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Subject: Re: Auschwitz: The 4-Million Variant
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[alt.censorship trimmed, followups to alt.revisionism]

It never ceases to amaze me when this one is brought up
again... with all the documentation provided demonstrating the
nonsensical nature of the claim, one can only wonder:

In article <4gm2cm$b1b@byatt.alaska.net>, 
Henry Ayre  wrote:

>The "official" number of Jews exterminated in the "gas chambers" at 
>Auschwitz has fluctuated often according to which "expert" is telling the 
>tale, but the general trend has been downward over the years. Recently, a 
>plaque giving a precise number of victims has been removed from Auschwitz 
>and replaced with another giving a lower figure. 

Those interested in seeing how futile it is to bring this old
canard up are invited to peruse

http://www.almanac.bc.ca/cgi-bin/ftp.pl?camps/auschwitz/4-million-variant

>This is such a stupid 
>argument that I won't even get out of my chair to look for references. If 
>you don't know any more about the subject, Bill, than it seems you do, 
>then I suggest you cease posting for awhile and spend your time doing 
>some serious reading. H. Ayre.

I agree with Mr. Arye. This is indeed a stupid argument, and I
am surprised to see Mr. Arye raise it once again.

Mr. Arye, although skilled at injecting essentially
meaningless remarks into these discussions, has never posted a
shred of evidence in support of his hollow innuendo.

Perhaps this time, he will move from empty rhetoric to serious
discussion, and explain, to all of us, just why he has ignored
all of the evidence posted here previously (see the URL noted
earlier).

Does Mr. Arye have a comment to make, addressing that
evidence?

No, he does not.

Does Mr. Arye provide us with documentation demonstrating that
the evidence noted is without merit?

No, he does not.

Does Mr. Arye perhaps believe that his readers are simply too
dense to see this?

He apparently does; it is a trait he seems to share with the
other deniers in these fora - this belief that tens of
thousands of UseNet readers are too stupid to consider this
evidence for themselves.

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From henri@alaska.net Sun Feb 25 13:24:00 PST 1996
Article: 84163 of alt.politics.correct
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From: Henry Ayre 
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Subject: Re: Pat Buchanan is coming, and he'll burn down the Reichstag!
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mkennedy@iglou.com (Max Kennedy) wrote:
>Frank Casper (fjc@apollo.HP.COM) wrote:
>
>	He has ties into the shadowy community 
>: 	defined by adherance to the Christian Identity movement,
>: 	a theology whose key position is to regard Jews as the
>: 	literal biological offspring of Satan. 
>
>This is a statement I have on my shelf as highly questionable, needs 
>looking into sometime.  
>Max Kennedy


This type of comment, i.e., "shadowy connections," or "shadowy dealings" 
is typical of what will be written more and more about Pat Buchanan as he 
becomes a more serious threat to the establishment. It is the type of 
comment that is written by detractors about *any* man who is on the 
ascendency and about whom no real solid dirt can be generated. It is, in 
fact, a positive comment to those who know how to interpret public 
commentary. Look for comments of this genre, expect them, they will be 
coming! When they come note from where they come! H. Ayre.



From henri@alaska.net Sun Feb 25 13:24:04 PST 1996
Article: 84176 of alt.politics.correct
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From: Henry Ayre 
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Subject: Re: Pat Buchanan is coming, and he'll throw the bums out!
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Right on! The mass media establishment has set up a list of sacred cow 
issues that no one can touch without being a "bad person." In the last 
several years the average American has turned both thumbs down on the 
mass media, a rejection that the talking heads cannot conceive of 
or accept. The public thumbs down includes the list of sacred cows. 
Jennings, Brocaw, Rather, et al don't realize that they are talking 
largely to an empty or antagonistic audience. H. Ayre.



From henri@alaska.net Tue Feb 27 13:52:27 PST 1996
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From: Henry Ayre 
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Poor Mr McVay! Is he reduced to arguing about faggots? Has he been 
forsaken by his adoptive tribe?

Recently, Sol Litman, head of the Canadian Simon Wiesenthal Centre 
described Mr McVay in a draft prepared for presentation at a press 
conference in Ottowa in 1995 as

     ..."a west coast convenience store clerk who has taken it upon 
     himself to post his own truth next to the hate propaganda of
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     white power advocates and Holocaust deniers."

They have treated you shabbily, Mr. McVay! They have disowned you, Mr. 
McVay! What is this all about, "his own truth?" Is the Nizkor thing all a 
figment of your own personal opinions and estimations? Doesn't it any 
longer have the imprimatur of Zionist officialdom? Did it EVER have such 
a blessing? This is a very disturbing development, and I am shaken to the 
core by it.  H. Ayre.

     





From henri@alaska.net Tue Feb 27 13:52:29 PST 1996
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From: Henry Ayre 
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Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.politics.pat-buchanan.neo-nazi.asshole
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anybody@anyplace (Anybody) wrote:
>How about:
>        
>      alt.politics.pat-buchanan.neo-nazi.asshole
>
>Or:
>
>      alt.fan.pat-buchanan.fascist.pig

                  *************************************

How about you don't bother us with this sort of childishness. If you want 
to discuss issues, by all means do so. If you are disturbed by Pat 
Buchanan's campaign--which seems to be catching on very well with 
sizeable numbers of people--then you should point out just what it is 
that bothers you, rather than resorting to hate-mongering.

Or better still, why don't you run for elective office? With your 
skillful choice of words I am sure you would be a howling success. Or a 
howling something. H. Ayre.




From henri@alaska.net Tue Feb 27 13:52:30 PST 1996
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anybody@anyplace (Anybody) wrote:
>How about:
>        
>      alt.politics.pat-buchanan.neo-nazi.asshole
>
>Or:
>
>      alt.fan.pat-buchanan.fascist.pig

                  *************************************

How about you don't bother us with this sort of childishness. If you want 
to discuss issues, by all means do so. If you are disturbed by Pat 
Buchanan's campaign--which seems to be catching on very well with 
sizeable numbers of people--then you should point out just what it is 
that bothers you, rather than resorting to hate-mongering.

Or better still, why don't you run for elective office? With your 
skillful choice of words I am sure you would be a howling success. Or a 
howling something. H. Ayre.

P.S. You might even try using a real email address rather than what you 
have done.




From henri@alaska.net Tue Feb 27 13:52:31 PST 1996
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From: Henry Ayre 
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: God Intervening to Help Pat Buchanan
Date: 27 Feb 1996 20:33:13 GMT
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Aside from the speculation about what God is doing in this presidential 
election year, I do not see on the horizon anyone OTHER than Pat Buchanan 
who can possibly defeat Bill Clinton. Bob Dull? Heavens, no! He hasn't a 
prayer. He puts people to sleep with his non-thoughts and non-ideas. 
Lamar Alexander? He reminds people of a salesman for Rolls Royce: smooth 
and shallow. Steve Forbes? Well, he is the CIA's candidate and will be 
reimbursed for every penny of his money that he never did spend on his 
campaign. (Remember, the CIA has billion$ cached away and would 
prefer to buy a presidency rather than have to assassinate another 
sitting president.) People smell something funny about Forbes, like a 
huge coverup concerning the articles of his ex-editor in chief, James 
Norman.

Pat Buchanan arouses passions in people, and at this early stage of the 
election year his campaign seems to be the only one that is "on track." 
Just a personal opinion, of course. H. Ayre.




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