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Dear Mike,

Just denying the long since proved filth in your so-called Talmud does 
not in anyway expunge or purify that great and representative Jewish 
contribution to world literature. Mr. McKinney was relatively kind to 
your Talmud. He might have noted that the Jews were the ones who 
enshrined for all to see in their Talmud the practice of pedophilia as 
religiously recommended.

You want references? Find them chapter and verse and in your favorite 
Hebrew in Mrs. Elizabeth Dilling's masterwork, The Plot Against 
Christianity. If you are interested in learning what your "religion" is 
all about, e-mail me and I'll direct you to a source.

Another book to fill out your education is The Talmud Unmasked by Fr. 
Pranaites, a well known Catholic scholar around the turn of the century. 
Because of his authorship of that book, he was one of the first victims 
of the Jew-Bolshevists during their revolution in 1917. If you have 
further curiosity as to the basis of the Jewish "religion", I'd be happy 
to direct you to where you may obtain a copy of The Talmud Unmasked.

Best wishes for happy reading,
Ken

Mike S. Medintz wrote:
> 
> Whilst completely naked, Ian McKinney said unto us:
> 
> >Maybe, Steve, next time you'll give us a lesson on the Talmud. Tell us about
> >what "goyim" are.
> 
> Gentiles, but in Hebrew as opposed to English.
> 
> >For those who aren't familiar with Jewish terminology,
> >goyim (gentiles) are considered to be "cattle."
> 
> Incorrect.
> 
> >Tell us what you call a
> >gentile woman. You call them "shiska", which means "unclean meat." Right?
> 
> Wrong.
> 
> >Tell us how the Jews consider sex with a gentile woman to be "beastiality."
> 
> They don't.
> 
> >Tell us how Jews are permitted by their religion to cheat and even murder
> >gentiles.
> 
> Incorrect.
> 
> >It's all in the Talmud. Of course, most of these so-called
> >"experts" have never spent two seconds reading that book. Any gentile who
> >does will probably puke at the hatred you Jews spew at everyone else. It's a
> >disgusting book.
> 
> Hmm..McKinney...do you read Hebrew? Have you actually read the Talmud in
> the original Hebrew? No? Then kindly STFU.
> 
> >And, BTW, for all you Christians, the Jews say that your Lord Jesus was
> >concieved by a mensturating prostitute (Mary) while having intercourse with a
> >Roman soldier.
> 
> Incorrect. Strict Judaism, IIRC, doesn't really mention Jesus at all, aside
> from the theme of a "messiah from the House of David" coming to fulfill
> the Law. (There's one group of Jews, known as Messianic Jews, who waffle
> on the point of whether or not the Messiah has in fact come yet, but I'll
> admit not knowing all the details of that.)
> 
> >According to the Jews, Jesus is now spending eternity in a
> >vath of boiling semen or dung - depending on what section of the Talmud you
> >read - while having molten lead poured down his throat.
> 
> Bullshit. It's that simple.
> 
> >They also say that
> >all Christians practise beastiality and that Jews must never allow a
> >Christian to be alone with their livestock.
> 
> Bullshit again.
> 
> >And there's more, much more.
> 
> Unless you can actually cite a passage in the Torah or Talmud (Hebrew, not
> English translation), don't bother to elucidate.
> 
> >If anyone has any problems with this, I suggest you take it up with a rabbi,
> 
> I did take it up with a couple of Rabbis. The first question that they asked
> me was "Where on Earth did you come up with this drivel?"
> 
> >since I only report the facts, I don't make them up.
> 
> Bullshit. You haven't reported a single verifiable fact yet in your time
> on MAM.
> 
> --
> Mike S. Medintz |KB9ODS|http://falcon.cc.ukans.edu/~medintz
> "How could I ever start being sated?
>  THe hardest to learn was the least complicated." -Indigo Girls
>  Wise Use-ain't ||| Can Helen, not salmon


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Dear Ian,

When a Yid, posing as a Christian, attacks you with the "Chosen People" 
garbage, the best thing to do is to throw Jesus Christ's own words back 
in their teeth. In the Gospel according to St. John, 8th Chapter, 42nd 
Verse, speaking to the Jews: "Jesus therefore said to them, If God were 
your Father, you would indeed love me...Why do you not know my speech? 
Because you can not hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and 
the desires of your father you will do. He was a man killer from the 
beginning and he stood not in the truth; because the truth is not in him. 
When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar, and the 
father thereof."

Down through the ages, Christianity has always held that the Jews ceased 
to be God's "chosen people" when they rejected God and murdered Him on 
the Cross. They then became for all time The Deicide People, A People 
Acursed, The Perfidious Jews, Children of the Devil.

I rest my case.

Regards, 
Ken


Ian McKinney wrote:
> 
> In message <845610483$9109@atype.com> - sybesma@netcom.com (Steven D. Sybesma)
> writes:
> :>Fact is, you and your ilk are headed straight for a burning hell unless you get
> :>on your knees and repent to an angry God who is displeased with your constant
> :>evil-mouthings against his chosen people, the Jews.
> 
> What were they chosen for? To drive everybody else crazy?
> 
> :>This being said, I myself am not a Jew but recognize them and respect them
> :>because of what God PLAINLY said to Abraham in Genesis 12:3--
> 
> Oh, he "plainly" said it, huh? Were you there? I guess you don't have any
> problem with the Jews writing that the Jewish God said they were his "Chosen
> People." How conveient!
> 
> :>Meanwhile, you're under God's curse.
> 
> That "curse" and 50 cents might get you a cup of coffee.
> 
> :>It says what it says, and what you believe in is nothing more than the long
> :>disproved cultic rantings of people like Herbert Armstrong who started the
> :>damned-to-hell British-Israelism lie.
> :>
> :>In case you didn't know, the Worldwide Church of God has since repented of all
> :>that false doctrine.  Sorry if you can't realize the B-I error yourself.
> 
> BTW, I'm not Christian Identity, so save your breath.
> 
> :>In the end, the world is not run by a Jewish banking conspiracy.
> 
> When have I mentioned a "Jewish bankig conspiracy". I haven't and I don't
> remember anyone else saying that. You're delusional!
> 
> :>They have betrayed their own brothers and sisters just as much as you have
> :>cursed God's chosen people.
> 
> I'll continue to curse them as long as they keep doing what they're doing.
> 
> :>
> :>Any Jew or Christian who is willing to give up land to the Palestinians for
> :>peace cannot realistically be said to be a Jew or Christian, since God Himself
> :>gave to the Jews much more land than they now occupy, and it is His will that
> :>they would have occupied that land from the time God gave it to Abraham to
> :>forever.  To compromise on that is literally to disobey God.  Which is what
> :>Israel (as a picture of all of us, Jew or Gentile) has done throughout history.
> 
> More non-sensical drivel. Look, if want a sermon, I'll turn on the TV.
> 
> :>And for that which God commands that you take possession of forever, that same
> :>thing you have no right to give away, nor do you even owe an apology for
> :>demanding rightful ownership of it.  Such is the land of Israel to the Jews.
> :>
> :>And such is likened to all our God-given rights, by extension.
> :>
> :>God doesn't like wimpering cowards who compromise on principle.
> :>
> :>That's what the ADL is.  They are pro-Oslo so-called 'peace' process.
> 
> You can't prove one goddamn word you just said. It's all nonsense.
> 
> :>It's sad that you don't know that there is deep division among Jews in Israel.
> 
> Who cares?
> 
> Maybe, Steve, next time you'll give us a lesson on the Talmud. Tell us about
> what "goyim" are. For those who aren't familiar with Jewish terminology,
> goyim (gentiles) are considered to be "cattle." Tell us what you call a
> gentile woman. You call them "shiska", which means "unclean meat." Right?
> Tell us how the Jews consider sex with a gentile woman to be "beastiality."
> Tell us how Jews are permitted by their religion to cheat and even murder
> gentiles. It's all in the Talmud. Of course, most of these so-called
> "experts" have never spent two seconds reading that book. Any gentile who
> does will probably puke at the hatred you Jews spew at everyone else. It's a
> disgusting book.
> 
> And, BTW, for all you Christians, the Jews say that your Lord Jesus was
> concieved by a mensturating prostitute (Mary) while having intercourse with a
> Roman soldier. According to the Jews, Jesus is now spending eternity in a
> vath of boiling semen or dung - depending on what section of the Talmud you
> read - while having molten lead poured down his throat. They also say that
> all Christians practise beastiality and that Jews must never allow a
> Christian to be alone with their livestock.
> 
> And there's more, much more.
> 
> If anyone has any problems with this, I suggest you take it up with a rabbi,
> since I only report the facts, I don't make them up.
> 
> Yours truly,
> Ian McKinney
>     \|/
>      |
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Racial strength is vital - politics a luxury" - Charles Lindbergh
> 
> http://www.usaor.net/users/mckinney
> http://www.natvan.com or http://www.natall.com
> -------------------------------------------------------------------


