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Subject: 4 Short Quotes to Ponder---->>>>
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Moses' first and most difficult task was convincing the Israelites
they were slaves.
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"What has happened to our country when those who believe in the
Constitution are called extremists? What has happened to our country when
those who speak the truth are called right-wing radicals, and what has
happened to our country when a combat veteran sleeps in a cardboard box
while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House?" 
                                 - Charles R. Duke, April, 1996 
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"  ...Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of those Ends
(Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness), it is the Right of the
People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its
Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as
to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness..." 
					Declaration of Independence, 1776.
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"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer
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From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Tue Jul  2 11:09:30 PDT 1996
Article: 252110 of alt.politics.clinton
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: DEMOS NEW LOWEST DEPTHS OF IMMORALITY-->>
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CLINTON campaign to SMEAR VINCE FOSTER's name by claiming he hired
Livingstone.	    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

	Democrats newest NO LIMITS of IMMORALITY.
	How do Mrs. Foster and family feel now that the Cannibals feed
	off of their own? 
	
	The Collection of Traitorous-Felonious-Hippy-Inept-Communists in
	the WHITE HOUSE take advantage of their OWN MURDERED
	CO-CONSPIRATOR. 

	Did Vince Foster also help Hillary with Health-Gate via spiritual
	"talks"?

	Who should "ask" Vince Foster who killed him? 
	Bob Dole or Hillary?
	"Goatbusters On-Parade" par John Carpenter.
							John

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"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine

	


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Tue Jul  2 17:46:10 PDT 1996
Article: 34851 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: DEMOS NEW LOWEST DEPTHS OF IMMORALITY-->>
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CLINTON campaign to SMEAR VINCE FOSTER's name by claiming he hired
Livingstone.	    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

	Democrats newest NO LIMITS of IMMORALITY.
	How do Mrs. Foster and family feel now that the Cannibals feed
	off of their own? 
	
	The Collection of Traitorous-Felonious-Hippy-Inept-Communists in
	the WHITE HOUSE take advantage of their OWN MURDERED
	CO-CONSPIRATOR. 

	Did Vince Foster also help Hillary with Health-Gate via spiritual
	"talks"?

	Who should "ask" Vince Foster who killed him? 
	Bob Dole or Hillary?
	"Goatbusters On-Parade" par John Carpenter.
							John

For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html
http://www.johnbirch.com/
http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/jbs/resource.html

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine

	


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Tue Jul  2 17:50:15 PDT 1996
Article: 63729 of alt.conspiracy
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: DEMOS NEW LOWEST DEPTHS OF IMMORALITY-->>
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CLINTON campaign to SMEAR VINCE FOSTER's name by claiming he hired
Livingstone.	    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

	Democrats newest NO LIMITS of IMMORALITY.
	How do Mrs. Foster and family feel now that the Cannibals feed
	off of their own? 
	
	The Collection of Traitorous-Felonious-Hippy-Inept-Communists in
	the WHITE HOUSE take advantage of their OWN MURDERED
	CO-CONSPIRATOR. 

	Did Vince Foster also help Hillary with Health-Gate via spiritual
	"talks"?

	Who should "ask" Vince Foster who killed him? 
	Bob Dole or Hillary?
	"Goatbusters On-Parade" par John Carpenter.
							John

For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html
http://www.johnbirch.com/
http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/jbs/resource.html

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine

	


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Tue Jul  2 17:50:17 PDT 1996
Article: 63749 of alt.conspiracy
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: CLINTONS: MASS MURDERERS? Ron Brownn and others--->>>
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Subject: Ron Brown's Body Lies A-Moulderin'...

But his truths are buried deep...

                WAS RON BROWN MURDERED?
   
 The following is from Christian Crusade Newspaper, P.O. Box 
    977, Tulsa, OK 74102, in its 44th year of publication. CCN can
    be E-mailed on America On Line as Christcrew, on Compuserve 
    at 72204,541, and via the Internet as Christcrew@aol.com .
    copyright 1996 Christian Crusade Newspaper.
    Permission is granted for this article to be used in newsletters, on 
    computer BBSs or other otherwise published, provided that 
    attribution to Christian Crusade Newspaper is included. 

        It was a politically timely death.
        Just as Bill Clinton's re-election campaign was swinging into 
full gear, just as Bob Dole emerged as the GOP  contender, just as the 
public was forgetting all the talk of Bill and Hillary's scandals, one of 
President Clinton's  biggest potential embarrassments was 
conveniently gone.
        Commerce Secretary Ron Brown had been surrounded by 
controversy since the day he first took office. The  former chairman 
of the Democratic Party had gotten the job as a political payback and 
was almost immediately  accused of taking bribes, selling his 
influence and investing in slum property to lessen his tax bills.
        Now, he was dead - killed in a suspicious plane crash in 
Croatia - and being hailed as a martyr, a national  hero, a fallen 
warrior, and a role model for inner-city children.
        It was just too convenient.
        Was he sacrificed?
        Given the list of Clinton associates who had met untimely deaths 
when they, too, embarrassed the President,  Brown's strange plane 
crash raises all sorts of red flags.
        Just consider this partial list of those affiliated with this
president 
who have somehow, mysteriously, met with  deadly misfortune:
        *       VINCENT FOSTER - highly suspicious suicide. This 
longtime Clinton friend and  White House staffer had detailed 
knowledge of Clintons' personal finances and was reportedly 
distraught  over discoveries of Clinton illegalities. He made a phone 
call to Hillary Clinton in Little Rock shortly before  his death.
        *       PAULA GROBER - died in a suspicious one-car accident 
with no witnesses. She had  been Clinton's speech interpreter for 
deaf. She had traveled extensively with Clinton from 1978 until her  
death.
        *       GARY JOHNSON - beaten up but lived. He had tapes of 
Clinton's visits with Gennifer  Flowers. Two thugs beat him up and 
stole the tapes.
        *       FEDERAL AGENTS CONWAY LEBLEU, TODD 
MCKEEHAN,  ROBERT WILLIAMS, STEVE WILLIS - all killed 
at the Branch Davidian compound raid  near Waco, Texas. These 
men, formerly assigned to protect Clinton, died under highly 
suspicious  circumstances. Video tape and other evidence indicates 
none died from guns fired by Davidians. Allegedly,  all died of 
gunshots to the left temple.
        *       JERRY PARKS - murdered by unknown assailant. He was 
the owner of a security firm  which Clinton had used in his election 
campaign. Parks had information about sexual affairs and drug  
parties Clinton allegedly attended. Parks had threatened to go public 
if Clinton did not pay $81,000  outstanding bill. Parks' home was 
broken into hours before his death and the only thing taken was the  
documentation on Clinton.
        *       LUTHER PARKS - gunned down in his car. He had been 
the head of Clinton's  guberntorial security team in Arkansas. His 
family says shortly before death, they were being followed by  
unknown people Parks was making a dossier on Clinton's allegedly 
illicit activities. After his death, the file  on Clinton was stolen in a 
break-in at his home.
        *       C. VICTOR RAISER II - died in unexplained plane crash. 
He was the national finance  co-chairman for Clinton's presidential 
campaign. DeeDee Meyers described Raisor as "major player" in the  
campaign. Six others died in the still-unexplained plane crash.
        *       PAUL TULLY - died under mysterious circumstances. He 
was the Democratic National  Commitee Political Director and was 
described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor."
        *       JON WALKER - killed when he fell or was pushed off of 
Lincoln Towers building. He  was investigating Whitewater.
        *       PAUL WILCHER - found dead on toilet in apartment. This 
Washington attorney was  investigating alleged drug oporations out 
of Mena, Arkansas, to which Clinton allegedly had ties. He was  
planning to produce a T.V. documentary on his findings.
        *       ED WILLEY - died of a gunshot wound. This Clinton 
fundraiser's death was ruled a  suicide, but no note was found and no 
motive was identified.
        *       DANNY CASOLARO - died with his wrists slit. He had 
been investigating Clinton  scandals and had warned his family that 
he was in danger. He told his family if he was found dead of  accident 
or suicide not to believe it.
        And now, how did Ron Brown die?
         His plane crashed into a hill in Croatia. Conveniently, it had no 
"black box" recording what happened. Nor  did it have safety 
equipment required on such planes - and at least one U.S. Army 
officer had been been relieved  of command for refusing to put Brown 
on the plane that eventually killed him.
        "The Air Force T-43A that crashed, killing Commerce Secretary 
Ron Brown and his party," writes Rowan  Scarborough in the 
Washington Times, "lacked a widely available modern navigational 
aid for landing in bad  weather, Pentagon officials said."
        Officers at the Pentagon, who asked not to be named, wondered 
why a passenger jet used exclusively to  transport such an important 
member of the Clinton cabinet did not yet have the device or even an 
advanced radar that  would have let pilots know that they had been 
drawn two miles off course, according to Scarborough.
        The plane, indeed, lacked voice and flight data recorders - so-
called "black boxes" - which could have  resolved many of the 
lingering questions surrounding the mysterious crash.
        "One of the most difficult questions faced by investigators of the 
jet crash in Croatia that killed Commerce  Secretary Ron Brown and 
everyone else on board is whether the pilots took unnecessary risks to 
deliver their VIP  passengers," asked the New York Times.
         "Going strictly by the book, the pilots on Wednesday's flight to 
Dubrovnik could have been justified in  turning back from their 
approach to Dubrovnik's airport: The weather that day has been 
called the worst in a decade,  the airport was not equipped with 
modern precision landing aids, and the mountainous coastal terrain is 
tricky."
        According to the Associated Press, the U.S. Air Force 
commander of the squadron responsible for the plane  that crashed 
with Brown aboard was relieved of his command just before the crash 
because he raised concerns  about Brown's flight and those of other 
VIPs.
        Lt. Col. James Albright lost command of the 76th Airlift 
Squadron, based at Ramstein Air Base in Germany,  just five days 
before the crash.
        The Stars and Stripes, the unofficial military newspaper 
published for U.S. forces in Germany, quotes an  unidentified Air 
Force pilot as saying Albright was fired because he told his superiors 
he would refuse to allow the  T-43 to fly in conditions he considered 
unsafe.
        The pilot, who spoke to The Stars and Stripes on condition of 
anonymity, said Albright objected to "pressure  from above" to allow 
flights in areas where ground-based, computerized navigation devices 
had been destroyed or  removed during the recent fighting. Albright 
was especially opposed to such flights during foul weather, the pilot  
said.
         Brig. Gen. William E. Stevens has confirmed that he relieved 
Albright of his command just days before  Brown's crash and 
reassigned him to a staff job, because Albright had repeatedly taken 
actions not cleared by his  superiors. He went out of his way to do his 
job right, in other words - and did not just blindly follow orders. He  
was upset that VIPs were being put on planes that were not safe and 
lacked critical equipment.
        He would not shut up.
        So, he was relieved of his command and given a desk job.
        Did Brown's plane really need the navigational equipment that 
was missing? His plane was a T-43A, the  military version of the 
Boeing 737. All commercial versions of the plane are required by law 
to have the gear, which  would have kept it from slamming into the 
hill, which is called Sveti Ivan, or Saint John near Dubrovnik.
        The plane was strangely off the approach path to the airport, 
witnesses said.
        Actually, the plane almost cleared the hill. The wreckage was 
found only 50 yards below its crest.
        "A number of inhabitants of the villages along the Adriatic coast 
between Dubrovnik and the Cilipi airport said  they heard or saw a 
plane passing low above them some two miles inland off the route 
that planes heading to  Dubrovnik aiport usually take," reported 
Reuters journalist Davor Huic. "A straight line connects the crash site 
and  three villages - Gornji Brgat, Srebreno and Plat - where 
witnesses accounts offered the first consistent, albeit  sketchy 
reconstruction of those few crucial minutes following the last radio 
communication with the control tower,  after which the plane 
disappeared from radar screens."
        Ana and Miho Duplica from the village of Plat probably were 
the last people to see the plane only seconds  before it slammed into 
the top of the hill rising steeply only a few hundred yards from their 
home.
        Alerted by an unusual noise that was louder than the thunder of 
the storm raging outside, they came out of  their house just in time to 
spot a giant jet coming out of the thick fog.
        "The plane appeared from the clouds like a ghost," said Ana 
Duplica. "We said to one another: 'This plane  must be lost, it won't 
fare well."'
        "I came out and saw the plane coming out of the fog and going 
back into it," said Miho Duplica. "It flew just  above our heads, very, 
very low."
        When it disappeared towards the hill it was flying at under 900 
feet, Miho Duplica said.
        The Duplicas said they heard a change in the sound of the 
plane's engine when it disappeared towards the hill,  as if the pilot 
had tried to climb above the 2,300-foot peak after it suddenly came 
into view.
        "After it disappeared in the fog we heard a loud noise as if he 
was taking off. The sound changed and then  nothing," said Miho 
Duplica.
        Down the road in the village of Srebreno, Anto Kristovic, the 
owner of a small cafe, said he remembered well  the strange noise that 
forced him and his brother out of the cellar.
        "The plane went roaring just over our heads, it made an 
incredible noise," Kristovic said.
        "The normal flight path is on the far side of that hill, past the 
church and straight on," he said, pointing to a  small white church on 
the top of a ridge between his house and the sea. "Instead it came 
overhead."
        "The engine sounded unusual," said Kristovic, who said he had 
never witnessed anything like the crash in 20  years of living in the 
vicinity of an international airport.
        To the west, in the village of Brgat Gornji, the Basics family 
were cleaning up their war-ravaged home they  had just returned to 
three weeks ago.
        "The plane flew right over us. It was much louder than usual. 
When the planes are landing at Cilipi airport,  they go much further 
out towards the sea," Luce Basic said.
        The fact that the houses of the three families and the crash site 
lie on a straight line that runs about two miles  inland from the normal 
approach path indicated the plane may have veered off course well 
before slamming into the  hill.
        Why the pilot kept to the wrong course if he passed by at least 
two beacons, one at the level of Brgat and the  other off shore from 
Plat, remains to be explained by investigators.
        Military pilots said the T-43A pilot ordinarily would been 
relying on his global positioning system (GPS) that  is now relied on 
by many military pilots and is required on commercial airliners. The 
GPS could have pinpointed  the runway at Dubrovnik despite a 
blinding rainstorm as the plane approached the airport. GPS receives 
a satellite  signal that gives the plane's exact location.
        Instead, the pilots, Capt. Ashley Davis, the commanding officer, 
and Capt. Tim Schafer, had to rely on a  1950s system, a 
nondirectional beacon , that provides little information to the pilot 
and can be distorted by extreme  weather. GPS is especially critical in 
approaching airports like Dubrovnik that lack sophisticated 
equipment,  reported Reuters.
         So, who is to blame?
        Defense Secretary William Perry told the Associated Press, "It 
was a classic sort of an accident that good  instrumentation should be 
able to prevent." A Pentagon pilot quoted anonymously by AP 
disagreed. "Somebody  should ask the question why did you have a 
plane stationed in Germany and used for that purpose with the least  
ability to fly?"
        But why would anybody go to such trouble to get rid of a 
Clinton administration cabinet member? Did Ron  Brown pose any 
potential embarrassment to the Clinton re-election campaign?
        "Bill Clinton came to Washington promising there would be no 
stain on his administration - it would be free  of graft, corruption or 
any hint of wrongdoing," notes Jamie Dettmer, writing in the 
conservative journal Insight on  the News. "The highest ethical 
standards would be applied rigorously. Nominees for Cabinet posts 
would be  expected to meet stringent codes of conduct, boasted the 
president's then-transition director Warren Christopher.  There would 
be no Iran-Contra or Watergate scandals to poison the Clinton 
presidency. Four days after the election  the president-elect promised 
'the most ethical administration in the history of the Republic.'"
        However, even before Brown entered office, an air of suspicion 
hung over his business affairs.
         "A noted wheeler-dealer whose networking skills were more 
impressive even than Clinton's," writes  Dettmer, "Brown had done 
little to dispel the general wariness about his commercial practices. In 
a letter to Attorney  General Janet Reno, the chairman of the House 
Government Reform and Oversight Committee, Pennsylvania  
Republican Bill Clinger, complained, "For over a year, in response to 
direct questions posed to the secretary, I have  received inaccurate, 
incomplete and misleading responses, or no response at all" from 
Brown.
        In one instance, Brown failed to meet a request from the 
committee for information about ties between his  immediate family 
members and Corridor Broadcasting Corp, which is owned by Texas 
entrepreneur Nolanda  Hill. According to Clinger, Brown's daughter, 
Tracy, and his daughter-in-law, Tamara, both received money  from 
Corridor, a firm that defaulted on almost $40 million in loans held by 
government agencies and is itself the  subject of an inquiry by the 
Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
        At the center of the complicated allegations against Brown was 
the charge that he hid from Congress  $400,000 he received from 
another Hill firm, the First International Communications Corp. 
According to Brown,  there was no obligation on him to declare the 
$400,000 since it came in several different checks throughout 1993  
and was a payment by Hill for his stake in First International.
         Clinger claims Brown failed to release "any information to 
support his contention that these payments were  part of divestiture" 
transactions. Brown, in fact, had invested no money in the company 
when he became a partner  in 1990.
        Brown's role at First International was to provide political 
connections. He gave Hill an entree to the highest  circles of 
Democratic politics. Through Brown, then chairman of the 
Democratic National Committee, Hill was  appointed to serve on the 
party's convention-site selection committee. Did Brown's help stop 
there, before he  entered office? Clinger's aides have been trying to 
discover who secured an invitation for Hill to a select White  House 
lunch in the summer of 1993. Hill was the only guest at the lunch 
with the president who was not a CEO of  a company listed among 
the Fortune 500. Congressional investigators also are intrigued by a 
memo Hill wrote on  May 13,1993, asking Brown to arrange a 
meeting with Commerce officials for a business associate, John 
Foster.
         Clinton had tried to make a case that the press and Congress 
should not concern itself about any alleged  wrongdoing committed 
by Cabinet members prior to entering government.
        That has been one of his and Hillary's biggest defenses in the 
Whitewater case.
         However, charges were surfacing that Brown had been guilty of 
impropriety while in office.
        In particular, he failed to disclose his financial stake in another

business, Kellee Communications Inc.  Congressman Clinger claims 
that Brown's connections with Kellee posed a conflict of interest with 
his role as  Commerce secretary.
         Kellee has major pay-phone contracts with AT&T.
        Brown has helped AT&T win telecommunications-equipment 
deals overseas.
        The allegation is that as Secretary of Commerce, Brown was still 
lining his pockets, making deals that made  millions of dollars for him 
and his family
        In documents sent to Reno by Clinger, he says that as Commerce 
secretary, Brown "invited AT&T  executives to accompany him to 
Saudi Arabia. This trip, coupled with other efforts by the secretary, 
culminated in  the signing of a $4 billion contract for AT&T.... 
Although the Saudi contract may not have had a direct financial  
impact on Kellee, it resulted in increased good will toward the 
secretary, and presumably, Kellee Communications.  This enhanced 
good will was an important factor enabling Kellee to expand its 
AT&T joint venture."
        Clinger says Brown was corrupt.
        He rejects the liberals' claim that Republicans were being 
overzealous in their pursuit of Brown. "I don't think  we are 
overdoing things at all," he says. "There is ample justification for our 
investigations and there is a lot to be  looked at. In Brown's case, 
there are strong indications that abuses happened after he became 
Commerce  secretary."
        The Clinton administration has had its embarrassments.
        "Hardly a month has passed without some new controversy 
rocking the administration," notes Dettmer.  "First it was the travel 
office scandal, followed by Whitewater and the incidental departures 
>from  government of  White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum, 
Deputy Treasury Secretary Roger Altman and Associate Attorney  
General Webster Hubbell."
        Hubbell went to jail.
        "In all, five probes are underway," notes Dettmer. "Three are 
into the financial affairs of Commerce Secretary  Ron Brown who, 
until recently, had been slated by the president to head his re-election 
bid. Former Agriculture  Secretary Mike Espy, who contributed 
greatly to rallying the black vote for Clinton in Southern states during 
the  1992 campaign, is the subject of an ongoing independent-counsel 
inquiry."
        Transportation Secretary Federico Pena is accused of using his 
influence to help his former investment firm  secure a Los An 
contract. Former HEW Secretary Henry Cisneros understated the 
payments he made over a three- year period to his former mistress, 
Linda Medlar, a political fund-raiser. Cisneros told FBI agents 
checking his  background before Senate confirmation hearings that he 
gave money to Medlar from 1990 to 1992 as  compensation for her 
difficulty in securing a job after their affair had become public. He 
said he never paid her more  than $2,500 at a time and that yearly 
totals never exceeded $10,000. In fact, several of his payments 
exceeded  $2,500, and the yearly totals were between $42,000 and 
$60,000. In all, he gave Medlar over $200,000.
        Espy, Cisneros and Pena dutifully resigned.
        Clinton was able to wash his hands of them.
        But Brown would not.
        He refused to go.
        With the re-election campaign in full-swing now, there was vast 
potential for him to embarrass the Clintons.  And so, somehow, he 
has died in a plane crash. All over the nation, flags are at half-mast. 
He is being declared a  national hero and a role model for small 
children.
        That's a lot better for Bill Clinton than if a sitting cabinet 
member were jailed.
        An unrelenting, yearlong probe by Clinger had led to an 
extensive array of detailed allegations against Brown,  including 
charges that he violated federal laws by filing inaccurate financial 
disclosure reports that failed to indicate  income received from First 
International and that that Brown had illegally supplemented his 
federal salary, engaged  in potential conflicts of interest and provided 
false information to Congress about his financial circumstances.
        What about the accusations that he accepted bribes from the 
North Vietnamese Communists - in order to get  the Clinton 
administration to drop its trade embargo?
         A Vietnamese-American, Binh T. Ly, who is living in Florida, 
said Brown accepted $700,000 to help lift the  U.S. trade embargo 
against Vietnam. Then days later, he told the press the FBI ''told me 
that I should take serious  precautions because my life is in danger.'
         Ly told a news conference that the FBI told him ''that my life 
has been threatened.''
        Ly said Nguyen Van Hao, a former Communist Vietnamese 
government official who was his business  partner, had arranged a 
$700,000 payment to Brown. Ly passed an FBI polygraph test, but 
acknowledged that he  had no evidence to support his allegations.
        Was there anything to the case?
        According to the media watchdog group Accuracy in Media, 
Republicans were about to charge Brown with  perjury in his denials 
of accepting the North Vietnamese bribes.
        "Congressional Republicans are raising the specter that 
Commerce Secretary Ron Brown committed perjury  in his oft-
changed explanations about a purported $700,000 bribe offer from a 
Vietnamese businessman," reported  AIM. "In a startling new 
development, a person described as 'close to the National Security 
Council' told  Congressmen that Brown lied when he denied that he 
or his staff were involved in the Clinton Administration's  easing of 
trade restrictions on Vietnam.
        "This is in direct conflict with what Brown told the House 
Foreign Affairs Committee. Brown made clear at  the outset of the 
hearing that he did not intend to discuss allegations by Ly Thanh 
Binh, a Vietnamese-American  businessman from Florida, that he was 
offered $700,000 to help in normalizing U.S.-Vietnam economic 
relations.  The man on whose behalf the overture was supposedly 
made was Nguyen Van Hao, an official of the communist  
government."
        Brown told the Committee, "I am not going to answer any 
questions bearing on the grand jury investigation  in Miami. All I am 
here to talk about today are trade issues."
        Rep. Dan Burton (R.-Ind.) then asked Brown: "Can you tell us, 
Mr. Brown, about any involvement that  you or your staff may have 
had in relation to trade negotiations or the possibility of trade 
negotiations with the  Republic of Vietnam?"
        "I had no involvement with those, Congressman," Brown 
replied.
        Burton then repeated his question in tighter form, asking whether 
any of Brown's subordinates participated in  talks. Again, Brown 
gave a categorical denial, saying, "I answered that in the negative, 
Congressman." He  continued that "we're not going to have internal 
discussions about internal policy formation."
        Soon after Brown's testimony, Burton received a visit from a 
man he described as "a fellow who is close to  the National Security 
Council" who "thought this issue needed to be clarified and 
illuminated."
        Burton gave this account in a floor speech:
        On June 14, a "notice of principals meeting" was sent to 
secretaries of the various departments involved in  international trade, 
setting a "secretaries meeting" for 2 P. M. on June 16 in the White 
House situation room to  discuss a Vietnam options paper.
        As the source told Burton, there are three levels of NSC 
meetings: the "experts' level," at the bottom rung,  where technical 
issues are discussed; the "deputies' level," where issues are clarified; 
and the "principals' level,"  which includes the secretaries of 
departments.
        The June 16 "principals' level" meeting to which Brown was 
invited involved an options paper on Vietnam  which had been 
discussed at the lower two levels. The NSC source told Burton that 
Brown would have been  briefed on the options paper prior to the 
June 16 meeting.
        In any event, the secretaries had two options before them when 
they gathered at the White House.
        According to Burton, "Option 1-A was to allow international 
financial initiatives, but to ease the embargo, to  start the racheting 
down of the embargo, so we could start normalizing relations with 
Vietnam. The majority of  those at the National Security Council 
approved that, but not the Department of Commerce.
        "The Department of Commerce supported Option No. 2 [which 
was to] lift the block on international financial  institutions, and to 
totally, completely, lift the embargo on Vietnam.
        "And do you know who pushed this the hardest? The 
Department of Commerce. Mr. Brown said he didn't  know anything 
about it, he said he never discussed it with anybody in his department, 
and yet at this deputies'  meeting his department was pushing harder, 
almost totally by itself, than anybody else to completely remove that  
embargo with Vietnam."
        The Indiana Republican's staff alerted Congressional reporters 
about the content of the speech, which was  seen on C- SPAN and 
printed in the Congressional Record. But the media ignored Burton's 
explosive revelations  - particularly his charges that Brown's 
conflicting answers on Vietnam put the Clinton Administration in 
jeopardy  of miring itself in scandal.
        "This could be another Watergate, or worse," Burton declared. 
"It stinks to high heaven."
        Burton noted that Brown's story about the Binh allegations has 
changed several times on significant points:
        * A spokesman for Brown denied that the Democratic politician 
had ever met Hao, a denial which Brown  personally gave to several 
Washington reporters in the summer. Then, however, Brown admitted 
having met with  Hao three times, including having dinner with him, 
giving him a tour of the Commerce Department, and sending  him a 
Christmas card.
        * Brown, both personally and through a spokesman, at first 
denied having read a letter Hao sent to Saigon  outlining a discussion 
he held with Brown about the $700,000 fee. But as Burton pointed 
out, Brown later said,  "'Yes, I believe I did read the letter from some 
government official over there.'" Burton continued, "It was the  
Prime Minister of Vietnam. So he has been caught in two or three 
falsehoods already."
        Based on his interviews with Binh, Burton also gave fresh 
details of the deal Brown allegedly tried to make  with the 
Vietnamese. He said, "One of these items, according to Mr. Ly [Binh] 
was that Mr. Brown would have  exclusive contractual rights to 
American businesses that went over there from the Vietnamese side.
        "In other words, he was to get a cut of the 100 or 150 American 
businesses that he would take into Vietnam,  and he would be in 
essence, the beneficiary of any profit made by the Vietnamese 
government, or at least a  percentage of that.
        "In addition, Mr. Ly [Binh] indicated there was going to be huge 
oil-drilling exploration taking place, and that  Vietnam had the third-
largest oil reserves in the world...and that Mr. Brown was going to get 
royalties off of all the  oil that was sold by the Vietnamese 
Government to the United States, and other entities."
        According to Burton, Binh protested such lucrative fees being 
given to Brown and tried to pull back from the  deal. Whereupon, he 
said, Hao admonished him to be quiet, and he would also be given a 
percentage of any  profits. Later, a concerned Binh spoke with a 
friend in Louisiana, a father figure, who told him, "You ought to get  
out of that, because it is corrupt and a lot of people could go to jail."
        At this point Binh broke with Hao and began talking with the 
FBI, the media and Congressional staff  members.
        Then there were the charges that Brown was a slumlord - also 
very embarrassing to the Democrats and to  Clinton.
         "It has been argued in this age of contemporary politics that the 
Republican Party is the party for the wealthy,"  wrote Herb London in 
the conservative digest Human Events before Brown was killed. "The 
GOP is presumably  at war with working class America. Perhaps the 
most ardent and effective rhetorician for the Democrats in the  
political class war is Ron Brown, presently commerce secretary and 
formerly chairman of the Democratic National  Committee. Brown 
rarely gives a speech without making reference to Republican 
insensitivity to the plight of the  poor. It is his stock-in-trade.
        "Recently, however, it was reported that Secretary Brown reaped 
a generous tax break by investing in an  apartment complex declared 
partly 'unfit for human habitation' in Landover, Maryland. Housing 
inspectors for the  county investigating the houses owned in part by 
Brown found trash, debris, used condoms and human waste in  and 
around the buildings. Officials also noted broken windows, rotting 
door frames and wrecked vehicles on the  property.
        "Brown, already under investigation by the Justice Department 
for several of his business relationships,  invested $71,000 in this 
Landover housing project in 1983 and enjoyed approximately 
$175,000 in tax write-offs  in the years that followed. Brown claims 
he is a passive investor and doesn't know anything at all about the 
housing  project. A. Bruce Rozet, whose firm bought the company 
that manages the apartments, said, 'There would be no  reason for 
him [Brown] not to know the property he invested in.'
         "Last October, [now-resigned] Secretary of Housing and Urban 
Development Henry Cisneros charged that  Rozet 'got filthy rich off 
this program and he left filthy places behind him for people to live 
in.' No mention of Ron  Brown was made in that speech."
        "There is something quite remarkable about this story, which 
first appeared in the Los Angeles Times. As yet  no one has 
mentioned the fact that the Democratic leader best known for beating 
the drums of class warfare is  engaged in an investment designed to 
reduce his tax burden and, in the process, exploit the poor and put 
him in the  position of being a slumlord," writes London. "This, after 
all, is the same Ron Brown who accuses Republicans of  using a cut 
in the capital gains tax as a way of assisting wealthy patrons. This is 
the same Ron Brown who  contends that the Newt Gingrich-led 
Congress is taking advantage of poor children and unwed mothers.
        "Surely someone out there in medialand must recognize the 
gross hypocrisy in this man. Yet, thus far, there  has only been 
conspicuous silence. Could it be that Democrats and media 
panjandrums, who rely on a stereotypical  view of the protagonists in 
the class war of their making, don't know how to digest the imbroglio 
of one of their  faithful? It is hard to imagine a similar response from 
the press corps if Newt Gingrich, to cite one example, were  caught in 
a similar flim-flam tax deal.
        "If the Democrats wish to play the class-warfare theme song, the 
Republicans should play it as well. This time  the lyrics should 
include Ron Brown's investment strategy that has led directly to the 
privation and misery of the  people he invariably claims to defend."
        But now, no defense has to be made of Ron Brown.
        He has received a hero's burial.
        And you can just imagine the criticism that is going to rise 
against the conservative media for sullying the  memory of a martyr, 
fallen warrior and hero.
        Even if he was about to embarrass the Clintons just before his 
very convenient and timely death.
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Subject: Ron Brown's Body Lies A-Moulderin'...

But his truths are buried deep...

                WAS RON BROWN MURDERED?
   
 The following is from Christian Crusade Newspaper, P.O. Box 
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        It was a politically timely death.
        Just as Bill Clinton's re-election campaign was swinging into 
full gear, just as Bob Dole emerged as the GOP  contender, just as the 
public was forgetting all the talk of Bill and Hillary's scandals, one of 
President Clinton's  biggest potential embarrassments was 
conveniently gone.
        Commerce Secretary Ron Brown had been surrounded by 
controversy since the day he first took office. The  former chairman 
of the Democratic Party had gotten the job as a political payback and 
was almost immediately  accused of taking bribes, selling his 
influence and investing in slum property to lessen his tax bills.
        Now, he was dead - killed in a suspicious plane crash in 
Croatia - and being hailed as a martyr, a national  hero, a fallen 
warrior, and a role model for inner-city children.
        It was just too convenient.
        Was he sacrificed?
        Given the list of Clinton associates who had met untimely deaths 
when they, too, embarrassed the President,  Brown's strange plane 
crash raises all sorts of red flags.
        Just consider this partial list of those affiliated with this
president 
who have somehow, mysteriously, met with  deadly misfortune:
        *       VINCENT FOSTER - highly suspicious suicide. This 
longtime Clinton friend and  White House staffer had detailed 
knowledge of Clintons' personal finances and was reportedly 
distraught  over discoveries of Clinton illegalities. He made a phone 
call to Hillary Clinton in Little Rock shortly before  his death.
        *       PAULA GROBER - died in a suspicious one-car accident 
with no witnesses. She had  been Clinton's speech interpreter for 
deaf. She had traveled extensively with Clinton from 1978 until her  
death.
        *       GARY JOHNSON - beaten up but lived. He had tapes of 
Clinton's visits with Gennifer  Flowers. Two thugs beat him up and 
stole the tapes.
        *       FEDERAL AGENTS CONWAY LEBLEU, TODD 
MCKEEHAN,  ROBERT WILLIAMS, STEVE WILLIS - all killed 
at the Branch Davidian compound raid  near Waco, Texas. These 
men, formerly assigned to protect Clinton, died under highly 
suspicious  circumstances. Video tape and other evidence indicates 
none died from guns fired by Davidians. Allegedly,  all died of 
gunshots to the left temple.
        *       JERRY PARKS - murdered by unknown assailant. He was 
the owner of a security firm  which Clinton had used in his election 
campaign. Parks had information about sexual affairs and drug  
parties Clinton allegedly attended. Parks had threatened to go public 
if Clinton did not pay $81,000  outstanding bill. Parks' home was 
broken into hours before his death and the only thing taken was the  
documentation on Clinton.
        *       LUTHER PARKS - gunned down in his car. He had been 
the head of Clinton's  guberntorial security team in Arkansas. His 
family says shortly before death, they were being followed by  
unknown people Parks was making a dossier on Clinton's allegedly 
illicit activities. After his death, the file  on Clinton was stolen in a 
break-in at his home.
        *       C. VICTOR RAISER II - died in unexplained plane crash. 
He was the national finance  co-chairman for Clinton's presidential 
campaign. DeeDee Meyers described Raisor as "major player" in the  
campaign. Six others died in the still-unexplained plane crash.
        *       PAUL TULLY - died under mysterious circumstances. He 
was the Democratic National  Commitee Political Director and was 
described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor."
        *       JON WALKER - killed when he fell or was pushed off of 
Lincoln Towers building. He  was investigating Whitewater.
        *       PAUL WILCHER - found dead on toilet in apartment. This 
Washington attorney was  investigating alleged drug oporations out 
of Mena, Arkansas, to which Clinton allegedly had ties. He was  
planning to produce a T.V. documentary on his findings.
        *       ED WILLEY - died of a gunshot wound. This Clinton 
fundraiser's death was ruled a  suicide, but no note was found and no 
motive was identified.
        *       DANNY CASOLARO - died with his wrists slit. He had 
been investigating Clinton  scandals and had warned his family that 
he was in danger. He told his family if he was found dead of  accident 
or suicide not to believe it.
        And now, how did Ron Brown die?
         His plane crashed into a hill in Croatia. Conveniently, it had no 
"black box" recording what happened. Nor  did it have safety 
equipment required on such planes - and at least one U.S. Army 
officer had been been relieved  of command for refusing to put Brown 
on the plane that eventually killed him.
        "The Air Force T-43A that crashed, killing Commerce Secretary 
Ron Brown and his party," writes Rowan  Scarborough in the 
Washington Times, "lacked a widely available modern navigational 
aid for landing in bad  weather, Pentagon officials said."
        Officers at the Pentagon, who asked not to be named, wondered 
why a passenger jet used exclusively to  transport such an important 
member of the Clinton cabinet did not yet have the device or even an 
advanced radar that  would have let pilots know that they had been 
drawn two miles off course, according to Scarborough.
        The plane, indeed, lacked voice and flight data recorders - so-
called "black boxes" - which could have  resolved many of the 
lingering questions surrounding the mysterious crash.
        "One of the most difficult questions faced by investigators of the 
jet crash in Croatia that killed Commerce  Secretary Ron Brown and 
everyone else on board is whether the pilots took unnecessary risks to 
deliver their VIP  passengers," asked the New York Times.
         "Going strictly by the book, the pilots on Wednesday's flight to 
Dubrovnik could have been justified in  turning back from their 
approach to Dubrovnik's airport: The weather that day has been 
called the worst in a decade,  the airport was not equipped with 
modern precision landing aids, and the mountainous coastal terrain is 
tricky."
        According to the Associated Press, the U.S. Air Force 
commander of the squadron responsible for the plane  that crashed 
with Brown aboard was relieved of his command just before the crash 
because he raised concerns  about Brown's flight and those of other 
VIPs.
        Lt. Col. James Albright lost command of the 76th Airlift 
Squadron, based at Ramstein Air Base in Germany,  just five days 
before the crash.
        The Stars and Stripes, the unofficial military newspaper 
published for U.S. forces in Germany, quotes an  unidentified Air 
Force pilot as saying Albright was fired because he told his superiors 
he would refuse to allow the  T-43 to fly in conditions he considered 
unsafe.
        The pilot, who spoke to The Stars and Stripes on condition of 
anonymity, said Albright objected to "pressure  from above" to allow 
flights in areas where ground-based, computerized navigation devices 
had been destroyed or  removed during the recent fighting. Albright 
was especially opposed to such flights during foul weather, the pilot  
said.
         Brig. Gen. William E. Stevens has confirmed that he relieved 
Albright of his command just days before  Brown's crash and 
reassigned him to a staff job, because Albright had repeatedly taken 
actions not cleared by his  superiors. He went out of his way to do his 
job right, in other words - and did not just blindly follow orders. He  
was upset that VIPs were being put on planes that were not safe and 
lacked critical equipment.
        He would not shut up.
        So, he was relieved of his command and given a desk job.
        Did Brown's plane really need the navigational equipment that 
was missing? His plane was a T-43A, the  military version of the 
Boeing 737. All commercial versions of the plane are required by law 
to have the gear, which  would have kept it from slamming into the 
hill, which is called Sveti Ivan, or Saint John near Dubrovnik.
        The plane was strangely off the approach path to the airport, 
witnesses said.
        Actually, the plane almost cleared the hill. The wreckage was 
found only 50 yards below its crest.
        "A number of inhabitants of the villages along the Adriatic coast 
between Dubrovnik and the Cilipi airport said  they heard or saw a 
plane passing low above them some two miles inland off the route 
that planes heading to  Dubrovnik aiport usually take," reported 
Reuters journalist Davor Huic. "A straight line connects the crash site 
and  three villages - Gornji Brgat, Srebreno and Plat - where 
witnesses accounts offered the first consistent, albeit  sketchy 
reconstruction of those few crucial minutes following the last radio 
communication with the control tower,  after which the plane 
disappeared from radar screens."
        Ana and Miho Duplica from the village of Plat probably were 
the last people to see the plane only seconds  before it slammed into 
the top of the hill rising steeply only a few hundred yards from their 
home.
        Alerted by an unusual noise that was louder than the thunder of 
the storm raging outside, they came out of  their house just in time to 
spot a giant jet coming out of the thick fog.
        "The plane appeared from the clouds like a ghost," said Ana 
Duplica. "We said to one another: 'This plane  must be lost, it won't 
fare well."'
        "I came out and saw the plane coming out of the fog and going 
back into it," said Miho Duplica. "It flew just  above our heads, very, 
very low."
        When it disappeared towards the hill it was flying at under 900 
feet, Miho Duplica said.
        The Duplicas said they heard a change in the sound of the 
plane's engine when it disappeared towards the hill,  as if the pilot 
had tried to climb above the 2,300-foot peak after it suddenly came 
into view.
        "After it disappeared in the fog we heard a loud noise as if he 
was taking off. The sound changed and then  nothing," said Miho 
Duplica.
        Down the road in the village of Srebreno, Anto Kristovic, the 
owner of a small cafe, said he remembered well  the strange noise that 
forced him and his brother out of the cellar.
        "The plane went roaring just over our heads, it made an 
incredible noise," Kristovic said.
        "The normal flight path is on the far side of that hill, past the 
church and straight on," he said, pointing to a  small white church on 
the top of a ridge between his house and the sea. "Instead it came 
overhead."
        "The engine sounded unusual," said Kristovic, who said he had 
never witnessed anything like the crash in 20  years of living in the 
vicinity of an international airport.
        To the west, in the village of Brgat Gornji, the Basics family 
were cleaning up their war-ravaged home they  had just returned to 
three weeks ago.
        "The plane flew right over us. It was much louder than usual. 
When the planes are landing at Cilipi airport,  they go much further 
out towards the sea," Luce Basic said.
        The fact that the houses of the three families and the crash site 
lie on a straight line that runs about two miles  inland from the normal 
approach path indicated the plane may have veered off course well 
before slamming into the  hill.
        Why the pilot kept to the wrong course if he passed by at least 
two beacons, one at the level of Brgat and the  other off shore from 
Plat, remains to be explained by investigators.
        Military pilots said the T-43A pilot ordinarily would been 
relying on his global positioning system (GPS) that  is now relied on 
by many military pilots and is required on commercial airliners. The 
GPS could have pinpointed  the runway at Dubrovnik despite a 
blinding rainstorm as the plane approached the airport. GPS receives 
a satellite  signal that gives the plane's exact location.
        Instead, the pilots, Capt. Ashley Davis, the commanding officer, 
and Capt. Tim Schafer, had to rely on a  1950s system, a 
nondirectional beacon , that provides little information to the pilot 
and can be distorted by extreme  weather. GPS is especially critical in 
approaching airports like Dubrovnik that lack sophisticated 
equipment,  reported Reuters.
         So, who is to blame?
        Defense Secretary William Perry told the Associated Press, "It 
was a classic sort of an accident that good  instrumentation should be 
able to prevent." A Pentagon pilot quoted anonymously by AP 
disagreed. "Somebody  should ask the question why did you have a 
plane stationed in Germany and used for that purpose with the least  
ability to fly?"
        But why would anybody go to such trouble to get rid of a 
Clinton administration cabinet member? Did Ron  Brown pose any 
potential embarrassment to the Clinton re-election campaign?
        "Bill Clinton came to Washington promising there would be no 
stain on his administration - it would be free  of graft, corruption or 
any hint of wrongdoing," notes Jamie Dettmer, writing in the 
conservative journal Insight on  the News. "The highest ethical 
standards would be applied rigorously. Nominees for Cabinet posts 
would be  expected to meet stringent codes of conduct, boasted the 
president's then-transition director Warren Christopher.  There would 
be no Iran-Contra or Watergate scandals to poison the Clinton 
presidency. Four days after the election  the president-elect promised 
'the most ethical administration in the history of the Republic.'"
        However, even before Brown entered office, an air of suspicion 
hung over his business affairs.
         "A noted wheeler-dealer whose networking skills were more 
impressive even than Clinton's," writes  Dettmer, "Brown had done 
little to dispel the general wariness about his commercial practices. In 
a letter to Attorney  General Janet Reno, the chairman of the House 
Government Reform and Oversight Committee, Pennsylvania  
Republican Bill Clinger, complained, "For over a year, in response to 
direct questions posed to the secretary, I have  received inaccurate, 
incomplete and misleading responses, or no response at all" from 
Brown.
        In one instance, Brown failed to meet a request from the 
committee for information about ties between his  immediate family 
members and Corridor Broadcasting Corp, which is owned by Texas 
entrepreneur Nolanda  Hill. According to Clinger, Brown's daughter, 
Tracy, and his daughter-in-law, Tamara, both received money  from 
Corridor, a firm that defaulted on almost $40 million in loans held by 
government agencies and is itself the  subject of an inquiry by the 
Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
        At the center of the complicated allegations against Brown was 
the charge that he hid from Congress  $400,000 he received from 
another Hill firm, the First International Communications Corp. 
According to Brown,  there was no obligation on him to declare the 
$400,000 since it came in several different checks throughout 1993  
and was a payment by Hill for his stake in First International.
         Clinger claims Brown failed to release "any information to 
support his contention that these payments were  part of divestiture" 
transactions. Brown, in fact, had invested no money in the company 
when he became a partner  in 1990.
        Brown's role at First International was to provide political 
connections. He gave Hill an entree to the highest  circles of 
Democratic politics. Through Brown, then chairman of the 
Democratic National Committee, Hill was  appointed to serve on the 
party's convention-site selection committee. Did Brown's help stop 
there, before he  entered office? Clinger's aides have been trying to 
discover who secured an invitation for Hill to a select White  House 
lunch in the summer of 1993. Hill was the only guest at the lunch 
with the president who was not a CEO of  a company listed among 
the Fortune 500. Congressional investigators also are intrigued by a 
memo Hill wrote on  May 13,1993, asking Brown to arrange a 
meeting with Commerce officials for a business associate, John 
Foster.
         Clinton had tried to make a case that the press and Congress 
should not concern itself about any alleged  wrongdoing committed 
by Cabinet members prior to entering government.
        That has been one of his and Hillary's biggest defenses in the 
Whitewater case.
         However, charges were surfacing that Brown had been guilty of 
impropriety while in office.
        In particular, he failed to disclose his financial stake in another

