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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:33:59 +1100, Simple 
wrote:
>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>  sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>> >>                   By Dr. E. R. Fields
>> >>
>> >>   The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>> >>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>> >>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>> >>world's sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>> >>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>> >>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>> >>actual took place.
>> >>
>> >>              NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON'T ADD UP
>> >>
>> >>   The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>> >>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>> >>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>> >>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>> >>population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>> >>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine."
>> >>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>> >>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>
>You are an ignorant idiot; The jews are very smart they used scientific
>methods to increase their numbers at that time they used Tissue Culture
>and "In Vitro" ways to get more children so they can compensate what they
>lost in the gas chambers.
>
>>
>> >>   With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>> >>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>> >>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>> >>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>> >>holocaust "survivors" had applied for reparations money.
>
>Each jew worth 20-4,000,000 million Gentiles.
>
>> The Red
>> >>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>> >>more than 300,000 could have died.
>
>This is anti-Semitic; the cross for christians and not for jews.
>
>> It is interesting to note
>> >>that in the Jews real "bible", The Talmud, it is claimed that
>> >>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>> >>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>
>Hear about the Roman Gas Chambers
>
>>
>> >>   The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>> >>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>> >>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>> >>having been put to death "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz."
>> >>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>> >>these figures which today are accepted as "gospel truth".
>> >>   It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>> >>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>> >>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>> >>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>> >>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>> >>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>> >>"extermination camp".
>> >>
>
>In that particular camp Hitler used "typhus gas" in the gas chambers
>
>>
>> >>             HIMMLER-"REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS"
>> >>
>> >>   Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>> >>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that "The death rate in the
>> >>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source,
>> >>Reitlinger's book, "The Final Solution.")
>> >>   The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>> >>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>> >>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>> >>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>> >>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler's
>> >>order on Jan 20, 1943, "Every means will be used to lower the
>> >>death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>> >>   On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>> >>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>> >>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>> >>in the "shockingly high mortality figures." (Source: Nuremberg
>> >>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>> >>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>> >>2.8% in June 1943.
>
>So what?!
>
>>
>> >>   The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>> >>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>> >>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>> >>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of "extermination?"
>> >>   With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>> >>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>> >>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>> >>"Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>> >>Criminals". It was after this meeting that the announcement
>> >>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>> >>
>
>There were mobile gas chambers
>
>>
>> >>                  THE  PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>> >>
>> >>   In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>> >>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>> >>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>> >>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>> >>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>> >>states in the paper, "Books and Bookmen", April 1975, page 5,
>> >>"No gassing took place in any camp on German soil."
>> >>   The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>> >>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>> >>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>> >>believe in rumors of gassings.
>> >>
>
>This is anti-Semitic the Vatican , UK and Germany are well known
>anti-Semitic regimes.
>
>>
>> >>   This brings up the following questions.
>> >>   1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>> >>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>> >>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>> >>   2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>> >>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>> >>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>> >>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>> >>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>> >>MASS GASSINGS!
>> >>   3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>> >>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>> >>died from typhus.
>> >>   4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>> >>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>> >>the response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have
>> >>not spoken of them." (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>> >>1946.)
>> >>
>> >>             FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>> >>
>> >>   Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>> >>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>> >>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such "confessions" are about
>> >>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>> >>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>> >>1936. The communists wrote the "Confession' and Hoess signed it.
>> >>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>> >>died in his cell.
>> >>   Hoess statement read, "half an hour after having released the
>> >>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>> >>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>> >>smoking."
>> >>   Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>> >>gassing? Zyclon-B is not "ventable". The manufacturers state
>> >>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>> >>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>> >>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>> >>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>> >>workers ran into the gas chamber "eating and smoking" - without
>> >>gas masks - only minutes after the gassing - IF THIS OCCURRED
>> >>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>> >>
>> >>                    GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>> >>
>> >>   The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, "The Capture and Trial
>> >>of Adolph Eichmann" pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>> >>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>> >>"became immediately gaseous."
>> >>   The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: "We know of
>> >>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>> >>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air."
>> >>
>> >>                  CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>> >>
>> >>   Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>> >>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>> >>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>> >>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>> >>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>> >>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), "We knew when the people
>> >>were dead because their screaming stopped." If anyone were
>> >>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>> >>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>> >>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>> >>which carry typhus.
>> >>
>> >>               THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>> >>
>> >>   At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>> >>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>> >>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT'S ALL!  In these three
>> >>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>> >>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>> >>ovens were very small with only 18' doors and a time period of
>> >>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>> >>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>> >>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>> >>stored at the camps for cremations.
>> >>   A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>> >>William L. Shirer's book, "The Rise and Fall of the Third
>> >>Reich." It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>> >>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>> >>of people were gassed and then burned in this company's ovens.
>> >>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>> >>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>> >>   "The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>> >>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>> >>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>> >>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>> >>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>> >>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>> >>burning."
>> >>   WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>> >>   On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people - this would
>> >>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>> >>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>> >>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>> >>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>> >>ashes.
>> >>   It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>> >>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>> >>could be found. The official answer was that it was "taken to
>> >>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!"
>> >>
>> >>           WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>> >>
>> >>   Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>> >>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>> >>1967. "It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>> >>systematic extermination in those camps."
>> >>   Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: "I was at
>> >>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there."
>> >>   Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>> >>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>> >>"The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie - the
>> >>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time."
>> >>   Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>> >>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. "The
>> >>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>> >>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>> >>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel."
>> >>
>> >>                WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>> >>
>> >>   Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>> >>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>> >>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>> >>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>> >>holocaust which never occurred?
>> >>   Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, "Not
>> >>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>> >>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>> >>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>> >>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists."
>> >>   S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, "The
>> >>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>> >>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>> >>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>> >>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>> >>will cowtow to the Jews."
>> >>   Zionist spokesmen often boast of: "The shattering effect of
>> >>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>> >>of collective indebtedness to the Jews."
>> >>   Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>> >>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>> >>condemned as being "anti-Semitic" and "insensitive" to holocaust
>> >>victims.
>> >>   The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>> >>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>> >>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>> >>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>> >>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>> >>laws.
>> >>
>> >>                 A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>> >>
>> >>   The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>> >>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>> >>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>> >>38 years. When they don't use the holocaust the money collection
>> >>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>> >>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>> >>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>> >>
>
>Hollywood, and most of the media are controlled by anti-Semitic people
>
>>
>> >>                 HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>> >>
>> >>   Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>> >>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>> >>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>> >>Zionist political goals.
>
>A minute of silence for the Holocaust victims; not to forget to pay your
>share in holocaust survival compensation it is tax exempted.



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On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 15:56:19 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:

>One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>who were in the German military!!!
One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
who were in the German military!!!

Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide
for
themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.




someone@somewhere.com wrote:
 
> On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
> Holman) wrote: 
> >Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims 
> >made here.



> >1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
> >DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?

> >        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
> >individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
> >witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No 
> >mounds of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing 
> >the job, no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no 
> >records, no demographic statistics.

> >        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
> >forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
> >comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
> >figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.

> Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
> half of the original 600,000 JEWS in Germany were in the German
> military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
> extort money from gullible governments!!!
 
> >        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
> >RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
> >WORLD WAR TWO?
 
> >        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
> >interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German 
> >war effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of 
> >their race or national origin alone.
 
> >        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
> >CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
 
> >        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
> >their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
> >Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist 
> >subversion during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were 
> >highly overrepresented in government, commercial, and media 
> >positions.

> >However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger 
> >of internment once the war broke out.

> >        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
> >Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply 
> >because the German government had removed Jews from influential 
> >positions and transferred power back to the German people. The 
> >boycott order and the Jewish war against Germany were reported in 
> >the world print and broadcast media of the time. False stories of 
> >German "death camps" were in fact circulated even before the outbreak 
> >of World War Two. Therefore the German view of the Jewish people 
> >as enemy aliens would seem to have been fully justified.
 
> >        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
> >DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
 
> >        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
> >gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
 
> >        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS 
> >IT WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT 
> >WAS?

> >        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
> >murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
> >were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
> >chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official 
> >Holocaust lore because it became too difficult to maintain in 
> >the face of known fact and because Dachau was in the Allied 
> >occupation zone where access to the camp was too 
> >easy and unrestricted.
 
> >        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
> >version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning 
> >of the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
> >noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
> >official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
> >Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
 
> >        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF 
> >THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED 
> >AT AUSCHWITZ?
 
> >        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz 
> >could not possibly have been used to carry out executions; 
> >it is far too small and it is not even airtight. 
> >In the 1980s, American expert Fred Leuchter, who builds gas chambers 
> >for American penal systems, took scrapings from the walls 
> >of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
> >analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit 
> >is a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
 
> Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
> 1949, long after the war???

> >        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE 
> >PURPOSE?
 
> >        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
> >(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in 
> >the same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
> >correctional systems throughout the United States today.
 
> >        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
 
> >        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of 
> >hydrocyanic gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, 
> >including the fumigation of lice-infested clothing, 
> >the purpose for which it was applied at Auschwitz. 
> >Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
> >commonly used and available today.
 
> >        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
> >COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
 
> >        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
> >brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
> >figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
> >read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
> >Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
> >cross examined.
 
> >        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA 
> >FUMIGATED WITH ZYKLON-B?
 
> >        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
> >and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
> >only are employed.
 
> >        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
> >ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
> >THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
 
> >        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened 
> >like that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered 
> >the same fate as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
 
> >        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
> >CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
> >BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
 
> >        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the 
> >six million figure as well.
 
> >        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT 
> >SECRET FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE 
> >POPE, THE VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND 
> >ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE NOT KNOW?
 
> >        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
> >British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
> >been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
> >were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a 
> >potentially powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any 
> >contemporary evidence at all during the war that such an event was 
> >occurring.

> >        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
> >DURING THE WAR?
 
> >        About 300,000.
 
> >        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
 
> >        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
> >Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably 
> >appears whenever people are jammed together for long periods 
> >without bathing.It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. 
> >Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant 
> >purposes, more Jews  might have survived the concentration camps. 
> >Jewish prisoners (as well as many others) also died from starvation 
> >and lack of medical attention towards the end of the war 
> >when virtually all rail and road transport had come to a standstill 
> >due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
 
> >        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 
> >300,000 DIED?

> >        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
> >deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
> >exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
> >was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
> >identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
> >of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
> >the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
 
> >        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
> >BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD 
> >HAVE BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
 
> >        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
> >afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.
 
> >        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
 
> >        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed 
> >by flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated 
> >in open pits.
> >[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
> >observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
> >American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely 
> >to destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in 
> >any other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim 
> >otherwise are either parroting what they have been told without 
> >bothering to check their facts, or else they are lying.]

> >        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
> >BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A 
> >BODY ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
 
> >        About two hours.
 
> >        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
 
> >        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead 
> >from typhus and other diseases.
 
> >        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN 
> >ALL THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE 
> >MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO 
> >INCINERATE DURING THE ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
 
> >        About 430,600.
 
> >        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
 
> >        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
> >per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
> >when in heavy operation.
 
> >        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
> >CORPSE?
 
> >        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
> >time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
 
> >        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
> >HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
 
> >        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
> >produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have 
> >been no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz 
> >area or anywhere else in Europe.
 
> >        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE 
> >AIR, SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
 
> >        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the 
> >immense amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the 
> >camp, nor do they show any evidence of the alleged open 
> >pits where the bodies were burned.
 
> >        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 
> >THE WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
 
> >        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
> >September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
> >packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
> >full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second 
> >World War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or 
> >any of the wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
 
> >        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
> >liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of 
> >articles claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". 
> >This charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated 
> >Jewish attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles 
> >steadily in the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
 
> >        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
 
> >        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
> >Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
> >conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
> >literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
> >diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
> >adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from 
> >the published text.
>
> >        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the 
> >actual writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. 
> >A Jewish judge in New York ordered the records of the court case 
> >sealed for 100 years.
> >When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
> >noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were 
> >interpolations written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, 
> >a writing instrument which was not invented until 1950. The original 
> >diary was swiftly removed from exhibit and whisked away 
> >into a safety deposit box inIsrael. It has never been produced for 
> >examination since then despite repeated attempts by scholars to view 
> >it.
 
> >        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
> >ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED 
> >CORPSES AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
 
> >        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
> >Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
> >Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
> >man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
> >of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
> >historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
> >the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
 
> >        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
> >atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
> >remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
> >the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
> >laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
> >be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of 
> >the fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme 
> >left-wing views and are as quick to apologize for and explain 
> >away Stalin's butcheries as they are to invent fraudulent crimes 
> >attributed to Adolf Hitler. The almost universally leftist 
> >political and social orientation of
> >Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind 
> >when examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
> >important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
> >the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken 
> >McVay's refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General 
> >Secretary Smith asked him why he did not condemn the 
> >mass murders of Stalin.)
 
> >        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
> >SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
 
> >        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
> >predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would 
> >certainlyhave been in a position to learn about it. Since no such 
> >plan existed,the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
 
> >        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
> >EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
 
> >        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
> >deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come 
> >tolight. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
> >Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering  
> >the extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis 
> >were meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were 
> >seized by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied 
> >archivists and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them 
> >all. Nothing. Zip. Nada.

> >        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
> >DURING THE WAR?
 
> >        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
> >from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
> >they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
> >official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
> >British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
> >Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
> >industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that 
> >Eichmann was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered 
> >in order to silence him.
 

> In Canada there was a detailed story in Toronto Life magazine about the 
> roles  of the Reichman and Gestetner families in providing assistance 
> to the Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public 
> exposure,and have tried to restrict distribution of this news, 
> which is available from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
 


> >        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED 
> >BY THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
 
> >        Slightly less than four million.
 
> >        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE 
> >THE NAZIS?
 
> >        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
> >kill them.
 
> >        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
> >HAPPENED TO THEM?
 
> >        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
> >States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 
> >300,000, they are all accounted for.
 
> >        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
> >TODAY?

> >        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
> >economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
> >sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
> >justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
> >dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
> >billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
> >growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
> >Jewish people to keep the scam going.
 
> >        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
> >WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
 
> >        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
> >They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, 
> >not real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals 
> >of events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
> >screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where 
> >Jews are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and 
> >the creative and financial sectors of film making.
 
> >        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
> >that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
> >begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, 
> >the character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in 
> >Spielberg's production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the 
> >point of being unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost 
> >saintly,  and yet none of those still living who remember 
> >the man have a single good word to say about him. The real Schindler 
> >was a confidence artist, a thief, a libertine and degenerate gambler 
> >who indulged freely in forced sexual relations with young 
> >female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
> >and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
> >money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
> >because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and 
> >events like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with 
> >the most bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
 
> >        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE 
> >SOME ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
 
> >        Over 100, with more in the works.
 
> >        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
> >ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?

> >        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
> >right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
> >freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
> >explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
> >unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
> >position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
> >genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
> >libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
> >subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
> >from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
 
> >        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
> >VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?

> >        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
> >always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
> >Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
> >called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
> >hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
> >express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
> >from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
> >have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
> >Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
> >ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
> >cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
 
> >        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
> >hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
> >giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those 
> >who ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the 
> >Holocaust are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
 
> >        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
> >him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
> >Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
> >Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an 
> >arson attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of 
> >show trials lasting over ten years, and after being finally acquitted 
> >he has been denied Canadian citizenship and is still battling 
> >attempts  to deport him to prison and torture in Germany.

> >        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
> >kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
> >lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
> >pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
> >legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
> >abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
> >only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
> >pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
> >distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder 
> >has been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists 
> >have been stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure 
> >in universities, victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs 
> >in the mail, and subjected to constant death threats 
> >from Jews and Marxists.

> >        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent 
> >people who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by 
> >trying to kill, imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. 
> >More than anything else, the behavior of the Jews and the 
> >governments they influence so strongly proves that the 
> >Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
> >neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
> >silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people 
> >who believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults 
> >and torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the 
> >part of the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have 
> >imposed the most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of 
> >humanity, and have used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, 
> >steal another people's country, and then to slaughter that country's 
> >original inhabitants at will, as according to National Public Radio 
> >they are doing even now as I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
 
> >        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
> >REVISIONISTS?
 
> >        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than 
> >ever to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the 
> >earth understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded 
> >them, and robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust 
> >lie. There can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the
> >Holocaust will be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at 
> >large for what it is: a politically inspired hoax.
 
> >NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
> >pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
> >information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
> >ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.


 
One MUST question the validity of the EXTORTION on gullible
governments
by the damn JEWS for alleged compensation.



If half of the German JEWS were in the German military, as the
attached
article documents, why give them any money??
 
---------- Forwarded message ----------
 Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
 From: stefan lemieszewski 
 Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
 
 From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
 that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
 ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals.
One
 group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
 
 The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in
England
 titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
 appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would
like
 to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
 Stefan Lemieszewski
 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 North Shore News
 February 2, 1997
 
 Insights from abroad
 Doug Collins
 
 TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
 that is ignored in Canada.
 
 When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
 served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
 
 The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two
pages
 about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
 
 There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of
whom
 was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
 transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
 
 At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
 married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five
major
 generals, and 23 colonels.
 
 Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
 Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
 more. The research is continuing.
 
 Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied
France
 in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
 alive.
 
 Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
 father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
 
 Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
 whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
 
 A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked
in
 the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
 
 The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
 Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews
and
 he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long
investigation
 and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
 documents in the process.
 
 The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed
that
 Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew>
could 
 ever have fought for Hitler.
 
 A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
 the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
 
 He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
 about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
 ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
 
 Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may
be
 used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers
of
 Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
 what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
 
 British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into
an
 international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who
can
 produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of
the
 Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
 
 Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor
Helmut
 Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
 was a Jew.
 
 Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
 
 As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
 full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or
even
 one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
 
 But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
 Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was
Jewish.
 
 As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom
he
 knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced
to a
 term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
 
 A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
 
 After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and
obtained,
 the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox
Lubavitcher
 Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
 Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944
for
 plotting against Hitler.
 
 The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via
Latvia,
 and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a
Jew
 and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler
saw
 to it that he was discharged from the army.
 
 All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
 able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time
magazine. I
 wonder why?
 
 ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and
the
 right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published
in
 the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
 necessarily those of the newspaper itself.


>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!

sven88


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On 15 Nov 1998 18:04:06 GMT, philnancy@aol.com (PHILNANCY) wrote:
>In >Message-id: <364f101d.1480139@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>sbjnasson
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:45:25 -0600, John Walker
>> wrote:
>>>(See reply below)
>>>sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>>>> >non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>>>> >
>>>> >A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>>>> >ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>>>> >
>>>> >The Jews' physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>>>> >repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>>>> >naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>>>> >why Jews are disliked.
>>>> >
>>>> >In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>>>> >and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>>>> >distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>>>> >and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>>>> >Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>>>> >
>>>> >Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>>>> >with them.
>>>> >
>>>> >The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>>>> >to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>>>> >aid.
>>>> >
>>>> >The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>>>> >more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>>>> >(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>>>> >of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>>>> >the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>>>> >world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>>>> >to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>>>> >all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>>>> >congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>>>> >billion/year of US taxpayers' money continues to be sent to Israel as
>>>> >foreign aid.
>>>> >
>>>> >The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>>>> >more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>>>> >communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>>>> >strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>>>> >
>>>> >The Jews stole the Palestinians' homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>>>> >Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>>>> >the Jews.
>>>> >
>>>> >In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the "anti-semitism" they are
>>>> >always complaining about.
>>>
>>>==== Reply: ===========
>>>Jewish Leadership
>>>------------------
>>>There is an old saying in the world of salesmanship: "Once you have made the
>>>sale, shut up!."
>>>This is what I see to be a major reason for the growing "anti-Semitic"
>>>provocation mentioned above.
>>>The result  is a backlash against a tired old formula which is starting to
>>>lose it's effectiveness. The Jewish problem is that they can't "shut up".
>>>
>>>Everywhere on the Internet we witness Jews promoting Jewish leadership.
>>>Anyone with the
>>>slightest argument against them is accused by Jews of hate. Those refusing
>>to
>>>accept Jewish self promotion and  Jewish leadership  are placed in the
>>unfair
>>>position of being  branded as  hate mongers. The real hate mongers, in this
>>>case, is the Jews.
>>>Intellectual honesty in these debates  is seldom condoned. Rather than an
>>>offering of counter facts,
>>>most often anti Jewish rebuttals are substituted with mere insults which
>>>almost always  include accusations of unfounded hatred against the Jews.
>>>
>>>While Christians, Muslims, and others are busy converting people to their
>>>religion, Jews are busy
>>>promoting people to their Jewish influence. Gaining success in this activity
>>>they are able to form a thought control machine wherein Jewish interests are
>>>to be paramount.  The  very powerful Jewish lobby in the United States of
>>>America is an example of that influence and leadership  which Jews now enjoy
>>>- and it is supported for through the USA gifting of around 3 billion
>>dollars
>>>per year to Israel. Much of that money comes back to haunt us.
>>>
>>>Currently (981025), Jewish influence is testing their level of control by
>>way
>>>of trying to get the Jewish American traitor and super spy, J. Pollard,
>>>released from prison even though Pollard remains a continuing threat to USA
>>>security.. But Israel itself  has betrayed her friendship with the United
>>>States by recruiting Pollard to spy for the Jewish state.  Through such
>>acts,
>>>Israel was able to sell top secret technical information to countries which
>>>act against our security interests.  All of this amounts to even more reason
>>>why so much "anti-Semitism" is generated by the Jews themselves.
>>>
>>>A real friend would not do what Israel has been doing to the United States.
>>>Can any reasonable
>>>USA patriot citizen offer continued loyalty to that country - Israel - which
>>>has betrayed the US more than all others combined?
>>>
>>>The common pro-Jewish argument is that Jews have suffered throughout the
>>ages
>>>and that they must
>>>gain world leadership as a matter of security.  The argument continues to be
>>>strained as we observe
>>>that, more and more, according to the Jews, only Jewish suffering is to have
>>>any real meaning.  Witness the Jewish Holocaust museums where none but the
>>>Jewish victims  are remembered for the carnage's of W.W.II. The over one
>>>hundred million victims of socialist states, since the communist revolution,
>>>don't even make it to most history books.
>>>
>>>I believe I have been objective and honest  in this reply. My message was
>>>more by way of observation than it was of accusation.  Still, I can expect
>>>extreme distortions from Jews all over,  Jews who I have not met, who will
>>>accuse me of hating them.  But, they want me to hate them because that
>>>alleged hate is what motivates Jews more than anything else to fight, ever
>>>more, for their selfish influence in the affairs of our daily lives.
>>>
>>>Jews are the only ones who will tell you that you hate them -
>>>and if  you disagree, they will argue with you until you do.


>This post has nothing to do with the Holocaust, and therefore is off the topic
>of this NG.
>Philip Mathews

On the contrary, the above articles illustrate the perfidy used by the
cursed Christkillers, throughout history.

Further, it illustrates the lengths to which the JEWS go, in pursuing
their HOLOHOAX.


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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:49:09 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!



>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>
>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>>
>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>
>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>
>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>
>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>campaign.
>>
>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>THEM!!!
>>
>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>at Canada Post include:
>>
>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>>
>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>>
>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>
>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>
>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>
>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>disappearing!!!
>>
>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Read all the articles below!!!
>>
>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>stolen.
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>
>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>>
>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>>
>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>>
>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>been arrested.
>>
>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>>
>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>mail.
>>
>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>>
>>
>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>>
>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>>
>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>Registered items!!!!
>>
>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>>
>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>>
>>
>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>Rainer,
>>
>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>>
>>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>>
>>"Canadian Mail Warning
>>
>>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>tip of the iceberg.
>>
>>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>>
>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>>substantial losses.
>>
>>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>pay the higher cost.
>>
>>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>>
>>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>>
>>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>> writes
>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>>
>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>letters?
>>
>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>>
>>
>>
>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>USPS.
>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>as other media.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 20:51:21 +0100, joswig@lavielle.com (Rainer
Joswig) wrote:

>In article <366818c2.3693143@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>,
>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 15:56:19 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>> 
>> >One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>> >may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>> >who were in the German military!!!
>> One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
>> may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
>> who were in the German military!!!
>> 
>> Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide
>> for
>> themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.
>
>JEW lies, so they can continue to swindle Christians with their HOLOHOAX....

One MUST question the aspects of the HOLOHOAX, since many governments
may be gullible enough to pay for non-existent JEWS, or even for JEWS
who were in the German military!!!

Every normal person should consider the entire contents, and decide
for
themselves, whether any JEWS died in WWII.




someone@somewhere.com wrote:
 
> On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
> Holman) wrote: 
> >Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims 
> >made here.



> >1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
> >DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?

> >        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
> >individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
> >witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No 
> >mounds of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing 
> >the job, no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no 
> >records, no demographic statistics.

> >        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
> >forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
> >comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
> >figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.

> Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
> half of the original 600,000 JEWS in Germany were in the German
> military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
> extort money from gullible governments!!!
 
> >        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
> >RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
> >WORLD WAR TWO?
 
> >        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
> >interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German 
> >war effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of 
> >their race or national origin alone.
 
> >        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
> >CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
 
> >        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
> >their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
> >Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist 
> >subversion during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were 
> >highly overrepresented in government, commercial, and media 
> >positions.

> >However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger 
> >of internment once the war broke out.

> >        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
> >Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply 
> >because the German government had removed Jews from influential 
> >positions and transferred power back to the German people. The 
> >boycott order and the Jewish war against Germany were reported in 
> >the world print and broadcast media of the time. False stories of 
> >German "death camps" were in fact circulated even before the outbreak 
> >of World War Two. Therefore the German view of the Jewish people 
> >as enemy aliens would seem to have been fully justified.
 
> >        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
> >DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
 
> >        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
> >gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
 
> >        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS 
> >IT WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT 
> >WAS?

> >        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
> >murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
> >were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
> >chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official 
> >Holocaust lore because it became too difficult to maintain in 
> >the face of known fact and because Dachau was in the Allied 
> >occupation zone where access to the camp was too 
> >easy and unrestricted.
 
> >        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
> >version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning 
> >of the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
> >noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
> >official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
> >Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum.
 
> >        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF 
> >THAT GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED 
> >AT AUSCHWITZ?
 
> >        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz 
> >could not possibly have been used to carry out executions; 
> >it is far too small and it is not even airtight. 
> >In the 1980s, American expert Fred Leuchter, who builds gas chambers 
> >for American penal systems, took scrapings from the walls 
> >of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
> >analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit 
> >is a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.
 
> Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
> 1949, long after the war???

> >        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE 
> >PURPOSE?
 
> >        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
> >(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in 
> >the same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
> >correctional systems throughout the United States today.
 
> >        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
 
> >        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of 
> >hydrocyanic gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, 
> >including the fumigation of lice-infested clothing, 
> >the purpose for which it was applied at Auschwitz. 
> >Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
> >commonly used and available today.
 
> >        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
> >COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
 
> >        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
> >brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
> >figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
> >read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
> >Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
> >cross examined.
 
> >        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA 
> >FUMIGATED WITH ZYKLON-B?
 
> >        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
> >and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
> >only are employed.
 
> >        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
> >ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
> >THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
 
> >        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened 
> >like that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered 
> >the same fate as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
 
> >        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
> >CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
> >BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
 
> >        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the 
> >six million figure as well.
 
> >        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT 
> >SECRET FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE 
> >POPE, THE VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND 
> >ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE NOT KNOW?
 
> >        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
> >British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
> >been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
> >were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a 
> >potentially powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any 
> >contemporary evidence at all during the war that such an event was 
> >occurring.

> >        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
> >DURING THE WAR?
 
> >        About 300,000.
 
> >        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
 
> >        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
> >Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably 
> >appears whenever people are jammed together for long periods 
> >without bathing.It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. 
> >Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant 
> >purposes, more Jews  might have survived the concentration camps. 
> >Jewish prisoners (as well as many others) also died from starvation 
> >and lack of medical attention towards the end of the war 
> >when virtually all rail and road transport had come to a standstill 
> >due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
 
> >        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 
> >300,000 DIED?

> >        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
> >deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
> >exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
> >was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
> >identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
> >of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
> >the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
 
> >        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
> >BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD 
> >HAVE BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
 
> >        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
> >afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.
 
> >        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
 
> >        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed 
> >by flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated 
> >in open pits.
> >[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
> >observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
> >American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely 
> >to destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in 
> >any other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim 
> >otherwise are either parroting what they have been told without 
> >bothering to check their facts, or else they are lying.]

> >        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
> >BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A 
> >BODY ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
 
> >        About two hours.
 
> >        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
 
> >        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead 
> >from typhus and other diseases.
 
> >        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN 
> >ALL THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE 
> >MAXIMUM NUMBER OF CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO 
> >INCINERATE DURING THE ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
 
> >        About 430,600.
 
> >        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
 
> >        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
> >per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
> >when in heavy operation.
 
> >        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
> >CORPSE?
 
> >        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
> >time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
 
> >        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
> >HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
 
> >        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
> >produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have 
> >been no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz 
> >area or anywhere else in Europe.
 
> >        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE 
> >AIR, SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
 
> >        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the 
> >immense amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the 
> >camp, nor do they show any evidence of the alleged open 
> >pits where the bodies were burned.
 
> >        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT 
> >THE WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
 
> >        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
> >September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
> >packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
> >full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second 
> >World War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or 
> >any of the wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust.
 
> >        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
> >liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of 
> >articles claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". 
> >This charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated 
> >Jewish attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles 
> >steadily in the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
 
> >        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
 
> >        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
> >Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
> >conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
> >literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
> >diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
> >adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from 
> >the published text.
>
> >        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the 
> >actual writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. 
> >A Jewish judge in New York ordered the records of the court case 
> >sealed for 100 years.
> >When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
> >noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were 
> >interpolations written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, 
> >a writing instrument which was not invented until 1950. The original 
> >diary was swiftly removed from exhibit and whisked away 
> >into a safety deposit box inIsrael. It has never been produced for 
> >examination since then despite repeated attempts by scholars to view 
> >it.
 
> >        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
> >ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED 
> >CORPSES AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
 
> >        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
> >Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
> >Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
> >man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
> >of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
> >historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
> >the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine.
 
> >        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
> >atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
> >remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
> >the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
> >laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
> >be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of 
> >the fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme 
> >left-wing views and are as quick to apologize for and explain 
> >away Stalin's butcheries as they are to invent fraudulent crimes 
> >attributed to Adolf Hitler. The almost universally leftist 
> >political and social orientation of
> >Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind 
> >when examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
> >important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
> >the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken 
> >McVay's refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General 
> >Secretary Smith asked him why he did not condemn the 
> >mass murders of Stalin.)
 
> >        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
> >SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
 
> >        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
> >predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would 
> >certainlyhave been in a position to learn about it. Since no such 
> >plan existed,the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
 
> >        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
> >EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
 
> >        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
> >deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come 
> >tolight. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
> >Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering  
> >the extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis 
> >were meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were 
> >seized by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied 
> >archivists and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them 
> >all. Nothing. Zip. Nada.

> >        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
> >DURING THE WAR?
 
> >        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
> >from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
> >they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
> >official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
> >British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
> >Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
> >industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that 
> >Eichmann was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered 
> >in order to silence him.
 

> In Canada there was a detailed story in Toronto Life magazine about the 
> roles  of the Reichman and Gestetner families in providing assistance 
> to the Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public 
> exposure,and have tried to restrict distribution of this news, 
> which is available from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
 


> >        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED 
> >BY THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
 
> >        Slightly less than four million.
 
> >        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE 
> >THE NAZIS?
 
> >        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
> >kill them.
 
> >        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
> >HAPPENED TO THEM?
 
> >        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
> >States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 
> >300,000, they are all accounted for.
 
> >        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
> >TODAY?

> >        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
> >economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
> >sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
> >justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
> >dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
> >billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
> >growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
> >Jewish people to keep the scam going.
 
> >        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
> >WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
 
> >        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
> >They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, 
> >not real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals 
> >of events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
> >screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where 
> >Jews are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and 
> >the creative and financial sectors of film making.
 
> >        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
> >that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
> >begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, 
> >the character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in 
> >Spielberg's production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the 
> >point of being unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost 
> >saintly,  and yet none of those still living who remember 
> >the man have a single good word to say about him. The real Schindler 
> >was a confidence artist, a thief, a libertine and degenerate gambler 
> >who indulged freely in forced sexual relations with young 
> >female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
> >and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
> >money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
> >because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and 
> >events like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with 
> >the most bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
 
> >        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE 
> >SOME ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
 
> >        Over 100, with more in the works.
 
> >        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
> >ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?

> >        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
> >right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
> >freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
> >explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
> >unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
> >position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
> >genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
> >libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
> >subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
> >from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
 
> >        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
> >VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?

> >        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
> >always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
> >Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
> >called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
> >hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
> >express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
> >from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
> >have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
> >Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
> >ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
> >cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
 
> >        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
> >hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
> >giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those 
> >who ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the 
> >Holocaust are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned.
 
> >        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
> >him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
> >Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
> >Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an 
> >arson attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of 
> >show trials lasting over ten years, and after being finally acquitted 
> >he has been denied Canadian citizenship and is still battling 
> >attempts  to deport him to prison and torture in Germany.

> >        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
> >kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
> >lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
> >pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
> >legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
> >abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
> >only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
> >pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
> >distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder 
> >has been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists 
> >have been stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure 
> >in universities, victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs 
> >in the mail, and subjected to constant death threats 
> >from Jews and Marxists.

> >        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent 
> >people who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by 
> >trying to kill, imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. 
> >More than anything else, the behavior of the Jews and the 
> >governments they influence so strongly proves that the 
> >Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
> >neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
> >silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people 
> >who believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults 
> >and torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the 
> >part of the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have 
> >imposed the most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of 
> >humanity, and have used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, 
> >steal another people's country, and then to slaughter that country's 
> >original inhabitants at will, as according to National Public Radio 
> >they are doing even now as I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
 
> >        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
> >REVISIONISTS?
 
> >        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than 
> >ever to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the 
> >earth understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded 
> >them, and robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust 
> >lie. There can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the
> >Holocaust will be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at 
> >large for what it is: a politically inspired hoax.
 
> >NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
> >pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
> >information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
> >ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.


 
One MUST question the validity of the EXTORTION on gullible
governments
by the damn JEWS for alleged compensation.



If half of the German JEWS were in the German military, as the
attached
article documents, why give them any money??
 
---------- Forwarded message ----------
 Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
 From: stefan lemieszewski 
 Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
 
 From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
 that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
 ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals.
One
 group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
 
 The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in
England
 titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
 appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would
like
 to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
 Stefan Lemieszewski
 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
 North Shore News
 February 2, 1997
 
 Insights from abroad
 Doug Collins
 
 TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
 that is ignored in Canada.
 
 When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
 served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
 
 The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two
pages
 about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
 
 There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of
whom
 was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
 transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
 
 At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
 married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five
major
 generals, and 23 colonels.
 
 Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
 Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
 more. The research is continuing.
 
 Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied
France
 in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
 alive.
 
 Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
 father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
 
 Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
 whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
 
 A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked
in
 the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
 
 The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
 Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews
and
 he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long
investigation
 and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
 documents in the process.
 
 The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed
that
 Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew>
could 
 ever have fought for Hitler.
 
 A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
 the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
 
 He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
 about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
 ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
 
 Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may
be
 used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers
of
 Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
 what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
 
 British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into
an
 international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who
can
 produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of
the
 Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
 
 Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor
Helmut
 Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
 was a Jew.
 
 Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
 
 As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
 full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or
even
 one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
 
 But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
 Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was
Jewish.
 
 As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom
he
 knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced
to a
 term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
 
 A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
 
 After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and
obtained,
 the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox
Lubavitcher
 Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
 Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944
for
 plotting against Hitler.
 
 The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via
Latvia,
 and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a
Jew
 and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler
saw
 to it that he was discharged from the army.
 
 All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
 able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time
magazine. I
 wonder why?
 
 ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and
the
 right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published
in
 the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
 necessarily those of the newspaper itself.


