From henri@alaska.net Tue Nov 28 09:47:30 PST 1995
Article: 220191 of talk.politics.guns
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From: Henry Ayre 
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Subject: Re: Vet on Oath of Enlistment was US troops in UN uniform
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mvanalst@rbi.com (Mark Van Alstine) wrote:
>In article <48kvb6$1a0@nntp.novia.net>, nicatt@oasis.novia.net (Nicatt) wrote:
>
>> No, the UN has no authority to order US troops anywhere.  Nor will they order
>> US troops anywhere at anytime!  
>> 
>> The UN will "request" troops from the governments that make up the UN.  The
>> troops will then be "loaned" to the UN and thus will become UN troops 
>> under the UN's command and control.  
>
>Not likely. In the Gulf War, the UN _sanctioned_ Coalition intervention in
>the Gulf. The UN had no operational control over the troops whatsoever.
>The US maintained _complete_ control of its troops during the War.
>
>As the proposed sending of US troops to Bosnia is to be done under NATO
>control, and that the the U.S. is the _leader_ of NATO, I fail to see how
>the U.N. will have operational control of U.S. troops. Just as in the Gulf
>War, the U.N. will _sanction_ NATO intervention and NATO will be in
>control of the troops, with the U.S. having control of U.S. troops- not
>the U.N.
>
>This UN-phobia stuff is getting a little shrill lately. About time people
>got a grip on themselves! Sheeesh!
>
>Mark
>

A lot of the discourse on several subjects is getting a bit shrill 
lately... and for very good reasons. But I suspect that in retrospect 
current levels of discussion will seem as the gentle murmur of a very 
soft summer breeze. Get earplugs if necessary, Mr. Van Alstine, get 
earplugs.   H. Ayre.



From henri@alaska.net Thu Nov 30 08:23:16 PST 1995
Article: 20716 of alt.conspiracy
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From: Henry Ayre 
Newsgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater,alt.conspiracy,alt.censorship
Subject: Dole and the Telegraph: HOW ABOUT STRAIGHT TALK!
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I made another try by using the remote-printer facility for sending a fax 
by email since Senator Dole's fax machine would not wake up for a direct 
fax connection. Here's what I said...



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Senator Robert Dole                                       Nov. 29, 1995
Washington, D.C.

Dear Senator Dole:

	Yesterday I accessed your Web page on the Internet and must congratulate you on its very professional appearance. However, what I w=
anted was to ask you a question that has arisen in the minds of increasing numbers of people on the Internet, and it annoyed me that=
 I could find no email address anywhere visible on your Web page. Could someone have forgotten to include it?

	As a next best choice, I emailed the question to two House members from Kansas, Pat Roberts and Sam Brownback, asking each to pass =
the question on to you. Then an "electronic friend" on the Internet gave me your fax number in Washington, D.C. so that I could try =
to get the question to you in a more direct fashion.

	As you may have heard, the people's investigation into the death of Vincent Foster (including all of the myriad ramifications of th=
at affair) being conducted on the Internet continues to bring forth revelations nearly daily. This investigation has spawned what mi=
ght be called a cottage industry of new magazines, newsletters, video tape producers, etc. The story is being discussed sub rosa by =
informed people throughout the world.

	The broad conclusion already reached by many on the Internet is that our traditional mass media are consciously and purposefully ig=
noring this subject which should be the biggest news story of the generation. The conviction also grows that the present administrat=
ion--AND PAST ADMINISTRATIONS--are pressuring the traditional mass media to employ this "benign neglect" to the subject. However, on=
e newspaper, the London Telegraph, has run some penetrating articles on the expanded Vince Foster story by its talented journalist, =
Evans-Pritchard.

	Recently a story has appeared on the Internet stating that you yourself, or one of your associates under your direction, has reques=
ted of the London Telegraph not to pursue any longer the subject of the death of Vincent Foster, the importation of massive quantiti=
es of cocaine into the United States by the CIA at the Mena, Arkansas, airport during the Reagan/Bush administrations, the entire PR=
OMIS software/Systematics affair, etc. 

	Inasmuch as the Internet is predicated on the virtue and necessity of freedom of speech, as is the Constitution of the United State=
s itself, this suggestion that a major Presidential hopeful might recently have acted to censor the free flow of truthful investigat=
ion about governmental corruption troubles many people. We don't want to think that this is true, but on the other hand the number o=
f documented cases where evidence on this broad subject has been altered or made to disappear, and witnesses have been persecuted an=
d even killed, and governmental investigations themselves seem unable to make any progress, makes us fear the worse while hoping for=
 the best.

	Please, Senator Dole, tell us in unambiguous terms that you, or your colleagues or associates under your direction, have never cont=
acted the London Telegraph in any way to ask them not to print further articles on the Vincent Foster murder and the many related su=
bjects. Give us your reply in a form that can be posted to the 'Net in order to reassure the millions of separate centers of influen=
ce out there.

