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From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Fri Nov  1 10:43:07 PST 1996
Article: 89501 of soc.culture.german
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Subject: WARNING - if considering Investing in Canada!!!!
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 07:35:02 -0700
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Your statements are completely incorrect, and I am correcting your lies at
the relevant sections.


On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Rey Carolino wrote:
>  wrote:

WARNING - before putting up any money to a firm that can not even spell
properly in English, check with Canada Immigration, or better still with
friends or relatives already in Canada!!!

Did you know that new immigrants entering Canada after 1st january 1996
must now pay income tax on their OVERSEAS ASSETS, not just their income,
at rates of around 70%??!!!!

> Not true!  You don't pay income taxes on your ASSETS.  You pay income
> taxes on the amount of income you make during the year.  And 70% is
> not right. Highest individual income tax bracket for income in excess
> of $60,000 is taxed at about 50%.


As of 1st January 1996, all immigrants to canada, especially the Chinese
immigrants, will pay Income Taxes on their overseas ASSETS, as declared by
Revenue Canada Minister Jane Stewart. She has held many press conferences
to explain this,which have been published in Canadian newspapers  such as
in the Vancouver Sun, and Canadian Chinese Times.
The 70% income tax rate is the combination of the 50% FEDERAL tax, plus
the appropriate Provincial Income Tax, which combine to equal
approximately 70% income tax - on overseas ASSETS.

Apparently this new tax on the Chinese, similar to the hated "head tax",
is to replace the taxes not paid by the JEW BRONFMAN. Bronfman illegally
moved more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of Canada without paying his
income taxes, so the Canadian Government will now be swindling the Chinese
to make up for the lost taxes from the JEW.

I strongly recommend that you all consider other safe countries, rather
than Canada, where you will surely get swindled.

Have you all forgotten the publicised story about JOE DUTTON? He was in
Hong Kong as the official for the Government of Alberta Canada. he is now
under criminal trial for swindling more than $3 million from investors
>from  taiwan and Hong Kong. There have been many other similar swindles,
done both by gwaliau and even by Chinese.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sat Nov  2 09:31:01 PST 1996
Article: 78207 of alt.revisionism
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Subject: BNAI BRITH ENDORSES REFORM PARTY-Kiss of Death??
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 21:17:22 -0700
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The full text of the original message is provided, so that you may all
know the truth,as provided by Bnai Brith.

> On 30 Oct 1996, Russ Kuykendall wrote:
Following is a news release as it appeared on B'nai Brith Canada
masthead).
B'NAI  BRITH  CANADA
NEWS RELEASE/COMMUNIQUE
  
B'NAI  BRITH  CRITICIZES  LIBERAL  MISUSE  OF  LANGUAGE
  
FOR  IMMEDIATE  RELEASE		OCTOBER 30, 1996
 
B'nai Brith today criticized the Liberal Party's characterization of the
Reform Party rhetoric as "extreme right".
  
"We have criticized members of various parties for statements which we
consider unacceptable, but this kind of blanket characterization of
everything the Reform Party says is really unfortunate," said Professor
Stephen Scheinberg, National Vice-President of B'nai Brith and Co-editor of
the book "The Extreme Right: International Peace and Security at Risk" to
be published in 1997 by Westview.
 
He further noted that, "to call the Reform Party as a whole extreme right
is to stretch the meaning of this term beyond recognition.  The Reform
Party has in the past been very quick to deal with extremists who have
tried to infiltrate their ranks.  It will be difficult to recognize real
extremists if we apply this term to everyone on the right of centre."
  
B'nai Brith League for Human Rights issues its Audit of Anti-Semitic
Incidents annually and has recognized expertise on hate crimes, hate on the
Internet and racists in Canada.  The Institute for International Affairs
developed the study which formed the basis of the book co-edited by
Professor Scheinberg.  B'nai Brith has often intervened when the misuse of
labels threatens the domain of public and civil debate.
For further information
Rubin Friedman Director of Government Relations (phone number deleted)
Professor Stephen Scheinberg Vice-President of B'nai Brith (phone number
deleted)

> Russ Kuykendall

Now that the JEWS are backing the Reform Party, does this mean that Presto
Manning takes his orders from Tel Aviv???

What can be the difference between Jews controlling or giving orders to
the lousy Liberals, the Permanently Constipated PC's, the New Depression
Party, or the rotten reformers, since all takes their orders from Jews???



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sat Nov  2 09:31:01 PST 1996
Article: 78235 of alt.revisionism
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Subject: Re: Grosvenor's desparate
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:55:49 -0700
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Are you also another mamser, that you are concerned?Or, maybe you are a
golem?



On 27 Oct 1996, Derek Bell wrote:

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From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sat Nov  2 12:41:54 PST 1996
Article: 95291 of can.general
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Subject: COURT OF APPEAL DEFENDS SHOOTING CRIMINALS
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:29:49 -0700
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Yesterday in the Alberta Court of Appeal,Appeal Court Chief Justice
Catherine Fraser stated:"In certain circumstances, some inherently
unlawful acts must be considered lawful."

The Alberta Court of Appeal ruled that Queens Bench Justice Erik Lefsrud
erred in failing to instruct the jury in 1995, that Erwin Simon's conduct
could be legally acceptable.

This Appeal decision follows three cases heard in Alberta this year, where
victims of criminals had used weapons to shoot the criminals. In all
cases, juries had acquitted the victims who shot the criminals.

In view of the Chief Justice's comments, perhaps the Crown Prosecutors
will forget about wasting more taxpayer money in harrassing Mr. Simon.
After all, a jury will more than likely dismiss the charges.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sat Nov  2 12:41:57 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: COURT OF APPEAL DEFENDS SHOOTING CRIMINALS
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 18:23:07 -0700
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If the crown prosecutor wishes to decline to prosecute, that is their
discretionary right.

I am sure that Doug Christie, Counsel for the accused, will be discussing
with the Crown to either drop the charges, or perhaps 'stay' the charges,
based on the very strong statement of the Court of Appeal Chief Justice.





On 1 Nov 1996, Mike Apoc wrote:

> acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote in article
Yesterday in the Alberta Court of Appeal,Appeal Court Chief Justice
Catherine Fraser stated:"In certain circumstances, some inherently
unlawful acts must be considered lawful."

> 	Key phrase: "certain circumstances"

In view of the Chief Justice's comments, perhaps the Crown Prosecutors
will forget about wasting more taxpayer money in harrassing Mr. Simon.
After all, a jury will more than likely dismiss the charges.

> 	That's what courts and juries are for,  professor, to make that
> determination. In a democratic society it is not up to the prosecutor
> to decide whether someone is guilty or innocent. It is up to the jury.
> 	Do you want to base the outcome of your legal battles on someone's
> speculation on what a group of people *may* decide? Hmph!... I didn't
> think so.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sun Nov  3 08:22:04 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: COURT OF APPEAL DEFENDS SHOOTING CRIMINALS
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 18:04:58 -0700
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Actually, I support Erwin Simon, and also the ruling of the Chief Justice.

Sometimes, even the Courts make sensible rulings, and when she states that
shooting criminals is sometimes permitted, then I must start thinking....



On 3 Nov 1996 ccomrade@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> : Yesterday in the Alberta Court of Appeal,Appeal Court Chief Justice
> : Catherine Fraser stated:"In certain circumstances, some inherently
> : unlawful acts must be considered lawful."
> 
> : The Alberta Court of Appeal ruled that Queens Bench Justice Erik Lefsrud
> : erred in failing to instruct the jury in 1995, that Erwin Simon's conduct
> : could be legally acceptable.
> 
> : This Appeal decision follows three cases heard in Alberta this year, where
> : victims of criminals had used weapons to shoot the criminals. In all
> : cases, juries had acquitted the victims who shot the criminals.
> 
> 
> Hmmm... I wonder why Grosvenor is getting all uptight about the legality 
> of shooting criminals?
> 
> 
> --Captain Comrade, Socialist, Agnostic, Proud.  Deal with it.
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sun Nov  3 09:54:55 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Big brother Mcvay is watching
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:22:42 -0700
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It seems that the Power-full yellow-bellied sack of shit, still has not
the guts to answer the questions from intphase!!!

Could it be because it was diddling with another faggot, and found
perversions more interesting, than telling the truth?



On 28 Oct 1996, Charles R.L. Power wrote:

> intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () writes:
> 
> >KEN MCVAY - A PROFILE
> 
> This, from a yellow-bellied sack of shit who lacks the guts to post
> under his own name. By golly, the same yellow-bellied sack of shit who
> lacks even the guts to keep posting under the same pseudonym....
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sun Nov  3 14:05:55 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Mcvay's minion upset!!
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I notice that the scum known as OyVey has repeatedly refused to answer
your legitimate questions.

Of what is it afraid, that perhaps his past is not as spotless as his Jews
would have the world believe?



On 3 Nov 1996 intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

>  LITTLE HELPERS UPSET
> 
> It seems some of Ken McVays obsequious sycophants are upset with
> my mild comments of the Edmonton Journal article profiling the mighty Ken.
> I was very disappointed with the vulgar, foul mouthed vitriol spewed by his
> pimply faced moronic newsgroup stormtroopers.  Is sub adolescent
> profanity the best you can do.  I know good help is hard to find, but really.!
> Such language!
> 
> These yapping mongrels have attempted to come to the aid of their 
> overstuffed master.  Was the mighty computer program having difficulty
> that these pathetic minions were unleashed!  You really hurt my feelings.
> If you don't behave yourselves I'm going to tell your mommies the bad
> things you're saying, so that she bites you in the neck!!
> 
> 
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov  4 06:14:15 PST 1996
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From: 
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Subject: Re: Mcvay's minion upset!!
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:12:07 -0700
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It seems that some ignoramus at some southern mental home can not read
proper English.

Since when do I represent intphase, a well-known radical in Alberta??
If you want to compare differing political philosophies, just check the 2
websites.

Mine is at http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/acumen/acumen1.html

Intphase's is at:	http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~intphase



On 3 Nov 1996, william c anderson wrote:

> acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> : I notice that the scum known as OyVey has repeatedly refused to answer
> : your legitimate questions.
> : 
> : Of what is it afraid, that perhaps his past is not as spotless as his Jews
> : would have the world believe?
> 
> Um... you're talking to yourself again, William.  You might want
> to have that looked at.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov  4 06:44:35 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: This is the kind of man ve6yj(Edward Panker) is
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:15:42 -0700
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Methinks Codfish doth protest too much, or else he is lying like a rug, as
usual.

In the past few weeks he has alleged that he has lots of legal eagle
friends helping him. Why is he unable to find out the truth, whether he
has any sort of a case regarding the honest entreprenuer?Could it be that
Kaddish just keeps on lying, and has no legal helpers,even against ve6yj?



On 3 Nov 1996 jkodish@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> ve6yj@compusmart.ab.ca wrote:
> : You might not be far off.  I advised that NetLine 2000 (another place where 
> : Kodish has/had an account) be well advised to run some traces on their lines 
> : periodically to see if Kodish might be e-mailing little kiddies to lure them 
> : into his sick web of lust.
> 
> : I don't know if they ever took me up on it, and they have had a recent 
> : office move, but I notice that Kodish doesn't post much from that account ...
> 
> : Coincidence?  Part of .................... THE UNEXPLAINED!
> 
> If there was ever any doubt how low this sleazebag could sink, I think 
> this is ample proof. Periodically this worthless maggot posts various 
> hostile remakarks I have said about him in the past. Now you can see why.
> Any who dare question the maggot's politics gets accused of molesting 
> children.
> If anyone's got legal advice I'd be glad to take it.
> As for you,panker, I hope you die, slowly and in utter agony, rotting 
> away from the inside out.
> It's what you deserve.
> -Jason Kodish



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov  4 09:23:24 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: COURT OF APPEAL DEFENDS SHOOTING CRIMINALS
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:02:25 -0700
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Actually, I support Erwin Simon, and also the ruling of the Chief Justice.
 
Sometimes, even the Courts make sensible rulings, and when she states that
shooting criminals is sometimes permitted, then I must start thinking....
 
Yesterday in the Alberta Court of Appeal,Appeal Court Chief Justice
Catherine Fraser stated:"In certain circumstances, some inherently
unlawful acts must be considered lawful."

The Alberta Court of Appeal ruled that Queens Bench Justice Erik Lefsrud
erred in failing to instruct the jury in 1995, that Erwin Simon's conduct
could be legally acceptable.

This Appeal decision follows three cases heard in Alberta this year, where
victims of criminals had used weapons to shoot the criminals. In all
cases, juries had acquitted the victims who shot the criminals.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov  4 12:37:46 PST 1996
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The only similarity between the radical 'intphase' and myself, is that we
both feel that you, and OyVey are scum,or worse!!!



On 4 Nov 1996, william c anderson wrote:

> intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> : I will contact this acumen person.  The suggestion that he is me is 
> : incorrect.
> 
> Uh-huh.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Nov  5 06:58:27 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: COURT OF APPEAL DEFENDS SHOOTING CRIMINALS
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:37:01 -0700
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Hopefully the Courts in Alberta may even go so far as to ENCOURAGE HONEST
CITIZENS EXECUTINMG CRIMINALS, thereby saving the taxpayers the costs of
incarceration!!!

After all a dead criminal will never re-offend, no broken probation
orders,no expensive appeals either.


On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, David Reilley wrote:

> >From: 
> 
> >Sometimes, even the Courts make sensible rulings, and when she states that
> >shooting criminals is sometimes permitted, then I must start thinking....
> 
> This has never happened before.
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Nov  5 07:11:31 PST 1996
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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 07:07:53 -0700
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What gives you evidence that the pimplyfaced juvenile known as Codfish or
Kaddish, actually has a brain???Are you sure you are not confusing this
leftoid with a normal human being you may have met somewhere???



On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, JMD wrote:

> thrakath@compusmart.ab.ca (Belgarion) wrote:
> 
> 
> Real,real smooth, gravity boy.   [snip]
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Hey, hey! No fair.  Gravity is crucial to Kodfish's well-being.  It's
> his sole connection to reality.  Without gravity his physical self
> would float off to the black hole where his brain resides.
> 
> John D.    
> 
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Nov  5 07:12:15 PST 1996
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Again, the damn JEWS are interfering in the internal affairs of the
sovereign Province of Quebec.

Now, the JEWS want the Lieutenant-Governor of Quebec fired, because in his
youth he supported the admirable economic and employment policies of
Germany in the 1930's!!!

I notice that these same damn JEWS DID NOT criticise that well known
Marxist called Pierre Elliott Trudeau. Could that be because he was being
indoctrinated at Moscow University by the Jewish professors?

I feel that the real Quebecois MUST arise, and finally throw off the yoke
of oppression, whether from the Jewish Congress, the anglos, or whoever.
When Quebec becomes free of Ottawa and Toronto, so then will Alberta also
become free.



On 4 Nov 1996, Paul Rodgers wrote:

> In article <327D9A39.27B3@login.net>, lranjou@login.net says...
> >
> >Source:
> >
> >Revue L'Actualit=E9:
> >
> >http://www.maclean-hunter-quebec.qc.ca/INTRO.html
> >--=20
> >Luc @ Anjou
> >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/lucanjou/homepage.htm
> >Le Nationalisme et le Patriotisme ne sont pas des maladies honteuses !
>=20
> Le m=EAme bouffon qui en plus d'avoir insult=E9 sa propre race, qui nous =
fut IMPOS=C9 par un
> Ottawa arrogant et provocateur, sans tenir compte de l'indignation g=E9n=
=E9rale que=20
> celle-ci succita au Qu=E9bec francais. Cette nomination les f=E9d=E9raste=
s qu=E9b=E9copis, juifs
> inclu, l'applaudirent....
> Mais voila que, dans cas-ci, le Congr=E8s juif (autorit=E9 supr=EAme?) so=
mme Roux de s'expliquer...! L=E0=20
> o=F9 6 millions de Qu=E9b=E9cois francophones ont =E9chou=E9s, une poign=
=E9 de juifs va r=E9ussir. Au=20
> Canada le Congr=E8s juif serait =E0 un =E9chelon plus haut que la couronn=
e, que le parlement, que la=20
> majorit=E9 qu=E9b=E9coise?
>=20
> Ce que l'argent... etchnique peut acheter comme servitude. Peuple =E0 gen=
oux... Ils peuvent
> nous insulter =E0 tour de bras, mais l'inverse...?
>=20
> Paul Rodgers
>=20
>=20
>=20



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Nov  5 07:12:59 PST 1996
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Subject: Damn Canada - Pay HIGH taxes if you wish to live here!!!
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acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
Your statements are completely incorrect, and I am correcting your lies at
the relevant sections.

> > On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Rey Carolino wrote:
acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:

WARNING - before putting up any money to a firm that can not even spell
properly in English, check with Canada Immigration, or better still with
friends or relatives already in Canada!!!

Did you know that new immigrants entering Canada after 1st january 1996
must now pay income tax on their OVERSEAS ASSETS, not just their income,
at rates of around 70%??!!!!

> > > Not true!  You don't pay income taxes on your ASSETS.  You pay income
> > > taxes on the amount of income you make during the year.  And 70% is
> > > not right. Highest individual income tax bracket for income in excess
> > > of $60,000 is taxed at about 50%.

As of 1st January 1996, all immigrants to canada, especially the Chinese
immigrants, will pay Income Taxes on their overseas ASSETS, as declared by
Revenue Canada Minister Jane Stewart. She has held many press conferences
to explain this,which have been published in Canadian newspapers  such as
in the Vancouver Sun, and Canadian Chinese Times.

The 70% income tax rate is the combination of the 50% FEDERAL tax, plus
the appropriate Provincial Income Tax, which combine to equal
approximately 70% income tax - on overseas ASSETS.

Apparently this new tax on the Chinese, similar to the hated "head tax",
is to replace the taxes not paid by the JEW BRONFMAN. Bronfman illegally
moved more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of Canada without paying his
income taxes, so the Canadian Government will now be swindling the Chinese
to make up for the lost taxes from the JEW.

I strongly recommend that you all consider other safe countries, rather
than Canada, where you will surely get swindled.

Have you all forgotten the publicised story about JOE DUTTON? He was in
Hong Kong as the official for the Government of Alberta Canada. he is now
under criminal trial for swindling more than $3 million from investors
>from  Taiwan and Hong Kong. There have been many other similar swindles,
done both by gwaliau and even by Chinese.



From wahrheit@concentric.net Tue Nov  5 17:45:20 PST 1996
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acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
 
The media across Canada seem to be having a feeding frenzy, publicising
the allegations of the World Jewish Congress and Bnai Brith regarding
Mr.Roux, the Lieutenant-Governor of Quebec.
 
It seems that in his youth, while attending some anti-conscription rally
in Quebec, some punks allegedly made some anti-Jewish comments. So what?
 
Even the Jewish Cabinet Minister Herb Gray says, "So what", and he is a
Jew.
 
It seems that the Bnai Brith and World Jewish Congress just want to keep
Canadians boiling about alleged injustices to alleged Jews.
 
Notice that these same JEWISH GROUPS DID NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT
WELL-KNOWN STUDENT OF MARXIST-LENINIST COMMUNISM, Pierre Elliott
Trudeau!!!Could it be because the communist professors at Moscow
University were Jewish, who were instructing Pierre???
 
If M. Roux has done a good job for the normal people of Quebec, then he
is
obviously well regarded in Quebec.
 
Perhaps the Jews want to have another Waldheim type scene?
 
No wonder Raymond Villeneuve keeps getting more support in Quebec,
thanks
to the Jews!!!
 
And, in western canada, the rotten Reformers of Prestone Manning are
LOSING MP's and supporters, because they are but puppets of the Jews.


The media have just announced that M.Roux has submitted his resignation
as Lieutenant Governor of Quebec.

The Jews thin that they have won, but in fact, the anti-Jewish feelings
of more and more normal residents of Quebec will now find outlets for
their anger.

How many more Jewish-owned businesses will now lose even more of their
customers, in retaliation?

How many more normal Quebec residents will agree that perhaps the ideas
and policies of the leader Raymond Villeneuve have merit?

How many more Quebecers will correlate this incident with the BRONFMAN
JEWS illegally removing more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of Quebec,
without paying their income taxes?

I believe that the Jews in Quebec will receive what they have sown, as
happened in Austria,as well as in eastern Europe.


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Subject: WHY JEWS PERSECUTING ROUX?
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:07:26 -0700
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The media across Canada seem to be having a feeding frenzy, publicising
the allegations of the World Jewish Congress and Bnai Brith regarding
Mr.Roux, the Lieutenant-Governor of Quebec.

It seems that in his youth, while attending some anti-conscription rally
in Quebec, some punks allegedly made some anti-Jewish comments. So what?

Even the Jewish Cabinet Minister Herb Gray says, "So what", and he is a
Jew.

It seems that the Bnai Brith and World Jewish Congress just want to keep
Canadians boiling about alleged injustices to alleged Jews.

Notice that these same JEWISH GROUPS DID NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT
WELL-KNOWN STUDENT OF MARXIST-LENINIST COMMUNISM, Pierre Elliott
Trudeau!!!Could it be because the communist professors at Moscow
University were Jewish, who were instructing Pierre???

If M. Roux has done a good job for the normal people of Quebec, then he is
obviously well regarded in Quebec.

Perhaps the Jews want to have another Waldheim type scene?