>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
sven88


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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 16:46:32 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:

>One MUST question the alleged figure of the damn JEWS as to how many
>allegedly died in WWII.
>
>If there were half the JEWS of Germany in the German military, according
>to documentation, and only 10,000 supposedly died, that sure is a far
>cry from the figures used by the JEWs to extort money from many
>countries!!!
>
>No wonder so many people in many nations are starting to disbelieve the
>LIES of the JEWS!!!!
>
>
>
>
>tom moran wrote:
>
>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>> >> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>> >> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>> 
>> >> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>> >> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>> >> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>> >> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>> 
>> >> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>> >> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>> 
>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> North Shore News
>> >> February 2, 1997
>> >>
>> >> Insights from abroad
>> >> Doug Collins
>> >>
>> >> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>> >> that is ignored in Canada.
>> 
>> 
>> >> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>> >> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>> >> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>> >> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>> >> wonder why?
>> 
>>         Actually Riggs 'study' was reported in the L.A.Times and in some
>> Texas papers were he is from. To set and maintain the record, here is
>> a report on the L.A.Times version posted to alt.revisionism at the
>> time. The reason it found it's way into so many papers is because the
>> subject is supposed to portray the Jews as awesome. Rigg's study is
>> more the result of fantasy than academic research. It was said he
>> might write a book or something, but then don't count on it. It would
>> expose his stuff to verification and he (they) are relying on people
>> holding the notions from what was in the papers.
>> 
>>                       "The Jews in Hitler's Military"
>>                        L.A.Times, Dec. 24, 1996
>> 
>> "A young American is
>> documenting the stories
>> of Hundreds of German
>> veterans of Jewish descent.
>> Many lost family to the
>> Holocaust while serving the
>> Nazi regime."
>> 
>> LONDON--"Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>> mission, American Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no
>> man's land of Holocaust history.
>>         Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish descent ... who
>> served ...during the Holocaust, when the Nazis slaughtered 6 million
>> Jews.
>>         'Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the
>> Nazis called 'full Jews' served in the military but at the same time
>> exterminated their families.'
>>         On a heady journey of personal and professional discovery, the 25
>> year old Texan ... interviewed more than 300 of these veterans ...
>> Passed along from one old soldier to another, he has crisscrossed
>> Germany 4 times ...
>>         Rigg said he has documented the Jewish ancestry of more than 1200
>> of Hilter's soldiers including two field marshalls and 10 generals,
>> men commanding up to 100,000, ..."
>> 
>> [ That and the next line is the beginning of the real motive for the
>> story and why it would find it's way into the L.A.Times, the Judeo
>> supremacy publication. ]
>> 
>> "In about 20 cases, soldiers of Jewish heritage were awarded the
>> Knight's Cross, Germany's highest honor, he said."
>> 
>>         "This fall, Rigg, Yale '96, arrived at England Cambridge
>> University ... lugging his clothes ... documentation ... Jonathan
>> Steinberg, Cambridge historian, read Rigg's files and hurried to find
>> a safe place for them.
>> 
>> [[ Here we have a Jewish holding to the papers as dear. This would
>> indicate he thought they had something beneficial. ]]
>> 
>>         Along the way, Rigg, who is of German extraction and was raised
>> as a Protestant, has discovered that he too has Jewish ancestry. Like
>> many of the families he has visited, Rigg had distant relatives who
>> were killed for being Jewish--and others who died fighting in battle
>> for Nazi Germany."
>> 
>> [ I would say if Rigg's was confronted with a demand to stand
>> accountable to show his Jewish ancestry and to prove any events they
>> lived through it would result in some real embarrassment. Its all too
>> pat.
>> 
>> One of the more obvious points of this article reveals the racial
>> aspect of Judaism. ]
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>         The article being more than a half page long I will just cite the
>> relevant parts that throw suspicion on the accounts, the racist
>> connection and the reason it found it's way into the L.A.Times - to
>> hype Jewish supremacy.
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>>         "Many of the men Rigg meets cling to Nazi terminology, describing
>> themselves as half Jewish, half German."
>> 
>> [ Here we have the term "half Jewish" being designated "Nazi
>> terminology" when in fact it is a term used by Jews themselves and has
>> been referred to many times in medias and even movies. Not to mention
>> it is used to designate the racial status of any one else, 'half
>> Black', 'half Irish', etc.
>> 
>> The article does not lead to any evidential conclusion that any of the
>> Germans are half Jewish. It seems more like they would be quarter or
>> even eighth Jewish. ]
>> 
>>         "One of his discoveries was a 1944 German document listing 77
>> high ranking officers 'of mixed Jewish race or married to a Jew'. Two
>> generals, eight lieutenant generals, five major generals and 23
>> colonels."
>> 
>> [ It doesn't say how many were of "Jewish race" or how many were those
>> who were connected by marriage so we are to assume all of them. ]
>> 
>>         "'I don't think it ever occurred to go to a general's personal
>> file to see if he was Jewish', said Steinberg".
>> 
>> [ Not bothering to consider the ones that were just married to a Jew.]
>> 
>>         "... Hitler loathed Jews, but he also needed experienced
>> commanders and fighters".
>> 
>> [ So under the circumstances, there just wasn't enough to draw from
>> the measly German genetic stock for "experienced" "commanders" and
>> "fighters". ]
>> 
>>         "He (Rigg's) said there were at least a dozen exception lists
>> approved by Hitler--naming ranking officials not only in the armed
>> forces but in the civilian administration that worked with military.
>> One German civilian of Jewish heritage ..."
>> 
>> [ "One ,,,"  "German civilian" of "Jewish heritage"? ]
>> 
>>         ....
>> 
>>         "In interviews and research in Germany this month, Rigg found
>> still more Wehrmacht officers of Jewish descent ..."
>> 
>> [ More "officers" of Jewish "decent".  Another thing that is evident
>> in the article is glorifying Jewish descent as if it was the only
>> descent of value to speak of. We can take note that the ones found on
>> the list are "officers". ]
>> 
>>         ....
>> 
>>         "One Knight's Cross winner was reunited with his Jewish father in
>> England ..."
>> 
>> [ This is the first of three or four times the article mentions
>> "Jewish father". No where does it mention a Jewish mother, which is a
>> necessary technicality in the Jewish race to be rated a Jew. In fact
>> the only name mentioned in the whole article as being high ranking is
>> Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who had a Jewish father".]
>> 
>>         "Rigg also brought to light to folklore surrounding the
>> derring-do rescue ... Rigg has identified him as bayonet scarred,
>> bemedaled, Maj. Ernst Bloch ... whose father was Jewish."
>> 
>> [ The significance here of course is the "... derring-do ... Jewish
>> father" connection.]
>> 
>>         ....
>> 
>>         "About 100,000 Jews served in the German army in World War I, and
>> about 12,000 of them were killed."
>> 
>>         [ Now here would be very good place to start to look into Rigg's
>> project. Here we have "100,000" Jews said to have served in the German
>> army during World War I whereas Holocaust accounts have it that only
>> 300,000 Jews, all together, were in Germany prior to World War II.
>> Considering the age, sex aspect of any particular people, we would
>> have to recognize that if there were 100,000 German Jews fighting in
>> WWII there would be at least a million in all. It is so typical with
>> Holocaust/Jewish propaganda to have their facts and figures step all
>> over each other. Whatever, this is a real blunder. ]
>> 
>>         (The WWI) "...Veterans thought their service would protect them
>> against the Nazi crackdown ... When the transports came ... Some even
>> went to the gas chamber with their medals on."
>> 
>> [ Okay, we see again we have a heroic lot here with "medals". How
>> Rigg's came to find out how any of them went to the gas chambers, much
>> less with their medals on should be very interesting. Especially since
>> he says "some". If he had said 'one' this is something we could accept
>> as being in the realm of a possibility, but with the "some", well too
>> wayout. This is another one of those wacky yarns like all the rest of
>> the Holocaust eyewitness testimonies, which we must assume would be
>> the source for Rigg's blurt.
>> 
>> Since Holocaust accounts have the people were made to strip naked, we
>> can muse over how the heroic Jews came to still have their medals on.
>> 
>> How did Riggs come to get involved with the project? ]]
>> 
>>         "Rigg's quest began at Yale, when he started researching his
>> family history in Germany. First he learned that his
>> great-grandparents, who arrived as Protestants, had been born in
>> Germany as Jews."
>> 
>> [ Since then he has focused his identity on the two Jews from a
>> hundred years ago, and nothing in between seems to matter. Is it fact?
>> Who knows. ]
>> 
>>         "Then one night in 1992, he went to see 'Europa, Europa', a film
>> about a Jewish adolescent who hid out in the German army during World
>> War II. After the movie, Rigg's struck a conversation with an elderly
>> German Jew... and he listened until morning"
>> 
>> [ Now there we have a revealing particular of how he came to be
>> involved. The old man stayed up all night? ]
>> 
>>         So far it seems Rigg's has not written a book on the subject or
>> released any details of his story, so the world will have to wait
>> before anyone can go over the routes of his research. And perhaps
>> there may never be any. There are just to many problems to cover up
>> with this latest bravado.
>> 
>>         On top of it all the Judeo/Holocaust propaganda is further
>> compromised when trying to fit all the talk about "Jewish", "field
>> marshalls", "generals" and medal winners in with something like Daniel
>> Goldhagen's book, 'Ordinary Germans, Hitler's Willing Executioners"
>> which strives to show all the Germans, and especially high ranking
>> military people knew about and willingly contributed to the
>> exterminations of millions of Jews.
>
>>         In another twist, this article and thus Rigg's, seem to strive to
>> show and glorify Jews by claiming high position and heroic
>> accomplishment in the very German machine the Holocaust story works so
>> hard at portraying as evil.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:47:22 +0800, KenSicko  
tried to write in English, the following:

On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:09:11 +0100, joswig@lavielle.com (Rainer
Joswig) wrote:
>> >On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>> >>                   By Dr. E. R. Fields
>
>Wasn't this article written my Dr. I. M. Stupid?
Not unless that is your professional designation and alias.

>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>>                   By Dr. E. R. Fields
>>
>>   The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>world's sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>actual took place.
>>
>>              NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON'T ADD UP
>>
>>   The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine."
>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>>   With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>holocaust "survivors" had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>that in the Jews real "bible", The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>>   The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>having been put to death "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz."
>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>these figures which today are accepted as "gospel truth".
>>   It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>"extermination camp".
>>
>>             HIMMLER-"REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS"
>>
>>   Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that "The death rate in the
>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source,
>>Reitlinger's book, "The Final Solution.")
>>   The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler's
>>order on Jan 20, 1943, "Every means will be used to lower the
>>death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>>   On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>in the "shockingly high mortality figures." (Source: Nuremberg
>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>2.8% in June 1943.
>>   The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of "extermination?"
>>   With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>"Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>Criminals". It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>>
>>                  THE  PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>>
>>   In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>states in the paper, "Books and Bookmen", April 1975, page 5,
>>"No gassing took place in any camp on German soil."
>>   The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>>
>>   This brings up the following questions.
>>   1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>>   2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>MASS GASSINGS!
>>   3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>died from typhus.
>>   4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>the response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have
>>not spoken of them." (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>1946.)
>>
>>             FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>>
>>   Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such "confessions" are about
>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>1936. The communists wrote the "Confession' and Hoess signed it.
>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>died in his cell.
>>   Hoess statement read, "half an hour after having released the
>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>smoking."
>>   Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not "ventable". The manufacturers state
>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>workers ran into the gas chamber "eating and smoking" - without
>>gas masks - only minutes after the gassing - IF THIS OCCURRED
>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>>
>>                    GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>>
>>   The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, "The Capture and Trial
>>of Adolph Eichmann" pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>"became immediately gaseous."
>>   The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: "We know of
>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air."
>>
>>                  CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>>
>>   Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), "We knew when the people
>>were dead because their screaming stopped." If anyone were
>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>which carry typhus.
>>
>>               THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>>
>>   At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT'S ALL!  In these three
>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>ovens were very small with only 18' doors and a time period of
>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>>   A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>William L. Shirer's book, "The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>Reich." It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company's ovens.
>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>>   "The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>burning."
>>   WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>>   On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people - this would
>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>ashes.
>>   It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>could be found. The official answer was that it was "taken to
>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!"
>>
>>           WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>>
>>   Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>1967. "It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>systematic extermination in those camps."
>>   Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: "I was at
>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there."
>>   Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>"The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie - the
>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time."
>>   Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. "The
>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel."
>>
>>                WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>>
>>   Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>holocaust which never occurred?
>>   Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, "Not
>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists."
>>   S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, "The
>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>will cowtow to the Jews."
>>   Zionist spokesmen often boast of: "The shattering effect of
>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews."
>>   Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>condemned as being "anti-Semitic" and "insensitive" to holocaust
>>victims.
>>   The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>laws.
>>
>>                 A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>>
>>   The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>38 years. When they don't use the holocaust the money collection
>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>>
>>                 HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>>
>>   Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>Zionist political goals.
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:05:12 GMT, bark2000@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>It would be better of you to take your medicine instead of writing
>hundreds stupid messages like this one.


Thanks for republishing all the jokes.
People need a joke, so they can laugh at their misfortunes.
I am sure that the Jews will thank you also.



>> On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:48:22 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:

>> >JEWISH JOKES
>> >
>> >How was copper wiring invented?
>> >Two Jews fighting over a penny!
>> >
>> >
>> >How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
>> >They put parking meters on the roof!
>> >
>> >
>> >Why is money green?
>> >Because Jews pick it before it's ripe!
>> >
>> >
>> >What candy did Hitler hate more then any other?
>> >Jew Jew Beans... Although I heard he enjoyed them "roasted!"
>> >
>> >
>> >If Tarzan and Jane were Jewish, what would Cheetah be?
>> >A fur coat!
>> >
>> >
>> >Why don't Jews eat pork?
>> >They may be a lot of things, but CANNIBALS they're not!
>> >
>> >
>> >Why aren't Jews attacked by sharks?
>> >Professional courtesy!
>> >
>> >
>> >Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
>> >Let one in, and he'll keep the rest out.
>> >
>> >
>> >What's the Jewish version of foreplay?
>> >Half an hour of begging.
>> >
>> >
>> >How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
>> >She's the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!
>> >
>> >
>> >Did you hear about the new tires, Firestein?
>> >They not only stop on a dime, they also pick it up!
>> >
>> >
>> >What's the difference between a circumcision and crucifixion?
>> >In a crucifixion, they throw the whole Jew out!
>> >
>> >
>> >Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
>> >Someone dropped a quarter!
>> >
>> >
>> >Why do Jews have such big noses?
>> >Because air is free.
>> >
>> >
>> >What did the Jewish mother ask her daughter when she learned she had
>> >an
>> >affair?
>> >Who catered it?
>> >
>> >
>> >What happens when a Jew with an erection walks into a wall?
>> >He breaks his nose.
>> >
>> >
>> >What's a Jewish dilemma?
>> >Free ham.
>> >
>> >
>> >What's the difference between a Jewish bitch and a barracuda?
>> >Nail polish.
>> >
>> >
>> >What's the difference between an elephant and a Jew?
>> >An elephant eventually forgets.
>> >
>> >
>> >A nigger was walking down the street, kicking some rubbish out of his
>> >way,
>> >when he spotted something amid the trash that gleamed
>> >strangely. It urned out to be an oddly shaped bottle, and when he
>> >rubbed it, a
>> >Jewish genie appeared. "I'll give you two wishes," quipped
>> >the genie. "Far out," said the black man. "First, I want to be white,
>> >uptight,
>> >and out of sight!" Second, I want to be surrounded by warm,
>> >sweet pussy. So the genie turned him into a TAMPON! The moral of this
>> >story:
>> >You can't get anything from a Jew without strings
>> >attached!


>> >How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
>> >Marry her!

>> >Why do jewish bitches only sleep with circumcised men?
>> >They want 20% off everything!

>> >What's the difference between between karate and judo?
>> >Karate is a form of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.

>> >Did you hear that the limbo was invented by the Jews?
>> >Yeah, from sneaking into pay toilets.

>> >What's the definition of a queer Jew?
>> >Someone that likes girls more then money.

>> >What do you call ten Jewish bitches in a basement?
>> >A WHINE cellar.
>> >
>> >Why did the Jewish mother have herself entombed at Bloomingdales?
>> >So her daughter would visit at least twice a week.

>> >What's the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
>> >A vulture waits until you're dead to eat your heart out!


>> >On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0700, "WaRR" 
>> >wrote:

>> >>what do you get when you cross a jewish women and an arab women??
>> >>oil of no lay!!

>> >>=what is the difference between karate and judo?
>> >>karate is the art of self-defense, and judo is what bagels aremade of.

>> >>=i knew a jewish woman once who thought the apostle's creed was
>> >>what fought rocky balboa.

>> >>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a toilet?
>> >>a toilet doesn't follow you around for 9 months after you use it.

>> >>=did you hear that al italia and el al were merging to form a new airline?
>> >>it's called well i'll tell ya.=what do you call a jewish woman's waterbed?
>> >>the dead sea. second prize: lake placid.

>> >>=how was copper wire invented?
>> >> by 2 jews fighting over a penny.

>> >>=why are jewish men circumcised?
>> >> because jewish women won't buy anything unless it's 20% off.

>> >>=what do you call an uncircumcised jewish baby?
>> >>a girl.

>> >>=what do you get when you cross a jewish british princess & a computer?
>> >>a computer that never goes down on you.

>> >>=what's a jewish british princess' favorite wine?
>> >> i wanna go to palmsprings.

>> >>=how do you know a jewish british princess has an orgasm?
>> >>she drops her nail file.

>> >>=what do you have when you get 3 jewish british princesses together
>> >>with 3 other women who have yeast infections?a whine and cheese party.

>> >>=how many jewish british princesses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>> >>two, one to get a diet coke and one to call daddy.

>> >>=why do jewish girls like prostitution?
>> >>because they can sell it again and again and again.

>> >>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and jello?
>> >>jello moves when you eat it.

>> >>=how does a jewish british princess do it doggie style?
>> >>she makes him beg for an hour.

>> >>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a catholic
>> >>british princess?
>> >>the catholic british princess has fake jewelry and real orgasms.

>> >>=what's the difference between jews and canoes?
>> >>canoes tip.   ( THIS ONE FREAKS ME OUT :)))))

>> >>=what's the difference between jews and pizzas?
>> >>pizzas don't scream when you put them in the oven.

>> >>=what is a jewish dilemma?
>> >>free ham.

>> >>=what do you call a jewish piano?
>> >>a cash register.

>> >>=how many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
>> >>none. they are used to sitting in the dark.

>> >>=did you hear about the rabbi who did free circumcisions?
>> >>he only took tips.

>> >>=how many jews can you fit in a vw?
>> >>two in the front, two in the back, and ten thousand in the ash tray.

>> >>=a priest, a baptist minister, and a rabbi were asked how they would
>> >>divide up some gold coins between themselves and god. the priest
>> >>replied, "i'd draw a line down the middle of the room, throw the
>> >>coins in the air, and whatever landed on one side goes to god,
>> >>the other to me." the minister replied, "i'd draw a circle in
>> >>the middle of the room, and whatever lands inside is for god,
>> >>outside for me." the rabbi's answer was, he wouldn't draw any
>> >>line, just throw the money in the air and whatever god caughthe could keep.

>> >>=an italian, a jew, and a homosexual were walking down the street and
>> >>were hit by the same bolt of lightning. next thing they know they're
>> >>in front of st. peter begging for a second chance. "ok," he says,
>> >>"but on one condition: you must give up that which you love the most.
>> >>if you don't, you go straight to hell." after agreeing, they find
>> >>themselves back on the street and they start walking again. a few
>> >>blocks down they pass a pizza store. "i can't help myself!" says the
>> >>italian... he goes in, takes a bite of pizza, and poof!, he
>> >>disappears. so the jew and the homosexual continue walking
>> >>down the street. the jew sees a penny on the sidewalk. "i can't
>> >>help myself!" he says. he reaches for the penny and poof! the
>> >>homosexual disappears.

>> >>yours truly
>> >>WaRR




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On 14 Nov 1998 02:01:21 +0200, vaget@apex.dp.ua wrote:

>Dear People from Muslim World:
>Immigration To Canada
> To obtain a Canadian Visa for:
>     (1) Permanent Residence
>     (2) Sponsorship
>     (3) Student Visa
>     (4) Business Programs and Investment
>
This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!


By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in
Canada??




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On 14 Nov 1998 02:01:21 +0200, vaget@apex.dp.ua wrote:

>Dear People from Muslim World:
>Immigration To Canada
> To obtain a Canadian Visa for:
>     (1) Permanent Residence
>     (2) Sponsorship
>     (3) Student Visa
>     (4) Business Programs and Investment
>
This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!


By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in
Canada??




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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:20:55 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>Is this any less fraudulent than the Neil Sher case in the USA???
>
>
>Isn't this the same JEW charged with perjury in connection with the
>Demjanjuk case???
>
>
>On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:29:13 GMT, Stefan Lemieszewski
> wrote:
>
>>The following forwarded CP article is posted at  the Ukrainian Archive
>>website under the caption "Neal Sher should be sent packing" at:
>>
>>www.ukar.org
>>
>>Neal Sher headed the U.S. Office of Special Investigations (OSI) of the
>>U.S. Department of Justice for many years. Recently, he was hired as a
>>consultant by Anne McLellan, the Canadian Justice Minister.
>>
>>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>April 28, 1998
>>
>>U.S. Nazi hunter admits he's under investigation for perjury
>>
>>OTTAWA (CP) — A top Nazi hunter hired to help Canada pursue suspected
>>war criminals is
>>under investigation for perjury by the Justice Department in the United
>>States.
>>
>>     Neal Sher, a Washington lawyer, told the Commons justice committee
>>Wednesday that he
>>is being investigated by the Office of Professional Responsibility, a
>>unit of the U.S. Justice Department that handles complaints about
>>attorneys.
>>
>>     The allegations date back to 1990 when Sher was director of the
>>U.S. Office of Special Investigations, which is responsible for hunting
>>Nazi war criminals in the United States.
>>
>>     The office has been accused of withholding evidence that might have
>>been helpful to the case of Andrija Artukovic, a California resident who
>>was extradited to Yugoslavia for war crimes during the Second World
>>War.  Sher said he has been assured that the allegations against him are
>>groundless, but no official verdict has been rendered.
>>
>>     John Sims, assistant deputy attorney general, said he was not aware
>>of the investigation when he hired Sher as a consultant to help the
>>federal government track down war criminals.
>>
>>     Sims said he found out about it a couple of days ago from a
>>colleague in his department.  He said he has not mentioned the fact to
>>Solicitor General Andy Scott.
>>
>>     Sher was summoned to appear before the committee at the request of
>>members who say they have been hearing concerns about his role and
>>background.
>>
>>     Conservative MP Peter MacKay said Sher should be dismissed from his
>>job advising the federal Justice Department.
>>
>>     "It's a little shocking to think that somebody that is being relied
>>on heavily by the Canadian government is himself under investigation for
>>potential — and I key on the word potential — frauds perpetrated on the
>>court," said McKay, a former Crown attorney.
>>
>>     "It comes as a bit of a disappointment that the Canadian government
>>didn't do their research first and have that knowledge themselves.  I
>>think he should be paid for his advice and sent packing."
>>
>>     Reform MP Jack Ramsay said he was surprised at Sher's statement
>>that allegations against him are unfounded.
>>
>>     "What I found interesting is that investigation is not over and yet
>>he knows the results of it at least in part."
>>
>>     Sims said Sher is working for the Justice Department two or three
>>days a month and gets paid $200 US per hour.  He said Sher's advice has
>>been helpful.
>>
>>     Much of the Sher's testimony before the committee dealt with his
>>role in the extradition from the United States of John Demjanjuk, who
>>was accused of being a Nazi death camp guard known as Ivan the Terrible.
>>
>>     Demjanjuk was eventually acquitted of war-crimes charges in Israel
>>and returned to Ohio.
>>
>>     Sher conceded there were errors in the handling of the case.  The
>>Canadian Jewish Conference issued a statement Wednesday strongly
>>endorsing Sher's engagement as a consultant.
>>
>>     "Examining the totality of Mr. Sher's career at the Office of
>>Special Investigations and after reveals a record of outstanding success
>>and energy in bringing alleged Nazi war criminals to the bar of
>>justice," the statement said.
>>
>
>On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:42:33 -0500, "Saabirah" 
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Ibrahim Dughlas-Gani wrote in message ...
>>>
>>>brother Ali, you should stop posting Neo-Nazi literature to usenet.  As a
>>>Muslim, you should have nothing to do with evil right wing scum.  Zionism
>>>itself may be evil, but Nazism and it's revived offspring are even worse.
>>>
>>Agreed.
>>
>>waSalaam
>>
>>Saabirah
>>



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On Sat, 25 Apr 1998 13:24:18 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org decided
>to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>>In article <353fd933.625226@news.datanet.ab.ca>, torquemada@inquisition.org
>>>writes:
>
>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>
>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>
>Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>weren't illegal.
>
>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>reports to prove this!!!
>
>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 
>
>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>other references  below, cited.
>
>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>>Sir,
>>>  You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>an open liar?
>>>                               irgun43
>
>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>>> >Yesss!
>
>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>
>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>
>>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>
>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>> deportations."]
>
>                         ____________________________
>
>>>> Or how about this?
>
>>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge and approval.
>
>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>> Aryan.''
>
>>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>
>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
> 
>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
> 
>>>> Sources:
> 
>>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
> 
>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>> by Reuters
>
>>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
> 
>>>> See also:
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>
>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>> served in Nazi army
>
>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>> Los Angeles Times
>
>>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>> of Holocaust history.
>
>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>
>>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>> whole story.]
>>>> 
>>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:30:43 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>What is the final number of wealthy Chinese who returned to Hong Kong
>in 1997?
>
>The 200,000 refers only to the first 6 months of 1997.
>This must have put a major economic drain on the economies of those
>cities such as Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton, where Chinese used to
>locate.
>
>On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:26:44 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>>extortionate taxes in Canada.
>
>>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!
>
>>The same day that the Auditor-general of canada exposed this, the
>>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.
>
>>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>>returns.
>
>>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>>Income Taxes.
>
>>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in vancouver,
>>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>>have also closed down many businesses.
>
>>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>>country.
>
>
>>>In article <19971007201501.QAA07156@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
>>>  clturnomad@aol.com (Clturnomad) wrote:
>
>>>> I am doing research for an article I am writing about Hong Kong, and I am
>>>>  interested in people's response to the following question:
>
>>>> In the last few years, there has been a surge of "returnees" to Hong Kong -
>>>>  people who left the territory to get a foreign passport, and have now
>>>>  returned.  My question is this:  Why do Hong Kong people who have emigrated
>>>>  to, say, Canada or the US, and maybe even spent years living in their new
>>>>  home, feel the desire to return to Hong Kong?  Is there anything about Hong
>>>>  Kong that is really that much better than the US or Canada?
>
>
>On 31 Oct 1998 06:00:34 GMT, Spehro Pefhany 
>wrote:
>
>>In soc.culture.china Patrick Cheong  wrote:
>>> When they migrated to Canada, only the income and asserts within Canada were
>>> taxable.
>>> Then the Canadians amended to law to include all asserts abroad to be
>>> taxable.
>>> The only way to avoid this tax but keeping the Canadian citizenship is to
>>> declare themselves as non-residential Canadians and move everything out of
>>> Canada.
>
>
>
>>Nonsense. Worldwide income has always been taxed for Canadian residents
>>(at least in the last 20 years). Assets abroad are not taxed, only income
>>(which often results from assets) or capital gains (from selling assets).
>>
>>There was a reporting law enacted recently which requires reporting of
>>foreign assets and severely punishes not reporting them. 
>>
>>Some people may think that it is unfair for Canada to tax money made
>>entirely outside the country because the owner is a Canadian resident,
>>others think it to be entirely fair. Anyway, it is the law. The US is even
>>more extreme and taxes its citizens even if they are not resident. 



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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:35:39 -0500, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
 wrote:

>Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.
This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!


By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in
Canada??



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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 07:27:09 +1300, "Dave Joll" 
wrote:
>>This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
>>criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

>Have the CIA been to see you yet, about your export of
>computer programs to Cuba, in defiance of the Helms
>Burton Act?

Since Canada is not yet a part of the USA, Helms-Burton has no effect
in Canada, dummkopf!!!

On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:35:39 -0500, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
 wrote:

>Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.
This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!


By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in
Canada??
sven 88



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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:48:25 +1300, brian.harmer@vuw.ac.nz (Brian
Harmer) wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:08:38 +1300, "Dave Joll" 
>wrote:

>>>>Have the CIA been to see you yet, about your export of
>>>>computer programs to Cuba, in defiance of the Helms
>>>>Burton Act?
> 
>>>Since Canada is not yet a part of the USA, Helms-Burton has no effect
>>>in Canada,
> 
>>In that case you misunderstand the Helms Burton Act.
>>Its main aim is to prevent citizens of and companies
>>based in countries other than the United States from
>>trading with Cuba.
>
>And you apparently don't grasp the concept of national sovereignty.
>Reuters reported on October 28 1996 "EU Foreign Ministers agreed ...
>to make it illegal for Europeans to obey Washington's anti-Cuban
>Helms-Burton Act."
>
>Likewise, Canada introduced legislation making compliance with
>Helms-Burton illegal in that country. Another web site records:
>
>  "Canada and Mexico, in particular,flatly rejected the Helms-Burton
>  law as a means for achieving democracy in Cuba (Economist 9/7/96).
>  Even the Organization of American States, which has a long history
>  of supporting American policy towards Cuba, criticized the increased
>  sanctions on Cuba on June 5, 1996"
>
>International reaction  to this quasi-legal imperialism was such the
>President Clinton suspended Title III of the act in January 1997 and
>has done so every six months since. Litigation is in process with the
>World Trade Organization. 
>
>We in New Zealand don't need to make it illegal ... we are just not
>subject to the authority of US legislation.


Glad to see that tyhe cretin from NZ is but an aberration, probably
caused by defective genes??


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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 04:14:52 GMT,  wrote:

>I can't give you any Polish input, being Ukrainian, 

One must assume that you are functionally illiterate, in both English
and Ukrainian.

Perhaps others will be better able to comment.

On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:

>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.      


>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>>        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>>        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>>        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>>        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>>        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>>        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German "death camps" were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>>        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>>        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>>        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>   
>>>>        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted. 
>>>
>>>>        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum. 
>>>
>>>>        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>>        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.        
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>>        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>>        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>>        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>>        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>>        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>>        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>>        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>>        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>>        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>>        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>>        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>  
>>>>        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well. 
>>>
>>>>        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>>        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring. 
>>>
>>>>        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        About 300,000.
>>>
>>>>        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>>        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>>        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>>        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
>>>
>>>>        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>>        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.        
>>>
>>>>        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>>        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>>        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>>        About two hours.
>>>
>>>>        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>>        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>>        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>>        About 430,600.
>>>
>>>>        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>>        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>>        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>        
>>>>        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>>        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>>        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>>        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>>        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>>        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
>>>
>>>>        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust. 
>>>
>>>>        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>>        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>>        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text. 
>>>
>>>>        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it. 
>>>
>>>>        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>>>>man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine. 
>>>
>>>>        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin's butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay's
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>>        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>       
>>>>        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>>        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>>        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada. 
>>>
>>>>        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>>        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>>        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>>        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>>        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>>        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>>        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>>        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making. 
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg's
>>>>production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>>        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>>        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>>        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>>        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned. 
>>>
>>>>        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany. 
>>>
>>>>        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>>        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people's
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country's original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>>        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>>        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew> could 
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser
sven88



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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:45:43 -0500, Sandor Kerekes 
wrote:

That he did not like the TRUTH about the cursed Christkillers on
Internet.....


>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 05:16:58 +1100, "AussiCro" 
>> wrote:

>> HOW CAN ONE DENY THE TRUTH, WHICH HAPPENED ONLY LAST YEAR AND WAS
>> PUBLICISED WORLDWIDE?
>>
>> DO  YOU SUPPORT THE ANTI-CHRISTIAN ACTIONS OF THE CURSED CHRISTKILLERS
>> - THE JEWS??
>>
>> >sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote in message
>> >>>On Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:00:33 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>> >>>wrote:

>> >>>>OyVay & NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just do not like for the world to know how
>> >>>>rotten, and anti-Christian the cursed JEWS really are!!!
>>
>> >>>>In Canada, the damned JEWS even had the Cross removed from the
>> >>>>cenotaph, for the Remembrance Day ceremonies!!
>>
>> >>>>Article attached.
>>
>> >>>>There has been worldwide revulsion, and complaints about the damned
>> >>>>JEWS for doing this.
>>
>> >>>>On 26 Nov 1997 04:07:29 GMT, jbellingxx@aol.com (Jbellingxx) wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>Why does Nizkor list ISP's on their Web-site for everyone who disagrees
>> >with
>> >>>>>their opinions?  Why do they do that?  Why do they list instructions on
>> >how to
>> >>>>>mail bomb people who disagree with their opinions-these champions of
>> >social
>> >>>>>justice and free speech?  Sing to "Happy days are here again:
>>
>> >>>>>McCarthy Days are here again
>> >>>>>The Nizkooks strike but you won't know when
>> >>>>>get a mail bomb sent from yer old pal Ken
>> >>>>>Nizkook days are here again
>>
>> >>>>>They'll publicize your ISP's
>> >>>>>They'd like to have you on your knees
>> >>>>>They're busier than a nest of bees
>> >>>>>Nizkook days are here again
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>protect your precious CD rom
>> >>>>>Watch out before you are mail bombed
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>They love to put in false complaints
>> >>>>>Beware of lies the Nizkook paints
>> >>>>>Within this group one will find no saints
>> >>>>>Nizkook days are here again....
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Ach!  I'm a song writer!  Move over, Irving Berlin!
>> >>>>>Ich bin noch ein Berliner!


>> >>>In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>> >>>Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.

>> >>>Len Dolgoy, past president of the Jewish Federation of Edmonton, and
>> >>>also the regional representative on the Canadian Jewish Congress,  had
>> >>>arranged for the removal of the Cross at the Remembrance day
>> >>>celebrations.
>>
>> >>>The Strathcona Legion, representing victims and their families fielded
>> >>>many complaints, particularly from war widows and others who had lost
>> >>>family members.
>>
>> >>>Mind you, the same JEWS do not mind that they will be having a 25 foot
>> >>>scrap iron menorah cluttering up the lawn in front of the provincial
>> >>>Parliament Buildings, to supposedly celebrate the JEW holiday of
>> >>>Hannukah!!!!
>>
>> >>>It seems that the JEWs can have their religious symbol in front of the
>> >>>public, but the Cross, representing the millions of Christians who
>> >>>died, is not to be permitted!!!!
>>
>> sven 88
>
>



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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:05:12 GMT, bark2000@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>It would be better of you to take your medicine instead of writing
>hundreds stupid messages like this one.


Thanks for republishing all the jokes.
People need a joke, so they can laugh at their misfortunes.
I am sure that the Jews will thank you also.



>> On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:48:22 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:

>> >JEWISH JOKES
>> >
>> >How was copper wiring invented?
>> >Two Jews fighting over a penny!
>> >
>> >
>> >How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
>> >They put parking meters on the roof!
>> >
>> >
>> >Why is money green?
>> >Because Jews pick it before it's ripe!
>> >
>> >
>> >What candy did Hitler hate more then any other?
>> >Jew Jew Beans... Although I heard he enjoyed them "roasted!"
>> >
>> >
>> >If Tarzan and Jane were Jewish, what would Cheetah be?
>> >A fur coat!
>> >
>> >
>> >Why don't Jews eat pork?
>> >They may be a lot of things, but CANNIBALS they're not!
>> >
>> >
>> >Why aren't Jews attacked by sharks?
>> >Professional courtesy!
>> >
>> >
>> >Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
>> >Let one in, and he'll keep the rest out.
>> >
>> >
>> >What's the Jewish version of foreplay?
>> >Half an hour of begging.
>> >
>> >
>> >How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
>> >She's the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!
>> >
>> >
>> >Did you hear about the new tires, Firestein?
>> >They not only stop on a dime, they also pick it up!
>> >
>> >
>> >What's the difference between a circumcision and crucifixion?
>> >In a crucifixion, they throw the whole Jew out!
>> >
>> >
>> >Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
>> >Someone dropped a quarter!
>> >
>> >
>> >Why do Jews have such big noses?
>> >Because air is free.
>> >
>> >
>> >What did the Jewish mother ask her daughter when she learned she had
>> >an
>> >affair?
>> >Who catered it?
>> >
>> >
>> >What happens when a Jew with an erection walks into a wall?
>> >He breaks his nose.
>> >
>> >
>> >What's a Jewish dilemma?
>> >Free ham.
>> >
>> >
>> >What's the difference between a Jewish bitch and a barracuda?
>> >Nail polish.
>> >
>> >
>> >What's the difference between an elephant and a Jew?
>> >An elephant eventually forgets.
>> >
>> >
>> >A nigger was walking down the street, kicking some rubbish out of his
>> >way,
>> >when he spotted something amid the trash that gleamed
>> >strangely. It urned out to be an oddly shaped bottle, and when he
>> >rubbed it, a
>> >Jewish genie appeared. "I'll give you two wishes," quipped
>> >the genie. "Far out," said the black man. "First, I want to be white,
>> >uptight,
>> >and out of sight!" Second, I want to be surrounded by warm,
>> >sweet pussy. So the genie turned him into a TAMPON! The moral of this
>> >story:
>> >You can't get anything from a Jew without strings
>> >attached!


>> >How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
>> >Marry her!

>> >Why do jewish bitches only sleep with circumcised men?
>> >They want 20% off everything!

>> >What's the difference between between karate and judo?
>> >Karate is a form of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.

>> >Did you hear that the limbo was invented by the Jews?
>> >Yeah, from sneaking into pay toilets.

>> >What's the definition of a queer Jew?
>> >Someone that likes girls more then money.

>> >What do you call ten Jewish bitches in a basement?
>> >A WHINE cellar.
>> >
>> >Why did the Jewish mother have herself entombed at Bloomingdales?
>> >So her daughter would visit at least twice a week.

>> >What's the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
>> >A vulture waits until you're dead to eat your heart out!


>> >On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0700, "WaRR" 
>> >wrote:

>> >>what do you get when you cross a jewish women and an arab women??
>> >>oil of no lay!!

>> >>=what is the difference between karate and judo?
>> >>karate is the art of self-defense, and judo is what bagels aremade of.

>> >>=i knew a jewish woman once who thought the apostle's creed was
>> >>what fought rocky balboa.

>> >>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a toilet?
>> >>a toilet doesn't follow you around for 9 months after you use it.

>> >>=did you hear that al italia and el al were merging to form a new airline?
>> >>it's called well i'll tell ya.=what do you call a jewish woman's waterbed?
>> >>the dead sea. second prize: lake placid.

>> >>=how was copper wire invented?
>> >> by 2 jews fighting over a penny.

>> >>=why are jewish men circumcised?
>> >> because jewish women won't buy anything unless it's 20% off.

>> >>=what do you call an uncircumcised jewish baby?
>> >>a girl.

>> >>=what do you get when you cross a jewish british princess & a computer?
>> >>a computer that never goes down on you.

>> >>=what's a jewish british princess' favorite wine?
>> >> i wanna go to palmsprings.

>> >>=how do you know a jewish british princess has an orgasm?
>> >>she drops her nail file.

>> >>=what do you have when you get 3 jewish british princesses together
>> >>with 3 other women who have yeast infections?a whine and cheese party.

>> >>=how many jewish british princesses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>> >>two, one to get a diet coke and one to call daddy.

>> >>=why do jewish girls like prostitution?
>> >>because they can sell it again and again and again.

>> >>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and jello?
>> >>jello moves when you eat it.

>> >>=how does a jewish british princess do it doggie style?
>> >>she makes him beg for an hour.

>> >>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a catholic
>> >>british princess?
>> >>the catholic british princess has fake jewelry and real orgasms.

>> >>=what's the difference between jews and canoes?
>> >>canoes tip.   ( THIS ONE FREAKS ME OUT :)))))

>> >>=what's the difference between jews and pizzas?
>> >>pizzas don't scream when you put them in the oven.

>> >>=what is a jewish dilemma?
>> >>free ham.

>> >>=what do you call a jewish piano?
>> >>a cash register.

>> >>=how many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
>> >>none. they are used to sitting in the dark.

>> >>=did you hear about the rabbi who did free circumcisions?
>> >>he only took tips.

>> >>=how many jews can you fit in a vw?
>> >>two in the front, two in the back, and ten thousand in the ash tray.

>> >>=a priest, a baptist minister, and a rabbi were asked how they would
>> >>divide up some gold coins between themselves and god. the priest
>> >>replied, "i'd draw a line down the middle of the room, throw the
>> >>coins in the air, and whatever landed on one side goes to god,
>> >>the other to me." the minister replied, "i'd draw a circle in
>> >>the middle of the room, and whatever lands inside is for god,
>> >>outside for me." the rabbi's answer was, he wouldn't draw any
>> >>line, just throw the money in the air and whatever god caughthe could keep.

>> >>=an italian, a jew, and a homosexual were walking down the street and
>> >>were hit by the same bolt of lightning. next thing they know they're
>> >>in front of st. peter begging for a second chance. "ok," he says,
>> >>"but on one condition: you must give up that which you love the most.
>> >>if you don't, you go straight to hell." after agreeing, they find
>> >>themselves back on the street and they start walking again. a few
>> >>blocks down they pass a pizza store. "i can't help myself!" says the
>> >>italian... he goes in, takes a bite of pizza, and poof!, he
>> >>disappears. so the jew and the homosexual continue walking
>> >>down the street. the jew sees a penny on the sidewalk. "i can't
>> >>help myself!" he says. he reaches for the penny and poof! the
>> >>homosexual disappears.

>> >>yours truly
>> >>WaRR




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On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:00:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>>
>>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>>
>>>DAILY MAIL
>>>Monday June 15 1998
>>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>>
>>>
>>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>>
>>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>>
>>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>>
>>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>>
>>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>>
>>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>>
>>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>>
>>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>>to clear his name.
>>>
>>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>>
>>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>>
>>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>>
>>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>>where his wife and children live.
>>>
>>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>>to examine their records.
>>>
>>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>>with the family.
>>>
>>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>>
>>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>>
>>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>>
>>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>>
>>>
>>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>>end of this month.
>>>
>>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>>
>>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>>
>>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>>
>>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>>other cities in Britain.
>>>
>>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>>
>>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>>Britain today.'
>>>
>>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
>>>
>>>--------------------------------------
>>>



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:56:26 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:04:59 -0500, "Shabati..Zvi Äbuishneineh"
> wrote:
>
>>SJAFAR@newsnet., new wrote:
>>> 
>>> Investigators reportedly have opened several graves of Yemenite Jewish
>>> babies and found them to be empty - a discovery that might support
>>> claims that Yemenite children were taken from their parents for adoption
>>> decades ago.
>>> 
>>> For years, Yemenite activists have claimed hundreds of babies declared
>>> dead were actually given to adoptive parents of European descent. If the
>>> claims are true, it could further sour relations between Middle Eastern
>>> and European Jews in Israel.
>>> 
>>> The four graves at Tel Aviv's Givat Shaul cemetery were opened last
>>> Wednesday as part of an official investigation, with a rabbi and family
>>> members present.
>>> 
>>> Wooden signs over the empty graves bore the names Ruthie Babu, Ruthie
>>> Cohen, Reuven Rafaelo and Moshe Mishraki, Israel TV reported Saturday.
>>> All were hospitalized when only a few months old. Their parents never
>>> saw them again, nor did they see a body or a death certificate.
>>> 
>>> ``Now there is no doubt that this was an affair of planned fraud in
>>> which funerals were staged and evidence was falsified,'' said Ora
>>> Shifris, a spokesman for the Yemenite families.
>>> 
>>> Hundreds of children disappeared during the mass immigration of Yemenite
>>> Jews in the early 1950s, when the immigrants were housed in tent camps.
>>> Camp officials and medical staff denied any wrongdoing, saying there was
>>> chaos in the camps, where many babies were sickly and died.
>>> 
>>> Two other commissions have investigated the affair, but many families
>>> dismissed their inconclusive findings.
>>> 
>>> In 1994, radical Yemenite activist Uzi Meshulam and a group of armed
>>> followers barricaded themselves in a house in Tel Aviv for six weeks to
>>> press demands for a new inquiry. One of the followers was killed in a
>>> shootout with police, and Meshulam is serving a 6  1/2-year prison term.
>>> But the confrontation created a furor that led to the current
>>> commission, which has subpoena powers.
>>> 
>>> Israel's 4.7 million Jews are roughly evenly divided between those of
>>> Middle Eastern and European descent, but the latter have always been
>>> dominant economically and socially.
>>
>>
>>Mr. Jafar.
>>1. The number of children exceeded the thousands, not hundreds.
>>2. Most of the low Paige and menial jobs are given to Arab Jews.
>>3. For economic reasons, most of the prostitutes in Israel are underage
>>Yemenites (and now Russian) Jewish little girls.
>>4. Rejecting the blood of the African Jews (the Falasha) is just on of
>>the facet of the fascist Zionist life. The Falasha Jews are prohibited
>>from performing marriages and funeral. Only Aryan Jews are allowed to do
>>that besides some Arab Jews who had to (convert) to Judaism, the Aryan
>>style.



