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You IDIOT, I own hatewatch.com and hatewatch.net.

hahaha


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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article , "Hate Watch"
>  wrote:
>
> >Are you a Homosexual?
> >
> >
> >--
> >Hate Watch of America
> >http://www.hatewatch.com
>
> Forgery/spam forwarded to jme@SEARK.NET, abuse@bcandid.com,
> abuse@innocent.com, abuse@Mail.com, spamcomplaints@cw.net
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




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Once again dumbass,  own it!


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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article <%cIl4.10674$ox5.3221028@tw11.nn.bcandid.com>, "Hate Watch"
>  wrote:
>
> >Are you talking to me?
> >
> >
> >--
> >Don Ellis
> >
> >
> >
> >"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
> >news:7pGl4.155$r85.16573@news.uswest.net...
> >>
> >> Don Ellis, pretending to be, "Mike Kalvatis" 
wrote
> >in
> >> message news:jjbe9s4vlqdq1kir3fp0chv0n48ijc534j@4ax.com...
> >> > I am not Don, just ask Jeffrey G. Brown,
> >> >
> >>
> >> Ask him what, Don?
> >>
> >> > now prove you accusation.
> >> >
> >>
> >> [trying to answer in Don's Bizarro gibberish] Prove me accusation?
Which
> >of
> >> me accusation am you be asking me to am prove?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> Forgery forwarded to jme@SEARK.NET, abuse@bcandid.com, abuse@innocent.com,
> abuse@Mail.com, spamcomplaints@cw.net
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:41 EST 2000
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Hey Stupid...I own it.

hahaha


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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article , "Hate Watch"
>  wrote:
>
> >I thought Jeffery brown was the homosexual side of Orac.
> >
> >
> >--
> >The American Guardian
> >http://www.thundernet.org
> >
> >
> >"Mike Kalvatis"  wrote in message
> >news:jjbe9s4vlqdq1kir3fp0chv0n48ijc534j@4ax.com...
> >> I am not Don, just ask Jeffrey G. Brown,
> >>
> >> now prove you accusation.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
>
> Forgery forwarded to jme@SEARK.NET, abuse@bcandid.com, abuse@innocent.com,
> abuse@Mail.com, spamcomplaints@cw.net
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




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I thought there was more than two?


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"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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> What's the difference?  Both of your personalities, such as they are, are
> phonies, Don.
>
>
> "Hate Watch"  wrote in message
> news:SaIl4.10670$ox5.3222309@tw11.nn.bcandid.com...
> > You talking to me or Mike?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Don Ellis
> >
> >
> >
> > "Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
> > news:TWEl4.105$r85.12730@news.uswest.net...
> > > If you can't read "Thou shalt not bear false witness", Don, I'm not
> going
> > to
> > > be able to help you.
> > >
> > >
> > > Don Ellis, pretending to be "Mike Kalvatis" 
wrote
> in
> > > message news:jb5e9sshkqusno7gcrvop4adr3hsh3jtls@4ax.com...
> > > > prove it.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:59:44 -0600, "Joel Rosenberg"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Don Ellis, forging a message as "Ken McVay" 
> wrote
> > > in
> > > > >message news:200002010610.WAA08785@cyberpass.net...
> > > > >> To Ellis and others, my sex life is none of your damn
> > > > >> business.  It is no big secret that I am gay, so you
> > > > >> have not scored any major points in exposing that.
> > > > >> So now tell me, how does my sexual orientation effect
> > > > >> my credibility in discussing the Holocaust, and in
> > > > >> exposing the deniers for what they are?
> > > > >> I'm gay and loving it.  Now DEAL WITH IT!
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >Why more forgery, Don?  Aren't you supposed to not bear false
> witness?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>




From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:42 EST 2000
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Sara the screwball....I own hatewatch.com and hatewatch.net

Just keep making an ass out of yourself.


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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article , "Hate Watch"
>  wrote:
>
> >You talking to me or Mike?
> >
> >
> >--
> >Don Ellis
> >
> >
> >
> >"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
> >news:TWEl4.105$r85.12730@news.uswest.net...
> >> If you can't read "Thou shalt not bear false witness", Don, I'm not
going
> >to
> >> be able to help you.
> >>
> >>
> >> Don Ellis, pretending to be "Mike Kalvatis"  wrote
in
> >> message news:jb5e9sshkqusno7gcrvop4adr3hsh3jtls@4ax.com...
> >> > prove it.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:59:44 -0600, "Joel Rosenberg"
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >Don Ellis, forging a message as "Ken McVay" 
wrote
> >> in
> >> > >message news:200002010610.WAA08785@cyberpass.net...
> >> > >> To Ellis and others, my sex life is none of your damn
> >> > >> business.  It is no big secret that I am gay, so you
> >> > >> have not scored any major points in exposing that.
> >> > >> So now tell me, how does my sexual orientation effect
> >> > >> my credibility in discussing the Holocaust, and in
> >> > >> exposing the deniers for what they are?
> >> > >> I'm gay and loving it.  Now DEAL WITH IT!
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >Why more forgery, Don?  Aren't you supposed to not bear false
witness?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
> Forgery forwarded to jme@SEARK.NET, abuse@bcandid.com, abuse@innocent.com,
> abuse@Mail.com, spamcomplaints@cw.net
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:43 EST 2000
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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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>
> >> Why more forgery, Don?  Aren't you supposed to not bear false
> >> witness?
>
> > Isn't that a christian thing?
>
> Actually, kind of a Jewish thing.  Or are you going to argue that
> *Jesus* got the Ten Commandments from Mt. Sinai?
>

Well, which one is it?


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"Orac"  wrote in message
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> >>
> >> Why more forgery, Don?  Aren't you supposed to not bear false witness?
> >>
> > Isn't that a christian thing?
>
> Clearly you don't know the first thing about what's Christian and what's
not.
>
Maybe that is it has a question mark behind it.

Want a dumbass.


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"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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> > >
> > > Why more forgery, Don?  Aren't you supposed to not bear false witness?
> > >
> >  Isn't that a christian thing?
> >
>
>
> Why are you saying that Christians bear false witness, Don?
>
It's a question you dumb fuck, I am not christian.


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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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>
> Not exclusively. Most people understand that being honest is the right
> thing to do. You don't.
>
> JGB

Your a fine one to talk chicken hawk.


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"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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>
> Err, Don, in case you haven't noticed, that isn't the only question of
yours
> that Ken refuses to answer.  He won't answer if you ask him what time it
is,
> either.
>
> See, Don, this is America, and, let's face it:  you just don't count.
>

Go try and sober your drunk ass mother up.


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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> Are you going to stop forging, Donnie?
>
> JGB
>

Well chicken hawk, that depends if your asking me.


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From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:45 EST 2000
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"Orac"  wrote in message news:B4BCC141.1ECE9%Orac@mac.com...
> In article 389742A4.246239F3@usaor.net, ipm at ipm@usaor.net wrote on
> 2/1/2000 3:31 PM:
>
> > Ken McVay wrote:
> >>
> >> To Ellis and others, my sex life is none of your damn
> >> business.  It is no big secret that I am gay, so you
> >> have not scored any major points in exposing that.
> >> So now tell me, how does my sexual orientation effect
> >> my credibility in discussing the Holocaust, and in
> >> exposing the deniers for what they are?
> >> I'm gay and loving it.  Now DEAL WITH IT!
> >
> > Ok, McVay, I'll give you credit for finally having the guts to admit
> > that you're a homosexual. Now, can we get Jeff Brown to tell the truth
> > too?
>
> Gee, either you're joking or you must be reeeaaalllly stupid not to have
> realized that the post supposedly attributed to McVay was a very obvious
> forgery.
> --
Sure it's real. McVay said so.


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From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:46 EST 2000
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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> In article <389742A4.246239F3@usaor.net>, Williworm Scott 
wrote:
>
> >Ken McVay wrote:
> >>
> >> To Ellis and others, my sex life is none of your damn
> >> business.  It is no big secret that I am gay, so you
> >> have not scored any major points in exposing that.
> >> So now tell me, how does my sexual orientation effect
> >> my credibility in discussing the Holocaust, and in
> >> exposing the deniers for what they are?
> >> I'm gay and loving it.  Now DEAL WITH IT!
> >
> >Ok, McVay, I'll give you credit for finally having the guts to admit
> >that you're a homosexual. Now, can we get Jeff Brown to tell the truth
> >too?
>
> Why -- are you going to forge my name to a post if I don't, Williworm?
>
> JGB
>
I doubt that he will use your name...no one but you loves being labeled as a
chicken hawk (child molester)

You one sick fucker.


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From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:46 EST 2000
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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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> >I wonder if Jeffery Brown cruises there?
>
> Even if he doesn't, you'll meet somebody else.
>
> - --
>  John Morris                                
>  at University of Alberta  
>
Not me, only trash live in Canada.


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From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:46 EST 2000
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I own it dumbass


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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
news:catamont-0102001923570001@ts004d39.den-co.concentric.net...
> In article , "Hate Watch"
>  wrote:
>
> >I wonder if Jeffery Brown cruises there?
> >
> >
> >--
> >Hate Watch of America
> >http://www.hatewatch.com
> >
> >
> >"Thinny Bilston"  wrote in message
> >news:200002010610.WAA08777@cyberpass.net...
> >> Ken McVay, you really must explain why you have been seen
> >> going into a gay bar in Vancouver called Dude City.
> >> I suppose you are going to tell us there are alot of
> >> Holocaust survivors in there for you to interview???
> >>
>
> Forgery forwarded to jme@SEARK.NET, abuse@bcandid.com, abuse@innocent.com,
> abuse@Mail.com, spamcomplaints@cw.net
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:47 EST 2000
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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
news:jeff_brown-0102002133490001@cvg-27-166-182.cinci.rr.com...
> In article , "Gutless Donnie
> Ellis"  wrote:
>
> >You talking to me or Mike?
>
> He was talking to you, Donnie. You were forging other people's names on
> your posts.
>
> Do you plan to stop?
>
> JGB
>

Who was talking to me?


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From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:47 EST 2000
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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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>
> RRRRRrrrrrr.  I'll bet you're a hunka-hunka burnin' love.
>
> - --
>  John Morris                                
>  at University of Alberta  
>

Please don't tell me I turn you on. No deal here for you faggot...I'm str8!


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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> Have you stopped forging yet, Donnie?
>
> JGB
>
Are you talking to me?


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From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:48 EST 2000
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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> Are you going to stop forging?
>
> JGB
>
Ask Tavish, he is an honest man.


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From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:48 EST 2000
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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> Simple question. Just answer it.
>
> JGB
>
You talking to me?

If so what question?


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From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:49 EST 2000
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Hello fat bitch, you did it again...I own the domains


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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article , "Hate Watch"
>  wrote:
>
> >"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
> >news:catamont-0102000926200001@ts004d48.den-co.concentric.net...
> >> In article , Orac
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article , "Sara
Salzman"
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>They might ask him if he is a homosexual.
> >> >
> >> >Or they might ask you why you persistently forge other people's names
in
> >the
> >> >posts of your headers.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Don't bother to ask, just forward them to:
> >>
> >> jme@SEARK.NET, abuse@bcandid.com, abuse@innocent.com, abuse@Mail.com
> >>
> >Yes, please forward them.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Hate Watch of America
> >http://www.hatewatch.com
>
> Forgery forwarded to jme@SEARK.NET, abuse@bcandid.com, abuse@innocent.com,
> abuse@Mail.com, spamcomplaints@cw.net
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




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You must be a idiot, once again I own the domains.

go ahead..send me an e-mail to comments@hatewatch.com


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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article , "Hate Watch"
>  wrote:
>
> >Ken could be waiting on his boyfriend.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Rip"  wrote in message
> >news:cmgc9s054c7relcc7u65edq25h5j19sm6m@4ax.com...
> >> While reading the latest transcript of the Irving - Lipstadt libel
> >> trial taking place in London, and the testimony of expert witnesses,
> >> it occurred to me that Ken McVay hasn't been summoned as an expert
> >> witness of some kind for the defense.
> >>
> >> Maybe he is on standby to go to London later. Does he have a ticket in
> >> hand to respond mecurically when the clarion call for his services is
> >> blasted from across the big pond?
> >>
> >> What would be his area of expertise anyway?
> >>
> >> Do tell us Ken!
> >>
> >> Rip
>
> Forgery forwarded to jme@SEARK.NET, abuse@bcandid.com, abuse@innocent.com,
> abuse@Mail.com, spamcomplaints@cw.net
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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> You're also a boring moron.
>
> Steve

Does that turn you on Steve?


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From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:50 EST 2000
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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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> Orac wrote:
> >
> > In article 389742A4.246239F3@usaor.net, ipm at ipm@usaor.net wrote on
> > 2/1/2000 3:31 PM:
> >
> > > Ken McVay wrote:
> > >>
> > >> To Ellis and others, my sex life is none of your damn
> > >> business.  It is no big secret that I am gay, so you
> > >> have not scored any major points in exposing that.
> > >> So now tell me, how does my sexual orientation effect
> > >> my credibility in discussing the Holocaust, and in
> > >> exposing the deniers for what they are?
> > >> I'm gay and loving it.  Now DEAL WITH IT!
> > >
> > > Ok, McVay, I'll give you credit for finally having the guts to admit
> > > that you're a homosexual. Now, can we get Jeff Brown to tell the truth
> > > too?
> >
> > Gee, either you're joking or you must be reeeaaalllly stupid not to have
> > realized that the post supposedly attributed to McVay was a very obvious
> > forgery.
>
>
> My guess is he's stupid.
>
> Steve
>
Maybe you stupid not to believe it.


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From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  1 22:54:51 EST 2000
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Are you a homosexual?


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From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  2 00:38:22 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Of course not. You're a lunatic idiot. Anyone can see that.
>
> Sara
>
Your the one who sent all those FAKE reports, you dumb fatass bitch.


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From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  2 00:38:22 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article <87854i027it@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
> Well, I'll be darned, Doc! Raymond Zwerin is my Rabbi here in Denver!
> Thanks for hyping his writings!
>
> Sara

WATCH OUT DOC! She/he will send a fake report on you.


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From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  2 00:38:23 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Not fake at all. You're spamming, and you've been called on it.
>
> You forged my name twice today, and you've been called on it.
>
> And if you e-mail me again, you foul-mouthed Nazi, you'll be called on it
> again... by my lawyer.
>
> Sara

The Posts I make are mostly replies...not spamming.

I never forged anything...do you really believe you're the only Sara on the
net?

Please have your lawyer call me, it will be interesting.



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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Not at all, you foul-mouthed Nazi. I'm delighted that Tavish wants to
> publicise the writings of my local Rabbi.
>
> Sara
>
Good, you loud mouth bitch. Leave me alone


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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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> I'm not so stupid that I ask the same dumb question over and over and
> over.
>
> Steve


Maybe not, but your a dumbass to keep posting replies to it.

It's the same fucking thing you idiot.


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"Mike Kalvatis"  wrote in message
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> Auto Reponse to Jeffrey G. Brown

LOOK OUT Mike...Sara is stalking you now!


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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
 But hey, you're the one who invited me over.

So your still having hot flashes over me? You sure your not Sara?


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Kenneth McVay are you a homosexual?


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But I would rather fuck a cow then her.




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"dudalb"  wrote in message
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> DOn Ellis wrote:
> Good, you loud mouth bitch. Leave me alone
> And Sara ,without raising her voice, forces yet another "Aryan Warrior"
into
> complete and total retreat....
>
Make that "Black Aryan Warrior"....I'm African American.


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But I would rather fuck a cow then her.




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"dudalb"  wrote in message
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> DOn Ellis wrote:
> Good, you loud mouth bitch. Leave me alone
> And Sara ,without raising her voice, forces yet another "Aryan Warrior"
into
> complete and total retreat....
>
Make that "Black Aryan Warrior"....I'm African American.


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From: Sara Ellis 
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Subject: She also hit on me!
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But I would rather fuck a cow then her.




From who@is.s.sas Wed Feb  2 01:20:58 EST 2000
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From: David Salzman 
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Subject: Sara Salzman = smelly fish
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Get some help Sara



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From: Sara McVay 
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Subject: I wish I could get Don Ellis in bed.
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 00:25:49 -0500
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I been chasing after him for years. And he won't take my bait.

He claims to want to be a fag rather than have sex with me!!!





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From: "David E. Michael" 
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Subject: Sara Salzman offered me a blow job.
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I rather get head from a dog.



From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  2 19:21:42 EST 2000
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From: "Jeffery Tavish" 
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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LEAVE ME ALONE




From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  2 19:21:57 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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STOP STALKING ME




From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  2 19:22:08 EST 2000
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"Orac"  wrote in message
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>
> I'd be willing to bet it's very likely NOT John Brown.
>
> --
> Orac


LIKE YOUR NAME IS REALLY ORAC?






From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  2 19:48:39 EST 2000
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YOU ARE WHITE

YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS

YOU HAVE NO HERITAGE



"w hingerty"  wrote in message
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> Recently here in Richmond VA a bunch of Tapestrys of prominent Virginians
> were hung up on the wall of the new Canal. Well the Afrikan-Americans
> couldnt stand the fact that Robert E Lee was in Confederate garb so they
> whined until the weakneed yuppies removed it. The Sons of COnfed Vets
didnt
> take this lieing down so finally they put him back up, only this time in
> mufti. Well that wasnt enuff. They(black fredom fighters?) torched Marse
> Robert. My question is this..Why isnt this considered a Hate crime? It is
> only considered vandalism. Had it been a pic of Nat Turner or Martin Luter
> King, it would have been the crime of the century. But there is no such
> thing as hatecrimes against whites. What hypocrisy.
>
>




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SARA STOP STALKING ME


"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article , "The Nikzor
> Report"  wrote:
>
> >The White Holocaust
> >
> >God dropped as much as 18 inches of snow in southern Arkansas on
Thursday,
> >with central and northern sections of the state getting 5 to 8 inches. In
> >what is now called the White Holocaust, it was the state's heaviest
snowfall
> >in 12 years and the deadest.
> >
> >Holocaust officials said more than 300 chicken houses in Arkansas were
> >damaged or destroyed when their roofs collapsed under the weight of the
> >snow. Under this blanket of tin, wood and snow lay thousands of dead
white
> >chickens. Survivors were seen sheeeking and clucking in terror.
> >
> >Unofficial holocaust records show over 10.5 million lives were taken in
this
> >horrible act of God. Today many black booted farmers built huge fires,
> >burning dead and live chickens.
> >
> >Gov. Mike Huckabee filed for a  federal holocaust disaster declaration
> >request. God was last seen whipping the winds south of Finland.
>
> forwarded to jme@SEARK.NET, abuse@bcandid.com, abuse@innocent.com,
> abuse@Mail.com, news@cw.net
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




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OH SARA, YOU HAVE REPLIED TO EVERY POST I HAVE MADE IN A STALKING MANNER.
THE PPL YOU ARE FORWARDING THESE MESSAGES TO HAVE CONTACTED ME, THEY ARE
GOING TO START BLOCKING YOUR E-MAILS.


--
The American Guardian
http://www.thundernet.org

"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article <87af3l$okf$1@nnrp03.primenet.com>, howardk@primenet.com
> (Howard Knight) wrote:
>
> >Don Ellis (don@thundernet.org) writes:
> >
> >: So far you're the only one posting here I care to honestly respond to.
> >: Those who are doing the complaining are in fact the very ones who
> >: started this whole affair. People like Brown, Orac, Sara, Morris mostly
> >: post crude one liners that involve name calling, slander, even bitching
> >: about a misspelled word. They don't offer anything to revisionism, but
> >: to flame anyone who disagrees with them.
> >
> >Sounds like you may also benefit from the use of a killfile.
> >
> >Howard
>
> Howard:
>
> In order to understand your position, let me ask a question:
>
> Is it Usenet abuse to post a single question (Ken McVay, are you a
> homosexual?) more than 50 times to the same Usenet group?
>
> Respectfully,
> Sara
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  2 19:48:40 EST 2000
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"Orac"  wrote in message
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>
> Oddly enough, Don now appears to want to play the wronged party and
explain
> himself. Gee, I wonder if this sudden change in behavior for the better
had
> anything to do with Sara and others forwarding all his posts to the
various
> complaint addresses of his ISP's upstream providers.
>
> --

I GUESS YOU GOING TO FORCE ME TO PROVE YOU WRONG. YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN TO
SHUT THE FUCK UP.




From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  2 23:20:29 EST 2000
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GO COUNT THEM...IT IS WELL UNDER 20


"Howard Knight"  wrote in message
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> Sara Salzman (catamont@concentric.net) writes:
>
> : Howard:
> :
> : In order to understand your position, let me ask a question:
> :
> : Is it Usenet abuse to post a single question (Ken McVay, are you a
> : homosexual?) more than 50 times to the same Usenet group?
>
> It is Usenet abuse to post _anything_ more than 20 times in a 45 day
> period (aka spamming).
>
> Howard




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SARA STOP STALKING ME


--
The American Guardian
http://www.thundernet.org


"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article <_44m4.17985$ox5.4097248@tw11.nn.bcandid.com>, "Jeffery Tavish"
>  wrote:
>
> >GO COUNT THEM...IT IS WELL UNDER 20
> >
> >
> >"Howard Knight"  wrote in message
> >news:87ai1o$p8v$1@nnrp03.primenet.com...
> >> Sara Salzman (catamont@concentric.net) writes:
> >>
> >> : Howard:
> >> :
> >> : In order to understand your position, let me ask a question:
> >> :
> >> : Is it Usenet abuse to post a single question (Ken McVay, are you a
> >> : homosexual?) more than 50 times to the same Usenet group?
> >>
> >> It is Usenet abuse to post _anything_ more than 20 times in a 45 day
> >> period (aka spamming).
> >>
> >> Howard
>
> So I take it Tavish approves of your using his name now? Figures....
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  2 23:20:30 EST 2000
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SARA STOP STALKING


"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
news:catamont-0202001912570001@ts012d38.den-co.concentric.net...
> In article , "Jeffery Tavish"
>  wrote:
>
> >"Orac"  wrote in message
> >news:Orac-953B3D.18592202022000@news.earthlink.net...
> >>
> >> Oddly enough, Don now appears to want to play the wronged party and
> >explain
> >> himself. Gee, I wonder if this sudden change in behavior for the better
> >had
> >> anything to do with Sara and others forwarding all his posts to the
> >various
> >> complaint addresses of his ISP's upstream providers.
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >I GUESS YOU GOING TO FORCE ME TO PROVE YOU WRONG. YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN TO
> >SHUT THE FUCK UP.
>
> Threat noted and forwarded to appropriate ISPs and authorities.
>
> Sara
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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>
> False. You have made numerous posts to this and other newsgroups under the
> names of other regular participants.
>
> When do you plan to stop forging _and_ lying, Gutless Donnie?
>
>
> JGB
>
DONNIE WHO?




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KEN ARE YOU BISEXUAL?


--
The American Guardian
http://www.thundernet.org




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"Orac"  wrote in message
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My apologies to all >
> --
> Orac


I FORGIVE YOU




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"Gord McFee"  wrote in message
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>
> Good God, he's forging Bradbury.
>
> --
> Gord McFee


What God? Who is Bradbury?


--
Jeffery G. Brown
Vice-Pres.
Hate Watch of America
http://www.hatewatch.com




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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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What?


--
Jeffery G. Brown
Vice-Pres.
Hate Watch of America
http://www.hatewatch.com




From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  2 23:20:32 EST 2000
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WASHINGTON -- German negotiators have backed down on a plan that threatened
talks over how to distribute $5.2 billion to Nazi-era slave and forced
laborers, says the U.S. negotiator.

Deputy Treasury Secretary Stuart Eizenstat said German negotiator Otto
Lambsdorff agreed Tuesday that Germany will revise draft legislation that
would have deducted compensation money in cases of victims who had already
received payments under previous German World War II restitution programs.

At a news conference at the end of two days of talks, Eizenstat noted that
the U.S. government and victims' representatives opposed the plan, which he
called "a potential deal breaker" in a year-old effort to compensate
laborers as well as some other categories of Holocaust survivors.

Negotiators for German government and industry, victims and five European
governments were meeting to work out how to divide $5.2 billion Germany
pledged last month toward the so-called German Foundation Initiative.

The initiative, partly in answer to lawsuits filed in the United States, is
to compensate for the first time people forced to do unpaid labor in support
of the Nazi war machine. In return for setting up the fund, German
government and industry would get what Eizenstat called "legal peace" - a
promise the U.S. government will oppose any further lawsuits seeking
Holocaust-related claims in U.S. courts.

Germany has paid $60 billion in reparations and compensation for a number of
Holocaust wrongs. But until this initiative, it has not paid the millions
forced to work for companies, farms, municipalities.

Most who would receive money from the fund are Christians forced into work
as Germany overran Central and Eastern European countries during the war.
Negotiators differ greatly on the number of laborers still surviving.
Estimates run from 1.3 million to 2.3 million.


--
Jeffery G. Brown
Vice-Pres.
Hate Watch of America
http://www.hatewatch.com




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"William Daffer"  wrote in message
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>
>   Do you own the upstream provider? Hum?
>
> William
>
I do own a cabin at a lake...does that count?




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Doc your my hero.


