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From markz@io.org Mon Feb 19 21:05:32 PST 1996
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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Chinese racism in Richmond, BC....
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[ Article crossposted from bc.general,ont.general,tor.general,can.general,can.politics,can.community.asian,soc.culture.canada ]
[ Author was John Doe ]
[ Posted on Sat, 17 Feb 1996 10:32:54 GMT ]

dhu@direct.ca (dhu) wrote:

>In article , bn207@freenet.carleton.ca (Pat Coghlan) says:
>>
>>In article <4g1kpi$o0f@berlin.infomatch.com>, (Glen Fisher) wrote:
>>
>>> Local Canadians  need more health care than immigrants. 
>>> One reason is that immigrants need to go through comprehensive health
>>> examination before they can come. Those with unhealthy bodies are not
>>> allowed to come.
>>
>>So you sponsor your 'healthy' 70 year-old parents to come over and the
>>next thing you know they have full access to the same health care system
>>that life-long Canadians (who paid taxes) do.  In Ontario that means free
>>prescriptions too if you're over-65.
>>
>>And by the way, those with unhealthy bodies ARE allowed to come -
>>including families with children that have mental health problems.
>>
>>And they wonder why right-wing governments are in-vogue these days.

>	I work in a hospital in Vancouver, and see the UNHEALTHY 
>elderly people who got sponsored in. Many have had longstanding incurable
>diseases such as diabetes, high blood pressure, and assorted other 
>conditions. Shortly after getting here, with the abundance of cheap, rich
>foods, they get strokes and heart attacks. And they are all spending our tax
>dollars.

>	There are also people who got sponsored in who have SEVERE
>long standing mental illness. This is one of the exclusions from entry into 
>Canada.

>	So, although ON PAPER, people who potentially will pose a 
>burden on our social safety network are not allowed in as immigrants, the
>reality is a screening system leaky as a sieve, with OCCASSIONAL 
>enforcement only.

>	Hospitals have geared up on drug-resistent, airborne, TB
>protocols due to Asians coming in with that. Hepatitis is ASSUMED to
>be existent in all recent immigrants from Asia. This is called UNIVERSAL
>PRECAUTIONS protocol.

>Diana Hu, B.Sc.Pharm.
>St. Vincent's Hospital
>Vancouver, B.C.
>UBC Clinical Instructor.

One of the biggest problems is MENTAL health, Gangs of mentally ill
youths from all over asia beating the $%^& out of tax paying canadians
outside of down town theatres. I SAY SEND EM' BACK.




From markz@io.org Mon Feb 19 23:56:32 PST 1996
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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Markham Chinese vs White people.
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[ Article crossposted from soc.culture.canada ]
[ Author was s2lui@acs.ryerson.ca (William Lui) ]
[ Posted on Thu, 15 Feb 1996 23:28:27 GMT ]


What I suggest is simply ignore those bullshit comments written by
the poor educated people. Those comments truly reflect they only
see the wall in front of them. Why do the God have to put these
morons into the world? Their existence would be the obstacle of
world's progression. I also want to take this opportunity to tell and
ask the white people:  You WHITE PEOPLE are also immigrants from
Europe, please do not use the term " colony" to describe the community
where Asians are living. If you do, it instantly means there are
couple thousand colonies accross Canada. Don't forget you WHITE
PEOPLE took over everything from the NATIVES when your ancestors
came over. So, you WHITE PEOPLE are also the occupants. If you WHITE
PEOPLE have the right to move from the other part of the world, why
not we can't have the same right? If you WHITE PEOPLE hate Asians, why
do you go to Asia to beg for business contracts? Canada has no racist?
Says who?




P.S. Corina Lau, you have suggested some good questions,
        I love to see that.




From markz@io.org Wed Feb 21 06:21:05 PST 1996
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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Today is Heritage Day
Date: 20 Feb 1996 03:36:30 GMT
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[ Article crossposted from soc.culture.canada,can.general ]
[ Author was Eugene Woo ]
[ Posted on 19 Feb 1996 23:40:31 GMT ]


Today is Heritage Day but what is it?

Why should we care when Canada doesnt have any heritage to celebrate?

At least they should make it a day off.  Then we could have celebrated
the Chinese New Year.


From markz@io.org Thu Feb 22 13:11:47 PST 1996
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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: The Europian conquest why is everybody so screwed up!?
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[ Article crossposted from tor.general,ont.general,van.general,bc.general,soc.culture.canada,can.general,alt.politics.immigration ]
[ Author was Ilias Kotsovolos ]
[ Posted on Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:59:04 -0500 ]

Caprina ,, , wrote:
> 
> Now look! I didn't do you any harm, and I wouldn't anyway. I do not
> approve of, in fact, I condemn the actions of the conquerins you are
> referring to. It's wrong and IMO there is *no* excuse for any kind of barbarism
> on the part of anyone, no matter what their culture, race etc.
>     All my life, I've heard all about the evils of the white people, I am
> well aware what they did, and frankly, it makes me sick!! 

You have been brainwashed in political correctness. Territorial conflicts, wars and conquests
have been going on since the recorded history, and not by "white people" until relatively
recently. Ancient Greeks, Romans, Egyptians etc. have all at one time conquered and butchered.
I'm not too familiar with N.A. Indian history, but I'm sure there were tribal conflicts about
land here as well.
You're falling into a guilt trip that we have been put to the last few years by certain 
minorities and politicians. I'm one of the least violent people, but I'll tell you one thing:
It's unfortunate, but explorations for new lands and resources have been part of the human 
evolution and instinct to better living conditions. The big fish eats the small. Sounds bad,
but that's how it is.
If it wasn't the French and Anglos here, would be the Spanish or Portuguese. You and the natives
better accept the fact that they have been defeated many years ago and lost their land. History
does not turn back. The Roman empire at one time occupied a good chunk of Europe and Middle East. 
I don't hear the Italians now asking for that land back. Life, as rough as it seems Caprina,
goes on.

