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From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Thu Nov  2 06:09:00 PST 1995
Article: 13489 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Baron's Ignorance (Re: I Am a Non-Bigoted Re)
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In article  dkeren@world.std.com "Daniel Keren" writes:

 
> The Treblinka gas chambers were not connected to any crematoria; 
> Baron made a (typically idiotic) extrapolation from Treblinka
> to Auschwitz.

You're forgetting something Dan; they were not gas chambers in Treblinka
but steam chambers. Now who's a zero?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Thu Nov  2 06:09:01 PST 1995
Article: 13490 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: More of Baron's Rubbish (Re: More Hartfelt fantasies)
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In article <475fao$jds@dns.enter.net> yawen@enter.net "Yale F. Edeiken" writes:


>   You are, as usual, dodging the question.  The question is not whether the 
> photographs were published but whether they were staged.  Why can't you 
> answer this simple question?

To the best of my knowledge they were not staged; I think you will find
this sort of thing is not disputed by former British prisoners of war.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Thu Nov  2 06:09:01 PST 1995
Article: 13502 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Oh where, oh where, has Al Baron gone?  Oh where, oh where can he be?
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In article  dkeren@world.std.com "Daniel Keren" writes:

 Since the baby was on the floor, that
> has increased its chances of survival, because HCN gas is lighter
> than air and rises. 

So people were gassed with a lighter than air gas that was dropped from the
ceiling?

 This claim makes no sense. Birkenau

> was an extermination camp, and we know (even Baron agrees to this)
> that the SS burned people alive in other camps. 

You're trying it on again, Dan. What Baron said (yawn) was that an atrocity
at a German camp (Wobbelin?) at the end of the war involved a group of SS
setting a barn afire with people in it. This was a war time atrocity, not
part of any extermination programme. I do not concede that people were 
burnt alive in ovens. Dig?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Thu Nov  2 06:09:02 PST 1995
Article: 13515 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Is Jamie McCarthy totally spineless or totally credulous?
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In article <475oru$srk@amhux3.amherst.edu>
           jaklein@unix.amherst.edu "Josh Klein" writes:

> Oh, Mr. Baron, when will you ever stop using the rather inept analogy
> of belief in flying saucers.  Does the so-called flying saucer
> conspiracy involve the creation of flying-saucer remains?  Does it
> involve the signed confessions of numerous aliens, and the recorded
> speech of one high-up alien talking about how he intends to visit earth?
> Does it include intercepted wartime transmissions between flying
> saucers, or the diaries and correspondence of officers aboard the
> flying saucers?
> 
> I think that you are underestimating just how huge and complex
> a conspiracy would have to be in order to fool people into
> believing in the Holocaust.

Once again Josh, you are putting the word conspiracy in my mouth. I never
said there was any such thing.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Thu Nov  2 06:09:03 PST 1995
Article: 13516 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A reminder to Mr. Baron (Re: The Exterminationist Guidebook)
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In article <4756al$d8@mn5.swip.net>
           stephane.bruchfeld@mailbox.swipnet.se "Stephane Bruchfeld" writes:


> That is a reasonable principle. But what is the nature of this
> ignorance? Is it that you are not aware of the massive
> documentation that exists about mass killings of Jews by the
> various special units in the Soviet Union under German
> occupation, or that you are not - as yet - sufficiently prepared,
> as a denier, to deal with this evidence?
> However, since you haven't disagreed with my interpretation, i.e.
> that the documents constitute evidence of mass murder of Jews in
> the autumn of 1941 and that they furthermore indicate the change
> to a coded language, I take it that you do not find it, at face
> value, an unreasonable interpretation. Am I correct in my
> assumption?

I agree with the judgment of Dr Butz that a great deal of killing went on
on the Eastern front, including of civilians. These things happen in war;
this was not genocide though. Furthermore, the Jewish Chronicle and other
Jewish sources boast that Jewish partisans were heavily involved in the 
fight on the Eastern front, so you can't have it both ways.


> Mr. Baron, is there anything you have published about your
> researches that I may order from you? Is there anything
> especially concerning Auschwitz? What would you consider to be
> your main contribution to the knowledge about this camp?

My main contribution is yet to come! My book is called HOLOCAUST DENIAL: NEW
NAZI LIE or NEW INQUISITION? I have also published a documented expose of
David Irving, including of his lies and perjury. For this I am branded an
anti-Semite. I'll send you a list if you like.


> From the perspective of the victim it probably does not matter
> very much, but it is of course important to make the difference
> between all too common atrocities and genocide. In this case, if
> I understand you correctly, you mean to say that the Germans did
> commit atrocities but were not guilty of genocide. For the sake
> of the argument, since I wish to learn where you draw the line,
> let us assume that the Germans did systematically line up and
> kill Jewish civilians, men, women and children, over all of the
> conquered territory in the autumn of 1941? Mr. Baron, would you
> then agree to call this genocide, or attempted genocide? Or would
> you consider it more correct to use the descripion "atrocity"? 

I would call this war time atrocities, since I believe that Jewish suffering
is no worse and no better than anyone else's. These things happen in war.
Churchill could have stopped them by agreeing to Hitler's magnanimous peace
terms. He was at least as responsible as Hitler for the Second World War,
undoubtedly more so after 1941.

 

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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From: Alexander Baron 
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From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Fri Nov  3 12:52:14 PST 1995
Article: 13606 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: 22nd October, 1995
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In article 
           joelr@winternet.com "Joel Rosenberg" writes:

> >Yes, he pimps off his Jewish girlfriend.
> 
> And Lyin' Al claims he's not an anti-Semite, and expects people to believe him.

Baron says he has a Jewish girlfriend; therefore Baron is an anti-Semite. 
Typical exterminationist logic.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Fri Nov  3 12:52:15 PST 1995
Article: 13607 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Harry Mazal - Living Proof Of The Need For Revisionism
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In article 
           joelr@winternet.com "Joel Rosenberg" writes:

> >> You know, I think you really believe this.  Amazing.  
> 
> >You want me to E-mail you the proof?
> 
> Absolutely, with the understanding that nothing you send me is in any way in 
> confidence.  
> 

I've lost track now; send me an E-mail telling me exactly what it is you want and
I'll reply in E-mail.
-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Fri Nov  3 12:52:15 PST 1995
Article: 13608 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Gold fillings
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In article 
           mvanalst@rbi.com "Mark Van Alstine" writes:

> The translation of a report from the Staatsarchiv Nurnberg.
> 
> This translation was taken from "Concentration Camp Dachau 1933-1945" 
> (ISBN 3-87490-528-4), p. 137; (Plate 283 with translation.) 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> SS-Wirtschaftsverwaltungshauptamt                        Berlin,
>                                                  October 8. 1942
> Re: Gold fillings                                        SECRET!
> 
> To the Reichsfuhrer SS
> Berlin
> 
> Reichsfuhrer!
> 
> In accordance with your order the gold from the teeth of the dead
> prisoners is to be delivered to the health department where it will be
> used for the dental treatment of our men. 

Don't forget that according to the Soviets up to 12kg a day of this were
extracted in Auschwitz!

Thanks for this posting, by the way, it will be very useful in my researches.


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Fri Nov  3 12:52:16 PST 1995
Article: 13609 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Baron Confuses Treblinka and Auschwitz (Re: Baron's Ignorance
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In article  dkeren@world.std.com "Daniel Keren" writes:

> Alexander Baron  writes:
> 
> # You're forgetting something Dan; they were not gas chambers 
> # in Treblinka but steam chambers. 
> 
> Note how Baron desperately tries to evade the issue. Amazing.
> 
> Let's take a little look at the history of this thread.
> 
> Baron said (correctly) that there were some testimonies from Poles
> that the Treblinka gas chambers used steam to kill the victims. I
> responded that this is not true

Well, the Nuremberg documents mention steam chambers, Dan. 
> 
> Note that Baron cannot admit he made this stupid mistake - he just
> can't admit it. 

I didn't confuse anything. You do get hysterical at times.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Fri Nov  3 12:52:17 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Capone vindicated - 2 of 4
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Al Capone, Gangster: Innuendo, Rumour And Unsupported
Assertions. And Outright Fraud


Following the retirement of Johnny Torrio, Capone liquidated  the 
O'Banion  mob  - who were allegedly responsible  for  the  murder 
attempt. According to Ness. (29) But whatever Ness may say  about 
Capone's  role  in the liquidation of the O'Banion  gang,  it  is 
$common  knowledge$ that Capone ordered the St.  Valentine's  Day 
Massacre  of the rival Bugs Moran gang. For example, the  presti-
gious $Encyclopedia Americana$ reports that seven members of  the 
Moran gang were gunned down on the express orders of Capone. (30) 
To  this  day, ask almost any American - and a  great  many  non-
Americans - who was Al Capone? - and they will reply that he  was 
a  gangster. Then ask them what criminal offences Al  Capone  was 
ever convicted of, and see what they say. 
  One criminal offence Al Capone was certainly never convicted of 
was  murder. Capone died in 1947, and Ness published his  memoirs 
ten  years later. It is certain that while Scarface Al was  still 
warm in his grave, all manner of innuendo was being thrown around 
about  his  responsibility for this murder or that,  indeed  such 
allegations were made frequently when he was alive, and  probably 
on more than one occasion to his face. In his book, Ness  estima-
ted  that Capone had been responsible directly or indirectly  for 
the  murders  of up to three hundred men by 1929, (31)  a  figure 
that  is too absurd to comment on. Capone himself  once  remarked 
that he had been accused of every death except the casualty  list 
in the World War. (32)
  What are the facts? One fact, as stated, is that Al Capone  was 
never convicted of murder, indeed, the only $crime$ in any  mean-
ingful  sense that he was ever convicted of was carrying a  fire-
arm,  and the circumstances under which this conviction  was  ob-
tained stink to High Heaven.
  In May 1929, Capone was picked up for carrying a pistol. As the 
right  to  bear arms is written into the  American  Constitution, 
this  was obviously only a technical offence. Yet within  sixteen 
hours  of his arrest, Capone had been tried, convicted  and  sen-
tenced to a year in gaol. (33) And this for a first offence. (34) 
In  his  fantasy  prone autobiography, Ness  comments  that  when 
Capone, "America's most feared gangster" was gaoled, his  organi-
sation wasn't broken up but was run by his brother. (35)
  When  a $feared gangster$ or someone equally obnoxious is  sent 
to  gaol the thing that usually happens is that people crawl  out 
of the woodwork to denounce him. True, Capone was only sent  down 
for a year, but this would have been long enough for the authori-
ties  to  pressurise enough members of his (supposed)  empire  to 
turn  on  him, and for the police and the Feds to  gather  enough 
incriminating  testimony from his alleged victims to keep him  in 
gaol  for a great deal longer. What happened though? Scarface  Al 
served  his time then came out and took up right where he'd  left 
off, that's what happened.
  Although  he was sentenced to a year in gaol, Ness admits  that 
Capone  - America's most feared gangster, remember - was  out  in 
ten  months with remission for $good behaviour$. (36) The  simple 
fact  is that this $feared gangster$ was a perfectly  respectable 
and indeed extremely industrious entrepreneur who had ended up on 
the wrong side of the law for a purely technical offence, he  had 
been caught carrying a firearm, which, again, the US Constitution 
is  supposed to have guaranteed him the right to do. It  is  also 
clear that few of his contemporaries could have a more bona  fide 
reason for carrying a firearm than Al Capone. 
  It  is  a well-known truism that mud sticks, and  that  however 
baseless the allegations made against someone and however  force-
fully  he  may be exonerated, there will always be  somebody  who 
reasons no smoke without fire. By the time of his arrest,  Capone 
had been built up into one of the most evil men alive by a combi-
nation  of  state-sponsored  disinformation  and   sensationalist 
gutter  press  drivel. There must have been quite  a  few  hoods, 
self-styled  avengers  or simply people out to make  a  name  for 
themselves who would have thought nothing of gunning him down  in 
cold  blood,  or perhaps attacking him in a  less  repugnant  but 
equally  disturbing  manner. Surely such a man  in  such  circum-
stances is entitled to carry a handgun for his own protection?
  As  well  as  the bust, the sentence meted out  to  Capone  was 
clearly politically motivated. The fact that the authorities were 
able to manhandle him in so brutal a manner and deal with him  in 
such a summary fashion is also evidence of, if not outright proof 
that,  he  was  in reality no manner of gangster  but  an  honest 
businessman  who,  after being harassed by  the  authorities  for 
years,  and  quite likely in fear of his life on account  of  his 
being  demonised,  was simply caught out doing  what  any  right-
minded  person  would have done under the circumstances.  It  has 
become $de rigueur$ to portray Capone as a bloated, Machiavellian 
schemer  surrounded  by  smart lawyers,  craftily  outfoxing  the 
dedicated  efforts  of the squad of special agents to  track  him 
down  and bring him to justice. Police officers, city  officials, 
even judges, are said variously to have been on his payroll.  Yet 
the  bottom  line is that when the chips were down,  he  couldn't 
even  get  bail on a minor firearm rap. The  poor  man  obviously 
never knew what hit him. Incidentally, the usual tariff for  such 
an  $offence$  was three months, (37) yet he was sentenced  to  a 
year. Surely this is further proof that Capone was anything but a 
criminal mastermind?
  However,  even after the state's repressive apparatus had  suc-
ceeded in nailing him for this trivial offence, it wasn't  satis-
fied. According to Ness, on Capone's release, a police chief  was 
said  to have promised to clap him straight back in gaol as  soon 
as he arrived home. Twenty-five men staked out his home for  four 
days  until it was decided that he wasn't going to show up.  (38) 
This  is outrageous; in the first place, $if$ Capone had  been  a 
wanted  man  he wouldn't even have been released from  gaol,  the 
authorities would have found some further charge to bring against 
him or used some other device to make sure he wasn't allowed back 
on the street. The simple fact is that Scarface Al, having served 
a  vicious sentence for a piddling misdemeanour, was targeted  by 
an over officious police officer with a grudge against the son of 
a poor Italian immigrant who had made good while he was stuck  in 
a  brown-nosing  job while masquerading as a guardian  of  public 
morality.
  Furthermore,  by  taking no less than twenty-five men  off  the 
streets (where they could have been catching real criminals),  in 
order  to  stake out the home of a man who had not even  able  to 
commit a crime for the best part of a year - even if he'd  wanted 
to  - by doing this, this police chief wasted valuable  resources 
to harass an already harassed and essentially innocuous business-
man. In short, he allowed his irrational hatred of the successful 
-  and harmless - Al Capone to over-ride his duty to protect  the 
public.
  As  well  as claiming that he had ordered the murders  of  some 
three hundred men, Ness spins his readers a fantasy about  Capone 
moving into legitimate businesses (39) where he began bombing his 
rivals.  The public didn't like it, he says. (40) Doubtless  such 
bombings  did  occur, and by the same token the  public  wouldn't 
have  liked them (the public has never been overly fond  of  bom-
bings),  but again this is innuendo, and as always it is easy  to 
libel  the dead, because they cannot answer back. Al  Capone  was 
never proved guilty of bombing anymore than he was proved  guilty 
of murder. 
  Probably  the height of Ness's chutzpah is his suggestion  that 
an  attempt on his life shortly after one of his raids,  was  the 
work of the Capone gang. (41) The fact that Capone was in gaol at 
the  time  (on the aforementioned firearms  misdemeanour)  didn't 
prevent poor Al from being blamed even for this. This  supposedly 
so Machiavellian $gangster$ couldn't prevent the state conspiracy 
>from  throwing him into gaol on a bum rap, yet at the same time he 
is supposed to have ordered the execution of a Justice Department 
official. (42)
  Let  us  state this again loud and clear: Al Capone  was  never 
convicted of murder, nor was he ever convicted of the bombing  of 
any  individual or property. Ness's assertions are exactly  that, 
assertions,  and totally baseless ones at that, because if  there 
had  been the slightest evidence against him he would  have  been 
charged, and more than likely, convicted. It beggars belief  that 
the  Chicago police - however corrupt they may have been -  would 
have allowed Capone or anyone to get away with eight murders (the 
St.  Valentine's  Day Massacre), and it is  simply  inconceivable 
that  a  man  who didn't have enough know-how to  escape  a  gaol 
sentence for a firearms misdemeanour would have had the savvy  to 
order and escape retribution for such an heinous crime.
  Furthermore,  although  there  was public outrage  at  the  St. 
Valentine's  Day Massacre, and other gangland killings,  none  of 
this  outrage was directed at Capone. $If$ the public had  really 
believed  any of the mud that was flung at him, they  would  have 
shown their displeasure by boycotting him and buying their liquor 
>from   someone else. It is most likely that Ness, the  police  and 
the  other authorities continued to lay the blame on  Capone  for 
half  the  murders and other crimes in Chicago because he  was  a 
convenient scapegoat. He was - against his will - a high  profile 
public figure; he was also a big man with a scar on his face  who 
looked the part of the gangster or hood; (43) he was not part  of 
the  establishment, he had humble origins. And he was of  Italian 
extraction.  All they had to do was blame it all on that  devious 
schemer and gangster Capone, mutter under their breath about  how 
they couldn't touch him because he was protected or had City Hall 
in  his pocket, or some such twaddle, and they wouldn't  need  to 
justify  their  failure  to catch the real  perpetrators  of  the 
dastardly deeds. And their own incompetence.
  Again,  rather  than being either a murderer or  a  bomber,  Al 
Capone  was a successful businessman who was singled out by  both 
the  police  and the Federal Government because his  face  didn't 
fit.  In short, he was simply yet another victim  of  well-orche-
strated, vindictive and totally arbitrary state harassment.


He Was Cleared, Therefore He Did It


The  world is full of conspiracies, but conspiracy theorists  are 
frequently met with derision, often with good reason. Some people 
who postulate conspiracy theories interpret all evidence  against 
their  particular  theory as evidence $for$ it.  There  are  some 
people  -  mostly Christian Fundamentalists -  who  believe  that 
Satanists  snatch thousands of people off the streets of  America 
every  year in order to sacrifice them to the Devil. When  police 
departments  and  the  FBI have  investigated  alleged  organised 
Satanic  activity and abuse, they have found  precisely  nothing. 
(44)  So  what happens? They go into the plot as well.  Thus  the 
fact that no bodies are found proves only that the wicked  Satan-
ists  are  so clever at covering up their trail.  The  fact  that 
neither  the police nor the Feds come up with any evidence  means 
that both the police departments and the FBI have been  infiltra-
ted and taken over by the Satanists' network. And when Al  Capone 
was cleared of a crime, why, the obvious explanation, indeed  the 
only  explanation, is that he corrupted the authorities with  his 
terrible power of the purse.
  One  Capone biographer mentions a case in 1922 when Capone  was 
charged with assault with an automobile, driving while  intoxica-
ted and carrying a concealed weapon. The case never came to trial 
because,  we  are told "The charges  were  mysteriously  dropped, 
expunged  from  the  record." (45) Another  author  has  likewise 
concluded that because Capone had no criminal record he must have 
bribed  some official so that "irritating documentation could  be 
consigned to oblivion." (46)
  Notwithstanding  the fact that most of the time many  of  these 
very same officials were doing their best to make the poor  man's 
life  a  misery, this is, once again, pure innuendo.  The  simple 
fact  is  that  many people who are charged with  all  manner  of 
criminal offences never see the inside of a courtroom because the 
charges are dropped. As to why the charges are dropped, there can 
be  all  manner  of reasons. One is that  frequently  the  police 
overstep  the  mark or even fit people up. If this were  not  the 
case  then  anyone who was ever charged with a  criminal  offence 
would  be convicted. This is only intelligent speculation, but  I 
would  say  that it is likely in the above case that  Capone  was 
arrested  on a totally bum rap and that he threatened to sue  the 
police, or something of that nature. And they backed down.
  Another, quite likely explanation, is that the police  realised 
they  had  gone too far without any such  prompting,  because  in 
1922, Capone was $one of their own$, so to speak. (47)  Whatever, 
it  should never be forgotten that although by this time,  Capone 
had  long since embarked on his life of $crime$, he was still  at 
this time a very minor player. If he couldn't beat a bum  firearm 
rap  when he was kingpin, it is most unlikely that he  could  use 
his  supposedly  Machiavellian powers to extricate  himself  from 
more serious charges seven years earlier. Any suggestions to  the 
contrary  are simply loaded speculation, innuendo and  the  usual 
cheap shots.


Al Capone The Entrepreneur Versus Eliot Ness The Destroyer -  How 
It Really Was


When  one  reads communist and similar  publications  today,  the 
thing  which impresses the reader more than anything else is  the 
sheer  hatred,  venom  and nastiness that  communists  and  their 
fellow  travellers  exhibit  against anyone who  has  made  good. 
Businessmen  who have built great industrial,  retail,  wholesale 
and other empires, through their own effort, industriousness, and 
often self-sacrifice are portrayed as parasites who prey off  the 
masses  in  a relentless quest for profit. A  particularly  nasty 
example of this perverted reasoning is the anarchist  publication 
$Class  War$, which, in its February/March 1995  issue  published 
the  following attack on Richard Branson, who had  committed  the 
cardinal sin of transporting a cargo on one of his Virgin Airways 
planes  "free of charge". This is hardly the act of  a  parasitic 
capitalist,  but instead of being applauded, Mr Branson was  lam-
basted  by what was a thinly veiled murder threat: "Three  cheers 
for Mr Branson? More like three swift blows from a baseball  bat. 
He can wear as much body armour as he likes, but this prat's days 
are truly numbered." (48)
  While it is unquestionably true that some capitalists are money 
graspers, this is a personality defect that can be found through-
out  all strata of society. And although he didn't come from  the 
same  humble origins as Al Capone, Richard Branson is still  very 
much a self-made man. (49)
  This  anti-capitalistic  mentality was very much alive  in  the 
1920s  in the wake of the Bolshevik Revolution. There  has  never 
been  any  suggestion that Eliot Ness was a communist  or  fellow 
traveller, but the same hatred of financial success and desire to 
tear  down  successful business enterprises manifests  itself  in 
many people who are employed, ostensibly, as public servants, yet 
who  spend the better parts of their careers harassing  the  more 
productive and industrious members of the community. 
  Ness  claimed in his autobiography that at one time the  Capone 
Syndicate  was  estimated to have had an income  of  nearly  $120 
million. (50) A year, presumably. Although this figure is  almost 
certainly  wildly  exaggerated, his claim that $the mob$  had  20 
breweries churning out 100 barrels of beer a day (51) is probably 
not far wide of the mark.
  No  credit is given by Ness - or by any servant of that  Draco-
nian  instrument of statist repression known as the Federal  Gov-
ernment - for the positive achievements of the Capone  syndicate. 
Here  was  a  man who came from poor immigrant  stock,  from  the 
humblest  of  origins, and who, together with  many  people  from 
similar backgrounds, built a thriving, prosperous business.  (52) 
A  man whose organisation employed people in no less than  twenty 
locations in and around Chicago. If Capone hadn't employed  these 
men  (and  women?) what would they have been doing?  Most  likely 
lounging  around  on street corners or living off the dole  -  or 
whatever  they had in 1920s America. A good many of these  people 
were grateful to this so-called gangster for giving them a  live-
lihood, and enabling them to feed their families. And Mr Capone's 
customers  were  obviously satisfied; let us repeat, no  one  was 
ever forced to attend speakeasies, no one was ever forced to  buy 
and drink Capone's beer. 
  Capone  himself  saw through the hypocrisy and  humbug  of  the 
corrupt  system  which portrayed him and his  kind  as  parasites 
rather  than the service providers they were. He  enunciated  his 
views  with  crystal clear lucidity worthy of a latter  day  John 
Stuart  Mill:  "They call Al Capone a bootlegger",  he  told  one 
author,  "Yes,  it's bootleg while it's on the trucks,  but  when 
your  host at the club, in the locker room, or on the Gold  Coast 
hands  it  to you on a silver tray, it's hospitality.  What's  Al 
Capone  done, then? He's supplied a legitimate demand. Some  call 
it bootlegging. Some call it racketeering. I call it a business." 
(53)  He put it even more succinctly on another occasion when  he 
told  a  woman "They talk about me not being on  the  legitimate. 
Why,  lady, nobody's on the legit., when it comes down to  cases; 
you know that." (54)
  As well as his commitment to the free enterprise system, Capone 
exhibited  a trait which he has seldom been given credit  for,  a 
broader commitment to American ideals and a fierce, if concealed, 
patriotism.  "My rackets are run on strictly American  lines  and 
they're  going to stay that way", he told one author.  (55)  And, 
"Don't get the idea that I'm one of these goddam radicals.  Don't 
get the idea that I'm knocking the American system." (56)
  This was Al Capone, entrepreneur, public servant. We know  what 
he  did; in his own words he provided a service, he was  a  busi-
nessman whose customers in turn provided hospitality. So what was 
Eliot Ness? And what did he do?
  In  his book, Ness boasts that on one raid alone  a  staggering 
$75,000  worth  of plant was seized. (57) On another  raid,  men-
tioned  on  page 94 of his book, Ness boasts that  six  men  were 
arrested  and  that  beer and equipment valued  at  $100,000  was 
destroyed. On page 162 of this 190 page catalogue of destruction, 
the  reader is told that it was difficult to find  breweries  be-
cause  he  and  his gang had closed more than  30  large  plants, 
seized  45  trucks  and destroyed millions of  dollars  worth  of 
equipment.  There  you  have it in his own words.  Ness,  at  the 
behest  of the United States Government, set out to  destroy  the 
livelihoods of ordinary people, and millions of dollars' worth of 
expensive capital equipment.  
  Earlier  I said that Al Capone's so-called rackets gave  people 
(dozens  or perhaps even hundreds of them) a  livelihood,  taking 
them  off the street. In fact, Capone's service to  society  goes 
far beyond that, because many of the people he employed were  the 
type  who then - and today - can find employment $only$  in  this 
sort of activity. It is a truism that once a dog has a bad  name, 
nobody  wants to go near it. Many of the people who  found  their 
way onto Scarface Al's payroll were ex-cons and assorted lowlife, 
[sic]  the sort of people no regular employer would want to  take 
on.  If  these gangsters, petty crooks and no-goods  hadn't  been 
engaged  in the production and distribution of bootleg booze,  it 
is  more than likely that the Devil would have  found  villainous 
work  for  their idle hands, and that they would  have  taken  to 
mugging old ladies, burglary, armed robbery, and worse. It is not 
too much of an exaggeration to say that, rather than contributing 
to the proliferation of crime in 1920s Chicago, Al Capone actual-
ly helped keep the crime rate down.


Capone The Peacemaker: Ness Lets The Cat Out Of The Bag


Although  in  his autobiography, Ness does his  best  to  portray 
Capone  as some sort of machine gun wielding vampire whose  hands 
were  dripping  with blood, we have established already  in  this 
short  study that Scarface Al was never convicted of  murder  and 
that  all  the allegations against him of racketeering  were  and 
remain nothing more than hearsay. There are people who will claim 
that  there  were so many rumours about Capone's  involvement  in 
Organised  Crime, including organised murder, that some  of  them 
must be true, but we must point out again that this simply is not 
the  case.  Let me draw an analogy with Jack the  Ripper.  Whilst 
there is no doubt at all that a number of women were murdered  in 
London's  Whitechapel  in the late 1880s, and little  doubt  that 
some  of  them were murdered by the same person,  who  was  never 
brought to justice, there are more theories about Jack the Ripper 
than most people have had hot dinners. 
  In  reality, most of these $theories$ are simply wild  specula-
tion,  likewise all or most of them are mutually  exclusive,  for 
the Ripper can hardly have been a policeman, a woman, a  gorilla, 
a  member  of the Royal family, the Queen's physician and  a  mad 
Russian doctor simultaneously. (58) By the same token, although a 
number  of  apparently  gang-related murders  were  committed  in 
Chicago  during the Capone era, there is no good  reason  anymore 
than  there  is any good evidence that all or any  of  them  were 
ordered  by  Al Capone. The simple fact is that Al Capone  was  a 
successful businessman, and as we have pointed out already,  such 
success, especially by a man of no great education who had  risen 
>from   relative poverty, generates envy, contempt, bitterness  and 
hatred  for its own sake. Probably 99% of the  unpleasant  things 
that have been written about Capone over the years had absolutely 
no  basis  in fact. And, it should never be  forgotten,  most  of 
these  unpleasant things were written by men like Eliot Ness,  or 
inspired by him and his ilk.
  Ness himself has done an excellent hatchet job on Capone, until 
one does some basic textual analysis and compares his wild asser-
tions  with the documented facts, but even as he is slagging  off 
this so-called gangster, he inadvertently lets the cat out of the 
bag, for, rather than being any sort of mass murderer, Al  Capone 
is revealed as a peace-loving man who actually $saved$ lives.  As 
always,  the proof of the pudding is in the eating: here is  what 
Ness says when he lets his guard down. 
  Capone  ruled Chicago "with an iron fist in a glove of  steel", 
(59)  but,  "Rarely did hate actuate him; when it  did,  however, 
those  who  had incurred his wrath were marked for  death."  (60) 
Rarely? This is a man who earlier, according to Ness, had ordered 
or  been responsible for some three hundred murders by  1929.  As 
Capone became a junior partner in so-called organised crime  only 
in  1920, (when Johnny Torrio succeeded 'Diamond Jim'  Colosimo), 
that  works out to three hundred murders in nine years, which  is 
about  thirty-three  a  year, ie more than one  a  fortnight.  In 
practice though, Capone wouldn't have been in a position to order 
murders until he became kingpin five years later, so allowing for 
him  having  killed a few people before - and where is  the  evi-
dence?  - we are looking at a man who, by Ness's earlier  reckon-
ing, must have been having people dispatched every few days. 
  Okay, what have we got so far? A man who was rarely angry,  yet 
ordered  people killed as frequently as most people change  their 
underwear.  Next, Ness tells his readers that when Capone was  in 
gaol  on  the bum firearm rap, the murder rate rose:  "There  had 
been  frequent gang murders in the few months preceding  Scarface 
Al's  return.  A serious breach was threatening  to  disrupt  the 
peace  treaty  Capone had negotiated at Atlantic City."  (61)  In 
other words, rather than ordering gang murders, Capone had  waged 
a  tireless battle against them and had even succeeded in  enfor-
cing a peace treaty. The reason he did this is not far to seek. 
  His  main  aim in life was to keep things running  smoothly  so 
that  his customers had a constant supply of liquor and  so  that 
the  profits  kept running in to his organisation.  Even  a  city 
which  was  as corrupt as Chicago allegedly was  would  not  have 
tolerated gang murders on such a scale, something would have been 
done.  And as Capone had been a big wheel from 1925, there is  no 
doubt that his activities would have been monitored closely since 
then.  As indeed they were. Yet in the end the only  things  they 
ever  got  him for were a firearm misdemeanour - for  which  they 
threw the book at him - and income tax evasion. As Capone himself 
said, "They finally got me for spitting on the sidewalk." (62)



Capone The Kind And Generous Man


Ness  and his ilk would have us believe that Al Capone  got  away 
with  his  crimes [sic] for so long not only because  of  endemic 
corruption but because he was feared by the people of Chicago. It 
may be that Capone was feared, certainly by the competition,  but 
it  is  far more likely that he was loved, for again,  by  Ness's 
admission,  he was generous to a tee. Ness says of  Capone  that, 
although  he was ruthless, he had "the quality of a  great  busi-
nessman" who exhibited "sound judgment, diplomatic shrewdness and 
the diamond-hard nerves of a gambler, all balanced by cold common 
sense."  (63) Capone was certainly an accomplished diplomat,  and 
like all diplomats he realised that persuasion was always prefer-
able to compulsion, although he was realistic enough to see  that 
in  a hard world, hard decisions have to be made, and that  while 
persuasion pays dividends, some people respect only force. He put 
this philosophy in a nutshell with "You can get much further with 
a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." (64)
  Though  Capone lived in a hard world, Ness, who graduated  from 
the  University  of Chicago, either didn't understand  or  didn't 
want  to  understand  the harsh realities  faced  by  street-wise 
businessmen  who  graduated from the school of hard  knocks.  He, 
after  all,  was  working for the  Federal  Government.  Whatever 
results he turned in, even if he didn't make a single arrest,  he 
was  still paid because his salary was underwritten by the  taxes 
of  the  people. But businessmen have to turn a profit  or  their 
enterprises go down the tubes. Of course Capone was ruthless, but 
who benefits from such ruthlessness and the resultant  cut-throat 
competition? The customer, of course! 
  And  Capone was certainly loved, or if he wasn't, he  was  most 
highly respected, for as Ness himself says "Capone never  carried 
less than $50,000 in cash, scattering $25 tips to hat check girls 
and  $100  gratuities  to waiters." (65) The  reader  should  ask 
himself if these are the acts of a hoodlum, of the kind of  scum-
bag  Ness  would have us believe Capone was. The simple  fact  is 
that  Capone,  as  stated, came from humble  origins,  and  never 
forgot it. What sort of man gives a waiter a hundred dollar  tip? 
(66)  How about a kind one? Capone was not just from  poor  immi-
grant stock, he was of Italian origin. It is likely that many  of 
his  family  and friends worked in and around  the  catering  and 
restaurant  trades,  a traditional stronghold  of  Italian  immi-
grants. Every time he saw a waiter he probably thought "There but 
for the grace of God go I". (67)
  Capone's legendary generosity even went so far as to offer Ness 
a  retainer, an offer the latter would have us believe  he  found 
insulting in the extreme. When a Capone foot soldier turned up at 
Ness's office with $2,000 in cash and promised him the same every 
week  "if you'll take it easy", Ness reacted angrily,  and,  like 
the  inveterate publicity seeker he was, went out of his  way  to 
prove  his incorruptibility. (68) At least, that's what he  tells 
us.  No  one  was arrested for this attempt to  bribe  a  Federal 
officer,  so it is quite possible or even likely that  Ness  made 
the  incident  up as part of his general campaign of  smears  and 
disinformation. Assuming it was true though, what was so terrible 
about an offer of two thousand dollars a week to "take it easy" ? 
  If  Ness had taken this money, he would have benefited,  Capone 
would have benefited, and, ultimately, the City of Chicago  would 
have saved money. Think again of all the people needlessly thrown 
out  of  work by the campaign of wanton  destruction  of  private 
enterprise engaged in by Ness and his cronies. Think again too of 
the  sort of people Capone was employing. How many of them,  laid 
off when their breweries were shut down and their jobs were axed, 
moved  effortlessly from the $underworld$ of Al Capone's  victim-
less  crimes  of selling liquor to willing buyers into  the  real 
underworld?  How  many old ladies were  mugged,  people  burgled, 
banks robbed, because these otherwise unemployable wretches  were 
denied the opportunity to earn an honest dollar by the caprice of 
a  bigoted  government and the simulated outrage of  one  of  its 
strong arm men?
  Ness  even had the nerve to try to kid his readers that it  was 
this  rejection  of Capone's largesse that earned  his  team  the 
label  the Untouchables. This is nonsense, as he knew full  well, 
for  a  man of his university education could  hardly  have  been 
unaware  of the natural meaning of this term. In  India,  certain 
classes of persons are referred to as Untouchables. The $Harijan$ 
include  those  in  certain occupations, such  as  those  killing 
cattle or disposing of dead cattle, and other "polluting  activi-
ties".  (69) The word Untouchable applied to Ness & co  was  then 
not a term of reverence but an insult, an epithet from the Indian 
sub-continent.  Ness and his team of $Untouchables$ were seen  by 
the  Chicago public not as purifiers of a corrupt system, but  as 
polluters, unwanted interlopers who had been ordered by a  menda-
cious, autocratic Federal Government to destroy the livelihood of 
one of the community's most respected figures, and, more  import-
antly from their point of view, to prevent them from enjoying the 
comforts of $the good creature of God$, just because some  little 
fart of a politician with the backing of Twentieth Century  Puri-
tans and killjoys had forced an act through Congress denying  the 
people their inalienable right to drink alcohol.


Persecuted,  Harassed, Slandered, Yet Even In Prison, Capone  Put 
Others First


Socialists are forever telling us that we should work for others, 
this  is  something called altruism. It's okay to  be  altruistic 
with other people's money, in particular the taxpayers', but when 
it comes to digging into their own pockets, that's when they  are 
found out. Capone though, always believed he had a duty to socie-
ty,  to put something back. The reader will recall that in  1929, 
Capone was gaoled on a bum firearm rap. The magistrate who  heard 
this  case said he would like to "[rid] the United States of  you 
for ever." (70)
  Surely  this  magistrate would have bit his tongue  if  he  had 
learned what Capone did while serving his sentence. While he  was 
in  prison,  he overheard some doctors discussing the case  of  a 
young  criminal  in the hospital who been shot  in  an  attempted 
hold-up;  they were going to amputate his arm. Capone said  "Save 
the  boy's arm. If it takes money, I'll be glad to pay  for  it." 
(71) This was a young punk Capone didn't know from Adam, yet  for 
him  such an act of extraordinary generosity and  compassion  was 
$de  rigueur$.  Incredibly though, there were those,  beside  the 
obviously envious and totally worthless Eliot Ness, who interpre-
ted  such  acts as further evidence of Capone's  supposedly  evil 
nature.


