The Nizkor Project: Remembering the Holocaust (Shoah)

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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
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Susan Groppi (groppi@scunix4.harvard.edu) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : Julia Kim (jmkim@course2.harvard.edu) writes:
> : > Last I checked, there are many white women who are involved in different 
> : > aspects of the women's rights movement, pushing for empowerment, having 
> : > careers, 
> 
> : No, there are many JEWISH women sticking their noses into everything,
> : pretending that they give a rat's ass about "empowerment" for women,
> : especially "women of colour".
> 
> Well gee, Les, does this mean I'm actually Jewish and never knew it?  
> Because I care very deeply and personally about empowerment for women, 
> especially if it means getting women out from the control of men like 
> you.  Now play nice or I'll start lecturing about the phallocentric 
> patriarchy, okay?

No, Susie, here's what I said:

1)  "There are many JEWISH women sticking their noses into everything..."

Here's what your feeble mind WISHED I had said:

2)  "All feminists are jewesses."
 
I said #1, NOT #2.

> : > telling all the asshole males that they know to go fuck themselves and make
> : > the damn babies on their own, and that sort of thing.
> 
> : No, that's mostly the lesbians.
> 
> No, that's mostly the women who feel that their lives are inherently 
> worthwhile whether or not they have babies.  I think babies are cool.  I 
> think a career is cool too, however.  Most women feel this way.  Most 
> women resent being told that they have to choose between their own lives 
> and their potential children.

And many women are not selfish, neurotic yuppie bitches.  Your point?

Time for a reality check, Susie:  not every woman is a corporate raider
just swimming in dough, able to juggle kids AND a "career" with nary a
second thought.  For many, it costs more to have kids than their "career"
justifies.  Nor, for that matter, are many MEN able to hemmorhage money
just so their wives can shunt the kids off to day-care while they pursue
their "careers".

(snip)

> : > just like many other things that people insist upon making race things.
> : > might be a culture thing, but how you stand on women's rights is in no 
> : > way determined solely by the color of your skin.  
> 
> : It sure is!  Name me ONE White racial group that practices female
> : circumcision.  Just ONE, Julia.
> 
> Excuse me, but feminism and women's rights are about a hell of a lot more 
> than fighting genital mutilation.

Sure, I know that.  Like suffrage, equal representation in the work place,
all that happy crap.  But tell me this, Susie:  how is feminism accepted
in Muslim countries?  (Hint:  the answer sounds a lot like "not very
well").  It is ONLY in White Western countries that feminism makes any
headway, and only leftist, pro-lesbian, bra-burner feminism, at that.  The
other side of the story is never given any publicity.
 
(snip)

> : It's not their responsibility ALONE, Julia.  BOTH White men AND White
> : women have to take responsibility for this.
> 
> It's been my experience that men who talk about women needing to preserve 
> the sanctity of the race by having lots of babies are also the men who 
> feel that their contribution to child-raising is fulfilled by running out 
> to the store for more diapers.  That's not taking responsibility.

Your experience sounds like jewish media propaganda.

> : > Finally, to make a point that completes a journey into unrelated topics 
> : > for these newsgroups, why exactly did you put quotation marks around the 
> : > word career? 
> 
> : Because, Julia, there's no "career" that's even on-one hundreth as 
> : important as raising the next generation of Whites.
> 
> You know, Les, actually having the baby isn't the thing that causes women 
> to give up their careers--it's raising the child.  So why can't men give 
> up their careers to save the White race?

Because, Susie dearest, men shouldn't take on female roles, and women
shouldn't take on male roles.  And save your time if you're thinking about
scoring points off me by griping about my rejection of "equalitarian"
dogman, don't bother.  I don't believe it, and anybody who gives it five
minutes of thought rather than just blindly accepting what whiny,
neurotic, jewish "feminists" tell you, will recognize that it's true.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Feb  1 09:57:20 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Anti-Racist "Action" (was: Griswold: Senseless Drivel Personified)
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Ken McVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:
> In article , 
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>One request, if I may:  could you NOT post senseless drivel like that
>>above?  It hurts my brain to try and muddle through it.
> 
> Speaking of senseless drivel, Mr. Griswold, how many natives
> were there, before the white guys showed up? How many are
> there now?

Here's a news story that made me think of you as soon as I read it, Kenny:

MOBS HAD COP STUCK IN MIDDLE, Susan Sherring, Ottawa Sun, February 1 page 13

	A police officer working to control an angry mob of anti-racists
told court yesterday he feared for his safety as a man threatened him with
a metre-long metal pipe.

	Mohamed Khreis, 33, is on trial for assault with a dangerous weapon.

	In May 1993, there was an ugly demonstration in front of the
downtown Boys and Girls Club [in Ottawa] when it was learned the Heritage
Front - a white supremacist group - had rented the facilities for a rock
concert.

	After the skinheads left the club, they were involved in a melee
with the anti-racists.

	Acting Sgt. Michael Ryan said he was part of a patrol trying to
control the crowd, when he saw Khreis coming at him with a weapon.

	"We were being trapped between the two groups that wanted to get
at each other.  He was coming towards me, holding the weapon in a
threatening manner," Ryan said.  "I felt I was in danger.  I tried to
wrestle the weapon from him," he told the jury.

	Ryan said as he struggled, an officer tried to pepper spray Kheis
(sic) but hit him instead.

	The trial continues today.
**********

Wanna take a stab at explaining WHY the "trial" of George Hawthorne went so
fast, while this winner, who threatened and assaulted a COP gets to wait
over two years before he gets his trial, Kenny?

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Feb  1 09:57:21 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Marx was a jew
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True enough, Lenin and Stalin weren't jews.  But Karl Marx was.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Feb  2 19:35:03 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: If the Holocaust didn't happen, where did the Jews go?
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> If the Holocaust didn't happen, as some people on this NG would like
> to believe, then what happened to the Jews who lived in
> Eastern Europe before World War II?

But, Pizza-dude, that's assuming that we believe the post-war figures on
jewish "population" (read, infestation) of Eastern Europe.  We don't.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb  3 08:43:35 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: If the Holocaust didn't happen, where did the Jews go?
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> If the Holocaust didn't happen, as some people on this NG would like
> to believe, then what happened to the Jews who lived in
> Eastern Europe before World War II?

But, Pizza-dude, that's assuming that we believe the post-war figures on
jewish "population" (read, infestation) of Eastern Europe.  We don't.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb  3 10:26:22 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: MARILYN MONROE!!!
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geo (geo@azstarnet.com) writes:
> Ourobouros (p_stone@alchemy.co.nz) wrote:
> : In article <4ej708$eg7@news.azstarnet.com>, geo@azstarnet.com (geo) says:

(snip)

> : Believe or not, I agree with your sentiments here.  It is extremely 
> : pleasant to discover that mulatto men find mulatto women attractive.  
> : It's a pity that the liberals (generalising) cannot fathom this.  BTW, any 
> : "White Women" with black in them aren't White, they're mulatto like you.
> 
> Well then "Mulattos" look better than anyone & I'm "Mulatto". 

Arrogance.

> Example:  Can you tell me of a wome who is better looking than Jane
> Kennedy?  That woman blows away all of the white & black women in the U.S.A. 
> today.  However, her as I prefer to classify ourselves as black. And if
> push comes to shove we are down with the black race because that's what we 
> are!

"Down" is definitely the right word. :-)

> Anyway you look at it the group classified as black in america has the
> best looking women who more often than not prefer black men.  So how
> can we loose?

You just said so, by admitting that mulattoes are usually classified as
negroes.  Jeepers, you've already lost, but you're too stupid to
understand it.

Face it:  negroes are an evolutionary dead-end, just like _H. Neadertalis_.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb  3 10:26:23 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Negresses beautiful?!?  HAH! (Was: MARILYN MONROE!!!)
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Tuthmsis III (rhd102@email.psu.edu) writes:

(snip - a lot of wrangling over what constitues "beauty", with me taking the 
position that negresses are the antithesis of beauty, and negrophiles (of
course) trying to "prove" the opposite, ie that negresses are beautiful)

>   Lund , this guy has obviously not seen many African people , or people 
> for that matter . That , or iether he has a very distorted idea of what 
> beautifull is . Niomi Cambel , Imon , and Brandi ; to name a few 
> camercialised but beautifully pure black African women who have very 
> pronounced African features . 

Uh, that's "NAOMI Campbell", you banana-eating savage.  And she is NOT a
pure negress with very pronounced African features.  She's a mulatress
with many White features.  That's why she's able to capitalize on her
looks.  Iman (not Imon) is not that good looking.

But keep it up.  Keep naming "negresses" that you think are good-looking
proof that pure-blooded Africans are "beautiful".  The way you negroes
latch on to mulattoes and claim them as "proof" is really hilarious.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb  3 10:42:03 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: MARILYN MONROE!!!
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geo (geo@azstarnet.com) writes:
> Ourobouros (p_stone@alchemy.co.nz) wrote:
> : In article <4ej708$eg7@news.azstarnet.com>, geo@azstarnet.com (geo) says:

(snip)

> : Believe or not, I agree with your sentiments here.  It is extremely 
> : pleasant to discover that mulatto men find mulatto women attractive.  
> : It's a pity that the liberals (generalising) cannot fathom this.  BTW, any 
> : "White Women" with black in them aren't White, they're mulatto like you.
> 
> Well then "Mulattos" look better than anyone & I'm "Mulatto". 

Arrogance.

> Example:  Can you tell me of a wome who is better looking than Jane
> Kennedy?  That woman blows away all of the white & black women in the U.S.A. 
> today.  However, her as I prefer to classify ourselves as black. And if
> push comes to shove we are down with the black race because that's what we 
> are!

"Down" is definitely the right word. :-)

> Anyway you look at it the group classified as black in america has the
> best looking women who more often than not prefer black men.  So how
> can we loose?

You just said so, by admitting that mulattoes are usually classified as
negroes.  Jeepers, you've already lost, but you're too stupid to
understand it.

Face it:  negroes are an evolutionary dead-end, just like _H. Neadertalis_.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb  3 10:42:04 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: black on white crime show 66-to-1 statistics very high indeed
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Stefan Andreasson (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> Frank Weltner wrote:
> 
> (more irrelevancies from the deranged mind of the Couch Potato)
>> 
>> The Dayton Daily News report on crime, when broken down, shows that whites
>> are 66 times as like to be attacked by a black than for a white to attack
>> a black person.
> 
> It is easier to find a white man to attack than a black one overall...!

Has it never occurred to you, tapioca-brain, that the whole idea of
attacking someone in the first place, is highly relevant?
>> 
>> A person may have one of two relationships with violent crime, either the
>> victim, or the perpetrator.  Using our numbers, 224,000,000; 28,000,000;
>> 1,540,000; and 186;000 we can construct this grid:
>> 
>>  \
>>   \ Expected value of relationship to crime in % (ratios multiplied by 100%)
>>    \
>>     \
>> Race \     victim                             perpetrator
>>       \----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>       |                                  |                                   |
>> white | # of black on white crimes       | # of white on black crimes        |
>>       | -------------------------- = .69 | -------------------------- = .083 |
>>       |  # of white people               |   # of white people               |
>> ______|__________________________________|___________________________________|
>>       |                                  |                                   |
>> black | # of white on black crimes       | # of black on white crimes        |
>>       | -------------------------- = .66 | -------------------------- = 5.5  |
>>       |  # of black people               |  # of black people                |
>>       |__________________________________|___________________________________|
>> 
>> So, on average, less than 1/10th of 1% of white people attack blacks,
>> but 5.5% of blacks attack whites.  This is a 66-to-1 ratio.  Allowing for
>> assumptions of multiple attacks per person to weaken the ratio, we can settle
>> on a 50-to-1 ratio.
> 
> Again, look up the percentages each group makes up of the U.S. population.

Sure.  Blacks make up from 12 to 14% of the U.S. polulation.  Whites make
up about 72%.  So let's be charitable and suggest that negroes should
commit 6 times as many crimes as Whites.

Hello, liberals...?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb  3 10:42:05 PST 1996
Article: 17585 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Negresses beautiful?!?  HAH! (Was: MARILYN MONROE!!!)
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Tuthmsis III (rhd102@email.psu.edu) writes:

(snip - a lot of wrangling over what constitues "beauty", with me taking the 
position that negresses are the antithesis of beauty, and negrophiles (of
course) trying to "prove" the opposite, ie that negresses are beautiful)

>   Lund , this guy has obviously not seen many African people , or people 
> for that matter . That , or iether he has a very distorted idea of what 
> beautifull is . Niomi Cambel , Imon , and Brandi ; to name a few 
> camercialised but beautifully pure black African women who have very 
> pronounced African features . 

Uh, that's "NAOMI Campbell", you banana-eating savage.  And she is NOT a
pure negress with very pronounced African features.  She's a mulatress
with many White features.  That's why she's able to capitalize on her
looks.  Iman (not Imon) is not that good looking.

But keep it up.  Keep naming "negresses" that you think are good-looking
proof that pure-blooded Africans are "beautiful".  The way you negroes
latch on to mulattoes and claim them as "proof" is really hilarious.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb  3 15:12:55 PST 1996
Article: 17603 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: rec.music.white-power
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Craig Lambert  writes:
> 
>As a white, I can tell you that anyone who uses a swastika in their
>sig knows not one goddamn thing about anything deserving to be called
>pride, white or not, and I will fight against anything you want and
>anything you work for.   The 'white race' will have no pride until
>people who think as you do are so sick of being shouted down they
>don't even bother to speak up.
>What you defend is crime and horror and that swastika has earned every
>iota of hatred it draws.  You hang that burden on yourself, nazi-scum.
>Take your whines about having enemies to alt.puzzled.shitheads

Uh, I hate to break it to you, Craig, but news.groups is about discussing,
well, NEWS GROUPS.  It's not about "proving" how broad-minded (and
self-hating) you are.

I vote YES for rec.music.white-power.

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb  4 06:32:27 PST 1996
Article: 22620 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Marx was a jew
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Hal Womack (womack@netcom.com) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : True enough, Lenin and Stalin weren't jews.  But Karl Marx was.
> 
> 	In point of fact, official opinion in Moscow finally confirmed
> around 1972 that at least one of Vladimir Illych Ulyanov's [aka Lenin]
> grandparents was Jewish. General Volkogonov [sp.?] recently published a
> biography with some of the details of Lenin's ancestry. Hidden national
> conflicts play a far larger role in Soviet history than so far
> acknowledged by mainstream historians. 

And...?

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb  4 07:00:26 PST 1996
Article: 22620 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Marx was a jew
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Hal Womack (womack@netcom.com) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> : True enough, Lenin and Stalin weren't jews.  But Karl Marx was.
> 
> 	In point of fact, official opinion in Moscow finally confirmed
> around 1972 that at least one of Vladimir Illych Ulyanov's [aka Lenin]
> grandparents was Jewish. General Volkogonov [sp.?] recently published a
> biography with some of the details of Lenin's ancestry. Hidden national
> conflicts play a far larger role in Soviet history than so far
> acknowledged by mainstream historians. 

And...?

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb  4 08:04:14 PST 1996
Article: 13240 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Zulu tactics (was: The decline of White America... oh well!)
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Kwesi Ako Kennedy (kakenned@unity.ncsu.edu) writes:
> potato@stlnet.com (Frank Weltner) wrote:
> 
>>I'd give the entire Zulu nation about 90 minutes of horror in a pitched
>>battle with just one Legion of Alexander the Great's best phalanxed
>>armies. It would be over for the Zulus very quickly and painfully.
> 
> The British tried it and it failed miserably since that phalnx manuver was
> horribly simplistic to defeat by luring their  opponents main force to a
> central location and then surrounding them as they moved in closer. The
> warriors would then close in from all sides, surrounding them from the back as
> well.  I believe it was refered to as the Closing Horn manuver.(?)

That's funny, Kwesi.  The Zulu "nation" was defeated by the British.  The
Brits may have lost some of the battles, but they most definitely won the
war.  You shouldn't spend your time quibbling over how clever the Zulus
were in winning ONE battle.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb  4 08:04:16 PST 1996
Article: 13241 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Mr. Griswold: Is it nature or nuture? Or both?
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Steve Garza (sgarza@csubak.edu) writes:
> Hey Mr. Griswold, over the last year you have claimed blacks and other
> minorities have higher rates of crime than the general population and
> higher rates of crime committed against whites than vice versa. While this
> may be true, it is also true that the majority of these people committing
> crimes came from lower socio-economic backgrounds. So I'm curious: Do
> whites from these same, poor, crime infested inner city neighborhoods
> produce the same amount of crime as their minority neighbors?

Of course not, idiot.  God, WHY do you guys ask such retarded questions?
 
> If anyone knows of any study that relates to this I would be pleased if
> they posted the relevant facts.
> 
> I have seen in my own family how influential the environment can be on
> people. My relatives who grew up in predominantly white middle class
> neighborhoods have raised fine upstanding children who have higher
> educational goals, married later, and had smaller families. Some of my
> cousins who grew up in poor, Hispanic, farming communities have been less
> educated, married early on, have larger families, and are more religious.
> 
> It's strange when I go to visit these relatives. They have religious
> pictures on the walls, the conversations are half in English, half in
> Spanish, and they are generally much more emotional than what I am used
> to. From the moment I enter the house, I am greeted in Spanish, then comes
> all the hugging, kissing, and pats on the back. It's times like that when
> I feel like a prude! I can hardly understand how in the midst of all this
> merry making and warm salutations how I can feel so uncomfortable like a
> fish out of water. Then these people sit around gossiping and telling
> stories of everyone and their next door neighbor. And I sit there with no
> stories of my own to tell, wishing I were back home with my million and
> one electronic gadgets or with my books.
> 
> Yuck! Primitive. I would rather be the hermit that I am, content with my
> books, TV, computer and other THINGS. I feel much more comfortable with a
> glowing screen and digital words from distant friends and enemies I will
> never meet in person.

Geez, Garza, WAKE UP!!!  We have NEVER denied the influence of
environment; we have just stated, time and again, that genetics is MORE
important.  Cripes, youse guys are tedious.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb  4 08:04:17 PST 1996
Article: 13248 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: A Trip Down Miscegenation Memory Lane with Spudbo (wuz: Markham Chinese Vs. White People.)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article ,
> potato@stlnet.com (Frank Weltner) wrote:

(snip)

> * I just don't want the cities destroyed. Do you mind? You want your property 
> * destroyed? I doubt it.
> 
> Poor white people wreck and terrorize their neighborhoods, too. 

You wish.

> Have you ever heard of the term "white trash", Frank? 

With people like you around here, how could he not have?

(snip - Crazy schmoozing for a medal or something, telling us where she
(supposedly) came from)

> Living in poverty is damned repressive, Frank. If someone lives in an area
> that is run down, that a landlord will not maintain, where they don't have
> any ownership and can't feel any pride, they will cease to give a damn
> about the condition of their neighborhoods. 

Would you mind telling us how repressive it is to CREATE poverty out of once 
well-to-do neighbourhoods?

(snip)

> Well, in the U.S., the majority of social problems involve Whites, so
> you'd better get your people in line. I'm tired of my tax dollars
> supporting their lazy asses and criminal lifestyles.

In the U.S., the OVERWHELMING majority of people are White, Crazy, so you
should take that fact into account.  If Whites were causing problems at
least SIX TIMES as frequently as negroes, you'd have a case.  But since
they aren't, go pound some more sand up your asshole.

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb  4 08:04:18 PST 1996
Article: 13249 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Zionism = racism? (was: 15th question)
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> 
> If the UN is controlled by Jews, how come the UN General Assembly
> passed a resolution in 1975 equating Zionism with racism?

You might also want to mention that the UN General Assembly overturned
that resolution shortly afterwards.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb  4 08:04:19 PST 1996
Article: 13252 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Caesar asks a lot of questions!
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You're a pretty nosy guy, Caesar!  Has it ever occurred to your little
hamster-powered brain that your questions are more revealing of your own
ignorance, than any contradictions that they will (hopefully) expose? 
Just thought I'd point that out to you.

Damn, I'm so HELPFUL!!!

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb  4 08:07:30 PST 1996
Article: 17608 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: White girls love me !
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Richard Collins (richie@netcom.com) writes:
> Don't you fuckers hate that ?  When one of us mud people comes along and 
> steals "your" women.  I think the whole idea of "stealing your women" is 
> a crock of shit.  Like you own them. White women just can't get enough of 
> me, I'm just bragging to piss you off.  Yeah call me a nigger, a liar, or 
> whatever other slur you want to sling at me.  Errupt in anger because you 
> can't think of anything intelligent to say.  We will never likely meet in 
> life so you don't have to believe my claims but I'll be there when those 
> white thighs spread open and those blue eye gaze into mine. You can't 
> stop it man, call them race traitors or whatever you will.  Inter-racial
> marriages and children are on the rise in this country.  What is a good God
> fearing racist to  do.  You can't kill us all we outnumber you losers.  And
> don't forget there are the race traitors who are against scum like you too.
> Seems like your movement is hopeless, you lose ground everyday.   And what is
> the big idea with a "white homeland" ?  Why but it in the middle of the 
> country land locked and surrounded by the rest of us ?  Are you people 
> really that stupid ?  Hey you can have Idaho just save me some potatoes !

At least you're not trying to pawn that "Black is beautiful" crap on us. 
You KNOW that negresses are butt-ugly, especially when compared to White
women, so I can't fault you for by-passing the ugly welfare-queens for
White women.  You seem halfway smart; must be the White genes in you.

Les



--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb  4 08:07:31 PST 1996
Article: 17703 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Mr. Griswold: Is it nature or nuture? Or both?
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Steve Garza (sgarza@csubak.edu) writes:
> Hey Mr. Griswold, over the last year you have claimed blacks and other
> minorities have higher rates of crime than the general population and
> higher rates of crime committed against whites than vice versa. While this
> may be true, it is also true that the majority of these people committing
> crimes came from lower socio-economic backgrounds. So I'm curious: Do
> whites from these same, poor, crime infested inner city neighborhoods
> produce the same amount of crime as their minority neighbors?

Of course not, idiot.  God, WHY do you guys ask such retarded questions?
 