> What I would
> like to hear more about, is your way of life, aside from the sorry
> reservation situation, which, by the way, I strongly disagree with.
> People should not be sectioned off to live where they are told just
> because of something so ridiculous as skin color or culture. Why can't
> you just live wherever? That makes no sense to me.
> And why should *I* be made to pay for the heinous actions of the whites
> who got their jollies by conquering and brutalizing everyone else!?!!??
> They were morons who thought they were superior because they were a
> certain color and race. What they failed to see was, there is nothing
> wrong with your race, and you can't help being born Indian any more than
> those conquerors could help being born white. That does *not* give
> *anyone* the right to think they're superior to anyone else!

Mental superiority here is irrelevant. The extent to which a civilization can protect itself
>from  outside conquering forces can be inferior.

> I can't help the fact that I happen to be a white person who was born in
> Saskatchewan, and now live in Alberta. That is how my life turned out,
> and I never pushed *anyone* off their land, *AND I WOULDN'T!! I am not
> your enemy. Please don't throw *all* the whites in the same kettle with
> the monsters who caused all this trouble. You mentioned a few other races
> before, Blacks, Hispanics, etc. From what I understand, the white people
> brutalized them as well. But just because I happen to look like one of
> the white monsters on the outside, doesn't mean I'm one of them. I wish
> there was some way to rewrite history and blot out all trace of racism,
> prejudice, brutalization, but there is no way that can be done. The only
> way we can achieve peace in this country is by getting rid of the
> prejudices and treating one another like people instead of property or
> targets for hate. We've just got to stop this hate *now*!!!

You keep making excuses about your race. It's either the heavy brainwash, or you have an
inferiority complex which is worst than hate.
 
Ilias K.


From markz@io.org Thu Feb 22 13:11:48 PST 1996
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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Chinese racism in Richmond, BC....
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[ Article crossposted from bc.general,ont.general,tor.general,can.general,can.politics,can.community.asian,soc.culture.canada ]
[ Author was Darren Crooks ]
[ Posted on Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:03:39 GMT ]

In article <4fuifm$9o0@news2.cts.com>, pkolding@cts.com (PKolding) says...
>
>cook@mindlink.bc.ca (cook) wrote:
>
>>In article <4foi1g$bj4@ionews.io.org>, bchong@io.org (Bob Chong) wrote:
>
>>> Richard Lee, a landed immigrant living in Hong Kong, has just announced 
the
>>> construction of a new luxury 12 story condominium to be built at 
>>> harbourfront that confirms to all environmental and city zoning bylaws.
>>> 
>>> Think of how many jobs he is creating for his fellow Canadians.
>>> 
>>> Think of how many jobs are created when you multiply this by 200,000!
>
>>Did he even bother to offer them for sale in Canada?  Numerous
>>developments have only been offered for sale in Hong Kong and have been
>>totally sold out to offshore speculators.
>
>Strange how when foreigners buy property they so often, in the minds
>of certain people, are suddenly transformed into "offshore
>speculators". It seems to me people should be allowed to sell their
>property to whom they wish, and upon their own terms.
>
But that's not the point. Suppose Mr. Lee was an English Canadian who would 
only sell his condos to other English Canadians. He wouldn't stand a chance. 
Why do we not extend the same rights to English Canadians as we do to 
immigrants?

-- 
Darren C.              
Dust as we are, the immortal spirit grows
Like harmony in music: There is a dark, inscrutable workmanship,
That binds discordant elements; makes them cling together
In one society.



From markz@io.org Thu Feb 22 13:11:49 PST 1996
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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: East Asian Experience
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[ Article crossposted from soc.culture.canada,tor.general,bc.general,can.general,can.politics,ab.general,can.community.asian,alt.discrimination,alt.politics.nationalism.black,alt.politics.nationalism.white,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.caribbean ]
[ Author was GREGS ]
[ Posted on 17 Feb 1996 22:34:32 GMT ]


[crossposted from soc.culture.asian-american]
[author was lawfam@california.com (Vincent Law)]


** From: lawfam@california.com (Vincent Law)
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** Date: Tue, 06 Feb 96 02:34:04 GMT
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** 
** In article <4eq5dt$dmt@tst.hk.super.net>,
** 
** >
** >I agree with you to a good extent.  I have lived in Hong Kong for most of 
** >my life, and being of Indian origin, I have often faced blatant 
** >discrimination by the Hong Kong Chinese.  The Chinese in Hong Kong have a 
** >term called "Mo Lo Cha" which is the equivalent of "Nigger" for Blacks.  
** >Many Chinese still use this term openly and in front of our faces!  And 
** >this is in 1996!  
** >I can imagine what Blacks must have felt like 50 years ago.  Most Chinese 
** >in Hong Kong have been poor and uneducated until the last 20-25 years or 
** >so.  I guess that's why their society is not enlightened to the extent 
** >that the United States is.  There is no law to protect us from 
** >discrimination.  In the United States I have had similar experiences with 
** >the Chinese and some Koreans.  However, Filipinos are perhaps the 
** 
** I agree with your point. I'm Chinese and am born and raised in the United 
** States. However I've visited Hong Kong several times to visit relatives and 
** know a lot about attitudes among Hong Kong Chinese from my family.
** 
** I think the biggest thing is that many South Asians and most Filipinos in HK 
** have traditionally had serving roles in society. Even today, many Filipinos 
** are domestic servants. Several of my relatives have filipino housekeepers. 
** Also in many HK movies, Indians are stereotyped as guards or in other
similar 
** positions. I know less about this aspect, but I'm guessing this dates from 
** India's colonial days. (If I'm wrong please correct me).
** 
** Also China has had a tradition of being extremely self-centered. "Zhong Guo" 
** which is the Chinese name for China, means "middle Kingdom." Chinese
pride led 
** to there unpreparedness for Imperialism, which is most exemplified by the 
** Opium War with Great Britain. Racist attitudes are still prevalent among 
** Chinese who grew up in Asia. Hopefully this will change as the globalization 
** of society develops.
** 
** 
** 
** -----------------------------------------------------------------------
** Vincent Law
** http://pages.prodigy.com/CA/vlaw/vlaw.html
** Class of 1996
** -----------------------------------------------------------------------