No wonder raymond Villeneuve keeps getting more support in Quebec, thanks
to the Jews!!!


And, in western canada, the rotten Reformers of Prestone Manning are
LOSING MP's and supporters, because they are but puppets of the Jews.





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Notice how literate, even in English the Jew supporters are? Pas vrai!!!



On 5 Nov 1996, Adam Conway wrote:

> To quote acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca, from their posting on Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:07:26 -0700:
> 
> 	[Yadda... Yadda...]
> 
> Down Sparky!  Down Boy!
> 
> 



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Since Mr. Panker is a highly successful businessman, making lots of money
>from  his hard work, while you are a pimply faced young punk, unemployed
and unemployable according to all records, just who has the brains?

Certainly not the foul-mouthed peice of excrescence now being derided even
by its' former supporters.

Ed, enjoy your hard earned money,and spend it wisely, not wasting it suing
Codfish.



On 6 Nov 1996 jkodish@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> Organization: Edmonton FreeNet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
> Distribution: 
> 
> ve6yj@compusmart.ab.ca wrote:
> 
> : Kodish fancies himself a "master-debater" and yes it's as sick as it sounds.
> 
> You sure have a big mouth, maggot.
> THe real question is whether you have any brains to back that big mouth up?
> 
> --
> -Jason Kodish
> 
> It is a sad day when one who opposes the ever looming power of the State
> is called an anarchist. When it becomes politically incorrect to believe 
> in such basic precepts such as freedom of choice. It is my belief that 
> those who do not defend their rights deserve to lose them...-Me.
> 
>           
> 
> 



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More lies from the Jew who claimed that at 6 years of age, I was with the
Hitler Jugend defending Berlin against the commies!!!



On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Tim Nye wrote:

> In article <327EC6E0.1D6@concentric.net> echte Wahrheit  writes:
> >acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> > 
> [Usual Grosvenor anti-Semitic rant deleted]
> 
> In case anyone is wondering, "echte Wahrheit" (German for 'authentic truth' 
> of all things) and "acumen" are both William Grosvenor.  
> 
> You'd think it would be embarrassing to Grosvenor to find so few bigots in 
> the world as rabid as him that he is forced to resort to holding public 
> conversations with himself.
> 
> >I believe that the Jews in Quebec will receive what they have sown, as
> >happened in Austria,as well as in eastern Europe.
> 
> Ah-ha!  Austria.  So that's where Grosvenor was born.  
> 
> Tim
> 
> [more on Grosvenor at 
> 	http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/grosvenor.william (ftp)
> 	http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/   (www)]
> 
> 
> 



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More lies from the Jew who claimed that at 6 years of age, I was with the
Hitler Jugend defending Berlin against the commies!!!



On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Tim Nye wrote:

> In article <327EC6E0.1D6@concentric.net> echte Wahrheit  writes:
> >acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> > 
> [Usual Grosvenor anti-Semitic rant deleted]
> 
> In case anyone is wondering, "echte Wahrheit" (German for 'authentic truth' 
> of all things) and "acumen" are both William Grosvenor.  
> 
> You'd think it would be embarrassing to Grosvenor to find so few bigots in 
> the world as rabid as him that he is forced to resort to holding public 
> conversations with himself.
> 
> >I believe that the Jews in Quebec will receive what they have sown, as
> >happened in Austria,as well as in eastern Europe.
> 
> Ah-ha!  Austria.  So that's where Grosvenor was born.  
> 
> Tim
> 
> [more on Grosvenor at 
> 	http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/grosvenor.william (ftp)
> 	http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/   (www)]
> 
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov  6 14:54:19 PST 1996
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Subject: Damn Canada - Pay HIGH taxes if you wish to live here!!!
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:58:07 -0700
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On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Brian Blank wrote:
> >acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
Your statements are completely incorrect, and I am correcting your lies at
the relevant sections.

> >> > On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Rey Carolino wrote:
acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:

WARNING - before putting up any money to a firm that can not even spell
properly in English, check with Canada Immigration, or better still with
friends or relatives already in Canada!!!
 
Did you know that new immigrants entering Canada after 1st january 1996
must now pay income tax on their OVERSEAS ASSETS, not just their income,
at rates of around 70%??!!!!

 > Not true!  You don't pay income taxes on your ASSETS.  You pay income
 > taxes on the amount of income you make during the year.  And 70% is
 > not right. Highest individual income tax bracket for income in excess
 > of $60,000 is taxed at about 50%.

As of 1st January 1996, all immigrants to canada, especially the Chinese
immigrants, will pay Income Taxes on their overseas ASSETS, as declared by
Revenue Canada Minister Jane Stewart. She has held many press conferences
to explain this,which have been published in Canadian newspapers  such as
in the Vancouver Sun, and Canadian Chinese Times.

It seems that some of the people complaining about advising Chinese
immigrants, are unable to read English. In fact, I did not start the
stories, since they originally came from residents in Vancouver, who
attended the meeting held by the Finance Minister.

> Show us the articles where Jane Stewart specifically says this. Surely
> that cannot be beyond you. 
> The odd thing is that nobody else on these newsgroups have read these
> articles.

The 70% income tax rate is the combination of the 50% FEDERAL tax, plus
the appropriate Provincial Income Tax, which combine to equal
approximately 70% income tax - on overseas ASSETS.

Apparently this new tax on the Chinese, similar to the hated "head tax",
is to replace the taxes not paid by the JEW BRONFMAN. Bronfman illegally
moved more than 2.2 BILLION dollars out of Canada without paying his
income taxes, so the Canadian Government will now be swindling the Chinese
to make up for the lost taxes from the JEW.

I strongly recommend that you all consider other safe countries, rather
than Canada, where you will surely get swindled.

> Why are you so anti-immigrant? After all you are one yourself. Who
> swindled you?

I have been swindled several times, both by Canadians, and also by the
Governments in Canada.

Have you all forgotten the publicised story about JOE DUTTON? He was in
Hong Kong as the official for the Government of Alberta Canada. he is now
under criminal trial for swindling more than $3 million from investors
>from  Taiwan and Hong Kong. There have been many other similar swindles,
done both by gwaliau and even by Chinese.

> As usual your posts are full of non-sequitors and irrelevances. If an
> individual is under trial, than he is not automatically guilty.

Dutton is most definitely guilty of swindling the Chinese from Hong Kong
and Taiwan. The only point open for discussion by the jury, is how long
will he spend in prison!!!

> Brian Blank



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov  6 14:54:20 PST 1996
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A very sensible choice, which I heartily recommend to anyone with sense.



On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Bobby Tay wrote:

> ***Hmm... still prefer Singapore. :)
> 
> Bob
> E-mail: bob808@pacific.net.sg / bob808@singnet.com.sg

acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
Your statements are completely incorrect, and I am correcting your lies at
the relevant sections.

> > On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Rey Carolino wrote:
acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:

WARNING - before putting up any money to a firm that can not even spell
properly in English, check with Canada Immigration, or better still with
friends or relatives already in Canada!!!

Did you know that new immigrants entering Canada after 1st january 1996
must now pay income tax on their OVERSEAS ASSETS, not just their income,
at rates of around 70%??!!!!



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Thu Nov  7 06:12:35 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: WHY JEWS PERSECUTING ROUX?
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:57:22 -0700
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On Thu, 7 Nov 1996, John Morris wrote:
> In <55r06c$bfn$2@gruvel.une.edu.au>, ibokor@metz.une.edu.au (ibokor)
> >echte Wahrheit (wahrheit@concentric.net) wrote:
> >: acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

The media across Canada seem to be having a feeding frenzy, publicising
the allegations of the World Jewish Congress and Bnai Brith regarding
Mr.Roux, the Lieutenant-Governor of Quebec.

It seems that in his youth, while attending some anti-conscription rally
in Quebec, some punks allegedly made some anti-Jewish comments. So what?

> >According to p. 14 of "The Sydney Morning Herald" of Wednesday, 
> >6th November, 1996
> 
> >"The Queen's representative in Quebec, Governor Jean-Louis Roux,
> >has admitted he wore the Swastika in World War II and took part
> >in anti-Jewish rallies. Mr Roux, 73, told a French-language weekly
> >hehad worn the Nazi cross while he was a student and smashed 
> >windows of businesses with Jewish or foreign-sounding names."

> More to the point, the complaint about Roux was not brought out by
> *any* Jewish organization. That is simply a flat out lie.

Your comment is I agree an absolute lie!!The TV release of the story was
>from  Bnai Brith headquarters, with the Israeli flag, rather than the flag
of Canada prominent in the room.

> Quebec City's only rabbi is reported in today's Edmonton Journal as
> pretty much echoing Mr. Grosvenor/Gruber/acumen/Wahrheit's "so what"
> noting that M. Roux has long since repented of the follies of his
> youth.

Does this mean that the Rabbi agrees with one whom the Zionists and Ken
McVay claim is anti-semitic??Does this mean that the Rabbi, and also Herb
Gray M.P. , who is also Jewish and accepted the apology of M.Roux,is he
also anti-semitic???

> M. Roux admits to participating in an anti-conscription rally in 
> Quebec in 1942 and to drawing a swastika on his clothing in order to
> be provocative. He denies being involved in the breakaway
> demonstration which smashed windows of businesses "with
> Jewish-sounding names."
>  John Morris                               



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Thu Nov  7 08:13:10 PST 1996
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From: 
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Subject: WHY JEWS PERSECUTING ROUX?
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:07:26 -0700
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The media across Canada seem to be having a feeding frenzy, publicising
the allegations of the World Jewish Congress and Bnai Brith regarding
Mr.Roux, the Lieutenant-Governor of Quebec.

It seems that in his youth, while attending some anti-conscription rally
in Quebec, some punks allegedly made some anti-Jewish comments. So what?

Even the Jewish Cabinet Minister Herb Gray says, "So what", and he is a
Jew.

It seems that the Bnai Brith and World Jewish Congress just want to keep
Canadians boiling about alleged injustices to alleged Jews.

Notice that these same JEWISH GROUPS DID NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT
WELL-KNOWN STUDENT OF MARXIST-LENINIST COMMUNISM, Pierre Elliott
Trudeau!!!Could it be because the communist professors at Moscow
University were Jewish, who were instructing Pierre???

If M. Roux has done a good job for the normal people of Quebec, then he is
obviously well regarded in Quebec.

Perhaps the Jews want to have another Waldheim type scene?

No wonder raymond Villeneuve keeps getting more support in Quebec, thanks
to the Jews!!!


And, in western canada, the rotten Reformers of Prestone Manning are
LOSING MP's and supporters, because they are but puppets of the Jews.





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Subject: Re: WHY JEWS PERSECUTING ROUX?
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Notice how literate, even in English the Jew supporters are? Pas vrai!!!



On 5 Nov 1996, Adam Conway wrote:

> To quote acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca, from their posting on Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:07:26 -0700:
> 
> 	[Yadda... Yadda...]
> 
> Down Sparky!  Down Boy!
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Thu Nov  7 08:23:06 PST 1996
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200 what, excremental copies of McVay?? If this were true, why do they not
place messages supporting OyVey in the newsgroups? In fact there seems to
be less than enough for a synagogue,actually supporting the racist
McVay!!!



On 7 Nov 1996 intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> You can get the article on your computer, Scotty.  Let us know what was 
> incorrect.  
> 
> And calling me a coward, oooohhhh such brutality.  200 of you and one of 
> me.  (According to the article)  
> 
> Stop whining and take a little criticism like a man, 
> sorry exaggeration!
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sun Nov 10 12:16:24 PST 1996
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From: 
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Subject: Re: PROPERTY RIGHTS vs. Faggot Rights
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 07:30:15 -0700
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It seems that some supporters, or perhaps they may even be faggots, just
do not like the TRUTH!!!

Faggots and their friends are the major spreaders of AIDS, starting with
the deliberate spread of AIDS by the Canadian faggot with Air Canada. 

This is well detailed in the book "AND THE BAND PLAYED ON".

Were heterosexuals a true carrier and spreader of AIDS, then be sure that
the faggots with AIDS, who are spreading AIDS both directly and through
giving tainted blood to blood centers, would have documented this to the
media.

Since it is false, they can not.

The only good faggot is a cremated one.

Support the policies of sensible governments, such as PRC, Malaysia and
Singapore, regarding how to treat faggots, for the public safety.



On 9 Nov 1996, Doug wrote:

> In article <32819395.1968@planet.eon.net>, Alan Clark
>  wrote:
> 
> > ccomrade@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I have a news-flash for you. Female to male, hetero-transmission of the 
> > virus has not, repeat, not ever been documented in North America. Magic 
> > Johnson is a liar. If hetero-transmission had documented victims, the gay 
> > community would be parading them like they were the messiah! It simply 
> > hasn't happened here - yet.
> 
> Dear Mr. Zundel:
> 
> Thanks for the piece of revisionist history.  I also hear that the spread
> of aids, ebola and the pending catastrophe in Zaire can be blamed on the
> Zionist ambitions.  If you only knew how uninformed you sound.  Try to
> remember that it is best to keep one's mouth shut and thought of a fool
> than to open one's mouth and leave no doubt.  Stop the hate mongering and
> get a life.
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sun Nov 10 12:16:25 PST 1996
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From: 
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Subject: PROPERTY RIGHTS vs. Faggot Rights
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Notice that the maggot living off the stupid public, still can not answer
his own question.

Of course AIDS is spreading, due directly to the faggots in Africa, as in
North America. When the diseased perverts deliberately pass on the disease
to female prostitutes, then the females spread the disease to their
otherwise normal male customers.

Another way that faggots deliberately spread AIDS, as is documented in
both Canada and the USA, is through giving tainted blood to blood
services.



On 10 Nov 1996, Ken McVay wrote:
>   wrote:
> >It seems that some supporters, or perhaps they may even be faggots, just
> >do not like the TRUTH!!!
> >
> >Faggots and their friends are the major spreaders of AIDS, starting with
> >the deliberate spread of AIDS by the Canadian faggot with Air Canada. 
> 
> How then, one might inquire, does Mr. Grosvenor account for
> the incidences of heterosexual AIDS found in African states?



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sun Nov 10 12:51:03 PST 1996
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From: 
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Subject: Re: WHY JEWS PERSECUTING ROUX?
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:13:04 -0700
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Notice how literate, even in English the Jew supporters are? Pas vrai!!!



On 5 Nov 1996, Adam Conway wrote:

> To quote acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca, from their posting on Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:07:26 -0700:
> 
> 	[Yadda... Yadda...]
> 
> Down Sparky!  Down Boy!
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 11 07:10:11 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Belgarion: A study in hatred
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 07:49:46 -0700
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Noticxe, people, that Kaddish, which stands for braindead, just can not
even get his death threats clear.

For him, my curse would be that he die a slow painful death from AIDS from
one of his faggot friends, as well as all the other foul STD's
simultaneously.

This friendly curse is submitted on behalf of Belgarion, who really needs
no assistance since he has already decimated Codfish. As well, on behalf
of all the others who have been vilified by Kaddish, the braindead troll,
for whom one should light a candle today.



On 11 Nov 1996 jkodish@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> ve6yj@compusmart.ab.ca wrote:
> 
> : Kodish; consistent as ever; once an asshole, always an asshole.
> 
> Why don't you just do us all a favour and die you worthless maggot.
> 
> : And Edemonton Freaknet and Netline 2000 would STILL be advised to trace their 
> : lines to watch your IP packets ...
> 
> Why would they want to do that, low life maggot? I have done nothing
> wrong.
> You would be advized to see a doctor, maggot, maybe that hate is eating
> you inside already. May you die screaming in horrible aggony suffering
> until the very end.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 11 07:10:12 PST 1996
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I wonder why Kaddish is not threatening lawsuits regarding articles
suggesting he is sending messages to kids?

It likes to threaten lawsuits against business owners such as the
reputable Ed Panker, but when Earl Blacklock threatens to sue Kaddish, he
is forced to publish an apology.

Perhaps he needs to be sued some more,and that day is fast approaching.
Just ask him about Sherwood Park RCMP visiting his friend????

On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 ve6yj@compusmart.ab.ca wrote:

> In article <565mon$oqg@pervert.net>,
>    jkodish@pervert.net (Asshole Kodish) wrote:
> >Until that day, I will not budge, and you will have lost.
> 
> Kodish; consistent as ever; once an asshole, always an asshole.
> 
> And Edemonton Freaknet and Netline 2000 would STILL be advised to trace their 
> lines to watch your IP packets ...
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov 13 06:27:46 PST 1996
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Could it be that the holohoaxers and their communist fellowtravellers just
do not want the world to know the TRUTH about the group known for eons as
the Christkillers?

That the JEWS were responsible for the murder of Christ is well
documented.They even forced the Romans to help.

That the JEWs were responsible for all the genocides, such as of the
Ukraine, while they ran communism is well documented.

That the JEWISH STERN GANG irresponsibly murdered British and civilians in
Palestine is well documented. The Stern Gang, while in Germany, even
offered to ally themselves with Hitler, as documented!!!

The Zionists continue to murder, even killing UN troops at the Qana
refugee camp.

Why is it that the JEWS do not want the world to know, and to consider
their deeds?

People such as Giwer, Huber, and Ernst Zundel are to be complimented for
providing the truth to those who will listen and read.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Thu Nov 14 08:00:49 PST 1996
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From: 
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Subject: GALGANOV UNDER INVESTIGATION
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Howard Galganov an alleged Jewish businessman from Montreal is now under
investigation by both the Alberta securities Commission, and the Quebec
Securities Commission.

According to a feature article on page 3 of the Edmonton Sun,Tuesday
November 12 1996,Galganov is inviting stupid Canadians to buy shares in
his clothing store,at $10 a share.

On CHED radio and QR radio, both in Alberta, Galganov again asked
Albertans to buy shares in his business at $10 a share.

Since neither Galaganov nor his business have bothered to be approved by
the Securities Commissions of Alberta or Quebec, he is being investigated
for illegally selling securities, in both provinces.

Hopefully the two governments will have Galganov prosecuted to the fullest
extent of the laws in both provinces.

This is the same Galganov, who with the assistance of the Canadian Jewish
Congress went to New York. He hoped to have prominent financiers there
support him in his anti-Quebec campaign.

Instead, he was laughed out of New York, and no one wanted to meet with
him, not even Jewish bankers!!!



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Thu Nov 14 08:17:52 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: GALGANOV "Street fight for Canada"
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:14:30 -0700
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Isn't this the same Galganov who had the support of the Canadian Jewish
Congress when he visited New York??

Isn't this the same Galaganov who got laughed out of New York, when no one
cared to listen to him and his Jewish supporters?

Isn't this the same Galaganov, with his Jew supporters used by raymond
Villeneuve and others as the despicable type of "ethnics", like the
Bronfmans, who are destroying the economy of Quebec??



On 12 Nov 1996, Paul Rodgers wrote:
> Street fight for Canada.
>=20
> " There is a street fight for Canada's life and people out here don't eve=
n know it's
> going on" said the 46-year-old Montreal native, drumming up support in Ed=
monton
> yesterday. " Blood is going to fall in the streets until the separatists =
are dead. It's
> winner tale all." (...)
>=20
> http://www.canoe.ca/EdmontonNews/03_n2.html
>   "         "          "       /CalgaryNews/14_n1.html
>=20
> Alors que l'Equality Party applaudit Diane Francis, et fait le proc=E8s p=
ost-mortem de Lionel=20
> Groulx. Le Congres Juifs pousse l'humiliation du Lieutemant Gouverneur du=
 Qu=E9bec au=20
> ridicule. Howard Galganov fait du recrutement dans l'Ouest du Canada. Ce =
faisant, ce gros
> porc reconna=EEt-il qu'il est percu, dans sa propre communaut=E9, comme u=
ne nullit=E9? Sa seul
> chance demeure de convaincre les red necks de l'Ouest de s'impliquer dans=
 une querre
> civile contre le Qu=E9bec. Cette proposition leurs =E9tant pr=E9sent=E9e =
le jour du Souvenir...!
>=20
> Howard Galganov le veut son H=E9bron north-am=E9ricain.
> Paul Rodgers



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Thu Nov 14 08:17:53 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: GALGANOV "Street fight for Canada"
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:01:18 -0700
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I agree with you completely.

The Jew Galganov was here in Alberta, on Jewish radio programs, trying to
incite westerners against Quebecers.

In fact, what he is doing may in fact be illegal, since he is asking
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO BUY SHARES IN HIS PRIVATE CORPORATION. This seems
to contravene the rules and regulations of the Quebec Securities
Commission.The Edmonton Sun story reported on his trying to sell shares to
suckers in Alberta.



On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Benoit Caron wrote:

> acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

Isn't this the same Galganov who had the support of the Canadian Jewish
Congress when he visited New York??

Isn't this the same Galaganov who got laughed out of New York, when no one
cared to listen to him and his Jewish supporters?

Isn't this the same Galaganov, with his Jew supporters used by raymond
Villeneuve and others as the despicable type of "ethnics", like the
Bronfmans, who are destroying the economy of Quebec??