business, Kellee Communications Inc.  Congressman Clinger claims 
that Brown's connections with Kellee posed a conflict of interest with 
his role as  Commerce secretary.
         Kellee has major pay-phone contracts with AT&T.
        Brown has helped AT&T win telecommunications-equipment 
deals overseas.
        The allegation is that as Secretary of Commerce, Brown was still 
lining his pockets, making deals that made  millions of dollars for him 
and his family
        In documents sent to Reno by Clinger, he says that as Commerce 
secretary, Brown "invited AT&T  executives to accompany him to 
Saudi Arabia. This trip, coupled with other efforts by the secretary, 
culminated in  the signing of a $4 billion contract for AT&T.... 
Although the Saudi contract may not have had a direct financial  
impact on Kellee, it resulted in increased good will toward the 
secretary, and presumably, Kellee Communications.  This enhanced 
good will was an important factor enabling Kellee to expand its 
AT&T joint venture."
        Clinger says Brown was corrupt.
        He rejects the liberals' claim that Republicans were being 
overzealous in their pursuit of Brown. "I don't think  we are 
overdoing things at all," he says. "There is ample justification for our 
investigations and there is a lot to be  looked at. In Brown's case, 
there are strong indications that abuses happened after he became 
Commerce  secretary."
        The Clinton administration has had its embarrassments.
        "Hardly a month has passed without some new controversy 
rocking the administration," notes Dettmer.  "First it was the travel 
office scandal, followed by Whitewater and the incidental departures 
>from  government of  White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum, 
Deputy Treasury Secretary Roger Altman and Associate Attorney  
General Webster Hubbell."
        Hubbell went to jail.
        "In all, five probes are underway," notes Dettmer. "Three are 
into the financial affairs of Commerce Secretary  Ron Brown who, 
until recently, had been slated by the president to head his re-election 
bid. Former Agriculture  Secretary Mike Espy, who contributed 
greatly to rallying the black vote for Clinton in Southern states during 
the  1992 campaign, is the subject of an ongoing independent-counsel 
inquiry."
        Transportation Secretary Federico Pena is accused of using his 
influence to help his former investment firm  secure a Los An 
contract. Former HEW Secretary Henry Cisneros understated the 
payments he made over a three- year period to his former mistress, 
Linda Medlar, a political fund-raiser. Cisneros told FBI agents 
checking his  background before Senate confirmation hearings that he 
gave money to Medlar from 1990 to 1992 as  compensation for her 
difficulty in securing a job after their affair had become public. He 
said he never paid her more  than $2,500 at a time and that yearly 
totals never exceeded $10,000. In fact, several of his payments 
exceeded  $2,500, and the yearly totals were between $42,000 and 
$60,000. In all, he gave Medlar over $200,000.
        Espy, Cisneros and Pena dutifully resigned.
        Clinton was able to wash his hands of them.
        But Brown would not.
        He refused to go.
        With the re-election campaign in full-swing now, there was vast 
potential for him to embarrass the Clintons.  And so, somehow, he 
has died in a plane crash. All over the nation, flags are at half-mast. 
He is being declared a  national hero and a role model for small 
children.
        That's a lot better for Bill Clinton than if a sitting cabinet 
member were jailed.
        An unrelenting, yearlong probe by Clinger had led to an 
extensive array of detailed allegations against Brown,  including 
charges that he violated federal laws by filing inaccurate financial 
disclosure reports that failed to indicate  income received from First 
International and that that Brown had illegally supplemented his 
federal salary, engaged  in potential conflicts of interest and provided 
false information to Congress about his financial circumstances.
        What about the accusations that he accepted bribes from the 
North Vietnamese Communists - in order to get  the Clinton 
administration to drop its trade embargo?
         A Vietnamese-American, Binh T. Ly, who is living in Florida, 
said Brown accepted $700,000 to help lift the  U.S. trade embargo 
against Vietnam. Then days later, he told the press the FBI ''told me 
that I should take serious  precautions because my life is in danger.'
         Ly told a news conference that the FBI told him ''that my life 
has been threatened.''
        Ly said Nguyen Van Hao, a former Communist Vietnamese 
government official who was his business  partner, had arranged a 
$700,000 payment to Brown. Ly passed an FBI polygraph test, but 
acknowledged that he  had no evidence to support his allegations.
        Was there anything to the case?
        According to the media watchdog group Accuracy in Media, 
Republicans were about to charge Brown with  perjury in his denials 
of accepting the North Vietnamese bribes.
        "Congressional Republicans are raising the specter that 
Commerce Secretary Ron Brown committed perjury  in his oft-
changed explanations about a purported $700,000 bribe offer from a 
Vietnamese businessman," reported  AIM. "In a startling new 
development, a person described as 'close to the National Security 
Council' told  Congressmen that Brown lied when he denied that he 
or his staff were involved in the Clinton Administration's  easing of 
trade restrictions on Vietnam.
        "This is in direct conflict with what Brown told the House 
Foreign Affairs Committee. Brown made clear at  the outset of the 
hearing that he did not intend to discuss allegations by Ly Thanh 
Binh, a Vietnamese-American  businessman from Florida, that he was 
offered $700,000 to help in normalizing U.S.-Vietnam economic 
relations.  The man on whose behalf the overture was supposedly 
made was Nguyen Van Hao, an official of the communist  
government."
        Brown told the Committee, "I am not going to answer any 
questions bearing on the grand jury investigation  in Miami. All I am 
here to talk about today are trade issues."
        Rep. Dan Burton (R.-Ind.) then asked Brown: "Can you tell us, 
Mr. Brown, about any involvement that  you or your staff may have 
had in relation to trade negotiations or the possibility of trade 
negotiations with the  Republic of Vietnam?"
        "I had no involvement with those, Congressman," Brown 
replied.
        Burton then repeated his question in tighter form, asking whether 
any of Brown's subordinates participated in  talks. Again, Brown 
gave a categorical denial, saying, "I answered that in the negative, 
Congressman." He  continued that "we're not going to have internal 
discussions about internal policy formation."
        Soon after Brown's testimony, Burton received a visit from a 
man he described as "a fellow who is close to  the National Security 
Council" who "thought this issue needed to be clarified and 
illuminated."
        Burton gave this account in a floor speech:
        On June 14, a "notice of principals meeting" was sent to 
secretaries of the various departments involved in  international trade, 
setting a "secretaries meeting" for 2 P. M. on June 16 in the White 
House situation room to  discuss a Vietnam options paper.
        As the source told Burton, there are three levels of NSC 
meetings: the "experts' level," at the bottom rung,  where technical 
issues are discussed; the "deputies' level," where issues are clarified; 
and the "principals' level,"  which includes the secretaries of 
departments.
        The June 16 "principals' level" meeting to which Brown was 
invited involved an options paper on Vietnam  which had been 
discussed at the lower two levels. The NSC source told Burton that 
Brown would have been  briefed on the options paper prior to the 
June 16 meeting.
        In any event, the secretaries had two options before them when 
they gathered at the White House.
        According to Burton, "Option 1-A was to allow international 
financial initiatives, but to ease the embargo, to  start the racheting 
down of the embargo, so we could start normalizing relations with 
Vietnam. The majority of  those at the National Security Council 
approved that, but not the Department of Commerce.
        "The Department of Commerce supported Option No. 2 [which 
was to] lift the block on international financial  institutions, and to 
totally, completely, lift the embargo on Vietnam.
        "And do you know who pushed this the hardest? The 
Department of Commerce. Mr. Brown said he didn't  know anything 
about it, he said he never discussed it with anybody in his department, 
and yet at this deputies'  meeting his department was pushing harder, 
almost totally by itself, than anybody else to completely remove that  
embargo with Vietnam."
        The Indiana Republican's staff alerted Congressional reporters 
about the content of the speech, which was  seen on C- SPAN and 
printed in the Congressional Record. But the media ignored Burton's 
explosive revelations  - particularly his charges that Brown's 
conflicting answers on Vietnam put the Clinton Administration in 
jeopardy  of miring itself in scandal.
        "This could be another Watergate, or worse," Burton declared. 
"It stinks to high heaven."
        Burton noted that Brown's story about the Binh allegations has 
changed several times on significant points:
        * A spokesman for Brown denied that the Democratic politician 
had ever met Hao, a denial which Brown  personally gave to several 
Washington reporters in the summer. Then, however, Brown admitted 
having met with  Hao three times, including having dinner with him, 
giving him a tour of the Commerce Department, and sending  him a 
Christmas card.
        * Brown, both personally and through a spokesman, at first 
denied having read a letter Hao sent to Saigon  outlining a discussion 
he held with Brown about the $700,000 fee. But as Burton pointed 
out, Brown later said,  "'Yes, I believe I did read the letter from some 
government official over there.'" Burton continued, "It was the  
Prime Minister of Vietnam. So he has been caught in two or three 
falsehoods already."
        Based on his interviews with Binh, Burton also gave fresh 
details of the deal Brown allegedly tried to make  with the 
Vietnamese. He said, "One of these items, according to Mr. Ly [Binh] 
was that Mr. Brown would have  exclusive contractual rights to 
American businesses that went over there from the Vietnamese side.
        "In other words, he was to get a cut of the 100 or 150 American 
businesses that he would take into Vietnam,  and he would be in 
essence, the beneficiary of any profit made by the Vietnamese 
government, or at least a  percentage of that.
        "In addition, Mr. Ly [Binh] indicated there was going to be huge 
oil-drilling exploration taking place, and that  Vietnam had the third-
largest oil reserves in the world...and that Mr. Brown was going to get 
royalties off of all the  oil that was sold by the Vietnamese 
Government to the United States, and other entities."
        According to Burton, Binh protested such lucrative fees being 
given to Brown and tried to pull back from the  deal. Whereupon, he 
said, Hao admonished him to be quiet, and he would also be given a 
percentage of any  profits. Later, a concerned Binh spoke with a 
friend in Louisiana, a father figure, who told him, "You ought to get  
out of that, because it is corrupt and a lot of people could go to jail."
        At this point Binh broke with Hao and began talking with the 
FBI, the media and Congressional staff  members.
        Then there were the charges that Brown was a slumlord - also 
very embarrassing to the Democrats and to  Clinton.
         "It has been argued in this age of contemporary politics that the 
Republican Party is the party for the wealthy,"  wrote Herb London in 
the conservative digest Human Events before Brown was killed. "The 
GOP is presumably  at war with working class America. Perhaps the 
most ardent and effective rhetorician for the Democrats in the  
political class war is Ron Brown, presently commerce secretary and 
formerly chairman of the Democratic National  Committee. Brown 
rarely gives a speech without making reference to Republican 
insensitivity to the plight of the  poor. It is his stock-in-trade.
        "Recently, however, it was reported that Secretary Brown reaped 
a generous tax break by investing in an  apartment complex declared 
partly 'unfit for human habitation' in Landover, Maryland. Housing 
inspectors for the  county investigating the houses owned in part by 
Brown found trash, debris, used condoms and human waste in  and 
around the buildings. Officials also noted broken windows, rotting 
door frames and wrecked vehicles on the  property.
        "Brown, already under investigation by the Justice Department 
for several of his business relationships,  invested $71,000 in this 
Landover housing project in 1983 and enjoyed approximately 
$175,000 in tax write-offs  in the years that followed. Brown claims 
he is a passive investor and doesn't know anything at all about the 
housing  project. A. Bruce Rozet, whose firm bought the company 
that manages the apartments, said, 'There would be no  reason for 
him [Brown] not to know the property he invested in.'
         "Last October, [now-resigned] Secretary of Housing and Urban 
Development Henry Cisneros charged that  Rozet 'got filthy rich off 
this program and he left filthy places behind him for people to live 
in.' No mention of Ron  Brown was made in that speech."
        "There is something quite remarkable about this story, which 
first appeared in the Los Angeles Times. As yet  no one has 
mentioned the fact that the Democratic leader best known for beating 
the drums of class warfare is  engaged in an investment designed to 
reduce his tax burden and, in the process, exploit the poor and put 
him in the  position of being a slumlord," writes London. "This, after 
all, is the same Ron Brown who accuses Republicans of  using a cut 
in the capital gains tax as a way of assisting wealthy patrons. This is 
the same Ron Brown who  contends that the Newt Gingrich-led 
Congress is taking advantage of poor children and unwed mothers.
        "Surely someone out there in medialand must recognize the 
gross hypocrisy in this man. Yet, thus far, there  has only been 
conspicuous silence. Could it be that Democrats and media 
panjandrums, who rely on a stereotypical  view of the protagonists in 
the class war of their making, don't know how to digest the imbroglio 
of one of their  faithful? It is hard to imagine a similar response from 
the press corps if Newt Gingrich, to cite one example, were  caught in 
a similar flim-flam tax deal.
        "If the Democrats wish to play the class-warfare theme song, the 
Republicans should play it as well. This time  the lyrics should 
include Ron Brown's investment strategy that has led directly to the 
privation and misery of the  people he invariably claims to defend."
        But now, no defense has to be made of Ron Brown.
        He has received a hero's burial.
        And you can just imagine the criticism that is going to rise 
against the conservative media for sullying the  memory of a martyr, 
fallen warrior and hero.
        Even if he was about to embarrass the Clintons just before his 
very convenient and timely death.
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CONTROLLED PRESS PUTS KITTY KELLY (wild with outrageous lies about the
Reagans) Book, rumors about Bush having an affair and ANITA HILL on FRONT
PAGES for MONTHS but when an FBI agent with a perfect record of 26 years
and having worked for 2 1/2 years INSIDE the WHITE HOUSE with his own
professional observations writes them down HIS views SLAMMED and/or
IGNORED by the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT TOTALITARIAN CONTROLLED PRESS.

KITTY KELLY's Book was so packed with lies even the extreme leftist
reviewers had to admit it but still made remarks such as "but the book
does not necessarily completely misrepresent the truth".

Tenth-hand rumors about Bush were touted as if fully proved on the media.
Anita Hill (who later proved her grasp of the truth was tenuous at best)
offered her word against her boss and the press and Congress ran wild with
it as if fact for months though it was one person's word against another.

	ARREST the TRAITORS in D.C., ARREST the TRAITORS in the PRESS and
	RETURN OUR COUNTRY TO IT'S CONSTITUTION!
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Subject: Ron Brown's Body Lies A-Moulderin'...

But his truths are buried deep...

                WAS RON BROWN MURDERED?
   
 The following is from Christian Crusade Newspaper, P.O. Box 
    977, Tulsa, OK 74102, in its 44th year of publication. CCN can
    be E-mailed on America On Line as Christcrew, on Compuserve 
    at 72204,541, and via the Internet as Christcrew@aol.com .
    copyright 1996 Christian Crusade Newspaper.
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        It was a politically timely death.
        Just as Bill Clinton's re-election campaign was swinging into 
full gear, just as Bob Dole emerged as the GOP  contender, just as the 
public was forgetting all the talk of Bill and Hillary's scandals, one of 
President Clinton's  biggest potential embarrassments was 
conveniently gone.
        Commerce Secretary Ron Brown had been surrounded by 
controversy since the day he first took office. The  former chairman 
of the Democratic Party had gotten the job as a political payback and 
was almost immediately  accused of taking bribes, selling his 
influence and investing in slum property to lessen his tax bills.
        Now, he was dead - killed in a suspicious plane crash in 
Croatia - and being hailed as a martyr, a national  hero, a fallen 
warrior, and a role model for inner-city children.
        It was just too convenient.
        Was he sacrificed?
        Given the list of Clinton associates who had met untimely deaths 
when they, too, embarrassed the President,  Brown's strange plane 
crash raises all sorts of red flags.
        Just consider this partial list of those affiliated with this
president 
who have somehow, mysteriously, met with  deadly misfortune:
        *       VINCENT FOSTER - highly suspicious suicide. This 
longtime Clinton friend and  White House staffer had detailed 
knowledge of Clintons' personal finances and was reportedly 
distraught  over discoveries of Clinton illegalities. He made a phone 
call to Hillary Clinton in Little Rock shortly before  his death.
        *       PAULA GROBER - died in a suspicious one-car accident 
with no witnesses. She had  been Clinton's speech interpreter for 
deaf. She had traveled extensively with Clinton from 1978 until her  
death.
        *       GARY JOHNSON - beaten up but lived. He had tapes of 
Clinton's visits with Gennifer  Flowers. Two thugs beat him up and 
stole the tapes.
        *       FEDERAL AGENTS CONWAY LEBLEU, TODD 
MCKEEHAN,  ROBERT WILLIAMS, STEVE WILLIS - all killed 
at the Branch Davidian compound raid  near Waco, Texas. These 
men, formerly assigned to protect Clinton, died under highly 
suspicious  circumstances. Video tape and other evidence indicates 
none died from guns fired by Davidians. Allegedly,  all died of 
gunshots to the left temple.
        *       JERRY PARKS - murdered by unknown assailant. He was 
the owner of a security firm  which Clinton had used in his election 
campaign. Parks had information about sexual affairs and drug  
parties Clinton allegedly attended. Parks had threatened to go public 
if Clinton did not pay $81,000  outstanding bill. Parks' home was 
broken into hours before his death and the only thing taken was the  
documentation on Clinton.
        *       LUTHER PARKS - gunned down in his car. He had been 
the head of Clinton's  guberntorial security team in Arkansas. His 
family says shortly before death, they were being followed by  
unknown people Parks was making a dossier on Clinton's allegedly 
illicit activities. After his death, the file  on Clinton was stolen in a 
break-in at his home.
        *       C. VICTOR RAISER II - died in unexplained plane crash. 
He was the national finance  co-chairman for Clinton's presidential 
campaign. DeeDee Meyers described Raisor as "major player" in the  
campaign. Six others died in the still-unexplained plane crash.
        *       PAUL TULLY - died under mysterious circumstances. He 
was the Democratic National  Commitee Political Director and was 
described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor."
        *       JON WALKER - killed when he fell or was pushed off of 
Lincoln Towers building. He  was investigating Whitewater.
        *       PAUL WILCHER - found dead on toilet in apartment. This 
Washington attorney was  investigating alleged drug oporations out 
of Mena, Arkansas, to which Clinton allegedly had ties. He was  
planning to produce a T.V. documentary on his findings.
        *       ED WILLEY - died of a gunshot wound. This Clinton 
fundraiser's death was ruled a  suicide, but no note was found and no 
motive was identified.
        *       DANNY CASOLARO - died with his wrists slit. He had 
been investigating Clinton  scandals and had warned his family that 
he was in danger. He told his family if he was found dead of  accident 
or suicide not to believe it.
        And now, how did Ron Brown die?
         His plane crashed into a hill in Croatia. Conveniently, it had no 
"black box" recording what happened. Nor  did it have safety 
equipment required on such planes - and at least one U.S. Army 
officer had been been relieved  of command for refusing to put Brown 
on the plane that eventually killed him.
        "The Air Force T-43A that crashed, killing Commerce Secretary 
Ron Brown and his party," writes Rowan  Scarborough in the 
Washington Times, "lacked a widely available modern navigational 
aid for landing in bad  weather, Pentagon officials said."
        Officers at the Pentagon, who asked not to be named, wondered 
why a passenger jet used exclusively to  transport such an important 
member of the Clinton cabinet did not yet have the device or even an 
advanced radar that  would have let pilots know that they had been 
drawn two miles off course, according to Scarborough.
        The plane, indeed, lacked voice and flight data recorders - so-
called "black boxes" - which could have  resolved many of the 
lingering questions surrounding the mysterious crash.
        "One of the most difficult questions faced by investigators of the 
jet crash in Croatia that killed Commerce  Secretary Ron Brown and 
everyone else on board is whether the pilots took unnecessary risks to 
deliver their VIP  passengers," asked the New York Times.
         "Going strictly by the book, the pilots on Wednesday's flight to 
Dubrovnik could have been justified in  turning back from their 
approach to Dubrovnik's airport: The weather that day has been 
called the worst in a decade,  the airport was not equipped with 
modern precision landing aids, and the mountainous coastal terrain is 
tricky."
        According to the Associated Press, the U.S. Air Force 
commander of the squadron responsible for the plane  that crashed 
with Brown aboard was relieved of his command just before the crash 
because he raised concerns  about Brown's flight and those of other 
VIPs.
        Lt. Col. James Albright lost command of the 76th Airlift 
Squadron, based at Ramstein Air Base in Germany,  just five days 
before the crash.
        The Stars and Stripes, the unofficial military newspaper 
published for U.S. forces in Germany, quotes an  unidentified Air 
Force pilot as saying Albright was fired because he told his superiors 
he would refuse to allow the  T-43 to fly in conditions he considered 
unsafe.
        The pilot, who spoke to The Stars and Stripes on condition of 
anonymity, said Albright objected to "pressure  from above" to allow 
flights in areas where ground-based, computerized navigation devices 
had been destroyed or  removed during the recent fighting. Albright 
was especially opposed to such flights during foul weather, the pilot  
said.
         Brig. Gen. William E. Stevens has confirmed that he relieved 
Albright of his command just days before  Brown's crash and 
reassigned him to a staff job, because Albright had repeatedly taken 
actions not cleared by his  superiors. He went out of his way to do his 
job right, in other words - and did not just blindly follow orders. He  
was upset that VIPs were being put on planes that were not safe and 
lacked critical equipment.
        He would not shut up.
        So, he was relieved of his command and given a desk job.
        Did Brown's plane really need the navigational equipment that 
was missing? His plane was a T-43A, the  military version of the 
Boeing 737. All commercial versions of the plane are required by law 
to have the gear, which  would have kept it from slamming into the 
hill, which is called Sveti Ivan, or Saint John near Dubrovnik.
        The plane was strangely off the approach path to the airport, 
witnesses said.
        Actually, the plane almost cleared the hill. The wreckage was 
found only 50 yards below its crest.
        "A number of inhabitants of the villages along the Adriatic coast 
between Dubrovnik and the Cilipi airport said  they heard or saw a 
plane passing low above them some two miles inland off the route 
that planes heading to  Dubrovnik aiport usually take," reported 
Reuters journalist Davor Huic. "A straight line connects the crash site 
and  three villages - Gornji Brgat, Srebreno and Plat - where 
witnesses accounts offered the first consistent, albeit  sketchy 
reconstruction of those few crucial minutes following the last radio 
communication with the control tower,  after which the plane 
disappeared from radar screens."
        Ana and Miho Duplica from the village of Plat probably were 
the last people to see the plane only seconds  before it slammed into 
the top of the hill rising steeply only a few hundred yards from their 
home.
        Alerted by an unusual noise that was louder than the thunder of 
the storm raging outside, they came out of  their house just in time to 
spot a giant jet coming out of the thick fog.
        "The plane appeared from the clouds like a ghost," said Ana 
Duplica. "We said to one another: 'This plane  must be lost, it won't 
fare well."'
        "I came out and saw the plane coming out of the fog and going 
back into it," said Miho Duplica. "It flew just  above our heads, very, 
very low."
        When it disappeared towards the hill it was flying at under 900 
feet, Miho Duplica said.
        The Duplicas said they heard a change in the sound of the 
plane's engine when it disappeared towards the hill,  as if the pilot 
had tried to climb above the 2,300-foot peak after it suddenly came 
into view.
        "After it disappeared in the fog we heard a loud noise as if he 
was taking off. The sound changed and then  nothing," said Miho 
Duplica.
        Down the road in the village of Srebreno, Anto Kristovic, the 
owner of a small cafe, said he remembered well  the strange noise that 
forced him and his brother out of the cellar.
        "The plane went roaring just over our heads, it made an 
incredible noise," Kristovic said.
        "The normal flight path is on the far side of that hill, past the 
church and straight on," he said, pointing to a  small white church on 
the top of a ridge between his house and the sea. "Instead it came 
overhead."
        "The engine sounded unusual," said Kristovic, who said he had 
never witnessed anything like the crash in 20  years of living in the 
vicinity of an international airport.
        To the west, in the village of Brgat Gornji, the Basics family 
were cleaning up their war-ravaged home they  had just returned to 
three weeks ago.
        "The plane flew right over us. It was much louder than usual. 
When the planes are landing at Cilipi airport,  they go much further 
out towards the sea," Luce Basic said.
        The fact that the houses of the three families and the crash site 
lie on a straight line that runs about two miles  inland from the normal 
approach path indicated the plane may have veered off course well 
before slamming into the  hill.
        Why the pilot kept to the wrong course if he passed by at least 
two beacons, one at the level of Brgat and the  other off shore from 
Plat, remains to be explained by investigators.
        Military pilots said the T-43A pilot ordinarily would been 
relying on his global positioning system (GPS) that  is now relied on 
by many military pilots and is required on commercial airliners. The 
GPS could have pinpointed  the runway at Dubrovnik despite a 
blinding rainstorm as the plane approached the airport. GPS receives 
a satellite  signal that gives the plane's exact location.
        Instead, the pilots, Capt. Ashley Davis, the commanding officer, 
and Capt. Tim Schafer, had to rely on a  1950s system, a 
nondirectional beacon , that provides little information to the pilot 
and can be distorted by extreme  weather. GPS is especially critical in 
approaching airports like Dubrovnik that lack sophisticated 
equipment,  reported Reuters.
         So, who is to blame?
        Defense Secretary William Perry told the Associated Press, "It 
was a classic sort of an accident that good  instrumentation should be 
able to prevent." A Pentagon pilot quoted anonymously by AP 
disagreed. "Somebody  should ask the question why did you have a 
plane stationed in Germany and used for that purpose with the least  
ability to fly?"
        But why would anybody go to such trouble to get rid of a 
Clinton administration cabinet member? Did Ron  Brown pose any 
potential embarrassment to the Clinton re-election campaign?
        "Bill Clinton came to Washington promising there would be no 
stain on his administration - it would be free  of graft, corruption or 
any hint of wrongdoing," notes Jamie Dettmer, writing in the 
conservative journal Insight on  the News. "The highest ethical 
standards would be applied rigorously. Nominees for Cabinet posts 
would be  expected to meet stringent codes of conduct, boasted the 
president's then-transition director Warren Christopher.  There would 
be no Iran-Contra or Watergate scandals to poison the Clinton 
presidency. Four days after the election  the president-elect promised 
'the most ethical administration in the history of the Republic.'"
        However, even before Brown entered office, an air of suspicion 
hung over his business affairs.
         "A noted wheeler-dealer whose networking skills were more 
impressive even than Clinton's," writes  Dettmer, "Brown had done 
little to dispel the general wariness about his commercial practices. In 
a letter to Attorney  General Janet Reno, the chairman of the House 
Government Reform and Oversight Committee, Pennsylvania  
Republican Bill Clinger, complained, "For over a year, in response to 
direct questions posed to the secretary, I have  received inaccurate, 
incomplete and misleading responses, or no response at all" from 
Brown.
        In one instance, Brown failed to meet a request from the 
committee for information about ties between his  immediate family 
members and Corridor Broadcasting Corp, which is owned by Texas 
entrepreneur Nolanda  Hill. According to Clinger, Brown's daughter, 
Tracy, and his daughter-in-law, Tamara, both received money  from 
Corridor, a firm that defaulted on almost $40 million in loans held by 
government agencies and is itself the  subject of an inquiry by the 
Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
        At the center of the complicated allegations against Brown was 
the charge that he hid from Congress  $400,000 he received from 
another Hill firm, the First International Communications Corp. 
According to Brown,  there was no obligation on him to declare the 
$400,000 since it came in several different checks throughout 1993  
and was a payment by Hill for his stake in First International.
         Clinger claims Brown failed to release "any information to 
support his contention that these payments were  part of divestiture" 
transactions. Brown, in fact, had invested no money in the company 
when he became a partner  in 1990.
        Brown's role at First International was to provide political 
connections. He gave Hill an entree to the highest  circles of 
Democratic politics. Through Brown, then chairman of the 
Democratic National Committee, Hill was  appointed to serve on the 
party's convention-site selection committee. Did Brown's help stop 
there, before he  entered office? Clinger's aides have been trying to 
discover who secured an invitation for Hill to a select White  House 
lunch in the summer of 1993. Hill was the only guest at the lunch 
with the president who was not a CEO of  a company listed among 
the Fortune 500. Congressional investigators also are intrigued by a 
memo Hill wrote on  May 13,1993, asking Brown to arrange a 
meeting with Commerce officials for a business associate, John 
Foster.
         Clinton had tried to make a case that the press and Congress 
should not concern itself about any alleged  wrongdoing committed 
by Cabinet members prior to entering government.
        That has been one of his and Hillary's biggest defenses in the 
Whitewater case.
         However, charges were surfacing that Brown had been guilty of 
impropriety while in office.
        In particular, he failed to disclose his financial stake in another

business, Kellee Communications Inc.  Congressman Clinger claims 
that Brown's connections with Kellee posed a conflict of interest with 
his role as  Commerce secretary.
         Kellee has major pay-phone contracts with AT&T.
        Brown has helped AT&T win telecommunications-equipment 
deals overseas.
        The allegation is that as Secretary of Commerce, Brown was still 
lining his pockets, making deals that made  millions of dollars for him 
and his family
        In documents sent to Reno by Clinger, he says that as Commerce 
secretary, Brown "invited AT&T  executives to accompany him to 
Saudi Arabia. This trip, coupled with other efforts by the secretary, 
culminated in  the signing of a $4 billion contract for AT&T.... 
Although the Saudi contract may not have had a direct financial  
impact on Kellee, it resulted in increased good will toward the 
secretary, and presumably, Kellee Communications.  This enhanced 
good will was an important factor enabling Kellee to expand its 
AT&T joint venture."
        Clinger says Brown was corrupt.
        He rejects the liberals' claim that Republicans were being 
overzealous in their pursuit of Brown. "I don't think  we are 
overdoing things at all," he says. "There is ample justification for our 
investigations and there is a lot to be  looked at. In Brown's case, 
there are strong indications that abuses happened after he became 
Commerce  secretary."
        The Clinton administration has had its embarrassments.
        "Hardly a month has passed without some new controversy 
rocking the administration," notes Dettmer.  "First it was the travel 
office scandal, followed by Whitewater and the incidental departures 
>from  government of  White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum, 
Deputy Treasury Secretary Roger Altman and Associate Attorney  
General Webster Hubbell."
        Hubbell went to jail.
        "In all, five probes are underway," notes Dettmer. "Three are 
into the financial affairs of Commerce Secretary  Ron Brown who, 
until recently, had been slated by the president to head his re-election 
bid. Former Agriculture  Secretary Mike Espy, who contributed 
greatly to rallying the black vote for Clinton in Southern states during 
the  1992 campaign, is the subject of an ongoing independent-counsel 
inquiry."
        Transportation Secretary Federico Pena is accused of using his 
influence to help his former investment firm  secure a Los An 
contract. Former HEW Secretary Henry Cisneros understated the 
payments he made over a three- year period to his former mistress, 
Linda Medlar, a political fund-raiser. Cisneros told FBI agents 
checking his  background before Senate confirmation hearings that he 
gave money to Medlar from 1990 to 1992 as  compensation for her 
difficulty in securing a job after their affair had become public. He 
said he never paid her more  than $2,500 at a time and that yearly 
totals never exceeded $10,000. In fact, several of his payments 
exceeded  $2,500, and the yearly totals were between $42,000 and 
$60,000. In all, he gave Medlar over $200,000.
        Espy, Cisneros and Pena dutifully resigned.
        Clinton was able to wash his hands of them.
        But Brown would not.
        He refused to go.
        With the re-election campaign in full-swing now, there was vast 
potential for him to embarrass the Clintons.  And so, somehow, he 
has died in a plane crash. All over the nation, flags are at half-mast. 
He is being declared a  national hero and a role model for small 
children.
        That's a lot better for Bill Clinton than if a sitting cabinet 
member were jailed.
        An unrelenting, yearlong probe by Clinger had led to an 
extensive array of detailed allegations against Brown,  including 
charges that he violated federal laws by filing inaccurate financial 
disclosure reports that failed to indicate  income received from First 
International and that that Brown had illegally supplemented his 
federal salary, engaged  in potential conflicts of interest and provided 
false information to Congress about his financial circumstances.
        What about the accusations that he accepted bribes from the 
North Vietnamese Communists - in order to get  the Clinton 
administration to drop its trade embargo?
         A Vietnamese-American, Binh T. Ly, who is living in Florida, 
said Brown accepted $700,000 to help lift the  U.S. trade embargo 
against Vietnam. Then days later, he told the press the FBI ''told me 
that I should take serious  precautions because my life is in danger.'
         Ly told a news conference that the FBI told him ''that my life 
has been threatened.''
        Ly said Nguyen Van Hao, a former Communist Vietnamese 
government official who was his business  partner, had arranged a 
$700,000 payment to Brown. Ly passed an FBI polygraph test, but 
acknowledged that he  had no evidence to support his allegations.
        Was there anything to the case?
        According to the media watchdog group Accuracy in Media, 
Republicans were about to charge Brown with  perjury in his denials 
of accepting the North Vietnamese bribes.
        "Congressional Republicans are raising the specter that 
Commerce Secretary Ron Brown committed perjury  in his oft-
changed explanations about a purported $700,000 bribe offer from a 
Vietnamese businessman," reported  AIM. "In a startling new 
development, a person described as 'close to the National Security 
Council' told  Congressmen that Brown lied when he denied that he 
or his staff were involved in the Clinton Administration's  easing of 
trade restrictions on Vietnam.
        "This is in direct conflict with what Brown told the House 
Foreign Affairs Committee. Brown made clear at  the outset of the 
hearing that he did not intend to discuss allegations by Ly Thanh 
Binh, a Vietnamese-American  businessman from Florida, that he was 
offered $700,000 to help in normalizing U.S.-Vietnam economic 
relations.  The man on whose behalf the overture was supposedly 
made was Nguyen Van Hao, an official of the communist  
government."
        Brown told the Committee, "I am not going to answer any 
questions bearing on the grand jury investigation  in Miami. All I am 
here to talk about today are trade issues."
        Rep. Dan Burton (R.-Ind.) then asked Brown: "Can you tell us, 
Mr. Brown, about any involvement that  you or your staff may have 
had in relation to trade negotiations or the possibility of trade 
negotiations with the  Republic of Vietnam?"
        "I had no involvement with those, Congressman," Brown 
replied.
        Burton then repeated his question in tighter form, asking whether 
any of Brown's subordinates participated in  talks. Again, Brown 
gave a categorical denial, saying, "I answered that in the negative, 
Congressman." He  continued that "we're not going to have internal 
discussions about internal policy formation."
        Soon after Brown's testimony, Burton received a visit from a 
man he described as "a fellow who is close to  the National Security 
Council" who "thought this issue needed to be clarified and 
illuminated."
        Burton gave this account in a floor speech:
        On June 14, a "notice of principals meeting" was sent to 
secretaries of the various departments involved in  international trade, 
setting a "secretaries meeting" for 2 P. M. on June 16 in the White 
House situation room to  discuss a Vietnam options paper.
        As the source told Burton, there are three levels of NSC 
meetings: the "experts' level," at the bottom rung,  where technical 
issues are discussed; the "deputies' level," where issues are clarified; 
and the "principals' level,"  which includes the secretaries of 
departments.
        The June 16 "principals' level" meeting to which Brown was 
invited involved an options paper on Vietnam  which had been 
discussed at the lower two levels. The NSC source told Burton that 
Brown would have been  briefed on the options paper prior to the 
June 16 meeting.
        In any event, the secretaries had two options before them when 
they gathered at the White House.
        According to Burton, "Option 1-A was to allow international 
financial initiatives, but to ease the embargo, to  start the racheting 
down of the embargo, so we could start normalizing relations with 
Vietnam. The majority of  those at the National Security Council 
approved that, but not the Department of Commerce.
        "The Department of Commerce supported Option No. 2 [which 
was to] lift the block on international financial  institutions, and to 
totally, completely, lift the embargo on Vietnam.
        "And do you know who pushed this the hardest? The 
Department of Commerce. Mr. Brown said he didn't  know anything 
about it, he said he never discussed it with anybody in his department, 
and yet at this deputies'  meeting his department was pushing harder, 
almost totally by itself, than anybody else to completely remove that  
embargo with Vietnam."
        The Indiana Republican's staff alerted Congressional reporters 
about the content of the speech, which was  seen on C- SPAN and 
printed in the Congressional Record. But the media ignored Burton's 
explosive revelations  - particularly his charges that Brown's 
conflicting answers on Vietnam put the Clinton Administration in 
jeopardy  of miring itself in scandal.
        "This could be another Watergate, or worse," Burton declared. 
"It stinks to high heaven."
        Burton noted that Brown's story about the Binh allegations has 
changed several times on significant points:
        * A spokesman for Brown denied that the Democratic politician 
had ever met Hao, a denial which Brown  personally gave to several 
Washington reporters in the summer. Then, however, Brown admitted 
having met with  Hao three times, including having dinner with him, 
giving him a tour of the Commerce Department, and sending  him a 
Christmas card.
        * Brown, both personally and through a spokesman, at first 
denied having read a letter Hao sent to Saigon  outlining a discussion 
he held with Brown about the $700,000 fee. But as Burton pointed 
out, Brown later said,  "'Yes, I believe I did read the letter from some 
government official over there.'" Burton continued, "It was the  
Prime Minister of Vietnam. So he has been caught in two or three 
falsehoods already."
        Based on his interviews with Binh, Burton also gave fresh 
details of the deal Brown allegedly tried to make  with the 
Vietnamese. He said, "One of these items, according to Mr. Ly [Binh] 
was that Mr. Brown would have  exclusive contractual rights to 
American businesses that went over there from the Vietnamese side.
        "In other words, he was to get a cut of the 100 or 150 American 
businesses that he would take into Vietnam,  and he would be in 
essence, the beneficiary of any profit made by the Vietnamese 
government, or at least a  percentage of that.
        "In addition, Mr. Ly [Binh] indicated there was going to be huge 
oil-drilling exploration taking place, and that  Vietnam had the third-
largest oil reserves in the world...and that Mr. Brown was going to get 
royalties off of all the  oil that was sold by the Vietnamese 
Government to the United States, and other entities."
        According to Burton, Binh protested such lucrative fees being 
given to Brown and tried to pull back from the  deal. Whereupon, he 
said, Hao admonished him to be quiet, and he would also be given a 
percentage of any  profits. Later, a concerned Binh spoke with a 
friend in Louisiana, a father figure, who told him, "You ought to get  
out of that, because it is corrupt and a lot of people could go to jail."
        At this point Binh broke with Hao and began talking with the 
FBI, the media and Congressional staff  members.
        Then there were the charges that Brown was a slumlord - also 
very embarrassing to the Democrats and to  Clinton.
         "It has been argued in this age of contemporary politics that the 
Republican Party is the party for the wealthy,"  wrote Herb London in 
the conservative digest Human Events before Brown was killed. "The 
GOP is presumably  at war with working class America. Perhaps the 
most ardent and effective rhetorician for the Democrats in the  
political class war is Ron Brown, presently commerce secretary and 
formerly chairman of the Democratic National  Committee. Brown 
rarely gives a speech without making reference to Republican 
insensitivity to the plight of the  poor. It is his stock-in-trade.
        "Recently, however, it was reported that Secretary Brown reaped 
a generous tax break by investing in an  apartment complex declared 
partly 'unfit for human habitation' in Landover, Maryland. Housing 
inspectors for the  county investigating the houses owned in part by 
Brown found trash, debris, used condoms and human waste in  and 
around the buildings. Officials also noted broken windows, rotting 
door frames and wrecked vehicles on the  property.
        "Brown, already under investigation by the Justice Department 
for several of his business relationships,  invested $71,000 in this 
Landover housing project in 1983 and enjoyed approximately 
$175,000 in tax write-offs  in the years that followed. Brown claims 
he is a passive investor and doesn't know anything at all about the 
housing  project. A. Bruce Rozet, whose firm bought the company 
that manages the apartments, said, 'There would be no  reason for 
him [Brown] not to know the property he invested in.'
         "Last October, [now-resigned] Secretary of Housing and Urban 
Development Henry Cisneros charged that  Rozet 'got filthy rich off 
this program and he left filthy places behind him for people to live 
in.' No mention of Ron  Brown was made in that speech."
        "There is something quite remarkable about this story, which 
first appeared in the Los Angeles Times. As yet  no one has 
mentioned the fact that the Democratic leader best known for beating 
the drums of class warfare is  engaged in an investment designed to 
reduce his tax burden and, in the process, exploit the poor and put 
him in the  position of being a slumlord," writes London. "This, after 
all, is the same Ron Brown who accuses Republicans of  using a cut 
in the capital gains tax as a way of assisting wealthy patrons. This is 
the same Ron Brown who  contends that the Newt Gingrich-led 
Congress is taking advantage of poor children and unwed mothers.
        "Surely someone out there in medialand must recognize the 
gross hypocrisy in this man. Yet, thus far, there  has only been 
conspicuous silence. Could it be that Democrats and media 
panjandrums, who rely on a stereotypical  view of the protagonists in 
the class war of their making, don't know how to digest the imbroglio 
of one of their  faithful? It is hard to imagine a similar response from 
the press corps if Newt Gingrich, to cite one example, were  caught in 
a similar flim-flam tax deal.
        "If the Democrats wish to play the class-warfare theme song, the 
Republicans should play it as well. This time  the lyrics should 
include Ron Brown's investment strategy that has led directly to the 
privation and misery of the  people he invariably claims to defend."
        But now, no defense has to be made of Ron Brown.
        He has received a hero's burial.
        And you can just imagine the criticism that is going to rise 
against the conservative media for sullying the  memory of a martyr, 
fallen warrior and hero.
        Even if he was about to embarrass the Clintons just before his 
very convenient and timely death.
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Subject: Ron Brown's Body Lies A-Moulderin'...

But his truths are buried deep...

                WAS RON BROWN MURDERED?
   