	With all best wishes, Henry Ayre     henri@alaska.net

	


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From henri@alaska.net Sat Dec  2 07:50:59 PST 1995
Article: 14595 of alt.revisionism
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From: Henry Ayre 
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.white-power,soc.culture.african.american,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: [02/17] Uncommon Ground: Black-African Holocaust Council
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kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) wrote:
>Archive/File: pub/orgs/american/adl/uncommon-ground/bahc
>Last-Modified: 1995/09/25
>
>         The Black African Holocaust Council
>
>On April 19, 1994, over 2,000 individuals converged on the
>campus of Howard University to attend a night-long even
>dedicated to "Documenting the Black Holocaust." The crowd
>cheered wildly as one by one, champions of demagoguery like
>Steve Cokely, Professor Leonard Jeffries, Professor Tony
>Martin, and Khalid Abdul Muhammad, took the stage. Each of them
>implicated Jews and Jewish organizations in an assortment of
>alledged plots to destroy the black community, and repeatedly
>brought the audience to its feet with anti-white remarks.
>Equally disturbing was the insistence by all of these men that
>the Nazi murder of six million Jews was trivial in comparison
>to the suffering imposed by whites on the African people.
>
>While this celebration of hatred was the subject of media
>attention in the days that followed, many of the individuals
>who took to the podium that night have faded from the
>headlines. But, out of the spotlight, their battle cries have
>not weakened. In fact, they have recently been provided with
>an additional forum for their rhetoric by a group known as the
>Black African Holocaust Council. (Anti-Defamation League, 3)
>
>                     Work Cited
>
>Anti-Defamation League. Uncommon Ground: The Black African
>Holocaust Council and Other Links Between Black and White
>Extremists. New York: Anti-Defamation League, 1994
>
Kenneth McVay OBC. 

Well! It certainly is understandable how much angst the above development 
is causing the Zionist holocausters. Now they have to compete with the 
Black holocausters. And where did the Black holocausters get the idea to 
get on the band wagon? Why from the Zionist holocausters, of course! But 
will it end there? No, why should it? Think of the possible entrants in 
the holocauster hoola hoop: the Ukrainians, they have lost more millions 
than the Zionists want the world to believe they lost; the Chinese, what 
are we talking about, thirty or forty million at least; the South 
American holocaust (remember the death squads?); and with a little 
research we can come up with a number of other valid entries.

Rather than squelch this subject of the many holocausts down through 
history, why not do the subject justice? Why not a massive holocaust 
theme park with hourly live re-enactments? It would cost at least a 
billion dollars to construct (think of the jobs it would create), and it 
would be great fun for the whole family. Think of the tremendous spread 
of emotions possible as one enjoys a flame-broiled hamburger to the tune 
of shrieks of pain and groans of anguish. Or a taco. Or a Big Mac.

The holocaust theme park would be entirely fair about the space devoted 
to each holocaust group seeking representation. The grand total claimed 
killed, gassed, drowned, hacked up, shot, and etcetera by all the 
entrants would be the denominator of the fractional space alotted to each 
on the basis of that group's numerator. With only six million (and that 
figure now admitted incorrect by Zionist holocausters themselves) the 
originators of this fabulous holocaust fad may wind up with no more than 
5% of the total holocaust theme park space... probably less than that. 
But we must be fair, mustn't we?   H. Ayre.



From henri@alaska.net Sat Dec  2 07:51:00 PST 1995
Article: 14596 of alt.revisionism
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From: Henry Ayre 
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Guerilla@cris.com (Scott Mikusko) wrote:
>
>: But, in what appears to be a blatant and outright attempt at censorship, 
>: on 28 Nov. 1995, the site was yanked from the cris.com server, leaving 
>: for our 250-300+ daily visitors only an ad for cris.com and a directory 
>: containing our newsletter.  Everything else was gone.  Representatives 
>: from the ISP could not be reached for an explanation of any sort.  
>
>Actually you got booted because you seem to not listen to my request to 
>stop forging your email address to make it look like another person or a 
>bogus address. This type of email abuse is against the Terms of Service.
>If you can't handle Netiquette, and abuse our services, you lose our 
>services.
>
>:   Truth will always prevail. 
>
>Indeed it will.
>
>: Those who come against us shall fail.
>
>Well, we just suspend.
>
>-Scott Mikusko
>

And anyhow what is "CESNORSHIP?" The chap doesn't need a censor, he does 
it all by himself.  H. Ayre.



