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From hill@crl.com Thu Nov  2 06:36:04 PST 1995
Article: 19303 of alt.conspiracy
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From: hill@crl.com (Evelyn Hill)
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Hap Freiberg (hap@scubed.com) wrote:
:    but you (Italian-Americans) did not come from centuries
:    of descrimination (and worse) in the "Old Country" only to find
:    the same people with the same mind-set waiting for you in the
:    new country.

Thank you, Hap.  I was waiting for that.  What took you so long?


From hill@crl.com Thu Nov  2 07:20:11 PST 1995
Article: 218147 of talk.politics.guns
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From: hill@crl.com (Evelyn Hill)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Jew Gun-Grabbers in Congress
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Jonathan Haas (jhaas@Primenet.Com) wrote:
: Brilliant observation. You conveniently clipped out the part of my post
: where I quoted Carl Marks as saying:

My clipping did't alter the presentation of the basic ideas involved.  It 
was just done to make the post shorter.  Anyone reading the thread is 
free to read *all* of your post - and has probably already done so.

You still seem to be saying that because Jews are not uniform in their 
opinions they shouldn't be regarded as a group.  By this standard,  
Republicans can't be regarded as a group, farmers can't be regarded as a 
group, Blacks can't be regarded as a group, etc.  No group of people is 
identical, but to throw out the concept of 'group' because of this would 
be absurd.


From hill@crl.com Thu Nov  2 07:20:13 PST 1995
Article: 218512 of talk.politics.guns
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From: hill@crl.com (Evelyn Hill)
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Carl Marks (an331423@anon.penet.fi) wrote:
: Go take a look at alt.politics.nationalism.white, JS.

This newsgroup would be even more suitable for Chris Morton!  Really, 
Chris, it's almost nothing except screaming and obscenities by 
'anti-Racists'! 

You'll think you're in heaven!!!


From hill@crl.com Fri Nov  3 07:24:52 PST 1995
Article: 6132 of alt.politics.nationalism.white
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From: hill@crl.com (Evelyn Hill)
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Subject: Everyone Is An Individual (long)
Date: 2 Nov 1995 23:54:05 -0800
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There is a general feeling among thoughtful people that 
everyone ought to be judged as an individual, that it is not 
quite intellectually or morally respectable to condemn a 
whole race or a whole nation or all the members of a 
religious or ethnic group.  Common sense tells us that since 
each individual is different from every other, not everyone in 
a large group can be equally bad or equally guilty, no matter 
how bad or guilty some of them are.

This feeling seems to be stronger among people at the 
conservative end of the political spectrum than among the 
Politically Correct.  The Politically Correct person knows 
that there are some groups which are inherently good - 
homosexuals, Jews, Blacks - and never should be spoken of 
disparagingly, either individually or collectively, while the 
conservative feels that no one should be above criticism, just 
as no one should be condemned just because he belongs to a 
certain group.  Thus, even the conservative who feels 
uncomfortable in the company of Blacks, and is honest enough 
to admit this to himself, frequently will balk at coming to 
any conclusion about Blacks as a whole.  He knows that not 
all Blacks are rowdy and throw their garbage out the window.  
He knows that there are some Whites who would make more 
unpleasant neighbors than most Blacks.

He applies the same consideration to other groups, including 
Jews.  No matter how much damage some Jews do, there are 
others who are inoffensive, even some who are admirable.  He 
regards anti-Semitism - that is, a general dislike and 
condemnation of Jews - as intellectually and morally 
indefensible.  (Here we are not concerned with the fact that 
Semites and Jews are by no means identical classes, but are 
using the term "anti-Semitism" to mean "anti-Jewism".)  
Even Friedrich Nietzsche, a man who was not only thoughtful 
but also had a profound understanding of the Jews and their 
role in the world, expressed his distaste for the vulgar, 
know-nothing anti-Semitism he observed in 19th-century 
Europe - much as we sometimes winced at the more vulgar 
forms of nigger-baiting we saw in America as late as the 
1960's.