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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:46:19 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>Subject: Der ewige Jude [The Eternal Jew]
>
>The Film of a 2000-Year Rat Migration
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>The Eternal Jew is the first film that not only gives a full picture
>of Jewry, but provides a broad treatment of the life and effects of
>this parasitic race using genuine material taken from real life. It
>also shows why healthy peoples in every age have responded to the Jews
>with disgust and loathing, often enough expressing their feelings
>though deeds.
>
>Just like rats, the Jews 2000 years ago moved from the Middle East, to
>Egypt, at that time a flourishing land. Even then they had all the
>criminal traits they display today, even then they were the enemy of
>hard-working, creative peoples. In large hordes they migrated from
>there to the "Promised Land," flooded the entire Mediterranean region,
>broke into Spain, France and Southern Germany, then followed the
>German colonists as they moved into the
>countries of the East. Along they way they remained eternal parasites,
>haggling and cheating, Poland above all became the enormous reservoir
>from which Jewry sent its agents to every leading nation of Europe and
>the world.
>
>The self-portrait Jewry offered the world was disgusting from the
>beginning. All that is overshadowed by the powerful examples of this
>new and most valuable film, The Eternal Jew. This film with its
>persuasive power must be shown everywhere where anti-Semitism is still
>questioned. No one will will fail to shudder at the sneaking servility
>and dirty bartering of the Jews when they start out, at the perfidy,
>insidiousness and vulgarity of their methods, at the brutality and
>all-devouring hatred they exhibit when they
>reach their goal and control finance.
>
>The most revolting scenes show Jewish slaughtering methods. These
>customs, which cast a particularly vivid spotlight on the so-called
>Jewish religion, are so terrible that it is hard to watch the film as
>the grinning Jewish butchers carry out their work. It is illuminating
>to see how stubbornly Jewry holds to its method of slaughter and with
>which casuistry it defends it against the horror of the civilized
>world. Rarely will people feel more horror than which watching the
>desperate and horrible death struggle of the
>slaughtered animals. Long before the seizure of power, the NSDAP
>fought against Jewish slaughter. National Socialist representatives in
>parliament repeatedly introduced legislation to abolish this form of
>animal torture through a ban on Jewish slaughter. Such proposals were
>always rejected, since the entire Jewish and Jewish-influenced press
>ran long articles against them and the so-called German parties
>refused to support National Socialism in its battle against this evil.
>
>Not only in this regard, but in other areas too we are reminded with a
>shudder of what once was reality in Germany: the power of the Jews in
>the economy, finance, culture, theater, film, publishing, press,
>radio, education and politics. All these Jewish leaders of the Weimar
>era had their home or their origin in the filthy ghettos of the East.
>
>
>One has a deep sense of salvation after seeing this film. We have
>broken their power over us. We are the initiators of the fight against
>world Jewry, which now directs its hate, its brutal greed and
>destructive will toward us. We must win this battle for ourselves, for
>Europe, for the world. This film will be a valuable tool in that
>struggle.



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:57:37 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>>
>>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>>By Sean Maguire
>>>Sept. 14, 1998
>>
>>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>>
>>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>>sensitive site. 
>>
>>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>>groups. 
>>
>>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>>
>>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>>site inevitable. 
>>
>>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>>
>>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>>
>>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>>
>>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>>
>>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>>
>>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>>and nationalists. 
>>
>>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>>forgotten. 
>>
>>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>>be removed. 
>>>
>>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>>
>>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>>
>>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>>the moment.'' 
>>
>>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>>
>>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>>
>>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>>international funding, are on hold. 
>>
>>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>>
>>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>>
>>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>>
>>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>>
>>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>>
>>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>>
>>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>>
>>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>>Jewish community.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>



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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com



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On Fri, 01 May 1998 14:06:39 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>Interesting artcile from Deja News.
>If true, why no legal action??
>
>>From - Tue Sep 23 12:47:40 1997
>>Return-path: 
>
>>From: NSWPP-CSU 
>>Subject: Jewish Mafia Controls Ukrainian Media
>
>======================================================
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>Jewish Mafia Takes Over Ukrainian and E. European Television----------
>
>According to an article in the April 5, 1997 N.Y. Times, "TV Venture
>by Cosmetics Heir Raises Questions," Zionist mogul and former U.S.
>ambassador to Austria Ronald Lauder, has united with Vadim Rabinovich,
>a Ukrainian millionaire who spent nine years in prison for theft and
>has ties to the Jewish mafia in Ukraine, to build a media
>empire--Central European Media
>Enterprises-- in the countries of the former Soviet Union.
>
>The Jewish owned Central European Media controls television stations
>in seven East European countries in the region. Ukrainian TV is
>controlled by its subsidiary, the Studio 11 Group, its local partner
>in Kiev.
>
>Rabinovich is linked to Grigory Loutchansky, a Russian-Jew, whose
>company, Nordex, is believed to be a front for the Russian-Jewish
>mafia.
>
>The Times says, "Rabinovich was jailed from 1982 to 1990 for theft
>from the state. He said in an interview that he had been chief of a
>construction brigade and had sold goods to private customers. He said
>he had committed no real crime and had been persecuted for being
>Jewish.
>
>"...Central European Media sought to expand into Ukraine a year ago.
>At the outset, Fertig (its chief of operations) said, its
>representatives were referred to Rabinovich and his partners by a
>close adviser and  assistant to President Leonid Kuchma of Ukraine,
>who praised the Ukraine group. And when questions arose about the
>legality of the broadcast license  received by the joint venture, the
>same presidential adviser obtained a letter declaring that the license
>had been awarded properly.
>
>"...(C)oncerns about his business activities led the British
>government to bar Loutchansky from entering the country...An
>intelligence summary prepared by a Western government, and
>corroborated by senior U.S. diplomats, said Ostex, one of Rabinovich's
>companies, had been created  as an arm of Nordex, a claim that
>Rabinovich disputed.
>
>"In the interview in his office in a modern building in Kiev,
>Rabinovich said he had worked with Nordex for about a year but had
>broken off the relationship two years ago because of bad publicity
>about Loutchansky. He said his companies, which are engaged in many
>businesses, had only legitimate interests...
>
>"Lauder, whose mother founded Estee Lauder Cosmetics, created Central
>European Media in 1994. He predicted last year that the company would
>have annual revenues of $1 billion within five years, but it has run
>up steady losses to date. The company reported last month that it lost
>$30 million in 1996 compared with losses of $18.7 million in 1995 and
>$20.5  million in 1994.
>
>"When the company sought to enter the Ukraine market a year ago,
>Fertig said, its executives were referred to Rabinovich and his
>partners in Studio 11 by Oleksandra Volkov, an assistant and close
>adviser to Kuchma.
>
>Western diplomats and businessmen said Volkov also owned a piece of 
>Studio 11, but Fertig said he was unaware of that investment.
>
>"Along with the recommendation from the presidential adviser, the
>company executives also were impressed by a photograph in Rabinovich's
>office that showed him with President Clinton and Vice President Al
>Gore, according to a person close to the company.
>
>"The photograph was taken in late 1995 at a Democratic fund-raising
>party in Miami, Rabinovich said. He said he had not donated money to
>the Democrats but had been invited to the event by Bennett LeBow, an
>American businessman whose interests include Liggett Group, the big
>cigarette manufacturer.
>
>"...Last summer Central European Media negotiated a partnership
>agreement with Studio 11 Group that gave the American company a 50
>percent economic interest in the operation, which was broadcasting
>about five hours a day on Ukrainian television.
>
>"Studio 11 received a license last fall to expand its broadcast time
>on Ukraine's commercial channel, UT 2, to nine hours a day, including
>prime time. The license, also sought by other companies, was issued
>despite a moratorium imposed by Parliament.
>
>"...The Ukraine deal is important to Central European Media. In a
>stock offering last fall, which raised $132 million, the company said
>the Ukraine partnership had more than doubled its market reach.
>
>"A cablegram from the embassy to the State Department in Washington in
>September raised questions about Rabinovich's background and said he
>was 'largely considered beyond the reach of the law in Ukraine,'
>according to a copy provided to The New York Times." (End quote).
>
>Once again we see the worldwide Media Monopoly extend its suzerainty
>thanks to their Money Power and the betrayal of the people by the
>Pres. of Ukraine and other Judases.
>
>
>>for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org



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On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:01:41 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>reconsidered by thinking readers.

>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org

>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>>	
>>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>
>>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>>
>>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>Archives:         
>>        
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>>         
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>>
>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>>       
>>         
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government."         
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>>
>>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>>
>>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>Gordon. 
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>were Jews. 
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>did not take kindly to it." 
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>>
>>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>4, 1919) 
>>	
>>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>himself:
>>
>>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>virtually untouched.
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>Communist bosses.
>> 
>>>Regards,
>>>Roger Hughes
>>
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People 
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>>                http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>     Roger's Page  http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>      Keep It White Because You Know It's Right!
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>-88-



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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site. 
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>groups. 
>
>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable. 
>
>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>
>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>
>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists. 
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>forgotten. 
>
>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>be removed. 
>>
>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>
>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>
>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>the moment.'' 
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold. 
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>
>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>
>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>
>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>
>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>Jewish community.
sven 88



On 17 Nov 1998 14:56:45 GMT, gupik@aol.com (Gupik) wrote:

>O naiwny to Ty jestes bezgranicznie. Sluzbowo to sie takich spraw nie zalatwia
>przez umieszczanie postingow.  No ale to inna sprawa. Mnie chodzi o to ze
>obecnosc takich kutasow jak sbjarnasson na tym forum to wspanialy argument do
>pokazywania calemu swiatu polskiego anysemityzmu. Zwroc uwage moj ty 007 ze :
>po pierwsze sbjarnson nie jest ( prawdopodobnie) Polakiem. po drugie, jego
>postingi sa pisane po angielsku. On nie szuka moim zdaniem rozmowcy na tym
>forum. On po prostu chce tu byc jako antysemita "do towarzystwa".
>AMEN, niech Cie BOG i, MILICJA do domu prowadzi jak mawial Piotrus Skrzynecki w
>1981 roku.



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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com



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On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:01:41 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>reconsidered by thinking readers.

>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org

>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>>	
>>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>
>>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>>
>>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>Archives:         
>>        
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>>         
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>>
>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>>       
>>         
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government."         
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>>
>>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>>
>>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>Gordon. 
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>were Jews. 
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>did not take kindly to it." 
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>>
>>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>4, 1919) 
>>	
>>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>himself:
>>
>>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>virtually untouched.
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>Communist bosses.
>> 
>>>Regards,
>>>Roger Hughes
>>
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People 
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>>                http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>     Roger's Page  http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>      Keep It White Because You Know It's Right!
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>-88-



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:30:43 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>What is the final number of wealthy Chinese who returned to Hong Kong
>in 1997?
>
>The 200,000 refers only to the first 6 months of 1997.
>This must have put a major economic drain on the economies of those
>cities such as Toronto, Vancouver and Edmonton, where Chinese used to
>locate.
>
>On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:26:44 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>A major reason for the return of more than 200,000 Canadian Chinese
>>between January and June 1997, as reported by Canadian media, is the
>>extortionate taxes in Canada.
>
>>Last year, the JEW Bronfmans took more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of
>>Canada, WITHOUT PAYING THEIR TAXES!!!
>
>>The same day that the Auditor-general of canada exposed this, the
>>finance minister amended the Income Tax Act, so that the Chinese
>>immigrants would now have to pay INCOME TAXES ON THEIR OVERSEAS
>>ASSETS, not just on the INCOME coming into Canada.
>
>>This is now almost a half page section of the 1996 year Income Tax
>>returns.
>
>>As a result, those Canadian Chinese who have brains, have left Canada,
>>together with their billions, without paying the extortionate canadian
>>Income Taxes.
>
>>At the same time, they have sold their real estate in vancouver,
>>Toronto and Edmonton, even at a loss, just to get out of Canada, and
>>have also closed down many businesses.
>
>>Canada is now experiencing dramatic drops in the value of real estate
>>in most cities, as the Chinese investors and speculators abandon the
>>country.
>
>
>>>In article <19971007201501.QAA07156@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
>>>  clturnomad@aol.com (Clturnomad) wrote:
>
>>>> I am doing research for an article I am writing about Hong Kong, and I am
>>>>  interested in people's response to the following question:
>
>>>> In the last few years, there has been a surge of "returnees" to Hong Kong -
>>>>  people who left the territory to get a foreign passport, and have now
>>>>  returned.  My question is this:  Why do Hong Kong people who have emigrated
>>>>  to, say, Canada or the US, and maybe even spent years living in their new
>>>>  home, feel the desire to return to Hong Kong?  Is there anything about Hong
>>>>  Kong that is really that much better than the US or Canada?
>
>
>On 31 Oct 1998 06:00:34 GMT, Spehro Pefhany 
>wrote:
>
>>In soc.culture.china Patrick Cheong  wrote:
>>> When they migrated to Canada, only the income and asserts within Canada were
>>> taxable.
>>> Then the Canadians amended to law to include all asserts abroad to be
>>> taxable.
>>> The only way to avoid this tax but keeping the Canadian citizenship is to
>>> declare themselves as non-residential Canadians and move everything out of
>>> Canada.
>
>
>
>>Nonsense. Worldwide income has always been taxed for Canadian residents
>>(at least in the last 20 years). Assets abroad are not taxed, only income
>>(which often results from assets) or capital gains (from selling assets).
>>
>>There was a reporting law enacted recently which requires reporting of
>>foreign assets and severely punishes not reporting them. 
>>
>>Some people may think that it is unfair for Canada to tax money made
>>entirely outside the country because the owner is a Canadian resident,
>>others think it to be entirely fair. Anyway, it is the law. The US is even
>>more extreme and taxes its citizens even if they are not resident. 



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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:48:25 +1300, brian.harmer@vuw.ac.nz (Brian
Harmer) wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:08:38 +1300, "Dave Joll" 
>wrote:

>>>>Have the CIA been to see you yet, about your export of
>>>>computer programs to Cuba, in defiance of the Helms
>>>>Burton Act?
> 
>>>Since Canada is not yet a part of the USA, Helms-Burton has no effect
>>>in Canada,
> 
>>In that case you misunderstand the Helms Burton Act.
>>Its main aim is to prevent citizens of and companies
>>based in countries other than the United States from
>>trading with Cuba.
>
>And you apparently don't grasp the concept of national sovereignty.
>Reuters reported on October 28 1996 "EU Foreign Ministers agreed ...
>to make it illegal for Europeans to obey Washington's anti-Cuban
>Helms-Burton Act."
>
>Likewise, Canada introduced legislation making compliance with
>Helms-Burton illegal in that country. Another web site records:
>
>  "Canada and Mexico, in particular,flatly rejected the Helms-Burton
>  law as a means for achieving democracy in Cuba (Economist 9/7/96).
>  Even the Organization of American States, which has a long history
>  of supporting American policy towards Cuba, criticized the increased
>  sanctions on Cuba on June 5, 1996"
>
>International reaction  to this quasi-legal imperialism was such the
>President Clinton suspended Title III of the act in January 1997 and
>has done so every six months since. Litigation is in process with the
>World Trade Organization. 
>
>We in New Zealand don't need to make it illegal ... we are just not
>subject to the authority of US legislation.


Glad to see that tyhe cretin from NZ is but an aberration, probably
caused by defective genes??


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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 04:14:52 GMT,  wrote:

>I can't give you any Polish input, being Ukrainian, 

One must assume that you are functionally illiterate, in both English
and Ukrainian.

Perhaps others will be better able to comment.

On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:

>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.      


>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>>        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>>        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>>        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>>        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>>        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>>        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German "death camps" were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>>        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>>        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>>        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>   
>>>>        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted. 
>>>
>>>>        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum. 
>>>
>>>>        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>>        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.        
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>>        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>>        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>>        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>>        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>>        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>>        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>>        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>>        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>>        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>>        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>>        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>  
>>>>        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well. 
>>>
>>>>        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>>        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring. 
>>>
>>>>        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        About 300,000.
>>>
>>>>        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>>        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>>        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>>        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
>>>
>>>>        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>>        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.        
>>>
>>>>        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>>        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>>        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>>        About two hours.
>>>
>>>>        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>>        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>>        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>>        About 430,600.
>>>
>>>>        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>>        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>>        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>        
>>>>        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>>        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>>        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>>        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>>        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>>        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
>>>
>>>>        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust. 
>>>
>>>>        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>>        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>>        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text. 
>>>
>>>>        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it. 
>>>
>>>>        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>>>>man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine. 
>>>
>>>>        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin's butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay's
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>>        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>       
>>>>        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>>        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>>        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada. 
>>>
>>>>        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>>        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>>        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>>        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>>        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>>        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>>        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>>        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making. 
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg's
>>>>production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>>        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>>        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>>        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>>        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned. 
>>>
>>>>        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany. 
>>>
>>>>        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>>        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people's
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country's original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>>        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>>        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew> could 
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser
sven88



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:56:26 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:04:59 -0500, "Shabati..Zvi Äbuishneineh"
> wrote:
>
>>SJAFAR@newsnet., new wrote:
>>> 
>>> Investigators reportedly have opened several graves of Yemenite Jewish
>>> babies and found them to be empty - a discovery that might support
>>> claims that Yemenite children were taken from their parents for adoption
>>> decades ago.
>>> 
>>> For years, Yemenite activists have claimed hundreds of babies declared
>>> dead were actually given to adoptive parents of European descent. If the
>>> claims are true, it could further sour relations between Middle Eastern
>>> and European Jews in Israel.
>>> 
>>> The four graves at Tel Aviv's Givat Shaul cemetery were opened last
>>> Wednesday as part of an official investigation, with a rabbi and family
>>> members present.
>>> 
>>> Wooden signs over the empty graves bore the names Ruthie Babu, Ruthie
>>> Cohen, Reuven Rafaelo and Moshe Mishraki, Israel TV reported Saturday.
>>> All were hospitalized when only a few months old. Their parents never
>>> saw them again, nor did they see a body or a death certificate.
>>> 
>>> ``Now there is no doubt that this was an affair of planned fraud in
>>> which funerals were staged and evidence was falsified,'' said Ora
>>> Shifris, a spokesman for the Yemenite families.
>>> 
>>> Hundreds of children disappeared during the mass immigration of Yemenite
>>> Jews in the early 1950s, when the immigrants were housed in tent camps.
>>> Camp officials and medical staff denied any wrongdoing, saying there was
>>> chaos in the camps, where many babies were sickly and died.
>>> 
>>> Two other commissions have investigated the affair, but many families
>>> dismissed their inconclusive findings.
>>> 
>>> In 1994, radical Yemenite activist Uzi Meshulam and a group of armed
>>> followers barricaded themselves in a house in Tel Aviv for six weeks to
>>> press demands for a new inquiry. One of the followers was killed in a
>>> shootout with police, and Meshulam is serving a 6  1/2-year prison term.
>>> But the confrontation created a furor that led to the current
>>> commission, which has subpoena powers.
>>> 
>>> Israel's 4.7 million Jews are roughly evenly divided between those of
>>> Middle Eastern and European descent, but the latter have always been
>>> dominant economically and socially.
>>
>>
>>Mr. Jafar.
>>1. The number of children exceeded the thousands, not hundreds.
>>2. Most of the low Paige and menial jobs are given to Arab Jews.
>>3. For economic reasons, most of the prostitutes in Israel are underage
>>Yemenites (and now Russian) Jewish little girls.
>>4. Rejecting the blood of the African Jews (the Falasha) is just on of
>>the facet of the fascist Zionist life. The Falasha Jews are prohibited
>>from performing marriages and funeral. Only Aryan Jews are allowed to do
>>that besides some Arab Jews who had to (convert) to Judaism, the Aryan
>>style.



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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:46:19 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>Subject: Der ewige Jude [The Eternal Jew]
>
>The Film of a 2000-Year Rat Migration
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>The Eternal Jew is the first film that not only gives a full picture
>of Jewry, but provides a broad treatment of the life and effects of
>this parasitic race using genuine material taken from real life. It
>also shows why healthy peoples in every age have responded to the Jews
>with disgust and loathing, often enough expressing their feelings
>though deeds.
>
>Just like rats, the Jews 2000 years ago moved from the Middle East, to
>Egypt, at that time a flourishing land. Even then they had all the
>criminal traits they display today, even then they were the enemy of
>hard-working, creative peoples. In large hordes they migrated from
>there to the "Promised Land," flooded the entire Mediterranean region,
>broke into Spain, France and Southern Germany, then followed the
>German colonists as they moved into the
>countries of the East. Along they way they remained eternal parasites,
>haggling and cheating, Poland above all became the enormous reservoir
>from which Jewry sent its agents to every leading nation of Europe and
>the world.
>
>The self-portrait Jewry offered the world was disgusting from the
>beginning. All that is overshadowed by the powerful examples of this
>new and most valuable film, The Eternal Jew. This film with its
>persuasive power must be shown everywhere where anti-Semitism is still
>questioned. No one will will fail to shudder at the sneaking servility
>and dirty bartering of the Jews when they start out, at the perfidy,
>insidiousness and vulgarity of their methods, at the brutality and
>all-devouring hatred they exhibit when they
>reach their goal and control finance.
>
>The most revolting scenes show Jewish slaughtering methods. These
>customs, which cast a particularly vivid spotlight on the so-called
>Jewish religion, are so terrible that it is hard to watch the film as
>the grinning Jewish butchers carry out their work. It is illuminating
>to see how stubbornly Jewry holds to its method of slaughter and with
>which casuistry it defends it against the horror of the civilized
>world. Rarely will people feel more horror than which watching the
>desperate and horrible death struggle of the
>slaughtered animals. Long before the seizure of power, the NSDAP
>fought against Jewish slaughter. National Socialist representatives in
>parliament repeatedly introduced legislation to abolish this form of
>animal torture through a ban on Jewish slaughter. Such proposals were
>always rejected, since the entire Jewish and Jewish-influenced press
>ran long articles against them and the so-called German parties
>refused to support National Socialism in its battle against this evil.
>
>Not only in this regard, but in other areas too we are reminded with a
>shudder of what once was reality in Germany: the power of the Jews in
>the economy, finance, culture, theater, film, publishing, press,
>radio, education and politics. All these Jewish leaders of the Weimar
>era had their home or their origin in the filthy ghettos of the East.
>
>
>One has a deep sense of salvation after seeing this film. We have
>broken their power over us. We are the initiators of the fight against
>world Jewry, which now directs its hate, its brutal greed and
>destructive will toward us. We must win this battle for ourselves, for
>Europe, for the world. This film will be a valuable tool in that
>struggle.



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:57:37 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>>
>>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>>By Sean Maguire
>>>Sept. 14, 1998
>>
>>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>>
>>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>>sensitive site. 
>>
>>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>>groups. 
>>
>>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>>
>>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>>site inevitable. 
>>
>>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>>
>>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>>
>>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>>
>>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>>
>>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>>
>>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>>and nationalists. 
>>
>>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>>forgotten. 
>>
>>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>>be removed. 
>>>
>>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>>
>>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>>
>>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>>the moment.'' 
>>
>>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>>
>>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>>
>>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>>international funding, are on hold. 
>>
>>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>>
>>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>>
>>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>>
>>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>>
>>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>>
>>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>>
>>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>>
>>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>>Jewish community.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>



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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com



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On Fri, 01 May 1998 14:06:39 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>Interesting artcile from Deja News.
>If true, why no legal action??
>
>>From - Tue Sep 23 12:47:40 1997
>>Return-path: 
>
>>From: NSWPP-CSU 
>>Subject: Jewish Mafia Controls Ukrainian Media
>
>======================================================
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>
>Jewish Mafia Takes Over Ukrainian and E. European Television----------
>
>According to an article in the April 5, 1997 N.Y. Times, "TV Venture
>by Cosmetics Heir Raises Questions," Zionist mogul and former U.S.
>ambassador to Austria Ronald Lauder, has united with Vadim Rabinovich,
>a Ukrainian millionaire who spent nine years in prison for theft and
>has ties to the Jewish mafia in Ukraine, to build a media
>empire--Central European Media
>Enterprises-- in the countries of the former Soviet Union.
>
>The Jewish owned Central European Media controls television stations
>in seven East European countries in the region. Ukrainian TV is
>controlled by its subsidiary, the Studio 11 Group, its local partner
>in Kiev.
>
>Rabinovich is linked to Grigory Loutchansky, a Russian-Jew, whose
>company, Nordex, is believed to be a front for the Russian-Jewish
>mafia.
>
>The Times says, "Rabinovich was jailed from 1982 to 1990 for theft
>from the state. He said in an interview that he had been chief of a
>construction brigade and had sold goods to private customers. He said
>he had committed no real crime and had been persecuted for being
>Jewish.
>
>"...Central European Media sought to expand into Ukraine a year ago.
>At the outset, Fertig (its chief of operations) said, its
>representatives were referred to Rabinovich and his partners by a
>close adviser and  assistant to President Leonid Kuchma of Ukraine,
>who praised the Ukraine group. And when questions arose about the
>legality of the broadcast license  received by the joint venture, the
>same presidential adviser obtained a letter declaring that the license
>had been awarded properly.
>
>"...(C)oncerns about his business activities led the British
>government to bar Loutchansky from entering the country...An
>intelligence summary prepared by a Western government, and
>corroborated by senior U.S. diplomats, said Ostex, one of Rabinovich's
>companies, had been created  as an arm of Nordex, a claim that
>Rabinovich disputed.
>
>"In the interview in his office in a modern building in Kiev,
>Rabinovich said he had worked with Nordex for about a year but had
>broken off the relationship two years ago because of bad publicity
>about Loutchansky. He said his companies, which are engaged in many
>businesses, had only legitimate interests...
>
>"Lauder, whose mother founded Estee Lauder Cosmetics, created Central
>European Media in 1994. He predicted last year that the company would
>have annual revenues of $1 billion within five years, but it has run
>up steady losses to date. The company reported last month that it lost
>$30 million in 1996 compared with losses of $18.7 million in 1995 and
>$20.5  million in 1994.
>
>"When the company sought to enter the Ukraine market a year ago,
>Fertig said, its executives were referred to Rabinovich and his
>partners in Studio 11 by Oleksandra Volkov, an assistant and close
>adviser to Kuchma.
>
>Western diplomats and businessmen said Volkov also owned a piece of 
>Studio 11, but Fertig said he was unaware of that investment.
>
>"Along with the recommendation from the presidential adviser, the
>company executives also were impressed by a photograph in Rabinovich's
>office that showed him with President Clinton and Vice President Al
>Gore, according to a person close to the company.
>
>"The photograph was taken in late 1995 at a Democratic fund-raising
>party in Miami, Rabinovich said. He said he had not donated money to
>the Democrats but had been invited to the event by Bennett LeBow, an
>American businessman whose interests include Liggett Group, the big
>cigarette manufacturer.
>
>"...Last summer Central European Media negotiated a partnership
>agreement with Studio 11 Group that gave the American company a 50
>percent economic interest in the operation, which was broadcasting
>about five hours a day on Ukrainian television.
>
>"Studio 11 received a license last fall to expand its broadcast time
>on Ukraine's commercial channel, UT 2, to nine hours a day, including
>prime time. The license, also sought by other companies, was issued
>despite a moratorium imposed by Parliament.
>
>"...The Ukraine deal is important to Central European Media. In a
>stock offering last fall, which raised $132 million, the company said
>the Ukraine partnership had more than doubled its market reach.
>
>"A cablegram from the embassy to the State Department in Washington in
>September raised questions about Rabinovich's background and said he
>was 'largely considered beyond the reach of the law in Ukraine,'
>according to a copy provided to The New York Times." (End quote).
>
>Once again we see the worldwide Media Monopoly extend its suzerainty
>thanks to their Money Power and the betrayal of the people by the
>Pres. of Ukraine and other Judases.
>
>
>>for further info contact http://www.nswpp.org



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On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:01:41 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>reconsidered by thinking readers.

>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org

>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>
>>
>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>>	
>>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>
>>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>>
>>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>Archives:         
>>        
>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>>         
>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>>
>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>>       
>>         
>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>Government."         
>>
>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>>
>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>>
>>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>>
>>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>>
>>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>Gordon. 
>>
>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>were Jews. 
>>
>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>did not take kindly to it." 
>>
>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>
>>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>>
>>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>4, 1919) 
>>	
>>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>>
>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>himself:
>>
>>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>
>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>virtually untouched.
>>
>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>>
>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>Communist bosses.
>> 
>>>Regards,
>>>Roger Hughes
>>
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People 
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>>                http://www.natvan.com
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>     Roger's Page  http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>      Keep It White Because You Know It's Right!
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>-88-



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:10:57 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:01:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>
>>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>>
>>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>>
>>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>>involved.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>>
>>>sperati wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>> 
>>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>> 
>>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> North Shore News
>>>> February 2, 1997
>>>> 
>>>> Insights from abroad
>>>> Doug Collins
>>>> 
>>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>>> 
>>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>>> 
>>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>>> 
>>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>> 
>>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>>> 
>>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> alive.
>>>> 
>>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>>> 
>>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>> 
>>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> documents in the process.
>>>> 
>>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>>> 
>>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>>> 
>>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>> 
>>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>> 
>>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> was a Jew.
>>>> 
>>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>>> 
>>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>> 
>>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>> 
>>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>> 
>>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>>> 
>>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>> 
>>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> wonder why?
>>>> 
>>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:24:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:00:51 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:

>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>>
>>>They haven't.
>>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>
>>>>David Maddison
>>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>>Harold.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, Mr_I@TIO>not.awww....
>>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>>woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>> 
>>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>>> peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>>
>>
>>>Shouldn't that be "Oingo Boingo"?
>>
>>>Doesn't Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of 
>>>"Be careful who you hate, because you'll end up being just like them".
>>
>>>They're behaving like Nazi's in Palestine (let's call it by it's real name
>>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn't one of the
>>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>>the Past AND the Future?...).
>>
>>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli's are secular and
>>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!.  WHO DON'T WORK.  WHO DON'T HAVE TO DO
>>>MILITARY SERVICE.  WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>>peace.
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 04:42:35 GMT, cartman@southpark.com (Eric Cartman)
>>wrote:
>>>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:28:39 GMT, management.dolitle@omcs.com.au
>>>(Scott Steel) wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:20:36 GMT, zsero@bigfoot.com (Zev Sero) wrote:
>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James) wrote:
>>
>>>>>The publication of a portion of the membership list of One Nation is
>>>>>in no way comparable to your Nazi heroes' making up of lists of Jews
>>>>>to murder.  Neither Mark Leibler nor anyone else involved in AIR has
>>>>>given the slightest indication that they might be prone to violence
>>>>>against One Nation members.
>>
>>>>Im sure they havent.
>>>>But they printed the List with the expectation of intimidating One
>>>>Nation members.This is not acceptable in a country with a right to
>>>>free political association.
>>
>>>>>  It's clear that the purpose of publishing
>>>>>the list was to shame these people who have lent a hand to that unworthy
>>>>>cause. 
>>
>>>>To "shame" these people?
>>>>Who  is Leibler to define whom needs "shaming"?
>>>>Since when did that little imp carry the collective conscience of
>>>>Australia?
>>
>>>Seems to be a preoccupation of the people of Jehovah.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:45:33 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:40:06 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>>wrote:

>>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>>Christian natives.
>>>
>>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>>humanity in Palestine.
>>>
>>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>>
>>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>>
>>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>>
>>>
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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:45:03 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:40:41 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:24:48 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>
>>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>>
>>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>>
>>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>>
>>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>>murder of Christ?
>>>
>>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>>want to generate more?
>>>
>>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>>
>>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>>
>>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>>
>>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>>
>>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>>where your mouth is...
>>>
>>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>>
>>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>>
>>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>>the year 2000!!!



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:32:24 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:45:25 -0600, John Walker
> wrote:
>
>>(See reply below)
>>
>>sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>>> >non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>>> >
>>> >A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>>> >ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews' physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>>> >repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>>> >naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>>> >why Jews are disliked.
>>> >
>>> >In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>>> >and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>>> >distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>>> >and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>>> >Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>>> >
>>> >Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>>> >with them.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>>> >to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>>> >aid.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>>> >more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>>> >(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>>> >of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>>> >the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>>> >world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>>> >to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>>> >all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>>> >congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>>> >billion/year of US taxpayers' money continues to be sent to Israel as
>>> >foreign aid.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>>> >more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>>> >communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>>> >strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews stole the Palestinians' homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>>> >Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>>> >the Jews.
>>> >
>>> >In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the "anti-semitism" they are
>>> >always complaining about.
>>
>>==== Reply: ===========
>>Jewish Leadership
>>------------------
>>There is an old saying in the world of salesmanship: "Once you have made the
>>sale, shut up!."
>>This is what I see to be a major reason for the growing "anti-Semitic"
>>provocation mentioned above.
>>The result  is a backlash against a tired old formula which is starting to
>>lose it's effectiveness. The Jewish problem is that they can't "shut up".
>>
>>Everywhere on the Internet we witness Jews promoting Jewish leadership.
>>Anyone with the
>>slightest argument against them is accused by Jews of hate. Those refusing to
>>accept Jewish self promotion and  Jewish leadership  are placed in the unfair
>>position of being  branded as  hate mongers. The real hate mongers, in this
>>case, is the Jews.
>>Intellectual honesty in these debates  is seldom condoned. Rather than an
>>offering of counter facts,
>>most often anti Jewish rebuttals are substituted with mere insults which
>>almost always  include accusations of unfounded hatred against the Jews.
>>
>>While Christians, Muslims, and others are busy converting people to their
>>religion, Jews are busy
>>promoting people to their Jewish influence. Gaining success in this activity
>>they are able to form a thought control machine wherein Jewish interests are
>>to be paramount.  The  very powerful Jewish lobby in the United States of
>>America is an example of that influence and leadership  which Jews now enjoy
>>- and it is supported for through the USA gifting of around 3 billion dollars
>>per year to Israel. Much of that money comes back to haunt us.
>>
>>Currently (981025), Jewish influence is testing their level of control by way
>>of trying to get the Jewish American traitor and super spy, J. Pollard,
>>released from prison even though Pollard remains a continuing threat to USA
>>security.. But Israel itself  has betrayed her friendship with the United
>>States by recruiting Pollard to spy for the Jewish state.  Through such acts,
>>Israel was able to sell top secret technical information to countries which
>>act against our security interests.  All of this amounts to even more reason
>>why so much "anti-Semitism" is generated by the Jews themselves.
>>
>>A real friend would not do what Israel has been doing to the United States.
>>Can any reasonable
>>USA patriot citizen offer continued loyalty to that country - Israel - which
>>has betrayed the US more than all others combined?
>>
>>The common pro-Jewish argument is that Jews have suffered throughout the ages
>>and that they must
>>gain world leadership as a matter of security.  The argument continues to be
>>strained as we observe
>>that, more and more, according to the Jews, only Jewish suffering is to have
>>any real meaning.  Witness the Jewish Holocaust museums where none but the
>>Jewish victims  are remembered for the carnage's of W.W.II. The over one
>>hundred million victims of socialist states, since the communist revolution,
>>don't even make it to most history books.
>>
>>I believe I have been objective and honest  in this reply. My message was
>>more by way of observation than it was of accusation.  Still, I can expect
>>extreme distortions from Jews all over,  Jews who I have not met, who will
>>accuse me of hating them.  But, they want me to hate them because that
>>alleged hate is what motivates Jews more than anything else to fight, ever
>>more, for their selfish influence in the affairs of our daily lives.
>>
>>Jews are the only ones who will tell you that you hate them -
>>and if  you disagree, they will argue with you until you do.
>>
>>== jw =====



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:32:24 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:45:25 -0600, John Walker
> wrote:
>
>>(See reply below)
>>
>>sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>>> >non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>>> >
>>> >A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>>> >ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews' physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>>> >repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>>> >naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>>> >why Jews are disliked.
>>> >
>>> >In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>>> >and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>>> >distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>>> >and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>>> >Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>>> >
>>> >Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>>> >with them.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>>> >to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>>> >aid.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>>> >more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>>> >(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>>> >of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>>> >the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>>> >world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>>> >to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>>> >all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>>> >congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>>> >billion/year of US taxpayers' money continues to be sent to Israel as
>>> >foreign aid.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>>> >more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>>> >communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>>> >strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews stole the Palestinians' homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>>> >Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>>> >the Jews.
>>> >
>>> >In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the "anti-semitism" they are
>>> >always complaining about.
>>
>>==== Reply: ===========
>>Jewish Leadership
>>------------------
>>There is an old saying in the world of salesmanship: "Once you have made the
>>sale, shut up!."
>>This is what I see to be a major reason for the growing "anti-Semitic"
>>provocation mentioned above.
>>The result  is a backlash against a tired old formula which is starting to
>>lose it's effectiveness. The Jewish problem is that they can't "shut up".
>>
>>Everywhere on the Internet we witness Jews promoting Jewish leadership.
>>Anyone with the
>>slightest argument against them is accused by Jews of hate. Those refusing to
>>accept Jewish self promotion and  Jewish leadership  are placed in the unfair
>>position of being  branded as  hate mongers. The real hate mongers, in this
>>case, is the Jews.
>>Intellectual honesty in these debates  is seldom condoned. Rather than an
>>offering of counter facts,
>>most often anti Jewish rebuttals are substituted with mere insults which
>>almost always  include accusations of unfounded hatred against the Jews.
>>
>>While Christians, Muslims, and others are busy converting people to their
>>religion, Jews are busy
>>promoting people to their Jewish influence. Gaining success in this activity
>>they are able to form a thought control machine wherein Jewish interests are
>>to be paramount.  The  very powerful Jewish lobby in the United States of
>>America is an example of that influence and leadership  which Jews now enjoy
>>- and it is supported for through the USA gifting of around 3 billion dollars
>>per year to Israel. Much of that money comes back to haunt us.
>>
>>Currently (981025), Jewish influence is testing their level of control by way
>>of trying to get the Jewish American traitor and super spy, J. Pollard,
>>released from prison even though Pollard remains a continuing threat to USA
>>security.. But Israel itself  has betrayed her friendship with the United
>>States by recruiting Pollard to spy for the Jewish state.  Through such acts,
>>Israel was able to sell top secret technical information to countries which
>>act against our security interests.  All of this amounts to even more reason
>>why so much "anti-Semitism" is generated by the Jews themselves.
>>
>>A real friend would not do what Israel has been doing to the United States.
>>Can any reasonable
>>USA patriot citizen offer continued loyalty to that country - Israel - which
>>has betrayed the US more than all others combined?
>>
>>The common pro-Jewish argument is that Jews have suffered throughout the ages
>>and that they must
>>gain world leadership as a matter of security.  The argument continues to be
>>strained as we observe
>>that, more and more, according to the Jews, only Jewish suffering is to have
>>any real meaning.  Witness the Jewish Holocaust museums where none but the
>>Jewish victims  are remembered for the carnage's of W.W.II. The over one
>>hundred million victims of socialist states, since the communist revolution,
>>don't even make it to most history books.
>>
>>I believe I have been objective and honest  in this reply. My message was
>>more by way of observation than it was of accusation.  Still, I can expect
>>extreme distortions from Jews all over,  Jews who I have not met, who will
>>accuse me of hating them.  But, they want me to hate them because that
>>alleged hate is what motivates Jews more than anything else to fight, ever
>>more, for their selfish influence in the affairs of our daily lives.
>>
>>Jews are the only ones who will tell you that you hate them -
>>and if  you disagree, they will argue with you until you do.
>>
>>== jw =====



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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:55:08 -0600, Ed Kadach 
wrote:

>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hitler's forces as high ranking officers.
>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>>
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.



