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On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:54:23 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 05:38:17 GMT, nails@pacific.net.SPAMMERSDIE.sg
>(Ken!!!) wrote:
>>there are idiot jews and there are idiot anti-jews...
>>
>>what is scary is the number if idiots willing to listen to these 2
>>factions of idiots and promote violence...
>
>
>>On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:11:56 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>>Those who wish to support the Christkillers, the cursed JEWS, also
>>>wish to rewrite history.
>
>>>They do not want the present survivors around the world to remember
>>>that 100 million have been killed in the last 80 years by the JEW-led
>>>communists!! This is well documented in the recently released book in
>>>France.
>
>Quite apart from the more than 30 million people massacred by the
>JEW-led soviets in the 1930's in the Ukraine.


>From someone@somewhere.com Thu Nov 13 07:29:56 1997

Subject: OyVay Admits JEW COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!


The key reason OyVay and NAZIKOR/NIZKOR refuse to discuss the 66
Questions about the HOLOHOAX, is because they must hide the truth
about the more than 100 MILLIONS the JEW-led communists have murdered,
in less than 80 years!!!!


On 12 Nov 1997 01:51:13 GMT, rwhita8200@aol.com (RWhita8200) wrote:

>>Subject: COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>>From: alangrist@aol.com (ALAN GRIST)
>>Date: Mon, Nov 10, 1997 18:15 EST

>>French writers row over "communism killed l00m" claim
>>            FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN PARIS

>>A BOOK by a team of French historians,  described  as  the
>>first global accounting of the victims of communism, has
>>estimated that in this century Communist dictators, regimes
>>and  movements  have been responsible for the deaths of
>>up to 100 million people.

>> The 850-page Black Book of Communism - Crimes, Terror  
>>and  Repression,  by  11 senior French researchers and
>>published  to  coincide  with yesterday's 80th anniversary
>>of the Bolshevik Revolution, has triggered a fresh ideologi-
>>cal battle.

>>The writers have come up with  a  final  estimate  that
>>communism claimed about 65 million  lives  in  China,  20
>>million in the Soviet Union, two million in Cambodia, two
>>million in North Korea,  1.7 Million in Africa, one million
>>in  Vietnam,  one million in Eastern Europe and 150,000 in
>>South America. 

>>In a polemical introduction, Stephane Courtois, the chief
>>editor and co-ordinator of the project,  argued  that  mass 
>>murder and terror have been central characteristics of com-
>>munism. "The facts are stubborn," he writes. "They show that 
>>the Communist regimes committed crimes against   about  100  million
>>people, compared to about 25 million for the Nazis."   
>> Some of M Courtois's fellow authors  however, have taken
>>issue  both  with his  highly charged conclusions and with

>   But there's no MONEY in these victims of Communism, so who cares?
>
>Bob Whitaker


And do not ever FORGET, that the communists were mainly damn JEWS!!!!





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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:14:15 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>Another JEW Rabbi in NY state has been caught  dealing drugs - this
>time inside a prison!!!
>
>Rabbi Eli Gottesman,a chaplain at a federal medium security prison at
>Ray Brook, NY got caught with a large bottle filled with sealed
>balloons of cocaine and marijuana.
>
>He is a former head of the "who's Who in canadian Jewry", and has been
>a chaplain of the year named by the NY Board of rabbis.
>
>
>
>On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 13:52:54 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>>Christ.
>
>>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>>business.
>>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>
>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>
>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>launder  and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian
>narcotics dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a
>synagogue and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 
>
>The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>together a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
>representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 
>
> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>Colombian drug lords. 
>
>"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
>Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>announcing the charges. 
>
>Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 
>
>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 
>
>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>court-authorize wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint
>charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by
>taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a
>synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting commissions,
>writing checks to drug traffickers. 
>
>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>
>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 
>
>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>Shel Shulem. 
>
>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
>Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
>Family of Mexico Building." 
>
>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>named in the federal complaint. 
>
>The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>officials said. 
>
>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
>conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 
>
>Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
>have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>launder. 
>
>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>
>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>Shulem.
>
>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
>out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
>the federal complaint said. 
>
>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 
>
>Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
>drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
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On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:47:49 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>>
>>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>>
>>
>>>Clancy wrote:
>>
>>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>>
>>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>>
>>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>>
>>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>>> the murderer).
>>
>>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>>> sentiment.
>>
>>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
>> 
>>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>>
>>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
>> 
>>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>>
>>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>>
>>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
>> 
>>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>>> Police.
>>
>>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>>> peasants in Spain.
>> 
>>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>>
>>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>>
>>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
>> 
>>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>>> Meadow).
>>
>>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>>> Julius Rosenwald.
>> 
>>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>>
>>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
>> 
>>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
>> 
>>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>>> member of the Central Committee.
>>
>>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
>> 
>>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
>> 
>>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
>> 
>>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
>> 
>>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
>> 
>>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
>> 
>>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
>> 
>>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>>> LEON KASMAN,
>> 
>>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
>> 
>>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
>> 
>>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>>> raised.
>> 
>>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
>> 
>>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
>> 
>>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
>> 
>>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
>> 
>>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>>> 1992).
>> 
>>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
>> 
>>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
>> 
>>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
>> 
>>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
>> 
>>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
>> 
>>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>>      world-wide social revolution."
>> 
>>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
>> 
>>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
>> 
>>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
>> 
>>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
>> 
>>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
>> 
>>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
>> 
>>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
>> 
>>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>>> 414 New York (1937):
>> 
>>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
>> 
>>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
>> 
>>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>>      Judaism."
>> 
>>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>>
>>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>>
>>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
>> 
>>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
>> 
>>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
>> 
>>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>>      executioners."
>>
>>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>>
>>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
>> 
>>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
>> 
>>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>>> Jewesses.
>>
>>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
>> 
>>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>>> people."
>>
>>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
>> 
>>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
>> 
>>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
>> 
>>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
>> 
>>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
>> 
>>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
>> 
>>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>>
>>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>>> government-funded."
>>
>>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
>> 
>>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>> 
>>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).



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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:34:30 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
>> wrote:
>
>>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.
>
>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>
>
>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )wrote:
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>
>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>
>>>Nothing new here.
>
>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>> it is NOT!!!
>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>
>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>Canada!!!
>
>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>
>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>
>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
>Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>
>
>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>> 
>
>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>> answer??
>
>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>
>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>
>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>
>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>> who can be reached at:
>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>
>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>
>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>
>>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>
>>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>
>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>
>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>
>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>
>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>
>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the   letters?
>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>
>
>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>
>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith's butt.
>
>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>
>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>
>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>
>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars. 
>
>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>
>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>> >OyVey???
>
>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>
>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>
>
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>
>>>Check this out!
>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>letter just ask.
>
>
>> >Nizkor Funding
>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>
>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>
>>>  The League is working closely
>>>with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>incidents directly to the National Office."
>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>
>
>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>
>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>
>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>
>
>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>
>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>
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>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>Canada!!!
>
>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>
>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>
>
>
>>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>>The Nizkor Project 
>>c/o 
>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>15 Hove Street 
>>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>
>
>>Attention:CHARITIES
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>
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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:16:34 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>Tavish II) wrote:
>
>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>Communists and who they were!
>>
>>Look:
>>
>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>
>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>
>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>Results and Prospects.
>>
>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>Committee.
>>
>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>revolution......
>>
>>Above found at:
>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>
>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>
>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>
>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>up and kill Jews."
>>
>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>
>>>said!>
>>
>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>
>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>
>>Try also:
>>
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>
>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>Try:
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>
>>which states:
>>
>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>
>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>
>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>>Consider this:
>>
>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>824-827).
>>
>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>
>>Here is the link:
>>
>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>You will run across this:
>>
>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>
>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>this exhibit:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>
>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>
>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>
>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>
>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>
>>Footnote:
>>
>>The BUND:
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>III, pp 824-827).
>>
>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>
>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>
>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>                I will find all credible sites
>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>                Till the next installment!



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:12:49 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 20:55:45 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 11 Oct 1997 06:43:56 GMT, WilliamWallace@freedom.org (William
>>Wallace) wrote:
>>
>>>On 5 Oct 1997 23:41:26 GMT, "Wolfgang Klotz"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>this seems to me a quite typical example of relaying to documented facts
>>>>with a wrong interpretation.  in serious documents means
>>>>WWI, when a lot of German Jews fought in the German army, because after
>>>>some decennies of integration and assimilation they felt themselves as
>>>>Germans and Jews. I'm not argueing about those aspects of assimilation,
>>>>which is a difficult question for its own. But it's a nonsens to say, that
>>>> were collabotators to the Nazis, because
>>>>they joined the Germna army between 1914 and 1920. Soon after the nazis had
>>>>come to power the Jews in Germany were not even allowed to keep any animals
>>>>at home or to get a driving license. Not to speak about joining the
>>>>glorious Wehrmacht. So whoever wrote this strange thesis should recognize,
>>>>that German Jews weren't allowed to join the Wehrmacht, even if theo wanted
>>>>to collaborate.
>>>
>>>	It was less than a year ago that 77 senior members of the
>>>Wehrmacht including a Field Marshal were identified as being jewish.
>>>This was during WW II. So far as I am aware no one has made a similar
>>>determination of the number of junior officers and enlisted men. 
>>>
>>>	I would suggest you learn what you are talking about before you
>>>make posts like this. 
>>>
>>>=====
>>>Remember to delete alt.revisionism from the newsgroups. Sneaky Jews keep adding it
>>>or making alt.revisionism the only follow up newsgroup. See how sneaky they are? 



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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:34:25 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>>On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, "William Hubbard" 
>>wrote:
>
>>>Strakitch tye golevo!
>
>>Should be shta allah aboukir!!!
>
>>>bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote in article
>>><35ff8fb8.1840244@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote: 
>>>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, "Fenian" < fenian@hibernian.com> wrote:
>>>> >>morgan@shamrock.com wrote in article
>>><35995802.2904819@news.nucleus.com>...
>>>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>
>>>> >>> >>> Shouldn't the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>>>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the swine???
>
>>>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower than
>>>> >>> >the feces of swine.
>
>>>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>>>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>>>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!
>
>>>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being conducted
>>>> >>> in the Temples.
>



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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:19:03 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, white_guy88@hotmail.com (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>      I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>>      However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>>      people.
>>>>      No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>>      They come illegally into Israel.
>>>>       Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>>                                            irgun43
>
>>>   Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don't
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand. 
>
>>> "They come illegally ..."  Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel,  and although brothels are 
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach. 
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn't appear to be the case
>>> in Israel. 
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
>
>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it's host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it's too late!
> 



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On Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:53:56 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>Naturally all the JEWS, their commie supporters, and the subhumans
>just do not want YOU to think about what they have done over the past
>2000 years!!!
>
>They do not want you to remember that more than 100 millions were
>killed because of the JEW run commies!!!
>
>
>On Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:46:07 -0700, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>John Morris babled from his university ivory tower, at taxpayer expense
>>of course:
>
>>> "Richard G. Phillips"  wrote:
> 
>>> >The phrase "anti-Semitic" is used as (and understood to be) an
>>> >accusation. And  yet why should it be? There is nothing about being
>>> >anti-Semitic that is in the slightest degree inconsistent with being of
>>> >good character or with being a patriotic citizen.
>
>>> Unless, of course, being a patriot means agreeing to certain
>>> foundational principles such as this:
> 
>>>    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are
>>>    created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with
>>>    certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life,
>>>    Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
>
>
>
>>Pity this expression was not used by the cursed JEWS 2000 years ago, 
>>when they arranged for Jesus Christ to be murdered!!!!
>
>>More recently, the JEWS who established modern communism did not 
>>believe in the concepts, except for themselves!!!
>
>
>>> >The second puzzling thing I find is that it is somehow regarded as an
>>> >aberration, as a deviation from the norm. Hardly so. Anti-semitism comes
>>> >as naturally to the ordinary man as does the missionary position in sex.
> 
>>> >Is it curable? Yes, but the cure lies entirely in the hands of its
>>> >targets and in their hands alone. To my Jewish fellow-citizens, I say
>>> >this: If you are serious about eliminating (or at least ameliorating)
>>> >anti-Semitic sentiment, then you must make a supreme effort to cure
>>> >yourselves of the Disease of Your Race: you talk too much.
>
>
>>Apologise for the killing of Christ!!
>
>>Apologise for the hundreds of millions murdered in eastern Europe, 
>>by and for the JEW led Soviets!!!



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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:16:44 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 12:00:33 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>In view of the well documented fact that almost half of the 600,000 JEWS
>>in Germany prior to WWII were then in the German military, onemust
>>consider whether these JEWS working for Hitler, were in fact a positive
>>role model???
>>
>>
>>
>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> 
>>> Positive Jewish role models
>>> 
>>> Alan Silver.. wrote:
>>> >
>>> > once again, your point is extremely obscure, and irrelevant.  Whatever
>>> > collaboration there may have been, even if it was entirely voluntary, does
>>> > not for an instant excuse the crimes of the nazis and their collaborators
>>> > -- crimes against Jews or Poles or others they used as slave labor, or
>>> > whatever.
>>> =========
>>> Dear Alan,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your email.  I am posting your letter, while removing your
>>> signature.
>>> 
>>> You are absolutely correct on the collaboration of Jews with the Nazis.
>>> Yes, it is hardly significant.  The fact that some Jews collaborated and
>>> were bad (or HORRIBLY BAD) is the favorite argument of anti-Semites.
>>> Sure there were BAD Jews but perhaps in equal numbers BAD Poles
>>> Ukrainians and Germans.  We use the above factual anti-Semitic argument
>>> very infrequently, since we are not anti-Semites.
>>> 
>>> actually, we are true philo-Semite, who LOVE Jewish culture, tradition
>>> and admire Jewish achievements world over.  (And yes I am jelous of it
>>> in a benign manner, like I am jelous of my billionaire neighbors here in
>>> Greenwich while I can not afford to buy a house.)
>>> 
>>> Out of this admiration (of even Jewish kitchen i.e. sweets) I feel that
>>> Jews should be warned about their pathological dependece on fictitious
>>> martyrology.  The myth of Massada has been debunked about two years ago
>>> by Israeli archeologists.  It is about the time that the mythical parts
>>> of the WW II Holocasut should be also debunked, especially those which
>>> defame Poles and Ukrainians of whom 2,000 lost lives for hiding and
>>> helping Jews.
>>> 
>>> Thus it is important to find the first and subsequent mass graves and
>>> bones of the 4,000,000 Jews Nazi did not have the time to cremate.
>>> 
>>> Thus it is important that Jews LOUDLY refute that in Yedvabne Polish
>>> boys decapitated Jewish maidens in July 1941 and used their heads to
>>> play soccer and their parents burned alive 1,600 of the Yedvabne Jews in
>>> a barn on July 11, 19941.
>>> 
>>> Equally imoportant is to prove and refute the fact that Poles killed
>>> 42-70 Jews in 1946 in Kielce or 5,000 during 1945-1946 throught Poland.
>>> 
>>> Simultaneously we attempt to convince you to raise your youth on the
>>> countless positive Jewish role models starting from B. Spoinoza and many
>>> many others.  My favorites are Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan and perhaps Y.
>>> Rubin.
>>> ------------
>>> Jozef pawlikowski
>>> 
>>> >
>>> > ----------
>>> > > From: PAWLIKOWSKI 
>>> > > Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish; soc.culture.jewish; soc.culture.russian
>>> > > Subject: Re: Jewish police zyd. Ordnungdienst
>>> > > Date: September 30, 1997 11:35 AM
>>> > >
>>> > > Rostyk Lewyckyj wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > In article <342291F3.2133@mindspring.com>,  
>>> > wrote:
>>> > > > |
>>> > > > |PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> > > > |> On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in
>>> > which
>>> > > > |> service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.
>>> > Their
>>> > > > |> emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of
>>> > these
>>> > > > |> Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18%
>>> > with
>>> > > > |> post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>> > > > |> education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war
>>> > questionaries.
>>> > > > |>
>>> > > > |> But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>> > > > |> Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page
>>> > 489
>>> > > > |> of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>> > > > |> journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were
>>> > fired
>>> > > > |> from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>> > > > |> closed.
>>> > > > |
>>> > > > |The service was voluntary. Take the job and keep your life a little
>>> > > > |longer or die now!
>>> > > >
>>> > > >   Herman
>>> > > >   Will you allow the same explanation when it is used by a Ukrainian,
>>> > Polack,
>>> > > >   Balt or other untermensh who was made to serve as a policeman or camp
>>> > > >   guard for the Nazis in the Reich? I believe that the USA, Canadian,
>>> > and
>>> > > >   other countries immigration services are urged by the Jewish
>>> > community
>>> > > >   not to accept this explanation and to persecute such individuals,
>>> > unless
>>> > > >   they happen to be jews.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > |Pawlikowski forgot how the Soviets were conscripted. Under Stalin they
>>> > > > |ran to enlist hoping to avoid being killed in the next "relocation"!
>>> > > >
>>> > > > |> While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>> > > > |> intelligentia clamored for the police work.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > |> Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>> > > > |> description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place
>>> > in
>>> > > > |> Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly
>>> > in
>>> > > > |> Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching
>>> > behind
>>> > > > |> three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols
>>> > facing
>>> > > > |> Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced
>>> > into
>>> > > > |> the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>> > > > |>
>>> > > >   What if anything does the commentary accompanying this film, (surely
>>> > > >   there is a commentary?), say about these policemen? Does it label
>>> > them
>>> > > >   with any nationality?
>>> > > >
>>> > > >   --Rostyk
>>> > > ===============
>>> > > to get the sound track one would have to purchase copy of the film.
>>> > > Research costs $$$.  Would you donate $50.00 to this purchase for
>>> > > starters.
>>> > >
>>> > > There is little doubt that these were Jews hanging Jews.  I can make out
>>> > > stars of David on their armbands
>>> > > ----------
>>> > > J



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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:34:30 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
>> wrote:
>
>>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.
>
>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>
>
>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )wrote:
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>
>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>
>>>Nothing new here.
>
>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>> it is NOT!!!
>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>
>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>Canada!!!
>
>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>
>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>
>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
>Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>
>
>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>> 
>
>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>> answer??
>
>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>
>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>
>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>
>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>> who can be reached at:
>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>
>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>
>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>
>>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>
>>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>
>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>
>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>
>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>
>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>
>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the   letters?
>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>
>
>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>
>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith's butt.
>
>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>
>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>
>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>
>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars. 
>
>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>
>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>> >OyVey???
>
>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>
>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>
>
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>
>>>Check this out!
>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>letter just ask.
>
>
>> >Nizkor Funding
>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>
>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>
>>>  The League is working closely
>>>with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>incidents directly to the National Office."
>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>
>
>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>
>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>
>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>
>
>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>
>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>
>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>
>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>
>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>
>
>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>Canada!!!
>
>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>
>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>
>
>
>>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>>The Nizkor Project 
>>c/o 
>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>15 Hove Street 
>>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>
>
>>Attention:CHARITIES
>>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>
>



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:13:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>>>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>>>> answer??
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>>>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>>>>> >               letters?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>>>>
>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with 'loan' grants or
>>>>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>>>>> >their way into White America's good nature and generousity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >NO MORE!  The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>>>>
>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>>>>sven88



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On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:43:10 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>Dr.Mahathir, the President of Malaysia seemed to not only know about
>what he spoke, but documented his findings most adequately.
>
>It seems that the Jew irgun doesn't even remember that the Jew now
>calling himself Soros was one of the key people responsible for the
>massive devaluation of S.E.Asian currencies last year, caused by
>speculators!!!
>
>Mind you, since Malaysia is also a supporter of Islam, perhaps Dr.
>Mahathir could also have been referring to the Q'Ana massacre where
>the Israelis murdered not only innocent civilians, but even killed UN
>troops??
>
>Perhaps critics and supporters should detail which part of the
>original article they are discussing.
>
>Ad hominem comments add nothing to considered discussion.
>
>On 9 Oct 1997 01:39:04 GMT, dh435@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kenneth Tan)
>wrote:
>
>>I applaud Mahathir's bold stand against the money speculators
>>and abusive foreign press. He is the only man in Asia brave
>>enough to show the world how smaller countries are victimised
>>by these people backed by their powerful western countries.
>
>>MIGHT MAKES RIGHT is what these western countries believe in.
>>As long as you have the muscle, anything you do is right.
>>They can suck 40 years for blood and sweat out of Malaysia's
>>economy within a week. They call it "free-market" just because
>>they make laws that allow them to do it. Anybody with any
>>conscience can see this is totally immoral, except the western
>>powers where their laws make it totally moral and laudable.
>
>>MIGHT MAKES RIGHT is how the western powers make laws to let
>>them do anything they want with a happy conscience. Only now
>>has anyone tried to stand up to them, and that man is Mahathir.
>>Sure the western blood suckers can use their laws and their
>>stolen money to punish Mahathir and Malaysia, but what Mahathir
>>is doing is the only way to bring conscience to the world. Make
>>the rest of the world see how unscruplous these western powers
>>are.
>
>>Give your support to Mahathir, let him know he is not fighting
>>the battle alone. The blood sucking western powers can bleed
>>Malaysia dry, but they cannot kill the spirit of the people. 
>>kt
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:52:34 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>omerta@casanostra.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Perhaps this previous article should be further discussed??
>>> 
>>> PM Mahathir at least is not afraid of International Jewry!!
>>> 
>>  
>>   The above was posted by a racist.
>>   The Malysian Prime Minister wouldn't know aN Israeli or Jew even if
>>one bit him in the ass. It is this type of ignorance, this type of easy
>>hateful propaganda that has kept Malysia backward. 
>>   Forward Malaysia to the 11th century!
>>                         irgun43



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:46:32 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Apr 1998 15:50:56 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>>
>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>>
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C>, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America interested in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>>
>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>
>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>
>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>
>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>
>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>
>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>Canada!!!
>>
>>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>>
>>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>>
>>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is 
>>Special Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>>
>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>> 
>>
>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>> answer??
>>
>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>
>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>
>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>
>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>
>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>
>>
>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>>
>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>>
>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>>
>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>
>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>
>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>
>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>
>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>
>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>> >               letters?
>>
>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>
>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>
>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>
>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>
>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>
>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>
>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>
>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>
>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>
>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>
>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>> >OyVey???
>>
>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>
>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>
>>>> >Check this out!
>>
>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>letter just ask.
>>
>>
>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>
>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>
>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>
>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>
>>
>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>
>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>
>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>
>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>
>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>
>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>
>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>>
>>
>>>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>>>Canada!!!
>>
>>>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>>
>>>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>>
>>
>>>>Just print this form, and send a money order for $25, and see whether
>>>>or not you get a valid tax receipt in return.... and see if it comes
>>>>from anthing called "Nizkor," or claims that it would... won't that be
>>>>fun, Bill? If you don't get that valid reciept, well geewhilikers,
>>>>you've got me, eh?
>>
>>>>Please print this form and send to: 
>>>>The Nizkor Project 
>>>>c/o 
>>>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>>>xxxxxx Street 
>>>>Toronto, Ontario  
>>
>>>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>>
>>>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>>>cheque's memo section. 
>>
>>
>>>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>>
>>



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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site. 
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>groups. 
>
>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable. 
>
>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>
>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>
>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists. 
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>forgotten. 
>
>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>be removed. 
>>
>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>
>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>
>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>the moment.'' 
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold. 
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>
>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>
>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>
>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>
>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>Jewish community.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>



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On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:19:23 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:06:54 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> 
>>> dddddddddddddd
>>> 
>>> Grigori, if you do not know or do not believe me, please read the
>>> monograph about Lazar Kaganowich by his American cousin titled The Wolf
>>> of the Kremlin.  Stven eventually was given permission by Brezhnev to
>>> visit his uncle in Moscow.  Look in Stevens book at the photo of his
>>> aunt Rosa and unkle Mikhail Kaganovich who was shot with the blessing of
>>> Lazar and Rosa for treason which was sympathy for Israel.
>>> 
>>> Mikhail learned zionsim on his trip in USA during WW II and he was
>>> commissar of Soviet aviation.
>>> 
>>> Pawlikowski deserves from you apology, but I doubut he will get it.
>>> 
>>> Some Jews are simply michigene
>>> ---------
>>> RAgan
>>> 
>>> Grigori Khaskin wrote:
>>> >
>>> > PAWLIKOWSKI (polhistsoc@earthlink.net) wrote:
>>> >
>>> > : Klan of Kaganoviches, Soviet Jews who ran USSR at that time (Rosa
>>> > : Kaganowich, M.D. being at that time Stalins wife) felt scorned by
>>> > : Israel.  Hell know no furry as the woman scorned!
>>> >
>>> > What interesting here, that all it is lie, but the name of Lazar
>>> > Kaganovich.
>>> >
>>> > #1. Kaganovich had no "clan", especially one who was running USSR.
>>> >
>>> > Better you, patologycal judofob, invent something new, remotely close to
>>> > reality, like "Georgian Djugashvili when studied in christian seminary was
>>> > forcefullyu converted to Judaizm and than under name Stalin
>>> > successfully tried to kill all polish christians worldwide".
>>> >
>>> > #2. STalin never had a wife with the name "Rosa", not talking about Rosa
>>> > Kaganovich, M.D. because:
>>> >
>>> > #3. Lazar Kaganovich NEVER have a sister Rosa Kaganovich.
>>> >
>>> > That lies you are repeating was put in circulation with Russian
>>> > antisemitic blacj hundred organization "Pamiat" in the end of 80th and
>>> > was exposed countless times as an open lie in Russian periodicals.
>>> >
>>> > #4. Affiliation of patologycal commie Kaganovich and Israel came from the
>>> > same garbage dumpster.
>>> >
>>> > #5. Stalin with the help of his henchmen Beria at the time was preparing
>>> > the wholesale deportation Jews to death camps in Siberia, and started to
>>> > unfold so-called "Case of Jewish doctors", implicating all Jewish M.D. who
>>> > worked in Kremlin hospital killing of communist party leaders admitted to
>>> > hospital. It had to become a spark to deportation. Thanx G-d the bastard
>>> > died himself on Purim night and deportation was aborted.
>>> >
>>> > Does it look, like that scenario was running by a jews? Dear
>>> > Padlikowsky? Maybe unexisted M.D. Kaganovich tried to get rid of worldwide
>>> > known M.D. in Moscow?
>>> >
>>> > You are laughable, moron.
>>> >
>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>> >
>>> > G.K.
>>> >
>>> > : USSR hoped to control Arab oilpipes then going  through Israel.
>>> >
>>> > Pipelines THROUGH Israel? Pumping oil there in 1940th? Time to call Mr.
>>> > Padlikowsky a veterinarian, and teacher in geography.
>>> >
>>> > : USSR staged Kielce and other pogroms to stock Palestine with Soviet
>>> > : Jews  but these indoctrinated Jews did not bother with USSR once in
>>> > : Israel.
>>> >
>>> > No, no. Glory of Kielce is a badge of honor on your antisemitic mighty
>>> > chest.
>>> >
>>> > But what pogrom in Kielce has in common with stocking of Palestine with
>>> > SOVIET jews? Especially when all info about Kielce was immediately
>>> > SUPPRESSED for ten's of years?
>>> >
>>> > Why it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get from Russia to Israel all that years??
>>> > And it was a multitude of jews who was refused an exit visas and instead
>>> > of Near East were sent to Far North?
>>> >
>>> > : Elementary HErmie HH
>>> > : ---------
>>> > : Pawlikowski
>>> >
>>> > Unfortunately, that tipe of lies almost never elementary. despite such a
>>> > lies have been produced by thou who have one convolution in the brain, and
>>> > even this one was straiten by Waffen SS side-cap. Unfortunately a rebuke
>>> > required and time had been waisted for such an imbecile.
>>> >
>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>> >
>>> > G.K.
>>
>>
>>It seems that the Russian JEWs, and their lackeys have already forgotten
>>who established the Soviet secret Police, forerunners of the dreaded KGB
>>- it was that great JEW Felix DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>
>>It was the secret police that engaged in genocide - first on the
>>Russians, then the more than 30 million Ukrainians murdered by the JEW
>>Kommissars!!!
>>
>>How many tens of millions bodies does it take to REMEMBER - that it was
>>the SOVIET JEWS who first engaged in genocide?



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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site. 
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>groups. 
>
>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable. 
>
>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>
>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>
>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists. 
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>forgotten. 
>
>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>be removed. 
>>
>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>
>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>
>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>the moment.'' 
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold. 
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>
>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>
>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>
>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>
>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>Jewish community.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>



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On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:06:50 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>On 1 May 1998 13:08:00 +0200, Irmin@nsm.htp.org wrote:
>
>>American Dissident Voices Broadcast of April 25, 1998
>>
>>Katyn
>>by Dr. William Pierce
>>
>>A background noise that seems never to go away is the constant 
>>whining and yammering of the Jews about how the world owes them a 
>>living because of their losses during the so-called "Holocaust." 
>>They do it, of course, because they make such a big profit on it. 
>>The latest flare-up of this Jewish play for a handout came more 
>>than a year ago when they began demanding that the Swiss pay them 
>>$7 billion, which "Holocaust" victims allegedly had stashed in 
>>numbered Swiss accounts before being hauled off to gas chambers 
>>during the Second World War.
>>
>>With a few "bought" Gentile politicians fronting for them, the 
>>foremost among these being New York's Senator Alphonse D'Amato, 
>>the Jews threatened Switzerland with a boycott by the U.S. 
>>government if their demands were not met. Instead of laughing in 
>>their faces, telling the Jews to go to hell, and gearing up for 
>>countermeasures against Israel and other Jewish interests if the 
>>Jews tried to proceed with a boycott, the Swiss politicians tried 
>>to placate the Jews by offering to buy themoff. The Jews took the 
>>Swiss response as a sign of weakness and escalated their demands.
>>
>>The average Swiss citizen seems to have a little more pride than
>>Switzerland's elected officials, however, and resentment against 
>>the Jews' extortion efforts is building in Switzerland now to the 
>>point that some of that country's richest Jews are wearing 
>>bulletproof vests whenever they must go out in public.
>>
>>In general, however, this "Holocaust"-based extortion racket 
>>works quite well for the Jews, and they have expanded their 
>>demands for World War Two reparations to include a number of 
>>other countries besides Switzerland. They are even whining that 
>>the Vatican owes them because Pope Pius XII didn't do enough to 
>>save them from the Germans during the war. The Jews' brazenness 
>>in this whole business is quite breathtaking.
>>
>>Their brazenness, of course, is justified, because by and large 
>>they have been getting away with it. And they have been getting 
>>away with it because with their media control they have been able 
>>to distort the general public's whole perception of what happened 
>>during the Second World War. They have been able to portray 
>>themselves as innocent victims and just about everyone else as 
>>persecutors and aggressors, even the people who were fighting on 
>>the Jewish side against the Germans during the war. For example, 
>>they have done quite a bit of whining that after the Red Army 
>>drove the Germans from Poland, the Poles took the opportunity to 
>>lynch hundreds of Jews in 1945 and 1946: Jews whom the Germans 
>>somehow had failed to get rid of during their wartime occupation
>>of Poland.
>>
>>Now, why would the Poles do something like that? Why would they 
>>lynch the poor Jews, who had been on their side during the war? 
>>If you learned about the war from watching Steven Spielberg 
>>propaganda films and other mass-media sources, you probably 
>>believe that it was because of religious anti-Semitism on the 
>>part of the Catholic Poles. Let me tell you the real reason why 
>>so many Poles hated Jews after the war. It's something the 
>>Jew-controlled media in America have tried hard to keep covered 
>>up. Let me tell you about what happened in the Katyn forest
>>in 1940.
>>
>>In September 1939 Poland was invaded from the west by Germany and 
>>from the east by the Soviet Union. The Germans wanted back the 
>>territory in western Poland, including the city of Danzig, which 
>>had been taken from them at the end of the First World War. The 
>>Soviets wanted eastern Poland. The Germans and the Soviets 
>>divided Poland between them, with the boundary running roughly 
>>along the River Bug.
>>
>>Britain and France, both under strong Jewish pressure, declared 
>>war on Germany in September 1939, ostensibly because of Germany's 
>>invasion of Poland. They did not declare war on the Soviet Union, 
>>which also had invaded Poland. In the United States and in 
>>western Europe, where the Jews held a deathgrip on the mass 
>>media, a great deal of anti-German propaganda was based on the 
>>German grab for Polish territory -- much of which, of course, 
>>actually was historically German territory -- and nothing was 
>>said of the Soviet occupation and annexation of eastern Poland.
>>
>>The reason for this anti-German and pro-Soviet bias by the Jewish 
>>media was that the Jews were riding high in the Soviet Union as 
>>commissars and communist party bosses under Stalin, while in 
>>Germany Hitler had undertaken a program since 1933 of freeing 
>>Germany from all Jewish influence. Jews had been weeded out of 
>>the media, the law, the schools, and other areas of economic and 
>>cultural life in Germany. Before Hitler became chancellor in 1933 
>>the Jews had done in Germany what they do in every country where 
>>they gain a foothold: they had monopolized large sections of the 
>>mass media and certain professions and were doing their best to 
>>distort German culture, German society, and the German economy
>>to suit themselves. Hitler put a stop to that, and two-thirds of 
>>the 1933 Jewish population of Germany had emigrated by the 
>>invasion of Poland in September 1939. So the Jews hated Germany 
>>and were determined to do whatever they could to destroy her.
>>
>>For his part, Hitler hoped to avoid war with Britain and France. 
>>He hoped that after his quick victory in western Poland he could 
>>make peace with Britain and France. He was determined, however, 
>>to stamp out communism wherever he encountered it. Not only did 
>>he hate communism on ideological grounds, but he had sworn to 
>>fight communism when the communists in Germany betrayed his 
>>country at the end of the First World War. Hitler also saw the 
>>Soviet Union as a threat to all of Europe, and he was determined 
>>to break the power of that country when he could, even though 
>>there was an uneasy non-aggression pact between Germany and the
>>Soviet Union in 1939, at the time of their partition of Poland.
>>
>>In the spring of 1941 massive troop movements and other 
>>developments inside the Soviet Union convinced Hitler that Stalin 
>>was preparing to invade the west with the Red Army, and so in 
>>June 1941 Hitler made a preemptive strike. German forces smashed 
>>through the Red Army and made rapid advances, first through 
>>Soviet-occupied eastern Poland and then through Ukraine and into 
>>Russia.
>>
>>A year and a half later, in February 1943, German forces near 
>>Smolensk, in western Russia, investigated reports they heard from 
>>Russian civilians to the effect that a large number of prisoners 
>>had been murdered by the Soviet secret police in the area nearly 
>>three years earlier. The German investigators were led by local 
>>Russians to a series of mounds in a wooded area known locally as 
>>Katyn Forest, about 10 miles west of Smolensk. The forest is 
>>named for a village, Katyn, which it surrounds. The forest had 
>>been privately owned prior to the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, 
>>but after the communist takeover of Russia the area had been 
>>confiscated by the government and part of the forest had been
>>turned over to the NKVD, the Soviet equivalent of the American 
>>FBI.
>>
>>The Germans began digging in the mounds in the Katyn forest and 
>>made a horrible discovery. They found corpse after corpse, each 
>>with its hands bound behind its back and a bullet hole in the 
>>base of its skull. They continued their excavations for more than 
>>a month, and eventually uncovered more than 4,000 corpses. Other 
>>bodies may have remained buried in other mounds, but the Germans 
>>had no time to dig up the whole forest. Instead they called in 
>>the International Red Cross and representatives of various 
>>neutral countries to examine their findings. They also brought in 
>>groups of Allied prisoners of war, including Americans, from
>>prison camps in Germany to view the graves in the Katyn forest. 
>>They gave these international inspectors complete freedom to 
>>examine the exhumed bodies, permitted doctors among them to 
>>conduct autopsies, even allowed them to dig up other bodies from 
>>one of the mounds which had not been completely excavated. The 
>>Germans asked only that the inspectors report back truthfully to 
>>their own governments about their observations. And in fact, most 
>>of them did.
>>
>>What they reported was that the bodies were those of Polish 
>>military officers, along with a number of civilian cultural and 
>>business leaders and intellectuals -- scientists, writers, poets 
>>-- who had been in the portion of Poland occupied by the Soviet 
>>Union in September 1939. Altogether the Soviet secret police had 
>>rounded up some 15,000 Polish leaders in 1939 -- including nearly 
>>half of the entire Polish officer's corps, the half that had had 
>>the misfortune of being in eastern Poland at the time -- and put 
>>them in three concentration camps in Russia: at Starobelsk, 
>>Kozelsk, and Ostashkov. All of the bodies unearthed in the
>>Katyn forest were of Polish leaders who had been confined at one 
>>of these camps: Starobelsk.
>>
>>Rounding up a country's leaders and killing them was standard 
>>practice for the communists. The theory was that the leaders were 
>>bourgeois oppressors of the working class and deserved to die. As 
>>egalitarians the communists did not regard the Polish officers 
>>and intellectuals as inherently better or more valuable human 
>>material than the average Polish criminal or welfare bum; the 
>>officers had simply used their class advantage to gain a better 
>>life-style for themselves. Of course, no one really believed that 
>>theory except the criminals and welfare bums and other resentful 
>>losers and ne'er-do-wells who made up the natural communist 
>>constituency. As a practical matter, however, killing all the
>>leaders and potential leaders of a conquered people made them 
>>easier to govern. That's what the Marxists had done in Russia, 
>>Ukraine, and the Baltic countries.
>>
>>In the case of the Poles there was a bit of a diplomatic problem,
>>though. The Poles supported the war Britain and France had 
>>declared against Germany, purportedly on their behalf, because 
>>they viewed that as their one hope for getting back at least the 
>>western part of their country. They were not happy about the 
>>Russians taking the eastern part of Poland, but the Russians at 
>>least were fellow Slavs. The thing to do was get rid of the 
>>Germans first and then worry about the Russians. This Polish 
>>strategy suited Stalin fine. But it made it desirable for him to
>>avoid alienating the Poles any more than necessary. When Polish 
>>exiles asked about their imprisoned leaders in late 1939 and 
>>early 1940, the Soviet government promised that they would be 
>>released shortly. Meanwhile, the decision had been made to kill 
>>all of them. And so in April 1940 the Polish leaders were taken 
>>from the three camps where they had been imprisoned, trucked off 
>>to various liquidation sites, and murdered. The ones who had been 
>>imprisoned at Starobelsk all went to the NKVD area of the Katyn 
>>forest. After the war some of the NKVD executioners were 
>>interviewed in Israel and described how they had carried out the 
>>killings.
>>
>>The Poles were driven up to the burial pits in long NKVD prison 
>>trucks known as "black ravens." They were pulled from the trucks 
>>one at a time by NKVD guards. Each Polish prisoner had his hands 
>>bound behind his back and then was dragged to the edge of a pit. 
>>There he was held by two NKVD men while a third fired a pistol 
>>bullet into the back of his head. Some of the officers had had 
>>their coats pulled over their heads to keep them from seeing what 
>>was happening before they were shot. Some struggled and were 
>>bayonetted by NKVD guards before being shot and thrown into the
>>pit. When all of the officers from Starobelsk had been killed, 
>>some 4,400 of them, the Katyn forest burial pits were covered 
>>with dirt and pine trees were planted on them. The locations of 
>>the mass graves of the prisoners from the camps at Kozelsk and 
>>Ostashkov remain unknown, but none of the 15,000 Polish officers 
>>and intellectuals rounded up by the NKVD in September 1939 was 
>>seen alive after April 1940.
>>
>>The Red Cross representatives and the Allied prisoners the 
>>Germans brought in to examine the mass graves in the Katyn forest 
>>understood after their examination not only who had been killed; 
>>they also understood who had killed them. This was apparent not 
>>only from the medical estimates of the length of time the bodies 
>>had been buried, but also from documentary evidence on the 
>>bodies. Diaries, news clippings, letters, and other personal 
>>papers removed from the clothing of the victims all told the same 
>>story: the latest dates on any of these papers were from 
>>mid-April 1940. The Polish leaders had been killed in April 1940, 
>>when they were prisoners of the Soviet Union and when the Katyn
>>region was under Soviet control. And this is what they reported 
>>back to their governments.
>>
>>So what do you think happened? Were the British and American 
>>governments horrified to discover that their "gallant Soviet 
>>ally," as the Soviet Union was referred to by the mass media, was 
>>a mass murderer? Did the British government, which had gone to 
>>war against Germany under the pretext of defending Poland, decide 
>>that it had made a mistake? Did anyone condemn the Soviet Union 
>>for this act of genocide against the Poles?
>>
>>Of course not! The Allied governments ordered their people who 
>>had inspected the Katyn site to keep their mouths shut, and the 
>>Jewish media immediately began announcing that the Germans had 
>>done it. A mass murder of Polish officers and intellectuals by 
>>the Nazis had been discovered in the Katyn forest, the New York 
>>Times and the rest of the Jewish media shrieked. Poor Poles! 
>>Wicked Germans! The war must go on to free the poor Poles and 
>>punish the wicked Germans. And the war did go on, killing
>>millions of more Germans, British, Americans, and other 
>>Europeans. And the Germans were indeed punished. The Poles, of 
>>course, were not freed. Instead they were turned over to the 
>>Reds, who had butchered their leaders in the Katyn forest, and 
>>made to suffer under communist rule for half a century.
>>
>>The war went on after the German discovery of the mass graves in 
>>the Katyn forest, because its purpose from the beginning was not 
>>to free Poland but to destroy Germany, which had dared to free 
>>itself from the Jews. Roosevelt understood this. Churchill 
>>understood this. But the American and British people didn't 
>>understand it, of course, because they were lied to by the Jewish 
>>media and by their own governments, who in 1943 as in 1998 have 
>>done whatever has been politically expedient. And what has been 
>>politically expedient has been what the Jewish media bosses have 
>>decided.
>>
>>The lies about Katyn were maintained by the media for some years 
>>after the end of the war, because these lies meshed nicely with 
>>the "Holocaust" story which was making so much money for the 
>>Jews. Nowadays, of course, the truth about the Katyn murders is 
>>generally accepted by historians everywhere. You can go into 
>>almost any large library and read about it and even see the 
>>gruesome photographs that the Germans took of the Polish bodies 
>>they dug up. One of several authoritative books on the subject is 
>>J.K. Zawodny's Death in the Forest: the Story of the Katyn
>>Forest Massacre, published in 1962 by the University of Notre 
>>Dame Press. None of this is publicized a la Steven Spielberg, of 
>>course, for the illumination of American television audiences. It 
>>still might undermine the Jews' "Holocaust" racket.
>>
>>In 1945 and 1946, although the deceived citizens of the western 
>>world didn't know the truth about Katyn, Polish patriots did. The 
>>word had gotten back to the Polish prisoners in German camps from 
>>the Poles the Germans had taken to examine the graves. After the 
>>war, when these Polish prisoners were freed, the word spread to 
>>other Poles. They knew that it was the communists, not the Nazis, 
>>who had murdered their leaders, who had beheaded their nation. 
>>And they knew who was behind communism, from the Jew Karl Marx, 
>>who had started the whole business, up to the Jewish commissars 
>>who lorded it over them in Soviet-occupied Poland. They knew who 
>>had welcomed their Soviet conquerors and then collaborated with 
>>those conquerors. And so it is hardly surprising that in 1945 and 
>>1946 a few Polish patriots organized lynchings of Jews in Poland, 
>>before the Reds had a chance to clamp down on all of Poland and
>>suppress any further expressions of anti-communist or anti-Jewish
>>feeling.
>>
>>No, the Polish dislike of Jews isn't surprising. What is 
>>surprising is that so few patriots in America and Britain have 
>>expressed their outrage against the Jews, not only for what they 
>>did to the Poles during and after the war, but for what they have 
>>done to us: lying to us and using us to wage their wars for them. 
>>If patriots study the Katyn story and take its lesson to heart, 
>>they will understand why they cannot trust either the mass media 
>>or any government which dances to the tune played by the media. 
>>Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill were as much liars and 
>>traitors as Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.
>>
>>Anyway, you might remember Katyn the next time you hear the Jews 
>>or some of their bought politicians whining about how much gold 
>>was stolen from them by the Swiss or how badly the Poles and the 
>>Germans treated them during the Second World War.
>>
>>The text above is based on a broadcast of the American Dissident
>>Voices radio program sponsored by National Vanguard Books. To 
>>receive weekly ADV transcripts, mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com 
>>Write "subscribe" as the subject of your message. 
>>
>>++++++++++++++
>>
>>American Renaissance
>>http://www.amren.com
>>
>>Campaign for Radical Truth in History
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>
>>Euro-American Students Union
>>http://esu.simplenet.com
>>
>>Katja Lane's Fourteen Word Press
>>http://www.14words.com
>>
>>National Alliance
>>http://www.natvan.com
>>
>>Stormfront
>>http://www.stormfront.org
>>
>>Yggdrasil's White Nationalist Library
>>http://www.ddc.net/ygg
>>
>>
>>



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On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 16:03:23 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:42:53 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>
>>Here  is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>
>>The Kastner Case
>>
>>                              
>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>
>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>are generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy'
>>about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for
>>money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated'
>>by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>>
>>                              The Accusations
>>
>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>
>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
>>Herald, he wrote:
>>
>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>
>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>silence.
>>
>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>>exterminations.
>>
>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>
>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
>>With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben
>>Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
>>
>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>
>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
>>operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
>>elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
>>negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
>>them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
>>Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
>>resisting deportation - and even keep order in the collection camps -
>>if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
>>Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
>>not too high for me.
>>
>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
>>case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
>>and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>
>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>
>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal 'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
>>helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
>>escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
>>or so Jews...That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>of  Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
>>prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
>>Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
>>the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>>                                The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court
>>of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence  in the false information that they were being transferred
>>to Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
>>mislead the Jews.
>>
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
>>overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
>>activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
>>leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
>>community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
>>Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
>>Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
>>The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
>>they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
>>will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
>>Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
>>the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs
>>.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
>>S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
>>Jews.
>>
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
>>a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
>>that would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with
>>Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
>>whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
>>great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
>>on the other hand.
>>
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
>>was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
>>the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
>>fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
>>the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
>>already been wiped out from the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
>>not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
>>the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
>>chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
>>quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
>>124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
>>Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
>>S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he
>>concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
>>of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
>>prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
>>negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation
>>in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
>>last minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one
>>overwhelming truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>>declared in the affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one
>>moment the good intention of good Becher'.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
>>the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
>>were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
>>there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
>>criminal. Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
>>affidavit given in favor of a war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his statements." 
>>
>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
>>unproved accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from
>>his Nazi 
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>>pounds as court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>> 
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June
>>1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
>>criminal libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an
>>appeal filed.
>>
>>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
>>such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
>>come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
>>institutions."(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the  name  of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
>>this point  Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
>>'fully rehabilitated'.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court - that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
>>take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
>>'fully rehabilitated'.
>>                        
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
>>two, found that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and
>>convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
>>'collaboration'.
>>
>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
>>that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner. They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
>>the end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
>>saying, 'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
>>tree'. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
>>witness about the Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in
>>Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a
>>Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
>>with force against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view
>>no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
>>news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
>>can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
>>result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
>>Jewish community.
>>
>>Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
>>and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
>>that Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
>>scale...And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
>>very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
>>knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
>>save a few Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his
>>hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
>>their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
>>question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
>>a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
>>should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
>>awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
>>although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
>>many or should he disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
>>will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I
>>said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
>>President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
>>me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
>>demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>>
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
>>leadership both from a moral and public point of view...
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
>>extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
>>Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
>>gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
>>what was known to them and did not warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
>>Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
>>people in Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
>>exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did -
>>concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
>>Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
>>Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
>>have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
>>dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
>>judgements on the guilt of others....
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
>>ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
>>he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
>>of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
>>of the few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
>>accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
>>extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
>>result.'
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
>>the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
>>emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
>>had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
>>thousands would have been able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
>>money, bribery,etc. - and when this is the case and when one deals
>>with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
>>reject with complete certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency
>>of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
>>thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God? 
>>Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
>>to a claim of such good faith...
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
>>will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
>>as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
>>the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
>>rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
>>make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
>>his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
>>many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
>>escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
>>these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
>>proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
>>claim that Kastner had concealed the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
>>and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
>>working  smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional
>>proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
>>tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
>>occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
>>proof of  evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
>>great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
>>eyes...I couldn't base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
>>been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
>>of events it throws retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
>>have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
>>advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
>>to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
>>and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>>fear of what might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
>>on trial .
>>
>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the  Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
>>Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
>>eventually to Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
>>leadership in Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less
>>delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately
>>after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
>>'rehabilitating' him was delivered.
>>
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the  Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
>>'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the
>>murder trial).
>>
>>
>>sven88



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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:39:08 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:53:01 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:34:37 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:45:54 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>>>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>>>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>>>
>>>They haven't.
>>>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>>>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>>
>>>>David Maddison
>>>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>>
>>>Harold.