"Doc Tavish"  wrote in message
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>
>
>  ----------  Forwarded Message Follows  ----------
>
>
> On  2-Feb-2000, ipm  wrote:
>
> > Come on Ken, put the rumors to rest. Are you gay or aren't you?
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > ipm
>
> I once heard that Ken could suck a golf ball through a garden hose!
>
> Doc Tavish




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Send me a copy Tavish.

postmaster@thundernet.org




"Doc Tavish"  wrote in message
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>
> On  2-Feb-2000, Fergus McClelland  wrote:
>
> > Is a real human being who debates - in a manner rarely offensive, but
> > very robust - in this newsgroup. Nothing has ever been revealed by her
> > or anyone about her private life.
>
> She is very close to her dog (Welsh Corgi) in Denver, Colorado and she has
> made a threat of violence against me which I am considering having
prosecuted.
> All of the above revealed by her in your favourite newsgroup!
>
> Doc Tavish




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Doc Tavish is my Daddy.


"Doc Tavish"  wrote in message
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>
> On  2-Feb-2000, "Orac Brown"  wrote:
>
> > SARA STOP STALKING ME
> >
> > --
> > The American Guardian
> > http://www.thundernet.org
> >
> >
> > "Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
> > news:catamont-0202001911290001@ts012d38.den-co.concentric.net...
> > > In article <_44m4.17985$ox5.4097248@tw11.nn.bcandid.com>, "Jeffery
Tavish"
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > >GO COUNT THEM...IT IS WELL UNDER 20
>
> > > >"Howard Knight"  wrote in message
> > > >news:87ai1o$p8v$1@nnrp03.primenet.com...
> > > >> Sara Salzman (catamont@concentric.net) writes:
> > > >>
> > > >> : Howard:
> > > >> :
> > > >> : In order to understand your position, let me ask a question:
> > > >> :
> > > >> : Is it Usenet abuse to post a single question (Ken McVay, are you
a
> > > >> : homosexual?) more than 50 times to the same Usenet group?
>
> He is a homo because if he wasn't he'd denied it by now I'd think.
>
> > > >> It is Usenet abuse to post _anything_ more than 20 times in a 45
day
> > > >> period (aka spamming).
>
> Have you ever considered all of the absolute worthless crap that you
lefties post?
> Have you considered the quality of information that Jeffrey G. Brown,
Steve Wolk,
> DUDALB, Buck Turgidson et al post? You are a damned hypocrite! What they
post is
> no where on topic and does not add to the climate of the newsgroups.
>
> > > >> Howard
> > >
> > > So I take it Tavish approves of your using his name now? Figures....
>
> Why should I care? Your side has been doing it for quite a while now! At
least
> when he is doing it the message is more in the spirit of what I'd say.
Live with
> it Eternal Pest.
>
> Doc Tavish




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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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>
> Oh, Scottikins, you say that to everyone.  Obviously, your mouth is a
> lot bigger than your wallet.  Is the Schwinn Cessna all greased up and
> ready to roll?
>
> Steve
>
Are you asking Tavish for a date Steve?




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"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> Apparently, Mr Ellis..through reading Knight's posts about how Ellis
> activity on this newsgroup was not usenet abuse...thought there might be
> a "spritual connection" between himself and Mr. Knight. Do you feel
> insulted Mr. Knight? You should. I can assure you Mr. Ellis holds you in
> the utmost contempt.

You are wrong.

People have no worth to him unless he can use them.

That is a lie.

> But for the record, let's run it down once again. Mr. Ellis has been
> posting false headers with subject lines as "Sarah Salzman smells like a
> fish", "Dees wife is ugly", "Sara is a whore", "McVay is gay", etc.

Look at the headers...it was not me


> Often the address is innocent@protect.

the address is protect@innocent.com



Ellis has actually forged Ken
> McVay's addess.

That is a lie.

I've seen that a few times as I'm sure some other
> posters have. Ellis' mind has produced all these posts. Excuse the
> crudity but everyone recognizes the floating turd which refuses to flush
> that is Don's postings. Not even the revisionists have come to his
> defense to exclaim in revelation, "My goodness, that really is McVay
> saying he is gay," etc. They just ignore him although Dr. Michael,
> according to posts I've read, apparently is revolved by Don's
> counterfeit postings pretending to be somebody else.

I do not pertend.


Quite honostly, a
> creative and intelligent person could do serious damage by forging
> McVay's email address and pretending to be him. But Ellis isn't trying
> to do that, not that he could.

Which is it?

His efforts are so transparent and
> pathological and simple that they merely serve as a means to defame and
> intimidate. And even here he doesn't do a very good job.

Then why are you complaining?


Let's hope
> complaints to his upsteam providers have tamed him. But they may not.
> Eventually he may be forging and or defamatory headers on several more
> anti-revisionist posters on alt.revisionism. He may continue to up the
> ante until somebody finally does do something. Mr. Ellis has just enough
> intelligence to be dangerous.

Do you know me?


 I agree with McVay's analysis of him
> devouring himself. That is exactly what he is doing and that's why he is
> somewhat insane.

you may be right, I may be crazy


--
Don Ellis


> Michael Ragland
>




From comments@hatewatch.com Thu Feb  3 02:49:58 EST 2000
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From comments@hatewatch.com Thu Feb  3 02:49:58 EST 2000
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From: "Don Ellis" 
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"Andew Skolniick"  wrote in message
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>
> Wrong as usual.
>
> I don't know what you were betting, but you have nothing of interest to
me -- so keep
> whatever it was. I don't want either a trailer home or a 1982 Ford pickup
truck with
> Confederate flag upholstery and an old cloth for a gas cap. Even if you
own something else
> of value, I doubt it would ever be free of your smell. There is a reason
they don't sell
> fur coats made of skunk skins.
>
> You know, they burned Hitler's corpse with gasoline 55 years ago. But you
can still smell
> his stench right here on these two newsgroups. Some vile filth
unfortunately seems
> eternal.
>
> Andrew
>

Andrew you're so full of hate.




From comments@hatewatch.com Thu Feb  3 13:34:40 EST 2000
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From: "Don Ellis" 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,alt.politics.homosexuality
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"James Doemer"  wrote in message
news:38996d09@news.provide.net...
>
> Mike Kalvatis  wrote in message
> news:5qai9s4dkc7lsmum9rdl8nu3dmg600939n@4ax.com...
>
> Mike, thanks for preaching, but alt.politics.homosexuality is
> a forum for discussing the political issues surrounding homosexuality.
> Religion is irrelevant to the political issues.    Please make your
> posts of a religious nature to an appropriate newsgroup.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
It was John Morris who asked the question, not Mike.




From comments@hatewatch.com Thu Feb  3 13:34:40 EST 2000
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"Orac"  wrote in message
news:Orac-818489.08004103022000@news.earthlink.net...
> In article , "Jeffery Tavish"
>  wrote:
>
> >"Orac"  wrote in message
> >news:Orac-B02CB8.10274602022000@news.earthlink.net...
> >>
> >> I'd be willing to bet it's very likely NOT John Brown.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Orac
> >
> >
> >LIKE YOUR NAME IS REALLY ORAC?
>
> No, but my real name is always in my .sig file.
>
> --
> Orac        |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
> a.k.a.      |
> David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
>             | inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again

Let's see some proof. Is it really your real name?


--
The American Guardian
http://www.thundernet.org




From comments@hatewatch.com Thu Feb  3 21:09:30 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Like signing them up for over 50 sex mailing lists? That's what Mr. Ellis
> did to me last night.
>
Your a damn liar. I would like to see the headers myself.


--
Don Ellis





From comments@hatewatch.com Thu Feb  3 21:09:30 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> I have changed names ONCE due to a divorce, from my ex husband's last name
> (Schwartz) to my maiden name (Salzman).
>
>
> Sara
>
I wish he would take you back and maybe you would leave me alone. But then
again I don't want to wish anything bad on the guy.


--
Don Ellis





From comments@hatewatch.com Fri Feb  4 14:17:41 EST 2000
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HTML FORMAT?




--
Hate Watch of America
http://www.hatewatch.com




From comments@hatewatch.com Fri Feb  4 14:17:41 EST 2000
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,.




From comments@hatewatch.com Fri Feb  4 14:17:41 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>    According to today's newspaper, Catherine Zeta Jones is going to
> convert to Judaism before marrying Michael Douglas.
>
> Sorry, White Boys... you lost another one... :)
>
> Sara


I AM NOT WHITE




From comments@hatewatch.com Fri Feb  4 14:17:42 EST 2000
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"Gord McFee"  wrote in message
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>
> Don, you're so full of shit.
>
> --
> Gord McFee
> I'll write no line before its time


THEN I HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT SHIT EATER




From comments@hatewatch.com Fri Feb  4 14:17:42 EST 2000
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From: "Michael Ragland" 
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"Orac"  wrote in message
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> In article <1630-3898FBBB-53@storefull-621.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
> Michael872@webtv.net (Michael Ragland) wrote:
>
> >Wasn't aware of it being bad netiquette. Often, URLs are posted on
> >alt.revisionism but that requires the reader to click on it. If the
> >picture is posted in alt.revisionism (relevant to the topic of
> >discussion) it can suprise the reader and they will see it it WHETHER
> >they want to or not. Don't they say the Holocaust didn't happen or
> >minimize it? Photographic evidence of death can be powerful.
> >Regrettably, I'll probably not be doing this too much anymore because
> >you've inferred many have newsreaders which filter these out. But yours
> >didn't. You didn't like the picture, did you?
>
> No, it's certain ISPs that filter out all binary posts to non-binary
newsgroups
> (although I could probably set my newsreader to killfile posts containing
> binaries). This is a good practice, IMHO. In any case, nonbinary
newsgroups are
> given more limited amounts of storage space by most ISPs. Posting big
binaries
> will cause articles on the news server to expire faster by hogging disk
space
> dedicated to that newsgroup. It's also killer on people who use offline
> newsreaders, because they have to download all those binaries, whether
they look
> at them or not.
BOO HOO
> --
> Orac        |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
> a.k.a.      |
> David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
>             | inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again




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KEN MCVAY A PERVERT?




From comments@hatewatch.com Fri Feb  4 14:17:43 EST 2000
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"Fledgist"  wrote in message
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> >> >> --
> >> >> Orac
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >LIKE YOUR NAME IS REALLY ORAC?
> >>
> >> No, but my real name is always in my .sig file.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Orac        |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
> >> a.k.a.      |
> >> David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> >>             | inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again
> >
> >Let's see some proof. Is it really your real name?
> >
>
> No. His real name is Avon.
>


I CAN BELIEVE THAT



> Fragano Ledgister
> (Fledgist@aol.com)
> Dawn over the dark sea brings on the sun;
> She leans across the hilltop: see, the light!




From comments@hatewatch.com Fri Feb  4 14:17:43 EST 2000
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REWRITE HISTORY?




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I PICK JEWS


"revwhite"  wrote in message
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> If you had to pick one, which one you pick to be your neighbor?
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> You know, what fascinates me is that Mr. Ellis is obviously so enamoured
>
> --
STOP STALKING ME




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PHILLIPS DEFEATS BROWN AGAIN


"Richard Phillips"  wrote in message
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> Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> >
> > In article <3898FACC.14296113@mediaone.net>, Admitted Liar and Village
> > Idiot Richard Philllips  wrote:
> >
> > >Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> >
> > > [...deletia...]
> >
> > >> Your "recollection" has been shown to be shot through with more holes
than
> > >> John Dillinger, idiot.
> > >============================================
> > >Phillips
> > >
> > >OK. Tell us one. Just one, Jeffrey.
> >
> > Sure, idiot. Your recollection that you "backed off" your original
demands
> > for documentation of the Nazi gas chambers is in error. You did not
"back
> > off" at all. You drastically expanded the list -- and then lied about
> > having done so.
>
> =================================================
> Phillips
>
> I challenged you to name one --only one-- original constructive thought
> you had ever contributed to tthis NG. And what did we get?  Just another
> shrieking diatribe and one we have already heard fifty times before. Did
> you ever think of trying to say something original. Be like me. Think of
> how I am forever coming up with novel ways of insulting you.
>
> ==========================================================
> >
> > > [...deletia...]
> >
> > >Jeffrey, maybe you have forgotten the time that I posted the dictionary
> > >definition of the word "lie," challenged you to show how my statements
> > >met the conditions of that definition, only to be told that I could
> > >shove my conditions "where the sun doesn't shine."
> >
> > Haven't forgotten it at all, idiot.
> >
> > Tell me -- how does this change the fact that you are a liar?
>
> ==========================================================
> Phillips
>
> It depends on who we are to believe. Jeffrey insists tthat I'm a liar.
> The dictionary says I'm not. Take your choice.
>
> =============================================================
> >
> > > [...deletia...]
> >
> > >Vampires don't shit...
> >
> > Ah -- more facts from the "folk literature", idiot?
>
> ===================================================
> Phillips
>
> Then it is your position that vampires DO shit?
>
> ==========================================================
> >
> > > [...deletia...]
> >
> > >Well, knowing you were lying...
> >
> > Once again:
> >
> > Repeating one of your old fact-free accusations doesn't constitute
> > knowledge of much of anything, idiot.
> >
> > You "know" nothing of the sort, idiot. You're making a claim for which
you
> > have no supporting facts.
> >
> > > [...deletia...]
> >
> > >Then, to further support your position came the plaintive cry: "You
> > >thweatened me."
> >
> > False. That's another one of your bogus quotes. I never said that, Liar.
> ==========================================================================
> Phillips
>
> Really now. Next thing you'll probably do is stand there and deny ever
> having accused me of stealing your 'watchet wenches.'
>
> =====================================================================
> >
> > > [...deletia...]
> >
> > >The Elmer Fudd intonation was just for effect.
> >
> > Nope. It was a lie. Deal with it, idiot: you're a pathological liar.
> >
> > > [...deletia...]
> >
> > >But if you deny that you refused, then you're a liar.
> >
> > False.
> >
> > I never refused.
> >
> > Go ahead, idiot. Show us a post in which I refused to meet your demands.
> =============================================================
> Phillips
>
> Hang yourself higher, little man. I'm delighting in every minute.
>
> =========================================================
> >
> > > [...deletia...]
> >
> > >You're an alienated kike.
> >
> > False. I'm a fallen-away Methodist.
> ===================================================
> Phillips
>
> No possible way. You have the Kike mindset, you have Kike instincts, you
> have Kike reflexes. Everything about you screams Kike. You see, Jeffrey,
> I know those people because I grew up amongst them. Can't fool Liar
> Phillips.
>
> ======================================================================
> >
> > > [...deletia...]
> >
> > >I'm a patriotic one. America is my country.
> >
> > False. America is the country you want to destroy, to be replaced by a
> > Nazi dictatorship.
>
> ==========================================================
> Phillips
>
> If that is what it takes to ethnically cleanse the Greaseballs, if that
> is what it takes to make America once more a white man's country, if
> that is what it takes to clean out that male whorehouse that calls
> itself Congress, if that is what it takes to abolish commercial
> television, if that is what it takes to make all political correctness
> go the way of the Prohibition Amendment, if that is what it takes to
> crush the present Jewish stranglehold on public communications, if that
> is what it takes to put an end to the mental disease of Feminism, if
> that is what it takes to shitcan the entire State Department, if that is
> what it takes to make advocacy of Free Trade a hanging offence ... if a
> Nazi-style dictatorship is what is needed to bring about these results,
> then let us have a Nazi-style dictatorship.
>
> ==================================================================
>
>
> > You're no patriot at all, idiot. Just a lying bigot who can't deal with
> > the world as it is, and so wants it to change to meet his own infantile
> > demands.
> >
> > JGB
>
> Liar Phillips: Tell us, Jeffrey. How do you feel about Red China?
> Gibbering Jeffrey: Oh, I think it would be just lovely with a pink
> tablecloth.
>
> ====================================================
> >
> >




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YOU WILL TOO AFTER VIEWING HER PICTURE.

HERE IS HOW SHE DESCRIBES HERSELF:

"But I'm petite and attractive
With a mind bright and active
As you'll find if we meet face to face"
http://users.uniserve.com/~hostrov/ad.html

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE YOU CAN SEE SHE HER PIC HERE:
http://users.uniserve.com/~hostrov/hilary.gif

OUR UGLY METER RATES HER AT A (1) ON A SCALE OF 1 TO 10....AND WE'RE BEING
NICE.






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A FICTION BY ACTIVIST KEN MCVAY


"Kenneth McVay OBC"  wrote in message
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> Archive/File: camps/auschwitz hilberg.02
> Last-Modified: 1993/11/02
>
>   "The Auschwitz procedure evolved in stages.  In April 1942, Slovak Jews
>   were gassed in Crematorium I, apparently with their clothes on.<66>
>   Later, deportees from nearby Sosnowiec were told to undress in the
>   yard.  The victims, faced by the peremptory order to remove their
>   clothes, men in front of women and women in front of men, became
>   apprehensive.  The SS men, shouting at them, then drove the naked men,
>   women and children into the gas chamber.<67> During the third stage, in
>   1942, the abuse was replaced by politeness, and the speech making by
>   Aumeier, Grabner and Hossler began.  The victims were now told to
>   undress for the showers, before the soup that would be served
>   afterwards became cold.<68> For added security, gassings would be
>   scheduled for a time before daybreak, when the camp inmates were still
>   sleeping, or for the night hours, after the curfew had gone into
>   effect.<69>
>
>   At Birkenau, illusion was the rule.  It was not always simple or
>   possible, inasmuch as at least some of the deportees had observed the
>   sign 'Auschwitz' as the train passed through the railway yards,<70> or
>   had seen flames belching from the chimneys, or had smelled the
>   strange, sickening odor of the crematoria.<71> Most of them, however,
>   like a group from Salonika, were funneled through the undressing
>   rooms, were told to hang their clothes on hooks and remember the
>   number, and promised food after the shower and work after the food.
>   The unsuspecting Greek Jews, clutching soap and towels, rushed into
>   the gas chambers.<72> Nothing was allowed to disturb this precarious
>   synchronization.  When a Jewish inmate revealed to newly arrived
>   people what was in store for them, he was cremated alive.<73> Only in
>   the case of victims who were brought in from nearby ghettos in upper
>   Silesia (Sosnowiec and Bedzin) and who had had intimations of
>   Auschwitz was speed alone essential.  These people were told to
>   undress quickly in their 'own best interest.'<74>
>
>   Once there was a major incident in front of an Auschwitz gas chamber.
>   A transport that had come in from Belsen revolted.  The incident
>   occurred when two thirds of the arrivals had already been shoved into
>   the gas chamber.  The remainder of the transport, still in the
>   dressing room, had become suspicious.  When three or four SS men
>   entered to hasten the undressing, fighting broke out.  The light
>   cables were torn down, the SS men were overpowered, one of them was
>   stabbed, and all of them were deprived of their weapons. As the room
>   was plunged into complete darkness, wild shooting started between the
>   guard at the exit door and the prisoners inside.  When Hoss arrived at
>   the scene, he ordered the doors to be shut.  Half an hour passed.
>   Then, accompanied by a guard, Hoss stepped into the dressing room,
>   carrying a flashlight and pushing the prisoners into one corner.  From
>   there they were taken out singly into another room and shot.<75>
>
>   Selections were carried out not only on the platform, in order to pick
>   out deportees who would be able to work, but also within the camp, to
>   eliminate inmates too sick or too weak to work any longer.  The usual
>   occasion for the choosing of victims was the roll call, where
>   everybody was present;<76> another place was the hospital;<77> and
>   sometimes selections were carried out block by block.<78> One former
>   inmate, recalling such targeting, says: 'I tried to make myself as
>   inconspicuous as possible, not too erect, yet not slouching,; not too
>   smart, yet not too sloppy; not too proud, yet not too servile, for I
>   knew that those who were different died in Auschwitz, while the
>   anonymous, the faceless ones, survived.'<79> A young intellectual from
>   Italy, who was in an Auschwitz hospital because of a swollen foot, was
>   told by a gentile Polish inmate: 'Du Jude, kaputt.  Du schnell
>   Krematorium fertig [You Jew, finished.  You soon ready for
>   crematorium].'<80> In Treblinka, to have been bruised in the face was
>   considered a calamity.  The wounded man, 'stamped' (gestempelt), was a
>   candidate for selection at the next roll call.<81>
>
>   In Auschwitz the victims would try every subterfuge to escape.  They
>   tried to hide.  Occasionally they tried to argue.  A nineteen-year-old
>   girl asked the Auschwitz women's camp commander, Hossler, to excuse
>   her.  He replied, 'You have lived long enough.  Come, my child,
>   come.'<82> Driven by whips between cordons of Kapos and guards, the
>   naked people who had been picked out were loaded on trucks and driven
>   to the gas chambers or to a condemned block.  Before Christmas in
>   1944, 2,000 women were packed into Block 25, which had room for 500.
>   They were kept there for ten days.  Soup cauldrons were pushed through
>   a gap in the door by a fire guard.  At the end of ten days, 700 were
>   dead.  The rest were gassed.<83>
>
>   Gassing would begin with a command.  At Treblinka a German would shout
>   to a Ukranian guard: 'Ivan, water!'  This was a signal to start the
>   motor.<84> The procedure was not necessarily fast.  With no room to move
>   in the small chambers, the victims stood for thirty or forty minutes
>   before they died.  According to one Treblinka survivor, people were
>   sometimes kept in the chambers all night without the motor being
>   turned on.<85> At Belzec, where Oberscharfurer Hackenholt was in charge
>   of the motor, a German visitor, Professor Pfannenstiel, wanted to know
>   what was going on inside.  He is said to have put his ear to the wall
>   and, listening, to have remarked: 'Just like in a synagogue.'<86> At
>   Kulmhof, the doors to the van were closed by Polish workers. One was
>   inadvertently locked in with the Jews and raged in despair to get out.
>   The Germans decided that it would not be prudent to open the door for
>   him.<87>
>
>   When the Auschwitz victims filed into the gas chamber, they discovered
>   that the imitation showers did not work.88 Outside, a central switch
>   was pulled to turn off the lights,89 and a Red Cross car drove up with
>   the Zyklon.<90> An SS man, wearing a gas mask fitted with a special
>   filter, lifted the glass shutter over the lattice and emptied one can
>   after another into the gas chamber.  Although the lethal dose was one
>   milligram per kilogram of body weight and the effect was supposed to be
>   rapid, dampness could retard the speed with which the gas was
>   spreading.<91> Untersturmfuhrer Grabner, political officer of the camp,
>   stood ready with stopwatch in hand.<92> As the first pellets sublimated
>   on the floor of the chamber, the victims began to scream.  To escape
>   from the rising gas, the stronger knocked down the weaker, stepping on
>   prostrate victims in order to prolong their own lives by reaching
>   gas-free layers of air.  The agony lasted for about two minutes, and
>   as the shrieking subsided, the dying people slumped over.  Within
>   fifteen minutes (sometimes five), everyone in the gas chamber was
>   dead.
>
>   The gas was now allowed to escape and after about half an hour, the
>   door was opened.  The bodies were found in tower-like heaps, some in
>   sitting or half-sitting positions, children and older people at the
>   bottom.  Where the gas had been introduced, there was an empty area
>   from which the victims had backed away, and pressed against the door
>   were the bodies of men who in terror had tried to break out.  The
>   corpses were pink in color, with green spots.  Some had foam on the
>   lips, others bled through the nose.  Excrement and urine covered some
>   of the bodies, and in some pregnant women the birth process had
>   started.  The Jewish work parties (Sonderkommandos), wearing gas
>   masks, dragged out the bodies near the door to clear a path and hosed
>   down the dead, at the same time soaking the pockets of poison gas
>   remaining between the bodies.  Then the Sonderkommandos had to pry the
>   corpses apart.<93>
>
>   In all the camps bodily cavities were searched for hidden valuables,
>   and gold teeth were extracted from the mouths of the dead.  In
>   Crematorium II (new number) at Birkenau, the fillings and gold teeth,
>   sometimes attached to jaws, were cleaned in hydrochloric acid, to be
>   melted into bars in the main camp.94 At Auschwitz the hair of the
>   women was cut off after they were dead.  It was washed in ammonium
>   chloride before being packed.<95> The bodies could then be cremated."
>   (Hilberg, 967-976)
>
> Hilberg's end notes follow:
>
>   66.  Muller, Eyewitness Auschwitz, pp. 11-13.
>   67.  Ibid., pp.31-35.
>   68.  Ibid., pp.35-39.
>   69.  Ibid., p.39.
>   70.  Elie Wiesel, Night (New York, 1969), p. 36.  Interrogation of
>              Hilse, Case Novak, vol. 12, p. 605.  According to Hilse,
>              transports passed through the station.  The freight yards,
>              consisting of forty-four parallel tracks, were two miles
long.
>   71.  Lengyel, Five Chimneys, p.22.
>   72.  Muller, Eyewitness Aushchwitz, pp.80-81.
>   73.  Ibid, p.80.
>   74.  Ibid, pp.69-71.
>   75.  Affidavit by Hoss, March 14, 1946, NO-1210.  The incident
>              is described in greater detail by Muller, Eyewitness
Auschwitz,
>              pp.83-89.  Muller credits a seductive, strikingly
good-looking
>              Jewish woman with riveting the attention of two SS men. She
>              struck one with a shoe, drew his pistol and shot the other
>              (Schillinger).  Tadeusz Borowski, a Polish inmate, describes
the
>              incident in a story, 'The Death of Schillinger,' This Way to
the
>              Gas Ladies and Gentlemen (New York, 1976), pp. 143-146.  In
this
>              version, the woman, already naked, picked up gravel, threw it
at
>              Schillinger, and shot him with his own pistol.  The SS man,
>              mortally wounded, was carried to a car and, groaning, was
heard
>              to say:  'O Gott, mein Gott, was hab' ich getan, dass ich so
>              leiden muss?  [God, oh God, what have I done that I have
>              to suffer like this?].'
>   76.  Lengyel, Five Chimneys, p. 40.  Gisela Perl, I Was a
>              Doctor in Auschwitz (New York, 1948), p. 103.
>   77.  Lingens-Reiner, Prisoners of Fear, pp.64-65, 82-83, 85.
>              Perl, I Was a Doctor in Auschwitz, pp.55, 94, 108-9.
>   78.  Perl, Ibid., pp.128-30.
>   79.  Rudolf Vrba and Alan Bestic, I Cannot Forgive (New York,
>              1964), p. 140.  Vrba, anonymous but not average, escaped from
the
>              camp.
>   80.  Primo Levi, Survival in Auschwitz (New York, 1961), p.44.
>   81.  Ruckerl, NS-Vernichtungslager, p. 230.
>   82.  Testimony by Helene Klein in Raymond Phillips, ed., Trial
>              of Josef Kramer, (London, 1949), pp.127-30.  The witness
herself
>              was given this answer by Hossler, but she managed to hide.  A
>              survivor, Dr. Bertold Epstein, once witnessed a selection of
>              children in which the decisive criterion was height.  The
>              children marched up to a pole at the height of 4 feet and
3.18
>              inches.  Those who did not make it were gassed.  Friedman,
>              Oswiecim, p. 72.
>   83.  Ella Lingens-Reiner, Prisoners of Fear, (London, 1948),
>              pp. 85-86.
>   84.  Ruckerl, NS-Vernichtungslager, p. 224.
>   85.  Wiernik, 'One Year, ' in Donat, Treblinka, p. 164.
>   86.  Statement by Gerstein, April 26, 1945, PS-1553.
>              Pfannestiel confirms that he was in Belzec in Gerstein, but
denies
>              having made the remark.  Statements by Dr. Wilhelm
Pfannenstiel,
>              June 6, 1950, and November 9, 1952, Belzec case, vol. 1,
pp.41-44,
>              135-141.  German personnel stationed in Belzec would
sometimes
>              look through the peephole.  Statement by Schluch, November
10,
>              1961, Belzec case, vol.  8, pp. 1503-25.  Pfannenstiel points
out
>              in his statement of November 9, 1952, that when he tried to
look
>              he could not see much, because the Jews had beaten on the
glass.
>   87.  Ruckerl, NS-Vernichtungslager, pp. 270-71.
>   88.  Sehn, 'Oswiecim, 'German Crimes in Poland, vol. 1, p.85.
>   89.  Affidavit by Dr. Nikolae Nyiszli (survivor), October 8,
>              1947, N1-11710.
>   90.  Ibid, Affidavit by Dr. Charles Sigismund Bendel
>              (survivor).  October 21, 1945, N1-11390.
>   91.  Hoss, Kommandant, p. 171.  Muller, Eyewitness Auschwitz,
>              p. 116.
>   92.  Affidavit by Perry Broad (SS man working under Grabner),
>              December 14, 1945, N1-11397.
>   93.  Muller, Eyewitness Auschwitz, pp. 116-18.  Affidavit by
>              Nyiszli, October 8, 1947, N1-11710.  Affidavit by Broad,
>              December 14, 1945, N1-11397.  Affidavit by Hoss, April 5,
>              1946, PS-3868.  Sehn, 'Oswiecim, 'German Crimes in Poland,
>              vol. 1, pp. 85-87.
>   94.  Muller, Eyewitness Auschwitz, pp. 68, 95, 100, 176.
>   95.  Ibid., pp. 65, 95, 100.
>
>                             Work Cited
>
> Hilberg, Raul. The Destruction of the European Jews. Holmes & Meier, 1985.
>
> --
> The Nizkor Project          An Electronic Holocaust Education Resource
> RealVideo Filmclips     http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/bergen-belsen
> from the liberated         http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/nordhausen
> camps of Nazi Germany      http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/mauthausen
>