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On Wed, 01 Jul 1998 14:11:47 -0500, Dorian Blanc 
wrote:

>
>
>Hansjoerg Walther wrote:
>
>> Hello Gord,
>>
>> Gord McFee  wrote in article
>> <359921df.9388538@news3.ibm.net>...
>> > In <01bd9848$eafa9580$c5421ecc@mycomputer>, on 15 Jun 1998 10:39:47 GMT,
>> > "Hansjoerg Walther"  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hello Mohammed,
>> > >
>> > > Mohammed Von Goldstein  wrote in article
>> > > <3584A14A.91958308@hotmail.com>...
>> > > >
>> > > > Joel Rosenberg wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > This is news?
>> > > >
>> > > > Since they are non-Jews who died at the hands of Jewish Commissars,
>> who
>> > > > cares. Right, Rosenberg?
>> > >
>> > > Boy, and I thought Stalin was from Georgia.
>> >
>> > Gee, I thought he was from South Carolina.
>>
>> True, he had this Southern accent. But to make this sure: he was not a
>> Reyednick (Redneck).
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Hansjoerg Walther.
>
>
>I saw this Ukranian atrocity by the Jews on Jew Watch at
>http://www.jewwatch.com along with tons of other Jewish atrocities, espionage,
>and ZOG activities, all of which seemed rather thoroughly documented. The Jews
>aren't going to like this site.



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On Sat, 02 May 1998 17:33:40 +0100, John S Moore
 wrote:

>If you mean to persuade us that Hitler’s racial policy was a justified response to the horrors of Jewish
>bolshevism, why do you spoil your case by publishing childish genocidal rant on your site?
>http://207.105.95.101/texts/cng/nordicslut.html
>
>Doc Tavish wrote:
>
>> http://weber.u.washington.edu/~newstdnt/fsem/win97fsem/fsem_8.html
>> University of Washington
>>
>> Crimes Without Punishment: The Communist Holocaust
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Dr. Nikolai Popov -- Comparative Literature
>> GEN ST 197 H (SLN: 3690) M 2:30-3:20 THO 231
>>
>> From 1917 on, the Soviet regime exterminated tens of millions of
>> people. How can the numbing dimensions of that Holocaust be
>> represented? This seminar will read testimonies and historical
>> studies, fiction and poetry, grappling with history's longest re ign
>> of terror and its consequences today. With its broad humanistic appeal
>> and through the topic of representation, this seminar will familiarize
>> students with the concerns and methods of a range of disciplines, from
>> literary studies and history to political science and international
>> studies. Text(s): none
>>
>>         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/ad2kulak.html
>>
>> Hanging Order
>>
>> 11-8-18
>>
>> Send to Penza To Comrades Kuraev, Bosh, Minkin and other Penza
>> communists
>>
>> Comrades! The revolt by the five kulak volost's must be suppressed
>> without mercy. The interest of the entire revolution demands this,
>> because we have now before us our final decisive battle "with the
>> kulaks." We need to set an example.
>>
>> 1.You need to hang (hang without fail, so that the public sees) at
>> least 100 notorious kulaks, the rich, and the bloodsuckers. 2.Publish
>> their names. 3.Take away all of their grain. 4.Execute the hostages -
>> in accordance with yesterday's telegram.
>>
>> This needs to be accomplished in such a way, that people for hundreds
>> of miles around will see, tremble, know and scream out: let's choke
>> and strangle those blood-sucking kulaks.
>>
>> Telegraph us acknowledging receipt and execution of this.
>>
>> Yours, Lenin
>>
>> P.S. Use your toughest people for this.
>>
>> ______________________
>>
>> TRANSLATOR'S COMMENTS: Lenin uses the derogative term kulach'e in
>> reference to the class of prosperous peasants. A volost' was a
>> territorial/administrative unit consisting of a few villages and
>> surrounding land.
>>
>> [not numbered]
>>
>>               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> This Library of Congress Soviet Archives exhibition is important for
>> what it represents, what it contains, and what it suggests.
>>
>> MAIN PAGE
>>
>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>> Here is a link within Sunsite:
>>
>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>
>> You will see as an opener the following:
>>
>> "The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>> April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>> Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>> the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>> meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>> military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>> contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>> States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>> support for the Soviet war effort.
>>
>> The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>> director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>> Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>> newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>> poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>> movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>> [see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>> General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>> Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>> non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>
>> A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>> became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>> Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>> pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>> telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>> anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>
>>                 -------------------------------------------
>>
>> The GULAG
>>
>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/gulag.html
>>
>> The Soviet system of forced labor camps was first established in 1919
>> under the Cheka, but it was not until the early 1930s that the camp
>> population reached significant numbers. By 1934 the GULAG, or Main
>> Directorate for Corrective Labor Camps, then under the Cheka's
>> successor organization the NKVD, had several million inmates.
>> Prisoners included murderers, thieves, and other common
>> criminals--along with political and religious dissenters. The GULAG,
>> whose camps were located mainly in remote regions of Siberia and the
>> Far North, made significant contributions to the Soviet economy in the
>> period of Joseph Stalin. GULAG prisoners constructed the White
>> Sea-Baltic Canal, the Moscow-Volga Canal, the Baikal-Amur main
>> railroad line, numerous hydroelectric stations, and strategic roads
>> and industrial enterprises in remote regions. GULAG manpower was also
>> used for much of the country's lumbering and for the mining of coal,
>> copper, and gold.
>>
>> Stalin constantly increased the number of projects assigned to the
>> NKVD, which led to an increasing reliance on its labor. The GULAG also
>> served as a source of workers for economic projects independent of the
>> NKVD, which contracted its prisoners out to various economic
>> enterprises.
>>
>> Conditions in the camps were extremely harsh. Prisoners received
>> inadequate food rations and insufficient clothing, which made it
>> difficult to endure the severe weatherand the long working hours;
>> sometimes the inmates were physically abused by camp guards. As a
>> result, the death rate from exhaustion and disease in the camps was
>> high. After Stalin died in 1953, the GULAG population was reduced
>> significantly, and conditions for inmates somewhat improved. Forced
>> labor camps continued to exist, although on a small scale, into the
>> Gorbachev period, and the government even opened some camps to
>> scrutiny by journalists and human rights activists. With the advance
>> of democratization, political prisoners and prisoners of conscience
>> all but disappeared from the camps.
>>
>> > all the way up to and including the Gorbachev period!>
>>
>> The conditions of the Gulags:
>>
>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/d2presid.html
>>
>> To the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the All-Union
>> Communist Party (Bolshevik)
>>
>> We appeal to you, asking you to pay a minimum of attention to our
>> request.
>>
>> We are prisoners who are returning from the Solovetsky concentration
>> camp because of our poor health. We went there full of energy and good
>> health, and now we are returning as invalids, broken and crippled
>> emotionally and physically. We are asking you to draw your attention
>> to the arbitrary use of power and the violence that reign at the
>> Solovetsky concentration camp in Kemi and in all sections of the
>> concentration camp. It is difficult for a human being even to imagine
>> such terror, tyranny, violence, and lawlessness. When we went there,
>> we could not conceive of such a horror, and now we, crippled
>> ourselves, together with several thousands who are still there, appeal
>> to the ruling center of the Soviet state to curb the terror that
>> reigns there. As though it weren't enough that the Unified State
>> Political Directorate [OGPU] without oversight and due process sends
>> workers and peasants there who are by and large innocent (we are not
>> talking about criminals who deserve to be punished), the former
>> tsarist penal servitude system in comparison to Solovky had 99% more
>> humanity, fairness, and legality. [...]
>>
>> People die like flies, i.e., they die a slow and painful death; we
>> repeat that all this torment and suffering is placed only on the
>> shoulders of the proletariat without money, i.e., on workers who, we
>> repeat, were unfortunate to find themselves in the period of hunger
>> and destruction accompanying the events of the October Revolution, and
>> who committed crimes only to save themselves and their families from
>> death by starvation; they have already borne the punishment for these
>> crimes, and the vast majority of them subsequently chose the path of
>> honest labor. Now because of their past, for whose crime they have
>> already paid, they are fired from their jobs. Yet, the main thing is
>> that the entire weight of this scandalous abuse of power, brute
>> violence, and lawlessness that reign at Solovky and other sections of
>> the OGPU concentration camp is placed on the shoulders of workers and
>> peasants; others, such as counterrevolutionaries, profiteers and so
>> on, have full wallets and have set themselves up and live in clover in
>> the Soviet State, while next to them, in the literal meaning of the
>> word, the penniless proletariat dies from hunger, cold, and back-
>> breaking 14-16 hour days under the tyranny and lawlessness of inmates
>> who are the agents and collaborators of the State Political
>> Directorate [GPU].
>>
>> If you complain or write anything ("Heaven forbid"), they will frame
>> you for an attempted escape or for something else, and they will shoot
>> you like a dog. They line us up naked and barefoot at 22 degrees below
>> zero and keep us outside for up to an hour. It is difficult to
>> describe all the chaos and terror that is going on in Kemi, Solovky,
>> and the other sections of the concentrations camp. All annual
>> inspections uncover a lot of abuses. But what they discover in
>> comparison to what actually exists is only a part of the horror and
>> abuse of power, which the inspection accidently uncovers. (One example
>> is the following fact, one of a thousand, which is registered in GPU
>> and for which the guilty have been punished: THEY FORCED THE INMATES
>> TO EAT THEIR OWN FECES. "Comrades," if we dare to use this phrase,
>> verify that this is a fact from reality, about which, we repeat, OGPU
>> has the official evidence, and judge for yourself the full extent of
>> effrontery and humiliation in the supervision by those who want to
>> make a career for themselves. [...]
>>
>> We are sure and we hope that in the All-Union Communist Party there
>> are people, as we have been told, who are humane and sympathetic; it
>> is possible, that you might think that it is our imagination, but we
>> swear to you all, by everything that is sacred to us, that this is
>> only one small part of the nightmarish truth, because it makes no
>> sense to make this up. We repeat, and will repeat 100 times, that yes,
>> indeed there are some guilty people, but the majority suffer
>> innocently, as is described above. The word law, according to the law
>> of the GPU concentration camps, does not exist; what does exist is
>> only the autocratic power of petty tyrants, i.e., collaborators,
>> serving time, who have power over life and death. Everything described
>> above is the truth and we, ourselves, who are close to the grave after
>> 3 years in Solovky and Kemi and other sections, are asking you to
>> improve the pathetic, tortured existence of those who are there who
>> languish under the yoke of the OGPU's tyranny, violence, and complete
>> lawlessness....
>>
>> To this we subscribe: G. Zheleznov, Vinogradov, F. Belinskii.
>>
>> Dec. 14, 1926
>>
>> True copy
>>
>> ______________________
>>
>> TRANSLATOR'S COMMENTS: The letter is written in very poor Russian. For
>> the sake of clarity, the translator corrected the grammar and
>> substituted a few words.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> More on Jewish Antifacist Committee:
>>
>> http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/m2antfac.html
>>
>> JEWISH ANTIFASCIST COMMITTEE IN THE USSR
>>
>> Moscow, ulitsa Kropotkina, 10, Telephone: G-6-71-00, G-6-47-07
>>
>> [letterhead also in Russian and Yiddish]
>>                                                 ^^^^^
>>
>> 21 June 1946
>>
>> TO COMRADE M. A. SUSLOV, DIRECTOR OF THE SECTION FOR FOREIGN POLICY OF
>> THE CENTRAL COMMITTEE OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY
>>
>> Pursuant to the inquiry of Comrade Shumeiko, we are providing some
>> information about the Jewish Antifascist Committee in the USSR and its
>> activity.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> The Jewish Antifascist Committee in the USSR was formed soon after the
>> first antifascist radio broadcast political rally of representatives
>> of the Jewish people, which was held in Moscow in August 1941.
>>
>> The Committee consists of 70 members (a list of Committee members is
>> attached), and its executive committee has 19 members (a list of
>> executive committee members is attached).
>>
>> The working staff of the Committee consists of:
>>
>> 1.Secretary of the Committee, whose duties (following the death of
>> Comrade Shakhno Epshtein) are carried out by the writer I. Fefer,
>> member of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) [VKP(b)] since
>> 1919. 2.Deputy Secretary of the Committee, Comrade S.M. Shpigel'glias,
>> VKP(b) member since 1919 and formerly a party worker. 3.Senior
>> editors: N. IA. Levin, VKP(b) member since 1944 and veteran of World
>> War II; L. A. Goldberg, not a party member, former director of the
>> publishing house Der Emes; editor S.O. Berman, VKP(b) member since
>> 1940, veteran of World War II; and three translators and several
>> technical workers.
>>
>> In the course of the last two years, representatives of a series of
>> foreign Jewish antifascist organizations have visited the Committee:
>> Deputy Chairman of the Jewish Antifascist Committee of Bulgaria, Mr.
>> Zhak Vradzhali; one of the leaders of the Union of Jews of
>> Czechoslovakia, Mr. Rozenberg; representatives of Jewish organizations
>> of France, Poland, et al.
>>
>> Recently Mr. Ben Zion Goldberg (Waife), the son-in-law of Sholem
>> Aleichem, visited the Soviet Union. He is a prominent public figure in
>> the United States, a member of the executive committee of the
>> Soviet-American Friendship Society (headed by Lamont), chairman of the
>> Committee of Jewish Scientists, Writers, and Artists of the United
>> States (Albert Einstein is president of the Committee), vice-president
>> of Ambidjan, the All-American Society for Aid to Birobidzhan
>> (president of Ambidzhan-- Steffenson). Mr. Goldberg is also a major
>> American journalist, a contributor to the newspapers Toronto Star,
>> Saint Louis Dispatch, New York Post, and Today, and to the magazine
>> New Republic. Mr. Goldberg stayed in the Soviet Union from January 11
>> to June 8, excluding one month when he traveled to Finland, Sweden,
>> and Denmark.
>>
>> During his stay in the Soviet Union, Mr. Goldberg was received in
>> Moscow by M. I. Kalinin and S. A. Lozovskii; he attended all meetings
>> of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union; and he had a series of
>> meetings with Soviet writers (including a banquet at the Union of
>> Writers), with representatives of the Soviet Jewish community (at the
>> Jewish Antifascist Committee in the USSR headquarters), with leaders
>> of the State Jewish Theater, with the chief rabbi of the Moscow Jewish
>> congregation, Shliffer, and with leaders of the Red Cross, among
>> others.
>>
>> Mr. Goldberg visited Riga, Tallin, Leningrad, Minsk, Vilnius, Kaunas,
>> Kiev, Odessa, Lvov, Uzhgorod, Mukachevo, Brody, and Stalingrad. He was
>> received by the leading workers and writers in the capitals of the
>> union republics.
>>
>> During his stay in the Soviet Union, Mr. Goldberg dispatched via the
>> Soviet Information Bureau 33 articles to the American, Canadian,
>> English, Palestinian, Polish, and Yiddish press. The articles were
>> extremely friendly toward the Soviet Union.
>>
>> Before his departure, Mr. Goldberg began to write a book in English
>> entitled England, the Opponent of Peace, and a book in Yiddish
>> entitled Jewish Culture in the Soviet Union.
>>
>> Recently the Committee has received a series of requests from
>> prominent Jewish public figures from several countries seeking
>> assistance in visiting the Soviet Union. Such requests were received
>> from: N. Goldman, the chairman of the executive committee of the World
>> Jewish Congress; Dr. Stephen Wise, chairman of the American Jewish
>> Congress; Louis Levine, chairman of the Jewish Union for Soviet Aid
>> under Russian War Relief; Mr. Raiskii, the editor-in-chief of the
>> newspaper Presse Nouvelle in Paris; et al.
>>
>> The Jewish Antifascist Committee in the USSR has sent during its
>> entire existence one delegation, composed of Comrades Mikhoels and
>> Fefer, to the United States, England, Canada, and Mexico. This
>> delegations's trip report has been published in the book The Jewish
>> People against Fascism (attached; see pp. 91- 129).
>>
>> [signed]
>>
>> Chairman of the Jewish Anfifascist Committee in the USSR: S. Mikhoels
>>
>> Member of the Executive Committee of the Jewish Antifascist Committee
>> in the USSR: I. Fefer
>>
>> _____________________
>>
>> TRANSLATOR'S COMMENTS:
>>
>> [Stamps at upper right:] Removed from the register; to the dossier of
>> [blank] sector; date: 9 Jan. 1947.
>>
>> [Secretariat OMI], Central Committee of the Communist Party No. 2074 1
>> July 1946
>>
>> [Handwritten marginalia at left margin of p. 1:] To the archive
>> [illegible notations and signature] The book stays. [signed] G.
>> Shumeiko 25/1948
>>
>> ...................................................................................................
>>
>> All material above is from a Library of Congress Web Site as stated on
>> its main page: Soviet Archives Exhibit
>> Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit.
>>
>> ....................................................................................................
>>
>> More on RED TERROR
>>
>> THE RED TERROR [Section of Article]
>>
>> http://www.hrc.wmin.ac.uk/guest/radical/ES-BOLSH.HTM#4
>>
>> The Red Terror was partly a reaction to the greater horrors of the
>> anti-Bolshevik terror in which 23,000 Reds were killed in Finland and
>> 100,000 Jews were murdered in the Ukraine. Nevertheless Lenin
>> repeatedly advocated terror even before the attempt on his life in
>> September 1918. For example during one anti-Bolshevik revolt he told
>> the authorities to organise "mass terror, shoot and deport the
>> hundreds of prostitutes who are making drunkards of the soldiers."
>>
>> Such attitudes enabled the Cheka to acquire widespread powers with
>> virtually no external controls. By the end of the war its head,
>> Dzerzhinsky, was able to say that "the prisons are packed chiefly with
>> workers and peasants instead of the bourgeoisie", and one of his chief
>> lieutenants, Latsis, wrote that: "there is no sphere of life exempt
>> from Cheka coverage." Lenin himself said that "during the war -
>> anybody who placed his own interest above the common interests ... was
>> shot.... we could not emerge from the old society without resorting to
>> compulsion as far as the backward section of the proletariat was
>> concerned."
>>
>> Estimates of the numbers executed include 50,000 and 140,000 and
>> George Leggett lists many unsubstantiated accusations of torture.
>> Victor Serge later claimed that "during the civil war there was
>> perfect order behind the front itself.... There was nothing to prevent
>> the functioning of regular courts." But most of those killed never had
>> a trial and one Cheka member recalled that "our Red detachments would
>> 'clean up' villages exactly the way the Whites did. What was left of
>> the inhabitants, old men, women, children, were machine-gunned for
>> having given assistance to the enemy." 30
>>
>> The Bolshevik leadership sometimes clearly encouraged brutality. For
>> instance, as the Whites threatened Petrograd, Lenin asked Trotsky: "Is
>> it impossible to mobilise another 2,000 Petrograd workers plus 10,000
>> members of the bourgeoisie, set up cannons behind them, shoot a few
>> hundred of them and obtain a real mass impact on Yudenich?" Trotsky
>> thankfully disregarded this but the Bolsheviks did use terror against
>> whole groups of people such as the Cossacks or the Tambov peasants.
>> The Tambov rebellion of 1920-21 was extremely brutal and the Red Army
>> crushed the uprising with the burning of villages and mass executions.
>> One government order demanded that peasants should be shot simply for
>> "giving shelter to members of a 'bandit's' family".
>>
>> The Terror encouraged many anarchists to join Nestor Makhno's peasant
>> movement in the Ukraine. This movement was much more popular than the
>> Bolsheviks in some areas so the Red Army made three successful
>> alliances with him against the Whites. In these areas only 'working
>> people' could stand for soviet elections, not Bolsheviks or SRs, but
>> there were no restrictions on their press provided they did not
>> advocate an armed uprising. However in the summer of 1919 the
>> Bolsheviks executed several of Makhno's officers and tried to ban the
>> Makhnovist peasant congresses. From then on the two sides fought
>> fiercely whenever the White threat diminished. Both sides shot
>> prisoners but Makhno's army tended to restrict executions to those in
>> authority whereas the Bolsheviks shot many rank-and-file Makhnovists.
>> 31
>>
>> Notes used:
>>
>> 30 Farber, 117-19; LCW v35, 349; v30, 510; Leggett, 465, 198, 184,
>> 328-33, 349; E.Poretsky, Our Own People, 214. In the first months
>> repression was relatively mild and many prisons had education
>> facilities. However concentration camps were set up from July 1918 and
>> mortality reached 30% in those in the north. Leggett says they were
>> sometimes cleared by mass executions. The death penalty was formally
>> abolished in 1920 but it was evaded by the local chekas and revoked by
>> the summer. M.Jakobson, The Origins of the Gulag, 37, 23-4, 40.
>>
>> 31 Farber, 123; Service, 43; M.Palij, The Anarchism of Nestor Makhno,
>> 151-2, 175-7, 212-19; M.Malet, Nestor Makhno..., 32, 39, 100, 129,
>> 136.
>>
>>                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Notice that the opening sentence declared the cause of the Red Terror.
>> It said: "The Red Terror was partly a reaction to the greater horrors
>> of the anti-Bolshevik terror in which 23,000 Reds were killed in
>> Finland and 100,000 Jews were murdered in the Ukraine."
>>
>> Anti-Bolsheviks killed 100,000 Jews. Were Bolsheviks Jews?
>>
>> Here are some extracts from numerous sources:
>>
>> "Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>> commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>> the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>> which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>> common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>> Consider this:
>>
>> Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>> Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>> Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>> Russian Bolshevik party.
>>
>> In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>> and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>> scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>> on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>> 824-827).
>>                         -------------------------------------
>>
>> U.S. Gov't Printing Office House Document 1868
>> (65th Congress, 3d session- file# 861.00/8029):
>> Report of the Netherland Minister Relating to the conditions in
>> Petrograd.
>>
>> "Whole Soviet government has sunk to the level of a criminal
>> organisation. Bolsheviks realise that their game is up and have
>> entered into a career of criminal madness."
>>
>> "I found it necessary to promise that Litvinov should be allowed to
>> leave England at once..."
>>
>> "The foregoing report will indicate the extremely critical nature of
>> the present situation. The danger is now so great that I feel it is my
>> duty to call the attention of the British and all other Governments to
>> the fact that if an end is not put to Bolshevism in Russia at once the
>> civilisation of the whole world will be threatened...."
>>
>> "...the danger is also being realised in German and Austrian quarters.
>> I consider that the immediate suppression of Bolshevism is the
>> greatest issue now before the world, not even excluding the war which
>> is still raging, and unless as above stated Bolshevism is nipped in
>> the bud immediately it is bound to spread in one form or another over
>> Europe and the whole world as it is organised and worked by Jews who
>> have no nationality, and whose one object is to destroy for their own
>> ends the existing order of things."
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>> About Trotsky, who authorized the slaughter mentioned above:
>>
>> http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>
>> Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>> November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>> Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>> with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>
>> Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>> Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>> Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>> Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>> exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>> adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>> Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>> publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>> writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>
>> At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>> Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>> independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>> ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>> an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>> practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>> Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>> Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>> backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>> Results and Prospects.
>>
>> Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>> his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>> 1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>> Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>> leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>> Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>> Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>> eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>> Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>> Committee.
>>
>> As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>> September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>> provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>> support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>> hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>> directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>> revolution......
>>
>>
>> ----
>> Visit the Official Doc Tavish Library at:
>>
>> http://www.crusader.net/texts/cng/doc
>



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On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:20:34 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:

>Kolyan wrote:
>> 
>> SOMEONE is absolutely false in many facts (52 per in VKP(b) are judes...),
>> but there were a lot of judes involved to revoluton 17. He forgot only one
>> simple
>> thing - 99 per of them were executed by Iosif Vissarionovich.
>
>I presume you mean Josef Vissarionovich Dzugashvili??
>
>> The simpliest
>> example is Bronstein (Trotsky) who was very talanted organizator. I want to
>> mention that many judes served to Hitler and holocost is reconsidered now.
>> Hitler wanted to improve nazist influence on Middle East by help of Israel
>> and judes - what would you say on that?
>
>Of course the judes worked for Hitler, the same as they worked for
>Stalin. Read the attached for clarification.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:32:24 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:45:25 -0600, John Walker
> wrote:
>
>>(See reply below)
>>
>>sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:49:08 -0700, Milton Wong 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >The Jews are universally disliked. They are hated by people of all
>>> >non-Jewish nationalities, races and religions. Why is this so?
>>> >
>>> >A Jew is defined as a person with Jewish ancestry or Jewish faith. An
>>> >ethnic Jew who is a follower of a non-Jewish religion is still a Jew.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews' physical characteristics, including enormous noses and other
>>> >repulsive facial features, curly hair, and ape-like body hair, are
>>> >naturally repulsive to non-Jews. However, this is not the primary reason
>>> >why Jews are disliked.
>>> >
>>> >In my experience, the Jews are in general lying, cheating, slandering,
>>> >and dishonest. They lack moral integrity, and are probably unable to
>>> >distinguish right from wrong. They are greedy (for money and for power)
>>> >and selfish by nature. A piece of advice: never buy a used car from a
>>> >Jew or Jewish-owned company!
>>> >
>>> >Jews will do anything to hurt and destroy anyone who dares to disagree
>>> >with them.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews are stealing $3 billion/year from US taxpayers, and sending it
>>> >to Israel as foreign aid. Israel neither needs nor deserves any foreign
>>> >aid.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews control the US media and government. This is why US media are
>>> >more biased in favor of Israel than media anywhere else in the world
>>> >(except Israel, of course). This is also why the US, as the only country
>>> >of any significance in the world, continues to support Israel. Whenever
>>> >the Israeli Jews torture and kill innocent Palestinians, the rest of the
>>> >world rightly condemns Israel. The United States however always refuses
>>> >to condemn any wrongdoing by Israel. This is of course not surprising at
>>> >all. The US government is dominated by and controlled by Jews. The US
>>> >congress is controlled by the Jewish pro-Israeli lobby. This is why $3
>>> >billion/year of US taxpayers' money continues to be sent to Israel as
>>> >foreign aid.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews invented communism, which is responsible for the murders of
>>> >more innocent people than any other political movement. Many leading
>>> >communists were/are Jews. Not surprisingly, anti-Jewish feelings are
>>> >strong in Eastern Europe and Russia.
>>> >
>>> >The Jews stole the Palestinians' homeland. The way the Jews treat the
>>> >Palestinians is remarkably similar to how the Nazis allegedly treated
>>> >the Jews.
>>> >
>>> >In my opinion, the Jews have provoked the "anti-semitism" they are
>>> >always complaining about.
>>
>>==== Reply: ===========
>>Jewish Leadership
>>------------------
>>There is an old saying in the world of salesmanship: "Once you have made the
>>sale, shut up!."
>>This is what I see to be a major reason for the growing "anti-Semitic"
>>provocation mentioned above.
>>The result  is a backlash against a tired old formula which is starting to
>>lose it's effectiveness. The Jewish problem is that they can't "shut up".
>>
>>Everywhere on the Internet we witness Jews promoting Jewish leadership.
>>Anyone with the
>>slightest argument against them is accused by Jews of hate. Those refusing to
>>accept Jewish self promotion and  Jewish leadership  are placed in the unfair
>>position of being  branded as  hate mongers. The real hate mongers, in this
>>case, is the Jews.
>>Intellectual honesty in these debates  is seldom condoned. Rather than an
>>offering of counter facts,
>>most often anti Jewish rebuttals are substituted with mere insults which
>>almost always  include accusations of unfounded hatred against the Jews.
>>
>>While Christians, Muslims, and others are busy converting people to their
>>religion, Jews are busy
>>promoting people to their Jewish influence. Gaining success in this activity
>>they are able to form a thought control machine wherein Jewish interests are
>>to be paramount.  The  very powerful Jewish lobby in the United States of
>>America is an example of that influence and leadership  which Jews now enjoy
>>- and it is supported for through the USA gifting of around 3 billion dollars
>>per year to Israel. Much of that money comes back to haunt us.
>>
>>Currently (981025), Jewish influence is testing their level of control by way
>>of trying to get the Jewish American traitor and super spy, J. Pollard,
>>released from prison even though Pollard remains a continuing threat to USA
>>security.. But Israel itself  has betrayed her friendship with the United
>>States by recruiting Pollard to spy for the Jewish state.  Through such acts,
>>Israel was able to sell top secret technical information to countries which
>>act against our security interests.  All of this amounts to even more reason
>>why so much "anti-Semitism" is generated by the Jews themselves.
>>
>>A real friend would not do what Israel has been doing to the United States.
>>Can any reasonable
>>USA patriot citizen offer continued loyalty to that country - Israel - which
>>has betrayed the US more than all others combined?
>>
>>The common pro-Jewish argument is that Jews have suffered throughout the ages
>>and that they must
>>gain world leadership as a matter of security.  The argument continues to be
>>strained as we observe
>>that, more and more, according to the Jews, only Jewish suffering is to have
>>any real meaning.  Witness the Jewish Holocaust museums where none but the
>>Jewish victims  are remembered for the carnage's of W.W.II. The over one
>>hundred million victims of socialist states, since the communist revolution,
>>don't even make it to most history books.
>>
>>I believe I have been objective and honest  in this reply. My message was
>>more by way of observation than it was of accusation.  Still, I can expect
>>extreme distortions from Jews all over,  Jews who I have not met, who will
>>accuse me of hating them.  But, they want me to hate them because that
>>alleged hate is what motivates Jews more than anything else to fight, ever
>>more, for their selfish influence in the affairs of our daily lives.
>>
>>Jews are the only ones who will tell you that you hate them -
>>and if  you disagree, they will argue with you until you do.
>>
>>== jw =====



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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 00:41:19 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.      
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>>        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>>        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>>        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>>        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>>        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>>        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German "death camps" were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>>        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>>        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>>        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>   
>>>>        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted. 
>>>
>>>>        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum. 
>>>
>>>>        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>>        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.        
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>>        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>>        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>>        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>>        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>>        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>>        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>>        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>>        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>>        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>>        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>>        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>  
>>>>        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well. 
>>>
>>>>        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>>        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring. 
>>>
>>>>        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        About 300,000.
>>>
>>>>        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>>        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>>        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>>        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
>>>
>>>>        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>>        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.        
>>>
>>>>        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>>        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>>        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>>        About two hours.
>>>
>>>>        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>>        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>>        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>>        About 430,600.
>>>
>>>>        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>>        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>>        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>        
>>>>        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>>        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>>        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>>        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>>        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>>        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
>>>
>>>>        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust. 
>>>
>>>>        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>>        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>>        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text. 
>>>
>>>>        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it. 
>>>
>>>>        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>>>>man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine. 
>>>
>>>>        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin's butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay's
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>>        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>       
>>>>        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>>        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>>        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada. 
>>>
>>>>        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>>        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>>        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>>        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>>        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>>        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>>        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>>        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making. 
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg's
>>>>production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>>        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>>        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>>        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>>        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned. 
>>>
>>>>        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany. 
>>>
>>>>        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>>        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people's
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country's original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>>        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>>        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew> could 
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser



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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:25:45 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:
>On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 16:29:22 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>From Deja News is the attached article,certainly worth further
>>discussion
>>>On Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:52:09 -0500, holman@elo.helsinki.fi (Eugene
>>>Holman) wrote:

>>>>Would any readers of soc.culture.polish care to comment on the claims made
>>>>here.      