> That is the one all right.  
> But tell me Mr. Grosvenor, what do you intend to do about it.  Keep your 
> odious provocations for yourself, we are trying  to discuss in a civilized
> way out here in Quebec.  The last thing we wish, is  to demonstrate any 
> type of concern for this ultra-racist sucker Galganov.
> 
> If he wants to raid the whole world telling francophones are nazis, that's
> his business.  If he hates living with them, why don't he just get the fuck
> out of Quebec!  You like francophones,  you stay, you don't like them, then
> get the fuck out! That's all.  If I don't like something, I don't keep it. 
> If I don't  like a place, I don't go there. If I  don't like some people,
> I try to avoid them.  Why the fuck can't that freak do the same? Cause he's
> a full of shit  frustrated asshole. Not to mention that he looks like a mule!
> Benoit Caron
> Dept. of Finance, Universite du Quebec a Montreal
> Dept. of Applied Economics, Hautes Etudes Commerciales de Montreal



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Notice that this Jewish person is not even in Quebec, but is sending from
anglo Ontario!!!

Could it be that he couldn't find enough stupid Quebecers to pay for
whatever he does??



On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Andrew Bernstein wrote:
>  wrote:
> 
> >Isn't this the same Galganov who had the support of the Canadian Jewish
> >Congress when he visited New York??
> 
>    He NEVER had the support of the CJC. The head of the Bloc Quebecois was
> stupid enough to ask the CJC to "distance" themselves from Galganov before
> he visited New York. It's kind of like asking the Pope to distance himself
> from Jacques Parizeau just because Parizeau is Catholic.
> 
> >Isn't this the same Galaganov, with his Jew supporters used by raymond
> >Villeneuve and others as the despicable type of "ethnics", like the
> >Bronfmans, who are destroying the economy of Quebec??
> 
>    You know, every time I say anything on the internet about how Quebec
> nationalism is an inherently racist ideology, which only plays lip service
> to multiculturalism when it is convenient for them, I get flamed.
> Curiously, a lot of the flamers use racial slurrs.
> * Andrew Bernstein      * "Fair is foul      *
> * bernst2@uwindsor.ca   *  Foul is fair      *
> * Windsor, Ont.         *  Hover through fog *



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Thu Nov 14 08:19:08 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: No Bankruptcy On Student Loans?
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 07:29:07 -0700
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Education is NOT a right, but a privilege.

Here in Alberta, students pay between 11 to 18% only of the costs of their
so-called education.

The fact that so many of them are unemployable merely proves that whatever
they studied is actually worthless in the real world of employment!!!

If students actually had to pay ALL the costs of their education, perhaps
then they would choose courses that actually lead to jobs.If those at NAIT
and SAIT are able to do this, why not those retarded students at the
universities?Could it be that too many of THESE are politically correct,
such as scrags, natives,coloured,and so forth, who are below the normal
standards of education???

As for the federal government barring student loans from being wiped out
by bankruptcy, one must remember that these student loans ARE TAXPAYER
MONEY.They are owed to all taxpayers, and if the student will not repay
them, then he is getting an unfair free gift.

If students won't pay back the student loans, then force them into
WORKFARE, such as sweeping the streets by hand, until the whole
balance,plus interest is worked off.

Many westerners are fed up with these parasites.

For a western perspective on rights and obligations, visit the Website at:

	http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/acumen/acumen1.html





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Subject: Re: GALGANOV "Street fight for Canada"
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 07:20:21 -0700
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If Galganov is a Jew,and uses the Canadian Jewish Congress to tout for his
views and assist him, why should the true Quebecois not revile this attack
on their culture?

Quite apart from the fact that Galganov seems to be breaking the laws of
Quebec and Alberta in selling shares of his business without legal
authority from the Quebec Securities Commission, or Alberta Securities
Commission.



On 13 Nov 1996 jmosevich@aol.com wrote:

> This thread is a perfect example of the hypocracy of Canadians who
> constatntly tout thier superiority by being so tolerant. Yet the
> anti-semitism shine through loud and clear.  What a sorry country.....
> 
> 



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Subject: Re: No Bankruptcy On Student Loans?
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 08:15:13 -0700
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If students had to pay ALL the costs of their so-called education, as
professional accountants must, then perhaps they would select courses for
which there are jobs!!!

If students had to pay ALL their costs, then perhaps they would not take
instruction from uselss,unemployable snivel servant type cretins with
tenure, who themselves can not find jobs in the real world.

Just because the deadwood in the ivory towers get executive salaries for
producing nothing is no reason for them to continue to be on the public
payroll, quite apart from all the feminazis and other politically correct
useless snivel servants now being hired.



On Thu, 14 Nov 1996 moonlite@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Emil LeBlanc, B.Sc., Dip.Ed., MSA wrote:
> 
> > My only comment to this is that any one that is dodging their student 
> > loan(s) is a lazy free loader ! 

> 	No, they're simply not doing as well as they thought they would.
>  
> If your degree is worthless it is 
> > because you and you alone have made it that way ! 
> A degree's only as good as the person who knows what to do with it.
> 
> > I am sick and tired of whining, lazy, student loan bums ! I think 
> > student loans should be put out of existance...



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Thu Nov 14 08:30:38 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: GALGANOV "Street fight for Canada"
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If Galganov is a Jew,and uses the Canadian Jewish Congress to tout for his
views and assist him, why should the true Quebecois not revile this attack
on their culture?

Quite apart from the fact that Galganov seems to be breaking the laws of
Quebec and Alberta in selling shares of his business without legal
authority from the Quebec Securities Commission, or Alberta Securities
Commission.



On 13 Nov 1996 jmosevich@aol.com wrote:

> This thread is a perfect example of the hypocracy of Canadians who
> constatntly tout thier superiority by being so tolerant. Yet the
> anti-semitism shine through loud and clear.  What a sorry country.....
> 
> 



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For the information of all the Jewish cretins out there who are learning
to read, just find a copy of the Edmonton Sun, page 3, on Tuesday November
12 1996.



On 14 Nov 1996, Joel Rosenberg wrote:
>  writes:
> 
> > Howard Galganov an alleged Jewish businessman from Montreal is now under
> 
> And who's doing all this alleging?  Inquiring minds want to know.  



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Fri Nov 15 06:32:21 PST 1996
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Subject: GALGANOV WANTS "BLOOD IN THE STREETS"
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The Edmonton Sun newspaper, in a headline story on page 3, Tuesday 12
November 1996, when interviewing the Jewish clothing store owner from
Montreal, Howard Galganov, quoted Galganov:"Blood is going to fall in the
streets until the separatists are dead."

This is the same Galganov who is now under investigation by both the
Alberta Securities Commission, and the Quebec securities Commission. He is
being investigated in connection with illegally selling shares of his
business, without being registered or licenced to sell securities.

This is the same Galganov who went to New York earlier this year with the
assistance of the Canadian Jewish Congress.He thought that the New York
financiers would be interested in hearing his ranting and raving. Instead,
they laughed him out of town, and in fact NO ONE wanted to even be seen
with him!!!

It seems that Galganov is trying to DELIBERATELY incite a fight between
the honest residents of Quebec, and his Jewish minority, just for
publicity.This is basically terrorist tactics.

Hopefully, the governments of Alberta and Quebec will prosecute Galganov
for his illegal activities, and if he goes to prison for inciting hatred,
perhaps in Quebec, then les Quebecois will be able to teach him the error
of his ways.

In western canada, many of us support the sovereigntists, since like
Quebec, we also want to be freed from the extortion of Ottawa and
Toronto!!!




From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Fri Nov 15 08:00:18 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: GALGANOV "Street fight for Canada"
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:32:56 -0700
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Are you a paranoid JEW, Hauer, that you do not want to answer any of the
relevant points in the original message?

Are you resident in Quebec, perhaps, that you do not want to answer
questions from normal Quebec residents?

I am answering to some of the lies you published. Were you here, you would
be facing a massive lawsuit, liar!!!


On 14 Nov 1996, Gil Hauer - Senior Consultant wrote:

> 
> Isn't this the same William Grosvenor (AKA Acumen) who was convicted
> of attempted extortion?

There is absolutely no record of such, liar!!

> 
> Isn't this the same William Grosvenor (AKA Acumen) who is prohibited
> by law from engaging in legal actions with permission of the courts?


There is absolutely no record of such a prohibition in the Province of
Alberta, liar!!!
> 
> Isn't this the same William Grosvenor (AKA Acumen) who has been
> fined for assaulting a security guard?
> 
> Isn't this the same William Grosvenor (AKA Acumen) who was slapped
> with a libel suit?


Yes, and who countersued the same day for $50,000,000.00 as a result of
which the Jewish Ghermezians refused to proceed further in the Courts!!!
> 
> Isn't this the same William Grosvenor (AKA Acumen) who has been
> characterized as a "roving fruitcake" by FORBES Magazine (Sept. 4
> 1989)?
> 
> Isn't this the same William Grosvenor (AKA Acumen) who has been
> diagnosed with a paranoid disorder?



Definitely not, fruitcake Hauer!!!> 
> Isn't this the same William Grosvenor (AKA Acumen) who is a convicted
> criminal?
> 

Sorry, but there is no record supporting your lies!!!
> Isn't this the same William Grosvenor (AKA Acumen) who is homophobic?
> 
I HATE all faggopts, and consider them fit solely for instant cremation!!!
> Isn't this the same William Grosvenor (AKA Acumen) who hussles for
> women on the Internet?
> 
>  writes:

Isn't this the same Galganov who had the support of the Canadian Jewish
Congress when he visited New York??

Isn't this the same Galaganov who got laughed out of New York, when no one
cared to listen to him and his Jewish supporters?

Isn't this the same Galaganov, with his Jew supporters used by raymond
Villeneuve and others as the despicable type of "ethnics", like the
Bronfmans, who are destroying the economy of Quebec??

In fact, this is the same Galganov, now the subject of investigations in
both Alberta and Quebec, by the respective Securities Commissions. he is
expected to be charged with illegally selling securities, in connection
with his campaign, selling shares in his used clothing business in
Montreal to gullible members of the public for $10 a share.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Fri Nov 15 08:00:21 PST 1996
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For your information, it is Howard galganov, who in all his interviews
with the media in Alberta, who has stressed that he is a Jewish-canadian
businessman!!!See page 3 of the Edmonton Sun story, 12 November 1996,for
example.



On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Bernstein  Andrew K wrote:
> dOn Thu, 14 Nov 1996 acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

Notice that this Jewish person is not even in Quebec, but is sending from
anglo Ontario!!!

> 	First of all, I am from Montreal. I am living in Windsor for a year 

I was not criticisng you for living in Ontario, I was criticising you for
supporting Galganov,another Jew,just because you are both Jews??

> 	Second of all, yes, I am Jewish. But what the hell does that have to 
> do with anything? Why is it so important to you? Hell, why is it so 
> important to anyone whether or not Galganov is Jewish, Hindu, Christian, 
> or a worshiper of Babylonian gods?
> 	It is this kind of action, pointing one's finger and saying "Jew" 
> that has given Quebec nationalists the image of being antisemites and 
> racists.

It is Galganov who throughout his campaign to part gullible Albertans from
their money, who has continually stressed that he was an anglo JEW.

> > Could it be that he couldn't find enough stupid Quebecers to pay for
> > whatever he does??

> 	Funny you should mention this. The Quebec government recently cut 
> off student loans to those who study in English universities outside 
> Quebec (unless it is in a program which does not exist in the province). 

> 	You still haven't addressed the main point of my post. That you 
> deliberately lied about Galganov and the Quebec Jewish community.

What is the lie, when Galganov himself has constantly reminded everyone
that he is a JEW, and has the support of the Canadian Jewish Congress,such
as when he visited New York City with CJC assistance???



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Fri Nov 15 08:00:23 PST 1996
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As far as I am concerned, you still lie,like a rug, but what can one
expect from a stupid student trying to stay in Prof. Dilts's classes at U
of Waterloo.

Corrections are inserted where appropriate, for those interested in the
B.S. from a stupid student,living off the taxpayers.



On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Tim Nye wrote:

> GROSVENOR) writes:
> >If students had to pay ALL the costs of their so-called education, as
> >professional accountants must, then perhaps they would select courses for
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> But all the CA programs in Canada are at (subsidized) public universities... 

Professional accountants may take their courses at
colleges,universities,provincial correspondence courses,or directly from
the professional associations.

This applies to all 4 approved designations, whether CA,RPA,CMA, or CGA.

Students taking the approved programs pay 100% of the costs,which are
generally about double the costs,and sometimes more, than do the
taxpayer-subsidised students at university!!!
> 
> Tim



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If statscan actually released the TRUE figures for deaths of faggots from
AIDS, the number is so small, that all the faggots and their lovers would
no longer be able to swindle the public for funds!!!

Mind you, the only good faggot, is a dead one, because then it no longer
presents a health risk for normal people.



On 15 Nov 1996, bochum26 wrote:
> ve6yj@compusmart.ab.ca wrote in article
> <56e783$j30_001@compusmart.ab.ca>...
> > In article <56eb1m$12he@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>,
> >    siller@freaknet.calgary.ab.ca (Paul Siller) wrote:
> > >Oddly enough Presently, 50% of women with HIV received it from hetero
> > >sex.
> > 
> > Finish the sentence .... after their stud-muffins came from sharing
> needles 
> > and ...... hold on for it ...
> > 
> > cha C H I N G ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
> > 
> > .. butt-holin' other guys ....
> 
> Amazing how the homosexual lobby loves to keep perpetuating this myth. 
> They really show their true colour - lack of integrity when it comes to the
> aids issue.  They sure hesitate to release Canadian aids records don't
> they?
> 
> I guess the death of homosexual men doesn't seem to weigh very heavy on
> their souless minds..



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And it directly because of some JEWS, like Galganov, and the Bronfmans,
that more people in Quebec are now considering supporting Raymond
Villeneuve. Villeneuve and his supporters have always felt that the JEWS
in Quebec were not interested in supporting the interests of the majority
of Quebec residents.



On 15 Nov 1996, Paul Rodgers wrote:

> 
> Quebecers outraged by predictions of violence.
> 
> http://www.canoe.ca/EdmontonNews/30_n1.html
> 
> " It is a deplorable comment" said Dermond Travis of Forum Quebec
> 
> 
> 



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You still did not answer the real question. Do you JOOS only want to
decimate the economy of Quebec, if necessary by starting a civil war, as
stated by Galganov,the JEW??



On 15 Nov 1996, Joel Rosenberg wrote:

>  writes:
> 
> > 
> > Sorry to disappoint all you JOOS out there, but I do not own the
> > newspapers such as the Edmonton Sun and Edmonton Journal, 
> 
> For some reason the idea that these newspapers aren't owned by a
> judgment-proof paranoid such as yourself isn't disappointing at all.
> Matter of fact, it's downright heartwarming.
> 
> Posted and emailed
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> http://www.winternet.com/~joelr | http://www.winternet.com/~joelr/jrbooks.html
> ...and for one last bit of geekitry, to receive the latest version of my FAQ, 
> send me a message with the phrase "your FAQ" anywhere in the Subject: line.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 



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Add also we want to be free of Jewish control.



On 15 Nov 1996, Catalan wrote:

> >In western canada, many of us support the sovereigntists, since like
> >Quebec, we also want to be freed from the extortion of Ottawa and
> >Toronto!!!
> >
> >
> 
> many?
> 
> Try... a tiny ignorant minority of losers.
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sat Nov 16 06:57:57 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: GALGANOV WANTS "BLOOD IN THE STREETS"
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:24:43 -0700
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Sorry to disappoint all you JOOS out there, but I do not own the
newspapers such as the Edmonton Sun and Edmonton Journal, which have been
interviewing the JEW Howard Galganov, and accurately reporting his
ravings.

It seems that the normal residents of Quebec are getting annoyed with
reports about JEWS such as Galganov and Bronfman, who do not act for the
best interests of the majority of residents of Quebec.



On Fri, 15 Nov 1996, John Morris wrote:

> In <56gumn$60i@news.istar.ca>, dcunill@magi.com (Catalan) wrote:
> 
> >>In western canada, many of us support the sovereigntists, since like
> >>Quebec, we also want to be freed from the extortion of Ottawa and
> >>Toronto!!!



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Nov 19 06:43:09 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: big brother mcvay
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 09:50:08 -0700
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It seems that OyVey is in hiding in some bunker,somewhere.

When Ernst Zundel visited Nanaimo this past week, to meet man to man with
McVay, with witnesses present, for an actual discussion between two
leaders, McVay was nowhere to be found.

Further the address now used by OyVey is but a P.O. box.

In September, one of the holohoax sycophants, Danny Mittelman admitted
that NIZKOR is actually a front for another group, which he identified as:
	Congregation Emmanu-El
	1641 Blanshard St.
	Victoria,BC V8W 2J3

Perhaps REVENUE CANADA should be investigating THIS group, also for
improper giving of false charitable donation receipts???



On 17 Nov 1996 intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> KEN MCVAY - A PROFILE

> Information provided by the Edmonton Journal (a supporter)

> He appears as an scruffy aging hippy.  At 55 he still can't manage a 
> decent haircut.  The pony tail is just plain ugly.
> He served as a marine - they couldn't stand him.
> He served as a policeman - they couldn't stand him.
> He left the United States - they couldn't stand him.
> He entered Canada -  We will take anything won't we?
> We accept criminals, aids carriers and any other garbage.

> His computer consulting business failed.  While unemployed he then 
> discovered the wonders of fighting what he thinks is racism.  He is 
> allegedly is employed by something called Nizkor (Hebrew for We 
> Remember).  This group is largely funded by Jewish groups.  So it seems
> he "works" for a people that believe they are the chosen people -- and 
> then he has the gall to call many detractors racists.

> He has a Stanford University computer program that allows him to scour 
> the newsgroups for nasty messages.  So playing God and doing his big 
> brother act (We are watching you) for 16 hours a day, he gets to play!  
> The rest of us have to have real jobs to feed our families.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Nov 19 06:43:10 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: list of jewish powerlords
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Were you jealous because your name is not on the list?



On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Alan Belkin wrote:

> ourhero@ftcnet.com wrote:
> > 
> > taken from the #1 web page
> > http://www.ftcnet.com/~ourhero
> > 
> > 8/30/96
> > 
> > the 1st have is a list of media magnates the second list is a list of
> > wall st
> > magnates . . . of course this list is purely kosher..
> 
> [snip]
> 
> Why don't you bigots crawl back under the rock you came from?
> 
> 



From wahrheit@concentric.net Tue Nov 19 06:47:39 PST 1996
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From: echte Wahrheit 
Newsgroups: qc.general,mtl.general,alt.revisionism
Subject: DO  JEWS  RUN/CONTROL   QUEBEC?
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 11:32:28 +0700
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Over the past few months, residents of Quebec must be wondering whether
the JEWS RUN/CONTROL the Province of Quebec.

First, there was the expose that the Jew Bronfman had illegally moved
more than 2.2 BILLION from Quebec, without paying the Income Taxes
thereon. This naturally resulted in an increase in unemployment in
Quebec.

Secondly, there was the blessing by the Jewish Bnai Brith of the Reform
Party and Presto Manning. Manning has always been against the residents
of Quebec.

Third was the televised gloating, under the flag of Israel, of the
Canadian Jewish Congress, when they arranged for the Quebec
Lieutenant-General to resign. How can supporters of a foreign power
force the Quebecers to renounce a well-regarded official??

Fourth is the national hate campaign of the Jew,Howard galganov. he is
the one who wants "BLOOD IN THE STREETS". Mind you, he does not mind
illegally requesting stupid westerners to finance his ravings.


Fifth is to remind you of the BQ's comments last year at the time of the
referendum. Who can forget all those foreigners airlifted into Montreal
to sway the opinions of the local residents. Who can forget the comments
about "ethnics and monied interests"?

And, don't forget the "kosher tax" on many familiar food and non-food
products. You are paying a tax, just to line the pockets of some rabbis
and jewish organisations, without having any choice.

Residents of Quebec, how much more interference from Jews will you
accept, before deciding that Raymond Villeneuve, and the PQ are correct.

I suggest that you should openly discuss the above points. Discuss them
with your pretre, your imam, or even among each other.


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From: echte Wahrheit 
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Over the past few months, residents of Quebec must be wondering whether
the JEWS RUN/CONTROL the Province of Quebec.
 
First, there was the expose that the Jew Bronfman had illegally moved
more than 2.2 BILLION from Quebec, without paying the Income Taxes
thereon. This naturally resulted in an increase in unemployment in
Quebec.
 
Secondly, there was the blessing by the Jewish Bnai Brith of the Reform
Party and Presto Manning. Manning has always been against the residents
of Quebec.
 
Third was the televised gloating, under the flag of Israel, of the
Canadian Jewish Congress, when they arranged for the Quebec
Lieutenant-General M. Roux to resign. How can supporters of a foreign
power
force the Quebecers to renounce a well-regarded official??
 
Fourth is the national hate campaign of the Jew,Howard galganov. he is
the one who wants "BLOOD IN THE STREETS". Mind you, he does not mind
illegally requesting stupid westerners to finance his ravings.
 
Fifth is to remind you of the BQ's comments last year at the time of the
referendum. Who can forget all those foreigners airlifted into Montreal
to sway the opinions of the local residents. Who can forget the comments
about "ethnics and monied interests"?
 
And, don't forget the "kosher tax" on many familiar food and non-food
products. You are paying a tax, just to line the pockets of some rabbis
and jewish organisations, without having any choice.

Why should the damned Jews be exempt from the legal label laws of the
sovereign Province of Quebec? Why should they not have to obey the laws
for their imported foods, the way all other normal residents of Quebec
must?
 
