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From budwrite@niven.imsweb.net Mon May 27 17:49:00 PDT 1996
Article: 39699 of alt.revisionism
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From: Bud 
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Wes Kreider wrote:
> 
> Why is it that if you question the Holocaust you get branded a Nazi?

I know what you mean, Wes.  Although not branded a Nazi, I have met with 
some caustic treatment for even expressing some interest in 
"investigating" the subject.  I admit that prior to certain experiences, 
I generally just accepted the holocaust as some sort of "fact" but I was 
eventually motivated to investigate it more closely by some sources I 
consider quite reliable and most certainly not "anti-semitic."  I have 
become increasingly suspicious by the reactions (and even threatening 
tones) of some of the exterminationists; and, I must admit that this 
"push" for legal sanctions against opposing views is very very 
suspicious.  Still, this does not mean the exterminionists are entirely 
wrong.  One can't simply discount the testimony of hundreds of people and 
call them all liars, can they?!  I suspect that as is the case with most 
such historical matters, the truth is somewhere in betweenst all this 
name-calling.  "More heat than light" as the expression goes.  Too, I 
find it sometimes offensive that there are some who seem to think that 
this period in history represents the only worthwhile commentary or 
"play" when there are myriad examples of human suffering being heaped on 
may different nations and religions of people, not just the "Jews."  As I 
said, the truth is, I think, somewhere betweenst; but I just wish that 
everyone on these newsgroups would pray for less suffering for all of the 
human race, and not engage in some of the negative rhetoric .  No, Wes, 
not everyone who questions this period and its accuracy is a Nazi, but 
there are some evidently highly prejudiced people on both sides, as is 
starkly manifested by some of the postings on this group.


From budwrite@niven.imsweb.net Mon May 27 20:47:08 PDT 1996
Article: 39706 of alt.revisionism
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 16:26:32 -0700
From: Bud 
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tom moran wrote:
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> tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:
> 
>         When someone charges you with being a neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic or
> racist without substantial support, they are merely trying to silence
> you, scare you into saying nothing, intimidate you, challenging your
> right to speak.
true, Tom.  Foolish methodology, much like the type the Nazis themselves 
used to silence their opponents.  Foolish...


From budwrite@niven.imsweb.net Mon May 27 20:47:09 PDT 1996
Article: 39707 of alt.revisionism
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 16:25:24 -0700
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tom moran wrote:
> 
> tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) wrote:
> 
>         When someone charges you with being a neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic or
> racist without substantial support, they are merely trying to silence
> you, scare you into saying nothing, intimidate you, challenging your
> right to speak.
isn't this so true, Tom?  The odd thing is this is actually similar to 
the tactics the Nazis themselves used to oppress contrary opinion.  Very 
foolish methodology.



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