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AHABIZ wrote:


Final conclusion on Arleen?

Your exegesis in effect says that God did not know what He is talking 
about when He states unequivocally that Jews are progeny of the Devil. Or 
you are saying that He didn't mean it but rather meant what you say He 
"means". I have no intention of continuing the debate. Just learn to read 
English and quit the flim flam.

Now Arleen? we come to another of your didactic pronouncements. This time 
on Identity Christianity. You say there is no Christianity in the 
Identity movement. I do not intend to debate this point either, whether 
there is or whether there isn't is not germane to this discussion. 

What is germane however is your twisting the point of discussion away 
>from  the facts:
	1. The ADL has targetted Identity Christianity for destruction;
           a. The Ruby Ridge Massacre;
           b. The attack on the Freemen

	2. And related to the above was the Waco Massacre.

It is not important whether one approves or disapproves of Karesh's 
Christianity or Identity Christianity. Of overriding importance is that 
the Constitution of the United States guarantees Freedom to both 
Religions. And make no mistake about it: the motive behind those 
massacres was Religion, religions particularly repugnant to the Jewish 
masters of this alien government. 

Most Militia men sought out and joined Militias after the two Massacres 
mentioned above and while the Second Amendment was being driven to the 
wall by our so-called congressional representatives. 

You purport to be a member of the Militia, yet you cavil about whether 
there is Christianity in the Identity movement!

If Militia men were not convinced we are being crushed under an ALIEN 
government, there is no purpose for the Militia movement except for boys 
and girls to play soldier.

I doubt whether you are even in the Militia, Arleen?. I think you are ADL 
or JDL. Maybe the Jews have their own secret "militia" and you are in 
that one, but from your postings I've seen, you portray nothing of the 
American Patriotic movement to restore the Constitution and wrest the 
government of this Nation from the hands of the enemies of God and man. 

On the contrary, your postings have the Jewish, Marxist thread throughout 
them all. In no way do you ever depart from that infamous line of 
propoganda and illogic. 

If you really have infiltrated the Militia, they should at least muzzle 
you, because you are giving the movement a very bad name.

Ken



Arleen?



> 
> In article <845785110$19494@atype.com>, knbell 
> writes:
> 
> > In the Gospel according to St. John, 8th Chapter, 42nd
> >Verse, speaking to the Jews: "Jesus therefore said to them, If God were
> >your Father, you would indeed love me...Why do you not know my speech?
> >Because you can not hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and
> >the desires of your father you will do. He was a man killer from the
> >beginning and he stood not in the truth; because the truth is not in him.
> 
> >When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar, and the
> 
> >father thereof."
> 
> GONG! ken looses on theological exegesis (that's interpretation of
> scripture, for all you nazi types):
> The passage in question is taken out of context by ken, (was this a
> surprise to anyone?) and actually consists of a small part of a larger
> conversation in which Jesus is making the point that *Faith*, rather than
> inherentence, is the prerequisite for Salvation.  bad attempt, ken - as
> long as you only reference documents made up by fellow nazis, you at least
> have the out of claiming that either, you, they, or both, were
> intentionally lied to by your masters.  When you start attempting
> scriptural interpretation, however, you are not only out of your league,
> but are patently offensive in your distortions.  as I've pointed out
> before - there is no Christianity in the identity movement, and any
> attempt to pass their dogma as valid in *this* newsgroup *will* fail.
> 
> Arlin H. Adams


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Dear Arleen?,

While you are getting by on your "disability" pension, you might try to 
improve your reading comprehension by taking an elementary course in that 
subject...and take a vacation from the internet.

You cite St. Paul's Epistle to the Galatioans, Chapter 3, Verses 27 and 
28. Here is what St.Paul said: "For as many of you who have been baptized 
in Christ, have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is 
neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. How Arleen? do 
you fit "Race" into that??? You not only re-write history, you even have 
the effrontery to attempt to re-write the Bible. You have founded a new 
religion: Arleenanity. Such inanity!

Pleasant Bible studies,
Ken


AHABIZ wrote:
> 
> In article <845679870$13132@atype.com>, thebok@dreamon.com (The Bok)
> writes:
> 
> > Arlin blames his "Christianity" for his belief in Human
> >Equality, but regardless for the so-called reasons for his delusions,
> >he is pushing a philosophy which leads to a raceless, classless and
> >sexless society. If all people are equal, then women are equal to men
> >and blacks are equal to Whites and nations are only lines on a map.
> 
> bopp once again demonstrates his total ignorance concerning Christianity
> (which by the way I do not "blame" for anything).  1.  Indeed, before God,
> neither race, class, nor gender matter one whit (Galatians 3: 27-28)
> however, how bopp comes up with a "sexless" society is entirely
> unexplained.  I think what we actually have here is the basic nazi fear of
> the fact that CM units contain both men and women, and that we accept all
> persons regardless of race or ethnic background...what if the person who
> shoots them isn't a white male?? my, wouldn't that be embarassing for
> their relatives??
> 
> Arlin H. Adams


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AHABIZ wrote:
> 
> In article <845690588$14066@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
> writes:
> 
> >I'm not Identity,
> 
> then what are you?
> 
> >but I have read some of their material, and although I
> >don't agree with any semitic religion, it's nothing more than the Jew's
> game
> >turned around.
> 
> no, it's a simpleminded attempt to pervert Christianity into a distorted
> travesty which might be sold to the gullible as being somehow related to
> the original.
> 
> Arlin H. Adams

Last week I questioned as to who and what Arleen? was. One who posted 
1400 messages to the militia newsgroup and held many ideas quite opposed 
to those of our Founding Fathers even though she calls herself a member 
of a constitutional militia, was suspect in my opinion as a 
hired babysitter by a group such as the ADL or JDL. Despite the 
impassioned denials, disclaimers, and heartrending assertions, "I'm only 
a poor little old disabled veteran with a lot of time and no money, etc, 
etc., gag, choke." 

Now another clue as to what she is seeps out from her posting above. 
Arleen is a religious bigot! Identity Christians attempt in a 
simple-minded way to pervert Chritianity. Is this another sign of the 
constitutional militia-person, religious intolerance? Question: what 
constitution are they protecting? Certainly not the American Constitution 
that guarantees Freedom of Speech and Religion in the First Amendment 
thereof.

Let's look at this another way. Here is a penniless disabled war veteran 
(what war? what army?) using one of the most expensive netservers, AOL, 
to make 1,400 postings over the last several months. She attacks me for 
espousing the separation of the races in this country as the most viable 
option for protecting the existance of my White race. In this area, 
Arleen? is squarely in the camp of the Jews, who preach diversity for the 
goyim. 