 The following is from Christian Crusade Newspaper, P.O. Box 
    977, Tulsa, OK 74102, in its 44th year of publication. CCN can
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        It was a politically timely death.
        Just as Bill Clinton's re-election campaign was swinging into 
full gear, just as Bob Dole emerged as the GOP  contender, just as the 
public was forgetting all the talk of Bill and Hillary's scandals, one of 
President Clinton's  biggest potential embarrassments was 
conveniently gone.
        Commerce Secretary Ron Brown had been surrounded by 
controversy since the day he first took office. The  former chairman 
of the Democratic Party had gotten the job as a political payback and 
was almost immediately  accused of taking bribes, selling his 
influence and investing in slum property to lessen his tax bills.
        Now, he was dead - killed in a suspicious plane crash in 
Croatia - and being hailed as a martyr, a national  hero, a fallen 
warrior, and a role model for inner-city children.
        It was just too convenient.
        Was he sacrificed?
        Given the list of Clinton associates who had met untimely deaths 
when they, too, embarrassed the President,  Brown's strange plane 
crash raises all sorts of red flags.
        Just consider this partial list of those affiliated with this
president 
who have somehow, mysteriously, met with  deadly misfortune:
        *       VINCENT FOSTER - highly suspicious suicide. This 
longtime Clinton friend and  White House staffer had detailed 
knowledge of Clintons' personal finances and was reportedly 
distraught  over discoveries of Clinton illegalities. He made a phone 
call to Hillary Clinton in Little Rock shortly before  his death.
        *       PAULA GROBER - died in a suspicious one-car accident 
with no witnesses. She had  been Clinton's speech interpreter for 
deaf. She had traveled extensively with Clinton from 1978 until her  
death.
        *       GARY JOHNSON - beaten up but lived. He had tapes of 
Clinton's visits with Gennifer  Flowers. Two thugs beat him up and 
stole the tapes.
        *       FEDERAL AGENTS CONWAY LEBLEU, TODD 
MCKEEHAN,  ROBERT WILLIAMS, STEVE WILLIS - all killed 
at the Branch Davidian compound raid  near Waco, Texas. These 
men, formerly assigned to protect Clinton, died under highly 
suspicious  circumstances. Video tape and other evidence indicates 
none died from guns fired by Davidians. Allegedly,  all died of 
gunshots to the left temple.
        *       JERRY PARKS - murdered by unknown assailant. He was 
the owner of a security firm  which Clinton had used in his election 
campaign. Parks had information about sexual affairs and drug  
parties Clinton allegedly attended. Parks had threatened to go public 
if Clinton did not pay $81,000  outstanding bill. Parks' home was 
broken into hours before his death and the only thing taken was the  
documentation on Clinton.
        *       LUTHER PARKS - gunned down in his car. He had been 
the head of Clinton's  guberntorial security team in Arkansas. His 
family says shortly before death, they were being followed by  
unknown people Parks was making a dossier on Clinton's allegedly 
illicit activities. After his death, the file  on Clinton was stolen in a 
break-in at his home.
        *       C. VICTOR RAISER II - died in unexplained plane crash. 
He was the national finance  co-chairman for Clinton's presidential 
campaign. DeeDee Meyers described Raisor as "major player" in the  
campaign. Six others died in the still-unexplained plane crash.
        *       PAUL TULLY - died under mysterious circumstances. He 
was the Democratic National  Commitee Political Director and was 
described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor."
        *       JON WALKER - killed when he fell or was pushed off of 
Lincoln Towers building. He  was investigating Whitewater.
        *       PAUL WILCHER - found dead on toilet in apartment. This 
Washington attorney was  investigating alleged drug oporations out 
of Mena, Arkansas, to which Clinton allegedly had ties. He was  
planning to produce a T.V. documentary on his findings.
        *       ED WILLEY - died of a gunshot wound. This Clinton 
fundraiser's death was ruled a  suicide, but no note was found and no 
motive was identified.
        *       DANNY CASOLARO - died with his wrists slit. He had 
been investigating Clinton  scandals and had warned his family that 
he was in danger. He told his family if he was found dead of  accident 
or suicide not to believe it.
        And now, how did Ron Brown die?
         His plane crashed into a hill in Croatia. Conveniently, it had no 
"black box" recording what happened. Nor  did it have safety 
equipment required on such planes - and at least one U.S. Army 
officer had been been relieved  of command for refusing to put Brown 
on the plane that eventually killed him.
        "The Air Force T-43A that crashed, killing Commerce Secretary 
Ron Brown and his party," writes Rowan  Scarborough in the 
Washington Times, "lacked a widely available modern navigational 
aid for landing in bad  weather, Pentagon officials said."
        Officers at the Pentagon, who asked not to be named, wondered 
why a passenger jet used exclusively to  transport such an important 
member of the Clinton cabinet did not yet have the device or even an 
advanced radar that  would have let pilots know that they had been 
drawn two miles off course, according to Scarborough.
        The plane, indeed, lacked voice and flight data recorders - so-
called "black boxes" - which could have  resolved many of the 
lingering questions surrounding the mysterious crash.
        "One of the most difficult questions faced by investigators of the 
jet crash in Croatia that killed Commerce  Secretary Ron Brown and 
everyone else on board is whether the pilots took unnecessary risks to 
deliver their VIP  passengers," asked the New York Times.
         "Going strictly by the book, the pilots on Wednesday's flight to 
Dubrovnik could have been justified in  turning back from their 
approach to Dubrovnik's airport: The weather that day has been 
called the worst in a decade,  the airport was not equipped with 
modern precision landing aids, and the mountainous coastal terrain is 
tricky."
        According to the Associated Press, the U.S. Air Force 
commander of the squadron responsible for the plane  that crashed 
with Brown aboard was relieved of his command just before the crash 
because he raised concerns  about Brown's flight and those of other 
VIPs.
        Lt. Col. James Albright lost command of the 76th Airlift 
Squadron, based at Ramstein Air Base in Germany,  just five days 
before the crash.
        The Stars and Stripes, the unofficial military newspaper 
published for U.S. forces in Germany, quotes an  unidentified Air 
Force pilot as saying Albright was fired because he told his superiors 
he would refuse to allow the  T-43 to fly in conditions he considered 
unsafe.
        The pilot, who spoke to The Stars and Stripes on condition of 
anonymity, said Albright objected to "pressure  from above" to allow 
flights in areas where ground-based, computerized navigation devices 
had been destroyed or  removed during the recent fighting. Albright 
was especially opposed to such flights during foul weather, the pilot  
said.
         Brig. Gen. William E. Stevens has confirmed that he relieved 
Albright of his command just days before  Brown's crash and 
reassigned him to a staff job, because Albright had repeatedly taken 
actions not cleared by his  superiors. He went out of his way to do his 
job right, in other words - and did not just blindly follow orders. He  
was upset that VIPs were being put on planes that were not safe and 
lacked critical equipment.
        He would not shut up.
        So, he was relieved of his command and given a desk job.
        Did Brown's plane really need the navigational equipment that 
was missing? His plane was a T-43A, the  military version of the 
Boeing 737. All commercial versions of the plane are required by law 
to have the gear, which  would have kept it from slamming into the 
hill, which is called Sveti Ivan, or Saint John near Dubrovnik.
        The plane was strangely off the approach path to the airport, 
witnesses said.
        Actually, the plane almost cleared the hill. The wreckage was 
found only 50 yards below its crest.
        "A number of inhabitants of the villages along the Adriatic coast 
between Dubrovnik and the Cilipi airport said  they heard or saw a 
plane passing low above them some two miles inland off the route 
that planes heading to  Dubrovnik aiport usually take," reported 
Reuters journalist Davor Huic. "A straight line connects the crash site 
and  three villages - Gornji Brgat, Srebreno and Plat - where 
witnesses accounts offered the first consistent, albeit  sketchy 
reconstruction of those few crucial minutes following the last radio 
communication with the control tower,  after which the plane 
disappeared from radar screens."
        Ana and Miho Duplica from the village of Plat probably were 
the last people to see the plane only seconds  before it slammed into 
the top of the hill rising steeply only a few hundred yards from their 
home.
        Alerted by an unusual noise that was louder than the thunder of 
the storm raging outside, they came out of  their house just in time to 
spot a giant jet coming out of the thick fog.
        "The plane appeared from the clouds like a ghost," said Ana 
Duplica. "We said to one another: 'This plane  must be lost, it won't 
fare well."'
        "I came out and saw the plane coming out of the fog and going 
back into it," said Miho Duplica. "It flew just  above our heads, very, 
very low."
        When it disappeared towards the hill it was flying at under 900 
feet, Miho Duplica said.
        The Duplicas said they heard a change in the sound of the 
plane's engine when it disappeared towards the hill,  as if the pilot 
had tried to climb above the 2,300-foot peak after it suddenly came 
into view.
        "After it disappeared in the fog we heard a loud noise as if he 
was taking off. The sound changed and then  nothing," said Miho 
Duplica.
        Down the road in the village of Srebreno, Anto Kristovic, the 
owner of a small cafe, said he remembered well  the strange noise that 
forced him and his brother out of the cellar.
        "The plane went roaring just over our heads, it made an 
incredible noise," Kristovic said.
        "The normal flight path is on the far side of that hill, past the 
church and straight on," he said, pointing to a  small white church on 
the top of a ridge between his house and the sea. "Instead it came 
overhead."
        "The engine sounded unusual," said Kristovic, who said he had 
never witnessed anything like the crash in 20  years of living in the 
vicinity of an international airport.
        To the west, in the village of Brgat Gornji, the Basics family 
were cleaning up their war-ravaged home they  had just returned to 
three weeks ago.
        "The plane flew right over us. It was much louder than usual. 
When the planes are landing at Cilipi airport,  they go much further 
out towards the sea," Luce Basic said.
        The fact that the houses of the three families and the crash site 
lie on a straight line that runs about two miles  inland from the normal 
approach path indicated the plane may have veered off course well 
before slamming into the  hill.
        Why the pilot kept to the wrong course if he passed by at least 
two beacons, one at the level of Brgat and the  other off shore from 
Plat, remains to be explained by investigators.
        Military pilots said the T-43A pilot ordinarily would been 
relying on his global positioning system (GPS) that  is now relied on 
by many military pilots and is required on commercial airliners. The 
GPS could have pinpointed  the runway at Dubrovnik despite a 
blinding rainstorm as the plane approached the airport. GPS receives 
a satellite  signal that gives the plane's exact location.
        Instead, the pilots, Capt. Ashley Davis, the commanding officer, 
and Capt. Tim Schafer, had to rely on a  1950s system, a 
nondirectional beacon , that provides little information to the pilot 
and can be distorted by extreme  weather. GPS is especially critical in 
approaching airports like Dubrovnik that lack sophisticated 
equipment,  reported Reuters.
         So, who is to blame?
        Defense Secretary William Perry told the Associated Press, "It 
was a classic sort of an accident that good  instrumentation should be 
able to prevent." A Pentagon pilot quoted anonymously by AP 
disagreed. "Somebody  should ask the question why did you have a 
plane stationed in Germany and used for that purpose with the least  
ability to fly?"
        But why would anybody go to such trouble to get rid of a 
Clinton administration cabinet member? Did Ron  Brown pose any 
potential embarrassment to the Clinton re-election campaign?
        "Bill Clinton came to Washington promising there would be no 
stain on his administration - it would be free  of graft, corruption or 
any hint of wrongdoing," notes Jamie Dettmer, writing in the 
conservative journal Insight on  the News. "The highest ethical 
standards would be applied rigorously. Nominees for Cabinet posts 
would be  expected to meet stringent codes of conduct, boasted the 
president's then-transition director Warren Christopher.  There would 
be no Iran-Contra or Watergate scandals to poison the Clinton 
presidency. Four days after the election  the president-elect promised 
'the most ethical administration in the history of the Republic.'"
        However, even before Brown entered office, an air of suspicion 
hung over his business affairs.
         "A noted wheeler-dealer whose networking skills were more 
impressive even than Clinton's," writes  Dettmer, "Brown had done 
little to dispel the general wariness about his commercial practices. In 
a letter to Attorney  General Janet Reno, the chairman of the House 
Government Reform and Oversight Committee, Pennsylvania  
Republican Bill Clinger, complained, "For over a year, in response to 
direct questions posed to the secretary, I have  received inaccurate, 
incomplete and misleading responses, or no response at all" from 
Brown.
        In one instance, Brown failed to meet a request from the 
committee for information about ties between his  immediate family 
members and Corridor Broadcasting Corp, which is owned by Texas 
entrepreneur Nolanda  Hill. According to Clinger, Brown's daughter, 
Tracy, and his daughter-in-law, Tamara, both received money  from 
Corridor, a firm that defaulted on almost $40 million in loans held by 
government agencies and is itself the  subject of an inquiry by the 
Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
        At the center of the complicated allegations against Brown was 
the charge that he hid from Congress  $400,000 he received from 
another Hill firm, the First International Communications Corp. 
According to Brown,  there was no obligation on him to declare the 
$400,000 since it came in several different checks throughout 1993  
and was a payment by Hill for his stake in First International.
         Clinger claims Brown failed to release "any information to 
support his contention that these payments were  part of divestiture" 
transactions. Brown, in fact, had invested no money in the company 
when he became a partner  in 1990.
        Brown's role at First International was to provide political 
connections. He gave Hill an entree to the highest  circles of 
Democratic politics. Through Brown, then chairman of the 
Democratic National Committee, Hill was  appointed to serve on the 
party's convention-site selection committee. Did Brown's help stop 
there, before he  entered office? Clinger's aides have been trying to 
discover who secured an invitation for Hill to a select White  House 
lunch in the summer of 1993. Hill was the only guest at the lunch 
with the president who was not a CEO of  a company listed among 
the Fortune 500. Congressional investigators also are intrigued by a 
memo Hill wrote on  May 13,1993, asking Brown to arrange a 
meeting with Commerce officials for a business associate, John 
Foster.
         Clinton had tried to make a case that the press and Congress 
should not concern itself about any alleged  wrongdoing committed 
by Cabinet members prior to entering government.
        That has been one of his and Hillary's biggest defenses in the 
Whitewater case.
         However, charges were surfacing that Brown had been guilty of 
impropriety while in office.
        In particular, he failed to disclose his financial stake in another

business, Kellee Communications Inc.  Congressman Clinger claims 
that Brown's connections with Kellee posed a conflict of interest with 
his role as  Commerce secretary.
         Kellee has major pay-phone contracts with AT&T.
        Brown has helped AT&T win telecommunications-equipment 
deals overseas.
        The allegation is that as Secretary of Commerce, Brown was still 
lining his pockets, making deals that made  millions of dollars for him 
and his family
        In documents sent to Reno by Clinger, he says that as Commerce 
secretary, Brown "invited AT&T  executives to accompany him to 
Saudi Arabia. This trip, coupled with other efforts by the secretary, 
culminated in  the signing of a $4 billion contract for AT&T.... 
Although the Saudi contract may not have had a direct financial  
impact on Kellee, it resulted in increased good will toward the 
secretary, and presumably, Kellee Communications.  This enhanced 
good will was an important factor enabling Kellee to expand its 
AT&T joint venture."
        Clinger says Brown was corrupt.
        He rejects the liberals' claim that Republicans were being 
overzealous in their pursuit of Brown. "I don't think  we are 
overdoing things at all," he says. "There is ample justification for our 
investigations and there is a lot to be  looked at. In Brown's case, 
there are strong indications that abuses happened after he became 
Commerce  secretary."
        The Clinton administration has had its embarrassments.
        "Hardly a month has passed without some new controversy 
rocking the administration," notes Dettmer.  "First it was the travel 
office scandal, followed by Whitewater and the incidental departures 
>from  government of  White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum, 
Deputy Treasury Secretary Roger Altman and Associate Attorney  
General Webster Hubbell."
        Hubbell went to jail.
        "In all, five probes are underway," notes Dettmer. "Three are 
into the financial affairs of Commerce Secretary  Ron Brown who, 
until recently, had been slated by the president to head his re-election 
bid. Former Agriculture  Secretary Mike Espy, who contributed 
greatly to rallying the black vote for Clinton in Southern states during 
the  1992 campaign, is the subject of an ongoing independent-counsel 
inquiry."
        Transportation Secretary Federico Pena is accused of using his 
influence to help his former investment firm  secure a Los An 
contract. Former HEW Secretary Henry Cisneros understated the 
payments he made over a three- year period to his former mistress, 
Linda Medlar, a political fund-raiser. Cisneros told FBI agents 
checking his  background before Senate confirmation hearings that he 
gave money to Medlar from 1990 to 1992 as  compensation for her 
difficulty in securing a job after their affair had become public. He 
said he never paid her more  than $2,500 at a time and that yearly 
totals never exceeded $10,000. In fact, several of his payments 
exceeded  $2,500, and the yearly totals were between $42,000 and 
$60,000. In all, he gave Medlar over $200,000.
        Espy, Cisneros and Pena dutifully resigned.
        Clinton was able to wash his hands of them.
        But Brown would not.
        He refused to go.
        With the re-election campaign in full-swing now, there was vast 
potential for him to embarrass the Clintons.  And so, somehow, he 
has died in a plane crash. All over the nation, flags are at half-mast. 
He is being declared a  national hero and a role model for small 
children.
        That's a lot better for Bill Clinton than if a sitting cabinet 
member were jailed.
        An unrelenting, yearlong probe by Clinger had led to an 
extensive array of detailed allegations against Brown,  including 
charges that he violated federal laws by filing inaccurate financial 
disclosure reports that failed to indicate  income received from First 
International and that that Brown had illegally supplemented his 
federal salary, engaged  in potential conflicts of interest and provided 
false information to Congress about his financial circumstances.
        What about the accusations that he accepted bribes from the 
North Vietnamese Communists - in order to get  the Clinton 
administration to drop its trade embargo?
         A Vietnamese-American, Binh T. Ly, who is living in Florida, 
said Brown accepted $700,000 to help lift the  U.S. trade embargo 
against Vietnam. Then days later, he told the press the FBI ''told me 
that I should take serious  precautions because my life is in danger.'
         Ly told a news conference that the FBI told him ''that my life 
has been threatened.''
        Ly said Nguyen Van Hao, a former Communist Vietnamese 
government official who was his business  partner, had arranged a 
$700,000 payment to Brown. Ly passed an FBI polygraph test, but 
acknowledged that he  had no evidence to support his allegations.
        Was there anything to the case?
        According to the media watchdog group Accuracy in Media, 
Republicans were about to charge Brown with  perjury in his denials 
of accepting the North Vietnamese bribes.
        "Congressional Republicans are raising the specter that 
Commerce Secretary Ron Brown committed perjury  in his oft-
changed explanations about a purported $700,000 bribe offer from a 
Vietnamese businessman," reported  AIM. "In a startling new 
development, a person described as 'close to the National Security 
Council' told  Congressmen that Brown lied when he denied that he 
or his staff were involved in the Clinton Administration's  easing of 
trade restrictions on Vietnam.
        "This is in direct conflict with what Brown told the House 
Foreign Affairs Committee. Brown made clear at  the outset of the 
hearing that he did not intend to discuss allegations by Ly Thanh 
Binh, a Vietnamese-American  businessman from Florida, that he was 
offered $700,000 to help in normalizing U.S.-Vietnam economic 
relations.  The man on whose behalf the overture was supposedly 
made was Nguyen Van Hao, an official of the communist  
government."
        Brown told the Committee, "I am not going to answer any 
questions bearing on the grand jury investigation  in Miami. All I am 
here to talk about today are trade issues."
        Rep. Dan Burton (R.-Ind.) then asked Brown: "Can you tell us, 
Mr. Brown, about any involvement that  you or your staff may have 
had in relation to trade negotiations or the possibility of trade 
negotiations with the  Republic of Vietnam?"
        "I had no involvement with those, Congressman," Brown 
replied.
        Burton then repeated his question in tighter form, asking whether 
any of Brown's subordinates participated in  talks. Again, Brown 
gave a categorical denial, saying, "I answered that in the negative, 
Congressman." He  continued that "we're not going to have internal 
discussions about internal policy formation."
        Soon after Brown's testimony, Burton received a visit from a 
man he described as "a fellow who is close to  the National Security 
Council" who "thought this issue needed to be clarified and 
illuminated."
        Burton gave this account in a floor speech:
        On June 14, a "notice of principals meeting" was sent to 
secretaries of the various departments involved in  international trade, 
setting a "secretaries meeting" for 2 P. M. on June 16 in the White 
House situation room to  discuss a Vietnam options paper.
        As the source told Burton, there are three levels of NSC 
meetings: the "experts' level," at the bottom rung,  where technical 
issues are discussed; the "deputies' level," where issues are clarified; 
and the "principals' level,"  which includes the secretaries of 
departments.
        The June 16 "principals' level" meeting to which Brown was 
invited involved an options paper on Vietnam  which had been 
discussed at the lower two levels. The NSC source told Burton that 
Brown would have been  briefed on the options paper prior to the 
June 16 meeting.
        In any event, the secretaries had two options before them when 
they gathered at the White House.
        According to Burton, "Option 1-A was to allow international 
financial initiatives, but to ease the embargo, to  start the racheting 
down of the embargo, so we could start normalizing relations with 
Vietnam. The majority of  those at the National Security Council 
approved that, but not the Department of Commerce.
        "The Department of Commerce supported Option No. 2 [which 
was to] lift the block on international financial  institutions, and to 
totally, completely, lift the embargo on Vietnam.
        "And do you know who pushed this the hardest? The 
Department of Commerce. Mr. Brown said he didn't  know anything 
about it, he said he never discussed it with anybody in his department, 
and yet at this deputies'  meeting his department was pushing harder, 
almost totally by itself, than anybody else to completely remove that  
embargo with Vietnam."
        The Indiana Republican's staff alerted Congressional reporters 
about the content of the speech, which was  seen on C- SPAN and 
printed in the Congressional Record. But the media ignored Burton's 
explosive revelations  - particularly his charges that Brown's 
conflicting answers on Vietnam put the Clinton Administration in 
jeopardy  of miring itself in scandal.
        "This could be another Watergate, or worse," Burton declared. 
"It stinks to high heaven."
        Burton noted that Brown's story about the Binh allegations has 
changed several times on significant points:
        * A spokesman for Brown denied that the Democratic politician 
had ever met Hao, a denial which Brown  personally gave to several 
Washington reporters in the summer. Then, however, Brown admitted 
having met with  Hao three times, including having dinner with him, 
giving him a tour of the Commerce Department, and sending  him a 
Christmas card.
        * Brown, both personally and through a spokesman, at first 
denied having read a letter Hao sent to Saigon  outlining a discussion 
he held with Brown about the $700,000 fee. But as Burton pointed 
out, Brown later said,  "'Yes, I believe I did read the letter from some 
government official over there.'" Burton continued, "It was the  
Prime Minister of Vietnam. So he has been caught in two or three 
falsehoods already."
        Based on his interviews with Binh, Burton also gave fresh 
details of the deal Brown allegedly tried to make  with the 
Vietnamese. He said, "One of these items, according to Mr. Ly [Binh] 
was that Mr. Brown would have  exclusive contractual rights to 
American businesses that went over there from the Vietnamese side.
        "In other words, he was to get a cut of the 100 or 150 American 
businesses that he would take into Vietnam,  and he would be in 
essence, the beneficiary of any profit made by the Vietnamese 
government, or at least a  percentage of that.
        "In addition, Mr. Ly [Binh] indicated there was going to be huge 
oil-drilling exploration taking place, and that  Vietnam had the third-
largest oil reserves in the world...and that Mr. Brown was going to get 
royalties off of all the  oil that was sold by the Vietnamese 
Government to the United States, and other entities."
        According to Burton, Binh protested such lucrative fees being 
given to Brown and tried to pull back from the  deal. Whereupon, he 
said, Hao admonished him to be quiet, and he would also be given a 
percentage of any  profits. Later, a concerned Binh spoke with a 
friend in Louisiana, a father figure, who told him, "You ought to get  
out of that, because it is corrupt and a lot of people could go to jail."
        At this point Binh broke with Hao and began talking with the 
FBI, the media and Congressional staff  members.
        Then there were the charges that Brown was a slumlord - also 
very embarrassing to the Democrats and to  Clinton.
         "It has been argued in this age of contemporary politics that the 
Republican Party is the party for the wealthy,"  wrote Herb London in 
the conservative digest Human Events before Brown was killed. "The 
GOP is presumably  at war with working class America. Perhaps the 
most ardent and effective rhetorician for the Democrats in the  
political class war is Ron Brown, presently commerce secretary and 
formerly chairman of the Democratic National  Committee. Brown 
rarely gives a speech without making reference to Republican 
insensitivity to the plight of the  poor. It is his stock-in-trade.
        "Recently, however, it was reported that Secretary Brown reaped 
a generous tax break by investing in an  apartment complex declared 
partly 'unfit for human habitation' in Landover, Maryland. Housing 
inspectors for the  county investigating the houses owned in part by 
Brown found trash, debris, used condoms and human waste in  and 
around the buildings. Officials also noted broken windows, rotting 
door frames and wrecked vehicles on the  property.
        "Brown, already under investigation by the Justice Department 
for several of his business relationships,  invested $71,000 in this 
Landover housing project in 1983 and enjoyed approximately 
$175,000 in tax write-offs  in the years that followed. Brown claims 
he is a passive investor and doesn't know anything at all about the 
housing  project. A. Bruce Rozet, whose firm bought the company 
that manages the apartments, said, 'There would be no  reason for 
him [Brown] not to know the property he invested in.'
         "Last October, [now-resigned] Secretary of Housing and Urban 
Development Henry Cisneros charged that  Rozet 'got filthy rich off 
this program and he left filthy places behind him for people to live 
in.' No mention of Ron  Brown was made in that speech."
        "There is something quite remarkable about this story, which 
first appeared in the Los Angeles Times. As yet  no one has 
mentioned the fact that the Democratic leader best known for beating 
the drums of class warfare is  engaged in an investment designed to 
reduce his tax burden and, in the process, exploit the poor and put 
him in the  position of being a slumlord," writes London. "This, after 
all, is the same Ron Brown who accuses Republicans of  using a cut 
in the capital gains tax as a way of assisting wealthy patrons. This is 
the same Ron Brown who  contends that the Newt Gingrich-led 
Congress is taking advantage of poor children and unwed mothers.
        "Surely someone out there in medialand must recognize the 
gross hypocrisy in this man. Yet, thus far, there  has only been 
conspicuous silence. Could it be that Democrats and media 
panjandrums, who rely on a stereotypical  view of the protagonists in 
the class war of their making, don't know how to digest the imbroglio 
of one of their  faithful? It is hard to imagine a similar response from 
the press corps if Newt Gingrich, to cite one example, were  caught in 
a similar flim-flam tax deal.
        "If the Democrats wish to play the class-warfare theme song, the 
Republicans should play it as well. This time  the lyrics should 
include Ron Brown's investment strategy that has led directly to the 
privation and misery of the  people he invariably claims to defend."
        But now, no defense has to be made of Ron Brown.
        He has received a hero's burial.
        And you can just imagine the criticism that is going to rise 
against the conservative media for sullying the  memory of a martyr, 
fallen warrior and hero.
        Even if he was about to embarrass the Clintons just before his 
very convenient and timely death.
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Subject: Ron Brown's Body Lies A-Moulderin'...

But his truths are buried deep...

                WAS RON BROWN MURDERED?
   
 The following is from Christian Crusade Newspaper, P.O. Box 
    977, Tulsa, OK 74102, in its 44th year of publication. CCN can
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    copyright 1996 Christian Crusade Newspaper.
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        It was a politically timely death.
        Just as Bill Clinton's re-election campaign was swinging into 
full gear, just as Bob Dole emerged as the GOP  contender, just as the 
public was forgetting all the talk of Bill and Hillary's scandals, one of 
President Clinton's  biggest potential embarrassments was 
conveniently gone.
        Commerce Secretary Ron Brown had been surrounded by 
controversy since the day he first took office. The  former chairman 
of the Democratic Party had gotten the job as a political payback and 
was almost immediately  accused of taking bribes, selling his 
influence and investing in slum property to lessen his tax bills.
        Now, he was dead - killed in a suspicious plane crash in 
Croatia - and being hailed as a martyr, a national  hero, a fallen 
warrior, and a role model for inner-city children.
        It was just too convenient.
        Was he sacrificed?
        Given the list of Clinton associates who had met untimely deaths 
when they, too, embarrassed the President,  Brown's strange plane 
crash raises all sorts of red flags.
        Just consider this partial list of those affiliated with this
president 
who have somehow, mysteriously, met with  deadly misfortune:
        *       VINCENT FOSTER - highly suspicious suicide. This 
longtime Clinton friend and  White House staffer had detailed 
knowledge of Clintons' personal finances and was reportedly 
distraught  over discoveries of Clinton illegalities. He made a phone 
call to Hillary Clinton in Little Rock shortly before  his death.
        *       PAULA GROBER - died in a suspicious one-car accident 
with no witnesses. She had  been Clinton's speech interpreter for 
deaf. She had traveled extensively with Clinton from 1978 until her  
death.
        *       GARY JOHNSON - beaten up but lived. He had tapes of 
Clinton's visits with Gennifer  Flowers. Two thugs beat him up and 
stole the tapes.
        *       FEDERAL AGENTS CONWAY LEBLEU, TODD 
MCKEEHAN,  ROBERT WILLIAMS, STEVE WILLIS - all killed 
at the Branch Davidian compound raid  near Waco, Texas. These 
men, formerly assigned to protect Clinton, died under highly 
suspicious  circumstances. Video tape and other evidence indicates 
none died from guns fired by Davidians. Allegedly,  all died of 
gunshots to the left temple.
        *       JERRY PARKS - murdered by unknown assailant. He was 
the owner of a security firm  which Clinton had used in his election 
campaign. Parks had information about sexual affairs and drug  
parties Clinton allegedly attended. Parks had threatened to go public 
if Clinton did not pay $81,000  outstanding bill. Parks' home was 
broken into hours before his death and the only thing taken was the  
documentation on Clinton.
        *       LUTHER PARKS - gunned down in his car. He had been 
the head of Clinton's  guberntorial security team in Arkansas. His 
family says shortly before death, they were being followed by  
unknown people Parks was making a dossier on Clinton's allegedly 
illicit activities. After his death, the file  on Clinton was stolen in a 
break-in at his home.
        *       C. VICTOR RAISER II - died in unexplained plane crash. 
He was the national finance  co-chairman for Clinton's presidential 
campaign. DeeDee Meyers described Raisor as "major player" in the  
campaign. Six others died in the still-unexplained plane crash.
        *       PAUL TULLY - died under mysterious circumstances. He 
was the Democratic National  Commitee Political Director and was 
described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor."
        *       JON WALKER - killed when he fell or was pushed off of 
Lincoln Towers building. He  was investigating Whitewater.
        *       PAUL WILCHER - found dead on toilet in apartment. This 
Washington attorney was  investigating alleged drug oporations out 
of Mena, Arkansas, to which Clinton allegedly had ties. He was  
planning to produce a T.V. documentary on his findings.
        *       ED WILLEY - died of a gunshot wound. This Clinton 
fundraiser's death was ruled a  suicide, but no note was found and no 
motive was identified.
        *       DANNY CASOLARO - died with his wrists slit. He had 
been investigating Clinton  scandals and had warned his family that 
he was in danger. He told his family if he was found dead of  accident 
or suicide not to believe it.
        And now, how did Ron Brown die?
         His plane crashed into a hill in Croatia. Conveniently, it had no 
"black box" recording what happened. Nor  did it have safety 
equipment required on such planes - and at least one U.S. Army 
officer had been been relieved  of command for refusing to put Brown 
on the plane that eventually killed him.
        "The Air Force T-43A that crashed, killing Commerce Secretary 
Ron Brown and his party," writes Rowan  Scarborough in the 
Washington Times, "lacked a widely available modern navigational 
aid for landing in bad  weather, Pentagon officials said."
        Officers at the Pentagon, who asked not to be named, wondered 
why a passenger jet used exclusively to  transport such an important 
member of the Clinton cabinet did not yet have the device or even an 
advanced radar that  would have let pilots know that they had been 
drawn two miles off course, according to Scarborough.
        The plane, indeed, lacked voice and flight data recorders - so-
called "black boxes" - which could have  resolved many of the 
lingering questions surrounding the mysterious crash.
        "One of the most difficult questions faced by investigators of the 
jet crash in Croatia that killed Commerce  Secretary Ron Brown and 
everyone else on board is whether the pilots took unnecessary risks to 
deliver their VIP  passengers," asked the New York Times.
         "Going strictly by the book, the pilots on Wednesday's flight to 
Dubrovnik could have been justified in  turning back from their 
approach to Dubrovnik's airport: The weather that day has been 
called the worst in a decade,  the airport was not equipped with 
modern precision landing aids, and the mountainous coastal terrain is 
tricky."
        According to the Associated Press, the U.S. Air Force 
commander of the squadron responsible for the plane  that crashed 
with Brown aboard was relieved of his command just before the crash 
because he raised concerns  about Brown's flight and those of other 
VIPs.
        Lt. Col. James Albright lost command of the 76th Airlift 
Squadron, based at Ramstein Air Base in Germany,  just five days 
before the crash.
        The Stars and Stripes, the unofficial military newspaper 
published for U.S. forces in Germany, quotes an  unidentified Air 
Force pilot as saying Albright was fired because he told his superiors 
he would refuse to allow the  T-43 to fly in conditions he considered 
unsafe.
        The pilot, who spoke to The Stars and Stripes on condition of 
anonymity, said Albright objected to "pressure  from above" to allow 
flights in areas where ground-based, computerized navigation devices 
had been destroyed or  removed during the recent fighting. Albright 
was especially opposed to such flights during foul weather, the pilot  
said.
         Brig. Gen. William E. Stevens has confirmed that he relieved 
Albright of his command just days before  Brown's crash and 
reassigned him to a staff job, because Albright had repeatedly taken 
actions not cleared by his  superiors. He went out of his way to do his 
job right, in other words - and did not just blindly follow orders. He  
was upset that VIPs were being put on planes that were not safe and 
lacked critical equipment.
        He would not shut up.
        So, he was relieved of his command and given a desk job.
        Did Brown's plane really need the navigational equipment that 
was missing? His plane was a T-43A, the  military version of the 
Boeing 737. All commercial versions of the plane are required by law 
to have the gear, which  would have kept it from slamming into the 
hill, which is called Sveti Ivan, or Saint John near Dubrovnik.
        The plane was strangely off the approach path to the airport, 
witnesses said.
        Actually, the plane almost cleared the hill. The wreckage was 
found only 50 yards below its crest.
        "A number of inhabitants of the villages along the Adriatic coast 
between Dubrovnik and the Cilipi airport said  they heard or saw a 
plane passing low above them some two miles inland off the route 
that planes heading to  Dubrovnik aiport usually take," reported 
Reuters journalist Davor Huic. "A straight line connects the crash site 
and  three villages - Gornji Brgat, Srebreno and Plat - where 
witnesses accounts offered the first consistent, albeit  sketchy 
reconstruction of those few crucial minutes following the last radio 
communication with the control tower,  after which the plane 
disappeared from radar screens."
        Ana and Miho Duplica from the village of Plat probably were 
the last people to see the plane only seconds  before it slammed into 
the top of the hill rising steeply only a few hundred yards from their 
home.
        Alerted by an unusual noise that was louder than the thunder of 
the storm raging outside, they came out of  their house just in time to 
spot a giant jet coming out of the thick fog.
        "The plane appeared from the clouds like a ghost," said Ana 
Duplica. "We said to one another: 'This plane  must be lost, it won't 
fare well."'
        "I came out and saw the plane coming out of the fog and going 
back into it," said Miho Duplica. "It flew just  above our heads, very, 
very low."
        When it disappeared towards the hill it was flying at under 900 
feet, Miho Duplica said.
        The Duplicas said they heard a change in the sound of the 
plane's engine when it disappeared towards the hill,  as if the pilot 
had tried to climb above the 2,300-foot peak after it suddenly came 
into view.
        "After it disappeared in the fog we heard a loud noise as if he 
was taking off. The sound changed and then  nothing," said Miho 
Duplica.
        Down the road in the village of Srebreno, Anto Kristovic, the 
owner of a small cafe, said he remembered well  the strange noise that 
forced him and his brother out of the cellar.
        "The plane went roaring just over our heads, it made an 
incredible noise," Kristovic said.
        "The normal flight path is on the far side of that hill, past the 
church and straight on," he said, pointing to a  small white church on 
the top of a ridge between his house and the sea. "Instead it came 
overhead."
        "The engine sounded unusual," said Kristovic, who said he had 
never witnessed anything like the crash in 20  years of living in the 
vicinity of an international airport.
        To the west, in the village of Brgat Gornji, the Basics family 
were cleaning up their war-ravaged home they  had just returned to 
three weeks ago.
        "The plane flew right over us. It was much louder than usual. 
When the planes are landing at Cilipi airport,  they go much further 
out towards the sea," Luce Basic said.
        The fact that the houses of the three families and the crash site 
lie on a straight line that runs about two miles  inland from the normal 
approach path indicated the plane may have veered off course well 
before slamming into the  hill.
        Why the pilot kept to the wrong course if he passed by at least 
two beacons, one at the level of Brgat and the  other off shore from 
Plat, remains to be explained by investigators.
        Military pilots said the T-43A pilot ordinarily would been 
relying on his global positioning system (GPS) that  is now relied on 
by many military pilots and is required on commercial airliners. The 
GPS could have pinpointed  the runway at Dubrovnik despite a 
blinding rainstorm as the plane approached the airport. GPS receives 
a satellite  signal that gives the plane's exact location.
        Instead, the pilots, Capt. Ashley Davis, the commanding officer, 
and Capt. Tim Schafer, had to rely on a  1950s system, a 
nondirectional beacon , that provides little information to the pilot 
and can be distorted by extreme  weather. GPS is especially critical in 
approaching airports like Dubrovnik that lack sophisticated 
equipment,  reported Reuters.
         So, who is to blame?
        Defense Secretary William Perry told the Associated Press, "It 
was a classic sort of an accident that good  instrumentation should be 
able to prevent." A Pentagon pilot quoted anonymously by AP 
disagreed. "Somebody  should ask the question why did you have a 
plane stationed in Germany and used for that purpose with the least  
ability to fly?"
        But why would anybody go to such trouble to get rid of a 
Clinton administration cabinet member? Did Ron  Brown pose any 
potential embarrassment to the Clinton re-election campaign?
        "Bill Clinton came to Washington promising there would be no 
stain on his administration - it would be free  of graft, corruption or 
any hint of wrongdoing," notes Jamie Dettmer, writing in the 
conservative journal Insight on  the News. "The highest ethical 
standards would be applied rigorously. Nominees for Cabinet posts 
would be  expected to meet stringent codes of conduct, boasted the 
president's then-transition director Warren Christopher.  There would 
be no Iran-Contra or Watergate scandals to poison the Clinton 
presidency. Four days after the election  the president-elect promised 
'the most ethical administration in the history of the Republic.'"
        However, even before Brown entered office, an air of suspicion 
hung over his business affairs.
         "A noted wheeler-dealer whose networking skills were more 
impressive even than Clinton's," writes  Dettmer, "Brown had done 
little to dispel the general wariness about his commercial practices. In 
a letter to Attorney  General Janet Reno, the chairman of the House 
Government Reform and Oversight Committee, Pennsylvania  
Republican Bill Clinger, complained, "For over a year, in response to 
direct questions posed to the secretary, I have  received inaccurate, 
incomplete and misleading responses, or no response at all" from 
Brown.
        In one instance, Brown failed to meet a request from the 
committee for information about ties between his  immediate family 
members and Corridor Broadcasting Corp, which is owned by Texas 
entrepreneur Nolanda  Hill. According to Clinger, Brown's daughter, 
Tracy, and his daughter-in-law, Tamara, both received money  from 
Corridor, a firm that defaulted on almost $40 million in loans held by 
government agencies and is itself the  subject of an inquiry by the 
Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
        At the center of the complicated allegations against Brown was 
the charge that he hid from Congress  $400,000 he received from 
another Hill firm, the First International Communications Corp. 
According to Brown,  there was no obligation on him to declare the 
$400,000 since it came in several different checks throughout 1993  
and was a payment by Hill for his stake in First International.
         Clinger claims Brown failed to release "any information to 
support his contention that these payments were  part of divestiture" 
transactions. Brown, in fact, had invested no money in the company 
when he became a partner  in 1990.
        Brown's role at First International was to provide political 
connections. He gave Hill an entree to the highest  circles of 
Democratic politics. Through Brown, then chairman of the 
Democratic National Committee, Hill was  appointed to serve on the 
party's convention-site selection committee. Did Brown's help stop 
there, before he  entered office? Clinger's aides have been trying to 
discover who secured an invitation for Hill to a select White  House 
lunch in the summer of 1993. Hill was the only guest at the lunch 
with the president who was not a CEO of  a company listed among 
the Fortune 500. Congressional investigators also are intrigued by a 
memo Hill wrote on  May 13,1993, asking Brown to arrange a 
meeting with Commerce officials for a business associate, John 
Foster.
         Clinton had tried to make a case that the press and Congress 
should not concern itself about any alleged  wrongdoing committed 
by Cabinet members prior to entering government.
        That has been one of his and Hillary's biggest defenses in the 
Whitewater case.
         However, charges were surfacing that Brown had been guilty of 
impropriety while in office.
        In particular, he failed to disclose his financial stake in another

business, Kellee Communications Inc.  Congressman Clinger claims 
that Brown's connections with Kellee posed a conflict of interest with 
his role as  Commerce secretary.
         Kellee has major pay-phone contracts with AT&T.
        Brown has helped AT&T win telecommunications-equipment 
deals overseas.
        The allegation is that as Secretary of Commerce, Brown was still 
lining his pockets, making deals that made  millions of dollars for him 
and his family
        In documents sent to Reno by Clinger, he says that as Commerce 
secretary, Brown "invited AT&T  executives to accompany him to 
Saudi Arabia. This trip, coupled with other efforts by the secretary, 
culminated in  the signing of a $4 billion contract for AT&T.... 
Although the Saudi contract may not have had a direct financial  
impact on Kellee, it resulted in increased good will toward the 
secretary, and presumably, Kellee Communications.  This enhanced 
good will was an important factor enabling Kellee to expand its 
AT&T joint venture."
        Clinger says Brown was corrupt.
        He rejects the liberals' claim that Republicans were being 
overzealous in their pursuit of Brown. "I don't think  we are 
overdoing things at all," he says. "There is ample justification for our 
investigations and there is a lot to be  looked at. In Brown's case, 
there are strong indications that abuses happened after he became 
Commerce  secretary."
        The Clinton administration has had its embarrassments.
        "Hardly a month has passed without some new controversy 
rocking the administration," notes Dettmer.  "First it was the travel 
office scandal, followed by Whitewater and the incidental departures 
>from  government of  White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum, 
Deputy Treasury Secretary Roger Altman and Associate Attorney  
General Webster Hubbell."
        Hubbell went to jail.
        "In all, five probes are underway," notes Dettmer. "Three are 
into the financial affairs of Commerce Secretary  Ron Brown who, 
until recently, had been slated by the president to head his re-election 
bid. Former Agriculture  Secretary Mike Espy, who contributed 
greatly to rallying the black vote for Clinton in Southern states during 
the  1992 campaign, is the subject of an ongoing independent-counsel 
inquiry."
        Transportation Secretary Federico Pena is accused of using his 
influence to help his former investment firm  secure a Los An 
contract. Former HEW Secretary Henry Cisneros understated the 
payments he made over a three- year period to his former mistress, 
Linda Medlar, a political fund-raiser. Cisneros told FBI agents 
checking his  background before Senate confirmation hearings that he 
gave money to Medlar from 1990 to 1992 as  compensation for her 
difficulty in securing a job after their affair had become public. He 
said he never paid her more  than $2,500 at a time and that yearly 
totals never exceeded $10,000. In fact, several of his payments 
exceeded  $2,500, and the yearly totals were between $42,000 and 
$60,000. In all, he gave Medlar over $200,000.
        Espy, Cisneros and Pena dutifully resigned.
        Clinton was able to wash his hands of them.
        But Brown would not.
        He refused to go.
        With the re-election campaign in full-swing now, there was vast 
potential for him to embarrass the Clintons.  And so, somehow, he 
has died in a plane crash. All over the nation, flags are at half-mast. 
He is being declared a  national hero and a role model for small 
children.
        That's a lot better for Bill Clinton than if a sitting cabinet 
member were jailed.
        An unrelenting, yearlong probe by Clinger had led to an 
extensive array of detailed allegations against Brown,  including 
charges that he violated federal laws by filing inaccurate financial 
disclosure reports that failed to indicate  income received from First 
International and that that Brown had illegally supplemented his 
federal salary, engaged  in potential conflicts of interest and provided 
false information to Congress about his financial circumstances.
        What about the accusations that he accepted bribes from the 
North Vietnamese Communists - in order to get  the Clinton 
administration to drop its trade embargo?
         A Vietnamese-American, Binh T. Ly, who is living in Florida, 
said Brown accepted $700,000 to help lift the  U.S. trade embargo 
against Vietnam. Then days later, he told the press the FBI ''told me 
that I should take serious  precautions because my life is in danger.'
         Ly told a news conference that the FBI told him ''that my life 
has been threatened.''
        Ly said Nguyen Van Hao, a former Communist Vietnamese 
government official who was his business  partner, had arranged a 
$700,000 payment to Brown. Ly passed an FBI polygraph test, but 
acknowledged that he  had no evidence to support his allegations.
        Was there anything to the case?
        According to the media watchdog group Accuracy in Media, 
Republicans were about to charge Brown with  perjury in his denials 
of accepting the North Vietnamese bribes.
        "Congressional Republicans are raising the specter that 
Commerce Secretary Ron Brown committed perjury  in his oft-
changed explanations about a purported $700,000 bribe offer from a 
Vietnamese businessman," reported  AIM. "In a startling new 
development, a person described as 'close to the National Security 
Council' told  Congressmen that Brown lied when he denied that he 
or his staff were involved in the Clinton Administration's  easing of 
trade restrictions on Vietnam.
        "This is in direct conflict with what Brown told the House 
Foreign Affairs Committee. Brown made clear at  the outset of the 
hearing that he did not intend to discuss allegations by Ly Thanh 
Binh, a Vietnamese-American  businessman from Florida, that he was 
offered $700,000 to help in normalizing U.S.-Vietnam economic 
relations.  The man on whose behalf the overture was supposedly 
made was Nguyen Van Hao, an official of the communist  
government."
        Brown told the Committee, "I am not going to answer any 
questions bearing on the grand jury investigation  in Miami. All I am 
here to talk about today are trade issues."
        Rep. Dan Burton (R.-Ind.) then asked Brown: "Can you tell us, 
Mr. Brown, about any involvement that  you or your staff may have 
had in relation to trade negotiations or the possibility of trade 
negotiations with the  Republic of Vietnam?"
        "I had no involvement with those, Congressman," Brown 
replied.
        Burton then repeated his question in tighter form, asking whether 
any of Brown's subordinates participated in  talks. Again, Brown 
gave a categorical denial, saying, "I answered that in the negative, 
Congressman." He  continued that "we're not going to have internal 
discussions about internal policy formation."
        Soon after Brown's testimony, Burton received a visit from a 
man he described as "a fellow who is close to  the National Security 
Council" who "thought this issue needed to be clarified and 
illuminated."
        Burton gave this account in a floor speech:
        On June 14, a "notice of principals meeting" was sent to 
secretaries of the various departments involved in  international trade, 
setting a "secretaries meeting" for 2 P. M. on June 16 in the White 
House situation room to  discuss a Vietnam options paper.
        As the source told Burton, there are three levels of NSC 
meetings: the "experts' level," at the bottom rung,  where technical 
issues are discussed; the "deputies' level," where issues are clarified; 
and the "principals' level,"  which includes the secretaries of 
departments.
        The June 16 "principals' level" meeting to which Brown was 
invited involved an options paper on Vietnam  which had been 
discussed at the lower two levels. The NSC source told Burton that 
Brown would have been  briefed on the options paper prior to the 
June 16 meeting.
        In any event, the secretaries had two options before them when 
they gathered at the White House.
        According to Burton, "Option 1-A was to allow international 
financial initiatives, but to ease the embargo, to  start the racheting 
down of the embargo, so we could start normalizing relations with 
Vietnam. The majority of  those at the National Security Council 
approved that, but not the Department of Commerce.
        "The Department of Commerce supported Option No. 2 [which 
was to] lift the block on international financial  institutions, and to 
totally, completely, lift the embargo on Vietnam.
        "And do you know who pushed this the hardest? The 
Department of Commerce. Mr. Brown said he didn't  know anything 
about it, he said he never discussed it with anybody in his department, 
and yet at this deputies'  meeting his department was pushing harder, 
almost totally by itself, than anybody else to completely remove that  
embargo with Vietnam."
        The Indiana Republican's staff alerted Congressional reporters 
about the content of the speech, which was  seen on C- SPAN and 
printed in the Congressional Record. But the media ignored Burton's 
explosive revelations  - particularly his charges that Brown's 
conflicting answers on Vietnam put the Clinton Administration in 
jeopardy  of miring itself in scandal.
        "This could be another Watergate, or worse," Burton declared. 
"It stinks to high heaven."
        Burton noted that Brown's story about the Binh allegations has 
changed several times on significant points:
        * A spokesman for Brown denied that the Democratic politician 
had ever met Hao, a denial which Brown  personally gave to several 
Washington reporters in the summer. Then, however, Brown admitted 
having met with  Hao three times, including having dinner with him, 
giving him a tour of the Commerce Department, and sending  him a 
Christmas card.
        * Brown, both personally and through a spokesman, at first 
denied having read a letter Hao sent to Saigon  outlining a discussion 
he held with Brown about the $700,000 fee. But as Burton pointed 
out, Brown later said,  "'Yes, I believe I did read the letter from some 
government official over there.'" Burton continued, "It was the  
Prime Minister of Vietnam. So he has been caught in two or three 
falsehoods already."
        Based on his interviews with Binh, Burton also gave fresh 
details of the deal Brown allegedly tried to make  with the 
Vietnamese. He said, "One of these items, according to Mr. Ly [Binh] 
was that Mr. Brown would have  exclusive contractual rights to 
American businesses that went over there from the Vietnamese side.
        "In other words, he was to get a cut of the 100 or 150 American 
businesses that he would take into Vietnam,  and he would be in 
essence, the beneficiary of any profit made by the Vietnamese 
government, or at least a  percentage of that.
        "In addition, Mr. Ly [Binh] indicated there was going to be huge 
oil-drilling exploration taking place, and that  Vietnam had the third-
largest oil reserves in the world...and that Mr. Brown was going to get 
royalties off of all the  oil that was sold by the Vietnamese 
Government to the United States, and other entities."
        According to Burton, Binh protested such lucrative fees being 
given to Brown and tried to pull back from the  deal. Whereupon, he 
said, Hao admonished him to be quiet, and he would also be given a 
percentage of any  profits. Later, a concerned Binh spoke with a 
friend in Louisiana, a father figure, who told him, "You ought to get  
out of that, because it is corrupt and a lot of people could go to jail."
        At this point Binh broke with Hao and began talking with the 
FBI, the media and Congressional staff  members.
        Then there were the charges that Brown was a slumlord - also 
very embarrassing to the Democrats and to  Clinton.
         "It has been argued in this age of contemporary politics that the 
Republican Party is the party for the wealthy,"  wrote Herb London in 
the conservative digest Human Events before Brown was killed. "The 
GOP is presumably  at war with working class America. Perhaps the 
most ardent and effective rhetorician for the Democrats in the  
political class war is Ron Brown, presently commerce secretary and 
formerly chairman of the Democratic National  Committee. Brown 
rarely gives a speech without making reference to Republican 
insensitivity to the plight of the  poor. It is his stock-in-trade.
        "Recently, however, it was reported that Secretary Brown reaped 
a generous tax break by investing in an  apartment complex declared 
partly 'unfit for human habitation' in Landover, Maryland. Housing 
inspectors for the  county investigating the houses owned in part by 
Brown found trash, debris, used condoms and human waste in  and 
around the buildings. Officials also noted broken windows, rotting 
door frames and wrecked vehicles on the  property.
        "Brown, already under investigation by the Justice Department 
for several of his business relationships,  invested $71,000 in this 
Landover housing project in 1983 and enjoyed approximately 
$175,000 in tax write-offs  in the years that followed. Brown claims 
he is a passive investor and doesn't know anything at all about the 
housing  project. A. Bruce Rozet, whose firm bought the company 
that manages the apartments, said, 'There would be no  reason for 
him [Brown] not to know the property he invested in.'
         "Last October, [now-resigned] Secretary of Housing and Urban 
Development Henry Cisneros charged that  Rozet 'got filthy rich off 
this program and he left filthy places behind him for people to live 
in.' No mention of Ron  Brown was made in that speech."
        "There is something quite remarkable about this story, which 
first appeared in the Los Angeles Times. As yet  no one has 
mentioned the fact that the Democratic leader best known for beating 
the drums of class warfare is  engaged in an investment designed to 
reduce his tax burden and, in the process, exploit the poor and put 
him in the  position of being a slumlord," writes London. "This, after 
all, is the same Ron Brown who accuses Republicans of  using a cut 
in the capital gains tax as a way of assisting wealthy patrons. This is 
the same Ron Brown who  contends that the Newt Gingrich-led 
Congress is taking advantage of poor children and unwed mothers.
        "Surely someone out there in medialand must recognize the 
gross hypocrisy in this man. Yet, thus far, there  has only been 
conspicuous silence. Could it be that Democrats and media 
panjandrums, who rely on a stereotypical  view of the protagonists in 
the class war of their making, don't know how to digest the imbroglio 
of one of their  faithful? It is hard to imagine a similar response from 
the press corps if Newt Gingrich, to cite one example, were  caught in 
a similar flim-flam tax deal.
        "If the Democrats wish to play the class-warfare theme song, the 
Republicans should play it as well. This time  the lyrics should 
include Ron Brown's investment strategy that has led directly to the 
privation and misery of the  people he invariably claims to defend."
        But now, no defense has to be made of Ron Brown.
        He has received a hero's burial.
        And you can just imagine the criticism that is going to rise 
against the conservative media for sullying the  memory of a martyr, 
fallen warrior and hero.
        Even if he was about to embarrass the Clintons just before his 
very convenient and timely death.
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Subject: Ron Brown's Body Lies A-Moulderin'...