Nietzsche sneered at the superstitious ignoramuses who 
hated Jews because they were "Christ killers" - as if 
organizing the crucifixion of Jesus was the worst thing they 
had done!  We felt embarrassed when we saw a mod of 
rednecks screaming obscenities at a few Blacks sitting 
quietly at a "Whites only" lunch counter, waiting in vain to be 
served.  The behavior of the Blacks was more dignified than 
that of their White "superiors."

Always we were determined to be *fair*, to be charitable 
and hospitable, especially to strangers.  There is something 
deep inside us which makes us admire fairness and despise 
meanness of spirit.  And we always have taken pride in our 
ability to reason, to rise above superstition and prejudice and 
judge each situation on the evidence.

Now this reasonableness and fairmindedness has brought us 
to the edge of extinction.  In Europe we shared Nietsche's 
disdain for the Christian anti-Semitism which had limited 
the Jews' role there for centuries - without sharing his deep 
understanding of the essential destructiveness of the Jews - 
and so we let them out of their ghetto, we allowed them to 
become citizens, we turned a blind eye to their economic and 
political activities.  Tens of millions of Russians, Poles, 
Ukrainians, Germans, Croats, Frenchmen, Hungarians, and 
others - usually the cream of their nations- paid the price 
for that bit of fairmindedness and reasonableness with their 
lives, blood sacrifices to Jewish Bolshevism.

In America we rose above the social snobbery which kept 
Jews out of our country clubs and better hotels, and we 
admired them for their cleverness with words and their 
shrewdness in business.  We let them into our universities.  
We permitted them to practice law and to run for public 
office.  We failed to become alarmed when they took over the 
infant film industry in Hollywood and began buying control of 
our newspapers and magazines.  Now they have us by the 
throat, and we can contemplate the ruins of our civilization 
all around us as their television blares mockingly at us day 
and night.

When we decided that the instinctive, unthinking xenophobia 
we are born with was too primitive, was unworthy of 
civilized people, we disabled the defense Nature gave us 
against racial mixing and against the Jew.

Consider how much brighter our future would be now if the 
superstitious rabble who hated Jews - all Jews - for killing 
their Savior and who believed Jews poisoned wells and 
sacrificed Christian children to obtain blood for their matzos 
had prevailed over the intellectuals who insisted that Jews 
were not all alike and that they should be judged as 
individuals.

Consider how much more civilized America's cities would be 
today if the rednecks who tried to keep Blacks "in their 
place" back in the 1950's and 1960's had prevailed over the 
more sophisticated Whites who were embarrassed by the rude 
behavior of the former.

Evolution is a dangerous thing.  When we were at one with the 
rest of the animal kingdom and let our instincts make all our 
decisions for us, we were safe from certain dangers that 
Mother Nature had learned over the eons how to respond to.  
But it was our destiny to rise above our brother the wolf and 
our sister the lioness, to gaze upon horizons unknown and 
unknowable to our fellow apes, to go into places where none 
but our own kind dared to go.  In order to do that we 
sometimes had to contradict the voice of our instinct:  we 
had to venture beyond familiar surroundings, even when our 
instinct told us to return to the safety of our cave.  We had to 
try new ways of doing things, even when our ancestors had 
been doing them in the old ways for a million years.  And we 
often made mistakes, very dangerous mistakes.

Friedrich Nietzsche told us, "Man is a rope stretched between 
the animal and the Superman:  a rope across an abyss - a 
dangerous going across, a dangerous wayfaring, a dangerous 
looking back, a dangerous shuddering and staying still."

And so we are.  We *must* use our reason, that jewel beyond 
compare, if we are to continue our going across, but we 
should not abandon our instincts until we are *quite* certain 
that we have a better way.  Our reason told us that Jews are 
not all alike, and so we ignored our instinct, which told us 
that Jews - all Jews - are alien beings and must not be 
trusted.