But now, attacking the Identity Christians as a "simple-minded perversion 
of Christianity"!? Doesn't Arleen? know that the number one group on the 
ADL's HATE(HIT) list is Identity Christianity. Doesn't she know that the 
Weaver attrocity was perpetrated because they were Identity 
Christians?? And the persecution of the Freemen because they were 
Identity Christians??

Keep posting Arleen? We'll get to the bottom of you yet!

Best wishes for even more revealing postings,
Ken


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Arleen? is knit-picking as usual:

Arleen?, you are using the traditional nizi debating techniques which you 
have apparently well learned from your mentor and partner in crime Oi 
McVey, the Nizi of the big mouth. Your debating techniques consist of 
first asking for sources; when they are given, you ask for 
qualifications; whatever they are, they are not good enough if the idea 
advanced differs from your pre-ordained Nizi opinion; or if by chance, 
the qualifications advanced are indisputable, then you say we have taken 
it out of context, have distorted it, have misinterpreted it, etc., ad 
nauseam. I have already posted an article from the Encyclopedia Britanica 
to which you made no response. Accordingly I am taking the liberty of 
re-posting my article in hopes that it will settle the argument in the 
favor of truth, or if not that you will successfully refute it...in which 
case I shall stand corrected. OK Nizi Arleen? Here goes for the 2nd time:

  You seem to denigrate any mention of Race to ignorant, hateful
  minds not worth noticing let alone discoursing with. You  state in so  
  many words that Race=Skin Color. By this
  statement you relegate practically an entire science to
  the ashcan: the Science of Anthropology.

  Let me quote part of what the Encyclopedia Brittanica had
  to say on the subject of "Negro" (11Ed., Vol.XIX, P.344):
  "The colour of the skin, which is also distinguished by a
  velvety surface and a characteristic odour, is due not to
  the presence of any special pigmant, but to the greater
  abundance of the colouring matter in the Malpighian mucus
  membrane between the inner or true skin and the epidermis
  or scarf skin. This coloring matter is not distributed
  equally over the body, and does not reach its fullest
  development until some week after birth; so that new-born
  babies are of reddish chocolate or copper colour. But
  excess of pigmentation is not confined to the skin; spots
  of pigment are often found in some of the internal organs,
  such as the liver, spleen, etc. Other characteristics
  appear to be a hypertrophy [abnormally large, ED.]of the
  organs of excretion, a more developed venous system, and a
  less voluminous brain, as compared with the white races.

  In certain of the characteristics mentioned above the
  negro would appear to stand on a lower evolutionary plane
  than the white man, and to be more closely related to the
  highest anthropoids [monkeies, ED]. The characteristics
  are length of arm, prognathism, a heavy massive cranium
  with large zygomatic arches, flat nose depressed at base,
  etc.

  Mentally the negro is inferior to the white. The remark of
  F. Manetta, made after a long study of the negro in
  America, may be taken as generally true of the whole race:
  "the negro children were sharp, intelligent and full of
  vivacity, but on approaching the adult period a gradual
  change set in. The intellect seemed to become clouded,
  animation giving place to a sort of lethargy, briskness
  yielding to indolence. We must necessarily suppose that
  the development of the negro and white proceeds on
  different lines. While with the latter, the volume of the
  brain grows with the expansion of the brainpan, in the
  former the growth of the brain is arrested by the
  premature closing of the cranial sutures and lateral
  pressure on the frontal bone."

 In anticipation of your question, Why is no mention of  these things
 made in the current edition of the Britanica?, I refer you  to Mr.
 Orwell's book,"1984". Specific topic: The memory hole.

Now don't come back and say the Britanica was a Nazi rag, or written by 
Nazi sympathizers, or distorted by a "racist" sociological setting, or 
any of the other slop and nauseating garbage so typical of your postings.
Let's just stick to the subject and address the article point by point. 

Hopefully,
Ken


The Bok wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 19 Oct 96 18:18:04 GMT, ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) wrote:
> 
> >
> >In article <845719462$16246@atype.com>, thebok@dreamon.com (The Bok)
> >writes:
> >
> >>>professor of what? where? and credentials (if any)?  Sooner or later,
> >ian,
> >>>you're going to realize that this sort of nazi nonsense only sells over
> >on
> >>>- what was that that kid called your newsgroup?  oh
> >>>yeah...alt.politics.white-powder....
> >>>
> >>>Arlin H. Adams
> >>
> >>
> >>The good Prof. Lynn was the writer of the article. I have the issue of
> >>AR and it states that:
> >>
> >>1. A.R. Jensen. How much can we boost IQ and scholastic achievement?
> >>   Harvard Educational Review, 39, 449-483.
> >>2. R.A. Weinburg, S. Scarr & I.D. Waldman. The Minnesota transracial
> >>adoption study: A follow up of IQ test performance of adolescence.
> >>   INTELLIGENCE, 1992, 117-135.
> >
> >
> >That still doesn't say anything about Mr. Lynn's qualifications to
> >interpret the data he's reviewing...now where is he a professor, where did
> >he earn his doctorate, in what, and what are his other publications?
> >
> >Arlin H. Adams
> ---------
> Perhaps you missed the above mentioned references.  Maybe if your
> interest was truly in seaking the truth on such an important matter,
> you could get the references yourself. That is if you are interested
> and are qualified to interpret the data.
> 
> The article mentions that Prof. Lynn is professor of psychology at the
> University of Ulser, Coleraine, Northern Ireland.
> 
> There are three additional references in addition to the above
> mentioned citation. They are:
> 
> 3. S.Scarr and R.A. Weinberg. IQ test performance of black children
> adopted by white Americans. American Psychologist, 1976, 54, 260-267
> 
> 4. R.Lynn. The role of nutrition in the secular increaseof
> intelligance. Personality and Individual Differences, 1990, 11,
> 273-286.
> 
> 5. J. Day Population Projections of United States by Age, Sex, Race
> and Hispanic Origin: 1992-2050. Washington, D.C.: Bureau of the
> Census.


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Arleen?
I have posted this article to you before, but you have never answered it 
much less attempted to refute it. I request a point by point response, 
not your usual evasions such as: The Britanica is known for its Nazi 
views; the writers involved were Nazi oriented; the sociological epoch 
when this was written was Racist. just point by point objectivity. None 
of your usual buzzwords or deprecating invective. OK???

You denigrate any mention of Race to ignorant, hateful
minds not worth noticing let alone discoursing with. You
state in so many words that Race=Skin Color. By this
statement you relegate practically an entire science to
the ashcan: the Science of Anthropology.

Let me quote part of what the Encyclopedia Brittanica had
to say on the subject of "Negro" (11Ed., Vol.XIX, P.344):
"The colour of the skin, which is also distinguished by a
velvety surface and a characteristic odour, is due not to
the presence of any special pigmant, but to the greater
abundance of the colouring matter in the Malpighian mucus
membrane between the inner or true skin and the epidermis
or scarf skin. This coloring matter is not distributed
equally over the body, and does not reach its fullest
development until some week after birth; so that new-born
babies are of reddish chocolate or copper colour. But
excess of pigmentation is not confined to the skin; spots
of pigment are often found in some of the internal organs,
such as the liver, spleen, etc. Other characteristics
appear to be a hypertrophy [abnormally large, ED.]of the
organs of excretion, a more developed venous system, and a
less voluminous brain, as compared with the white races.

In certain of the characteristics mentioned above the
negro would appear to stand on a lower evolutionary plane
than the white man, and to be more closely related to the
highest anthropoids [monkeies, ED]. The characteristics
are length of arm, prognathism, a heavy massive cranium
with large zygomatic arches, flat nose depressed at base,
etc.