-- 
gregs

SEMPER FIDELIS
     The Canadian Constitution
     "Void Where Prohibited By Law"


From markz@io.org Thu Feb 22 13:38:35 PST 1996
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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: The Europian conquest why is everybody so screwed up!?
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[ Article crossposted from tor.general,ont.general,van.general,bc.general,soc.culture.canada,can.general,alt.politics.immigration ]
[ Author was Ilias Kotsovolos ]
[ Posted on Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:59:04 -0500 ]

Caprina ,, , wrote:
> 
> Now look! I didn't do you any harm, and I wouldn't anyway. I do not
> approve of, in fact, I condemn the actions of the conquerins you are
> referring to. It's wrong and IMO there is *no* excuse for any kind of barbarism
> on the part of anyone, no matter what their culture, race etc.
>     All my life, I've heard all about the evils of the white people, I am
> well aware what they did, and frankly, it makes me sick!! 

You have been brainwashed in political correctness. Territorial conflicts, wars and conquests
have been going on since the recorded history, and not by "white people" until relatively
recently. Ancient Greeks, Romans, Egyptians etc. have all at one time conquered and butchered.
I'm not too familiar with N.A. Indian history, but I'm sure there were tribal conflicts about
land here as well.
You're falling into a guilt trip that we have been put to the last few years by certain 
minorities and politicians. I'm one of the least violent people, but I'll tell you one thing:
It's unfortunate, but explorations for new lands and resources have been part of the human 
evolution and instinct to better living conditions. The big fish eats the small. Sounds bad,
but that's how it is.
If it wasn't the French and Anglos here, would be the Spanish or Portuguese. You and the natives
better accept the fact that they have been defeated many years ago and lost their land. History
does not turn back. The Roman empire at one time occupied a good chunk of Europe and Middle East. 
I don't hear the Italians now asking for that land back. Life, as rough as it seems Caprina,
goes on.

> What I would
> like to hear more about, is your way of life, aside from the sorry
> reservation situation, which, by the way, I strongly disagree with.
> People should not be sectioned off to live where they are told just
> because of something so ridiculous as skin color or culture. Why can't
> you just live wherever? That makes no sense to me.
> And why should *I* be made to pay for the heinous actions of the whites
> who got their jollies by conquering and brutalizing everyone else!?!!??
> They were morons who thought they were superior because they were a
> certain color and race. What they failed to see was, there is nothing
> wrong with your race, and you can't help being born Indian any more than
> those conquerors could help being born white. That does *not* give
> *anyone* the right to think they're superior to anyone else!

Mental superiority here is irrelevant. The extent to which a civilization can protect itself
>from  outside conquering forces can be inferior.

> I can't help the fact that I happen to be a white person who was born in
> Saskatchewan, and now live in Alberta. That is how my life turned out,
> and I never pushed *anyone* off their land, *AND I WOULDN'T!! I am not
> your enemy. Please don't throw *all* the whites in the same kettle with
> the monsters who caused all this trouble. You mentioned a few other races
> before, Blacks, Hispanics, etc. From what I understand, the white people
> brutalized them as well. But just because I happen to look like one of
> the white monsters on the outside, doesn't mean I'm one of them. I wish
> there was some way to rewrite history and blot out all trace of racism,
> prejudice, brutalization, but there is no way that can be done. The only
> way we can achieve peace in this country is by getting rid of the
> prejudices and treating one another like people instead of property or
> targets for hate. We've just got to stop this hate *now*!!!

You keep making excuses about your race. It's either the heavy brainwash, or you have an
inferiority complex which is worst than hate.
 
Ilias K.


From markz@io.org Thu Feb 22 13:38:36 PST 1996
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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: Chinese racism in Richmond, BC....
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[ Article crossposted from bc.general,ont.general,tor.general,can.general,can.politics,can.community.asian,soc.culture.canada ]
[ Author was Darren Crooks ]
[ Posted on Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:03:39 GMT ]

In article <4fuifm$9o0@news2.cts.com>, pkolding@cts.com (PKolding) says...
>
>cook@mindlink.bc.ca (cook) wrote:
>
>>In article <4foi1g$bj4@ionews.io.org>, bchong@io.org (Bob Chong) wrote:
>
>>> Richard Lee, a landed immigrant living in Hong Kong, has just announced 
the
>>> construction of a new luxury 12 story condominium to be built at 
>>> harbourfront that confirms to all environmental and city zoning bylaws.
>>> 
>>> Think of how many jobs he is creating for his fellow Canadians.
>>> 
>>> Think of how many jobs are created when you multiply this by 200,000!
>
>>Did he even bother to offer them for sale in Canada?  Numerous
>>developments have only been offered for sale in Hong Kong and have been
>>totally sold out to offshore speculators.
>
>Strange how when foreigners buy property they so often, in the minds
>of certain people, are suddenly transformed into "offshore
>speculators". It seems to me people should be allowed to sell their
>property to whom they wish, and upon their own terms.
>
But that's not the point. Suppose Mr. Lee was an English Canadian who would 
only sell his condos to other English Canadians. He wouldn't stand a chance. 
Why do we not extend the same rights to English Canadians as we do to 
immigrants?