> If anyone knows of any study that relates to this I would be pleased if
> they posted the relevant facts.
> 
> I have seen in my own family how influential the environment can be on
> people. My relatives who grew up in predominantly white middle class
> neighborhoods have raised fine upstanding children who have higher
> educational goals, married later, and had smaller families. Some of my
> cousins who grew up in poor, Hispanic, farming communities have been less
> educated, married early on, have larger families, and are more religious.
> 
> It's strange when I go to visit these relatives. They have religious
> pictures on the walls, the conversations are half in English, half in
> Spanish, and they are generally much more emotional than what I am used
> to. From the moment I enter the house, I am greeted in Spanish, then comes
> all the hugging, kissing, and pats on the back. It's times like that when
> I feel like a prude! I can hardly understand how in the midst of all this
> merry making and warm salutations how I can feel so uncomfortable like a
> fish out of water. Then these people sit around gossiping and telling
> stories of everyone and their next door neighbor. And I sit there with no
> stories of my own to tell, wishing I were back home with my million and
> one electronic gadgets or with my books.
> 
> Yuck! Primitive. I would rather be the hermit that I am, content with my
> books, TV, computer and other THINGS. I feel much more comfortable with a
> glowing screen and digital words from distant friends and enemies I will
> never meet in person.

Geez, Garza, WAKE UP!!!  We have NEVER denied the influence of
environment; we have just stated, time and again, that genetics is MORE
important.  Cripes, youse guys are tedious.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb  4 08:07:31 PST 1996
Article: 17707 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: White girls love me !
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Richard Collins (richie@netcom.com) writes:

(snip - Dick Collins trying to rile us with his fables about "conquests"
of White women)

Moi:
> : At least you're not trying to pawn that "Black is beautiful" crap on us. 
> : You KNOW that negresses are butt-ugly, especially when compared to White
> : women, so I can't fault you for by-passing the ugly welfare-queens for
> : White women.  You seem halfway smart; must be the White genes in you.

> You got it all wrong Mr. Griswold.  

You don't have to call me "Mister", boy.  We're pretty informal around here.

(snip - Dickie telling us more of his fantasies)

> Speaking of which you attempt to insult my 
> intelligence by stating that I must be halfway smart because of my  
> white genes.  Actually it is from both sides of my family that I have 
> and use more brain cells than all you racists.   My father was a college 
> professor,  it takes some brains to get a Phd.   

And AA doesn't hurt either, boy.

> Incidentally speaking of my family my 
> cousin who is BLACK is the editor of the EUROPEAN Bureau for the 
> Washington Post.  You don't have to give us negros any credit because I 
> know you won't.  Simple fact remains Les, half the shit you say about 
> blacks is all based on dillusions and lies, admit it.  

No, what I say about negroes is the unvarnished truth, and you know it. 
So go ahead and parade your AA accomplishments, the fact is, NONE of you
would have accomplished JACK SHIT if we hadn't dragged your ape asses out
of the jungles of Africa and taught you basic civilization.

Incedentally speaking, did you know that most circuses have
bicyclye-riding chimps?  What does that prove, Dickie?  That the chimps
BUILT the bikes?

BTW, what was the poop with you and Jenn Starkman?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb  4 22:00:48 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Zulu tactics (was: The decline of White America... oh well!)
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Kwesi Ako Kennedy (kakenned@unity.ncsu.edu) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Kwesi Ako Kennedy (kakenned@unity.ncsu.edu) writes:
>>> potato@stlnet.com (Frank Weltner) wrote:
>>> 
>>>>I'd give the entire Zulu nation about 90 minutes of horror in a pitched
>>>>battle with just one Legion of Alexander the Great's best phalanxed
>>>>armies. It would be over for the Zulus very quickly and painfully.
>>> 
>>> The British tried it and it failed miserably since that phalnx manuver was
>>> horribly simplistic to defeat by luring their  opponents main force to a
>>> central location and then surrounding them as they moved in closer. The
>>> warriors would then close in from all sides, surrounding them from the back as
>>> well.  I believe it was refered to as the Closing Horn manuver.(?)
>>
>>That's funny, Kwesi.  The Zulu "nation" was defeated by the British.  The
>>Brits may have lost some of the battles, but they most definitely won the
>>war.  You shouldn't spend your time quibbling over how clever the Zulus
>>were in winning ONE battle.
> 
> They won more than just one battle.  Heck you even said it yourself.
> 
> "The Brits may have lost some of the battles..."
> 
> Although they did not win the war, they did put a good amount of pain into the
> british forces.  Unfortunatly, the almight gun and bullet won it in this case.
> 
> Now against those Romans....no contest.

Alexander the Great wasn't Roman, asshole.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb  5 10:19:50 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Negresses beautiful?!?  HAH! (Was: MARILYN MONROE!!!)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) blathers on, to no apparent
point:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>>I really couldn't care less if your insecurity (which comes from the
>>knowledge that you CAN'T measure up to Aryan standards of aesthetics)
> 
> Mr. Griswold, like his ideological mentor Adolph Hitler, has annointed
> himself arbitror of aesthetics.  The great impressionists like
> Matisse could measure up to Hitler's artistic "standards", so those
> of us who don't measure up to Mr. Griswold's can rest assured that
> we are in good company.

I already said, Fester, that you don't need to call me "Mr. Griswold",
we're pretty informal around here.

No, I don't "annoint" myself arbiter of ANYTHING.  The simple FACT is,
that white women are, on average, FAR better looking than negro women. 
The beautiful "negresses" bandied about are ones with a LARGE dollop of
White genes in them.

Les 
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb  5 15:12:37 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Mr. Griswold: Is it nature or nuture? Or both?
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Steve Garza (sgarza@csubak.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

>> Geez, Garza, WAKE UP!!!  We have NEVER denied the influence of
>> environment; we have just stated, time and again, that genetics is MORE
>> important.  Cripes, youse guys are tedious.
> 
> Do you care to refine your answer Mr. Griswold? Do blacks have fewer
> neural connections between their brain cells than whites? Do whites have
> more wrinkles and folds in their brains? What genetic traits play so large
> a role in determining intelligence? How do you know these traits are not
> found in other racial groups? What percentage of the white population have
> these superior traits?

*sigh*

Ole Stevie must be lonely, so he thought he'd come here and get some
attention from the "Natsees".

Geez-Louise, you guys ask questions like the above (about brain
structures), then you squawk like wet hens when we answer you frankly.

> The human brain is very malleable Mr. Griswold. When you do certain
> activities such as playing an instrument or reading a book, blood flow
> changes in the brain. You develop different parts to different degrees. So
> environment and what you choose to develop may play a larger role than
> anything else.

Jesus, Garza, you really are something else, you know that?  Yes, the
brain is malleable, WITHIN LIMITS.  

> I know you state that genetics is the most important element in
> determining intelligence. I would agree with you, but it's pure
> speculation. I would think it likely that genetics plays a larger role,
> but neither you nor I have those answers. If you did, Mr. Griswold, you
> wouldn't be wasting your time here, but busy signing autographs of your
> latest book. 
> 
> Say hi to Sylvie for me.

"Hi to Sylvie for me."

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb  5 15:13:24 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Mr. Griswold: Is it nature or nuture? Or both?
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Steve Garza (sgarza@csubak.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

>> Geez, Garza, WAKE UP!!!  We have NEVER denied the influence of
>> environment; we have just stated, time and again, that genetics is MORE
>> important.  Cripes, youse guys are tedious.
> 
> Do you care to refine your answer Mr. Griswold? Do blacks have fewer
> neural connections between their brain cells than whites? Do whites have
> more wrinkles and folds in their brains? What genetic traits play so large
> a role in determining intelligence? How do you know these traits are not
> found in other racial groups? What percentage of the white population have
> these superior traits?

*sigh*

Ole Stevie must be lonely, so he thought he'd come here and get some
attention from the "Natsees".

Geez-Louise, you guys ask questions like the above (about brain
structures), then you squawk like wet hens when we answer you frankly.

> The human brain is very malleable Mr. Griswold. When you do certain
> activities such as playing an instrument or reading a book, blood flow
> changes in the brain. You develop different parts to different degrees. So
> environment and what you choose to develop may play a larger role than
> anything else.

Jesus, Garza, you really are something else, you know that?  Yes, the
brain is malleable, WITHIN LIMITS.  

> I know you state that genetics is the most important element in
> determining intelligence. I would agree with you, but it's pure
> speculation. I would think it likely that genetics plays a larger role,
> but neither you nor I have those answers. If you did, Mr. Griswold, you
> wouldn't be wasting your time here, but busy signing autographs of your
> latest book. 
> 
> Say hi to Sylvie for me.

"Hi to Sylvie for me."

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb  6 17:36:26 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Caesar asks a lot of questions!
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
> 
>> You're a pretty nosy guy, Caesar!  Has it ever occurred to your little
>> hamster-powered brain that your questions are more revealing of your own
>> ignorance, than any contradictions that they will (hopefully) expose? 
>> Just thought I'd point that out to you.
>> 
>> Damn, I'm so HELPFUL!!!
> 
> Well, you racists/bigots/Nazis don't seem to be able to answer all
> of them.

*sigh*

That's because, Pizza-dude, we know that the answers will be lost on an
idiot like you, who has already made up his "mind" (snicker) that whatever
the White guys say is evil, and whatever the non-White guys say must be
the cat's ass.  It's not even cost-effective to reply to your "questions"
for the lurkers, because most of them have already made up their minds
before they get here, and those that haven't are knocked onto our side of
the fence by the sheer inanity and sneakiness of liberal logic-chopping.

Les



--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Feb  7 11:58:30 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Mr. Griswold: Is it nature or nuture? Or both?
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca), appearing to be in the throes of DTs, writes: 

(snip)

> First, you didn't answer my question (but what else is new).  And what you
> call "communistic tripe" is well-established fact.  Pre-natal and early
> childhood nutrition have a major effect on development, and a major cause
> of malnutrition is poverty.  Poverty makes it far more difficult for kids
> to finish high school, when their potential earning power is essential for
> a family's survival.  Poverty makes it damn near impossible for all but the
> absolutely brightest to get any education after high school.  It isn't the
> only factor by a long shot, but it is a clearly causative factor, Herr
> Unterschmozzlegruppenguppyfuehrer.  My point is that you don't deign to
> attempt to unravel the complex causes.  You seek a simple solution that is
> no solution at all.

*sigh*

Yet another no-brainer who wants to argue that because I don't assign
PRIMARY importance to environment, that I must mean that environment plays
NO part in the development of one's potential.

Fester, I'm not going to clarify for youse guys again.  If you want to
keep on arguing against what you wish I HAD said, instead of addressing
what I DID say, you can do it without me.

(snip)

> Ja wohl, or however the hell it is spelt.  In other words, you don't give
> a damn what the real problems are.  You just plain hate all those you
> consider "nonwhites", and that is all the justification you need.  It 
> neither has nor needs a rational basis.  It is xenophobia at its worst.
> Danke whole heaps for clarifying that matter.

Yet again, a liberal jumps to a conclusion about the motives of anyone who
doesn't agrre with him/her/it.

(snip)

> Once again you demonstrate your narrow and distorted view of history.
> You also missed my point.  Let me try it again.  The squalor, the poverty,
> the crime, the "criminal classes" have not historically been a function
> of "race".  In Victorian England, people attributed poverty, squalor and
> crime to the "inherent inferiority" of the "underclasses", just as racist
> and antisemitic ideologues are today attributing poverty, squalor and crime
> in North America to the "inherent inferiority" of "nonwhites".  Do you get
> it yet, Herr Stumpfenpimpfenobstengimpengrupper? 

So, then, you're saying that poverty has NO co-relation to White
Nationalism, and it's only liberal bigotry that throws the slander of
economic disadvatage at us? :-)

(more Fester blah-blah-blah deleted.  Gawd, but she's tedious!)

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Feb  7 11:58:32 PST 1996
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) whines:
 
(snip)
 
> Do tell me about the "One Race" logic.  I don't have a clue what you mean
> by this phrase.
 
B.S. you don't.  You know very well what I mean:  the liberal insistence
that "racism" is based PURELY on complexion, nothing else.  I, and others,
keep telling you, that racism is based on what GOES with the complexion.
 
(snip)
 
> In other words, "the only people convinced by our "evidence" are the
> similar paranoid and deluded antisemites and racists, and its got so 
> many holes it, I'm not even going to try to fly it again".  Yeah,
> the forged "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", dragged up over and over
> again.  The fact that there are successful Jews.  The fact that many 
> Jews agree on some issues but differ on others.  Whoopee.  
 
Oh, for the luvva...
 
You know what anyone will get out of your little mini-sermon?  "Blah,
blah, blah... paranoid... blah, blah, blah... delude antisemites... blah,
blah, blah..."  Are you SURE that's the impression you want to create?
  
(snip)
 
Les

BTW, Arthur Leboutillier seems to have you on the run rather handily. 
He's showing up your intellectual poverty with every post.  Good on him!
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Feb  7 12:06:46 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Two things out of Africa
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AIDS and Ebola.  Thank a dusky today!

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Feb  7 12:06:47 PST 1996
Article: 17991 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Lemme get this straight... (was: GRISWOLD IS A FUCKING FOOL)
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Tuthmosis III (rhd102@email.psu.edu) writes:

(snip - semi-literate negro chirruping deleted)

>        Tuthmosis III  The black king of Egypt reborn son of Atum ,here to 
> protect the truth of the ancestors , and  bring terror to those who 
> trustpass against it . 

Lemme see here... you claim to be the reincarnation of some Egyptian king,
here to "bring terror to those who trustpass (sic!) against it", and yet
I'M the "fucking fool"?  Okay.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Feb  7 16:39:06 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Big time! (was: Marx was a jew)
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Adam 3T (adam3t@aol.com) writes:
> Joe refers to the Identity Movement, a pillar of the American neo-Nazi
> movement.  Briefly, the Identity Movement postulates that the "true" Jews----
> the "New Israel" of the New Testament----are the real descendants of 
> biblical Jewry.  They dismiss the people currently calling themsleves Jews 
> as pawns, plotters and players in a conspiracy against the New Israel, which 
> is the Aryan race.  The Leo Frank Brigade has designated the Identity 
> movement as a priority target in the event of civil unrest in the US
> instigated by the radical right.  It may not seem likely now but our
> simulations show that it couldwell be likely within 10 years, given the 
> steady economic decline of the the US.

Hey, someone's finally paying attention to the various facets of the White
Nationalist movement, and not calling everyone "neo-Nazis", and stuff!

Les

P.S.:  Who the heck is/was Leo Frank?

P.P.S:  Could you format your messages properly for a 72 character screen?
 Thanks.


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Feb  7 17:16:28 PST 1996
Article: 11487 of alt.skinheads
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: More lies from Griswold, surprise, surprise (Was:Black vs. White
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panaia (panaia@spectrum.curtin.edu.au) writes:
> SO THE BLACKS AND CRIME GO TOGETHER? WHAT BREED OF PERSON HAS IN THE HISTORY OF THE 
> IS PLANET CAUSED SO MUCH GRIEF AND STRIFE...CRIME??? THE ANSWER...WHITE ANGLO MALE 
> AND FEMALE. 

Stop shouting, ferchrissake.

> WHO FUCKED AFRICA AND HALF OF ASIA UNDER THE GUISE OF COLONISATION? THE WHITEYS OF 
> COURSE.

No need to be so crude.  Of course, you refuse to see that there was any
good to colonisation, so...

> WHO INVENTED THE BOMB?  THE WHITEYS OF COURSE.

Er, no, that was the jews, in a White civilization.  No-one else wanted
them around.
 
> WHO THROUGH THERE UNNATURAL FILTHY AND DEPRAVED SEXUAL PRACTICES WITH MAN AND BEAST 
> ALIKE CREATED FATAL VIRUSES?  THE WHITEYS OF COURSE.

Er, no, AIDS and Ebola came from AFRICA, saucer-lips.
 
> WHO INVENTED NAZISM, RACISM AND CAPITALISM, THE PILLARS OF ALL THAT IS EVIL AND SICK 
> IN THIS WORLD.  THE WHITEYS OF COURSE.

No-one "invented" any of those beliefs and/or economic systems.

> NEED I GO ON... I THINK NOT!

Thanks be to whatever gods there are that you chose to shut-up when you
did.  My eyes were starting to cross from your, um, "creative" style of
writing.

(AND TURN OFF YOUR BLEEDING CAPS LOCK!!!)

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Feb  8 00:30:22 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Jews:  Religion or race? (was: Ernst Zundel Avoids Usenet)
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 (ncrccjc@ibm.net) writes:

(snip)

> ncrccjc responds:
> 
> Those who engage in Holocaust denial, whether they are conscious of it or not, 
> support those hate mongers whose aim it is to revive nazism. Clearly, the 
> Holocaust, the wanton murder of innocence by the State for simply belonging to 
> a religious group, is the madness of nazism. 

Please.  NO-ONE believes the story that "Jews are just like us, 'cept they
go to church on Saturdays instead of Sundays."  Get with the program, ncrccjc.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Feb  8 23:24:23 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Negresses beautiful?!?  HAH! (Was: MARILYN MONROE!!!)
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Brendan J. F. Scallon (scallon@pyrotechnics.com) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : No, I don't "annoint" myself arbiter of ANYTHING.  The simple FACT is,
> : that white women are, on average, FAR better looking than negro women. 
> : The beautiful "negresses" bandied about are ones with a LARGE dollop of
> : White genes in them.
> 
> What about Kenya Moore or Roshumba?  What about the honies in EM's swimsuit
> issue (Kenya was covergirl in '92)

Yes, what about 'em?

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Feb  9 05:36:39 PST 1996
Article: 13562 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Why are liberals so crude?
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I mean, REALLY.  The standard fare from a liberal is "Eat my shit!" or "Go
fuck your sister!"  THAT'S what they call rational, reasoned debate, no doubt.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Feb  9 05:41:43 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Lemme get this straight... (was: GRISWOLD IS A FUCKING FOOL)
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Tuthmosis III (rhd102@email.psu.edu) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Tuthmosis III (rhd102@email.psu.edu) writes:
>>
>>(snip - semi-literate negro chirruping deleted)
>>
>>>        Tuthmosis III  The black king of Egypt reborn son of Atum ,here to 
>>> protect the truth of the ancestors , and  bring terror to those who 
>>> trustpass against it . 
>>
>>Lemme see here... you claim to be the reincarnation of some Egyptian king,
>>here to "bring terror to those who trustpass (sic!) against it", and yet
>>I'M the "fucking fool"?  Okay.

(snip - sig. deleted)

>           How many of my post did you dilligently scan to find that ? 
>  Good boy , you deserve the reward you searched for . Im proud of yuuuuu.
>     Tuthmosis 

Just the one, saucer-lips.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 10 09:10:22 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Chinese racism in Richmond, BC....
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Joseph Hin-bun Mak (jhbmak@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca) writes:
> 
> Karen Gordon (ar231@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
> : Markham, Ontario is not the only city with problems with the exploding
> : Asian population....
> : In Richmond, BC, a city with an Asian population of at least 33% (just
> : over the past 8-10 years), is now restricting employment in the Chinese-
> : dominated shopping malls.
> 
> There only appears to be problems in the eyes of those who
> imagine these types of problems.  If the cities of Markham or
> Richmond had a massive influx of German, or Italian, the
> "problems" you remarked on, would not even exist. 

Exactly.

Do you realize what you've just said? 


Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 10 12:59:57 PST 1996
Article: 13620 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: white trash, who built this country???
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Fragano Ledgister (fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu) writes:
> Sir William Cubitt (djohns@nova.umuc.edu) wrote:

(snip)

> : Before you go shooting your mouths off, think.  Can we afford to support 
> : these people who in their wildest dreams have never considered getting a job?
> 
> All the black people and Mexican immigrants I know have jobs. Am I
> looking at a skewed sample?

Yes.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 12 05:11:55 PST 1996
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article <4fgl4e$ig1@daryl.scsn.net>, xyz@scsn.net (Racial Theorist) wrote:
> 
> * bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> * 
> * >Please.  NO-ONE believes the story that "Jews are just like us, 'cept they
> * >go to church on Saturdays instead of Sundays." 
> * 
> * i know a bunch of jews, and none of the ones i know never go to church
> * at all.
> 
> Les doesn't go to church either.

How do YOU know?

> Does this mean that he's Jewish?

You really know how to hurt a guy.
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 12 05:11:56 PST 1996
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (racetraitor@sell.out.org) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> * Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:

(snip - about the religious practices of jews)

> * > Les doesn't go to church either.
> * 
> * How do YOU know?
> 
> You've done enough dissing "JewdeoChristianity" that you've made it damned
> clear that you do not ascribe to any traditional religion.

Oh, so "going to church" is now equivalent to "ascribe(ing) to any
traditional religion".

> We know that you are a member of your fearless leader's wacko goose-stepping
> cult (the Cosmotheist Church ), but you don't attend church unless:
> 
> 1. You make pilgrimages to Hillsboro, West Virginia;
> 2. You've turned your backyard toolshed or spare closet
>    into your own little chapel; or
> 3. You've been sneaking into Sunday services because you're afraid
>    that you will be struck by lightening and fry in Hell for eternity.
> 
> Is it true that you've been gluing your son's old tricycle tires onto your
> colander to ward off lightening strikes, cockroach-boy?

You mean you DON'T KNOW?  Your "intelligence" has been serving you pretty
poorly, hasn't it?

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 12 17:47:56 PST 1996
Article: 13709 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Immigrants on welfare...
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I think the following speaks for itself...

    Immigrants account for big part of SSI growth, officials say
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Copyright =A9 1996 Nando.net
    Copyright =A9 1996 The Associated Press
    
    WASHINGTON (Feb 7, 1996 09:41 a.m. EST) -- Legal immigrants and refugees
    account for nearly 25 percent of the recent growth in one of the nation's
    fastest growing welfare programs, according to a congressional report.
    
    In December, 785,000 elderly, blind and disabled non-citizens were receiving
    cash payments from the Supplemental Security Income program, about 12
    percent of all SSI recipients, said the General Accounting Office report
    released Tuesday.
    
    The number of non-citizens on SSI rolls has risen more than 14 percent each
    year since 1985, mirroring recent increases in immigration to the United
    States, said Carolyn Colvin, a Social Security Administration deputy
    commissioner, told the Senate Judiciary's immigration subcommittee Tuesday.
    