Mentally the negro is inferior to the white. The remark of
F. Manetta, made after a long study of the negro in
America, may be taken as generally true of the whole race:
"the negro children were sharp, intelligent and full of
vivacity, but on approaching the adult period a gradual
change set in. The intellect seemed to become clouded,
animation giving place to a sort of lethargy, briskness
yielding to indolence. We must necessarily suppose that
the development of the negro and white proceeds on
different lines. While with the latter, the volume of the
brain grows with the expansion of the brainpan, in the
former the growth of the brain is arrested by the
premature closing of the cranial sutures and lateral
pressure on the frontal bone."

In anticipation of your question, Why is no mention of
these things made in the current edition of the
Britanica?, I refer you to Mr. Orwell's book,"1984". Specific topic: the 
memory hole.

Happy research,
Ken


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The Burning Man wrote:
> 
> brs1478@aol.com (BRS 1478) wrote:
> 
> hawkiye@vv.cta.com (hawkiye@vv.cta.com (Blayne)) wrote:
> 
> Why are crying out for George Washington?  Remember, he was a racist!
> He wouldn't have given tobacco spit for a race-mixer and neither would
> have Abe Lincoln.   Those were real patriots, defenders of their kin,
> rather than these multiracialists who run around waving the Founders'
> Constitution and claiming to be patriots.
> 
> Even primitive aborigines have more responsibility to the preservation
> of their own kind than some of these people do.  It's a shame.  But
> the White race is going to fight for its liberation regardless.
> 
> Brian Smith
> 
> **********************************************
> You've got no claim to the 'White Race'. Remember, that
> All Men Are Created Equal (regardless of race or religion),
> are endowed with certain inalienable rights.
> 
> As for you, just get the hell out of this newsgroup. There
> is no tolerance here for Nazis, Fascists, 'White Power' advocates,
> KKK (and their friends in the FBA/BATF/CIA/DEA). These are all the
> enemies of the Militia and the free people of America.

Why don't you address the argument of Mr. Smith above instead of spewing 
out obnoxious abuse on a man who thinks. You have been on this post long 
enough to know what George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Abraham 
Lincoln thought about Race. Yet you see no contradiction in indigting 
their ideas along with ours, even though you hypocritically claim to be 
defending the Constitution of our Founding Fathers. 

When we say there is abundant evidence that the negro's brain is about 
3/4 the weight of the White man's brain, there is also abundant evidence 
>from  the way you argue that your brain in weight and effectiveness is 
about half of that of the average negro's. If you are White you are a 
disgrace to the Race. 

Happy ranting,
Ken


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Dean Peet wrote:

Slop as usual.

Nobody on our side of the argument has called anyone sub-human. But, by 
your postings, your deliberate distortions, slanders, and outright lies 
you are obviously a Jew, and you write in a sub-human way. Prove to the 
real Militia men on this post that you are not sub-human!

There you go. Prove it!

Happy puzzling,
Ken


> 
> Bill K.  wrote in article
> <845850814$24081@atype.com>...
> 
> > Hey, Fed boyz, *I* want a job trolling.  This isn't fair.  I have to pay
> > for my net access, nobody congratulates me when I stir up a sh*t fight,
> > and I get no publicity, promotion, or congressional funding increases for
> > posting here.
> >
> > Watch, watch, I can troll under cover too, watch:
> >
> > (begin "balanced" nazi sympathizer talk from a Fed troller here)
> 
> > (end "balanced" nazi sympathizer talk from a Fed troller here)
> >
> > There, see?!  I can pretend like I am a white racist and troll the net
> > looking for more people who don't belong on MAM but who make great
> > additions to out-of-context bytestreams for the media buffoons and
> > statist lapdogs.  Please??
> 
> Give it up, Bill.  You can read, so that leaves you out.  You think for
> yourself, you don't think that some people really aren't human, you don't
> even have to be told what to do.  What were you thinking? You're just not
> cut out to be a Nazi...
> 
> Dean
> 
> "Honey, we're all out of toilet paper-- run to the store and get some more
> Nazis"


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AHABIZ wrote:
> 
> In article <845868805$26408@atype.com>, mckinney@usaor.net (Ian McKinney)
> writes:
> 
> >Additionally, with regard to Poland, my father-in-law tells me that he
> worked
> >with a Polish Jew, who told him that the Poles did their own
> "negotiating"
> >with their Jews and were rounding them up BEFORE Germany invaded Poland.
> 
> there is no historical evidence to support this statement.
> 
> Arlin H. Adams

No Arleen? the Poles loved their Jews before the War. That's why they 
protected them in Ghettos. They treasured them there! Now tell me another 
one!

Happy documenting,
Ken


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AHABIZ wrote:
> 
> In article <845893083$28294@atype.com>, Kaa Byington
>  writes:
> 
> > Your forgeries collapse from their own internal contradictions, as
> >somebody else said about something else.
> 
> LOL! well, you know how it is Kaa - if the racists worried about internal
> consistency they wouldn't have any justification at all...and of course
> they don't, but the LAST thing they're going to do is acknowledge their
> ignorance and hypocrisy in public...their masters wouldn't like that at
> ALL...remember these guys run their organizations entirely on fear, hatred
> and lies.
> 
> Arlin


Arleen? Like most Jews, you judge others as though they were yourselves. 
The father of the Jews is the father of lies as I tried to explain to you 
yesterday. The devil is also the father of hatred and fear. That's why 
you Jews are such purveyors of hate. Now you've got a couple of your girl 
friends to chime in with your ranting, and by that tactic you are trying 
to divert attention from the fact that no true Militia men are supporting 
you. They are ignoring you and Janet and Lizza (what's that short for, 
lizard?).

Happy Nizing,
Ken


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Arleen? Adams? Nizi likspittle!

You zapped the whole Britanica article instead of attempting to refute it 
so true Militia men could not see it and draw their own conclusions. 

You whine that the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Britanica is 100 
years old and therefore outdated. Is that the point by point debate I 
demanded? 

FYI the 11th Edition was in current use until the 1967 Edition came 
out.That's 30 years honey, not 100. But your propensity to exaggerate and 
to lie is not even the isssue here.

The point of the Article, which I am reproducing below is that Negroes 
have substantially smaller brains, on average, than White men. Negro 
skulls are thicker, their cranial structure is more primitive, and their 
cranial sutures fuse at an earlier age than is the case with Whites.

This is not racist theory but scientific fact, which has been carefully 
observed in thousands of autopsies and comparative anatomical studies.

All this leads up to the Article's key sentence and conclusion: "Mentally 
the Negro is inferior to the White".

That fact was recognized by the Ancient Romans and acted upon. They used 
their Nubian slaves for grossly physical service such as fanning their 
guests with ostrich feathers as they dined at their lavish banquets. They 
used the best of their Greek slaves to tutor their sons. 

Come on Arleen? Nizi lickspittle...tell the Militia where the great 
Encyclopedia Britanica went wrong. Sing them the old Jewish song 
Race=Skin-Color. If you repeat that BIG LIE often enough you will find 
some fatuous enough to believe it. But the White men of the Militia are 
independent thinkers. Don't think you Nizis are clever enough to 
manipulate them for long.

Here is the Article: don't zap it again because if you do, I'll continue 
to reprint it. Lets hear some of your great erudition you phony Nizi 
slop-mouth. We are all waiting.

Arleen?
I have posted this article to you before, but you have never answered it
much less attempted to refute it. I request a point by point response,
not your usual evasions such as: The Britanica is known for its Nazi
views; the writers involved were Nazi oriented; the sociological epoch
when this was written was Racist. just point by point objectivity. None
of your usual buzzwords or deprecating invective. OK???

You denigrate any mention of Race to ignorant, hateful
minds not worth noticing let alone discoursing with. You
state in so many words that Race=Skin Color. By this
statement you relegate practically an entire science to
the ashcan: the Science of Anthropology.