He Was Kind Therefore He Was Evil


Capone biographer Kenneth Allsop wrote that "His individual  acts 
of  charity,  from a fifty dollar loan to an outright gift  to  a 
destitute  Italian family, were many. He paid the hospital  bills 
of  a woman bystander wounded in a street gun-battle. It  is  not 
altogether  astonishing  that today there  are  many  respectable 
citizens in Chicago who speak glowingly of Capone's  philanthropy 
and  particularly point out that in the early Depression days  it 
was the Capone gang who set up the first soup-kitchens and block-
restaurants  for  the distribution of free food  on  Thanksgiving 
Day."  (72)  On one occasion, Capone sent $1,200 to  a  deserving 
Philadelphia orphanage. (73) Yet while Allsop writes that  Capone 
was  revealed in November 1930 as the mysterious  benefactor  who 
had  set up a huge soup-kitchen, he implies that his  motives  in 
doing  this were purely selfish, ie that he set it up  purely  so 
that the identity of the benefactor could be leaked to the media, 
in order to show himself in a favourable light. (74)


Other Persecutions And Anti-Capone Hysteria


As  we have demonstrated, Capone was hounded not simply by  Eliot 
Ness  but at times by what seemed like the entire  establishment. 
He was actually arrested many times, including for vagrancy! (75) 
On top of all that, the wildest rumours and nonsense were  spread 
about  him. It was said that Capone was taking a cut of the  tak-
ings  of slot machines in Copenhagen because they had  been  man-
ufactured in Chicago. (76) A book on Capone was banned by librar-
ies in London; (77) a man who wrote a book called $Carrying a Gun 
for Al Capone$ admitted later not only that he had never done any 
such thing but that he had never even been to Chicago! (78)  Some 
of this nonsense may have been inspired by media  sensationalism, 
or,  as most likely, in the case of the  fictitious  gun-carrying 
hood,  a  Walter Mitty personality, but the  astute  reader  will 
detect  here  the  hidden hand of Capone's  declared  enemies  in 
officialdom, who, as always, were backed up by the full  coercive 
power of the state. (79)

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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Capone Inspired Loyalty From Beyond The Grave


Further  evidence  of  the true nature of  Scarface  Al  surfaced 
thirty-three  years after his death. In August 1980, the  British 
weekly  $Titbits$ published the story of a woman who  claimed  to 
have been his lover, Amelia D'Argenio. (80) She was a young widow 
when she met Capone and he asked her out, and they quickly became 
lovers.  (81) Capone gave her an allowance which was the  equiva-
lent  of L150 a week, and said that he would have given her  any-
thing  in his power, and lavished fur coats, jewellery and  money 
on her. Curiously though she said "I never saw Al with a pistol", 
(82) which raises the possibility that Capone may even have  been 
fitted up outright for the firearm misdemeanour. (83)
  Capone's  former lover continued "Of course his 'boys'  carried 
guns - even machine guns - but only to protect their  interests." 
And  why shouldn't they have? Even Capone's  hostile  biographers 
don't  deny  that he was frequently targeted  for  assassination. 
(84)  Surely  this is a clear case of  defending  one's  property 
rights  and  even more importantly, one's life, by the  right  to 
bear  arms, which is enshrined in the US Constitution.  D'Argenio 
even says that "When he ordered a speakeasy to be blown up it was 
always  at night when nobody who was innocent would  be  killed." 
(85) This sounds like hearsay, again we must stress that there is 
no proof that Al Capone ever engaged in such criminal activity as 
bombing  rivals  or, as suggested here, against  people  who  had 
ripped  him off. But even if he did authorise strong arm  tactics 
occasionally  we have been given a bona fide reason for it  here. 
Because of the Draconian (and stupid) Prohibition law, people  in 
Capone's line of work who were ripped off had either to turn  the 
other cheek or exact summary justice. Bootleggers who turned  the 
other cheek wouldn't have stayed in business long. Here though is 
prima facie evidence that although Capone may have been a bit  of 
a  rough  diamond, he lived by his own moral code, and  that  the 
summary  justice he dispensed was neither excessive nor  adminis-
tered with either malice or recklessness.
  Capone was in fact in many ways a regular guy: "Al would  leave 
for the office every morning in his armoured car and come home at 
night in the same car". And his patriotism, which we have already 
alluded to, was evinced by the huge picture of George  Washington 
and  the Stars and Stripes he kept on his office wall. "He  loved 
America." (86)


A Sick Attempt To Impugn Capone's Patriotism


We  should  mention here an attempt to portray Capone  in  a  bad 
light which, although not as sick as portraying this great Ameri-
can  entrepreneur  as a mass murderer and crook,  is  pretty  low 
nevertheless.  In  $The Bootleggers$, Kenneth  Allsop  says  that 
Capone was not only fond of lying - including about his age - but 
that  he  was born in Italy, not America, as he  claimed.  Allsop 
says  that Capone was born January 6, 1895 at Castel  Amara  near 
Rome to his shopkeeper father Gabrielle and mother Theresa.  (87) 
The implication is of course that because Capone was not born  in 
America  he couldn't have been a $good American$. This  is  utter 
nonsense  because  America  was founded by  Europeans,  and  many 
contemporary  Americans  -  former President  Ronald  Reagan  for 
example  -  are intensely proud of their European (in  his  case, 
Irish)  heritage. But that doesn't for one moment mean that  they 
are not good Americans.
  In  any  case, this charge against Capone is  blatantly  false. 
Another  Capone biographer, John Kobler, reports that Capone  was 
indeed  born  in the United States, in Brooklyn, on  January  17, 
1899. (16) And, far from reducing his age, Capone actually  added 
a  year  to his official age. The reason for this  was  that  the 
fully assimilated all-American son of Italian immigrants  married 
an  Irish-American  (Mae  Coughlin), on December  18,  1918.  His 
bride-to-be  was  actually two years older  than  him,  something 
which  appears  to have embarrassed Capone, so  on  the  marriage 
certificate,  she lowered her age by one year, and  he  increased 
his  by  one. (88) [This is the sort of white  lie  anyone  would 
tell.] In any case, Capone's parents arrived in the United States 
in 1893, two years before - according to Allsop - Capone  himself 
was  born.  (89) Let us return now to the lies  and  innuendo  of 
Eliot Ness. 


A Strange Incident


As  most  people  know, Al Capone was finally  convicted  of  and 
gaoled for income tax evasion, but prior to his indictment a most 
curious  incident is reported by Ness. Following the murder of  a 
police  reporter who was said to have been on the take, a gun  in 
Ness's files disappeared. This gun was proved by forensic testing 
to  have  been one of the same batch as the weapon  used  in  the 
reporter's  murder,  and was thought initially to have  been  the 
same gun. Ness's reaction to the disappearance of the gun in  his 
files is strange indeed. He says: "The Capone gang - for it could 
be no other - had started to show its hand. They had entered  our 
offices, probably in the dead of night, and searched for evidence 
that  could  be destroyed." (90) Yeah, sure  Eliot,  but  Occam's 
Razor  gives us a far more plausible explanation. To begin  with, 
if the Capone $gang$ had been responsible, surely they would have 
destroyed  a  great deal more evidence, perhaps they'd  even  had 
bombed or torched the office. 
  Secondly,  the  obvious solution is that someone  with  regular 
access  to  the office - perhaps even Ness himself  -  made  this 
weapon  disappear. I wouldn't like to speculate as to the  reason 
Ness  or  one of his underlings would wish to  make  a  potential 
murder  weapon disappear, but even the dumbest of observers  must 
surely conclude that it is odd Ness should have blamed Capone for 
this  particular piece of legerdemain. Perhaps  the  Untouchables 
weren't quite so untouchable after all?


Trial And Conviction


Although Ness and his team did some impressive work in  gathering 
evidence against Capone (in a purely technical sense), it was the 
Revenue  agents who did the real damage. Capone  and  sixty-eight 
members of his syndicate were eventually indicted by a Grand Jury 
under the $Volstead Act$. This was based on evidence assembled by 
Ness  and  his  agents, but the tax case  took  precedence.  (91) 
Capone himself faced three indictments and a possible 34 years in 
gaol. (92)
  In  1989, Britain's leading Libertarian Chris Tame, (93)  wrote 
that  if a thug were to accost you in the street and demand  your 
wallet, you wouldn't hesitate to call his actions theft. (94) The 
$crime$ Al Capone was charged with was refusing to part with  his 
hard-earned  money,  not  to a street thug, but to  agents  of  a 
repressive  regime  of new, unhappy Puritans who  treated  people 
like  common criminals for doing what people of almost  all  cul-
tures have done since time immemorial, drinking alcohol. 
  It seems incredible that a law-abiding citizen whose only  real 
crime was a technical infringement of a firearms law, who created 
a vast business empire, who gave hundreds of people a livelihood, 
who  serviced  willing imbibers from all walks of  society,  who, 
even  by  his  avowed enemy's admission,  brought  peace  to  the 
streets  of Chicago, and undoubtedly saved lives, that a man  who 
did all this, should be treated like a common criminal and threa-
tened  with over thirty years in gaol because he decided he  knew 
better what to do with his money than the state. (95)
  In  spite of Capone's business acumen, he was naive  about  the 
law.  At  one point he objected "They can't collect  legal  taxes 
>from  illegal money." (96) Unfortunately for him this wasn't true. 
In  1921 a small time Carolina bootlegger named  Manley  Sullivan 
was  charged  with income tax evasion. He  didn't  challenge  the 
bootlegging  allegation but argued a point of law, that the  gov-
ernment was not allowed to tax illegal income. The case went  all 
the way to the Supreme Court. He lost. (97)
  Capone  was found guilty on counts 1, 5, 9, 13 and 18.  He  was 
also  given  6 months for contempt of court, was sentenced  to  a 
total  of  eleven years in gaol, fined a total  of  $50,000,  and 
ordered  to  pay $30,000 costs. As he left the courtroom  he  was 
served with an order to freeze his assets by a Revenue  official. 
(98)


The End Of Prohibition


Al  Capone  was  gaoled in October 1931 and served  most  of  his 
sentence  in  Alcatraz. In 1933, Prohibition was  ended  because, 
according  to  the $Encyclopedia Americana$, "the  nation's  most 
influential  people, as well as the general public,  acknowledged 
that it had failed. It had increased lawlessness and drinking and 
aggravated alcohol abuse." (99) Capone himself had gone on record 
as stating that "Prohibition has made nothing but trouble". (100) 
Indeed,  this  must have been apparent from almost  the  day  the 
$Volstead  Act$ was passed. In 1929, the U.S. assistant  attorney 
general in charge of liquor law prosecutions, a woman named Mabel 
Walker Willebrandt, resigned and became an attorney for the  wine 
industry.  (101) However, the real reason the great  $social  ex-
periment$  of Prohibition $failed$, had nothing whatsoever to  do 
with concern for increasing lawlessness, aggravated alcohol abuse 
or  anything  of the kind, Prohibition was  scrapped  for  purely 
commercial reasons, as we will see shortly.


Capone And Ness: Their Later Careers


Capone's last day in Alcatraz was January 6, 1939. His biographer 
John Kobler wrote that "For the misdemeanor of failing to file  a 
tax  return, he owed another year, reducible by good behavior  to 
about  ten months." (102) Again that phrase good behaviour  rears 
its head, somehow it is so out of character with the media  image 
of Capone which Ness and his sycophants and their spiritual heirs 
have built in the nearly five decades since Scarface Al's  death. 
On  his release, Capone lived quietly until his premature  death, 
not just a sick man but a broken one. 
  We  have demonstrated here I think that the myth of  Al  Capone 
mass  murderer and super-gangster was just that, a myth.  Another 
myth,  almost  as  big, is the myth that  Capone  was  fabulously 
wealthy.  Ness  claimed  that at one time Capone  was  worth  $50 
million.  (103) The $Encyclopedia Americana$ - which,  having  no 
axe  to grind, one would expect to be more reliable  -  estimated 
his  wealth  at his peak in 1927 at a  staggering  $100  million. 
(104)  Capone's last lawyer painted a different picture. To  wit, 
his client "never owned the sources of his once vast wealth."  He 
shared  with partners and the organisation. He was well  provided 
for but his property was heavily mortgaged and he had to pay  off 
back  taxes. (105) Ness's claim that Capone never carried  around 
less  than  $50,000 in cash (106) is obviously  nonsense  of  the 
first  order, but Capone's extraordinary personal generosity  and 
kindness were undoubtedly for real. He died January 25, 1947.
  Although Capone retired from public life with his gaoling, Ness 
did  not. The Untouchables were disbanded, but Ness  remained  in 
government service, and during World War Two he served as  Direc-
tor of Social Protection for the Federal Security Agency and  was 
given  the  appropriate task for an accomplished  brown-noser  of 
"combating venereal disease in and near every military establish-
ment  in the United States". (107) How he undertook this  awesome 
task the mind boggles, but the scatological, bird-brained nincom-
poops  who run the United States Government were  obviously  more 
than satisfied with his work, and he was awarded a medal for  it. 
He died of a heart attack on May 16, 1957. (108)


The Making Of Two Myths: TV Lends A Hand


The  Untouchables  were immortalised by an eponymous  TV  series, 
with  the  actor Robert Stack playing the title role.  There  was 
also  a  much more recent film with Kevin Costner  playing  Ness. 
Neither  Stack  nor Costner could be said to portray  Ness  as  a 
debonair sort, but Capone, where he appears in any dramatisation, 
is  portrayed as an overweight, unsightly thug, the  exact  alter 
ego  of the incorruptible Ness. Ness, let it never be  forgotten, 
was  a  man who, by his own admission, enforced a law  he  didn't 
really  believe in, who tapped people's telephones and  spied  on 
them  in numerous other ways, a man who took pride in  destroying 
wealth-creating private enterprise at the behest of a  megalithic 
Federal  Government which owed its very existence to the  efforts 
of  entrepreneurs like Al Capone. And, to cap it all,  this  same 
$gang-buster$,  this $Untouchable$, spent the Second  World  War, 
not in a military uniform, not even as a Federal agent, but as  a 
government  snoop inspecting toilets, lecturing soldiers  on  the 
evils  of promiscuity, or whatever it is that people  who  combat 
venereal disease are obliged to do to earn their sinecures.


Why Prohibition Was Really Repealed


The  $Encyclopedia  Americana's$ claim that Prohibition  was  re-
pealed because "the nation's most influential people, as well  as 
the  general  public, acknowledged that it had failed" is  a  lie 
that has been manufactured from the whole cloth. Many other  laws 
have $failed$, proved unworkable or counter-productive, but  that 
hasn't  prevented  them either from remaining in force  or  being 
strengthened.  The real reason for Prohibition's repeal has  less 
to  do  with either morality or concern for the  welfare  of  the 
people than with plain, old-fashioned economics. The reader  will 
recall  the signs hung outside the London gin shops  guaranteeing 
to  make their customers "drunk for one penny and dead drunk  for 
two  pence". Another common vice - besides drunkenness -  is  the 
demon  weed. During Prohibition, cigarettes retailed  for  around 
one  penny each! (109) Today, ie 1995, you won't get a bottle  of 
whisky for much less than fifteen quid, while fags will cost  you 
around two pounds fifty for twenty. (110)
  Granted that the prices of virtually all commodities will  have 
risen in actual if not real terms since the 18th Century or  even 
since the 1920s, (111) this still leaves a veritable crevasse  to 
fill.  And that crevasse has been filled almost entirely  by  one 
thing: tax.
  The  British daily newspaper $Today$ reported in  its  December 
10, 1994 issue the following price breakdown for booze, fags  and 
petrol:


In  each case the first price is the retail price, the second  is 
the  combined tax (duty, sales tax, VAT). The price is given  for 
20 Marlboro brand cigarettes and one litre of petrol; prices have 
been rounded to the nearest penny.

                    UK           Germany               Australia


Scotch           L12.00            L9.50                  L14.21     
                  L6.18            L3.50                   L6.11

Wine              L2.75               84p                  L1.10
(bottle)          L1.05                6p                     97p

Beer                 99p              40p                     60p     
                     22p               4p                     36p 

Cigs              L2.70            L1.90                   L2.54  
                  L1.15            L1.20                      89p

Petrol               60p              66p                     36p
(leaded)             36p              48p                      3p

Petrol               53p              60p                     35p
(unleaded)           31p              40p                      3p


It will be seen from the above table that prices vary considerab-
ly  -  as one would expect - from country to country, as  do  the 
duties on the various products. In Germany, the duty on  unleaded 
petrol makes up a staggering two thirds of its price at the pumps 
while  in Australia it is less than (less than!) 10%.  (112)  The 
reason  for the low [sic] duty on petrol in Australia is  clearly 
because  of  the  size of the country. Like  the  United  States, 
people often have to travel vast distances in the course of their 
work  or daily lives. On the other hand, although Australia is  a 
wine  producing country, the tax on a bottle of wine makes  up  a 
staggering  88+% of the cost price! Clearly this tax  is  totally 
unnecessary except for the purposes of a) regulating the  average 
Aussie's lifestyle, (113) and b) ripping off the consumer for the 
express  purpose of funding an inflated and  totally  unnecessary 
bureaucracy.
  Here then is why the so-called great experiment of  Prohibition 
failed,  the social policy makers decided that it would  be  much 
more  worthwhile  to legalise booze in order  to  facilitate  yet 
another  gigantic rip-off of the already oppressed  public.  This 
was the reason, the only reason, the American Government admitted 
its mistake and repealed the Prohibition law. And it may  eventu-
ally  be the same reason which leads to the repeal of that  other 
and even more outrageous form of Prohibition, the war on drugs. A 
short  survey  of  this will conclude the  current  study,  first 
though,  let us take a brief look at another, and far  less  well 
known  aspect  of Prohibition, that of the oppression  of  ethnic 
minorities.


An Unexplored Facet Of The Campaign Against Al Capone


We come now to an aspect of the government sponsored campaign  to 
destroy  Al  Capone  which has been written out  of  the  history 
books.  Capone's cardinal sin was that he gave people  what  they 
wanted  and  was spectacularly successful into the  bargain.  His 
other sin is that although he was white, he was Latin rather than 
Anglo-Saxon. This $ethnic bias$ - to put it euphemistically - was 
something  that  was very prevalent then and is still  so  today, 
though now it manifests itself primarily in the war on drugs, but 
also to some extent in the campaign against that other taboo free 
market, prostitution.
  Capone  was of course far from the only American $gangster$  of 
Latin heritage in the 1920s, and Latins were not the only  minor-
ity involved in servicing a thirsty public, the bootleg  industry 
was  also  heavily  Jewish. The Jewish  $gangster$  Meyer  Lansky 
(1902-83)  was  one of many others besides Capone et al  who  was 
harassed  not  only  on account of his services  to  free  market 
capitalism  but also because of his birth. Under the Law  of  Re-
turn,  any Jew born anywhere in the world has the right  to  emi-
grate  to  Israel; Lansky was refused entry to the  country,  un-
questionably  under pressure from the United  States  Government. 
"When  you're a Jew," he said, "the whole world's  against  you." 
(114)
  Lansky  should have said "When you're not Anglo-Saxon", for  it 
wasn't  just  the Jews and the Italians, indeed  nowadays  it  is 
hardly  them  at all - as most of them have moved up  the  social 
ladder  into $legitimate$ businesses. Nowadays it is,  primarily, 
if you're black, you'll find the authorities jumping on you  from 
a great height when you try to make an honest dollar by providing 
a  service which the United States Government in its  wisdom  has 
decided  that its citizens are to be denied the pleasure of.  The 
majority of drug dealers in most American inner cities are black, 
and a great many of those working the streets as whores and pimps 
are  black. Whatever one may think of whores or the men who  live 
off them, there is no element of compulsion in any such  transac-
tion.  No $john$ has to seek out the services of a hooker.  (115) 
Leaving  aside  the Puritan mentality of many of the  people  re-
sponsible  for  drafting social policy in the United  States,  in 
view of the experience of Capone and that enlightening protest of 
Lansky,  the continued outlawing of a substantial sector  of  the 
free  market under the pretext of saving people  from  themselves 
(116)  is  nothing  less than part of the - for  the  most  part, 
invisible  - class structure of the United States. And  one  that 
ensures  that  if  your face doesn't fit,  particularly  if  it's 
black, you stay right at the bottom.


The  Evil Legacy Of Eliot Ness: The War On Drugs And The  End  Of 
The Rule Of Law


One pundit has written of Al Capone that he was "the creation and 
the  victim of his times". (117) This is indeed true. It is  also 
true that the current generation is the victim of Capone's times, 
because  while  their good dies with them, the evil that  men  do 
lives  after them, and few men did more evil than Eliot Ness  and 
the other servants of the corrupt system of statist repression he 
and they helped to create and maintain. Although Eliot Ness  died 
in 1957, his evil legacy is all around in the United States,  and 
manifests  itself  in the Draconian legislation  which  has  been 
ushered through Congress by the tactic of frightening and wilful-
ly deceiving the public in the phony war on drugs.
  The  drug  menace is so terrible, so all-encompassing,  such  a 
threat to the survival of civilisation, we are told, that it must 
be stamped out by any means necessary. The simple fact though  is 
that any man, woman or child can walk into their local supermark-
et and buy poison, be it boot polish or Vitamin D. (118) The idea 
that  such  commonplace commodities should be  regulated  because 
they  can be dangerous if misused has never quite caught  on.  It 
could  be that recreational drugs have been singled out  for  the 
simple  reason that they are recreational, as is  alcohol.  What-
ever,  the  Draconian laws that have been foisted upon  the  good 
citizens of America - and other countries - in order, ostensibly, 
to  combat  the non-existent drug menace, are now  being  quietly 
extended to other areas.
  The  April 1995 issue of the British Libertarian journal  $Free 
Life$  reported  the following horror story, one  such  as  could 
never have happened in Nazi Germany or even in Soviet Russia.  In 
1992, a woman in Iowa who was accused of shoplifting a $25  swea-
ter had her $18,000 automobile - which had been specially  equip-
ped for her handicapped daughter - seized as a getaway car! (119) 
This was made possible by civil asset forfeiture legislation,  in 
particular  the $Comprehensive Forfeiture Act 1984$.
  Civil asset forfeiture legislation was designed to inhibit  so-
called racketeering, which in Ness's day was centred on booze but 
is today centred on drugs. One 1992 report claimed that an  esti-
mated  $85 billion of illegal drug money a year was  being  laun-
dered through banks in the United States and Europe. (120)  While 
a  certain  amount of illegal drug money - perhaps even  a  great 
deal  - is without doubt $laundered$ through the  banking  system 
and  legitimate businesses, it is most unlikely that this  figure 
has any basis in fact, or if the true figure can even be  reason-
ably estimated. (121)
  Such legislation as civil asset forfeiture is nothing less than 
a direct and wilful usurpation of the rule of law, and has conse-
quences  for  every citizen which make it possible - and  in  the 
near  future  probable - that anytime he (or she)  steps  out  of 
line, he will be jumped on from a great height by the powers that 
be.  Imagine  the following scenario. You are  a  publisher;  you 
publish a book or magazine which is highly critical of a  govern-
ment  agency, or exposes police corruption. After an  $anonymous$ 
tip off the police raid your premises and find (or plant)  traces 
of  cocaine on a dollar bill in your safe. (122) They  confiscate 
your  business, your bank account, the lot. (123)  Theoretically, 
this course of action could be used against the wealthiest men in 
the country as a catch-all device to confiscate all their assets. 
So, if your name is Bill Gates and a police officer performing  a 
$random$  search  at a road block happens to $find$ a  spliff  in 
your car, you can kiss goodbye to Microsoft.
  Anti-drug hysteria has also led to a law which makes it  manda-
tory  to record all cash transactions over $10,000. Such  regula-
tion and people control must lead not only inevitably to  tyranny 
but to the strangulation of the economy. It is this which is  the 
true legacy of Eliot Ness, and frankly, the society which  turned 
him and his kind into heroes, deserves everything it gets. 


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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Al Capone, Gangster: Innuendo, Rumour And Unsupported
Assertions. And Outright Fraud


Following the retirement of Johnny Torrio, Capone liquidated  the 
O'Banion  mob  - who were allegedly responsible  for  the  murder 
attempt. According to Ness. (29) But whatever Ness may say  about 
Capone's  role  in the liquidation of the O'Banion  gang,  it  is 
$common  knowledge$ that Capone ordered the St.  Valentine's  Day 
Massacre  of the rival Bugs Moran gang. For example, the  presti-
gious $Encyclopedia Americana$ reports that seven members of  the 
Moran gang were gunned down on the express orders of Capone. (30) 
To  this  day, ask almost any American - and a  great  many  non-
Americans - who was Al Capone? - and they will reply that he  was 
a  gangster. Then ask them what criminal offences Al  Capone  was 
ever convicted of, and see what they say. 
  One criminal offence Al Capone was certainly never convicted of 
was  murder. Capone died in 1947, and Ness published his  memoirs 
ten  years later. It is certain that while Scarface Al was  still 
warm in his grave, all manner of innuendo was being thrown around 
about  his  responsibility for this murder or that,  indeed  such 
allegations were made frequently when he was alive, and  probably 
on more than one occasion to his face. In his book, Ness  estima-
ted  that Capone had been responsible directly or indirectly  for 
the  murders  of up to three hundred men by 1929, (31)  a  figure 
that  is too absurd to comment on. Capone himself  once  remarked 
that he had been accused of every death except the casualty  list 
in the World War. (32)
  What are the facts? One fact, as stated, is that Al Capone  was 
never convicted of murder, indeed, the only $crime$ in any  mean-
ingful  sense that he was ever convicted of was carrying a  fire-
arm,  and the circumstances under which this conviction  was  ob-
tained stink to High Heaven.
  In May 1929, Capone was picked up for carrying a pistol. As the 
right  to  bear arms is written into the  American  Constitution, 
this  was obviously only a technical offence. Yet within  sixteen 
hours  of his arrest, Capone had been tried, convicted  and  sen-
tenced to a year in gaol. (33) And this for a first offence. (34) 
In  his  fantasy  prone autobiography, Ness  comments  that  when 
Capone, "America's most feared gangster" was gaoled, his  organi-
sation wasn't broken up but was run by his brother. (35)
  When  a $feared gangster$ or someone equally obnoxious is  sent 
to  gaol the thing that usually happens is that people crawl  out 
of the woodwork to denounce him. True, Capone was only sent  down 
for a year, but this would have been long enough for the authori-
ties  to  pressurise enough members of his (supposed)  empire  to 
turn  on  him, and for the police and the Feds to  gather  enough 
incriminating  testimony from his alleged victims to keep him  in 
gaol  for a great deal longer. What happened though? Scarface  Al 
served  his time then came out and took up right where he'd  left 
off, that's what happened.
  Although  he was sentenced to a year in gaol, Ness admits  that 
Capone  - America's most feared gangster, remember - was  out  in 
ten  months with remission for $good behaviour$. (36) The  simple 
fact  is that this $feared gangster$ was a perfectly  respectable 
and indeed extremely industrious entrepreneur who had ended up on 
the wrong side of the law for a purely technical offence, he  had 
been caught carrying a firearm, which, again, the US Constitution 
is  supposed to have guaranteed him the right to do. It  is  also 
clear that few of his contemporaries could have a more bona  fide 
reason for carrying a firearm than Al Capone. 
  It  is  a well-known truism that mud sticks, and  that  however 
baseless the allegations made against someone and however  force-
fully  he  may be exonerated, there will always be  somebody  who 
reasons no smoke without fire. By the time of his arrest,  Capone 
had been built up into one of the most evil men alive by a combi-
nation  of  state-sponsored  disinformation  and   sensationalist 
gutter  press  drivel. There must have been quite  a  few  hoods, 
self-styled  avengers  or simply people out to make  a  name  for 
themselves who would have thought nothing of gunning him down  in 
cold  blood,  or perhaps attacking him in a  less  repugnant  but 
equally  disturbing  manner. Surely such a man  in  such  circum-
stances is entitled to carry a handgun for his own protection?
  As  well  as  the bust, the sentence meted out  to  Capone  was 
clearly politically motivated. The fact that the authorities were 
able to manhandle him in so brutal a manner and deal with him  in 
such a summary fashion is also evidence of, if not outright proof 
that,  he  was  in reality no manner of gangster  but  an  honest 
businessman  who,  after being harassed by  the  authorities  for 
years,  and  quite likely in fear of his life on account  of  his 
being  demonised,  was simply caught out doing  what  any  right-
minded  person  would have done under the circumstances.  It  has 
become $de rigueur$ to portray Capone as a bloated, Machiavellian 
schemer  surrounded  by  smart lawyers,  craftily  outfoxing  the 
dedicated  efforts  of the squad of special agents to  track  him 
down  and bring him to justice. Police officers, city  officials, 
even judges, are said variously to have been on his payroll.  Yet 
the  bottom  line is that when the chips were down,  he  couldn't 
even  get  bail on a minor firearm rap. The  poor  man  obviously 
never knew what hit him. Incidentally, the usual tariff for  such 
an  $offence$  was three months, (37) yet he was sentenced  to  a 
year. Surely this is further proof that Capone was anything but a 
criminal mastermind?
  However,  even after the state's repressive apparatus had  suc-
ceeded in nailing him for this trivial offence, it wasn't  satis-
fied. According to Ness, on Capone's release, a police chief  was 
said  to have promised to clap him straight back in gaol as  soon 
as he arrived home. Twenty-five men staked out his home for  four 
days  until it was decided that he wasn't going to show up.  (38) 
This  is outrageous; in the first place, $if$ Capone had  been  a 
wanted  man  he wouldn't even have been released from  gaol,  the 
authorities would have found some further charge to bring against 
him or used some other device to make sure he wasn't allowed back 
on the street. The simple fact is that Scarface Al, having served 
a  vicious sentence for a piddling misdemeanour, was targeted  by 
an over officious police officer with a grudge against the son of 
a poor Italian immigrant who had made good while he was stuck  in 
a  brown-nosing  job while masquerading as a guardian  of  public 
morality.
  Furthermore,  by  taking no less than twenty-five men  off  the 
streets (where they could have been catching real criminals),  in 
order  to  stake out the home of a man who had not even  able  to 
commit a crime for the best part of a year - even if he'd  wanted 
to  - by doing this, this police chief wasted valuable  resources 
to harass an already harassed and essentially innocuous business-
man. In short, he allowed his irrational hatred of the successful 
-  and harmless - Al Capone to over-ride his duty to protect  the 
public.
  As  well  as claiming that he had ordered the murders  of  some 
three hundred men, Ness spins his readers a fantasy about  Capone 
moving into legitimate businesses (39) where he began bombing his 
rivals.  The public didn't like it, he says. (40) Doubtless  such 
bombings  did  occur, and by the same token the  public  wouldn't 
have  liked them (the public has never been overly fond  of  bom-
bings),  but again this is innuendo, and as always it is easy  to 
libel  the dead, because they cannot answer back. Al  Capone  was 
never proved guilty of bombing anymore than he was proved  guilty 
of murder. 
  Probably  the height of Ness's chutzpah is his suggestion  that 
an  attempt on his life shortly after one of his raids,  was  the 
work of the Capone gang. (41) The fact that Capone was in gaol at 
the  time  (on the aforementioned firearms  misdemeanour)  didn't 
prevent poor Al from being blamed even for this. This  supposedly 
so Machiavellian $gangster$ couldn't prevent the state conspiracy 
>from  throwing him into gaol on a bum rap, yet at the same time he 
is supposed to have ordered the execution of a Justice Department 
official. (42)
  Let  us  state this again loud and clear: Al Capone  was  never 
convicted of murder, nor was he ever convicted of the bombing  of 
any  individual or property. Ness's assertions are exactly  that, 
assertions,  and totally baseless ones at that, because if  there 
had  been the slightest evidence against him he would  have  been 
charged, and more than likely, convicted. It beggars belief  that 
the  Chicago police - however corrupt they may have been -  would 
have allowed Capone or anyone to get away with eight murders (the 
St.  Valentine's  Day Massacre), and it is  simply  inconceivable 
that  a  man  who didn't have enough know-how to  escape  a  gaol 
sentence for a firearms misdemeanour would have had the savvy  to 
order and escape retribution for such an heinous crime.
  Furthermore,  although  there  was public outrage  at  the  St. 
Valentine's  Day Massacre, and other gangland killings,  none  of 
this  outrage was directed at Capone. $If$ the public had  really 
believed  any of the mud that was flung at him, they  would  have 
shown their displeasure by boycotting him and buying their liquor 
>from   someone else. It is most likely that Ness, the  police  and 
the  other authorities continued to lay the blame on  Capone  for 
half  the  murders and other crimes in Chicago because he  was  a 
convenient scapegoat. He was - against his will - a high  profile 
public figure; he was also a big man with a scar on his face  who 
looked the part of the gangster or hood; (43) he was not part  of 
the  establishment, he had humble origins. And he was of  Italian 
extraction.  All they had to do was blame it all on that  devious 
schemer and gangster Capone, mutter under their breath about  how 
they couldn't touch him because he was protected or had City Hall 
in  his pocket, or some such twaddle, and they wouldn't  need  to 
justify  their  failure  to catch the real  perpetrators  of  the 
dastardly deeds. And their own incompetence.
  Again,  rather  than being either a murderer or  a  bomber,  Al 
Capone  was a successful businessman who was singled out by  both 
the  police  and the Federal Government because his  face  didn't 
fit.  In short, he was simply yet another victim  of  well-orche-
strated, vindictive and totally arbitrary state harassment.


He Was Cleared, Therefore He Did It


The  world is full of conspiracies, but conspiracy theorists  are 
frequently met with derision, often with good reason. Some people 
who postulate conspiracy theories interpret all evidence  against 
their  particular  theory as evidence $for$ it.  There  are  some 
people  -  mostly Christian Fundamentalists -  who  believe  that 
Satanists  snatch thousands of people off the streets of  America 
every  year in order to sacrifice them to the Devil. When  police 
departments  and  the  FBI have  investigated  alleged  organised 
Satanic  activity and abuse, they have found  precisely  nothing. 
(44)  So  what happens? They go into the plot as well.  Thus  the 
fact that no bodies are found proves only that the wicked  Satan-
ists  are  so clever at covering up their trail.  The  fact  that 
neither  the police nor the Feds come up with any evidence  means 
that both the police departments and the FBI have been  infiltra-
ted and taken over by the Satanists' network. And when Al  Capone 
was cleared of a crime, why, the obvious explanation, indeed  the 
only  explanation, is that he corrupted the authorities with  his 
terrible power of the purse.
  One  Capone biographer mentions a case in 1922 when Capone  was 
charged with assault with an automobile, driving while  intoxica-
ted and carrying a concealed weapon. The case never came to trial 
because,  we  are told "The charges  were  mysteriously  dropped, 
expunged  from  the  record." (45) Another  author  has  likewise 
concluded that because Capone had no criminal record he must have 
bribed  some official so that "irritating documentation could  be 
consigned to oblivion." (46)
  Notwithstanding  the fact that most of the time many  of  these 
very same officials were doing their best to make the poor  man's 
life  a  misery, this is, once again, pure innuendo.  The  simple 
fact  is  that  many people who are charged with  all  manner  of 
criminal offences never see the inside of a courtroom because the 
charges are dropped. As to why the charges are dropped, there can 
be  all  manner  of reasons. One is that  frequently  the  police 
overstep  the  mark or even fit people up. If this were  not  the 
case  then  anyone who was ever charged with a  criminal  offence 
would  be convicted. This is only intelligent speculation, but  I 
would  say  that it is likely in the above case that  Capone  was 
arrested  on a totally bum rap and that he threatened to sue  the 
police, or something of that nature. And they backed down.
  Another, quite likely explanation, is that the police  realised 
they  had  gone too far without any such  prompting,  because  in 
1922, Capone was $one of their own$, so to speak. (47)  Whatever, 
it  should never be forgotten that although by this time,  Capone 
had  long since embarked on his life of $crime$, he was still  at 
this time a very minor player. If he couldn't beat a bum  firearm 
rap  when he was kingpin, it is most unlikely that he  could  use 
his  supposedly  Machiavellian powers to extricate  himself  from 
more serious charges seven years earlier. Any suggestions to  the 
contrary  are simply loaded speculation, innuendo and  the  usual 
cheap shots.


Al Capone The Entrepreneur Versus Eliot Ness The Destroyer -  How 
It Really Was


When  one  reads communist and similar  publications  today,  the 
thing  which impresses the reader more than anything else is  the 
sheer  hatred,  venom  and nastiness that  communists  and  their 
fellow  travellers  exhibit  against anyone who  has  made  good. 
Businessmen  who have built great industrial,  retail,  wholesale 
and other empires, through their own effort, industriousness, and 
often self-sacrifice are portrayed as parasites who prey off  the 
masses  in  a relentless quest for profit. A  particularly  nasty 
example of this perverted reasoning is the anarchist  publication 
$Class  War$, which, in its February/March 1995  issue  published 
the  following attack on Richard Branson, who had  committed  the 
cardinal sin of transporting a cargo on one of his Virgin Airways 
planes  "free of charge". This is hardly the act of  a  parasitic 
capitalist,  but instead of being applauded, Mr Branson was  lam-
basted  by what was a thinly veiled murder threat: "Three  cheers 
for Mr Branson? More like three swift blows from a baseball  bat. 
He can wear as much body armour as he likes, but this prat's days 
are truly numbered." (48)
  While it is unquestionably true that some capitalists are money 
graspers, this is a personality defect that can be found through-
out  all strata of society. And although he didn't come from  the 
same  humble origins as Al Capone, Richard Branson is still  very 
much a self-made man. (49)
  This  anti-capitalistic  mentality was very much alive  in  the 
1920s  in the wake of the Bolshevik Revolution. There  has  never 
been  any  suggestion that Eliot Ness was a communist  or  fellow 
traveller, but the same hatred of financial success and desire to 
tear  down  successful business enterprises manifests  itself  in 
many people who are employed, ostensibly, as public servants, yet 
who  spend the better parts of their careers harassing  the  more 
productive and industrious members of the community. 
  Ness  claimed in his autobiography that at one time the  Capone 
Syndicate  was  estimated to have had an income  of  nearly  $120 
million. (50) A year, presumably. Although this figure is  almost 
certainly  wildly  exaggerated, his claim that $the mob$  had  20 
breweries churning out 100 barrels of beer a day (51) is probably 
not far wide of the mark.
  No  credit is given by Ness - or by any servant of that  Draco-
nian  instrument of statist repression known as the Federal  Gov-
ernment - for the positive achievements of the Capone  syndicate. 
Here  was  a  man who came from poor immigrant  stock,  from  the 
humblest  of  origins, and who, together with  many  people  from 
similar backgrounds, built a thriving, prosperous business.  (52) 
A  man whose organisation employed people in no less than  twenty 
locations in and around Chicago. If Capone hadn't employed  these 
men  (and  women?) what would they have been doing?  Most  likely 
lounging  around  on street corners or living off the dole  -  or 
whatever  they had in 1920s America. A good many of these  people 
were grateful to this so-called gangster for giving them a  live-
lihood, and enabling them to feed their families. And Mr Capone's 
customers  were  obviously satisfied; let us repeat, no  one  was 
ever forced to attend speakeasies, no one was ever forced to  buy 
and drink Capone's beer. 
  Capone  himself  saw through the hypocrisy and  humbug  of  the 
corrupt  system  which portrayed him and his  kind  as  parasites 
rather  than the service providers they were. He  enunciated  his 
views  with  crystal clear lucidity worthy of a latter  day  John 
Stuart  Mill:  "They call Al Capone a bootlegger",  he  told  one 
author,  "Yes,  it's bootleg while it's on the trucks,  but  when 
your  host at the club, in the locker room, or on the Gold  Coast 
hands  it  to you on a silver tray, it's hospitality.  What's  Al 
Capone  done, then? He's supplied a legitimate demand. Some  call 
it bootlegging. Some call it racketeering. I call it a business." 
(53)  He put it even more succinctly on another occasion when  he 
told  a  woman "They talk about me not being on  the  legitimate. 
Why,  lady, nobody's on the legit., when it comes down to  cases; 
you know that." (54)
  As well as his commitment to the free enterprise system, Capone 
exhibited  a trait which he has seldom been given credit  for,  a 
broader commitment to American ideals and a fierce, if concealed, 
patriotism.  "My rackets are run on strictly American  lines  and 
they're  going to stay that way", he told one author.  (55)  And, 
"Don't get the idea that I'm one of these goddam radicals.  Don't 
get the idea that I'm knocking the American system." (56)
  This was Al Capone, entrepreneur, public servant. We know  what 
he  did; in his own words he provided a service, he was  a  busi-
nessman whose customers in turn provided hospitality. So what was 
Eliot Ness? And what did he do?
  In  his book, Ness boasts that on one raid alone  a  staggering 
$75,000  worth  of plant was seized. (57) On another  raid,  men-
tioned  on  page 94 of his book, Ness boasts that  six  men  were 
arrested  and  that  beer and equipment valued  at  $100,000  was 
destroyed. On page 162 of this 190 page catalogue of destruction, 
the  reader is told that it was difficult to find  breweries  be-
cause  he  and  his gang had closed more than  30  large  plants, 
seized  45  trucks  and destroyed millions of  dollars  worth  of 
equipment.  There  you  have it in his own words.  Ness,  at  the 
behest  of the United States Government, set out to  destroy  the 
livelihoods of ordinary people, and millions of dollars' worth of 
expensive capital equipment.  
  Earlier  I said that Al Capone's so-called rackets gave  people 
(dozens  or perhaps even hundreds of them) a  livelihood,  taking 
them  off the street. In fact, Capone's service to  society  goes 
far beyond that, because many of the people he employed were  the 
type  who then - and today - can find employment $only$  in  this 
sort of activity. It is a truism that once a dog has a bad  name, 
nobody  wants to go near it. Many of the people who  found  their 
way onto Scarface Al's payroll were ex-cons and assorted lowlife, 
[sic]  the sort of people no regular employer would want to  take 
on.  If  these gangsters, petty crooks and no-goods  hadn't  been 
engaged  in the production and distribution of bootleg booze,  it 
is  more than likely that the Devil would have  found  villainous 
work  for  their idle hands, and that they would  have  taken  to 
mugging old ladies, burglary, armed robbery, and worse. It is not 
too much of an exaggeration to say that, rather than contributing 
to the proliferation of crime in 1920s Chicago, Al Capone actual-
ly helped keep the crime rate down.