    The House and Senate are preparing to vote on two Republican plans that
    would reduce the number of foreigners allowed to come to the United States
    to live. President Clinton has also said he'd like to see legal immigration
    reduced.
    
    The authors of the bills -- Sen. Alan Simpson, R-Wyo., and Rep. Lamar Smith,
    R-Texas -- say one of their goals is to cut abuse by immigrants who are
    drawn to this country because of its welfare programs.
    
    Democrats concede something must be done to curb abuse in SSI but say
    there's no need to cut legal immigration. Some have suggested Republicans
    are whipping up anti-immigrant sentiment.
    
    "There's nothing ugly or evil about what we're up to," Simpson said. "This
    is not about the ragged, the wretched or the homeless."
    
    He said he just wants to tighten rules that support a longstanding U.S.
    policy of keeping out immigrants likely to become burdens on the public.
    
    In 1988, about 643,000 non-citizens were admitted to the country for
    permanent residence, the most since 1924, Colvin said. That number rose to
    1.8 million in 1991, mostly because of the Immigration Reform and Control
    Act, which legalized 2.7 million illegal aliens.
    
    In 1994, more than 804,000 immigrants entered the United States.
    
    Overall, immigrants use all forms of welfare at roughly the same rate as
    citizens do, according to a study by the Urban Institute.
    
    But the number of new SSI applications from immigrants has more than tripled
    since 1982, said Susan Martin, executive director of the U.S. Commission on
    Immigration Reform, which was appointed by Congress.
    
    The number of aliens receiving SSI payments because of age increased from
    92,000 in 1982 to 459,220 in 1995, she said. Blind and disabled aliens on
    the rolls increased from 36,000 in 1982 to 326,190 in 1995.
    
    
Les
    
    
    
    

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 12 17:47:57 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The nobility of Crazy Jeannie (was: A Trip...)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu), totally missing the 
point, writes:

(snip - Crazy getting REALLY miffed at DDvincenz calling her past a
collection of "failures").

Moi:
> * I can dig that.  After all, you're just plain stupid.  One gets the
> * DISTINCT impression that you'd be a talentless loser and just a general 
> * fuck-up anywhere you went, be it Nigeria or Iceland.
> 
> _Who's Who Among Students in American Colleges and Universities_, 1992
> edition, page 874, column 2 paragraph 4. Look me up, asshole. Scholastic
> achievement - yep, community service and leadership - yep, honor society
> membership - yep times two, and volunteer service - yep. You know what the
> irony of this is, Les? I was a high school drop out at fifteen years of
> age! I enrolled in a community college at 33 years of age with a GED with
> no high school background whatsofuckingever. 

Whoop-de-fucking-do.  You just don't get it, do you?  The point is, your
"accomplishments", according to your ideology, have nothing to do with
your inherent (bad word for you libs, I know) capabilities, but could be
duplicated by any Turd Worlder fresh off the boat.

> You know what else, Les? I've still not revealed some of the more
> interesting things about myself, but my hubby and I have done some pretty
> remarkable things with our lives and for our community in the last few
> years.

*groan*

WHY do I get the impression that you'll tell us all about them, at great
length?
 
Lemme guess:  your resume includes, but is not limited to, having gone
among the ignorant masses (ie, the negroes) to preach about the
Brotherhood of Man?  That would be just what I'd expect of one of you
lying liberals, after Couch Potato very accurately painted you liberals as
people who love minorities from afar.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Subject: Immigrants on welfare...
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I think the following speaks for itself...

    Immigrants account for big part of SSI growth, officials say
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Copyright =A9 1996 Nando.net
    Copyright =A9 1996 The Associated Press
    
    WASHINGTON (Feb 7, 1996 09:41 a.m. EST) -- Legal immigrants and refugees
    account for nearly 25 percent of the recent growth in one of the nation's
    fastest growing welfare programs, according to a congressional report.
    
    In December, 785,000 elderly, blind and disabled non-citizens were receiving
    cash payments from the Supplemental Security Income program, about 12
    percent of all SSI recipients, said the General Accounting Office report
    released Tuesday.
    
    The number of non-citizens on SSI rolls has risen more than 14 percent each
    year since 1985, mirroring recent increases in immigration to the United
    States, said Carolyn Colvin, a Social Security Administration deputy
    commissioner, told the Senate Judiciary's immigration subcommittee Tuesday.
    
    The House and Senate are preparing to vote on two Republican plans that
    would reduce the number of foreigners allowed to come to the United States
    to live. President Clinton has also said he'd like to see legal immigration
    reduced.
    
    The authors of the bills -- Sen. Alan Simpson, R-Wyo., and Rep. Lamar Smith,
    R-Texas -- say one of their goals is to cut abuse by immigrants who are
    drawn to this country because of its welfare programs.
    
    Democrats concede something must be done to curb abuse in SSI but say
    there's no need to cut legal immigration. Some have suggested Republicans
    are whipping up anti-immigrant sentiment.
    
    "There's nothing ugly or evil about what we're up to," Simpson said. "This
    is not about the ragged, the wretched or the homeless."
    
    He said he just wants to tighten rules that support a longstanding U.S.
    policy of keeping out immigrants likely to become burdens on the public.
    
    In 1988, about 643,000 non-citizens were admitted to the country for
    permanent residence, the most since 1924, Colvin said. That number rose to
    1.8 million in 1991, mostly because of the Immigration Reform and Control
    Act, which legalized 2.7 million illegal aliens.
    
    In 1994, more than 804,000 immigrants entered the United States.
    
    Overall, immigrants use all forms of welfare at roughly the same rate as
    citizens do, according to a study by the Urban Institute.
    
    But the number of new SSI applications from immigrants has more than tripled
    since 1982, said Susan Martin, executive director of the U.S. Commission on
    Immigration Reform, which was appointed by Congress.
    
    The number of aliens receiving SSI payments because of age increased from
    92,000 in 1982 to 459,220 in 1995, she said. Blind and disabled aliens on
    the rolls increased from 36,000 in 1982 to 326,190 in 1995.
    
    
Les
    
    
    
    

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Yeah, as if... (was: Who destroys houses? Racists.)
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evil Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> The other day a house in one of the most upscale neighborhoods here in 
> Birmingham, AL. burned to the ground. The house belonged to a successful 
> black business woman that had recently moved into this all-white 
> neighborhood. She had no problems with any of the neighbors as she is a 
> productive and contributing member of the community. When going through the 
> ruins of her burned down house, firefighters found scribblings on the walls 
> like "nigger", "white power", "KKK", and swastikas. Thankfully the whole 
> community is outraged and the PD has many officers on the case. My bet is 
> some rich suburban white kids in the community with nothing better to do 
> burned her house down because of pure and simple ignorance and meanness. 
> So who is it that would do these despicable things? - well, there you have 
> your proud "Aryan warriors". What a bunch of fucking cowards and losers.
> 
> eB

Have you ever considered the possibility that she pulled a "Tawana
Brawley" or "Sabrina Collins" to garner some publicity?

(for those who don't understand, T.B. and S.C. were a couple of negresses
who were subjected [in seperate incidents] to racist crimes.  Turns out
that the "crimes" were hoaxes, perpetrated by the negresses themselves).

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Feb 14 07:35:07 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: What's a nazi?
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That's anybody who's making a liberal look like the idiot he/she is.

About the funniest thing going is when some leftnik calls a conservative
jew a "Nazi".  I'm thinking of a canadian jew, Michael Coren, who was
called just that at Queen's University a while back.  Hilarious!

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Feb 14 07:50:12 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The nobility of Crazy Jeannie (was: A Trip...)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) snivels:
 
(snip - Crazy getting really pissed about DDvincez not buying her
particular brand of crapola)
 
> * > _Who's Who Among Students in American Colleges and Universities_, 1992
> * > edition, page 874, column 2 paragraph 4. Look me up, asshole. Scholastic
> * > achievement - yep, community service and leadership - yep, honor society
> * > membership - yep times two, and volunteer service - yep. You know what the
> * > irony of this is, Les? I was a high school drop out at fifteen years of
> * > age! I enrolled in a community college at 33 years of age with a GED with
> * > no high school background whatsofuckingever. 
 
> * Whoop-de-fucking-do.  You just don't get it, do you?  The point is, your
> * "accomplishments", according to your ideology, have nothing to do with
> * your inherent (bad word for you libs, I know) capabilities, but could be
> * duplicated by any Turd Worlder fresh off the boat.
 
> Anyone just off the boat may be able to match or surpass my
> accomplishments, Les, because each person is an individual. I don't lump
> them into a group, nor do I have any preconceived assumptions about their
> intelligence or potential to adjust and succeed in our society.
 
Your myopia is your problem, not mine.
 
> The people
> whom I have had the opportunity to meet and work with from other countries
> have usually been fluent in four or five languages, and their quest for
> knowledge is remarkable.
 
The "people" you've met from other countries are the cream of the crap,
the ones who are able to force their way into a White academic instituion,
or White society in general.  Hey, if you want a good look at what Turd
Worlders are REALLY like, visit one of their "countries", and see
first-hand what they're like WITHOUT Whites to guide them into paths
resembling civility.
 
> You would be considered a "Turd Worlder" in comparison to my international
> academic peers.
 
Would not. :-P
  
> If anyone just off the boat could do the same things that I have, then why
> are you such a loser? I know that you've achieved Barney Fife status in
> your profession and within the National Alliance, but you don't have any
> personal accomplishments that you can name except that you were born
> white. Now *that's* a reason to whoop-de-fucking-do, isn't it?
 
Well, Crazy, unlike you, I don't feel the need to come on here and tell
EVERYBODY about what a great person I am.  You know the old saying, "Empty
barrels make the most noise."  I think the speaker had the foresight to
realize liberal self-promotion would require non-stop chattering from them.
  
> Whatever I've accomplished has been greatly influenced by my parents'
> continual struggle to provide for their family, my necessity to adapt and
> survive in adverse conditions, and my unwavering stubbornness to fight for
> what I need for myself and others. My pasty white skin gave me none of
> those tendencies within myself, but it did make it easier for me to
> succeed in my life.
 
Ooh, Crazy, you're so NOBLE!
  
> * > You know what else, Les? I've still not revealed some of the more
> * > interesting things about myself, but my hubby and I have done some pretty
> * > remarkable things with our lives and for our community in the last few
> * > years.

> * *groan*

> You know that it's not polite to fart in public, don't you? Excuse yourself!
 
> * WHY do I get the impression that you'll tell us all about them, at great
> * length?

> Question: How do you keep a jackass in suspense?  staring into his monitor, jaw hanging open...>
 
Got you good, didn't I?  Fact, is, Crazy, you can't resist the urge to jaw
about yourself, and your gabbiness is no real problem - we ignore you at
will.
  
> * Lemme guess:  your resume includes, but is not limited to, having gone
> * among the ignorant masses (ie, the negroes) to preach about the
> * Brotherhood of Man? 

> You're wrong again. I don't have the time or patience to spend with any
> group of people that just bitches about their problems and wallows in
> their misery. My energy has gone toward people who are ready to stop being
> victims and begin making positive changes in their lives. I'll leave it to
> you to go into the ignorant masses to try and convince them that they are
> the master race.
 
Hah! again.  That's B.S. and you know it.  You're racist to the hilt: 
negro bitching is legitimate, while White recognition of REAL PROBLEMS is
a waste of time, in your anti-White racist world.
 
> * That would be just what I'd expect of one of you
> * lying liberals, after Couch Potato very accurately painted you liberals as
> * people who love minorities from afar.

> Opposed to someone like you, who vents his full hatred against a three
> year old neighborhood child because her father has black skin. You think
> that "liberals" claim to love everyone, don't you?
 
No, I don't.  I know that liberals hate proud Whites, mostly because they
(the proud Whites) remind the liberals of their own cowardice and hypocrisy.
 
Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Subject: Immigrants on welfare...
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I think the following speaks for itself...

    Immigrants account for big part of SSI growth, officials say
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Copyright =A9 1996 Nando.net
    Copyright =A9 1996 The Associated Press
    
    WASHINGTON (Feb 7, 1996 09:41 a.m. EST) -- Legal immigrants and refugees
    account for nearly 25 percent of the recent growth in one of the nation's
    fastest growing welfare programs, according to a congressional report.
    
    In December, 785,000 elderly, blind and disabled non-citizens were receiving
    cash payments from the Supplemental Security Income program, about 12
    percent of all SSI recipients, said the General Accounting Office report
    released Tuesday.
    
    The number of non-citizens on SSI rolls has risen more than 14 percent each
    year since 1985, mirroring recent increases in immigration to the United
    States, said Carolyn Colvin, a Social Security Administration deputy
    commissioner, told the Senate Judiciary's immigration subcommittee Tuesday.
    
    The House and Senate are preparing to vote on two Republican plans that
    would reduce the number of foreigners allowed to come to the United States
    to live. President Clinton has also said he'd like to see legal immigration
    reduced.
    
    The authors of the bills -- Sen. Alan Simpson, R-Wyo., and Rep. Lamar Smith,
    R-Texas -- say one of their goals is to cut abuse by immigrants who are
    drawn to this country because of its welfare programs.
    
    Democrats concede something must be done to curb abuse in SSI but say
    there's no need to cut legal immigration. Some have suggested Republicans
    are whipping up anti-immigrant sentiment.
    
    "There's nothing ugly or evil about what we're up to," Simpson said. "This
    is not about the ragged, the wretched or the homeless."
    
    He said he just wants to tighten rules that support a longstanding U.S.
    policy of keeping out immigrants likely to become burdens on the public.
    
    In 1988, about 643,000 non-citizens were admitted to the country for
    permanent residence, the most since 1924, Colvin said. That number rose to
    1.8 million in 1991, mostly because of the Immigration Reform and Control
    Act, which legalized 2.7 million illegal aliens.
    
    In 1994, more than 804,000 immigrants entered the United States.
    
    Overall, immigrants use all forms of welfare at roughly the same rate as
    citizens do, according to a study by the Urban Institute.
    
    But the number of new SSI applications from immigrants has more than tripled
    since 1982, said Susan Martin, executive director of the U.S. Commission on
    Immigration Reform, which was appointed by Congress.
    
    The number of aliens receiving SSI payments because of age increased from
    92,000 in 1982 to 459,220 in 1995, she said. Blind and disabled aliens on
    the rolls increased from 36,000 in 1982 to 326,190 in 1995.
    
    
Les
    
    
    
    

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Subject: Yeah, as if... (was: Who destroys houses? Racists.)
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evil Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> The other day a house in one of the most upscale neighborhoods here in 
> Birmingham, AL. burned to the ground. The house belonged to a successful 
> black business woman that had recently moved into this all-white 
> neighborhood. She had no problems with any of the neighbors as she is a 
> productive and contributing member of the community. When going through the 
> ruins of her burned down house, firefighters found scribblings on the walls 
> like "nigger", "white power", "KKK", and swastikas. Thankfully the whole 
> community is outraged and the PD has many officers on the case. My bet is 
> some rich suburban white kids in the community with nothing better to do 
> burned her house down because of pure and simple ignorance and meanness. 
> So who is it that would do these despicable things? - well, there you have 
> your proud "Aryan warriors". What a bunch of fucking cowards and losers.
> 
> eB

Have you ever considered the possibility that she pulled a "Tawana
Brawley" or "Sabrina Collins" to garner some publicity?

(for those who don't understand, T.B. and S.C. were a couple of negresses
who were subjected [in seperate incidents] to racist crimes.  Turns out
that the "crimes" were hoaxes, perpetrated by the negresses themselves).

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Feb 14 08:02:51 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: The National Alliance: Suppression of Ideas
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Rich Graves (rich@c2.org) writes:
> Henry Ayre  writes:
>>And some people might choose Beethoven's 9th Symphony over Seinfeld's
>>humor. H. Ayre.
> 
> Henry, I think there are plenty of people who enjoy both.
> 
> You can enjoy both in Israel and the United States of America. You would 
> not be able to enjoy both under a National Alliance regime.
> 
> That is the political choice.
> 
> The personal choice is, well, personal. You're entitled to hate whomever
> you want, but believe me, you're missing out. 

"Missing out" on what?  The scatological "humour" of a throwback like
Jerry Sienfeld?  Some loss.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The nobility of Crazy Jeannie (was: A Trip...)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) snivels:

(snip - Crazy getting really pissed about DDvincez not buying her
particular brand of crapola)

> * > _Who's Who Among Students in American Colleges and Universities_, 1992
> * > edition, page 874, column 2 paragraph 4. Look me up, asshole. Scholastic
> * > achievement - yep, community service and leadership - yep, honor society
> * > membership - yep times two, and volunteer service - yep. You know what the
> * > irony of this is, Les? I was a high school drop out at fifteen years of
> * > age! I enrolled in a community college at 33 years of age with a GED with
> * > no high school background whatsofuckingever. 
> * 
> * Whoop-de-fucking-do.  You just don't get it, do you?  The point is, your
> * "accomplishments", according to your ideology, have nothing to do with
> * your inherent (bad word for you libs, I know) capabilities, but could be
> * duplicated by any Turd Worlder fresh off the boat.
> 
> Anyone just off the boat may be able to match or surpass my
> accomplishments, Les, because each person is an individual. I don't lump
> them into a group, nor do I have any preconceived assumptions about their
> intelligence or potential to adjust and succeed in our society.

Your myopia is your problem, not mine.

> The people
> whom I have had the opportunity to meet and work with from other countries
> have usually been fluent in four or five languages, and their quest for
> knowledge is remarkable.

The "people" you've met from other countries are the cream of the crap,
the ones who are able to force their way into a White academic instituion,
or White society in general.  Hey, if you want a good look at what Turd
Worlders are REALLY like, visit one of their "countries", and see
first-hand what they're like WITHOUT Whites to guide them into paths
resembling civility.

> You would be considered a "Turd Worlder" in comparison to my international
> academic peers.

Would not. :-P
 
> If anyone just off the boat could do the same things that I have, then why
> are you such a loser? I know that you've achieved Barney Fife status in
> your profession and within the National Alliance, but you don't have any
> personal accomplishments that you can name except that you were born
> white. Now *that's* a reason to whoop-de-fucking-do, isn't it?

Well, Crazy, unlike you, I don't feel the need to come on here and tell
EVERYBODY about what a great person I am.  You know the old saying, "Empty
barrels make the most noise."  I think the speaker had the foresight to
realize liberal self-promotion would require non-stop chattering from them.
 
> Whatever I've accomplished has been greatly influenced by my parents'
> continual struggle to provide for their family, my necessity to adapt and
> survive in adverse conditions, and my unwavering stubbornness to fight for
> what I need for myself and others. My pasty white skin gave me none of
> those tendencies within myself, but it did make it easier for me to
> succeed in my life.

Ooh, Crazy, you're so NOBLE!
 
> * > You know what else, Les? I've still not revealed some of the more
> * > interesting things about myself, but my hubby and I have done some pretty
> * > remarkable things with our lives and for our community in the last few
> * > years.
> * 
> * *groan*
> 
> You know that it's not polite to fart in public, don't you? Excuse yourself!
> 
> * WHY do I get the impression that you'll tell us all about them, at great
> * length?
> 
> Question: How do you keep a jackass in suspense?  staring into his monitor, jaw hanging open...>

Got you good, didn't I?  Fact, is, Crazy, you can't resist the urge to jaw
about yourself, and your gabbiness is no real problem - we ignore you at
will.
 
> * Lemme guess:  your resume includes, but is not limited to, having gone
> * among the ignorant masses (ie, the negroes) to preach about the
> * Brotherhood of Man? 
> 
> You're wrong again. I don't have the time or patience to spend with any
> group of people that just bitches about their problems and wallows in
> their misery. My energy has gone toward people who are ready to stop being
> victims and begin making positive changes in their lives. I'll leave it to
> you to go into the ignorant masses to try and convince them that they are
> the master race.

Hah! again.  That's B.S. and you know it.  You're racist to the hilt: 
negro bitching is legitimate, while White recognition of REAL PROBLEMS is
a waste of time, in your anti-White racist world.

> * That would be just what I'd expect of one of you
> * lying liberals, after Couch Potato very accurately painted you liberals as
> * people who love minorities from afar.
> 
> Opposed to someone like you, who vents his full hatred against a three
> year old neighborhood child because her father has black skin. You think
> that "liberals" claim to love everyone, don't you?

No, I don't.  I know that liberals hate proud Whites, mostly because they
(the proud Whites) remind the liberals of their own cowardice and hypocrisy.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) snivels:
 
(snip - Crazy getting really pissed about DDvincez not buying her
particular brand of crapola)
 
> * > _Who's Who Among Students in American Colleges and Universities_, 1992
> * > edition, page 874, column 2 paragraph 4. Look me up, asshole. Scholastic
> * > achievement - yep, community service and leadership - yep, honor society
> * > membership - yep times two, and volunteer service - yep. You know what the
> * > irony of this is, Les? I was a high school drop out at fifteen years of
> * > age! I enrolled in a community college at 33 years of age with a GED with
> * > no high school background whatsofuckingever. 
 
> * Whoop-de-fucking-do.  You just don't get it, do you?  The point is, your
> * "accomplishments", according to your ideology, have nothing to do with
> * your inherent (bad word for you libs, I know) capabilities, but could be
> * duplicated by any Turd Worlder fresh off the boat.
 
> Anyone just off the boat may be able to match or surpass my
> accomplishments, Les, because each person is an individual. I don't lump
> them into a group, nor do I have any preconceived assumptions about their
> intelligence or potential to adjust and succeed in our society.
 
Your myopia is your problem, not mine.
 
> The people
> whom I have had the opportunity to meet and work with from other countries
> have usually been fluent in four or five languages, and their quest for
> knowledge is remarkable.
 
The "people" you've met from other countries are the cream of the crap,
the ones who are able to force their way into a White academic instituion,
or White society in general.  Hey, if you want a good look at what Turd
Worlders are REALLY like, visit one of their "countries", and see
first-hand what they're like WITHOUT Whites to guide them into paths
resembling civility.
 
> You would be considered a "Turd Worlder" in comparison to my international
> academic peers.
 
Would not. :-P
  
> If anyone just off the boat could do the same things that I have, then why
> are you such a loser? I know that you've achieved Barney Fife status in
> your profession and within the National Alliance, but you don't have any
> personal accomplishments that you can name except that you were born
> white. Now *that's* a reason to whoop-de-fucking-do, isn't it?
 
