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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:19:22 GMT, masa@radiotelephone.net.PAS_DE_SPAM
(Masataka Noda) wrote:

>De Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:49:09 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org a écrit
>dans le message:
>
>>Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
>>full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.
>
>>They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
>>THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
>
>>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>
>Please give us a full detail of statement of defence (?) filed by
>Canada Post.  I believe it's available for public.      Stealing one's
>property is a criminal activity.,,,

Their Statement of defence was as indicated!!!

_Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

__________________________________________________________________
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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:19:22 GMT, masa@radiotelephone.net.PAS_DE_SPAM
(Masataka Noda) wrote:

>De Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:49:09 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org a écrit
>dans le message:
>
>>Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
>>full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.
>
>>They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
>>THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
>
>>No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
>>STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!
>
>Please give us a full detail of statement of defence (?) filed by
>Canada Post.  I believe it's available for public.      Stealing one's
>property is a criminal activity.,,,

Their Statement of defence was as indicated!!!

_Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!

__________________________________________________________________
>Masataka Noda (Infinite Communications (TM)), Montréal, Québec, Canada
>N° d' ICQ: 15115035
>Indicatif d'appel de radioamateur: VA2QRU & VE7JPN
>Pilote Avion Privé(avec la qualification de vol de nuit)
>Étudient @ météorologie, physique et l'environnement d'Université McGill
>CÉ: masa@radiotelephone.net.PAS_DE_SPAM
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From sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org Thu Oct  1 15:27:58 EDT 1998
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Will the US now be able to use the payoff to the bankrupt Canadian
insurance company, Confederation Life, as the legal precedent to make
Sherritt pay for the theft of the assets of freeport-McMoran??

>On Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:27:39 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:

>>It seems that the payoff to the bankrupt Canuck insurance company, now
>>sets a legal precedent for Freeport McMoran to collect both from
>>Sherritt, and the Cuban government in the World Court.

>>This should create some interesting situations vis a vis the
>>Canadian/US relations, what???



>>On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:40:12 GMT, oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:

>>>Cubans, and Canadian taxpayers also, want to know why did Fidel Castro
>>>give Jean Cretin the C$12 Million, as settlement for Confederation
>>>Life Insurance??

>>>Did Fidel not know that Confederation Life had been BANKRUPT FOR MANY
>>>YEARS??

>>>Who is actually getting the $12 million - crooks in Canada, or in
>>>Cuba??

>>>Do the people at Freeport-McMoran now know about this deal, which will
>>>now help them when they go to the World Court to collect their
>>>reparations??

>>>After all, if there is a precedent for a Canadian firm, this can then
>>>be used to collect by a US firm!!!!

>>>It seems that the Cubans got swindled by some Canadian crooks????

On 8 Jul 1998 14:46:25 GMT, ricardoag@aol.com (Ricardoag) wrote:

> 
>Wednesday, July 8, 1998 
>
>Helms won't let Sherritt off the hook 
>
>By PETER MORTON 
>Washington Bureau Chief The Financial Post 
> Sherritt International Corp. and other foreign companies now in Cuba are
>playing a pivotal role in whether a U.S.-European Union deal on investment on
>the island will be approved by Congress, industry and government sources say. 
> Senator Jesse Helms, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is
>demanding Toronto-based Sherritt and other companies already swept up by the
>Helms-Burton law continue to be punished, sources said yesterday. 
> "Sherritt is seen as the poster boy of Helms-Burton and Helms does not want to
>see Sherritt off the hook," said one industry source close to the U.S.-EU
>negotiations. 
> Helms is worried the deal signed by the U.S. and the EU in May would
>essentially "immunize" Sherritt and others operating on expropriated property
>since any new penalties imposed by the U.S. would be only on investment in Cuba
>since then, the source said. 
> "In fact, under the final text of the understanding, a current investor would
>even retain the right to pass this property to another EU investor who, in
>turn, could use this stolen property in perpetuity ­ all with the blessing of
>the U.S. government," Helms and Benjamin Gilman, chairman of the House
>Committee on International Relations, said in a June 17 letter to Secretary of
>State Madeline Albright. 
> Sherritt is the largest single foreign investor in property in Cuba
>expropriated by President Fidel Castro in 1959. It is mining nickel on property
>formerly owned by Freeport-McMoRan Inc. of New Orleans. 
> So far, Sherritt is the one of two foreign companies to be swept up in
>Helms-Burton. Its executives, along with those from an Israeli fruit company,
>have been barred from entering the U.S. under the Helms-Burton law. No European
>companies have fallen under Helms-Burton. 
> EU Trade Commissioner Sir Leon Brittan said yesterday there is no chance the
>deal would be re-negotiated to meet Helms's concerns. 
> "We're not agreeable to modifying the agreement," he said. 
> The EU is waiting for the U.S. Congress to approve the pact, although Brittan
>said he did not receive any indication on when legislation would even be
>presented to Congress. 
> The proposed U.S.-EU deal would give President Bill Clinton the right to waive
>that part of Helms-Burton, called Title III. He has already waived Title IV,
>the section that would allow U.S. companies and citizens to sue foreign
>companies for operating on what was once their property in Cuba. There are
>5,911 U.S.-recognized claims and lawsuits could be expected to reach billions
>of dollars. 
> The agreement would also enable European companies to invest in Iran and Libya
>if the EU ensured the two countries' terrorism campaigns were not being
>supported. 
> So far, Ottawa has not signed on to the proposed deal, insisting it is still
>looking into the complex agreement, said Leslie Swartman, a spokeswoman for
>Trade Minister Sergio Marchi. 
> But Canadian government sources said what happens to Sherritt is a key
>consideration in whether the federal government would go along with the U.S.-EU
>agreement, try to negotiate a separate deal with the U.S. or simply stay away. 
> "There is no doubt Sherritt is one consideration," an official said. 
> The EU agreed not only not to fund any private venture on confiscated property
>in Cuba nor on confiscated property anywhere in the world, something Helms is
>looking for, said Robert Muse, a Washington lawyer specializing in Cuba. 
> "Jesse Helms wants to see such an agreement reached," he said. 
>  
>
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On 30 Sep 1998 09:53:56 GMT, sergio.calderon@worldnet.att.net (Sergio
Calderon) wrote:

>Sherritt Shares Fall on Castro's Nickel Comments
>
>  Reuters           29-SEP-98
>
>               TORONTO, Sept 29 (Reuters) - Shares in Sherritt
>International Corp. fell more than 5 percent on Tuesday after Cuban
>President Fidel Castro hinted the Caribbean island might halt nickel
>production because of low world prices. 
>
>               Castro said Cuba's nickel export revenues, a crucial
>source of foreign income for the struggling communist nation, were
>barely covering production costs due to sluggish metals markets. 
>
>               He did not give any production or revenue figures. 
>
>               "The prices for producing countries of basic products
>have collapsed-- aluminum, copper and nickel-- which affects us a
>bit," Castro said at a congress of pro-government neighbourhood groups
>in Havana. 
>
>               "Nickel is half the price of a few years ago, (we are)
>scarcely producing the costs, (we are) producing to recover costs."
>Nickel traded at $1.82 a pound on the London Metal Exchange on
>Tuesday, down from a 1997-high of $3.72 a pound. 
>
>               Castro's remarks added to growing market speculation
>that Cuba nickel sector officials were considering a possible
>temporary scaling-back of output in response to high production costs
>and low export prices. 
>
>               Shares of Toronto-based Sherritt, which operates a
>joint venture nickel mine at Moa in the northwestern part of the
>island, slipped C$0.21 to close at C$3.49 on the Toronto Stock
>Exchange on Tuesday. 
>
>               Sherritt produced 13,588 tonnes of contained nickel and
>cobalt in the first half of 1998 at Moa Bay. 
>
>               The company brushed aside the possibility of a nickel
>shutdown in Cuba, branding the idea "hypothetical". 
>
>               "There isn't anybody who is a producer of commodities
>these days that is not looking at exactly the sort of factors that he
>(Castro) has mentioned whether it is costs or capacity. So I think
>that is just a good market observation," Sherritt spokeswoman Patrice
>Merrin Best said. 
>
>               Analysts, however, speculated that the costs of mining
>nickel, even in Cuba, could be too burdensome at current prices. 
>
>               "The whole nickel market has taken a bath. If Sherritt
>is running a relatively high-cost operation in Cuba, it's probably
>starting to look a little marginal at these levels. I wouldn't be
>surprised," said Conor Bill, director of retail trading at
>ScotiaMcLeod in Toronto. 
>
>               Sherritt is one of Cuba's largest foreign investors and
>has drawn the wrath of anti-Castro activists in the United States who
>want to tighten a four-decades-old embargo on trade with the country. 
>
>               ($1=$1.51 Canadian) 
>
>         Copyyright 1998 Reuters Limited.All rights reserved. 



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On 30 Sep 1998 13:36:14 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

X-NO-ARCHIVE:YES

On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>
>>DAILY MAIL
>>Monday June 15 1998
>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>
>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>to clear his name.
>>
>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>to examine their records.
>>
>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>with the family.
>>
>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>
>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>end of this month.
>>
>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>Britain today.'
>>
>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
-88-


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On 30 Sep 1998 13:36:14 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

X-NO-ARCHIVE:YES

On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>
>>DAILY MAIL
>>Monday June 15 1998
>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>
>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>to clear his name.
>>
>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>to examine their records.
>>
>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>with the family.
>>
>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>
>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>end of this month.
>>
>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>Britain today.'
>>
>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
-88-


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On 30 Sep 1998 13:36:14 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

X-NO-ARCHIVE:YES

On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>
>>DAILY MAIL
>>Monday June 15 1998
>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>
>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>to clear his name.
>>
>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>to examine their records.
>>
>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>with the family.
>>
>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>
>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>end of this month.
>>
>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>Britain today.'
>>
>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
-88-


From gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org Thu Oct  1 15:30:44 EDT 1998
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From: gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org
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On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 02:06:33 +0100, "donoli" 
wrote:

>
>Heatwave wrote in message
><19980922152752.25018.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com>...
>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>Hash: SHA1
>>
>>That's right, you arse holes out there I own the nickname Heatwave.
>>Nobody can use this name. I and only I can use it, you hear!! Anybody
>>trying to use this name will get sued.
>>
>>For your information, I have sued two person before for using this
>>name. In both cases I won.  If you don't believe ask anybody in
>>soc.culture.singapore how I smash their arse all over the high court
>>in Singapore.
>>
>>All my postings are PGP Signed and so you know I am the real one. All
>>others with the name Heatwave are fake!
>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
>>Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3i for non-commercial use 
>>
>>iQA/AwUBNgfAiR4Drt7UcFeHEQKZXwCgtIMLfIdWr/r8XTs3OOqNByGip3UAoKdb
>>jPB7t4hhtNQo5sC7Bw1Ijbv7
>>=+Ogj
>>-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
>Who gives a fuck?  It will take you 3 years to sue someone in New York for
>some dumg shit like that.  Donoli.


Quite apart from the fact that the USA allows freedom of expression,
and Singapore law does not apply in the freedom-loving USA!!!


Owning a nickname,indeed!!!

Perhaps everyone outside Singapore should use the names heatwave and
blurblur, and then mailbomb the original cretin???



From sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org Thu Oct  1 15:30:44 EDT 1998
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Muslim nations seem to have more sense and respect for normal humans,
than do the degenerate JEW run countries.

The only good faggot is a cremated one, whether dead or otherwise!!!

Immolate yourself, and then try to talk, if you can comprehend.


On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:00:05 +0700, Bigger 
wrote:

>Who gives a shite about major religions now? They are expiring in a couple of years
>and already smell.
>
>We got no time to make our way through 640 pages of crap. Check
>http://www.virusmyth.com for the truth about HIV/AIDS! Provided that your English is
>good enough to get beyond the front page.
>
>In the most advanced countries of the world: in Northern Europe, Northern America,
>Australia and NZ homosexuality is largely tolerated and even homosexual marriages,
>children adoption and many other issues are legalised.
>
>How much longer will M'sia and S'pore stick with an obviously outdated British law
>that is renounced and abolished by the British themselves? Scavenging on others'
>legal excrement won't do you any good!
>
>Knowing a smattering of manufacturing and finance does NOT make you an advanced or
>developed nation. High time to change your obsolete mentality and step forward in
>the human evolution.
>
>
>
>gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:27:56 GMT, subir.k.de@mail.sprint.com wrote:
>>
>> >ehooi97@pc.jaring.my wrote:
>> >> I respect your opinion but as you see, such act is against our Eastern as
>> >> well as Islamic culture especially in Malaysia which is considered an Islamic
>> >> country. Even other religions like Buddhism, Christianity & others prohibits
>> >> such act of the gays & lesbians.
>> >
>> >> Therefore, it is not appropriate to allow such homosexual conduct to be
>> >> allowed in Malaysia.
>>
>> Not only are the perverted criminal activities of faggots condemned by
>> all major religions, but it is well documented that AIDS was spread
>> worldwide by faggots!!!
>>
>> Read the documentary book of 640 pages entitled "AND THE BAND PLAYED
>> ON".
>>
>> It gives all the specifics about how AIDS was deliberately spread
>> worldwide by the criminal perverts.
>>
>> The only good faggot is a cremated one!!!
>> >
>> >Well, when I was growing up in my small town, people were much more tolerant
>> >of homosexuals. They were considered more of an oddity, more of a source of
>> >amusamusement, rather than the currently fashionable subject of National
>> >Morality Scrutiny.
>> >
>> >There can be no persecution of homosexuals under the pretext of 'appropriate
>> >behaviour'.
>> >
>> >     Subir De.
>> >
>> >-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
>> >http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp   Create Your Own Free Member Forum
>
>



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On 30 Sep 1998 13:36:14 -0700, kmcvay@nanaimo.island.net (Ken McVay)
wrote:

X-NO-ARCHIVE:YES

On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>
>>DAILY MAIL
>>Monday June 15 1998
>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>
>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>to clear his name.
>>
>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>to examine their records.
>>
>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>with the family.
>>
>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>
>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>end of this month.
>>
>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>Britain today.'
>>
>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
-88-


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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:29:42 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>>
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>>>>>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>>>
>>>>Her is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>>>
>>>>The Kastner Case
>>>>
>>>>                              
>>>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>>>involving
>>>>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>>>
>>>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>>>are
>>>>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>>>>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money
>>>>and
>>>>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the
>>>>Supreme
>>>>Court of Israel.
>>>>
>>>>                              The Accusations
>>>>
>>>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>>>Medical
>>>>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>>>>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>>>certain
>>>>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>>>
>>>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>>>silence.
>>>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>>>Jews
>>>>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>>>number is
>>>>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>>>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>>>was
>>>>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>>>Eichmann
>>>>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>>>>went
>>>>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>>>>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>>>
>>>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>>>took
>>>>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>>>bargaining
>>>>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>>>little
>>>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>>>>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>>>>pp261-2)
>>>>
>>>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>>>published in
>>>>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>>>
>>>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>>>stands
>>>>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>>>>wanted
>>>>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>>>was a
>>>>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>>>>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>>>keep
>>>>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>>>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>>>It
>>>>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not
>>>>too
>>>>high for me.
>>>>
>>>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>>>smoke
>>>>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>>>>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>>>he
>>>>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>>>of
>>>>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>>>
>>>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>>>thousand
>>>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You
>>>>can
>>>>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>>>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>>>deportation
>>>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>>>>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>>>
>>>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>>>of 
>>>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>>>
>>>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>>>
>>>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>>>than
>>>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>>>Zionist
>>>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>>>
>>>>                                The Verdict
>>>>
>>>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>>>panel
>>>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>>>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>>>The
>>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>>>studied
>>>>carefully.
>>>>
>>>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>>>confidence
>>>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>>>Kenyermeze.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>>>they
>>>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>>>
>>>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>>>others
>>>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>>>Jews.
>>>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>>>of
>>>>Jewish leaders.
>>>>
>>>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>>>leaders
>>>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>>>spreading
>>>>such false information and did not protest.
>>>>
>>>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>>>
>>>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>>>hampering
>>>>the deportation orders.
>>>>
>>>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>>>dozen
>>>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>>>these few
>>>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>>>
>>>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>>>Jews in
>>>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>>>
>>>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>>>their
>>>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>>>who
>>>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>>>deportations...these
>>>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>>>to
>>>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>>>extermination
>>>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>>>Budapest
>>>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>>>as a
>>>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>>>dependent on
>>>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>>>fatal
>>>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>>>Jewish
>>>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>>>catastrophe.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>>>Jewry
>>>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>>>
>>>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>>>task
>>>>easier.
>>>>
>>>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>>>
>>>>chiefs.
>>>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>>>underground.
>>>>
>>>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>>>Nazis
>>>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>>>Rescue
>>>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>>>
>>>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>>>these
>>>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>>>
>>>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>>>friends
>>>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>>>annihilation.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>>>six
>>>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>>>to him
>>>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>>>great
>>>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>>>would
>>>>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>>>the
>>>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>>>
>>>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>>>soul to
>>>>the German Satan.
>>>>
>>>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>>>order
>>>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>>>between
>>>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>>>into
>>>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>>>promised
>>>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>>>Jews
>>>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>>>Kastner
>>>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>>>and
>>>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>>>and
>>>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>>>from
>>>>the book of the living.
>>>>
>>>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>>>put
>>>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>>>only
>>>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>>>
>>>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>>>to
>>>>evade this truth.
>>>>
>>>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>>>wall
>>>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>>>to
>>>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>>>June 22,
>>>>1955).
>>>>
>>>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>>>'new
>>>>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>>>
>>>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>>>
>>>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>>>Jews.
>>>>
>>>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>>>of
>>>>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>>>criminals.
>>>>
>>>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>>>Kastner
>>>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>>>
>>>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>>>Kastner's
>>>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>>>
>>>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>>>the
>>>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>>>
>>>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>>>were
>>>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>>>
>>>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>>>
>>>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>>>when
>>>>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>>>the
>>>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>>>
>>>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>>>defense to
>>>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>>>remove
>>>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>>>
>>>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>>>criminal.
>>>>
>>>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>>>testimony
>>>>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>>>minute
>>>>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>>>truth -
>>>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>>>
>>>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>>>stood up
>>>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>>>the
>>>>affidavit.
>>>>
>>>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>>>but to
>>>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>>>good
>>>>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>>>>intention of good Becher'.
>>>>
>>>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>>>his
>>>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>>>World
>>>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>>>exaggerate
>>>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>>>personal
>>>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>>>contradictions
>>>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>>>faith
>>>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's
>>>>affidavit
>>>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>>>war
>>>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>>>
>>>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>>>his
>>>>statements." 
>>>>
>>>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>>>libel
>>>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>>>ordered
>>>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>>>as
>>>>court costs.
>>>>
>>>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>>>pointed to
>>>>much more than that.
>>>>
>>>>But the story does not end there.
>>>> 
>>>>The Reaction
>>>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>>>know now
>>>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>>>>
>>>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>>>Government of Israel.
>>>>
>>>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>>>
>>>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>>>
>>>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>>>instead
>>>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>>>libel.
>>>>
>>>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>>>government
>>>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>>>What
>>>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>>>appeal on
>>>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>>>
>>>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>>>of
>>>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>>>was
>>>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>>>
>>>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>>>National
>>>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>>>in
>>>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>>>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>>>
>>>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>>>was
>>>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>>>leadership.
>>>>
>>>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>>>But
>>>>the story gets worse.
>>>>
>>>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>>>
>>>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>>>the 
>>>>name 
>>>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>>>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
>>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>>
>>>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>>>court -
>>>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>>
>>>>                        
>>>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>>>these
>>>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>>>found
>>>>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>>>Greenwald of
>>>>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>>>>
>>>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>>>the
>>>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>>>prove
>>>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>>>
>>>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>>>Kastner.
>>>>They joined him.
>>>>
>>>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>>>Chesin:
>>>>
>>>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>>>Kluj,
>>>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>>>end of
>>>>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>>>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>>>vivid
>>>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>>>any
>>>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>>>Budapest,
>>>>protocol 465).
>>>>
>>>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>>>Jews
>>>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>>>neither
>>>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>>>the
>>>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>>>properly
>>>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>>>
>>>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>>>when
>>>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>>>from
>>>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>>>Even
>>>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>>>say
>>>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>>>Jews
>>>>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>>>plan to
>>>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>>>
>>>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>>>the
>>>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>>>is not
>>>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>>>its
>>>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>>>his
>>>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>>>disclose
>>>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>>>everybody
>>>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>>>blood of
>>>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>>>with
>>>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>>>District
>>>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>>>his
>>>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>>>at.
>>>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>>>extermination
>>>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>>>from a
>>>>moral and public point of view...
>>>>
>>>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>>>who
>>>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>>>one
>>>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>>>Marton,
>>>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>>>hour of
>>>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>>>warn
>>>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>>>
>>>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>>>Court
>>>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>>>Hungary
>>>>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>>>
>>>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>>>Hungarian
>>>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>>>many
>>>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>>>knowledge of
>>>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>>>train for Palestine.
>>>>
>>>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>>>
>>>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>>>Silberg:
>>>>
>>>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>>>the
>>>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>>>a
>>>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>>>here
>>>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>>>guilt of others....
>>>>
>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>>>an
>>>>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>>>of
>>>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>>>few -
>>>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>>>collaborating
>>>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>>>though, in
>>>>fact, he brought about its result.'
>>>>
>>>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>>>such
>>>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>>>cooperation
>>>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>>>decisive
>>>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>>>the
>>>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>>>able
>>>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>>>concealment of
>>>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>>>etc. -
>>>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>>>certainty
>>>>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>>>rescue
>>>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>>>he
>>>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>>>of the
>>>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>>>as
>>>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>>>a
>>>>claim of such good faith...
>>>>
>>>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>>>die
>>>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>>>come
>>>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>>>individual
>>>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>>>patients. He
>>>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>>>
>>>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>>>complete
>>>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>>>operation
>>>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>>>
>>>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>>>was
>>>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>>>Kastner
>>>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>>>this
>>>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>>>to the
>>>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>>>the
>>>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>>>and
>>>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>>>the
>>>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>>>resisting
>>>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>>>activity.
>>>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>>>
>>>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>>>
>>>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>>>revolts,
>>>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>>>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>>>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>>>of
>>>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>>>which
>>>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>>>
>>>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>>>the
>>>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>>>murder.
>>>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>>>>evidence for this.
>>>>
>>>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>>>of
>>>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>>>
>>>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>>>rescuing
>>>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>>>base
>>>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>>>is
>>>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>>>retroactive
>>>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>>>
>>>>                         
>>>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>>>their
>>>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>>>been
>>>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>>>collaboration
>>>>with the Nazis.
>>>>
>>>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>>>
>>>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>>>
>>>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>>>with
>>>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>>>
>>>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>>>gave
>>>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>>>remain
>>>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>>>an
>>>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>>>
>>>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>>>West
>>>>Germany.
>>>>
>>>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>>>the
>>>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>>>pressure
>>>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>>>what
>>>>might come out.
>>>>
>>>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>>>Rescue
>>>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>>>trial .
>>>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>>>the 
>>>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>>>>Palestine.
>>>>
>>>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>>>was
>>>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>>>in
>>>>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>>>1957
>>>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings
>>>>were
>>>>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was
>>>>delivered.
>>>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>>>of the
>>>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>>>>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).
>>
>>



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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, "William Hubbard" 
wrote:

>Strakitch tye golevo!


Should be shta allah aboukir!!!


>bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote in article
><35ff8fb8.1840244@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>> 
>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, "Fenian" < fenian@hibernian.com> wrote:
>> >>morgan@shamrock.com wrote in article
><35995802.2904819@news.nucleus.com>...
>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>> >
>> >>> >>> Shouldn't the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the
>swine???
>> > 
>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower
>than
>> >>> >the feces of swine.

>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!

>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being
>conducted
>> >>> in the Temples.




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On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:09:51 -0800, "((((())))))"
 wrote:

>The Kastner Case
>
>                              
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that involving
>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have, are
>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and
>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the Supreme
>Court of Israel.
>
>                              The Accusations
>
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British Medical
>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
>
>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse certain
>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of silence.
>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all Jews
>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is
>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was
>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann
>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner went
>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and took
>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid bargaining
>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions' published in
>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander stands
>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I wanted
>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a
>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep
>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine. It
>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not too
>high for me.
>
>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would smoke
>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he
>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group of
>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a thousand
>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You can
>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the deportation
>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase of 
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more than
>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>                                The Verdict
>
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the panel
>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953. The
>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be studied
>carefully.
>
>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of confidence
>in the false information that they were being transferred to Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had they
>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and others
>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help of
>Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local leaders
>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were spreading
>such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or hampering
>the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few dozen
>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower these few
>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the Jews in
>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn their
>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders who
>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of deportations...these
>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride to
>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of extermination
>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in Budapest
>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this as a
>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured, dependent on
>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its fatal
>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish
>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in Jewry
>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their task
>easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S. 
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the Nazis
>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish Rescue
>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by these
>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his friends
>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total annihilation.
>
>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save six
>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed to him
>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a great
>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that would
>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and the
>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his soul to
>the German Satan.
>
>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in order
>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement between
>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation into
>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised
>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian Jews
>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that Kastner
>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp and
>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents and
>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out from
>the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and put
>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not only
>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort to
>evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the wall
>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly to
>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
>1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the 'new
>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent of
>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so Kastner
>also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna. Kastner's
>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department, the
>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S. were
>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court when
>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed the
>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the defense to
>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to remove
>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his testimony
>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last minute
>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming truth -
>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never stood up
>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in the
>affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews but to
>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no good
>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>intention of good Becher'.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in his
>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World
>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not exaggerate
>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his personal
>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the contradictions
>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good faith
>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's affidavit
>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a war
>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of his
>statements." 
>
>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of libel
>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also ordered
>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds as
>court costs.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial pointed to
>much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
> 
>The Reaction
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary know now
>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>
>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial, instead
>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the government
>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed. What
>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an appeal on
>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General of
>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel was
>defending Kastner so strongly:
>
>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish National
>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in
>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>(Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration was
>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court. But
>the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a 
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the 
>name 
>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower court -
>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>rehabilitated'.
>
>                        
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging these
>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two, found
>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted Greenwald of
>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>
>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is the
>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that prove
>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate Kastner.
>They joined him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in Kluj,
>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the end of
>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This vivid
>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The Jews
>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable, neither
>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to the
>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can properly
>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner when
>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result from
>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community. Even
>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and say
>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few Jews
>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their plan to
>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission - the
>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question is not
>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting its
>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of his
>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he disclose
>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way everybody
>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the blood of
>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing with
>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish District
>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his
>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both from a
>moral and public point of view...
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people who
>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination, one
>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and Marton,
>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an hour of
>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not warn
>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in Hungary
>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the Hungarian
>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what many
>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their knowledge of
>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is 
>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among the
>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have a
>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing here
>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others....
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into an
>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray of
>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the few -
>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of collaborating
>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even though, in
>fact, he brought about its result.'
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive such
>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in cooperation
>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the decisive
>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of the
>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been able
>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings, concealment of
>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery, etc. -
>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty
>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue
>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he
>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as
>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to a
>claim of such good faith...
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people die
>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will come
>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an individual
>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other patients. He
>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with complete
>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue operation
>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which was
>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then Kastner
>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make this
>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report to the
>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in the
>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue, and
>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed the
>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or resisting
>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>
>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small revolts,
>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs of
>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics which
>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or the
>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>evidence for this.
>
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire of
>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of rescuing
>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't base
>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it is
>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws retroactive
>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>                         
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever their
>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have been
>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate collaboration
>with the Nazis.
>
>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration with
>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner gave
>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to remain
>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with an
>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in West
>Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with the
>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only pressure
>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of what
>might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and Rescue
>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on trial .
>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the 
>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did was
>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership in
>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957
>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were
>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered.
>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the
>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).



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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>reconsidered by thinking readers.

>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org

>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>
>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>Archives:         
>        
>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>         
>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>
>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>       
>         
>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>Government."         
>
>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>
>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>
>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>
>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>
>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>Gordon. 
>
>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>were Jews. 
>
>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>did not take kindly to it." 
>
>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>
>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>4, 1919) 
>	
>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>
>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>himself:
>
>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>virtually untouched.
>
>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>
>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>Communist bosses.
> 
>>Regards,
>>Roger Hughes

>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>                http://www.natvan.com
sven88


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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, "William Hubbard" 
wrote:

>Strakitch tye golevo!


Should be shta allah aboukir!!!


>bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote in article
><35ff8fb8.1840244@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>> 
>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, "Fenian" < fenian@hibernian.com> wrote:
>> >>morgan@shamrock.com wrote in article
><35995802.2904819@news.nucleus.com>...
>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>> >
>> >>> >>> Shouldn't the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the
>swine???
>> > 
>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower
>than
>> >>> >the feces of swine.

>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!

>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being
>conducted
>> >>> in the Temples.




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On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:09:51 -0800, "((((())))))"
 wrote:

>The Kastner Case
>
>                              
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that involving
>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have, are
>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and
>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the Supreme
>Court of Israel.
>
>                              The Accusations
>
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British Medical
>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
>
>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse certain
>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of silence.
>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all Jews
>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is
>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was
>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann
>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner went
>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and took
>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid bargaining
>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions' published in
>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander stands
>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I wanted
>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a
>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep
>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine. It
>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not too
>high for me.
>
>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would smoke
>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he
>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group of
>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a thousand
>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You can
>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the deportation
>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase of 
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more than
>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>                                The Verdict
>
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the panel
>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953. The
>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be studied
>carefully.
>
>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of confidence
>in the false information that they were being transferred to Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had they
>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and others
>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help of
>Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local leaders
>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were spreading
>such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or hampering
>the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few dozen
>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower these few
>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the Jews in
>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn their
>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders who
>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of deportations...these
>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride to
>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of extermination
>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in Budapest
>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this as a
>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured, dependent on
>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its fatal
>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish
>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in Jewry
>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their task
>easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S. 
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the Nazis
>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish Rescue
>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by these
>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his friends
>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total annihilation.
>
>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save six
>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed to him
>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a great
>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that would
>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and the
>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his soul to
>the German Satan.
>
>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in order
>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement between
>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation into
>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised
>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian Jews
>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that Kastner
>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp and
>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents and
>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out from
>the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and put
>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not only
>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort to
>evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the wall
>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly to
>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
>1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the 'new
>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent of
>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so Kastner
>also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna. Kastner's
>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department, the
>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S. were
>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court when
>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed the
>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the defense to
>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to remove
>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his testimony
>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last minute
>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming truth -
>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never stood up
>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in the
>affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews but to
>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no good
>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>intention of good Becher'.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in his
>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World
>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not exaggerate
>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his personal
>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the contradictions
>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good faith
>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's affidavit
>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a war
>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of his
>statements." 
>
>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of libel
>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also ordered
>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds as
>court costs.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial pointed to
>much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
> 
>The Reaction
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary know now
>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>
>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial, instead
>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the government
>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed. What
>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an appeal on
>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General of
>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel was
>defending Kastner so strongly:
>
>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish National
>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in
>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>(Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration was
>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court. But
>the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a 
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the 
>name 
>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower court -
>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>rehabilitated'.
>
>                        
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging these
>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two, found
>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted Greenwald of
>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>
>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is the
>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that prove
>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate Kastner.
>They joined him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in Kluj,
>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the end of
>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This vivid
>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The Jews
>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable, neither
>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to the
>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can properly
>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner when
>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result from
>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community. Even
>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and say
>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few Jews
>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their plan to
>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission - the
>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question is not
>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting its
>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of his
>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he disclose
>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way everybody
>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the blood of
>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing with
>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish District
>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his
>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both from a
>moral and public point of view...
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people who
>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination, one
>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and Marton,
>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an hour of
>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not warn
>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in Hungary
>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the Hungarian
>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what many
>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their knowledge of
>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is 
>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among the
>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have a
>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing here
>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others....
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into an
>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray of
>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the few -
>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of collaborating
>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even though, in
>fact, he brought about its result.'
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive such
>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in cooperation
>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the decisive
>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of the
>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been able
>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings, concealment of
>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery, etc. -
>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty
>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue
>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he
>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as
>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to a
>claim of such good faith...
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people die
>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will come
>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an individual
>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other patients. He
>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with complete
>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue operation
>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which was
>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then Kastner
>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make this
>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report to the
>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in the
>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue, and
>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed the
>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or resisting
>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>
>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small revolts,
>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs of
>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics which
>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or the
>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>evidence for this.
>
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire of
>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of rescuing
>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't base
>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it is
>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws retroactive
>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>                         
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever their
>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have been
>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate collaboration
>with the Nazis.
>
>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration with
>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner gave
>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to remain
>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with an
>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in West
>Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with the
>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only pressure
>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of what
>might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and Rescue
>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on trial .
>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the 
>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did was
>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership in
>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957
>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were
>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered.
>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the
>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).



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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>reconsidered by thinking readers.

