BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
> 
>> >        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>> >afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.
> 
>> >        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
> 
>> >        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed 
>> >by flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated 
>> >in open pits.
>> >[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>> >observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>> >American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely 
>> >to destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in 
>> >any other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim 
>> >otherwise are either parroting what they have been told without 
>> >bothering to check their facts, or else they are lying.]
>
>> >        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>> >BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A 
>> >BODY ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
> 
>> >        About two hours.
> 
>> >        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
> 
>> >        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead 
>> >from typhus and other diseases.
> 
>> >        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN 
>> >ALL THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE 
>> >MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO 
>> >INCINERATE DURING THE ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
> 
>> >        About 430,600.
> 
>> >        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
> 
>> >        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>> >per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>> >when in heavy operation.
> 
>> >        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>> >CORPSE?
> 
>> >        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>> >time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
> 
>> >        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>> >HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
> 
>> >        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>> >produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have 
>> >been no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz 
>> >area or anywhere else in Europe.
> 
>> >        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE 
>> >AIR, SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
> 
>> >        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the 
>> >immense amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the 
>> >camp, nor do they show any evidence of the alleged open 
>> >pits where the bodies were burned.
> 
>> >        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 
>> >THE WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
> 
>> >        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>> >September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>> >packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>> >full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second 
>> >World War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or 
>> >any of the wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
> 
>> >        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>> >liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of 
>> >articles claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". 
>> >This charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated 
>> >Jewish attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles 
>> >steadily in the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
> 
>> >        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
> 
>> >        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>> >Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>> >conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>> >literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>> >diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>> >adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from 
>> >the published text.
>>
>> >        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the 
>> >actual writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. 
>> >A Jewish judge in New York ordered the records of the court case 
>> >sealed for 100 years.
>> >When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>> >noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were 
>> >interpolations written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, 
>> >a writing instrument which was not invented until 1950. The original 
>> >diary was swiftly removed from exhibit and whisked away 
>> >into a safety deposit box inIsrael. It has never been produced for 
>> >examination since then despite repeated attempts by scholars to view 
>> >it.
> 
>> >        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>> >ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED 
>> >CORPSES AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
> 
>> >        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>> >Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>> >Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>> >man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>> >of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>> >historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>> >the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
> 
>> >        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>> >atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>> >remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>> >the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>> >laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>> >be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of 
>> >the fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme 
>> >left-wing views and are as quick to apologize for and explain 
>> >away Stalin's butcheries as they are to invent fraudulent crimes 
>> >attributed to Adolf Hitler. The almost universally leftist 
>> >political and social orientation of
>> >Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind 
>> >when examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>> >important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>> >the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken 
>> >McVay's refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General 
>> >Secretary Smith asked him why he did not condemn the 
>> >mass murders of Stalin.)
> 
>> >        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>> >SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
> 
>> >        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>> >predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would 
>> >certainlyhave been in a position to learn about it. Since no such 
>> >plan existed,the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
> 
>> >        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>> >EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
> 
>> >        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>> >deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come 
>> >tolight. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>> >Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering  
>> >the extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis 
>> >were meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were 
>> >seized by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied 
>> >archivists and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them 
>> >all. Nothing. Zip. Nada.
>
>> >        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>> >DURING THE WAR?
> 
>> >        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>> >from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>> >they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>> >official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>> >British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>> >Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>> >industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that 
>> >Eichmann was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered 
>> >in order to silence him.
> 
>
>> In Canada there was a detailed story in Toronto Life magazine about the 
>> roles  of the Reichman and Gestetner families in providing assistance 
>> to the Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public 
>> exposure,and have tried to restrict distribution of this news, 
>> which is available from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
> 
>
>
>> >        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED 
>> >BY THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
> 
>> >        Slightly less than four million.
> 
>> >        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE 
>> >THE NAZIS?
> 
>> >        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>> >kill them.
> 
>> >        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>> >HAPPENED TO THEM?
> 
>> >        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>> >States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 
>> >300,000, they are all accounted for.
> 
>> >        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>> >TODAY?
>
>> >        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>> >economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>> >sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>> >justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>> >dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>> >billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>> >growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>> >Jewish people to keep the scam going.