Well, Crazy, unlike you, I don't feel the need to come on here and tell
EVERYBODY about what a great person I am.  You know the old saying, "Empty
barrels make the most noise."  I think the speaker had the foresight to
realize liberal self-promotion would require non-stop chattering from them.
  
> Whatever I've accomplished has been greatly influenced by my parents'
> continual struggle to provide for their family, my necessity to adapt and
> survive in adverse conditions, and my unwavering stubbornness to fight for
> what I need for myself and others. My pasty white skin gave me none of
> those tendencies within myself, but it did make it easier for me to
> succeed in my life.
 
Ooh, Crazy, you're so NOBLE!
  
> * > You know what else, Les? I've still not revealed some of the more
> * > interesting things about myself, but my hubby and I have done some pretty
> * > remarkable things with our lives and for our community in the last few
> * > years.

> * *groan*

> You know that it's not polite to fart in public, don't you? Excuse yourself!
 
> * WHY do I get the impression that you'll tell us all about them, at great
> * length?

> Question: How do you keep a jackass in suspense?  staring into his monitor, jaw hanging open...>
 
Got you good, didn't I?  Fact, is, Crazy, you can't resist the urge to jaw
about yourself, and your gabbiness is no real problem - we ignore you at
will.
  
> * Lemme guess:  your resume includes, but is not limited to, having gone
> * among the ignorant masses (ie, the negroes) to preach about the
> * Brotherhood of Man? 

> You're wrong again. I don't have the time or patience to spend with any
> group of people that just bitches about their problems and wallows in
> their misery. My energy has gone toward people who are ready to stop being
> victims and begin making positive changes in their lives. I'll leave it to
> you to go into the ignorant masses to try and convince them that they are
> the master race.
 
Hah! again.  That's B.S. and you know it.  You're racist to the hilt: 
negro bitching is legitimate, while White recognition of REAL PROBLEMS is
a waste of time, in your anti-White racist world.
 
> * That would be just what I'd expect of one of you
> * lying liberals, after Couch Potato very accurately painted you liberals as
> * people who love minorities from afar.

> Opposed to someone like you, who vents his full hatred against a three
> year old neighborhood child because her father has black skin. You think
> that "liberals" claim to love everyone, don't you?
 
No, I don't.  I know that liberals hate proud Whites, mostly because they
(the proud Whites) remind the liberals of their own cowardice and hypocrisy.
 
Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Who destroys houses? Racists.
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Fragano Ledgister (fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu) writes:

(snip - eB's sob-story about a well-to-do negress [NOT an affirmative
action trophy, let me assure you!] who had her house burned down,
OBVIOUSLY by White supremacists)

> I suspect that the silence from such people as Richards, Griswold,
> Kleim &c. is going to be deafening. After all, the people who burned
> down that house were 'racially aware Whites' who can do no wrong.

No, Frango, what you're going to hear, not just from the three people you named 
above, is scepticism about the identities of the culprits.  Sounds a lot like 
Sabrina Collins to me, bud.

And speaking of silence, that's what we'll hear from the liberal
jew-controlled media when it's discovered that "Natsees" were NOT behind this.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Subject: Freedom, my ass (was: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance) 
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Rich Graves (rich@c2.org) writes:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> Sylvie Charbonneau (bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
>>
>> Is it the restriction of racial concerts by making
>> it damn near impossible to rent a hall?  How about the suppression of the
>> media?  How often have you ever seen a racially conscious person on TV
>> presenting a point of view that wasn't on Geraldo or some other trash talk
>> show?
> 
> Oh, every once in a while, on the news, when some stupid racist loser
> bashes somebody's head in for "the cause." There was also a lot of
> coverage of the bombing of the World Trade Center (by racially and
> religiously conscious fanatics),

And wasn't THAT a real kicker, when it was revealed that the bombers were
Muslims?

> the assassination of Prime Minister Rabin (by a religiously and perhaps
> racially conscious fanatic),

Come clean, Rich.  He was a JEW.  Don't use a JEWISH fanatic as an example
of what White Racists are like.

> and the bombing of the Oklahoma Federal Building (by a racially conscious
> fanatic

Yeah, so racially conscious that his good friend, and the #2 man in
the OKC bombing case, Terry Nichols, has a Filipina wife and is expecting
a mongrel kid, if indeed it hasn't already been born.

> inspired by the clearly loony Turner Diaries, which are not, in fact,
> censored in most countries). 

But _The Turner Diaries_ IS banned in Canada.
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Yeah, as if... (was: Who destroys houses? Racists.)
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>> 
>> evil Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
>> > The other day a house in one of the most upscale neighborhoods here in
>> > Birmingham, AL. burned to the ground. The house belonged to a successful
>> > black business woman that had recently moved into this all-white
>> > neighborhood. She had no problems with any of the neighbors as she is a
>> > productive and contributing member of the community. When going through the
>> > ruins of her burned down house, firefighters found scribblings on the walls
>> > like "nigger", "white power", "KKK", and swastikas. Thankfully the whole
>> > community is outraged and the PD has many officers on the case. My bet is
>> > some rich suburban white kids in the community with nothing better to do
>> > burned her house down because of pure and simple ignorance and meanness.
>> > So who is it that would do these despicable things? - well, there you have
>> > your proud "Aryan warriors". What a bunch of fucking cowards and losers.
>> 
>> Have you ever considered the possibility that she pulled a "Tawana
>> Brawley" or "Sabrina Collins" to garner some publicity?
>> 
>> (for those who don't understand, T.B. and S.C. were a couple of negresses
>> who were subjected [in seperate incidents] to racist crimes.  Turns out
>> that the "crimes" were hoaxes, perpetrated by the negresses themselves).
> 
> Only a complete moron like you would consider a successful woman actually 
> burning all her personal belongings as well as her dream house for 
> attention...

Who knows WHY niggers do things?

> I realize you think the incident is funny,

Not at all.  I do think that it's a pathetic attempt to show how "racist"
Whites are, when my local paper today had THREE stories about murderers
today, and ALL THREE were negroes, or mulattoes.  So cry me a fucking
river, Foot-boy.

> but decent people around here don't. They'll get those fucks.

And what if "those fucks" turn out to be negroes?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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ncrccjc (ncrccjc@ibm.net) writes:
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
>>william c anderson (libwca@curly.cc.emory.edu) writes:
>>> Sylvie Charbonneau (bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
>>>
> 
>>I'm just exposing the hypocrisy of the anti-racists.  The same people who
>>chant "No free speech for Nazis" whenever they demonstrate (which is damn
>>rare in the winter - too incovenient, I suppose).  Their argument is that
>>if the message isn't consistent with what is politically correct, then it
>>shouldn't be allowed.  At least the Alliance is forthright in what they
>>want - a society free of non-white influence.
>>
>>Sylvie Charbonneau
>>
> ncrccjc responds:
> 
> Poor sylvie, she just doesn't get it. The anti-nazi message is that Canadians
> are not interested in your hateful bile. Hatemongers drive a wedge into our
> mosaic and most Canadians wish that they would crawl back from under the
> rocks they emerged from.

Funny that you use the word "mosaic", there, ncr.  A mosaic is a fragile,
rigid, artificial construct that will shatter as soon as a force meets its
surface.

And you know better than to really believe that National Socialism is as
unpopular with Canadians as you try to make out.  It may be so to the
ivory-tower intellectuals, but not with the people who actually have to
LIVE with the results of 30-odd years of dysgenic government programs.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Rob "Yes dear, whatever you say dear" Kowalewski (robk@rio.com) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
>> Rob "Yes dear, whatever you say dear" Kowalewski [Boy! Les sure seems to
> get a kick out of this!](robk@rio.com) writes:
>> 
>> (snip)
>> 
>> > Les, it means that you and your compadres are what political analysts call
>> > *The Lunatic Fringe*.
>> > 
>> > Left-wing radicals disagree with you.
>> > Moderates disagree with you.
>> > Conservatives disagree with you.
>> > Most *ultraconservatives* disagree with you.
>> > Most athiests disagree with you.
>> > Most Christians disagree with you.
>> > (BTW, I base this on how our various posters identify themselves)
>> > As do Budists, Hindus, Baha'is, and Don't-Give-A-Rips.
>> 
>> Wobbie, you could have saved yourself a lot of typing, by bunching them
>> all together under "system whores".
> 
> I should probably defer to your obviously vast experience with whores.

As opposed to your experience with hysterical, shrieky harridans (uh,
that's your cue, Crazy)?

> I was just pointing out that a VERY broad spectrum of opinion finds your
> horseshit disagreeable. And I wanted you to take a moment to think about
> why that may be. Hey, I tried!

And you accomplished SFA.
  
(snip)

>> > Why not take just one second and consider that maybe, just maybe, the
>> > reason for the en-mass refutation of your doctrine is that it's WRONG-
>> > 
>> > Intellectually wrong.
>> > Scientifically wrong.
>> > Sociologically wrong.
>> > Morally (according to virtually all moral constructs) wrong.
>> 
>> The "wrongness" that you seem to gleefully rub your hands as you
>> contemplate is totally unsupported.  Your idea stems ONLY from liberal
>> screeching and wailing. 
> 
> One thing my experience here has shown me is how absolutely critical it is
> for you hatemongers to discard the mountain of serious evidence that
> refutes your lunatic belief system. You've provided another sterling
> example of that above.

BWAHAHAHA!!!  "... mountains of serious evidence...".  Geez, you crack me
up, Robbie, you really do!
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Feb 16 07:05:28 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: System whores (was: The bait more taken...)
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
> 
>> Rob "Yes dear, whatever you say dear" Kowalewski (robk@rio.com) writes:
>> 
>> (snip)
>> 
>> > Les, it means that you and your compadres are what political analysts call
>> > *The Lunatic Fringe*.
>> > 
>> > Left-wing radicals disagree with you.
>> > Moderates disagree with you.
>> > Conservatives disagree with you.
>> > Most *ultraconservatives* disagree with you.
>> > Most athiests disagree with you.
>> > Most Christians disagree with you.
>> > (BTW, I base this on how our various posters identify themselves)
>> > As do Budists, Hindus, Baha'is, and Don't-Give-A-Rips.
>> 
>> Wobbie, you could have saved yourself a lot of typing, by bunching them
>> all together under "system whores".
>> 
> 
> Left-wing radicals and ultra-conservatives are "system whores", are
> they?

Yes.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Feb 16 07:06:12 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: The bait more taken... (was: Geez...)
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Rob "Yes dear, whatever you say dear" Kowalewski (robk@rio.com) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
>> Rob "Yes dear, whatever you say dear" Kowalewski [Boy! Les sure seems to
> get a kick out of this!](robk@rio.com) writes:
>> 
>> (snip)
>> 
>> > Les, it means that you and your compadres are what political analysts call
>> > *The Lunatic Fringe*.
>> > 
>> > Left-wing radicals disagree with you.
>> > Moderates disagree with you.
>> > Conservatives disagree with you.
>> > Most *ultraconservatives* disagree with you.
>> > Most athiests disagree with you.
>> > Most Christians disagree with you.
>> > (BTW, I base this on how our various posters identify themselves)
>> > As do Budists, Hindus, Baha'is, and Don't-Give-A-Rips.
>> 
>> Wobbie, you could have saved yourself a lot of typing, by bunching them
>> all together under "system whores".
> 
> I should probably defer to your obviously vast experience with whores.

As opposed to your experience with hysterical, shrieky harridans (uh,
that's your cue, Crazy)?

> I was just pointing out that a VERY broad spectrum of opinion finds your
> horseshit disagreeable. And I wanted you to take a moment to think about
> why that may be. Hey, I tried!

And you accomplished SFA.
  
(snip)

>> > Why not take just one second and consider that maybe, just maybe, the
>> > reason for the en-mass refutation of your doctrine is that it's WRONG-
>> > 
>> > Intellectually wrong.
>> > Scientifically wrong.
>> > Sociologically wrong.
>> > Morally (according to virtually all moral constructs) wrong.
>> 
>> The "wrongness" that you seem to gleefully rub your hands as you
>> contemplate is totally unsupported.  Your idea stems ONLY from liberal
>> screeching and wailing. 
> 
> One thing my experience here has shown me is how absolutely critical it is
> for you hatemongers to discard the mountain of serious evidence that
> refutes your lunatic belief system. You've provided another sterling
> example of that above.

BWAHAHAHA!!!  "... mountains of serious evidence...".  Geez, you crack me
up, Robbie, you really do!
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Feb 16 07:06:13 PST 1996
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Subject: System whores (was: The bait more taken...)
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
> 
>> Rob "Yes dear, whatever you say dear" Kowalewski (robk@rio.com) writes:
>> 
>> (snip)
>> 
>> > Les, it means that you and your compadres are what political analysts call
>> > *The Lunatic Fringe*.
>> > 
>> > Left-wing radicals disagree with you.
>> > Moderates disagree with you.
>> > Conservatives disagree with you.
>> > Most *ultraconservatives* disagree with you.
>> > Most athiests disagree with you.
>> > Most Christians disagree with you.
>> > (BTW, I base this on how our various posters identify themselves)
>> > As do Budists, Hindus, Baha'is, and Don't-Give-A-Rips.
>> 
>> Wobbie, you could have saved yourself a lot of typing, by bunching them
>> all together under "system whores".
>> 
> 
> Left-wing radicals and ultra-conservatives are "system whores", are
> they?

Yes.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 17 09:51:53 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Yeah, as if... (was: Who destroys houses? Racists.)
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Fragano Ledgister (fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu) writes:
> R.C. Richards (xyz@scsn.net) wrote:
> : bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> : eB:
> : >> I realize you think the incident is funny,
> 
> : les:
> : >Not at all.  I do think that it's a pathetic attempt to show how "racist"
> : >Whites are, when my local paper today had THREE stories about murderers
> : >today, and ALL THREE were negroes, or mulattoes.  So cry me a fucking
> : >river, Foot-boy.
> 
> So, what is the point? One day's newspaper reports hardly make a
> summer.

The point is, Frango, that EVERY GOD-DAMN DAY there is at least ONE
picture of a negro criminal in the paper now.  I guess the media are
trying to cover their asses in case the accusations ever come up that
they're trying to conceal important evidence (heaven forfend that ANYONE
should EVER think THAT!)

And, Frango, one arson that MAY have been racially motivated hardly makes
a summer, either.  Wake up.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 17 09:51:55 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Liberal good cheer!
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You know what's really funny?  The fact that white liberals are going to
be targetted JUST AS MUCH as White Nationalists will be, when non-Whites
begin their riots in earnest.  White liberal women will be raped just as
often as "Natsee" women, white liberal males will be assaulted and/or killed 
just as often as White Nationalist men... you get the idea.  In fact, liberals
will almost certainly be targetted far out of proportion to their actual
numbers, because their silly ideas about racial equality force them to
lower their defenses around non-Whites, and any liberal male that is
actually galled by minority excess will have his instincts safely
nullified by his liberal indoctrination.  So, let's not be too hard on
them, because god knows, the non-Whites sure will be!

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 18 09:28:20 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Sikh table-cloths (was: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance)
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ncrccjc (ncrccjc@ibm.net) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> 
>>> There was tremendous outrage across Canada several years ago when Canadian
>>> Legion Halls refused to admit Sikh veterans because they would not remove
>>> their "hats".  No doubt there were people who supported the Legion's
>>> decision, but there were so many who did not that the Canadian Legion
>>> ended up in a rather embarrassing position.
>>
>>Actually, Fester, you're confusing the Legion with the RCMP.  The RCMP
>>appeal to have the turban decision overturned was rejected by the Supreme
>>Court; the Legions, on the other hand, are still holding the line on this
>>one, with an over EIGHTY PERCENT support for their position (ie, no
>>turbans or yarmulkes in Legion halls).  But, we can expect the liberal
>>do-gooders to stick their buttinsky noses into this one too, and force the
>>Legionnaires to "accept" this "diversity".
> 
> ncrccjc responds:
> 
> Les, Les, Les why is it that you always have to lie. Shame on you. In fact 
> your stats (please state where they can be found) are totally wrong. The 
> truth is that over 95% of all Legion Halls have dropped the requirement to
> remove religious headwear (verified by Dominion Command Royal Canadian
> legion).

In SPITE of what the membership wanted.  In a free vote, the membership
voted over eighty percent to continue the ban on head-dress (ANY
head-dress) in Legion halls.  This vote place in September 1994.  But
"Dominion Command" went right ahead and did the Politically Correct thing
anyway, disregarding the wishes of the membership.  Typical fare for what
happens in a democracy when whiny special-interest groups get uppity.

> Once again Les, you prove to the world that your figures are made up
> and that those like you and your ilk who believe in nazism must stretch the
> truth in order to sound credible. If you weren't such an unredeemable
> hatemonger we'd almost feel sorry for you.

Save your pity, jew.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 18 10:44:44 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Liberal good cheer!
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
> 
>> You know what's really funny?  The fact that white liberals are going to
>> be targetted JUST AS MUCH as White Nationalists will be, when non-Whites
>> begin their riots in earnest.  White liberal women will be raped just as
>> often as "Natsee" women, white liberal males will be assaulted and/or killed 
>> just as often as White Nationalist men... you get the idea.  In fact, liberals
>> will almost certainly be targetted far out of proportion to their actual
>> numbers, because their silly ideas about racial equality force them to
>> lower their defenses around non-Whites, and any liberal male that is
>> actually galled by minority excess will have his instincts safely
>> nullified by his liberal indoctrination.  So, let's not be too hard on
>> them, because god knows, the non-Whites sure will be!
> 
> What makes you think that there will be all these riots by
> non-whites in the future?

It's inevitable, you silly ass.  The mere presence of Whites serves as a
constant reminder to non-Whites of their almost total inferiority.  They
only have two choices:  total separation, or total annihilation of the
offending group.  B'sides, the growth in the numbers and the membership of
non-White radical groups is a pretty good indicator of the direction they
want to take.  Don't be fooled by Calypso Louis Farrakhan's demands for a
repatriation of negroes to Africa; he knows damn well that negroes could
never hack it on their own.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 19 08:37:09 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) runs interference for
Crazy Jeannie thusly:
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote: >>
>>Jeanne Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> 
> [edit]
> 
>>> Heh! It seems that you don't exist either, "Sylvie." Furthermore, there's
>>> no mention of your Mighty Morphin' older/younger/older kids. So, would you
>>> like to explain how Maclean's was 100% accurate about Ken McVay's family
>>> situation yet failed to describe "the family man" Les' situation
>>> correctly? 
>>
>>You seem to forget that Kenny was interviewed for Macleans.  We didn't
>>speak to them.
> 
> Perhaps the interviewer was uninterested in Ken McVay's family situation,
> since it is rather difficult to see how it would be directly relevant to
> the story. 

And yet mine was, strangely.

> Or perhaps Mr. McVay declined to answer questions about his family situation
> because he failed to see how it would be directly relevant to the story. 
> Whose business is it but his, after all?  

And yet, in my case, they thought it would be entirely appropriate to
speculate?  Amazing...
 
(snip)

> This is rather ironic coming right after a complaint about how white
> supremacists never get any media access. 

No, Fester, the complaint is, we never get UNBIASED coverage in any of the
media.  Pay attention.

> Is the Heritage Front uninterested in matters having to do with immigration? 

I'm sure that they are.  However, they should have asked members of the
Heritage Front for THEIR views.

> Mightn't the similar views of white supremacists who belong to another
> organisation be of interest?

Perhaps.  However, misrepresentation of purpose is another way of saying
"lying".  If they wanted to ASK about immigration, they could have SAID
they were interested in immigration.  Pay attention.  They asked me about
the Heritage Front and recruiting, NOT immigration.

> Gee, here was an opportunity to tell everybody about your great ethnic
> cleansing programme and you let it pass by??  I guess the real issue is
> not access to the media, but control over what the media says about
> white supremacist groups and their so-called policy platforms?  

Exactly.  Why are you so dense, Fester?

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 19 08:37:10 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
> 
> * Jeanne Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:

(snip)

> * > You believe everything that is written in Maclean's? How about this quote:
> * > 
> * >       ". . .  a down-at-the-heels white clapboard bungalow 
>                                       ^^^^^
> * >       with a 'Beware of dog' sign in the window and Hector 
> * >       the Rotweiler standing guard at the front door. The 
> * >       home of Les Griswold . . ." 
> * >             [source: MacLean's, May 8, 1995, p. 35]. 
> * 
> * Umm, somewhat right, but somewhat wrong.  Our bungalow is white.
> 
> Sheesh! Fifty lashes with a wet noodle for not seeing "white" in the
> original quote. What kind of National Socialist are you anyway?

And a HUNDRED lashes with that self-same noodle for you, for not seeing
her admission that the _Macclone's_ article is PARTLY right, but partly
wrong. 

(snip)

> Interesting. Les said that he was prohibited from talking to the media by
> your fearless leader (Dr. Pierce) and rules from the National Alliance
> handbook.

Exactly right.  Every time there is a request for information, I forward
the snoopy types to the Head Office.  With media whores, I don't bother.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 19 08:37:11 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Sikh table-cloths (was: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance)
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
>>> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
> 
> [edit]
>>Actually, Fester, you're confusing the Legion with the RCMP.  The RCMP
>>appeal to have the turban decision overturned was rejected by the Supreme
>>Court; the Legions, on the other hand, are still holding the line on this
>>one, with an over EIGHTY PERCENT support for their position (ie, no
>>turbans or yarmulkes in Legion halls).  But, we can expect the liberal
>>do-gooders to stick their buttinsky noses into this one too, and force the
>>Legionnaires to "accept" this "diversity".
> 
> No, I'm not confusing the RCMP with the Legion.  The Legion's central
> arm may still support the ban, but many individual Legion Halls have
> declined to support it. 

Actually, you have that completely, 100% ass-backwards.  The "central arm"
of the Legion has decreed that Sikhs MAY wear their chamois cloths into
Legion halls, and jews can wear their beanies.  This centralized
paternalism didn't sit well with many members.

> When it was pointed out the Calgary Legion, which claimed to uphold the ban
> on some higher principle actually allowed COWBOY HATS in their hall during
> the Calgary stampede, their hypocrisy was glaringly and embarrassingly
> apparent to all who cared to look.  