>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org

>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>
>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>Archives:         
>        
>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>         
>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>
>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>       
>         
>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>Government."         
>
>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>
>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>
>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>
>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>
>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>Gordon. 
>
>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>were Jews. 
>
>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>did not take kindly to it." 
>
>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>
>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>4, 1919) 
>	
>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>
>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>himself:
>
>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>virtually untouched.
>
>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>
>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>Communist bosses.
> 
>>Regards,
>>Roger Hughes

>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>                http://www.natvan.com
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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:29:42 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>>
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>>>>>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>>>
>>>>Her is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>>>
>>>>The Kastner Case
>>>>
>>>>                              
>>>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>>>involving
>>>>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>>>
>>>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>>>are
>>>>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>>>>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money
>>>>and
>>>>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the
>>>>Supreme
>>>>Court of Israel.
>>>>
>>>>                              The Accusations
>>>>
>>>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>>>Medical
>>>>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>>>>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>>>certain
>>>>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>>>
>>>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>>>silence.
>>>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>>>Jews
>>>>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>>>number is
>>>>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>>>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>>>was
>>>>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>>>Eichmann
>>>>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>>>>went
>>>>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>>>>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>>>
>>>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>>>took
>>>>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>>>bargaining
>>>>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>>>little
>>>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>>>>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>>>>pp261-2)
>>>>
>>>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>>>published in
>>>>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>>>
>>>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>>>stands
>>>>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>>>>wanted
>>>>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>>>was a
>>>>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>>>>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>>>keep
>>>>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>>>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>>>It
>>>>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not
>>>>too
>>>>high for me.
>>>>
>>>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>>>smoke
>>>>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>>>>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>>>he
>>>>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>>>of
>>>>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>>>
>>>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>>>thousand
>>>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You
>>>>can
>>>>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>>>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>>>deportation
>>>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>>>>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>>>
>>>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>>>of 
>>>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>>>
>>>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>>>
>>>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>>>than
>>>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>>>Zionist
>>>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>>>
>>>>                                The Verdict
>>>>
>>>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>>>panel
>>>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>>>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>>>The
>>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>>>studied
>>>>carefully.
>>>>
>>>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>>>confidence
>>>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>>>Kenyermeze.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>>>they
>>>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>>>
>>>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>>>others
>>>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>>>Jews.
>>>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>>>of
>>>>Jewish leaders.
>>>>
>>>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>>>leaders
>>>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>>>spreading
>>>>such false information and did not protest.
>>>>
>>>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>>>
>>>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>>>hampering
>>>>the deportation orders.
>>>>
>>>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>>>dozen
>>>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>>>these few
>>>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>>>
>>>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>>>Jews in
>>>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>>>
>>>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>>>their
>>>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>>>who
>>>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>>>deportations...these
>>>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>>>to
>>>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>>>extermination
>>>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>>>Budapest
>>>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>>>as a
>>>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>>>dependent on
>>>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>>>fatal
>>>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>>>Jewish
>>>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>>>catastrophe.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>>>Jewry
>>>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>>>
>>>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>>>task
>>>>easier.
>>>>
>>>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>>>
>>>>chiefs.
>>>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>>>underground.
>>>>
>>>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>>>Nazis
>>>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>>>Rescue
>>>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>>>
>>>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>>>these
>>>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>>>
>>>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>>>friends
>>>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>>>annihilation.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>>>six
>>>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>>>to him
>>>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>>>great
>>>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>>>would
>>>>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>>>the
>>>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>>>
>>>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>>>soul to
>>>>the German Satan.
>>>>
>>>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>>>order
>>>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>>>between
>>>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>>>into
>>>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>>>promised
>>>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>>>Jews
>>>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>>>Kastner
>>>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>>>and
>>>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>>>and
>>>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>>>from
>>>>the book of the living.
>>>>
>>>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>>>put
>>>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>>>only
>>>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>>>
>>>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>>>to
>>>>evade this truth.
>>>>
>>>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>>>wall
>>>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>>>to
>>>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>>>June 22,
>>>>1955).
>>>>
>>>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>>>'new
>>>>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>>>
>>>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>>>
>>>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>>>Jews.
>>>>
>>>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>>>of
>>>>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>>>criminals.
>>>>
>>>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>>>Kastner
>>>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>>>
>>>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>>>Kastner's
>>>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>>>
>>>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>>>the
>>>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>>>
>>>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>>>were
>>>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>>>
>>>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>>>
>>>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>>>when
>>>>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>>>the
>>>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>>>
>>>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>>>defense to
>>>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>>>remove
>>>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>>>
>>>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>>>criminal.
>>>>
>>>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>>>testimony
>>>>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>>>minute
>>>>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>>>truth -
>>>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>>>
>>>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>>>stood up
>>>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>>>the
>>>>affidavit.
>>>>
>>>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>>>but to
>>>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>>>good
>>>>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>>>>intention of good Becher'.
>>>>
>>>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>>>his
>>>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>>>World
>>>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>>>exaggerate
>>>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>>>personal
>>>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>>>contradictions
>>>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>>>faith
>>>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's
>>>>affidavit
>>>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>>>war
>>>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>>>
>>>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>>>his
>>>>statements." 
>>>>
>>>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>>>libel
>>>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>>>ordered
>>>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>>>as
>>>>court costs.
>>>>
>>>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>>>pointed to
>>>>much more than that.
>>>>
>>>>But the story does not end there.
>>>> 
>>>>The Reaction
>>>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>>>know now
>>>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>>>>
>>>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>>>Government of Israel.
>>>>
>>>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>>>
>>>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>>>
>>>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>>>instead
>>>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>>>libel.
>>>>
>>>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>>>government
>>>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>>>What
>>>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>>>appeal on
>>>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>>>
>>>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>>>of
>>>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>>>was
>>>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>>>
>>>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>>>National
>>>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>>>in
>>>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>>>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>>>
>>>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>>>was
>>>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>>>leadership.
>>>>
>>>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>>>But
>>>>the story gets worse.
>>>>
>>>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>>>
>>>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>>>the 
>>>>name 
>>>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>>>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
>>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>>
>>>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>>>court -
>>>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>>
>>>>                        
>>>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>>>these
>>>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>>>found
>>>>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>>>Greenwald of
>>>>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>>>>
>>>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>>>the
>>>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>>>prove
>>>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>>>
>>>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>>>Kastner.
>>>>They joined him.
>>>>
>>>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>>>Chesin:
>>>>
>>>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>>>Kluj,
>>>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>>>end of
>>>>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>>>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>>>vivid
>>>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>>>any
>>>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>>>Budapest,
>>>>protocol 465).
>>>>
>>>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>>>Jews
>>>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>>>neither
>>>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>>>the
>>>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>>>properly
>>>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>>>
>>>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>>>when
>>>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>>>from
>>>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>>>Even
>>>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>>>say
>>>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>>>Jews
>>>>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>>>plan to
>>>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>>>
>>>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>>>the
>>>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>>>is not
>>>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>>>its
>>>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>>>his
>>>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>>>disclose
>>>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>>>everybody
>>>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>>>blood of
>>>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>>>with
>>>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>>>District
>>>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>>>his
>>>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>>>at.
>>>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>>>extermination
>>>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>>>from a
>>>>moral and public point of view...
>>>>
>>>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>>>who
>>>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>>>one
>>>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>>>Marton,
>>>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>>>hour of
>>>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>>>warn
>>>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>>>
>>>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>>>Court
>>>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>>>Hungary
>>>>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>>>
>>>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>>>Hungarian
>>>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>>>many
>>>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>>>knowledge of
>>>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>>>train for Palestine.
>>>>
>>>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>>>
>>>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>>>Silberg:
>>>>
>>>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>>>the
>>>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>>>a
>>>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>>>here
>>>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>>>guilt of others....
>>>>
>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>>>an
>>>>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>>>of
>>>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>>>few -
>>>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>>>collaborating
>>>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>>>though, in
>>>>fact, he brought about its result.'
>>>>
>>>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>>>such
>>>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>>>cooperation
>>>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>>>decisive
>>>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>>>the
>>>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>>>able
>>>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>>>concealment of
>>>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>>>etc. -
>>>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>>>certainty
>>>>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>>>rescue
>>>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>>>he
>>>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>>>of the
>>>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>>>as
>>>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>>>a
>>>>claim of such good faith...
>>>>
>>>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>>>die
>>>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>>>come
>>>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>>>individual
>>>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>>>patients. He
>>>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>>>
>>>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>>>complete
>>>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>>>operation
>>>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>>>
>>>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>>>was
>>>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>>>Kastner
>>>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>>>this
>>>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>>>to the
>>>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>>>the
>>>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>>>and
>>>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>>>the
>>>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>>>resisting
>>>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>>>activity.
>>>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>>>
>>>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>>>
>>>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>>>revolts,
>>>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>>>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>>>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>>>of
>>>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>>>which
>>>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>>>
>>>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>>>the
>>>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>>>murder.
>>>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>>>>evidence for this.
>>>>
>>>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>>>of
>>>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>>>
>>>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>>>rescuing
>>>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>>>base
>>>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>>>is
>>>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>>>retroactive
>>>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>>>
>>>>                         
>>>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>>>their
>>>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>>>been
>>>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>>>collaboration
>>>>with the Nazis.
>>>>
>>>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>>>
>>>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>>>
>>>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>>>with
>>>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>>>
>>>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>>>gave
>>>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>>>remain
>>>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>>>an
>>>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>>>
>>>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>>>West
>>>>Germany.
>>>>
>>>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>>>the
>>>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>>>pressure
>>>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>>>what
>>>>might come out.
>>>>
>>>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>>>Rescue
>>>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>>>trial .
>>>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>>>the 
>>>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>>>>Palestine.
>>>>
>>>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>>>was
>>>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>>>in
>>>>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>>>1957
>>>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings
>>>>were
>>>>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was
>>>>delivered.
>>>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>>>of the
>>>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>>>>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).
>>
>>



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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>reconsidered by thinking readers.

>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org

>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>
>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>Archives:         
>        
>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>         
>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>
>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>       
>         
>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>Government."         
>
>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>
>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>
>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>
>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>
>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>Gordon. 
>
>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>were Jews. 
>
>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>did not take kindly to it." 
>
>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>
>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>4, 1919) 
>	
>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>
>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>himself:
>
>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>virtually untouched.
>
>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>
>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>Communist bosses.
> 
>>Regards,
>>Roger Hughes

>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>                http://www.natvan.com
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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>reconsidered by thinking readers.

>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org

>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>
>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>Archives:         
>        
>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>         
>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>
>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>       
>         
>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>Government."         
>
>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>
>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>
>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>
>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>
>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>Gordon. 
>
>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>were Jews. 
>
>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>did not take kindly to it." 
>
>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>
>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>4, 1919) 
>	
>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>
>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>himself:
>
>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>virtually untouched.
>
>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>
>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>Communist bosses.
> 
>>Regards,
>>Roger Hughes

>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>                http://www.natvan.com
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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:29:42 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>>
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>>>>>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>>>
>>>>Her is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>>>
>>>>The Kastner Case
>>>>
>>>>                              
>>>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>>>involving
>>>>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>>>
>>>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>>>are
>>>>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>>>>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money
>>>>and
>>>>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the
>>>>Supreme
>>>>Court of Israel.
>>>>
>>>>                              The Accusations
>>>>
>>>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>>>Medical
>>>>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>>>>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>>>certain
>>>>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>>>
>>>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>>>silence.
>>>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>>>Jews
>>>>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>>>number is
>>>>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>>>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>>>was
>>>>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>>>Eichmann
>>>>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>>>>went
>>>>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>>>>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>>>
>>>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>>>took
>>>>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>>>bargaining
>>>>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>>>little
>>>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>>>>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>>>>pp261-2)
>>>>
>>>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>>>published in
>>>>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>>>
>>>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>>>stands
>>>>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>>>>wanted
>>>>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>>>was a
>>>>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>>>>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>>>keep
>>>>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>>>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>>>It
>>>>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not
>>>>too
>>>>high for me.
>>>>
>>>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>>>smoke
>>>>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>>>>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>>>he
>>>>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>>>of
>>>>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>>>
>>>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>>>thousand
>>>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You
>>>>can
>>>>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>>>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>>>deportation
>>>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>>>>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>>>
>>>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>>>of 
>>>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>>>
>>>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>>>
>>>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>>>than
>>>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>>>Zionist
>>>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>>>
>>>>                                The Verdict
>>>>
>>>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>>>panel
>>>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>>>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>>>The
>>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>>>studied
>>>>carefully.
>>>>
>>>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>>>confidence
>>>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>>>Kenyermeze.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>>>they
>>>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>>>
>>>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>>>others
>>>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>>>Jews.
>>>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>>>of
>>>>Jewish leaders.
>>>>
>>>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>>>leaders
>>>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>>>spreading
>>>>such false information and did not protest.
>>>>
>>>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>>>
>>>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>>>hampering
>>>>the deportation orders.
>>>>
>>>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>>>dozen
>>>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>>>these few
>>>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>>>
>>>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>>>Jews in
>>>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>>>
>>>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>>>their
>>>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>>>who
>>>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>>>deportations...these
>>>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>>>to
>>>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>>>extermination
>>>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>>>Budapest
>>>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>>>as a
>>>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>>>dependent on
>>>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>>>fatal
>>>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>>>Jewish
>>>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>>>catastrophe.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>>>Jewry
>>>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>>>
>>>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>>>task
>>>>easier.
>>>>
>>>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>>>
>>>>chiefs.
>>>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>>>underground.
>>>>
>>>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>>>Nazis
>>>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>>>Rescue
>>>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>>>
>>>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>>>these
>>>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>>>
>>>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>>>friends
>>>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>>>annihilation.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>>>six
>>>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>>>to him
>>>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>>>great
>>>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>>>would
>>>>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>>>the
>>>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>>>
>>>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>>>soul to
>>>>the German Satan.
>>>>
>>>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>>>order
>>>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>>>between
>>>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>>>into
>>>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>>>promised
>>>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>>>Jews
>>>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>>>Kastner
>>>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>>>and
>>>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>>>and
>>>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>>>from
>>>>the book of the living.
>>>>
>>>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>>>put
>>>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>>>only
>>>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>>>
>>>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>>>to
>>>>evade this truth.
>>>>
>>>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>>>wall
>>>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>>>to
>>>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>>>June 22,
>>>>1955).
>>>>
>>>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>>>'new
>>>>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>>>
>>>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>>>
>>>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>>>Jews.
>>>>
>>>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>>>of
>>>>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>>>criminals.
>>>>
>>>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>>>Kastner
>>>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>>>
>>>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>>>Kastner's
>>>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>>>
>>>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>>>the
>>>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>>>
>>>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>>>were
>>>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>>>
>>>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>>>
>>>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>>>when
>>>>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>>>the
>>>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>>>
>>>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>>>defense to
>>>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>>>remove
>>>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>>>
>>>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>>>criminal.
>>>>
>>>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>>>testimony
>>>>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>>>minute
>>>>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>>>truth -
>>>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>>>
>>>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>>>stood up
>>>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>>>the
>>>>affidavit.
>>>>
>>>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>>>but to
>>>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>>>good
>>>>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>>>>intention of good Becher'.
>>>>
>>>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>>>his
>>>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>>>World
>>>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>>>exaggerate
>>>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>>>personal
>>>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>>>contradictions
>>>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>>>faith
>>>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's
>>>>affidavit
>>>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>>>war
>>>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>>>
>>>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>>>his
>>>>statements." 
>>>>
>>>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>>>libel
>>>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>>>ordered
>>>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>>>as
>>>>court costs.
>>>>
>>>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>>>pointed to
>>>>much more than that.
>>>>
>>>>But the story does not end there.
>>>> 
>>>>The Reaction
>>>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>>>know now
>>>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>>>>
>>>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>>>Government of Israel.
>>>>
>>>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>>>
>>>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>>>
>>>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>>>instead
>>>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>>>libel.
>>>>
>>>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>>>government
>>>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>>>What
>>>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>>>appeal on
>>>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>>>
>>>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>>>of
>>>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>>>was
>>>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>>>
>>>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>>>National
>>>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>>>in
>>>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>>>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>>>
>>>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>>>was
>>>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>>>leadership.
>>>>
>>>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>>>But
>>>>the story gets worse.
>>>>
>>>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>>>
>>>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>>>the 
>>>>name 
>>>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>>>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
>>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>>
>>>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>>>court -
>>>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>>
>>>>                        
>>>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>>>these
>>>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>>>found
>>>>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>>>Greenwald of
>>>>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>>>>
>>>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>>>the
>>>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>>>prove
>>>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>>>
>>>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>>>Kastner.
>>>>They joined him.
>>>>
>>>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>>>Chesin:
>>>>
>>>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>>>Kluj,
>>>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>>>end of
>>>>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>>>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>>>vivid
>>>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>>>any
>>>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>>>Budapest,
>>>>protocol 465).
>>>>
>>>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>>>Jews
>>>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>>>neither
>>>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>>>the
>>>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>>>properly
>>>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>>>
>>>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>>>when
>>>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>>>from
>>>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>>>Even
>>>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>>>say
>>>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>>>Jews
>>>>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>>>plan to
>>>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>>>
>>>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>>>the
>>>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>>>is not
>>>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>>>its
>>>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>>>his
>>>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>>>disclose
>>>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>>>everybody
>>>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>>>blood of
>>>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>>>with
>>>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>>>District
>>>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>>>his
>>>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>>>at.
>>>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>>>extermination
>>>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>>>from a
>>>>moral and public point of view...
>>>>
>>>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>>>who
>>>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>>>one
>>>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>>>Marton,
>>>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>>>hour of
>>>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>>>warn
>>>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>>>
>>>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>>>Court
>>>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>>>Hungary
>>>>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>>>
>>>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>>>Hungarian
>>>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>>>many
>>>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>>>knowledge of
>>>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>>>train for Palestine.
>>>>
>>>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>>>
>>>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>>>Silberg:
>>>>
>>>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>>>the
>>>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>>>a
>>>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>>>here
>>>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>>>guilt of others....
>>>>
>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>>>an
>>>>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>>>of
>>>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>>>few -
>>>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>>>collaborating
>>>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>>>though, in
>>>>fact, he brought about its result.'
>>>>
>>>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>>>such
>>>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>>>cooperation
>>>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>>>decisive
>>>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>>>the
>>>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>>>able
>>>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>>>concealment of
>>>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>>>etc. -
>>>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>>>certainty
>>>>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>>>rescue
>>>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>>>he
>>>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>>>of the
>>>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>>>as
>>>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>>>a
>>>>claim of such good faith...
>>>>
>>>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>>>die
>>>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>>>come
>>>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>>>individual
>>>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>>>patients. He
>>>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>>>
>>>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>>>complete
>>>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>>>operation
>>>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>>>
>>>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>>>was
>>>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>>>Kastner
>>>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>>>this
>>>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>>>to the
>>>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>>>the
>>>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>>>and
>>>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>>>the
>>>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>>>resisting
>>>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>>>activity.
>>>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>>>
>>>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>>>
>>>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>>>revolts,
>>>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>>>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>>>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>>>of
>>>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>>>which
>>>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>>>
>>>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>>>the
>>>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>>>murder.
>>>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>>>>evidence for this.
>>>>
>>>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>>>of
>>>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>>>
>>>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>>>rescuing
>>>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>>>base
>>>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>>>is
>>>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>>>retroactive
>>>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>>>
>>>>                         
>>>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>>>their
>>>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>>>been
>>>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>>>collaboration
>>>>with the Nazis.
>>>>
>>>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>>>
>>>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>>>
>>>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>>>with
>>>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>>>
>>>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>>>gave
>>>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>>>remain
>>>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>>>an
>>>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>>>
>>>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>>>West
>>>>Germany.
>>>>
>>>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>>>the
>>>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>>>pressure
>>>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>>>what
>>>>might come out.
>>>>
>>>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>>>Rescue
>>>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>>>trial .
>>>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>>>the 
>>>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>>>>Palestine.
>>>>
>>>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>>>was
>>>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>>>in
>>>>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>>>1957
>>>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings
>>>>were
>>>>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was
>>>>delivered.
>>>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>>>of the
>>>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>>>>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).
>>
>>



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Subject: KHAZIR Stands for Jew swine
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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, "William Hubbard" 
wrote:

>Strakitch tye golevo!


Should be shta allah aboukir!!!


>bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote in article
><35ff8fb8.1840244@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>> 
>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, "Fenian" < fenian@hibernian.com> wrote:
>> >>morgan@shamrock.com wrote in article
><35995802.2904819@news.nucleus.com>...
>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>> >
>> >>> >>> Shouldn't the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the
>swine???
>> > 
>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower
>than
>> >>> >the feces of swine.

>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!

>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being
>conducted
>> >>> in the Temples.




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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>reconsidered by thinking readers.

>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org

>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>
>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>Archives:         
>        
>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>         
>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>
>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>       
>         
>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>Government."         
>
>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>
>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>
>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>
>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>
>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>Gordon. 
>
>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>were Jews. 
>
>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>did not take kindly to it." 
>
>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>
>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>4, 1919) 
>	
>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>
>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>himself:
>
>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>virtually untouched.
>
>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>
>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>Communist bosses.
> 
>>Regards,
>>Roger Hughes

>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>                http://www.natvan.com
sven88


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On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:29:42 GMT, gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:

>>On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>>trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,
>>
>>On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:
>>>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>>>>>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>>>
>>>>Her is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>>>
>>>>The Kastner Case
>>>>
>>>>                              
>>>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>>>involving
>>>>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>>>
>>>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>>>are
>>>>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>>>>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money
>>>>and
>>>>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the
>>>>Supreme
>>>>Court of Israel.
>>>>
>>>>                              The Accusations
>>>>
>>>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>>>Medical
>>>>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>>>>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>>>certain
>>>>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>>>
>>>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>>>silence.
>>>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>>>Jews
>>>>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>>>number is
>>>>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>>>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>>>was
>>>>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>>>Eichmann
>>>>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>>>>went
>>>>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>>>>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>>>
>>>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>>>took
>>>>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>>>bargaining
>>>>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>>>little
>>>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>>>>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>>>>pp261-2)
>>>>
>>>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>>>published in
>>>>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>>>
>>>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>>>stands
>>>>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>>>>wanted
>>>>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>>>was a
>>>>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>>>>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>>>keep
>>>>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>>>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>>>It
>>>>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not
>>>>too
>>>>high for me.
>>>>
>>>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>>>smoke
>>>>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>>>>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>>>he
>>>>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>>>
>>>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>>>of
>>>>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>>>
>>>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>>>thousand
>>>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You
>>>>can
>>>>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>>>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>>>deportation
>>>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>>>>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>>>
>>>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>>>of 
>>>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>>>
>>>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>>>
>>>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>>>than
>>>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>>>Zionist
>>>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>>>
>>>>                                The Verdict
>>>>
>>>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>>>panel
>>>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>>>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>>>The
>>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>>>studied
>>>>carefully.
>>>>
>>>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>>>confidence
>>>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>>>Kenyermeze.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>>>they
>>>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>>>
>>>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>>>others
>>>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>>>Jews.
>>>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>>>of
>>>>Jewish leaders.
>>>>
>>>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>>>leaders
>>>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>>>spreading
>>>>such false information and did not protest.
>>>>
>>>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>>>
>>>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>>>hampering
>>>>the deportation orders.
>>>>
>>>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>>>dozen
>>>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>>>these few
>>>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>>>
>>>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>>>Jews in
>>>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>>>
>>>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>>>their
>>>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>>>who
>>>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>>>deportations...these
>>>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>>>to
>>>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>>>extermination
>>>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>>>Budapest
>>>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>>>as a
>>>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>>>dependent on
>>>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>>>fatal
>>>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>>>Jewish
>>>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>>>catastrophe.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>>>Jewry
>>>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>>>
>>>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>>>task
>>>>easier.
>>>>
>>>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>>>
>>>>chiefs.
>>>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>>>underground.
>>>>
>>>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>>>Nazis
>>>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>>>Rescue
>>>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>>>
>>>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>>>these
>>>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>>>
>>>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>>>friends
>>>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>>>annihilation.
>>>>
>>>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>>>six
>>>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>>>to him
>>>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>>>great
>>>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>>>would
>>>>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>>>the
>>>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>>>
>>>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>>>soul to
>>>>the German Satan.
>>>>
>>>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>>>order
>>>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>>>between
>>>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>>>into
>>>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>>>promised
>>>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>>>Jews
>>>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>>>Kastner
>>>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>>>and
>>>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>>>and
>>>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>>>from
>>>>the book of the living.
>>>>
>>>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>>>put
>>>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>>>only
>>>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>>>
>>>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>>>to
>>>>evade this truth.
>>>>
>>>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>>>wall
>>>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>>>to
>>>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>>>June 22,
>>>>1955).
>>>>
>>>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>>>'new
>>>>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>>>
>>>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>>>
>>>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>>>Jews.
>>>>
>>>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>>>of
>>>>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>>>criminals.
>>>>
>>>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>>>Kastner
>>>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>>>
>>>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>>>Kastner's
>>>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>>>
>>>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>>>the
>>>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>>>
>>>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>>>were
>>>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>>>
>>>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>>>
>>>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>>>when
>>>>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>>>the
>>>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>>>
>>>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>>>defense to
>>>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>>>remove
>>>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>>>
>>>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>>>criminal.
>>>>
>>>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>>>testimony
>>>>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>>>minute
>>>>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>>>truth -
>>>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>>>
>>>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>>>stood up
>>>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>>>the
>>>>affidavit.
>>>>
>>>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>>>but to
>>>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>>>good
>>>>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>>>>intention of good Becher'.
>>>>
>>>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>>>his
>>>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>>>World
>>>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>>>exaggerate
>>>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>>>personal
>>>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>>>contradictions
>>>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>>>faith
>>>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's
>>>>affidavit
>>>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>>>war
>>>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>>>
>>>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>>>his
>>>>statements." 
>>>>
>>>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>>>libel
>>>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>>>ordered
>>>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>>>as
>>>>court costs.
>>>>
>>>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>>>pointed to
>>>>much more than that.
>>>>
>>>>But the story does not end there.
>>>> 
>>>>The Reaction
>>>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>>>know now
>>>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>>>>
>>>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>>>Government of Israel.
>>>>
>>>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>>>
>>>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>>>
>>>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>>>instead
>>>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>>>libel.
>>>>
>>>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>>>government
>>>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>>>What
>>>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>>>appeal on
>>>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>>>
>>>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>>>of
>>>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>>>was
>>>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>>>
>>>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>>>National
>>>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>>>in
>>>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>>>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>>>
>>>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>>>was
>>>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>>>leadership.
>>>>
>>>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>>>But
>>>>the story gets worse.
>>>>
>>>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>>>
>>>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>>>the 
>>>>name 
>>>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>>>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
>>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>>
>>>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>>>court -
>>>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>>>rehabilitated'.
>>>>
>>>>                        
>>>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>>>these
>>>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>>>found
>>>>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>>>Greenwald of
>>>>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>>>>
>>>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>>>the
>>>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>>>prove
>>>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>>>
>>>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>>>Kastner.
>>>>They joined him.
>>>>
>>>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>>>Chesin:
>>>>
>>>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>>>Kluj,
>>>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>>>end of
>>>>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>>>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>>>vivid
>>>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>>>any
>>>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>>>Budapest,
>>>>protocol 465).
>>>>
>>>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>>>Jews
>>>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>>>neither
>>>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>>>the
>>>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>>>properly
>>>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>>>
>>>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>>>when
>>>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>>>from
>>>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>>>Even
>>>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>>>say
>>>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>>>Jews
>>>>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>>>plan to
>>>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>>>
>>>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>>>the
>>>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>>>is not
>>>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>>>its
>>>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>>>his
>>>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>>>disclose
>>>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>>>everybody
>>>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>>>blood of
>>>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>>>with
>>>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>>>District
>>>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>>>his
>>>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>>>at.
>>>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>>>extermination
>>>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>>>from a
>>>>moral and public point of view...
>>>>
>>>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>>>who
>>>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>>>one
>>>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>>>Marton,
>>>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>>>hour of
>>>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>>>warn
>>>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>>>
>>>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>>>Court
>>>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>>>Hungary
>>>>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>>>
>>>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>>>Hungarian
>>>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>>>many
>>>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>>>knowledge of
>>>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>>>train for Palestine.
>>>>
>>>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>>>
>>>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>>>Silberg:
>>>>
>>>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>>>the
>>>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>>>a
>>>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>>>here
>>>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>>>guilt of others....
>>>>
>>>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>>>an
>>>>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>>>of
>>>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>>>few -
>>>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>>>collaborating
>>>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>>>though, in
>>>>fact, he brought about its result.'
>>>>
>>>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>>>such
>>>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>>>cooperation
>>>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>>>decisive
>>>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>>>the
>>>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>>>able
>>>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>>>concealment of
>>>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>>>etc. -
>>>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>>>certainty
>>>>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>>>rescue
>>>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>>>he
>>>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>>>of the
>>>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>>>as
>>>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>>>a
>>>>claim of such good faith...
>>>>
>>>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>>>die
>>>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>>>come
>>>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>>>individual
>>>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>>>patients. He
>>>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>>>
>>>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>>>complete
>>>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>>>operation
>>>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>>>
>>>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>>>was
>>>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>>>Kastner
>>>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>>>this
>>>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>>>to the
>>>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>>>the
>>>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>>>and
>>>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>>>the
>>>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>>>resisting
>>>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>>>activity.
>>>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>>>
>>>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>>>
>>>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>>>revolts,
>>>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>>>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>>>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>>>of
>>>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>>>which
>>>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>>>
>>>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>>>the
>>>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>>>murder.
>>>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>>>>evidence for this.
>>>>
>>>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>>>of
>>>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>>>
>>>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>>>rescuing
>>>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>>>base
>>>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>>>is
>>>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>>>retroactive
>>>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>>>
>>>>                         
>>>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>>>their
>>>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>>>been
>>>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>>>collaboration
>>>>with the Nazis.
>>>>
>>>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>>>
>>>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>>>
>>>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>>>with
>>>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>>>
>>>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>>>gave
>>>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>>>remain
>>>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>>>an
>>>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>>>
>>>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>>>West
>>>>Germany.
>>>>
>>>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>>>the
>>>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>>>pressure
>>>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>>>what
>>>>might come out.
>>>>
>>>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>>>Rescue
>>>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>>>trial .
>>>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>>>the 
>>>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>>>>Palestine.
>>>>
>>>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>>>was
>>>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>>>in
>>>>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>>>1957
>>>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings
>>>>were
>>>>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was
>>>>delivered.
>>>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>>>of the
>>>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>>>>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).
>>
>>



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On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:44 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

On 13 Sep 1998 07:18:24 GMT, "William Hubbard" 
wrote:

>Strakitch tye golevo!


Should be shta allah aboukir!!!


>bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote in article
><35ff8fb8.1840244@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>> On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:29 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:
>> 
>> >On 25 Jun 1998 20:41:51 GMT, "Fenian" < fenian@hibernian.com> wrote:
>> >>morgan@shamrock.com wrote in article
><35995802.2904819@news.nucleus.com>...
>> >>> On 24 Jun 1998 23:39:44 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>> >
>> >>> >>> Shouldn't the spelling be KHAZIR, meaning swine???
>> >>> >>> After all, the Christkillers are lower than the feces of the
>swine???
>> > 
>> >>> >I have many christian friend and I object to you calling them lower
>than
>> >>> >the feces of swine.

>> >>> It is not the Christians that are the Christkillers.
>> >>> Read your Bible, or have your friend read it to you, about the foul
>> >>> Sanhedrin JEWS, who arranged for the murder of Jesus Christ!!!

>> >>> Christ opposed their usury and other financial crimes, being
>conducted
>> >>> in the Temples.




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On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:09:51 -0800, "((((())))))"
 wrote:

>The Kastner Case
>
>                              
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that involving
>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have, are
>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and
>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the Supreme
>Court of Israel.
>
>                              The Accusations
>
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British Medical
>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
>
>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse certain
>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of silence.
>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all Jews
>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is
>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was
>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann
>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner went
>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and took
>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid bargaining
>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions' published in
>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander stands
>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I wanted
>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a
>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep
>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine. It
>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not too
>high for me.
>
>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would smoke
>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he
>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group of
>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a thousand
>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You can
>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the deportation
>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase of 
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more than
>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>                                The Verdict
>
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the panel
>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953. The
>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be studied
>carefully.
>
>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of confidence
>in the false information that they were being transferred to Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had they
>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and others
>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help of
>Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local leaders
>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were spreading
>such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or hampering
>the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few dozen
>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower these few
>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the Jews in
>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn their
>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders who
>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of deportations...these
>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride to
>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of extermination
>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in Budapest
>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this as a
>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured, dependent on
>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its fatal
>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish
>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in Jewry
>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their task
>easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S. 
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the Nazis
>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish Rescue
>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by these
>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his friends
>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total annihilation.
>
>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save six
>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed to him
>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a great
>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that would
>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and the
>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his soul to
>the German Satan.
>
>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in order
>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement between
>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation into
>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised
>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian Jews
>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that Kastner
>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp and
>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents and
>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out from
>the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and put
>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not only
>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort to
>evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the wall
>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly to
>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
>1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the 'new
>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent of
>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so Kastner
>also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna. Kastner's
>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department, the
>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S. were
>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court when
>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed the
>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the defense to
>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to remove
>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his testimony
>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last minute
>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming truth -
>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never stood up
>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in the
>affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews but to
>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no good
>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>intention of good Becher'.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in his
>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World
>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not exaggerate
>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his personal
>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the contradictions
>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good faith
>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's affidavit
>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a war
>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of his
>statements." 
>
>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of libel
>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also ordered
>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds as
>court costs.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial pointed to
>much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
> 
>The Reaction
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary know now
>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>
>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial, instead
>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the government
>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed. What
>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an appeal on
>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General of
>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel was
>defending Kastner so strongly:
>
>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish National
>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in
>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>(Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration was
>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court. But
>the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a 
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the 
>name 
>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower court -
>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>rehabilitated'.
>
>                        
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging these
>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two, found
>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted Greenwald of
>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>
>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is the
>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that prove
>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate Kastner.
>They joined him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in Kluj,
>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the end of
>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This vivid
>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The Jews
>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable, neither
>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to the
>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can properly
>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner when
>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result from
>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community. Even
>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and say
>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few Jews
>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their plan to
>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission - the
>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question is not
>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting its
>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of his
>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he disclose
>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way everybody
>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the blood of
>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing with
>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish District
>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his
>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both from a
>moral and public point of view...
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people who
>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination, one
>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and Marton,
>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an hour of
>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not warn
>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in Hungary
>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the Hungarian
>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what many
>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their knowledge of
>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is 
>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among the
>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have a
>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing here
>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others....
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into an
>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray of
>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the few -
>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of collaborating
>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even though, in
>fact, he brought about its result.'
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive such
>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in cooperation
>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the decisive
>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of the
>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been able
>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings, concealment of
>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery, etc. -
>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty
>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue
>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he
>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as
>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to a
>claim of such good faith...
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people die
>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will come
>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an individual
>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other patients. He
>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with complete
>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue operation
>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which was
>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then Kastner
>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make this
>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report to the
>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in the
>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue, and
>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed the
>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or resisting
>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>
>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small revolts,
>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs of
>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics which
>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or the
>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>evidence for this.
>
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire of
>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of rescuing
>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't base
>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it is
>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws retroactive
>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>                         
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever their
>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have been
>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate collaboration
>with the Nazis.
>
>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration with
>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner gave
>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to remain
>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with an
>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in West
>Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with the
>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only pressure
>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of what
>might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and Rescue
>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on trial .
>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the 
>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did was
>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership in
>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957
>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were
>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered.
>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the
>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).



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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:38:00 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>Came across the article in deja News, so thought it should be
>reconsidered by thinking readers.

>On Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:50:37 GMT, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>>Reply-To: kenmcvay@nazikor.org

>>Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
>>From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
>>Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
>>Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation

>>Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
>>	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called "Russian
>>Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
>>of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
>>them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
>>facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
>>and lead revolutionary movement.
>
>>	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism, Karl Marx,
>>was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
>>Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
>>Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
>>bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
>>also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 
>
>>	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism, will
>>concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
>>communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables that
>>passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
>>during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
>>quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
>>Archives:         
>        
>>State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
>>general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet government,
>>anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
>         
>>State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on July
>>5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government in
>>each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        
>
>>>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
>>March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
>>Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
>>United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
>>beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type." 
>       
>         
>>A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok, reports
>>on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were 384
>>`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
>>Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come to
>>Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
>>Government."         
>
>>With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
>>leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
>>(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
>>access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
>>Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
>>of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
>>Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
>>Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
>>(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
>>central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
>>prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn), foreign
>>affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and
>>Moisei Uritsky. 
>
>>David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
>>January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
>>of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care little
>>for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
>>trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 
>
>>The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
>>"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
>>spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
>>organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
>>object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things." 
>
>>In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
>>here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
>>superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik Propaganda
>>Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
>>United States Senate, 65th Congress: 
>
>>"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
>>Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east side
>>of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
>>Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased that
>>there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
>>showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of these
>>men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element in
>>this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
>>more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
>>Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that one
>>of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
>>startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
>>startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the northern
>>community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the Soviet
>>regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
>>out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
>>exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
>>Gordon. 
>
>>I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
>>revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing on
>>the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
>>often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
>>all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews, because
>>there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in Petrograd,
>>but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the agitators
>>were Jews. 
>
>>I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
>>Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
>>posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now that
>>was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
>>did not take kindly to it." 
>
>>Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
>>"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
>>few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:
>
>>"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
>>Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
>>new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
>>Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
>>physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
>>Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 
>
>>"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
>>many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
>>many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London April,
>>4, 1919) 
>	
>>"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin, Rabbi
>>S. Wise, May 5, 1935).
>
>>"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
>>communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
>>the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 
>
>>Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
>>so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
>>himself:
>
>>"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
>>extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
>
>>While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
>>clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
>>virtually untouched.
>
>>It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
>>conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
>>population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
>>million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
>>campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80 percent
>>of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
>>American professor of Russian history. . . "  
>
>>Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons were
>>murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
>>directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
>>Communist bosses.
> 
>>Regards,
>>Roger Hughes

>>                http://www.natall.com  
>>                http://www.natvan.com
sven88


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On 1 Oct 1998 20:07:20 GMT, (Kenneth McVay SOB) wrote:

Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!



On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>campaign.
>
>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>THEM!!!
>
>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>at Canada Post include:
>
>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>
>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>
>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>
>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>disappearing!!!
>
>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>
>
>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>stolen.
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>been arrested.
>
>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>mail.
>
>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>
>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Rainer,
>
>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>"Canadian Mail Warning
>
>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>tip of the iceberg.
>
>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>
>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>substantial losses.
>
>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>pay the higher cost.
>
>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>
>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>
>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>> writes
>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>letters?
>
>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>
>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>USPS.
>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>as other media.
sven88


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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 20:21:50 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com 
trying to get more people angry with thefts by Canada Post wrote:

Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!



On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>campaign.
>
>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>THEM!!!
>
>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>at Canada Post include:
>
>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>
>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>
>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>
>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>disappearing!!!
>
>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>
>
>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>stolen.
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>been arrested.
>
>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>mail.
>
>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>
>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Rainer,
>
>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>"Canadian Mail Warning
>
>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>tip of the iceberg.
>
>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>
>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>substantial losses.
>
>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>pay the higher cost.
>
>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>
>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>
>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>> writes
>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>letters?
>
>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>
>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>USPS.
>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>as other media.
sven88


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On 1 Oct 1998 20:07:20 GMT, (Kenneth McVay SOB) wrote:

Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!



On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>campaign.
>
>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>THEM!!!
>
>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>at Canada Post include:
>
>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>
>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>
>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>
>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>disappearing!!!
>
>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>
>
>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>stolen.
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>been arrested.
>
>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>mail.
>
>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>
>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Rainer,
>
>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>"Canadian Mail Warning
>
>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>tip of the iceberg.
>
>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>
>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>substantial losses.
>
>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>pay the higher cost.
>
>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>
>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>
>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>> writes
>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>letters?
>
>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>
>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>USPS.
>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>as other media.
sven88


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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 20:21:50 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com 
trying to get more people angry with thefts by Canada Post wrote:

Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!



On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>campaign.
>
>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>THEM!!!
>
>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>at Canada Post include:
>
>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>
>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>
>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>
>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>disappearing!!!
>
>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>
>
>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>stolen.
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>been arrested.
>
>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>mail.
>
>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>
>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Rainer,
>
>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>"Canadian Mail Warning
>
>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>tip of the iceberg.
>
>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>
>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>substantial losses.
>
>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>pay the higher cost.
>
>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>
>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>
>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>> writes
>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>letters?
>
>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>
>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>USPS.
>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>as other media.
sven88


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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 18:22:38 GMT, sbjarnason trying desperately to
stimule more discussion  wrote:

On 23 Jun 1998 00:27:52 GMT, dswan@acs2.acs.ucalgary.ca (Daniel Swan)
wrote:

>steve mock (smock@veritas.nizkor.org) wrote:
>
>: What you constantly fail to grasp, Tavish, is that no one is denying that there were people of Jewish ancestry among
>: the Bolsheviks, or even that there weren't quite a few people of Jewish ancestry among the Bolsheviks.  What you
>: completely and utterly fail to understand is how collossal the leap of logic is which you ask us to make from that fact
>: to the conclusion that Bolshevism is some kind of a Jewish plot for which Jews bear collective responsibility.
>
>Logical leap or not, this raises an interesting question:  How
>can the overproportionate Jewish representation among the
>Bolsheviks be accounted for?


Perhaps the following text may help answer your rhetorical question...

Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation


Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called
"Russian
Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
and lead revolutionary movement.

	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,
Karl Marx,
was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 

	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism,
will
concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
that
passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
Archives:         
         
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet
government,
anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
         
State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July
5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government
in
each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        

>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type." 
       
         
A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports
on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were
384
`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come
to
Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
Government."         

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
foreign
affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
and
Moisei Uritsky. 

David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
little
for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."


In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
Propaganda
Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
United States Senate, 65th Congress: 

"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
side
of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased
that
there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of
these
men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element
in
this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
one
of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the
northern
community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
Soviet
regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
Gordon. 

I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
on
the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
because
there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
Petrograd,
but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the
agitators
were Jews. 

I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
that
was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
did not take kindly to it." 

Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 

"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London
April,
4, 1919) 
	
"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin,
Rabbi
S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 

Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:

"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs
characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death
penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
virtually untouched.

It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80
percent
of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
American professor of Russian history. . . "  

Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
were
murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
Communist bosses.
  