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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:40:41 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:24:48 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!



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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:03:05 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:20:47 +1000, Grant Watson 
>wrote:
>>kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>> >Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>> >communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>> >want to generate more?
>
>>Please explain to me the concept of "Jew communism".....
>
>
>Hopefully the article following is enough, or do you want more?
>
>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>
>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>
>
>>Clancy wrote:
>
>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>
>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>
>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>
>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>
>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>> the murderer).
>
>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>> sentiment.
>
>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
> 
>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>
>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
> 
>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>
>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>
>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
> 
>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>> Police.
>
>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>> peasants in Spain.
> 
>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>
>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>
>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
> 
>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>> Meadow).
>
>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>> Julius Rosenwald.
> 
>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>
>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
> 
>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
> 
>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>> member of the Central Committee.
>
>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
> 
>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
> 
>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
> 
>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
> 
>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
> 
>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
> 
>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
> 
>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>> LEON KASMAN,
> 
>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
> 
>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
> 
>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>> raised.
> 
>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
> 
>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
> 
>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
> 
>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
> 
>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>> 1992).
> 
>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
> 
>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
> 
>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
> 
>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
> 
>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
> 
>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>      world-wide social revolution."
> 
>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
> 
>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
> 
>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
> 
>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
> 
>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
> 
>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
> 
>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
> 
>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>> 414 New York (1937):
> 
>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
> 
>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
> 
>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>      Judaism."
> 
>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>
>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>
>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
> 
>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
> 
>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
> 
>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>      executioners."
>
>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>
>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
> 
>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
> 
>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>> Jewesses.
>
>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
> 
>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>> people."
>
>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
> 
>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
> 
>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
> 
>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
> 
>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
> 
>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
> 
>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>
>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>> government-funded."
>
>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
> 
>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
> 
>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>sven88



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:18:57 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>>On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:52:15 -0400, "[Unknown sender]"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Hide your crimes behind the holohoax!
>>>
>>>Date: Monday, 22-Dec-97 06:45 PM
>>>
>>>Subject: 6 Indicted in Fraud Over Use of Grants for Hasidic Groups
>>>
>>>   Excerpt:
>>>
>>>   The Federal subpoenas are "...remindful of the Holocaust that many in
>>>   this community endured decades ago."
>>>
>>>   By BENJAMIN WEISER N.Y. Times May 29, 1997 (Metro section only)
>>>
>>>   NEW YORK -- Five members of a Hasidic community in Rockland County and
>>>   one in Brooklyn were indicted Wednesday on charges that they
>>>   systematically defrauded the federal and state governments of tens of
>>>   millions of dollars in student loans, business assistance and housing
>>>   subsidies.
>>>
>>>   In one scheme, according to federal prosecutors, a Talmudic seminary in
>>>   Brooklyn was financed almost entirely by federal Pell grants awarded to
>>>   ineligible or nonexistent students. The defendants also looted state
>>>   student aid programs, Small Business Administration programs and the
>>>   federal Section 8 housing program, prosecutors said.
>>>
>>>   The plans, the authorities said, were used to enrich the defendants but
>>>   also to benefit the community institutions of New Square, the Rockland
>>>   County village, along with the yeshiva in New Square.
>>>
>>>   In a broad indictment unsealed Wednesday in Manhattan, the U.S.
>>>   attorney's office depicted a vast scheme by which the six men and others
>>>   enrolled thousands of New Square and Brooklyn residents in post-secondary
>>>   education programs in Jewish seminaries and Rockland County Community
>>>   College in order to fraudulently obtain money through federal Pell
>>>   grants, which are awarded to needy post-secondary students.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said that most of the students were not eligible for the
>>>   grants, did not get their degrees and, in some cases, enrolled after
>>>   recruiters promised them hundreds of dollars a year. Prosecutors said
>>>   that one Brooklyn seminary program fraudulently got $10.3 million in Pell
>>>   grants "on behalf of its purported students."
>>>
>>>   The government's investigation has been no secret in the tightly knit
>>>   community of about 6,000 in New Square, which consists almost entirely of
>>>   Hasidim. News of the indictment drew sharp criticism there Wednesday. A
>>>   statement by village representatives contended that the U.S. attorney in
>>>   Manhattan, Mary Jo White, had a "vendetta" against New Square residents,
>>>   and that federal agents had earlier scared small children there by
>>>   serving subpoenas at 6 a.m. "in a manner remindful of the Holocaust that
>>>   many in this community endured decades ago."
>>>
>>>   Rabbi Mayer Schiller, (1) who said he was a spokesman for the residents,
>>>   said he was certain that the accusations would be proven false. "They
>>>   have imposed a reign of terror on this entire community," he said,
>>>   referring to the federal prosecutors."
>>>
>>>   Ms. White responded by citing an earlier phase of the investigation when,
>>>   in 1995, a federal judge held the Yeshiva of New Square in contempt of
>>>   court for failing to obey a grand jury subpoena for its bank records and
>>>   other documents, which led to a $1 million fine paid by the yeshiva.
>>>
>>>   "Given the repeated efforts to obstruct the grand jury's investigation,"
>>>   she said, "the response and accusations of unfair treatment are
>>>   disheartening, but not surprising."
>>>
>>>   The indictment was vague about just how the money was put to use, and
>>>   just how much ended up back in the community.
>>>
>>>   Schiller said that New Square was founded in 1957 by four Holocaust
>>>   survivors, including Chaim Berger, one of the defendants named in
>>>   Wednesday's indictment.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said Berger had been a member of the village's board of
>>>   trustees and the board of the Yeshiva of New Square, and was chairman of
>>>   the board of the Brooklyn seminary, Toldos Yakov Yosef, where many of the
>>>   New Square and Brooklyn students receiving Pell grants were enrolled.
>>>
>>>   The indictment asserted that Berger and two other of the seminary's
>>>   administrators, Kalmen Stern and David Goldstein, created a false picture
>>>   of the seminary's programs. The indictment said they falsified resumes,
>>>   minutes of the board meetings and reviews of student progress to get
>>>   federal money.
>>>
>>>   The seminary was financed "almost exclusively" by Pell grants awarded to
>>>   the school on behalf of its "alleged" students from 1987 to 1993, the
>>>   indictment said, but in reality, it added, the school enrolled students
>>>   who did not meet the requirements, were not seeking a degree, and did not
>>>   take tests or even take part in any actual program of study.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said that in the early 1980s, Berger and others helped
>>>   create a program for "independent Judaic Studies" for New Square students
>>>   at Rockland County Community College.
>>>
>>>   From 1982 to 1988, thousands of students were enrolled, and most got Pell
>>>   grants and state tuition aid. The indictment said that many of these
>>>   students were also not eligible for aid, and in some cases, did not even
>>>   know they were enrolled.
>>>
>>>   "Some New Square and Brooklyn residents were enrolled in as many as five
>>>   different educational institutions, and received Pell Grants for as many
>>>   as 10 or more years, without ever receiving any degree or any certificate
>>>   reflecting that they had completed a program of study," the indictment
>>>   said.
>>>
>>>   Besides Berger and Stern, the indictment charged three other New Square
>>>   residents, Jacob Elbaum; Berger's son, Benjamin, and Avrum D.  Friesel
>>>   who, according to Schiller, is the son of New Square's mayor.  Goldstein,
>>>   the sixth defendant, lives in Brooklyn.
>>>
>>>   None of the defendants or their lawyers could be reached for comment
>>>   Wednesday. Gerald Shargel, a lawyer for the Yeshiva of New Square, said
>>>   he could not comment on the specifics of the case.
>>>
>>>



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:37:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:04:09 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:13:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>>>>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>>>>>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>>>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>>>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>>>>>> answer??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>>>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>>>>>>> >               letters?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>>>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>>>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>>>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>>>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>>>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>>>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>>>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>>>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>>>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>>>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>>>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>>>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>>>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>>>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>>>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>>>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>>>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>>>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>>>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>>>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with 'loan' grants or
>>>>>>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>>>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>>>>>>> >their way into White America's good nature and generousity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >NO MORE!  The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>>>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>>>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>>>>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>sven88



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On Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:36:12 -0500, Anonymous
 wrote:

>Proposed Holocaust Wing Sparks Furor
>
>OTTAWA, Ont. (CP)--A controversial plan to construct a Holocaust 
>wing in the Canadian Cricket Hall of Fame (CCHF) has erupted into 
>a heated debate which has pitted veteran cricket players against 
>Jewish organizations and opened a dark chapter in Canada's past.
>
>The controversy began last February with CCHF historian Fred 
>Gaffenstein's proposal for a Holocaust memorial to focus 
>attention on "widespread anti-Semitism in Canada," which "had the 
>worst record of any Western country when it came to accepting 
>Jews, and one of the most forgiving when it came to accepting 
>Nazi war criminals. The Holocaust wing will serve as a permanent 
>reminder of our guilt, especially for young cricket fans."
>
>Veteran cricketers reacted angrily to Gaffenstein's proposal, 
>which has been championed by Jewish organizations and enjoys the 
>support of most local politicians.
>
>The Canadian Cricket Hall of Fame is located in a third-story 
>apartment above an Ottawa laundromat. Veterans claim the proposed 
>Holocaust wing would displace the small number of exhibits the 
>museum currently displays and divert attention from the often 
>neglected accomplishments of Canadian cricket players.
>
>Archibald Robertson, octogenarian president of the Canadian 
>Cricket Association, was surprised at the flurry of accusations 
>directed against his group, which has spearheaded the campaign 
>against the Gaffenstein plan amid charges of racism and Holocaust 
>denial.
>
>"Some of my best friends are Jews, so I'm no anti-Semite," 
>Robertson said. "But for the life of me I don't see why we need a 
>Holocaust memorial in a small cricket museum."
>
>The Gaffenstein plan would relocate four of the museum's five 
>exhibits to a garage behind the laundromat and would replace them 
>with Holocaust memorabilia and a multimedia exhibit on the 
>history of anti-Semitism. Robertson and other veterans fear the 
>the CCHF will be unable to fulfil its original purpose as a 
>result of the proposed reorganization.
>
>Prof. Irving Abella, past president of the Canadian Jewish 
>Congress (CJC) and author of a number of influential studies on 
>anti-Semitism in Canadian sports, expressed dismay at the 
>veterans' opposition to the Holocaust wing.
> 
>"Frankly, as a historian I am shocked at their insensitivity," 
>Abella said in an address yesterday before a packed and often 
>raucous meeting of the Shoah Advocacy League. "In the 1940s 
>Canadians were playing cricket while Jews were being gassed and 
>turned into soap. And not a single cricket player spoke out. It 
>is a shameful legacy."
> 
>CJC Community Relations director Bernie Farber was more blunt in 
>his dismissal of the ageing veterans' protests. "Pretty soon 
>all these old white guys will be dead. If we don't get our 
>Holocaust wing this time, we'll have it soon enough."
>
>"You can never have too many Holocaust museums," Farber added. "I 
>look forward to the day when there are memorials to the Shoah in 
>gas stations and amusement parks."



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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:02:29 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>
>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>
>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>
>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>
>>sperati wrote:
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:07:24 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>
>Here  is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>
>The Kastner Case
>
>                              
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>are generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy'
>about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for
>money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated'
>by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>
>                              The Accusations
>
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
>Herald, he wrote:
>
>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>silence.
>
>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>exterminations.
>
>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
>With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben
>Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
>operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
>elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
>negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
>them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
>Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
>resisting deportation - and even keep order in the collection camps -
>if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
>Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
>not too high for me.
>
>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
>case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
>and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal 'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
>helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
>escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
>or so Jews...That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner
>(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>of  Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
>prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
>Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
>the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>                                The Verdict
>
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court
>of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully.
>
>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence  in the false information that they were being transferred
>to Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
>mislead the Jews.
>
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
>overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
>activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
>leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
>community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
>Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
>Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
>The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
>they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
>will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
>Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
>the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs
>.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
>S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
>Jews.
>
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
>a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
>that would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with
>Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan.
>
>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
>whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
>great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
>on the other hand.
>
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
>was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
>the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
>fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
>the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
>already been wiped out from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
>not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
>the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
>chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
>quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
>124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
>Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the
>S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he
>concealed the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name
>of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the
>prosecution to remove Becher from this status, if they wished to
>negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation
>in the activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the
>last minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one
>overwhelming truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one
>moment the good intention of good Becher'.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and
>the contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies,
>were sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that
>there was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war
>criminal. Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a wilfully false
>affidavit given in favor of a war
>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements." 
>
>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one
>unproved accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from
>his Nazi 
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
> 
>The Reaction
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June
>1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>
>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for
>criminal libel.
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an
>appeal filed.
>
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess
>such lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly:
>
>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>National Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I
>come here in this court to defend the representative of our national
>institutions."(Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>the  name  of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On
>this point  Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not
>'fully rehabilitated'.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>court - that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz
>from the majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to
>take a thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being
>'fully rehabilitated'.
>                        
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to
>two, found that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and
>convicted Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this
>'collaboration'.
>
>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel
>that prove conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>Kastner. They joined him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at
>the end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation,
>saying, 'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the
>tree'. This vivid description coincides with the testimony of another
>witness about the Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in
>Hungary, without any ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a
>Kastner aide in Budapest, protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations
>with force against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view
>no rescue achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz
>news to the Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on
>can properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not
>result from his great despair because of the helplessness of the
>Jewish community.
>
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration
>and assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate
>that Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big
>scale...And towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go
>very far and say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent
>knowingly, in submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to
>save a few Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his
>hands by collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out
>their plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the
>question is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save
>a few, or vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and
>should be defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is
>awaiting its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few,
>although part of his efforts involve concealment of truth from the
>many or should he disclose
>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good
>will the blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I
>said, I am not arguing with the basic factual findings of the learned
>President of the Jewish District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to
>me, with all due respect, that his findings do not, as of necessity,
>demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>extermination of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad
>leadership both from a moral and public point of view...
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to
>extermination, one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi,
>Brand, Revis and Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who
>gagged themselves in an hour of crisis and did not inform others of
>what was known to them and did not warn
>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>Court with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on
>Kastner of collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish
>people in Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing
>exactly what many other Zionist leaders and half-leaders did -
>concealing their knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that
>Jews would board the trains to Auschwitz peacefully while their
>Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different train for Palestine.
>
>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>Silberg:
>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not
>have a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are
>dealing here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make
>judgements on the guilt of others....
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no
>ray of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as
>he, as a result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret
>of the extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue
>of the few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be
>accused of collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the
>extermination of the Jews, even though, in fact, he brought about its
>result.'
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion,
>the decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge
>emanating from the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that
>had they known of the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of
>thousands would have been able
>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom
>money, bribery,etc. - and when this is the case and when one deals
>with many hundreds of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal,
>reject with complete certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency
>of all the many and varied rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of
>thousands of possibilities? Does he decide instead of God? 
>Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer
>to a claim of such good faith...
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he
>will come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he
>as an individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving
>the other patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal
>rescue operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never
>make this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in
>his report to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to
>many ghettos in the countryside and pleaded with them to organize
>escapes and to refuse to board the trains. And though the story of
>these pleadings is untrue, and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is
>proven, the very uttering of these statements entirely contradicts the
>claim that Kastner had concealed the
>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness
>and activity. Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>
>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination machine
>working  smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional
>proofs of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading
>tactics which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of
>occupation.
>
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder. This fact is known to every man and one does not need any
>proof of  evidence for this.
>
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this
>great war criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his
>eyes...I couldn't base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it
>been alone, but when it is attached even from afar to the whole scene
>of events it throws retroactive
>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might
>have been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not
>advocate collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him
>to remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations
>and with an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>pressure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put
>on trial .
>
>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>the  Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not
>Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them
>eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization)
>leadership in Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less
>delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately
>after the appeal hearings were concluded, and before the judgement
>'rehabilitating' him was delivered.
>
>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>of the  Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another
>'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the
>murder trial).
>
>
>sven88



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:10:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
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>On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 20:29:58 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:14:31 -0800, Chris Dollmont 
>>wrote:
>>>intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
>>
>>>> : someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>> : : In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>>>> : : Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.
>>
>>>> Actually it is anti Christian for the Jews to have our cross removed.
>>>> Grosvenor is merely pointing out the atrocity and sacrilege caused by the
>>>> Jews in desecrating our Remembrance day.
>>
>>>The Jews did not have the cross removed from the cenotaph! The only place
>>>that happened was in the mind of one William Grosvenor. Here are the facts:
>>>
>>>1) The cross was removed from the cenotaph.
>>>2) The removal was an attempt to make the cenotaph less 'religious' and open
>>>to more groups.
>>>3) Although Grosvenor fingers Len Dolgoy, the newspaper articles that he
>>>(mis)cites clearly state that, while Dolgoy did bring the matter up, he made
>>>no formal complaint.
>>
>>The Edmonton Journal in interviewing the JEW Dolgoy, quote him as
>>stating that he DID complain.
>>>
>>>Personally, I feel that the removal of the cross is wrong.
>>
>>All Christians are outraged about this one more attempt by the cursed
>>JEWs to desecrate the symbol not only for all the millions of
>>Christians who died, but to desecrate Remembrance Day!!!
>>[File: C:\Program Files\Netscape\files\cenotaph.txt]



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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:40:06 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:28:11 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>>Hitler's Jewish Army
>>>
>>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>>>speaking of World War Two.
>>>
>>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing what
>>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>>
>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>>'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf
>>>Hitler's knowledge and approval.
>>>
>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including
>>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to
>>>100,000 troops."
>>>
>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>>Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's
>>>Cross.
>>>
>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>>
>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish
>>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>>
>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew
>>>and who is an Aryan.''
>>>
>>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>>
>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>>
>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>>(kapos).
>>>
>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>
>>>Sources:
>>>
>>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>>
>>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>>
>>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.



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On 13 Nov 1998 15:08:14 GMT, dsharp673@aol.com (DSharp673) wrote:

>
>The late Samuel Bronfman, Canadian billionaire and ardent Zionist, is
>well-known as a bootlegger during U.S. prohibition and for building the company
>Seagram’s.  Few people, however, realize that this ardent Zionist had huge
>holdings in the oil business.  Here is a summary:
>
>1.  Texas Pacific Oil Co. Inc. & the following subsidiaries:
>
>     a.  Petroleo Pacifico Inc.
>     b.  Texas Pacific India Inc.
>     c.  Texas Pacific International Inc.
>     d.  Texas Pacific Malaysia Inc.
>     e.  Texas Pacific Oil Co. of Guatamala
>     f.  Texas Pacific Oil Co. of Indonesia
>     g.  Texas Pacific Oil Italia Corporation SpA
>
>2.  Ranger Oil
>
>(from "King of the Castle" by Peter C. Newman, published by Atheneum,
>manufactured by American Book-Stratford Press, Saddle Brook, NJ, copyright 1978
>& 1979 by author, ISBN 0-689-10963-6; reference pages  285-292.)
>
>
>NOTE:
>Samuel Bronfman purchased Texas Pacific Oil in 1963 for 50 million dollars.  In
>1980, the Bronfman heirs sold the Texas Pacific Oil holdings to Sun Oil Co. for
>2.3 billion dollars.
>
>(from "Samuel Bronfman - The Life and Times of Seagram’s Mr. Sam" by Michael R.
>Marrus, published by Brandeis University Press of New England, copyright 1991
>by author, ISBN 0-87451-571-8; reference pages 372-373.)
>
>DAVE SHARP



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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:39:08 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:53:01 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:34:37 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:45:54 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>>>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>>>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>>>
>>>They haven't.
>>>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>>>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>>
>>>>David Maddison
>>>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>>
>>>Harold.



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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:40:41 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 09:24:48 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!



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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:34:36 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:42:23 +0930, Tony Hancock
> wrote:
>
>>Peter Lucas wrote:
>>> 
>>> In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>> woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>> **The 'religionist' Australia Israel Review
>>> **obviously has not been influenced by
>>> **'Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and
>>> **publishing their 'list' of One Nation members, but
>>> **by the likes of Adolf Hitler!  The neo-nazi style
>>> **acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as
>>> **distinct from a likely majority of other Jews,
>>> 
>>> I must admit, I was a bit shocked that they did it. I had an instant
>>> feeling of hatred toward all Jews, but upon reflection, realised that it
>>> was only a small bunch of stupid mindless morons who have done this. They
>>> have obviously been sucked into this 'ON are nazis' bullshit. If they have
>>> then they are as stupid as the other sheeple and deserve my utter contempt.
>>> Their act of purile childishness has not changed my feelings toward the
>>> true Jews, as I know they would not lower themselves to such a despicable
>>> act.
>>
>>The jewish (M)ultiCulturalists have demonstrated the pure evil that is
>>(M)ultiCulturalism. The jews have been milking sympathy from the
>>holocaust for all they can get. It has been 50 years later and it is
>>time the Jewish Leaders set an example of tolerance rather than exercise
>>more of the attitude that got their (M)ultiCultural stereotypical group
>>into trouble in the first place.
>>
>>A public apology will suffice.
>>
>>> **need to have a class action taken out against them
>>> **for the crime (among others) of 'common assault'.
>>> 
>>> Hmmmm, I wonder if that is possible. If so, that would give me an avenue to
>>> consider a personal action against a certain person. I'll have to look into
>>> that.
>>> 
>>> Once again, anyone low enough to do such an act is beyond any contempt that
>>> society can muster. It is basically giving any weirdo or whacko out there
>>> an open invitation to do whatever they want.
>>
>>Too right. I am seriously considering exercising my right to keep and
>>bear arms for self defence. There's too many immigrant SCUM in this
>>country....and they don't come from Asia.
>>
>>Cheers
>>Tony Hancock
>>
>>Free Palestine
>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>.
>>.
>>.
>>.



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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:20:52 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>On 12 Oct 1998 20:56:39 GMT, (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:
>
>>Absolutely right, Mr. Grosvenor - very good advice!
>
>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:59:56 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>Since some of the undesirable Jews in Australia have published their
>>Libelers List of people they consider undesirable, for supporting ON,
>>perhaps ON should do similar??
>>
>>Surely the angry citizens of Australia can readily prepare their own
>>list of undesirable Jews, including such Illuminati as the notorious
>>Rappaport, and others of his ilk?? What about drug dealers, white
>>collar criminals, and similar criminals?
>>
>>After all these thousands of years, why would the admittedly
>>genetically inbred creatures (according to their own recent
>>pronouncements regarding DNA proof for jewishness) want to so
>>antagonise a generous host country like Australia?
>>
>>Is there not enough resentment against the people responsible for the
>>murder of Christ?
>>
>>Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>want to generate more?
>>
>>Surely their worldwide attempts at extortion of nations has caused
>>more ill-will?? Even the Swiss, who had provided shelter, but required
>>that the Jews WORK in the 1940's are now having extortion demands!!!
>>
>>Or, is their wish to force the world into another conflagration, so
>>that by the Year 2000, their New World Order can take over what
>>remains of this world?? They are certainly spreading their tentacles
>>in many countries, trying to take control...
>>
>>>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>>>cheers,          PJ
>>
>>>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>>>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>>
>>>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>>>the year 2000!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:12:52 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>>Wood) wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 13:02:46 GMT,
>>>maddison@power.connexus.net.au (David S. Maddison)
>>>wrote:
>>>Thanks for clarifying where you're coming from,
>>>Harold.
>>
>>>Have you considered that your estimation here
>>>might be incorrect? I estimate that my words
>>>probably have given you a false impression
>>>however. :-) 
>>
>>>Here is another angle on my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review in their attempting to
>>>facilitate the vilification (and worse) of ON
>>>members by others (a cowardly act) is in fact
>>>attempting to protect the 'nice little earner'
>>>which the ethnic industry (a major part of their
>>>consituency) has going in Australia.  They
>>>recognise that ON is a direct and immediate threat
>>>to their continuing their enjoyment of the
>>>proceeds of the tax heist perpetrated on pre ON
>>>hapless political 'pincer movement' entrapped
>>>middle income earning Australians by Tweedle
>>>Dumb(LibNat) and Tweedle Dumber(LabRat)).
>>
>>>>Ummm... Was it "The Jews" (tm) that published the list or was it a
>>>>particular individual who happened to be an editor of a
>>>>Jewish-interest magazine?
>>
>>>Some voices among 'the Jews' have now been
>>>raised against that action of the Australia-Israel
>>>Review.  The action of those sensible people must
>>>surely be generally appreciated by all.  A very
>>>wise move by those rightly concerned people
>>>indeed.
>>
>>>>Why blame "The Jews" for the misguided actions of a single individual
>>>>who I am fairly certain now realises that he made a mistake?
>>
>>>Consider my approach a 'media technique'.  One I
>>>highly  disapprove of but acknowledge the efficacy
>>>of.  (Yes that does mean I now temporarily
>>>subscribe to the principle, 'the end justifies the
>>>means'.)
>>
>>>>With the widespread opposition to One Nation, I'd say it was equally
>>>>likely that any other number of other publications might also have
>>>>published it,
>>
>>>They haven't.
>>
>>>> or someone may have posted it to the 'Net.
>>
>>>Here of course mostly 'anything goes'.  That
>>>theory proves nothing for your agument.
>>
>>>>It was certainly wrong to publish the list, if such information wasn't
>>>>already on the public record in the first place.
>>
>>>Yes, wrong but now a help to those who they
>>>oppose.  Quite stupid are they not!  :-)  I wonder
>>>if an IQ test needs to be introduced for all
>>>Australian voters?  
>>
>>>> (Is membership of political parties on the public record?)
>>
>>>No, but you are certainly free to declare one if
>>>you please.  (I am not currently a member of any
>>>party but have belonged in the past to a number.) 
>>
>>>>David Maddison
>>
>>>Hope that helps.  :-)
>>
>>>Now, here is another aspect of my 'yike'.
>>
>>>The arrogance displayed by Australia's now
>>>prolific 'ursurper classes' knows no bounds.
>>
>>>(In the context this time of the arrogance
>>>displayed by the Australia-Israel Review.)
>>
>>> And nor should that come as any surprise to
>>>anyone, that for the reason that the criminal
>>>'politically correct screeching brigade' has long
>>>intimidated our good, polite,  well meaning and
>>>well mannered 'Australian cultured' citizens, thus
>>>effectively preventing them from speaking out
>>>loudly enough about their such gross maltreatment.
>>
>>>The Australia-Israel Review's stupid move in
>>>publishing those names was undoubtedly a
>>>reflection of  their verging hysterical panic
>>>reaction to the realisation that their
>>>constituency's 'game' just might be about to be
>>>up!  Also it likely was a manifestation of their
>>>failure to see that it is actually possible,
>>>despite their getting away with it for years, for
>>>their instinctual arrogance at some time to get
>>>them into very deep and dangerous water indeed.
>>
>>>Harold.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:07:13 +1000, Mr_I@TIO>not.awww....
>>(Mr.Interesting) wrote:
>>
>>>In article <35a35535.8370350@news.eagles.bbs.net.au>,
>>>woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold Wood) wrote:
>>>
>>>> JEWISH NAZIS!
>>>> 
>>>> How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>>> peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>>
>>>
>>>Shouldn't that be "Oingo Boingo"?
>>>
>>>Doesn't Hebraic tradition have a saying that goes along the lines of 
>>>"Be careful who you hate, because you'll end up being just like them".
>>>
>>>They're behaving like Nazi's in Palestine (let's call it by it's real name
>>>shall we, that is unless you STILL believe that the bible isn't one of the
>>>most successful pieces of Politico-Religious Propagandistic Re-writes of
>>>the Past AND the Future?...).
>>>
>>>Funny thing is, the ones who are causing all the troubles, ie the
>>>Ultra-Orthodox Right wing and Likud parties, apart from being
>>>DOLE-BLUDGERS in Israel, are also CONVENIENTLY EXEMPT from military
>>>service, or from facing the bullets and bombs, that they demand their
>>>fellow secular countrymen face(some of which, by the way, are planted by
>>>Orthodox jews, killing ordinary jews, to stir up a bit more hatred).
>>>
>>>I find it quite strange that the majority of Israeli's are secular and
>>>want peace, but allow themselves to be kept in a state of terror, NOT by
>>>Palestinians, but by OTHER JEWS!.  WHO DON'T WORK.  WHO DON'T HAVE TO DO
>>>MILITARY SERVICE.  WHO ASSASSINATED THE PRESIDENT who was going to deliver
>>>peace.
>>>
>>>And while we're here, Don't the cries of the UNIONISTS in Ireland, that
>>>they need protection from CATHOLIC TERRORISM start to sound a bit hollow
>>>now?  I think nearly every act of terrorism (inc. Murder) since the
>>>referendum has been against Catholics.
>>>
>>>AAhhhhh........ Religion, even when it's the SAME GOD, there's still
>>>enough difference to go out and KKKIIILLLLLL SSOMEONE, and feel good about
>>>it.
>>>
>>>The Pope wears Orange stockings and suspenders.



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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:03:05 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:20:47 +1000, Grant Watson 
>wrote:
>>kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>> >Did the more than 100 millions killed in the interests of Jew
>>> >communism in this century alone, not create enough enemies, that they
>>> >want to generate more?
>
>>Please explain to me the concept of "Jew communism".....
>
>
>Hopefully the article following is enough, or do you want more?
>
>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>
>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>
>
>>Clancy wrote:
>
>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>
>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>
>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>
>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>
>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>> the murderer).
>
>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>> sentiment.
>
>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
> 
>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>
>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
> 
>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>
>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>
>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
> 
>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>> Police.
>
>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>> peasants in Spain.
> 
>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>
>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>
>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
> 
>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>> Meadow).
>
>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>> Julius Rosenwald.
> 
>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>
>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
> 
>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
> 
>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>> member of the Central Committee.
>
>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
> 
>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
> 
>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
> 
>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
> 
>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
> 
>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
> 
>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
> 
>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>> LEON KASMAN,
> 
>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
> 
>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
> 
>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>> raised.
> 
>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
> 
>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
> 
>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
> 
>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
> 
>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>> 1992).
> 
>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
> 
>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
> 
>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
> 
>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
> 
>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
> 
>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>      world-wide social revolution."
> 
>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
> 
>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
> 
>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
> 
>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
> 
>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
> 
>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
> 
>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
> 
>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>> 414 New York (1937):
> 
>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
> 
>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
> 
>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>      Judaism."
> 
>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>
>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>
>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
> 
>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
> 
>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
> 
>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>      executioners."
>
>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>
>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
> 
>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
> 
>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>> Jewesses.
>
>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
> 
>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>> people."
>
>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
> 
>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
> 
>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
> 
>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
> 
>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
> 
>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
> 
>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>
>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>> government-funded."
>
>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
> 
>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
> 
>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>sven88



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:10:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 20:29:58 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:14:31 -0800, Chris Dollmont 
>>wrote:
>>>intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
>>
>>>> : someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>> : : In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>>>> : : Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.
>>
>>>> Actually it is anti Christian for the Jews to have our cross removed.
>>>> Grosvenor is merely pointing out the atrocity and sacrilege caused by the
>>>> Jews in desecrating our Remembrance day.
>>
>>>The Jews did not have the cross removed from the cenotaph! The only place
>>>that happened was in the mind of one William Grosvenor. Here are the facts:
>>>
>>>1) The cross was removed from the cenotaph.
>>>2) The removal was an attempt to make the cenotaph less 'religious' and open
>>>to more groups.
>>>3) Although Grosvenor fingers Len Dolgoy, the newspaper articles that he
>>>(mis)cites clearly state that, while Dolgoy did bring the matter up, he made
>>>no formal complaint.
>>
>>The Edmonton Journal in interviewing the JEW Dolgoy, quote him as
>>stating that he DID complain.
>>>
>>>Personally, I feel that the removal of the cross is wrong.
>>
>>All Christians are outraged about this one more attempt by the cursed
>>JEWs to desecrate the symbol not only for all the millions of
>>Christians who died, but to desecrate Remembrance Day!!!
>>[File: C:\Program Files\Netscape\files\cenotaph.txt]



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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:40:06 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:45:01 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:54:47 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>>Bill of Rights.
>>
>>
>>
>>The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
>>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>>Government of Cuba!!
>>
>>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>>
>>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>>
>>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>>they stop stealing mail!!!
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>
>>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>
>>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>>
>>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>
>>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>
>>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>
>>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>>campaign.
>>
>>>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>>>THEM!!!
>>
>>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>>>at Canada Post include:
>>
>>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>>
>>>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>>
>>>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>
>>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>
>>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>
>>>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>>disappearing!!!
>>
>>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>>>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>>
>>
>>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>>
>>>>>Read all the articles below!!!
>>
>>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>>stolen.
>>
>>
>>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>>
>>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>>
>>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>>
>>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>>been arrested.
>>
>>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>>
>>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>>mail.
>>
>>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>>
>>
>>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>>
>>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>>
>>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>>Registered items!!!!
>>
>>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>>
>>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>>
>>
>>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Rainer,
>>
>>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>>
>>
>>>>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>>
>>>>"Canadian Mail Warning
>>
>>>>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>>tip of the iceberg.
>>
>>>>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>>
>>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>>>>substantial losses.
>>
>>>>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>>pay the higher cost.
>>
>>>>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>>>>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>>
>>>>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>>
>>>>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>> writes
>>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>>
>>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>>letters?
>>
>>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>>
>>
>>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>>USPS.
>>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>>as other media.



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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:34:56 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

>> On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:59:28 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >On the other hand, if Grosvenor continues to insist this 52 *pound* sack was
>> >full of valuable computer software, which he was trying to send to the
>> >Government of Cuba, perhaps someone could ask Senators Helms and Burton to
>> >look into the issue.  Grosvenor was nice enough to point out that all the
>> >relevant information (i.e., his full legal identity) is in the Alberta Court
>> >Docket #P9890306082.
>> >Sven
>>
>> I guess the piece of feces calling itself Sven does not remember that
>> Canada is NOT part of the USA!!!
>
>Of course Canada is not part of the U.S., but that's the great thing about
>the Helms-Burton Act, isn't it Billy?  It applies to citizens of any country
>who break the embargo with Cuba.  You won't know a warrant exists for your
>arrest until you try entering the U.S. years hence, at which point you learn
>what "Zero Tolerance" means.
On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
Bill of Rights.



The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
Government of Cuba!!

Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
they stop stealing mail!!!


>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!

>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.

>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!

>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.

>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.

>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>campaign.

>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>THEM!!!

>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>at Canada Post include:

>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number

>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number

>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440

>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.

>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>this story, together with your complaints.

>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>disappearing!!!

>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.


>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.

>>>Read all the articles below!!!

>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>stolen.


>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.

>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.

>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.

>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>been arrested.

>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.

>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>mail.

>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.


>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:

>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>OTTAWA - CANADA

>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>Registered items!!!!

>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada

>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.


>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>wrote:

>>>>Rainer,

>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.


>>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:

>>"Canadian Mail Warning

>>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>tip of the iceberg.

>>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,

>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>>substantial losses.

>>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>pay the higher cost.

>>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"

>>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net

>>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>> writes
>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?

>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>letters?

>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com


>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>USPS.
>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>as other media.
sven 88


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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:18:57 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>>On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:52:15 -0400, "[Unknown sender]"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Hide your crimes behind the holohoax!
>>>
>>>Date: Monday, 22-Dec-97 06:45 PM
>>>
>>>Subject: 6 Indicted in Fraud Over Use of Grants for Hasidic Groups
>>>
>>>   Excerpt:
>>>
>>>   The Federal subpoenas are "...remindful of the Holocaust that many in
>>>   this community endured decades ago."
>>>
>>>   By BENJAMIN WEISER N.Y. Times May 29, 1997 (Metro section only)
>>>
>>>   NEW YORK -- Five members of a Hasidic community in Rockland County and
>>>   one in Brooklyn were indicted Wednesday on charges that they
>>>   systematically defrauded the federal and state governments of tens of
>>>   millions of dollars in student loans, business assistance and housing
>>>   subsidies.
>>>
>>>   In one scheme, according to federal prosecutors, a Talmudic seminary in
>>>   Brooklyn was financed almost entirely by federal Pell grants awarded to
>>>   ineligible or nonexistent students. The defendants also looted state
>>>   student aid programs, Small Business Administration programs and the
>>>   federal Section 8 housing program, prosecutors said.
>>>
>>>   The plans, the authorities said, were used to enrich the defendants but
>>>   also to benefit the community institutions of New Square, the Rockland
>>>   County village, along with the yeshiva in New Square.
>>>
>>>   In a broad indictment unsealed Wednesday in Manhattan, the U.S.
>>>   attorney's office depicted a vast scheme by which the six men and others
>>>   enrolled thousands of New Square and Brooklyn residents in post-secondary
>>>   education programs in Jewish seminaries and Rockland County Community
>>>   College in order to fraudulently obtain money through federal Pell
>>>   grants, which are awarded to needy post-secondary students.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said that most of the students were not eligible for the
>>>   grants, did not get their degrees and, in some cases, enrolled after
>>>   recruiters promised them hundreds of dollars a year. Prosecutors said
>>>   that one Brooklyn seminary program fraudulently got $10.3 million in Pell
>>>   grants "on behalf of its purported students."
>>>
>>>   The government's investigation has been no secret in the tightly knit
>>>   community of about 6,000 in New Square, which consists almost entirely of
>>>   Hasidim. News of the indictment drew sharp criticism there Wednesday. A
>>>   statement by village representatives contended that the U.S. attorney in
>>>   Manhattan, Mary Jo White, had a "vendetta" against New Square residents,
>>>   and that federal agents had earlier scared small children there by
>>>   serving subpoenas at 6 a.m. "in a manner remindful of the Holocaust that
>>>   many in this community endured decades ago."
>>>
>>>   Rabbi Mayer Schiller, (1) who said he was a spokesman for the residents,
>>>   said he was certain that the accusations would be proven false. "They
>>>   have imposed a reign of terror on this entire community," he said,
>>>   referring to the federal prosecutors."
>>>
>>>   Ms. White responded by citing an earlier phase of the investigation when,
>>>   in 1995, a federal judge held the Yeshiva of New Square in contempt of
>>>   court for failing to obey a grand jury subpoena for its bank records and
>>>   other documents, which led to a $1 million fine paid by the yeshiva.
>>>
>>>   "Given the repeated efforts to obstruct the grand jury's investigation,"
>>>   she said, "the response and accusations of unfair treatment are
>>>   disheartening, but not surprising."
>>>
>>>   The indictment was vague about just how the money was put to use, and
>>>   just how much ended up back in the community.
>>>
>>>   Schiller said that New Square was founded in 1957 by four Holocaust
>>>   survivors, including Chaim Berger, one of the defendants named in
>>>   Wednesday's indictment.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said Berger had been a member of the village's board of
>>>   trustees and the board of the Yeshiva of New Square, and was chairman of
>>>   the board of the Brooklyn seminary, Toldos Yakov Yosef, where many of the
>>>   New Square and Brooklyn students receiving Pell grants were enrolled.
>>>
>>>   The indictment asserted that Berger and two other of the seminary's
>>>   administrators, Kalmen Stern and David Goldstein, created a false picture
>>>   of the seminary's programs. The indictment said they falsified resumes,
>>>   minutes of the board meetings and reviews of student progress to get
>>>   federal money.
>>>
>>>   The seminary was financed "almost exclusively" by Pell grants awarded to
>>>   the school on behalf of its "alleged" students from 1987 to 1993, the
>>>   indictment said, but in reality, it added, the school enrolled students
>>>   who did not meet the requirements, were not seeking a degree, and did not
>>>   take tests or even take part in any actual program of study.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said that in the early 1980s, Berger and others helped
>>>   create a program for "independent Judaic Studies" for New Square students
>>>   at Rockland County Community College.
>>>
>>>   From 1982 to 1988, thousands of students were enrolled, and most got Pell
>>>   grants and state tuition aid. The indictment said that many of these
>>>   students were also not eligible for aid, and in some cases, did not even
>>>   know they were enrolled.
>>>
>>>   "Some New Square and Brooklyn residents were enrolled in as many as five
>>>   different educational institutions, and received Pell Grants for as many
>>>   as 10 or more years, without ever receiving any degree or any certificate
>>>   reflecting that they had completed a program of study," the indictment
>>>   said.
>>>
>>>   Besides Berger and Stern, the indictment charged three other New Square
>>>   residents, Jacob Elbaum; Berger's son, Benjamin, and Avrum D.  Friesel
>>>   who, according to Schiller, is the son of New Square's mayor.  Goldstein,
>>>   the sixth defendant, lives in Brooklyn.
>>>
>>>   None of the defendants or their lawyers could be reached for comment
>>>   Wednesday. Gerald Shargel, a lawyer for the Yeshiva of New Square, said
>>>   he could not comment on the specifics of the case.
>>>
>>>



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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:39:43 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:58:12 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Subject: Canada Post Managers Can STEAL MAIL!!!
>>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:38 GMT
>>
>>
>>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>>Bill of Rights.
>>
>>
>>
>>The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
>>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>>Education department of the Government of Cuba!!
>>
>>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>>
>>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>>
>>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>>they stop stealing mail!!!
>>
>>Surely the managers in Canada Post are not being paid by the CIA to
>>steal mail sent to Cuba??
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>
>>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>>foreign government department. (The Education department of the Government of Cuba)
>>>>The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>>
>>
>>>> One must wonder whether the CIA have "arranged" to have items for Cuba 
>>>>stolen by Canada Post managers???
>>
>>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>
>>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>
>>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>
>>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>>campaign.
>>
>>>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>>>THEM!!!
>>
>>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>>>at Canada Post include:
>>
>>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>>
>>>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>>
>>>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>
>>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>
>>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>
>>>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>>mail to and from Canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it disappearing!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 05:35:51 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>Will the US now be able to use the payoff to the bankrupt Canadian
>>>insurance company, Confederation Life, as the legal precedent to make
>>>Sherritt pay for the theft of the assets of freeport-McMoran??
>>
>>>>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:27:39 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>It seems that the payoff to the bankrupt Canuck insurance company, now
>>>>>sets a legal precedent for Freeport McMoran to collect both from
>>>>>Sherritt, and the Cuban government in the World Court.
>>
>>>>>This should create some interesting situations vis a vis the
>>>>>Canadian/US relations, what???
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>>>>Life Insurance??
>>
>>>>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>>>>YEARS??
>>
>>>>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million - crooks in Canada, or in
>>>>>>Cuba??
>>
>>>>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>>>>reparations??
>>
>>>>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>>
>>>>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>>
>>>On 8 Jul 1998 14:46:25 GMT, ricardoag@aol.com (Ricardoag) wrote:
>> 
>>>>Wednesday, July 8, 1998 
>>
>>>>Helms won't let Sherritt off the hook 
>>
>>>>By PETER MORTON 
>>>>Washington Bureau Chief The Financial Post 
>>>> Sherritt International Corp. and other foreign companies now in Cuba are
>>>>playing a pivotal role in whether a U.S.-European Union deal on investment on
>>>>the island will be approved by Congress, industry and government sources say. 
>>>> Senator Jesse Helms, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is
>>>>demanding Toronto-based Sherritt and other companies already swept up by the
>>>>Helms-Burton law continue to be punished, sources said yesterday. 
>>
>>>> "Sherritt is seen as the poster boy of Helms-Burton and Helms does not want to
>>>>see Sherritt off the hook," said one industry source close to the U.S.-EU
>>>>negotiations. 
>>
>>>> Helms is worried the deal signed by the U.S. and the EU in May would
>>>>essentially "immunize" Sherritt and others operating on expropriated property
>>>>since any new penalties imposed by the U.S. would be only on investment in Cuba
>>>>since then, the source said. 
>>
>>>> "In fact, under the final text of the understanding, a current investor would
>>>>even retain the right to pass this property to another EU investor who, in
>>>>turn, could use this stolen property in perpetuity ­ all with the blessing of
>>>>the U.S. government," Helms and Benjamin Gilman, chairman of the House
>>>>Committee on International Relations, said in a June 17 letter to Secretary of
>>>>State Madeline Albright. 
>>
>>>> Sherritt is the largest single foreign investor in property in Cuba
>>>>expropriated by President Fidel Castro in 1959. It is mining nickel on property
>>>>formerly owned by Freeport-McMoRan Inc. of New Orleans. 
>>
>>>> So far, Sherritt is the one of two foreign companies to be swept up in
>>>>Helms-Burton. Its executives, along with those from an Israeli fruit company,
>>>>have been barred from entering the U.S. under the Helms-Burton law. No European
>>>>companies have fallen under Helms-Burton. 
>>
>>>> EU Trade Commissioner Sir Leon Brittan said yesterday there is no chance the
>>>>deal would be re-negotiated to meet Helms's concerns. 
>>>> "We're not agreeable to modifying the agreement," he said. 
>>>> The EU is waiting for the U.S. Congress to approve the pact, although Brittan
>>>>said he did not receive any indication on when legislation would even be
>>>>presented to Congress. 
>>
>>>> The proposed U.S.-EU deal would give President Bill Clinton the right to waive
>>>>that part of Helms-Burton, called Title III. He has already waived Title IV,
>>>>the section that would allow U.S. companies and citizens to sue foreign
>>>>companies for operating on what was once their property in Cuba. There are
>>>>5,911 U.S.-recognized claims and lawsuits could be expected to reach billions
>>>>of dollars. 
>>
>>>> The agreement would also enable European companies to invest in Iran and Libya
>>>>if the EU ensured the two countries' terrorism campaigns were not being
>>>>supported. 
>>
>>>> So far, Ottawa has not signed on to the proposed deal, insisting it is still
>>>>looking into the complex agreement, said Leslie Swartman, a spokeswoman for
>>>>Trade Minister Sergio Marchi. 
>>
>>>> But Canadian government sources said what happens to Sherritt is a key
>>>>consideration in whether the federal government would go along with the U.S.-EU
>>>>agreement, try to negotiate a separate deal with the U.S. or simply stay away. 
>>>> "There is no doubt Sherritt is one consideration," an official said. 
>>>> The EU agreed not only not to fund any private venture on confiscated property
>>>>in Cuba nor on confiscated property anywhere in the world, something Helms is
>>>>looking for, said Robert Muse, a Washington lawyer specializing in Cuba. 
>>>> "Jesse Helms wants to see such an agreement reached," he said. 
>>>>       ricardo a. gonzalez              



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:37:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:04:09 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:13:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>>>>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>>>>>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>>>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>>>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>>>>>> answer??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>>>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>>>>>>> >               letters?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>>>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>>>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>>>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>>>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>>>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>>>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>>>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>>>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>>>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>>>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>>>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>>>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>>>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>>>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>>>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>>>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>>>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>>>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>>>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>>>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with 'loan' grants or
>>>>>>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>>>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>>>>>>> >their way into White America's good nature and generousity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >NO MORE!  The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>>>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>>>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>>>>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
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>>>>>>>>
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On Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:36:12 -0500, Anonymous
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>Proposed Holocaust Wing Sparks Furor
>
>OTTAWA, Ont. (CP)--A controversial plan to construct a Holocaust 
>wing in the Canadian Cricket Hall of Fame (CCHF) has erupted into 
>a heated debate which has pitted veteran cricket players against 
>Jewish organizations and opened a dark chapter in Canada's past.
>
>The controversy began last February with CCHF historian Fred 
>Gaffenstein's proposal for a Holocaust memorial to focus 
>attention on "widespread anti-Semitism in Canada," which "had the 
>worst record of any Western country when it came to accepting 
>Jews, and one of the most forgiving when it came to accepting 
>Nazi war criminals. The Holocaust wing will serve as a permanent 
>reminder of our guilt, especially for young cricket fans."
>
>Veteran cricketers reacted angrily to Gaffenstein's proposal, 
>which has been championed by Jewish organizations and enjoys the 
>support of most local politicians.
>
>The Canadian Cricket Hall of Fame is located in a third-story 
>apartment above an Ottawa laundromat. Veterans claim the proposed 
>Holocaust wing would displace the small number of exhibits the 
>museum currently displays and divert attention from the often 
>neglected accomplishments of Canadian cricket players.
>
>Archibald Robertson, octogenarian president of the Canadian 
>Cricket Association, was surprised at the flurry of accusations 
>directed against his group, which has spearheaded the campaign 
>against the Gaffenstein plan amid charges of racism and Holocaust 
>denial.
>
>"Some of my best friends are Jews, so I'm no anti-Semite," 
>Robertson said. "But for the life of me I don't see why we need a 
>Holocaust memorial in a small cricket museum."
>
>The Gaffenstein plan would relocate four of the museum's five 
>exhibits to a garage behind the laundromat and would replace them 
>with Holocaust memorabilia and a multimedia exhibit on the 
>history of anti-Semitism. Robertson and other veterans fear the 
>the CCHF will be unable to fulfil its original purpose as a 
>result of the proposed reorganization.
>
>Prof. Irving Abella, past president of the Canadian Jewish 
>Congress (CJC) and author of a number of influential studies on 
>anti-Semitism in Canadian sports, expressed dismay at the 
>veterans' opposition to the Holocaust wing.
> 
>"Frankly, as a historian I am shocked at their insensitivity," 
>Abella said in an address yesterday before a packed and often 
>raucous meeting of the Shoah Advocacy League. "In the 1940s 
>Canadians were playing cricket while Jews were being gassed and 
>turned into soap. And not a single cricket player spoke out. It 
>is a shameful legacy."
> 
>CJC Community Relations director Bernie Farber was more blunt in 
>his dismissal of the ageing veterans' protests. "Pretty soon 
>all these old white guys will be dead. If we don't get our 
>Holocaust wing this time, we'll have it soon enough."
>
>"You can never have too many Holocaust museums," Farber added. "I 
>look forward to the day when there are memorials to the Shoah in 
>gas stations and amusement parks."