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WARNING: ADULT CONTENT POSTED BY AN IDIOT


"Thinny Bilston"  wrote in message
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> Tavish......
>
> SHUT THE FUCK UP
>
>




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"David E Michael"  wrote in message
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>
> He apparently disapproves of accusations of perversion (even when they are
> supported by evidence).
>
> David
>

THAT SOUNDS LIKE JEFFERY BROWN




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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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>
> Predict what you like. It's already been established that you'll be
> remembered as the bigot who lied.
>
> JGB
>
AND YOU AS A CHICKEN HAWK




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"Eugene Holman"  wrote in message
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>
> True. But they were killed either as soldiers or as a consequence of
> military action. >


YES, BUT AT LEAST THEY GOT OFF THEIR ASS AND DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AND NOW
THE "FEARLESS" JEWS ARE CONDUCTING THEIR OWN CONTINENT WIDE ETHNIC CLEANSING
OF PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH THEM




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Thanks Anon,

  If you have anymore articles like this please send them to us.

We are constructing a web site special to Ken McVay.


--
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"Anonymous remailer"  wrote in message
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> Several years ago
> In Vancouver B.C.
> The Jews sought a man
> Who was very P.C.
>
> One who would bootlick
> Grovel and pander
> And strongly attack
> Any anti-Jew slander
>
> Many folks applied
> Only one met the test
> A wimpy little guy
> Known to many as a pest
>
> This strange little man said
> "Call me Ken McVay"
> Some of the Jews thought
> He seemed a little gay
>
> He told all assembled
> "I'm a gas pump attendant
> But look how I'm wearing
> a Satr of David pendant"
>
> "And I'm really not a fag
> That's just a silly rumor
> Started by some Nazis
> With their odd sense of humor"
>
> "You're hired!" said the Jews
> And McVay jumped for joy
> And the chosen ones knew
> He'd be a good little goy
>
> Now he runs Nizkor
> Bashing Nazis all day
> But not saying a word
> When asked if he's gay
>




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Thanks Anon,

  If you have anymore articles like this please send them to us.

We are constructing a web site special to Ken McVay.


--
Don Ellis

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"Anonymous remailer"  wrote in message
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> Several years ago
> In Vancouver B.C.
> The Jews sought a man
> Who was very P.C.
>
> One who would bootlick
> Grovel and pander
> And strongly attack
> Any anti-Jew slander
>
> Many folks applied
> Only one met the test
> A wimpy little guy
> Known to many as a pest
>
> This strange little man said
> "Call me Ken McVay"
> Some of the Jews thought
> He seemed a little gay
>
> He told all assembled
> "I'm a gas pump attendant
> But look how I'm wearing
> a Star of David pendant"
>
> "And I'm really not a fag
> That's just a silly rumor
> Started by some Nazis
> With their odd sense of humor"
>
> "You're hired!" said the Jews
> And McVay jumped for joy
> And the chosen ones knew
> He'd be a good little goy
>
> Now he runs Nizkor
> Bashing Nazis all day
> But not saying a word
> When asked if he's gay
>




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"Doc Tavish"  wrote in message
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>
> On  4-Feb-2000, Richard Phillips  wrote:
>
> > Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <3898FACC.14296113@mediaone.net>, Admitted Liar and Village
> > > Idiot Richard Philllips  wrote:
> > >
> > > >Jeffrey G. Brown wrote:
> > >
> > > > [...deletia...]
> > >
> > > >> Your "recollection" has been shown to be shot through with more
holes than
> > > >> John Dillinger, idiot.
> > > >============================================
> > > >Phillips
> > > >
> > > >OK. Tell us one. Just one, Jeffrey.
> > >
> > > Sure, idiot. Your recollection that you "backed off" your original
demands
> > > for documentation of the Nazi gas chambers is in error. You did not
"back
> > > off" at all. You drastically expanded the list -- and then lied about
> > > having done so.
> >
> > =================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > I challenged you to name one --only one-- original constructive thought
> > you had ever contributed to tthis NG. And what did we get?  Just another
> > shrieking diatribe and one we have already heard fifty times before. Did
> > you ever think of trying to say something original. Be like me. Think of
> > how I am forever coming up with novel ways of insulting you.
> >
> > ==========================================================
> > >
> > > > [...deletia...]
> > >
> > > >Jeffrey, maybe you have forgotten the time that I posted the
dictionary
> > > >definition of the word "lie," challenged you to show how my
statements
> > > >met the conditions of that definition, only to be told that I could
> > > >shove my conditions "where the sun doesn't shine."
> > >
> > > Haven't forgotten it at all, idiot.
> > >
> > > Tell me -- how does this change the fact that you are a liar?
> >
> > ==========================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > It depends on who we are to believe. Jeffrey insists tthat I'm a liar.
> > The dictionary says I'm not. Take your choice.
> >
> > =============================================================
> > >
> > > > [...deletia...]
> > >
> > > >Vampires don't shit...
> > >
> > > Ah -- more facts from the "folk literature", idiot?
> >
> > ===================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > Then it is your position that vampires DO shit?
> >
> > ==========================================================
> > >
> > > > [...deletia...]
> > >
> > > >Well, knowing you were lying...
> > >
> > > Once again:
> > >
> > > Repeating one of your old fact-free accusations doesn't constitute
> > > knowledge of much of anything, idiot.
> > >
> > > You "know" nothing of the sort, idiot. You're making a claim for which
you
> > > have no supporting facts.
> > >
> > > > [...deletia...]
> > >
> > > >Then, to further support your position came the plaintive cry: "You
> > > >thweatened me."
> > >
> > > False. That's another one of your bogus quotes. I never said that,
Liar.
> >
==========================================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > Really now. Next thing you'll probably do is stand there and deny ever
> > having accused me of stealing your 'watchet wenches.'
> >
> > =====================================================================
> > >
> > > > [...deletia...]
> > >
> > > >The Elmer Fudd intonation was just for effect.
> > >
> > > Nope. It was a lie. Deal with it, idiot: you're a pathological liar.
> > >
> > > > [...deletia...]
> > >
> > > >But if you deny that you refused, then you're a liar.
> > >
> > > False.
> > >
> > > I never refused.
> > >
> > > Go ahead, idiot. Show us a post in which I refused to meet your
demands.
> > =============================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > Hang yourself higher, little man. I'm delighting in every minute.
> >
> > =========================================================
> > >
> > > > [...deletia...]
> > >
> > > >You're an alienated kike.
> > >
> > > False. I'm a fallen-away Methodist.
> > ===================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > No possible way. You have the Kike mindset, you have Kike instincts, you
> > have Kike reflexes. Everything about you screams Kike. You see, Jeffrey,
> > I know those people because I grew up amongst them. Can't fool Liar
> > Phillips.
> >
> > ======================================================================
> > >
> > > > [...deletia...]
> > >
> > > >I'm a patriotic one. America is my country.
> > >
> > > False. America is the country you want to destroy, to be replaced by a
> > > Nazi dictatorship.
> >
> > ==========================================================
> > Phillips
> >
> > If that is what it takes to ethnically cleanse the Greaseballs, if that
> > is what it takes to make America once more a white man's country, if
> > that is what it takes to clean out that male whorehouse that calls
> > itself Congress, if that is what it takes to abolish commercial
> > television, if that is what it takes to make all political correctness
> > go the way of the Prohibition Amendment, if that is what it takes to
> > crush the present Jewish stranglehold on public communications, if that
> > is what it takes to put an end to the mental disease of Feminism, if
> > that is what it takes to shitcan the entire State Department, if that is
> > what it takes to make advocacy of Free Trade a hanging offence ... if a
> > Nazi-style dictatorship is what is needed to bring about these results,
> > then let us have a Nazi-style dictatorship.
> >
> > ==================================================================
> >
> >
> > > You're no patriot at all, idiot. Just a lying bigot who can't deal
with
> > > the world as it is, and so wants it to change to meet his own
infantile
> > > demands.
> > >
> > > JGB
> >
> > Liar Phillips: Tell us, Jeffrey. How do you feel about Red China?
> > Gibbering Jeffrey: Oh, I think it would be just lovely with a pink
> > tablecloth.
> >
> > ====================================================
>
> Well I guess this means that ol' Jeffrey G. Brown wants to gobble
Richard's cock!
>

JEFFERY DOESN'T CARE WHO'S COCK IT IS, AS LONG AS IT'S IN HIS MOUTH HE IS A
HAPPY FAG.




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KEN, WHO DID YOU MEET WITH IN THAT FAG BAR? WAS IT JEFFERY?




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WHY DID YOU MAKE A HASTY FILGHT FROM AMERICA...WHO ARE YOU RUNNING FROM?




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 I'M WORKING ON SOME HOLOCAUST SHIT.

PLEASE SEND MONEY......

I'M PUMPING GAS FOR 300 BUCKS A WEEK AND I HATE THIS JOB

PLEASE SEND MONEY......

THE DRINKS AT THE FAG BAR ARE EXPENSIVE

PLEASE SEND MONEY......

DAMN, I THINK I HAVE AIDS

PLEASE SEND MONEY




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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Asshole.
>
> --
DICK STALKER




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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> False. It'll prove that there are X posts archived under my name at
> Deja.com. But since you've failed to take into account the year-long
> sporgery attack on this and other newsgroups, it proves nothing about the
> number of posts I personally made.
>
> JGB


BOO HOO...GO SUCK YOUR MOMMA'S TITS




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"Confederate Mike"  wrote in message
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> prove it. List every single forgery. Then I will modify the count.
>
>
> Mike
>

HEY MIKE, IGNORE THE BIG FUCKING CRY BABY




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SEND MONEY....







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"dudalb"  wrote in message
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> BTW you guys lost....just thought you might like to know....And if you
keep
> up your obnoxious bigoted posts we Damnyankees might have to go down there
> again like we did with General Sherman.....
>
>
YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER. ANYONE WHO MIGHT HAVE FOUGHT IN THE CIVIL WAR IS
FUCKING DEAD YOU DUMBASS YANKEE FAGGOT. YOU HOLOHOAX COCKSUCKER ARE STILL
LIVING IN THE PAST. UPGRADE...UPDATE...OR JUST PLAIN FUCKING DIE.




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I ran across this....Just shows how McVay will stab his own people in
the back just to make a name for himself. What a pity.

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Subject: Ken McVay speaks for only *some* of us
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I'm Cecelia and I actually did post this to soc.culture.jewish awhile
back. And Ken, it is spelled "Cecelia" not "Cecilia." You and I go
back to 1991, before you founded Nizkor, Ken. You should know how to
properly spell my name. And I am part of the history of Nizkor, Ken,
yet you pretend to have just barely heard of me.

I sent you in materials and you used them, but did not credit me as
the source. These concerned much material on Willis Carto and some key
information on Fred Leuchter's patents, engineering ethics, chemistry
(to refute Fred Leuchter's claims) etc.

In fact, you ignored my material on Carto for many e-mails until one
day, one of them clicked something in you. *then* you posted a request
to your  mailing list (to which I was one of
the original subscribers) which went defunct long before the founding
of Nizkor asking for info on Willis Carto. Then after a while longer,
due in significant part, to the info *I* sent you on Carto, you then
made him a very big project of yours, the topic of a whole long FAQ
even.

The stuff on Leuchter's patents also received no ack from you. Yet,
one day long past, I was browsing the Jerusalem1 server in Israel and
noticed there was a section on Revisionism there. It was mainly or
perhaps solely a mirror of your pre-Nizkor anti-Revisionist website. I
forget what you called it. THERE, under a subdirectory on Leuchter,
was verbatim my e-mail to you on Leuchter's patents. But the header
was stripped off. See, Ken, you saw value in this information, but you
did not see value in me as the source. It was only after I complained
to your webmaster, Jamie McCarthy, that you revised that page to
include the original headers of the msg. For other e-mail msgs I saw
on the Jerusalem1 mirror such as ones from Danny Keren, you left the
headers intact. But mine? Oh well.

And the chemistry and physics material I sent you to refute Leuchter's
claims, you totally ignored, so I gave up sending you additional
material. Yet, later, the same information appeared in your site with
a Brian Harmon being given great accolades by you for providing it to
you. Brian did indeed provide the info to you at a later date than I
did, but it was the same info I had offered to you. From Brian, it was
not only worth your repeating, but you also saw fit to give im credit.
Yes, his was in more detail, but I think when he sent in the initial
stuff, you encouraged him to send in more, so he did. I was not so
fortunate to get encouraged.

Oh, and medical information I sent you to refute specific claims of
deniers you also ignored.

One time, I and Jamie McCarthy sent you material together (the I
obtained alone). This was concerning what "Murungu" means in Shona (a
southern African Bantu language - an Internet National Socialist used
the nickname of "Murungu" so that was why I offered to Jamie an
explanation of what this word means). *This* you put on your Nizkor
site. But the fact that Jamie was the one I approached with the info
instead of you made a difference.

Jamie eventually resigned from Nizkor. It was soon after that that
soc.culture.jewish.holocaust went dead. Jamie was doing the technical
work for you while you over-moderated the content. Without Jamie's
technical help, you could no longer run soc.culture.jewish.holocaust,
so you let it lie fallow rather than let some other moderator take
over to keep it active.

Recently, soc.culture.jewish.holocaust came back to life. And guess
what. It is back under the care of one or more of the original
founders -- that is, the people who ran it out of a University of
North Carolina server before they no longer had time to devote to it
(and when you then took it over).

Why, Ken, do you treat me like such dirt? I think it had a lot to do
with the fact that I want to empower and enable people while you want
to dominate and control. And the fact my learning style is to get
varied info from a variety of sources rather than just mindlessly
learn from just one (and one on your exact wavelenght) has also a lot
to do with it. And the fact that I do not want to bit the head off of
every Revisionist I meet or see has much to do with it too.

My approach is far different than yours. I seek to understand and
elucidate while you seek to punish and reek revenge. I seek to prevent
future Revisionism before it starts by elucidating *why* people become
Revs in the first place and providing viable alternatives to satisfy
the same needs such people seek and find in Revisionism. You, by
contrast, seek to hunt them down, "expose" them, discredit them and
equate each and every one of them with hard-core Jew-haters. I seek to
humanize whilst you seek to dehumanize them.

Oh, and the fact that I know what Revisionism is (and is *not*) from
the *inside out* instead of from the outside letting my prejudices
dictate to me what is inside --- that has a lot to do with it too.

I was potentially a very valuable resource to you, Ken. But you did
not want elucidation and alternatives and causes of Rev that do not
fit your preconceived notions.

(According to you, each and every person who becomes a Rev does so out
of evil motives, specifically, Jew-hating motives -- but I posited
motives like trying to find relief from a Shoah that is too hard to
bear and further posited that Germans both American-born and
European-born are at much greater risk to become Rev's due to a need
to seek shelter from the guilt -- guilt which is big enought as it is,
but gets amplified further by anti-German bigots. THIS vital info YOU
did not want to HEAR.)

If I had offered to name you names of all the in-the-closet Revs I
knew and to give you private personal information on the
publicly-Revisionist people I know (I mean information they would want
kept private), maybe then you would have seen me as a valuable
resource, Ken. But this too is not my style. I would relate other
Revisionist's experiences to you but with all identifying information
expunged. You did not like that Ken. Names, addresses, employers you
would have wanted. Traumatic anti-German childhood and young adult
experiences you did not want.

Along the same lines, you once put out a call for any information
anybody knows about Arthur Butz (a Revisionist who is also an
engineering prof). I offered you lots of info about what he has done
engineering-wise and professor-wise. I also has publicly-available
family background info to submit once I saw how you responded to the
engineering and professor info. But you just e-mailed me back with a
rude letter saying you are not interested in the engineering aspects
of Butz. See, Ken, you only wanted DIRT on Butz. You did not want
NORMAL information that is essential for a full and complete
understanding of Arthur Robert Butz.

Interestingly enough, I later read Deborah Lipstadt's chapter on Butz
in her _Denying the Holocaust_. Some of it was *wrong.* The correct
info was in the stuff I sent you and you pooh-poohed and in the stuff
I was waiting to send you, but did not. Seems like Lipstadt would have
been interested in seeing the stuff *before* her book went to press --
it would have saved her errors.

Have you been in contact with Lipstadt as she as still working on
_Denying the Holocaust_, Ken? See now how you could have received all
the info I had on Butz (not just the dirt) and then alerted Lipstadt
about it. Lipstadt could have then contacted me (that is, if you would
have been decent enough to credit me as the source) and seen what I
had for herself and then go and review the direct sources from whence
I got the info in the first place. These were not insider Revisionist
sources. These were publicly available sources. She could then have
written the final draft of _Denying_ to reflect this all. Now, she has
gone on record as making some basic errors on basic biographical info
on not only Butz, but also on App (to whom she also devotes a whole
chapter).

I then e-mailed you for advice on how I correct these errors without
making Deborah Lipstadt sound foolish. You pooh-poohed the notion that
I could be right and Lipstadt be wrong. To bad, Ken.

Actually I was wrong to have ever tried to seek such advice from you
in the first place. I already knew what you were like, but at the
time, you were for all practical purposes, all I had.

So, you unilaterally decided that my massive, but "normal" information
on Butz was not worth knowing and not worth passing on to scholars
researching Holocaust denial. But, I suppose, in addtion to thinking
you speak for each and every participant of  (such as by posting "Knoll
speaks for none of us" with the "us" meaning all the participants of
the said NGs), you think can speak for Lipstadt and also but make her
decisions for her. Too bad.

So I had little value to you, Ken. Too bad. What I know, in the right
hands, is invaluable for the very same "combat the Holocaust deniers"
work you so sincerely and diligently devote yourself to. But you
methodology is so different from mine that I even had to put your
phrase "combat the Holocaust deniers" in quote marks because it is so
different from what I feel when I think of reducing the phenonomon of
Holocaust denial. I do not want to "combat" Holocaust deniers who are
sincere disbelievers of the Shoah. I just want to provide viable
alternatives and to combat the *causes* of people seeking solace or an
outlet in Revisionism.

Thanks to people like you, Ken, there is at this time a dire poverty
of viable alternatives to Revisionism. Thanks to you and your ilk,
people like me and Werner Knoll are faced with two extremes -- yours
(which actually deserves the label "Holocaust Lobby") and radical
Revisionism's.

At the very same time you and your ilk seek to suppress the truth
about why we turn to Rev, some of those who run radical Revisionism
(Carto, Mark Weber, Hans Schmidt) understand *very well* the needs of
people like me, Werner Knoll, hundreds of thousands of American and
Canadian Germans to include Ernst Zu"ndel. And they meet our needs and
lure us into Revisionism (Zu"ndel was so lured in Toronto years ago)
with these met needs. Once there, an effort is on to lure us into
hard-core Jew-hating circles (they so lured Zu"ndel).

With me, all the further they got me was Revisionism. The "Holocaust
Lobby" then did much to drive me towards hard-core Nazism. It is only
to my credit I did not go. Don't say if I resisted anybody could. I am
made of some pretty tough stuff. If most people, including Ken, were
subjected to what "the Holocaust Lobby" subjected me to since 1990
when I first "came out," they would be neo-Nazis. Like I said, this
included Ken. I will not say all the things they put me through here.
Maybe I will publicly say it another time or in another venue and
maybe I will not.

With Werner, I cannot tell from just the few posts I read if he had
been lured as far as actually into Revisionism or not. But I can see
that he is "at risk." But Ken, with your posts, you are increasing the
risk. "At risk" does not mean "evil" either, Ken. Do not blame the
victims. We too are victims and survivors of the Shoah.

And I myself am also a victim from a Jewish point of view, Ken. But
you were so busy trashing me the ways the Germans part of my heritage
made me 'at risk' that you never even let me tell you I am also Jewish
and very much like a Hidden Child first generation Jewish Shoah
survivor and very much like a Second Generation Jewish Shoah survivor.
It is your own prejudice which did not let you see THESE traits in me,
Ken. That plus the fact you are a Goy. The JEWISH rage in me never
spoken about a huge portion of my people cut off, my JEWISH mourning,
you never heard. Had I gotten a different e-mail account and showed
you the Jewish rage and mourning within me, you would have liked that
other persona, huh, Ken.

But stuff like this (stated before the above paragraph) Ken, you do
not want to hear because according to your preconceived notions, we
START OUT AS hard-core Jew-haters and then pretend to be like normal
people to assimilate out and infiltrate normal society to inject our
poison into it with our "tricks of the deniers." This is actually true
for some people who *claim* to be Revisionists such as Willis Carto.
But for many of us, the exact percentage I do not know due to lack of
formal academic studies I would like to see done, the truth is just
the opposite of what you presuppose.

Lots of people start off with a pre-conceived notion, Ken, including
myself. But real scholars and real researchers and real advocates do
not selectively cleave to or selectively ignore new information that
confirms or denies respectively our preconceived notions and initial
hypotheses. (If you are such a great and wonderful real researcher and
educator of the Shoah, Ken, then how come you did not last very long
on the academic holocaus mailing list on a server at the University of
Illinois at Chicago (UIC), where many real Shoah scholars and many
real Shoah survivors participated? (The list is now called 
and is on a different server.) Either you got unsubscribed by the
owners or you unsubscribed yourself in disgust that that real Shoah
scholarship forum did not gobble up your polemics.

But you refuse to see many of the critical points I make in this post.
You have seen most of them in the 1991 to 1997 timespan (with a gap)
many times, so you have had opportunity to consider them. And due to
your refusal, you actually drive more people into Revisionism or
deeper into Revisionism or into hard-core Jew-hatred with the very
efforts you expend to "combat the Holocast deniers/neo-Nazis."

Such is a travesty. But such is also reality. People like you are part
of the real world we all have to deal with.