-- 
Darren C.              
Dust as we are, the immortal spirit grows
Like harmony in music: There is a dark, inscrutable workmanship,
That binds discordant elements; makes them cling together
In one society.



From markz@io.org Thu Feb 22 13:38:38 PST 1996
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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.politics.white-power
Subject: East Asian Experience
Date: 21 Feb 1996 19:47:35 GMT
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[ Author was GREGS ]
[ Posted on 17 Feb 1996 22:34:32 GMT ]


[crossposted from soc.culture.asian-american]
[author was lawfam@california.com (Vincent Law)]


** From: lawfam@california.com (Vincent Law)
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** In article <4eq5dt$dmt@tst.hk.super.net>,
** 
** >
** >I agree with you to a good extent.  I have lived in Hong Kong for most of 
** >my life, and being of Indian origin, I have often faced blatant 
** >discrimination by the Hong Kong Chinese.  The Chinese in Hong Kong have a 
** >term called "Mo Lo Cha" which is the equivalent of "Nigger" for Blacks.  
** >Many Chinese still use this term openly and in front of our faces!  And 
** >this is in 1996!  
** >I can imagine what Blacks must have felt like 50 years ago.  Most Chinese 
** >in Hong Kong have been poor and uneducated until the last 20-25 years or 
** >so.  I guess that's why their society is not enlightened to the extent 
** >that the United States is.  There is no law to protect us from 
** >discrimination.  In the United States I have had similar experiences with 
** >the Chinese and some Koreans.  However, Filipinos are perhaps the 
** 
** I agree with your point. I'm Chinese and am born and raised in the United 
** States. However I've visited Hong Kong several times to visit relatives and 
** know a lot about attitudes among Hong Kong Chinese from my family.
** 
** I think the biggest thing is that many South Asians and most Filipinos in HK 
** have traditionally had serving roles in society. Even today, many Filipinos 
** are domestic servants. Several of my relatives have filipino housekeepers. 
** Also in many HK movies, Indians are stereotyped as guards or in other
similar 
** positions. I know less about this aspect, but I'm guessing this dates from 
** India's colonial days. (If I'm wrong please correct me).
** 
** Also China has had a tradition of being extremely self-centered. "Zhong Guo" 
** which is the Chinese name for China, means "middle Kingdom." Chinese
pride led 
** to there unpreparedness for Imperialism, which is most exemplified by the 
** Opium War with Great Britain. Racist attitudes are still prevalent among 
** Chinese who grew up in Asia. Hopefully this will change as the globalization 
** of society develops.
** 
** 
** 
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** Vincent Law
** http://pages.prodigy.com/CA/vlaw/vlaw.html
** Class of 1996
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-- 
gregs

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From markz@io.org Fri Feb 23 15:56:49 PST 1996
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Subject: Chinese racism in Richmond, BC....
Date: 23 Feb 1996 18:37:47 GMT
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[ Article crossposted from bc.general,ont.general,tor.general,can.general,can.politics,can.community.asian,soc.culture.canada ]
[ Author was hdhayes@mail.planet.eon.net ]
[ Posted on 22 Feb 1996 04:53:53 GMT ]

I am thrilled to finally have a forum to voice my concerns on this subject.  The 
Southam-Globe and Mail dominated media of the Lower Mainland does not do enough to 
highlight the absolute travesty of justice and immigration policy that occurs on a 
daily basis in Vancouver. These ill-mannered,materialistic and gawdy Hong Kong 
immigrants that invade this region of Canada must be held accountable for their 
destruction of once beautiful, dignified neighbourhoods. The way they attempt to 
drive down Lower Mainland roads in their $120,000 cars makes my skin crawl.  Glen 
Clark may have done the politically correct thing by hollering Happy New Year in 
Cantonese, (a futile attempt at embracing the Chinese vote) but remember he is the 
leader of a soon to be extinct party.  If anyone decides to dismiss this commentary 
as racist, you are nothing but a ignorant pawn in the the Department of 
Multiculturism.



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Subject: Chinese racism in Richmond, BC....
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[ Article crossposted from bc.general,ont.general,tor.general,can.general,can.politics,can.community.asian,soc.culture.canada ]
[ Author was rwvong@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca ]
[ Posted on 23 Feb 1996 00:40:14 GMT ]

hdhayes@mail.planet.eon.net wrote:

: I am thrilled to finally have a forum to voice my concerns on this
: subject.  The Southam-Globe and Mail dominated media of the Lower
: Mainland does not do enough to highlight the absolute travesty of
: justice and immigration policy that occurs on a daily basis in
: Vancouver. These ill-mannered,materialistic and gawdy Hong Kong
: immigrants that invade this region of Canada must be held accountable for
: their destruction of once beautiful, dignified neighbourhoods. The way
: they attempt to drive down Lower Mainland roads in their $120,000 
: cars makes my skin crawl.

So what are you saying, exactly?  Are you saying that these invaders 
should be forced out, because they're destroying neighbourhoods?  And how 
exactly are they destroying neighbourhoods?  Simply by being there, or 
did you have something else in mind?  (Tearing down houses and 
rebuilding, or something?)

Followups directed to soc.culture.canada.