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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:15:20 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:03:43 GMT, asumat@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>>ARE THE ROTHSCHILD BEHIND THE CONSPIRACY?
>>By: Efraim Menashe
>>
>>
>>Jerusalem, Israel--It isn't easy being a conspiracy researcher- let
>>alone a Jewish conspiracy researcher- when so many Jews are involved
>>in political intrigue and world domination. This is a fact any
>>objective thinker must conclude- whether the researcher is a Jew or
>>not. As a Jew, the decision is harder to accept.
>>
>>But I guess I am an objective thinker before I am a Jew, and for that
>>reason I am prepared to publicly admit to all who are reading that
>>indeed, there is a conspiracy to control and dominate the world, and
>>that many, many Jews play, and have played a role, in that conspiracy.
>>For this is not speculation, it is fact. The names are well known to
>>all:  Rothschild, Warburg, George Soros, Henry Kissinger, the
>>Bronfmans, Jacob Shiff, Bernard Baruch, Judah Benjamin, etc. However,
>>one must remember that included in the conspiracy are also the
>>Rockefellers, J.P. Morgan, Cecil Rhodes, the British Royal Family, the
>>Vatican, the French and Italian members of the "NWO planning
>>committee." Most of the players in the NWO arena are not Jews, if all
>>the members are included.
>>
>>The problem is that for some reason only the Rothschilds are
>>associated with being behind the creation of "the Illuminati." All the
>>conspiracy literature points the sole finger at this family for
>>creating the Illuminati and causing revolutions in France, Russia, the
>>US, the murder of Lincoln, the creation of the Federal Reserve, the
>>crash of l929, the Bank of England, two World Wars: in fact,
>>everything that supposedly happens in the NWO is carried out via
>>"agents of Rothschild." It is quite amazing how every conspiracy
>>researcher whether it is Tex Marrs, David Icke, Guradas, Ralph
>>Epperson, Eustice Mullins, John Coleman, it doesn't matter from which
>>perspective they came to understand the grand conspiracy, they all
>>agree on one thing that is that the "Rothschilds who are behind
>>everything."
>>
>>The Schiffs, the Warburgs, Bernard Baruch, are said to be "agents of
>>Rothschilds" but this may only mean that no other higher chain of
>>command has been identified. None of these so-called agents ever
>>admitted to being an agent, nor do we really know if they were. The
>>way the conspiracy is described in the revisionist view of history, it
>>is just assumed that they are, as it is assumed that the Rothschilds
>>are behind the creation of the Illuminati. I have yet to see any proof
>>that this is the case. I am not suggesting that the Rothschilds are
>>not players in the NWO, only that they are far from being the only
>>ones and it has never been shown by any conspiracy researcher that
>>they are indeed, "Chairmen of the Board."
>>
>>It is possible that the Rothschilds agreed to have all the blame
>>placed on them so there would be an outlet for those observant people
>>who discovered the conspiracy. The family appears to have accepted
>>that they would be blamed for the conspiracy and this would cause an
>>increase in anti-semitism. The Rothschilds may have gone along with
>>this in order to gain more power in the circle of powerbrokers.
>>
>>It doesn't seem to occur to the the Rothschilds' accusers that the
>>likelihood of so much power being accumulated by one family is
>>infinitely remote. What is never asked is "What was so special about
>>the policies of the Rothschilds?"  So they lent money to kings.
>>Couldn't other rich people do that? How come no king ever tried to
>>kill one of them to get rid of his debt? There is no recorded event
>>anywhere of any type of opposition to Rothschilds' evil practices. Why
>>not? the Knights Templer made enemies and were defeated by their
>>enemies. How come the Rothschilds had no enemies who took revenge?
>>How is it possible that a family dynasty can attain such power and
>>wealth and yet have no enemies?
>>
>>Another question which needs to be answered is: "Did the Rothschilds
>>run the Illuminati on their own?" Did they alone create all the
>>intrigue and figure out all the plots and carry out the plans to cause
>>the revolutions and wars?
>>
>>The running of the conspiracy is so complex, it defies all logic to
>>suggest that it can be managed by just only one family. They must have
>>had promoters and advocates who were prepared to go along with them.
>>Yet there isn't one recorded event of a rebellion by the people who
>>were following them or any other powerbroker competing for the top
>>spot. The so-called Rothschilds' agents, Schiff, Benjamin, Warburg,
>>Baruch, all went along without any challenge Rothschilds' leadership.
>>Why? Since when has such power entrenched in one family not met with
>>opposition?
>>
>>If the conspiracy theory that the Rothschilds with the Illuminati
>>created the French revolution is true, and that the War of 1812, the
>>Civil War, murder of Abraham Lincoln, the Russian revolution, the
>>Russian-Japan war were Rothschild inspired, how is it that hrough all
>>of these years the family was able to keep themselves so completely
>>hidden from the public and free of blame? Why are they so untouchable?
>>Perhaps the near "supermen" status many conspiracy researchers give
>>the Rothschilds needs to be reevaluated. It simply isn't possible for
>>one family to be so powerful over a period of 200 years and for one
>>family to control everything the way conspiracy researchers present
>>it.
>>
>>I am prepared to buy that the Rothschilds from their beginnings are
>>one of the world's lowest form of lifes and responsible for the death
>>of hundreds of millions of people, Jews included. They may even be a
>>devil worshipers.  The entire family is a shame to the Jewish people.
>>They have no love for the Jewish people and they have caused much
>>hardship for their brethren.  So they are criminals but they are just
>>one powerful family out of many.  Why are they being singled out as
>>sitting on top of the heap? Who are all the others that we don't hear
>>about?
>>
>>How could one family have become so powerful that even the Kings of
>>Europe they were lending money to never tried to eliminate the debt by
>>eliminating the moneylender? Certainly these heads of state had the
>>means, militarily and in other ways, to handle the Rothschilds in
>>order not to have to repay debts. However no proof exists anywhere to
>>prove that the Rothschilds were behind the creation of the Illuminati.
>>
>>My point is that they may have been involved in the affair, but they
>>aren't the sole architects of the conspiracy.
>>
>>Fellow conspiracy researchers: there is no Jewish conspiracy. There
>>are plenty of Jews wrapped up in the quest for a NWO, but to ascribe
>>the entire agenda to a small group of Jews, is plainly wrong. The
>>anti-Semites like to point out "how powerful the Jews are", but are
>>the Jews as a people so powerful or is a tiny group of Jews dominating
>>the power?
>>
>>Are these Jews really the ones in charge of the entire agenda to
>>enslave the world? Hardly. The notion that there is a cabal of Jews
>>who sit together once a year and decide how to control the world, and
>>they do this on behalf of some Jewish entity, or Israel, is what we
>>are asked to believe. If such a cabal exists, and the anti-Semites say
>>it has existed for centuries, then where is one recorded historical
>>event of a group of Jews assembling to plan their control over the
>>world? There is no proof anywhere showing that The Protocols of Zion
>>was describing a group of Jews intent on dominating the world so they,
>>the Jews, would be kings. Indeed the protocols was probably an
>>accurate description of a group of people bent on world domination.
>>There may have been some Jews sitting at the table. I believe that. I
>>just don't believe that the majority were Jews.  If not, then who are
>>the others? Who sits at that table other than the selected Jewish
>>powerbrokers?
>>
>>There are Jews involved in the conspiracy to subject the world to a
>>one-world government, no question of that, yet none of them are
>>representing any Jews other than themselves. We know the Jewish masses
>>are wonderful, hardworking educated people. The select few who are
>>rich and are powerbrokers are a disgrace and should be exposed. How
>>Israel's leadership has been thoroughly compromised and corrupted by
>>the international Jewish powerbrokers should also be exposed. Rich,
>>powerful Jews abroad exploit Israel for the gain of the people they
>>work for. If these truths were exposed at least the issue would be
>>confronted and the wound could, at least, start to heal.
>>
>>Unlike the majority of Jews, I have no reason to respect people like
>>George Soros or Edgar Bronfman. They don't represent anyone other than
>>other powerbrokers. I offer no guilt for these people. They are
>>gangsters and like all other gangsters, they need to be punished. It
>>smears the entire Jewish people for these people to claim they are
>>"Jewish leaders."  I'm one Jew/Israeli who never voted for Bronfman
>>and object to his involvement in Jewish affairs and Israeli diplomacy.
>>Jews like Soros and Bronfman are a cancer in the body of the Jewish
>>people and to the state of Israel. I'm all for exposing these
>>criminals and letting them face justice. Perhaps that's the difference
>>between me and the rest of my fellow Jews: I don't care if we "wash
>>our dirty laundry in front of the goyim," we need to wash our dirty
>>laundry in front of ourselves.
>>
>>That, fellow conspiracy researchers, is where I end my apologies. I
>>don't believe there is a Jewish conspiracy or ever was. What happened
>>was that many rich and unscrupulous Jews throughout the past 300 years
>>were prepared to take the blame for the conspiracy in exchange for
>>power and influence. They believed that a little exploitation of your
>>fellow Jews wasn't such a high price to pay if it meant personal
>>advancement. Edgar Bronfman and George Soros were the Baruchs and
>>Warburgs of a generation ago. Nothing changes in the conspiracy. Jews
>>play in the game today as they did then. However I am not sure they
>>are in charge today anymore than they were then.
>>
>>Let's not forget that the Vatican, the French, German, and Italian
>>families, and the existing Monarchies in Europe, are still major
>>sources of political and economic power in the world. The Jews are
>>just one player in a game with many players. The only difference is
>>that the Jews and Israel ARE in the news and identifiable.  Thus it's
>>easy to point the finger at the Jews because they stand out due to
>>their economic strength.  The others remain hidden behind thrones and
>>Churches and a European tradition of secrecy. The Jews are featured in
>>the mainstream media while everything the Vatican and the others do
>>are held in secret so names are not recognizable.
>>
>>No fellow researchers, the Jews don't control the NWO. This conclusion
>>may not be accepted by the Spotlight crowd who are looking for the
>>simple answer and to them, it is just to blame the Jews for world
>>domination.  This is what the non-Jewish NWO players have planned and
>>executed as a cunning policy to keep their plan for a one-world
>>government secret: When it is threatened with exposure, get a few
>>stooges to "blame the Jews" then have a few other dupes point the
>>finger at the stooges and scream "anti-Semite."
>>
>>While the Spotlight crowd may not be capable of realizing how they are
>>being duped, I hope all other sincere conspiracy researchers begin to
>>question their basic contention that "the Rothschilds are behind the
>>conspiracy to dominate the world." While the Rothschilds may be
>>members of the team, they are far from being a one-man show.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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In fact, Canada Post received a  diplomatic protest from South Africa
earlier this year, also in connection with interference with mail from
SA to Canada!!!

It seems the managers at canada Post just like to steal mail, knowing
they are immune from prosecution, even when caught stealing!!!


On Sun, 08 Nov 1998 01:48:55 -0800, Audrius Tomonis
 wrote:

>Big mess with stealing mail in South Africa too.
>
>sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:51:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 30 Oct 1998 15:47:29 GMT, kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay
>> >SOB) wanted to write the following rather than supporting the thieves
>> >in Canada Post:
>> >
>> >On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>> >Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>> >Bill of Rights.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>> >COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
>> >mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>> >Government of Cuba!!
>> >
>> >Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>> >
>> >No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>> >STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>> >
>> >Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>> >they stop stealing mail!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>> >>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>> >
>> >>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>> >>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>> >>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>> >>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>> >>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>> >>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>> >
>> >>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>> >>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>> >>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>> >>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>> >
>> >>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>> >>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>> >>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>> >
>> >>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>> >>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>> >>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>> >>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>> >
>> >>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>> >>>campaign.
>> >
>> >>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>> >>>THEM!!!
>> >
>> >>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>> >>>at Canada Post include:
>> >
>> >>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>> >>>     Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>> >
>> >>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>> >>>     Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>> >
>> >>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>> >
>> >>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>> >>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>> >
>> >>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>> >>>this story, together with your complaints.
>> >
>> >>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>> >>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>> >>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>> >>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>> >>>disappearing!!!
>> >
>> >>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>> >>>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>> >>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>> >>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>> >
>> >>>>Read all the articles below!!!
>> >
>> >>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>> >>>>stolen.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>> >>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>> >
>> >>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>> >>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>> >
>> >>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>> >
>> >>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>> >>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>> >>>>>been arrested.
>> >
>> >>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>> >>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>> >
>> >>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>> >>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>> >>>>>mail.
>> >
>> >>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>> >>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>> >>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>> >>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>> >>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>> >
>> >>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>> >>>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>> >>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>> >>>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>> >
>> >>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>> >>>>Registered items!!!!
>> >
>> >>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>> >
>> >>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>> >>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>> >>>>wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>>Rainer,
>> >
>> >>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June
>> >>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>> >
>> >>>"Canadian Mail Warning
>> >
>> >>>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>> >>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>> >>>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>> >>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>> >>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>> >>>tip of the iceberg.
>> >
>> >>>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal
>> >>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>> >
>> >>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>> >>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>> >>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>> >>>substantial losses.
>> >
>> >>>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>> >>>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>> >>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail
>> >>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>> >>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must
>> >>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>> >>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>> >>>pay the higher cost.
>> >
>> >>>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>> >>>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>> >
>> >>>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>> >
>> >>>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>> >>>>> writes
>> >>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>> >>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>> >
>> >>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>> >>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>> >>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>> >>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>> >>>>>>letters?
>> >
>> >>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>> >>>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>> >>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>> >>>>USPS.
>> >>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>> >>>>as other media.
>> >
>
>



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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:42:26 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>Since in WWII, the JEW Zionists were allied to the Nazis, your comment
>is incorrect.
>
>
>2 spies for the JEW Mossad  terrorist organisation tried last Thursday
>to murder Hamas leader Khaled Meshal, in Jordan.
>
>According to news reports, the 2 criminals, using Canadian passports,
>used some form of injecting device when they tried to murder the
>popular Hamas chief.
>
>The Candian government is trying to distance itself from the criminalk
>activities of the Israeli Mossad, but it is presently unclear whether
>the Jew terrorists were in fact Canadians, or whether the canadian
>government is again issuing false passports, as it did for the 6 CIA
>agents in Tehran under Joe Clark!!!
>
>One MUST wonder, what is the active involvement of the Canadian
>Government in the worldwide terrorism of the JEWS???
>
>In a strange twist to this story, the JEWS released another Hamas
>leader from the prison in Israel, and then deported him to Jordan.At
>the same time, the media report that Israel provided the antidote to
>the poison used by the spies on Meshal in their murder attempt.
>
>
>On 5 Nov 1998 07:54:40 GMT, morbius@vcn.bc.ca (Michael Morbius) wrote:
>
>>IIRC Mossad didn't have our permission to use those passports.
>>
>>Anyway, don't they kill Nazis?  Isn't that a good thing?
>>
>>Mike



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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:42:26 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>Since in WWII, the JEW Zionists were allied to the Nazis, your comment
>is incorrect.
>
>
>2 spies for the JEW Mossad  terrorist organisation tried last Thursday
>to murder Hamas leader Khaled Meshal, in Jordan.
>
>According to news reports, the 2 criminals, using Canadian passports,
>used some form of injecting device when they tried to murder the
>popular Hamas chief.
>
>The Candian government is trying to distance itself from the criminalk
>activities of the Israeli Mossad, but it is presently unclear whether
>the Jew terrorists were in fact Canadians, or whether the canadian
>government is again issuing false passports, as it did for the 6 CIA
>agents in Tehran under Joe Clark!!!
>
>One MUST wonder, what is the active involvement of the Canadian
>Government in the worldwide terrorism of the JEWS???
>
>In a strange twist to this story, the JEWS released another Hamas
>leader from the prison in Israel, and then deported him to Jordan.At
>the same time, the media report that Israel provided the antidote to
>the poison used by the spies on Meshal in their murder attempt.
>
>
>On 5 Nov 1998 07:54:40 GMT, morbius@vcn.bc.ca (Michael Morbius) wrote:
>
>>IIRC Mossad didn't have our permission to use those passports.
>>
>>Anyway, don't they kill Nazis?  Isn't that a good thing?
>>
>>Mike



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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:34:30 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
>> wrote:
>
>>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.
>
>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>
>
>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )wrote:
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>
>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>
>>>Nothing new here.
>
>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>> it is NOT!!!
>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>
>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>Canada!!!
>
>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>
>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>
>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
>Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>
>
>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>> 
>
>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>> answer??
>
>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>
>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>
>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>
>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>> who can be reached at:
>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>
>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>
>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>
>>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>
>>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>
>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>
>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>
>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>
>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>
>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the   letters?
>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>
>
>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>
>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith's butt.
>
>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>
>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>
>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>
>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars. 
>
>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>
>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>> >OyVey???
>
>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>
>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>
>
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>
>>>Check this out!
>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>letter just ask.
>
>
>> >Nizkor Funding
>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>
>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>
>>>  The League is working closely
>>>with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>incidents directly to the National Office."
>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>
>
>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>
>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>
>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>
>
>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>
>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>
>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>
>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>
>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
>>>word _subscribe_ as the subject of your message.
>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>
>
>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>Canada!!!
>
>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>
>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>
>
>
>>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>>The Nizkor Project 
>>c/o 
>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>15 Hove Street 
>>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>
>
>>Attention:CHARITIES
>>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>
>



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On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:49:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Apr 1998 14:45:55 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>
>>Further to previous news reports, the Past President of CGA Alberta, William
>>L. Mearns, has been sentenced to 3 1/2 years in prison on his conviction for
>>embezzling from the County of Red Deer, Alberta.
>>
>>PAST PRESIDENT CGA - CRIMINAL TRIAL  - GETS  3  1/2  YEARS  IMPRISONMENT
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>WARNING  RE  CGA  CANADA
>>
>>OF  CONCERN  TO  ACCOUNTING   STUDENTS,  ACCOUNTANTS,  AND  THE  GENERAL  PUBLIC
>>
>>CGA'S   IN   CANADA  -  WHAT'S   WRONG   WITH   THEM?
>>
>>Over  the past year, national media have been filling the news with stories
>>of major scandals involving prominent CERTIFIED GENERAL ACCOUNTANTS (CGA'S)
>>in Canada.
>>
>>In Alberta, the media have had a field day for the past year, reporting on
>>the fact that  a PAST PRESIDENT of CGA Alberta, an FCGA and CGA, was under
>>investigation, and eventually charged with 14 serious criminal charges,
>>
>>The  complaints  were  filed by the Hongkong Bank to the RCMPCOMMERCIAL
>>CRIME DIVISION.
>>
>>The HK Bank was complaining about William Mearns,who had been for 12 years
>>the Controller/Treasurer of the County of Red Deer, Alberta.
>>
>>MEARNS WAS CHARGED WITH 14 SERIOUS CRIMINAL CHARGES,  as reported
>>by CFRN-TV, the Edmonton Sun, and Red Deer Advocate. Among the charges are 5
>>charges of uttering forged documents, another 5 charges of making a false
>>document, 2 more charges of forgery, one more charge of fraud, and one of
>>theft over $5,000.00.
>>  
>>MORE THAN ONE MILLION DOLLARS is reported to be missing.
>>
>>At  his next Court appearance on 4th October 1996,  the third adjournment
>>requested by Mearns, he was convicted, and sentenced to  3  1/2  years  in  prison.
>>
>>At the end of 1995, without any advice to the general public or EVEN TO
>>MEMBERS OF CGA ALBERTA, MEARNS WAS ALLOWED  TO SECRETLY  RESIGN BOTH HIS CGA
>>AND FCGA  designations. This seems to be a first for Canada, where an FCGA
>>surrenders what was supposed to be a prestigious designation.  In the past
>>year Mearns and one of his businesses have both gone bankrupt.
>>
>>Mind you, Mearns got his FCGA in connection with his work in 1987-1988,
>>where he was involved with THE ADMISSSION TO CGA ALBERTA OF UNQUALIFIED
>>BOOKKEEPERS, WHO WERE GIVEN THE CGA DESIGNATION, WITHOUT ANY REQUIREMENT FOR
>>EDUCATION,QUALIFICATIONS, EXPERIENCE, NO EXAMS or even a requirement for
>>upgrading courses to bring them up to an acceptable standard.  CGA Alberta
>>of course benefitted financially, from the huge increase in dues and fees
>>from these new members.
>>
>>The Vancouver Sun and other national media recently carried banner headlines
>>regarding ROMAN EVANCIC, another FCGA, who had got himself SHOT!!!  This was
>>apparently in connection with some business partner and a collections
>>problem. The news reported that the assailant said, as he shot Evancic:" I'm
>>from your stock brokers. I  understand you ripped him off." (Vancouver Sun -
>>11 January 1996).
>>
>>And don't forget the scandal exposed on national TV of the Surrey, BC  CGA
>>convicted of embezzling millions of dollars from fellow parishioners of his  church.
>>
>>Are these published reports, as well as others, part of the reason that the
>>Maritime Provinces have successfully maintained that CGA's in those
>>provinces ARE  NOT  QUALIFIED to perform public audits? Could it have
>>something to do with the fact that an unqualified CGA from Alberta could
>>move to the Maritimes, and even though unqualified, could still call himself  a CGA there?
>>
>>As a result of all the bad publicity regarding  problem CGA's in Canada, CGA
>>Canada is  now desperately trying to recruit new members from the ignorant
>>in  CHINA  and the Caribbean,
>>                           
>>
>>
>>Students of accounting in CHINA and  the Caribbean,  who must pay many
>>                                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>tens of thousands of dollars to obtain your designation, how do you feel
>>about these "gwaliau" who got the CGA for FREE?
>>
>>Those of you concerned about credibility in the accounting profession are
>>invited to respond.
>>
>>



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On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:54:23 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 05:38:17 GMT, nails@pacific.net.SPAMMERSDIE.sg
>(Ken!!!) wrote:
>>there are idiot jews and there are idiot anti-jews...
>>
>>what is scary is the number if idiots willing to listen to these 2
>>factions of idiots and promote violence...
>
>
>>On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:11:56 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>>Those who wish to support the Christkillers, the cursed JEWS, also
>>>wish to rewrite history.
>
>>>They do not want the present survivors around the world to remember
>>>that 100 million have been killed in the last 80 years by the JEW-led
>>>communists!! This is well documented in the recently released book in
>>>France.
>
>Quite apart from the more than 30 million people massacred by the
>JEW-led soviets in the 1930's in the Ukraine.


>From someone@somewhere.com Thu Nov 13 07:29:56 1997

Subject: OyVay Admits JEW COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!


The key reason OyVay and NAZIKOR/NIZKOR refuse to discuss the 66
Questions about the HOLOHOAX, is because they must hide the truth
about the more than 100 MILLIONS the JEW-led communists have murdered,
in less than 80 years!!!!


On 12 Nov 1997 01:51:13 GMT, rwhita8200@aol.com (RWhita8200) wrote:

>>Subject: COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>>From: alangrist@aol.com (ALAN GRIST)
>>Date: Mon, Nov 10, 1997 18:15 EST

>>French writers row over "communism killed l00m" claim
>>            FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN PARIS

>>A BOOK by a team of French historians,  described  as  the
>>first global accounting of the victims of communism, has
>>estimated that in this century Communist dictators, regimes
>>and  movements  have been responsible for the deaths of
>>up to 100 million people.

>> The 850-page Black Book of Communism - Crimes, Terror  
>>and  Repression,  by  11 senior French researchers and
>>published  to  coincide  with yesterday's 80th anniversary
>>of the Bolshevik Revolution, has triggered a fresh ideologi-
>>cal battle.

>>The writers have come up with  a  final  estimate  that
>>communism claimed about 65 million  lives  in  China,  20
>>million in the Soviet Union, two million in Cambodia, two
>>million in North Korea,  1.7 Million in Africa, one million
>>in  Vietnam,  one million in Eastern Europe and 150,000 in
>>South America. 

>>In a polemical introduction, Stephane Courtois, the chief
>>editor and co-ordinator of the project,  argued  that  mass 
>>murder and terror have been central characteristics of com-
>>munism. "The facts are stubborn," he writes. "They show that 
>>the Communist regimes committed crimes against   about  100  million
>>people, compared to about 25 million for the Nazis."   
>> Some of M Courtois's fellow authors  however, have taken
>>issue  both  with his  highly charged conclusions and with

>   But there's no MONEY in these victims of Communism, so who cares?
>
>Bob Whitaker


And do not ever FORGET, that the communists were mainly damn JEWS!!!!





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On Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:36:12 -0500, Anonymous
 wrote:

>Proposed Holocaust Wing Sparks Furor
>
>OTTAWA, Ont. (CP)--A controversial plan to construct a Holocaust 
>wing in the Canadian Cricket Hall of Fame (CCHF) has erupted into 
>a heated debate which has pitted veteran cricket players against 
>Jewish organizations and opened a dark chapter in Canada's past.
>
>The controversy began last February with CCHF historian Fred 
>Gaffenstein's proposal for a Holocaust memorial to focus 
>attention on "widespread anti-Semitism in Canada," which "had the 
>worst record of any Western country when it came to accepting 
>Jews, and one of the most forgiving when it came to accepting 
>Nazi war criminals. The Holocaust wing will serve as a permanent 
>reminder of our guilt, especially for young cricket fans."
>
>Veteran cricketers reacted angrily to Gaffenstein's proposal, 
>which has been championed by Jewish organizations and enjoys the 
>support of most local politicians.
>
>The Canadian Cricket Hall of Fame is located in a third-story 
>apartment above an Ottawa laundromat. Veterans claim the proposed 
>Holocaust wing would displace the small number of exhibits the 
>museum currently displays and divert attention from the often 
>neglected accomplishments of Canadian cricket players.
>
>Archibald Robertson, octogenarian president of the Canadian 
>Cricket Association, was surprised at the flurry of accusations 
>directed against his group, which has spearheaded the campaign 
>against the Gaffenstein plan amid charges of racism and Holocaust 
>denial.
>
>"Some of my best friends are Jews, so I'm no anti-Semite," 
>Robertson said. "But for the life of me I don't see why we need a 
>Holocaust memorial in a small cricket museum."
>
>The Gaffenstein plan would relocate four of the museum's five 
>exhibits to a garage behind the laundromat and would replace them 
>with Holocaust memorabilia and a multimedia exhibit on the 
>history of anti-Semitism. Robertson and other veterans fear the 
>the CCHF will be unable to fulfil its original purpose as a 
>result of the proposed reorganization.
>
>Prof. Irving Abella, past president of the Canadian Jewish 
>Congress (CJC) and author of a number of influential studies on 
>anti-Semitism in Canadian sports, expressed dismay at the 
>veterans' opposition to the Holocaust wing.
> 
>"Frankly, as a historian I am shocked at their insensitivity," 
>Abella said in an address yesterday before a packed and often 
>raucous meeting of the Shoah Advocacy League. "In the 1940s 
>Canadians were playing cricket while Jews were being gassed and 
>turned into soap. And not a single cricket player spoke out. It 
>is a shameful legacy."
> 
>CJC Community Relations director Bernie Farber was more blunt in 
>his dismissal of the ageing veterans' protests. "Pretty soon 
>all these old white guys will be dead. If we don't get our 
>Holocaust wing this time, we'll have it soon enough."
>
>"You can never have too many Holocaust museums," Farber added. "I 
>look forward to the day when there are memorials to the Shoah in 
>gas stations and amusement parks."



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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>Tavish II) wrote:
>
>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>Communists and who they were!
>>
>>Look:
>>
>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>
>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>
>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>Results and Prospects.
>>
>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>Committee.
>>
>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>revolution......
>>
>>Above found at:
>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>
>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>
>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>
>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>up and kill Jews."
>>
>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>
>>>said!>
>>
>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>
>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>
>>Try also:
>>
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>
>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>Try:
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>
>>which states:
>>
>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>
>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>
>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>>Consider this:
>>
>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>824-827).
>>
>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>
>>Here is the link:
>>
>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>You will run across this:
>>
>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>
>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>this exhibit:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>
>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>
>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>
>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>
>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>
>>Footnote:
>>
>>The BUND:
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>III, pp 824-827).
>>
>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>
>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>
>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>                I will find all credible sites
>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>                Till the next installment!



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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com



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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>Tavish II) wrote:
>
>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>Communists and who they were!
>>
>>Look:
>>
>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>
>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>
>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>Results and Prospects.
>>
>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>Committee.
>>
>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>revolution......
>>
>>Above found at:
>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>
>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>
>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>
>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>up and kill Jews."
>>
>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>
>>>said!>
>>
>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>
>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>
>>Try also:
>>
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>
>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>Try:
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>
>>which states:
>>
>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>
>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>
>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>>Consider this:
>>
>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>824-827).
>>
>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>
>>Here is the link:
>>
>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>You will run across this:
>>
>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>
>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>this exhibit:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>
>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>
>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>
>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>
>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>
>>Footnote:
>>
>>The BUND:
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>III, pp 824-827).
>>
>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>
>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>
>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>                I will find all credible sites
>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>                Till the next installment!



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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com



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On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:19:23 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:06:54 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> 
>>> dddddddddddddd
>>> 
>>> Grigori, if you do not know or do not believe me, please read the
>>> monograph about Lazar Kaganowich by his American cousin titled The Wolf
>>> of the Kremlin.  Stven eventually was given permission by Brezhnev to
>>> visit his uncle in Moscow.  Look in Stevens book at the photo of his
>>> aunt Rosa and unkle Mikhail Kaganovich who was shot with the blessing of
>>> Lazar and Rosa for treason which was sympathy for Israel.
>>> 
>>> Mikhail learned zionsim on his trip in USA during WW II and he was
>>> commissar of Soviet aviation.
>>> 
>>> Pawlikowski deserves from you apology, but I doubut he will get it.
>>> 
>>> Some Jews are simply michigene
>>> ---------
>>> RAgan
>>> 
>>> Grigori Khaskin wrote:
>>> >
>>> > PAWLIKOWSKI (polhistsoc@earthlink.net) wrote:
>>> >
>>> > : Klan of Kaganoviches, Soviet Jews who ran USSR at that time (Rosa
>>> > : Kaganowich, M.D. being at that time Stalins wife) felt scorned by
>>> > : Israel.  Hell know no furry as the woman scorned!
>>> >
>>> > What interesting here, that all it is lie, but the name of Lazar
>>> > Kaganovich.
>>> >
>>> > #1. Kaganovich had no "clan", especially one who was running USSR.
>>> >
>>> > Better you, patologycal judofob, invent something new, remotely close to
>>> > reality, like "Georgian Djugashvili when studied in christian seminary was
>>> > forcefullyu converted to Judaizm and than under name Stalin
>>> > successfully tried to kill all polish christians worldwide".
>>> >
>>> > #2. STalin never had a wife with the name "Rosa", not talking about Rosa
>>> > Kaganovich, M.D. because:
>>> >
>>> > #3. Lazar Kaganovich NEVER have a sister Rosa Kaganovich.
>>> >
>>> > That lies you are repeating was put in circulation with Russian
>>> > antisemitic blacj hundred organization "Pamiat" in the end of 80th and
>>> > was exposed countless times as an open lie in Russian periodicals.
>>> >
>>> > #4. Affiliation of patologycal commie Kaganovich and Israel came from the
>>> > same garbage dumpster.
>>> >
>>> > #5. Stalin with the help of his henchmen Beria at the time was preparing
>>> > the wholesale deportation Jews to death camps in Siberia, and started to
>>> > unfold so-called "Case of Jewish doctors", implicating all Jewish M.D. who
>>> > worked in Kremlin hospital killing of communist party leaders admitted to
>>> > hospital. It had to become a spark to deportation. Thanx G-d the bastard
>>> > died himself on Purim night and deportation was aborted.
>>> >
>>> > Does it look, like that scenario was running by a jews? Dear
>>> > Padlikowsky? Maybe unexisted M.D. Kaganovich tried to get rid of worldwide
>>> > known M.D. in Moscow?
>>> >
>>> > You are laughable, moron.
>>> >
>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>> >
>>> > G.K.
>>> >
>>> > : USSR hoped to control Arab oilpipes then going  through Israel.
>>> >
>>> > Pipelines THROUGH Israel? Pumping oil there in 1940th? Time to call Mr.
>>> > Padlikowsky a veterinarian, and teacher in geography.
>>> >
>>> > : USSR staged Kielce and other pogroms to stock Palestine with Soviet
>>> > : Jews  but these indoctrinated Jews did not bother with USSR once in
>>> > : Israel.
>>> >
>>> > No, no. Glory of Kielce is a badge of honor on your antisemitic mighty
>>> > chest.
>>> >
>>> > But what pogrom in Kielce has in common with stocking of Palestine with
>>> > SOVIET jews? Especially when all info about Kielce was immediately
>>> > SUPPRESSED for ten's of years?
>>> >
>>> > Why it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get from Russia to Israel all that years??
>>> > And it was a multitude of jews who was refused an exit visas and instead
>>> > of Near East were sent to Far North?
>>> >
>>> > : Elementary HErmie HH
>>> > : ---------
>>> > : Pawlikowski
>>> >
>>> > Unfortunately, that tipe of lies almost never elementary. despite such a
>>> > lies have been produced by thou who have one convolution in the brain, and
>>> > even this one was straiten by Waffen SS side-cap. Unfortunately a rebuke
>>> > required and time had been waisted for such an imbecile.
>>> >
>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>> >
>>> > G.K.
>>
>>
>>It seems that the Russian JEWs, and their lackeys have already forgotten
>>who established the Soviet secret Police, forerunners of the dreaded KGB
>>- it was that great JEW Felix DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>
>>It was the secret police that engaged in genocide - first on the
>>Russians, then the more than 30 million Ukrainians murdered by the JEW
>>Kommissars!!!
>>
>>How many tens of millions bodies does it take to REMEMBER - that it was
>>the SOVIET JEWS who first engaged in genocide?



