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From acumen@compusmart.ab.ca Fri Apr 19 08:22:17 PDT 1996
Article: 43611 of bc.general
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From: William Grosvenor 
Newsgroups: bc.general
Subject: WARNING-UNQUALIFIED CGA ACCOUNTANTS!!!
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 07:53:28 +0700
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CONCERN TO ACCOUNTING STUDENTS,ACCOUNTANTS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC-
CGA'S IN CANADA - WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEM?


Over the past year, national media have been filling the news with 
stories of scandals involving prominent CERTIFIED GENERAL ACCOUNTANTS 
(CGA's) in Canada.

The Vancouver Sun and other national media recently carried banner 
headlines regarding Roman Evancic CGA and FCGA, who had got himself 
SHOT!!.This was apparently in connection with some business partner 
and a collections problem. The news reported that the assailant said,
as he shot Evancic:"I'm from your stock brokers. I understand you 
ripped him off."(per Vancouver Sun)

In Alberta last summer, the media had a field day, reporting on the 
fact that the Past President of CGA Alberta, a CGA and FCGA, was 
under investigation on a complaint by the HONGKONG BANK to the RCMP 
Commercial Crime Division. The HK Bank was complaining about 
William Mearns, who had been for 12 years the Controller/Treasurer 
of the County of Red Deer, Alberta.

At the end of 1995, without any advice to the general public or even 
to Members of CGA Alberta, Mearns was allowed to SECRETLY RESIGN both
his CGA and FCGA designations. This seems a first for Canada, where
an FCGA surrenders what was supposed to be a prestigious designation.

Mind you, Mearns got his FCGA for his work in 1987-1988, where he was
involved in admitting to CGA Alberta  unqualified bookkeepers,who were
given the CGA designation,with no requirement for qualifications,
education,experience,NO EXAMS,or even requiring upgrading courses to
bring them to an acceptable standard. CGA Alberta of course benefited
financially,from the huge increase in  fees from the new members.

And don't forget the scandal exposed on national TV of the Surrey,B.C. 
CGA, convicted of embezzling millions of dollars from fellow 
parishioners of his church.

Are these published reports, as well as others, part of the reason that
the Maritime Provinces CA's successfully maintain that CGA's there 
ARE NOT QUALIFIED to perform public audits? Could it have something to
do with the fact that an unqualified CGA from Alberta could move to the
Maritimes,and though unqualified, could still call himself a CGA there?

Students of accounting,in China,Hong Kong, S.E. Asia and the Caribbean,
who have to pay many thousands of dollars to obtain your designation, 
how do you feel about these "gwaliau" who got the CGA for free?

Students of accounting, public accountants, members of the public and 
financial institutions who are concerned about credibility in the 
accounting profession are invited to respond.


William Grosvenor               e-mail: acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
9208 - 137 Avenue                     or: acumen@compusmart.ab.ca
DEADMONTON, Alberta
CANADA  T5E 1Y5                            phone: 403-475-5555

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Subject: Re: WARNING-UNQUALIFIED CGA ACCOUNTANTS!!!
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In article <31759288.4AEE@compusmart.ab.ca>, 
William Grosvenor  wrote, for the
umpteenth time:

>Students of accounting, public accountants, members of the public and 
>financial institutions who are concerned about credibility in the 
>accounting profession are invited to respond.

What, exactly, is your problem, Mr. Grosvenor? Did you flunk
your CGA exams? Are you simply hoping that by reposting this
trash every few months, the profession will end up with a
black eye?

Faint hope, as the only black eye here would seem to be yours.

My lady is well into her CGA course of study. It is brutal in
its complexity and in the demands it makes upon its students,
requiring a steady regimen of 4-6 hour study periods daily -
seven days a week. I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't pass
the course, Mr. Grosvenor - I know I couldn't.


From acumen@compusmart.ab.ca Tue Apr 23 16:01:36 PDT 1996
Article: 40225 of can.politics
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From: William Grosvenor 
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: should ca's complain re unqualified cga's?
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 07:13:15 +0700
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CONCERN TO ACCOUNTING STUDENTS,ACCOUNTANTS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC-
CGA'S IN CANADA - WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEM?


Over the past year, national media have been filling the news with 
stories of scandals involving prominent CERTIFIED GENERAL ACCOUNTANTS 
(CGA's) in Canada.