> 
>> >        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>> >WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
> 
>> >        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>> >They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, 
>> >not real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals 
>> >of events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>> >screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where 
>> >Jews are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and 
>> >the creative and financial sectors of film making.
> 
>> >        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>> >that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>> >begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, 
>> >the character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in 
>> >Spielberg's production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the 
>> >point of being unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost 
>> >saintly,  and yet none of those still living who remember 
>> >the man have a single good word to say about him. The real Schindler 
>> >was a confidence artist, a thief, a libertine and degenerate gambler 
>> >who indulged freely in forced sexual relations with young 
>> >female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>> >and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>> >money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>> >because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and 
>> >events like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with 
>> >the most bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
> 
>> >        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE 
>> >SOME ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
> 
>> >        Over 100, with more in the works.
> 
>> >        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>> >ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>
>> >        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>> >right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>> >freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>> >explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>> >unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>> >position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>> >genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>> >libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>> >subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>> >from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
> 
>> >        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>> >VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>
>> >        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>> >always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>> >Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>> >called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>> >hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>> >express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>> >from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>> >have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>> >Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>> >ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>> >cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
> 
>> >        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>> >hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>> >giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those 
>> >who ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the 
>> >Holocaust are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
> 
>> >        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>> >him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>> >Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>> >Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an 
>> >arson attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of 
>> >show trials lasting over ten years, and after being finally acquitted 
>> >he has been denied Canadian citizenship and is still battling 
>> >attempts  to deport him to prison and torture in Germany.
>
>> >        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>> >kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>> >lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>> >pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>> >legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>> >abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>> >only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>> >pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>> >distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder 
>> >has been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists 
>> >have been stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure 
>> >in universities, victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs 
>> >in the mail, and subjected to constant death threats 
>> >from Jews and Marxists.
>
>> >        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent 
>> >people who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by 
>> >trying to kill, imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. 
>> >More than anything else, the behavior of the Jews and the 
>> >governments they influence so strongly proves that the 
>> >Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>> >neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>> >silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people 
>> >who believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults 
>> >and torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the 
>> >part of the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have 
>> >imposed the most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of 
>> >humanity, and have used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, 
>> >steal another people's country, and then to slaughter that country's 
>> >original inhabitants at will, as according to National Public Radio 
>> >they are doing even now as I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
> 
>> >        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>> >REVISIONISTS?
> 
>> >        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than 
>> >ever to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the 
>> >earth understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded 
>> >them, and robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust 
>> >lie. There can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the
>> >Holocaust will be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at 
>> >large for what it is: a politically inspired hoax.
> 
>> >NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>> >pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>> >information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>> >ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>
>
> 
>One MUST question the validity of the EXTORTION on gullible
>governments
>by the damn JEWS for alleged compensation.
>
>
>
>If half of the German JEWS were in the German military, as the
>attached
>article documents, why give them any money??
> 
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
> From: stefan lemieszewski 
> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
> 
> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals.
>One
> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
> 
> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in
>England
> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would
>like
> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
> Stefan Lemieszewski
> 
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> North Shore News
> February 2, 1997
> 
> Insights from abroad
> Doug Collins
> 
> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
> that is ignored in Canada.
> 
> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
> 
> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two
>pages
> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
> 
> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of
>whom
> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
> 
> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five
>major
> generals, and 23 colonels.
> 
> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
> more. The research is continuing.
> 
> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied
>France
> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
> alive.
> 
> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
> 
> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
> 
> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked
>in
> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
> 
> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews
>and
> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long
>investigation
> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
> documents in the process.
> 
> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed
>that
> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew>
>could 
> ever have fought for Hitler.
> 
> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
> 
> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
> 
> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may
>be
> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers
>of
> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
> 
> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into
>an
> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who
>can
> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of
>the
> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
> 
> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor
>Helmut
> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
> was a Jew.
> 
> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
> 
> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or
>even
> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
> 
> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was
>Jewish.
> 
> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom
>he
> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced
>to a
> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
> 
> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
> 
> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and
>obtained,
> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox
>Lubavitcher
> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944
>for
> plotting against Hitler.
> 
> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via
>Latvia,
> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a
>Jew
> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler
>saw
> to it that he was discharged from the army.
> 
> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time
>magazine. I
> wonder why?
> 
> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and
>the
> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published
>in
> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>
>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>sven88




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