Cecelia Plechinger









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"dudalb"  wrote in message
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> Doug Devers goes into my Nazi Lovers file...
>
>

HEY YOU DUMB FUCK....WORLD WAR 2 IS OVER....NAZI'S DEFEATED.


GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS




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"dudalb"  wrote in message
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> Some troll called Holohoax II wrote:
> YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER. ANYONE WHO MIGHT HAVE FOUGHT IN THE CIVIL WAR IS
> FUCKING DEAD YOU DUMBASS YANKEE FAGGOT. YOU HOLOHOAX COCKSUCKER ARE STILL
> LIVING IN THE PAST. UPGRADE...UPDATE...OR JUST PLAIN FUCKING DIE.
>
> Guess he does not understand the concept of humor and sarcasm very well,
> does he?

NO I DON'T...


> As for living in the past, tell some of the Neo Confederates to upgrade up
> deat or just plain die....
>
>
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS NEO CONFEDERATES

YOU'RE A GODDAMN IDIOT




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From: "HOLOHOAX II" 
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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> Your failure to provide any evidence to support your assertions, and
> your attempt to divert attention from that failure, are noted.
>
> JGB
>
>

TAKE YOUR NOTE AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR FAGGOT CHILD MOLESTING ASSHOLE




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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article <46cn9sos3mpur82o72jl303m0vaos77g5j@4ax.com>, Confederate Mike
>  wrote:
>
> >Sara Schwartz, have you considered marrying Jeffrey G. Brown?
> >Seriously, both of you never post anything original, just name call.
> >Or does McVay have you under stricts order not to post anything that
> >he can't take credit for?
> >
> >Mike
> >
>
> 1. My name is not Sara Schwartz.

REALLY? THEN WHY DID YOU REPLY TO HIS QUESTION?



> 2. Where's that proof that my husband "walked out on me"?


DID HE CATCH YOU SCREWING AROUND?


> I didn't think so....
>
> Sara
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




From comments@hatewatch.com Sat Feb  5 01:47:16 EST 2000
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From: "HOLOHOAX II" 
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"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> Do you think pussy smells like fish. Well, I've licked and chewed some
> good hairy pussy and when its clean Tavish 1 and 2 it doesn't smell like
> smelly fish. I don't think either of you are in a position to know Ms.
> Salzman's hygiene or sex life. So why do you make references to it?
>
> Michael Ragland
>

ONLY A STUPID NASTY MOTHER FUCKER LIKE YOU WOULD ADMIT TO SHIT LIKE THIS. I
DON'T CARE IF YOU WASHED IT WITH AJAX, LICKING AND CHEWING ON A HAIRY PUSSY
IS GODDAMN NASTY. I BET YOU SUCK AND CHEW ON DICKS TOO, YOU PERVERTED
COCKSUCKER.




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From: "HOLOHOAX II" 
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I HATE THE SMELL OF GASOLINE....

SEND MONEY




From comments@hatewatch.com Sat Feb  5 06:18:51 EST 2000
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Please follow up with proof.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sat Feb  5 06:18:52 EST 2000
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"Doc Tavish"  wrote in message
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>
> On  5-Feb-2000, "Ronald C. Schoedel, III" 
wrote:
>
> > He has a warrant out for his arrest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Country Ron
>
> Ron if you can post documented proof of this warrant you just may go down
> as a real hero in USENET. I am really hoping that you shoot back a
veritable
> plethora of facts. There is nothing better than thinking this is all true!
I wouldn't
> care if the warrant was no longer good because of the Carter Amnsety for
draft
> dodgers. It would prove that the vermin does in fact have a criminal
record and
> this would go a long distance in shutting down his Nizkor scam.


IT WOULD HELP IF WE KNEW A FEW THINGS:

IS KENNETH MCVAY HIS REAL NAME?

WHAT IS HIS DATE OF BIRTH?

WHAT WAS HIS SS#




> In regards to your subject title: "The reason McVay does not enter the US"
I have
> noticed that whenever Nizkor's San Antonio, Texas operation is to be
visited I
> never saw Ken McVay as being the one that visited in the USENET postings.
>
> Come through for us Ron!
>
> Doc Tavish




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"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> If you look at Mr. Mcvay's picture he is not a Nordic type. He has
> stated he is an "admitted human".  What that means is despite the
> genetic variation among the human family we are all "human". As much as
> I want to puke saying this that even applies to the Nazis.


I AGREE, MCVAY LOOKS MORE LIKE A FAG.


> It clearly states on Nizkor's website, which I'm sure Ellis and others
> have read, that Mr. McVay has four children and is a grandfather to
> eight.

THIS DOESN'T PROVE A FUCKING THING.


>
> Michael Ragland
>




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb  6 02:12:57 EST 2000
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BACK IT UP WITH SOME PROOF




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"David E Michael"  wrote in message
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> Dear Mr Morris
>
> On 4 January you accused me of 'lying' about Mr Scot Murphy, a.k.a.
> DeppityBob or Buck Turgidson. When I asked you to explain your
> allegation you told me to go and 'fuck' myself.

MORRIS LIKES FUCKING HIMSELF UP THE ASS AND HE BELIEVES EVERYONE SHOULD DO
THE SAME


Now that you have had
> time to sober up, I wonder if you would be kind enough either to
> apologize or to substantiate your allegation.


MORRIS WILL ONLY ANSWER WITH LIES


> To recapitulate, I made two substantive points about Mr Murphy. I
> demonstrated each point with citations of Usenet posts.
>
> The first point that I made about Mr Murphy was that he is a liar.


WHAT ELSE IS NEW?


He
> claimed that he did not post to pornographic newsgroups but merely
> lurked in them. Here is he claiming it:


LURKING MEANS HE IS CHOKING HIS CHICKEN...A FUCKING PERVERT


> 
> Subject: Re: He's right!
> From: deppitybob@aol.com.org.net (DeppityBob)
> Date: Sat, Nov 21, 1998 4:08 AM
> Message-id: <19981120230852.26384.00000888@ng01.aol.com>
>
> Well, thank goodness the Revisionists are still committed to keeping
> things at
> a civil level of discourse...
> >
> >So when people find things elsewhere, it is  okay to post them here?
> >Okay Scat, here's a bit about you, from an excellent knot-C source:
> >"(see Dejanews author profile
> >using this particular spelling variation [depttybob@*] to see why).
> >Here are some of the more "interesting" groups on his list:
> >
> [list edited down for decency's sake]
> >
> >Tells us a lot about you - no?
>
> You tell me! The thing here is, I *did* a DejaNews search under
> "depttybob@aol.com" for the entirety of time that DejaNews covers, and
> came up
> with *nothing.* So whatever you used to dig this info up, DejaNews was
> certainy
> not it.
>
> So let me guess what you are expecting my response to be. Horror?
> Outrage?
> Denial? Spitting blood? No, none of those. Let me say, instead,
> congratulations: you deserve them for having dredged up a very difficult
>
> time
> in my life. (Yes, these are newsgroups I lurked through--though never
> contributed to.) I suppose you're expecting some kind of deflection, a
> dodge,
> maybe, or a dimunition. None of those, either. In fact, let me flesh
> that out
> for you a little more. (Not that you care, or that I am angling for any
> sort of
> compassion from you: you just need to see that this sort of tawdriness
> does NOT
> deter me.)
>
> 
>
> 
>
> See what he says? '(Yes, these are newsgroups I lurked through--though
> never
> contributed to.)' That's plain enough.
>
> But he did contribute to them.
>
> A Deja.com search produced the following results:
>
> 
> Posting History:  depttybob@aol.com
>                    (DepttyBob)
>                                                                    Help
> | Feedback
>
>
>
>                    There are 592 unique messages by
>                    depttybob@aol.com (DepttyBob)
>                    (numbers may be slightly skewed by cross-postings)
>                                                             Get all 592
> messages
>
>
>                            Number of Messages
>                                                 Forum
>                                 240
>                                                 alt.movies.kubrick
>                                 164
>                                                 alt.movies.monster
>                                 51
>                                                 alt.movies.spielberg
>                                 39
>                                                 alt.sex.fetish.hair
>                                 35
>                                                 alt.horror
>                                 20
>                                                 alt.games.descent
>                                  7
>                                                 alt.books.stephen-king
>                                  5
>                                                 alt.sex.necrophilia
>                                  4
>                                                 alt.fan.devo
>                                  4
>                                                 alt.sex.asphyx
>                                  3
>                                                 alt.cult-movies
>                                  3
>
> alt.sex.fetish.wet-and-messy
>                                  2
>                                                 alt.hemp
>                                  2
>                                                 alt.sex.fetish.scat
>                                  1
>                                                 alt.config
>                                  1
>                                                 alt.org.earth-first
>                                  1
>                                                 alt.sex.enemas
>                                  1
>                                                 alt.sex.menstruation
>
> 
>
> You suggested earlier that he didn't remember posting to all these
> groups. But as I pointed out, he contributed 39 posts to
> alt.sex.fetish.hair. He
> contributed 5 to alt.sex.necrophilia. He contributed 4 to
> alt.sex.aspyhx.
> And 3 to alt.sex.fetish.wet-and-messy. And 2 to alt.sex.fetish.scat. And
>
> one to alt.sex.enemas and alt.sex.menstruation. It's rather stretching
> the imagination to suggest that he forgot about such prolific activity.
>
> The second point that I made about Mr Murphy was that he is a hypocrite.
>
> Here is his position on posting people's private details gleaned from
> the Internet BEFORE his own details were exposed:
>
> 
> From: deppitybob@aol.com.org.net (DeppityBob)
> Subject: Re: He's right!
> Date: 20 Nov 1998 00:00:00 GMT
> Message-ID: <19981120060652.10131.00000465@ng39.aol.com>
> References: 
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> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
>
> >
> >In article <3654DA2A.27257F6A@cableinet.co.uk>, David.M@cableinet.co.uk
>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Might interest you to know, Mr G, that a year or so ago I parted with
> $80
> >to a
> >>private detective based in Texas. His brief was just to run some
> computer
> >>searches on an individual I was curious about. He got back to me, I
> believe,
> >>the next day. He gave me an address, telephone numbers, name of
> parents
> >and
> >>sister (plus their addresses and telephone numbers), social security
> number,
> >>credit details, street addresses, details of purchase of house
> (including
> >>price paid), details of ownership of house . . . I didn't do anything
> with
> >the
> >>information other than look at it and marvel at human nature. But I
> was
> >quite
> >>astonished at how easily and cheaply that sort of thing can be
> obtained.
>
> But Curdles, your analogy here is faulty. First, Mr. Morris didn't pay
> any
> money to a third party to get the information. Second, was all that info
>
> made
> public, in a public forum, by the targeted person himself? Something
> tells me
> no. But YOU, MogenDavid, were stupid enough to post information about
> you where
> the entire world could see it and then posted under your original
> account so it
> could be looked up. BFD between being David Michaels from Basildon,
> Essex, UK
> (or, for that matter, Scot Murphy from Chicago, IL, USA) and being an
> entire
> portfolio of information dug up for $80 by an obsessive British stalker.
>
> Dep
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
>                         --David Mamet
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
>
> His view is perfectly clear. It's OK to post material from the Internet
> if money is not paid for it. But see how spectacularly this view changes
>
> once his own details were dredged up by Mr McClelland:
>
> 
> From: deppitybob@aol.com.org.net (DeppityBob)
> Subject: Re: He's right!
> Date: 28 Nov 1998 00:00:00 GMT
> Message-ID: <19981128043002.06765.00001433@ng44.aol.com>
> References: <19981127214644.10560.00001971@ng-ch1.aol.com>
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
>
> ote:
>
> >>>It
> >>>> >had nothing to do with ganging up on Curdles in some sort of
> effort to
> >>drive
> >>>> >him off the Net; we would have been happy had he simply left Chuck
>
> alone.
> >>But
> >>>> >he couldn't, he didn't, and he reaped his own foul harvest.
> >>>
> >>>B  I  N  G  O  !
> >
> >As did Dep.<<
> >
> >Exactly how do you figure this? What, exactly, did I do that justified
> you
> >digging into irrelevancies of my past for the sole apparent purpose of
> >embarrassing me?
>
> Not even that Dep. You reaped the harvest of your delight in, and
> support of, Dejanews snooping. That's all. Now, do you still think it
> is alright to drege up posts from other groups and use them against
> *any* posters here? A simple yes or no would suffice.<<
>
>
> I have already answered that question at length. (And please, don't
> insult
> anyone's intelligence, especially your own, by feigning ignorance.) Now,
>
> please
> do me the courtesy of answering mine: what did I *do* (NOT "what
> attitudes did
> I hold") that justified your digging into the irrelevancies of my past
> in some
> apparently skewed attempt to discredit me?
>
> Dep
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Always tell the truth. It's the easiest thing to remember."
>                         --David Mamet
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> 
>
> So he takes great delight when material about others is dredged up from
> the Internet, yet he squeals like a stuck pig when someone does it to
> him! That makes him a hypocrite.
>
> Question one. Now, Mr Morris, do you agree with me that Mr Murphy is a
> liar and a hypocrite? Do you still maintain that I am lying about him?
> If you do maintain that I am lying about him are you going to produce
> any evidence?
>
> Question two. Do you condemn unreservedly the lies of Mr Murphy? Or do
> you take William Daffer's view that (and I quote his post of 5 February
> 2000) 'total honesty isn't required'?
>
> I will repeat these points from time to time until we get a clear and
> unambiguous answer from Mr Morris.
>
> David
>
> On 5 February 2000 William Daffer wrote: 'total honesty is not
> required'.
>
>
>
>




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"Buck Turgidson"  wrote in message
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>
> -- --Dep
>
> "Always tell the truth. It's the    §  "Truth is just...truth. You can't
>   easiest thing to remember."      §  have opinions about truth."
>                    --David Mamet                          --Peter
Schickele
>
> Like short-haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
> http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html
>

CRY BABY




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YOU'RE AN IDIOT


"dudalb"  wrote in message
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> No wonder the WPR's hate McVey so much. In his newsgroups fights he
> domonstrates the truth of a  unofficial US Marine Motto:
> "Mess with the best, Dead with the Rest".
>
>
>




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CHICKEN SHIT




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ARE YOU STILL "LURKING" IN ALT.I LIKE TO FUCK BOYS?



"Buck Turgidson"  wrote in message
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> Talking to yourself again, Don?
>
>
>
> -- --Dep
>
> "Always tell the truth. It's the    §  "Truth is just...truth. You can't
>   easiest thing to remember."      §  have opinions about truth."
>                    --David Mamet                          --Peter
Schickele
>
> Like short-haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
> http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html
>




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SARA MAYBE YOU CAN TALK RAGLAND INTO EATING YOUR PUSSY



"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article <14900-389CA40C-43@storefull-623.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
> Michael872@webtv.net (Michael Ragland) wrote:
>
> >Tavish 1:
> >
> >You never did answer why you makes references to Ms. Salzman's sex life
> >since you're in no position to.
>
>
> It's quite obvious, really. Poor Doc Tavish is completely obsessed with
> ANYONE'S sex life, since he has none himself.
>
> Therefore, he needs to imagine other people screwing their pets, since his
> own pets wouldn't get within two miles of him.
>
> Bellville, Texas, where the sheep are nervous.
>
> Sara
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




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DO YOU EAT DOG PUSSY TOO?



"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> Tavish 2:
>
> You've never had oral sex with a woman? Have you heard of "cunnilingus"?
> Never done that?
>




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A MAN THAT WOULD EAT A PUSSY WOULD SURELY SUCK A DICK


"John Morris"  wrote in message
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>  wrote:
>
> >Michael Ragland wrote:
>
> >> Tavish 2:
>
> >> You've never had oral sex with a woman? Have you heard of
> >> "cunnilingus"? Never done that?
>
> >You're one sick man, Ragland.
>
> But it is not sick for Scott Bradbury to ceaselessly assert that
> others are cocksuckers.  Is that your story?
>
> - --
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> >
> Or to imply that some of us have sex with our pets? Do you condemn that as
> well, Dr. Michael? I haven't seen you criticize Doc's accusations about
> me...
>
> Sara
>

I DO CONDEMN FUCKING FREAKS WHO MOLEST ANIMALS.




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"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> Dr. Michael is one of the slimiest revisionist posters on a.r. I think
> he is the worst (don't pat yourself on the back Dr. Michael). Unlike the
> revisionist posters there's a quality about Dr. Michael that indicates
> he is more congenial, even when he is being a flaming prick, than others
> revisionist posters. Although by no means an intellectual heavyweight he
> is nevertheless brighter than many of the other revisionist posters. It
> is this cogeniality and relative intelligence compared to other
> revisionist posters coupled with the absolute savage hatred and
> morbidness of this man which makes him especially unappetizing.
>
> Of course, Dr. Michael applies a double standard. He'll call me a
> pervert for acknowledging I engage in a normal sexual activity


EATING PUSSY IS NOT NORMAL


but he
> won't denounce Tavish 1 for constantly making references to Ms. Salzmann
> having sex with dogs or Tavish 2 throwing out one liners about her
> smelling like fish an being a whore. Tavish 2, even when you use other
> people's names the email address clearly indicates its origin. You can't
> possibly be that daft not to know that. So why don't you admit and
> explain why you are posting these attacks on Ms. Salzmann or quit doing
> it. Oh, I know its because she is a Jewess. That makes her fair game and
> open to anything, right? If so, why is that?


IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ME THEN THIS IS NOT TRUE, I AM JEWISH AS WELL



> Finally, although there are English people who are decent I must say I
> have no great affection for the Brits. They are in [general] a cold
> pompous breed. Some of the weirdest and most perverted things have come
> out of England.


LOOK WHO'S CALLING OTHER PPL  PERVERTS


Dr. Michael you're country has a particular penchant for
> spanking. Much of the porngraphic spanking media comes from Great
> Britain. See the deep red welts on the lasses buttocks and the whips and
> paddles.
>
> As for America it retains a strong affinity with the Motherland. When I
> look at most of the world I want to puke.


LOOK IN YOUR MIRROR



> Michael Ragland
>




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NICE TRY FAG



"Kenneth McVay OBC"  wrote in message
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> In article <8101-389CE055-41@storefull-628.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
> Michael Ragland  wrote:
>
> >Dr. Michael is one of the slimiest revisionist posters on a.r. I think
>
> Oh, puhleeze, Mr. Ragland! Dr. Michael is a bit of an intellectual
> slut, but in the list of slimy deniers, he's _way_ down the list.
>
> --
> The Nizkor Project          An Electronic Holocaust Education Resource
> RealVideo Filmclips     http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/bergen-belsen
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OK


"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> You know, since this thread has absolutely nothing to do with me anymore,
> I'd realy prefer if you'd either let it die or rename it.
>
> :)
> The Real Sara Salzman
>
>
>
> In article <389CD9D5.4A8E8C32@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
>  wrote:
>
> >Philip Mathews wrote:
> >
> >> In >Message-id: <389CAE36.EC3C343B@btinternet.com>
> >>
> >> > David E Michael david.e.michael@btinternet.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >Michael Ragland wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Tavish 2:
> >> >>
> >> >> You've never had oral sex with a woman? Have you heard of
"cunnilingus"?
> >> >> Never done that?
> >> >
> >> >You're one sick man, Ragland.
> >>
> >> LOL!
> >>
> >> I guess I could have guessed.
> >>
> >> Philip Mathews
> >>
> >> "Mankind have a great aversion to intellectual labor; but even
supposing
> >> knowledge to be easily attainable, more people would be content to be
> ignorant
> >> than would take even a little trouble to acquire it."      Samuel
Johnson
> >
> >Indeed.
> >
> >David
> >
> >
> >On 5 February 2000 William Daffer wrote: 'total honesty is not
> >required'.
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>




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ANSWER THE QUESTION BOY




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"Orac"  wrote in message
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>
> Besides, answering Tavish's lascivious rantings with more of the same
> only encourages him.
>
> --
> Orac


THE SAME COULD BE SAID ABOUT YOU.




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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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Like I said before>
> Steve
>

MOST PE0PLE  IGNORE FAGGOTS LIKE YOU




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BLAH BLAH




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BLAH BLAH




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FUCK THE STRAIGHTJACKET, GIVE HIM THE GAS


"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> dr. michael, my post mentioned waldheim and i do find it interesting
> that i haven't seen it acknowledged here..since you never really respond
> intelligently to any of my posts, not to mention many others.
> furthermore in the tradition of tavish 1 and tavish 2 you make
> references to my disability (bipolar) and launch personal attacks on the
> basis of it. hey dimwit, they don't use strait jackets anymore,
> certainly not in the u.s. and most other countries. they use restraints
> and only in hospitals and jails, prisons..there are 2, 4, etc. point
> restraints...usually leather. you should be put in 4 point restraints
> for an extended period of time and in a seclusion room dr. michael. i
> don't think it would ater you from being a jerk but i do think it would
> shut your hole about 'stait jackets".
>
> Michael Ragland
>




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MIKE I BELIEVE JEFFERY LIKES YOU


"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> In article , Mikey Kalvatis
>  wrote:
>
> >That does not make me a revisionist, in fact, it makes me a factist if
> >anything.
>
> False.
>
> It's already been established that you're a liar, Mikey.
>
> You're simply lying again.
>
> JGB
>
> =======================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                 jeff_brown@bigfoot.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997




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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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>
>
> David Michael, petulant child and Nazi prig.
>
> Steve
> >

STEVE WOLK, STUPID COCKSUCKING FAG.




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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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> Mike Kalvatis wrote:
> >
> > I don't believe on word that comes out of McVay's mouth. Until he
> > proves he was in the Marines, I doubt that he was.
> >
> > Mike
>
>
>
> Do you really think that Ken or anyone else gives a shit what you think?
>
> Steve

AND DO YOU THINK MIKE GIVES A FUCK WHAT YOU THINK?




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"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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>
> Don Ellis, the Grand Dragon of "The American Guardian", a radical fringe
> nutso group, pretending to be "Mike Kalvatis" 
> wrote in message news:33pp9soipj1574ubbh445ip4lbeen5hlrl@4ax.com...
> > I don't believe on word that comes out of McVay's mouth. Until he
> > proves he was in the Marines, I doubt that he was.
> >
>
> I guess it would be important to somebody who cared what a psychopath's
sock
> puppet claimed to think.
>
> I think, on balance, Don, you'll find that there are very few people who
> care what a psychopath's sock puppet claims to think.
>
>

DOES THAT INCLUDE YOUR DRUNK MOTHER




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YOUR DESIRE FOR YOUNG BOYS IS SO NOTED


"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> In article , Mikey Kalvatis
>  wrote:
>
> > [...deletia...]
>
> Your failure to provide any evidence to support your assertions, and your
> attempt to divert attention from that failure, are noted.
>
> JGB
>
> =======================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                 jeff_brown@bigfoot.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997




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I LOVE THAT POEM, SEND IT TO HALLMARK


"Anonymous remailer"  wrote in message
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> Several years ago
> In Vancouver B.C.
> The Jews sought a man
> Who was very P.C.
>
> One who would bootlick
> Grovel and pander
> And strongly attack
> Any anti-Jew slander
>
> Many folks applied
> Only one met the test
> A wimpy little guy
> Known to many as a pest
>
> This strange little man said
> "Call me Ken McVay"
> Some of the Jews thought
> He seemed a little gay
>
> He told all assembled
> "I'm a gas pump attendant
> But look how I'm wearing
> a Satr of David pendant"
>
> "And I'm really not a fag
> That's just a silly rumor
> Started by some Nazis
> With their odd sense of humor"
>
> "You're hired!" said the Jews
> And McVay jumped for joy
> And the chosen ones knew
> He'd be a good little goy
>
> Now he runs Nizkor
> Bashing Nazis all day
> But not saying a word
> When asked if he's gay
>




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"Kenneth McVay OBC"  wrote in message
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>
> Perhaps you should ask Mr. Leuchter, but I don't think his sexual
> preferences are relevant.... got my fingers burned once, long ago, for
> discussing them, and don't intend to do so again.
>
THE MARINES HATE FAGGOTS

DID YOU GET CAUGHT SUCKING A DICK MCVAY?




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OH, THE COCKSUCKER IS SORRY


"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> I posted under the thread "The Real Sara Salzmann" and I can understand
> why you'd be offended by others posting under this not related to the
> real Sara. My apology.
>
> Michael Ragland
>




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COOL POEM KEN

"Anonymous remailer"  wrote in message
news:I86YH6XZ36563.0404861111@anonymous.poster...
> Several years ago
> In Vancouver B.C.
> The Jews sought a man
> Who was very P.C.
>
> One who would bootlick
> Grovel and pander
> And strongly attack
> Any anti-Jew slander
>
> Many folks applied
> Only one met the test
> A wimpy little guy
> Known to many as a pest
>
> This strange little man said
> "Call me Ken McVay"
> Some of the Jew thought
> He seemed a little gay
>
> He told all assembled
> "I'm a gas pump attendant
> But look how I'm wearing
> A Star of David pendant"
>
> "And I'm really not a fag
> That's just a silly rumor
> Started by some Nazis
> With their odd sense of humor"
>
> "You're hired" said the Jews
> And McVay jumped for joy
> The chosen ones knew
> He'd be a good little goy
>
> Now he runs Nizkor
> Bashing Nazis all day
> But not saying a word
> When asked if he's gay
>




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GO THERE  AND LOOK FOR YOURSELF. IT'S ALL BULLSHIT

I GUESS IT BEATS THE HELL OUT OF PUMPING GAS

KEN HAS MORE TIME TO VISIT HIS FAVORITE FAG BAR


"Kenneth McVay OBC"  wrote in message
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> In article <20000206205727.26414.00001603@ng-fs1.aol.com>,
> Salv9  wrote:
> >Is there a relationship between the attempted murder of ex-Beatle George
> >Harrison and World War II historian David Irving's English law suit
against
> >American history professor Deborah Lipstadt for labeling him a "Holocaust
> >Denier," thereby destroying his career?  The controversial trail began
only
> >twelve days have Harrison's attack.
>
> Very creative.
>
> Nizkor tries to obscure public knowledge of the Irving trial by
> putting a link to Irving's pages there on every page, and by
> maintaining extensive media links and flat files....
>
> To make absolutely certain no one finds out about the trial, we also
> offer the clevery deceptive propaganda found at
>
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/i/irving.david/press/irving-vrs-lipstad
t/README.000205
>
> The truth will out, however, and no matter how much we try to protect
> him, Irving's court performance is certain to destroy whatever
> reputation he has left....
>
>
> --
> The Nizkor Project          An Electronic Holocaust Education Resource
> RealVideo Filmclips     http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/bergen-belsen
> from the liberated         http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/nordhausen
> camps of Nazi Germany      http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/mauthausen




From comments@hatewatch.com Mon Feb  7 16:08:27 EST 2000
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MOST PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE THE FALSE NUMBERS. PLUS PEOPLE ARE GETTING DAMN
TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT THE HOLOHOAX.