--
Russil Wvong
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada


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[ Author was rwvong@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca ]
[ Posted on 23 Feb 1996 00:40:14 GMT ]

hdhayes@mail.planet.eon.net wrote:

: I am thrilled to finally have a forum to voice my concerns on this
: subject.  The Southam-Globe and Mail dominated media of the Lower
: Mainland does not do enough to highlight the absolute travesty of
: justice and immigration policy that occurs on a daily basis in
: Vancouver. These ill-mannered,materialistic and gawdy Hong Kong
: immigrants that invade this region of Canada must be held accountable for
: their destruction of once beautiful, dignified neighbourhoods. The way
: they attempt to drive down Lower Mainland roads in their $120,000 
: cars makes my skin crawl.

So what are you saying, exactly?  Are you saying that these invaders 
should be forced out, because they're destroying neighbourhoods?  And how 
exactly are they destroying neighbourhoods?  Simply by being there, or 
did you have something else in mind?  (Tearing down houses and 
rebuilding, or something?)

Followups directed to soc.culture.canada.

--
Russil Wvong
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada


From markz@io.org Sun Feb 25 15:18:41 PST 1996
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Subject: White Student In Markham
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[ Article crossposted from tor.general,ont.general,van.general,bc.general,soc.culture.canada,can.general,alt.politics.immigration ]
[ Author was FERIZIS  ALEXANDER A ]
[ Posted on Sat, 24 Feb 1996 01:10:38 GMT ]

 
As a resident of Unionville for seven years now (we are moving next week
to Metro Toronto), I'm surprised and a little bit uncomfortable with the
influx of the Chinese community.

I have friends who are Chinese and they are wonderful people.  Nor do I have
anything against the culture.  However, being of European descent, for me,
the cultural gap is far too great.  There is a horrible 'ghettoization'
going on around here that I know many people in the Chinese community
object to.  The bad thing is the guilt that this type of visibility of
an ethnic group so large (and in local history, so able to invest money
in such large amounts in the local ecoomy) imposes on the so-called
'white' residents of Markham.

For example, I hate myself for often making comments (to myself, of course)
about the stereotypical rudeness, arrogance and isolation of the Chinese
(particularly Hong Kong) community, in particular young people of my age.
I won't even mention how many times it comes up among friends of mine
in the Faculty of Engineering at UofT, where there is a prevalent Asian
student body.

Maintaining your own cultural ideals/customs/etc. as the result of emigrating
to a foreign country is a great thing, particularly in Canada --- it is a 
challenge to balance the so-called 'Canadian' aspects with your own.
However, when gigantic communities such as Unionville/Markham/Richmond Hill
start 'turning Asian', they make it easier for new arrivals to maintain
a little piece of their own country in Toronto, rather than giving them
the responsibility of adjusting to a new lifestyle.  In my opinion, you
appreciate your own cultura far better if you have to make an effort
to maintain it.... it should not come so easily.  For example, my
background is Greek -- and young Greeks in Toronto seem to be more in
touch with their 'Greekness' than the youth in Greece who want to become
more 'Americanized'..... I'm sure the same can apply to the Oriental
community.

Our house was purchased by an Asian family, which came as no surprise.
I do not see that as a bad thing, but it is surprising that more than
one real estate agent we've spoken to has quietly 'admitted' (claimed?)
that real estate values have depreciated around here due to the influx
of Chinese immigrants.  It's something to think about.

My question is, what do we do?  I am an internationally-minded and
open person who loves learning about different cultures.  When one
particular one isolates themselves so much and is not open (many
times seemingly hostile, let alone a friendly 'hi' in passing....) to
sharing their culture with others who might be interested, then I say
that multiculturalism in this country is going seriously wrong.

Just my two bits' worth.

-- Alex
 

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From markz@io.org Sun Feb 25 15:18:42 PST 1996
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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: HORRIFIC SPORTING GOODS STORE ROBBERY IN TORONTO
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(For those who care, he is talking about, Toronto "the good", Ontario, 
Canada)

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[ Author was GREGS ]
[ Posted on 24 Feb 1996 22:12:06 GMT ]


GIOVANNI'S GUNSHOP in business for over 25 years was " HIT " in a
vicious"HOME INVASION" style robbery on Friday 23 Feb.

FIVE or SIX  BLACK MALES  heavily armed with SHOTGUNS and KNIVES burst
into the shop when the owner was opening for business at 9am.
 After BUTT STROKING the owner across the face with a sawed-off shotgun
the FIVE males proceeded to BEAT and STOMP him into submission.
 They then went to the locked gun cases and smashed one open with the butt
of a shotgun,grabbing the largest handgun in the display.
They used this handgun to smash other display cases and filled their 2
knapsacks with guns.
 While making their escape after loading up on choice handguns(they
actually picked SPECIFIC HANDGUNS from the displays)they again dished out
another BEATING to the store owner.
They then jumped into waiting stolen getaway carS (PLURAL)to make good
their escape.
  Unfortunately one of the stolen getaway cars which they had earlier
placed in the parking lot failed to start due to the fact that one of the
robbers had left the headlights on and the battery was dead.
In their haste to escape they dropped one knapsack and balaclava.
 POLICE arrived on the scene within 2 MINUTES of the crime as they were
nearby investigating a horrible stabbing that had just occurred.(NICE
NEIGHBOURHOOD' EH')
Both stolen cars have been recovered and are in police custody awaiting
forensic testing.

Who knows what HORRIFIC crimes are about to be committed by these vicious
thugs now that they have garnered some serious firepower with which to
continue terrorizing our defenseless society! 

The newsmedia REFUSED TO GIVE OUT A DESCRIPTION OF THE THUGS because they
are afraid to tell the truth!

I on the other hand am not afraid and their descriptions follow.