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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:39:08 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:53:01 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 18:01:02 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:45:55 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:54:25 GMT, vincent@dreamon.com wrote:
>>
>>>[From The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 1992 issue]
>>>
>>> "The Secret Files: How AIPAC Can Slander You By Stealth -- An
>>>Insider's Expose"
>>>
>>>-or-
>>>
>>>"The Secret Section in Israel's U.S. Lobby That Stifles American
>>>Debate"
>>>
>>> by Gregory D. Slabodkin
>>>
>>> 
>>>During the reign of terror that Senator Joseph McCarthy unleashed in
>>>the 1950s, when the reputations and lives of many loyal Americans were
>>>ruined by false charges of "communism" and "treason," American Jewry
>>>was overwhelmingly opposed to the Wisconsin senator and his blackmail
>>>by blacklists. According to the Gallup polls of the time, the
>>>percentage of U.S. Jews who opposed McCarthy's smear tactics was twice
>>>that of the rest of the population. Many Jewish organizations passed
>>>resolutions condemning McCarthy's ruthless character assassination.
>>>
>>>Today, however, such national Jewish organizations as the
>>>Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) and the American Israel
>>>Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) are using the same tactics to stifle
>>>open debate of U.S. policy in the Middle East.
>>>
>>>
>>>Secretly Circulated Lists
>>>
>>>
>>> To Conduct this "neo-McCarthyism," AIPAC operates a covert section
>>>within its research department that monitors and keeps files on
>>>politicians, journalists, academics, Arab-American activists, Jewish
>>>liberals, and others it labels "anti-Israel."  AIPAC selects
>>>information from these files and secretly circulates lists of the
>>>"guilty," together with their alleged political misdeeds, buttressed
>>>by their statements, often totally out of context.
>>>
>>>Just as McCarthy's permanent investigations subcommittee labeled
>>>criticism of specific policies of the U.S. government as "anti-
>>>American" or "pro-Soviet," AIPAC labels criticism of Israeli
>>>government policies "anti-Israel," "pro-Arab" or "pro-PLO."  Still
>>>worse is the pro-Israel lobby's redefinition of "anti-Semitism" to
>>>include any such criticism of Israel or its actions.
>>>
>>> To date, revelations about AIPAC's blacklisting and smear tactics
>>>have barely scratched the surface of the pro-Israel lobby's secret
>>>activities. Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his 1985 best-selling
>>>book _They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront
>>>Israel's Lobby_, documented what he could see of that lobby's impact
>>>on U.S. politics, defense, foreign and economic policies, as well as
>>>academia and the media. However, as an insider who worked within
>>>AIPAC's stealth section, I can confirm what Findley could only
>>>surmise. That an organized blacklisting operation exists is a tragic
>>>fact that no longer should be ignored.
>>>
>>> AIPAC's "opposition research" department traces its roots to I.L.
>>>(Sy) Kenen, who founded AIPAC in 1954. As editor of AIPAC's weekly
>>>_Near East Report_, he often attacked critics of Israel in his aptly
>>>titled column, "The Monitor."  Besides monitoring, analyzing, and
>>>responding to "anti-Israel" comment and activities in the United
>>>States, Kenen also kept files on AIPAC's "enemies."  In his final year
>>>AIPAC began to expand its intelligence-gathering operations.
>>>
>>> Kenen's memoirs, _Israel's Defense Line: Her Friends and Foes in 
>>>Washington_, record how AIPAC pooled resources in 1974 with the
>>>American Jewish Committee and other national Jewish organizations to
>>>create a "truth squad."  Its purpose was to combat "pro-Arab
>>>propaganda" and the emerging "Arab lobby," which Kenen believed to be
>>>a growing threat to the U.S.-Israel relationship.
>>>
>>> "While vigorously defending Israel's perceived interests, the
>>>organizations that created the truth squad turned into a kind of
>>>Jewish thought police," journalist Robert I. Friedman explains.
>>>"Investigators -- sometimes overzealous Jewish college students,
>>>sometimes sources with access to U.S. intelligence agencies -- were
>>>used to ferret out critics of Israel, Jew or gentile, wherever they
>>>might be. At ADL and AIPAC, files were opened on journalists,
>>>politicians, scholars and community activists. Their speeches and
>>>writings were monitored, as were, in some cases, their other
>>>professional activities. And they were often smeared with charges of
>>>anti-Semitism or with the pernicious label of self-hating Jew. The
>>>intention was to stifle debate on the Middle East within the Jewish
>>>community, the media and academia, for fear that criticism of any kind
>>>would weaken the Jewish state."
>>>
>>> When Kenen stepped down as executive director of AIPAC in December
>>>1974, the task of monitoring Israel's "enemies" was left to the
>>>department of research and information at AIPAC, where it has remained
>>>ever since.
>>>
>>>
>>> Monitoring Israel's "Enemies"
>>>
>>>
>>>Morris Amitay, Kenen's successor as AIPAC executive director, did not 
>>>follow Kenen's practice of countering "pro-Arab propaganda" with
>>>polished editorials in the _Near East Report_.  Amitay was more
>>>concerned with developing AIPAC into a first-rate lobbying
>>>organization, as demonstrated by the fact that AIPAC grew dramatically
>>>during his six-year reign. These also were key years in the growth of
>>>intelligence gathering.
>>>
>>>Some of the growth resulted from the challenge presented by a small, 
>>>dovish, Jewish organization of the late 1970s known as Breira.
>>>"Breira," the Hebrew word for "alternative," was organized by a tiny
>>>group of American Jewish rabbis, professors and other activists from
>>>the civil rights and anti-war movement of the 1960s.
>>>
>>>Recognizing that the U.S. Jewish community was not monolithic on the
>>>subject of Israel, Breira encouraged American Jews to question
>>>Israel's policies in the occupied territories after the 1967 Six-Day
>>>War and to engage in an open and frank debate on U.S. foreign policy
>>>in the Middle East. Many Breira positions reflected those of the Peace
>>>Now movement in Israel.
>>>
>>>However, American Jewish organizations would not tolerate in the U.S. 
>>>the dissent that characterized political debate in Israel. Instead
>>>AIPAC and other Jewish organizations set out to silence Breira by
>>>discrediting its members. Although these Jewish peaceniks were
>>>motivated by love and concern for Israel, they were smeared as "anti-
>>>Israel," "pro-PLO," and "self-hating Jews."
>>>
>>>Kenen, still serving as acting editor of AIPAC's _Near East Report_, 
>>>charged that Breira "undermined U.S. support for Israel."  Only one
>>>prominent Jewish leader defended Breira. He was Rabbi Alexander
>>>Schindler, president of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations,
>>>who called the attack on Breira a "witch hunt."  He was ignored,
>>>however, and the swift and successful campaign to snuff out Breira set
>>>the "rules" for dissent in the American Jewish community, as well as
>>>who would be the "enforcer" of these "rules."
>>>
>>>As Edward Tivnan observed in his book, _The Lobby: Jewish Political 
>>>Power and American Foreign Policy_: "By attacking Breira, Jewish
>>>leaders had turned over much of their power to AIPAC, Israel's most
>>>loyal agent in the U.S. and a proved enemy of dissent from Israeli
>>>policies, among Jews as well as gentiles."
>>>
>>>In the late 1970s and early 1980s, AIPAC published an annual "Who's
>>>Who" of "anti-Israel organizations and personalities, providing
>>>important background information for AIPAC members who must deal with
>>>them in the political arena."  AIPAC photocopied these "enemies lists"
>>>to meet increasing requests by its members for materials on
>>>"anti-Israel" forces.
>>>
>>>
>>>AIPAC's "War for Washington"
>>>
>>>
>>>Thomas Dine, a former legislative assistant to Senator Ted Kennedy,
>>>who replaced Amitay in 1980 as AIPAC executive director, expanded
>>>AIPAC's opposition research. This was part of Dine's "War for
>>>Washington," inspired by what he portrayed as the dramatic growth of
>>>"anti-Israel" organizations in the nation's capital. AIPAC was
>>>particularly worried about the Arab-American community, just beginning
>>>to organize.
>>>
>>>In August 1982, AIPAC hired Amy Goott as its first full-time employee
>>>to monitor Israel's "enemies."  Goott was recruited from the
>>>Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, where she had similar duties.
>>>In a speech at the 1983 AIPAC Policy Conference, Goott called on AIPAC
>>>members to send useful information to her in Washington.
>>>
>>>In June 1983, AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_, 
>>>coauthored by Goott. As Dine explained in the handbook's preface, its
>>>purpose was to update the activities of "anti-Israel" organizations
>>>and individuals, and to provide a "more complete and convenient
>>>analysis of this activity" to "meet the needs of AIPAC members."  Yet,
>>>despite its glossy cover and carefully worded and seemingly objective
>>>descriptions, _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_ was nothing more than
>>>a blacklist. By lumping them together, it sought to categorize critics
>>>of all kinds as "enemies" of Israel. The final chapter, "A Directory
>>>of the Actors," profiled 21 organizations and 38 individuals to be
>>>monitored and discredited whenever possible.
>>>
>>>At about the same time that AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit
>>>
>>>Israel_, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith published its own 
>>>document entitled _Pro-Arab Propaganda in America: Vehicles and
>>>Voices_. Overlaps in the texts and the timing reflect Ms. Goott's
>>>employment by both organizations during the period both publications
>>>were in preparation.
>>>
>>>"The primary accusation leveled against the groups and individuals 
>>>listed in the B'nai B'rith and AIPAC books is that they are
>>>'pro-Palestinian' or 'pro-PLO,'" Cheryl Rubenberg writes in her book,
>>>_Israel and the American National Interest_.  "Pro-Israeli groups have
>>>succeeded in associating the words 'Palestinian' and 'PLO' with
>>>terrorism in the minds of Americans; then with techniques reminiscent
>>>of the McCarthy era, they smear their opposition with the label
>>>'pro-PLO.'"
>>>
>>>The smear campaign did not go totally unchallenged within the U.S. 
>>>Jewish community. In December 1983, _New York Times_ columnist Anthony
>>>Lewis criticized AIPAC's tactics, particularly the inclusion in its
>>>"enemies list" of Walid Khalidi, a Palestinian intellectual living in
>>>Boston, as does Lewis.
>>>
>>>Khalidi supports a two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. In
>>>
>>>its handbook, however, AIPAC quoted selectively from one of his
>>>articles to depict him as an extremist calling for the destruction of
>>>Israel.
>>>
>>>"Joe McCarthy could not have produced a nastier distortion" of
>>>Khalidi's views, Lewis wrote. He suggested that Israel's lobby should
>>>welcome Palestinian moderation instead of trying to "smear" it.
>>> 
>>>In November 1984, the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), the 
>>>largest organization of Middle East educators in the United States,
>>>unanimously condemned AIPAC and ADL blacklisting. MESA called on both 
>>>national Jewish organizations to "disavow and refrain from such
>>>activities" as soliciting "unbalanced information on students, faculty
>>>and other parties at American campuses" and "listing factually
>>>inaccurate and unsubstantiated assertions that defame specific
>>>students, teachers and researchers as 'pro-Arab propagandists,' who
>>>'use their anti-Zionism as merely a guise for their deeply felt
>>>anti-Semitism.'"
>>>
>>>When it released the first edition of _The Campaign to Discredit
>>>Israel_ in 1983, AIPAC had announced plans to publish updated versions
>>>annually. 
>>>
>>>However, due to the negative publicity it engendered, the first
>>>edition was also the last. Instead, AIPAC continued its monitoring of
>>>"anti-Israel" activities, but disseminated the results secretly.
>>>
>>>
>>> Going Underground
>>> 
>>>
>>>AIPAC's decision to take its opposition research underground coincided
>>>
>>>with the hiring in the mid-1980s of Michael Lewis and Anna Gottlieb.
>>>Gottlieb joined AIPAC after a stint at the Justice Department's Office
>>>of Special Investigations (OSI). Lewis came to AIPAC from the
>>>Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank closely
>>>associated with the pro-Israel lobby.  
>>>
>>>He is the son of Princeton University "orientalist" Bernard Lewis,
>>>whose writings have been criticized in the Middle East for denigrating
>>>Islam as a religion and Arabs as a people.
>>>
>>>Michael Lewis, the present head of AIPAC's stealth section,
>>>innocuously named Policy Analysis, describes it as a "clearing-house"
>>>for information on anti-Israel organizations and activists to provide
>>>a "resource, and fulfill a need, unreplicated anywhere else."  He has
>>>provided negative information both to rival politicians and to
>>>journalists about prominent individuals whom 
>>>
>>>
>>>AIPAC considers to be "anti-Israel."
>>>
>>>
>>>In one case Lewis provided information that became the basis of a
>>>racist brochure mailed to voters in California's 44th congressional
>>>district by candidate Randy "Duke" Cunningham's campaign in the spring
>>>of 1990. The brochure accused former U.S. Ambassador to Qatar Joseph
>>>Ghougassian, Cunningham's Republican primary election opponent, of
>>>being "bank-rolled by Arab oil interests."  The brochure, featuring a
>>>photo of Ghougassian with a drawing of Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi,
>>>asked: "We don't need a congressman bought and paid for by these
>>>special interests.  Do we?"
>>>
>>>What made this brochure particularly offensive was the fact that 
>>>Cunningham's campaign listed contributors to Ghougassian with Arabic
>>>sounding last names, all of whom were in fact U.S. citizens, and
>>>included the National Association of Arab Americans (NAAA).
>>>Ghougassian, an Egyptian-born Armenian and naturalized U.S. citizen,
>>>lost the primary race against Cunningham who, with AIPAC's support,
>>>went on to win a seat in the 102nd Congress.
>>>
>>>Lewis reports that AIPAC also "provided Steve Emerson with information
>>>
>>>on Alexander Cockburn."  That followed a heated exchange between 
>>>Israel-apologist Emerson and frequent critic of Israel Cockburn on the
>>>
>>>editorial page of _The Wall Street Journal_ in May 1990. Emerson
>>>attacked Cockburn for his "financial agenda."
>>>
>>>"It ought to be remembered," Emerson wrote, "that several years ago
>>>Mr. Cockburn secretly took $10,000 from an organization that had been
>>>funded primarily by the governments of Iraq and Libya and by a bank
>>>known as the PLO's bank."
>>>
>>>Emerson's charge was based on a story which had appeared in a weekly 
>>>alternative newspaper, _The Boston Phoenix_, on Jan. 10, 1984.  _The
>>>Phoenix_ reported that Cockburn received in 1982 a $10,000 grant from
>>>the now defunct Institute of Arab Studies to write a book on the
>>>Israeli invasion of Lebanon and, because Cockburn did not inform them,
>>>editors of the _Village Voice_ "indefinitely suspended" him due to
>>>"appearance of conflict [of interest] and nondisclosure."
>>>
>>>Not surprisingly, AIPAC was the source of the original _Phoenix_ story
>>>
>>>as well as Emerson's attack based on it in _The Wall Street Journal_.
>>>Alan Lupo, _The Boston Phoenix_ reporter who broke the story back in
>>>1984, said AIPAC had told him the Institute for Arab Studies was
>>>"linked to a $100 million campaign to sway U.S. policy against
>>>Israel."  In fact, the Institute had U.S. tax-exempt status and listed
>>>individual contributors within the United States until it closed down
>>>in 1983 due to a lack of funds.
>>>
>>>Deploring the AIPAC-generated "misinformation," editor David 
>>>Schneiderman of the _Village Voice_ wrote on Jan. 24, 1984: "What
>>>Cockburn did not do was take money from an 'Arab propaganda group.'
>>>Moreover he was not 'bought'--he clearly received the grant because of
>>>views he already firmly held. The _Phoenix_ offered no evidence that
>>>the Institute [of Arab Studies] is anything more than what it purports
>>>to be. And despite the reporter's clumsy attempt to say so, Arab does
>>>not always equal Palestinian which does not always equal terrorist.
>>>His unquestioned adoption of claims by the Anti-Defamation League and
>>>the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, hardly disinterested
>>>parties, is poor journalism."
>>>
>>>Even _The Wall Street Journal_, a newspaper with a demonstrated 
>>>pro-Israel editorial bias, questioned the AIPAC-originated charges. In
>>>a Jan. 13, 1984 editorial, _WSJ_ editor Robert Bartley wrote: "Among
>>>all the things I can imagine Alex doing, this one seems fairly
>>>innocuous... On all this we have no opinion, except that even Arabs
>>>should enjoy freedom of speech."
>>>
>>> _The Wall Street Journal_ continued to run Cockburn's monthly column 
>>>opposite the editorial page. Said the _Journal_, tongue only partly in
>>>cheek, "We hired him because of his biases, which we're sure are
>>>totally incorruptible."
>>>
>>>In both of the cases cited, AIPAC attempted to discredit critics of 
>>>Israel not by refuting their arguments, but by trying to tie them to
>>>Arab money. Making an Arab connection can damage the victim's
>>>reputation, the pro-Israel lobby believes, so long as it can encourage
>>>a mindset in the United States that anything Arab-related is tainted.
>>>
>>>Ironically, it is precisely the same kind of racist stereotype to
>>>which the Jewish community is so sensitive, particularly the charge
>>>that Jews exert tremendous influence through the use of their money.
>>>Jewish organizations can and do talk about the power of "Arab money"
>>>and "petro-dollars," yet are quick to decry as anti-Semitic similar
>>>innuendo regarding Jewish financing.
>>>
>>>In another case, AIPAC executive director Dine asked Lewis to analyze 
>>>the positions of Brookings Institution Middle East specialist Judith
>>>Kipper. In an Aug. 17, 1990 memo, Lewis responded: "For the most part,
>>>Kipper is extremely skillful in her writings and statements to avoid
>>>being pinned down as 'anti-Israel.'  She often achieves her goals by
>>>presenting the views of 'moderate Israelis' to state her case."
>>>
>>>In _The New Republic_, and ardently pro-Israel magazine, writer David 
>>>Segal put a more positive spin on Kipper's views in its March 25, 1991
>>>issue: 
>>>
>>>"Her analysis throughout the Gulf crisis said little about the
>>>politics of the Middle East, but a great deal about the politics of
>>>Judith Kipper. It's not that she's anti-Israel -- her criticism would
>>>put her not far from the center of the Israeli Labor Party -- or that
>>>she is pro-Arab. Rather, her politics stem from an unwavering
>>>quasi-religious faith in the power of dialogue."
>>>
>>>There is no greater admission of guilt and wrongdoing than AIPAC's 
>>>strenuous attempts to conceal its blacklisting activities. Senior
>>>AIPAC officials fear that public outrage might follow disclosure of
>>>their covert activities. The name change from "Opposition Research" to
>>>"Policy Analysis" was designed to conceal AIPAC's surveillance,
>>>monitoring, and intelligence-gathering operations. In an Aug 7, 1990
>>>internal memorandum to Steve Rosen, AIPAC Foreign Policy Issues
>>>director, Lewis boasted: 
>>>
>>>"There is no question that we exert a policy impact, but working
>>>behind the scenes and taking care not to leave fingerprints, that
>>>impact is not always traceable to us."
>>>
>>>As part of its intelligence-gathering operation, Policy Analysis has 
>>>created a fictional person and a bogus company to infiltrate opposing 
>>>organizations by paying membership dues or making donations to them.
>>>This AIPAC creation is "Paul Hunt" of "Paul Hunt & Associates."  AIPAC
>>>rents a post office box on Capitol Hill for Mr. Hunt's mail, and has
>>>installed a separate Paul Hunt telephone line in the AIPAC office.
>>>"Paul Hunt" has even been listed as a donor to the _Washington Report
>>>on Middle East Affairs_. 
>>>
>>>Secret _Activities_
>>>
>>>Nowhere is secrecy more meticulously applied than to the production
>>>and distribution of _Activities_, the weekly AIPAC publication which
>>>disseminates information on individuals and organizations critical of
>>>Israel or Israeli policies. Although _Activities_ is the most visible
>>>product of its Policy Analysis section, AIPAC takes great pains to
>>>hide its connection with _Activities_, in order to avoid the
>>>controversy that arose over its blacklisting of "enemies" in its 1983
>>>publication of _The Campaign to 
>>>
>>>
>>>Discredit Israel_.
>>>
>>>
>>> _Activities_' select and tightly controlled recipients are encouraged
>>>to use the material as they see fit, "subject only to the provision
>>>that AIPAC not be attributed as its source."  _Activities_ is
>>>distributed to AIPAC's Washington and regional staff, its officers,
>>>the major Jewish organizational leaders, Jewish Federations and
>>>Community Relations Councils around the nation, pro-Israel activists
>>>and academics.
>>>
>>>It also goes to the Israeli Embassy in Washington and to other
>>>Israelis both in the U.S. and in Israel. AIPAC employees are not
>>>permitted to take _Activities_ out of the office and may not mention
>>>the existence of _Activities_ outside AIPAC's walls. A disquieting
>>>breach of security was revealed at the 1990 national convention of the
>>>American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) when that
>>>organization's president, Abdeen Jabara, referred casually to having
>>>received an AIPAC study entitled 
>>>
>>>
>>>_Activities_.
>>>
>>>
>>>Assessing the problem, Lewis wrote in an April 2, 1990 memorandum to 
>>>Dine: "_Activities_ is distributed to some 400+ people, so it will
>>>probably be impossible to trace the source of this leak. There is
>>>nothing in _Activities_ which points to who is its originator and it
>>>is sent out in plain envelopes, so the material obviously did not just
>>>accidentally get passed on to ADC. This is the first time that any of
>>>these groups have made any reference to their being in receipt of
>>>_Activities_."
>>>
>>>Information contained in _Activities_ has been used by the National 
>>>Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC), American Jewish 
>>>Congress (AJC), Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), Committee for
>>>Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), National Jewish
>>>Coalition (NJC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security
>>>Affairs (JINSA).
>>>
>>>According to Lewis: "Because _Activities_ is read by many of the major
>>>
>>>Jewish and pro-Israel organizational players, _Activities_ ensures
>>>that there is a cognizance of the activities of the anti-Israel forces
>>>both in Washington and the grassroots and the issues on which they are
>>>focusing.
>>>
>>>Ultimately, of all the information disseminated from AIPAC,
>>>_Activities_ may well be the most eagerly sought, read and used to
>>>good advantage."
>>>
>>>One of the ways that this information was "used to good advantage" was
>>>
>>>in a 1990 American Jewish Congress fund-raising letter. It accused
>>>Executive Director James Zogby of the Arab American Institute of "the
>>>new anti-Semitism" (criticism of Israeli policies) and compared him
>>>with white supremacist David Duke and black nationalist Rev. Louis
>>>Farrakhan because Zogby criticized pro-Israel political action
>>>committees. No sources were given in the letter for quotations
>>>attributed to Zogby.
>>>
>>>When Zogby protested, AJC Executive Director Henry Siegman, whose name
>>>
>>>appeared at the bottom of the letter, denied prior knowledge of the
>>>mailing and blamed overzealous fund-raisers for its wording.
>>>_Washington Post_ columnist Richard Cohen wrote in an Oct. 3, 1990,
>>>column, "There's no doubt in my mind that the American Jewish
>>>Congress' letter writers went off half-cocked -- and without Siegman's
>>>knowledge. "It might surprise Cohen to know that Siegman, not AJC's
>>>fund-raisers, is one of the select recipients of AIPAC's _Activities_,
>>>from which every one of the quotes attributed to Zogby had been taken.
>>>
>>>Nor, after publication of Cohen's article, was it some unnamed "letter
>>>
>>>writer" but Siegman, personally, who contacted AIPAC's Michael Lewis
>>>for help in trying to build a case that Zogby was indeed an
>>>"anti-Semite."  Lewis faxed an AIPAC "living memo" of Zogby's
>>>statements, actions and affiliations to Siegman in New York.
>>>
>>>"I hope this information is of help," Lewis wrote on the cover sheet. 
>>>
>>>"The compilation as such should not be sent to Richard Cohen, and the 
>>>information should not be attributed to AIPAC."
>>>
>>>Writing in the _Village Voice_ on Jan. 22, 1991, Nat Hentoff argued
>>>that the AJC letter had "resurrected the spirit of Joe McCarthy."
>>>Hentoff also quoted Zogby's reaction to his own personal ordeal with
>>>neo-McCarthyism: 
>>>
>>>"When the ADL and AIPAC falsely and maliciously labeled me a
>>>'terrorist member of the PLO' speaking engagements were canceled,
>>>political candidates refused to associate with me, and my family and I
>>>were harassed and threatened with violence. Now, I know that ADL and
>>>AIPAC were not involved in the harassment or the violence -- but
>>>vilification and scurrilous attacks of the sort they indulged in can
>>>create the atmosphere in which ugly actions can occur."
>>>
>>>Siegman never apologized to Zogby for the actions of his "overzealous 
>>>fund-raisers."
>>>
>>>
>>> Disingenuous Disclaiming
>>>
>>>
>>>AIPAC is careful never to advocate specific actions to be taken
>>>against individuals and organizations named in _Activities_. In fact,
>>>it puts on the front cover of every edition the disingenuous
>>>disclaimer that "the inclusion of material in _Activities_ implies
>>>neither endorsement nor criticism of any group."  By distributing
>>>derogatory allegations about critics of Israel, however, AIPAC in
>>>effect tells pro-Israel activists, "Here are the people who are your
>>>enemies -- now go out and do something about it!"
>>>
>>>AIPAC's Policy Analysis section works closely with its college liaison
>>>department, the Political Leadership Development Program (PLDP). When
>>>AIPAC is informed of an upcoming speech by an "anti-Israel"
>>>personality, summaries of that person's standard arguments,
>>>question-and-answer style, and a list of possibly damaging quotations
>>>are sent to pro-Israel activists at the host institution, who also are
>>>asked to send tapes or accounts of the speech back to AIPAC. AIPAC
>>>also draws up questions for "plants" in the audience, and suggests
>>>other strategies suited to the particular venue.
>>>
>>>Typical of this kind of preparation was a confidential memo sent in
>>>1985 to AIPAC opposition researcher Anna Gottlieb by AIPAC regional
>>>director Murray Wood in Los Angeles. For an October 20th "Conference
>>>on Peace With Justice in the Middle East" at Mira Costa College,
>>>arrangements were made to "monitor the conference...have a corps of
>>>'our' people in the audience, well-trained and briefed...call a
>>>meeting with the local ADL and American Jewish Committee directors to
>>>develop a coordinated strategy...(and provide) background material" on
>>>the speakers.
>>>
>>>Human rights activist Noam Chomsky, a linguistics professor at 
>>>Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described the ADL file compiled
>>>on him: "It's just like an FBI file -- 150 pages of material, clips
>>>from newspapers and inter-office memos saying I was going to show up
>>>at this or that place, surveillance of talks I have given,
>>>characterization of what was said in the talks [often falsified]. All
>>>this material goes into a central source. Then when I give a talk
>>>somewhere, my file will be given to the appropriate local group, who
>>>will be able to dig through it, and come up with statements that I
>>>allegedly made at some time during the last 15 years to be publicized
>>>in unsigned pamphlets."
>>>
>>>Under lock and key in the office of Michael Lewis are literally
>>>hundreds and hundreds of such files on people and organizations that
>>>AIPAC deems to be "anti-Israel."  Among politicians upon whom such
>>>files exist are former Bush administration White House Chief of Staff
>>>John Sununu, former Reagan administration secretaries of defense
>>>Caspar Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former President Jimmy Carter
>>>and former Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern, Senate
>>>Minority Leader Robert Dole, Republican Senate John Chafee, House
>>>Majority Whip David Bonior, and Democratic Representatives John
>>>Conyers, John Dingell, Mervyn Dymally, Mary Rose Oakar, Nick Joe
>>>Rahall, James Traficant and many others.
>>>
>>> The largest file that AIPAC keeps on any single person is that of 
>>>District of Columbia "Shadow Senator" Jesse Jackson. While AIPAC's 
>>>surveillance and monitoring is mostly confined to an individual's 
>>>professional statements and activities, in Jackson's case, AIPAC was
>>>caught venturing into personal innuendo. As revealed by CBS' "60
>>>Minutes," an internal AIPAC memorandum dated Nov. 3, 1987 proposed
>>>generating media interest in allegations that Jackson had extramarital
>>>affairs.
>>>
>>>AIPAC also maintains files on what it characterizes as "anti-Israel" 
>>>journalists to stifle open media discussion on the Middle East. AIPAC 
>>>maintains files on Peter Jennings, Mike Wallace, Patrick Buchanan,
>>>Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, Thomas Friedman, Anthony Lewis,
>>>Richard Cohen, Carl Rowan, Alexander Cockburn and Joseph Sobran, among
>>>others.
>>>
>>>Reminiscent of Senator Joe McCarthy's scouring of Hollywood for 
>>>"communists," and their "fellow travelers" in the entertainment
>>>industry, AIPAC also has opened files on Ed Asner, Woody Allen,
>>>Richard Dreyfus, Vanessa Redgrave, Casey Kasem, Mike Farrell, Barbra
>>>Streisand, Michael Moore, Peter Yarrow, and many more.
>>>
>>> 
>>>"Have You No Shame?"
>>>
>>>
>>> In the spring of 1954, a nationwide audience watching the televised
>>>Army-McCarthy hearings sat transfixed as Boston attorney Joseph Welch
>>>stood to demand of Senator McCarthy, "Sir, have you no shame?"  Only
>>>after that dramatic confrontation, pictured over and over as
>>>intimidated journalists and politicians finally dared to speak out,
>>>did the shadow of "McCarthyism" slowly recede from American public
>>>life.
>>> 
>>>Today, some Jewish organizations finally are asking that same question
>>>of the Israel lobby. Two years ago, several local Jewish community
>>>relations organizations issued a statement condemning an attack by the
>>>hard-line Americans For A Safe Israel (AFSI) against the New Israel
>>>Fund (NIF).
>>> 
>>>This local initiative inspired a resolution adopted nationally by the
>>>National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC)
>>>condemning the "McCarthy-like" tactics used by some Jewish
>>>organizations. The resolution proposed guidelines for dealing with
>>>"the right of dissent" on Israeli policies, and emphasized the
>>>importance of open and thoughtful exchange in an atmosphere of "mutual
>>>tolerance and civility."  However, while NJCRAC denounced such fringe
>>>groups as AFSI, it failed to address the problem of neo-McCarthyism
>>>within more mainstream Jewish organizations.
>>>
>>>AIPAC and ADL must be held accountable by the organized American
>>>Jewish community for their blacklisting and smear tactics and for the
>>>climate of hatred and repression they have created. Let American
>>>Jewish organizations demand that AIPAC stop circulation of its
>>>blacklists and destroy the files it keeps on the "enemies of Israel."
>>>
>>>Only if Americans refuse to be silenced by false charges of hatred and
>>>racism can there be free and open debate on U.S. policy in the Middle
>>>East.  
>>>
>>>And only through such debate will the U.S. be able to contribute
>>>toward a lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict.
>>>
>>>[Gregory D. Slabodkin, a free-lance writer in Washington, DC, was an
>>>opposition researcher for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee
>>>(AIPAC) in 1990 and 1991.]
>>>
>>>Call the American Educational Trust TOLL-FREE at 1-800-368-5788 or
>>>write: American Educational Trust P.O. Box 53062 Washington, DC 20009
>>>
>>> NOTE: They may still be giving out free sample copies of _The
>>>Washington Report on Middle East Affairs_.  Ask for one!   * END
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.natall.com
>>>http://www.natvan.com
>>>
>>>To Subscribe to American Dissident Voices weekly transcripts 
>>>(the printed version of our weekly radio program), 
>>>mail: ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the word 
>>>subscribe as the subject of your message. 



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:56:26 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:04:59 -0500, "Shabati..Zvi Äbuishneineh"
> wrote:
>
>>SJAFAR@newsnet., new wrote:
>>> 
>>> Investigators reportedly have opened several graves of Yemenite Jewish
>>> babies and found them to be empty - a discovery that might support
>>> claims that Yemenite children were taken from their parents for adoption
>>> decades ago.
>>> 
>>> For years, Yemenite activists have claimed hundreds of babies declared
>>> dead were actually given to adoptive parents of European descent. If the
>>> claims are true, it could further sour relations between Middle Eastern
>>> and European Jews in Israel.
>>> 
>>> The four graves at Tel Aviv's Givat Shaul cemetery were opened last
>>> Wednesday as part of an official investigation, with a rabbi and family
>>> members present.
>>> 
>>> Wooden signs over the empty graves bore the names Ruthie Babu, Ruthie
>>> Cohen, Reuven Rafaelo and Moshe Mishraki, Israel TV reported Saturday.
>>> All were hospitalized when only a few months old. Their parents never
>>> saw them again, nor did they see a body or a death certificate.
>>> 
>>> ``Now there is no doubt that this was an affair of planned fraud in
>>> which funerals were staged and evidence was falsified,'' said Ora
>>> Shifris, a spokesman for the Yemenite families.
>>> 
>>> Hundreds of children disappeared during the mass immigration of Yemenite
>>> Jews in the early 1950s, when the immigrants were housed in tent camps.
>>> Camp officials and medical staff denied any wrongdoing, saying there was
>>> chaos in the camps, where many babies were sickly and died.
>>> 
>>> Two other commissions have investigated the affair, but many families
>>> dismissed their inconclusive findings.
>>> 
>>> In 1994, radical Yemenite activist Uzi Meshulam and a group of armed
>>> followers barricaded themselves in a house in Tel Aviv for six weeks to
>>> press demands for a new inquiry. One of the followers was killed in a
>>> shootout with police, and Meshulam is serving a 6  1/2-year prison term.
>>> But the confrontation created a furor that led to the current
>>> commission, which has subpoena powers.
>>> 
>>> Israel's 4.7 million Jews are roughly evenly divided between those of
>>> Middle Eastern and European descent, but the latter have always been
>>> dominant economically and socially.
>>
>>
>>Mr. Jafar.
>>1. The number of children exceeded the thousands, not hundreds.
>>2. Most of the low Paige and menial jobs are given to Arab Jews.
>>3. For economic reasons, most of the prostitutes in Israel are underage
>>Yemenites (and now Russian) Jewish little girls.
>>4. Rejecting the blood of the African Jews (the Falasha) is just on of
>>the facet of the fascist Zionist life. The Falasha Jews are prohibited
>>from performing marriages and funeral. Only Aryan Jews are allowed to do
>>that besides some Arab Jews who had to (convert) to Judaism, the Aryan
>>style.



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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:56:26 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:04:59 -0500, "Shabati..Zvi Äbuishneineh"
> wrote:
>
>>SJAFAR@newsnet., new wrote:
>>> 
>>> Investigators reportedly have opened several graves of Yemenite Jewish
>>> babies and found them to be empty - a discovery that might support
>>> claims that Yemenite children were taken from their parents for adoption
>>> decades ago.
>>> 
>>> For years, Yemenite activists have claimed hundreds of babies declared
>>> dead were actually given to adoptive parents of European descent. If the
>>> claims are true, it could further sour relations between Middle Eastern
>>> and European Jews in Israel.
>>> 
>>> The four graves at Tel Aviv's Givat Shaul cemetery were opened last
>>> Wednesday as part of an official investigation, with a rabbi and family
>>> members present.
>>> 
>>> Wooden signs over the empty graves bore the names Ruthie Babu, Ruthie
>>> Cohen, Reuven Rafaelo and Moshe Mishraki, Israel TV reported Saturday.
>>> All were hospitalized when only a few months old. Their parents never
>>> saw them again, nor did they see a body or a death certificate.
>>> 
>>> ``Now there is no doubt that this was an affair of planned fraud in
>>> which funerals were staged and evidence was falsified,'' said Ora
>>> Shifris, a spokesman for the Yemenite families.
>>> 
>>> Hundreds of children disappeared during the mass immigration of Yemenite
>>> Jews in the early 1950s, when the immigrants were housed in tent camps.
>>> Camp officials and medical staff denied any wrongdoing, saying there was
>>> chaos in the camps, where many babies were sickly and died.
>>> 
>>> Two other commissions have investigated the affair, but many families
>>> dismissed their inconclusive findings.
>>> 
>>> In 1994, radical Yemenite activist Uzi Meshulam and a group of armed
>>> followers barricaded themselves in a house in Tel Aviv for six weeks to
>>> press demands for a new inquiry. One of the followers was killed in a
>>> shootout with police, and Meshulam is serving a 6  1/2-year prison term.
>>> But the confrontation created a furor that led to the current
>>> commission, which has subpoena powers.
>>> 
>>> Israel's 4.7 million Jews are roughly evenly divided between those of
>>> Middle Eastern and European descent, but the latter have always been
>>> dominant economically and socially.
>>
>>
>>Mr. Jafar.
>>1. The number of children exceeded the thousands, not hundreds.
>>2. Most of the low Paige and menial jobs are given to Arab Jews.
>>3. For economic reasons, most of the prostitutes in Israel are underage
>>Yemenites (and now Russian) Jewish little girls.
>>4. Rejecting the blood of the African Jews (the Falasha) is just on of
>>the facet of the fascist Zionist life. The Falasha Jews are prohibited
>>from performing marriages and funeral. Only Aryan Jews are allowed to do
>>that besides some Arab Jews who had to (convert) to Judaism, the Aryan
>>style.



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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:23:16 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Oct 1997 02:44:25 GMT, john_davis1@spamfree.juno.com (Doc
>Tavish II) wrote:
>
>>Well I'll declare; another EDU web site and it has material on
>>Communists and who they were!
>>
>>Look:
>>
>>Originally named Lev Davidovich Bronstein, Trotsky was born on
>>November 7, 1879, in Kherson Province in Ukraine, the son of Russified
>>Jews. He was educated in Odessa and in Mykolayiv and was a star pupil
>>with enormous intellectual capabilities.
>>
>>Trotsky's political involvement began in 1896 in a circle of Mykolayiv
>>Populists, but he soon converted to Marxism. After a brief  stay at
>>Odessa University, he returned to Mykolayiv in 1897 to organize the
>>Southern Russian Workers Union. For this he was arrested, jailed, and
>>exiled. He escaped from Siberian exile in 1902, fleeing to Europe and
>>adopting the pseudonym Trotsky. Abroad he joined Lenin, L. Martov,
>>Georgy Plekhanov, and other Russian Social-Democrats, who were
>>publishing Iskra (The Spark). By vitue of his flair for polemic
>>writing and oratorical brilliance, he quickly rose in the party.
>>
>>At the party's Second Congress in 1903 Trotsky opposed Lenin and the
>>Bolsheviks, siding with the Mensheviks. His characteristic
>>independence, however, kept him from cementing any organizational
>>ties. Alone of the major party leaders, he rushed back to Russia to be
>>an active participant in the 1905 Revolution, where he gained
>>practical experience as chairman of the Saint Petersburg Soviet of
>>Workers Deputies. Jailed in December 1905 and later exiled to Siberia,
>>Trotsky used his time to reconsider the paradoxes of revolution in
>>backward Russia. He synthesized his thoughts in two books, 1905 and
>>Results and Prospects.
>>
>>Escaping from Siberia in 1907, Trotsky spent the next decade defending
>>his ideas and engaging in émigré squabbling. The March Revolution of
>>1917 caught him by surprise in New York City, where he wrote for a
>>Russian newspaper. Trotsky reached Russia in May, quickly assumed
>>leadership of the independent left Social-Democratic Interdistrict
>>Group, and joined the Petrograd (as St. Petersburg was renamed)
>>Soviet. Within weeks, he had gained enormous popularity as the most
>>eloquent agitator of the Soviet left. In July, after being courted by
>>Lenin, he joined the Bolshevik party and was elected to its Central
>>Committee.
>>
>>As a Bolshevik, Trotsky was elected chairman of the Soviet in
>>September. He sided with Lenin on the need to overthrow the
>>provisional government and devoted all his energies to marshaling
>>support for the armed uprising of the Bolsheviks. With Lenin in
>>hiding, Trotsky was the general in charge, and he successfully
>>directed the masses of workers and soldiers in the November
>>revolution......
>>
>>Above found at:
>>http://www.idbsu.edu/surveyrc/Staff/jaynes/marxism/bios/trotsky.htm
>>
>>Let's review: Trotsky was a Jew actually named Bronstein, he was in
>>New York City for a while and he was elected chairman of the Soviet!
>>
>>Does this make sense now? Soviets were Jews?
>>
>>From Lucy Dawidowicz's book The War Against the Jews 1933-1945 by
>>Bantam  #13084-6  says on page 377: "Exploiting the superstitious
>>anti-Semitic prejudices  of the Lithuanians, the Balts, and Ukrainians
>>and activating their accumulated hatred for the Soviets, the Germans
>>harnessed the violent  energies of these willing collaborates to round
>>up and kill Jews."
>>
>>I now ask: "How could the Ukrainians have been anti-Semitic toward the
>>Soviets, if the Soviets weren't in fact Jews? Because the Soviet Union
>>was a Jewish  conceived and run totalitarian state! 
>>
>>>said!>
>>
>>Link to UK site on Russian Revolution:
>>
>>http://www.barnsdle.demon.co.uk/russ/rusrev.html
>>
>>Try also:
>>
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/Archive/1930-HRR/
>>
>>More on Leo Bronstein (I mean Trotsky!)
>>Try:
>>http://csf.Colorado.EDU/psn/marx/Other/Trotsky/
>>
>>which states:
>>
>>"Lev Davidovich Bronstein. Leader of the Russian Revolution. Architect
>>of the Red Army. Commissar of foreign affairs between 1917-1924."
>>Let's see ol' Bronstein was the Leader of the Revolution and the
>>Architect of the Red Army too!
>>
>>The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia stated:
>>
>>"Whatever the racial antecedents of their top man, the first Soviet
>>commissariats were largely staffed with Jews. The Jewish position in
>>the Communist movement was well understood in Russia. The White Armies
>>which opposed the Bolshevik government linked Jews and Bolsheviks as
>>common enemies" (Univ. Jew Encyc.,  Vol. I, p. 336).
>>
>>Consider this:
>>
>>Among the Jews who remained in Russia, which then included Lithuania,
>>Ukraine (A History of Ukraine, Michael Hrushevsky, Yale University
>>Press, 1941, passim), and much of Poland, were the founders of the
>>Russian Bolshevik party.
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish workers in Poland
>>and Lithuania. . . They engaged in revolutionary activity upon a large
>>scale, and their energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol. III, pp
>>824-827).
>>
>>Look the United States Governmet has now at its Library of Congress
>>the Soviet Exhibit that I posted recently!
>>
>>Here is the link:
>>
>>http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Experimental/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>You will run across this:
>>
>>Welcome to the Library of Congress's Soviet Archives exhibit. 
>>
>>I could not find, however, the exhibit in the Library of Congress'
>>Soviet Archives that Sunsite showed:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/soviet.archive.html
>>
>>Once there try all "exhibits" but if you really want an eye-opener try
>>this exhibit:
>>
>>http://sunsite.unc.edu/expo/soviet.exhibit/jac.html
>>
>>You will see as an opener the following:
>>
>>"The Jewish Antifascist Committee (JAC) was formed in Kuibyshev in
>>April 1942. Two Polish Jewish socialists, Henryk Erlich and Viktor
>>Alter (both of whom were later secretly executed), may have proposed
>>the idea to Lavrenti Beria, the head of the NKVD. The organization was
>>meant to serve the interests of Soviet foreign policy and the Soviet
>>military through media propaganda -- as well as through personal
>>contacts with Jews abroad, especially in Britain and the United
>>States, designed to influence public opinion and enlist foreign
>>support for the Soviet war effort.
>>
>>The chairman of the JAC was Solomon Mikhoels, a famous actor and
>>director of the Moscow Yiddish State Theater. Shakne Epshtein, a
>>Yiddish journalist, was the secretary and editor of the JAC's
>>newspaper, Einikait (Unity). Other prominent JAC members were the
>>poet Itsik Feffer, a former member of the Bund (a Jewish socialist
>>movement that existed from 1897 to 1921 and supported the Mensheviks
>>[see below for more on the Bund]), the writer Il'ia Ehrenburg,
>>General Aaron Katz of the Stalin Military Academy, and Boris
>>Shimelovich, the chief surgeon of the Red Army, as well as some
>>non-Jews from the arts, sciences, and the military.
>>
>>A year after its establishment, the JAC was moved to Moscow and
>>became one of the most important centers of Jewish culture and
>>Yiddish literature until the German invasion. The JAC broadcast
>>pro-Soviet propaganda to foreign audiences several times a week,
>>telling them of the absence of anti-Semitism and of the great
>>anti-Nazi efforts being made by the Soviet military....."
>>
>>Footnote:
>>
>>The BUND:
>>
>>In 1897 was founded the Bund, the union of Jewish
>>workers in Poland and Lithuania. . . They engaged in
>>revolutionary activity upon a large scale, and their
>>energy made them the spearhead of the Party (Article
>>on "Communism" by Harold J. Laski, Encyc. Brit., Vol.
>>III, pp 824-827).
>>
>>In Russia and abroad in the late nineteenth century,
>>not only Bundists but other Khazar Jews had been
>>attracted to the writings of Karl Marx (1818-1883),
>>partly, it seems, because he was Jewish in origin.
>>"On both paternal and maternal sides Karl Marx was
>>descended from rabbinical families" (Univ. Jew.
>>Encyc., Vol.VII, p. 289).
>>
>>Under Nicholas II, there was no abatement of the
>>regulations designed, after the murder of Alexander II,
>>To curb the anti-government activities of Jews;
>>consequently, the " reaction to those excesses was
>>Jewish support of the Bolsheviks. . ."(Univ. Jew. Encyc.,
>>Vol. I, p. 286.) The way to such support was easy since
>>the predecessor organization of Russian Communism was the
>>Jewish "Bund." 
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Maybe the JOG censored it.
>>
>>                Doc Tavish Reporting on the spot.
>>                I will find all credible sites
>>                that prove Communism was/is Jewish!
>>                Till the next installment!



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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:40:16 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>25,700 Polish soldiers were murdered at KATYN by the JEW-led KGB
>Soviets, not 3,000 which the Jew apologists claim.
>
>They were murdered at a time when the Soviets were supposed allies of
>the anti-Germans.
>
>Why should you trust JEWS, and their interference in Polish affairs at
>Oswiecim?
>
>
>On 29 Oct 1998 00:26:43 GMT, ru8xx@aol.com (RU8xx) wrote:
>
>>Igal wrote:
>>
>>>Recently, I have found in one book about Stalin’s time, that in Katin' were
>>>killed about 3000 polish solders and officers. As I remember German killed
>>>only in 1940 not less then 40 000 polish captured solders in death camps.
>>>Ratio is 1:10 (or more). If considering information is true, why Katin' is
>>>important for W.W.II? 3000 solders and officers is not significant number for
>>>W.W.II.
>>>
>>>Look like somebody try to flame anti-Russian propaganda for own political
>>>purposes.
>>>
>>>If I am wrong - please explain me reasonable.
>>
>>Igal,
>>I think you are wrong.
>>Find simply the basic information on the internet.
>>The first one I've find / http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/1791/:
>>
>>"Katyn Forest is a wooded area near Gneizdovo village, a short distance from
>>Smolensk in Russia where, in early 1940, the NKVD, on Stalin's orders shot and
>>buried over 4000 Polish service personnel that had been taken prisoner when the
>>Soviet Union invaded Poland in September 1939 in support of the Nazis. 
>>
>>In 1943 the Nazis exhumed the Polish dead and blamed the Soviets. In 1944,
>>having retaken the Katyn area from the Nazis, the Soviets exhumed the Polish
>>dead again and blamed the Nazis. The rest of the world took its usual sides in
>>such arguments. 
>>
>>In 1989, with the collapse of Soviet Power, Premier Gorbachev finally admitted
>>that the Soviet NKVD had executed the Poles, and confirmed two other burial
>>sites similar to the site at Katyn. Stalin's order of March 1940 to execute by
>>shooting some 25,700 Poles, including those found at the three sites, was also
>>disclosed with the collapse of Soviet Power. This particular slaughter of Poles
>>is often referred to as the "Katyn Massacre". 
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>.............................................
>>                                                                          
>>                                                                          
>>            Pawel Jedrzejewski           RU8xx@aol.com



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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site. 
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>groups. 
>
>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable. 
>
>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>
>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>
>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists. 
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>forgotten. 
>
>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>be removed. 
>>
>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>
>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>
>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>the moment.'' 
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold. 
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>
>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>
>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>
>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>
>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>Jewish community.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>



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On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:19:23 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:06:54 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> 
>>> dddddddddddddd
>>> 
>>> Grigori, if you do not know or do not believe me, please read the
>>> monograph about Lazar Kaganowich by his American cousin titled The Wolf
>>> of the Kremlin.  Stven eventually was given permission by Brezhnev to
>>> visit his uncle in Moscow.  Look in Stevens book at the photo of his
>>> aunt Rosa and unkle Mikhail Kaganovich who was shot with the blessing of
>>> Lazar and Rosa for treason which was sympathy for Israel.
>>> 
>>> Mikhail learned zionsim on his trip in USA during WW II and he was
>>> commissar of Soviet aviation.
>>> 
>>> Pawlikowski deserves from you apology, but I doubut he will get it.
>>> 
>>> Some Jews are simply michigene
>>> ---------
>>> RAgan
>>> 
>>> Grigori Khaskin wrote:
>>> >
>>> > PAWLIKOWSKI (polhistsoc@earthlink.net) wrote:
>>> >
>>> > : Klan of Kaganoviches, Soviet Jews who ran USSR at that time (Rosa
>>> > : Kaganowich, M.D. being at that time Stalins wife) felt scorned by
>>> > : Israel.  Hell know no furry as the woman scorned!
>>> >
>>> > What interesting here, that all it is lie, but the name of Lazar
>>> > Kaganovich.
>>> >
>>> > #1. Kaganovich had no "clan", especially one who was running USSR.
>>> >
>>> > Better you, patologycal judofob, invent something new, remotely close to
>>> > reality, like "Georgian Djugashvili when studied in christian seminary was
>>> > forcefullyu converted to Judaizm and than under name Stalin
>>> > successfully tried to kill all polish christians worldwide".
>>> >
>>> > #2. STalin never had a wife with the name "Rosa", not talking about Rosa
>>> > Kaganovich, M.D. because:
>>> >
>>> > #3. Lazar Kaganovich NEVER have a sister Rosa Kaganovich.
>>> >
>>> > That lies you are repeating was put in circulation with Russian
>>> > antisemitic blacj hundred organization "Pamiat" in the end of 80th and
>>> > was exposed countless times as an open lie in Russian periodicals.
>>> >
>>> > #4. Affiliation of patologycal commie Kaganovich and Israel came from the
>>> > same garbage dumpster.
>>> >
>>> > #5. Stalin with the help of his henchmen Beria at the time was preparing
>>> > the wholesale deportation Jews to death camps in Siberia, and started to
>>> > unfold so-called "Case of Jewish doctors", implicating all Jewish M.D. who
>>> > worked in Kremlin hospital killing of communist party leaders admitted to
>>> > hospital. It had to become a spark to deportation. Thanx G-d the bastard
>>> > died himself on Purim night and deportation was aborted.
>>> >
>>> > Does it look, like that scenario was running by a jews? Dear
>>> > Padlikowsky? Maybe unexisted M.D. Kaganovich tried to get rid of worldwide
>>> > known M.D. in Moscow?
>>> >
>>> > You are laughable, moron.
>>> >
>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>> >
>>> > G.K.
>>> >
>>> > : USSR hoped to control Arab oilpipes then going  through Israel.
>>> >
>>> > Pipelines THROUGH Israel? Pumping oil there in 1940th? Time to call Mr.
>>> > Padlikowsky a veterinarian, and teacher in geography.
>>> >
>>> > : USSR staged Kielce and other pogroms to stock Palestine with Soviet
>>> > : Jews  but these indoctrinated Jews did not bother with USSR once in
>>> > : Israel.
>>> >
>>> > No, no. Glory of Kielce is a badge of honor on your antisemitic mighty
>>> > chest.
>>> >
>>> > But what pogrom in Kielce has in common with stocking of Palestine with
>>> > SOVIET jews? Especially when all info about Kielce was immediately
>>> > SUPPRESSED for ten's of years?
>>> >
>>> > Why it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get from Russia to Israel all that years??
>>> > And it was a multitude of jews who was refused an exit visas and instead
>>> > of Near East were sent to Far North?
>>> >
>>> > : Elementary HErmie HH
>>> > : ---------
>>> > : Pawlikowski
>>> >
>>> > Unfortunately, that tipe of lies almost never elementary. despite such a
>>> > lies have been produced by thou who have one convolution in the brain, and
>>> > even this one was straiten by Waffen SS side-cap. Unfortunately a rebuke
>>> > required and time had been waisted for such an imbecile.
>>> >
>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>> >
>>> > G.K.
>>
>>
>>It seems that the Russian JEWs, and their lackeys have already forgotten
>>who established the Soviet secret Police, forerunners of the dreaded KGB
>>- it was that great JEW Felix DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>
>>It was the secret police that engaged in genocide - first on the
>>Russians, then the more than 30 million Ukrainians murdered by the JEW
>>Kommissars!!!
>>
>>How many tens of millions bodies does it take to REMEMBER - that it was
>>the SOVIET JEWS who first engaged in genocide?



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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>
>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>By Sean Maguire
>>Sept. 14, 1998
>
>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>
>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>sensitive site. 
>
>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>groups. 
>
>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>
>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>site inevitable. 
>
>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>
>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>
>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>
>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>
>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>
>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>and nationalists. 
>
>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>forgotten. 
>
>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>be removed. 
>>
>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>
>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>
>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>the moment.'' 
>
>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>
>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>
>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>international funding, are on hold. 
>
>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>
>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>
>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>
>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>
>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>
>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>
>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>
>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>Jewish community.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>



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On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:48:00 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:31:48 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
> wrote:
>
>>============
>>Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>>Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>>the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>>occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>>seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>>Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>>draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>>after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>>why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>>
>>Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres. 
>>Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>>hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>>grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>>that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>>young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>>afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>>find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>>presently in Lithuania.
>>
>>But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>>occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>>were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei. 
>>They were ususally not armed, and when armed never given more than five
>>bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>>(as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>>each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>>the genocide.
>>
>>On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>>service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>>emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>>Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>>post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>>education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>>
>>But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>>Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>>of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>>journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>>from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>>closed.
>>
>>While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>>intelligentia clamored for the police work.  
>>
>>Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>>description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>>Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>>Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>>three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>>Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>>the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>>
>>-------------
>>Jozef Pawlikowski
>>
>>We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>>graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>>ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>>dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>>ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>>
>>------------
>>
>>
>>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>>> 
>>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), cz mogli moze
>>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>>> mundurow?
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/
>>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>>> 
>>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), czy mogli moze
>>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>>> mundurow?
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/



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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:39:08 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:53:01 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On 15 Jun 1998 14:08:53 GMT, justice_online@NoSPAM-2372.juno.com
>>wrote:
>>
>>The State of Israel will forever struggle on how to explain its
>>propaganda about the Nazi era, while at the same time applying
>>Nazi-like tactics to ethnically cleanse Palestine of its Moslem and
>>Christian natives.
>>
>>Its absurd for Israel to blackmail Switzerland for being truly neutral
>>in WWII, while publically and shamelessly committing crimes against
>>humanity in Palestine.
>>
>>During the short life of Israel, its been involved in Genocides,
>>Ethnic Cleansing, Random and Collective Punishment, Home Demolitions,
>>and many other grave crimes against mostly civilian population in
>>Palestine and Lebanon as tens of teethless UN Reselution and millions
>>of Palestinian refugees attest to.
>>
>>Its incomprehensible, un-Christian, and immoral for the US Government
>>to give billion$ to the Criminal State of Israel to
>>ethnically cleanse the Moslem and Christian natives from Palestine.
>>
>>In conclusion, Zionists seem to say that Nazi Germany was wrong not by
>>what they did, but whom they did it too!
>>
>>
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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:47:27 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:48:22 GMT, sbjarnason@eretz.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>JEWISH JOKES
>>
>>How was copper wiring invented?
>>Two Jews fighting over a penny!
>>
>>
>>How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
>>They put parking meters on the roof!
>>
>>
>>Why is money green?
>>Because Jews pick it before it's ripe!
>>
>>
>>What candy did Hitler hate more then any other?
>>Jew Jew Beans... Although I heard he enjoyed them "roasted!"
>>
>>
>>If Tarzan and Jane were Jewish, what would Cheetah be?
>>A fur coat!
>>
>>
>>Why don't Jews eat pork?
>>They may be a lot of things, but CANNIBALS they're not!
>>
>>
>>Why aren't Jews attacked by sharks?
>>Professional courtesy!
>>
>>
>>Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
>>Let one in, and he'll keep the rest out.
>>
>>
>>What's the Jewish version of foreplay?
>>Half an hour of begging.
>>
>>
>>How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
>>She's the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!
>>
>>
>>Did you hear about the new tires, Firestein?
>>They not only stop on a dime, they also pick it up!
>>
>>
>>What's the difference between a circumcision and crucifixion?
>>In a crucifixion, they throw the whole Jew out!
>>
>>
>>Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
>>Someone dropped a quarter!
>>
>>
>>Why do Jews have such big noses?
>>Because air is free.
>>
>>
>>What did the Jewish mother ask her daughter when she learned she had
>>an
>>affair?
>>Who catered it?
>>
>>
>>What happens when a Jew with an erection walks into a wall?
>>He breaks his nose.
>>
>>
>>What's a Jewish dilemma?
>>Free ham.
>>
>>
>>What's the difference between a Jewish bitch and a barracuda?
>>Nail polish.
>>
>>
>>What's the difference between an elephant and a Jew?
>>An elephant eventually forgets.
>>
>>
>>A nigger was walking down the street, kicking some rubbish out of his
>>way,
>>when he spotted something amid the trash that gleamed
>>strangely. It urned out to be an oddly shaped bottle, and when he
>>rubbed it, a
>>Jewish genie appeared. "I'll give you two wishes," quipped
>>the genie. "Far out," said the black man. "First, I want to be white,
>>uptight,
>>and out of sight!" Second, I want to be surrounded by warm,
>>sweet pussy. So the genie turned him into a TAMPON! The moral of this
>>story:
>>You can't get anything from a Jew without strings
>>attached!
>>
>>
>>How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
>>Marry her!
>>
>>
>>Why do jewish bitches only sleep with circumcised men?
>>They want 20% off everything!
>>
>>
>>What's the difference between between karate and judo?
>>Karate is a form of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.
>>
>>
>>Did you hear that the limbo was invented by the Jews?
>>Yeah, from sneaking into pay toilets.
>>
>>
>>What's the definition of a queer Jew?
>>Someone that likes girls more then money.
>>
>>
>>What do you call ten Jewish bitches in a basement?
>>A WHINE cellar.
>>
>>
>>Why did the Jewish mother have herself entombed at Bloomingdales?
>>So her daughter would visit at least twice a week.
>>
>>
>>What's the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
>>A vulture waits until you're dead to eat your heart out!
>>
>>-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion
>>==-----
>>http://www.dejanews.com/   Now offering spam-free web-based
>>newsreading
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0700, "WaRR" 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>what do you get when you cross a jewish women and an arab women??
>>>oil of no lay!!
>>>
>>>=what is the difference between karate and judo?
>>>karate is the art of self-defense, and judo is what bagels aremade of.
>>>
>>>=i knew a jewish woman once who thought the apostle's creed was
>>>what fought rocky balboa.
>>>
>>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a toilet?
>>>a toilet doesn't follow you around for 9 months after you use it.
>>>
>>>=did you hear that al italia and el al were merging to form a new airline?
>>>it's called well i'll tell ya.=what do you call a jewish woman's waterbed?
>>>the dead sea. second prize: lake placid.
>>>
>>>=how was copper wire invented?
>>> by 2 jews fighting over a penny.
>>>
>>>=why are jewish men circumcised?
>>> because jewish women won't buy anything unless it's 20% off.
>>>
>>>=what do you call an uncircumcised jewish baby?
>>>a girl.
>>>
>>>=what do you get when you cross a jewish british princess & a computer?
>>>a computer that never goes down on you.
>>>=what's a jewish british princess' favorite wine?
>>> i wanna go to palmsprings.
>>>=how do you know a jewish british princess has an orgasm?
>>>she drops her nail file.
>>>
>>>=what do you have when you get 3 jewish british princesses together
>>>with 3 other women who have yeast infections?a whine and cheese party.
>>>=how many jewish british princesses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>>>two, one to get a diet coke and one to call daddy.
>>>
>>>=why do jewish girls like prostitution?
>>>because they can sell it again and again and again.
>>>
>>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and jello?
>>>jello moves when you eat it.
>>>
>>>=how does a jewish british princess do it doggie style?
>>>she makes him beg for an hour.
>>>
>>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a catholic
>>>british princess?
>>>the catholic british princess has fake jewelry and real orgasms.
>>>
>>>=what's the difference between jews and canoes?
>>>canoes tip.   ( THIS ONE FREAKS ME OUT :)))))
>>>
>>>=what's the difference between jews and pizzas?
>>>pizzas don't scream when you put them in the oven.
>>>
>>>=what is a jewish dilemma?
>>>free ham.
>>>=what do you call a jewish piano?
>>>a cash register.
>>>=how many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
>>>none. they are used to sitting in the dark.
>>>=did you hear about the rabbi who did free circumcisions?
>>>he only took tips.
>>>=how many jews can you fit in a vw?
>>>two in the front, two in the back, and ten thousand in the ash tray.
>>>
>>>=a priest, a baptist minister, and a rabbi were asked how they would
>>>divide up some gold coins between themselves and god. the priest
>>>replied, "i'd draw a line down the middle of the room, throw the
>>>coins in the air, and whatever landed on one side goes to god,
>>>the other to me." the minister replied, "i'd draw a circle in
>>>the middle of the room, and whatever lands inside is for god,
>>>outside for me." the rabbi's answer was, he wouldn't draw any
>>>line, just throw the money in the air and whatever god caughthe could keep.
>>>
>>>
>>>=an italian, a jew, and a homosexual were walking down the street and
>>>were hit by the same bolt of lightning. next thing they know they're
>>>in front of st. peter begging for a second chance. "ok," he says,
>>>"but on one condition: you must give up that which you love the most.
>>>if you don't, you go straight to hell." after agreeing, they find
>>>themselves back on the street and they start walking again. a few
>>>blocks down they pass a pizza store. "i can't help myself!" says the
>>>italian... he goes in, takes a bite of pizza, and poof!, he
>>>disappears. so the jew and the homosexual continue walking
>>>down the street. the jew sees a penny on the sidewalk. "i can't
>>>help myself!" he says. he reaches for the penny and poof! the
>>>homosexual disappears.
>>>
>>>
>>>yours truly
>>>
>>>WaRR
>>>



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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:19:03 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, white_guy88@hotmail.com (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>      I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>>      However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>>      people.
>>>>      No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>>      They come illegally into Israel.
>>>>       Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>>                                            irgun43
>
>>>   Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don't
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand. 
>
>>> "They come illegally ..."  Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel,  and although brothels are 
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach. 
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn't appear to be the case
>>> in Israel. 
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
>
>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it's host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it's too late!
> 



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On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:47:49 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>>
>>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>>
>>
>>>Clancy wrote:
>>
>>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>>
>>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>>
>>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>>
>>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>>> the murderer).
>>
>>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>>> sentiment.
>>
>>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
>> 
>>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>>
>>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
>> 
>>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>>
>>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>>
>>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
>> 
>>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>>> Police.
>>
>>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>>> peasants in Spain.
>> 
>>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>>
>>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>>
>>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
>> 
>>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>>> Meadow).
>>
>>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>>> Julius Rosenwald.
>> 
>>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>>
>>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
>> 
>>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
>> 
>>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>>> member of the Central Committee.
>>
>>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
>> 
>>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
>> 
>>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
>> 
>>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
>> 
>>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
>> 
>>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
>> 
>>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
>> 
>>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>>> LEON KASMAN,
>> 
>>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
>> 
>>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
>> 
>>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>>> raised.
>> 
>>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
>> 
>>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
>> 
>>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
>> 
>>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
>> 
>>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>>> 1992).
>> 
>>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
>> 
>>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
>> 
>>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
>> 
>>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
>> 
>>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
>> 
>>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>>      world-wide social revolution."
>> 
>>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
>> 
>>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
>> 
>>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
>> 
>>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
>> 
>>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
>> 
>>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
>> 
>>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
>> 
>>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>>> 414 New York (1937):
>> 
>>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
>> 
>>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
>> 
>>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>>      Judaism."
>> 
>>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>>
>>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>>
>>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
>> 
>>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
>> 
>>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
>> 
>>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>>      executioners."
>>
>>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>>
>>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
>> 
>>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
>> 
>>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>>> Jewesses.
>>
>>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
>> 
>>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>>> people."
>>
>>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
>> 
>>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
>> 
>>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
>> 
>>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
>> 
>>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
>> 
>>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
>> 
>>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>>
>>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>>> government-funded."
>>
>>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
>> 
>>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>> 
>>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).