"Mike Kalvatis"  wrote in message
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> Melbourne's Herald Sun (January 21, 2000) set up a telephone poll with
> a number for "yes" and another number for "no" on the question, "Do
> you agree with David Irving's view of the holocaust"(where he proves
> lies about what the Jews are saying)?
>
> The result was not published..... (gee, I wonder why)
>
> The Jewish Holocaust Museum and Research Centre President, Shmuel
> Rosenkranz said he believed the the question could give holocaust
> denial legitimacy.
>
>
> Mike Kalvatis,
>
> Jews can be saved, for I was once Jewish myself and now I am a Christian
>
> http://www.jewsforjesus.org/
> http://www.amfi.org/
> http://www.chosen-people.com/
> http://www.word-library.com/bible/katz.html




From comments@hatewatch.com Mon Feb  7 16:08:28 EST 2000
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POST SOME PROOF




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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> In other words, I'm not planning to go to PA for my court date, so I'd
> better come up with a good excuse.
>
> We KNEW you'd chicken out, Bradbury. What a stupid and transparent little
> coward you are.
>
> Sara
>

THAT REALLY MEANS ALOT COMING FROM A TURD LIKE YOURSELF SARA




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TAKE CARE DOC, LET ME KNOW IF YOU NEED ANYTHING.


"Doc Tavish"  wrote in message
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> Doc Tavish to Go Back to Hospital
>
> It's true and I told you all before that I would have to go back. This
will be my
> last post for now. I hope to be back by Friday the 11th if the sawbones
let me. Please
> everybody keep the cauldron boiling with our common and most hated enemy
that I
> needn't name for we all know who has teachings that teach hatred toward
the rest of
> humanity.
>
> Doc Tavish




From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  8 21:39:59 EST 2000
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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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>
> Sorry, but Don Ellis has shit his own pants, and now he has to sit in
> it.
>
YOU FUCKING IDIOT, I HAVE NOT COMPLAINED...YOUR THE IDIOT DOING THAT




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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Well said, John.
>
> This is also why I have remained silent regarding Nazihunter and Ellis.
>
> I have not done so in the past, even for someone as vile as Scot Bradbury.
> I publicly defended Bradbury's right NOT to be harassed by this jerk.
>
> But Don Ellis deserves absolutely nothing but our contempt, and is, in the
> words of one of his nazi buddies, reaping what he has sown.
>
> Sara


I EXPECT NOTHING LESS FROM ANY OF YOU COCKSUCKERS




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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> PS. YOU may not think it's helpful, but I'm damned sick and tired of
> reading your bullying and petulant whining, and you're not getting off
> that easy this time.
>
> Sara
>


TALK ABOUT WHINING, YOU SHOULD READ SOME OF THE LETTERS SARA SENT TO SOME OF
MY PROVIDERS.




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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Then don't make public accusations until you are willing to back it up
> with facts.
>
> Talk to Mr. Morris in e-mail. Public accusations deserve FACTS, Dr.
Michael.
>
> Sara
>
>


HE IS ONLY FOLLOWING YOUR LEAD




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"Chris Tucker"  wrote in message
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> Donnie again shows his true colors.
>
> Rather than accept the fact that McVay doesn't know who nazihunter is
Donnie
> smears Ken. When Ken puts nazihunter down in public Donnie smears Ken.
>
> Donnie hasn't the balls to accept that Ken did something right.
>
>
>
I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MCVAY AND NAZIHUNTER

BOTH OF THEM CAN BURN IN HELL FOR ALL I CARE

MAYBE THEY ARE LOVERS




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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Don Ellis obviously needs to get that single neuron firing again.
>
> Mr. Ellis, THIS IS CALLED PROOF:
>
> Work Cited:
> Breitman, Richard. The Architect of Genocide: Himmler and the Final
> Solution. New York: Alfred E. Knopf, 1991
>
> ==
>
> See also: Browning, Christopher. Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion
> 101 and the Final Solution in Poland. New York: HarperCollins
> [1992], 18, for general comments about Police Battalion 45 and
> the massacre at Babi Yar, which references:
>
> Zentrale Stelle der Landesjustizverwaltungen, Ludwigsburg, II
> 204 AR-Z 1251-65 (Landgericht Regensburg, judgment Ks 6/70):
> 9-35; and 204 AR-Z 1251/65, 2:230-77 (report of Bavarian State
> Criminal Office, Munich, September 10, 1968.
>
> See also p. 135 and p. 160. These are all brief mentions of
> Babi Yar, without details, as the book is focused more on the
> police battalions themselves and the men in them than in the
> events in which they participated.
>


THAT DON'T PROVE A GOD DAMN THING, YOU IDIOT




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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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>
> Including Don Ellis, there have been six victims in this newsgroup
> who have come to my attention since Nazihunter launched his attacks
> on Matt Giwer in 1998.  I have corresponded privately with four and
> made a public offer of assistance to one other.  The only one I have
> not offered to help is Don Ellis, because he has made it impossible.
>


I DON'T RECALL REQUESTING YOUR ASSISTANCE. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
NAZIHUNTER BUT IT SEEMS YOU DO. SOMEHOW I FIND THAT STRANGE IN ITSELF.




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"Chris Tucker"  wrote in message
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>
> Donnie Boy Ellis  wrote in message
> news:IoLn4.31391$ox5.7464543@tw11.nn.bcandid.com...
> > VERY INTERESTING
> >
>
> Only Donnie could find a misspelled anonymous post interesting. Since the
> odds are good that either he posted it, or a friend of his did at his
> request it amounts to talking to himself.
>
> Donnie is only interested in talking to himself, anyway. He is the only
one
> who doesn't think he's a smelly, mornic pig.
>
>
PROVE IT COCKSUCKER




From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  8 21:40:02 EST 2000
Article: 712882 of alt.revisionism
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YOU MUST BE A NEWBIE TO THE INTERNET


"Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Michael Perry wrote:
>
> > Serious question.  Other then knowing the poster personally, how can you
> > tell if a post is forged ?
>
> Good question. While it doesn't constitute *proof*, if
> you suspect there's some forgery involved, check
> deja.com under their name & see if all or, indeed, any
> of the archived articles synch up with the one you
> suspect may be forged. Usually, the forged article/s
> will stand out, and even be diametrically opposed to
> the views expressed in the bulk of the articles.
>
> And when you see the radically different articles,
> sometimes the e-mail will be different in an extremely
> obvious way. Sometimes, you need more header info
> to tell.
>
> Susan
>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michael D. Perry
> >
> > "Just because your paranoid doesn't
> >  mean they're not out to get you "
>




From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb  8 21:40:02 EST 2000
Article: 712952 of alt.revisionism
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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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>
> But you are correct in your asessment that he is "a sniveling little
> racist with integrity and ethics that is too small to measure."
>
>
> --
>  John Morris                                
>  at University of Alberta  
>
>
>
> IT GOT YOUR FUCKING ATTENTION




From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  9 17:14:26 EST 2000
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"Steven Mock"  wrote in message
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> David E Michael wrote:
>
> > Steven Mock wrote:
> >
> > > David E Michael wrote:
> > >
> > > > Steven Mock wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > David E Michael wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Steven Mock wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Kalvatis wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > digging into people's medical histories are not public
information.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Again, I will say this. People's medical histories are not
public
> > > > > > > > information. The only reason to post crap like that is
intimitation,
> > > > > > > > something you seem to support.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And your evidence that this self-styled "nazihunter" who did
this is in
> > > > > > > any way connected to Nizkor or B'nai Brith...?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This had better be good, Kalvatis.  Otherwise you have just
made a
> > > > > > > slanderous accusation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nizkor's director is Ken McVay. Ken McVay says he knows Marduk.
Marduk is
> > > > > > Nazihunter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh really?  I missed this.  In what way did Ken McVay say that he
knows Marduk?
> > > >
> > > > In a post in alt.revisionism.
> > >
> > > My point being, you are implying that Mr. McVay is somehow responsible
for
> > > nazihunter, or that nazihunter in some way represents Nizkor.
> >
> > No, that is just you telling lies.
>
> Thank you Mr. Smear.  You are attempting to present evidence to support
Mike Kalvatis'
> contention that whoever posted private medical records represents Nizkor
or B'nai Brith.  I
> pointed out that the evidence you posted does not support this contention
at all.  Simply
> calling me a liar is not a sufficient amount of backpedalling, I'm afraid.
You're going to
> have to apologize for your failed attempt to sling mud at Ken McVay.
>
> Steve Mock
>

GO FUCK YOURSELF MOCK...THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO SHIT.




From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  9 17:14:27 EST 2000
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HELLO CRY BABY


"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> In article , "Gutless Donnie
> Ellis"  wrote:
>
> >YOU MUST BE A NEWBIE TO THE INTERNET
>
> NO, GUTLESS. IT DOESN'T TAKE A NEWBIE TO SPOT A LYING COWARD LIKE YOU.
>
> JGB
>
> =======================================================================
> Jeffrey G. Brown                                 jeff_brown@bigfoot.com
> For centuries, philosophers and theologians have debated what it means
> to be human. Perhaps the answer has eluded us because it is so simple.
> To be human is to choose. - "The Outer Limits: Feasibility Study", 1997




From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  9 17:14:27 EST 2000
Article: 713010 of alt.revisionism
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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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>
> Will do.
>
> - --
>  John Morris                                
>  at University of Alberta  
>


WILL DO WHAT?




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"William Daffer"  wrote in message
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>
>
>   And what do you take me to mean in this statement?
>
> William
>
> - --
IT MEANS FOR YOU TO GO SHOVE AN OBJECT UP YOUR ASS




From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  9 17:14:28 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Sara
>
> --


SARA STOP STALKING ME




From comments@hatewatch.com Wed Feb  9 17:14:29 EST 2000
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"Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
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>
>
> (A Forger) wrote:
>
> > YOU MUST BE A NEWBIE TO THE INTERNET
>
> Then why is it that I know how to disable my caps key & you don't?
>
> Susan
>

I LIKE CAPS.




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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Forgery forwarded to jme@SEARK.NET, abuse@bcandid.com, abuse@innocent.com,
> abuse@Mail.com, news@cw.net, abuse@concentric.net, and my attorney.
>
> Sara


SARA PLEASE STOP STALKING ME




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SARA PLEASE STOP STALKING ME




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PROOF PLEASE




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POST PROOF




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From: "David Christian" 
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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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>
> Attended any Nazi Party meetings lately?
>
> Steve


THE NAZI'S WERE DEFEATED OVER 50 YEARS AGO




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"Buck Turgidson"  wrote in message
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>
> > Visited any good graveyards recently?
>
> The last time I was in a graveyard, I had to bury a beloved relative who
died far too
> young.
>
>

YOU CAN ALWAYS BLAME THE HOLOCAUST FOR THEIR DEATH




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"Buck Turgidson"  wrote in message
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>
> ...from a man who lies on a regular basis and then lies to cover his lies.
>
>
>
> -- --Dep
>

....THIS FROM A SISSY THAT LIES SO MUCH HE HAS TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE CALL HIS
DOGS FOR HIM.




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NO COMMENT


"Buck Turgidson"  wrote in message
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> A spineless gastropod, desperately wending its path away from a salt
spill, took
> the time to forge David Christian and write:
>
> > POST PROOF
>
> Ellis, are you THIS stoopid? You've dropped below the Tom Moran standard
for
> idiocy, and believe me, that's not easy. I guess the remaining question is
not
> whether you're proud of it, but whether you even realize it.
>
>
> -- --Dep
>
> "Always tell the truth. It's the    §  "Truth is just...truth. You can't
>   easiest thing to remember."      §  have opinions about truth."
>                    --David Mamet                          --Peter
Schickele
>
> Like short-haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
> http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html
>




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From: "Doc Tavish" 
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YOU HAVE TO OVERLOOK MCVAY...HE'S AN IDIOT


 wrote in message
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> What exactly does this have to do with soc.culture.nordic?  Last time
> I checked they were not an "Aryan" hangout, but rather dealt with
> Scandinavia.
>
> In article <87qv2r$2a2o$1@news.tht.net>, kmcvay@nizkor.org.nospam writes:
> >[Follow-ups set]
> >
> >February 9
> >
> >1937
> >
> >Martin Bormann issues Decree which excludes clergymen and
> >theology students from membership in the Nazi Party (840-PS). (NCA II,
899)
> >
> >1944
> >
> >The representative of the German Foreign Ministry in the
> >Hague reports that to date 108,000 Jews have "left" the
> >country and that the population does not approve of the
> >deportation of Jews and considers it brutal. Church circles
> >are reported to be especially active in promoting this
> >attitude. (USHMM, 1994. Pg. 28)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                         Work Cited
> >
> >NCA II. Office of the United States Chief of Counsel for Prosecution of
> >   Axis Criminality. Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, Volume II.
Washington:
> >   United States Government Printing Office, 1946
> >
> >USHMM (United States Holocaust Memorial Museum). Fifty
> >   Years Ago: Darkness Before Dawn: Days of Remembrance, April
> >   3-10, 1994. Washington, D.C.: 1994
> >--
> >The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
> >Ken McVay, Director:             http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
> >            David Irving: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly
> >            www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david




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"Sam Barber OVERGROWN BABY"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Get some professional help, if you have the courage, that
> is.
>

SURE, SEND ME THE MONEY FOR IT.

> ------------------------------------------------
> "How it infuriates a bigot, when he is forced
> to drag out his dark convictions."
>
>     - Logan Persall Smith - HOMOSEXUAL
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.




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"Sam Barber"  wrote in message
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>
> I am sure he's aware that he's opened himself up to civil
> action. Apparently, getting attention through being sued is
> what he really craves.
>
> Keep up the good work.
>

HEY SAM, DON'T JUST TALK ABOUT A LAWSUIT...BE A MAN AND FUCKING DO IT




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"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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Ellis posts
> where he calls Sarah a whore, lesbian fish licker, etc.


I DON'T RECALL POSTING THAT




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"Buck Turgidson"  wrote in message
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> David E Michael wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In article <389F4A11.D2039AFE@usaor.net>, William "ipm"
Scott,
> > > > > > > > > http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/s/scott.william/,
> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Why doesn't he ever come to the US? Is there an American
warrant for
> > > > > > > > > >his arrest?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I come to the US from time to time... and am planning to
visit Georgia
> > > > > > > > > and Alaska during the next 6 months or so. Did I mention
New York,
> > > > > > > > > last summer?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Wow, McVay, you answered that question pretty quick!
Congratulations.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now, tell us whether you are a homosexual or not. For some
reason you
> > > > > > > > are very quiet when it comes to that question.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, Willi the Worm, you are very noisy when it comes to
things that aren't
> > > > > > > your, or anybody's, business. Now, tell us whether you are an
idiot or not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or better still, perhaps Mr Murphy can tell us whether he is a
liar and a
> > > > > > hypocrite or not.
> > > > >
> > > > > Already answered you in more than a couple posts, Herr
Unterstuermbannstalker
> > > > > Michael. Now, you could be nice and tell us: if you repeat an
unfounded slander
> > > > > against someone, when you know there is no proof, such as calling
someone a
> > > > > "homosexual," would you consider that a lie? And if the person who
repeated the
> > > > > slander makes a point of accusing others of lying, does that make
him a hypocrite?
> > > > >
> > > > > (HINT: Yes and yes.)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Still lying Murphy?
> > >
> > > Didn't start. Care to answer the above questions, Ahab?
> > >
> > > > Visited any good graveyards recently?
> > >
> > > The last time I was in a graveyard, I had to bury a beloved relative
who died far too
> > > young.
> > >
> > Quit going for the sympathy, Murphy.
> >
> > There's none for you here.
>
> First off, I wasn't going for sympathy. It was simply the most accurate
response I could
> make.

SURE YOU WAS


> Second off, even if I were, thank you for reminding us what a heartless
stalker you are.

YOUR WELCOME

>
> -- --Dep
>
> "Always tell the truth. It's the    §  "Truth is just...truth. You can't
>   easiest thing to remember."      §  have opinions about truth."
>                    --David Mamet                          --Peter
Schickele
>
> Like short-haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
> http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html
>




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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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> Buck Turgidson wrote:
> >
> > David E Michael wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In article <389F4A11.D2039AFE@usaor.net>, William "ipm"
Scott,
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/s/scott.william/,
> > > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >Why doesn't he ever come to the US? Is there an
American warrant for
> > > > > > > > > > >his arrest?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I come to the US from time to time... and am planning to
visit Georgia
> > > > > > > > > > and Alaska during the next 6 months or so. Did I mention
New York,
> > > > > > > > > > last summer?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Wow, McVay, you answered that question pretty quick!
Congratulations.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Now, tell us whether you are a homosexual or not. For some
reason you
> > > > > > > > > are very quiet when it comes to that question.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well, Willi the Worm, you are very noisy when it comes to
things that aren't
> > > > > > > > your, or anybody's, business. Now, tell us whether you are
an idiot or not.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Or better still, perhaps Mr Murphy can tell us whether he is a
liar and a
> > > > > > > hypocrite or not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Already answered you in more than a couple posts, Herr
Unterstuermbannstalker
> > > > > > Michael. Now, you could be nice and tell us: if you repeat an
unfounded slander
> > > > > > against someone, when you know there is no proof, such as
calling someone a
> > > > > > "homosexual," would you consider that a lie? And if the person
who repeated the
> > > > > > slander makes a point of accusing others of lying, does that
make him a hypocrite?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (HINT: Yes and yes.)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Still lying Murphy?
> > > >
> > > > Didn't start. Care to answer the above questions, Ahab?
> > > >
> > > > > Visited any good graveyards recently?
> > > >
> > > > The last time I was in a graveyard, I had to bury a beloved relative
who died far too
> > > > young.
> > > >
> > > Quit going for the sympathy, Murphy.
> > >
> > > There's none for you here.
> >
> > First off, I wasn't going for sympathy. It was simply the most accurate
response I could
> > make.
> >
> > Second off, even if I were, thank you for reminding us what a heartless
stalker you are. I
> > sincerely doubt that you actually did marry this past year; I cannot
imagine a woman who
> > would put up with such a grotesque character as yourself.
> >
> > -- --Dep
>
>
> I can.  Some poor Polish woman who is so desperate to escape Poland that
> she would marry anyone, no matter how vile, to get out.
>
> Steve


IS THAT WHERE YOU GET YOUR BITCHES


> > "Always tell the truth. It's the    §  "Truth is just...truth. You can't
> >   easiest thing to remember."      §  have opinions about truth."
> >                    --David Mamet                          --Peter
Schickele
> >
> > Like short-haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
> > http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html




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"Buck Turgidson"  wrote in message
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> David E Michael wrote:
>
> > Buck Turgidson wrote:
> >
> > > David E Michael wrote:
> > >
> > > > Buck Turgidson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > David E Michael wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > John Morris wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > > > > > Hash: SHA1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In <38A0B851.8D2454A8@btinternet.com> in alt.revisionism, on
Wed, 09
> > > > > > > Feb 2000 00:44:02 +0000, David E Michael
> > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >steve wolk wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [snip]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Mr. David Uber Alles has a one-track mind - the stalking
track.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Thus speaks a man who would have us brush dishonesty and
hyocrisy
> > > > > > > >under the carpet so that the opponents of revisionism could
continue
> > > > > > > >to try to convince the world that they are purer than nuns.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yet no one except you has claimed to be pure:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >   Incredible though it might seem to a man like you, Mr
Morris,
> > > > > > >   I am an honest person. I don't need to lie. Sure, I've made
> > > > > > >   mistakes of fact. But I have never in all my life
intentionally
> > > > > > >   set out to mislead anyone.
> > > > > > >   Message-ID: <38A0B5D0.F69F22CC@btinternet.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Never* in your life?  That's quite a claim of purity.  It
makes nuns
> > > > > > > look like barrelhouse whores.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - --
> > > > > > >  John Morris

> > > > > > >  at University of Alberta  
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 31 May 1998, David E. Michael wrote: "I found myself
labelled as a
> > > > > > > 'Nazi' (which was palpably untrue -- at least at the time)."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 16 August 1998, David E. Michael wrote:  "I am not defining
myself
> > > > > > > as a Nazi. Your fellow pro-Nizkor posters are attempting to
smear me
> > > > > > > by using the word."
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > 6NprMAqqmC3gqHTMBHf5NV0i
> > > > > > > =HI1r
> > > > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, I know that common honesty must seem rather amazing to
someone like
> > > > > > you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Coming from you, common honesty WOULD be amazing.
> > > >
> > > > Says a man who lied and was caught.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > >
> > > ...from a man who lies on a regular basis and then lies to cover his
lies.
> > >
> >
> > How strange that liar Murphy can produce no examples.
>
> I refer you to the many posts made by John Morris--and others--detailing
your
> pro-Nazi leanings and your churlish attempts to weasel away from them. I
haven't
> thought to archive those yet. But what I have archived is a very plain
attempt on
> your part to compound your lies with a lie. (Now, you might be getting
some jollies
> over the fact that I am reposting some of my own material. You are, of
course,
> allowed to feel whatever you like. But these words have appeared so many
times here
> in a.r. that they have lost all currency save their ability to prove that
you are a
> liar and a hypocrite.)
>
>
> Kommandant Curdles is caught in a lie!!! For real--and demonstrable by a
post he
> himself dug up! Oooh, does this mean he has no credibility now? (Did
heEVER?) Let
> us get to it:
>
>
> David E Michael wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Of course, leave it you to leave the question dangling about the
> > > nature of his posts to those newsgroups.
> >
> > I did not leave this dangling. I gave some examples. You are a dishonest
> > man, Mr Morris.
> >
> > > You have been content to
> > > label him repeatedly a pervert.
> >
> > What do you call someone who indulges in self abuse in front of his
> > computer screen while looking at pictures of Courtney Cox being
> > 'executed'?
>
> Now, here is the lie. As often as Curdles has posted the relevant passage,
he
> should well know that there were nomentions of "self abuse" (only prigs
refer to it
> as that anyway) and there were NO, and I must stress, NO "pictures of
Courtney Cox
> being 'executed'". Here is the passage to which he refers:
>
> 
> From: depttybob@aol.com
> Subject: Re: courtney2.jpg [00/01] By Request--Courtney Cox execution
fantasy
> (story+"rated G" pic)
> Date: 26 Nov 1996 00:00:00 GMT
> Message-ID: <19961126072900.CAA04041@ladder01.news.aol.com>
> references: 
> organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> newsgroups: alt.sex.necrophilia
> x-admin: news@aol.com
>
>
> That was very nice, thank you. Vivid imaginations need their outlets,
> after all. ;D
>
> 
>
> Good Dr.-of-bollocks-subjects Michael, would you care to look at the
subject
> header? Yes, it does say "Courtney Cox execution fantasy" (I really cannot
stand
> Courteney Cox). But after that, does it not say "story + 'rated G' pic"?
>
> It was a "rated G" picture, wasn't it, Michael? It was NOT a picture of
ANYONE
> being executed. You LIED, then, right, Michael? You are a HYPOCRITE for
condemning
> other liars, isn't that true, Michael?
>
> Also notice: there is nothing there, nothing in this post, about sexual
> gratification. Nothing about "self abuse." So you have NO way of
establishing the
> sexual connotation which you assigned to it, do you? What was the name of
the
> group? Alt.necrophilia. Is the word "sex" in there anywhere? No, it's not.
>
> So you LIED, then, right, Michael? You said something which was untrue,
and which
> you KNEW was untrue. Therefore, you LIED. And when you condemn others for
lying,
> that makes you a HYPOCRITE.
>
> Why don't you rehabilitate yourself, you fraud, by honestly responding to
this
> quote:
> "The truth of the matter is that, for the first time in half a century,
> we nationalists have the power to bring Europe to a shuddering halt."
>
> Who was "we," Kommandant Curdles? And which nationalists brought Europe
"to a
> shuddering halt" half a century ago?
>

SO WHAT IF MICHEAL IS A LIAR? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO FUCKING DO ABOUT IT. I
WILL TELL YOU...NOTHING. YOU WEAK PISS ANT


>
>
> -- --Dep
>
> "Always tell the truth. It's the    §  "Truth is just...truth. You can't
>   easiest thing to remember."      §  have opinions about truth."
>                    --David Mamet                          --Peter
Schickele
>
> Like short-haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
> http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html
>




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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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NO ONE HERE IS ANTI-SEMITIC




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GOOD POINT TOM



"tom moran"  wrote in message
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>
> At the ongoing trial between Irving and Lipstadt Irving announced that
> if all agreed to go to Auschwitz and do a forensic archaeological
> study on the alleged gas chambers he would drop the case.
>
> Result? No takers.
>
> What the Jews like to do is to tell us something is inside of a box
> but when someone says, 'Lets see it', they shy away. With that we can
> assume the box is empty.