>>>>1. WHAT PROOF EXISTS THAT THE NAZIS PRACTICED GENOCIDE OR
>>>>DELIBERATELY KILLED SIX MILLION JEWS?
>>>>
>>>>        None. The only evidence is the contradictory testimony of
>>>>individual "survivors", and no "survivor" claims actually to have
>>>>witnessed any gassing. There is no hard evidence whatsoever. No mounds
>>>>of ashes, no piles of clothes, no crematoria capable of doing the job,
>>>>no human soap, no lampshades made out of human skin, no records, no
>>>>demographic statistics.
>>>>
>>>>        On the other hand there exists extensive evidence of a
>>>>forensic, demographic, analytical, documentary, anecdotal, and
>>>>comparative nature which clearly proves the impossibility of such a
>>>>figure as six million Jewish dead, an exaggeration of possibly 1000%.
>>>> >I can offer some coins, stamps for collectors/collections, even a
>>>>> >military parachute, as well as Malaysian 22k plated gold jewellery.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, by reading the attached text, which proves that almost
>>>half of the original 600,000 JEWs in Germany were in the German
>>>military, one MUST question the alleged figures used by the JEWS to
>>>extort money from gullible governments!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>>        2. HOW DID GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS DIFFER FROM AMERICAN
>>>>RELOCATION CAMPS WHICH INTERNED JAPANESE AND GERMAN-AMERICANS DURING
>>>>WORLD
>>>>WAR TWO?
>>>
>>>>        Except for the name, the only difference was that the Germans
>>>>interned persons who were a real or suspected threat to the German war
>>>>effort, whereas the Americans interned persons on the basis of their
>>>>race or national origin alone.
>>>
>>>>        3. WHY DID THE GERMAN AUTHORITIES INTERN JEWS IN THE
>>>>CONCENTRATION CAMPS?
>>>
>>>>        Because the Germans considered the Jews a direct threat to
>>>>their national sovereignty and survival, correctly as it turned out.
>>>>Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Germany in Communist subversion
>>>>during the Weimar period. On a per capita basis, Jews were highly
>>>>overrepresented in government, commercial, and media positions.
>>>>However, ALL suspected security risks, not just Jews, were in danger of
>>>>internment once the war broke out.
>>>
>>>>        On March 24th, 1933, international Jewry declared war on
>>>>Germany and ordered a world-wide boycott of German goods simply because
>>>>the German government had removed Jews from influential positions and
>>>>transferred power back to the German people. The boycott order and the
>>>>Jewish war against Germany were reported in the world print and
>>>>broadcast media of the time. False stories of German "death camps" were
>>>>in fact circulated even before the outbreak of World War Two. Therefore
>>>>the German view of the Jewish people as enemy aliens would seem to have
>>>>been fully justified.
>>>
>>>>        4. DID SIMON WIESENTHAL ONCE ADMIT THAT THERE WERE NEVER ANY
>>>>DEATH CAMPS ON GERMAN SOIL?
>>>
>>>>        Yes. In *Books and Bookmen*, April 1975 issue. He claims the
>>>>gassing of all the Jews took place in Poland.
>>>
>>>>        5. DACHAU IS IN GERMANY. IF EVEN SIMON WIESENTHAL NOW ADMITS IT
>>>>WAS NOT A DEATH CAMP, WHY DO THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN VETERANS SAY IT WAS?
>>>   
>>>>        Because after the Allies captured Dachau (and incidentally
>>>>murdered dozens of the former staff without trial), thousands of GIs
>>>>were led through the camp and shown buildings alleged to be gas
>>>>chambers. This story was later quietly expunged from official Holocaust
>>>>lore because it became too difficult to maintain in the face of known
>>>>fact and because Dachau was in the Allied occupation zone where access
>>>>to the camp was too easy and unrestricted. 
>>>
>>>>        En passant, the brief lifespan of the "Dachau death camp"
>>>>version gave rise to the first critical examination and questioning of
>>>>the Holocaust myth by historians and by some Allied veterans who
>>>>noticed discrepancies in what they had seen and what they read in
>>>>official accounts. It would be many years, though, before this early
>>>>Holocaust Revisionism gained momentum. 
>>>
>>>>        6. AUSCHWITZ IS IN POLAND, NOT GERMANY. IS THERE ANY PROOF THAT
>>>>GAS CHAMBERS FOR THE PURPOSE OF KILLING PEOPLE EXISTED AT AUSCHWITZ?
>>>
>>>>        No. The "gas chamber" exhibited to tourists at Auschwitz could
>>>>not possibly have been used to carry out executions; it is far too
>>>>small and it is not even airtight. In the 1980s, American expert Fred
>>>>Leuchter, who builds gas chambers for American penal systems, took
>>>>scrapings from the walls of the Auschwitz "gas chamber" for chemical
>>>>analysis. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is
>>>>a fake, pure and simple, a flimsy tourist trap.        
>>>
>>>
>>>Were not the Krema at Auschwitz built by the Polish communists in
>>>1949, long after the war???
>>>
>>>
>>>>        7. IS AUSCHWITZ WASN'T A DEATH CAMP, WHAT WAS ITS TRUE PURPOSE?
>>>
>>>>        It was a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic rubber
>>>>(Buna) was made there, and its inmates were used as a workforce, in the
>>>>same way in which inmate labor is increasingly being used in
>>>>correctional systems throughout the United States today.
>>>
>>>>        8. WHAT ABOUT THE INFAMOUS ZYKLON-B GAS?
>>>
>>>>        Zyklon-B is a commercially manufactured compound of hydrocyanic
>>>>gas. It has a number of widespread industrial uses, including the
>>>>fumigation of lice-infested clothing, the purpose for which it was
>>>>applied at Auschwitz. Zyklon-B is still manufactured worldwide and is
>>>>commonly used and available today.
>>>
>>>>        9. IF AUSCHWITZ WAS NOT AN EXTERMINATION CAMP, WHY DID FORMER
>>>>COMMANDANT RUDOLF HOESS CONFESS THAT IT WAS?
>>>
>>>>        Hoess was captured by the Russians and Polish Communists and
>>>>brutally tortured. He signed his confession, the SOLE SOURCE for the
>>>>figure of six million dead Jews, in English, a language he could not
>>>>read. Some pages of the original document are literally stained with
>>>>Hoess' blood. Hoess was then conveniently executed so he could not be
>>>>cross examined.
>>>
>>>>        10. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FULLY TO VENTILATE AN AREA FUMIGATED
>>>>WITH ZYKLON-B?
>>>
>>>>        About twenty hours. The whole procedure is extremely involved
>>>>and technical. Gas masks have to be used and well trained technicians
>>>>only are employed.
>>>
>>>>        11. RUDOLF HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD
>>>>ENTER THE GAS CHAMBER TEN MINUTES AFTER THE JEWS HAD DIED AND REMOVE
>>>>THE BODIES. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
>>>
>>>>        It can't be explained, because it could not have happened like
>>>>that. Had the Germans done this they would have suffered the same fate
>>>>as the allegedly exterminated Jews.
>>>
>>>>        12. HOESS SAID IN HIS CONFESSION THAT HIS MEN WOULD SMOKE
>>>>CIGARETTES AS THEY PULLED DEAD JEWS OUT OF CHAMBERS WHICH TEN MINUTES
>>>>BEFORE HAD BEEN FILLED WITH GAS. ISN'T ZYKLON-B EXPLOSIVE?
>>>  
>>>>        Highly so. The Hoess confession is obviously false and the six
>>>>million figure as well. 
>>>
>>>>        13. HOW COULD SUCH A MASS MURDER PROGRAM HAVE BEEN KEPT SECRET
>>>>FROM JEWS WHO WERE SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION? HOW COULD THE POPE, THE
>>>>VATICAN, THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS, AND ALLIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
>>>>NOT KNOW?
>>>
>>>>        Given the acknowledged efficiency and penetration of the OSS,
>>>>British MI5, and Soviet NKVD into the Third Reich, it could not have
>>>>been kept secret. Nor can one imagine any reason for the Allies, who
>>>>were fighting to destroy Germany, not to make use of such a potentially
>>>>powerful propaganda weapon, had there been any contemporary evidence at
>>>>all during the war that such an event was occurring. 
>>>
>>>>        14. HOW MANY JEWS ACTUALLY DIED IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        About 300,000.
>>>
>>>>        15. HOW DID THEY DIE?
>>>
>>>>        Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn
>>>>Europe during the period. Typhus is a disease which invariably appears
>>>>whenever people are jammed together for long periods without bathing.
>>>>It is carried by lice which infects hair and clothes. Ironically, if
>>>>the Germans had used more Zyklon-B for disinfectant purposes, more Jews
>>>>might have survived the concentration camps. Jewish prisoners (as well
>>>>as many others) also died from starvation and lack of medical attention
>>>>towards the end of the war when virtually all rail and road transport
>>>>had come to a standstill due to the intense Allied bombing campaign.
>>>
>>>>        16. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER SIX MILLION JEWS OR 300,000
>>>>DIED?
>>>
>>>>        5,700,00. The key question is whether or not there was a
>>>>deliberate, systematic attempt on the part of the Third Reich to
>>>>exterminate the Jews of Europe. The evidence clearly shows that there
>>>>was not, and the focus of world attention now needs to shift to the
>>>>identity, the activities, and the financial and political motivations
>>>>of those who have inflicted on all humanity for the past fifty years
>>>>the grotesque, slanderous, and evil lie that there was a "Holocaust".
>>>
>>>>        17. MANY JEWISH SURVIVORS OF THE "DEATH CAMPS" SAY THEY SAW
>>>>BODIES BEING PILED UP IN PITS AND BURNED. HOW MUCH GASOLINE WOULD HAVE
>>>>BEEN USED TO PERFORM THIS ACT?
>>>
>>>>        A lot more than the Germans had access to or could have
>>>>afforded to waste during the Second World War, that's for sure.        
>>>
>>>>        18. CAN BODIES BE BURNED IN PITS?
>>>
>>>>        No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by
>>>>flames in this manner as not enough heat can be generated in open pits.
>>>>[Note From Winston Smith: I can personally confirm from my own
>>>>observations of both Communist and American atrocities in both the
>>>>American and Rhodesian armed forces that it is impossible completely to
>>>>destroy human bodies en masse with either gasoline, napalm, or in any
>>>>other way in open pits. The Holocaust "experts" who claim otherwise are
>>>>either parroting what they have been told without bothering to check
>>>>their facts, or else they are lying.]
>>>
>>>>        19. HOLOCAUST AUTHORS CLAIM THE NAZIS WERE ABLE TO CREMATE
>>>>BODIES IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES. HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO INCINERATE A BODY
>>>>ACCORDING TO PROFESSIONAL FUNERAL OPERATORS?
>>>
>>>>        About two hours.
>>>
>>>>        20. WHY DID CONCENTRATION CAMPS HAVE CREMATORY OVENS?
>>>
>>>>        To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses dead from
>>>>typhus and other diseases.
>>>
>>>>        21. GIVEN A 100% DUTY CYCLE OF ALL THE KNOWN CREMATORIA IN ALL
>>>>THE CAMPS IN GERMAN-CONTROLLED TERRITORY, WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF
>>>>CORPSES WHICH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO INCINERATE DURING THE
>>>>ENTIRE TIME THE CAMPS WERE IN EXISTENCE?
>>>
>>>>        About 430,600.
>>>
>>>>        22. CAN A CREMATORY OVEN BE OPERATED 100% OF THE TIME?
>>>
>>>>        No. 50% of the time is a very generous estimate, or 12 hours
>>>>per day. Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly
>>>>when in heavy operation.
>>>
>>>>        23. ON THE AVERAGE, HOW MUCH ASH IS LEFT FROM A CREMATED
>>>>CORPSE?
>>>        
>>>>        After the bone is ground down into powder, a separate
>>>>time-consuming process in itself, about a shoe box full.
>>>
>>>>        24. IF SIX MILLION PEOPLE WERE INCINERATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THE ASHES?
>>>
>>>>        That remains to be "explained". Six million bodies would
>>>>produce literally mountains of ash, tons upon tons. Yet there have been
>>>>no discoveries of any huge deposits of ash in the Auschwitz are or
>>>>anywhere else in Europe.
>>>
>>>>        25. DO ALLIED WARTIME PHOTOS OF AUSCHWITZ, TAKEN FROM THE AIR,
>>>>SHOW ANY SIGNS OF CREMATORIA IN FULL BLAST OPERATION?
>>>
>>>>        No. These photographs do not reveal even a trace of the immense
>>>>amount of smoke which must have hung constantly over the camp, nor do
>>>>they show any evidence of the alleged open pits where the bodies were
>>>>burned.
>>>
>>>>        26. WHAT DID THE INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE
>>>>WHOLE "HOLOCAUST" ISSUE?
>>>
>>>>        A report of the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in
>>>>September of 1944 pointed out that internees were allowed to receive
>>>>packages and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. The
>>>>full official report of the International Red Cross on the Second World
>>>>War makes no mention at all of the so-called Holocaust or any of the
>>>>wilder allegations connected with the so-called Holocaust. 
>>>
>>>>        Interestingly, in 1996, fifty years after the war's end, the
>>>>liberal media in America and Europe began running a series of articles
>>>>claiming that the Red Cross was "full of Nazi sympathizers". This
>>>>charge is entirely bogus and may be chalked up to belated Jewish
>>>>attempts at damage control as the Holocaust myth crumbles steadily in
>>>>the light of factual examination and critical analysis.
>>>
>>>>        27. IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
>>>
>>>>        Not as published, no. The evidence compiled by Dietlieb
>>>>Felderer of Sweden and Dr. Robert Faurisson of France proves
>>>>conclusively that the published version of the famous diary is a
>>>>literary hoax. There was a girl named Anne Frank, and sections of the
>>>>diary appear to be genuine, including several wherein she describes
>>>>adolescent lesbian sexual experiences which were later excised from the
>>>>published text. 
>>>
>>>>        In 1950 Anne Frank's father sued author Meyer Levin, the actual
>>>>writer of the diary, over royalties from the book. A Jewish judge in
>>>>New York ordered the records of the court case sealed for 100 years.
>>>>When the original diary was put on display a few years later, it was
>>>>noticed that the most poignant sections of the book were interpolations
>>>>written in a forged handwriting in BALL POINT PEN, a writing instrument
>>>>which was not invented until 1950. The original diary was swiftly
>>>>removed from exhibit and whisked away into a safety deposit box in
>>>>Israel. It has never been produced for examination since then despite
>>>>repeated attempts by scholars to view it. 
>>>
>>>>        28. WHAT ABOUT ALL THE NUMEROUS PHOTOGRAPHS AND FILM FOOTAGE
>>>>ALLEGEDLY TAKEN IN GERMAN CONCENTRATION CAMPS SHOWING EMACIATED CORPSES
>>>>AND PEOPLE? ARE THESE FAKED?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, but most of the fakery lies in the captioning.
>>>>Corpses of German air raid victims, for example, are labeled as dead
>>>>Jews. One famous and oft-reprinted photo purports to show a "Nazi SS
>>>>man" about to shoot a mother holding her child; on closer examination
>>>>of the blurry print with a magnifying glass, it is clear to military
>>>>historians familiar with the uniforms and weapons of the period that
>>>>the killer is a Red Army soldier wielding a Russian-made carbine. 
>>>
>>>>        (The Exterminationist habit of blaming the Germans for
>>>>atrocities actually carried out by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin
>>>>remains common, even though some of the more notorious examples like
>>>>the Katyn Forest massacre of Polish prisoners have now been properly
>>>>laid at the door of the Kremlin. That this kind of fraud continues to
>>>>be perpetrated by Holocaust "experts" is not surprising in view of the
>>>>fact that almost all of them espouse Marxist or extreme left-wing views
>>>>and are as quick to apologize for and explain away Stalin's butcheries
>>>>as they are to invent fraudulent crimes attributed to Adolf Hitler. The
>>>>almost universally leftist political and social orientation of
>>>>Holocaust defenders is important and should always be born in mind when
>>>>examining their claims; letting Stalin off the hook is almost as
>>>>important to them as blackening and defaming the memory of Hitler and
>>>>the German people. A good example of this is Nizkor leader Ken McVay's
>>>>refusal to accept any more NSWPP e-mail after General Secretary Smith
>>>>asked him why he did not condemn the mass murders of Stalin.)
>>>
>>>>        29. WHAT WAS THE ROLE OF THE VATICAN DURING THE TIME IN WHICH
>>>>SIX MILLION JEWS WERE ALLEGEDLY EXTERMINATED?
>>>       
>>>>        Had there been an extermination plan being carried out in a
>>>>predominantly Catholic country like Poland, the Vatican would certainly
>>>>have been in a position to learn about it. Since no such plan existed,
>>>>the Vatican had no need to speak out about it.
>>>
>>>>        30. WHAT EVIDENCE IS THERE THAT ADOLF HITLER ORDERED THE
>>>>EXTERMINATION OF THE JEWS?
>>>
>>>>        None. No documentary evidence of any kind indicating a
>>>>deliberate extermination plan on the part of the Nazis has ever come to
>>>>light. No signed order from Hitler, from Reichsfuhrer-SS Heinrich
>>>>Himmler, or from any other functionary of the Third Reich ordering the
>>>>extermination of the Jews has ever been discovered. The Nazis were
>>>>meticulous records-keepers and literally tons of documents were seized
>>>>by the Allies at the end of the war, so many it took Allied archivists
>>>>and scholars years to organize, file, and catalog them all. Nothing.
>>>>Zip. Nada. 
>>>
>>>>        31. DID THE GERMANS AND THE ZIONISTS COLLABORATE BEFORE AND
>>>>DURING THE WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Absolutely. Both groups were interested in removing the Jews
>>>>from Europe (the Zionists wanted the Jews shipped to Palestine) and
>>>>they maintained friendly relations throughout the war. The German
>>>>official in charge of shipping thousands of Jews to then
>>>>British-occupied Palestine (including future Israeli prime minister
>>>>Menachem Begin) was Adolf Eichmann; after the war the Holocaust
>>>>industry considered this secret so volatile and dangerous that Eichmann
>>>>was abducted by the Israeli Mossad and subsequently murdered in order
>>>>to silence him.
>>>
>>>
>>>In Canada there was adetailed story in Toronto Life about the roles of
>>>the Reichman and gestetner families in providing assistance to the
>>>Germans in WWII. The Jews are not happy about this public exposure,and
>>>have tried to restrict distribution of this news, which is available
>>>from the publishers in Toronto at Toronto Life.
>>>
>>>
>>>>        32. HOW MANY JEWS WERE IN AREAS WHICH CAME TO BE CONTROLLED BY
>>>>THE GERMANS DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR?
>>>
>>>>        Slightly less than four million.
>>>
>>>>        33. HOW MANY JEWS FLED DEEP INTO THE SOVIET UNION TO ESCAPE THE
>>>>NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Over two million. The Germans did not have access to them to
>>>>kill them.
>>>
>>>>        34. IF EUROPEAN JEWS WEREN'T EXTERMINATED BY THE NAZIS, WHAT
>>>>HAPPENED TO THEM?
>>>
>>>>        After the war most Jews emigrated to Palestine, the United
>>>>States, Argentina, Canada, and Great Britain. Except for about 300,000,
>>>>they are all accounted for.
>>>
>>>>        35. HOW DOES THE HOLOCAUST STORY BENEFIT THE JEWISH PEOPLE
>>>>TODAY?
>>>
>>>>        It shields them from any criticism over their political,
>>>>economic, and social behavior. It is instrumental in raising immense
>>>>sums of "guilt money", especially from the German government. It
>>>>justifies aid to the state of Israel totaling almost $10 billion
>>>>dollars per year from various sources. Israel has received almost $70
>>>>billion dollars in assorted "Holocaust reparations" and the ante is
>>>>growing every year. It is clearly in the interest of Israel and the
>>>>Jewish people to keep the scam going.
>>>
>>>>        36. ARE FILMS LIKE "HOLOCAUST", "SCHINDLER'S LIST", AND "THE
>>>>WINDS OF WAR" DOCUMENTARIES?
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood movies are not history and are not intended to be.
>>>>They are fictionalized dramas. The characters in movies are actors, not
>>>>real people, who are being very highly paid for their portrayals of
>>>>events that did not in fact occur. They read their lines from a
>>>>screenplay written by Hollywood scriptwriters, a profession where Jews
>>>>are very highly overrepresented, as they are in the studios and the
>>>>creative and financial sectors of film making. 
>>>
>>>>        Hollywood is such an extremely unreliable source of history
>>>>that in recent years even mainstream reviewers and commentators have
>>>>begun to express doubt and suspicion over some films. For example, the
>>>>character of Oscar Schindler as portrayed by Liam Neeson in Spielberg's
>>>>production of "Schindler's List" was sanitized to the point of being
>>>>unrecognizable. Schindler was portrayed as almost saintly, and yet none
>>>>of those still living who remember the man have a single good word to
>>>>say about him. The real Schindler was a confidence artist, a thief, a
>>>>libertine and degenerate gambler who indulged freely in forced sexual
>>>>relations with young female camp inmates, who later abandoned his wife
>>>>and fled with his mistress to Brazil after embezzling a large sum of
>>>>money. Other major directors like Oliver Stone have come under fire
>>>>because their portrayals of historical characters like Nixon and events
>>>>like the JFK assassination reflect a paranoid obsession with the most
>>>>bizarre of left-wing conspiracy theories.
>>>
>>>>        37. ABOUT HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN PUBLISHED WHICH REFUTE SOME
>>>>ASPECT OF THE STANDARDS JEWISH CLAIMS ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        Over 100, with more in the works.
>>>
>>>>        38. BUT AREN'T ALL THOSE WHO QUESTION THE HOLOCAUST
>>>>ANTI-SEMITIC OR NEO-NAZIS?
>>>
>>>>        Some are, although why such people should be denied the same
>>>>right to advance their viewpoint which liberal democracy grants so
>>>>freely to Jews and liberals in this purportedly free society is never
>>>>explained. The NSWPP is a National Socialist organization, although
>>>>unlike the Jews we acknowledge our identity and our ideological
>>>>position in the open. Most Revisionists, however, are academics,
>>>>genuine scholars who seek only the truth. Many hold liberal or
>>>>libertarian views, although these views often change as they are
>>>>subjected to the intense persecution which accompanies any deviation
>>>>from the official orthodoxy on the Holocaust.
>>>
>>>>        39. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HISTORIANS WHO DISPUTE THE OFFICIAL
>>>>VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST?
>>>
>>>>        A variety of unpleasant things. Significantly, the Jews have
>>>>always refused to debate the facts of the Holocaust openly with
>>>>Revisionists. An Internet group allegedly set up for this purpose
>>>>called Nizkor does not in fact debate Revisionists, but engages in
>>>>hysterical campaigns of ad hominem abuse against anyone who dares to
>>>>express any dissent or doubt in re Holocaust orthodoxy. It is clear
>>>>from many of the postings to Nizkor's Internet playgroups that they
>>>>have attracted a number of people, mostly Jews but some left-liberal
>>>>Gentiles as well, who are motivated by intense racial bigotry and
>>>>ideological hatred of anyone who disagrees with them, and who in some
>>>>cases appear to be severely mentally and emotionally disturbed.
>>>
>>>>        The Jews respond to any questioning of the Holocaust with
>>>>hatred, violence, and persecution, which in itself is the surest
>>>>giveaway that they have something to hide. In many countries those who
>>>>ask politically incorrect or searching questions about the Holocaust
>>>>are arrested, tortured, and imprisoned. 
>>>
>>>>        Dr. Robert Faurisson was assaulted by a Jewish gang who beat
>>>>him so badly that he was almost crippled. In California, a major
>>>>Revisionist bookseller's offices were burned, and in Toronto
>>>>Revisionist author Ernst Zundel's home was almost destroyed in an arson
>>>>attack. Zundel was subjected to a bizarre series of show trials lasting
>>>>over ten years, and after being finally acquitted he has been denied
>>>>Canadian citizenship and is still battling attempts to deport him to
>>>>prison and torture in Germany. 
>>>
>>>>        An American citizen, Gerhard Lauck of Lincoln, Nebraska, was
>>>>kidnapped by the German government and at this writing is serving a
>>>>lengthy prison sentence in Germany for the "crime" of writing
>>>>pro-National Socialist commentary IN THE UNITED STATES where it is
>>>>legal. Another American citizen, Hans Schmidt of Florida, was also
>>>>abducted, held in prison in Germany for almost a year, and released
>>>>only after an international outcry. Schmidt's "crime" was writing a
>>>>pro-Revisionist article, in English, in a newsletter published and
>>>>distributed in the United States. German nationalist Manfred Roeder has
>>>>been imprisoned so many times he's lost count. Revisionists have been
>>>>stripped of jobs and academic posts, denied tenure in universities,
>>>>victimized by harassing lawsuits, received bombs in the mail, and
>>>>subjected to constant death threats from Jews and Marxists.
>>>
>>>>        THESE ARE NOT THE REACTIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE. Innocent people
>>>>who are accused of a crime or a fraud do not respond by trying to kill,
>>>>imprison, or forcibly silence their accusers. More than anything else,
>>>>the behavior of the Jews and the governments they influence so strongly
>>>>proves that the Holocaust is a fraud. If the Holocaust was true,
>>>>neither the Jews nor any state authority would need to use force to
>>>>silence criticism, any more than force need be used against people who
>>>>believe the earth is flat. The arrests, imprisonment, assaults and
>>>>torchings are the moral equivalent of a full confession on the part of
>>>>the Jewish people that they are contemptible liars who have imposed the
>>>>most massive and vicious hoax in history on all of humanity, and have
>>>>used that hoax as an excuse to rob us blind, steal another people's
>>>>country, and then to slaughter that country's original inhabitants at
>>>>will, as according to National Public Radio they are doing even now as
>>>>I type this, in the town of Ramallah.
>>>
>>>>        40. HAVE THESE THUGGISH TACTICS SUCCEEDED IN SILENCING
>>>>REVISIONISTS?
>>>
>>>>        No. They have only made Revisionists more determined than ever
>>>>to ensure that the truth comes out and that the nations of the earth
>>>>understand how the Jewish people have lied to them, defrauded them, and
>>>>robbed them for over half a century now with the Holocaust lie. There
>>>>can be little doubt that in succeeding generations the Holocaust will
>>>>be accepted by mainstream historians and the public at large for what
>>>>it is: a politically inspired hoax.
>>>
>>>>NOTE: This article was partially re-worked by me from material in a
>>>>pamphlet provided by the Institute for Historical Review. For further
>>>>information on Revisionism, the IHR may be contacted at
>>>>ihrgreg@kaiwan.com - W.S.
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew> could 
>>> ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser
sven88


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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:39:08 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:53:01 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:18:57 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:27:27 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:52:15 -0400, "[Unknown sender]"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Hide your crimes behind the holohoax!
>>>
>>>Date: Monday, 22-Dec-97 06:45 PM
>>>
>>>Subject: 6 Indicted in Fraud Over Use of Grants for Hasidic Groups
>>>
>>>   Excerpt:
>>>
>>>   The Federal subpoenas are "...remindful of the Holocaust that many in
>>>   this community endured decades ago."
>>>
>>>   By BENJAMIN WEISER N.Y. Times May 29, 1997 (Metro section only)
>>>
>>>   NEW YORK -- Five members of a Hasidic community in Rockland County and
>>>   one in Brooklyn were indicted Wednesday on charges that they
>>>   systematically defrauded the federal and state governments of tens of
>>>   millions of dollars in student loans, business assistance and housing
>>>   subsidies.
>>>
>>>   In one scheme, according to federal prosecutors, a Talmudic seminary in
>>>   Brooklyn was financed almost entirely by federal Pell grants awarded to
>>>   ineligible or nonexistent students. The defendants also looted state
>>>   student aid programs, Small Business Administration programs and the
>>>   federal Section 8 housing program, prosecutors said.
>>>
>>>   The plans, the authorities said, were used to enrich the defendants but
>>>   also to benefit the community institutions of New Square, the Rockland
>>>   County village, along with the yeshiva in New Square.
>>>
>>>   In a broad indictment unsealed Wednesday in Manhattan, the U.S.
>>>   attorney's office depicted a vast scheme by which the six men and others
>>>   enrolled thousands of New Square and Brooklyn residents in post-secondary
>>>   education programs in Jewish seminaries and Rockland County Community
>>>   College in order to fraudulently obtain money through federal Pell
>>>   grants, which are awarded to needy post-secondary students.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said that most of the students were not eligible for the
>>>   grants, did not get their degrees and, in some cases, enrolled after
>>>   recruiters promised them hundreds of dollars a year. Prosecutors said
>>>   that one Brooklyn seminary program fraudulently got $10.3 million in Pell
>>>   grants "on behalf of its purported students."
>>>
>>>   The government's investigation has been no secret in the tightly knit
>>>   community of about 6,000 in New Square, which consists almost entirely of
>>>   Hasidim. News of the indictment drew sharp criticism there Wednesday. A
>>>   statement by village representatives contended that the U.S. attorney in
>>>   Manhattan, Mary Jo White, had a "vendetta" against New Square residents,
>>>   and that federal agents had earlier scared small children there by
>>>   serving subpoenas at 6 a.m. "in a manner remindful of the Holocaust that
>>>   many in this community endured decades ago."
>>>
>>>   Rabbi Mayer Schiller, (1) who said he was a spokesman for the residents,
>>>   said he was certain that the accusations would be proven false. "They
>>>   have imposed a reign of terror on this entire community," he said,
>>>   referring to the federal prosecutors."
>>>
>>>   Ms. White responded by citing an earlier phase of the investigation when,
>>>   in 1995, a federal judge held the Yeshiva of New Square in contempt of
>>>   court for failing to obey a grand jury subpoena for its bank records and
>>>   other documents, which led to a $1 million fine paid by the yeshiva.
>>>
>>>   "Given the repeated efforts to obstruct the grand jury's investigation,"
>>>   she said, "the response and accusations of unfair treatment are
>>>   disheartening, but not surprising."
>>>
>>>   The indictment was vague about just how the money was put to use, and
>>>   just how much ended up back in the community.
>>>
>>>   Schiller said that New Square was founded in 1957 by four Holocaust
>>>   survivors, including Chaim Berger, one of the defendants named in
>>>   Wednesday's indictment.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said Berger had been a member of the village's board of
>>>   trustees and the board of the Yeshiva of New Square, and was chairman of
>>>   the board of the Brooklyn seminary, Toldos Yakov Yosef, where many of the
>>>   New Square and Brooklyn students receiving Pell grants were enrolled.
>>>
>>>   The indictment asserted that Berger and two other of the seminary's
>>>   administrators, Kalmen Stern and David Goldstein, created a false picture
>>>   of the seminary's programs. The indictment said they falsified resumes,
>>>   minutes of the board meetings and reviews of student progress to get
>>>   federal money.
>>>
>>>   The seminary was financed "almost exclusively" by Pell grants awarded to
>>>   the school on behalf of its "alleged" students from 1987 to 1993, the
>>>   indictment said, but in reality, it added, the school enrolled students
>>>   who did not meet the requirements, were not seeking a degree, and did not
>>>   take tests or even take part in any actual program of study.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said that in the early 1980s, Berger and others helped
>>>   create a program for "independent Judaic Studies" for New Square students
>>>   at Rockland County Community College.
>>>
>>>   From 1982 to 1988, thousands of students were enrolled, and most got Pell
>>>   grants and state tuition aid. The indictment said that many of these
>>>   students were also not eligible for aid, and in some cases, did not even
>>>   know they were enrolled.
>>>
>>>   "Some New Square and Brooklyn residents were enrolled in as many as five
>>>   different educational institutions, and received Pell Grants for as many
>>>   as 10 or more years, without ever receiving any degree or any certificate
>>>   reflecting that they had completed a program of study," the indictment
>>>   said.
>>>
>>>   Besides Berger and Stern, the indictment charged three other New Square
>>>   residents, Jacob Elbaum; Berger's son, Benjamin, and Avrum D.  Friesel
>>>   who, according to Schiller, is the son of New Square's mayor.  Goldstein,
>>>   the sixth defendant, lives in Brooklyn.
>>>
>>>   None of the defendants or their lawyers could be reached for comment
>>>   Wednesday. Gerald Shargel, a lawyer for the Yeshiva of New Square, said
>>>   he could not comment on the specifics of the case.
>>>
>>>



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:13:00 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:26:53 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:42:09 +0930, Seppo Renfors
>> wrote:
>>>Scott Balson wrote:
>>>> yvonne cooke wrote:
>>
>>>> > If "One Nation" is so worthy, what is wrong with people being members? Would
>>>> > not such a person as the woman (now deceased) named on his web page and her
>>>> > family have been proud of her membership?
>> 
>>>> OK then how would YOU and the MEDIA react if I published the Australia/Israel
>>>> Review subscription list?
>>
>>>THEY would laugh at you. Try it an see I dare you to!
>>
>>>> I would be labelled anti-semitic and a danger to society, but the politically
>>>> correct community niches (such as some zionists) are untouchable. Sounds like
>>>> the Indian caste system to me AND IT STINKS!
>>
>>>> > If publication was so bad, why has the web page owner named her on his web
>>>> > page, spreading confidential membership information so much further?
>> 
>>>> She is with friends on our web site she is with bigoted little arseholes when
>>>> she is referred to in that trashy magazine.
>>
>>>> > What is more likely to concern the executive of ON is that members of the
>>>> > reported totalitarian structure now know who other members are.
>>>> > The author of the web page has joined tabloid print and TV in doing more
>>>> > harm than the original article with its limited readership ever would have.
>>
>>
>>>> Bullshit - you are a complete arsehole aren't you.
>>
>>>The PHONey logic, if confronted with the TRUTH, resort to
>>>abuse, standard PHONey policy!
>>
>>>> The problem facing these zionist publishers is that they are without ethics by
>>>> publishing names and suburbs and if a One Nation member is firebombed because of
>>>> their action they will face bankruptcy through legal claims against them.
>>
>>



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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:11:33 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:07:24 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>
>>Here  is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>
>>The Kastner Case
>>
>>                              
>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>
>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>are generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy'
>>about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for
>>money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated'
>>by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>>
>>                              The Accusations
>>
>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>
>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
>>Herald, he wrote:
>>
>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>
>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>silence.
>>
>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>>exterminations.
>>
>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>
>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
>>With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben
>>Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
>>
>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>
>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
>>operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
>>elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
>>negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
>>them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
>>Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
>>resisting deportation - and even keep order in the collection camps -
>>if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
>>Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
>>not too high for me.
>>
>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
>>case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
>>and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>
>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>
>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal 'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
>>helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
>>escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
>>or so Jews...That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>of  Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
>>prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
>>Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
>>the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>>                                The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court
>>of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence  in the false information that they were being transferred
>>to Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
>>mislead the Jews.
>>
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
>>overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
>>activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
>>leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
>>community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
>>Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
>>Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
>>The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
>>they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
>>will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
>>Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
>>the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs
>>.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
>>S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
>>Jews.
>>
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
>>a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
>>that would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with
>>Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
>>whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
>>great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
>>on the other hand.
>>
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
>>was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
>>the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
>>fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
>>the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
>>already been wiped out from the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
>>not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
>>the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
>>chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
>>quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
>>124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
>>Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
>>S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he
>>concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
>>of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
>>prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
>>negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation
>>in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
>>last minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one
>>overwhelming truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one
>>moment the good intention of good Becher'.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
>>the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
>>were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
>>there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
>>criminal. Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
>>affidavit given in favor of a war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements." 
>>
>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
>>unproved accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from
>>his Nazi 
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>> 
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June
>>1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
>>criminal libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an
>>appeal filed.
>>
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
>>such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
>>come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
>>institutions."(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the  name  of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
>>this point  Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
>>'fully rehabilitated'.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court - that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
>>take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
>>'fully rehabilitated'.
>>                        
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
>>two, found that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and
>>convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
>>'collaboration'.
>>
>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
>>that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner. They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
>>the end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
>>saying, 'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
>>tree'. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
>>witness about the Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in
>>Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a
>>Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
>>with force against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view
>>no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
>>news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
>>can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
>>result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
>>Jewish community.
>>
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
>>and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
>>that Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
>>scale...And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
>>very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
>>knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
>>save a few Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his
>>hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
>>their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
>>question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
>>a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
>>should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
>>awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
>>although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
>>many or should he disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
>>will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I
>>said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
>>President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
>>me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
>>demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>>
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
>>leadership both from a moral and public point of view...
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
>>extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
>>Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
>>gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
>>what was known to them and did not warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
>>Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
>>people in Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
>>exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did -
>>concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
>>Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
>>Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
>>have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
>>dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
>>judgements on the guilt of others....
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
>>ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
>>he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
>>of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
>>of the few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
>>accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
>>extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
>>result.'
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
>>the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
>>emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
>>had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
>>thousands would have been able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
>>money, bribery,etc. - and when this is the case and when one deals
>>with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
>>reject with complete certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency
>>of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
>>thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God? 
>>Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
>>to a claim of such good faith...
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
>>will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
>>as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
>>the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
>>rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
>>make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
>>his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
>>many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
>>escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
>>these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
>>proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
>>claim that Kastner had concealed the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
>>and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
>>working  smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional
>>proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
>>tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
>>occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
>>proof of  evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
>>great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
>>eyes...I couldn't base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
>>been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
>>of events it throws retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
>>have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
>>advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
>>to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
>>and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
>>on trial .
>>
>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the  Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
>>Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
>>eventually to Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
>>leadership in Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less
>>delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately
>>after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
>>'rehabilitating' him was delivered.
>>
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the  Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
>>'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the
>>murder trial).
>>
>>
>>sven88



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:24:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:00:51 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>>
>>>They haven't.
>>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>
>>>>David Maddison
>>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>>Harold.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, Mr_I@TIO>not.awww....
>>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>>woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>> 
>>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>>> peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>>
>>
>>>Shouldn't that be "Oingo Boingo"?
>>
>>>Doesn't Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of 
>>>"Be careful who you hate, because you'll end up being just like them".
>>
>>>They're behaving like Nazi's in Palestine (let's call it by it's real name
>>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn't one of the
>>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>>the Past AND the Future?...).
>>
>>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli's are secular and
>>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!.  WHO DON'T WORK.  WHO DON'T HAVE TO DO
>>>MILITARY SERVICE.  WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>>peace.
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 04:42:35 GMT, cartman@southpark.com (Eric Cartman)
>>wrote:
>>>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:28:39 GMT, management.dolitle@omcs.com.au
>>>(Scott Steel) wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:20:36 GMT, zsero@bigfoot.com (Zev Sero) wrote:
>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James) wrote:
>>
>>>>>The publication of a portion of the membership list of One Nation is
>>>>>in no way comparable to your Nazi heroes' making up of lists of Jews
>>>>>to murder.  Neither Mark Leibler nor anyone else involved in AIR has
>>>>>given the slightest indication that they might be prone to violence
>>>>>against One Nation members.
>>
>>>>Im sure they havent.
>>>>But they printed the List with the expectation of intimidating One
>>>>Nation members.This is not acceptable in a country with a right to
>>>>free political association.
>>
>>>>>  It's clear that the purpose of publishing
>>>>>the list was to shame these people who have lent a hand to that unworthy
>>>>>cause. 
>>
>>>>To "shame" these people?
>>>>Who  is Leibler to define whom needs "shaming"?
>>>>Since when did that little imp carry the collective conscience of
>>>>Australia?
>>
>>>Seems to be a preoccupation of the people of Jehovah.



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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:21:43 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:56:06, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>
>>Here  is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>
>>The Kastner Case
>>
>>                              
>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>
>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>are generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy'
>>about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for
>>money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated'
>>by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>>
>>                              The Accusations
>>
>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>
>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
>>Herald, he wrote:
>>
>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>
>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>silence.
>>
>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>>exterminations.
>>
>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>
>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
>>With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben
>>Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
>>
>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>
>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
>>operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
>>elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
>>negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
>>them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
>>Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
>>resisting deportation - and even keep order in the collection camps -
>>if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
>>Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
>>not too high for me.
>>
>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
>>case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
>>and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>
>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>
>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal 'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
>>helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
>>escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
>>or so Jews...That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>of  Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
>>prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
>>Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
>>the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>>                                The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court
>>of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence  in the false information that they were being transferred
>>to Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
>>mislead the Jews.
>>
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
>>overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
>>activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
>>leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
>>community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
>>Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
>>Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
>>The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
>>they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
>>will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
>>Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
>>the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs
>>.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
>>S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
>>Jews.
>>
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
>>a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
>>that would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with
>>Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
>>whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
>>great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
>>on the other hand.
>>
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
>>was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
>>the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
>>fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
>>the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
>>already been wiped out from the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
>>not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
>>the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
>>chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
>>quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
>>124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
>>Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
>>S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he
>>concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
>>of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
>>prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
>>negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation
>>in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
>>last minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one
>>overwhelming truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one
>>moment the good intention of good Becher'.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
>>the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
>>were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
>>there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
>>criminal. Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
>>affidavit given in favor of a war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements." 
>>
>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
>>unproved accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from
>>his Nazi 
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>> 
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June
>>1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
>>criminal libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an
>>appeal filed.
>>
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
>>such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
>>come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
>>institutions."(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the  name  of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
>>this point  Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
>>'fully rehabilitated'.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court - that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
>>take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
>>'fully rehabilitated'.
>>                        
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
>>two, found that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and
>>convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
>>'collaboration'.
>>
>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
>>that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner. They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
>>the end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
>>saying, 'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
>>tree'. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
>>witness about the Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in
>>Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a
>>Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
>>with force against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view
>>no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
>>news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
>>can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
>>result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
>>Jewish community.
>>
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
>>and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
>>that Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
>>scale...And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
>>very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
>>knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
>>save a few Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his
>>hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
>>their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
>>question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
>>a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
>>should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
>>awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
>>although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
>>many or should he disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
>>will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I
>>said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
>>President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
>>me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
>>demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>>
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
>>leadership both from a moral and public point of view...
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
>>extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
>>Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
>>gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
>>what was known to them and did not warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
>>Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
>>people in Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
>>exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did -
>>concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
>>Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
>>Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
>>have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
>>dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
>>judgements on the guilt of others....
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
>>ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
>>he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
>>of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
>>of the few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
>>accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
>>extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
>>result.'
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
>>the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
>>emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
>>had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
>>thousands would have been able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
>>money, bribery,etc. - and when this is the case and when one deals
>>with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
>>reject with complete certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency
>>of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
>>thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God? 
>>Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
>>to a claim of such good faith...
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
>>will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
>>as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
>>the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
>>rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
>>make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
>>his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
>>many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
>>escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
>>these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
>>proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
>>claim that Kastner had concealed the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
>>and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
>>working  smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional
>>proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
>>tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
>>occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
>>proof of  evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
>>great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
>>eyes...I couldn't base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
>>been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
>>of events it throws retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
>>have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
>>advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
>>to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
>>and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
>>on trial .
>>
>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the  Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
>>Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
>>eventually to Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
>>leadership in Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less
>>delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately
>>after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
>>'rehabilitating' him was delivered.
>>
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the  Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
>>'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the
>>murder trial).
>>
>>
>>sven88
>>>



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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:45:54 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control...
>
>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is...
>
>>>cheers,          PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. :-) 
>>
>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>means'.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven't.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?  
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.



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On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:26:09 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control...
>
>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is...
>
>>>cheers,          PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>Harold.
>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. :-) 
>
>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>
>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>means'.)
>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>
>>They haven't.
>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>
>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?  
>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>
>>>David Maddison
>
>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>>Harold.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, Mr_I@TIO>not.awww....
>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>
>>In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>>> 
>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>> peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>
>>
>>Shouldn't that be "Oingo Boingo"?
>>
>>Doesn't Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of 
>>"Be careful who you hate, because you'll end up being just like them".
>>
>>They're behaving like Nazi's in Palestine (let's call it by it's real name
>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn't one of the
>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>the Past AND the Future?...).
>>
>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli's are secular and
>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!.  WHO DON'T WORK.  WHO DON'T HAVE TO DO
>>MILITARY SERVICE.  WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>peace.
>>
>>And while we're here, Don't the cries of the UNIONISTS in Ireland, that
>>they need protection from CATHOLIC TERRORISM start to sound a bit hollow
>>now?  I think nearly every act of terrorism (inc. Murder) since the
>>referendum has been against Catholics.
>>
>>AAhhhhh........ Religion, even when it's the SAME GOD, there's still
>>enough difference to go out and KKKIIILLLLLL SSOMEONE, and feel good about
>>it.
>>
>>The Pope wears Orange stockings and suspenders.



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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:28:11 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>>Hitler's Jewish Army
>>>
>>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>>>speaking of World War Two.
>>>
>>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing what
>>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>>
>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>>'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf
>>>Hitler's knowledge and approval.
>>>
>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including
>>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to
>>>100,000 troops."
>>>
>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>>Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's
>>>Cross.
>>>
>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>>
>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish
>>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>>
>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew
>>>and who is an Aryan.''
>>>
>>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>>
>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>>
>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>>(kapos).
>>>
>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>
>>>Sources:
>>>
>>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>>
>>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>>
>>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:13:07 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 18:04:08 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Canadian Press report today, that this case is really making waves in
>>the Federal Court of Canada.
>>
>>The lawyer for George Harris, the businessman from Winnipeg who is
>>bringing the case against Revenue Canada, is reported as claiming that
>>the Bronfman case is threatening to corrupt public trust in the
>>Canadian tax system!!!
>>
>>The lawyer is claiming that Revenue Canada had a legal duty to apply
>>the tax, but screwed it up!!!
>>
>>No kidding!!!
>>
>>On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:53:45 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>
>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
>>>
>>>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
>>>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!
>>>
>>>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor general
>>>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>>>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>>>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!
>>>
>>>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>>>issue.
>>>
>>>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>>>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>>>administration of justice generally."
>>>
>>>You said it!!!