The Vancouver Sun and other national media recently carried banner 
headlines regarding Roman Evancic CGA and FCGA, who had got himself 
SHOT!!.This was apparently in connection with some business partner 
and a collections problem. The news reported that the assailant said,
as he shot Evancic:"I'm from your stock brokers. I understand you 
ripped him off."(per Vancouver Sun)

In Alberta last summer, the media had a field day, reporting on the 
fact that the Past President of CGA Alberta, a CGA and FCGA, was 
under investigation on a complaint by the HONGKONG BANK to the RCMP 
Commercial Crime Division. The HK Bank was complaining about 
William Mearns, who had been for 12 years the Controller/Treasurer 
of the County of Red Deer, Alberta.

At the end of 1995, without any advice to the general public or even 
to Members of CGA Alberta, Mearns was allowed to SECRETLY RESIGN both
his CGA and FCGA designations. This seems a first for Canada, where
an FCGA surrenders what was supposed to be a prestigious designation.

Mind you, Mearns got his FCGA for his work in 1987-1988, where he was
involved in admitting to CGA Alberta  unqualified bookkeepers,who were
given the CGA designation,with no requirement for qualifications,
education,experience,NO EXAMS,or even requiring upgrading courses to
bring them to an acceptable standard. CGA Alberta of course benefited
financially,from the huge increase in  fees from the new members.

And don't forget the scandal exposed on national TV of the Surrey,B.C. 
CGA, convicted of embezzling millions of dollars from fellow 
parishioners of his church.

Are these published reports, as well as others, part of the reason that
the Maritime Provinces CA's successfully maintain that CGA's there 
ARE NOT QUALIFIED to perform public audits? Could it have something to
do with the fact that an unqualified CGA from Alberta could move to the
Maritimes,and though unqualified, could still call himself a CGA there?

Students of accounting,in China,Hong Kong, S.E. Asia and the Caribbean,
who have to pay many thousands of dollars to obtain your designation, 
how do you feel about these "gwaliau" who got the CGA for free?

Students of accounting, public accountants, members of the public and 
financial institutions who are concerned about credibility in the 
accounting profession are invited to respond.


William Grosvenor               e-mail: acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
9208 - 137 Avenue                     or: acumen@compusmart.ab.ca
DEADMONTON, Alberta
CANADA  T5E 1Y5                            phone: 403-475-5555

        INTERNATIONAL  LINKS  PROMOTE  TRADE  AND  PEACE



From acumen@compusmart.ab.ca Sat Apr 27 11:38:53 PDT 1996
Article: 33109 of alt.revisionism
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From: William Grosvenor 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: AFL-Anti Faggot League
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 07:51:50 +0700
Organization: International Institute of Management Inc.
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A group calling itself AFL, Anti Faggot League is starting up,and can use 
all the support of those of you opposed to these perverts.

Suggest you send a support message to dan67@ix.netcom.com


Don't forget that AIDS was spread worldwide,deliberately,by a Canadian 
faggot with AIR CANADA,with the assistance of the Canadian government. 
This is well documented in the book,and movie entitled "AND THE BAND 
PLAYED ON".

I feel that the only good faggot,and faggot-supporter is a cremated 
one,since then they can be recycled,as fertiliser.


From acumen@compusmart.ab.ca Sat Apr 27 18:26:36 PDT 1996
Article: 43849 of bc.general
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From: William Grosvenor 
Newsgroups: bc.general
Subject: WARNING-IS YOUR CGA ACCOUNTANT QUALIFIED?
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 08:00:44 +0700
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CONCERN TO ACCOUNTING STUDENTS,ACCOUNTANTS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC-
CGA'S IN CANADA - WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEM?


Over the past year, national media have been filling the news with 
stories of scandals involving prominent CERTIFIED GENERAL ACCOUNTANTS 
(CGA's) in Canada.

The Vancouver Sun and other national media recently carried banner 
headlines regarding Roman Evancic CGA and FCGA, who had got himself 
SHOT!!.This was apparently in connection with some business partner 
and a collections problem. The news reported that the assailant said,
as he shot Evancic:"I'm from your stock brokers. I understand you 
ripped him off."(per Vancouver Sun)

In Alberta last summer, the media had a field day, reporting on the 
fact that the Past President of CGA Alberta, a CGA and FCGA, was 
under investigation on a complaint by the HONGKONG BANK to the RCMP 
Commercial Crime Division. The HK Bank was complaining about 
William Mearns, who had been for 12 years the Controller/Treasurer 
of the County of Red Deer, Alberta.