Residents of Quebec, how much more interference from Jews will you
accept, before deciding that Raymond Villeneuve, and the PQ are correct.
 
I suggest that you should openly discuss the above points. Discuss them
with your pretre, your imam, or even among each other.


From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Nov 19 08:38:14 PST 1996
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If intphase is making honest,valid points, why would you be criticising
what for him is important?

Could it be that you support only the holohoax version of history, and
perhaps the oppressionist imperialist policies of your masters?



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov 20 06:01:52 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: DO  JEWS  RUN/CONTROL   QUEBEC?
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 1996 15:49:43 -0700
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You should get a copy of the news videotape which was broadcast in
Alberta.

It clearly showed the Jewish Congress creatures sitting at a table, with
the flag of ISRAEL, not the Canadain flag, while they commented on the
alleged nazi activities of the lieutenant-general of Quebec!!!


The damn Christ-killers do not want the public to be reminded of all that
they have done for the past 2000 years, and now they arrange for a good
man to lose his job, for a childhood action.

By the time all the Quebecers get REALLY angry at the damn jews, I would
not want to be a jew in Quebec. Their time will be soon, thanks to leaders
such as Villeneuve, Bouchard, Parizeau and their many supporters!!!!



On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Bernie Farber wrote:

>  wrote:
> >Bernie, on TV was shown the CJC minions, under the Jewish flag of Israel,
> >requesting the resignation of M.Roux!!!!
> >
> >I am sure that you can also get a copy of the videotape news report, so
> >that you can see what your jewish brethren say!!!
> 
> Bernie Farber responds:
> You are a pathological LIAR. I have the tape! CJC NEVER asked for
> Roux's resignation.
> For all those uninitiated out there, here is a wonderful example of exactly
> how the process of Holocaust denial actually works. Tell a whopper of
> a lie, claim to have proof (which ofcourse is also a lie) and pray that the
> gullible are deceived.
> 
> Thankfully, most Canadians can see right through the, "acumens, Grosvenors
> and Warheits" of the world for the pathetic liars they are. Get a life boys!
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Subject: Re: DO  JEWS  RUN/CONTROL   QUEBEC?
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 12:35:08 -0700
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Bernie, on TV was shown the CJC minions, under the Jewish flag of Israel,
requesting the resignation of M.Roux!!!!

I am sure that you can also get a copy of the videotape news report, so
that you can see what your jewish brethren say!!!



On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Bernie Farber wrote:

> echte Wahrheit  wrote:
> >Over the past few months, residents of Quebec must be wondering whether
> >the JEWS RUN/CONTROL the Province of Quebec.
> 
> >
> >Third was the televised gloating, under the flag of Israel, of the
> >Canadian Jewish Congress, when they arranged for the Quebec
> >Lieutenant-General to resign. How can supporters of a foreign power
> >force the Quebecers to renounce a well-regarded official??
> >
> Bernie Farber responds:
> 
> Its amazing (though not surprising) that "Wahrheit" continues to perpetrate
> this blatant lie. Anyone familiar with a newspaper in Canada ( I suppose this
> would leave Waherhiet out) will know that to the contrary CJC had NEVER
> asked for Roux's resignation. It was quite satisfied with an explanation and
> apology. Warheit, the antisemite lies; but what else is new?
> 
> 



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Subject: Re: GALGANOV "Street fight for Canada"
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:01:18 -0700
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Reposting article removed by rogue canceller.  See news.admin.net-abuse.announce
for further information.

I agree with you completely.

The Jew Galganov was here in Alberta, on Jewish radio programs, trying to
incite westerners against Quebecers.

In fact, what he is doing may in fact be illegal, since he is asking
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO BUY SHARES IN HIS PRIVATE CORPORATION. This seems
to contravene the rules and regulations of the Quebec Securities
Commission.The Edmonton Sun story reported on his trying to sell shares to
suckers in Alberta.



On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Benoit Caron wrote:

> acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

Isn't this the same Galganov who had the support of the Canadian Jewish
Congress when he visited New York??

Isn't this the same Galaganov who got laughed out of New York, when no one
cared to listen to him and his Jewish supporters?

Isn't this the same Galaganov, with his Jew supporters used by raymond
Villeneuve and others as the despicable type of "ethnics", like the
Bronfmans, who are destroying the economy of Quebec??

> That is the one all right.  
> But tell me Mr. Grosvenor, what do you intend to do about it.  Keep your 
> odious provocations for yourself, we are trying  to discuss in a civilized
> way out here in Quebec.  The last thing we wish, is  to demonstrate any 
> type of concern for this ultra-racist sucker Galganov.
> 
> If he wants to raid the whole world telling francophones are nazis, that's
> his business.  If he hates living with them, why don't he just get the fuck
> out of Quebec!  You like francophones,  you stay, you don't like them, then
> get the fuck out! That's all.  If I don't like something, I don't keep it. 
> If I don't  like a place, I don't go there. If I  don't like some people,
> I try to avoid them.  Why the fuck can't that freak do the same? Cause he's
> a full of shit  frustrated asshole. Not to mention that he looks like a mule!
> Benoit Caron
> Dept. of Finance, Universite du Quebec a Montreal
> Dept. of Applied Economics, Hautes Etudes Commerciales de Montreal



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Care to explain how one is a racist, when explaining the provocations of
the JEW Galganov?Since when was a Jew a race???



On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, PK wrote:
>  wrote:

Why is it that JEWS seem to have only the destruction of Quebec in mind?
 
First, there was the illegal removal of 2.2 BILLION dollars from Quebec by
the Jew Bronfman.
 
Much of the resulting unemployment in Quebec is of course directly traced
to the removal of this astronomical amount of money. Bronfman did not even
pay his Income Taxes on the 2.2 billion removed from Quebec!!!
 
Now there is the ranting of another Jew,Galganov, who can't even get
fellow Jews in New York interested in his garbage about his version of
Quebec.

> >On 15 Nov 1996, Paul Rodgers wrote:
> >> In article <56htgt$o0t@tandem.CAM.ORG>, kquinn@cam.org says...
> >> >In article <328B38E0.701C@total.net>, Benoit Caron  wrote:

> >> >>" Blood is going to fall in the streets until the separatists 
> >> >>are dead. It's winner take all." (...)

> >> >>He really is building up the violence between the two groups.
> >> >>This moron wants me dead? Try me moron! Hope you are good....
> >> >>The only blood he ever will draw is in his secret dreams of
> >> >>dropping an A-bomb on Quebec city.

> >> Madame Louise Beaudoin was democratically elected. Galganov tried twice and failed...
> >> at the municipal level. The very people who can claim to know him best, rejected him.
> >> Not a single Quebec politician was elected to crawl in front of the idiotic bully. He is on
> >> his own. He is a one-man-army. Wish him luck.

> Its too bad that racists like you are allowed on the net.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov 20 07:20:41 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: GALGANOV "Street fight for Canada"
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 08:21:00 -0700
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Glad to see that more and more normal residents of Quebec are finally
starting to realise that the JEWS seem to be deliberately creating the
problems for Quebec.

Dufour carefully points out a few of the situations.

Let the rest of the country know the truth, about what the JEWS in Quebec
are doing.



On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Marc Dufour wrote:
> Bernstein  Andrew K  wrote:

> >	Second of all, yes, I am Jewish. But what the hell does that have to 
> >do with anything? Why is it so important to you? Hell, why is it so 
> >important to anyone whether or not Galganov is Jewish, Hindu, Christian, 
> >or a worshiper of Babylonian gods?

> By some curious reason unknown to me, it seems that the most vocal and
> flamboyant opposition to french nationalism come from people that are
> majoritarly jewish. So it is plausible that some people could
> conceivable correlate jewness and anti-nationalism...

> >	It is this kind of action, pointing one's finger and saying "Jew" 
> >that has given Quebec nationalists the image of being antisemites and 
> >racists.

> .. only to those who benefit from denigrating nationalists.

> >> Could it be that he couldn't find enough stupid Quebecers to pay for
> >> whatever he does??

> >	Funny you should mention this. The Quebec government recently cut 
> >off student loans to those who study in English universities outside 
> >Quebec (unless it is in a program which does not exist in the province). 

> A truly sensible move. If you can study at home, why should the
> government pay when you study abroad??? In a business, this is called
> "sound economic policy". But when the government does it, freeloaders
> are usually the first to bitch about it. 

> Now, tell us, mister virtue, why won't you accept to study in your
> hometown, which offer you four (4) universities of high standing???



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov 20 07:20:42 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: "Street fight for Canada" by Jew Galganov.
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:38:46 -0700
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To paraphrase leaders in the 1930's, the war you mention, will be a JEWISH
WAR.

Are you prepared to die, for the benfit of people such as Bronfman, who
has already moved most of his BILLIONS out of Canada, or will you die for
Galganov, a Jew who seems to be desperately soliciting funds illegally
>from  Albertans??

Why would you want to die, for the Jews, if Quebec and the majority of
its' normal citizens wish to separate?

Why should they not be allowed to do, what the federal government already
allows the indians and eskimos to do???

In fact,many residents of western Canada would support the separation of
Quebec. After Quebec leaves, so can Alberta and other western provinces.

So, who wants to bar Quebec leaving? Could it be the Jewish monied
interests, or/and the p[arasites of Ottawa and Ontario???


Support Raymond Villeneuve and the Quebecers!!!!



On 16 Nov 1996, Ron Webb wrote:

> I agree that there will be a "Street fight for Canada". It could end up
> being the only logical choice if Canada is to exist at all after a
> unilateral pull-out by Quebec from Canada.
> 
> Quebec separatists expect that everything will be just fine after they
> leave; believing that they can somehow get us to co-operate with them on an
> economic level amongst other things. 
> 
> As far as I am concerned, they can take a spin on a lit stick of dynamite.
> (I would be happy to light it for them)
> 
> 
> 



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When the Jew Galganov states categorically that he want "BLOOD IN THE
STREETS" and demonises those in favour of sovereignty as "BASTARDS", how
else would you describe the despicable comments of the Jew Galganov???



On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Darryl Levine wrote:

> p.rodgers@atreide.net (Paul Rodgers) wrote:
> 
> >>Est ca continue... Daniel-Robert, if I say that I don't like the
> >>Raymond Villeneuve would you accuse me of "hating francophones" - just
> >>because Villeneuve happens to be a francophone? Of course not (or I
> >>hope not). Otherwise why not accuse me of hating "men", or "people
> >>over the age of 50", or some other incedental fact regarding
> >>Villeneuve that has nothing to do with the reason I don't care for
> >>him.  SIMILARLY, what negative statement has Galganov EVER made
> >>regarding francophones qua francophones? Was it when he went to Ottawa
> >>to support the franco-Ontarians get the type of respect from store
> >>owners that Galganov had been trying to get for anglo-Quebecers here
> >>earlier?
> 
> >Take note that the day Galganov shown his uninvited face on Spark Street "in support"
> >of Franco-Ontarians, he was reminded, by the later, that he was the last person on earth
> >they wanted to be seen and associated with, and he was invited to buzz off. Quest what
> >Galganov did? He stayed around insulting peoples. Making a fu... jerk of himself, which
> >behaviour confirm what was said earlier on the newsgroup: "Galganov is sick... dangerously
> >sick." 
> >Paul Rodgers
> 
> Okay, let's for the sake of argument say that you're right, and that
> the people there didn't want him to come, nor be associated with
> him... etc. That has nothing to do with your VICIOUS LIE that he
> doesn't like francophones. You have yet to provide us with even *one*
> quote to establish your proposition. You are like the worst debater on
> this newsgroup (except for maybe Luc Richard).
> 
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov 20 07:20:44 PST 1996
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You still failed to answer the questions regarding, DO JEWS OWN or CONTROL
QUEBEC?


After all, with the Jew galganov and his Jewish defense League colleagues,
he wants an ethnic war in Quebec, WITH BLOOD IN THE STREETS, as he is
quoted!!!!



On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Brendan McCoy wrote:

> Ron Webb wrote:
> > 
> 
> > > Why would you want to die, for the Jews, if Quebec and the majority of
> > > its' normal citizens wish to separate?
> 
> > > >
> Speak for yourself with your "MAJORITY" bull.If that communist,Dictator,
> seperatist pq.party wouldn't have cheated on God knows how many
> referendum "no" votes, they would have been beaten "ALL TO HELL."Even
> with their cheating they were beaten,so you know what that means about
> your "majority?"
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov 20 07:24:40 PST 1996
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Glad to see that Neil Singh, who says he is Hindu, is finally learning
some English while attending a school in the USA.

Perhaps some day he may even be able to learn some French, so that he can
comment intelligently on the problems with JEWS in the Province of
Quebec,Canada.



On Tue, 12 Nov 1996, Neil wrote:

> Reposting article removed by rogue canceller.  See news.admin.net-abuse.announce
> for further information.
> 
> On Tue, 12 Nov 1996 acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> 
> > The Jew Galganov was here in Alberta, on Jewish radio programs, trying to
> > incite westerners against Quebecers.
> 
> And the Hindu Neil is here in Arizona, on Quebecois newsgroups, trying to
> incite all sane people against your presence on SCQ, where you are not
> wanted by anyone. Not only do you have bad breath, but your fly is down.
> So leave. 
> 
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov 20 07:24:42 PST 1996
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Your points are too kind.

Why should taxpayers have to support this parasite for the rest of her
life?

Why not just euthenase this worthless piece of what???



On 17 Nov 1996 intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> GLUE SNIFFING MOM
> 
> The Supreme Court will shortly decide whether or not a glue sniffing
> addict can be forced to take counselling, therapy and or treatment. 
> 
> She is addicted, unmarried, on welfare and has three other children. 
> Two of her 3 children are severely brain damaged because of her addiction.  
> 
> First, since she can't keep her legs together she should be sterilized.
>  
> Children are not rights, they are responsibilities.  She is clearly unfit 
> and should be stopped from any further pregnancies.
> 
> Second, an abortion should be considered since the unborn child is
> already addicted because of her.  
> 
> Her children should be removed, and she should spend the next decade 
> in a work camp to cleanse her of temptation and addiction.
> 
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov 20 07:24:43 PST 1996
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Have huge 10 volume European Matchbox Cover Collection, finely mounted on
black pages in Schaubeck albums.
 
Will trade all for quality stamp collection of similar value.
 
The collection will be shipped from canada,and takes a large apple carton
in volume.


Other trade offers may be considered.



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Have huge 10 volume European Matchbox Cover Collection, finely mounted on
black pages in Schaubeck albums.
  
Will trade all for quality stamp collection of similar value.
  
The collection will be shipped from Canada,and takes a large apple carton
in volume.

Other trade offers may be considered, such as solid gold pocket
watch,double case preferred, or???



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On 15 Nov 1996 durocher@together.net wrote:

Today's (96/11/14) Globe and Mail, Canada's National newspaper carried
this story:

Predictions of misery after separation cloaked in secrecy 
               By Martin Mittelstaedt 
               Queen's Park Bureau

               TORONTO - Quebec secession would devastate the Ontario
 economy, studies done for the Ontario government show, according to a
 senior government official familiar with the research. 

 "Nothing short of an earthquake would be more damaging to the Ontario
 economy than Quebec leaving," said the source, who did not want to be
 identified. 
 
 Increased spending and loss of tax revenue would cost the Ontario
 government $16.5-billion, the source said, equivalent to 30 per cent of
 what it currently spends each year. 
 
 The full story is available at:
 http://www.globeandmail.ca/web/cgi-bin/DisplayPage?SITE=web&KEY=961114.GlobeFront.UONTAN&TRACKID=MC_176722
 
 Polls have shown for the last year, that a majority of the French
 speaking population of Quebec will vote yes in the forthcoming
 referendum on the sovereignty of Quebec.



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You obviously know less than nothing about either the geography, or
population of the Province of Quebec.

But what can one expect from a faggot lover,somehow in Singapore.

For your information, Quebec is almost 99.8% occupied by people of French
origin, with a small part of the city of Montreal inhabited by anglos,
mainly JEWS.



On 15 Nov 1996, Steve Sundberg wrote:

> acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> :  
> :  Polls have shown for the last year, that a majority of the French
> :  speaking population of Quebec will vote yes in the forthcoming
> :  referendum on the sovereignty of Quebec.
> 
> I thought the Quebecois were supposed to secede last year when this 
> matter last came up for a vote.  But they didn't, did they.
> 
> Funny, too, that it's not just the French-speaking electorate that gets 
> to vote.  What about the English-speaking half of the province?
> 
> -- 
> _.,-*'`^`'*-,.__.,-*'`^`'*-,.__.,-*'`^`'*-,._
>  It's been Oolong time, my Darjeeling Jasmine,             deejay@mm.com     
>    since we've had Tea together.                73617.105@compuserve.com
>    _.,-*'`^`'*-,.__.,-*'`^`'*-,.__.,-*'`^`'*-,._
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov 20 07:29:50 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: No Bankruptcy On Student Loans?
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 09:44:26 -0700
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What is happening, is that the fedreal government appoints the department
of Justice to act as Intervenor in the bankruptcies for student loans.

The Court is then advised that as educational loans, considered as a
'necessary", they are NOT to be wiped out at Bankruptcy.

This makes sense, since first, it is taxpayer money,not private funds.

Secondly, the purpose of the loans is for the existence and improvement of
the alleged human.Most of the money goes for living expenses rather than
education costs,which allows the loans to be exempt from writing off in
bankruptcy.

As far as I am concerned, there should be NO STUDENT LOANS from the
taxpayers.

Either the student gets jobs with which to pay for the so-called
education, borrows from friends, family or banks, or postpones the sitting
on his rear at universities.

By having to work for the education, perhaps fewer students would be
taking useless course, where they have no hope of ever finding any
employment!!!!



On 17 Nov 1996, John Angus wrote:

> 
> Robin R. Krasichynski (rkrasich@awinc.com) writes:
> > It is my understanding that normally student loans are excepted in personal
> > bankruptcy proceedings.  This is altered if there are some extenuating 
> > circumstances (usually medical).
> > 
> 
> I haven't heard of any kind of exemption regarding student loans.
> What I mean is, as far as I know, and I know someone who has
> declared bankruptcy, student loans are not considered any different
> than any other kind of debt. Bankruptcy does eliminate them, at
> least in Ontario. Alberta may be different.
> 
> JA
> 
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From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov 20 07:29:51 PST 1996
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From: 
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Subject: Re: No Bankruptcy On Student Loans?
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 12:00:07 -0700
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In Bankruptcy Court in Edmonton, during the past year the federal Justice
Department has intervened on behalf of taxpayers regarding the attempt by
some graduates to have their student loans cancelled by bankruptcy.

In almost every case, the Courts have accepted the position of the
government, that student loans are not to be written off by bankruptcy.

Some of the arguments supporting this position have included the fact that
much of the student loans is for the provision of "necessaries", which are
not wiped out by bankruptcy, as SEARS has frequently maintained in the
courts.

Another strong argument has been that education bestows a benefit on the
student, which becomes a necessary for the status of the bankrupt. 

If the student really wants an education, he should work for his
tuition,or else wait.



On 17 Nov 1996, Greg Bobkiewicz wrote:

> Robin R. Krasichynski (rkrasich@awinc.com) wrote:
> : On 17 Nov 1996 15:51:27 GMT John Angus said ...
> : >
> : >
> : >Robin R. Krasichynski (rkrasich@awinc.com) writes:
> : >> It is my understanding that normally student loans are excepted in personal
> : >> bankruptcy proceedings.  This is altered if there are some extenuating 
> : >> circumstances (usually medical).
> : >> 
> : >
> : >I haven't heard of any kind of exemption regarding student loans.
> : >What I mean is, as far as I know, and I know someone who has
> : >declared bankruptcy, student loans are not considered any different
> : >than any other kind of debt. Bankruptcy does eliminate them, at
> : >least in Ontario. Alberta may be different.
> : >
> : >JA
> : 
> : 
> : Yes, in Alberta student loans are excepted in bankruptcy proceedings.
> 	Unless the laws have changed, bankruptcy does wipe out student loan 
> debts in Alberta.  If not, we must revolt.  Anyway, doesn't it say in the 
> Bible that some debts should be forgiven (In Deuteronomy?) 
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Wed Nov 20 10:25:40 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: DO  JEWS  RUN/CONTROL   QUEBEC?
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 16:11:13 -0700
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For the benefit of normal residents of Quebec, who are really starting to
dislike les perdits juifs, you should be aware that the creature calling
itself TIM NYE, aka as TIM NEIMANN is closely allied to the Jewish
propaganda group calling itself NIZKOR.

NIZKOR has no real existence, although it claims to operate as an
affiliate of an organisation called Congregation Emmane-El
		                    1461 Blanchard St.
				    Victoria,B.C.

I am correcting where necessary the false information from the damn jews.



On Mon, 18 Nov 1996, Tim Nye wrote:
>    ncrccjc@ibm.net (Bernie Farber) wrote:
> >echte Wahrheit  wrote:
Over the past few months, residents of Quebec must be wondering whether
the JEWS RUN/CONTROL the Province of Quebec.

Third was the televised gloating, under the flag of Israel, of the
Canadian Jewish Congress, when they arranged for the Quebec
Lieutenant-General to resign. How can supporters of a foreign power
force the Quebecers to renounce a well-regarded official??