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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>wrote:
>
>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>Christian natives.
>
>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>humanity in Palestine.
>
>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>
>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>
>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>
>
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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:36:55 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:08:09 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:15:04 GMT, tonyh@whyalla.net.au (Tony Hancock)
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:51:30 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>>One Nation is an Australian issue and braindead Canadian usenet
>>sock-puppet fetshists like you should just mind your own bloody
>>business,
>
>>Sure Liebler is a f*ckwit,
>>Tony Hancock
>
>On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>
>>>They haven't.
>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>
>>>>David Maddison
>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>>>Harold.
>



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:13:00 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:26:53 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:42:09 +0930, Seppo Renfors
>> wrote:
>>>Scott Balson wrote:
>>>> yvonne cooke wrote:
>>
>>>> > If "One Nation" is so worthy, what is wrong with people being members? Would
>>>> > not such a person as the woman (now deceased) named on his web page and her
>>>> > family have been proud of her membership?
>> 
>>>> OK then how would YOU and the MEDIA react if I published the Australia/Israel
>>>> Review subscription list?
>>
>>>THEY would laugh at you. Try it an see I dare you to!
>>
>>>> I would be labelled anti-semitic and a danger to society, but the politically
>>>> correct community niches (such as some zionists) are untouchable. Sounds like
>>>> the Indian caste system to me AND IT STINKS!
>>
>>>> > If publication was so bad, why has the web page owner named her on his web
>>>> > page, spreading confidential membership information so much further?
>> 
>>>> She is with friends on our web site she is with bigoted little arseholes when
>>>> she is referred to in that trashy magazine.
>>
>>>> > What is more likely to concern the executive of ON is that members of the
>>>> > reported totalitarian structure now know who other members are.
>>>> > The author of the web page has joined tabloid print and TV in doing more
>>>> > harm than the original article with its limited readership ever would have.
>>
>>
>>>> Bullshit - you are a complete arsehole aren't you.
>>
>>>The PHONey logic, if confronted with the TRUTH, resort to
>>>abuse, standard PHONey policy!
>>
>>>> The problem facing these zionist publishers is that they are without ethics by
>>>> publishing names and suburbs and if a One Nation member is firebombed because of
>>>> their action they will face bankruptcy through legal claims against them.
>>
>>



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:24:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:00:51 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:

>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>>
>>>They haven't.
>>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>
>>>>David Maddison
>>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>>Harold.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, Mr_I@TIO>not.awww....
>>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>>woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>> 
>>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>>> peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>>
>>
>>>Shouldn't that be "Oingo Boingo"?
>>
>>>Doesn't Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of 
>>>"Be careful who you hate, because you'll end up being just like them".
>>
>>>They're behaving like Nazi's in Palestine (let's call it by it's real name
>>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn't one of the
>>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>>the Past AND the Future?...).
>>
>>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli's are secular and
>>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!.  WHO DON'T WORK.  WHO DON'T HAVE TO DO
>>>MILITARY SERVICE.  WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>>peace.
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 04:42:35 GMT, cartman@southpark.com (Eric Cartman)
>>wrote:
>>>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:28:39 GMT, management.dolitle@omcs.com.au
>>>(Scott Steel) wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:20:36 GMT, zsero@bigfoot.com (Zev Sero) wrote:
>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James) wrote:
>>
>>>>>The publication of a portion of the membership list of One Nation is
>>>>>in no way comparable to your Nazi heroes' making up of lists of Jews
>>>>>to murder.  Neither Mark Leibler nor anyone else involved in AIR has
>>>>>given the slightest indication that they might be prone to violence
>>>>>against One Nation members.
>>
>>>>Im sure they havent.
>>>>But they printed the List with the expectation of intimidating One
>>>>Nation members.This is not acceptable in a country with a right to
>>>>free political association.
>>
>>>>>  It's clear that the purpose of publishing
>>>>>the list was to shame these people who have lent a hand to that unworthy
>>>>>cause. 
>>
>>>>To "shame" these people?
>>>>Who  is Leibler to define whom needs "shaming"?
>>>>Since when did that little imp carry the collective conscience of
>>>>Australia?
>>
>>>Seems to be a preoccupation of the people of Jehovah.



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:45:33 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:40:06 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>>wrote:

>>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>>Christian natives.
>>>
>>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>>humanity in Palestine.
>>>
>>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>>
>>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>>
>>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>>
>>>
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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:45:03 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:40:41 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:24:48 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>
>>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>>
>>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>>
>>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>>
>>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>>murder of Christ?
>>>
>>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>>want to generate more?
>>>
>>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>>
>>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>>
>>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>>
>>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>>
>>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>>where your mouth is...
>>>
>>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>>
>>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>>
>>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>>the year 2000!!!



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On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:58:52 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 19:18:07 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>In article <35d8e619.638387@news.nucleus.com>,  klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>> Do you not feel that even these filthy rich Jews should pay their
>>> taxes, as do other honest people??
>
>>> Why should these rich Jews not have to pay their taxes, becuase they
>>> are Jews??
>
>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:02:23 GMT, sibernot@bigfoot.com (E. Barry
>Bruyea) wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:59:28 -0600, "Barry S. Marjanovich"
>> wrote:
>
>>>The Calgary Herald
>>>July 9, 1998
>
>>>A Revenue Canada decision to let a family move more than $2 billion out of
>>>Canada tax free was fundamentally wrong and threatens to corrupt public
>>>trust in the system, a Federal Court judge heard Wednesday.
>
>>>"Revenue Canada had a legal duty to apply the tax," lawyer Arne Peltz told
>>>Justice Francis Muldoon.
>
>>>"It was not only an oops, they missed the boat altogether," Peltz said.
>
>>>"They screwed it up."
>
>>>Peltz is representing George Harris, a 53-year-old office manager who took
>>>on the federal tax collectors after he found out in 1996 that the family
>>>was allowed to transfer assets of a $2.2-billion trust to the United
>>>States without paying taxes.
>
>>>The family members haven't been named under confidentiality rules, but
>>>published reports have identified them as the Bronfmans [the richest
>>>family in Canada] who control the Montreal-based Seagram Co. distilling
>>>and entertainment empire.
>
>>>Throughout the controversy, there has never been any suggestion the family
>>>tried to evade tax.
>
>>>Harris is appealing a Federal Court decision last year saying he didn't
>>>have the right to question the Revenue Canada decision because he doesn't
>>>have a personal stake in the matter.
>
>>>But Harris has argued the matter is one of simple fairness for all.
>
>>>He said all taxpayers suffer when Revenue Canada fails to collect taxes,
>>>estimated at $700 million in this case.
>
>>>Peltz argued Wednesday there should be a process to review such decisions,
>>>adding a similar transfer-trust case in 1985 involving a different party
>>>required tax to be paid.
>
>>>ccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
>
>> one wonders
>>what his purpose was in posting the above, as it is very old news 
>
>
>How can you lie that it is old news, when the case is presently before
>a PUBLIC COURT in Canada??
>
>Even the news report is last week's news, not last year, idiot!!!
>
>Do you not feel that even these filthy rich Jews should pay their
>taxes, as do other honest people??
>
>Why should these rich Jews not have to pay their taxes, becuase they
>are Jews??



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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:39:08 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:53:01 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:01:43 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:32:34 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:53:08 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>>>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>>>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>>>
>>>They haven't.
>>>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>>>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>>
>>>>David Maddison
>>>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>>
>>>Harold.
>-88-



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:13:00 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:26:53 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:42:09 +0930, Seppo Renfors
>> wrote:
>>>Scott Balson wrote:
>>>> yvonne cooke wrote:
>>
>>>> > If "One Nation" is so worthy, what is wrong with people being members? Would
>>>> > not such a person as the woman (now deceased) named on his web page and her
>>>> > family have been proud of her membership?
>> 
>>>> OK then how would YOU and the MEDIA react if I published the Australia/Israel
>>>> Review subscription list?
>>
>>>THEY would laugh at you. Try it an see I dare you to!
>>
>>>> I would be labelled anti-semitic and a danger to society, but the politically
>>>> correct community niches (such as some zionists) are untouchable. Sounds like
>>>> the Indian caste system to me AND IT STINKS!
>>
>>>> > If publication was so bad, why has the web page owner named her on his web
>>>> > page, spreading confidential membership information so much further?
>> 
>>>> She is with friends on our web site she is with bigoted little arseholes when
>>>> she is referred to in that trashy magazine.
>>
>>>> > What is more likely to concern the executive of ON is that members of the
>>>> > reported totalitarian structure now know who other members are.
>>>> > The author of the web page has joined tabloid print and TV in doing more
>>>> > harm than the original article with its limited readership ever would have.
>>
>>
>>>> Bullshit - you are a complete arsehole aren't you.
>>
>>>The PHONey logic, if confronted with the TRUTH, resort to
>>>abuse, standard PHONey policy!
>>
>>>> The problem facing these zionist publishers is that they are without ethics by
>>>> publishing names and suburbs and if a One Nation member is firebombed because of
>>>> their action they will face bankruptcy through legal claims against them.
>>
>>



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:24:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 03:00:51 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>>
>>>They haven't.
>>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>
>>>>David Maddison
>>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>>Harold.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, Mr_I@TIO>not.awww....
>>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>>woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>> 
>>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>>> peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>>
>>
>>>Shouldn't that be "Oingo Boingo"?
>>
>>>Doesn't Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of 
>>>"Be careful who you hate, because you'll end up being just like them".
>>
>>>They're behaving like Nazi's in Palestine (let's call it by it's real name
>>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn't one of the
>>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>>the Past AND the Future?...).
>>
>>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli's are secular and
>>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!.  WHO DON'T WORK.  WHO DON'T HAVE TO DO
>>>MILITARY SERVICE.  WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>>peace.
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 04:42:35 GMT, cartman@southpark.com (Eric Cartman)
>>wrote:
>>>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:28:39 GMT, management.dolitle@omcs.com.au
>>>(Scott Steel) wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:20:36 GMT, zsero@bigfoot.com (Zev Sero) wrote:
>>>>>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James) wrote:
>>
>>>>>The publication of a portion of the membership list of One Nation is
>>>>>in no way comparable to your Nazi heroes' making up of lists of Jews
>>>>>to murder.  Neither Mark Leibler nor anyone else involved in AIR has
>>>>>given the slightest indication that they might be prone to violence
>>>>>against One Nation members.
>>
>>>>Im sure they havent.
>>>>But they printed the List with the expectation of intimidating One
>>>>Nation members.This is not acceptable in a country with a right to
>>>>free political association.
>>
>>>>>  It's clear that the purpose of publishing
>>>>>the list was to shame these people who have lent a hand to that unworthy
>>>>>cause. 
>>
>>>>To "shame" these people?
>>>>Who  is Leibler to define whom needs "shaming"?
>>>>Since when did that little imp carry the collective conscience of
>>>>Australia?
>>
>>>Seems to be a preoccupation of the people of Jehovah.



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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:20:52 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>On 12 Oct 1998 20:56:39 GMT, (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:
>
>>Absolutely right, Mr. Grosvenor - very good advice!
>
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:59:56 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>>
>>>They haven't.
>>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>
>>>>David Maddison
>>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>>Harold.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, Mr_I@TIO>not.awww....
>>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>>woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>>
>>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>>>> 
>>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>>> peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>>
>>>
>>>Shouldn't that be "Oingo Boingo"?
>>>
>>>Doesn't Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of 
>>>"Be careful who you hate, because you'll end up being just like them".
>>>
>>>They're behaving like Nazi's in Palestine (let's call it by it's real name
>>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn't one of the
>>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>>the Past AND the Future?...).
>>>
>>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>>
>>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli's are secular and
>>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!.  WHO DON'T WORK.  WHO DON'T HAVE TO DO
>>>MILITARY SERVICE.  WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>>peace.
>>>
>>>And while we're here, Don't the cries of the UNIONISTS in Ireland, that
>>>they need protection from CATHOLIC TERRORISM start to sound a bit hollow
>>>now?  I think nearly every act of terrorism (inc. Murder) since the
>>>referendum has been against Catholics.
>>>
>>>AAhhhhh........ Religion, even when it's the SAME GOD, there's still
>>>enough difference to go out and KKKIIILLLLLL SSOMEONE, and feel good about
>>>it.
>>>
>>>The Pope wears Orange stockings and suspenders.



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On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:45:54 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control...
>
>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is...
>
>>>cheers,          PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>Harold.
>>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. :-) 
>>
>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>>
>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>means'.)
>>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>>
>>They haven't.
>>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>
>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?  
>>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>
>>>David Maddison
>>
>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>Harold.



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On Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:26:09 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>
>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>
>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>murder of Christ?
>
>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>want to generate more?
>
>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>
>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>in many countries, trying to take control...
>
>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>
>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>
>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>where your mouth is...
>
>>>cheers,          PJ
>
>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>the year 2000!!!
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>wrote:
>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>Harold.
>
>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>probably have given you a false impression
>>however. :-) 
>
>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>
>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>indeed.
>
>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>means'.)
>
>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>published it,
>
>>They haven't.
>
>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>
>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>Australian voters?  
>
>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>
>>>David Maddison
>
>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>
>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>
>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>
>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>>Harold.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, Mr_I@TIO>not.awww....
>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>
>>In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>>> 
>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>> peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>
>>
>>Shouldn't that be "Oingo Boingo"?
>>
>>Doesn't Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of 
>>"Be careful who you hate, because you'll end up being just like them".
>>
>>They're behaving like Nazi's in Palestine (let's call it by it's real name
>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn't one of the
>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>the Past AND the Future?...).
>>
>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>
>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli's are secular and
>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!.  WHO DON'T WORK.  WHO DON'T HAVE TO DO
>>MILITARY SERVICE.  WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>peace.
>>
>>And while we're here, Don't the cries of the UNIONISTS in Ireland, that
>>they need protection from CATHOLIC TERRORISM start to sound a bit hollow
>>now?  I think nearly every act of terrorism (inc. Murder) since the
>>referendum has been against Catholics.
>>
>>AAhhhhh........ Religion, even when it's the SAME GOD, there's still
>>enough difference to go out and KKKIIILLLLLL SSOMEONE, and feel good about
>>it.
>>
>>The Pope wears Orange stockings and suspenders.



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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>wrote:
>
>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>Christian natives.
>
>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>humanity in Palestine.
>
>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>
>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>
>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>
>
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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:36:55 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:08:09 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:15:04 GMT, tonyh@whyalla.net.au (Tony Hancock)
>wrote:
>>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:51:30 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>>>On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>
>>One Nation is an Australian issue and braindead Canadian usenet
>>sock-puppet fetshists like you should just mind your own bloody
>>business,
>
>>Sure Liebler is a f*ckwit,
>>Tony Hancock
>
>On Sun, 16 Aug 1998 23:01:23 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
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>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>
>>>They haven't.
>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>
>>>>David Maddison
>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>
>>>Harold.
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On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:03:50 +1000, "yvonne cooke"
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>Scott Balson wrote in message <35A4744D.7652D3F0@gwb.com.au>...

>>The Australia/Israel Review is a sick monster basking in the guilt of
>>history.
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>>This zionist publication should be condemned by all Australians for what
>>it is... a sick joke representing the drive for globalisation and
>>well-heeled members of ***its*** elite racist community.
>>
>>David Greason, one of the editors, is a self-proclaimed fascist and
>>total asshole. The rest of the loonies at this magazine should go and
>>get themselves a real life.
>>
>>Amongst the One Nation donors "named" in their latest magazine was a
>>wonderful Queensland woman who died tragically earlier this year in a
>>light plane accident. Good move sickos - imagine if the shoe was on the
>>other foot - One Nation would be labelled everything from "racist" to
>>"deranged".
>
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>Interesting response from this particular writer - a web page owner who has
>published without permission photos and information about people whom he
>personally judges "undesirable".
>The quote above comprises negative generalising judgmental attacks
>on a community, when the fortnightly periodical concerned is published by
>a private organisation, privately funded and apparently not representative
>of an entire community of any kind.
>While the news of unauthorized publication of membership of a political
>group concerns most people, this concern has more to do with issues of
>privacy and debate on privacy legislation than the prejudice displayed
>above.
>If "One Nation" is so worthy, what is wrong with people being members? Would
>not such a person as the woman (now deceased) named on his web page and her
>family have been proud of her membership?
>If publication was so bad, why has the web page owner named her on his web
>page, spreading confidential membership information so much further?
>What is more likely to concern the executive of ON is that members of the
>reported totalitarian structure now know who other members are.
>The author of the web page has joined tabloid print and TV in doing more
>harm than the original article with its limited readership ever would have.
>He has shown up the incompetence of the membership registrar who should have
>transferred the name of the deceased person from the register to the past
>members' record with a Vale note, and advised holders of copies of
>membership registers immediately after the event.
>Then you have responses from other members of One Nation.
>Ettridge himself is reported as wondering about the Charter of
>Human Rights - of the United Nations - Australia's participation in which
>One Nation would like to have abolished.
>A South Australian spokesperson murmurs something about
>anti-discrimination laws - laws that One Nation wants abolished.
>Another ON member talks about referring the matter to the HREOC, a
>body they want abolished.
>Once you "know" something, you cannot "unknow" it or disclaim your
>knowledge. The problem facing the publisher was that he knew something he
>believed he had the responsibility to tell others. He believed that members
>of a political group should be made aware of the political views held by
>certain other members.
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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:13:00 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:26:53 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:42:09 +0930, Seppo Renfors
>> wrote:
>>>Scott Balson wrote:
>>>> yvonne cooke wrote:
>>
>>>> > If "One Nation" is so worthy, what is wrong with people being members? Would
>>>> > not such a person as the woman (now deceased) named on his web page and her
>>>> > family have been proud of her membership?
>> 
>>>> OK then how would YOU and the MEDIA react if I published the Australia/Israel
>>>> Review subscription list?
>>
>>>THEY would laugh at you. Try it an see I dare you to!
>>
>>>> I would be labelled anti-semitic and a danger to society, but the politically
>>>> correct community niches (such as some zionists) are untouchable. Sounds like
>>>> the Indian caste system to me AND IT STINKS!
>>
>>>> > If publication was so bad, why has the web page owner named her on his web
>>>> > page, spreading confidential membership information so much further?
>> 
>>>> She is with friends on our web site she is with bigoted little arseholes when
>>>> she is referred to in that trashy magazine.
>>
>>>> > What is more likely to concern the executive of ON is that members of the
>>>> > reported totalitarian structure now know who other members are.
>>>> > The author of the web page has joined tabloid print and TV in doing more
>>>> > harm than the original article with its limited readership ever would have.
>>
>>
>>>> Bullshit - you are a complete arsehole aren't you.
>>
>>>The PHONey logic, if confronted with the TRUTH, resort to
>>>abuse, standard PHONey policy!
>>
>>>> The problem facing these zionist publishers is that they are without ethics by
>>>> publishing names and suburbs and if a One Nation member is firebombed because of
>>>> their action they will face bankruptcy through legal claims against them.
>>
>>



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On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:42:23 +0930, Tony Hancock
 wrote:

>Peter Lucas wrote:
>> 
>> In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>> woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>
>[snip]
>> **The 'religionist' Australia Israel Review
>> **obviously has not been influenced by
>> **'Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and
>> **publishing their 'list' of One Nation members, but
>> **by the likes of Adolf Hitler!  The neo-nazi style
>> **acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as
>> **distinct from a likely majority of other Jews,
>> 
>> I must admit, I was a bit shocked that they did it. I had an instant
>> feeling of hatred toward all Jews, but upon reflection, realised that it
>> was only a small bunch of stupid mindless morons who have done this. They
>> have obviously been sucked into this 'ON are nazis' bullshit. If they have
>> then they are as stupid as the other sheeple and deserve my utter contempt.
>> Their act of purile childishness has not changed my feelings toward the
>> true Jews, as I know they would not lower themselves to such a despicable
>> act.
>
>The jewish (M)ultiCulturalists have demonstrated the pure evil that is
>(M)ultiCulturalism. The jews have been milking sympathy from the
>holocaust for all they can get. It has been 50 years later and it is
>time the Jewish Leaders set an example of tolerance rather than exercise
>more of the attitude that got their (M)ultiCultural stereotypical group
>into trouble in the first place.
>
>A public apology will suffice.
>
>> **need to have a class action taken out against them
>> **for the crime (among others) of 'common assault'.
>> 
>> Hmmmm, I wonder if that is possible. If so, that would give me an avenue to
>> consider a personal action against a certain person. I'll have to look into
>> that.
>> 
>> Once again, anyone low enough to do such an act is beyond any contempt that
>> society can muster. It is basically giving any weirdo or whacko out there
>> an open invitation to do whatever they want.
>
>Too right. I am seriously considering exercising my right to keep and
>bear arms for self defence. There's too many immigrant SCUM in this
>country....and they don't come from Asia.
>
>Cheers
>Tony Hancock
>
>Free Palestine
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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:35:33 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:
>>>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James)
>>>wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian 
>>>>wrote:
>>>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian 
>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
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>>>>>> >> I have a question:
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>>>>>> >[snip]
>>>>*******************************************************************************************
>>>>(PJ)
>>
>>>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of "Genocide" against
>>>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>>
>>>>(BR)
>>>>>	Essentially, yes, I was.   I made and still do make the point 
>>>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same 
>>>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and 
>>>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>>
>>>Come to think of it, last year there was a major news story, detailing
>>>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!!
>>
>>>article follows
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>>>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org  said
>>>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>>>>In article <353fd933.625226@news.datanet.ab.ca>, torquemada@inquisition.org
>>>>>writes:
>>
>>>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>>
>>>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>>
>>>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>>
>>>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>>
>>>Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
>>>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>>>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>>>weren't illegal.
>>
>>>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>>>reports to prove this!!!
>>
>>>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 
>>
>>>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>>>other references  below, cited.
>>
>>>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>>
>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>>
>>>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:
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>>>>>  You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>>>an open liar?
>>>>>                               irgun43
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>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>>>>> >Yesss!
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>>>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>>
>>>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>>
>>>>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>>
>>>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>>
>>>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:
>>
>>>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>>
>>>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>>
>>>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>>
>>>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>>
>>>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>>
>>>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>>
>>>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>>>> deportations."]
>>
>>>                         ____________________________
>>
>>>>>> Or how about this?
>>
>>>>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army
>>
>>>>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>
>>>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>>>> knowledge and approval.
>>
>>>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>>
>>>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>>
>>>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>>
>>>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>
>>>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>
>>>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>>>> Aryan.''
>>
>>>>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>
>>>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>>
>>>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>> 
>>>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>
>>>>>> Sources:
>>
>>>>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>
>>>>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>
>>>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>>
>>>>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>>
>>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
>>
>>>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>>>> by Reuters
>>
>>>>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>> 
>>>>>> See also:
>>>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>>
>>>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>>
>>>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>>>> served in Nazi army
>>
>>>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>>>> Los Angeles Times
>>
>>>>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>>>> of Holocaust history.
>>
>>>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>>
>>>>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>>>> whole story.]
>>
>>>>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>>
>>>>Quite.      Glad we can agree on something.
>>
>>>>[snip]
>>
>>>>****************************************************************************************
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!



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On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:00:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>Canadian Press, and the prestigious national TV program W5,yesterday
>3rd November 1998,  both have confirmed that Israel's killer group
>MOSSAD is still using Canadian passports for the Mossad terrorists.


>What is even more hypocritical, is that the present communist
>government of Canada, supports the criminal activities of the zionist
>state of Israel and the MOSSAD CRIMINALS, with Canadian taxpayer
>money!!
>
>
>The media now report that Canada has one of its spies resident in
>Israel, as permanent liaison with the MOSSAD terrorists!!!
>
>
>On 12 Oct 1997 16:22:24 GMT, intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:
>
>>Help the assassins, heck no !
>
>>THEY HAVE ALL BEEN ACCEPTED INTO CANADA AS REFUGEES.
>
>>We love all the vermin of the world !  
>
>>Especially criminals !!!
>
>Such as the JEW Mafia from Russia, dope dealers from Viet Nam, faggots
>spreading AIDS from Poland, and white collar criminals from Israel,
>plus lots of other bogus refugees!!!



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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:43:07 -0400, Fishhawk 
wrote:
>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:45:43 -0500, Sandor Kerekes 
>> wrote:

>> That he did not like the TRUTH about the cursed Christkillers on
>> Internet.....

>> >sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 05:16:58 +1100, "AussiCro" 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> DO  YOU SUPPORT THE ANTI-CHRISTIAN ACTIONS OF THE CURSED CHRISTKILLERS
>> >> - THE JEWS??

Perhaps you should learn to READ, and then read the following:

On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:45:43 -0500, Sandor Kerekes 
wrote:

That he did not like the TRUTH about the cursed Christkillers on
Internet.....


>sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 05:16:58 +1100, "AussiCro" 
>> wrote:

>> HOW CAN ONE DENY THE TRUTH, WHICH HAPPENED ONLY LAST YEAR AND WAS
>> PUBLICISED WORLDWIDE?
>>
>> DO  YOU SUPPORT THE ANTI-CHRISTIAN ACTIONS OF THE CURSED CHRISTKILLERS
>> - THE JEWS??
>>
>> >sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote in message
>> >>>On Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:00:33 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>> >>>wrote:

>> >>>>OyVay & NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just do not like for the world to know how
>> >>>>rotten, and anti-Christian the cursed JEWS really are!!!
>>
>> >>>>In Canada, the damned JEWS even had the Cross removed from the
>> >>>>cenotaph, for the Remembrance Day ceremonies!!
>>
>> >>>>Article attached.
>>
>> >>>>There has been worldwide revulsion, and complaints about the damned
>> >>>>JEWS for doing this.
>>
>> >>>>On 26 Nov 1997 04:07:29 GMT, jbellingxx@aol.com (Jbellingxx) wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>Why does Nizkor list ISP's on their Web-site for everyone who disagrees
>> >with
>> >>>>>their opinions?  Why do they do that?  Why do they list instructions on
>> >how to
>> >>>>>mail bomb people who disagree with their opinions-these champions of
>> >social
>> >>>>>justice and free speech?  Sing to "Happy days are here again:
>>
>> >>>>>McCarthy Days are here again
>> >>>>>The Nizkooks strike but you won't know when
>> >>>>>get a mail bomb sent from yer old pal Ken
>> >>>>>Nizkook days are here again
>>
>> >>>>>They'll publicize your ISP's
>> >>>>>They'd like to have you on your knees
>> >>>>>They're busier than a nest of bees
>> >>>>>Nizkook days are here again
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>protect your precious CD rom
>> >>>>>Watch out before you are mail bombed
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>They love to put in false complaints
>> >>>>>Beware of lies the Nizkook paints
>> >>>>>Within this group one will find no saints
>> >>>>>Nizkook days are here again....
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Ach!  I'm a song writer!  Move over, Irving Berlin!
>> >>>>>Ich bin noch ein Berliner!


>> >>>In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>> >>>Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.

>> >>>Len Dolgoy, past president of the Jewish Federation of Edmonton, and
>> >>>also the regional representative on the Canadian Jewish Congress,  had
>> >>>arranged for the removal of the Cross at the Remembrance day
>> >>>celebrations.
>>
>> >>>The Strathcona Legion, representing victims and their families fielded
>> >>>many complaints, particularly from war widows and others who had lost
>> >>>family members.
>>
>> >>>Mind you, the same JEWS do not mind that they will be having a 25 foot
>> >>>scrap iron menorah cluttering up the lawn in front of the provincial
>> >>>Parliament Buildings, to supposedly celebrate the JEW holiday of
>> >>>Hannukah!!!!
>>
>> >>>It seems that the JEWs can have their religious symbol in front of the
>> >>>public, but the Cross, representing the millions of Christians who
>> >>>died, is not to be permitted!!!!
>>
>> sven 88




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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:51:39 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:45:28 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Is this part of the retaliation of Cuba, for being swindled out of $12
>>millions regarding Confed Life, plus the theft by Canada Post Managers
>>of a sack full of computer programs??
>>
>>
>>On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:09:50 -0800, Peter Aspinall
>> wrote:
>
>>>yara4609@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/
>>>> 
>>>> November 13, 1998
>>>> 
>>>> Mystery shrouds slain DND worker
>>>> 
>>>> Body unidentified in Cuban morgue for 7 months
>>>> By BRAD HUNTER -- Ottawa Sun
>>>> 
>>>>  A Department of National Defence employee was gunned down in Cuba months
>>>> ago, but his body was only identified this week.
>
>
>In view of the fact that Canada supplies Canadian passports to the
>MOSSAD for their murderers, one must wonder whether the so-called
>Canadian Defence staffer was really working for Canada, the CIA, or
>Israeli Mossad.



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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:17:20 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 05:38:17 GMT, nails@pacific.net.SPAMMERSDIE.sg
>>(Ken!!!) wrote:
>>>there are idiot jews and there are idiot anti-jews...
>>>
>>>what is scary is the number if idiots willing to listen to these 2
>>>factions of idiots and promote violence...
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:11:56 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>>Those who wish to support the Christkillers, the cursed JEWS, also
>>>>wish to rewrite history.
>>
>>>>They do not want the present survivors around the world to remember
>>>>that 100 million have been killed in the last 80 years by the JEW-led
>>>>communists!! This is well documented in the recently released book in
>>>>France.
>>
>>Quite apart from the more than 30 million people massacred by the
>>JEW-led soviets in the 1930's in the Ukraine.
>
>
>From someone@somewhere.com Thu Nov 13 07:29:56 1997
>
>Subject: OyVay Admits JEW COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>
>
>The key reason OyVay and NAZIKOR/NIZKOR refuse to discuss the 66
>Questions about the HOLOHOAX, is because they must hide the truth
>about the more than 100 MILLIONS the JEW-led communists have murdered,
>in less than 80 years!!!!
>
>
>On 12 Nov 1997 01:51:13 GMT, rwhita8200@aol.com (RWhita8200) wrote:
>
>>>Subject: COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>>>From: alangrist@aol.com (ALAN GRIST)
>>>Date: Mon, Nov 10, 1997 18:15 EST
>
>>>French writers row over "communism killed l00m" claim
>>>            FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN PARIS
>
>>>A BOOK by a team of French historians,  described  as  the
>>>first global accounting of the victims of communism, has
>>>estimated that in this century Communist dictators, regimes
>>>and  movements  have been responsible for the deaths of
>>>up to 100 million people.
>
>>> The 850-page Black Book of Communism - Crimes, Terror  
>>>and  Repression,  by  11 senior French researchers and
>>>published  to  coincide  with yesterday's 80th anniversary
>>>of the Bolshevik Revolution, has triggered a fresh ideologi-
>>>cal battle.
>
>>>The writers have come up with  a  final  estimate  that
>>>communism claimed about 65 million  lives  in  China,  20
>>>million in the Soviet Union, two million in Cambodia, two
>>>million in North Korea,  1.7 Million in Africa, one million
>>>in  Vietnam,  one million in Eastern Europe and 150,000 in
>>>South America. 
>
>>>In a polemical introduction, Stephane Courtois, the chief
>>>editor and co-ordinator of the project,  argued  that  mass 
>>>murder and terror have been central characteristics of com-
>>>munism. "The facts are stubborn," he writes. "They show that 
>>>the Communist regimes committed crimes against   about  100  million
>>>people, compared to about 25 million for the Nazis."   
>>> Some of M Courtois's fellow authors  however, have taken
>>>issue  both  with his  highly charged conclusions and with
>
>>   But there's no MONEY in these victims of Communism, so who cares?
>>
>>Bob Whitaker
>
>
>And do not ever FORGET, that the communists were mainly damn JEWS!!!!
>
>



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:20:20 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>>On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:08:00 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>>>>On Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:04:57 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>>>>>On Mon, 04 May 1998 06:53:14 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>>>>>Slepokura) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Who lied about Demjanjuk?
>>>>>
>>>>>>Criticism of Jewish groups costs judge Supreme Court appointment 
>>>>>
>>>>>>by Yossi Melman
>>>>>
>>>>>>[Reprinted in *Ukrainian News* (Edmonton, Alberta) in its April 7, 1998
>>>>>>issue from the Israeli daily *Ha'aretz* November 14, 1997 issue.] 
>>>>>
>>>>>>**If it were not for the Demjanjuk affair, Gilbert Merritt would probably
>>>>>>be a U.S. Supreme Court Justice. Yossi Melman traces the career of the
>>>>>>judge who ruled in 1985 that John Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible,
>>>>>>and ordered his extradition to Israel.**
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Aside from John Demjanjuk, who endured a tortuous eight years of legal
>>>>>>proceedings that nearly led him to the hangman's noose, and his close
>>>>>>family
>>>>>>members, the most prominent victim of the Demjanjuk case was Gilbert
>>>>>>Merritt. He is the federal judge who in April 1985 upheld the ruling -
>>>>>>years later proven to be incorrect - that Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible,
>>>>>>the notorious, sadistic guard who operated the gas chamber at the
>>>>>>Treblinka death camp in Poland, and ordered Demjanjuk's extradition to
>>>>>>Israel. 
>>>>>
>>>>>>At the time, the rulings by Judge Merritt were acclaimed by major Jewish
>>>>>>organizations in the United States. However, after the Israeli Supreme
>>>>>>Court
>>>>>>found Demjanjuk innocent of the charges against him in 1993, Judge Merritt
>>>>>>expressed remorse for his erronneous decisions. He also sharply criticized
>>>>>>the Jewish organizations. His expression of regret and critical remarks
>>>>>>ended up costing Merritt the highest position that an American jurist can
>>>>>>hope to reach.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Before Demjanjuk, Merritt's star had shone bright. He had extensive
>>>>>>experience and a sterling reputation, and was a Democrat with a liberal
>>>>>>world view. Yet, despite his prodigious judicial and civic skills, Merritt
>>>>>>was never offered the sought-after appointment. His friends, including
>>>>>>Judge George Paine of the
>>>>>>Federal Bankruptcy Court in Nashville, explain that Jewish organizations,
>>>>>>and primarily B'nai Brith, the Anti-Defamation League, the World Jewish
>>>>>>Congress and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, carried out a lobbying campaign
>>>>>>in Congress and the White House against his elevation. They hinted that
>>>>>>Merritt was anti-Semitic and was not suited to the position of Supreme
>>>>>>Court Justice. President Bill Clinton buckled under the pressure of the
>>>>>>Jewish lobby and opted to appoint Ruth Ginsburg to the post four years
>>>>>>ago. 
>>>>>
>>>>>>I met Gilbert Merritt, now 61, two weeks ago in his office in Nashville,
>>>>>>Tennessee. In spite of his disappointment, he is not bitter. "I am just a
>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>more sober," he says. What provoked the Jewish reaction was Merritt's
>>>>>>statements denouncing the American Department of Justice, the Israeli
>>>>>>Foreign Ministry and the Jewish organizations, all of whom had insisted
>>>>>>that John Demjanjuk was Ivan the Terrible. Today, Merritt feels that what
>>>>>>began in the early 1980s as an inquiry by the Justice Department's Office
>>>>>>of Special Investigations (OSI) eventually snowballed into a conspiracy
>>>>>>against Demjanjuk.
>>>>>
>>>>>>According to Merritt and others familiar with the affair, the OSI, which
>>>>>>was set up to bring [Nazi] war criminals living in the United States to
>>>>>>justice, was at the time subjected to heavy pressure by Congress and
>>>>>>senior Justice Department officials. The office had been criticized as
>>>>>>being inefficient and
>>>>>>unable to fulfill its tasks. OSI directors were told in no uncertain terms
>>>>>>to "deliver the goods": either expose Nazi war criminals and collaborators
>>>>>>who had found refuge in America, or lose some or even all its budget. This
>>>>>>was the background for the accelerated investigation against John
>>>>>>Demjanjuk, an American citizen of Ukrainian descent who lived in a suburb
>>>>>>of Cleveland, Ohio. The investigation showed that after World War II
>>>>>>Demjanjuk had entered the United
>>>>>>States on false grounds, having failed to reveal the truth about his past
>>>>>>on the immigration questionnaires. Based on that, American authorities
>>>>>>stripped him of his citizenship. Simultaneously, Jewish organizations and
>>>>>>the OSI began to place heavy pressure on the Israeli government - through
>>>>>>Ephraim Zuroff, the OSI representative in Israel at the time, who is now
>>>>>>director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem - to request Demjanjuk's
>>>>>>extradition to Israel. The national unity government of Shimon Peres was
>>>>>>not delighted at the prospect, but the pressure finally paid off and
>>>>>>Justice Minister Moshe Nissim filed for the extradition of John Demjanjuk.
>>>>>
>>>>>>The Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals met in Cincinnati to hear the
>>>>>>petition. Judge Merritt headed the panel. Representatives of the OSI and
>>>>>>the Justice Department introduced documents apparently indicating that
>>>>>>Demjanjuk was in fact Ivan the Terrible from Treblinka. Judge Merritt and
>>>>>>his colleagues were convinced, and in April 1985 the court ruled for
>>>>>>Demjanjuk's extradition.
>>>>>>Demjanjuk was brought to Israel, found guilty of the crimes of which he
>>>>>>was accused in the Jerusalem District court, but in 1993 was cleared on
>>>>>>appeal by the Supreme Court of the charges against him. 
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Today we know," says Merritt, "that they - the OSI, the prosecution in
>>>>>>the case and the State Department - lied through their teeth. Even then
>>>>>>they knew without a doubt that Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible, but
>>>>>>they hid the information from us. I am sorry that I did not have the
>>>>>>information at the time.
>>>>>>If I did, we would never have ruled in favor of his extradition to
>>>>>>Israel." Merritt claims that what happened in his courtroom was "nothing
>>>>>>short of a witch hunt. In retrospect, it reminds me of the witch trials in
>>>>>>Salem, Massachusetts 300 years ago. The prosecution, counseled by the OSI,
>>>>>>presented documents and witnesses whose testimony was based emotions and
>>>>>>hysteria, but not hard evidence. To my regret, we believed them. This
>>>>>>instance is a prime example of how justice can be distorted." 
>>>>>
>>>>>>Despite the disdain and rage Merritt feels for the prosecution, the OSI
>>>>>>and the State Department, he is full of praise for the Israeli judicial
>>>>>>system, and especially the prosecutor in Demjanjuk's trial, Michael
>>>>>>Shaked. "Your prosecutor was brave and honest enough to admit to the
>>>>>>doubts that arose regarding Demjanjuk's identification as Ivan the
>>>>>>Terrible. It was these doubts
>>>>>>that eventually resulted in freeing Demjanjuk from the hangman's noose.
>>>>>>And the credit for this goes to your prosecutor, who I consider to be a
>>>>>>noble man with the highest principles, quite unlike our own liars." As for
>>>>>>the allegation that Demjanjuk was in fact a collaborator of the Nazis who
>>>>>>worked as a guard in a different camp, Merritt responds, "Yes, I heard
>>>>>>about that and it might even be true, but so long as evidence has not been
>>>>>>introduced to the court, it's impossible to find him guilty of other
>>>>>>crimes. A person can only be guilty if convicted of the crime of which he
>>>>>>is accused. Demjanjuk was put on trial for
>>>>>>being Ivan the Terrible, but it became clear that he was not Ivan the
>>>>>>Terrible." 
>>>>>
>>>>>>Once the truth emerged at the Supreme Court in Jerusalem, and word of it
>>>>>>reached Judge Merritt in Cinncinnati, he filed a complaint and demanded an
>>>>>>investigation
>>>>>>of the OSI and its director at the time, Allan Ryan, on suspicion of
>>>>>>violating the constitutional rights of John Demjanjuk. The judge's claim
>>>>>>was backed up by findings brought to light by the Demjanjuk family and
>>>>>>their legal advisers, who
>>>>>>searched through trash bins near the OSI offices in Washington and
>>>>>>unearthed documents which indicated that the prosecution in the original
>>>>>>Cinncinnati trial
>>>>>>did not provide the defense with all the material in its possession, as is
>>>>>>required by law. "My moral and legal obligation, as a human being and a
>>>>>>judge,
>>>>>>is to the constitution and rule of law. This was also the obligation of
>>>>>>the officials in Washington - to submit all the information they had to
>>>>>>the court."
>>>>>>The investigation of Judge Merritt's complaint is still underway. 
>>>>>
>>>>>>Gilbert Merritt's curriculam vitae is impressive, to say the least. Born
>>>>>>in Nashville, tennessee, in 1936, he took his bachelor's degree at Yale,
>>>>>>and then
>>>>>>attended graduate school at Vanderbilt University in Nashville. He later
>>>>>>completed a law degree at Harvard. After being accepted to the bar,
>>>>>>Merritt became a law school lecturer and worked as a lawyer at one of the
>>>>>>largest firms in Nashville. In 1966, at the age of 30, Merritt was
>>>>>>appointed a public prosecutor in Nashville, becoming the youngest federal
>>>>>>prosecutor in the United States. In this position, he waged legal fights
>>>>>>to enforce the federal equal rights and civil rights laws to improve the
>>>>>>situation of the black minority of
>>>>>>one of the most racist southern states.
>>>>>
>>>>>>In 1977, President Jimmy Carter appointed him to the federal District
>>>>>>Court in Cinncinnati, and in 1989 he was promoted to chief judge of the
>>>>>>court. This fast-track judicial career path seemed to be leading toward a
>>>>>>Supreme Court appointment, an opinion that was shared by President Clinton
>>>>>>and the Democratic Party. But the Jewish community could not forgive him. 
>>>>>
>>>>>>"Various Jewish organizations attacked me for lodging my complaint and my
>>>>>>demand for an investigation," he dryly notes, his voice devoid of emotion.
>>>>>>"They accused me of anti-Semitism. I never imagined what power these
>>>>>>organizations could have."
>>>>>
>>>>>>Merritt's friends in the Nashville Jewish community came to his aid. They
>>>>>>strongly condemned the attacks against them, spoke out in his support and
>>>>>>explained that he by no means harbored any racist opinions. Still, the
>>>>>>all-powerful lobby of the East Coast Jewish establishment was undeterred.
>>>>>>Today, Merritt is still a judge in the Sixth U.S. Circuit Court of
>>>>>>Appeals, dividing his time between his judge's chambers in Cinncinnati and
>>>>>>Nashville.
>>>>>
>>>>>>"At least now I have more time to devote to my hobbies - golf, tennis,
>>>>>>bicycle riding, and my numerous public functions as a trustee of several
>>>>>>universities." 
>>>>>>[End]
>sven88



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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:53:28 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:00:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>Canadian Press, and the prestigious national TV program W5,yesterday
>>3rd November 1998,  both have confirmed that Israel's killer group
>>MOSSAD is still using Canadian passports for the Mossad terrorists.
>
>
>>What is even more hypocritical, is that the present communist
>>government of Canada, supports the criminal activities of the zionist
>>state of Israel and the MOSSAD CRIMINALS, with Canadian taxpayer
>>money!!
>>
>>
>>The media now report that Canada has one of its spies resident in
>>Israel, as permanent liaison with the MOSSAD terrorists!!!
>>
>>
>>On 12 Oct 1997 16:22:24 GMT, intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:
>>
>>>Help the assassins, heck no !
>>
>>>THEY HAVE ALL BEEN ACCEPTED INTO CANADA AS REFUGEES.
>>
>>>We love all the vermin of the world !  
>>
>>>Especially criminals !!!
>>
>>Such as the JEW Mafia from Russia, dope dealers from Viet Nam, faggots
>>spreading AIDS from Poland, and white collar criminals from Israel,
>>plus lots of other bogus refugees!!!