Capone The Peacemaker: Ness Lets The Cat Out Of The Bag


Although  in  his autobiography, Ness does his  best  to  portray 
Capone  as some sort of machine gun wielding vampire whose  hands 
were  dripping  with blood, we have established already  in  this 
short  study that Scarface Al was never convicted of  murder  and 
that  all  the allegations against him of racketeering  were  and 
remain nothing more than hearsay. There are people who will claim 
that  there  were so many rumours about Capone's  involvement  in 
Organised  Crime, including organised murder, that some  of  them 
must be true, but we must point out again that this simply is not 
the  case.  Let me draw an analogy with Jack the  Ripper.  Whilst 
there is no doubt at all that a number of women were murdered  in 
London's  Whitechapel  in the late 1880s, and little  doubt  that 
some  of  them were murdered by the same person,  who  was  never 
brought to justice, there are more theories about Jack the Ripper 
than most people have had hot dinners. 
  In  reality, most of these $theories$ are simply wild  specula-
tion,  likewise all or most of them are mutually  exclusive,  for 
the Ripper can hardly have been a policeman, a woman, a  gorilla, 
a  member  of the Royal family, the Queen's physician and  a  mad 
Russian doctor simultaneously. (58) By the same token, although a 
number  of  apparently  gang-related murders  were  committed  in 
Chicago  during the Capone era, there is no good  reason  anymore 
than  there  is any good evidence that all or any  of  them  were 
ordered  by  Al Capone. The simple fact is that Al Capone  was  a 
successful businessman, and as we have pointed out already,  such 
success, especially by a man of no great education who had  risen 
>from   relative poverty, generates envy, contempt, bitterness  and 
hatred  for its own sake. Probably 99% of the  unpleasant  things 
that have been written about Capone over the years had absolutely 
no  basis  in fact. And, it should never be  forgotten,  most  of 
these  unpleasant things were written by men like Eliot Ness,  or 
inspired by him and his ilk.
  Ness himself has done an excellent hatchet job on Capone, until 
one does some basic textual analysis and compares his wild asser-
tions  with the documented facts, but even as he is slagging  off 
this so-called gangster, he inadvertently lets the cat out of the 
bag, for, rather than being any sort of mass murderer, Al  Capone 
is revealed as a peace-loving man who actually $saved$ lives.  As 
always,  the proof of the pudding is in the eating: here is  what 
Ness says when he lets his guard down. 
  Capone  ruled Chicago "with an iron fist in a glove of  steel", 
(59)  but,  "Rarely did hate actuate him; when it  did,  however, 
those  who  had incurred his wrath were marked for  death."  (60) 
Rarely? This is a man who earlier, according to Ness, had ordered 
or  been responsible for some three hundred murders by  1929.  As 
Capone became a junior partner in so-called organised crime  only 
in  1920, (when Johnny Torrio succeeded 'Diamond Jim'  Colosimo), 
that  works out to three hundred murders in nine years, which  is 
about  thirty-three  a  year, ie more than one  a  fortnight.  In 
practice though, Capone wouldn't have been in a position to order 
murders until he became kingpin five years later, so allowing for 
him  having  killed a few people before - and where is  the  evi-
dence?  - we are looking at a man who, by Ness's earlier  reckon-
ing, must have been having people dispatched every few days. 
  Okay, what have we got so far? A man who was rarely angry,  yet 
ordered  people killed as frequently as most people change  their 
underwear.  Next, Ness tells his readers that when Capone was  in 
gaol  on  the bum firearm rap, the murder rate rose:  "There  had 
been  frequent gang murders in the few months preceding  Scarface 
Al's  return.  A serious breach was threatening  to  disrupt  the 
peace  treaty  Capone had negotiated at Atlantic City."  (61)  In 
other words, rather than ordering gang murders, Capone had  waged 
a  tireless battle against them and had even succeeded in  enfor-
cing a peace treaty. The reason he did this is not far to seek. 
  His  main  aim in life was to keep things running  smoothly  so 
that  his customers had a constant supply of liquor and  so  that 
the  profits  kept running in to his organisation.  Even  a  city 
which  was  as corrupt as Chicago allegedly was  would  not  have 
tolerated gang murders on such a scale, something would have been 
done.  And as Capone had been a big wheel from 1925, there is  no 
doubt that his activities would have been monitored closely since 
then.  As indeed they were. Yet in the end the only  things  they 
ever  got  him for were a firearm misdemeanour - for  which  they 
threw the book at him - and income tax evasion. As Capone himself 
said, "They finally got me for spitting on the sidewalk." (62)



Capone The Kind And Generous Man


Ness  and his ilk would have us believe that Al Capone  got  away 
with  his  crimes [sic] for so long not only because  of  endemic 
corruption but because he was feared by the people of Chicago. It 
may be that Capone was feared, certainly by the competition,  but 
it  is  far more likely that he was loved, for again,  by  Ness's 
admission,  he was generous to a tee. Ness says of  Capone  that, 
although  he was ruthless, he had "the quality of a  great  busi-
nessman" who exhibited "sound judgment, diplomatic shrewdness and 
the diamond-hard nerves of a gambler, all balanced by cold common 
sense."  (63) Capone was certainly an accomplished diplomat,  and 
like all diplomats he realised that persuasion was always prefer-
able to compulsion, although he was realistic enough to see  that 
in  a hard world, hard decisions have to be made, and that  while 
persuasion pays dividends, some people respect only force. He put 
this philosophy in a nutshell with "You can get much further with 
a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." (64)
  Though  Capone lived in a hard world, Ness, who graduated  from 
the  University  of Chicago, either didn't understand  or  didn't 
want  to  understand  the harsh realities  faced  by  street-wise 
businessmen  who  graduated from the school of hard  knocks.  He, 
after  all,  was  working for the  Federal  Government.  Whatever 
results he turned in, even if he didn't make a single arrest,  he 
was  still paid because his salary was underwritten by the  taxes 
of  the  people. But businessmen have to turn a profit  or  their 
enterprises go down the tubes. Of course Capone was ruthless, but 
who benefits from such ruthlessness and the resultant  cut-throat 
competition? The customer, of course! 
  And  Capone was certainly loved, or if he wasn't, he  was  most 
highly respected, for as Ness himself says "Capone never  carried 
less than $50,000 in cash, scattering $25 tips to hat check girls 
and  $100  gratuities  to waiters." (65) The  reader  should  ask 
himself if these are the acts of a hoodlum, of the kind of  scum-
bag  Ness  would have us believe Capone was. The simple  fact  is 
that  Capone,  as  stated, came from humble  origins,  and  never 
forgot it. What sort of man gives a waiter a hundred dollar  tip? 
(66)  How about a kind one? Capone was not just from  poor  immi-
grant stock, he was of Italian origin. It is likely that many  of 
his  family  and friends worked in and around  the  catering  and 
restaurant  trades,  a traditional stronghold  of  Italian  immi-
grants. Every time he saw a waiter he probably thought "There but 
for the grace of God go I". (67)
  Capone's legendary generosity even went so far as to offer Ness 
a  retainer, an offer the latter would have us believe  he  found 
insulting in the extreme. When a Capone foot soldier turned up at 
Ness's office with $2,000 in cash and promised him the same every 
week  "if you'll take it easy", Ness reacted angrily,  and,  like 
the  inveterate publicity seeker he was, went out of his  way  to 
prove  his incorruptibility. (68) At least, that's what he  tells 
us.  No  one  was arrested for this attempt to  bribe  a  Federal 
officer,  so it is quite possible or even likely that  Ness  made 
the  incident  up as part of his general campaign of  smears  and 
disinformation. Assuming it was true though, what was so terrible 
about an offer of two thousand dollars a week to "take it easy" ? 
  If  Ness had taken this money, he would have benefited,  Capone 
would have benefited, and, ultimately, the City of Chicago  would 
have saved money. Think again of all the people needlessly thrown 
out  of  work by the campaign of wanton  destruction  of  private 
enterprise engaged in by Ness and his cronies. Think again too of 
the  sort of people Capone was employing. How many of them,  laid 
off when their breweries were shut down and their jobs were axed, 
moved  effortlessly from the $underworld$ of Al Capone's  victim-
less  crimes  of selling liquor to willing buyers into  the  real 
underworld?  How  many old ladies were  mugged,  people  burgled, 
banks robbed, because these otherwise unemployable wretches  were 
denied the opportunity to earn an honest dollar by the caprice of 
a  bigoted  government and the simulated outrage of  one  of  its 
strong arm men?
  Ness  even had the nerve to try to kid his readers that it  was 
this  rejection  of Capone's largesse that earned  his  team  the 
label  the Untouchables. This is nonsense, as he knew full  well, 
for  a  man of his university education could  hardly  have  been 
unaware  of the natural meaning of this term. In  India,  certain 
classes of persons are referred to as Untouchables. The $Harijan$ 
include  those  in  certain occupations, such  as  those  killing 
cattle or disposing of dead cattle, and other "polluting  activi-
ties".  (69) The word Untouchable applied to Ness & co  was  then 
not a term of reverence but an insult, an epithet from the Indian 
sub-continent.  Ness and his team of $Untouchables$ were seen  by 
the  Chicago public not as purifiers of a corrupt system, but  as 
polluters, unwanted interlopers who had been ordered by a  menda-
cious, autocratic Federal Government to destroy the livelihood of 
one of the community's most respected figures, and, more  import-
antly from their point of view, to prevent them from enjoying the 
comforts of $the good creature of God$, just because some  little 
fart of a politician with the backing of Twentieth Century  Puri-
tans and killjoys had forced an act through Congress denying  the 
people their inalienable right to drink alcohol.


Persecuted,  Harassed, Slandered, Yet Even In Prison, Capone  Put 
Others First


Socialists are forever telling us that we should work for others, 
this  is  something called altruism. It's okay to  be  altruistic 
with other people's money, in particular the taxpayers', but when 
it comes to digging into their own pockets, that's when they  are 
found out. Capone though, always believed he had a duty to socie-
ty,  to put something back. The reader will recall that in  1929, 
Capone was gaoled on a bum firearm rap. The magistrate who  heard 
this  case said he would like to "[rid] the United States of  you 
for ever." (70)
  Surely  this  magistrate would have bit his tongue  if  he  had 
learned what Capone did while serving his sentence. While he  was 
in  prison,  he overheard some doctors discussing the case  of  a 
young  criminal  in the hospital who been shot  in  an  attempted 
hold-up;  they were going to amputate his arm. Capone said  "Save 
the  boy's arm. If it takes money, I'll be glad to pay  for  it." 
(71) This was a young punk Capone didn't know from Adam, yet  for 
him  such an act of extraordinary generosity and  compassion  was 
$de  rigueur$.  Incredibly though, there were those,  beside  the 
obviously envious and totally worthless Eliot Ness, who interpre-
ted  such  acts as further evidence of Capone's  supposedly  evil 
nature.


He Was Kind Therefore He Was Evil


Capone biographer Kenneth Allsop wrote that "His individual  acts 
of  charity,  from a fifty dollar loan to an outright gift  to  a 
destitute  Italian family, were many. He paid the hospital  bills 
of  a woman bystander wounded in a street gun-battle. It  is  not 
altogether  astonishing  that today there  are  many  respectable 
citizens in Chicago who speak glowingly of Capone's  philanthropy 
and  particularly point out that in the early Depression days  it 
was the Capone gang who set up the first soup-kitchens and block-
restaurants  for  the distribution of free food  on  Thanksgiving 
Day."  (72)  On one occasion, Capone sent $1,200 to  a  deserving 
Philadelphia orphanage. (73) Yet while Allsop writes that  Capone 
was  revealed in November 1930 as the mysterious  benefactor  who 
had  set up a huge soup-kitchen, he implies that his  motives  in 
doing  this were purely selfish, ie that he set it up  purely  so 
that the identity of the benefactor could be leaked to the media, 
in order to show himself in a favourable light. (74)


Other Persecutions And Anti-Capone Hysteria


As  we have demonstrated, Capone was hounded not simply by  Eliot 
Ness  but at times by what seemed like the entire  establishment. 
He was actually arrested many times, including for vagrancy! (75) 
On top of all that, the wildest rumours and nonsense were  spread 
about  him. It was said that Capone was taking a cut of the  tak-
ings  of slot machines in Copenhagen because they had  been  man-
ufactured in Chicago. (76) A book on Capone was banned by librar-
ies in London; (77) a man who wrote a book called $Carrying a Gun 
for Al Capone$ admitted later not only that he had never done any 
such thing but that he had never even been to Chicago! (78)  Some 
of this nonsense may have been inspired by media  sensationalism, 
or,  as most likely, in the case of the  fictitious  gun-carrying 
hood,  a  Walter Mitty personality, but the  astute  reader  will 
detect  here  the  hidden hand of Capone's  declared  enemies  in 
officialdom, who, as always, were backed up by the full  coercive 
power of the state. (79)

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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Capone Inspired Loyalty From Beyond The Grave


Further  evidence  of  the true nature of  Scarface  Al  surfaced 
thirty-three  years after his death. In August 1980, the  British 
weekly  $Titbits$ published the story of a woman who  claimed  to 
have been his lover, Amelia D'Argenio. (80) She was a young widow 
when she met Capone and he asked her out, and they quickly became 
lovers.  (81) Capone gave her an allowance which was the  equiva-
lent  of L150 a week, and said that he would have given her  any-
thing  in his power, and lavished fur coats, jewellery and  money 
on her. Curiously though she said "I never saw Al with a pistol", 
(82) which raises the possibility that Capone may even have  been 
fitted up outright for the firearm misdemeanour. (83)
  Capone's  former lover continued "Of course his 'boys'  carried 
guns - even machine guns - but only to protect their  interests." 
And  why shouldn't they have? Even Capone's  hostile  biographers 
don't  deny  that he was frequently targeted  for  assassination. 
(84)  Surely  this is a clear case of  defending  one's  property 
rights  and  even more importantly, one's life, by the  right  to 
bear  arms, which is enshrined in the US Constitution.  D'Argenio 
even says that "When he ordered a speakeasy to be blown up it was 
always  at night when nobody who was innocent would  be  killed." 
(85) This sounds like hearsay, again we must stress that there is 
no proof that Al Capone ever engaged in such criminal activity as 
bombing  rivals  or, as suggested here, against  people  who  had 
ripped  him off. But even if he did authorise strong arm  tactics 
occasionally  we have been given a bona fide reason for it  here. 
Because of the Draconian (and stupid) Prohibition law, people  in 
Capone's line of work who were ripped off had either to turn  the 
other cheek or exact summary justice. Bootleggers who turned  the 
other cheek wouldn't have stayed in business long. Here though is 
prima facie evidence that although Capone may have been a bit  of 
a  rough  diamond, he lived by his own moral code, and  that  the 
summary  justice he dispensed was neither excessive nor  adminis-
tered with either malice or recklessness.
  Capone was in fact in many ways a regular guy: "Al would  leave 
for the office every morning in his armoured car and come home at 
night in the same car". And his patriotism, which we have already 
alluded to, was evinced by the huge picture of George  Washington 
and  the Stars and Stripes he kept on his office wall. "He  loved 
America." (86)


A Sick Attempt To Impugn Capone's Patriotism


We  should  mention here an attempt to portray Capone  in  a  bad 
light which, although not as sick as portraying this great Ameri-
can  entrepreneur  as a mass murderer and crook,  is  pretty  low 
nevertheless.  In  $The Bootleggers$, Kenneth  Allsop  says  that 
Capone was not only fond of lying - including about his age - but 
that  he  was born in Italy, not America, as he  claimed.  Allsop 
says  that Capone was born January 6, 1895 at Castel  Amara  near 
Rome to his shopkeeper father Gabrielle and mother Theresa.  (87) 
The implication is of course that because Capone was not born  in 
America  he couldn't have been a $good American$. This  is  utter 
nonsense  because  America  was founded by  Europeans,  and  many 
contemporary  Americans  -  former President  Ronald  Reagan  for 
example  -  are intensely proud of their European (in  his  case, 
Irish)  heritage. But that doesn't for one moment mean that  they 
are not good Americans.
  In  any  case, this charge against Capone is  blatantly  false. 
Another  Capone biographer, John Kobler, reports that Capone  was 
indeed  born  in the United States, in Brooklyn, on  January  17, 
1899. (16) And, far from reducing his age, Capone actually  added 
a  year  to his official age. The reason for this  was  that  the 
fully assimilated all-American son of Italian immigrants  married 
an  Irish-American  (Mae  Coughlin), on December  18,  1918.  His 
bride-to-be  was  actually two years older  than  him,  something 
which  appears  to have embarrassed Capone, so  on  the  marriage 
certificate,  she lowered her age by one year, and  he  increased 
his  by  one. (88) [This is the sort of white  lie  anyone  would 
tell.] In any case, Capone's parents arrived in the United States 
in 1893, two years before - according to Allsop - Capone  himself 
was  born.  (89) Let us return now to the lies  and  innuendo  of 
Eliot Ness. 


A Strange Incident


As  most  people  know, Al Capone was finally  convicted  of  and 
gaoled for income tax evasion, but prior to his indictment a most 
curious  incident is reported by Ness. Following the murder of  a 
police  reporter who was said to have been on the take, a gun  in 
Ness's files disappeared. This gun was proved by forensic testing 
to  have  been one of the same batch as the weapon  used  in  the 
reporter's  murder,  and was thought initially to have  been  the 
same gun. Ness's reaction to the disappearance of the gun in  his 
files is strange indeed. He says: "The Capone gang - for it could 
be no other - had started to show its hand. They had entered  our 
offices, probably in the dead of night, and searched for evidence 
that  could  be destroyed." (90) Yeah, sure  Eliot,  but  Occam's 
Razor  gives us a far more plausible explanation. To begin  with, 
if the Capone $gang$ had been responsible, surely they would have 
destroyed  a  great deal more evidence, perhaps they'd  even  had 
bombed or torched the office. 
  Secondly,  the  obvious solution is that someone  with  regular 
access  to  the office - perhaps even Ness himself  -  made  this 
weapon  disappear. I wouldn't like to speculate as to the  reason 
Ness  or  one of his underlings would wish to  make  a  potential 
murder  weapon disappear, but even the dumbest of observers  must 
surely conclude that it is odd Ness should have blamed Capone for 
this  particular piece of legerdemain. Perhaps  the  Untouchables 
weren't quite so untouchable after all?


Trial And Conviction


Although Ness and his team did some impressive work in  gathering 
evidence against Capone (in a purely technical sense), it was the 
Revenue  agents who did the real damage. Capone  and  sixty-eight 
members of his syndicate were eventually indicted by a Grand Jury 
under the $Volstead Act$. This was based on evidence assembled by 
Ness  and  his  agents, but the tax case  took  precedence.  (91) 
Capone himself faced three indictments and a possible 34 years in 
gaol. (92)
  In  1989, Britain's leading Libertarian Chris Tame, (93)  wrote 
that  if a thug were to accost you in the street and demand  your 
wallet, you wouldn't hesitate to call his actions theft. (94) The 
$crime$ Al Capone was charged with was refusing to part with  his 
hard-earned  money,  not  to a street thug, but to  agents  of  a 
repressive  regime  of new, unhappy Puritans who  treated  people 
like  common criminals for doing what people of almost  all  cul-
tures have done since time immemorial, drinking alcohol. 
  It seems incredible that a law-abiding citizen whose only  real 
crime was a technical infringement of a firearms law, who created 
a vast business empire, who gave hundreds of people a livelihood, 
who  serviced  willing imbibers from all walks of  society,  who, 
even  by  his  avowed enemy's admission,  brought  peace  to  the 
streets  of Chicago, and undoubtedly saved lives, that a man  who 
did all this, should be treated like a common criminal and threa-
tened  with over thirty years in gaol because he decided he  knew 
better what to do with his money than the state. (95)
  In  spite of Capone's business acumen, he was naive  about  the 
law.  At  one point he objected "They can't collect  legal  taxes 
>from  illegal money." (96) Unfortunately for him this wasn't true. 
In  1921 a small time Carolina bootlegger named  Manley  Sullivan 
was  charged  with income tax evasion. He  didn't  challenge  the 
bootlegging  allegation but argued a point of law, that the  gov-
ernment was not allowed to tax illegal income. The case went  all 
the way to the Supreme Court. He lost. (97)
  Capone  was found guilty on counts 1, 5, 9, 13 and 18.  He  was 
also  given  6 months for contempt of court, was sentenced  to  a 
total  of  eleven years in gaol, fined a total  of  $50,000,  and 
ordered  to  pay $30,000 costs. As he left the courtroom  he  was 
served with an order to freeze his assets by a Revenue  official. 
(98)


The End Of Prohibition


Al  Capone  was  gaoled in October 1931 and served  most  of  his 
sentence  in  Alcatraz. In 1933, Prohibition was  ended  because, 
according  to  the $Encyclopedia Americana$, "the  nation's  most 
influential  people, as well as the general public,  acknowledged 
that it had failed. It had increased lawlessness and drinking and 
aggravated alcohol abuse." (99) Capone himself had gone on record 
as stating that "Prohibition has made nothing but trouble". (100) 
Indeed,  this  must have been apparent from almost  the  day  the 
$Volstead  Act$ was passed. In 1929, the U.S. assistant  attorney 
general in charge of liquor law prosecutions, a woman named Mabel 
Walker Willebrandt, resigned and became an attorney for the  wine 
industry.  (101) However, the real reason the great  $social  ex-
periment$  of Prohibition $failed$, had nothing whatsoever to  do 
with concern for increasing lawlessness, aggravated alcohol abuse 
or  anything  of the kind, Prohibition was  scrapped  for  purely 
commercial reasons, as we will see shortly.


Capone And Ness: Their Later Careers


Capone's last day in Alcatraz was January 6, 1939. His biographer 
John Kobler wrote that "For the misdemeanor of failing to file  a 
tax  return, he owed another year, reducible by good behavior  to 
about  ten months." (102) Again that phrase good behaviour  rears 
its head, somehow it is so out of character with the media  image 
of Capone which Ness and his sycophants and their spiritual heirs 
have built in the nearly five decades since Scarface Al's  death. 
On  his release, Capone lived quietly until his premature  death, 
not just a sick man but a broken one. 
  We  have demonstrated here I think that the myth of  Al  Capone 
mass  murderer and super-gangster was just that, a myth.  Another 
myth,  almost  as  big, is the myth that  Capone  was  fabulously 
wealthy.  Ness  claimed  that at one time Capone  was  worth  $50 
million.  (103) The $Encyclopedia Americana$ - which,  having  no 
axe  to grind, one would expect to be more reliable  -  estimated 
his  wealth  at his peak in 1927 at a  staggering  $100  million. 
(104)  Capone's last lawyer painted a different picture. To  wit, 
his client "never owned the sources of his once vast wealth."  He 
shared  with partners and the organisation. He was well  provided 
for but his property was heavily mortgaged and he had to pay  off 
back  taxes. (105) Ness's claim that Capone never carried  around 
less  than  $50,000 in cash (106) is obviously  nonsense  of  the 
first  order, but Capone's extraordinary personal generosity  and 
kindness were undoubtedly for real. He died January 25, 1947.
  Although Capone retired from public life with his gaoling, Ness 
did  not. The Untouchables were disbanded, but Ness  remained  in 
government service, and during World War Two he served as  Direc-
tor of Social Protection for the Federal Security Agency and  was 
given  the  appropriate task for an accomplished  brown-noser  of 
"combating venereal disease in and near every military establish-
ment  in the United States". (107) How he undertook this  awesome 
task the mind boggles, but the scatological, bird-brained nincom-
poops  who run the United States Government were  obviously  more 
than satisfied with his work, and he was awarded a medal for  it. 
He died of a heart attack on May 16, 1957. (108)


The Making Of Two Myths: TV Lends A Hand


The  Untouchables  were immortalised by an eponymous  TV  series, 
with  the  actor Robert Stack playing the title role.  There  was 
also  a  much more recent film with Kevin Costner  playing  Ness. 
Neither  Stack  nor Costner could be said to portray  Ness  as  a 
debonair sort, but Capone, where he appears in any dramatisation, 
is  portrayed as an overweight, unsightly thug, the  exact  alter 
ego  of the incorruptible Ness. Ness, let it never be  forgotten, 
was  a  man who, by his own admission, enforced a law  he  didn't 
really  believe in, who tapped people's telephones and  spied  on 
them  in numerous other ways, a man who took pride in  destroying 
wealth-creating private enterprise at the behest of a  megalithic 
Federal  Government which owed its very existence to the  efforts 
of  entrepreneurs like Al Capone. And, to cap it all,  this  same 
$gang-buster$,  this $Untouchable$, spent the Second  World  War, 
not in a military uniform, not even as a Federal agent, but as  a 
government  snoop inspecting toilets, lecturing soldiers  on  the 
evils  of promiscuity, or whatever it is that people  who  combat 
venereal disease are obliged to do to earn their sinecures.


Why Prohibition Was Really Repealed


The  $Encyclopedia  Americana's$ claim that Prohibition  was  re-
pealed because "the nation's most influential people, as well  as 
the  general  public, acknowledged that it had failed" is  a  lie 
that has been manufactured from the whole cloth. Many other  laws 
have $failed$, proved unworkable or counter-productive, but  that 
hasn't  prevented  them either from remaining in force  or  being 
strengthened.  The real reason for Prohibition's repeal has  less 
to  do  with either morality or concern for the  welfare  of  the 
people than with plain, old-fashioned economics. The reader  will 
recall  the signs hung outside the London gin shops  guaranteeing 
to  make their customers "drunk for one penny and dead drunk  for 
two  pence". Another common vice - besides drunkenness -  is  the 
demon  weed. During Prohibition, cigarettes retailed  for  around 
one  penny each! (109) Today, ie 1995, you won't get a bottle  of 
whisky for much less than fifteen quid, while fags will cost  you 
around two pounds fifty for twenty. (110)
  Granted that the prices of virtually all commodities will  have 
risen in actual if not real terms since the 18th Century or  even 
since the 1920s, (111) this still leaves a veritable crevasse  to 
fill.  And that crevasse has been filled almost entirely  by  one 
thing: tax.
  The  British daily newspaper $Today$ reported in  its  December 
10, 1994 issue the following price breakdown for booze, fags  and 
petrol:


In  each case the first price is the retail price, the second  is 
the  combined tax (duty, sales tax, VAT). The price is given  for 
20 Marlboro brand cigarettes and one litre of petrol; prices have 
been rounded to the nearest penny.

                    UK           Germany               Australia


Scotch           L12.00            L9.50                  L14.21     
                  L6.18            L3.50                   L6.11

Wine              L2.75               84p                  L1.10
(bottle)          L1.05                6p                     97p

Beer                 99p              40p                     60p     
                     22p               4p                     36p 

Cigs              L2.70            L1.90                   L2.54  
                  L1.15            L1.20                      89p

Petrol               60p              66p                     36p
(leaded)             36p              48p                      3p

Petrol               53p              60p                     35p
(unleaded)           31p              40p                      3p


It will be seen from the above table that prices vary considerab-
ly  -  as one would expect - from country to country, as  do  the 
duties on the various products. In Germany, the duty on  unleaded 
petrol makes up a staggering two thirds of its price at the pumps 
while  in Australia it is less than (less than!) 10%.  (112)  The 
reason  for the low [sic] duty on petrol in Australia is  clearly 
because  of  the  size of the country. Like  the  United  States, 
people often have to travel vast distances in the course of their 
work  or daily lives. On the other hand, although Australia is  a 
wine  producing country, the tax on a bottle of wine makes  up  a 
staggering  88+% of the cost price! Clearly this tax  is  totally 
unnecessary except for the purposes of a) regulating the  average 
Aussie's lifestyle, (113) and b) ripping off the consumer for the 
express  purpose of funding an inflated and  totally  unnecessary 
bureaucracy.
  Here then is why the so-called great experiment of  Prohibition 
failed,  the social policy makers decided that it would  be  much 
more  worthwhile  to legalise booze in order  to  facilitate  yet 
another  gigantic rip-off of the already oppressed  public.  This 
was the reason, the only reason, the American Government admitted 
its mistake and repealed the Prohibition law. And it may  eventu-
ally  be the same reason which leads to the repeal of that  other 
and even more outrageous form of Prohibition, the war on drugs. A 
short  survey  of  this will conclude the  current  study,  first 
though,  let us take a brief look at another, and far  less  well 
known  aspect  of Prohibition, that of the oppression  of  ethnic 
minorities.


An Unexplored Facet Of The Campaign Against Al Capone


We come now to an aspect of the government sponsored campaign  to 
destroy  Al  Capone  which has been written out  of  the  history 
books.  Capone's cardinal sin was that he gave people  what  they 
wanted  and  was spectacularly successful into the  bargain.  His 
other sin is that although he was white, he was Latin rather than 
Anglo-Saxon. This $ethnic bias$ - to put it euphemistically - was 
something  that  was very prevalent then and is still  so  today, 
though now it manifests itself primarily in the war on drugs, but 
also to some extent in the campaign against that other taboo free 
market, prostitution.
  Capone  was of course far from the only American $gangster$  of 
Latin heritage in the 1920s, and Latins were not the only  minor-
ity involved in servicing a thirsty public, the bootleg  industry 
was  also  heavily  Jewish. The Jewish  $gangster$  Meyer  Lansky 
(1902-83)  was  one of many others besides Capone et al  who  was 
harassed  not  only  on account of his services  to  free  market 
capitalism  but also because of his birth. Under the Law  of  Re-
turn,  any Jew born anywhere in the world has the right  to  emi-
grate  to  Israel; Lansky was refused entry to the  country,  un-
questionably  under pressure from the United  States  Government. 
"When  you're a Jew," he said, "the whole world's  against  you." 
(114)
  Lansky  should have said "When you're not Anglo-Saxon", for  it 
wasn't  just  the Jews and the Italians, indeed  nowadays  it  is 
hardly  them  at all - as most of them have moved up  the  social 
ladder  into $legitimate$ businesses. Nowadays it is,  primarily, 
if you're black, you'll find the authorities jumping on you  from 
a great height when you try to make an honest dollar by providing 
a  service which the United States Government in its  wisdom  has 
decided  that its citizens are to be denied the pleasure of.  The 
majority of drug dealers in most American inner cities are black, 
and a great many of those working the streets as whores and pimps 
are  black. Whatever one may think of whores or the men who  live 
off them, there is no element of compulsion in any such  transac-
tion.  No $john$ has to seek out the services of a hooker.  (115) 
Leaving  aside  the Puritan mentality of many of the  people  re-
sponsible  for  drafting social policy in the United  States,  in 
view of the experience of Capone and that enlightening protest of 
Lansky,  the continued outlawing of a substantial sector  of  the 
free  market under the pretext of saving people  from  themselves 
(116)  is  nothing  less than part of the - for  the  most  part, 
invisible  - class structure of the United States. And  one  that 
ensures  that  if  your face doesn't fit,  particularly  if  it's 
black, you stay right at the bottom.


The  Evil Legacy Of Eliot Ness: The War On Drugs And The  End  Of 
The Rule Of Law


One pundit has written of Al Capone that he was "the creation and 
the  victim of his times". (117) This is indeed true. It is  also 
true that the current generation is the victim of Capone's times, 
because  while  their good dies with them, the evil that  men  do 
lives  after them, and few men did more evil than Eliot Ness  and 
the other servants of the corrupt system of statist repression he 
and they helped to create and maintain. Although Eliot Ness  died 
in 1957, his evil legacy is all around in the United States,  and 
manifests  itself  in the Draconian legislation  which  has  been 
ushered through Congress by the tactic of frightening and wilful-
ly deceiving the public in the phony war on drugs.
  The  drug  menace is so terrible, so all-encompassing,  such  a 
threat to the survival of civilisation, we are told, that it must 
be stamped out by any means necessary. The simple fact though  is 
that any man, woman or child can walk into their local supermark-
et and buy poison, be it boot polish or Vitamin D. (118) The idea 
that  such  commonplace commodities should be  regulated  because 
they  can be dangerous if misused has never quite caught  on.  It 
could  be that recreational drugs have been singled out  for  the 
simple  reason that they are recreational, as is  alcohol.  What-
ever,  the  Draconian laws that have been foisted upon  the  good 
citizens of America - and other countries - in order, ostensibly, 
to  combat  the non-existent drug menace, are now  being  quietly 
extended to other areas.
  The  April 1995 issue of the British Libertarian journal  $Free 
Life$  reported  the following horror story, one  such  as  could 
never have happened in Nazi Germany or even in Soviet Russia.  In 
1992, a woman in Iowa who was accused of shoplifting a $25  swea-
ter had her $18,000 automobile - which had been specially  equip-
ped for her handicapped daughter - seized as a getaway car! (119) 
This was made possible by civil asset forfeiture legislation,  in 
particular  the $Comprehensive Forfeiture Act 1984$.
  Civil asset forfeiture legislation was designed to inhibit  so-
called racketeering, which in Ness's day was centred on booze but 
is today centred on drugs. One 1992 report claimed that an  esti-
mated  $85 billion of illegal drug money a year was  being  laun-
dered through banks in the United States and Europe. (120)  While 
a  certain  amount of illegal drug money - perhaps even  a  great 
deal  - is without doubt $laundered$ through the  banking  system 
and  legitimate businesses, it is most unlikely that this  figure 
has any basis in fact, or if the true figure can even be  reason-
ably estimated. (121)
  Such legislation as civil asset forfeiture is nothing less than 
a direct and wilful usurpation of the rule of law, and has conse-
quences  for  every citizen which make it possible - and  in  the 
near  future  probable - that anytime he (or she)  steps  out  of 
line, he will be jumped on from a great height by the powers that 
be.  Imagine  the following scenario. You are  a  publisher;  you 
publish a book or magazine which is highly critical of a  govern-
ment  agency, or exposes police corruption. After an  $anonymous$ 
tip off the police raid your premises and find (or plant)  traces 
of  cocaine on a dollar bill in your safe. (122) They  confiscate 
your  business, your bank account, the lot. (123)  Theoretically, 
this course of action could be used against the wealthiest men in 
the country as a catch-all device to confiscate all their assets. 
So, if your name is Bill Gates and a police officer performing  a 
$random$  search  at a road block happens to $find$ a  spliff  in 
your car, you can kiss goodbye to Microsoft.
  Anti-drug hysteria has also led to a law which makes it  manda-
tory  to record all cash transactions over $10,000. Such  regula-
tion and people control must lead not only inevitably to  tyranny 
but to the strangulation of the economy. It is this which is  the 
true legacy of Eliot Ness, and frankly, the society which  turned 
him and his kind into heroes, deserves everything it gets. 


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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In article <478vn3$l44@amhux3.amherst.edu>
           jaklein@unix.amherst.edu "Josh Klein" writes:
 
> Can't have what bpth ways, Mr. Baron?  Does the fact that Jewish guerillas
> were resisting Nazi invasions of their home countries excuse the
> brutal murder of civilians?  (

I don't see any justification for war, but that's another matter.


> I seem to remember your posting some criticism of Irving that was
> mainly preoccupied with your suspicions of his homosexuality.
> Of course, this speical obsession of yours only makes you seem
> even more repulsive to the vast majority of this newsgroup's
> readers.

Suspicion? I sent you the wrong book, Josh!

> Churchill was a man of some honor, Mr. Baron.  

You really have been brainwashed if you believe that. By the way, did you 
realise that Churchill advocated eugenics? And that he wanted to bomb Germany
with anthrax?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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From: Alexander Baron 
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In article <47e8m0$luu@dns.enter.net> yawen@enter.net "Yale F. Edeiken" writes:

You have claimed that someone said "Al Baron is an 
> anti-Semite because he called David Irving a liar." or words to that effect. I
>  say 
> it's a lie.  Prove me wrong, Lyin' Al.

Why don't you ring up the editor of Searchlight? Or the editor of the Jewish
Chronicle? I think if you do you'll find the cat has got their tongues.
 

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Sun Nov  5 10:36:04 PST 1995
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In article <47fvah$u3a@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
           gmcfee@ibm.net "Gord McFee" writes:

 
> Mr. Baron testifies to his virulent anti-Semitism every time he opens his 
> mouth.

You people take yourselves so seriously I'm astounded. You really don't 
appreciate what utter schmucks you are.


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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In article <47ee7u$hok@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
           jmorris@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca "John Morris" writes:

> What makes you think that I am that interested enough to pay for the
> warped opinions and unintelligent, dishonest misreadings of a little
> man like you? 

Okay, you're not interested. So don't ask me anymore questions.


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Sun Nov  5 10:36:05 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron 
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In article <47dqur$oir@atlas.uniserve.com>
           hostrov@uniserve.com "Hilary Ostrov" writes:

> But I didn't know this (or utter it) until 1995.  Go ahead, Mr. Baron,
> make my day ... call me a liar, too. 

For the Nth time I had no idea the Mueller Report was a fabrication, AND AS
SOON AS  THE FORGERY WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION I DISOWNED IT.

You people on the other hand are so far gone that you will do anything but 
admit that a Jew - Kitty Hart - has told a pack of absurd lies. I was taken in
by a credible forgery. Your deception is self-deception


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Sun Nov  5 10:36:06 PST 1995
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In article 
           cendbj@bonaly.hw.ac.uk "David Johnston" writes:
 
> Does this not strike you as a little odd? If he is a "committed Libertarian", 
> why does he support the "screwing" of money out of people who stock (not even 
> publish) a "certain" magazine? Why do you, for that matter? Are you only a 
> libertarian providing nobody disagrees with you? Or just a hypocrite?

No, but unlike you I know what free speech means. If someone were to denouce
you to the police for murdering your wife and burying her in the back garden
you wouldn't be surprised if the police charged him with wasting police time.
There is such a thing as property right in one's reputation. Also, when one
is assaulted as a result of other people's malice that too goes beyond free
speech.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Jewish Chronicle endorses conspiracy crank
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It had to happen, the newspaper that wails and whines about conspiracies
more than any other has finally gone full circle. The latest Jewish Chronicle
contains an in-depth interview with one of the fakers of the MJ-12 saucer
crash documents. I suppose I should have realised that with a name like
Stanton Friedman this former nuclear physicist was Jewish. What will they
endorse next, the Protocols of Zion?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Sun Nov  5 10:36:07 PST 1995
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Two Israeli businessmen have just been arrested in Turkey where they face
heavy gaol sentences for the "crime" of smuggling heroin, according to the latest
Jewish Chronicle.

According to Harry Mazal, such men are evil poisoners of our children. Baron
on the other and recognises them for what they are: latter day Al Capones
bridging the gap between willing sellers and buyers.

It remains to be seen which of us, Baron or Mazal is truly an anti-Semite.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Sun Nov  5 10:36:08 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Frivolous litigation?
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So-called anti-racists in France have dropped a legal action against the 
publishers of an "offensive bible" which refers to Jews as God killers.

Who'd want to bring an action for defamation to exonerate one's ancestors
for the alleged crime of murdering a schizophrenic in Palestine 2,000 years ago?
Assuming he existed, that is?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Sun Nov  5 10:36:09 PST 1995
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In article <814875750snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>
           A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk "Alexander Baron" writes:

> In article <199510271456.PAA20870@utopia.hacktic.nl>
>            byersl@ucsu.colorado.edu "Western" writes:
>  
> > >Mr. Farrakahan,
> > 
> > >My name is Rufus Washington.  I am a 25 year old oppressed black man.
> > >I dropped out of school at 14  to pursue a career in dealing drugs,
> > >and I have been in and out of jail ever since. 
> 
> You are oppressed, Mr Washington. Specifically you are oppressed by a system
> that turns you into an outlaw by criminalising your legitimate business of
> providing willing buyers - black and white - with a narcotic substance for 
> recreational use. The very same system criminalised Al Capone 70 years ago
> for providing a similar public service. It is not racism but mass hysteria
> and collective psychosis. What you should do is lobby for the legalisation 
> of crack, cocaine and heroin.