Let me quote part of what the Encyclopedia Brittanica had
to say on the subject of "Negro" (11Ed., Vol.XIX, P.344):
"The colour of the skin, which is also distinguished by a
velvety surface and a characteristic odour, is due not to
the presence of any special pigmant, but to the greater
abundance of the colouring matter in the Malpighian mucus
membrane between the inner or true skin and the epidermis
or scarf skin. This coloring matter is not distributed
equally over the body, and does not reach its fullest
development until some week after birth; so that new-born
babies are of reddish chocolate or copper colour. But
excess of pigmentation is not confined to the skin; spots
of pigment are often found in some of the internal organs,
such as the liver, spleen, etc. Other characteristics
appear to be a hypertrophy [abnormally large, ED.]of the
organs of excretion, a more developed venous system, and a
less voluminous brain, as compared with the white races.

In certain of the characteristics mentioned above the
negro would appear to stand on a lower evolutionary plane
than the white man, and to be more closely related to the
highest anthropoids [monkeies, ED]. The characteristics
are length of arm, prognathism, a heavy massive cranium
with large zygomatic arches, flat nose depressed at base,
etc.

Mentally the negro is inferior to the white. The remark of
F. Manetta, made after a long study of the negro in
America, may be taken as generally true of the whole race:
"the negro children were sharp, intelligent and full of
vivacity, but on approaching the adult period a gradual
change set in. The intellect seemed to become clouded,
animation giving place to a sort of lethargy, briskness
yielding to indolence. We must necessarily suppose that
the development of the negro and white proceeds on
different lines. While with the latter, the volume of the
brain grows with the expansion of the brainpan, in the
former the growth of the brain is arrested by the
premature closing of the cranial sutures and lateral
pressure on the frontal bone."

In anticipation of your question, Why is no mention of
these things made in the current edition of the
Britanica?, I refer you to Mr. Orwell's book,"1984". Specific topic: the
memory hole.

Happy research,
Ken


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Lissa Valerian wrote:

 On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, Kaa Byington wrote:
>
> > pcosenza@gpu.com wrote:
> > >
> > >Q: What do ya call 100 lesbians with assault weapons?      The Reno-Hillary Brigade
> > >
> >
> > I don't get it.

Youre slow!


> Hey, I love it!  I think it would be cool to see gays and *constitutional*
> militias joining together to get the Government off our backs!  The
> government has *NO* business dictating our personal liberties, and what
> two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes! Lissa

Hey Lizard,

Which of our Founding Fathers advocated faggotry and Baby Murder? The
Militia is out to protect traditional morality and American values. Since
when is sodomy, pedophilia, abortion, and other forms of degeneracy part
of that picture.

Happy squirming,
Ken


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AHABIZ wrote:
> 
> In article <845904783$28642@atype.com>, Charles Winters 
> writes:
> 
> >Some of those who write against a multi-racial militia seem quite
> intelligent and
> >polite.
> 
> politely spoken lies are still lies, Charles.
> 
> >  Some who advocate a racially mixed militia stoop to name calling and
> outright
> >profanity.
> 
> When those polite liars whose entire argument is based on forgeries,
> ignorance, and fear refuse to accept any evidence presented to counter
> them, while continuing to espouse treasonous actions then the only option
> left open is to drive them away.
> 
> >This is an important subject simply because so many people claim to
> >represent volunteer units that are racist in nature, i.e., they open
> exclude
> >all except a narrow segment of society, typically white or Christian or
> both.
> 
> ?So many?  Of whom do you speak?  As long as local control remains one of
> our central principles, there will inevitably be some homogenous units in
> those areas (mostly rural) where such homogeneity reflects their local
> community.  NONE THE LESS There is NO room for debate on the issue of
> equal rights for ALL persons, as set forth in the Constitution and the
> Bill of Rights.  Make no mistake - we have no intention of *ever* sitting
> down at *any* table with the neonazis or their white supremacist
> brotheren.  Nor should any unit which so allies itself expect support for
> its actions from Constitutional forces.
> 
> Sorry Charles, but sometimes compromise is NOT possible.
> 
> Arlin H. Adams

Particularly when your position is indefensible. No willingness to debate 
is de facto denial of free speech. It is totalitarian un-American and 
anti-Militia. 

Who gives you sole authority to interpret the constitution. Where do you 
get your erroneous interpretation? From the jew-ridden supreme soviet 
euphemised as the supreme court?

Now we have to deal with Arleen? the great jurist and constitutional 
interpretrix.

Ken


Regards
Ken


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The Burning Man wrote:
> 
> >
> > As for you, just get the hell out of this newsgroup. There
> > is no tolerance here for Nazis, Fascists, 'White Power' advocates,
> > KKK (and their friends in the FBA/BATF/CIA/DEA). These are all the
> > enemies of the Militia and the free people of America.
> 
> Why don't you address the argument of Mr. Smith above instead of
> spewing out obnoxious abuse on a man who thinks. You have been on this
> post long  enough to know what George Washington, Thomas Jefferson,
> and Abraham Lincoln thought about Race. Yet you see no contradiction
> in indigting their ideas along with ours, even though you
> hypocritically claim to be defending the Constitution of our Founding
> Fathers.
> 
> When we say there is abundant evidence that the negro's brain is about
> 
> 3/4 the weight of the White man's brain, there is also abundant
> evidence from the way you argue that your brain in weight and
> effectiveness is about half of that of the average negro's. If you are
> White you are a disgrace to the Race.
> 
> Happy ranting,
> Ken
> 
> Yes, I can see you've got some basic problems with "the way I argue".
> Seems it isn't going very well for you White Supremacist types.
> You bunch of losers never have been able to get it together have
> you? Better stay in the woods where you belong.

I am going to use the paragraph above as an excellent example of the 
jewish approach to debate. Heap calumny upon calumny until you have so 
obfuscated the basic argument to such an extent that those with a short 
attention span may think you're right.

Ken


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PGISSource wrote:
> 
> In article <845935468$2319@atype.com>, ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
> 
> >In article <845924617$358@atype.com>, sbrian@micron.net (Brian Smith)
> >writes:
> >
> >>What Arlin fails to mention is that the article HASN'T yet been
> >>refuted!
> >
> >you missed the point brian (was anyone surprised?)
> 
> What, that a poorly educated commie should miss the point? no surprise at
> all.
> 
> >the article is no longer based on anything resembling current
> >scientific findings - the entire article is outdated..
> 
> heck, Arlin. Commies are outdated. Just look at their suits for proof.
> :-)
> 
> >one doesn't refute antiques, brian, simply because one doesn't
> >have to do so.
> 
> funny how they keep drawing from about the same time as the commie
> revolutions, isn't it?
> 
> Mr. Wizard

Dear WIL (Wizard of Illogic) [So you won't miss the point]

The article was refutued when, where, by whom, what credentials, etc.???

Why won't you address the issue. Afraid Militiamen might learn something 
politically incorrect. I thought free debate was a part of free speech.

Let's start WIL.

We're waiting for you or Arleen?.

Happy reearch,
Ken


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AHABIZ wrote:
> 
> In article <845949846$4095@atype.com>, knbell 
> writes:
> 
> > Like most Jews, you judge others as though they were yourselves.
> 
> HEY DAVID!  the nazis just made me an honorary Jewish person!  Does this
> mean I have to learn Yiddish?

It sure would help you communicate with your Nizi bosses.

 
> >The father of the Jews is the father of lies as I tried to explain to you
> 
> >yesterday.
> 
> No, the one your masters serve, even to the point of blood sacrifice, is
> the father of all lies.  That is one of the reasons your masters lie to
> you - they mimick *they're* master.

I am no Nizi jew-Marxist like you. I do not serve any "masters".

> > The devil is also the father of hatred and fear.
> 
> Which is why your masters use that hatred and fear to control you.

Wrong again. See above.
 