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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:53:28 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:00:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:

>>Canadian Press, and the prestigious national TV program W5,yesterday
>>3rd November 1998,  both have confirmed that Israel's killer group
>>MOSSAD is still using Canadian passports for the Mossad terrorists.
>
>
>>What is even more hypocritical, is that the present communist
>>government of Canada, supports the criminal activities of the zionist
>>state of Israel and the MOSSAD CRIMINALS, with Canadian taxpayer
>>money!!
>>
>>
>>The media now report that Canada has one of its spies resident in
>>Israel, as permanent liaison with the MOSSAD terrorists!!!
>>
>>
>>On 12 Oct 1997 16:22:24 GMT, intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:
>>
>>>Help the assassins, heck no !
>>
>>>THEY HAVE ALL BEEN ACCEPTED INTO CANADA AS REFUGEES.
>>
>>>We love all the vermin of the world !  
>>
>>>Especially criminals !!!
>>
>>Such as the JEW Mafia from Russia, dope dealers from Viet Nam, faggots
>>spreading AIDS from Poland, and white collar criminals from Israel,
>>plus lots of other bogus refugees!!!



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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:37:36 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>>On Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:00:33 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>
>>>OyVay & NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just do not like for the world to know how
>>>rotten, and anti-Christian the cursed JEWS really are!!!
>>>
>>>In Canada, the damned JEWS even had the Cross removed from the
>>>cenotaph, for the Remembrance Day ceremonies!!
>>>
>>>Article attached.
>>>
>>>There has been worldwide revulsion, and complaints about the damned
>>>JEWS for doing this.
>>>
>>>On 26 Nov 1997 04:07:29 GMT, jbellingxx@aol.com (Jbellingxx) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why does Nizkor list ISP's on their Web-site for everyone who disagrees with
>>>>their opinions?  Why do they do that?  Why do they list instructions on how to
>>>>mail bomb people who disagree with their opinions-these champions of social
>>>>justice and free speech?  Sing to "Happy days are here again:
>>>>
>>>>McCarthy Days are here again
>>>>The Nizkooks strike but you won't know when
>>>>get a mail bomb sent from yer old pal Ken
>>>>Nizkook days are here again
>>>>
>>>>They'll publicize your ISP's
>>>>They'd like to have you on your knees
>>>>They're busier than a nest of bees
>>>>Nizkook days are here again
>>>>
>>>>protect your precious CD rom
>>>>Watch out before you are mail bombed
>>>>
>>>>They love to put in false complaints
>>>>Beware of lies the Nizkook paints
>>>>Within this group one will find no saints
>>>>Nizkook days are here again....
>>>>
>>>>Ach!  I'm a song writer!  Move over, Irving Berlin!
>>>>Ich bin noch ein Berliner!
>>
>>
>>In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>>Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.
>>
>>Len Dolgoy, past president of the Jewish Federation of Edmonton, and
>>also the regional representative on the Canadian Jewish Congress,  had
>>arranged for the removal of the Cross at the Remembrance day
>>celebrations.
>>
>>The Strathcona Legion, represnting victims and their families fielded
>>many complaints, particularly from war widows and others who had lost
>>family members.
>>
>>
>>Mind you, the same JEWS do not mind that they will be having a 25 foot
>>scrap iron menorah cluttering up the lawn in front of the provincial
>>Parliament Buildings, to supposedly celebrate the JEW holiday of
>>Hannukah!!!!
>>
>>It seems that the JEWs can have their religious symbol in front of the
>>public, but the Cross, representing the millions of Christians who
>>died, is not to be permitted!!!!
>>
>>Judges, Lawyers and Politicians Need to be recycled - as Fertiliser
>>



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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:32:27 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:49:09 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
>>full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.
>>
>>They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
>>THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
>>They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>>
>>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>
>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>>
>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>>>
>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>>
>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>>
>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>>
>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>campaign.
>>>
>>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>>THEM!!!
>>>
>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>>at Canada Post include:
>>>
>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>>>
>>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>>>
>>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>>
>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>>
>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>>
>>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>disappearing!!!
>>>
>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Read all the articles below!!!
>>>
>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>stolen.
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>>>
>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>>>
>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>>>
>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>been arrested.
>>>
>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>>>
>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>mail.
>>>
>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>>>
>>>
>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>>>
>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>>>
>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>Registered items!!!!
>>>
>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>>>
>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>>>
>>>
>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Rainer,
>>>
>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>>>
>>>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>>>
>>>"Canadian Mail Warning
>>>
>>>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>tip of the iceberg.
>>>
>>>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>>>
>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>>>substantial losses.
>>>
>>>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>pay the higher cost.
>>>
>>>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>>>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>>>
>>>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>>>
>>>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>> writes
>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>>>
>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>letters?
>>>
>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>USPS.
>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>as other media.



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On Wed, 18 Nov 1998 01:01:23 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>>>Is this part of the retaliation of Cuba, for being swindled out of $12
>>>millions regarding Confed Life, plus the theft by Canada Post Managers
>>>of a sack full of computer programs??
>>>
>>>
>>>On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:09:50 -0800, Peter Aspinall
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>yara4609@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/
>>>>> 
>>>>> November 13, 1998
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mystery shrouds slain DND worker
>>>>> 
>>>>> Body unidentified in Cuban morgue for 7 months
>>>>> By BRAD HUNTER -- Ottawa Sun
>>>>> 
>>>>>  A Department of National Defence employee was gunned down in Cuba months
>>>>> ago, but his body was only identified this week.

In view of the fact that Canada supplies Canadian passports to the
MOSSAD for their murderers, one must wonder whether the so-called
Canadian Defence staffer was really working for Canada, the CIA, or
Israeli Mossad.

In other words, just another dead spy, who got caught??



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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:02:40 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:13:06 GMT, pmartori@globalserve.net (Pedro
>Martori ) wrote:
>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:


>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>Life Insurance??
>>>
>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>YEARS??
>>>
>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million - crooks in Canada, or in
>>>Cuba??
>>>
>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>reparations??
>>>
>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>>>
>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>>>
>>>Make sure that all your friends in Cuba know about this and try to
>>>recover the money from Canada!!! Tell Granma about this.
>>
>>    This is the type of monkey business that canadian premiers have
>>been doing with the mobsters called government of Cuba...
>>    Cretin know very damned well what it is all about but prefers
>>     to make peanuts with kastro than billions with a FREE CUBA !
>>********************************************
>>Pedro Martori - Montreal, Qc, Canada
>>    pmartori@globalserve.net
>>********************************************



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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:15:21 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:15:20 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:03:43 GMT, asumat@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>
>>>ARE THE ROTHSCHILD BEHIND THE CONSPIRACY?
>>>By: Efraim Menashe
>>>
>>>
>>>Jerusalem, Israel--It isn't easy being a conspiracy researcher- let
>>>alone a Jewish conspiracy researcher- when so many Jews are involved
>>>in political intrigue and world domination. This is a fact any
>>>objective thinker must conclude- whether the researcher is a Jew or
>>>not. As a Jew, the decision is harder to accept.
>>>
>>>But I guess I am an objective thinker before I am a Jew, and for that
>>>reason I am prepared to publicly admit to all who are reading that
>>>indeed, there is a conspiracy to control and dominate the world, and
>>>that many, many Jews play, and have played a role, in that conspiracy.
>>>For this is not speculation, it is fact. The names are well known to
>>>all:  Rothschild, Warburg, George Soros, Henry Kissinger, the
>>>Bronfmans, Jacob Shiff, Bernard Baruch, Judah Benjamin, etc. However,
>>>one must remember that included in the conspiracy are also the
>>>Rockefellers, J.P. Morgan, Cecil Rhodes, the British Royal Family, the
>>>Vatican, the French and Italian members of the "NWO planning
>>>committee." Most of the players in the NWO arena are not Jews, if all
>>>the members are included.
>>>
>>>The problem is that for some reason only the Rothschilds are
>>>associated with being behind the creation of "the Illuminati." All the
>>>conspiracy literature points the sole finger at this family for
>>>creating the Illuminati and causing revolutions in France, Russia, the
>>>US, the murder of Lincoln, the creation of the Federal Reserve, the
>>>crash of l929, the Bank of England, two World Wars: in fact,
>>>everything that supposedly happens in the NWO is carried out via
>>>"agents of Rothschild." It is quite amazing how every conspiracy
>>>researcher whether it is Tex Marrs, David Icke, Guradas, Ralph
>>>Epperson, Eustice Mullins, John Coleman, it doesn't matter from which
>>>perspective they came to understand the grand conspiracy, they all
>>>agree on one thing that is that the "Rothschilds who are behind
>>>everything."
>>>
>>>The Schiffs, the Warburgs, Bernard Baruch, are said to be "agents of
>>>Rothschilds" but this may only mean that no other higher chain of
>>>command has been identified. None of these so-called agents ever
>>>admitted to being an agent, nor do we really know if they were. The
>>>way the conspiracy is described in the revisionist view of history, it
>>>is just assumed that they are, as it is assumed that the Rothschilds
>>>are behind the creation of the Illuminati. I have yet to see any proof
>>>that this is the case. I am not suggesting that the Rothschilds are
>>>not players in the NWO, only that they are far from being the only
>>>ones and it has never been shown by any conspiracy researcher that
>>>they are indeed, "Chairmen of the Board."
>>>
>>>It is possible that the Rothschilds agreed to have all the blame
>>>placed on them so there would be an outlet for those observant people
>>>who discovered the conspiracy. The family appears to have accepted
>>>that they would be blamed for the conspiracy and this would cause an
>>>increase in anti-semitism. The Rothschilds may have gone along with
>>>this in order to gain more power in the circle of powerbrokers.
>>>
>>>It doesn't seem to occur to the the Rothschilds' accusers that the
>>>likelihood of so much power being accumulated by one family is
>>>infinitely remote. What is never asked is "What was so special about
>>>the policies of the Rothschilds?"  So they lent money to kings.
>>>Couldn't other rich people do that? How come no king ever tried to
>>>kill one of them to get rid of his debt? There is no recorded event
>>>anywhere of any type of opposition to Rothschilds' evil practices. Why
>>>not? the Knights Templer made enemies and were defeated by their
>>>enemies. How come the Rothschilds had no enemies who took revenge?
>>>How is it possible that a family dynasty can attain such power and
>>>wealth and yet have no enemies?
>>>
>>>Another question which needs to be answered is: "Did the Rothschilds
>>>run the Illuminati on their own?" Did they alone create all the
>>>intrigue and figure out all the plots and carry out the plans to cause
>>>the revolutions and wars?
>>>
>>>The running of the conspiracy is so complex, it defies all logic to
>>>suggest that it can be managed by just only one family. They must have
>>>had promoters and advocates who were prepared to go along with them.
>>>Yet there isn't one recorded event of a rebellion by the people who
>>>were following them or any other powerbroker competing for the top
>>>spot. The so-called Rothschilds' agents, Schiff, Benjamin, Warburg,
>>>Baruch, all went along without any challenge Rothschilds' leadership.
>>>Why? Since when has such power entrenched in one family not met with
>>>opposition?
>>>
>>>If the conspiracy theory that the Rothschilds with the Illuminati
>>>created the French revolution is true, and that the War of 1812, the
>>>Civil War, murder of Abraham Lincoln, the Russian revolution, the
>>>Russian-Japan war were Rothschild inspired, how is it that hrough all
>>>of these years the family was able to keep themselves so completely
>>>hidden from the public and free of blame? Why are they so untouchable?
>>>Perhaps the near "supermen" status many conspiracy researchers give
>>>the Rothschilds needs to be reevaluated. It simply isn't possible for
>>>one family to be so powerful over a period of 200 years and for one
>>>family to control everything the way conspiracy researchers present
>>>it.
>>>
>>>I am prepared to buy that the Rothschilds from their beginnings are
>>>one of the world's lowest form of lifes and responsible for the death
>>>of hundreds of millions of people, Jews included. They may even be a
>>>devil worshipers.  The entire family is a shame to the Jewish people.
>>>They have no love for the Jewish people and they have caused much
>>>hardship for their brethren.  So they are criminals but they are just
>>>one powerful family out of many.  Why are they being singled out as
>>>sitting on top of the heap? Who are all the others that we don't hear
>>>about?
>>>
>>>How could one family have become so powerful that even the Kings of
>>>Europe they were lending money to never tried to eliminate the debt by
>>>eliminating the moneylender? Certainly these heads of state had the
>>>means, militarily and in other ways, to handle the Rothschilds in
>>>order not to have to repay debts. However no proof exists anywhere to
>>>prove that the Rothschilds were behind the creation of the Illuminati.
>>>
>>>My point is that they may have been involved in the affair, but they
>>>aren't the sole architects of the conspiracy.
>>>
>>>Fellow conspiracy researchers: there is no Jewish conspiracy. There
>>>are plenty of Jews wrapped up in the quest for a NWO, but to ascribe
>>>the entire agenda to a small group of Jews, is plainly wrong. The
>>>anti-Semites like to point out "how powerful the Jews are", but are
>>>the Jews as a people so powerful or is a tiny group of Jews dominating
>>>the power?
>>>
>>>Are these Jews really the ones in charge of the entire agenda to
>>>enslave the world? Hardly. The notion that there is a cabal of Jews
>>>who sit together once a year and decide how to control the world, and
>>>they do this on behalf of some Jewish entity, or Israel, is what we
>>>are asked to believe. If such a cabal exists, and the anti-Semites say
>>>it has existed for centuries, then where is one recorded historical
>>>event of a group of Jews assembling to plan their control over the
>>>world? There is no proof anywhere showing that The Protocols of Zion
>>>was describing a group of Jews intent on dominating the world so they,
>>>the Jews, would be kings. Indeed the protocols was probably an
>>>accurate description of a group of people bent on world domination.
>>>There may have been some Jews sitting at the table. I believe that. I
>>>just don't believe that the majority were Jews.  If not, then who are
>>>the others? Who sits at that table other than the selected Jewish
>>>powerbrokers?
>>>
>>>There are Jews involved in the conspiracy to subject the world to a
>>>one-world government, no question of that, yet none of them are
>>>representing any Jews other than themselves. We know the Jewish masses
>>>are wonderful, hardworking educated people. The select few who are
>>>rich and are powerbrokers are a disgrace and should be exposed. How
>>>Israel's leadership has been thoroughly compromised and corrupted by
>>>the international Jewish powerbrokers should also be exposed. Rich,
>>>powerful Jews abroad exploit Israel for the gain of the people they
>>>work for. If these truths were exposed at least the issue would be
>>>confronted and the wound could, at least, start to heal.
>>>
>>>Unlike the majority of Jews, I have no reason to respect people like
>>>George Soros or Edgar Bronfman. They don't represent anyone other than
>>>other powerbrokers. I offer no guilt for these people. They are
>>>gangsters and like all other gangsters, they need to be punished. It
>>>smears the entire Jewish people for these people to claim they are
>>>"Jewish leaders."  I'm one Jew/Israeli who never voted for Bronfman
>>>and object to his involvement in Jewish affairs and Israeli diplomacy.
>>>Jews like Soros and Bronfman are a cancer in the body of the Jewish
>>>people and to the state of Israel. I'm all for exposing these
>>>criminals and letting them face justice. Perhaps that's the difference
>>>between me and the rest of my fellow Jews: I don't care if we "wash
>>>our dirty laundry in front of the goyim," we need to wash our dirty
>>>laundry in front of ourselves.
>>>
>>>That, fellow conspiracy researchers, is where I end my apologies. I
>>>don't believe there is a Jewish conspiracy or ever was. What happened
>>>was that many rich and unscrupulous Jews throughout the past 300 years
>>>were prepared to take the blame for the conspiracy in exchange for
>>>power and influence. They believed that a little exploitation of your
>>>fellow Jews wasn't such a high price to pay if it meant personal
>>>advancement. Edgar Bronfman and George Soros were the Baruchs and
>>>Warburgs of a generation ago. Nothing changes in the conspiracy. Jews
>>>play in the game today as they did then. However I am not sure they
>>>are in charge today anymore than they were then.
>>>
>>>Let's not forget that the Vatican, the French, German, and Italian
>>>families, and the existing Monarchies in Europe, are still major
>>>sources of political and economic power in the world. The Jews are
>>>just one player in a game with many players. The only difference is
>>>that the Jews and Israel ARE in the news and identifiable.  Thus it's
>>>easy to point the finger at the Jews because they stand out due to
>>>their economic strength.  The others remain hidden behind thrones and
>>>Churches and a European tradition of secrecy. The Jews are featured in
>>>the mainstream media while everything the Vatican and the others do
>>>are held in secret so names are not recognizable.
>>>
>>>No fellow researchers, the Jews don't control the NWO. This conclusion
>>>may not be accepted by the Spotlight crowd who are looking for the
>>>simple answer and to them, it is just to blame the Jews for world
>>>domination.  This is what the non-Jewish NWO players have planned and
>>>executed as a cunning policy to keep their plan for a one-world
>>>government secret: When it is threatened with exposure, get a few
>>>stooges to "blame the Jews" then have a few other dupes point the
>>>finger at the stooges and scream "anti-Semite."
>>>
>>>While the Spotlight crowd may not be capable of realizing how they are
>>>being duped, I hope all other sincere conspiracy researchers begin to
>>>question their basic contention that "the Rothschilds are behind the
>>>conspiracy to dominate the world." While the Rothschilds may be
>>>members of the team, they are far from being a one-man show.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:42:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>You will probably be branded a racist by the Jew Sol Littman and his
>band of terrorists!!!
>
>They do not want non-Jews like you to read their books, which detail
>THEIR RACIST POLICIES!!!
>
>
>On 22 Mar 1998 17:57:57 GMT, intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:
>
>>vark! (mjh@idigital.net) wrote:
>>: intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
>>
>>: > But who decides.  The flat earth people say it is hatred against their
>>: > beliefs for schools to teach that the world is round.
>>
>>: *We* are to say, the collective voice of our nation.  You know,
>>: 'Democracy'.  But congratulations for utterly trivializing a serious
>>: debate.
>>
>>Ok, read the following from the Jewish Talmud and ask yourself if it is
>>racism and promotes hatred.
>>
>>
>>
>>Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:56:42 -0800
>>From: Cool Canadian 
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>>Subject: Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud
>>
>>
>>
>>"The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud..." 
>>
>>            "Babylonian Talmud", published by the Boston Talmud Society,
>>p. XII
>>
>>The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish
>>peoples, as "Gentiles",
>>"Goyim". Let's see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the Jews concerning
>>the non-Jewish majority,
>>i.e. those who are not part of Jahve's "Chosen People": 
>>
>>"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They
>>are beasts." 
>>
>>Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b 
>>
>>"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor
>>the the dog more
>>than the non-Jew." 
>>
>>Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30 
>>
>>"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human
>>form. It is not
>>becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served
>>by animals in
>>human form." 
>>
>>Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855 
>>
>>"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." 
>>
>>Coschen hamischpat 405 
>>
>>"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs." 
>>
>>Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b 
>>
>>"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they
>>compare with the
>>Jew like a monkey to a human." 
>>
>>Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b 
>>
>>"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog." 
>>
>>Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b 
>>
>>"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not
>>express sympathy to
>>the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as
>>if one of his oxen or
>>asses had died"." 
>>
>>Jore dea 377, 1 
>>
>>"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between
>>animals." 
>>
>>Talmud Sanhedrin 74b 
>>
>>"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile." 
>>
>>Sepher ikkarim III c 25 
>>
>>"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians
>>belong to the denying
>>ones of the Torah." 
>>
>>Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5 
>>
>>"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." 
>>
>>Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b 
>>
>>"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the
>>same as making a
>>sacrifice to God." 
>>
>>Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:18:57 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:27:27 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:52:15 -0400, "[Unknown sender]"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Hide your crimes behind the holohoax!
>>>
>>>Date: Monday, 22-Dec-97 06:45 PM
>>>
>>>Subject: 6 Indicted in Fraud Over Use of Grants for Hasidic Groups
>>>
>>>   Excerpt:
>>>
>>>   The Federal subpoenas are "...remindful of the Holocaust that many in
>>>   this community endured decades ago."
>>>
>>>   By BENJAMIN WEISER N.Y. Times May 29, 1997 (Metro section only)
>>>
>>>   NEW YORK -- Five members of a Hasidic community in Rockland County and
>>>   one in Brooklyn were indicted Wednesday on charges that they
>>>   systematically defrauded the federal and state governments of tens of
>>>   millions of dollars in student loans, business assistance and housing
>>>   subsidies.
>>>
>>>   In one scheme, according to federal prosecutors, a Talmudic seminary in
>>>   Brooklyn was financed almost entirely by federal Pell grants awarded to
>>>   ineligible or nonexistent students. The defendants also looted state
>>>   student aid programs, Small Business Administration programs and the
>>>   federal Section 8 housing program, prosecutors said.
>>>
>>>   The plans, the authorities said, were used to enrich the defendants but
>>>   also to benefit the community institutions of New Square, the Rockland
>>>   County village, along with the yeshiva in New Square.
>>>
>>>   In a broad indictment unsealed Wednesday in Manhattan, the U.S.
>>>   attorney's office depicted a vast scheme by which the six men and others
>>>   enrolled thousands of New Square and Brooklyn residents in post-secondary
>>>   education programs in Jewish seminaries and Rockland County Community
>>>   College in order to fraudulently obtain money through federal Pell
>>>   grants, which are awarded to needy post-secondary students.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said that most of the students were not eligible for the
>>>   grants, did not get their degrees and, in some cases, enrolled after
>>>   recruiters promised them hundreds of dollars a year. Prosecutors said
>>>   that one Brooklyn seminary program fraudulently got $10.3 million in Pell
>>>   grants "on behalf of its purported students."
>>>
>>>   The government's investigation has been no secret in the tightly knit
>>>   community of about 6,000 in New Square, which consists almost entirely of
>>>   Hasidim. News of the indictment drew sharp criticism there Wednesday. A
>>>   statement by village representatives contended that the U.S. attorney in
>>>   Manhattan, Mary Jo White, had a "vendetta" against New Square residents,
>>>   and that federal agents had earlier scared small children there by
>>>   serving subpoenas at 6 a.m. "in a manner remindful of the Holocaust that
>>>   many in this community endured decades ago."
>>>
>>>   Rabbi Mayer Schiller, (1) who said he was a spokesman for the residents,
>>>   said he was certain that the accusations would be proven false. "They
>>>   have imposed a reign of terror on this entire community," he said,
>>>   referring to the federal prosecutors."
>>>
>>>   Ms. White responded by citing an earlier phase of the investigation when,
>>>   in 1995, a federal judge held the Yeshiva of New Square in contempt of
>>>   court for failing to obey a grand jury subpoena for its bank records and
>>>   other documents, which led to a $1 million fine paid by the yeshiva.
>>>
>>>   "Given the repeated efforts to obstruct the grand jury's investigation,"
>>>   she said, "the response and accusations of unfair treatment are
>>>   disheartening, but not surprising."
>>>
>>>   The indictment was vague about just how the money was put to use, and
>>>   just how much ended up back in the community.
>>>
>>>   Schiller said that New Square was founded in 1957 by four Holocaust
>>>   survivors, including Chaim Berger, one of the defendants named in
>>>   Wednesday's indictment.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said Berger had been a member of the village's board of
>>>   trustees and the board of the Yeshiva of New Square, and was chairman of
>>>   the board of the Brooklyn seminary, Toldos Yakov Yosef, where many of the
>>>   New Square and Brooklyn students receiving Pell grants were enrolled.
>>>
>>>   The indictment asserted that Berger and two other of the seminary's
>>>   administrators, Kalmen Stern and David Goldstein, created a false picture
>>>   of the seminary's programs. The indictment said they falsified resumes,
>>>   minutes of the board meetings and reviews of student progress to get
>>>   federal money.
>>>
>>>   The seminary was financed "almost exclusively" by Pell grants awarded to
>>>   the school on behalf of its "alleged" students from 1987 to 1993, the
>>>   indictment said, but in reality, it added, the school enrolled students
>>>   who did not meet the requirements, were not seeking a degree, and did not
>>>   take tests or even take part in any actual program of study.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said that in the early 1980s, Berger and others helped
>>>   create a program for "independent Judaic Studies" for New Square students
>>>   at Rockland County Community College.
>>>
>>>   From 1982 to 1988, thousands of students were enrolled, and most got Pell
>>>   grants and state tuition aid. The indictment said that many of these
>>>   students were also not eligible for aid, and in some cases, did not even
>>>   know they were enrolled.
>>>
>>>   "Some New Square and Brooklyn residents were enrolled in as many as five
>>>   different educational institutions, and received Pell Grants for as many
>>>   as 10 or more years, without ever receiving any degree or any certificate
>>>   reflecting that they had completed a program of study," the indictment
>>>   said.
>>>
>>>   Besides Berger and Stern, the indictment charged three other New Square
>>>   residents, Jacob Elbaum; Berger's son, Benjamin, and Avrum D.  Friesel
>>>   who, according to Schiller, is the son of New Square's mayor.  Goldstein,
>>>   the sixth defendant, lives in Brooklyn.
>>>
>>>   None of the defendants or their lawyers could be reached for comment
>>>   Wednesday. Gerald Shargel, a lawyer for the Yeshiva of New Square, said
>>>   he could not comment on the specifics of the case.
>>>
>>>



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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:42:49 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>You will probably be branded a racist by the Jew Sol Littman and his
>band of terrorists!!!
>
>They do not want non-Jews like you to read their books, which detail
>THEIR RACIST POLICIES!!!
>
>
>On 22 Mar 1998 17:57:57 GMT, intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote:
>
>>vark! (mjh@idigital.net) wrote:
>>: intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
>>
>>: > But who decides.  The flat earth people say it is hatred against their
>>: > beliefs for schools to teach that the world is round.
>>
>>: *We* are to say, the collective voice of our nation.  You know,
>>: 'Democracy'.  But congratulations for utterly trivializing a serious
>>: debate.
>>
>>Ok, read the following from the Jewish Talmud and ask yourself if it is
>>racism and promotes hatred.
>>
>>
>>
>>Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:56:42 -0800
>>From: Cool Canadian 
>>Newsgroups: soc.culture.palestine
>>Subject: Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud
>>
>>
>>
>>"The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud..." 
>>
>>            "Babylonian Talmud", published by the Boston Talmud Society,
>>p. XII
>>
>>The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish
>>peoples, as "Gentiles",
>>"Goyim". Let's see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the Jews concerning
>>the non-Jewish majority,
>>i.e. those who are not part of Jahve's "Chosen People": 
>>
>>"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They
>>are beasts." 
>>
>>Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b 
>>
>>"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor
>>the the dog more
>>than the non-Jew." 
>>
>>Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30 
>>
>>"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human
>>form. It is not
>>becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served
>>by animals in
>>human form." 
>>
>>Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855 
>>
>>"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." 
>>
>>Coschen hamischpat 405 
>>
>>"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs." 
>>
>>Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b 
>>
>>"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they
>>compare with the
>>Jew like a monkey to a human." 
>>
>>Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b 
>>
>>"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog." 
>>
>>Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b 
>>
>>"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not
>>express sympathy to
>>the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as
>>if one of his oxen or
>>asses had died"." 
>>
>>Jore dea 377, 1 
>>
>>"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between
>>animals." 
>>
>>Talmud Sanhedrin 74b 
>>
>>"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile." 
>>
>>Sepher ikkarim III c 25 
>>
>>"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians
>>belong to the denying
>>ones of the Torah." 
>>
>>Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5 
>>
>>"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." 
>>
>>Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b 
>>
>>"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the
>>same as making a
>>sacrifice to God." 
>>
>>Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772



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Subject: HELMS won`t let SHERRITT off the HOOK
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On 8 Jul 1998 14:46:25 GMT, ricardoag@aol.com (Ricardoag) wrote:

> 
>Wednesday, July 8, 1998 
>
>Helms won't let Sherritt off the hook 
>
>By PETER MORTON 
>Washington Bureau Chief The Financial Post 
> Sherritt International Corp. and other foreign companies now in Cuba are
>playing a pivotal role in whether a U.S.-European Union deal on investment on
>the island will be approved by Congress, industry and government sources say. 
> Senator Jesse Helms, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is
>demanding Toronto-based Sherritt and other companies already swept up by the
>Helms-Burton law continue to be punished, sources said yesterday. 
> "Sherritt is seen as the poster boy of Helms-Burton and Helms does not want to
>see Sherritt off the hook," said one industry source close to the U.S.-EU
>negotiations. 
> Helms is worried the deal signed by the U.S. and the EU in May would
>essentially "immunize" Sherritt and others operating on expropriated property
>since any new penalties imposed by the U.S. would be only on investment in Cuba
>since then, the source said. 
> "In fact, under the final text of the understanding, a current investor would
>even retain the right to pass this property to another EU investor who, in
>turn, could use this stolen property in perpetuity ­ all with the blessing of
>the U.S. government," Helms and Benjamin Gilman, chairman of the House
>Committee on International Relations, said in a June 17 letter to Secretary of
>State Madeline Albright. 
> Sherritt is the largest single foreign investor in property in Cuba
>expropriated by President Fidel Castro in 1959. It is mining nickel on property
>formerly owned by Freeport-McMoRan Inc. of New Orleans. 
> So far, Sherritt is the one of two foreign companies to be swept up in
>Helms-Burton. Its executives, along with those from an Israeli fruit company,
>have been barred from entering the U.S. under the Helms-Burton law. No European
>companies have fallen under Helms-Burton. 
> EU Trade Commissioner Sir Leon Brittan said yesterday there is no chance the
>deal would be re-negotiated to meet Helms's concerns. 
> "We're not agreeable to modifying the agreement," he said. 
> The EU is waiting for the U.S. Congress to approve the pact, although Brittan
>said he did not receive any indication on when legislation would even be
>presented to Congress. 
> The proposed U.S.-EU deal would give President Bill Clinton the right to waive
>that part of Helms-Burton, called Title III. He has already waived Title IV,
>the section that would allow U.S. companies and citizens to sue foreign
>companies for operating on what was once their property in Cuba. There are
>5,911 U.S.-recognized claims and lawsuits could be expected to reach billions
>of dollars. 
> The agreement would also enable European companies to invest in Iran and Libya
>if the EU ensured the two countries' terrorism campaigns were not being
>supported. 
> So far, Ottawa has not signed on to the proposed deal, insisting it is still
>looking into the complex agreement, said Leslie Swartman, a spokeswoman for
>Trade Minister Sergio Marchi. 
> But Canadian government sources said what happens to Sherritt is a key
>consideration in whether the federal government would go along with the U.S.-EU
>agreement, try to negotiate a separate deal with the U.S. or simply stay away. 
> "There is no doubt Sherritt is one consideration," an official said. 
> The EU agreed not only not to fund any private venture on confiscated property
>in Cuba nor on confiscated property anywhere in the world, something Helms is
>looking for, said Robert Muse, a Washington lawyer specializing in Cuba. 
> "Jesse Helms wants to see such an agreement reached," he said. 
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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:58:12 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>Subject: Canada Post Managers Can STEAL MAIL!!!
>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:38 GMT
>
>
>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>Bill of Rights.
>
>
>
>The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>Education department of the Government of Cuba!!
>
>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>
>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>
>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>they stop stealing mail!!!
>
>Surely the managers in Canada Post are not being paid by the CIA to
>steal mail sent to Cuba??
>
>
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>foreign government department. (The Education department of the Government of Cuba)
>>>The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>
>>> One must wonder whether the CIA have "arranged" to have items for Cuba 
>>>stolen by Canada Post managers???
>
>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>campaign.
>
>>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>>THEM!!!
>
>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>>at Canada Post include:
>
>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>
>>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>
>>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>
>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>mail to and from Canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it disappearing!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 05:35:51 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>Will the US now be able to use the payoff to the bankrupt Canadian
>>insurance company, Confederation Life, as the legal precedent to make
>>Sherritt pay for the theft of the assets of freeport-McMoran??
>
>>>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:27:39 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:
>
>>>>It seems that the payoff to the bankrupt Canuck insurance company, now
>>>>sets a legal precedent for Freeport McMoran to collect both from
>>>>Sherritt, and the Cuban government in the World Court.
>
>>>>This should create some interesting situations vis a vis the
>>>>Canadian/US relations, what???
>
>
>
>>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:
>
>>>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>>>Life Insurance??
>
>>>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>>>YEARS??
>
>>>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million - crooks in Canada, or in
>>>>>Cuba??
>
>>>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>>>reparations??
>
>>>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>
>>>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>
>>On 8 Jul 1998 14:46:25 GMT, ricardoag@aol.com (Ricardoag) wrote:
> 
>>>Wednesday, July 8, 1998 
>
>>>Helms won't let Sherritt off the hook 
>
>>>By PETER MORTON 
>>>Washington Bureau Chief The Financial Post 
>>> Sherritt International Corp. and other foreign companies now in Cuba are
>>>playing a pivotal role in whether a U.S.-European Union deal on investment on
>>>the island will be approved by Congress, industry and government sources say. 
>>> Senator Jesse Helms, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is
>>>demanding Toronto-based Sherritt and other companies already swept up by the
>>>Helms-Burton law continue to be punished, sources said yesterday. 
>
>>> "Sherritt is seen as the poster boy of Helms-Burton and Helms does not want to
>>>see Sherritt off the hook," said one industry source close to the U.S.-EU
>>>negotiations. 
>
>>> Helms is worried the deal signed by the U.S. and the EU in May would
>>>essentially "immunize" Sherritt and others operating on expropriated property
>>>since any new penalties imposed by the U.S. would be only on investment in Cuba
>>>since then, the source said. 
>
>>> "In fact, under the final text of the understanding, a current investor would
>>>even retain the right to pass this property to another EU investor who, in
>>>turn, could use this stolen property in perpetuity ­ all with the blessing of
>>>the U.S. government," Helms and Benjamin Gilman, chairman of the House
>>>Committee on International Relations, said in a June 17 letter to Secretary of
>>>State Madeline Albright. 
>
>>> Sherritt is the largest single foreign investor in property in Cuba
>>>expropriated by President Fidel Castro in 1959. It is mining nickel on property
>>>formerly owned by Freeport-McMoRan Inc. of New Orleans. 
>
>>> So far, Sherritt is the one of two foreign companies to be swept up in
>>>Helms-Burton. Its executives, along with those from an Israeli fruit company,
>>>have been barred from entering the U.S. under the Helms-Burton law. No European
>>>companies have fallen under Helms-Burton. 
>
>>> EU Trade Commissioner Sir Leon Brittan said yesterday there is no chance the
>>>deal would be re-negotiated to meet Helms's concerns. 
>>> "We're not agreeable to modifying the agreement," he said. 
>>> The EU is waiting for the U.S. Congress to approve the pact, although Brittan
>>>said he did not receive any indication on when legislation would even be
>>>presented to Congress. 
>
>>> The proposed U.S.-EU deal would give President Bill Clinton the right to waive
>>>that part of Helms-Burton, called Title III. He has already waived Title IV,
>>>the section that would allow U.S. companies and citizens to sue foreign
>>>companies for operating on what was once their property in Cuba. There are
>>>5,911 U.S.-recognized claims and lawsuits could be expected to reach billions
>>>of dollars. 
>
>>> The agreement would also enable European companies to invest in Iran and Libya
>>>if the EU ensured the two countries' terrorism campaigns were not being
>>>supported. 
>
>>> So far, Ottawa has not signed on to the proposed deal, insisting it is still
>>>looking into the complex agreement, said Leslie Swartman, a spokeswoman for
>>>Trade Minister Sergio Marchi. 
>
>>> But Canadian government sources said what happens to Sherritt is a key
>>>consideration in whether the federal government would go along with the U.S.-EU
>>>agreement, try to negotiate a separate deal with the U.S. or simply stay away. 
>>> "There is no doubt Sherritt is one consideration," an official said. 
>>> The EU agreed not only not to fund any private venture on confiscated property
>>>in Cuba nor on confiscated property anywhere in the world, something Helms is
>>>looking for, said Robert Muse, a Washington lawyer specializing in Cuba. 
>>> "Jesse Helms wants to see such an agreement reached," he said. 
>>>       ricardo a. gonzalez              



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On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:53:08 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>>
>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>
>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>
>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>
>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>
>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!
>>
>>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>>
>>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>>
>>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is 
>>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>>
>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>> 
>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>
>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>>
>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>>
>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>>
>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>
>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>
>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>
>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>
>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>
>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>> >               letters?
>>
>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>
>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>
>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>
>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>
>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>
>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>
>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>
>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>> >OyVey???
>>
>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>
>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>
>>>> >Check this out!
>>
>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>letter just ask.
>>
>>
>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>
>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>
>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>
>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>
>>
>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>
>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>
>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>
>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>
>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>
>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>
>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>>
>>
>>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>>Canada!!!
>>
>>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>>
>>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>>
>>
>>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>>>>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>>>>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>>you've got me, eh?
>>
>>>>Please print this form and send to: 
>>>>The Nizkor Project 
>>>>c/o 
>>>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>>>xxxxxx Street 
>>>>Toronto, Ontario  
>>
>>>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>>
>>>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>>>cheque's memo section. 
>>
>>
>>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>>
>>



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I am selling through internet and I meanwhile have been loosing mail
worth USD 1000.00 + . Of course registered letters. No use. They do
what
they want over there. If I get an order from Canada I get frightened.
And it is going on like that since a very long time.
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On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:51:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:
>On 30 Oct 1998 15:47:29 GMT, kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay
>SOB) wanted to write the following rather than supporting the thieves
>in Canada Post:
>
>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>Bill of Rights.
>
>
>
>The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>Government of Cuba!!
>
>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>
>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>
>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>they stop stealing mail!!!
>
>
>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>campaign.
>
>>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>>THEM!!!
>
>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>>at Canada Post include:
>
>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>
>>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>
>>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>
>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>disappearing!!!
>
>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>>>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>stolen.
>
>
>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>been arrested.
>
>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>mail.
>
>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>
>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>wrote:
>
>>>>>Rainer,
>
>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>
>>>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>>>"Canadian Mail Warning
>
>>>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>tip of the iceberg.
>
>>>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>
>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>>>substantial losses.
>
>>>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>pay the higher cost.
>
>>>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>>>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>
>>>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>
>>>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>> writes
>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>letters?
>
>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>USPS.
>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>as other media.
>