The perpetrators are described as  4 or 5 MALE BLACKS +1 MULATTO in there 20's
All spoke(YELLED) with Jamaican accents


Now I ask anyone who reads this posting, is it to much to ask that when
these guys are caught (and they will be caught,finger prints and DNA) that
after they are CONVICTED and finish their 3 MONTH SENTENCES that we THROW
them the FUCK out of CANADA if they were not born here! We don't need this
KIND of people here and WE don't care if they are black,yellow,brown,pink
polkadot or white!

We have enough of our own homegrown vicious cutthroats that we don't need
to import them from all over the world!

There is no CANADIAN out there that would disagree with my last sentence
and you dumb fucks in government better goddamn wake up to it because we
are sick and tired of this shit going on DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY.

WAKE UP CANADA!

-- 
gregs

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     The Canadian Constitution
     "Void Where Prohibited By Law"


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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: HORRIFIC SPORTING GOODS STORE ROBBERY IN TORONTO
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[ Author was Neil ]
[ Posted on Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:25:43 -0700 ]

On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Ilias Kotsovolos wrote:

> Neil wrote:
> > On 24 Feb 1996, GREGS wrote:
> > > FIVE or SIX  BLACK MALES [snip]
> > 
> > Your motives are obvious.
> 
> And what would those be, for us the less gifted ones?

Since his pointing out their racial background is not in any way going to
help the investiation of this crime, his motive is to scapegoat blacks,
Jamaicans in particular.
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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: HORRIFIC SPORTING GOODS STORE ROBBERY IN TORONTO
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[ Author was Jim Pook ]
[ Posted on 25 Feb 1996 09:17:30 -0800 ]

In article ,
Neil   wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Ilias Kotsovolos wrote:
>
>> Neil wrote:
>> > On 24 Feb 1996, GREGS wrote:
>> > > FIVE or SIX  BLACK MALES [snip]
>> > 
>> > Your motives are obvious.
>> 
>> And what would those be, for us the less gifted ones?
>
>Since his pointing out their racial background is not in any way going to
>help the investiation of this crime, his motive is to scapegoat blacks,
>Jamaicans in particular.
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Are we not getting carried away on this race thing?

The point here people, is that a bunch of thugs robbed and beat up a gun
store owner.

Now the press won't describe the suspects - so what else is new?

So the whole town of Toronto is looking at everyone they know and wondering
if they could be the thugs who robbed the gun store.

Well, now we know that all of the white people, chinese people, japanese
people, black africans, europeans, etc. can now be eliminated from the
search.

Granted, it's a pretty poor description, but you have to go with what you
have available. Sure it would be nice if we all knew that one of the
suspects was 5'1" and had a beard and was about 140 pounds with a blue
jacket - but we don't have that info, so does that mean we can't use the
partial description we do have? Wake up people - these are criminals!


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From: markz@io.org (Mark Zajac)
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Subject: HORRIFIC SPORTING GOODS STORE ROBBERY IN TORONTO
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[ Author was Nwadiuto Odozor ]
[ Posted on Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:09:14 GMT ]

Ilias Kotsovolos  wrote:
>Neil wrote:
>> 
>> On 24 Feb 1996, GREGS wrote:
>> 
>> > FIVE or SIX  BLACK MALES [snip]
>> 
>> Your motives are obvious.
>
>And what would those be, for us the less gifted ones?
>
>Ilias K.


With a name like Kotsovolos, I bet your ancestors were also here
when the first Native American was killed by Greg's "home-grown"
Canadians.

Nwadiuto Odozor




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[ Author was guardius ]
[ Posted on Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:54:04 ]

>>In article Neil neilends@U.Arizona.EDU> writes:

>On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Ilias Kotsovolos wrote:

>> Neil wrote:
>> > On 24 Feb 1996, GREGS wrote:
>> > > FIVE or SIX  BLACK MALES [snip]
>> > 
>> > Your motives are obvious.
>> 
>> And what would those be, for us the less gifted ones?

>Since his pointing out their racial background is not in any way going to
>help the investiation of this crime,

Have you lost your mine,Mr Singh!

If Five WHITE MALES,with POLISH Accents did the robbery, That WOULD help 
reduce the scope of the police investigation,narrow their focus, and assist 
them in THEIR very demanding job.

To say that the DISCRIPTION of the felons has nothing to do with the
investigation,or will not HELP is utter stupidity. It is not a question
of "racial" background, it is a question of finding the people who
did the crime. Discription of the felons is VERY important. I beleive
they would call me a Caucasin(WHITE),it is not meant to be insulting,
just CLARIFYING!!!!

It has NOTHING to do with RACISM!!!



 his motive is to scapegoat blacks,
>Jamaicans in particular.
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>                   |Tucson, Arizona, U.S.A.       <__ __>   |
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[ Author was Neil ]
[ Posted on Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:25:43 -0700 ]

On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Ilias Kotsovolos wrote:

> Neil wrote:
> > On 24 Feb 1996, GREGS wrote:
> > > FIVE or SIX  BLACK MALES [snip]
> > 
> > Your motives are obvious.
> 
> And what would those be, for us the less gifted ones?

Since his pointing out their racial background is not in any way going to
help the investiation of this crime, his motive is to scapegoat blacks,
Jamaicans in particular.
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Subject: HORRIFIC SPORTING GOODS STORE ROBBERY IN TORONTO
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[ Author was Jim Pook ]
[ Posted on 25 Feb 1996 09:17:30 -0800 ]

In article ,
Neil   wrote:
>On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Ilias Kotsovolos wrote:
>
>> Neil wrote:
>> > On 24 Feb 1996, GREGS wrote:
>> > > FIVE or SIX  BLACK MALES [snip]
>> > 
>> > Your motives are obvious.
>> 
>> And what would those be, for us the less gifted ones?
>
>Since his pointing out their racial background is not in any way going to
>help the investiation of this crime, his motive is to scapegoat blacks,
>Jamaicans in particular.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Are we not getting carried away on this race thing?