Much as I hate to follow up on my own message, I don't recall posting this in
alt.smokers and wonder if anybody can tell me how it got here.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Sun Nov  5 10:43:55 PST 1995
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In article <814875750snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>
           A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk "Alexander Baron" writes:

> In article <199510271456.PAA20870@utopia.hacktic.nl>
>            byersl@ucsu.colorado.edu "Western" writes:
>  
> > >Mr. Farrakahan,
> > 
> > >My name is Rufus Washington.  I am a 25 year old oppressed black man.
> > >I dropped out of school at 14  to pursue a career in dealing drugs,
> > >and I have been in and out of jail ever since. 
> 
> You are oppressed, Mr Washington. Specifically you are oppressed by a system
> that turns you into an outlaw by criminalising your legitimate business of
> providing willing buyers - black and white - with a narcotic substance for 
> recreational use. The very same system criminalised Al Capone 70 years ago
> for providing a similar public service. It is not racism but mass hysteria
> and collective psychosis. What you should do is lobby for the legalisation 
> of crack, cocaine and heroin.


Much as I hate to follow up on my own message, I don't recall posting this in
alt.smokers and wonder if anybody can tell me how it got here.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Sun Nov  5 10:56:34 PST 1995
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In article <814875750snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>
           A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk "Alexander Baron" writes:

> In article <199510271456.PAA20870@utopia.hacktic.nl>
>            byersl@ucsu.colorado.edu "Western" writes:
>  
> > >Mr. Farrakahan,
> > 
> > >My name is Rufus Washington.  I am a 25 year old oppressed black man.
> > >I dropped out of school at 14  to pursue a career in dealing drugs,
> > >and I have been in and out of jail ever since. 
> 
> You are oppressed, Mr Washington. Specifically you are oppressed by a system
> that turns you into an outlaw by criminalising your legitimate business of
> providing willing buyers - black and white - with a narcotic substance for 
> recreational use. The very same system criminalised Al Capone 70 years ago
> for providing a similar public service. It is not racism but mass hysteria
> and collective psychosis. What you should do is lobby for the legalisation 
> of crack, cocaine and heroin.


Much as I hate to follow up on my own message, I don't recall posting this in
alt.smokers and wonder if anybody can tell me how it got here.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Mon Nov  6 11:05:36 PST 1995
Article: 13776 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: Al Baron's "documentation" of Ritual Murder?
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In article  t08o@unb.ca "MORRISON  KEITH MURRAY" writes:

> In article <815270533snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> Alexander Baron
>   writes:
> 
> >I believe I had some correspondence with Jamie about this awhile ago. There
> >were quite a few confessions, Rabbi Jossel confessed for one. Bear in mind
> >that I do not believe Jews ever practiced ritual murder, what I am saying is
> >that there is confession and other evidence that they did. The same way there
> >is confession and other evidence of gas chambers.
> 
> 
> Please state was piece of evidence *other* than testimony you have to this 
> effect.

They dug up some bones. Read the book THE MYTH OF RITUAL MURDER

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Mon Nov  6 11:05:37 PST 1995
Article: 13833 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Put Up Or Shut Up
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In article <47casl$90s@nimitz.fibr.net>
           Harry W. Mazal OBE "hmazal@txdirect.net, San Antonio, Texas" writes:



I've just received a batch of messages from the Archive Manager who (is this
a person or a machine?) says they haven't been posted, so I'm posting them
here. I thought they had been, but what the Hell.



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> Ah.  Then you admit that this talk about what your lawyers will or won't let
> you say was another Baron Lie(tm).
>
> Amazing.  Not that any of this would be true, mind, but amazing that you'd
> admit it.


No, stupid. I have a lawyer who is acting for me on two other matters, my
claim against the police and a claim for criminal injuries. I decided also
to take procedural advice. I do all my own drafting, affidavits etc, but
the law of libel is so incredibly complex that it is extremely difficult
for a litigant in person. Most people are surprised I've got this far. The
rest are worried about how far I will get.


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> Howdy..

Howdy. Your posting is a tissue of distortions.

> After observing the Mazal/Baron war for the past months, I just thought an
> opinion might be in order. IMHO, Baron is a PITA litigious anti-Semite. As
> a journalist/author of sorts, he uses the Crown Courts to gain needed
> publicity, although I never heard of him before alt.revisionism.

Do you know what allegations I am suing over? If you don't, hold your tongue.


>In the UK, monetary awards are not decided by
> a jury, but instead calculated by a complicated process called
> Quantitative, and they relate to actual loss rather than the whims of a
> jury. 85k for a civil damages suit is enormous by British standards.

Wrong.


> Libel and slander cases in the UK border on the comical. While the Crown
> Prosecution Service is well known for refusing to prosecute rapists,

The CPS NEVER prosecutes rapists because no rapist is ever prosecuted.
ALLEGED rapists are prosecuted. The CPS will not bring a case unless it has
a reasonable chance, or unless there is meaningful evidence.

>those
> who assault, and major criminals, people like William Roache (a popular
> soap opera character 'Ken Barlow') are awarded large sums for being called
> 'boring.'

You cannot compare the civil law with the criminal law.

It would seem Mr Baron's suits are about on the same level, and
> appropriately, seem to be successful. In the US, his cases would be
> laughed out of court. Mr Baron's frivolous litigation is unmentioned in
> the UK press, AFAIK, and has little if any impact beyond Mr Barons wallet.

How can you call my litigation frivolous if you don't know what it is about?


> Mr Baron's vituperative replies to posts here usually consist of rebuttal
> by 'you can't really believe that is possible, do you?" logic. That is
> usually the crux of his rebuttal: his own opinions and values, sans
> evidence.

In a court of law, EVIDENCE is required. In an English court, hearsay is
not evidence.

> It also seems strange to me that Mr Baron kept tantalizing us with
> "October 22!!!", but he disappeared on the day before, and only reappeared
> three days ago, on demon's server. Why the absence? It all goes to
> credibility, which Mr Baron is losing fast, IMHO.

The problem is your server; I've been on every day.


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>
>  What you should do is lobby for the legalisation
>   of crack, cocaine and heroin.
>
> Does Mr. Baron indulge in the use of any of the above? Do his children?

No.


> Does he really believe that  legalization of these drugs will make the
> world a safer place for his children?

Harry, when they start talking about defending your children they are
really talking about destroying your rights.

> How successful was the British experiment that allowed drug users to
> obtain drugs at a low cost?

Heroin, concaine? Enlighten me.

> Enquiring minds wish to know.  Some Libertarians espouse this
> philosophy including my admired friend, Dr. Milton Friedman.


More to the point, what right does a boring old fart like you have to tell
a black man that he has no right to sell drugs or a man of any race what
he mayt or may not shove up his own nose?


--
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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> This is but one of many such examples - once, Baron confused
> the gas chambers of Treblinka and Auschwitz.

Dan, I've read the War Refugee Board Report intently, and I know the
alleged layout of these "gas chambers". In spite of the numerous contradictions.




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> No Jew, to my knowledge, has ever confessed to "ritual murder" except
> under torture. 

Wrong!

> There is no documentary evidence, bar proven forgeries,
> of Jewish ritual murder.  

Wrong!
>There is no physical evidence of Jewish ritual
> murder.  

Wrong!

>There are no eyewitnesses to any act of Jewish ritual murder.

Wrong!

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy




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Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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From: Alexander Baron 
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In article <814875750snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>
           A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk "Alexander Baron" writes:

> In article <199510271456.PAA20870@utopia.hacktic.nl>
>            byersl@ucsu.colorado.edu "Western" writes:
>  
> > >Mr. Farrakahan,
> > 
> > >My name is Rufus Washington.  I am a 25 year old oppressed black man.
> > >I dropped out of school at 14  to pursue a career in dealing drugs,
> > >and I have been in and out of jail ever since. 
> 
> You are oppressed, Mr Washington. Specifically you are oppressed by a system
> that turns you into an outlaw by criminalising your legitimate business of
> providing willing buyers - black and white - with a narcotic substance for 
> recreational use. The very same system criminalised Al Capone 70 years ago
> for providing a similar public service. It is not racism but mass hysteria
> and collective psychosis. What you should do is lobby for the legalisation 
> of crack, cocaine and heroin.


Much as I hate to follow up on my own message, I don't recall posting this in
alt.smokers and wonder if anybody can tell me how it got here.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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In article <814875750snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>
           A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk "Alexander Baron" writes:

> In article <199510271456.PAA20870@utopia.hacktic.nl>
>            byersl@ucsu.colorado.edu "Western" writes:
>  
> > >Mr. Farrakahan,
> > 
> > >My name is Rufus Washington.  I am a 25 year old oppressed black man.
> > >I dropped out of school at 14  to pursue a career in dealing drugs,
> > >and I have been in and out of jail ever since. 
> 
> You are oppressed, Mr Washington. Specifically you are oppressed by a system
> that turns you into an outlaw by criminalising your legitimate business of
> providing willing buyers - black and white - with a narcotic substance for 
> recreational use. The very same system criminalised Al Capone 70 years ago
> for providing a similar public service. It is not racism but mass hysteria
> and collective psychosis. What you should do is lobby for the legalisation 
> of crack, cocaine and heroin.


Much as I hate to follow up on my own message, I don't recall posting this in
alt.smokers and wonder if anybody can tell me how it got here.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: Why not make more of the Mueller Document forgery?
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In article <475fse$jds@dns.enter.net> yawen@enter.net "Yale F. Edeiken" writes:


>    I wrote no such thing.  Apology please.
> 

If it wasn't you, who was it? Harry? 

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article 
           warren@nysernet.org "Warren Burstein" writes:

> In <814822761snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> Alexander Baron
>   writes:
> 
> >Baron is still in litigation, and his wallet has never been fatter.
> 
> Does Baron have any other source of income besides his publications
> and lawsuits?

Yes, he pimps off his Jewish girlfriend.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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Subject: Re: Put Up Or Shut Up
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In article <474nb3$oas@nimitz.fibr.net>
           Harry W. Mazal OBE "hmazal@txdirect.net, San Antonio, Texas" writes:


> border on sedition to show that Libertarian freedom of expression is still alive> in this country...no matter how offensive the material.\

Harry, if someone incited your murder - as a named individual - and you were to
file charges, you would have my 100% support.
 
> But I forgot. Mr. Baron is a Libertarian of the highest order. One who would 
> let little children buy cocaine freely on the market. 

Harry, when did I ever say I would allow children to buy cocaine? What I said
was when people like you start talking about defending our children what you
really mean are destroying our rights. I take it you think that consenting 
adults do not have the right to use cocaine?


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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Subject: Re: Why not make more of the Mueller Document forgery?
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In article <474o0i$oas@nimitz.fibr.net>
           Harry W. Mazal OBE "hmazal@txdirect.net, San Antonio, Texas" writes:
Any person with the slightest amount of dignity would
> give any such moneys to charity raher than crow about a supposed success.

Some of this money came from a charity. One that stocks newspapers that incite
the murders of policmen and judges. (Incidentally, the Lord Chief Justice, 
Lord Taylor, is Jewish, so such incitements might be construed as anti-Semitic).


> The reality is that much of what was settled on Mr. Baron in order to eliminate
> tedious litigation, was garnished in another court to pay for his failed effort
> to sue fine and upright citizens of that fair country. 

Cut the crap Harry and answer MY questions.

-- 
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article  dkeren@world.std.com "Daniel Keren" writes:

 
> The Treblinka gas chambers were not connected to any crematoria; 
> Baron made a (typically idiotic) extrapolation from Treblinka
> to Auschwitz.

You're forgetting something Dan; they were not gas chambers in Treblinka
but steam chambers. Now who's a zero?

-- 
Alexander Baron

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In article <475fao$jds@dns.enter.net> yawen@enter.net "Yale F. Edeiken" writes:


>   You are, as usual, dodging the question.  The question is not whether the 
> photographs were published but whether they were staged.  Why can't you 
> answer this simple question?

To the best of my knowledge they were not staged; I think you will find
this sort of thing is not disputed by former British prisoners of war.

-- 
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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: Oh where, oh where, has Al Baron gone?  Oh where, oh where can he be?
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In article  dkeren@world.std.com "Daniel Keren" writes:

 Since the baby was on the floor, that
> has increased its chances of survival, because HCN gas is lighter
> than air and rises. 

So people were gassed with a lighter than air gas that was dropped from the
ceiling?

 This claim makes no sense. Birkenau

> was an extermination camp, and we know (even Baron agrees to this)
> that the SS burned people alive in other camps. 

You're trying it on again, Dan. What Baron said (yawn) was that an atrocity
at a German camp (Wobbelin?) at the end of the war involved a group of SS
setting a barn afire with people in it. This was a war time atrocity, not
part of any extermination programme. I do not concede that people were 
burnt alive in ovens. Dig?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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In article <475oru$srk@amhux3.amherst.edu>
           jaklein@unix.amherst.edu "Josh Klein" writes:

> Oh, Mr. Baron, when will you ever stop using the rather inept analogy
> of belief in flying saucers.  Does the so-called flying saucer
> conspiracy involve the creation of flying-saucer remains?  Does it
> involve the signed confessions of numerous aliens, and the recorded
> speech of one high-up alien talking about how he intends to visit earth?
> Does it include intercepted wartime transmissions between flying
> saucers, or the diaries and correspondence of officers aboard the
> flying saucers?
> 
> I think that you are underestimating just how huge and complex
> a conspiracy would have to be in order to fool people into
> believing in the Holocaust.

Once again Josh, you are putting the word conspiracy in my mouth. I never
said there was any such thing.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: A reminder to Mr. Baron (Re: The Exterminationist Guidebook)
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In article <4756al$d8@mn5.swip.net>
           stephane.bruchfeld@mailbox.swipnet.se "Stephane Bruchfeld" writes:


> That is a reasonable principle. But what is the nature of this
> ignorance? Is it that you are not aware of the massive
> documentation that exists about mass killings of Jews by the
> various special units in the Soviet Union under German
> occupation, or that you are not - as yet - sufficiently prepared,
> as a denier, to deal with this evidence?
> However, since you haven't disagreed with my interpretation, i.e.
> that the documents constitute evidence of mass murder of Jews in
> the autumn of 1941 and that they furthermore indicate the change
> to a coded language, I take it that you do not find it, at face
> value, an unreasonable interpretation. Am I correct in my
> assumption?

I agree with the judgment of Dr Butz that a great deal of killing went on
on the Eastern front, including of civilians. These things happen in war;
this was not genocide though. Furthermore, the Jewish Chronicle and other
Jewish sources boast that Jewish partisans were heavily involved in the 
fight on the Eastern front, so you can't have it both ways.


> Mr. Baron, is there anything you have published about your
> researches that I may order from you? Is there anything
> especially concerning Auschwitz? What would you consider to be
> your main contribution to the knowledge about this camp?

My main contribution is yet to come! My book is called HOLOCAUST DENIAL: NEW
NAZI LIE or NEW INQUISITION? I have also published a documented expose of
David Irving, including of his lies and perjury. For this I am branded an
anti-Semite. I'll send you a list if you like.


> From the perspective of the victim it probably does not matter
> very much, but it is of course important to make the difference
> between all too common atrocities and genocide. In this case, if
> I understand you correctly, you mean to say that the Germans did
> commit atrocities but were not guilty of genocide. For the sake
> of the argument, since I wish to learn where you draw the line,
> let us assume that the Germans did systematically line up and
> kill Jewish civilians, men, women and children, over all of the
> conquered territory in the autumn of 1941? Mr. Baron, would you
> then agree to call this genocide, or attempted genocide? Or would
> you consider it more correct to use the descripion "atrocity"? 

I would call this war time atrocities, since I believe that Jewish suffering
is no worse and no better than anyone else's. These things happen in war.
Churchill could have stopped them by agreeing to Hitler's magnanimous peace
terms. He was at least as responsible as Hitler for the Second World War,
undoubtedly more so after 1941.

 

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Why not make more of the Mueller Document forgery?
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In article <4764kb$r8v@access5.digex.net>
           mstein@access5.digex.net "Michael P. Stein" writes:

> In article <814976199snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>,
> Alexander Baron   wrote:
> >Harry, I have two court orders in my favour, other people's money in my 
> >pocket and more to come.
> 
>     Excuse me?  I thought you said you were offered and accepted a
> settlement, which implies no court ruled on the merits of your case. 

I have settled with several of the defendants. In England an order of the
court has to be made: a consent order.
 
>     As for other people's money in your pocket, that's a frequent
> occurrence in this country, where even defendants who would clearly
> prevail at trial settle simply because the expense of litigation exceeds
> the amount at issue. 

This works both ways.

 Now, I realize that in Britain a successful
> defendant can recoup expenses from the losing plaintiff, but that requires
> that the plaintiff be sufficiently well-heeled to pay said expenses.
>  If
> you lose your suit, do you have enough money to cover the legal expenses
> of the defendants?  

I can't comment on this case, but the thought of losing this suit has never
crossed my mind.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Is Jamie McCarthy totally spineless or totally credulous?
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In article 
           karlpov@access5.digex.net "Charles R.L. Power" writes:


> You have not yet gotten even close to proving your endless whining about
> this Kitty Hart's mendacity. First, the story she told remains quite 
> plausible, 

riotous laughter.

and second, there is no reason to believe that she did not 
hear such a story,

well, I've heard a story that AIDS was invented by the US government to wipe
out blacks. I've also heard a story that a Jewish doctor invented the polio
vaccine to poison American children. Like Hart's story these are obscene,
absurd, and hate.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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Subject: Re: Is Jamie McCarthy totally spineless or totally credulous?
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In article  t08o@unb.ca "MORRISON  KEITH MURRAY" writes:

 
> WRONG!  There is no *undisputable* film of aliens or UFOs.  There is, 
> however, totally undisputable films showing the existance of concentration 
> camps.  As well, there are physical remains of the concentration camps, 
> there are none of UFOs.  Physical evidence is not just film, so grow up.

Tut tut, equivocating again. In the first paragraph you were talking about
extermination camps, now you're talking about concentration camps.


> WRONG!  There are official documents to the Holocaust that *no one* has 
> proven forged.  And if Phil Klass proved it forged, it is not an official 
> document, is it?


Yes, but these documents don't prove exterminations!
> >How many millions of people does it take to pass and enforce laws making
> >Revisionism illegal? How many people does it take to freeze Revisionists out
> >of the media and academia? Not many. This has happened.
> 
> 
> Non-sequitor.  Answer the question.


The point I was making is that there are plenty of people who dispute your
version of events, they just don't get the sort of media exposure you do.


> >Many "perpetrators" have denied it. In fact most of them blamed other people.
> >The judge at the Auschwitz trial said he had yet to meet anyone who had
> >done anything at Auschwitz!
> 
> 
> Citations please.  I do not accept your word for anything.

a) Are you calling me a liar?
b) If I give you a citation, will you retract and apologise?
c) When you call me a liar, that's fine. When I call someone a liar, 
that's anti-Semitism.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article  t08o@unb.ca "MORRISON  KEITH MURRAY" writes:

> In article <815127617snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> Alexander Baron
>   writes:
> 
> 
> >> No Jew, to my knowledge, has ever confessed to "ritual murder" except
> >> under torture. 
> 
> >Wrong!
> 
> 
> Citation!  Talk shows are irrelevant.

Oh no they're not.
> 
> 
> >> There is no documentary evidence, bar proven forgeries,
> >> of Jewish ritual murder.  
> 
> >Wrong!
> 
> 
> Citation!  Talk shows are irrelevant.
> 
> 
> >>There is no physical evidence of Jewish ritual
> >> murder.  
> 
> >Wrong!


I've posted this before, Jamie McCarthy checked it out. Try THE MYTH OF 
RITUAL MURDER to start with.
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Alexander Baron

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In article <476pml$315i@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
           gmcfee@ibm.net "Gord McFee" writes:

 
> I can assure you the documents are genuine, unless you choose to call me a 
> liar.  I have seen many similar documents when I was employed one summer 
> translating German Wehrmacht field dispatches into English.  (A job I would 
> never do again, by the way.)

> Indeed there is, and I will be interested to see your research on this.


If you're referring to the Einsatzgruppen documents, check out Butz. He says a
lot of these were definitely forged. Irving has written a book about this sort
of thing, unfortunately it's only been published in German.

-- 
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article <477fop$924@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
           jmorris@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca "John Morris" writes:


> When Mr. Baron brought this whole matter up way back in may, I believe
> that he claimed he was suing because he had been called an antisemite.

You're wrong; why don't you contact the editor of Searchlight and ask him
to fax you the article?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article <477fvd$924@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
           jmorris@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca "John Morris" writes:
 
> Yeah, yeah.
> 
> You may have other people's money in your pockets in exchange for
> selling your reputation, but you won't have any of mine.

Then have your ignorance instead, John.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article <476pmp$315i@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
           gmcfee@ibm.net "Gord McFee" writes:


> Why is Ms. Hart not credible for having said this?  Would you claim it is 
> physically impossible for an SS man to dash out a young child's head?  There 
> are testimonies that exactly that kind of thing happened.  The fact that she 
> might have seen certain things that were not put in her book means nothing 
> more than exactly that.

She said this in 1993. Obviously she had just made it up. Like I said, the
lies grow with every retelling.



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Alexander Baron

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In article <476pnc$315i@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
           gmcfee@ibm.net "Gord McFee" writes:
 
> So now we know why you hate Irving so much.  I am starting to understand you, 
> Al.  The only thing I'm not sure about is why you have this love affair with 
> Al Capone.

The question you should ask, Mr McFee, is why has the Jewish Chronicle smeared
me from pillar to post for exposing Britain's (supposedly) most notorious and
dangerous anti-Semite? Why has it covered up for him? Why did a Jewish-owned
magazine denounce my expose of Irving as libellous? Why is "anti-Semite" Irving
given access to Jewish archives when I - who was working in collaboration with
an Orthodox rabbi - was thrown out of the Wiener Library?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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In article <478es9$bep@shiva.usa.net> hkatz@earth.usa.net "Harry Katz" writes:

> In article <815176708snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>,
> Alexander Baron (A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk) whines:
> 
>         It's when I come across people like you I can understand why
>         anti-Semites believe all the things they do about Jews.
> 
> It's when I come across sentiments like this that I can label Mr. Baron an
> anti-Semite!  Tell me why it is "understandable" to tar me and my family
> because someone who happens to be Jewish has been needling Mr. Baron.

A while ago I was going home and sat in a railway carriage at Victoria Station.
The only other occupant was a young black guy. A young woman opened the door, saw
us sitting there together, then slammed the door and walked off to another 
carriage. I looked at my companion and we laughed. If we had both been black
this might have been put down to "racism". The truth is very different. A short
while before this incident a young woman had been murdered on this very line.
The news reports speculated that she had been murdered as the train passed 
through the tunnel which is a few hundred yards from my flat.

I don't hate this young woman for being suspicious of myself and my unidentified
companion. But I understand it. I don't hate or despise any woman who sees
me walking behind her in the dark, not since I was attacked myself. I understand
it. Many women would call me a male chauvinist pig because I happen to think 
women are different. I don't think Jews are different, even though most of the
people in this newsgroup seem to think they are, and that no one must ever say
anything that even one of them doesn't like.

I don't hate women who distrust men, because I know that all rapists are men
even though all men are not rapists. I've never raped a woman, but I understand 
and accept that to a strange woman - or maybe even to one who knows me - 
I am a potential rapist. I understand and accept the fact that to most parents
I am a potential child molester, and if I were to stand and admire a young girl
in the street, perhaps as the daughter I have never had, many mothers would not
understand. 
 
By the same token, I understand people who have been hounded, slandered,
smeared and denounced to high heaven by Jews who think that being Jewish puts
them above all criticism. I understand people tarring all Jews with the same
brush when so many Jews tar them with the same brush as Hitler or Streicher,
the way they denounce me for refusing to believe second or third hand gossip
about a young baby surviving a gas chamber only to be thrown into an oven by
a demonic SS man. I understand the Zundels of this world, who have been hounded
by feisty Jews for ten years and dragged into court twice. I understand the
likes of Lady Birdwood who has been dragged into court twice by Jewish schemers
simply because she seeks - in her naive way - to save Christian civiliisation 
from the Jewish conspiracy and the Jews from their own folly. I understand 
it because I myself have been smeared from pillar to post, when a pamphlet I 
wrote in defence of schechita is smeared as anti-Semitic, when I am accused of
making common cause with the likes of Eustace Mullins for exposing his 
hatemongering, when I have my home raided and my computer confiscated for 
six months at the behest of lying, scheming Zionist Jews who then incite
violence against me in the Jewish Chronicle while covering up for real
anti-Semites. I understand all these things.


What makes you think anti-Semitism - real or imagined - is such a unique sin,
Harry? What makes - not you so much - but the likes of Dan Keren, think they 
are special, above all criticism? It wasn't me who pogrommed your ancestors?
It wasn't me who burnt some unfortunate Rabbi at the stake for ritual murder
500 years ago. Why do you think no one should ever think ill of you, or say
anything disparaging about either you or your race? Why the great taboo?
I'd really like to know, Harry.


 

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Al Baron's "documentation" of Ritual Murder?
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In article <476l51$ji@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca "Ken McVay OBC" writes:

> In article <815127617snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
> 
> >In article <473fbn$4g3@larry.cc.emory.edu>
> >           libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu "william c anderson" writes:
> 
> >> No Jew, to my knowledge, has ever confessed to "ritual murder" except
> >> under torture. 
> 
> >Wrong!
> 
> _Do_ enlighten us, Mr. Baron! Where is this confession?
> (Having just completed Wm. Nicholl's work on "Christian
> Antisemitism" which deals with this subject, I can hardly
> wait.)
> 
> While you're at it, Mr. Baron, you might discuss what Vatican
> II had to say about the subject, and how that statement
> evolved into its final form.

I believe I had some correspondence with Jamie about this awhile ago. There
were quite a few confessions, Rabbi Jossel confessed for one. Bear in mind
that I do not believe Jews ever practiced ritual murder, what I am saying is
that there is confession and other evidence that they did. The same way there
is confession and other evidence of gas chambers.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: 22nd October, 1995
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 17:28:47 GMT
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In article 
           joelr@winternet.com "Joel Rosenberg" writes:

> >Yes, he pimps off his Jewish girlfriend.
> 
> And Lyin' Al claims he's not an anti-Semite, and expects people to believe him.

Baron says he has a Jewish girlfriend; therefore Baron is an anti-Semite. 
Typical exterminationist logic.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Harry Mazal - Living Proof Of The Need For Revisionism
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In article 
           joelr@winternet.com "Joel Rosenberg" writes:

> >> You know, I think you really believe this.  Amazing.  
> 
> >You want me to E-mail you the proof?
> 
> Absolutely, with the understanding that nothing you send me is in any way in 
> confidence.  
> 

I've lost track now; send me an E-mail telling me exactly what it is you want and
I'll reply in E-mail.
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Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Gold fillings
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In article 
           mvanalst@rbi.com "Mark Van Alstine" writes:

> The translation of a report from the Staatsarchiv Nurnberg.
> 
> This translation was taken from "Concentration Camp Dachau 1933-1945" 
> (ISBN 3-87490-528-4), p. 137; (Plate 283 with translation.) 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> SS-Wirtschaftsverwaltungshauptamt                        Berlin,
>                                                  October 8. 1942
> Re: Gold fillings                                        SECRET!
> 
> To the Reichsfuhrer SS
> Berlin
> 
> Reichsfuhrer!
> 
> In accordance with your order the gold from the teeth of the dead
> prisoners is to be delivered to the health department where it will be
> used for the dental treatment of our men. 

Don't forget that according to the Soviets up to 12kg a day of this were
extracted in Auschwitz!

Thanks for this posting, by the way, it will be very useful in my researches.


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: Baron Confuses Treblinka and Auschwitz (Re: Baron's Ignorance
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In article  dkeren@world.std.com "Daniel Keren" writes:

> Alexander Baron  writes:
> 
> # You're forgetting something Dan; they were not gas chambers 
> # in Treblinka but steam chambers. 
> 
> Note how Baron desperately tries to evade the issue. Amazing.
> 
> Let's take a little look at the history of this thread.
> 
> Baron said (correctly) that there were some testimonies from Poles
> that the Treblinka gas chambers used steam to kill the victims. I
> responded that this is not true

Well, the Nuremberg documents mention steam chambers, Dan. 
> 
> Note that Baron cannot admit he made this stupid mistake - he just
> can't admit it. 

I didn't confuse anything. You do get hysterical at times.

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Alexander Baron

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Capone vindicated - 2 of 4
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Al Capone, Gangster: Innuendo, Rumour And Unsupported
Assertions. And Outright Fraud


Following the retirement of Johnny Torrio, Capone liquidated  the 
O'Banion  mob  - who were allegedly responsible  for  the  murder 
attempt. According to Ness. (29) But whatever Ness may say  about 
Capone's  role  in the liquidation of the O'Banion  gang,  it  is 
$common  knowledge$ that Capone ordered the St.  Valentine's  Day 
Massacre  of the rival Bugs Moran gang. For example, the  presti-
gious $Encyclopedia Americana$ reports that seven members of  the 
Moran gang were gunned down on the express orders of Capone. (30) 
To  this  day, ask almost any American - and a  great  many  non-
Americans - who was Al Capone? - and they will reply that he  was 
a  gangster. Then ask them what criminal offences Al  Capone  was 
ever convicted of, and see what they say. 
  One criminal offence Al Capone was certainly never convicted of 
was  murder. Capone died in 1947, and Ness published his  memoirs 
ten  years later. It is certain that while Scarface Al was  still 
warm in his grave, all manner of innuendo was being thrown around 
about  his  responsibility for this murder or that,  indeed  such 
allegations were made frequently when he was alive, and  probably 
on more than one occasion to his face. In his book, Ness  estima-
ted  that Capone had been responsible directly or indirectly  for 
the  murders  of up to three hundred men by 1929, (31)  a  figure 
that  is too absurd to comment on. Capone himself  once  remarked 
that he had been accused of every death except the casualty  list 
in the World War. (32)
  What are the facts? One fact, as stated, is that Al Capone  was 
never convicted of murder, indeed, the only $crime$ in any  mean-
ingful  sense that he was ever convicted of was carrying a  fire-
arm,  and the circumstances under which this conviction  was  ob-
tained stink to High Heaven.
  In May 1929, Capone was picked up for carrying a pistol. As the 
right  to  bear arms is written into the  American  Constitution, 
this  was obviously only a technical offence. Yet within  sixteen 
hours  of his arrest, Capone had been tried, convicted  and  sen-
tenced to a year in gaol. (33) And this for a first offence. (34) 
In  his  fantasy  prone autobiography, Ness  comments  that  when 
Capone, "America's most feared gangster" was gaoled, his  organi-
sation wasn't broken up but was run by his brother. (35)
  When  a $feared gangster$ or someone equally obnoxious is  sent 
to  gaol the thing that usually happens is that people crawl  out 
of the woodwork to denounce him. True, Capone was only sent  down 
for a year, but this would have been long enough for the authori-
ties  to  pressurise enough members of his (supposed)  empire  to 
turn  on  him, and for the police and the Feds to  gather  enough 
incriminating  testimony from his alleged victims to keep him  in 
gaol  for a great deal longer. What happened though? Scarface  Al 
served  his time then came out and took up right where he'd  left 
off, that's what happened.
  Although  he was sentenced to a year in gaol, Ness admits  that 
Capone  - America's most feared gangster, remember - was  out  in 
ten  months with remission for $good behaviour$. (36) The  simple 
fact  is that this $feared gangster$ was a perfectly  respectable 
and indeed extremely industrious entrepreneur who had ended up on 
the wrong side of the law for a purely technical offence, he  had 
been caught carrying a firearm, which, again, the US Constitution 
is  supposed to have guaranteed him the right to do. It  is  also 
clear that few of his contemporaries could have a more bona  fide 
reason for carrying a firearm than Al Capone. 
  It  is  a well-known truism that mud sticks, and  that  however 
baseless the allegations made against someone and however  force-
fully  he  may be exonerated, there will always be  somebody  who 
reasons no smoke without fire. By the time of his arrest,  Capone 
had been built up into one of the most evil men alive by a combi-
nation  of  state-sponsored  disinformation  and   sensationalist 
gutter  press  drivel. There must have been quite  a  few  hoods, 
self-styled  avengers  or simply people out to make  a  name  for 
themselves who would have thought nothing of gunning him down  in 
cold  blood,  or perhaps attacking him in a  less  repugnant  but 
equally  disturbing  manner. Surely such a man  in  such  circum-
stances is entitled to carry a handgun for his own protection?
  As  well  as  the bust, the sentence meted out  to  Capone  was 
clearly politically motivated. The fact that the authorities were 
able to manhandle him in so brutal a manner and deal with him  in 
such a summary fashion is also evidence of, if not outright proof 
that,  he  was  in reality no manner of gangster  but  an  honest 
businessman  who,  after being harassed by  the  authorities  for 
years,  and  quite likely in fear of his life on account  of  his 
being  demonised,  was simply caught out doing  what  any  right-
minded  person  would have done under the circumstances.  It  has 
become $de rigueur$ to portray Capone as a bloated, Machiavellian 
schemer  surrounded  by  smart lawyers,  craftily  outfoxing  the 
dedicated  efforts  of the squad of special agents to  track  him 
down  and bring him to justice. Police officers, city  officials, 
even judges, are said variously to have been on his payroll.  Yet 
the  bottom  line is that when the chips were down,  he  couldn't 
even  get  bail on a minor firearm rap. The  poor  man  obviously 
never knew what hit him. Incidentally, the usual tariff for  such 
an  $offence$  was three months, (37) yet he was sentenced  to  a 
year. Surely this is further proof that Capone was anything but a 
criminal mastermind?
  However,  even after the state's repressive apparatus had  suc-
ceeded in nailing him for this trivial offence, it wasn't  satis-
fied. According to Ness, on Capone's release, a police chief  was 
said  to have promised to clap him straight back in gaol as  soon 
as he arrived home. Twenty-five men staked out his home for  four 
days  until it was decided that he wasn't going to show up.  (38) 
This  is outrageous; in the first place, $if$ Capone had  been  a 
wanted  man  he wouldn't even have been released from  gaol,  the 
authorities would have found some further charge to bring against 
him or used some other device to make sure he wasn't allowed back 
on the street. The simple fact is that Scarface Al, having served 
a  vicious sentence for a piddling misdemeanour, was targeted  by 
an over officious police officer with a grudge against the son of 
a poor Italian immigrant who had made good while he was stuck  in 
a  brown-nosing  job while masquerading as a guardian  of  public 
morality.
  Furthermore,  by  taking no less than twenty-five men  off  the 
streets (where they could have been catching real criminals),  in 
order  to  stake out the home of a man who had not even  able  to 
commit a crime for the best part of a year - even if he'd  wanted 
to  - by doing this, this police chief wasted valuable  resources 
to harass an already harassed and essentially innocuous business-
man. In short, he allowed his irrational hatred of the successful 
-  and harmless - Al Capone to over-ride his duty to protect  the 
public.
  As  well  as claiming that he had ordered the murders  of  some 
three hundred men, Ness spins his readers a fantasy about  Capone 
moving into legitimate businesses (39) where he began bombing his 
rivals.  The public didn't like it, he says. (40) Doubtless  such 
bombings  did  occur, and by the same token the  public  wouldn't 
have  liked them (the public has never been overly fond  of  bom-
bings),  but again this is innuendo, and as always it is easy  to 
libel  the dead, because they cannot answer back. Al  Capone  was 
never proved guilty of bombing anymore than he was proved  guilty 
of murder. 
  Probably  the height of Ness's chutzpah is his suggestion  that 
an  attempt on his life shortly after one of his raids,  was  the 
work of the Capone gang. (41) The fact that Capone was in gaol at 
the  time  (on the aforementioned firearms  misdemeanour)  didn't 
prevent poor Al from being blamed even for this. This  supposedly 
so Machiavellian $gangster$ couldn't prevent the state conspiracy 
from throwing him into gaol on a bum rap, yet at the same time he 
is supposed to have ordered the execution of a Justice Department 
official. (42)
  Let  us  state this again loud and clear: Al Capone  was  never 
convicted of murder, nor was he ever convicted of the bombing  of 
any  individual or property. Ness's assertions are exactly  that, 
assertions,  and totally baseless ones at that, because if  there 
had  been the slightest evidence against him he would  have  been 
charged, and more than likely, convicted. It beggars belief  that 
the  Chicago police - however corrupt they may have been -  would 
have allowed Capone or anyone to get away with eight murders (the 
St.  Valentine's  Day Massacre), and it is  simply  inconceivable 
that  a  man  who didn't have enough know-how to  escape  a  gaol 
sentence for a firearms misdemeanour would have had the savvy  to 
order and escape retribution for such an heinous crime.
  Furthermore,  although  there  was public outrage  at  the  St. 
Valentine's  Day Massacre, and other gangland killings,  none  of 
this  outrage was directed at Capone. $If$ the public had  really 
believed  any of the mud that was flung at him, they  would  have 
shown their displeasure by boycotting him and buying their liquor 
from  someone else. It is most likely that Ness, the  police  and 
the  other authorities continued to lay the blame on  Capone  for 
half  the  murders and other crimes in Chicago because he  was  a 
convenient scapegoat. He was - against his will - a high  profile 
public figure; he was also a big man with a scar on his face  who 
looked the part of the gangster or hood; (43) he was not part  of 
the  establishment, he had humble origins. And he was of  Italian 
extraction.  All they had to do was blame it all on that  devious 
schemer and gangster Capone, mutter under their breath about  how 
they couldn't touch him because he was protected or had City Hall 
in  his pocket, or some such twaddle, and they wouldn't  need  to 
justify  their  failure  to catch the real  perpetrators  of  the 
dastardly deeds. And their own incompetence.
  Again,  rather  than being either a murderer or  a  bomber,  Al 
Capone  was a successful businessman who was singled out by  both 
the  police  and the Federal Government because his  face  didn't 
fit.  In short, he was simply yet another victim  of  well-orche-
strated, vindictive and totally arbitrary state harassment.


He Was Cleared, Therefore He Did It


The  world is full of conspiracies, but conspiracy theorists  are 
frequently met with derision, often with good reason. Some people 
who postulate conspiracy theories interpret all evidence  against 
their  particular  theory as evidence $for$ it.  There  are  some 
people  -  mostly Christian Fundamentalists -  who  believe  that 
Satanists  snatch thousands of people off the streets of  America 
every  year in order to sacrifice them to the Devil. When  police 
departments  and  the  FBI have  investigated  alleged  organised 
Satanic  activity and abuse, they have found  precisely  nothing. 
(44)  So  what happens? They go into the plot as well.  Thus  the 
fact that no bodies are found proves only that the wicked  Satan-
ists  are  so clever at covering up their trail.  The  fact  that 
neither  the police nor the Feds come up with any evidence  means 
that both the police departments and the FBI have been  infiltra-
ted and taken over by the Satanists' network. And when Al  Capone 
was cleared of a crime, why, the obvious explanation, indeed  the 
only  explanation, is that he corrupted the authorities with  his 
terrible power of the purse.
  One  Capone biographer mentions a case in 1922 when Capone  was 
charged with assault with an automobile, driving while  intoxica-
ted and carrying a concealed weapon. The case never came to trial 
because,  we  are told "The charges  were  mysteriously  dropped, 
expunged  from  the  record." (45) Another  author  has  likewise 
concluded that because Capone had no criminal record he must have 
bribed  some official so that "irritating documentation could  be 
consigned to oblivion." (46)
  Notwithstanding  the fact that most of the time many  of  these 
very same officials were doing their best to make the poor  man's 
life  a  misery, this is, once again, pure innuendo.  The  simple 
fact  is  that  many people who are charged with  all  manner  of 
criminal offences never see the inside of a courtroom because the 
charges are dropped. As to why the charges are dropped, there can 
be  all  manner  of reasons. One is that  frequently  the  police 
overstep  the  mark or even fit people up. If this were  not  the 
case  then  anyone who was ever charged with a  criminal  offence 
would  be convicted. This is only intelligent speculation, but  I 
would  say  that it is likely in the above case that  Capone  was 
arrested  on a totally bum rap and that he threatened to sue  the 
police, or something of that nature. And they backed down.
  Another, quite likely explanation, is that the police  realised 
they  had  gone too far without any such  prompting,  because  in 
1922, Capone was $one of their own$, so to speak. (47)  Whatever, 
it  should never be forgotten that although by this time,  Capone 
had  long since embarked on his life of $crime$, he was still  at 
this time a very minor player. If he couldn't beat a bum  firearm 
rap  when he was kingpin, it is most unlikely that he  could  use 
his  supposedly  Machiavellian powers to extricate  himself  from 
more serious charges seven years earlier. Any suggestions to  the 
contrary  are simply loaded speculation, innuendo and  the  usual 
cheap shots.