The rope shudders.  The abyss yawns.  The danger never has 
been greater.
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From hill@crl.com Fri Nov  3 07:36:21 PST 1995
Article: 19466 of alt.conspiracy
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From: hill@crl.com (Evelyn Hill)
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Subject: !!! We're Back !!!
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The National Alliance/ National Vanguard Books web site is 
back on line!  We are one of the oldest and best White 
Nationalist groups in the U.S.

We did not engage in the recent spamming of the article, 
"The Long March," nor do we condone it.  Our goal is to reach  
White people concerned with their future - not everyone on 
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From hill@crl.com Sun Nov  5 10:35:57 PST 1995
Article: 13661 of alt.revisionism
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The National Alliance/ National Vanguard Books web site is 
back on line!  We are one of the oldest and best White 
Nationalist groups in the U.S.

We did not engage in the recent spamming of the article, 
"The Long March," nor do we condone it.  Our goal is to reach  
White people concerned with their future - not everyone on 
the planet with an e-mail address.

No group of people can hope to control their destiny unless 
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people and knowledge.  Come see what we have to say.
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From hill@crl.com Sun Nov  5 11:32:58 PST 1995
Article: 15261 of can.politics
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Terry Johnson (ar3@ccinet.ab.ca) wrote:
: One is of antibiotic resistant TB, largely fueled by the breakdown of 
: public health care in the US and the AIDS epidemic. 

The resistant strains of TB *did not* originate in the US or Canada.  Most 
originated in Asia were antibiotics are easy to obtain (if you have money) 
and are often misused.  

Some foregin doctors engage in similar practices here.  I know of an 
anesthesiologist  in Virginia who is constantly prescribing antibiotics 
for brothers-in-law, cousins, friends of cousins, etc., here in 
California.    Not only is it out of his area of practice, he has never 
meet some of these people!  When I asked him why he did this, he responded, 
"it keeps the family happy".

: TB itself is a disease of poverty. Its victims are typically malnourished and 
: poorly housed. 

I work in an upper middle class neighborhood.  (Still  minority White, 
however.)  The people I see with TB are neither malnourished nor poorly 
housed.  They have simply been exposed to people with TB.   Most are 
immigrants from countries where TB is common.  An increasing number are 
middle-class, native born Americans who work with immigrants.

Crowded conditions certainly help TB to spread.  But it still has to be 
introduced before it can spread.  And is immigration making our cities 
more or less crowded?

: An effective anti-TB campaign would include, among other 
: measures: increased spending on basic public health services; construction 
: of better and more affordable housing for the urban poor; and programs to 
: raise public assistance or provide better-paying jobs to the homeless and 
: those on the dole.

Where I work now, most people ar (but not all!) do take their TB medications 
properly.

Where I used to work, almost no one took their TB medications properly.  
It was a poorer area, but the main factor wasn't money.  Virtually 
everyone got their prescriptions free because they were on MediCal.  The 
main factor was that people just didn't have the discipline and drive 
to complete their therapy.  When they started to feel better it became 
too much of a bother to take their medications.  Coaxing, pleading and 
telling horror stories would only have a *temporary* effect.

Literally, the only program that would be successful would be one where 
someone followed each person around seeing that he or she took his or her  
meds properly.  If someone won't care for himself, there isn't a lot 
others can do for him.  It might be nice to think that if everyone had 
more money everyone would be a better, more concerned individual.  But 
this is a pipe dream.


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From: hill@crl.com (Evelyn Hill)
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We did not engage in the recent spamming of the article, 
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White people concerned with their future - not everyone on 
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Subject: !!! We're Back !!!
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The National Alliance/ National Vanguard Books web site is 
back on line!  We are one of the oldest and best White 
Nationalist groups in the U.S.

We did not engage in the recent spamming of the article, 
"The Long March," nor do we condone it.  Our goal is to reach  
White people concerned with their future - not everyone on 
the planet with an e-mail address.

No group of people can hope to control their destiny unless 
they posses two essential things:  the will to survive as a 
people and knowledge.  Come see what we have to say.
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	http://www.natvan.com

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