> > That's why you Jews are such purveyors of hate.
> 
> The only hatred I've seen purveyed here has been by white supremacists,
> along with boastful ignorance, fear, and a general lack of any glimmer of
> truth.

You do not see any hate because it comes spewing out of your mouth like 
diarrhea.

> > Now you've got a couple of your girl friends to chime in with your
> ranting,
> 
> Oh dear! it really offends you that there are *women* contradicting you,
> doesn't it?  Do you feel threatened by them?  That 'master race' line
> doesn't get you many dates, does it?  much less 'girl friends'.  Here are
> a few of hints: 1.  Unlike nazis, adult militia members only associate
> with other adults (translation: one of the reasons people look at you
> nazis so strangely is that you keep trying to date 14 year olds).  2. We
> in the Constitutional Militias respect people regardless of gender - that
> means that women are considered *equals* and operate *independently*.  

Your problem is you respect "gender" even if you don't know which kind 
for sure. Do you let homos and dykes in. What genders are those. Lissa 
[Lizard] says she welcomes "gays" to fight alongside Militiamen for 
freedom. I wonder how many Militiamen support that one? 

Militiamen I know do not accept women for combat, let alone Lesies. Maybe 
the Nizi militia does. 

> other words, they are *posting* independently...oh hey, wait a minute -
> that's right!  you netnazis have to fake all of your female posts!  well
> no wonder this upsets you!  3.  Many of our units include trained heavily
> armed women militia members - should the day come that you venture out to
> try our mettle, you could very well die at the hands of a woman...and
> remember, we don't discriminate about race, either, so there's a good
> chance it wont be a caucasian woman either...do you think you'll still go

I'm sure the only women you'll attract will be the Negro does.

> to serve you spiritual masters if that happens to you?  How do you feel
> about that?

Much the same as I feel about all the slop you write. 

> > and by that tactic you are trying
> >to divert attention from the fact that no true Militia men are supporting
> 
> >you.
> 
> kid, ALL of the Constitutional Militias support equal rights
> policies...remember you were being successfully rebutted by for almost TWO
> WEEKS before either Janet or Lissa (note correct spelling, if you can)


> showed up on the newsgroup.  You know your masters were lying to you about
> that electro-shock stuff - it may give you a rush, but it really can
> damage your memory, especially in the long term.
> 
> >They are ignoring you and Janet and Lizza (what's that short for,
> >lizard?).
> 
> s-u-r-e they are...that's why you got slam dunked from about 6 different
> directions when you first tried to spread lies about me...face it kid, you
> and the other nazis have failed miserably here...now you will have to pay
> the penalties your masters extract for failure - how do you feel about
> that?  Especially when you remember who *their* master is....

Better change the stuff you're smoling. You are really dreaming now. You 
talk about refuting arguments. Why don't you step up to the plate and 
refute the Britanica article I have repeatedly posted and which you have 
zapped so that the real Militia on this site never have the chance to 
read the truth. You don't have a clue how to refute it except to say that 
its old and outdated. So is 2+2, it still equals 4 now just as it did in 
Caesaar's time. 

But I'll make one prediction: you will either address the Article point 
by point or whatever slight credibility you may still have in this 
newsgroup will disappear. I promise you, Nizi, Marxist paid Agent, 
Arleen? Adams?

Does Berlitz have a course in Yiddish. If so you're in luck.

Happy yidding, Kid,
Ken

> 
> Arlin H. Adams


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AHABIZ wrote:
> 
> In article <845853523$24541@atype.com>, brs1478@aol.com (BRS 1478) writes:
> 
> >So now you're saying a racially diverse society is more stable than a
> >homogenous one?
> 
> racial and ethnic diversity are not the central issues in considering
> social stability brian, that's just a lie your masters tell you.  The
> primary concern is how coherent and cohesive the *culture* or cultures
> within the society are, which determines social stability.
> 
> >That is a ridiculous position.  A diverse society is
> >fundamentally at odds with itself, is pulled apart by racial polarity,
> and
> >breaks down faster than a homogenous society as a result.
> 
> there is no such thing as racial polarity, brian.  That is a nonsense
> concept your masters use in their indoctrination procedures.  As I've been
> pointing out for a while now, here again is yet another area in which your
> masters have lied to you.  How does it feel, to know you are being lied to
> by those to whom you are giving blind obedience?
> 
> > However, a
> >racially homogenous society is more efficient and harmonious because of
> >the natural bonds of kin that exist.   Kind of like an extended family.
> 
> there is NO proof for this statement...again, this is simply another
> example of how your masters make their "facts" up out of whole cloth.
> 
> >>>The highest and most advanced expression occurs between those most
> >>similar of course.
> >
> >>another unwarranted and unsubstantiated assumption on your part.
> >
> >So now you claim two strangers communicate better than friends of 10
> >years?  Err, right....
> 
> neither friends nor strangers need to be of any specific race to either
> establish or fail to establish communication.  More to the point - I will
> communicate much more completely with another member of the Constitutional
> Militias, whatever the race of that militia member might be, than I will
> with a caucasian from another culture.  Similarities or differences in
> *culture* are the critical issue once again - that's why you nazoids can
> communicate with the Nation of Islam folks...equivalent cultures...ooh, I
> bet that one stung, didn't it?
> 
> >>why, out of 260 million Americans, there must be a whole two or three
> >>thousand of you...guess what, brian?  that makes you statistically
> >>insignificant...which is what everyone on this newsgroup has been
> >>attempting to tell you nazoids for two weeks now...cheez you guys are
> >>slow!
> 
> [racist diatribe truncated to reduce nausea]
> 
> > You're no match for biological polarity.  Noone is.
> 
> "biological polarity" doesn't exist.  It's all in what your masters have
> indoctrinated you to believe, brian...how does it feel to know that your
> masters have intentionally trained you to believe in falsehoods?  Have you
> ever considered questioning them as to why they have done this?
> 
> >Then I guess you're just a product of the politically-correct
> >multiracialism of the times.  But let's compare Washington's view
> >(homogeny) and yours (multiracialism) and what each produced.
> 
> LOL!  Hey!  Kaa! mark! j.p.!!! all you antimilitia folks out there! the
> nazis are accusing me of being politically correct!  any of you folks want
> to comment on that??  What a giggle.
> 
> >America under homogeny then was strong, clean, progressive, and White.
> 
> you're editting history on the fly again, brian - America under Washington
> was a socially and racially divided country, over half of the land claimed
> was inhabitted only by Native Americans, the currency was largely
> unconvertable (because it was almost worthless,  Over half of the European
> descended portion of thepopulation was illiterate, and industry was nearly
> non-existant.  Welcome to reality, brian.
> 
> > In contrast, America today under multiracialism is browner, more
> violent,
> >poorer, dirtier by the year and is heading for the third world trashcan.
> 
> America today is the last great superpower, we have an industrial capacity
> second to none, we have rule of law (as opposed to the frontier justice so
> common in Washington's time), our currency is one of *the* global
> standards, our people are literate, and our standard of living is the envy
> of the world.  Facts again, brian...you lose!
> 
> [racist diatribe truncated to reduce nausea]
> 
> > I don't want that race to be destroyed, and I don't care HOW racist that
> sounds to you.
> 
> Oh, I think we are all quite aware you don't care, brian...the point
> however is that you are losing, you will continue to lose, and in the end
> racial supremacist movements will simply become another historical
> footnote.  WE, the nonracist portion of the American population, have you
> so far outnumbered that you have no hope of keeping up.  All you can do is
> huddle in your little compounds, until you either die of old age, or kill
> yourselves off in internecine power struggles....
> 
> Arlin H. Adams

Brian you are winning hands down! you have Arleen? the Nizi-paid 
babysitter frothing at the mouth. The only way she "refutes" one of your 
statements is to delete it and then ignore it. It's really hilarious how 
she goes on. By now I suspect there is a move afoot among Militia men to 
gently ease her off the site. A number of them have e-mailed me they are 
in the process of setting up another site where she'll not be welcome.