Regards,
Roger Hughes

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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 20:09:51 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

>In article <01bdec92$b78578c0$8014bcca@default>,
>  "David S. M. Ng"  wrote:
>> i beg to differ... just because soros is a jew and a currency speculator
>> DOES NOT mean that all currency speculators are JEWS!!
>>
>>  anyway, please keep your nazi statements to yourself.
>
>
>You have to understand the source of this material.  This is the work of Bill
>Grosvenor of Edmonton Canada hiding behind various fake names.	Currently he
>is using the fake name "sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org".  (I guess he must be
>mad at me... :-(
>
>Learn more about Bill Grosvenor, convicted criminal, former mental institution
>inmate and Barbie Doll collector in the Grosvenor FAQs:
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/
>http://www.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=251280192
>
>(Grosvenor is posting from an account at Telusplanet.net in Canada.  You tell
>by looking at the Message-ID line in the headers.  Any anti-Semitic or racist
>material you see posted here with ""
>as the Message-ID is from Grosvenor.  You can let Telusplanet know what
>Grosvenor is doing my mailing his articles, complete with headers, to
>abuse@telusplanet.net )
>
>Cheers,
>
>Sven
>
>
>
>> sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote in article
>> <361b2e21.230176304@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>> > On 29 Sep 1998 22:05:48 +0800, "David S. M. Ng" 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >HELLO??!!! Vhat rr uu saying? please keep your racist comments to your
>> side
>> > >of the world.... we don't need another vhite man's opinion over here
>> thank
>> > >you very much.
>> >
>> > Since these newsgroups are mainly for people in Islamic countries, the
>> > problems associated with the christkiller JEWS is extremely relevant.
>> >
>> > Are you not concerned about money speculators such as the JEW SOROS?
>> > >
>
>
>P.S.: Bill, could you tell us some more about your Barbie dolls?
>
>(see http://www.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=120435350 )
>
>Subject:
>             TRADE for Peppermint Princess
>        Date:
>             29 Nov 1995 00:00:00 GMT
>       From:
>             acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca ()
> Organization:
>             Edmonton Freenet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
> Newsgroups:
>             rec.collecting.dolls
>
>
>
>
>Want to trade for Peppermint Princess NRFB.Can offer NRFB Limited Edition
>1995 Governors Ball Barbie.
>
>Let us know if you're interested.



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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 19:57:57 GMT, sbjarnason trying to stimulate more
anti-JEW comments  wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:20:12 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:

>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>Christ.
>
>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>business.
>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>
>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>
>>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>in Brooklyn. 
>>
>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York representatives of
>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>community. 
>>
>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>lords. 
>>
>> "Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary Carter,
>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>charges. 
>>
>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>reporting requirements. 
>>
>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>attorney prosecuting the case. 
>>
>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>traffickers. 
>>
>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>>
>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 -- the amount
>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement --
>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>at the same location. 
>>
>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem. 
>>
>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in Hebrew. The
>>only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz Family of Mexico
>>Building." 
>>
>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>federal complaint. 
>>
>> The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service --
>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>officials said. 
>>
>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals --
>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>illicit drug profits. 
>>
>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday's
>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them --
>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to have brought in large sums
>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder. 
>>
>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>>
>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made out
>>to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions," the
>>federal complaint said. 
>>
>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>among the intermediaries. 
>>
>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>================================================================================
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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 20:09:51 GMT, sbjarnason a JEW maggot  wrote:

On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org decided
to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:

>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>In article <353fd933.625226@news.datanet.ab.ca>, torquemada@inquisition.org
>>writes:

>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!

>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??

>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.

>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!

Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
weren't illegal.

>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>reports to prove this!!!

but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 

If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
other references  below, cited.

>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!

>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??

>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:

>>Sir,
>>  You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>an open liar?
>>                               irgun43

>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>> >Yesss!

>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”

>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.

>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:

>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle

>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html

>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--

>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.

>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>> book The War Against The Jews.

>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].

>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>> deportations."]

                         ____________________________

>>> Or how about this?

>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army

>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.

>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>> knowledge and approval.

>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."

>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]

>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.

>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.

>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.

>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>> Aryan.''

>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.

>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>> whose father was a Jew.

>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
 
>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
 
>>> Sources:
 
>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.

>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.

>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html

>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html

>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company

>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
 
>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>> by Reuters

>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
 
>>> See also:
>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company

>>> Dec. 26, 1996

>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>> served in Nazi army

>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>> Los Angeles Times

>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>> of Holocaust history.

>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.

>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>> whole story.]
>>> 
>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
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On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach 
wrote:

>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>                   By Dr. E. R. Fields
>
>   The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>world's sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>actual took place.
>
>              NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON'T ADD UP
>
>   The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine."
>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>   With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>holocaust "survivors" had applied for reparations money. The Red
>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>that in the Jews real "bible", The Talmud, it is claimed that
>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>   The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>having been put to death "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz."
>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>these figures which today are accepted as "gospel truth".
>   It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>"extermination camp".
>
>             HIMMLER-"REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS"
>
>   Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that "The death rate in the
>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source,
>Reitlinger's book, "The Final Solution.")
>   The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler's
>order on Jan 20, 1943, "Every means will be used to lower the
>death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>   On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>in the "shockingly high mortality figures." (Source: Nuremberg
>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>2.8% in June 1943.
>   The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of "extermination?"
>   With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>"Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>Criminals". It was after this meeting that the announcement
>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>
>                  THE  PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>
>   In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>states in the paper, "Books and Bookmen", April 1975, page 5,
>"No gassing took place in any camp on German soil."
>   The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>believe in rumors of gassings.
>
>   This brings up the following questions.
>   1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>   2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>MASS GASSINGS!
>   3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>died from typhus.
>   4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>the response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have
>not spoken of them." (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>1946.)
>
>             FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>
>   Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such "confessions" are about
>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>1936. The communists wrote the "Confession' and Hoess signed it.
>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>died in his cell.
>   Hoess statement read, "half an hour after having released the
>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>smoking."
>   Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>gassing? Zyclon-B is not "ventable". The manufacturers state
>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>workers ran into the gas chamber "eating and smoking" - without
>gas masks - only minutes after the gassing - IF THIS OCCURRED
>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>
>                    GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>
>   The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, "The Capture and Trial
>of Adolph Eichmann" pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>"became immediately gaseous."
>   The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: "We know of
>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air."
>
>                  CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>
>   Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), "We knew when the people
>were dead because their screaming stopped." If anyone were
>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>which carry typhus.
>
>               THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>
>   At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT'S ALL!  In these three
>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>ovens were very small with only 18' doors and a time period of
>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>stored at the camps for cremations.
>   A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>William L. Shirer's book, "The Rise and Fall of the Third
>Reich." It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>of people were gassed and then burned in this company's ovens.
>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>   "The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>burning."
>   WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>   On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people - this would
>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>ashes.
>   It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>could be found. The official answer was that it was "taken to
>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!"
>
>           WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>
>   Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>1967. "It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>systematic extermination in those camps."
>   Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: "I was at
>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there."
>   Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>"The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie - the
>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time."
>   Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. "The
>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel."
>
>                WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>
>   Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>holocaust which never occurred?
>   Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, "Not
>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists."
>   S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, "The
>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>will cowtow to the Jews."
>   Zionist spokesmen often boast of: "The shattering effect of
>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>of collective indebtedness to the Jews."
>   Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>condemned as being "anti-Semitic" and "insensitive" to holocaust
>victims.
>   The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>laws.
>
>                 A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>
>   The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>38 years. When they don't use the holocaust the money collection
>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>
>                 HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>
>   Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>Zionist political goals.



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On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:53:17 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:27:17 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>JEWISH NAZIS!
>>
>>How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>superstition driven 'religionist' rubbish behave
>>HERE in the very same manner as those once dreaded
>>Nazi Germans!  How dare those anti-social paranoid
>>nuisances who constantly carp and whine in the
>>ears of Australia's innocent tolerant and too long
>>suffering of them about the treatment mostly only
>>their relatives years ago received at the hands of
>>but one group of the world's still common stream
>>of 'monsters', behave that way here!  I.e. import
>>that despicable behaviour to their host country.
>>
>>The 'religionist' Australia Israel Review
>>obviously has not been influenced by
>>'Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and
>>publishing their 'list' of One Nation members, but
>>by the likes of Adolf Hitler!  The neo-nazi style
>>acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as
>>distinct from a likely majority of other Jews,
>>need to have a class action taken out against them
>>for the crime (among others) of 'common assault'.
>>
>>
>>And that very same not worthy of being even a fish
>>and chip wrapper :-) rag, deserves to be put to
>>flight and ultimately closed down, for the
>>cessation of the dividing of Australia by our
>>enemies various must soon become a priority for
>>Australia's intending survivor class.
>>
>>Harold.



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It appears that the Jew retard Yehudah Yeraslasky, who may be related
to former Soviet KGB staff, just can not read, or write in English,
even though he was at one time a student at Simon Fraser University in
canada, according to prior articles exposing him...
That is why is no longer posting from the school, since they took care
of it...


On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:09:42 -0600, Igal_Peacemaker@yahoo.com wrote:

>omerta@casanostra.com  reported::

>: You are too polite. The liar Igal just wants to malign the good people
>: of Poland, which is typical of disinformation by the KGB!!!

>: What can one expect from Yehudah Yeraslavsky, a student at Simon
>: Fraser U, allegedly from former Soviet KGB Jews???

>: To tell the truth?? LOFL



On 22 Jul 1998 20:05:46 GMT, ptrela@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Piotr Trela)
wrote:

>Igal_Peacemaker@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>: Dear Leszek, you position is exactly "my position". Unfortunately, the
>: position of Mr. Miroslav Goldberg is very close to old and mistaken behaviour
>: of so-call "galut Jews". We - modern Jewish warriors decent of David and
>: "Shlomo Melech" are very different from so-call "galut Jews" representative
>: here by Mr. Goldberg. 
>
>I must agree - Mr Goldberg IS very different from the person  who
>deliberately falsifies a "Daily Telegraph" article so he can insinuate
>Polish origin of an anti-Jewish terrorist;  who,  when caught red-handed
>on the forgery, never apologizes; and who signs his posts as I=P.
> 
>:I=P
>
>--------------------
>Piotr Trela



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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:12 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>
>>Translated from Polish:
>
>>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.
>
>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>
>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>Poland).
>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>big. 
>
>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>again came back to Poland. 
>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>He should.....
>
>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>



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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 19:59:08 GMT, sbjarnason trying to stimulate more
discussion of the problems of JEWS  wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:20:12 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:

>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>Christ.
>
>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>business.
>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>
>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>
>>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>in Brooklyn. 
>>
>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York representatives of
>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>community. 
>>
>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>lords. 
>>
>> "Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary Carter,
>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>charges. 
>>
>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>reporting requirements. 
>>
>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>attorney prosecuting the case. 
>>
>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>traffickers. 
>>
>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>>
>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 -- the amount
>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement --
>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>at the same location. 
>>
>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem. 
>>
>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in Hebrew. The
>>only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz Family of Mexico
>>Building." 
>>
>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>federal complaint. 
>>
>> The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service --
>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>officials said. 
>>
>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals --
>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>illicit drug profits. 
>>
>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday's
>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them --
>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to have brought in large sums
>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder. 
>>
>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>>
>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made out
>>to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions," the
>>federal complaint said. 
>>
>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>among the intermediaries. 
>>
>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>================================================================================
>>   The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>                           News Bureau and Archives Online
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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 18:22:38 GMT, sbjarnason trying desperately to
stimule more discussion  wrote:

On 23 Jun 1998 00:27:52 GMT, dswan@acs2.acs.ucalgary.ca (Daniel Swan)
wrote:

>steve mock (smock@veritas.nizkor.org) wrote:
>
>: What you constantly fail to grasp, Tavish, is that no one is denying that there were people of Jewish ancestry among
>: the Bolsheviks, or even that there weren't quite a few people of Jewish ancestry among the Bolsheviks.  What you
>: completely and utterly fail to understand is how collossal the leap of logic is which you ask us to make from that fact
>: to the conclusion that Bolshevism is some kind of a Jewish plot for which Jews bear collective responsibility.
>
>Logical leap or not, this raises an interesting question:  How
>can the overproportionate Jewish representation among the
>Bolsheviks be accounted for?


Perhaps the following text may help answer your rhetorical question...

Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation


Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called
"Russian
Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
and lead revolutionary movement.

	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,
Karl Marx,
was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 

	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism,
will
concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
that
passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
Archives:         
         
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet
government,
anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
         
State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July
5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government
in
each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        

>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type." 
       
         
A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports
on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were
384
`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come
to
Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
Government."         

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
foreign
affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
and
Moisei Uritsky. 

David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
little
for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."


In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
Propaganda
Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
United States Senate, 65th Congress: 

"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
side
of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased
that
there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of
these
men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element
in
this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
one
of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the
northern
community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
Soviet
regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
Gordon. 

I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
on
the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
because
there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
Petrograd,
but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the
agitators
were Jews. 

I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
that
was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
did not take kindly to it." 

Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 

"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London
April,
4, 1919) 
	
"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin,
Rabbi
S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 

Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:

"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs
characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death
penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
virtually untouched.

It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80
percent
of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
American professor of Russian history. . . "  

Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
were
murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
Communist bosses.
  
Regards,
Roger Hughes

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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 19:59:08 GMT, sbjarnason trying to stimulate more
discussion of the problems of JEWS  wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:20:12 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:

>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>Christ.
>
>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>business.
>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>
>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>
>>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>in Brooklyn. 
>>
>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York representatives of
>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>community. 
>>
>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>lords. 
>>
>> "Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary Carter,
>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>charges. 
>>
>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>reporting requirements. 
>>
>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>attorney prosecuting the case. 
>>
>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>traffickers. 
>>
>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>>
>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 -- the amount
>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement --
>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>at the same location. 
>>
>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem. 
>>
>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in Hebrew. The
>>only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz Family of Mexico
>>Building." 
>>
>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>federal complaint. 
>>
>> The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service --
>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>officials said. 
>>
>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals --
>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>illicit drug profits. 
>>
>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday's
>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them --
>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to have brought in large sums
>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder. 
>>
>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>>
>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made out
>>to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions," the
>>federal complaint said. 
>>
>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>among the intermediaries. 
>>
>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>================================================================================
>>   The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>                           News Bureau and Archives Online
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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 20:09:51 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

>In article <01bdec92$b78578c0$8014bcca@default>,
>  "David S. M. Ng"  wrote:
>> i beg to differ... just because soros is a jew and a currency speculator
>> DOES NOT mean that all currency speculators are JEWS!!
>>
>>  anyway, please keep your nazi statements to yourself.
>
>
>You have to understand the source of this material.  This is the work of Bill
>Grosvenor of Edmonton Canada hiding behind various fake names.	Currently he
>is using the fake name "sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org".  (I guess he must be
>mad at me... :-(
>
>Learn more about Bill Grosvenor, convicted criminal, former mental institution
>inmate and Barbie Doll collector in the Grosvenor FAQs:
>
>http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/
>http://www.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=251280192
>
>(Grosvenor is posting from an account at Telusplanet.net in Canada.  You tell
>by looking at the Message-ID line in the headers.  Any anti-Semitic or racist
>material you see posted here with ""
>as the Message-ID is from Grosvenor.  You can let Telusplanet know what
>Grosvenor is doing my mailing his articles, complete with headers, to
>abuse@telusplanet.net )
>
>Cheers,
>
>Sven
>
>
>
>> sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote in article
>> <361b2e21.230176304@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>...
>> > On 29 Sep 1998 22:05:48 +0800, "David S. M. Ng" 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >HELLO??!!! Vhat rr uu saying? please keep your racist comments to your
>> side
>> > >of the world.... we don't need another vhite man's opinion over here
>> thank
>> > >you very much.
>> >
>> > Since these newsgroups are mainly for people in Islamic countries, the
>> > problems associated with the christkiller JEWS is extremely relevant.
>> >
>> > Are you not concerned about money speculators such as the JEW SOROS?
>> > >
>
>
>P.S.: Bill, could you tell us some more about your Barbie dolls?
>
>(see http://www.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=120435350 )
>
>Subject:
>             TRADE for Peppermint Princess
>        Date:
>             29 Nov 1995 00:00:00 GMT
>       From:
>             acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca ()
> Organization:
>             Edmonton Freenet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
> Newsgroups:
>             rec.collecting.dolls
>
>
>
>
>Want to trade for Peppermint Princess NRFB.Can offer NRFB Limited Edition
>1995 Governors Ball Barbie.
>
>Let us know if you're interested.



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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 20:09:51 GMT, sbjarnason a JEW maggot  wrote:

On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org decided
to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:

>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>In article <353fd933.625226@news.datanet.ab.ca>, torquemada@inquisition.org
>>writes:

>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!

>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??

>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.

>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!

Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
weren't illegal.

>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>reports to prove this!!!

but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 

If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
other references  below, cited.

>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!

>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??

>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:

>>Sir,
>>  You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>an open liar?
>>                               irgun43

>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>> >Yesss!

>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”

>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.

>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:

>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle

>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html

>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--

>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.

>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>> book The War Against The Jews.

>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].

>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>> deportations."]

                         ____________________________

>>> Or how about this?

>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army

>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.

>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>> knowledge and approval.

>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."

>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]

>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.

>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.

>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.

>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>> Aryan.''

>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.

>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>> whose father was a Jew.

>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
 
>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
 
>>> Sources:
 
>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.

>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.

>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html

>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html

>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company

>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
 
>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>> by Reuters

>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
 
>>> See also:
>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company

>>> Dec. 26, 1996

>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>> served in Nazi army

>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>> Los Angeles Times

>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>> of Holocaust history.

>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.

>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>> whole story.]
>>> 
>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 19:53:14 GMT, sbjarnason a  defender of JEW
criminals  wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:20:12 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:

>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>Christ.
>
>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>business.
>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>
>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>
>>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>in Brooklyn. 
>>
>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York representatives of
>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>community. 
>>
>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>lords. 
>>
>> "Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary Carter,
>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>charges. 
>>
>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>reporting requirements. 
>>
>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>attorney prosecuting the case. 
>>
>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>traffickers. 
>>
>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>>
>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 -- the amount
>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement --
>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>at the same location. 
>>
>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem. 
>>
>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in Hebrew. The
>>only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz Family of Mexico
>>Building." 
>>
>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>federal complaint. 
>>
>> The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service --
>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>officials said. 
>>
>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals --
>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>illicit drug profits. 
>>
>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday's
>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them --
>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to have brought in large sums
>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder. 
>>
>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>>
>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made out
>>to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions," the
>>federal complaint said. 
>>
>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>among the intermediaries. 
>>
>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>================================================================================
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On Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:24:36 -0600, Ed Kadach 
wrote:

>WAS THERE REALLY A HOLOCAUST?
>                   By Dr. E. R. Fields
>
>   The Holocaust has become the greatest instrument of sympathy
>which any nation has ever been able to use to gain support for
>wars, expansion and foreign-aid: This has made Israel the
>world's sixth strongest military power. The gravest threat to
>all this wealth and influence is the growing doubt over the
>question of whether or not a real holocaust of 6 million Jews
>actual took place.
>
>              NUMBERS OF VICTIMS DON'T ADD UP
>
>   The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world
>Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanacs figures were
>supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Nest the Jewish owned
>New York Times of Feb. 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish
>population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000
>in the addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine."
>How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war
>years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?
>   With the rise of Hitler to power there were no more than 4
>million Jews at the most living in areas occupied by the Third
>Reich at the height of its power. On June 30, 1965, the
>West German government announced that some 3,375,000 Jewish
>holocaust "survivors" had applied for reparations money. The Red
>Cross reported in 1946 that of registered Jewish camp inmates no
>more than 300,000 could have died. It is interesting to note
>that in the Jews real "bible", The Talmud, it is claimed that
>800,000 Jews were slaughtered by the Romans in Hadrians era. Yet
>there is no historical evidence supporting this claim.
>   The Jewish owned New York Times, in 1945 carried an article
>by the well known Jewish writer C.L. Sulzberger. It openly
>stated Soviet Russia supplied the figure of 4 million Jews
>having been put to death "in the gas chambers of Auschwitz."
>Thus it was the communists and the Jews who initially originated
>these figures which today are accepted as "gospel truth".
>   It is claimed that from 1934 to 1945 some 50,000 people died
>in the huge Bergen-Belsen camp. This count is considered
>exaggerated, still Time Magazine reports that of this figure
>20,000 died of typhus during the single month of March, 1945! If
>nearly half died of this plague in just one month at the end of
>the war there is no way Bergen-Belsen could have been an
>"extermination camp".
>
>             HIMMLER-"REDUCE DEATHS AT ALL COSTS"
>
>   Heinrich Himmler, chief of the Concentration Camps issued
>orders on Dec. 28, 1942, that "The death rate in the
>concentration camps must be reduced at all costs." (Source,
>Reitlinger's book, "The Final Solution.")
>   The camps had been hit with a deadly typhus epidemic that
>spread by fleas and body lice. Stomach pain, high fever,
>emaciation and death can quickly follow. All of the camps were
>factories and the loss of workers was hurting war production.
>Inspector of the camps, Richard Glucks responded to Himmler's
>order on Jan 20, 1943, "Every means will be used to lower the
>death rates." (Source, Nuremberg Tribunal Document No. 1523.)
>   On April 10, 1943, Oswald Pohl, head of the Economic
>Administration Office of the camps issued a letter stating that
>persons with tuberculosis were being sent to the camps resulting
>in the "shockingly high mortality figures." (Source: Nuremberg
>Documents.) Later on Sept. 30, 1943, Pohl was able to show that
>the camp death rate had been reduced from 8.5% in July, 1942 to
>2.8% in June 1943.
>   The German SS arrested Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch in
>1943 for mistreating and even executing some prisoners. After an
>investigation Koch was found guilty by SS Judge Konrad Morgen
>and shot. Does this sound like a policy of "extermination?"
>   With suspicion rapidly rising about the holocaust claim a
>committee of Jewish leaders from New York and Paris met with
>communist leaders in Warsaw. There they established the
>"Committee for the Investigation of War Crimes and War
>Criminals". It was after this meeting that the announcement
>was made that all gas chambers were located in Poland.
>
>                  THE  PROBLEMS OF MASS GASSING
>
>   In 1945 it was announced that gas death chambers existed in
>all concentration camps in Poland, Germany, Austria and Alsace.
>Some 15 years later, in 1960, this was revised to the new claim
>that gas chambers existed only in camps located in Soviet held
>Poland. Simon Weisenthal of the Los Angeles Holocaust center
>states in the paper, "Books and Bookmen", April 1975, page 5,
>"No gassing took place in any camp on German soil."
>   The pressure had been growing since The Vatican, Red Cross,
>English Intelligence and German Intelligence chiefs Canaris and
>Oster (who collaborated with the British) either did not know or
>believe in rumors of gassings.
>
>   This brings up the following questions.
>   1) Germans are meticulous record keepers but there is not one
>order for the construction of any gas chamber, no blueprint, no
>photo of any gas chamber or gassed victims.
>   2) There have been thousands on investigations of alleged
>Nazi war criminals, hundreds of trials, yet not one person was
>ever accused of being involved with actual gassings! No reliable
>witness on either side has ever come forward who saw a single
>person gassed-AND THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN OVER 10,000
>MASS GASSINGS!
>   3) Photos of bodies at Dachau and Belsen camps are of
>prisoners who died of typhus and malnutrition. Many Germans also
>died from typhus.
>   4) The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed
>camp inmates at the end of the war about alleged gas chambers.
>the response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have
>not spoken of them." (From the Red Cross document No. 9925, June
>1946.)
>
>             FORCED CONFESSIONS OF GASSINGS
>
>   Rudoft Hoess was the commandant of Auschwitz from 1940 to
>1943. captured by the Soviets they extracted a confession to
>mass gassings using Zyclon-B gas. Such "confessions" are about
>as reliable as any forced by Stalin from victims tortured before
>taking the stand to confess during the Moscow show trials of
>1936. The communists wrote the "Confession' and Hoess signed it.
>Later he was hanged. An assistant commandant refused to sign-he
>died in his cell.
>   Hoess statement read, "half an hour after having released the
>gas, they opened the door and started the ventilation machines.
>They began immediately to extract the bodies while eating and
>smoking."
>   Was Hoess trying to get a message across that there were no
>gassing? Zyclon-B is not "ventable". The manufacturers state
>Zyclon-B adheres to surface clothing and skin. They say that
>only after a 24 hour period, wearing a gas mask with the
>strongest filter, could any bodies be removed without killing
>such workers. If we believe the Hoess confession that the
>workers ran into the gas chamber "eating and smoking" - without
>gas masks - only minutes after the gassing - IF THIS OCCURRED
>ALL WOULD HAVE DIED!
>
>                    GAS STORIES NOT POSSIBLE
>
>   The Jew Mosche Pearlmann in his book, "The Capture and Trial
>of Adolph Eichmann" pages 375 and 385 states Zyclon-B crystals
>were introduced from the ceilings of the gas chambers and
>"became immediately gaseous."
>   The American Cyanamid Co. of Linden N.J. states: "We know of
>no chemical process whereby HCN (Zyclon-B) may be made to become
>instantly gaseous upon exposure to air."
>
>                  CLAIMS OF WILLIAM SHIRER
>
>   Shirer claims the gas was released from overhead through fake
>shower outlets, (page 970) and quickly killed its victims. The
>truth is that Zyclon-B gas is lighter than air and would rise to
>the ceiling so that anyone throwing themselves to the floor
>would be saved. Shirer also quotes the Soviet written confession
>signed by Hoess as stating (page 968), "We knew when the people
>were dead because their screaming stopped." If anyone were
>actually killed with a cyanide type gas they would die instantly
>thus there would be no screaming at all. The truth is that
>Zyclon-B was used to delouse inmates clothing of lice and fleas
>which carry typhus.
>
>               THE PROBLEM OF THE CREMATORIUMS
>
>   At the Auschwitz I camp there were only 6 crematory ovens. At
>the hospital in Auschwitz II there are 46 single cremators. In
>the Lubin camp there were only 6. THAT'S ALL!  In these three
>camps 3 to 4 million Jews were supposed to have been
>exterminated and their bodies cremated. Also, these cremation
>ovens were very small with only 18' doors and a time period of
>from 4 to 6 hours burning for each body using a large amount of
>coal. Cremation for those who passed away was used in the camps
>to prevent epidemics. Also, no large supplies of coal were ever
>stored at the camps for cremations.
>   A VERY INTERESTING NOTE appears only in the German edition of
>William L. Shirer's book, "The Rise and Fall of the Third
>Reich." It seems the Didler-Werke Company, which built the
>crematory ovens, sued Shirer who previously wrote that millions
>of people were gassed and then burned in this company's ovens.
>In an out-of-court settlement of the suit Shirer agreed to add
>the following footnote on page 972 of the German edition:
>   "The Didler-Werke have raised objection to the name of their
>firm appearing in the chapter concerning the extermination
>camps. Dr. S. Trastel, a professor of engineering in a statement
>of Aug. 1961 established that the measurements are those which
>are standard for a crematory oven of not very modern design
>intended for small cemeteries and would be unsuitable for mass
>burning."
>   WHY IS THIS DELETED FROM THE ENGLISH EDITION???
>   On the question of cremating 6,000,000 people - this would
>leave 15,000 tons of ashes! Such gigantic piles of ashes created
>over the short 2 1/2 year period the holocaust supposedly took
>place would have been very difficult to dispose of. No one has
>ever come forward to report seeing such huge piles of tons of
>ashes.
>   It was not until 1960 that the Soviets opened the Auschwitz
>camp to tourists and independent investigators. No gas chamber
>could be found. The official answer was that it was "taken to
>another camp for gassings and then later went into oblivion!"
>
>           WHAT EXPERTS SAY ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST
>
>   Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes, eminent historian, author of 40
>books, many standard college texts, noted in Rampart Journal,
>1967. "It has been demonstrated that there had been no
>systematic extermination in those camps."
>   Thies Christopherden, a German soldier and author: "I was at
>Auschwitz! There was no gas chamber there."
>   Paul Rassiner, historian and anti-Nazi activist, who served a
>prison sentence in Buchenwald and the Dora camps stated in 1962.
>"The claim that a holocaust took place is an historic lie - the
>most tragic and most macabre imposture of all time."
>   Prof. Robert Faurisson, a specialist in Document Analysis at
>the University of Lyon. France, stated on April 25, 1979. "The
>holocaust lie, which is largely of Zionist origin, has made an
>enormous political and financial fraud possible, whose
>principal beneficiary is the state of Israel."
>
>                WHY THE HOLOCAUST CAMPAIGN
>
>   Hardly a week goes by when there are not stories in the
>press, on TV-News or movies about the alleged holocaust. What is
>the long range design for this constant attempt to fill Germans
>and indeed all Christians with a feeling of guilt over a
>holocaust which never occurred?
>   Bernard Postal wrote in the Jewish Week, July 14, 1979, "Not
>until after the holocaust, did anti-Semitism become taboo. There
>was a time when anti-Semitic speeches were an open factor in
>national campaigns. The holocaust put a taboo on overt anti-
>Semitism among upper-level statesmen and publicists."
>   S.E.D. Brown of South Africa, a noted journalist writes, "The
>holocaust instills a guilt complex in those said to be guilty
>and spreads the demoralization, degeneration, and eventually the
>destruction of the natural racial elite among a people. This
>transfers effective political control to the lowest elements who
>will cowtow to the Jews."
>   Zionist spokesmen often boast of: "The shattering effect of
>the holocaust on the Christian conscience resulting in a feeling
>of collective indebtedness to the Jews."
>   Massive unending U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel in made possible
>because anyone who dares to oppose these outrageous giveaways is
>condemned as being "anti-Semitic" and "insensitive" to holocaust
>victims.
>   The Jews hold an unnatural violent hatred for the German
>people. Jews seek to turn all other peoples of the world against
>the Germans and keep that nation divided for all time to come.
>That is why no peace treaty has ever been signed as yet with
>Germany and they still live under Allied military occupation
>laws.
>
>                 A QUESTION OF FUND RAISING
>
>   The Wall Street Journal quotes Jewish professional fund-
>raising consultant firm of Milton Goldin Co., as saying the main
>theme of Jewish fund-raising is the holocaust and has been for
>38 years. When they don't use the holocaust the money collection
>sharply drops off. Thus the more the Press, TV and Hollywood
>promotes the holocaust the more money the United Jewish Appeal
>and other Zionist funds can extract from gullible people.
>
>                 HOLOCAUST SILENCES OPPOSITION
>
>   Jewish leaders have discovered that by repeating holocaust
>stories over and over again they can instill a guilt complex
>within all Gentiles. This effectively silences most critics of
>Zionist political goals.



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On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:53:17 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 11:27:17 GMT, woody@eagles.bbs.net.au (Harold
>Wood) wrote:
>
>>JEWISH NAZIS!
>>
>>How dare those cynical pernicious professional
>>peddlers of guilt, those 'oonga boonga' mere
>>superstition driven 'religionist' rubbish behave
>>HERE in the very same manner as those once dreaded
>>Nazi Germans!  How dare those anti-social paranoid
>>nuisances who constantly carp and whine in the
>>ears of Australia's innocent tolerant and too long
>>suffering of them about the treatment mostly only
>>their relatives years ago received at the hands of
>>but one group of the world's still common stream
>>of 'monsters', behave that way here!  I.e. import
>>that despicable behaviour to their host country.
>>
>>The 'religionist' Australia Israel Review
>>obviously has not been influenced by
>>'Schindler'(sp?) in their act of constructing and
>>publishing their 'list' of One Nation members, but
>>by the likes of Adolf Hitler!  The neo-nazi style
>>acting Jews of that socially dangerous rag, as
>>distinct from a likely majority of other Jews,
>>need to have a class action taken out against them
>>for the crime (among others) of 'common assault'.
>>
>>
>>And that very same not worthy of being even a fish
>>and chip wrapper :-) rag, deserves to be put to
>>flight and ultimately closed down, for the
>>cessation of the dividing of Australia by our
>>enemies various must soon become a priority for
>>Australia's intending survivor class.
>>
>>Harold.



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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:12 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>
>>Translated from Polish:
>
>>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.
>
>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>
>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>Poland).
>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>big. 
>
>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>again came back to Poland. 
>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>He should.....
>
>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>



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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 18:22:38 GMT, sbjarnason trying desperately to
stimule more discussion  wrote:

On 23 Jun 1998 00:27:52 GMT, dswan@acs2.acs.ucalgary.ca (Daniel Swan)
wrote:

>steve mock (smock@veritas.nizkor.org) wrote:
>
>: What you constantly fail to grasp, Tavish, is that no one is denying that there were people of Jewish ancestry among
>: the Bolsheviks, or even that there weren't quite a few people of Jewish ancestry among the Bolsheviks.  What you
>: completely and utterly fail to understand is how collossal the leap of logic is which you ask us to make from that fact
>: to the conclusion that Bolshevism is some kind of a Jewish plot for which Jews bear collective responsibility.
>
>Logical leap or not, this raises an interesting question:  How
>can the overproportionate Jewish representation among the
>Bolsheviks be accounted for?


Perhaps the following text may help answer your rhetorical question...

Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation


Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called
"Russian
Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
and lead revolutionary movement.

	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,
Karl Marx,
was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 

	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism,
will
concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
that
passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
Archives:         
         
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet
government,
anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
         
State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July
5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government
in
each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        

>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type." 
       
         
A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports
on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were
384
`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come
to
Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
Government."         

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
foreign
affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
and
Moisei Uritsky. 

David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
little
for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."


In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
Propaganda
Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
United States Senate, 65th Congress: 

"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
side
of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased
that
there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of
these
men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element
in
this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
one
of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the
northern
community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
Soviet
regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
Gordon. 

I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
on
the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
because
there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
Petrograd,
but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the
agitators
were Jews. 

I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
that
was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
did not take kindly to it." 

Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 

"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London
April,
4, 1919) 
	
"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin,
Rabbi
S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 

Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:

"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs
characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death
penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
virtually untouched.

It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80
percent
of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
American professor of Russian history. . . "  

Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
were
murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
Communist bosses.
  
Regards,
Roger Hughes

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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 19:57:57 GMT, sbjarnason trying to stimulate more
anti-JEW comments  wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 1997 19:20:12 GMT, odessa88@direct.ca wrote:

>It seems that JEWS are not satisfied with having murdered Jesus
>Christ.
>
>Now some of them are involved, even from synagogues, in the DRUGS
>business.
>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>>
>>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>>
>>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>> rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to launder
>> and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics dealers by
>> routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue and a yeshiva
>>in Brooklyn. 
>>
>> The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought together
>>a collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York representatives of
>>Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who purportedly transported
>>cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with ties to a close-knit Jewish
>>community. 
>>
>> At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions of
>>dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively modest
>>Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from American and
>>Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the Colombian drug
>>lords. 
>>
>> "Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary Carter,
>>the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in announcing the
>>charges. 
>>
>> Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford Ave.,
>>and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in Brooklyn, were
>>arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day before U.S. Magistrate
>>Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy to launder money. Two
>>suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of 5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn,
>>also were charged with conspiring to avoid federal cash-transaction
>>reporting requirements. 
>>
>>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of 320
>>Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was released on
>>$750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal complaint were listed
>>as fugitives, and two more were being held in custody elsewhere in New
>>York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst, the assistant federal
>>attorney prosecuting the case. 
>>
>>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used court-authorized
>>wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal complaint charged that the
>>two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered $750,000 by taking cash from
>>go-betweens, depositing it in the bank accounts of a synagogue-based
>>organization and, after subtracting commissions, writing checks to drug
>>traffickers. 
>>
>>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the name
>>of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation Eitz Chaim
>>at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more than $19 million
>>during the 10-month period when the laundering transactions occurred,
>>between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>>
>>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to have
>>written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and Knobloch
>>were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in drug money
>>by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000 -- the amount
>>that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting requirement --
>>through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim and Bobover Yeshiva,
>>at the same location. 
>>
>>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was listed by
>> prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of people at
>>Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything about him or
>>the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim Shel Shulem. 
>>
>>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick front
>>and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in Hebrew. The
>>only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz Family of Mexico
>>Building." 
>>
>>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people were
>>studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who would not
>>give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis named in the
>>federal complaint. 
>>
>> The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service --
>>began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>>officials said. 
>>
>>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other techniques, the
>>investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in which Grunfeld and Knobloch
>>eventually made more than $1 million in deposits and withdrawals --
>>transactions, they said, that let the conspirators move large sums of
>>illicit drug profits. 
>>
>> Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in Monday's
>>complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five of them --
>>Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio Rodriguez, 30; Juan
>>Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to have brought in large sums
>>that Colombian drug dealers wanted to launder. 
>>
>>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40, and
>>Fabio Arana, both of
>>Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted and stashed the money at an
>>apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>>
>>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was later
>>deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel Shulem.
>>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made out
>>to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions," the
>>federal complaint said. 
>>
>>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no formal
>>connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said. Commissions of 13
>>percent to 15 percent were deducted from the laundered money and divided
>>among the intermediaries. 
>>
>> Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and drug
>>traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and Grunfeld, and
>>Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy a Beech Super King
>>aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>>================================================================================
>>   The Campaign for Radical Truth in History: http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>                           News Bureau and Archives Online
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On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:02:32 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

X-NO-ARCHIVE:YES

On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>
>>DAILY MAIL
>>Monday June 15 1998
>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>
>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>to clear his name.
>>
>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>to examine their records.
>>
>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>with the family.
>>
>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>
>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>end of this month.
>>
>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>Britain today.'
>>
>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
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It appears that the Jew retard Yehudah Yeraslasky, who may be related
to former Soviet KGB staff, just can not read, or write in English,
even though he was at one time a student at Simon Fraser University in
canada, according to prior articles exposing him...
That is why is no longer posting from the school, since they took care
of it...


On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:09:42 -0600, Igal_Peacemaker@yahoo.com wrote:

>omerta@casanostra.com  reported::

>: You are too polite. The liar Igal just wants to malign the good people
>: of Poland, which is typical of disinformation by the KGB!!!

