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Article 21513 of alt.revisionism:
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From: dblack@jbx.com (Don Black)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: http address wanted
Date: Fri, 19 May 95 15:55:46 GMT
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In article <3phepp$5no@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us>,
   rbennett@monarch.papillion.ne.us (Robert Bennett) wrote:
>I currently have http:--www.deltanet.com:ata revisionism as the address I 
>got it second hand. Please give me the correct address.
>

Ernst Zundel's "Voice of Freedom" WWW page is temporarily located at:

http://www.kaiwan.com:80/~greg.ihr/zundel/

Deltanet cancelled his account a couple of weeks ago.


Don Black

dblack@jbx.com, donblack@delphi.com
Stormfront BBS: 407-833-4986   (PO Box 6637, West Palm Beach FL 33405)
White Nationalist Resource Page: http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/


Article 21513 of alt.revisionism:
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From: dblack@jbx.com (Don Black)
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: http address wanted
Date: Fri, 19 May 95 15:55:46 GMT
Organization: Stormfront BBS: 407-833-4986
Lines: 18
Message-ID: <3picis$kdv@jbxl1.jbx.com>
References: <3phepp$5no@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us>
NNTP-Posting-Host: midgard.stormfront.org
X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3

In article <3phepp$5no@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us>,
   rbennett@monarch.papillion.ne.us (Robert Bennett) wrote:
>I currently have http:--www.deltanet.com:ata revisionism as the address I 
>got it second hand. Please give me the correct address.
>

Ernst Zundel's "Voice of Freedom" WWW page is temporarily located at:

http://www.kaiwan.com:80/~greg.ihr/zundel/

Deltanet cancelled his account a couple of weeks ago.


Don Black

dblack@jbx.com, donblack@delphi.com
Stormfront BBS: 407-833-4986   (PO Box 6637, West Palm Beach FL 33405)
White Nationalist Resource Page: http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/


Article 4988 of alt.politics.nationalism.white:
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From: Don Black 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Hate sites shut down
Date: 19 May 1995 12:45:51 GMT
Organization: Stormfront BBS: 407-833-4986
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Message-ID: <3pi3tv$kag@jbxl1.jbx.com>
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Becker@cris.com (Bill_Becker) wrote:
>In article , bosco05@leonardo.net (Yuka Duckworth) wrote:
>>> 
>>> >In a tiny corner of the paper today it mentioned that 3 internet
>>> >sites known for their racist views were shut down recently.
>>> >That is going too far.
>>> 
>>I agree. No Internet should be shut down because of its views. This isa
>>very scary president.
>
>Does anyone know the details of these incidents?
>If this is true, I am going to join a militia.

The AP story originated with a Miami Herald reporter who has been covering 
censorship of "hate" on the Net. After having written a story for Saturday, he got 
up Monday morning and discovered that the Stormfront White Nationalist page had been 
moved to another location, and that two of the links on Stormfront had been shut 
down completely.

One of the two links, Ernst Zundel's "Voice of Freedom," has since been moved to 
another temporary location. The other, run by a student at the University of Texas, 
was reactivated by the university's president after having been closed down in a 
panic. All this apparently resulted from an organized effort by Rabbi Abraham
Cooper of the Simon Wiesenthal Center to pressure Internet providers into cancelling
the accounts of those the Rabbi finds offensive.

I'm sure attempts by Jewish groups to censor the Net will continue. With tens of 
thousands of providers, though, pressure tactics will have only limited effect. 
Government censorship is the ultimate objective, of course. Rabbi Cooper, who 
acknowledges that he has never logged onto the Net, likes to brag about his 
friendship with Al Gore, whom he says is "very concerned" about all this "hate." 
Nevertheless, I suspect the obvious technical problems, combined with the strong 
libertarian sentiment among Net.people, will make government thought control 
unlikely.