But his truths are buried deep...

                WAS RON BROWN MURDERED?
   
 The following is from Christian Crusade Newspaper, P.O. Box 
    977, Tulsa, OK 74102, in its 44th year of publication. CCN can
    be E-mailed on America On Line as Christcrew, on Compuserve 
    at 72204,541, and via the Internet as Christcrew@aol.com .
    copyright 1996 Christian Crusade Newspaper.
    Permission is granted for this article to be used in newsletters, on 
    computer BBSs or other otherwise published, provided that 
    attribution to Christian Crusade Newspaper is included. 

        It was a politically timely death.
        Just as Bill Clinton's re-election campaign was swinging into 
full gear, just as Bob Dole emerged as the GOP  contender, just as the 
public was forgetting all the talk of Bill and Hillary's scandals, one of 
President Clinton's  biggest potential embarrassments was 
conveniently gone.
        Commerce Secretary Ron Brown had been surrounded by 
controversy since the day he first took office. The  former chairman 
of the Democratic Party had gotten the job as a political payback and 
was almost immediately  accused of taking bribes, selling his 
influence and investing in slum property to lessen his tax bills.
        Now, he was dead - killed in a suspicious plane crash in 
Croatia - and being hailed as a martyr, a national  hero, a fallen 
warrior, and a role model for inner-city children.
        It was just too convenient.
        Was he sacrificed?
        Given the list of Clinton associates who had met untimely deaths 
when they, too, embarrassed the President,  Brown's strange plane 
crash raises all sorts of red flags.
        Just consider this partial list of those affiliated with this
president 
who have somehow, mysteriously, met with  deadly misfortune:
        *       VINCENT FOSTER - highly suspicious suicide. This 
longtime Clinton friend and  White House staffer had detailed 
knowledge of Clintons' personal finances and was reportedly 
distraught  over discoveries of Clinton illegalities. He made a phone 
call to Hillary Clinton in Little Rock shortly before  his death.
        *       PAULA GROBER - died in a suspicious one-car accident 
with no witnesses. She had  been Clinton's speech interpreter for 
deaf. She had traveled extensively with Clinton from 1978 until her  
death.
        *       GARY JOHNSON - beaten up but lived. He had tapes of 
Clinton's visits with Gennifer  Flowers. Two thugs beat him up and 
stole the tapes.
        *       FEDERAL AGENTS CONWAY LEBLEU, TODD 
MCKEEHAN,  ROBERT WILLIAMS, STEVE WILLIS - all killed 
at the Branch Davidian compound raid  near Waco, Texas. These 
men, formerly assigned to protect Clinton, died under highly 
suspicious  circumstances. Video tape and other evidence indicates 
none died from guns fired by Davidians. Allegedly,  all died of 
gunshots to the left temple.
        *       JERRY PARKS - murdered by unknown assailant. He was 
the owner of a security firm  which Clinton had used in his election 
campaign. Parks had information about sexual affairs and drug  
parties Clinton allegedly attended. Parks had threatened to go public 
if Clinton did not pay $81,000  outstanding bill. Parks' home was 
broken into hours before his death and the only thing taken was the  
documentation on Clinton.
        *       LUTHER PARKS - gunned down in his car. He had been 
the head of Clinton's  guberntorial security team in Arkansas. His 
family says shortly before death, they were being followed by  
unknown people Parks was making a dossier on Clinton's allegedly 
illicit activities. After his death, the file  on Clinton was stolen in a 
break-in at his home.
        *       C. VICTOR RAISER II - died in unexplained plane crash. 
He was the national finance  co-chairman for Clinton's presidential 
campaign. DeeDee Meyers described Raisor as "major player" in the  
campaign. Six others died in the still-unexplained plane crash.
        *       PAUL TULLY - died under mysterious circumstances. He 
was the Democratic National  Commitee Political Director and was 
described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor."
        *       JON WALKER - killed when he fell or was pushed off of 
Lincoln Towers building. He  was investigating Whitewater.
        *       PAUL WILCHER - found dead on toilet in apartment. This 
Washington attorney was  investigating alleged drug oporations out 
of Mena, Arkansas, to which Clinton allegedly had ties. He was  
planning to produce a T.V. documentary on his findings.
        *       ED WILLEY - died of a gunshot wound. This Clinton 
fundraiser's death was ruled a  suicide, but no note was found and no 
motive was identified.
        *       DANNY CASOLARO - died with his wrists slit. He had 
been investigating Clinton  scandals and had warned his family that 
he was in danger. He told his family if he was found dead of  accident 
or suicide not to believe it.
        And now, how did Ron Brown die?
         His plane crashed into a hill in Croatia. Conveniently, it had no 
"black box" recording what happened. Nor  did it have safety 
equipment required on such planes - and at least one U.S. Army 
officer had been been relieved  of command for refusing to put Brown 
on the plane that eventually killed him.
        "The Air Force T-43A that crashed, killing Commerce Secretary 
Ron Brown and his party," writes Rowan  Scarborough in the 
Washington Times, "lacked a widely available modern navigational 
aid for landing in bad  weather, Pentagon officials said."
        Officers at the Pentagon, who asked not to be named, wondered 
why a passenger jet used exclusively to  transport such an important 
member of the Clinton cabinet did not yet have the device or even an 
advanced radar that  would have let pilots know that they had been 
drawn two miles off course, according to Scarborough.
        The plane, indeed, lacked voice and flight data recorders - so-
called "black boxes" - which could have  resolved many of the 
lingering questions surrounding the mysterious crash.
        "One of the most difficult questions faced by investigators of the 
jet crash in Croatia that killed Commerce  Secretary Ron Brown and 
everyone else on board is whether the pilots took unnecessary risks to 
deliver their VIP  passengers," asked the New York Times.
         "Going strictly by the book, the pilots on Wednesday's flight to 
Dubrovnik could have been justified in  turning back from their 
approach to Dubrovnik's airport: The weather that day has been 
called the worst in a decade,  the airport was not equipped with 
modern precision landing aids, and the mountainous coastal terrain is 
tricky."
        According to the Associated Press, the U.S. Air Force 
commander of the squadron responsible for the plane  that crashed 
with Brown aboard was relieved of his command just before the crash 
because he raised concerns  about Brown's flight and those of other 
VIPs.
        Lt. Col. James Albright lost command of the 76th Airlift 
Squadron, based at Ramstein Air Base in Germany,  just five days 
before the crash.
        The Stars and Stripes, the unofficial military newspaper 
published for U.S. forces in Germany, quotes an  unidentified Air 
Force pilot as saying Albright was fired because he told his superiors 
he would refuse to allow the  T-43 to fly in conditions he considered 
unsafe.
        The pilot, who spoke to The Stars and Stripes on condition of 
anonymity, said Albright objected to "pressure  from above" to allow 
flights in areas where ground-based, computerized navigation devices 
had been destroyed or  removed during the recent fighting. Albright 
was especially opposed to such flights during foul weather, the pilot  
said.
         Brig. Gen. William E. Stevens has confirmed that he relieved 
Albright of his command just days before  Brown's crash and 
reassigned him to a staff job, because Albright had repeatedly taken 
actions not cleared by his  superiors. He went out of his way to do his 
job right, in other words - and did not just blindly follow orders. He  
was upset that VIPs were being put on planes that were not safe and 
lacked critical equipment.
        He would not shut up.
        So, he was relieved of his command and given a desk job.
        Did Brown's plane really need the navigational equipment that 
was missing? His plane was a T-43A, the  military version of the 
Boeing 737. All commercial versions of the plane are required by law 
to have the gear, which  would have kept it from slamming into the 
hill, which is called Sveti Ivan, or Saint John near Dubrovnik.
        The plane was strangely off the approach path to the airport, 
witnesses said.
        Actually, the plane almost cleared the hill. The wreckage was 
found only 50 yards below its crest.
        "A number of inhabitants of the villages along the Adriatic coast 
between Dubrovnik and the Cilipi airport said  they heard or saw a 
plane passing low above them some two miles inland off the route 
that planes heading to  Dubrovnik aiport usually take," reported 
Reuters journalist Davor Huic. "A straight line connects the crash site 
and  three villages - Gornji Brgat, Srebreno and Plat - where 
witnesses accounts offered the first consistent, albeit  sketchy 
reconstruction of those few crucial minutes following the last radio 
communication with the control tower,  after which the plane 
disappeared from radar screens."
        Ana and Miho Duplica from the village of Plat probably were 
the last people to see the plane only seconds  before it slammed into 
the top of the hill rising steeply only a few hundred yards from their 
home.
        Alerted by an unusual noise that was louder than the thunder of 
the storm raging outside, they came out of  their house just in time to 
spot a giant jet coming out of the thick fog.
        "The plane appeared from the clouds like a ghost," said Ana 
Duplica. "We said to one another: 'This plane  must be lost, it won't 
fare well."'
        "I came out and saw the plane coming out of the fog and going 
back into it," said Miho Duplica. "It flew just  above our heads, very, 
very low."
        When it disappeared towards the hill it was flying at under 900 
feet, Miho Duplica said.
        The Duplicas said they heard a change in the sound of the 
plane's engine when it disappeared towards the hill,  as if the pilot 
had tried to climb above the 2,300-foot peak after it suddenly came 
into view.
        "After it disappeared in the fog we heard a loud noise as if he 
was taking off. The sound changed and then  nothing," said Miho 
Duplica.
        Down the road in the village of Srebreno, Anto Kristovic, the 
owner of a small cafe, said he remembered well  the strange noise that 
forced him and his brother out of the cellar.
        "The plane went roaring just over our heads, it made an 
incredible noise," Kristovic said.
        "The normal flight path is on the far side of that hill, past the 
church and straight on," he said, pointing to a  small white church on 
the top of a ridge between his house and the sea. "Instead it came 
overhead."
        "The engine sounded unusual," said Kristovic, who said he had 
never witnessed anything like the crash in 20  years of living in the 
vicinity of an international airport.
        To the west, in the village of Brgat Gornji, the Basics family 
were cleaning up their war-ravaged home they  had just returned to 
three weeks ago.
        "The plane flew right over us. It was much louder than usual. 
When the planes are landing at Cilipi airport,  they go much further 
out towards the sea," Luce Basic said.
        The fact that the houses of the three families and the crash site 
lie on a straight line that runs about two miles  inland from the normal 
approach path indicated the plane may have veered off course well 
before slamming into the  hill.
        Why the pilot kept to the wrong course if he passed by at least 
two beacons, one at the level of Brgat and the  other off shore from 
Plat, remains to be explained by investigators.
        Military pilots said the T-43A pilot ordinarily would been 
relying on his global positioning system (GPS) that  is now relied on 
by many military pilots and is required on commercial airliners. The 
GPS could have pinpointed  the runway at Dubrovnik despite a 
blinding rainstorm as the plane approached the airport. GPS receives 
a satellite  signal that gives the plane's exact location.
        Instead, the pilots, Capt. Ashley Davis, the commanding officer, 
and Capt. Tim Schafer, had to rely on a  1950s system, a 
nondirectional beacon , that provides little information to the pilot 
and can be distorted by extreme  weather. GPS is especially critical in 
approaching airports like Dubrovnik that lack sophisticated 
equipment,  reported Reuters.
         So, who is to blame?
        Defense Secretary William Perry told the Associated Press, "It 
was a classic sort of an accident that good  instrumentation should be 
able to prevent." A Pentagon pilot quoted anonymously by AP 
disagreed. "Somebody  should ask the question why did you have a 
plane stationed in Germany and used for that purpose with the least  
ability to fly?"
        But why would anybody go to such trouble to get rid of a 
Clinton administration cabinet member? Did Ron  Brown pose any 
potential embarrassment to the Clinton re-election campaign?
        "Bill Clinton came to Washington promising there would be no 
stain on his administration - it would be free  of graft, corruption or 
any hint of wrongdoing," notes Jamie Dettmer, writing in the 
conservative journal Insight on  the News. "The highest ethical 
standards would be applied rigorously. Nominees for Cabinet posts 
would be  expected to meet stringent codes of conduct, boasted the 
president's then-transition director Warren Christopher.  There would 
be no Iran-Contra or Watergate scandals to poison the Clinton 
presidency. Four days after the election  the president-elect promised 
'the most ethical administration in the history of the Republic.'"
        However, even before Brown entered office, an air of suspicion 
hung over his business affairs.
         "A noted wheeler-dealer whose networking skills were more 
impressive even than Clinton's," writes  Dettmer, "Brown had done 
little to dispel the general wariness about his commercial practices. In 
a letter to Attorney  General Janet Reno, the chairman of the House 
Government Reform and Oversight Committee, Pennsylvania  
Republican Bill Clinger, complained, "For over a year, in response to 
direct questions posed to the secretary, I have  received inaccurate, 
incomplete and misleading responses, or no response at all" from 
Brown.
        In one instance, Brown failed to meet a request from the 
committee for information about ties between his  immediate family 
members and Corridor Broadcasting Corp, which is owned by Texas 
entrepreneur Nolanda  Hill. According to Clinger, Brown's daughter, 
Tracy, and his daughter-in-law, Tamara, both received money  from 
Corridor, a firm that defaulted on almost $40 million in loans held by 
government agencies and is itself the  subject of an inquiry by the 
Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
        At the center of the complicated allegations against Brown was 
the charge that he hid from Congress  $400,000 he received from 
another Hill firm, the First International Communications Corp. 
According to Brown,  there was no obligation on him to declare the 
$400,000 since it came in several different checks throughout 1993  
and was a payment by Hill for his stake in First International.
         Clinger claims Brown failed to release "any information to 
support his contention that these payments were  part of divestiture" 
transactions. Brown, in fact, had invested no money in the company 
when he became a partner  in 1990.
        Brown's role at First International was to provide political 
connections. He gave Hill an entree to the highest  circles of 
Democratic politics. Through Brown, then chairman of the 
Democratic National Committee, Hill was  appointed to serve on the 
party's convention-site selection committee. Did Brown's help stop 
there, before he  entered office? Clinger's aides have been trying to 
discover who secured an invitation for Hill to a select White  House 
lunch in the summer of 1993. Hill was the only guest at the lunch 
with the president who was not a CEO of  a company listed among 
the Fortune 500. Congressional investigators also are intrigued by a 
memo Hill wrote on  May 13,1993, asking Brown to arrange a 
meeting with Commerce officials for a business associate, John 
Foster.
         Clinton had tried to make a case that the press and Congress 
should not concern itself about any alleged  wrongdoing committed 
by Cabinet members prior to entering government.
        That has been one of his and Hillary's biggest defenses in the 
Whitewater case.
         However, charges were surfacing that Brown had been guilty of 
impropriety while in office.
        In particular, he failed to disclose his financial stake in another

business, Kellee Communications Inc.  Congressman Clinger claims 
that Brown's connections with Kellee posed a conflict of interest with 
his role as  Commerce secretary.
         Kellee has major pay-phone contracts with AT&T.
        Brown has helped AT&T win telecommunications-equipment 
deals overseas.
        The allegation is that as Secretary of Commerce, Brown was still 
lining his pockets, making deals that made  millions of dollars for him 
and his family
        In documents sent to Reno by Clinger, he says that as Commerce 
secretary, Brown "invited AT&T  executives to accompany him to 
Saudi Arabia. This trip, coupled with other efforts by the secretary, 
culminated in  the signing of a $4 billion contract for AT&T.... 
Although the Saudi contract may not have had a direct financial  
impact on Kellee, it resulted in increased good will toward the 
secretary, and presumably, Kellee Communications.  This enhanced 
good will was an important factor enabling Kellee to expand its 
AT&T joint venture."
        Clinger says Brown was corrupt.
        He rejects the liberals' claim that Republicans were being 
overzealous in their pursuit of Brown. "I don't think  we are 
overdoing things at all," he says. "There is ample justification for our 
investigations and there is a lot to be  looked at. In Brown's case, 
there are strong indications that abuses happened after he became 
Commerce  secretary."
        The Clinton administration has had its embarrassments.
        "Hardly a month has passed without some new controversy 
rocking the administration," notes Dettmer.  "First it was the travel 
office scandal, followed by Whitewater and the incidental departures 
>from  government of  White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum, 
Deputy Treasury Secretary Roger Altman and Associate Attorney  
General Webster Hubbell."
        Hubbell went to jail.
        "In all, five probes are underway," notes Dettmer. "Three are 
into the financial affairs of Commerce Secretary  Ron Brown who, 
until recently, had been slated by the president to head his re-election 
bid. Former Agriculture  Secretary Mike Espy, who contributed 
greatly to rallying the black vote for Clinton in Southern states during 
the  1992 campaign, is the subject of an ongoing independent-counsel 
inquiry."
        Transportation Secretary Federico Pena is accused of using his 
influence to help his former investment firm  secure a Los An 
contract. Former HEW Secretary Henry Cisneros understated the 
payments he made over a three- year period to his former mistress, 
Linda Medlar, a political fund-raiser. Cisneros told FBI agents 
checking his  background before Senate confirmation hearings that he 
gave money to Medlar from 1990 to 1992 as  compensation for her 
difficulty in securing a job after their affair had become public. He 
said he never paid her more  than $2,500 at a time and that yearly 
totals never exceeded $10,000. In fact, several of his payments 
exceeded  $2,500, and the yearly totals were between $42,000 and 
$60,000. In all, he gave Medlar over $200,000.
        Espy, Cisneros and Pena dutifully resigned.
        Clinton was able to wash his hands of them.
        But Brown would not.
        He refused to go.
        With the re-election campaign in full-swing now, there was vast 
potential for him to embarrass the Clintons.  And so, somehow, he 
has died in a plane crash. All over the nation, flags are at half-mast. 
He is being declared a  national hero and a role model for small 
children.
        That's a lot better for Bill Clinton than if a sitting cabinet 
member were jailed.
        An unrelenting, yearlong probe by Clinger had led to an 
extensive array of detailed allegations against Brown,  including 
charges that he violated federal laws by filing inaccurate financial 
disclosure reports that failed to indicate  income received from First 
International and that that Brown had illegally supplemented his 
federal salary, engaged  in potential conflicts of interest and provided 
false information to Congress about his financial circumstances.
        What about the accusations that he accepted bribes from the 
North Vietnamese Communists - in order to get  the Clinton 
administration to drop its trade embargo?
         A Vietnamese-American, Binh T. Ly, who is living in Florida, 
said Brown accepted $700,000 to help lift the  U.S. trade embargo 
against Vietnam. Then days later, he told the press the FBI ''told me 
that I should take serious  precautions because my life is in danger.'
         Ly told a news conference that the FBI told him ''that my life 
has been threatened.''
        Ly said Nguyen Van Hao, a former Communist Vietnamese 
government official who was his business  partner, had arranged a 
$700,000 payment to Brown. Ly passed an FBI polygraph test, but 
acknowledged that he  had no evidence to support his allegations.
        Was there anything to the case?
        According to the media watchdog group Accuracy in Media, 
Republicans were about to charge Brown with  perjury in his denials 
of accepting the North Vietnamese bribes.
        "Congressional Republicans are raising the specter that 
Commerce Secretary Ron Brown committed perjury  in his oft-
changed explanations about a purported $700,000 bribe offer from a 
Vietnamese businessman," reported  AIM. "In a startling new 
development, a person described as 'close to the National Security 
Council' told  Congressmen that Brown lied when he denied that he 
or his staff were involved in the Clinton Administration's  easing of 
trade restrictions on Vietnam.
        "This is in direct conflict with what Brown told the House 
Foreign Affairs Committee. Brown made clear at  the outset of the 
hearing that he did not intend to discuss allegations by Ly Thanh 
Binh, a Vietnamese-American  businessman from Florida, that he was 
offered $700,000 to help in normalizing U.S.-Vietnam economic 
relations.  The man on whose behalf the overture was supposedly 
made was Nguyen Van Hao, an official of the communist  
government."
        Brown told the Committee, "I am not going to answer any 
questions bearing on the grand jury investigation  in Miami. All I am 
here to talk about today are trade issues."
        Rep. Dan Burton (R.-Ind.) then asked Brown: "Can you tell us, 
Mr. Brown, about any involvement that  you or your staff may have 
had in relation to trade negotiations or the possibility of trade 
negotiations with the  Republic of Vietnam?"
        "I had no involvement with those, Congressman," Brown 
replied.
        Burton then repeated his question in tighter form, asking whether 
any of Brown's subordinates participated in  talks. Again, Brown 
gave a categorical denial, saying, "I answered that in the negative, 
Congressman." He  continued that "we're not going to have internal 
discussions about internal policy formation."
        Soon after Brown's testimony, Burton received a visit from a 
man he described as "a fellow who is close to  the National Security 
Council" who "thought this issue needed to be clarified and 
illuminated."
        Burton gave this account in a floor speech:
        On June 14, a "notice of principals meeting" was sent to 
secretaries of the various departments involved in  international trade, 
setting a "secretaries meeting" for 2 P. M. on June 16 in the White 
House situation room to  discuss a Vietnam options paper.
        As the source told Burton, there are three levels of NSC 
meetings: the "experts' level," at the bottom rung,  where technical 
issues are discussed; the "deputies' level," where issues are clarified; 
and the "principals' level,"  which includes the secretaries of 
departments.
        The June 16 "principals' level" meeting to which Brown was 
invited involved an options paper on Vietnam  which had been 
discussed at the lower two levels. The NSC source told Burton that 
Brown would have been  briefed on the options paper prior to the 
June 16 meeting.
        In any event, the secretaries had two options before them when 
they gathered at the White House.
        According to Burton, "Option 1-A was to allow international 
financial initiatives, but to ease the embargo, to  start the racheting 
down of the embargo, so we could start normalizing relations with 
Vietnam. The majority of  those at the National Security Council 
approved that, but not the Department of Commerce.
        "The Department of Commerce supported Option No. 2 [which 
was to] lift the block on international financial  institutions, and to 
totally, completely, lift the embargo on Vietnam.
        "And do you know who pushed this the hardest? The 
Department of Commerce. Mr. Brown said he didn't  know anything 
about it, he said he never discussed it with anybody in his department, 
and yet at this deputies'  meeting his department was pushing harder, 
almost totally by itself, than anybody else to completely remove that  
embargo with Vietnam."
        The Indiana Republican's staff alerted Congressional reporters 
about the content of the speech, which was  seen on C- SPAN and 
printed in the Congressional Record. But the media ignored Burton's 
explosive revelations  - particularly his charges that Brown's 
conflicting answers on Vietnam put the Clinton Administration in 
jeopardy  of miring itself in scandal.
        "This could be another Watergate, or worse," Burton declared. 
"It stinks to high heaven."
        Burton noted that Brown's story about the Binh allegations has 
changed several times on significant points:
        * A spokesman for Brown denied that the Democratic politician 
had ever met Hao, a denial which Brown  personally gave to several 
Washington reporters in the summer. Then, however, Brown admitted 
having met with  Hao three times, including having dinner with him, 
giving him a tour of the Commerce Department, and sending  him a 
Christmas card.
        * Brown, both personally and through a spokesman, at first 
denied having read a letter Hao sent to Saigon  outlining a discussion 
he held with Brown about the $700,000 fee. But as Burton pointed 
out, Brown later said,  "'Yes, I believe I did read the letter from some 
government official over there.'" Burton continued, "It was the  
Prime Minister of Vietnam. So he has been caught in two or three 
falsehoods already."
        Based on his interviews with Binh, Burton also gave fresh 
details of the deal Brown allegedly tried to make  with the 
Vietnamese. He said, "One of these items, according to Mr. Ly [Binh] 
was that Mr. Brown would have  exclusive contractual rights to 
American businesses that went over there from the Vietnamese side.
        "In other words, he was to get a cut of the 100 or 150 American 
businesses that he would take into Vietnam,  and he would be in 
essence, the beneficiary of any profit made by the Vietnamese 
government, or at least a  percentage of that.
        "In addition, Mr. Ly [Binh] indicated there was going to be huge 
oil-drilling exploration taking place, and that  Vietnam had the third-
largest oil reserves in the world...and that Mr. Brown was going to get 
royalties off of all the  oil that was sold by the Vietnamese 
Government to the United States, and other entities."
        According to Burton, Binh protested such lucrative fees being 
given to Brown and tried to pull back from the  deal. Whereupon, he 
said, Hao admonished him to be quiet, and he would also be given a 
percentage of any  profits. Later, a concerned Binh spoke with a 
friend in Louisiana, a father figure, who told him, "You ought to get  
out of that, because it is corrupt and a lot of people could go to jail."
        At this point Binh broke with Hao and began talking with the 
FBI, the media and Congressional staff  members.
        Then there were the charges that Brown was a slumlord - also 
very embarrassing to the Democrats and to  Clinton.
         "It has been argued in this age of contemporary politics that the 
Republican Party is the party for the wealthy,"  wrote Herb London in 
the conservative digest Human Events before Brown was killed. "The 
GOP is presumably  at war with working class America. Perhaps the 
most ardent and effective rhetorician for the Democrats in the  
political class war is Ron Brown, presently commerce secretary and 
formerly chairman of the Democratic National  Committee. Brown 
rarely gives a speech without making reference to Republican 
insensitivity to the plight of the  poor. It is his stock-in-trade.
        "Recently, however, it was reported that Secretary Brown reaped 
a generous tax break by investing in an  apartment complex declared 
partly 'unfit for human habitation' in Landover, Maryland. Housing 
inspectors for the  county investigating the houses owned in part by 
Brown found trash, debris, used condoms and human waste in  and 
around the buildings. Officials also noted broken windows, rotting 
door frames and wrecked vehicles on the  property.
        "Brown, already under investigation by the Justice Department 
for several of his business relationships,  invested $71,000 in this 
Landover housing project in 1983 and enjoyed approximately 
$175,000 in tax write-offs  in the years that followed. Brown claims 
he is a passive investor and doesn't know anything at all about the 
housing  project. A. Bruce Rozet, whose firm bought the company 
that manages the apartments, said, 'There would be no  reason for 
him [Brown] not to know the property he invested in.'
         "Last October, [now-resigned] Secretary of Housing and Urban 
Development Henry Cisneros charged that  Rozet 'got filthy rich off 
this program and he left filthy places behind him for people to live 
in.' No mention of Ron  Brown was made in that speech."
        "There is something quite remarkable about this story, which 
first appeared in the Los Angeles Times. As yet  no one has 
mentioned the fact that the Democratic leader best known for beating 
the drums of class warfare is  engaged in an investment designed to 
reduce his tax burden and, in the process, exploit the poor and put 
him in the  position of being a slumlord," writes London. "This, after 
all, is the same Ron Brown who accuses Republicans of  using a cut 
in the capital gains tax as a way of assisting wealthy patrons. This is 
the same Ron Brown who  contends that the Newt Gingrich-led 
Congress is taking advantage of poor children and unwed mothers.
        "Surely someone out there in medialand must recognize the 
gross hypocrisy in this man. Yet, thus far, there  has only been 
conspicuous silence. Could it be that Democrats and media 
panjandrums, who rely on a stereotypical  view of the protagonists in 
the class war of their making, don't know how to digest the imbroglio 
of one of their  faithful? It is hard to imagine a similar response from 
the press corps if Newt Gingrich, to cite one example, were  caught in 
a similar flim-flam tax deal.
        "If the Democrats wish to play the class-warfare theme song, the 
Republicans should play it as well. This time  the lyrics should 
include Ron Brown's investment strategy that has led directly to the 
privation and misery of the  people he invariably claims to defend."
        But now, no defense has to be made of Ron Brown.
        He has received a hero's burial.
        And you can just imagine the criticism that is going to rise 
against the conservative media for sullying the  memory of a martyr, 
fallen warrior and hero.
        Even if he was about to embarrass the Clintons just before his 
very convenient and timely death.
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Moses' first and most difficult task was convincing the Israelites
they were slaves.
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"What has happened to our country when those who believe in the
Constitution are called extremists? What has happened to our country when
those who speak the truth are called right-wing radicals, and what has
happened to our country when a combat veteran sleeps in a cardboard box
while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House?" 
                                 - Charles R. Duke, April, 1996 
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People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its
Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as
to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness..." 
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CONTROLLED PRESS PUTS KITTY KELLY (wild with outrageous lies about the
Reagans) Book, rumors about Bush having an affair and ANITA HILL on FRONT
PAGES for MONTHS but when an FBI agent with a perfect record of 26 years
and having worked for 2 1/2 years INSIDE the WHITE HOUSE with his own
professional observations writes them down HIS views SLAMMED and/or
IGNORED by the ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT TOTALITARIAN CONTROLLED PRESS.

KITTY KELLY's Book was so packed with lies even the extreme leftist
reviewers had to admit it but still made remarks such as "but the book
does not necessarily completely misrepresent the truth".

Tenth-hand rumors about Bush were touted as if fully proved on the media.
Anita Hill (who later proved her grasp of the truth was tenuous at best)
offered her word against her boss and the press and Congress ran wild with
it as if fact for months though it was one person's word against another.

	ARREST the TRAITORS in D.C., ARREST the TRAITORS in the PRESS and
	RETURN OUR COUNTRY TO IT'S CONSTITUTION!
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Subject: Ron Brown's Body Lies A-Moulderin'...

But his truths are buried deep...

                WAS RON BROWN MURDERED?
   
 The following is from Christian Crusade Newspaper, P.O. Box 
    977, Tulsa, OK 74102, in its 44th year of publication. CCN can
    be E-mailed on America On Line as Christcrew, on Compuserve 
    at 72204,541, and via the Internet as Christcrew@aol.com .
    copyright 1996 Christian Crusade Newspaper.
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        It was a politically timely death.
        Just as Bill Clinton's re-election campaign was swinging into 
full gear, just as Bob Dole emerged as the GOP  contender, just as the 
public was forgetting all the talk of Bill and Hillary's scandals, one of 
President Clinton's  biggest potential embarrassments was 
conveniently gone.
        Commerce Secretary Ron Brown had been surrounded by 
controversy since the day he first took office. The  former chairman 
of the Democratic Party had gotten the job as a political payback and 
was almost immediately  accused of taking bribes, selling his 
influence and investing in slum property to lessen his tax bills.
        Now, he was dead - killed in a suspicious plane crash in 
Croatia - and being hailed as a martyr, a national  hero, a fallen 
warrior, and a role model for inner-city children.
        It was just too convenient.
        Was he sacrificed?
        Given the list of Clinton associates who had met untimely deaths 
when they, too, embarrassed the President,  Brown's strange plane 
crash raises all sorts of red flags.
        Just consider this partial list of those affiliated with this
president 
who have somehow, mysteriously, met with  deadly misfortune:
        *       VINCENT FOSTER - highly suspicious suicide. This 
longtime Clinton friend and  White House staffer had detailed 
knowledge of Clintons' personal finances and was reportedly 
distraught  over discoveries of Clinton illegalities. He made a phone 
call to Hillary Clinton in Little Rock shortly before  his death.
        *       PAULA GROBER - died in a suspicious one-car accident 
with no witnesses. She had  been Clinton's speech interpreter for 
deaf. She had traveled extensively with Clinton from 1978 until her  
death.
        *       GARY JOHNSON - beaten up but lived. He had tapes of 
Clinton's visits with Gennifer  Flowers. Two thugs beat him up and 
stole the tapes.
        *       FEDERAL AGENTS CONWAY LEBLEU, TODD 
MCKEEHAN,  ROBERT WILLIAMS, STEVE WILLIS - all killed 
at the Branch Davidian compound raid  near Waco, Texas. These 
men, formerly assigned to protect Clinton, died under highly 
suspicious  circumstances. Video tape and other evidence indicates 
none died from guns fired by Davidians. Allegedly,  all died of 
gunshots to the left temple.
        *       JERRY PARKS - murdered by unknown assailant. He was 
the owner of a security firm  which Clinton had used in his election 
campaign. Parks had information about sexual affairs and drug  
parties Clinton allegedly attended. Parks had threatened to go public 
if Clinton did not pay $81,000  outstanding bill. Parks' home was 
broken into hours before his death and the only thing taken was the  
documentation on Clinton.
        *       LUTHER PARKS - gunned down in his car. He had been 
the head of Clinton's  guberntorial security team in Arkansas. His 
family says shortly before death, they were being followed by  
unknown people Parks was making a dossier on Clinton's allegedly 
illicit activities. After his death, the file  on Clinton was stolen in a 
break-in at his home.
        *       C. VICTOR RAISER II - died in unexplained plane crash. 
He was the national finance  co-chairman for Clinton's presidential 
campaign. DeeDee Meyers described Raisor as "major player" in the  
campaign. Six others died in the still-unexplained plane crash.
        *       PAUL TULLY - died under mysterious circumstances. He 
was the Democratic National  Commitee Political Director and was 
described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor."
        *       JON WALKER - killed when he fell or was pushed off of 
Lincoln Towers building. He  was investigating Whitewater.
        *       PAUL WILCHER - found dead on toilet in apartment. This 
Washington attorney was  investigating alleged drug oporations out 
of Mena, Arkansas, to which Clinton allegedly had ties. He was  
planning to produce a T.V. documentary on his findings.
        *       ED WILLEY - died of a gunshot wound. This Clinton 
fundraiser's death was ruled a  suicide, but no note was found and no 
motive was identified.
        *       DANNY CASOLARO - died with his wrists slit. He had 
been investigating Clinton  scandals and had warned his family that 
he was in danger. He told his family if he was found dead of  accident 
or suicide not to believe it.
        And now, how did Ron Brown die?
         His plane crashed into a hill in Croatia. Conveniently, it had no 
"black box" recording what happened. Nor  did it have safety 
equipment required on such planes - and at least one U.S. Army 
officer had been been relieved  of command for refusing to put Brown 
on the plane that eventually killed him.
        "The Air Force T-43A that crashed, killing Commerce Secretary 
Ron Brown and his party," writes Rowan  Scarborough in the 
Washington Times, "lacked a widely available modern navigational 
aid for landing in bad  weather, Pentagon officials said."
        Officers at the Pentagon, who asked not to be named, wondered 
why a passenger jet used exclusively to  transport such an important 
member of the Clinton cabinet did not yet have the device or even an 
advanced radar that  would have let pilots know that they had been 
drawn two miles off course, according to Scarborough.
        The plane, indeed, lacked voice and flight data recorders - so-
called "black boxes" - which could have  resolved many of the 
lingering questions surrounding the mysterious crash.
        "One of the most difficult questions faced by investigators of the 
jet crash in Croatia that killed Commerce  Secretary Ron Brown and 
everyone else on board is whether the pilots took unnecessary risks to 
deliver their VIP  passengers," asked the New York Times.
         "Going strictly by the book, the pilots on Wednesday's flight to 
Dubrovnik could have been justified in  turning back from their 
approach to Dubrovnik's airport: The weather that day has been 
called the worst in a decade,  the airport was not equipped with 
modern precision landing aids, and the mountainous coastal terrain is 
tricky."
        According to the Associated Press, the U.S. Air Force 
commander of the squadron responsible for the plane  that crashed 
with Brown aboard was relieved of his command just before the crash 
because he raised concerns  about Brown's flight and those of other 
VIPs.
        Lt. Col. James Albright lost command of the 76th Airlift 
Squadron, based at Ramstein Air Base in Germany,  just five days 
before the crash.
        The Stars and Stripes, the unofficial military newspaper 
published for U.S. forces in Germany, quotes an  unidentified Air 
Force pilot as saying Albright was fired because he told his superiors 
he would refuse to allow the  T-43 to fly in conditions he considered 
unsafe.
        The pilot, who spoke to The Stars and Stripes on condition of 
anonymity, said Albright objected to "pressure  from above" to allow 
flights in areas where ground-based, computerized navigation devices 
had been destroyed or  removed during the recent fighting. Albright 
was especially opposed to such flights during foul weather, the pilot  
said.
         Brig. Gen. William E. Stevens has confirmed that he relieved 
Albright of his command just days before  Brown's crash and 
reassigned him to a staff job, because Albright had repeatedly taken 
actions not cleared by his  superiors. He went out of his way to do his 
job right, in other words - and did not just blindly follow orders. He  
was upset that VIPs were being put on planes that were not safe and 
lacked critical equipment.
        He would not shut up.
        So, he was relieved of his command and given a desk job.
        Did Brown's plane really need the navigational equipment that 
was missing? His plane was a T-43A, the  military version of the 
Boeing 737. All commercial versions of the plane are required by law 
to have the gear, which  would have kept it from slamming into the 
hill, which is called Sveti Ivan, or Saint John near Dubrovnik.
        The plane was strangely off the approach path to the airport, 
witnesses said.
        Actually, the plane almost cleared the hill. The wreckage was 
found only 50 yards below its crest.
        "A number of inhabitants of the villages along the Adriatic coast 
between Dubrovnik and the Cilipi airport said  they heard or saw a 
plane passing low above them some two miles inland off the route 
that planes heading to  Dubrovnik aiport usually take," reported 
Reuters journalist Davor Huic. "A straight line connects the crash site 
and  three villages - Gornji Brgat, Srebreno and Plat - where 
witnesses accounts offered the first consistent, albeit  sketchy 
reconstruction of those few crucial minutes following the last radio 
communication with the control tower,  after which the plane 
disappeared from radar screens."
        Ana and Miho Duplica from the village of Plat probably were 
the last people to see the plane only seconds  before it slammed into 
the top of the hill rising steeply only a few hundred yards from their 
home.
        Alerted by an unusual noise that was louder than the thunder of 
the storm raging outside, they came out of  their house just in time to 
spot a giant jet coming out of the thick fog.
        "The plane appeared from the clouds like a ghost," said Ana 
Duplica. "We said to one another: 'This plane  must be lost, it won't 
fare well."'
        "I came out and saw the plane coming out of the fog and going 
back into it," said Miho Duplica. "It flew just  above our heads, very, 
very low."
        When it disappeared towards the hill it was flying at under 900 
feet, Miho Duplica said.
        The Duplicas said they heard a change in the sound of the 
plane's engine when it disappeared towards the hill,  as if the pilot 
had tried to climb above the 2,300-foot peak after it suddenly came 
into view.
        "After it disappeared in the fog we heard a loud noise as if he 
was taking off. The sound changed and then  nothing," said Miho 
Duplica.
        Down the road in the village of Srebreno, Anto Kristovic, the 
owner of a small cafe, said he remembered well  the strange noise that 
forced him and his brother out of the cellar.
        "The plane went roaring just over our heads, it made an 
incredible noise," Kristovic said.
        "The normal flight path is on the far side of that hill, past the 
church and straight on," he said, pointing to a  small white church on 
the top of a ridge between his house and the sea. "Instead it came 
overhead."
        "The engine sounded unusual," said Kristovic, who said he had 
never witnessed anything like the crash in 20  years of living in the 
vicinity of an international airport.
        To the west, in the village of Brgat Gornji, the Basics family 
were cleaning up their war-ravaged home they  had just returned to 
three weeks ago.
        "The plane flew right over us. It was much louder than usual. 
When the planes are landing at Cilipi airport,  they go much further 
out towards the sea," Luce Basic said.
        The fact that the houses of the three families and the crash site 
lie on a straight line that runs about two miles  inland from the normal 
approach path indicated the plane may have veered off course well 
before slamming into the  hill.
        Why the pilot kept to the wrong course if he passed by at least 
two beacons, one at the level of Brgat and the  other off shore from 
Plat, remains to be explained by investigators.
        Military pilots said the T-43A pilot ordinarily would been 
relying on his global positioning system (GPS) that  is now relied on 
by many military pilots and is required on commercial airliners. The 
GPS could have pinpointed  the runway at Dubrovnik despite a 
blinding rainstorm as the plane approached the airport. GPS receives 
a satellite  signal that gives the plane's exact location.
        Instead, the pilots, Capt. Ashley Davis, the commanding officer, 
and Capt. Tim Schafer, had to rely on a  1950s system, a 
nondirectional beacon , that provides little information to the pilot 
and can be distorted by extreme  weather. GPS is especially critical in 
approaching airports like Dubrovnik that lack sophisticated 
equipment,  reported Reuters.
         So, who is to blame?
        Defense Secretary William Perry told the Associated Press, "It 
was a classic sort of an accident that good  instrumentation should be 
able to prevent." A Pentagon pilot quoted anonymously by AP 
disagreed. "Somebody  should ask the question why did you have a 
plane stationed in Germany and used for that purpose with the least  
ability to fly?"
        But why would anybody go to such trouble to get rid of a 
Clinton administration cabinet member? Did Ron  Brown pose any 
potential embarrassment to the Clinton re-election campaign?
        "Bill Clinton came to Washington promising there would be no 
stain on his administration - it would be free  of graft, corruption or 
any hint of wrongdoing," notes Jamie Dettmer, writing in the 
conservative journal Insight on  the News. "The highest ethical 
standards would be applied rigorously. Nominees for Cabinet posts 
would be  expected to meet stringent codes of conduct, boasted the 
president's then-transition director Warren Christopher.  There would 
be no Iran-Contra or Watergate scandals to poison the Clinton 
presidency. Four days after the election  the president-elect promised 
'the most ethical administration in the history of the Republic.'"
        However, even before Brown entered office, an air of suspicion 
hung over his business affairs.
         "A noted wheeler-dealer whose networking skills were more 
impressive even than Clinton's," writes  Dettmer, "Brown had done 
little to dispel the general wariness about his commercial practices. In 
a letter to Attorney  General Janet Reno, the chairman of the House 
Government Reform and Oversight Committee, Pennsylvania  
Republican Bill Clinger, complained, "For over a year, in response to 
direct questions posed to the secretary, I have  received inaccurate, 
incomplete and misleading responses, or no response at all" from 
Brown.
        In one instance, Brown failed to meet a request from the 
committee for information about ties between his  immediate family 
members and Corridor Broadcasting Corp, which is owned by Texas 
entrepreneur Nolanda  Hill. According to Clinger, Brown's daughter, 
Tracy, and his daughter-in-law, Tamara, both received money  from 
Corridor, a firm that defaulted on almost $40 million in loans held by 
government agencies and is itself the  subject of an inquiry by the 
Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.
        At the center of the complicated allegations against Brown was 
the charge that he hid from Congress  $400,000 he received from 
another Hill firm, the First International Communications Corp. 
According to Brown,  there was no obligation on him to declare the 
$400,000 since it came in several different checks throughout 1993  
and was a payment by Hill for his stake in First International.
         Clinger claims Brown failed to release "any information to 
support his contention that these payments were  part of divestiture" 
transactions. Brown, in fact, had invested no money in the company 
when he became a partner  in 1990.
        Brown's role at First International was to provide political 
connections. He gave Hill an entree to the highest  circles of 
Democratic politics. Through Brown, then chairman of the 
Democratic National Committee, Hill was  appointed to serve on the 
party's convention-site selection committee. Did Brown's help stop 
there, before he  entered office? Clinger's aides have been trying to 
discover who secured an invitation for Hill to a select White  House 
lunch in the summer of 1993. Hill was the only guest at the lunch 
with the president who was not a CEO of  a company listed among 
the Fortune 500. Congressional investigators also are intrigued by a 
memo Hill wrote on  May 13,1993, asking Brown to arrange a 
meeting with Commerce officials for a business associate, John 
Foster.
         Clinton had tried to make a case that the press and Congress 
should not concern itself about any alleged  wrongdoing committed 
by Cabinet members prior to entering government.
        That has been one of his and Hillary's biggest defenses in the 
Whitewater case.
         However, charges were surfacing that Brown had been guilty of 
impropriety while in office.
        In particular, he failed to disclose his financial stake in another