> >Bernie Farber( a well known JEW) responds:
> >Its amazing (though not surprising) that "Wahrheit" continues to perpetrate
> >this blatant lie. Anyone familiar with a newspaper in Canada ( I suppose this
> >would leave Waherhiet out) will know that to the contrary CJC had NEVER
> >asked for Roux's resignation. It was quite satisfied with an explanation and
> >apology. Warheit, the antisemite lies; but what else is new?

> Tim

> This FAQ is an attempt to assimilate the Wit and Wisdom of one William
> Grosvenor

> So now for the questions.  Quoted text is indented and references are
> noted in brackets (e.g., [1] ) and are listed at the bottom of this
> document.

> Who Is William Grosvenor?

> Let's let Mr. Grosvenor start things off [1]:
> 			     WILLIAM GROSVENOR
 	Age:             56 Years
 	Address:         Alberta, CANADA
 	Nationality:     British
 	Birth Place:     UK
 	Profession:      International Management Consultant
 	Education:       P.Mgr., FIC, FIAA, CGA
 	Hobbies:         Stamp Collecting
 			 Computers
 			 Travel
 	Likes:           International correspondence
 	Dislikes:        Faggots, policical correct vermin
 	Wants to be
 	Friends with:    Both Male and Female from Age 25 to 65 years
 	Relevant:        Have lived and worked and owned businesses
 			 throughout Europe, coast to coast in North America,
 			 as well as in several countries of se Asia
 	EMAIL:           acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
> A few observations can be made at this point.  First, while he resides
> in Canada, he claims British citizenship (although he has also claimed
> Canadian citizenship to a different audience [24]).


I guess that the jewish maggot has never heard of dual, or multiple
citizenships, which are completely legal.So what???

> Second, he claims to be an "International Management Consultant", but
> professional reporters have been unable to find any clients of Mr.
> Grosvenor's 'firm'. [25, 26]

The jewish maggot had not looked very hard, since some of our firms ARE
registered with the Alberta Government. But that means that the lying jews
must actually look elsewhere than in their own false records files!!!

Third, his intolerance and bigotry starts
to show, e.g., his dislikes > are "Faggots, policical correct vermin".

> He Dislikes "Faggots"???
> As we shall see, he seems to hate just about everyone, but, first a few
> select quotes from Mr. G on the topic of homosexuality:

 	You are obviously a diseased faggot, yourself dying of AIDS.
 
 	Your lies will probably cause your diseased brain to accelerate 
 	the death you deserve.[2]
 
 	AIDS is definitely one of Mother nature's best ways to select 
 	only the fittest of the species of mankind to survive.
 
 	However, do not forget that AIDS is almost exclusively a LIFESTYLE 
 	CHOICE of those perverts who indulge themselves as faggots.
 
 	AIDS was deliberately spread worldwide by the Canadian faggot 
 	with Air Canada. This is irrefutably documented in the book 
 	"AND THE BAND PLAYED ON". {note: this claim has been refuted [4]}

 	Hopefully, all those diseased vermin will soon die, so that the 
 	rest of humanity can go back to doing their normal activities.[3]

 	As for faggots, they serve no useful purpose on this earth, and 
 	only in cremation, will their ashes serve some use as fertliser.[31]

 	Actually, I am very careful with whom I do business.Fortunately, 
 	faggots do not seem to be involved, yet, in the stamp business, 
 	so I don't have to deal with any.

 	Sorry, but I reserve the right as to whom I will deal,and faggots 
 	are not approved by me.[5]

 	After all, nature created only two normal sexes - male or female.
 	If you say that you are neither, then you obviuosly are not human.
 
 	As for the other terms used by and for the perverts, that is 
 	their choice.[6]

 	It looks as though you have more than the normal share of gall. 
 	But then, one must expect perverts to be abnormal,and even 
 	subhuman.
 
 	The only good faggot, is an incinerated one. Verstehen Sie?[7]
 
 	Just because there have been criminals, and perverts throughout 
 	history, does not legalise these offensive vermin.
 
 	The best way to get rid of these perverts, is extermination, by 
 	whatever method the state prefers to use.[8]
 
 	Further, in many civilised nations, such as Singapore, Malaysia, 
 	and Saudi Arabia to name a few, sodomy as practiced by faggots 
 	is a criminal offence, with punishments as prescribed by law.
 
 	In Muslim nations, the qu'ranic punishment is usually stoning to
 	death.
 
 	I would suggest that these perverts should be eliminated in a more
 	practical method for the needs of normal society.
 
 	Suggestions would include:
 		 medical experiments for treatments using new procedures;
 		 medical experiments for new drugs and treatments;
 		 target practice for the military and police recruits;
 		 target practice for victims to use, in preparing warning 
 			videos to present to children, to show that the 
 			penalty for crimes is death.These would be similar 
 			to the Malaysia & Singapore programs "DADAH IS 
 			DEATH"[9]

 	These extra benefits for their faggot friends were brought to 
 	you by Herr Stein/Rock, Gray/Graustein, and Kaplan among others.
 	They were strongly supported by major members of the World Jewish 
 	Congress, who feel that faggots deserve special rights and 
 	privileges, just as in Sodom and Gommorrah!!![10]

> The Jews Are In On This Too?
 
> And then some, e.g.,
 
 	Why are the JEWS allowed to break the laws of sovereign Quebec?
 
 	Did they terrorise some government officials, or were officials
 	otherwise induced??[11]

 	So why should the JEWS be allowed to break the provincial laws?
 	Other religions, such as the majority Christians, must obey the 
 	law, so why not the damn JEWS?[12]

 	And don't forget that the forerunner organisation of the KGB was 
 	set up by that Polish JEW Louis Dzerzhinski, who helped elimiate 
 	all opponents to communism in the USSR, including the mass 
 	extermination in Ukraine in the 1930's!!!Ther NKVD/KGB were and 
 	are mainly JEWS,still.[13]

 	It seems that Ostrov just doesn't believe in telling the truth, 
 	which seems to be a failing of those of the Jewish persuasion,
 	and their lackeys.[14]

 	Is it this special Jewish Arithmetic that increased the 
 	International Red Cross figure of 320,000 to the now fictitious 
 	figure of six millions?[15] 

 	If being Jewish had nothing to do with the biggest tax scam in 
 	Canadian history, then why is it  the biggest tax scam in 
 	Canadian history?[16]

 	Note that not all Jews fit the slimy description, since there 
 	must be some good Jews.[23]

 	I suggest that you MUST consider the ethnic treatment of Chinese 
 	by the communist Canadian government, vis a vis, the white JEWISH 
 	BRONFMANs.[17]

> Grosvenor's A Racist, Too?

> Yep.  Racist and all-around bigot.  For instance:
 
 	The JEWS think they control Canada, but I believe it is now about 
 	time for the whites in Quebec and Canada to start to clean their 
 	countries.[18]

 	In view of last night's riots in Montreal,and the comments of 
 	M.Parizeau regarding Jews and natives,responsible travellers 
 	should seriously consider whether it is safe for non-frenchies 
 	in Quebec.

 	If you must visit Quebec,be sure to bring your flak jacket.Guns 
 	for self-protection are not allowed in communist Canada,since 
 	our government wants only criminals and natives to have weapons.
 
 	In other words,much of Canada is no longer safe for foreigners 
 	who do not speak with a Quebec French patois.[19]

 	Cretin is kissing the asses of the frogs in Quebec,and also those 
 	of the native homelands.[20]

 	Quite frankly,I doubt that it will have much impact on North 
 	Americans.It will reduce the numbers of Poles,Ukranians,Russians 
 	and the like who to many Slovaks, were undesirables in any case.[21]

 	Yes, my articles are definitely racist.
 
 	You bet, the above points may seem racist, because the JEWS 
 	claim to be a race, not that they are, and the Chinese are now 
 	being victimised to make up for the frauds of the JEWS.[22]

> Is There Anyone Grosvenor Doesn't Hate?

> Surprisingly, there is.  After extensive questioning, he came up with 
> this list:

 	Obviously I do not hate Chinese, Malaysians, Singaporeans, 
 	Taiwanese, Germans, Iranians and Iraquis, to name just a few 
 	of the groups of people that I respect.[23]

> However, so far he hasn't come up with a rationale for this choice.

Could it be that I respect those nations where the governments believe in
justice for the majority, rather than preferential treatment for an odious
minority??

> Ironically, Grosvenor's buddies, the Ghermezian brothers, who we'll meet
> later, are originally from Iran.  Of course, given what they did to him
> in court, Grosvenor obviously has a lot of respect for them.

I have absolutely NO respect for the Ghermezian Jews, even if they are
>from  Iran.

As a matter of fact, it seems that many other communities around the
world, where they tried to find people to fund their proposals, must think
as I do.

Did you forget last week's strong rebuff from Silver Springs Maryland to
their proposed US$600 million proposal, which got laughed out of the
State???

> Anyone Else? > ------------
> 
> Mr. G also harbours an active dislike of immigrants, especially those
> with criminal records, e.g.,

 	What about the almost 6,000 MINISTER'S PERMITS given out last 
 	year to unqualified people,admitted as so-called immigrants?
 
 	This included more than 1,500 convicted criminals, which Canada
 	apparently prefers to good workers or investors!!![32]

 	As though Canada has not enough criminals, the communist 
 	government of Canada wants to IMPORT MORE!!!
 
 	Many of these were of course from Russia,and many were involved 
 	in serious crimes there.
 
 	Why should we be bringing in more criminals, when they are 
 	already a serious problem here?[33]
 
> Of course, the irony here is that Mr. G himself *is* an immigrant with
> a criminal record.


There is no record with any government department regarding your
slanderous allegations.

But, what can one expect from the damn JEWS at NIZKOR, and all their
anti-Christian lies???

> He's A Criminal?

> Yep.  Convictions in Canada for both assault and extortion [26].  His
> criminal record before first immigrating to Canada, if any, is not known,
> although he changed his name from Gruber to Grosvenor not long after
> first arriving in Canada.

> After First Arriving In Canada?

> According to Alberta Report[26], Grosvenor first arrived in Canada in the
> mid-1960s.  Grosvenor himself has claimed the year of arrival to be 1965,
> probably from Newcastle, England [27].


The above section is completely false, as even Canada Citizenship could
confirm, were they allowed to provide verification.

However, it is typical of the lying Christ-killers, called JEWS!!!

> Where he was in the 1970s is something of a point of contention.  For
> instance, Alberta Report quotes Grosvenor as claiming to have been a 
> consultant, "processed for top secret and military security clearance," 
> to the prime minister of Malaysia.[26]

> Grosvenor has made a number of other claims about this period, such as:

 	I am a former Consultant to the Prime Minister of Malaysia in 
 	Finance, Planning, and Economic Development.

 	Further, in the past I was an official of the Governments of 
 	Indonesia and Taiwan,in Indonesia.[28]

 	I was a Senior Official of the Government of Malaysia. Further I 
 	was an Official of the Governments of Taiwan, and of Indonesia.
 
 	As a consequence, having lived and worked in S.E.Asia, I have 
 	some feeling for residents of these areas.[29]

 	yes, I have been an official of the Governments of Malaysia, 
 	Indonesia, and Taiwan.[30]

 	By the way, I am NOT a student. When I was in Malaysia, I was 
 	a professor, trying to instill some knowledge in capable 
 	students.[31]

> So "professor", just how _does_ one spell "finance"?  (Note that Grosvenor
> has refused repeatedly to give details of these positions.)

It is none of the Jews' business what I did,and for whom, since I am not
applying for employment with such vermin.

People in S.E.Asia will have been able to verify my position, and since I
was featured in the media while I was there, there are more than enough
pieces of proof.

> According to Alberta Report, Grosvenor then reappeared in Canada about
> 1980 in Edmonton, where he has resided until the present. [26]

> However, Grosvenor disputes this record.  For instance:

 	More lies from the damn JEWS. Since I am a Canadian, I did NOT 
 	immigrate twice, as the liar claims.[24]
 
> If he didn't immigrate twice to Canada, he must not have left in the 
> 1970s as he has claimed.  Also:

The lying jews are trying to say, that when one goes to work oversea, one
must IMMIGRATE to Canada, when one is a citizen?? What absolute garbage
>from  the lying jews!!!

 	I have been a professional accountant in Canada for more than
        30 years,including consulting on Canadian taxes.[34]

> If we are to believe Grosvenor when he says he came to Canada in 1965, 
> and if we believe when he says he has spent "more than 30 years" there,
> we must come to the conclusion that he has been in Canada continuously
> from 1965 until now.  So, how could he also have lived in Asia, as he claims:

I did not say that I first came to Canada in 1965, which seems to be
another lie from the damn jews,again.If they would only bother to check
the truth,and the facts, they would find that I arrived in Canada after
WWII!!!

First, I have lived and worked in S.E.Asia, in Malaysia,
Singapore,Indonesia and Taiwan.[35]

> Who knows?  Maybe he's soooo schizophrenic that one personality remained
> in Canada while another chose to live in Asia (and who could blame it for 
> wanting to get as far away from Grosvenor as it could...).


> Hold On Now.  He's a Foreigner, Yet Complains About Canada?
> 
> Uh-huh.  Here's an example:

 	If you have any sense, you should seriously consider and AVOID 
 	CANADA!!
 
 	AVOID CANADA has continued to show that the risks, and costs 
 	of going to Canada will result in a much reduced lifestyle, 
 	compared to living in Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore or any other 
 	civilised country.

 	AVOID CANADA details the fact that now in Canada faggots have 
 	special rights. This means that if you do any business with 
 	the government, you MUST hire faggots,even if with AIDS,no 
 	matter about the risk to the lives of yourself and others.
 
 	AVOID CANADA has been presented from the perspective of an 
 	immigrant,since I am one.I lived and worked in SE Asia, in 
 	Malaysia,Indonesia and Taiwan,and understand the important 
 	values of those who succeed.
 
 	AVOID CANADA is concerned about traditional family values, 
 	while Canada being communist(have you already forgotten that 
 	former PM Trudeau studied in Moscow), wants to destroy the 
 	traditional family.That is why they give special rights to 
 	faggots and similar perverts.[36]
 
> One thing to note is that even though Grosvenor claims here to have 
> lived in S.E. Asia (supporting the theory he immigrated twice to 
> Canada), he also claims that living in Canada "will result in a much 
> reduced lifestyle".  One wonders why he moved back, in that case.

> In any event, Grosvenor's unhappiness with Canada has led him to
> lay out plans for his own country, "Canada West", or more commonly 
> called "Grosvenor-Reich", details of which can be found on his 
> homepage [37]. 

> Setting aside the issue of whether this foreign national lobbying for 
> the destruction of Canada is an act of treason or sedition, it turns 
> out that Grosvenor-Reich would not be the paradise Mr. G expects.  
> For instance, from his "Immigration Policy":
 
 	IMMIGRATION will be strictly regulated. Only persons useful to 
 	the economy of Western Canada will be admitted. Criminals, 
 	so-called economic refugees, those unable to support themselves,
 	those with AIDS, and those expected to be a drain on the 
 	taxpayers will not be admitted. Sponsors of immigrants will be 
 	required to deposit a substantial cash bond with the Government 
 	for 10 years, to cover any costs should the sponsored immigrant 
 	ever become a cost to taxpayers. In fact, those costing 
 	taxpayers while not yet a citizen should be deported to their
 	country of origin.[37]
 
> Note the part: "Criminals, {...} will not be admitted."
 
> As a criminal immigrant, Mr. G would be the first deported from his 
> personal fascist state.  To paraphrase Groucho Marx, William Grosvenor
> would not live in a country which would have him as citizen...


Since there is absolutely no government record my being a criminal, the
lies from the jew are obviously defamatory.

> If He Hates Canada Too, Why Doesn't He Leave?

> Oh, he has promised to:

 	Feel free to get back to me directly,should you wish more info 
 	about the problems of Canada.I will be there just for a short 
 	while longer,before I relocate with all my businesses.[36]

 	I will not allow any faggot-loving government to tell me whom 
 	I should deal with, and sooner than allow these vermin, I am 
 	closing down businesses.[38]
 
 	Professional, 56 years old wishes to emigrate/relocate.
 
 	Skills include professor of accounting & business management, 
 	have owned many businesses around the world, could also teach 
 	English.
 
 	Hold British passport,and would prefer relocating to country 
 	where English spoken, such as Ireland,Central America, or 
 	perhaps South America, or S.E.Asia?[39]
 
> Sadly, although lots of people would gladly contribute to purchasing
> him a one-way ticket to someplace  else, Mr. G is not a man
> of his word.  One theory is that his wife, who owns the house he lives
> in, would cut off his allowance if he left, forcing Mr. G to find a 
> job.

> He Doesn't Have A Job?

> While he likes to pretend to be an "international businessman", e.g.,
> as on his homepage [40]:

 	The GROSVENOR INTERNATIONAL GROUP is a multinational group of 
 	businesses operating worldwide, presently based in northern 
 	Canada. Some of our prominent activities include:
 
 	INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT INC. does International 
 	Management Consulting. It has done assignments in South East 
 	Asia, including Malaysia, Indonesia and Taiwan.
 
 	GROSVENOR STAMP CO. is an international stamps dealer and 
 	auction firm for stamps for collectors. (APS#D138099) We now 
 	do LARGE TRADES / EXCHANGES with dealers and collectors 
 	worldwide. As a service to collectors in countries where 
 	dollars are scarce, we also offer COMPUTER PROGRAMS IN 
 	EXCHANGE FOR STAMPS.
 
 	UNIQUE COMPUTER DISTRIBUTING has been an importer and dealer 
 	of computers for more than 16 years.
 
 	William Grosvenor , P.Mgr., FIC, FIAA - C.E.O.
 	GROSVENOR INTERNATIONAL GROUP[40]

> It turns out that all of Mr. G's businesses are run out of his wife's
> house, a modest three-bedroom bungalow in the Dickensfield neighborhood
> of Edmonton.  Furthermore, with one exception, none of his "businesses"
> have phones or can be found in any business directory [41]. (The phone
> listing for his bookkeeping business appears to be the family number.)
> Of course, Mr. G has an explanation for this:

 	I keep my businesses private, as the law permits,and it is none 
 	of anyone's business how I operate, as long as I do so legally,
 	as I do.[43]
 
> Another breakthrough from the "INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF MANAGEMENT 
> INC." (Mr. G's bookkeeping business): Stealth Marketing -- how better 
> to keep away those pesky potential customers?

> To get an idea of the holdings of the "GROSVENOR INTERNATIONAL GROUP",
> we can examine the case of the Motherboard Upgrade.  Over the last
> year or more, Grosvenor has been trying to trade an old parachute
> for a new motherboard for his computer.  Picking up the trail, we find:

 May 25, 1996:
 	Want Pentium 133 system or similar such as S86 system, IN 
 	TRADE for items I have,including some extra high res scanners,
 	etc..[45]
 
 August 12, 1996:
 	Am looking to TRADE some of my items for a fully featured 
 	Motherboard. Looking for S86 - 120 or 150 Mh board, with 32 
 	Mb RAM.[46]
 
 November 7, 1996:
 	I collect stamps, coins, starting on guns, but open to proposals 
 	such as good Motherboard with P166 or equivalent???[47]



Since faggots can not have children, one must excvuse the insanity of the
AIDS carriers and spreaders.

In fact, the upgrade is for the computers of my 2 sons.

Why pay cash, when one can barter??Even jews should appreciate thrift.

> Grosvenor Is Not A Man Of His Word?
> To put it mildly, yes.  For example, take the case of Mr. G vs. the
> Ghermezian brothers.  The Ghermezian's company, Triple Five, develops
> shopping malls, including the West Edmonton Mall and the Mall of America..
> In the late 1980s, the Ghermezians also developed the ire of one
> William Grosvenor.
> 
> What happened?  As Forbes magazine recounted [25]:
> 
> 	Why does he do it?  Grosvenor originally told FORBES that he 
> 	had been "swindled by Triple Five." But in a more recent 
> 	conversation, he said, "They got several lots rezoned so they 
> 	could build a lousy strip mall next to my house." 
> 
> Of course, this put Grosvenor on the war path.  In his words:
> 
> 	Alberta Report story last month quoted Grosvenor admitting he 
> 	intends "to use all means at my disposal anywhere in the world 
> 	to put the Ghermezians out of business."[26]
> 
> But wait, you're probably thinking to yourself.  Last time you looked,
> both West Edmonton Mall and Mall of America were still in business,
> thriving, in fact.  Why aren't the Ghermezians out of business yet?


The Mall of America is NOT owned by the Jewish Ghermezians, but by the
SIMON FAMILY. It seems that the Ghermezians could find no one to lend them
any money.

As the Silver Springs Maryland people published last week, in referring to
Triple 5, "They have no money."


