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Email sent from Matt Giwer to an unknown list of recipients.

Ironically, this email was sent the morning of the very same day that
his account was revoked for mailbombing (see
-- his assertion "I do not promote mail bombing" is pure hypocrisy).

Giwer has a very warped idea of what constitutes an "attack post" (see )
and he appears to agree that any person posting to alt.revisionism who
is Jewish is by definition a spammer and flamer (see ).

Thus, when he says "all abuses will be met with the same response," an
"aggressive response," it is quite likely that he is soliciting
volunteers to heap yet more net-abuse on unsuspecting, innocent
participants on Usenet.  It would appear that Netcom was not a moment
too soon in cutting off his access.

- Jamie McCarthy, September 10, 1996

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From: Matt Giwer 

        I realize that no one here is interested in abusing the net.

        However, holohuggers are ioterested in abusing the net with
mailbombing, mail forgery and the like.  

        I propose that we work together.

        For any reported mailbombing or forgery or any other reported abuse
of the net I propose we all respond as a group to any and all of these
abuses of the internet.  

        I propose tha all abuses be met with the same response.

        Staying back and playing victims is playing Jewish.

        I propose an aggressive response.  We are going to to be hung as
sheep or as lambs.  If we do not hang together we will hang separately.

        I will swear that I will complain to any ISP who part of any mail
bombing or any harrassment in additino to any mailbomber.  I will swear that
I will attack anyone who abuses the internet against revisionism.  

        I see no reason for anyone taking responsibility for this.  It is
simply responding in kind.  If there is a need to take responsibility, I
will do so as the author of this post.  I do not care.  

        I am promted to post this as CODOH reports a mailbombing after the
many mailbombings I have received from  

        This can be the greatest internet battle ever and bring media
attention to other side (our side) of the debate.  

        I do not promote mail bombing, rather I promote protest until they

        For example I have complained to more times than you might
imagine but does not give a damn about the harrassment.  They are
part of it.

        Many sites, such as CODOH, have been bombed by holohugging
terrorists as a matter of course for them.

        Let me be clear.  Anyone who can do this sort of thing has the
approval of their ISP if they are not terminated after the second complaint.
That means that is an harrassng orgainzation.

        If anyone disagrees, please post.

        Anyone who agrees, let us post to host of these abusers of the net.

     Live fast, love well, and have a glorious Website.

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