From henri@alaska.net Sat Dec  2 07:51:01 PST 1995
Article: 14597 of alt.revisionism
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From: Henry Ayre 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Hitler -- was he circumcised?
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gmcfee@ibm.net (Gord McFee) wrote:
>In message <49ca73$ggr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> - ggtate@aol.com (Ggtate) writes:
>
>:>
>:>Is it a matter of definite historical record whether or not Hitler was
>:>circumcised and, if so, was he or wasn't he, and where is this documented?
>:>
>:>Has this question every been addressed in print and, if so, where?
>
>Hitler was not circumcised.  I would point you to Werner Maser's 
>_Hitler: Legend, Myth & Reality_, Harper Torchbooks, New York, 1973, page 
>224, reporting on a medical examination given to Hitler in October 1944 by 
>Dr. Erwin Giesing.  The quote runs, "...I drw down the nightshirt to cover 
>his abdomen and pulled the bed-=clothes right back. ... The genitals showed 
>no abnormalities.  The prepuce was drawn back..."
>
>Since the prepuce is the foreskin (Vorhaut in German), and it couldn't be 
>drawn back if Hitler had been circumcised (since he wouldn't have one), he 
>must not have been circumcised.
>
>
>
>--
>Gord McFee
>"I'll write no line before its time"
>

And I guess it was time to write those lines above... which speaks 
volumes about these people. If one thinks about it. H. Ayre.



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Article: 14598 of alt.revisionism
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From: Henry Ayre 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: HOW MANY and WHERE?
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dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Daniel Mittleman) wrote:
>In article <49e5f0$983@zippy.cais.net>, tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) writes...
>>	
>>	What a mess. The assertions are 10, 11 or 12 million persons murdered
>>by the German people.  A awesome charge.
>>	Those who do all the asserting should be held accountable for details.
>>	How many were killed? To the nearest 250,000. 
>>	How many were killed in the camps?
>>	By what methods?
>>	How many by each method.
>>	How many in each camp?	
>>	How many killed in "the field"?
>>	By what methods?
>>	How many by each method?
>>	How many in each sector of "the field"?
>
>    In the beginning of your posting run lo about six or eight weeks ago, I
>    and others made an honest attempt to address your questions.
>
>    At this point in time I think it is much more appropriate simply to
>    ask, "why do you want to know?"
>
>
>===========================================================================
>daniel david mittleman     -     danny@arizona.edu     -     (520) 621-2932
>

Possibly he is a scholar as you are yourself, Daniel. Some people take a 
scholarly interest in such things. H. Ayre.





From henri@alaska.net Sat Dec  2 07:51:03 PST 1995
Article: 14599 of alt.revisionism
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From: Henry Ayre 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Moran-Geologist at Large
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dmittleman@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (Daniel Mittleman) wrote:
>>In article <49e5fm$983@zippy.cais.net> tm@pacificnet.net (tom moran) writes:
>> 
>>>        Your right, I don't. I read mostly general topic geology books, many
>>>authors, College 'fundementals' of geology books, many authors,
>>>"Roadside Geology of ..." books, I've taken it in college, five
>>>courses, I've been on a number of field trips, I can go any where,
>>>look at just about anything geological and tell you what happened,
>>>what is happening and what is going to happen. 
>
>    Well, then.  Apparantly unlike other Holocaust deniers who have just
>    crawled out from under a rock, Mr. Moran can tell us what kind of rock
>    it was.
>
>===========================================================================
>daniel david mittleman     -   

Nope I was wrong about that! I thought for a moment that Danny was a 
scholar, but now I see he is auditioning for a standup comic gig. You 
have a way to go yet.  H. Ayre.



From henri@alaska.net Sat Dec  2 07:51:03 PST 1995
Article: 14600 of alt.revisionism
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From: Henry Ayre 
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Baron Surrenders! (was Re: SS-Obersturmfuehrer Hoessler Talk
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mvanalst@rbi.com (Mark Van Alstine) wrote:
>In article <817547798snz@abaron.demon.co.uk>, A_Baron@abaron.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
>> I have never been an "admirer" of David Irving; I have stated simply that he
>> is the world's leading Hitler scholar and a very fine historian in his own 
>> right. That is an objective assessment.
>
>You mean Hitlerphile and journalist, don't you, Al. (Similiar to you
>except you aren't really a journalist.) Irving holds no formal
>qualifications as a historian last I heard. Certainly, his writings aren't
>history in the academic sense. A Hitler apologia yes. History? No. 
>
>Mark
>

Webster's Seventh New Collegiate Dictionary: historian 1 : a student or 
writer of history, esp : one that produces a scholarly synthesis.

David Irving is a historian in every sense of the word. The scholarly 
synthesis he has created concerning the Second World War frightens and 
angers the Zionist organizations of the world and they naturally seek to 
discredit him. Any viewpoint at odds with Zionist plans and objectives is 
very apt to receive the same treatment as does David Irving. This type of 
action is observable world wide and is a highly coordinated activity.
H. Ayre.

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