> Well, once Mr. G reached the Ghermezian's threshold for stupidity, they
> took him to court, although they had some trouble getting him there:
> 
> 	After returning from West Germany last week, Grosvenor was 
> 	holed up in his home in Edmonton's Dickinsfield neighbourhood, 
> 	reportedly refusing service of the Triple Five gag order.  The 
> 	company's lawyers were preparing to go to court again Monday 
> 	morning for an order allowing them to nail the injunction to 
> 	the door of Grosvenor's home, which is in fact owned by his 
> 	wife, Sario.[26]
> 
> After this point he caved-in completely, although, according to Grosvenor, 
> he scared those wimpy billionaires right out of the courtroom:

 	An apology was requested, but the lawyers for the Jewish 
 	Ghermezians refused to re-appear in court to finalise any 
 	documents, so none was finalised.[48]
 
> But what Mr. G calls their 'refusal' to re-appear was more due to 
> the Ghermezians having no need whatsoever to continue action against 
> him.  A more complete story came from the Edmonton Journal:
> 
> 	William Grosvenor has been found in contempt of a civil court 
> 	order not to speak against Triple Five Corp. or interfere in 
> 	its business.
> 
> 	Justice Russel Dixon reprimanded Grosvenor, Thursday in Court 
> 	of Queen's Bench.
> 
> 	Grosvenor promised to cease and desist from further anti-Triple 
> 	Five communications, including any public references to 
> 	"Ghermezianville" - a term he used to describe this City.
> 
> 	Grosvenor also agreed to prepare an apology to Triple Five.[49]
Incorrect, and no apology has ever been given, since their lawyers could
not get together with mine!!!

> The next time Grosvenor mouths off about the Ghermezians, he will face
> a *second* contempt of court citation which no Judge is likely to find
> amusing.  Neither would Grosvenor, who'd probably be taking a lot of
> long, warm prison showers after that.
> 
> In fact, there is no evidence that Mr. G has made any negative 
> statements about the Ghermezians since that time.  So much for his 
> vow to put them out of business.
> 
> This episode led to international fame for Mr. G when Forbes magazine
> labelled him a "roving fruitcake". [25]

> "Roving Fruitcake"?
> -------------------
> 
> Followed by an observation that "Grosvenor does make occasional forays 
> into sanity".[25]  The diagnosis seems to be official, too.  Alberta 
> Report dug up that:
> 
> 	Grosvenor, 48, has a criminal record for assault and extortion, 
> 	that he was diagnosed at Riverview Psychiatric Hospital in 
> 	British Columbia in 1973 as suffering from a paranoid 
> 	personality disorder, and that his harassment of the Ghermezians 
> 	is only the latest in a 20-year series of vendettas against 
> 	corporations and individuals, including leading figures of the 
> 	British Columbia legislature and judiciary.[26]
> 
> 
> How Can I Tell If I'm Successfully Yanking Grosvenor's Chain?
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> It seems that of all the people he hates (and there are certainly a lot
> of them), Grosvenor hates Jews the most.  If you find he has corrupted 
> your name to make it sound more Jewish, you know you've got his working 
> neurons into Rapid Fire Mode.
> 
> So far the Grosvenor Kook-point contest winners are:
> 
> 	Ken McVay       (aka "OyVay")
> 	Jason Kodish    (aka "Kaddish")
> 	Tim Nye         (aka "Neimann/Neiman/Neuman")
> 	Cook            (aka "Koch")
> 	Tim Brown       (aka "Bronstein")
> 
> 	(and more to be announced...)
> 
> What's Next?
> ------------
> 
> Eventually, this FAQ will contain a list of Grosvenor's contradictions
> (such as the criminal Grosvenor demanding execution of all criminals,
> the Grosvenor who hid his assets to "defeat" creditors demanding that
> white collar criminals make full restitution to all their victims, etc.).
> 
> Not to mention Manly Willy Grosvenor's Barbie-doll collection.
> 
> As you can imagine, however, this list will probably be longer than
> the current FAQ. :-)
> 
> Anyway, onward and upward...
> 
> 
> 		 -------- References ---------
> (because of the file length, the reference list has been omitted.  E-mail me 
> for a copy. Tim)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 06:22:25 PST 1996
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Bernie Farber, the mouthpiece full of who knows what for the Canadian
JEWISH Congress is annoyed that viewers of the videotape in western canada
notice that it was the flag of the dictatorship of ISRAEL behind the
table, when the CJC held the press conference to denounce the Lieutenant
General of Quebec.

In his younger days, like most Quebecers, he had participated in an
anti-conscription rally. Quebecers did not want to fight what seemed to be
a war for the profiteers.




On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, BB wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Nov 96 14:55:38 GMT, ncrccjc@ibm.net (Bernie Farber) wrote:
> > wrote:
> >>Bernie, on TV was shown the CJC minions, under the Jewish flag of Israe=
l,
> >>requesting the resignation of M.Roux!!!!

> >>I am sure that you can also get a copy of the videotape news report, so
> >>that you can see what your jewish brethren say!!!

> >Bernie Farber responds:
> >You are a pathological LIAR. I have the tape! CJC NEVER asked for
> >Roux's resignation.

The Canadian Jewish Congress most definitely DID hold the press conference
to denounce the senior official in Quebec, under the flag of the foreign
state of Israel!!!

> http://www.alquds.org:80/www/zionism/zionism.html The Dark Web=20
> Pages of Zionism=20
> http://www.webcom.com/~ezundel/english/welcome.html Zundelsite
> http://194.243.91.7/ISLAM/ to the light
> http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~lpauling/ Student Revisionist Resource Site
> http://www.eskimo.com/~ralphj/ Revisionist Productions
> http://home1.gte.net/mgiwer/index.html Reflections upon the Holocaust
> http://www.webcom.com/ezundel/english/LEUCHTER/leuchtertoc.html The Leuch=
ter Report
> http://www.hoffman-info.com/ The Hoffman Report
> http://www.kaiwan.com/~ihrgreg/ Greg Raven's Website
> http://www.codoh.com/irving/irving.html David Irving
> http://www.codoh.com/ Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust (Bradley=
 Smith)=20
> http://www.pixi.com/~bewise/ Be Wise as Serpents
> http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/index.html  L'Association des Anciens Amateurs=
 de R=E9cits de Guerre et
> d'Holocauste (also in English) =20
> http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/ Arthur R. Butz=20
> http://www.air-photo.com/ Air Photo Evidence (John Ball)
> http://www.adam.com.au/~fredadin/adins.html Adelaide Institute=20



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 06:22:26 PST 1996
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Subject: JEWS TRY AGAIN TO CLOSE DOWN ZUNDELSITE ON WWW
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 08:37:25 -0700
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Southam News in Canada reports today, Saturday November 23 1996, in its'
newspapers agross Canada that the Jews are again trying to close down the
ZUNDELSITE on WWW.

The ZUNDELSITE in fact is not even operating from Canada, but from the
USA.

Max Yalden, who is a Jew, and is the chief human rights commissioner in
Canada is trying to act on the complaint of another JEW, Sabina Citron of
Toronto.

David Jones, president of Electronic Frontier Canada, an organisation
concerned about Internet issues feels that the Canadian commission is
exceeding its' legal mandate in trying to regulate the Internet. Further,
Jones feels that the Canadian organisation has no jurisdiction over
Zundel's Website, which is based in the USA.

Jones, who is a professor at McMaster University in Hamilton,Canada
supports freedom of speech. He is quoted as saying,"Should people be able
to say offensive and racist things? Yes, that's what free speech is all
about."

Zundel is more forthright in his comments regarding this latest
harrassment by the JEWS.

Zundel states "It's basically more Jewish individuals abusing the power
that they have thanks to the Canadian taxpayer in trying to shut up an
uncomfortable critic."

The ZUNDELSITE is a repository for historical revisionist reports, such as
" Did Six Million Really Die?", as well as other reports questioning
whether six million jews really died at the hands of the Nazis during
WWII.

Send support messages to Zundel, or Dr. Ingrid Rimland, at
irimland@cts.com

Support freedom of speech and expression.





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Do you realise, that by asking about the TRUTH, you may be receiving a
visit from the jewish rights police?

Some lazy parasites feel that it is their right to live off the
public,without ever having to pay taxes.

Mind you, they are supported in this stand by liars/lawyers of a certain
ethnicity, who themselves are parasites living off their clients.

All of the parasites live off the taxes and payments from normal residents
in Canada.



On 23 Nov 1996 intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> Let me try this.  Hey, immigrants, give me lots of money.  I was here
> first.  I want you to spend $250,000 every year on my family.  I don't
> want to pay taxes, you do.  I want free education, free housing, and
> preferential hiring in all jobs, if I want to work.  I want free repairs
> on my house, and lots of grants and goodies.  Give it to me now immigrant,
> or I'll get violent.  
> 
> When the whites say this it is racist, when the Indians say this its human
> rights.  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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It seems the pervert who lives in a toilet, and can not speak English is
having his LSD hallucinations again.

He just does not like news stories from the Canadian Southam Group of
newspapers.

Why he hates the owners of the Jerusalem Post, the Black bothers, Brown or
Bronstein has never explained.

Cpould it be that it just does not like to read about the TRUTH, even from
Canadian media?



On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Tim Brown wrote:

>  writes:
> 
> >Southam News in Canada reports today, Saturday November 23 1996, in its'
> >newspapers agross Canada that the Jews are again trying to close down the
> >ZUNDELSITE on WWW.
> 
> Acumen is actually William Grosvenor, who has already fucked up
> soc.culture.singapore with his Nazi-style wackoism.  He is a certifiable
> loon with a petrified wad of chewing gum for brains.
>    You can find two whole pages about him:
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/gruber-10q.html
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/grosvenor.william
> 
>    Help stop the fascist scum from polluting the Internet!
> -- 
> bathroom@iglou.com   http://members.iglou.com/bathroom
> STOP PUBLIC SCHOOL UNIFORMS -- IT'S YOUR FIGHT, MASON COUNTY!
> Fight the Leis/Moon conspiracy!
> 
> 



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When you learn English, and then progress to English grammar, if you can
that is, you will learn about the possessive form of its'.

But I guess you prefer to mangle the language of the country where you
reside, or do you use only Hebrew and Yiddish?



On 23 Nov 1996, Joel Rosenberg wrote:

>  writes:
> 
> >Southam News in Canada reports today, Saturday November 23 1996, in its'
> 
> 
> There is no such word as "its'", Grubby.
> 
> 
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Joel Rosenberg       | For news about upcoming books,  | My opinions are mine.
> joelr@winternet.com  | finger joelr@winternet.com      | Whose are yours?
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 



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From: 
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Subject: Re: Grosvenor demonstrates ignorance.  Film at 11
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:58:06 -0700
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Sorry, retard, but here in Canada we use the British grammar and
spelling,
not the corrupted version used by the colonialists in the USA.

Get hold of any reputable English grammar text, such as Fowler, if you can
read, that is.

You might even learn some English, instead of yiddish, in the process.



On 24 Nov 1996, Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> Let me rub it in a little more:  
> its
> its adjective
> The possessive form of it
> Used as a modifier before a noun: The airline canceled its early
> flight to New York.
> [Alteration of it's : IT + -'S.]
> USAGE NOTE: ITS, THE POSSESSIVE FORM OF THE PRONOUN IT, IS NEVER
> WRITTEN WITH AN APOSTROPHE... [Emphasis mine.  JR]

> The American Heritage. Dictionary of the English Language, Third
> Edition copyright ) 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic
> version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved.

>  writes:

> >When you learn English, and then progress to English grammar, if you can
> >that is, you will learn about the possessive form of its'.

> >> >Southam News in Canada reports today, Saturday November 23 1996, in its'
> >> There is no such word as "its'", Grubby.



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It seems the pervert who lives in a toilet, and can not speak English is
having his LSD hallucinations again.

He just does not like news stories from the Canadian Southam Group of
newspapers.

Why he hates the owners of the Jerusalem Post, the Black bothers, Brown or
Bronstein has never explained.

Cpould it be that it just does not like to read about the TRUTH, even from
Canadian media?



On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Tim Brown wrote:

>  writes:
> 
> >Southam News in Canada reports today, Saturday November 23 1996, in its'
> >newspapers agross Canada that the Jews are again trying to close down the
> >ZUNDELSITE on WWW.
> 
> Acumen is actually William Grosvenor, who has already fucked up
> soc.culture.singapore with his Nazi-style wackoism.  He is a certifiable
> loon with a petrified wad of chewing gum for brains.
>    You can find two whole pages about him:
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/gruber-10q.html
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/grosvenor.william
> 
>    Help stop the fascist scum from polluting the Internet!
> -- 
> bathroom@iglou.com   http://members.iglou.com/bathroom
> STOP PUBLIC SCHOOL UNIFORMS -- IT'S YOUR FIGHT, MASON COUNTY!
> Fight the Leis/Moon conspiracy!
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 07:23:07 PST 1996
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 19:06:54 -0700
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Could it be that Tim Brown, Bronstein, or whatever alias he is using now,
JUST DID NOT WANT TO PAY HIS SHARE OF THE SCHOOL TAXES?

Was that because he did not want an education, at any price, but preferred
to remain the illiterate lout he is?

It seems that Mr.Manson told the truth, which offended the likes of Tim,
living in his tandas as he does.

Also, you will note that Tim does not like students to be properly
attired, as they are in most civilised countries.




On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Tim Brown wrote:
> jmanso19@skypoint.com (Jim "Spittle King" Manson) writes:
> >Now, now Tim- stop lying.

> I'm not the liar here, you are.  You cost the taxpayers of Campbell County
> thousands of dollars EACH because you trashed my effort to get the school
> tax repealed by spouting off all this drivel that wasn't true.  You owe
> thousands of residents a large sum of money for this.

> >Um- Gee Tim, looks like you wrote it all right.

> I was quoted out of context, as usual.
> bathroom@iglou.com   http://members.iglou.com/bathroom
> STOP PUBLIC SCHOOL UNIFORMS -- IT'S YOUR FIGHT, MASON COUNTY!



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 07:23:08 PST 1996
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:58:06 -0700
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Sorry, retard, but here in Canada we use the British grammar and
spelling,
not the corrupted version used by the colonialists in the USA.

Get hold of any reputable English grammar text, such as Fowler, if you can
read, that is.

You might even learn some English, instead of yiddish, in the process.



On 24 Nov 1996, Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> Let me rub it in a little more:  
> its
> its adjective
> The possessive form of it
> Used as a modifier before a noun: The airline canceled its early
> flight to New York.
> [Alteration of it's : IT + -'S.]
> USAGE NOTE: ITS, THE POSSESSIVE FORM OF THE PRONOUN IT, IS NEVER
> WRITTEN WITH AN APOSTROPHE... [Emphasis mine.  JR]

> The American Heritage. Dictionary of the English Language, Third
> Edition copyright ) 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic
> version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved.

>  writes:

> >When you learn English, and then progress to English grammar, if you can
> >that is, you will learn about the possessive form of its'.

> >> >Southam News in Canada reports today, Saturday November 23 1996, in its'
> >> There is no such word as "its'", Grubby.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 07:38:50 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Am I racist?
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 12:27:09 -0700
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Actually he is just an artful tax dodger, who has finally decided to stop
supporting all the faggots in canada!!!



On 20 Nov 1996, Colin Newell wrote:

> >>In article <32880B6A.4909@pacbell.net>, Riess  wrote:
> >>>I'm a former Canadian.  I now live in America.  I hate Canadians.  Does
> >>>this make me racist?
> 
> 
> No. Your just a mindless troll.
> 
> 
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 07:38:51 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: "Street fight for Canada" by Jew Galganov.
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D-R Gooch is completely correct in all his points.



On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Daniel-Robert Gooch wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Nov 1996, Ken Quinn wrote:
> > In article <56qtkb$b5f@newsfeeder.total.net>,
> >    emdx@accent.net (Marc Dufour) wrote:

> > >You clearly show then that you are not interested in democracy and you
> > >only believe that Canada has the right to exist even if it has to
> > >crush the legitimate aspiration to nationhood of a quarter of it's
> > >people.

> > Ahem.... if you can remember back about 1 year, you will recall that we voted 
> > democratically (that is, over 90% of eligible voters cast a ballot) to stay in 
> > Canada. To say that Quebec has legitimate aspirations to nationhood is a 
> > blatant untruth and serves no purpose other than to create divisions.

> Quebecers have never voted yes in a referendum to aprove of staying
> in Canada.  Your suggestion that saying no to one thing means saying
> yes to something else shows a rather naive understanding of polls and
> referendums.  If I tell you tomorrow that I don't want to go to
> Vancouver on vacation, does it mean I want to stay in Quebec


Not only has Quebec never voted yes in a referendum to stay in
Canada.Neither have the residents of Alberta voted in a referendum to stay
in Canada.

That is why many westerners,such as in Alberta, support the sovereignty
association of those in Quebec.

The day that Quebec separates, so then can Alberta, which would leave the
socialists in Ontario freezing in the dark, unless they will pay world
prices for utilities!!!

Westerners are just plain fed up with the confiscatory taxes of Ottawa and
Toronto, draining our cash and resources just to benefit central Canada.

Like Quebec, Alberta has had enough!!!



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Subject: Re: "Street fight for Canada" by Jew Galganov.
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:34:25 -0700
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Danke Kurt. Ich bin ueberrascht, fuer ihre Bemuehung!!!



On 21 Nov 1996, Curt Springer wrote:
> acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca) ecrivait...

D-R Gooch is completely correct in all his points.

Not only has Quebec never voted yes in a referendum to stay in
Canada.Neither have the residents of Alberta voted in a referendum to stay
in Canada.

That is why many westerners,such as in Alberta, support the sovereignty
association of those in Quebec.

The day that Quebec separates, so then can Alberta, which would leave the
socialists in Ontario freezing in the dark, unless they will pay world
prices for utilities!!!

Westerners are just plain fed up with the confiscatory taxes of Ottawa and
Toronto, draining our cash and resources just to benefit central Canada.

Like Quebec, Alberta has had enough!!!

> I gotta hand it to ya.  This new tactic of sucking up looks like a winner!  I 
> see you're not calling them 'Frenchies' as you did in postings on other 
> newsgroups.  That's really smooth.  Also working in 'sovereignty association' 
> and vilifying Toronto along with Ottawa  -- slick!!

> I'm going to be on the edge of my seat as I read your followups -- dying to 
> know when and how you'll work up to the central fact that everything wrong in 
> this world is the fault of the nasty Jews.
> Dein Freund,
> Kurt  


Who know, you may be right in your closing comment, nicht wahr??



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Subject: Re: "Street fight for Canada" by Jew Galganov.
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 07:38:58 -0700
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Since it is the national media, especially the Black-owned Siutham group
that carries news articles almost every week about the swindles and such
involving the JEWS, does this mean that the Southam group does not like
the damn JEWS, or could it be that the media are just reporting the
TRUTH???





On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Jean-Yves Durocher wrote:
> One who is as tired as us all , Curt Springer wrote:
> >I'm going to be on the edge of my seat as I read your followups -- dying to 
> >know when and how you'll work up to the central fact that everything wrong in 
> >this world is the fault of the nasty Jews.
> >Dein Freund,
> >Kurt  

> Well, you do not have it right this time. On the French newsgroup, it
> is the Quebec Jews that are eating us alive; on the Chineese group,
> the Chineese Jews (they exist); and so on and so forth.

> Speaking of tothers... I would like to know where the RCMP is?
> Obviously, since they haven't arrested him, closed his account for
> hate propaganda, they must agree with the above paragraph.
> Jean-Yves Durocher
> durocher@together.net



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Marc Dufour, like most normal, rational residents of the sovereign
province of Quebec, is completely correct in his points.

It is only those "ethnics" and "certain moneyed interests" who seem to be
opposing the realistic desires and aspirations of the normal Quebecers.

And, Raymond Villeneuve at least has had the guts to identify those mainly
responsible for the problems of Quebec!!!





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Merci encore mpour plus publiser les mots de Luc Richard.



On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Luc Richard wrote:

> Cherchant d=E9sesp=E9remment des alli=E9s le *sp=E9cimen*
> tente d'amadouer certains contributeur de ce groupe de nouvelles
> et de les enfirouapp=E9s dans son racisme sans limite...
>=20
> Her f=FCrher acumen =E9crivait !
> acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> >=20
> > Marc Dufour, like most normal, rational residents of the sovereign
> > province of Quebec, is completely correct in his points.
> >=20
> > It is only those "ethnics" and "certain moneyed interests" who seem to =
be
> > opposing the realistic desires and aspirations of the normal Quebecers.
> >=20
> > And, Raymond Villeneuve at least has had the guts to identify those mai=
nly
> > responsible for the problems of Quebec!!!
>=20
>=20
> Nah...je ne vois aucune similitude entre tes =E9crits cher sp=E9cimen acu=
men=20
> et ceux de Marc Dufour.
> --=20
> Luc @ Anjou,=20
> " La d=E9claration unilat=E9rale d'ind=E9pendance est
>    l'ultime symbole de la libert=E9 d'un peuple."
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/lucanjou/homepage.htm
>=20
>=20



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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 09:29:33 -0700
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I find that many of your comments are either incorrect, or downright
lies!!!

Accordingly, I am correcting where appropriate.

> On 23 Nov 1996 jonhall@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> > : On Fri, 22 Nov 1996, echte Wahrheit wrote:

EFN is a BUSINESS run by a Company registered under the company laws of
Alberta, AND IS NOT A CHARITY.

> > EFN is registered as a NOT-FOR-PROFIT company under the company laws of
> > Alberta. This is a well recognized practice for agencies like EFN

You still did NOT answer my comment,but in fact more or less CONFIRM my
point - EFN IS ABUSINESS, NOT A CHARITY!!!

EFN operates in direct competition with legitimate businesses, who must
pay taxes, while EFN does not.