>: What can one expect from Yehudah Yeraslavsky, a student at Simon
>: Fraser U, allegedly from former Soviet KGB Jews???

>: To tell the truth?? LOFL



On 22 Jul 1998 20:05:46 GMT, ptrela@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Piotr Trela)
wrote:

>Igal_Peacemaker@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
>: Dear Leszek, you position is exactly "my position". Unfortunately, the
>: position of Mr. Miroslav Goldberg is very close to old and mistaken behaviour
>: of so-call "galut Jews". We - modern Jewish warriors decent of David and
>: "Shlomo Melech" are very different from so-call "galut Jews" representative
>: here by Mr. Goldberg. 
>
>I must agree - Mr Goldberg IS very different from the person  who
>deliberately falsifies a "Daily Telegraph" article so he can insinuate
>Polish origin of an anti-Jewish terrorist;  who,  when caught red-handed
>on the forgery, never apologizes; and who signs his posts as I=P.
> 
>:I=P
>
>--------------------
>Piotr Trela



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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 18:12:42 GMT, sbjarnason who prefers faggots
wrote:

Muslim nations seem to have more sense and respect for normal humans,
than do the degenerate JEW run countries.

The only good faggot is a cremated one, whether dead or otherwise!!!

Immolate yourself, and then try to talk, if you can comprehend.


On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:00:05 +0700, Bigger 
wrote:

>Who gives a shite about major religions now? They are expiring in a couple of years
>and already smell.
>
>We got no time to make our way through 640 pages of crap. Check
>http://www.virusmyth.com for the truth about HIV/AIDS! Provided that your English is
>good enough to get beyond the front page.
>
>In the most advanced countries of the world: in Northern Europe, Northern America,
>Australia and NZ homosexuality is largely tolerated and even homosexual marriages,
>children adoption and many other issues are legalised.
>
>How much longer will M'sia and S'pore stick with an obviously outdated British law
>that is renounced and abolished by the British themselves? Scavenging on others'
>legal excrement won't do you any good!
>
>Knowing a smattering of manufacturing and finance does NOT make you an advanced or
>developed nation. High time to change your obsolete mentality and step forward in
>the human evolution.
>
>
>
>gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:27:56 GMT, subir.k.de@mail.sprint.com wrote:
>>
>> >ehooi97@pc.jaring.my wrote:
>> >> I respect your opinion but as you see, such act is against our Eastern as
>> >> well as Islamic culture especially in Malaysia which is considered an Islamic
>> >> country. Even other religions like Buddhism, Christianity & others prohibits
>> >> such act of the gays & lesbians.
>> >
>> >> Therefore, it is not appropriate to allow such homosexual conduct to be
>> >> allowed in Malaysia.
>>
>> Not only are the perverted criminal activities of faggots condemned by
>> all major religions, but it is well documented that AIDS was spread
>> worldwide by faggots!!!
>>
>> Read the documentary book of 640 pages entitled "AND THE BAND PLAYED
>> ON".
>>
>> It gives all the specifics about how AIDS was deliberately spread
>> worldwide by the criminal perverts.
>>
>> The only good faggot is a cremated one!!!
>> >
>> >Well, when I was growing up in my small town, people were much more tolerant
>> >of homosexuals. They were considered more of an oddity, more of a source of
>> >amusamusement, rather than the currently fashionable subject of National
>> >Morality Scrutiny.
>> >
>> >There can be no persecution of homosexuals under the pretext of 'appropriate
>> >behaviour'.
>> >
>> >     Subir De.
>> >
>> >-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==-----
>> >http://www.dejanews.com/rg_mkgrp.xp   Create Your Own Free Member Forum
sven88



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On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:08:13 GMT, kmcvay@nizkor.org wrote:
in between cheating JEWS and non-Jews with a tax fraud in Canada and
the USA, as mentioned by others who documented this:

On 13 Sep 1998 16:52:11 GMT, bushbadee@aol.com (BUSHBADEE) wrote:
>What is really almost as unbelieveable is the documented fact by a Brazilian
>Professor, that I am a kleptomaniacal
>child molester and I'm serving a 99 year to life sentence in a Romanian prison
>for jerking myself into insenility.
>The professor writes that the above has a IQ of 35 and is barely able to
>communicat 

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>
>>>Orest Slepokura  wrote:
>>
>>>>...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
>>>> Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...
>>
>>Her is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.
>>
>>The Kastner Case
>>
>>                              
>>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>>involving
>>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>>
>>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
>>are
>>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money
>>and
>>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the
>>Supreme
>>Court of Israel.
>>
>>                              The Accusations
>>
>>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>>
>>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>>Medical
>>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he
>>wrote:
>>
>>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>>certain
>>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>>
>>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
>>silence.
>>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
>>Jews
>>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
>>number is
>>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
>>was
>>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
>>Eichmann
>>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner
>>went
>>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>>
>>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>>took
>>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>>bargaining
>>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>>little
>>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>>pp261-2)
>>
>>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>>published in
>>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>>
>>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>>stands
>>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I
>>wanted
>>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>>was a
>>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>>keep
>>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>>It
>>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not
>>too
>>high for me.
>>
>>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>>smoke
>>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>>he
>>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>>
>>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>>of
>>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>>
>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand
>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You
>>can
>>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>deportation
>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>of 
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than
>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist
>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>>                                The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel
>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied
>>carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence
>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they
>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others
>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of
>>Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders
>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading
>>such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering
>>the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen
>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>these few
>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in
>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their
>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who
>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these
>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>to
>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination
>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>Budapest
>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>as a
>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on
>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>fatal
>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish
>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry
>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task
>>easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis
>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue
>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these
>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends
>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six
>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him
>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great
>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would
>>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the
>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to
>>the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order
>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between
>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>into
>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>promised
>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>Jews
>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner
>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and
>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and
>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from
>>the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put
>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only
>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to
>>evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall
>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>to
>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>June 22,
>>1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new
>>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of
>>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner
>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's
>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the
>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were
>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when
>>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the
>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to
>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove
>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony
>>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute
>>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth -
>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up
>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>the
>>affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to
>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>good
>>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>>intention of good Becher'.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his
>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World
>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate
>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>personal
>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions
>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>faith
>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's
>>affidavit
>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his
>>statements." 
>>
>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel
>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered
>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>as
>>court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to
>>much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>> 
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now
>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead
>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government
>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>What
>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on
>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of
>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was
>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National
>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>in
>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was
>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But
>>the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the 
>>name 
>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
>>rehabilitated'.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court -
>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>rehabilitated'.
>>
>>                        
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these
>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found
>>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>Greenwald of
>>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>>
>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the
>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove
>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner.
>>They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj,
>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of
>>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>vivid
>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>any
>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>Budapest,
>>protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews
>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither
>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the
>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>properly
>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when
>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from
>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even
>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say
>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews
>>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to
>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the
>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not
>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its
>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his
>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody
>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of
>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>with
>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District
>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his
>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a
>>moral and public point of view...
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who
>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one
>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton,
>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of
>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary
>>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian
>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many
>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>knowledge of
>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the
>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a
>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here
>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others....
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an
>>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of
>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few -
>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating
>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>though, in
>>fact, he brought about its result.'
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such
>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation
>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive
>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the
>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of
>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>etc. -
>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty
>>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue
>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he
>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as
>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a
>>claim of such good faith...
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die
>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come
>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual
>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He
>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete
>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation
>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was
>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner
>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this
>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the
>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the
>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and
>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting
>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>revolts,
>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>of
>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which
>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the
>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>>evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of
>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing
>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>base
>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is
>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>                         
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their
>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been
>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration
>>with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with
>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave
>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain
>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an
>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West
>>Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the
>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure
>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>what
>>might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue
>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial .
>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the 
>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>>Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was
>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in
>>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>1957
>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings
>>were
>>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was
>>delivered.
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the
>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).


sven88


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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:12 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>
>>Translated from Polish:
>
>>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.
>
>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>
>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>Poland).
>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>big. 
>
>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>again came back to Poland. 
>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>He should.....
>
>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>



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On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 18:22:38 GMT, sbjarnason trying desperately to
stimule more discussion  wrote:

On 23 Jun 1998 00:27:52 GMT, dswan@acs2.acs.ucalgary.ca (Daniel Swan)
wrote:

>steve mock (smock@veritas.nizkor.org) wrote:
>
>: What you constantly fail to grasp, Tavish, is that no one is denying that there were people of Jewish ancestry among
>: the Bolsheviks, or even that there weren't quite a few people of Jewish ancestry among the Bolsheviks.  What you
>: completely and utterly fail to understand is how collossal the leap of logic is which you ask us to make from that fact
>: to the conclusion that Bolshevism is some kind of a Jewish plot for which Jews bear collective responsibility.
>
>Logical leap or not, this raises an interesting question:  How
>can the overproportionate Jewish representation among the
>Bolsheviks be accounted for?


Perhaps the following text may help answer your rhetorical question...

Subject: Jews Dominated Bolshevism - Don't Deny It
From: ipm@usaor.net (Roger Hughes)
Date: 22 Jul 1997 12:32:44 GMT
Organization: Anti-Hypocrisy Foundation


Patriot Fact Sheet : The Jews and Bolshevism 
	
	One of the most hushed-up facts concerning the so-called
"Russian
Revolution" of 1917 is that Jews constituted the overwhelming majority
of the Bolshevik leadership. While the Jews, and those sympathetic to
them, continue to condemn anyone as "anti-Semitic" who brings up these
facts, it remains undeniable that communism was both a Jewish created
and lead revolutionary movement.

	First, it is a well known fact that the father of communism,
Karl Marx,
was a Jew and descended from long list of rabbis on his father's side.
Whether he was a "religous" Jew is of no significant importance, since
Jewishness is not defined exclusively by adherance to Judaism. A great
bulk of Jews today would probably identify themselves as atheists, but
also nonetheless consider themselves Jews. 

	While some persons, who deny Jewish involvement in communism,
will
concede that Marx was indeed Jewish, let's see the them deny the
communist-Jewish connection as clearly exposed in diplomatic cables
that
passed between American representatives in Russia and Washington D.C.
during the time of the Bolshevik take-over of Russia. The following
quotes are taken directly from documents available from the U.S.
Archives:         
         
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominant in local Soviet
government,
anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."         
         
State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July
5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet government
in
each town consists of Jews of the worst type."        

>From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomey Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type." 
       
         
A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports
on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here were
384
`commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen, 22
Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had come
to
Russia from the United States since the downfall of the Imperial
Government."         

With the notable exception of Lenin (Vladimir Ulyanov), most of the
leading Communists who took control of Russia in 1917-20 were Jews.
(Lenin has since been discovered by a former Soviet general, who had
access to the KGB archives, that Lenin was at least 25% Jewish!) Leon
Trotsky (Lev Bronstein) headed the Red Army and, for a time, was chief
of Soviet foreign affairs. Yakov Sverdlov (Solomon) was both the
Bolshevik party's executive secretary and - as chairman of the Central
Executive Committee - head of the Soviet government. Grigori Zinoviev
(Radomyslsky) headed the Communist International (Comintern), the
central agency for spreading revolution in foreign countries. Other
prominent Jews included press commissar Karl Radek (Sobelsohn),
foreign
affairs commissar Maxim Litvinov (Wallach), Lev Kamenev (Rosenfeld)
and
Moisei Uritsky. 

David R. Francis, United States ambassador in Russia, warned in a
January 1918 dispatch to Washington: "The Bolshevik leaders here, most
of whom are Jews and 90 percent of whom are returned exiles, care
little
for Russia or any other country but are internationalists and they are
trying to start a worldwide social revolution." 

The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."


In case anyone thinks I've taken a few selected quotes out-of-context,
here's three paragraphs from Dr. George A. Simons, a former
superintendent of the Methodist Missions in Russia, Bolshevik
Propaganda
Hearing Before the Sub-Committee of the Committee on the Judiciary,
United States Senate, 65th Congress: 

"We were told that hundreds of agitators had followed in the trail of
Trotsky (Bronstein) these men having come over from the lower east
side
of New York. Some of them when they learned that I was the American
Pastor in Petrograd, stepped up to me and seemed very much pleased
that
there was somebody who could speak English, and their broken English
showed that they had not qualified as being Americas. A number of
these
men called on me and were impressed with the strange Yiddish element
in
this thing right from the beginning, and it soon became evident that
more than half the agitators in the socalled Bolshevik movement were
Jews...I have a firm conviction that this thing is Yiddish, and that
one
of its bases is found in the east side of New York...The latest
startling information, given me by someone with good authority,
startling information, is this, that in December, 1918, in the
northern
community of Petrograd that is what they call the section of the
Soviet
regime under the Presidency of the man known as Apfelbaum (Zinovieff)
out of 388 members, only 16 happened to be real Russians, with the
exception of one man, a Negro from America who calls himself Professor
Gordon. 

I was impressed with this, Senator, that shortly after the great
revolution of the winter of 1917, there were scores of Jews standing
on
the benches and soap boxes, talking until their mouths frothed, and I
often remarked to my sister, 'Well, what are we coming to anyway. This
all looks so Yiddish.' Up to that time we had see very few Jews,
because
there was, as you know, a restriction against having Jews in
Petrograd,
but after the revolution they swarmed in there and most of the
agitators
were Jews. 

I might mention this, that when the Bolshevik came into power all over
Petrograd, we at once had a predominance of Yiddish proclamations, big
posters and everything in Yiddish. It became very evident that now
that
was to be one of the great languages of Russia; and the real Russians
did not take kindly to it." 

Some might automatically assume that the preceeding sources are
"anti-Semitic" and therefore unreliable, but they'd be wrong. Here's a
few Jewish sources that essentially substantiate the previous ones:

"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920) 

"There is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact that so
many Jews are Bolshevists. The ideals of Bolshevism are consonant with
many of the highest ideals of Judaism." (Jewish Chronicle, London
April,
4, 1919) 
	
"Some call it Marxism I call it Judaism." (The American Bulletin,
Rabbi
S. Wise, May 5, 1935).

"In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet
communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of
the total population." (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81) 

Interestinly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:

"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs
characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an
extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death
penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

While Christian churches across Russia were being destroyed and
clergymen murdered by Communist gangs, synogoges and rabbis were left
virtually untouched.

It was during this time that Bolshevik Commissars (many of them Jews)
conducted a horrendous reign of terror against the non-Jewish Russian
population. In one case alone, they deliberately starved to death 20
million Ukranian farmers during the 1920's in one of the most vile
campaigns in history: In (the) Ukraine, "Jews made up nearly 80
percent
of the rank-and-file Cheka agents," reports W. Bruce Lincoln, an
American professor of Russian history. . . "  

Some modern historians estimate that upwards of 85 million persons
were
murdered in the 70 years of communist rule in Russia, many of them
directly at the hands of Jews, and even more at the order of Jewish
Communist bosses.
  
Regards,
Roger Hughes

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On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:02:32 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

X-NO-ARCHIVE:YES

On Sun, 06 Sep 1998 06:28:05 GMT, bjarnasson@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jun 1998 01:53:37 GMT, NSWPP  wrote:
>
>>LARGEST Social Security Fraud in London's History
>>
>>DAILY MAIL
>>Monday June 15 1998
>>By DAVID WILLIAMS and PETER ALLEN
>>
>>
>>Revealed: The men accused in 
>>31.8 million State Benefit Racket
>>
>>THESE are the men being investigated by fraud-busters 
>>over an alleged 1.8 million benefits racket. The case was 
>>highlighted last month by Welfare Reform Minister Frank 
>>Field as part of a crack-down launched by Labour aimed at 
>>slashing the £36 billion annual cost of welfare fraud.
>>
>>At the time, no one was named. But the Daily Mail has 
>>since tracked down the men at the heart of one of the biggest 
>>ever alleged welfare frauds.
>>
>>They are Soloman Kritzler, 39, and Alexander Eichenstein, 38, 
>>who are suspected of masterminding the racket from their 
>>sprawling homes in a North London suburb.
>>
>>Detectives have questioned the men and four other members of 
>>what Mr Field described as 'an extended family' about 
>>allegations of illegally claiming up to £3,600,000 in housing 
>>benefit and income support. They have also been quizzed 
>>by officers from a special undercover task force set up by 
>>the Department of Social Security (DSS) about a mortgage 
>>fraud worth £31.2 million.
>>
>>The investigators are said to be checking on any links with 
>>massive welfare rackets in the United States, where members 
>>of the family, it has been reported, are alleged to have used 
>>fake identities to make bogus benefit claims.
>>
>>Both men hold trusted positions at the centre of the 
>>ultra-Orthodox community of Hasidic Jews in Stamford Hill, 
>>North London, where details of the unprecedented investigation 
>>has caused consider-able anger.
>>
>>At the home he shares with his wife Esther and their daughter, 
>>Kritzler protested his innocence and said he would fight 
>>to clear his name.
>>
>>'This investigation is without foundation and is a complete 
>>waste of taxpayers' money,' he insisted. 'All of our finances 
>>are in good order. There has been no fraud.
>>
>>'It may well be that we are the victims of anti-semitism. 
>>This seems to be an attack on the law-abiding, decent 
>>community which we have here. We just want to be able to 
>>get on with our lives in peace.
>>
>>'When we were arrested, a very sick woman was put in a 
>>police cell for a night. She was terribly distressed. 
>>This should not have been allowed to happen.'
>>
>>Eichenstein was less forthcoming and when approached 
>>at his family home, his wife Rivka said: 'He has no 
>>comment to make.' Eichenstein lists his official home 
>>as a rundown flat some three streets from the spacious home 
>>where his wife and children live.
>>
>>Partners at the North London chartered accountancy firm 
>>which acts as the registered office for the majority of 
>>the men's companies con-firmed that they had been contacted 
>>by detectives, and that fraud experts were preparing 
>>to examine their records.
>>
>>Fraud investigators are focusing their inquiries on a 
>>network of companies and properties associated 
>>with the family.
>>
>>All of the properties linked to Kritzler and Eichenstein 
>>are within a stone's throw of each other on the Stamford 
>>Hill/Stoke Newington borders. One firm, Acemark Properties 
>>Ltd. is listed at Eichenstein's home.
>>
>>Kritzler has been director of London-based Empire properties 
>>since January and Amvex Investments since 1992.
>>
>>The streets of Stamford Hill are an unlikely setting for a 
>>major investigation of this kind. The area enjoys a feeling 
>>of neighbourly trust long lost in the crime-ridden districts nearby.
>>
>>Police activity is all but non-existent - patrol cars are 
>>already overstretched by the criminal activity related 
>>to the numerous drug dealers and prostitutes in the 
>>southern sector of the Stoke Newington police beat.
>>
>>
>>Both men, together with three women and another man to 
>>whom they are related are currently on bail and have to 
>>return to Stoke Newington police station at the 
>>end of this month.
>>
>>The arrest of the suspects -following simultaneous raids 
>>on four houses in April - is seen by Mr Field as the first 
>>of a series of high profile swoops by the new DSS team.
>>
>>Ministers have decided that they want to 'name and shame' 
>>convicted benefit cheats in an attempt to foster a 
>>'revival of common decencies'.
>>
>>The pilot DSS task force was set up to target organised 
>>housing benefit rackets in London - an initiative which 
>>the Government now plans to extend right across the country.
>>
>>The team discovered that professional crooks were exploiting 
>>loopholes in welfare security to set up fictitious 
>>identities and make bogus claims for a wide range of 
>>benefit allowances in various parts of London and 
>>other cities in Britain.
>>
>>Mr Field is determined to crack down on an area of crime 
>>bleeding tens of millions of pounds each week.
>>
>>The Minister said: 'We are going for the big boys, while 
>>at the same time recognising that we have to bring in much 
>>tighter controls on what is the single biggest budget in 
>>Britain today.'
>>
>>He has admitted that the annual benefits bill of nearly £31 
>>billion remains wide open to fraud and corruption despite 
>>repeated attempts by Whitehall to crack down on the swindlers.
-88-


From sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org Mon Oct  5 03:07:13 EDT 1998
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It appears that the Jew retard Yehudah Yeraslasky, who may be related
to former Soviet KGB staff, just can not read, or write in English,
even though he was at one time a student at Simon Fraser University in
canada, according to prior articles exposing him...
That is why is no longer posting from the school, since they took care
of it...


On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:09:42 -0600, Igal_Peacemaker@yahoo.com wrote:

>omerta@casanostra.com  reported::

>: You are too polite. The liar Igal just wants to malign the good people
>: of Poland, which is typical of disinformation by the KGB!!!

>: What can one expect from Yehudah Yeraslavsky, a student at Simon
>: Fraser U, allegedly from former Soviet KGB Jews???

>: To tell the truth?? LOFL

>The truth is that it is not CASAnostra which mean "our building", but if you
>aping the mafia it should be COSAnostra "our business".


The retard is complaining about someone using the CASANOSTRA sig,
which stands for our house?? What a doofus!!!

>Understand, shmack?
sven88


On Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:14:35 -0700 (PDT), calif4U2@webtv.net (beachboy)
wrote:

>Expelled Jews from Spain in Middle Ages moved to Poland. Few hundreds
>years later Russia invaded Poland, and take over half of the Poland. All
>polish Jews from this part of Poland become automatic russian Jews until
>today. So, Igal your roots are in Poland and you Polish too!
>
>             beachboy~~~~~califusa
>I may be fat, but you`re ugly and  I can diet! (from car bumper-sticker)                                                                                                



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On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:17:36 +0100, "T. Stadler"
 some maggot supporting jew criminals,
while living in the uk wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>[blah blah blah...]
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:

>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering

By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997

NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics
dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue
and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 

The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
togethera collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 

At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
Colombian drug lords. 

"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
announcing the charges. 

Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 

Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 

Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
court-authorized wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal
complaint charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered
$750,000 by taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank
accounts of a synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting
commissions, writing checks to drug traffickers. 

Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 

Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 

The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
Shel Shulem. 

The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
Family of Mexico Building." 

In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
named in the federal complaint. 

The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
officials said. 

With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 

Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
launder. 

The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 

There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
Shulem.

Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
the federal complaint said. 

Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 

Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
=================================================================
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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:27:33 GMT, polis-etica@NOSPAMmailcity.com
(polis-etica) wrote:

>One of the most popular and successful ways to launder money is
>through Jewish religious institutions, such as yeshivas and
>synagogues. One reason for the growing power of the Jews in the
>laundering drug money business is the Law of Return with its easy
>possibility of escape to Israel. The Jewish religious institutions
>badly need funds. The Colombians drug traders can be generous. They
>transfer their drug money "which go to the Jewish religious
>institutions one way and come out by the other way back to the donors.
>The synagogue or yeshiva obtain a respectable percentage for its pious
>uses. Everyone is happy: the drug barons who launder their money
>quickly and efficiently and the synagogue or yeshiva which makes easy
>money. In May 1993, five members of Jewish international laundering
>which had worked with the Kali cartel were arrested. The ring was
>exposed following an FBI 'sting' operation, in the framework of which
>it established a dummy corporation called Prism, which served the gang
>for laundering money. The head of the ring was an Israeli named Zion
>Ya'akov Evenheim, known as 'Zero' Evenheim who had a dual Israeli and
>Colombian citizenship, stayed in Kali, from where he coordinated the
>activity and supervised the transfers of money. Evenheim was arrested
>by Interpol in Switzerland and extradited to the U.S.. 

sven88



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On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:17:36 +0100, "T. Stadler"
 some maggot supporting jew criminals,
while living in the uk wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>[blah blah blah...]
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:

>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering

By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997

NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics
dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue
and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 

The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
togethera collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 

At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
Colombian drug lords. 

"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
announcing the charges. 

Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 

Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 

Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
court-authorized wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal
complaint charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered
$750,000 by taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank
accounts of a synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting
commissions, writing checks to drug traffickers. 

Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 

Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 

The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
Shel Shulem. 

The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
Family of Mexico Building." 

In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
named in the federal complaint. 

The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
officials said. 

With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 

Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
launder. 

The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 

There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
Shulem.

Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
the federal complaint said. 

Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 

Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:27:33 GMT, polis-etica@NOSPAMmailcity.com
(polis-etica) wrote:

>One of the most popular and successful ways to launder money is
>through Jewish religious institutions, such as yeshivas and
>synagogues. One reason for the growing power of the Jews in the
>laundering drug money business is the Law of Return with its easy
>possibility of escape to Israel. The Jewish religious institutions
>badly need funds. The Colombians drug traders can be generous. They
>transfer their drug money "which go to the Jewish religious
>institutions one way and come out by the other way back to the donors.
>The synagogue or yeshiva obtain a respectable percentage for its pious
>uses. Everyone is happy: the drug barons who launder their money
>quickly and efficiently and the synagogue or yeshiva which makes easy
>money. In May 1993, five members of Jewish international laundering
>which had worked with the Kali cartel were arrested. The ring was
>exposed following an FBI 'sting' operation, in the framework of which
>it established a dummy corporation called Prism, which served the gang
>for laundering money. The head of the ring was an Israeli named Zion
>Ya'akov Evenheim, known as 'Zero' Evenheim who had a dual Israeli and
>Colombian citizenship, stayed in Kali, from where he coordinated the
>activity and supervised the transfers of money. Evenheim was arrested
>by Interpol in Switzerland and extradited to the U.S.. 

sven88



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On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:14:46 GMT, doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com
(Gunther Schiller) wrote:

>Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

>From: billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn)
>Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
>References: <34b7fca0.787215011@news.smart1.net>
>Subject: Re: An observation

>On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:

>Dear Gunther, Mr. Schiller, Droogie, Jerry, A White, etc etc...

>>>. I am actually a Jew named Saul Rabinowicz
>>>and I run Champions Bagelry in Rosenberg, Texas.

>>Checked the phone book. No such person, place. Therefore, for starters, 
>>you are a liar.

>Look at the above Bill! Who's the liar? You don't know me too well to
>not know when I am speaking tongue in cheek to a person such as you!
>So now you are stalking me too? Shame on you naughty anti-Arab bigot.

>>> You don't have to
>>>be a Gentile to dislike the majority of Jews

>>You don't know the majority of Jews. In fact you may not know any.
>
>I know the ones on USENET and most of them I wouldn't fart in their
>face if they were in need of artificial respiration.
>
>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>Amazing. Blame Hitler on the Jews? What a laugh. And I thought Stalin was a
>>reach. 
>>No, there were no Jews in Hitler's inner circle. Pure non-sense.
>
>Wanna bet o' clueless one? You are damned good at running your mouth
>and offering your opinion, along with your undocumented uses of the
>telephone BUT I have my facts together!
>
>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>Specific example. Pure fantasy. Please make something up
>
>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>book The War Against The Jews.
>
>Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>* April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>* ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>deportations."]
>
>			____________________________
>
>Or how about this?
>
>                                       Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>speaking of World War Two.
>
>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge and approval.
>
>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>Aryan.''
>
>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>whose father was a Jew.
>
>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>
>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>Sources:
>
>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>		----------------------------------
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>
>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Thursday, April 3, 1997 
>
>Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces 
>
>by Reuters 
>
>BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>
>See also:
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>
>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Dec. 26, 1996 
>
>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>served in Nazi army 
>
>by William D. Montalbano
>Los Angeles Times 
>
>LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>of Holocaust history. 
>
>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. 
>
>"Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>whole story.]
>
> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html 
>
>			----------------------------------
>
>>.>Did the Bolsheviks give exemptions?
>
>>You tell me.
>
>No, they did not!



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On Fri, 02 Oct 1998 20:37:18 +1000, sbjarnason@hotmail.com  the
wellknown JEW faggot wrote:

Muslim nations seem to have more sense and respect for normal humans,
than do the degenerate JEW run countries.

The only good faggot is a cremated one, whether dead or otherwise!!!

Immolate yourself, and then try to talk, if you can comprehend.
sven88


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On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:17:36 +0100, "T. Stadler"
 some maggot supporting jew criminals,
while living in the uk wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>[blah blah blah...]
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:

>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering

By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997

NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics
dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue
and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 

The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
togethera collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 

At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
Colombian drug lords. 

"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
announcing the charges. 

Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 

Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 

Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
court-authorized wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal
complaint charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered
$750,000 by taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank
accounts of a synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting
commissions, writing checks to drug traffickers. 

Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 

Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 

The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
Shel Shulem. 

The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
Family of Mexico Building." 

In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
named in the federal complaint. 

The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
officials said. 

With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 

Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
launder. 

The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 

There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
Shulem.

Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
the federal complaint said. 

Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 

Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:27:33 GMT, polis-etica@NOSPAMmailcity.com
(polis-etica) wrote:

>One of the most popular and successful ways to launder money is
>through Jewish religious institutions, such as yeshivas and
>synagogues. One reason for the growing power of the Jews in the
>laundering drug money business is the Law of Return with its easy
>possibility of escape to Israel. The Jewish religious institutions
>badly need funds. The Colombians drug traders can be generous. They
>transfer their drug money "which go to the Jewish religious
>institutions one way and come out by the other way back to the donors.
>The synagogue or yeshiva obtain a respectable percentage for its pious
>uses. Everyone is happy: the drug barons who launder their money
>quickly and efficiently and the synagogue or yeshiva which makes easy
>money. In May 1993, five members of Jewish international laundering
>which had worked with the Kali cartel were arrested. The ring was
>exposed following an FBI 'sting' operation, in the framework of which
>it established a dummy corporation called Prism, which served the gang
>for laundering money. The head of the ring was an Israeli named Zion
>Ya'akov Evenheim, known as 'Zero' Evenheim who had a dual Israeli and
>Colombian citizenship, stayed in Kali, from where he coordinated the
>activity and supervised the transfers of money. Evenheim was arrested
>by Interpol in Switzerland and extradited to the U.S.. 

sven88



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It appears that the Jew retard Yehudah Yeraslasky, who may be related
to former Soviet KGB staff, just can not read, or write in English,
even though he was at one time a student at Simon Fraser University in
canada, according to prior articles exposing him...
That is why is no longer posting from the school, since they took care
of it...


On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:09:42 -0600, Igal_Peacemaker@yahoo.com wrote:

>omerta@casanostra.com  reported::

>: You are too polite. The liar Igal just wants to malign the good people
>: of Poland, which is typical of disinformation by the KGB!!!

>: What can one expect from Yehudah Yeraslavsky, a student at Simon
>: Fraser U, allegedly from former Soviet KGB Jews???

>: To tell the truth?? LOFL

>The truth is that it is not CASAnostra which mean "our building", but if you
>aping the mafia it should be COSAnostra "our business".


The retard is complaining about someone using the CASANOSTRA sig,
which stands for our house?? What a doofus!!!

>Understand, shmack?
sven88


On Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:14:35 -0700 (PDT), calif4U2@webtv.net (beachboy)
wrote:

>Expelled Jews from Spain in Middle Ages moved to Poland. Few hundreds
>years later Russia invaded Poland, and take over half of the Poland. All
>polish Jews from this part of Poland become automatic russian Jews until
>today. So, Igal your roots are in Poland and you Polish too!
>
>             beachboy~~~~~califusa
>I may be fat, but you`re ugly and  I can diet! (from car bumper-sticker)                                                                                                



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On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:14:46 GMT, doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com
(Gunther Schiller) wrote:

>Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

>From: billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn)
>Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
>References: <34b7fca0.787215011@news.smart1.net>
>Subject: Re: An observation

>On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:

>Dear Gunther, Mr. Schiller, Droogie, Jerry, A White, etc etc...

>>>. I am actually a Jew named Saul Rabinowicz
>>>and I run Champions Bagelry in Rosenberg, Texas.

>>Checked the phone book. No such person, place. Therefore, for starters, 
>>you are a liar.

>Look at the above Bill! Who's the liar? You don't know me too well to
>not know when I am speaking tongue in cheek to a person such as you!
>So now you are stalking me too? Shame on you naughty anti-Arab bigot.

>>> You don't have to
>>>be a Gentile to dislike the majority of Jews

>>You don't know the majority of Jews. In fact you may not know any.
>
>I know the ones on USENET and most of them I wouldn't fart in their
>face if they were in need of artificial respiration.
>
>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>Amazing. Blame Hitler on the Jews? What a laugh. And I thought Stalin was a
>>reach. 
>>No, there were no Jews in Hitler's inner circle. Pure non-sense.
>
>Wanna bet o' clueless one? You are damned good at running your mouth
>and offering your opinion, along with your undocumented uses of the
>telephone BUT I have my facts together!
>
>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>Specific example. Pure fantasy. Please make something up
>
>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>book The War Against The Jews.
>
>Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>* April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>* ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>deportations."]
>
>			____________________________
>
>Or how about this?
>
>                                       Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>speaking of World War Two.
>
>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge and approval.
>
>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>Aryan.''
>
>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>whose father was a Jew.
>
>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>
>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>Sources:
>
>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>		----------------------------------
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>
>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Thursday, April 3, 1997 
>
>Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces 
>
>by Reuters 
>
>BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>
>See also:
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>
>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Dec. 26, 1996 
>
>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>served in Nazi army 
>
>by William D. Montalbano
>Los Angeles Times 
>
>LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>of Holocaust history. 
>
>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. 
>
>"Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>whole story.]
>
> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html 
>
>			----------------------------------
>
>>.>Did the Bolsheviks give exemptions?
>
>>You tell me.
>
>No, they did not!



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On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:14:46 GMT, doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com
(Gunther Schiller) wrote:

>Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

>From: billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn)
>Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
>References: <34b7fca0.787215011@news.smart1.net>
>Subject: Re: An observation

>On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:

>Dear Gunther, Mr. Schiller, Droogie, Jerry, A White, etc etc...

>>>. I am actually a Jew named Saul Rabinowicz
>>>and I run Champions Bagelry in Rosenberg, Texas.

>>Checked the phone book. No such person, place. Therefore, for starters, 
>>you are a liar.

>Look at the above Bill! Who's the liar? You don't know me too well to
>not know when I am speaking tongue in cheek to a person such as you!
>So now you are stalking me too? Shame on you naughty anti-Arab bigot.

>>> You don't have to
>>>be a Gentile to dislike the majority of Jews

>>You don't know the majority of Jews. In fact you may not know any.
>
>I know the ones on USENET and most of them I wouldn't fart in their
>face if they were in need of artificial respiration.
>
>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>Amazing. Blame Hitler on the Jews? What a laugh. And I thought Stalin was a
>>reach. 
>>No, there were no Jews in Hitler's inner circle. Pure non-sense.
>
>Wanna bet o' clueless one? You are damned good at running your mouth
>and offering your opinion, along with your undocumented uses of the
>telephone BUT I have my facts together!
>
>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>Specific example. Pure fantasy. Please make something up
>
>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>book The War Against The Jews.
>
>Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>* April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>* ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>deportations."]
>
>			____________________________
>
>Or how about this?
>
>                                       Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>speaking of World War Two.
>
>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge and approval.
>
>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>Aryan.''
>
>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>whose father was a Jew.
>
>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>
>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>Sources:
>
>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>		----------------------------------
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>
>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Thursday, April 3, 1997 
>
>Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces 
>
>by Reuters 
>
>BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>
>See also:
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>
>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Dec. 26, 1996 
>
>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>served in Nazi army 
>
>by William D. Montalbano
>Los Angeles Times 
>
>LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>of Holocaust history. 
>
>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. 
>
>"Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>whole story.]
>
> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html 
>
>			----------------------------------
>
>>.>Did the Bolsheviks give exemptions?
>
>>You tell me.
>
>No, they did not!



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It appears that the Jew retard Yehudah Yeraslasky, who may be related
to former Soviet KGB staff, just can not read, or write in English,
even though he was at one time a student at Simon Fraser University in
canada, according to prior articles exposing him...
That is why is no longer posting from the school, since they took care
of it...


On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:09:42 -0600, Igal_Peacemaker@yahoo.com wrote:

>omerta@casanostra.com  reported::

>: You are too polite. The liar Igal just wants to malign the good people
>: of Poland, which is typical of disinformation by the KGB!!!

>: What can one expect from Yehudah Yeraslavsky, a student at Simon
>: Fraser U, allegedly from former Soviet KGB Jews???

>: To tell the truth?? LOFL

>The truth is that it is not CASAnostra which mean "our building", but if you
>aping the mafia it should be COSAnostra "our business".


The retard is complaining about someone using the CASANOSTRA sig,
which stands for our house?? What a doofus!!!

>Understand, shmack?
sven88


On Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:14:35 -0700 (PDT), calif4U2@webtv.net (beachboy)
wrote:

>Expelled Jews from Spain in Middle Ages moved to Poland. Few hundreds
>years later Russia invaded Poland, and take over half of the Poland. All
>polish Jews from this part of Poland become automatic russian Jews until
>today. So, Igal your roots are in Poland and you Polish too!
>
>             beachboy~~~~~califusa
>I may be fat, but you`re ugly and  I can diet! (from car bumper-sticker)                                                                                                



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On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:14:46 GMT, doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com
(Gunther Schiller) wrote:

>Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:

>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0

>From: billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn)
>Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
>References: <34b7fca0.787215011@news.smart1.net>
>Subject: Re: An observation

>On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:

>Dear Gunther, Mr. Schiller, Droogie, Jerry, A White, etc etc...

>>>. I am actually a Jew named Saul Rabinowicz
>>>and I run Champions Bagelry in Rosenberg, Texas.

>>Checked the phone book. No such person, place. Therefore, for starters, 
>>you are a liar.

>Look at the above Bill! Who's the liar? You don't know me too well to
>not know when I am speaking tongue in cheek to a person such as you!
>So now you are stalking me too? Shame on you naughty anti-Arab bigot.