business, Kellee Communications Inc.  Congressman Clinger claims 
that Brown's connections with Kellee posed a conflict of interest with 
his role as  Commerce secretary.
         Kellee has major pay-phone contracts with AT&T.
        Brown has helped AT&T win telecommunications-equipment 
deals overseas.
        The allegation is that as Secretary of Commerce, Brown was still 
lining his pockets, making deals that made  millions of dollars for him 
and his family
        In documents sent to Reno by Clinger, he says that as Commerce 
secretary, Brown "invited AT&T  executives to accompany him to 
Saudi Arabia. This trip, coupled with other efforts by the secretary, 
culminated in  the signing of a $4 billion contract for AT&T.... 
Although the Saudi contract may not have had a direct financial  
impact on Kellee, it resulted in increased good will toward the 
secretary, and presumably, Kellee Communications.  This enhanced 
good will was an important factor enabling Kellee to expand its 
AT&T joint venture."
        Clinger says Brown was corrupt.
        He rejects the liberals' claim that Republicans were being 
overzealous in their pursuit of Brown. "I don't think  we are 
overdoing things at all," he says. "There is ample justification for our 
investigations and there is a lot to be  looked at. In Brown's case, 
there are strong indications that abuses happened after he became 
Commerce  secretary."
        The Clinton administration has had its embarrassments.
        "Hardly a month has passed without some new controversy 
rocking the administration," notes Dettmer.  "First it was the travel 
office scandal, followed by Whitewater and the incidental departures 
>from  government of  White House Counsel Bernard Nussbaum, 
Deputy Treasury Secretary Roger Altman and Associate Attorney  
General Webster Hubbell."
        Hubbell went to jail.
        "In all, five probes are underway," notes Dettmer. "Three are 
into the financial affairs of Commerce Secretary  Ron Brown who, 
until recently, had been slated by the president to head his re-election 
bid. Former Agriculture  Secretary Mike Espy, who contributed 
greatly to rallying the black vote for Clinton in Southern states during 
the  1992 campaign, is the subject of an ongoing independent-counsel 
inquiry."
        Transportation Secretary Federico Pena is accused of using his 
influence to help his former investment firm  secure a Los An 
contract. Former HEW Secretary Henry Cisneros understated the 
payments he made over a three- year period to his former mistress, 
Linda Medlar, a political fund-raiser. Cisneros told FBI agents 
checking his  background before Senate confirmation hearings that he 
gave money to Medlar from 1990 to 1992 as  compensation for her 
difficulty in securing a job after their affair had become public. He 
said he never paid her more  than $2,500 at a time and that yearly 
totals never exceeded $10,000. In fact, several of his payments 
exceeded  $2,500, and the yearly totals were between $42,000 and 
$60,000. In all, he gave Medlar over $200,000.
        Espy, Cisneros and Pena dutifully resigned.
        Clinton was able to wash his hands of them.
        But Brown would not.
        He refused to go.
        With the re-election campaign in full-swing now, there was vast 
potential for him to embarrass the Clintons.  And so, somehow, he 
has died in a plane crash. All over the nation, flags are at half-mast. 
He is being declared a  national hero and a role model for small 
children.
        That's a lot better for Bill Clinton than if a sitting cabinet 
member were jailed.
        An unrelenting, yearlong probe by Clinger had led to an 
extensive array of detailed allegations against Brown,  including 
charges that he violated federal laws by filing inaccurate financial 
disclosure reports that failed to indicate  income received from First 
International and that that Brown had illegally supplemented his 
federal salary, engaged  in potential conflicts of interest and provided 
false information to Congress about his financial circumstances.
        What about the accusations that he accepted bribes from the 
North Vietnamese Communists - in order to get  the Clinton 
administration to drop its trade embargo?
         A Vietnamese-American, Binh T. Ly, who is living in Florida, 
said Brown accepted $700,000 to help lift the  U.S. trade embargo 
against Vietnam. Then days later, he told the press the FBI ''told me 
that I should take serious  precautions because my life is in danger.'
         Ly told a news conference that the FBI told him ''that my life 
has been threatened.''
        Ly said Nguyen Van Hao, a former Communist Vietnamese 
government official who was his business  partner, had arranged a 
$700,000 payment to Brown. Ly passed an FBI polygraph test, but 
acknowledged that he  had no evidence to support his allegations.
        Was there anything to the case?
        According to the media watchdog group Accuracy in Media, 
Republicans were about to charge Brown with  perjury in his denials 
of accepting the North Vietnamese bribes.
        "Congressional Republicans are raising the specter that 
Commerce Secretary Ron Brown committed perjury  in his oft-
changed explanations about a purported $700,000 bribe offer from a 
Vietnamese businessman," reported  AIM. "In a startling new 
development, a person described as 'close to the National Security 
Council' told  Congressmen that Brown lied when he denied that he 
or his staff were involved in the Clinton Administration's  easing of 
trade restrictions on Vietnam.
        "This is in direct conflict with what Brown told the House 
Foreign Affairs Committee. Brown made clear at  the outset of the 
hearing that he did not intend to discuss allegations by Ly Thanh 
Binh, a Vietnamese-American  businessman from Florida, that he was 
offered $700,000 to help in normalizing U.S.-Vietnam economic 
relations.  The man on whose behalf the overture was supposedly 
made was Nguyen Van Hao, an official of the communist  
government."
        Brown told the Committee, "I am not going to answer any 
questions bearing on the grand jury investigation  in Miami. All I am 
here to talk about today are trade issues."
        Rep. Dan Burton (R.-Ind.) then asked Brown: "Can you tell us, 
Mr. Brown, about any involvement that  you or your staff may have 
had in relation to trade negotiations or the possibility of trade 
negotiations with the  Republic of Vietnam?"
        "I had no involvement with those, Congressman," Brown 
replied.
        Burton then repeated his question in tighter form, asking whether 
any of Brown's subordinates participated in  talks. Again, Brown 
gave a categorical denial, saying, "I answered that in the negative, 
Congressman." He  continued that "we're not going to have internal 
discussions about internal policy formation."
        Soon after Brown's testimony, Burton received a visit from a 
man he described as "a fellow who is close to  the National Security 
Council" who "thought this issue needed to be clarified and 
illuminated."
        Burton gave this account in a floor speech:
        On June 14, a "notice of principals meeting" was sent to 
secretaries of the various departments involved in  international trade, 
setting a "secretaries meeting" for 2 P. M. on June 16 in the White 
House situation room to  discuss a Vietnam options paper.
        As the source told Burton, there are three levels of NSC 
meetings: the "experts' level," at the bottom rung,  where technical 
issues are discussed; the "deputies' level," where issues are clarified; 
and the "principals' level,"  which includes the secretaries of 
departments.
        The June 16 "principals' level" meeting to which Brown was 
invited involved an options paper on Vietnam  which had been 
discussed at the lower two levels. The NSC source told Burton that 
Brown would have been  briefed on the options paper prior to the 
June 16 meeting.
        In any event, the secretaries had two options before them when 
they gathered at the White House.
        According to Burton, "Option 1-A was to allow international 
financial initiatives, but to ease the embargo, to  start the racheting 
down of the embargo, so we could start normalizing relations with 
Vietnam. The majority of  those at the National Security Council 
approved that, but not the Department of Commerce.
        "The Department of Commerce supported Option No. 2 [which 
was to] lift the block on international financial  institutions, and to 
totally, completely, lift the embargo on Vietnam.
        "And do you know who pushed this the hardest? The 
Department of Commerce. Mr. Brown said he didn't  know anything 
about it, he said he never discussed it with anybody in his department, 
and yet at this deputies'  meeting his department was pushing harder, 
almost totally by itself, than anybody else to completely remove that  
embargo with Vietnam."
        The Indiana Republican's staff alerted Congressional reporters 
about the content of the speech, which was  seen on C- SPAN and 
printed in the Congressional Record. But the media ignored Burton's 
explosive revelations  - particularly his charges that Brown's 
conflicting answers on Vietnam put the Clinton Administration in 
jeopardy  of miring itself in scandal.
        "This could be another Watergate, or worse," Burton declared. 
"It stinks to high heaven."
        Burton noted that Brown's story about the Binh allegations has 
changed several times on significant points:
        * A spokesman for Brown denied that the Democratic politician 
had ever met Hao, a denial which Brown  personally gave to several 
Washington reporters in the summer. Then, however, Brown admitted 
having met with  Hao three times, including having dinner with him, 
giving him a tour of the Commerce Department, and sending  him a 
Christmas card.
        * Brown, both personally and through a spokesman, at first 
denied having read a letter Hao sent to Saigon  outlining a discussion 
he held with Brown about the $700,000 fee. But as Burton pointed 
out, Brown later said,  "'Yes, I believe I did read the letter from some 
government official over there.'" Burton continued, "It was the  
Prime Minister of Vietnam. So he has been caught in two or three 
falsehoods already."
        Based on his interviews with Binh, Burton also gave fresh 
details of the deal Brown allegedly tried to make  with the 
Vietnamese. He said, "One of these items, according to Mr. Ly [Binh] 
was that Mr. Brown would have  exclusive contractual rights to 
American businesses that went over there from the Vietnamese side.
        "In other words, he was to get a cut of the 100 or 150 American 
businesses that he would take into Vietnam,  and he would be in 
essence, the beneficiary of any profit made by the Vietnamese 
government, or at least a  percentage of that.
        "In addition, Mr. Ly [Binh] indicated there was going to be huge 
oil-drilling exploration taking place, and that  Vietnam had the third-
largest oil reserves in the world...and that Mr. Brown was going to get 
royalties off of all the  oil that was sold by the Vietnamese 
Government to the United States, and other entities."
        According to Burton, Binh protested such lucrative fees being 
given to Brown and tried to pull back from the  deal. Whereupon, he 
said, Hao admonished him to be quiet, and he would also be given a 
percentage of any  profits. Later, a concerned Binh spoke with a 
friend in Louisiana, a father figure, who told him, "You ought to get  
out of that, because it is corrupt and a lot of people could go to jail."
        At this point Binh broke with Hao and began talking with the 
FBI, the media and Congressional staff  members.
        Then there were the charges that Brown was a slumlord - also 
very embarrassing to the Democrats and to  Clinton.
         "It has been argued in this age of contemporary politics that the 
Republican Party is the party for the wealthy,"  wrote Herb London in 
the conservative digest Human Events before Brown was killed. "The 
GOP is presumably  at war with working class America. Perhaps the 
most ardent and effective rhetorician for the Democrats in the  
political class war is Ron Brown, presently commerce secretary and 
formerly chairman of the Democratic National  Committee. Brown 
rarely gives a speech without making reference to Republican 
insensitivity to the plight of the  poor. It is his stock-in-trade.
        "Recently, however, it was reported that Secretary Brown reaped 
a generous tax break by investing in an  apartment complex declared 
partly 'unfit for human habitation' in Landover, Maryland. Housing 
inspectors for the  county investigating the houses owned in part by 
Brown found trash, debris, used condoms and human waste in  and 
around the buildings. Officials also noted broken windows, rotting 
door frames and wrecked vehicles on the  property.
        "Brown, already under investigation by the Justice Department 
for several of his business relationships,  invested $71,000 in this 
Landover housing project in 1983 and enjoyed approximately 
$175,000 in tax write-offs  in the years that followed. Brown claims 
he is a passive investor and doesn't know anything at all about the 
housing  project. A. Bruce Rozet, whose firm bought the company 
that manages the apartments, said, 'There would be no  reason for 
him [Brown] not to know the property he invested in.'
         "Last October, [now-resigned] Secretary of Housing and Urban 
Development Henry Cisneros charged that  Rozet 'got filthy rich off 
this program and he left filthy places behind him for people to live 
in.' No mention of Ron  Brown was made in that speech."
        "There is something quite remarkable about this story, which 
first appeared in the Los Angeles Times. As yet  no one has 
mentioned the fact that the Democratic leader best known for beating 
the drums of class warfare is  engaged in an investment designed to 
reduce his tax burden and, in the process, exploit the poor and put 
him in the  position of being a slumlord," writes London. "This, after 
all, is the same Ron Brown who accuses Republicans of  using a cut 
in the capital gains tax as a way of assisting wealthy patrons. This is 
the same Ron Brown who  contends that the Newt Gingrich-led 
Congress is taking advantage of poor children and unwed mothers.
        "Surely someone out there in medialand must recognize the 
gross hypocrisy in this man. Yet, thus far, there  has only been 
conspicuous silence. Could it be that Democrats and media 
panjandrums, who rely on a stereotypical  view of the protagonists in 
the class war of their making, don't know how to digest the imbroglio 
of one of their  faithful? It is hard to imagine a similar response from 
the press corps if Newt Gingrich, to cite one example, were  caught in 
a similar flim-flam tax deal.
        "If the Democrats wish to play the class-warfare theme song, the 
Republicans should play it as well. This time  the lyrics should 
include Ron Brown's investment strategy that has led directly to the 
privation and misery of the  people he invariably claims to defend."
        But now, no defense has to be made of Ron Brown.
        He has received a hero's burial.
        And you can just imagine the criticism that is going to rise 
against the conservative media for sullying the  memory of a martyr, 
fallen warrior and hero.
        Even if he was about to embarrass the Clintons just before his 
very convenient and timely death.
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From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Thu Jul  4 07:43:25 PDT 1996
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Subject: WHITEHOUSE admits using FBI files!
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Subject: Big Brother & Hillary

From:   The (London) Electronic Telegraph            International News
Friday June 28 1996                                  Issue 416


                     White House admits using files from FBI
                           By Hugh Davies in Washington


            Whitewater fails to sink Clinton's re-election hopes

           THE White House has confirmed that officials keep the names of
           200,000 people on a computer database, most of them members of
           Congress, campaign contributors and journalists.

           The announcement which continued the row over FBI background
           files provoked allegations concerning invasion of privacy. The
           project was begun in 1993, when Hillary Clinton was worried
           about what she regarded as betrayals of incidents in her
           private life to the media. This was also when the White House
           began storing in a vault sensitive FBI documents on
           Republicans.

           The database lists political loyalties as well as whether the
           subjects are friends of the Clintons. Barry Toiv, a White House
           aide, said the computer information was purely to help in
           deciding whom to invite to the White House, as well as to keep
           track of Mr Clinton's supporters. The database, apparently
           nicknamed "Big Brother" internally, is being likened to Lyndon
           Johnson's "favours file", but Republicans are seizing on it as
           further evidence of privacy violation.

           Congressman John Boehner challenged the White House yesterday,
           saying that if the information were so innocuous there was no
           harm in releasing it. "Many of us are concerned that this looks
           like an enemies' list that's being created at the White House."
           Susan Molinari, another Republican, said: "Every day there are
           new revelations coming from this White House in terms of the
           way they used their power."

           People whose files turned up in the White House vault are now
           surfacing on TV chat shows

           It has also emerged that the number of FBI files at the White
           House was 700, not 408 as the administration first stated. In
           addition, Anthony Marceca, a Pentagon aide who worked on them,
           routinely took home information from the FBI papers, storing it
           on computer discs.

           Craig Livingstone, the Democratic political operative in charge
           of the documents, who has been forced to quit his White House
           job, has had details of his FBI check disclosed in Congress. It
           turns out that he lied about his academic record and admitted
           using various drugs "up until about 1985".

           People whose files turned up in the White House vault are now
           surfacing on TV chat shows, all livid and most doubting the
           official explanation that it was an honest mistake by low-level
           aides. Mary Carroll said that among questions asked of her by
           the FBI was if she had "cheated" on her husband.

           Linda Chavez, director of the US Commission on Civil Rights in
           the Reagan administration, said her file, obtained under the
           Freedom of Information law, included a lie that she had been
           fired, together with information that her father had been
           arrested for a violent crime. Her initial shock turned to rage
           when she realised that the date of the arrest was after he had
           died. The FBI had mixed him up with a man of the same name.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Thu Jul  4 08:25:48 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: WHITEHOUSE admits using FBI files!
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Subject: Big Brother & Hillary

From:   The (London) Electronic Telegraph            International News
Friday June 28 1996                                  Issue 416


                     White House admits using files from FBI
                           By Hugh Davies in Washington


            Whitewater fails to sink Clinton's re-election hopes

           THE White House has confirmed that officials keep the names of
           200,000 people on a computer database, most of them members of
           Congress, campaign contributors and journalists.

           The announcement which continued the row over FBI background
           files provoked allegations concerning invasion of privacy. The
           project was begun in 1993, when Hillary Clinton was worried
           about what she regarded as betrayals of incidents in her
           private life to the media. This was also when the White House
           began storing in a vault sensitive FBI documents on
           Republicans.

           The database lists political loyalties as well as whether the
           subjects are friends of the Clintons. Barry Toiv, a White House
           aide, said the computer information was purely to help in
           deciding whom to invite to the White House, as well as to keep
           track of Mr Clinton's supporters. The database, apparently
           nicknamed "Big Brother" internally, is being likened to Lyndon
           Johnson's "favours file", but Republicans are seizing on it as
           further evidence of privacy violation.

           Congressman John Boehner challenged the White House yesterday,
           saying that if the information were so innocuous there was no
           harm in releasing it. "Many of us are concerned that this looks
           like an enemies' list that's being created at the White House."
           Susan Molinari, another Republican, said: "Every day there are
           new revelations coming from this White House in terms of the
           way they used their power."

           People whose files turned up in the White House vault are now
           surfacing on TV chat shows

           It has also emerged that the number of FBI files at the White
           House was 700, not 408 as the administration first stated. In
           addition, Anthony Marceca, a Pentagon aide who worked on them,
           routinely took home information from the FBI papers, storing it
           on computer discs.

           Craig Livingstone, the Democratic political operative in charge
           of the documents, who has been forced to quit his White House
           job, has had details of his FBI check disclosed in Congress. It
           turns out that he lied about his academic record and admitted
           using various drugs "up until about 1985".

           People whose files turned up in the White House vault are now
           surfacing on TV chat shows, all livid and most doubting the
           official explanation that it was an honest mistake by low-level
           aides. Mary Carroll said that among questions asked of her by
           the FBI was if she had "cheated" on her husband.

           Linda Chavez, director of the US Commission on Civil Rights in
           the Reagan administration, said her file, obtained under the
           Freedom of Information law, included a lie that she had been
           fired, together with information that her father had been
           arrested for a violent crime. Her initial shock turned to rage
           when she realised that the date of the arrest was after he had
           died. The FBI had mixed him up with a man of the same name.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Thu Jul  4 08:36:54 PDT 1996
Article: 64183 of alt.conspiracy
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: WHITEHOUSE admits using FBI files!
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Subject: Big Brother & Hillary

From:   The (London) Electronic Telegraph            International News
Friday June 28 1996                                  Issue 416


                     White House admits using files from FBI
                           By Hugh Davies in Washington


            Whitewater fails to sink Clinton's re-election hopes

           THE White House has confirmed that officials keep the names of
           200,000 people on a computer database, most of them members of
           Congress, campaign contributors and journalists.

           The announcement which continued the row over FBI background
           files provoked allegations concerning invasion of privacy. The
           project was begun in 1993, when Hillary Clinton was worried
           about what she regarded as betrayals of incidents in her
           private life to the media. This was also when the White House
           began storing in a vault sensitive FBI documents on
           Republicans.

           The database lists political loyalties as well as whether the
           subjects are friends of the Clintons. Barry Toiv, a White House
           aide, said the computer information was purely to help in
           deciding whom to invite to the White House, as well as to keep
           track of Mr Clinton's supporters. The database, apparently
           nicknamed "Big Brother" internally, is being likened to Lyndon
           Johnson's "favours file", but Republicans are seizing on it as
           further evidence of privacy violation.

           Congressman John Boehner challenged the White House yesterday,
           saying that if the information were so innocuous there was no
           harm in releasing it. "Many of us are concerned that this looks
           like an enemies' list that's being created at the White House."
           Susan Molinari, another Republican, said: "Every day there are
           new revelations coming from this White House in terms of the
           way they used their power."

           People whose files turned up in the White House vault are now
           surfacing on TV chat shows

           It has also emerged that the number of FBI files at the White
           House was 700, not 408 as the administration first stated. In
           addition, Anthony Marceca, a Pentagon aide who worked on them,
           routinely took home information from the FBI papers, storing it
           on computer discs.

           Craig Livingstone, the Democratic political operative in charge
           of the documents, who has been forced to quit his White House
           job, has had details of his FBI check disclosed in Congress. It
           turns out that he lied about his academic record and admitted
           using various drugs "up until about 1985".

           People whose files turned up in the White House vault are now
           surfacing on TV chat shows, all livid and most doubting the
           official explanation that it was an honest mistake by low-level
           aides. Mary Carroll said that among questions asked of her by
           the FBI was if she had "cheated" on her husband.

           Linda Chavez, director of the US Commission on Civil Rights in
           the Reagan administration, said her file, obtained under the
           Freedom of Information law, included a lie that she had been
           fired, together with information that her father had been
           arrested for a violent crime. Her initial shock turned to rage
           when she realised that the date of the arrest was after he had
           died. The FBI had mixed him up with a man of the same name.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Thu Jul  4 10:15:05 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: WHITEHOUSE admits using FBI files!
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Subject: Big Brother & Hillary

From:   The (London) Electronic Telegraph            International News
Friday June 28 1996                                  Issue 416


                     White House admits using files from FBI
                           By Hugh Davies in Washington


            Whitewater fails to sink Clinton's re-election hopes

           THE White House has confirmed that officials keep the names of
           200,000 people on a computer database, most of them members of
           Congress, campaign contributors and journalists.

           The announcement which continued the row over FBI background
           files provoked allegations concerning invasion of privacy. The
           project was begun in 1993, when Hillary Clinton was worried
           about what she regarded as betrayals of incidents in her
           private life to the media. This was also when the White House
           began storing in a vault sensitive FBI documents on
           Republicans.

           The database lists political loyalties as well as whether the
           subjects are friends of the Clintons. Barry Toiv, a White House
           aide, said the computer information was purely to help in
           deciding whom to invite to the White House, as well as to keep
           track of Mr Clinton's supporters. The database, apparently
           nicknamed "Big Brother" internally, is being likened to Lyndon
           Johnson's "favours file", but Republicans are seizing on it as
           further evidence of privacy violation.

           Congressman John Boehner challenged the White House yesterday,
           saying that if the information were so innocuous there was no
           harm in releasing it. "Many of us are concerned that this looks
           like an enemies' list that's being created at the White House."
           Susan Molinari, another Republican, said: "Every day there are
           new revelations coming from this White House in terms of the
           way they used their power."

           People whose files turned up in the White House vault are now
           surfacing on TV chat shows

           It has also emerged that the number of FBI files at the White
           House was 700, not 408 as the administration first stated. In
           addition, Anthony Marceca, a Pentagon aide who worked on them,
           routinely took home information from the FBI papers, storing it
           on computer discs.

           Craig Livingstone, the Democratic political operative in charge
           of the documents, who has been forced to quit his White House
           job, has had details of his FBI check disclosed in Congress. It
           turns out that he lied about his academic record and admitted
           using various drugs "up until about 1985".

           People whose files turned up in the White House vault are now
           surfacing on TV chat shows, all livid and most doubting the
           official explanation that it was an honest mistake by low-level
           aides. Mary Carroll said that among questions asked of her by
           the FBI was if she had "cheated" on her husband.

           Linda Chavez, director of the US Commission on Civil Rights in
           the Reagan administration, said her file, obtained under the
           Freedom of Information law, included a lie that she had been
           fired, together with information that her father had been
           arrested for a violent crime. Her initial shock turned to rage
           when she realised that the date of the arrest was after he had
           died. The FBI had mixed him up with a man of the same name.
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Date: 02 Jul 96 00:56:00 
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CLINTON campaign to SMEAR VINCE FOSTER's name by claiming he hired
Livingstone.	    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

	Democrats newest NO LIMITS of IMMORALITY.
	How do Mrs. Foster and family feel now that the Cannibals feed
	off of their own? 
	
	The Collection of Traitorous-Felonious-Hippy-Inept-Communists in
	the WHITE HOUSE take advantage of their OWN MURDERED
	CO-CONSPIRATOR. 

	Did Vince Foster also help Hillary with Health-Gate via spiritual
	"talks"?

	Who should "ask" Vince Foster who killed him? 
	Bob Dole or Hillary?
	"Goatbusters On-Parade" par John Carpenter.
							John

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LIBERALS=DEMOCRATS=SOCIALISTS=COMMUNISTS=BUMS=PERVERTS=ABOMINATIONS be
			     FORWARNED! 
			     ~~~~~~~~~~
	   The following is a bitter pill to swallow. You 
	   may choke to death on it. Read at your peril!
	   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

			   The 1980's Test

This article originally appeared in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
on November 1, 1994.  It was written by Ralph R. Reiland, an associate
professor of economics at Robert Morris College in Pittsburgh.

-(All statistics taken from the US DEPARTMENT OF LABOR and CENSUS BUREAU.)-

The 1980's Test Regarding the 1980's, answer True or False to the
following statements: 

>From  1982 to 1989, 19 million net new jobs were created, two-thirds of
them high- or middle-paying, resulting in the lowest unemployment rate in
16 years.  The economic growth that flowed from the Reagan tax cuts
increased federal tax revenues in the 1980s by $1.1 trillion.  These
additional federal tax revenues contributed to the reduction of the
federal deficit from 6.3% of gross domestic product in 1983 to 2.9% in
1989.  

	Presidents Kennedy and Reagan both enacted supply-side tax cuts on
top income earners and job creators, and produced the two longest economic
expansions in American history.  
	The Reagan tax cuts trickled down to produce a 76% jump in new
business investment in real (adjusted for inflation) dollars in the 1980s
and tripled the rate of productivity growth.  Real per capita after-tax
income rose by 19% in the 1980s, nearly double the rate of the 1970s. 
Real family income increased every year from 1983 through 1990 in every
income group (from the poorest fifth of households to the richest fifth),
while median family income fell by 1.9% in 1993.  
	The real income of the poorest fifth of American families
increased by 12% in the 1980s, reversing their 17% slide in real income
between 1979 and 1983. Eighty-six percent of the tax filers of the poorest
fifth of families in 1980 moved out of that bottom quintile by 1988 (16%
moved all the way to the top fifth of income earners).  Real median income
increased 5% between 1982 and 1988 for those who started in the top fifth
on income earners, and increased 77% for those who started in the bottom
fifth.  
	Real family income declined each year from 1979 until 1982 and
declined each year since 1991---the Reagan years, sandwiched between the
two periods of shrinking income, produced a real increase of $4,877 in
median family annual real income.  Since 1988, the typical American
household has lost $2,344 in real annual income, and the degree of income
inequality is now at a post-World War II high.  
	After growing nationwide by 7 million people during the 1970s, the
poverty population declined by 4 million during the Reagan years; Poverty
in the '90s is on the rise again with over a million Americans falling
into poverty in 1993.  
	The top income tax rate was reduced from 70% to 28% in the 1980s,
but the top 5 percent of all earners paid more, increasing their share of
all federal income taxes paid from 36% in 1980 to 43% in 1990.  
	In the 1980s, the percentage of African-American families earning
more than 50,000 in real dollars doubled from 7% to 14%, the unemployment
rate for black teenagers fell by 21% and black employment in professional
and managerial jobs expanded by one-third.  After declining 10% between
1978 and 1982, the real median income of black families increased by 17%
between 1982 and 1989.  
	The median weekly earnings of female workers grew 8% faster than
male earnings in the 1980s, and women entrepreneurs ended the decade
employing more people than all of the Fortune 500 companies combined. 

NOTE: All of the above statements are TRUE.  All information is based 
on Labor Department and Census Bureau studies under Democratic control.
Those missing more than 12 questions are eligible for Rhodes 
Scholarship assistance.

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"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sat Jul  6 11:45:59 PDT 1996
Article: 87755 of alt.censorship
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    	The truth about Reagan's Economic Era (according to the Democrat's
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LIBERALS=DEMOCRATS=SOCIALISTS=COMMUNISTS=BUMS=PERVERTS=ABOMINATIONS be
			     FORWARNED! 
			     ~~~~~~~~~~
	   The following is a bitter pill to swallow. You 
	   may choke to death on it. Read at your peril!
	   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

			   The 1980's Test

This article originally appeared in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
on November 1, 1994.  It was written by Ralph R. Reiland, an associate
professor of economics at Robert Morris College in Pittsburgh.

-(All statistics taken from the US DEPARTMENT OF LABOR and CENSUS BUREAU.)-

The 1980's Test Regarding the 1980's, answer True or False to the
following statements: 

>From  1982 to 1989, 19 million net new jobs were created, two-thirds of
them high- or middle-paying, resulting in the lowest unemployment rate in
16 years.  The economic growth that flowed from the Reagan tax cuts
increased federal tax revenues in the 1980s by $1.1 trillion.  These
additional federal tax revenues contributed to the reduction of the
federal deficit from 6.3% of gross domestic product in 1983 to 2.9% in
1989.  

	Presidents Kennedy and Reagan both enacted supply-side tax cuts on
top income earners and job creators, and produced the two longest economic
expansions in American history.  
	The Reagan tax cuts trickled down to produce a 76% jump in new
business investment in real (adjusted for inflation) dollars in the 1980s
and tripled the rate of productivity growth.  Real per capita after-tax
income rose by 19% in the 1980s, nearly double the rate of the 1970s. 
Real family income increased every year from 1983 through 1990 in every
income group (from the poorest fifth of households to the richest fifth),
while median family income fell by 1.9% in 1993.  
	The real income of the poorest fifth of American families
increased by 12% in the 1980s, reversing their 17% slide in real income
between 1979 and 1983. Eighty-six percent of the tax filers of the poorest
fifth of families in 1980 moved out of that bottom quintile by 1988 (16%
moved all the way to the top fifth of income earners).  Real median income
increased 5% between 1982 and 1988 for those who started in the top fifth
on income earners, and increased 77% for those who started in the bottom
fifth.  
	Real family income declined each year from 1979 until 1982 and
declined each year since 1991---the Reagan years, sandwiched between the
two periods of shrinking income, produced a real increase of $4,877 in
median family annual real income.  Since 1988, the typical American
household has lost $2,344 in real annual income, and the degree of income
inequality is now at a post-World War II high.  
	After growing nationwide by 7 million people during the 1970s, the
poverty population declined by 4 million during the Reagan years; Poverty
in the '90s is on the rise again with over a million Americans falling
into poverty in 1993.  
	The top income tax rate was reduced from 70% to 28% in the 1980s,
but the top 5 percent of all earners paid more, increasing their share of
all federal income taxes paid from 36% in 1980 to 43% in 1990.  
	In the 1980s, the percentage of African-American families earning
more than 50,000 in real dollars doubled from 7% to 14%, the unemployment
rate for black teenagers fell by 21% and black employment in professional
and managerial jobs expanded by one-third.  After declining 10% between
1978 and 1982, the real median income of black families increased by 17%
between 1982 and 1989.  
	The median weekly earnings of female workers grew 8% faster than
male earnings in the 1980s, and women entrepreneurs ended the decade
employing more people than all of the Fortune 500 companies combined. 

NOTE: All of the above statements are TRUE.  All information is based 
on Labor Department and Census Bureau studies under Democratic control.
Those missing more than 12 questions are eligible for Rhodes 
Scholarship assistance.

http://www.eskimo.com/~jeremyps/" 
http://www.eskimo.com/~jeremyps/feedback.html"
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"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine


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    	The truth about Reagan's Economic Era (according to the Democrat's
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LIBERALS=DEMOCRATS=SOCIALISTS=COMMUNISTS=BUMS=PERVERTS=ABOMINATIONS be
			     FORWARNED! 
			     ~~~~~~~~~~
	   The following is a bitter pill to swallow. You 
	   may choke to death on it. Read at your peril!
	   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

			   The 1980's Test

This article originally appeared in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
on November 1, 1994.  It was written by Ralph R. Reiland, an associate
professor of economics at Robert Morris College in Pittsburgh.

-(All statistics taken from the US DEPARTMENT OF LABOR and CENSUS BUREAU.)-

The 1980's Test Regarding the 1980's, answer True or False to the
following statements: 

>From  1982 to 1989, 19 million net new jobs were created, two-thirds of
them high- or middle-paying, resulting in the lowest unemployment rate in
16 years.  The economic growth that flowed from the Reagan tax cuts
increased federal tax revenues in the 1980s by $1.1 trillion.  These
additional federal tax revenues contributed to the reduction of the
federal deficit from 6.3% of gross domestic product in 1983 to 2.9% in
1989.  

	Presidents Kennedy and Reagan both enacted supply-side tax cuts on
top income earners and job creators, and produced the two longest economic
expansions in American history.  
	The Reagan tax cuts trickled down to produce a 76% jump in new
business investment in real (adjusted for inflation) dollars in the 1980s
and tripled the rate of productivity growth.  Real per capita after-tax
income rose by 19% in the 1980s, nearly double the rate of the 1970s. 
Real family income increased every year from 1983 through 1990 in every
income group (from the poorest fifth of households to the richest fifth),
while median family income fell by 1.9% in 1993.  
	The real income of the poorest fifth of American families
increased by 12% in the 1980s, reversing their 17% slide in real income
between 1979 and 1983. Eighty-six percent of the tax filers of the poorest
fifth of families in 1980 moved out of that bottom quintile by 1988 (16%
moved all the way to the top fifth of income earners).  Real median income
increased 5% between 1982 and 1988 for those who started in the top fifth
on income earners, and increased 77% for those who started in the bottom
fifth.  
	Real family income declined each year from 1979 until 1982 and
declined each year since 1991---the Reagan years, sandwiched between the
two periods of shrinking income, produced a real increase of $4,877 in
median family annual real income.  Since 1988, the typical American
household has lost $2,344 in real annual income, and the degree of income
inequality is now at a post-World War II high.  
	After growing nationwide by 7 million people during the 1970s, the
poverty population declined by 4 million during the Reagan years; Poverty
in the '90s is on the rise again with over a million Americans falling
into poverty in 1993.  
	The top income tax rate was reduced from 70% to 28% in the 1980s,
but the top 5 percent of all earners paid more, increasing their share of
all federal income taxes paid from 36% in 1980 to 43% in 1990.  
	In the 1980s, the percentage of African-American families earning
more than 50,000 in real dollars doubled from 7% to 14%, the unemployment
rate for black teenagers fell by 21% and black employment in professional
and managerial jobs expanded by one-third.  After declining 10% between
1978 and 1982, the real median income of black families increased by 17%
between 1982 and 1989.  
	The median weekly earnings of female workers grew 8% faster than
male earnings in the 1980s, and women entrepreneurs ended the decade
employing more people than all of the Fortune 500 companies combined. 

NOTE: All of the above statements are TRUE.  All information is based 
on Labor Department and Census Bureau studies under Democratic control.
Those missing more than 12 questions are eligible for Rhodes 
Scholarship assistance.

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B.J. (jeansguy@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: All you people who are answering "me too" to this thread are fucking 
: morons!  There are no "free" jpg's to be given by anybody.  This is just 
: some idiots way of wasting bandwidth by saying he will send you jpg's 
: and your all helping him by answering the thread with the stupid, 
: meaningless words, "me too."  Come on people, wake up and smell the 
: coffee and think with your upper head and not your lower one!

	Me too.
		John
							   
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From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sat Jul  6 12:01:24 PDT 1996
Article: 279492 of talk.politics.guns
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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    	The truth about Reagan's Economic Era (according to the Democrat's
own statistics): 

LIBERALS=DEMOCRATS=SOCIALISTS=COMMUNISTS=BUMS=PERVERTS=ABOMINATIONS be
			     FORWARNED! 
			     ~~~~~~~~~~
	   The following is a bitter pill to swallow. You 
	   may choke to death on it. Read at your peril!
	   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

			   The 1980's Test

This article originally appeared in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
on November 1, 1994.  It was written by Ralph R. Reiland, an associate
professor of economics at Robert Morris College in Pittsburgh.

-(All statistics taken from the US DEPARTMENT OF LABOR and CENSUS BUREAU.)-

The 1980's Test Regarding the 1980's, answer True or False to the
following statements: 

>From  1982 to 1989, 19 million net new jobs were created, two-thirds of
them high- or middle-paying, resulting in the lowest unemployment rate in
16 years.  The economic growth that flowed from the Reagan tax cuts
increased federal tax revenues in the 1980s by $1.1 trillion.  These
additional federal tax revenues contributed to the reduction of the
federal deficit from 6.3% of gross domestic product in 1983 to 2.9% in
1989.  

	Presidents Kennedy and Reagan both enacted supply-side tax cuts on
top income earners and job creators, and produced the two longest economic
expansions in American history.  
	The Reagan tax cuts trickled down to produce a 76% jump in new
business investment in real (adjusted for inflation) dollars in the 1980s
and tripled the rate of productivity growth.  Real per capita after-tax
income rose by 19% in the 1980s, nearly double the rate of the 1970s. 
Real family income increased every year from 1983 through 1990 in every
income group (from the poorest fifth of households to the richest fifth),
while median family income fell by 1.9% in 1993.  
	The real income of the poorest fifth of American families
increased by 12% in the 1980s, reversing their 17% slide in real income
between 1979 and 1983. Eighty-six percent of the tax filers of the poorest
fifth of families in 1980 moved out of that bottom quintile by 1988 (16%
moved all the way to the top fifth of income earners).  Real median income
increased 5% between 1982 and 1988 for those who started in the top fifth
on income earners, and increased 77% for those who started in the bottom
fifth.  
	Real family income declined each year from 1979 until 1982 and
declined each year since 1991---the Reagan years, sandwiched between the
two periods of shrinking income, produced a real increase of $4,877 in
median family annual real income.  Since 1988, the typical American
household has lost $2,344 in real annual income, and the degree of income
inequality is now at a post-World War II high.  
	After growing nationwide by 7 million people during the 1970s, the
poverty population declined by 4 million during the Reagan years; Poverty
in the '90s is on the rise again with over a million Americans falling
into poverty in 1993.  
	The top income tax rate was reduced from 70% to 28% in the 1980s,
but the top 5 percent of all earners paid more, increasing their share of
all federal income taxes paid from 36% in 1980 to 43% in 1990.  
	In the 1980s, the percentage of African-American families earning
more than 50,000 in real dollars doubled from 7% to 14%, the unemployment
rate for black teenagers fell by 21% and black employment in professional
and managerial jobs expanded by one-third.  After declining 10% between
1978 and 1982, the real median income of black families increased by 17%
between 1982 and 1989.  
	The median weekly earnings of female workers grew 8% faster than
male earnings in the 1980s, and women entrepreneurs ended the decade
employing more people than all of the Fortune 500 companies combined. 

NOTE: All of the above statements are TRUE.  All information is based 
on Labor Department and Census Bureau studies under Democratic control.
Those missing more than 12 questions are eligible for Rhodes 
Scholarship assistance.

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"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sat Jul  6 12:35:41 PDT 1996
Article: 253619 of alt.politics.clinton
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: Re: National Debt: Paying for Reaganism.
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    	The truth about Reagan's Economic Era (according to the Democrat's
own statistics): 

LIBERALS=DEMOCRATS=SOCIALISTS=COMMUNISTS=BUMS=PERVERTS=ABOMINATIONS be
			     FORWARNED! 
			     ~~~~~~~~~~
	   The following is a bitter pill to swallow. You 
	   may choke to death on it. Read at your peril!
	   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

			   The 1980's Test

This article originally appeared in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
on November 1, 1994.  It was written by Ralph R. Reiland, an associate
professor of economics at Robert Morris College in Pittsburgh.

-(All statistics taken from the US DEPARTMENT OF LABOR and CENSUS BUREAU.)-

The 1980's Test Regarding the 1980's, answer True or False to the
following statements: 

>From  1982 to 1989, 19 million net new jobs were created, two-thirds of
them high- or middle-paying, resulting in the lowest unemployment rate in
16 years.  The economic growth that flowed from the Reagan tax cuts
increased federal tax revenues in the 1980s by $1.1 trillion.  These
additional federal tax revenues contributed to the reduction of the
federal deficit from 6.3% of gross domestic product in 1983 to 2.9% in
1989.  

	Presidents Kennedy and Reagan both enacted supply-side tax cuts on
top income earners and job creators, and produced the two longest economic
expansions in American history.  
	The Reagan tax cuts trickled down to produce a 76% jump in new
business investment in real (adjusted for inflation) dollars in the 1980s
and tripled the rate of productivity growth.  Real per capita after-tax
income rose by 19% in the 1980s, nearly double the rate of the 1970s. 
Real family income increased every year from 1983 through 1990 in every
income group (from the poorest fifth of households to the richest fifth),
while median family income fell by 1.9% in 1993.  
	The real income of the poorest fifth of American families
increased by 12% in the 1980s, reversing their 17% slide in real income
between 1979 and 1983. Eighty-six percent of the tax filers of the poorest
fifth of families in 1980 moved out of that bottom quintile by 1988 (16%
moved all the way to the top fifth of income earners).  Real median income
increased 5% between 1982 and 1988 for those who started in the top fifth
on income earners, and increased 77% for those who started in the bottom
fifth.  
	Real family income declined each year from 1979 until 1982 and
declined each year since 1991---the Reagan years, sandwiched between the
two periods of shrinking income, produced a real increase of $4,877 in
median family annual real income.  Since 1988, the typical American
household has lost $2,344 in real annual income, and the degree of income
inequality is now at a post-World War II high.  
	After growing nationwide by 7 million people during the 1970s, the
poverty population declined by 4 million during the Reagan years; Poverty
in the '90s is on the rise again with over a million Americans falling
into poverty in 1993.  
	The top income tax rate was reduced from 70% to 28% in the 1980s,
but the top 5 percent of all earners paid more, increasing their share of
all federal income taxes paid from 36% in 1980 to 43% in 1990.  
	In the 1980s, the percentage of African-American families earning
more than 50,000 in real dollars doubled from 7% to 14%, the unemployment
rate for black teenagers fell by 21% and black employment in professional
and managerial jobs expanded by one-third.  After declining 10% between
1978 and 1982, the real median income of black families increased by 17%
between 1982 and 1989.  
	The median weekly earnings of female workers grew 8% faster than
male earnings in the 1980s, and women entrepreneurs ended the decade
employing more people than all of the Fortune 500 companies combined. 