Al Capone The Entrepreneur Versus Eliot Ness The Destroyer -  How 
It Really Was


When  one  reads communist and similar  publications  today,  the 
thing  which impresses the reader more than anything else is  the 
sheer  hatred,  venom  and nastiness that  communists  and  their 
fellow  travellers  exhibit  against anyone who  has  made  good. 
Businessmen  who have built great industrial,  retail,  wholesale 
and other empires, through their own effort, industriousness, and 
often self-sacrifice are portrayed as parasites who prey off  the 
masses  in  a relentless quest for profit. A  particularly  nasty 
example of this perverted reasoning is the anarchist  publication 
$Class  War$, which, in its February/March 1995  issue  published 
the  following attack on Richard Branson, who had  committed  the 
cardinal sin of transporting a cargo on one of his Virgin Airways 
planes  "free of charge". This is hardly the act of  a  parasitic 
capitalist,  but instead of being applauded, Mr Branson was  lam-
basted  by what was a thinly veiled murder threat: "Three  cheers 
for Mr Branson? More like three swift blows from a baseball  bat. 
He can wear as much body armour as he likes, but this prat's days 
are truly numbered." (48)
  While it is unquestionably true that some capitalists are money 
graspers, this is a personality defect that can be found through-
out  all strata of society. And although he didn't come from  the 
same  humble origins as Al Capone, Richard Branson is still  very 
much a self-made man. (49)
  This  anti-capitalistic  mentality was very much alive  in  the 
1920s  in the wake of the Bolshevik Revolution. There  has  never 
been  any  suggestion that Eliot Ness was a communist  or  fellow 
traveller, but the same hatred of financial success and desire to 
tear  down  successful business enterprises manifests  itself  in 
many people who are employed, ostensibly, as public servants, yet 
who  spend the better parts of their careers harassing  the  more 
productive and industrious members of the community. 
  Ness  claimed in his autobiography that at one time the  Capone 
Syndicate  was  estimated to have had an income  of  nearly  $120 
million. (50) A year, presumably. Although this figure is  almost 
certainly  wildly  exaggerated, his claim that $the mob$  had  20 
breweries churning out 100 barrels of beer a day (51) is probably 
not far wide of the mark.
  No  credit is given by Ness - or by any servant of that  Draco-
nian  instrument of statist repression known as the Federal  Gov-
ernment - for the positive achievements of the Capone  syndicate. 
Here  was  a  man who came from poor immigrant  stock,  from  the 
humblest  of  origins, and who, together with  many  people  from 
similar backgrounds, built a thriving, prosperous business.  (52) 
A  man whose organisation employed people in no less than  twenty 
locations in and around Chicago. If Capone hadn't employed  these 
men  (and  women?) what would they have been doing?  Most  likely 
lounging  around  on street corners or living off the dole  -  or 
whatever  they had in 1920s America. A good many of these  people 
were grateful to this so-called gangster for giving them a  live-
lihood, and enabling them to feed their families. And Mr Capone's 
customers  were  obviously satisfied; let us repeat, no  one  was 
ever forced to attend speakeasies, no one was ever forced to  buy 
and drink Capone's beer. 
  Capone  himself  saw through the hypocrisy and  humbug  of  the 
corrupt  system  which portrayed him and his  kind  as  parasites 
rather  than the service providers they were. He  enunciated  his 
views  with  crystal clear lucidity worthy of a latter  day  John 
Stuart  Mill:  "They call Al Capone a bootlegger",  he  told  one 
author,  "Yes,  it's bootleg while it's on the trucks,  but  when 
your  host at the club, in the locker room, or on the Gold  Coast 
hands  it  to you on a silver tray, it's hospitality.  What's  Al 
Capone  done, then? He's supplied a legitimate demand. Some  call 
it bootlegging. Some call it racketeering. I call it a business." 
(53)  He put it even more succinctly on another occasion when  he 
told  a  woman "They talk about me not being on  the  legitimate. 
Why,  lady, nobody's on the legit., when it comes down to  cases; 
you know that." (54)
  As well as his commitment to the free enterprise system, Capone 
exhibited  a trait which he has seldom been given credit  for,  a 
broader commitment to American ideals and a fierce, if concealed, 
patriotism.  "My rackets are run on strictly American  lines  and 
they're  going to stay that way", he told one author.  (55)  And, 
"Don't get the idea that I'm one of these goddam radicals.  Don't 
get the idea that I'm knocking the American system." (56)
  This was Al Capone, entrepreneur, public servant. We know  what 
he  did; in his own words he provided a service, he was  a  busi-
nessman whose customers in turn provided hospitality. So what was 
Eliot Ness? And what did he do?
  In  his book, Ness boasts that on one raid alone  a  staggering 
$75,000  worth  of plant was seized. (57) On another  raid,  men-
tioned  on  page 94 of his book, Ness boasts that  six  men  were 
arrested  and  that  beer and equipment valued  at  $100,000  was 
destroyed. On page 162 of this 190 page catalogue of destruction, 
the  reader is told that it was difficult to find  breweries  be-
cause  he  and  his gang had closed more than  30  large  plants, 
seized  45  trucks  and destroyed millions of  dollars  worth  of 
equipment.  There  you  have it in his own words.  Ness,  at  the 
behest  of the United States Government, set out to  destroy  the 
livelihoods of ordinary people, and millions of dollars' worth of 
expensive capital equipment.  
  Earlier  I said that Al Capone's so-called rackets gave  people 
(dozens  or perhaps even hundreds of them) a  livelihood,  taking 
them  off the street. In fact, Capone's service to  society  goes 
far beyond that, because many of the people he employed were  the 
type  who then - and today - can find employment $only$  in  this 
sort of activity. It is a truism that once a dog has a bad  name, 
nobody  wants to go near it. Many of the people who  found  their 
way onto Scarface Al's payroll were ex-cons and assorted lowlife, 
[sic]  the sort of people no regular employer would want to  take 
on.  If  these gangsters, petty crooks and no-goods  hadn't  been 
engaged  in the production and distribution of bootleg booze,  it 
is  more than likely that the Devil would have  found  villainous 
work  for  their idle hands, and that they would  have  taken  to 
mugging old ladies, burglary, armed robbery, and worse. It is not 
too much of an exaggeration to say that, rather than contributing 
to the proliferation of crime in 1920s Chicago, Al Capone actual-
ly helped keep the crime rate down.


Capone The Peacemaker: Ness Lets The Cat Out Of The Bag


Although  in  his autobiography, Ness does his  best  to  portray 
Capone  as some sort of machine gun wielding vampire whose  hands 
were  dripping  with blood, we have established already  in  this 
short  study that Scarface Al was never convicted of  murder  and 
that  all  the allegations against him of racketeering  were  and 
remain nothing more than hearsay. There are people who will claim 
that  there  were so many rumours about Capone's  involvement  in 
Organised  Crime, including organised murder, that some  of  them 
must be true, but we must point out again that this simply is not 
the  case.  Let me draw an analogy with Jack the  Ripper.  Whilst 
there is no doubt at all that a number of women were murdered  in 
London's  Whitechapel  in the late 1880s, and little  doubt  that 
some  of  them were murdered by the same person,  who  was  never 
brought to justice, there are more theories about Jack the Ripper 
than most people have had hot dinners. 
  In  reality, most of these $theories$ are simply wild  specula-
tion,  likewise all or most of them are mutually  exclusive,  for 
the Ripper can hardly have been a policeman, a woman, a  gorilla, 
a  member  of the Royal family, the Queen's physician and  a  mad 
Russian doctor simultaneously. (58) By the same token, although a 
number  of  apparently  gang-related murders  were  committed  in 
Chicago  during the Capone era, there is no good  reason  anymore 
than  there  is any good evidence that all or any  of  them  were 
ordered  by  Al Capone. The simple fact is that Al Capone  was  a 
successful businessman, and as we have pointed out already,  such 
success, especially by a man of no great education who had  risen 
from  relative poverty, generates envy, contempt, bitterness  and 
hatred  for its own sake. Probably 99% of the  unpleasant  things 
that have been written about Capone over the years had absolutely 
no  basis  in fact. And, it should never be  forgotten,  most  of 
these  unpleasant things were written by men like Eliot Ness,  or 
inspired by him and his ilk.
  Ness himself has done an excellent hatchet job on Capone, until 
one does some basic textual analysis and compares his wild asser-
tions  with the documented facts, but even as he is slagging  off 
this so-called gangster, he inadvertently lets the cat out of the 
bag, for, rather than being any sort of mass murderer, Al  Capone 
is revealed as a peace-loving man who actually $saved$ lives.  As 
always,  the proof of the pudding is in the eating: here is  what 
Ness says when he lets his guard down. 
  Capone  ruled Chicago "with an iron fist in a glove of  steel", 
(59)  but,  "Rarely did hate actuate him; when it  did,  however, 
those  who  had incurred his wrath were marked for  death."  (60) 
Rarely? This is a man who earlier, according to Ness, had ordered 
or  been responsible for some three hundred murders by  1929.  As 
Capone became a junior partner in so-called organised crime  only 
in  1920, (when Johnny Torrio succeeded 'Diamond Jim'  Colosimo), 
that  works out to three hundred murders in nine years, which  is 
about  thirty-three  a  year, ie more than one  a  fortnight.  In 
practice though, Capone wouldn't have been in a position to order 
murders until he became kingpin five years later, so allowing for 
him  having  killed a few people before - and where is  the  evi-
dence?  - we are looking at a man who, by Ness's earlier  reckon-
ing, must have been having people dispatched every few days. 
  Okay, what have we got so far? A man who was rarely angry,  yet 
ordered  people killed as frequently as most people change  their 
underwear.  Next, Ness tells his readers that when Capone was  in 
gaol  on  the bum firearm rap, the murder rate rose:  "There  had 
been  frequent gang murders in the few months preceding  Scarface 
Al's  return.  A serious breach was threatening  to  disrupt  the 
peace  treaty  Capone had negotiated at Atlantic City."  (61)  In 
other words, rather than ordering gang murders, Capone had  waged 
a  tireless battle against them and had even succeeded in  enfor-
cing a peace treaty. The reason he did this is not far to seek. 
  His  main  aim in life was to keep things running  smoothly  so 
that  his customers had a constant supply of liquor and  so  that 
the  profits  kept running in to his organisation.  Even  a  city 
which  was  as corrupt as Chicago allegedly was  would  not  have 
tolerated gang murders on such a scale, something would have been 
done.  And as Capone had been a big wheel from 1925, there is  no 
doubt that his activities would have been monitored closely since 
then.  As indeed they were. Yet in the end the only  things  they 
ever  got  him for were a firearm misdemeanour - for  which  they 
threw the book at him - and income tax evasion. As Capone himself 
said, "They finally got me for spitting on the sidewalk." (62)



Capone The Kind And Generous Man


Ness  and his ilk would have us believe that Al Capone  got  away 
with  his  crimes [sic] for so long not only because  of  endemic 
corruption but because he was feared by the people of Chicago. It 
may be that Capone was feared, certainly by the competition,  but 
it  is  far more likely that he was loved, for again,  by  Ness's 
admission,  he was generous to a tee. Ness says of  Capone  that, 
although  he was ruthless, he had "the quality of a  great  busi-
nessman" who exhibited "sound judgment, diplomatic shrewdness and 
the diamond-hard nerves of a gambler, all balanced by cold common 
sense."  (63) Capone was certainly an accomplished diplomat,  and 
like all diplomats he realised that persuasion was always prefer-
able to compulsion, although he was realistic enough to see  that 
in  a hard world, hard decisions have to be made, and that  while 
persuasion pays dividends, some people respect only force. He put 
this philosophy in a nutshell with "You can get much further with 
a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." (64)
  Though  Capone lived in a hard world, Ness, who graduated  from 
the  University  of Chicago, either didn't understand  or  didn't 
want  to  understand  the harsh realities  faced  by  street-wise 
businessmen  who  graduated from the school of hard  knocks.  He, 
after  all,  was  working for the  Federal  Government.  Whatever 
results he turned in, even if he didn't make a single arrest,  he 
was  still paid because his salary was underwritten by the  taxes 
of  the  people. But businessmen have to turn a profit  or  their 
enterprises go down the tubes. Of course Capone was ruthless, but 
who benefits from such ruthlessness and the resultant  cut-throat 
competition? The customer, of course! 
  And  Capone was certainly loved, or if he wasn't, he  was  most 
highly respected, for as Ness himself says "Capone never  carried 
less than $50,000 in cash, scattering $25 tips to hat check girls 
and  $100  gratuities  to waiters." (65) The  reader  should  ask 
himself if these are the acts of a hoodlum, of the kind of  scum-
bag  Ness  would have us believe Capone was. The simple  fact  is 
that  Capone,  as  stated, came from humble  origins,  and  never 
forgot it. What sort of man gives a waiter a hundred dollar  tip? 
(66)  How about a kind one? Capone was not just from  poor  immi-
grant stock, he was of Italian origin. It is likely that many  of 
his  family  and friends worked in and around  the  catering  and 
restaurant  trades,  a traditional stronghold  of  Italian  immi-
grants. Every time he saw a waiter he probably thought "There but 
for the grace of God go I". (67)
  Capone's legendary generosity even went so far as to offer Ness 
a  retainer, an offer the latter would have us believe  he  found 
insulting in the extreme. When a Capone foot soldier turned up at 
Ness's office with $2,000 in cash and promised him the same every 
week  "if you'll take it easy", Ness reacted angrily,  and,  like 
the  inveterate publicity seeker he was, went out of his  way  to 
prove  his incorruptibility. (68) At least, that's what he  tells 
us.  No  one  was arrested for this attempt to  bribe  a  Federal 
officer,  so it is quite possible or even likely that  Ness  made 
the  incident  up as part of his general campaign of  smears  and 
disinformation. Assuming it was true though, what was so terrible 
about an offer of two thousand dollars a week to "take it easy" ? 
  If  Ness had taken this money, he would have benefited,  Capone 
would have benefited, and, ultimately, the City of Chicago  would 
have saved money. Think again of all the people needlessly thrown 
out  of  work by the campaign of wanton  destruction  of  private 
enterprise engaged in by Ness and his cronies. Think again too of 
the  sort of people Capone was employing. How many of them,  laid 
off when their breweries were shut down and their jobs were axed, 
moved  effortlessly from the $underworld$ of Al Capone's  victim-
less  crimes  of selling liquor to willing buyers into  the  real 
underworld?  How  many old ladies were  mugged,  people  burgled, 
banks robbed, because these otherwise unemployable wretches  were 
denied the opportunity to earn an honest dollar by the caprice of 
a  bigoted  government and the simulated outrage of  one  of  its 
strong arm men?
  Ness  even had the nerve to try to kid his readers that it  was 
this  rejection  of Capone's largesse that earned  his  team  the 
label  the Untouchables. This is nonsense, as he knew full  well, 
for  a  man of his university education could  hardly  have  been 
unaware  of the natural meaning of this term. In  India,  certain 
classes of persons are referred to as Untouchables. The $Harijan$ 
include  those  in  certain occupations, such  as  those  killing 
cattle or disposing of dead cattle, and other "polluting  activi-
ties".  (69) The word Untouchable applied to Ness & co  was  then 
not a term of reverence but an insult, an epithet from the Indian 
sub-continent.  Ness and his team of $Untouchables$ were seen  by 
the  Chicago public not as purifiers of a corrupt system, but  as 
polluters, unwanted interlopers who had been ordered by a  menda-
cious, autocratic Federal Government to destroy the livelihood of 
one of the community's most respected figures, and, more  import-
antly from their point of view, to prevent them from enjoying the 
comforts of $the good creature of God$, just because some  little 
fart of a politician with the backing of Twentieth Century  Puri-
tans and killjoys had forced an act through Congress denying  the 
people their inalienable right to drink alcohol.


Persecuted,  Harassed, Slandered, Yet Even In Prison, Capone  Put 
Others First


Socialists are forever telling us that we should work for others, 
this  is  something called altruism. It's okay to  be  altruistic 
with other people's money, in particular the taxpayers', but when 
it comes to digging into their own pockets, that's when they  are 
found out. Capone though, always believed he had a duty to socie-
ty,  to put something back. The reader will recall that in  1929, 
Capone was gaoled on a bum firearm rap. The magistrate who  heard 
this  case said he would like to "[rid] the United States of  you 
for ever." (70)
  Surely  this  magistrate would have bit his tongue  if  he  had 
learned what Capone did while serving his sentence. While he  was 
in  prison,  he overheard some doctors discussing the case  of  a 
young  criminal  in the hospital who been shot  in  an  attempted 
hold-up;  they were going to amputate his arm. Capone said  "Save 
the  boy's arm. If it takes money, I'll be glad to pay  for  it." 
(71) This was a young punk Capone didn't know from Adam, yet  for 
him  such an act of extraordinary generosity and  compassion  was 
$de  rigueur$.  Incredibly though, there were those,  beside  the 
obviously envious and totally worthless Eliot Ness, who interpre-
ted  such  acts as further evidence of Capone's  supposedly  evil 
nature.


He Was Kind Therefore He Was Evil


Capone biographer Kenneth Allsop wrote that "His individual  acts 
of  charity,  from a fifty dollar loan to an outright gift  to  a 
destitute  Italian family, were many. He paid the hospital  bills 
of  a woman bystander wounded in a street gun-battle. It  is  not 
altogether  astonishing  that today there  are  many  respectable 
citizens in Chicago who speak glowingly of Capone's  philanthropy 
and  particularly point out that in the early Depression days  it 
was the Capone gang who set up the first soup-kitchens and block-
restaurants  for  the distribution of free food  on  Thanksgiving 
Day."  (72)  On one occasion, Capone sent $1,200 to  a  deserving 
Philadelphia orphanage. (73) Yet while Allsop writes that  Capone 
was  revealed in November 1930 as the mysterious  benefactor  who 
had  set up a huge soup-kitchen, he implies that his  motives  in 
doing  this were purely selfish, ie that he set it up  purely  so 
that the identity of the benefactor could be leaked to the media, 
in order to show himself in a favourable light. (74)


Other Persecutions And Anti-Capone Hysteria


As  we have demonstrated, Capone was hounded not simply by  Eliot 
Ness  but at times by what seemed like the entire  establishment. 
He was actually arrested many times, including for vagrancy! (75) 
On top of all that, the wildest rumours and nonsense were  spread 
about  him. It was said that Capone was taking a cut of the  tak-
ings  of slot machines in Copenhagen because they had  been  man-
ufactured in Chicago. (76) A book on Capone was banned by librar-
ies in London; (77) a man who wrote a book called $Carrying a Gun 
for Al Capone$ admitted later not only that he had never done any 
such thing but that he had never even been to Chicago! (78)  Some 
of this nonsense may have been inspired by media  sensationalism, 
or,  as most likely, in the case of the  fictitious  gun-carrying 
hood,  a  Walter Mitty personality, but the  astute  reader  will 
detect  here  the  hidden hand of Capone's  declared  enemies  in 
officialdom, who, as always, were backed up by the full  coercive 
power of the state. (79)

-- 
Alexander Baron

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Capone Inspired Loyalty From Beyond The Grave


Further  evidence  of  the true nature of  Scarface  Al  surfaced 
thirty-three  years after his death. In August 1980, the  British 
weekly  $Titbits$ published the story of a woman who  claimed  to 
have been his lover, Amelia D'Argenio. (80) She was a young widow 
when she met Capone and he asked her out, and they quickly became 
lovers.  (81) Capone gave her an allowance which was the  equiva-
lent  of L150 a week, and said that he would have given her  any-
thing  in his power, and lavished fur coats, jewellery and  money 
on her. Curiously though she said "I never saw Al with a pistol", 
(82) which raises the possibility that Capone may even have  been 
fitted up outright for the firearm misdemeanour. (83)
  Capone's  former lover continued "Of course his 'boys'  carried 
guns - even machine guns - but only to protect their  interests." 
And  why shouldn't they have? Even Capone's  hostile  biographers 
don't  deny  that he was frequently targeted  for  assassination. 
(84)  Surely  this is a clear case of  defending  one's  property 
rights  and  even more importantly, one's life, by the  right  to 
bear  arms, which is enshrined in the US Constitution.  D'Argenio 
even says that "When he ordered a speakeasy to be blown up it was 
always  at night when nobody who was innocent would  be  killed." 
(85) This sounds like hearsay, again we must stress that there is 
no proof that Al Capone ever engaged in such criminal activity as 
bombing  rivals  or, as suggested here, against  people  who  had 
ripped  him off. But even if he did authorise strong arm  tactics 
occasionally  we have been given a bona fide reason for it  here. 
Because of the Draconian (and stupid) Prohibition law, people  in 
Capone's line of work who were ripped off had either to turn  the 
other cheek or exact summary justice. Bootleggers who turned  the 
other cheek wouldn't have stayed in business long. Here though is 
prima facie evidence that although Capone may have been a bit  of 
a  rough  diamond, he lived by his own moral code, and  that  the 
summary  justice he dispensed was neither excessive nor  adminis-
tered with either malice or recklessness.
  Capone was in fact in many ways a regular guy: "Al would  leave 
for the office every morning in his armoured car and come home at 
night in the same car". And his patriotism, which we have already 
alluded to, was evinced by the huge picture of George  Washington 
and  the Stars and Stripes he kept on his office wall. "He  loved 
America." (86)


A Sick Attempt To Impugn Capone's Patriotism


We  should  mention here an attempt to portray Capone  in  a  bad 
light which, although not as sick as portraying this great Ameri-
can  entrepreneur  as a mass murderer and crook,  is  pretty  low 
nevertheless.  In  $The Bootleggers$, Kenneth  Allsop  says  that 
Capone was not only fond of lying - including about his age - but 
that  he  was born in Italy, not America, as he  claimed.  Allsop 
says  that Capone was born January 6, 1895 at Castel  Amara  near 
Rome to his shopkeeper father Gabrielle and mother Theresa.  (87) 
The implication is of course that because Capone was not born  in 
America  he couldn't have been a $good American$. This  is  utter 
nonsense  because  America  was founded by  Europeans,  and  many 
contemporary  Americans  -  former President  Ronald  Reagan  for 
example  -  are intensely proud of their European (in  his  case, 
Irish)  heritage. But that doesn't for one moment mean that  they 
are not good Americans.
  In  any  case, this charge against Capone is  blatantly  false. 
Another  Capone biographer, John Kobler, reports that Capone  was 
indeed  born  in the United States, in Brooklyn, on  January  17, 
1899. (16) And, far from reducing his age, Capone actually  added 
a  year  to his official age. The reason for this  was  that  the 
fully assimilated all-American son of Italian immigrants  married 
an  Irish-American  (Mae  Coughlin), on December  18,  1918.  His 
bride-to-be  was  actually two years older  than  him,  something 
which  appears  to have embarrassed Capone, so  on  the  marriage 
certificate,  she lowered her age by one year, and  he  increased 
his  by  one. (88) [This is the sort of white  lie  anyone  would 
tell.] In any case, Capone's parents arrived in the United States 
in 1893, two years before - according to Allsop - Capone  himself 
was  born.  (89) Let us return now to the lies  and  innuendo  of 
Eliot Ness. 


A Strange Incident


As  most  people  know, Al Capone was finally  convicted  of  and 
gaoled for income tax evasion, but prior to his indictment a most 
curious  incident is reported by Ness. Following the murder of  a 
police  reporter who was said to have been on the take, a gun  in 
Ness's files disappeared. This gun was proved by forensic testing 
to  have  been one of the same batch as the weapon  used  in  the 
reporter's  murder,  and was thought initially to have  been  the 
same gun. Ness's reaction to the disappearance of the gun in  his 
files is strange indeed. He says: "The Capone gang - for it could 
be no other - had started to show its hand. They had entered  our 
offices, probably in the dead of night, and searched for evidence 
that  could  be destroyed." (90) Yeah, sure  Eliot,  but  Occam's 
Razor  gives us a far more plausible explanation. To begin  with, 
if the Capone $gang$ had been responsible, surely they would have 
destroyed  a  great deal more evidence, perhaps they'd  even  had 
bombed or torched the office. 
  Secondly,  the  obvious solution is that someone  with  regular 
access  to  the office - perhaps even Ness himself  -  made  this 
weapon  disappear. I wouldn't like to speculate as to the  reason 
Ness  or  one of his underlings would wish to  make  a  potential 
murder  weapon disappear, but even the dumbest of observers  must 
surely conclude that it is odd Ness should have blamed Capone for 
this  particular piece of legerdemain. Perhaps  the  Untouchables 
weren't quite so untouchable after all?


Trial And Conviction


Although Ness and his team did some impressive work in  gathering 
evidence against Capone (in a purely technical sense), it was the 
Revenue  agents who did the real damage. Capone  and  sixty-eight 
members of his syndicate were eventually indicted by a Grand Jury 
under the $Volstead Act$. This was based on evidence assembled by 
Ness  and  his  agents, but the tax case  took  precedence.  (91) 
Capone himself faced three indictments and a possible 34 years in 
gaol. (92)
  In  1989, Britain's leading Libertarian Chris Tame, (93)  wrote 
that  if a thug were to accost you in the street and demand  your 
wallet, you wouldn't hesitate to call his actions theft. (94) The 
$crime$ Al Capone was charged with was refusing to part with  his 
hard-earned  money,  not  to a street thug, but to  agents  of  a 
repressive  regime  of new, unhappy Puritans who  treated  people 
like  common criminals for doing what people of almost  all  cul-
tures have done since time immemorial, drinking alcohol. 
  It seems incredible that a law-abiding citizen whose only  real 
crime was a technical infringement of a firearms law, who created 
a vast business empire, who gave hundreds of people a livelihood, 
who  serviced  willing imbibers from all walks of  society,  who, 
even  by  his  avowed enemy's admission,  brought  peace  to  the 
streets  of Chicago, and undoubtedly saved lives, that a man  who 
did all this, should be treated like a common criminal and threa-
tened  with over thirty years in gaol because he decided he  knew 
better what to do with his money than the state. (95)
  In  spite of Capone's business acumen, he was naive  about  the 
law.  At  one point he objected "They can't collect  legal  taxes 
from illegal money." (96) Unfortunately for him this wasn't true. 
In  1921 a small time Carolina bootlegger named  Manley  Sullivan 
was  charged  with income tax evasion. He  didn't  challenge  the 
bootlegging  allegation but argued a point of law, that the  gov-
ernment was not allowed to tax illegal income. The case went  all 
the way to the Supreme Court. He lost. (97)
  Capone  was found guilty on counts 1, 5, 9, 13 and 18.  He  was 
also  given  6 months for contempt of court, was sentenced  to  a 
total  of  eleven years in gaol, fined a total  of  $50,000,  and 
ordered  to  pay $30,000 costs. As he left the courtroom  he  was 
served with an order to freeze his assets by a Revenue  official. 
(98)


The End Of Prohibition


Al  Capone  was  gaoled in October 1931 and served  most  of  his 
sentence  in  Alcatraz. In 1933, Prohibition was  ended  because, 
according  to  the $Encyclopedia Americana$, "the  nation's  most 
influential  people, as well as the general public,  acknowledged 
that it had failed. It had increased lawlessness and drinking and 
aggravated alcohol abuse." (99) Capone himself had gone on record 
as stating that "Prohibition has made nothing but trouble". (100) 
Indeed,  this  must have been apparent from almost  the  day  the 
$Volstead  Act$ was passed. In 1929, the U.S. assistant  attorney 
general in charge of liquor law prosecutions, a woman named Mabel 
Walker Willebrandt, resigned and became an attorney for the  wine 
industry.  (101) However, the real reason the great  $social  ex-
periment$  of Prohibition $failed$, had nothing whatsoever to  do 
with concern for increasing lawlessness, aggravated alcohol abuse 
or  anything  of the kind, Prohibition was  scrapped  for  purely 
commercial reasons, as we will see shortly.


Capone And Ness: Their Later Careers


Capone's last day in Alcatraz was January 6, 1939. His biographer 
John Kobler wrote that "For the misdemeanor of failing to file  a 
tax  return, he owed another year, reducible by good behavior  to 
about  ten months." (102) Again that phrase good behaviour  rears 
its head, somehow it is so out of character with the media  image 
of Capone which Ness and his sycophants and their spiritual heirs 
have built in the nearly five decades since Scarface Al's  death. 
On  his release, Capone lived quietly until his premature  death, 
not just a sick man but a broken one. 
  We  have demonstrated here I think that the myth of  Al  Capone 
mass  murderer and super-gangster was just that, a myth.  Another 
myth,  almost  as  big, is the myth that  Capone  was  fabulously 
wealthy.  Ness  claimed  that at one time Capone  was  worth  $50 
million.  (103) The $Encyclopedia Americana$ - which,  having  no 
axe  to grind, one would expect to be more reliable  -  estimated 
his  wealth  at his peak in 1927 at a  staggering  $100  million. 
(104)  Capone's last lawyer painted a different picture. To  wit, 
his client "never owned the sources of his once vast wealth."  He 
shared  with partners and the organisation. He was well  provided 
for but his property was heavily mortgaged and he had to pay  off 
back  taxes. (105) Ness's claim that Capone never carried  around 
less  than  $50,000 in cash (106) is obviously  nonsense  of  the 
first  order, but Capone's extraordinary personal generosity  and 
kindness were undoubtedly for real. He died January 25, 1947.
  Although Capone retired from public life with his gaoling, Ness 
did  not. The Untouchables were disbanded, but Ness  remained  in 
government service, and during World War Two he served as  Direc-
tor of Social Protection for the Federal Security Agency and  was 
given  the  appropriate task for an accomplished  brown-noser  of 
"combating venereal disease in and near every military establish-
ment  in the United States". (107) How he undertook this  awesome 
task the mind boggles, but the scatological, bird-brained nincom-
poops  who run the United States Government were  obviously  more 
than satisfied with his work, and he was awarded a medal for  it. 
He died of a heart attack on May 16, 1957. (108)


The Making Of Two Myths: TV Lends A Hand


The  Untouchables  were immortalised by an eponymous  TV  series, 
with  the  actor Robert Stack playing the title role.  There  was 
also  a  much more recent film with Kevin Costner  playing  Ness. 
Neither  Stack  nor Costner could be said to portray  Ness  as  a 
debonair sort, but Capone, where he appears in any dramatisation, 
is  portrayed as an overweight, unsightly thug, the  exact  alter 
ego  of the incorruptible Ness. Ness, let it never be  forgotten, 
was  a  man who, by his own admission, enforced a law  he  didn't 
really  believe in, who tapped people's telephones and  spied  on 
them  in numerous other ways, a man who took pride in  destroying 
wealth-creating private enterprise at the behest of a  megalithic 
Federal  Government which owed its very existence to the  efforts 
of  entrepreneurs like Al Capone. And, to cap it all,  this  same 
$gang-buster$,  this $Untouchable$, spent the Second  World  War, 
not in a military uniform, not even as a Federal agent, but as  a 
government  snoop inspecting toilets, lecturing soldiers  on  the 
evils  of promiscuity, or whatever it is that people  who  combat 
venereal disease are obliged to do to earn their sinecures.


Why Prohibition Was Really Repealed


The  $Encyclopedia  Americana's$ claim that Prohibition  was  re-
pealed because "the nation's most influential people, as well  as 
the  general  public, acknowledged that it had failed" is  a  lie 
that has been manufactured from the whole cloth. Many other  laws 
have $failed$, proved unworkable or counter-productive, but  that 
hasn't  prevented  them either from remaining in force  or  being 
strengthened.  The real reason for Prohibition's repeal has  less 
to  do  with either morality or concern for the  welfare  of  the 
people than with plain, old-fashioned economics. The reader  will 
recall  the signs hung outside the London gin shops  guaranteeing 
to  make their customers "drunk for one penny and dead drunk  for 
two  pence". Another common vice - besides drunkenness -  is  the 
demon  weed. During Prohibition, cigarettes retailed  for  around 
one  penny each! (109) Today, ie 1995, you won't get a bottle  of 
whisky for much less than fifteen quid, while fags will cost  you 
around two pounds fifty for twenty. (110)
  Granted that the prices of virtually all commodities will  have 
risen in actual if not real terms since the 18th Century or  even 
since the 1920s, (111) this still leaves a veritable crevasse  to 
fill.  And that crevasse has been filled almost entirely  by  one 
thing: tax.
  The  British daily newspaper $Today$ reported in  its  December 
10, 1994 issue the following price breakdown for booze, fags  and 
petrol:


In  each case the first price is the retail price, the second  is 
the  combined tax (duty, sales tax, VAT). The price is given  for 
20 Marlboro brand cigarettes and one litre of petrol; prices have 
been rounded to the nearest penny.

                    UK           Germany               Australia


Scotch           L12.00            L9.50                  L14.21     
                  L6.18            L3.50                   L6.11

Wine              L2.75               84p                  L1.10
(bottle)          L1.05                6p                     97p

Beer                 99p              40p                     60p     
                     22p               4p                     36p 

Cigs              L2.70            L1.90                   L2.54  
                  L1.15            L1.20                      89p

Petrol               60p              66p                     36p
(leaded)             36p              48p                      3p

Petrol               53p              60p                     35p
(unleaded)           31p              40p                      3p


It will be seen from the above table that prices vary considerab-
ly  -  as one would expect - from country to country, as  do  the 
duties on the various products. In Germany, the duty on  unleaded 
petrol makes up a staggering two thirds of its price at the pumps 
while  in Australia it is less than (less than!) 10%.  (112)  The 
reason  for the low [sic] duty on petrol in Australia is  clearly 
because  of  the  size of the country. Like  the  United  States, 
people often have to travel vast distances in the course of their 
work  or daily lives. On the other hand, although Australia is  a 
wine  producing country, the tax on a bottle of wine makes  up  a 
staggering  88+% of the cost price! Clearly this tax  is  totally 
unnecessary except for the purposes of a) regulating the  average 
Aussie's lifestyle, (113) and b) ripping off the consumer for the 
express  purpose of funding an inflated and  totally  unnecessary 
bureaucracy.
  Here then is why the so-called great experiment of  Prohibition 
failed,  the social policy makers decided that it would  be  much 
more  worthwhile  to legalise booze in order  to  facilitate  yet 
another  gigantic rip-off of the already oppressed  public.  This 
was the reason, the only reason, the American Government admitted 
its mistake and repealed the Prohibition law. And it may  eventu-
ally  be the same reason which leads to the repeal of that  other 
and even more outrageous form of Prohibition, the war on drugs. A 
short  survey  of  this will conclude the  current  study,  first 
though,  let us take a brief look at another, and far  less  well 
known  aspect  of Prohibition, that of the oppression  of  ethnic 
minorities.


An Unexplored Facet Of The Campaign Against Al Capone


We come now to an aspect of the government sponsored campaign  to 
destroy  Al  Capone  which has been written out  of  the  history 
books.  Capone's cardinal sin was that he gave people  what  they 
wanted  and  was spectacularly successful into the  bargain.  His 
other sin is that although he was white, he was Latin rather than 
Anglo-Saxon. This $ethnic bias$ - to put it euphemistically - was 
something  that  was very prevalent then and is still  so  today, 
though now it manifests itself primarily in the war on drugs, but 
also to some extent in the campaign against that other taboo free 
market, prostitution.
  Capone  was of course far from the only American $gangster$  of 
Latin heritage in the 1920s, and Latins were not the only  minor-
ity involved in servicing a thirsty public, the bootleg  industry 
was  also  heavily  Jewish. The Jewish  $gangster$  Meyer  Lansky 
(1902-83)  was  one of many others besides Capone et al  who  was 
harassed  not  only  on account of his services  to  free  market 
capitalism  but also because of his birth. Under the Law  of  Re-
turn,  any Jew born anywhere in the world has the right  to  emi-
grate  to  Israel; Lansky was refused entry to the  country,  un-
questionably  under pressure from the United  States  Government. 
"When  you're a Jew," he said, "the whole world's  against  you." 
(114)
  Lansky  should have said "When you're not Anglo-Saxon", for  it 
wasn't  just  the Jews and the Italians, indeed  nowadays  it  is 
hardly  them  at all - as most of them have moved up  the  social 
ladder  into $legitimate$ businesses. Nowadays it is,  primarily, 
if you're black, you'll find the authorities jumping on you  from 
a great height when you try to make an honest dollar by providing 
a  service which the United States Government in its  wisdom  has 
decided  that its citizens are to be denied the pleasure of.  The 
majority of drug dealers in most American inner cities are black, 
and a great many of those working the streets as whores and pimps 
are  black. Whatever one may think of whores or the men who  live 
off them, there is no element of compulsion in any such  transac-
tion.  No $john$ has to seek out the services of a hooker.  (115) 
Leaving  aside  the Puritan mentality of many of the  people  re-
sponsible  for  drafting social policy in the United  States,  in 
view of the experience of Capone and that enlightening protest of 
Lansky,  the continued outlawing of a substantial sector  of  the 
free  market under the pretext of saving people  from  themselves 
(116)  is  nothing  less than part of the - for  the  most  part, 
invisible  - class structure of the United States. And  one  that 
ensures  that  if  your face doesn't fit,  particularly  if  it's 
black, you stay right at the bottom.


The  Evil Legacy Of Eliot Ness: The War On Drugs And The  End  Of 
The Rule Of Law


One pundit has written of Al Capone that he was "the creation and 
the  victim of his times". (117) This is indeed true. It is  also 
true that the current generation is the victim of Capone's times, 
because  while  their good dies with them, the evil that  men  do 
lives  after them, and few men did more evil than Eliot Ness  and 
the other servants of the corrupt system of statist repression he 
and they helped to create and maintain. Although Eliot Ness  died 
in 1957, his evil legacy is all around in the United States,  and 
manifests  itself  in the Draconian legislation  which  has  been 
ushered through Congress by the tactic of frightening and wilful-
ly deceiving the public in the phony war on drugs.
  The  drug  menace is so terrible, so all-encompassing,  such  a 
threat to the survival of civilisation, we are told, that it must 
be stamped out by any means necessary. The simple fact though  is 
that any man, woman or child can walk into their local supermark-
et and buy poison, be it boot polish or Vitamin D. (118) The idea 
that  such  commonplace commodities should be  regulated  because 
they  can be dangerous if misused has never quite caught  on.  It 
could  be that recreational drugs have been singled out  for  the 
simple  reason that they are recreational, as is  alcohol.  What-
ever,  the  Draconian laws that have been foisted upon  the  good 
citizens of America - and other countries - in order, ostensibly, 
to  combat  the non-existent drug menace, are now  being  quietly 
extended to other areas.
  The  April 1995 issue of the British Libertarian journal  $Free 
Life$  reported  the following horror story, one  such  as  could 
never have happened in Nazi Germany or even in Soviet Russia.  In 
1992, a woman in Iowa who was accused of shoplifting a $25  swea-
ter had her $18,000 automobile - which had been specially  equip-
ped for her handicapped daughter - seized as a getaway car! (119) 
This was made possible by civil asset forfeiture legislation,  in 
particular  the $Comprehensive Forfeiture Act 1984$.
  Civil asset forfeiture legislation was designed to inhibit  so-
called racketeering, which in Ness's day was centred on booze but 
is today centred on drugs. One 1992 report claimed that an  esti-
mated  $85 billion of illegal drug money a year was  being  laun-
dered through banks in the United States and Europe. (120)  While 
a  certain  amount of illegal drug money - perhaps even  a  great 
deal  - is without doubt $laundered$ through the  banking  system 
and  legitimate businesses, it is most unlikely that this  figure 
has any basis in fact, or if the true figure can even be  reason-
ably estimated. (121)
  Such legislation as civil asset forfeiture is nothing less than 
a direct and wilful usurpation of the rule of law, and has conse-
quences  for  every citizen which make it possible - and  in  the 
near  future  probable - that anytime he (or she)  steps  out  of 
line, he will be jumped on from a great height by the powers that 
be.  Imagine  the following scenario. You are  a  publisher;  you 
publish a book or magazine which is highly critical of a  govern-
ment  agency, or exposes police corruption. After an  $anonymous$ 
tip off the police raid your premises and find (or plant)  traces 
of  cocaine on a dollar bill in your safe. (122) They  confiscate 
your  business, your bank account, the lot. (123)  Theoretically, 
this course of action could be used against the wealthiest men in 
the country as a catch-all device to confiscate all their assets. 
So, if your name is Bill Gates and a police officer performing  a 
$random$  search  at a road block happens to $find$ a  spliff  in 
your car, you can kiss goodbye to Microsoft.
  Anti-drug hysteria has also led to a law which makes it  manda-
tory  to record all cash transactions over $10,000. Such  regula-
tion and people control must lead not only inevitably to  tyranny 
but to the strangulation of the economy. It is this which is  the 
true legacy of Eliot Ness, and frankly, the society which  turned 
him and his kind into heroes, deserves everything it gets. 