Don Black

dblack@jbx.com, donblack@delphi.com
Stormfront BBS: 407-833-4986   (PO Box 6637, West Palm Beach FL 33405)
White Nationalist Resource Page: http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/




Article 3953 of alt.politics.white-power:
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From: Don Black 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Hate sites shut down
Date: 19 May 1995 12:45:51 GMT
Organization: Stormfront BBS: 407-833-4986
Lines: 43
Message-ID: <3pi3tv$kag@jbxl1.jbx.com>
References: <3o83nu$23a@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>  <3or9rn$j0q@warp.cris.com>
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Becker@cris.com (Bill_Becker) wrote:
>In article , bosco05@leonardo.net (Yuka Duckworth) wrote:
>>> 
>>> >In a tiny corner of the paper today it mentioned that 3 internet
>>> >sites known for their racist views were shut down recently.
>>> >That is going too far.
>>> 
>>I agree. No Internet should be shut down because of its views. This isa
>>very scary president.
>
>Does anyone know the details of these incidents?
>If this is true, I am going to join a militia.

The AP story originated with a Miami Herald reporter who has been covering 
censorship of "hate" on the Net. After having written a story for Saturday, he got 
up Monday morning and discovered that the Stormfront White Nationalist page had been 
moved to another location, and that two of the links on Stormfront had been shut 
down completely.

One of the two links, Ernst Zundel's "Voice of Freedom," has since been moved to 
another temporary location. The other, run by a student at the University of Texas, 
was reactivated by the university's president after having been closed down in a 
panic. All this apparently resulted from an organized effort by Rabbi Abraham
Cooper of the Simon Wiesenthal Center to pressure Internet providers into cancelling
the accounts of those the Rabbi finds offensive.

I'm sure attempts by Jewish groups to censor the Net will continue. With tens of 
thousands of providers, though, pressure tactics will have only limited effect. 
Government censorship is the ultimate objective, of course. Rabbi Cooper, who 
acknowledges that he has never logged onto the Net, likes to brag about his 
friendship with Al Gore, whom he says is "very concerned" about all this "hate." 
Nevertheless, I suspect the obvious technical problems, combined with the strong 
libertarian sentiment among Net.people, will make government thought control 
unlikely.


Don Black

dblack@jbx.com, donblack@delphi.com
Stormfront BBS: 407-833-4986   (PO Box 6637, West Palm Beach FL 33405)
White Nationalist Resource Page: http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/




Article 3953 of alt.politics.white-power:
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From: Don Black 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Hate sites shut down
Date: 19 May 1995 12:45:51 GMT
Organization: Stormfront BBS: 407-833-4986
Lines: 43
Message-ID: <3pi3tv$kag@jbxl1.jbx.com>
References: <3o83nu$23a@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>  <3or9rn$j0q@warp.cris.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: midgard.stormfront.org
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Becker@cris.com (Bill_Becker) wrote:
>In article , bosco05@leonardo.net (Yuka Duckworth) wrote:
>>> 
>>> >In a tiny corner of the paper today it mentioned that 3 internet
>>> >sites known for their racist views were shut down recently.
>>> >That is going too far.
>>> 
>>I agree. No Internet should be shut down because of its views. This isa
>>very scary president.
>
>Does anyone know the details of these incidents?
>If this is true, I am going to join a militia.

The AP story originated with a Miami Herald reporter who has been covering 
censorship of "hate" on the Net. After having written a story for Saturday, he got 
up Monday morning and discovered that the Stormfront White Nationalist page had been 
moved to another location, and that two of the links on Stormfront had been shut 
down completely.

One of the two links, Ernst Zundel's "Voice of Freedom," has since been moved to 
another temporary location. The other, run by a student at the University of Texas, 
was reactivated by the university's president after having been closed down in a 
panic. All this apparently resulted from an organized effort by Rabbi Abraham
Cooper of the Simon Wiesenthal Center to pressure Internet providers into cancelling
the accounts of those the Rabbi finds offensive.

I'm sure attempts by Jewish groups to censor the Net will continue. With tens of 
thousands of providers, though, pressure tactics will have only limited effect. 
Government censorship is the ultimate objective, of course. Rabbi Cooper, who 
acknowledges that he has never logged onto the Net, likes to brag about his 
friendship with Al Gore, whom he says is "very concerned" about all this "hate." 
Nevertheless, I suspect the obvious technical problems, combined with the strong 
libertarian sentiment among Net.people, will make government thought control 
unlikely.


Don Black

dblack@jbx.com, donblack@delphi.com
Stormfront BBS: 407-833-4986   (PO Box 6637, West Palm Beach FL 33405)
White Nationalist Resource Page: http://stormfront.wat.com/stormfront/





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