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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:57:56 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:50:06 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On 20 Oct 1998 14:46:50 GMT, "firefly" 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>THE CROSS IS NOBODY BUSSINESS< IT IS ON  POLAND LAND
>>>POLAND HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT WHAT THEY WANT  INSIDE
>>>IN THEIR COUNTRY.THIS IS INTERNAL AFFAIR   < IT IS NOT AOUR
>>>AFFAIR.COMPRENDE!!!!
>>
>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>>>
>>>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>>>By Sean Maguire
>>>>Sept. 14, 1998
>>>
>>>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>>>
>>>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>>>sensitive site. 
>>>
>>>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>>>groups. 
>>>
>>>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>>>
>>>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>>>site inevitable. 
>>>
>>>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>>>
>>>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>>>
>>>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>>>
>>>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>>>
>>>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>>>
>>>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>>>and nationalists. 
>>>
>>>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>>>forgotten. 
>>>
>>>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>>>be removed. 
>>>>
>>>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>>>
>>>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>>>
>>>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>>>the moment.'' 
>>>
>>>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>>>
>>>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>>>
>>>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>>>international funding, are on hold. 
>>>
>>>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>>>
>>>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>>>
>>>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>>>
>>>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>>>
>>>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>>>
>>>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>>>
>>>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>>>
>>>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>>>Jewish community.
>>



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:10:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 20:29:58 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:14:31 -0800, Chris Dollmont 
>>wrote:
>>>intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
>>
>>>> : someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>> : : In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>>>> : : Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.
>>
>>>> Actually it is anti Christian for the Jews to have our cross removed.
>>>> Grosvenor is merely pointing out the atrocity and sacrilege caused by the
>>>> Jews in desecrating our Remembrance day.
>>
>>>The Jews did not have the cross removed from the cenotaph! The only place
>>>that happened was in the mind of one William Grosvenor. Here are the facts:
>>>
>>>1) The cross was removed from the cenotaph.
>>>2) The removal was an attempt to make the cenotaph less 'religious' and open
>>>to more groups.
>>>3) Although Grosvenor fingers Len Dolgoy, the newspaper articles that he
>>>(mis)cites clearly state that, while Dolgoy did bring the matter up, he made
>>>no formal complaint.
>>
>>The Edmonton Journal in interviewing the JEW Dolgoy, quote him as
>>stating that he DID complain.
>>>
>>>Personally, I feel that the removal of the cross is wrong.
>>
>>All Christians are outraged about this one more attempt by the cursed
>>JEWs to desecrate the symbol not only for all the millions of
>>Christians who died, but to desecrate Remembrance Day!!!
>>[File: C:\Program Files\Netscape\files\cenotaph.txt]



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:40:26 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>
>>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>>>	
>>>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>
>>>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>>>
>>>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>Archives:         
>>>        
>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>>>         
>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>>>
>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>>>       
>>>         
>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>Government."         
>>>
>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>>>
>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>>>
>>>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>>>
>>>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>>>
>>>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>Gordon. 
>>>
>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>were Jews. 
>>>
>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>did not take kindly to it." 
>>>
>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>
>>>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>>>
>>>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>4, 1919) 
>>>	
>>>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>
>>>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>>>
>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>himself:
>>>
>>>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>
>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>
>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>>>
>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>Communist bosses.
>>> 
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People 
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>>>                http://www.natvan.com
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>     Roger's Page  http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>>      Keep It White Because You Know It's Right!
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 02:10:12 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:27:50 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 11:12:03 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>>Grigori Khaskin wrote:
>>
>>>> : It seems that the Russian JEWs, and their lackeys have already forgotten
>>>> : who established the Soviet secret Police, forerunners of the dreaded KGB
>>>> : - it was that great JEW Felix DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>
>>>> Iron Felix was somehow 100% polish if you want to bring race
>>>> question to history following hitler writings, you stuck with that. And,
>>>> btw, Red Terror started, when CHEKA member jew Moses Uritsky was killed by
>>>> antibolshevik jew Leonid Kanegisser and jew Dora Kaplan (renamed later to
>>>> Fanni) tried to exterminate Lenin (she was killed by Russian Kremlin
>>>> comendant P.D.Mal`kov)
>>
>>>> : It was the secret police that engaged in genocide - first on the
>>>> : Russians, then the more than 30 million Ukrainians murdered by the JEW
>>>> : Kommissars!!!
>>
>>>> : How many tens of millions bodies does it take to REMEMBER - that it was
>>>> : the SOVIET JEWS who first engaged in genocide?
>>
>>>> Your pathetic lies do not cover the fact that revolution and whatever came
>>>> after it was made MOSTLY by russians with the help of course of all
>>>> brotherly nations - lituaninas, polish, georgian and as well jews. But
>>>> more than 3/4 of russian in the bolshevik gand (and Russian was making
>>>> less than 53% according to census in 1924) sound a little bit like
>>>> overrepresentation. And that is why you blame jews for own crimes and
>>>> terminal stupidity.
>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> G.K.
>>
>>>Glad to see that even a stupid Russian can sometimes tell the truth -
>>>ABOUT THE JEWS CONTROLLING THE FORMER SOVIET UNION!!!
>>
>>>I find it offensive that you wish to blame some Polish people, who were
>>>JEWS, for the fact that the former Soviet union regularly engaged in
>>>genocide.



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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 18:01:02 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:45:55 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:54:25 GMT, vincent@dreamon.com wrote:
>>
>>>[From The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 1992 issue]
>>>
>>> "The Secret Files: How AIPAC Can Slander You By Stealth -- An
>>>Insider's Expose"
>>>
>>>-or-
>>>
>>>"The Secret Section in Israel's U.S. Lobby That Stifles American
>>>Debate"
>>>
>>> by Gregory D. Slabodkin
>>>
>>> 
>>>During the reign of terror that Senator Joseph McCarthy unleashed in
>>>the 1950s, when the reputations and lives of many loyal Americans were
>>>ruined by false charges of "communism" and "treason," American Jewry
>>>was overwhelmingly opposed to the Wisconsin senator and his blackmail
>>>by blacklists. According to the Gallup polls of the time, the
>>>percentage of U.S. Jews who opposed McCarthy's smear tactics was twice
>>>that of the rest of the population. Many Jewish organizations passed
>>>resolutions condemning McCarthy's ruthless character assassination.
>>>
>>>Today, however, such national Jewish organizations as the
>>>Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) and the American Israel
>>>Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) are using the same tactics to stifle
>>>open debate of U.S. policy in the Middle East.
>>>
>>>
>>>Secretly Circulated Lists
>>>
>>>
>>> To Conduct this "neo-McCarthyism," AIPAC operates a covert section
>>>within its research department that monitors and keeps files on
>>>politicians, journalists, academics, Arab-American activists, Jewish
>>>liberals, and others it labels "anti-Israel."  AIPAC selects
>>>information from these files and secretly circulates lists of the
>>>"guilty," together with their alleged political misdeeds, buttressed
>>>by their statements, often totally out of context.
>>>
>>>Just as McCarthy's permanent investigations subcommittee labeled
>>>criticism of specific policies of the U.S. government as "anti-
>>>American" or "pro-Soviet," AIPAC labels criticism of Israeli
>>>government policies "anti-Israel," "pro-Arab" or "pro-PLO."  Still
>>>worse is the pro-Israel lobby's redefinition of "anti-Semitism" to
>>>include any such criticism of Israel or its actions.
>>>
>>> To date, revelations about AIPAC's blacklisting and smear tactics
>>>have barely scratched the surface of the pro-Israel lobby's secret
>>>activities. Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his 1985 best-selling
>>>book _They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront
>>>Israel's Lobby_, documented what he could see of that lobby's impact
>>>on U.S. politics, defense, foreign and economic policies, as well as
>>>academia and the media. However, as an insider who worked within
>>>AIPAC's stealth section, I can confirm what Findley could only
>>>surmise. That an organized blacklisting operation exists is a tragic
>>>fact that no longer should be ignored.
>>>
>>> AIPAC's "opposition research" department traces its roots to I.L.
>>>(Sy) Kenen, who founded AIPAC in 1954. As editor of AIPAC's weekly
>>>_Near East Report_, he often attacked critics of Israel in his aptly
>>>titled column, "The Monitor."  Besides monitoring, analyzing, and
>>>responding to "anti-Israel" comment and activities in the United
>>>States, Kenen also kept files on AIPAC's "enemies."  In his final year
>>>AIPAC began to expand its intelligence-gathering operations.
>>>
>>> Kenen's memoirs, _Israel's Defense Line: Her Friends and Foes in 
>>>Washington_, record how AIPAC pooled resources in 1974 with the
>>>American Jewish Committee and other national Jewish organizations to
>>>create a "truth squad."  Its purpose was to combat "pro-Arab
>>>propaganda" and the emerging "Arab lobby," which Kenen believed to be
>>>a growing threat to the U.S.-Israel relationship.
>>>
>>> "While vigorously defending Israel's perceived interests, the
>>>organizations that created the truth squad turned into a kind of
>>>Jewish thought police," journalist Robert I. Friedman explains.
>>>"Investigators -- sometimes overzealous Jewish college students,
>>>sometimes sources with access to U.S. intelligence agencies -- were
>>>used to ferret out critics of Israel, Jew or gentile, wherever they
>>>might be. At ADL and AIPAC, files were opened on journalists,
>>>politicians, scholars and community activists. Their speeches and
>>>writings were monitored, as were, in some cases, their other
>>>professional activities. And they were often smeared with charges of
>>>anti-Semitism or with the pernicious label of self-hating Jew. The
>>>intention was to stifle debate on the Middle East within the Jewish
>>>community, the media and academia, for fear that criticism of any kind
>>>would weaken the Jewish state."
>>>
>>> When Kenen stepped down as executive director of AIPAC in December
>>>1974, the task of monitoring Israel's "enemies" was left to the
>>>department of research and information at AIPAC, where it has remained
>>>ever since.
>>>
>>>
>>> Monitoring Israel's "Enemies"
>>>
>>>
>>>Morris Amitay, Kenen's successor as AIPAC executive director, did not 
>>>follow Kenen's practice of countering "pro-Arab propaganda" with
>>>polished editorials in the _Near East Report_.  Amitay was more
>>>concerned with developing AIPAC into a first-rate lobbying
>>>organization, as demonstrated by the fact that AIPAC grew dramatically
>>>during his six-year reign. These also were key years in the growth of
>>>intelligence gathering.
>>>
>>>Some of the growth resulted from the challenge presented by a small, 
>>>dovish, Jewish organization of the late 1970s known as Breira.
>>>"Breira," the Hebrew word for "alternative," was organized by a tiny
>>>group of American Jewish rabbis, professors and other activists from
>>>the civil rights and anti-war movement of the 1960s.
>>>
>>>Recognizing that the U.S. Jewish community was not monolithic on the
>>>subject of Israel, Breira encouraged American Jews to question
>>>Israel's policies in the occupied territories after the 1967 Six-Day
>>>War and to engage in an open and frank debate on U.S. foreign policy
>>>in the Middle East. Many Breira positions reflected those of the Peace
>>>Now movement in Israel.
>>>
>>>However, American Jewish organizations would not tolerate in the U.S. 
>>>the dissent that characterized political debate in Israel. Instead
>>>AIPAC and other Jewish organizations set out to silence Breira by
>>>discrediting its members. Although these Jewish peaceniks were
>>>motivated by love and concern for Israel, they were smeared as "anti-
>>>Israel," "pro-PLO," and "self-hating Jews."
>>>
>>>Kenen, still serving as acting editor of AIPAC's _Near East Report_, 
>>>charged that Breira "undermined U.S. support for Israel."  Only one
>>>prominent Jewish leader defended Breira. He was Rabbi Alexander
>>>Schindler, president of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations,
>>>who called the attack on Breira a "witch hunt."  He was ignored,
>>>however, and the swift and successful campaign to snuff out Breira set
>>>the "rules" for dissent in the American Jewish community, as well as
>>>who would be the "enforcer" of these "rules."
>>>
>>>As Edward Tivnan observed in his book, _The Lobby: Jewish Political 
>>>Power and American Foreign Policy_: "By attacking Breira, Jewish
>>>leaders had turned over much of their power to AIPAC, Israel's most
>>>loyal agent in the U.S. and a proved enemy of dissent from Israeli
>>>policies, among Jews as well as gentiles."
>>>
>>>In the late 1970s and early 1980s, AIPAC published an annual "Who's
>>>Who" of "anti-Israel organizations and personalities, providing
>>>important background information for AIPAC members who must deal with
>>>them in the political arena."  AIPAC photocopied these "enemies lists"
>>>to meet increasing requests by its members for materials on
>>>"anti-Israel" forces.
>>>
>>>
>>>AIPAC's "War for Washington"
>>>
>>>
>>>Thomas Dine, a former legislative assistant to Senator Ted Kennedy,
>>>who replaced Amitay in 1980 as AIPAC executive director, expanded
>>>AIPAC's opposition research. This was part of Dine's "War for
>>>Washington," inspired by what he portrayed as the dramatic growth of
>>>"anti-Israel" organizations in the nation's capital. AIPAC was
>>>particularly worried about the Arab-American community, just beginning
>>>to organize.
>>>
>>>In August 1982, AIPAC hired Amy Goott as its first full-time employee
>>>to monitor Israel's "enemies."  Goott was recruited from the
>>>Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, where she had similar duties.
>>>In a speech at the 1983 AIPAC Policy Conference, Goott called on AIPAC
>>>members to send useful information to her in Washington.
>>>
>>>In June 1983, AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_, 
>>>coauthored by Goott. As Dine explained in the handbook's preface, its
>>>purpose was to update the activities of "anti-Israel" organizations
>>>and individuals, and to provide a "more complete and convenient
>>>analysis of this activity" to "meet the needs of AIPAC members."  Yet,
>>>despite its glossy cover and carefully worded and seemingly objective
>>>descriptions, _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_ was nothing more than
>>>a blacklist. By lumping them together, it sought to categorize critics
>>>of all kinds as "enemies" of Israel. The final chapter, "A Directory
>>>of the Actors," profiled 21 organizations and 38 individuals to be
>>>monitored and discredited whenever possible.
>>>
>>>At about the same time that AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit
>>>
>>>Israel_, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith published its own 
>>>document entitled _Pro-Arab Propaganda in America: Vehicles and
>>>Voices_. Overlaps in the texts and the timing reflect Ms. Goott's
>>>employment by both organizations during the period both publications
>>>were in preparation.
>>>
>>>"The primary accusation leveled against the groups and individuals 
>>>listed in the B'nai B'rith and AIPAC books is that they are
>>>'pro-Palestinian' or 'pro-PLO,'" Cheryl Rubenberg writes in her book,
>>>_Israel and the American National Interest_.  "Pro-Israeli groups have
>>>succeeded in associating the words 'Palestinian' and 'PLO' with
>>>terrorism in the minds of Americans; then with techniques reminiscent
>>>of the McCarthy era, they smear their opposition with the label
>>>'pro-PLO.'"
>>>
>>>The smear campaign did not go totally unchallenged within the U.S. 
>>>Jewish community. In December 1983, _New York Times_ columnist Anthony
>>>Lewis criticized AIPAC's tactics, particularly the inclusion in its
>>>"enemies list" of Walid Khalidi, a Palestinian intellectual living in
>>>Boston, as does Lewis.
>>>
>>>Khalidi supports a two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. In
>>>
>>>its handbook, however, AIPAC quoted selectively from one of his
>>>articles to depict him as an extremist calling for the destruction of
>>>Israel.
>>>
>>>"Joe McCarthy could not have produced a nastier distortion" of
>>>Khalidi's views, Lewis wrote. He suggested that Israel's lobby should
>>>welcome Palestinian moderation instead of trying to "smear" it.
>>> 
>>>In November 1984, the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), the 
>>>largest organization of Middle East educators in the United States,
>>>unanimously condemned AIPAC and ADL blacklisting. MESA called on both 
>>>national Jewish organizations to "disavow and refrain from such
>>>activities" as soliciting "unbalanced information on students, faculty
>>>and other parties at American campuses" and "listing factually
>>>inaccurate and unsubstantiated assertions that defame specific
>>>students, teachers and researchers as 'pro-Arab propagandists,' who
>>>'use their anti-Zionism as merely a guise for their deeply felt
>>>anti-Semitism.'"
>>>
>>>When it released the first edition of _The Campaign to Discredit
>>>Israel_ in 1983, AIPAC had announced plans to publish updated versions
>>>annually. 
>>>
>>>However, due to the negative publicity it engendered, the first
>>>edition was also the last. Instead, AIPAC continued its monitoring of
>>>"anti-Israel" activities, but disseminated the results secretly.
>>>
>>>
>>> Going Underground
>>> 
>>>
>>>AIPAC's decision to take its opposition research underground coincided
>>>
>>>with the hiring in the mid-1980s of Michael Lewis and Anna Gottlieb.
>>>Gottlieb joined AIPAC after a stint at the Justice Department's Office
>>>of Special Investigations (OSI). Lewis came to AIPAC from the
>>>Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank closely
>>>associated with the pro-Israel lobby.  
>>>
>>>He is the son of Princeton University "orientalist" Bernard Lewis,
>>>whose writings have been criticized in the Middle East for denigrating
>>>Islam as a religion and Arabs as a people.
>>>
>>>Michael Lewis, the present head of AIPAC's stealth section,
>>>innocuously named Policy Analysis, describes it as a "clearing-house"
>>>for information on anti-Israel organizations and activists to provide
>>>a "resource, and fulfill a need, unreplicated anywhere else."  He has
>>>provided negative information both to rival politicians and to
>>>journalists about prominent individuals whom 
>>>
>>>
>>>AIPAC considers to be "anti-Israel."
>>>
>>>
>>>In one case Lewis provided information that became the basis of a
>>>racist brochure mailed to voters in California's 44th congressional
>>>district by candidate Randy "Duke" Cunningham's campaign in the spring
>>>of 1990. The brochure accused former U.S. Ambassador to Qatar Joseph
>>>Ghougassian, Cunningham's Republican primary election opponent, of
>>>being "bank-rolled by Arab oil interests."  The brochure, featuring a
>>>photo of Ghougassian with a drawing of Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi,
>>>asked: "We don't need a congressman bought and paid for by these
>>>special interests.  Do we?"
>>>
>>>What made this brochure particularly offensive was the fact that 
>>>Cunningham's campaign listed contributors to Ghougassian with Arabic
>>>sounding last names, all of whom were in fact U.S. citizens, and
>>>included the National Association of Arab Americans (NAAA).
>>>Ghougassian, an Egyptian-born Armenian and naturalized U.S. citizen,
>>>lost the primary race against Cunningham who, with AIPAC's support,
>>>went on to win a seat in the 102nd Congress.
>>>
>>>Lewis reports that AIPAC also "provided Steve Emerson with information
>>>
>>>on Alexander Cockburn."  That followed a heated exchange between 
>>>Israel-apologist Emerson and frequent critic of Israel Cockburn on the
>>>
>>>editorial page of _The Wall Street Journal_ in May 1990. Emerson
>>>attacked Cockburn for his "financial agenda."
>>>
>>>"It ought to be remembered," Emerson wrote, "that several years ago
>>>Mr. Cockburn secretly took $10,000 from an organization that had been
>>>funded primarily by the governments of Iraq and Libya and by a bank
>>>known as the PLO's bank."
>>>
>>>Emerson's charge was based on a story which had appeared in a weekly 
>>>alternative newspaper, _The Boston Phoenix_, on Jan. 10, 1984.  _The
>>>Phoenix_ reported that Cockburn received in 1982 a $10,000 grant from
>>>the now defunct Institute of Arab Studies to write a book on the
>>>Israeli invasion of Lebanon and, because Cockburn did not inform them,
>>>editors of the _Village Voice_ "indefinitely suspended" him due to
>>>"appearance of conflict [of interest] and nondisclosure."
>>>
>>>Not surprisingly, AIPAC was the source of the original _Phoenix_ story
>>>
>>>as well as Emerson's attack based on it in _The Wall Street Journal_.
>>>Alan Lupo, _The Boston Phoenix_ reporter who broke the story back in
>>>1984, said AIPAC had told him the Institute for Arab Studies was
>>>"linked to a $100 million campaign to sway U.S. policy against
>>>Israel."  In fact, the Institute had U.S. tax-exempt status and listed
>>>individual contributors within the United States until it closed down
>>>in 1983 due to a lack of funds.
>>>
>>>Deploring the AIPAC-generated "misinformation," editor David 
>>>Schneiderman of the _Village Voice_ wrote on Jan. 24, 1984: "What
>>>Cockburn did not do was take money from an 'Arab propaganda group.'
>>>Moreover he was not 'bought'--he clearly received the grant because of
>>>views he already firmly held. The _Phoenix_ offered no evidence that
>>>the Institute [of Arab Studies] is anything more than what it purports
>>>to be. And despite the reporter's clumsy attempt to say so, Arab does
>>>not always equal Palestinian which does not always equal terrorist.
>>>His unquestioned adoption of claims by the Anti-Defamation League and
>>>the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, hardly disinterested
>>>parties, is poor journalism."
>>>
>>>Even _The Wall Street Journal_, a newspaper with a demonstrated 
>>>pro-Israel editorial bias, questioned the AIPAC-originated charges. In
>>>a Jan. 13, 1984 editorial, _WSJ_ editor Robert Bartley wrote: "Among
>>>all the things I can imagine Alex doing, this one seems fairly
>>>innocuous... On all this we have no opinion, except that even Arabs
>>>should enjoy freedom of speech."
>>>
>>> _The Wall Street Journal_ continued to run Cockburn's monthly column 
>>>opposite the editorial page. Said the _Journal_, tongue only partly in
>>>cheek, "We hired him because of his biases, which we're sure are
>>>totally incorruptible."
>>>
>>>In both of the cases cited, AIPAC attempted to discredit critics of 
>>>Israel not by refuting their arguments, but by trying to tie them to
>>>Arab money. Making an Arab connection can damage the victim's
>>>reputation, the pro-Israel lobby believes, so long as it can encourage
>>>a mindset in the United States that anything Arab-related is tainted.
>>>
>>>Ironically, it is precisely the same kind of racist stereotype to
>>>which the Jewish community is so sensitive, particularly the charge
>>>that Jews exert tremendous influence through the use of their money.
>>>Jewish organizations can and do talk about the power of "Arab money"
>>>and "petro-dollars," yet are quick to decry as anti-Semitic similar
>>>innuendo regarding Jewish financing.
>>>
>>>In another case, AIPAC executive director Dine asked Lewis to analyze 
>>>the positions of Brookings Institution Middle East specialist Judith
>>>Kipper. In an Aug. 17, 1990 memo, Lewis responded: "For the most part,
>>>Kipper is extremely skillful in her writings and statements to avoid
>>>being pinned down as 'anti-Israel.'  She often achieves her goals by
>>>presenting the views of 'moderate Israelis' to state her case."
>>>
>>>In _The New Republic_, and ardently pro-Israel magazine, writer David 
>>>Segal put a more positive spin on Kipper's views in its March 25, 1991
>>>issue: 
>>>
>>>"Her analysis throughout the Gulf crisis said little about the
>>>politics of the Middle East, but a great deal about the politics of
>>>Judith Kipper. It's not that she's anti-Israel -- her criticism would
>>>put her not far from the center of the Israeli Labor Party -- or that
>>>she is pro-Arab. Rather, her politics stem from an unwavering
>>>quasi-religious faith in the power of dialogue."
>>>
>>>There is no greater admission of guilt and wrongdoing than AIPAC's 
>>>strenuous attempts to conceal its blacklisting activities. Senior
>>>AIPAC officials fear that public outrage might follow disclosure of
>>>their covert activities. The name change from "Opposition Research" to
>>>"Policy Analysis" was designed to conceal AIPAC's surveillance,
>>>monitoring, and intelligence-gathering operations. In an Aug 7, 1990
>>>internal memorandum to Steve Rosen, AIPAC Foreign Policy Issues
>>>director, Lewis boasted: 
>>>
>>>"There is no question that we exert a policy impact, but working
>>>behind the scenes and taking care not to leave fingerprints, that
>>>impact is not always traceable to us."
>>>
>>>As part of its intelligence-gathering operation, Policy Analysis has 
>>>created a fictional person and a bogus company to infiltrate opposing 
>>>organizations by paying membership dues or making donations to them.
>>>This AIPAC creation is "Paul Hunt" of "Paul Hunt & Associates."  AIPAC
>>>rents a post office box on Capitol Hill for Mr. Hunt's mail, and has
>>>installed a separate Paul Hunt telephone line in the AIPAC office.
>>>"Paul Hunt" has even been listed as a donor to the _Washington Report
>>>on Middle East Affairs_. 
>>>
>>>Secret _Activities_
>>>
>>>Nowhere is secrecy more meticulously applied than to the production
>>>and distribution of _Activities_, the weekly AIPAC publication which
>>>disseminates information on individuals and organizations critical of
>>>Israel or Israeli policies. Although _Activities_ is the most visible
>>>product of its Policy Analysis section, AIPAC takes great pains to
>>>hide its connection with _Activities_, in order to avoid the
>>>controversy that arose over its blacklisting of "enemies" in its 1983
>>>publication of _The Campaign to 
>>>
>>>
>>>Discredit Israel_.
>>>
>>>
>>> _Activities_' select and tightly controlled recipients are encouraged
>>>to use the material as they see fit, "subject only to the provision
>>>that AIPAC not be attributed as its source."  _Activities_ is
>>>distributed to AIPAC's Washington and regional staff, its officers,
>>>the major Jewish organizational leaders, Jewish Federations and
>>>Community Relations Councils around the nation, pro-Israel activists
>>>and academics.
>>>
>>>It also goes to the Israeli Embassy in Washington and to other
>>>Israelis both in the U.S. and in Israel. AIPAC employees are not
>>>permitted to take _Activities_ out of the office and may not mention
>>>the existence of _Activities_ outside AIPAC's walls. A disquieting
>>>breach of security was revealed at the 1990 national convention of the
>>>American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) when that
>>>organization's president, Abdeen Jabara, referred casually to having
>>>received an AIPAC study entitled 
>>>
>>>
>>>_Activities_.
>>>
>>>
>>>Assessing the problem, Lewis wrote in an April 2, 1990 memorandum to 
>>>Dine: "_Activities_ is distributed to some 400+ people, so it will
>>>probably be impossible to trace the source of this leak. There is
>>>nothing in _Activities_ which points to who is its originator and it
>>>is sent out in plain envelopes, so the material obviously did not just
>>>accidentally get passed on to ADC. This is the first time that any of
>>>these groups have made any reference to their being in receipt of
>>>_Activities_."
>>>
>>>Information contained in _Activities_ has been used by the National 
>>>Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC), American Jewish 
>>>Congress (AJC), Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), Committee for
>>>Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), National Jewish
>>>Coalition (NJC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security
>>>Affairs (JINSA).
>>>
>>>According to Lewis: "Because _Activities_ is read by many of the major
>>>
>>>Jewish and pro-Israel organizational players, _Activities_ ensures
>>>that there is a cognizance of the activities of the anti-Israel forces
>>>both in Washington and the grassroots and the issues on which they are
>>>focusing.
>>>
>>>Ultimately, of all the information disseminated from AIPAC,
>>>_Activities_ may well be the most eagerly sought, read and used to
>>>good advantage."
>>>
>>>One of the ways that this information was "used to good advantage" was
>>>
>>>in a 1990 American Jewish Congress fund-raising letter. It accused
>>>Executive Director James Zogby of the Arab American Institute of "the
>>>new anti-Semitism" (criticism of Israeli policies) and compared him
>>>with white supremacist David Duke and black nationalist Rev. Louis
>>>Farrakhan because Zogby criticized pro-Israel political action
>>>committees. No sources were given in the letter for quotations
>>>attributed to Zogby.
>>>
>>>When Zogby protested, AJC Executive Director Henry Siegman, whose name
>>>
>>>appeared at the bottom of the letter, denied prior knowledge of the
>>>mailing and blamed overzealous fund-raisers for its wording.
>>>_Washington Post_ columnist Richard Cohen wrote in an Oct. 3, 1990,
>>>column, "There's no doubt in my mind that the American Jewish
>>>Congress' letter writers went off half-cocked -- and without Siegman's
>>>knowledge. "It might surprise Cohen to know that Siegman, not AJC's
>>>fund-raisers, is one of the select recipients of AIPAC's _Activities_,
>>>from which every one of the quotes attributed to Zogby had been taken.
>>>
>>>Nor, after publication of Cohen's article, was it some unnamed "letter
>>>
>>>writer" but Siegman, personally, who contacted AIPAC's Michael Lewis
>>>for help in trying to build a case that Zogby was indeed an
>>>"anti-Semite."  Lewis faxed an AIPAC "living memo" of Zogby's
>>>statements, actions and affiliations to Siegman in New York.
>>>
>>>"I hope this information is of help," Lewis wrote on the cover sheet. 
>>>
>>>"The compilation as such should not be sent to Richard Cohen, and the 
>>>information should not be attributed to AIPAC."
>>>
>>>Writing in the _Village Voice_ on Jan. 22, 1991, Nat Hentoff argued
>>>that the AJC letter had "resurrected the spirit of Joe McCarthy."
>>>Hentoff also quoted Zogby's reaction to his own personal ordeal with
>>>neo-McCarthyism: 
>>>
>>>"When the ADL and AIPAC falsely and maliciously labeled me a
>>>'terrorist member of the PLO' speaking engagements were canceled,
>>>political candidates refused to associate with me, and my family and I
>>>were harassed and threatened with violence. Now, I know that ADL and
>>>AIPAC were not involved in the harassment or the violence -- but
>>>vilification and scurrilous attacks of the sort they indulged in can
>>>create the atmosphere in which ugly actions can occur."
>>>
>>>Siegman never apologized to Zogby for the actions of his "overzealous 
>>>fund-raisers."
>>>
>>>
>>> Disingenuous Disclaiming
>>>
>>>
>>>AIPAC is careful never to advocate specific actions to be taken
>>>against individuals and organizations named in _Activities_. In fact,
>>>it puts on the front cover of every edition the disingenuous
>>>disclaimer that "the inclusion of material in _Activities_ implies
>>>neither endorsement nor criticism of any group."  By distributing
>>>derogatory allegations about critics of Israel, however, AIPAC in
>>>effect tells pro-Israel activists, "Here are the people who are your
>>>enemies -- now go out and do something about it!"
>>>
>>>AIPAC's Policy Analysis section works closely with its college liaison
>>>department, the Political Leadership Development Program (PLDP). When
>>>AIPAC is informed of an upcoming speech by an "anti-Israel"
>>>personality, summaries of that person's standard arguments,
>>>question-and-answer style, and a list of possibly damaging quotations
>>>are sent to pro-Israel activists at the host institution, who also are
>>>asked to send tapes or accounts of the speech back to AIPAC. AIPAC
>>>also draws up questions for "plants" in the audience, and suggests
>>>other strategies suited to the particular venue.
>>>
>>>Typical of this kind of preparation was a confidential memo sent in
>>>1985 to AIPAC opposition researcher Anna Gottlieb by AIPAC regional
>>>director Murray Wood in Los Angeles. For an October 20th "Conference
>>>on Peace With Justice in the Middle East" at Mira Costa College,
>>>arrangements were made to "monitor the conference...have a corps of
>>>'our' people in the audience, well-trained and briefed...call a
>>>meeting with the local ADL and American Jewish Committee directors to
>>>develop a coordinated strategy...(and provide) background material" on
>>>the speakers.
>>>
>>>Human rights activist Noam Chomsky, a linguistics professor at 
>>>Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described the ADL file compiled
>>>on him: "It's just like an FBI file -- 150 pages of material, clips
>>>from newspapers and inter-office memos saying I was going to show up
>>>at this or that place, surveillance of talks I have given,
>>>characterization of what was said in the talks [often falsified]. All
>>>this material goes into a central source. Then when I give a talk
>>>somewhere, my file will be given to the appropriate local group, who
>>>will be able to dig through it, and come up with statements that I
>>>allegedly made at some time during the last 15 years to be publicized
>>>in unsigned pamphlets."
>>>
>>>Under lock and key in the office of Michael Lewis are literally
>>>hundreds and hundreds of such files on people and organizations that
>>>AIPAC deems to be "anti-Israel."  Among politicians upon whom such
>>>files exist are former Bush administration White House Chief of Staff
>>>John Sununu, former Reagan administration secretaries of defense
>>>Caspar Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former President Jimmy Carter
>>>and former Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern, Senate
>>>Minority Leader Robert Dole, Republican Senate John Chafee, House
>>>Majority Whip David Bonior, and Democratic Representatives John
>>>Conyers, John Dingell, Mervyn Dymally, Mary Rose Oakar, Nick Joe
>>>Rahall, James Traficant and many others.
>>>
>>> The largest file that AIPAC keeps on any single person is that of 
>>>District of Columbia "Shadow Senator" Jesse Jackson. While AIPAC's 
>>>surveillance and monitoring is mostly confined to an individual's 
>>>professional statements and activities, in Jackson's case, AIPAC was
>>>caught venturing into personal innuendo. As revealed by CBS' "60
>>>Minutes," an internal AIPAC memorandum dated Nov. 3, 1987 proposed
>>>generating media interest in allegations that Jackson had extramarital
>>>affairs.
>>>
>>>AIPAC also maintains files on what it characterizes as "anti-Israel" 
>>>journalists to stifle open media discussion on the Middle East. AIPAC 
>>>maintains files on Peter Jennings, Mike Wallace, Patrick Buchanan,
>>>Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, Thomas Friedman, Anthony Lewis,
>>>Richard Cohen, Carl Rowan, Alexander Cockburn and Joseph Sobran, among
>>>others.
>>>
>>>Reminiscent of Senator Joe McCarthy's scouring of Hollywood for 
>>>"communists," and their "fellow travelers" in the entertainment
>>>industry, AIPAC also has opened files on Ed Asner, Woody Allen,
>>>Richard Dreyfus, Vanessa Redgrave, Casey Kasem, Mike Farrell, Barbra
>>>Streisand, Michael Moore, Peter Yarrow, and many more.
>>>
>>> 
>>>"Have You No Shame?"
>>>
>>>
>>> In the spring of 1954, a nationwide audience watching the televised
>>>Army-McCarthy hearings sat transfixed as Boston attorney Joseph Welch
>>>stood to demand of Senator McCarthy, "Sir, have you no shame?"  Only
>>>after that dramatic confrontation, pictured over and over as
>>>intimidated journalists and politicians finally dared to speak out,
>>>did the shadow of "McCarthyism" slowly recede from American public
>>>life.
>>> 
>>>Today, some Jewish organizations finally are asking that same question
>>>of the Israel lobby. Two years ago, several local Jewish community
>>>relations organizations issued a statement condemning an attack by the
>>>hard-line Americans For A Safe Israel (AFSI) against the New Israel
>>>Fund (NIF).
>>> 
>>>This local initiative inspired a resolution adopted nationally by the
>>>National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC)
>>>condemning the "McCarthy-like" tactics used by some Jewish
>>>organizations. The resolution proposed guidelines for dealing with
>>>"the right of dissent" on Israeli policies, and emphasized the
>>>importance of open and thoughtful exchange in an atmosphere of "mutual
>>>tolerance and civility."  However, while NJCRAC denounced such fringe
>>>groups as AFSI, it failed to address the problem of neo-McCarthyism
>>>within more mainstream Jewish organizations.
>>>
>>>AIPAC and ADL must be held accountable by the organized American
>>>Jewish community for their blacklisting and smear tactics and for the
>>>climate of hatred and repression they have created. Let American
>>>Jewish organizations demand that AIPAC stop circulation of its
>>>blacklists and destroy the files it keeps on the "enemies of Israel."
>>>
>>>Only if Americans refuse to be silenced by false charges of hatred and
>>>racism can there be free and open debate on U.S. policy in the Middle
>>>East.  
>>>
>>>And only through such debate will the U.S. be able to contribute
>>>toward a lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict.
>>>
>>>[Gregory D. Slabodkin, a free-lance writer in Washington, DC, was an
>>>opposition researcher for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee
>>>(AIPAC) in 1990 and 1991.]
>>>
>>>Call the American Educational Trust TOLL-FREE at 1-800-368-5788 or
>>>write: American Educational Trust P.O. Box 53062 Washington, DC 20009
>>>
>>> NOTE: They may still be giving out free sample copies of _The
>>>Washington Report on Middle East Affairs_.  Ask for one!   * END
>>>
>>>
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On Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:34:30 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:48 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:28:08 -0400, The Truth of HateWatchWatch
>> wrote:
>
>>>McVay is just trying to make money off his people being killed in the holacaust.
>>>I think that is damnable, but jews seems to want to profit from the holacaust.
>
>>It seems that the despicable OyVay, the gas station attendant and Tax
>>Fraud, just does not like being exposed and investigated by the Tax
>>authorities in both canada and the USA!!!
>
>>On 28 Mar 1998 19:27:41 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay SOB)
>>wrote:
>
>>Feel free to forward your complaints also to Revenue Canada, either by
>>phone or E-mail.
>
>>Notice that the gas station employee McVay, his employment exposed in
>>an interview a week ago in local papers,  refuses to answer the
>>questions.
>
>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>>One must wonder whether he is so rejected by the Jews in B.C, that he
>>had to go to Edmonton to hold a meeting??
>
>>Or, could it be that in Alberta Canada, there are more thinking
>>people, who reject the garbage disseminated by OyVay and his gang??
>
>>Perhaps some of the others in North America intersted in discussing
>>the Holohoax will also respond.
>
>
>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )wrote:
>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>
>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>
>>>Nothing new here.
>
>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>> it is NOT!!!
>
>>>Definitely not a charity.
>
>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>Canada!!!
>
>They can be reached directly, for filing complaints, at:
>	Telephone to: 1-800-267-2384
>
>Also, you can E-mail complaints about Nizkor, to them, at:
>	http://www.rc.gc.ca/charities
>
>An alternative telephone number for fraud complaints is Special
>Investigations Revenue Canada at:
>	telephone # 204-983-1829
>
>
>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>> 
>
>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>> answer??
>
>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>
>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>
>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>
>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>> who can be reached at:
>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>
>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>
>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca, or
>>>	 http://www.rc.gc.ca
>
>>>	 In Message, put first line of message as: 
>>>	ATTENTION SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>>>             or telephone to: 204-983-1829
>
>>>	They are waiting for your complaints
>
>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>
>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>
>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>
>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>
>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>
>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the   letters?
>
>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>
>
>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>
>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>
>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai Brith's butt.
>
>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>
>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>
>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>
>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>
>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>
>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>
>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>Canadian dollars. 
>
>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>
>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>> >OyVey???
>
>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>
>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>
>
>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>
>>>Check this out!
>
>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>letter just ask.
>
>
>> >Nizkor Funding
>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>
>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>
>>>  The League is working closely
>>>with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>incidents directly to the National Office."
>
>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>
>
>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>
>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>
>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>
>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>
>
>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>
>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>
>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>
>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>>>Get the text of American Dissident Voices broadcasts by e-mail! 
>
>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
>>>ADVlist@ListServe.com which contains the 
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>>> You may also get them from our FTP site at: ftp://natvan.com 
>
>
>>>Revenue Canada Taxation - Charities Division Ottawa, again today
>>>confirmed that there is no registration for Nizkor as a charity in
>>>Canada!!!
>
>>show us where Nizkor has ever claimed to have one.
>
>All you need do, is read above, or get your orderly to read for you.
>
>
>
>>Please print this form and send to: 
>
>>The Nizkor Project 
>>c/o 
>>The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
>>15 Hove Street 
>>Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 
>
>>Name:________________________________________ 
>>Street Address:________________________________________________ 
>>City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
>>E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
>>Amount Enclosed: $___________ 
>
>>Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of
>>B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the
>>cheque's memo section. 
>
>
>>Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt.
>>[#0235903-43-13] 
>
>
>>Attention:CHARITIES
>>also: SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS
>
>



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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:56:26 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:04:59 -0500, "Shabati..Zvi Äbuishneineh"
> wrote:
>
>>SJAFAR@newsnet., new wrote:
>>> 
>>> Investigators reportedly have opened several graves of Yemenite Jewish
>>> babies and found them to be empty - a discovery that might support
>>> claims that Yemenite children were taken from their parents for adoption
>>> decades ago.
>>> 
>>> For years, Yemenite activists have claimed hundreds of babies declared
>>> dead were actually given to adoptive parents of European descent. If the
>>> claims are true, it could further sour relations between Middle Eastern
>>> and European Jews in Israel.
>>> 
>>> The four graves at Tel Aviv's Givat Shaul cemetery were opened last
>>> Wednesday as part of an official investigation, with a rabbi and family
>>> members present.
>>> 
>>> Wooden signs over the empty graves bore the names Ruthie Babu, Ruthie
>>> Cohen, Reuven Rafaelo and Moshe Mishraki, Israel TV reported Saturday.
>>> All were hospitalized when only a few months old. Their parents never
>>> saw them again, nor did they see a body or a death certificate.
>>> 
>>> ``Now there is no doubt that this was an affair of planned fraud in
>>> which funerals were staged and evidence was falsified,'' said Ora
>>> Shifris, a spokesman for the Yemenite families.
>>> 
>>> Hundreds of children disappeared during the mass immigration of Yemenite
>>> Jews in the early 1950s, when the immigrants were housed in tent camps.
>>> Camp officials and medical staff denied any wrongdoing, saying there was
>>> chaos in the camps, where many babies were sickly and died.
>>> 
>>> Two other commissions have investigated the affair, but many families
>>> dismissed their inconclusive findings.
>>> 
>>> In 1994, radical Yemenite activist Uzi Meshulam and a group of armed
>>> followers barricaded themselves in a house in Tel Aviv for six weeks to
>>> press demands for a new inquiry. One of the followers was killed in a
>>> shootout with police, and Meshulam is serving a 6  1/2-year prison term.
>>> But the confrontation created a furor that led to the current
>>> commission, which has subpoena powers.
>>> 
>>> Israel's 4.7 million Jews are roughly evenly divided between those of
>>> Middle Eastern and European descent, but the latter have always been
>>> dominant economically and socially.
>>
>>
>>Mr. Jafar.
>>1. The number of children exceeded the thousands, not hundreds.
>>2. Most of the low Paige and menial jobs are given to Arab Jews.
>>3. For economic reasons, most of the prostitutes in Israel are underage
>>Yemenites (and now Russian) Jewish little girls.
>>4. Rejecting the blood of the African Jews (the Falasha) is just on of
>>the facet of the fascist Zionist life. The Falasha Jews are prohibited
>>from performing marriages and funeral. Only Aryan Jews are allowed to do
>>that besides some Arab Jews who had to (convert) to Judaism, the Aryan
>>style.



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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:14:42 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On Sat, 12 Sep 1998 15:19:23 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:06:54 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>PAWLIKOWSKI wrote:
>>> 
>>> dddddddddddddd
>>> 
>>> Grigori, if you do not know or do not believe me, please read the
>>> monograph about Lazar Kaganowich by his American cousin titled The Wolf
>>> of the Kremlin.  Stven eventually was given permission by Brezhnev to
>>> visit his uncle in Moscow.  Look in Stevens book at the photo of his
>>> aunt Rosa and unkle Mikhail Kaganovich who was shot with the blessing of
>>> Lazar and Rosa for treason which was sympathy for Israel.
>>> 
>>> Mikhail learned zionsim on his trip in USA during WW II and he was
>>> commissar of Soviet aviation.
>>> 
>>> Pawlikowski deserves from you apology, but I doubut he will get it.
>>> 
>>> Some Jews are simply michigene
>>> ---------
>>> RAgan
>>> 
>>> Grigori Khaskin wrote:
>>> >
>>> > PAWLIKOWSKI (polhistsoc@earthlink.net) wrote:
>>> >
>>> > : Klan of Kaganoviches, Soviet Jews who ran USSR at that time (Rosa
>>> > : Kaganowich, M.D. being at that time Stalins wife) felt scorned by
>>> > : Israel.  Hell know no furry as the woman scorned!
>>> >
>>> > What interesting here, that all it is lie, but the name of Lazar
>>> > Kaganovich.
>>> >
>>> > #1. Kaganovich had no "clan", especially one who was running USSR.
>>> >
>>> > Better you, patologycal judofob, invent something new, remotely close to
>>> > reality, like "Georgian Djugashvili when studied in christian seminary was
>>> > forcefullyu converted to Judaizm and than under name Stalin
>>> > successfully tried to kill all polish christians worldwide".
>>> >
>>> > #2. STalin never had a wife with the name "Rosa", not talking about Rosa
>>> > Kaganovich, M.D. because:
>>> >
>>> > #3. Lazar Kaganovich NEVER have a sister Rosa Kaganovich.
>>> >
>>> > That lies you are repeating was put in circulation with Russian
>>> > antisemitic blacj hundred organization "Pamiat" in the end of 80th and
>>> > was exposed countless times as an open lie in Russian periodicals.
>>> >
>>> > #4. Affiliation of patologycal commie Kaganovich and Israel came from the
>>> > same garbage dumpster.
>>> >
>>> > #5. Stalin with the help of his henchmen Beria at the time was preparing
>>> > the wholesale deportation Jews to death camps in Siberia, and started to
>>> > unfold so-called "Case of Jewish doctors", implicating all Jewish M.D. who
>>> > worked in Kremlin hospital killing of communist party leaders admitted to
>>> > hospital. It had to become a spark to deportation. Thanx G-d the bastard
>>> > died himself on Purim night and deportation was aborted.
>>> >
>>> > Does it look, like that scenario was running by a jews? Dear
>>> > Padlikowsky? Maybe unexisted M.D. Kaganovich tried to get rid of worldwide
>>> > known M.D. in Moscow?
>>> >
>>> > You are laughable, moron.
>>> >
>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>> >
>>> > G.K.
>>> >
>>> > : USSR hoped to control Arab oilpipes then going  through Israel.
>>> >
>>> > Pipelines THROUGH Israel? Pumping oil there in 1940th? Time to call Mr.
>>> > Padlikowsky a veterinarian, and teacher in geography.
>>> >
>>> > : USSR staged Kielce and other pogroms to stock Palestine with Soviet
>>> > : Jews  but these indoctrinated Jews did not bother with USSR once in
>>> > : Israel.
>>> >
>>> > No, no. Glory of Kielce is a badge of honor on your antisemitic mighty
>>> > chest.
>>> >
>>> > But what pogrom in Kielce has in common with stocking of Palestine with
>>> > SOVIET jews? Especially when all info about Kielce was immediately
>>> > SUPPRESSED for ten's of years?
>>> >
>>> > Why it was almost IMPOSSIBLE to get from Russia to Israel all that years??
>>> > And it was a multitude of jews who was refused an exit visas and instead
>>> > of Near East were sent to Far North?
>>> >
>>> > : Elementary HErmie HH
>>> > : ---------
>>> > : Pawlikowski
>>> >
>>> > Unfortunately, that tipe of lies almost never elementary. despite such a
>>> > lies have been produced by thou who have one convolution in the brain, and
>>> > even this one was straiten by Waffen SS side-cap. Unfortunately a rebuke
>>> > required and time had been waisted for such an imbecile.
>>> >
>>> > With utmost sincerity,
>>> >
>>> > G.K.
>>
>>
>>It seems that the Russian JEWs, and their lackeys have already forgotten
>>who established the Soviet secret Police, forerunners of the dreaded KGB
>>- it was that great JEW Felix DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>
>>It was the secret police that engaged in genocide - first on the
>>Russians, then the more than 30 million Ukrainians murdered by the JEW
>>Kommissars!!!
>>
>>How many tens of millions bodies does it take to REMEMBER - that it was
>>the SOVIET JEWS who first engaged in genocide?
sven 88


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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:15:56 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Apr 1998 16:41:38 -0400, "Richard G. Philllips"
> wrote:
>>Scoop wrote:
>>> Quoth Richard G. Philllips:
>>> : Scoop wrote:
>
>>> : > Dick, since you are alleging that Jews have routinely engaged in ritual
>>> : > murder throughout our long history, it is incumbent upon you to provide
>>> : > proof of your assertion.
>>===========================================
>>Phillips
>>I have never alleged and I do not believe that Jews ROUTINELY commit
>>ritual murder. I am inclined to believe that it has happened but is a
>>rare thing and certainly not indulged in by the generality of Jews.
>
>>After reading covington's original post about the ocurrences in Chicago
>>in 1955,
>>I did no more than say that the circumstances, taken as a whole, were
>>highly suggestive of ritual murder.
>>===========================================
>>Phillips (previous)
>
>>> : It is well known that liberals and Jews have a penchant for hyperbole of
>>> : that sort. It reveals far more about the author than it does about the
>>> : person referred to.
>>===================================================
>>> 
>>> All that it reveals about me is my opinion that you're a spineless, lying
>>> buffoon.
>>===========================================
>>PHillips
>>
>>See what I mean?
>>=====================
>Notice that the Christkillers refuse to discuss the issue, namely how
>many of them indulge in Jewish Ritual Murder, of children???