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"David Christian"  wrote in message
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>
> Sheesh, what ever was i thinking?
> Thanks, all, for the heads-up.
>
>
YOU'RE WELCOME




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ARE YOU A HOMOSEXUAL?




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ARE YOU A HOMOSEXUAL?




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"Steven Mock"  wrote in message
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> tom moran wrote:
>
> > At the ongoing trial between Irving and Lipstadt Irving announced that
> > if all agreed to go to Auschwitz and do a forensic archaeological
> > study on the alleged gas chambers he would drop the case.
> >
> > Result? No takers.
>
> Result: its already been done.
>
> http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/polish/institute-for-forensic-research/
>
> Irving is a liar.

MCVAY IS A LIAR


> Steve Mock
>
>




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Hello Doc,

  I hope you're feeling better. Drop me a line ASAP, I have a few questions
to ask you.


--
Don Ellis

Hate Watch of America
http://www.hatewatch.com


> "Pennsylvania's law, for example, (18 Purdon's Statutes 2710 -- the
complete
> text has previously been posted) defines the the situtation as when the
crime is
> motivated by hatred of "race, color, religion, or national origin." This
is fairly easy
> to interpret except for bigots liek you."
>
> Scab Edeiken once again trying to enforce Pennsylvania law on out of
staters!
> He's really an ignorant slob isn't he? If he weren't so god damned
pathetic and
> such an outright stupid imbecile he'd be funny! :-)
>
> Doc Tavish
>




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Mike,

 This so called lawsuit is as much of a hoax as the holocaust. Nothing will
ever come of it.




"Mike Kalvatis"  wrote in message
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> Bradbury could easily get it thrown out of PA court if he would just
> put 5 minutes into fighting the case. Remember, the person suing
> Bradbury not only has to prove that Bradbury did the post in question
> (forergies are abound on usenet)  but also that he must show how he
> was harmed by the post (hurt feelings don't count).
>
> Mike
>
>




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From: "David McVay" 
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"pencil"  wrote in message
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>
> When asked for his thoughts on the implications of this revelation, Mr
McVay
> was typically tight-lipped, nor was he willing to confirm or _deny_
rumours
> that early next week he is due to meet David Irving "for a working
> breakfast" at the controversial historian's Mayfair address.
>

Rumor has it McVay had first suggested to meet in a gay bar and Irving
called him a fag.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 20 04:25:20 EST 2000
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"Anonymous"  wrote in message
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> Thank you for your responses to my post entitled Hoax of the 20th Century.
> Since all you can do is make puerile insults am I safe to assume that you
have no specifics to refute any part of the
> book?  I have now finished the book and am quite certain of
> its validity.
> And thank you for showing others in this NG your maturity levels!  Like
little smart-mouthed schoolboys.
>

It was the best they had to offer.





From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 20 04:25:20 EST 2000
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"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> Since you're anonymous it would be highly plausible you're Don Ellis.
> How's it going Don?
>


You're a silly motherfucker




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"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> You failed to mention Gehrig's and Okerbloom's response to your
> questions regarding Butz's book. These two posters provided URLs and
> commentary regarding serious critique of Butz's "Hoax of the 20th
> Century. Whoever you are, you made up your mind long before you ever
> asked for feedback on Butz's book from a.r. Perhaps you thought you'd
> score some tiny propaganda victory by posting anonymously and not having
> posters such as Mr. Wolk and Mr. Klooster respond to your gracious post
> seeking feedback on what might be wrong with Butz's book. Why are you
> posting anonymously? In any event, you've failed on both fronts. First,
> you've posted anonymously and one can't be taken really seriously if
> they choose to do that. Secondly, despite your anonymity, a few posters
> did respond to your request but you totally disregarded their input.
> My advice to you is to stop posting anonymously and be sincere.
>
> Michael Ragland
>
> I am a dirty louse propagandist who takes other posters comments out of
> context. I take part of a sentence, a sentence in a paragragh and quote
> the source. To date, I've done this to three posters on a.r.:



Glad to see you admit this.






From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 20 04:25:21 EST 2000
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"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> If I'm a silly motherfucker then why are you wasting any brains cells on
> me at all. Mr. Ellis?

BECAUSE SILLY MOTHERFUCKERS NEED HELP TOO.

The address "comments@hatewatch" specifically
> tells me it is you posting "And you're a silly motherfucker".

NO SHIT!


Why are
> you using the name "David McVay"?

WHY NOT?


Your name is Don Ellis, isn't it.

YES IT IS.


For
> the record, I don't know who is posting anonymously. I merely stated it
> was plausible you could be since you've been running around a.r. using
> everybody's elses name in subheaders. If you have never posted
> anonymously but merely been a forging/faking loose cannon, then my
> apologies.

TAKE YOUR APOLOGY AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS.


If you continue to post on a.r. please consider using your
> real name always and stop asking Mr. McVay stupid questions and
> insulting him.

SHOW ME PROOF THAT YOU'RE USING YOUR REAL NAME.

ARE YOU DEFENDING THIS DRAFTDODGER MCVAY BECAUSE HE IS YOUR LOVER?


You should be grateful Mr. McVay might still be working
> at a gas station and conveniance store to pay bills.

NOPE, BUT IF I WERE THE STORE OWNER I WOULD HAVE A POLICY AGAINST HIRING
HOMOSEXUALS.


If he had it his
> way Mr. Ellis he would spend full time gathering information on
> antisemitic groups on the internet, combatting hatred, and educating
> people about the Holocaust.
>

COMBATTING? HOW IS MCVAY COMBATTING HATRED WHEN IN FACT HE IS PROMOTING IT.

EDUCATING? WHAT A FUCKING LAUGH. AN EDUCATOR WORKING AS A GOD DAMN GAS
STATION ATTENDANT. HE COULD TEACH "HOW TO PUMP GAS 101". THAT SHIT IS FUNNY


> Michael Ragland
>
IS THIS YOUR REAL NAME?




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 20 04:25:21 EST 2000
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"Pussy Jeffrey G. Brown"  who lost his bigfoot account
for spamming wrote in message
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>
> Gutless Donnie is ashamed to post under his own name. He realizes he's
> been caught in too many lies. That's why he's making up these sock puppets
> to hide behind.
>
> JGB
>

HELLO FAGGOT




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 20 04:25:22 EST 2000
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"Herman ten Klooster"  wrote in message
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> Hey!
> Another denier spammer.
>
> Try using your real name.
>

Herman ten Klooster?

YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER USING A DIFFERENT NAME.




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"Herman ten Klooster"  wrote in message
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> Anonymous wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for your responses to my post entitled Hoax of the 20th
Century.
> > Since all you can do is make puerile insults am I safe to assume that
you have no specifics to refute any part of the
> > book?  I have now finished the book and am quite certain of
> > its validity.
> > And thank you for showing others in this NG your maturity levels!  Like
little smart-mouthed schoolboys.
>
> How about posting under your real name?
> Maybe then somebody will take you seriously. But not until then.
>

LIKE I REALLY GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU THINK.




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ARE YOU A HOMOSEXUAL?




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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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>
> Hey, come on.  He could be lying in a hospital bed instead of lying
> on Usenet.
>
> - --

WOW, that makes you look so smart.




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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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>
> 
> The stalker exhibits a familiar pattern of behaviour. Stalking often
> starts as a result of rejection; rejection rage and abandonment rage
> motivate the stalker to seek revenge. The stalker, usually a loner
> and socially inept, becomes obsessed with their target and bombards
> them with messages, emails, gifts, or abuse. The stalking behaviour
> can last for years and the intensity of abuse increases over time.
> The abuse, initially consisting of psychological violence, often
> escalates and culminates in physical violence. It's a chilling
> statistic which reveals that 90% of women who are murdered were
> stalked by their ex-partner.
>
> The Internet offers new opportunities for stalking, hence the term
> cyber stalking. The stalker can, from the safety of his or her home,
> or the anonymity of an office environment, trace, track and find out
> personal details of the target, including address, phone number, and
> more sinisterly, addresses and details of the target's family.
> 
>


Sara Salzman?




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:37 EST 2000
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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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> 
>
> Violent but intelligent, male or female, they express their violence
> by psychological means. Tell-tale signs are a Jekyll & Hyde nature,
> compulsive lying, lots of charm, aggression, dysfunctional and
> divisive thinking, denies everything, fabricates and distorts
> criticisms and allegations, flits from topic to topic, never able to
> pin him/her down on what the problem is, has strange attitudes to
> sexual behaviour, has a compulsive need to control, is emotionally
> cold and flat.
>

Gay McVay and Friends?




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"Ed Kadach"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Hey, maybe that is why David is so peeved at me. Afterall, John and
> I both live in Edmonton, I live about 5 min. away from the University
> area and perhaps he thought that Bill G. or myself would indulge
> him.
>
> Regards,
> Ed Kadach


You and Gord are both shit eating fags. So what else is new?




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"MW"  wrote in message
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>
> David E Michael wrote in message <38B765E6.F886D69C@btinternet.com>...
> >Friday February 25, 8:44 pm Eastern Time
> >
> >Yahoo! asked to shut down hate sites
> >
> >SAN FRANCISCO, Feb 25 (Reuters) - A prominent Jewish group on Friday
> >charged Yahoo! Inc.(NasdaqNM:YHOO - news) violated its own rules by
> >hosting alleged racist and anti-Semitic clubs and asked the popular
> >Internet portal to shut down the extremists' sites.
> >
> >Yahoo! clubs include bulletin boards and chat rooms that allow users to
> >post pictures and text. But under the Internet portal's service
> >agreement members are not allowed to post content that is hateful, or
> >racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable.
>
>
> Does the ADL really want to open this can of worms?
>
>

Would you expect anything less from those racist cocksuckers at ADL?




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:38 EST 2000
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"David E Michael"  wrote in message
news:38B76200.F73D5BC1@btinternet.com...
>
> And this is the man who condemns me as a 'pimp' because I steadfastly
> stand up for the poor white people of this world while he postures and
> stabs us in the back.
>
> David
>
>

People like Morris are fucking cowards. What else would you expect from a
fag?




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:38 EST 2000
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"Buck Turgidson"  wrote in message
news:38B78852.5E7F50B6@mindspring.com...
> David E Michael wrote:
>
> > Ed Kadach wrote:
> >
> > > Gord McFee wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In <38B6A852.7921B328@btinternet.com>, on Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:05:38
> > > > +0000, David E Michael  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [deleted]
> > > >
> > > > > So after all that whining . . . not one person has complained
about you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not even little me.
> > > >
> > > > That's because you are a pimp, who always has the dirty work done by
> > > > someone else.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gord McFee
> > >
> > > Hey, maybe that is why David is so peeved at me. Afterall, John and
> > > I both live in Edmonton, I live about 5 min. away from the University
> > > area and perhaps he thought that Bill G. or myself would indulge
> > > him.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ed Kadach
> >
> > Note that while Slimey Eddie Kadach has now taken to accusing
revisionists of
> > being 'pimps' (falsely in my case -- unlike Mr Kadach, some of us have
the
> > qualifications to pursue more remunerative means of earning a living) he
is on
> > first-name terms with some of the most dishonest opponents of
revisionism.
> >
> > Would you trust this man with his own mother's underwear?
>
> What a bizarre image. What on earth would you be doing with your mother's
> underwear. Mr. Michael, trustworthy or not?
>
>
>
> -- --Dep
>

For your faggot thoughts he should have said your FATHER'S underwear.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:40 EST 2000
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Are you a homosexual?




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:40 EST 2000
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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
news:38B76DCE.60C13546@erols.com...
> jack7422@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > George Lincoln Rockwell is a great man who brought National Socialism
> > to the United States and don't you forget it.
> >
> > WHITE POWER
> >
> > jack
>
>
>
> Double your dosage.
>
> Steve

Go suck another dick Steve




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:40 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
news:catamont-2502002229400001@ts003d30.den-co.concentric.net...
> In article , Don Ellis, a
> slimy piece of crap pretending to be "John Morris"
>  wrote:
>
> >"John Morris"  wrote in message
> >news:1i4dbssekrhluqvojo1fvrpd9pr2dfpoa9@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> 
> >> The stalker exhibits a familiar pattern of behaviour. Stalking often
> >> starts as a result of rejection; rejection rage and abandonment rage
> >> motivate the stalker to seek revenge. The stalker, usually a loner
> >> and socially inept, becomes obsessed with their target and bombards
> >> them with messages, emails, gifts, or abuse. The stalking behaviour
> >> can last for years and the intensity of abuse increases over time.
> >> The abuse, initially consisting of psychological violence, often
> >> escalates and culminates in physical violence. It's a chilling
> >> statistic which reveals that 90% of women who are murdered were
> >> stalked by their ex-partner.
> >>
> >> The Internet offers new opportunities for stalking, hence the term
> >> cyber stalking. The stalker can, from the safety of his or her home,
> >> or the anonymity of an office environment, trace, track and find out
> >> personal details of the target, including address, phone number, and
> >> more sinisterly, addresses and details of the target's family.
> >> 
> >>
> >
> >
> >Sara Salzman?
>
> No, Don Ellis. The same Don Ellis who composed an entire series of posts
> about me.
>
> THAT Don Ellis.
>
> Sara
>
Still Stalking Sara?




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:41 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article , Don Ellis, a
> completel piece of slime pretending to be  "John Morris"
>  wrote:
>
> >"John Morris"  wrote in message
> >news:er4dbsok3hbc6blmfphsnc9ovp8jeb443p@4ax.com...
> >> 
> >>
> >> Violent but intelligent, male or female, they express their violence
> >> by psychological means. Tell-tale signs are a Jekyll & Hyde nature,
> >> compulsive lying, lots of charm, aggression, dysfunctional and
> >> divisive thinking, denies everything, fabricates and distorts
> >> criticisms and allegations, flits from topic to topic, never able to
> >> pin him/her down on what the problem is, has strange attitudes to
> >> sexual behaviour, has a compulsive need to control, is emotionally
> >> cold and flat.
> >>
> >
> >Gay McVay and Friends?
>
> Ah, that Piece of Offal, Mr. Ellis, is back to forging the names of others
> again.
>
> Some idiots just don't go away.
>
> Sara
>
And some still stalk me for sex.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:42 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article <38B743DA.166C@connect.ab.ca>, eddiek@connect.ab.ca wrote:
>
> >John Morris wrote:
> >>
> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >> Hash: SHA1
> >>
> >> In <38b5d93c.101095862@news-server> in alt.revisionism, on Fri, 25
> >> Feb 2000 01:18:52 GMT, pgroff@prodigy.net (Pgroff) wrote:
> >>
> >> >Say Scottiekins, given up on USENET???
> >>
> >> Hey, come on.  He could be lying in a hospital bed instead of lying
> >> on Usenet.
> >>
> >> - --
> >>  John Morris                                
> >>  at University of Alberta  
> >
> >
> >Not funny! He has been in and out of the hospital.
> >
> >Ed
>
> Mr. Kadach:
>
> Would you update us please? All I heard was a statement from Mr. Bradbury
> saying he would be in the hospital for a few days... that was, of course,
> conveniently just before his presence was requested by the Allentown
> Court.
>
> As far as I know, he didn't bother to notify the court of his
> "hospitalization," which does make us wonder whether he is in fact hiding
> out rather than submitting to medical treatment.
>
> Any information would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
> Sara
>
I chatted with the Doc just a few days ago. He is doing well after his
hospitalization. His health is his first issue.

So back off bitch!




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:45 EST 2000
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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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> David E Michael wrote:
> >
> > Buck Turgidson wrote:
> >
> > > David E Michael wrote:
> > >
> > > > Orac wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article <5Uit4.7938$pn1.281224@news0.telusplanet.net>,
> > > > > $kr1p7_k177y@tranquil.hegemony.ca wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Gord McFee  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> [David Michael] is an Internet stalker, a troll, a supreme
hypocrite,
> > > > > >> and an evil and horrid man, and the proof is in his own words
and actions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The same can be said about most people who frequent this NG,
regardless
> > > > > >of what 'noble' cause they claim to support.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does that assessment include you too?
> > > >
> > > > Well it certainly applies to you.
> > >
> > > Neener neener.
> > >
> > > -- --Dep
> > >
> > > "Always tell the truth. It's the    §  "Truth is just...truth. You
can't
> > >   easiest thing to remember."      §  have opinions about truth."
> > >                    --David Mamet                          --Peter
Schickele
> > >
> > > Like short-haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
> > > http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html
> >
> > Mr Murphy, I have read about two of the numerous posts that you have
made in the past
> > 24 hours, mostly dedicated to attacking me.
> >
> > I have only one reply.
>
>
>
> One reply, made 50 times.  What a lame, sniveling weenie.
>
> Steve

Weenie? God Damn, that should turn you on Stevie




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:45 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article ,Don Ellis, a
> slimy, cowardly piece of shit presenting to be  "John Morris"
>  wrote:
>
> [more homoerotic spam]
>
> --
> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>, doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
wrote:
>
> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
>
>

Sara stop Stalking me.




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"Pgroff"  wrote in message
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> On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 12:17:06 GMT, "John Morris"
when are you going to quit forging
> other peoples names to your posts??
>
>       pgroff
>          |


You're a fucking idiot.





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"Orac"  wrote in message news:B4DD5FE9.27970%Orac@mac.com...
>
> Don, when are you going to stop posting under other people's names?
>
> --
> Orac        |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
> a.k.a.      |


Go suck another dick faggot, indulge yourself.




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"Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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>
> You, on the other hand, are unable and/or unwilling to do so.
>
>
> JGB
>


Hey cocksucker, go suck McVay's dick again.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:48 EST 2000
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From: "John Morris" 
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> [another cowardly piece of nothing]
>
> --


Stop stalking me you nasty whore.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:48 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> I'm sorry to see you are now on Don Ellis' "shit" list. Isn't it amazing
> what happens when one disagrees with the WPRs?
>
> Sara
>

The same thing happens when a jew whore starts stalking you.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:49 EST 2000
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"Orac"  wrote in message news:B4DD5ECF.2796D%Orac@mac.com...
>
> Indeed. Their reaction is even more virulent than it is against their
> presumed "enemies."
> --
> Orac


I have no enemies you stupid cocksucker.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:49 EST 2000
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"David Gehrig"  wrote in message
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>
> Well, it's never been a secret that WPRs eat their own -- sometimes in
> more than one sense.
>
> @%<


You fags suck each others dicks as well.




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"Fledgist"  wrote in message
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>
> Oh, are you a drug dealer?
>
>
> Fragano Ledgister


Are you a homosexual?




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:50 EST 2000
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"Orac"  wrote in message
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>
> And I thought I was the only one who couldn't figure out what the hell
Moran was
> asking?
>
> --
> Orac


That is because you and your faggot friends are idiots.




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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> Still forging, Mr. Ellis?
>
> --

Jew bitch is still Stalking me.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:51 EST 2000
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"Michael Ragland"  wrote in message
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> Moran
> The Last Rebel
> Ed Kadach
>
> garbage in.....garbage out
>
> They are....circle jerks.
>
> Feeding off the vomit of each other
>
> Michael Ragland
>
That means a great deal coming from a shit eater like yourself.




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"Shit Lover Gord McFee"  wrote in message
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>
> Note that David's new friend is one Don Ellis, purveyor of pictures of
> men eating each other's excrement.  Quite fitting I would say.
>

I'm everyone's friend. You really like those pictures, don't you? Your a
sick cocksucker.

> --
> Gord McFee
>
> Visit the BullShit Holocaust History Project
> http://www.holocaust-history.org
>
> Visit the Homosexual Nizkor site
> http://www.nizkor.org




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:52 EST 2000
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"Faggot Gord McFee"  wrote in message
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>
> I wouldn't even trust you with your hamster.
>
> --
> Gord McFee


No one will trust you with their children.




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References: <38B7423A.1BBD@connect.ab.ca>                                                                                            
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"Orac"  wrote in message
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>
> That, of course, is incorrect. Ask around if you don't believe me.
>
> --
> Orac


Only a cocksucker like you would believe in a "net friend", fucking net
trash.




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"ShitEater Gord McFee"  wrote in message
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>
> Seems Donnie has a thing for shit.
>
> --
> Gord McFee


You like eating shit? I bet a fag like yourself loves the smell of a sewer.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:53 EST 2000
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"Faggot Gord McFee"  wrote in message
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>
> The only "shit eating fags: I have seen are on your website, pervert.
>
> --
> Gord McFee


One of them could be you.




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"Fuck a Buck Turgidson"  wrote in message
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>
> Ed,
>
> What I am beginning to wonder about now is the aftermath. I'm going on the
> assumption that David Michael will eventually stop melting down, figure
out how
> badly he has screwed up, and try to make amends to the Revisionists he has
> offended. My question is, have you given any thought yet on how to handle
that?
> I mean, do you just welcome him bck with open arms or with conditions,
such as
> apologies, etc? Or are his bridges now burnt?
>
>
>
> -- --Dep
>
 Why don't you take him in and fuck him up the ass, at least you'll enjoy
it.

BTW, share some shit with Faggot Gord.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:54 EST 2000
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References: <38B7423A.1BBD@connect.ab.ca>                                                                                            
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"Jew Whore Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> >I have no enemies you stupid cocksucker.
>
> Now THERE'S the biggest lie in alt.revisionism.
>
> --

OPPS

I have no enemies you stupid whore.




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"Two Bit Whore Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Do you kiss your mother with that mouth, Mr. Ellis?
>
> --

Do you also suck your father's dick?




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:54 EST 2000
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From: "Jeffery G. Brown" 
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"Aranthas"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Is Your family aware of Your hobbies and of the obcenities You publicly
> declare here?
>
> Aranthas
>
>
Is your family aware you're out of jail?




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:55 EST 2000
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"Jobless Whore Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> And while you're at it, find another newsgroups to torment. This one isn't
> interested.
>
> Sara
>
Find a job Whore




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:56 EST 2000
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"Derek Bell"  wrote in message
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> John Morris  wrote:
> : Are you a homosexual?
>
> Tell us *why* you keep asking that question.


Why will you not answer it?




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:57 EST 2000
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References: <38B76200.F73D5BC1@btinternet.com>                                                                               
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"Dog Fucker Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Do you kiss your mother with that mouth, Mr. Ellis?
>
> --
Are you still fucking your dog?




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:57 EST 2000
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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> You can say "stalk" all you want, Corny, but it doesn't change the facts
at all.
>
> --
Your right, facts do show your stalking me




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:59 EST 2000
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"Dog Fucker Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Can't stand the heat, get out of the Newsgroup, Mr. Ellis.
>
> Your spams and forgeries are about as welcome as David Michael.
>
> Sara


Like David really gives a damn what you think. I have no respect for net
trash like yourself.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:40:59 EST 2000
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"Pussy Eater Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> >"Dog Fucker Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
> >news:catamont-2602001457160001@ts005d25.den-co.concentric.net...
> >>
> >> Do you kiss your mother with that mouth, Mr. Ellis?
> >>
> >> --
> >
> >Do you also suck your father's dick?
>
> You really are a piece of filth, Mr. Ellis.
>

That really means something coming from a incest whore like yourself.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:41:02 EST 2000
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"Stalking Whore Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Is it possible for Mr. Ellis to respond to anything without invective?
>
> I didn't think so.
>


Hey Fat Ass, I have no enemies.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:41:03 EST 2000
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"Ed Kadach"  wrote in message
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>
> Let's make the following assumption: John Morris' supervisor
> is a white man. Did you, David, not stab an innocent, ordinary
> white man in the back for absolutely no reason at all?
>
> Regards,
> Ed Kadach


When it comes to homosexuals we are color blind. No matter what color you
paint one they are all nasty animals.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:41:03 EST 2000
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"Chris Tucker"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Donnie, I know you are morally challenged, but do you want us to believed
> that you are such a mentally handicapped nut-ball that you would E-MAIL
your
> address directly to someone you claimed was stalking you?
>
> How many braincells have you lost through your constant perusal of
> pornography, Donnie? All but the one you use to make up these lame
charges?
>
>
Unlike nasty fags like yourself I have nothing to hide. I refuse to go in
hiding because of some dog fucking whore.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:41:03 EST 2000
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"Chris Tucker"  wrote in message
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>
> >
>
> Quit shopping for your dates here, Donnie Boy.
>
>

The typical homosexual reply.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:41:05 EST 2000
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References: <38B76200.F73D5BC1@btinternet.com>                                                                                 
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"Chris Tucker"  wrote in message
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>
> > "Dog Fucker Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
> > news:catamont-2602001511170001@ts005d25.den-co.concentric.net...
> > >
> > > Do you kiss your mother with that mouth, Mr. Ellis?
> > >
> > > --
> > Are you still fucking your dog?
>
> Donnie, your perverted passions are not of interest to us here.
>
> Get your kicks in the alt.sex. groups like a normal perv, okay?
>


Go suck another dick like a typical Fag, okay?