NOTE: All of the above statements are TRUE.  All information is based 
on Labor Department and Census Bureau studies under Democratic control.
Those missing more than 12 questions are eligible for Rhodes 
Scholarship assistance.

http://www.eskimo.com/~jeremyps/" 
http://www.eskimo.com/~jeremyps/feedback.html"
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http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html
http://www.johnbirch.com/
http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/jbs/resource.html

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sat Jul  6 18:42:31 PDT 1996
Article: 48745 of alt.revisionism
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: INTERNET SHOCKER from GORE --->>
Date: 6 Jul 1996 16:22:47 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications
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NNTP-Posting-Host: shellx.best.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

	IF GORE is FOR the INTERNET we MUST realize the TERRIBLE TRUTH:
	---------------------------------------------------------------

	AS.....
	Internet Access Providers are bought up, one-by-one, by larger
	corps. and pressure is brought to bare we can only imagine that
	POLITICAL WEB PAGES, NEWSGROUPS, FTP sites etc. will be

	REMOVED/KILLED/CENSORED and/or CANCELED - possibly their authors
	---------------------------------------
	harassed, arrested or set-up and killed. All in the name of
				National Security.
				~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~
	(Even now FBI infiltrators may have been behind the violence in
	 most or all of the "militia" movements - with more "terrorist
	 acts" propagated by these FBI men to come until Martial Law is "a
	 regrettable final option". Then D-Calif. Tom Lantos-types can use
	 Tom's favorite word "terminate" on us all.)

	This has possibly begun already in Canada and on the WEB PAGES of
	others, including the American in political exile Michael Williams
	(living in Switzerland after years of torture in US prisons). 

	WE HAVE A SHOCK COMING IF CLINTON/GORE are FOR THE INTERNET!
	------------------------------------------------------------
			NOTHING these men (or their women) have
			ever been FOR has EVER BEEN GOOD for
			AMERICA - YOU and ME!

	Since all TALK RADIO is censored as it is (No talk of the One
World Order, Conspiracy or the Controlled Mass Media is allowed on pain of
firing) our final hopes are:

	INTERNET - FAXES - SHORT WAVE RADIO - TELEPHONE - S-MAIL -
	HANDBILLS - VOICES.

	We might prepare now for it. Alarmist? 
	Now we accept it as part of our lives that our TVs, Radios,
	Movies, Newspapers, Magazines, public schools and political
	leaders are all controlled by forces 
		CONTRARY to AMERICAS BEST INTERESTS.	
		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
	That each of those named are doing everything they can to end our
	Constitution, our liberty, our way of life and pervert us to a
	Totalitarian One World Government - BIG BROTHER!

	WE ARE INURED TO THESE CRIMES AGAINST FREEDOM TODAY!
	----------------------------------------------------

	WE CAN BECOME INURED TO THE LOSS OF ALL OUR FREEDOMS TOMORROW!
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
	Once upon a time these newsgroups were 50% LIBERAL postings.
				Today?
						John
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html
http://www.johnbirch.com/
http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/jbs/resource.html

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sat Jul  6 18:49:02 PDT 1996
Article: 35378 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power
Subject: INTERNET SHOCKER from GORE --->>
Date: 6 Jul 1996 16:14:51 GMT
Organization: Best Internet Communications
Lines: 70
Message-ID: <4rm3dr$joo@nntp1.best.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: shellx.best.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]

	IF GORE is FOR the INTERNET we MUST realize the TERRIBLE TRUTH:
	---------------------------------------------------------------

	AS.....
	Internet Access Providers are bought up, one-by-one, by larger
	corps. and pressure is brought to bare we can only imagine that
	POLITICAL WEB PAGES, NEWSGROUPS, FTP sites etc. will be

	REMOVED/KILLED/CENSORED and/or CANCELED - possibly their authors
	---------------------------------------
	harassed, arrested or set-up and killed. All in the name of
				National Security.
				~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~
	(Even now FBI infiltrators may have been behind the violence in
	 most or all of the "militia" movements - with more "terrorist
	 acts" propagated by these FBI men to come until Martial Law is "a
	 regrettable final option". Then D-Calif. Tom Lantos-types can use
	 Tom's favorite word "terminate" on us all.)

	This has possibly begun already in Canada and on the WEB PAGES of
	others, including the American in political exile Michael Williams
	(living in Switzerland after years of torture in US prisons). 

	WE HAVE A SHOCK COMING IF CLINTON/GORE are FOR THE INTERNET!
	------------------------------------------------------------
			NOTHING these men (or their women) have
			ever been FOR has EVER BEEN GOOD for
			AMERICA - YOU and ME!

	Since all TALK RADIO is censored as it is (No talk of the One
World Order, Conspiracy or the Controlled Mass Media is allowed on pain of
firing) our final hopes are:

	INTERNET - FAXES - SHORT WAVE RADIO - TELEPHONE - S-MAIL -
	HANDBILLS - VOICES.

	We might prepare now for it. Alarmist? 
	Now we accept it as part of our lives that our TVs, Radios,
	Movies, Newspapers, Magazines, public schools and political
	leaders are all controlled by forces 
		CONTRARY to AMERICAS BEST INTERESTS.	
		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
	That each of those named are doing everything they can to end our
	Constitution, our liberty, our way of life and pervert us to a
	Totalitarian One World Government - BIG BROTHER!

	WE ARE INURED TO THESE CRIMES AGAINST FREEDOM TODAY!
	----------------------------------------------------

	WE CAN BECOME INURED TO THE LOSS OF ALL OUR FREEDOMS TOMORROW!
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
	Once upon a time these newsgroups were 50% LIBERAL postings.
				Today?
						John
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html
http://www.johnbirch.com/
http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/jbs/resource.html

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sat Jul  6 18:51:27 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: INTERNET SHOCKER coming from GORE----->>>>
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	IF GORE is FOR the INTERNET we MUST realize the TERRIBLE TRUTH:
	---------------------------------------------------------------

	AS.....
	Internet Access Providers are bought up, one-by-one, by larger
	corps. and pressure is brought to bare we can only imagine that
	POLITICAL WEB PAGES, NEWSGROUPS, FTP sites etc. will be

	REMOVED/KILLED/CENSORED and/or CANCELED - possibly their authors
	---------------------------------------
	harassed, arrested or set-up and killed. All in the name of
				National Security.
				~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~
	(Even now FBI infiltrators may have been behind the violence in
	 most or all of the "militia" movements - with more "terrorist
	 acts" propagated by these FBI men to come until Martial Law is "a
	 regrettable final option". Then D-Calif. Tom Lantos-types can use
	 Tom's favorite word "terminate" on us all.)

	This has possibly begun already in Canada and on the WEB PAGES of
	others, including the American in political exile Michael Williams
	(living in Switzerland after years of torture in US prisons). 

	WE HAVE A SHOCK COMING IF CLINTON/GORE are FOR THE INTERNET!
	------------------------------------------------------------
			NOTHING these men (or their women) have
			ever been FOR has EVER BEEN GOOD for
			AMERICA - YOU and ME!

	Since all TALK RADIO is censored as it is (No talk of the One
World Order, Conspiracy or the Controlled Mass Media is allowed on pain of
firing) our final hopes are:

	INTERNET - FAXES - SHORT WAVE RADIO - TELEPHONE - S-MAIL -
	HANDBILLS - VOICES.

	We might prepare now for it. Alarmist? 
	Now we accept it as part of our lives that our TVs, Radios,
	Movies, Newspapers, Magazines, public schools and political
	leaders are all controlled by forces 
		CONTRARY to AMERICAS BEST INTERESTS.	
		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
	That each of those named are doing everything they can to end our
	Constitution, our liberty, our way of life and pervert us to a
	Totalitarian One World Government - BIG BROTHER!

	WE ARE INURED TO THESE CRIMES AGAINST FREEDOM TODAY!
	----------------------------------------------------

	WE CAN BECOME INURED TO THE LOSS OF ALL OUR FREEDOMS TOMORROW!
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
	Once upon a time these newsgroups were 50% LIBERAL postings.
				Today?
						John
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html
http://www.johnbirch.com/
http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/jbs/resource.html

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine



From jdulaney@nntp1.best.com Sat Jul  6 19:08:11 PDT 1996
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	IF GORE is FOR the INTERNET we MUST realize the TERRIBLE TRUTH:
	---------------------------------------------------------------

	AS.....
	Internet Access Providers are bought up, one-by-one, by larger
	corps. and pressure is brought to bare we can only imagine that
	POLITICAL WEB PAGES, NEWSGROUPS, FTP sites etc. will be

	REMOVED/KILLED/CENSORED and/or CANCELED - possibly their authors
	---------------------------------------
	harassed, arrested or set-up and killed. All in the name of
				National Security.
				~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~
	(Even now FBI infiltrators may have been behind the violence in
	 most or all of the "militia" movements - with more "terrorist
	 acts" propagated by these FBI men to come until Martial Law is "a
	 regrettable final option". Then D-Calif. Tom Lantos-types can use
	 Tom's favorite word "terminate" on us all.)

	This has possibly begun already in Canada and on the WEB PAGES of
	others, including the American in political exile Michael Williams
	(living in Switzerland after years of torture in US prisons). 

	WE HAVE A SHOCK COMING IF CLINTON/GORE are FOR THE INTERNET!
	------------------------------------------------------------
			NOTHING these men (or their women) have
			ever been FOR has EVER BEEN GOOD for
			AMERICA - YOU and ME!

	Since all TALK RADIO is censored as it is (No talk of the One
World Order, Conspiracy or the Controlled Mass Media is allowed on pain of
firing) our final hopes are:

	INTERNET - FAXES - SHORT WAVE RADIO - TELEPHONE - S-MAIL -
	HANDBILLS - VOICES.

	We might prepare now for it. Alarmist? 
	Now we accept it as part of our lives that our TVs, Radios,
	Movies, Newspapers, Magazines, public schools and political
	leaders are all controlled by forces 
		CONTRARY to AMERICAS BEST INTERESTS.	
		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
	That each of those named are doing everything they can to end our
	Constitution, our liberty, our way of life and pervert us to a
	Totalitarian One World Government - BIG BROTHER!

	WE ARE INURED TO THESE CRIMES AGAINST FREEDOM TODAY!
	----------------------------------------------------

	WE CAN BECOME INURED TO THE LOSS OF ALL OUR FREEDOMS TOMORROW!
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
	Once upon a time these newsgroups were 50% LIBERAL postings.
				Today?
						John
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html
http://www.johnbirch.com/
http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/jbs/resource.html

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sat Jul  6 21:09:34 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: INTERNET SHOCKER from GORE-->>
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	IF GORE is FOR the INTERNET we MUST realize the TERRIBLE TRUTH:
	---------------------------------------------------------------

	AS.....
	Internet Access Providers are bought up, one-by-one, by larger
	corps. and pressure is brought to bare we can only imagine that
	POLITICAL WEB PAGES, NEWSGROUPS, FTP sites etc. will be

	REMOVED/KILLED/CENSORED and/or CANCELED - possibly their authors
	---------------------------------------
	harassed, arrested or set-up and killed. All in the name of
				National Security.
				~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~
	(Even now FBI infiltrators may have been behind the violence in
	 most or all of the "militia" movements - with more "terrorist
	 acts" propagated by these FBI men to come until Martial Law is "a
	 regrettable final option". Then D-Calif. Tom Lantos-types can use
	 Tom's favorite word "terminate" on us all.)

	This has possibly begun already in Canada and on the WEB PAGES of
	others, including the American in political exile Michael Williams
	(living in Switzerland after years of torture in US prisons). 

	WE HAVE A SHOCK COMING IF CLINTON/GORE are FOR THE INTERNET!
	------------------------------------------------------------
			NOTHING these men (or their women) have
			ever been FOR has EVER BEEN GOOD for
			AMERICA - YOU and ME!

	Since all TALK RADIO is censored as it is (No talk of the One
World Order, Conspiracy or the Controlled Mass Media is allowed on pain of
firing) our final hopes are:

	INTERNET - FAXES - SHORT WAVE RADIO - TELEPHONE - S-MAIL -
	HANDBILLS - VOICES.

	We might prepare now for it. Alarmist? 
	Now we accept it as part of our lives that our TVs, Radios,
	Movies, Newspapers, Magazines, public schools and political
	leaders are all controlled by forces 
		CONTRARY to AMERICAS BEST INTERESTS.	
		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
	That each of those named are doing everything they can to end our
	Constitution, our liberty, our way of life and pervert us to a
	Totalitarian One World Government - BIG BROTHER!

	WE ARE INURED TO THESE CRIMES AGAINST FREEDOM TODAY!
	----------------------------------------------------

	WE CAN BECOME INURED TO THE LOSS OF ALL OUR FREEDOMS TOMORROW!
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
	Once upon a time these newsgroups were 50% LIBERAL postings.
				Today?
						John
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html
http://www.johnbirch.com/
http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/jbs/resource.html

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Mon Jul  8 20:37:13 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: INTERNET SHOCKER from GORE-->>
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	IF GORE is FOR the INTERNET we MUST realize the TERRIBLE TRUTH:
	---------------------------------------------------------------

	AS.....
	Internet Access Providers are bought up, one-by-one, by larger
	corps. and pressure is brought to bare we can only imagine that
	POLITICAL WEB PAGES, NEWSGROUPS, FTP sites etc. will be

	REMOVED/KILLED/CENSORED and/or CANCELED - possibly their authors
	---------------------------------------
	harassed, arrested or set-up and killed. All in the name of
				National Security.
				~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~
	(Even now FBI infiltrators may have been behind the violence in
	 most or all of the "militia" movements - with more "terrorist
	 acts" propagated by these FBI men to come until Martial Law is "a
	 regrettable final option". Then D-Calif. Tom Lantos-types can use
	 Tom's favorite word "terminate" on us all.)

	This has possibly begun already in Canada and on the WEB PAGES of
	others, including the American in political exile Michael Williams
	(living in Switzerland after years of torture in US prisons). 

	WE HAVE A SHOCK COMING IF CLINTON/GORE are FOR THE INTERNET!
	------------------------------------------------------------
			NOTHING these men (or their women) have
			ever been FOR has EVER BEEN GOOD for
			AMERICA - YOU and ME!

	Since all TALK RADIO is censored as it is (No talk of the One
World Order, Conspiracy or the Controlled Mass Media is allowed on pain of
firing) our final hopes are:

	INTERNET - FAXES - SHORT WAVE RADIO - TELEPHONE - S-MAIL -
	HANDBILLS - VOICES.

	We might prepare now for it. Alarmist? 
	Now we accept it as part of our lives that our TVs, Radios,
	Movies, Newspapers, Magazines, public schools and political
	leaders are all controlled by forces 
		CONTRARY to AMERICAS BEST INTERESTS.	
		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
	That each of those named are doing everything they can to end our
	Constitution, our liberty, our way of life and pervert us to a
	Totalitarian One World Government - BIG BROTHER!

	WE ARE INURED TO THESE CRIMES AGAINST FREEDOM TODAY!
	----------------------------------------------------

	WE CAN BECOME INURED TO THE LOSS OF ALL OUR FREEDOMS TOMORROW!
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
	Once upon a time these newsgroups were 50% LIBERAL postings.
				Today?
						John
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html
http://www.johnbirch.com/
http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/jbs/resource.html

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Tue Jul  9 08:17:38 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Robert Malecki (malecki@algonet.se) wrote:

: Not that i think that Clinton or Gore defend anybodies human rights
: including the above mentioned. However i doubt that the right wing
: which you appear to represent including the "john Birch" society will
: ever defend human rights.

	The JBS does 2 things:
	1) Promotes our Constitution through education about it and those
	   things that attack it.
	2) Educates the public on the voting record of our elected
	   officials.

	The JBS is an educational society only - it is APOLITICAL.
	If you ever decide to discover the truth about the JBS you'll
discover the facts of decades of demonization of the JBS by the controlled
media and all leftists - even the Republicans as well.
	The JBS defends human rights FAR more seriously than any other
organization you can think of simply by teaching and promoting the value
of our Constitution.
	You can NOT find any evidence to the contrary from anything
written or spoken or acted on from the JBS.

	I'll make it simple:
	If you believe the Constitution is still an important piece of
paper then you HAVE NEVER read anything contrary to your own opinions from
the JBS.
	The info. you have all comes from the enemies of our Constitution.
	The MASS MEDIA, to name one.

	Because we DO promote the Constitution and educate the public
about anything that attacks it the controlled media has LIED about the JBS
(as they lie daily about everything traditionally American) since the JBS
began, 40+ years ago.

 : In fact it is more like one violatator of human rights accusing
the
: other violatior of human rights of not being for a particular brand of
: human rights.

	You seem intellegent.
	Can you offer any evidence of this statement as it regards the
JBS? If you can't would you consider that what you have heard for years
should, possibly, be investigated for truthfullness?

: In fact both the pubs and the dems have a horrible track record on
: anything which could be called human rights at all.

	I agree. 1,000%.
	But the JBS is NOT Republican!
	We feel BOTH parties are the SAME PARTY!
	Two roads to Totalitarianism, one slower than the other.
	But we do NOT promote any party. We educate with FACTS.
	This makes us the most feared org. in the US.

 Both parties
: appear to have a policy of defending the interests of the rich and
: powerful and sections of the middle class at the expense of poor and
: working class people.

	They have both been long bought off by BIG MONEY.
	
: So your whining about human rights unfortunately should be taken with
: a nip of salt..
: Robert Malecki

	Please respond.
	John

For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html
http://www.johnbirch.com/
http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/jbs/resource.html

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine


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Patrick Crumhorn (patrik@io.com) wrote:
:      This is, of course, utter fantasy.  It's quite possible that 
: Reagan's Dept. of Labor released such fanciful statistics, but a perusal 
: of the Federal Budget of the United States over the years in question 
: shows a massive hemmorhage of tax revenue, coupled with an incredibly 
: large increase in debt issuance to cover the cost of an almost-tripling 
: of the military budget.

	The Dems. in Congress ran amuk, as usual, with the extra revenue.
	As every person on earth, but you, knows Reagan's SDI ended the
cold war, destroyed Communism in 90% of the world, gave us the PEACE BONUS
in funds now that we don't need the Cold War military and is the direct
reason for the first Democratic elections in Russian history and the great
success and improvement in the quality of life in dozens of countries that
finally threw off the yoke of Communism.
	Does all this make you very, very angry?
		John							   

For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html
http://www.johnbirch.com/
http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/jbs/resource.html

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine


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TaxService (taxservice@aol.com) wrote:
: In article <4rm433$joo@nntp1.best.com>, jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John
: Dulaney) writes:

: >LIBERALS=DEMOCRATS=SOCIALISTS=COMMUNISTS=BUMS=PERVERTS=ABOMINATIONS be
: >			     FORWARNED! 

: CONSERVATIVES=REPUBLICANS=FACISTS=NEO-NAZI SYMPATHIZERS=PERVERTS=CLOSET
: DEGENERATES=RELIGIOUS FANATICS=SEGREGATIONSTS=THE KLAN=THE ENEMIES OF
: GOD!!

	Witty!
	
: WHERE DO YOU BELONG JOHN??  DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN THE UNIVERSALITY OR
: THE CATHOLICITY OF YOUR COMMENTS??  DON'T YOU KNOW THAT MY STATEMENT IS
: EQUALLY CREDULOUS-INCREDULOUS???

	Not at all.
	Today those who vote for a Clinton or Dole are either
abominations, bums etc. or Communists etc. 
	As a Conservative I am not any of the others you name.
	
: IS YOUR PROPAGANDA MOTIVATED BY THE EXCELLENCE WITH WHICH THE ECONOMY IS
: NOW PROGRESSING?? 

	I know you want to believe everything Bill Clinton says.
	Michael Reagan went through Clinton's caims last week.
	He ripped them into tiny bits.
	But....you love a liar.
	I hope Clinton will get a second term.
	Starr will indict him in 97 and that'll be the beginning of your
real education.

 HAVE YOU READ THE LATEST STATISTICS?? IT APPEARS THAT,
: UNDER OUR PRESIDENT, CLINTON,  WE ARE SHOWING THE GREATEST PROGRESS IN A
: GENERATION!!

	Does it?
	No words can express my feelings on your gullibility.

: Do you really think this sillyness is appropriate to all of the groups to
: which you have posted??

	Your sillyness?
	Oh, it's charming enough, I guess.

: Please excuse the shouts, it's in response to a shout!!
: "Jack"

: Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise!!

	True. But:
	
"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

	John


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Tue Jul  9 08:34:34 PDT 1996
Article: 88016 of alt.censorship
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: Re: National Debt: Paying for Reaganism.
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Patrick Crumhorn (patrik@io.com) wrote:
:      This is, of course, utter fantasy.  It's quite possible that 
: Reagan's Dept. of Labor released such fanciful statistics, but a perusal 
: of the Federal Budget of the United States over the years in question 
: shows a massive hemmorhage of tax revenue, coupled with an incredibly 
: large increase in debt issuance to cover the cost of an almost-tripling 
: of the military budget.

	The Dems. in Congress ran amuk, as usual, with the extra revenue.
	As every person on earth, but you, knows Reagan's SDI ended the
cold war, destroyed Communism in 90% of the world, gave us the PEACE BONUS
in funds now that we don't need the Cold War military and is the direct
reason for the first Democratic elections in Russian history and the great
success and improvement in the quality of life in dozens of countries that
finally threw off the yoke of Communism.
	Does all this make you very, very angry?
		John							   

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"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Tue Jul  9 08:34:37 PDT 1996
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TaxService (taxservice@aol.com) wrote:
: In article <4rm433$joo@nntp1.best.com>, jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John
: Dulaney) writes:

: >LIBERALS=DEMOCRATS=SOCIALISTS=COMMUNISTS=BUMS=PERVERTS=ABOMINATIONS be
: >			     FORWARNED! 

: CONSERVATIVES=REPUBLICANS=FACISTS=NEO-NAZI SYMPATHIZERS=PERVERTS=CLOSET
: DEGENERATES=RELIGIOUS FANATICS=SEGREGATIONSTS=THE KLAN=THE ENEMIES OF
: GOD!!

	Witty!
	
: WHERE DO YOU BELONG JOHN??  DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN THE UNIVERSALITY OR
: THE CATHOLICITY OF YOUR COMMENTS??  DON'T YOU KNOW THAT MY STATEMENT IS
: EQUALLY CREDULOUS-INCREDULOUS???

	Not at all.
	Today those who vote for a Clinton or Dole are either
abominations, bums etc. or Communists etc. 
	As a Conservative I am not any of the others you name.
	
: IS YOUR PROPAGANDA MOTIVATED BY THE EXCELLENCE WITH WHICH THE ECONOMY IS
: NOW PROGRESSING?? 

	I know you want to believe everything Bill Clinton says.
	Michael Reagan went through Clinton's caims last week.
	He ripped them into tiny bits.
	But....you love a liar.
	I hope Clinton will get a second term.
	Starr will indict him in 97 and that'll be the beginning of your
real education.

 HAVE YOU READ THE LATEST STATISTICS?? IT APPEARS THAT,
: UNDER OUR PRESIDENT, CLINTON,  WE ARE SHOWING THE GREATEST PROGRESS IN A
: GENERATION!!

	Does it?
	No words can express my feelings on your gullibility.

: Do you really think this sillyness is appropriate to all of the groups to
: which you have posted??

	Your sillyness?
	Oh, it's charming enough, I guess.

: Please excuse the shouts, it's in response to a shout!!
: "Jack"

: Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise!!

	True. But:
	
"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

	John


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Tue Jul  9 11:41:16 PDT 1996
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Subject: INTERNET SHOCKER from GORE --->>
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	IF GORE is FOR the INTERNET we MUST realize the TERRIBLE TRUTH:
	---------------------------------------------------------------

	AS.....
	Internet Access Providers are bought up, one-by-one, by larger
	corps. and pressure is brought to bare we can only imagine that
	POLITICAL WEB PAGES, NEWSGROUPS, FTP sites etc. will be

	REMOVED/KILLED/CENSORED and/or CANCELED - possibly their authors
	---------------------------------------
	harassed, arrested or set-up and killed. All in the name of
				National Security.
				~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~
	(Even now FBI infiltrators may have been behind the violence in
	 most or all of the "militia" movements - with more "terrorist
	 acts" propagated by these FBI men to come until Martial Law is "a
	 regrettable final option". Then D-Calif. Tom Lantos-types can use
	 Tom's favorite word "terminate" on us all.)

	This has possibly begun already in Canada and on the WEB PAGES of
	others, including the American in political exile Michael Williams
	(living in Switzerland after years of torture in US prisons). 

	WE HAVE A SHOCK COMING IF CLINTON/GORE are FOR THE INTERNET!
	------------------------------------------------------------
			NOTHING these men (or their women) have
			ever been FOR has EVER BEEN GOOD for
			AMERICA - YOU and ME!

	Since all TALK RADIO is censored as it is (No talk of the One
World Order, Conspiracy or the Controlled Mass Media is allowed on pain of
firing) our final hopes are:

	INTERNET - FAXES - SHORT WAVE RADIO - TELEPHONE - S-MAIL -
	HANDBILLS - VOICES.

	We might prepare now for it. Alarmist? 
	Now we accept it as part of our lives that our TVs, Radios,
	Movies, Newspapers, Magazines, public schools and political
	leaders are all controlled by forces 
		CONTRARY to AMERICAS BEST INTERESTS.	
		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
	That each of those named are doing everything they can to end our
	Constitution, our liberty, our way of life and pervert us to a
	Totalitarian One World Government - BIG BROTHER!

	WE ARE INURED TO THESE CRIMES AGAINST FREEDOM TODAY!
	----------------------------------------------------

	WE CAN BECOME INURED TO THE LOSS OF ALL OUR FREEDOMS TOMORROW!
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
	Once upon a time these newsgroups were 50% LIBERAL postings.
				Today?
						John
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violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

"A thousand years hence, perhaps in less, America may be what Europe is
now....  the noblest work of human wisdom, the grand scene of human glory,
the fair cause of freedom that rose and fell." 
					--- Thomas Paine



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From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Thu Jul 11 08:48:52 PDT 1996
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Charles (joebuck@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: "Put that coffee DOWN! Coffee's for CLOSERS only!"
: "You drove a HYUNDAI to get here tonight ... I drove an $83,000
:  BMW . . .  THAT'S my name!"
: "I can speak only to a Mr. or Mrs. 'Nyborg.'" 
:         -- "Glengarry Glen Ross"

	For the record:
	It was $80,000.

	Thanks for the post!
	John


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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: HIGH TREASON! FACTS/NAMES & PLAN to ACT!
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	HIGH TREASON! LET US ACCUSE TOGETHER! STAND UP! BE COUNTED!
	-----------------------------------------------------------
	The points of the short excerpt that follows have been ridiculed
	and demonized for decades by the MEDIA. 
	
	Perhaps today some who read this will believe it can actually be
	true. Our futures depend on this belief. Your belief.

	EXCERPTS FROM: 

	A SPEECH GIVEN: 9-17-94: VFW MEMORIAL, MARTINEZ, CA. and
                        9-20-94: SANTA ROSA LIONS CLUB, 9-20-94
   
	  [Please request the full text - jdulaney@best.com 
	  this piece written by a Chapter Leader of the JBS, 
	  Jerry Denham in his and our continuing effort to
	  return our nation to Freedom and our Constitution.]
---------------------------------------------------------------------

   I intend to demonstrate and prove to you:
                          
    How a Conspiratorial Group, Masquerading as the United States
Government is and has been making WAR on the American people (including
Drug Warfare [all the while pretending to conduct a "War on Drugs"],
Psychological Warfare, Propaganda Warfare [examples of which are the
so-called War on Poverty, and President Ford's "Whip Inflation Now !"
campaign], Agitation and Provocation of Controlled Riots (the Los Angeles
riot of 1993, and the nationwide riots of the Sixties).  It (this group) 
has taken Direct Military Action (KAL007, Waco, Naples, Idaho, etc.) 
against the American people, and has, based on what we would call today a
"think tank" study [conducted by the Carnegie Endowment for International
Peace in 1910], purposely involved our Nation in a brutal century of
warfare, using war as a purposely-selected methodology, to radically
change our Nation, [meanwhile keeping us busy, diverting our attention],
in order that America might be merged into a world totalitarian
dictatorship under the group's control---their Fourth Reich,
    The New World Order. 
      
    This speech is an Appeal to God and my fellow Citizens of the
Sovereign California Republic (admitted to the Union September 9, 1850, by
the Congress of the United States, in compliance with Article IV) for
JUSTICE !  It is an inflammatory speech (I hope), consisting of the
presentation of evidence calling for indictment of the following named and
unnamed co-conspirators in a plot to commit High Treason against our
Republic, with malice aforethought, and intent to subvert the
Constitution, and to substitute the clearly inferior Charter of the
so-called "United Nations" as the Supreme Law of the Land (Article VI,
second paragraph):
    
    I accuse the following of this high crime:
    
         Wesley Fischel, Col. Ed Lansdale, McGeorge Bundy, Henry Kissinger,  
         John J. McCloy, Dwight David Eisenhower, George Marshall, Herbert
         Brownell, Edward Mandell House, Woodrow Wilson, Dean Acheson,
         George Shultz, Dick Cheney, Owen Lattimore, Alger Hiss, James
         Baker, John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, Richard Milhous Nixon, 
	 Herbert Hoover, Earl Warren, Robert Byrd, Mike Mansfield, Lyndon 
	 Baines Johnson, John Kerry, John McCain, Ann Mills Griffith, Brent   
         Scowcroft, Lawrence Eagleburger, Ford, Sheetz, Trowbridge,          
         George Prescott Bush, Ronald Wilson Reagan, James Earl Carter, 
	 Gerald Ford, Stephen Solarz, Thomas Dodd, Dean Rusk, Robert S. 
	 McNamara and Does #1 to #5,000,000, both living and dead,
         
      and require them to answer this charge of High Treason (Article II,
      Section 4; Article III, Section 3) against the States and the People. 
      Most, if not all, of the co-conspirators have sworn an oath to support 
      and defend the Constitution for the United States; some of the above
      have sworn to defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic. 
      For these, the additional charge of violation of their oath of
      office is brought.   
 
Fellow Yeomen,           

    You have been deceived and used, and the oath you or your young
soldier swore (to support and defend to Constitution---) has been the
means of betraya........ etc. (end of excerpt)

	For the complete text please write me: 
	John Dulaney jdulaney@best.com 
	or see my WEB PAGE (address below)

	To contact the author you may E-mail him at:
	--------------------------------------------
	Jerry Denham 76032.3653@compuserve.com
	He can out you together with your local John Birch Society where
you can actually LEARN the FACTS!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Thu Jul 11 09:30:27 PDT 1996
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	HIGH TREASON! LET US ACCUSE TOGETHER! STAND UP! BE COUNTED!
	-----------------------------------------------------------
	The points of the short excerpt that follows have been ridiculed
	and demonized for decades by the MEDIA. 
	
	Perhaps today some who read this will believe it can actually be
	true. Our futures depend on this belief. Your belief.

	EXCERPTS FROM: 

	A SPEECH GIVEN: 9-17-94: VFW MEMORIAL, MARTINEZ, CA. and
                        9-20-94: SANTA ROSA LIONS CLUB, 9-20-94
   
	  [Please request the full text - jdulaney@best.com 
	  this piece written by a Chapter Leader of the JBS, 
	  Jerry Denham in his and our continuing effort to
	  return our nation to Freedom and our Constitution.]
---------------------------------------------------------------------

   I intend to demonstrate and prove to you:
                          
    How a Conspiratorial Group, Masquerading as the United States
Government is and has been making WAR on the American people (including
Drug Warfare [all the while pretending to conduct a "War on Drugs"],
Psychological Warfare, Propaganda Warfare [examples of which are the
so-called War on Poverty, and President Ford's "Whip Inflation Now !"
campaign], Agitation and Provocation of Controlled Riots (the Los Angeles
riot of 1993, and the nationwide riots of the Sixties).  It (this group) 
has taken Direct Military Action (KAL007, Waco, Naples, Idaho, etc.) 
against the American people, and has, based on what we would call today a
"think tank" study [conducted by the Carnegie Endowment for International
Peace in 1910], purposely involved our Nation in a brutal century of
warfare, using war as a purposely-selected methodology, to radically
change our Nation, [meanwhile keeping us busy, diverting our attention],
in order that America might be merged into a world totalitarian
dictatorship under the group's control---their Fourth Reich,
    The New World Order. 
      
    This speech is an Appeal to God and my fellow Citizens of the
Sovereign California Republic (admitted to the Union September 9, 1850, by
the Congress of the United States, in compliance with Article IV) for
JUSTICE !  It is an inflammatory speech (I hope), consisting of the
presentation of evidence calling for indictment of the following named and
unnamed co-conspirators in a plot to commit High Treason against our
Republic, with malice aforethought, and intent to subvert the
Constitution, and to substitute the clearly inferior Charter of the
so-called "United Nations" as the Supreme Law of the Land (Article VI,
second paragraph):
    
    I accuse the following of this high crime:
    
         Wesley Fischel, Col. Ed Lansdale, McGeorge Bundy, Henry Kissinger,  
         John J. McCloy, Dwight David Eisenhower, George Marshall, Herbert
         Brownell, Edward Mandell House, Woodrow Wilson, Dean Acheson,
         George Shultz, Dick Cheney, Owen Lattimore, Alger Hiss, James
         Baker, John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, Richard Milhous Nixon, 
	 Herbert Hoover, Earl Warren, Robert Byrd, Mike Mansfield, Lyndon 
	 Baines Johnson, John Kerry, John McCain, Ann Mills Griffith, Brent   
         Scowcroft, Lawrence Eagleburger, Ford, Sheetz, Trowbridge,          
         George Prescott Bush, Ronald Wilson Reagan, James Earl Carter, 
	 Gerald Ford, Stephen Solarz, Thomas Dodd, Dean Rusk, Robert S. 
	 McNamara and Does #1 to #5,000,000, both living and dead,
         
      and require them to answer this charge of High Treason (Article II,
      Section 4; Article III, Section 3) against the States and the People. 
      Most, if not all, of the co-conspirators have sworn an oath to support 
      and defend the Constitution for the United States; some of the above
      have sworn to defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic. 
      For these, the additional charge of violation of their oath of
      office is brought.   
 
Fellow Yeomen,           

    You have been deceived and used, and the oath you or your young
soldier swore (to support and defend to Constitution---) has been the
means of betraya........ etc. (end of excerpt)

	For the complete text please write me: 
	John Dulaney jdulaney@best.com 
	or see my WEB PAGE (address below)

	To contact the author you may E-mail him at:
	--------------------------------------------
	Jerry Denham 76032.3653@compuserve.com
	He can out you together with your local John Birch Society where
you can actually LEARN the FACTS!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Thu Jul 11 09:52:35 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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	HIGH TREASON! LET US ACCUSE TOGETHER! STAND UP! BE COUNTED!
	-----------------------------------------------------------
	The points of the short excerpt that follows have been ridiculed
	and demonized for decades by the MEDIA. 
	
	Perhaps today some who read this will believe it can actually be
	true. Our futures depend on this belief. Your belief.

	EXCERPTS FROM: 

	A SPEECH GIVEN: 9-17-94: VFW MEMORIAL, MARTINEZ, CA. and
                        9-20-94: SANTA ROSA LIONS CLUB, 9-20-94
   
	  [Please request the full text - jdulaney@best.com 
	  this piece written by a Chapter Leader of the JBS, 
	  Jerry Denham in his and our continuing effort to
	  return our nation to Freedom and our Constitution.]
---------------------------------------------------------------------

   I intend to demonstrate and prove to you:
                          
    How a Conspiratorial Group, Masquerading as the United States
Government is and has been making WAR on the American people (including
Drug Warfare [all the while pretending to conduct a "War on Drugs"],
Psychological Warfare, Propaganda Warfare [examples of which are the
so-called War on Poverty, and President Ford's "Whip Inflation Now !"
campaign], Agitation and Provocation of Controlled Riots (the Los Angeles
riot of 1993, and the nationwide riots of the Sixties).  It (this group) 
has taken Direct Military Action (KAL007, Waco, Naples, Idaho, etc.) 
against the American people, and has, based on what we would call today a
"think tank" study [conducted by the Carnegie Endowment for International
Peace in 1910], purposely involved our Nation in a brutal century of
warfare, using war as a purposely-selected methodology, to radically
change our Nation, [meanwhile keeping us busy, diverting our attention],
in order that America might be merged into a world totalitarian
dictatorship under the group's control---their Fourth Reich,
    The New World Order. 
      
    This speech is an Appeal to God and my fellow Citizens of the
Sovereign California Republic (admitted to the Union September 9, 1850, by
the Congress of the United States, in compliance with Article IV) for
JUSTICE !  It is an inflammatory speech (I hope), consisting of the
presentation of evidence calling for indictment of the following named and
unnamed co-conspirators in a plot to commit High Treason against our
Republic, with malice aforethought, and intent to subvert the
Constitution, and to substitute the clearly inferior Charter of the
so-called "United Nations" as the Supreme Law of the Land (Article VI,
second paragraph):
    
    I accuse the following of this high crime:
    
         Wesley Fischel, Col. Ed Lansdale, McGeorge Bundy, Henry Kissinger,  
         John J. McCloy, Dwight David Eisenhower, George Marshall, Herbert
         Brownell, Edward Mandell House, Woodrow Wilson, Dean Acheson,
         George Shultz, Dick Cheney, Owen Lattimore, Alger Hiss, James
         Baker, John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, Richard Milhous Nixon, 
	 Herbert Hoover, Earl Warren, Robert Byrd, Mike Mansfield, Lyndon 
	 Baines Johnson, John Kerry, John McCain, Ann Mills Griffith, Brent   
         Scowcroft, Lawrence Eagleburger, Ford, Sheetz, Trowbridge,          
         George Prescott Bush, Ronald Wilson Reagan, James Earl Carter, 
	 Gerald Ford, Stephen Solarz, Thomas Dodd, Dean Rusk, Robert S. 
	 McNamara and Does #1 to #5,000,000, both living and dead,
         
      and require them to answer this charge of High Treason (Article II,
      Section 4; Article III, Section 3) against the States and the People. 
      Most, if not all, of the co-conspirators have sworn an oath to support 
      and defend the Constitution for the United States; some of the above
      have sworn to defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic. 
      For these, the additional charge of violation of their oath of
      office is brought.   
 
Fellow Yeomen,           

    You have been deceived and used, and the oath you or your young
soldier swore (to support and defend to Constitution---) has been the
means of betraya........ etc. (end of excerpt)

	For the complete text please write me: 
	John Dulaney jdulaney@best.com 
	or see my WEB PAGE (address below)

	To contact the author you may E-mail him at:
	--------------------------------------------
	Jerry Denham 76032.3653@compuserve.com
	He can out you together with your local John Birch Society where
you can actually LEARN the FACTS!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Thu Jul 11 10:18:21 PDT 1996
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Subject: HIGH TREASON! FACTS/NAMES & PLAN to ACT!
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	HIGH TREASON! LET US ACCUSE TOGETHER! STAND UP! BE COUNTED!
	-----------------------------------------------------------
	The points of the short excerpt that follows have been ridiculed
	and demonized for decades by the MEDIA. 
	
	Perhaps today some who read this will believe it can actually be
	true. Our futures depend on this belief. Your belief.

	EXCERPTS FROM: 

	A SPEECH GIVEN: 9-17-94: VFW MEMORIAL, MARTINEZ, CA. and
                        9-20-94: SANTA ROSA LIONS CLUB, 9-20-94
   
	  [Please request the full text - jdulaney@best.com 
	  this piece written by a Chapter Leader of the JBS, 
	  Jerry Denham in his and our continuing effort to
	  return our nation to Freedom and our Constitution.]
---------------------------------------------------------------------

   I intend to demonstrate and prove to you:
                          
    How a Conspiratorial Group, Masquerading as the United States
Government is and has been making WAR on the American people (including
Drug Warfare [all the while pretending to conduct a "War on Drugs"],
Psychological Warfare, Propaganda Warfare [examples of which are the
so-called War on Poverty, and President Ford's "Whip Inflation Now !"
campaign], Agitation and Provocation of Controlled Riots (the Los Angeles
riot of 1993, and the nationwide riots of the Sixties).  It (this group) 
has taken Direct Military Action (KAL007, Waco, Naples, Idaho, etc.) 
against the American people, and has, based on what we would call today a
"think tank" study [conducted by the Carnegie Endowment for International
Peace in 1910], purposely involved our Nation in a brutal century of
warfare, using war as a purposely-selected methodology, to radically
change our Nation, [meanwhile keeping us busy, diverting our attention],
in order that America might be merged into a world totalitarian
dictatorship under the group's control---their Fourth Reich,
    The New World Order. 
      
    This speech is an Appeal to God and my fellow Citizens of the
Sovereign California Republic (admitted to the Union September 9, 1850, by
the Congress of the United States, in compliance with Article IV) for
JUSTICE !  It is an inflammatory speech (I hope), consisting of the
presentation of evidence calling for indictment of the following named and
unnamed co-conspirators in a plot to commit High Treason against our
Republic, with malice aforethought, and intent to subvert the
Constitution, and to substitute the clearly inferior Charter of the
so-called "United Nations" as the Supreme Law of the Land (Article VI,
second paragraph):
    
    I accuse the following of this high crime:
    
         Wesley Fischel, Col. Ed Lansdale, McGeorge Bundy, Henry Kissinger,  
         John J. McCloy, Dwight David Eisenhower, George Marshall, Herbert
         Brownell, Edward Mandell House, Woodrow Wilson, Dean Acheson,
         George Shultz, Dick Cheney, Owen Lattimore, Alger Hiss, James
         Baker, John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, Richard Milhous Nixon, 
	 Herbert Hoover, Earl Warren, Robert Byrd, Mike Mansfield, Lyndon 
	 Baines Johnson, John Kerry, John McCain, Ann Mills Griffith, Brent   
         Scowcroft, Lawrence Eagleburger, Ford, Sheetz, Trowbridge,          
         George Prescott Bush, Ronald Wilson Reagan, James Earl Carter, 
	 Gerald Ford, Stephen Solarz, Thomas Dodd, Dean Rusk, Robert S. 
	 McNamara and Does #1 to #5,000,000, both living and dead,
         
      and require them to answer this charge of High Treason (Article II,
      Section 4; Article III, Section 3) against the States and the People. 
      Most, if not all, of the co-conspirators have sworn an oath to support 
      and defend the Constitution for the United States; some of the above
      have sworn to defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic. 
      For these, the additional charge of violation of their oath of
      office is brought.   
 
Fellow Yeomen,           

    You have been deceived and used, and the oath you or your young
soldier swore (to support and defend to Constitution---) has been the
means of betraya........ etc. (end of excerpt)

	For the complete text please write me: 
	John Dulaney jdulaney@best.com 
	or see my WEB PAGE (address below)

	To contact the author you may E-mail him at:
	--------------------------------------------
	Jerry Denham 76032.3653@compuserve.com
	He can out you together with your local John Birch Society where
you can actually LEARN the FACTS!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Thu Jul 11 10:18:22 PDT 1996
Article: 49671 of alt.revisionism
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: Re: INTERNET SHOCKER from GORE --->>
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tom moran (tm@pacificnet.net) wrote:
: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney) wrote:

: >	IF GORE is FOR the INTERNET we MUST realize the TERRIBLE TRUTH:
	deletia----
: >	---------------------------------------------------------------
: >	 regrettable final option". Then D-Calif. Tom Lantos-types can use
: >	 Tom's favorite word "terminate" on us all.)
: >
: 	 Another 1 in 10,000 who is aware and willing to speak out.

: 	  Thank you for this post.
:                                                Tom Moran	

	My sincere pleasure. -	John
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"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Thu Jul 11 11:13:51 PDT 1996
Article: 255337 of alt.politics.clinton
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: HIGH TREASON! FACTS/NAMES & PLAN to ACT!
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	HIGH TREASON! LET US ACCUSE TOGETHER! STAND UP! BE COUNTED!
	-----------------------------------------------------------
	The points of the short excerpt that follows have been ridiculed
	and demonized for decades by the MEDIA. 
	
	Perhaps today some who read this will believe it can actually be
	true. Our futures depend on this belief. Your belief.