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: A reminder to Mr. Baron (Re: The Exterminationist Guidebook)
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In article <478vn3$l44@amhux3.amherst.edu>
           jaklein@unix.amherst.edu "Josh Klein" writes:
 
> Can't have what bpth ways, Mr. Baron?  Does the fact that Jewish guerillas
> were resisting Nazi invasions of their home countries excuse the
> brutal murder of civilians?  (

I don't see any justification for war, but that's another matter.


> I seem to remember your posting some criticism of Irving that was
> mainly preoccupied with your suspicions of his homosexuality.
> Of course, this speical obsession of yours only makes you seem
> even more repulsive to the vast majority of this newsgroup's
> readers.

Suspicion? I sent you the wrong book, Josh!

> Churchill was a man of some honor, Mr. Baron.  

You really have been brainwashed if you believe that. By the way, did you 
realise that Churchill advocated eugenics? And that he wanted to bomb Germany
with anthrax?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: A reminder to Mr. Baron (Re: The Exterminationist Guidebook)
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In article <47e8m0$luu@dns.enter.net> yawen@enter.net "Yale F. Edeiken" writes:

You have claimed that someone said "Al Baron is an 
> anti-Semite because he called David Irving a liar." or words to that effect. I
>  say 
> it's a lie.  Prove me wrong, Lyin' Al.

Why don't you ring up the editor of Searchlight? Or the editor of the Jewish
Chronicle? I think if you do you'll find the cat has got their tongues.
 

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article <47fvah$u3a@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
           gmcfee@ibm.net "Gord McFee" writes:

 
> Mr. Baron testifies to his virulent anti-Semitism every time he opens his 
> mouth.

You people take yourselves so seriously I'm astounded. You really don't 
appreciate what utter schmucks you are.


-- 
Alexander Baron

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In article <47ee7u$hok@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
           jmorris@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca "John Morris" writes:

> What makes you think that I am that interested enough to pay for the
> warped opinions and unintelligent, dishonest misreadings of a little
> man like you? 

Okay, you're not interested. So don't ask me anymore questions.


-- 
Alexander Baron

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From: Alexander Baron 
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In article <47dqur$oir@atlas.uniserve.com>
           hostrov@uniserve.com "Hilary Ostrov" writes:

> But I didn't know this (or utter it) until 1995.  Go ahead, Mr. Baron,
> make my day ... call me a liar, too. 

For the Nth time I had no idea the Mueller Report was a fabrication, AND AS
SOON AS  THE FORGERY WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION I DISOWNED IT.

You people on the other hand are so far gone that you will do anything but 
admit that a Jew - Kitty Hart - has told a pack of absurd lies. I was taken in
by a credible forgery. Your deception is self-deception


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Alexander Baron

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In article 
           cendbj@bonaly.hw.ac.uk "David Johnston" writes:
 
> Does this not strike you as a little odd? If he is a "committed Libertarian", 
> why does he support the "screwing" of money out of people who stock (not even 
> publish) a "certain" magazine? Why do you, for that matter? Are you only a 
> libertarian providing nobody disagrees with you? Or just a hypocrite?

No, but unlike you I know what free speech means. If someone were to denouce
you to the police for murdering your wife and burying her in the back garden
you wouldn't be surprised if the police charged him with wasting police time.
There is such a thing as property right in one's reputation. Also, when one
is assaulted as a result of other people's malice that too goes beyond free
speech.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Jewish Chronicle endorses conspiracy crank
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It had to happen, the newspaper that wails and whines about conspiracies
more than any other has finally gone full circle. The latest Jewish Chronicle
contains an in-depth interview with one of the fakers of the MJ-12 saucer
crash documents. I suppose I should have realised that with a name like
Stanton Friedman this former nuclear physicist was Jewish. What will they
endorse next, the Protocols of Zion?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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Two Israeli businessmen have just been arrested in Turkey where they face
heavy gaol sentences for the "crime" of smuggling heroin, according to the latest
Jewish Chronicle.

According to Harry Mazal, such men are evil poisoners of our children. Baron
on the other and recognises them for what they are: latter day Al Capones
bridging the gap between willing sellers and buyers.

It remains to be seen which of us, Baron or Mazal is truly an anti-Semite.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Frivolous litigation?
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So-called anti-racists in France have dropped a legal action against the 
publishers of an "offensive bible" which refers to Jews as God killers.

Who'd want to bring an action for defamation to exonerate one's ancestors
for the alleged crime of murdering a schizophrenic in Palestine 2,000 years ago?
Assuming he existed, that is?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article <814875750snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>
           A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk "Alexander Baron" writes:

> In article <199510271456.PAA20870@utopia.hacktic.nl>
>            byersl@ucsu.colorado.edu "Western" writes:
>  
> > >Mr. Farrakahan,
> > 
> > >My name is Rufus Washington.  I am a 25 year old oppressed black man.
> > >I dropped out of school at 14  to pursue a career in dealing drugs,
> > >and I have been in and out of jail ever since. 
> 
> You are oppressed, Mr Washington. Specifically you are oppressed by a system
> that turns you into an outlaw by criminalising your legitimate business of
> providing willing buyers - black and white - with a narcotic substance for 
> recreational use. The very same system criminalised Al Capone 70 years ago
> for providing a similar public service. It is not racism but mass hysteria
> and collective psychosis. What you should do is lobby for the legalisation 
> of crack, cocaine and heroin.


Much as I hate to follow up on my own message, I don't recall posting this in
alt.smokers and wonder if anybody can tell me how it got here.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: Al Baron's "documentation" of Ritual Murder?
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In article  t08o@unb.ca "MORRISON  KEITH MURRAY" writes:

> In article <815270533snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> Alexander Baron
>   writes:
> 
> >I believe I had some correspondence with Jamie about this awhile ago. There
> >were quite a few confessions, Rabbi Jossel confessed for one. Bear in mind
> >that I do not believe Jews ever practiced ritual murder, what I am saying is
> >that there is confession and other evidence that they did. The same way there
> >is confession and other evidence of gas chambers.
> 
> 
> Please state was piece of evidence *other* than testimony you have to this 
> effect.

They dug up some bones. Read the book THE MYTH OF RITUAL MURDER

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: Put Up Or Shut Up
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In article <47casl$90s@nimitz.fibr.net>
           Harry W. Mazal OBE "hmazal@txdirect.net, San Antonio, Texas" writes:



I've just received a batch of messages from the Archive Manager who (is this
a person or a machine?) says they haven't been posted, so I'm posting them
here. I thought they had been, but what the Hell.



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> Ah.  Then you admit that this talk about what your lawyers will or won't let
> you say was another Baron Lie(tm).
>
> Amazing.  Not that any of this would be true, mind, but amazing that you'd
> admit it.


No, stupid. I have a lawyer who is acting for me on two other matters, my
claim against the police and a claim for criminal injuries. I decided also
to take procedural advice. I do all my own drafting, affidavits etc, but
the law of libel is so incredibly complex that it is extremely difficult
for a litigant in person. Most people are surprised I've got this far. The
rest are worried about how far I will get.


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> Howdy..

Howdy. Your posting is a tissue of distortions.

> After observing the Mazal/Baron war for the past months, I just thought an
> opinion might be in order. IMHO, Baron is a PITA litigious anti-Semite. As
> a journalist/author of sorts, he uses the Crown Courts to gain needed
> publicity, although I never heard of him before alt.revisionism.

Do you know what allegations I am suing over? If you don't, hold your tongue.


>In the UK, monetary awards are not decided by
> a jury, but instead calculated by a complicated process called
> Quantitative, and they relate to actual loss rather than the whims of a
> jury. 85k for a civil damages suit is enormous by British standards.

Wrong.


> Libel and slander cases in the UK border on the comical. While the Crown
> Prosecution Service is well known for refusing to prosecute rapists,

The CPS NEVER prosecutes rapists because no rapist is ever prosecuted.
ALLEGED rapists are prosecuted. The CPS will not bring a case unless it has
a reasonable chance, or unless there is meaningful evidence.

>those
> who assault, and major criminals, people like William Roache (a popular
> soap opera character 'Ken Barlow') are awarded large sums for being called
> 'boring.'

You cannot compare the civil law with the criminal law.

It would seem Mr Baron's suits are about on the same level, and
> appropriately, seem to be successful. In the US, his cases would be
> laughed out of court. Mr Baron's frivolous litigation is unmentioned in
> the UK press, AFAIK, and has little if any impact beyond Mr Barons wallet.

How can you call my litigation frivolous if you don't know what it is about?


> Mr Baron's vituperative replies to posts here usually consist of rebuttal
> by 'you can't really believe that is possible, do you?" logic. That is
> usually the crux of his rebuttal: his own opinions and values, sans
> evidence.

In a court of law, EVIDENCE is required. In an English court, hearsay is
not evidence.

> It also seems strange to me that Mr Baron kept tantalizing us with
> "October 22!!!", but he disappeared on the day before, and only reappeared
> three days ago, on demon's server. Why the absence? It all goes to
> credibility, which Mr Baron is losing fast, IMHO.

The problem is your server; I've been on every day.


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>
>  What you should do is lobby for the legalisation
>   of crack, cocaine and heroin.
>
> Does Mr. Baron indulge in the use of any of the above? Do his children?

No.


> Does he really believe that  legalization of these drugs will make the
> world a safer place for his children?

Harry, when they start talking about defending your children they are
really talking about destroying your rights.

> How successful was the British experiment that allowed drug users to
> obtain drugs at a low cost?

Heroin, concaine? Enlighten me.

> Enquiring minds wish to know.  Some Libertarians espouse this
> philosophy including my admired friend, Dr. Milton Friedman.


More to the point, what right does a boring old fart like you have to tell
a black man that he has no right to sell drugs or a man of any race what
he mayt or may not shove up his own nose?


--
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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> This is but one of many such examples - once, Baron confused
> the gas chambers of Treblinka and Auschwitz.

Dan, I've read the War Refugee Board Report intently, and I know the
alleged layout of these "gas chambers". In spite of the numerous contradictions.




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> No Jew, to my knowledge, has ever confessed to "ritual murder" except
> under torture. 

Wrong!

> There is no documentary evidence, bar proven forgeries,
> of Jewish ritual murder.  

Wrong!
>There is no physical evidence of Jewish ritual
> murder.  

Wrong!

>There are no eyewitnesses to any act of Jewish ritual murder.

Wrong!

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy




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Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
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In article <814875750snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>
           A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk "Alexander Baron" writes:

> In article <199510271456.PAA20870@utopia.hacktic.nl>
>            byersl@ucsu.colorado.edu "Western" writes:
>  
> > >Mr. Farrakahan,
> > 
> > >My name is Rufus Washington.  I am a 25 year old oppressed black man.
> > >I dropped out of school at 14  to pursue a career in dealing drugs,
> > >and I have been in and out of jail ever since. 
> 
> You are oppressed, Mr Washington. Specifically you are oppressed by a system
> that turns you into an outlaw by criminalising your legitimate business of
> providing willing buyers - black and white - with a narcotic substance for 
> recreational use. The very same system criminalised Al Capone 70 years ago
> for providing a similar public service. It is not racism but mass hysteria
> and collective psychosis. What you should do is lobby for the legalisation 
> of crack, cocaine and heroin.


Much as I hate to follow up on my own message, I don't recall posting this in
alt.smokers and wonder if anybody can tell me how it got here.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
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In article <814875750snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>
           A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk "Alexander Baron" writes:

> In article <199510271456.PAA20870@utopia.hacktic.nl>
>            byersl@ucsu.colorado.edu "Western" writes:
>  
> > >Mr. Farrakahan,
> > 
> > >My name is Rufus Washington.  I am a 25 year old oppressed black man.
> > >I dropped out of school at 14  to pursue a career in dealing drugs,
> > >and I have been in and out of jail ever since. 
> 
> You are oppressed, Mr Washington. Specifically you are oppressed by a system
> that turns you into an outlaw by criminalising your legitimate business of
> providing willing buyers - black and white - with a narcotic substance for 
> recreational use. The very same system criminalised Al Capone 70 years ago
> for providing a similar public service. It is not racism but mass hysteria
> and collective psychosis. What you should do is lobby for the legalisation 
> of crack, cocaine and heroin.


Much as I hate to follow up on my own message, I don't recall posting this in
alt.smokers and wonder if anybody can tell me how it got here.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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Subject: Re: Why not make more of the Mueller Document forgery?
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In article <475fse$jds@dns.enter.net> yawen@enter.net "Yale F. Edeiken" writes:


>    I wrote no such thing.  Apology please.
> 

If it wasn't you, who was it? Harry? 

-- 
Alexander Baron

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In article 
           warren@nysernet.org "Warren Burstein" writes:

> In <814822761snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> Alexander Baron
>   writes:
> 
> >Baron is still in litigation, and his wallet has never been fatter.
> 
> Does Baron have any other source of income besides his publications
> and lawsuits?

Yes, he pimps off his Jewish girlfriend.

-- 
Alexander Baron

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In article <474nb3$oas@nimitz.fibr.net>
           Harry W. Mazal OBE "hmazal@txdirect.net, San Antonio, Texas" writes:


> border on sedition to show that Libertarian freedom of expression is still alive> in this country...no matter how offensive the material.\

Harry, if someone incited your murder - as a named individual - and you were to
file charges, you would have my 100% support.
 
> But I forgot. Mr. Baron is a Libertarian of the highest order. One who would 
> let little children buy cocaine freely on the market. 

Harry, when did I ever say I would allow children to buy cocaine? What I said
was when people like you start talking about defending our children what you
really mean are destroying our rights. I take it you think that consenting 
adults do not have the right to use cocaine?


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article <474o0i$oas@nimitz.fibr.net>
           Harry W. Mazal OBE "hmazal@txdirect.net, San Antonio, Texas" writes:
Any person with the slightest amount of dignity would
> give any such moneys to charity raher than crow about a supposed success.

Some of this money came from a charity. One that stocks newspapers that incite
the murders of policmen and judges. (Incidentally, the Lord Chief Justice, 
Lord Taylor, is Jewish, so such incitements might be construed as anti-Semitic).


> The reality is that much of what was settled on Mr. Baron in order to eliminate
> tedious litigation, was garnished in another court to pay for his failed effort
> to sue fine and upright citizens of that fair country. 

Cut the crap Harry and answer MY questions.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: Baron's Ignorance (Re: I Am a Non-Bigoted Re)
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In article  dkeren@world.std.com "Daniel Keren" writes:

 
> The Treblinka gas chambers were not connected to any crematoria; 
> Baron made a (typically idiotic) extrapolation from Treblinka
> to Auschwitz.

You're forgetting something Dan; they were not gas chambers in Treblinka
but steam chambers. Now who's a zero?

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: More of Baron's Rubbish (Re: More Hartfelt fantasies)
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In article <475fao$jds@dns.enter.net> yawen@enter.net "Yale F. Edeiken" writes:


>   You are, as usual, dodging the question.  The question is not whether the 
> photographs were published but whether they were staged.  Why can't you 
> answer this simple question?

To the best of my knowledge they were not staged; I think you will find
this sort of thing is not disputed by former British prisoners of war.

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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In article  dkeren@world.std.com "Daniel Keren" writes:

 Since the baby was on the floor, that
> has increased its chances of survival, because HCN gas is lighter
> than air and rises. 

So people were gassed with a lighter than air gas that was dropped from the
ceiling?

 This claim makes no sense. Birkenau

> was an extermination camp, and we know (even Baron agrees to this)
> that the SS burned people alive in other camps. 

You're trying it on again, Dan. What Baron said (yawn) was that an atrocity
at a German camp (Wobbelin?) at the end of the war involved a group of SS
setting a barn afire with people in it. This was a war time atrocity, not
part of any extermination programme. I do not concede that people were 
burnt alive in ovens. Dig?

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article <475oru$srk@amhux3.amherst.edu>
           jaklein@unix.amherst.edu "Josh Klein" writes:

> Oh, Mr. Baron, when will you ever stop using the rather inept analogy
> of belief in flying saucers.  Does the so-called flying saucer
> conspiracy involve the creation of flying-saucer remains?  Does it
> involve the signed confessions of numerous aliens, and the recorded
> speech of one high-up alien talking about how he intends to visit earth?
> Does it include intercepted wartime transmissions between flying
> saucers, or the diaries and correspondence of officers aboard the
> flying saucers?
> 
> I think that you are underestimating just how huge and complex
> a conspiracy would have to be in order to fool people into
> believing in the Holocaust.

Once again Josh, you are putting the word conspiracy in my mouth. I never
said there was any such thing.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: A reminder to Mr. Baron (Re: The Exterminationist Guidebook)
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In article <4756al$d8@mn5.swip.net>
           stephane.bruchfeld@mailbox.swipnet.se "Stephane Bruchfeld" writes:


> That is a reasonable principle. But what is the nature of this
> ignorance? Is it that you are not aware of the massive
> documentation that exists about mass killings of Jews by the
> various special units in the Soviet Union under German
> occupation, or that you are not - as yet - sufficiently prepared,
> as a denier, to deal with this evidence?
> However, since you haven't disagreed with my interpretation, i.e.
> that the documents constitute evidence of mass murder of Jews in
> the autumn of 1941 and that they furthermore indicate the change
> to a coded language, I take it that you do not find it, at face
> value, an unreasonable interpretation. Am I correct in my
> assumption?

I agree with the judgment of Dr Butz that a great deal of killing went on
on the Eastern front, including of civilians. These things happen in war;
this was not genocide though. Furthermore, the Jewish Chronicle and other
Jewish sources boast that Jewish partisans were heavily involved in the 
fight on the Eastern front, so you can't have it both ways.


> Mr. Baron, is there anything you have published about your
> researches that I may order from you? Is there anything
> especially concerning Auschwitz? What would you consider to be
> your main contribution to the knowledge about this camp?

My main contribution is yet to come! My book is called HOLOCAUST DENIAL: NEW
NAZI LIE or NEW INQUISITION? I have also published a documented expose of
David Irving, including of his lies and perjury. For this I am branded an
anti-Semite. I'll send you a list if you like.


> From the perspective of the victim it probably does not matter
> very much, but it is of course important to make the difference
> between all too common atrocities and genocide. In this case, if
> I understand you correctly, you mean to say that the Germans did
> commit atrocities but were not guilty of genocide. For the sake
> of the argument, since I wish to learn where you draw the line,
> let us assume that the Germans did systematically line up and
> kill Jewish civilians, men, women and children, over all of the
> conquered territory in the autumn of 1941? Mr. Baron, would you
> then agree to call this genocide, or attempted genocide? Or would
> you consider it more correct to use the descripion "atrocity"? 

I would call this war time atrocities, since I believe that Jewish suffering
is no worse and no better than anyone else's. These things happen in war.
Churchill could have stopped them by agreeing to Hitler's magnanimous peace
terms. He was at least as responsible as Hitler for the Second World War,
undoubtedly more so after 1941.

 

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Why not make more of the Mueller Document forgery?
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In article <4764kb$r8v@access5.digex.net>
           mstein@access5.digex.net "Michael P. Stein" writes:

> In article <814976199snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>,
> Alexander Baron   wrote:
> >Harry, I have two court orders in my favour, other people's money in my 
> >pocket and more to come.
> 
>     Excuse me?  I thought you said you were offered and accepted a
> settlement, which implies no court ruled on the merits of your case. 

I have settled with several of the defendants. In England an order of the
court has to be made: a consent order.
 
>     As for other people's money in your pocket, that's a frequent
> occurrence in this country, where even defendants who would clearly
> prevail at trial settle simply because the expense of litigation exceeds
> the amount at issue. 

This works both ways.

 Now, I realize that in Britain a successful
> defendant can recoup expenses from the losing plaintiff, but that requires
> that the plaintiff be sufficiently well-heeled to pay said expenses.
>  If
> you lose your suit, do you have enough money to cover the legal expenses
> of the defendants?  

I can't comment on this case, but the thought of losing this suit has never
crossed my mind.

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Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Is Jamie McCarthy totally spineless or totally credulous?
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In article 
           karlpov@access5.digex.net "Charles R.L. Power" writes:


> You have not yet gotten even close to proving your endless whining about
> this Kitty Hart's mendacity. First, the story she told remains quite 
> plausible, 

riotous laughter.

and second, there is no reason to believe that she did not 
hear such a story,

well, I've heard a story that AIDS was invented by the US government to wipe
out blacks. I've also heard a story that a Jewish doctor invented the polio
vaccine to poison American children. Like Hart's story these are obscene,
absurd, and hate.

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Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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Subject: Re: Is Jamie McCarthy totally spineless or totally credulous?
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In article  t08o@unb.ca "MORRISON  KEITH MURRAY" writes:

 
> WRONG!  There is no *undisputable* film of aliens or UFOs.  There is, 
> however, totally undisputable films showing the existance of concentration 
> camps.  As well, there are physical remains of the concentration camps, 
> there are none of UFOs.  Physical evidence is not just film, so grow up.

Tut tut, equivocating again. In the first paragraph you were talking about
extermination camps, now you're talking about concentration camps.


> WRONG!  There are official documents to the Holocaust that *no one* has 
> proven forged.  And if Phil Klass proved it forged, it is not an official 
> document, is it?


Yes, but these documents don't prove exterminations!
> >How many millions of people does it take to pass and enforce laws making
> >Revisionism illegal? How many people does it take to freeze Revisionists out
> >of the media and academia? Not many. This has happened.
> 
> 
> Non-sequitor.  Answer the question.


The point I was making is that there are plenty of people who dispute your
version of events, they just don't get the sort of media exposure you do.


> >Many "perpetrators" have denied it. In fact most of them blamed other people.
> >The judge at the Auschwitz trial said he had yet to meet anyone who had
> >done anything at Auschwitz!
> 
> 
> Citations please.  I do not accept your word for anything.

a) Are you calling me a liar?
b) If I give you a citation, will you retract and apologise?
c) When you call me a liar, that's fine. When I call someone a liar, 
that's anti-Semitism.

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Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article  t08o@unb.ca "MORRISON  KEITH MURRAY" writes:

> In article <815127617snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> Alexander Baron
>   writes:
> 
> 
> >> No Jew, to my knowledge, has ever confessed to "ritual murder" except
> >> under torture. 
> 
> >Wrong!
> 
> 
> Citation!  Talk shows are irrelevant.

Oh no they're not.
> 
> 
> >> There is no documentary evidence, bar proven forgeries,
> >> of Jewish ritual murder.  
> 
> >Wrong!
> 
> 
> Citation!  Talk shows are irrelevant.
> 
> 
> >>There is no physical evidence of Jewish ritual
> >> murder.  
> 
> >Wrong!


I've posted this before, Jamie McCarthy checked it out. Try THE MYTH OF 
RITUAL MURDER to start with.
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Alexander Baron

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In article <476pml$315i@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
           gmcfee@ibm.net "Gord McFee" writes:

 
> I can assure you the documents are genuine, unless you choose to call me a 
> liar.  I have seen many similar documents when I was employed one summer 
> translating German Wehrmacht field dispatches into English.  (A job I would 
> never do again, by the way.)

> Indeed there is, and I will be interested to see your research on this.


If you're referring to the Einsatzgruppen documents, check out Butz. He says a
lot of these were definitely forged. Irving has written a book about this sort
of thing, unfortunately it's only been published in German.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article <477fop$924@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
           jmorris@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca "John Morris" writes:


> When Mr. Baron brought this whole matter up way back in may, I believe
> that he claimed he was suing because he had been called an antisemite.

You're wrong; why don't you contact the editor of Searchlight and ask him
to fax you the article?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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Subject: Re: Harry Mazal - Living Proof Of The Need For Revisionism
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In article <477fvd$924@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>
           jmorris@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca "John Morris" writes:
 
> Yeah, yeah.
> 
> You may have other people's money in your pockets in exchange for
> selling your reputation, but you won't have any of mine.

Then have your ignorance instead, John.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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In article <476pmp$315i@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
           gmcfee@ibm.net "Gord McFee" writes:


> Why is Ms. Hart not credible for having said this?  Would you claim it is 
> physically impossible for an SS man to dash out a young child's head?  There 
> are testimonies that exactly that kind of thing happened.  The fact that she 
> might have seen certain things that were not put in her book means nothing 
> more than exactly that.

She said this in 1993. Obviously she had just made it up. Like I said, the
lies grow with every retelling.



-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: I Am a Non-Bigoted Re
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In article <476pnc$315i@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
           gmcfee@ibm.net "Gord McFee" writes:
 
> So now we know why you hate Irving so much.  I am starting to understand you, 
> Al.  The only thing I'm not sure about is why you have this love affair with 
> Al Capone.

The question you should ask, Mr McFee, is why has the Jewish Chronicle smeared
me from pillar to post for exposing Britain's (supposedly) most notorious and
dangerous anti-Semite? Why has it covered up for him? Why did a Jewish-owned
magazine denounce my expose of Irving as libellous? Why is "anti-Semite" Irving
given access to Jewish archives when I - who was working in collaboration with
an Orthodox rabbi - was thrown out of the Wiener Library?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: Baron's Surprising Admissions
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In article <478es9$bep@shiva.usa.net> hkatz@earth.usa.net "Harry Katz" writes:

> In article <815176708snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>,
> Alexander Baron (A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk) whines:
> 
>         It's when I come across people like you I can understand why
>         anti-Semites believe all the things they do about Jews.
> 
> It's when I come across sentiments like this that I can label Mr. Baron an
> anti-Semite!  Tell me why it is "understandable" to tar me and my family
> because someone who happens to be Jewish has been needling Mr. Baron.

A while ago I was going home and sat in a railway carriage at Victoria Station.
The only other occupant was a young black guy. A young woman opened the door, saw
us sitting there together, then slammed the door and walked off to another 
carriage. I looked at my companion and we laughed. If we had both been black
this might have been put down to "racism". The truth is very different. A short
while before this incident a young woman had been murdered on this very line.
The news reports speculated that she had been murdered as the train passed 
through the tunnel which is a few hundred yards from my flat.

I don't hate this young woman for being suspicious of myself and my unidentified
companion. But I understand it. I don't hate or despise any woman who sees
me walking behind her in the dark, not since I was attacked myself. I understand
it. Many women would call me a male chauvinist pig because I happen to think 
women are different. I don't think Jews are different, even though most of the
people in this newsgroup seem to think they are, and that no one must ever say
anything that even one of them doesn't like.

I don't hate women who distrust men, because I know that all rapists are men
even though all men are not rapists. I've never raped a woman, but I understand 
and accept that to a strange woman - or maybe even to one who knows me - 
I am a potential rapist. I understand and accept the fact that to most parents
I am a potential child molester, and if I were to stand and admire a young girl
in the street, perhaps as the daughter I have never had, many mothers would not
understand. 
 
By the same token, I understand people who have been hounded, slandered,
smeared and denounced to high heaven by Jews who think that being Jewish puts
them above all criticism. I understand people tarring all Jews with the same
brush when so many Jews tar them with the same brush as Hitler or Streicher,
the way they denounce me for refusing to believe second or third hand gossip
about a young baby surviving a gas chamber only to be thrown into an oven by
a demonic SS man. I understand the Zundels of this world, who have been hounded
by feisty Jews for ten years and dragged into court twice. I understand the
likes of Lady Birdwood who has been dragged into court twice by Jewish schemers
simply because she seeks - in her naive way - to save Christian civiliisation 
from the Jewish conspiracy and the Jews from their own folly. I understand 
it because I myself have been smeared from pillar to post, when a pamphlet I 
wrote in defence of schechita is smeared as anti-Semitic, when I am accused of
making common cause with the likes of Eustace Mullins for exposing his 
hatemongering, when I have my home raided and my computer confiscated for 
six months at the behest of lying, scheming Zionist Jews who then incite
violence against me in the Jewish Chronicle while covering up for real
anti-Semites. I understand all these things.


What makes you think anti-Semitism - real or imagined - is such a unique sin,
Harry? What makes - not you so much - but the likes of Dan Keren, think they 
are special, above all criticism? It wasn't me who pogrommed your ancestors?
It wasn't me who burnt some unfortunate Rabbi at the stake for ritual murder
500 years ago. Why do you think no one should ever think ill of you, or say
anything disparaging about either you or your race? Why the great taboo?
I'd really like to know, Harry.


 

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Al Baron's "documentation" of Ritual Murder?
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In article <476l51$ji@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca>
           kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca "Ken McVay OBC" writes:

> In article <815127617snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
> 
> >In article <473fbn$4g3@larry.cc.emory.edu>
> >           libwca@larry.cc.emory.edu "william c anderson" writes:
> 
> >> No Jew, to my knowledge, has ever confessed to "ritual murder" except
> >> under torture. 
> 
> >Wrong!
> 
> _Do_ enlighten us, Mr. Baron! Where is this confession?
> (Having just completed Wm. Nicholl's work on "Christian
> Antisemitism" which deals with this subject, I can hardly
> wait.)
> 
> While you're at it, Mr. Baron, you might discuss what Vatican
> II had to say about the subject, and how that statement
> evolved into its final form.

I believe I had some correspondence with Jamie about this awhile ago. There
were quite a few confessions, Rabbi Jossel confessed for one. Bear in mind
that I do not believe Jews ever practiced ritual murder, what I am saying is
that there is confession and other evidence that they did. The same way there
is confession and other evidence of gas chambers.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: 22nd October, 1995
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In article 
           joelr@winternet.com "Joel Rosenberg" writes:

> >Yes, he pimps off his Jewish girlfriend.
> 
> And Lyin' Al claims he's not an anti-Semite, and expects people to believe him.

Baron says he has a Jewish girlfriend; therefore Baron is an anti-Semite. 
Typical exterminationist logic.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Harry Mazal - Living Proof Of The Need For Revisionism
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In article 
           joelr@winternet.com "Joel Rosenberg" writes:

> >> You know, I think you really believe this.  Amazing.  
> 
> >You want me to E-mail you the proof?
> 
> Absolutely, with the understanding that nothing you send me is in any way in 
> confidence.  
> 

I've lost track now; send me an E-mail telling me exactly what it is you want and
I'll reply in E-mail.
-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: Gold fillings
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In article 
           mvanalst@rbi.com "Mark Van Alstine" writes:

> The translation of a report from the Staatsarchiv Nurnberg.
> 
> This translation was taken from "Concentration Camp Dachau 1933-1945" 
> (ISBN 3-87490-528-4), p. 137; (Plate 283 with translation.) 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> SS-Wirtschaftsverwaltungshauptamt                        Berlin,
>                                                  October 8. 1942
> Re: Gold fillings                                        SECRET!
> 
> To the Reichsfuhrer SS
> Berlin
> 
> Reichsfuhrer!
> 
> In accordance with your order the gold from the teeth of the dead
> prisoners is to be delivered to the health department where it will be
> used for the dental treatment of our men. 

Don't forget that according to the Soviets up to 12kg a day of this were
extracted in Auschwitz!

Thanks for this posting, by the way, it will be very useful in my researches.


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: Baron Confuses Treblinka and Auschwitz (Re: Baron's Ignorance
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In article  dkeren@world.std.com "Daniel Keren" writes:

> Alexander Baron  writes:
> 
> # You're forgetting something Dan; they were not gas chambers 
> # in Treblinka but steam chambers. 
> 
> Note how Baron desperately tries to evade the issue. Amazing.
> 
> Let's take a little look at the history of this thread.
> 
> Baron said (correctly) that there were some testimonies from Poles
> that the Treblinka gas chambers used steam to kill the victims. I
> responded that this is not true

Well, the Nuremberg documents mention steam chambers, Dan. 
> 
> Note that Baron cannot admit he made this stupid mistake - he just
> can't admit it. 

I didn't confuse anything. You do get hysterical at times.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Capone vindicated - 2 of 4
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Al Capone, Gangster: Innuendo, Rumour And Unsupported
Assertions. And Outright Fraud


Following the retirement of Johnny Torrio, Capone liquidated  the 
O'Banion  mob  - who were allegedly responsible  for  the  murder 
attempt. According to Ness. (29) But whatever Ness may say  about 
Capone's  role  in the liquidation of the O'Banion  gang,  it  is 
$common  knowledge$ that Capone ordered the St.  Valentine's  Day 
Massacre  of the rival Bugs Moran gang. For example, the  presti-
gious $Encyclopedia Americana$ reports that seven members of  the 
Moran gang were gunned down on the express orders of Capone. (30) 
To  this  day, ask almost any American - and a  great  many  non-
Americans - who was Al Capone? - and they will reply that he  was 
a  gangster. Then ask them what criminal offences Al  Capone  was 
ever convicted of, and see what they say. 
  One criminal offence Al Capone was certainly never convicted of 
was  murder. Capone died in 1947, and Ness published his  memoirs 
ten  years later. It is certain that while Scarface Al was  still 
warm in his grave, all manner of innuendo was being thrown around 
about  his  responsibility for this murder or that,  indeed  such 
allegations were made frequently when he was alive, and  probably 
on more than one occasion to his face. In his book, Ness  estima-
ted  that Capone had been responsible directly or indirectly  for 
the  murders  of up to three hundred men by 1929, (31)  a  figure 
that  is too absurd to comment on. Capone himself  once  remarked 
that he had been accused of every death except the casualty  list 
in the World War. (32)
  What are the facts? One fact, as stated, is that Al Capone  was 
never convicted of murder, indeed, the only $crime$ in any  mean-
ingful  sense that he was ever convicted of was carrying a  fire-
arm,  and the circumstances under which this conviction  was  ob-
tained stink to High Heaven.
  In May 1929, Capone was picked up for carrying a pistol. As the 
right  to  bear arms is written into the  American  Constitution, 
this  was obviously only a technical offence. Yet within  sixteen 
hours  of his arrest, Capone had been tried, convicted  and  sen-
tenced to a year in gaol. (33) And this for a first offence. (34) 
In  his  fantasy  prone autobiography, Ness  comments  that  when 
Capone, "America's most feared gangster" was gaoled, his  organi-
sation wasn't broken up but was run by his brother. (35)
  When  a $feared gangster$ or someone equally obnoxious is  sent 
to  gaol the thing that usually happens is that people crawl  out 
of the woodwork to denounce him. True, Capone was only sent  down 
for a year, but this would have been long enough for the authori-
ties  to  pressurise enough members of his (supposed)  empire  to 
turn  on  him, and for the police and the Feds to  gather  enough 
incriminating  testimony from his alleged victims to keep him  in 
gaol  for a great deal longer. What happened though? Scarface  Al 
served  his time then came out and took up right where he'd  left 
off, that's what happened.
  Although  he was sentenced to a year in gaol, Ness admits  that 
Capone  - America's most feared gangster, remember - was  out  in 
ten  months with remission for $good behaviour$. (36) The  simple 
fact  is that this $feared gangster$ was a perfectly  respectable 
and indeed extremely industrious entrepreneur who had ended up on 
the wrong side of the law for a purely technical offence, he  had 
been caught carrying a firearm, which, again, the US Constitution 
is  supposed to have guaranteed him the right to do. It  is  also 
clear that few of his contemporaries could have a more bona  fide 
reason for carrying a firearm than Al Capone. 
  It  is  a well-known truism that mud sticks, and  that  however 
baseless the allegations made against someone and however  force-
fully  he  may be exonerated, there will always be  somebody  who 
reasons no smoke without fire. By the time of his arrest,  Capone 
had been built up into one of the most evil men alive by a combi-
nation  of  state-sponsored  disinformation  and   sensationalist 
gutter  press  drivel. There must have been quite  a  few  hoods, 
self-styled  avengers  or simply people out to make  a  name  for 
themselves who would have thought nothing of gunning him down  in 
cold  blood,  or perhaps attacking him in a  less  repugnant  but 
equally  disturbing  manner. Surely such a man  in  such  circum-
stances is entitled to carry a handgun for his own protection?
  As  well  as  the bust, the sentence meted out  to  Capone  was 
clearly politically motivated. The fact that the authorities were 
able to manhandle him in so brutal a manner and deal with him  in 
such a summary fashion is also evidence of, if not outright proof 
that,  he  was  in reality no manner of gangster  but  an  honest 
businessman  who,  after being harassed by  the  authorities  for 
years,  and  quite likely in fear of his life on account  of  his 
being  demonised,  was simply caught out doing  what  any  right-
minded  person  would have done under the circumstances.  It  has 
become $de rigueur$ to portray Capone as a bloated, Machiavellian 
schemer  surrounded  by  smart lawyers,  craftily  outfoxing  the 
dedicated  efforts  of the squad of special agents to  track  him 
down  and bring him to justice. Police officers, city  officials, 
even judges, are said variously to have been on his payroll.  Yet 
the  bottom  line is that when the chips were down,  he  couldn't 
even  get  bail on a minor firearm rap. The  poor  man  obviously 
never knew what hit him. Incidentally, the usual tariff for  such 
an  $offence$  was three months, (37) yet he was sentenced  to  a 
year. Surely this is further proof that Capone was anything but a 
criminal mastermind?
  However,  even after the state's repressive apparatus had  suc-
ceeded in nailing him for this trivial offence, it wasn't  satis-
fied. According to Ness, on Capone's release, a police chief  was 
said  to have promised to clap him straight back in gaol as  soon 
as he arrived home. Twenty-five men staked out his home for  four 
days  until it was decided that he wasn't going to show up.  (38) 
This  is outrageous; in the first place, $if$ Capone had  been  a 
wanted  man  he wouldn't even have been released from  gaol,  the 
authorities would have found some further charge to bring against 
him or used some other device to make sure he wasn't allowed back 
on the street. The simple fact is that Scarface Al, having served 
a  vicious sentence for a piddling misdemeanour, was targeted  by 
an over officious police officer with a grudge against the son of 
a poor Italian immigrant who had made good while he was stuck  in 
a  brown-nosing  job while masquerading as a guardian  of  public 
morality.
  Furthermore,  by  taking no less than twenty-five men  off  the 
streets (where they could have been catching real criminals),  in 
order  to  stake out the home of a man who had not even  able  to 
commit a crime for the best part of a year - even if he'd  wanted 
to  - by doing this, this police chief wasted valuable  resources 
to harass an already harassed and essentially innocuous business-
man. In short, he allowed his irrational hatred of the successful 
-  and harmless - Al Capone to over-ride his duty to protect  the 
public.
  As  well  as claiming that he had ordered the murders  of  some 
three hundred men, Ness spins his readers a fantasy about  Capone 
moving into legitimate businesses (39) where he began bombing his 
rivals.  The public didn't like it, he says. (40) Doubtless  such 
bombings  did  occur, and by the same token the  public  wouldn't 
have  liked them (the public has never been overly fond  of  bom-
bings),  but again this is innuendo, and as always it is easy  to 
libel  the dead, because they cannot answer back. Al  Capone  was 
never proved guilty of bombing anymore than he was proved  guilty 
of murder. 
  Probably  the height of Ness's chutzpah is his suggestion  that 
an  attempt on his life shortly after one of his raids,  was  the 
work of the Capone gang. (41) The fact that Capone was in gaol at 
the  time  (on the aforementioned firearms  misdemeanour)  didn't 
prevent poor Al from being blamed even for this. This  supposedly 
so Machiavellian $gangster$ couldn't prevent the state conspiracy 
from throwing him into gaol on a bum rap, yet at the same time he 
is supposed to have ordered the execution of a Justice Department 
official. (42)
  Let  us  state this again loud and clear: Al Capone  was  never 
convicted of murder, nor was he ever convicted of the bombing  of 
any  individual or property. Ness's assertions are exactly  that, 
assertions,  and totally baseless ones at that, because if  there 
had  been the slightest evidence against him he would  have  been 
charged, and more than likely, convicted. It beggars belief  that 
the  Chicago police - however corrupt they may have been -  would 
have allowed Capone or anyone to get away with eight murders (the 
St.  Valentine's  Day Massacre), and it is  simply  inconceivable 
that  a  man  who didn't have enough know-how to  escape  a  gaol 
sentence for a firearms misdemeanour would have had the savvy  to 
order and escape retribution for such an heinous crime.
  Furthermore,  although  there  was public outrage  at  the  St. 
Valentine's  Day Massacre, and other gangland killings,  none  of 
this  outrage was directed at Capone. $If$ the public had  really 
believed  any of the mud that was flung at him, they  would  have 
shown their displeasure by boycotting him and buying their liquor 
from  someone else. It is most likely that Ness, the  police  and 
the  other authorities continued to lay the blame on  Capone  for 
half  the  murders and other crimes in Chicago because he  was  a 
convenient scapegoat. He was - against his will - a high  profile 
public figure; he was also a big man with a scar on his face  who 
looked the part of the gangster or hood; (43) he was not part  of 
the  establishment, he had humble origins. And he was of  Italian 
extraction.  All they had to do was blame it all on that  devious 
schemer and gangster Capone, mutter under their breath about  how 
they couldn't touch him because he was protected or had City Hall 
in  his pocket, or some such twaddle, and they wouldn't  need  to 
justify  their  failure  to catch the real  perpetrators  of  the 
dastardly deeds. And their own incompetence.
  Again,  rather  than being either a murderer or  a  bomber,  Al 
Capone  was a successful businessman who was singled out by  both 
the  police  and the Federal Government because his  face  didn't 
fit.  In short, he was simply yet another victim  of  well-orche-
strated, vindictive and totally arbitrary state harassment.