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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:18:56 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:49:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:45:55 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Further to previous news reports, the Past President of CGA Alberta, William
>>>L. Mearns, has been sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison on his conviction for
>>>embezzling from the County of Red Deer, Alberta.
>>>
>>>PAST PRESIDENT CGA - CRIMINAL TRIAL  - GETS  3  1/2  YEARS  IMPRISONMENT
>>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>WARNING  RE  CGA  CANADA
>>>
>>>OF  CONCERN  TO  ACCOUNTING   STUDENTS,  ACCOUNTANTS,  AND  THE  GENERAL  PUBLIC
>>>
>>>CGA'S   IN   CANADA  -  WHAT'S   WRONG   WITH   THEM?
>>>
>>>Over  the past year, national media have been filling the news with stories
>>>of major scandals involving prominent CERTIFIED GENERAL ACCOUNTANTS (CGA'S)
>>>in Canada.
>>>
>>>In Alberta, the media have had a field day for the past year, reporting on
>>>the fact that  a PAST PRESIDENT of CGA Alberta, an FCGA and CGA, was under
>>>investigation, and eventually charged with 14 serious criminal charges,
>>>
>>>The  complaints  were  filed by the Hongkong Bank to the RCMPCOMMERCIAL
>>>CRIME DIVISION.
>>>
>>>The HK Bank was complaining about William Mearns,who had been for 12 years
>>>the Controller/Treasurer of the County of Red Deer, Alberta.
>>>
>>>MEARNS WAS CHARGED WITH 14 SERIOUS CRIMINAL CHARGES,  as reported
>>>by CFRN-TV, the Edmonton Sun, and Red Deer Advocate. Among the charges are 5
>>>charges of uttering forged documents, another 5 charges of making a false
>>>document, 2 more charges of forgery, one more charge of fraud, and one of
>>>theft over $5,000.00.
>>>  
>>>MORE THAN ONE MILLION DOLLARS is reported to be missing.
>>>
>>>At  his next Court appearance on 4th October 1996,  the third adjournment
>>>requested by Mearns, he was convicted, and sentenced to  3  1/2  years  in  prison.
>>>
>>>At the end of 1995, without any advice to the general public or EVEN TO
>>>MEMBERS OF CGA ALBERTA, MEARNS WAS ALLOWED  TO SECRETLY  RESIGN BOTH HIS CGA
>>>AND FCGA  designations. This seems to be a first for Canada, where an FCGA
>>>surrenders what was supposed to be a prestigious designation.  In the past
>>>year Mearns and one of his businesses have both gone bankrupt.
>>>
>>>Mind you, Mearns got his FCGA in connection with his work in 1987-1988,
>>>where he was involved with THE ADMISSSION TO CGA ALBERTA OF UNQUALIFIED
>>>BOOKKEEPERS, WHO WERE GIVEN THE CGA DESIGNATION, WITHOUT ANY REQUIREMENT FOR
>>>EDUCATION,QUALIFICATIONS, EXPERIENCE, NO EXAMS or even a requirement for
>>>upgrading courses to bring them up to an acceptable standard.  CGA Alberta
>>>of course benefitted financially, from the huge increase in dues and fees
>>>from these new members.
>>>
>>>The Vancouver Sun and other national media recently carried banner headlines
>>>regarding ROMAN EVANCIC, another FCGA, who had got himself SHOT!!!  This was
>>>apparently in connection with some business partner and a collections
>>>problem. The news reported that the assailant said, as he shot Evancic:" I'm
>>>from your stock brokers. I  understand you ripped him off." (Vancouver Sun -
>>>11 January 1996).
>>>
>>>And don't forget the scandal exposed on national TV of the Surrey, BC  CGA
>>>convicted of embezzling millions of dollars from fellow parishioners of his  church.
>>>
>>>Are these published reports, as well as others, part of the reason that the
>>>Maritime Provinces have successfully maintained that CGA's in those
>>>provinces ARE  NOT  QUALIFIED to perform public audits? Could it have
>>>something to do with the fact that an unqualified CGA from Alberta could
>>>move to the Maritimes, and even though unqualified, could still call himself  a CGA there?
>>>
>>>As a result of all the bad publicity regarding  problem CGA's in Canada, CGA
>>>Canada is  now desperately trying to recruit new members from the ignorant
>>>in  CHINA  and the Caribbean,
>>>                           
>>>
>>>
>>>Students of accounting in CHINA and  the Caribbean,  who must pay many
>>>                                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>tens of thousands of dollars to obtain your designation, how do you feel
>>>about these "gwaliau" who got the CGA for FREE?
>>>
>>>Those of you concerned about credibility in the accounting profession are
>>>invited to respond.
>>>
>>>



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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:34:30 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
>> wrote:
>
>>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.
>
>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>
>
>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )wrote:
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>
>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>
>>>Nothing new here.
>
>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>> it is NOT!!!
>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>
>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>Canada!!!
>
>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>
>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>
>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
>Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>
>
>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>> 
>
>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>> answer??
>
>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>
>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>
>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>
>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>> who can be reached at:
>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>
>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>
>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>
>>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>
>>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>
>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>
>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>
>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>
>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>
>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the   letters?
>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>
>
>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>
>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith's butt.
>
>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>
>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>
>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>
>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars. 
>
>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>
>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>> >OyVey???
>
>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>
>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>
>
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>
>>>Check this out!
>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>letter just ask.
>
>
>> >Nizkor Funding
>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>
>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>
>>>  The League is working closely
>>>with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>incidents directly to the National Office."
>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>
>
>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>
>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>
>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>
>
>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>
>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>
>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>
>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>
>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>
>
>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>Canada!!!
>
>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>
>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>
>
>
>>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>>The Nizkor Project 
>>c/o 
>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>15 Hove Street 
>>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>
>
>>Attention:CHARITIES
>>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>
>



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:13:07 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 18:04:08 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Canadian Press report today, that this case is really making waves in
>>the Federal Court of Canada.
>>
>>The lawyer for George Harris, the businessman from Winnipeg who is
>>bringing the case against Revenue Canada, is reported as claiming that
>>the Bronfman case is threatening to corrupt public trust in the
>>Canadian tax system!!!
>>
>>The lawyer is claiming that Revenue Canada had a legal duty to apply
>>the tax, but screwed it up!!!
>>
>>No kidding!!!
>>
>>On Sat, 11 Apr 1998 00:53:45 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>
>>>Canadian Press are reporting in Canada, that a Winnipeg taxpayer is in
>>>Federal Court, concerning the illegal transfer of 2.2 BILLION by the
>>>BRONFMAN JEWS!!!
>>>
>>>In fact Revenue Canada officials had decided 12 december 1991 that the
>>>Bronfmans were supposed to pay their taxes on this money!!!
>>>
>>>George Harris, according to CP, is claiming that the Auditor general
>>>of Canada  in May 1996, exposed the fact that the JEW Bronfmans did
>>>not pay their taxes on the 2.2 Billion, thereby cheating the tax
>>>department out of " hundreds of millions of dollars"!!!
>>>
>>>Harris is fighting for the rights of all non-JEW taxpayers on this
>>>issue.
>>>
>>>He is quoted as saying, according to CP:"He will be helping to sustain
>>>public confidence in our income tax system, as well as the
>>>administration of justice generally."
>>>
>>>You said it!!!



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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:14:49 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>>Is this part of the retaliation of Cuba, for being swindled out of $12
>>millions regarding Confed Life, plus the theft by Canada Post Managers
>>of a sack full of computer programs??
>>
>>
>>Was he perhaps an Israeli MOSSAD spy, using a Canadian passport, like
>>in Jordan and elsewhere???
>>
>>On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:09:50 -0800, Peter Aspinall
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Why are we getting these messages repeated? They are bad
>>>enough the first time. Isn't there any way of stopping this
>>>incessant drivel from these fascist morons? People die when
>>>on holiday. Nobody likes it, but it is a fact of life. Deal
>>>with it. A friend of mine killed a Japanese tourist in a
>>>motor vehicle incident in Victoria, Canada - freak accident.
>>>Better put out a warning to all Japanese people: Avoid
>>>Canada!
>>>
>>>yara4609@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/
>>>> 
>>>> November 13, 1998
>>>> 
>>>> Mystery shrouds slain DND worker
>>>> 
>>>> Body unidentified in Cuban morgue for 7 months
>>>> By BRAD HUNTER -- Ottawa Sun
>>>> 
>>>>  A Department of National Defence employee was gunned down in Cuba months
>>>> ago, but his body was only identified this week.
>>
>>On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 04:21:40 -0500, "Anton Mendoza"
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On my visit to Cuba, I was told by a cab driver that the Italians murdered
>>>were involved in smuggling paitings. He said they didn't want to pay the
>>>cubans they were doing business with so they got killed.
>>>Any true in this?
>>>
>>>D. DeLuca wrote in article <01be0f5a$3e50ab60$0d825ad1@ddeluca>...
>>>
>>>>How do you know this was an innocent tourist who did no harm to anyone?  Or
>>>>the two Italians for that matter?  The fact that all three men were
>>>>murdered within a few days in the same area points to foul play IMHO.  But
>>>>the investigation will bear this out (or not).
>>>
>>>



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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:30:27 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>>Tavish II) wrote:
>>
>>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>>Communists and who they were!
>>>
>>>Look:
>>>
>>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>>
>>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>>
>>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>>Results and Prospects.
>>>
>>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>>Committee.
>>>
>>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>>revolution......
>>>
>>>Above found at:
>>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>>
>>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>>
>>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>>>said!>
>>>
>>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>>
>>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>>
>>>Try also:
>>>
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>>
>>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>>Try:
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>>
>>>which states:
>>>
>>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>>
>>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>>
>>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>Consider this:
>>>
>>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>>824-827).
>>>
>>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>>
>>>Here is the link:
>>>
>>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>You will run across this:
>>>
>>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>>
>>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>>this exhibit:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>>
>>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>>
>>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>>
>>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>>
>>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>>
>>>Footnote:
>>>
>>>The BUND:
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>>III, pp 824-827).
>>>
>>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>>
>>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>>
>>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>>                I will find all credible sites
>>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>>                Till the next installment!



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:30:27 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>>Tavish II) wrote:
>>
>>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>>Communists and who they were!
>>>
>>>Look:
>>>
>>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>>
>>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>>
>>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>>Results and Prospects.
>>>
>>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>>Committee.
>>>
>>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>>revolution......
>>>
>>>Above found at:
>>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>>
>>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>>
>>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>>>said!>
>>>
>>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>>
>>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>>
>>>Try also:
>>>
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>>
>>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>>Try:
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>>
>>>which states:
>>>
>>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>>
>>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>>
>>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>Consider this:
>>>
>>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>>824-827).
>>>
>>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>>
>>>Here is the link:
>>>
>>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>You will run across this:
>>>
>>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>>
>>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>>this exhibit:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>>
>>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>>
>>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>>
>>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>>
>>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>>
>>>Footnote:
>>>
>>>The BUND:
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>>III, pp 824-827).
>>>
>>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>>
>>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>>
>>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>>                I will find all credible sites
>>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>>                Till the next installment!



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:30:27 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>>Tavish II) wrote:
>>
>>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>>Communists and who they were!
>>>
>>>Look:
>>>
>>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>>
>>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>>
>>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>>Results and Prospects.
>>>
>>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>>Committee.
>>>
>>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>>revolution......
>>>
>>>Above found at:
>>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>>
>>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>>
>>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>>>said!>
>>>
>>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>>
>>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>>
>>>Try also:
>>>
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>>
>>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>>Try:
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>>
>>>which states:
>>>
>>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>>
>>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>>
>>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>Consider this:
>>>
>>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>>824-827).
>>>
>>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>>
>>>Here is the link:
>>>
>>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>You will run across this:
>>>
>>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>>
>>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>>this exhibit:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>>
>>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>>
>>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>>
>>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>>
>>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>>
>>>Footnote:
>>>
>>>The BUND:
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>>III, pp 824-827).
>>>
>>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>>
>>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>>
>>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>>                I will find all credible sites
>>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>>                Till the next installment!



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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:26:48 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:55 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>
>>>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>>>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>>>working for Hitler??
>>>
>>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>>> > sperati wrote:
>>>
>>>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>
>>>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>
>>>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>> > > North Shore News
>>>> > > February 2, 1997
>>>
>>>> > > Insights from abroad
>>>> > > Doug Collins
>>>
>>>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>>>
>>>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>>
>>>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>>
>>>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>>
>>>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>
>>>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>>>
>>>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> > > alive.
>>>
>>>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>>
>>>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>>
>>>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>
>>>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> > > documents in the process.
>>>
>>>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>>
>>>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>>
>>>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>
>>>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>
>>>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> > > was a Jew.
>>>
>>>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>>
>>>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>
>>>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>
>>>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>
>>>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>>>
>>>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>
>>>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> > > wonder why?
>>>
>>>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>
>>>==============================================
>>>Phillips
>>>
>>>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>>>Heydrich,
>>>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>>>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>>>thaat
>>>depended on the degree of mixture.
>>>===========
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>>>Slepokura) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>>
>>>>Orest Slepokura:
>>>
>>>>There were many instances of such collaboration. Take the case of Dr.
>>>>Joachim Prinz, a Zionist rabbi. In 1934, Dr. Prinz published a book
>>>>entiled *Wir Juden* 
>>>>(We, Jews) wherein he hailed Hitler's rise to power. Seems he viewed this as a
>>>>defeat for liberalism and, hence, a very good outcome for Jews. 
>>>
>>>>"[T]he fortunes of liberalism are lost," he wrote gleefully. "The only
>>>>form of political life which has helped Jewish assimilation is sunk." See:
>>>
>>>>The victory of Nazism ruled out assimilation and mixed marriages as an
>>>>option for Jews. Said Prinz: "We are not unhappy about this." 
>>>
>>>>His book contained a lot of unblushing praise for Nazi ideology.
>>>
>>>>Later on, Dr. Prinz emigrated to the United States, where he eventually became
>>>>a vice-chairman of the World Jewish Congress and a leading figure in the World
>>>>Zionist Organization. 
>>>
>>>>Apparently, he was also quite good friends with Golda Meir.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 9 Aug 1998 22:03:13 GMT, kaszubik@aol.com (Kaszubik) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi there,
>>>>>
Subject: Re: ZYCLON B SOLD BY JEWISH COMPANY TO NAZIS
>>>>>From: Alexander Sharon 
>>>>>Date: Sun, Aug 9, 1998 13:47 EDT
>>>>>Message-id: <35CDE0C8.511620EF@cadvision.com>
>>>
>>>>>Kaszubik wrote the truth again:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>>>> A little known fact is that a Jewish business in New York City produced
>>>>>Zyclon
>>>>>> B and sold it to Germany where it sold as a commodity. What this means is
>>>>>that
>>>>>> we have yet another example of MURDER FOR PROFIT (of their own people!). We
>>>>>> already know who murdered Jesus Christ, that can not be disputed. Let me
>>>>>ask
>>>>>> you: Why are so many Jewish doctors involved with partial-birth abortions?
>>>>>That
>>>>>> is the new Holocaust on the rest of the world. I know the holocaust took
>>>>>place,
>>>>>> I don't doubt that. It is indeed a tragic period in history for us Poles.
>>>
>>>>>It appears that another imbecile has joined the noble ranks of the town
>>>>>idiots of
>>>>>scp.
>>>
>>>>KK>Please take a deep breath and relax. I realize that the truth must be almost
>>>>too much for you to deal with. 
>>>
>>>>>Welcome aboard wanker.
>>>>>And what bothers you?
>>>>Are you trying to hide your family murky past during
>>>>>WWII by
>>>>>"exposing" Jewish attrocities?
>>>
>>>>KK> I have cousins who were murdered at Stutthof but they didn't deserve it.
>>>>The legacy and atrocities of the jews is well known already. Your reaction
>>>>clearly shows the guilt in which the jews can hardly contain and is eating away
>>>>at their minds. 
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Alexander Sharon
>>>
>>>>KK> Perhaps Aleksander Zydowicz in older times? 



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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:31:11 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>>Tavish II) wrote:

>>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>>Communists and who they were!
>>>
>>>Look:
>>>
>>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>>
>>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>>
>>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>>Results and Prospects.
>>>
>>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>>Committee.
>>>
>>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>>revolution......
>>>
>>>Above found at:
>>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>>
>>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>>
>>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>>>said!>
>>>
>>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>>
>>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>>
>>>Try also:
>>>
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>>
>>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>>Try:
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>>
>>>which states:
>>>
>>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>>
>>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>>
>>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>Consider this:
>>>
>>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>>824-827).
>>>
>>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>>
>>>Here is the link:
>>>
>>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>You will run across this:
>>>
>>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>>
>>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>>this exhibit:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>>
>>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>>
>>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>>
>>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>>
>>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>>
>>>Footnote:
>>>
>>>The BUND:
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>>III, pp 824-827).
>>>
>>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>>
>>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>>
>>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>>                I will find all credible sites
>>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>>                Till the next installment!



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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:30:27 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>>Tavish II) wrote:
>>
>>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>>Communists and who they were!
>>>
>>>Look:
>>>
>>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>>
>>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>>
>>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>>Results and Prospects.
>>>
>>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>>Committee.
>>>
>>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>>revolution......
>>>
>>>Above found at:
>>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>>
>>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>>
>>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>>>said!>
>>>
>>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>>
>>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>>
>>>Try also:
>>>
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>>
>>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>>Try:
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>>
>>>which states:
>>>
>>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>>
>>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>>
>>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>Consider this:
>>>
>>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>>824-827).
>>>
>>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>>
>>>Here is the link:
>>>
>>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>You will run across this:
>>>
>>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>>
>>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>>this exhibit:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>>
>>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>>
>>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>>
>>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>>
>>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>>
>>>Footnote:
>>>
>>>The BUND:
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>>III, pp 824-827).
>>>
>>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>>
>>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>>
>>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>>                I will find all credible sites
>>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>>                Till the next installment!



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:30:27 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>>Tavish II) wrote:
>>
>>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>>Communists and who they were!
>>>
>>>Look:
>>>
>>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>>
>>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>>
>>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>>Results and Prospects.
>>>
>>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>>Committee.
>>>
>>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>>revolution......
>>>
>>>Above found at:
>>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>>
>>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>>
>>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>>>said!>
>>>
>>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>>
>>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>>
>>>Try also:
>>>
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>>
>>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>>Try:
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>>
>>>which states:
>>>
>>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>>
>>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>>
>>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>Consider this:
>>>
>>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>>824-827).
>>>
>>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>>
>>>Here is the link:
>>>
>>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>You will run across this:
>>>
>>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>>
>>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>>this exhibit:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>>
>>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>>
>>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>>
>>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>>
>>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>>
>>>Footnote:
>>>
>>>The BUND:
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>>III, pp 824-827).
>>>
>>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>>
>>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>>
>>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>>                I will find all credible sites
>>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>>                Till the next installment!



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:30:27 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>>Tavish II) wrote:
>>
>>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>>Communists and who they were!
>>>
>>>Look:
>>>
>>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>>
>>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>>
>>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>>Results and Prospects.
>>>
>>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>>Committee.
>>>
>>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>>revolution......
>>>
>>>Above found at:
>>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>>
>>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>>
>>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>>
>>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>>up and kill Jews."
>>>
>>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>>
>>>>>said!>
>>>
>>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>>
>>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>>
>>>Try also:
>>>
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>>
>>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>>Try:
>>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>>
>>>which states:
>>>
>>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>>
>>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>>
>>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>>
>>>Consider this:
>>>
>>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>>824-827).
>>>
>>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>>
>>>Here is the link:
>>>
>>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>You will run across this:
>>>
>>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>>
>>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>>
>>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>>this exhibit:
>>>
>>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>>
>>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>>
>>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>>
>>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>>
>>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>>
>>>Footnote:
>>>
>>>The BUND:
>>>
>>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>>III, pp 824-827).
>>>
>>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>>
>>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>>
>>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>>                I will find all credible sites
>>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>>                Till the next installment!



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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 03:10:56 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com
>
>
>
>
>On 31 Oct 1998 16:30:03 GMT, Wlodzimierz Godlowski
> wrote:
>
>>igal_peacemaker@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>: ( Sory for long post. I=P)
>>
>>: First, let's think about ammount of the victims:
>>
>>: from: http://www.powerup.com.au/~dominion/ff/h15.htm
>>: “”Evidence found in  the pockets of  the victims --
>>: such  as diaries,  unsent letters  and  Soviet newspapers  -- and
>>: forensic tests  confirmed the  date.  In  all, 4,143  bodies were
>>: positively identified.””
>>
>>: So, pan RU8xx,pan Wlodzimierz Godlowski and pan Jerzy Pankiewicz
>>:  and others, we have proof ammount of the victims:
>>
>>: “”4,143 victims””
>>
>>: it is not 3000 as I wrote, but it is also not a 40 000 or 2 000 000 000
>>: as wrote some other readers.
>>
>>more then 10 000 was total number of killing from Kozielsk (only people
>>from that camp was killd in Katyn) Starobielsk and Ostaszkow (on the one 
>>decision of the soviet politbiuro.
>>2 000 000 not 2 000 000 000 it is total number of Polish Citizen Polish
>>and Judaic origin murder by Sowiet in conection with II WW.
>>You should know abut it.
>>: ========================
>>
>>: Now, we can go to discussion about political aspects.
>>: maybe another interesting fact, who found bodies of the victims:
>>
>>: <>: Katyn forests near Smolensk of  mass graves containing the bodies
>>: of  Polish  officers who  the  Germans  said were  killed  by the
>>: Soviets in the spring of 1940.>>
>>
>>Of course that Germans use it in his propaganda. They was not so stiupid
>>not do it.
>>
>>: Bodies were found by German special forces, then the  Polish
>>: government-in-exile  in  London  asked  the
>>: International Red  Cross to  investigate, the  Soviet Union broke
>>: diplomatic  relations  with  the   exiles  and  objected  to  any
>>: investigation.  Britain and the U.S.  took the Soviet side in the
>>: issue.
>>
>>: I think, that apperently happend because Lord Churchil and Mr. Rusvelt
>>:  were KGB/communists soviet jews.
>>????? Are you joking?
>>Churchil and Poosvelt was aliant of Stalin and do not want make him angry.
>>Thats enough
>>
>>
>>: Later, during the Nuremberg trial, the
>>: Soviets accused the  Germans of this  crime. But cold war began and
>>: On Dec. 22, 1952, the U.S. Congress, following an investigation by its Select
>>: Committee on the Katyn Forest Massacre, unanimously ruled that it
>>: was the Soviets who were guilty.
>>Not only U.S. Congres say that Katyn was done for Soviet. Also for example
>>International Medical Comision from non - participation country.
>>In Norymberga on the Soviet demand German was prosecute for Katyn but
>>Norymberga Court do not say that German was gilty for Katyn even Soviet
>>participated in the Court.
>>: Since  World  War  II  the  Katyn  massacre  slipped  into near-oblivion, 
>>: except in  Poland.  But  it  has resurfaced  as a result of  a joint 
>>: declaration by	Mikhail Gorbachev (great traitor of the USSR and west lackey
>>: only) and Polish leader  Gen.  Wojciech Jaruzelski  in	April 21,  1987.  The
>>: two agreed that ``blank  spots'' is Soviet-Polish  relations would be
>>: removed. 
>>
>>But Gorbahov was not agrre that Katyn was done by  Soviet. Even now a lot
>>of Soviet oficials not agree that Katyn was done by SDoviet
>>
>> Although the Soviets	committed many crimes against the Poles
>>: during and  after World War  II, Katyn remains	high on the agenda, and the
>>: joint  Soviet-Polish commission of historians has addressed it.  The  Polish
>>: side has  no doubt who	is guilty (who like former occupant), but the Soviets
>>: keep repeating the old claim to have ``no evidence to the contrary'' in their
>>: archives.  The issue remains deadlocked.  Meanwhile, the Katyn cemetery has
>>: been opened to the public -- and the  Germans are  still blamed  for the 
>>: crime (poor German Nazis - they never killed any one civilian or military
>>: unarmed Pols in WWII, hey Miecz - S³awomir and motherfacker Warr - am I wrong
>>: ? ).  However, the Soviets have  claimed about 500 Soviet POWs perished with 
>>: the Polish officers (but who is worry about it, Soviet loose Cold War and we
>>: do not belive them).
>>Nearly all my family was morder by Soviet (and a have documents that it
>>was done by Soviet) and I have a lot of friend like me. It is a lot of
>>documents that Soviet killed a lot of
>>Polish People.
>>
>> Since the end of the Second World War many facts and
>>: many legends have been built up surrounding the events or even "non-events"
>>: of that international conflict. Many stories which originated through the
>>: official and unofficial propaganda channels have become a part of the popular
>>: history of the war. From the time of the war itself, many of the propaganda
>>: claims which circulated widely were questioned by official sources. Since the
>>: late 1940's, revisionist historians have attempted to bring our official
>>: history into accord with the facts. I do not like Stalin regime, but in Katyn
>>: story last word was not wrote yet.
>>
>>It is lie like that "it was only fee Jeavs killed diurin holocaust.
>>In Poland You could be prosecute for it.
>>My Grand Father was murde in Katyn  and I am very interested in the
>>subject of Katyn.
>>
>>: Documents:
>>
>>: KATYN FOREST MASSACRE
>>
>>:       THE CLAIM:
>>: Nuremberg Document 054-USSR. Report by a Special
>>:  Soviet Commission, 24 January 1944, concerning the
>>:  shooting of Polish officer prisoners of war in the forest of
>>:  Katyn. The executions had been carried out in autumn 1941
>>:  by the German "Staff of the Construction Battalion 537". In
>>:  spring 1943 the Germans, by blackmailing witnesses into
>>:  giving false evidence and by other means, had tried to make
>>:  it appear that the Soviet NKVD was responsible for the
>>:  shooting of the 11,000 victims.
>>It is a lot of provement that it is lie (even documents Soviet Politbiuro-
>>used by Russian Supreme Court durin proces for delegalization of the
>>Comunist Pary  after Janayew take over. That documents was also publish in
>>Poland (and as I know in the west too).
>>
>>: (as I proofbefore only 4,143  bodies were found and all were
>>: positively identified. I=P)
>>
>>: THE REVISIONS:
>>
>>:  "This committee unanimously finds... that the Soviet NKVD
>>:  committed the mass murders of the Polish officers and
>>:  intellectual leaders in the Katyn Forest... there has not
>>:  been... even any remote circumstantial evidence presented
>>:  that could indict any other nation in this international crime.
>>:  It is an established fact that approximately 15,000 Polish
>>:  prisoners were interned in three Soviet camps: Kozielsk,
>>:  Starobielsk, and Ostashkov in the winter of 1939-40. With
>>:  the exception of 400 prisoners, these men have not been
>>:  heard from... since the spring of 1940...."
>>: ===
>>:  U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee to
>>:  Investigate the Facts, The Katyn Forest Massacre:
>>:  Final Report. Issued 22 December 1952.
>>
>>: ( I can belive that from Stalin camps “these men have not been
>>:    heard from... since the spring of 1940....", 20 000 000 000 were killed in
>>: GULAG, but not because they were Pols, Jews or Russin - no, because they were
>>: HUMANs and Stalin do not like HUMANs)
>>
>>According Mr Chruszczow Report Stalin was killed 60 000 000 milion of
>>people (including meny Jews) partialy becous he give represion agains
>>human but often becouse thay murder people becouse of nationality
>>(aspecialy 
>>Polish, Ukrainien, Czeczenien )
>>
>>: In all cases innocent victims are unforgetable, but we have to know what kind
>>: of games politics play. Now Poland like German and do not like Russian, what
>>: the time will be after 40 years???
>>
>>I like Rusian as people and have Russian friends (and Germent friends
>>also) but it is a different that even in that moment german vwas danger
>>for Poland. Morower Germen was mostly prosecuted for his criminals 
>>Russian not.
>>
>>: I=P
>>
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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:39:08 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:53:01 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 03:10:56 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com
>
>
>
>
>On 31 Oct 1998 16:30:03 GMT, Wlodzimierz Godlowski
> wrote:
>
>>igal_peacemaker@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>>: ( Sory for long post. I=P)
>>
>>: First, let's think about ammount of the victims:
>>
>>: from: http://www.powerup.com.au/~dominion/ff/h15.htm
>>: “”Evidence found in  the pockets of  the victims --
>>: such  as diaries,  unsent letters  and  Soviet newspapers  -- and
>>: forensic tests  confirmed the  date.  In  all, 4,143  bodies were
>>: positively identified.””
>>
>>: So, pan RU8xx,pan Wlodzimierz Godlowski and pan Jerzy Pankiewicz
>>:  and others, we have proof ammount of the victims:
>>
>>: “”4,143 victims””
>>
>>: it is not 3000 as I wrote, but it is also not a 40 000 or 2 000 000 000
>>: as wrote some other readers.
>>
>>more then 10 000 was total number of killing from Kozielsk (only people
>>from that camp was killd in Katyn) Starobielsk and Ostaszkow (on the one 
>>decision of the soviet politbiuro.
>>2 000 000 not 2 000 000 000 it is total number of Polish Citizen Polish
>>and Judaic origin murder by Sowiet in conection with II WW.
>>You should know abut it.
>>: ========================
>>
>>: Now, we can go to discussion about political aspects.
>>: maybe another interesting fact, who found bodies of the victims:
>>
>>: <>: Katyn forests near Smolensk of  mass graves containing the bodies
>>: of  Polish  officers who  the  Germans  said were  killed  by the
>>: Soviets in the spring of 1940.>>
>>
>>Of course that Germans use it in his propaganda. They was not so stiupid
>>not do it.
>>
>>: Bodies were found by German special forces, then the  Polish
>>: government-in-exile  in  London  asked  the
>>: International Red  Cross to  investigate, the  Soviet Union broke
>>: diplomatic  relations  with  the   exiles  and  objected  to  any
>>: investigation.  Britain and the U.S.  took the Soviet side in the
>>: issue.
>>
>>: I think, that apperently happend because Lord Churchil and Mr. Rusvelt
>>:  were KGB/communists soviet jews.
>>????? Are you joking?
>>Churchil and Poosvelt was aliant of Stalin and do not want make him angry.
>>Thats enough
>>
>>
>>: Later, during the Nuremberg trial, the
>>: Soviets accused the  Germans of this  crime. But cold war began and
>>: On Dec. 22, 1952, the U.S. Congress, following an investigation by its Select
>>: Committee on the Katyn Forest Massacre, unanimously ruled that it
>>: was the Soviets who were guilty.
>>Not only U.S. Congres say that Katyn was done for Soviet. Also for example
>>International Medical Comision from non - participation country.
>>In Norymberga on the Soviet demand German was prosecute for Katyn but
>>Norymberga Court do not say that German was gilty for Katyn even Soviet
>>participated in the Court.
>>: Since  World  War  II  the  Katyn  massacre  slipped  into near-oblivion, 
>>: except in  Poland.  But  it  has resurfaced  as a result of  a joint 
>>: declaration by	Mikhail Gorbachev (great traitor of the USSR and west lackey
>>: only) and Polish leader  Gen.  Wojciech Jaruzelski  in	April 21,  1987.  The
>>: two agreed that ``blank  spots'' is Soviet-Polish  relations would be
>>: removed. 
>>
>>But Gorbahov was not agrre that Katyn was done by  Soviet. Even now a lot
>>of Soviet oficials not agree that Katyn was done by SDoviet
>>
>> Although the Soviets	committed many crimes against the Poles
>>: during and  after World War  II, Katyn remains	high on the agenda, and the
>>: joint  Soviet-Polish commission of historians has addressed it.  The  Polish
>>: side has  no doubt who	is guilty (who like former occupant), but the Soviets
>>: keep repeating the old claim to have ``no evidence to the contrary'' in their
>>: archives.  The issue remains deadlocked.  Meanwhile, the Katyn cemetery has
>>: been opened to the public -- and the  Germans are  still blamed  for the 
>>: crime (poor German Nazis - they never killed any one civilian or military
>>: unarmed Pols in WWII, hey Miecz - S³awomir and motherfacker Warr - am I wrong
>>: ? ).  However, the Soviets have  claimed about 500 Soviet POWs perished with 
>>: the Polish officers (but who is worry about it, Soviet loose Cold War and we
>>: do not belive them).
>>Nearly all my family was morder by Soviet (and a have documents that it
>>was done by Soviet) and I have a lot of friend like me. It is a lot of
>>documents that Soviet killed a lot of
>>Polish People.
>>
>> Since the end of the Second World War many facts and
>>: many legends have been built up surrounding the events or even "non-events"
>>: of that international conflict. Many stories which originated through the
>>: official and unofficial propaganda channels have become a part of the popular
>>: history of the war. From the time of the war itself, many of the propaganda
>>: claims which circulated widely were questioned by official sources. Since the
>>: late 1940's, revisionist historians have attempted to bring our official
>>: history into accord with the facts. I do not like Stalin regime, but in Katyn
>>: story last word was not wrote yet.
>>
>>It is lie like that "it was only fee Jeavs killed diurin holocaust.
>>In Poland You could be prosecute for it.
>>My Grand Father was murde in Katyn  and I am very interested in the
>>subject of Katyn.
>>
>>: Documents:
>>
>>: KATYN FOREST MASSACRE
>>
>>:       THE CLAIM:
>>: Nuremberg Document 054-USSR. Report by a Special
>>:  Soviet Commission, 24 January 1944, concerning the
>>:  shooting of Polish officer prisoners of war in the forest of
>>:  Katyn. The executions had been carried out in autumn 1941
>>:  by the German "Staff of the Construction Battalion 537". In
>>:  spring 1943 the Germans, by blackmailing witnesses into
>>:  giving false evidence and by other means, had tried to make
>>:  it appear that the Soviet NKVD was responsible for the
>>:  shooting of the 11,000 victims.
>>It is a lot of provement that it is lie (even documents Soviet Politbiuro-
>>used by Russian Supreme Court durin proces for delegalization of the
>>Comunist Pary  after Janayew take over. That documents was also publish in
>>Poland (and as I know in the west too).
>>
>>: (as I proofbefore only 4,143  bodies were found and all were
>>: positively identified. I=P)
>>
>>: THE REVISIONS:
>>
>>:  "This committee unanimously finds... that the Soviet NKVD
>>:  committed the mass murders of the Polish officers and
>>:  intellectual leaders in the Katyn Forest... there has not
>>:  been... even any remote circumstantial evidence presented
>>:  that could indict any other nation in this international crime.
>>:  It is an established fact that approximately 15,000 Polish
>>:  prisoners were interned in three Soviet camps: Kozielsk,
>>:  Starobielsk, and Ostashkov in the winter of 1939-40. With
>>:  the exception of 400 prisoners, these men have not been
>>:  heard from... since the spring of 1940...."
>>: ===
>>:  U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee to
>>:  Investigate the Facts, The Katyn Forest Massacre:
>>:  Final Report. Issued 22 December 1952.
>>
>>: ( I can belive that from Stalin camps “these men have not been
>>:    heard from... since the spring of 1940....", 20 000 000 000 were killed in
>>: GULAG, but not because they were Pols, Jews or Russin - no, because they were
>>: HUMANs and Stalin do not like HUMANs)
>>
>>According Mr Chruszczow Report Stalin was killed 60 000 000 milion of
>>people (including meny Jews) partialy becous he give represion agains
>>human but often becouse thay murder people becouse of nationality
>>(aspecialy 
>>Polish, Ukrainien, Czeczenien )
>>
>>: In all cases innocent victims are unforgetable, but we have to know what kind
>>: of games politics play. Now Poland like German and do not like Russian, what
>>: the time will be after 40 years???
>>
>>I like Rusian as people and have Russian friends (and Germent friends
>>also) but it is a different that even in that moment german vwas danger
>>for Poland. Morower Germen was mostly prosecuted for his criminals 
>>Russian not.
>>
>>: I=P
>>
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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:26:48 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:55 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:13:27 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>
>>>Is this any more different than the documented fact that 300,000 JEWS
>>>were involved with the Wehrmacht, up to and including JEW generals,
>>>working for Hitler??
>>>
>>>jacob bekker wrote:
>>>> odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>>>> > sperati wrote:
>>>
>>>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> > > Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>>> > > From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>>> > > Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>>
>>>> > > From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>>> > > that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>>> > > ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>>> > > group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>>
>>>> > > The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>>> > > titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>>> > > appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>>> > > to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>>> > > >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>> > > North Shore News
>>>> > > February 2, 1997
>>>
>>>> > > Insights from abroad
>>>> > > Doug Collins
>>>
>>>> > > TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>>> > > that is ignored in Canada.
>>>
>>>> > > When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>>> > > served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>>
>>>> > > The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>>> > > about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>>
>>>> > > There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>>> > > was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>>> > > transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>>
>>>> > > At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>>> > > married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>>> > > generals, and 23 colonels.
>>>
>>>> > > Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>>> > > Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>>> > > more. The research is continuing.
>>>
>>>> > > Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>>> > > in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>>> > > alive.
>>>
>>>> > > Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>>> > > father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>>
>>>> > > Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>>> > > whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>>
>>>> > > A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>>> > > the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>>
>>>> > > The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>>> > > Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>>> > > he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>>> > > and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>>> > > documents in the process.
>>>
>>>> > > The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>>> > > Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>>> > > could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>>> > > A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>>> > > the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>>
>>>> > > He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>>> > > about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>>> > > ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>>
>>>> > > Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>>> > > used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>>> > > Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>>> > > what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>>
>>>> > > British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>>> > > international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>>> > > produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>>> > > Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>>
>>>> > > Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>>> > > Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>>> > > was a Jew.
>>>
>>>> > > Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>>
>>>> > > As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>>> > > full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>>> > > one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>>
>>>> > > But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>>> > > Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>>
>>>> > > As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>>> > > knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>>> > > term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>>
>>>> > > A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>>
>>>> > > After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>>> > > the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>>> > > Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>>> > > Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>>> > > plotting against Hitler.
>>>
>>>> > > The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>>> > > and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>>> > > and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>>> > > to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>>
>>>> > > All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>>> > > able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>>> > > wonder why?
>>>
>>>> > > ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>>> > > right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>>> > > the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>>> > > necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>>
>>>> > If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>>> > definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>>> > their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!
>>>
>>>==============================================
>>>Phillips
>>>
>>>There is one very significant omission: I believe that Reinhard
>>>Heydrich,
>>>head of the SD (intelligence arm of the SS) was partly Jewish. As you
>>>said, there were complex rules pertaining to persons of mixed race
>>>thaat
>>>depended on the degree of mixture.
>>>===========
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, 27 Jun 1998 21:13:54 -0600, slepokuo@cadvision.com (Orest
>>>Slepokura) wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article <898579884snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>>>> In article <358ea2c7.30351215@news.erols.com>
>>>>>            davic@erols.com "David Goldman" writes:
>>>>> > >> The people who collaborated with the Nazis were the Arabs.. Remember the
>>>>> > >> mufti of Jerusalem.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Nazi Zionist collaboration is thoroughly documented; there was an article
>>>>> in about 1980 in History Today (I've got it somewhere) by a Jewish historian
>>>>> Jacob Boas which covered the Nazi sponsorship of a Zionist expedition to
>>>>> Palestine; there was a special medal struck which had a swastika on one
>>>>> side and a Magan David on the other. It appears that the Nazis changed their
>>>>> mind with typical pragmatic hypocrisy when they needed Arab support come the
>>>>> war, although there is no doubt that there was a genuine friendship between
>>>>> the Arab nationalists and the National Socialists.
>>>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>>
>>>>Orest Slepokura:
>>>
>>>>There were many instances of such collaborat