What was embarrassing was that the Legions in Calgary allowed that
argument to be made.  They SHOULD have responded like true White men, and
told the Sikhs and Jews that they just didn't want them around, period. 
That's the REAL motivation behind the foo-fer-raw over head-dress in
Legion halls, but thanks to multiracialism, the same men who carried
rifles and fought for their country are now afraid of telling it like it
is to a small group of alien minorities.

Say, do you remember the fiasco of the CJC calling for a boycott on
buying poppies after that?  Fell flat on its face.  Hope the jews keep
that sort of shit up, though (and knowing them, they will), so that
people can see how petty and snipy they get when they don't get their
own way.

(snip)

> Who said anything about the media keeping wraps on the Homolka or any
> other sentencing?  Many murder trials seem to qualify as pretty big news.
> Hasn't there been considerable publicity in Ottawa in recent days over
> the drive-by shooting of the British fellow?  Is that enough coverage
> for you, Unterobergraspenfutilenatenstrawsenfuehrer? 

That's another incident where the powers that be were torn between the racial
implications of the case, and using it as political hay for their anti-gun
crusade.  Looks like the political expediency of gun-grabbing gave the
marching orders on that one.
 
> Were you awake during the last couple of months when the Clinton Gayle (sp?)
> trial was going on in Toronto?  That was about as clear a picture as one
> ever gets, I think.  Then there was the major publicity in today's Toronto
> Star about the arrest in Miami of the young man wanted for three murders
> and several sexual assaults in Scarborough.  Where is the cover-up, Herr
> Oberclickenheelsenorendosencellsenbrainenfuehrer?    

And you haven't been paying attention to what I've been saying, which is
that the media are now identifying criminals by their race because they
don't want to be accused of being patsies for the government's program of
forcing us to live cheek-by-jowl with these non-Whites.  Wait for the
cries of "racism", which I'm sure are only a few days away.

(snip)

> Superficial resemblances to ideal phenotypes, together with genealogies.
> What part of hers (ie, Karla Homolka's) doesn't work for your select group of
> proper "white Europeans"? 

The fact that she's a mad-dog killer.

>>> The outrage over
>>> the sentence given her was so tremendous that several hundred thousand
>>> people signed a position requesting an investigation into her plea
>>> bargain (successfully, too).
>>
>>And how much outrage do you think there will be over the slap-on-the-wrist
>>that Sylvain Leduc's torturers/killers will inevitably get?  Try none.
> 
> "Will inevitably get"?  Well, Oberportentenfuturensilverenballenfuehrer,
> you may think that you can comment meaningfully on something that hasn't
> happened yet.  I'm not quite so presumptuous.

I'm not quite so Pollyanna.  I know that minorities are treated with care
and compassion.  BTW, Sylvain Leduc was White; his torturers/killers were
negroes.

Or maybe the Establishment will decide to sacrifice the killers to "prove"
that they're not easy on crime.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 19 08:55:46 PST 1996
Article: 14090 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The nobility of Crazy Jeannie (was: A Trip...)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article <4frlr7$itj@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ddivincenz@aol.com
> (DDivincenz) wrote:


(snip)

> * >You know what else, Les? I've still not revealed some of the more
> * >interesting things about myself, but my hubby and I have done some pretty
> * >remarkable things with our lives and for our community in the last few
> * >years.
> * 
> * For once you are  correct, to date you have revealed nothing interesting
> * about yourself. 
> 
> Well, dipshit, you reveal that (even though you claim to be college
> educated) that you cannot spell or punctuate correctly. Tell me, were you
> always this incompetent in your writing, or did you become progressively
> stupider after becoming a whit-prodder?

Ooh, the former proof-reader for some dinky newsletter speaks!

Les



--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 19 08:57:21 PST 1996
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article <4frlr7$itj@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ddivincenz@aol.com
> (DDivincenz) wrote:


(snip)

> * >You know what else, Les? I've still not revealed some of the more
> * >interesting things about myself, but my hubby and I have done some pretty
> * >remarkable things with our lives and for our community in the last few
> * >years.
> * 
> * For once you are  correct, to date you have revealed nothing interesting
> * about yourself. 
> 
> Well, dipshit, you reveal that (even though you claim to be college
> educated) that you cannot spell or punctuate correctly. Tell me, were you
> always this incompetent in your writing, or did you become progressively
> stupider after becoming a whit-prodder?

Ooh, the former proof-reader for some dinky newsletter speaks!

Les



--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 19 10:41:02 PST 1996
Article: 29961 of alt.activism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National
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ncrccjc (ncrccjc@ibm.net) writes:
>> ncrccjc responds:
>>>
>>> Poor sylvie, she just doesn't get it. The anti-nazi message is that Canadians
>>> are not interested in your hateful bile. Hatemongers drive a wedge into our
>>> mosaic and most Canadians wish that they would crawl back from under the
>>> rocks they emerged from.
>>
>>Funny that you use the word "mosaic", there, ncr.  A mosaic is a fragile,
>>rigid, artificial construct that will shatter as soon as a force meets its
>>surface.
>>
>>And you know better than to really believe that National Socialism is as
>>unpopular with Canadians as you try to make out.  It may be so to the
>>ivory-tower intellectuals, but not with the people who actually have to
>>LIVE with the results of 30-odd years of dysgenic government programs.
> 
> ncrccjc responds:
> 
> Just like you Les to make-up (lie) definitions of words to suit your own
> purposes.

I'm not making anything up.  I'm simply making the observation that
"mosaic" is an excellent description of Canadian "society", better than
you types intended.

> As for your analysis of Canadian feeling towards National Socialism (read
> nazism), I sure would like to see what studies you base your conclusions.
> As usual I suspect they don't exist.

You seem to have a sudden urge to ask people for "studies".  I wonder why
that is.  Been impressed with the stunning successes of the _shabbas
goyim_ in throwing this meaningless request at us?

But, since you ask so nicely, jew-boy, I'll oblige ya:  a study was
conducted by York University's Institue for Social Research.  1,257 people
were surveyed, almost equally divided between Whites, negroes and chinese.
 The study found, among other things, that 58% of Whites agreed with the
statement, "It's got (sic) to the point where visible minorities often get
better treatment than other Canadians."  67% of Whites ALSO agreed with
the statment that, "Visible minorities often bring discrimination upon
themselves by their own personal habits and attitudes."

Lest you think that Whites only had bad things to say about non-Whites,
85% of Whites also agreed with the statement, "Visible minorities have
made an important contribution to the cultural life of Canada."  79% of
Whites DISagreed with the statement, "Visible minorities are not prepared
to work as hard as other Canadians."

So there you have it, jew.  Far from being "racists", as you would define
it (ie, anyone who disagrees with a jew about ANYTHING), most Canadians
are tolerant of vizmins to a distressing degree, but also note that a
growing number are getting fed up with minority bitching, and the jewish
predisposition for seeing a "Natsee" under every bed.  Just a few more
years of your excesses, and then we'll see some REALLY interesting
attitudes being accepted in mainstream politics...

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 19 11:54:07 PST 1996
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ncrccjc (ncrccjc@ibm.net) writes:
>> ncrccjc responds:
>>>
>>> Poor sylvie, she just doesn't get it. The anti-nazi message is that Canadians
>>> are not interested in your hateful bile. Hatemongers drive a wedge into our
>>> mosaic and most Canadians wish that they would crawl back from under the
>>> rocks they emerged from.
>>
>>Funny that you use the word "mosaic", there, ncr.  A mosaic is a fragile,
>>rigid, artificial construct that will shatter as soon as a force meets its
>>surface.
>>
>>And you know better than to really believe that National Socialism is as
>>unpopular with Canadians as you try to make out.  It may be so to the
>>ivory-tower intellectuals, but not with the people who actually have to
>>LIVE with the results of 30-odd years of dysgenic government programs.
> 
> ncrccjc responds:
> 
> Just like you Les to make-up (lie) definitions of words to suit your own
> purposes.

I'm not making anything up.  I'm simply making the observation that
"mosaic" is an excellent description of Canadian "society", better than
you types intended.

> As for your analysis of Canadian feeling towards National Socialism (read
> nazism), I sure would like to see what studies you base your conclusions.
> As usual I suspect they don't exist.

You seem to have a sudden urge to ask people for "studies".  I wonder why
that is.  Been impressed with the stunning successes of the _shabbas
goyim_ in throwing this meaningless request at us?

But, since you ask so nicely, jew-boy, I'll oblige ya:  a study was
conducted by York University's Institue for Social Research.  1,257 people
were surveyed, almost equally divided between Whites, negroes and chinese.
 The study found, among other things, that 58% of Whites agreed with the
statement, "It's got (sic) to the point where visible minorities often get
better treatment than other Canadians."  67% of Whites ALSO agreed with
the statment that, "Visible minorities often bring discrimination upon
themselves by their own personal habits and attitudes."

Lest you think that Whites only had bad things to say about non-Whites,
85% of Whites also agreed with the statement, "Visible minorities have
made an important contribution to the cultural life of Canada."  79% of
Whites DISagreed with the statement, "Visible minorities are not prepared
to work as hard as other Canadians."

So there you have it, jew.  Far from being "racists", as you would define
it (ie, anyone who disagrees with a jew about ANYTHING), most Canadians
are tolerant of vizmins to a distressing degree, but also note that a
growing number are getting fed up with minority bitching, and the jewish
predisposition for seeing a "Natsee" under every bed.  Just a few more
years of your excesses, and then we'll see some REALLY interesting
attitudes being accepted in mainstream politics...

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 19 20:39:03 PST 1996
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) snivels:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> 
> [edit]
> 
>>What was embarrassing was that the Legions in Calgary allowed that
>>argument to be made.  They SHOULD have responded like true White men, and
>>told the Sikhs and Jews that they just didn't want them around, period. 
>>That's the REAL motivation behind the foo-fer-raw over head-dress in
>>Legion halls, but thanks to multiracialism, the same men who carried
>>rifles and fought for their country are now afraid of telling it like it
>>is to a small group of alien minorities.
> 
> You are so blinded by hatred (too much glaring white in your eyes, perhaps?)
> that you just ignore the facts of the incident that led to this disgraceful
> fiasco.  You know Unterwearencretincrawlinslimen Griswold, the Sikhs who
> were turned away from the legion hall in question were veterans of the
> British Army.  There are also Jewish veterans of the Canadian armed forces.
> Some of the men who fought for their country (and for the Allies more
> broadly) were Sikhs, Jews, black, and native Americans, to mention a
> few of the "alien minorities" you are so willfully blind to. 

Oh, cry me a fucking river.  To our eternal shame, we used non-Whites to
help defeat our racial kinsmen in Europe.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 19 20:39:04 PST 1996
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KT (speedy7@ibm.net) writes:
> Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk (Caesar) says:
> 
>>    potato@stlnet.com "Frank Weltner" writes:

>>> May the communist dogs hold their heads low forever for killing 15 million
>>> innocent Kulak farming peasants and targeting Jews and others for gulags,
>>> all in the name of humanity. Look where liberalism takes us.
>>
>>Since when has communism equalled liberalism?
> 
> Communism and liberalism are two sides of the same story. The one's just 
> a tad softer than the other. Maybe the most obvious reason, they're so
> identical is - as well as being sick and twisted - that they're both extremely
> lethal to the White Race. 

Or, as the old saying goes, "A communist is just a socialist in a hurry."

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 19 21:05:40 PST 1996
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Subject: From Ourobouros
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Ourobouros is having trouble with his ISP, so he asked me to post this for him, 
for the benefit of Tuthmosis III, and any other ignorant "'Gyptians was BLACK, 
man!" types...
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Subject: Even more debunking of Afrocenterism.
Crosspost:apw-p,the_niggers@soc.culture.african.american

According to "Tuthmosis III/Mighty Kushite" the civilisation of Egypt originated
further into Africa.  My first step was to disprove him, but alas, it would 
seem he offered a half-truth.  One author (Basil Davidson) stated that it 
started from the Green Sahara (when it was green as opposed to a desert) around
5,000-3,000 B.C.  He like the aforementioned Negro tries to attribute it 
entirely to Negroes, unfortunately not even in his book ("The Story of Africa"),
gives him due credit, pp. 39,42 & 43 all display (from the Ethiopian region) non
Negro featured reddish-brown men (their own depiction).  If I had been wilfully
ignorant as the aforementioned pos(t)er then I would also conclude that Negroes
had built one of the earliest and greatest civilisations (Egypt), however I'm
not. 

An interesting book titled "The Prehistory of Africa" by J. Desmond Clark makes
a devastating point (attributed to the time period 5,000-3,000 B.C), pp. 167:

"The non-Negro stock recognized in the Sahara is certainly not related to the
Mechta-Afalou [Negroid] race, but another race has been in northwest Africa and
here the resemblences are said to be close...It is appreciably less ruggard than
the Mechta-Afalou race; is long-headed; long-faced; of slender build and 
approaches a primitive Mediterranean type."

The civilisation that Basil Davidson mentions is therefore not a Negro built one
either.  It was this civilisation that migrated to the Nile Valley. Perhaps 
the "Mighty Kushite" is now going to call himself another name. Perhaps this 
civilisation was the first to experience "White-Flight" which is being 
demonstrated in the Western World at present (Whites moving to non-Negro 
areas).  If this is so it could explain why the (ancient) Egyptians, such as 
Sesostris I, hated Negroes so much that they wanted them dead if they so 
dared lay a foot on Egyptian soil.

As for the recent promotion of the "Land of Black (Kmt)" does the 
aforementioned Negro know what it means?  He seems to imply that it refers 
to the colour of the people.  Perhaps this meaning also explains why he 
adamantly believes in a non-existent bust being Negro (the bust of Menes).  
The Land of Black refers to
the soil as opposed to the sand dunes.

Could the aforementioned Negro also explain why Negroes would use black 
eyeliner, why the "Black" Ancient Egyptians thought white was pure, and why a
"Black" Pharoah such as Sesostris I would want all the Blacks in Egypt dead 
since they were also Black?  This would be so helpful.

Ourobouros.

Those, who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary 
safety,
deserve neither liberty or safety.
--Ben Franklin, Historical Review of Constitution and Government of Pennsylvania

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb 20 00:27:01 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Dinesh D'Souza
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Gabrielle Daniels (gdaniels@arcturus.oac.uci.edu) writes:
> On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Tha Harrisman wrote:
> 
>> I have not read his book, but I've seen him speak his mind a
>> few times.  My question is this...
>> 
>> Can a man who's never really experienced what I and others in
>> my boat have, break it down and offer a solution to it?  It;s
>> almost like a wall street exec telling a doctor how to treat a
>> disease.  Would you give his diagnosis much air seeing that
>> he's not educated on the disease?
>> 
> 
> No.  No.  A thousand times, no.
> 
> Angela Davis wrote him every which way but no place on CNN several months 
> back (from what my stepfather said).  Call them up and ask for a copy of 
> the debate, if a total rubout could be called a debate.
> 
> Dinesh D'Souza has simply accomplished what he could not become in Britain
> with the rest of his relatives, a certified white man with privilege.
> These well-financed apologists are part and parcel of disinformation about
> what racism is, especially institutionalized racism...by whites who want
> to keep the status definitely quo.  As a result of his book, "The End of
> Racism," a number of highly-placed black conservatives bailed out of
> predominantly white conservative organizations, who supported the book, in
> protest. 
 
... and I'm sure they'll be sorely missed... NOT!

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Gabrielle Daniels (gdaniels@arcturus.oac.uci.edu) writes:
> On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Tha Harrisman wrote:
> 
>> I have not read his book, but I've seen him speak his mind a
>> few times.  My question is this...
>> 
>> Can a man who's never really experienced what I and others in
>> my boat have, break it down and offer a solution to it?  It;s
>> almost like a wall street exec telling a doctor how to treat a
>> disease.  Would you give his diagnosis much air seeing that
>> he's not educated on the disease?
>> 
> 
> No.  No.  A thousand times, no.
> 
> Angela Davis wrote him every which way but no place on CNN several months 
> back (from what my stepfather said).  Call them up and ask for a copy of 
> the debate, if a total rubout could be called a debate.
> 
> Dinesh D'Souza has simply accomplished what he could not become in Britain
> with the rest of his relatives, a certified white man with privilege.
> These well-financed apologists are part and parcel of disinformation about
> what racism is, especially institutionalized racism...by whites who want
> to keep the status definitely quo.  As a result of his book, "The End of
> Racism," a number of highly-placed black conservatives bailed out of
> predominantly white conservative organizations, who supported the book, in
> protest. 
 
... and I'm sure they'll be sorely missed... NOT!

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Feb 21 06:02:52 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
> 
> * Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
> * > bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:

(snip)

> * >>You seem to forget that Kenny was interviewed for Macleans.  We didn't
> * >>speak to them.
> * > 
> * > Perhaps the interviewer was uninterested in Ken McVay's family situation,
> * > since it is rather difficult to see how it would be directly relevant to
> * > the story.
> * 
> * So why would our family situation be  "directly relevant to the story"? 
> 
> You are directly involved in the National Alliance and, presumably, have a
> partnership with Les. The media knew about your dog. Why didn't they know
> about you?

You really get a thrill out of this Maclean's thing, don't you?

Look, deerheart, Kenny McOyVay is directly involved in fighting us on the
'Net.  His family situation has EXACTLY as much bearing on his pursuits as
does mine, ie none.  Yet, _Macclone's_ saw fit to make digs at me that it
never would have even DREAMT of making about Keeny McOyVay, who, after
all, is a "good" guy.

(snip)

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Questions for the Canadian Jewish Congress!! 2nd try
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ncrccjc (ncrccjc@ibm.net) writes:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>ncrccjc (ncrccjc@ibm.net) writes:

(snip)

>>> Poor Joe, Now he belives I'm the anti-christ!! I think some time in the same
>>> hospital as Les Griswold is in order.

>>And yet, I notice that you didn't address a single thing that Joe Lockhart
>>put up as the words of Irving Abella, yet you were too stupid to delete
>>them.  Why's that?

> Les, Prof. Abella's statements are obvious. He is a  proud Jewish Canadian
> who argues passionately for Canada and the continuity of the Jewish people.
> But with an IQ of under 50 its not hard to understand that you would have
> trouble  figuring this out.

Well, at least you were clever enough to delete them THIS TIME.  And hey,
you only had to be told once!  But seriously, "Prof." Abella ALSO is
arguing AGAINST assimilation.  Could you explain that one?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Feb 21 06:02:54 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) defends the noble warriors of 
the left thusly: 
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:

(snip)
 
>>> Where ever do you get the idea that most "anti-racists" don't work?
>>
>>The fact that most of them (in the Ottawa area, at least) are a bunch of
>>unwashed, purple-haired, nose-pierced degenerates.  The fact that most of them
>>are also able to hold "rallies" and demonstrations at any time of the day
>>or night is also a pretty good indicator.  The fact that a lot of them are
>>rabid International Socialists who are constantly flogging their "Socialist
>>Worker" paper on the streets of downtown Ottawa during work hours is
>>another big indicator.
> 
> Gosh, for someone who gets all hot under the collar about unfair and
> inaccurate stereotyping of skinheads, you sure are ready to jump to 
> conclusions about the face of "anti-racists". 

She's not "jumping to conclusions", or "stereotyping", Fester.  She's
relaying ACCURATE information about anti-racist types in Ottawa.

> Gee, they sound a lot like young folks of any ilk. 

Where HAVE you been getting your pictures of "young folks", Fester?

> So having purple hair or a pierced nose
> is a symbol that someone doesn't work?  Maybe the ones who have made
> such a strong impression on you sell papers for a living (there are 
> people who do eke out a living that way, you know).  Perhaps we could
> take a survey of those here who would describe themselves as anti-racists
> to see how accurate your stereotype is.  I know a lot of people who are
> not racist (at least in the sense that you are), but I don't know a single
> soul with purple hair, nor can I claim to have any close friends with
> pierced noses.  

Fester, you probably can't claim to have ANY friends, let alone a freakish
assortment like we see "proudly" proclaiming to be "anti-Nazis".

And your idea of taking a survey of "anti-racists" would be essentially
useless, since people opposed to us are sort of in the habit of, well,
"fabricating" to "prove" us "Natsees" wrong.

>>The fact that if any politician even thinks about cutting welfare sends
>>them screaming in the streets in protest is also a pretty good indicator.
>>Face it, most working people WANT welfare to be cut for able bodied
>>nitwits like them.
> 
> The demonstrations in Toronto in front of Queen's Park when Harris
> announced the cuts to welfare drew a far more diverse crowd than you
> are suggesting.  Many of them were single mothers who can't make ends
> meet on a minimum wage job if they have to pay for day-care.  But I'm
> sure you know better.

Oh, boo-hoo-hoo.  And yet they have time to demonstrate, and in the case
of university students, to vandalize?
 
>>> You refer any media requests for interviews or information to the head
>>> office, rather than speaking to them, and then turn around and complain
>>> about lack of media access.  I guess you need to buy Macleans or something
>>> to get the kind of "even-handed" coverage that is your right to expect.
>>
>>See, there's something called "cause and effect" that you haven't though
>>of.  We used to give interviews, with the Head Office's consent.  Then,
>>the SRC decided to play dirty.  Since then, we don't give interviews.  Why
>>is this so hard for you to understand?  If the SRC hadn't lied to us, we
>>would probably still be giving interviews.
> 
> I have no idea who/what the SRC is/are.  

Service Radio Canada.  The French CBC.

(snip)

>>But yet, our wish for privacy is irrelevant, right?  We didn't ask for the
>>Ottawa Citizen or MacLean's to describe our house, did we?  We didn't ask
>>for MacLean's to name our dog, did we?  Had we wished so, we would have
>>given them an interview.
> 
> Gosh, for someone who doesn't believe in "equal rights", you sure do
> expect equality of treatment under the media.  Why is that a reasonable
> expectation, given your "philosophy" about equality in other spheres?

This is really funny.  How, all of a sudden, does our philosophy (about
which you know jack-shit) determine our treatment by the media?  I know
that media whores are an amoral bunch, but this really stretches it. 
Adopting what they think is our philosophy to justify their "work"?