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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:19:03 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sat, 09 May 1998 04:22:46 GMT, white_guy88@hotmail.com (Lenny)
>wrote:
>>On Fri, 8 May 1998 18:51:08 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
>> wrote:
>>>On Mon, 4 May 1998, irgun1943 wrote:
>>
>>>> Dear Sir,
>>>>      I sympathize with people being forced into prostitution.
>>>>      However, your intent is to promote hatred of israel and the Jewish
>>>>      people.
>>>>      No one wants your women. No one needs your women.
>>>>      They come illegally into Israel.
>>>>       Why not whore for the Germans? Ukrainians are good at that.
>>>>                                            irgun43
>
>>>   Despite your professed sympathies, the rest of your statements don't
>>> stand scrutiny. These women are imported illegaly into Israel because
>>> there is obviously a demand, market, there for young slavic shikse.
>>> There would not be the trafficking, if there were no demand. 
>
>>> "They come illegally ..."  Well it appears that many arrive quite legally
>>> on promises/expectations of other work. Others are brought in, imported,
>>> illegaly.
>
>>> Israel is a country in which there are no laws prohibiting the buying
>>> and selling of human beings as merchandise.
>>> Also prostitution is legal in Israel,  and although brothels are 
>>> illegal, this law seems to be more honoured in the breach. 
>>> The article did not single out Israel, however whereas in other countries
>>> these things are at least illegal, that doesn't appear to be the case
>>> in Israel. 
>>> Your last sentence is definitely a statement intended to promote hatred.
>
>> The jews have a long history in slave trading. They financed and
>>promoted the slavery of the negroes, which is now resulting in the
>>racial mess we now have in America. *( For info on the jewish
>>involvement in the negro slave trade go to the following web site
>>http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl/Jews_and_Slavery.html
>> Now the jews are turning their hooked noses toward the white Eastern
>>European women, it is no wonder , these parasites of humanity abused
>>these people under communism now they abuse them sexually. It is the
>>nature of these people to destroy, like a parasite destroys it's host.
>> May the white people of the world wake up before it's too late!
> 



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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:02:29 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:28:24 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:
>
>>If there were so many documented JEWS in the German military, one MUST
>>question how many may have died in WWII!!!
>>
>>It seems that the number keeps on increasing, by mythical magic, just
>>as each new lawsuit demanding reparations is filed!!!
>>
>>In other words, soon the number of damn JEW claimants for alleged
>>demise in WWII will exceed the populations of all the countries
>>involved.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 02:43:34 GMT, vagabond@idirect.com (William
>>Markiewicz) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>For a fair approximation of the number of victims, the extent of
>>>Jewish life in pre-war Europe must be looked at.  See the
>>>Communication Page, August 97 issue 
>>>http://web.idirect.com/~vagabond
>>
>>sperati wrote:
>>> 
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:26:29 GMT
>>> From: stefan lemieszewski 
>>> Subject: Jews Who Wore Nazi Uniforms
>>> 
>>> From recent postings and reports in the media, readers have noticed
>>> that some ethnic groups appear to be singled out while others are
>>> ignored when it comes to hunting for suspected Nazi war criminals. One
>>> group that is omitted or rarely mentioned is the Jews.
>>> 
>>> The following makes reference to an article in The Telegraph in England
>>> titled "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms." If someone has access I would
>>> appreciate getting a copy of the article in its entirety. I would like
>>> to forward it to Sol Littman and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
>>> >>Stefan Lemieszewski
>>> 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> North Shore News
>>> February 2, 1997
>>> 
>>> Insights from abroad
>>> Doug Collins
>>> 
>>> TRAVELLING has its uses. You get all kinds of interesting information
>>> that is ignored in Canada.
>>> 
>>> When I was in England the papers were filled with news about Jews who
>>> served in Hiler's forces as high ranking officers.
>>> 
>>> The story broke in The Telegraph, which had a headline across two pages
>>> about "Jews who wore Nazi uniforms."
>>> 
>>> There were many of them. They included two field marshals, one of whom
>>> was Erhard Milch, who "masterminded German aircraft production and
>>> transformed the Luftwaffe." His father was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> At least 77 senior officers were Jewish, or of "mixed Jewish race or
>>> married to Jews."  They included eight lieutenant generals, five major
>>> generals, and 23 colonels.
>>> 
>>> Seventeen "Jews in Nazi uniform" were awarded the Knights Cross,
>>> Germany's highest military honor. In all probability there were many
>>> more. The research is continuing.
>>> 
>>> Some of the stories are bizarre. One Jew got to German-occupied France
>>> in 1940 and later joined the Waffen SS under a new name. He is still
>>> alive.
>>> 
>>> Another visited the Sachsenhausen concentration camp to visit his
>>> father, "wearing the Iron Cross he had earned in battle."
>>> 
>>> Another lost his mother in Auschwitz. He and others are now asking
>>> whether they were "victims or perpetrators."
>>> 
>>> A Jewish film-maker and holder of the Iron Cross First Class worked in
>>> the German propaganda office in Paris in 1941.
>>> 
>>> The one who discovered all this was Bryan Rigg, a Texan studying at
>>> Cambridge University. Some of his remote forebears were German Jews and
>>> he became interested in their story. So he did a year-long investigation
>>> and stumbled across this material, accumulating 30,000 supporting
>>> documents in the process.
>>> 
>>> The British press got excited over it because everyone had assumed that
>>> Jews were totally unacceptable in Hitler's Germany; also that no Jew
>>> could ever have fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> A leading historian at Cambridge has been quoted as saying, "It makes
>>> the reality of the Nazi state more complicated."
>>> 
>>> He stated, too, that Rigg's research would "inform both the argument
>>> about Hitler's role in shaping the holocaust and the debate about
>>> ant-semitism among ordinary Germans."
>>> 
>>> Precisely. It worries holocaust enthusiasts that Rigg's research may be
>>> used by "deniers." But most "deniers" do not deny that large numbers of
>>> Jews met their end in the camps and elsewhere. What they question is
>>> what they see as the greatly inflated six million story.
>>> 
>>> British historian David Irving has gone further. He made himself into an
>>> international pariah by offering a financial reward for anyone who can
>>> produce documentary proof that Hitler ordered the extermination of the
>>> Jews. Whatever the truth, no one has yet collected.
>>> 
>>> Rigg turned up some fascinating tidbits. Former German Chancellor Helmut
>>> Schmidt was an officer in the Luffftwaffe even though his grandfather
>>> was a Jew.
>>> 
>>> Schmidt kept his background secret. And fought for Hitler.
>>> 
>>> As the Telegraph articles explained, the Nazi race laws defined as a
>>> full Jew anyone with three Jewish grandparents. Those with two or even
>>> one were seen as "mixed race" and were  also denied full citizenship.
>>> 
>>> But there were all kinds of contradictions and exceptions. Herman
>>> Goering once stated, for instance, that he would decide who was Jewish.
>>> 
>>> As Rigg showed, Hitler himself signed papers decreeing that many whom he
>>> knew had Jewish ancestors were of "Aryan descent." Milch, sentenced to a
>>> term of imprisonment at Nuremberg, was one of them.
>>> 
>>> A Jewish Nazi war criminal?
>>> 
>>> After the conquest of Poland the Americans even asked for, and obtained,
>>> the release of a rabbi who was leader of the ultra-orthodox Lubavitcher
>>> Jews in Warsaw. It was done on instructions from Admiral Wilhelm
>>> Canaris, the head of military intelligence who was executed in 1944 for
>>> plotting against Hitler.
>>> 
>>> The rabbi and a group of his followers were sent to the U.S. via Latvia,
>>> and the man in charge of the operation was Lt. Col. Bloch, himself a Jew
>>> and an Iron Cross holder. Late in the war, though, Heinrich Himmler saw
>>> to it that he was discharged from the army.
>>> 
>>> All of which is very strange. And just as strange is that I have been
>>> able to find no mention of it in our media. Not even in Time magazine. I
>>> wonder why?
>>> 
>>> ---The North Shore News believes strongly in freedom of speech and the
>>> right of all sides in a debate to be heard. The columnists published in
>>> the News present differing points of view, but those views are not
>>> necessarily those of the newspaper itself.
>>
>>
>>If Hitler and Goering allowed Jews in the military, one must then
>>definitely question the numbers being touted by Jew organisations, in
>>their attempts to extort money from non-Jews!!!



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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:30:14 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:08:03 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>
>>From swoj@no6million.com Sat Sep 13 17:14:03 1997
>>
>>Subject: [Fwd: 66 Questions and Answers on the Holocaust]
>>Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 18:14:03 -0500
>>
>>Laura is my kind of gal... she has many a valid point in the following
>>post.  In fact, 66 valid points.  Don't know why she
>>didn't post this to alt.revisionism, so I will do the honors..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Sixty-six Questions and Answers on the Holocaust
>>------------------------------------------------
>>
>>1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews? 
>>
>>None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual 
>>"survivors." This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have 
>>actually witnessed any "gassing." There are no contemporaneous documents 
>>or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of 
>>disposing of millions of corpses, no "human soap," no lamp shades made 
>>of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics. 
>>
>>2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the 
>>Nazis? 
>>
>>Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence 
>>demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated 
>>"six million" figure is an irresponsible exaggeration. 
>>
>>3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that "there were no 
>>extermination camps on German soil"? 
>>
>>Yes. The famous "Nazi hunter" wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24, 
>>1993. He also claimed that "gassings" of Jews took place only in Poland. 
>>
>>4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an 
>>extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an 
>>extermination camp? 
>>
>>After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through 
>>the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a "gas chamber." The 
>>mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a 
>>"gassing" camp. 
>>
>>5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used 
>>to kill people there? 
>>
>>No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified after the war, and 
>>a room was reconstructed to look like a large "gas chamber." After 
>>America's leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred 
>>Leuchter, examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities, 
>>he stated that it was an "absurdity" to claim that they were, or could 
>>have been, used for executions. 
>>
>>6. If Auschwitz wasn't a "death camp," what was its true purpose? 
>>It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing 
>>complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as 
>>a workforce. 
>>
>>7. Who set up the first concentration camps? 
>>During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called 
>>"concentration camps" in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and 
>>children. Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as 
>>terrible as German concentration camps of World War II. 
>>
>>8. How did German concentration camps differ from American "relocation" 
>>camps in which Japanese-Americans were interned during WWII? 
>>
>>The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons on 
>>the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war 
>>effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the 
>>basis of race alone. 
>>
>>9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps? 
>>
>>It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were 
>>overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all 
>>suspected security risks -- not just Jews -- were in danger of 
>>internment. 
>>
>>10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as 
>>early as 1933? 
>>
>>In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an 
>>international boycott of German goods. 
>>
>>11. Did the Jews of the world "declare war on Germany"? 
>>
>>Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in 
>>the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced "Judea 
>>Declares War on Germany." 
>>
>>12. Was this before or after the "death camp" stories began? 
>>
>>This was years before the "death camp" stories, which began in 
>>1941-1942. 
>>
>>13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass 
>>civilian bombing? 
>>
>>Britain -- on May 11, 1940. 
>>
>>14. How many "gas chambers" to kill people were there at Auschwitz? 
>>None. 
>>
>>15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German 
>>control during the war? 
>>
>>Fewer than six million. 
>>
>>16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what 
>>happened to them? 
>>
>>After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of 
>>thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all 
>>causes during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United 
>>States, and other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war. 
>>
>>17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet 
>>Union? 
>>
>>More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in 
>>1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control. 
>>
>>18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting 
>>them outside of German reach? 
>>
>>Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR). 
>>
>>19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant, 
>>Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was? 
>>
>>He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators 
>>later admitted. 
>>
>>20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to 
>>torture German prisoners in order to exact "confessions" for use at the 
>>trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere? 
>>
>>Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent "evidence" for 
>>the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar "war crimes" trials. 
>>
>>21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today? 
>>
>>It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular 
>>religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders. 
>>It is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to 
>>justify US aid to Israel. 
>>
>>22. How does it benefit the State of Israel? 
>>
>>It justifies the billions of dollars in "reparations" Germany has paid 
>>to Israel and many individual "survivors." It is used by the 
>>Zionist/Israeli lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in 
>>the Middle East, and to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling 
>>billions of dollars per year. 
>>
>>23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen? 
>>
>>The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of Jews 
>>as a holy and eternally persecuted "Chosen People." 
>>
>>24. How did it benefit the Communists? 
>>
>>It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before, 
>>during and after the Second World War. 
>>
>>25. How does it benefit Britain? 
>>
>>In much the same way it benefitted the Soviet Union. 
>>
>>26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of 
>>Jews? 
>>
>>No. 
>>
>>27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps? 
>>Hydrocyanic gas from "Zyklon B," a commercial pesticide that was widely 
>>used throughout Europe. 
>>
>>28. For what purpose was "Zyklon B" manufactured? 
>>
>>It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill 
>>typhus-bearing lice and other pests. 
>>
>>29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination? 
>>
>>No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people, 
>>far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting 
>>fumigation agent. 
>>
>>30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with 
>>Zyklon B? 
>>
>>Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and 
>>dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are 
>>employed. 
>>
>>31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the "gas 
>>chambers" to remove bodies ten minutes after the victims had died. How 
>>do you explain this? 
>>
>>It can't be explained because had they done so they would have suffered 
>>the same fate as the "gassing" victims. 
>>
>>32. Hoess said in his "confession" that his men would smoke cigarettes 
>>as they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing. 
>>Isn't Zyklon B explosive? 
>>
>>Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false. 
>>
>>33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate 
>>Jews? 
>>
>>The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from a 
>>hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to "steam 
>>chambers," to "electrocution" machinery. Millions are alleged to have 
>>been killed in these ways. 
>>
>>34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from 
>>those who were scheduled to be killed? 
>>
>>It couldn't have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass 
>>gassings. The extermination stories originated as wartime atrocity 
>>propaganda. 
>>
>>35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why 
>>did they go along with the Germans without resisting? 
>>They didn't fight back because they did not believe there was any 
>>intention to kill them. 
>>
>>36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps? 
>>
>>Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000. 
>>
>>37. How did they die? 
>>
>>Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe 
>>during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention 
>>during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and 
>>rail transportation had been bombed out by the Allies.
>> 
>>38. What is typhus? 
>>
>>This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under 
>>unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and 
>>clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews 
>>might have survived the camps. 
>>
>>39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during 
>>the Second World War? 
>>
>>5,700,000. 
>>
>>40. Some Jewish "death camp" survivors say they saw bodies being dumped 
>>into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this? 
>>A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a 
>>substantial fuel shortage during the war. 
>>
>>41. Can bodies be burned in pits? 
>>
>>No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames 
>>in this manner because of lack of oxygen.
>> 
>>42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate 
>>bodies in about ten minutes. How long does it take to incinerate one 
>>body, according to professional crematory operators? 
>>
>>About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further 
>>processing afterwards. 
>>
>>43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens? 
>>To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had 
>>died. 
>>
>>44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the 
>>camps in German-controlled territory, what is the maximum number of 
>>corpses it would have been possible to incinerate during the entire 
>>period such crematories were in operation? 
>>
>>About 430,600. 
>>
>>45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time? 
>>No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per day). 
>>Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in 
>>heavy operation. 
>>
>>46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse? 
>>
>>After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full. 
>>
>>47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what 
>>happened to the ashes? 
>>
>>That remains to be "explained." Six million bodies would have produced 
>>many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash 
>>depositories. 
>>
>>48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken 
>>during the period when the "gas chambers" and crematoria were supposedly 
>>in full operation) show evidence of extermination? 
>>
>>No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the 
>>enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp, 
>>nor do they show evidence of the "open pits" in which bodies were 
>>allegedly burned. 
>>
>>49. What was the main provision of the German "Nuremberg Laws" of 1935? 
>>
>>They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews, 
>>similar to laws existing in Israel today. 
>>
>>50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws? 
>>
>>Years before Hitler's Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted 
>>laws prohibiting marriage between persons of different races. 
>>
>>51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to 
>>the "Holocaust" question? 
>>
>>An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in 
>>September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive 
>>packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified. 
>>
>>52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews 
>>were allegedly being exterminated? 
>>
>>If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most 
>>certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there 
>>was none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn't. 
>>
>>53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish 
>>extermination program? 
>>
>>None. 
>>
>>54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate? 
>>
>>As early as 1933, Hitler's government signed an agreement with the 
>>Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate from Germany to Palestine, taking 
>>large amounts of capital with them. 
>>
>>55. How did Anne Frank die?
>> 
>>After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the 
>>Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. The was 
>>not gassed. 
>>
>>56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine? 
>>
>>No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes that 
>>the famous diary is a literary hoax. 
>>
>>57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the 
>>liberated German camps showing piles of emaciated corpses? Are these 
>>faked? 
>>
>>Photographs can be faked, but it's far easier merely to add a misleading 
>>caption to a photo or commentary to a piece of footage. Piles of 
>>emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were "gassed" or 
>>deliberately starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of 
>>raging epidemics or of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps 
>>toward the end of the war. 
>>
>>58. Who originated the term "genocide"? 
>>
>>Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944. 
>>
>>59. Are films such as "Schindler's List" or "The Winds of War" 
>>documentaries? 
>>
>>No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history. 
>>Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical 
>>representations.
>> 
>>60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the 
>>standard "Holocaust" story? 
>>
>>Dozens. More are in production.
>> 
>>61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered 
>>$50,000 to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
>> 
>>No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was 
>>sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who 
>>claimed that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business 
>>to suffer, and represented "injurious denial of established fact." 
>>
>>62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story 
>>are merely anti-Semitic or neo-Nazi? 
>>
>>This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest 
>>arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all 
>>persuasions and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There 
>>is no correlation between "Holocaust" refutation and anti-Semitism or
>>"neo-Naziism".
>>
>>63. What has happened to "revisionist" historians who have challenged 
>>the Holocaust story? 
>>
>>They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions, 
>>loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence. 
>>
>>64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for 
>>its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of speech and academic 
>>freedom?
>> 
>>The IHR had been bombed three times, and was completely destroyed on 
>>July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by 
>>telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been 
>>overwhelmingly hostile. 
>>
>>65. Why is there so little publicity for the revisionist view? 
>>Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any 
>>in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story. 
>>
>>66. Where can I get more information about the "other side" of the 
>>Holocaust story, as well as facts concerning other aspects of World War 
>>II historical revisionism? 
>>
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On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:47:49 GMT, sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:
>
>>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>>
>>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>>
>>
>>>Clancy wrote:
>>
>>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>>
>>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>>
>>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>>
>>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>>
>>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>>> the murderer).
>>
>>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>>> sentiment.
>>
>>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
>> 
>>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>>
>>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
>> 
>>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>>
>>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>>
>>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
>> 
>>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>>> Police.
>>
>>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>>> peasants in Spain.
>> 
>>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>>
>>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>>
>>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
>> 
>>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>>> Meadow).
>>
>>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>>> Julius Rosenwald.
>> 
>>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>>
>>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
>> 
>>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
>> 
>>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>>> member of the Central Committee.
>>
>>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
>> 
>>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
>> 
>>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
>> 
>>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
>> 
>>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
>> 
>>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
>> 
>>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
>> 
>>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>>> LEON KASMAN,
>> 
>>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
>> 
>>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
>> 
>>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>>> raised.
>> 
>>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
>> 
>>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
>> 
>>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
>> 
>>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
>> 
>>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>>> 1992).
>> 
>>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
>> 
>>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
>> 
>>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
>> 
>>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
>> 
>>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
>> 
>>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>>      world-wide social revolution."
>> 
>>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
>> 
>>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
>> 
>>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
>> 
>>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
>> 
>>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
>> 
>>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
>> 
>>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
>> 
>>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>>> 414 New York (1937):
>> 
>>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
>> 
>>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
>> 
>>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>>      Judaism."
>> 
>>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>>
>>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>>
>>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
>> 
>>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
>> 
>>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
>> 
>>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>>      executioners."
>>
>>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>>
>>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
>> 
>>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
>> 
>>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>>> Jewesses.
>>
>>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
>> 
>>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>>> people."
>>
>>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
>> 
>>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
>> 
>>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
>> 
>>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
>> 
>>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
>> 
>>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
>> 
>>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>>
>>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>>> government-funded."
>>
>>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
>> 
>>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
>> 
>>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).



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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:57:56 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:50:06 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On 20 Oct 1998 14:46:50 GMT, "firefly" 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>THE CROSS IS NOBODY BUSSINESS< IT IS ON  POLAND LAND
>>>POLAND HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT WHAT THEY WANT  INSIDE
>>>IN THEIR COUNTRY.THIS IS INTERNAL AFFAIR   < IT IS NOT AOUR
>>>AFFAIR.COMPRENDE!!!!
>>
>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>>>
>>>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>>>By Sean Maguire
>>>>Sept. 14, 1998
>>>
>>>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>>>
>>>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>>>sensitive site. 
>>>
>>>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>>>groups. 
>>>
>>>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>>>
>>>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>>>site inevitable. 
>>>
>>>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>>>
>>>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>>>
>>>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>>>
>>>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>>>
>>>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>>>
>>>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>>>and nationalists. 
>>>
>>>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>>>forgotten. 
>>>
>>>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>>>be removed. 
>>>>
>>>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>>>
>>>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>>>
>>>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>>>the moment.'' 
>>>
>>>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>>>
>>>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>>>
>>>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>>>international funding, are on hold. 
>>>
>>>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>>>
>>>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>>>
>>>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>>>
>>>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>>>
>>>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>>>
>>>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>>>
>>>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>>>
>>>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>>>Jewish community.
>>



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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 00:22:12 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:04:43 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>
>>The article has more than enough active website addresses, that you
>>should have been able to read more useful material.
>>
>>By the way, why not comment on your ideas relevant to the subject
>>heading.
>>
>>
>>On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:56:12 +0000, philip de cadenet
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Roger,
>>>>In view of the constant reports by Interpol that the Russian JEW Mafia
>>>>is spreading its control around the world, combined with the strength of
>>>>the JEWS under communism, one wonders, is Russia now under the full
>>>>control of JEWS??
>>>>
>>>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>>>>       
>>>>       One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>>
>>>>       First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>>>>
>>>>       While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>Archives:         
>>>>         
>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>>>>         
>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>>>>
>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>Government."         
>>>>
>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>>>>
>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>>>>
>>>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>>>>
>>>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>>>>
>>>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>Gordon. 
>>>>
>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>were Jews. 
>>>>
>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>did not take kindly to it." 
>>>>
>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>>
>>>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>>>>
>>>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>4, 1919) 
>>>>       
>>>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>>
>>>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>>>>
>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>himself:
>>>>
>>>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>>
>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>>
>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>>>>
>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>Communist bosses.
>>>>  
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People 
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>>>                http://www.natvan.com
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>     Roger's Page  http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>>      Keep It White Because You Know It's Right!
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>You posted a ficticious e-mail address thereby defeating the object of
>>>your final sentence above!
>>>One does have to wonder how much credence you expect us, the readers of
>>>this newgroup, to give someone who does not print their real e-mail
>>>address.
>>>Nuff said.
>>>
>>>Philip de Cadenet / UK



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:40:26 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:27:07 GMT, kengoy88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>
>>>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>>>reconsidered by thinking readers.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
>>>	
>>>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>>>
>>>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>>>
>>>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>>>Archives:         
>>>        
>>>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>>>         
>>>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>>>
>>>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>>>       
>>>         
>>>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>>>Government."         
>>>
>>>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>>>
>>>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>>>
>>>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>>>
>>>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>>>
>>>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>>>Gordon. 
>>>
>>>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>>>were Jews. 
>>>
>>>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>>>did not take kindly to it." 
>>>
>>>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>>>
>>>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>>>
>>>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>>>4, 1919) 
>>>	
>>>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>>>
>>>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>>>
>>>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>>>himself:
>>>
>>>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>>>
>>>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>>>virtually untouched.
>>>
>>>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>>>
>>>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>>>Communist bosses.
>>> 
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Roger Hughes
>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Towards a New Consciousness; a New Order; a New People 
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>>>                http://www.natvan.com
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>     Roger's Page  http://www.usaor.net/users/ipm/
>>>>      Keep It White Because You Know It's Right!
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>Abusive emails will be posted to the Usenet and ridiculed.
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++



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On Sun, 01 Nov 1998 02:10:12 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:27:50 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 01 Oct 1997 11:12:03 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>>Grigori Khaskin wrote:
>>
>>>> : It seems that the Russian JEWs, and their lackeys have already forgotten
>>>> : who established the Soviet secret Police, forerunners of the dreaded KGB
>>>> : - it was that great JEW Felix DZERZHINSKI!!!
>>
>>>> Iron Felix was somehow 100% polish if you want to bring race
>>>> question to history following hitler writings, you stuck with that. And,
>>>> btw, Red Terror started, when CHEKA member jew Moses Uritsky was killed by
>>>> antibolshevik jew Leonid Kanegisser and jew Dora Kaplan (renamed later to
>>>> Fanni) tried to exterminate Lenin (she was killed by Russian Kremlin
>>>> comendant P.D.Mal`kov)
>>
>>>> : It was the secret police that engaged in genocide - first on the
>>>> : Russians, then the more than 30 million Ukrainians murdered by the JEW
>>>> : Kommissars!!!
>>
>>>> : How many tens of millions bodies does it take to REMEMBER - that it was
>>>> : the SOVIET JEWS who first engaged in genocide?
>>
>>>> Your pathetic lies do not cover the fact that revolution and whatever came
>>>> after it was made MOSTLY by russians with the help of course of all
>>>> brotherly nations - lituaninas, polish, georgian and as well jews. But
>>>> more than 3/4 of russian in the bolshevik gand (and Russian was making
>>>> less than 53% according to census in 1924) sound a little bit like
>>>> overrepresentation. And that is why you blame jews for own crimes and
>>>> terminal stupidity.
>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> G.K.
>>
>>>Glad to see that even a stupid Russian can sometimes tell the truth -
>>>ABOUT THE JEWS CONTROLLING THE FORMER SOVIET UNION!!!
>>
>>>I find it offensive that you wish to blame some Polish people, who were
>>>JEWS, for the fact that the former Soviet union regularly engaged in
>>>genocide.



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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:28:11 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>>Hitler's Jewish Army
>>>
>>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>>>speaking of World War Two.
>>>
>>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing what
>>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>>
>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>>'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf
>>>Hitler's knowledge and approval.
>>>
>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including
>>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to
>>>100,000 troops."
>>>
>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>>Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's
>>>Cross.
>>>
>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>>
>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish
>>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>>
>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew
>>>and who is an Aryan.''
>>>
>>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>>
>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>>
>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>>(kapos).
>>>
>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>
>>>Sources:
>>>
>>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>>
>>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>>
>>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.



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On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:54:23 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 05:38:17 GMT, nails@pacific.net.SPAMMERSDIE.sg
>(Ken!!!) wrote:
>>there are idiot jews and there are idiot anti-jews...
>>
>>what is scary is the number if idiots willing to listen to these 2
>>factions of idiots and promote violence...
>
>
>>On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:11:56 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>>Those who wish to support the Christkillers, the cursed JEWS, also
>>>wish to rewrite history.
>
>>>They do not want the present survivors around the world to remember
>>>that 100 million have been killed in the last 80 years by the JEW-led
>>>communists!! This is well documented in the recently released book in
>>>France.
>
>Quite apart from the more than 30 million people massacred by the
>JEW-led soviets in the 1930's in the Ukraine.


>From someone@somewhere.com Thu Nov 13 07:29:56 1997

Subject: OyVay Admits JEW COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!


The key reason OyVay and NAZIKOR/NIZKOR refuse to discuss the 66
Questions about the HOLOHOAX, is because they must hide the truth
about the more than 100 MILLIONS the JEW-led communists have murdered,
in less than 80 years!!!!


On 12 Nov 1997 01:51:13 GMT, rwhita8200@aol.com (RWhita8200) wrote:

>>Subject: COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>>From: alangrist@aol.com (ALAN GRIST)
>>Date: Mon, Nov 10, 1997 18:15 EST

>>French writers row over "communism killed l00m" claim
>>            FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN PARIS

>>A BOOK by a team of French historians,  described  as  the
>>first global accounting of the victims of communism, has
>>estimated that in this century Communist dictators, regimes
>>and  movements  have been responsible for the deaths of
>>up to 100 million people.

>> The 850-page Black Book of Communism - Crimes, Terror  
>>and  Repression,  by  11 senior French researchers and
>>published  to  coincide  with yesterday's 80th anniversary
>>of the Bolshevik Revolution, has triggered a fresh ideologi-
>>cal battle.

>>The writers have come up with  a  final  estimate  that
>>communism claimed about 65 million  lives  in  China,  20
>>million in the Soviet Union, two million in Cambodia, two
>>million in North Korea,  1.7 Million in Africa, one million
>>in  Vietnam,  one million in Eastern Europe and 150,000 in
>>South America. 

>>In a polemical introduction, Stephane Courtois, the chief
>>editor and co-ordinator of the project,  argued  that  mass 
>>murder and terror have been central characteristics of com-
>>munism. "The facts are stubborn," he writes. "They show that 
>>the Communist regimes committed crimes against   about  100  million
>>people, compared to about 25 million for the Nazis."   
>> Some of M Courtois's fellow authors  however, have taken
>>issue  both  with his  highly charged conclusions and with

>   But there's no MONEY in these victims of Communism, so who cares?
>
>Bob Whitaker


And do not ever FORGET, that the communists were mainly damn JEWS!!!!





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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:29:05 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Sep 1998 22:26:24 -0400, "Dan Parker"
> wrote:
>
>>Traffickers' New Cargo:
>>Naive Slavic Women
>>By MICHAEL SPECTER
>>
>>Ramle, Israel—Irina always assumed that her beauty would somehow rescue her
>>from the poverty and hopelessness of village life. A few months ago, after
>>answering a vague ad in a small Ukrainian newspaper, she slipped off a tour
>>boat when it put in at Haifa, hoping to make a bundle dancing naked on the
>>tops of tables.
>>
>>She was 21, self-assured and glad to be out of Ukraine. Israel offered a new
>>world, and for a week or two everything seemed possible. Then, one morning,
>>she was driven to a brothel, where her boss burned her passport before her
>>eyes.
>>
>>“I own you,” she recalled his saying. “You are my property, and you will
>>work until you earn your way out. Don’t try to leave. You have no papers and
>>you don’t speak Hebrew. You will be arrested and deported. Then we will get
>>you and bring you back.”
>>
>>It happens every single day. Not just in Israel, which has deported nearly
>>1,500 Russian and Ukrainian women like Irina in the past three years. But
>>throughout the world, where selling naive and desperate young women into
>>sexual bondage has become one of the fastest-growing criminal enterprises in
>>the robust global economy.
>>
>>The international bazaar for women is hardly new, of course. Asians have
>>been its basic commodity for decades. But economic hopelessness in the
>>Slavic world has opened what experts call the most lucrative market of all
>>to criminal gangs that have flourished since the fall of Communism: Eastern
>>European women with little to sustain them but their dreams. Pimps, law-
>>enforcement officials and relief groups all agree that Ukrainian and Russian
>>women are now the most valuable in the trade.
>>
>>Because their immigration is often illegal—and because some percentage of
>>the women choose to work as prostitutes—statistics are difficult to assess.
>>But the United Nations estimates that 4 million people throughout the world
>>are trafficked each year—forced through lies and coercion to work against
>>their will in many types of servitude. The International Organization for
>>Migration has said that as many as 500,000 women are annually trafficked
>>into Western Europe alone.
>>
>>Many end up like Irina. Stunned and outraged by the sudden order to
>>prostitute herself, she simply refused. She was beaten and raped before she
>>succumbed. Finally she got a break. The brothel was raided, and she was
>>brought here to Neve Tirtsa in Ramle, the only women’s prison in Israel.
>>Now, like hundreds of Ukrainian and Russian women with no documents or
>>obvious forgeries, she is waiting to be sent home.
>>
>>“I don’t think the man who ruined my life will even be fined,” she said
>>softly, slow tears filling her enormous green eyes. “You can call me a fool
>>for coming here. That’s my crime. I am stupid. A stupid girl from a little
>>village. But can people really buy and sell women and get away with it?
>>Sometimes I sit here and ask myself if that really happened to me, if it can
>>really happen at all.”
>>
>>Then, waving her arm toward the muddy prison yard, where Russian is spoken
>>more commonly than Hebrew, she whispered one last thought: “I’m not the only
>>one, you know. They have ruined us all.”
>>
>>Traffic Patterns: Russia and Ukraine Supply the Flesh
>>
>>Centered in Moscow and the Ukrainian capital, Kiev, the networks trafficking
>>women run east to Japan and Thailand, where thousands of young Slavic women
>>now work against their will as prostitutes, and west to the Adriatic Coast
>>and beyond. The routes are controlled by Russian crime gangs based in
>>Moscow. Even when they do not specifically move the women overseas, they
>>provide security, logistical support, liaison with brothel owners in many
>>countries and, usually, false documents.
>>
>>Women often start their hellish journey by choice. Seeking a better life,
>>they are lured by local advertisements for good jobs in foreign countries at
>>wages they could never imagine at home.
>>
>>In Ukraine alone, the number of women who leave is staggering. As many as
>>400,000 women under 30 have gone in the past decade, according to their
>>country’s interior ministry. The Thai Embassy in Moscow, which processes
>>visa applications from Russia and Ukraine, says it receives nearly 1,000
>>visa applications a day, most of these from women.
>>
>>Israel is a fairly typical destination. Prostitution is not illegal here,
>>although brothels are, and with 250,000 foreign male workers—most of whom
>>are single or here without their wives—the demand is great. Police officials
>>estimate that there are 25,000 paid sexual transactions every day. Brothels
>>are ubiquitous.
>>
>>None of the women seem to realize the risks they run until it is too late.
>>Once they cross the border their passports will be confiscated, their
>>freedoms curtailed and what little money they have taken from them at once.
>>
>>“You want to tell these kids that if something seems too good to be true it
>>usually is,” said Lyudmilla Biryuk, a Ukrainian psychologist who has
>>counseled women who have escaped or been released from bondage. “But you can
>>’t imagine what fear and real ignorance can do to a person.”
>>
>>The women are smuggled by car, bus, boat and plane. Handed off in the dead
>>of night, many are told they will pick oranges, work as dancers or as
>>waitresses. Others have decided to try their luck at prostitution, usually
>>for what they assume will be a few lucrative months. They have no idea of
>>the violence that awaits them.
>>
>>The efficient, economically brutal routine—whether here in Israel, or in one
>>of a dozen other countries—rarely varies. Women are held in apartments, bars
>>and makeshift brothels; there they service, by their own count, as many as
>>15 clients a day. Often they sleep in shifts, four to a bed. The best that
>>most hope for is to be deported after the police finally catch up with their
>>captors.
>>
>>Few ever testify. Those who do risk death. Last year in Istanbul, Turkey,
>>according to Ukrainian police investigators, two women were thrown to their
>>deaths from a balcony while six of their Russian friends watched.
>>
>>In Serbia, also last year, said a young Ukrainian woman who escaped in
>>October, a woman who refused to work as a prostitute was beheaded in public.
>>
>>In Milan, Italy, a week before Christmas, the police broke up a ring that
>>was holding auctions in which women abducted from the countries of the
>>former Soviet Union were put on blocks, partially naked, and sold at an
>>average price of just under $1,000.
>>
>>“This is happening wherever you look now,” said Michael Platzer, the Vienna,
>>Austria-based head of operations for the U.N.’s Center for International
>>Crime Prevention. “The Mafia is not stupid. There is less law enforcement
>>since the Soviet Union fell apart and more freedom of movement. The earnings
>>are incredible. The overhead is low—you don’t have to buy cars and guns.
>>Drugs you sell once and they are gone. Women can earn money for a long
>>time.”
>>
>>“Also,” he added, “the laws help the gangsters. Prostitution is semilegal in
>>many places and that makes enforcement tricky. In most cases punishment is
>>very light.”
>>
>>In some countries, Israel among them, there is not even a specific law
>>against the sale of human beings.
>>
>>Platzer said that although certainly “tens of thousands” of women were sold
>>into prostitution each year, he was uncomfortable with statistics since
>>nobody involved has any reason to tell the truth.
>>
>>“But if you want to use numbers,” he said, “think about this. Two hundred
>>million people are victims of contemporary forms of slavery. Most aren’t
>>prostitutes, of course, but children in sweatshops, domestic workers,
>>migrants. During four centuries, 12 million people were believed to be
>>involved in the slave trade between Africa and the New World. The 200
>>million—and many of course are women who are trafficked for sex—is a current
>>figure. It’s happening now. Today.”
>>
>>Distress Calls: Far-Flung Victims Provide Few Clues
>>
>>The distress call came from Donetsk, the bleak center of coal production in
>>southern Ukraine. A woman was screaming on the telephone line. Her sister
>>and a friend were prisoners in a bar somewhere near Rome. They spoke no
>>Italian and had no way out, but had managed, briefly, to get hold of a man’s
>>cell phone.
>>
>>“Do you have any idea where they are, exactly?” asked Olga Shved, who runs
>>La Strada in Kiev, Ukraine’s new center dedicated to fighting the
>>trafficking of women in Eastern Europe and the countries of the former
>>Soviet Union.
>>
>>The woman’s answer was no. Ms. Shved began searching for files and telephone
>>numbers of the local consul, the police, anybody who could help.
>>
>>“Do they know how far from Rome they are?” she asked, her voice tightening
>>with each word. “What about the name of the street or the bar? Anything will
>>help,” she said, jotting notes furiously as she spoke. “We can get the
>>police on this, but we need something. If they call back, tell them to give
>>us a clue. The street number. The number of a bus that runs past. One thing
>>is all we need.”
>>
>>Ms. Shved hung up and called officials at Ukraine’s Interior Ministry and
>>the Foreign Ministry. Her conversations were short, direct and obviously a
>>routine part of her job.
>>
>>That is because Ukraine—and to a lesser degree its Slavic neighbors Russia
>>and Belarus—has replaced Thailand and the Philippines as the epicenter of
>>the global business in trafficking women. The Ukrainian problem has been
>>worsened by a ravaged economy, an atrophied system of law enforcement, and
>>criminal gangs that grow more brazen each year. Young European women are in
>>demand, and Ukraine, a country of 51 million people, has a seemingly endless
>>supply. It is not that hard to see why.
>>
>>Neither Russia nor Ukraine reports accurate unemployment statistics. But
>>even partial numbers present a clear story of chaos and economic
>>dislocation. Federal employment statistics in Ukraine indicate that more
>>than two-thirds of the unemployed are women. The government also keeps
>>another statistic: employed but not working. Those are people who
>>technically have jobs, and can use company amenities like day-care centers
>>and hospitals. But they do not work or get paid. Three-quarters are women.
>>And of those who have lost their jobs since the Soviet Union dissolved in
>>1991, more than 80 percent are women.
>>
>>The average salary in Ukraine today is slightly less than $30 a month, but
>>it is half that in the small towns that criminal gangs favor for recruiting
>>women to work abroad. On average, there are 30 applicants for every job in
>>most Ukrainian cities. There is no real hope; but there is freedom.
>>
>>In that climate, looking for work in foreign countries has increasingly
>>become a matter of survival.
>>
>>“It’s no secret that the highest prices now go for the white women,” said
>>Marco Buffo, executive director of On the Road, an antitrafficking
>>organization in northern Italy. “They are the novelty item now. It used to
>>be Nigerians and Asians at the top of the market. Now it’s the Ukrainians.”
>>
>>Economics is not the only factor causing women to flee their homelands.
>>There is also social reality. For the first time, young women in Ukraine and
>>Russia have the right, the ability and the willpower to walk away from their
>>parents and their hometowns. Village life is disintegrating throughout much
>>of the former Soviet world, and youngsters are grabbing any chance they can
>>find to save themselves.
>>“After the wall fell down, the Ukrainian people tried to live in the new
>>circumstances,” said Ms. Shved. “It was very hard, and it gets no easier.
>>Girls now have few opportunities yet great freedom. They see ‘Pretty Woman,’
>>or a thousand movies and ads with the same point, that somebody who is rich
>>can save them. The glory and ease of wealth is almost the basic point of the
>>Western advertising that we see. Here the towns are dying. What jobs there
>>are go to men. So they leave.”
>>
>>First, however, they answer ads from employment agencies promising to find
>>them work in a foreign country. Here again, Russian crime gangs play a
>>central role. They often recruit people through seemingly innocuous “mail
>>order bride” meetings. Even when they do not, few such organizations can
>>operate without paying off one gang or another. Sometimes want ads are
>>almost honest, suggesting that the women can earn up to $1,000 a month as
>>“escorts” abroad. Often they are vague or blatantly untrue.
>>
>>Recruiting Methods: Ads Make Offers Too Good To Be True
>>
>>One typical ad used by traffickers in Kiev last year read: “Girls: Must be
>>single and very pretty. Young and tall. We invite you for work as models,
>>secretaries, dancers, choreographers, gymnasts. Housing is supplied. Foreign
>>posts available. Must apply in person.”
>>
>>One young woman who did, and made it back alive, described a harrowing
>>journey. “I met with these guys, and they asked if I would work at a strip
>>bar,” she said. “Why not, I thought. They said we would have to leave at
>>once. We went by car to the Slovak Republic where they grabbed my passport.
>>I think they got me new papers there, but threatened me if I spoke out. We
>>made it to Vienna, then to Turkey. I was kept in a bar and I was told I owed
>>$5,000 for my travel. I worked for three days, and on the fourth I was
>>arrested.”
>>
>>Lately, the ads have started to disappear from the main cities—where the
>>realities of such offers are known now. These days the appeals are made in
>>the provinces, where their success is undiminished.
>>
>>Most of the thousands of Ukrainian women who go abroad each year are illegal
>>immigrants who do not work in the sex business. Often they apply for a legal
>>visa—to dance, or work in a bar—and then stay after it expires.
>>
>>Many go to Turkey and Germany, where Russian crime groups are particularly
>>powerful. Israeli leaders say that Russian women—they tend to refer to all
>>women from the former Soviet Union as Russian—disappear off tour boats every
>>day. Officials in Italy estimate that at least 30,000 Ukrainian women are
>>employed illegally there now.
>>
>>Most are domestic workers, but a growing number are prostitutes, some of
>>them having been promised work as domestics only to find out their jobs were
>>a lie. Part of the problem became clear in a two-year study recently
>>concluded by the Washington-based nonprofit group Global Survival Network:
>>Police officials in many countries just don’t care.
>>
>>The network, after undercover interviews with gangsters, pimps and corrupt
>>officials, found that local police forces—often those best able to prevent
>>trafficking—are least interested in helping.
>>
>>Gillian Caldwell of Global Survival Network has been deeply involved in the
>>study. “In Tokyo,” she said, “a sympathetic senator arranged a meeting for
>>us with senior police officials to discuss the growing prevalence of
>>trafficking from Russia into Japan. The police insisted it wasn’t a problem,
>>and they didn’t even want the concrete information we could have provided.
>>That didn’t surprise local relief agencies, who cited instances in which
>>police had actually sold trafficked women back to the criminal networks
>>which had enslaved them.”
>>
>>Official Reactions: Best-Placed To Help, but Least Inclined
>>
>>Complacency among police agencies is not uncommon.
>>
>>“Women’s groups want to blow this all out of proportion,” said Gennadi
>>Lepenko, chief of Kiev’s branch of Interpol, the international police
>>agency. “Perhaps this was a problem a few years ago. But it’s under control
>>now.”
>>
>>That is not the view at Ukraine’s parliament—which is trying to pass new
>>laws to protect young women—or at the Interior Ministry.
>>“We have a very serious problem here, and we are simply not equipped to
>>solve it by ourselves,” said Mikhail Lebed, chief of criminal investigations
>>for the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. “It is a human tragedy, but also,
>>frankly, a national crisis. Gangsters make more from these women in a week
>>than we have in our law-enforcement budget for the whole year. To be honest,
>>unless we get some help we are not going to stop it.”
>>
>>But solutions will not be simple. Criminal gangs risk little by ferrying
>>women out of the country; indeed, many of the women go voluntarily. Laws are
>>vague, cooperation between countries rare and punishment of traffickers
>>almost nonexistent. Without work or much hope of a future at home, an eager
>>teen-ager will find it hard to believe that the promise of a job in Italy,
>>Turkey or Israel is almost certain to be worthless.
>>
>>“I answered an ad to be a waitress,” said Tamara, 19, a Ukrainian prostitute
>>in a massage parlor near Tel Aviv’s old Central Bus Station, a Russian-
>>language ghetto for the cheapest brothels. “I’m not sure I would go back now
>>if I could. What would I do there, stand on a bread line or work in a
>>factory for no wages?”
>>
>>Tamara, like all other such women interviewed for this article, asked that
>>her full name not be published. She has classic Slavic features, with long
>>blond hair and deep green eyes. She turned several potential customers away
>>so she could speak at length with a reporter. She was willing to talk as
>>long as her boss was out. She said she was not watched closely while she
>>remained within the garish confines of the “health club.”
>>
>>“I didn’t plan to do this,” she said, looking sourly at the rich red walls
>>and leopard prints around her. “They took my passport, so I don’t have much
>>choice. But they do give me money. And believe me, it’s better than anything
>>I could ever get at home.”
>>
>>Yitzhak Tyler, the chief of undercover activities for the Haifa police, is a
>>big, open-faced man who doesn’t mince words.
>>
>>“We got a hell of a problem on our hands,” he said. The port city of 200,000
>>has become the easiest entryway for women brought to Israel to work as
>>prostitutes—though by no means the only one. Sometimes they walk off tour
>>boats, but increasingly they come with forged documents that enable them to
>>live and work in Israel. These have often been bought or stolen from elderly
>>Jewish women in Russia or Ukraine.
>>
>>“This is a sophisticated, global operation,” Tyler said. “It’s evil, and it’
>>s successful because the money is so good. These men pay $500 to $1,000 for
>>a Ukrainian or Russian woman. Do you understand what I am telling you? They
>>will buy these women and make a fortune out of them.”
>>
>>To illustrate his point, Tyler grabbed a black calculator and started
>>calling out the sums as he punched them in.
>>“Take a small place,” he said, “with 10 girls. Each has 15 to 20 clients a
>>day. Multiply that by say 200 shekels. So say 30,000 shekels a day comes in
>>to each place. Each girl works 25 days a month. Minimum.”
>>
>>Tyler was busy doing math as he spoke. “So we are talking about 750,000
>>shekels a month, or about $215,000. A man often owns five of these places.
>>That’s a million dollars. No taxes, no real overhead. It’s a factory with
>>slave labor. And we’ve got them all over Israel.”
>>
>>The Tropicana, in Tel Aviv’s bustling business district, is one of the
>>busiest bordellos. The women who work there, like nearly all prostitutes in
>>Israel today, are Russian. Their boss, however, is not.
>>
>>“Israelis love Russian girls,” said Jacob Golan, who owns this and two other
>>clubs, and spoke willingly about the business he finds so “successful.”
>>“They are blonde and good-looking and different from us,” he said, chuckling
>>as he drew his hand over his black hair. “And they are desperate. They are
>>ready to do anything for money.”
>>
>>Always filled with half-naked Russian women, the club is open around the
>>clock. There is a schedule on the wall next to the receptionist—with each
>>woman’s hours listed in a different color, and the days and shifts rotating,
>>as at a restaurant or a bar. Next to the schedule a sign reads, “We don’t
>>accept checks.” Next to that there is a poster for a missing Israeli woman.
>>
>>There are 12 cubicles at the Tropicana where 20 women work in shifts, eight
>>during the daytime, 12 at night. Business is always booming, and not just
>>with foreign workers. Israeli soldiers, with rifles on their shoulders,
>>frequent the place, as do business executives and tourists.
>>Golan was asked if most women who work at the club do so voluntarily. He
>>laughed heartily.
>>
>>“I don’t get into that,” he said, staring vacantly across his club at four
>>Russian women sitting on a low couch. “They are brought here and told to
>>work. I don’t force them. I pay them. What goes on between them and the men
>>they are with, how could that be my problem?”
>>
>>Deterrent Strategies: A System that Fails Those Who Testify
>>
>>Every once in a while, usually with great fanfare and plenty of advance
>>notice, Golan gets raided. He pays a fine, and the women without good false
>>documents are taken to prison.
>>
>>If they are deported, the charges against them are dropped. But if a woman
>>wants to file a complaint, then she must remain in prison until a trial is
>>held. “In the past four years,” Betty Lahan, prison director of Neve Tirtsa
>>here, said, “I don’t know of a single case where a woman chose to testify.”
>>
>>Such punitive treatment of victims is the rule rather than the exception. In
>>Italy, where the police say killings of women forced into prostitution
>>average one a month, parliament tried to create a sort of witness protection
>>program. But it only allowed women to stay in the country for one year and
>>did nothing to hide their identities.
>>
>>“The deck is just so completely stacked against the women in all this,” said
>>Daniella Pompei, an immigration specialist with the community of Sant’
>>Egidio, the Catholic relief agency in Rome. “The police is the last place
>>these women want to go.” She said that only 20 women had ever used the
>>protection program.
>>
>>It is not clear who will stop the mob. On a trip to Ukraine late last year,
>>Hillary Rodham Clinton spoke out about the new slave trade that has
>>developed so rapidly there. The United States and the European Union have
>>plans to work together to educate young women about the dangers of working
>>abroad. Other initiatives, like stays of deportation for prisoners, victims’
>>shelters and counseling, have also been discussed.
>>
>>“I don’t care about any of that,” said Lena, a young Latvian, one of the
>>inmates waiting to be deported here. “I just want to know one thing. How
>>will I ever walk down the street like a human being again?”
>>
>>
>>
>>



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:10:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 20:29:58 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:14:31 -0800, Chris Dollmont 
>>wrote:
>>>intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
>>
>>>> : someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>> : : In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>>>> : : Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.
>>
>>>> Actually it is anti Christian for the Jews to have our cross removed.
>>>> Grosvenor is merely pointing out the atrocity and sacrilege caused by the
>>>> Jews in desecrating our Remembrance day.
>>
>>>The Jews did not have the cross removed from the cenotaph! The only place
>>>that happened was in the mind of one William Grosvenor. Here are the facts:
>>>
>>>1) The cross was removed from the cenotaph.
>>>2) The removal was an attempt to make the cenotaph less 'religious' and open
>>>to more groups.
>>>3) Although Grosvenor fingers Len Dolgoy, the newspaper articles that he
>>>(mis)cites clearly state that, while Dolgoy did bring the matter up, he made
>>>no formal complaint.
>>
>>The Edmonton Journal in interviewing the JEW Dolgoy, quote him as
>>stating that he DID complain.
>>>
>>>Personally, I feel that the removal of the cross is wrong.
>>
>>All Christians are outraged about this one more attempt by the cursed
>>JEWs to desecrate the symbol not only for all the millions of
>>Christians who died, but to desecrate Remembrance Day!!!
>>[File: C:\Program Files\Netscape\files\cenotaph.txt]



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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:54:47 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:43 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>>Bill of Rights.
>>
>>
>>
>>The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
>>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>>Government of Cuba!!
>>
>>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>>
>>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>>
>>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>>they stop stealing mail!!!
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>
>>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>
>>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>>
>>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>
>>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>
>>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>
>>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>>campaign.
>>
>>>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>>>THEM!!!
>>
>>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>>>at Canada Post include:
>>
>>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>>
>>>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>>
>>>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>
>>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>
>>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>
>>>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>>>disappearing!!!
>>
>>>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>>>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>>
>>
>>>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>>
>>>>>Read all the articles below!!!
>>
>>>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>>>stolen.
>>
>>
>>>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>>
>>>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>>
>>>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>>
>>>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>>>been arrested.
>>
>>>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>>
>>>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>>>mail.
>>
>>>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>>
>>
>>>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>>
>>>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>>
>>>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>>>Registered items!!!!
>>
>>>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>>
>>>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>>
>>
>>>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Rainer,
>>
>>>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>>
>>
>>>>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>>>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>>
>>>>"Canadian Mail Warning
>>
>>>>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>>>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>>>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>>>tip of the iceberg.
>>
>>>>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>>>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>>
>>>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>>>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>>>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>>>>substantial losses.
>>
>>>>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>>>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>>>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>>>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>>>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>>>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>>>pay the higher cost.
>>
>>>>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>>>>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>>
>>>>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>>
>>>>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>> writes
>>>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>>
>>>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>>>letters?
>>
>>>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>>
>>
>>>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>>>USPS.
>>>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>>>as other media.