He Was Cleared, Therefore He Did It


The  world is full of conspiracies, but conspiracy theorists  are 
frequently met with derision, often with good reason. Some people 
who postulate conspiracy theories interpret all evidence  against 
their  particular  theory as evidence $for$ it.  There  are  some 
people  -  mostly Christian Fundamentalists -  who  believe  that 
Satanists  snatch thousands of people off the streets of  America 
every  year in order to sacrifice them to the Devil. When  police 
departments  and  the  FBI have  investigated  alleged  organised 
Satanic  activity and abuse, they have found  precisely  nothing. 
(44)  So  what happens? They go into the plot as well.  Thus  the 
fact that no bodies are found proves only that the wicked  Satan-
ists  are  so clever at covering up their trail.  The  fact  that 
neither  the police nor the Feds come up with any evidence  means 
that both the police departments and the FBI have been  infiltra-
ted and taken over by the Satanists' network. And when Al  Capone 
was cleared of a crime, why, the obvious explanation, indeed  the 
only  explanation, is that he corrupted the authorities with  his 
terrible power of the purse.
  One  Capone biographer mentions a case in 1922 when Capone  was 
charged with assault with an automobile, driving while  intoxica-
ted and carrying a concealed weapon. The case never came to trial 
because,  we  are told "The charges  were  mysteriously  dropped, 
expunged  from  the  record." (45) Another  author  has  likewise 
concluded that because Capone had no criminal record he must have 
bribed  some official so that "irritating documentation could  be 
consigned to oblivion." (46)
  Notwithstanding  the fact that most of the time many  of  these 
very same officials were doing their best to make the poor  man's 
life  a  misery, this is, once again, pure innuendo.  The  simple 
fact  is  that  many people who are charged with  all  manner  of 
criminal offences never see the inside of a courtroom because the 
charges are dropped. As to why the charges are dropped, there can 
be  all  manner  of reasons. One is that  frequently  the  police 
overstep  the  mark or even fit people up. If this were  not  the 
case  then  anyone who was ever charged with a  criminal  offence 
would  be convicted. This is only intelligent speculation, but  I 
would  say  that it is likely in the above case that  Capone  was 
arrested  on a totally bum rap and that he threatened to sue  the 
police, or something of that nature. And they backed down.
  Another, quite likely explanation, is that the police  realised 
they  had  gone too far without any such  prompting,  because  in 
1922, Capone was $one of their own$, so to speak. (47)  Whatever, 
it  should never be forgotten that although by this time,  Capone 
had  long since embarked on his life of $crime$, he was still  at 
this time a very minor player. If he couldn't beat a bum  firearm 
rap  when he was kingpin, it is most unlikely that he  could  use 
his  supposedly  Machiavellian powers to extricate  himself  from 
more serious charges seven years earlier. Any suggestions to  the 
contrary  are simply loaded speculation, innuendo and  the  usual 
cheap shots.


Al Capone The Entrepreneur Versus Eliot Ness The Destroyer -  How 
It Really Was


When  one  reads communist and similar  publications  today,  the 
thing  which impresses the reader more than anything else is  the 
sheer  hatred,  venom  and nastiness that  communists  and  their 
fellow  travellers  exhibit  against anyone who  has  made  good. 
Businessmen  who have built great industrial,  retail,  wholesale 
and other empires, through their own effort, industriousness, and 
often self-sacrifice are portrayed as parasites who prey off  the 
masses  in  a relentless quest for profit. A  particularly  nasty 
example of this perverted reasoning is the anarchist  publication 
$Class  War$, which, in its February/March 1995  issue  published 
the  following attack on Richard Branson, who had  committed  the 
cardinal sin of transporting a cargo on one of his Virgin Airways 
planes  "free of charge". This is hardly the act of  a  parasitic 
capitalist,  but instead of being applauded, Mr Branson was  lam-
basted  by what was a thinly veiled murder threat: "Three  cheers 
for Mr Branson? More like three swift blows from a baseball  bat. 
He can wear as much body armour as he likes, but this prat's days 
are truly numbered." (48)
  While it is unquestionably true that some capitalists are money 
graspers, this is a personality defect that can be found through-
out  all strata of society. And although he didn't come from  the 
same  humble origins as Al Capone, Richard Branson is still  very 
much a self-made man. (49)
  This  anti-capitalistic  mentality was very much alive  in  the 
1920s  in the wake of the Bolshevik Revolution. There  has  never 
been  any  suggestion that Eliot Ness was a communist  or  fellow 
traveller, but the same hatred of financial success and desire to 
tear  down  successful business enterprises manifests  itself  in 
many people who are employed, ostensibly, as public servants, yet 
who  spend the better parts of their careers harassing  the  more 
productive and industrious members of the community. 
  Ness  claimed in his autobiography that at one time the  Capone 
Syndicate  was  estimated to have had an income  of  nearly  $120 
million. (50) A year, presumably. Although this figure is  almost 
certainly  wildly  exaggerated, his claim that $the mob$  had  20 
breweries churning out 100 barrels of beer a day (51) is probably 
not far wide of the mark.
  No  credit is given by Ness - or by any servant of that  Draco-
nian  instrument of statist repression known as the Federal  Gov-
ernment - for the positive achievements of the Capone  syndicate. 
Here  was  a  man who came from poor immigrant  stock,  from  the 
humblest  of  origins, and who, together with  many  people  from 
similar backgrounds, built a thriving, prosperous business.  (52) 
A  man whose organisation employed people in no less than  twenty 
locations in and around Chicago. If Capone hadn't employed  these 
men  (and  women?) what would they have been doing?  Most  likely 
lounging  around  on street corners or living off the dole  -  or 
whatever  they had in 1920s America. A good many of these  people 
were grateful to this so-called gangster for giving them a  live-
lihood, and enabling them to feed their families. And Mr Capone's 
customers  were  obviously satisfied; let us repeat, no  one  was 
ever forced to attend speakeasies, no one was ever forced to  buy 
and drink Capone's beer. 
  Capone  himself  saw through the hypocrisy and  humbug  of  the 
corrupt  system  which portrayed him and his  kind  as  parasites 
rather  than the service providers they were. He  enunciated  his 
views  with  crystal clear lucidity worthy of a latter  day  John 
Stuart  Mill:  "They call Al Capone a bootlegger",  he  told  one 
author,  "Yes,  it's bootleg while it's on the trucks,  but  when 
your  host at the club, in the locker room, or on the Gold  Coast 
hands  it  to you on a silver tray, it's hospitality.  What's  Al 
Capone  done, then? He's supplied a legitimate demand. Some  call 
it bootlegging. Some call it racketeering. I call it a business." 
(53)  He put it even more succinctly on another occasion when  he 
told  a  woman "They talk about me not being on  the  legitimate. 
Why,  lady, nobody's on the legit., when it comes down to  cases; 
you know that." (54)
  As well as his commitment to the free enterprise system, Capone 
exhibited  a trait which he has seldom been given credit  for,  a 
broader commitment to American ideals and a fierce, if concealed, 
patriotism.  "My rackets are run on strictly American  lines  and 
they're  going to stay that way", he told one author.  (55)  And, 
"Don't get the idea that I'm one of these goddam radicals.  Don't 
get the idea that I'm knocking the American system." (56)
  This was Al Capone, entrepreneur, public servant. We know  what 
he  did; in his own words he provided a service, he was  a  busi-
nessman whose customers in turn provided hospitality. So what was 
Eliot Ness? And what did he do?
  In  his book, Ness boasts that on one raid alone  a  staggering 
$75,000  worth  of plant was seized. (57) On another  raid,  men-
tioned  on  page 94 of his book, Ness boasts that  six  men  were 
arrested  and  that  beer and equipment valued  at  $100,000  was 
destroyed. On page 162 of this 190 page catalogue of destruction, 
the  reader is told that it was difficult to find  breweries  be-
cause  he  and  his gang had closed more than  30  large  plants, 
seized  45  trucks  and destroyed millions of  dollars  worth  of 
equipment.  There  you  have it in his own words.  Ness,  at  the 
behest  of the United States Government, set out to  destroy  the 
livelihoods of ordinary people, and millions of dollars' worth of 
expensive capital equipment.  
  Earlier  I said that Al Capone's so-called rackets gave  people 
(dozens  or perhaps even hundreds of them) a  livelihood,  taking 
them  off the street. In fact, Capone's service to  society  goes 
far beyond that, because many of the people he employed were  the 
type  who then - and today - can find employment $only$  in  this 
sort of activity. It is a truism that once a dog has a bad  name, 
nobody  wants to go near it. Many of the people who  found  their 
way onto Scarface Al's payroll were ex-cons and assorted lowlife, 
[sic]  the sort of people no regular employer would want to  take 
on.  If  these gangsters, petty crooks and no-goods  hadn't  been 
engaged  in the production and distribution of bootleg booze,  it 
is  more than likely that the Devil would have  found  villainous 
work  for  their idle hands, and that they would  have  taken  to 
mugging old ladies, burglary, armed robbery, and worse. It is not 
too much of an exaggeration to say that, rather than contributing 
to the proliferation of crime in 1920s Chicago, Al Capone actual-
ly helped keep the crime rate down.


Capone The Peacemaker: Ness Lets The Cat Out Of The Bag


Although  in  his autobiography, Ness does his  best  to  portray 
Capone  as some sort of machine gun wielding vampire whose  hands 
were  dripping  with blood, we have established already  in  this 
short  study that Scarface Al was never convicted of  murder  and 
that  all  the allegations against him of racketeering  were  and 
remain nothing more than hearsay. There are people who will claim 
that  there  were so many rumours about Capone's  involvement  in 
Organised  Crime, including organised murder, that some  of  them 
must be true, but we must point out again that this simply is not 
the  case.  Let me draw an analogy with Jack the  Ripper.  Whilst 
there is no doubt at all that a number of women were murdered  in 
London's  Whitechapel  in the late 1880s, and little  doubt  that 
some  of  them were murdered by the same person,  who  was  never 
brought to justice, there are more theories about Jack the Ripper 
than most people have had hot dinners. 
  In  reality, most of these $theories$ are simply wild  specula-
tion,  likewise all or most of them are mutually  exclusive,  for 
the Ripper can hardly have been a policeman, a woman, a  gorilla, 
a  member  of the Royal family, the Queen's physician and  a  mad 
Russian doctor simultaneously. (58) By the same token, although a 
number  of  apparently  gang-related murders  were  committed  in 
Chicago  during the Capone era, there is no good  reason  anymore 
than  there  is any good evidence that all or any  of  them  were 
ordered  by  Al Capone. The simple fact is that Al Capone  was  a 
successful businessman, and as we have pointed out already,  such 
success, especially by a man of no great education who had  risen 
from  relative poverty, generates envy, contempt, bitterness  and 
hatred  for its own sake. Probably 99% of the  unpleasant  things 
that have been written about Capone over the years had absolutely 
no  basis  in fact. And, it should never be  forgotten,  most  of 
these  unpleasant things were written by men like Eliot Ness,  or 
inspired by him and his ilk.
  Ness himself has done an excellent hatchet job on Capone, until 
one does some basic textual analysis and compares his wild asser-
tions  with the documented facts, but even as he is slagging  off 
this so-called gangster, he inadvertently lets the cat out of the 
bag, for, rather than being any sort of mass murderer, Al  Capone 
is revealed as a peace-loving man who actually $saved$ lives.  As 
always,  the proof of the pudding is in the eating: here is  what 
Ness says when he lets his guard down. 
  Capone  ruled Chicago "with an iron fist in a glove of  steel", 
(59)  but,  "Rarely did hate actuate him; when it  did,  however, 
those  who  had incurred his wrath were marked for  death."  (60) 
Rarely? This is a man who earlier, according to Ness, had ordered 
or  been responsible for some three hundred murders by  1929.  As 
Capone became a junior partner in so-called organised crime  only 
in  1920, (when Johnny Torrio succeeded 'Diamond Jim'  Colosimo), 
that  works out to three hundred murders in nine years, which  is 
about  thirty-three  a  year, ie more than one  a  fortnight.  In 
practice though, Capone wouldn't have been in a position to order 
murders until he became kingpin five years later, so allowing for 
him  having  killed a few people before - and where is  the  evi-
dence?  - we are looking at a man who, by Ness's earlier  reckon-
ing, must have been having people dispatched every few days. 
  Okay, what have we got so far? A man who was rarely angry,  yet 
ordered  people killed as frequently as most people change  their 
underwear.  Next, Ness tells his readers that when Capone was  in 
gaol  on  the bum firearm rap, the murder rate rose:  "There  had 
been  frequent gang murders in the few months preceding  Scarface 
Al's  return.  A serious breach was threatening  to  disrupt  the 
peace  treaty  Capone had negotiated at Atlantic City."  (61)  In 
other words, rather than ordering gang murders, Capone had  waged 
a  tireless battle against them and had even succeeded in  enfor-
cing a peace treaty. The reason he did this is not far to seek. 
  His  main  aim in life was to keep things running  smoothly  so 
that  his customers had a constant supply of liquor and  so  that 
the  profits  kept running in to his organisation.  Even  a  city 
which  was  as corrupt as Chicago allegedly was  would  not  have 
tolerated gang murders on such a scale, something would have been 
done.  And as Capone had been a big wheel from 1925, there is  no 
doubt that his activities would have been monitored closely since 
then.  As indeed they were. Yet in the end the only  things  they 
ever  got  him for were a firearm misdemeanour - for  which  they 
threw the book at him - and income tax evasion. As Capone himself 
said, "They finally got me for spitting on the sidewalk." (62)



Capone The Kind And Generous Man


Ness  and his ilk would have us believe that Al Capone  got  away 
with  his  crimes [sic] for so long not only because  of  endemic 
corruption but because he was feared by the people of Chicago. It 
may be that Capone was feared, certainly by the competition,  but 
it  is  far more likely that he was loved, for again,  by  Ness's 
admission,  he was generous to a tee. Ness says of  Capone  that, 
although  he was ruthless, he had "the quality of a  great  busi-
nessman" who exhibited "sound judgment, diplomatic shrewdness and 
the diamond-hard nerves of a gambler, all balanced by cold common 
sense."  (63) Capone was certainly an accomplished diplomat,  and 
like all diplomats he realised that persuasion was always prefer-
able to compulsion, although he was realistic enough to see  that 
in  a hard world, hard decisions have to be made, and that  while 
persuasion pays dividends, some people respect only force. He put 
this philosophy in a nutshell with "You can get much further with 
a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." (64)
  Though  Capone lived in a hard world, Ness, who graduated  from 
the  University  of Chicago, either didn't understand  or  didn't 
want  to  understand  the harsh realities  faced  by  street-wise 
businessmen  who  graduated from the school of hard  knocks.  He, 
after  all,  was  working for the  Federal  Government.  Whatever 
results he turned in, even if he didn't make a single arrest,  he 
was  still paid because his salary was underwritten by the  taxes 
of  the  people. But businessmen have to turn a profit  or  their 
enterprises go down the tubes. Of course Capone was ruthless, but 
who benefits from such ruthlessness and the resultant  cut-throat 
competition? The customer, of course! 
  And  Capone was certainly loved, or if he wasn't, he  was  most 
highly respected, for as Ness himself says "Capone never  carried 
less than $50,000 in cash, scattering $25 tips to hat check girls 
and  $100  gratuities  to waiters." (65) The  reader  should  ask 
himself if these are the acts of a hoodlum, of the kind of  scum-
bag  Ness  would have us believe Capone was. The simple  fact  is 
that  Capone,  as  stated, came from humble  origins,  and  never 
forgot it. What sort of man gives a waiter a hundred dollar  tip? 
(66)  How about a kind one? Capone was not just from  poor  immi-
grant stock, he was of Italian origin. It is likely that many  of 
his  family  and friends worked in and around  the  catering  and 
restaurant  trades,  a traditional stronghold  of  Italian  immi-
grants. Every time he saw a waiter he probably thought "There but 
for the grace of God go I". (67)
  Capone's legendary generosity even went so far as to offer Ness 
a  retainer, an offer the latter would have us believe  he  found 
insulting in the extreme. When a Capone foot soldier turned up at 
Ness's office with $2,000 in cash and promised him the same every 
week  "if you'll take it easy", Ness reacted angrily,  and,  like 
the  inveterate publicity seeker he was, went out of his  way  to 
prove  his incorruptibility. (68) At least, that's what he  tells 
us.  No  one  was arrested for this attempt to  bribe  a  Federal 
officer,  so it is quite possible or even likely that  Ness  made 
the  incident  up as part of his general campaign of  smears  and 
disinformation. Assuming it was true though, what was so terrible 
about an offer of two thousand dollars a week to "take it easy" ? 
  If  Ness had taken this money, he would have benefited,  Capone 
would have benefited, and, ultimately, the City of Chicago  would 
have saved money. Think again of all the people needlessly thrown 
out  of  work by the campaign of wanton  destruction  of  private 
enterprise engaged in by Ness and his cronies. Think again too of 
the  sort of people Capone was employing. How many of them,  laid 
off when their breweries were shut down and their jobs were axed, 
moved  effortlessly from the $underworld$ of Al Capone's  victim-
less  crimes  of selling liquor to willing buyers into  the  real 
underworld?  How  many old ladies were  mugged,  people  burgled, 
banks robbed, because these otherwise unemployable wretches  were 
denied the opportunity to earn an honest dollar by the caprice of 
a  bigoted  government and the simulated outrage of  one  of  its 
strong arm men?
  Ness  even had the nerve to try to kid his readers that it  was 
this  rejection  of Capone's largesse that earned  his  team  the 
label  the Untouchables. This is nonsense, as he knew full  well, 
for  a  man of his university education could  hardly  have  been 
unaware  of the natural meaning of this term. In  India,  certain 
classes of persons are referred to as Untouchables. The $Harijan$ 
include  those  in  certain occupations, such  as  those  killing 
cattle or disposing of dead cattle, and other "polluting  activi-
ties".  (69) The word Untouchable applied to Ness & co  was  then 
not a term of reverence but an insult, an epithet from the Indian 
sub-continent.  Ness and his team of $Untouchables$ were seen  by 
the  Chicago public not as purifiers of a corrupt system, but  as 
polluters, unwanted interlopers who had been ordered by a  menda-
cious, autocratic Federal Government to destroy the livelihood of 
one of the community's most respected figures, and, more  import-
antly from their point of view, to prevent them from enjoying the 
comforts of $the good creature of God$, just because some  little 
fart of a politician with the backing of Twentieth Century  Puri-
tans and killjoys had forced an act through Congress denying  the 
people their inalienable right to drink alcohol.


Persecuted,  Harassed, Slandered, Yet Even In Prison, Capone  Put 
Others First


Socialists are forever telling us that we should work for others, 
this  is  something called altruism. It's okay to  be  altruistic 
with other people's money, in particular the taxpayers', but when 
it comes to digging into their own pockets, that's when they  are 
found out. Capone though, always believed he had a duty to socie-
ty,  to put something back. The reader will recall that in  1929, 
Capone was gaoled on a bum firearm rap. The magistrate who  heard 
this  case said he would like to "[rid] the United States of  you 
for ever." (70)
  Surely  this  magistrate would have bit his tongue  if  he  had 
learned what Capone did while serving his sentence. While he  was 
in  prison,  he overheard some doctors discussing the case  of  a 
young  criminal  in the hospital who been shot  in  an  attempted 
hold-up;  they were going to amputate his arm. Capone said  "Save 
the  boy's arm. If it takes money, I'll be glad to pay  for  it." 
(71) This was a young punk Capone didn't know from Adam, yet  for 
him  such an act of extraordinary generosity and  compassion  was 
$de  rigueur$.  Incredibly though, there were those,  beside  the 
obviously envious and totally worthless Eliot Ness, who interpre-
ted  such  acts as further evidence of Capone's  supposedly  evil 
nature.


He Was Kind Therefore He Was Evil


Capone biographer Kenneth Allsop wrote that "His individual  acts 
of  charity,  from a fifty dollar loan to an outright gift  to  a 
destitute  Italian family, were many. He paid the hospital  bills 
of  a woman bystander wounded in a street gun-battle. It  is  not 
altogether  astonishing  that today there  are  many  respectable 
citizens in Chicago who speak glowingly of Capone's  philanthropy 
and  particularly point out that in the early Depression days  it 
was the Capone gang who set up the first soup-kitchens and block-
restaurants  for  the distribution of free food  on  Thanksgiving 
Day."  (72)  On one occasion, Capone sent $1,200 to  a  deserving 
Philadelphia orphanage. (73) Yet while Allsop writes that  Capone 
was  revealed in November 1930 as the mysterious  benefactor  who 
had  set up a huge soup-kitchen, he implies that his  motives  in 
doing  this were purely selfish, ie that he set it up  purely  so 
that the identity of the benefactor could be leaked to the media, 
in order to show himself in a favourable light. (74)


Other Persecutions And Anti-Capone Hysteria


As  we have demonstrated, Capone was hounded not simply by  Eliot 
Ness  but at times by what seemed like the entire  establishment. 
He was actually arrested many times, including for vagrancy! (75) 
On top of all that, the wildest rumours and nonsense were  spread 
about  him. It was said that Capone was taking a cut of the  tak-
ings  of slot machines in Copenhagen because they had  been  man-
ufactured in Chicago. (76) A book on Capone was banned by librar-
ies in London; (77) a man who wrote a book called $Carrying a Gun 
for Al Capone$ admitted later not only that he had never done any 
such thing but that he had never even been to Chicago! (78)  Some 
of this nonsense may have been inspired by media  sensationalism, 
or,  as most likely, in the case of the  fictitious  gun-carrying 
hood,  a  Walter Mitty personality, but the  astute  reader  will 
detect  here  the  hidden hand of Capone's  declared  enemies  in 
officialdom, who, as always, were backed up by the full  coercive 
power of the state. (79)

-- 
Alexander Baron

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Capone Inspired Loyalty From Beyond The Grave


Further  evidence  of  the true nature of  Scarface  Al  surfaced 
thirty-three  years after his death. In August 1980, the  British 
weekly  $Titbits$ published the story of a woman who  claimed  to 
have been his lover, Amelia D'Argenio. (80) She was a young widow 
when she met Capone and he asked her out, and they quickly became 
lovers.  (81) Capone gave her an allowance which was the  equiva-
lent  of L150 a week, and said that he would have given her  any-
thing  in his power, and lavished fur coats, jewellery and  money 
on her. Curiously though she said "I never saw Al with a pistol", 
(82) which raises the possibility that Capone may even have  been 
fitted up outright for the firearm misdemeanour. (83)
  Capone's  former lover continued "Of course his 'boys'  carried 
guns - even machine guns - but only to protect their  interests." 
And  why shouldn't they have? Even Capone's  hostile  biographers 
don't  deny  that he was frequently targeted  for  assassination. 
(84)  Surely  this is a clear case of  defending  one's  property 
rights  and  even more importantly, one's life, by the  right  to 
bear  arms, which is enshrined in the US Constitution.  D'Argenio 
even says that "When he ordered a speakeasy to be blown up it was 
always  at night when nobody who was innocent would  be  killed." 
(85) This sounds like hearsay, again we must stress that there is 
no proof that Al Capone ever engaged in such criminal activity as 
bombing  rivals  or, as suggested here, against  people  who  had 
ripped  him off. But even if he did authorise strong arm  tactics 
occasionally  we have been given a bona fide reason for it  here. 
Because of the Draconian (and stupid) Prohibition law, people  in 
Capone's line of work who were ripped off had either to turn  the 
other cheek or exact summary justice. Bootleggers who turned  the 
other cheek wouldn't have stayed in business long. Here though is 
prima facie evidence that although Capone may have been a bit  of 
a  rough  diamond, he lived by his own moral code, and  that  the 
summary  justice he dispensed was neither excessive nor  adminis-
tered with either malice or recklessness.
  Capone was in fact in many ways a regular guy: "Al would  leave 
for the office every morning in his armoured car and come home at 
night in the same car". And his patriotism, which we have already 
alluded to, was evinced by the huge picture of George  Washington 
and  the Stars and Stripes he kept on his office wall. "He  loved 
America." (86)


A Sick Attempt To Impugn Capone's Patriotism


We  should  mention here an attempt to portray Capone  in  a  bad 
light which, although not as sick as portraying this great Ameri-
can  entrepreneur  as a mass murderer and crook,  is  pretty  low 
nevertheless.  In  $The Bootleggers$, Kenneth  Allsop  says  that 
Capone was not only fond of lying - including about his age - but 
that  he  was born in Italy, not America, as he  claimed.  Allsop 
says  that Capone was born January 6, 1895 at Castel  Amara  near 
Rome to his shopkeeper father Gabrielle and mother Theresa.  (87) 
The implication is of course that because Capone was not born  in 
America  he couldn't have been a $good American$. This  is  utter 
nonsense  because  America  was founded by  Europeans,  and  many 
contemporary  Americans  -  former President  Ronald  Reagan  for 
example  -  are intensely proud of their European (in  his  case, 
Irish)  heritage. But that doesn't for one moment mean that  they 
are not good Americans.
  In  any  case, this charge against Capone is  blatantly  false. 
Another  Capone biographer, John Kobler, reports that Capone  was 
indeed  born  in the United States, in Brooklyn, on  January  17, 
1899. (16) And, far from reducing his age, Capone actually  added 
a  year  to his official age. The reason for this  was  that  the 
fully assimilated all-American son of Italian immigrants  married 
an  Irish-American  (Mae  Coughlin), on December  18,  1918.  His 
bride-to-be  was  actually two years older  than  him,  something 
which  appears  to have embarrassed Capone, so  on  the  marriage 
certificate,  she lowered her age by one year, and  he  increased 
his  by  one. (88) [This is the sort of white  lie  anyone  would 
tell.] In any case, Capone's parents arrived in the United States 
in 1893, two years before - according to Allsop - Capone  himself 
was  born.  (89) Let us return now to the lies  and  innuendo  of 
Eliot Ness. 


A Strange Incident


As  most  people  know, Al Capone was finally  convicted  of  and 
gaoled for income tax evasion, but prior to his indictment a most 
curious  incident is reported by Ness. Following the murder of  a 
police  reporter who was said to have been on the take, a gun  in 
Ness's files disappeared. This gun was proved by forensic testing 
to  have  been one of the same batch as the weapon  used  in  the 
reporter's  murder,  and was thought initially to have  been  the 
same gun. Ness's reaction to the disappearance of the gun in  his 
files is strange indeed. He says: "The Capone gang - for it could 
be no other - had started to show its hand. They had entered  our 
offices, probably in the dead of night, and searched for evidence 
that  could  be destroyed." (90) Yeah, sure  Eliot,  but  Occam's 
Razor  gives us a far more plausible explanation. To begin  with, 
if the Capone $gang$ had been responsible, surely they would have 
destroyed  a  great deal more evidence, perhaps they'd  even  had 
bombed or torched the office. 
  Secondly,  the  obvious solution is that someone  with  regular 
access  to  the office - perhaps even Ness himself  -  made  this 
weapon  disappear. I wouldn't like to speculate as to the  reason 
Ness  or  one of his underlings would wish to  make  a  potential 
murder  weapon disappear, but even the dumbest of observers  must 
surely conclude that it is odd Ness should have blamed Capone for 
this  particular piece of legerdemain. Perhaps  the  Untouchables 
weren't quite so untouchable after all?


Trial And Conviction


Although Ness and his team did some impressive work in  gathering 
evidence against Capone (in a purely technical sense), it was the 
Revenue  agents who did the real damage. Capone  and  sixty-eight 
members of his syndicate were eventually indicted by a Grand Jury 
under the $Volstead Act$. This was based on evidence assembled by 
Ness  and  his  agents, but the tax case  took  precedence.  (91) 
Capone himself faced three indictments and a possible 34 years in 
gaol. (92)
  In  1989, Britain's leading Libertarian Chris Tame, (93)  wrote 
that  if a thug were to accost you in the street and demand  your 
wallet, you wouldn't hesitate to call his actions theft. (94) The 
$crime$ Al Capone was charged with was refusing to part with  his 
hard-earned  money,  not  to a street thug, but to  agents  of  a 
repressive  regime  of new, unhappy Puritans who  treated  people 
like  common criminals for doing what people of almost  all  cul-
tures have done since time immemorial, drinking alcohol. 
  It seems incredible that a law-abiding citizen whose only  real 
crime was a technical infringement of a firearms law, who created 
a vast business empire, who gave hundreds of people a livelihood, 
who  serviced  willing imbibers from all walks of  society,  who, 
even  by  his  avowed enemy's admission,  brought  peace  to  the 
streets  of Chicago, and undoubtedly saved lives, that a man  who 
did all this, should be treated like a common criminal and threa-
tened  with over thirty years in gaol because he decided he  knew 
better what to do with his money than the state. (95)
  In  spite of Capone's business acumen, he was naive  about  the 
law.  At  one point he objected "They can't collect  legal  taxes 
from illegal money." (96) Unfortunately for him this wasn't true. 
In  1921 a small time Carolina bootlegger named  Manley  Sullivan 
was  charged  with income tax evasion. He  didn't  challenge  the 
bootlegging  allegation but argued a point of law, that the  gov-
ernment was not allowed to tax illegal income. The case went  all 
the way to the Supreme Court. He lost. (97)
  Capone  was found guilty on counts 1, 5, 9, 13 and 18.  He  was 
also  given  6 months for contempt of court, was sentenced  to  a 
total  of  eleven years in gaol, fined a total  of  $50,000,  and 
ordered  to  pay $30,000 costs. As he left the courtroom  he  was 
served with an order to freeze his assets by a Revenue  official. 
(98)


The End Of Prohibition


Al  Capone  was  gaoled in October 1931 and served  most  of  his 
sentence  in  Alcatraz. In 1933, Prohibition was  ended  because, 
according  to  the $Encyclopedia Americana$, "the  nation's  most 
influential  people, as well as the general public,  acknowledged 
that it had failed. It had increased lawlessness and drinking and 
aggravated alcohol abuse." (99) Capone himself had gone on record 
as stating that "Prohibition has made nothing but trouble". (100) 
Indeed,  this  must have been apparent from almost  the  day  the 
$Volstead  Act$ was passed. In 1929, the U.S. assistant  attorney 
general in charge of liquor law prosecutions, a woman named Mabel 
Walker Willebrandt, resigned and became an attorney for the  wine 
industry.  (101) However, the real reason the great  $social  ex-
periment$  of Prohibition $failed$, had nothing whatsoever to  do 
with concern for increasing lawlessness, aggravated alcohol abuse 
or  anything  of the kind, Prohibition was  scrapped  for  purely 
commercial reasons, as we will see shortly.


Capone And Ness: Their Later Careers


Capone's last day in Alcatraz was January 6, 1939. His biographer 
John Kobler wrote that "For the misdemeanor of failing to file  a 
tax  return, he owed another year, reducible by good behavior  to 
about  ten months." (102) Again that phrase good behaviour  rears 
its head, somehow it is so out of character with the media  image 
of Capone which Ness and his sycophants and their spiritual heirs 
have built in the nearly five decades since Scarface Al's  death. 
On  his release, Capone lived quietly until his premature  death, 
not just a sick man but a broken one. 
  We  have demonstrated here I think that the myth of  Al  Capone 
mass  murderer and super-gangster was just that, a myth.  Another 
myth,  almost  as  big, is the myth that  Capone  was  fabulously 
wealthy.  Ness  claimed  that at one time Capone  was  worth  $50 
million.  (103) The $Encyclopedia Americana$ - which,  having  no 
axe  to grind, one would expect to be more reliable  -  estimated 
his  wealth  at his peak in 1927 at a  staggering  $100  million. 
(104)  Capone's last lawyer painted a different picture. To  wit, 
his client "never owned the sources of his once vast wealth."  He 
shared  with partners and the organisation. He was well  provided 
for but his property was heavily mortgaged and he had to pay  off 
back  taxes. (105) Ness's claim that Capone never carried  around 
less  than  $50,000 in cash (106) is obviously  nonsense  of  the 
first  order, but Capone's extraordinary personal generosity  and 
kindness were undoubtedly for real. He died January 25, 1947.
  Although Capone retired from public life with his gaoling, Ness 
did  not. The Untouchables were disbanded, but Ness  remained  in 
government service, and during World War Two he served as  Direc-
tor of Social Protection for the Federal Security Agency and  was 
given  the  appropriate task for an accomplished  brown-noser  of 
"combating venereal disease in and near every military establish-
ment  in the United States". (107) How he undertook this  awesome 
task the mind boggles, but the scatological, bird-brained nincom-
poops  who run the United States Government were  obviously  more 
than satisfied with his work, and he was awarded a medal for  it. 
He died of a heart attack on May 16, 1957. (108)


The Making Of Two Myths: TV Lends A Hand


The  Untouchables  were immortalised by an eponymous  TV  series, 
with  the  actor Robert Stack playing the title role.  There  was 
also  a  much more recent film with Kevin Costner  playing  Ness. 
Neither  Stack  nor Costner could be said to portray  Ness  as  a 
debonair sort, but Capone, where he appears in any dramatisation, 
is  portrayed as an overweight, unsightly thug, the  exact  alter 
ego  of the incorruptible Ness. Ness, let it never be  forgotten, 
was  a  man who, by his own admission, enforced a law  he  didn't 
really  believe in, who tapped people's telephones and  spied  on 
them  in numerous other ways, a man who took pride in  destroying 
wealth-creating private enterprise at the behest of a  megalithic 
Federal  Government which owed its very existence to the  efforts 
of  entrepreneurs like Al Capone. And, to cap it all,  this  same 
$gang-buster$,  this $Untouchable$, spent the Second  World  War, 
not in a military uniform, not even as a Federal agent, but as  a 
government  snoop inspecting toilets, lecturing soldiers  on  the 
evils  of promiscuity, or whatever it is that people  who  combat 
venereal disease are obliged to do to earn their sinecures.


Why Prohibition Was Really Repealed


The  $Encyclopedia  Americana's$ claim that Prohibition  was  re-
pealed because "the nation's most influential people, as well  as 
the  general  public, acknowledged that it had failed" is  a  lie 
that has been manufactured from the whole cloth. Many other  laws 
have $failed$, proved unworkable or counter-productive, but  that 
hasn't  prevented  them either from remaining in force  or  being 
strengthened.  The real reason for Prohibition's repeal has  less 
to  do  with either morality or concern for the  welfare  of  the 
people than with plain, old-fashioned economics. The reader  will 
recall  the signs hung outside the London gin shops  guaranteeing 
to  make their customers "drunk for one penny and dead drunk  for 
two  pence". Another common vice - besides drunkenness -  is  the 
demon  weed. During Prohibition, cigarettes retailed  for  around 
one  penny each! (109) Today, ie 1995, you won't get a bottle  of 
whisky for much less than fifteen quid, while fags will cost  you 
around two pounds fifty for twenty. (110)
  Granted that the prices of virtually all commodities will  have 
risen in actual if not real terms since the 18th Century or  even 
since the 1920s, (111) this still leaves a veritable crevasse  to 
fill.  And that crevasse has been filled almost entirely  by  one 
thing: tax.
  The  British daily newspaper $Today$ reported in  its  December 
10, 1994 issue the following price breakdown for booze, fags  and 
petrol:


In  each case the first price is the retail price, the second  is 
the  combined tax (duty, sales tax, VAT). The price is given  for 
20 Marlboro brand cigarettes and one litre of petrol; prices have 
been rounded to the nearest penny.

                    UK           Germany               Australia


Scotch           L12.00            L9.50                  L14.21     
                  L6.18            L3.50                   L6.11

Wine              L2.75               84p                  L1.10
(bottle)          L1.05                6p                     97p

Beer                 99p              40p                     60p     
                     22p               4p                     36p 

Cigs              L2.70            L1.90                   L2.54  
                  L1.15            L1.20                      89p

Petrol               60p              66p                     36p
(leaded)             36p              48p                      3p

Petrol               53p              60p                     35p
(unleaded)           31p              40p                      3p


It will be seen from the above table that prices vary considerab-
ly  -  as one would expect - from country to country, as  do  the 
duties on the various products. In Germany, the duty on  unleaded 
petrol makes up a staggering two thirds of its price at the pumps 
while  in Australia it is less than (less than!) 10%.  (112)  The 
reason  for the low [sic] duty on petrol in Australia is  clearly 
because  of  the  size of the country. Like  the  United  States, 
people often have to travel vast distances in the course of their 
work  or daily lives. On the other hand, although Australia is  a 
wine  producing country, the tax on a bottle of wine makes  up  a 
staggering  88+% of the cost price! Clearly this tax  is  totally 
unnecessary except for the purposes of a) regulating the  average 
Aussie's lifestyle, (113) and b) ripping off the consumer for the 
express  purpose of funding an inflated and  totally  unnecessary 
bureaucracy.
  Here then is why the so-called great experiment of  Prohibition 
failed,  the social policy makers decided that it would  be  much 
more  worthwhile  to legalise booze in order  to  facilitate  yet 
another  gigantic rip-off of the already oppressed  public.  This 
was the reason, the only reason, the American Government admitted 
its mistake and repealed the Prohibition law. And it may  eventu-
ally  be the same reason which leads to the repeal of that  other 
and even more outrageous form of Prohibition, the war on drugs. A 
short  survey  of  this will conclude the  current  study,  first 
though,  let us take a brief look at another, and far  less  well 
known  aspect  of Prohibition, that of the oppression  of  ethnic 
minorities.