> I suppose you feel threatened now that people know your house is white
> (I'm sure it is the only white house in the area).  And that your dog
> is at risk.  Get a life.  If you don't want to be the object of media
> scrutiny, get off the lunatic fringe where you advocate violent 
> revolutionary change to the fabric of Canadian society.

Jeepers.  This sounds like the "If a woman didn't want to get raped, she
wouldn't wear those sorts of clothes/wouldn't walk there/whatever."
argument.  Blame the victim.


Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Steve Garza (sgarza@csubak.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> 
>  
>> Oh, cry me a fucking river.  To our eternal shame, we used non-Whites to
>> help defeat our racial kinsmen in Europe.
> 
> But Les, the're in Europe. That means over time they will diversify and
> change and be different from you. American English is not exactly the same
> as British English.

Oh, for crying out loud...

We KNOW that, dick-drip.  We have NEVER denied the differences that exist
WITHIN the White race.  But, we have maintained time and again, that the
differences WITHIN the White race are much smaller than the differences
that exist between a White and a non-White.  

Gawd, you're such a twit.  If you're the best the liberals can come up
with, we've already cinched this thing.

> Over time, who is to say white Americans and Canadians
> won't be very different in their look and manners than white europeans?
> You hate non-whites because they developed differently by being
> geographically away from YOUR population. Who is to say that "Europeans"
> will consider YOU their kinsman? Eh Lester?

What sort of time-scale are we talking here, Stevie?  And are you
admitting that, well yes, there ARE differences between racial groups?

As far as European censure goes:  evil Beavis doesn't care overly much for
me, yet I still manage to find the strength to go on.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> * Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:

(snip)

> * > When you speak of ground rules in a debate, you must consider that Les and
> * > other National Socialists have admitted that they will say anything to
> * > further their cause.
> 
> And Les throws a hissy fit and starts yelling:
> 
> * WHOA, WHOA, WHOA!!!  When and where, Crazy?  Provide 
> * a post where _I_ said this, not anyone else. If you can't, shut up.
> 
> Or what, cockroach-boy? Are you going to get on your telephone and dial
> 1-800-PIGTURD to order a Tim MacVeigh Exploding Bouquet for me? I'm afraid
> that I'm just not impressed by your tantrums or threats.

Again, your liberal arrogance assumes that what you say is taken as
important by us.  Face it, Crazy, you're just an insignificant little
pimple on the ass of life.
 
> Far be it from you to admit that that you routinely lie in order to
> promote your bigotry. No, you just squeeze out one whopper after another
> without a shread of evidence to back you up. You did write this awhile
> back, however:
> 
>           In message  (Subject: Can 
>           Chuckie really be THIS paranoid?), you wrote:
>  
>           No, the real program of the National Alliance is to PRESERVE the
>           White race, through whatever means are NECESSARY.  I really
>           don't understand what your obsession is with killing non-Whites.
> 
> You are not going to try and say that "through whatever means are
> NECESSARY" does not include stretching the truth to support your comrades
> or organization, are you? Are members of the elite Vanguard told "Yeah, do
> whatever it takes to protect the NA except mislead our enemies."? You've
> said that you're already in an undeclared racial war. Will the might Aryan
> warrior refuse to serve his fearless leader when asked to spread
> propaganda?

No, I've said that WE'RE in an undeclared racial war.  Admit it or not,
Crazy, YOU'RE going to be targetted by non-Whites solely because of your
complexion.
 
>           In message  (Subject: Re: 3rd 
>           World "qualifications"), you stated:
> 
>           I can too define the Aryan race.  It's only quibblers like you who 
>           assume that, once defined, we can't be flexible.  Sorry, we can.
> 
> Ah, notice the Griswold bluff and bluster CYA maneuver when he can't/won't
> define the differences between white, White, and Aryan.

(heaves a big sigh, as if talking to a retarded child)
By "flexible", I meant that we are willing to MODIFY our definition of
white as more information becomes available.  The same thing occurred with
our discussion of hemophilia.  Someone (Groppi, I think) pointed out that
my proposal to ban reproduction of hemophiliacs would have to extend to
their female relations in order to be effective.

(snip - an archived message from Stormfront, apparently to create paranoia)
 
Crazy, you really should learn to edit, so that you can make your point
with a minimum of clutter.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Adam 3T (adam3t@aol.com) writes:
> Dear Les:
>      Suck my Jewish cock all day.  Suck it dry.

Uh, no thanks.

>     All the best,

Good to see that you're not angry.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Feb 22 13:38:51 PST 1996
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THE MIGHTY KUSHITE (rhd102@email.psu.edu) writes:
> Ah , yes . African women are most unattractive right ? Everything from 
> thier full lips , and smooth dark skin , to thier well endowed  erogenous 
> zones .

And the nifty way they store excess fat on their bodies... and their hair,
which, at best, looks like a cheap wig made of wool... and their backwards
sloping, reminiscent-of-an-ape, face... geez, dunno WHY I ever missed it
before.

(snip)

> Lets see , there is quite a long list of things (cosmetic) that are very 
> popular among whites . Just go to the beaches during the hot seasons and 
> you will find thousands upon thousands of whites laying around soaking up 
> rays , getting skin cancer ; just so they can get brown . Or , in the 
> cold seasons ; the tanning salons (giant microwave ovens) are swarming 
> with pail individuals who want very badly to be brown skinned .

Tanning is NOT becoming negro, with all that that implies:

-higher crime rates
-lower IQ

> We can also find in stores ; that browning lotion (paint) that so many use
> to color themselves . And I dont think that these people are performing in 
> black-face . Whats with this ? Are these people not satisfied with thier 
> pail "Aryan" features . 

Yep, that's real conclusive, in light of the fact that hair-straitener
sells so well to negroes and negresses.

> Hmm , there is also a surgical proceedure that involves the injection of 
> fat into the lips so that the individual may have full lips . And we cant 
> forget those breast and buttocks inplants ; those seem to be the most 
> popular of them all . So , all this so they can look like , or close to 
> Naomi Cambel . 

You're really reaching, boy.

> Look all im saying is ; dont be so quik to undermind African features 
> when so many of your "own kind" are mutating themselves to have those 
> same features .  

... who doesn't seem to understand that the word he should have used is
"mutilating", not "mutating".

But in any event, why are you using examples of decadence and degeneracy
as "proof" of whatever it is you're arguing?

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Subject: WHITE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE BROUGHT CIVILIZATION TO UNGRATEFUL SAVAGES
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It's the truth

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Feb 23 07:12:05 PST 1996
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) whimpers:
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:

(snip)
 
>>Would you hire someone with purple hair?  I sure wouldn't.
> 
> If they had what it took to do the job, I would hire someone with purple
> hair.  And I would hire someone with "nonwhite" skin, too.  Would you?

Not only are you a Grade-1 asshole, Fester, you're a shameless liar too. 
Do you really expect ANYONE to believe your Politicaly Correct chirping
about hiring with merit the ONLY criteria?  How about a qualified White
Nationalist?

(snip)

> I suppose you see all organised labour as part of your scary, spooky 
> "International Socialists", too. 

Mostly because it's true.  Most organized labour (or, to put it plainly,
union workers) are not, I am sure, members of the I.S., but the leadership
of those unions have a startling degree of agreement with the commies.

> ... You really do believe that people are sheep, and that, I guess, is why
> you are deluded enough to think that people are going to fall for the bull
> roar you tout as "social analysis" and "national policy".

Well, with people like you around, it is perfectly correct to come to the
conclusion that the majority of people are sheep.  Again, using you as an
example, they are probably stupid, easily flustered ones.

(snip)

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) simpers:
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:

(snip)

>>Ask Alicia Recksin, that great voice of tolerance, about how she feels
>>about murdering racists.  I believe the quote is "It's OK to kill a nazi,
>>in the self-defence mode".  Yet, I haven't heard anyone say a peep about
>>this.[edit for brevity, I have no idea what you are blathering about]
> 
> Is this the 5'2" woman who had her nose broken when she was kicked in the
> face by several racists?  Our government does permit killing in self-
> defence.  Since I don't have the quotation, nor do I trust your "belief"
> about the quotation, I don't think it makes a lot of sense to discuss 
> what she might or might not have said (and in what context?).  

She did indeed say exactly that, on the _Shirley_ show, back in 1994.  We
have the transcript, and can post the exact information for you, Fester.

For shame.  Your teachers are certainly ashamed and embarrassed by your
clumsy attempts to refute us.  You're going to have to do better if you
want to play in the big leagues.

(snip)

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Feb 23 09:03:38 PST 1996
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FreshAgain (freshagain@aol.com) writes:
> Fact is, Mr. Hitler, is that there are many ways of being Jewish, and many
> forms of Jewishness.  Ultimately, the best definition is tribal.  You
> belong to this tribe called Judaism, which you can be born into if you
> have matrilineal descent (as designated by Ezra), or you can convert into.
>  One of the aspects of this tribe is that it ascribes one to believe in a
> certain religion.  You can reject the religion, but your tribal
> affiliation remains, unless you convert outright to another religion. 
> Then you're not in the tribe anymore.  Most converts into the tribe are
> required to accept the religion of the tribe.  Once converted, though, the
> descendants of that convert are still members of the tribe, though they
> may reject the religion.
> 
> The tribe is not ethnic or racial.  Members come from all races and all
> areas of the world,though the vast majority are of Eastern European
> descent.
> 
> Got all that, Adolf?

Yes.  Too bad it's all a load of crap.

> Thanks for asking.

And I suppose thanks are in order for your answer... NOT.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Feb 23 09:03:39 PST 1996
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article <0080F62F.fc@nile.com> Roena@nile.com "Roena" writes:
> 
>> The added irony is that young white female flesh is preferred by males of all
>> colours. 
> 
> Evil Beavis (who is white) prefers Black women.

Boy, THAT'S something to be real proud of!

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> THE MIGHTY KUSHITE wrote:
>> 
>> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>> >
>> >THE MIGHTY KUSHITE (rhd102@email.psu.edu) writes:
>> >> Ah , yes . African women are most unattractive right ? Everything from
>> >> thier full lips , and smooth dark skin , to thier well endowed  erogenous
>> >> zones .
>> >
>> >And the nifty way they store excess fat on their bodies
>> 
>> Whatever .
> 
> Les is just jealous because his imaginary wife hasn't figured out a "nifty 
> way" to store her excess fat!

Oh, you mean like having a yard-wide ass?  That's desirable?

>> .. and their hair,
>> >which, at best, looks like a cheap wig made of wool...
>> 
>> Yes , if kept long and unkept . But otherwise ; i'll take a woman with
>> thick long braided hair any day . This is corny but , look at Brandy .
>> You know , the black female pop sensation ; typical of pure African
>> beauty . For her hair is not straight , it is wooly just as Herodotus
>> described the hair of the Egyptians . And she keeps it braded , just like
>> the women and men of Ancient Egypt and contemporay Africa .
> 
> Most African women and men, well at least in southern Africa, tend to keep 
> their hair natural and close cropped. It's more convenient that way they say.

They're just using "convenience" to cover the fact that they can't do
anything else with that ratty steel-wool without hair-weaves.  

>> and their backwards
>> >sloping, reminiscent-of-an-ape, face... geez, dunno WHY I ever missed it
>> >before.

(snip)

>> >But in any event, why are you using examples of decadence and degeneracy
>> >as "proof" of whatever it is you're arguing?
>> 
>> Im not making any argument . I simply made an interesting observation .

Your "observation" consisted of some half-assed "observations", and the
conclusion that White women do these things so that they can look like
Naomi Campbell, or something like her.

>>  Why are so damn offended ? I did'nt insult you or whites in general .

I'm offended because you're taking what WE have given you (ie, literacy
and knowledge of how to use a computer), and using it to put forth your 
negrophile lies. 

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Steve Garza (sgarza@csubak.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
>> It's the truth
> 
> Fuck off Les. Brown people from the middle east brought you Europeans
> argiculture, writing, and "western" religion.

Wrong, greaser.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Feb 23 15:39:25 PST 1996
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Steve Garza (sgarza@csubak.edu) writes:

(snip)

Moi: 
>> > We KNOW that, dick-drip.  We have NEVER denied the differences that exist
>> > WITHIN the White race.  But, we have maintained time and again, that the
>> > differences WITHIN the White race are much smaller than the differences
>> > that exist between a White and a non-White.  
> 
> By the way Les, I'll help you out, just to show that THAT INDEED I DO KNOW
> THE DIFFERENCE! An individual black compared to an individual white may
> indeed be more different than between that white person and most members
> of his race. But you characterize entire groups and compare them unfairly.
> You cannot compare the black race with a single black or a single white.
> When you look at gene flow and realize that you only get 50% of your
> genetic code from either parent, you realize that you really can't claim a
> monopoly on anything genetically.

???

> You also realize that claiming ancestry
> to some great great great grandparent doesn't mean very much. Tell me Les,
> are there dwarfs in both the white and black race? Are there bald people
> in both the black and white race? Are there any people descended from
> blacks who have straight hair? Where did curly hair come from in the white
> race? The questions go on and on.

Apparently.

Steve, you're too stupid for words.  We're not interested in discussing
the A-B-Cs with you mental retards.  Since you can't wrap your little
ferret-like minds around the concept that Nationalism includes BOTH
mechanics AND morality, I'm not gonna bother explaining it to you.  I'm
just going to take cheap shots at you whenever I fucking well feel like it.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (whakobitch@padded.cell.org) writes:

(snip)

> Okay, it wasn't a baseball bat. According to Les, it was a wooden cane:

Yes, I described it as a wooden cane for two reasons:

1)  The effect is EXACTLY the same, (ie, a long, hard wooden object)

2)  You assholes wouldn't know what a bo-ken is if one kicked you in the
posteriors.

>           Subject: We know what this fool McVay is about 
>           (was: Who is this fool Griswold?) 
>           Message-ID: 
>           Sender: bn946@freenet3.carleton.ca (Les Griswold)
> 
>           There was one funny incident back in April.  This guy from
>           a local paper, name of Mike Blanchfield, came over when  I
                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>           was at work (hmm!) and Sylvie went to answer the door, of
            ^^^^^^^^^^^
>           course.  There's a wooden cane by the door for intruders, 
>           and Sylvie was reaching for it while she was still ascertaining 
>           who he was and what his purpose was.  She says that his 
>           eyes bugged out and he went white as a ghost, probably 
>           thinking that she was reaching for a double-barrel to let him 
>           have it!  Damn, I wish I had seen that!
> 
> --------------------

I underlined the part where I said that Blanchefield hauled his pathetic
ass to our house DURING WORKING HOURS, because you seem too thick to
understand this:  if you want to talk to someone, you approach them when
you're likely to actually encounter them.  Blanchefield apparently bought
too deeply into the anti-racist _scheisse_ about unemployed "Natsees".

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Fri Feb 23 23:33:40 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (whakobitch@padded.cell.org) writes:

(snip)

> Okay, it wasn't a baseball bat. According to Les, it was a wooden cane:

Yes, I described it as a wooden cane for two reasons:

1)  The effect is EXACTLY the same, (ie, a long, hard wooden object)

2)  You assholes wouldn't know what a bo-ken is if one kicked you in the
posteriors.

>           Subject: We know what this fool McVay is about 
>           (was: Who is this fool Griswold?) 
>           Message-ID: 
>           Sender: bn946@freenet3.carleton.ca (Les Griswold)
> 
>           There was one funny incident back in April.  This guy from
>           a local paper, name of Mike Blanchfield, came over when  I
                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>           was at work (hmm!) and Sylvie went to answer the door, of
            ^^^^^^^^^^^
>           course.  There's a wooden cane by the door for intruders, 
>           and Sylvie was reaching for it while she was still ascertaining 
>           who he was and what his purpose was.  She says that his 
>           eyes bugged out and he went white as a ghost, probably 
>           thinking that she was reaching for a double-barrel to let him 
>           have it!  Damn, I wish I had seen that!
> 
> --------------------

I underlined the part where I said that Blanchefield hauled his pathetic
ass to our house DURING WORKING HOURS, because you seem too thick to
understand this:  if you want to talk to someone, you approach them when
you're likely to actually encounter them.  Blanchefield apparently bought
too deeply into the anti-racist _scheisse_ about unemployed "Natsees".

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 00:13:36 PST 1996
Article: 14350 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Nigerian-Finn selected as Miss Finland 1996
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Ole Kreiberg (olk@login.dknet.dk) writes:
>>bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

>   Eugene Holman is not a Scandinavian but an American (probably a Jew as
> far as I can understand from a debate I had with him in soc.culture.nordic) 
> living in Finland. Finland is one of those countries in Europe which has
> the most restrictive policy toward immigration of so-called political 
> "refugees".
> 
> Ole Kreiberg

My apologies.  He's still a moron, though.
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 00:14:40 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Nigerian-Finn selected as Miss Finland 1996
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Ole Kreiberg (olk@login.dknet.dk) writes:
>>bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip)

>   Eugene Holman is not a Scandinavian but an American (probably a Jew as
> far as I can understand from a debate I had with him in soc.culture.nordic) 
> living in Finland. Finland is one of those countries in Europe which has
> the most restrictive policy toward immigration of so-called political 
> "refugees".
> 
> Ole Kreiberg

My apologies.  He's still a moron, though.
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 00:14:40 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance
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Kenny McOyVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:

(snip - stuff about anti-racists)

Moi: 
>>>She's not "jumping to conclusions", or "stereotyping", Fester.  She's
>>>relaying ACCURATE information about anti-racist types in Ottawa.
> 
> Horsepucky, Mr. Griswold. I personally met over 300
> anti-racists during my Ottawa visit - spoke to them, had
> coffee with them, exchanged greetings, and generally
> socialized  with them for several hours.

Well, goody for you.  Are you bucking for another medal?  Whattsa matter, the 
OBC turning green on you already?

(snip - rest of Kenny McOyVay spittle deleted)

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 05:38:01 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Nigerian-Finn selected as Miss Finland 1996
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Jew Rosenboig (joelr@winternet.com) writes:
> In article  jabowery@netcom.com (Jim Bowery) writes:
> 
>>Eugene Holman (holman@katk.helsinki.fi) wrote:
>>: ... in a country ...
>>: with an overabundance of attractive
>>: blond-haired, blue-eyed women
> 
>>One pauses to wonder if "overabundance" is a term Hitler used to describe 
>>Jews at one point.
> 
> Probably.  But, then again, Holman isn't putting attractive, blond-haired, 
> blue-eyed women in death camps.

Oh, calm down, Jojo.  You're drooling all over your caftan.
 
Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 05:43:55 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Nigerian-Finn selected as Miss Finland 1996
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Jew Rosenboig (joelr@winternet.com) writes:
> In article  jabowery@netcom.com (Jim Bowery) writes:
> 
>>Eugene Holman (holman@katk.helsinki.fi) wrote:
>>: ... in a country ...
>>: with an overabundance of attractive
>>: blond-haired, blue-eyed women
> 
>>One pauses to wonder if "overabundance" is a term Hitler used to describe 
>>Jews at one point.
> 
> Probably.  But, then again, Holman isn't putting attractive, blond-haired, 
> blue-eyed women in death camps.

Oh, calm down, Jojo.  You're drooling all over your caftan.
 
Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 05:43:56 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The nobility of Crazy Jeannie (was: A Trip...)
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Chris Macleod (cmacleod@chat.carleton.ca) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
>> These "scholars" you harp on about are words taken out of context by you
>> liberal slime to "prove" something.  Like your sig, for instance.  Trying
>> to portray Mark Twain as an anti-racist, when he was nothing of the sort,
>> is typical liberal lying.
> 
> Ooooh. Lost your chat account, big guy? Ever *read* any Twain? Does the
> word "satire" ring a bell? 

I'm perfectly well aware that Mark Twain was a satirical writer, but he
was by no means an anti-racist, which is what Crazy Jeannie is trying to
get us to believe.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 07:58:51 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) babbles:
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
>>
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:

(snip)

> The same goes for the riot you speak of in Ottawa three years ago.  I am 
> unfamiliar with the details about how it began. 

Then maybe you should familiarize yourself with the details, Fester,
before you go shooting your mouth off about something you're totally
ignorant about.  Then again, you liberals are notorious for doing this. 

(snip)

>>Oh, and that's never happened the other way around?  The trashing og Gary
>>Schipper's house in Toronto comes to mind... hell, they even have the
>>perps on videotape, but there were never any charges pressed by the cops. 
>>Why do you think that is?
> 
> Since I know nothing about it, I won't offer an opinion. 

Jeepers, Fester, you really ARE ignorant of a lot of things, aren't you? 
You didn't know diddly-squat about Klanwatch, you didn't know that Alicia
Reckzin said EXACTLY that it's O.K. to kill a "Natsee", you don't know a
thing about the May 29, 1993 Ottawa riot, and you don't know shit about
the trashing of Gary Schipper's home?  Tell us, Fester, what DO you know?
(I suspect that the answer will be something like "Not a damn thing, but I
have some really neat ideas that are TOTALLY DETACHED from reality!")

> What was the name of that radio guy in Colorado who was gunned down by white
> supremacists a few years ago?

Alan Berg.  Tell me how that's somehow worse than the "legal" extradition
and killing of old men, like Karl Linnas, and (almost) John Demjanjuk?

>>Yes, and your point is...?
> 
> My point is that you are as involved as your spouse.  The involvement, rather
> than "family life" may explain Macleans' concern. 

And then again, maybe the "people" at _Macclone's_ are just a bunch of
muck-racking hacks trying to convince everyone that they're real journalists.

> And there is a big thing these days about "career couples".

Don't be an ass.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 07:58:52 PST 1996
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) snivels:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) whimpers:
>>> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:

>>>>Would you hire someone with purple hair?  I sure wouldn't.
>>> 
>>> If they had what it took to do the job, I would hire someone with purple
>>> hair.  And I would hire someone with "nonwhite" skin, too.  Would you?
>>
>>Not only are you a Grade-1 asshole, Fester, you're a shameless liar too. 
>>Do you really expect ANYONE to believe your Politicaly Correct chirping
>>about hiring with merit the ONLY criteria?  How about a qualified White
>>Nationalist?
> 
> Hmmmmm, I guess you've never hired people.  In the interview process,
> you see, I would be able to observe a person's hair colour/style, the
> colour of their complexion, and so on.  However, I would not be able
> to observe their politics.  Nor would I ask about their politics, any
> more than I would ask about their religion or any other private matter.