	EXCERPTS FROM: 

	A SPEECH GIVEN: 9-17-94: VFW MEMORIAL, MARTINEZ, CA. and
                        9-20-94: SANTA ROSA LIONS CLUB, 9-20-94
   
	  [Please request the full text - jdulaney@best.com 
	  this piece written by a Chapter Leader of the JBS, 
	  Jerry Denham in his and our continuing effort to
	  return our nation to Freedom and our Constitution.]
---------------------------------------------------------------------

   I intend to demonstrate and prove to you:
                          
    How a Conspiratorial Group, Masquerading as the United States
Government is and has been making WAR on the American people (including
Drug Warfare [all the while pretending to conduct a "War on Drugs"],
Psychological Warfare, Propaganda Warfare [examples of which are the
so-called War on Poverty, and President Ford's "Whip Inflation Now !"
campaign], Agitation and Provocation of Controlled Riots (the Los Angeles
riot of 1993, and the nationwide riots of the Sixties).  It (this group) 
has taken Direct Military Action (KAL007, Waco, Naples, Idaho, etc.) 
against the American people, and has, based on what we would call today a
"think tank" study [conducted by the Carnegie Endowment for International
Peace in 1910], purposely involved our Nation in a brutal century of
warfare, using war as a purposely-selected methodology, to radically
change our Nation, [meanwhile keeping us busy, diverting our attention],
in order that America might be merged into a world totalitarian
dictatorship under the group's control---their Fourth Reich,
    The New World Order. 
      
    This speech is an Appeal to God and my fellow Citizens of the
Sovereign California Republic (admitted to the Union September 9, 1850, by
the Congress of the United States, in compliance with Article IV) for
JUSTICE !  It is an inflammatory speech (I hope), consisting of the
presentation of evidence calling for indictment of the following named and
unnamed co-conspirators in a plot to commit High Treason against our
Republic, with malice aforethought, and intent to subvert the
Constitution, and to substitute the clearly inferior Charter of the
so-called "United Nations" as the Supreme Law of the Land (Article VI,
second paragraph):
    
    I accuse the following of this high crime:
    
         Wesley Fischel, Col. Ed Lansdale, McGeorge Bundy, Henry Kissinger,  
         John J. McCloy, Dwight David Eisenhower, George Marshall, Herbert
         Brownell, Edward Mandell House, Woodrow Wilson, Dean Acheson,
         George Shultz, Dick Cheney, Owen Lattimore, Alger Hiss, James
         Baker, John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, Richard Milhous Nixon, 
	 Herbert Hoover, Earl Warren, Robert Byrd, Mike Mansfield, Lyndon 
	 Baines Johnson, John Kerry, John McCain, Ann Mills Griffith, Brent   
         Scowcroft, Lawrence Eagleburger, Ford, Sheetz, Trowbridge,          
         George Prescott Bush, Ronald Wilson Reagan, James Earl Carter, 
	 Gerald Ford, Stephen Solarz, Thomas Dodd, Dean Rusk, Robert S. 
	 McNamara and Does #1 to #5,000,000, both living and dead,
         
      and require them to answer this charge of High Treason (Article II,
      Section 4; Article III, Section 3) against the States and the People. 
      Most, if not all, of the co-conspirators have sworn an oath to support 
      and defend the Constitution for the United States; some of the above
      have sworn to defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic. 
      For these, the additional charge of violation of their oath of
      office is brought.   
 
Fellow Yeomen,           

    You have been deceived and used, and the oath you or your young
soldier swore (to support and defend to Constitution---) has been the
means of betraya........ etc. (end of excerpt)

	For the complete text please write me: 
	John Dulaney jdulaney@best.com 
	or see my WEB PAGE (address below)

	To contact the author you may E-mail him at:
	--------------------------------------------
	Jerry Denham 76032.3653@compuserve.com
	He can out you together with your local John Birch Society where
you can actually LEARN the FACTS!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Thu Jul 11 12:21:13 PDT 1996
Article: 35819 of alt.politics.white-power
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Subject: HIGH TREASON! FACTS/NAMES & PLAN to ACT!
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	HIGH TREASON! LET US ACCUSE TOGETHER! STAND UP! BE COUNTED!
	-----------------------------------------------------------
	The points of the short excerpt that follows have been ridiculed
	and demonized for decades by the MEDIA. 
	
	Perhaps today some who read this will believe it can actually be
	true. Our futures depend on this belief. Your belief.

	EXCERPTS FROM: 

	A SPEECH GIVEN: 9-17-94: VFW MEMORIAL, MARTINEZ, CA. and
                        9-20-94: SANTA ROSA LIONS CLUB, 9-20-94
   
	  [Please request the full text - jdulaney@best.com 
	  this piece written by a Chapter Leader of the JBS, 
	  Jerry Denham in his and our continuing effort to
	  return our nation to Freedom and our Constitution.]
---------------------------------------------------------------------

   I intend to demonstrate and prove to you:
                          
    How a Conspiratorial Group, Masquerading as the United States
Government is and has been making WAR on the American people (including
Drug Warfare [all the while pretending to conduct a "War on Drugs"],
Psychological Warfare, Propaganda Warfare [examples of which are the
so-called War on Poverty, and President Ford's "Whip Inflation Now !"
campaign], Agitation and Provocation of Controlled Riots (the Los Angeles
riot of 1993, and the nationwide riots of the Sixties).  It (this group) 
has taken Direct Military Action (KAL007, Waco, Naples, Idaho, etc.) 
against the American people, and has, based on what we would call today a
"think tank" study [conducted by the Carnegie Endowment for International
Peace in 1910], purposely involved our Nation in a brutal century of
warfare, using war as a purposely-selected methodology, to radically
change our Nation, [meanwhile keeping us busy, diverting our attention],
in order that America might be merged into a world totalitarian
dictatorship under the group's control---their Fourth Reich,
    The New World Order. 
      
    This speech is an Appeal to God and my fellow Citizens of the
Sovereign California Republic (admitted to the Union September 9, 1850, by
the Congress of the United States, in compliance with Article IV) for
JUSTICE !  It is an inflammatory speech (I hope), consisting of the
presentation of evidence calling for indictment of the following named and
unnamed co-conspirators in a plot to commit High Treason against our
Republic, with malice aforethought, and intent to subvert the
Constitution, and to substitute the clearly inferior Charter of the
so-called "United Nations" as the Supreme Law of the Land (Article VI,
second paragraph):
    
    I accuse the following of this high crime:
    
         Wesley Fischel, Col. Ed Lansdale, McGeorge Bundy, Henry Kissinger,  
         John J. McCloy, Dwight David Eisenhower, George Marshall, Herbert
         Brownell, Edward Mandell House, Woodrow Wilson, Dean Acheson,
         George Shultz, Dick Cheney, Owen Lattimore, Alger Hiss, James
         Baker, John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, Richard Milhous Nixon, 
	 Herbert Hoover, Earl Warren, Robert Byrd, Mike Mansfield, Lyndon 
	 Baines Johnson, John Kerry, John McCain, Ann Mills Griffith, Brent   
         Scowcroft, Lawrence Eagleburger, Ford, Sheetz, Trowbridge,          
         George Prescott Bush, Ronald Wilson Reagan, James Earl Carter, 
	 Gerald Ford, Stephen Solarz, Thomas Dodd, Dean Rusk, Robert S. 
	 McNamara and Does #1 to #5,000,000, both living and dead,
         
      and require them to answer this charge of High Treason (Article II,
      Section 4; Article III, Section 3) against the States and the People. 
      Most, if not all, of the co-conspirators have sworn an oath to support 
      and defend the Constitution for the United States; some of the above
      have sworn to defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic. 
      For these, the additional charge of violation of their oath of
      office is brought.   
 
Fellow Yeomen,           

    You have been deceived and used, and the oath you or your young
soldier swore (to support and defend to Constitution---) has been the
means of betraya........ etc. (end of excerpt)

	For the complete text please write me: 
	John Dulaney jdulaney@best.com 
	or see my WEB PAGE (address below)

	To contact the author you may E-mail him at:
	--------------------------------------------
	Jerry Denham 76032.3653@compuserve.com
	He can out you together with your local John Birch Society where
you can actually LEARN the FACTS!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



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Gerry Rough (gerryr@skyenet.net) wrote:  : I just read an interesting
something, written from someone at the John Birch Society. : Now there's a
new one; a Bircher with credibility! I have a good question for Birchers.
: Would someone care to explain to me why the John Birch Society and some
of its members : were predicting the take-over of the U.S. in 1972? Gee,
fellas, how come it didn't : happen the way you said it would? Was it not
your own member, David Gumaer, who said: 

:  "In the spring of 1972, rioting will start 'spontaneously' on the campuses and in the 
: ghettoes. Communications will be cut off and the stock market will go broke. And the 
: people will call for 'law and order in the streets' and marshal law will be 
: declared...and we will have a dictatorship."
	
: Jeepers, which New World Order are we supposed to believe in? Today's version, or 
: yesterday's version?

	I can't be held accountable for what someone else said but his
words of concern then prove VERY valid today, now don't they?
	John
							   
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
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"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


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HARRIET THE SPY - (Or: "It Takes a 'Government Agent' Nanny to replace
---------------		Inept Parents")  

A Political Review by John Dulaney --

	More PROOF that NOTHING that comes out of Hollywood isn't tainted
by intense and highly focused Communist/Totalitarian Propaganda, both
insidious in it's subtlety and brazen in it's ever bolder themes but
ALWAYS determined to undermine our American way of life, Christianity and
Family Values.

HARRIET THE SPY (aka "IT TAKES A VILLAGE")
	from Nickelodeon Films is the straightforward story of how the
yuppie parents of a 9 year old are ill equipped at child rearing and how a
non-family member is needed to supplant this wanting. (It isn't explained
who is paying the non-family facilitator [called nanny] is this film.)

	Utterly lacking in parental skills the yuppie mother and father's
daughter has always loved and trusted her nanny (a sullen, dour-faced but
supremely wise woman) far more than her inept parents. 
	After the nanny decides to leave the girl the daughter gets into
trouble with her friends at school.
	Once again her parents are useless at guiding her through a
typical, petty, matter and she longs for her true "mother", the nanny.
	At the final moment of frustration the nanny appears as if by magic
and what is her advice?
	"You must do two things and you won't like either one. Apologize
and lie."
	Her "wise" advise is that it's ok to lie if SHE, the nanny, says
it's ok.
	Her parents may instruct to the contrary but if the nanny
(government agent in "It Takes a Village") says "Lie!" it is OK to Lie!
	The carefully developed and skillfully directed film theme even
appealed to me. It had me won over 100%!
	Those parents were hardly worth having around as engines of income
earnings. They SHOULD have been excluded from the rearing of their own
child I felt as I eagerly embraced the plot.
	The nanny SHOULD have had full control over the girl and I would
have signed the papers right then and there....
	...but in the corridor exiting to the lobby I realized I'd BEEN
HAD! The theatre was packed and now every parent and child had been
suckered into the idea that parents don't have sufficient parenting skills
to raise their own children and that it "Takes a Village" to do it.

	After the film I had to tell our son (7) that he should NEVER let
anyone besides he and his wife get involved with their children when time
comes. And advanced concept for a 7 year old, you say?
	But what was the concept we had all JUST WITNESSED?

	He told me "not all parents have been taught enough in school to
know how to raise kids!"
	And he goes to a Christian-Conservative Private school and is
allowed to watch only 6 hrs. of TV a week!
	BUT: Much of that TV is Nickelodeon!
	I urged him, carefully, to tell me where he had heard such a
phrase.
	It was worded in a non-Chris phrasing as if memorized.
	He refused to tell me where he'd heard it though I suggested
school or TV.
	That's it for TV.
	Older movies, video games, computer OK.
	No MORE TV!
	Movies?
	Since all films for children are rated PG or PG-13 and VERY few
are G (and those that are are loaded with violence, sex, and Anti-
American, Anti-Conservative propaganda - to wit: "The Big Green" has
a little boy explain why his Texas town is in such a bad financial
condition: "It was doing ok before Reaganomics!" - "THE ROCK"'s Bad-Guys
call themselves "Patriots" and on and on....) that leaves about ZERO
films to take our 2 and 7 year olds to.
	We already boycott " Hunchback." This leaves pre-1970 films,
maybe.
	GET ME OUT OF THIS REALITY!
	John
-----------------------------------------------------------
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http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



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HARRIET THE SPY - (Or: "It Takes a 'Government Agent' Nanny to replace
---------------		Inept Parents")  

A Political Review by John Dulaney --

	More PROOF that NOTHING that comes out of Hollywood isn't tainted
by intense and highly focused Communist/Totalitarian Propaganda, both
insidious in it's subtlety and brazen in it's ever bolder themes but
ALWAYS determined to undermine our American way of life, Christianity and
Family Values.

HARRIET THE SPY (aka "IT TAKES A VILLAGE")
	from Nickelodeon Films is the straightforward story of how the
yuppie parents of a 9 year old are ill equipped at child rearing and how a
non-family member is needed to supplant this wanting. (It isn't explained
who is paying the non-family facilitator [called nanny] is this film.)

	Utterly lacking in parental skills the yuppie mother and father's
daughter has always loved and trusted her nanny (a sullen, dour-faced but
supremely wise woman) far more than her inept parents. 
	After the nanny decides to leave the girl the daughter gets into
trouble with her friends at school.
	Once again her parents are useless at guiding her through a
typical, petty, matter and she longs for her true "mother", the nanny.
	At the final moment of frustration the nanny appears as if by magic
and what is her advice?
	"You must do two things and you won't like either one. Apologize
and lie."
	Her "wise" advise is that it's ok to lie if SHE, the nanny, says
it's ok.
	Her parents may instruct to the contrary but if the nanny
(government agent in "It Takes a Village") says "Lie!" it is OK to Lie!
	The carefully developed and skillfully directed film theme even
appealed to me. It had me won over 100%!
	Those parents were hardly worth having around as engines of income
earnings. They SHOULD have been excluded from the rearing of their own
child I felt as I eagerly embraced the plot.
	The nanny SHOULD have had full control over the girl and I would
have signed the papers right then and there....
	...but in the corridor exiting to the lobby I realized I'd BEEN
HAD! The theatre was packed and now every parent and child had been
suckered into the idea that parents don't have sufficient parenting skills
to raise their own children and that it "Takes a Village" to do it.

	After the film I had to tell our son (7) that he should NEVER let
anyone besides he and his wife get involved with their children when time
comes. And advanced concept for a 7 year old, you say?
	But what was the concept we had all JUST WITNESSED?

	He told me "not all parents have been taught enough in school to
know how to raise kids!"
	And he goes to a Christian-Conservative Private school and is
allowed to watch only 6 hrs. of TV a week!
	BUT: Much of that TV is Nickelodeon!
	I urged him, carefully, to tell me where he had heard such a
phrase.
	It was worded in a non-Chris phrasing as if memorized.
	He refused to tell me where he'd heard it though I suggested
school or TV.
	That's it for TV.
	Older movies, video games, computer OK.
	No MORE TV!
	Movies?
	Since all films for children are rated PG or PG-13 and VERY few
are G (and those that are are loaded with violence, sex, and Anti-
American, Anti-Conservative propaganda - to wit: "The Big Green" has
a little boy explain why his Texas town is in such a bad financial
condition: "It was doing ok before Reaganomics!" - "THE ROCK"'s Bad-Guys
call themselves "Patriots" and on and on....) that leaves about ZERO
films to take our 2 and 7 year olds to.
	We already boycott " Hunchback." This leaves pre-1970 films,
maybe.
	GET ME OUT OF THIS REALITY!
	John
-----------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



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Milt Shook (mshook@U.Arizona.EDU) wrote:
: On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, S Ray wrote:

: :Bill Carver wrote:
: :> 
: :> Michael L. Coburn wrote:
: :> >
: :> >         If I don't vote for Clinton, there is a possibility that some
: :> > Republican will be in the Whitehouse.  Unfortunately, that is the way it
: :> > is.  Given the choice between a conservative, religious, business, and
: :> > rich bitch supporting moron and Clinton, it is my opinion that Clinton is
: :> > the lesser of evils.  IMHO losing my liberty to government is less
: :> > dangerous than losing it to large corporations and the super-rich
: :> > individuals.

	You are losing your liberty, money, life and country to BOTH of
them!
	Government has long ago been 1,000% BOUGHT OFF by the 2,000
richest cats who meet in secret every year.
	Keep reading.
	Try this:
							   
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http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


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Milt Shook (mshook@U.Arizona.EDU) wrote:
: On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, S Ray wrote:

: :Bill Carver wrote:
: :> 
: :> Michael L. Coburn wrote:
: :> >
: :> >         If I don't vote for Clinton, there is a possibility that some
: :> > Republican will be in the Whitehouse.  Unfortunately, that is the way it
: :> > is.  Given the choice between a conservative, religious, business, and
: :> > rich bitch supporting moron and Clinton, it is my opinion that Clinton is
: :> > the lesser of evils.  IMHO losing my liberty to government is less
: :> > dangerous than losing it to large corporations and the super-rich
: :> > individuals.

	You are losing your liberty, money, life and country to BOTH of
them!
	Government has long ago been 1,000% BOUGHT OFF by the 2,000
richest cats who meet in secret every year.
	Keep reading.
	Try this:
							   
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sun Jul 14 10:55:21 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: "HARRIET" needs a Village - A Film Revue
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HARRIET THE SPY - (Or: "It Takes a 'Government Agent' Nanny to replace
---------------		Inept Parents")  

A Political Review by John Dulaney --

	More PROOF that NOTHING that comes out of Hollywood isn't tainted
by intense and highly focused Communist/Totalitarian Propaganda, both
insidious in it's subtlety and brazen in it's ever bolder themes but
ALWAYS determined to undermine our American way of life, Christianity and
Family Values.

HARRIET THE SPY (aka "IT TAKES A VILLAGE")
	from Nickelodeon Films is the straightforward story of how the
yuppie parents of a 9 year old are ill equipped at child rearing and how a
non-family member is needed to supplant this wanting. (It isn't explained
who is paying the non-family facilitator [called nanny] is this film.)

	Utterly lacking in parental skills the yuppie mother and father's
daughter has always loved and trusted her nanny (a sullen, dour-faced but
supremely wise woman) far more than her inept parents. 
	After the nanny decides to leave the girl the daughter gets into
trouble with her friends at school.
	Once again her parents are useless at guiding her through a
typical, petty, matter and she longs for her true "mother", the nanny.
	At the final moment of frustration the nanny appears as if by magic
and what is her advice?
	"You must do two things and you won't like either one. Apologize
and lie."
	Her "wise" advise is that it's ok to lie if SHE, the nanny, says
it's ok.
	Her parents may instruct to the contrary but if the nanny
(government agent in "It Takes a Village") says "Lie!" it is OK to Lie!
	The carefully developed and skillfully directed film theme even
appealed to me. It had me won over 100%!
	Those parents were hardly worth having around as engines of income
earnings. They SHOULD have been excluded from the rearing of their own
child I felt as I eagerly embraced the plot.
	The nanny SHOULD have had full control over the girl and I would
have signed the papers right then and there....
	...but in the corridor exiting to the lobby I realized I'd BEEN
HAD! The theatre was packed and now every parent and child had been
suckered into the idea that parents don't have sufficient parenting skills
to raise their own children and that it "Takes a Village" to do it.

	After the film I had to tell our son (7) that he should NEVER let
anyone besides he and his wife get involved with their children when time
comes. And advanced concept for a 7 year old, you say?
	But what was the concept we had all JUST WITNESSED?

	He told me "not all parents have been taught enough in school to
know how to raise kids!"
	And he goes to a Christian-Conservative Private school and is
allowed to watch only 6 hrs. of TV a week!
	BUT: Much of that TV is Nickelodeon!
	I urged him, carefully, to tell me where he had heard such a
phrase.
	It was worded in a non-Chris phrasing as if memorized.
	He refused to tell me where he'd heard it though I suggested
school or TV.
	That's it for TV.
	Older movies, video games, computer OK.
	No MORE TV!
	Movies?
	Since all films for children are rated PG or PG-13 and VERY few
are G (and those that are are loaded with violence, sex, and Anti-
American, Anti-Conservative propaganda - to wit: "The Big Green" has
a little boy explain why his Texas town is in such a bad financial
condition: "It was doing ok before Reaganomics!" - "THE ROCK"'s Bad-Guys
call themselves "Patriots" and on and on....) that leaves about ZERO
films to take our 2 and 7 year olds to.
	We already boycott " Hunchback." This leaves pre-1970 films,
maybe.
	GET ME OUT OF THIS REALITY!
	John
-----------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



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HARRIET THE SPY - (Or: "It Takes a 'Government Agent' Nanny to replace
---------------		Inept Parents")  

A Political Review by John Dulaney --

	More PROOF that NOTHING that comes out of Hollywood isn't tainted
by intense and highly focused Communist/Totalitarian Propaganda, both
insidious in it's subtlety and brazen in it's ever bolder themes but
ALWAYS determined to undermine our American way of life, Christianity and
Family Values.

HARRIET THE SPY (aka "IT TAKES A VILLAGE")
	from Nickelodeon Films is the straightforward story of how the
yuppie parents of a 9 year old are ill equipped at child rearing and how a
non-family member is needed to supplant this wanting. (It isn't explained
who is paying the non-family facilitator [called nanny] is this film.)

	Utterly lacking in parental skills the yuppie mother and father's
daughter has always loved and trusted her nanny (a sullen, dour-faced but
supremely wise woman) far more than her inept parents. 
	After the nanny decides to leave the girl the daughter gets into
trouble with her friends at school.
	Once again her parents are useless at guiding her through a
typical, petty, matter and she longs for her true "mother", the nanny.
	At the final moment of frustration the nanny appears as if by magic
and what is her advice?
	"You must do two things and you won't like either one. Apologize
and lie."
	Her "wise" advise is that it's ok to lie if SHE, the nanny, says
it's ok.
	Her parents may instruct to the contrary but if the nanny
(government agent in "It Takes a Village") says "Lie!" it is OK to Lie!
	The carefully developed and skillfully directed film theme even
appealed to me. It had me won over 100%!
	Those parents were hardly worth having around as engines of income
earnings. They SHOULD have been excluded from the rearing of their own
child I felt as I eagerly embraced the plot.
	The nanny SHOULD have had full control over the girl and I would
have signed the papers right then and there....
	...but in the corridor exiting to the lobby I realized I'd BEEN
HAD! The theatre was packed and now every parent and child had been
suckered into the idea that parents don't have sufficient parenting skills
to raise their own children and that it "Takes a Village" to do it.

	After the film I had to tell our son (7) that he should NEVER let
anyone besides he and his wife get involved with their children when time
comes. And advanced concept for a 7 year old, you say?
	But what was the concept we had all JUST WITNESSED?

	He told me "not all parents have been taught enough in school to
know how to raise kids!"
	And he goes to a Christian-Conservative Private school and is
allowed to watch only 6 hrs. of TV a week!
	BUT: Much of that TV is Nickelodeon!
	I urged him, carefully, to tell me where he had heard such a
phrase.
	It was worded in a non-Chris phrasing as if memorized.
	He refused to tell me where he'd heard it though I suggested
school or TV.
	That's it for TV.
	Older movies, video games, computer OK.
	No MORE TV!
	Movies?
	Since all films for children are rated PG or PG-13 and VERY few
are G (and those that are are loaded with violence, sex, and Anti-
American, Anti-Conservative propaganda - to wit: "The Big Green" has
a little boy explain why his Texas town is in such a bad financial
condition: "It was doing ok before Reaganomics!" - "THE ROCK"'s Bad-Guys
call themselves "Patriots" and on and on....) that leaves about ZERO
films to take our 2 and 7 year olds to.
	We already boycott " Hunchback." This leaves pre-1970 films,
maybe.
	GET ME OUT OF THIS REALITY!
	John
-----------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



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Milt Shook (mshook@U.Arizona.EDU) wrote:
: On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, S Ray wrote:

: :Bill Carver wrote:
: :> 
: :> Michael L. Coburn wrote:
: :> >
: :> >         If I don't vote for Clinton, there is a possibility that some
: :> > Republican will be in the Whitehouse.  Unfortunately, that is the way it
: :> > is.  Given the choice between a conservative, religious, business, and
: :> > rich bitch supporting moron and Clinton, it is my opinion that Clinton is
: :> > the lesser of evils.  IMHO losing my liberty to government is less
: :> > dangerous than losing it to large corporations and the super-rich
: :> > individuals.

	You are losing your liberty, money, life and country to BOTH of
them!
	Government has long ago been 1,000% BOUGHT OFF by the 2,000
richest cats who meet in secret every year.
	Keep reading.
	Try this:
							   
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 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
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violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: "HARRIET" Needs a Village - Film Revue
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HARRIET THE SPY - (Or: "It Takes a 'Government Agent' Nanny to replace
---------------		Inept Parents")  

A Political Review by John Dulaney --

	More PROOF that NOTHING that comes out of Hollywood isn't tainted
by intense and highly focused Communist/Totalitarian Propaganda, both
insidious in it's subtlety and brazen in it's ever bolder themes but
ALWAYS determined to undermine our American way of life, Christianity and
Family Values.

HARRIET THE SPY (aka "IT TAKES A VILLAGE")
	from Nickelodeon Films is the straightforward story of how the
yuppie parents of a 9 year old are ill equipped at child rearing and how a
non-family member is needed to supplant this wanting. (It isn't explained
who is paying the non-family facilitator [called nanny] is this film.)

	Utterly lacking in parental skills the yuppie mother and father's
daughter has always loved and trusted her nanny (a sullen, dour-faced but
supremely wise woman) far more than her inept parents. 
	After the nanny decides to leave the girl the daughter gets into
trouble with her friends at school.
	Once again her parents are useless at guiding her through a
typical, petty, matter and she longs for her true "mother", the nanny.
	At the final moment of frustration the nanny appears as if by magic
and what is her advice?
	"You must do two things and you won't like either one. Apologize
and lie."
	Her "wise" advise is that it's ok to lie if SHE, the nanny, says
it's ok.
	Her parents may instruct to the contrary but if the nanny
(government agent in "It Takes a Village") says "Lie!" it is OK to Lie!
	The carefully developed and skillfully directed film theme even
appealed to me. It had me won over 100%!
	Those parents were hardly worth having around as engines of income
earnings. They SHOULD have been excluded from the rearing of their own
child I felt as I eagerly embraced the plot.
	The nanny SHOULD have had full control over the girl and I would
have signed the papers right then and there....
	...but in the corridor exiting to the lobby I realized I'd BEEN
HAD! The theatre was packed and now every parent and child had been
suckered into the idea that parents don't have sufficient parenting skills
to raise their own children and that it "Takes a Village" to do it.

	After the film I had to tell our son (7) that he should NEVER let
anyone besides he and his wife get involved with their children when time
comes. And advanced concept for a 7 year old, you say?
	But what was the concept we had all JUST WITNESSED?

	He told me "not all parents have been taught enough in school to
know how to raise kids!"
	And he goes to a Christian-Conservative Private school and is
allowed to watch only 6 hrs. of TV a week!
	BUT: Much of that TV is Nickelodeon!
	I urged him, carefully, to tell me where he had heard such a
phrase.
	It was worded in a non-Chris phrasing as if memorized.
	He refused to tell me where he'd heard it though I suggested
school or TV.
	That's it for TV.
	Older movies, video games, computer OK.
	No MORE TV!
	Movies?
	Since all films for children are rated PG or PG-13 and VERY few
are G (and those that are are loaded with violence, sex, and Anti-
American, Anti-Conservative propaganda - to wit: "The Big Green" has
a little boy explain why his Texas town is in such a bad financial
condition: "It was doing ok before Reaganomics!" - "THE ROCK"'s Bad-Guys
call themselves "Patriots" and on and on....) that leaves about ZERO
films to take our 2 and 7 year olds to.
	We already boycott " Hunchback." This leaves pre-1970 films,
maybe.
	GET ME OUT OF THIS REALITY!
	John
-----------------------------------------------------------
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http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: "HARRIET" needs a Village - A Film Revue
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HARRIET THE SPY - (Or: "It Takes a 'Government Agent' Nanny to replace
---------------		Inept Parents")  

A Political Review by John Dulaney --

	More PROOF that NOTHING that comes out of Hollywood isn't tainted
by intense and highly focused Communist/Totalitarian Propaganda, both
insidious in it's subtlety and brazen in it's ever bolder themes but
ALWAYS determined to undermine our American way of life, Christianity and
Family Values.

HARRIET THE SPY (aka "IT TAKES A VILLAGE")
	from Nickelodeon Films is the straightforward story of how the
yuppie parents of a 9 year old are ill equipped at child rearing and how a
non-family member is needed to supplant this wanting. (It isn't explained
who is paying the non-family facilitator [called nanny] is this film.)

	Utterly lacking in parental skills the yuppie mother and father's
daughter has always loved and trusted her nanny (a sullen, dour-faced but
supremely wise woman) far more than her inept parents. 
	After the nanny decides to leave the girl the daughter gets into
trouble with her friends at school.
	Once again her parents are useless at guiding her through a
typical, petty, matter and she longs for her true "mother", the nanny.
	At the final moment of frustration the nanny appears as if by magic
and what is her advice?
	"You must do two things and you won't like either one. Apologize
and lie."
	Her "wise" advise is that it's ok to lie if SHE, the nanny, says
it's ok.
	Her parents may instruct to the contrary but if the nanny
(government agent in "It Takes a Village") says "Lie!" it is OK to Lie!
	The carefully developed and skillfully directed film theme even
appealed to me. It had me won over 100%!
	Those parents were hardly worth having around as engines of income
earnings. They SHOULD have been excluded from the rearing of their own
child I felt as I eagerly embraced the plot.
	The nanny SHOULD have had full control over the girl and I would
have signed the papers right then and there....
	...but in the corridor exiting to the lobby I realized I'd BEEN
HAD! The theatre was packed and now every parent and child had been
suckered into the idea that parents don't have sufficient parenting skills
to raise their own children and that it "Takes a Village" to do it.

	After the film I had to tell our son (7) that he should NEVER let
anyone besides he and his wife get involved with their children when time
comes. And advanced concept for a 7 year old, you say?
	But what was the concept we had all JUST WITNESSED?

	He told me "not all parents have been taught enough in school to
know how to raise kids!"
	And he goes to a Christian-Conservative Private school and is
allowed to watch only 6 hrs. of TV a week!
	BUT: Much of that TV is Nickelodeon!
	I urged him, carefully, to tell me where he had heard such a
phrase.
	It was worded in a non-Chris phrasing as if memorized.
	He refused to tell me where he'd heard it though I suggested
school or TV.
	That's it for TV.
	Older movies, video games, computer OK.
	No MORE TV!
	Movies?
	Since all films for children are rated PG or PG-13 and VERY few
are G (and those that are are loaded with violence, sex, and Anti-
American, Anti-Conservative propaganda - to wit: "The Big Green" has
a little boy explain why his Texas town is in such a bad financial
condition: "It was doing ok before Reaganomics!" - "THE ROCK"'s Bad-Guys
call themselves "Patriots" and on and on....) that leaves about ZERO
films to take our 2 and 7 year olds to.
	We already boycott " Hunchback." This leaves pre-1970 films,
maybe.
	GET ME OUT OF THIS REALITY!
	John
-----------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



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	I am truly gratified that you are sticking to your guns about
Clinton.
	But it will be a shame if you stop posting after Nov.
	John

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"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
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					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


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	Ok, here:
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    	The truth about Reagan's Economic Era (according to the Democrat's
own statistics): 

LIBERALS=DEMOCRATS=SOCIALISTS=COMMUNISTS=BUMS=PERVERTS=ABOMINATIONS be
			     FORWARNED! 
			     ~~~~~~~~~~
	   The following is a bitter pill to swallow. You 
	   may choke to death on it. Read at your peril!
	   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

			   The 1980's Test

This article originally appeared in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
on November 1, 1994.  It was written by Ralph R. Reiland, an associate
professor of economics at Robert Morris College in Pittsburgh.

-(All statistics taken from the US DEPARTMENT OF LABOR and CENSUS BUREAU.)-

The 1980's Test Regarding the 1980's, answer True or False to the
following statements: 

>From  1982 to 1989, 19 million net new jobs were created, two-thirds of
them high- or middle-paying, resulting in the lowest unemployment rate in
16 years.  The economic growth that flowed from the Reagan tax cuts
increased federal tax revenues in the 1980s by $1.1 trillion.  These
additional federal tax revenues contributed to the reduction of the
federal deficit from 6.3% of gross domestic product in 1983 to 2.9% in
1989.  

	Presidents Kennedy and Reagan both enacted supply-side tax cuts on
top income earners and job creators, and produced the two longest economic
expansions in American history.  
	The Reagan tax cuts trickled down to produce a 76% jump in new
business investment in real (adjusted for inflation) dollars in the 1980s
and tripled the rate of productivity growth.  Real per capita after-tax
income rose by 19% in the 1980s, nearly double the rate of the 1970s. 
Real family income increased every year from 1983 through 1990 in every
income group (from the poorest fifth of households to the richest fifth),
while median family income fell by 1.9% in 1993.  
	The real income of the poorest fifth of American families
increased by 12% in the 1980s, reversing their 17% slide in real income
between 1979 and 1983. Eighty-six percent of the tax filers of the poorest
fifth of families in 1980 moved out of that bottom quintile by 1988 (16%
moved all the way to the top fifth of income earners).  Real median income
increased 5% between 1982 and 1988 for those who started in the top fifth
on income earners, and increased 77% for those who started in the bottom
fifth.  
	Real family income declined each year from 1979 until 1982 and
declined each year since 1991---the Reagan years, sandwiched between the
two periods of shrinking income, produced a real increase of $4,877 in
median family annual real income.  Since 1988, the typical American
household has lost $2,344 in real annual income, and the degree of income
inequality is now at a post-World War II high.  
	After growing nationwide by 7 million people during the 1970s, the
poverty population declined by 4 million during the Reagan years; Poverty
in the '90s is on the rise again with over a million Americans falling
into poverty in 1993.  
	The top income tax rate was reduced from 70% to 28% in the 1980s,
but the top 5 percent of all earners paid more, increasing their share of
all federal income taxes paid from 36% in 1980 to 43% in 1990.  
	In the 1980s, the percentage of African-American families earning
more than 50,000 in real dollars doubled from 7% to 14%, the unemployment
rate for black teenagers fell by 21% and black employment in professional
and managerial jobs expanded by one-third.  After declining 10% between
1978 and 1982, the real median income of black families increased by 17%
between 1982 and 1989.  
	The median weekly earnings of female workers grew 8% faster than
male earnings in the 1980s, and women entrepreneurs ended the decade
employing more people than all of the Fortune 500 companies combined. 

NOTE: All of the above statements are TRUE.  All information is based 
on Labor Department and Census Bureau studies under Democratic control.
Those missing more than 12 questions are eligible for Rhodes 
Scholarship assistance.

http://www.eskimo.com/~jeremyps/" 
http://www.eskimo.com/~jeremyps/feedback.html"
This collection of pages Copyright 1995 Jeremy Schertzinger

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"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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	Many of us in the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY will be voting for Clinton
and other Democrats. 
	Why?
	To get this civil war started and OVER WITH all the faster!
	Otherwise they'll simply slow down the machinery, take another 100
years and That...will be That!
	No one in our history has ever served the cause of Truth and
Liberty as well as Mr. and Mrs. Bill Clinton and Gang.
------------------------------------------------------- John -----------	
"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil".
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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	Many of us in the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY will be voting for Clinton
and other Democrats. 
	Why?
	To get this civil war started and OVER WITH all the faster!
	Otherwise they'll simply slow down the machinery, take another 100
years and That...will be That!
	No one in our history has ever served the cause of Truth and
Liberty as well as Mr. and Mrs. Bill Clinton and Gang.
------------------------------------------------------- John -----------	
"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil".
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


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	Many of us in the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY will be voting for Clinton
and other Democrats. 
	Why?
	To get this civil war started and OVER WITH all the faster!
	Otherwise they'll simply slow down the machinery, take another 100
years and That...will be That!
	No one in our history has ever served the cause of Truth and
Liberty as well as Mr. and Mrs. Bill Clinton and Gang.
------------------------------------------------------- John -----------	
"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil".
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


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Article: 53737 of alt.revisionism
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: VOTES RIGGED since 1971: PROOF!!!!
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		"VOTE SCAM: THE STEALING OF AMERICA"
		------------------------------------
		by Jim Collier

	This book PROVES we have long ago been living in a ONE WORLD
GOVERNMENT.
	If our votes mattered it would be "an end of conservative talk
radio" as all issues would be resolved once we got the corrupt One
Worlders out.

	The author says PAT BUCHANAN WON!
			-----------------
	
	The sheeple Must AWAKE!

	1-800-888-9999 for Jim's book ($10) and/or tape ($20 - $30 for
both).
	Barnes and Noble refuses to carry the book but due to public
demand some individual store owners are ordering it.
	You can get it from the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY as well.

	PAPER BALLOTS ONLY SOLUTION!
	----------------------------
	
	Precinct Captains TAKE our votes HOME!
	Since 1971 our votes have gone through controlled computers with
NO way of independent verification of validity.
		
	To get Jim on your radio or other venue he asks only air fair and
hotel cost. Call his publisher VICTORIA HOUSE PRESS 1-212-809-9090 to get
him. Jim Harder's radio show was threatened with massive suits if they had
him on again, no media will review or list his book, his words, if untrue,
would amount to libel but no one will sue him directly.
	Precinct captains resign when confronted with evidence they have
defrauded voters but no media reports it.
							 --- John
							   
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sat Jul 27 12:40:55 PDT 1996
Article: 37323 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: VOTES RIGGED since 1971: PROOF!!!!
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		"VOTE SCAM: THE STEALING OF AMERICA"
		------------------------------------
		by Jim Collier

	This book PROVES we have long ago been living in a ONE WORLD
GOVERNMENT.
	If our votes mattered it would be "an end of conservative talk
radio" as all issues would be resolved once we got the corrupt One
Worlders out.

	The author says PAT BUCHANAN WON!
			-----------------
	
	The sheeple Must AWAKE!

	1-800-888-9999 for Jim's book ($10) and/or tape ($20 - $30 for
both).
	Barnes and Noble refuses to carry the book but due to public
demand some individual store owners are ordering it.
	You can get it from the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY as well.

	PAPER BALLOTS ONLY SOLUTION!
	----------------------------
	
	Precinct Captains TAKE our votes HOME!
	Since 1971 our votes have gone through controlled computers with
NO way of independent verification of validity.
		
	To get Jim on your radio or other venue he asks only air fair and
hotel cost. Call his publisher VICTORIA HOUSE PRESS 1-212-809-9090 to get
him. Jim Harder's radio show was threatened with massive suits if they had
him on again, no media will review or list his book, his words, if untrue,
would amount to libel but no one will sue him directly.
	Precinct captains resign when confronted with evidence they have
defrauded voters but no media reports it.
							 --- John
							   
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sat Jul 27 12:43:18 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: VOTES RIGGED since 1971: PROOF!!!!
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		"VOTE SCAM: THE STEALING OF AMERICA"
		------------------------------------
		by Jim Collier

	This book PROVES we have long ago been living in a ONE WORLD
GOVERNMENT.
	If our votes mattered it would be "an end of conservative talk
radio" as all issues would be resolved once we got the corrupt One
Worlders out.

	The author says PAT BUCHANAN WON!
			-----------------
	
	The sheeple Must AWAKE!

	1-800-888-9999 for Jim's book ($10) and/or tape ($20 - $30 for
both).
	Barnes and Noble refuses to carry the book but due to public
demand some individual store owners are ordering it.
	You can get it from the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY as well.

	PAPER BALLOTS ONLY SOLUTION!
	----------------------------
	
	Precinct Captains TAKE our votes HOME!
	Since 1971 our votes have gone through controlled computers with
NO way of independent verification of validity.
		
	To get Jim on your radio or other venue he asks only air fair and
hotel cost. Call his publisher VICTORIA HOUSE PRESS 1-212-809-9090 to get
him. Jim Harder's radio show was threatened with massive suits if they had
him on again, no media will review or list his book, his words, if untrue,
would amount to libel but no one will sue him directly.
	Precinct captains resign when confronted with evidence they have
defrauded voters but no media reports it.
							 --- John
							   
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sat Jul 27 13:00:57 PDT 1996
Article: 415851 of talk.politics.misc
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: VOTES RIGGED since 1971: PROOF!!!!
Date: 27 Jul 1996 15:11:07 GMT
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		"VOTE SCAM: THE STEALING OF AMERICA"
		------------------------------------
		by Jim Collier

	This book PROVES we have long ago been living in a ONE WORLD
GOVERNMENT.
	If our votes mattered it would be "an end of conservative talk
radio" as all issues would be resolved once we got the corrupt One
Worlders out.

	The author says PAT BUCHANAN WON!
			-----------------
	
	The sheeple Must AWAKE!

	1-800-888-9999 for Jim's book ($10) and/or tape ($20 - $30 for
both).
	Barnes and Noble refuses to carry the book but due to public
demand some individual store owners are ordering it.
	You can get it from the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY as well.

	PAPER BALLOTS ONLY SOLUTION!
	----------------------------
	
	Precinct Captains TAKE our votes HOME!
	Since 1971 our votes have gone through controlled computers with
NO way of independent verification of validity.
		
	To get Jim on your radio or other venue he asks only air fair and
hotel cost. Call his publisher VICTORIA HOUSE PRESS 1-212-809-9090 to get
him. Jim Harder's radio show was threatened with massive suits if they had
him on again, no media will review or list his book, his words, if untrue,
would amount to libel but no one will sue him directly.
	Precinct captains resign when confronted with evidence they have
defrauded voters but no media reports it.
							 --- John
							   
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sat Jul 27 13:11:52 PDT 1996
Article: 289507 of talk.politics.guns
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: VOTES RIGGED since 1971: PROOF!!!!
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		"VOTE SCAM: THE STEALING OF AMERICA"
		------------------------------------
		by Jim Collier

	This book PROVES we have long ago been living in a ONE WORLD
GOVERNMENT.
	If our votes mattered it would be "an end of conservative talk
radio" as all issues would be resolved once we got the corrupt One
Worlders out.

	The author says PAT BUCHANAN WON!
			-----------------
	
	The sheeple Must AWAKE!

	1-800-888-9999 for Jim's book ($10) and/or tape ($20 - $30 for
both).
	Barnes and Noble refuses to carry the book but due to public
demand some individual store owners are ordering it.
	You can get it from the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY as well.

	PAPER BALLOTS ONLY SOLUTION!
	----------------------------
	
	Precinct Captains TAKE our votes HOME!
	Since 1971 our votes have gone through controlled computers with
NO way of independent verification of validity.
		
	To get Jim on your radio or other venue he asks only air fair and
hotel cost. Call his publisher VICTORIA HOUSE PRESS 1-212-809-9090 to get
him. Jim Harder's radio show was threatened with massive suits if they had
him on again, no media will review or list his book, his words, if untrue,
would amount to libel but no one will sue him directly.
	Precinct captains resign when confronted with evidence they have
defrauded voters but no media reports it.
							 --- John
							   
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sun Jul 28 07:10:35 PDT 1996
Article: 53839 of alt.revisionism
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: "Constitution means nothing", John Glenn + more
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JOHN GLENN, "The American people want their representatives to do things
for them without regard for the Constitution."

RICHARD LAMM, "I am a One Worlder."

Throughout every aspect of American society, culture, military, education,
government etc. OUR LAWS MEAN NOTHING!
		----------------------

	WE LIVE IN A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT NOW AND HAVE DONE SO FOR
				DECADES!  ~~~
				--------
						 - John

For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

	


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sun Jul 28 07:38:12 PDT 1996
Article: 37343 of alt.politics.white-power
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Subject: "Constitution means nothing", John Glenn + more
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JOHN GLENN, "The American people want their representatives to do things
for them without regard for the Constitution."

RICHARD LAMM, "I am a One Worlder."

Throughout every aspect of American society, culture, military, education,
government etc. OUR LAWS MEAN NOTHING!
		----------------------

	WE LIVE IN A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT NOW AND HAVE DONE SO FOR
				DECADES!  ~~~
				--------
						 - John

For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

	


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sun Jul 28 07:54:26 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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JOHN GLENN, "The American people want their representatives to do things
for them without regard for the Constitution."

RICHARD LAMM, "I am a One Worlder."

Throughout every aspect of American society, culture, military, education,
government etc. OUR LAWS MEAN NOTHING!
		----------------------

	WE LIVE IN A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT NOW AND HAVE DONE SO FOR
				DECADES!  ~~~
				--------
						 - John

For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

	


From jdulaney@nntp1.best.com Sun Jul 28 08:01:28 PDT 1996
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JOHN GLENN, "The American people want their representatives to do things
for them without regard for the Constitution."

RICHARD LAMM, "I am a One Worlder."

Throughout every aspect of American society, culture, military, education,
government etc. OUR LAWS MEAN NOTHING!
		----------------------

	WE LIVE IN A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT NOW AND HAVE DONE SO FOR
				DECADES!  ~~~
				--------
						 - John

For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

	


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		"VOTE SCAM: THE STEALING OF AMERICA"
		------------------------------------
		by Jim Collier

	This book PROVES we have long ago been living in a ONE WORLD
GOVERNMENT.
	If our votes mattered it would be "an end of conservative talk
radio" as all issues would be resolved once we got the corrupt One
Worlders out.