At the end of 1995, without any advice to the general public or even 
to Members of CGA Alberta, Mearns was allowed to SECRETLY RESIGN both
his CGA and FCGA designations. This seems a first for Canada, where
an FCGA surrenders what was supposed to be a prestigious designation.

Mind you, Mearns got his FCGA for his work in 1987-1988, where he was
involved in admitting to CGA Alberta  unqualified bookkeepers,who were
given the CGA designation,with no requirement for qualifications,
education,experience,NO EXAMS,or even requiring upgrading courses to
bring them to an acceptable standard. CGA Alberta of course benefited
financially,from the huge increase in  fees from the new members.

And don't forget the scandal exposed on national TV of the Surrey,B.C. 
CGA, convicted of embezzling millions of dollars from fellow 
parishioners of his church.

Are these published reports, as well as others, part of the reason that
the Maritime Provinces CA's successfully maintain that CGA's there 
ARE NOT QUALIFIED to perform public audits? Could it have something to
do with the fact that an unqualified CGA from Alberta could move to the
Maritimes,and though unqualified, could still call himself a CGA there?

Students of accounting,in China,Hong Kong, S.E. Asia and the Caribbean,
who have to pay many thousands of dollars to obtain your designation, 
how do you feel about these "gwaliau" who got the CGA for free?

Students of accounting, public accountants, members of the public and 
financial institutions who are concerned about credibility in the 
accounting profession are invited to respond.


William Grosvenor               e-mail: acumen@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
9208 - 137 Avenue                     or: acumen@compusmart.ab.ca
DEADMONTON, Alberta
CANADA  T5E 1Y5                            phone: 403-475-5555

        INTERNATIONAL  LINKS  PROMOTE  TRADE  AND  PEACE



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To: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC)
From: acumen@bernie.compusmart.ab.ca (bill grosvenor)
Subject: Re: WARNING-IS Grosvenor Qualified?
Status: RO

Dear Oi Vey,SOB:
Hope you enjoy the worldwide dissemination of the published reports
regarding unqualified CGA's.

For your information,I AM a CGA,obtained through much hard work,in case you
forgot how one is supposed to obtain the designation.I am publicising the
information regarding problems with CGA's as a worldwide service,at my
expense,rather than using taxpayer funding as does Nizkor.

Join the new AFL and support the anti-faggot campaign,which at least is
something more useful than supporting Jewish gangsters and murderers.

It seems you have a very selective memory,when it comes to the murderers of
Israel,such as the IRGUN,Stern Gang and so on.Perhaps you have had too much
of a lobotomy?



All the points in my detailed report came from published reports in the
media,for those who can read that is.If you get the December 29 1995 issue
of the Vancouver Sun it headlined the story about Romancic.The other stories
are similarly headlined when they occurred.Guess you must be drinking with
your jewish friends from CGA H.O.????


>In article <318171BC.3D80@compusmart.ab.ca>, 
>William Grosvenor  wrote:
>
>>CONCERN TO ACCOUNTING STUDENTS,ACCOUNTANTS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC-
>>CGA'S IN CANADA - WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEM?
>
>Nothing, Mr. Grosvenor. What's your problem, did you flunk out
>of the CGA course again?
>
>The training is absolutely first cabin, Mr. Grosvenor, but it
>takes dedication, intelligence, and absolute determination to
>succeed to make it through... sorry you couldn't hack it.
>
>Now document your claims, or shut the hell up, and leave the
>CGA students to their studies.
>
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REDMONTON - Alberta
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From acumen@compusmart.ab.ca Sun Apr 28 10:08:33 PDT 1996
Article: 33393 of alt.revisionism
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From: William Grosvenor 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: JEWISH ARITHMETIC??
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 07:43:19 +0700
Organization: International Institute of Management Inc.
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What special JEWISH ARITHMETIC is used to increase several million 
dollars to SEVEN BILLION?

Is it this special Jewish Arithmetic that increased the International Red 
Cross figure of 320,000 to the now fictitious figure of six millions?

A Jewish friend tells me of thier joke for counting - 2 percent interest 
is when you lend one dollar,and ask for three back - one plus two is 
three.



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