> > TAXES are paid on PROFITS. When EFN makes a PROFIT it would then pay
> > taxes. THOUSANDS of unprofitable businesses pay no taxes. HUNDREDS OF
> > ACCOUNTANTS are PAID BIG FEES to suggest how companies can reduce their
> > taxes SOMETIMES TO ZERO

Since you appear to know even less about Income Taxes and business than
most children, I will help you.

If you can read, then READ THE AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. 
These professionally prepared statements show an Excess of Revenue over
Expenses - that is a PROFIT, for the 13 months of $125,209!!!

It is not FREE, since members pay from $25 to $100 for the poor services
provided.

> > EFN is NOT FREE. Members must pay a MEMBERSHIP FEE to gain a voice in the
> > operation of the company and to use membership facilities. THOUSANDS of
> > other SOCIETIES, AGENCIES AND ASSOCIATIONS operate in the same way.
> > Non-members can use PUBLIC ACCESS TERMINALS for FREE. Non-members can dial
> > into the modem pool FOR FREE and access community data provided FREE and
> > at no charge. This access is FREE. Members are FREE to express their
> > opinions about EFN, the world around them and the way life treats them.  


I do not complain about the free access available to the public through
libraries and such. That is a contribution from the Public Library, one of
the financial sponsors.


EFN even though it is a BUSINESS, received $200,000 of TAXPAYER MONEY in
1994/5.

> > The federal LIBERALS designed the Canadian Infrastructure program and gave
> > away MILLIONS of dollars all across Canada. At the time the EFN grant was the
> > second smallest grant given in EDMONTON. MILLIONS OF DOLLARS were given to
> > Peter Pocklington for renovations to the PRIVATELY OPERATED COLLASIUM.


I was not commenting on what others may or may not have received.
I WAS referring to the $200,000 received by EFN, as certified by the
Auditors!!!


EFN somehow received the $200,000 through the Federal Infrastructure
Works Program, instead of the money going to legitimate infrastructure
programs such as roads, police,hospitals,etc.

> > The program had a special component for ELECTRONIC INFRASTRUCTURE. The
> > Blue Sky Community Network just RECEIVED A GRANT from the same program in
> > Manitoba. Libertel (FreeNet) in Montreal also recieved funds from the
> > provincial government.


Again,Jon, I was not concerned about what others may have received.

With the Edmonton Public Library desperately soliciting the public for
$1.6 millions just to keep operating, this $200,000 should have gone
DIRECTLY to the Library, which is infrastructure, and the Library would
have better used the funds!!!


In the first 13 months of operation,from 1st October 1994 to 31st
October 1995, according to the Report of the Auditors, Deloitte Touche,
they were able to identify Gross Revenue in 13 months of approximately
$425,000.00.

> > EFN was EXCEEDINGLY SUCCESSFUL in raising corporate and government funds
> > to support the operations of A COMMUNITY PUBLIC SERVICE. Hundreds of
> > agencies, associations and societies ALSO RECEIVE CORPORATE GRANTS
> > annually. In fact many agencies get together to fund raise from the
> > corporate community each year under the UNITED WAY BANNER. 


EFN is NOT a charity, and for you to compare the BUSINESS of EFN to that
of a charity such as United Way, is insulting to charities!!!


$200,000 of the $425,000 came from the stupid taxpayers.

> > ONLY $100,000 came from STUPID TAXPAYERS the rest came from HIGHLY
> > INTELLIGENT and community minded Canadian TAXPAYERS. :-)


YOU ARE PROVEN TO BE A LIAR, since the Auditors, Deloitte Touche have
stated, in writing, that EFN received the $200,000 from the Infrastructure
Works Program.

If you are unable to read, then get someone to read it to you from the
publicly available Financial Statements available on EFN!!!


The Auditors had to declare in their Report, that they were unable to
confirm all the revenue of the business, due to bad management.

> > AUDITORS routinely provide a QUALIFIED FINANCIAL STATEMENT for HUNDREDS of
> > agencies who recieve donation income. The cost of providing suitable
> > controls to provide an AUDIT TRAIL for such receipts often EXCEEDS THE
> > AMOUNT RECIEVED.


As you know I am a professional accountant with more than 35 years'
experience. IT IS NOT DIFFICULT, or even expensive, to install reasonably
adequate cash and assets controls, for any BUSINESS, if MANAGEMENT WANTS
IT!!


Who were the individuals identified in the Auditor's report, who
received almost $110,000.00 - in only 13 months -for alleged Consulting
Services,and Contracted Services?


> > The EFN did not have EMPLOYEES DURING THIS PERIOD. All paid workers were
> > engaged on a CONTRACT BASIS. This was an effective and COST EFFECTIVE way
> > to REDUCE the administrative overhead of the company. 


In other words, was the $200,000 of taxpayer money just used to line the
pockets of a couple of people??


Methinks, you doth protest too much about this point.

Could it be that YOU were a major beneficiary of the bulk of the $110,000?
Perhaps you will tell us how much YOU received, before being dumped???


> > The grant from the CANADA/ALBERTA INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM had very
> > specific contract terms on how the funds could be disbursed.. A small
> > percentage COULD BE SPEND ON MANAGEMENT AND STAFF COSTS. The program was
> > AUDITED to the satisfaction of the CITY, PROVINCIAL and FEDERAL
> > GOVERNMENTS when the funds were expended and the final report presented. 


I can assure you, that based on discussion with relevant FEDERAL
authorities, they are NOT satisfied with the published Audit of EFN. That
is why I am pushing for a strict investigation by the RCMP,if necessary.


In October 1995, at press conferences, Gross had bragged that membership
in EFN was around 9,000.

> > MONTREAL LIBERTEL just folded with only 1500 members. EDMONTON is a much
> > SMALLER CITY THAN MONTREAL and has over six times as many members. 

The Audited Financial Statements show Memberships revenue of only
$61,607, which seems to cover barely 4,000 members at the then rate of
$15.


> > What was the membership at October 31, 1995. This is the end of the PERIOD
> > REPORTED ON IN THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. Since the 9000 members is a
> > present number it DOES NOT SEEM UNUSUAL that the earlier number is lower.


Again, you are trying to draw red herrings, regarding the MISSING
$60,000!!!

I was referring to 31st October 1995, when Gross advised the media that
paid up membership was around 9,000. This should have shown as Member
Income of over $120,000 - not the $61,000 indicated by the Auditors!!!


In fact, Gross has admitted at the AGM that membership numbers are now
dropping alarmingly, from a high this summer of around 12,000 - to now a
loss of 2-4,000!!!


Even you, have failed to explain the alarming drop in membership NOW, when
it was 12,000 in the summer, now we have only around 8,000???

> > Citizens will be amazed to learn that there are now FEWER STUDENTS IN
> > SCHOOLS than a few years ago. Dr. DAVID FOOTE has explained in his recent
> > book that DEMOGRAPHICS CAN PREDICT 2/3 OF ALL CHANGES.


Completely irrelevant, as to why people are avoiding EFN!!!

What is the present paid up membership number?

> > 100% of the membership is FULLY PAID UP. 

The volunteers who work for free for this BUSINESS did not know this.

> > We should tell them. NO VOLUNTEER should be shielded from this knowledge.
> > THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW that members pay fees.


Had they known this, do you really think that people would work for
free, when the Manager gets who knows how much, under a secret contract,
which he and the Board refused to detail?  After all, the Executive
Director,Gross, is being paid from contributions from all the
volunteers, as well as the taxpayers of Canada - all of whom contributed
towards the taxpayers' $200,000.


> > 42 PERCENT of Albertans volunteers for some community agency, group or
> > association each year. This is the HIGHEST PERCENTAGE IN CANADA. Many of
> > these same volunteers work beside PAID EMPLOYEES in HUNDREDS of agencies
> > THROUGHOUT THE PROVINCE. some of the readers of this newsgroup have
> > WILLINGLY EXPOSED themselves to this SHOCKING SITUATION.


I feel that the taxpayers of Canada have been hoodwinked out of $200,00
by EFN.

> > The Federal Government department of WESTERN DIVERSIFICATION had no
> > concerns when they recieved the FINAL AUDITED REPORT of the program grant.


I recommend that the Federal Government SEIZE EFN, and sell it on the
open market to a competitor,and prosecute those responsible for its'
mismanagement.Don't let the Directors avoid their legal liabilities.


> > If the Government of Canada makes a regular practice of SIEZING THE
> > ASSETS OF PRIVATE BUSINESSES and reselling them  they would do well to
> > target LARGE FIRMS WITH LOTS OF VALUABLE ASSETS and leave the FreeNet
> > alone.


The data and figures provided were available at the Edmonton Freenet
Website,under AGM and Financial Statements, unless they have hurriedly
removed them.


> > Don't foret to look at the other data provided BY HUNDREDS OF INFORMATION
> > PROVIDERS as a public service to the CITIZENS OF EDMONTON. They continue
> > to demonstate the value of having a FreeNet in Edmonton. Canada is now the
> > leader in the Community Networking movement as demonstrated at an
> > INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE in Taos New Mexico which was NOT ATTENDED by any
> > member of the EFN Board or staff. 


I am not commenting on the alleged worth of an EFN as a so-called public
service, duplicating the services of private operators of ISP's in
Deadmonton, WITHOUT $200,000 boondoggled from the public.


I am pushing various federal authorities for a full expose and
investigation regarding mismanagement and other irregularities involving
EFN.


By the way, I notice that you avoided commenting on my observation, from a
volunteer who worked at EFN, regarding DEFECTIVE EQUIPMENT(modems). Could
it be that YOU may have been involved in this problem?


I see that you also refused to comment on the allegation from others,
regarding EFN being used to pay for equipment now used by another
operation. Why did you not answer to this point? Were you involved in this
matter, that you do not want to answer legitimate questions,now?



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 07:38:58 PST 1996
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From: 
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Subject: Re: A racist document!
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:18:10 -0700
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Do you realise, that by asking about the TRUTH, you may be receiving a
visit from the jewish rights police?

Some lazy parasites feel that it is their right to live off the
public,without ever having to pay taxes.

Mind you, they are supported in this stand by liars/lawyers of a certain
ethnicity, who themselves are parasites living off their clients.

All of the parasites live off the taxes and payments from normal residents
in Canada.



On 23 Nov 1996 intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> Let me try this.  Hey, immigrants, give me lots of money.  I was here
> first.  I want you to spend $250,000 every year on my family.  I don't
> want to pay taxes, you do.  I want free education, free housing, and
> preferential hiring in all jobs, if I want to work.  I want free repairs
> on my house, and lots of grants and goodies.  Give it to me now immigrant,
> or I'll get violent.  
> 
> When the whites say this it is racist, when the Indians say this its human
> rights.  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 07:38:59 PST 1996
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From: 
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Subject: Re: ACUMEN TRIES AGAIN TO FUCK UP A NEWSGROUP
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 18:19:32 -0700
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It seems the pervert who lives in a toilet, and can not speak English is
having his LSD hallucinations again.

He just does not like news stories from the Canadian Southam Group of
newspapers.

Why he hates the owners of the Jerusalem Post, the Black bothers, Brown or
Bronstein has never explained.

Cpould it be that it just does not like to read about the TRUTH, even from
Canadian media?



On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Tim Brown wrote:

>  writes:
> 
> >Southam News in Canada reports today, Saturday November 23 1996, in its'
> >newspapers agross Canada that the Jews are again trying to close down the
> >ZUNDELSITE on WWW.
> 
> Acumen is actually William Grosvenor, who has already fucked up
> soc.culture.singapore with his Nazi-style wackoism.  He is a certifiable
> loon with a petrified wad of chewing gum for brains.
>    You can find two whole pages about him:
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/gruber-10q.html
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/grosvenor.william
> 
>    Help stop the fascist scum from polluting the Internet!
> -- 
> bathroom@iglou.com   http://members.iglou.com/bathroom
> STOP PUBLIC SCHOOL UNIFORMS -- IT'S YOUR FIGHT, MASON COUNTY!
> Fight the Leis/Moon conspiracy!
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 07:39:00 PST 1996
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From: 
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Subject: Re: Grosvenor demonstrates ignorance.  Film at 11
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:58:06 -0700
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Sorry, retard, but here in Canada we use the British grammar and
spelling,
not the corrupted version used by the colonialists in the USA.

Get hold of any reputable English grammar text, such as Fowler, if you can
read, that is.

You might even learn some English, instead of yiddish, in the process.



On 24 Nov 1996, Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> Let me rub it in a little more:  
> its
> its adjective
> The possessive form of it
> Used as a modifier before a noun: The airline canceled its early
> flight to New York.
> [Alteration of it's : IT + -'S.]
> USAGE NOTE: ITS, THE POSSESSIVE FORM OF THE PRONOUN IT, IS NEVER
> WRITTEN WITH AN APOSTROPHE... [Emphasis mine.  JR]

> The American Heritage. Dictionary of the English Language, Third
> Edition copyright ) 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic
> version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved.

>  writes:

> >When you learn English, and then progress to English grammar, if you can
> >that is, you will learn about the possessive form of its'.

> >> >Southam News in Canada reports today, Saturday November 23 1996, in its'
> >> There is no such word as "its'", Grubby.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 07:39:01 PST 1996
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Your observations tell the truth, not the proaganda disseminated by the
socialist/communist PC press in Canada.

Those who complain about you, such as the parasitic students in retirmenet
village Victoria, or the welfare bums in Deadmonton, Ottawa and the like,
are ENVIOUS of your success.

They would prefer to be parasites on the public welfare, until they die of
their homosexual diseases.

Keep on telling all the ignorant Canadians about your success in the
glorious free-enterprise USA, where one is only limited by one's
ambitions!!!



On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Riess wrote:

> Colin Newell wrote:
> > 
> > >>In article <32880B6A.4909@pacbell.net>, Riess  wrote:
> > >>>I'm a former Canadian.  I now live in America.  I hate Canadians.  Does
> > >>>this make me racist?
> > 
> > No. Your just a mindless troll.
> 
> But a mindless troll that loathes all things Candian and all that Canada
> stands for.  It is this loathing that has propelled my career to the
> point that I now (at the age of 23) earn more than most people twice my
> age (as a software engineer), drive a Porsche, live in Westwood (a
> relatively upscale area of Los Angeles, next to Beverly Hills), and have
> potential employers calling me daily.  Proof's in the pudding, pal. 
> Seems that despising Canadianism, and achieving career/financial sucess
> go together.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> 



From wahrheit@concentric.net Mon Nov 25 07:41:31 PST 1996
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From: echte Wahrheit 
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Subject: TAX DEPT. & RCMP SHOULD INVESTIGATE EDMONTON FREENET!!!
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Revenue Canada Taxation - Special Investigations, as well as the RCMP
should both be investigating the BUSINESS calling itself Edmonton
Freenet (EFN).
EFN is a BUSINESS run by a Company registered under the company laws of
Alberta, AND IS NOT A CHARITY.


EFN operates in direct competition with legitimate businesses, who must
pay taxes, while EFN does not.

It is not FREE, since members pay from $25 to $100 for the poor services
provided.

EFN even though it is a BUSINESS, received $200,000 of TAXPAYER MONEY in
1994/5.

EFN somehow received the $200,000 through the Federal Infrastructure
Works Program, instead of the money going to legitimate infrastructure
programs such as roads, police,hospitals,etc.

In the first 13 months of operation, from 1st October 1994 to 31st
October 1995, according to the Report of the Auditors, Deloitte Touch,
they were able to identify Gross Revenue in 13 months of approximately
$425,000.00.

$200,000 of the $425,000 came from the stupid taxpayers.

The Auditors had to declare in their Report, that they were unable to
confirm all the revenue of the business, due to bad management.

This damaging report and the attached financial statements, for which
the Auditors charged $11,000, about the bad management of EFN had been
deliberately withheld from the members and the public, from April 1996
when it was finalised, until the AGM held on 22nd October 1996 - a year
after the financial year end!!!

The Executive Director and the Board of Directors deliberately refused
to answer relevant questions from the almost 100 members in attendance
at the AGM on 22nd October 1996.

What is even worse, the Board even refused to admit as new Members of
the Board, 4 eligible candidates who had been properly nominated in
accordance with both the Bylaws,and the Nomination Forms. Those
attending were told by the Chairlady that the old Board did not want the
new Board members!!!Threats of legal action against the old, appointed
Board then finally forced the oldad to allow the 4 new board members to
be admitted,thus increasing the Board from 8 to 12 . The 4 new board
members in fact were acclaimed by all present,apart from the old Board.

Some of other financial irregularies refused answers by Keith
Gross,so-called executive director,and the old Board included:

Who were the individuals identified in the Auditor's report, who
received almost $110,000.00 - in only 13 months -for alleged Consulting
Services,and Contracted Services?

In October 1995, at press conferences, Gross had bragged that membership
in EFN was around 9,000.
The Audited Financial Statements show Memberships revenue of only
$61,607, which seems to cover barely 4,000 members at the then rate of
$15.
What has happened to the missing $60,000, which does not seem to be
accounted for?

In fact, Gross has admitted at the AGM that membership numbers are now
dropping alarming, from a high this summer of around 12,000 - to now a
loss of 2-4,000!!!
What is the present paid up membership number?

Over the past few weeks, in local newsgroups, a technical person working
on the EFN equipment has bluntly stated that the modems instead of being
quality modems with a speed of around 14,400 or higher, seem to be
antique, highly defective 2400 baud modems!!

This technician has further detailed an unacceptable defect rate of over
13% - basically unheard of in the communications industry, unless they
were damaged second-hand goods.

The technician has also questioned whether in fact, EFN was used, with
taxpayer money, to buy expensive equipment taken over by another
business, called Software Alberta Society. EFN management have refused
to answer these points.

In fact, at the AGM, the Board was asked to provide details of the
entire equipment inventory, detailing who authorised the purchases, the
makes,models,and serial numbers of equipment, from whom purchased,and at
what prices.Gross, and the Board refused this information at the AGM.

Now, to add insult to injury, the Audited Financial Statements prove
that EFN neither used the $200,000 of taxpayer money, nor EVEN NEEDED
IT!!!

The Audited Financial Statements for 31st October 1995,(13 months),
shows that $168,032 was not needed!!! $SURPLUS(profit) of $125,209, plus
a non-cash item for amortisation of $42,823.

The volunteers who work for free for this BUSINESS did not know this. 

Had they known this, do you really think that people would work for
free, when the Manager gets who knows how much, under a secret contract,
which he and the Board refused to detail?  After all, the Executive
Director,Gross, is being paid from contributions from all the
volunteers, as well as the taxpayers of Canada - all of whom contributed
towards the taxpayers' $200,000.

I feel that the taxpayers of Canada have been hoodwinked out of $200,00
by EFN.

I recommend that the Federal Government SEIZE EFN, and sell it on the
open market to a competitor,and prosecute those responsible for its'
mismanagement.

Critics of government boondoggles, such as the Canadian Taxpayers
Federation, the Auditor-General of Canada, and the Reform Party should
be annoyed enough to perhaps get the Tax Department and perhaps even the
RCMP on the case.

The data and figures provided were available at the Edmonton Freenet
Website,under AGM and Financial Statements, unless they have hurriedly
removed them.


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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 08:06:19 -0700
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Could it be that Kevin is finally showing his true colours??

On the other hand, most Albertans may agree with him, particularly when it
comes to photo radar!!!



On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Kevin Auld wrote:

> I'll probably get in trouble for this, but I figure a pig's a pig, no matter 
> what he wears on his head. :)
> 
> 
> Kevin Auld
> Bon Accord Alberta Canada
> 
> The Bon Accordian
> 
> The usual disclaimers apply
> 
> I can only do overtures because I don't know how to
> conduct myself
> 
> "In a little while it will be over. We may fail.
> But the rights for which we contend will not die."
> Louis Riel, 1885
> 
> 
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 07:42:33 PST 1996
Article: 85419 of can.politics
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Subject: CANADA PREFERS CRIMINALS - even war criminals
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 12:37:12 -0700
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The article below is just more proof that Canada prefers criminals as
immigrants, then and now.



On Sat, 23 Nov 1996 aptrent@atreide.net wrote:
> Montreal, Quebec, CANADA,
> The Montreal Gazette, Friday 22 November, 1996
> http://www.montrealgazette.com/city4.html

Private eye gets his men, Says 58 Nazi collaborators in Canada (25 in Montreal)

A private investigator hunting Nazi collaborators in Canada says he
has duped dozens of suspected war criminals into providing him with
taped confessions of their wartime atrocities against Jews. (...)

Irving Abella, chairman of the Canadian Jewish Congress's war-crime
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
committee, said he found it incredible " that one person working with
meager resources had little trouble tracking down and getting
confessions from alledged Nazi war criminals, while for 50 years the
Canadian government has done very little. Following the war it was
easier to immigrate to Canada  if you were a Nazi than a Jewish
survivor of the Holocaust." (...)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
As there has been many wars in many different places around the globe,
with as many different targetted victims, since the end of the Second
World War.Is it possible, probable, that Canada kept being as
generous towards other war criminals than towards their victims?
 
Where there war criminals in South-Africa under the apartheid regime?
If so...
Paul Rodgers



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 07:42:34 PST 1996
Article: 85485 of can.politics
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Subject: Re: TAX DEPT. & RCMP SHOULD INVESTIGATE EDMONTON FREENET!!!
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Actually, your recommendation that we drop those responsible for the
$200,000 boondoggle of taxpayer money, which improperly went to the
BUSINESS operating Edmonton Freenet, sound GREAT.