Liar, liar, pants on fire... don't give us this shit about how you would
hire a circus-freak to work, ESPECIALLY if you owned a business that
required this person to deal with the public.  Or are you really that
naive, and/or an economic masochist?
 
> It has nothing to do with "political correctness", something which you
> assume I support (but you are wrong).  When I hire people, I am 
> interested in whether they have the training, professional and social
> skills necessary to get a job done.  Period. 

Bullshit.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) runs and hides:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) simpers:

(snip)

>>> Is this the 5'2" woman who had her nose broken when she was kicked in the
>>> face by several racists?  Our government does permit killing in self-
>>> defence.  Since I don't have the quotation, nor do I trust your "belief"
>>> about the quotation, I don't think it makes a lot of sense to discuss 
>>> what she might or might not have said (and in what context?).  
>>
>>She did indeed say exactly that, on the _Shirley_ show, back in 1994.  We
>>have the transcript, and can post the exact information for you, Fester.
>>
>>For shame.  Your teachers are certainly ashamed and embarrassed by your
>>clumsy attempts to refute us.  You're going to have to do better if you
>>want to play in the big leagues.
> 
> You call this the big leagues????? 

Nope.  But if you can't even pull your own weight here, one can only
shudder to think what you must be like in real life.

> Too bad I don't have time to watch day-time TV, otherwise I might be
> "better informed" about anti-racism.  

Oh, here we go with the "I'm an anti-racist, and I have such a tremendous
life!".  Really, Fester, your predictability is surpassed only by your
stupidity.
 
> If Ms. Recksin (sp?) did indeed say this, I must ask what the problem 
> you have with her statement is.  Do you not believe that killing another
> human being in self-defence is acceptable?  It is allowable under current
> Canadian law. 

Well, let's try it this way, shall we?  "It's perfectly acceptable to kill
a jew in self-defense."  Of course, MY definition of self-defense may not
be the same as yours.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 07:58:54 PST 1996
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn861@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Sylvie Charbonneau) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) writes:
 
(snip)
 
>>As I said to Kenny, just pick up a copy of the Ottawa Sun or Ottawa
>>Citizen from May 30th, 1993.  Take a good, hard look at the "young folks"
>>featured there.
> 
> Ms. Charbonneau, you don't seem to understand what the term "generalisation"
> means.  Maybe this is why you don't understand why most people find your
> racism so revolting.  I am not going to trek over to the library to stare
> at a microfilm picture from a 3 year old Ottawa newspaper.  
 
Geez, ignorant AND lazy.  What a winning combination!
 
Wassamatter, Fester, afraid that your ability to plead ignorance of any
given REAL situation will disappear if you actually LOOK at the real world.
  
> You are talking
> about one incident, involving one group of antiracists.  Not all, or even
> most, people who find your racism and antisemitism abhorrent look like that.
 
She never said they did, Fester.  She DID say that the ORGANIZED
anti-racists are a bunch of losers and goofs.
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 08:06:23 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The nobility of Crazy Jeannie (was: A Trip...)
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Chris Macleod (cmacleod@chat.carleton.ca) writes:
> Les Griswold (bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
> 
>> These "scholars" you harp on about are words taken out of context by you
>> liberal slime to "prove" something.  Like your sig, for instance.  Trying
>> to portray Mark Twain as an anti-racist, when he was nothing of the sort,
>> is typical liberal lying.
> 
> Ooooh. Lost your chat account, big guy? Ever *read* any Twain? Does the
> word "satire" ring a bell? 

I'm perfectly well aware that Mark Twain was a satirical writer, but he
was by no means an anti-racist, which is what Crazy Jeannie is trying to
get us to believe.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 08:06:24 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The nobility of Crazy Jeannie (was: A Trip...)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> * Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:

(snip - Crazy thinking I'm going to "run away")
 
> * Run away?  Perish the thought!  No, Crazy, I simply meant that I was not
> * going to take the ramblings of deluded, other-wordly liberal dreamers like
> * yourself seriously; instead, I'll recognize them for the desperate cries
> * for attention that they are.
> 
> Did you get besten up by girls when you were a kid, Les? Were you shoved
> in the girls' bathroom, given wedgies, and ridiculed for being a greasy
> little wimp by the females in your school? Maybe you had an older sister
> who made you model her underware when her friends came over to visit.

Now that's a "I know you are, but what am I?" response if I ever saw one.

No, I never got "besten" (hey, proof-reader!) up by any girls.

(snip)

> * > I am not worried about my personal safety.
> * 
> * Head in the sand, head in the sand...
> 
> I am very capable of protecting myself. 

Sure.  You really think that race-motivated attacks are going to be fair,
one-on-one affairs?  Or are you like most liberals, a liar who wants
EVERYONE ELSE to give up their means of self-defense, while you
steadfastly hang on to yours?

> Yer getting all tingly just thinking about it aren't you? I'll bet that
> you'd secretly like to join up with that "negro gang-bang team" to get
> back at all of those liberal, educated, well-employed bitches now who
> rejected you all through your adolescence and early adulthood, but you'll
> have to content yourself with vicarious fantasizing.

No, I don't find the thought of ANY woman being raped to be enjoyable.  I
wouldn't even consign a race-traitorous white slut to being raped. 
However, I find it ironic that rioting non-Whites will NOT sit down and
discuss politics with you, or any other liberal.  In this regard, the
negroes can be said to have something that the vast majority of whites
don't:  their ability to recognize, at a glance, who their allies are, and
who their enemies are (boy, that Reginald Denny, the truck driver who got
beaten in the L.A. riots, was just such a racist, wasn't he!)

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 08:06:25 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:

>>I underlined the part where I said that Blanchefield hauled his pathetic
>>ass to our house DURING WORKING HOURS,
> 
> Isn't the "Shirley show" on during "work hours"?  

Not anymore!  She got canned in September of '95, I do believe.

In any event, WHERE did I say that I had watched it DURING ITS ORIGINAL
BROADCAST?  There's a nifty device out there called a "video-cassette
recorder".

> Does everybody in Canada work the same hours?  

Of course not.  But Blanchefield and Fulton (from _Macclean's_) could have
saved their gas by phoning first to see if I was home, rather than haul
their butts out of their "writer's" chairs, hoping to intimidate me or my
wife by their semi-divine presence (what IS it about journalists, anyway,
that makes them think that anyone RESPECTS them, and will keel over in
their presence?)

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 08:06:26 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> * Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:

(snip)

> * By "flexible", I meant that we are willing to MODIFY our definition of
> * white as more information becomes available.  The same thing occurred with
> * our discussion of hemophilia.  Someone (Groppi, I think) pointed out that
> * my proposal to ban reproduction of hemophiliacs would have to extend to
> * their female relations in order to be effective.
> 
> Ooooohhhh! Why didn't you know this information, cockroach-boy? How are
> you guys going to rule over anything if you continue to ignore the
> scientific and historical information that your detractors can apparently
> provide at the drop of a hat? 

But we DON'T ignore real, honest-to-goodness facts, Crazy.  I already
explained that to you.  We just ignore (or belittle, as the spirit moves
us) liberal fantasizing.

> * Crazy, you really should learn to edit, so that you can make your point
> * with a minimum of clutter.
> 
> ZOG pays me by the word, cockroach-boy. You're making me a wealthy woman.

You wish. 


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 08:06:27 PST 1996
Article: 14397 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Lola Odusoga crowned Miss Finland
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Eugene Holman (holman@katk.helsinki.fi) writes:

>> Folks,
>> Finns were charmed at the weekend by 18year old Lola Odusoga,
>> daughter of a Nigerian father and Finnish mother who was crowned
>> Miss Finland 1996 on Saturday evening. Lola's irresistable piercing
>> brown eyes, beautiful brown skin and tall(174cm) structure had been
>> the talk of the country in the week preceding the final night. No one
>> it seemed, could resist Lola. She won not only the final title of
>> Miss Finland but also the Viewer's Choice as well as the Choice of
>> the Press. With her charming demeanour and massive self-confidence
>> Lola, a model and dancer is set to take the world by storm
>> 
>> The young beauty has surely boosted the morale of many
>> Black people here. Men, I could not resist looking at the girl.
>> She's a real "black beauty.

No, she's not.  She's a real mulattress "beauty".  It says so right in the
first sentence.  You're going to have to be aware that a
half-white/half-black mongrel is NOT "black", nor is she "white".

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 08:07:44 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: The nobility of Crazy Jeannie (was: A Trip...)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> * Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:

(snip - Crazy thinking I'm going to "run away")
 
> * Run away?  Perish the thought!  No, Crazy, I simply meant that I was not
> * going to take the ramblings of deluded, other-wordly liberal dreamers like
> * yourself seriously; instead, I'll recognize them for the desperate cries
> * for attention that they are.
> 
> Did you get besten up by girls when you were a kid, Les? Were you shoved
> in the girls' bathroom, given wedgies, and ridiculed for being a greasy
> little wimp by the females in your school? Maybe you had an older sister
> who made you model her underware when her friends came over to visit.

Now that's a "I know you are, but what am I?" response if I ever saw one.

No, I never got "besten" (hey, proof-reader!) up by any girls.

(snip)

> * > I am not worried about my personal safety.
> * 
> * Head in the sand, head in the sand...
> 
> I am very capable of protecting myself. 

Sure.  You really think that race-motivated attacks are going to be fair,
one-on-one affairs?  Or are you like most liberals, a liar who wants
EVERYONE ELSE to give up their means of self-defense, while you
steadfastly hang on to yours?

> Yer getting all tingly just thinking about it aren't you? I'll bet that
> you'd secretly like to join up with that "negro gang-bang team" to get
> back at all of those liberal, educated, well-employed bitches now who
> rejected you all through your adolescence and early adulthood, but you'll
> have to content yourself with vicarious fantasizing.

No, I don't find the thought of ANY woman being raped to be enjoyable.  I
wouldn't even consign a race-traitorous white slut to being raped. 
However, I find it ironic that rioting non-Whites will NOT sit down and
discuss politics with you, or any other liberal.  In this regard, the
negroes can be said to have something that the vast majority of whites
don't:  their ability to recognize, at a glance, who their allies are, and
who their enemies are (boy, that Reginald Denny, the truck driver who got
beaten in the L.A. riots, was just such a racist, wasn't he!)

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 08:07:45 PST 1996
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> * Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:

(snip)

> * By "flexible", I meant that we are willing to MODIFY our definition of
> * white as more information becomes available.  The same thing occurred with
> * our discussion of hemophilia.  Someone (Groppi, I think) pointed out that
> * my proposal to ban reproduction of hemophiliacs would have to extend to
> * their female relations in order to be effective.
> 
> Ooooohhhh! Why didn't you know this information, cockroach-boy? How are
> you guys going to rule over anything if you continue to ignore the
> scientific and historical information that your detractors can apparently
> provide at the drop of a hat? 

But we DON'T ignore real, honest-to-goodness facts, Crazy.  I already
explained that to you.  We just ignore (or belittle, as the spirit moves
us) liberal fantasizing.

> * Crazy, you really should learn to edit, so that you can make your point
> * with a minimum of clutter.
> 
> ZOG pays me by the word, cockroach-boy. You're making me a wealthy woman.

You wish. 


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Liberals want attention!
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Ever notice how liberals always, inevitably, resort to making statements
that they "think" will make us angry?  Like a three-year-old throwing a
tantrum when he doesn't get his way...

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 08:31:01 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance
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Kenny McOyVay OBC (kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca) writes:

(snip - stuff about anti-racists)

Moi: 
>>>She's not "jumping to conclusions", or "stereotyping", Fester.  She's
>>>relaying ACCURATE information about anti-racist types in Ottawa.
> 
> Horsepucky, Mr. Griswold. I personally met over 300
> anti-racists during my Ottawa visit - spoke to them, had
> coffee with them, exchanged greetings, and generally
> socialized  with them for several hours.

Well, goody for you.  Are you bucking for another medal?  Whattsa matter, the 
OBC turning green on you already?

(snip - rest of Kenny McOyVay spittle deleted)

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 18:00:49 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: "Nazis" and National Socialists
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) shows her ignorance yet again:
> bb748@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Milton Kleim) wrote:
>>Sara aka Perrrfect [sic] writes:
> 
> [edit]
> 
>>> How many people actually VOTED
>>> National Socialist, Mr. Kleim?
>>
>>I don't know the actual numbers, but the percentages were in the 85% - 95%
>>range in four referenda.
> 
> Does that include the referendum in Austria in 1938?

That one was at over 99% support.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 18:00:50 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: "Nazis" and National Socialists
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Keith Morrison (t08o@unb.ca) writes:
> Laura Finsten wrote:
> 
>> >> How many people actually VOTED
>> >> National Socialist, Mr. Kleim?
>> >
>> >I don't know the actual numbers, but the percentages were in the 85% - 95%
>> >range in four referenda.
>> 
>> Does that include the referendum in Austria in 1938?
>> 
> 
> Or the one in Poland in '39, in France, Denmark, Norway, Holland, Belgium,
> Luxembourg, Greece in '40 and Russia in '41?

Do try not to be an ass, Keith.  There was in fact a referendum in Austria
in 1938 concerning _anschluss_.  Poland, France, Denmark, Norway, Holland,
Belgium, Luxembourg, Greece and Russia were invaded.  There's a
difference, chum.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sat Feb 24 18:55:21 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: GUN CONTROL BS
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Eric Piotrowski " (piotrows@virtu.sar.usf.edu) writes:
> On 23 Feb 1996, Arne Carlsten wrote:
 
(snip)
 
>> We somehow manage to have a rate of murder _without_ guns, in fact with 
>> nothing more than hands and feet ("Personal weapons" in the Department of 
>> Justice's _Uniform Crime Report_), that's higher than the _total_ murder 
>> rate of many countries.
> 
> Umm..okay, so Americans are a violent folk. No surprise to me. Isn't the 
> NRA in small part to thank for this?
 
Prove it.
 
The U.S.A. is violent in part because the government seems hell-bent on
FORCING its dictates through, regardless of how much resentment they
cause.
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 25 10:20:09 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Considering the source...
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FreshAgain (freshagain@aol.com) writes:
> Les, do you deny that Dr. William L. Pierce, head of the National
> Alliance, was an aide to admitted Nazi George Lincoln Rockwell?

Not at all.  And neither does he.  But that was in the '60s.  NEWS FLASH,
Freshie:  this is the '90s.
 
> Other than the fact that the Alliance is in America, what makes it program
> any different from the NSDAP??

Lots of things, you ignoramus.  However, it's pointless to debate with a
jew; your only motivation is to start a screaming match.  You aren't
interested in reasoned debate.
 
> The National Alliance not Nazi?  It's the premier Nazi organization in
> America.

A "Nazi" is anything that pisses a jew off.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 25 10:20:10 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Mark Twain an anti-racist? (was: The nobility of Crazy Jeannie)
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 (crward@netins.net) writes:

(snip)

Moi:
>>I'm perfectly well aware that Mark Twain was a satirical writer, but he
>>was by no means an anti-racist, which is what Crazy Jeannie is trying to
>>get us to believe.
> 
> Les
> 
> Goto http://web.syr.edu/~fjzwick/twainwww.html and try to find 
> someone that will support position. 

Support WHICH position?  That Twain was a rabid anti-racist?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 25 10:20:11 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Lola Odusoga crowned Miss Finland
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
> 
>>  You're going to have to be aware that a
>> half-white/half-black mongrel is NOT "black", nor is she "white".
> 
> But she's definitely pretty!

Hoo, boy, another fan of mongrel beauty...

Tell me, Caesar, does Lola Odusoga portray typical negress traits, such as:

-nappy, wooly hair

-everted lips

-a backwards-sloping head

-almost comically large buttocks

If not, then how can you, or anyone, say that she's a typical, or even
atypical, negress?  If she looks like a White woman with dark skin, that
hardly makes her an example of "black beauty".

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 25 10:38:03 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: why?
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NaturalBornKilla (lblake1@gl.umbc.edu) writes:
> when the irish and germans were immigrating to america in the early 19th 
> cen.,everybody had problems with it citing the *fact* that there wasn't 
> enough room for them. when the freed slaves began the mass exodus from 
> the southern american states in the mid to late 19th century, people had  
> problem with that, saying there weren't enough jobs for them. when asians
> and southeren europeans began coming into america in the late 19th century,
> everyone had problems with that saying they couldn't be assimilated. 

This is the 20th century, bucko, not the 19th.  Besides, comparing the
immigration of the Irish and the Germans (in the 19th century) to the influx 
of non-Whites today is misleading.

> now we(americans) have problems with the indians and africans immigrating 
> into our country. yet we have the gall to call our selves a melting pot 

You can call yourselves tooth-fairies if you want; the fact remains,
though, that there are ASSIMILABLE minorities (Germans and Irish being
two), and UNASSIMILABLE minorities (Indians, of any type, and Africans
being two).

> and say that this is the land of opportunity when we set quotas on how 
> many people can enter this country based on their country of origin. the 
> *aryan* peoples of britain, ireland, sweden, norway, etc. have no limits 
> on how many can enter. the africans, indians, asians, ans southern 
> europeans have quotas. 

Bullshit and you know it.  White immigration, to the United States and to
Canada, is STRICTLY controlled.

In any event, africans, indians, and orientals immigrate ILLEGALLY, so the
quotas are a moot point.
 
> 	america is a HUGE country (not as big as canada, i might add). 
> there is PLENTY of space to live in that is not even being used right 
> now. if people would only opentheir eyes, they would realize that we 
> don't have an immigration problem, 

Do so.

> there are ots of low-paying jobs to 
> get the immigrants started so they can have a better life than they left.
> and what about haitians?!!! don't even get me started about that...

Why not?  Afraid to face facts, likely.

Les



--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 25 10:38:04 PST 1996
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> Racial Theorist wrote:
>> 
>> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>> 
>> >Ever notice how liberals always, inevitably, resort to making statements
>> >that they "think" will make us angry?  Like a three-year-old throwing a
>> >tantrum when he doesn't get his way...
>> 
>> yeah, especially when they talk about race mixing.  fact is, i like to
>> hear beaver's tales.  my favorite part is the part about how he's
>> gonna marry that black girl so he can piss his parents off.
>> 
>> rc richards, racial theorist
> 
> You still haven't shown me where I ever said I was pissing anyone's parents 
> off... They are looking forward to coming over to the states in December for 
> the wedding.

Yeah, they're looking forward to COMING OVER.  Nowhere do you say that
they're looking forward to marrying you off to a negress.

> Your parents might not be proud of you, but mine are of me so you can drop
> these pathetic attempts at trying to aggravate me.

"Pathetic"?  I'd say they're working just fine.  Three things in life are
certain:  death, taxes, and liberal squawking when their motivations are
revealed.  You, evil Beavis, are the very archetype of a liberal.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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David Byrden (100101.2547@compuserve.com) writes:
>>> Others have polluted the earth as well.
> 
> 
> Check out the relative _amounts_

I shudder to think of the "noble savages" with Iron Age technology, not to
mention other non-White peoples.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 25 10:38:05 PST 1996
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FreshAgain (freshagain@aol.com) writes:
> Les, do you deny that Dr. William L. Pierce, head of the National
> Alliance, was an aide to admitted Nazi George Lincoln Rockwell?

Not at all.  And neither does he.  But that was in the '60s.  NEWS FLASH,
Freshie:  this is the '90s.
 
> Other than the fact that the Alliance is in America, what makes it program
> any different from the NSDAP??

Lots of things, you ignoramus.  However, it's pointless to debate with a
jew; your only motivation is to start a screaming match.  You aren't
interested in reasoned debate.
 
> The National Alliance not Nazi?  It's the premier Nazi organization in
> America.

A "Nazi" is anything that pisses a jew off.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 25 11:43:50 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: GUN CONTROL BS
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Eric Piotrowski " (piotrows@virtu.sar.usf.edu) writes:
> On 23 Feb 1996, Arne Carlsten wrote:
 
(snip)
 
>> We somehow manage to have a rate of murder _without_ guns, in fact with 
>> nothing more than hands and feet ("Personal weapons" in the Department of 
>> Justice's _Uniform Crime Report_), that's higher than the _total_ murder 
>> rate of many countries.
> 
> Umm..okay, so Americans are a violent folk. No surprise to me. Isn't the 
> NRA in small part to thank for this?
 
Prove it.
 
The U.S.A. is violent in part because the government seems hell-bent on
FORCING its dictates through, regardless of how much resentment they
cause.
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 25 12:09:38 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: GUN CONTROL BS
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"Eric Piotrowski " (piotrows@virtu.sar.usf.edu) writes:
> On 23 Feb 1996, Arne Carlsten wrote:

(snip)

>> We somehow manage to have a rate of murder _without_ guns, in fact with 
>> nothing more than hands and feet ("Personal weapons" in the Department of 
>> Justice's _Uniform Crime Report_), that's higher than the _total_ murder 
>> rate of many countries.
> 
> Umm..okay, so Americans are a violent folk. No surprise to me. Isn't the 
> NRA in small part to thank for this?

Prove it.

The U.S.A. is violent in part because the government seems hell-bent on
FORCING its dictates through, regardless of how much resentment they
cause.

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 25 12:09:39 PST 1996
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Eric Piotrowski " (piotrows@virtu.sar.usf.edu) writes:
> On 23 Feb 1996, Arne Carlsten wrote:
 
(snip)
 
>> We somehow manage to have a rate of murder _without_ guns, in fact with 
>> nothing more than hands and feet ("Personal weapons" in the Department of 
>> Justice's _Uniform Crime Report_), that's higher than the _total_ murder 
>> rate of many countries.
> 
> Umm..okay, so Americans are a violent folk. No surprise to me. Isn't the 
> NRA in small part to thank for this?
 
Prove it.
 