The point here people, is that a bunch of thugs robbed and beat up a gun
store owner.

Now the press won't describe the suspects - so what else is new?

So the whole town of Toronto is looking at everyone they know and wondering
if they could be the thugs who robbed the gun store.

Well, now we know that all of the white people, chinese people, japanese
people, black africans, europeans, etc. can now be eliminated from the
search.

Granted, it's a pretty poor description, but you have to go with what you
have available. Sure it would be nice if we all knew that one of the
suspects was 5'1" and had a beard and was about 140 pounds with a blue
jacket - but we don't have that info, so does that mean we can't use the
partial description we do have? Wake up people - these are criminals!


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[ Author was Nwadiuto Odozor ]
[ Posted on Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:09:14 GMT ]

Ilias Kotsovolos  wrote:
>Neil wrote:
>> 
>> On 24 Feb 1996, GREGS wrote:
>> 
>> > FIVE or SIX  BLACK MALES [snip]
>> 
>> Your motives are obvious.
>
>And what would those be, for us the less gifted ones?
>
>Ilias K.


With a name like Kotsovolos, I bet your ancestors were also here
when the first Native American was killed by Greg's "home-grown"
Canadians.

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[ Author was guardius ]
[ Posted on Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:54:04 ]

>>In article Neil neilends@U.Arizona.EDU> writes:

>On Sat, 24 Feb 1996, Ilias Kotsovolos wrote:

>> Neil wrote:
>> > On 24 Feb 1996, GREGS wrote:
>> > > FIVE or SIX  BLACK MALES [snip]
>> > 
>> > Your motives are obvious.
>> 
>> And what would those be, for us the less gifted ones?

>Since his pointing out their racial background is not in any way going to
>help the investiation of this crime,

Have you lost your mine,Mr Singh!

If Five WHITE MALES,with POLISH Accents did the robbery, That WOULD help 
reduce the scope of the police investigation,narrow their focus, and assist 
them in THEIR very demanding job.

To say that the DISCRIPTION of the felons has nothing to do with the
investigation,or will not HELP is utter stupidity. It is not a question
of "racial" background, it is a question of finding the people who
did the crime. Discription of the felons is VERY important. I beleive
they would call me a Caucasin(WHITE),it is not meant to be insulting,
just CLARIFYING!!!!

It has NOTHING to do with RACISM!!!



 his motive is to scapegoat blacks,
>Jamaicans in particular.
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>                   |University of Arizona,       <^\| |/^>  |
>                   |Tucson, Arizona, U.S.A.       <__ __>   |
>                   |http://u.arizona.edu/~neilends   |      |
>                   |________________________________________|




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[ Author was Bob Chong ]
[ Posted on 27 Feb 1996 04:38:56 GMT ]


You can't have mandatory screening for Hepatitis.  That would be just 
like having mandatory screening for AID, something that is banned because 
it would just lead to discrimination against those who had it and would be
used as an excuse by racists for committing hate crimes.

It is also a invasion of their privacy.  Only a fascist would want such a 
thing.

There is no screening for AID and there shouldn't be any for Hepatisis.





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And what about the great "INVESTOR IMMIGRATION" we ended up with named Li 
Chow Ping?  It seems she was investing in Crystal Methampetamine futures.
After being here for a couple of years she was finally caught and Canada's
largest distributor of this form of Speed has been shut down!

Just because a small proportion immigrants are "Investor Immigrants" who 
bring money with them does justify the other 97% of immigrants let in 
every year, and what proof has anybody provided that even attempts at 
proving that "Investors" are even benefitting Canada and not trying to 
profit at the expense of Canadians and destroy Canada like Ms. Li Chow Ping?




Author was Bob Chong wrote:

: Richard Lee, a landed immigrant living in Hong Kong, has just announced the
: construction of a new luxury 12 story condominium to be built at 
: harbourfront that confirms to all environmental and city zoning bylaws.
:
: Think of how many jobs he is creating for his fellow Canadians.
: 
: Think of how many jobs are created when you multiply this by 200,000!


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And what about the great "INVESTOR IMMIGRATION" we ended up with named Li 
Chow Ping?  It seems she was investing in Crystal Methampetamine futures.
After being here for a couple of years she was finally caught and Canada's
largest distributor of this form of Speed has been shut down!

Just because a small proportion immigrants are "Investor Immigrants" who 
bring money with them does justify the other 97% of immigrants let in 
every year, and what proof has anybody provided that even attempts at 
proving that "Investors" are even benefitting Canada and not trying to 
profit at the expense of Canadians and destroy Canada like Ms. Li Chow Ping?




Author was Bob Chong wrote:

: Richard Lee, a landed immigrant living in Hong Kong, has just announced the
: construction of a new luxury 12 story condominium to be built at 
: harbourfront that confirms to all environmental and city zoning bylaws.
:
: Think of how many jobs he is creating for his fellow Canadians.
: 
: Think of how many jobs are created when you multiply this by 200,000!


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[ Author was hunter ]
[ Posted on 28 Feb 1996 07:07:32 GMT ]

In article <4gu1t0$rbu@news1.io.org>, bbchong@io.org (Bob Chong) says:
>
>
>You can't have mandatory screening for Hepatitis.  That would be just 
>like having mandatory screening for AID, something that is banned because 
>it would just lead to discrimination against those who had it and would be
>used as an excuse by racists for committing hate crimes.
>
>It is also a invasion of their privacy.  Only a fascist would want such a 
>thing.
>
>There is no screening for AID and there shouldn't be any for Hepatisis.
>
>
>
Pherhaps there should be a screening for aids as well.