	The author says PAT BUCHANAN WON!
			-----------------
	
	The sheeple Must AWAKE!

	1-800-888-9999 for Jim's book ($10) and/or tape ($20 - $30 for
both).
	Barnes and Noble refuses to carry the book but due to public
demand some individual store owners are ordering it.
	You can get it from the JOHN BIRCH SOCIETY as well.

	PAPER BALLOTS ONLY SOLUTION!
	----------------------------
	
	Precinct Captains TAKE our votes HOME!
	Since 1971 our votes have gone through controlled computers with
NO way of independent verification of validity.
		
	To get Jim on your radio or other venue he asks only air fair and
hotel cost. Call his publisher VICTORIA HOUSE PRESS 1-212-809-9090 to get
him. Jim Harder's radio show was threatened with massive suits if they had
him on again, no media will review or list his book, his words, if untrue,
would amount to libel but no one will sue him directly.
	Precinct captains resign when confronted with evidence they have
defrauded voters but no media reports it.
							 --- John
							   
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sun Jul 28 08:52:50 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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JOHN GLENN, "The American people want their representatives to do things
for them without regard for the Constitution."

RICHARD LAMM, "I am a One Worlder."

Throughout every aspect of American society, culture, military, education,
government etc. OUR LAWS MEAN NOTHING!
		----------------------

	WE LIVE IN A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT NOW AND HAVE DONE SO FOR
				DECADES!  ~~~
				--------
						 - John

For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

	


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sun Jul 28 12:40:56 PDT 1996
Article: 53977 of alt.revisionism
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Subject: PHENOMENON Reviewed Correctly-->>
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PHENOMENON with "Mr. Scientology" himself John Travolta

	....is an intense, brazen and non-stop proselytizing EARTH-TREE
WORSHIP film in the continuing and everlasting series of films from
Hollywood in it's universal methodology to pervert humankind from worship
of any God that may have writings suggesting what morality, freedom,
independence and right and wrong are. 

	Obeying Marx's contention that Religion is the Opium of the people
and is a threat to Communism the One Worlder Totalitarians (OTW) target
society daily via all mass media attempting to convert/pervert us from
worship of a God that can protect us by righteousness to a silent god,
Naturalism (the worship and glorification of nature to the complete
exclusion of all supernatural and spiritual elements). 

	In the OWT dream they recognize that the masses must worship
something so they foist on us Mother Earth as she has no admonishments
about our behavior, teaches us nothing about why it is that our public
schools are brainwashing caldrons producing adults so ignorant they
actually believe they Know Something even though few can read in any
language.

THE DEVICE:
	John Travolta is struct by a bolt of light and suddenly gains so
much intelligence and insight he is sensitive to pre-earthquake ultra low
frequencies, can ("working in cooperation with nature") make objects move
by telekinesis and discovers that God is only some leaves (Nature).

	The audience comes out willing to give up Yahweh, Buddha, Jesus
Christ et al in exchange for a tree.

	Not one TV show, advert, movie, radio program, magazine or book
(but for a few), not a single statement by our vote-fraud elected repre-
sentatives in office is without the constant and unremitting message:

	"Marxism and the Glory of the Coming Communist Utopia is our
only hope."

	When car and home values start sinking I will take my family from
this country.
					Request my reviews of THE ROCK and
					HARRIET THE SPY. - John
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sun Jul 28 12:56:13 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: "Constitution means nothing", John Glenn + more
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JOHN GLENN, "The American people want their representatives to do things
for them without regard for the Constitution."

RICHARD LAMM, "I am a One Worlder."

Throughout every aspect of American society, culture, military, education,
government etc. OUR LAWS MEAN NOTHING!
		----------------------

	WE LIVE IN A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT NOW AND HAVE DONE SO FOR
				DECADES!  ~~~
				--------
						 - John

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 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer

	


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sun Jul 28 12:56:14 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: PHENOMENON Reviewed Correctly-->>
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PHENOMENON with "Mr. Scientology" himself John Travolta

	....is an intense, brazen and non-stop proselytizing EARTH-TREE
WORSHIP film in the continuing and everlasting series of films from
Hollywood in it's universal methodology to pervert humankind from worship
of any God that may have writings suggesting what morality, freedom,
independence and right and wrong are. 

	Obeying Marx's contention that Religion is the Opium of the people
and is a threat to Communism the One Worlder Totalitarians (OTW) target
society daily via all mass media attempting to convert/pervert us from
worship of a God that can protect us by righteousness to a silent god,
Naturalism (the worship and glorification of nature to the complete
exclusion of all supernatural and spiritual elements). 

	In the OWT dream they recognize that the masses must worship
something so they foist on us Mother Earth as she has no admonishments
about our behavior, teaches us nothing about why it is that our public
schools are brainwashing caldrons producing adults so ignorant they
actually believe they Know Something even though few can read in any
language.

THE DEVICE:
	John Travolta is struct by a bolt of light and suddenly gains so
much intelligence and insight he is sensitive to pre-earthquake ultra low
frequencies, can ("working in cooperation with nature") make objects move
by telekinesis and discovers that God is only some leaves (Nature).

	The audience comes out willing to give up Yahweh, Buddha, Jesus
Christ et al in exchange for a tree.

	Not one TV show, advert, movie, radio program, magazine or book
(but for a few), not a single statement by our vote-fraud elected repre-
sentatives in office is without the constant and unremitting message:

	"Marxism and the Glory of the Coming Communist Utopia is our
only hope."

	When car and home values start sinking I will take my family from
this country.
					Request my reviews of THE ROCK and
					HARRIET THE SPY. - John
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sun Jul 28 16:56:21 PDT 1996
Article: 37450 of alt.politics.white-power
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: PHENOMENON Reviewed Correctly-->>
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PHENOMENON with "Mr. Scientology" himself John Travolta

	....is an intense, brazen and non-stop proselytizing EARTH-TREE
WORSHIP film in the continuing and everlasting series of films from
Hollywood in it's universal methodology to pervert humankind from worship
of any God that may have writings suggesting what morality, freedom,
independence and right and wrong are. 

	Obeying Marx's contention that Religion is the Opium of the people
and is a threat to Communism the One Worlder Totalitarians (OTW) target
society daily via all mass media attempting to convert/pervert us from
worship of a God that can protect us by righteousness to a silent god,
Naturalism (the worship and glorification of nature to the complete
exclusion of all supernatural and spiritual elements). 

	In the OWT dream they recognize that the masses must worship
something so they foist on us Mother Earth as she has no admonishments
about our behavior, teaches us nothing about why it is that our public
schools are brainwashing caldrons producing adults so ignorant they
actually believe they Know Something even though few can read in any
language.

THE DEVICE:
	John Travolta is struct by a bolt of light and suddenly gains so
much intelligence and insight he is sensitive to pre-earthquake ultra low
frequencies, can ("working in cooperation with nature") make objects move
by telekinesis and discovers that God is only some leaves (Nature).

	The audience comes out willing to give up Yahweh, Buddha, Jesus
Christ et al in exchange for a tree.

	Not one TV show, advert, movie, radio program, magazine or book
(but for a few), not a single statement by our vote-fraud elected repre-
sentatives in office is without the constant and unremitting message:

	"Marxism and the Glory of the Coming Communist Utopia is our
only hope."

	When car and home values start sinking I will take my family from
this country.
					Request my reviews of THE ROCK and
					HARRIET THE SPY. - John
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Sun Jul 28 16:58:06 PDT 1996
Article: 71857 of alt.conspiracy
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: PHENOMENON Reviewed Correctly-->>
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PHENOMENON with "Mr. Scientology" himself John Travolta

	....is an intense, brazen and non-stop proselytizing EARTH-TREE
WORSHIP film in the continuing and everlasting series of films from
Hollywood in it's universal methodology to pervert humankind from worship
of any God that may have writings suggesting what morality, freedom,
independence and right and wrong are. 

	Obeying Marx's contention that Religion is the Opium of the people
and is a threat to Communism the One Worlder Totalitarians (OTW) target
society daily via all mass media attempting to convert/pervert us from
worship of a God that can protect us by righteousness to a silent god,
Naturalism (the worship and glorification of nature to the complete
exclusion of all supernatural and spiritual elements). 

	In the OWT dream they recognize that the masses must worship
something so they foist on us Mother Earth as she has no admonishments
about our behavior, teaches us nothing about why it is that our public
schools are brainwashing caldrons producing adults so ignorant they
actually believe they Know Something even though few can read in any
language.

THE DEVICE:
	John Travolta is struct by a bolt of light and suddenly gains so
much intelligence and insight he is sensitive to pre-earthquake ultra low
frequencies, can ("working in cooperation with nature") make objects move
by telekinesis and discovers that God is only some leaves (Nature).

	The audience comes out willing to give up Yahweh, Buddha, Jesus
Christ et al in exchange for a tree.

	Not one TV show, advert, movie, radio program, magazine or book
(but for a few), not a single statement by our vote-fraud elected repre-
sentatives in office is without the constant and unremitting message:

	"Marxism and the Glory of the Coming Communist Utopia is our
only hope."

	When car and home values start sinking I will take my family from
this country.
					Request my reviews of THE ROCK and
					HARRIET THE SPY. - John
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Mon Jul 29 14:40:06 PDT 1996
Article: 71857 of alt.conspiracy
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: PHENOMENON Reviewed Correctly-->>
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PHENOMENON with "Mr. Scientology" himself John Travolta

	....is an intense, brazen and non-stop proselytizing EARTH-TREE
WORSHIP film in the continuing and everlasting series of films from
Hollywood in it's universal methodology to pervert humankind from worship
of any God that may have writings suggesting what morality, freedom,
independence and right and wrong are. 

	Obeying Marx's contention that Religion is the Opium of the people
and is a threat to Communism the One Worlder Totalitarians (OTW) target
society daily via all mass media attempting to convert/pervert us from
worship of a God that can protect us by righteousness to a silent god,
Naturalism (the worship and glorification of nature to the complete
exclusion of all supernatural and spiritual elements). 

	In the OWT dream they recognize that the masses must worship
something so they foist on us Mother Earth as she has no admonishments
about our behavior, teaches us nothing about why it is that our public
schools are brainwashing caldrons producing adults so ignorant they
actually believe they Know Something even though few can read in any
language.

THE DEVICE:
	John Travolta is struct by a bolt of light and suddenly gains so
much intelligence and insight he is sensitive to pre-earthquake ultra low
frequencies, can ("working in cooperation with nature") make objects move
by telekinesis and discovers that God is only some leaves (Nature).

	The audience comes out willing to give up Yahweh, Buddha, Jesus
Christ et al in exchange for a tree.

	Not one TV show, advert, movie, radio program, magazine or book
(but for a few), not a single statement by our vote-fraud elected repre-
sentatives in office is without the constant and unremitting message:

	"Marxism and the Glory of the Coming Communist Utopia is our
only hope."

	When car and home values start sinking I will take my family from
this country.
					Request my reviews of THE ROCK and
					HARRIET THE SPY. - John
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: PHENOMENON Reviewed Correctly-->>
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PHENOMENON with "Mr. Scientology" himself John Travolta

	....is an intense, brazen and non-stop proselytizing EARTH-TREE
WORSHIP film in the continuing and everlasting series of films from
Hollywood in it's universal methodology to pervert humankind from worship
of any God that may have writings suggesting what morality, freedom,
independence and right and wrong are. 

	Obeying Marx's contention that Religion is the Opium of the people
and is a threat to Communism the One Worlder Totalitarians (OTW) target
society daily via all mass media attempting to convert/pervert us from
worship of a God that can protect us by righteousness to a silent god,
Naturalism (the worship and glorification of nature to the complete
exclusion of all supernatural and spiritual elements). 

	In the OWT dream they recognize that the masses must worship
something so they foist on us Mother Earth as she has no admonishments
about our behavior, teaches us nothing about why it is that our public
schools are brainwashing caldrons producing adults so ignorant they
actually believe they Know Something even though few can read in any
language.

THE DEVICE:
	John Travolta is struct by a bolt of light and suddenly gains so
much intelligence and insight he is sensitive to pre-earthquake ultra low
frequencies, can ("working in cooperation with nature") make objects move
by telekinesis and discovers that God is only some leaves (Nature).

	The audience comes out willing to give up Yahweh, Buddha, Jesus
Christ et al in exchange for a tree.

	Not one TV show, advert, movie, radio program, magazine or book
(but for a few), not a single statement by our vote-fraud elected repre-
sentatives in office is without the constant and unremitting message:

	"Marxism and the Glory of the Coming Communist Utopia is our
only hope."

	When car and home values start sinking I will take my family from
this country.
					Request my reviews of THE ROCK and
					HARRIET THE SPY. - John
------------------------------------------------------------------------
For a Cutting Edge, Hard-Right Political WEB PAGE:
http://www.best.com/~jdulaney/politics.html

"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer



From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Tue Jul 30 08:23:01 PDT 1996
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: Re: "Constitution means nothing", John Glenn + more
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karl mamer (kamamer@zot.io.org) wrote:
: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney) writes:
: > JOHN GLENN, "The American people want their representatives to do things
: > for them without regard for the Constitution."

: Well, that's kinda out of context. It's certainly a true statement.
: Now if you would be so kind as to post the rest of his comments
: that demonstrate he's in agreement with the statement an not
: merely making an observation about the majority of voters.

	I don't have the full quote.
	John
							   
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 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


From jdulaney@nntp.best.com Tue Jul 30 20:36:26 PDT 1996
Article: 54425 of alt.revisionism
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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: BETTER than PAT: CHARLES E. COLLINS!!!!
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	CHARLES E. COLLINS is an American's Only Real Hope
	--------------------------------------------------
	  You'd best read why. Time is short for us all.
	  ----------------------------------------------

Beware of Patrick J. Buchanan. In Patrick J. Buchanan's  book  "RIGHT
FROM THE BEGINNING" on page 355 to page 359 Mr. Buchanan states he favors
a Constitutional Convention. Does this sound like someone that is
protecting our U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights? Once a
Constitutional Convention is called the delegates can scrape the old
constitution and subsitute what ever they want. Is this the kind of 
person we want for our President? 

Charles E. Collins is the only Constitutional President that we have
running that  is against a One World Government and he has stated he will
not have anyone working for him   that is a member of  the CFR, TL or 
the Bilderberg group.

Charles E. Collins was the first to file for president on the Republican
Party. Mr. Collins was not recognized by the Republican National
Committed (RNC) because he did not have the views of ONE WORLDERS Power
Elite Group. Mr. Collins was at New Hampshire with the other Presidential
Candidates but was not allowed to talk. Pat Robertson's Christian
Coalitions Group also would not allow Mr. Collins to speak at their
Victory 95 Convention. All the major news media blacked out anything on
Mr. Collins. What do all the One Worlders have to fear from Mr. Collins?

Mr. Collins wants to:  
                        RETURN  to one NATION under GOD...
                        ONE NATION under the CONSTITUTION and the BILL of
RIGHTS.

Mr. Collins pledge to the American people are as follows:

*Abolish the Federal Income Tax and intrusive IRS. Crate a National 5%
capped consumptions tax with 2% cap on food and medicine.

*Refute and repeal NAFTA and GATT Agreements. Refute and repeal AID
(Agency for International Development). This Agency was set up in 1963 to
pay American companies to pack up machines, etc. with your tax dollars,
and move overseas. This is where the American high-paying jobs went. When
high-paying jobs are restored to American families, parents will have the
opportunity to stay home, and teach their own traditionally family values
to their children.

*Do away with inheritance and Estate Taxes. Secure the family home. Help
cities, counties, and states abolish property taxes.

*Real welfare reform. Return to County Welfare Boards with funding for
State and Local sources. This will save up to 85% of the current budget
for welfare. Continue checks to those in need. Eliminate most of the
Federal bureaucracy associated with welfare, and help place its employees
in the private sector.

*End Goals 2000 and Outcome Based Education. Let states implement a
sensible education program that teaches phonics, reading, math (algebra,
geometry, trig, calculus), government, and true history. (Abolish the
Department of Education and return to state and local control by parents,
taxpayers, and local school officials). Mr. collins supports the
principle of home schooling.

*Tough crime legislation that addresses the real problem---the criminal,
not the victim. Make criminals pay restitution to victims, not to the
government.

*In favor of returning Parity to the farmers, because it bring prosperity
to the whole nation and allows the family farmers an opportunity to stay
on the land.

*Restore the Constitution and rescind all executive orders,
systematically abolishing unconstitutional emergency powers granted to
the Presidency by Congress, thereby ending the continual state of
national emergency once and for all. Protect the Second Amendment,
undiluted, and all of our Bill of Rights.

*Restore individual and states rights. Eliminate oppressive and wasteful
government agencies. Combine all the good activities from each agency
into a single cabinet position. Mr. Collins supports clean air, clean
water, safety in the work place, and sound health and ecology positions.

*Withdraw from the United Nations. Send foreign troops home. No American
troops under foreign command. Mr. Collins supports the Sovereignty of the
United States, and opposes all movement toward a New World Order. Make
our Constitution the Supreme law of the Land again. He would bring our
troops home form Bosnia.

*Buy back the Federal Reserve banking system, returning its assets and
activities to the control of the U.S. Treasury, thus eliminating this
illegal private banking cartel that has created debt money from thin air
since 1913. Pay off the National debt, retire bonds as they mature, and
balance the budget.

*Support full disclosure of all files on POW-MIA's. Locate and go after
detained Americans. Fund the armed forces. Bring our armed forces back to
full defensive strength. Bring most American troops home, close bases in
foreign countries, maintain bases in U.S>A. Honor obligations to our
Veterans. Fully investigate the Gulf War Syndrome Disease and give full
medical treatment to veterans.

*Introduce measures designed to eliminate vote fraud. Reform voting
procedures, campaign financing, and corporate and foreign lobbying.
Simplify and revise the Federal Elections Commission Regulations.

*Add Sunset Clause to all new legislation along with the source of
Constitutional authority for each law.


Mr. Collins is the 3rd party candidate that can and will restore our
country to being run under the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights and
needs all of our help.


Mr. Charles E. Collins can be reached at the following for additional
information: 
                       Ballot Access and Volunteers
                       P.O. Box 9458
                       10279 Front Beach Rd.
                        P.C. Beach, FL 32417
                       904-234-6226  (voice)
                       904-234-5191 (fax)

                       Charles E. Collins
                       P.O. Box 1407
                       20 W. Main Street
                       Forsyth, GA 31029
                        912-994-8219 (voice)
                        912-994-1695 (voice)
                        912-994-1790 (voice)
                        800-994-8322 (voice)
                        912-994-7995 (fax)
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"There is not Evil, only proof of Evil -
 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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	Allan,
	Thanks for your very clever remarks.
	You have stumped me to undercut your wit.
	John

Allan Matthews (amatthews@cybercom.net) wrote:
: In article <4tga7k$htp@nntp1.best.com>, jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney) wrote:
: >[Paranoid crap about a silly little movie deleted]
: >
: >        When car and home values start sinking I will take my family from
: >this country.

: Why wait?  Please leave now if you don't like it.  But then, if we are heading 
: towards one world totalitarian Communism, as you so poorly argue, where the 
: hell are you planning to go to?

: -allan

: p.s. how much do you think your rusted-out old stationwagon and mobile home 
: are really worth anyway?

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From: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney)
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Subject: BETTER than PAT: CHARLES E. COLLINS!!!!
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	CHARLES E. COLLINS is an American's Only Real Hope
	--------------------------------------------------
	  You'd best read why. Time is short for us all.
	  ----------------------------------------------

Beware of Patrick J. Buchanan. In Patrick J. Buchanan's  book  "RIGHT
FROM THE BEGINNING" on page 355 to page 359 Mr. Buchanan states he favors
a Constitutional Convention. Does this sound like someone that is
protecting our U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights? Once a
Constitutional Convention is called the delegates can scrape the old
constitution and subsitute what ever they want. Is this the kind of 
person we want for our President? 

Charles E. Collins is the only Constitutional President that we have
running that  is against a One World Government and he has stated he will
not have anyone working for him   that is a member of  the CFR, TL or 
the Bilderberg group.

Charles E. Collins was the first to file for president on the Republican
Party. Mr. Collins was not recognized by the Republican National
Committed (RNC) because he did not have the views of ONE WORLDERS Power
Elite Group. Mr. Collins was at New Hampshire with the other Presidential
Candidates but was not allowed to talk. Pat Robertson's Christian
Coalitions Group also would not allow Mr. Collins to speak at their
Victory 95 Convention. All the major news media blacked out anything on
Mr. Collins. What do all the One Worlders have to fear from Mr. Collins?

Mr. Collins wants to:  
                        RETURN  to one NATION under GOD...
                        ONE NATION under the CONSTITUTION and the BILL of
RIGHTS.

Mr. Collins pledge to the American people are as follows:

*Abolish the Federal Income Tax and intrusive IRS. Crate a National 5%
capped consumptions tax with 2% cap on food and medicine.

*Refute and repeal NAFTA and GATT Agreements. Refute and repeal AID
(Agency for International Development). This Agency was set up in 1963 to
pay American companies to pack up machines, etc. with your tax dollars,
and move overseas. This is where the American high-paying jobs went. When
high-paying jobs are restored to American families, parents will have the
opportunity to stay home, and teach their own traditionally family values
to their children.

*Do away with inheritance and Estate Taxes. Secure the family home. Help
cities, counties, and states abolish property taxes.

*Real welfare reform. Return to County Welfare Boards with funding for
State and Local sources. This will save up to 85% of the current budget
for welfare. Continue checks to those in need. Eliminate most of the
Federal bureaucracy associated with welfare, and help place its employees
in the private sector.

*End Goals 2000 and Outcome Based Education. Let states implement a
sensible education program that teaches phonics, reading, math (algebra,
geometry, trig, calculus), government, and true history. (Abolish the
Department of Education and return to state and local control by parents,
taxpayers, and local school officials). Mr. collins supports the
principle of home schooling.

*Tough crime legislation that addresses the real problem---the criminal,
not the victim. Make criminals pay restitution to victims, not to the
government.

*In favor of returning Parity to the farmers, because it bring prosperity
to the whole nation and allows the family farmers an opportunity to stay
on the land.

*Restore the Constitution and rescind all executive orders,
systematically abolishing unconstitutional emergency powers granted to
the Presidency by Congress, thereby ending the continual state of
national emergency once and for all. Protect the Second Amendment,
undiluted, and all of our Bill of Rights.

*Restore individual and states rights. Eliminate oppressive and wasteful
government agencies. Combine all the good activities from each agency
into a single cabinet position. Mr. Collins supports clean air, clean
water, safety in the work place, and sound health and ecology positions.

*Withdraw from the United Nations. Send foreign troops home. No American
troops under foreign command. Mr. Collins supports the Sovereignty of the
United States, and opposes all movement toward a New World Order. Make
our Constitution the Supreme law of the Land again. He would bring our
troops home form Bosnia.

*Buy back the Federal Reserve banking system, returning its assets and
activities to the control of the U.S. Treasury, thus eliminating this
illegal private banking cartel that has created debt money from thin air
since 1913. Pay off the National debt, retire bonds as they mature, and
balance the budget.

*Support full disclosure of all files on POW-MIA's. Locate and go after
detained Americans. Fund the armed forces. Bring our armed forces back to
full defensive strength. Bring most American troops home, close bases in
foreign countries, maintain bases in U.S>A. Honor obligations to our
Veterans. Fully investigate the Gulf War Syndrome Disease and give full
medical treatment to veterans.

*Introduce measures designed to eliminate vote fraud. Reform voting
procedures, campaign financing, and corporate and foreign lobbying.
Simplify and revise the Federal Elections Commission Regulations.

*Add Sunset Clause to all new legislation along with the source of
Constitutional authority for each law.


Mr. Collins is the 3rd party candidate that can and will restore our
country to being run under the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights and
needs all of our help.


Mr. Charles E. Collins can be reached at the following for additional
information: 
                       Ballot Access and Volunteers
                       P.O. Box 9458
                       10279 Front Beach Rd.
                        P.C. Beach, FL 32417
                       904-234-6226  (voice)
                       904-234-5191 (fax)

                       Charles E. Collins
                       P.O. Box 1407
                       20 W. Main Street
                       Forsyth, GA 31029
                        912-994-8219 (voice)
                        912-994-1695 (voice)
                        912-994-1790 (voice)
                        800-994-8322 (voice)
                        912-994-7995 (fax)
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Subject: EPA Today: REMOVE ALL CARS older than 4 yrs.
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	3 PARTS! Please read each.

1) NEW EPA RULES in New Jersey and California (destined for all states)
require crushing of all cars older than 4 years. Thousands of cars already
crushed.

2) WHO is doing this and why!

3) A Rally in Sacramento to PROTEST!!! - Comment Line for KSFO Radio in
San Francisco 415-954-7523.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

1) Subject: Re: California Smog Check II

In article <4supjb$i56@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, delthomas@aol.com says...

	I read in last Wednesday's San Francisco Chronicle that under the
new smog laws that took effect in June, there are a bunch of new rules
that are pretty shocking. The one that bothered me most was that if your
car fails the test, it is *automatically* labeled as a "gross polluter."
You then have to spend a *minimum* of $425 on repairs before you can take
it to a referee station and get it retested. Then, if it fails that
retest, you have 12 months and no dollar limitations while you try to get
it ready to pass. If it doesn't pass the second time (after the 12 months
and however many dollars you invest), they can then confiscate the car,
pay you from $395 to $695 for the car, and then scrap the car. 

	This seems like a grossly unfair system. What if all that is wrong
is one misfiring spark plug (poorly gapped, for instance). Instead of
spending a couple bucks or less for a new plug, or properly regapping the
old one, you end up having to spend over $400 more before you can get
retested.  This seems like a real ripoff. I have to smog test in December
of this year and am thinking of having my emissions "informally" tested
first.  Then I can at least attempt to repair things within a reasonable
price limitation (new catalytic converter, new EGR valve, whatever might
be necessary... and likely to cost a pantload less than $425 since I
routinely maintain the car). 

2)	From John Dulaney:

	KSFO Radio - San Francisco 5.60 AM on the LEE ROGER's show and
others has been exploding the outrageous facts of this new Car Stealing
program of the Leftists.
	Every morning listeners call in reporting their cars have been
taken and crushed. 1 man lost 11 Corvairs, another man lost two classic
Corvettes. All crushed. Pollution credits for this can not be given to the
car's owners but ONLY to companies and corporations who then use these
credits to avoid cleaning up their own industries.
	Radio ads ask for people to donate their old cars to "charity" to
"help the children" but the cars end up being crushed for their pollution
credit value.

	The new EPA rules make it Impossible for any car older than 4
years to pass.
	The AAA and all insurance companies are FOR this confiscation of
our cars as they stand to gain. The auto manufacturers will gain BIG since
if you want a car you'll have to buy a new one.
	Leasing will be big.
	Car repair shops will go out of business.
	The Federal Government will control all smog tests.

	Al Gore's book calls for the total elimination of all fossil fuel
drive cars within 2 years (of the publication of his book).
	This despite the fact that electric cars use MORE fossil fuels to
get their energy into cars and the disposal of batteries will be the
biggest natural disaster in history. 
	Independant scientists have long blasted the entire effort to
convert to electric energy as a fraud and that doing so would WORSEN
pollution.

	Many ecology-minded groups are beginning to see the truth behind
the Communist One Worlders in government and are denouncing Clinton's
record for what it is: worse than Reagan or Bush.
	If we TRULY love the earth (and all conservatives do) we won't
like it much when our entire planet is turned into the toxic waste that
all Communist countries have become.
	Those BEHIND the Conspiracy (basically the few International
Bankers that own the Federal Reserve System and multinational corporations
who seek total elimination of competition and all EPA-styled protection
of the ecological system) intend for a "1984" type Totalitarian One World
Order without any oversite beyond it's own needs.

	The REAL point is to GET PEOPLE out of their cars entirely.
	People who can't use public transportation to get to work, shop or
take a vacation can buy horses and:

	Throw the US into a Depression that only "the elimination of our
Constitution and martial law can correct."

3)
	From another Newsgroup:
	
     The smog laws in California are becoming more strict. The new program,
dubbed "Smog Check 2" will use dynamometers run by the company "Envirotest".
This program will make it EXTREMELY DIFFICULT for the average auto on the 
road to pass the test---upto 60% of the autos tested will fail the test.
There will no longer be exemptions for ANY VEHICLE---including older,
classic, or collectors cars. If you like your car, and you like to drive
your daily beater, classic or collectible, join other people as we protest
this new draconian program!!
 
     The protest against the new smog laws will occur:
			
		AUGUST 21, 1996
		8:30am to 12:30pm
		west steps of the capitol in Sacramento
 
     A program very similar to Smog Check 2 was initiated in New Jersey,
and that law eventually evolved into car confiscation if the car didn't
pass...would you want your corvette, camaro, mustang,  mercedes, or bmw
to be snatched and crushed by the state government???  If you care about
your car---join the protest on Aug. 21st!!!!!!
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>From  John Dulaney:
 
	This is being lead by Mellanie Morgan and Lee Rogers of KSFO
Radio.

	1) Careers Act: The State tells you how much education you get,
where you will work for the rest of your life. Nears voting in D.C.
	2) Calif. Judge about to rewrite state Constitution to determine
that the STATE shall have control over all children ending parental rights
at upbringing.
	3) New Anti-Terrorist Legislation to allow wiretaps of ALL
								---
	citizens without a judge's warrant. Wiretaps will be allowed based
soley on what The Federal Government believes is a National Security need.
	Since, eventually if not already, all citizens will be deemed a
risk to the State....

>From  George Orwell's "1984" (page 60):

	"But the Proles (ed: the sheople - You! The public), if only they
could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need
to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse
shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces
tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it.
And yet--!"

	(Page 61)
	
	"Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until
after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."

				Best, John
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Frank Rizzo (Frizzo@hollywood.&vine) wrote:
: John Dulaney wrote:
: > 
: > PHENOMENON with "Mr. Scientology" himself John Travolta

: I was wondering about the scene where the two stars of the movie slept 
: together.  Was the woman depressed because Travolta's character died?
: Or was she crying because she had just had unprotected sex with a man 
: that she had only known for a few weeks and was feeling like a cheap 
: whore?

	Both?
	John

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>From  George Orwell's "1984" (page 60):

	"But the Proles (ed: the sheople - You! The public), if only they
could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need
to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse
shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces
tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it.
And yet--!"

	(Page 61)
	
	"Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until
after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."

				Best, John
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Hi,
	Since so many friends around the world have asked me about
PAL-SECAM-NTSC questions and where to buy VCRs etc....
	and having lived outside the US for most of the last 27 years I
became rather expert in video and TV standards and knowing where to get
multistandard VCRs, TVs, camcorders and converters at cheap prices, mail
ordered world-wide.
	Need to read about this? Just E-mail me for an E-mail text 
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kebarnes@cc.memphis.edu wrote:
: jdulaney@nntp.best.com (John Dulaney) writes:

: > JOHN GLENN, "The American people want their representatives to do things
: > for them without regard for the Constitution."

: Of course, Sen. Glenn could have been saying this in a critical fashion...

	I suppose that would make you feel better.
	But what if he was dead serious?
	Which he was.
  
: > RICHARD LAMM, "I am a One Worlder."

: And what was the context for this?  A quote like "We talk too much
: about the 'first world,' and the 'third world.'  I am a one worlder."
: perhaps?

	One day you may hear his own voice, but I don't think it will
matter to you.
  
: > Throughout every aspect of American society, culture, military, education,
: > government etc. OUR LAWS MEAN NOTHING!

: You see, someone could labe you as an anarchist if they took your
: quote "OUR LAWS MEAN NOTHING!" out of context.  Did John Dulaney
: really mean that he doesn't intend to obey the law, and he would
: encourage others to ignore the law?

	What blazing wit.
	John
							   
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	CHARLES E. COLLINS is an American's Only Real Hope
	--------------------------------------------------
	  You'd best read why. Time is short for us all.
	  ----------------------------------------------

Beware of Patrick J. Buchanan. In Patrick J. Buchanan's  book  "RIGHT
FROM THE BEGINNING" on page 355 to page 359 Mr. Buchanan states he favors
a Constitutional Convention. Does this sound like someone that is
protecting our U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights? Once a
Constitutional Convention is called the delegates can scrape the old
constitution and subsitute what ever they want. Is this the kind of 
person we want for our President? 

Charles E. Collins is the only Constitutional President that we have
running that  is against a One World Government and he has stated he will
not have anyone working for him   that is a member of  the CFR, TL or 
the Bilderberg group.

Charles E. Collins was the first to file for president on the Republican
Party. Mr. Collins was not recognized by the Republican National
Committed (RNC) because he did not have the views of ONE WORLDERS Power
Elite Group. Mr. Collins was at New Hampshire with the other Presidential
Candidates but was not allowed to talk. Pat Robertson's Christian
Coalitions Group also would not allow Mr. Collins to speak at their
Victory 95 Convention. All the major news media blacked out anything on
Mr. Collins. What do all the One Worlders have to fear from Mr. Collins?

Mr. Collins wants to:  
                        RETURN  to one NATION under GOD...
                        ONE NATION under the CONSTITUTION and the BILL of
RIGHTS.

Mr. Collins pledge to the American people are as follows:

*Abolish the Federal Income Tax and intrusive IRS. Crate a National 5%
capped consumptions tax with 2% cap on food and medicine.

*Refute and repeal NAFTA and GATT Agreements. Refute and repeal AID
(Agency for International Development). This Agency was set up in 1963 to
pay American companies to pack up machines, etc. with your tax dollars,
and move overseas. This is where the American high-paying jobs went. When
high-paying jobs are restored to American families, parents will have the
opportunity to stay home, and teach their own traditionally family values
to their children.

*Do away with inheritance and Estate Taxes. Secure the family home. Help
cities, counties, and states abolish property taxes.

*Real welfare reform. Return to County Welfare Boards with funding for
State and Local sources. This will save up to 85% of the current budget
for welfare. Continue checks to those in need. Eliminate most of the
Federal bureaucracy associated with welfare, and help place its employees
in the private sector.

*End Goals 2000 and Outcome Based Education. Let states implement a
sensible education program that teaches phonics, reading, math (algebra,
geometry, trig, calculus), government, and true history. (Abolish the
Department of Education and return to state and local control by parents,
taxpayers, and local school officials). Mr. collins supports the
principle of home schooling.

*Tough crime legislation that addresses the real problem---the criminal,
not the victim. Make criminals pay restitution to victims, not to the
government.

*In favor of returning Parity to the farmers, because it bring prosperity
to the whole nation and allows the family farmers an opportunity to stay
on the land.

*Restore the Constitution and rescind all executive orders,
systematically abolishing unconstitutional emergency powers granted to
the Presidency by Congress, thereby ending the continual state of
national emergency once and for all. Protect the Second Amendment,
undiluted, and all of our Bill of Rights.

*Restore individual and states rights. Eliminate oppressive and wasteful
government agencies. Combine all the good activities from each agency
into a single cabinet position. Mr. Collins supports clean air, clean
water, safety in the work place, and sound health and ecology positions.

*Withdraw from the United Nations. Send foreign troops home. No American
troops under foreign command. Mr. Collins supports the Sovereignty of the
United States, and opposes all movement toward a New World Order. Make
our Constitution the Supreme law of the Land again. He would bring our
troops home form Bosnia.

*Buy back the Federal Reserve banking system, returning its assets and
activities to the control of the U.S. Treasury, thus eliminating this
illegal private banking cartel that has created debt money from thin air
since 1913. Pay off the National debt, retire bonds as they mature, and
balance the budget.

*Support full disclosure of all files on POW-MIA's. Locate and go after
detained Americans. Fund the armed forces. Bring our armed forces back to
full defensive strength. Bring most American troops home, close bases in
foreign countries, maintain bases in U.S>A. Honor obligations to our
Veterans. Fully investigate the Gulf War Syndrome Disease and give full
medical treatment to veterans.

*Introduce measures designed to eliminate vote fraud. Reform voting
procedures, campaign financing, and corporate and foreign lobbying.
Simplify and revise the Federal Elections Commission Regulations.

*Add Sunset Clause to all new legislation along with the source of
Constitutional authority for each law.


Mr. Collins is the 3rd party candidate that can and will restore our
country to being run under the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights and
needs all of our help.


Mr. Charles E. Collins can be reached at the following for additional
information: 
                       Ballot Access and Volunteers
                       P.O. Box 9458
                       10279 Front Beach Rd.
                        P.C. Beach, FL 32417
                       904-234-6226  (voice)
                       904-234-5191 (fax)

                       Charles E. Collins
                       P.O. Box 1407
                       20 W. Main Street
                       Forsyth, GA 31029
                        912-994-8219 (voice)
                        912-994-1695 (voice)
                        912-994-1790 (voice)
                        800-994-8322 (voice)
                        912-994-7995 (fax)
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	3 PARTS! Please read each.

1) NEW EPA RULES in New Jersey and California (destined for all states)
require crushing of all cars older than 4 years. Thousands of cars already
crushed.

2) WHO is doing this and why!

3) A Rally in Sacramento to PROTEST!!! - Comment Line for KSFO Radio in
San Francisco 415-954-7523.
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1) Subject: Re: California Smog Check II

In article <4supjb$i56@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, delthomas@aol.com says...

	I read in last Wednesday's San Francisco Chronicle that under the
new smog laws that took effect in June, there are a bunch of new rules
that are pretty shocking. The one that bothered me most was that if your
car fails the test, it is *automatically* labeled as a "gross polluter."
You then have to spend a *minimum* of $425 on repairs before you can take
it to a referee station and get it retested. Then, if it fails that
retest, you have 12 months and no dollar limitations while you try to get
it ready to pass. If it doesn't pass the second time (after the 12 months
and however many dollars you invest), they can then confiscate the car,
pay you from $395 to $695 for the car, and then scrap the car. 

	This seems like a grossly unfair system. What if all that is wrong
is one misfiring spark plug (poorly gapped, for instance). Instead of
spending a couple bucks or less for a new plug, or properly regapping the
old one, you end up having to spend over $400 more before you can get
retested.  This seems like a real ripoff. I have to smog test in December
of this year and am thinking of having my emissions "informally" tested
first.  Then I can at least attempt to repair things within a reasonable
price limitation (new catalytic converter, new EGR valve, whatever might
be necessary... and likely to cost a pantload less than $425 since I
routinely maintain the car). 

2)	From John Dulaney:

	KSFO Radio - San Francisco 5.60 AM on the LEE ROGER's show and
others has been exploding the outrageous facts of this new Car Stealing
program of the Leftists.
	Every morning listeners call in reporting their cars have been
taken and crushed. 1 man lost 11 Corvairs, another man lost two classic
Corvettes. All crushed. Pollution credits for this can not be given to the
car's owners but ONLY to companies and corporations who then use these
credits to avoid cleaning up their own industries.
	Radio ads ask for people to donate their old cars to "charity" to
"help the children" but the cars end up being crushed for their pollution
credit value.

	The new EPA rules make it Impossible for any car older than 4
years to pass.
	The AAA and all insurance companies are FOR this confiscation of
our cars as they stand to gain. The auto manufacturers will gain BIG since
if you want a car you'll have to buy a new one.
	Leasing will be big.
	Car repair shops will go out of business.
	The Federal Government will control all smog tests.

	Al Gore's book calls for the total elimination of all fossil fuel
drive cars within 2 years (of the publication of his book).
	This despite the fact that electric cars use MORE fossil fuels to
get their energy into cars and the disposal of batteries will be the
biggest natural disaster in history. 
	Independant scientists have long blasted the entire effort to
convert to electric energy as a fraud and that doing so would WORSEN
pollution.

	Many ecology-minded groups are beginning to see the truth behind
the Communist One Worlders in government and are denouncing Clinton's
record for what it is: worse than Reagan or Bush.
	If we TRULY love the earth (and all conservatives do) we won't
like it much when our entire planet is turned into the toxic waste that
all Communist countries have become.
	Those BEHIND the Conspiracy (basically the few International
Bankers that own the Federal Reserve System and multinational corporations
who seek total elimination of competition and all EPA-styled protection
of the ecological system) intend for a "1984" type Totalitarian One World
Order without any oversite beyond it's own needs.

	The REAL point is to GET PEOPLE out of their cars entirely.
	People who can't use public transportation to get to work, shop or
take a vacation can buy horses and:

	Throw the US into a Depression that only "the elimination of our
Constitution and martial law can correct."

3)
	From another Newsgroup:
	
     The smog laws in California are becoming more strict. The new program,
dubbed "Smog Check 2" will use dynamometers run by the company "Envirotest".
This program will make it EXTREMELY DIFFICULT for the average auto on the 
road to pass the test---upto 60% of the autos tested will fail the test.
There will no longer be exemptions for ANY VEHICLE---including older,
classic, or collectors cars. If you like your car, and you like to drive
your daily beater, classic or collectible, join other people as we protest
this new draconian program!!
 
     The protest against the new smog laws will occur:
			
		AUGUST 21, 1996
		8:30am to 12:30pm
		west steps of the capitol in Sacramento
 
     A program very similar to Smog Check 2 was initiated in New Jersey,
and that law eventually evolved into car confiscation if the car didn't
pass...would you want your corvette, camaro, mustang,  mercedes, or bmw
to be snatched and crushed by the state government???  If you care about
your car---join the protest on Aug. 21st!!!!!!
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>From  John Dulaney:
 
	This Protest is being lead by Mellanie Morgan and Lee Rogers of
KSFO Radio. 

	Some MORE things to worry about:

	1) Careers Act: The State tells you how much education you get,
where you will work for the rest of your life. Nears voting in D.C.
	2) Calif. Judge about to rewrite state Constitution to determine
that the STATE shall have control over all children ending parental rights
at upbringing.
	3) New Anti-Terrorist Legislation to allow wiretaps of ALL
								---
	citizens without a judge's warrant. Wiretaps will be allowed based
soley on what The Federal Government believes is a National Security need.
	Since, eventually if not already, all citizens will be deemed a
risk to the State....

>From  George Orwell's "1984" (page 60):

	"But the Proles (ed: the sheople - You! The public), if only they
could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need
to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse
shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces
tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it.
And yet--!"

	(Page 61)
	
	"Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until
after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."

				Best, John
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 there is not Freedom, only proof of Freedom -
 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
 there is not Love, only proof of Love -"
				        --- John Dulaney

"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is
violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


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PHENOMENON with "Mr. Scientology" himself John Travolta

	....is an intense, brazen and non-stop proselytizing EARTH-TREE
WORSHIP film in the continuing and everlasting series of films from
Hollywood in it's universal methodology to pervert humankind from worship
of any God that may have writings suggesting what morality, freedom,
independence and right and wrong are. 

	Obeying Marx's contention that Religion is the Opium of the people
and is a threat to Communism the One Worlder Totalitarians (OTW) target
society daily via all mass media attempting to convert/pervert us from
worship of a God that can protect us by righteousness to a silent god,
Naturalism (the worship and glorification of nature to the complete
exclusion of all supernatural and spiritual elements). 

	In the OWT dream they recognize that the masses must worship
something so they foist on us Mother Earth as she has no admonishments
about our behavior, teaches us nothing about why it is that our public
schools are brainwashing caldrons producing adults so ignorant they
actually believe they Know Something even though few can read in any
language.

THE DEVICE:
	John Travolta is struct by a bolt of light and suddenly gains so
much intelligence and insight he is sensitive to pre-earthquake ultra low
frequencies, can ("working in cooperation with nature") make objects move
by telekinesis and discovers that God is only some leaves (Nature).

	The audience comes out willing to give up Yahweh, Buddha, Jesus
Christ et al in exchange for a tree.

	Not one TV show, advert, movie, radio program, magazine or book
(but for a few), not a single statement by our vote-fraud elected repre-
sentatives in office is without the constant and unremitting message:

	"Marxism and the Glory of the Coming Communist Utopia is our
only hope."

	When car and home values start sinking I will take my family from
this country.
					Request my reviews of THE ROCK and
					HARRIET THE SPY. - John
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				        --- John Dulaney

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AHABIZ (ahabiz@aol.com) wrote:

: In article <838482486$2115@atype.com>, jdulaney@nntp1.best.com (John
: Dulaney) writes:

: >Throughout every aspect of American society, culture, military,
: education,
: >government etc. OUR LAWS MEAN NOTHING!

: John this is simply not true, and other than a few out of context quotes
: you have NO evidence to support your this statement.
: Arlin H. Adams

	Gee.
	There IS one LIBERAL still left on this planet!
	GO-GO-GO!
	You can vote yourself KING!
	John

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 there is not Beauty, only proof of Beauty -
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				        --- John Dulaney

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violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
					--- Arthur Schopenhauer


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>From  George Orwell's "1984" (page 60):

	"But the Proles (ed: the sheople - You! The public), if only they
could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need
to conspire. They needed only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse
shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces
tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it.
And yet--!"

	(Page 61)
	
	"Until they become conscious they will never rebel, and until
after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious."

				Best, John
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