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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:34:56 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

>> On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:59:28 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >On the other hand, if Grosvenor continues to insist this 52 *pound* sack was
>> >full of valuable computer software, which he was trying to send to the
>> >Government of Cuba, perhaps someone could ask Senators Helms and Burton to
>> >look into the issue.  Grosvenor was nice enough to point out that all the
>> >relevant information (i.e., his full legal identity) is in the Alberta Court
>> >Docket #P9890306082.
>> >Sven
>>
>> I guess the piece of feces calling itself Sven does not remember that
>> Canada is NOT part of the USA!!!
>
>Of course Canada is not part of the U.S., but that's the great thing about
>the Helms-Burton Act, isn't it Billy?  It applies to citizens of any country
>who break the embargo with Cuba.  You won't know a warrant exists for your
>arrest until you try entering the U.S. years hence, at which point you learn
>what "Zero Tolerance" means.
On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
Bill of Rights.



The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
Government of Cuba!!

Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
they stop stealing mail!!!


>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!

>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.

>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!

>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.

>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.

>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>campaign.

>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>THEM!!!

>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>at Canada Post include:

>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number

>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number

>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440

>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.

>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>this story, together with your complaints.

>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>disappearing!!!

>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.


>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.

>>>Read all the articles below!!!

>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>stolen.


>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.

>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.

>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.

>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>been arrested.

>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.

>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>mail.

>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.


>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:

>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>OTTAWA - CANADA

>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>Registered items!!!!

>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada

>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.


>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>wrote:

>>>>Rainer,

>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.


>>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:

>>"Canadian Mail Warning

>>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>tip of the iceberg.

>>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,

>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>>substantial losses.

>>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>pay the higher cost.

>>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"

>>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net

>>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>> writes
>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?

>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>letters?

>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com


>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>USPS.
>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>as other media.
sven 88


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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:18:57 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>>On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:52:15 -0400, "[Unknown sender]"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Hide your crimes behind the holohoax!
>>>
>>>Date: Monday, 22-Dec-97 06:45 PM
>>>
>>>Subject: 6 Indicted in Fraud Over Use of Grants for Hasidic Groups
>>>
>>>   Excerpt:
>>>
>>>   The Federal subpoenas are "...remindful of the Holocaust that many in
>>>   this community endured decades ago."
>>>
>>>   By BENJAMIN WEISER N.Y. Times May 29, 1997 (Metro section only)
>>>
>>>   NEW YORK -- Five members of a Hasidic community in Rockland County and
>>>   one in Brooklyn were indicted Wednesday on charges that they
>>>   systematically defrauded the federal and state governments of tens of
>>>   millions of dollars in student loans, business assistance and housing
>>>   subsidies.
>>>
>>>   In one scheme, according to federal prosecutors, a Talmudic seminary in
>>>   Brooklyn was financed almost entirely by federal Pell grants awarded to
>>>   ineligible or nonexistent students. The defendants also looted state
>>>   student aid programs, Small Business Administration programs and the
>>>   federal Section 8 housing program, prosecutors said.
>>>
>>>   The plans, the authorities said, were used to enrich the defendants but
>>>   also to benefit the community institutions of New Square, the Rockland
>>>   County village, along with the yeshiva in New Square.
>>>
>>>   In a broad indictment unsealed Wednesday in Manhattan, the U.S.
>>>   attorney's office depicted a vast scheme by which the six men and others
>>>   enrolled thousands of New Square and Brooklyn residents in post-secondary
>>>   education programs in Jewish seminaries and Rockland County Community
>>>   College in order to fraudulently obtain money through federal Pell
>>>   grants, which are awarded to needy post-secondary students.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said that most of the students were not eligible for the
>>>   grants, did not get their degrees and, in some cases, enrolled after
>>>   recruiters promised them hundreds of dollars a year. Prosecutors said
>>>   that one Brooklyn seminary program fraudulently got $10.3 million in Pell
>>>   grants "on behalf of its purported students."
>>>
>>>   The government's investigation has been no secret in the tightly knit
>>>   community of about 6,000 in New Square, which consists almost entirely of
>>>   Hasidim. News of the indictment drew sharp criticism there Wednesday. A
>>>   statement by village representatives contended that the U.S. attorney in
>>>   Manhattan, Mary Jo White, had a "vendetta" against New Square residents,
>>>   and that federal agents had earlier scared small children there by
>>>   serving subpoenas at 6 a.m. "in a manner remindful of the Holocaust that
>>>   many in this community endured decades ago."
>>>
>>>   Rabbi Mayer Schiller, (1) who said he was a spokesman for the residents,
>>>   said he was certain that the accusations would be proven false. "They
>>>   have imposed a reign of terror on this entire community," he said,
>>>   referring to the federal prosecutors."
>>>
>>>   Ms. White responded by citing an earlier phase of the investigation when,
>>>   in 1995, a federal judge held the Yeshiva of New Square in contempt of
>>>   court for failing to obey a grand jury subpoena for its bank records and
>>>   other documents, which led to a $1 million fine paid by the yeshiva.
>>>
>>>   "Given the repeated efforts to obstruct the grand jury's investigation,"
>>>   she said, "the response and accusations of unfair treatment are
>>>   disheartening, but not surprising."
>>>
>>>   The indictment was vague about just how the money was put to use, and
>>>   just how much ended up back in the community.
>>>
>>>   Schiller said that New Square was founded in 1957 by four Holocaust
>>>   survivors, including Chaim Berger, one of the defendants named in
>>>   Wednesday's indictment.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said Berger had been a member of the village's board of
>>>   trustees and the board of the Yeshiva of New Square, and was chairman of
>>>   the board of the Brooklyn seminary, Toldos Yakov Yosef, where many of the
>>>   New Square and Brooklyn students receiving Pell grants were enrolled.
>>>
>>>   The indictment asserted that Berger and two other of the seminary's
>>>   administrators, Kalmen Stern and David Goldstein, created a false picture
>>>   of the seminary's programs. The indictment said they falsified resumes,
>>>   minutes of the board meetings and reviews of student progress to get
>>>   federal money.
>>>
>>>   The seminary was financed "almost exclusively" by Pell grants awarded to
>>>   the school on behalf of its "alleged" students from 1987 to 1993, the
>>>   indictment said, but in reality, it added, the school enrolled students
>>>   who did not meet the requirements, were not seeking a degree, and did not
>>>   take tests or even take part in any actual program of study.
>>>
>>>   The indictment said that in the early 1980s, Berger and others helped
>>>   create a program for "independent Judaic Studies" for New Square students
>>>   at Rockland County Community College.
>>>
>>>   From 1982 to 1988, thousands of students were enrolled, and most got Pell
>>>   grants and state tuition aid. The indictment said that many of these
>>>   students were also not eligible for aid, and in some cases, did not even
>>>   know they were enrolled.
>>>
>>>   "Some New Square and Brooklyn residents were enrolled in as many as five
>>>   different educational institutions, and received Pell Grants for as many
>>>   as 10 or more years, without ever receiving any degree or any certificate
>>>   reflecting that they had completed a program of study," the indictment
>>>   said.
>>>
>>>   Besides Berger and Stern, the indictment charged three other New Square
>>>   residents, Jacob Elbaum; Berger's son, Benjamin, and Avrum D.  Friesel
>>>   who, according to Schiller, is the son of New Square's mayor.  Goldstein,
>>>   the sixth defendant, lives in Brooklyn.
>>>
>>>   None of the defendants or their lawyers could be reached for comment
>>>   Wednesday. Gerald Shargel, a lawyer for the Yeshiva of New Square, said
>>>   he could not comment on the specifics of the case.
>>>
>>>



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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:39:43 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:58:12 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Subject: Canada Post Managers Can STEAL MAIL!!!
>>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:38 GMT
>>
>>
>>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>>Bill of Rights.
>>
>>
>>
>>The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
>>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>>Education department of the Government of Cuba!!
>>
>>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>>
>>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>>
>>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>>they stop stealing mail!!!
>>
>>Surely the managers in Canada Post are not being paid by the CIA to
>>steal mail sent to Cuba??
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>
>>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>>foreign government department. (The Education department of the Government of Cuba)
>>>>The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>>
>>
>>>> One must wonder whether the CIA have "arranged" to have items for Cuba 
>>>>stolen by Canada Post managers???
>>
>>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>
>>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>
>>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>
>>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>>campaign.
>>
>>>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>>>THEM!!!
>>
>>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>>>at Canada Post include:
>>
>>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>>
>>>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>>
>>>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>
>>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>
>>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>
>>>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>>mail to and from Canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it disappearing!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 05:35:51 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>Will the US now be able to use the payoff to the bankrupt Canadian
>>>insurance company, Confederation Life, as the legal precedent to make
>>>Sherritt pay for the theft of the assets of freeport-McMoran??
>>
>>>>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:27:39 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>It seems that the payoff to the bankrupt Canuck insurance company, now
>>>>>sets a legal precedent for Freeport McMoran to collect both from
>>>>>Sherritt, and the Cuban government in the World Court.
>>
>>>>>This should create some interesting situations vis a vis the
>>>>>Canadian/US relations, what???
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>>>>Life Insurance??
>>
>>>>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>>>>YEARS??
>>
>>>>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million - crooks in Canada, or in
>>>>>>Cuba??
>>
>>>>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>>>>reparations??
>>
>>>>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>>
>>>>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>>
>>>On 8 Jul 1998 14:46:25 GMT, ricardoag@aol.com (Ricardoag) wrote:
>> 
>>>>Wednesday, July 8, 1998 
>>
>>>>Helms won't let Sherritt off the hook 
>>
>>>>By PETER MORTON 
>>>>Washington Bureau Chief The Financial Post 
>>>> Sherritt International Corp. and other foreign companies now in Cuba are
>>>>playing a pivotal role in whether a U.S.-European Union deal on investment on
>>>>the island will be approved by Congress, industry and government sources say. 
>>>> Senator Jesse Helms, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is
>>>>demanding Toronto-based Sherritt and other companies already swept up by the
>>>>Helms-Burton law continue to be punished, sources said yesterday. 
>>
>>>> "Sherritt is seen as the poster boy of Helms-Burton and Helms does not want to
>>>>see Sherritt off the hook," said one industry source close to the U.S.-EU
>>>>negotiations. 
>>
>>>> Helms is worried the deal signed by the U.S. and the EU in May would
>>>>essentially "immunize" Sherritt and others operating on expropriated property
>>>>since any new penalties imposed by the U.S. would be only on investment in Cuba
>>>>since then, the source said. 
>>
>>>> "In fact, under the final text of the understanding, a current investor would
>>>>even retain the right to pass this property to another EU investor who, in
>>>>turn, could use this stolen property in perpetuity ­ all with the blessing of
>>>>the U.S. government," Helms and Benjamin Gilman, chairman of the House
>>>>Committee on International Relations, said in a June 17 letter to Secretary of
>>>>State Madeline Albright. 
>>
>>>> Sherritt is the largest single foreign investor in property in Cuba
>>>>expropriated by President Fidel Castro in 1959. It is mining nickel on property
>>>>formerly owned by Freeport-McMoRan Inc. of New Orleans. 
>>
>>>> So far, Sherritt is the one of two foreign companies to be swept up in
>>>>Helms-Burton. Its executives, along with those from an Israeli fruit company,
>>>>have been barred from entering the U.S. under the Helms-Burton law. No European
>>>>companies have fallen under Helms-Burton. 
>>
>>>> EU Trade Commissioner Sir Leon Brittan said yesterday there is no chance the
>>>>deal would be re-negotiated to meet Helms's concerns. 
>>>> "We're not agreeable to modifying the agreement," he said. 
>>>> The EU is waiting for the U.S. Congress to approve the pact, although Brittan
>>>>said he did not receive any indication on when legislation would even be
>>>>presented to Congress. 
>>
>>>> The proposed U.S.-EU deal would give President Bill Clinton the right to waive
>>>>that part of Helms-Burton, called Title III. He has already waived Title IV,
>>>>the section that would allow U.S. companies and citizens to sue foreign
>>>>companies for operating on what was once their property in Cuba. There are
>>>>5,911 U.S.-recognized claims and lawsuits could be expected to reach billions
>>>>of dollars. 
>>
>>>> The agreement would also enable European companies to invest in Iran and Libya
>>>>if the EU ensured the two countries' terrorism campaigns were not being
>>>>supported. 
>>
>>>> So far, Ottawa has not signed on to the proposed deal, insisting it is still
>>>>looking into the complex agreement, said Leslie Swartman, a spokeswoman for
>>>>Trade Minister Sergio Marchi. 
>>
>>>> But Canadian government sources said what happens to Sherritt is a key
>>>>consideration in whether the federal government would go along with the U.S.-EU
>>>>agreement, try to negotiate a separate deal with the U.S. or simply stay away. 
>>>> "There is no doubt Sherritt is one consideration," an official said. 
>>>> The EU agreed not only not to fund any private venture on confiscated property
>>>>in Cuba nor on confiscated property anywhere in the world, something Helms is
>>>>looking for, said Robert Muse, a Washington lawyer specializing in Cuba. 
>>>> "Jesse Helms wants to see such an agreement reached," he said. 
>>>>       ricardo a. gonzalez              



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On Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:37:52 GMT, sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:04:09 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:13:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>>wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:18:46 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>>>>>On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>>>>>>>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>>>>>>>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>>>>>>>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>>>>>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Nothing new here.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>>>>>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>>>>>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>>>>>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Definitely not a charity.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>>>>>>>> answer??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>>>>>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>>>>>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>>>>>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>>>>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>>>>>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>>>>>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>>>>>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>>>>>>>> >               letters?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>>>>>>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>>>>>>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>>>>>>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith's butt.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>>>>>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>>>>>>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>>>>>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>>>>>>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>>>>>>>Canadian dollars. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>>>>>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>>>>>>>> >OyVey???
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>>>>>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Check this out!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>>>>>>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>>>>>>>letter just ask.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>>>>>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>>>>>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>>>>>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>>>>>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>>>>>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>>>>>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>>>>>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>>>>>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>>>>>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>>>>>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>>>>>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>>>>>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>>>>>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>>>>>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>>>>>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>>>>>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>>>>>>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>>>>>>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>>>>>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with 'loan' grants or
>>>>>>>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>>>>>>>> >dramatizations.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>>>>>>>> >their way into White America's good nature and generousity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >NO MORE!  The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>>>>>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>>>>>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>nationalist@juno.com
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natall.com"
>>>>>>>>"http://www.natvan.com"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>National Vanguard Books
>>>>>>>>P.O. Box 330
>>>>>>>>Hillsboro, WV   24946
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"No man has come to true greatness who has not felt
>>>>>>>>in some degree that his life belongs to his race."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                                ----Phillips Brooks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Subscribe to our mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
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On Sat, 07 Nov 1998 00:50:02 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:59:55 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>HAVE ALL YOU AIDS-LOVERS FORGOTTEN, THAT IT WAS FAGGOTS, WHO
>>DELIBERATELY SPREAD AIDS WORLDWIDE, in the 1980's??
>>
>>
>>Just read the 640 pages of detailed documentation, in the book AND THE
>>BAND PLAYED ON.
>>
>>If that doesn't make you sick enough, then read the reports from the
>>Canadian Government regarding the deliberate spread of AIDs, from
>>infected faggots, through the Canadian red Cross Blood Service..
>>
>>On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:18:33 -0400, Redbeard 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>mothug@pacbell.net wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ma'am, or Sir,
>>>>         I am sorry if I had offended you in any way, but that was just my
>>>> opinion about gays and lesbians.
>>>
>>>Please keep it that way. And keep it to your self.
>>>>         Also answering another question that I got in the mail, I think gays
>>>> and lesbians are disgusting because I do not see how these people of the
>>>> same sex get pleasure off of each other.
>>>
>>>You enjoy the company of people of your own sex, do you not? You have
>>>friends who are the same sex as you and you call them friends, do you
>>>not? How do you derive pleasure and enjoyment from such relations?
>>>>         I am not going to say that it is a sin or  against God's will even
>>>> though I think it is. Why do I think it is against God's will? If this
>>>> kind of thing is really allowed by god, he would not have created men
>>>> and  women on this earth.
>>>
>>>And if God wanted man to fly he would have given us wings right? How
>>>about god gave us brains so we can think for ourselfs and not take what
>>>every lunatic is spewing forth about God and his will? Have you met God?
>>>Do you know her? Is your god the same as mine ( I hope not, your's is a
>>>bigot).  And why would God create Gays and Lesbians if it were a sin?
>>>Does God practice waste of creative powers? Can you accuse God of such
>>>as a human and one of his/hers creations?
>>>
>>>>         I can, however, see it from the other people's point of view about it
>>>> not being against god's will. It's true that us human beings do a lot of
>>>> things that are against god's will.
>>>
>>>Is this independent thought or are you trying to placate your earlier
>>>foot in mouth insertion?
>>>
>>>> For example; When we are having a
>>>> heart transplant, or taking medicine for our own health benefit and
>>>> life, There we are rejecting what god has given us in life.
>>>>         With it being a sin, I think anything that you consider a sin can be
>>>> one. Goodness sake, even taking a shower can be one.
>>>
>>>writting crap and hate against Gods other creatures as well.
>>>
>>>>         Mr. Sandro, in your last paragraph I am a little confused about what
>>>> you meant, "..no one is allowed to seriously write what you wrote."
>>>>         Could you please make it a little bit more clearer. Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>Your coments where mature and as enlightening as a lobotomy.  Maybe the
>>>Romans did have a good think going when they tosed Christians to the
>>>Lions.  If Christianity practiced less hypocrisy and more love, it would
>>>not be the bloodiest relegion on the world.
>>>
>>>
>>>Like god cares what you do behind closed doors............
>>>
>>>P.s. I'm straight but abhore relegious crap like this, filled with
>>>fallacy, hypocricy and lies.



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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:15:20 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Jul 1998 03:03:43 GMT, asumat@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>>ARE THE ROTHSCHILD BEHIND THE CONSPIRACY?
>>By: Efraim Menashe
>>
>>
>>Jerusalem, Israel--It isn't easy being a conspiracy researcher- let
>>alone a Jewish conspiracy researcher- when so many Jews are involved
>>in political intrigue and world domination. This is a fact any
>>objective thinker must conclude- whether the researcher is a Jew or
>>not. As a Jew, the decision is harder to accept.
>>
>>But I guess I am an objective thinker before I am a Jew, and for that
>>reason I am prepared to publicly admit to all who are reading that
>>indeed, there is a conspiracy to control and dominate the world, and
>>that many, many Jews play, and have played a role, in that conspiracy.
>>For this is not speculation, it is fact. The names are well known to
>>all:  Rothschild, Warburg, George Soros, Henry Kissinger, the
>>Bronfmans, Jacob Shiff, Bernard Baruch, Judah Benjamin, etc. However,
>>one must remember that included in the conspiracy are also the
>>Rockefellers, J.P. Morgan, Cecil Rhodes, the British Royal Family, the
>>Vatican, the French and Italian members of the "NWO planning
>>committee." Most of the players in the NWO arena are not Jews, if all
>>the members are included.
>>
>>The problem is that for some reason only the Rothschilds are
>>associated with being behind the creation of "the Illuminati." All the
>>conspiracy literature points the sole finger at this family for
>>creating the Illuminati and causing revolutions in France, Russia, the
>>US, the murder of Lincoln, the creation of the Federal Reserve, the
>>crash of l929, the Bank of England, two World Wars: in fact,
>>everything that supposedly happens in the NWO is carried out via
>>"agents of Rothschild." It is quite amazing how every conspiracy
>>researcher whether it is Tex Marrs, David Icke, Guradas, Ralph
>>Epperson, Eustice Mullins, John Coleman, it doesn't matter from which
>>perspective they came to understand the grand conspiracy, they all
>>agree on one thing that is that the "Rothschilds who are behind
>>everything."
>>
>>The Schiffs, the Warburgs, Bernard Baruch, are said to be "agents of
>>Rothschilds" but this may only mean that no other higher chain of
>>command has been identified. None of these so-called agents ever
>>admitted to being an agent, nor do we really know if they were. The
>>way the conspiracy is described in the revisionist view of history, it
>>is just assumed that they are, as it is assumed that the Rothschilds
>>are behind the creation of the Illuminati. I have yet to see any proof
>>that this is the case. I am not suggesting that the Rothschilds are
>>not players in the NWO, only that they are far from being the only
>>ones and it has never been shown by any conspiracy researcher that
>>they are indeed, "Chairmen of the Board."
>>
>>It is possible that the Rothschilds agreed to have all the blame
>>placed on them so there would be an outlet for those observant people
>>who discovered the conspiracy. The family appears to have accepted
>>that they would be blamed for the conspiracy and this would cause an
>>increase in anti-semitism. The Rothschilds may have gone along with
>>this in order to gain more power in the circle of powerbrokers.
>>
>>It doesn't seem to occur to the the Rothschilds' accusers that the
>>likelihood of so much power being accumulated by one family is
>>infinitely remote. What is never asked is "What was so special about
>>the policies of the Rothschilds?"  So they lent money to kings.
>>Couldn't other rich people do that? How come no king ever tried to
>>kill one of them to get rid of his debt? There is no recorded event
>>anywhere of any type of opposition to Rothschilds' evil practices. Why
>>not? the Knights Templer made enemies and were defeated by their
>>enemies. How come the Rothschilds had no enemies who took revenge?
>>How is it possible that a family dynasty can attain such power and
>>wealth and yet have no enemies?
>>
>>Another question which needs to be answered is: "Did the Rothschilds
>>run the Illuminati on their own?" Did they alone create all the
>>intrigue and figure out all the plots and carry out the plans to cause
>>the revolutions and wars?
>>
>>The running of the conspiracy is so complex, it defies all logic to
>>suggest that it can be managed by just only one family. They must have
>>had promoters and advocates who were prepared to go along with them.
>>Yet there isn't one recorded event of a rebellion by the people who
>>were following them or any other powerbroker competing for the top
>>spot. The so-called Rothschilds' agents, Schiff, Benjamin, Warburg,
>>Baruch, all went along without any challenge Rothschilds' leadership.
>>Why? Since when has such power entrenched in one family not met with
>>opposition?
>>
>>If the conspiracy theory that the Rothschilds with the Illuminati
>>created the French revolution is true, and that the War of 1812, the
>>Civil War, murder of Abraham Lincoln, the Russian revolution, the
>>Russian-Japan war were Rothschild inspired, how is it that hrough all
>>of these years the family was able to keep themselves so completely
>>hidden from the public and free of blame? Why are they so untouchable?
>>Perhaps the near "supermen" status many conspiracy researchers give
>>the Rothschilds needs to be reevaluated. It simply isn't possible for
>>one family to be so powerful over a period of 200 years and for one
>>family to control everything the way conspiracy researchers present
>>it.
>>
>>I am prepared to buy that the Rothschilds from their beginnings are
>>one of the world's lowest form of lifes and responsible for the death
>>of hundreds of millions of people, Jews included. They may even be a
>>devil worshipers.  The entire family is a shame to the Jewish people.
>>They have no love for the Jewish people and they have caused much
>>hardship for their brethren.  So they are criminals but they are just
>>one powerful family out of many.  Why are they being singled out as
>>sitting on top of the heap? Who are all the others that we don't hear
>>about?
>>
>>How could one family have become so powerful that even the Kings of
>>Europe they were lending money to never tried to eliminate the debt by
>>eliminating the moneylender? Certainly these heads of state had the
>>means, militarily and in other ways, to handle the Rothschilds in
>>order not to have to repay debts. However no proof exists anywhere to
>>prove that the Rothschilds were behind the creation of the Illuminati.
>>
>>My point is that they may have been involved in the affair, but they
>>aren't the sole architects of the conspiracy.
>>
>>Fellow conspiracy researchers: there is no Jewish conspiracy. There
>>are plenty of Jews wrapped up in the quest for a NWO, but to ascribe
>>the entire agenda to a small group of Jews, is plainly wrong. The
>>anti-Semites like to point out "how powerful the Jews are", but are
>>the Jews as a people so powerful or is a tiny group of Jews dominating
>>the power?
>>
>>Are these Jews really the ones in charge of the entire agenda to
>>enslave the world? Hardly. The notion that there is a cabal of Jews
>>who sit together once a year and decide how to control the world, and
>>they do this on behalf of some Jewish entity, or Israel, is what we
>>are asked to believe. If such a cabal exists, and the anti-Semites say
>>it has existed for centuries, then where is one recorded historical
>>event of a group of Jews assembling to plan their control over the
>>world? There is no proof anywhere showing that The Protocols of Zion
>>was describing a group of Jews intent on dominating the world so they,
>>the Jews, would be kings. Indeed the protocols was probably an
>>accurate description of a group of people bent on world domination.
>>There may have been some Jews sitting at the table. I believe that. I
>>just don't believe that the majority were Jews.  If not, then who are
>>the others? Who sits at that table other than the selected Jewish
>>powerbrokers?
>>
>>There are Jews involved in the conspiracy to subject the world to a
>>one-world government, no question of that, yet none of them are
>>representing any Jews other than themselves. We know the Jewish masses
>>are wonderful, hardworking educated people. The select few who are
>>rich and are powerbrokers are a disgrace and should be exposed. How
>>Israel's leadership has been thoroughly compromised and corrupted by
>>the international Jewish powerbrokers should also be exposed. Rich,
>>powerful Jews abroad exploit Israel for the gain of the people they
>>work for. If these truths were exposed at least the issue would be
>>confronted and the wound could, at least, start to heal.
>>
>>Unlike the majority of Jews, I have no reason to respect people like
>>George Soros or Edgar Bronfman. They don't represent anyone other than
>>other powerbrokers. I offer no guilt for these people. They are
>>gangsters and like all other gangsters, they need to be punished. It
>>smears the entire Jewish people for these people to claim they are
>>"Jewish leaders."  I'm one Jew/Israeli who never voted for Bronfman
>>and object to his involvement in Jewish affairs and Israeli diplomacy.
>>Jews like Soros and Bronfman are a cancer in the body of the Jewish
>>people and to the state of Israel. I'm all for exposing these
>>criminals and letting them face justice. Perhaps that's the difference
>>between me and the rest of my fellow Jews: I don't care if we "wash
>>our dirty laundry in front of the goyim," we need to wash our dirty
>>laundry in front of ourselves.
>>
>>That, fellow conspiracy researchers, is where I end my apologies. I
>>don't believe there is a Jewish conspiracy or ever was. What happened
>>was that many rich and unscrupulous Jews throughout the past 300 years
>>were prepared to take the blame for the conspiracy in exchange for
>>power and influence. They believed that a little exploitation of your
>>fellow Jews wasn't such a high price to pay if it meant personal
>>advancement. Edgar Bronfman and George Soros were the Baruchs and
>>Warburgs of a generation ago. Nothing changes in the conspiracy. Jews
>>play in the game today as they did then. However I am not sure they
>>are in charge today anymore than they were then.
>>
>>Let's not forget that the Vatican, the French, German, and Italian
>>families, and the existing Monarchies in Europe, are still major
>>sources of political and economic power in the world. The Jews are
>>just one player in a game with many players. The only difference is
>>that the Jews and Israel ARE in the news and identifiable.  Thus it's
>>easy to point the finger at the Jews because they stand out due to
>>their economic strength.  The others remain hidden behind thrones and
>>Churches and a European tradition of secrecy. The Jews are featured in
>>the mainstream media while everything the Vatican and the others do
>>are held in secret so names are not recognizable.
>>
>>No fellow researchers, the Jews don't control the NWO. This conclusion
>>may not be accepted by the Spotlight crowd who are looking for the
>>simple answer and to them, it is just to blame the Jews for world
>>domination.  This is what the non-Jewish NWO players have planned and
>>executed as a cunning policy to keep their plan for a one-world
>>government secret: When it is threatened with exposure, get a few
>>stooges to "blame the Jews" then have a few other dupes point the
>>finger at the stooges and scream "anti-Semite."
>>
>>While the Spotlight crowd may not be capable of realizing how they are
>>being duped, I hope all other sincere conspiracy researchers begin to
>>question their basic contention that "the Rothschilds are behind the
>>conspiracy to dominate the world." While the Rothschilds may be
>>members of the team, they are far from being a one-man show.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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In fact, Canada Post received a  diplomatic protest from South Africa
earlier this year, also in connection with interference with mail from
SA to Canada!!!

It seems the managers at canada Post just like to steal mail, knowing
they are immune from prosecution, even when caught stealing!!!


On Sun, 08 Nov 1998 01:48:55 -0800, Audrius Tomonis
 wrote:

>Big mess with stealing mail in South Africa too.
>
>sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:51:38 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 30 Oct 1998 15:47:29 GMT, kmcvay@veritas.nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay
>> >SOB) wanted to write the following rather than supporting the thieves
>> >in Canada Post:
>> >
>> >On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>> >Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>> >Bill of Rights.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>> >COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
>> >mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>> >Government of Cuba!!
>> >
>> >Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>> >
>> >No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>> >STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>> >
>> >Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>> >they stop stealing mail!!!
>> >
>> >
>> >>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>> >>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>> >
>> >>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>> >>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>> >>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>> >>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>> >>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>> >>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>> >
>> >>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>> >>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>> >>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>> >>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>> >
>> >>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>> >>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>> >>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>> >
>> >>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>> >>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>> >>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>> >>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>> >
>> >>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>> >>>campaign.
>> >
>> >>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>> >>>THEM!!!
>> >
>> >>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts
>> >>>at Canada Post include:
>> >
>> >>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>> >>>     Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>> >
>> >>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>> >>>     Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>> >
>> >>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>> >
>> >>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>> >>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>> >
>> >>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>> >>>this story, together with your complaints.
>> >
>> >>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>> >>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>> >>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>> >>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>> >>>disappearing!!!
>> >
>> >>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>> >>>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>> >>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>> >>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>> >
>> >>>>Read all the articles below!!!
>> >
>> >>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>> >>>>stolen.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>> >>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>> >
>> >>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>> >>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>> >
>> >>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>> >
>> >>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>> >>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>> >>>>>been arrested.
>> >
>> >>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>> >>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>> >
>> >>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>> >>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>> >>>>>mail.
>> >
>> >>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>> >>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>> >>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>> >>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>> >>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>> >
>> >>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>> >>>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>> >>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>> >>>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>> >
>> >>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>> >>>>Registered items!!!!
>> >
>> >>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>> >
>> >>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>> >>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>> >>>>wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>>Rainer,
>> >
>> >>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>> >
>> >
>> >>>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June
>> >>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>> >
>> >>>"Canadian Mail Warning
>> >
>> >>>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>> >>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>> >>>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>> >>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>> >>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>> >>>tip of the iceberg.
>> >
>> >>>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal
>> >>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>> >
>> >>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been
>> >>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of
>> >>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes
>> >>>substantial losses.
>> >
>> >>>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>> >>>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>> >>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail
>> >>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the
>> >>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must
>> >>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>> >>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>> >>>pay the higher cost.
>> >
>> >>>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>> >>>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>> >
>> >>>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>> >
>> >>>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>> >>>>> writes
>> >>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>> >>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>> >
>> >>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>> >>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>> >>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>> >>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>> >>>>>>letters?
>> >
>> >>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>> >>>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>> >>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>> >
>> >
>> >>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>> >>>>USPS.
>> >>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>> >>>>as other media.
>> >
>
>



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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:42:26 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>Since in WWII, the JEW Zionists were allied to the Nazis, your comment
>is incorrect.
>
>
>2 spies for the JEW Mossad  terrorist organisation tried last Thursday
>to murder Hamas leader Khaled Meshal, in Jordan.
>
>According to news reports, the 2 criminals, using Canadian passports,
>used some form of injecting device when they tried to murder the
>popular Hamas chief.
>
>The Candian government is trying to distance itself from the criminalk
>activities of the Israeli Mossad, but it is presently unclear whether
>the Jew terrorists were in fact Canadians, or whether the canadian
>government is again issuing false passports, as it did for the 6 CIA
>agents in Tehran under Joe Clark!!!
>
>One MUST wonder, what is the active involvement of the Canadian
>Government in the worldwide terrorism of the JEWS???
>
>In a strange twist to this story, the JEWS released another Hamas
>leader from the prison in Israel, and then deported him to Jordan.At
>the same time, the media report that Israel provided the antidote to
>the poison used by the spies on Meshal in their murder attempt.
>
>
>On 5 Nov 1998 07:54:40 GMT, morbius@vcn.bc.ca (Michael Morbius) wrote:
>
>>IIRC Mossad didn't have our permission to use those passports.
>>
>>Anyway, don't they kill Nazis?  Isn't that a good thing?
>>
>>Mike



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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:42:26 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>Since in WWII, the JEW Zionists were allied to the Nazis, your comment
>is incorrect.
>
>
>2 spies for the JEW Mossad  terrorist organisation tried last Thursday
>to murder Hamas leader Khaled Meshal, in Jordan.
>
>According to news reports, the 2 criminals, using Canadian passports,
>used some form of injecting device when they tried to murder the
>popular Hamas chief.
>
>The Candian government is trying to distance itself from the criminalk
>activities of the Israeli Mossad, but it is presently unclear whether
>the Jew terrorists were in fact Canadians, or whether the canadian
>government is again issuing false passports, as it did for the 6 CIA
>agents in Tehran under Joe Clark!!!
>
>One MUST wonder, what is the active involvement of the Canadian
>Government in the worldwide terrorism of the JEWS???
>
>In a strange twist to this story, the JEWS released another Hamas
>leader from the prison in Israel, and then deported him to Jordan.At
>the same time, the media report that Israel provided the antidote to
>the poison used by the spies on Meshal in their murder attempt.
>
>
>On 5 Nov 1998 07:54:40 GMT, morbius@vcn.bc.ca (Michael Morbius) wrote:
>
>>IIRC Mossad didn't have our permission to use those passports.
>>
>>Anyway, don't they kill Nazis?  Isn't that a good thing?
>>
>>Mike



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Subject: Who Got C$12 Million Payoff to Bankrupt Company?
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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:29:42 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

With all the rumours about Fidel and the $100 Millions, who got the
$12 Million??

>>On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:31:10 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>
>>>If you have contacts with Freeport-McMoran, perhaps the news will help
>>>them in suing Sherritt, and perhaps the Canucklehead government.
>>>
>>>Help free Cuba from the crooks paying off to a bankrupt Canadian
>>>company!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:13:06 GMT, pmartori@globalserve.net (Pedro
>>>Martori ) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>>>Life Insurance??
>>>>>
>>>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>>>YEARS??
>>>>>
>>>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million - crooks in Canada, or in
>>>>>Cuba??
>>>>>
>>>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>>>reparations??
>>>>>
>>>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>>>>>
>>>>>Make sure that all your friends in Cuba know about this and try to
>>>>>recover the money from Canada!!! Tell Granma about this.
>>>>
>>>>    This is the type of monkey business that canadian premiers have
>>>>been doing with the mobsters called government of Cuba...
>>>>    Cretin know very damned well what it is all about but prefers
>>>>     to make peanuts with kastro than billions with a FREE CUBA !
>>>>********************************************
>>>>Pedro Martori - Montreal, Qc, Canada
>>>>    pmartori@globalserve.net
>>>>********************************************



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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:34:56 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

>> On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:59:28 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >On the other hand, if Grosvenor continues to insist this 52 *pound* sack was
>> >full of valuable computer software, which he was trying to send to the
>> >Government of Cuba, perhaps someone could ask Senators Helms and Burton to
>> >look into the issue.  Grosvenor was nice enough to point out that all the
>> >relevant information (i.e., his full legal identity) is in the Alberta Court
>> >Docket #P9890306082.
>> >Sven
>>
>> I guess the piece of feces calling itself Sven does not remember that
>> Canada is NOT part of the USA!!!
>
>Of course Canada is not part of the U.S., but that's the great thing about
>the Helms-Burton Act, isn't it Billy?  It applies to citizens of any country
>who break the embargo with Cuba.  You won't know a warrant exists for your
>arrest until you try entering the U.S. years hence, at which point you learn
>what "Zero Tolerance" means.
On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
Bill of Rights.



The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
Government of Cuba!!

Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
they stop stealing mail!!!


>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!

>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.

>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!

>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.

>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.

>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>campaign.

>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>THEM!!!

>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>at Canada Post include:

>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number

>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number

>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440

>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.

>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>this story, together with your complaints.

>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>>disappearing!!!

>>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.


>>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.

>>>Read all the articles below!!!

>>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>>stolen.


>>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.

>>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.

>>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.

>>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>>been arrested.

>>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.

>>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>>mail.

>>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.


>>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:

>>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>>OTTAWA - CANADA

>>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>>Registered items!!!!

>>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada

>>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.


>>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>>wrote:

>>>>Rainer,

>>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.


>>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:

>>"Canadian Mail Warning

>>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>>tip of the iceberg.

>>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,

>>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>>substantial losses.

>>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>>pay the higher cost.

>>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"

>>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net

>>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>>> writes
>>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?

>>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>>letters?

>>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com


>>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>>USPS.
>>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>>as other media.
sven 88


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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:39:43 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:58:12 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:
>
>>Subject: Canada Post Managers Can STEAL MAIL!!!
>>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:46:38 GMT
>>
>>
>>On Tuesday 14 October 1998, a Court in Edmonton Canada confirmed that
>>Canada Post IS above the law, even above Magna Carta and the Canadian
>>Bill of Rights.
>>
>>
>>
>>The Court confirmed, that  THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN
>>COMPENSATION, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of
>>mail, being a sack full of computer propgrams being sent to the
>>Education department of the Government of Cuba!!
>>
>>Further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!
>>
>>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>>
>>Ask your government to consider an EMBARGO against Canada Post, until
>>they stop stealing mail!!!
>>
>>Surely the managers in Canada Post are not being paid by the CIA to
>>steal mail sent to Cuba??
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>>>>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>>
>>>>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>>>>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>>>>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>>>>foreign government department. (The Education department of the Government of Cuba)
>>>>The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>>>>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>>>>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>>
>>
>>>> One must wonder whether the CIA have "arranged" to have items for Cuba 
>>>>stolen by Canada Post managers???
>>
>>>>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>>>>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>>>>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>>>>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>>
>>>>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>>>>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>>>>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>>
>>>>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>>>>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>>>>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>>>>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>>
>>>>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>>>>campaign.
>>
>>>>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>>>>THEM!!!
>>
>>>>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>>>>at Canada Post include:
>>
>>>>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>>>>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>>
>>>>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>>>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>>
>>>>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>>
>>>>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>>>>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>>
>>>>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>>>>this story, together with your complaints.
>>
>>>>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>>>>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>>>>mail to and from Canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>>>>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it disappearing!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 05:35:51 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>>Will the US now be able to use the payoff to the bankrupt Canadian
>>>insurance company, Confederation Life, as the legal precedent to make
>>>Sherritt pay for the theft of the assets of freeport-McMoran??
>>
>>>>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:27:39 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>It seems that the payoff to the bankrupt Canuck insurance company, now
>>>>>sets a legal precedent for Freeport McMoran to collect both from
>>>>>Sherritt, and the Cuban government in the World Court.
>>
>>>>>This should create some interesting situations vis a vis the
>>>>>Canadian/US relations, what???
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>>>>Life Insurance??
>>
>>>>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>>>>YEARS??
>>
>>>>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million - crooks in Canada, or in
>>>>>>Cuba??
>>
>>>>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>>>>reparations??
>>
>>>>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>>
>>>>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>>
>>>On 8 Jul 1998 14:46:25 GMT, ricardoag@aol.com (Ricardoag) wrote:
>> 
>>>>Wednesday, July 8, 1998 
>>
>>>>Helms won't let Sherritt off the hook 
>>
>>>>By PETER MORTON 
>>>>Washington Bureau Chief The Financial Post 
>>>> Sherritt International Corp. and other foreign companies now in Cuba are
>>>>playing a pivotal role in whether a U.S.-European Union deal on investment on
>>>>the island will be approved by Congress, industry and government sources say. 
>>>> Senator Jesse Helms, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is
>>>>demanding Toronto-based Sherritt and other companies already swept up by the
>>>>Helms-Burton law continue to be punished, sources said yesterday. 
>>
>>>> "Sherritt is seen as the poster boy of Helms-Burton and Helms does not want to
>>>>see Sherritt off the hook," said one industry source close to the U.S.-EU
>>>>negotiations. 
>>
>>>> Helms is worried the deal signed by the U.S. and the EU in May would
>>>>essentially "immunize" Sherritt and others operating on expropriated property
>>>>since any new penalties imposed by the U.S. would be only on investment in Cuba
>>>>since then, the source said. 
>>
>>>> "In fact, under the final text of the understanding, a current investor would
>>>>even retain the right to pass this property to another EU investor who, in
>>>>turn, could use this stolen property in perpetuity ­ all with the blessing of
>>>>the U.S. government," Helms and Benjamin Gilman, chairman of the House
>>>>Committee on International Relations, said in a June 17 letter to Secretary of
>>>>State Madeline Albright. 
>>
>>>> Sherritt is the largest single foreign investor in property in Cuba
>>>>expropriated by President Fidel Castro in 1959. It is mining nickel on property
>>>>formerly owned by Freeport-McMoRan Inc. of New Orleans. 
>>
>>>> So far, Sherritt is the one of two foreign companies to be swept up in
>>>>Helms-Burton. Its executives, along with those from an Israeli fruit company,
>>>>have been barred from entering the U.S. under the Helms-Burton law. No European
>>>>companies have fallen under Helms-Burton. 
>>
>>>> EU Trade Commissioner Sir Leon Brittan said yesterday there is no chance the
>>>>deal would be re-negotiated to meet Helms's concerns. 
>>>> "We're not agreeable to modifying the agreement," he said. 
>>>> The EU is waiting for the U.S. Congress to approve the pact, although Brittan
>>>>said he did not receive any indication on when legislation would even be
>>>>presented to Congress. 
>>
>>>> The proposed U.S.-EU deal would give President Bill Clinton the right to waive
>>>>that part of Helms-Burton, called Title III. He has already waived Title IV,
>>>>the section that would allow U.S. companies and citizens to sue foreign
>>>>companies for operating on what was once their property in Cuba. There are
>>>>5,911 U.S.-recognized claims and lawsuits could be expected to reach billions
>>>>of dollars. 
>>
>>>> The agreement would also enable European companies to invest in Iran and Libya
>>>>if the EU ensured the two countries' terrorism campaigns were not being
>>>>supported. 
>>
>>>> So far, Ottawa has not signed on to the proposed deal, insisting it is still
>>>>looking into the complex agreement, said Leslie Swartman, a spokeswoman for
>>>>Trade Minister Sergio Marchi. 
>>
>>>> But Canadian government sources said what happens to Sherritt is a key
>>>>consideration in whether the federal government would go along with the U.S.-EU
>>>>agreement, try to negotiate a separate deal with the U.S. or simply stay away. 
>>>> "There is no doubt Sherritt is one consideration," an official said. 
>>>> The EU agreed not only not to fund any private venture on confiscated property
>>>>in Cuba nor on confiscated property anywhere in the world, something Helms is
>>>>looking for, said Robert Muse, a Washington lawyer specializing in Cuba. 
>>>> "Jesse Helms wants to see such an agreement reached," he said. 
>>>>       ricardo a. gonzalez              



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On Sat, 07 Nov 1998 00:50:02 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:59:55 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>HAVE ALL YOU AIDS-LOVERS FORGOTTEN, THAT IT WAS FAGGOTS, WHO
>>DELIBERATELY SPREAD AIDS WORLDWIDE, in the 1980's??
>>
>>
>>Just read the 640 pages of detailed documentation, in the book AND THE
>>BAND PLAYED ON.
>>
>>If that doesn't make you sick enough, then read the reports from the
>>Canadian Government regarding the deliberate spread of AIDs, from
>>infected faggots, through the Canadian red Cross Blood Service..
>>
>>On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:18:33 -0400, Redbeard 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>mothug@pacbell.net wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ma'am, or Sir,
>>>>         I am sorry if I had offended you in any way, but that was just my
>>>> opinion about gays and lesbians.
>>>
>>>Please keep it that way. And keep it to your self.
>>>>         Also answering another question that I got in the mail, I think gays
>>>> and lesbians are disgusting because I do not see how these people of the
>>>> same sex get pleasure off of each other.
>>>
>>>You enjoy the company of people of your own sex, do you not? You have
>>>friends who are the same sex as you and you call them friends, do you
>>>not? How do you derive pleasure and enjoyment from such relations?
>>>>         I am not going to say that it is a sin or  against God's will even
>>>> though I think it is. Why do I think it is against God's will? If this
>>>> kind of thing is really allowed by god, he would not have created men
>>>> and  women on this earth.
>>>
>>>And if God wanted man to fly he would have given us wings right? How
>>>about god gave us brains so we can think for ourselfs and not take what
>>>every lunatic is spewing forth about God and his will? Have you met God?
>>>Do you know her? Is your god the same as mine ( I hope not, your's is a
>>>bigot).  And why would God create Gays and Lesbians if it were a sin?
>>>Does God practice waste of creative powers? Can you accuse God of such
>>>as a human and one of his/hers creations?
>>>
>>>>         I can, however, see it from the other people's point of view about it
>>>> not being against god's will. It's true that us human beings do a lot of
>>>> things that are against god's will.
>>>
>>>Is this independent thought or are you trying to placate your earlier
>>>foot in mouth insertion?
>>>
>>>> For example; When we are having a
>>>> heart transplant, or taking medicine for our own health benefit and
>>>> life, There we are rejecting what god has given us in life.
>>>>         With it being a sin, I think anything that you consider a sin can be
>>>> one. Goodness sake, even taking a shower can be one.
>>>
>>>writting crap and hate against Gods other creatures as well.
>>>
>>>>         Mr. Sandro, in your last paragraph I am a little confused about what
>>>> you meant, "..no one is allowed to seriously write what you wrote."
>>>>         Could you please make it a little bit more clearer. Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>Your coments where mature and as enlightening as a lobotomy.  Maybe the
>>>Romans did have a good think going when they tosed Christians to the
>>>Lions.  If Christianity practiced less hypocrisy and more love, it would
>>>not be the bloodiest relegion on the world.
>>>
>>>
>>>Like god cares what you do behind closed doors............
>>>
>>>P.s. I'm straight but abhore relegious crap like this, filled with
>>>fallacy, hypocricy and lies.