>>> You don't have to
>>>be a Gentile to dislike the majority of Jews

>>You don't know the majority of Jews. In fact you may not know any.
>
>I know the ones on USENET and most of them I wouldn't fart in their
>face if they were in need of artificial respiration.
>
>>> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>Amazing. Blame Hitler on the Jews? What a laugh. And I thought Stalin was a
>>reach. 
>>No, there were no Jews in Hitler's inner circle. Pure non-sense.
>
>Wanna bet o' clueless one? You are damned good at running your mouth
>and offering your opinion, along with your undocumented uses of the
>telephone BUT I have my facts together!
>
>http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>Specific example. Pure fantasy. Please make something up
>
>You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>book The War Against The Jews.
>
>Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>* April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>* ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>deportations."]
>
>			____________________________
>
>Or how about this?
>
>                                       Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>"Not every victim was a Jew but every Jew was a victim." --Elie Wiesel
>speaking of World War Two.
>
>"If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge and approval.
>
>Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>[ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>Aryan.''
>
>Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>whose father was a Jew.
>
>Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
>
>So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
>
>Sources:
>
>William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>		----------------------------------
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html
>
>Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Thursday, April 3, 1997 
>
>Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces 
>
>by Reuters 
>
>BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
>
>See also:
>
>http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>
>Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company 
>
>Dec. 26, 1996 
>
>An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>served in Nazi army 
>
>by William D. Montalbano
>Los Angeles Times 
>
>LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>of Holocaust history. 
>
>Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews. 
>
>"Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>whole story.]
>
> http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html 
>
>			----------------------------------
>
>>.>Did the Bolsheviks give exemptions?
>
>>You tell me.
>
>No, they did not!



From sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org Mon Oct  5 13:39:50 EDT 1998
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On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:23:00 -0400, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
 wrote:

>Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.

This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!


By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in
Canada??



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On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:23:00 -0400, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.
>Please reply in writing to:
On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:23:00 -0400, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
 wrote:

>Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.

This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!


By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in
Canada??



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On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:23:00 -0400, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
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>Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
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This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!


By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in
Canada??



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On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:23:00 -0400, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.
>Please reply in writing to:
On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:23:00 -0400, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
 wrote:

>Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.

This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!


By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in
Canada??



From sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org Mon Oct  5 13:44:55 EDT 1998
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It appears that the Jew retard Yehudah Yeraslasky, who may be related
to former Soviet KGB staff, just can not read, or write in English,
even though he was at one time a student at Simon Fraser University in
canada, according to prior articles exposing him...
That is why is no longer posting from the school, since they took care
of it...


On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:09:42 -0600, Igal_Peacemaker@yahoo.com wrote:

>omerta@casanostra.com  reported::

>: You are too polite. The liar Igal just wants to malign the good people
>: of Poland, which is typical of disinformation by the KGB!!!

>: What can one expect from Yehudah Yeraslavsky, a student at Simon
>: Fraser U, allegedly from former Soviet KGB Jews???

>: To tell the truth?? LOFL

>The truth is that it is not CASAnostra which mean "our building", but if you
>aping the mafia it should be COSAnostra "our business".


The retard is complaining about someone using the CASANOSTRA sig,
which stands for our house?? What a doofus!!!

>Understand, shmack?
sven88


On Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:14:35 -0700 (PDT), calif4U2@webtv.net (beachboy)
wrote:

>Expelled Jews from Spain in Middle Ages moved to Poland. Few hundreds
>years later Russia invaded Poland, and take over half of the Poland. All
>polish Jews from this part of Poland become automatic russian Jews until
>today. So, Igal your roots are in Poland and you Polish too!
>
>             beachboy~~~~~califusa
>I may be fat, but you`re ugly and  I can diet! (from car bumper-sticker)                                                                                                



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On Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:17:36 +0100, "T. Stadler"
 some maggot supporting jew criminals,
while living in the uk wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>gaygoyken@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>[blah blah blah...]
On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:

>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering

By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997

NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics
dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue
and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 

The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
togethera collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 

At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
Colombian drug lords. 

"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
announcing the charges. 

Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 

Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 

Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
court-authorized wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal
complaint charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered
$750,000 by taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank
accounts of a synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting
commissions, writing checks to drug traffickers. 

Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 

Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 

The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
Shel Shulem. 

The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
Family of Mexico Building." 

In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
named in the federal complaint. 

The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
officials said. 

With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 

Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
launder. 

The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 

There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
Shulem.

Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
the federal complaint said. 

Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 

Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
=================================================================
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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:27:33 GMT, polis-etica@NOSPAMmailcity.com
(polis-etica) wrote:

>One of the most popular and successful ways to launder money is
>through Jewish religious institutions, such as yeshivas and
>synagogues. One reason for the growing power of the Jews in the
>laundering drug money business is the Law of Return with its easy
>possibility of escape to Israel. The Jewish religious institutions
>badly need funds. The Colombians drug traders can be generous. They
>transfer their drug money "which go to the Jewish religious
>institutions one way and come out by the other way back to the donors.
>The synagogue or yeshiva obtain a respectable percentage for its pious
>uses. Everyone is happy: the drug barons who launder their money
>quickly and efficiently and the synagogue or yeshiva which makes easy
>money. In May 1993, five members of Jewish international laundering
>which had worked with the Kali cartel were arrested. The ring was
>exposed following an FBI 'sting' operation, in the framework of which
>it established a dummy corporation called Prism, which served the gang
>for laundering money. The head of the ring was an Israeli named Zion
>Ya'akov Evenheim, known as 'Zero' Evenheim who had a dual Israeli and
>Colombian citizenship, stayed in Kali, from where he coordinated the
>activity and supervised the transfers of money. Evenheim was arrested
>by Interpol in Switzerland and extradited to the U.S.. 

sven88



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On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:23:00 -0400, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
 wrote:

>Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.

This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!


By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in
Canada??



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On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:23:00 -0400, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.
>Please reply in writing to:
On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 02:23:00 -0400, "Guy P. Major, Attorney at Law"
 wrote:

>Established Canadian Law Firm seeks reputable business/professional
>partner for the processing of Canadian immigration applications.

This smells like another swindle by criminals trying to get more
criminals and other undesirables into Canada!!!

Legitimate, qualified individuals do not need to pay scammers to apply
to emigrate to canada.

Only those unsuited, and unqualified, need pay for the service, which
is available FREE at all Canada immigration offices!!!!


By the way, since when is the appellation "attorney at law" legal in
Canada??



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On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:31:20 GMT, perry_white@daily-planet.net (Perry
White) wrote:

>X-NO-ARCHIVE: YES
>In article ,
>jeff_brown@bigfoot.com says...
>>
>>In article <6nbkoj$60u@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you to a
>>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" sock
>>puppet, wrote:
>
>>>Gort McFee commented:
>>>>>>Gee, I don't see Ken defending homosexuality there, Doc-Scott.  He 
>>>>>>seems to be defending tolerance.  Is that what has your knickers in a 
>>>>>>knot?
>
>>>What does the word "homophobe" make reference to then? 
>
>>It makes reference to a person who fears homosexuals -- you, for instance.
>>
>>Where in the passage cited, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
>>reference to homosexual sex? And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly,
>>can he be defending it? We're _still_ waiting for the answers to those
>>questions...
>
>He does not have to mention homosexual sex in order to defend it. I
>never said that he mentioned homosexual sex. This is your ruse to
>divert attention that Gay McVay urges tolerance toward a "community"
>that engages in such practices. If you want tolerance for a group of
>people that practice such then you would also tolerate their acts
>would you not? If it weren't for their practices then the subject of
>tolerance wouldn't be an issue would it? What is so hard about this
>concept?
>It is about the same as people that say they are pro-choice; they
>avoid saying they are pro-abortion but they approve of the practice.
>You liberals are the ones that like to play tricks with meanings of
>words. I have no doubt in my mind that you, McVay and the rest of your
>ilk approve of the homosexual community and their activity! Care to
>deny this now?
>
>>> [...deletia...]
>
>Quit deleting the original text if you wish to make argument.
>Here is McVay unedited:
>
>http://x12.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365864512
>Subject:      Dear Nizkor....
>From:         kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
>Date:         1998/06/25
>Message-ID:   <6msk97$hgk$1@news.trends.ca>
> 
>[Notice that the Nizkooks in their apologia for homosexual acts seek
>to make homos into heroes! Notice also they totally deleted Goldberg's
>original questions as well. 
>Here is the link to Goldberg's post that all these homo-apologist seek
>to avoid: http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365721680
>7/1/98  Tavish]
> 
>In article <3593c583.138589250@news.abccom.bc.ca>,
>Electric Zen  wrote:
> 
>[deranged bonehead displays homophobia, Ken Lewis responds]
> 
>Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his arguments with
>facts,  resorts to teenaged sexual comments. Were all of you maroons
>cloned from the same defective brain cell?
> 
>That would certainly explain why they don't have more than a single
>functioning neuron between them, would it not?
> 
>This discussion reminds me - Saturday, June 28, is Pride Day. There
>will be a massive parade in Toronto and other cities. Folks who would
>like to stand up and be counted for tolerance should attend. Last
>year, about a million spectators lined the Toronto route. 
> 
>(The Phelps Clan should probably stay home - they don't know the
>meaning of tolerance.)
> 
>A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one half of Canada's
>arts community has died of AIDS. _Half_ - Dancers, actors, artists of
>all sorts. Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating impact upon
>our cultural life, and homophobic cheap shots don't remove this very
>sad reality.
> 
>"Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know a revisionist
>if he bit them in their nether regions.
>
>The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
>Ken McVay, Director.             http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
>
>	----------END----------
>
>>>>Where in the passage above, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay make any
>>>>reference to homosexual sex? (That _is_ the 'what they do' you're
>>>>referring to, isn't it?) And if he doesn't refer to it, how, exactly, can
>>>>he be defending it?
>
>I answered the stupid questions above the requoting of Ken McVay's
>obvious apologia for homosexuals and the acts that get them termed as
>homosexuals.
>
>>>How is AIDS spread and why did McVay use the word "homophobe?"
>
>>Notice that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie still hasn't explained where in the
>>referenced passage Ken McVay refers to homosexual sex, nor how Mr. McVay
>>can be 'defending' something he didn't mention.
>
>It has been explained repeatedly and the lurkers have gotten the
>point. It is you that seeks to do damage control and diversion. Won't
>work!
>
>>> [...deletia...]
>>
>>>Notice that half have died of AIDS and the word homophobic used?
>
>>Notice that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie still hasn't explained where in the
>>referenced passage Ken McVay refers to homosexual sex, nor how Mr. McVay
>>can be 'defending' something he didn't mention.
>
>Where was it ever claimed that Ken McVay mentioned homosexual sex? I
>made no such claim. It is you making the claim that I made the claim!
>I have maintained that he makes apologia for a "community" that
>obviously engages in such acts. They aren't called homosexuals for any
>other reason Georg and you look extremely agenda concious and stupid
>to keep up this current ruse!
>
>>> [...deletia...]
>>
>>>>>If Gay McVay
>>>>>believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he appreciate the right
>>>>>to free speech and stop showing intolerance toward others. 
>>>>>Ernst Zundel for instance.
>
>>>>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should 
>>>>not have the right of free speech?
>
>>>His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time. 
>
>>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated that Ernst Zundel should not
>>have the right of free speech?
>
>Any attention paid to McVay's activities and his allegiance to B'Nai
>B'rith will show how he aggresively seeks to silence the opposition
>using what he calls "hate speech" laws existent in Canada.
>
>Just use the following key words at DejaNews:
>ZUNDEL McVAY FREE SPEECH and you will see much!
>or do a search on GROSVENOR McVAY FREE SPEECH 
>and you will find such gems as:
> 
>
>http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315519835
>Subject:      Re: Free Speech
>From:         kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
>Date:         1998/01/13
>
>In article <34bab636.2890382@news.interlog.com>,
>Sheila Paterson  wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>Everyone has the right to free speech no matter how obnoxious,
>>offensive, fascist or boring.    What one doesn't have is the right to
>>keep someone from speaking.
>
>Although many here would argue the point, the statements above are not
>correct for Canada, which does not have the protection of the American
>First Amendment.
>
>In short, in accordance with recent Supreme Court of Canada findings,
>there are acceptable abridgments to Canadian Charter rights to free
>speech.
>
><>
>
>	-----END OF ARTICLE------
>
>http://x7.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=342508652
>
>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=340569637
>Subject:      Supreme Court upholds defamatory libel law
>From:         kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC)
>
>>>You just don't pay attention. They want Zundel in prison for mere words!
>
>>Note that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie is repeating his non-answer.
>>
>>When and where has Nizkor stated they 'want Zundel in prison', O Gutless >One?
>
>http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=157567242
>Subject:      Ernst Zundel, threat to Canada's national security?
>From:         kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
>
>>McVay on CBC:
>>"I did at that time approve  [of] Canadian actions against Zundel against
>>Keegstra, ah it was sort of a gut reaction because they offended me so
>>deeply I said good shut them up put them in jail do what ever it takes, 
>>...no free speech."
>
>	............................................................
>
>Care to deny the above now Georg? DejaNews is filled with such!
>I'll bet that you really approve of Socialist Canada's "free speech" 
>too.
>
>				Billy Bob
>
>>JGB



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On Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:52:01 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>Notice that the gas station employee,according to an interview a week
>ago in local papers, McVay refuses to answer the questions.
>
>Even his masters, the JEWS, must be getting annoyed by now, with all
>the tax fraud investigations in Canada and the USA.
>
>The Victoria synagogue where he used to hide, had to kick him out
>because of the heat from the authorities!!!
>
>
>
>On Wed, 11 Feb 1998 19:17:57 GMT, nationalist@juno.com (Michael )
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:44:38 -0500, Avenger wrote
>
>>>> The goyboy token getting paid by the swindlers at NAZIKOR/NIZKOR just
>>>> will not answer the critical questions.
>>
>>Nothing new here.
>> 
>>>> It seems he and his creatures may in fact have been swindling not only
>>>> the IRS in the USA, and Revenue canada Taxation, but also swindling
>>>> the people who made donations, thinking it was a legal charity, which
>>>> it is NOT!!!
>>
>>Definitely not a charity.
>> 
>>>> Subject: Re: Questions OyVey Won't Answer!!!!
>> 
>>
>>>> Where are the answers to all the questions, which Nazikor/NIZKOR refuses to
>>>> answer??
>> 
>>>> Is it really an international tax fraud?
>> 
>>>> What have the I.R.S. to say??
>> 
>>>> Over the past few months, there have been a set of questions, which
>>>> OyVey and his minions have refused to answer.
>> 
>>>> Perhaps the officials at the I.R.S. Financial Crimes Enforcement Branch,
>>>> who can be reached at:
>>>>         http://www.ustreas.gov/mail/fincen.html
>> 
>>>> will be interested in receiving complaints regarding NIZKOR and OyVey.
>> 
>> 
>>>> Also, Revenue Canada Taxation can be reached with similar complaints at:
>>>>         webmaster@rc.gc.ca
>
>
>>>> >The text relating to Questions OyVey Won't Answer is:
>> 
>>>> >Date: Thu. 23 Jan 1997  00:14:06 GMT
>>>> >From: Doctor detroit (Adjust@chiropractor.com)
>>>> >Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
>>>> >Subject: to repeat the questions
>> 
>>>> >       Since this appears to be a tradition in a.r let us continue it.
>> 
>>>> >       1)      What exactly is the political origin of the initials OBC?
>>
>>Order of the British Crown. In McGoy's case it is the Order of British Columbia.
>>
>> 
>>>> >       2)      What did Ken McVay do to receive the approval to use the
>>>> >               letters?
>>
>>Being a politically correct gopher for Bnai Brith and promoting the Holocaust(tm)
>>Terrorist Campaign. Further they maintain spy/smear files on people who question
>>certain myths about the Holocaust(tm) for possible prosecution of citizens who travel
>>to Europe. They undoubtably provide information to Mossad.
>>
>> 
>>>> >       3)      What is the tax number of Nizkor?
>> 
>>>> >       4)      What is the physical address of Nizkor?
>>
>>Probably written on McGoy's forehead. Hard to tell since he has his nose up Bnai
>>Brith's butt.
>> 
>>>> It seems that temple Emanuel in Victoria, Canada could no longer stand the stench
>>>> of the shabbas-goy Oyvay
>>
>>McGoy dropped them for greener pastures.
>> 
>>>> >       5)      What is the phone number of Nizkor?
>> 
>>>> >       6)      Where can one find the organisational papers for Nizkor?
>>
>>For the US they should be filed in the State of Texas under the San Antonio Area
>>Foundation. This is the front-end shell organization for Nizkookland in the US.
>> 
>>>> >       7)      What is the evidence offered that Nizkor is authorised to
>>>> >               solicit tax free contributions?
>> 
>>Unknown. Except they claim that if someone "contributes" more than $10 that Bnai
>>Brith will give them a receipt for tax purposes. They do not specify if this is US or
>>Canadian dollars. 
>>
>>>> >In view of the refusal by OyVey and Nizkor to answer the critical
>>>> >questions in #3, #4,#6, and especially #7, one must wonder.
>> 
>>>> >Is NIZKOR JUST A HUGE TAX FRAUD, with the proceeds lining the pockets of
>>>> >OyVey???
>>
>>It's a reasonable assumption.
>> 
>>>> >Try to get answers from the tax authorities, both in the USA and Canada.
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 00:41:49 GMT, in alt.revisionism dleonik@accesscomm.net
>>>> (Dan Leonik) wrote:
>> 
>>>> >Check this out!
>>
>>Read this. This was after Ken McGoy denied a connection with any other Jewish
>>organization. I know I posted it. Also if you want me to repost Ken's "Big Lie"
>>letter just ask.
>>
>> 
>>>> >Nizkor Funding
>>>> >URL: http://www.almanac.bc.ca/funding.html
>>>> >Summary: Please make your donations payable to League for Human Rights
>>>> >of B'nai Brith Canada ...with the cheque's memo including "Nizkor
>>>> >Project". ). In the United States, donations in support of the Project
>>>> >should be made payable to San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund
>>>> >and should be mailed to San Antonio Area Foundation.
>>>> >Excite Search---Search: "nizkor"
>> 
>>>> >"From B'nai Brith's 1996 'Audit of Anti-Semitic Incidents':
>> 
>>>>  The League is working closely
>>>> >with Ken McVay's Nizkor Project (http://www.nizkor.org) through the
>>>> >"Holocaust and Hope" program. The League and Nizkor have prepared a
>>>> >workbook entitled Hate and the Internet: Selected Readings to assist
>>>> >in workshops on assist in workshops on this topic.  The creation of a
>>>> >B'nai web site (http://www.bnaibrith.ca) facilitates the dissemination
>>>> >of information to counter hate and also provides a means of reporting
>>>> >incidents directly to the National Office."
>>
>>Interesting. This after the Liar McGoy had denied any connection.
>>
>> 
>>>> >There can be no doubt that the Nizkor WHORES are in the business to
>>>> >promote Jewish interests. 
>>
>>That is putting it "lightly".
>>
>>
>>>> >If any of them are White Americans then they
>>>> >are paid agents of a foreign government accepting money to undermine
>>>> >American values of honesty and truth in reporting the facts of WWII.
>>
>>Their MO is described in former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of
>>Deception". Read it. It should pretty much remove any doubts you might have of what
>>the Nizkooks are up to.
>>
>> 
>>>> >The Hoax of the Century, even if real, has nothing to do with America,
>>>> >nor should we feel obligated to compensate Jews with 'loan' grants or
>>>> >even give them one second of our time watching their stupid hoax
>>>> >dramatizations.
>> 
>>>> >Nizkor and Hollywood are both just two tentacles grasping and clawing
>>>> >their way into White America's good nature and generousity.
>>
>>>> >NO MORE!  The Jews should pay back the $77 billion dollars plus
>>>> >interest immediately, and the Nizkor abomination should be shut down
>>>> >and the nonJewish elements tried for high treason.
>> 
>>>> >You too can be apart of this great reckoning.
>
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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:33:07 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:

>This article is recovered from dejanews, and merits discussion again
>
>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:54:52 +1000, petermac@dynamite.com.au (Peter
>Mackay) wrote:
>>In article ,
>>s.souter@edfac.usyd.edu.au (Stephen Souter) wrote:
>>>} Something about a "list", wasn't it?
>>>Spindler's List
>
>You mean Swindler's List, or perhaps Libeler's List??
>
>>Peter Mackay, Campbell
>>Peter Lucas, Bulimba
>>petermac@dynamite.com.au
>>http://www.netinfo.com.au/~petermac
>
>For the benefit of those able to read, enjoy the following:
>
>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James)
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian 
>>wrote:
>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>
>>>> >> I have a question:
>
>>>> >[snip]
>>*******************************************************************************************
>>(PJ)
> 
>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of "Genocide" against
>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>
>
>>(BR)
>>>	Essentially, yes, I was.   I made and still do make the point 
>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same 
>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and 
>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>
>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!!
>
>article follows
>
>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org decided
>to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>>In article <353fd933.625226@news.datanet.ab.ca>, torquemada@inquisition.org
>>>writes:
>
>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>
>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>
>Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>weren't illegal.
>
>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>reports to prove this!!!
>
>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 
>
>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>other references  below, cited.
>
>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>>Sir,
>>>  You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>an open liar?
>>>                               irgun43
>
>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>>> >Yesss!
>
>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>
>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>
>>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>
>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>> deportations."]
>
>                         ____________________________
>
>>>> Or how about this?
>
>>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge and approval.
>
>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>> Aryan.''
>
>>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>
>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
> 
>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
> 
>>>> Sources:
> 
>>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
> 
>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>> by Reuters
>
>>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
> 
>>>> See also:
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>
>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>> served in Nazi army
>
>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>> Los Angeles Times
>
>>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>> of Holocaust history.
>
>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>
>>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>> whole story.]
>>>> 
>>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>
>>Quite.      Glad we can agree on something.
>>
>>>
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>****************************************************************************************
>>
>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>cheers,          PJ
>
>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!
sven88


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On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 19:40:49 GMT, sbjarnason, trying to stimulate more
discussion regarding how to dispose of faggots,  wrote:

Perhaps it wanted more discussion of the laws of khalwat??

>> Muslim nations seem to have more sense and respect for normal humans,
>> than do the degenerate JEW run countries.
>>
>> The only good faggot is a cremated one, whether dead or otherwise!!!
>>
>> Immolate yourself, and then try to talk, if you can comprehend.
>> sven88



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If the facts fit, why not republish for the benefit of others??

On 5 Oct 1998 19:14:57 GMT, ptrela@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Piotr Trela)
wrote:

>
>sbjarnason@heimat.zhid.org wrote:
>: It appears that the Jew retard Yehudah Yeraslasky, who may be related
>: to former Soviet KGB staff, just can not read, or write in English,
>: even though he was at one time a student at Simon Fraser University in
>: canada, according to prior articles exposing him...
>: That is why is no longer posting from the school, since they took care
>: of it...
>[...]
>
>
>Hmm, "sbjarnason", aren't we original? Let's look. June 23, 1998:
>
>------------------------------------------------
>> Subject:   Jew Liar Yehudah yeraslavsky???
>> Author:    oreilly
>> Email:     oreilly@erinhall.com 
>> Date:      1998/06/23                                               
>> Forums:    soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.israel,
>>            soc.culture.jewish
>>
>> oreilly@erinhall.com wrote:
>> : It appears that the Jew retard Yehudah Yeraslasky, who may be related
>> : to former Soviet KGB staff, just can not read, or write in English,
>> : even though he was at one time a student at Simon Fraser University in
>> : Canada, according to prior articles exposing him...
>> : That is why is no longer posting from the school, since they took care
>> : of it...
>-----------------------------------------------------
>
>
>So either you, "sbjarnason",  plagiated the letter of 
>"oreilly@erinhall.com" or you are the same person repeating himself again
>and again. I replied to "oreilly", but he (she?it?) didn't answer. Since
>"your" letter is identical to his from June 23, my reply from June 23 is
>still valid today:
>
>----------------------
>>> Mr/Mrs oreilly,
>>> if you insist on posting to this group please:
>>> - stop using offensive language ("retard");
>>> - show the proof of Igal's relation to the KGB staff- if you cannot,
>>>   please apologize at once;
>>> - stop bringing up Mr Igal's (supposed) ethnicity - it is Mr Igal who
>>>   is responsible for his own postings, not the "Jews";
>>> 
>>> As for your defence of Poles,  with "friends" like you and
>>> "omerta@casanostra.com", who would need enemies?!
>>> So, please, take your prejudice somewhere else, we (Poles and Jews)
>>> seem to do quite well on our own.
>> 
>> Piotr Trela
>------------------
>
>Would you care to answer this time?
>
>Piotr Trela



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On Mon, 05 Oct 1998 19:25:15 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:

It appears that the Jew retard Yehudah Yeraslasky, who may be related
to former Soviet KGB staff, just can not read, or write in English,
even though he was at one time a student at Simon Fraser University in
canada, according to prior articles exposing him...
That is why is no longer posting from the school, since they took care
of it...


On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:09:42 -0600, Igal_Peacemaker@yahoo.com wrote:

>omerta@casanostra.com  reported::

>: You are too polite. The liar Igal just wants to malign the good people
>: of Poland, which is typical of disinformation by the KGB!!!

>: What can one expect from Yehudah Yeraslavsky, a student at Simon
>: Fraser U, allegedly from former Soviet KGB Jews???

>: To tell the truth?? LOFL
sven88


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On Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:54:25 GMT, vincent@dreamon.com wrote:

>[From The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 1992 issue]
>
> "The Secret Files: How AIPAC Can Slander You By Stealth -- An
>Insider's Expose"
>
>-or-
>
>"The Secret Section in Israel's U.S. Lobby That Stifles American
>Debate"
>
> by Gregory D. Slabodkin
>
> 
>During the reign of terror that Senator Joseph McCarthy unleashed in
>the 1950s, when the reputations and lives of many loyal Americans were
>ruined by false charges of "communism" and "treason," American Jewry
>was overwhelmingly opposed to the Wisconsin senator and his blackmail
>by blacklists. According to the Gallup polls of the time, the
>percentage of U.S. Jews who opposed McCarthy's smear tactics was twice
>that of the rest of the population. Many Jewish organizations passed
>resolutions condemning McCarthy's ruthless character assassination.
>
>Today, however, such national Jewish organizations as the
>Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith (ADL) and the American Israel
>Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) are using the same tactics to stifle
>open debate of U.S. policy in the Middle East.
>
>
>Secretly Circulated Lists
>
>
> To Conduct this "neo-McCarthyism," AIPAC operates a covert section
>within its research department that monitors and keeps files on
>politicians, journalists, academics, Arab-American activists, Jewish
>liberals, and others it labels "anti-Israel."  AIPAC selects
>information from these files and secretly circulates lists of the
>"guilty," together with their alleged political misdeeds, buttressed
>by their statements, often totally out of context.
>
>Just as McCarthy's permanent investigations subcommittee labeled
>criticism of specific policies of the U.S. government as "anti-
>American" or "pro-Soviet," AIPAC labels criticism of Israeli
>government policies "anti-Israel," "pro-Arab" or "pro-PLO."  Still
>worse is the pro-Israel lobby's redefinition of "anti-Semitism" to
>include any such criticism of Israel or its actions.
>
> To date, revelations about AIPAC's blacklisting and smear tactics
>have barely scratched the surface of the pro-Israel lobby's secret
>activities. Former Congressman Paul Findley, in his 1985 best-selling
>book _They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront
>Israel's Lobby_, documented what he could see of that lobby's impact
>on U.S. politics, defense, foreign and economic policies, as well as
>academia and the media. However, as an insider who worked within
>AIPAC's stealth section, I can confirm what Findley could only
>surmise. That an organized blacklisting operation exists is a tragic
>fact that no longer should be ignored.
>
> AIPAC's "opposition research" department traces its roots to I.L.
>(Sy) Kenen, who founded AIPAC in 1954. As editor of AIPAC's weekly
>_Near East Report_, he often attacked critics of Israel in his aptly
>titled column, "The Monitor."  Besides monitoring, analyzing, and
>responding to "anti-Israel" comment and activities in the United
>States, Kenen also kept files on AIPAC's "enemies."  In his final year
>AIPAC began to expand its intelligence-gathering operations.
>
> Kenen's memoirs, _Israel's Defense Line: Her Friends and Foes in 
>Washington_, record how AIPAC pooled resources in 1974 with the
>American Jewish Committee and other national Jewish organizations to
>create a "truth squad."  Its purpose was to combat "pro-Arab
>propaganda" and the emerging "Arab lobby," which Kenen believed to be
>a growing threat to the U.S.-Israel relationship.
>
> "While vigorously defending Israel's perceived interests, the
>organizations that created the truth squad turned into a kind of
>Jewish thought police," journalist Robert I. Friedman explains.
>"Investigators -- sometimes overzealous Jewish college students,
>sometimes sources with access to U.S. intelligence agencies -- were
>used to ferret out critics of Israel, Jew or gentile, wherever they
>might be. At ADL and AIPAC, files were opened on journalists,
>politicians, scholars and community activists. Their speeches and
>writings were monitored, as were, in some cases, their other
>professional activities. And they were often smeared with charges of
>anti-Semitism or with the pernicious label of self-hating Jew. The
>intention was to stifle debate on the Middle East within the Jewish
>community, the media and academia, for fear that criticism of any kind
>would weaken the Jewish state."
>
> When Kenen stepped down as executive director of AIPAC in December
>1974, the task of monitoring Israel's "enemies" was left to the
>department of research and information at AIPAC, where it has remained
>ever since.
>
>
> Monitoring Israel's "Enemies"
>
>
>Morris Amitay, Kenen's successor as AIPAC executive director, did not 
>follow Kenen's practice of countering "pro-Arab propaganda" with
>polished editorials in the _Near East Report_.  Amitay was more
>concerned with developing AIPAC into a first-rate lobbying
>organization, as demonstrated by the fact that AIPAC grew dramatically
>during his six-year reign. These also were key years in the growth of
>intelligence gathering.
>
>Some of the growth resulted from the challenge presented by a small, 
>dovish, Jewish organization of the late 1970s known as Breira.
>"Breira," the Hebrew word for "alternative," was organized by a tiny
>group of American Jewish rabbis, professors and other activists from
>the civil rights and anti-war movement of the 1960s.
>
>Recognizing that the U.S. Jewish community was not monolithic on the
>subject of Israel, Breira encouraged American Jews to question
>Israel's policies in the occupied territories after the 1967 Six-Day
>War and to engage in an open and frank debate on U.S. foreign policy
>in the Middle East. Many Breira positions reflected those of the Peace
>Now movement in Israel.
>
>However, American Jewish organizations would not tolerate in the U.S. 
>the dissent that characterized political debate in Israel. Instead
>AIPAC and other Jewish organizations set out to silence Breira by
>discrediting its members. Although these Jewish peaceniks were
>motivated by love and concern for Israel, they were smeared as "anti-
>Israel," "pro-PLO," and "self-hating Jews."
>
>Kenen, still serving as acting editor of AIPAC's _Near East Report_, 
>charged that Breira "undermined U.S. support for Israel."  Only one
>prominent Jewish leader defended Breira. He was Rabbi Alexander
>Schindler, president of the Union of American Hebrew Congregations,
>who called the attack on Breira a "witch hunt."  He was ignored,
>however, and the swift and successful campaign to snuff out Breira set
>the "rules" for dissent in the American Jewish community, as well as
>who would be the "enforcer" of these "rules."
>
>As Edward Tivnan observed in his book, _The Lobby: Jewish Political 
>Power and American Foreign Policy_: "By attacking Breira, Jewish
>leaders had turned over much of their power to AIPAC, Israel's most
>loyal agent in the U.S. and a proved enemy of dissent from Israeli
>policies, among Jews as well as gentiles."
>
>In the late 1970s and early 1980s, AIPAC published an annual "Who's
>Who" of "anti-Israel organizations and personalities, providing
>important background information for AIPAC members who must deal with
>them in the political arena."  AIPAC photocopied these "enemies lists"
>to meet increasing requests by its members for materials on
>"anti-Israel" forces.
>
>
>AIPAC's "War for Washington"
>
>
>Thomas Dine, a former legislative assistant to Senator Ted Kennedy,
>who replaced Amitay in 1980 as AIPAC executive director, expanded
>AIPAC's opposition research. This was part of Dine's "War for
>Washington," inspired by what he portrayed as the dramatic growth of
>"anti-Israel" organizations in the nation's capital. AIPAC was
>particularly worried about the Arab-American community, just beginning
>to organize.
>
>In August 1982, AIPAC hired Amy Goott as its first full-time employee
>to monitor Israel's "enemies."  Goott was recruited from the
>Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith, where she had similar duties.
>In a speech at the 1983 AIPAC Policy Conference, Goott called on AIPAC
>members to send useful information to her in Washington.
>
>In June 1983, AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_, 
>coauthored by Goott. As Dine explained in the handbook's preface, its
>purpose was to update the activities of "anti-Israel" organizations
>and individuals, and to provide a "more complete and convenient
>analysis of this activity" to "meet the needs of AIPAC members."  Yet,
>despite its glossy cover and carefully worded and seemingly objective
>descriptions, _The Campaign to Discredit Israel_ was nothing more than
>a blacklist. By lumping them together, it sought to categorize critics
>of all kinds as "enemies" of Israel. The final chapter, "A Directory
>of the Actors," profiled 21 organizations and 38 individuals to be
>monitored and discredited whenever possible.
>
>At about the same time that AIPAC published _The Campaign to Discredit
>
>Israel_, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith published its own 
>document entitled _Pro-Arab Propaganda in America: Vehicles and
>Voices_. Overlaps in the texts and the timing reflect Ms. Goott's
>employment by both organizations during the period both publications
>were in preparation.
>
>"The primary accusation leveled against the groups and individuals 
>listed in the B'nai B'rith and AIPAC books is that they are
>'pro-Palestinian' or 'pro-PLO,'" Cheryl Rubenberg writes in her book,
>_Israel and the American National Interest_.  "Pro-Israeli groups have
>succeeded in associating the words 'Palestinian' and 'PLO' with
>terrorism in the minds of Americans; then with techniques reminiscent
>of the McCarthy era, they smear their opposition with the label
>'pro-PLO.'"
>
>The smear campaign did not go totally unchallenged within the U.S. 
>Jewish community. In December 1983, _New York Times_ columnist Anthony
>Lewis criticized AIPAC's tactics, particularly the inclusion in its
>"enemies list" of Walid Khalidi, a Palestinian intellectual living in
>Boston, as does Lewis.
>
>Khalidi supports a two-state solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict. In
>
>its handbook, however, AIPAC quoted selectively from one of his
>articles to depict him as an extremist calling for the destruction of
>Israel.
>
>"Joe McCarthy could not have produced a nastier distortion" of
>Khalidi's views, Lewis wrote. He suggested that Israel's lobby should
>welcome Palestinian moderation instead of trying to "smear" it.
> 
>In November 1984, the Middle East Studies Association (MESA), the 
>largest organization of Middle East educators in the United States,
>unanimously condemned AIPAC and ADL blacklisting. MESA called on both 
>national Jewish organizations to "disavow and refrain from such
>activities" as soliciting "unbalanced information on students, faculty
>and other parties at American campuses" and "listing factually
>inaccurate and unsubstantiated assertions that defame specific
>students, teachers and researchers as 'pro-Arab propagandists,' who
>'use their anti-Zionism as merely a guise for their deeply felt
>anti-Semitism.'"
>
>When it released the first edition of _The Campaign to Discredit
>Israel_ in 1983, AIPAC had announced plans to publish updated versions
>annually. 
>
>However, due to the negative publicity it engendered, the first
>edition was also the last. Instead, AIPAC continued its monitoring of
>"anti-Israel" activities, but disseminated the results secretly.
>
>
> Going Underground
> 
>
>AIPAC's decision to take its opposition research underground coincided
>
>with the hiring in the mid-1980s of Michael Lewis and Anna Gottlieb.
>Gottlieb joined AIPAC after a stint at the Justice Department's Office
>of Special Investigations (OSI). Lewis came to AIPAC from the
>Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank closely
>associated with the pro-Israel lobby.  
>
>He is the son of Princeton University "orientalist" Bernard Lewis,
>whose writings have been criticized in the Middle East for denigrating
>Islam as a religion and Arabs as a people.
>
>Michael Lewis, the present head of AIPAC's stealth section,
>innocuously named Policy Analysis, describes it as a "clearing-house"
>for information on anti-Israel organizations and activists to provide
>a "resource, and fulfill a need, unreplicated anywhere else."  He has
>provided negative information both to rival politicians and to
>journalists about prominent individuals whom 
>
>
>AIPAC considers to be "anti-Israel."
>
>
>In one case Lewis provided information that became the basis of a
>racist brochure mailed to voters in California's 44th congressional
>district by candidate Randy "Duke" Cunningham's campaign in the spring
>of 1990. The brochure accused former U.S. Ambassador to Qatar Joseph
>Ghougassian, Cunningham's Republican primary election opponent, of
>being "bank-rolled by Arab oil interests."  The brochure, featuring a
>photo of Ghougassian with a drawing of Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi,
>asked: "We don't need a congressman bought and paid for by these
>special interests.  Do we?"
>
>What made this brochure particularly offensive was the fact that 
>Cunningham's campaign listed contributors to Ghougassian with Arabic
>sounding last names, all of whom were in fact U.S. citizens, and
>included the National Association of Arab Americans (NAAA).
>Ghougassian, an Egyptian-born Armenian and naturalized U.S. citizen,
>lost the primary race against Cunningham who, with AIPAC's support,
>went on to win a seat in the 102nd Congress.
>
>Lewis reports that AIPAC also "provided Steve Emerson with information
>
>on Alexander Cockburn."  That followed a heated exchange between 
>Israel-apologist Emerson and frequent critic of Israel Cockburn on the
>
>editorial page of _The Wall Street Journal_ in May 1990. Emerson
>attacked Cockburn for his "financial agenda."
>
>"It ought to be remembered," Emerson wrote, "that several years ago
>Mr. Cockburn secretly took $10,000 from an organization that had been
>funded primarily by the governments of Iraq and Libya and by a bank
>known as the PLO's bank."
>
>Emerson's charge was based on a story which had appeared in a weekly 
>alternative newspaper, _The Boston Phoenix_, on Jan. 10, 1984.  _The
>Phoenix_ reported that Cockburn received in 1982 a $10,000 grant from
>the now defunct Institute of Arab Studies to write a book on the
>Israeli invasion of Lebanon and, because Cockburn did not inform them,
>editors of the _Village Voice_ "indefinitely suspended" him due to
>"appearance of conflict [of interest] and nondisclosure."
>
>Not surprisingly, AIPAC was the source of the original _Phoenix_ story
>
>as well as Emerson's attack based on it in _The Wall Street Journal_.
>Alan Lupo, _The Boston Phoenix_ reporter who broke the story back in
>1984, said AIPAC had told him the Institute for Arab Studies was
>"linked to a $100 million campaign to sway U.S. policy against
>Israel."  In fact, the Institute had U.S. tax-exempt status and listed
>individual contributors within the United States until it closed down
>in 1983 due to a lack of funds.
>
>Deploring the AIPAC-generated "misinformation," editor David 
>Schneiderman of the _Village Voice_ wrote on Jan. 24, 1984: "What
>Cockburn did not do was take money from an 'Arab propaganda group.'
>Moreover he was not 'bought'--he clearly received the grant because of
>views he already firmly held. The _Phoenix_ offered no evidence that
>the Institute [of Arab Studies] is anything more than what it purports
>to be. And despite the reporter's clumsy attempt to say so, Arab does
>not always equal Palestinian which does not always equal terrorist.
>His unquestioned adoption of claims by the Anti-Defamation League and
>the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, hardly disinterested
>parties, is poor journalism."
>
>Even _The Wall Street Journal_, a newspaper with a demonstrated 
>pro-Israel editorial bias, questioned the AIPAC-originated charges. In
>a Jan. 13, 1984 editorial, _WSJ_ editor Robert Bartley wrote: "Among
>all the things I can imagine Alex doing, this one seems fairly
>innocuous... On all this we have no opinion, except that even Arabs
>should enjoy freedom of speech."
>
> _The Wall Street Journal_ continued to run Cockburn's monthly column 
>opposite the editorial page. Said the _Journal_, tongue only partly in
>cheek, "We hired him because of his biases, which we're sure are
>totally incorruptible."
>
>In both of the cases cited, AIPAC attempted to discredit critics of 
>Israel not by refuting their arguments, but by trying to tie them to
>Arab money. Making an Arab connection can damage the victim's
>reputation, the pro-Israel lobby believes, so long as it can encourage
>a mindset in the United States that anything Arab-related is tainted.
>
>Ironically, it is precisely the same kind of racist stereotype to
>which the Jewish community is so sensitive, particularly the charge
>that Jews exert tremendous influence through the use of their money.
>Jewish organizations can and do talk about the power of "Arab money"
>and "petro-dollars," yet are quick to decry as anti-Semitic similar
>innuendo regarding Jewish financing.
>
>In another case, AIPAC executive director Dine asked Lewis to analyze 
>the positions of Brookings Institution Middle East specialist Judith
>Kipper. In an Aug. 17, 1990 memo, Lewis responded: "For the most part,
>Kipper is extremely skillful in her writings and statements to avoid
>being pinned down as 'anti-Israel.'  She often achieves her goals by
>presenting the views of 'moderate Israelis' to state her case."
>
>In _The New Republic_, and ardently pro-Israel magazine, writer David 
>Segal put a more positive spin on Kipper's views in its March 25, 1991
>issue: 
>
>"Her analysis throughout the Gulf crisis said little about the
>politics of the Middle East, but a great deal about the politics of
>Judith Kipper. It's not that she's anti-Israel -- her criticism would
>put her not far from the center of the Israeli Labor Party -- or that
>she is pro-Arab. Rather, her politics stem from an unwavering
>quasi-religious faith in the power of dialogue."
>
>There is no greater admission of guilt and wrongdoing than AIPAC's 
>strenuous attempts to conceal its blacklisting activities. Senior
>AIPAC officials fear that public outrage might follow disclosure of
>their covert activities. The name change from "Opposition Research" to
>"Policy Analysis" was designed to conceal AIPAC's surveillance,
>monitoring, and intelligence-gathering operations. In an Aug 7, 1990
>internal memorandum to Steve Rosen, AIPAC Foreign Policy Issues
>director, Lewis boasted: 
>
>"There is no question that we exert a policy impact, but working
>behind the scenes and taking care not to leave fingerprints, that
>impact is not always traceable to us."
>
>As part of its intelligence-gathering operation, Policy Analysis has 
>created a fictional person and a bogus company to infiltrate opposing 
>organizations by paying membership dues or making donations to them.
>This AIPAC creation is "Paul Hunt" of "Paul Hunt & Associates."  AIPAC
>rents a post office box on Capitol Hill for Mr. Hunt's mail, and has
>installed a separate Paul Hunt telephone line in the AIPAC office.
>"Paul Hunt" has even been listed as a donor to the _Washington Report
>on Middle East Affairs_. 
>
>Secret _Activities_
>
>Nowhere is secrecy more meticulously applied than to the production
>and distribution of _Activities_, the weekly AIPAC publication which
>disseminates information on individuals and organizations critical of
>Israel or Israeli policies. Although _Activities_ is the most visible
>product of its Policy Analysis section, AIPAC takes great pains to
>hide its connection with _Activities_, in order to avoid the
>controversy that arose over its blacklisting of "enemies" in its 1983
>publication of _The Campaign to 
>
>
>Discredit Israel_.
>
>
> _Activities_' select and tightly controlled recipients are encouraged
>to use the material as they see fit, "subject only to the provision
>that AIPAC not be attributed as its source."  _Activities_ is
>distributed to AIPAC's Washington and regional staff, its officers,
>the major Jewish organizational leaders, Jewish Federations and
>Community Relations Councils around the nation, pro-Israel activists
>and academics.
>
>It also goes to the Israeli Embassy in Washington and to other
>Israelis both in the U.S. and in Israel. AIPAC employees are not
>permitted to take _Activities_ out of the office and may not mention
>the existence of _Activities_ outside AIPAC's walls. A disquieting
>breach of security was revealed at the 1990 national convention of the
>American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) when that
>organization's president, Abdeen Jabara, referred casually to having
>received an AIPAC study entitled 
>
>
>_Activities_.
>
>
>Assessing the problem, Lewis wrote in an April 2, 1990 memorandum to 
>Dine: "_Activities_ is distributed to some 400+ people, so it will
>probably be impossible to trace the source of this leak. There is
>nothing in _Activities_ which points to who is its originator and it
>is sent out in plain envelopes, so the material obviously did not just
>accidentally get passed on to ADC. This is the first time that any of
>these groups have made any reference to their being in receipt of
>_Activities_."
>
>Information contained in _Activities_ has been used by the National 
>Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC), American Jewish 
>Congress (AJC), Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), Committee for
>Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA), National Jewish
>Coalition (NJC), and the Jewish Institute for National Security
>Affairs (JINSA).
>
>According to Lewis: "Because _Activities_ is read by many of the major
>
>Jewish and pro-Israel organizational players, _Activities_ ensures
>that there is a cognizance of the activities of the anti-Israel forces
>both in Washington and the grassroots and the issues on which they are
>focusing.
>
>Ultimately, of all the information disseminated from AIPAC,
>_Activities_ may well be the most eagerly sought, read and used to
>good advantage."
>
>One of the ways that this information was "used to good advantage" was
>
>in a 1990 American Jewish Congress fund-raising letter. It accused
>Executive Director James Zogby of the Arab American Institute of "the
>new anti-Semitism" (criticism of Israeli policies) and compared him
>with white supremacist David Duke and black nationalist Rev. Louis
>Farrakhan because Zogby criticized pro-Israel political action
>committees. No sources were given in the letter for quotations
>attributed to Zogby.
>
>When Zogby protested, AJC Executive Director Henry Siegman, whose name
>
>appeared at the bottom of the letter, denied prior knowledge of the
>mailing and blamed overzealous fund-raisers for its wording.
>_Washington Post_ columnist Richard Cohen wrote in an Oct. 3, 1990,
>column, "There's no doubt in my mind that the American Jewish
>Congress' letter writers went off half-cocked -- and without Siegman's
>knowledge. "It might surprise Cohen to know that Siegman, not AJC's
>fund-raisers, is one of the select recipients of AIPAC's _Activities_,
>from which every one of the quotes attributed to Zogby had been taken.
>
>Nor, after publication of Cohen's article, was it some unnamed "letter
>
>writer" but Siegman, personally, who contacted AIPAC's Michael Lewis
>for help in trying to build a case that Zogby was indeed an
>"anti-Semite."  Lewis faxed an AIPAC "living memo" of Zogby's
>statements, actions and affiliations to Siegman in New York.
>
>"I hope this information is of help," Lewis wrote on the cover sheet. 
>
>"The compilation as such should not be sent to Richard Cohen, and the 
>information should not be attributed to AIPAC."
>
>Writing in the _Village Voice_ on Jan. 22, 1991, Nat Hentoff argued
>that the AJC letter had "resurrected the spirit of Joe McCarthy."
>Hentoff also quoted Zogby's reaction to his own personal ordeal with
>neo-McCarthyism: 
>
>"When the ADL and AIPAC falsely and maliciously labeled me a
>'terrorist member of the PLO' speaking engagements were canceled,
>political candidates refused to associate with me, and my family and I
>were harassed and threatened with violence. Now, I know that ADL and
>AIPAC were not involved in the harassment or the violence -- but
>vilification and scurrilous attacks of the sort they indulged in can
>create the atmosphere in which ugly actions can occur."
>
>Siegman never apologized to Zogby for the actions of his "overzealous 
>fund-raisers."
>
>
> Disingenuous Disclaiming
>
>
>AIPAC is careful never to advocate specific actions to be taken
>against individuals and organizations named in _Activities_. In fact,
>it puts on the front cover of every edition the disingenuous
>disclaimer that "the inclusion of material in _Activities_ implies
>neither endorsement nor criticism of any group."  By distributing
>derogatory allegations about critics of Israel, however, AIPAC in
>effect tells pro-Israel activists, "Here are the people who are your
>enemies -- now go out and do something about it!"
>
>AIPAC's Policy Analysis section works closely with its college liaison
>department, the Political Leadership Development Program (PLDP). When
>AIPAC is informed of an upcoming speech by an "anti-Israel"
>personality, summaries of that person's standard arguments,
>question-and-answer style, and a list of possibly damaging quotations
>are sent to pro-Israel activists at the host institution, who also are
>asked to send tapes or accounts of the speech back to AIPAC. AIPAC
>also draws up questions for "plants" in the audience, and suggests
>other strategies suited to the particular venue.
>
>Typical of this kind of preparation was a confidential memo sent in
>1985 to AIPAC opposition researcher Anna Gottlieb by AIPAC regional
>director Murray Wood in Los Angeles. For an October 20th "Conference
>on Peace With Justice in the Middle East" at Mira Costa College,
>arrangements were made to "monitor the conference...have a corps of
>'our' people in the audience, well-trained and briefed...call a
>meeting with the local ADL and American Jewish Committee directors to
>develop a coordinated strategy...(and provide) background material" on
>the speakers.
>
>Human rights activist Noam Chomsky, a linguistics professor at 
>Massachusetts Institute of Technology, described the ADL file compiled
>on him: "It's just like an FBI file -- 150 pages of material, clips
>from newspapers and inter-office memos saying I was going to show up
>at this or that place, surveillance of talks I have given,
>characterization of what was said in the talks [often falsified]. All
>this material goes into a central source. Then when I give a talk
>somewhere, my file will be given to the appropriate local group, who
>will be able to dig through it, and come up with statements that I
>allegedly made at some time during the last 15 years to be publicized
>in unsigned pamphlets."
>
>Under lock and key in the office of Michael Lewis are literally
>hundreds and hundreds of such files on people and organizations that
>AIPAC deems to be "anti-Israel."  Among politicians upon whom such
>files exist are former Bush administration White House Chief of Staff
>John Sununu, former Reagan administration secretaries of defense
>Caspar Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former President Jimmy Carter
>and former Democratic presidential candidate George McGovern, Senate
>Minority Leader Robert Dole, Republican Senate John Chafee, House
>Majority Whip David Bonior, and Democratic Representatives John
>Conyers, John Dingell, Mervyn Dymally, Mary Rose Oakar, Nick Joe
>Rahall, James Traficant and many others.
>
> The largest file that AIPAC keeps on any single person is that of 
>District of Columbia "Shadow Senator" Jesse Jackson. While AIPAC's 
>surveillance and monitoring is mostly confined to an individual's 
>professional statements and activities, in Jackson's case, AIPAC was
>caught venturing into personal innuendo. As revealed by CBS' "60
>Minutes," an internal AIPAC memorandum dated Nov. 3, 1987 proposed
>generating media interest in allegations that Jackson had extramarital
>affairs.
>
>AIPAC also maintains files on what it characterizes as "anti-Israel" 
>journalists to stifle open media discussion on the Middle East. AIPAC 
>maintains files on Peter Jennings, Mike Wallace, Patrick Buchanan,
>Rowland Evans and Robert Novak, Thomas Friedman, Anthony Lewis,
>Richard Cohen, Carl Rowan, Alexander Cockburn and Joseph Sobran, among
>others.
>
>Reminiscent of Senator Joe McCarthy's scouring of Hollywood for 
>"communists," and their "fellow travelers" in the entertainment
>industry, AIPAC also has opened files on Ed Asner, Woody Allen,
>Richard Dreyfus, Vanessa Redgrave, Casey Kasem, Mike Farrell, Barbra
>Streisand, Michael Moore, Peter Yarrow, and many more.
>
> 
>"Have You No Shame?"
>
>
> In the spring of 1954, a nationwide audience watching the televised
>Army-McCarthy hearings sat transfixed as Boston attorney Joseph Welch
>stood to demand of Senator McCarthy, "Sir, have you no shame?"  Only
>after that dramatic confrontation, pictured over and over as
>intimidated journalists and politicians finally dared to speak out,
>did the shadow of "McCarthyism" slowly recede from American public
>life.
> 
>Today, some Jewish organizations finally are asking that same question
>of the Israel lobby. Two years ago, several local Jewish community
>relations organizations issued a statement condemning an attack by the
>hard-line Americans For A Safe Israel (AFSI) against the New Israel
>Fund (NIF).
> 
>This local initiative inspired a resolution adopted nationally by the
>National Jewish Community Relations Advisory Council (NJCRAC)
>condemning the "McCarthy-like" tactics used by some Jewish
>organizations. The resolution proposed guidelines for dealing with
>"the right of dissent" on Israeli policies, and emphasized the
>importance of open and thoughtful exchange in an atmosphere of "mutual
>tolerance and civility."  However, while NJCRAC denounced such fringe
>groups as AFSI, it failed to address the problem of neo-McCarthyism
>within more mainstream Jewish organizations.
>
>AIPAC and ADL must be held accountable by the organized American
>Jewish community for their blacklisting and smear tactics and for the
>climate of hatred and repression they have created. Let American
>Jewish organizations demand that AIPAC stop circulation of its
>blacklists and destroy the files it keeps on the "enemies of Israel."
>
>Only if Americans refuse to be silenced by false charges of hatred and
>racism can there be free and open debate on U.S. policy in the Middle
>East.  
>
>And only through such debate will the U.S. be able to contribute
>toward a lasting solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict.
>
>[Gregory D. Slabodkin, a free-lance writer in Washington, DC, was an
>opposition researcher for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee
>(AIPAC) in 1990 and 1991.]
>
>Call the American Educational Trust TOLL-FREE at 1-800-368-5788 or
>write: American Educational Trust P.O. Box 53062 Washington, DC 20009
>
> NOTE: They may still be giving out free sample copies of _The
>Washington Report on Middle East Affairs_.  Ask for one!   * END
>
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On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>
Orest Slepokura  wrote:
...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
 Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...

Here  is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

                              
The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy'
about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated'
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

                              The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation - and even keep order in the collection camps -
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand
>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You
>>can
>>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>deportation
>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>of 
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than
>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist
>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>>                                The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel
>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied
>>carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence
>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they
>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others
>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of
>>Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders
>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading
>>such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering
>>the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen
>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>these few
>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in
>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their
>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who
>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these
>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>to
>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination
>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>Budapest
>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>as a
>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on
>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>fatal
>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish
>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry
>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task
>>easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis
>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue
>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these
>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends
>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six
>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him
>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great
>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would
>>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the
>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to
>>the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order
>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between
>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>into
>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>promised
>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>Jews
>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner
>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and
>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and
>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from
>>the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put
>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only
>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to
>>evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall
>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>to
>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>June 22,
>>1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new
>>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of
>>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner
>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's
>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the
>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were
>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when
>>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the
>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to
>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove
>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony
>>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute
>>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth -
>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up
>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>the
>>affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to
>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>good
>>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>>intention of good Becher'.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his
>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World
>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate
>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>personal
>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions
>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>faith
>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's
>>affidavit
>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his
>>statements." 
>>
>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel
>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered
>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>as
>>court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to
>>much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>> 
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now
>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead
>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government
>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>What
>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on
>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of
>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was
>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National
>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>in
>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was
>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But
>>the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the 
>>name 
>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
>>rehabilitated'.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court -
>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>rehabilitated'.
>>
>>                        
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these
>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found
>>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>Greenwald of
>>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>>
>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the
>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove
>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner.
>>They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj,
>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of
>>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>vivid
>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>any
>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>Budapest,
>>protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews
>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither
>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the
>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>properly
>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when
>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from
>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even
>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say
>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews
>>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to
>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the
>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not
>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its
>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his
>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody
>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of
>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>with
>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District
>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his
>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a
>>moral and public point of view...
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who
>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one
>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton,
>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of
>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary
>>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian
>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many
>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>knowledge of
>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the
>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a
>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here
>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others....
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an
>>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of
>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few -
>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating
>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>though, in
>>fact, he brought about its result.'
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such
>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation
>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive
>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the
>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of
>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>etc. -
>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty
>>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue
>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he
>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as
>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a
>>claim of such good faith...
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die
>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come
>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual
>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He
>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete
>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation
>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was
>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner
>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this
>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the
>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the
>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and
>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting
>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>revolts,
>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>of
>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which
>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the
>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>>evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of
>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing
>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>base
>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is
>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>                         
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their
>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been
>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration
>>with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with
>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave
>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain
>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an
>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West
>>Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the
>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure
>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>what
>>might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue
>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial .
>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the 
>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>>Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was
>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in
>>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>1957
>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings
>>were
>>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was
>>delivered.
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the
>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).


sven88


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It appears that the Jew retard Yehudah Yeraslasky, who may be related
to former Soviet KGB staff, just can not read, or write in English,
even though he was at one time a student at Simon Fraser University in
canada, according to prior articles exposing him...
That is why is no longer posting from the school, since they took care
of it...


On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:09:42 -0600, Igal_Peacemaker@yahoo.com wrote:
>omerta@casanostra.com  reported::

>: You are too polite. The liar Igal just wants to malign the good people
>: of Poland, which is typical of disinformation by the KGB!!!

>: What can one expect from Yehudah Yeraslavsky, a student at Simon
>: Fraser U, allegedly from former Soviet KGB Jews???

>: To tell the truth?? LOFL



On 3 Oct 1998 05:47:13 GMT, "Mansour Bighamian"
 wrote:

>    This zionist bastard, igar yergohfsky, has a fanaticism about creating
>rows among Muslims.
>
>    He is too stupid to realize that first amd foremost, we are set to
>destroy israel and cleanse the earth of these corrupt race; this time for
>GOOD!
>
>    Be alert of such trashy postings by this son of a bitch.
>
>--------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>igal_peacemaker@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
><6v3ku0$mbr$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>>References:<19981001232226.20258.00004200@ng155.aol.com>
>>
>>OSwashere (oswashere@aol.com) wrote:
>>
>>: Basil, : I am oswashere.  First, I am not a christian nationalist; in
>fact
>>I am a : muslim. : What is the reason for your infatuation with Iran. : As
>>for Iran, I even took a course tought by the former Iranian ambassador of :
>>the UN, Muhammad Mahalati.  I have had extensive conversations with him
>about
>>: Iran.  I have been to Iran to conduct a study for my thesis. I tell you,
>>they : are only concerned about themselves and their own
>self-glorification.
>>Arabs : can learn such a trait that is tragically missing among the Arab
>>people, again : in particular the Palestinians and the Lebanese. : Arabs
>must
>>wake up to the fact that Iranians are a different breed with a : vision
>that
>>is threatening to the Arab people.  It is a fact that the Arabs in : the
>Gulf
>>are always under threat from Iranian incitement of instability.  It $ : a
>>fact that Iran wants and has attempted to take Bahrain.  I suggest that you
>:
>>go to a university library and look for books and other lietrature about :
>>Iranian foreign policy in the Arab world.  A lot of that work is has
>>actually: : been witten by Iraninans such as Ramazani. : Syria's alliance
>>with Iran is for the sake of convenience.  Not shaing borders : with Iran,
>>Syria wants to antagonize Iraq.  In fact Syria only allows Iran to :
>>propagate its fundamentalism in lebanon.  Iran wants to legitimize its rule
>:
>>attempting to foist its vision of society and government on others.  Iran
>can
>>: claim to its people that even foreigners want to emulate Iran.  Basil,
>can
>>you : honestly relate with Iran.  Why not just be an Arab concerned only
>>about :Arabs?
>>
>>no comments.
>>
>>I=P
>>
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It is only irony, that the murderere-lovers do not accept, that the
only good criminal, is an executed one!!!!


On Sat, 03 Oct 1998 21:30:15 GMT, frisette@total.net (Frisettes)
wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:36:28 GMT, sbjarnason@gehenna.zhid.org wrote:
>
>I sincerely hope this is meant as irony.
>
>>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:10:31 GMT, kenoyvaySOB@zhid.org wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages of televising
>>>executions.
>>> 
>>>A few more thoughts on the subject.
>>> 
>>>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>>>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the VICTIMS of
>>>the criminals executed.
>>> 
>>>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to not only
>>>determine the method of execution, but should also have the right and
>>>privilege of executing the criminals themselves.
>>> 
>>>Some of the types of criminals meriting execution, but not limited to
>>>such, would include:
>>>         
>>>         rapists
>>>         drug dealers
>>>         AIDS spreaders
>>>         home invaders
>>>         armed robbers
>>>         pederasts and similar child molesters
>>>         crooked liars/lawyers
>>>         corrupt judges
>>>         corrupt politicians
>>>         insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
>>>         members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
>>>         useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
>>>              criminals being released
>>>
>>>Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:
>>>
>>>         crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
>>>         vivisection
>>>         medical experiments without anaesthetic
>>>         target practice for police and military
>>>         beheading
>>>         hanging
>>>         barbecueing by electrocution
>>>         drawing & quartering
>>> 
>>>Suggestions are invited, on all the above points.
>>>
>>>Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
>>>
>>>	guillotining, very popular in France
>>>	flaying alive until dead
>>>	stoning to death - popular in some jurisdictions
>>>
>>>
>>>Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
>>>
>>>	any spreader of any disease,including STD - this would obviously
>>>             include most faggots
>>>	white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000 dollars
>>>             (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,how they would 
>>>              exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)
>>>
>>>More suggestions for both categories are invited.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I know many of you feel that despicable Desi should be mentioned, so I
>>>have.
>>>
>>>Which method for it would be most suitable??
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>--We will only start to be free of will when we realize that we are not.--



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On Sat, 21 Mar 1998 23:56:18 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:42:56 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>Complaints about Desi are to be sent to:
>
>>Arnaud Lagardere, CEO, who is based in Danbury,CT,USA. He wants calls
>>sent directly to him at: 203-797-3500.
>
>The CEO is also willing to accept E-mail complaints about Desi.
>They should be sent directly to Mr. Lagardere at:
>alagardere@grolier.com
>
>
>>He is already aware of the theft of telecommunications by Desi, from
>>the Paris office.
>
>>The Regional manager of Grolier Interactive in Paris, is FABRICE
>>SERJEAN, who can be reached at 011-33-1-55-45-47-20. he has
>>instructions from head Office to forward complaints about Desi, and to
>>consider criminal charges under the Code Civile of France!!!!
>
>>One can also send E-mail complaints to M. serjean at;	mgc@grolier.fr
>
>>If enough complaints get filed, then Desi will get fired again, for
>>theft.
>
>
>>On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:19:15 -0500, "Rev. Don Kool" 
>>wrote:
>>>Friends,
>
>>>	Although it's off topic, when Desi's involved, what isn't?  
>
>>>	Desi just informed me during our morning ICQ chat (in between
>>>asking for UNIX help) that he has been able to win his job back at
>>>Grolier Interactive.  Seems it took a lot of getting down on bended
>>>knee as it were, but he was able to get reinstated albeit at a lower
>>>rate of pay and with less responsibility (seems he doesn't get to
>>>run out for coffee any more).
>
>>>	While Desi is merely another juvenile troll with nothing
>>>substantive to contribute to this newsgroup, I still applaud his
>>>'doing what it takes' to get his job back.  Anyone that is willing
>>>to go to those lengths to retain such a mediocre job is all right in
>>>my book.
>
>>>	When I return home from work this evening, I will be sending kudos
>>>to as wide a cross section of Grolier management as possible and
>>>congratulating them on the quality of mercy that they have shown
>>>young Coughlan.  I will be sure to include a few of the postings he
>>>has made from work along with records of the lengthy transatlantic
>>>telephone calls he has made and the FAXs he has sent me so that they
>>>can fully appreciate just how merciful they have been.
>
>>Obviously, Don and his friends believe that even Desi  deserves to be
>>criminally prosecuted under the Code Civile of France, for stealing
>>telecommunications.
>
>
>>These will constitute prima faciae evidence of theft of
>>telecommunications. Desi will then be charged with CRIMINAL charges
>>under the French Code Civile, and will then enjoy his stay in a French
>>prison. French prisons are not as comforting as those in the US, but
>>perhaps Desi  will enjoy them more, being what it is.
>
>
>>It sems that desi just can not stop being a thief, just as he was in
>>Scotland, until Scottish Power fired him.
>
>>>	Good luck, Desi and welcome back to the world of the employed!
>
>>>			Hope this helps,
>>>			      Don



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On Tue, 06 Oct 1998 19:40:43 GMT, sbjarnason trying to stimulate
discussion about the perfidious Jews  wrote:

On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:33:07 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:

>This article is recovered from dejanews, and merits discussion again
>
>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:54:52 +1000, petermac@dynamite.com.au (Peter
>Mackay) wrote:
>>In article ,
>>s.souter@edfac.usyd.edu.au (Stephen Souter) wrote:
>>>} Something about a "list", wasn't it?
>>>Spindler's List
>
>You mean Swindler's List, or perhaps Libeler's List??
>
>>Peter Mackay, Campbell
>>Peter Lucas, Bulimba
>>petermac@dynamite.com.au
>>http://www.netinfo.com.au/~petermac
>
>For the benefit of those able to read, enjoy the following:
>
>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James)
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian 
>>wrote:
>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>
>>>> >> I have a question:
>
>>>> >[snip]
>>*******************************************************************************************
>>(PJ)
> 
>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of "Genocide" against
>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>
>
>>(BR)
>>>	Essentially, yes, I was.   I made and still do make the point 
>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same 
>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and 
>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>
>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!!
>
>article follows
>
>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org decided
>to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>>In article <353fd933.625226@news.datanet.ab.ca>, torquemada@inquisition.org
>>>writes:
>
>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>
>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>
>Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>weren't illegal.
>
>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>reports to prove this!!!
>
>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 
>
>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>other references  below, cited.
>
>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>>Sir,
>>>  You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>an open liar?
>>>                               irgun43
>
>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>>> >Yesss!
>
>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>
>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>
>>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>
>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>> deportations."]
>
>                         ____________________________
>
>>>> Or how about this?
>
>>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge and approval.
>
>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>> Aryan.''
>
>>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>
>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
> 
>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
> 
>>>> Sources:
> 
>>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
> 
>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>> by Reuters
>
>>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
> 
>>>> See also:
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>
>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>> served in Nazi army
>
>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>> Los Angeles Times
>
>>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>> of Holocaust history.
>
>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>
>>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>> whole story.]
>>>> 
>>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>
>>Quite.      Glad we can agree on something.
>>
>>>
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>****************************************************************************************
>>
>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>cheers,          PJ
>
>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!
sven88


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On Tue, 06 Oct 1998 19:40:43 GMT, sbjarnason trying to stimulate
discussion about the perfidious Jews  wrote:

On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:33:07 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:

>This article is recovered from dejanews, and merits discussion again
>
>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:54:52 +1000, petermac@dynamite.com.au (Peter
>Mackay) wrote:
>>In article ,
>>s.souter@edfac.usyd.edu.au (Stephen Souter) wrote:
>>>} Something about a "list", wasn't it?
>>>Spindler's List
>
>You mean Swindler's List, or perhaps Libeler's List??
>
>>Peter Mackay, Campbell
>>Peter Lucas, Bulimba
>>petermac@dynamite.com.au
>>http://www.netinfo.com.au/~petermac
>
>For the benefit of those able to read, enjoy the following:
>
>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James)
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian 
>>wrote:
>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>
>>>> >> I have a question:
>
>>>> >[snip]
>>*******************************************************************************************
>>(PJ)
> 
>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of "Genocide" against
>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>
>
>>(BR)
>>>	Essentially, yes, I was.   I made and still do make the point 
>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same 
>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and 
>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>
>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!!
>
>article follows
>
>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org decided
>to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>>In article <353fd933.625226@news.datanet.ab.ca>, torquemada@inquisition.org
>>>writes:
>
>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>
>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>
>Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>weren't illegal.
>
>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>reports to prove this!!!
>
>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 
>
>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>other references  below, cited.
>
>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>>Sir,
>>>  You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>an open liar?
>>>                               irgun43
>
>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>>> >Yesss!
>
>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>
>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>
>>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>
>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>> deportations."]
>
>                         ____________________________
>
>>>> Or how about this?
>
>>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge and approval.
>
>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>> Aryan.''
>
>>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>
>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
> 
>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
> 
>>>> Sources:
> 
>>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
> 
>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>> by Reuters
>
>>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
> 
>>>> See also:
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>
>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>> served in Nazi army
>
>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>> Los Angeles Times
>
>>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>> of Holocaust history.
>
>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>
>>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>> whole story.]
>>>> 
>>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>
>>Quite.      Glad we can agree on something.
>>
>>>
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>****************************************************************************************
>>
>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>cheers,          PJ
>
>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!
sven88


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On Tue, 06 Oct 1998 19:40:43 GMT, sbjarnason trying to stimulate
discussion about the perfidious Jews  wrote:

On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:33:07 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:

>This article is recovered from dejanews, and merits discussion again
>
>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:54:52 +1000, petermac@dynamite.com.au (Peter
>Mackay) wrote:
>>In article ,
>>s.souter@edfac.usyd.edu.au (Stephen Souter) wrote:
>>>} Something about a "list", wasn't it?
>>>Spindler's List
>
>You mean Swindler's List, or perhaps Libeler's List??
>
>>Peter Mackay, Campbell
>>Peter Lucas, Bulimba
>>petermac@dynamite.com.au
>>http://www.netinfo.com.au/~petermac
>
>For the benefit of those able to read, enjoy the following:
>
>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James)
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian 
>>wrote:
>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>
>>>> >> I have a question:
>
>>>> >[snip]
>>*******************************************************************************************
>>(PJ)
> 
>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of "Genocide" against
>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>
>
>>(BR)
>>>	Essentially, yes, I was.   I made and still do make the point 
>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same 
>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and 
>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>
>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!!
>
>article follows
>
>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org decided
>to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>>In article <353fd933.625226@news.datanet.ab.ca>, torquemada@inquisition.org
>>>writes:
>
>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>
>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>
>Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>weren't illegal.
>
>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>reports to prove this!!!
>
>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 
>
>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>other references  below, cited.
>
>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>>Sir,
>>>  You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>an open liar?
>>>                               irgun43
>
>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>>> >Yesss!
>
>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>
>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>
>>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>
>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>> deportations."]
>
>                         ____________________________
>
>>>> Or how about this?
>
>>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge and approval.
>
>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>> Aryan.''
>
>>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>
>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
> 
>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
> 
>>>> Sources:
> 
>>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
> 
>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>> by Reuters
>
>>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
> 
>>>> See also:
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>
>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>> served in Nazi army
>
>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>> Los Angeles Times
>
>>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>> of Holocaust history.
>
>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>
>>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>> whole story.]
>>>> 
>>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>
>>Quite.      Glad we can agree on something.
>>
>>>
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>****************************************************************************************
>>
>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>cheers,          PJ
>
>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!
sven88


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On Tue, 06 Oct 1998 19:40:43 GMT, sbjarnason trying to stimulate
discussion about the perfidious Jews  wrote:

On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:33:07 GMT, solomon@moloch.com wrote:

>This article is recovered from dejanews, and merits discussion again
>
>On Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:54:52 +1000, petermac@dynamite.com.au (Peter
>Mackay) wrote:
>>In article ,
>>s.souter@edfac.usyd.edu.au (Stephen Souter) wrote:
>>>} Something about a "list", wasn't it?
>>>Spindler's List
>
>You mean Swindler's List, or perhaps Libeler's List??
>
>>Peter Mackay, Campbell
>>Peter Lucas, Bulimba
>>petermac@dynamite.com.au
>>http://www.netinfo.com.au/~petermac
>
>For the benefit of those able to read, enjoy the following:
>
>On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:03:14 GMT, peterjames@usa.net (Peter James)
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:34:22 +1000, Brian 
>>wrote:
>>>On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 1998 09:36:20 +1000, Brian 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> >On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Peter James wrote:
>
>>>> >> I have a question:
>
>>>> >[snip]
>>*******************************************************************************************
>>(PJ)
> 
>>>> And were you indicting the Israelis on a charge of "Genocide" against
>>>> the Palestinian Nation?
>
>
>>(BR)
>>>	Essentially, yes, I was.   I made and still do make the point 
>>>that all too often the Israelis have engaged in making use of the same 
>>>tactics against the Palestinians as the Nazis did against the Jews and 
>>>other occupied peoples of Europe.
>
>Come to think of it, last year there was amajor news story, detailing
>the active involvement of JEWs with Hitler's military!!!
>
>article follows
>
>On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 14:03:42 GMT, torquemada@inquisition.org decided
>to say, in soc.culture.malaysia, using 202 valuable lines of text:
>
>>On Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:27:32 -0600, bushbadee@juno.com wrote:
>>>In article <353fd933.625226@news.datanet.ab.ca>, torquemada@inquisition.org
>>>writes:
>
>>>>n the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>>And you ass hole worship a Jew, so what does that make you.
>
>>Actually Christ was murdered by the JEWs, because he exposed their
>>criminal activities, even the money-changing in the temples!!!
>
>Christ was legally executed  by the Romans at the instigation of some
>Jews, if the NT is to be believed. Christ himself was a Jew. The
>activities of the money changers, while perhaps in bad taste, clearly
>weren't illegal.
>
>>As for the JEWs active in the Nazi military, there are many documented
>>reports to prove this!!!
>
>but quite by chance you forgot to post a reference. 
>
>If you know how to read, then READ the report by Professor Rigg, and
>other references  below, cited.
>
>>The TRUTH about the many hundreds of thousands of JEWS who were active
>>in the Nazi military is well documented, both from records of the
>>Germans, together with documents from the JEWS themselves!!!
>
>>After all, the JEWS worship mammon, so why not make money??
>
>>On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 07:37:49 -0700, irgun43@mail.earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>>Sir,
>>>  You shame yourself and your Japanese nation by spreading such lies.
>>>  If you're saying that a few Jews tried to escape being killed by
>>>pretending to be Germans in the Nazi army, that could be possible. What
>>>you are saying is that Jews in great numbers willingly fought with those
>>>who were killing them. That is a lie and you know it. Do you enjoy being
>>>an open liar?
>>>                               irgun43
>
>>>> On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 01:38:19 +0700, "Hasan"  wrote: 
>>>> >Yesss!
>
>>>> >They killed Jesus and now killing many Palestinian BOYS (once again BOYS)
>>>> >and reporters who try to record their barbarity, and like Nazi’s who feel
>>>> >superior by saying “DEUTSCHE UBER ALLES”, the Jews claim themselves as
>>>> >“CHOSEN PEOPLE.”
>
>>>> >So, the Jews are nothing but a bunch of racists or fascists.
>
>>>> From doc_tavish@nonspam.bigfoot.com Sun Jan 25 17:14:46 1998
>>>> Based on previous post from DejaNews archives:
>
>>>> http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315100303&CONTEXT=885769316.1533018197&hitnum=0
>
>>>> On 11 Jan 1998 04:22:13 GMT, billbrtn@aol.com (BillBrtn) wrote:
>
>>>> >> Adolf Hitler had some Jews in his inner circle
>
>>>> http://www.viamall.com/ihf/653.html
>
>>>> This is the extraordinary story of Henry (Heinz) von Javorsky, a man
>>>> who has survived and thrived in many lands and under many regimes
>>>> because of his skill with a camera. In Nazi Germany he was able to
>>>> make a living--and live--despite having a Jewish grandmother, because
>>>> he was a specialist in aerial photography--
>
>>>> >>: Jews that had Iron Crosses and/or had proven their
>>>> >>loyalty to Germany were not harassed by the Gestapo, the SS or the SA.
>
>>>> You need to read about the Hindenburg exemption in Lucy Dawidowicz's
>>>> book The War Against The Jews.
>
>>>> Lucy S. Dawidowicz's book titled THE WAR AGAINST THE JEWS1933-1945 by
>>>> Bantam Books Incorporated [#13084-6, 1979 ed].
>
>>>> * April 7, 1933 Hitler's letter to Hindenburg gave exemptions to
>>>> the "Jewish Problem." "Officials who were already employed as civil
>>>> servants on or before August 1, 1914, or who during the World War,
>>>> fought at the front for Germany or her allies, or whose fathers or
>>>> sons were killed in action in the World War." (pg 77)
>>>> * ["Starting May 4, 1942, the Jews from Germany, Luxembourg, Vienna,
>>>> and Prague would be deported, except for the employed among them
>>>> and the holders of the Iron Cross or other World War I decorations.
>>>> Hitherto, those Jews as a group had been exempt from the
>>>> deportations."]
>
>                         ____________________________
>
>>>> Or how about this?
>
>>>>                                        Hitler's Jewish Army
>
>>>> "If there were Jews in (Hitler's) armed forces...who served knowing
>>>> what was going on and made no attempt to save (lives), well then that
>>>> is unacceptable and dishonorable." --Rabbi Marvin Hier, director of
>>>> the Simon Wiesenthal Institute.
>
>>>> Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called 'full Jews' served in the German military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge and approval.
>
>>>> Cambridge University researcher Bryan Rigg has traced the Jewish
>>>> ancestry of more than 1,200 of Hitler's soldiers, including two field
>>>> marshals and fifteen generals (two full generals, eight lieutenant
>>>> generals, five major generals), "men commanding up to 100,000 troops."
>
>>>> [ http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html ]
>
>>>> In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were
>>>> awarded Germany's highest military honor, the Knight's Cross.
>
>>>> One of these Jewish veterans is today an 82 year old resident of
>>>> northern Germany, an observant Jew who served as a captain and
>>>> practiced his religion within the Wehrmacht throughout the war.
>
>>>> One of the Jewish field marshals was Erhard Milch, deputy to Luftwaffe
>>>> Chief Hermann Goering. Rumors of Milch's Jewish identity circulated
>>>> widely in Germany in the 1930s.
>
>>>> In one of the famous anecdotes of the time, Goering falsified Milch's
>>>> birth record and when met with protests about having a Jew in the Nazi
>>>> high command, Goering replied, ``I decide who is a Jew and who is an
>>>> Aryan.''
>
>>>> Rigg's research also shed light on stories surrounding the rescue by
>>>> German soldiers of the Lubavitcher grand rabbi of that time, who was
>>>> in Warsaw when the war broke out in 1939.
>
>>>> Joseph Isaac Schneerson was spirited to safety after an appeal to
>>>> Germany from the United States. Schneerson was assisted by a German
>>>> officer Rigg has identified as the highly decorated Maj. Ernst Bloch,
>>>> whose father was a Jew.
>
>>>> Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto
>>>> police (Ordnungdienst) and concentration camp guards (kapos).
> 
>>>> So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all
>>>> Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against
>>>> Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?
> 
>>>> Sources:
> 
>>>> William D. Montalbano, "The Jews in Hitler's Military," Los Angeles
>>>> Times, Dec. 24, 1996.
>
>>>> Tom Tugend, "Grad student uncovers Jews who fought for Adolf Hitler,"
>>>> Jewish Telegraph Agency, Dec. 26, 1996.
>
>>>> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators.
>>>> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/zad/zad13.html
>
>>>> Article " Hitler's Jewish Army" from:
>>>> http://www.hoffman-info.com/jewishnazi.html
>
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html97/altnazi_040397.html 
>>>> Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Thursday, April 3, 1997
> 
>>>> Hitler let `Aryanized' Jews serve in Nazi armed forces
>>>> by Reuters
>
>>>> BONN - Adolf Hitler personally allowed at least 77 army officers of
>>>> Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause in
>>>> the German Wehrmacht during World War II, an American historian said
>>>> yesterday...... [Click the above link to see all of the story.]
> 
>>>> See also:
>>>> http://www.seattletimes.com/extra/browse/html/holo_122696.html
>>>> Copyright © 1996 The Seattle Times Company
>
>>>> Dec. 26, 1996
>
>>>> An eerie part of Holocaust history: Researcher talks to Jews who
>>>> served in Nazi army
>
>>>> by William D. Montalbano
>>>> Los Angeles Times
>
>>>> LONDON - Sustained by scholarship, peanut butter and a sense of
>>>> mission, Bryan Rigg is exploring an eerie and uncharted no man's land
>>>> of Holocaust history.
>
>>>> Rigg interviews former German soldiers of Jewish heritage, some of
>>>> them high-ranking officers, who fought for Nazi Germany in World War
>>>> II - during the Holocaust, when Germans killed 6 million Jews.
>
>>>> "Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis
>>>> called `full Jews' served in the military with Adolf Hitler's
>>>> knowledge. The Nazis allowed these men to serve but at the same time
>>>> exterminated their families," Rigg said. [Click link above to read the
>>>> whole story.]
>>>> 
>>>>  http://infoukes.com/lists/history/1997/08/0004.html
>
>>Quite.      Glad we can agree on something.
>>
>>>
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>****************************************************************************************
>>
>>Mr Leibler:    you have chosen to gratuitously & viciously persecute
>>a defenceless minority of Australians  -    who are innocent of any
>>wrong-doing  -  on purely political grounds;  by publishing to the
>>world, their names & residential suburbs in your magazine.
>>
>>In the interests of "balance", would you now care to publish to the
>>world,  the names & residential suburbs of those Australian residents
>>& citizens who are bankrolling the "Genocide" of the Palestinian
>>Nation;  with a higher financial contribution per capita, than any
>>other members of your diaspora, on the Planet.
>>
>>You say you have a deep & abiding concern for "political
>>transparency":    lets see you really put your publishing skills
>>where your mouth is...
>>
>>cheers,          PJ
>
>Better yet, publish a list of all those businesses owned or/and
>controlled by Jews, in Australia, USA, GB, Germany, France and Russia.
>
>Let the world see who is really controlling world affairs, even before
>the year 2000!!!
sven88


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On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:56:46 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
trying to stimulate more interest in this topic,

On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 18:45:47 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On Fri, 03 Jul 1998 15:00:35 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:
>
>>On 3 Jul 1998 06:38:05 GMT,  wrote:
>>
Orest Slepokura  wrote:
...fully documented *Perfidy* blatantly exposes the degree to which
 Zionists cooperated in the persecution of their fellow Jews...

Here  is more evidence of NAZI-ZIONIST JEW COLLABORATION.

The Kastner Case

                              
The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
involving a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.

Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have,
are generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy'
about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for
money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated'
by the Supreme Court of Israel.

                              The Accusations

Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily
Herald, he wrote:

I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.

This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of
silence.

Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all
Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the
number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the
exterminations.

I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I
was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that
Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'

Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
bargaining end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars.
With this little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben
Hecht, Perfidy, pp261-2)

These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning
operation, I wanted to set an example for future campaigns
elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's directive I now concentrated on
negotiations with the Jewish political officials in Budapest...Among
them Dr. Rudolph Kastner, authorized representative of the Zionist
Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the Jews from
resisting deportation - and even keep order in the collection camps -
if I could close my eyes and let a few hundred or a few thousand young
Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.

It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was
not too high for me.

We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver
case and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish
and reserve he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...

>>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>>thousand
>>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You
>>can
>>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the
>>deportation
>>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>>
>>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase
>>of 
>>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>>
>>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>>
>>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>>than
>>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>>Zionist
>>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>>
>>                                The Verdict
>>
>>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the
>>panel
>>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>>The
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>>studied
>>carefully.
>>
>>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>>confidence
>>in the false information that they were being transferred to
>>Kenyermeze.
>>
>>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>>they
>>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>>
>>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>>others
>>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the
>>Jews.
>>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>>of
>>Jewish leaders.
>>
>>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>>leaders
>>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>>spreading
>>such false information and did not protest.
>>
>>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>>
>>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>>hampering
>>the deportation orders.
>>
>>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>>dozen
>>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower
>>these few
>>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>>
>>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>>Jews in
>>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>>
>>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>>their
>>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>>who
>>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>>deportations...these
>>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride
>>to
>>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>>
>>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>>extermination
>>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in
>>Budapest
>>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this
>>as a
>>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>>dependent on
>>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its
>>fatal
>>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>>Jewish
>>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>>catastrophe.
>>
>>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>>Jewry
>>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>>
>>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>>task
>>easier.
>>
>>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>>
>>chiefs.
>>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>>underground.
>>
>>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>>Nazis
>>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish
>>Rescue
>>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>>
>>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>>these
>>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>>extermination plan of the killers ?
>>
>>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>>friends
>>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>>annihilation.
>>
>>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>>six
>>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>>to him
>>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>>great
>>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>>would
>>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>>the
>>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>>
>>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>>soul to
>>the German Satan.
>>
>>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in
>>order
>>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement
>>between
>>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation
>>into
>>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis
>>promised
>>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian
>>Jews
>>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>>Kastner
>>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>>and
>>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>>and
>>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>>from
>>the book of the living.
>>
>>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>>put
>>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>>only
>>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>>
>>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>>to
>>evade this truth.
>>
>>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>>wall
>>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly
>>to
>>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem,
>>June 22,
>>1955).
>>
>>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>>'new
>>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>>
>>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>>
>>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>>Jews.
>>
>>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>>of
>>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>>criminals.
>>
>>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>>Kastner
>>also needed an alibi for himself.
>>
>>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna.
>>Kastner's
>>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>>
>>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>>the
>>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>>
>>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>>were
>>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>>
>>Judge Halevi continues:
>>
>>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>>when
>>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed
>>the
>>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>>
>>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>>defense to
>>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>>remove
>>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>>
>>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>>criminal.
>>
>>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>>testimony
>>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>>minute
>>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>>truth -
>>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>>
>>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>>stood up
>>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in
>>the
>>affidavit.
>>
>>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>>but to
>>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no
>>good
>>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>>intention of good Becher'.
>>
>>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in
>>his
>>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>>World
>>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>>exaggerate
>>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his
>>personal
>>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>>contradictions
>>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good
>>faith
>>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's
>>affidavit
>>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a
>>war
>>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>>
>>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>>his
>>statements." 
>>
>>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>>libel
>>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>>ordered
>>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds
>>as
>>court costs.
>>
>>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>>pointed to
>>much more than that.
>>
>>But the story does not end there.
>> 
>>The Reaction
>>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>>
>>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>>know now
>>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>>
>>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>>Government of Israel.
>>
>>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>>
>>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>>
>>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>>instead
>>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>>libel.
>>
>>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>>government
>>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>>What
>>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>>appeal on
>>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>>
>>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>>of
>>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>>was
>>defending Kastner so strongly:
>>
>>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish
>>National
>>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here
>>in
>>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>>(Hecht, p. 268)
>>
>>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>>was
>>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>>leadership.
>>
>>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>>But
>>the story gets worse.
>>
>>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>>
>>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in
>>the 
>>name 
>>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully
>>rehabilitated'.
>>
>>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower
>>court -
>>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>>rehabilitated'.
>>
>>                        
>>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>>these
>>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>>found
>>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted
>>Greenwald of
>>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>>
>>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>>the
>>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>>prove
>>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>>
>>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate
>>Kastner.
>>They joined him.
>>
>>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>>Chesin:
>>
>>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>>Kluj,
>>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>>end of
>>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>>vivid
>>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without
>>any
>>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in
>>Budapest,
>>protocol 465).
>>
>>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>>Jews
>>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>>neither
>>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>>the
>>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can
>>properly
>>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>>
>>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>>when
>>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>>from
>>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>>Even
>>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>>say
>>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>>Jews
>>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>>plan to
>>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>>
>>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>>the
>>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>>is not
>>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>>its
>>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>>his
>>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>>disclose
>>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>>everybody
>>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>>blood of
>>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>>with
>>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>>District
>>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>>his
>>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>>at.
>>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the
>>extermination
>>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>>from a
>>moral and public point of view...
>>
>>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>>who
>>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>>one
>>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>>Marton,
>>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>>hour of
>>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>>warn
>>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>>
>>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District
>>Court
>>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>>Hungary
>>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>>
>>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>>Hungarian
>>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>>many
>>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>>knowledge of
>>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>>train for Palestine.
>>
>>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is
>>
>>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe
>>Silberg:
>>
>>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>>the
>>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>>a
>>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>>here
>>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>>guilt of others....
>>
>>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>>an
>>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>>of
>>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>>few -
>>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>>collaborating
>>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even
>>though, in
>>fact, he brought about its result.'
>>
>>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>>such
>>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>>cooperation
>>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>>decisive
>>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>>the
>>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>>able
>>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>>concealment of
>>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery,
>>etc. -
>>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>>certainty
>>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>>rescue
>>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>>he
>>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>>of the
>>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>>as
>>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>>a
>>claim of such good faith...
>>
>>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>>die
>>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>>come
>>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>>individual
>>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>>patients. He
>>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>>
>>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>>complete
>>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>>operation
>>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>>
>>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>>was
>>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>>Kastner
>>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>>this
>>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>>to the
>>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>>the
>>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>>and
>>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>>the
>>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>>resisting
>>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>>activity.
>>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>>
>>We can sum up with three facts:
>>
>>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small
>>revolts,
>>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>>of
>>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>>which
>>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>>
>>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>>the
>>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>>murder.
>>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>>evidence for this.
>>
>>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>>of
>>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>>
>>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>>rescuing
>>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>>base
>>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>>is
>>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>>retroactive
>>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>>
>>                         
>>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>>their
>>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>>been
>>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>>collaboration
>>with the Nazis.
>>
>>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>>
>>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>>
>>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>>with
>>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>>
>>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>>gave
>>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>>remain
>>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>>an
>>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>>
>>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>>West
>>Germany.
>>
>>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>>the
>>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>>pressure
>>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of
>>what
>>might come out.
>>
>>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>>Rescue
>>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>>trial .
>>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure
>>the 
>>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>>Palestine.
>>
>>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>>was
>>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>>in
>>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March
>>1957
>>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings
>>were
>>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was
>>delivered.
>>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent
>>of the
>>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).


sven88


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On 1 Oct 1998 20:07:20 GMT, (Kenneth McVay SOB) wrote:

Further to the lawsuits against Canada Post, for stealing or losing a
full sack of mail, CanPost filed a Statement of defence.

They claim, even if their managers STEAL  or lose a full sack of mail,
THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN COMPENSATION!!!
They claim further, that they are immune from any and all lawsuits!!!

No wonder so many people are having their mail, including registered,
STOLEN by managers at Canada Post!!!



On Sat, 08 Aug 1998 14:03:13 GMT, morgan@shamrock.com wrote:

>Following all the recent news stories about thefts of mail by Canada
>Post, today (7 August 1998) Canada Post is being sued, in two separate lawsuits!!!
>
>The most damaging one relates to the disappearance of AN ENTIRE SACK
>OF MAIL consisting of approximately 52 pounds of computer programs,
>worth more than $4,000.-- in a   PO sealed sack, destined for a
>foreign government department. The sackful was delivered and sealed on
>10th June. According to written admissions from Canada Post, it
>somehow "DISAPPEARED" the same day.Alberta Court Docket #P9890306082.
>
>Mind you, the criminals running Canada Post did not bother to advise
>the victim for one month, until 9th July!! It is now 2 months, Canada
>Post say they have no idea how the full mail sack disappeared, and
>they refuse to pay compensation for their thieves!!!
>
>Since normal workers/staff can no longer steal because they are
>constantly videotaped, one must assume that managers in canada Post
>are somehow involved in the disappearance.
>
>At the same time, another lawsuit was filed against Canada Post, in
>connection with a "security registered" item, with $3000.-- worth of
>stamps sent to a representative of a European government, which
>"disappeared"  last year!!!Alberta Court Docket# p9890306081.
>
>Victims are now getting together to organise a major international
>campaign.
>
>If you have had mail "disappear", whether 'lost' or stolen - SUE
>THEM!!!
>
>Some of the contact names and phone numbers of the big sh*ts 
>at Canada Post include:
>
>Alfonso Galiano,MP - Minister for Canada Post - 819-997-5421
>	Jonathan Moser is his gofer - same number
>
>Georges Clermont - President of Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>	Sebastian Barnard is his gofer - same number
>
>Stewart Bacon - VP Canada Post - phone 613-734-8440
>
>Also be sure to send copies of your charges to the Deputy Leader of
>the Opposition in the Canadian Parliament, Deborah Grey, MP.
>
>In addition to the foregoing, notify all media in your area to run
>this story, together with your complaints.
>
>Further, foreign postal administrations  including USPS are also being
>contacted. Perhaps they can be convinced, to again place an EMBARGO on
>mail to and from canada, until such time as Canada Post can ensure the
>safety, and reliability of delivery of mail, without it
>disappearing!!!
>
>The original article documenting the problems experience by Carl kane,
>as documented  with APS, are but the tips of the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
>It seems that dealers in Canada, and also now in UK, are filing their
>complaints about thefts from Canada mails, with the MP D.Grey in
>Ottawa, and also with media all over the world.
>
>
>
>>Read all the articles below!!!
>
>>It is not only in Toronto that Registered Mail is being regularly
>>stolen.
>
>
>>On Mon, 30 Mar 1998 04:19:49 GMT, fournier@no.spam.com wrote:
>
>>>Western Canada, especially Edmonton, is being reported in the media as
>>>the latest crisis area for thefts, particularly of Registered Mail.
>
>>>Apparently, senior staff in the main post office have been helping
>>>themselves to mail of value, even including Registered mail.
>
>>>So far, only one person has been charged, and convicted in Court.
>
>>>Even the media have had to admit, that the thefts are still
>>>continuing, so it is obvious that the senior thieves have still not
>>>been arrested.
>
>>>Governments overseas have been forced to intervene in connection with
>>>the ongoing thefts from and to Edmonton, Canada.
>
>>>Coming on the heels of the stupid mail strike just before Christmas,
>>>it seems Canada Post just does not give a damn about delivering the
>>>mail.
>
>>>That only a few of the staff, probably management types, are the
>>>culprits makes it difficult for those who are really honest workers in
>>>Canada Post. It seems further, that management of Canada Post just
>>>want to hush up, and cover up, the ongoing thefts.
>
>
>>If you also are a victim of theft from the mails through western
>>Canada, you should be contacting the following:
>
>>Also, be sure to send copies of your complaint to the following;
>>Ms.D.Gray - Deputy Leader of the Reform Party of Canada
>>HOUSE OF COMMONS,
>>OTTAWA - CANADA
>
>>She is handling many complaints of thefts from the mail, even of
>>Registered items!!!!
>
>>No postage is needed if mailed in Canada
>
>>Send your complaints of theft from the mails in Canada, in addition to
>>D.Grey,MP, to your local media - radio,tv and newspapers.
>
>
>>On 11 Jun 1998 18:34:27 GMT, jtc@crosslink.net (Jay T. Carrigan)
>>wrote:
>
>>>Rainer,
>
>>>Sorry to hear about your had problems with registered mail.
>
>Here's a very relevant "letter to the editor" published in the June 
>1998 issue of the American Philatelist:
>
>"Canadian Mail Warning
>
>"Philatelists should be aware of a string of registered mail losses of
>letters and packages destined for or originating from Toronto, Canada,
>in the last two years.  Despite the fact that twenty-three  Canadian
>Postal Corp (CPC) employees were arrested for mail theft in 1997, the
>losses continue, indicating that the arrests may have touched only the
>tip of the iceberg.
>
>"The arrests occurred in June 1997 at the Toronto's Gateway Postal 
>Terminal, the largest mail sorting facility in Canada.  Unfortunately,
>
>to date there are no reports that any of those arrested have been 
>charged or prosecuted, material reported missing by thousands of 
>customers remains missing, and CPC users continue to suffer sometimes 
>substantial losses.
>
>"Also unfortunately, there have been no stories in the American press
>about these increasingly frequent losses.  Collectors must be warned
>of the high risk of using the Canadian mail service.  Registered mail 
>is no protection against loss, and in fact may flag the mail to the 
>attention of the mail handlers who prey on the public.  If you must 
>send material to Canada, or if you need to receive items from the
>country, you will be more successful if you use Federal Express and
>pay the higher cost.
>
>                                                        Carl E. Kane
>                                          East Dennis, Massachusetts"
>
>>>     Jay Carrigan          jtc@crosslink.net
>
>>>In article <6l895l$r19$1@gulfa.kuwait.net>, Rainer Fuchs
>>> writes
>>>>How does the Canadian Post handles registered letters?
>>>>Does the receiver need to sign a receive note?
>
>>>>It seems that some of my registered letters to Canada have not reached the
>>>>receiver. For the first letter a inquiry was made... and the addressee just
>>>>needed to sign on a paper form from the Canadian Post that he has not
>>>>received the letter. Does the Canadian Post is not able to track the
>>>>letters?
>
>>>>Rainer Fuchs
>>>>Email:    r.fuchs@euromail.com
>>>>Web Site: http://fuchs-online.com
>
>
>
>>If the thefts are in Canada, there is little point complaining to
>>USPS.
>>Complain to APS, and then the Canadian MP who is interested, as well
>>as other media.
sven88


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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:12 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>
>>Translated from Polish:
>
>>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.
>
>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>
>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>Poland).
>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>big. 
>
>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>again came back to Poland. 
>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>He should.....
>
>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>



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On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:31:48 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
 wrote:

>============
>Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres. 
>Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>presently in Lithuania.
>
>But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei. 
>They were ususally not armed, and when armed never given more than five
>bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>(as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>the genocide.
>
>On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>closed.
>
>While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>intelligentia clamored for the police work.  
>
>Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>
>-------------
>Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>
>------------
>
>
>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>> 
>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), cz mogli moze
>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>> mundurow?
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/
>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>> 
>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), czy mogli moze
>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>> mundurow?
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/



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On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:49:56 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>
>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>
>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics
>dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue
>and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 
>
>The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>togethera collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
>representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 
>
>At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>Colombian drug lords. 
>
>"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
>Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>announcing the charges. 
>
>Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 
>
>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 
>
>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>court-authorized wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal
>complaint charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered
>$750,000 by taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank
>accounts of a synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting
>commissions, writing checks to drug traffickers. 
>
>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>
>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 
>
>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>Shel Shulem. 
>
>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
>Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
>Family of Mexico Building." 
>
>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>named in the federal complaint. 
>
>The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>officials said. 
>
>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
>conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 
>
>Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
>have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>launder. 
>
>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>
>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>Shulem.
>
>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
>out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
>the federal complaint said. 
>
>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 
>
>Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
>drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>=================================================================
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>
>
>
>
>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:27:33 GMT, polis-etica@NOSPAMmailcity.com
>(polis-etica) wrote:
>
>>One of the most popular and successful ways to launder money is
>>through Jewish religious institutions, such as yeshivas and
>>synagogues. One reason for the growing power of the Jews in the
>>laundering drug money business is the Law of Return with its easy
>>possibility of escape to Israel. The Jewish religious institutions
>>badly need funds. The Colombians drug traders can be generous. They
>>transfer their drug money "which go to the Jewish religious
>>institutions one way and come out by the other way back to the donors.
>>The synagogue or yeshiva obtain a respectable percentage for its pious
>>uses. Everyone is happy: the drug barons who launder their money
>>quickly and efficiently and the synagogue or yeshiva which makes easy
>>money. In May 1993, five members of Jewish international laundering
>>which had worked with the Kali cartel were arrested. The ring was
>>exposed following an FBI 'sting' operation, in the framework of which
>>it established a dummy corporation called Prism, which served the gang
>>for laundering money. The head of the ring was an Israeli named Zion
>>Ya'akov Evenheim, known as 'Zero' Evenheim who had a dual Israeli and
>>Colombian citizenship, stayed in Kali, from where he coordinated the
>>activity and supervised the transfers of money. Evenheim was arrested
>>by Interpol in Switzerland and extradited to the U.S.. 



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On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>
>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>
>
>>Clancy wrote:
>
>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>
>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>
>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>
>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>
>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>> the murderer).
>
>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>> sentiment.
>
>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
> 
>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>
>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
> 
>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>
>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>
>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
> 
>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>> Police.
>
>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>> peasants in Spain.
> 
>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>
>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>
>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
> 
>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>> Meadow).
>
>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>> Julius Rosenwald.
> 
>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>
>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
> 
>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
> 
>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>> member of the Central Committee.
>
>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
> 
>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
> 
>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
> 
>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
> 
>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
> 
>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
> 
>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
> 
>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>> LEON KASMAN,
> 
>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
> 
>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
> 
>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>> raised.
> 
>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
> 
>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
> 
>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
> 
>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
> 
>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>> 1992).
> 
>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
> 
>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
> 
>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
> 
>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
> 
>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
> 
>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russia or any other
>>>      country but are internationalists, and they are trying to start a
>>>      world-wide social revolution."
> 
>>> From the DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE, THE BRITISH WAR
>>> CABINET, (CAB 214/83,July 3, 1916) Came the report:
> 
>>>      "Definite evidence has been received that the leaders in the
>>>      Bolshevik movement in England, France, and America are in touch
>>>      with one another and with Moscow, and that the Bolshevik movement
>>>      is an INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY OF JEWS."
> 
>>> One could add, a financial-banking conspiracy with most of the money for
>>> the Russian Revolution coming from New York Jewish Bankers.
> 
>>> THE AMERICAN HEBREW, September 10, 1920:
> 
>>>      "The Bolshevist Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish
>>>      brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal
>>>      is to create a New Order in the world. [a New World Order - sound
>>>      familiar??] What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia,
>>>      thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
>>>      and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish
>>>      mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world."
> 
>>> DR. OSCAR LEVY in his Preface to THE WORLD SIGNIFICANCE
>>> OF THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION by George Pitt-Rivers (1920):
> 
>>>      "Bolshevism is a religion and a faith. How could those
>>>      half-converted believers dream to vanquish the "Truthful" and the
>>>      faithful of their own creed ... who had gathered around the Red
>>>      Standard of the prophet Karl Marx, and who fought under the
>>>      guidance of those experienced officers of all latter - day
>>>      revolutions - the Jews?"
> 
>>> GEORGE MARLEN, in STALIN, TROTSKY, OR LENIN, on page
>>> 414 New York (1937):
> 
>>>      "If the tide of history does not turn toward Communist
>>>      Internationalism, then the Jewish race is doomed"
> 
>>> THE LONDON JEWISH CHRONICLE, 4-4-1921:
> 
>>>      "...there is much in the fact of Bolshevism itself, in the fact
>>>      that so many Jews are Bolshevists, in the fact that the ideals of
>>>      Bolshevism at many points are consonant with the finest ideals of
>>>      Judaism."
> 
>>> CHICAGO JEWISH SENTINEL, 10-8-1942:
>
>>>      "The Second World War is being fought for the defense of the
>>>      fundamentals of Judaism."
>
>>> Elizabeth Dilling in her excellent book THE JEWISH RELIGION:
>>> ITS INFLUENCE TODAY writes:
> 
>>>      "Only through (a) thorough understanding of the ideology from
>>>      which this collectivism originates, and those who dominate and
>>>      propagate it, can the rest of the world hope to escape the same
>>>      fate. Communism Socialism was originated by Jews and has been
>>>      dominated by them from the beginning .... There is no moral,
>>>      philosophical or ethical conflict whatsoever between Judaism and
>>>      Marxist collectivism as they exist in actual practice. Marxism,
>>>      to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was
>>>      originated by a Jew, Karl Marx, himself of Rabbinical descent.
>>>      Every Jewish source today boasts of his rabbinical ancestry, and
>>>      his "keen dialectical ability" (as presumably manifested by his
>>>      abstruse, hair-splitting, DESKAPITAL) being due to his Talmudic
>>>      inheritance .... Marx did not actually originate anything, but
>>>      merely "streamlined" talmudism for Gentile consumption..."
> 
>>> Dr.OscarLevy in his Preface (mentioned above) also wrote:
> 
>>>      "We Jews, who have posed as the Saviors of the World (God's
>>>      Chosen People - what a lie!) we today are nothing else but the
>>>      world's seducers, its destroyers, its incendiaries, its
>>>      executioners."
>
>>>  Bernard Lazare, in his "L'Anti-semitisme" p.350 wrote:
>
>>>      "The jew is not satisfied with de-Christianizing, he Judaizes. He
>>>      destroys ... faith, he provokes indifference, but he imposes his
>>>      idea of the world, of morals, and of life upon those whose faith
>>>      he ruins; he works his age-old task, the annihilation of the
>>>      religion of (Jesus) Christ."
> 
>>> "There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of
>>> Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by
>>> these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
>>> On Feb. 8, 1920  the Illustrated Sunday Herald: by Winston Churchill.
> 
>>> "In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more
>>> astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the
>>> system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating
>>> Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by
>>> Jewesses.
>
>>> "The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of
>>> terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been
>>> presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has
>>> been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.
> 
>>> "...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of
>>> worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has
>>> tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies
>>> which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense
>>> passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian
>>> people."
>
>>> "It was Communism which toppled the hated Czars, Communism which
>>> removed Jewish disabilities and proscribed anti-Semitism and Communism
>>> which, in its early days at least, opened the doors to Jewish advancement."
>>> Chaim Bermant, writing in the Jewish Chronicle (Aug. 30, 1991)
> 
>>>  "The clever Russian is almost always a Jew or has Jewish blood in him."
>>>  (Dmitri Volkogonov, Lenin: A New Biography, p.112).
> 
>>> Lenin declared, "We are exterminating the bourgeoisie as a class." His
>>> partner in crime, Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) stated: "The interests of the
>>> revolution require the physical annihilation of the bourgeoisie class." Who
>>> were these bourgeoisie? Certainly not Jews. Trotsky gave a clue to their
>>> identity in a 1937 interview in the New York Jewish newspaper, Daily
>>> Forward: "The longer the rotten bourgeoisie society lives, the more and
>>> more barbaric will anti-Semitism become everywhere."
> 
>>> Bourgeoisie was a Bolshevik code-word for Gentile. The first law passed
>>> after the Communists seized power in Russia made anti-semitism a crime
>>> punishable by death. (Izvestia, July 27, 1918).
> 
>>> The top Communist Jewish official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without
>>> sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be
>>> thousands; let them drown themselves in their own blood. For the blood of
>>> Lenin and Uritzky, Zinoviev and V_lodarsky, let there be floods of the
>>> blood of the bourgeoisie--more blood! As much as possible!"
>>> (Krasnaya Gazeta, Sept. 1, 1918).
> 
>>> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer recounts what it was like to grow up as
>>> a Russian Christian child among the children of the Jewish communist elite:
>>> "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering
>>> Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule... Solzhenitsyn was,
>>> as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior
>>> status. Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements,
>>> at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..."
>>> (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).
> 
>>> Here is the most genocidal political movement in world history, which
>>> created the largest concentration camps and the most horrendous slave labor
>>> system of the 20th century, in which millions of Christians were
>>> slaughtered (on the size of the Gulag concentration camp system cf. C.
>>> Andrew and O. Gordievsky, KGB: The Inside Story and N.Y. Times, Oct. 22,
>>> 1990, p. 82. None of these camps are being preserved for posterity. Most
>>> were destroyed long ago by special military brigades; cf. Michael Specter,
>>> "Cold Reminder," N.Y. Times, Dec. 3, 1994).
>
>>> "Israelis and American Jews fully agree that the memory of the Holocaust is
>>> an indispensable weapon--one that must be used relentlessly against their
>>> common enemy...Jewish organizations and individuals thus labor continuously
>>> to remind the world of it. In America, the perpetuation of the Holocaust
>>> memory is now a $100-million-a-year enterprise, part of which is
>>> government-funded."
>
>>> the Israeli author Moshe Leshem:( Balaam's Curse, p. 228)
> 
>>> In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist
>>> party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total
>>> population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
> 
>>> "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs
>>> characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme
>>> form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
>>> cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the death
>>> penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).



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On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:31:12 GMT, omerta@casanostra.com wrote:

>It appears that the Jew retard Yehudah Yeraslasky, who may be related
>to former Soviet KGB staff, just can not read, or write in English,
>even though he was at one time a student at Simon Fraser University in
>canada, according to prior articles exposing him...
>That is why is no longer posting from the school, since they took care
>of it...
>
>
>On Tue, 28 Apr 1998 15:09:42 -0600, Igal_Peacemaker@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>omerta@casanostra.com  reported::
>
>>: You are too polite. The liar Igal just wants to malign the good people
>>: of Poland, which is typical of disinformation by the KGB!!!
>
>>: What can one expect from Yehudah Yeraslavsky, a student at Simon
>>: Fraser U, allegedly from former Soviet KGB Jews???
>
>>: To tell the truth?? LOFL
sven88



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On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:09:51 -0800, "((((())))))"
 wrote:

>The Kastner Case
>
>                              
>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that involving
>a Jew - Rudolf Kastner.
>
>Most Jewish people have never heard of Rudolf Kastner. Those who have, are
>generally under the impression that there is some 'controversy' about
>negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and
>military equipment', but that he was 'fully rehabilitated' by the Supreme
>Court of Israel.
>
>                              The Accusations
>
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British Medical
>Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz. In his
>memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:
>
>I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse certain
>Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This  group of quislings knew what was happening to their brethren in
>Hitler's gas chambers and bought their own lives with the price of silence.
>Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council which spoke for all Jews
>in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is
>still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics of the exterminations.
>I took these terrible statistics with me when I escaped in 1944 and I was
>able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks notice that Eichmann
>planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas chambers...Kastner went
>to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your plans; spare some Jews of my
>choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and took
>him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid bargaining
>end there. Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany 
>collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...(Ben Hecht, Perfidy, 
>pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions' published in
>Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander stands
>100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation, I wanted
>to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner was a
>young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He
>agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep
>order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine. It
>was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price was not too
>high for me.
>
>We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would smoke
>one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case and
>lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve he
>would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group of
>Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders. I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a thousand
>or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political goal 'You can
>have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this group here'. And
>because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping keep the deportation
>camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...That was the
>'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner (Hecht, ibid., p.260-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, do not relate merely to 'the purchase of 
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more than
>demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>                                The Verdict
>
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi (who later became one of the panel
>of three judges that tried Eichmann) in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953. The
>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be studied
>carefully.
>
>The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of confidence
>in the false information that they were being transferred to Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had they
>not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and others
>used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help of
>Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local leaders
>of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were spreading
>such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or hampering
>the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few dozen
>police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attempt to overpower these few
>guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to the
>deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the Jews in
>the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn their
>own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders who
>did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of deportations...these
>same leaders did not join the people of their community in their ride to
>Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of extermination
>permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council in Budapest
>to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did this as a
>means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured, dependent on
>the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of its fatal
>deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the Jewish
>leaders into collaboration with the Nazis at the time of the catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in Jewry
>and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their task
>easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S. 
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the Nazis
>interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did the S.S.
>chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the Jewish Rescue
>Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by these
>German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of the
>extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his friends
>in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total annihilation.
>
>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save six
>hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed to him
>greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a great
>personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that would
>also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and the
>Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his soul to
>the German Satan.
>
>The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority of the Jews, in order
>to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the agreement between
>Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of the nation into
>two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the Nazis promised
>Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority or Hungarian Jews
>whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand. An imperative
>condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that Kastner
>will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp and
>will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents and
>treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out from
>the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and put
>down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not only
>the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort to
>evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the wall
>of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he darted quickly to
>another. (Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53;
>Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22,
>1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the 'new
>line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent of
>Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so Kastner
>also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidified in Budapest and Vienna. Kastner's
>duties were part and parcel of the general duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department, the
>Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S. were
>coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler".
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court when
>he denied he had interceded in Becher's behalf. Moreover, he concealed the
>important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the defense to
>provide Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to remove
>Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his testimony
>concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last minute
>fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming truth -
>that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never stood up
>against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has declared in the
>affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews but to
>serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth and no good
>faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment the good
>intention of good Becher'.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommendation by Kastner, not only in his
>own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish World
>Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not exaggerate
>when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because of his personal
>intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the contradictions
>and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were sufficient to
>annul the value of his statements and to prove that there was no good faith
>in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal. Kastner's affidavit
>in favor of Becher was a wilfully false affidavit given in favor of a war
>criminal to save him from trial and punishment in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of his
>statements." 
>
>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of libel
>against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproved
>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also ordered
>the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli pounds as
>court costs.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial pointed to
>much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
> 
>The Reaction
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary know now
>clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>
>If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
>disclose." (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial, instead
>it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the government
>announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed. What
>exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an appeal on
>a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General of
>Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel was
>defending Kastner so strongly:
>
>The man Kastner does not stand here as a private individual. He was a
>recognized representative, official or non-official of the Jewish National
>Institutes in Palestine and of the Zionist Executive; and I come here in
>this court to defend the representative of our national institutions."
>(Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration was
>not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court. But
>the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a 
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the 
>name 
>of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point 
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the facts established in the lower court -
>that Kastner deliberately concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>rehabilitated'.
>
>                        
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging these
>facts, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two, found
>that Kastner's actions were morally justifiable and convicted Greenwald of
>criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>
>Kastner's actions only proved that he was a Nazi collaborator. It is the
>defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that prove
>conclusively that Zionism approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not rehabilitate Kastner.
>They joined him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>....What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in Kluj,
>people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the end of
>their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying, 'The
>Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This vivid
>description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The Jews
>of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable, neither
>physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to the
>Jewish leaders there, and this is a consideration which on can properly
>conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>....And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner when
>he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result from
>his great despair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community. Even
>then, I say, this is still not considered wilful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and say
>that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few Jews
>from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their plan to
>exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission - the
>extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question is not
>whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting its
>doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of his
>efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he disclose
>the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way everybody
>will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the blood of
>the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing with
>the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish District
>Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that his
>findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both from a
>moral and public point of view...
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people who
>boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination, one
>has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and Marton,
>and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an hour of
>crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not warn
>and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in Hungary
>during the last war." (Hecht, ibid., pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the Hungarian
>Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what many
>other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their knowledge of
>the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The most precise answer to this sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is 
>provided in the minority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among the
>leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have a
>clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing here
>with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others....
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into an
>opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray of
>hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal despair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the few -
>therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of collaborating
>with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews, even though, in
>fact, he brought about its result.'
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive such
>an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in cooperation
>with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and without the
>knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the decisive
>consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from the
>testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of the
>Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been able
>to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings, concealment of
>children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money, bribery, etc. -
>and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds of
>thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete certainty
>and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied rescue
>ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does he
>decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation of the
>last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith as
>his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to a
>claim of such good faith...
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people die
>so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will come
>out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an individual
>erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other patients. He
>is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with complete
>loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue operation
>could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which was
>put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then Kastner
>himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make this
>claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report to the
>Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in the
>countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue, and
>the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed the
>news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or resisting
>the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>
>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - nor small revolts,
>and their passion was to have the extermination machine working 
>smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner from
>the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs of
>that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics which
>were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or the
>escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of 
>evidence for this.
>
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire of
>the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of rescuing
>this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great war
>criminal were not so horrifying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't base
>the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it is
>attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws retroactive
>light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion."(Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>                         
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever their
>attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have been
>under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate collaboration
>with the Nazis.
>
>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration with
>the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner gave
>on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to remain
>a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with an
>estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in West
>Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with the
>Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only pressure
>that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for fear of what
>might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and Rescue
>Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on trial .
>Let alone the hundreds of 'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the 
>Hungarian Jews that they were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz,
>in exchange for tickets on the one train that took them eventually to 
>Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarrassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did was
>approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership in
>Palestine. He is 'now dead'. Or putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957
>he was shot by Zeev Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were
>concluded, and before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered.
>Eckstein was not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the
>Israeli secret service. (Hecht, ibid., p.208). Another 'fantastic
>allegation' no doubt; but admitted in court during the murder trial).