An Unexplored Facet Of The Campaign Against Al Capone


We come now to an aspect of the government sponsored campaign  to 
destroy  Al  Capone  which has been written out  of  the  history 
books.  Capone's cardinal sin was that he gave people  what  they 
wanted  and  was spectacularly successful into the  bargain.  His 
other sin is that although he was white, he was Latin rather than 
Anglo-Saxon. This $ethnic bias$ - to put it euphemistically - was 
something  that  was very prevalent then and is still  so  today, 
though now it manifests itself primarily in the war on drugs, but 
also to some extent in the campaign against that other taboo free 
market, prostitution.
  Capone  was of course far from the only American $gangster$  of 
Latin heritage in the 1920s, and Latins were not the only  minor-
ity involved in servicing a thirsty public, the bootleg  industry 
was  also  heavily  Jewish. The Jewish  $gangster$  Meyer  Lansky 
(1902-83)  was  one of many others besides Capone et al  who  was 
harassed  not  only  on account of his services  to  free  market 
capitalism  but also because of his birth. Under the Law  of  Re-
turn,  any Jew born anywhere in the world has the right  to  emi-
grate  to  Israel; Lansky was refused entry to the  country,  un-
questionably  under pressure from the United  States  Government. 
"When  you're a Jew," he said, "the whole world's  against  you." 
(114)
  Lansky  should have said "When you're not Anglo-Saxon", for  it 
wasn't  just  the Jews and the Italians, indeed  nowadays  it  is 
hardly  them  at all - as most of them have moved up  the  social 
ladder  into $legitimate$ businesses. Nowadays it is,  primarily, 
if you're black, you'll find the authorities jumping on you  from 
a great height when you try to make an honest dollar by providing 
a  service which the United States Government in its  wisdom  has 
decided  that its citizens are to be denied the pleasure of.  The 
majority of drug dealers in most American inner cities are black, 
and a great many of those working the streets as whores and pimps 
are  black. Whatever one may think of whores or the men who  live 
off them, there is no element of compulsion in any such  transac-
tion.  No $john$ has to seek out the services of a hooker.  (115) 
Leaving  aside  the Puritan mentality of many of the  people  re-
sponsible  for  drafting social policy in the United  States,  in 
view of the experience of Capone and that enlightening protest of 
Lansky,  the continued outlawing of a substantial sector  of  the 
free  market under the pretext of saving people  from  themselves 
(116)  is  nothing  less than part of the - for  the  most  part, 
invisible  - class structure of the United States. And  one  that 
ensures  that  if  your face doesn't fit,  particularly  if  it's 
black, you stay right at the bottom.


The  Evil Legacy Of Eliot Ness: The War On Drugs And The  End  Of 
The Rule Of Law


One pundit has written of Al Capone that he was "the creation and 
the  victim of his times". (117) This is indeed true. It is  also 
true that the current generation is the victim of Capone's times, 
because  while  their good dies with them, the evil that  men  do 
lives  after them, and few men did more evil than Eliot Ness  and 
the other servants of the corrupt system of statist repression he 
and they helped to create and maintain. Although Eliot Ness  died 
in 1957, his evil legacy is all around in the United States,  and 
manifests  itself  in the Draconian legislation  which  has  been 
ushered through Congress by the tactic of frightening and wilful-
ly deceiving the public in the phony war on drugs.
  The  drug  menace is so terrible, so all-encompassing,  such  a 
threat to the survival of civilisation, we are told, that it must 
be stamped out by any means necessary. The simple fact though  is 
that any man, woman or child can walk into their local supermark-
et and buy poison, be it boot polish or Vitamin D. (118) The idea 
that  such  commonplace commodities should be  regulated  because 
they  can be dangerous if misused has never quite caught  on.  It 
could  be that recreational drugs have been singled out  for  the 
simple  reason that they are recreational, as is  alcohol.  What-
ever,  the  Draconian laws that have been foisted upon  the  good 
citizens of America - and other countries - in order, ostensibly, 
to  combat  the non-existent drug menace, are now  being  quietly 
extended to other areas.
  The  April 1995 issue of the British Libertarian journal  $Free 
Life$  reported  the following horror story, one  such  as  could 
never have happened in Nazi Germany or even in Soviet Russia.  In 
1992, a woman in Iowa who was accused of shoplifting a $25  swea-
ter had her $18,000 automobile - which had been specially  equip-
ped for her handicapped daughter - seized as a getaway car! (119) 
This was made possible by civil asset forfeiture legislation,  in 
particular  the $Comprehensive Forfeiture Act 1984$.
  Civil asset forfeiture legislation was designed to inhibit  so-
called racketeering, which in Ness's day was centred on booze but 
is today centred on drugs. One 1992 report claimed that an  esti-
mated  $85 billion of illegal drug money a year was  being  laun-
dered through banks in the United States and Europe. (120)  While 
a  certain  amount of illegal drug money - perhaps even  a  great 
deal  - is without doubt $laundered$ through the  banking  system 
and  legitimate businesses, it is most unlikely that this  figure 
has any basis in fact, or if the true figure can even be  reason-
ably estimated. (121)
  Such legislation as civil asset forfeiture is nothing less than 
a direct and wilful usurpation of the rule of law, and has conse-
quences  for  every citizen which make it possible - and  in  the 
near  future  probable - that anytime he (or she)  steps  out  of 
line, he will be jumped on from a great height by the powers that 
be.  Imagine  the following scenario. You are  a  publisher;  you 
publish a book or magazine which is highly critical of a  govern-
ment  agency, or exposes police corruption. After an  $anonymous$ 
tip off the police raid your premises and find (or plant)  traces 
of  cocaine on a dollar bill in your safe. (122) They  confiscate 
your  business, your bank account, the lot. (123)  Theoretically, 
this course of action could be used against the wealthiest men in 
the country as a catch-all device to confiscate all their assets. 
So, if your name is Bill Gates and a police officer performing  a 
$random$  search  at a road block happens to $find$ a  spliff  in 
your car, you can kiss goodbye to Microsoft.
  Anti-drug hysteria has also led to a law which makes it  manda-
tory  to record all cash transactions over $10,000. Such  regula-
tion and people control must lead not only inevitably to  tyranny 
but to the strangulation of the economy. It is this which is  the 
true legacy of Eliot Ness, and frankly, the society which  turned 
him and his kind into heroes, deserves everything it gets. 


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article <478vn3$l44@amhux3.amherst.edu>
           jaklein@unix.amherst.edu "Josh Klein" writes:
 
> Can't have what bpth ways, Mr. Baron?  Does the fact that Jewish guerillas
> were resisting Nazi invasions of their home countries excuse the
> brutal murder of civilians?  (

I don't see any justification for war, but that's another matter.


> I seem to remember your posting some criticism of Irving that was
> mainly preoccupied with your suspicions of his homosexuality.
> Of course, this speical obsession of yours only makes you seem
> even more repulsive to the vast majority of this newsgroup's
> readers.

Suspicion? I sent you the wrong book, Josh!

> Churchill was a man of some honor, Mr. Baron.  

You really have been brainwashed if you believe that. By the way, did you 
realise that Churchill advocated eugenics? And that he wanted to bomb Germany
with anthrax?

-- 
Alexander Baron

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In article <47e8m0$luu@dns.enter.net> yawen@enter.net "Yale F. Edeiken" writes:

You have claimed that someone said "Al Baron is an 
> anti-Semite because he called David Irving a liar." or words to that effect. I
>  say 
> it's a lie.  Prove me wrong, Lyin' Al.

Why don't you ring up the editor of Searchlight? Or the editor of the Jewish
Chronicle? I think if you do you'll find the cat has got their tongues.
 

-- 
Alexander Baron

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In article <47fvah$u3a@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>
           gmcfee@ibm.net "Gord McFee" writes:

 
> Mr. Baron testifies to his virulent anti-Semitism every time he opens his 
> mouth.

You people take yourselves so seriously I'm astounded. You really don't 
appreciate what utter schmucks you are.


-- 
Alexander Baron

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           jmorris@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca "John Morris" writes:

> What makes you think that I am that interested enough to pay for the
> warped opinions and unintelligent, dishonest misreadings of a little
> man like you? 

Okay, you're not interested. So don't ask me anymore questions.


-- 
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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           hostrov@uniserve.com "Hilary Ostrov" writes:

> But I didn't know this (or utter it) until 1995.  Go ahead, Mr. Baron,
> make my day ... call me a liar, too. 

For the Nth time I had no idea the Mueller Report was a fabrication, AND AS
SOON AS  THE FORGERY WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION I DISOWNED IT.

You people on the other hand are so far gone that you will do anything but 
admit that a Jew - Kitty Hart - has told a pack of absurd lies. I was taken in
by a credible forgery. Your deception is self-deception


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In article 
           cendbj@bonaly.hw.ac.uk "David Johnston" writes:
 
> Does this not strike you as a little odd? If he is a "committed Libertarian", 
> why does he support the "screwing" of money out of people who stock (not even 
> publish) a "certain" magazine? Why do you, for that matter? Are you only a 
> libertarian providing nobody disagrees with you? Or just a hypocrite?

No, but unlike you I know what free speech means. If someone were to denouce
you to the police for murdering your wife and burying her in the back garden
you wouldn't be surprised if the police charged him with wasting police time.
There is such a thing as property right in one's reputation. Also, when one
is assaulted as a result of other people's malice that too goes beyond free
speech.

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Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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It had to happen, the newspaper that wails and whines about conspiracies
more than any other has finally gone full circle. The latest Jewish Chronicle
contains an in-depth interview with one of the fakers of the MJ-12 saucer
crash documents. I suppose I should have realised that with a name like
Stanton Friedman this former nuclear physicist was Jewish. What will they
endorse next, the Protocols of Zion?

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Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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Two Israeli businessmen have just been arrested in Turkey where they face
heavy gaol sentences for the "crime" of smuggling heroin, according to the latest
Jewish Chronicle.

According to Harry Mazal, such men are evil poisoners of our children. Baron
on the other and recognises them for what they are: latter day Al Capones
bridging the gap between willing sellers and buyers.

It remains to be seen which of us, Baron or Mazal is truly an anti-Semite.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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So-called anti-racists in France have dropped a legal action against the 
publishers of an "offensive bible" which refers to Jews as God killers.

Who'd want to bring an action for defamation to exonerate one's ancestors
for the alleged crime of murdering a schizophrenic in Palestine 2,000 years ago?
Assuming he existed, that is?

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Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article <814875750snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>
           A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk "Alexander Baron" writes:

> In article <199510271456.PAA20870@utopia.hacktic.nl>
>            byersl@ucsu.colorado.edu "Western" writes:
>  
> > >Mr. Farrakahan,
> > 
> > >My name is Rufus Washington.  I am a 25 year old oppressed black man.
> > >I dropped out of school at 14  to pursue a career in dealing drugs,
> > >and I have been in and out of jail ever since. 
> 
> You are oppressed, Mr Washington. Specifically you are oppressed by a system
> that turns you into an outlaw by criminalising your legitimate business of
> providing willing buyers - black and white - with a narcotic substance for 
> recreational use. The very same system criminalised Al Capone 70 years ago
> for providing a similar public service. It is not racism but mass hysteria
> and collective psychosis. What you should do is lobby for the legalisation 
> of crack, cocaine and heroin.


Much as I hate to follow up on my own message, I don't recall posting this in
alt.smokers and wonder if anybody can tell me how it got here.

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Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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From: Alexander Baron 
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In article  t08o@unb.ca "MORRISON  KEITH MURRAY" writes:

> In article <815270533snz@abaron.demon.co.uk> Alexander Baron
>   writes:
> 
> >I believe I had some correspondence with Jamie about this awhile ago. There
> >were quite a few confessions, Rabbi Jossel confessed for one. Bear in mind
> >that I do not believe Jews ever practiced ritual murder, what I am saying is
> >that there is confession and other evidence that they did. The same way there
> >is confession and other evidence of gas chambers.
> 
> 
> Please state was piece of evidence *other* than testimony you have to this 
> effect.

They dug up some bones. Read the book THE MYTH OF RITUAL MURDER

-- 
Alexander Baron

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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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In article <47casl$90s@nimitz.fibr.net>
           Harry W. Mazal OBE "hmazal@txdirect.net, San Antonio, Texas" writes:



I've just received a batch of messages from the Archive Manager who (is this
a person or a machine?) says they haven't been posted, so I'm posting them
here. I thought they had been, but what the Hell.



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> Ah.  Then you admit that this talk about what your lawyers will or won't let
> you say was another Baron Lie(tm).
>
> Amazing.  Not that any of this would be true, mind, but amazing that you'd
> admit it.


No, stupid. I have a lawyer who is acting for me on two other matters, my
claim against the police and a claim for criminal injuries. I decided also
to take procedural advice. I do all my own drafting, affidavits etc, but
the law of libel is so incredibly complex that it is extremely difficult
for a litigant in person. Most people are surprised I've got this far. The
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> Howdy..

Howdy. Your posting is a tissue of distortions.

> After observing the Mazal/Baron war for the past months, I just thought an
> opinion might be in order. IMHO, Baron is a PITA litigious anti-Semite. As
> a journalist/author of sorts, he uses the Crown Courts to gain needed
> publicity, although I never heard of him before alt.revisionism.

Do you know what allegations I am suing over? If you don't, hold your tongue.


>In the UK, monetary awards are not decided by
> a jury, but instead calculated by a complicated process called
> Quantitative, and they relate to actual loss rather than the whims of a
> jury. 85k for a civil damages suit is enormous by British standards.

Wrong.


> Libel and slander cases in the UK border on the comical. While the Crown
> Prosecution Service is well known for refusing to prosecute rapists,

The CPS NEVER prosecutes rapists because no rapist is ever prosecuted.
ALLEGED rapists are prosecuted. The CPS will not bring a case unless it has
a reasonable chance, or unless there is meaningful evidence.

>those
> who assault, and major criminals, people like William Roache (a popular
> soap opera character 'Ken Barlow') are awarded large sums for being called
> 'boring.'

You cannot compare the civil law with the criminal law.

It would seem Mr Baron's suits are about on the same level, and
> appropriately, seem to be successful. In the US, his cases would be
> laughed out of court. Mr Baron's frivolous litigation is unmentioned in
> the UK press, AFAIK, and has little if any impact beyond Mr Barons wallet.

How can you call my litigation frivolous if you don't know what it is about?


> Mr Baron's vituperative replies to posts here usually consist of rebuttal
> by 'you can't really believe that is possible, do you?" logic. That is
> usually the crux of his rebuttal: his own opinions and values, sans
> evidence.

In a court of law, EVIDENCE is required. In an English court, hearsay is
not evidence.

> It also seems strange to me that Mr Baron kept tantalizing us with
> "October 22!!!", but he disappeared on the day before, and only reappeared
> three days ago, on demon's server. Why the absence? It all goes to
> credibility, which Mr Baron is losing fast, IMHO.

The problem is your server; I've been on every day.


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>
>  What you should do is lobby for the legalisation
>   of crack, cocaine and heroin.
>
> Does Mr. Baron indulge in the use of any of the above? Do his children?

No.


> Does he really believe that  legalization of these drugs will make the
> world a safer place for his children?

Harry, when they start talking about defending your children they are
really talking about destroying your rights.

> How successful was the British experiment that allowed drug users to
> obtain drugs at a low cost?

Heroin, concaine? Enlighten me.

> Enquiring minds wish to know.  Some Libertarians espouse this
> philosophy including my admired friend, Dr. Milton Friedman.


More to the point, what right does a boring old fart like you have to tell
a black man that he has no right to sell drugs or a man of any race what
he mayt or may not shove up his own nose?


--
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
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> This is but one of many such examples - once, Baron confused
> the gas chambers of Treblinka and Auschwitz.

Dan, I've read the War Refugee Board Report intently, and I know the
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> No Jew, to my knowledge, has ever confessed to "ritual murder" except
> under torture. 

Wrong!

> There is no documentary evidence, bar proven forgeries,
> of Jewish ritual murder.  

Wrong!
>There is no physical evidence of Jewish ritual
> murder.  

Wrong!

>There are no eyewitnesses to any act of Jewish ritual murder.

Wrong!

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy




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Alexander Baron

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Problems with messages being returned so I'm posting them all here.

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page 197 Franz Hoessler denied making selections: "Only doctors could make 
selections, and selections could only be made on orders of higher authorities."

he was asked? "Do you remember the witness Litwinska saying that you took 
her out of the gas chamber?" He replied "Yes, but it was someone else whom 
I took out from the gas chamber."

That seems clear enough to me, Dan. By the way, I note you didn't reply to my
"No gassings in Dachau" posting. Cat got your tongue?

-- 
Alexander Baron

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> Baron is evading the question. He stated that Jews are "dumb".
> He didn't refer to any particular Jew. 

Okay Dan, you in particular are a dumb Jew.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy



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> > Zionism was condemned by all Jewish holymen as a heresy.
> 
>         Unfortunately, since the prophets had passed from history about 2500 
> years before the Zionist movement arose, their opinion as to Theodore Hertzl, 
> Chaim Weitzmann, and David Ben Gourion, is irrelevant, especially since it 
> seems to be known only to Lyin' Al.

I was referring to contemporary Rabbis. You have never heard of the American
council for Judaism perhaps.

>Really unfair of
>  those 
> Jews to fight back against their oppressors and murderers,  -- the people for 
> whom you are continually making excuses -- isn't it.  I guess that worries an 
> anti-Semitic chunk of excrement like you.  Take a hint: Jews fight back 
> now.  

Again, read a little history. The Irgun and the Stern gang were condemned by
the Anglo-Jewish Establishment. When Begin visited this country years later -
after being given immunity from prosecution for murdering my countrymen who 
had been saving his kind from the "gas chambers", Organised Jewry in Britain
refused to meet him. That's probably the only decent thing they've ever done
this century.

Re your 1952 book, the truth has long come out from Israeli sources, and the 
Socialist Workers Party version of your precious Israel and Zionism is 
essentially correct: in short
"Its essence is that a 'chosen people', the Jews, are superior to everyone 
else and can and should trample on the rights of other peoples" 
Socialist Worker, 20.10.1973 (an editorial) quoted also in 
ZIONISM: its European origins, published by the British & Irish Communist 
Organisation, (December 1973), page 44. 


> Then you can go back to worrying about what your fellow 
> non-Jewish Britons will do when you repeat your activities of 1983 and 1985.

More innuendo. Keep following Harry, the blind leading the dumb.


-- 
Alexander Baron

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> Harry W. Mazal BOF

For the last time Harry, you can abuse me all you like but I have no intention
of discussing any of my legal affairs in this newsgroup. The reason for this
is to protect myself from allegations of contempt. You are obviously trying
to tempt me into contempt. Well, you have succeeded, because you already 
have my contempt, and the more you whine on in this vein the more of my
contempt you will have. Dig?

-- 
Alexander Baron

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>         Lyin' Al's disparagement of the murdered of Rabin should be coupled 
> with the information that the individual was a Jew who followed the halacha and,>  
> according to Lyin' Al,  one of the few "real" Jews.

Not so: Zionism annuls the status of the rabbis who preach it - Neturei Karta
in the wake of the Hebron massacre.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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Also, I have heard that Trotsky wrote a book called "On The Jewish Question"
but have been unable to find any printed reference to it. Does anyone have
any further info? Thanks.


-- 
Alexander Baron

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> >It often astounds me that people who condemn the Nazis euthanasia programme
> >and other eugenics activities think nothing of flushing Mongols down the 
> >toilet. And a great many healthy babies too.
> 
> What was the age of fetus, Baron? 

I don't know. I was just making a point. Incidentally, most Rabbis agree with
this.

> Of course, since you are already a
> known Nazi

Known by whom, exactly?


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accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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> "The threat of Revisionism?" I think you overestimate the importance
> of Revisionism in the grand scheme of things. Try to bear in mind that
> Revisionism is a fringe movement utterly bereft of any respectability
> in academia and one which seems only to have a gained its only respect
> within antisemitic and white supremacist circles.

Wouldn't you love to believe that?

>
> In fact, I questioned Van Pelt on a previous occasion on just this
> point. Since it is a common denier assertion that many of the
> documents for the Pressac piece are forgeries because they come from
> the former Soviet Union, the first question I asked was how he knew
> that the Soviet archive was not forged. He made pretty much the same
> arguments that have been made on alt.revisionism before: the Soviets
> never catalogued the archive so they never knew what it was that they
> had.

How do we KNOW they never catalogued the archive? How do we KNOW they didn't
know what was in it?

In fact, after they boxed it up and hauled it out of Auschwitz,
> they never even bothered to examine the documents. The archive is
> vast: there are about 60,000 documents in it that have nothing to do
> with the Holocaust or with gassings. They are just part of the huge
> amount of paper work that a big bureaucracy generates.  But Van Pelt
> did add some interesting details.
>

> All in all,
> the documents are too many and too elaborately done to have been
> forged.

Hmm, so the Soviets didn't forge documents in relation to Katyn? They didn't
write letters home and plant them on the bodies to make it look as though the
victims were murdered by the Germans? That's not what I heard.

The Soviets didn't withdraw every film containing a picture or footage of
Stalin from their own archives and from Western archives and hairbrush him
out? They didn't rewrite the history of the Soviet Union first to exclude
Trotsky and later to minimise Stalin? Of course they didn't. But again, that's
not what I heard.

> The Soviets presented very little at Nuremburg compared to the British
> and the Americans.

I believe they actually presented ONE document in relation to Topf & Sons. One.

Finally, the Soviets have never falsely accused people in the West of
being Nazis or Nazi collaborators, and they have never adduced documentary
evidence of this which has been circulated by "anti-Nazis" in the West?

Not according to what I understand, but then, I'm only Crazy Al.

--
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy





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Alexander Baron

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In article <49b1a0$npl@nimitz.fibr.net>
           Harry W. Mazal OBE "hmazal@txdirect.net, San Antonio, Texas" writes:



>his lies about Israel,

what lies?

> his  lies about Rabbis

what lies?

> his lies about the Blacks, 

what lies?

etc.


> his lies about Olivia Newton-John,


Harry, you have flipped. Olivia Newton-John is a singer.
-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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In article 
           mvanalst@rbi.com "Mark Van Alstine" writes:

> So you admit that 30,000 Jews were interned at concetration camps
> immediately after Kristallnacht but that this means that Jews wren't
> interned prior to Britain declaring war on Germany? You're getting rather
> bizzare in your rationalizations, Al. How can you make such a stupid
> statement and expect people to take you seriously? How do expect people
> not to laugh in your face at such a crock of bullshit? 

After Kristallnacht thousands of Jews were rounded up. Most were released
shortly after. The authorities over-reacted and realised their mistake.

> And this also ignores the deaths from the brutality, torture, severe
> winter weather, unsanitary conditions, and the typhus epidemics in
> Buchenwald and Dachau. In all, about 2,500 men, women, and children died
> as a result of Kristallnacht. (As opposed to the "official" death toll of
> around 90 from Kristallnacht itself.) Most those who died did so in the
> concentration camps. 

2,500? Really? Are you suggesting that the authorities deliberately spread
typhus?
 
> > The Times.
> 
> The New York Time? The London Times? What "Times," exactly, Al? What date,
> article, etc. did this opinion of your's come from? Try and be a bit less
> dissimulating. If you can, that is.

London Times. Check it out yourself.


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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In article 
           mvanalst@rbi.com "Mark Van Alstine" writes:

> First you agree that "racial" differences are "rather restricted to more
> or less superficial differences such as appearance" and then you agree
> that "the negro race is SIGNIFICANTLY less intelligent that the White
> race?" Isn't that called a dichotomy, Al? As you assert that there are
> "masses" of data that support this second point, would you care to provide
> a few salient examples of this research to support your assertion? 

I think what I said was that I don't choose my friends on the basis of race,
or something like that. I also believe that mattoids rather than morons are the
bane of mankind. 

As to the research to prove this point, there is literally tons of it. It is
simply never mentioned nowadays. I think "gas chambers" may have something to
do with that. Check out some of the books that were written about race before
WWII. Check out the books of Nathaniel Weyl too.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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In article 
           mvanalst@rbi.com "Mark Van Alstine" writes:

> >     I have to admit I have not the expertise to know one way or another
> >     whether there was a "gassing" or "delousing" chamber at Dachau. 
> >     However, Dr. Keren writes that he has presented documentation of the
> >     existence of a gas chamber on numerous occasions in this conference and
> >     you have ignored his documentation.
> > 

And again, Dr Keren is at odds with the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust and with
Dachau: The Official History.

The "chambers" that were shown after the war were not gas chambers: one was 
a delousing chamber, the other was an ordinary shower. Any "gassings" that were
carried out at Dachau would have been to do with the medical experiments carried
out there. I have no idea if people were murdered by gas, they were certainly
murdered in other experiments, but inhuman though this is, it hardly constitues
genocide. There is a school of thought which says that the legend of 
extermination by gas grew out of this sort of thing.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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In article <49b1a0$npl@nimitz.fibr.net>
           Harry W. Mazal OBE "hmazal@txdirect.net, San Antonio, Texas" writes:



>his lies about Israel,

what lies?

> his  lies about Rabbis

what lies?

> his lies about the Blacks, 

what lies?

etc.


> his lies about Olivia Newton-John,


Harry, you have flipped. Olivia Newton-John is a singer.
-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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page 197 Franz Hoessler denied making selections: "Only doctors could make 
selections, and selections could only be made on orders of higher authorities."

he was asked? "Do you remember the witness Litwinska saying that you took 
her out of the gas chamber?" He replied "Yes, but it was someone else whom 
I took out from the gas chamber."

That seems clear enough to me, Dan. By the way, I note you didn't reply to my
"No gassings in Dachau" posting. Cat got your tongue?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
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> Baron is evading the question. He stated that Jews are "dumb".
> He didn't refer to any particular Jew. 

Okay Dan, you in particular are a dumb Jew.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
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> > Zionism was condemned by all Jewish holymen as a heresy.
> 
>         Unfortunately, since the prophets had passed from history about 2500 
> years before the Zionist movement arose, their opinion as to Theodore Hertzl, 
> Chaim Weitzmann, and David Ben Gourion, is irrelevant, especially since it 
> seems to be known only to Lyin' Al.

I was referring to contemporary Rabbis. You have never heard of the American
council for Judaism perhaps.

>Really unfair of
>  those 
> Jews to fight back against their oppressors and murderers,  -- the people for 
> whom you are continually making excuses -- isn't it.  I guess that worries an 
> anti-Semitic chunk of excrement like you.  Take a hint: Jews fight back 
> now.  

Again, read a little history. The Irgun and the Stern gang were condemned by
the Anglo-Jewish Establishment. When Begin visited this country years later -
after being given immunity from prosecution for murdering my countrymen who 
had been saving his kind from the "gas chambers", Organised Jewry in Britain
refused to meet him. That's probably the only decent thing they've ever done
this century.

Re your 1952 book, the truth has long come out from Israeli sources, and the 
Socialist Workers Party version of your precious Israel and Zionism is 
essentially correct: in short
"Its essence is that a 'chosen people', the Jews, are superior to everyone 
else and can and should trample on the rights of other peoples" 
Socialist Worker, 20.10.1973 (an editorial) quoted also in 
ZIONISM: its European origins, published by the British & Irish Communist 
Organisation, (December 1973), page 44. 


> Then you can go back to worrying about what your fellow 
> non-Jewish Britons will do when you repeat your activities of 1983 and 1985.

More innuendo. Keep following Harry, the blind leading the dumb.


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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> Harry W. Mazal BOF

For the last time Harry, you can abuse me all you like but I have no intention
of discussing any of my legal affairs in this newsgroup. The reason for this
is to protect myself from allegations of contempt. You are obviously trying
to tempt me into contempt. Well, you have succeeded, because you already 
have my contempt, and the more you whine on in this vein the more of my
contempt you will have. Dig?

-- 
Alexander Baron

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>         Lyin' Al's disparagement of the murdered of Rabin should be coupled 
> with the information that the individual was a Jew who followed the halacha and,>  
> according to Lyin' Al,  one of the few "real" Jews.

Not so: Zionism annuls the status of the rabbis who preach it - Neturei Karta
in the wake of the Hebron massacre.

-- 
Alexander Baron

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Also, I have heard that Trotsky wrote a book called "On The Jewish Question"
but have been unable to find any printed reference to it. Does anyone have
any further info? Thanks.


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
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> >It often astounds me that people who condemn the Nazis euthanasia programme
> >and other eugenics activities think nothing of flushing Mongols down the 
> >toilet. And a great many healthy babies too.
> 
> What was the age of fetus, Baron? 

I don't know. I was just making a point. Incidentally, most Rabbis agree with
this.

> Of course, since you are already a
> known Nazi

Known by whom, exactly?


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy

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> "The threat of Revisionism?" I think you overestimate the importance
> of Revisionism in the grand scheme of things. Try to bear in mind that
> Revisionism is a fringe movement utterly bereft of any respectability
> in academia and one which seems only to have a gained its only respect
> within antisemitic and white supremacist circles.

Wouldn't you love to believe that?

>
> In fact, I questioned Van Pelt on a previous occasion on just this
> point. Since it is a common denier assertion that many of the
> documents for the Pressac piece are forgeries because they come from
> the former Soviet Union, the first question I asked was how he knew
> that the Soviet archive was not forged. He made pretty much the same
> arguments that have been made on alt.revisionism before: the Soviets
> never catalogued the archive so they never knew what it was that they
> had.

How do we KNOW they never catalogued the archive? How do we KNOW they didn't
know what was in it?

In fact, after they boxed it up and hauled it out of Auschwitz,
> they never even bothered to examine the documents. The archive is
> vast: there are about 60,000 documents in it that have nothing to do
> with the Holocaust or with gassings. They are just part of the huge
> amount of paper work that a big bureaucracy generates.  But Van Pelt
> did add some interesting details.
>

> All in all,
> the documents are too many and too elaborately done to have been
> forged.

Hmm, so the Soviets didn't forge documents in relation to Katyn? They didn't
write letters home and plant them on the bodies to make it look as though the
victims were murdered by the Germans? That's not what I heard.

The Soviets didn't withdraw every film containing a picture or footage of
Stalin from their own archives and from Western archives and hairbrush him
out? They didn't rewrite the history of the Soviet Union first to exclude
Trotsky and later to minimise Stalin? Of course they didn't. But again, that's
not what I heard.

> The Soviets presented very little at Nuremburg compared to the British
> and the Americans.

I believe they actually presented ONE document in relation to Topf & Sons. One.

Finally, the Soviets have never falsely accused people in the West of
being Nazis or Nazi collaborators, and they have never adduced documentary
evidence of this which has been circulated by "anti-Nazis" in the West?

Not according to what I understand, but then, I'm only Crazy Al.

--
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy





-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 28 11:16:52 PST 1995
Article: 14082 of alt.revisionism
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From: Alexander Baron 
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In article 
           mvanalst@rbi.com "Mark Van Alstine" writes:

> So you admit that 30,000 Jews were interned at concetration camps
> immediately after Kristallnacht but that this means that Jews wren't
> interned prior to Britain declaring war on Germany? You're getting rather
> bizzare in your rationalizations, Al. How can you make such a stupid
> statement and expect people to take you seriously? How do expect people
> not to laugh in your face at such a crock of bullshit? 

After Kristallnacht thousands of Jews were rounded up. Most were released
shortly after. The authorities over-reacted and realised their mistake.

> And this also ignores the deaths from the brutality, torture, severe
> winter weather, unsanitary conditions, and the typhus epidemics in
> Buchenwald and Dachau. In all, about 2,500 men, women, and children died
> as a result of Kristallnacht. (As opposed to the "official" death toll of
> around 90 from Kristallnacht itself.) Most those who died did so in the
> concentration camps. 

2,500? Really? Are you suggesting that the authorities deliberately spread
typhus?
 
> > The Times.
> 
> The New York Time? The London Times? What "Times," exactly, Al? What date,
> article, etc. did this opinion of your's come from? Try and be a bit less
> dissimulating. If you can, that is.

London Times. Check it out yourself.


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Tue Nov 28 11:16:53 PST 1995
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From: Alexander Baron 
Newsgroups: alt.politics.white-power,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: FOUR TRUTHS THAT NO LIBERAL HAS REFUTED)
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In article 
           mvanalst@rbi.com "Mark Van Alstine" writes:

> First you agree that "racial" differences are "rather restricted to more
> or less superficial differences such as appearance" and then you agree
> that "the negro race is SIGNIFICANTLY less intelligent that the White
> race?" Isn't that called a dichotomy, Al? As you assert that there are
> "masses" of data that support this second point, would you care to provide
> a few salient examples of this research to support your assertion? 

I think what I said was that I don't choose my friends on the basis of race,
or something like that. I also believe that mattoids rather than morons are the
bane of mankind. 

As to the research to prove this point, there is literally tons of it. It is
simply never mentioned nowadays. I think "gas chambers" may have something to
do with that. Check out some of the books that were written about race before
WWII. Check out the books of Nathaniel Weyl too.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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From: Alexander Baron 
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Subject: Re: Al Baron's "documentation" of Ritual Murder?
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In article 
           mvanalst@rbi.com "Mark Van Alstine" writes:

> >     I have to admit I have not the expertise to know one way or another
> >     whether there was a "gassing" or "delousing" chamber at Dachau. 
> >     However, Dr. Keren writes that he has presented documentation of the
> >     existence of a gas chamber on numerous occasions in this conference and
> >     you have ignored his documentation.
> > 

And again, Dr Keren is at odds with the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust and with
Dachau: The Official History.

The "chambers" that were shown after the war were not gas chambers: one was 
a delousing chamber, the other was an ordinary shower. Any "gassings" that were
carried out at Dachau would have been to do with the medical experiments carried
out there. I have no idea if people were murdered by gas, they were certainly
murdered in other experiments, but inhuman though this is, it hardly constitues
genocide. There is a school of thought which says that the legend of 
extermination by gas grew out of this sort of thing.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


From A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 29 07:09:05 PST 1995
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In article <49bvjo$jqp@access2.digex.net>
           mstein@access2.digex.net "Michael P. Stein" writes:
> 
>     Not so fast.  You're the one who said that the Irgun bombed the hotel. 
> "He who asserts must prove," by your own admission.  It is not for Danny
> Keren to prove they didn't, but for you to prove they did - using only
> evidence of the quality you would accept as proof of a Nazi gassing. 

No. This claim is accepted and is not disputed by any historian as far as
I know, Revisionist or otherwise. If you have evidence to the contrary,
present it. In any case this is simply an exercise in sophistry by Dan.



-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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In article <49d8j4$3ee@eco.twg.com> chall@eco.twg.com "Charles Don Hall" writes:

> I read that that Burton made everything in that appendix up out of
> whole cloth, and that he recanted it on his deathbed.

That is a lie. If I recall - look him up - Burton didn't die on a death bed
but suddenly of a heart attack. The appendix was suppressed by Organised Jewry.
Burton was not in the slightest anti-Semitic and counted a number of cultured
Jews amongst his friends. 

> 
> I don't remember where I read that, or who the author was, though.
> I think the book had a blue cover.

No, it was definitely suppressed by Organised Jewry. Check out Colin Holmes'
"Anti-Semitism In British Society" and Thurlow's book on fascism. Both these
men are philo-Semitic creeps.

> Take flying saucers: When alien contacts were first reported, we
> get a whole range of different alien descriptions. (This is consistent
> with a bunch of people making up stories independently.) Then, 
> after a while, a book comes out describing a particular encounter.
> It's unusually well-written, so it hits the best-seller list. 
> (I'm thinking of that "Communion" book which described the
> so-called "Greys", but maybe there are earlier books that I
> don't know about...) So, afterwards, whenever anyone claims to
> have met an alien, they use the description from this book.
> All of the other alien types fade into obscurity.

You're right. Exactly the same thing happened with Nazi atrocities. Who now
remembers the steam chambers, the electrocution chambers and all the other 
nonsense about glue factories etc? What happened was that the public - and 
others - became more credulous.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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In article <49du62$us@nimitz.fibr.net>

> In
> the meantime he might wish to tell us why, after being Mr. David Irving's
>  admirer, 
> Mr. Baron suddenly began to attack him. 

I have never been an "admirer" of David Irving; I have stated simply that he
is the world's leading Hitler scholar and a very fine historian in his own 
right. That is an objective assessment.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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In article <49daqo$12n@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>
           jwccti1@kaiwan.com "Jim Collier" writes:

 
> As for the bombing of the King David Hotel, I have always thought it
> was unfortunate that Ernest Bevin wasn't inside at the time. 

If you are a Jew Mr Collier you are a walking advert for anti-Semitism. If you
are not then I would suggest that with "friends" like you, Jews don't need 
enemies. Is there any other murder you would have approved of?

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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From: Alexander Baron 
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Encyclopedia ofthe Holocaust, Volume 1, pages 339-42, entry for DACHAU:

page 342: "In 1942 a gas chamber was built in Dachau, but it was not put into
use."

Looks like you and Harry Mazal have got some explaining to do. Perhaps you
should drop Editor in Chief Israel Gutman a line. Or find something else to
accuse me of lying about.



-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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In article <49f4b9$nqj@news.enter.net> yawen@enter.net "Yale F. Edeiken" writes:

> 
>         "The trial judge was impressed by the plaintiff's obvious quibbling, 
> evasions, and his manifest want of sincerity and veracity, and was utterly
>  unable to 
> credit his professed freedom from violent and odious anti-Semitic sentiments
>  and 
> prediclections."  Chief Justice Maxey, Pennsylvania Supreme Court (51 A.2d
>  at779)

I'm sure you're a very good lawyer Yale, but you are obviously not qualified
to practice in England because you are ignorant of British civil procedure.
Not to mention facts.

-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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In article  dkeren@world.std.com "Daniel Keren" writes:

> # The "chambers" that were shown after the war were not gas
> # chambers: 
> 
> Rubbish. All historians agree the chamber was built and meant to
> be used to gas people. The Racher-Himmler letter, for instance,
> proves this beyond doubt. Some, indeed, question whether it was
> used.

Not according to Pressac, and as the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust is
published by the authoratitive Exterminationist organisation your questioning
it puts you in serious trouble. Remember Dan, there is no debate.
> 
> # Any "gassings" that were
> # carried out at Dachau would have been to do with the medical 
> # experiments carried out there. I have no idea if people were
> # murdered by gas, 
> 
> Baron doesn't have an idea about anything, certainly not ideas
> that have any value.
> 
> # they were certainly murdered in other experiments, 
> 
> How true that is.
> 
> # but inhuman though this is, it hardly constitues genocide. 
> 
> The medical experiments alone do not constitute genocide, that
> is true; however, they were guided by the same mentality which
> guided Nazi mass murder.

And which sanctions torture in Israeli custody and the shooting dead of 
Palestinian schoolchildren. Sauce for the goose, Dan.


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy


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           anakin@pinc.com "I yam what I yam" writes:
> 2) Because Baron when he denies the holocaust is doing it for no other reason
>    that to spew his hatred of all non-whites, and common logic doesn't dictate
>    his actions.

Really? What has this to do with non-whites? And what do you know about my
relationships with non-whites? I think what you are confusing is the difference
between real Nazis, Hollywood Nazis and Revisionists. Real Nazis were German
nationalists, and many, but not all, were anti-Semites. Revisionists are people
who challenge the perceived wisdom. Hollywood Nazis are the media expression
of racial hatred, in particular the hatred of a certain type of Jew for the
society he holds responsible for the historic persecution of his race and 
immediately associates this with any form of white racial consciousness.
Except Zionism that is. As to my hatred for non-whites, no one in the Islamic
Party of Britain seems to have noticed it, and I haven't been expelled yet.
You people suck.


-- 
Alexander Baron

"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself the
accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy



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