From email@example.com Fri Jul 12 07:00:37 PDT 1996 Article: 49816 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!noc.van.hookup.net!news.jumppoint.com!n2van.istar!van.istar!west.istar!ott.istar!istar.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!Rezonet.net!Vir.com!usenet From: Jean-Francois Beaulieu
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Auschwitz: a secret?- 1 (repost) Date: 11 Jul 1996 23:01:58 GMT Organization: Communications Vir, Internet Access Montreal. Lines: 151 Message-ID: <4s4156$iaa@Vir.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ipdyne35.vir.com Thanks to Alexander Baron, who revided the first page of the text to correct grammatical errors First of all, the usual statement that the Germans have tried to keep secret their extermination policy is completely ridiculous. This 'attempt to preserve the secret' is often used to explain why the high level German documents captured by the Allies refer to the 'Final Solution' as a program for the expulsion of the Jews from Europe. The Auschwitz complex was built close to an important agglomeration. Many ci- vilians worked there during the day and went home in the evening. On page 62 of his 1993 study 'Les Crematoires d'Auschwitz', the anti-Revisionist author Jean-Claude Pressac (who uses German documents) writes: "For the Birkenau cremator- ies, the Germans gave the contracts to 12 civilian enterprises [...] Each working site was employed between 100 and 150 workers, a third of them civilians." The number of ovens was growing with years with the expansion of the camp, and the maintenance was unavoidable. Auschwitz was critical for the Allies: Synthetic rubber production was important for the Americans, and it is not surprising that many air photo missions concerning this camp took place. The huge backwardness of the Americans concerning the fabrication of synthetic rubber after the lost of their usual source in Malaysia in 1941-42 didn't permit them any choice: they had to know everything about Auschwitz, and there's no doubt that they took measures to pick up as much information as possible. We know, that the Americans had broken the German military codes. Over two and a half years there was no mention of mass gassing in any intercept in spite of the Germans being unaware that their codes had been cracked. But there is even more, in 'The Terrible Secret', the Jewish historian Walter Laqueur gives some hints in spite of being no manner of Revisionist. From him we learn (page 25), that Auschwitz was an archipelago, that thousands of inmates were frequently shipped to annex camps, mixed with civilians across Silesia, that hundreds of civilians were working at Auschwitz 1, that journa- lists were travelling freely in this region...This is the same author who says that there were hundreds of liberations in 1942-4, among them several Jews (page 169). But also there were hundreds of escapes in those years! In 'The Final Solution', Reitlinger talks also of a a radio receiver that was active in the inmate barracks over a period of months. Admiral Canaris, chief of the counter-spying agency of the Third Reich, was a double agent. He gave much information to the Allies during the war, but said nothing about alleged mass liquidations at Auschwitz. There was organised resistance in the camps. Groups of communists, Jews and others were able to send information out of the camp. A fairly accurate picture of this resistance is given by the book 'Fighting Auschwitz'. As stated, it was impossible for the Germans to avoid some contacts between the inmates and the local population. Many Poles were, indeed, members of the resistance, and some inmates had conversations with local populations when they were brought out of Auschwitz to execute miscellaneous labour tasks. Sometimes these civilians hid food and for the inmates. Often, the SS in charge of the commandos were faking ignorance about those things in exchange for food or gifts. (See for example Garlinski, 'Fighting Auschwitz', pages 43-5). The contacts with the local population were developed in such a way that letters and parcels could be sent out of the camp by the internal resistant cells of Birkenau and Auschwitz on a regular basis. A group of the Cracovia resistance was in regular touch via letters. In this town were preserved 350 of those letters, 'a small fraction of a very much more important total' (Langbein, 'Hommes et femmes a Auschwitz', page 252). Letters successfully reached the Netherlands also. In spite of this, such records are used to endorse the extermination claim. As Butz pointed out, quoting L. Dawidowicz in her intro- ductory chapter (page 221): "One impediment was inadequacy of Jewish documentation in spite of its enormous quantity... The absence of vital subjects from the records may be explained by the predicament of terror and censorship; yet, lacking evidence to corroborate or disprove, the historian will never know with certainty whether that absence is a consequence of an institutional decision not to deal with such matters or whether it was merely a consequence of prudent policy not to mention such matters. The terror was so great that even private personal diaries, composed in Yiddish or Hebrew, were written circumspectly, with recourse to Scripture and the Talmud as a form of esoteric expression and self-imposed reticence." Garlinski mention also this story about the radio transmitter/receiver which was active over 7 months in 1942 in Auschwitz and due to its contacts, the direction of the Silesia local AK ceil (Armia Krajowa) was soon able to find the wavelength used by the transmitter. (Garlinski, 'Fighting Auschwitz', page 126). The Armia Krajowa, or the interior (or secret) army was formed in 1942 from a previous resistance movement. It was organised like a real army. In 1944 the AK could count on about 300,000 members. In Birkenau there was a secret organisation created in April 1942 by Colonel Karcz. Contact between the Birkenau organisation and the main camp of Auschwitz took place on a daily basis. The main task of the Karcz group was to provide information to the AK elements outside. In 1942 the organisation of W. Pilecki, an ex-Polish officer, could count on 1000 members between Auschwitz and Birkenau (Garlinski, 'Fighting Auschwitz', pages 97-8). In 1942-43 the resistant groups in Auschwitz were so powerful that they controlled the Hospital, the kitchens, the main office and had their agent in key positions. The activity of the resistance in the camp had a specific purpose: feed the Polish government in exile with exhaustive information about the events that were occurring in the Nazi camps. The AK could count also on the complicity of a few SS to transmit some messages outside (Garlinski, 'Fighting Auschwitz', pages 206-8). But often, messages were simply transmitted with the liberation of inmates (Laqueur, 'The Terrible Secret', page 169 and Garlinsi, 'Fighting Auschwitz', pages 54-5 & 112). Communications between Poland and London were relatively easy for the Resis- tance. The general Bor-Komorowski, commandant of the AK, said that clandestine radio messages were regularly transmitted to London and that for the year 1942-43-44, there were almost 300 such messages per month. (T. Bor-Komorowski, 'The secret Army', page 150). Another source of information was the microfilms which were sent to London on a monthly basis. The Polish Resistance had about 100 radio transmitters which were able to reach England. But other messages were brought by newsmongers who were travelling to Sweden (neutral) and then Great Britain. Recently I obtained a copy of one of the most notorious Revisionist pamphlets: 'The Auschwitz Lie', by Thies Christophersen. Christophersen is an ex-German officer who had worked in one of the camps peripheral to Auschwitz: Raisenko. This booklet is not notorious not because one could qualify it as a big scien- tific contribution to Revisionism, it's just a small pamphlet where an officer talks about his personnel experiences, (he visited Birkenau several times in 1944). The notoriety of this pamphlet, published in 1973, is mainly due to a false reference that can be found: a fictive Red Cross report that is supposed to claim that no more than 300,000 Jews died in WWII. Because of that, 'The Auschwitz Lie' received immediately the status of 'Bible of the Revisionists', and one still finds frequent reference in European books or magazine to this pamphlet and this fictive reference with the development (hint as sth): this is the Bible of the Revisionists, it contains a lie, so the Revisionist are just liars and it is a good thing that Revisionist material is banned since the public must be protected against those lies by people who will tell them what they must read. What amazed me the first time I took a look at it wasn't the fact that this false reference was just an isolated one among several others that were valid, it was to see that Christophersen didn't invent it: he just quoted a real Brazilian newspaper that didn't check before publishing this report about the 'Red Cross Report'. Anyway, from Christophersen, we learn that SS families were able to visit the soldiers without any major problems in Auschwitz. We learn too that inmates from Birkenau were frequently shipped to other camps and could establish contact with the local population. This fact, as I said, was subsequently confirmed by the anti-Revisionist historian Laqueur. Now, first statement: Hoess, in his 'confession', supposedly given without any coercion, testified that when Himmler ordered him to establish a program of mass extermination in his camp (a verbal order to keep the secret) he received also instructions not to discuss it with Gluecks, general inspector of the camps, because absolute secrecy was necessary. Can you believe that? From firstname.lastname@example.org Sun Jul 14 14:50:00 PDT 1996 Article: 50258 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!news.nstn.ca!ott.istar!istar.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!Rezonet.net!Vir.com!usenet From: Jean-Francois Beaulieu Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: AN ADMISSION OF PERFIDIOUS GUILT Date: 14 Jul 1996 19:40:16 GMT Organization: Communications Vir, Internet Access Montreal. Lines: 26 Message-ID: <4sbif0$h7e@Vir.com> References: <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> <31E5281C.27A5@gryn.org> <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ipdyne34.vir.com email@example.com (Michael P. Stein) wrote: > You have not disputed the fact that there is physical evidence of dead > bodies at Auschwitz during the same time frame that there was cyanide in > use there. Crematoria. Ashes and bone chips - not as many documented > tons as you asked to see, but lots of 'em. > > Yet you _do_ dispute the existence of physical evidence for cyanide > gassing. You do not need to explain why; I know. > > Now. Pay attention. > Even if one would present me the picture of some people burned, don't know where nor when, documentary proofs that a flight of planes quit england that day, but no documentary proofs that their target was Dresden, some postwar eyewitness testimonies of angry germans who are accusing the U.S. aviation to have done it, a picture taken 30 years after that show that half of the building which were there are no longer there, but other buildings instead, few destructions, if , while examining the german newspapers of that time I would discover that no mention was done in the medias about a bombardment that killed more than 120,000 persons despite the german were eager to use any small bombardment to feed their propaganda, then I would conclude that this bombardment never happened. From firstname.lastname@example.org Wed Jul 31 13:58:40 PDT 1996 Article: 54653 of alt.revisionism Path: nizkor.almanac.bc.ca!news.island.net!news.bctel.net!news1.wtn.mci.net!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!rcogate.rco.qc.ca!Rezonet.net!Vir.com!usenet From: Jean-Francois Beaulieu Newsgroups: alt.revisionism Subject: Re: Wetzel Writes Lohse About The 'Gassing Apparatuses' Date: 31 Jul 1996 00:40:10 GMT Organization: Communications Vir, Internet Access Montreal. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4tma1a$vpa@Vir.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ipdyne71.vir.com email@example.com (Daniel Keren) wrote: > > Letter from Dr. Erhard Wetzel to Reichskommissar Lohse, October 25, 1941 > [Hitler and the Final Solution - G. Fleming, University of California > Press, 1984, p. 70] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > With regard to my letter of 18 October 1941, please be informed that > Oberdiensleiter [Chief Executive Officer] Brack from the Fuehrer's Wetzel wasn't accused at any of the Nuremberg trials and the timid attempts to judge him didn't get any results: the trials never materialized. Strange no? Do you have any evidence that this letter was ever sent? Too bad that you hadn't a document for which the guy wasn't capture.
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