Regards, 
Ken


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AHABIZ wrote:
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> In article <845839997$22926@atype.com>, knbell 
> writes:
> 
> > you are using the traditional nizi debating techniques which you
> >have apparently well learned from your mentor and partner in crime Oi
> >McVey, the Nizi of the big mouth.
> 
> first off, you guys really need to get somebody to fedex you your
> information du jour on Sundays... when you try to improvise like this, you
> sound even sillier than usual.  HEY KEN MCVEY!  According to this guy
> you've got a known militia activist on your payroll - ME!...did you know
> that??  If so, how come I'm not getting any money??  (and none of those
> funny maple leaf bills, either mind you!)
> 
> >Your debating techniques consist of
> >first asking for sources; when they are given, you ask for
> >qualifications; whatever they are, they are not good enough if the idea
> >advanced differs from your pre-ordained Nizi opinion; or if by chance,
> >the qualifications advanced are indisputable, then you say we have taken
> >it out of context, have distorted it, have misinterpreted it, etc., ad
> >nauseam.
> 
> indeed and in all cases I've been correct :-)  Now if *that* doesn't tell
> you something about the quality of your material, you have a *serious*
> problem.  You need to stop and ask yourself exactly what is wrong with
> your material that makes it so easy to discredit...then you need to go
> back and ask your masters why they can't come up with anything better...is
> it that they don't have anything better?  Perhaps they *do* have more
> information but don't trust you with it?  I wonder...
> 
> > I have already posted an article from the Encyclopedia Britanica
> >to which you made no response.
> 
> as best I can tell the article in question was from an antique set of
> Britannica...there's a reason your folks were able to pick it up for 10
> bucks at a garage sale, ken - it's outdated...as was the article you
> posted - invalidated by current research, as noted by several other
> posters on this newsgroup.  I take it you don't get your next database
> update until monday?  or did you just loose the encryption key for today,
> and are afraid of what your superiors will do when they find out?  Guess
> what ken?  we know that several of your masters do in fact read this
> newsgroup...so they just found out anyway!  have fun!
> 
> Arlin H. Adams

Arleen? Nizi-paid babysitter:

Here is a reprint of the Article. Refute it point by point. I challenge 
you:

 Come on Arleen? Nizi lickspittle...tell the Militia where the great
> Encyclopedia Britanica went wrong. Sing them the old Jewish song
> Race=Skin-Color. If you repeat that BIG LIE often enough you will find
> some fatuous enough to believe it. But the White men of the Militia are
> independent thinkers. Don't think you Nizis are clever enough to
> manipulate them for long.
>
> Here is the Article: don't zap it again because if you do, I'll continue
> to reprint it. Lets hear some of your great erudition you phony Nizi
> slop-mouth. We are all waiting.
>
> Arleen?
> I have posted this article to you before, but you have never answered it
> much less attempted to refute it. I request a point by point response,
> not your usual evasions such as: The Britanica is known for its Nazi
> views; the writers involved were Nazi oriented; the sociological epoch
> when this was written was Racist. just point by point objectivity. None
> of your usual buzzwords or deprecating invective. OK???
>
> You denigrate any mention of Race to ignorant, hateful
> minds not worth noticing let alone discoursing with. You
> state in so many words that Race=Skin Color. By this
> statement you relegate practically an entire science to
> the ashcan: the Science of Anthropology.
>
> Let me quote part of what the Encyclopedia Brittanica had
> to say on the subject of "Negro" (11Ed., Vol.XIX, P.344):
> "The colour of the skin, which is also distinguished by a
> velvety surface and a characteristic odour, is due not to
> the presence of any special pigmant, but to the greater
> abundance of the colouring matter in the Malpighian mucus
> membrane between the inner or true skin and the epidermis
> or scarf skin. This coloring matter is not distributed
> equally over the body, and does not reach its fullest
> development until some week after birth; so that new-born
> babies are of reddish chocolate or copper colour. But
> excess of pigmentation is not confined to the skin; spots
> of pigment are often found in some of the internal organs,
> such as the liver, spleen, etc. Other characteristics
> appear to be a hypertrophy [abnormally large, ED.]of the
> organs of excretion, a more developed venous system, and a
> less voluminous brain, as compared with the white races.
>
> In certain of the characteristics mentioned above the
> negro would appear to stand on a lower evolutionary plane
> than the white man, and to be more closely related to the
> highest anthropoids [monkeies, ED]. The characteristics
> are length of arm, prognathism, a heavy massive cranium
> with large zygomatic arches, flat nose depressed at base,
> etc.
>
> Mentally the negro is inferior to the white. The remark of
> F. Manetta, made after a long study of the negro in
> America, may be taken as generally true of the whole race:
> "the negro children were sharp, intelligent and full of
> vivacity, but on approaching the adult period a gradual
> change set in. The intellect seemed to become clouded,
> animation giving place to a sort of lethargy, briskness
> yielding to indolence. We must necessarily suppose that
> the development of the negro and white proceeds on
> different lines. While with the latter, the volume of the
> brain grows with the expansion of the brainpan, in the
> former the growth of the brain is arrested by the
> premature closing of the cranial sutures and lateral
> pressure on the frontal bone."
>
> In anticipation of your question, Why is no mention of
> these things made in the current edition of the
> Britanica?, I refer you to Mr. Orwell's book,"1984". Specific topic: the
> memory hole.
>
> Happy research,
> Ken


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Dear WIL [wizard of illogic]

Your friend Arleen?, you know the Nizi babysitter has been unable to 
attack my article which you have characterized as a college joke, except 
to say that it is outdated and long since scientifically refuted.

Let's see the proof, Wizard, point by point. First let us in to what was 
so humorous about the article: the Negro's peculiar skin odor, his 
enlarged "excretory organs" or what? Or did they consider the size of his 
brain vis a vis his bony skull a hilarious joke?

A lot of militia men out there are waiting for your rebuttal. They want 
facts, not sneers, documentation, not scabrous denunciations, names, 
qualifications. So do I.

 The point of the Article, which I am reproducing below is that Negroes
 have substantially smaller brains, on average, than White men. Negro
 skulls are thicker, their cranial structure is more primitive, and their
 cranial sutures fuse at an earlier age than is the case with Whites.

 This is not racist theory but scientific fact, which has been carefully
 observed in thousands of autopsies and comparative anatomical studies.

 All this leads up to the Article's key sentence and conclusion: 
"Mentally  the Negro is inferior to the White". [In evolutionary stage, 
he stands between the Ape and Man]

 That fact was recognized by the Ancient Romans and acted upon. They used
 their Nubian slaves for grossly physical service such as fanning their
 guests with ostrich feathers as they dined at their lavish banquets.  
They  used the best of their Greek slaves to tutor their sons.

 Come on wizard...tell the Militia where the great
 Encyclopedia Britanica went wrong. Sing them the old Jewish song
 Race=Skin-Color. If you repeat that BIG LIE often enough you will find
 some fatuous enough to believe it. But the White men of the Militia are
 independent thinkers. Don't think you Nizis are clever enough to
 manipulate their thinking forever.

 Wizard,
 
Remember, not the Nizi's usual evasions such as: The Britanica is known 
for its Nazi views; the writers involved were Nazi oriented; the 
sociological epoch  when this was written was Racist. just point by point 
objectivity. None  of your usual buzzwords or deprecating invective. 
OK???

Your moment of truth is at hand!
 