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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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>
>
>
> I suspect he'll stop when he acquires some sense of honor and
> self-respect.  We should live so long.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
Coming from a cocksucker like yourself this message really has no meaning.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:41:06 EST 2000
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"Chris Tucker"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Speaking as a peddler of gay child porn and a repetitive poster under
> assumed names you know all about being a coward and a homosexual, don't
you
> Donnie Boy?
>
>
It is not hard to see through fags like you.




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"Gord McFee"  wrote in message
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>
> Go fuck your hamster.
>
> --
> Gord McFee
>

Go fuck your mother...again




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:41:07 EST 2000
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"faggot steve wolk"  wrote in message
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>
>
>
> You know, I'm beginning to think this Ellis character was the sporger.
> He posts about as often and makes just as much sense.
>
> Steve
>
>

It goes along with this newsgroup, get used to it or fucking leave.




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"faggot steve wolk"  wrote in message
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> Gord McFee wrote:
> >
>
>
>
> The coprophagist and the coprophiliac.  What a pair.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
WOW, the little faggot found www.dictionary.com




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"Dog Fucker Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article <38b5d93c.101095862@news-server>, pgroff@prodigy.net (Pgroff)
wrote:
>
> >Say Scottiekins, given up on USENET???
> >
> >      pgroff
> >         |
> >http://www.Holocaust-History.org
> >
>
> Gee Patrick, we've "lost" quite a few recently, haven't we?
>
> Bellinger slunk away.
>
> Don Ellis self-destructed quite nicely.
>
> Tavish/Bradbury is in hiding in case the Bench Warrant is issued.
>
> Dr. Michael is committing Usenet suicide even as we speak.
>
> And Irving is gonna lose BIG TIME.
>
> It feels like Spring is in the air.
>
> Sara
>
Sara is fucking her father while sucking a dog dick.




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:41:08 EST 2000
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"IDIOT Gord McFee"  wrote in message
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> The brute has gone completely bonkers.  It didn't take long for the real
> loathsome David Michael to emerge.  Just like your beloved Fuehrer in
> the bunker.
>
> --
> Gord McFee

Hitler is dead you fucking idiot.




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"John Morris"  wrote in message
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>
> I don't how you can take the abuse.  I would just wilt like a cut
> flower and weep in the corner if someone gave my conditions short
> shrift.
>
> - - --
>  John Morris

Go suck another dick John




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:41:10 EST 2000
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"Aranthas"  wrote in message
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>
>
> --
> Isnīt democracy great!
> --
> Jeffery G. Brown  wrote:
> Eo1u4.74073$ox5.19613728@tw11.nn.bcandid.com...
> >
> > "Aranthas"  wrote in message
> > news:72Yt4.297$KK3.6433@read2.inet.fi...
> > >
> > >
> > > Is Your family aware of Your hobbies and of the obcenities You
publicly
> > > declare here?
> > >
> > > Aranthas
> > >
> > >
> > Is your family aware you're out of jail?
> >
> Remember, only Your brain stands in Your way to consciousness.
>
> Aranthas
>
>
Your Peace of mind is only a bullet away.




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"Fledgist"  wrote in message
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> >
> >"Dog Fucker Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
> >news:catamont-2502000730420001@ts002d08.den-co.concentric.net...
> >> In article <38b5d93c.101095862@news-server>, pgroff@prodigy.net
(Pgroff)
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >Say Scottiekins, given up on USENET???
> >> >
> >> >      pgroff
> >> >         |
> >> >http://www.Holocaust-History.org
> >> >
> >>
> >> Gee Patrick, we've "lost" quite a few recently, haven't we?
> >>
> >> Bellinger slunk away.
> >>
> >> Don Ellis self-destructed quite nicely.
> >>
> >> Tavish/Bradbury is in hiding in case the Bench Warrant is issued.
> >>
> >> Dr. Michael is committing Usenet suicide even as we speak.
> >>
> >> And Irving is gonna lose BIG TIME.
> >>
> >> It feels like Spring is in the air.
> >>
> >> Sara
> >>
> >Sara is fucking her father while sucking a dog dick.
> >
>
> This is not an appropriate group for your sexual fantasies.
>
> Fragano Ledgister


You can always leave




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:41:11 EST 2000
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"Fledgist"  wrote in message
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>
> I wonder if his friends call him "Baldrick".
>
> Fragano Ledgister


YOUR FRIENDS CALL YOU COCKSUCKER




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 17:41:12 EST 2000
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"Fledgist"  wrote in message
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> >
> >
> >Are you a homosexual?
> >
>
> What's it to you?
> Fragano Ledgister


ANSWER THE GOD DAMN QUESTION OR ARE YOU ASHAMED OF COMING OUT.




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"Orac"  wrote in message
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>
> Really, Donnie? I know of at least a couple who could probably be
> considered enemies.
>
> --
> Orac


YES, REALLY.




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"Orac"  wrote in message
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>
> Naahhh. The kids on SOUTH PARK are far more sophisticated and funny than
> Donnie could ever be.
>
> --
> Orac


SO YOU DO WATCH THAT SHIT. YOU'RE A FUCKING PUNK ORAC.




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"David E Michael"  wrote in message
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>
> Joe Stalin was white too. There's good and bad in all races. Although we
> wouldn't expect the two lovebirds, Kadach and Morris, to be able to
> appreciate that.
>
> David

THEY ARE LOVERS.




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"David E Michael"  wrote in message
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> > Boo hoo hoo.
> >
> > Sara
> >
>
> Hey, I thought you were supposed to have killfiled me!
>
> More lies from the anti-revisionists . . .
>
> David
>
IGNORE THAT FUCKING JEW WHORE.




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SHE WAS TRASH




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Ken McVay 
Tuesday, February 01, 2000 12:05 AM
alt.revisionism,alt.politics.nationalism.white
My sex life NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS




To Ellis and others, my sex life is none of your damn
business.  It is no big secret that I am gay, so you
have not scored any major points in exposing that.
So now tell me, how does my sexual orientation effect
my credibility in discussing the Holocaust, and in
exposing the deniers for what they are?
I'm gay and loving it.  Now DEAL WITH IT!





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"CHICKEN HAWK Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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>
> Nope. You're stuck with the label of "lying bigoted coward". You will be
> until you die, idiot.
>
> JGB

JUST LIKE YOU'RE LABELED AS A CHICKEN HAWK FOR THE REST OF YOUR CHILD
MOLESTING LIFE.




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"Joel Rosenberg"  wrote in message
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> Professor Lipstadt is so dangerous to the likes of David
> Irving --


THE BITCH IS A JOKE, YOU'RE A FOOL TO BELIEVE OTHERWISE.




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"Pgroff"  wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:30:49 GMT, "Kenneth McVay OBC"
>  wrote:
>
> >
> >You can always leave
> >
>
> Don Ellis, doing another internet impression, or should I say forgery
> has taken leave, of his mental faculties.
>
>       pgroff
>          |

HEY COCKSUCKER, YOU CAN LEAVE TOO




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"Warren's All-Stars"  wrote in message
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>
>
> David E Michael wrote:
>
> > Orac wrote:
> >
> > > In article <38B8A17E.BEDF918C@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > >Here is my response, and the response of all genuine patriots, to
your
> > > >'conditions', Mr Kadach.
> > > >
> > > >I spit at your 'conditions'. I vomit at them. I regard them with
total
> > > >contempt and disgust. Anyone who knowingly makes common cause with a
> > > >traitor is himself a traitor. And any genuine nationalist will give
> > > >you and your 'conditions' short shrift.
> > >
> > > Looks like Steve wins the bet over whether Dr. Michael will ever do
the
> > > right thing and apologize to the people he's wronged.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Orac        |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."--Orac
> > > a.k.a.      |
> > > David Gorski|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
> > >             | inconvenience me with questions?"--Orac again
> >
> > On the contrary, I apologize unreservedly to all whom I have ever
wronged.
> > But I'll be b******d if I'm going to apologize to all and sundry,
including
> > those to whom I have done no wrong, just to salvage the reputation of
> > Slimey Eddie.
> >
> > David
>
> Sorry, preconditions are not met.  Apology is rejected.  Better luck next
time.
>
> Steve
>
>
GO SUCK ANOTHER DICK STEVE




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"FAGGOT Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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> In >Message-id: <38B8A17E.BEDF918C@btinternet.com>
>
> >David E Michael david.e.michael@btinternet.com wrote:
>
>
>
> >Ed Kadach wrote:
> >
> >> Buck Turgidson wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Orac wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > In article 38B77266.22B9@connect.ab.ca, Ed Kadach at
> >eddiek@connect.ab.ca
> >> > > wrote on 2/26/2000 1:27 AM:
> >> > >
> >> > > > steve wolk wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >> I wonder if he'll exercise his right to post Ed's, Phillips' and
> >> > > >> Kalvatis' addresses and phone numbers?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Steve
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I thought David would have re-posted mine by now but being
> >> > > > a coward he'll wait for someone else (eg. Nazihunter) to
> >> > > > do it. But then again, it has been suggested David may be....
> >> > > > nah, it can't be. Nazihunter never stooped as low as David
> >> > > > did when he posted info on a completely innocent third party.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ed
> >> > >
> >> > > Ed,
> >> > >
> >> > > Although we have argued in the past, on this we are actually in
> >agreement. I
> >> > > half expect to see the Devil playing hockey with his demons, as
Hell
> >has
> >> > > surely frozen over. :-)
> >> >
> >> > Ed,
> >> >
> >> > What I am beginning to wonder about now is the aftermath. I'm going
on
> >the
> >> > assumption that David Michael will eventually stop melting down,
figure
> >out how
> >> > badly he has screwed up, and try to make amends to the Revisionists
he
> >has
> >> > offended. My question is, have you given any thought yet on how to
handle
> >that?
> >>
> >> I haven't even given it a thought. David will have to make amends
> >> to each and every Revisionist in the manner that they personally
> >> deem appropriate and one that appeases them individually.
> >>
> >> > I mean, do you just welcome him bck with open arms or with
conditions,
> >such as
> >> > apologies, etc?
> >>
> >> With open arms? Hardly. My personal thoughts are that there will
> >> indeed be certain stipulations that David will have to meet.
> >> First and foremost,  David will need to apologize to the innocent
> >> party. How he does this will depend on him. Will he be man enough
> >> to do it himself, at the moment I doubt it. However, there is another
> >> way that would be acceptable to me, and that is if David were to use
> >> John as a conduit to relay the apology to the injured, innocent party.
> >> I do believe though that David will do it in the proper way.
> >>
> >> >Or are his bridges now burnt?
> >>
> >> Oh, I'm sure they are with people from both, the Revisionist
> >> and anti-Revisionist sides.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > -- --Dep
> >>
> >> Ed
> >
> >Now look at this, folks! Slimey Eddie is laying down 'conditions'!
> >
> >Let us put this question to Slimey Eddie, merely for the delight of
watching
> >him
> >dodge it.
> >
> >Slimey Eddie -- you are a man with a track record of attacking
nationalists
> >in public
> >and spreading rumours about them. A track record that, I'm afraid, is not
> >unlike that
> >of a typical agent provocateur. You have posted the URLs of
anti-revisionist
> >organizations evidently for no other purpose than to advertise them. You
> >attack
> >patriotic posters who comment on the death of an anti-revisionist poster
who
> >confessed that during the war 'I bombed civilians and strafed them too'.
Then
> >you
> >attack revisionists in public for the sole purpose of impressing your
Nizkor
> >friends,
> >when if you had genuine concerns those concerns could easily have been
> >expressed in
> >private. And then, to add insult to injury, you attempt to misrepresent
> >nationalists
> >as hating other races when the truth of the matter is that nationalism is
> >based on
> >love of one's own race and nation.
> >
> >Now why on earth should any right-thinking nationalist want to build
bridges
> >with
> >you, Slimey Eddie?
> >
> >Here is my response, and the response of all genuine patriots, to your
> >'conditions',
> >Mr Kadach.
> >
> >I spit at your 'conditions'. I vomit at them. I regard them with total
> >contempt and
> >disgust. Anyone who knowingly makes common cause with a traitor is
himself a
> >traitor.
> >And any genuine nationalist will give you and your 'conditions' short
shrift.
>
> "I'm melting, I'm melting..."
>
> Disgusting little armchair nationalist.
>
> --
> Philip Mathews
>

NASTY LITTLE FAGGOT




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"Warren's All-Stars"  wrote in message
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>
>
> David E Michael wrote:
>
> > Sara Salzman wrote:
> >
> > > In article <38B8C212.907D1CFE@erols.com>, steve wolk
 wrote:
> > >
> > > >David E Michael wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Albrecht Kolthoff wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > David E Michael wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > [...]
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >Most of his posts serve only to discredit revisionism
> > > >> >
> > > >> > You are talking about yourself, Mr. Michael.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Albrecht Kolthoff
> > > >>
> > > >> Then why do the anti-revisionists suck up to him and detest me?
> > > >>
> > > >> David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I don't know, David.  It could be because you're thoroughly
detestable.
> > > >Just a wild guess.
> > > >
> > > >Steve
> > >
> > > Oh, Dr. Michael, cry us a river, will you?
> > >
> > > I don't suck up to anyone. There are some revisionists who I hold in
> > > contempt, and some whom I disagree with but can still respect. Mr.
> > > McClelland comes to mind.
> > >
> > > You, on the other hand, have shown yourself to be completely beneath
> > > contempt. And still you defend your vile behavior.
> > >
> > > Boo hoo hoo.
> > >
> > > Sara
> > >
> > > --
> > > In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>,
doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> > > As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
> >
> > Hey, I thought you were supposed to have killfiled me!
> >
> > More lies from the anti-revisionists . . .
> >
> > David
>
> Have you now become so demented that you are unable to follow a thread?
She was
> responding to my post, not yours.
>
> Steve
>
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? EVERYONE OF MCVAY'S FOLLOWERS ARE FUCKING
FREAKS OF NATURE.




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I'm Cecelia and I actually did post this to soc.culture.jewish awhile
back. And Ken, it is spelled "Cecelia" not "Cecilia." You and I go
back to 1991, before you founded Nizkor, Ken. You should know how to
properly spell my name. And I am part of the history of Nizkor, Ken,
yet you pretend to have just barely heard of me.

I sent you in materials and you used them, but did not credit me as
the source. These concerned much material on Willis Carto and some key
information on Fred Leuchter's patents, engineering ethics, chemistry
(to refute Fred Leuchter's claims) etc.

In fact, you ignored my material on Carto for many e-mails until one
day, one of them clicked something in you. *then* you posted a request
to your  mailing list (to which I was one of
the original subscribers) which went defunct long before the founding
of Nizkor asking for info on Willis Carto. Then after a while longer,
due in significant part, to the info *I* sent you on Carto, you then
made him a very big project of yours, the topic of a whole long FAQ
even.

The stuff on Leuchter's patents also received no ack from you. Yet,
one day long past, I was browsing the Jerusalem1 server in Israel and
noticed there was a section on Revisionism there. It was mainly or
perhaps solely a mirror of your pre-Nizkor anti-Revisionist website. I
forget what you called it. THERE, under a subdirectory on Leuchter,
was verbatim my e-mail to you on Leuchter's patents. But the header
was stripped off. See, Ken, you saw value in this information, but you
did not see value in me as the source. It was only after I complained
to your webmaster, Jamie McCarthy, that you revised that page to
include the original headers of the msg. For other e-mail msgs I saw
on the Jerusalem1 mirror such as ones from Danny Keren, you left the
headers intact. But mine? Oh well.

And the chemistry and physics material I sent you to refute Leuchter's
claims, you totally ignored, so I gave up sending you additional
material. Yet, later, the same information appeared in your site with
a Brian Harmon being given great accolades by you for providing it to
you. Brian did indeed provide the info to you at a later date than I
did, but it was the same info I had offered to you. From Brian, it was
not only worth your repeating, but you also saw fit to give im credit.
Yes, his was in more detail, but I think when he sent in the initial
stuff, you encouraged him to send in more, so he did. I was not so
fortunate to get encouraged.

Oh, and medical information I sent you to refute specific claims of
deniers you also ignored.

One time, I and Jamie McCarthy sent you material together (the I
obtained alone). This was concerning what "Murungu" means in Shona (a
southern African Bantu language - an Internet National Socialist used
the nickname of "Murungu" so that was why I offered to Jamie an
explanation of what this word means). *This* you put on your Nizkor
site. But the fact that Jamie was the one I approached with the info
instead of you made a difference.

Jamie eventually resigned from Nizkor. It was soon after that that
soc.culture.jewish.holocaust went dead. Jamie was doing the technical
work for you while you over-moderated the content. Without Jamie's
technical help, you could no longer run soc.culture.jewish.holocaust,
so you let it lie fallow rather than let some other moderator take
over to keep it active.

Recently, soc.culture.jewish.holocaust came back to life. And guess
what. It is back under the care of one or more of the original
founders -- that is, the people who ran it out of a University of
North Carolina server before they no longer had time to devote to it
(and when you then took it over).

Why, Ken, do you treat me like such dirt? I think it had a lot to do
with the fact that I want to empower and enable people while you want
to dominate and control. And the fact my learning style is to get
varied info from a variety of sources rather than just mindlessly
learn from just one (and one on your exact wavelenght) has also a lot
to do with it. And the fact that I do not want to bit the head off of
every Revisionist I meet or see has much to do with it too.

My approach is far different than yours. I seek to understand and
elucidate while you seek to punish and reek revenge. I seek to prevent
future Revisionism before it starts by elucidating *why* people become
Revs in the first place and providing viable alternatives to satisfy
the same needs such people seek and find in Revisionism. You, by
contrast, seek to hunt them down, "expose" them, discredit them and
equate each and every one of them with hard-core Jew-haters. I seek to
humanize whilst you seek to dehumanize them.

Oh, and the fact that I know what Revisionism is (and is *not*) from
the *inside out* instead of from the outside letting my prejudices
dictate to me what is inside --- that has a lot to do with it too.

I was potentially a very valuable resource to you, Ken. But you did
not want elucidation and alternatives and causes of Rev that do not
fit your preconceived notions.

(According to you, each and every person who becomes a Rev does so out
of evil motives, specifically, Jew-hating motives -- but I posited
motives like trying to find relief from a Shoah that is too hard to
bear and further posited that Germans both American-born and
European-born are at much greater risk to become Rev's due to a need
to seek shelter from the guilt -- guilt which is big enought as it is,
but gets amplified further by anti-German bigots. THIS vital info YOU
did not want to HEAR.)

If I had offered to name you names of all the in-the-closet Revs I
knew and to give you private personal information on the
publicly-Revisionist people I know (I mean information they would want
kept private), maybe then you would have seen me as a valuable
resource, Ken. But this too is not my style. I would relate other
Revisionist's experiences to you but with all identifying information
expunged. You did not like that Ken. Names, addresses, employers you
would have wanted. Traumatic anti-German childhood and young adult
experiences you did not want.

Along the same lines, you once put out a call for any information
anybody knows about Arthur Butz (a Revisionist who is also an
engineering prof). I offered you lots of info about what he has done
engineering-wise and professor-wise. I also has publicly-available
family background info to submit once I saw how you responded to the
engineering and professor info. But you just e-mailed me back with a
rude letter saying you are not interested in the engineering aspects
of Butz. See, Ken, you only wanted DIRT on Butz. You did not want
NORMAL information that is essential for a full and complete
understanding of Arthur Robert Butz.

Interestingly enough, I later read Deborah Lipstadt's chapter on Butz
in her _Denying the Holocaust_. Some of it was *wrong.* The correct
info was in the stuff I sent you and you pooh-poohed and in the stuff
I was waiting to send you, but did not. Seems like Lipstadt would have
been interested in seeing the stuff *before* her book went to press --
it would have saved her errors.

Have you been in contact with Lipstadt as she as still working on
_Denying the Holocaust_, Ken? See now how you could have received all
the info I had on Butz (not just the dirt) and then alerted Lipstadt
about it. Lipstadt could have then contacted me (that is, if you would
have been decent enough to credit me as the source) and seen what I
had for herself and then go and review the direct sources from whence
I got the info in the first place. These were not insider Revisionist
sources. These were publicly available sources. She could then have
written the final draft of _Denying_ to reflect this all. Now, she has
gone on record as making some basic errors on basic biographical info
on not only Butz, but also on App (to whom she also devotes a whole
chapter).

I then e-mailed you for advice on how I correct these errors without
making Deborah Lipstadt sound foolish. You pooh-poohed the notion that
I could be right and Lipstadt be wrong. To bad, Ken.

Actually I was wrong to have ever tried to seek such advice from you
in the first place. I already knew what you were like, but at the
time, you were for all practical purposes, all I had.

So, you unilaterally decided that my massive, but "normal" information
on Butz was not worth knowing and not worth passing on to scholars
researching Holocaust denial. But, I suppose, in addtion to thinking
you speak for each and every participant of  (such as by posting "Knoll
speaks for none of us" with the "us" meaning all the participants of
the said NGs), you think can speak for Lipstadt and also but make her
decisions for her. Too bad.

So I had little value to you, Ken. Too bad. What I know, in the right
hands, is invaluable for the very same "combat the Holocaust deniers"
work you so sincerely and diligently devote yourself to. But you
methodology is so different from mine that I even had to put your
phrase "combat the Holocaust deniers" in quote marks because it is so
different from what I feel when I think of reducing the phenonomon of
Holocaust denial. I do not want to "combat" Holocaust deniers who are
sincere disbelievers of the Shoah. I just want to provide viable
alternatives and to combat the *causes* of people seeking solace or an
outlet in Revisionism.

Thanks to people like you, Ken, there is at this time a dire poverty
of viable alternatives to Revisionism. Thanks to you and your ilk,
people like me and Werner Knoll are faced with two extremes -- yours
(which actually deserves the label "Holocaust Lobby") and radical
Revisionism's.

At the very same time you and your ilk seek to suppress the truth
about why we turn to Rev, some of those who run radical Revisionism
(Carto, Mark Weber, Hans Schmidt) understand *very well* the needs of
people like me, Werner Knoll, hundreds of thousands of American and
Canadian Germans to include Ernst Zu"ndel. And they meet our needs and
lure us into Revisionism (Zu"ndel was so lured in Toronto years ago)
with these met needs. Once there, an effort is on to lure us into
hard-core Jew-hating circles (they so lured Zu"ndel).

With me, all the further they got me was Revisionism. The "Holocaust
Lobby" then did much to drive me towards hard-core Nazism. It is only
to my credit I did not go. Don't say if I resisted anybody could. I am
made of some pretty tough stuff. If most people, including Ken, were
subjected to what "the Holocaust Lobby" subjected me to since 1990
when I first "came out," they would be neo-Nazis. Like I said, this
included Ken. I will not say all the things they put me through here.
Maybe I will publicly say it another time or in another venue and
maybe I will not.

With Werner, I cannot tell from just the few posts I read if he had
been lured as far as actually into Revisionism or not. But I can see
that he is "at risk." But Ken, with your posts, you are increasing the
risk. "At risk" does not mean "evil" either, Ken. Do not blame the
victims. We too are victims and survivors of the Shoah.

And I myself am also a victim from a Jewish point of view, Ken. But
you were so busy trashing me the ways the Germans part of my heritage
made me 'at risk' that you never even let me tell you I am also Jewish
and very much like a Hidden Child first generation Jewish Shoah
survivor and very much like a Second Generation Jewish Shoah survivor.
It is your own prejudice which did not let you see THESE traits in me,
Ken. That plus the fact you are a Goy. The JEWISH rage in me never
spoken about a huge portion of my people cut off, my JEWISH mourning,
you never heard. Had I gotten a different e-mail account and showed
you the Jewish rage and mourning within me, you would have liked that
other persona, huh, Ken.

But stuff like this (stated before the above paragraph) Ken, you do
not want to hear because according to your preconceived notions, we
START OUT AS hard-core Jew-haters and then pretend to be like normal
people to assimilate out and infiltrate normal society to inject our
poison into it with our "tricks of the deniers." This is actually true
for some people who *claim* to be Revisionists such as Willis Carto.
But for many of us, the exact percentage I do not know due to lack of
formal academic studies I would like to see done, the truth is just
the opposite of what you presuppose.

Lots of people start off with a pre-conceived notion, Ken, including
myself. But real scholars and real researchers and real advocates do
not selectively cleave to or selectively ignore new information that
confirms or denies respectively our preconceived notions and initial
hypotheses. (If you are such a great and wonderful real researcher and
educator of the Shoah, Ken, then how come you did not last very long
on the academic holocaus mailing list on a server at the University of
Illinois at Chicago (UIC), where many real Shoah scholars and many
real Shoah survivors participated? (The list is now called 
and is on a different server.) Either you got unsubscribed by the
owners or you unsubscribed yourself in disgust that that real Shoah
scholarship forum did not gobble up your polemics.

But you refuse to see many of the critical points I make in this post.
You have seen most of them in the 1991 to 1997 timespan (with a gap)
many times, so you have had opportunity to consider them. And due to
your refusal, you actually drive more people into Revisionism or
deeper into Revisionism or into hard-core Jew-hatred with the very
efforts you expend to "combat the Holocast deniers/neo-Nazis."

Such is a travesty. But such is also reality. People like you are part
of the real world we all have to deal with.