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On Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:33:18 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:01:35 GMT, sbjarnason@hotmail.com wrote:
>in support of his jew faggot lovers:
>
>On 1 Jul 1998 20:49:49 GMT, billy_bob@throckmorton.com (Billy Bob
>Throckmorton) wrote:
>
>>In article , ijc@global.plantation.org 
>>says...
>>
>>>On 1 Jul 1998 12:17:04 GMT, Doc Tavish, hiding behind 
>> wrote:
>>>>How many Jews have you ever seen denounce this filthy 
>>>>lifestyle? See what I mean!?
>>
>>>ROTFL!!!  Why should we denounce it? 
>>
>>So you do approve what G-d has condemned? Very interesting indeed. It shows 
>>why Jews have been vomited out of all the lands they have infested if one 
>>is to accept the Torah!
>> 
>>>It's part of the plan to destroy the filthy, inferior ary*n race!  
>>>Encouraging ary*n homosexuality (pretty easy to do, since they're 
>>>already so prone to it) helps keep the white birth rate down. 
>>
>>So you are confessing now that Jews aren't white also? 
>>
>>>Every little bit helps...
>>
>>Your simple admission tells all that homosexuality comes 
>>from Jews! In my studies of the Jew I have learned that the Law
>>given to Moses was for Jews only and not for the people of the 
>>nations or the Goy.
>>
>>See:  http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=325176411
>>
>>and
>>
>>http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=364072939
>>Subject:      The Noachide Laws
>>
>>What does G-d require from non-Jews?
>>--------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>Our sages teach us that G-d gave seven laws or commandments that are
>>binding on all humanity.  The first six of these laws were given to
>>Adam.  Because the last of these seven commandments was given to Noah
>>and his sons, the seven laws are collectively referred to as "the
>>Noachide Laws", or "the Commandments of Noah's Sons".
>>
>>The Noachide Laws are:
>>
>>1.  Not to worship idols;
>>2.  Not to curse G-d;
>>3.  To establish courts of justice (some say, not to pervert justice);
>>4.  Not to murder;
>>5.  Not to commit adultery or incest;
>>6.  Not to steal;
>>7.  Not to eat flesh from a living animal.
>>
>>The Oral Law (the Talmud) teaches clearly that whoever obeys these
>>seven commandments has a portion in the world to come.  
>>
>> Abraham was the first person in history to publicly proclaim the
>>Noachide Laws to the masses, although there certainly were righteous
>>persons before Abraham who knew these commandments and practiced them
>>(Noah himself, to name just one).
>>
>>The Torah was given exclusively to the Jews, along with the
>>responsibility to inform the world of the universal commandments.
>>
>>		-----------END------------
>>
>>I guess this is why homosexual acts were mentioned in your Torah! It 
>>appears you Jew boys liked buggering each other up the ass thousands of 
>>years ago. If this weren't true then why would
>>G-d have told Moses (as depicted in the Jewish Torah):
>>
>>http://www.mnemotrix.com/texis/vtx/chumash
>>
>>Acharey Mot, Leviticus Chapter 18  
>>
>>18 : 22 Do not lie with a male as you would with a woman, since this
>>is a disgusting perversion. 
>>18 : 23 Do not perform any sexual act with an animal, since it will
>>defile you. A woman shall [likewise] not give herself to an animal and
>>allow it to mate with her. This is an utterly detestable perversion. 
>>18 : 24 Do not let yourselves be defiled by any of these acts. It was
>>as a result of them that the nations that I am driving away before you
>>became defiled. 
>>18 : 25 The land became defiled, and when I directed My providence at
>>the sin committed there, the land vomited out its inhabitants. 
>>18 : 26 You, [however,] must keep My decrees and laws, and not become
>>involved in any of these disgusting perversions - neither the native
>>born nor any foreigner who settles among you. 
>>18 : 27 The people who lived in the land before you did all these
>>disgusting perversions and defiled the land. 
>>18 : 28 But [you shall not cause] the land to vomit you out when you
>>defile it, as it vomited out the nation that was there before you. 
>>
>>The same Torah also says:
>>Chumash References
>>Kedoshim, Leviticus Chapter 20 
>>
>>20 : 7 You must sanctify yourselves and be holy, for I am God your
>>Lord. 
>>20 : 8 Safeguard My decrees and keep them, since I am God [and] I am
>>making you holy. 
>>20 : 9 Any person who curses his father or mother shall therefore be
>>put to death. Since he has cursed his father or mother, he shall be
>>stoned to death. 
>>20 : 10 If a man commits adultery with a married woman, [and] she is
>>the wife of a fellow [Israelite], both the adulterer and adulteress
>>shall be put to death. 
>>20 : 11 If a man has intercourse with his father's wife, he has
>>committed a sexual offense against his father. Therefore, both of them
>>shall be put to death by stoning. 
>>20 : 12 If a man has intercourse with his daughter-in-law, both of
>>them shall be put to death. Since they have committed an utterly
>>detestable perversion, they shall be stoned to death. 
>>20 : 13 If a man has intercourse with another man in the same manner
>>as with a woman, both of them have committed a disgusting perversion.
>>They shall be put to death by stoning. 
>>
>>>BTW, for information on rampant homosexuality amongst your
>>>ary*n "heroes:" see "The Pink Swatstika:"
>>>
>>>         http://home.earthlink.net/~lively/
>>
>>I could care less but Jeffrey Georg Brown may be interested.
>>I hope and pray that America "vomits" out its filth soon as well!
>>You all will not be missed!
>>
>>			Billy Bob
>>
>>> Bob Alpert * balpert "at" netaxs.com * Author of the Jewish Conspiracy 
>sven88
>



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On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:13:12 GMT, klarjude@zhid.org wrote:

>On 02 May 1998 16:44:09 GMT, panjanusz@aol.com (Pan Janusz) wrote:
>
>>Translated from Polish:
>
>>Reprinted from "Polish Weekly"  published in Australia.
>
>>Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued the extradition papers
>>for war criminal Samuel Morel. Polish authorities will ask authorities in
>>Israel to extradite Morel.
>>Morel is accused of "cruel treatment and tortures of prisoners and jeopardizing
>>their safety and health." Using common language, between years 1945-1950 he was
>>beating prisoners, torturing and killing them.
>
>>Morel was born in 1919, from 1940 was a member of Jewish band which was
>>assaulting Polish villages in province of Kielce and robbing Polish farmers. In
>>December of 1942 during one of their assaults the band was destroyed by a
>>detachment of People's Army ( communist guerillas in nazi occupied Poland).
>>Father and brother of Morel were executed, he alone became a member of the
>>People's Army. He defected from the group when Red Army was inching toward
>>province of Kielce and became a member of Soviet guerillas.
>>Soon he became an officer of UB (communist Security Office in Soviet occupied
>>Poland).
>>In the beginning of 1945 he was sent to the region of Silesia and received the
>>nomination on the camp commandant for Germans in Swietochlowice.
>> About his crime committed in this camp wrote, among others, an American
>>journalist John Sack in his book "Eye for an eye" ( for this book John Sack who
>>is a Jew was decalred an antisemite).
>>In the end of December of 1945 Morel had been transferred and became a warden
>>of the UB prison in Opole. There he tortured Poles and Germans. He also
>>tortured minors in the labor camp in Jaworzno which he was a commandant between
>>1946-1950. He was fired from this post, for mortality among prisoners was too
>>big. 
>
>>In 1991 he was interviewed by a prosecutor, panicked and fled to Israel.
>>After spending all his money, within few months he returned to Poland, but soon
>>he surfaced in Sweden where he demanded political asylum argumenting that he
>>was persecuted in Poland because he was a Jew. His plea was rejected and Morel
>>again came back to Poland. 
>>On 10th of July Office of the Provincial Prosecutor in Katowice issued arrest
>>warrant. They were late. Morel again fled to Israel.
>>His retirement pention is being picked up by the wife of the criminal.
>>Since 1996 Morel is on the most wanted list of the INTERPOL.
>>According to international law he should be arrested by Israeli police and
>>charged by Israel with war crimes.
>>He should.....
>
>>Translated by Janusz Styber
>



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On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 18:31:48 -0400, PAWLIKOWSKI
 wrote:

>============
>Just a moment ago, on soc.culture.polish, Dr. J. Ilicki, Associate
>Professor of Sociology and Judaic Studies on Upsalla University raised
>the question of Polish Polish in the service of Germans during
>occupation of Poland.  The only reason for this question at this time
>seems to be his need to stir interethnic hatered.  Provacatively, Dr.
>Ilicki asks: 1) who were the members of the police, volunteers or
>draftees?, 2) what was their social status? 3) what happened to them
>after the war?  Just to play completely innocent (and dumb) he also asks
>why they were called Granatowa (dark-navy-blue) Police.
>
>Only naive will believe that Prof. Ilicki does not know the answeres. 
>Also only naive will believe that he is not interested in Pinsk the
>hometown of his parents and allegedly the site of the burial of his
>grandparents and over 30,000 pinksers (Jews from Pinsk).  He admitted
>that his mother listed them as killed there with Yad Vashem.  However,
>young (about 40 years old) Julian pretends disintrest, because he is
>afraid that exhumations might start at the alleged burial site and will
>find no skeletons as same happened last year at nearby Mariompole,
>presently in Lithuania.
>
>But coming back to Dr Illicki question: Polish Police during German
>occupation was  dramatically reduced in numbers and pre-war policemen
>were forced to serve as an auxillary force to German Ordnung Polizei. 
>They were ususally not armed, and when armed never given more than five
>bullets for their long rifles.  Moreover, after each use of firearm they
>(as well as the Ukraininan Police) had to write a report for what target
>each bulett was used and with what effectivness, hardly an invitation to
>the genocide.
>
>On the other hand there was a police force in the Third Reich, in which
>service was completely voluntary.  It was called Ordnungdienst.  Their
>emblem was a light alloy Star of David.  The social background of these
>Jewish collaborators according to Iasaiah Trunk was as follows: 18% with
>post-graduate degrees,  60% with college degree, 20% with elementary
>education.  These are data from self-serving, post-war questionaries.
>
>But even Trunk admits that in Warsaw the requirement was that EACH
>Jewish policeman has at least matura (two years of college) see page 489
>of his book.  In practice, the Jewish policemen were all lawyers and
>journalist who with the day of German occupation immediately were fired
>from their jobs, like the Polish teachers, because the schools were
>closed.
>
>While Polish teachers joined the underground, unemployed Jewish
>intelligentia clamored for the police work.  
>
>Some of it was really guresome as your remember from our previous
>description of the Feb. 1942 execution on Rybna Street market place in
>Lodz.  German newsreel of this horrible hanging is shown endlessly in
>Wisenthal Museum in LA.  Thousands of Jews standing and watching behind
>three uniformed Germans with their backs and holstered pistols facing
>Jewish crowd and about to be hanged women passing out and forced into
>the noose by Jewish Policemen.
>
>-------------
>Jozef Pawlikowski
>
>We think that it is unethical that you refuse to look for the mass
>graves of your relatives and ancestors from Pinsk Dr. Ilicki.  We found
>ours in Katyn, Miednoje Kharkiv, Palmiry, Treblinka I for Poles and
>dozens of other places.  Why you shrink from searching for your
>ancestors, Dr Ilicki?
>
>------------
>
>
>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>> 
>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), cz mogli moze
>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>> mundurow?
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/
>Julian Ilicki wrote:
>> 
>> W ostatnim czasie poruszalo sie tutaj nieco sprawe granatowej policji.
>> Czy ktos wie jak odbywala sie rekrutacja do tej policji? Czy byla to po
>> prostu policja przedwojenna ktora pod innym dowodztwem i w innych mundurach
>> kontynuowala swoja dzialalnosc z okresu przedwojennego? A jezeli tak, to
>> czy przedwojenni policjanci byli zmuszeni do pozostawania w szeregach
>> granatowej policji (i jakimi sankcjami sie to wymuszalo), czy mogli moze
>> policje opuscic po kampanii wrzesniowej? Czy odbywala sie rekrutacja nowych
>> policjantow podczas okupacji i w jaki sposob? Co sie z tymi ludzmi stalo po
>> wojnie? I skad sie bierze nazwa "granatowa policja" - czy od kolorow
>> mundurow?
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Julian Ilicki, Ph.D.                 e-mail: julian.ilicki@soc.uu.se
>> Uppsala Univ., Dept. of Sociology, Box 821, S-751 08 Uppsala, Sweden
>> voice, office: +46 - 18 4711513      voice, private: +46 - 18 204747
>> fax, Dept.:    +46 - 18 4711170      cellular:      +46 - 70 7533731
>>               http://www.soc.uu.se/staff/julian_i.html
>>                     http://www.soc.uu.se/~julian/



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On Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:49:56 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Jun 1997 07:10:26 -0800, in alt.revisionism
>hoffman@hoffman-info.com (Michael A. Hoffman II) wrote:
>
>>Michael A. Hoffman II comments: Why didn't these two Orthodox Hasidic
>>(Bobover sect) rabbis enjoy the usual rabbinic immunity from arrest for
>>their crimes? Could it be that their mantle of protection was removed by
>>the more powerful Reform and Conservative Jews in America with whom they
>>are at war in occupied Palestine over issues pertaining to modernity and
>>conversion? Is this a warning to the Orthodox to back off from their
>>assaults on Reform and Orthodox Jews? For more go to:
>>http://www.hoffman-info.com
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>2 Rabbis Charged With Money Laundering
>
>By ROBERT D. McFADDEN NY Times June 17, 1997
>
>NEW YORK -- A dozen men, including two identified as Orthodox Jewish
>rabbis, were charged by federal authorities Monday with conspiring to
>launder and hide $1.75 million in drug profits for Colombian narcotics
>dealers by routing the cash through the bank accounts of a synagogue
>and a yeshiva in Brooklyn. 
>
>The bizarre case, federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said, brought
>togethera collection of strange bedfellows -- five New York
>representatives of Colombian drug traffickers, three go-betweens who
>purportedly transported cash in suitcase quantities, and four men with
>ties to a close-knit Jewish community. 
>
>At one point, the officials charged, the rabbis ran tens of millions
>of dollars in drug profits through the bank accounts of a relatively
>modest Borough Park synagogue and provided nearly $3.5 million from
>American and Swiss accounts for the purchase of an aircraft for the
>Colombian drug lords. 
>
>"Money launderers are the indispensable partners of major drug
>traffickers, and the  cynical act of using religious institutions to
>conceal drug proceeds is particularly reprehensible," said Zachary
>Carter, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, in
>announcing the charges. 
>
>Seven defendants, including Rabbi Mahir Reiss, 47, of 3543 Bedford
>Ave., and Rabbi Bernard Grunfeld, 64, of 1417 46th St., both in
>Brooklyn, were arrested Monday and were arraigned late in the day
>before U.S. Magistrate Judge Roanne L. Mann, charged with conspiracy
>to launder money. Two suspects, Grunfeld and Israel Knobloch, 24, of
>5200 15th Ave., Brooklyn, also were charged with conspiring to avoid
>federal cash-transaction reporting requirements. 
>
>Six defendants were held without bail, and one, Abraham Reiss, 48, of
>320 Riverside Drive in Manhattan, a brother of Mahir Reiss, was
>released on $750,000 bail. Three other men named in the federal
>complaint were listed as fugitives, and two more were being held in
>custody elsewhere in New York in other cases, according to Lee Dunst,
>the assistant federal attorney prosecuting the case. 
>
>Unveiling a three-year undercover investigation that used
>court-authorized wiretaps and other surveillance, the federal
>complaint charged that the two rabbis and Abraham Reiss laundered
>$750,000 by taking cash from go-betweens, depositing it in the bank
>accounts of a synagogue-based organization and, after subtracting
>commissions, writing checks to drug traffickers. 
>
>Investigators said the bank accounts used in the scheme, held in the
>name of Chaim Shel Shulem, which shares quarters with Congregation
>Eitz Chaim at 1577 48th St. in Borough Park, held deposits of more
>than $19 million during the 10-month period when the laundering
>transactions occurred, between August 1995 and May 1996. 
>
>Grunfeld, listed as the president of Chaim Shel Shulem, was said to
>have written all the checks that went to the drug traffickers. He and
>Knobloch were also accused of concealing the movement of $1 million in
>drug money by making 95 deposits and withdrawals of just under $10,000
>-- the amount that triggers a government cash-transaction reporting
>requirement -- through the bank accounts of Congregation Eitz Chaim
>and Bobover Yeshiva, at the same location. 
>
>The defendants made no statements in court Monday. While Grunfeld was
>listed by prosecutors as the head of Chaim Shel Shulem, dozens of
>people at Congregation Eitz Chaim late Monday declined to say anything
>about him or the case. Some seemed not to recognize the name Chaim
>Shel Shulem. 
>
>The synagogue and yeshiva are in a five-story building with a brick
>front and a small awning imprinted with the institution's name in
>Hebrew. The only words in English on the facade call it "the Katz
>Family of Mexico Building." 
>
>In a ground-floor, two-room school lined with books, about 100 people
>were studying at tables. A man who appeared to be in charge, but who
>would not give his name, said he knew nothing about the two rabbis
>named in the federal complaint. 
>
>The federal investigation -- an undertaking of the U.S. Attorney's
>Office, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Internal Revenue Service
>-- began in 1994, when agents detected a pattern of cash deposits and
>withdrawals intended to circumvent the government's reporting rules in
>various bank accounts held in the name of the synagogue and yeshiva,
>officials said. 
>
>With court-authorized telephone wiretaps, surveillance and other
>techniques, the investigators said they uncovered a conspiracy in
>which Grunfeld and Knobloch eventually made more than $1 million in
>deposits and withdrawals -- transactions, they said, that let the
>conspirators move large sums of illicit drug profits. 
>
>Later, in 1995 and 1996, investigators said, the 12 men named in
>Monday's complaint conducted a full money-laundering operation. Five
>of them -- Lisandro Montes De Oca, 29; Francisco Gil, 30; Estenio
>Rodriguez, 30; Juan Suarez, 39, and Alvaro Duque, 36 --were said to
>have brought in large sums that Colombian drug dealers wanted to
>launder. 
>
>The money was given to three men described as intermediaries -- Jack
>Pinski, 35, a Colombian who is a fugitive, and Roberto Buendia, 40,
>and Fabio Arana, both of Medford, N.Y. They were said to have counted
>and stashed the money at an apartment at  243 West 75th St. 
>
>There, prosecutors said, Abraham Reiss picked up the money. It was
>later deposited in various accounts held in the name of Chaim Shel
>Shulem.
>
>Grunfeld, the organization's president, signed checks that were made
>out to "entities in accordance with drug traffickers' instructions,"
>the federal complaint said. 
>
>Those instructions were communicated through Rabbi Reiss, who had no
>formal connections to Chaim Shel Shulem, investigators said.
>Commissions of 13 percent to 15 percent were deducted from the
>laundered money and divided among the intermediaries. 
>
>Prosecutors said they did not know how members of a deeply religious
>community came  into contact with professional money launderers and
>drug traffickers. But they charged that in 1994, Rabbis Reiss and
>Grunfeld, and Abraham Reiss arranged $3.4 million in financing to buy
>a Beech Super King aircraft, a type commonly used by drug smugglers.
>=================================================================
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>
>
>
>
>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:27:33 GMT, polis-etica@NOSPAMmailcity.com
>(polis-etica) wrote:
>
>>One of the most popular and successful ways to launder money is
>>through Jewish religious institutions, such as yeshivas and
>>synagogues. One reason for the growing power of the Jews in the
>>laundering drug money business is the Law of Return with its easy
>>possibility of escape to Israel. The Jewish religious institutions
>>badly need funds. The Colombians drug traders can be generous. They
>>transfer their drug money "which go to the Jewish religious
>>institutions one way and come out by the other way back to the donors.
>>The synagogue or yeshiva obtain a respectable percentage for its pious
>>uses. Everyone is happy: the drug barons who launder their money
>>quickly and efficiently and the synagogue or yeshiva which makes easy
>>money. In May 1993, five members of Jewish international laundering
>>which had worked with the Kali cartel were arrested. The ring was
>>exposed following an FBI 'sting' operation, in the framework of which
>>it established a dummy corporation called Prism, which served the gang
>>for laundering money. The head of the ring was an Israeli named Zion
>>Ya'akov Evenheim, known as 'Zero' Evenheim who had a dual Israeli and
>>Colombian citizenship, stayed in Kali, from where he coordinated the
>>activity and supervised the transfers of money. Evenheim was arrested
>>by Interpol in Switzerland and extradited to the U.S.. 



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On Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:13:38 GMT, oyvaykenSOB@zhid.org wrote:

>The article below, from dejanews, seems to have much relevance, now
>that cardinal Glemp has had the guts to tell the Jews to stop
>interfering in the internal affairs of Poland!!!
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:37:14 -0600, someone@somewhere.com wrote:
>
>>I think that you forgot the Polish JEW, Felix Dzerzhinski, the subhuman
>>who established the Soviet secret police.
>
>>he and his gangs of murdering JEW Kommissars are responsible for the
>>murders of tens of millions in Russia, as well as the more than 30
>>millions they killed in the Ukraine!!!
>
>
>>Clancy wrote:
>
>>> "Some call it Marxism  I call it Judaism."
>>> (The American Bulletin, Rabbi S. Wise,  May 5, 1935).
>
>>>                             Top Jewish Communists
>
>>>  Of the top 556 functionaries in the first Communist Russian
>>> government, over 400 were Jews. Of the first 119 members of the
>>> Communist Russian Council ruling Russia, 81 were Jews.
>
>>> V.I. Lenin, supreme dictator. Leon Bronstein (Trotsky): supreme commander
>>> of the Soviet Red Army. Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev): executive, Soviet
>>> Secret Police. Solomon Lozovsky: deputy Soviet foreign minister. Maxim
>>> Wallach (Litvinov): Soviet foreign minister. Yuri Andropov: director,
>>> Soviet KGB, later supreme dictator of the Soviet Union.
>
>>> Jacob Sverdlov: first president of the Soviet Union. Sverdlov ordered the
>>> massacre of the Czar's family--women and children--in the town named after
>>> Catherine the Great, Yekaterinburg, (renamed Sverdlovsk in 1924 in honor of
>>> the murderer).
>
>>> Jacob Yurovsky: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Yurovsky led the death
>>> squad which carried out Sverdlov's order for the murder of the Czar's
>>> family, including the bayoneting to death of the Czar's daughters. The
>>> Ipatyev house, where, in the basement, the massacre had occurred, stood
>>> intact until 1977, when the local Communist party boss at that time, Boris
>>> Yeltsin, ordered it demolished, lest it become a shrine to anti-Jewish
>>> sentiment.
>
>>>  Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich : chief mass murderer for Stalin, ordered
>>>  the deaths of millions and the wholesale destruction of Christian monuments
>>> and churches, including the great Cathedral of Christ the Savior.
>>> Standing amid the rubble of the cathedral, Kaganovich proclaimed,
>>> "Mother Russia is cast down. We have ripped away her skirts."
>>> (N.Y. Times, Sept. 26, 1995).
> 
>>> Mikhail Kaganovich: deputy commissar of heavy industry, supervisor of slave
>>> labor, brother of Lazar. Rosa Kaganovich: Stalin's mistress; sister of
>>> Lazar. Paulina Zhemchuzina: member of the Central Committee and wife of
>>> Soviet Foreign Minister Molotov. Olga Bronstein: officer, Soviet Cheka
>>> Secret Police, sister of Trotsky, wife of Kamenev.
>
>>> Genrikh Yagoda: chief of Soviet Secret Police, mass murderer
>>> extraordinaire. (Jewish poet Romain Rolland, winner of the Nobel Prize,
>>> wrote a hymn of praise to Yagoda).
> 
>>> Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel: founders, the Gulag death camp system.
>
>>> Lev Inzhir, commissar for Soviet death camp transit and administration.
>>> Boris Berman: executive officer of the Soviet Secret Police and brother of
>>> Matvei. K.V. Pauker: chief of operations, Soviet NKVD Secret Police.
>
>>> Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk: commissars of death camps and slave labor,
>>> supervised the mass deaths of laborers during the construction of the White
>>> Sea--Baltic Canal.
> 
>>> M.I. Gay: commander, Soviet Secret Police. Slutsky and Shpiegelglas:
>>> commanders, Soviet Secret Police. Isaac Babel: officer, Soviet Secret
>>> Police.
>
>>> Leiba Lazarevich Feldbin (Aleksandr Orlov): commander, Soviet Red Army;
>>> officer, Soviet Secret Police. Feldbin was chief of Soviet Security in the
>>> Spanish Civil War. He supervised the massacre of Catholic priests and
>>> peasants in Spain.
> 
>>> Yona Yakir: general, Soviet Red Army, member of the Central Committee.
>>> Dimitri Shmidt: general, Soviet Red Army. Yakov ("Yankel") Kreiser:
>>> general, Soviet Red Army. Miron Vovsi: general, Soviet Red Army.
>
>>> David Dragonsky: general, Soviet Red Army, Hero of the Soviet Union.
>>> Grigori Shtern: general, Soviet Red Army. Mikhail Chazkelevich: general,
>>> Soviet Red Army. Shimon Kirvoshein: general, Soviet Red Army. Arseni
>>> Raskin: deputy-commander, Soviet Red Army. Haim Fomin, commander of
>>> Brest-Litovsk, Soviet Red Army. At least one hundred Soviet generals were
>>> Jewish (cf. Canadian Jewish News, April 19, 1989).
>
>>> Generals who were not themselves Jewish often had Jewish wives. Among these
>>> were Marshal Voroshilov, Marshal Bulganin, Marshal Peresypkin and General
>>> Pavel Sudoplatov (Sudoplatov assassinated hundreds of Christian leaders
>>> including Ukranian Catholic Archbishop Teodor Romzha). This Jewish wife
>>> "insurance policy" extended to Politburo members such as Andrei Andreyev
>>> and Leonoid Brezhnev.
> 
>>> Sergei Eisenstein: director of communist propaganda films which depicted
>>> Christian peasants (kulaks) as hideous, money-grabbing parasites. The
>>> kulaks were subsequently massacred. (Cf. for example Eisenstein's Bezhin
>>> Meadow).
>
>>> KOMZET: commission for the settlement of Jewish Communists on land seized
>>> from murdered Christians in Ukraine; funded by Jewish-American financier
>>> Julius Rosenwald.
> 
>>> Ilya Ehrenburg, Minister of Soviet Propaganda he won the Order of Lenin
>>> and the Stalin Prize. He willed his papers to the Israeli Yad Vashem
>>> 'Holocaust' Museum.
>
>>> Solomon Mikhoels: commissar of Soviet propaganda. Soviet film
>>> propagandists: Mark Donsky, Leonid Lukov, Yuli Reisman, Vasily
>>> Grossman,Yevgeny Gabrilovich, Boris Volchok and Lillian Hellman (old movies
>>> written by her continue to be broadcast on American telelvision).
> 
>>> Soviet propagandist: Yevgeny Khaldei who staged the photo of the raising of
>>> the hammer and sickle flag over the Reichstag in Berlin, May 2, 1945.
>>> Afterward, a special plane was waiting to fly Khaldei, Stalin's top Tass
>>> photographer, to a Moscow lab, where his photo was further doctored (loot
>>> displayed on one of the Soviet soldier's wrists was removed in the negative
>>> and Khaldei added clouds and smoke to the scene for dramatic effect (see
>>> photo of Khaldei and his beloved flag at left). Khaldei continued to work
>>> as a premier Soviet propagandist until his retirement from Pravda in 1972.
>>> His Communist propaganda is proudly on display at the Jewish Museum of New
>>> York and the Jewish Museum of San Francisco.
> 
>>> Nikolai Bukharin: Lenin's chief theorist. Samuel Agursky: commissar. Karl
>>> Radek: member, Central Committee. Mikhail Gruzenberg (Borodin) commissar.
>>> A.A. Yoffe: commissar. David Ryazanov: advisor to Lenin. Lev Grigorievich
>>> Levin: physician, poisoner of Stalin's enemies. Lev Rosenfeld (Kamenev):
>>> member of the Central Committee.
>
>>> Ivan Maisky: Soviet Ambassador to Britain. Itzik Solomonovich Feffer:
>>> commissar, Soviet Secret Police. Abraham Sutskever: Soviet
>>> terrorist-partisan. Mark Osipovich Reizen: Soviet propagandist, winner of
>>> three Stalin Prizes. Lev Leopold Trepper: Soviet espionage officer.
> 
>>> Bela Kun (Kohen): supreme dictator of Hungary in 1919. Kun was later
>>> Stalin's chief terrorist in the Crimea. Kun's eventual successor was Matyas
>>> Rakosi, Jewish Communist mass murderer of Christians in Hungary. According
>>> to the Jewish Telegraph Agency of May 14, 1997, Jews "...played key roles
>>> in ushering Communist rule into Hungary. In fact, during the brutal
>>> oppression of the early 1950s, the regime's top five leaders were Jews. "
> 
>>> Zakharovich Mekhlis: top executioner for Stalin. Henrykas Zimanas: leader
>>> of Lithuanian communist terrorists, butcher of Christians.
> 
>>> Moshe Pijade (sometimes spelled Piade): commander, Yugoslav Communist
>>> People's Army. Tito's top butcher of hundreds of thousands of Croatian
>>> Christians. Pijade later served as president of the Yugoslav Communist
>>> Parliament. At least eighteen generals in the Yugoslav Communist People's
>>> Army were Jewish. The Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms
>>> shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.
> 
>>> In post-war Poland that nation was completely dominated by Jewish
>>> communists: the torturer Jacek Rozanski, head of the Secret Police;
>>> the Politboro commander Jacob Berman  and commissars Minc, Specht
>>> (Olszewski) and Spychalski.
> 
>>> These men murdered or deported to Kolyma and the other Arctic death
>>> camps, tens of thousands of Catholic Poles.
> 
>>> According to Jewish researcher John Sack, "In 1945 many Poles felt (and not
>>> without reason) that Jews ran the Office of State Security...the chief of
>>> the Office was Jacob Berman, a Jew, and all or almost all the department
>>> heads were Jews." Sack reports that 75% of the officers of the Communist
>>> Secret Police in Silesia were Jews. He noted that many Jews in the
>>> Communist terror apparatus in Poland changed their names to Polish ones
>>> like :  (cf. John Sack, The New Republic, Feb. 14, 1994, p. 6.
> 
>>> ROMAN ROMKOWSKI (Natan Grunspau Kikiel),
>>> JULIUSZ HIBNER (David Schwartz).
>>> JOZEF ROZANSKI (Goldberg)
>>> JERZY BORESZA ( Goldberg)
>>> ROMAN ZAMBROWSKI (Rubin Nussbaum)
>>> EUGENIUSZ SZYR
>>> LUNA BYSTRYGIER .
>>> ANATOL FEIGIN
>>> JOZEF SWIATLO
>>> Capt. STUDENCKI
>>>  Lt. JURKOWSKI.
>>> ZYGMUNT OKRET
>>> TADEUSZ ZABLUDOWSKI
>>> ROMAN WERLF.
>>> LEON KASMAN,
> 
>>> Generals: WIKTOR GROSZ, ARTHUR STAROWICZ, ADAM SCHAFF,
>>> ZYGMUNT MODZELEWSKI,MARIAN NASZKOWSKI,
>>> MIECZYSLAW OGRODZINSKI, JULIUSZ KATZ-SUCHYSa
> 
>>> In Poland, "...a disproportionate number of Communists were Jews. In 1930,
>>> at its peak, 35% of the members of the party were Jewish. In Communist
>>> youth organizations, Jewish membership was even higher, while Communists of
>>> Jewish origin occupied most of the seats on the central committee.
>>> Communism appealed to some Jews because it opposed anti-Semitism more
>>> vigorously than any other Polish party...Jewish Communists reached their
>>> apogee in the years immediately after World War Two, when the party
>>> leadership was totally in the hands of the prewar Communist leadership that
>>> abhorred anti-Semitism." (Sheldon Kirshner, The Canadian Jewish News, Nov.
>>> 5, 1992, p. 16).
> 
>>> Of course when one encounters the issue of Jews, Communists and Catholics
>>> in Poland in the Establishment media or universities today, the mass murder
>>> of the Polish Catholics at the hands of the Jewish Communists, is never
>>> raised.
> 
>>> "The average Pole could not but notice in the Stalinist era that the two most
>>> powerful men in the country--Berman and Minc--were both Jewish as was
>>> the dreaded security official Rozanski."
>>> Piotr S. Wandycz of Yale University (N.Y. Review of Books,
>>>  Aug. 18, 1983, p. 51).
> 
>>> Julius Hammer, M.D.: New York abortionist and co-founder of the American
>>> communist party. Armand Hammer: fundraiser and financier for Lenin and
>>> Stalin, son of Julius.
> 
>>> Lev Davidovich Landau: Stalinist physicist, co-father of the Soviet atomic
>>> bomb. Klaus Fuchs: helped steal atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Ruth
>>> Werner: colonel, Red Army GRU intelligence, assisted Fuchs. Julius and
>>> Ethel Rosenberg: stole American atomic bomb secrets for Stalin. Morris
>>> Cohen (Peter Kroger): assisted the Rosenbergs. Markus Wolf: chief of
>>> German Communist Stasi Secret Police.
> 
>>> Howard Fast: American communist propagandist for Stalin. David
>>> Dubinsky: Stalin's ally, head of the U.S. International Ladies Garment
>>> Workers Union. Nahum Goldmann: founder, World Jewish Congress, communist
>>> propagandist. Rabbi Moses Rosen: agent, Romanian communist party. Victor
>>> Rothschild: top British espionage agent for Stalin.
> 
>>> Mark Zborowski:  "...considered by historians of Soviet terror operations to
>>> have been the most fearsome...(Soviet) spy of all time" (Stephen Schwartz,
>>> Forward, Jan. 26, 1996). Zborowski, a medical researcher, murdered a
>>> dissident with a poisoned orange at the Soviet-run hospital in Paris.
>>> Zborowski was implicated in several other assassinations in 1936 and 1937.
>>> In the 1940s worked for both the American Jewish Committee and the KGB. In
>>> the 1960s Zborowski worked as a medical researcher at Mount Zion Hospital
>>> in San Francisco. He trained numerous psychiatrists and medical specialists
>>> in the Bay Area. He died in 1990 (cf. "The Strange Case of Doctor Zborowski
>>> and Monsieur Etienne" by Philippe Videlier, in Le Monde Diplomatique, Dec.
>>> 1992).
> 
>>> The African National Congress (ANC) in South Africa was guided by two
>>> Communist Jews, Albie Sachs, "one of its foremost intellectuals"( London
>>> Sunday Times, Aug. 29, 1993) and Yossel Mashel Slovo (Joe Slovo).
> 
>>> Slovo was born in a shtetl in Lithuania and grew up speaking Yiddish and
>>> studying the Talmud. He joined the ANC's terrorist wing, the Umkhonto we
>>> Sizwe, in 1961 and eventually became its commander. He was named Secretary
>>> General of the South African Communist Party in 1986. ("Joe Slovo," Jewish
>>> Chronicle, Jan. 13, 1995).
> 
>>> Slovo had been the " planner of many of the ANC terrorist attacks,
>>> including the 1983 car bomb that killed 19 people and injured many
>>> others... Slovo, who had traveled to the Soviet Union many times, was
>>> awarded a Soviet medal on his 60th birthday...Slovo is a dedicated
>>> Communist, a Marxist Leninist without morality of any kind, for whom only
>>> victory counts, whatever the human cost, whatever the bloodshed...Slovo
>>> disputes little of his image as 'the Communist mastermind' behind the ANC's
>>> armed struggle. For him the fears of South Africa's whites are both a
>>> measure of the ANC's growing strength and a crucial factor in hastening
>>> what he believes will be its ultimate victory. 'Revolutionary violence has
>>> created the inspirational impact that we had intended, and it has won for
>>> the ANC its leading position,' Slovo said." ("Rebel Strategist Seeks to End
>>> Apartheid," L.A. Times, Aug. 16, 1987, p. 14). When Nelson Mandela's ANC
>>> took over South Africa, Slovo was named Minister of Housing.
> 
>>> Slovo, a Yiddish-speaking Lithuanian Jew, was Secretary General of the
>>> South African Communist Party and director of the military wing of the ANC,
>>> which perpetrated numerous terror bombings against white civilians.
> 
>>> Ambassador David Rowl and Franches wrote about his experiences in
>>> Russia at that tragic time in RUSSIA FROM THE AMERICAN EMBASSY,
>>> Scribner, 1921. He declared
> 
>>>      "...The Bolshevik leaders here, most of whom are Jews, and 90% of
>>>      whom are returned exiles, are little for Russi