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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:29:42 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

With all the rumours about Fidel and the $100 Millions, who got the
$12 Million??

>>On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:31:10 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>
>>>If you have contacts with Freeport-McMoran, perhaps the news will help
>>>them in suing Sherritt, and perhaps the Canucklehead government.
>>>
>>>Help free Cuba from the crooks paying off to a bankrupt Canadian
>>>company!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:13:06 GMT, pmartori@globalserve.net (Pedro
>>>Martori ) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>>>Life Insurance??
>>>>>
>>>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>>>YEARS??
>>>>>
>>>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million - crooks in Canada, or in
>>>>>Cuba??
>>>>>
>>>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>>>reparations??
>>>>>
>>>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????
>>>>>
>>>>>Make sure that all your friends in Cuba know about this and try to
>>>>>recover the money from Canada!!! Tell Granma about this.
>>>>
>>>>    This is the type of monkey business that canadian premiers have
>>>>been doing with the mobsters called government of Cuba...
>>>>    Cretin know very damned well what it is all about but prefers
>>>>     to make peanuts with kastro than billions with a FREE CUBA !
>>>>********************************************
>>>>Pedro Martori - Montreal, Qc, Canada
>>>>    pmartori@globalserve.net
>>>>********************************************



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On Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:42:30 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 11:25:17 -0700, Chuck Ferree 
>wrote:
>>The post re alleged criminal acts by Jews,

>>The Zionists, and other Jewish leaders
>> obviously made a decision
>>they would have to take drastic measures themselves
>> the Jewish leaders went on the offensive.
>>Some of the things they did were violent,  they should not be condemmed
>>nor criticized

>>              ZIONIST HEROES - WAR CRIMINALS!!!!
>>        Date: 
>>              Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:16:05 GMT
>>       From: 
>>              someone@somewhere.com
>
>>
>>And don't  forget the genocide of the unarmed civilians at the Q'ana
>>refugee camp by the damn Israelis.
>
>>CHUCK:>>>>And don't forget the hundreds or thousands of years people of
>>the Jewish Faith have been kicked around by just about every country on
>>earth.
>
>
>From all the hsitorical documents, the Christkillers deserved what
>they received, nicht wahr???


And don't forget the murders of the UN troops in Lebanon by the JEWS;

And don't  forget the genocide of the unarmed civilians at the Q'ana
refugee camp by the damn Israelis.


On Sun, 28 Sep 1997 19:17:05 -0700, Clancy
 wrote:

>someone@somewhere.com wrote:
 
>> And don't forget the murders of the British, such as in the King david
>> Hotel, by the IRGUN and Stern Gang, involving this great zionist
>> gangster!!!


>Zionist  terrorist acts from 1939-1996 - part I

>1939 
>Haganah blew up the Iraqi oil pipeline near Haifa palestine. Moshe Dayan was one of 
>the participant in this act. The technique was used again in 1947 at least 4 times.

>August 20, 1937-June 29, 1939
>During this period, Zionist carrtied out a series of attacks against Arab buses, 
>resulting in the seath of 24 persons and wonding 25 others. They are the Master of 
>killing people on buses.

>Nov.25, 1940
>S.S. Patria blown up by Jewish Terrorists in Haifa Harbor, Killing 268 illegal Jewish 
>immigrants.

>Nov. 6 1944
>Zionist Terrorist of Stern gang* assassinated the British Minister Resident in the 
>Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

>July 22, 1946
>Zionist Terrorist blew up the King david Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central 
>offices of the civilian administarion of the Governemnt of Palestine, Killing and 
>injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun gangs claimed responsibility for this 
>criminal act, but subsequentevidence indicated that boith the Haganah and the Jewish 
>Agency were involved.

>October 1, 1946
>The british Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by a bomb explosions, for which Irgun 
>cliam responsibility.

>June 1947
>Letters sent to British Cabnit Minister were found to contain Bombs.

>September 3, 1947
>A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting 
>room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs.( The  
>Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8

>December 11, 1947
>Six Arabs were kiled and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab 
>buses in haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and anothers injured in an attack by armed 
>Zionist on Arab coastal village near Haifa.

>Dec. 13 1947
>Zionist terrorist believed to be memeber of Irgun Zvia Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and 
>wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda Area. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown 
>in an Arab market-place near Damascus Gate; in Jaffa bombs were thrown into an Arab 
>cafe; in the Arab village of Al Yahudia near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack 
>with mortars and automatic weapons.

>Dec. 19, 1947
>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the 
>ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah 
>admitted responsibility for the attack.

>Dec. 29, 1947
>Two British contables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus 
>Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun Jews threw a bomb from a taxi.

>Dec. 30, 1947
>A mixed forces of the Zionist Palmach and the "Carmel Brigade" attacked the village 
>of Ballad al Shaikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.

>1947-1948
>Over 700,000 Plaestine Arabs were uprooted from their beloved homes and land in 
>Palestine; since than have been denied the right to return or been given compensation 
>for their property. After their expolsion, the "Zionist Israel terrorist Armies" 
>razed to the ground 385 Arabs villages ad towns out of a total of 475, ands 
>oblitrated their remains. These Are "The GOD Chosen People" who commit murder in the 
>name of Judiasm.

>January 1, 1948
>Haganah terrorists attacked attacked a village on the slop of mount Camel; 17 Arabs 
>were killed and 33 were wounded.

>January 4, 1948
>Haganah terrorist wearing British Army Uniform penetrated into the center of Jaffa 
>and blew up the Serai(the old Turkish Governemnt House) which was used as a 
>headqaurter of the Arab national Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 
>98 others.

>January 5, 1948 
>The Arab-owned semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blowm up, killing 20 persons, among 
>them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this 
>outrage.

>January 7, 1948
>seventeen Arabs were kjilled by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them 
>while trying to escape. further casualties, including the murder of a British officer 
>near Hebron, were reported from different part of the country.

>Jan. 16, 1948
>Zionists blew up three Arabs building. in the first, 8 children between the ages of 
>18 month and 12 years, died.

>Dec. 13, 1947- February 10, 1948
>seven incident of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilian in cafe and markets, killing 
>138 and wounding 271 others. during this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. 
>Zionist mind passenger trains on at least 4 occasions killing 93 persons and wounding 
>161 others.

>Feb. 15 1948
>Haganah terrorist attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, 
>killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.

>March 3, 1948
>Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa(a 7 story block of 
>flat and shops) by zionist who drove an army lorry uo to the building and escaped 
>before the detonation of 400 lb. of explosive; casualties numbered 11 Arabs ans 3 
>Armanians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Jewish Gang claimed responsibility of the 
>crime.

>March 22, 1948
>A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 
>others. Four memeber of the Stern Jewish Gang drove two lorry-loaded of explosive 
>into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosive.

>March 31, 1948
>The Cairo_Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month by an 
>electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 
>others.

>April 9, 1948
>A combined forces of Irgun Zvai Leumi and ther Stern Jewish Gang, supported by the 
>Palmach forces captured the Arab village of Deir Yassine and killed than 200 unarmed 
>civilians, including countless women and childern. Older men and young women were and 
>paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were than 
>shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

>April 16, 1948
>Zionist attacked the former British army camp at tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs 
>there.

>April 19 1948
>Fourteen arabs were killed in a hous in Tiberias which was blown up by Zionist 
>terrorist Jews.

>May 11, 1948
>A letter Bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Baker, former commanding Officer in Plaestine, 
>was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

>April 25, 1948- may 13, 1948
>Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and 
>Haganah Terrorist Jews. They stripped and carried away everything they could, 
>destroying what they could not take with them.

>Sept. 17 1948
>Count Folk Bernadotte, UN Mediator in Palestine was assassinated by memeber of the 
>Stern Jewish Gang in the Zionist controlled sector of Jerusalem. Bernadotte's aide 
>Col. serot was also killed and murdered by Jewish terrorist.

>Nov. 1948
>The Arab village of Iqrit and Birim were attacked and destroyed, killing and injuring 
>countless unarmed Arabs, including women and children. All the Arabs were forcibly 
>expelled from their homes and mother land Palestine, Know today as the artificial 
>state of zionist Israel.


sven88



From sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy Sat Nov 14 01:09:41 EST 1998
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On Sat, 7 Nov 1998 22:43:51 +0100, "newsreader"  wrote:

>first you have to determine if there had been a jewish holocaust in the
>terms it has been transmitted, then you can make your recruiting... as for
>all the genocides I bet none of them is that important in your eyes as the
>"holocaust", so at least be sincere about your intentions to further the
>couch-potatoes manipulation that has been carried out by all the
>jew-controlled media since decades.
>
>>               THE HOLOCAUST/GENOCIDE PROJECT

On 7 Aug 1998 10:28:43 GMT, pankiewicz@sun1000.pwr.wroc.pl (Jerzy
Pankiewicz) wrote:

>In soc.culture.jewish Simcha Streltsov  wrote:
>: _Soviet_-occupied Lithuania and trying to escape it, not _German_.
>
>: and to help you better understand that not all people who want to
>: compare "holocausts" - however silly all these comparisons are - have
>: some justification - for years, some historians were 
>: minimizing Soviet and Chinsese murderers while publishing about Germany 
>: due to their political views - such treatment obviously invites
>: backlash - so you will be better off assuring them that you are not part
>: of that crowd instead of immediately antagonizing people who may or may 
>: not have sinister motives


Notice that the JEW HOLOHOAXERS, who benefit financially from the
extortion they demand of foreign governments, just refuse to answer
legitimate questions??


On Fri, 07 Nov 1997 20:45:58 -0600, B'nai B'ruce  wrote:
>Daniel Keren wrote:
>> ASMarques  writes:

>> [A great deal of empty rhetoric deleted]

>I have seen these photos. There is no indication in any of them of an
>atrocity. These persons may have died from typhus, exposure, or other
>natural cause. There is no indication of torture, gassing, or execution
>by gunfire.


Hoewever, if normal people actually questioned, as do you, then
perhaps the HOLOHOAX would be exposed for what it is, massive
extortion!!!


>So, what is the use of using them here, since they are worthless in
>proving a thing? Just to prove the "big lie" of a holocaust that didn't
>happen. 

>These might be Germans killed in Dresden by concussion or lack
>of oxygen in the atrocity the Allies committed there in the fire storms.
>There is no indication they are even Jews. Or they could be Poles, or
>Russians, or Czechs. So, what's the use?


>Body counts in Vietnam were also elevated in order to impress
>commanders. 

>Besides, this  (the socalled genocide documentation) is a faked report concocted by Soviet Jews
>after the war and presented as real to an adoring horde of Allies ready
>to believe anything bad about the German command. 

>And why not? Jews
>owned all the news and film companies. No one else had a chance to
>publish but them. So they misused their ownership to further the cause
>of an Israeli State by claiming the Holocaust demaned it for Jewish
>safety. Pretty nifty plot, actually.


>WARNING: Please be advised that the usual suspect history
>books, old tribunals, Nizkor, and the newly constructed
>USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum)
>contain mostly the old, discredited testimonies prepared by
>the NKVD, a Soviet Jewish Propaganda and Executionist
>Organization which was in charge of the Nuremberg Trial.

Don't forget that the well-known JEW DZERZHINSKI established the
terrorist murder organisation - the Soviet secret Police for his
brother JEWS running communism!!!


>The NKVD was responsible for the murder of the 25,000
>Polish Officers at Katyn Forest. At the Nuremberg Trial, the
>NKVD presented false testimony from false witnesses who
>claimed to have seen the Germans in Katyn lining up the
>Polish Officers and executing them day-by-day. This was a
>fabrication. Since the NKVD ran the investigations and
>prosecution of the Nuremberg Trial and presented false
>evidence as well as discredited testimony which is totally
>inadmissable in court because it was taken under extensive
>torture sessions in order to force people to sign false
>documents, nothing presented at that Trial is trustworthy.

>All of it must be discarded as false and a Stalinist attempt to
>paint the Germans as genocidal nation, when, in fact, it was
>the Soviet Jewish State that killed nearly 100 million
>Christians, 1920-1940.

> Our Jewish controlled newspapers
>will never print that fact. If you wish to find honest studies
>of the holocaust

Actually the earlier so-called holocaust was the extermination of the
Armenians by the Turks in 1913

The WWII HOLOHOAX seems to be just that - a HOAX

>--all of it backed up by solid, indisputable
>facts--in easy-to-find-formats including the most recent
>discoveries of historians and scientists who have spent a
>lifetime studying this period of world war two, stay clear of
>Nizkor. Instead, visit a compendium of factual information
>prepared by experts at

>THE CODOH PROJECT
>http://www.codoh.com/subjindex.html

>Goy Boy 





From sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy Sat Nov 14 01:09:41 EST 1998
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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:39:30 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>>                   By Dr. E. R. Fields
>>
>>   The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>>world's sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>>actual took place.
>>
>>              NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON'T ADD UP
>>
>>   The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>>population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine."
>>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>>   With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>>holocaust "survivors" had applied for reparations money. The Red
>>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>>that in the Jews real "bible", The Talmud, it is claimed that
>>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>>   The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>>having been put to death "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz."
>>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>>these figures which today are accepted as "gospel truth".
>>   It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>>"extermination camp".
>>
>>             HIMMLER-"REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS"
>>
>>   Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that "The death rate in the
>>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source,
>>Reitlinger's book, "The Final Solution.")
>>   The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler's
>>order on Jan 20, 1943, "Every means will be used to lower the
>>death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>>   On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>>in the "shockingly high mortality figures." (Source: Nuremberg
>>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>>2.8% in June 1943.
>>   The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of "extermination?"
>>   With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>>"Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>>Criminals". It was after this meeting that the announcement
>>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>>
>>                  THE  PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>>
>>   In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>>states in the paper, "Books and Bookmen", April 1975, page 5,
>>"No gassing took place in any camp on German soil."
>>   The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>>believe in rumors of gassings.
>>
>>   This brings up the following questions.
>>   1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>>   2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>>MASS GASSINGS!
>>   3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>>died from typhus.
>>   4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>>the response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have
>>not spoken of them." (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>>1946.)
>>
>>             FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>>
>>   Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such "confessions" are about
>>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>>1936. The communists wrote the "Confession' and Hoess signed it.
>>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>>died in his cell.
>>   Hoess statement read, "half an hour after having released the
>>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>>smoking."
>>   Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>>gassing? Zyclon-B is not "ventable". The manufacturers state
>>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>>workers ran into the gas chamber "eating and smoking" - without
>>gas masks - only minutes after the gassing - IF THIS OCCURRED
>>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>>
>>                    GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>>
>>   The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, "The Capture and Trial
>>of Adolph Eichmann" pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>>"became immediately gaseous."
>>   The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: "We know of
>>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air."
>>
>>                  CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>>
>>   Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), "We knew when the people
>>were dead because their screaming stopped." If anyone were
>>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>>which carry typhus.
>>
>>               THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>>
>>   At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT'S ALL!  In these three
>>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>>ovens were very small with only 18' doors and a time period of
>>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>>stored at the camps for cremations.
>>   A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>>William L. Shirer's book, "The Rise and Fall of the Third
>>Reich." It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>>of people were gassed and then burned in this company's ovens.
>>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>>   "The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>>burning."
>>   WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>>   On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people - this would
>>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>>ashes.
>>   It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>>could be found. The official answer was that it was "taken to
>>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!"
>>
>>           WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>>
>>   Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>>1967. "It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>>systematic extermination in those camps."
>>   Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: "I was at
>>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there."
>>   Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>>"The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie - the
>>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time."
>>   Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. "The
>>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel."
>>
>>                WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>>
>>   Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>>holocaust which never occurred?
>>   Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, "Not
>>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists."
>>   S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, "The
>>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>>will cowtow to the Jews."
>>   Zionist spokesmen often boast of: "The shattering effect of
>>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>>of collective indebtedness to the Jews."
>>   Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>>condemned as being "anti-Semitic" and "insensitive" to holocaust
>>victims.
>>   The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>>laws.
>>
>>                 A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>>
>>   The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>>38 years. When they don't use the holocaust the money collection
>>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>>
>>                 HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>>
>>   Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>>Zionist political goals.



From sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy Sat Nov 14 01:09:42 EST 1998
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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:24:31 GMT, kenoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:00:36 -0400,  wrote:
>>Hey Warr,
>
>>Get some new material. Fran Dresher you aint. Henny Youngman could do better
>>sleepwalking.
>
>On Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:00:54 +0200, "Rob"  wrote:
>
>>You are right!!!
>
>On 10 Oct 1998 18:46:42 GMT,  (Kenneth McVay SOBC) wrote:
>
>JEWISH JOKES
>
>How was copper wiring invented?
>Two Jews fighting over a penny!
>
>
>How is Christmas celebrated in a Jewish home?
>They put parking meters on the roof!
>
>
>Why is money green?
>Because Jews pick it before it's ripe!
>
>
>What candy did Hitler hate more then any other?
>Jew Jew Beans... Although I heard he enjoyed them "roasted!"
>
>
>If Tarzan and Jane were Jewish, what would Cheetah be?
>A fur coat!
>
>
>Why don't Jews eat pork?
>They may be a lot of things, but CANNIBALS they're not!
>
>
>Why aren't Jews attacked by sharks?
>Professional courtesy!
>
>
>Do you know how to keep Jews out of a country club?
>Let one in, and he'll keep the rest out.
>
>
>What's the Jewish version of foreplay?
>Half an hour of begging.
>
>
>How can you tell the mother-in-law at a Jewish wedding?
>She's the one on her hands and knees picking up the rice!
>
>
>Did you hear about the new tires, Firestein?
>They not only stop on a dime, they also pick it up!
>
>
>What's the difference between a circumcision and crucifixion?
>In a crucifixion, they throw the whole Jew out!
>
>
>Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years?
>Someone dropped a quarter!
>
>
>Why do Jews have such big noses?
>Because air is free.
>
>
>What did the Jewish mother ask her daughter when she learned she had
>an
>affair?
>Who catered it?
>
>
>What happens when a Jew with an erection walks into a wall?
>He breaks his nose.
>
>
>What's a Jewish dilemma?
>Free ham.
>
>
>What's the difference between a Jewish bitch and a barracuda?
>Nail polish.
>
>
>What's the difference between an elephant and a Jew?
>An elephant eventually forgets.
>
>
>A nigger was walking down the street, kicking some rubbish out of his
>way,
>when he spotted something amid the trash that gleamed
>strangely. It urned out to be an oddly shaped bottle, and when he
>rubbed it, a
>Jewish genie appeared. "I'll give you two wishes," quipped
>the genie. "Far out," said the black man. "First, I want to be white,
>uptight,
>and out of sight!" Second, I want to be surrounded by warm,
>sweet pussy. So the genie turned him into a TAMPON! The moral of this
>story:
>You can't get anything from a Jew without strings
>attached!
>
>
>How do you stop a Jewish girl from fucking you?
>Marry her!
>
>
>Why do jewish bitches only sleep with circumcised men?
>They want 20% off everything!
>
>
>What's the difference between between karate and judo?
>Karate is a form of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.
>
>
>Did you hear that the limbo was invented by the Jews?
>Yeah, from sneaking into pay toilets.
>
>
>What's the definition of a queer Jew?
>Someone that likes girls more then money.
>
>
>What do you call ten Jewish bitches in a basement?
>A WHINE cellar.
>
>
>Why did the Jewish mother have herself entombed at Bloomingdales?
>So her daughter would visit at least twice a week.
>
>
>What's the difference between a vulture and a Jew?
>A vulture waits until you're dead to eat your heart out!
>
>-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion
>==-----
>http://www.dejanews.com/   Now offering spam-free web-based
>newsreading
>
>
>
>On Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0700, "WaRR" 
>wrote:
>
>>what do you get when you cross a jewish women and an arab women??
>>oil of no lay!!
>
>>=what is the difference between karate and judo?
>>karate is the art of self-defense, and judo is what bagels are made of.
>
>>=i knew a jewish woman once who thought the apostle's creed was
>>what fought rocky balboa.
>
>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a toilet?
>>a toilet doesn't follow you around for 9 months after you use it.
>
>>=did you hear that al italia and el al were merging to form a new airline?
>>it's called well i'll tell ya.=what do you call a jewish woman's waterbed?
>>the dead sea. second prize: lake placid.
>
>>=how was copper wire invented?
>> by 2 jews fighting over a penny.
>
>>=why are jewish men circumcised?
>> because jewish women won't buy anything unless it's 20% off.
>
>>=what do you call an uncircumcised jewish baby?
>>a girl.
>
>>=what do you get when you cross a jewish british princess & a computer?
>>a computer that never goes down on you.
>>=what's a jewish british princess' favorite wine?
>> i wanna go to palmsprings.
>>=how do you know a jewish british princess has an orgasm?
>>she drops her nail file.
>
>>=what do you have when you get 3 jewish british princesses together
>>with 3 other women who have yeast infections?a whine and cheese party.
>>=how many jewish british princesses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
>>two, one to get a diet coke and one to call daddy.
>
>>=why do jewish girls like prostitution?
>>because they can sell it again and again and again.
>
>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and jello?
>>jello moves when you eat it.
>
>>=how does a jewish british princess do it doggie style?
>>she makes him beg for an hour.
>
>>=what's the difference between a jewish british princess and a catholic
>>british princess?
>>the catholic british princess has fake jewelry and real orgasms.
>
>>=what's the difference between jews and canoes?
>>canoes tip.   ( THIS ONE FREAKS ME OUT :)))))
>
>>=what's the difference between jews and pizzas?
>>pizzas don't scream when you put them in the oven.
>
>>=what is a jewish dilemma?
>>free ham.
>
>>=what do you call a jewish piano?
>>a cash register.
>
>>=how many jews does it take to change a light bulb?
>>none. they are used to sitting in the dark.
>
>>=did you hear about the rabbi who did free circumcisions?
>>he only took tips.
>
>>=how many jews can you fit in a vw?
>>two in the front, two in the back, and ten thousand in the ash tray.
>
>>=a priest, a baptist minister, and a rabbi were asked how they would
>>divide up some gold coins between themselves and god. the priest
>>replied, "i'd draw a line down the middle of the room, throw the
>>coins in the air, and whatever landed on one side goes to god,
>>the other to me." the minister replied, "i'd draw a circle in
>>the middle of the room, and whatever lands inside is for god,
>>outside for me." the rabbi's answer was, he wouldn't draw any
>>line, just throw the money in the air and whatever god caughthe could keep.
>
>>=an italian, a jew, and a homosexual were walking down the street and
>>were hit by the same bolt of lightning. next thing they know they're
>>in front of st. peter begging for a second chance. "ok," he says,
>>"but on one condition: you must give up that which you love the most.
>>if you don't, you go straight to hell." after agreeing, they find
>>themselves back on the street and they start walking again. a few
>>blocks down they pass a pizza store. "i can't help myself!" says the
>>italian... he goes in, takes a bite of pizza, and poof!, he
>>disappears. so the jew and the homosexual continue walking
>>down the street. the jew sees a penny on the sidewalk. "i can't
>>help myself!" he says. he reaches for the penny and poof! the
>>homosexual disappears.
>
>>yours truly
>
>>WaRR
>-88-
>



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On Sat, 07 Nov 1998 00:50:02 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:59:55 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>HAVE ALL YOU AIDS-LOVERS FORGOTTEN, THAT IT WAS FAGGOTS, WHO
>>DELIBERATELY SPREAD AIDS WORLDWIDE, in the 1980's??
>>
>>
>>Just read the 640 pages of detailed documentation, in the book AND THE
>>BAND PLAYED ON.
>>
>>If that doesn't make you sick enough, then read the reports from the
>>Canadian Government regarding the deliberate spread of AIDs, from
>>infected faggots, through the Canadian red Cross Blood Service..
>>
>>On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 12:18:33 -0400, Redbeard 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>mothug@pacbell.net wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ma'am, or Sir,
>>>>         I am sorry if I had offended you in any way, but that was just my
>>>> opinion about gays and lesbians.
>>>
>>>Please keep it that way. And keep it to your self.
>>>>         Also answering another question that I got in the mail, I think gays
>>>> and lesbians are disgusting because I do not see how these people of the
>>>> same sex get pleasure off of each other.
>>>
>>>You enjoy the company of people of your own sex, do you not? You have
>>>friends who are the same sex as you and you call them friends, do you
>>>not? How do you derive pleasure and enjoyment from such relations?
>>>>         I am not going to say that it is a sin or  against God's will even
>>>> though I think it is. Why do I think it is against God's will? If this
>>>> kind of thing is really allowed by god, he would not have created men
>>>> and  women on this earth.
>>>
>>>And if God wanted man to fly he would have given us wings right? How
>>>about god gave us brains so we can think for ourselfs and not take what
>>>every lunatic is spewing forth about God and his will? Have you met God?
>>>Do you know her? Is your god the same as mine ( I hope not, your's is a
>>>bigot).  And why would God create Gays and Lesbians if it were a sin?
>>>Does God practice waste of creative powers? Can you accuse God of such
>>>as a human and one of his/hers creations?
>>>
>>>>         I can, however, see it from the other people's point of view about it
>>>> not being against god's will. It's true that us human beings do a lot of
>>>> things that are against god's will.
>>>
>>>Is this independent thought or are you trying to placate your earlier
>>>foot in mouth insertion?
>>>
>>>> For example; When we are having a
>>>> heart transplant, or taking medicine for our own health benefit and
>>>> life, There we are rejecting what god has given us in life.
>>>>         With it being a sin, I think anything that you consider a sin can be
>>>> one. Goodness sake, even taking a shower can be one.
>>>
>>>writting crap and hate against Gods other creatures as well.
>>>
>>>>         Mr. Sandro, in your last paragraph I am a little confused about what
>>>> you meant, "..no one is allowed to seriously write what you wrote."
>>>>         Could you please make it a little bit more clearer. Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>Your coments where mature and as enlightening as a lobotomy.  Maybe the
>>>Romans did have a good think going when they tosed Christians to the
>>>Lions.  If Christianity practiced less hypocrisy and more love, it would
>>>not be the bloodiest relegion on the world.
>>>
>>>
>>>Like god cares what you do behind closed doors............
>>>
>>>P.s. I'm straight but abhore relegious crap like this, filled with
>>>fallacy, hypocricy and lies.



From sbjarnasson@zhid.orgy Sat Nov 14 01:09:43 EST 1998
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On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:57:56 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:50:06 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On 20 Oct 1998 14:46:50 GMT, "firefly" 
>>wrote:
>>
>>>THE CROSS IS NOBODY BUSSINESS< IT IS ON  POLAND LAND
>>>POLAND HAS THE RIGHT TO PUT WHAT THEY WANT  INSIDE
>>>IN THEIR COUNTRY.THIS IS INTERNAL AFFAIR   < IT IS NOT AOUR
>>>AFFAIR.COMPRENDE!!!!
>>
>>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:02 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:05:23, watcher2  wrote:
>>>
>>>>FEATURE-Auschwitz remains troubled ground for Poland
>>>>By Sean Maguire
>>>>Sept. 14, 1998
>>>
>>>>OSWIECIM, Poland (Reuters) - An angry man waving a gasoline can, a barking
>>>>puppy and a teen-age boy guard dozens of wooden crosses erected in a grassy
>>>>pit outside the high brick walls of the former Nazi death camp of Auschwitz. 
>>>
>>>>Kazimierz Switon, a veteran anti-communist and radical Roman Catholic with a
>>>>history of anti-establishment gestures, has threatened to set himself on
>>>>fire if the Polish government tries to remove him and the crosses from the
>>>>sensitive site. 
>>>
>>>>From the bedraggled tent that is home to his campaign he has managed to give
>>>>the government an intractable problem, the latest to dog attempts to better
>>>>Poland's image abroad and improve relations between the country and Jewish
>>>>groups. 
>>>
>>>>``The conflict strikes a blow at Poland's interests and must be resolved as
>>>>swiftly as possible,'' prime ministerial adviser Agnieszka Magdziak
>>>>Miszewska told the Catholic news agency.  ``We are beginning to be perceived
>>>>as anarchistic xenophobes ruled by our emotions,'' she added. 
>>>
>>>>But even if the government quickly secures an eviction order against Switon,
>>>>the affair has stalled efforts to put the management of the Auschwitz
>>>>Birkenau complex on a firm footing and made further conflict over the tragic
>>>>site inevitable. 
>>>
>>>>DO'S AND DONT'S AT AUSCHWITZ 
>>>
>>>>At issue is the definition of what activity is appropriate at a place where
>>>>Nazi forces occupying Poland murdered up to 1.5 million people, 90 percent
>>>>of them Jews, in World War II.  Papal intervention was needed to resolve a
>>>>dispute over the presence of a Carmelite convent, which was moved out, and a
>>>>crisis erupted over plans to put a supermarket near the site. 
>>>
>>>>The presence of any religious symbols at the largest graveyard of European
>>>>Jewry has been a particular irritant since Jewish groups regard them as a
>>>>violation of the commemorative character and dignity of the complex. 
>>>
>>>>Poland's center-right government scored a minor triumph in December when it
>>>>removed unauthorized Stars of David and crosses from the dumping ground for
>>>>human ashes at Birkenau. 
>>>
>>>>A discreet deal between the government and an international Jewish coalition
>>>>to remove a large cross under which Polish-born Pope John Paul prayed in
>>>>1979 came unstuck when press attention caused a nationalist uproar. 
>>>
>>>>Switon's campaign to protect that and other crosses is backed by an informal
>>>>alliance of right-wing clergy, radical worker groups, anti-Semitic skinheads
>>>>and nationalists. 
>>>
>>>>It received initial support from Polish Catholics with memories of Communist
>>>>prohibitions on crosses in public places and from patriots determined that
>>>>national suffering at Auschwitz, where thousands of Poles died, not be
>>>>forgotten. 
>>>
>>>>But Switon's support has ebbed since bishops and the government took the
>>>>compromise position that the papal cross should remain and all new crosses
>>>>be removed. 
>>>>
>>>>A U.S-led international Jewish coalition, which has broken off dialogue with
>>>>Poland until the new crosses are taken down, is unlikely to accept the papal
>>>>cross as a permanent presence. That issue, the presence of a church in an
>>>>old Nazi building near Birkenau and a recent decision to allow a parking lot
>>>>and shop near Auschwitz are the next obstacles to be negotiated. 
>>>>
>>>>``The cross is a major problem,'' said Ralph Grunewald of the Holocaust
>>>>Memorial Museum in Washington. ``I don't know the answer but the cross, all
>>>>religious symbols, all post-period elements should be the subject of behind-
>>>>the-scene discussion.'' 
>>>>
>>>>``We have to remove all the crosses that were put up to provoke the Jewish
>>>>community,'' said presidential advisor Marek Siwiec, ``But I don't see any
>>>>chance to have a serious and moderate discussion about the papal cross at
>>>>the moment.'' 
>>>
>>>>POLISH DESIRE FOR DIALOGUE 
>>>
>>>>Polish officials are irritated that the Switon affair has stymied efforts to
>>>>sign a deal that would take the future of Auschwitz-Birkenau out of the
>>>>political arena. Mindful of its campaign to join NATO and the European Union
>>>>and anxious to expiate the guilt of a 1946 pogrom and an anti-Semitic
>>>>campaign in 1968, authorities have been working to improve ties with Israel
>>>>and the Jewish diaspora. 
>>>
>>>>President Alexander Kwasniewski proposed a renovation, preservation and
>>>>education program in 1996 and the state began work on costly local
>>>>improvement schemes that also benefited the adjacent run-down town of
>>>>Oswiecim. But a grander plan for the bleak sites in southwestern Poland, and
>>>>international funding, are on hold. 
>>>
>>>>The ambitious plan includes linking Auschwitz more directly to Birkenau, two
>>>>miles away. Birkenau, built explicitly as an extermination center and where
>>>>most Jews died, is harder to get to and visited less frequently. 
>>>
>>>>A new walkway could join the two sites, passing by the ``Judenrampe,'' the
>>>>railway siding where most of the Jews arriving from across Europe were
>>>>offloaded, which is now neglected and overgrown with weeds. The tracks
>>>>directly into Birkenau, familiar from photographs, were built in 1944 for
>>>>Hungarian Jewish transports in the last phase of the extermination campaign. 
>>>
>>>>``No. 1 is to preserve the site,'' said Miles Lerman, chairman of the U.S.
>>>>Holocaust Museum Council. ``We're talking about preserving barbed wire,
>>>>concrete, the crematories.'' 
>>>
>>>>A new visitors' center, educational efforts, a better defined protection
>>>>zone, ground rules for what commercial activity is permissible nearby and an
>>>>internationally accountable management board are also on the agenda. 
>>>
>>>>Despite the frosty climate the government has high hopes for a new law
>>>>taking all Nazi German camps on Polish territory out of local authority
>>>>control, meeting objections that they are sometimes managed parochially. The
>>>>law will cover camps where Polish political prisoners died and where
>>>>Hitler's troops implemented the ``Final Solution,'' wiping out most of
>>>>Poland's pre-war 3.3 million Jewish population. 
>>>
>>>>``I hope this law will be accepted by the main Jewish circles because its
>>>>absence was previously a barrier to creating dialogue,'' said Agnieszka
>>>>Magdziak-Miszewska. 
>>>
>>>>But officials accept that, despite good will and improving relations,
>>>>Polish- Jewish dialogue is still vulnerable. 
>>>
>>>>``We have to live with the fact that protests and controversies will be with
>>>>us for a long time,'' said Stanislaw Krajewski, a leader of Poland's tiny
>>>>Jewish community.
>>



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On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:10:36 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 20:29:58 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:14:31 -0800, Chris Dollmont 
>>wrote:
>>>intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
>>
>>>> : someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>> : : In Edmonton Canada, JEWS forced the removal of the Cross from the
>>>> : : Cenotaph, commemmorating Remembrance Day.
>>
>>>> Actually it is anti Christian for the Jews to have our cross removed.
>>>> Grosvenor is merely pointing out the atrocity and sacrilege caused by the
>>>> Jews in desecrating our Remembrance day.
>>
>>>The Jews did not have the cross removed from the cenotaph! The only place
>>>that happened was in the mind of one William Grosvenor. Here are the facts:
>>>
>>>1) The cross was removed from the cenotaph.
>>>2) The removal was an attempt to make the cenotaph less 'religious' and open
>>>to more groups.
>>>3) Although Grosvenor fingers Len Dolgoy, the newspaper articles that he
>>>(mis)cites clearly state that, while Dolgoy did bring the matter up, he made
>>>no formal complaint.
>>
>>The Edmonton Journal in interviewing the JEW Dolgoy, quote him as
>>stating that he DID complain.
>>>
>>>Personally, I feel that the removal of the cross is wrong.
>>
>>All Christians are outraged about this one more attempt by the cursed
>>JEWs to desecrate the symbol not only for all the millions of
>>Christians who died, but to desecrate Remembrance Day!!!
>>[File: C:\Program Files\Netscape\files\cenotaph.txt]



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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:28:11 GMT, kengoyvay@nazikor.zhid.orgy wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:01:08 -0600, Ed Kadach 
>wrote:
>
>>>Hitler's Jewish Army
>>>
>>>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>>>speaking of World War Two.
>>>
>>>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing what
>>>was going on and made no attempt to save (lives),
>>>well then that is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier,
>>>director of the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>>>
>>>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called
>>>'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf
>>>Hitler's knowledge and approval.
>>>
>>>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including
>>>two field marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight
>>>lieutenant generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to
>>>100,000 troops."
>>>
>>>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded
>>>Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's
>>>Cross.
>>>
>>>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain
>>>and practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>>>
>>>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish
>>>identity circulated widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>>>
>>>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>birth record and when met with protests about having a
>>>Jew in the Nazi high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew
>>>and who is an Aryan.''
>>>
>>>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time,
>>>who was in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>>>
>>>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted
>>>by a German officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj.
>>>Ernst Bloch, whose father was a Jew.
>>>
>>>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police
>>>(Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards
>>>(kapos).
>>>
>>>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews,
>>>when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle
>>>against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>>>
>>>Sources:
>>>
>>>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>>>
>>>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>>>
>>>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.



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Is this any less fraudulent than the Neil Sher case in the USA???


Isn't this the same JEW charged with perjury in connection with the
Demjanjuk case???


On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:29:13 GMT, Stefan Lemieszewski
 wrote:

>The following forwarded CP article is posted at  the Ukrainian Archive
>website under the caption "Neal Sher should be sent packing" at:
>
>www.ukar.org
>
>Neal Sher headed the U.S. Office of Special Investigations (OSI) of the
>U.S. Department of Justice for many years. Recently, he was hired as a
>consultant by Anne McLellan, the Canadian Justice Minister.
>
>Stefan Lemieszewski
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>April 28, 1998
>
>U.S. Nazi hunter admits he's under investigation for perjury
>
>OTTAWA (CP) — A top Nazi hunter hired to help Canada pursue suspected
>war criminals is
>under investigation for perjury by the Justice Department in the United
>States.
>
>     Neal Sher, a Washington lawyer, told the Commons justice committee
>Wednesday that he
>is being investigated by the Office of Professional Responsibility, a
>unit of the U.S. Justice Department that handles complaints about
>attorneys.
>
>     The allegations date back to 1990 when Sher was director of the
>U.S. Office of Special Investigations, which is responsible for hunting
>Nazi war criminals in the United States.
>
>     The office has been accused of withholding evidence that might have
>been helpful to the case of Andrija Artukovic, a California resident who
>was extradited to Yugoslavia for war crimes during the Second World
>War.  Sher said he has been assured that the allegations against him are
>groundless, but no official verdict has been rendered.
>
>     John Sims, assistant deputy attorney general, said he was not aware
>of the investigation when he hired Sher as a consultant to help the
>federal government track down war criminals.
>
>     Sims said he found out about it a couple of days ago from a
>colleague in his department.  He said he has not mentioned the fact to
>Solicitor General Andy Scott.
>
>     Sher was summoned to appear before the committee at the request of
>members who say they have been hearing concerns about his role and
>background.
>
>     Conservative MP Peter MacKay said Sher should be dismissed from his
>job advising the federal Justice Department.
>
>     "It's a little shocking to think that somebody that is being relied
>on heavily by the Canadian government is himself under investigation for
>potential — and I key on the word potential — frauds perpetrated on the
>court," said McKay, a former Crown attorney.
>
>     "It comes as a bit of a disappointment that the Canadian government
>didn't do their research first and have that knowledge themselves.  I
>think he should be paid for his advice and sent packing."
>
>     Reform MP Jack Ramsay said he was surprised at Sher's statement
>that allegations against him are unfounded.
>
>     "What I found interesting is that investigation is not over and yet
>he knows the results of it at least in part."
>
>     Sims said Sher is working for the Justice Department two or three
>days a month and gets paid $200 US per hour.  He said Sher's advice has
>been helpful.
>
>     Much of the Sher's testimony before the committee dealt with his
>role in the extradition from the United States of John Demjanjuk, who
>was accused of being a Nazi death camp guard known as Ivan the Terrible.
>
>     Demjanjuk was eventually acquitted of war-crimes charges in Israel
>and returned to Ohio.
>
>     Sher conceded there were errors in the handling of the case.  The
>Canadian Jewish Conference issued a statement Wednesday strongly
>endorsing Sher's engagement as a consultant.
>
>     "Examining the totality of Mr. Sher's career at the Office of
>Special Investigations and after reveals a record of outstanding success
>and energy in bringing alleged Nazi war criminals to the bar of
>justice," the statement said.
>

On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:42:33 -0500, "Saabirah" 
wrote:

>
>Ibrahim Dughlas-Gani wrote in message ...
>>
>>brother Ali, you should stop posting Neo-Nazi literature to usenet.  As a
>>Muslim, you should have nothing to do with evil right wing scum.  Zionism
>>itself may be evil, but Nazism and it's revived offspring are even worse.
>>
>Agreed.
>
>waSalaam
>
>Saabirah
>



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On Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:41:05 GMT, golem88@gehenna.org wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:54:23 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 05:38:17 GMT, nails@pacific.net.SPAMMERSDIE.sg
>>(Ken!!!) wrote:
>>>there are idiot jews and there are idiot anti-jews...
>>>
>>>what is scary is the number if idiots willing to listen to these 2
>>>factions of idiots and promote violence...
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:11:56 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>
>>>>Those who wish to support the Christkillers, the cursed JEWS, also
>>>>wish to rewrite history.
>>
>>>>They do not want the present survivors around the world to remember
>>>>that 100 million have been killed in the last 80 years by the JEW-led
>>>>communists!! This is well documented in the recently released book in
>>>>France.
>>
>>Quite apart from the more than 30 million people massacred by the
>>JEW-led soviets in the 1930's in the Ukraine.
>
>
>From someone@somewhere.com Thu Nov 13 07:29:56 1997
>
>Subject: OyVay Admits JEW COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>
>
>The key reason OyVay and NAZIKOR/NIZKOR refuse to discuss the 66
>Questions about the HOLOHOAX, is because they must hide the truth
>about the more than 100 MILLIONS the JEW-led communists have murdered,
>in less than 80 years!!!!
>
>
>On 12 Nov 1997 01:51:13 GMT, rwhita8200@aol.com (RWhita8200) wrote:
>
>>>Subject: COMMUNISTS KILLED 100 MILLION PEOPLE!
>>>From: alangrist@aol.com (ALAN GRIST)
>>>Date: Mon, Nov 10, 1997 18:15 EST
>
>>>French writers row over "communism killed l00m" claim
>>>            FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN PARIS
>
>>>A BOOK by a team of French historians,  described  as  the
>>>first global accounting of the victims of communism, has
>>>estimated that in this century Communist dictators, regimes
>>>and  movements  have been responsible for the deaths of
>>>up to 100 million people.
>
>>> The 850-page Black Book of Communism - Crimes, Terror  
>>>and  Repression,  by  11 senior French researchers and
>>>published  to  coincide  with yesterday's 80th anniversary
>>>of the Bolshevik Revolution, has triggered a fresh ideologi-
>>>cal battle.
>
>>>The writers have come up with  a  final  estimate  that
>>>communism claimed about 65 million  lives  in  China,  20
>>>million in the Soviet Union, two million in Cambodia, two
>>>million in North Korea,  1.7 Million in Africa, one million
>>>in  Vietnam,  one million in Eastern Europe and 150,000 in
>>>South America. 
>
>>>In a polemical introduction, Stephane Courtois, the chief
>>>editor and co-ordinator of the project,  argued  that  mass 
>>>murder and terror have been central characteristics of com-
>>>munism. "The facts are stubborn," he writes. "They show that 
>>>the Communist regimes committed crimes against   about  100  million
>>>people, compared to about 25 million for the Nazis."   
>>> Some of M Courtois's fellow authors  however, have taken
>>>issue  both  with his  highly charged conclusions and with
>
>>   But there's no MONEY in these victims of Communism, so who cares?
>>
>>Bob Whitaker
>
>
>And do not ever FORGET, that the communists were mainly damn JEWS!!!!
>
>



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On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 16:03:23 GMT, sbjarnasson88@nazikor.zhid.orgy
wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:42:53 GMT, koyvay@nazikor.orgy wrote:

>>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>
>>Here  is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>
>>The Kastner Case
>>
>>                              
>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>
>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>are generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy'
>>about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for
>>money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated'
>>by the Supreme Court of Israel.
>>
>>                              The Accusations
>>
>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>
>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
>>Herald, he wrote:
>>
>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>
>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>silence.
>>
>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
>>exterminations.
>>
>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>
>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
>>With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>>when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben
>>Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)
>>
>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>
>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
>>operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
>>elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
>>negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
>>them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
>>Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>>lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
>>resisting deportation - and even keep order in the collection camps -
>>if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
>>Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>
>>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
>>not too high for me.
>>
>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
>>case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
>>and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>
>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>
>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>>goal 'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by
>>helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups
>>escape. After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand
>>or so Jews...That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner
>>(Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>of  Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a
>>prominent Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the
>>Ministry of Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of
>>the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>>                                The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court
>>of Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>
>>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence  in the false information that they were being transferred
>>to Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to
>>mislead the Jews.
>>
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to
>>overpower these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance
>>activities to the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish
>>leaders who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
>>community in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the
>>Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
>>Council in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends.
>>The Nazis did this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom
>>they favoured, dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good
>>will during the time of its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the
>>Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish leaders into collaboration with
>>the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>chiefs
>>.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the
>>S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the
>>Jews.
>>
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as
>>a great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success
>>that would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with
>>Nazis and the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents,
>>whom the Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the
>>great majority or Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death,
>>on the other hand.
>>
>>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis
>>was that Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against
>>the other camp and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner
>>fulfilled this condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of
>>the prominents and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had
>>already been wiped out from the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are
>>not only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in
>>the border area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the
>>chief of their rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted
>>quickly to another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case
>>124/53; Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court,
>>Jerusalem, June 22,1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Ka