I will include it in future lists, for the extermination of serious
criminals and the like.

It is a little less painful than using them for target practice, but then
we can all study the physics of the splat problem, or something.

Hope that you will attend the Town Hall Meeting Sunday, trying to get some
TRUE FACTS from the so-called manager.



On 23 Nov 1996 cara@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:
> : In article <3294B11D.7FF0@concentric.net> echte Wahrheit  writes:

> : >Revenue Canada Taxation - Special Investigations, as well as the RCMP
> : >should both be investigating the BUSINESS calling itself Edmonton
> : >Freenet (EFN).

> Never-the-less; The ledger must balance. This isn't the Government...
> Errr...something wrong there too.
> Lets drop them all from transport planes, and let God save the ones he
> wants! Or does that sound too much like the original postor?



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Mon Nov 25 07:42:35 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: CANADA PREFERS CRIMINALS - even war criminals
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 09:28:06 -0700
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Just to correct some lies from the maggot in Malaysia using the alias of a
nordic person Jensen.



On Sun, 24 Nov 1996, Bjorn Vang Jensen wrote:
> acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

The article below is just more proof that Canada prefers criminals as
immigrants, then and now.

On Sat, 23 Nov 1996 aptrent@atreide.net wrote:
Montreal, Quebec, CANADA,
The Montreal Gazette, Friday 22 November, 1996
http://www.montrealgazette.com/city4.html

Private eye gets his men, Says 58 Nazi collaborators in Canada (25 in Montreal)

> Glad to see William Grosvenor publically admitting that there is such a
> thing as a Nazi war criminal. That's a first. Filed for future
> reference.


Your statement above is another LIE, as usual from such perverts as you
are.  I DO  NOT  ADMIT that there is such a thing as a Nazi war criminal.

I do admit that there are JEWISH WAR CRIMINALS, such as the JEWS who
murdered the defenceless EGYPTIAN MUSLIMS in 1956. This is being discussed
in Israel and worldwide,and is well documented.

Why are you not commenting on the JEWISH WAR CRIMINALS WHO MURDERED
MUSLIMS? Could it be that you support the slaughter of Muslims, even while
you live in a Muslim country??

As there has been many wars in many different places around the globe,
with as many different targetted victims, since the end of the Second
World War.Is it possible, probable, that Canada kept being as
generous towards other war criminals than towards their victims?

> Interestingly, William Grosvenor has previously admitted that he came to
> Canada shortly after WW2. This, by the way, is the same "gentleman" who
> gets up in arms over the attempted closure of a Neo Nazi internet site.
> It is also the same gentleman who wants to emigrate to South America
> (home of an unusually large amount of quite old Germans), and states as
> one of his reasons the fact that South and Central America have much
> more sensible policies towards the "damn Jews". Draw your own
> conclusions.

South America has been home to hundreds of thousands of Germans and
Austrians since the start of the 1900's, and that is why they are
flourishing there.



From wahrheit@concentric.net Mon Nov 25 07:45:55 PST 1996
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From: echte Wahrheit 
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Subject: Re: TAX DEPT. & RCMP SHOULD INVESTIGATE EDMONTON FREENET!!!
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Revenue Canada Taxation - Special Investigations, as well as the RCMP
should both be investigating the BUSINESS calling itself Edmonton
Freenet (EFN).

EFN is a BUSINESS run by a Company registered under the company laws of
Alberta, AND IS NOT A CHARITY.
 
EFN operates in direct competition with legitimate businesses, who must
pay taxes, while EFN does not.
 
It is not FREE, since members pay from $25 to $100 for the poor services
provided.
 
EFN even though it is a BUSINESS, received $200,000 of TAXPAYER MONEY in
1994/5.
 
EFN somehow received the $200,000 through the Federal Infrastructure
Works Program, instead of the money going to legitimate infrastructure
programs such as roads, police,hospitals,etc.
 
In the first 13 months of operation, from 1st October 1994 to 31st
October 1995, according to the Report of the Auditors, Deloitte Touch,
they were able to identify Gross Revenue in 13 months of approximately
$425,000.00.
 
$200,000 of the $425,000 came from the stupid taxpayers.
 
The Auditors had to declare in their Report, that they were unable to
confirm all the revenue of the business, due to bad management.
 
This damaging report and the attached financial statements, for which
the Auditors charged $11,000, about the bad management of EFN had been
deliberately withheld from the members and the public, from April 1996
when it was finalised, until the AGM held on 22nd October 1996 - a year
after the financial year end!!!
 
The Executive Director and the Board of Directors deliberately refused
to answer relevant questions from the almost 100 members in attendance
at the AGM on 22nd October 1996.
 
What is even worse, the Board even refused to admit as new Members of
the Board, 4 eligible candidates who had been properly nominated in
accordance with both the Bylaws,and the Nomination Forms. Those
attending were told by the Chairlady that the old Board did not want the
new Board members!!!Threats of legal action against the old, appointed
Board then finally forced the oldad to allow the 4 new board members to
be admitted,thus increasing the Board from 8 to 12 . The 4 new board
members in fact were acclaimed by all present,apart from the old Board.
 
Some of other financial irregularies refused answers by Keith
Gross,so-called executive director,and the old Board included:
 
Who were the individuals identified in the Auditor's report, who
received almost $110,000.00 - in only 13 months -for alleged Consulting
Services,and Contracted Services?
 
In October 1995, at press conferences, Gross had bragged that membership
in EFN was around 9,000.

The Audited Financial Statements show Memberships revenue of only
$61,607, which seems to cover barely 4,000 members at the then rate of
$15.

What has happened to the missing $60,000, which does not seem to be
accounted for?
 
In fact, Gross has admitted at the AGM that membership numbers are now
dropping alarming, from a high this summer of around 12,000 - to now a
loss of 2-4,000!!!
What is the present paid up membership number?
 
Over the past few weeks, in local newsgroups, a technical person working
on the EFN equipment has bluntly stated that the modems instead of being
quality modems with a speed of around 14,400 or higher, seem to be
antique, highly defective 2400 baud modems!!
 
This technician has further detailed an unacceptable defect rate of over
13% - basically unheard of in the communications industry, unless they
were damaged second-hand goods.
 
The technician has also questioned whether in fact, EFN was used, with
taxpayer money, to buy expensive equipment taken over by another
business, called Software Alberta Society. EFN management have refused
to answer these points.
 
In fact, at the AGM, the Board was asked to provide details of the
entire equipment inventory, detailing who authorised the purchases, the
makes,models,and serial numbers of equipment, from whom purchased,and at
what prices.Gross, and the Board refused this information at the AGM.
 
Now, to add insult to injury, the Audited Financial Statements prove
that EFN neither used the $200,000 of taxpayer money, nor EVEN NEEDED
IT!!!
 
The Audited Financial Statements for 31st October 1995,(13 months),
shows that $168,032 was not needed!!! $SURPLUS(profit) of $125,209, plus
a non-cash item for amortisation of $42,823.
 
The volunteers who work for free for this BUSINESS did not know this.
 
Had they known this, do you really think that people would work for
free, when the Manager gets who knows how much, under a secret contract,
which he and the Board refused to detail?  After all, the Executive
Director,Gross, is being paid from contributions from all the
volunteers, as well as the taxpayers of Canada - all of whom contributed
towards the taxpayers' $200,000.
 
I feel that the taxpayers of Canada have been hoodwinked out of $200,00
by EFN.
 
I recommend that the Federal Government SEIZE EFN, and sell it on the
open market to a competitor,and prosecute those responsible for its'
mismanagement.Don't let the Directors avoid their legal liabilities.
 
Critics of government boondoggles, such as the Canadian Taxpayers
Federation, the Auditor-General of Canada, and the Reform Party should
be annoyed enough to perhaps get the Tax Department and perhaps even the
RCMP on the case.
 
The data and figures provided were available at the Edmonton Freenet
Website,under AGM and Financial Statements, unless they have hurriedly
removed them.


From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Nov 26 07:40:38 PST 1996
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Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 07:20:21 -0700
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If Galganov is a Jew,and uses the Canadian Jewish Congress to tout for his
views and assist him, why should the true Quebecois not revile this attack
on their culture?

Quite apart from the fact that Galganov seems to be breaking the laws of
Quebec and Alberta in selling shares of his business without legal
authority from the Quebec Securities Commission, or Alberta Securities
Commission.



On 13 Nov 1996 jmosevich@aol.com wrote:

> This thread is a perfect example of the hypocracy of Canadians who
> constatntly tout thier superiority by being so tolerant. Yet the
> anti-semitism shine through loud and clear.  What a sorry country.....
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Nov 26 07:40:39 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: PROPERTY RIGHTS vs. Faggot Rights
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 18:43:22 -0700
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If statscan actually released the TRUE figures for deaths of faggots from
AIDS, the number is so small, that all the faggots and their lovers would
no longer be able to swindle the public for funds!!!

Mind you, the only good faggot, is a dead one, because then it no longer
presents a health risk for normal people.



On 15 Nov 1996, bochum26 wrote:
> ve6yj@compusmart.ab.ca wrote in article
> <56e783$j30_001@compusmart.ab.ca>...
> > In article <56eb1m$12he@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca>,
> >    siller@freaknet.calgary.ab.ca (Paul Siller) wrote:
> > >Oddly enough Presently, 50% of women with HIV received it from hetero
> > >sex.
> > 
> > Finish the sentence .... after their stud-muffins came from sharing
> needles 
> > and ...... hold on for it ...
> > 
> > cha C H I N G ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
> > 
> > .. butt-holin' other guys ....
> 
> Amazing how the homosexual lobby loves to keep perpetuating this myth. 
> They really show their true colour - lack of integrity when it comes to the
> aids issue.  They sure hesitate to release Canadian aids records don't
> they?
> 
> I guess the death of homosexual men doesn't seem to weigh very heavy on
> their souless minds..



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Nov 26 07:40:40 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: A racist document!
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Do you realise, that by asking about the TRUTH, you may be receiving a
visit from the jewish rights police?

Some lazy parasites feel that it is their right to live off the
public,without ever having to pay taxes.

Mind you, they are supported in this stand by liars/lawyers of a certain
ethnicity, who themselves are parasites living off their clients.

All of the parasites live off the taxes and payments from normal residents
in Canada.



On 23 Nov 1996 intphase@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote:

> Let me try this.  Hey, immigrants, give me lots of money.  I was here
> first.  I want you to spend $250,000 every year on my family.  I don't
> want to pay taxes, you do.  I want free education, free housing, and
> preferential hiring in all jobs, if I want to work.  I want free repairs
> on my house, and lots of grants and goodies.  Give it to me now immigrant,
> or I'll get violent.  
> 
> When the whites say this it is racist, when the Indians say this its human
> rights.  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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It seems the pervert who lives in a toilet, and can not speak English is
having his LSD hallucinations again.

He just does not like news stories from the Canadian Southam Group of
newspapers.

Why he hates the owners of the Jerusalem Post, the Black bothers, Brown or
Bronstein has never explained.

Cpould it be that it just does not like to read about the TRUTH, even from
Canadian media?



On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Tim Brown wrote:

>  writes:
> 
> >Southam News in Canada reports today, Saturday November 23 1996, in its'
> >newspapers agross Canada that the Jews are again trying to close down the
> >ZUNDELSITE on WWW.
> 
> Acumen is actually William Grosvenor, who has already fucked up
> soc.culture.singapore with his Nazi-style wackoism.  He is a certifiable
> loon with a petrified wad of chewing gum for brains.
>    You can find two whole pages about him:
> 
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/grosvenor-william/gruber-10q.html
> http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi?people/g/grosvenor.william
> 
>    Help stop the fascist scum from polluting the Internet!
> -- 
> bathroom@iglou.com   http://members.iglou.com/bathroom
> STOP PUBLIC SCHOOL UNIFORMS -- IT'S YOUR FIGHT, MASON COUNTY!
> Fight the Leis/Moon conspiracy!
> 
> 



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Tue Nov 26 07:40:42 PST 1996
Article: 102216 of soc.culture.canada
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Subject: Re: Grosvenor demonstrates ignorance.  Film at 11
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 08:58:06 -0700
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Sorry, retard, but here in Canada we use the British grammar and
spelling,
not the corrupted version used by the colonialists in the USA.

Get hold of any reputable English grammar text, such as Fowler, if you can
read, that is.

You might even learn some English, instead of yiddish, in the process.



On 24 Nov 1996, Joel Rosenberg wrote:
> Let me rub it in a little more:  
> its
> its adjective
> The possessive form of it
> Used as a modifier before a noun: The airline canceled its early
> flight to New York.
> [Alteration of it's : IT + -'S.]
> USAGE NOTE: ITS, THE POSSESSIVE FORM OF THE PRONOUN IT, IS NEVER
> WRITTEN WITH AN APOSTROPHE... [Emphasis mine.  JR]

> The American Heritage. Dictionary of the English Language, Third
> Edition copyright ) 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic
> version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved.

>  writes:

> >When you learn English, and then progress to English grammar, if you can
> >that is, you will learn about the possessive form of its'.

> >> >Southam News in Canada reports today, Saturday November 23 1996, in its'
> >> There is no such word as "its'", Grubby.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Thu Nov 28 07:36:44 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: DO  JEWS  RUN/CONTROL   QUEBEC?
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:43:07 -0700
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Are you so obtuse, that you fail to consider the effect of the JEW
BRONFMAN, illegally moving more than 2.2 BILLION dollars from Quebec,
without paying the Income Taxes on it?

Have you failed to consider the tens of thousands of unemployed Quebecers
as a result?

Have you not read about the Canadian Jewish Congress forcing the
resignation of the Quebec Lieutenant-Governor?

Have you not read about the activities of Howard Galganov, formerly with
the terrorist group called Jewish Defence League?



On Tue, 26 Nov 1996 rcf@inetworld.net wrote:
> On 23 Nov 1996 18:00:56 GMT, root@tailor.aleim.net (root) wrote:
> >On 23 Nov 1996 05:26:32 GMT, psychocop2@aol.com  wrote:
> >>Well, Jesus is Jewish, so I suppose Jews control the entire Christian
> >>world.  
> >>Of course, you could hug trees instead.  Then the plants will control you.

> >The Jewish community is often the most visible component of the local
> >secret communist membership, dominated by the United States secret
> >communists.  But, having visited Montreal recently, I can assure you
> >that the local francophone community is well in the hands of the
> >secret communists as well.




From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Thu Nov 28 07:43:43 PST 1996
Article: 43986 of alt.skinheads
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Subject: HOMOS - The Cure!!
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:18:58 -0700
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The only cure for faggots is instant cremation!!!

Then one gets rid of both their AIDS and the useless faggot.

Have you already forgotten that AIDS was spread worldwide, deliberately,
by the Canadian faggot with Air Canada??

This is well documented in the book "AND THE BAND PLAYED ON".



On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Josh King wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Laura Fleagle wrote:
> > Erik wrote:
> > > I'm amazed at the ammount of homophobia there is here.  This is the
> > > 21st century already

> > I've been thinking the same thing.  I hope and pray that all the violent, 
> > hate-filled, anti-gay posts I've been reading are nothing more than posters with 
> > too much time on their hands, trying to ignite a multi-newsgroup flame war.  It 
> > terrifies me to think that these people might actually believe what they'be been 
> > posting.  It's one thing to believe, because of religious views, that 
> > homosexuality is wrong. (I wholeheartedly disagree with this view, but I do think 
> > everyone has a right to their religious convictions).  But to actually advocate 
> > TORTURING and KILLING homosexuals in order to "teach them a lesson"?  Don't you 
> > dare use Christianity to justify that.  I'm not a religious person myself, but I 
> > do know that Jesus taught love, not hate.  People like this are why we still need 
> > separate laws (and harsher punishments) for hate crimes.



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Thu Nov 28 09:17:16 PST 1996
Article: 110463 of alt.censorship
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Subject: Tim Brown hates education and  intelligence?
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:41:17 -0700
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Could it be that Tim Brown, Bronstein, or whatever alias he is using now,
JUST DID NOT WANT TO PAY HIS SHARE OF THE SCHOOL TAXES?

Was that because he did not want an education, at any price, but preferred
to remain the illiterate lout he is?

It seems that Mr.Manson told the truth, which offended the likes of Tim,
living in his tandas(outhouse) as he does.

Also, you will note that Tim does not like students to be properly
attired, as they are in most civilised countries.

> On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Tim Brown wrote:
> > jmanso19@skypoint.com (Jim "Spittle King" Manson) writes:
Now, now Tim- stop lying.

> > I'm not the liar here, you are.  You cost the taxpayers of Campbell County
> > thousands of dollars EACH because you trashed my effort to get the school
> > tax repealed by spouting off all this drivel that wasn't true.  You owe
> > thousands of residents a large sum of money for this.

Um- Gee Tim, looks like you wrote it all right.

> > I was quoted out of context, as usual.
> > bathroom@iglou.com   http://members.iglou.com/bathroom
> > STOP PUBLIC SCHOOL UNIFORMS -- IT'S YOUR FIGHT, MASON COUNTY!



From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sat Nov 30 11:27:11 PST 1996
Article: 82591 of alt.revisionism
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Subject: Jews and Black Slavery
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 18:28:57 -0700
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On Thu, 28 Nov 1996 lhl@tiac.net wrote:
> Julien HALFON wrote:
> > lhl@tiac.net wrote:

> > > > Were Jews involved in the slave trade or not? Was their
> > > > involvement in anyway to be considered acceptable
> > > > behaviour?

> > > > Ray Wood

I am not qualified to answer the question.  However, their are scholars
who have commented extensively on the subject and buried their findings
in articles and books deep in the historical journals and archives.  The
Nation of Islam examined those records and produced a book called The
Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews, Vol. 1 with the intention
of demonstrating that Jewish scholars have always written exactly what
you and I are being called "anti-Semites" for merely repeating.  You can
obtain this book at
http://www.tiac.net/users/lhl

In the mean time, to answer your question I defer to Dr. Marc Lee
Raphael who is the editor of the most prestigious of the scholarly
journals to which I referred, American Jewish History, the journal of
the American Jewish Historical Society at Brandeis University in
Massachusetts.

"Jews also took an active part in the Dutch colonial slave trade;
indeed, the bylaws of the Recife and Mauricia congregations (1648)
included an imposta (Jewish tax) of five soldos for each Negro slave a
Brazilian Jew purchased from the West Indies Company. Slave auctions
were postponed if they fell on a Jewish holiday. 

In Curacao in the seventeenth century, as well as in the British colonies 
of Barbados and Jamaica in the eighteenth century, Jewish merchants played 
a major role in the slave trade. In fact, in all the American colonies, 
whether French (Martinique), British, or Dutch, Jewish merchants frequently
dominated.


"This was no less true on the North American mainland, where during the
eighteenth century Jews participated in the 'triangular trade' that
brought slaves from Africa to the West Indies and there exchanged them
for molasses, which in turn was taken to New England and converted into
rum for sale in Africa. Isaac Da Costa of Charleston in the 1750's,
David Franks of Philadelphia in the 1760's, and Aaron Lopez of Newport
in the late 1760's and early 1770's dominated Jewish slave trading on
the American continent."

Jews and Judaism in the United States a Documentary History (New York:
Behrman House, Inc., Pub, 1983), p. 14.




From acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Sat Nov 30 11:27:12 PST 1996
Article: 82667 of alt.revisionism
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Subject: Re: Re: Australia's Immigration Regulations and racism
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:30:46 -0700
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Could it be that most European potential immigrants are so brainwashed
into expecting communist/socialist lifestyles, that they do not have the
vision, and hard work attitudes of the Asian emigrating to Australia?

Many Asians, who had previously considered Canada, found out that they
would be getting swindled, and have now chosen Australia as an acceptable
alternative.



On Wed, 27 Nov 1996, Simon J. Elliott wrote:
> > If Australia by preference wants to lure rich HK Chinese into the
> > country instead of attracting skilled European migrants that's a
> > sovereign decision and must be respected.

> The skills that Australia wants most is the skill called "making money":
> ie business skills, international skills, foreign language skills. The
> rich HK businessmen demonstrate their skill by their money, and bring in
> much needed capital. Anyone with enough money can come, including you, Dr
> Kissler.

> > I am afraid that an increasing influx of Asian migrants (first business
> > migration followed by family migration) might "asianise"  the until
> > today western Australian society beyond the "eskimo point".
> > (The "eskimo problem" refers to the situation where an ethnic minority
> > eventually propagates to such an extend that their culture pits against
> > the culture of the host).

> this assumes that the "invading" culture does not mix. Australia has the
> highest "outmarriage" rate in the world, and many new immigrant's children
> marry outside their ethnic group. Thus, it changes the blend, rather than
> creating a "different society". Besides, most migrants are very
> "westernized" (have you been to Singapore or HK? they NOT illiterate
> peasants), and are still in a distinct minority such that they are more
> likely to be influenced than influence Aust culture. Its not like we have 
> a million rich HK businessmen suddenly turning up at the airport. 

> > This is a stricly logical conclusion and should not be interpreted as
> > racism.

> Logical if you assume various facts which I do not

> > Why not encourage skilled migration from Europe ?

> WE do! What do YOU have that we want? I know several skilled European
> migrants.

> > Bernd Kissler, Holland
> > Immigration to Australia web site:
> > http://www.dataweb.nl/~bekissler/index.html




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