The U.S.A. is violent in part because the government seems hell-bent on
FORCING its dictates through, regardless of how much resentment they
cause.
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 25 14:15:06 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Lola Odusoga crowned Miss Finland
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Eugene Holman (holman@katk.helsinki.fi) writes:

>> Folks,
>> Finns were charmed at the weekend by 18year old Lola Odusoga,
>> daughter of a Nigerian father and Finnish mother who was crowned
>> Miss Finland 1996 on Saturday evening. Lola's irresistable piercing
>> brown eyes, beautiful brown skin and tall(174cm) structure had been
>> the talk of the country in the week preceding the final night. No one
>> it seemed, could resist Lola. She won not only the final title of
>> Miss Finland but also the Viewer's Choice as well as the Choice of
>> the Press. With her charming demeanour and massive self-confidence
>> Lola, a model and dancer is set to take the world by storm
>> 
>> The young beauty has surely boosted the morale of many
>> Black people here. Men, I could not resist looking at the girl.
>> She's a real "black beauty.

No, she's not.  She's a real mulattress "beauty".  It says so right in the
first sentence.  You're going to have to be aware that a
half-white/half-black mongrel is NOT "black", nor is she "white".

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 25 14:15:08 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Lola Odusoga crowned Miss Finland
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Caesar (Caesar@augur.demon.co.uk) writes:
> In article 
>            bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA "Les Griswold" writes:
> 
>>  You're going to have to be aware that a
>> half-white/half-black mongrel is NOT "black", nor is she "white".
> 
> But she's definitely pretty!

Hoo, boy, another fan of mongrel beauty...

Tell me, Caesar, does Lola Odusoga portray typical negress traits, such as:

-nappy, wooly hair

-everted lips

-a backwards-sloping head

-almost comically large buttocks

If not, then how can you, or anyone, say that she's a typical, or even
atypical, negress?  If she looks like a White woman with dark skin, that
hardly makes her an example of "black beauty".

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Sun Feb 25 15:43:23 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: HORRIFIC SPORTING GOODS STORE ROBBERY IN TORONTO
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Neil (neilends@U.Arizona.EDU) writes:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Ilias Kotsovolos wrote:
> 
>> Neil wrote:
>> > On 24 Feb 1996, GREGS wrote:
>> > > FIVE or SIX  BLACK MALES [snip]
>> > 
>> > Your motives are obvious.
>> 
>> And what would those be, for us the less gifted ones?
> 
> Since his pointing out their racial background is not in any way going to
> help the investiation of this crime, his motive is to scapegoat blacks,
> Jamaicans in particular.

His pointing out of the racial backgrounds of the perpetrators will indeed
help the investigation of this crime.  The police, if they weren't so
hampered by the fear of "snivel rights" violations, would restrict their
investigations to Jamaicans.  That would save a lot of time and manpower,
ensuring a better chance of apprehension.

Since when does giving a complete description of a perpetrator, INCLUDING
racial, not equal a better chance of apprehension?

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 26 10:40:57 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Milton Kleim, other Neo-Nazis: Anti-Censorship Activists?
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R.C. Richards (xyz@scsn.net) writes:
> adam3t@aol.com (Adam 3T) wrote:
> 
>>Rich Graves claims that I suggested that the Mossad should or could or
>>would assassinate someone like Lew Griswold is not supported in any way by any
>>of my posts.  I never mentioned violent acts against nazis even once.  All I
>>said was that the ADL shares its information on nazis with the Mossad, and I
>>also said that the Mossad would be more than happy to treat nazis with all the
>>respect they deserve.  If you want to read violence into all that, fine, but
>>it's your interpretation. 
> 
> no, it's not anybody's interpretation:  it's exactly what you're
> saying.  you're making threats.

... and now that he's facing heat for what he's been saying, he has to
back off.

*sigh*

So much for the tough, gun-totin' jew.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 26 11:05:17 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The nobility of Crazy Jeannie (was: A Trip...)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> * Fragano Ledgister (fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu) writes:

(snip)

> * > Would you mind, then, explaining:
> * > 
> * > (1) Twain's attitude towards King Leopold's agents in the Congo;
> * 
> * Finding exploitation objectionable does not make one a nigger-lover.
> * 
> * > (2) Twain's attitude towards the war in the Philippines;
> * 
> * Finding bloodshed objectionable does not make one a champion of
> * "multiculturalism".
> * 
> * > (3) Twain's treatment of black people in his travel writing (for
> * > example his praise of black people in _The Innocents Abroad_.
> * 
> * Admiration of negroes is not the same thing as wanting to live with them.
> * 
> * This is so typical of the either/or mindset of liberals, whose tiny,
> * rat-like brains can only encompass TWO alternatives:  EITHER Twain was a
> * racist, OR he was not.
> 
> Les, *you* were the one who claimed that I used Twain's quote because I
> was trying to prove that he was an anti-racist. Next you're going to be
> accusing "liberals" of trying to fashion Twain into a birkenstok/tiedye
> wearin' Deadhead. Sheesh! The man lived 100 years ago and liked to write
> things that ruffled people's feathers. Try not to put too much more
> meaning into it, and stop trying to assume that you have a clue about how
> my mind works.

You've got me there.  I always thought, based on the intellect of your
posts, that there was a little gerbil running on an exercise wheel in your
head.  Are you telling me otherwise?

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> * Fragano Ledgister (fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu) writes:

(snip)

> * > Would you mind, then, explaining:
> * > 
> * > (1) Twain's attitude towards King Leopold's agents in the Congo;
> * 
> * Finding exploitation objectionable does not make one a nigger-lover.
> * 
> * > (2) Twain's attitude towards the war in the Philippines;
> * 
> * Finding bloodshed objectionable does not make one a champion of
> * "multiculturalism".
> * 
> * > (3) Twain's treatment of black people in his travel writing (for
> * > example his praise of black people in _The Innocents Abroad_.
> * 
> * Admiration of negroes is not the same thing as wanting to live with them.
> * 
> * This is so typical of the either/or mindset of liberals, whose tiny,
> * rat-like brains can only encompass TWO alternatives:  EITHER Twain was a
> * racist, OR he was not.
> 
> Les, *you* were the one who claimed that I used Twain's quote because I
> was trying to prove that he was an anti-racist. Next you're going to be
> accusing "liberals" of trying to fashion Twain into a birkenstok/tiedye
> wearin' Deadhead. Sheesh! The man lived 100 years ago and liked to write
> things that ruffled people's feathers. Try not to put too much more
> meaning into it, and stop trying to assume that you have a clue about how
> my mind works.

You've got me there.  I always thought, based on the intellect of your
posts, that there was a little gerbil running on an exercise wheel in your
head.  Are you telling me otherwise?

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 26 13:42:57 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: HORRIFIC SPORTING GOODS STORE ROBBERY IN TORONTO
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David Reilley (dreilley@pinc.com) writes:
> In article  bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) writes:

(snip)

>>"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
>>squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
>>organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
>>Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews
> 
> We know it wouldn't be long before the members of the Nazi Party jumped into 
> this little feeding frenzy.

And I knew that it wouldn't be long before members of the Communist Party
jumped on me for my sig, thinking it more objectionable than an
assault/robbery.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Mon Feb 26 15:16:07 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: JC's new home (was: HORRIFIC SPORTING GOODS STORE ROBBERY IN TORONTO) 
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Neil (neilends@U.Arizona.EDU) writes:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 1996, jc wrote:
> 
>> Well said. I would add that I would have never allowed the blacks to 
>> immigrate to Canada in the first place! There would certainly be a lot 
>> fewer victims of murder and violent assault!
> 
> If there was a vote, and the good people of Canada were asked, "Which of
> the two would you like to ban from ever entering your country: (a) the guy
> who goes by "jc" on can.politics, or (b) all black people?" I guarantee
> that "jc" would have to find a new home.

You sound pretty convinced of yourself, Neil.  Almost TOO convinced,
as if you desperately NEED to believe that "the good people of Canada" agree 
with your namby-pamby "I share MLK's dream" garbage.

It shows an unfounded belief in counting noses as the way to resolve moral
issues.  That's kind of like arguing that 68% of people believe that
pedophiles should be Scout masters, so obviously it's correct.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb 27 07:45:32 PST 1996
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) pleads ignorance yet again:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) drools:
 
(snip)
 
>>> Ms. Charbonneau, you don't seem to understand what the term "generalisation"
>>> means.  Maybe this is why you don't understand why most people find your
>>> racism so revolting.  I am not going to trek over to the library to stare
>>> at a microfilm picture from a 3 year old Ottawa newspaper.  
>> 
>>Geez, ignorant AND lazy.  What a winning combination!
>> 
>>Wassamatter, Fester, afraid that your ability to plead ignorance of any
>>given REAL situation will disappear if you actually LOOK at the real world.
> 
> You really are incredibly thick, Herr Untergrumpenclumsilengraspenstrawsen.
> I don't doubt that the photograph depicted in the Ottawa paper with 
> reference to that incident portrays some rather imaginately coiffed and
> dressed young folks.  I've seen images on a video (CTV's "Hearts of Hate")
> and pictures in a book (Kinsella's "Web of Hate").  But you see, those are
> not the only anti-racists in the whole world, not even your tiny world of
> Ottawa, although they may be the only anti-racists in your tiny minds.  Mr.
> McVay has met with hundreds of anti-racists, and many of us know lots of
> people who are anti-racist. 

Gee, it's pretty funny how it's always the SAME anti-racists who are
grabbing the limelight.

> My mother, for example, is stridently opposed to racism, and I can assure you
> that she does not have purple hair or a pierced nose.

And I'm sure your mother gets out to the "Smash the Klan!" rallies
regularly, does she? 

>>> You are talking
>>> about one incident, involving one group of antiracists.  Not all, or even
>>> most, people who find your racism and antisemitism abhorrent look like that.
>> 
>>She never said they did, Fester.  She DID say that the ORGANIZED
>>anti-racists are a bunch of losers and goofs.
> 
> Oh did she now?  That is not my recollection, but I'll check.  But even if
> it were what Ms. Charbonneau said, so what? 

Your "recollection" isn't worth shit.  All you'll do is plead ignorance,
YET AGAIN.  As for the "so what":  the point being that she said one
thing, and you, like a typical liberal, didn't address what she DID say,
but what you WISHED she had said.

> What do the actions of a few folks have to do with the greater group that 
> she/you/whoever is associating them with?

Indeed.  Please remember that when you see a moss-mouthed Klansman on
Geraldo or Jerry Springer, would you?

> And just who are the "organised anti-racists", Herr Untersnivvellensleazen?
> Care to post a list of the organisations that qualify as "losers and goofs"?
> You mean like that skin group that is anti-racist?

That would be SHARPs.  Yes, I would classify them as losers and goofs. 
Then there is Anti-Racist Action, better known as ARA.  Also losers and
goofs.  The point is, Fester, organized anti-racists seem to attract
losers and goofs like a light draws moths.

Les 


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb 27 07:45:33 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance
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Gord McFee (gmcfee@ibm.net) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les
> Griswold) said:

Fester:
>>> If they had what it took to do the job, I would hire someone with purple
>>> hair.  And I would hire someone with "nonwhite" skin, too.  Would you?
> 
>>Not only are you a Grade-1 asshole, Fester, you're a shameless liar too.
>>Do you really expect ANYONE to believe your Politicaly Correct chirping
>>about hiring with merit the ONLY criteria?  How about a qualified White
>>Nationalist?
> 
> Somebody hired *you*, asshole.

We're not talking about a hypothetical "somebody", asshole.  I addressed a
very specific question to FESTER, not you.  How like you liberals to
switch-hit for one another, to pick up the slack when you see a fellow lib
floundering like a mackeral out of water.  But, hey, Fester needs all the
help she can get!

Les
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
                                                     


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb 27 07:45:34 PST 1996
Article: 25257 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Here we go 'gain (was: Louis Beam, Censorship and the National Alliance)
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Keith Morrison (T08O@UNB.CA) writes:
> In article <4gsq4e$69e@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> Laura Finsten  writes:
>>
>>What is the relationship between earwax and
>>behaviour, anyway?  Apart from the likelihood that Unterfartenschleppen-
>>schwizzelenwienenfuehrer Griswold's ears are so full of it that he is
>>suffering from terminal pseudosilification of the brain?
> 
> Before your time.  Unterbiologicundgeneticfuehrer Les cited a book
> that "proved" whites were superior to blacks, so I went and looked.
> Besides being out of date, the book said that whites have different
> earwax than blacks (and the same as asians), blacks and whites had
> body odour while asians don't and there were some differences in the
> average urine content.
> 
> When people asked Earwaxenfuehrer Les about how, exactly, earwax
> determined superiority he was somewhat quiet. 

Uh, maybe, Keith, that's because I NEVER SAID that earwax determined
superiority.  I merely stated that it was ONE indicator of race, but that
got lost in the name-calling and vituperation of you liberal swine.

> Perhaps a buildup of Aryan earwax obstructed his hearing.

And perhaps a buildup of pus in what passes in you for a brain is causing
you to "recall" that I said earwax = superiority.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb 27 09:12:45 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Looking like an ape.
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Steve Garza (sgarza@csubak.edu) writes:
> I have heard people mention that blacks look more like apes than whites
> look like apes. So I decided to pay attention and look closely at apes.
> 
> Ape noses and most African people's noses are broad and flat. Their hands
> and faces are dark colored and their hair is black. Sounds like white
> people win?
> 
> But have you ever seen a thick lipped ape? Ape and monkey lips are thin.
> Their ears are large and rounded and their hair is straight. Hum. So much
> for superficial resemblances!

Good of you to put the word "superficial" in there, greaser.

I love liberal ignorance, really.  It forces you shits to repeat YOUR
misconceptions about us, thereby revealing your ignorance, and your
inability (or unwillingness) to assimilate anything new.  The same cannot
be said about racists.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb 27 09:12:47 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The nobility of Crazy Jeannie (was: A Trip...)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> * Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:

(snip)

> * > Les, *you* were the one who claimed that I used Twain's quote because I
> * > was trying to prove that he was an anti-racist. Next you're going to be
> * > accusing "liberals" of trying to fashion Twain into a birkenstok/tiedye
> * > wearin' Deadhead. Sheesh! The man lived 100 years ago and liked to write
> * > things that ruffled people's feathers. Try not to put too much more
> * > meaning into it, and stop trying to assume that you have a clue about how
> * > my mind works.
> * 
> * You've got me there.  I always thought, based on the intellect of your
> * posts, that there was a little gerbil running on an exercise wheel in your
> * head.  Are you telling me otherwise?
> 
> I save my intellect for other pursuits. I'm here to make certain that you
> keep writing stupid stuff to keep all of my lib'rul friends entertained.
> Even though you are a homocidal lunatic wannabe, you can be damned funny
> sometimes.

Thanks, Crazy!  I'd return the compliment, but the fact is, your posts
aren't funny, they're pathetic cries for attention.

Les



--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb 27 10:11:36 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Evil Beavis' folks (was: Liberals want attention!)
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>> 
>> evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:

(snip)

>> > You still haven't shown me where I ever said I was pissing anyone's parents
>> > off... They are looking forward to coming over to the states in December for
>> > the wedding.
>> 
>> Yeah, they're looking forward to COMING OVER.  Nowhere do you say that
>> they're looking forward to marrying you off to a negress.
> 
> They do travel quite a bit and think the U.S. is a nice place to visit. And 
> yeas, they are very happy I am getting married as I have chosen a very 
> beautiful, bright and educated woman. Better than your right hand Sylvie!

So your parents are just as deracinated as you are.  That's nothing to be
proud of, Beaver.

Les
--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb 27 10:11:37 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Fester, in particular, wants attention (was: Liberals want attention!) 
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Laura Finsten (finsten@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca) whines:
> bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) wrote:
>>Ever notice how liberals always, inevitably, resort to making statements
>>that they "think" will make us angry?  Like a three-year-old throwing a
>>tantrum when he doesn't get his way...
> 
> Gosh Herr Unterobereitzengruppengropenweinenfuehrer, I didn't know you
> considered yourself a "liberal".  You were referring, weren't you, to
> brilliant writings like "Liar liar, pants on fire", weren't you?

Oh, take a pill, Fester.  The fact is, to make oneself understood to
children (uh, that's you sorts), one sometimes has to use small words and
nursery rhymes.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb 27 10:11:38 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Looking like an ape.
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Steve Garza (sgarza@csubak.edu) writes:
> I have heard people mention that blacks look more like apes than whites
> look like apes. So I decided to pay attention and look closely at apes.
> 
> Ape noses and most African people's noses are broad and flat. Their hands
> and faces are dark colored and their hair is black. Sounds like white
> people win?
> 
> But have you ever seen a thick lipped ape? Ape and monkey lips are thin.
> Their ears are large and rounded and their hair is straight. Hum. So much
> for superficial resemblances!

Good of you to put the word "superficial" in there, greaser.

I love liberal ignorance, really.  It forces you shits to repeat YOUR
misconceptions about us, thereby revealing your ignorance, and your
inability (or unwillingness) to assimilate anything new.  The same cannot
be said about racists.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb 27 10:11:39 PST 1996
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: The nobility of Crazy Jeannie (was: A Trip...)
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:
> 
> * Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:

(snip)

> * > Les, *you* were the one who claimed that I used Twain's quote because I
> * > was trying to prove that he was an anti-racist. Next you're going to be
> * > accusing "liberals" of trying to fashion Twain into a birkenstok/tiedye
> * > wearin' Deadhead. Sheesh! The man lived 100 years ago and liked to write
> * > things that ruffled people's feathers. Try not to put too much more
> * > meaning into it, and stop trying to assume that you have a clue about how
> * > my mind works.
> * 
> * You've got me there.  I always thought, based on the intellect of your
> * posts, that there was a little gerbil running on an exercise wheel in your
> * head.  Are you telling me otherwise?
> 
> I save my intellect for other pursuits. I'm here to make certain that you
> keep writing stupid stuff to keep all of my lib'rul friends entertained.
> Even though you are a homocidal lunatic wannabe, you can be damned funny
> sometimes.

Thanks, Crazy!  I'd return the compliment, but the fact is, your posts
aren't funny, they're pathetic cries for attention.

Les



--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb 27 10:11:39 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: WHITE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE SEVERELY DAMAGED THE PLANET, TIME TO LEAVE!
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evil "Foot-boy" Beavis (stefan@scott.net) writes:
> Les Griswold wrote:
>> 
>> David Byrden (100101.2547@compuserve.com) writes:
>> >
>> > Check out the relative _amounts_ (ie, of pollution caused by Whites
>> > and non-Whites). 

>> I shudder to think of the "noble savages" with Iron Age technology, not to
>> mention other non-White peoples.
 
> Well, the U.S. is the larges consumer of energy and the largest producer of 
> pollution in the world - and the country is still mainly populated by whites.

But the Turd World is striving mightily to catch up.  It is only WHITES
who feel any responsibilty to repair the damage they have caused.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Tue Feb 27 11:23:53 PST 1996
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David Reilley (dreilley@pinc.com) writes:
> In article  bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) writes:

(snip)

>>"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
>>squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
>>organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
>>Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews
> 
> We know it wouldn't be long before the members of the Nazi Party jumped into 
> this little feeding frenzy.

And I knew that it wouldn't be long before members of the Communist Party
jumped on me for my sig, thinking it more objectionable than an
assault/robbery.

Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Wed Feb 28 16:18:16 PST 1996
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Subject: Re: Louis Beam, Censorship, and the National Alliance
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Crazy Jeannie Kowalewski (jeannek@darkwing.uoregon.edu) writes:
> In article , bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
> (Les Griswold) wrote:

(snip - Gord McFee rushing to Fester's rescue about employing wierdos)

McFly:
> * > Somebody hired *you*, asshole.
> * 
> * We're not talking about a hypothetical "somebody", asshole.  I addressed a
> * very specific question to FESTER, not you.  How like you liberals to
> * switch-hit for one another, to pick up the slack when you see a fellow lib
> * floundering like a mackeral out of water.  But, hey, Fester needs all the
> * help she can get!
> 
> The expression you're looking for is "pinch-hit", I believe. A
> switch-hitter can bat left or right-handed. You *were* referring to
> baseball terminology, weren't you?

I defer to Crazy Jeannie's superior knowledge about baseball.  She
obviously doesn't know the first thing about race, so I guess she must
know about SOMETHING.  Looks like we've finally determined what it is.
 
> Just last week you and Dipshit Divenz (sp?) were demonstating how you
> finish each other's sentences and practically chew each other's food. It
> was rather touching to see you guys bonding and offering support to each
> other, because we're just used to seeing you trot out "Sylvie" to clean up
> your messes. BTW, Les -- does Sylvie know that you've turned into a
> switch-hitter?

My marriage is just fine, thanks for asking.

Les

--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Feb 29 06:36:50 PST 1996
Article: 25500 of alt.revisionism
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Here we go 'gain (was: Louis Beam, Censorship and the National Alliance)
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MORRISON  KEITH MURRAY (t08o@unb.ca) writes:
> In article  bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) writes:

(snip)
 
>>Uh, maybe, Keith, that's because I NEVER SAID that earwax determined
>>superiority.  I merely stated that it was ONE indicator of race, but that
>>got lost in the name-calling and vituperation of you liberal swine.
> 
> No no no no, you cited that book, with three others, as "proof" of white 
> racial superiority.  I couldn't find one of them, one was a blatant racist 
> tract written in the early 60s and two were anthropology texts that were out 
> of date, giving information that is not now accepted as true by scientists.

Ah.  "True" scientists, obviously, means "scientists who support the
multiracialism dogma".
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews


From bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA Thu Feb 29 07:01:50 PST 1996
Article: 20405 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold)
Subject: Re: Here we go 'gain (was: Louis Beam, Censorship and the National Alliance)
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MORRISON  KEITH MURRAY (t08o@unb.ca) writes:
> In article  bn946@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Les Griswold) writes:

(snip)
 
>>Uh, maybe, Keith, that's because I NEVER SAID that earwax determined
>>superiority.  I merely stated that it was ONE indicator of race, but that
>>got lost in the name-calling and vituperation of you liberal swine.
> 
> No no no no, you cited that book, with three others, as "proof" of white 
> racial superiority.  I couldn't find one of them, one was a blatant racist 
> tract written in the early 60s and two were anthropology texts that were out 
> of date, giving information that is not now accepted as true by scientists.

Ah.  "True" scientists, obviously, means "scientists who support the
multiracialism dogma".
 
Les


--
"The fate of every last White man, woman, and child on this planet lies
squarely on the shoulders of us here today.  Out of all the racialist
organizations in the Nation, the [National] Alliance, and only the
Alliance, has the potential to bring us to victory!" -- Bob Mathews



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