Cecelia Plechinger






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"Doc Tavish"  wrote in message
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>
> On 26-Feb-2000, jg_brown@deja.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:
>
> > In article <9NPt4.72224$ox5.19094016@tw11.nn.bcandid.com>, "Gutless
Donnie
> > Ellis" , posting under the forged ID "John Morris",
wrote:
> >
> > >I chatted with the Doc just a few days ago. He is doing well after his
> > >hospitalization. His health is his first issue.
>
> My health is my only priority!
>
> > One liar vouching for another -- no surprise there, Gutless.
>
> What Ellis said is true and it is YOU who is the liar! In fact I'll be
back in the hospital
> again this coming week! Care to deny this? I have been on disability now
for six
> months too! Care to deny this? I have been to many medical specialists and
they
> are narrowing down their diagnosis. Don't expect me back (to USENET)
anytime soon
> but when I do come back it will be as a very strong presence.
>
> The harassment I've been receiving on my telephone has not helped and I
have doctors
> that will testify that my condition is/was  NOT helped by this brand of
harassment. Police records now exist and some "criminal elements" have been
caught.
>
> What I have been subjected to is also known as "wreckless endangerment" in
legalese
> and those responsible are going to pay. All will be done within the proper
legal framework
> of course.
>
> Be careful who you call a liar without all the facts Jeffrey. Ellis told
you straight about
> our correspondence.
>
> Did BIGFOOT finally respond to complaints that you spam and use their
facility as an
> e-mail "drop"?
>
> Doc Tavish
>

DOC, DON'T LET A CHILD MOLESTING COCKSUCKER LIKE JEFFERY GET YOU DOWN.
BIGFOOT GOT ENOUGH OF HIS BULLSHIT AND CANNED HIS FAGGOT ASS.




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"Philip Mathews"  wrote in message
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>
> Now come on Davey, your full of opinions on many things.  You say you
doubt the
> Holocaust, so tell us what it is you doubt?
>
> Philip Mathews
>
SHUT THE FUCK UP PHILIP




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"NAZI WHORE Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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> In article ,
> doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com wrote:
>
> Welcome back, Mr. Bradbury.
>
> Can you say "Bench Warrant?"
>
> Sara
>

THERE IS NO BENCH WARRANT. GO TELL ANOTHER STUPID LIE.




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"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
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>
> Unbelievable, isn't it, Steve?
>
> Dr. Michael has become the Usenet equivalent of a drooling slack-jawed
idiot.
>
> Oh. He was one before, wasn't he?
>
> Sara
>
THAT REALLY CARRIES WEIGHT COMING FROM A DOG FUCKER LIKE YOURSELF.

YOU'RE NOTHING BUT NET TRASH




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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Yes, indeedy, he was.  It's a prerequisite for membership in the BNP.
>
> Steve
>
>
STEVE IS A MEMBER OF NAMBLA




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"William Daffer"  wrote in message
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>   Because you are detestable.
>
> William
>
> - --
AND YOU SIR ARE A COCKSUCKER




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"CHICKEN HAWK Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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> Run, coward, run!
>
>
> JGB
>

RUN CHILDREN RUN




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"steve wolk"  wrote in message
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>
>
>
> You can call her whatever you want.  You can even hire a PI to learn her
> address and phone number so you can publish it on the web.  After all,
> it seems that you are above reproach and a candidate for sainthood - in
> your own mind.
>
> Steve

NO NEED TO HIRE A PI. HERE IT IS.

SARA SALZMAN
[Street address removed during archiving. knm, 2000/02/28]
[City/State removed during archiving. knm, 2000/02/28]
[Phone Number removed during archiving. knm, 2000/02/28]





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"Fergus McClelland"  wrote in message
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> "John Morris"  wrote:
>
> >Are you a homosexual?
>
> Defamatory forgery. Stop it.
> >
>
SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOT




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"David E Michael"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Buck Turgidson wrote:
>
> > Ed Kadach wrote:
> >
> > > David E Michael wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ed Kadach wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Sara Salzman wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In article , "John
Morris"
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >"Ed Kadach"  wrote in message
> > > > > > >news:38B7423A.1BBD@connect.ab.ca...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Hey, maybe that is why David is so peeved at me. Afterall,
John and
> > > > > > >> I both live in Edmonton, I live about 5 min. away from the
University
> > > > > > >> area and perhaps he thought that Bill G. or myself would
indulge
> > > > > > >> him.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > > >> Ed Kadach
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >You and Gord are both shit eating fags. So what else is new?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mr. Kadach:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm sorry to see you are now on Don Ellis' "shit" list. Isn't it
amazing
> > > > > > what happens when one disagrees with the WPRs?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sara
> > > > >
> > > > > It doesn't matter to me. Contrary to what has been said
> > > > > about me in the past I have absolutely no interest in the
> > > > > WPRs movement and never really have. In fact, they have no
> > > > > use for Identity believers. We are racialists and not racists
> > > > > as they are. I know that Philip and Steve will disagree with
> > > > > that statement but so be it.
> > > > > I believe it to be a matter of attitude. Racists actively revile
> > > > > other races. The difference is that a racialist, be he white,
black
> > > > > or mongoloid is 'for' his own race while racists, black, white or
> > > > > mongoloid are AGAINST other races.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Ed Kadach
> > > >
> > > > That, of course, is another lie from Slimey Eddie. The issue is not
'racism'
> > > > versus 'racialism'. I have always stated that my nationalism is
based on love
> > > > of race and nation, not hatred of other races and nations. The real
issue that
> > > > Slimey Eddie doesn't want to face is that he is a treacherous piece
of slime
> > > > that sucks up to Nizkooks and stabs ordinary white people in the
back.
> > > >
> > >
> > > > David
> > >
> > > Let's make the following assumption: John Morris' supervisor
> > > is a white man. Did you, David, not stab an innocent, ordinary
> > > white man in the back for absolutely no reason at all?
> >
> > Good one, Ed.
> >
> > Well, David? Can you answer the question without whipping out your usual
deranged
> > dodges?
> >
> > -- --Dep
> >
> > "Always tell the truth. It's the    §  "Truth is just...truth. You can't
> >   easiest thing to remember."      §  have opinions about truth."
> >                    --David Mamet                          --Peter
Schickele
> >
> > Like short-haired women? Snotty comments? Penguins?
> > http://members.aol.com/deppitybob/shlu/PAGEONE.html
>
> Not for you, you lying, hypocritical scumbag COCKSUCKER
>
> David
>
> On 5 February 2000 William Daffer wrote: 'total honesty isn't required'.
>
> On 21 November 1998 Scot Murphy wrote: 'Yes, these are newsgroups I lurked
> through--though never contributed to'.
>
> On 30 January 2000 Michael Ragland wrote: 'I must admit I have at times
done
> revisionist postings to confuse others and help the anti-revisionist side.
How so,
> well I've stated the Nazis killed millions of Jews but Hitler didn't know
about it! I
> realize that by acknowledging the Nazis killed millions of Jew, even if I
have
> demonstrated there is no proof Hitler knew about the extermination, I have
caused some
> damage to revisionists.'
>
> On 8 February 2000 Michael Ragland wrote: 'Sometimes telling half-truths,
white lies,
> etc. is important for self-preservation and to achieve certain ends.'
>
>
>
>
>
>




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"Steven Mock"  wrote in message
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> Buck Turgidson wrote:
>
> > Okay now, joke's over. I dunno WHAT you and David Michael have cooked up
between
> > yourselves, but it's just too plain that you've got SOMETHING going on.
I mean, Michael
> > couldn't possibly have gone THIS full goose bozo, could he?
>
> Here in Canada, the goose is considered to be a very graceful and
dignified bird, and the
> Bozo are an African tribe with a proud and civilized history.  I do not
appreciate your
> associating either of them with the subterranean piece of snail slime
known as David
> Michael.
>
> Steve Mock
>
>
CANADA THE HOME OF HOMOSEXUALS. AMERICA SHOULD NUKE THE GOD DAMN NASTY
COUNTRY. GO FUCK YOUR GOOSE STEVE




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"David E Michael"  wrote in message
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>
>
> Fergus McClelland wrote:
>
> > catamont@concentric.net (Sara Salzman) wrote:
> >
> > >In article <0OVt4.72897$ox5.19316609@tw11.nn.bcandid.com>, "John
Morris"
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>"Sara Salzman"  wrote in message
> > >>news:catamont-2602000740320001@ts017d15.den-co.concentric.net...
> > >>> In article ,Don Ellis,
a
> > >>> slimy, cowardly piece of shit presenting to be  "John Morris"
> > >>>  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> [more homoerotic spam]
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> In article <85ir3802i9m@news2.newsguy.com>,
doc_tavish@NOSPAMmy-deja.com
> > >>wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Calling me a "nazi-boy" is as much of defamation as you can make.
> > >>> As for FACTS- I have what I need. You can count on it "Fatbroad".
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>Sara stop Stalking me.
> > >
> > >Ellis, stop forging.
> > >
> > >And while you're at it, find another newsgroups to torment. This one
isn't
> > >interested.
> > >
> > >Sara
> >
> > Agreed.
>
> Aw come on . . . this guy's got a better sense of humour than the whole
bunch of
> Nizkooks added together.
>
> David
>
> On 5 February 2000 William Daffer wrote: 'total honesty isn't required'.
>
> On 21 November 1998 Scot Murphy wrote: 'Yes, these are newsgroups I lurked
> through--though never contributed to'.
>
> On 30 January 2000 Michael Ragland wrote: 'I must admit I have at times
done
> revisionist postings to confuse others and help the anti-revisionist side.
How
> so, well I've stated the Nazis killed millions of Jews but Hitler didn't
know
> about it! I realize that by acknowledging the Nazis killed millions of
Jew, even
> if I have demonstrated there is no proof Hitler knew about the
extermination, I
> have caused some damage to revisionists.'
>
> On 8 February 2000 Michael Ragland wrote: 'Sometimes telling half-truths,
white
> lies, etc. is important for self-preservation and to achieve certain
ends.'
>
>
THESE MCVAY MOTHERFUCKERS CAN DISH IT OUT BUT CAN'T TAKE IT VERY WELL. I
RULE ALT.REVISIONISM




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"Buck Turgidson"  wrote in message
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>
> You know, I don't even have to match you move for move anymore, David. I
don't have to
> produce counter-examples, quote damaging statements, reveal your past
indiscretions.
> You have done a marvelous job, all on your own, of tearing apart any
reputation you
> may have had, from peak to foundation.
>
> The most fun part is, you still haven't realized it. You're left with
neither ally nor
> clue. Say good night, David.
>
>
> -- --Dep

DAVID SAY YOU'RE A FAGGOT AND THEY WILL LOVE YOU.




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"Buck Turgidson"  wrote in message
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> Sara Salzman wrote:
>
> > In article <38B4A15C.7B6E@connect.ab.ca>, eddiek@connect.ab.ca wrote:
> >
> > >John Morris wrote:
> > >>
> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > >> Hash: SHA1
> > >>
> > >> In  in
> > >> alt.revisionism, on Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:50:32 GMT, Orac
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >In article <38B3B96E.D39B8002@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
> > >> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >>I disagree. Mr Morris has posted highly defamatory material about
> > >> >>me in the  past. In the post to which I was replying he subjected
> > >> >>me to a clear-cut case  of abuse, telling me to 'f*** off'. Others
> > >> >>have also been the victim of his  actions. In the past Mr Morris
> > >> >>has posted my personal details to this  newsgroup. Under the
> > >> >>circumstances it is entirely appropriate that his victims  in this
> > >> >>newsgroup should be made aware of the identity of the individual,
> > >> >>Dr  Reimer of the Department of English, University of Alberta, to
> > >> >>whom they can  complain about this abuse of university computer
> > >> >>facilities.
> > >>
> > >> >I don't believe your explanation for a second.
> > >>
> > >> Neither does he.
> > >>
> > >> > If you truly believe that, then
> > >> >why haven't YOU contacted him YOURSELF?
> > >>
> > >> Because he is a coward.  He has never had the guts to attack me
> > >> directly.  He has stalked Scot Murphy, Mike Curtis, Chuck Ferree,
> > >> Yale Edeiken, and to a lesser extent William Daffer and Michael
> > >> Ragland through his .sig.  But never me.
> > >>
> > >> Even now he won't attack me directly by filing a complaint with
> > >> abuse@ualberta.ca.  Instead he posts the *home* telephone of my
> > >> academic supervisor, an innocent third party, in the hopes that
> > >> someone as vicious as he is will call and cause me trouble.  And he
> > >> knows damned well that my supervisor has nothing to do with abuse
> > >> complaints.  He knows damed well that the appropriate channel for a
> > >> complaint is abuse@ualberta.ca.
> > >>
> > >> I hope Nazihunter is taking notes.  *He* opened the door on this kind
> > >> of tactic, and David's current manic episode is no different from
> > >> what Nazihunter does to Ed Kadach and Anthony Sabatini and many
> > >> others.
> > >>
> > >> > If you're so upset at his so-called
> > >> >"abuse" of university computer facilities directed at you, why
> > >> >haven't YOU  picked  up the phone and given him a call? You're the
> > >> >one who thinks he's being  wronged; you should be the one to
> > >> >complain.
> > >>
> > >> Precisely.  He knows he has no legitimate complaint.  So he takes the
> > >> coward's way out and attacks me through an innocent third party.
> > >>
> > >> > You have the address and the phone
> > >> >number. If you think a trans-Atlantic call is too expensive, there's
> > >> >always  paper and pen or e-mail. But you haven't complained to him
> > >> >yourself, have you?  Oh, no, you'd prefer to post his supervisor's
> > >> >phone number in order to try to  intimidate him to silence, rather
> > >> >than risk being dismissed as a crank for  complaining yourself
> > >> >first, wouldn't you? How transparent.
> > >>
> > >> Yes, very transparent.  That's the kind of infantile bully he is.  He
> > >> invades my privacy and threatens me in my private life.  And why?  I
> > >> guess because I haven't crumbled under the ceaseless torrent of his
> > >> abuse.  Nor am I likely to.  I've been called worse things by worse
> > >> people than him.
> > >
> > >
> > >For the life of me I can't understand why David felt it
> > >necessary to infringe upon your privacy and that of a
> > >man that isn't even involved in the sordid affairs of
> > >this n.g.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Ed Kadach
> >
> > Mr. Kadach:
> >
> > I must say I'm impressed, and I appreciate your comments.
> >
> > We may disagree on many other things, but in this, you have my respect.
> >
> > Sara
>
> I am behind Sara in this 100%. I know we haven't gotten you away  from the
Dark
> Side yet ;D, but it's most heartening to hear you say the right thing
succinctly.
>
> My question is this, Ed: if he doesn't listen to you, who *will* he listen
to?
>
>
>
> -- --Dep
>
RESPECT FROM A FAG MEANS NOTHING




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"Orac"  wrote in message
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> In article <38B4A15C.7B6E@connect.ab.ca>, eddiek@connect.ab.ca wrote:
>
> >For the life of me I can't understand why David felt it
> >necessary to infringe upon your privacy and that of a
> >man that isn't even involved in the sordid affairs of
> >this n.g.
>
> I can't either, Ed. Dr. Michael has now sunk to the level of Nazihunter,
in my
> book. In fact, he's sunk lower, because he set the precedent of involving
an
> innocent third party and subjecting that person to potential harassment. I
could
> be wrong, but I don't recall that even Nazihunter did that.
>
> --
> Orac

NO ONE CAN STOOP AS LOW AS A COCKSUCKER LIKE YOU




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From: "steve wolk" 
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"Orac"  wrote in message
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> In article <38B4C740.5F7B6EA1@erols.com>, steve wolk 
wrote:
>
> >David E Michael wrote:
>
> >> Others have also been the victim of his actions. In the past Mr Morris
has
> >> posted my personal details to this newsgroup. Under the circumstances
it is
> >> entirely appropriate that his victims in this newsgroup should be made
aware
> >> of the identity of the individual, Dr Reimer of the Department of
English,
> >> University of Alberta, to whom they can complain about this abuse of
> >> university computer facilities.
> >
> >You are a coward and a sneak.  Nothing defamatory there.
>
> Perhaps Dr. Michaels can list specific instances where Mr. Morris has
"defamed"
> him, along with an explanation of why he thinks the posts were defamatory.
At
> the very least, it ought to be good for a laugh.
>
> --
> Orac

YOU'RE A FUNNY FAG ORAC




From comments@hatewatch.com Sun Feb 27 23:44:53 EST 2000
Article: 718649 of alt.revisionism
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From: "steve wolk" 
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"Orac"  wrote in message
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> In article <38B4CF15.484E@connect.ab.ca>, eddiek@connect.ab.ca wrote:
>
> >Apparently David isn't much of a researcher and while I'd
> >rather not call him the following, I find I must.
> >David, you are an outright liar.
>
> It must be particularly galling to David that he's managed to completely
> alienate even those who are supposedly on "his" side of the revisionism
debate.
>
> --
> Orac

SHOW PROOF COCKSUCKER




From comments@hatewatch.com Mon Feb 28 00:02:05 EST 2000
Article: 718650 of alt.revisionism
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From: "steve wolk" 
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"Buck Turgidson"  wrote in message
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> Ed Kadach wrote:
>
> > John Morris wrote:
> > >
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > In <38B4B8B7.FCAACA83@btinternet.com> in alt.revisionism, on Thu, 24
> > > Feb 2000 04:51:04 +0000, David E Michael
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > >Ed Kadach wrote:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > >> For your information that article you referred to
> > > >> was plainly a forgery and some anti-revisionists
> > > >> pointed that out at the time.  There has to my
> > > >> knowledge never, ever been a television show shown
> > > >> in the Edmonton area that dealt with the Kabbalah
> > > >> and cattle mutilation.
> > > >> As for your other accusations, I'll just let them
> > > >> slide by for the moment.
> > >
> > > >> Take care,
> > > >> Ed Kadach
> > >
> > > >Plainly a forgery, eh?
> > >
> > > Yup.  The header is nothing like his regular headers.
> > >
> > > > Now that's interesting seeing that the message ID ties in with
> > > >your ISP.
> > >
> > > That's not interesting at all.  A lot of ISPs simply use the e-mail
> > > address as part of the Message-ID: even if the e-mail has been
> > > munged.  For example:
> > >
> > >   Message-ID: <38B48083.ED96ACD@arthlink.nt.e.e>
> > >   From: David Gehrig 
> > >   Organization: International Zemblan Conspiracy, Inc.
> > >   X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
> > >   X-Accept-Language: en
> > >   MIME-Version: 1.0
> > >   Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
> > >   Subject: Re: An Appointment for David Michael
> > >
> > > There is no such ISP as arthlink.nt.e.e anywhere on the planet Earth,
> > > yet that is the ISP for the e-mail address and the Message-ID: in
> > > David Gehrig's headers.
> > >
> > > > And why should anyone want to forge a relatively harmless post
> > > > about the
> > > >dietary peculiarities of the Jewish faith?
> > >
> > > Hazing.  It's a hazing post.  Make fun of Ed by pretending he's
> > > really a Jew.  Which could even be funny if it weren't a forgery.
> > >
> > > > After all, if someone's going to forge a
> > > >post AND the message ID too (which requires a degree of technical
> > > >know how)
> > >
> > > How much technical know-how does it take to turn earthlink.net into
> > > arthlink.nt.e.e?
> > >
> > > Yeah, yeah.  For you, a two-year certificate program at Brunel.  I
> > > meant for the average person.
> > >
> > > BTW, any clues on why more and more message ids--like mine--are from
> > > @4ax.com when there is no such ISP?
> > >
> > > > then they
> > > >might at least put something really dramatic in it. And the style is
> > > >assuredly yours.
> > >
> > > >No, Mr K. I don't swallow it.
> > >
> > > Good.  I like it when you make yourself look like an idiot.  Saves me
> > > the bother.
> > >
> > > - --
> > >  John Morris                                
> > >  at University of Alberta  
> >
> > Apparently David isn't much of a researcher and while I'd
> > rather not call him the following, I find I must.
> > David, you are an outright liar.
> >
> > Regards to a liar,
> > Ed Kadach
>
> Well, Curdles?
>
> Is your ass scorched from all the bridges you've burnt behind you?
>
>
> -- --Dep
>

WELL, FAG BOY?

IS YOUR ASS HURTING FROM ALL THE DICKS YOU'VE TAKEN IN THE ASS.






From comments@hatewatch.com Mon Feb 28 00:02:05 EST 2000
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"David Gehrig"  wrote in message
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> Thanks for the laugh of the day, Dr. Michael. Your damage control
> spiral is turning tighter and tighter. Kadach a Nizkor lackey --
> ROTFL! You're having to dig mighty deep for your excuses. Let me
> know when you hit Australia.
>
> << snip >>
>
> @%<

YOU'RE RIGHT, MAYBE KADACH LIKES THE TASTE OF MCVAY'S DICK




From comments@hatewatch.com Mon Feb 28 00:02:07 EST 2000
Article: 718653 of alt.revisionism
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"COCKSUCKER Orac"  wrote in message
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>
> Pity poor David, as he isolates himself from even those who are normally
his
> allies. To him, if anyone who's normally on "his side" dares to criticize
him,
> that person must be a "Nizkor plant." David won't even entertain the
possibility
> that perhaps he has done something so reprehensible that even his
erstwhile
> allies want to distance themselves from it.
>
> --
> Orac

DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE ANYONE TAKES A FAG LIKE YOU SERIOUS? GO FUCK YOUR
DADDY ORAC




From comments@hatewatch.com Mon Feb 28 00:02:07 EST 2000
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"Orac"  wrote in message
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> In article <38B4D00A.9FE3EF44@btinternet.com>, David E Michael
>  wrote:
>
> >Ed Kadach wrote:
> >
> >> John Morris wrote:
>
> >> > But who is the victim here if someone acts on David's advice?  Me?
> >> > Nope.  For all David knows a six year old kid is going to pick up the
> >> > phone and there's going to be somebody like Nazihunter on the other
> >> > end.
> >>
> >> I agree. My own children picked up that phone on several
> >> occasions.
> >>
> >> > David says he has a beef with me.  He says I abuse my net privileges.
> >> >  But does he complain to my ISP?  Nope.  He hopes someone else will
> >> > attack me through a six year old kid.  Somebody else's kid.  Not even
> >> > my kid.  A completely innocent bystander.
> >> >
> >> > And I notice he's blown your cover, Agent Kadach.  Is this guy nuts
> >> > or what?
> >>
> >> He's nuts!
> >>
> >> Ed
> >
> >Ed Kadach shows where his true loyalties really lie.
>
> No, he shows that he has some common decency and you've just shown that
you
> don't.
>
> --
> Orac

NOTHING DECENT ABOUT BEING A COCKSUCKER




From comments@hatewatch.com Mon Feb 28 00:02:09 EST 2000
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"Orac"  wrote in message
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I was disappointed (and furious) too. >
> --
> Orac

GET KADASH TO SUCK YOUR DICK AGAIN, YOU'LL FEEL BETTER




From comments@hatewatch.com Mon Feb 28 00:02:09 EST 2000
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"CHICKEN HAWK Jeffrey G. Brown"  wrote in message
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>
> What other facts are needed, Cockroach Boy?
>
> JGB
>

YOU LOST YOUR BIGFOOT ACCOUNT BECAUSE YOU'RE A FUCKING LIAR.




From comments@hatewatch.com Mon Feb 28 00:02:10 EST 2000
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"Susan Cohen"  wrote in message
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> This is the measure of just how stupid and cowardly
> racists are.

SAME TACTICS USED BY THE FUCKING JEWS

Not only does this moron send me a foul-
> mouthed threat - without, of course, being brave enough
> to give me either a name or proper ISP -

SAME TACTICS USED BY THE FUCKING JEWS



but thinks that
> I'm as stupid as he is & will actually be afraid of someone
> who's on the other side of the entire ocean. What a loser.


SAME TACTICS USED BY THE FUCKING JEWS



> greenaum@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:42:45 -0500, in alt.fan.adolf-hitler you wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >H H wrote:
> > >
> > >> Mike Kalvatis, ORC  wrote in message
> > >> > Sims, who was Jewish
> > >
> > >No, sleazy little liar, he was not.
> > >
> > >Here's the URL with the truth.
> > >
> > >http://www.msnbc.com/news/373584.asp?0m=-327
> > >
> > >
> > >> Was he black to boot?
> > >>
> > >> That's wild -- In my entire life I've one ONE White guy named
> > Sims.  All the
> > >> rest were niggers.
> > >
> > >You're living proof that one doesn't have to be black to be one.
> >
> > Keep the fuck off of Usenet, you racial low-life.
> > I know where you live, I spent 4 weeks tracking you down.
> > As you type this, I am staying in a hotel not 4 blocks away from where
> > you are hiding.
> > Tomorrow night, I am coming to pay your pathetic existance a visit,
> > and I will crush your fucking 'face' into the floor.
> > I intend on using extreme violence against your unwanted trash.
> > Prepare to be hospitalized.
> > You're finished, cunt.


SAME TACTICS USED BY THE FUCKING JEWS





From comments@hatewatch.com Tue Feb 29 22:40:14 EST 2000
Article: 401961 of sci.skeptic
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From: "Don Ellis" 
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Subject: Andrew you're so full of hate. 
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"Andew Skolniick"  wrote in message
news:3899121B.11E9B3A9@stop.nazispam.mindspring.com...
>
> Wrong as usual.
>
> I don't know what you were betting, but you have nothing of interest to
me -- so keep
> whatever it was. I don't want either a trailer home or a 1982 Ford pickup
truck with
> Confederate flag upholstery and an old cloth for a gas cap. Even if you
own something else
> of value, I doubt it would ever be free of your smell. There is a reason
they don't sell
> fur coats made of skunk skins.
>
> You know, they burned Hitler's corpse with gasoline 55 years ago. But you
can still smell
> his stench right here on these two newsgroups. Some vile filth
unfortunately seems
> eternal.
>
> Andrew
>

Andrew you're so full of hate.




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BACK IT UP WITH SOME PROOF





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