************************************************************ 
 
"The root of the problem is rampant crime, and fear of it.  
Liberals never get to the root.  They will go for the easy 
answer - the symbolic gesture - every time.  It's easier to 
take guns away from law-abiding citizens than from criminals 
so that's what they will do.  What would rigid gun-control 
measures do toward solving the root problem? Exacerbate it"
					
					Rush Limbaugh
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[ Author was Joe Lockhart ]
[ Posted on Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:59:45 GMT ]

From: bbchong@io.org (Bob Chong)
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>You can't have mandatory screening for Hepatitis.  That would be just 
>like having mandatory screening for AID, something that is banned because 
>it would just lead to discrimination against those who had it and would be
>used as an excuse by racists for committing hate crimes.

>It is also a invasion of their privacy.  Only a fascist would want such a 
>thing.
>There is no screening for AID and there shouldn't be any for Hepatisis.


After I stopped puking, I had to respond to this utter nonsense
spewed by Mr.Chong

You must ask yourself this basic question: Who has more rights
the majority or the minority? Canada is a so-called democracy right? 
if this is so, why is it the minorities have all the rights?

What Mr.Chong is admitting to is if we had mandatory screening,
you would find an overwhelming amount of minorities with Hepatitis,
AIDS and one he never mentioned Tuberculous. So, what should
we do? Stick our head in the sand and hope it will go away?
Or do we pass laws to protect people with contagious disseise? 

Let me use this example: 
Let say  you live in a small northern town and a forest-
fire breaks-out 20 Kilometres from town. What do you do?
Do you pass laws to protect the forest fire? Do you round up
all the people in the town to educate them that forest fires are really OK
and to be scared of it means you have a mental problem! 
Do we give government money by the millions to develop programs to
teach people that the forest fire is the fault of all the "racist"
people and all the Fireophobic people are really the one who
should be dealt with? 
Or do we pass new "hate" law to stop people from yelling at the
sight of smoke "FIRE," because you don't want to expose fire to any
contempt or scone do you??

In real life what happens what a Forest fire breaks out?
Every able-bodied man gets off his ass, goes into the forest
and STOMPS OUT THE FIRE!!!

Get the point....


The European Christian Defence League
P.O. Box 345 Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
R3C 2H6 (204) 775-0878 Fax (204) 774-4817

"Exposing the forest fires in Canada."
 


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[ Author was hunter ]
[ Posted on 28 Feb 1996 07:07:32 GMT ]

In article <4gu1t0$rbu@news1.io.org>, bbchong@io.org (Bob Chong) says:
>
>
>You can't have mandatory screening for Hepatitis.  That would be just 
>like having mandatory screening for AID, something that is banned because 
>it would just lead to discrimination against those who had it and would be
>used as an excuse by racists for committing hate crimes.
>
>It is also a invasion of their privacy.  Only a fascist would want such a 
>thing.
>
>There is no screening for AID and there shouldn't be any for Hepatisis.
>
>
>
Pherhaps there should be a screening for aids as well.

************************************************************ 
 
"The root of the problem is rampant crime, and fear of it.  
Liberals never get to the root.  They will go for the easy 
answer - the symbolic gesture - every time.  It's easier to 
take guns away from law-abiding citizens than from criminals 
so that's what they will do.  What would rigid gun-control 
measures do toward solving the root problem? Exacerbate it"
					
					Rush Limbaugh
************************************************************* 


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Subject: Canadian Hepatitis B Upsurge due to Immigration
Date: 28 Feb 1996 20:31:50 GMT
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[ Article crossposted from soc.culture.canada,can.politics,can.general,bc.general,ont.general,qc.general,alt.politics.immigration,can.gov.general ]
[ Author was Joe Lockhart ]
[ Posted on Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:59:45 GMT ]

From: bbchong@io.org (Bob Chong)
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Subject: Canadian Hepatitis B Upsurge due to Immigration
Date: 27 Feb 1996 04:38:56 GMT
Organization: Internex Online (io.org), Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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>You can't have mandatory screening for Hepatitis.  That would be just 
>like having mandatory screening for AID, something that is banned because 
>it would just lead to discrimination against those who had it and would be
>used as an excuse by racists for committing hate crimes.

>It is also a invasion of their privacy.  Only a fascist would want such a 
>thing.
>There is no screening for AID and there shouldn't be any for Hepatisis.


After I stopped puking, I had to respond to this utter nonsense
spewed by Mr.Chong

You must ask yourself this basic question: Who has more rights
the majority or the minority? Canada is a so-called democracy right? 
if this is so, why is it the minorities have all the rights?

What Mr.Chong is admitting to is if we had mandatory screening,
you would find an overwhelming amount of minorities with Hepatitis,
AIDS and one he never mentioned Tuberculous. So, what should
we do? Stick our head in the sand and hope it will go away?
Or do we pass laws to protect people with contagious disseise? 

Let me use this example: 
Let say  you live in a small northern town and a forest-
fire breaks-out 20 Kilometres from town. What do you do?
Do you pass laws to protect the forest fire? Do you round up
all the people in the town to educate them that forest fires are really OK
and to be scared of it means you have a mental problem! 
Do we give government money by the millions to develop programs to
teach people that the forest fire is the fault of all the "racist"
people and all the Fireophobic people are really the one who
should be dealt with? 
Or do we pass new "hate" law to stop people from yelling at the
sight of smoke "FIRE," because you don't want to expose fire to any
contempt or scone do you??

In real life what happens what a Forest fire breaks out?
Every able-bodied man gets off his ass, goes into the forest
and STOMPS OUT THE FIRE!!!

Get the point....


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