 Let me quote part of what the Encyclopedia Brittanica had
 to say on the subject of "Negro" (11Ed., Vol.XIX, P.344):
 "The colour of the skin, which is also distinguished by a
 velvety surface and a characteristic odour, is due not to
 the presence of any special pigmant, but to the greater
 abundance of the colouring matter in the Malpighian mucus
 membrane between the inner or true skin and the epidermis
 or scarf skin. This coloring matter is not distributed
 equally over the body, and does not reach its fullest
 development until some week after birth; so that new-born
 babies are of reddish chocolate or copper colour. But
 excess of pigmentation is not confined to the skin; spots
 of pigment are often found in some of the internal organs,
 such as the liver, spleen, etc. Other characteristics
 appear to be a hypertrophy [abnormally large, ED.]of the
 organs of excretion, a more developed venous system, and a
 less voluminous brain, as compared with the white races.

 In certain of the characteristics mentioned above the
 negro would appear to stand on a lower evolutionary plane
 than the white man, and to be more closely related to the
 highest anthropoids [monkeies, ED]. The characteristics
 are length of arm, prognathism, a heavy massive cranium
 with large zygomatic arches, flat nose depressed at base,  etc.

 Mentally the negro is inferior to the white. The remark of
 F. Manetta, made after a long study of the negro in
 America, may be taken as generally true of the whole race:
 "the negro children were sharp, intelligent and full of
 vivacity, but on approaching the adult period a gradual
 change set in. The intellect seemed to become clouded,
 animation giving place to a sort of lethargy, briskness
 yielding to indolence. We must necessarily suppose that
 the development of the negro and white proceeds on
 different lines. While with the latter, the volume of the
 brain grows with the expansion of the brainpan, in the
 former the growth of the brain is arrested by the
 premature closing of the cranial sutures and lateral
 pressure on the frontal bone."

 In anticipation of your question, Why is no mention of
 these things made in the current edition of the
 Britanica?, I refer you to Mr. Orwell's book,"1984". Specific topic: the
 memory hole.

 Happy researching,
 Ken

PGISSource wrote:
> 
> In article <845945307$3236@atype.com>, ahabiz@aol.com (AHABIZ) writes:
> 
> >as best I can tell the article in question was from an antique set of
> >Britannica...there's a reason your folks were able to pick it up for 10
> >bucks at a garage sale, ken - it's outdated
> 
> Not only that, Arlin, those Britannica articles are used as standard jokes
> in most college level social geography courses. Then again, for commies
> like have been posting here recently that can't even handle 6th grade
> arithmetic re rapes, I guess even that is a tad beyond their level.
> 
> Mr. Wizard


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Richard Kann wrote:
> 
> Brian Smith wrote:
> >
> > "Bill K."  wrote:
> >
> > >Lord Kano wrote:
> >
> > >> KISS MY BLACK ASS!
> > >>
> > >> Lord Kano
> >
> > And you can bet the multiracialist militia-types WILL!  Why, they'd
> > fall all over themselves for a chance to have their picture taken with
> > a Black man!  Anything to prove their egalitarian righteousness for
> > the press!  *Smoooooooooch!*
> >
> > Brian Smith
> > www.natall.com
> 
> It's people like you that make me wonder if the first amendment deserves
> preserving!
> 
> Rick Kann
> Commander
> 19th Regiment
> Constitutional Militia of Florida

You'll sure find out, boy, once you decided to try to take it away.

Happy playacting,
Ken


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Brian Smith wrote:
> 
> mpitcava@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark T Pitcavage) wrote:
> >>
> >>One of my hobbies is geneology, which involves sorting through old census and
> >>tax records. From my investigations, Blacks were a very small percentage of
> >>the population, at least in my area, even as late as the 1890's. In
> >>point of fact, there were actually more White slaves than Black ones in
> >>America around 1776, and what Blacks that were in America were mostly in the
> >>South at that time. A large proportion of the Blacks now in the North went
> >>there AFTER the Civil War.
> 
> >A) Philadelphia had a sizable black community; see Gary Nash's _Forging
> >Freedom_ for just one exploration of the early republic and antebellum black
> >community there.
> 
> >B) The notion that there were -any- "white slaves" in 1776 is pretty funny.
> 
> No White slaves you say?  Pretty funny notion you say?  Try this on:
> 
> "Hundreds of thousands of Whites in colonial America were owned
> outright by their masters and died in slavery.  White people who were
> passed over for purchase at the point of entry were taken into the
> back country by "soul drivers" who herded them along "like cattle to a
> Smithfield market" and then put them up for auction at public fairs.
> "Prospective buyers felt their muscles, checked their teeth...like
> cattle...."  Contemporary accounts likened them to livestock
> auctions."
> 
> _They Were White And They Were Slaves_, Michael A. Hofffman, at p. 52.
> 
> Guess you're receiving quite an education here, aren't Mr. Pitcavage?
> I can post plenty more if you like!
> 
> Brian Smith
> www.natall.com

Isn't it interesting Brian, that the descendants of those white slaves 
and indentured servants just fitted in and began to rise and to prosper 
like most other White Americans.  They never asked for or expected to 
receive a dime from the government, no affirmative action, no special 
priveleges of any kind. In a word, that's the difference between a White 
man and the Negro.

Best wishes.
Ken


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Arleen?

Either refute the article on its merits ie. brain measurement, skull 
structure, brain quality, etc. or stuff that mouth of your so the slop 
won't keep pouring out. Your cheap jokes are getting stale.

Lets hear something intelligent or just plain shut up.

Happy cogitations,
Ken



AHABIZ wrote:
> 
> In article <845960597$5842@atype.com>, knbell 
> writes:
> 
> >You zapped the whole Britanica article instead of attempting to refute it
> 
> >so true Militia men could not see it and draw their own conclusions.
> >
> >You whine that the 11th Edition of the Encyclopedia Britanica is 100
> >years old and therefore outdated. Is that the point by point debate I
> >demanded?
> 
> Whatever the age of the Britanica edition, you need to check the age of
> the research on which the article was based...then you need to see if you
> in fact *have* the real article (remember your masters give you many,
> many, forgeries) and *then* you have to see if the article still matches
> the results of current research.  Since the answer to the last point is a
> resounding NO, it does not.  This eliminates any possible use of it as an
> authoritative reference.  There is, therefore, nothing to discuss.
> 
>  face it ken - your strawman techniques simply don't work here.
> 
> I keep telling you racists you aren't good enough to control the debate...
> you've got to understand that your masters don't trust you with anything
> beyond rote memorization, you are thus incapable of reason, and therefore
> cannot keep up in a rational debate.  Why do you think your masters have
> put you in this position, ken?  It obviously embarasses you, so why do you
> allow them to do that to you?
> 
> Arlin H. Adams


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AHABIZ wrote:
> 
> In article <846019084$12815@atype.com>, vonluetzow@aol.com (VonLuetzow)
> writes:
> 
> >> > > You zapped the whole Britanica article
> 
> hmm, let's see, the brianazi is fixated on an antique set of britannica
> articles, and the vonluetzow synthenazi reposts the brianazi's rant
> without any header on it, but with *three* sets of message quote markings.
>  Now this could just mean that the synthenazi's bot interface is slipping,
> or that nazis can't even figure out the aol newsreader software, *or* both
> of the above and the brianazi is now identified as the individual behind
> "vonleutzow"...hmm....
> 
> well, you have to give them this much -nazis may be stupid, but they're at
> least consistently stupid....
> 
> Arlin H. Adams

Arleen?

Never mind your inane and childish slams.

Let's hear some refutation of the Britanica article. All you can say is 
its old and outdated. But so is the Bible and we have all heard your 
self-styled brilliant exegesis on that. So how about brain size. And 
skull structure, and brain quality. Or maybe its your contention that 
evolution has over the past 35 years accelerated the negro's development 
and made up for the 200,000 years he was behind the White race.

Let's hear some of your arguments, if you have any, and allow militiamen 
judge the issue for themselves.

Happy ranting,
Ken



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